20 Burst results for "Pat Mcgrath"
Fat Mascara
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Fat Mascara
"Deep sigh as I delve deeper into that. But the sober skin movement. Oh, I thought you were going to say. Watch this space, guys. I guarantee you'll be hearing it soon. You were skin cycling, soon you will be sober skinning. I thought you were going to say that it's just like don't drink, don't drink, don't drug. You don't drink your skin's gonna look way better, guys. That's just science. High glycemic sugar load definitely cause micro inflammation in the skin, et cetera, et cetera. But I think that the premise of this book is that other things cause that kind of inflammation, including ingredients that we put on our face and like the skin works pretty well on its own. But of course we had to wrap it all up in a really cool name. Otherwise, people wouldn't want to do it. Sober skin. So I'll do my research. I wasn't ready to talk about it yet because I haven't looked into it thoroughly, but since it came up, there you go. Okay. All right, last. Got Madonna has been on my mind so much lately. I don't know what it is. I mean, I think about Madonna kind of often, but I don't know why she's copping up coming up so much. You'll be hearing a little bit more about Madonna and Friday interview. She was the butt of a lot of jokes in the past couple of weeks. Her Grammys appearance got a lot of criticism, people saw her face. I mean, we've seen her face over the past few years and people have been saying what's happened. She's looked the same. It was really full. And there were all these think pieces. People going on TV, talking about it, and then Madonna even came back and she said, hey, there was a really bad camera angle on me. But she is not one to let the media have the last word. She just shared a snapshot of herself like a selfie on her Instagram. She's wearing a black jacket. She's wearing this hat, says spiritually hungry. And then she said, look how cute I am. Now that the swelling from the surgery has gone down. LOL. She looks a little bit less puffy. Look how cute I am in this image that I controlled and edited to my liking. Yes, it's my response to that. And listen, you do you. I'm fine. I just think it's ridiculous that we all care so much, and but then it made me feel like, oh, maybe it got to Madonna for once. The fact that she felt she had to come back and show us her real self in that way. The cycle. She had surgery. It's great. It's like, she's not trying to tell us that that was natural, you know? So that's cool too. And I appreciate anyone that's honest about their plastic surgery. And round and round we go. We talk about the her braids, though, and the red hair. I'm not as convinced on that. The base, I don't know, it's a look right now. It's her current moment. So we love you, Madonna. You wanna come on the show and talk about your face. I am here for it, get in line right behind pat McGrath, and behind. I mean, I chew on here. I don't know. If it was like Madonna or pat McGrath, I just, I mean, we met pat and talked to her, I guess I'd have to say Madonna
Fat Mascara
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Fat Mascara
"Color my eyebrows with a warm brown powder, and that makes it look cohesive. Wait, when you say color with the powder, you're talking about like temporary like I just filled them in with powder. Not dying. Yeah, my makeup tends to be more on the warmer side. Okay, but what about dying wise? Like, what if someone wants to die their eyebrow hairs? Yeah, I will stick with a tone, but I typically will always be brow unless they specifically be like, I want them to be blond, or I want them to be orange. Then I will, but other than that, I'm making them shades of brown. And I do think that the whole bleaching eyebrow trend should die. And I will stand on that mountain. So if anyone wants to talk about that with me, I'm here for it, but I think that trend should okay, but even if no way. Will you admit, even if it's not maybe flattering, it could look very cool. Yeah. It does look cool. I mean, listen, in an editorial photo, I don't think any of our listeners are out there bleaching their eyebrows personally. I know there's like a couple celebrities that have done it for like a week and then they immediately change it back or pat McGrath did it to them in the backstage in their model and like other than that. Okay, so most people's brows are in the Brown range. Yes. I am an exception. My brows are going gray. So I'm like Jenna's oldest client, by the way, I think. She's so used to this yet. Not true. Okay, fine. But when someone's brows start to gray, it can really wash them out because you were talking about tone, gray tends to be like this coolish tone. So I personally dye my brows. Like, do you think that that's okay if you're going gray? Oh, yeah. Definitely. That's like dying your hair if you're going gray. And yeah, just sticking to like a similar tone Brown. You don't want them as dark as your hair is typically the rule of thumb. Okay, so same tone, but maybe not saturation wise, because we learned about that earlier. Yes, yes. Not as saturated as your hair color. Yeah, because the hair is different on your eyebrows too. It's not the same hair that is on your head. Definitely finicky. Sometimes it doesn't take color, it's a little bit more coarse or sometimes it's just different. It does different things. Do you have any recommendations for the type of if someone, even if they don't get their hair colored, but they want to dye their brows, because I know people ask you about dying all sorts of hair, which is pretty good. But before we leave, I'm going to have to ask that question that I know you are going to know I'm going to ask. But about the brow hair, is there a formula of dye that the types of dyes that you think are safe for brows? I mean, if it's safe for your head, it's probably safe for the brows to be careful. I would definitely, though, if you're buying it for yourself and not going into a salon, I would definitely just get a brow kit and then just follow instructions. First time you do anything. Just follow instructions. Always, I use the just for men, beard and mustache. There you go. On my brows. I've heard that before. Just going to put it out there. I don't know if you know that about me, but now I'm admitting it. Okay. So people are dying their brows. They're probably telling you about it. You recently had a question, which was actually the impetus for this entire podcast as we come to the end now. Someone came in and wanted to know how to dye their pubic hair. And now, I know you got the giggles, but as a woman who's 40 approaching 45, this does happen. And I'm sure we have listeners out there who realize your pubic hair color changes, some people do not like that change. It fades and or turns gray, what did you tell this client? Okay, first off, this is actually the first time when that client came in that I knew that your pubic hair turns gray. And I know that probably sounds very, I'm like, I don't know, I grew up in the 90s. So maybe my sex Ed class wasn't as thorough as it should be. But I was shook. I was like, I'm sorry, what? Your pubic hair goes what? And Jenna, the first time I noticed it on myself, I was shook. I thought it was soap in the
Fat Mascara
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Fat Mascara
"Well, let's just talk. I'm gonna kick off the news with some fat shun with a capital F, which includes beauty with a big old capital B, the couture shows in Paris. First of all, they always have the best makeup and hair because it's, it goes along with the couture bespoke Ness of it all. You know, these are the shows where this fashion designers can show what they can really do. This isn't fast fashion. This isn't even ready to wear. This is like art. It's art, right? So, of course, Jess and I keep an eye on it because there's always amazing makeup, but OMG this year, the audience was almost as amazing as the runways, agree or disagree. I mean, it was amazing. Was it beautiful? That is what am I talking about? I bet you're thinking of the exact same look I am. Well, we're talking about the runways where we talk about the fro, the front row. I'm talking about Doja Cat at the schiaparelli show. Well, what's interesting to me is like the front row is now part of the show. I feel like it used to just be what is pat McGrath doing for Dior. An example of a makeup artist, yes. Yeah, on the runway, but now the audience is just as much of a part of the whole fiasco part. Yeah. And it happened with fashion first where the designer would be like, okay, here's my runway show, I'm also dressing the front row, which you understood, but now as somebody like pat McGrath, who's usually backstage doing them, she's also doing the front row attendees. And that's what I'm talking about with this Doja Cat look. You've probably seen the picture even if you don't realize what we're talking about. She was covered in red body paint, head to toe, had on a latex hair thing so that she looked bald. And then covered with, I don't know, I was probably somebody counted like a 100,000. Tens and tens of thousands of crystals of crystals. She looked like surreal. She looked like one of like a piece of art come to life. It was amazing. I have a phobia of things like repeated things like holes and dots. I forgot what it's called. I thought I read about it once. I don't like a lot of little things repeating for you. I didn't know that about you. Yeah. Yeah, I really don't like it. So it freaked me out. Also, the fact that it was red. Oh, do you get like a visceral reaction to a really pattern? Yes, exactly. Yeah. So interesting. I didn't love it. I appreciated the craftsmanship, but I don't think you look at that art and think, I love this. I looked at it and thought, would Dante's inferno come to life, which was a thing that was the theme that the designer Daniel roseberry was reaching for with his fashion not even reaching. I think he achieved. But pat McGrath's team freaking brought it, didn't they? Yeah. It's interesting that the attendees are now kind of part of the show. So yeah. I liked it. And in general, I just thought the couture shows were really, I was like, it was reminding me, oh yeah, fashion is art. It's not just buying like a $1000 things and let's talk about who has Louis Vuitton bag. Take it off the walls of a museum and walk it through life and that's what I saw with pat McGrath's work or her team's work. And I appreciate that beauty got a nod. And then I was very excited just on a personal note to see that Courtney Love was back on the scene. Back, giving notable quotables. So many good moments she's back in the front row and Daniel who you interviewed. I'm so sorry. I always mispronounce his last name. Daniel. Yes. The makeup artist. We have worked with pat. He did her look for fashion week and gave her incredible red lip. She just looked like refreshed. You look good, Courtney. I'm rooting for you. Okay, what else do you got? Yes. Oh, Daniel, by the way, if you don't remember who that is, he did Julia Fox's makeup at the tour shows. I think it was last year, so. Yeah. Clearly one of pat's team members in Europe and really delivers all the time. Yeah. Okay, let's back away from the art. Let's get a little sciencey. Have you seen the article? I know you have ozempic face in The New York Times. Yeah, yeah, of course. Let's discuss. First of all, ozempic is a diabetes drug that is being used off label. I'm sure you've heard of this by a lot of people in Hollywood to help them lose weight. There are rumors that people like Mindy Kaling and Kim Kardashian have been using it. We don't know that for sure. However, we do know, and Jess and I interviewed plastic surgeons and we don't run in these circles, but we brought adjacent to these circles in that I, you know, I interview a lot of people all the time who do run in these circles and it was like everywhere. Well, unwanted scientific quite a few people on those Olympic. Do you personally? Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. I have not met anyone that like other than, oh, actually that's a lie. Never mind, I talked to a makeup artist who was on it. All right, we're not going to out people. That's not what this is about, but you know what else them? They're out themselves because when they lose that weight, their face can look very gone. And that's what the article is about. What were your thoughts? I want to give credit to doctor Paul Frank, who's been on the show a couple of times for coining ozempic face. Oh, I thought Amy sennett who wrote the article did. Okay. Doctor Frank. Check you out. Yeah. So he coined this term, and it's really that kind of wasting of the face that happens when you're on ozempic. And that's really the tell for a lot of people he said, you know, people come into his office and they'll say, you know, blah, blah, blah, I think I'm really, I need a more filler than usual or I think I might need more X or Y, basically they look gone and he'll say, okay, how long have you been on those epic? And then he said he's right a 100% of the time. Exactly. 'cause that looked is not natural. You don't naturally get that gone in like three months. At the end of the day, it comes down to what Catherine Deneuve said is what and doctor Frank said, you got to choose between the ass of the face.
Fat Mascara
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Fat Mascara
"I think you need to work on your Julia Fox impression. We're not going to do it again. She goes, we'll do it, by the way, to the TikTok. She goes, because if I see another product that says, anti aging on the label, I'm suing. I'm going to sue because I'm going to age regardless of it if I put the fucking $500 serum on my face. And you all fucking know it. And we know it. So let's stop lying to ourselves. Getting old is fucking hot. It is sexy. What? What do we do to deserve Julie Fox this woman gives and gives to us? She drops them left and right. But then but then I liked it. I was in my last column for the cut. I linked to her story and everything. I love this. Keep going. But then within, did you love this? She also recalled having spent her 27th birthday in bed crying because she was no longer in her mid 20s. She's just being honest. I bet there's a lot of other people who maybe had that feeling. I don't know. I just love how she does not care. She just says what she wants to do. I love that too. Getting older is hot. Two year old super skinny former model. Let's hear it from actually paulina. You know what? I learned so much from last week's interview with paulina. I will take Pauline his take on aging, which with some more stories behind it. But you know what to each his own? Like there's some people that Julie fox is going to resonate and they're like, fuck it, I'm getting older. It's fine. Some people pulling a ports gover will rose resonate. Hopefully some people that aren't models will also say this and will resonate. But yeah, I love it. I love it. I thought you were young until I don't know. I guess it's scares me that the 27 Charlotte now had an Instagram recently about why do we get happy when people say, oh, I never thought you were 35. You look like you're 28 or she said people she thought people thought she was in her 40s and she's only 35 in her response to that was like good then that means I have a lot of authority. I speak with authorities so you think like I'm a more mature woman and it's just like it's just a freaking number, Jess, how old are you? 41. I'm 44. We never even say our age. It has no power. It doesn't mean anything. You can speak to Gen Z culture, you can speak to what's happening in high school. You can speak to like, I feel like it's true. Getting older is hot and like why do we focus on people's ages so much? Because the world is ageist. No, of course. Pauline to talked about this. We need like a footnote commentary to that whole interview because I feel like a lot of the things she was talking about, like our listeners were probably like, oh, I have a thoughts on that too. I love that this is in the zeitgeist right now. But I feel like the ageism is like, I think it's such an ism that isn't talked about enough. I think it's starting to, right? But it feels like the fear is like, I don't know, I feel like what scared me about the Julia Fox one is like, and I think I've talked about it with somebody on the show recently. You're feeling when you heard that was fear? No, no, no, no, the fear. Let me finish what I was saying. The fear that came from her being 27 and being afraid scared me because I was like, I and I know that my experience is not her experience. But I feel like I hear a lot of very young people. We talked about this with so many recently and forgetting, I've never heard so many young people being afraid of aging. And that's where I feel like a lot of the ageism is coming from. It's very young people being afraid of age, not older people. Right. Yeah, 'cause I don't know where that's coming from. About getting older when I was young. Exactly. It's like, you should be like is what's so scary? The time when you don't even have it doesn't even look like it's like when you're a little and you can eat like a million pieces of pizza and it's like it doesn't occur to you. But perhaps because the state of the world, perhaps they think about the future because they see all the problems with culture and they're just like makes them more future thinking than we were then. I don't know what it is or maybe social media and they just see people with wrinkles and they don't want to have wrinkles because they look at their faces all damn day in the phone. I don't know. So many times a day. I'm sick of my face. It's a really interesting topic, but I don't know. The youths will be fine. They're going to each figure it out for themselves. It comes for everybody. If you're lucky, you know. Yeah? So interesting stuff. It is tough. It is. Thank you for that, Jess. All right. Let's go raise some ones, shall we? Let's raise a wand. I feel like we have, we got some, we got some goodies, and Julia Fox does keep giving. I want to end on that note. I do really like her. I list with pat McGrath and Julia Fox. They're both 2023. Resolution. I'm working on it. Kat, maybe cat can connect us with us. Kate marnell's friends with her. Julia, she gets better
Gloss Angeles
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Gloss Angeles
"And the crazy thing about the Taylor Swift effect is that she never used to talk about the makeup she used or really did anything crazy with her makeup, but because pat has been doing this with her for the album launch, we're getting more, which is exciting. And it's a little bit more playful and a little bit more artistic. And so I think like her kicking off the whole midnight thing and then this blue color and I've been seeing it on nails, like my friend folu, who, if y'all don't follow her, please do. She has an amazing newsletter called unsnap able, like literally she's like the best food writer I've ever met in my life. But she's also really into beauty. And she sent me these nails, and she's like, these nails are calling your name. And they were like the velvet midnight blue, like cat eye effect nails. And they had phases of the moon on them. And I'm like, yes. So I'm just seeing a lot more of this navy. It's like winter blue. It's like rich. That and also Brown. Yeah, I was gonna say like the rich warm blues greens, even like brown, but like a copper. Oh, yeah. You know, I mean, that's not unusual for fall winter. But I do think just more bold in that way. Like jewel tones. Yes. Because I think that too, when you're saying black or like a red and gold and silver are like a winter white, it's like these really vibrant jewel tones. I think we're gonna see that on the lips, the eyes, like that pat McGrath palette, mega mothership, there is like a hunter green in that midnight blue in there. So it's very like wintry. And I think like glosses are still going to carry over from summer into fall winter like in the deeper shades or like a clear gloss over like that deep lip that you're wearing or the brown liners aren't going to go anywhere either. I do think that we will see a lot of blush again like warm blush and then like bronzers. Whereas people sort of shied away from that. I think last year. We're going glam. We're going glam for the holidays, guys. All right, that's it.
Fat Mascara
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Fat Mascara
"Actually start cracking in? I mean, you got, you know, what did you do? Tap that girl on the shoulder or a guy on the shoulder and say, I want to do what you do? Yeah, I mean, I literally started DMing absolutely anyone and everyone I had met in a New York City up until that time. Every photographer, every stylist, everyone I met, and I was just like, hey, I'm doing this now. I'm really serious. Yeah, let me know. I was DMing, you know, Mark cut us kiddo, and he replied. And you know, people were very generous with their time, and I mean, I'm sure they kind of could see my hunger, but I was really just going for it through social media. And then one day, you know, dame pat McGrath found me on Instagram. So she found you. You didn't DM her? No, I couldn't dare. Okay, so you're like, I'll DM all these guys. Yeah. But no, no, no, no, no. Leave that one alone. Leave that one. Leave that one alone. Okay, okay. Also, so she DMed you. She DMed me, and I think it was 2000. I forget when it was, but it was like maybe 6 years ago or something, and she DMed me. And it was when she was just launching her makeup brand, and she had gold lust, the zero zero one or something. And I had used it on a makeup look I did on myself, but I wasn't even like a look and she saw it and DMed me and she was like hi darling. I love your work. Can I please get in touch with you and fly you out to LA for a little meeting and we'll put you up in a hotel and get you started and I was just I screenshotted it like 5 times because I was like am I delusional right now? Did you show it to people like just make sure like does this look legit? I really think this was spam. I would think this was a anything. I just couldn't believe it 'cause at that point I hadn't really committed to being a makeup artist and to have someone like her that I obviously I had known of for so long. I mean her years at Dior with galliano defined my youth and so you had like a very big makeup like even though you weren't sorry to interrupt you. Okay, but it's one of like set the stage for a second. So even though you were like because it's kind of making it sound like you weren't like super serious about makeup and you were doing a little of this in a little of that. But you had the makeup, the beauty lexicon. You're talking about pat Dior for galliano. You were I just want to make set the stage that you were like very educated. Yeah, I was very my art history and fashion history is very thorough. And that is what I tell all of my assistants and people on my team. I'm like, be a student of art and culture and fashion and understand it. Be a catalog in your brain. Because it really sets the stage for something that can feel fresh or inventive, perhaps. So I'm going to take you off track. But I just want to get it straight that you were unlocked and all these areas. You were just like, all right, now I'm in. Okay. Yeah, I knew who I was talking to. Yeah. So she says she wants to send you LA, so what happens? So then she flies me out to LA and puts me up in a beautiful hotel. I forget which one. And then we end up. It's me and a couple other makeup artists, and then her at brunch. We met for brunch. I think it was like at Soho house. And all that was for was to just introduce ourselves, meet her. And she just was like, ask me anything you want. Ask me anything you want. And I'm here to answer and kind of support you. And I just couldn't believe how generous she was being by just saying ask me whatever you want. But did you know, didn't you want to be like, well, why am I here? That's the question I'd have. What is this about? Do I have a job? Yeah, I mean, I kind of just assume, yeah, I don't know. I actually didn't even ask myself that. I was just like, I guess what she did mention while we were there that we were going to be going, we're going to be doing the Tommy Hilfiger show later that day, or later that is really cool. And then I had never done a fashion show before. I hadn't even assisted anyone at all. And so how did you make up on anyone but yourself? Or maybe a friend? I had, but I hadn't worked with a fashion model of that scale. Or been in the kind of time urgency, that backstage has. And I was intimidated because I was so fresh. I was like, oh no, I'm literally going to be just thrown into her team and expected to deliver to deliver. Did anybody know this except for you? Like with the other people who you're with, were you like, did you keep the second dead secret? No, I was telling my parents and then I just told my parents because I didn't want to spoil anything. I definitely believe it. No, I mean the other makeup artist at the table. Were you like, yeah, I've never done a fashion show, or you just. Oh, no, I didn't tell anybody. I was just fully pretending I had been doing this because everyone else that was there, I looked at all their profiles and everything, they were already working, amazing makeup artists. And I just was like, wait a minute, what's going on here? How did I fool myself into this? I love this story so much going on. And in detail, spare no detail. Okay. Everybody had their kids and they were just such professional makeup artists and I just had my technique of doing things and I was just like, you know, very, very intimidated and I was just like, you know what? If she has me here, she trusts me to do what I already do. I'm not going to look left. I'm not going to look right. And once we got to the show, I just had my little kit and I started to go to it and the most nerve wracking part was finishing the model. And I think skin is the most important thing is really can you pull off gorgeous skin because she's also known for that as well. And that's what the whole show was basically. It was just beautiful skin. And I brought her to her at the end of when I was done. My model. And she approved and didn't have me change anything. And I was just like, oh shit, okay. And so she approved and you know what? I was very humbled and inspired right after that to take it seriously because I saw everybody that was around me and I knew how amateur at that stage I was, but she saw the vision and the drive and I think she saw me as an artist, which I was already. That must have been so validating.
Fat Mascara
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Fat Mascara
"A fan base, especially through Disney with this brand, like a fan base. There's a Disney vacation like fan website, and they're crying their eyes out. Yeah. No, I know. I was on a tour in Alaska and our group was in the same train as a Disney tour. Well, I was like, I want to be on the Disney tour. That looks fun. They had like the imagineers like hanging out with the kids and teaching them about lasting wild. Disney vacations are like, cool. A big thing for a family. And if it's tied to scent, what a memory. Completely. All right, not to be a bummer, but rest in peace H2O. Yeah, that one really, I was like a half an hour at least reading these reviews. Maybe upset. So just yeah, I nostalgic. It's emotional. This is where we have the podcast. People have an emotional connection to beauty. Okay, so let's move on to something definitely striking a different tone here. Pat McGrath and supreme are joining forces again two years ago. They co branded a lipstick that sold out in seconds, and this time they're dropping a trio of nail polishes in three colors, black, white, and red. So pat McGrath released a statement or pat McGrath labs released a statement that the collection is going to be the first time that the brands either brands have experimented with nail color. It's going to be for sale on supreme's website. But neither brand is saying when. So can't help you there. Yeah. I don't know. Is this going to be like supreme goods like people in a month will be selling it on eBay for like three times as much? Are we doing it? Probably. Now, because supreme is like that, you know? Let's be honest. Every time I see a brand new luxury nail polish, I'm like, I still nail polish. Like that's one of the SKUs that you buy Maybelline or you buy louboutin, both are great, but like there's not a huge difference other than the packaging and the colors. You know what I mean? And you don't walk around with it. It's not like a status thing where you take it out at your and touch up with the lipstick, very good point, because like a lipstick, you can show it off. What are you going to be like? Hold on. Let me just repeat my nails so everybody can see that I have supreme. Yeah, and I was watching and we'll talk about this in a second. Teaser teas are. But Linda evangelista in my bag, the British Vogue video, she opened up her bag and showed what was in it. And she had nail polishes. And I was like, I don't carry my nail polish around. I wondered if that was like just showing things that she likes. Or does she really carry around the nail polish? Like staged a little bit. That's fine. If it's not, she doesn't have a gel. And you need to touch up a chip in your nail polish. Sure, you'd have one color in your bag, but yeah, interesting. Okay. Well, get your supreme while you can. Okay, so the big guys are starting or continuing, depending on your perspective, to pay attention to diversity and sun care. L'oreal just filed a patent for tinted sun care for Fitzpatrick skin types for a deeper Fitzpatrick skin type. So if you don't want the if you don't know what the Fitzpatrick skin type scale is, it's a scale that categorizes different skin tones. So lighter ones are at the lower end lower numeral. I think I'm like a two to three. And I think they go up to 5, yeah. Yeah. L'oreal developed a tinted sunscreen. For has UVA and UVB protection suitable for dark photo types 5 and 6, which is plugging this very important gap. So you might be thinking tinted sunscreens are nothing new. But according to the company, they say, quote, regarding tinted SPFs directed for skin photo types, 5 and 6, the consumers who identify with these prototypes usually notice that the state of the art compositions leave skin looking ashy. The white cast is noticeable in photos, even in broad daylight. This new composition, they say, is sensorially sensorially superior and can attract new customers. So L'oreal. Sensorially superior. So it's very Lori I'll way of saying it. No, it can't, because right now we have some good clear ones, but if you want a little coverage with that mattifying niceness that a tinted sunscreen can do, and you have a deeper skin tone. All right, we'll see what they make with this patent. Yeah, and I think this is only a good thing. This is only good news that larger companies are working on this sort of technology. Okay, tomorrow is September 1st. Let's talk about September British Vogue. I've got to say, this is like the buzziest, most exciting in my opinion, September cover. I was like, Jess, I waited to talk to you. I have so many thoughts. Okay, initial impression. Go. Okay, just let me get specific. Linda evangelista. Sorry guys, obviously you knew that. Linda evangelista, iconic supermodel and former fat mascara guest. That's right. Who's on the cover of she is back in the spot. Yes, before we get into this and I get your opinion, I do think it's interesting that lately all the covers that have been making news have been from British Vogue, not American vote. Just saying, now, what was your initial impression of the images?
Fat Mascara
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Fat Mascara
"Let's get into it. Daniel, welcome to fat mascara hi. Hello. Thank you for having me. Oh my gosh, everyone, this is Daniel's first podcast. So be kind. Be gentle. I can't believe that. I remember when every guest it was their first podcast, but here you are. I hope I'm gentle with you too, and that you like the whole experience. I am such an admirer of your work. I'm so glad you're coming on the show to talk to us about makeup. Tell me everything about you. Where are you from first of all? Thank you for having me. I'm very excited to do this for my first podcast. And thank you to fat mascara for choosing me. I mean, I didn't know that I had so much to say, but probably the last few months have been quite exciting and a lot of things have happened. So just trying to adjust to the new things that are coming along and the new things that will happen. Yeah. So tell me where you're from. Where did you go? I'm originally from Slovenia, which is so funny. I was like, he has Anna delvis accent. Have you seen the anada? Yeah, I have, yeah. It's like, then it's American in there, but there's also some British. Eastern European. Yeah, I was actually born. I was born in Germany. Yes. Yeah, but my parents are originally from Slovenia and this is where I grew up, like most of my life. So I grew up born in Slovenia, grew up in born in Germany, grabbing Slovenia, and then I moved to London. So I've been living in London for a long time so over 20 years. Yeah. And how did you even get into this world of beauty? Did you always want to be a makeup artist? What drew you to this job? I think like I was always obsessed or interested even as a kid in fashion in anything beauty. I don't know as a kid, you know, I used to draw. I used to, I don't know, always admire things, the beauty in anything, in colors, in objects that sort of evoked any sort of I don't know inspirations, so yeah, I used to draw a lot as a kid and then when I was growing up and had to decide what to do for a living, I was deciding between becoming a fashion designer or a florist or a hairdresser or yeah, so there was a lot of options, but it's all more like creative work. So I suppose creativity has always run through my veins. And I chose to become a hairdresser. So I did the hairdressing school and while I was doing this school, I was interested in makeup as well. And actually the biggest sort of dream was to work on fashion shows. Seeing shows from Paris, Milan, New York, that was always a dream. And I thought maybe what better way to maybe try and get into those shows to maybe like to be able to do both. So maybe do hair and makeup. So then I went to did like a makeup course. I went to Germany and I was there for like nearly a year. And yeah, then it became a qualified makeup artist and moved to London. Are you still doing hair? I am. Yeah, sometimes to still do. I think hair sort of like when I do that because I do like more like private clients that I've been having for years. And I feel like that's sort of like grounds me. When you work on these events, fashion, celebrities, wealthy clients, and you sort of live in that world. This is not the real world, as such. And I feel like when I come home and I can do these regular people that have normal jobs and from different books of life, I feel it gives me grounded and kind of makes me sort of appreciate things more what I have, not kind of wanting to have other things, they're not so real. Yeah, you know? So funny. A lot of the times people get very blinded. Nowadays, you know, it's all about like, I don't know, like the celebrity status, the wealth, the fame, and I feel like you know a lot of the times this is not that's not happiness really. And I think sometimes you need to have, you know, like a, I don't know, like you have to check yourself and maybe ground yourself and think, well, you know, there are other people out there who struggle who do other things and people with different stories and I quite like that. I think it just kind of like keeps me more like me, yeah. Some of these private clients that you work with like a professional woman who has like a speaking engagement has you come over to do her hair and makeup before or regular past and it could be you, it could be my next door neighbor. It could be that everybody's hiring hair and makeup every morning before they walk. I know, but still like, I mean, I do like you're not gonna cut hair. Yeah, I can cut your bag in color hair. Like I mean, I'm quite like a multitasking. Yes, of all trades. Yeah, yeah. Like Jack of all trades, like we say in England, yeah. Of course. Well, you alluded to. It's been a busy couple of months, so on top of all these private clients that you have that you do hair and makeup for. You've been getting a lot of editorial credits I see your name more and more and some celebrity clients that you've been working with. It seems like your career is like kind of picked up a little bit as far as that star thing that maybe we don't need all the time, but come on, that's a little fun, right? It is. Yeah, I think it's also to do probably like we're the pandemic. They're being a pandemic and now everything is sort of like reopening and things are happening and people are more happy to go out and there's more events. And yeah, and obviously that one big exposure also, you know, kind of created a domino effect. When you say one big, do you have a pinpoint moment where you're like, this was my one big exposure, 'cause I know what brought me you to my attention, but I'm curious what you think it was. Well, I think it's the fox size. Okay, we're on the same yes. I was like, who did this Paris fashion week look? What is going on? Yeah, I think we need to talk about that. I think this is yeah, this was kind of like the moment that I didn't even know it was going to happen or it was happening. I mean, it was just I did a job. I mean, you know, I went to see a client. It was all very last minute, and I did a look. I mean, you know, it was just, it was just a makeup. Of course, it was like a dramatic makeup. But I've done this makeup before. We've seen this makeup. Many editorials or runways, but it created such drama. I think the moment we should let the listeners know, in case they've been under a rock, during Paris fashion week, Daniel did Julia Fox's makeup for that look with the big bold black smokey eye kind of punk drawn out to the temple. It was like a thick graphic liner. It was like a square. Is she a client, you had worked with before? No, I'm never left behind before. Oh, so you just got hired by like an agent or someone who's like, my girl needs makeup. Yeah, so it was all very, I don't even know how to describe it without saying to many things. But I think it was so we wouldn't Paris. I think before we even touch on this, the proper people should know that I work very closely with pat McGrath, who is the biggest makeup artist in the fashion industry. And we've heard his mother have the mother of makeup. And she is the makeup artist of makeup artists in fashion and in general. And I've been working with her for over ten years. And we were in Paris doing the odd couture shows. We were supposed to we were doing this schiaparelli fashion show. And we had a cool time at 6 a.m. and I woke up at 5 a.m. or something, and then I get his text message from paths PAs saying we have a client for you for skip a rally, you will have to come to this show and then you'll go to the rest of the client by will.
Gloss Angeles
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Gloss Angeles
"I am not seeing a launch date. I'm not seeing a launch date. But people are pretty psyched about it. Though it says more information on Instagram. It looks like a milky essence. It looks like a milky essence. It's white. It says formulated in Korea for all skin types. Okay, which is like very much like a Korean milky toner essence. Yeah, it's proprietary blend of botanical oils that help nourish skin, keeping it firm and supple contains powerful antioxidants that help protect against skin, stressors. I'm really looking forward to trying this product. And nambo got it. And she was posting about it on her own. Yeah. It says, it's been so hard for me to keep this a secret. Mother, pat McGrath real, got to do the moist together, introducing divine rose essence. Oh, oh, let's watch this video. Okay, yes, it did look very milky. She's patting it and massaging it into the model's face who's like her skin is poreless already. Yeah. She's massaging it into the cheekbones. It gives this nice dewy, finish, I am excited to try this on my face. It says it's free of silicone parabens sulfate gluten, mineral oil petrolatum, and phthalates, if you care about that. And she said, this is what pat said, beautiful glowing skin has always been a part of my work ever since I started doing thousands of shows, shoots, red carpets, and music videos, and more back in the 90s after many years of experimentation and thrilled to introduce the perfect formula and let's see. Yeah, so there's no update on when this is launching or a price point. But we will be sure to let you know when we can. Can't wait. Kirby, I just quickly wanted to bring up one of the stories that we launched as part of our earth month package this past week at refinery, everybody should go and read every story in the earth month package. They're all great. Thank you, Kirby. I'm just like I'm not on Facebook that much and I don't partake in any of the groups. However, I got a pitch from a freelancer. Her name's Meredith starkman, incredible writer. And.
Eyewitness Beauty
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Eyewitness Beauty
"In the beauty industry each week. I am not Nick axelrod welk. I'm Annie creek baum, we will not be using the other name in this episode since Nick is not here. He is taking some time off with the fam, but do not worry. I have a very, very, very special guest that is highly requested by you our dear readers. Stacy woo, who did Zoë Kravitz's makeup on The Batman is joining us today. She is at home with her newborn, so you'll hear Amara make some guest appearances in the background, but we totally nerd out on all the products that she used to create Zoey's look. The makeup was actually designed under the direction and in collaboration with pat McGrath and you'll hear us talk about a couple of the products that she used in the look that our pat products, but she really was there on set working to create the makeup and all the shots with Zoe. So you all will be dressing like her for Halloween. I know I will, I'm buying all these products now, just in case they sell out, sorry. So let's just get right into the interview..
You Beauty
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on You Beauty
"And Afro hair. It's such a cool brand. One of my little tricks is like that's a little bottle of hair and body oil. I always take one of those with me traveling because you can use everything and makes your decolletage look shiny. Your legs look shiny and you're cuticles. Your moisturizer add it to your hair mask or whatever. So it's a multi use oil is like a travel MVP. All right, my first one, oh wow, okay. I have never had a pat McGrath eyeshadow palette before. Pat McGraw is probably the world's most famous and well renowned makeup artist. She is incredible. She was the person behind that kind of black graphic liner on Julia Fox when she was dating Kanye West to hot minute ago, but will forgive her for that. She makes the most incredible eyeshadow palettes..
Gloss Angeles
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Gloss Angeles
"In the presence of royalty. We've got a glow Queen on today's episode. The dewy east of dumplings, exactly the glow queen herself welcome nambo to the podcast. Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much. You guys, I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I'd like to talk shit, so this is perfect. Well, you came to the right place. We have so much to talk to you about. We also are super excited because you are like a Southern California girl, even though you're freezing your butt off in New York right now. Right, okay, well you didn't you spend some time down here or did I make that up? Lots of time, lots of time, yeah. I've worked in LA a lot, yeah. Okay, California girls. And Kirby is officially California girl even though she's originally from Texas. So anyways, lots of talk to you about, but the first question we ask every guest is, what's on your face? Please tell us, what are you currently loving that is on your face right now? Okay, so I literally just did a video 5 minutes before. I just opened this hum out of a PR package. This is the pat McGrath. It's some bridging ten divine blush and glow trio. Like watch. I'm just gonna do it. We do this. We do this and then a lot of highlighter. I already have some mod, but I just want to see. Wow, gorge. It's insane. These are all PR packages that I opened and then I don't know if you guys could see, but this is like my dim sum cart in my mirror. So I start just packing shit all over the place. Oh, and it says do you dumplings? But this is my little dim sum cart and that guy opened PR packages and then I sprinkle some here. I'm using everything new. The new Charlotte tilbury beautiful skin. This new little Stila glitter thing. And then on my eyes, I'm kind of really into this. This is the REM Ariana Grande babydoll palette. The pigmentation is really pretty. So yeah, that's pretty much it, which is actually a lot of things, but whatevs? REM's highlighters are actually very, very underrated. She has one called miss mercury, miss Venus, it's purple. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, it is really pretty. And it's gorgeous dot com. I was shook at how good it looked when I tried it. I wasn't expecting much. And I thought it was gonna be super chalky, but it was great. It's so pretty. Yeah. There's so much good stuff out there. Yeah. Speaking of so much good stuff out there like you probably get sent a million packages a day. How do you sort through it? Are you actually testing everything or you making piles? What's your organizational method? Girl, it's a disaster. Like, listen, I've dreamed about having someone make up my whole entire life..
Be Your Own Makeup Artist with Natalie Setareh
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Be Your Own Makeup Artist with Natalie Setareh
"Appealing to consumers. But we need to get them to listen. And if I have to depart everything, I will do it. Well, that's like a perfect segue into the next question. And you did kind of allude to it. What are some of the hardest products to what are some of the easiest? And is there ever and we can ask it again, but are there products that you prefer to keep in the original packaging? I believe skin care should be left alone. I do not skin care unless they're going into the brands travel size. So for example, I get I use a lot of Sicily and la mer. I'm not going to spend that much money only to the candidate and ruling its efficacy. A lot of people don't realize that somewhere in opaque packaging because they're not meant to see daylight. And then we put them in really cheap plastic transparent stuff. They're probably cutting the efficacy or the stability in half. That's just what I assume just to be on the safe side. So I always say leave those alone or put them in their original small package unless you can find the identical one in the smaller ones. Hard to depart. Really, really thick foundations. I think the foundations in jars, such as play the pole or Charlotte tilbury flawless airbrush filter that some formulas are really thick. So it's the tricky part is finding the right containers for them. Really easy once I have to set our pro products or even luxury products designed by pros, except for pat McGrath. Part of pat McGrath's it's like an experience using her product. You're like, de potting it, it's kind of like, or to you, or is it just kind of like a product? No. Honestly, a lot of the stuff I depart this bad boy. And it's because I feel like everyone wants to carry them, but they don't because of the heavy packaging. Which brings me to another point. It's one thing to depart for yourself or it's another entire responsibility to depart for another person who's paying to do this. I don't think of the price. At the end of the day, they're pigment. This is not life or death. It's not some virus in a test tube that's fragile that will end the planet. You know what I mean? If anything happened. It's Nathan. I tell my team that all the time. Like, is anybody dying here? If I made a mistake and something or typo in a blog or social media and this is not life or death. This is makeup life. I feel like you departed almost every brand at this point. And I always am wondering, have you kind of become desensitized to the actual brand and you're just kind of focused on the product or yeah, totally. I'm actually the sensitized to kids. A lot of people like if I'm on set or clients will come and I ask them another thing I ask from them for their homework is a video of their kid of their existing kit and everything else that they want to incorporate and people take forever doing this because they want to make it clean. They want to present it because they think I will judge their kids. I don't judge kids anymore. I'm so I don't see things anymore. Like how people would think of them. I just always thinking of how I can make things smaller..
Forever35
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Forever35
"Sometimes in their garage, sometimes in a studio, it would just be like these kind of long form interviews. But it was always like a guy talking to another guy. And I have no problem listening to men talk. That can be cool, but I was like, I would love to hear a podcast where women had conversations, but not necessarily. I found that there were kind of two genres of podcaster women at the time. I found a lot of podcasts about career, and it was like, you know, these are killing it in your career and you're just slaying everything. And you're winning at life and it was all very good job for you. You're amazing at your career or like sex in relationship and relationship advice to podcasts. That was just so common and I at the time. And I still love into the gloss. That is just like one of my all time favorite sites. But I remember spending hours just reading these interviews into the gloss and I thought, how cool would it be if you could take a conversation about beauty with interesting women but use beauty as a almost like an entry point to find out more about how they thought about life and their relationship with self care and their relationship with wellness and how they grew up and what beauty standards they inherited from their mother and what they learned from their grandparents and kind of have a more expansive conversation but beauty was the entry point. And I just kind of created the show that I wanted to hear. And it's just kind of gone like that ever since. So I continue to interview women I admire about their approach to beauty. Do you have a dream guest who you have an interview yet? Oh, I think everyone in the beauty world says this, but pat McGrath would be one of my absolute dream guests..
Fat Mascara
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Fat Mascara
"All right, everyone, next segment. Now you may feel like wait a second, the tone is a little different. Keen listeners, keen observers. May notice that there's a difference in the room tone here. So I moved from my in home podcast studio AKA your closet. Some people might call it a closet. Some people it depends on your perspective. Yeah, I moved to Hoboken because I really needed in home podcast studio. But now I'm in my home office, which is adjacent to my kitchen. So yeah, so that's where I'm sitting right now. So that's why it's so much more comfortable though. I hope this works for everybody. What do I hope this works great? Because I'm in a much more comfortable chair. I'm sitting at a large large presidential desk. You're in full beauty editor mode, and you know what? We need you to be there right now. I have natural light right now. So I hope this works for everyone. Okay, so here's the scoop. We put a shout out on our private Facebook page. And anyone is free to join, but you have to go to the private Facebook page. You can check out the link on our Instagram. So I show notes too. It has show notes, yes, there's many, many entry ways. But we have this great dialog going and a couple of weeks ago or a month ago on no time is crazy. I said, what do you want to hear more? What are your questions? And this came up a couple of times, so specific, so specific you guys, eyeliner that lasts. And I have the same problem because sometimes I could eyeliner on. And it's like, what's the point by new? Because it's like half of it smushed off. I still there. The pigment is not where you put it, though. Now, beneath your eye, transferred up onto the top of your lid. From lid grease. Yeah. I also think I smudged it 'cause I'm a face toucher. I'll never forget when makeup by Mario. Gently made fun of me. He was like, I love your eye makeup 'cause it's just so imperfect and messy. And I was just like, thanks. I think he meant it in a sweet way. She really did. That man is a kind. No, he didn't. It was so sweet. He said it reminded him of his sister. Sister. Yeah. But I thought that my eyeliner was super on point for him. I was not. But anyway, it's hard to get a long way eyeliner that does not smudge or travel or change color. Oh God, yeah, the changing of the changing of the color. So anyway, I asked a professional makeup artist. And the sounds gendered, but I asked a woman because I wanted to also to ask a woman who might be wearing the eyeliner herself. But men wear eyeliner all the time. That is a very gender. So you know, but I get a back pedal on that a little bit. I think it's also because if you ask a makeup artist, you're like, most makeup artists are thinking about the client they're putting the makeup on and using it on a client, not themselves. And with the long wear smudge situation, you want someone who knows what it's like to wear the makeup for 12 hours, right? Yeah. I wanted to know somebody, I wanted to ask someone who there's a chance they might be doing this themselves on a daily basis. But again, I do stand by a lot of men are wearing eyeliner themselves on a daily basis. So it depends on the person. But anyway, I'm also just in love with this woman. She has her clients are amazing. And I've been just obsessed with her Instagram lately. Sarah you slim is a fantastic makeup artist and she's also the founder of a new brand called Lula, which is actually a skin care brand, which is interesting for a makeup artist. So check her out at Sarah with an H us, U.S. LA and I've just started dabbling her skin care, which is really nice. It's very simple. It's not highly active. And it's all about great makeup prep and it's really gentle, beautiful, more like if you're into natural type of skin care, I think you're going to like it. But we're here to talk about her eyeliner recommendations. And I'm going to rattle off some of her favorites. And I cosigned on a lot of these. I haven't tried all of them, and I cosigned a lot of these. Ready? This one was from the first that came to my mind. The Bobby Brown blacking gel liner. That's what I brought as a mine. I've got on my wedding day. Did you? Yes, I did not wear the Caviar, which is like the go to blackest black color. I'm more like the brown black color. I'll link to it. I just think it's as we used to say, I haven't said this in a while. We're both in our chocolate brown years when for a lot of women, a deep brown, almost reads black, but it's just much more fun. Yeah. Exactly. It does not move. So yeah, this is a very we've reached a consensus there. Then pat McGrath and that's not like a pencil. You do need a tiny little brush to put that on. It's in a pot. 'cause it's a gel formula. But I do think that's part of the appeal because it definitely glides on smoothly and stays in place. A lot of these are liquid. So yeah, pat McGrath, pat McGrath labs, excuse me, perma precision, liquid eyeliner. That's liquid, yeah. Kat von, okay, KVD excuse me. Yes. Messing up the New Testament. KVD tattoo, waterproof liquid liner. Can I also cosign on that one, I've used it for years and I noticed on shop my shelf where, you know, we put all the products that are from each episode. It is one of the top recommended eyeliners by all the makeup artists that are on shot my shelf, and they're people that you guys, we really trust. So awesome. I hope you guys are shopping our shelf, please. Okay. Trust me, I meant to tell you this, that velo.
Gloss Angeles
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Gloss Angeles
"It's almost like there's linen feeling with involvement felt very lucky and assessable price point and especially last year. I think there was you know number. One i wanted to brand is still very timeless. Yes of course. But then i see heavy. Twenty twenty was buried heavy. And i knew that with the brand and even for me personally. That nudie was my version of joy. I would escape some ways and try to find just to make it. Look i missed or just looking live a little bit. We've been in. the house. Matters happening is pandemic going on. It's affecting people in different ways but generally the bad so for me. I think away it was like how do i sparked joy again like how they joined revolution in itself like making the smiley face a thing making the bright orange assisting making filing thing like you know not having to be like beyond black beauty. I'm like i'm next door. i'm smiling. I'm just looking at myself. Voices from work. How do i see that woman. Who's looking for that solution. In course grab your friends and your pat mcgrath when you're going out a love euphoria moment but every day. I'm really looking like myself. And how do i enhance that so for me from a brand patching perspective. It's something that i've kept driving home. I think especially black women and there's a level of resilience you know. I think so happens in like a level of always finding joy even like just looking at black twitter alone like it's it's just like the the most could be happening but what should it will find a joke somewhere and it becomes like a cultural moment so i think we really sensitive to that when we created the brand and we want to bring joy wherever you are yes. It's luxury like kirby said i. It reminded me a lot of chanel..
Green Beauty Conversations
Eryca Freemantle Talks Diversity in the Beauty Industry
"You've been working with the bt industry as you just said to embrace old tunsil shades all sizes all ages of women for very long time to. How is this message been received. Oh wow you know for me first. Foremost for you to a message out there for it to be authentic. You have to leave it. You have to believe it. So i had been even it for up my whole professional career without realizing it and it was always erica free rental. The voice erica. Fremantle spokesperson erika fremantle. The one that was came to offer quotes. And then i sat down one day. And i said look. I'm a black woman under. I am adopt scheme blackman and i've racist prejudice. Cycads him. You know all of those detrimental remarks. i've heard but i've also heard delete some very positive things as well and my career started out with naomi. Campbell pat mcgrath for those of you. That doesn't know who office. She's the most successful makeup artist on the planet. And naimi we campbell the most successful mordue on the planet Started out at the same time. They're londoners goes from london. So you know i think they are about the only to the existing from my era so the only three of us. So there's something that had to be said about. Officers londoners starting acuras in that era so i was always embracing on the people remember. My story started out. I told you competitive makeup. Where there was any there was an international classroom anyway so i let about lots of different cultures and skin types and undetermined before every nine knew what they were and i came up with this name embracing tones of women. I decided to create a business company under that name. And you know the names quite known especially when it comes to diversity. Even though i try to tell people yes. I am a black woman. Yes it is black lead but it's not just for black people and what we do is educate empower outlive and hopefully inspire people who've in the beauty industry to become
Gloss Angeles
"pat mcgrath" Discussed on Gloss Angeles
"Involved since we're talking about beauty and called our talking about the term cult favorite because it just gets used so much by beauty editors or you know by marketers. Obviously but i feel like it means different things when you're using it like what is like the correct way to use cult favorite. Does it mean like it has a huge following. Doesn't mean that it's a more under the radar. What's the right way or should we be even using it at all. Yeah it's funny. When i was writing them. A guy like searched the word cults in my old beauty editor in box and was hit with like thousands of results. Like it's so overused. It doesn't even mean anything anymore. It doesn't have a precise definition. But remember when i was talking about how lake it wasn't really until the sixties and seventies when everybody started to become aware of colts is something that we should all universally fear so as these things tend to go. As soon as colts became frightening they also became cool. And that's when we got phrases like cult following cult favorite cult classic to describe films like the rocky horror picture show or bans like the grateful dead and fish. And we've gotten so far past that now that like cult favorite and cult following. They don't even mean anything. But we know that. Like as conversationalist. We are pretty savvy at being able to pick up on the context and the stakes implied. Whenever a familiar word is used in conversation so like when a beauty brand says that pat mcgrath's new face powder is like an instant cult favorite. We know that we're not talking about commune's and poison and manic preachers like we know that even though the word is the same and we call pat mcgrath mother. But we take the conversational savviness for granted. I mean there's of course room for miscommunication and like there have been plenty of people who will it. Come across some of little like memes and stuff. Then i'll make on instagram. And we'll feel triggered. Because i'm using the word cult or colt laker cultish to refer to such and such a community that they do not think coltish and that's their right and these things are ripe for misinterpretation but in general like we're pretty good at being able to tell when we mean something is like a destructive crime call versus just like a call follow brand. It's funny too. Because like years ago. I interviewed espy of brand strategy. It soul cycle about like how they cultivated their cult. Follow brand and soul cycle refuse to utter the word cult. They were like we. Don't use that word we say community and yet for the same story i also interview the founders of that brand lit method which is more up and coming like trying to be this little cycle of indoor rowing less concerned that they're an actual cult because they're like still up and coming and i asked them how they felt about the word call and they like. Oh my god we love it are followers call themselves. The bulk call because our logo is a lightning ball. I was just like this is so you know that when a brand or a guru or someone gets really defensive about the word cult that like it's closer to natural cold..
Breaking Beauty Podcast
Foundation Tips With Red Carpet Pro Melanie Inglessis
"Brought on a guest who is a red carpet makeup artist. She's got a celebrity clientele and she completely knows her way around foundation. She can tell you what's good and what's shed with the single swipe type yeah on her wrist. It's quite amazing Gel. Who's in the House so we've got Melanie in glasses in the house. She is got tons of clients like you mentioned. Olivia wild has been one of her clients forever. who else yeah well. I notice when she was in Toronto for the Film Festival. She worked with Maya Hawk so that would be the daughter of Aretha Hawk and Numa Thurman. She's a bit of an up and coming star and if you're a fan of stranger things as I am she was really like the breakout character actor of this past season and I think she was. She was obviously here for a film. I can't remember which one and also at the EMMYS which took place more recently she worked worked with Lena Hetty who is Sarah See Lancaster on game of thrones so everybody who watches game of thrones. You'll know exactly who I'm talking about. Melanie worked with her but she works with a ton of people and you were saying unfortunately I wasn't there for the interview you were saying I would have loved her because she herself has really laid back cool like French girl style style right yeah. I mean super cool great haircut designer Bill Marron Gucci everything but like just mad cool and laid back and no make like he he doesn't really wear makeup which is interesting so she's mad cool and being French. I mean French people are just so known for their skin and taking good care of their skin so I was just very curious to get her perspective on foundation and how she applies it and she's really well known for those great skin. Look so no bullshit right I around April or just going to tell you how it is totally no beating around the bush. I really don't think she sort of panders to brand no so in this episode. You're really going to get the unreal talk. They're real talk foundations. The Do's the don'ts common mistakes a lot of us. Women are making so what are some of the big takeaways some of our listeners ours are going to be able to walk away with today. It was really fun because she actually brought her kit in and it was the first time I think ever that makeup artist on the microphone was rustling around. Interru- okay holding out favorites. She's going to give me the real talk on the Pat Mcgrath Foundation okay. She's GonNa tell us about her. Big pepease about foundations and the ones that are launching right L. and like you mentioned she I gave her a few to play with at the very end of our interview and she literally could put it on the back of her hand in one swatch. Tell me if it was a good foundation or not and I was just my mind was blown. Wow I was fascinated by that. She is going to offer up some clues on how you can try that yourself so that when you're in the store and yeah that's all you can do and not try it on your face. You're going to be able to try and determine if it's actually a good foundation or not yeah and stay tuned to the end because you and I test out a whole bunch going to weigh in on those but first we're gonNA start with skin care and how to prep your skin for foundation before you get your spongier brush or anything like that so taken away Melanie. was there anything you do anything you do with skin preparation that you think is essential essential but most women at home are probably not doing. I mean not everybody can afford a official monthly but acting definitely exfoliating. You know there's a lot of good expediter at different different price point I depends what is your skin concern or. What is this can type so if you have a dry skin may be exfoliating alienating get rid of some of the dry skins and moisturizing so it's basically trying to find a routine that works for your skin type yeah and do you have a facial expression later that you really like that you find his gentle that have some pads because I don't always have the luxury to client. Oh go and wash your face with then what it because of the hair and everything so. I do have a pad at the pets from Arcona. Okay that kind of exfoliating pad oh so a just pick one pad and I'm allowed to you know to six four lead the skin gently oh cool now when it comes to primer. I've heard that you I never used a primer. No you don't in my life. Okay interesting for me. I don't I'm not I'm not familiar with primary. I don't use primer I don't okay. I I work with so many different client different results sometime. I want different finishes and I don't want to throw a primer that I'm not sure how the foundation's GonNa stick take to it. Is it going to glide is going to give me low residue so I don't use primarily. No a Charlotte Tilbury doesn't use primer either a lot of makeup artist on no. I think you're really like really for it or you're like. It's not for me is not from avenues a prayer. That's amazing. What a boot finding your rights shade. And what do you do if you are shopping in a drugstore or online for a foundation like. Is your shortcut to finding your exact rate shade. I mean I wouldn't show for the first. I'm online for nation. Yeah I would say if you you shop in. A drugstore is shopping department store. If you know get a Mirror Mirror on you you have to lady or the South Personnel Yourself. Here's a little foundation really Baio line. Go outside. If it's three floor up the day you know the delight is the only way yeah I'm always so amazed at. Just Barney's redid the entire beauty basement yet. It's gorgeous but delight is it's blue so if you go at a natural eight and you see you can see the founder like what are you looking for. Are you looking forward to disappear on the scan or what are you looking forward to know your have your match. I mean you looking for a column Hala match. I would say that's the most important some women like a very light foundations rustic Joe so women like l'amour coverage so disappearing into the skin yes but but it's not always a few have if you like a thick coverage you know a minor disappeared. Some women like you know coverage with defacement when I'm looking for was differently a column match what I'm struggling with right now. Information Industry is the
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