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"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

Notsam Wrestling

12:28 min | 11 months ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

"It's it's just kind of surreal in a way even though it's bittersweet I guess you can say yeah no I totally got it and it really is amazing that like yeah the that somebody. That's your age has that perspective. Everybody's got an opinion on Vince. Mcmahon and on wwe inside and outside the wrestling industry. Like everybody knows everybody's gotten opinion. Everybody thinks that he does this. But I mean there's so few people that actually understand what it is. I don't even understand what it is to actually worked directly with him and actually hear how his mind works and everything that to me would probably be the most fascinating part of the whole process that you went through. I think so. I mean 'cause it's that's that's the guy and I really didn't when I when when I took this job I didn't really know how directly that relationship would be. I didn't know that every single I made it a point of practically every single time at work. It's going to be hemmed. I in a room doing something you know. Or or me Pitching an idea. Or there's some sort of interaction and that they were all great experiences you know they were all tremendous learning experiences at made me better my position and there were. I learned and will just have you know from that. That promoter perspective me learned so much that now. I am able to take that and put that wherever. And there's a lot there's just so many great minds when you're when you're you know working with him in and Bruce and hunter and just and all the producers collectively you know just. I felt like I was in the. Who's who of wrestling minds. You know and really learning different people's leaderships styles and how they deal with talents and how they come up with ideas you know. Some guys were very good on coming up with creative. Finishes some are really really good at just knowing how to say the right thing to a talent to motivate them. It's not just about you know the story lines and it's about it's we're we're coaches we're not just producing matches. Were really responsible for bringing the best out of every single talent that there is you know. That's that's and being you know it. It's not an easy job either are we. We have to the the company comes first and we have to be the bearer bad news. I love the job I really do. And it was just such a tremendous at first a little seeing how everything was as within after a couple of weeks like to be in charge of matches that were very important high-calibre like I'm proud of that. Yeah how long does it take you to get rid of any imposter syndrome? That's how long does it take you to go like no. I'm fully capable of producing this matter. Nope I know exactly how to pitch to somebody like Vince. Mcmahon in and I can I can pitch this idea whether he likes it or not I know I know I can pitch this idea and be comfortable one of my favorite things and I didn't expect this was when I first got the the job I worried that going up there will if I work with particular talent. Say like around your more someone on you know. It's one thing if you have a fit Finlay or you know someone producing your match but you know I'm younger. I don't come from the W. World. Hauer certain talents going to react to me being. They're producing their match and I couldn't have been further wrong like the everybody was incredible and I was kind of shocked. People that you wouldn't expect to know the independent wrestling scene. They all knew who I was and that to me when I'm not seeing from ego saying because I was surprised right I was really surprised. How no we we know of? You were aware view and it that imposter syndrome. It goes away quickly because people can see through. You know one thing i. I want to hear the talents ideas first and then tweak them and then offer you know there are some people that I know in wrestling that they have their set. Mindset is how it's going to be and it doesn't work you know what I mean so that it was such an incredible and I bring up randy because like randy was so incredible know had a couple of his matches. Great any offer you know unique takes offer just a thing it. I really felt like I belonged. And you could see with you. Know how the outside Sling world matters. So that's the number one thing I take from that. Is that what you do in the wrestling business? Outside of their you know because there used to be thing that what you did before do we didn't matter well I'll tell you like it matters now. It was different back then or need us even different ten years ago but I think the respect of your peers happen with what you do outside of their because when you come in they'll be all I know that that person to have just for him where I know that person L. and other people I don't think you know it won't work out for them but is unique unique time. Yeah I'm sure Does your promoter part of your brain ever turn off like you ever go like okay. You know wrestle pros in good hands. I don't need to think about that or even like as this is all happening. Like as quarantine is starting even though you're not in your mind you're like well. I'm a producer with wwe. Now I don't really need to think about how to run show you know outside of this. Are you still somewhere in your brain going like okay? Well how would I have run? Shows how do I think this is all going to work out it at first when I first got up there It turned off for a little bit and I really delegated responsibility to to my crew and then towards the end I started taking habits that I developed up there and and kind of and they were more communication skills. There were more figuring away to Make finish his better figure out a way to kind of just. I took a lot. I got more involved towards the later months and now it's now it's really really kicked on. I mean to be perfectly honest to some things are in the act my brain. I love being a producer but being in my mid thirties. Anyone who's anyone can still go and wrestling still wants to perform this. Don't WanNa work. The you know that they wanna be in the ring or do something and like I always had that each however my jobs producer. That's what I do and happy to do it. And that's what you're I'm here for. It's like now that that's not happening. My I'm looking at it. From every perspective from the future promoting shows to producing my shows to be in a wrestler on my shows but everywhere else in essentially working with other companies to see where I land. Yeah Yeah I mean it's it's it's you're right about it being an amazing time and you have hit the ground running. Launching your podcast. The PAT buck show. Everyone's out so you can find it. Had Buck show of your search apple or wherever you get podcast. You'll find it. But you merely got back into podcasts world and I liked what I heard on the first episode where you're kind of and I think this is what people should do when they're podcasting sticking to your expertise in the sense that you're like it's a lot of it is focused on training and and helping wrestlers from that perspective and I feel like as a fan and maybe it's just because I'm so such a wrestling nerd like I'm GonNa WanNa listen to a podcast. That's intended to kind of teach wrestlers a little bit just because it'll help me as a fan understand the business more right. I've always felt that you know. Since obviously are you know we say the term sports entertainment or predetermined whatever may be? But I've always felt like if you pull the curtain back a little more that those people were not not fans like us will appreciate wrestling a thousand times over. They'll really get it. You know the PODCAST I want to. I really did. Miss podcasting and the premise of this show is kind of. I was trying to think about a particular avenue wrestling. But I'm kind of involved in a lot of stuff so I didn't know where to start. You know. My first episode is really kind of a calling card to those hitting the independence left w e because a lot of them don't know what to do even those at that broken enhancement about an experience. They leave their net Alan. They're kind of all. What do I do now? And I've seen a lot kind of make. The most of their paternity and use this time period to elevate themselves to go back and really cash in and make that impact. And then you've seen other people crash burn so. I kind of wanted to address that first episode just like. Hey I'm here for you guys but more so. This is what I kind of basic things. I think he should do or shouldn't do because I've navigated these waters for for a long time so Yet but also getting to training stuff you know I. I'm just count the number one thing I miss. The most is training school so I can't wait till opens back up. I'm just I'm just itching to hit the ground running even more and do something physical. Yeah did you have to take a couple of days after Would I mean I don't even really know the difference? I don't Know Business Enough. I guess but do you. Were you released furloughed or or you said earlier. You don't know you could be back tomorrow. You could never be back. You could be back after quarantine who knows. Is that kind of just where you're at pretty much. I mean I think the main reason why this this producers Every single week we have a live events right. And you have two to three depending on the show a raw brand show. You have to producers in charge. And we are the go-to guys were in charge of everything. If you have a combined show it's three to four producers meaning because they're bigger shows both talent from both brands and for tours always producer there. So now it's not just the TV's TV's are still running. They're they're doing what they're doing but we needed a huge group produce or enough of us to run these lap events. We don't know where live events are going so I think if that opportunity presents itself again I would have to happen when live events. Start opening up right. Because we're you know. Non Televised Stop the producers run run run shop where in charge so That's kind of the. I think everything. Just so gosh up in the air right now that we really don't know. I think that all of us collectively that were released or furloughed will will You know I think that everybody did a tremendous job. We had a great team so I think we could all go back eventually. If that's something doesn't pop up before them. Yeah I mean I'd have to imagine that it's kind of re- it's gotTa be reassuring on a certain level then clearly. These are not performance based cuts their situation based cuts and the fact is that they brought in a ton of new producers because the company grew and the world is made it so the company has now shrunk in not in terms of you know anything other than how wide their footprint is and what they're doing they're no longer going to you know two hundred different arenas every year and have 'em being all over the place now we've narrowed down to. This is the spot that we're in right now so even on the same day. Yeah there could be a raw live event happening in Saint Louis and we have our own crew there. While smackdown his touring right. Louche RIGHT SO I. It was just really a numbers game right and I think you know For myself at least you know a lot of the newer the newer producers you know myself and Lance in you know Dr Ian stuff like we were the newer guys and you know that that's just the way it is but yeah we'll we'll see what happens. Yeah do you Do you have a favorite moment or match or thing that you did while you were in? Wwe You're responsible for.

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"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

Notsam Wrestling

08:39 min | 11 months ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

"Who is the Michael Jordan of wrestling and I thought about it a lot and at first you just like okay? Michael Jordan grazed of all time. I Guess Hulk Hogan you know Michael Jordan is like the Babe Ruth of Basketball Babe Ruth Michael Jordan Hulk Hogan you know I I think right but I really started to think about this and this is after watching the documentary. And what's important to me in? The documentary is this is not a guy who Michael Jordan was got to where he got. Judah just simply physical gifts right. That's part of it. Of course you know some of its God given but the reason that he was not just very good the reason he was the greatest of all time was because he Worked any busted his ass and the one thing that comes through in the doc is that he was always obsessed with being the best from the time he got there. His only goal was to be the best to ever do it. There's only a few people everybody wants to be the best that ever do it. But there's only a few people that will actually put the work in and really make it their goal to be the best to ever do something that they're doing and I think that is a key component to when factoring in the Michael Jordan of other professions a Scott to be somebody who came in with a singular goal of. I'm going to be the best of all time. Somebody who is naturally gifted but not somebody who would I on their debut. Michael Jordan was drafted. Third Right so would have to be somebody we're talking about. Wwe somebody wasn't necessarily pegged as. Oh yeah he's going to be the greatest of all time. You know what I mean. He's Oh yeah he's champion right away and somebody that has to work for it right. It's not just enough. That they did work for it is that they had to work for it. And it's somebody who's obsessed with winning and doing well every single time they go out there. Jordan played every single game like it was a championship game. And that's when I got to thinking. Okay who is that really and it's somebody who can do it over time. Jordan's got six rings. You know what I'm saying. So for me for me. Steve Austin could be a candidate in the sense that he wasn't pegged to be the best of all time he worked as balls off and became that way. However I think because Steve Austin only lasted the amount of time that he lasted as the best and it took him so long to get there that he doesn't factor in exactly what the Michael Jordan of wrestling the rock to me is a little more Lebron James. He also has the same thing with with Austin in the sense. That is run wasn't quite long enough on top to be considered a Michael Jordan but also not that. The Rock didn't work. You know we all know the six bucks story but the Rock was pegged to be a star from the beginning whether it worked or not Rocky Maya view was supposed to be a star and a lot of it was God given. You could say John Sina you could. I don't think John. Seen a quite. I think the difference with John. Seen is while he is in the conversation of the best of all time. I just don't see him. As Jordan Jordan had a style about him there was a style about Jordan that even a non basketball fan would look at it and go. Oh my God. What's that that to me is? What's missing with John? Cena to me the only real answer and the only choice you could say Rick Flair. And that's a debate you could have but I don't know that Rick Flair. I don't know if it's the fact that he didn't win enough because really in wrestling wins and losses. Don't matter so much I mean. Ric flair is a great match after great match. But you know first of all you couldn't call in the Michael Jordan of the wwe for sure because so much of what he did was outside of the wwe so maybe if you open this wrestling wide you could have a bigger conversation but if we're just talking about wwe it's certainly not ric flair because he didn't do that work in wwe. So with that with all of that taken into account for and I would love for you guys to tweet a love for you guys to write in comments you can email not same wrestling gmail.com. However you want to communicate with me communicate with me but tell me what you think of this because in my mind the only answer for who is the Michael Jordan of wrestling. You'd even leave it in the comments on Youtube is Shawn Michaels to me Shawn. Michaels is the Michael Jordan wrestling. He checks all the boxes. You're talking about a guy who greatness could last over the course of years. You're talking about a guy who was always good but never pegged to be the best of all time. You're talking about a guy obsessed with becoming the best of all time. You're talking about a guy who every night would go out there and try to steal the show and try to have the match of the night and try to deliver the same quality of match as if it were wrestlemainia. You're talking about a guy who did it with that style. That certain Juno say qual- the Michael Jordan. Did it with and a guy who when you look back at his career you could say yeah. Yeah that might be the best guy to ever do it. Yeah I know. Those conversations were happening while he was still playing. But when you look back at the entire career becomes much more difficult. And I'll never forget an interview that I did with with Shawn Michaels. That just made me rethink everything when he was talking about. I mean he did return match. But we don't really talk about that match. He's talking about why he didn't return and how he looked at his career and how it was all one story that he thought on that level. And that's the level of thinking that you need to think on if you're the Michael Jordan of professional wrestling to me there's no question. Shawn Michaels is the Michael Jordan of professional wrestling. I'd love to hear your opinions. Tell me I'm wrong but I doubt you can. You can prove me wrong. I doubt you could say Shawn Michaels. Not that's what I think. Somebody's worked his ASS OFF IS FRIEND OF THE SHOW. Pat Buck Pat Buck. He is one of the founders or is the founder I guess of Wrestle Pro Big Indy promotion out here on the East Coast. Pat Bug is a journeyman in this world of wrestling had a dream to make it to the WWe superstar that dream was not fulfilled for various different reasons. But as a huge shock to me he ended up a producer for. Wwe which I don't know if he ever saw coming but I certainly did not see coming. I thought he may end up you know. He owns a school called creative. Pro alongside the Prince of Queen's. Brian Myers formerly known as Curt Hawkins And I thought that that might translate into him. Coaching at the performance center. I could have seen that for him. You know he's got a lot of friends and wwe. I'm like yeah I could see him people and people really like him. He's a good trainer as I could see him I could see him as a as a as a coach at the performance center. And I'll remember I never. I'll always remember when I heard that. He got the GIG. I can't remember who told me. Might have been my wife talking to his wife but I was like always moving to Orlando and she goes. No He's going on the road. I was like what and then I found out. He was going to be a producer and he spent He spent a while at. Wwe Is a producer but he was one of the casualties of the Recent releases he was one of I think nine producers who were released but PAT has a fascinating story. And he's got a new podcast called the Pat Buck show and when I heard that he's got a new podcast. I said Pat. Why don't you come on Nazi? I'm wrestling? We have about wrestling will promote your podcast. It'll be all good. He said Sam. That's a great idea. So this is it this week on Nazism wrestling enjoy the one and only pat buck before we go a step further..

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"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

Notsam Wrestling

09:46 min | 11 months ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

"Is Sam Rulers Patty my day while not Sam Wrestling Happy Day. Welcome to another week of wrestling another week of not Sam wrestling happy to see you. I'm pretending I can see you. You're happy to see me or probably hear me beauregard. Lois. Let's enjoy ourselves. Okay let's go welcome to not SAM wrestling a lot of podcasters say this and I never do. I just assume you know but I do hope that wherever you get podcast you leave a rating and review on I tunes or spotify leave the rating. Leave the review. You subscribe you follow any of the stuff that any podcast you listen to if it says. That helps their podcast. Assume that if you do it for mine it'll help my podcast to and I'd like for you to do it. Okay so do all anything that you do for anybody else's podcast this positive do for mine too. It would be a big help. Welcome did not SAM wrestling Another week you know We got a Pat Buck on the show today. Good friend of the show good friend of Mine Pat Buck will be here are not same wrestling but before we get to pat there are some things that That require a bit of a discussion. I would say I want to say that You know I talked last week about Michael Cole. And the Treatment Michael Cole was getting on smackdown and the fact that none of those big meaty wrestlers would just leave Michael alone that all Michael Cole wants to do is do as job out there. And for some reason every time imagines somebody's gotTa Jump All over Michael Cole. And it's enough of it. No more can't happen anymore. I said that the coal mine should come back and I believe it now more than ever on smackdown shameless and we wasn't even there for his match matched entity it left. He came back out. Hey Michael Cole started talking about Jeff. Hardy getting shameless came out and got real real up in his grill and real real close to him and I mean I was getting real heidenreich leads from him. I'M NOT GONNA I'm not GonNa you know away and we could bring this stuff up. You know I mean. Mr McMahon was on smackdown randomly mentioning. Katie Vick so I feel like if that's coming up and triple H is a twenty five year anniversary spot. Then we can bring up the fact that I got strong. Heidenreich vibes and I don't mean Legion of Doom Heidenreich. I think you know exactly what Heidenreich I mean. Kids out there. If you don't know what I'm talking about Google Michael Heidenreich and you see what comes up because that's the that's the vibe that I got from shameless. Also on smackdown you know. We had the twenty fifth anniversary of triple h in the wwe twenty five years since we were graced with the bow. From the Greenwich Blueblood Hunter Hearst Helmsley and I had mentioned something on twitter a story which triple h and it was not the first time I'd met him but I think it was the first time my wife Jessica met him and the long version of that story. 'cause people you know had questions on after twitter. I just thought of it as we're talking a lot of triple h stories. I've known triple eight for a long time. See TRIPLE H he. He would do the radio show that I worked on OPIE and Anthony. Even when I was an intern. He was doing it so I mean I. I've known I've known. Triple H Mick Foley and Chris Jericho since I was an intern on that radio show. Mvp to actually. I don't think I was an intern when I met. Mvp But I wasn't far from an intern MVP. And I go back to very far but it is weird. You know when you're kind of their professional capacity. Hang out with these people that know you from your radio you know stunt boy days and it's not the best luck in the world but hey it's the reality we live. Okay what am I going to complain about it so open? Anthony had done a pilot for comedy central. That never got picked up but it was like a scavenger hunt where it was a a bunch of comedians albeit anthony where the hosts and they would send out comedians To get things done for points and the comedians would bring with them like you know little weasels. That would just do whatever they needed done. And I was one of the weasels and apparently on the show. One of the hints was or one of the points mechanisms was Get a stranger to kiss this one of your teammates and so they got a stranger to kiss me and it was a guy and then they claimed after the kiss happened that it was a homeless guy. Now look. This was many years ago and I didn't catch anything from it. So you know no harm no foul. As far as I can see plus I never got full confirmation that he was a homeless guy but the reason I bring it up is because the next day triple age was in studio and it might have been the first time I met triple H. I don't know for sure but it was definitely very early on. I remember is very excited to meet triple H and I remember I walked with him at the time. We did the first half of the show in the studio because we were on both K rock in. Xm satellite. We did the first half of the show in the K rock studio. We did the second half of this show in the Xm studio. That was a block away and every time every single morning. We'll do the first half of the show walk a block to the second half of the show. It was a really weird setup but triple h was actually staying over and doing the Xm portion of the show as well. And I remember triple H and I made the walkover together that day and I don't know how comfortable I felt about it because Opie and anthony new my wrestling random and knew how much I love triple eight and they said hey triple age. Would you hear what our Guys Sam did yesterday? And they made me tell him the whole story and then we really got into examining I mean. Look it was hilarious but not for me at the time is very embarrassing for me at the time but I think triple. H has a steel trap memory because then I saw him. It must have been months later and I was at a hard rock press conference. They used to do press conferences before like Wrestlemainia at the Heart Cafe. So is before Wrestlemainia. He was the wwe champion at the time. And I was sitting right up front with the media. You know my little press hat in my little notebook my little pencil ready to cover this thing. It was Wrestlemainia. Twenty seven probably would the Ms. Yeah it had to be Wrestlemainia twenty-seven with MS verses no because triple h was champion at the time so it might have been wrestlemainia twenty six. Maybe Y- maybe but regardless doesn't matter Triple H is up there. He gives his speech and everything he sits at the dais and we locked eyes and he kinda pointed and not to say hello and he blew me a kiss and I was like Oh. He remembers. That was months ago. I can't believe he remembers then years later years later. This is now at summer slam in Los Angeles. I had done a a an audition to be a WWe commentator. The audition fell on deaf. Ears I did not get the job at the time however I was at this like a WWe corporate charity party thing. And I and I was with my wife and I was like Oh jess. I've got to push through the crowd over there. Just to mention to triple H auditioned. Just in case you know the tape ends up on his desk or anything like that and so she was like if you want to. So the three dead. I pushed through and I talked to the man in the game and I told him what I done is like. Oh that's great. Yeah yeah well I'll see if I can get a copy of the tape and then I said he may. Have you ever met my wife? I'd love to introduce you know. her and he was like I'd love to see I mean triple issues like the nicest guy ever and so I'm like okay. She's right over here and she had stayed back so I can kind of push through. And as we're walking over triple h just leans in and whispers in my ear. He means she know about the whole you kissing homeless guys. Thank God of all the things for you to remember about me but of course my answer. I mean I was laughing because like yeah. Yeah she does. She knows about everything she did. But that's what that story was that I kinda briefly briefly mentioned on twitter Speaking of the triple h and Shawn Michaels triple h Twenty Fifth Anniversary Thing that happened on smackdown Shawn Michaels was there. And I've been thinking about this a lot. You know there's this terrific I guess it's a Docu series technically 'cause it's a ten part documentary on the ninety seven ninety eight Chicago Bulls season. It's called the last dance whether you're a basketball fan or not. You'll love this. It's just a great story and Michael Jordan's all over it. I brought up.

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"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

Notsam Wrestling

02:26 min | 2 years ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

"There's all a new sense of realism to it. I hope that they go further. I hope that they started talking about how dusty was there for Cody but not so much there for Dustin. I hope that they go into Cody being jealous of Dustin because dusty would wherever blah, let's get real. You know, let's get into the reasons why brothers fight with each other. And why resentments build and maintain throughout adulthood? Why have a brother versus brother match if not to do that? I'm interested to see how it goes. I'm interested to see if gold is gonna paint half his face red. Like he does in the video. But I also think that until eighty w screws up. Fans will remain optimistic as they should for what's going to happen. Speaking of what's going to happen again? Or what did happen? We spend another story outside of WWE this week and a certain return. So it was in mealy walk. Hey, milwaukee. Wisconsin an independent wrestling show by promotion known as M K E. Yes. Yeah. M K E. I don't know what I'm K E stands for to tell you the truth M, K E, wrestling, Milwaukee, something or other. Let me click and see if I can give you the answer. No. I don't know. What MK maybe it, just Milwaukee? Maybe M K E short for Milwaukee, just Milwaukee professional wrestling. I don't know it doesn't matter. The point is that this is. What's his name, a silence Young's promotion there in Milwaukee? And a masked man came in. I believe on Monday and interrupted one of the matches hoisted one of the stars up on his shoulders and dropped him head into knee for a go to sleep. Now. There have been stills taking of this image and the face behind that mask. The is look very familiar. I was just on the squared circle. Read it sub forum, and I saw a photo that somebody took in the eyes looked very familiar. Silence. Young tweeted out here is some punk. Running in a match last night m gay wrestling. You never know who's gonna show up at our shows former world champions have been stopping in at the last couple of shows dome..

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"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

Notsam Wrestling

03:34 min | 2 years ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

"It would've looked amazing. Hopefully, I can still get my hands on it. Maybe not the one he had in the video because the one he had in the video has been locked away inside the chess. Most of the forgotten for life for a lifetime along with that t shirt, but. Dustin Rhodes destined roads remain. So gold dust is no longer with the WWE. I guess the contract is over and it was announced this week that not only will Dustin Rhodes or Justin Runnells, or however he's going to be known not only will he be it's dark cast. But at the W inaugural paper, you some people think that all in is the inaugural. I don't I mean, it wasn't a e w was all in was a specialty all in was the predecessor to the inaugural Awa pay per view, this excess of all in led to the creation of eight e w AWS inaugural show is double or nothing and one of the big matches at double or nothing. It was officially announced will be gold dust or I'm sorry, Dustin Rhodes or destined Reynolds versus Cody it's going down. And you know, I think that that's amazing. You know, I think that. Awa this moment has the ability to do almost anything and for people to respond with. That's cool. Could because they haven't screwed anything up yet. You know, everything that they've done has not been screwed up. Once they start screwing up is when people are going to start looking at them with a speculative. I, however as long as everything they're doing is succeeding and everything they're doing works and feels reasonable and feels organic. I think people are going to continue to be excited about the potential eighty w is generally looked at with a lot more optimism than WWE is because WWE has several decades of succeeding and several decades of screwing up as well. Eighty w has had the people associated with a w have had a couple of successes and zero failures. So when you're when that's your batting average people are going to assume that there's going to be home runs. You know, we've seen gold dust versus stardust before. And that wasn't. I don't think what it could have been. However, that's not Cody versus Dustin. That's not at double or nothing. That's not under eighty w. You know, I think that if there's anything we've seen with gold dust in the WWE it's that when he got clean, and when he kind of cleaned up his life. He seemed like he got a new motivation for. Wrestling for being in shape. And you know, it was every time he would have a match somebody on commentary would talk about the Benjamin button rule applying to gold in the sense that he just somehow as he gets older only gets younger, and I think that that dust in Ronald's has everything to prove come all or nothing. I think the Dustin Ronald's needs to go out there and prove that not only can he still go, but that he can go without the gold character. You know? And I think that he's wrestling a new Cody this is not the same Cody that played stardust us. This is a new main event caliber, Cody. And so I think that there's a whole new backdrop behind this match. There's a whole new layout..

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"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

Notsam Wrestling

03:53 min | 2 years ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

"Because I think that the. The white family has moved on. And quite frankly, the damage has been done to the white family. I don't I think that if we saw him come back, and it weren't all felt like it was going to be the same as it was when he left we would sit there and go no it isn't going to work. It didn't work the last time. I think that clearly there is some kind of a plan here, which isn't always the case with stuff. But clearly, I think as you watch you go. Okay. Well, they ran vignettes for about three weeks leading up to this. And then hit right into the Bray. Wyatt kids TV show host with a chainsaw thing. Clearly, a story is being told here, you know, as I watched this. I say, okay, sometimes we when we watch WWE, we worry that maybe the people telling these stories, the people writing these stories, I should say not the people telling these stories, but the people writing these stories may not know exactly what they're telling or maybe ready to change at a moment's notice. I think it seems to me that there is a clear plan for Bray Wyatt here. I think it's clear to the people that wrote it, I don't think it's clear to any of us. Just yet. But I think it's cool. You know, I mean it brought me back to the days of like the rumors that mister Rogers. I mean, it turns out the rumors weren't true. But you all heard it as a kid that mister Rogers had like Vietnam tattoos on all under his sleeves. And that's why he's always wearing the card again, and all kinds of crazy stuff. What if there was a dark in demonic side to this children's television host that you're watching? You know, I think that there's there's tons of potential in that he's building a world around this new persona that. Plays into the world that he had built before he left. So I don't. I don't know what it could work out terribly. Of course, you know, we don't know we don't know the answers sway. We don't know how it's gonna work out. But I don't think there's any reason to not be optimistic or not say, it's cool. What's going on with Bray wide or not say, it's different? I feel like a lot of times. When you can't immediately tell where something's going or you don't immediately go. Oh, this is cool. He's my new favorite guy that people get turned off by that. There are some people to get turned off by that. But to those people I would say patience is a virtue. You have to be patient, and wait and see what's going to happen here. Because there is no reason in my mind for us to feel any way, except this could be really good. And this is what this is. This is an opportunity for bright something that we've been waiting for Bray Wyatt to get for quite some time. You know, I thought that it was delivered. Well, and I'm interested to see where it's going next. And that's the whole point. Right. I wanted to into raw next week and find out what's going to happen. I mean, excuse me. I must be allergic to the truth. It might have been the best thing on raw this week. My I think it was the most compelling. It's the thing that I'm interested in seeing what happens next, and I think that's very very crucial in this world of professional wrestling. Speaking of what happens next, we go to story number four story. Number four is what's happening next with Dustin Rhodes it was announced. This is another eighty dub signing it was announced. The Dustin Rhodes is saying goodbye to the gold dust character forever. He posted a video on Twitter in which he put a severed gold dust head, which I didn't know existed. If I had I would have had one I have a gold dust ring worn bodysuit on a mannequin in my studio, and it just got a regular mannequin head. If I knew there were severed gold heads lying around. I would have slapped one of those puppies on top of this thing..

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Notsam Wrestling

03:18 min | 2 years ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

"I just give my opinions when they're asked for. I mean, if you keep watching that episode of main event to the second match, I wasn't seeing exactly glowing things about the B team right now either. As a matter of fact, I believe my quote was that they should call the B team the c team because all they do with any consistency is capitulate. Now, I'm sitting here and pointing out the consistent nature with which the beat team capitulates. I would say that that is just as bad as anything that. I've said about anybody. And it's I mean, it's it's my opinion. These people go out there, and they performed publicly in the ring. So what am I gonna do? They put themselves in positions to be judged. That's what you do when you become a public figure the same thing reason that I would say if any of them said, well, here's what I think of you as a commentator fine. I don't care. I put a I talked into a microphone for television. Everybody's allowed to have whatever opinion about me they want, but this idea that I should not be going out and giving my opinion is ridiculous. It makes it makes no sense. You don't think? If it had been no way Jose in a match instead of Dana, Brooke that I wouldn't have said the exact same thing or spoken along the exact same lines about no way. Jose. I mean, come on. What are you looking for? You should have seen my Twitter mentions this week. They were a ridiculous ridiculous. But no, this is what happens WWE says. Hey, come just give your opinion say what? However, you feel. Okay. I'm gonna tell you exactly how I feel about this. Because when you say just tell me how you feel I'm gonna tell you exactly how I feel then. That's it. No, more whatever you put in front of me. I'm gonna tell you how I feel about it. I'm not going to think about gender. I'm not going to think about it. And this is the I'm not going to think about rates anything about any of it. I'm going to think about the fact that I'm watching to superstars compete, and I'm going to tell you what I think about those superstars as superstars. And that's what I did. And that's why I can't imagine you would ever hear an apology from me. But I appreciate everybody that took the time to watch it whether you like it or not, and hopefully I will get the opportunity to be guest of the WWE again in the future at some point. Because I just love it. All right. All right. Let's move on to this week's state of wrestling. It's now time for this week's state of wrestling here. We are. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to this week's state of wrestling state of wrestling two hundred and thirty five let's get right to it. Of course. It's the top five stories of the week broken down. According to yours, truly the last professional broadcaster. Sam Roberts, by the way. I was. Talking about it. I think that this week Charlotte and Bailey may have had the best match of the week. I think after all the wrestling that I saw this week. Anyway, all arresting that was on television. I think Charlotte and Bailey might have had the best match of the entire week. All right. Let's get into our top five stories speak. And this is one of the things all actually everything here happened this week. Obviously, that's why we're talking about it now in the state of wrestling, it's a topical segment. Bray? Wyatt is story number five. So the answer of what was with the vulture puppet in the box..

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Notsam Wrestling

02:32 min | 2 years ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

"I mean, the negative feedback WWE asks me to go in they said, look would you like to come do commentary for main event, I said, I would love to do commentary. Of course, I'll do that anytime you want. And so I go in and they say, you know, don't worry. We don't want you to be a WWE commentator. We don't want you to be that. You know, we want you to go on be Sam Roberts and simply give your opinion. That's all just give your opinion. Don't worry about trying to sound like anything, you're not, you know, you're a guest here. You've never been in the Rangers go on. And let us know what you think of the people that are in the ring and what they're doing. So I went in there. And I said not the most nice things flattering things in the world about Dana, Brooke and her wrestling abilities. Look, I didn't realize it was. Grime for Dana brook to not be your favorite WWE superstar in the world. If you're not rooting for Dana brook, then all of a sudden this is, you know, this is catastrophic. I had no idea the delicate nature. I know I DEA That the. the the people watching would be so sensitive, so so delicate. That so fragile frail that this would be an issue. You know, I was accused of everything in the book that I was disrespectful to Dana. Brooke I was accused of being a misogynist. The apparently, I only run my mouth on the women of the WWE. They brought up Bianca Bel Air. Again. Look a couple of things number one. I'm not apologizing to Dana broke the same way. Didn't apologize to Bianca BelAir? Okay. The day that a person cannot go behind a microphone in the WWE and speak their mind about what they're seeing is the day that maybe I'm not the guy that should be behind a microphone the only reason to put a microphone in front of my face is because you want to hear what my opinion is. So that's what you're gonna get every time. There's a microphone in front of my face as far as the accusations of misogyny. That's just absurd absurd. I mean, anybody that thinks I haven't gone after people the Bianca Bel Air. Dana, brooke. Yes, I've also gone after Finn Ballard I've gone after Johnny Gargano I've gone after Matt riddle. I said Seth Rollins at zero chance of win. I said all kinds of stuff..

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Notsam Wrestling

02:48 min | 2 years ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

"Create a dot com going to start your careers, and I guess just all my social media stuff to see where I'm going to be rustling or producing or coaching or you You know. know? I just all things wrestling, man. That's awesome. Create create a pro wrestle pro at buck never stops. Thanks as always man's been great. Thanks him. Bridget here is Sam Roberts. Thanks to Pat. But that was a lot of fun. You know, we talked about social media and wrestle pro using social media. I think one of the best examples of social media that I saw I mean all week and in some time and something that's getting overlooked a little bit. I think is Alexander wolf so Alexander wolf goes on Twitter. And I guess this is a spoiler because I don't think it's aired yet. But it was all over the internet. So. I guess, you know, if I tell you what it's a spoiler for the spoiler will have happened. So spoiler is on the way Alexander wolf goes on Twitter last week and is saying goodbye to sanity and he's doing that. Because Eric Young's been drafted to raw. And he makes it seem like he's leaving. You know, it doesn't really speak for what Killian Dane is doing doesn't really speak for NICKY cross at all. He just makes it apparent that. He's leaving. And you're almost going like, oh my gosh. Is this him asking for his release the same time that Luke Harper was asking for his release. You know, all this stuff is going on. And so you're going abo- in the world is talking about Alexander wolf, and how much they don't want him to leave and all this stuff. Well, come to find out at the annex t u k TV tapings Alexander wolf shows up, and he goes on Twitter to announce he never said where he was going. He's not leaving WWE, but he's certainly leaving smackdown for greener pastures of annex t u k and. I just thought that that was such a great swerve and such a great use of social media. I don't know if somebody put him up to it. I don't know if he thought of it himself. But I just thought it was so well done so kudos to Alexander wolf. I thought it was so cool. Speaking of social media, leave it to your boy the last professional broadcasters Sam Roberts to cause a stir. You know, I I was in Montreal last week superstar shakeup night. That's where we taped main of that. And I did commentary WWE commentary for the very first time in my life. You know, I had a couple of matches to shine. And I tried my best. It was Dana Brooke versus to Meena, and it was heavy machinery versus the B team. The episode is available on Hulu. I didn't. I had no idea how much controversy that. I would cause. Look, I've said this before about all the kickoff shows that I've done and the feedback that people have had on those. And when I say feedback..

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Notsam Wrestling

03:22 min | 2 years ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

"I mean, I remember, you know, when I was when when jersey all pro was around, or or even, you know, right after that that like there was real war between promoters and not like like the type of war that like we can't do storylines here. Because there is we are trying to sabotage these other shows behind the scenes, we're trying to do a lot like when you go out there. And like you're going to other people who primarily do shows in the New York, New jersey, Connecticut Philly area. Are you kinda surprised that they're not like, oh, no your arrival promoted? We're not gonna we're not gonna put you on a show that they're like, no come do a great match. I think in jersey New York, we've got so used to people just running so much. We don't have a lot of that. But let's just say Pennsylvania Philly area. There's some of that going on. On there's some of that going on in the mid west right now the Chicago area when people are telling their performers you can't wrestle here. I just read that. Yeah. There's things there's things like that happening in you know, there's some New England. I'm aware of where you know, if you work one place, you may not work for the other is unfortunate, you know. And but there's also it's not so black and white where it's like all we should be allowed to work everywhere. And it's also not black and white where you know, the promoter should have the ability to to tell you what they want to tell you. But there's a way we can all work it out. Yeah. Early and not just be. But unfortunately, a lot of places don't think the way that I do or you know, because because in a way when I first started I kind of thought that way with a lot of things not. So why get the the business end of it where you're like. Well, we're trying to get people even if it's not about, you know, being vindictive about another promotion there is that side where you're going what we're trying to get people to pay take. It's to see the people performing at these shows if you're performing it every other show in the area, you know, what good is it do if I put you on the poster if they just saw you a hundred percent in the same thing with storylines if you start someone on these. Really, you know, there's some great promotions out there. There's there's like a I w and Blackley pro and AWS there's all these a great place beyond all the stuff. They have a lot of great storylines. So if you can't commit to month after month because you're taking all these booking somewhere that does throw a wrench into their things. And a lot of times performer doesn't value that they don't put enough thought into Oman. I'm really affecting this promoters vision. So that becomes an issue. There also becomes an issue. I've ran into things before where you know, you run a show in the same night. And someone's like, hey, can I do both shows, and you gotta work your cart around where total on second match. They can go on innovation there. And I'm flexible with that. But I've noticed most places aren't as organized, and they may not be that becomes initially. And you take it out on the talent. And then more things happened. So, you know, independent wrestling is not perfect. It's still rough. It's still incredibly difficult to get out there. But you know, it it. It's just the way it is. It's it's unfortunate. Have you had any matches lately that you're like, oh man that was an incredible match. And then go I wish I'd die. Russell pro. There's been mad. So I'm learning. I'm just learning that every single independent. Wrestling promotion is different that every single crowd expects like there's some times where I went in. There's imaginative recently where I thought it was a good match told to hate saying tell a story when people say that. But like it just it why. Because I feel like it's so cliche. Tell stories. What does that mean? Right. You know, when people are like what we were trying to tell a story in the ring. What story was it? And then they can't tell you what the story was. Yeah. And work in someone's arm to me is that really a story you just right arm for a little bit..

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Notsam Wrestling

02:54 min | 2 years ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

"And he said, and I had never even heard of this position being thing that is one of his new roles in WWE is to come in for the paper views and just make sure the locker rooms where it should be. Wow. And just kind of be that that guy, I don't know of mentor, or motivator is whatever. But just kind of make sure that everybody's bathing themselves in such a way that the industry is in a place where where it's healthy for not only the people that are working in it now, but for the next several generations. Yeah, you gotta check the pulse of every locker you can have things that, you know, if you're not, you know, I know how to deal with a lot of conflict and wrestling because I've been through it as promoter as talent, whatever. So, you know, there could be issues it could be someone that doesn't want to I'm in locker room sometimes where they want wanna do. I don't see too much in the match, but they wanna squeeze in twenty five minutes worth of stuff into an eight minute thing. And that kills a show because I go over time. Then there's times where I meet guys don't wanna do anything in the ring. They don't even want to take a bump. And there there's just a way to kind of check the temperature of a locker room and make the cord different. You you don't want the first match you the same thing as a fourth match and figure out a way where you know, we can deliver the best product that we can. So having a position like that is just super important, man. Yeah. And you find too that maybe getting away from Russell pro and going into these other promotions in realizing that there's this big respect for you. It kind of lets, you know, like, oh, like what I've been doing is being noticed because kind of when you're when you're in your home base, and you don't necessarily you're not necessarily aware fully of the effect that it's having outside. Right. You stay in that wrestle Pro Bowl do and it's like, you're just working towards the next show working towards the neck show. And that mentality of the mentality. You had when you went through the first show and said. You know, people think I'm crazy for doing this kind of sticks with you until you get outside of it and go like, oh people really respect. What's happened here? They do. Well, the ones that pay attention to because there's a lot of locker rooms that go in and I can re- I see that the there's, you know, half the people are aware they'll talk to me about things there. I'm aware of most the talent. When when I when I get booked on a card, I know a lot of the guys in the locker room where their story where the come from where they're going, and I find that the people that I kind of know they're attentive, and they know about me, but there's also half locker room that that's their just their once a month. So I try to finally like minded people. And now that I'm out there. I'm actually trying to get there so much where magic going to bring in a lot more independent talents, wrestle pro. And then also I can compare I tell my locker room, I go pay. This is where we're better. And this is where we're worse. So I kind of go, hey, I saw this at you know, CW or limitless. I saw this at different places. And I think they do this lot better than us where we need to improve. Or it could be like, hey. You guys are doing a great job. Just so, you know, it's not the same out there. But don't stop doing that. We're used to prize, and I say CCW's because you brought it up but say a season w or any promotion like it that would you know?.

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Notsam Wrestling

03:12 min | 2 years ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

"So was there any panic? I know like and this is on such a lower scale. But when I'm doing my live shows my life podcast and whatnot. I love doing the show. I hate putting them together because I have ticket anxiety for like weeks leading up to it. It's on my Blake. It's just somewhere in my bra. Rain at all times, especially when I don't even ask what the pre sales are. And then they'll Email and say like, hey think he'd go and do a little more promotion because the ticket sales are this. And I go, oh, it's even lower than I've thought and it always ends up. Fine. Get that's the people come to the door and people like I've never had a show where look at into the audience, and I'm like, oh, this is even every show. I've ever done has been like, oh, this think this is so much better than I thought. But did you have any moments of panic for this show when you're looking at the pre sale? Oh god. Yeah. Because I remember early on, you know, I'm I'm an optimist, but I'm a realist, and my my Booker KM is an over optimistic the point where he's like if we sell out this billing, the gate is like three hundred and thirteen thousand dollars. I'm like, yeah. I don't think they're going to get there by you know, let's let's hope and we set these goals because we've been promoting the show for about eight months. So we're like, okay. Maybe by January three months before the show, maybe will be like fifteen hundred tickets. And we were really at like four. So it's like an animal ahead of Mike. Do I pull the plug? Do. I move over for this. But then part of it if you have if you're running your own thing, and you said the exact same way is there's overly there's always going to be this, overly panic. And then when it happens, you're like, okay it worked out. So I just kind of have to trust in that. And it's like, but I also prepare myself. I always think what's the worst case scenario, and I go, okay that's going to happen. I'm gonna lose this amount of money. So I convinced myself that this is going to happen. And then when it slowly starts getting away from that, I go, okay. Thank god. It's kind of it's over preparation. We could have done away better job. I think we did a really good job and it worked out, but you know, if it would have been a loss, I still would have probably looked at as a success. But luckily, it was somewhat of a financial success. Right. And all you, really. I mean as long as you're not losing money. It's worth doing. I mean, the the idea that you guys are running Alaska has a value in and of itself. Now, I think I think the big. Thing is and I wanna prove myself. There's a lot of other companies out there side of debris that they they may not be doing so well and their budgets may be over inflated. And I think it's kind of alarming and also rewarding that to Gebran wrestlers from New Jersey put together this and put on a profitable show bringing up all their own local talent mixed with a hall of Famer miss with TV talent to Alaska and can turn profit. Why can't other companies do this? Yeah. Know what I mean? Like, so that's kind of there's so many companies out there that have this good exposure, they have a network or they have things behind them. And I guarantee they're looking at their budgets and show after show they're losing money. And it's it's something's wrong with that. So I think what I wanted to prove was that. If you have the right people in charge of things wrestling can be booming and big business. But most the time is not it's not happening..

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Notsam Wrestling

02:47 min | 2 years ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

"There. We flew them out we paid for their hotels. We paid for their. That's nuts. It was nuts. And it was very scary to go. And that's not. I mean, you would know better than me. But I am I feel like that's very atypical that have promotion would decide. Okay. We're going to run in Alaska, and then fly their regulars up and post them up in hotels like that doesn't happen, right? It doesn't have even for me. Now, I love being out there in the scene. I realized I gotta get myself to a lot of places because it not that promoters are cheap. They're not. It's just there's no money from it. The cost is crazy. But I would also imagine that your guys number one that bills like crazy. It's gotta build insane. Loyalty to the brand of wrestle pro from the guys as if they didn't have a before they're like, oh because you know, it's it's about from what what's happening at the top. Because that's what really rolls down. And the fact I think. I would imagine if I'm a local wrestle pro regular, and I don't really have these opportunities and Mike influence Alaska anywhere by anyone. But I'm like, you know, what I'm I'm down for Russell pro. And then I find out that you are not only booking Alaska. But you're like I want the rest of pro regulars there so much. So that I'm flying you guys. And I'm putting you up in hotels, and I'm doing this to me that makes me go. I'm gonna bust my ass for wrestle pro. This guy believes in this much. He's treating me like a star. All of a sudden. Yeah, I'm gonna go out there. And I'm gonna be a star for him right to be honest thought of it that way. But I I guess that is true. I would hope so anyway, I just looked at it. Like, I looked at these guys that they deliver on my shows, and they just haven't had the platform to really have light shine upon when the light shine upon them. They'll they'll accelerate they'll rise. But I knew that it was just important to have our brand of guys up there. Because if this does become a regular thing, which we are gonna run Alaska again is that? They have to be familiar with our talent they can't walk in and just expect will what what's going to be the hodgepodge of whatever I bring up there. Let's see these guys that we saw really kick butt last time, and and get them over and long-term for wrestle Brel even on a local level. It's one thing to say. Oh, Pat, the guy who promotes these shows also promoted a show in Alaska. It's another thing to say, no this brand that we watch enrolling New Jersey. Those the brand that guys the everything took that show to Alaska it makes it feel like a promotion. Yeah. No, exactly. It's exactly it. And it was it was scary. But you know, I'm pretty open with things we had a seven thousand seat arena. I knew we weren't gonna fill it ticket sales were, and we we had thirteen hundred people there, so you know, for the highest tentative and Iran was like sixteen hundred. So that's the thing is there is at thirteen hundred people in Alaska when you compare costs and all these different things to New York..

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"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

Notsam Wrestling

03:02 min | 2 years ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

"He is the buzz killer. He is Pat buck, Pat, what's the hap Smolin lodge changes? I've been been here less time. So I think we have a lot to talk about and Alaska's probably most interesting thing, I could talk about it, surely the. Recent thing, right. Yeah. I just got off the plane yesterday. So I mean, it was pretty not. So I heard of course, you know, wrestle pro is kind of the little company that could it's your it's your, you know, and we talked about it when you kinda were first starting wrestle pro. That was your way of going. You know, it looks like I'm not getting a ton of opportunities in the world of wrestling to make a time living. So you got to this point where it was either invest everything and just go for it and do wrestle pro and create a pro and create create this thing that can make a fulltime living or go and do something else in and this thing is paid off for you huge to the point that like a couple months ago. I started seeing stuff online that you were like, you know, nobody's really done an independent wrestling show in Alaska. I should be that guy kind of yet. That's exactly right with the whole how I started promoting and switch from being a wrestler guide to promoter Booker trainer guy. It was part of it was for survival. Where it was like, hey, I can stay in this when I left early when I let FCW or early next he would ever want to call it. I went back to the independent scene. And at that time, it was two thousand twelve I don't think it was the animal that it is today. And I was wrestling for a lot of places that were not rewarding. I couldn't you know. I had no incoming off of FCW in two thousand twelve is certainly not coming off of annex t in two thousand nineteen sure. Like, it's two different every the whole world. I mean, it's so weird that two thousand twelve is really not that long ago. But the whole wrestling world was a completely different space. Everything has changed everything. It's changed from three years ago to be honest. So at that time, I went sort of wrestling for a lot of places, and I didn't have a lot of input. I wasn't really happy with you know, I love being in. The ring, but there's so many, you know, this is a wrestler in in any business that that the entering parts of fun fun stuff. But everything else was just a drag. And I said, I don't know where my career is going to go. So let me try to put on one show and one show turned into. I think a hundred and eighty right now, busy, they like that's so interesting because you go, you know, everything that's not in ring is such a drag. How do I control the stuff? That's not in ring. I kinda got to be the guy in charge. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So at least I can well, I just kept, you know, for those people that are actually start their own thing or thinking about it. You you have these thoughts like men, I think I can do this a little bit better. And I started having those thoughts, you know, I hate to be somewhat arrogant, but sitting in Lovie w locker room for so long after his wrestling, a four five minute match on TV and having all that time. And I'd be like, I think this would be a lot better, and it would never speak up about it. But all these thoughts over the years and all these different locker rooms, I went, you know, what let me stop thinking about it. Let me just try it. So that led to you know, the first show, and then people that are..

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Notsam Wrestling

03:06 min | 2 years ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Notsam Wrestling

"Not Sam wrestling, Pat. Buck was my co host and added a major major perspective on that whole thing. But Pat started I mean, he's a wrestler by trade, and he still wrestles super super actively for a lot of different promotions, especially here on the east coast. But pat. He runs a company here on the east, call wrestle pro. And he started you know, he was in WWE's developmental territory. I think Ohio valley way back when and it just didn't pan out for him. And he went knee went on the independence. And it was it was going. Okay. But it didn't quite have that own f- that he thought it needed to have any ended up starting his own promotion. He's also he runs creative pro alongside curt Hawkins, it's their school. But even before that he was running a school there in New Jersey. And I think it's been amazing to watch this guy go because not only has Russell pro been super successful as a local promotion here on the east coast. They had a couple of big big shows over wrestlemainia weekend. They do a lot of business with impact wrestling a lot of talent gets exchanged over there. Wrestle pro is where KM Kevin Matthews came. From Russell pros where followed by came from m j f who's been on the podcast and just sign. Into all elite was trained at create a pro and came from Russell pro tons of guys tons of guys have come through those doors, but I was really really interested. Because Pat made the announcement few months ago that wrestle pro was going to run Alaska now, I didn't know wrestle pro to run anywhere outside the east coast. So for them to just make the big announcement. Hey, we're going to Alaskan. We're bringing Mick Foley with us. I was kind of mind blown by the whole thing. But the show went down this weekend. I was following along with it on several different, Twitter and Instagram accounts of wrestle pro and the people associated with Russell pro. And I just thought it was amazing. I thought it was an amazing thing for wrestling. And I thought it was an amazing thing for these guys to be able to take independent wrestling outside of the city of the town of the state that they're used to performing in and take it way up to the deep deep north Alaska. So literally just got off a plane this week. He just got. Home from this show. So I reached out to them right away. And I said, Pat, I would love to hear about your experience here on the podcast. And I think that the not Samsonite would be fascinated by the whole trip. So we're gonna get into all of it. We're going to get into Alaska. We're gonna get into what the what the what the crowd looked like in terms of how many people were there in terms of how they reacted. We'll talk to Pat about his wrestling career and a whole lot more my guest on not Sam wrestling this week is none other than the buzz killer, Pat, buck, let's get to it. Then not Sam wrestling interview back on not Sam wrestling fresh off of a trip to Alaska. He is the owner the head and a star of Russell pro..

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"pat buck" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast

Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast

01:56 min | 2 years ago

"pat buck" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast

"Everything you have was it purchased. Secondhand on EBay, whatever it is. We'll never know for sure. But there is some kind of insecurity, deep inside the mind of Long Island is e that makes it so wherever he goes you will follow him, whether you know, it or not I'm sitting there this week, curt Hawkins and Zack Ryder. They do this fantastic. Toy drive there. It create a pro which is the school run by curt Hawkins, and my friend, Pat buck, and they they do a toy drive that they've been advertising on their podcasts for a few weeks now, and they ended up getting something like almost three thousand toys, they got like twenty five hundred figures for kids in need. So that it Christmas kids that may not have presence normally would be able to have brand new wrestling figures under the tree now, I was going to donate. But as we all know every figure in my collection is, you know, it's missing paint. It's missing a finger. It's it's garbage. You know, it's garbage collection. So what was I going to donate? Right. Actually, I was thinking to myself like I was planning on going up there, and I turn on beyond the mat the night before. And I was I was inspired by Dennis stamp, and he's sitting there and he's talking to Terry funk. And I looked at Terry funk like he was curt Hawkins and curt Hawkins was coming up. And he was going Sam Sam I want you to be there. I want you to be there. And I said well, Kurt. I'm not booked Kurt. You told me I wasn't booked. And now I've got other plans and curt Hawkins was sitting there going. We'll we'll see him. I want you to be there. We come. We be there. And I'll go Hawkins wasn't booked. I wasn't booked. I got other plans. Now, we never got to the point where Hawkins would go. Well, how about if I let you referee? How about if I let you referee the main event? I didn't get to the place where I could say I'd rather work the main event than breathe..

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"pat buck" Discussed on The Steve Austin Show - Unleashed!

The Steve Austin Show - Unleashed!

03:33 min | 2 years ago

"pat buck" Discussed on The Steve Austin Show - Unleashed!

"I didn't know that they were experienced because when it first started thinking and that was curt Hawkins, I think it was his gimmick name before I got to curt Hawkins. But anyway, I was like, who are these guys? I've never heard of him. Then started researching their background, said, holy. Shit. These guys are real workers. These guys been around. So how did you take? Let's go back to the question. What did open grill stuff kind of consist of. I mean, here's the thing. Okay. My first day in it was me and Pat buck. That was my first day training and right off the whip. He could tell it was a top tier athlete. I mean, I was blowing all these guys have already been there for a year totally out of the water, duh. We were going to the bump, drill killing it, lockup killing it. You know what? Screw it. Let's do up and overs killing it. So I mean pretty much since day one, I was an absolute prodigy and that's me being humble, Steve, I'm not gonna lie to you which by the way, people call me humble all the time, and I really do appreciate it. But sometimes I have to explain to you the viewers listeners. Just how great I am, you know? And yet since day one, really it was easy stuff but but day one, it was. Learn how to bump lockups and I and I did do overs in the class. They pretty much they threw me right in which I think was incredibly beneficial because sometimes I feel like I've gone, I've checked out other schools. Sometimes I feel like if you on day one are just learning one thing and you do that for months while it's gonna make that one thing. Great. Sometimes I think it's good to be thrown into the lion's den and just learn on the fly and try to and try to get to everybody else's level. You know. And honestly, I cannot think of a better school in the Tri state area. Like if you if you live in the tristate area and you don't go to create a pro, you're nuts. These guys are so good patent Brian. So good. Now earlier in the podcast I called you max. Okay. Are you cooling mccone. You match? Because I didn't clear that with, you know, I've got, you know, obviously I am stone cold, Steve Austin. I left a pretty decent market and business. I'm not gonna sit in blow smoke. In my mom, but it is what it is you do you mind if call you max, Steve? I'm going to let it slide. Okay. Because we're in your home working with me, but just to clarify, if you see me out on the streets and you say Jacob frame, I will level you notch. I work with that. All right, but anyway, back to it. So was it what you expected? It would be. I mean, the and this is this is serious. There's an absolute shoot. The second I walked into the ring. I felt like I was at home. I don't know if he felt the same way the first day of training. But the second I stepped in the ring. I was like, God damn it. I feel like I'm supposed to be here. I feel like I meant to be here. I did feel that too. I wasn't as a natural as you were knowing only things that I could expect to be. But the only thing that I wasn't Angela that was just tacking those robes hitting those robes, and you'll make Mick Foley tells a story. There used to be a like a cave fehb section. Wish some fencing in front of we call that the crow's nest and when guys would a we work on fry. Tonight and Saturday morning, you know, that's where the family would watch from either the wives and girlfriends. That's what they would work from. And so you know, he got to the town early, you know, he'd been coming in back and forth from Tennessee. So he was caved up crow's nest that was after the Saturday show, he would just kill in tan any notice this one kid out there with loan blonde hair with pretty good physique. Just hitting the road like a maniac heart, and he said that guy has a future in this business. It turns out he was. He was right?.

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