20 Episode results for "Pat Brennan"

5-20-2020 Lance with Pat Brennan

Lance McAlister

13:32 min | 11 months ago

5-20-2020 Lance with Pat Brennan

"Seven, thirty eight seven hundred wwl W sportstalk carrier sports dot presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Arnelle carriers global transportation. Provider visit our LLC DOT COM and Kelsey. chevrolets open for sales and service, and they've got a new state of Eric. Collision, repair center coming in July coming up top of the hour, the tenth anniversary ten years ago tonight, some thirteen thousand US bank arena is the Cincinnati cyclones captured the Kelly Cup we'll talk with their play by play voice, John, Hamill, and then the head coach, Chuck Weber who won to Kelly cups in his four years here in Cincinnati. He's actually here in Cincinnati has been here for. For a while the story behind that coming up just after eight o'clock news, but the story of the day is related to FC Cincinnati. The announcement of the official hiring of Yop stom- today as the club's new head coach will be formally introduced on a online video call tomorrow morning at ten am is forty seven years old the the resume impressive and here to shed more light on that and talk. See Cincinnati has been way too long and I'm very excited to welcome in from the Enquirer Cincinnati, dot com. He is all over all things FC Cincinnati. That would be Pat Brennan how are you? Land some grey. Your introduction is entirely too kind. It has been too long what it is great to It is great especially in these times always been. Am I correct first things I. Am I correct in the pronunciation? Yup stom- Yup. Got It you may now to me that you you're the. You're the expert, so I defer to you, but this isn't some just ordinary joe hiring. This is a significant big time hiring. Is it not? Yeah this is one lance that would have turned heads across the globe today, and maybe tomorrow is the new cycle Kinda circulates for the eastern part of the world, but This is a guy that was a starter on arguably. The Best Club soccer team and Manchester United during their ninety eight ninety nine season one of the best club soccer teams in the modern era and he wasn't just. There for the ride. He was a key player. He was a starter and He's playing career alone. makes him someone that is globally noteworthy I think in in the global soccer community, and then he's had some. This is his first coaching job. I think it's fair to say. He's had mixed success, but he's had mixed success. In some of the toughest most competitive leagues in the world did pretty well for himself in the second division in England, which some people argue including myself is not the most skillful league in the world, but the one of one of the toughest, if not the toughest leagues in the world, because you're fighting to get into that English premier. So. He did really well one season when he was managing a club called reading F C in that second division in England so Yeah, this is this, is he was he was considered? One of the one of it's not the best defender in the game in his era, which is not that long ago? So this is a modern player. As you said, he's only forty seven years old and Yeah, this one turned heads all over the globe today. The other thing that jumps out to me. There are some guys with the big name who will just ride on their big name to me I. I look at the resume and I see player I see he spent. Some time is a scalp. He was an assistant. He's been the top guy that's. That's a well rounded resume that to me jumps out. Is that fair? Yeah one hundred percent I mean Lance. I'm going to see this in the news release, but. He had a coaching stint for a an academy team at all be a academy for one of the biggest soccer clubs in the world, so I'm sure that team was quite prominent in its you know age division, and for its among its peers, but he was a youth coach. You know and he and he talks that. He's proud of his professional development. So yeah, this is this is a guy who did not just kind of appear at the top levels of the game because of his big name his playing days, he really I think put his put his nose to the grindstone. And works his way up and to be named obviously to be named head coach just. Cincinnati, he would've earned that, but he's. He's I. Think it's definitely fair to say he. He is He's earned everything. He's gotten in the in the coaching. Aspect of his career and that includes his job today and I also think it's important to note he hasn't. He hasn't used his name kind of in the same vein. Lancia hasn't used his name to try to get into like one of these huge huge global giant soccer clubs. They've all been like you know reading FC. Household name in these in this part of the world and You know even the quote Unquote Big Club. He coached in the Netherlands, that was a great accomplishment in that country, but these aren't necessarily global brands so I think he takes on attainable jobs and He's good at them, so they're to me. That's exists. The also knows. Maybe maybe he knows his limitations as well and knows what he's capable of succeeding at which is you know that might sound? Simplistic, but some people don't have that self awareness in the game. Pat Brennan checking in from the ACQUIRE CINCINNATI DOT COM talking about FC Cincinnati. Then out of the clubs new head coach today he'll be official introduced to the media tomorrow. We'll see him on zoom tomorrow win. Here's the big question. When might he actually be here and able to get hands on with his new club? Through really good question, my answer to you is I. Don't have a firm answer on that yet, but when you look at. The situation with the pandemic and some of the government rules and regulations closed borders He's GonNa, be facing i. mean let me let me I. Mean That's all part of this right now and I've heard some people suggest today that become. Maybe they announced the higher now because they found a window or some way to get him into the country, so they can start the immigration process if that's true great I, don't I have to think probably not the case just because how serious. The damage is being treated and most of the world lands so I think that You Know I. Challenge. I can tell I could tell him every answer. Just to put this. Put It in perspective, you know. There were three players three new players that have Cincinnati acquired in the off season, and who they are exactly, it doesn't really matter and people will. Your Cardio was one Adrian Peterson. FC Cincinnati was all. It's not just FC Cincinnati clubs rather less or having Longer than usual they were dealing with longer than usual processing times and Thailand the immigration process just be. You know this isn't a political comment about I. think it's was largely seen just because of the regime. That's. Running our country right now, lance and that is what is was. Immigration was already a longer process than some of these clubs were accustomed to, and that was before the Pantheon. Okay so now you have. The pandemic forms closed not just here, but in the places where you know in in the part of the world where Yup is coming from to. if like, if if like people, your is today if there's a window and a way to get him in now to start the process, awesome I'm not aware of it. That's possible at this time, so it could be a while, and it could be a situation. You know it's Kinda doubly concerning because it seems like mls has thrown all its eggs into this Orlando. Plan that some people have talked about relocating all the teams to Orlando to resume practice like real practice, and maybe some form of competitive games, and if that planning gets off the ground lands, it could start as early as June though we're talking less than two weeks out from that, so it's hard to imagine yourself being able to work. In the full managerial capacity, even in the best of circumstances, just considering the time line, he might be up against, so it could be a while but I think that's Cincinnati just like they said when they set out on this head coaching search, you know this is not about a short term, fix? This is a look. This is about plan for their future so I think they have an eye to twenty twenty one as much maybe more as they do. Have they have an IDA twenty twenty here now Pat Brennan checking in from the choir since a dot, com speaking plans for the future, any sense of what the future now might hold for current interim coach, Yawn, demet. Bringing the heat tonight lane. Really good question. I asked You I asked her about that last week at the time and had been broached with. These systems in the club I would assume some sort of progress towards some in has been made in the week since that interview took place with your own I camp, general manager But it's A. It's a really interesting situation now because you'll on his being a team player, a club first metality put Cincinnati. You know number one of the priority list seemingly every situation he's been confronted with. Guided the team through a really ugly periods. That really wasn't. Any. He really can't take too much blame for what happened on the field last year, and yet he chose to preside over it as interim head coach and. took some bumps and scrapes. That came with that so. That's. Really value this guy you talk about prospects you know on the playing side, but this was a prospect for the coaching side and someone. They WANNA develop. You know. I time is passed and she's been. Essentially you know the really. Blunt way to say he's been looked. He's been passed over for the. Now. In the meantime he's up a heck of a little resume from himself so. I don't know that he wouldn't have options elsewhere. My guess is His inclination would be to want to stay around with Cincinnati, but I think you had some saying that, too. Because just like in baseball and football in soccer you want to, it's it's not it's. It doesn't mean you don't want isn't trustworthy. You're a bad guy. He. Just Yup might want him to leave. Just because up doesn't own, and it's as simple as that and he wants to bring in his guys. He's already bringing in. Eddie off just might want to have his beat surrounded by those guys. And that's that's that's. That's a fair. Who had coach in any country in. The world so to determined about Yawn May I. Think Se Cincinnati thrilled to find a way to keep him around I. THINK HE WANNA. Be around, but Yeah, this is a little bit different then when Ron is hired and. Yuan was touted as maybe the next generation of head coach Craftsy Cincinnati, because who rod really quickly. The next generation is here. And now I think the the distant future. Maybe maybe isn't quite as clear for you on today. As it was yesterday, great catching up with you got one more for you got about a minute, so do a Do a reset for us. If you consider I know, we were a couple of games into this thing when things were shut down, but from a roster standpoint, the additions locadia and others now a GM, in place coach in place is your sense that this club is on a solid path with a map that is taking them in the right direction. Yeah absolutely I think they've got a lot of the right. They've got more of the right players in place they definitely have the general manager and place, and he's been able to use his direct networks have put some other things in place, both in terms of players now choice with the head coach, and hopefully this one goes better than last time, but there's a clear. Clear plan I thought I'd see Cincinnati already. Light years ahead of where they were in terms of the play in the first two games to sustain the plug was. When it was, but I think I think without question this strange moving in the right direction lance. Hey, it is so cool to talk talk. FC Cincinnati with the appreciate your making the time good to hear your voice stay safe and talk again soon. Absolutely thanks so much talk to you again. He is Pat Brennan from inquiries on Twitter P. Brennan e n Q p Brennan Espn Cue that of course at p Brennan, he and q take a timeout continue sports. Talk Seven hundred WWL W.

Cincinnati Pat Brennan soccer Lance official Craftsy Cincinnati Kelsey Chevrolet Arnelle DOT COM general manager US Chuck Weber Yop stom Lancia Adrian Peterson Eric interim head England Kelly Cup joe
5-20-2020 Lance with Eric Koch

Lance McAlister

07:32 min | 11 months ago

5-20-2020 Lance with Eric Koch

"And. The following takes place between seven PM and eight PM. All right. We're rolling seventy eight already seven hundred wwl W sportstalk till nine gamble infants abrupt the reality. Check at that point later on in this hour Pat Brennan from the inquire talks a little FC. Cincinnati coming up in the eight o'clock hour. It's Tonight is the ten year anniversary of the cyclones winning the Kelly. Cup that was their second in three years. We'll. We'll talk with the voice of the cyclones at the time. John Hamill. We'll talk with the coach of the cyclones. At the time. Chuck Weber they'll check in at Eight, Oh five eight twenty, and then Doug. Flynn the glue at eight thirty five tonight I happened to notice. Today is the anniversary of his first Major League home run imagine being twenty four years old. Old playing for the big red machine in nineteen, seventy five. You get to replace Joe. Morgan in the seventh in your parents are in the stands, and you get your first major league home run. I dropped Doug. Flynn note on facebook today. And he said sure I'll come on, so he's coming on at eight thirty six tonight to talk about that moment, so we are. Are loaded up between now and nine o'clock alright excited to get with our next guest, because I watched Fox nineteen in a story that the routed and I said all right. I've got to talk with him. Because this is clearly like sweeping the tri-state, it is Joe Borough Jersey. Mania, that has unfolding the search for the number nine Joe Borough Jersey and who better. Than the epicenter of it all the iconic cook sporting goods on fourth fourth street downtown. Let's welcome in. Eric Cook. Eric Lance McAlister. How are you? I'm doing great. How're you doing tonight? I am very well and I'm glad you could spend a few minutes. Take take me back Joe. Borough was drafted April twenty third. How would you describe the demand for the Joe Borough Jersey since that night? Well to be honest with you. It started about a week before that we were taking pre orders for these and really didn't know what we were getting ourselves into. We ordered a couple of hundred thinking well. We older, too many of these. Are People really going to be buying into this? You know, and then you know we we. We were closed down for. For a couple of weeks we opened up last Tuesday morning and it was like Christmas morning. We had twenty boxes or burrow jerseys waiting for us, and by Wednesday, they were just about all gone bad. Oh, man, I think everybody's frame of reference is back to Curson Palmer D. do you have a rely recollection of anything like this when Carson was drafted? Not even close you know Carson with heisman. Trophy winner first round pick but he wasn't Jodhpur. Phenomenon either I don't really understand it fully, but the build up around Joe Burrell compared to Carson Palmer. It's night and day for real media is much much bigger so as you mentioned you are now. You're open right now. Is that correct? We are yes. We opened our doors. Turn the life back on last Tuesday morning we have all the faith measures in place by the glass masks are required by anybody coming in, so we've been having walking customers as of last week. Yeah, do you? Do you have the borough jerseys in stock or do you have to order them at this point? We're still okay if you have if you're three XL. Your toddler or a youth size? We have those in stock still every other size. He ran out of like I, said before, probably in a day or so we went through a couple of hundred, so we actually have more on order. They are telling us at Nike that we should expect him hopefully by the middle of June or give me an idea of what say for an adult size something that I would wear. What is the cost of Joe? Joe Borough Jersey there eighty, nine, ninety nine. There's three different Nike Jerseys if they make. This is the cheaper of the three and really nice. He's had a manufacturing issue. Because of covid nineteen, it had to shut down a lot of their capabilities where they make these jerseys so really there only able to do the cheaper one four now. They told us during the season. They should have more hopefully. Knock on wood. capabilities to make all the others. I just checked my twitter feed, and I have a question from listener. Only one of my listeners can have this question I will toss it to you. You see Chris wants to know. He has a Curson Palmer Jersey. Can he bring it in? Have you strip the Palmer off in so borough in yesterday? I had a feeling that might come up. Yes we have done that before. We can certainly do advertising. Get in touch with us. you know the great things about the Bengals they love recycling numbers? You know from Rudy Daunton et Cetera then Jeremy Hill That might be more of a cost effective way of doing the The burgers even buying a new one. Absolutely talking about Joe Borough Jersey Mania, that is unfolding were at the epicenter of all of it with Eric Cook from Cook. Sporting goods on Fourth Street downtown. Let me let me switch over to the reds. For a second. They had built up so much momentum in the offseason with so many signings did that translate into reds? Fans wanting reds jerseys this off season. You know I have a feeling it would. That's one of the negative things, and of course we have to keep everything perspective with everything going on in the world, but we were really looking forward to a bigger red season than we've had in a Lotta years, and because we were shut down for a couple of months, we haven't seen it. you know which is a shame, but again I think whenever they start to play ball again. I think there will be that excitement again. So I think everybody in the city is open for that question related to the Regin Shogo Akiyama. If someone wants to show Jersey, does the back have shogo or does it have Akiyama? Well hockey on. Current, store, not. You can go the other way, too. That's beautiful I. Love the flexibility. I've also always struck by this and I saw this when I went to your website again today. You guys have been around this true. You guys have been around since eighteen eighty eight. That is correct, actually myself. My Cousin Ryan Cutting Kathy where the fifth generation we're all working there now, so we've been around for a while, not always selling sporting goods, but but you know I think we started with theater curtains and things like that and how a bit over the years yeah. What for those listening, who who want more about the Borough Jersey WanNa look online. What's your website? WWW DOT cook sports dot com Cookie Spelled Funky K. O. C. H. S. P. O. R.. T. S. Cook School Dot Com. Hey, it is a great catching up I appreciate the insight and best of luck going forward. Thanks thanks Eric there. You Go Eric Cook Cook Sporting Goods Fourth Street downtown. They can't keep them in. Everybody wants a Joe Borough Jersey. Talking with. Casey, earlier today about jerseys he has purchased. We've purchased or him birthdays Christmas. A you name it over the years and the luck. He has had with the players who he's got the Jersey of then being traded or leaving free agency. Can put together a really lengthy list. All right, Pat Brennan fills us in on the new FC FC Cincinnati coach coming up at seven thirty six will continue though it's Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Arnelle, carriers your Global Transportation Provider visit our LLC DOT COM and Kelsey Chevrolet Open for sales and service with a new state of the Art Collision Repair Center coming in July seven hundred WWL W.

Joe Borough Jersey Eric Cook Joe Carson Palmer Joe Borough Jersey Pat Brennan Borough Jersey Wan Cincinnati Curson Palmer Jersey T. S. Cook School Dot Com Flynn Doug Joe Burrell Eric Lance McAlister Curson Palmer Kelsey Chevrolet John Hamill Chuck Weber
Mo Egger with Pat Brennan

Mo Egger

13:27 min | 13 hrs ago

Mo Egger with Pat Brennan

"Pig day for us. Yesterday it was announced that Fc cincinnati is back on its original radio right here. Espn fifteen thirty just in time for the season to begin tomorrow night fc. Cincinnati on the road for the first three row tilts before they christened the new stadium at nashville tomorrow evening. E kirti right here on. Espn fifteen thirty in all year. Long covering the orange and blue with no. Peer is our buddy of pat brennan. He has done season preview. It's available at cincinnati dot com as a as well as on twitter at p. e. n. q. And always good to come on with us. It's nice to have you how are you. I'm doing really well. It's great to talk to you again. Man socrates in cincinnati degrade. There's there's some. I detect among most fc. Cincinnati fans cautious optimism based on. What has been a busy off season of all the offseason developments for this club. What was the most significant. That's a great question. I could go a lot of directions there. I think the easy answer is probably the obvious. Answer is Brenner sousa silva young twenty one year old brazilian that they paid significant money to bring in to be kind of the guy offensively for fc cincinnati if that signing pans the way even a little bit the way people hope and expect it will Fc cincinnati will just be head and shoulders above what it has been. Its first two years in mls. Smell goal scoring the first two years and mls. Needless to say has been an issue. How much based on what they've done this offseason has that been rectified. i think a significant amount and i'm saying that without having seen too too much of them in person with my own two is really hard to evaluate right. And that's just that's just. That's just a symptom of the pandemic. I you know it's been talked about a lot media accession the pandemic sports teams. I personally don't begrudge anyone over that but it has made my job harder and even with that you know considering for the lack of games. I've seen this play a team. This team play and that i haven't seen them kick a ball in person with my own. Two is what i have seen. And certainly what i've heard And i am willing to trust the organization on a lot of what i've heard is that the offense is just significantly significantly improved. Because you like a lot. Sports like basketball are sixers. Our next mo- guys that came. You need guys that can put it in the whole but you need facilitators to get it to the guys who are going to score the ball right so actually he. Cincinnati has never really had The one thing they definitely lacked in addition to goal scoring is that game changing facilitator and they went out and acquired a guy Highly touted internationally as actually played a fair amount of his time and mls is is chino acosta and he plays a very critical kind of transitional position To put it in layman's terms and he is going to be the acilitator this year for guys like brennan lie just mentioned and you're gonna khadijeh for however much longer he's here and everyone else that is going to be You know. I don't have to be at every practice session to know that having that guy having a competent player at that position is it's just going to change things enormously because this team. This is a club that two years ago allowed a record number of goals in major league soccer last year they had seven cone clean sheets. That's the correct term. That's seven clean sheets. got a guy. 'cause i called him shutouts last. The guy got mad at me so they were better in that regard. How much does that and part of that might have been style of play and we talked about that often. Last part of that might have been style of life but how much of that can carry over. How much of that improvement can carry over and even be built upon this year. That's actually one of the areas. Where a little bit concerned about this team oh They had some key players including kendall watson kind of big bruising hulking center defender kind of in the middle of the defense He's no longer with the team. They also had a really nice player on the left. Wing named andrew gutman. He's no longer with this team. I think that the defense actually mo While that was a strength last year. And i think like twenty one verse twenty twenty one versus twenty nineteen se. Cincinnati still be a markedly improved from that initial team. That gave up a record amount of goals. Like you mentioned. But i actually. I my concern for this team is that they might regress a little bit defensively. They have some new faces back there They don't have quite the level of cohesion just in terms of continuity just in terms of guys that have played together. That are coming back to the same team And they're kind of peace mailing it right now. They have some new centreback that they've acquired who's promising but he cut his teeth and the ecuadorian. First division. i don't know that that's great proving ground and. I don't know that anyone knows for sure that this guy is gonna translate to you. Know instant success in cincinnati so That's a big question. Mark for me. I think you know if the if the baseline that were judging them by is that twenty nineteen which i think. In in many cases that is the case small. This is still going to be a better defense more or less whether or not they can defend that the level that they defend it last year. I that's to be determined. There's a lot of A few question locks along that that back line so that's gonna be an interesting thing to watch tomorrow and well into the summer. Pat brennan covers fc cincinnati for the inquirer and cincinnati dot com and. He's on twitter at p brennan. Ian you mentioned the word continuity and you know go back fourteen fifteen months. We're dealing with a coaching change. That sort of that whole drama on very very quickly. They introduced a new coach. Wants the season had already started during the shutdown. And they they put your stom- in place before the tournament in orlando and it's just been a really chaotic last two two and a half years from a from a coaching standpoint. From a front office standpoint it does feel now though like they are structured at the front office and technical levels like an actual major league soccer franchise. I'm not sure i could have said that. At the beginning of the twenty nine thousand nine hundred. And i feel like i could say that now. That can't be anything but a good thing. Yeah it's a great thing. I think the job is Not just you know there was always a sense with alan koch and twenty nineteen and With our or excuse me not with gerard with ron. Before he was fired. I mean there was a sense. That was a temporary nature just a just an aura of temporary miss around their positions in the club and nothing was guaranteed well into the future for them and nothing's guaranteed to too far into the future free apps. Tom but you do get the sense that for the first time ever. They have a head coach in mls. That is the guy and he's been working in concert With general manager to bring in the kinds of players that he wants for his system. As you and i talked about in the past that players that suit this head coach that he likes that. He has familiarity with from other stops in his career And the war. That just comes to mind. They're like i already said continuity you know the head coach last year in preseason was able to work with the team and work with the general manager. Gerard camp to do the same thing. But then he went and got himself fired in mid-february so like you said right out of the gate just kind of chaos you have. The none of these things are lying. They either had the head coach but not the players that head coach wanted or the gm wasn't in and so on and so forth. It's just kind of all those pieces have been mixed and match since fc. Cincinnati came into mls. Now they're really all. They are more in alignment today than they have ever been. And i think that's going to breed a much. More success ultimately a much more successful onfield products for this organization. You've you've offered up a prediction for the season that's available in the piece you did for this morning. Cincinnati dot com. i'll send people to that But on top of that. I guess what i would want to know is what what what from. What from a win. Loss point standpoint constitutes a successful season for this club. That's a great asset. Really good question. Because while i said in the in the piece that you mentioned on dot com i expect fc cincinnati to finish Around eleventh place. I think it could be hard going early in the season. I three games on the road. All against really talented playoff teams from last year They could play really good soccer and lose all three of those games nine of the first fifteen road that in that sense i think the the deck is just stacked against fc cincinnati plus. They have all these new faces. I just don't think it looks great for them. The outlook in the first half of the season but You know i. I think they could get you know. If if they're in the area of look they on average and last shooter being kind of the outlier because they had ten teams and it was a pandemic shortened crazy season on average need about forty five to fifty points in the standings to qualify for that seventh and final playoff spot in the eastern conference since they went to seven teams I don't think fc cincinnati will be I don't think they're gonna cross that threshold obviously By virtue of my prediction finish and eleven place. I think they could get close to forty. I think they could be in the mid thirties. I think they could have eight or nine wins which would be almo- almost equal The amount that they've had over the first two seasons combined okay. So i'm not talking about a world-beating product this coming year I don't think too many people expect that to be the case. Although i think like you said people are cautiously optimistic and holding out. Hope that could happen. Not a lotta people expected but when you talk about this team being in in the realm of wins you throw in some ties there. And if they're in the mid thirties in terms of points and you know put some distance between themselves and the seller of that eastern conference where they've been absolutely trapped the last two years. That's that is a reasonably good return. If you're being fair yeah. Everyone wants to see in the playoffs. That's not necessarily realistic. That's that would take a big jump. That probably takes more than one off season. That's where i think they'll end up. Probably thirty five to forty points in the standings and Respectable formidable ultimately not a playoff team. And that's okay. that's okay. They were digging out of a big hole and they still are given me. I got forty five seconds. Here give me a quick review. The first home game in the new stadiums a month from today. Gimme gimme a forty five second review of the stadium. How the game stadium this It's it's fantastic. You know i. I was lucky enough to Tore the stadium with the players and it was the players. i tore. this happened on monday. So usually these guys are little too cool. you know. They don't like tip their hands emotionally at anytime on or off the field. But you could see through the hard hats and you know the surgical pandemic masks like they were really in all of the stadium. It's world class everyone. I i've been writing about it personal stuff. We have come down the line though. This stadium looks like it could be in london or amsterdam or just named the big european city where soccer is very rich in its history and very popular. That's what the west end stadium. Looks like and it's in cincinnati. It's just it's to be really cool with where things stand right now in the nba as eastern conference the knicks. Hold the six spot which means they would avoid the plan it. That is good news for you as a seventy sixers fan if they hold onto the first or second seed. 'cause you won't see them until the eastern conference finals comment on that. I don't don't want to touch the knicks with that with that. I think about where we both. We both take that. Wouldn't we catch. Are you kidding me. Take it gaining. Not responsible for what i would do. If if that were to be the kings. I appreciate it as always and we'll do it again soon. Thanks much thanks. Have a good on a pat brennan. Cincinnati dot com covers fc cincinnati. You'll hear the game live tomorrow night from nashville on. Espn fifteen thirty.

cincinnati Cincinnati pat brennan mls Brenner sousa silva Espn chino acosta khadijeh kendall watson andrew gutman soccer p brennan alan koch sixers twitter Gerard camp nashville layman brennan the inquirer
Sports Talk 5-20-2020

Lance McAlister

1:31:49 hr | 11 months ago

Sports Talk 5-20-2020

"In. This is the. Carriers Sports Talk. Presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Sports talk is brought to you by eighty door and window, and they sell the best end service the rest Trilogy Medical Services Trilogy Hss Dot Com Furniture Fair for style and flair grows. Greco's is the fun food company Delta Dental. We do dental better. Delta. Oh Dot. COM backslid tractor helping you grow, your. Business. Julius, HOW ASPHALT! Your satisfaction is their top priority skyline chili feeling good skyline time Robert Jones. Jones plumbing home of the world's friendliest plumbers, one hour, heating and cooling comfort is just a call away, Cincinnati a wishes to thank all of its healthcare heroes for caring for our nation's Heroes Kelsey, Chevrolet in Lawrenceburg Indiana from our family to your Fam- Papa John's pizza now offering no contact delivery, GonNa Papa John's dot com, and by RL carriers your global transportation provider. visit us at our LLC dot. COM Now sports talk on seven hundred wwl Jelly. Let's get to at six Oh nine seven hundred wwl wwl's sportstalk until nine o'clock tonight we are loaded up pack tonight. We have a lot of different guest on a lot of different subjects between now and nine o'clock, and then it's gambling fin with your reality check. Let's go straight out of the chute with early off hitter tonight, favorite of the show front of the show second. Second. Round pick of the reds back in nineteen, eighty managed for years in the reds, minor league system than the Yankees System whatever twenty one hundred games. He's in the International League Hall of fame. He went in at two thousand fourteen. He managed Your Cincinnati. Reds in two, thousand, three, two, thousand and five is always a pleasure to spend a few minutes with Dave. Miley how are you? My good friend. Good to hear your voice and me on. Argue well everybody good. Great what about you we're? We're hanging in. Their kids are going a little. Stir crazy, but we're good. I thought of you last night because you had sent a text in the middle of the show I had. I was talking with Rick Green last night, who made his Major League debut with the reds? In June of ninety nine, it was his only major league appearance. He pitched five and two thirds. Innings gave up three runs. He never got another shot in the major leagues. You Happen to be listening. You recommended the red sign him. You had him at Triple A.. You got to tell him he was coming up. What what do you remember about grade in that moment I'm tell you what he One of the best things about AAA managers you know televised debate leagues and he was. Granted access. We call the Minneapolis and also can. Be saw on Toledo Tigers, and then He was with the Milwaukee as his last year as a free agent and You know me and Buck always thought highly. Sudden reached out to To Jim Bodenham. News are indirectly time and they're recommended them. They signed him and did a job force and it was great that he got a chance to go. Especially, what Cincinnati boy as you said when you and you're probably so many stories over the years, but that moment when you're able to see the look on their face when you tell them, they are being called up. That's gotta be really cool. No doubt and I heard a little bit, and it gets to hold a conversation with him last night, but I. I do remember. when we told them on the road in Norfolk and evidently couldn't get a hold of his wife. Lady the BALLPARK and I. Looked at bucket. Grant Jackson Cohen. said. Well, thank you. She calling me for and then. You know I didn't want to tell her over the phone, but now she gave us. Rick. And it all worked out, but Yeah, that's definitely the best part of you know AAA stuff. You can talk to the guy that AAA manager You know having to release. Guys was the worst, but sending guys especially at first time like you. I remember Dan, balloons and guys like that of the world that they're going to the big leagues or something. To look on the face and. Coming through. You I earlier in the week. Ahead Eric Davis on the show. We were talking about the the decade the all decade team. The fans voted on. You you played with Eric all the way back in one thousand, nine, hundred one with you gene. You played within through the system, did did you? Could you see his his greatness unfolding as you were a teammate of his? Our I tell you what he? Probably wanted best athletes I have ever seen her plate with He. You know I don't know if they're told you. The originally signed shortstop and kind of like the Reggie Sanders story where. He made on how many areas and they moved in the Senate filled, and that was the year that that I the first year that I played in eighty one and. You know just the adjustment. He made out there I mean it just came so easy for them and You know like we talked to. It's probably been over the winter that last time I talked Eric but You know just he probably could have done anything. He wanted on high school. Basketball football didn't matter and Larry and was drafted him out of La and And you know that just tells you. How bad scouting back in the day. Before him! Side you mentioned Aaron. Boone and you had him with the reds, did you? Did you ever think that get the at the time? That guy could be a major league manager someday. What do you think of him? becoming a manager. Where you would, what is bloodline? You Know I. Never Given much thought that. That first of all aid money, getting that side of it and You know with the blood line with the. Grandfather Ray Boone and Bob and you know Brett playing, and all that kind of like the bell situation. Those guys! They were just around baseball so many times. Peres's guys like that. I thought Aaron did a terrific job. Obviously New York's not. That it's not the most easiest place to manage I'm sure but you know I think it helps them going into that espn side of it where you know the the communication and different things like that, but Aaron probably could have done anything. He wanted her baseball general manager, or whatever so very happy form talking little reds baseball with. The former reds manager member of the International League, Hall of Fame Whenever Twenty One hundred games in the minor leagues during his time. You also I forgot about this. I went back and it was looking this up. You had dion for about Twenty Game Stretch it Louisville in two thousand and one, and he was just odd, he'll almost four hundred for you and a twenty game stretch and got the call up. What was it like watching Dion? The baseball player right right He. You know we. We had a little past I guess it was around. I guess it was ninety three after after the Yankees and all that we were in Atlanta, and I got to talk to him for a long time, and hadn't seen him for a while and then Jim Jim signed him as a free agent and You Know He. He did twenty game stretch like he said he had most I. Remember about the is watching this guy go if it's not from first to third, but if ever watching them hit a triple, just amazing. But he I mean he had he had the tools and you know what he was able to do. On the football and baseball side of it and not miss a beat was. Just terrific, but he. Did you? Are you mentioned scouting and between nineteen, eighty, five and eighty six those Denver teams. You guys have Eric Davis Barry Larkin, Chris Sabo. Paulo Neo Rob Dibble. Some guy named Tracy Jones I duNno, whatever happened here, but. How about that collection of talented Denver in those years? Oh my gosh. Unbelievable they have you have just a physician players. At that time. and. That was one of 'em that I think we had five catches on that roster. At one time, it was alaniz nicely in and Keri McGrath and Joe Oliver Myself and getting anybody. Heck. Most time I got playing in catching I played who I believe. That's. The thing that you could be around. Just watch those guys that. They came in. You know like you said with Barry and. You know it was a lot of fun to watch and You know that was a that was a great summer. Those guys were very unique and it was great to watch him. Go on and help reg, do some. Great things and win the world series. What was it like as manager? The Cincinnati reds come to the ballpark every day and knowing you could write somebody like Sean Casey into the lineup. One of my favorites yeah. It was great. You know the toughest part. Probably. There was nothing about it I. Guess It was you know Bob who like I really had a lot of respect for is the one that that about doing was one that was fired when they brought me up as the interim at first, and we still had Aaron on the team, and just the way that Aaron handle it was you know it's something that I think about whenever you know when you brought up his name? That's the first thing he doesn't mind. It could have been you know could have been an awkward situation you know. We ended up trading them to the Yankees as a matter of fact and. I think that's the area that they. Run the beat the Red Sox gave a different. Governors. Out there you quick story whenever I would give him a day off? You know. He'd never shut up in the dugout and I'm like. I tell Jelly and and. You know mark various gadgets like this guy killing here. Anymore so in the National League on the double switches, so it'd be about the fifth or sixth anything like my kitchen change case gets you. Whatever and goes. Miles at that had the day off I. See man. Not Anymore okay. Out Danny Graves. That's That's beautiful. Hey, it is so great to hear voice I. I got such a big kick last night out of you text in the middle of the interview with. Rick, Green and It's it's good. We could hook up but I'm glad you're you're doing well and stay safe and opening. We can talk again soon all right. Pleasure you know, you can get a hold of me anytime. Buddy and hopefully we'll get through all this next time. Withdraw Cow, sit in the I'll be governed w and then sitting in the booth. Hey, that is a deal. Hey, thanks! They'd take care all right there. You Go Dave Miley. He's one of my favorites. Yeah, right in the middle of our interview last night with Rick Green. and Rick was talking about Dave and it was Dave who so I'm an recommended the red sign even and was pitching well at triple eight eight year in got the call and rick spoke glowingly of of Dave Dave sends me texts. Hey, say hi to him before he's he's done. Done still ahead, we'll talk. After the bottom of our. There is a new movie debuts here at a local drive in it Amelia on Friday it goes Friday Saturday Sunday. We will talk with one of the stars of that movie we. We talked with a Sycamore High School player. Who's in the movie last night tonight? We're GONNA talk with Matthew Modine. WHO HIS ROLE IN VISION? Question Nineteen Eighty Five I love that movie Big Fan of Matthew Modine will ask him about the movie chance and get caught up on some headlines as well as We get up and running six nineteen. Thanks for being here. It's Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W. Six, twenty seven seven hundred wwl wrol. Carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Lands, mcallister. Thanks for being here tonight. If you were here last night if you missed the rick, green, that's available in podcast form. Rick Green was a first round pick in the nineteen ninety-two drafted the Tigers taking sixteenth overall wound up in the red system, and in ninety nine was pitching well, and he got called up to the big leagues and he pitched. Pitched in one game in relief, five and two thirds innings three runs, and he was never heard from again. They rights had to send him back with the roster move. He never made it back to the big leagues and I asked him last night about making it to the big leagues pitching well in his one and only appearance, and then never getting another chance, the fact of getting to the to the big leagues far outweighed. Fact that I didn't have a long illustrious ten. Fully vested career. That's that's the bottom line Would I've liked to have ten years in the Big League? I would have liked to have a half a season in the big league, but when you look back at the fact that I'm only one of nineteen thousand, plus that have ever lived young boys, Dream, and played a sport like a game for my profession, and and made unbelievable friendships, and traveled the world to Cuba and Spain and Canada and just done a lot of. Of things that a lot of people have done I lived two or three life times already at forty nine years old, or even when I retired at thirty one that most people just don't get to do so talk about being extremely blessed and very very fortunate Lucky and proud and and just just a happy I was able to get there. Even for one game Rick Green last night on Sports Talk May, and now that was a that was good stuff last night. Easier Classic Cup of Coffee Story a guy who gets what opportunity then that's it but consider hundred and fifty plus years of baseball. Less than twenty thousand players have had a chance to play a major league game. He did it. He pitched well and the the perspective. Really really cool up next a tomorrow. Night is premier. The movie chance at Amelia. Amelia starlight drive in. It's a story. It's got a local story attached to it and we'll talk with Matthew Modine about that. He plays a youth baseball coach in the movie will tell you about the showings how you can get involved with it. As we continue gotta check news bodily are Arndale carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred WWL W. Six thirty eight seven hundred wwl W this sportstalk Arnelle carriers stock presented by Kelsey. Chevrolet I'm Lance McAlister tomorrow night. Is that Premiere of the movie? CHANCE AT AMELIA STARLIGHT drive in! It's a locally produced and film movie about. And teenage relationships and the effects of teen suicide. It's based on the true story of Chance Smith, who played for Flash Baseball in Brown county. The film was to open in thirty nine theaters in April, but the pandemic forced a change in plans showtime tomorrow night. Saturday and Sunday is eight forty five. Our next guest stars as the Youth Baseball Coach in the film. He's played roles in full metal jacket. Stranger things weeds Birdie any given Sunday. Sunday I'm a huge fan of his nineteen eighty-five movie vision quest and his role as high school wrestler Louden Swain. It is an honor to welcome in Matthew. Modine Matthew Lance McAlister. Welcome to sportstalk. Thank you so much for having me on a pleasure to be here. How did you become involved in a project like this well my daily, who runs that Flash Baseball? His wife is really good taste and she suggested that he hire me moving. And I read the script, and and it was just so terrific I love baseball, and and so really that's all they had to say. In the first couple of pages was that that it was about baseball and I was I was pretty much in could check give me an opportunity to put put on baseball uniform and go and spend some great quality time with with young athletes who who always teach me about like. It is a boy. It's A. It's a powerful story powerful message, isn't it? It really is and it just say it's based on a true story about a young chance. They grew up there and and. and I I. Don't know how how put it in words. You know that you and I did grow up in a in a time of texting, and it's one thing for you to say that somebody or you're an idiot, and I'm GonNa Kick Your Butt after school or something, but with with texting. When you, when you put it in writing and send it to somebody's phone, it has a different impact than than Than if if you say you know what I mean. You've actually put it in writing, and you've sent it to your personal device, your phone and and It it. It carries a greater weight than than the word used to when we were in school. So you change change? Suicide is a real. Problem and We all have to do what we can to try to provide opportunity and and resources for young people who find them, so we don't have somebody that can speak to them and help them through a dark period, Matthew. How much time did you spend here shooting the film? I feel like I was I was there for a couple of but I. think it was. It was probably the only about six weeks of you know a little bit of pre-production you know getting there and getting to know the kid and and kind of you know like what I call. Get in baseball shape. getting to know Mike Daily and and his family. And his son wrote the screenplay and His wife is in the film. Does wonderful job in the film and You know! I. I like to get there early and and kind of soak it up a little bit. You know to for those who haven't seen the trailer. You play the role of chances coach. You alluded to baseball. Are you a big baseball guy? I am A. New York Yankees Fan which probably make a lot of your local. They're upset, but Yeah Yankees Fan and and I I grew up in Utah. We have a professional baseball teams so I. had to pick a team and I picked the Yankees when I lived in Utah, and we moved to San Diego when I was in junior, high school and I kind of became a padres fan. They had some good years then and. But yeah. I'm I'm a Yankees Fan I love baseball. I did another baseball movie. That's really good about. Yes played for the Pittsburgh pirates and It was called the winning season was television film, and that one I actually got to play baseball, I went out and and went. Cal ripken is a friend. And I asked him if I could go play with his farm team for the. Orioles called the Iron Verge and. That was that was a tremendous experience. You know I was telling you off air. I had a chance last night in the show to talk with Jay Kertzman a sophomore more at Sycamore. High School plays on the baseball team. He plays twelve year old chance in the movie now. He told me tell me. You can confirm this. He said you helped him with acting in. He helped you with baseball true. Certainly did. Their, Special skills their clash BASEBA- and You know to get to get the players to stop thinking and and to react in a in a way that It's a longer conversation than we have time for now, but it's a great program, and he's come up in that flash baseball system and so There was some skills that I was unfamiliar with that that he and and all the other kids taught me. To be to be a little better baseball, player I, I have to admit that I in one, thousand, nine, hundred, five, I was nineteen years Old and vision quest is one of my favorite movies, and what I saw your name on the on the poster for for this I, said man. I wonder if we could hook up with him on sports talk. Could you take me back to that experience? What was doing vision quests like for you? Well I was. I was pretty young. I was living in. New York City I moved to New York to study acting and. I was helped I grew up in a surfer. You know as I say Imperial Beach California, and when I got to New York all I wanted was for people to think that was a New Yorker because you're not be on the subway and people say where you that say. I'm from here, so you have. Where are you from? And I just is is the director Harold Becker of vision quests that he said. I hired you because you still had hey in your hair. And and I was really skinny, and he said I think you're a good actor, but could you do ten pushups I might be able to do eleven. And and They sent me to spokane Washington about six weeks early and we trained trained trained. The way tim wrestling and conditioning running running. all those kids in the movie were pretty much. All of them State Championship and what I learned about that that that experience was in anybody who's ever been a grappler knows that what what you wrestling against yourself. You know you're always. You're always discovering how far you're willing to push yourself and. The extremes that you're willing to go in order to accelerate at this dairy difficult sport I just enjoyed that Michael Jordan documentary The last dance and you know Michael. Jordan is extreme example of one of those people that that Just pushed himself to to unbelievable athletic. Prowess I mean it is I. Don't know if you've seen it, but it Documentary really is. Matthew Modine checking in for just a couple of more minutes tonight on sportstalk tomorrow night is the premiere of the movie chance at Amelia starlight. Drive in film was set to open in April. The pandemic changed the plans on that sort putting it on the big screen in the starlight. Drive in Friday Saturday, Sunday eight forty, five A. Matthew. You've mentioned so many amazing names in these few minutes I gotta ask you. Take me back if you could to any given Sunday. What was it like working with Al Pacino. Allen I used to play softball together so I knew him speak. He's really good shortstop. I mean what you think it looking at it, but he moved, he moved really fast, and had a great arm headed. Great throw to first, base. Could take grounders he he. was. Great Hitter, but it was a great sex, shortstop and You know the whole movie for Jim Brown. Eye. Everywhere, you look. There was some legend, the first one I got the most. I had the most fun with was probably large Taylor in the New York giants. And and learning about how the game changed, because because of his athletic abilities as A. The middle linebacker right and and he said you know Matthew I never went looking for trouble, but it always found me. And I mean. Schaechter and Larger than life. But when a gentleman he was an al Pacino is great and Jamie Fox, and a little cool J. and Jim Brown is just. I mean another athletic legends, Jim Brown, and of course as a little boy. You don't. My father was a drive in theater manager I. Really That's that's why we were moving around all the time I started in. Loma Linda California, then Imperial Beach, and then we moved to Utah where we had about eight drive INS and So that's that's my childhood. This star like drive in screening. I lived that that's my childhood. And and the first time I saw Jim Brown. Within the dirty dozen where he was just just amazing, I really know him as a football legend. I knew him as a as a movie starring the dirty dozen. while. One final note just for reds, fans listening, and and since you're a Yankee Fan, this will fit when we think of the Yankees here. We think of nineteen seventy six. When the red swept the eighty so I'll talk that. Eight I can't tell you how much of a treat this was. And what an honor it was to talk with you. CONGRATS on this project best of luck with it and and I really appreciate your. Check it in tonight. I'll thank you for having me on the show mass. Thank you. You gotta take care and everybody. Who's GonNa movie have a good time. Buy some popcorn. Absolutely. Thank you, Matthew. By all right, take care there you go. Matthew Modine tomorrow night. The premiere of the movie chance Amelia. starlight drive in Friday Saturday, Sunday eight, forty five. It's a really the trailer is really amazing. Six forty sportstalk seven hundred WWL W. Pose it on seven o'clock, that'll be newstime news time. Don't forget gamble and then coming up tonight at nine. Your reality check from nine to midnight a shout out to uh, to a number of people Mike Daly who played chances a coach in real life. It was the executive producer. This kind of put the wheels in motion for getting Matthew on, and this goes back to Pete. Mullen camp, the baseball coach at Sycamore who would drop me an email earlier in the week and said hey one of my player. Jake herdsmen is in. In the movie if you want to talk with him and then from there. I said Oh. Man, I talk with Jake any chance I could talk with Matthew Modine and through that process I. It worked Matthew told me during the break he was He said I'm just sitting in the parking lot at home depot, waiting to buy a pressure Washer says that's how boring things are right now in California with what we're dealing with so the movie tomorrow night. it is a again locally produced and filmed. It is It's a powerful story. Sad Story! chance Smith took his life when he was sixteen. In this deals with baseball and teenage relationships in the effects of teen suicide and Matthew Modine is is the coach in the movie tomorrow night? Saturday, Sunday eight, forty five at starlight drive in in a media. Mitch caught up on some headlines. we're We're loaded up tonight. Don't have a whole lot of breathing room around a number of different guests. Let me give you some headlines. We'll talk later in the show about these Pat Brennan from the acquired checks in it seven thirty six tonight, FC Cincinnati and honest, the hiring of Yop stom-. stom-, today as the club's new head coach, Dom forty seven, he joins FC Cincinnati following a managerial stint in England and Holland prolific fifteen year playing career, so I'm play for some of the highest profile clubs in the World Manchester United Menu for one he will be formally introduced by video. Call with the media tomorrow at Ten am. We'll talk with Pat Brennan from the acquirer about it coming up at seven thirty six high school sports tonight the big news. The OJ says skills training, and all sports may resume March twenty twenty-sixth, including contact sports as long as safety protocol can be followed more on that coming up top of the hour baseball news, reds and Indian should have wrapped up their two game interleague series with the Indians in Cleveland. It would have been game forty nine of the season. They'd have an off day today. By the way on the major league level from the negotiating standpoint, the players today responded to Major League, Baseball's a health and safety guidelines that sixty seven page proposal among the topics protection of high risk, players and family members more testing greater access to the facilities, including use of the showers on. That's the health and safety stuff next step that's. That's still being worked on, but the next phase will be the revenue part of this more expected tomorrow NFL. Network Reports Club today received updated playing rules and proposals for rule changes including an alternative to the inside kick that would allow a team a chance to maintain possession, after they score a touchdown by going for it on a fourth in fifteen scenario from their twenty five yard line the idea behind it is they want the on. On side kick is no longer effective. They've changed the rules to avoid collisions. It's very rarely successful, so they're looking for ways to allow teams to at least have a shot to get back in a game now. If you score you get a chance, you can put it on the twenty five yard line and face a fourth and fifteen. If you make it, you keep possession. You don't have to kick off to the other team if If you would be stopped, the other team would take over where they tackle you golf. The symmetric tour announced today that the Plasco Charity Championship in Maine. viaud scheduled for July eighth through the tenth has been canceled due to the Kobe nineteen pandemic, the tournament will return in Twenty Twenty One east Carolina University announced today the schools eliminating men's and women's tennis, men's swimming and diving and women's swimming and diving due to the pandemic. For everything else you've missed. Go Go to my blog. You'll find it at seven hundred wwl W DOT com. The blog has reds and bengals got reds and mets called by Murray and Joe this date nineteen, seventy five. You can listen to the entire broadcast plus the Star of the game if you Miss Rick Green last night, if you Miss Coley Harvey Miss J Kertzman, who plays in a chance all of that plus interviews earlier in the week or always in blog form, and therefore you at seven hundred wwl w dot com up next we'll deal with the JOE. Borough Jersey mania that is sweeping the tri-state. Everybody wants one. Eric Cook, Cook, sporting goods will join me as we continue its Arnelle. Carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W. The following takes place between seven PM and eight PM. I, we're all in seven hundred already seven hundred wwl W sportstalk till nine gamble infants abrupt the reality. Check at that point later on this hour. Pat Brennan from the enquirer talks a little FC Cincinnati coming up in the eight o'clock hour. It's tonight. Tonight's the ten year anniversary of the cyclones winning the Kelly Cup that was their second in three years. We'll talk with the voice of the cyclones at the time. Time John. Hamill we'll talk with the coach of the cyclones at the time. Chuck Weber they'll check in at eight. Oh Five, eight twenty, and then Doug Flynn the glue at eight thirty five tonight. I happened to notice. Today is the anniversary of his first major, League home run imagine being twenty four years old playing for the big red machine in nineteen, seventy five. You get to replace Joe Morgan in. In the seventh inning, your parents are in the stands, and you get your first major league home run. I I dropped Doug Flynn note on facebook today. He said sure I'll come on, so he's coming on at eight thirty six tonight to talk about that moment, so we are loaded up between now and nine o'clock alright excited to get with our next guest because I saw saw Fox nineteen in A. A, story that the German rounded, and I said all right I gotTa talk with him. Because this is clearly like sweeping the tri-state, it is Joe Borough Jersey mania that is unfolding the search for the number nine Joe Borough Jersey, and who better to turn to than the epicenter of it all the iconic cook sporting goods on Fourth Fourth Street downtown. Let's welcome in Eric. Cook Eric Lance McAlister. How are you? I'm doing great land. How're you doing tonight? I am very well and I'm glad you could spend a few minutes. Take take back, Joe. Borough was drafted. April twenty third. How would you describe the demand for the Joe Borough Jersey since that night? Well to be honest with you. It started about a week before that we were taking pre orders for season and really didn't know what we were getting ourselves into. We ordered a couple of hundred thinking well. We older, too many of these are people really going to be buying into this? You know, and then you know we. We were closed down for a couple of weeks. We opened up last Tuesday morning, and it was like Christmas morning we had twenty boxes or burrow jerseys, waiting for us and by Wednesday. They were just about all gone mad. Old Man I think everybody's frame of reference is back to Curson Palmer. Do you have a rely recollection of anything like this when Carson was drafted? Not even close, you know. Carson, was heisman trophy winner first round pick but he wasn't Jodhpur. Phenomenon I don't I. Don't really understand it fully, but the build up around Joe Borough. Compared to Carson Palmer. It's night and day. Thrill media is much much bigger so as you mentioned you are now. You're open right now. Is that correct? We are yes. We opened our doors. Turn the lights back on last Tuesday morning. We have all the safety measures in place, plexiglass masks, or required by anybody coming in, so we've been having walking customer guys last week. Yeah, do you? Do you have the borough jerseys in stock or do you have to order them at this point? We're still okay if you have if you're three XL. Or if you're a toddler or you side, we have those in stock. Still every other size. We ran out of like I said before, probably in a day or so we went through a couple of hundred, so we actually have more on order. They are telling us at Nike that we should expect him hopefully by the middle of June. Give me an idea of what say for an adult size something that I would wear. What is the cost of? Of Joe. Borough Jersey there eighty, nine, ninety nine. There's three different Nike Jersey that they make this is the cheaper of the three and really. Nike's had a manufacturing issue because of covid nineteen. They've had to shut down a lot of their facilities where they make these jerseys so really. They're only able to do the cheaper one four now. They told us during the season. They should have more hopefully. Knock on wood. capabilities to make all the others. I just checked my twitter feed and I have a question from listener. Only one of my listeners can have this question I will toss it to you. You see Chris wants to know. He has a Curson Palmer Jersey. Can he bring it in? Have you strip the Palmer off in so borough in yesterday? I had a feeling that might come up. Yeah, yes, we have done that before. We can certainly do that just happened. Get in touch with us. you know the great things about the Bengals? They love recycling numbers. You know it's not just. You from Rudy Dot in the center dent then Jeremy, Hill. That might be more of a cost effective way of doing the the Borough Jersey even buying new. Absolutely talking about Joe Borough Jersey. Mania, that has unfolding were at the epicenter of all of it with Eric Cook from Cook Sporting goods on Fourth Street downtown. Let me. Let me switch over to the reds. For a second. They had built up so much momentum in the offseason with so many signings did that translate into reds? Fans wanting reds jerseys this off season. You know I have a feeling it would. That's one of the negative things, and of course we have to keep everything perspective with everything going on in the world, but we were really looking forward to a bigger red season than we've had in a lot of years, and because we were shut down for a couple of months, we haven't seen it. you know which is a shame, but again I think whenever they do. Start to play ball again. I think there will be that excitement again so I think everybody in the city is open for that question related to the reds Shogo Akiyama. If someone wants a Shogo Jersey, does the back have shogo or does it have? Well I hope it has ocoee. The. Not. You can go the other way, too. That's beautiful. I love the flexibility. I've also always struck by this and I saw what I went to your website again today. You guys have been around this true. You guys have been around since eighteen eighty eight. That is correct, actually myself. My Cousin Ryan. Cutting Kathy word of generation, we're working there now, so we've been around for a while, not always telling sporting goods, but but you know we started with theater curtains and things like that and how we've evolved a bit over a year. Yeah. What those listening who who want more about the Borough Jersey WanNa look online. What's your website? It's www dot. Cook Sports Dot Com Cookie Style, Funky K. O. C. H. S. P.. O., T. S. COOKS DOT COM. Hey. Great catching up, appreciate the insight and best of luck going forward I. Appreciate it, thanks, thanks Eric, there you go Eric Cook Cook Sporting Goods Fourth Street downtown. They can't keep them in. Everybody wants Joe Borough Jersey. With. Casey earlier today about jerseys he has purchased. We've purchased or him. Birthdays Christmas a you name it over the years and the luck. He has had with players who he's got the Jersey of then being traded or leaving. Free Agency. Put together a really lengthy list, all right Pat Brennan fills us in on the new FC Cincinnati coach coming up at seven thirty six will continue, though it's Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Arnelle carriers, your global transportation provider visit our LLC DOT com Kelsey Chevrolet Open for sales and service with a new state of the art collision repair. Center coming in July seven hundred wwl. Seven twenty, two seven hundred wwl wrol carriers sports dot presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm lands but GALVESTON. Thanks for tagging along tonight I can offer you in blog, form and podcast for everything that happens on the show. The blog will give you various like today if you go there I have this date. Nineteen, seventy, five and calling the reds and mets game, including the Star of the game with Nuxie listen to that on your time. Also through the the blog at seven hundred wwl W, dot com and the IHEART radio APP, which is free to download in fact. The the iheartradio, APP. They'd given me my own podcast page. So if you have the APP you type in my name, it will pull up a page that has everything goes out on the air that you can listen back on on your time. If you Miss Dave Miley earlier in the show. If you missed Rick Green the Cup of coffee story last night, the reds pitcher for one major league game, if you Miss Coley Harvey the former Bengals beat writer last night or my conversation. Conversation with Jay Kertzman, the price, Sycamore, high school, who has a role in the movie chance Tom Nichols told stories from the minor leagues earlier this week. Scott Gugans of UC baseball, talked about the changes to the draft, and and what the process is means for his roster going forward, all of that can be found, and then listen to an clicked on on your time through the blog at seven hundred wwl w an dot com and the IHEART radio APP right. Oh. Follow up on the Jersey talking with Erik Cook from Cook Sporting. Goods. Casey and I put together this list earlier today of Jerseys. He got in some way shape or form birthday Christmas. You name it that those players there there's like a curse that those players then moved on for whatever reason to another team he had. Carson Palmer and then Carson was gone. Had Sean Casey Never Forget the day I had to tell. Casey that Sean Casey was traded to the pirates, left-handed pitcher David Williams that went that Jersey. We had a Jeff Clevinger Jersey and then he was gone. We got a T J JERSEY. Then he was gone. He's a big Miami Heat Fan. Hey Chris Bosh. He got Chris Bosh and then Chris Bosh developed the blood disorder and was done. Playing basketball had an Adam Dunn Jersey. He Got Traded Brandon Phillips Jersey he got traded. He had Lebron Lebron left in free agency from the cavaliers. He had a Kevin. Durant Kevin Durant la left. Okay see he had dwayne. Wade who left the heat and then came back the only one he joked he has had over the years that the player has remained. Is His guy ally manning. His favorite quarterback! I was reading who was it was Rick Reilly. Googling stuff on on Jersey sales today and I found Rick Reilly, pc written want to say about a decade ago on the rules of Jerseys and he had written wearing. Jersey used to be for kids now. People with actual jobs are wearing them. The wrote at six. It's adorable at thirty six deplorable women and jerseys fine, but dude you're really going to. You're going out with another man's name on your back to you have no male pride. I've got a couple of jerseys I've got I've gone to royal. Jersey going to king. Griffey Junior Mariners Jersey have an old Sammy Sosa Cubs Jersey I have my baseball. Heaven Jersey with my name on the back like wearing that out. But, he listed his Jersey rules one. He says you may not wear Jersey past the age of twenty nine. Well that seems rather harsh He says the exceptions a you're immediately related to the person whose name is on the back or be. You are the person whose name is on the back Jersey rule number two. You may not wear a Jersey without a shirt underneath it especially. NBA Jerseys. Number Four. You may not under any circumstances where a Jersey and a hat. I'm trying to think of I've done that I probably have a Jersey remember five. You may not wear a Jersey with your name on it if you didn't wear it on a real team wants. If. I weren't on my the Power Jacks Jack Billingham's team that was. Real as a team as it gets for me. I think that means I would pass the rule. Be Able to do. It rolled over sixty said you made our a Jersey of player who's been gone from your team for more than a year unless that player is a hall of Famer, I do get a kick out of. It's like a sport for me on Sundays at Paul. Brown Stadium Ke keeping track of the the odd bengals juries like the Ron Dougans. or or the Eric Cruiser or like? Wow, you really went with the RAW DOUGANS! Jersey in you still got it a Jersey rule number seven. If you have a nose, tackle body, you must wear a nose tackles jersey. Jersey number eight absolutely no cutesy wrong colored jerseys, no pink, no camouflage. Number nine? No wearing NBA shorts with your NBA Jersey at anytime. Ten No wearing your Jersey anywhere but a to the stadium or be at home. Well I violated that. If you qualify under all edicts. Then you must sign these waivers before donning. Jersey Jersey Waiver, a by wearing a jersey. You are waiving your rights to any sexual activity for the evening. No woman in history has ever said ooh. That guy wearing the Jersey of another man. That's hot. Jersey, waiver be by wearing a jersey. You are waiving any semblance of coolest well I disputed that I I have. The last time I wore one. What no more one on what would have been opening day around here? We're the Bronson Arroyo Jersey because remember we were. We were attending opening day, and there was an opening day, but we were acting. It was to have all the cool memories, and and I that was double violation because we're the bronze Row Jersey reds at that day. That from Rick Reilly was man. That's almost you know what there's should probably be a new one because I think he wrote that about. A about a decade or so ago. I would think the the growth of Jersey sales from almost a decade ago have been off the charts I mentioned earlier. We'll get into this. Maybe a little bit later on there is no. There was a proposal today. Actually there was a response today from the players to the owners. Nothing beyond that, but I would agree with Bob Nightingale in USA Today today who who wrote this paragraph about owners and players right now in major league baseball. He wrote simply stopping. Enough already he wrote. There are thirty six million Americans who filed for unemployment the past two months. Do you think they really care who is right or who is wrong? As owners and players debate, the economics of playing baseball without fans, the last thing anyone can stomach is listening to billionaires and millionaires. Arguing over money. There was a report today. I think it was John. Hayman of CBS sports that on the players side of this there was there was great angst that. Information was getting out. That was the information that the owners wanted out that was making. The players look bad. In a perfect world, both sides we go behind closed doors and keep quiet and we wouldn't have to hear any of this of how the sausage is made. It doesn't work that way because it's all about negotiations. Unfortunately, it's all about leverage and each side ultimately is looking for leverage, and how this is presented publicly all right, hang tight. We'll get the latest on the Cincinnati News of the day. WHO Better turn to than Pat Brennan from the acquirer, and we are locked and loaded in the eight o'clock hour as well so we'd best get a check on news and curiosities Arnelle, carrier sportstalk, presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred wliw. Seven thirty eight seven hundred wwl W at sportstalk carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Arnelle carriers, your global transportation provider visit our LLC dot, com and Kelsey chevrolets open for sales and service, and they've got a new state of the Art Collision Repair Center coming in July coming up top of the hour, the tenth anniversary ten years ago tonight, some thirteen thousand were at us. Bank arena is the Cincinnati. Cyclones captured the Kelly Cup. We'll talk with their play by play voice, John Hamill and then the head coach. Chuck Weber who wants to Kelly cups in his four years here in, Cincinnati, he's actually here in Cincinnati and and has been here for awhile behind that coming up just after eight o'clock news, but the story of the the day is related to FC Cincinnati the announcement of the official hiring of your stom- Today as the club's new head coach will be formally introduced on a online video call tomorrow morning at ten am is forty seven years old the resume impressive and here to shed more light on that and talk FC. Cincinnati has been way too long and I'm very excited to welcome in from the inquire. CINCINNATI DOT COM. He is all over all things FC Cincinnati. That would be Pat Brennan. How are you? Land some great. Your introduction is entirely too kind. It has been too long what it is great. It is great especially in these times. Cowboys Fan in my correct. I I am I correct in the pronunciation Yup stom- Yup. Right got it. Now to me that you're the you're the expert so I defer to you, but this isn't some just ordinary. Joe Hiring. This is a significant big time. Hiring is not. Yeah because one lance that would have turned heads across the globe today, and maybe tomorrow is the news cycle Kinda circulates eastern part of the world, but This is a guy that was a starter on arguably. The Best Club soccer team and Manchester United during their ninety eight ninety nine season one of the best clubs soccer teams in the modern era and he wasn't just. There for the ride he was a key player. He was a starter and he's playing career alone. makes him someone that is globally note worthy I think in in the global soccer community and he's had some. This is his first coaching job I think it's fair to say he's had mixed success, but he's had mixed success. In some of the toughest most competitive leagues in the world did pretty well for himself in the second division in England, which some people argue including myself is Skillful League in the world, but the one of one of the toughest, if not the top leagues in the world because you're fighting to get into that English premier down so. He did really well one season when he was managing a club called reading see. In that second division England so Yeah, this is he was. He was considered one of the one of the best defender in the game in his era, which is not that long ago? So this is a modern player. As you said, he's only forty seven years old and Yeah, this one would have turned heads all over the globe today a pet the. The the other thing that jumps out to me. There are some guys with the big name who'll just ride on their big name to me. I look at the resume and I. See Player I see. He spent some time as a scout. He was an assistant. He's been the top guy that's. That's a well rounded resume that to me jumps out. Is that fair? Yeah one hundred percent I mean Lance. I'm sure you've seen this in the news release, but. He had a coaching stint for a an academy team at albeit a academy, one of the biggest soccer clubs in the world, so I'm sure that team quite prominent in its you know age division, and for its among its peers, but he was a youth coach, and he and he doubts that as something. He's proud of his professional development. So yeah, this is this is a guy who did not just. Kind of appear at the top levels of the game because of his big name from his playing days. He really I think put his put his nose to the grindstone and works his way up and to be named obviously to be named head Coaches Cincinnati he would have earned that, but he's. He's. I think it's definitely fair to say he. He is He's earned everything. He's gotten in the in the coaching. Aspect of his career, and that includes his job today and I also think it's important to note he hasn't. He hasn't used his name kind of in the same vein Lance. He hasn't used his name to try to get into like one of these huge huge global giant soccer clubs. They've all been like you know reading. At C that's not exactly a household name. in these in this part of the world and you know even the the quote unquote big club. He coached in the Netherlands. That was a great accomplishment in that country, but these aren't necessarily global brand, so I think he takes on attainable job and He's good at them, so they're to me. That's suggests the also knows. Maybe maybe he knows his limitations as well and knows what he's capable of succeeding at which is you know that might sound? Simplistic but some people don't have that self awareness in the game. That brandon checking in from the choir since dot com talking about FC Cincinnati, they announced at the club's new head coach today. He'll be official introduced to the media tomorrow we'll. We'll see him on zoom tomorrow win. Here's the big question. When might he actually be here in able to get hands on with his new club? Really good question, my answer to you is I. Don't have a firm answer on that yet, but when you look at. The situation with the pandemic and some of the government rules and regulations closed borders. that. He's going to be facing. I mean let me let me I mean that's all part of this right now. And that for some people suggest today that, because maybe they announced the higher now because they've found a window or some way to get him into the country, so they can start the immigration process if that's true great i. don't I have to think probably not the case just because hot. How serious depend damage is being treated and most of the world's Nancy so. I think that You know. Challenge? I can tell I could tell him her answer yes. Looks. Just. Put It in perspective, you know. There were three players, three new players that FC Cincinnati acquired in the off season, and who they are exactly. It doesn't really matter and people. Will Your Cardio One Adrian right gets in FC Cincinnati. Was All not just see Cincinnati curbs route about less or having Longer than usual they were dealing with longer than usual processing times and timelines the immigration process just because. You know this isn't a political comment about I think it's was largely seen just because of the regime. That's Running our country right now, and that is what it is but that was so `immigration was already a longer process of these clubs accustomed to, and that was before the pants. Okay, so now you have to paint. Borders closed not just here in the places where you know in the in the part of the world where you off is coming from, too, so if it like, if if like people theorized today. If there's a window a way to get him in now to start the process awesome. where? That's possible at this time, so it could be a while, and it could be a situation, you know it's Kinda. Doubly concerning because it seems like mls has thrown all its eggs into this Orlando plan. Some people have talked about relocating all the teams to Orlando to resume practice like real practice, and maybe some form of competitive games, and if that planning gets off the ground land, it could start as early as June though we're talking less than two weeks out from that, so it's hard to imagine yourself being able to work. In the full managerial capacity, even in the best of circumstances, just considering the time line, he might be up against, so it could be a while but I think FC Cincinnati just like they said when they set out on this head coaching search, you know this is not about a short term, fix? This is a look. This is about a plan. Plan for their future so I think they have an eye to twenty twenty, one as much and maybe more as they do. Have as they have an IDA twenty twenty here now Pat Brennan checking in from the Acquire Cincinnati. Dot Com speaking of plans for the future any sense of what the future now might hold for current interim coach Yawn demet. You're you're bringing the heat tonight. Really good. Question I asked You I asked her about that last week. At the time, it had been approached with the assistance in the club I would assume so some progress towards some end has been made in the week since that interview took place with your camper general manager But it's a it's a really interesting situation now. Because Johan has been a team player club, first mentality put Cincinnati. Number one on the priority list in seemingly every situation he's been confronted with. Guided the team through a really ugly periods. That really wasn't. Any he really can't take too much blame for what happened on the field last year, and yet he he chose to preside over their head coach and. took some bumps and scrapes. That came with that so. That he really values this guy. You talk about prospects you know on the playing side, but this was a prospect for the coaching side and someone they want to develop. You know. As time has passed and she's been. Essentially you know there's really. Blunt way to say he's been looked. He's been passed over for the place now. In the meantime he's built up a heck of a little resume for himself so I. Don't know that he wouldn't have elsewhere my guesses. His inclination would be to want to stay around with FC Cincinnati but I think you had some saying that, too. Because just like in baseball just like in football in soccer you want to. It's not a it's. It doesn't mean you don't want isn't trustworthy. Yours a guy he just yup might want him to leave. Just because doesn't own, and it's as simple as that and he wants to bring in his guys. He's already bringing in one existent Any off just might want to have his speech around it by guys, and that's that's. That's a fair new head coach in any country. In the world so to determine about Yawns Ama. I think Cincinnati thrilled to find a way to keep him around. I think he would want to be around, but Yeah. This is a little bit different than when Ron hired and. Yuan was touted as maybe the next generation of head coach Cincinnati because who rod really quickly. Next generation is here with Yop. And I think the distant future, maybe even quite as clear for yawns as it was yesterday great catching up with you one more for you got about a minute, so do a Do a reset for us if you consider it. I know we were a couple of games into this thing when things were shut down, but from a roster standpoint, the additions locadia and others now GM in place coach in place is your sense that this club is on a solid path with a map that is taking them in the right direction. Yeah absolutely. I think they've got a lot of the. They've got more of the right players. they definitely have the general manager in place, and he's able to use his direct networks. Put some other things in place. In terms of players, now toys with the head coach, and hopefully this one goes better than last time, but there's a clear a clear plan I thought. Cincinnati already looked at light years ahead of where they were in terms of the play in the first two games. The club was. And when it was but I, think I think without question and this is the trade. Move in the right direction lance. A It is so cool to talk. Talk FC Cincinnati with the appreciate your making the time good to hear your voice, stay safe and hoping talk again soon. Absolutely thanks so much land. Talk to you again. He is a Pat Brennan from the inquiries on twitter. P Brennan E N Cube p Brennan Espn N. Q. of course at p Brennan and take a timeout continue sportstalk seven hundred WWL W. Down the stretch. Seven, o'clock hour two minute warning news two minutes still news eight o'clock hour is act and stacked as segue. Say if you missed Dave Miley. Is Manager. If you missed. Matthew, Modine the actor earlier. Those are available in podcast form at seven hundred wwl wd calm I was just trying to think during the break up one and my apologies for the Dorky nece in the excitement of being able to talk to Matthew Modine. I talked mostly the athletes and writers and broadcasters. I've talked with a few politicians. Over the years I talked with Mr. T. one time I played the fool I talked with Jesse, Jackson one time around the Marge Schott. Situation is that was unfolding? I don't know I don't talk to many actors in fact. The last actor I may have talked to on sports. Talk might be Andy Travis from W K RPI. Who was listening one night and called in but I. don't and the fact that it's not just any actor. It's the guy who started in. The one of the best movies in the eighties in vision quest, which would arguably the greatest soundtrack of all time, and he was just like it cools could be. It's like my. To have a brush with movie greatness tonight, okay? Two hours in the books hang tight much more to give thanks for all the tweets twitter feed available and presented by barley corns, I'm Atlanta, mcallister and barley corns is hiring and they offer delivery and carry out in the burly famous for four up next man ten years ago tonight, right at this very moment thirteen, thousand, four hundred eighty three fans. We're going Balkars at US bank arena. The cyclones were closing in on the Kelly Cup. We will talk with the play-by-play Voice of that team. We will talk with the head coach of that team in the next half hour as we continue its Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W. The, following takes place between eight. PM and nine PM. And in the eight o'clock hour we go eight eight on seven hundred wwl. WWL's carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet I'm Lance. McAlister one hour from now brace yourself your reality. Check is on the way with gamble and fin for the moment there. Let's turn back the clock. Go with me back ten years ago tonight to US bank arena, the completion of an improbable run a journey to to hoist the Kelly Cup the cyclones in front of thirteen, thousand, four, hundred, eighty-three, captured the Kelly Cup. They're second in three years. The run started as the number five seed. They were down three in the conference finals. All of it wrapped up ten years ago. Tonight and it sat at like this. By Hamilton drops it down to the corner. That's. going. To. Ten what it improbable. Season as. Cycles wind up knocking off. South Carolina. First, round but depending Kelly Cup champions. The second round. Of the American. Season champion Charlotte checkers. Three they come from all three nothing. To advance this round as against Bram trump champions. The Idaho steelheads the cycle don't have to go the full length the series. They take care of it here in five games tonight. Your final score to till on listen to the crowd that night man I get chills here in that. Let's welcome in the man behind the MIC. Who witnessed that run? He was the radio play by play voice. He was the media relations director. He did it all for the Cincinnati cyclones that would be John. Hamill! How are you? Doing well. Thanks for having me. You got it as you hear that and you think back, Gimme the Gimme, the emotions of just a spectacular run. What what stands out about that team in that run to you? You, know the things that jumped out. There were three things. I thought I was the resiliency of the team six times postseason Lance. It was winter. Go home, and and they punched him in the mouth sticks. you know eight times in that? In that playoffs they had come from behind wins and four times with most goals. You know your your second point that I had there was. they played hard when it mattered the most you know the. We're GONNA talk about it here. Just a minute with the reading series, but big played nine teams and fourteen days, and they've won eight of nine so. You're you're pretty good there. And then of course the goaltending everybody saw Robert Meyer in the lights, bright and He was great. Don't get me wrong, but journey Smith in the first round. Put on one of the best goaltending performances I ever see so. Those were the three big points I took out of everything trane John Give me some. Kind of Flash, the memories of the fans back in time to some of the the names the impact guys on that team that you think of instantly when you think of that season of that accomplishment. Oh golly! For sure the cats into the team you know he was great. During the regular season scoring round up with nine goals in the post, season and stuff since sproat who? was just spectacular with eleven goals in the postseason, and then not Jimmy Kilpatrick who've been good all season Brett, Robinson, gets the game winner, and then you go on on the back side. You know with Cashman. Who played most of the year in the American League now? He's the assistant coach with the Washington capitals. Jason Joseph He's been eliminated by the cyclones when he was in Toledo not always in seven, and then in Vegas. No wait. I guess if you can't beat him. You better join them. With two goalies. That that that was a good man. Oh, man John, Hamill, checking in the outstanding play-by-play Voice of the cyclones ten years ago tonight, when they hoist the Kelly Cup and win the Cup for the second time in three years. We're GONNA be joined coming up in our next segment by Chuck Weber, the coach of that team John You sent me a a lot of notes leading up to this which I cannot thank you enough for and one that jumped out to me a Michael Jordan aspect of this. Tell that story if you could. Absolutely Obviously, he was the owner of the Charlotte basketball team. And when we showed up to the arena for game six, it was morning skate that day, and we were coming into the building at exactly the same moment. Michael Jordan was and. It's because we're coming in MJ. You know you know good luck, you guys. You hear playing very quickly. Guys win tonight what we go out and and didn't do so well. We lost three nothing, so my job at seven was to make sure he was nowhere. That's beautiful. Lover Steve Kerr when we need exactly exactly I mentioned. We're going to talk with a truck in the next segment, but let me ask you working with Chuck pre-game interviews around him all the time practice bus. What was Chuck Weber like? Tell me about the impact. He had on that team. 'cause man he. He had a magic time. He won one hundred and seventy seven games in four years here in forty five playoff games when he was here. He was spectacular the biggest. Capita can give chop. He was he was terrific with managing the people. He's one of the festive value raiders of talent that I've ever been around any sports and when when it comes, I worked with sparky with both Becker with huggins and John. Harbaugh I put him in that echelon. Both both for being on. The floor as well as being behind the scenes I mean just spectacular. I can't say enough. Good things I think the thing that media jumps out the most. You gotta remember. We had checks here for four seasons was really closer to five because in an E C H L season, their seventy two games in four years. He coached seventy one play. Man, unbelievable before. Let your catch everybody up. Kick Cyclone. Fans up! What are you up to these days? What what keeps you busy? Well I'll tell you what I bought. My White Tear with about a thousand stories from that. Put. Every every time I think about something I'll throw out a note and I just see the is role but For me since I left the organization I work with the great education seem over its huber providing solutions for feeding scoop. Kids in school also they. They fix a bunch of my time and I'm I'm certainly glad to be involved with that and you know. If. It's been a good run for me all the way around. I had eight great years with the cyclones. I can't think those people enough for everything they did to me. John this was a blast. I can't tell you how much it means you sent me an email. A couple of weeks ago, gave me a heads up, but I circled it on the calendar. I love on this data sports things related to this town. I love taking fans back to those moments, and your notes were perfect, and the fact that you help lineup. Chuck in our next segment was was fantastic. It means a great deal to me and thank you. Absolutely I certainly appreciated and Why can't wait to hear what chuck say John Thank you take care. Stay safe. Are they all right there? You Go John Hamill the voice of that team ten years ago, tonight cyclones always the cup in front of thirteen, thousand, four, eighty, three at US bank arena up next the coach. He won two Kelly. Cup titles four years here one hundred and seventy seven wins, forty-five playoff wins check. Wherever will join US next? It's Arnaud. Carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred wliw. Plumbing. Eight twenty three seven hundred wwl W it's Sportstalk Arnelle carriers for dot presented by Chelsea Chevrolet I'm Landsberg McAlister thanks for hanging out tagging along tonight the theme in this half hour ten years ago tonight cyclones hoist the Kelly Cup and it completely a magical run through the postseason. Our next guest guided the Cincinnati cyclones to Kelly cups in his four seasons, one, hundred, seventy, seven regular season, wins forty five playoff wins. It is a pleasure to welcome and former head coach of the Cincinnati cyclones. Chuck Weber coach. Lance McAlister. How are you doing great? Great to hear voice. It is great. Oh, everything is fantastic. I'm so excited to talk with you. When I found out that John said you were going to be able to join me. I wonder as you think back ten years ago tonight, the the sense of pride and accomplishment, and how magical that run was just just an amazing run wasn't. Was Yeah especially with us being the fifth seed in the playoffs, so it wasn't like the year in a await were basically the the leader right out of the gate to the finish line and you know. We went through so much adversity I think we went through almost forty five players during the regular season and with everything else going on, and you know we again. We were cheesy. One every what I probably hammered, so we want every even game the first two rows. Put put ourselves down three nothing against writing and and then came back, and then quick turnaround flute up Boise, Idaho. Wouldn't that would four games to one that was that was the easiest of all the series. Swell! Take take me back to the conference finals, and you delivered a speech. The just win a period speech. Tell me about that, yeah! I don't really think it was so much the speeches. The guys were a good spot, and it was it was. We had nothing to lose We were down three. You know we were in every game didn't get a bounce hereabouts there. It was kind of a weird. Because reading was actually the fifth see, but reading I. Think was the six or seven They had upset a couple of higher seats as well and We went down and you know I think just the you know. Our energy levels the first Toronto to catch up with us a little bit. Cinco de Mayo happens and. Most people at her. The urban legend is true. Our boys when I got drunk. And we had we had three days off or three forties off. Actually you could. Bon Jovi was using writings arenas Hassan check. System so we played three games, and then we've had I was like four days off so Cinco de Maya. The boys were like Hey. One glass of Danner have a couple of drinks I'm like that's fine. And they came in the next day reeking of like Ben Gay and big red trying to hide it. And everything else. Fortunately our guys out there, guys. and. We started chipping away. Yeah, we I just I said. Hey, you know a couple of people that are you get mad? You know they're drinking. It's the conference finals and guys were down three in, and you know a big speech or getting angry, trying to pull events Lombardi or something like that. It's not gonNA work and. Guys you know and we need to win a period know we're not going to win four games in the first minute of game for a period I think. Cam told me I. Think the remaining twelve periods. We were ten to kind of saying that we just started chipping away. We had a couple of tough lineup. Decisions some guy. It just wasn't working for you. Especially one of our guys, so I sat him, and that was kind of I. Think the guys in the locker room, or she's one of our leading scores and guys like Oh. Wow, chuck's really well. Sit early scores to try to win this and get whatever it takes, and he actually sat all four games that we came back. Played All five games in the finals, and I think their second or third leading scored in the whole playoffs, ready missiles sports, those are the four games, and we had a couple of hard talks and early on, and it just wasn't working I was like. Hey, you're not going tonight game four. He's just looked at me and I was like yeah, and then game five. He okay like no. You're not going tonight either. then. He realized he wasn't playing the rest of the series and he came after Game Seventies. Like Hey, I understand. And you know I'm you're if you got? If you need me and game when I'm like you're playing a game? Wow, well, you know. And they were all went from there shook. What did it mean you? You win it on home ice in front of thirteen, thousand, four, hundred, eighty three. What did it mean to do it there in and your sense of what it meant to the fans that night? It was unbelievable, especially going through it just two years earlier, you know in two thousand, eight, seeing the crowds, and you know the and stuff that we had for that for that Round Against Vegas To have that huge crowd come in and one of the things. We had some great crowds during the regular season. You know, ray ray hair are owner and Kristen and the whole front office had done a great job. You know and and John had done great with promoting the teams through his. You know with with him with his job and. It was just one of those. They just kept pouring in people pouring in and pouring in and especially when we went up to what late when Brett Robinson took the shot in, and everyone starts chanting. We want the cup, and then it started going. We want the cup again. You, you been in many different cities over the years. Is it fair to say that the city of Cincinnati holds a very special place in your heart it does you know my first head coaching job A lot of hockey over those four years. You know I take a lot of pride. In the standpoint, we went from my first year in two thousand six, never player. New Franchise. We were just starting up again. you know we had the brand name, but we have the team yet. You know so you know. When when ray brought the end. We feel that first year we lost in the division finals. Then we win it. We're losing the conference finals, and then we win it again. and then Jeez know three of the next four coaches fall played for me, skull the. For Orlando, Matt McDonald won a championship with me in A. Great Hanau with Mattie Thomas Coach against. Mattie for decades and you know so just the standpoint that the team has been so successful now. You know that's fourteen fifteen year stretch. I think they've only made me miss the playoffs one year. Or two years, and you know to win a cup I you know I think if you're GONNA look down. The history of Cincinnati pro sport is probably one of the most successful runs here over a decade and a half in Cincinnati history check I got about a minute. Listeners what are you up to these days? Where are you these days? I Am Coaching College Hockey Now I'm at Rensselaer. Polytechnic Institute, so for the hockey fans. It's an easy school. famous for guys like Adam oates. Mike mcphee Joey Juno. Up Their PUPA, those types of guys we've had about fifty or sixty NHL players come through our doors. This is your to from the college hockey working with a guy by the name of Dave Smith. WHO's the head coach here? WHO's been a long friend? And I have a four year old, also GonNa the the yeah, the jumping around of pro-jo hit nineteen years a pro coaching. And just decided to change gears a Little Bit Movie Division One College Hockey, and that's what I've been doing so. He has in the American League and went to Europe and now putting some routes down here, North America and doing the college solitaire. Excellent Hey I'll let you go. The show that follows me tonight is the reality check. One half of that is Tom Gamble Tom. Gamble called during the break and said to tell you he said hello. I. Spent a lot of good times with him those last couple of years and yeah, it definitely missed. Those guys miss all the people and the the fans. especially it was such a special place and you know it's funny that the replaying the game tonight on YouTube the replay replaying game five tonight live and I'm. GonNa Replay win from two thousand eight, as well so cyclones are doing a great job staying that sports landscape there Cincinnati Excellent Jukka so great to hear your voice so great catching up with the appreciate the time congrats on everything you have going on and best of luck going forward. All land. They take care there you go, check Weber head coach of the cyclones ten years ago tonight. When they won the Kelly Cup for the second time. In three years I am way late news time and then Doug flat around the corner on the anniversary tonight of his first Major League home run with the big red machine after we check news carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W. Eight forty one seven hundred wwl W! It's Arnelle. Carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Gambling fin warming up with the reality. Check coming up at nine o'clock. Down Try! Am I setting up our next guest publicly what? Yeah all right, L.! Let me flashing back even further. Let me go back to May. Twenty First Nineteen seventy this date, nine, thousand, nine hundred seventy five riverfront stadium. Our next guest stepped to the plate at satellite like this ready again with the next good. Talk. Fabric. What I? Hear a lot bear. Home Right at eleven of. Fanatic! Why what that young man? Only going praises Brian. I'll tell you. What is that ball with a whole lot of authority off the Beijing Green? Heading to back, no, it is not let's welcome in. He hit that home. Run this date. One, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy five. It would be doug. Flynn how are you? Doing also and words that were never spoken again for the next eleven years Doug, plan. Hammers out of the. First things first. How good that I bumped in with the Oak Ridge Boys? I heard it. This is a great intro. Still dear friend and You know they're still getting after every day they shoot. They don't I. Don't know two hundred and something days a year. and. They got a couple of guys that are pushing eighty I, mean they are? Right now tell me the truth I. Message You on facebook today to tell you about this anniversary. Were you aware this was the anniversary of your first Major League home run? I was not. you know. One would be. You know I I can remember it pretty well because I don't up to the plate I'm not sure how I got into the game. We were up eight four replaced replace Joe in the seventh inning looked it up. Okay, and all the close to bunt, yes. Out with the three and one. Down Valleys Grandma's and he didn't have the gun on and I said all right I know I miss? The science stepped out. Look back down to Alex. he went through the signs again. No, but all right. I'm probably going to get fined for this, but I'm swinging. And Years later Johnny Bench told me he said you can thank me for your first home run. How's that? He said well spark button. Sparking we're up eight to four kid hit. Wow, Leno, and then that was a pretty historical game because I say. We went on a pretty good run after that. In fact, you did from that point forward. You One forty one of your next fifty games. How about that? That's pretty impressive. I, know we put at least separated. It was an unbelievable run. I think. We had a couple of ten win streaks in there and just. Made it so fun. You know that was my first year, so not knowing what to expect. Or how did this team really was? There seemed to be a lot of pressure on that year because they had one in seventy, and they didn't win and seventy two seventy, three got beat the division. With the mets and now. Everybody was starting to say I. It's the big red machine, but they haven't won it yet. So you know that started just relaxing, everybody and just incredible run from there on out and Doug, not only a special moment, because it was your first major. League home, but your family was there that not right. You, know they. They came up. Be Miles south so they would come up to quite a few games and. There were so many things blake year when people say. What was your highlight of your career or your first year? We'll good night. You know you get cut. Bring Your College team three years later. You're in the big leagues. Your I hit you in the locker room with so many superstars and then. Golly I. It's hard to really put. In the exact time Texas exactly how fabulous everything was I'm so fortunate to be there. At the right time Doug I also I listened to that I found that game on Youtube today I listen to it and you were the star of the game, so I was. It was funny because you you. You sounded so young and so nervous talking with Nuxie in the post game. What a moment! That must've been well. You know those guys I've watched one of the kid growing. Into, the game, and then all of a sudden. You're the guy sitting in the dugout with Joe Nuxhall. I mean. If you listen to the broadcast the home run, he was more excited. I think than anybody. Yes, yes, and then s you get to know Joe you realize. Wow, that's how special guy he was not only was a great player and admired by so many people but I. Don't know of anybody that has a better name throughout Cincinnati history than Joe Nutso. To think about it, you're you're twenty four at the time you're from Washington. You're playing on a team that becomes the big red machine. What what a moment in your life. Nobody has built that bad. What. So much. So much fun with and but you know the great thing about it is anywhere you go and people say you're part of the big red machine without even thinking they can the starting lineup and I. There's not a whole lot of ball clubs that have people that remember the starting lineup. Except for the ones you know when their local fans but shoot, everybody can tell you who was on that team. They were like Rockstar it just so fun to be around. Catch everybody up before I. Let you run and manage great catching up with you. What are what are you up to these days? What keeps you busy well? I've been Dimple Bank here Lexington for twenty two years of course, but like everybody else just trying to stay healthy. Yeah, my mom and dad or ninety two, and they're over and assisted living right now, so we did a little visit with them. Them today from social distancing, but you know my older daughter doing really well taken care of the House fixing up stuff and do a little fishing golfing and just can't wait to give a big hug a lot of my buddies that I haven't seen for a while no question. Hey, this was really cool of you. I'm so glad we could hook up and I appreciate you checking in tonight. To relive the moment on this date nineteen seventy-five way if you're the best buddy I take to pass and you guys stay safe sounds good thanks doug. All right buddy there you go, Doug Flynn the glue. Is that big red machine back to back? World series titles won a gold glove with the mets this date. Riverfront Stadium Nineteen seventy five. He homered off Tom Hall and he was exactly right because I, listening to the broadcast I heard the moment that count went to three, and why he had tried to bunt earlier in the at Bat, and eventually took off the side of the fact. He tells the story was it was Johnny. Who told Sparky let the kid hit? And he did and homer the the first of his major league career, he would go on to hit six more in his major league career total of seven home runs. That was really cool. We'll take our final time out head down the stretch. Try to squeeze in a couple of more notes on this date in reds, history, darnall carrier sports talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Seven Hundred W. and. The music sets us on our way on this date in reds history to wrap things up. We go back to nineteen forty six. The reds are nearly stranded due to a nationwide rail strike coming back from Boston to Cincinnati they. Reach Buffalo before the midnight strike. They had to travel to Cleveland. The players did in taxi cabs. Then stay over and bust home to Cincinnati that courtesy of red leg journal, which is my source for most of this that I loved that book one thousand nine hundred. Eighty two the defending national champion dodgers ripped the reds for fifteen runs in the first inning. You'll blackwell's started for the reds. The reds used four pitchers in the first inning. Dodger's went on to win nineteen to one at ebbets field, nineteen consecutive batters reached in the first inning. Joe nuxhall pitched the final three innings, allowing no runs that was his second major league appearance eight years after his first appearance at the age of fifteen. And come to think of it, he debuted in eighteen nothing game. His second appearance was in nineteen one game this they nineteen, sixty three Jim, Maloney ties a team record for strikeouts nine innings with sixteen. He pitched a two hitter eight and a third innings beat the braves to nothing at county stadium. He struck out eight in a row. At one point, he won twenty three games that year, striking out two hundred and sixty five in two hundred and fifty days this date, one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, five, as we mentioned with Doug Flynn. The reds trailed Tom, sieber three nothing at Riverfront. They rallied to win four or eleven to four. They were twenty and twenty entering the game. They would proceed to win forty one of their next fifty, and the big red machine was on its way this date nineteen ninety reds over the cubs, four three at Wrigley Jose Real Beats Greg Maddux. Six and a third innings of one earned run baseball that nasty boys finished off the final two and two thirds I noticed bill long the pride of molar pitch for the cubs in that game, the reds were twenty six and nine date in nineteen, nine, hundred, ninety, the state two. Two Thousand and one day after being stunned by a seven-run bottom of the ninth walk off Grand Slam by the braves, the reds regrouped and one in Cleveland, seventy four and Cocoa Francisco Cordero, who give it up the Grand Slam the day before cleaned up with a ninth inning, save in the game and finally this date two thousand twelve Michalik eight innings of one run baseball for the win. Reds beat the braves four one at great, American Ballpark drew stubbs homers twice Mike Lee. The first of six for his Major League career in Zach, Coz are homered as the reds knocked off the braves all this date in reds history there you go by the way or the other The other note in actually dropped him. A A message a DM on twitter, trying to get him on tonight. It was also on this date, two thousand and twelve in that game that Kaleb Lloyd. A local guy caught two of those home runs. He caught leaks home, run ball, and then Coz art very next batter he. He homered into the left center field, bleachers and Caleb Lloyd caught both of them. Actually the first one he barehanded, it bounced out of his hand. It stung in pretty good, but he picked it up, and then the very next batter Coz art hit one that bounced into his lap. He didn't keep either ball. He gave the League home. Run back to the reds to give to leak and the second home run. He gave to a friend who went to the game with who had given him the ticket for the game. Caleb Lloyd. If you're listening I, was looking for you today to be a guest on the show to tell that story, but we missed each other, but cool story back to back home runs to the same guy at great American ballpark on this date all right? I gotTA get Outta here I'm told and I'm going to need some time to recover from this. At least the the imagery I am told that not only do the do gamble. And Finn Deliver the reality check coming up in a matter of a minute or so, but at ten fifty. They are staging a pure romance party. Now I think a lot of things when I think of gambling fin romance does not factor into the equation at any point and I believe it's safe in saying I'm permanently scarred just by being told they're hosting pure Romance Party at Ten fifty tonight. I gotTA GET OUTTA here Your news is next. Thanks for being a part of the show tonight we'll do it tomorrow for three hours including and off the beaten path topic I must decide on if you have one lance Atlanta's mcallister dot, com. Thanks, everybody news next home of the red seven hundred WWL W.

baseball Cincinnati reds Kelsey Chevrolet Yankees Rick Green Pat Brennan Matthew Modine Eric Joe Borough Jersey Dave Miley A. Matthew Eric Cook Lance McAlister New York Papa John Major League Chevrolet Sycamore Rick
Seeing the Light in Business

getWITit | Women in Technology

57:01 min | 3 months ago

Seeing the Light in Business

"Welcome to the gatt whip podcast. I will be your host elizabeth. This podcast will focus on the decline of women in technology and how our grass roots organization works with the community to foster relationships in reducing the gap of women. And we'll be talking with both men and women and how to continue to move the needle forward on those relationships for more information. Please check us out at get with it dot org. This episode is brought to you by. Hnb's asian people leaves. The cloud ecosystem is innovation and solution engineering engine of future. We're getting there is a complex jury organizations partner with h. a. b. to get their people processes and technology to the cloud build eight data driven culture in the cloud and drive innovation using ai and machine learning. Please visit b. net dot com to learn more. Welcome to another edition of. He get would've podcast today. I have with me. Two lovely ladies from each be incorporated right as an asian be incorporated. You know. I think we started that way. But we kinda just chill now so we're just like egypt. Oh oh. I like that We have amber rush. And we have terron schaefer and these ladies We're going to tell us all about hp but first we're gonna go back and talk to them about their background how they started You know we don't have to go all the way back to birth but we like to wear your thought process was early on in your careers. Life anything like that If you ladies have parents like mine my parents were like really good unless you should go into that in shoot me that way and then i hit forty and where the total opposite way. Sappho All right well. I'd i have no qualms you start. I can start. And i won't start from birth but i'll start my birth at h. b. because yesterday was my nine year anniversary at agent. Happy three years. So i think a marriage for the long haul so i made a commitment to each and be and you know you gotta work on it for you. Yes nine years for me. And i feel like my parents didn't shoot me in a direction. They just shoot me to like you need to go to college because neither of them too so it was go to college are actually. I went to a degree in nutrition. So i don't utilize it at all and have never really worked in that space you went. Osu usa did okay. So you're a buckeye. I am a buckeye. I'm a spartan. Oh well you know when. I love everyone and i'll be honest like i love to go to games. I love to like pretend. I such a fan get dressed up but i never even paid attention. I was just sitting there for the fun. The tailgates new drinking girls say it how it yet share leaders right. You know. it's funny. I married one of them. You married a mail. Osu cheerleader jed all my god the game for cheerleaders my god that he did not meet him in that context when we met it was before my senior year and he had graduated temporary years before but he cheered at osu. So i'm near there. You go see god. That's okay go. We digress went to get nutrition. Degree did not utilize that Worked actually well. I did right when i graduated work as a personal trainer for like five months so kind of utilized it But then that wasn't for me. Because i like structure like you know eight to five. I don't want to have a five. Am twelve pm seven pm. That wasn't quite for me That i worked for cardinal health in their marketing department on a contract for eight or nine months Just kind of randomly in that was kinda nepotism theme because my aunt is a vp in an area there so she was like a hope. You what doing what though. What would what does she do. Your what was i know. what were you doing. I just helping with their marketing department. Kind of random as a contractor. I kind of just picking up things. That they need is picking up the bullshit work. Nobody wanted yeah. Almost kind of like an intern. Because i still had just graduated and it was they. Were just giving me things to do. Which was wonderful and lovely experience with them. When i ended and i was still like a year out of school and i had no idea what i wanted to do with my life i came across. This company called agent be end. They were looking for a receptionist at the time. And i was like. Hey i compete receptionist answer phones like figure out what i wanted to do with my life and i'll be honest. I don't think that i had any idea at should. Did i probably em. When i was talking to my parents and i had no concept of technology or or anything and so started in in that role is a receptionist and was there for about a month and then got pulled into recruiting I'm sure you know sue. Johnson who now we have great her but she says he is the only one that big drinking buddy h. In bay rate them. I'm going to be seeing her tonight as well did she. Original three okay. Both now tell them this. And how i do willing answer will be yes so when i started sue is the only one that was here doing recruiting. We didn't have a recruiting department. We were. I mean maybe sixty to seventy and size at the time so we were way smaller and she was ready to build a team and luckily she saw something in me and said hey you know what. I'm gonna have her on my team here. She brought me into recruiting after being there for about a month and taught me everything she knows. So i owe it all to sue. And i never for nine years. So still with recruiting now. Recruiting manager is my role. And we've we've grown from like. I said when i was initially here. Sixty to seventy ish now probably to fifteen issue so we've grown a lot over the last nine years and now i know what we do at. Hp that's an. I realized this is the a really cool industry to be part of and initially what i loved so much was. Oh my gosh. All these people are so nice. I i loved the culture. I loved that and then obviously realize it's a cool industry to be a part of in a in a really great company so nine years later my i'm still committed and you're still married to that cheerleader. Joel not wants been seven years on all right. Well tehran goodness. I don't know if they have that much excitement i can. I can go back way. Back to how i started to to get into this in business development for hp so have to go way back to think about. When did i start really been sales. And that's from birth. My dad's a salesman sale. I kind of was always pushed and lead in that direction. It just is something that's eight. I almost feel like my some of my first jobs. I think of well. I sold shoes at famous. Footwear if you know what. I mean who doesn't love it. I got to sell shoes and get the discount. So i was in but yeah you gotta love shoes from there. I remember being in high school and actually selling for the columbus dispatch. Do you remember getting those telemarketing calls. Would you like to buy a subscription to the paper. Yeah me back in the day. So did that for a little while automatically. I ended up moving away though to pennsylvania. When i got married to my husband and when we were there he had his own company. We had a maintenance company. So i was actually out doing some sales and selling contracts and we worked with companies like sheets which i am so happy to say. If you don't know sheets they're coming to columbus you know. What a cracks me up because they just get witted. We have somebody who works for sheets. That word of of the pittsburgh chapter Arm she was on a call. We're having an all hands thing and she just let you ohioans. Then we're coming to ohio Shit things just blew up here yeah. I'm super excited. Mto my thing all the time. They're literally across the street almost from where i live. I'll be there. I don't know what would you say. Mto made to order showing everything at sheets is no this. You attack screen. Oh gee i don't know about them. Oh girl dan. I mean if you think about it. They guess shed isn't it isn't the guy should think about it. How far ahead were they on the technology side when it came to having the touch screens to order your food. I mean it's incredible. Yeah everything is made to order and they like a gas station. No kinda love gas station. Gotta you gotta love them so they actually were big contract that we had within the company. So i did sales for him. We also dabbled a little bit into doing sales back in the days of musical. Equipments that we would have guitars and drums set sitting around the house. I none of which. I could play really really that stuff. I wish i was but and then we sold muscle cars for a while too. So i've always just dabbled little things which brought me back around to Being in the healthcare industry. When i moved back to columbus and health and wellness for about eight years and ironically amber i did do nutrition plans nutrition. I remember talking about this when i interviewed you three years ago. I did so i did. Some of that really enjoyed the industry always loved healthcare but decided it was time to kinda jump into something different and worked with startup. companies for about six years There's a company here in town called startups dot co. i worked with them and helping anywhere from business planning and consulting to looking for angel investors. So think about shark tank. Wow yeah literally. It felt like shark tank every day. You're listening to ideas and understanding where people are at and trying to help them find fun so lot of different things as you can see in my route leading to and then came into my life. I wanted to move more into mid sized to enterprise type sales Met someone who recommended hnb. I went in and immediately fell in love with a culture. Didn't come from an it background. So it's definitely been a learning curve. But what i love about. It is every day i learn something new. That never never ever is gonna stop. It's always evolving right. That's that's how. I got here. Ben company three years now. Oh three years. Well all right so Let me think about this is how old is h and be twenty four we know. Can you think we're and twenty six. Who started in ninety four. So i'm yellow. It'd be twenty six now. We're not good now. So i didn't realize they were around now on. Yeah wait a minute is the owner. Still there yeah. Yes so technically the h. m. b. Tom harris. John mcafee pat brennan. So pat brennan. Technically he retired. He actually still bills for us sometimes and works at clients in some programming. He's still kind of around But yeah the three of them started this in in ninety four because back in the day they all works for the larger consulting firms where they were traveling around. the country. know working crazy hours living out of suitcases. And they didn't want to do that anymore. But likes the concept of consulting and being able to provide that quality and caliber of a consultant to clients which is here local be gentler on air budgets and then still allow folks to have the cool consulting life where you're working with different business models using the latest technologies doing co projects helping businesses with their needs. But go to your own home at the end of the night rows kind of how it all bashed up rebid twenty realize the round for so long here that a lot. We do damn okay now. okay so you are tearing your business development rights of sales pretty much in hnb Amber you're recruiting so two different parts of the business account so both This question of can both you separate. Because it's gonna it affects your business model or you're part of the business differently so covid. What's that like. Ben for recruiting and i love to hear the stories about when you go into interview people in they looked all jacked up and stuff and i know that i have many great stories that the that the person like bully didn't match what i thought. Well i will tell you one time. This is kind of embarrassing that i talked to someone. This has been years ago on the phone and this was not during kobe times. But i think the person might not have been local. I can't fully recall the details but a deeper voiced individuals. So i the whole time that it was a male and then the person came in and it was a female just with a little deeper boy. So that was that was one. When didn't match what. I thought But i don't know that. During the kobe time i've had any any of that that so many One of my recruiting fox was telling me that the guy was too in. The interview is recruiter and had his face lake. Like right up. And she's like all. I could see what is it eyeball. That's funny yeah so so yeah covert. Obviously it has affected things. 'cause i typically would be meeting almost everyone in person as a first step and that fully changed. I don't get as much starbucks. Is i used to the they can go get it myself in. Drink it while. I'm on the phone but so yeah everything obviously is done. Be a phone in zoom in teams these days so that's changed but In terms of kind of what. My role looks like it really. Hasn't am. i still doing the same things that i've done. Pre covid Just not physically with people. So i miss. I miss that aspect for sure of in person with people. I'm a happy hour early. Nobody does not need be. I understand that one. That's that's how it is in sales. I miss my happy hours with so tarrant. What has cova done to the sales part of. Yeah it's definitely changed the way you go about sales so i was used to being able to walk into corporations and into client sites and sit down and have conversations and talk through problems and when you're trying to prospect for new potential opportunities it's it's a whole nother world right. Now everybody's online. I mean you're trying to ping them via linked in or maybe email and try to have a teams meeting where you're not quite getting that connection that you typically would. I've always liked to try and you can kind of read. How people are taking your message a lot more when you're in person i don't know if you guys have experienced this but i feel like over video chats or if people don't have the camera on especially you can't tell if your message is resonating with them at all it's been a challenge definitely something that's challenging and if you're like me you're constantly also getting pinged by messages over here from work. I've noticed that even with clients the that's a hard thing for them to they're talking to me and we're trying to have a conversation together but they're also getting paying fifty times just like i am over here so i it's definitely changed that dynamic of just that one unwind and like maybe even a happy hour where you're really sitting in having a bourbon and brainstorming about the different things that we can do to help. It's it's a challenge but one we had to adapt to right right. Yeah i don't like. I don't know either who most i'ma in person i like to chat meet up. I like the social interaction and young the personable that you get from one on one versus being over zoom Snow fun and when you work with teams like i do. And they don't put on their camera. One only knows how many times they've world there is a you know what i mean throwing caution to the wind on that one so okay so we need to know now. What h. b. is consulting firm. We are yeah are you went to or do you want me to occur. I'll start it off. And then i'm sure you can in your own spices new sales perspective But yeah like. I mentioned obviously when we started it was kind of coming from these big big consulting firms and wanted to bring that kind of to scale at a local level Kind of what. We focused on a lot. Historically is just custom application development when our clients couldn't find something off the shelf or out of the box he could concrete custom business solution for them Microsoft partners so we do a lot in that c. Sharp dot net space so a lot of it was just kind of custom application development or clients. And then obviously of we as we've grown any volved in really more specifically over probably the past year and a half to two years. We've gotten a lot more into the cloud base as well so now also able to help. Our clients migrate to the cloud and analyze data and have been getting more into machine. Learning are pa Kind of these other areas to stay entrenched with where the market's going Because technology is always changing and which. Jj always changing and helping our clients in these other avenues as well with whatever whatever their needs are waste. Your number Like i said we're we're obviously t consulting in. I think a lot of times when people i think about their. They're wondering are you a staffing firm. Then do you specifically do staffing agency. Really we really work on a lot. More projects i would say. That's our bread and butter. We're really good at getting into organizations and you know working partnering with them to understand their struggles their needs and then helping them to roadmap that amber said Cloud migration has definitely been a huge focus of ours. We i have to put this out there. We actually just got her. Yup certification through microsoft. So that makes one of fifteen partners in the whole country that can help with azure migrations. So i think that's something pretty special for our roadmap and our journey that we're able to start sharing with clients as they're also looking to make some changes and like amber set all the buzzwords automation in rpa and just modernizing in general. We we all hear those all the time. It's different for every company though so does a good job at drilling down and understanding what those words will mean for growth for the client. We're talking to so if the one guy is still there. What about the other two are they. We have three dudes ray yet so tom. Harris is our ceo. He's still at hnb and then we also have john mcafee. He's our cfo. He's there when we were pre covid. You know they were in the office every day when this fighting alongside to to try and help people with their their their journey. I should say oh okay. They're they're they're still around bill their glad them. They're still approachable. That's one thing. I love about each and be like literally you can walk down and you could just pop in and say hello to both. Oh really oh. that's good. Yeah they were. It's a funny story. Obviously since you know an g One of her favorite things was she actually has one of these on video. That will have to find some point. She liked to scare people. And so tom harris our ceo. We have a good video and this is from probably seven years ago. It's a long time ago that she hit in his office and so when he came in scared him and really. Angie be really shocking right. No they are. They've always been very approachable. And you know. I think for terron. I people that are were more in the office staff. We saw that consultants or not there all the time. I think we would say these things but still heavens intimidating. It's oh my gosh the ceo. But there especially. Tom i mean. He's very goofy and approachable. So all of the time they'd always be open to anyone coming in and just down to two. I'm trying to think if that was who was at the happy hour h. Be normally hosts the get with it. Happy hour before our conference the kickoff And of course we didn't have it this year and i don't think lash. I think it was two thousand eighteen. We had it at was it was at a brewery. I think it was across the street from strong water. Why can't with north high land grant leeann grand slam gray. Yes land grant. Was he the one that was there. I wonder if he was there because there is a big tough. Allah is if it's a tall guy than toll one's own those hammer. Dan but i think it was tom. Yeah and they were. I mean he was there. Partnered up with us ladies was great. He was so funny. Ugly tom he is funny cash. I want to say that. I i think it was him and he was there. We were getting ready to kick off her story. Which was that was the theme for that year a yeah so h. Has always been huge supporter of get with it which we love so Hopefully in person again next year is we're we're liaoning this year. That will be in per sons so Getting back to the way things were. I don't like the term new normal. No i don't like i don't like I don't like this are also. I don't wanna like the term so Yeah we're ready right now. This is new normal now but then maybe we'll have a new normal and will like that more navy. Yes straight fingers crossed getting back to the way things were yes. So okay so. This is off handed comma like question Throw you guys off minute. I'm scared now getting okay so other than the fact that you both enjoy working night h. Be what you do outside of work. Not work related like people like to hear that you're real normal you. We'll have amber. Who clearly is dressing up like saturday night. Live for holly for halloween. The cheerleaders rate we got the male here and We do a lot of just stunting at home. Go anywhere do anything anymore. We still practice like dang. That's yes although he he hurt his back a couple months ago so. We can't really do that any i'll do that. Don't hurt him even worse so other than that. What do you do for fun. Will i have a five year old and a youngest just turned three So i'm i feel like i'm mahmohd must of the time oca- you can say. Yes yes we do and you know what we. i think. My husband has tried before the not so into it yet. But the we'll get there. How are how old's the five year old. What if he is it. Okay yes he is five and then the three zero five is a girl or a boy girl yet. Raw salmon boyana boy girl. Five angry five year old to start kindergarten this year which we're time to start kindergarten. But luckily he's he's very personal every day He's stupid well. Oh that's good that's good. Yeah both my kids. They gave us an action online or in person. I was like you both are getting the hell out of my house done. I cannot deal with either one of you. And how old are your kids got. I have a high schooler teenager. Fourteen in a nine year old boy might. Teenager is a girl soccer. One of us will survive right. Don't they say that one of us will sit I already feel that way about my three year. Olds in. And it's not gonna be me that survives. Because she's the boss already. Oh you are in trouble amber. Yeah you're really in trouble you think. So that a diva on your hands go she. I'll tell you what she sure is yes. She's a project manager in the make and then she also knows how to bring it back in all the time because she'll be diva not nice but then she'll say mommy. Oh you happy. Are you happy smile smile. And she wants me to smile and then giggles so whatever she just did before. That doesn't matter because i'm melted on the floor Cow okay if you are a any animals no. I think the kids are animals enough. That's that is true. That is true. No i don't know that i keep them alive. I don't know that. I own an animal on top of them. Do anything as a family. Like anything fun. You can really great. I wish i had a greeting for that. So my before i had children i was into like community theater and i love to perform so i thought having children my life is going to be like living musical so i try and play that out. It's not they really once they can start thinking mom stock so sometimes i can get them to do stuff with me and i'm hoping my older one is in lessons right now. He started getting lessons and then the younger ones started dance class. So i'm building my stage right now. My poor husband with her back. He's just going to be laying on the ground background but dancer. I'll be the singer and we've got a piano player. I'm building my family band. My my my family performed a stage. Mom yes okay. Tehran me so no kids. Unfortunately i have lots of adorable little cousins. That i get to see on zoom right now. Unfortunately but i am a dog mom. We talked about that a little. Bit starring have doggies shit. Zoos i have a fifteen year old. Who is asleep right down here at my feet that i keep hoping he's not gonna wake up and start barking at me could happen just thing and then my other one. I'm not sure where he went so they are. They're my babies my babies so i enjoy having them but my husband and i especially with kobe. My husband was always a golfer but since code happened. I needed something to get me out of the house i needed to see people right. So golf is something i took up this year. I'm horrible at it but really really enjoying it. So love golf. Yeah yeah so A lot of people. Like i don't share with a lot of people but i was a downhill racer skier. Am on. i started when i was a and when all the way up and skied at michigan state. And when i was in high school. I picked up golf. And i played golf at michigan state to an um some but then turn the best part about golf. When you're middle aged is the car in the booze that is in that car golvin. Yes it is. It is lovely for those things. I'm not gonna lie. I think that's why. I've taken to it so i don't really care anymore if i hit the ball very good or not you know. I'm like no have fun. It's really about that and not holding people behind me. I try not to do that out here. I don't go with them because they probably have beer to. They just need to relax series. Terry everybody in the world just needs to chill out. Relax but i only partake in the drinking part of that and aamer. I know i've done that when we used to have h. b. golf outings every company company-wide. Yeah i would be the the beer cart certain about this outings. We need to bring those back. A young south it's outdoors so you're so yes gall that's yeah that's been my my new thing i'm gonna try and get some lessons just to make it a little better. We'll see but otherwise Drink more you just drink word. That right bits doesn't seem to work for me. I think it goes the opposite way. I'm like yeah. I don't care anymore. what else. We have the funny though right. That's the fun way it is. Yeah i do some volunteer work to obviously. There are some really cool organizations around town. I work a lot with asaka. Which is down senator association here in columbus so we do a big golf event every year and i help kinda getting sponsorships and then helping to make everything. Run well with the amazing team that they put everything together. That's another kind of hobby of mine is to to work with organizations like that and just stick to be able to help. I mean it's it's super fulfilling really great people there. Oh that's right number doesn't have time for that she's kids. I know i understand if i came volunteer hours my time to my children. They don't me anything. I'm volunteering for them. Yes i actually have to pay them. Typically in candy to do anything especially after trick or treat are your kids old lake too old for trick or treat are they so I daughter did not go trick or treating the share. You know what is to be honest with you. The whole thing was kind of like blah like even my nine year old said. I don't wanna go trick or treating and i was like really body. Go get candy. He's like no steal the candy bag. Gina here leg could buy it for me. Exactly and so yeah. He didn't want to go and it was raining. I was feeling like it's okay so ours was on saturday and that day was super night yet that it was nice. Not out here in the sticks. Yeah where are you at at. Nah ohio okay. Yeah yeah yeah You got your amazon's out here that's right. It's big four because they don't have to pay taxes for their. I get it so. I pay their taxes for them. That's your volunteer work I don't like it. So yes so all right so that was just a random. I always like to find out a little bit about people. Okay now what is going to happen. The rest of the year like individually with h. b. or like. Are you getting more. Contracts like people are telling me that they see the light at the end of the tunnel and businesses are picking up and whatnot from your perspective on recruiting and sales is. That true is that i would say us. Yeah i see a lot of companies that they're really starting to look at all right so we've been through. Covid are going through kobe. We see what it's done to our business all right. How do we grow now. How do we recover. How do we work with the word. We hate the new normal. Like i am seeing a ton of that. So i don't necessarily feel like things are slowing down for us at all. In fact i see that light at the end of the tunnel and it gets. It's getting brighter and brighter amber. How about for recruiting. What do you see that. Yeah i agree with that as well And i think i find that people are i think is a good sign that they're less may be nervous to take a new position at this point. Because i think at the very beginning of this there was. I was talking to a lot of people that were unfortunately laid laid off and so there was that whole situation but i like a lot of folks found roles and now i feel like i'm talking to other folks that are in that kind of passive. They'd be interested that they would feel comfortable enough. If we had an opportunity that they would be ready to make a move. So i think that's a good sign that just from a candidate perspective. That people are feeling more comfortable with kind of the state of things during all this. Yeah i mean this. So today's date is the tenth of november and like Covid cases are skyrocketing in to be honest with you. I think it's all false positives. But that's just my opinion but 'cause i didn't know where it just all of a sudden like you up ray and People are being cautious with masks and schools. Are you know lake cleaning all the time and all that kind of stuff. So do you see when you see this. I dunno sh change. Maybe as the best word for like are you. Seeing companies waiting to the beginning of the year or now i am seeing companies as far as if we're talking about you know. Are you going to be getting back into the office or you. What are you going to be doing. I'm not hearing a lot of people that going back into the office. By the beginning of the year. I say this out okay. So do they think it's do you say because of coping or do you think it's like people are financially economically looking at their footprint in society and the communities and being like hell. I can save a lot more money really. I think it's both i mean. Let's be honest. A lot of companies are realizing the savings that they can have by people working at home at first maybe they thought. Hey if i have people working at home. They're not going to be as productive. I don't know about you guys. But i have more trouble with work life balance. Now that i'm at home because my computer's rate here. I think companies are realizing that think it's both i think absolutely right. Yeah because if you think about people in the office what you go out to lunch or you stop at somebody's desk and have coffee and you chatted up and whatnot and At home people don't have anybody talk to now be. I'm like eight hours of seeing people co workers my husband and he's just any second he has you know where he's not working he's now heating is back because do both of your husband's work from home than two. Yeah so my husband's actually consultant in it for cis and he is upstairs in his office. And i'm down here in the basement. So he's my only worker now and we occasionally meet for lunch or coffee breaks in the kitchen. It's it's pretty funny that you're in the same house but we don't. We don't see each other a lot during the day. Really see a say. I know some people over there Vehicle good comedy good company. Good company so An amber your husband works at home to Yes yes okay so. I haven't asked this question as cracks me up. Because i've heard people talk about it. So taryn you said your husband's upstairs in your in the basement correct Have your own office well. Mine is a little section in the basement. And i'm not gonna complain about it because the basement has the cooler setup. Okay sure. I have my office at my treadmill over. There got a bar over here. Okay now it's okay so he can have his office upstairs. I'm fine with it. And what about you. Amber do you guys kind of the same but opposite level so my husband is in the actual office of the house as well and i am actually in the bedroom using a tv tray still after he cracks me up literally like it's embarrassing would show you. This is a tv throwing amberg her desk. And i keep saying. I mean i've said it for months i'm gonna get actual desk but i also i move around the house all day. I don't like it at one spot. So i'll be here so i can shut the door if i'm on meetings or whatever. Sometimes i'm a niche an island sometimes. I'm i'm just kind of all over the place. So i'm okay with and i think the other thing is i'm like man. I don't spend hundreds of dollars on a desk it. It's so funny. I went through a phase of moving around the house to got sick of my spot for a little while. Move but at the end of the day. I need all my monitors. So i had worked on a laptop now i cannot remember months nine eight months eight mono crazy to me and i'm just now that i'm like it's fine. Advise move around the post-lisbon wanna talk to me mentally Yeah we'll talk to you now. Yeah so i don't blame you there. Do you ever go outside. Though ideal. I have had Was well we already put. Air patio furniture. Which was a real bummer. Because this past weekend was beautiful. I would have worked outside over the weekends. I like to do that sometimes. It's great to turn off the camera and just go take a walk where you're on a meeting Nobody knows where you're at what you're doing but you're still paying attention. You're still attributing. It's all good looks right so yeah i was just curious because it cracks me up because people are telling me like i'm my husband's working from home or my wife is working from home. We're both in the same end so she made me be in the bedroom on the tv tray. Or and i'm like man. He's like a lot of people. Tell me they mix it up. And sal we in the very very beginning which i mean. The very beginning of this was just pure chaos with children. Were home with us while we're trying to work from home and that was a whole other madness at that point and we didn't even have anything in our office because we've only lived in this house for about a year. We had this actual office that we had never done anything with it so like hey we're going to finally get stuff for the office because working from home really at that point thinking we'll be here for a few weeks lich. Just get a desks here. We are may be permanently. Who knows yes. Eight years later. so Big question is ancient bagan. Go back. I think we have any air. Yeah bill for sure until throughout the rest of this year. I mean not going back there. Our main office is open. If anyone needs to physically go somewhere but again turned was saying with a lot of other companies. I think we are also saying. Hey it's been eight months or so we've still been super efficient and successful and So i will be curious myself to see moving forward because we have always historically been in person at our client sites forty hours a week So yeah. I don't know what the future will hold a full ever. Be back to a fully in person or i mean i think our hope is to at least get to stick higher but if it's just for happy hours at least the way then at some point so yeah i don't know we there's no no real plan yet. Nope and i keep hoping for a hybrid. I can totally issue that you know. Having a home base is always good to have somewhere to go to but most most of the people with an hiv are consultants. So they're really at the mercy but it's up to what that company that they're facing with is doing and the majority are not in office. There are some. I do have some clients but not many. Yeah i just Moving forward. Like i said i mean you a company can any company could look at it and be like i can spend more money on getting more developers in making more money than dishing out for office space electric and heating and cooling on all those things that go into meekness of a building and so I think the other cool thing that opens up is that historically h in be has been pretty much columbus focused and louisville. We have an office in you. Will i was gonna ask you. You guys have an office in louisville Right i don't say right i know i. I'm not sure. I know. I don't say right. I've been told multiple times that i don't say right. So i understand yet i'm not sure et cetera. Either but historically. I mean that's kind of where we focus was columbus and louisville. Who said it right. But this is really helped us to realize. I mean as i'm sure it is with other companies. We can really open up to anywhere now. Aiming our consultants don't have to be on site so it's pretty exciting when you think about it that way. The new opportunities that are out there okay. So how did it become in. Louisville has had that happen number. Do you think. I know but really. It's kind of just because we have a consultant to is from there originally Who was here in columbus for years. And then he and his wife were moving back there and he had a lot of connections in that market Of just saw an opportunity. He was starting to kind of make some things happen. And then it just went from there and we hired someone in sales down there and kinda just grew from having someone that was from there to build kind of a smaller little business down there. So i think that it's pretty small. It's been three to four years. Maybe we've been down there man. It's a small group. We're maybe ten that are down there and just like here. In columbus these consultants are typically just working with columbus science. Those are typically just working with louisville Clients but again. Now we're in the the remote era that they kind of do whatever which is also cold from a candidate perspective as well that i've never been able to consider folks that are not physically here and that want you know fully or partially remote sort of roles that opens up for us as well candidate pool That has been very small just here local in person people in columbus. So that's that's all is well. Yes definitely you can brand nationwide and get more candidates that way yet louisville's on the Roadmap forget with it so when ellie yelp a chapter in louisville so I think that's next year now. Twenty twenty two. I think is on. You would think i would now but i don't make sure that we know about that so we can get down there. Yes because actually will probably be reaching out to you guys because we'll need connections down there on people who might be interested in being part of get wet and the board and all that kind of stuff so yeah so we are looking to expand so okay. Well we need to do. A plug is hnb dot com jimmy that dot com net dot com. All right. let's try it again. It's mb net dot com. Okay all dot com. What why you need to make a jingle for be the place to be clearly can be. We'll be making no commercial amber will be kanana. So am you're out of columbus and louisville. But who knows who knows. Yeah you could take candidates from all over What other plugs would you all like to make. This is your plug time this summer exam now. I think we kind of said it a little bit. We're really big cloud space. And that's the direction of focus for us. So we're excited to be able to help companies With their roadmap there and the big thing with the certification with microsoft of companies are looking at azure and wondering how to get themselves more to the cloud. There's some really unique opportunities where we're able to help them with that. Potentially even with some funding backed by microsoft so really cool opportunities there but in general. Hnb is in the business of helping our clients solve problems that are specific to their business. I mean we work in public sector. We were in private sector. We see it all. So we're we're happy to have those discussions and see where we can help you to grow. And then from a recruiting standby anybody who knows. The cloud should reach out to amber to automation fleas. Yeah and also from the recruiting aspect of things. Some other things just to throw out about. Why shouldn't be so great that something is really important to as our culture. So we've got Coloring continuing education. Honestly we've got a cold group internally caught each be university and responsible for all the curriculum. So we're always doing lunch and learns deep divisions study groups who got a book club involved with a lot of different tech conferences in user groups in the area sponsors and sending books to be speakers and so a ton of opportunities to continue for our consultants to to learn grow in knowledge. Because as we said technology's always changing so we put a huge investment towards that continued education piece for consultants and then outside of that just culture in general as well. We've got another group in internally cottage connect and they're responsible for the fun stuff so typically normal times always have happy hours going on and kind of different events every year typically we would do a not tailgate pinball outing a ski outing a crew or clippers game A lotta different experts leagues throughout the year video game nights or gave nights something for everyone and obviously that's where that kind of camaraderie piece into to arkansas insults. Each other all day every day. Now none of us each other day so it's always great to kind of have that camaraderie aspect in that family feel And still have been trying to do some different things. Virtually virtual happy hours virtual game nights. Were coming up with different things up to still stay connected and engaged in these strange times but just some other things that are really important. That agent be. I think that's really cool. That each has that culture of the family and doing all those kind of fun things. I think when a company hits so many employees or gets to a certain size they forget about those small things that mean a lot to employees. And do even if it's just going bowling or whatever you know. It's that manages a lot to the employees of the of the company. So i think that's awesome. That ancient takes the time to recognize their and consultants rate that includes the consultants. Yeah sure 'cause the line here no. She takes a big lead in that at h. b. Oh yeah yet. Consultants are forgot about. I was working at a place. I was told because i was a consultant. I was pretty much gum on shoes. And i didn't matter so you know so that each can be has a cultural mindset making sure there fulltime employees and consultants are recognized and appreciated. That's really cool. And sorry. go ahead. I was gonna say i think it's important to say that our consultants the most part everybody there. Fte's they are full time employees. Which is something that makes us very different as well. Okay that's cool. I sure yeah. And i was gonna say from the recruiting perspective again. I definitely chatted with folks previously. Her were maybe in a situation like that where they were consultant. But they were like. Do i fit here at this client or a part of the company that i am hired here through. I don't really feel like i fit anywhere. so yeah that's for sure kind of first and foremost making sure that our consultants feel like a part of the family. You might not be here physically with us. You might be helping our clients and being at their their sites But making sure that they feel like a part of our family for some formats and take care of them. That's cool so there's one thing that amber hasn't mentioned that she does for h. m. b. that is very is that she helps us with our grad academy recruiting for it. So i'll let amber kinda stay it more. What grad academy is. But it's hnb's way of you know helping the it community and helping young developers as whatever their aspirations may be to really get their foot in the door and start learning. It's kind of that elevator. That accelerator type program. So number does all of that recruiting for us in its. She does a fantastic job with it every year and will thank you. Yeah that's another cool program. We have Each year we do our grad academy. It's our three week intensive training program. That's really for anyone. That's entry level so a lot of times it's folks that have come right out of college and four year computer science degree or we're doing a lot more with all of these different boot camps. There's so many difference. You know camp these days. That's if people that are career changers and and kinda going different directions so anyone that's really entry level that once a year each jim were able to bring them in and put them through this three weeks of intensive training mix of technology in soft skills for the world of consulting kind of a crash. Course learn everything they didn't learn in the classroom or in the boot camp To really have a smooth transition from college or camp or just career changing to come into jimmy to really learn how to be a successful consultant in our environment and it's all taught consultants of people that are obviously experts at what they do in living and breathing it every day. So it's been a really program a really successful program for us over the years able to bring in entry level talent and really kind of help shape and mold them in foster that growth to be successful consultants for us. That's really cool. Yeah yeah it is it. is this past. Year was the first year had to be virtual like everything else this but it's still it still happens. We still made a work. So i'm actually already in the process of recruiting and not officially hiring yet but almost there for folks for the june twenty twenty one class Unhelpfully partially be in my. That'll be exciting. It was so it was such a big production each year when we were in person. I mean they'd be learning they'd be there twelve hours a day for three weeks than normal forty hours a week after that. But what we're doing a lot of fun stuff as well. We were doing these events to promote the culture of h. b. escape rooms laser tag sky. Zone pins mechanical company. All of these things to kind of help them relax. While they're learning so much it's no one another have that camaraderie aspect and then just different happy hours and lynch meetings of senior leadership throughout the organization different practice directors for folks from every line of business to get a feel for all the moving parts and pieces that make agency as a whole so it was always so exciting every year for grad academy in these i always said my that are starting virtual but hopefully for to it. It's so cool. Because they do get to see so many different lines of the business and be able to choose which path most excites them. So you know for some people maybe. That's hey i really love doing salesforce. I want to be in that practice. Which we're a salesforce partner. Maybe automation and you know you. I panthers something or is it. Jarvis dot net. I mean it's really cool. Because they get a taste of all of that so that they can figure out which path makes most sense for them. That's really cool. Let's get because normally they're coming out of college or these boot camps in just getting thrown to the wind like a to sink or swim moment for a lot of them and to get them all little life rafts. There look cozy the rowen with the ancient day team instead of hanging on for dear life on the side of the boat. That's cool that's irate. Well ladies i thank you so much for coming on and telling us all about asian. Be and yourselves and putting up with me and whatnot so Thank you. We need to have a happy hour remembered. Tell my my girl. Sue and nj allston them it up from six feet apart this evening. Yes yes you can. What it right that will give. Stu got it. You got a on going gonna take it with you and get along. So yes and. I'm sure i'll be talking to you ladies real soon. Hopefully we'll be in person. Yes absolutely enjoy the beautiful day before it's on smells and whatnot. All thank you. All right will thank you ladies you. Thanks peter. noone. This episode is brought to you by hnb h. b. believes the cloud ecosystem is innovation and solution engineering. Engine future but getting there is a complex journey organizations partner with to get their people processes and technology to the cloud build a data driven culture in the cloud and drive innovation using ai and machine learning. Please visit h impede net dot com to learn more. Thanks for tuning in and. Don't forget to subscribe to our podcast and leave a review. We will see you next time and feel free to draw the line at get with it dot org.

columbus pat brennan John mcafee golf Hnb hp terron schaefer buddy h terron louisville tom Ben Microsoft Tom harris golvin jed asaka senator association Osu osu
1/22/21 - The Mo Egger Show

Mo Egger

2:07:11 hr | 3 months ago

1/22/21 - The Mo Egger Show

"Hey alexa what's the latest on the nba. Es thirty from i asked you finally ask timely question terron bland. I'm very tempted. I'm very tempted. I didn't know we were starting to show at this. But i'm happy as we are. I didn't know. But i'll tell you what. I'm very very tempted. Remorse ninety four. You know turn. There's three versions of this song. Ninety four version. There's the ninety nine version which is kind of cheaply edited. There's two thousand thirteen version. Which is actually really really good man. You ask the right question. We have the answers. What's going on. The knicks are good. Now i've been waiting my whole life to to root for a nicotine that actually looks like cares. I have one. I watched them last night. They whack the golden state. Warriors steph curry in the first half. Couldn't get a shot off. Draymond green wanted nothing to do with that. He was getting kicked out of games. Intentionally and the knicks are good. And i'm just telling you if ever end up being really really good you are going to hate how obnoxious i am. I'm not really allowed to talk about them. It is a cincinnati show. And so i will. I will keep things close to home. But i you know. Look let's be honest. The reds don't have a pulse. This offseason the bengals are in the middle of kind of a dead period. Uc's basketball's basketball's non-playing xavier basketball's not playing so we kind of like a wide hole of content to fill. Why not the knicks right. I won't torture you anymore. thank you tearing though. I'm glad we got to start the show with that. Hi my name's allegra. This is espn fifteen thirty. I'll hope your weekend is off to a great start it is. It's gorgeous outside. I don't know if it's warm or not but it is gorgeous outside coming up in about fifteen minutes a very overly simplistic overly simplistic view of the bengals. Offseason the draft plan the free agency plan. We'll do that coming up in about fifteen minutes and there is an area. There's a couple of area college basketball teams playing including n. You tonight live on. Espn fifteen thirty against robert. Moore's on the road. I back to back games between n. k. u. and the colonials but also uk basketball is back in action. This week and john calipari like in the crosshairs of everybody right now. If i'm a kentucky fan. I have all the faith in the world john calipari because this season could not be more of an outline for one. Simple reason we'll get to that coming up just about twenty five minutes. And yesterday we had fc. Cincinnati obtaining players in the mls super draft including a guy from the university of dayton yet. We have no idea when the seasons going to start the league and its players association or beefing with each other. Fc cincinnati moving into a new stadium. But we don't know when we'll talk about the off season to date the super draft class free agency and the season ahead with our buddy pat brennan from the cincinnati enquirer. Coming up at three forty five. Read stuff to get to in the four o'clock hour as well good. Nfl draft guests at five. Oh five papa. John's weekend tip off. We are loaded including a guy from canada making fun of the bengals uniform. I i want to start with this. Because there's a handful of figures that regardless of where you are where you live. who you root for. They're just such titanic iconic figures that when they pass you're almost obligated to talk about them and fitting under that category. Is hank aaron. Not just an iconic baseball player but an iconic figure in the history of this country and he passed away at the age of of eighty-six and a couple thoughts really quickly as somebody who is not old enough to have watched him play as a student of baseball to a degree and as a sports fan. Somebody who appreciates the games history as somebody who appreciates icons. What do i feel like. We should start the show by talking about hank. Aaron sometimes in sports you have people who are all time greats and yet. They're still almost underrated. Like i'm a huge fan. I think isaiah. Thomas is underrated. Why because you tend to think of him for like one or two things that kind of overshadow his overall greatness as ahah. Thomas is one of the best pure point guards i've ever watched. And arguably the best player of the nineteen eighty s and yet you of think of him as some of the missteps. He's had in his post playing career and storming off the court. After the ninety one eastern finals against the bulls various tussles. He had with guys controversial statements he made about larry bird and you know frankly. The teams were on sort of sandwiched between teams that the nba celebrates to this day and was on detroit teams that kind of beat the crap out of everybody and they were defensive oriented and sandwiched in between the the larry and magic error. And the jordan isaiah. Thomas was unbelievably. Good i think like in baseball. Sometimes you look guys numbers. I didn't realize that i was that. Good eddie murray. Quite dude kind of surly with the media played in baltimore played at the tail end of his career indians who went to the world series but spent a lot of time on a lot of bad teams also on some really really good orioles teams to the went to the world series. One that want it. But if i'm talking about like greatest hitters in the last forty fifty years chances are you're not going to mention his name. Do look at his numbers pre steroids insane think. Jackie robinson is underrated. Because we all know. He broke the color barrier tour which is obviously immensely important to a degree we sort of under underscore underscore under appreciate undermine his on field. Contributions insanely good player. Hank aaron i've i've even seen people tweet this and credit to them for doing it got i thought he was a guy who hit home runs and let's face it for many of us. A huge chunk of our lives were spent with hank. Aaron is the all time home run leader seven hundred and fifty five. You could take away. All those home runs. He would still have three thousand hits. This was a dude who was twenty. Five all star appearances. Most of them deserved. You could take his career. He's spent the first half of it. With the milwaukee braves the braves then moved to atlanta. He then came back late in his career and played a couple of seasons for the milwaukee. Brewers but you basically could cut his career in half milwaukee hank aaron and you have a hall of famer and then take the second half of his career atlanta hank aaron and you would have a hall of famer and i think to a degree but you hear the name but maybe if you're younger fan or you didn't grow up with it and you don't care that much about baseball. You hear the name. Hank aaron you think home runs dude from an offensive performance standpoint insane. The numbers are ridiculous. There's so many interesting things about him from what he went through as a player. I saw this about ninety minutes ago on twitter. The atlanta journal constitution. When hank aaron was pursuing babe. Ruth's home run record. Which obviously he tied in cincinnati on opening day. Nineteen seventy-four here. Marty brennaman first game first regular season game behind the microphone and he hit the home run in the first inning. We'll play call a little bit later on but what he was going through at the time to the point where the atlanta journal constitution had an obituary ready to go in the event that he got assassinated and some of the hate mail he got. We have athletes. Now the complaint about ran does tweeting them. Read about what hank. Aaron was going through in pursuit of a record that many people in this country did not want to see him break. It's remarkable and it's why as i've gotten older i've done not necessarily a shift on. Steroids and baseball is a whole. But on barry bonds as the all time home run leader at face value. It never offended. But then you think of what hank aaron went through in pursuit of that record he deserved to keep it and if he got knocked off the top if he got knocked off the throne his his record was broken. Deserved to be broken by somebody. Who did it the right way. And barry bonds did the best baseball player ever saw. Do it the right way hank. Aaron didn't just own that record. He deserved tony and if it was taken from him one day it needed to happen by somebody who did it clean with integrity. And i can't say that about barry bonds. Very few can one of the more interesting things about him. We always do in sports. Talk radio specifically these mount rushmore of cincinnati sports. And there's two things about that one. I hate doing those things just because everybody does them. They're kind of cliche. They're kind of played out also for four months when we had no sports. We did those things but if you were to do that exercise and maybe it's not top for maybe it's top five whatever but if you were to do that exercise and just talk about beloved athletes in. I don't know the fifty or sixty biggest sports markets in this country. Very few athletes would make the list in multiple cities like lebron. james probably would think he should cleveland. Miami there's not many others man. There really aren't hank. Aaron would milwaukee and atlanta and. I'm not that interested in debating with the mount. Rushmore of milwaukee wisconsin sports which obviously would involve a lotta great green bay packers players would obviously involve iconic milwaukee bucks players. But i think you get the point. Dude is beloved in milwaukee and atlanta. How athletes could you say that about where they are revered in multiple markets peyton. Manning is revered in indianapolis or at least he should be. I think he's appreciated in denver. You know i. I don't i talk brady. Might want a super bowl with the buccaneers. He should be revered in new england. I'm not sure they'll feel the same way about him. In tampa bay that they do new england because of time i can say with a fair amount of confidence that in two different cities in this country. Hank aaron is absolutely revered. There's one other thing about. This is remarkable to me and i've always maintain this every year. We have baseball hall of fame discussions. We're gonna have one next week. The class of two thousand and twenty one is going to be announced. There's there's a lot to suggest we're not gonna have anybody who gets the required seventy five percent from the baseball writers but we do this every single year. Two years ago derek. Jeter gets voted in a and three people. Don't vote for him right. The three and people lose their minds. I pay less attention to this than others. Remember when ken griffey junior got voted in now. Ken griffey junior be a first ballot hall of famer da. Three people didn't vote for him. Is it stupid that you're going to look at that balance. Not vote for griffey junior. Yes did i spend any time focusing on it. I didn't care. I mean i remember doing the show that day and we got off the six o'clock they announced that it's six o'clock i look at twitter and i'm like hey man that's cool as hell. Cincinnati guy who played for the reds from here. This guy went in with the highest at the time because mariano rivera has since gone in unanimously. This guy's going in with the highest percentage of votes ever. Let's celebrate that instead it's pitchforks. This has always been my take on this. If hank aaron didn't get in unanimously. I don't wanna hear about how fill in the blank player should have gotten in unanimously. And you could. You could apply this to god knows how many people if willie mays didn't get an unanimously of bob gibson didn't get in unanimously or stan. Musial unanimously just. Go down the list but for me. The one that i've i've always pointed to my dad used to say this to me. We talked about the hall of fame. Go dude nine. People didn't vote for hank. Aaron in one thousand nine hundred did not vote for hank. Aaron to make the hall of fame. Now do yourself a favor go to baseball reference page. Just there's certain there's certain players in different sports where you go to their whatever it is football reference or baseball reference page and you look at the numbers and it's just it's ridiculous and hank aaron's is one look at those numbers understand his place on the history of this country understand his place on the history of this sport then look at them statistically then consider what the guy had to go through and try to come up with some reason why he would not vote for him on the first ballot to be in the hall of fame if hank aaron couldn't go in unanimously guess what derek jeter get in line. Ken griffey junior get in line. Cal ripken greg maddux. Get in line all those guys hall of famers all those guys first ballot hall of famers but this is why. I don't lose my mind whenever we do the hall of fame. And i can't believe they weren't voted in unanimously. First of all who cares. They don't put it on the on the plaque. If you're in the hall of fame you're in the highest honor. You can have in the sport but my man. If forty years ago we could put hank aaron in with ninety five percent of whatever it was that the vote nine nine about that you. Sit down with your ballot. You're looking at all the names and you look third all time in hits at the number one all time at home runs a number one in total bases number one extra-base heads most all star game appearances top five in runs scored number one in rb is maybe next year. I mean legitimately. What's gonna vote for hank aaron. I can't get worked up. If derek jeter doesn't get every single vote or if wade boggs doesn't get every single vote or tony gwynn get every single vote or ken griffey. Junior doesn't get every single vote. Can't that to me is always been the one that i because i used to do this. When i was a kid who didn't vote for johnny bench. He'd say look man. If hank aaron couldn't get revolt you think johnny bench's going to so the titans in a sport that when they pass regardless of where you live it regardless of if you watch them play. I never watched that guy play baseball my life. He retired a year before. I was born there just bigger than life. They're they're bigger than the sport. There's a presence about them when they're you know you'd see him at a braves game or brace playoff game or the world series or something like that when they pass a significant really significant. And i think hank aaron's one of those one of those icons so it felt appropriate to start the show by talking about him and you're welcome to chime in a five one three seven four nine fifteen thirty eight six six seven. Oh two three seven seven six. You look at the balance at like you know. I mean it is legitimately like the basketball hall of fame. Michael jordan's on the ballot. What do you think god. I gotta take a look at the. Let me see how he stacks up in wind shares of julius erving. let's You know maybe we put them in the first ballot like dude. It's michael jordan and baseball. Nine people looked at the ballot in the winter of one thousand. Nine hundred eighty and said frank. Aaron i mean legitimately if you're if he can't go and unanimously frankly no player should go in unanimously. Twenty one minutes. After three o'clock my name allegra five one three seven four nine fifteen thirty. I'm on twitter at malaga. Fifteen thirty in about twenty five minutes pat brennan from the inquire on the a super draft class for fc cincinnati including a kid from ud plus calvin harris from wake forest and wins the season. Going to start a john calipari thought and i very sort of pseudo. Simple way of looking at the bengals off season. I'll share with you next on. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station. Podcast our show from podcast. Page of the spn fifteen thirty dot com and could also listen to it on the ban on the iheartradio app. Just like that lady just said it's twenty six after three. This is the sunniest. It's been in weeks. I mean it's like analyzing it might be twenty five degrees. I don't know i. I've been here since ten o'clock i mean i would. It was thirty one degrees when i left. Why am i talking about the weather. It's a sports show. Five one three seven four nine fifteen thirty eight six six seven two three seven seven six before we move on to a few bengals items. Nate is in mason and now on. Espn fifteen thirty. Hi nate goalmouth. What's up much Big fan of the show first of all. But you know hank aaron. He'd guarantee me as soon as i heard it that you've had. He's one of those baseball players that really transcends era. I remember i remember being. I'm twenty four. I never watched Hank aaron play in person. I've only watched reruns and whatnot. But i remember being a kid and When when griffey was in his prime. And i was like you know. That's the swing. That i wanna have batch the baseball player. I wanna be and my dad. Kinda scoff eating to watch taping. Because if you think this guy is good. You're in for a treat. And he was right. He that's base most fun. I've ever had watching a rerun based on with the painter and for sure well how long ago was the game. Was it back in the fifties sixties seventies. How long ago was i'd say you know. He probably pulled up. Like a highlight tape or something and The only one that stands out to me is you know the fish run around the bases. He was just one of those players that you wanted to watch. I wish i have been able to watch him in person. Yeah no i. It's funny always think of guys that people build up athletes that folks build up before your time and you go man. I wish i would have been able to watch him. I've never really thought about who would be at the top of my list. But he'd be on it he would be an interesting thing about him is like he. He he breaks the record in seventy four. He's a forty year old player. It's not like coming into that. Seventy four season. He was breaking down the year before he had forty homers and one hundred and twenty games with an opium over a thousand now. He hit atlanta fulton. County stadium was a very hitter friendly park but at the age of thirty nine dudes putting up forty bombs in three quarters of a season and throwing up. Mvp caliber numbers as a thirty seven year. Old in one thousand nine hundred seventy one. He led the league and opie s and slugging and plus which is ridiculous insane. At that point he was probably what one hundred eighty pounds soaking wet. I remember alfonso soriano. Oh hell yeah cubs rangers yankees there. Were folks when he was with the yankees. And i. I hate comparisons like this. Who would say like. There's there's some hank aaron and that guy because of the way he flips his wrist because of his forearm power. And i'm going i did. The middle infielder hank. Aaron was six listed as six foot in his prime listed as six foot. One hundred eighty five pounds if you were to look at him in his prime and then look at your look at aaron judge today or giancarlo stanton today guys like that would door for him and yet that dude has seven hundred fifty. Five home runs right. I can't even my head. Think of a a slugger power hitter even five hundred plus that. Was it the same stature. Six foot one eighty. you know. i can't even think off the top of my head. Yeah and you know. Part of it is neat. Thank you part of it. Is i think relatively. I don't wanna say commonplace but we you look at like your premier sluggers. Today i talked about this this past summer around the all star game every single year and then this has nothing to do with hang around the all star game every single year. Mlb network will show old home run derbies and show them from the event debuted in the mid eighty s. The us take place like one o'clock the monday before the all star game. It wasn't prime time. But they'll show some of the old home run derbies and then they'll show recent home run derbies then. Obviously you know the current the the modern homerun derby whatever year it is that homerun you look at the guy's hitting in that event in some of the footage of that event and compare the size of those guys to the size of the guys compete in it now and it's ridiculous ridiculous. There's a lot of reasons for that. And i think there's a different time for that discussion but yeah six listed looking at right now listed as six foot one eighty in his prime six foot one eighty hundred. Eighty pounds remarkable. Three thirty. my bengals thing here coming up here in just a bit. Mls super draft was yesterday will go through the class of players fc. Cincinnati got with our buddy pat brennan from the enquirer. And let's play a game of either or when it comes to the reds and this offseason and something that i think we overstate just a little bit. Plus there's a dude in canada who made fun of the bengals for changing. Uniforms will make fun of him. But i i will defend john calipari on espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station cincinnati. Bengals play here. Espn fifteen thirty local. Sports is service. Kelsey chevrolet home of lifetime powertrain protection guaranteed credit approval from their family to yours for life could kill shove dot com wards and the underground taryn. Now we're in my wheelhouse college basketball tonight on. Espn fifteen thousand first. Back to back between n. k. u. n. Robert morris tip tonight at seven pm pre game at six thirty right here on. Espn fifteen thirty cents. I just had to restart. My computer will see if i can do all of these off the top of my head. I'll commit them see if i've committed this to memory college basketball in the area tomorrow. Ohio state coming off their loss to produce kansin. That game. I think is at four o'clock. Is that checkoutigt your big. Osu guy. four o'clock dayton's on the road at vcu. That game is at four thirty tomorrow. Let's see let's see. Let's see the miami redhawks. Red hawks are playing this weekend. Indiana wins last night. Good for them bad. If you bet on iowa playing on sunday against rutgers. I know that that game's going to be at noon. They defended in the second half. Archie miller gets maybe his biggest win since he took over and bloomington. Good for archie. Good for archie and the kentucky wildcats are on the court. Tomorrow live on. Espn fifteen thirty. This game is going to tip off at six o'clock against that correct six. Pm pre game at four thirty wildcats. Losing that game that led by six with about two minutes to go against georgia. They've now lost three consecutive games. That game was there for the taking. They should have won. It had defensive breakdowns. They had some brain farts and john. Calipari is zeta jackson's blocked by the way was one of the dumbest plays that i've seen because he blocks it out of bounds. Georgia keeps the basketball instead of just corralling it. Keeping it blocking it to a teammate. He stands over the dude. Just great georgia gets to inbound which they do they laid in they score and kentucky loses their now four nine. Uk's and john calipari is saying someone's in. The hot seat suggests that he could be fired. I don't think that that's going to happen to john calipari. Here's what i do. Think i think number one. There's there's impatience. And i get it. It's kentucky two thousand and fifteen a long time ago. Two thousand twelve was almost a decade ago. Two thousand fifteen is the last time. Uk made the final four. Obviously they didn't have a chance last year but two thousand twelve. Last time they won a championship. And i think if you would've asked most just college basketball fans college basketball observers on the night in two thousand twelve when they beat kansas behind anthony davis and michael kidd gilchrist to win a national championship. If you would've said that night in two thousand twelve that we'll be sitting here nine years later i'm gonna go out on a limb and say that kentucky's knocking to win the national title this year and we would still be waiting for another championship from uk and not only that but they will have only gone to the final four twice. I think most people would have said there's no way they will do better and i think to a degree that sort of minimizes how hard it is to actually win a national title and they did have that great team in two thousand fifteen. That should have won it. But you know. A thousand shot clock violations against wisconsin. They lose that game obviously. The year before they had kind of underachieve during the season get to the final four and two thousand fourteen should have been yukon and did not things are talked about. Perhaps entirely differently if they closed the deal in those two seasons since two thousand fifteen. They've not gotten to a final four massively disappointing loss to auburn a couple of years ago. Who knows what would have happened last year. But there's impatience right there is there's impatience and the expectations. That uk are enormous. But for all this talk of well he's got a modernizes offense. I certainly am in favor of coaches rolling with the punches adapting with the times being willing to to not be rigid with what they're doing from a philosophy standpoint and there are probably some things that you could do in terms of its of their system to get more out of the talent that they have. I won't discount. That suddenly won't discount the the loss of kenny pain. Who's now on the staff with the new york knicks and what he meant to that program from the player development standpoint. But they don't have this year as a point guard and it doesn't matter who they've tried. They are insanely easy to defend. You watch them. Nobody can break down bounce and nobody can throw an entry pass. A none of them can shoot. Let's see what skills you looking for from a point. Guard dribble penetration entry passing. And if you can't do either of those things it'd be great if you could lift it and none of those guys can so they're really easy to defend. But what's one thing you typically count on john calipari to be able to get point guards. The same coach was brought in john. Wall tyler ulis brandon knight as much as he was beaten up team won a lot of games with him. Run to the point. Andrew harrison aaron fox. My new favorite player manual quickly. Marcus t i don list. And then tyreek. Kevin's derrick rose at memphis junk calipari with point guard. Nobody's talking about modernizing offense. John calipari without a point guard. Your offense looks like it's stuck in nineteen sixty two and i think that applies to most teams in college basketball other. Uc fan over the last twenty five years. The there's there's two different types of bearcat teams teams that had really good dynamic point guard play and teams that had guys like michael horton and justin jennifer. Who couldn't do anything dynamic justin. Jennifer became a pretty reliable three point shooter at the end of his career. But i think you get the point. We we did this thing with bob. Huggins at the end of his run at uc and granted. He never got a chance to coach this kid but for years toward the end it was this long list of michael. Horton's jehad muhammed's nick williams. That's like boy. He's got to evolve defensively and then he reverts devon down. Who never got to coach. And it's like you know what nobody would have been talking about him evolving offensively of here that guy running the point john calipari goes and gets point guards so chances are without doing a whole deep dive in the uk's recruiting. Because i don't feel like putting myself to sleep if there's one thing i kind of feel like. He's going to go to point guard and when he does that. Offense is pretty damn modern modernizes off. Your your offense always looks like go watch youtube video of like an nba game from nineteen fifty eight guys like dribbling with his back straight up in the air and he's got a flat palm the ground. That's what your offense looks like when you have no point guard that's what kentucky's offense looks like. You know it's the same stuff right when you got a guy could break guy down off the dribble when you've got a guy who create his own shot when you've got a guy who can get defense to collapse and got a guy who can make an entry pass when you got a guy who can hit a hit a cut off the pick and roll all these things that you gaze ball handlers cannot do and shoots no one's too. I know it's talking about the offense up to speed. There's the difference get a point guard. Sounds easy but if there's ever been a head coach who has a history of doing that. It's john calipari. Now here's the deal when when he's winning and he's being boisterous and he's having these long press conferences he's engaging and i love john calipari when he's winning it's it's engaging when he's losing and he starts talking about all the criticism that he's getting a little grading that's how it works when you have. A coach loved john caliber. And they're tough to watch man and they're easy to defend not good on the defensive end either. They at times look just completely broken. Disjointed and some of the rotation issues has been this year long saga how. He's going to play dante allen. Who's now going to come off the bench. I guess that those are issues that seem to be exclusive to this team but just in terms of the big picture criticism of him which i here folks a complaining that the offense needs modernize. We'll go get a tyler ulis. Go get a deer and fox. Suddenly it'll look pretty damn modern sixteen minutes away from four o'clock major league. Soccer doesn't have a draft it as a super draft. The super draft netted calvin harris from wake forest. What fc cincinnati fans need to know about him. And when's the damn season going to start all that with pat brennan from the enquirer. Next the brewers want marcelo zuma which only bring up. Because if you're wondering if any nationally central team had a pulse milwaukee does that brennan's here he Covers fc cincinnati for the inquirer and four cincinnati dot com and. He doesn't awesome job. The fc cincinnati off season is in full swing. We had the mls super draft yesterday. There's a player from ud that was taken by the way on twitter at p brennan ian q. How you doing them doing great. Thank you for having me on. And thank you for the awesome intro music. I assume you did that just for me absolutely not. That's all terribly. And i have nothing to do with that i i can't. I can barely do my part of the job. Much less his. Yeah i get that. Tell me about. Calvin harris what do fc. Cincinnati need to know about him. Yeah so he was the number two overall pick by fc cincinnati in the draft. Yesterday really interesting claire. This is not your typical collegiate. Drafty especially in soccer This is a guy who he's a real globetrotter. Born in middlesbrough england He's a permanent resident in hong kong Father used to play in the premier league and he moved to zealand's to continue his claim career at age fourteen. Unbeknownst to him. There's a fee rule. It's kind of weird. But basically he couldn't play in competitive matches or practice on an official basis with The team he signed with over there until he was aged eighteen so he waited it out. He dove headlong into his education and basically when he turned eighteen he took off like a rocket for this club called. Wellington phoenix there in new zealand. And it's the they are a member the only new zealand club to play in the australian Top league and It's it's a. It's a decent league to be fair faremo and this kid. Basically he's played the last two years at wake forest which is a great college soccer setup. One of the elites in the country in the acc but he could have been a pro if if circumstances within the game and some of these rules at broken differently for him he basically could have been playing in a really decent professional league over the last two years. So he's a goal score He's got good size goodspeed. there's always the caveat this year mo that he could go back and play in this spring this weird spring season that the nc is having because so many even though the acc played last year in the fall Fc cincinnati could put a claim on him and he could still go back and play in spring season. If i understand the rules correctly. That's something to keep an eye on but Yeah i mean they they got the guy out of date and some people say he's one of the best dribblers with the ball at his feet in the country and they got another decorated player out of australia. So we'll evaluate these guys over the course of months and years but Calvin harris at the top of their draft class really solid pick as a graduate of the university of dayton. I'm knocking let you gloss over. Potentially my new favorite player. First of all i need to know how to pronounce his name. He's from norway but he played you d. He was correct me if i'm wrong. The atlantic ten midfielder of the year or the atlantic ten offensive player of the year. One of those two either way but my guy is that yoenis federal burg. How do we say his name. Can he play. And will he be the next star for fc. Cincinnati mall fc. Cincinnati failed to provide me with the fanatical fanatical details for pronounce them. Come to the wrong shop there but He he he really is a great player. he led The ten last year in goals with eleven and Assists with nine which is like an incredible hall. Actually he was up there with some of the nation's leading score so This guy also played a little bit of like singing semi pro amateur. Pd l. With the dayton dutch lions some cincinnati fans will be familiar with them so the guys just got a lot of experience and again. Then there's a guy who is really like who fc cincinnati you could envision taking advantage of claiming him wouldn't count as a roster spot but would be essentially you know their player and he can go back to date and and they could monitor him for another year or another season anyway. This coming spring. When when some of the league's play again so That's a really interesting situation to watch there but Yeah i don't. I'm not taking nothing away from your alma mater. Don't calvin harris calvin harris. He's the how calvin harris that's fine. But calvin harris is not as smart as this guy. They got from norway who went to you. Ud because he was about clearly. But but here's here's what i can help you. I'm i'm resourceful. So on the internet. I found some two thousand eighteen dayton flyers soccer game notes. Are you ready. Here's how he pronounced his name right now. It's spelled j. E. l. d. rg according to their game notes. It's filed berg. So i'm going jonas filed berg joe. Well i'm going to say field like jonas burke. Okay we'll see all right. I'll get back. Young calvin harris is the headliner. We think we should be making a big deal about this guy seriously though Like i said the guy was professional level quality two years ago so Hopefully he's a guy that will shoot the ball from unexpected angles and unexpected moments and fc. Cincinnati i it addresses a need to mow because as you and i discussed At different points along the way last season They were not a very good team at putting the ball in the back of the net. They only scored twelve times and twenty three games. Two pretty big impediment to success so even if this guy ends up being a depth player or projects that goes out on loan He is One to keep an eye on. And i think he he could break through with this team and be like a maybe even have like a frankie and my Level impact where he contributes in year one outside of the super draft. They've acquired guys whose names. I don't have a hard time. Pronouncing like cody cropper. And ben minds. What can you tell me about them. Yeah well. I like the fact that we can pronounce their names. Because i'll tell you why like you know. It's the team seems to have a propensity for wanting to go overseas and get foreign players. Maybe some aging stardust and bring it into fc cincinnati. There are a lot of really serviceable american players. That you can get on the cheap to do a decent job. It's gonna cost you less money and you know there's the whole international roster spot rule you only get eight internationals unless they're permanent residents or have a green card It's just an easier way to do business when you guys here. So cody cropper backup goalkeeper. He has Done his time. Over in england got a lot of experience over there. Came back to the states was Regular starter for new england revolution in twenty seventeen. I wanna say played Started in twenty eight matches that season most recently comes from houston. He's a really serviceable backup. And he's really confident. When i talked to him last week he wants to push to be the starter here so And there's a great job in goalkeeping. Cincinnati right now a lot of room to maneuver there. I i don't. I don't think that's that situation is necessarily set in stone in terms of who's the one who's the to and who's the three And then then minds who is a winger He is twenty years old already has mls experience to be You know if we're being honest about this situation the new york red bulls who are really good evaluating talent and that's where he's come from the new york academy They cut him loose at age. Twenty so something. I didn't jive and Like i said the rebels a really good evaluating talent and they said essentially by not bringing him back or not finding a way to bring them back. We can do without this kid but you know what he played last season. He scored a goal last season. Mls and he has an affinity for fc cincinnati because he was part of The red bulls. Us l. team When they were playing at nippert stadium in the You know what was effectively minor league soccer here for a few years before they joined. Mls this is a guy that gets. How big fc. Cincinnati is in the community. And when you have someone who genuinely wants to be here and excited to come. I don't think you can underestimate that. The value of that at this point cincinnati's existence where they're scuttling for success trying to piece things together a little bit on the fly. It seems like sometimes and You know both these guys have genuine excitement to come to cincinnati so those those things in addition to the fact that they have A lot of room to grow and and take ownership of large role here at fc. Cincinnati i think. That's all very very encouraging i got. I got two and a half minutes here. I'm looking at the tweet. From don garber for the commissioner of major league soccer where he's throwing things at the players association. They're trying to figure out the collective bargaining agreement a year ago at this time. Fc cincinnati was. Getting ready to play a scrimmage at the end of january. Were nowhere near that. What is the status of the season. And as best as you can. When could you guess that the seasonable actually begin. Well i can tell you that. I i think it would be in the league's best interest and i know people around the league and ownership positions feel this way to mo- If you can delay the season give people an. I'm not gonna get political here with Talk of the vaccine. And and covert but There's a there's a train of thought that suggests that if you give the vaccine time to kind of Spread throughout the country and get needles in arms and all that and more people might be able to attend matches and ownership of these clubs might be able to recoup some of the money they lost and twenty twenty. That's a really big deal. Money's off in the bottom line and a lot of these discussions. I tend to think that. I've heard Dates and may throwing around. I don't know quite that late. But we're basically at a point now where they're not gonna start on time at least when they usually start. Which last year. The first came on march march one. Excuse me so. I tend to think the season's gonna kick off in in april and that's just that's just for the covert side of it. There's also the labor side like you said. The players association is peeved well This is the third time in less than a year. They've been forced to go to the bargaining table and The mo to most recent times. It's because mls wanted to renegotiate. Players are not happy about that so i don't think there's a quick and easy solution for that either. So you've got two things kinda working here against getting a season up and running out of. I don't think it's anyone's best interest to not play. Obviously and i think they will eventually but it could be a while before we make real progress and get into things. We're usually seeing this time of year. Like preseason the preseason games awesome stuff is always man. We'll do it again soon. Thanks so much all right mo thank you have a great one man you. That's our buddy pat brennan cincinnati dot com and the inquirer. He is on twitter at p brennan ian. It is four o'clock money's malaysia. Were guests free until five zero five when we have tony pauline pro football network and the nfl draft analyst. Podcast from the belief podcast. Now we're coming up in just about one hour at five zero five. Let's do either or when it comes to the reds next spn fifteen cincinnati bengals. Play here. Hey how you doing good afternoon money. This is espn fifteen thirty. It's the second hour of today's show in about fifteen minutes. I had a very very simple very simple two year. Plan for the bengals. I am not an nfl gm but a simple kind of basic two year plan. It's a little bit of an outline. A blueprint okay. We'll do that coming up in about fifteen minutes plus a cool event next weekend that You can help rivals come together to help small business. And we're going to hear this dude in canada What's the rod peterson. I never heard a rod. Peterson's apparently a big deal in canada. I mean are we. Don't big deal. He's on the game plus network in canada. He's a cfl play-by-play rod peter. Rod peterson up there and candidates making fun of the bengals uniforms. You're going to hear that rod. We're make rod. Peterson famous famous. We're gonna play his audio on our show to basically make it so that i don't have to work as much plus one hour a very good draft analyst by the name of the tony pauline as we talk about appropriately enough to draft and some college basketball in the last hour as well folks mad came to john kerry's defense it's going to get a point guard. He'll be fine authorizes offense get a point guard. Suddenly our offense looks modern. Meanwhile the reds offseason continues. Nothing is really happening but it is. It is somewhat refreshing to see their name connected to names of other shortstops who are available. And we've created this trio of shortstops that are all roughly the same age that each bring. Maybe a little bit more to the table. Then freddy galvez dead. But each have flaws in what they do so let me just approach it from this standpoint. The reds biggest issue last year scoring runs right. Did they didn't have a very good offense. For whatever reason you want to say they did not have a very good offense so what has to get better this offseason their offense so but the problem is there's not a lot of wiggle room right like joey vodka's going to be the first baseman again. Mike moustakas is going to be the second baseman. And there's good to this. Possibly a heinous juarez is going to be third. We'll see if they have a d. h. if they don't have a d. h. Gives see a lot of jesse winker but also some shogo akiyama got to figure out. What the newest sense l. casting janos is back. Maybe tyler stephenson can give them a little bit more offense behind the play tucker barnhart still going to catch a lot are the only hole is shortstop. So de gregori is his name has come up. Marcus simeon's name has come up. Andrew hilton simmons name has come up now simply from the standpoint of making the offense better. I'll take didi gregorius throwing. That's the guy that i want. I think he's the better off player. Had the better offensive season last year has had some some pretty quality offensive seasons in the past. If it's if it's between those three give me didi gregorious. My brain can really start to hurt whenever we really want to do. A deep dive into defense in not talking about just talking about defense but when we're really trying to separate three players who are all roughly the same age in terms of who's better defensively but a lot of signs point to angelsen simmons being the better defensive option but again the main thing this offseason gotta get better offensively so simply put for my money. At least the best option is didi and then honestly marcus. Simeon angelsen simmons. Kind of a wash. but it gets. Here's what i wanna know i. There's a couple of things that i want to know. And maybe you can help me with this. The first thing is this if the reds are markedly better offense. Is it going to be because they got ridiculous production from their shortstop or is it going to be because my stock is healthy. Any mashed and shogo akiyama got on base. The way he did the final three or four weeks of the season or nixon zell finally started to play to the level of where he was drafted. Which honestly i think might be kind of impossible. And nick cast janas looked more like the do the cubs god for two months in two thousand nineteen or joey votto found the fountain of youth. Or you heinous juarez. Hits forty five bombs. Is it going to be because of a combination of all those things or because they get markedly better production from their shortstop. My guess is regardless of what they do at shortstop that the offense upgrade is gonna come from players were here last year simply performing better which then makes me wonder. Is there a lot of value in overpaying for shortstop when you have a finite number of dollars to spend. There's something else about this next year next off season. We are going to have a possibly a historically great free agent shortstop class. Now some of these guys can obviously signed deals with the teams that are on right now. But as of today carlos correa cory seager trevor story francisco indoor and havi air. Baya's are going to be free agents. Now put yourself in. The shoes of degrees were angelsen. Simmons or marcus semi. You're either one of those guys. You play shortstop. You're not as good as those players. That i just mentioned. Those players had free agency next year. Do you want to be a free agent at the same time as those guys. I wouldn't right. Like i would. Not so i would a multi year deal so now the reg approach any one of these three shortstops and honestly i. I don't think there's a huge separation see. Trent rosecrans was a part of the peace in the athletic that they talked to some evaluators who basically say. Yes one's not that much better than the other of these three so the reds come to these guys and they have a connection with. Let's say it's dd says yeah. I'll come pay me. But i'm not doing a one year deal. I don't wanna hit free agency. These guys are all over thirty. The probably looking for their last multi year deal. They're doing a bad economic climate. But if i'm eating your glorious. I don't wanna be on. The open. market is the same time francisco. Lindor cory seager. Trevor story hobby by as or carlos. Correa if you're the reds are you signing either one of those players to a multi year deal when you have a finite number of resources available and you have jose garcia now. Jose garcia can't hit one. He might be able to hit what we saw last year is that dude look overmatched at the plate i mean just. He looked like a high school kid at the plate in a big league baseball game but in the field dude was fine in fact he was. I thought he was better than freddie galves. It was alright so you could possibly have to give a multi year deal to one of those three guys who aren't really going to be the difference in your offense being better and again. Dd might be a better player. Than freddie galvez offensively. Or maybe marcus orca and people get hung. what am i doing. Hung up on the two thousand nineteen season that was an outlier zach. One good half of an offensive season. His numbers were other worldly compared to what they normally are. I don't bet on outliers. I bet on the norm. The norm is murky simians career opie ss seven forty seven. It's kind of what. Freddie galvez is a little bit higher. So this is what i would want to know. You can get one of these shortstops. Maybe for more than one year. Do you really want them. And do you want to pay them money. That could possibly go towards making your bullpen better. Or do you want to give the starting shortstop job to jose garcia and he learns on the job he gives you better defense than freddie galvez. He doesn't give you anything offensively but let's face it again if the reds are going to be better off bentley this year and i mean like better enough to win a lot of games. It's going to be because mustafa's and cassiano vitamins whereas and akiyama had better seasons in twenty twenty one than it did in two thousand twenty then at the end of this year if you got you know what. Jose garcia is not the guy okay. Well then maybe you make a run it francisco door or you maker on cory seager. You'll make a run here bias. And in the interim you get some relief help again. Just say shave. Thirty million dollars off the payroll. So what does that mean. it means. They're not going to be just handing out blank cheques to whoever they can get it's going to be whatever upgrades they make are going to have to come on the cheap and they might say well. We'll get shortstop and not a relief. Pitcher they just sent away to really good relief pitchers the rice laziest slander is ridiculous. Don't get caught up on too bad outings last year. That dude was lights out in two thousand twenty recently. Glossiest is a really really really good relief pitcher. Maybe i can't get a guy like him. But brad hands available. Trevor rosenthal's available. Alex colom available. Right hand had an awesome season last year. Best era plus in strikeout-to-walk ratio of his career. And in this climate you might be able to get them for a bargain. Cleveland declined the ten million dollar option as quality pitcher. Some guys available your bullpens. A huge huge question mark. Because you're just let pretty good pitchers get away shortstop a question mark. Yeah but is it going to be is a shortstop going to be. What takes this team from sort of a middle of the road at best offense to an elite one. If the answer is yes okay. I don't see elite level shortstop who can do that. I see some guys who are maybe better than freddie galveston not so much who might want multi-year deals and maybe the market did takes that at some point. One of these guys get squeezed out. They've got a sign a one year contract. They do it here. There's a finite number of dollars to spend. And i'm not going to get a massive upgrade from freddie galveston short and i've got a guy who do one thing that's really important for a up you might be able to argue jose garcia right. Now is if he's not better than any of these guys. Defensively is close. Take what you get offensively. Hope that the offensive upgrades elsewhere come from within. And then at the end of the year you figure out. Where garcia is you a run at a better shortstop. You're not stuck with a guide to a multi year deal and in the interim you plug in area. That i think is a bigger question. Mark the bullpen is a whole to me is a question mark shortstop. Yeah i'd like a better player. But i gotta get better elsewhere before it matters in two thousand twelve to red zone. An excellent team starting staff never missed a start. Veto had a great year. Miss fifty games rolling captures the fountain of youth for two months. He's awesome tied frazier's revelation ryan ludwig kit. Some key home runs offensively at team's pretty good one. Great top to bottom pretty good and there was nothing to complain about how did pretty good bullpen one. Ninety seven games. So i would get phone calls about zach cozart gotta do better like oh wait a minute. You're complaining about the seven place hitter like that's that's pretty good man. That's that's all right. That's like having a house where everything works. Everything is fine but you've got a basement window that doesn't open like who cares and i remember the time going like man. Life is pretty good. If you're complaining about the seventh place hitter if the are legitimately good in two thousand and twenty one. I will be happy to complain about the shortstop happy to complain about what they're not getting me. Offensively if jose garcia can pick it and everybody else better. I'm not gonna care if jose garcia can hit or not and if nobody else in this team hits honestly whatever they do at shortstops not gonna matter so why not just play. The young guy used the money on relief help and then in a year revisit the shortstop thing and perhaps be in a position to get somebody who's better than these three guys. I don't think that's the majority opinion. I don't think that's the approach the reds are gonna take. I will tell you. That's the approach that i would take. You are welcome to disagree at five one. Three seven four nine fifteen thirty eight six seven three seven seven six. There's actually another option. And i give you coming up in the five o'clock hour but i I am going to give you. Maybe the least complex piece of bengals offseason analysis. You are ever going to hear. But i am absolutely right. Find out what. I'm talking about next. Hey alexa what's the latest on the nba. Getting espn thirty iheartradio. Fraud of the golden state warriors last night. Last time i heard this i can't. This is the first time in the history this show. The producer has left me almost speechless as made my day is made twenty four minutes. After four o'clock this is espn fifteen thirty. My name is melissa. Make fun of our our guy in canada's pissed off at the bengals are changing uniforms coming up in In in about twenty minutes. I this is. We're we're on the time of year where we're going to put the plows behind us. We do have. I will go over locks of the weekend again from earlier today because it's such a huge football weekend on sunday but we'll turn the page and then we we do a couple of different things one. We start to focus on what the bengals might be able to do in free agency. And i think this year requires the closer. We get to march a little bit deeper dive into some of the guys. The bengals should try to go after. And obviously there's going to be weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks of draft talk draft speculation. We have a good guest. Holly tony pauline. Who has a great draft podcast in a very cool website. Pro football network dot com. Their mock draft is really cool. And we'll talk about prospects and all that stuff and months to do that. I i'm gonna. I'm gonna look at this from a thirty thousand foot view. A lot of folks recently have tried to take a look at like well. Here's what's happening with all these teams playing in the playoffs and see how offensive minded they are but it just goes to show just get your offense fades and then just figure out what you can do on defense and i think that's a little bit of an oversimplification fails to credit the tampa bay buccaneers for what they've done defensively. If you follow that team all your long. Tom brady played really well this season but there were times where it kind of felt like he was still getting his feet underneath him or getting on the same page with his coach and the defense kept them viable. And frankly if our if we're list of reasons why they did what they did. Last week against the saints number one is drew brees is washed up number. Two todd bowles. Defense played really well and devon white. It's going to be a really good player in this league and then on multiple possessions that started in new orleans territory brady and the buccaneers offense found the end zone. There's room for defense but from the bengals standpoint. i like. There's no one way to win. I just look at what they have. And i look at what they need to do. Okay do we all want the bengals to play a championship level next year. Of course we do. The reality is this. They were four eleven. In one and aside from joe burrow's progress in the first half of the season they were never a factor this year. They were not relevant. The bengals didn't matter this year nationally. Aside from joe burrow they were non factor in the playoff race before you compete for the big prizes. You gotta be relevant. You've got a matter. Sometimes you can flip it instantly and you can matter overnight. There's a lot of people who cover the league who think that urban meyer is going to make that happen in jacksonville. I'm kind of skeptical. Because it feels like every year. I read about how the jaguars cap space and nobody ever wants to play there. But maybe urban meyer gets done. You gotta be relevant. I gotta take that step. Think bengals two thousand three four and five. Two thousand three was always a little bit of an outlier. Marvin lewis does a great job to me. The the real year paid attention to his. Oh four carson starts. They go eight nate. He didn't play the last two games but man they were relevant for. Oh three and four they matter they were relevant outside shot at the playoffs if they beat the rams or browns in the last two games of the season in two thousand and three during the postseason but the more important thing is they matter. Two thousand five. They had a team. I never by the narrative that if they would have beaten the steelers they win the super bowl of carson doesn't get hurt. They win the super bowl. But take my shot with that team with that. Offense defense least forced a lot of turnovers. There was a step they had to take first. You gotta matter and then he can win big to degree two thousand eleven and twelve. Were kinda similar. Two thousand eleven then went nine and seven. Let's be honest nine seventeen. Afc kind of watered down. that year schedule is favourable. They back into the postseason they got whacked by houston fine. Whatever but they mattered. Two thousand twelve kind of the same thing. They had to dig out from underneath the weight of a one in six start but they got to the postseason. Got beaten by houston. That game was maddening. Because andy dalton marvelous jay gruden decided to not throw the ball to aj green in the first half but for two years they mattered then in two thousand thirteen. Eleven and five eight zero at home really good team. I know things ended the way they did in the postseason to me. It was almost a gift that they played in the playoffs. The more important thing to me was bengals took a step forward. Those two years they mattered and then they got to a point where you could talk about them as super bowl contenders and thirteen fourteen and fifteen. We did in two thousand and twenty one. The realistic goal is the bengals have to be relevant in december. We came to talking about this team playing out the string. It can't be okay. Who's going to be the coach. You gotta matter all right. So how do you do that. What is the. What is the area of this team that gives them the best chance of mattering quarterback built around that there have been multiple discussions about. Where do you put your resources this offseason. What do you do in the draft. But i don't want them to ignore their defense. They're going to have to get better on the defensive line at some point but i am one hundred percent all in on the idea of of. Let's let's build as good of a passing attack as we possibly can. Let's make sure we protect joe burrow. Let's let's develop a really good core of pass catchers and then you know what we'll figure out the defense. Next year i know that that's an oversimplification. I'm also the guy that's been yelling and screaming. About how bad their personnel has been on defense for years. Let's matter i how do you do that. Give joe burrow. Keep them healthy. Give them dudes to throw to you do that. This team is going to be an every single game. They will not win all of them. They might not win most of them. And they're not gonna win enough to be a playoff team. In all likelihood matter i then contend matter i then contend by building your defense fortifying. Get free agents i. This is a very gross over simplification. And i know. It's a lot more complex than that. But as we sort of pitted the two sides of the ball against each other not just the bengals but around the nfl a defensive oriented team or an offensive oriented ballads and some teams. Throw it out of whack. The the las vegas raiders spent all their money on offense. They can stop anybody on. Defense and paul guenther. Pay the price for you. Don't want to do it that way but the easiest pathway to being relevant football team in the two thousand twenty one season is number nine number nine not being helped directly by getting a linebacker. Or putting your pass rush. I draft a corner. I wanna matter next year. How do i do that. Score a ton of points winsome shootouts. Lose some fixed the defense next offseason twenty nine away from five o'clock in new uniforms by the way we do from canada said something that i'm not sure it's true. It's about the bengals you'll here coming up in. Fourteen minutes delight the ball bowling bowl. You can bowl next weekend and help a pair of rivals help small business in this town and we'll spend some time on that next sure. Did sports update service. Kelsey chevrolet turned his show over. This is the show over music. Home of lifetime powertrain protection guarantee credit approval from their family to yours for a live to kill chev- dot com just got this note from uc. Just williams tweeted it out next. Saturday's uc men's basketball game at usf has been postponed. That's the game next week. At usf on the thirtieth that has been postponed to usf suspension of activities. As of now. The bearcat game against wichita state scheduled for wednesday is still on. But as we've come to learn here in two thousand twenty slash two thousand and twenty one. Such things are fluid college basketball tonight. We have in k. You taking on a robert morris gamble tip off at seven o'clock on espn fifteen thirty and legendary baseball hall of famer hank. Aaron passed away this morning at the age of eighty six twenty five minutes away from five o'clock really good draft guests coming up at five. Oh five papa. John's weekend tip off as we take a look at the games that are happening. This weekend will do that. Coming up in the five o'clock hour. This is i think really really cool. If you're a uc fan allom especially on twitter. You chances are really good chance you follow barstools. Cincinnati at uc borstal. There is also a a savior version. This and they're getting together. It's ex you barstool. and so. Obviously you see xavier rivals. They go at each other. They tweet at each other. It's all in good fun but there are joining forces for a cool event that you could be a part of and it's going to help out Area businesses. It's next weekend at stone. Lanes obviously pretty much right across the street from the xavier campus. Next sunday night. Seven to ten. It's barstool lex you and barstool barstool. Uc bowling night with all the proceeds going to the barstool fund to help small businesses survive. During covid this has been something spearheaded by barstool. Sports dot com. It is a noble effort. It is one that has helped out countless people who run small businesses. Who haven't been able to get help from government or who are really going through a tough time. Because of covid nineteen businesses. That have been shut down. Businesses were their hours have been curtailed businesses. That have just seen a significant decline in business. So they're helping out local businesses and who couldn't be behind that so. I wanted to spend a few minutes on the event and the effort. So josh miller from borstal cincinnati is here. I do a good job of explaining the event. Yeah absolutely a great explanation of the events and you got the location right and it's the help small businesses though. I think you've pretty much nailed it right. So let's let's let's elaborate on this though. The event is a week from a corrective nights seven. Ten o'clock that is correct. We decided to do it on the sunday before the super bowl that way. Nobody has anything going on. So what better. Way to spend your sunday evening then helping out small businesses and getting your bowl on twenty bucks to bowl. There's going to be pizza. Obviously if you're twenty one plus you can drink. There's going to be a gift basket raffle. What else is going to be happening. A week from sunday night. Well obviously there's going to be like you said it's gonna be twenty dollars the ball. You could still reserved your lanes. Now you can reserve your lanes You can pull into stone lanes right now in norwood at five one. Three three six nine seven zero zero three to reserve your lane only twenty dollars and then you mentioned. We are having a gift basket raffles which includes a year's subscription to the bearcat journal which i'm a member of their journal We have barstool merchandise ever going to be raffling off a nice paths blue ribbon ale golf bag absolutely beautiful full. Pbr's you have to be twenty one to put the raffling now we're going to have to ask you. Baskets some uc basket. And of course our friend. Tony pike is said that he is more than willing to science emergent. We will also be raffling off as well so really. I mean the idea is to raise money. Yes so the idea is basically we are going to raise money. One hundred percent of the proceeds are going to coach in the far so fund and And stones as well you mentioned the barstool fund for the uninitiated and believe it or not. There are some who are uninitiated. Explain that tell us where the money goes. Give us an idea of how the idea was hatched. Guys involvement has been absolutely so a couple of months ago. Our founder owner l. Pres- day portnoy started. What's called the school find In order to help out. Small bit small and struggling businesses This was in response to new york shutting indoor dining down now obviously it was started because they small long island restaurant called borelli's however this fund is for anybody across the country that is struggling You can apply if you are business. That is still needing funds and wants to become a part of it. you can apply Www dot the barstool fund dot com dash apply. and basically. If you just want to donate as well you can go right to the forest co-fund dot com and you can contribute to the fund right there. we are right now helping out about one hundred sixty seven businesses and we've raised over twenty nine million dollars in funds so stool and everybody contributing to the fund has put in a lot of effort and time. It's been really create to see something then twenty twenty. We really need it. And it's this is great. Here's what i like about this right. So the the uc's avia rivalry can get intense. It can get heated. It could get personal. You guys are sending all that aside. And we're talking about young powell sixteen. How old are you. I am twenty two senior. Your houston which i love. So there's kind of a knock young people college kids. They're interested in themselves are buried in their phones. All they care about his avocado toast. Which by the way is disgusting. And instead what we've proven here is. The rivalry is fun but we can set it. Aside for a common good and young people are going to be the ones getting us out of this mess which i like absolutely not only at my student at uc it debut at the school Basically who works there. That's dave and ryan. They're also students is dave. You're young and we know that jannati is a mecca for small businesses. And we thought. Oh what better way to do this. Then to have our own fundraising event and get people into local area around so they can come in and they can also contribute and also have some fun with it as well. I can't bowl to save. My life will half bumper lanes no if you need bumper land. I will find a way for that. Your lane will have bumpers up and you can even have that little slots a bad man if i show up. That's a bad. Look if i got a bumper lanes going to have to suck it up and see if i could bowl like may maybe crack one hundred ten. You want to go bowl next sunday night. i show up. Yeah stolen last time. Also stone lanes a guy back a rear ended me. So yeah i got rear ended at stone lanes. That's i mean that's debut for you. I mean that's that's i kinda did neither very good all right one more time. It's next sunday night. Seven ten and by the way this has to be mentioned you guys are enforcing rules mass social distancing all that stuff. We're not being irresponsible. Correct absolutely and we are doing everything we were going to do everything to keep. Stay and stay under at protocol but also on top of that. If you don't feel comfortable going that's totally fine and you still want to donate can do is you can go to our ben. Mo mo is at x. you barstool Obviously says accu bar was not my choice. The other with the other vice right that set it up but you can go to the van boat. You can donate whatever you want. And the best part is if you want to be featured on xu's barstools instagram for your donation. We will also do that and Anything that you can do really any promotion and he support any nation. It's greatly appreciated reserve lane. Five one three three nine six seven thousand three and again give us the website you can go ahead and go to want to donate to the go. The parcel fund dot com and then also if you are struggling businesses that want to become a part of the fun that is the barstool fund dot com gash. A plot parent says he's a good bowler my producer table and maintains. He's a good bowler he and i are coming there. I want to see you on the lanes as soon as possible when it opens up. All right sounds good. We'll we'll be there. We'll be there. We're coming next sunday. Be ready for us awesome. Great thank you guys so much. I really appreciate an and anything we do to help lebanon. Thanks much absolutely people are still doing. Good jason miller barstools cincinnati. I will tweet out a link to the flyer here but that the college kids kids. Ucf xaver coming together for a good cause. That's that's pretty good. If only if only grownups would sort of take the same approach. Get mad at each other because accounts basketball team. They root for we doing. So we'll turn your what what can you. What can you roll. i'm awful. I mean i'm it's been for think. The last time. I bowled was two thousand and thirteen. I mean get up there like in the one sixties. Really fine i cannot land last bold it was actually at stone lanes. Two thousand thirteen around the corner from where i live. Is it home game for you. Two thousand thirteen stone lands the time. Before then i went to stone leans. Dude rear ended me just right there in the parking lot but he get off your phone then so we'll show up and we'll and maybe we'll win something but we'll help small business quarter to five. Let's make fun of the dude in canada making fun of the. I don't even know that we can make fun of this guy. Because i don't know if he's right or wrong but he made fun of the bengals uniforms and so we'll we'll play the audio. We'll respond next on. Espn fifteen thirty seven away. From five o'clock this is. Espn thirty molester. Tony pauline from pro football network dot com. He's their chief draft analyst and he has a podcast as well on the believe podcast network. Hey we'll chat with him at five. Oh five the reds have made a trade. Are you ready for this red. Acquired righty hector perez from the toronto. Blue jays you're probably asking who who's hector perez. He's a guy who made his big league debut last year with the blue jays. He pitched one game he pitched in one game. I should say in that in that one game. He gave up two earned runs in an inning and two-thirds he's twenty four years old. He was a starter in aa in two thousand nineteen and he was rated by baseball. America's the number sixteen prospecting the astros system in two thousand seventeen the number seven prospect in two thousand eighteen. Then he went to toronto. He was ranked as their number nineteen prospect in two thousand and nineteen. The reds have acquired him in exchange for a player. To be named chances are the player has a name it just. We don't know who it is or cash. The forty man roster has said at thirty six welcome is cincinnati hector perez. Also if you missed it. The game next saturday against usf has been banged because of a covert issues at usf. Currently the bearcats game against wichita state scheduled for wednesday is still on. Yesterday we spent a lot of time talking about the the bengals getting new uniforms. They're get new unions the same helmet new uniforms. I am excited about this. I uniform change in sixteen years. I'm all in on this. Been waiting for new uniform. So the bengals for sixteen years. This is a man by the name of rod peterson. Rod peterson doesn't show in canada. As website is rod. Peterson dot com. Where you could find episodes of the rod show. He is also spent a lot of time as a play by play man for the canadian. Football league in the world hockey league. Rod peterson dot com. He's on twitter at rod peterson. Actually he now follows me on twitter about that. So there's everything you want to know about peterson. I can't tell you anything else. Except you're about to hear rod peterson. There must be nothing happening in canada right now. The hockey season is happening the toronto blue jays or like trying to get guys. I couldn't care less about canadian. Football league football so maybe that seasons. I don't have no idea the who on the grey cup as the great cup and decided nobody cares. You're goofy league with a three downs and guys in motion all over the place and your wide field. Anyway forget about that. Here's rod peterson banging on the bengals. Uniforms and my fear is he might be right. The bengals are getting new uniforms next year. Still going to suck i e lipstick on a pig what i love about the new platform rather than my old radio show and the fact that we're on television. Here's it's an entirely new audience. So my jokes and stories are knew everybody and opinions. Yes because i've often said the teams that sucked the most are the ones that go with the new uniform scheme. A new color scheme. Think about that. Who hasn't oh. Yeah the montreal canadiens the new york yankees the ones with the most championships right now. Where i was wrong was when the alouette went with the new uniform just the last season because i thought we've sucked canadian football. This is what they're thinking. We've sucked so bad. Let's distract everybody with a new logo and new color scheme. Think we're good again. Yeah and lo and behold damned. If they weren't really good and i'll give credit jerry jones and vernon adams junior for that but the bengals awful again. And how much could you change the new jersey's. I'd like to see what the jersey look like for the bengals. Why would you change those. Because they're probably not jersey's people in the jerseys you fix that and then you'll be on the road to greatness that's just strapped everybody. So rod peterson. How boring is the canadian. Football league when what. You're talking about on the game plus network in canada. Does that go to the whole country. That's a big damn country. How boring is the cfl when you have to go out of your country to talk about the bengals uniforms. You know what. I've never talked about on this show unless we have zakel on canadian football because he wanna grey cup and he's from here aside from that could not care less i to watch cfl games when i was a kid. Because that's what they showed on. Espn and it was football on during the day and they had two teams named the rough riders. How messed up is that league for years. They are two teams called the same thing and they have a fraction of the teams. The nfl by the way he mentioned the montreal canadians. I may casual hockey fan. The montreal canadians haven't even been in the stanley cup. Final since nineteen ninety-three berry melrose lost to them berry. Melrose has been on. Tv but not a league forever. Wayne gretzky played in that that stanley cup final wayne gretzky's been retired for more than twenty montreal. Canadian's that's the best you got. They'll change uniforms because they look cool. And there's a lot of history there so there's no reason to mess with a look at everybody. Everybody feel good team stinks. Montreal canadian's did the tampa. Bay buccaneers just changed uniforms. Having the buffalo bills gone through a uniform change or those teams playing this weekend. By the way. And there's i think there's some validity to that like. I don't say this to be mean because i love all the stuff the reds do but the reds do some stuff that distracts you write a couple years ago. Hey we're not going to be very good so you know what we're gonna do. We're going to have. Pete rose weekend. Look pete's come in by the time it gets here we're going to be twenty five games out of first place like there that happens. I'll admit that but if there's a team in sports that doesn't do that it's the bengals in fact we've been begging the bengals to distract us. Why do you think we wanna team hall of fame. They don't have one. Why do you think we want to ring of honor. They don't have one. Why do you think we want them to do things. Like get new. Uniforms upgrade the stadium. Put some decent concessions in it. Make it look less like your grandfather's basement in the concourses. Why because it would be a worthy distraction from the onfield product. The bengals don't up but they haven't changed uniforms and sixteen years and their uniforms have been ugly for sixteen years. This is overdue. If there's one thing the bengals do not do its destruction. The reds are good at it. Hey here's reds fast. It's a caravan. Look like it on loop and coming back. We're back ronald poster. We ninety four games last year but look over the bengals. I wish they would have bengals fest. They do the exact opposite of what rod peterson. Up there in. Canada just accused them of trying to distract anybody. They're trying to rebrand rod. Peterson just talked about rebranding. I guess he went from his radio show to a tv never heard of the guy but he referenced it there rebranding in life. Sometimes you got to rebrand one day. I'll probably have to remind i. That's that's all it is. It's a rebrand they've also gonna player who's jersey people want but the jerseys ugly so make it less ugly will sell more joe burrow jerseys. This isn't distracting anybody. The bengals never distract anybody in fact you could accuse them of actually doing everything. They can to bring attention to the fact that they never win the reds hall of fame class. Look we're bringing these former players back. Hey we're going to have a season of marty i mean. There's there's all sorts of distractions. I've been my entire life. I've been begging the bengals to distract me from the fact that they never win. Check out the rod peterson. Show every day at noon eastern on the game plus network watch real canadians. Last time they mattered. If you're gonna use a team bring up a team. That's played for a championship more recently than when i was in high school. I remember that stanley cup. Final for two reasons wayne gretzky was in it. They played the kings and berry melrose. Who used to play for the singers his hair. I remember watching that series going. My man's got some hair. Look at that couple minutes away from five o'clock five one three seven four nine fifteen thirty eight six six seven zero two three seven seven six dollars you he does. He does follow me. Actually he tweeted he re tweeted. My little here comes the rundown. Maybe he's listening rod. We'd love to hear from you by the way it's an equally slow news day here in cincinnati. I'm the i'm accusing him of having nothing to talk about. I just spent ten minutes on him. So who's the full now. Tony pauline is a very good. Nfl draft analyst chief draft analyst. He's not just a draft analyst. No no chief draft analyst. Okay no higher than chief Tony he's with pro football network dot com and a podcast on the believe podcast network in. We'll go through a number of bengals draft options next on. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station. Here we go here. We go five after five. This is espn fifteen thirty. Thank you so for joining us. I'll give you five. Reds shortstop options coming up in fifteen minutes papa. John's weekend tip off at the bottom of the hour and the one hundred eighty degree turn. I did not too long ago on the late. Great hank aaron who passed away today at the age of eighty six loaded. Our but i i've been looking forward to this because i spent a lot of time last night. I'm watching the new york knicks play. And as i'm doing that. I am Playing around with the mock draft simulator at the pro football network website pro football network dot com. It's it you know. We all do mock drafts. I'm now just gonna do my own on their mock draft simulator checkout pro football network. Also tony pauline. Who's with pro football network. He's actually their chief. Draft analyst is also the host of the believe in draft analyst. Podcast on the believe podcast network. He is the perfect guest to kind of launch us into a draft season which is just getting started and obviously a lot of questions about the bengals. Tony i appreciate the time how are you. I'm okay. Thanks for having me. I appreciate you. I appreciate you coming on. Let's let's just get right to the guy that we have spent the most amount of time so far talking about and that would be a nasal who we've been we've been slobbering over since the end of of the season since really frankly before the bengals season ended. Just put the film on me. There's a lot of people who have talked about this guy who haven't watched him and you couldn't obviously in two thousand and twenty so go back to two thousand nineteen oregon. Put the film on. Tell me why this guy is hands down the best tackle in this draft. He's probably the most athletic. He's the most natural at left tackle which is always a priority physician fluid sliding off the edge shows great blocking range and the ability to get out and knocked down speed rushers. Very effective in motion gets out to the second level shows the ability to annihilate linebackers of blocking emotion and his own a zone blocking type scheme. I think the one issue he may have is. He doesn't have the attitude. Religion always looked to bury opponents into the ground which you want to see an offensive lineman. But he's athletic. He's got upside and it should only get better in time the opt-out he didn't play. There's a handful of those around the nfl kids who are going to be in the draft who chose not to play in two thousand and twenty how much how much from a development standpoint does that hurt him. I mean it's going to hurt him. But when you look at the way you know. The pac twelve season went not so much oregon but some of the other teams but to oregon to an extent with games that were cancelled and games. That were missed and then no no well bowl games. I think he would have been better served. It had he played because he would have shown more development on the field. But i think when you look at the hot prospects who opted out sewell was probably the one that will be the least hurt by not playing in two thousand twenty. There are a lot of folks in this part of the country who probably really don't watch pac twelve football. It's a power five league. They had thirty two players from that conference. Get drafted last year. There are some big name programs. The perception of the league is that it lags behind the sec. The big twelve big ten stuff like that. The competition that peninsula will has gone up against in the pac twelve in two thousand nineteen before the opt out this year. Size that up in terms of an evaluation tool for what he can do at the next level. Well i mean. I would agree with that when you look at it About as far as back. Twelve not sizing up to the other Conference when you look at it from a team perspective but when you look at it you can't really broad brushed out or basically you can't extend that to an individual basis. I mean they. The usc ucla has had some very good defensive. Lineman out there. You got joe at tin. Who is probably going to be a third round pick who's in outstanding Pass rusher who also opted out this year. Who su'a went up against in two thousand nine hundred. Nineteen no shit. How macarthur who of oregon state did not have a good year this season but a year ago had twenty two and a half tackles for loss and fourteen and a half sacks oregon state. Obviously that's The oregon bitter instate rival so he's played some very good competition. You can't just dismiss it and say well. This guy played in the pac twelve. Th he was basically going up against garbage competition there is obviously a possibility. I think one might argue a likelihood that with the fifth overall. Pick as souls not there and there's other positions obviously the bengals target and. I'll ask you about some of those players. When i look at your your big board at pro football network dot com. I find five tackles listed between players number fourteen and number thirty to those. Those are first round guys but take peninsula and then take all those other tackles listed how steep drop off and could you ever justify one of those players in the top five at the Other than today will no. I mean i know that there are a couple of players that are getting some Some talk now conversation. You've got the offensive. I'm from north western wall. So was that out this year. That a lot of people think could be a top Fifteen pick i. Don't i don't agree with it. Were sean slater is a significant drop off after will the next offensive linemen. I think at least a half around. But i will tell you this even if soules not available the bengals in the first round there's gonna be a lot of good tackles and day to maybe not left tackles more so right tackle that i think we'll be quality starting Players in the nfl. Let's talk about the two players that we have spent a lot of time discussing a wide receiver. It was impossible to watch the national championship game. If you're a bengals fan and not slough salivate. At the possibility of devante smith catching passes from joe burrow and obviously he had a heisman trophy winning season an alabama. He was great. Jomar didn't play this year. But but there's a connection had a great year in two thousand nine hundred and lsu catching passes from from joe burrow separate. Those two players for me. I li- tamar chase great rated slightly higher than the monster smith i think about. The smith is a lot more than the national championship game. I think he's a lot more than two thousand twenty. I'll go on record saying he was the best receiver the best receiver prospect at alabama in two thousand nineteen and they had two first round two first round players at that position. Henry ruggs and jerry jeudy when you compare the two. I have jomar chase rated slightly higher only because he's a bit sturdier. He's got better bill. I think he's not gonna struggle as much in battles as will avant the smith. I think he's gonna be. It's gonna be easier for marchesi to get off a press coverage. I don't think he's gonna have to be protected as well. I think he's probably better downfield slightly better downfield threat than the vases smith and as good underneath receiver. I think he's believe it or not. And you talk about you know the national championship game and even his entire campaign in two thousand twenty one is in trophy. I think you mark chases a little bit more dynamic. The thing was he was overshadowed by joe burrow in two thousand. Nine hundred hundred. Lsu joe burrow had a great year. But i think joe burrow's year in two thousand nineteen and his march updraft. Wars was made much easier by having a guy like jamaal chased to throw the ball to twenty. Pauline is whether it's pro football network dot com. They can either go tackle. They go wide receiver. I'll ask you about other positions but you can't do both with the fifth overall. Pick last year. They take tee higgins. I i pick of the second round in what was described this as this extraordinarily historic class of of wide receivers. They're to wideouts. Cincinnati's are t higgins a second rounder tyler boyd. A second round. They still need help at that position if i if they're able to get peninsula number five there and that's where they go. What can you do at wide receiver in this draft. If you're the cincinnati bengals outside of round one depend on what you're looking for. I mean if you're looking for speed guy pure speed guy. Somebody like allies. You're more if he's available at the top around three from From mississippi who by the way just destroyed the alabama defense earlier this this year or earlier last year or less i should say i think that's a guy if you're looking for speech guy. Although he he may not be there hop around three and the for the early part around to maybe a little bit a little bit too Too early for him. I i mean i'm on raw. Saint brown of is coming off a slightly disappointing season. He'll be there for them as top of round two. He was expected to be a first round pick. Pylon wallace of oklahoma state penn station on receiver. Very much like brandon of arizona state last year who was selected in the first round by the san francisco. Forty niners not the fastest guy in the world but a sure handed guy who can separate through routes puff but also smart. They're going to be some good receivers if you're looking third round. Maybe a round of north carolina ticks. Twenty one hundred eighty pounds runs it runs and plays in the fourth. Threes needs a little bit more work on his game. but again. if you're looking for a more of a field stretcher the complementary higgins diomede brown and brown three someone. i think you'd look towards this team was very underwhelming defensively upfront. They were beaten up at the point of attack and injuries didn't help lack of production from gene atkins dozen help. Dj reader was and didn't even play half the season they moved on from carlos. They've got to keep kara lawson but they need edge help and i think they need help on the interior as well. That in this draft for the bengals is likely to not come on on thursday night. Assess the depth on the defensive line in this draft for me not good. It definitely won't come on thursday night primarily because i it's not a good year for edge rushers and it's even worse year for Defensive tackles i mean your first defensive tackle off the board is a guy who's probably gonna be taking in you know in the middle of round two or maybe early around too and that would be dahbi nixon of iowa who they could take Around to if they're looking for that type of player christian bar more defensive tackle from alabama. You talk about that national championship game. He was fantastic. He's a natural pass. Rusher on the inside is probably best in a format line. So that's somebody else i. I think that they may look to At that position. When you're looking at a edge rusher pass rushers two guys at the talent. Three guys at the top Ronnie perkins of oklahoma and gregory russo of Miami then going to be first rounders after that. It's anybody's guess. They could come away with a guy like quick. Hey michigan if he slides into the top around to which i think is a possibility real. Good edge rusher. Great story a guy. That's got a bit of upside. Patrick jones pittsburgh guy was coming off a terrific year. Some people think he's the first round. I think it's a little bit too small to be a first round because you're going to be a lively against iran. You know maybe a good edge rush around to maybe good defensive tackle but no short things that either of those positions fantastic analysis pro football network dot com the mock draft simulator is a really fun tool. You'll enjoy it this week and make sure you check out the believe and draft analyst podcasts. The belief podcast network. Tony pauline is the chief draft analyst from of underground pro football network dot com and also the host of the podcast that i just mentioned. I appreciate the time and have a good weekend. Thanks so much. Thank you have you gotta tony. Pauline believe in draft analyst. Podcast on the believe podcast network. Seventeen minutes after five o'clock numbers five three seven four nine fifteen thirty taryn we had. We were making fun of the guy from canada. Rod rod peterson. So here's here's what happens. If you go on social media every hour. I tweet you know. Here's what's coming up. And then there's always a link to listen which is espn fifteen. Thirty dot com. So i tweet out that we're gonna make fun of this guy making fun of the bengals changing uniforms. And i. i had to learn about rod peterson. This guy has all of canada disposal the entire country. This guy speaks to the entire country. So what does he do he re tweets it which is really cool. And he writes. This should be good for forty. Two what do. I do well when i sent a tweet instead of. Espn fifteen thirty dot com slash. Listen i type. Espn fifteen oh. Three dot com slash. Listen which doesn't exist so who knows what kind of reach this guy. Has this dude who speaks to an entire country. We could have spoken to all of canada. This has an immense amount of juice over twenty thousand followers up there in canada. And i don't tweet out the right linked to listen to the show. Espn fifteen three dot com slash. Listen can can we speak to the folks in digital programming to see if for the sake of my fat fingers and overall ineptitude we could buy fifteen zero. Three dot com slash. Listen and and have it direct to the same place where you listen to. Espn fifteen thirty dot com slash. Listen air it is looking at it right now. Fifteen zero three dot com slash. Listen so maybe some folks who follow rod peterson like yeah. I want to hear this dude. And cincinnati rag on our guy for making fun of the bengals uniform switch and they go to it and they click on a site that doesn't exist if there has ever been my career a microcosm of my career and the ineptitude. The continuingly keeps me from reaching my full potential. This is it fifteen. Three dot com slash. Listen i mean legitimately how. I've been able to do this. This long is staggering twenty minutes. After five o'clock. I'll give you five options for the shortstop in two thousand and twenty one right here on. Espn fifteen zero three cincinnati sports station. Twenty five twenty four. I'm getting out of myself party show to be over twenty four minutes after four. We just stop the music. Just stop to stop the music and let's let's restart here okay. Play the last commercial and then play the music and will restart the segments. Since i have totally screwed this up within the first five seconds in capable of charging out of the break to even give the correct time. I screwed up twice. Espn fifteen links with the iheartradio app for podcast. Espn fifteen thirty. And i heart. Radio stations. twenty four minutes. After five o'clock this is espn fifteen. Thirty names molecular this the One of the great things about doing a live radio show as you never know what's next. There's always something lurking behind the next door. The next segment. You never know you could. You could sit down and you can map out of show. You could plan out everything you do everything within your power to script it. You could do everything in your power to plan every single second that you're on the air and it could all blow up in an instant. There is breaking news there's technical malfunctions there's sheer ineptitude by the host. There's all sorts of different things that can happen. It was an unexpected guest guest. Cancels on you at the last second or call or throw something at you. The great thing like this isn't tv news. We're not reading off a teleprompter. Okay this is a podcast or we can just go back and do it again. Even though we literally just did so the reason i bring this up is typically. The call screen is a bit of a guide so it might say steven. Hamilton wants to ask a question about joe burrow. But what we've embraced here is the unknown. Were now it says. Ken mason and literally nothing under what he wants to talk about. Literally it says nothing about so we're all gonna find out together. Ken mason you're on. Espn fifteen thirty. What's going on. I have one problem with your last hour segment. You had mentioned rebranding. I didn't realize it moyo ever actually had her brand. I don't that's my problem. I as soon as i get a brand and some talent. I'm going to be unstoppable in this business out of san lodi and by the way sort of the people that i worked for. I guess my real question is why. Why are the browns so reluctant to do a ray-ban or do you have any idea why mike brown has gone on record in the past is saying that quote. We don't trade in stall jay here now. He has acknowledged that it's something that others in the organization have pushed him for the they. Just don't see the value in it. They don't see the value in it. They don't see the value in it in terms of being something that would sell tickets. And maybe they're right. I don't think they see the value and making people feel good. I just think they view. I think mike brown specifically. I don't wanna say that. I think mike brown specifically doesn't view doesn't see the value in making customers. Feel good in ways that go beyond just simply deliver wins. You know what i mean. Does that make sense. Probably i don't. I don't think it's i don't think it's a matter of being cheap. It takes no money to put a ring of honor. I don't think it's bad. just think they just. He doesn't see the value in it. But do you think that's probably why we don't have more people than all i think. I don't think it helps. I don't know if it's the reason. I've i've touched on that. Before it's like with ken riley ken riley passed away last year and it. It's awful that he didn't have a chance to have his moment in a bengals hall of fame right. Not everybody's gonna get to canton. But he is arguably not arguing. He's one of the best players to not be in the hall of fame. But i wonder i wonder what what validity there is to the suggestion that if you look at him and go. His own team didn't seem seem to honor him didn't seem it fit to honor him. So why should we. If he's not a bengals hall of famer why should he be a pro pro football hall of famer. i think. There's there's merit to that. Yeah i do too and i. i can't understand. Why don't you think that every time they showed the bengals the can intercept fourteen up there. It would bring him back to the people. Yes whatever you're not getting in. Yeah i do think there's some validity to that. I mean. look at both of those guys. I've heard the arguments why they're not in kent. Riley amassed a lot of interceptions because they threw his way because he played opposite lamar pierre. I've heard that i've heard the ken anderson. While he looked quarterbacks win the super bowl and kind of differentiated himself from other guys in. I get it. They're borderline cases and that's fine. But yeah i just from an individual voter standpoint or somebody who's being asked to consider hall of fame nominees. I just wonder if even subconsciously. Something to the idea of. Oh yeah kenny anderson. They were just talking about him during a bengals broadcast. I just saw piece written about him. Because he's back in cincinnati and they put them in the team hall of fame and it's made me rethink his candidacy. Instead they're out of sight out of mind and that certainly doesn't help. I don't know how much it hurts but it certainly doesn't help. Thank you all right. Can i just think it's. I don't think it's anything sinister. I don't think it's anything wrong. I just think. Mike brown specifically doesn't see the value in that. I just think he an antiquated way of looking at things. If we win games fans are going to be happy and they'll come and there's a lot of truth to that but there is also value and making people feel good nostalgia makes people feel good and look to a degree. I'm not a huge. Hey remember when guy. That's another look ahead. I'd rather look at what's happening now but nostalgia does make people feel good two years ago. They brought back the eighteen. That's the team of my youth. And if you're roughly my age. I think you're nodding along right now. And we're not talking about a team full of pro football legends. Anthony moon is then. It's a bunch of really good players but seeing those guys on the field was for the thursday night game two years ago against baltimore that schools now grant made me as a fan feel good. I remember being eleven years old watching those guys. Does that sell tickets debatable does. Does that help you win. No but is there value in it if the answer is no then. Why does every other other team doing the pittsburgh. Steelers do it. Pretty good franchise. New england patriots have team hall of fame. Pretty good franchise. Green bay packers have beautiful hall of fame spectacular. Pretty good franchise you can do. Both nobody would do if there was value in it. And i do think there's something to that idea of. You know kenny. Anderson's been retired for thirty four years so his candidacy is coming up because the pro football hall of fame has opened up for you know. Players who have the previous eligibility has expired. Can he has been a coach in this league with the bengals for a long time went to pittsburgh i mean. He coached deep into the twenty first century but largely out of sight. Out of mind. You just you wonder you wonder if he was the bengals had a big event. Let's say it's for a prime time game and before a monday night or they put them in the team hall of fame and they have kenny anderson. I just i. It can't hurt right. And the ken riley piece and i would say this about a lot of guys of his era not everybody gets their moment in the pro football hall of fame. Not everybody's going to get their moment in cooperstown but the reds gave concepcion his should davey be in cooperstown. I think so but you know what. They retired his jersey number. They put him in the team hall of fame. He's had a chance to be celebrated cheered adored. Boy that matters how that matters. Not everybody's going to get to cooperstown. Dave parker i believe day. Parker should be in the hall of fame. Dave parker was a better player than herald. Beans and harold baines is in but the pittsburgh pirates and the cincinnati reds have put him in their hall of fame took the reds awhile and he wasn't a red for a very long time. But he's deserving dave parker has parkinson's maybe he gets cooperstown one day. I hope he's alive for but you know what one of my favorite all time players got his moment. A great american ballpark. The pittsburgh pirates have done the same and that is awesome. And it's deserved the fact ken past and never got. That moment is tragic to me. And i don't wanna see that happen with guys like kenny anderson. I don't wanna say sam. Why should a sandwich the hall of fame as a coach. But you cannot tell the history of this franchise. You can't tell the history of sports in this town without talking about sam white sam. Wish think he'd be in the hall of fame. I do passed away a year ago. Never gonna get that moment. It's one thing for fans do right by the players to right by the guys who played for you build up some equity by those guys. We do four times a year an event for advertisers. where like three or four former. Bengals do a luncheon with them and it's players across different eras and it's great all of them talk about the bengals. We us like they. Want to be a part of the franchise. Most of them have nothing to do with my because they don't want anything to do with it. The team wants nothing to do with them or doesn't show any inclination to do anything with them. And yeah they did the whole thing with the first fifty and that was cool and well done and engaging people felt good about it do it for fans but do it for the actual players. You want to say ken. Riley is not a pro football hall of fame. That's fine not everybody's going to be that dude should've gotten his moment cheered adored his story told he talks teammates talk. There's a video pre-game ceremony halftime ceremony. Whatever it is and if you're too young to remember your learn a little bit about a key member of bengals history. And if you're old enough to remember ken riley play. I kind of makes you feel good more than anything. It celebrates the player who deserves that moment and in almost every other. Nfl town great players even on teams. That aren't good. Great players get those moments. We make a big deal about willie anderson willie. Anderson has a hall of fame case. It'd be kinda cool ring von or will not in the thing is these things aren't hard you don't have to build a building. You don't have to spend a lot of money. You don't have to do this. Huge civic effort pay before the opener were going to celebrate these four players ring of honor. It ended just how easy it is and you know. It's one thing to resist something that's difficult. Why resist something. That's easy in which there is no downside. I mean like literally zero downside and the fact that they've been resistant is it. I hate it but they just don't see the value in it. That's the reason. I don't like it but that's how it is. I do think it's going to change one day. I really really do think it's going to change. And i think it's gonna change sometime soon but unfortunately it's not going to change in time for a guy like ken riley or garlic sandwich papa. John's weekend tip off in the resume tree next. Espn fifteen thirty minutes away from six. This is espn fifteen thirty. My name's mulligan. The knicks could as well sports update is service of kelsey chevrolet. Home of lifetime powertrain protection guaranteed credit approval from their family to yours for life. Kelsey chef dot com reds have acquired from toronto hector perez exchange for a player to be named later or cash precious a twenty four year old guy last year made his major league debut. He pitched in one game gave up two runs in an inning. In two-thirds he was ranked as the blue jays nineteenth best prospect in two thousand and nineteen. He is now a red the uc game. They're not playing this week in the bearcats. They're also not gonna play next week and usf has cove nineteen issues. So the bearcats game in tampa against usf has been postponed right now. They are scheduled. Still to play wichita state on wednesday. We'll see about that. Obviously xavier not playing. This weekend is brings us to the papa. John's weekend tipoff as a service of your locally owned and operated papa. John's stores look when you get stuffed in basketball. That's not good when you get stuff papa. John's that's really good papa. John's new stuff cross pizza. My wife and i got a couple of days on wednesday night and they were money. Fresh never frozen original crust hand handcuffed extra cheese. Gooey goodness i mean come on right right now you can get a large one topping stuffed crust pizza for twelve bucks at papa. John's dot com. Thanks to your locally owned and operated papa. John's stores don't even need a promo code. Check it out right now. John dot com. That brings us to the papa. John's weekend tip off because houston's avia aren't playing a slightly abbreviated slate. This weekend begin with tonight's game N que us in pennsylvania for the first of back to back games against robert morris. Colonials are three and five two and three in the league. The north of lost four straight games there last one that have a heartbreaker on saturday against. Up y two game in which The north took a one point. Lead four eighteen to go then. There were mislabeled. Ms turn miss free throws turnovers bad defensive execution and they lose the game by to try to get back on a winning track who who speaks like that Tip off at seven o'clock pre game at six thirty not five thirty six thirty by the way. Terron robert morris of their most famous alums. Stephanie mcmahon vince. mcmahon's daughter. Stephanie mcmahon villain. He'll oh she's married to the triple. H guy is that is that in real life or is that just on. Yeah tomorrow in madison wisconsin. Ohio state appropriately. Enough plays wisconsin. Game is going to be at four o'clock tomorrow. Buckeyes coming off a really tough loss to purdue there sliding down the standings in the big ten. Badgers were pummeled. Last week by michigan which was a lot more about what the wolverines did. They have bounceback since they've won a couple of games and cj walker whose missed the last four games. A buckeyes looks like there's a pretty decent at this hand. Injury actually suffered it before. The season hasn't played in the last four. Looks like there's a decent chance he's on the court tomorrow. It's an interesting game even without two point guards. Ohio state has limited turnovers. Wisconsin is not a team that turns anybody over so tomorrow's goal for the buckeyes zero turnovers like literally. Chris hoffman said that that's not angry. I couldn't care less but chris. Holtman said that. So ohio state of wisconsin tomorrow at four. Pm tomorrow afternoon. The dayton flyers after having a game postponed their back on the court against a v. c. You this game will be at four thirty tomorrow. Flyers lead the rams by half game in the eight ten standings. They have one free straight after the meltdown on the road against fordham. Big or big. They want every atlantic ten game last year. They've lost two so far in the league. By tudela sow at home game. They should have won an on the road by one to fordham. Who's awful. They've won just one game this year. Three points away from being unbeaten league again They're not though but They will play. Vcu tomorrow and jalen crutcher is starting to get going for all the criticism. He took dude shoot and close to fifty four percent. He's averaging almost twenty a game and he was really good in the one game. They played against george. Washington had twenty three had twenty nine in the game. They tried to blow two weeks ago against davidson. See if he can keep it. Going tomorrow as dayton visits the see you also tomorrow. Miami's at eastern michigan rocks off good performance against bowling green taryn. Your bowling green falcons gave up ninety six to miami more impressively justin. Turner made just four buckets. He went twelve of toll from the free throw line but he could not convert from the field. Grant had twenty seven for the hawks. Who suddenly i would stop short of saying. They're a factor in the macaroni cheese. Because i mean figuring out these races dumb because of the inequities with the amount of games the team play but right now they're four back in the win column from toledo but are they play an eastern michigan team. That has won. Just one game in the mac. This game will be played tomorrow at Five thirty tomorrow on. Espn fifteen thirty. It's a kentucky against lsu. Lsu was on the the losing end of one of the best shooting performances by college. Basketball team. High have seen in a really long time. Alabama rained threes scored sixty in the first half made twenty three for the game. It was ridiculous. John petty when eight of ten from behind the arc. That's an alabama team. That's really fun to watch. They don't reinvent the wheel offensively. Just got guys who could heave it from deep and they did against. Lsu kentucky can't do that against lsu. I talked about this in the three o'clock hour john. Calipari is taken a lot of criticism. He's got a modernizes offense. No he just has to go get a point guard. Ideally more than one right now he has none. Here's what you want from point guards a point guard. Who can do at least one of these things beat somebody off the bounds kentucky has nobody who can do that. Make entry passes in kentucky. Has nobody who can do that. Run up a pick and roll and hit. A guy was diving to the basket. They are awful at that. Make an outside shot. That's not happening. Get the free throw line. No place terrible. Go and get a john wall brandon knight and andrew harrison deer fox marcus teague emmanuel quickly. Tyler ulis heck atari games are a derrick rose. I know i'm talking about some guys who are really really good some better than others. When john calipari has a point guard his offenses modern when he doesn't have a point guard. Guess what it looks like. It's nineteen fifty nine. It looks like they're running the teen wolf offense. And i know that movie was made in nineteen thousand five but you get the point six. Pm tomorrow you will hear it. Live on seven hundred. W no not on seven hundred. W w moron on. Espn fifteen thirty. And i write that down. There's no uc game. They're not plane. Houston tomorrow xavier. Wasn't gonna play this weekend anyway. The indiana hoosiers will be on the court after a very impressive second-half performance against iowa. Last night i it will be taking on a rutgers team. Remember about three weeks ago. All the people on the east coast. We're telling us how good rutgers was. Now i do now. They're not any good biggest win. I think of a archie archie miller. I almost called him archie. Bunker you can tell close to the weekend biggest win of i. Think urge miller's run in bloomington. They go on the road they trail by six. It's an iowa team. That is awesome. Offensively and i you which has not been a good team guarding. The three was really good at it last night. They got balanced scoring. trace jackson. Davis was really really good and it kind of felt like the season was slipping away. And maybe it's still does but they at least you're the ship back on course. I'm not even sure what that means. Nonetheless play at noon on sunday right before the afc and nfc championships tearing. What is our situation timewise here. Eleven away from six. How much time do we have. We break we have four minutes left. Hold on the show okay. back. I'm going to divide the time she'll get break and then come back and do it on a breaking. Get a break him. I'm going to tell you about the tell you why i did a one eighty on hanger who passed away today and quickly conference championship. Gambling picks next espn fifteen. He's pitched in one game balance of power shifted in the national league central eight from six. My name's allegra. Nfl conference championship games. This weekend can be heard. Live on seven hundred. Wwl w first game is going to be a green bay and tampa bay I'm taking the packers. Don't read too much into that regular season result. Look they got housed. Green bay did by tampa bay. Their defensive performance was fantastic to pigs. Four sacks thirteen quarterback hits six passes defensed six tackles for loss of forced fumble pick six. It was also another pick six. That should have been pick six. But it wasn't aaron. Rodgers doesn't throw pick sixes. He now has three his entire career. One of them came in the first game against tampa bay. My money is on that not happening. They lead that game early and they played poorly. It's the only game which green bay really played poorly. I am going to assume they don't play poorly. We're asking a forty three year old man to play in the cold i know. He's played his entire career in foxborough a lot of cold weather games. I'm not betting against the mvp. I aaron rodgers is going to be the mvp. I've got lay three. I'll lay frey to me. I'm going to tease this along with the bills. Because i can get the bucks at nine in the bills at nine and a half and i think both games kind of fall net six seven range. I'm going to do that. But i like green bay. I'm taking the bills. I'm taking the bills in the nightcap. Patrick mahomes and the chiefs have not been good at covering this year. josh allen. The bills have at patrick. Mahomes has cleared. he's gonna play. They plan a lot of close games. They've been playing with fire every every week. They've had games come down to the last possession. Last eight wins have come. By less than a touchdown they pulled out. A bunch of wins late against a team. Like that josh allens great covering twenty seven twelve against the spread as an underdog fourteen six and two as visitor thirteen five and two as a row dog eight two and to what else do i have to give you. You take the points. I'm gonna take the points. I'm gonna take the bills. There's a little abbreviated version of the weekend for you. Hank aaron passed away. We started the show by talking about him. And there's honestly don't have time today to to roll through some of my thoughts. But i will make a little bit of an admission for you. Hear a illustrates. Something that i. I like it when people change their mind because it tells me open minded. It tells me they're flexible. Somebody who never changes their mind. You don't wanna be with that person. You don't wanna work for that person you don't want to hang out with that person you don't want that person working for you for years when we will talk about. Pd's and baseball and we're talking about how it didn't bother me the guys roy. Did we talk about how it just guys did. Whatever they had to do and to a large degree. I still feel that way. But i've always found silly. Those who have said. Well hank aaron still the all time home run leader. It's like to know he's not but i don't know if it was six or seven years ago. I'm not even sure what it was. That i was watching specifically but i was. I was listening to folks. Talk about hank. Aaron endured while he was chasing babe. Ruth's all time home run record which he tied here in. Cincinnati opening day seventy four and broke four days later. And this is well documented and there's no shortage of stories out there about this. The atlanta journal constitution tweeted out today. The obituary they had prepared in one thousand nine hundred ninety four because they feared he was going to be assassinated the letters and correspondence. He got hit a take his kids out of school. This was a guy who lived under the what felt like the very real threat of violence against him by abject racists who didn't want him to break babe ruth's home run record and he broke it. Barry bonds did not have to go through any of that and if he cleanly broke the record and slid hank aaron down to second place honestly. I don't think anybody would have ever had an issue with that. Barry bonds prickly person not as beloved all that sort of stuff but for years. It never bothered me that he cheated to break the record until i really started to think. About what hank. Aaron win through. He deserve to have that record. And yes records are meant to be broken and had it been broken cleanly. That's one thing but when the record is taken away from somebody who did things above and beyond to take it and it's taken from someone who went through literal abuse and terror. In order to break it had to live through that had to endure it both during an after thought about that. Hank deserve to have that record. Just like i deserve to hear this song but no in all seriousness towns. Trying to play me out with knicks music. I've i've done a one eighty on that. And i now view hank aaron is the all time home run leader because he deserves to have that crown he deserves to have that title not just because eat. A bunch of home runs not just because he was immensely great offensive player and immensely great player. But but what he went through. There's a level of entitlement. I think you get when you have to endure hell to achieve something and when it's broken by somebody who cut corners who cheated. Who did things that weren't above board. I now have an issue with that back in two thousand seven next. Play the kings tonight. Taryn going to be watching. I will be good night. Have a great weekend back at monday through five. This is espn fifteen thousand. Cincinnati sports station core bookshop with hubert hopper everyone for the championship race in the going crazy.

hank aaron john calipari baseball cincinnati basketball pat brennan hank bengals Aaron calvin harris Espn Cincinnati milwaukee atlanta journal new york knicks atlanta barry bonds reds milwaukee braves
Bill Cunningham with Dan Hils and Berl Love 6/2/20

Bill Cunningham

31:32 min | 11 months ago

Bill Cunningham with Dan Hils and Berl Love 6/2/20

"The following program were prerecorded. Cunningham the great American report by Tommy, vendor. The governor will be speaking about two apart today was that develops that until then some of the headlines Pop shot in the head and Las Vegas. He's on life. Support the reporting this morning on CBS morning news was not gonNa make. Four officers wounded and Saint Louis persistent hit the national ours, but we had a cop in Cincinnati that was shot in the head, fortunately survived because of his Kevlar helmet driver mows down officer in the Bronx another different officer nypd beaten as onlookers film. The entire event put it on social media, so some other headlines around the country DC is a war zone fortress. White House trump calls governors week, fools and jerks, military deployed violence destruction escalates everywhere. Then we have reporting out of Cincinnati yesterday now. The enquirer reporter was briefly detained by police while covering protests in the city Monday evening Patrick Brennan. Who I I may have met him but I. Don't think I know. was with other journalists simply doing his job after curfew on mckinney avenue when he was detained by Cincinnati. Police journalists are considered. Essential workers are exempt from the curfew Evan covering the protests for several days Brennan. The enquirer reporter was briefly detained after the arrest started Monday night, and of course. Everyone's apologized including the mayor, and maybe at some point today or tomorrow the mayor will take a knee along with sergeant. Dan Hills COPD. Are we getting all the facts? Brennan who covers FC Cincinnati has been helping with protests coverage because of all the work being done, and it was released about eight fifty five PM Society Mayor John Cranley said the incident was a big mistake. The buck stops with me and I. sincerely apologize in this comes on the heel of a Omar. Who is the CNN reporter that was arrested simply literally for doing his job, which gave me in my mind the idea that. Patrick Brennan the Inquirer was simply doing his job, and since police targeted him for an arrest. Let's get a maybe a different perspective from the head of the Union which is of course Sergeant Dan. Hills and Sergeant Hills welcome to the bill, Cunningham show and. First of all sergeant. Is a report from the enquirer. Factually accurate. Not at all willy matter, of fact, I think this was frankly at set up and I can't tell you how disappointed I am and mayor Cranley. He he folded like a cheap lawn chair. The first time there was any criticism of our officers. I've talked to a couple of different people that right there and I can tell you the whole story one. I WANNA. Do from your list of. Of things that you came on these talked about taking a knee, he said Cranleigh and me I hope I hope that was a slip of tongue, because I will not be taking a knee, and we can talk about that in a second if you like, but first and foremost. Here's what happened. We had some officers deployed down around making street area. There shots fired. They just recovered gone. A. Break in around the corner. There was some other officers trying to take a break and Brennan. You say his name is yeah. It'd been advised a couple of times. There was one person that was aware that he was some sort of media, but did not know 'cause Brennan was dressed like everybody else. No big shirt that said media or inquire hit on a a tiny, maybe like four by far index card on Lanier's around his neck. But you've been warned several times to to go around. As there was a Swat armored vehicle, and these officers taking a break this, it was not an area. In which we wanted anybody that travel now the media is of course free and encouraged to look and see what's happening reported accurately which they don't always do, but that doesn't mean that they are not with restrict without any restrictions. we can tell by watching us with a camera and the approach Mr Brennan. It seems very obvious that this guy was one for instance and many others I talked to this guy was trying to set up and see the Oth- reaction well, he got the reaction. He wanted I. Guess as the other author's approach had no idea whatsoever that he was media. Also told him to stop, and he refused to stop at which time he was taken down and he was He was handcuffed and I'm here to tell you right now. Those officers those officers were a hundred percent in the right. Those officers are what has saved. City from the from the type of violence that type of turmoil, the type of destruction that has happened happening our parts of the country, because of their extreme dedication, I talked to author that have been in tears because they've worked twelve sixteen and eighteen hours, and then sent home and told that they have to be back and four or five hours again. It is unreal. The amount of commitment and dedication nuisance police say and then John Cranley who's gone around and Brag and Brag and Brag about the best police department and the country which we are and praised God. Of Like I said he folded like a cheap launcy. As soon as there was any type of criticism, whatever and this is totally unwarranted criticism. This isn't even a mistake that was made a mistake was made by this media reporter or something he did intentionally, and then the have the guy that says he's the head of our city, and seeing us through these these riots. The people who are out there where the rubber meets the road and right now Willie. I happen to be parked. And District One, and I'm facing towards the police memorial, and here's a fact you WanNa know a fact is that there is a chance and it's significant. Chance that through this riding through this disturbance better name might get added to this memorial that I'm looking at across the street. And how does that sit with each and every one of us as we are are going out here and serving multiple hours a day. How does that Shit with the families who are sending their loved ones out? The serve here each and every day and because some. Reporter wants to once the challenge. What little bit of direction he was given, and and then and then come out with accusations got about the police. Are Politicians want to jump in on his side? You know if it wasn't for the police providing security to the society. That's free society. Where would mayor Cranley be? Where would all these other politicians be? I imagine they would probably bunkered in their basements for. They would probably leave Gal some cabin or Resort Retreats Far Away from the inner city, and where this is happening, and where they sent the men and women down here to do job and I'm here right now. The tell you. This apology needs to be rescinded, and the new apology needs to be put four to the men and women that were down there, and we're done and done at disturbance by this report margin hills tell tell the American people what exactly did Patrick Brennan of the Inquirer do according to the enquirer. There were five to seven cops grabbing Patrick, trying to slam his face into the street, followed by the police department, tweeting a statement that it sounded like the world's biggest shrug, we apologize for an inconvenience. What was an allegedly? His? His pass was small, but visible, and that he had goggles on and that he was according to the. Five to seven cops grabbed Patrick. Try and and try to slam is facing the street. What exactly did Brennan Do? Like. I said he was AF several times. told several times to walk around an area where we had some. Going on, we had like I said an armored car there and he was warned multiple times. Just because you're pressed, doesn't mean you get to go anywhere, said a policeman for thirty three years and ninety nine point nine percent of the time the media on the street level. Or instructions, you can't come any closer. The press briefing will be at this going or whatever this guy joker decides that that's A. He's above that because he's with the media and he disobeys the orders the Lov. Orders of policemen nobody was just coming up company because he was out, observing a were told him not though, and then he purchased some other cops as he got around to one that was warning and SORTA, heading for these cops. COPS in an aggressive manner, yelling and ahead his hand over his head about something he wanted to do I guess and they they had they had to stop him. They didn't know who he was. A second group of officers had no idea who he was and felt as though he was a threat. You know we have a right to protect ourselves. We have a right to protect our own, and now more than ever. You said Saint Louis. Cincinnati I think there was another thing where police officers ran over in Atlanta New York. List goes on, and on and on I've seen I've seen cops battered I've seen him bleeding all over to social media from every town across this great country Willie the people who are defending this nation right now and I love our servicemen I did a couple of years. But not right now is not the the the army or the navy or air. Force Marine, the number one line of defense for this country, people who are standing up to defend her today as Lee Greenwood sank the people who are standing up to defend her today are the men and women of Law Enforcement Dan. He was doing it not not when you say Patrick Brennan aggressively one toward the Cincinnati police. I would assume that's on their on their. Their video cam correct on video. I've watched the video soon as I saw that he even before I talked to the answers I was aghast at how this this guy was a seven. He realized what's going on, doesn't he? Realize what is in the the the the the minds of these police officers that all wish just to go home and do not wish to be on the memorial. That I'm looking at right now. That that that was so foolish. Idiotic and the only thing that was more idiotic was the mayor, and he's other politicians. Come out and condemn without apparently taken a very good look what occurred. And and putting it into the context and the situation. This wasn't this wasn't an F.. O. P. Picnic this was this was a essentially. A war zone and media has to follow some directives in some direction in situations like this, and this guy was above it will. He was above it. I think he wanted this. That's what I think. I think he's doing nothing, but you know what stirring and you know the as much as that disappoint disappoints me. I've seen the media more on the national level of our reporters are here are fine people. I've seen on a national level. The media push this. Wait for that waited for this moment when. You know something that I see is defenseless? What happened in Minnesota cannot defend it. It was bad, no other place leaders, but they use this one incident when you have several hundred thousand police and ninety nine point, seven percent of them are very good people that go out here and do the job very well each and every day, and they have millions of context. You're millions and millions of contacts a year say make millions of arrest. Arrest of the year and they find the one or two or three things that happen every year, and it's being they usually probably the worst I've ever seen as far as the using it for a camera. And they used it along with Antifa, and the far left, and this is a war on America and right now. The frontline soldiers I am so proud of especially here in Cincinnati. Are the men and women of the Police Department? They are they are doing an outstanding tremendous job. Willie and and and weak kneed politicians I i. don't know Brittany politicians. Be Damn right now. The people that got to stand up for this country are are the police officers and its citizens that know the truth. The the media The media tells stories and send things and everything sometimes I. Think they'd like to create a lot of this chaos, so they can report on it, but there. There's no place else in in in the country nowhere. Like like here in the USA where our policemen are respectful of other people's right, they are care, careful and considerate of of the citizens, and yes, we're in perfect. There's there's no perfection and doctors nurses, lawyers, these and definitely not politicians only talk show host. Talk shows do a great job talking. Only talk show host. And that SORTA. Let me ask this question Pat. Patrick Brennan the inquirer was arrested. What was he arrested for? And charge has been dropped. The charges have been dropped I. Don't know what they originally their plans were the charging. It could've been a disorderly conduct maybe before they realized he was media. That might have been for the curfew I i. don't know what charges they going to go with. They ended up going with none. I'm you know I'm reasonably okay with that I. You know I think they're probably something that he was guilty of and all of his refusal of orders probe. Probably at least obstruction of official business or something of that nature. His face in the street to that that five or seven cops grabbed Patrick Running He. He went down, but there weren't people slamming. It's facing the. Just just I want to view. I went to listeners to view the video themselves. It was it was a quick and effective arete again. We don't know what we're facing. When we face this guy coming around a corner yelling out us in this environment again, you have to put things in the context. That's one of the things media loves to do. They love to take things out of context, and it makes it sound like you know if we were all sitting around sipping on Coghlan's at F. O. P. Picking, this guy came up and start yelling. That would be a different story. We are basically in a war done. Because it's America, you don't know. We're at war or shall we say they're at war with us? Whatever this is far left. ANTESA season. The these antagonistic the the radicals revolutionaries, they're anarchists, Willie, they are anarchists, and we were facing them, and they have nothing but middle fingers for us ninety percent of the time, and we have nothing but professionalism for them ninety nine point nine nine percent of the time, and so this this media. Guy He. He he chose very unwisely, and now he wants to make big deal out of it after charges are dropped and now our our our mayor wants to criticize the cops. You'd better you'd better look at your. You'd better look at the time you better. Look at the Times, that are going on right now and and you and you should. You should reconsider before you go jumping on a police for for for doing nothing. Nothing but protecting themselves. We gotta run. Sergeant Dan Hills I that you'd have to say in the media I'm not sure I'm in the media I'm often a critic of the media, but I'll say this I'm going to review the videotape which is on our website, and then what you say is accurate I may issue a different ruling. So what would you tell to borough Lavin, the editor of the inquire about the conduct Patrick Brennan. Telling that maybe he needs a some sort of IQ tests before he hires a reporter, because if he this guy thought it was a reasonable thing to do, sit disobey those directives. That's one thing I'll tell him as when when when a policeman in a in a riot situation something that's GonNa be arrived. Situation in my mind sells you. Go that way, so go that way. That's pretty darn simple right I talked to. Him several times several times go around. Go over here There was a lot a whole lot going on so when you're told to do something, please just do it. It's not that hard. Please just do it. Please don't you know. Don't walk out our officers shouting with with with your right hand, raise like. We. We're a little on edge. Willy and we can be. We can be accused for being a little on edge right now. People are trying to kill. People are solely nuts. This is this is a very hard time and. The people who are stepping up the reason Cincinnati isn't burning like so many other cities is because our officers are are reacting precisely and effectively, and they are trained better than anybody else in the country and I am so damn proud of them, and I'm so damn embarrassed that the politicians you know, walk walk away like they did we. The men and women are Cincinnati Police Department we're not taking any. We're standing strong for this country. Sergeant Dan Hills give my best to the men and women in blue, and may God bless you and keep the cops safe and God bless America thank you. You've that's your? Willie on, let's continue with more your reaction. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand Bill Cunningham Newsradio seven hundred wwl of you. Billy Cunningham in about thirty minutes. Rob Sanders will be the Kent County Prosecutor about what's happening in Covington with the protest here and there I understand from media accounts. There have been some minor skirmishes and Covington. My hometown, but nonetheless You heard the comments of Sergeant Dan Hills taking, Tasca, the Inquirer and its editor borough, love and. Asking Weather Bureau love does an Iq test for their employees. Patrick Brennan was arrested. Briefly for the behavior that was described by Sergeant Dan Hills justifying the arrests John. And you and I now is borough. Love is editor for the Inquirer and borough love welcome. I think for the first time to the bill Cunningham show Berle. How are you? I'm doing well today. Billy, thanks for having me. Me Your perspective because as told, and I've seen the videotape which I saw during the break and. I, think the six or seven cops could've handled it a bit. But on the other hand, maybe Patrick Brennan didn't have to walk into him what his intent was so the employer of Patrick Brennan to the inquiry. What did you see and do you see any problems with your reporters behavior? First of all I want to say that I have nothing but respect for the work that the police are doing especially during these challenging times we work with them day in and day out. We communicate. We rely on them for information. And once it was determined that Pat Brennan was detained they very quickly. made that situation right and I was on the phone last night with dependent cheaper the. Probably? who had pat right next to them and said you know they apologize. We want to work to make sure that? You know situations like that. Don't happen which on both sides in the heat of the moment It's very hard to navigate. Those situations and make sense of what's going on, but I can tell you that prior to the video that everyone has seen Patrick was had been separated from his team and for their safety. We tell them they try to need to stay together. And so prior to when the video started it was determined already that he was a borough of the press. And they had told him to move from one side of the street to the other which he did and he waited. And once the Swat line and the protesters continued to go forward and were cleared out of that way His team. A couple of photographers in another recorder started to try to get police the pension to say hey. He's with us. Telecom over here with us, and Patrick was trying to get to them and walked into the street to join his team, and that's when the video basically starts, and you can hear him yelling for the attention of team members and say hey, you know this is going down here. Make sure you know that I've got a situation here. I think at that point and again I. I wasn't able to hear her. What Dan Hill said I had a colleague listened to to suggest that that Pat Brennan was Creating this situation to get attention is an outright lie. I'm disappointed that a officer would would suggest that He was concerned for his safety. He was trying to be compliant and it was a situation, and and he was shaken up afterwards I mean totally shake it up and so That's that's the situation that happened. I do think that. That six officers did not need to bring him down like that, but once that mistake had been made the the leaders of the police department. Fix it very quickly which I'm thankful for borough. Did your reporter do anything wrong? I'm looking at the video which is on our website and yours? He's pointing. He's in the group and then. It quickly. He's gathered and brought down. He's tripped I'm looking at it now and about six or seven officers are on top of them. Did you think when he walked into the officers in the beginning was did he do anything wrong there? You know we can second guess his actions He was trying to communicate his need to rejoin his team after he waited for. The protesters in that initial swat line to move through that area He was trying to get access to where other members of the press were, and he's trying to communicate that, so you know in hindsight. Waited another thirty seconds for a minute for the situation to calm down a little more but you know. It's it's a tense situation, and and he was trying to rejoin his team. So you know, I. I can't tell you you know in. Hindsight could have handled differently. I'm sure everyone in the situation that's making. How could we have handled that differently but what? What I do think was necessary was one you know they at that point? Most of them knew that he was a member of the inquirer team. I I. Don't think they needed to bring him down in that way at all I. think that You know that was that was definitely not how we want to be working with our police when we're both out there trying to do our jobs. This happened. A couple of times on the CNN was the most blatant example, but you think because the police officers new with the. that. They wanted to give it to my little harder. You think the cops wanted to take it out on media. I I don't WanNa say suggest that I don't know I do know that. I think there's a little bit of a disconnect the leadership of the city in the leadership of the police department. They understand that you know we're. We have a First Amendment Protection to do that job and it's. Especially, important in situations like this that we are able to record without the fear of being arrested and understanding that we do have to follow their their safety, orders and and if we want to challenge them, that's not the place to do it. We can do it. In a more reasonable way at fact I. Reporters on our team. Will openly defy a police officer like that I? What I think it is, it's it's a disconnected that some of the boots on the ground so to speak. are not as familiar with those first amendment protections, and again they're in a very stressful situation, and they're making decisions in the heat of the moment and I think that was a particularly bad decision. I. I don't think it was you know a a you know we're going to go after the inquire for the sake of going after the enquirer I, I don't think that's fair. Some lawyers Louis Sirkin. Some others are kind of trolling or asking for individuals who have been wrongfully arrested. It appears this is likely a wrongful arrest. Because he was detained, had to have been a charge, Sergeant Dan Hills. Was He arrested? The answer was yes, what were the charges? He did? No, he suggested they might have been disorderly conduct to failure failure to obey a police order those kinds of things. Assuming that there wasn't any injuries to Patrick Brennan I. Don't there's not a parent, but God knows what happened Do you give based upon this different orders to your employees to be more? Careful about coverage to when I read the comments of Chief of Police Isaac. He says it is is. His idea was in clearly visible, but I think on the video. I see something around his neck. That's probably the. Based upon this. Do you think the inquiries going to have more meetings with the on street reporters? Telling what is proper and what is not proper. When I look at the video and break it down. Just by frame. After he was talking, he went deeper into the little crowd of police officers, and that's when they reacted not knowing who he was chief I said we didn't know who he was. He wasn't he was dressed like. May I use the term? Protester had a backpack on and as a consequence. We wasn't sure who he was. He was arrested for something, but no one knows what he was arrested four so based upon this incident. Are you going to inform your reporters not to walk into a group of police officers? They already know that They and they know that they are supposed to follow the instructions at the police officers. I won't say that at Brennan was wearing A. Cincinnati Inquirer Polo shirt in addition his credentials, and like I said it had already been established established previously by offices around there that he was a member of practice because you told them that Are, people in the field heard at that. At that moment with the officer's presence that they didn't care, but he still wants to the side of the street that they told him and waited so I think at that point it was is fairly well known by the officers around the that he was a member of the inquire team, but yes, we actually while you were talking to hills. I was on a call with The public information officer SOM- Saunders for their department and a couple of the news directors and we talked about. The Need to make sure that we are. You know we have our credentials. It's it's clear that are members of the press, but it's difficult. You because everybody out there. Protesters observers. They all have cell phones. Trying to record and it's chaotic so you know I. I think that It's very wrong to say though that that he wasn't making every effort possible to let them know he was a member of crafts, and that once that was established. They They're the take down that they used after we kind of regroup. What wasn't deed a judgment error understandable. That's why we're talking through it. He was not. Technically arrested. He was not charged with anything. They detained him briefly and once it was determined. He was a member of the press they released him. And then I was on the phone with the lieutenant chief within probably five minutes so suffering the injuries to your knowledge other than dignity. He. He said he scraped his knee a little bit The also said that he was concerned that it looked like in the video that he was resisting going down He said he was trying to go down in control away, but there were so many offers around him that he didn't go down right away and I'm and I'm fairly certain that that's a technique that used so that you know. Know his head to think smashing into the pavement. They waited until they had control of him, and then brought him down but If you see the video and it's like well. Why did it take him so long to bring this guy down He was trying to go down. He wasn't resisting at all and and now I think he got a little bit of struck me was shaken up. But he's he's back out today. He's got a FC Cincinnati Story. He's doing and I told him. You know once your adrenaline subsides. You're GONNA have a great story to tell us too far. As, far as the enquirer is concerned, assists conclude the matter, and there will be no further action taken on this matter. I can't say that we're GONNA continue to talk with the police department and every the case we've. We've asked to see any available body camera. For, the might be available. And you know what I will say is is the goal here isn't to go to court with the goal. Here is just to make sure that we use. This is a learning opportunity for both for both organizations, and and try to avoid it from happening and understand. You know what better what happened so that we can coast organizations on how to avoid it expressly for those listening, there's different perspectives on everything I. Have a text here. That says he's. The guy was dressed like a bum backpack and won't listen to police in every right to take his ass down. How would you respond to that? Well I mean everybody has their opinion and I respect that opinion. I just don't think that's an accurate description of what happened. All right well, we'll see what occurs. At least give no plea but Berle as a consequence of this, has anything changed in reporting of the inquire of this of this event? No, not at all. We job you're doing. We're going to get. Borough love editor the inquire. Thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham show, thank you, thank you all right. Let's continue. Philosophy becomes available, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand pounds, seven, hundred, the new eighteen. And people have different opinions I think there's a general dislike of the media because the media is reporting, and how they report it, but on the other hand I urge you either on the in choir, our website to look at the take down and tell me if you think that's proper or improper. Is it overplayed or underplayed, and if you Patrick Brennan in that position, how would you feel today? Let's continue with more in about twenty minutes or so. We're GONNA. Put a call into rob. Sanders of the Kent County Prosecutor's Office. He considers Joe Deeter. deeter should be the Rob Sanders of Hamilton County, and then later on today, also judge Norbert Nadel about the old school approach of how things were handled. No one which is significantly different than it's being handled today because of the training of police, plus later on after two o'clock is the governor Mike Dewine to talk about the unrest? The rioting taking place in major American cities especially Cincinnati, Columbus and Cleveland, so let's continue with more fifty one minutes after the hour. Bill Cunningham the home of the reds hopefully in July newsradio seven hundred WWL W.

Patrick Brennan officer Police Department Cincinnati Reporter Willie Pat Brennan Inquirer Sergeant Dan Hills Brennan the Times reporter America John Cranley editor Billy Cunningham USA Cincinnati Police Department bill Cunningham
4/16/21 - The Mo Egger Show

Mo Egger

1:48:07 hr | 1 d ago

4/16/21 - The Mo Egger Show

"Are you ready for some football. We are this. Is dave lapham and you're listening to the home of the bengals. Espn fifteen thirty sure. Good afternoon on malaysia. This espn fifteen thirty. Thank you for listening. Hope your weekend is off to a great start. We're going to get our show off to a great start because west miller is going to be here in just a second. The new head. Men's basketball coach at the university of cincinnati reds are home this weekend. I'll give you something in thirty minutes. That they should have been better prepared. Four-plus over under coming out for the upcoming nfl. Season the bengals or at six and a half your thoughts on that plus in the four o'clock hour pat brennan cincinnati dot com previews the cincinnati season. Which starts tomorrow against nashville live on. Espn fifteen thirty but news of the day at the university of cincinnati. About four hours ago. West miller officially introduced as the new men's basketball coach and he's with us this afternoon on. I'm sure what has been a very very busy day at the end of what. I'm sure has been a very busy last couple of days coach. I appreciate the time. Congratulations and welcome to cincinnati. Can you even begin to describe what the last forty eight to seventy two hours have been like it's felt like just one big day keeps going. It's it's been a whirlwind but it's been the citing This is the type of place that i've always dreamed about being and so when this happened. It's exhilarating but then there's a realization. How much work we have to do right away. And so. I'm i'm so excited the adrenaline pumping so i'm not tired at all. But there's a lot of work to be on this thing's been moving really fast. And i think it's gonna continue to be that way for a while so it's been an interesting experience but a great. Take me through. Take us through the process. When when the job i shows up on your radar when it first feels like you know what i've got a shot at that particular job. What was what was the process like that ultimately led you see well last friday. I knew the job was open It was the i be really honest. I wanted to hear from john cunningham. I wanted to hear from cincinnati. I was hoping had my phone with me all day. And when the texts came through told john this couple of days later and we were talking in person. I wanted to be the fastest person to respond to his text message. Showing it came through. I felt like i was texting. It was coming through And so you know started with that and we. We talked on saturday over the phone. Got to know each other a little bit Than we zoomed on sunday and gotten too much more debt and then we were able to to meet in person. I believe tuesday. I i believe tuesday And then see some of the facilities here on campus. And you know. It's the longer process went. The more felt like this could be real. This happened in the more. I thought like it was the right fit for me from from the time that the job landed on your radar or the job opening landed on your radar to right. Now what have you learned about the job. What have you learned about the program the school in the time since then it's great. Great quests allow always. I've always known how special this basketball program was. I grew up watching this program and coach huggins years in that era. You know. i've watched this program really closely during cronin's years been into coaching. You know mired it and tried to learn from it from a distance So i've always had the awareness of what this program was about the respect for what it is. And i've always known it's one of the greatest programs in history of basketball. I pride myself on being a basketball junkie and understanding not just basketball during my lifetime but how we got to this point going back to the sixties in the history and tradition. I've always been really aware of that. You know as we got into the process what really come really came to find out. Was that the things that i value really align with the things that everyone values around here in this institution in this community with the leadership here and and that's what i've been learning about and that's what's giving me more conviction every moment that this is a great fit for me elaborate on that if you will i heard you say that at the press conference today that your values aligned with those of university what what does what does that mean. How you elaborate on that what. I think standard of excellence right there. There's a certain standard that people expect from cincinnati basketball The and i learned a lot about how this institution has grown over the last forty years. I mean this is an excellent. In addition there's a lot of pride here People really care here this place again. I'm learning though. So i'm not going to get out but i i get a sense that this is about people that have crit toughness and on their shoulder whether that's the basketball program or just kinda the general feel that i get about being in cincinnati and i get i the thing i've just been blown away with in a really short period of time of being on the ground. Is the pride people feel to be from here into being this community. you know. Those are things that i value. I think i keep saying that people people can get across my southern accent. I think people the same values that same mindset in that same type of driving work ethic so i think those were some of the values a lot. Do you see and you had an extraordinarily long run at unc greensboro. Ns successful run. Do you see parallels between the situation that you walked into when you became a first time head coach there versus what you're walking into here. I hope not. I mean i was twenty eight. We screwed it up everywhere he could possibly screw it up. You know the first three or four years we were there and you know i think life works itself out. I was really fortunate to get the opportunity with with no experience. We screwed it up every way. I mentioned leadership. They're just kinda lead and what we were trying to do and gave me a chance to work through it and so that that was a blessing that i was somewhere that that could happen and that didn't happen very much in college athletics I hope it doesn't take that long if it does nobody. You'll be more disappointed than me. So i don't believe there is going to be a parallel there where i do hope. There's a parallel is we built something. Sustainable we built something that you could expect year after year as we got it going there and the players would change but the the mentality the approach the way that we played the game standard that we expect on a day to day that became a cultural thing The results became something that our players work for. And i do hope there's some parallels in that in that area Over over three decades. I think whether it was during coach huggins regime certainly over thirteen years with mick cronin i think most people here and frankly i think most people around the country probably giving yourself you had in your mind's eye vision of what a cincinnati basketball team looked like. This is a program that has long had an identity. What does the identity of a west miller coach team look like. We're going to be tough. We're going to be physical. We're gonna all buy into the defensive end of the four. I to what we do on the backboards i to the things that when you extra possessions putting your body on the ball loose balls collections. Like the things that we all know impact winning on a possession possession basis. I really believe that. So many college basketball games come down to one or two or three possessions. There's a certain approach mentality to win those two or three possessions. And that's what separates great beans from. Just okay thanks. So we're gonna we're gonna invest in those areas. I and find people that are willing to invest in those areas. think offensively. You know we're gonna play a style of basketball. That i think young people wanna play. We're gonna play with some pace We're we're going to give them freedom to go grow and they play play through some mistakes So i think there's a little give and take there but we are going to play an exciting brand of basketball fun brand of basketball. But we're going to be pretty nasty. How we defend in some of the things we do physically defensively and On the back porch. You mentioned today that you you plan on this being a quo players i program. What does that look like. I think it means that the decisions we make and the way that we operate every day has to take into account. What's best for the person. And what's best for the young people in that locker room. That doesn't mean let them do whatever they want or making them. Happy every second it means caring for them being invested in their growth and making them feel like they matter and so everything we do will be about those guys and former guys guys we can have the kind of success we want to have on a basketball court if the people out there aren't succeeding and they don't believe that you genuinely care about him so we're going to try to release invest in the people. I can't imagine what what your to do. List looks like over the coming days but very very high is going to be recruiting and that that involves players that you might have to ask to come back to the program that involves players in the transfer portal. Who are looking for new places that involves obviously kids coming out of out of high school. Walk me through what's had walked me through what the appeal is going to be an already has been to players who were here. This past season that are thinking about coming back are open to coming back. Walk me through. What the transfer portal landscape is gonna look like. I'm sure you were already preparing for in your previous position. And how do you hit the ground running in terms of recruiting kids who are still looking to start their college basketball careers this fall and maybe have the university of cincinnati be part of their thought process short. No i think it starts with the current guys here The guys have been at cincinnati that that came here for the same reason that i came here felt something. Believe something I tried to meet with all of them yesterday. The ones that were here at drove up a net with saunders and his family last night indianapolis trying to get the each one of those guys and tilton that we want to start with the foundation. What's already here And then be really honest about who we are trying to do. And make sure we get that nucleus together And it's about like you said getting out in recruiting so we can put together a competitive roster now within all is. I think it's important that i assemble established quickly Because i certainly can't do all this just by myself so while we're going through that process. I think i'm also trying to put together a staff. Those are the main priority. Is the current players. Then obviously the recruiting piece around put together a great roster and then within that you know trying to get a staff so we can start putting our team together to execute those things There have been. I'm i know you're aware of this We always talk here about the bearcat family and the opinions of former players are often. They're not. They're not shy about expressing how they feel about whatever direction the program was going in. And i've said over the last couple of days. Look we're getting somebody who's a tarheel. And when i think of north carolina basketball i think maybe the biggest extended family in all of college sports. If there's anybody who understands the importance of connecting past to present it's going to be somebody who comes from that family one of your first things one of your first things you did. Was you had a chance to connect with a bunch of former players via zoom I know you're probably. There's probably a lot of that. You don't wanna make public. But can you give us an idea of how you feel that. When and what your impressions from from that. Conversations were the reasons moses. I'm so excited about being in this job because people care so much and the people that care the most because they've been best most of the people that wore the jersey and so when guys that wore the jersey over generations care that much about a program you know which really special from my background. I totally understand that amick. I'm not saying. I understand it here yet but i understand the idea of that and it's really powerful. It's also not simple right as you just mentioned former cincinnati players for the most part. Don't know me yet. They shouldn't just with open arms. Welcome if they care that much. I should have to earn their respect and earn their trust. And i think we'll do that by. We approach things how we let them know how much they matter to our program moving forward we want them included and then i think what i know is they want a certain level of basketball to be played. They want a certain standard of basketball. Because that's what they did when they were eager. And i look forward to get into program to a level that they're really proud of it every time. Run out of that tom. What is the greatest lesson. You've learned that you've applied to your coaching career. From roy williams. It's such a hard question. I've been asked multiple times. It's it's just such a loaded question because there's not one great answer You know he. He sat and i sat in. His office is being recruited there. And the reason i went there was because he asked me what i wanted to do when i was done playing basketball and said i wanna coach and he said you have coming because i will help you that. There's no better place for you to be to help you get into coaching that. He and he's followed through with that twenty foot as the greatest decision i ever made because how much he's helped me grow when mentor me as a coach and it hasn't just stopped when i got a head coaching job. It's gotten stronger and stronger over the years. She's the real deal and it's inspired me to wanna have the same types of relationships in that same type of follow through with the guys that i but the most important thing that i think i can take from this. I'd like to goblins competitive as anybody in the world. And i think williams fits into that category as well but he that competitive he competes the highest possible level but he also has like the moral fiber to not cross a line or two still treat people the right way and i think that's rare in the highest levels of college athletics and it's inspired me to try to live up to that in my coaching career. Another minute because you're being pulled a thousand different directions and you've already been very generous with your time. How you were asked about xavier rivalry today you understand. Rivalries the significance of them. What they mean to people what they mean to fans what they mean to players. How how important is it you. You were asked about xavier game. I'm sure instantly you were asked about it today. How important is it for a head coach to embrace the significance of a rivalry like duke north carolina or here for my money. The best rivalry in college basketball. Cincinnati versus xavier. I mean i love it. I mean we live for this. Right is competitors Coaches you dream about coaching and those types of games you know like you said in another rivalry that That has another intense rivalry. I played in. You dreamed about playing in that game. Those are some of the greatest competitive moment ever had hit the play. I've drained about coaching. And this game. And so i think you know when you wake up in the morning and wanna hit snooze you thinking about beaten xavier right and i can. I can feel just being on the ground here. There were a couple of days and i. i don't. I don't want to get off on the wrong but i think what makes the greatest rivalries great is the success of both programs. Right that that there's no great robbery. One program stinks. It's the accessible. And you got to programs that have had great success in this kind of proximity So i have tremendous respect for that. And i respect for travis. But then we're gonna to beat them. There's no doubt about it every day. Your plate is full as as things. Settle down what are you. What are you looking forward to getting to know about Just living in cincinnati area. Well i think for for the first couple of months because as you mentioned. There's so much to do. I think it's just gonna be trying to get this roster together get a team together on my staff and and and get up and running so we can put a team together to compete the way that everybody expects us to compete on the for next year. But whenever i feel that at least i have a chance to breathe. I wanna find a great place to live. I want to find the best restaurants in talmudic and at some point. I'll get out and play some good dog person. There's some good golf in syria. But i do think it's gonna take a little time because we're not gonna come up for air for awhile. It's funny on our show. We've talked about roy. Williams coming to watch you play. And we've been guessing which golf courses join. So that's going to be a part of the deal when he comes here you also of course i would be not doing my civic responsibility if i didn't tell you to get to skyline chili as soon as possible and i know i'm not the first person or the last to tell you that i'm trying to think if what if i've heard more beat out which i'll let you run really appreciate the time i know that the first day or so it could be a whirlwind so thanks for setting some time for us. Congratulations welcome. a-. Cincinnati were excited. That you're here and looking forward to bothering you often over the coming years. Thanks so much fired up. Thank you got a lot of bearcat fans are west. Miller introduced today as the new head basketball coach at the university of cincinnati. Twenty two minutes after three o'clock lots of thoughts on west. Lots of thoughts on what. He just had to say to us wary of falling for a coach during his press conference. It's happened before where man i thought based on the press conference. This dude is changing the conversation. Luke fickle did that and the results have certainly spoken for themselves. How i did it with john brennan and the results. Frankly were mixed in that. Tenure ended very very quickly. I did it with. Tommy tucker fail and that tenure was mostly a disaster. But i'll i have to go on. Is my conversation with them. And watching today and i can certainly understand why from a purely emotional standpoint folks are are ready by the way mike saunders one of the players who hit the portal within about two minutes of west miller's press conference beginning announced that he was gonna come back to uc. What that means for the other guys. I don't know. I know that west went to indianapolis last night and had a chance to talk with mike and his family and so he has decided to come back and obviously that's one of many spots for next year that he's going to have to fill but he talked to his press conference about being fired up and and look at xavier fan. Maybe rolling your eyes at uc head coach. Talking about beating xavier. When quite frankly the musketeers have had the better of the bearcats for a long time now at the same time. It's funny here coach. Talk about embracing a rivalry. And frankly john brennan did that and he never really got a chance to embrace it. He ever beat xavier mic for all of his success and for all of the attributes. I think if you were to ask most cat fans among the things you wish he would do differently. I guess it would start by beating. Zena podcast yesterday. We chatted with the voice of the unc. Greensboro spartans scott lansky bonski. He was really good. Really likes west. Meller you could hear that. That's available on the podcast page as well as our conversations about the ucla. Basketball situation with chad. Brendel and justin williams. Both were as usual fantastic. Check those out on the podcast. Page of espn fifteen thirty dot com or on the iheartradio out. We are late. 'cause i went along with coach miller there an calling him coach. He's not my coach. We went along with west miller so this is going to be quick. In regards to the the former players heard him talk about a meeting that he had via zoom with a number of the guys minor standing. Kenyon martin was a part of that. Gary clark was a part of that. Damore johnson was part of that. Alex meacham was a part of that. October was a part of that. I believe when he stokes was a part of that. And you know that's gotta be an effort that continues. I'm sure that west miller is going to make a good faith effort to become a member of the quote unquote bearcat family. It is up to them to give him a chance. It's up to two people who were pissed off that. It wasn't eric martin. It's up to them to give west miller a chance. It's up to those people to do. What a lot of people didn't do for mick when he first got the job and let's give him a shot man. You and i both know that there are people for whom mic was. Never going to be accepted. There are people that were never going to embrace him. There were people that were never going to give him a shot to where people that were going either outwardly were root against him or maybe even behind the scenes work against him which is was drastically. Unfair i don't think anything's going to rise to the level of that level of toxicity that was there in two thousand six two thousand seven. But all you do all the guy deserves is a shot is a chance i said yesterday i was. I was disappointed for eric martin. Four eric i was not disappointed for. Uc was not disappointed for myself as a fan do deserve a shot. And i don't know what the alternative is like. I understand being skeptical to a degree. I understand expressing some of frustration. That the person you wanted to get the job didn't get it. I don't understand what there is about. West miller's background that would suggest he's not qualified for the gig or make you think that it was a bad higher but if you're worried about the relationship between the coach and the players i frankly i think it's it's on the players to give him a shot. My understanding is that back and forth with wes. now he's on a first name basis with me with miller and the former players was productive and good and there was a good back and forth and guys were honest but accepting and embracing and willing to help. And that's got to be part of this man. They've they've got a west. Miller has to involve the bearcat family if you will. They have to want to be involved and they have to want to be productive. They have to want to give him a shot and if they're not willing to then that can't be something that he or anybody else worries about. There's something hovering over this baseball season. That i i wish the reds would have been better prepared for it. Maybe it's not going to be a big deal. But i fear it will be especially after watching the first twelve games. We'll get to that next on. Espn fifteen thirty. Sports update is a service of kelsey. Chevrolet home of lifetime powertrain protection and guaranteed credit approval from their family to yours for life. Kelsey chef dot com reds. Are back at home tonight. I have three against the indians. At great american ballpark. Jeff hoffman and logan allen will be. You're starting pitchers. Logan allen is a lefty which starting lineup sort of stands out a little bit. Because jesse winker is leading off against the lefty castanos vodka suarez. Follow him then. Newstalk his zell. India stevenson behind the plate hoffman on the hill. Seven ten tonight on seven hundred. Wwl w sonny gray is set to make his 2021 debut tomorrow reds placing on the ten day injured list aristide is a keno with a left hand fracture. They have recalled from the alternate site. Max schreck who makes his reds debut. He plays aquino this morning. Had surgery to remove the hook of the hammett. I've never heard of that. The hook of the heyman. That sounds like the name of an album or something. He had surgery to remove the hook of the hamish and his left hand. Tearing can you look out for me. What does the hook of the hayman in his left hand. I mean it's a bone. I guess in his left hand What else what else wants miller introduced today as the head. Men's basketball coach at the university of cincinnati. Mikey saunders announcing on twitter that he's going to run it back and come back to uc for his sophomore season. One of the basketball note. Travis deal announced today that jonas hayes has been promoted to associate head coach after completing his third season as an assistant on the staff. Cincinnati set for the season opener. Tomorrow at nashville. That game starts at eight thirty and you can hear it live on. Espn fifteen thirty in the uc. Spring game set for tomorrow at nippert stadium as well. Reds are seven five off. And i haven't changed my mind about this team when they were six in one. I didn't jump to the point that i thought. Suddenly this was going to be a ninety five win team and now they're coming off a road trip. That was not good. They didn't score in their last game. And the game before that they blew a four. Nothing first-innings lead in a game that you know you got to win the game. In which tyler molly pitches well or you got to win the game. Which louise castio pitches. Well both would be great. One would be one one would be nice. You got to win both. There's there's a part of me there's more to like the not like offensively. There's lots of dudes who off to good starts and it's you don't wanna make rash conclusions about the season based on them and they're seven and five which that's here. Let's do it now. let's let's do it. Got the calculator on my phone. Seven point a five eighty three pace over once. That's a ninety four and a half win pace if the reds were ninety four and a half when games they will win the national league central. That's a good pace but the bullpen right. Now there's not a lot of what you would call reliable starting pitchers taryn and i were having this conversation before the show about starting pitching sunny gray is gonna come back. Louise casio's off to a slow start. Three starts not sure. It's worth panicking. But he started three times to those starts have been bad the back end of this rotation. You're still running. The likes of jeff hoffman. And there's something kind of precarious about that as well to remind just a quick reminder of what's gonna kind of looming over this entire season all across baseball the fact that this season everybody's gonna play one hundred sixty two games last year. Everybody played sixty except for the cardinals who played like fifty eight. Nobody made twenty starts nobody through one hundred fifty innings. Nobody through one hundred eighty innings. Nobody through two hundred innings this year. Starting pitchers for the most part going to be asked to make roughly thirty starts. Maybe more than that and throw something approaching one hundred and seventy one hundred eighty and i know we're in this era of pictures not going as deep into games but still more is going to be asked of starting pitching this year than last year. Which means that. If you compare this season to a normal one hundred and sixty two game year there's going to be more of a premium put on bullpen work because teams are going to have to monitor innings more closely based on the added workload from last year. You had louise. Casteel is going to fro a number of innings that is closer to the twenty nineteen workload than the two thousand twenty workload last season in a year in which he did. Not miss a start. i'm just using him. As an example he threw seventy innings over his first three seasons that the innings count grew one hundred and sixty nine in two thousand eighteen that increased by twenty two thousand nine thousand nine. It dropped because of covid. It dropped to one hundred and a dropped by one hundred and twenty innings last year. It is hard to imagine that a year. After throwing just seventy innings. He's going to get back to one ninety. And then there's nothing to do with his performance thus far it's hard to imagine anybody your average starting pitcher getting close to two hundred innings. Teams are gonna monitor these things more closely which means that managers teams are going to be more cautious of their arms and their starting pitchers and more. I think they're going to pay closer attention to work loads and be more willing to take guys out simply for the sake of saving their arms for later in the season and managing that increase load from two thousand twenty one compared to two thousand and twenty. Which means you better be set in the bullpen. So i flipped back to where we were with rice. selig lacey's an archie bradley. Two guys the reds. I know i've harped on this a lot to guys the reds. Let get away this off season and by the way archie. Bradley is gonna miss about a month. Because he's got an injured side muscle and so who knows if that's a thing if he's a red but it's worth making a part of the conversation. They let archie bradley and rice. Selig laziest go in anaheim. They're already talking about the best ways to use rice his statistics so far early this season. Great but they still allowed to historically good relief pitchers to get away and they're filling their spots for the most part with dudes who don't have a very high ceiling reclamation projects guys that you're trying to tap into to get something they haven't given other teams before guys you're giving to derrick johnson hoping he can somehow get those pitchers either back to a place that used to be or to a place. They've never been before. The thing is though in a year like this where the workload for every starting pitcher is going to increase by roughly twenty starts which means you're gonna have a quicker hook unusual because you want those pictures to make those twenty starts. This is a year where relief pitching is more important than maybe ever in a year like that you moved on from a couple of pretty. Good relievers yes. There was cost cutting considerations. I understand that and there are still some pretty capable. Relief pitchers back there. I still believe that a mirror. Garrett's got a shot at being an all-star. I like sean doolittle. I've seen some good things from carson. Fulmer seen some good things from sal romano but there's nobody that i think right now you would say is reliable you might still say amir garrett's reliable despite the numbers not being great by any stretch a lot of that skewed because he's pitched three innings in one. He gave up a grand slam but relief. Pitching has never been more important and yet this front office. It felt like from my baseball perspective. Had a pretty dismissive attitude about having as well put together a bullpen. As possible. Let some key guys go and just fill it with other dudes and there are years where i think that could work might work for this team this year but i really do believe there should have been a little bit more consideration. Paid to in terms of constructing your bullpen. Paid to the fact. Starting pitchers are probably going to have a hard time reaching their normal workloads. And that's anecdotal some. Have an easier time than others. You're to be more aware of innings counts and pitch counts this year. For your starters than ever means you're going to be more willing to go to the bullpen early and often that something. You're easier and better equipped to do when you've got a really good bullpen and the reds might prove to have a good bullpen. But they have a harder time having a good bullpen. When you let a couple of pretty good relievers giveaway twelve minutes away from four o'clock. Fc cincinnati on the pitch tomorrow. Our buddy pat brennan from the enquirer previews the season coming up at four twenty more on the ucla basketball situation coming up as well over unders for the upcoming nfl. Season are outs. And i feel really good about were. The bengals are from a a wagering standpoint and team standpoint that coming up at four o five on espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sport station. The injured list aristide is a keynote tear. By the way to look that up for me. Do we know what the lack left hook. The hemant is a hammett h. m. at we know what that is. Amit what is it. It's in his left hand. I've i didn't know you had a hook in your hand. What is that. what is the hook. You might the technical. The technical definite. Well now gimme your definition. I is the bone right below. Your right below your. Oh blow your thumb here right well. You're you're pointing. you're looking at your pinky. Did you confused. Thank you for them. Yes i broke my hand playing softball twelve years ago right here like i'm a little bit about two inches beneath my pinky that i also close and it was on my left hand. Is it possible. That aristide is a keno and i have suffered the same injury. How long were you out out from. What doing a talk show no days. No days were missed your plans. I played softball. So here's the thing. I'll never forget it because my dad passed away on may twentieth which was a tuesday and i was in a a sunday night softball and i played that sunday and i broke my hand so that would have been the twenty fifth and i had to go to the hospital. I think i went the next day. And i texted a buddy of mine. And he's like dude. You have had an awful week. So that was made the twenty fifth. I was playing softball because there was another injury to another guy like right before fourth of july. It's about a month. Now that was barely slow pitch softball This is major league baseball. We're talking about what the punt down pretty sure. You didn't play with much risk. There's a lot of risk of aquino compact purely well. Yeah six eight weeks. Six to eight weeks is what is that. What the what is the gimme. The clinical definition of the left hook of the he had surgery right. I didn't have surgery. I just a cast on it. Foams part of the guy canal also nowhere. That boat got stuck also known as the owner canal. Okay located along. The lower edge of the palm is bounded by the pits form another carpal bone and a number of muscles and ligaments. I'm just going to say that. Aristide is akina. My favorite player. And i have now had the same injury. We both suffered at playing a form of baseball may in a collision behind second base with nick broker because he had no used to produce this show just making a jerk out of himself trying to run down a pop up when i clearly had it and he clipped me. I landed awkwardly on my glove. Hand and i broke my hand. And i don't know specifically aquino i guess. He entered it on wednesday major artery nerve passes through the hand through. Here's it hurt. Like hell. And it was swollen. And i but i didn't have surgery but i was back playing within about a month month and a half. I played in a softball tournament that year round fourth of july. And i so. I didn't play with a cast on and i want to say the cast came off after three weeks and then it was like a soft cast at a hard red cast. That smelled like the worst thing i've ever smelled in my life. By the time was taken off buddha's leave it at you and kinoshita same interest. Yeah and now. I know what the hook of the hate is. Is it it. It is hemant. Hammett hook the hammett. That's what he's got. So i answered your question for you even though you didn't call it the right thing. It's not the deal anymore. It's the i got no longer works here. So what's that would correct guy but he no longer works here. So who guy who said referred to as the deal yeah. That guy doesn't work here anymore. Well then then. What are we have them here for. Greg shirts right yeah all right a couple minutes away. From four o'clock vega says the bengals over under the projected win total is six and a half hour. We free the results of a poll. Question that you may or may not have participated in related to that and we'll get to whether or not you should hit the over or under and if you're hitting the under perhaps you would explain. Why plus c. Cincinnati is starting season tomorrow in nashville or buddy pat brennan from cincinnati dot. Com is going to join us and we all want former bearcat players to help out west miller but but what if they don't i don't think is going to be a major concern but still what if they don't we'll get to the answer to that incredibly important question coming up at four forty on. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station. No one covers the bengals. Espn fifteen thirty cincinnati's sports station. All right it's off. I've ever four this. Espn fifteen thirty million small. Egger glad you're here Hug the weekends off to a great start by the way. If you missed west miller at the top of the show joined us out of the gun at three oh five will reenter for you at five forty. You'll have another chance kind of just like ease yourself into the weekend with the new coach of the bearcats. It's a busy sports. We can read indian. Sunny gray comes back. Which is is big. That's been the good news. The bad news is michael. Lorenzen says he's targeting june to come back and start but still a long time from now first things first. Jeff hoffman the reds. Trying to break a small game losing streak. I of three against the indians tonight number seven ten fridays all the weeknight games. Thus far have been six forty seven ten tonight four ten tomorrow and when ten on sunday afternoon. Fc cincinnati starts this weekend against nashville. You'll hear it live tomorrow night on. Espn fifteen thirty. Buddy pat brennan from cincinnati dot com previews the season his preview the season for the inquirer was pretty pretty comprehensive. So we'll dovetail from that at four twenty with pat and west miller. His era is off to a good good start. All i can do as judge by things that are happening in press conferences media sessions. But more importantly what's happening with guys that he wants to play you see and from that standpoint things are going pretty well at least early plus brennan and jones on baseball. We'll get to vegas over under for the bengals here in just a second. But i mike is calling from seattle. Mike you're on. Espn fifteen thirty. How are you know considering the on the Thinks like baseball west coast journey. And i feel so lucky. I wish you were with me. It's really been a serious. You have enjoyed it more. And i thought i would so You're going to be in in seattle tonight correct. Yeah we're playing the houston asks Do some negative. You know what. I mean the houston astros the astros the houston asterix. How about that. Yeah the cheaters cheated. My dog has got a best anyway. yeah so it's it's pretty. I was in seattle long time ago. I didn't have much recollection of it. But boy i'll tell you one green bed boy up here. It is green on green now. Have you had the t mobile park. I've not been have you. Will this be your first foray inside this park yes sir. Oh i'm jealous i'm jealous. It's on my list. I'm jealous want me to take some. Pics are concern them g. I just sent him to the station at espn dot. Com is my email address. Send me some photo. Oh i should know that. Because i've got some stored up from the trip because this'll be the sixth stadium. I thought it was in oakland for the tigers. Well we won't talk about. Their stadium has probably but they have the best uniforms in baseball. I think with you there. I got i got about sixty seconds here. What's on your mind. i forget but i well listen. Enjoy your weekend in seattle. I want a full review the ballpark because it is on my list. Okay and and the only reason i can there be curtain of you and super teams. Is that what. We're calling him now or the well. I call him other things. But i don't know what you call him by his back super to enjoy the weekend mike. Thank you take care right. chad randall. From bearcat journal dot com is calling in with. What's it says on. My screen is breaking news. What's up chat. nothing. I d- west miller is is currently in meetings with players that with mike adams. Woods my god. Dad was wanted to stay home. That's good news that with me. Manson no decision yet. But i'm told the visit went very very well and i think things look good for the potential return of mason. That as well all right. That looks good that. That's that's where we're at so far right now mike. No mike. saunders has Announced on twitter. That he's coming back he's running back running back. What might that mean for tari isam. My understanding is tari is a is back. Home outlast I initially thought seattle. But i think he might be where he is originally from los angeles West miller is is planning a trip to go see charis planning very good so they they will meet in person all right so so things are off to a good start. Correct those things when all classified to me is off to a good start. Okay the other thing. Go ahead i. I was very impressed with less miller today and my understanding is the players meeting with him have been very impressive as well. I was impressed with him today. I i've seen our buddy justin williams and he may have done this as well but he. He tweeted out details of the contract. The number that stood out to me was the the assistance pool. One point three million dollars. I don't know what it was before. I don't know what usually is. I don't know what it is around the country that strikes me is pretty high. That is apparently for all assistants. Not just for the bench assists for everybody for everybody. So you're director of ops your video coordinator recruiting coordinator on top of three assistance for john. Brennan i believe it was one point. One five million. So it's getting a hundred and fifty thousand dollars for west. Miller is a full position is being added to west miller's staff essentially what are you hearing about the meeting that he had via zoom former players I heard it was very good. I heard kenyon. Martin was was vocal not surprising vocal dude from my understanding He let west miller know that we didn't have a problem with you. We wanted our guy to get the job and my understanding. West miller had a great response which was look if they would have hired somebody from outside the family to be the head coach at at north carolina. All of us would have been pissed off last being a former captain and player in north carolina. So i think there was some middle ground reach their that. It was understands the importance of of former players to the program I wouldn't be shocked to see some kind of player involvement as he builds his staff going forward. I don't know exactly who. Or what or how that will play out but I i was told that the players from the couple that i've talked to were very impressed. He made a good impression. Obviously there's the kids who have decided to go from you see to the transfer portal. Gimme a reasonable timeline. Here when you could start to read about kids who are in the transfer portal looking to find somewhere to play that maybe list. Cincinnati as a possible destination. This guy seems like he is Relied less so. I don't think it will take long to start hearing that Cincinnati is involved involved with with players in the transfer portal. My guess would. Maybe the sunday monday depending on You know when. I think we'll see more of that when he gets maybe his first assistant in line I think i might have a decent idea who that will be. But i don't have. It confirmed yet. I can. I can give you a name if you'd like. Yeah sure yes. Mike roberts mike robertson former indiana. Who's your Been with indiana was with archie miller the past two years they just basically made him sat maters assistant. So he's the assistant to the general manager. Okay And he i you know what he did the eight years before that male. Unc greensboro was the associate head coach at unc greensboro. How'd you know who he went to high school with Less miller he he went to high school with less miller. so host. You guys know each other pretty pretty well. I would say if you're looking for the first member of i if there's odds on that if you can get odds on the first member of west miller staff. I would take odds on on mike robert. Have you had a chance to to chat with west yet. One on one. A little bit briefly What he knew who i was. Merely somebody put it put in a good word for me. that might have coached in the final four this year interesting well. That's really nice. Kelvin sampson do that. It was. I mean you know. Calvin and i are tight. I understand i understand of the media event which lasted about forty minutes. What was what was the biggest takeaway. You had understanding of cincinnati basketball. I think was the biggest thing for me. I mean that's that's that's what everybody's worried about right. You hire somebody from the outside. They don't have an understanding of cincinnati basketball His message was was actually very on point for me because he said what i thought which is my style of play is cincinnati bearcats basketball. And and you know reading up on him and watching some unc greensboro stuff. they're aggressive. They played tough physical defense. They press they get after you. They create turnovers. They really hit the offensive glass. Hard so he seemed to have a really good understanding of this program. Its history its importance and he seemed to buy into that completely. So for me that was the biggest takeaway That and he wants to kick xavier's behind. Yeah look. i think that's fun at either school when the coach embraces the rivalry. I think that's fun. And there have been coaches here. Who haven't done that and look chris. Mack did travis. Steel does John did win any of the games that he's not here anymore. I think it's i think if you're xavier fan it's funny here. The other guy talk about the significance of the rivalry. And if you're a bear cats fan. God knows it's cool to hear. The coach at uc talk about the significance in the importance of the rivalry. Just another game. But i had to fight to get that in. They were gonna cut the press conference off without anybody asking about xavier right and i. I had that quietly argue with with ryan kozulin from like forty feet away. 'cause he said one last question Joe danamon asked a great question but it wasn't about xavier and pointing across the room at qasr going. I'm asking one more question like whether you like it or not. I'm getting on the record. About xavier and ryan acquiesced and let me ask my questions that was nice so again the the transfer portal guys and returning players. There's there's a lot to be encouraged about in terms of those kids either staying at or returning to use yes. Things are off to a very positive start mail. And that's all you can ask for a. I can't go to the spring game tomorrow but were what would be the the the one thing would tell me to pay attention to. I think the biggest thing to pay attention to tomorrow having grader i agree we are one. Snap away from the evan era And he he's gonna have to grow up quick. This is the first time. We're gonna see really. Evan prater under under the lights if you will i think it is an important afternoon for avin prater. That is where my focus will be all right. Good stuff as always. Thank you for calling by the way. How was i as a podcast. You're asking a the question asked you. Were great you were you were you. Were fantastic you getting good feedback on me as the latest podcast on the bearcat journal. Podcast yes i am every it is it is. It is well respected as well. Listen to The numbers are good. that i checked The the overnight numbers were very strong. So people were happy with you as a as a guest on the and it's not the first time you've been a guest on the bbc j. appearance yes so it was. It was important third appearance because there was a lot going on this time. It wasn't just like it's june. let's have mo- on. Yeah which is what. It was the first time. And then the second time you had me on talk about should. Cincinnati played miami and football anymore. And this time there was actually something important. Talk about right it was. It was an important conversation. And i'm glad that you were a part of it. I was happy to be a part of it Thanks for chiming. If you hear anything else feel free. You call the hotline. Call it again. Let us know all right. Thanks i will write chad. Rental bearcat journal dot com eighteen minutes. After four o'clock so things are moving in the right direction. We were late and we gotta get our guy. Pat brown on fc cincinnati plays tomorrow will preview the season with him next big day for us. Yesterday it was announced that Fc cincinnati is back on its original radio home right here. Espn fifteen thirty destined time for the season to begin tomorrow night fc. Cincinnati road for the first three row tilts before they christened the new stadium at nashville tomorrow. Evening thirty right here on. Espn fifteen thirty in all year long covering the orange and blue with no peer is our buddy pat brennan. He has done a season preview. It's available at cincinnati dot com as as well as on twitter at p brennan e. n. q. And always good to come on with us. It's nice to have you. How are you doing really well. It's great to talk to you again. Man socrates in cincinnati great. There's there's some. I detect among most fc. Cincinnati fans cautious optimism based on. What has been a busy off season of all the offseason developments for this club. What was the most significant. Ooh that's a great question I could go a lot of directions there. I think the easy answer is probably the obvious. Answer is Brenner sousa silva the twenty one year old brazilian that they paid big -nificant money to bring in to be kind of the guy offensively for fc cincinnati if that signing pans out the way even you know a little bit the way people hope and expect it will fc cincinnati. We'll be head and shoulders. Above what it has been its first two years in. Mls mel goal scoring the first two years in mls. Needless to say has been an issue. How much based on what. They've done this off. Season has that been rectified I think is significant amount. And i'm saying that without having seen too too much of them in person with my own two is which makes it really hard for me to evaluate right. And that's just that's just. That's just a symptom of the pandemic. You know it's been talked about a lot media accession the pandemic for sports teams. I personally don't begrudge anyone over that but it has made my job harder and even with that you know considering for the lack of games. I've seen this play a this team play and that i haven't seen him kick a ball in person with my own two eyes what i have seen and certainly what i've heard and i am willing to trust the organization on a lot of what i've heard is that the offense is just significantly significantly improved. Because you like a lot of sports like basketball on our sixers are next mo- guys second. You need guys that can put it in the whole but you need facilitators to get it to the guys who are going to score the ball right. So that's he. Cincinnati has never really had the one thing they definitely lacked in addition to goal scoring. Is that game changing facilitator and they went out and acquired a guy Highly touted internationally as actually played a fair amount of his time and mls. his name is luciano acosta and he plays a very critical kind of transitional position To put it in layman's terms and he is going to be the facilitator this year for guys like brenner. Lie just mentioned and you're going to cottiaux for however much longer he's here and everyone else that is going to be You know. I don't have to be at every practice session to know that having that guy having a competent player at that position is it's just going to change things enormously because this team. This is a club that two years ago allowed a record number of goals in major league soccer last year. They had seven on clean sheets. That's the correct term that seven clean sheets guy got a guy. 'cause i called him shutouts last year in a guy got mad at me so they were better in that regard. How much does that and part of that might have been style of play and we talked about that often last year part of that might have been style but how much of that can carry over. How much of that improvement can carry over and even be built upon this year. I that's actually one of the areas. Where a little bit concerned about this team oh They had some key players including kendall watson kind of big bruising hulking center defender kind of in the middle of the defense He's no longer with team. Also had a really nice player on the left. Wing named andrew. Gutman he's no longer with this team. I think that The defense actually mo while. That was a strength last year. And i think like twenty one verse twenty twenty one versus twenty nineteen se. Cincinnati will still be markedly improved from that initial team. That gave up a record amount of goals. Like you mentioned. But i actually. I my concern for this team is that they might regress a little bit defensively. They have some new faces back there. they don't have quite the level of cohesion just in terms of continuity just in terms of guys that have played together that are coming back to the same team and they're kind of peace mailing it right now. They have some New centreback that they've acquired who's promising but he cut his teeth in the ecuadorian. First division. i don't know that that's a great proving ground. And i don't know that anyone knows for sure that this guy is going to translate the instant success in adolescent fc cincinnati so That's a big question mark for me. I think you know if the if the baseline that were judging them by is that twenty nineteen which i think in in many cases that is the case this is still going to be a better defense more or less whether or not they can defend at the level that they defended that last year. I that's to be determined. There's a lot of Few question walks along that that back line. So that's gonna be an interesting thing to watch tomorrow and well into the summer. Pat brennan covers fc cincinnati for the inquirer and cincinnati dot com. He's on twitter. At p brennan ian queue you mentioned the word continuity and go back fourteen fifteen months where we're dealing with a coaching change. That sort of that whole drama unfolded very very quickly. They introduced a new coach. Wants the season had already started during the shutdown and they they put Yop stom- in place before the tournament and orlando and it's it's just been a really chaotic last two two and a half years from from a coaching standpoint. from a front office standpoint. It does feel now though like they are structured at the front office and technical levels like an actual major league soccer franchise. I'm not sure. I could have said that. At the beginning of the twenty nine thousand nine hundred. And i feel like i could say that now and that can't be anything but a good thing. Yeah it's a great thing. I think the yobs thumb is Not just you know. There was always a sense with alan koch and twenty nineteen and With gerard or excuse. Me jarred with ron yawns. Before he was fired. I mean there was a sense. That was a temporary nature just a just an aura of temporary miss around their positions in the club and nothing was guaranteed well into the future for them and nothing's guaranteed to too far into the future for tom. But you get the sense that for the first time ever. They have a head coach in. Mls that is the guy and he's been working in concert With general manager to bring in the kinds of players that he wants for his system. As you and i talked about in the past that players that suit this head coach that he likes that he has already with from other stops and his career And the word that comes to mind. They like i already said continuity you know the head coach last year in preseason was able to work with the team and work with the general manager. Gerard camp to do the same thing. But then he went and got himself fired in mid-february so like you said right out of the gate just kind of chaos you have. The none of these things are lying. They either had the head coach but not the players. That head coach wanted or the gm wasn't in place and so on and so forth. It's just kind of all. Those pieces have been mixed match since fc. Cincinnati came into mls. Really all in. They are more in alignment today than they have ever been. And i think that's going to breed a much. More success ultimately a much more successful onfield products for this organization. You've you've offered up a prediction for the season that's available and the piece you did for this morning at cincinnati dot com. I'll send people to that But on top of that. I guess what i would want to know. What what what for made what from a win loss. Point standpoint constitutes a successful season for this club. that's a great asset. Really good question. Because while i said in the in the piece that you mentioned on cincinnati dot com i expect fc cincinnati to finish Around eleventh place. I think it could be hard going early in the season. I three games on the road all against really talented playoff teams from last year. They could play really good soccer and lose all three of those games. Nine of i fifteen on the road that in that sense i think that the deck is stacked against fc cincinnati plus. They have all these new faces. I just don't think it looks great for them. The outlook at the in the first half of the season but You know i. I think they could get you know. If they're in the area of look they on average last year being kind of the outlier because they had ten teams and it was a pandemic shortened crazy season on average. You need about forty five to fifty points in the standings to qualify for that seventh and final playoff spot in the eastern conference since they went to seven teams I don't think jesse cincinnati will be I don't think they're gonna cross that threshold obviously By virtue of my prediction finish and eleven place. I think they could get close to forty. I think they could be in the mid thirties. I think they could have eight or nine wins which would be almo- almost equal The amount that they've had over the first two seasons combined okay. So i'm not talking about a world-beating product this coming year And i don't think too. Many people expect that to be the case. Although i think like you said people are cautiously optimistic and holding out. Hope that could happen. Not a lotta people expected but when you talk about this team being in the in the realm of eight or nine wins you throw in some ties there. And if they're in the mid thirties in terms of points and you know they put some distance between themselves and the seller of that eastern conference where they've been absolutely trapped the last two years. That's that is a reasonably good return. If you're being fair yeah. Everyone wants to see him in the playoffs. That's not necessarily realistic. That's that would take a big jump. That probably takes more than one off season. That's where i think they'll end up. Probably thirty five to forty points in the standings and Respectable formidable ultimately not a playoff team. And that's okay. that's okay. They were digging out of a big hole and they still are give me. I got forty five seconds. Here give me a quick review. The first home game in the new stadiums go a month from today. Gimme gimme a forty five second review of the stadium or how the game stadium this old. It's it's fantastic. I i was lucky enough to Tore the stadium with the players and it was the players. i tore. this happened on monday. So usually these guys are little too cool. you know. They don't like to get their hands emotionally at anytime on or off the field but you could see through the hard hats and you know the surgical pandemic masks like they were really in all of the stadium. It's world class. Everyone i talk. I've been writing about it for some stuff. We have coming down the line though. This stadium looks like it could be in london or amsterdam or just name. The big european city where soccer is very rich in its history and very popular. That's what the western stadium looks like consents. Atty it's just. It's going to be really cool with where things stand right now in the nba eastern conference the knicks. Hold a six spot which means they would avoid the plan. That is good news for you as a seventy sixers fan if they hold onto the first or second seed see them until the eastern conference finals comment on that. I don't want. I don't want to touch the nick and good with that with that. I think about where we both. We both take that. Wouldn't we catch. Are you kidding me. Take it getting not responsible for what i would do. If if that were to be the kings. I appreciate it as always and we'll do it again. Thanks so much. Thank so. I'm going to have a good on ads. Pat brennan cincinnati dot com covers. Fc cincinnati you'll hear the game live tomorrow night from nashville on espn. Fifteen thirty starts at eight thirty brennaman and jones on baseball in about fifteen minutes on. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station from david bell. Coming up in the five o'clock hour also one hour from now interview with new. Uc head coach. Les miller formally introduced today. A couple of things really quickly may disorganized mess. There's my card Sports updates is service of kelsey chevrolet. I only had the entire break to find the card service of kelsey chevrolet home of lifetime powertrain protection and guaranteed credit approval from their family to yours for live kelsey chef dot com reds and indians. Tonight at great american ballpark first of a three game. Series of for the vaunted ohio cop seven tenths. Tonight's first pitch. Jeff hoffman will start the game for cincinnati. He'll be opposed by lefty by the name of logan allen. Cleveland just continues to crank out really good young. Starting pitching your starting line at this evening. Winker leads off against the lefty followed by casting his veto. Soiree says mustafa send sell india. Stevenson and hoffman is batting ninth. Aristide is keno goes on The interlaced with a broken bone in his left hand max rock has been called up from the alternate training site. Meanwhile west miller formerly introduced this morning as the new basketball coach at the university of cincinnati. Mikey saunders has tweeted out that he is coming back to uc for what will be his sophomore season One other college basketball note. Xavier today announced the jonas hayes has been promoted to associate head coach. Andrew spending three seasons on travis steel staff as an assistant coach. Fc cincinnati nashville tomorrow on espn fifteen. Thirty game starts at eight thirty and you see spring. Game is tomorrow as well. Seventeen from five o'clock. I've been wanting to get to this. And then chad called in with breaking news. Pat brennan the william hill sportsbook released today. Projected win totals for the two thousand twenty one. Nfl season the cincinnati bengals. Who last year. Most books had five a half for many at closed six. When the season started for the bengals this year the projected win. Total is six and a half only a handful of other teams have lower projected win totals for the upcoming season. The new york jets the detroit. Lions the jacksonville jaguars and the houston texans. Each projected to have lower win totals than the bengals. this year. The texans who are a total disaster right now five the lions five jets jaguars six cincinnati six and a half. Top total belongs to kansas city at twelve tampa bay eleven and a half green bay in baltimore eleven so also in the division. The browns ten pittsburgh at nine. I will crush the under with the steelers. Poll question at malaga. Fifteen thirty and i try to frame this in a specific way. Because i want you to think about what you and this was admittedly hard for some people to do. It's easy to go over but right it's an amount of money you have to go either way. It's an amount of money that matters to you. Where're you going over under six. And a half seventy two percent. Say over six and a half. This is somewhat easy for me. I'm going over now. mind you over. Doesn't necessarily mean they have to win. Twelve games it means. They have to win seven two basic variables for me. I am going to assume that. Joe burrow right now is going to play the overwhelming majority of those games. Possibly seventeen one might say likely seventeen. The other part of this is the game total this year. Seventeen games the extra games at home at home against a team. That's going to be pretty tough san francisco. I don't get as involved with the schedule. Is going to be tougher this year though. That obviously is a major variable. Because who knows how the season is gonna unfold. Can the bengals go seven and ten. Can they increase their win. Total by three joe burrow for a full season fifth overall pick possibly being an impact player a defense. that is overhauled. I'm not sure how much better it's gonna be seventeen games. Can they go seven and ten. You might be among the twenty eight percent. Says there's no way. I am going to put money on the bengals heading the over but i will say this if this team is six and eleven at the end of the year. What are we doing. I mean legitimately say whatever you want about their approach in free agency who they should take the draft when all that pans out if this results in a team that can't hit the over you talk about a low bar. I'm not. I'm not even discussing go to. The playoffs are having a winning record. I'm going vegas over. Under which by the way last year. I think a lot of people viewed that way right. It's going to be a successful year. If they can hit the over boroughs injury might have had something to do with that. But let's be honest hitting the over last year would have been six wins. Means they win. Four of those games. Joe didn't play. they want to. They went to more Think it might be a stretch to say. Yes and i'm in love with. Joe pearl was a player i it sorta does go to show. The expectations for this team are still going to be pretty low. The roster top to bottom is not yet viewed as overwhelmingly good in the draft is going to change that to a degree. I don't know from a projection from a vegas standpoint. And that's only one way looking at things from vegas standpoint that the draft is going to send that number drastically higher from six and a half to eight and a half or nine and a half so i would buy now if you do think that and i don't think it's going to go down based on what happens in the draft. It may come down by half a win if you find out that burrows not gonna play week one because he's not yet ready but this simple for me healthy joan an extra game. Seven wins if seven wins isn't doable. This whole thing needs to be reexamined and maybe blown up i. I'm sorry man. You can't hit the vegas over again. I'm not talking about having a winning record or get into the postseason. You can't hit the vegas over. If you're zac taylor dude. I can't do it anymore. For four unproven head coach. No track record. Can't even hit seven wins now. This all changes. If joe burrow something bad happens to him and he can't play the majority of their games. That's a game changer. There are injuries that would be game changers but frankly i don't know man the year one to year two leap different type of off season for the team itself. An impact player with the fifth overall. Pick defense overhaul one might say upgrades a better right. Tackle mixing healthy coming into the season. Seven wins to me is not just doable. It is a baseline bottom line. Expectation baseline expectation. My money is on the over and frankly pretty confidently so my job. I'm usually the guy that says they're either going to go ten and six six and ten i that now. That's an a sixteen game here. I don't think they're gonna go ten and seven. I'll think they're going to go six and eleven. Either and i feel i. Frankly feel more comfortable about ten wins than i would eleven losses. I'm crushing the over. I'm like seventy two percent over eighteen in fact over one thousand nine hundred votes now at malaga fifteen thirty. You can get your vote in. But i felt i said to tony pike today. I feel like this is gonna finish around eight percent over not quite that but pretty up domestic nonetheless. Ten minutes away from five o'clock brennaman and jones on baseball minutes away on. Espn fifteen thirty. No uncovers bingos. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station seven minutes. After five o'clock this is espn fifteen thirty. I'm allegra so glad you're here coming up. You're gonna hear david bell talk about aristotle's aquino who's gone on the injured list with what we have determined. Is these same broken hand. That i had twelve years ago playing softball. Plus he'll give an update on shogo akiyama as reds set to play the indians tonight. I three gb and thought on fc cincinnati as they get set to begin their season tomorrow. Night against nashville. You'll also hear coming up in about twenty five minutes. My conversation with the new men's basketball coach at the university of cincinnati west miller who was formerly introduced. Today you will hear him talk about among other things the zoom call that he had last night with a bunch of former players by the way. It's also worth mentioning. Mike saunders has made it known via his twitter account that he is planning on coming back to the university of cincinnati after he had entered the transfer portal with wes. Yet press conference today. That excited a lot of people i am. I'm always a little wary of falling in love with coach at the introductory press conference. There are times where. I feel really good about a coach after the press conference and ends up working out. Luke fickle felt different than tommy tucker ville and the results have been different than the ones that tommy tucker phil posted. I felt great about his press conference. John brennan press conference. I walked away from thinking. Yup well results. Let's be honest. They weren't terrible but it didn't completely tommy tucker villes press pep rally and that felt more like a pep rally that a press conference member thinking like. Wow mood has changed all right. Let's go and that didn't work out. But all i can do is go on what i've seen and heard over the last day or so. I see and hear a guy who seems to be in touch with what the program has become understands. The importance of forming an identity understands the rebuilding project at hand here has established some good early relationship with current players. seems genuinely fired up to be the basketball coach here and understands the importance of family. We've heard a lot about former players. We've seen the reaction of former players to cincinnati non hiring. Eric martin west miller had zoom call with former players yesterday afternoon. Kenyon martin was on the call. Gary clark was on the call. Damore johnson was on the call among others. Alex october believe lenny. Stokes was on the call in regards to the former players. And look. It's cool when those guys are around. Okay what program. You're it for savior fan. It's cooling former xavier players. Come around right. It's cool when they're a part of the program. It's cool when they want to be involved. It's cool when they wanna help and certainly. The coach has to be willing to accept their help and has to do his part to either maintain the relationship or in some cases fixed the relationship between the program as it exists currently at guys who are part of the fabric of that program and one of the exciting things about west miller is. He seems to understand the importance of that. Which is we talked about this a little bit yesterday. Not a surprise. Due to carolina guy the carolina basketball family is something you hear about all the time to your college hoops fan but it is on the players to give him a chance and my guess is most if not all will give him a chance. You could be disappointed by an outcome. You could be disappointed by a decision like when it comes to politics. When my candidate doesn't win i always went to give whoever won a shot. Sometimes i give them a shot and disappointed. Sometimes i give them a shot. And i end up being pleasantly surprised. They oh west miller shot. But you know. Let's let's be honest about the last time you see basketball. Needed a rebuild. And frankly i don't think the job that west miller has in front of him is nearly as uphill as the one that mick cronin walked into a fifteen years ago when mitt got the job that was a pretty rough toxic environment where there was an and understandably so a disconnect between bearcats of the president and bearcats of the past. Well guess what mixed had a job to do. And if former players wanted to help great if former players were allowed to help could ask that question but former players wanted to help great but just because they couldn't doesn't mean the program's good to sit still without them and make rebuilt this program in an atmosphere. That for whatever reason no matter who was at fault oftentimes felt disconnected at least for a while from what you see basketball. Used to be where players were pissed off. And he's very understandably so and many did not want anything to do with the program and that could not preclude me from doing his job. And i feel the same thing about west miller It's great if those guys are involved you have to make them wanna feel involved if they don't want to be involved okay. We're moving on without you. And i think that's going to happen. You're also going to hear less when he talks with me in about thirty minutes. Let's go back. Xavier rivalry in. And like i say that as a cat fan right but i think it's i think the rivalry is more fun when everybody involved embraces it. I didn't have many criticisms of mix time in cincinnati. But he did everything he could to make sure everybody knew. He wanted nothing to do with playing xavier. And by the way. There's a lot of barakat fan so we'll do the same thing three years. First of all what are you going to schedule. it's better. it is a game that matters to a lot of people. And i think there's two things about this number one. You want to connect with folks embrace the rivalry number two. I think a better chance of performing well in the rivalry when you embrace what it is and it is not just another game. You'll hear west. Miller talk about the. Ucs xavier rivalry in thirty minutes. He referenced it today during his press availability. Fourteen minutes after five o'clock we you'll hear david bell here in a few minutes we'll get to the reds and indians this weekend. We were happy to announce yesterday that fc cincinnati games are back on espn fifteen. Thirty thrilled for them. Throw for us. It's good and so you can hear the game tomorrow night. Fc cincinnati vs nashville. And there's going to be a lot of excitement around the new stadium and as as hopefully Teams are allowed to start bringing more people back. And i believe within the next month like you'll see the reds be allowed to invite invite to have more fans and how that gets reflected by fc cincinnati first couple of home games. I don't know but they're going to have a slowly. Hopefully more people able to come back and when that happens the talk is going to be the atmosphere of the stadium of the environment of the movement. Which has been so much fun to follow since two thousand sixteen this year. Three of major league soccer. it's year one and a new stadium. That front office feels like it is finely structured from gerard camp to tom. It feels like the technical staff and front office are finally what it is supposed supposed to be. For a major league sports franchise. It's time for this franchise to become a part of these sports landscape and be judged by its ability to win or lose games. It was striking to me at the end of the year. Talking with diehard fc cincinnati fans. How put off. They were by the onfield product. Their second last home game the banners. The foods if you will in the bailey were gone. The fans weren't there last year. They took banners away a big old middle finger to fc cincinnati. The onfield product has to be better. My question from almost the outset has been look. It's a great night out. It's a well run franchise from that standpoint. The grassroots fan outreach has been incredible. Those games at nippert stadium were awesome. And they're going to be awesome at the beautiful new stadium. I haven't been inside. But man i can't find anybody who's been inside. Who says it's not awesome but at some point you are judged by your results. The reds are the bengals are the major college. Sports teams in town are cincinnati. Should be but coming off. The last couple of seasons with an active offseason behind them with what it feels like the instability with the coaching staff. Hopefully behind him. It's time to start putting on a product that grabs as much attention as the atmosphere as the environment as the attendance totals and as the stadium. And hopefully that begins tomorrow night. You'll hear the game live on. Espn fifteen thirty starting at eight thirty. Meanwhile the ohio cup up for grabs reds and indians first of three tonight cincinnati. Coming off a pretty disappointing road trip. Quite frankly but they're still seven five. We'll get to the weekend ahead for the reds you'll hear david bell on aristide's aquino shogo akiyama and a bunch more on espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station. Twenty two five this is. Espn fifteen thirty molester. In ten minutes my conversation with uc head coach. Wes miller introduced today at fifth. Third arena. you'll hear him talk about a lot of different things looking forward to that. Meanwhile reds and indians tonight. Atta great american ballpark reds announcing a transaction. Arizona's aquino goes on the ten day interlude retroactive to wednesday. He had surgery this morning to remove the hook of the hammett in his left hand. He's got a fracture in his left hand. And we think we think that maybe i've had the same injury were we're not completely short nonetheless. Aristide has a to the i l. Here is david bell on that earlier today. Yeah it was. It was on a swing. Which would that in that particular injury and there may be other ways to Fracture that that on But i've always heard. I've only heard of it in baseball. And i've only heard on a swing and i don't know if it was the second last week. He took her the last thing he took in a game in a pinch hit at bat off mcgee v. I'm not mistaken i. I didn't find out about it until the next day. Because i think it was in the last inning but we were pretty concerned and then On on the last and san francisco and he he wasn't going to be available that day and then we got check out yesterday and confirmed we thought it could be so. It was on a swing. So there's david bell on aristide is a keno who is at least for a while going to be unavailable. What shogo akiyama hasn't played yet this year dealing with a hamstring. Here's david on his sidelined. Outfielder looking forward to catch up with him today. you know we have the progression laid out pretty well and we're still hoping to happen back first week in. May you know for i ten days anyway. May permanent keeps going the way it is so i'll be with the he'll be alternating between here and really bill while we're while we're home and something different every day you know. I have a counter with his different activities every day. And it's a slow but steady progression. You know he's he's getting closer and closer. So there's david bell from earlier this afternoon on both aristide aquino shogo akiyama reds and indians tonight. With jeff hoffman getting the ball for cincinnati. It's interesting jesse. Winker is leading off tonight. The indians are throwing out a lefty logan allen and they continue to crank out really good starting pitching tribe of one seven out of ten on the heels on the backbone of a pretty impressive staff. And we'll see if if these small offensive swoon. We saw from the san francisco and arizona. Trip ends up being more reflective of what this team is. i continue to maintain through twelve games. Which by the ninety four and a half wind pace at seven and five that whatever you felt about the reds sixteen days ago for me should be basically what you feel about the reds right now. The six and one start which was great. Didn't tell me that this was going to be ninety five win team. The two and four trip does not tell me that this is going to be a seventy win team. I think with the offense. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle and they're going to be roughly a middle of the pack team. The question i have for this club and frankly has been the question. I've had all along. What how much does whatever regression there is. The pitching staff offset whatever gains are made by the offense. Sunny gray comes back tomorrow. Which is a very important development. I still believe despite the struggles of louis. Steel that if the reds ended up being good and in contention and put themselves in a position to win this division it is going to be on the strength of the front three of the starting rotation that front three comes back to the pack significantly then whatever gains. They make offensively. Frankly aren't really gonna matter all that much reds and indians tonight by the way poll question at malaga. Fifteen thirty on the Over under vegas bengals six. And a half william hill sportsbook. Seventy three percent taking the over surge of optimism for the bengals and we haven't even seen who they're taking the draft yet that anything is indicative of the joe burrow effect. Twenty eight minutes. After five o'clock landmark day new head basketball coach introduced earlier today. You'll hear my interview with west miller next on. Espn fifteen thirty data service. Kelsey chevrolet home of lifetime powertrain protection and guaranteed credit approval from their family. The yours for life kelsey chef dot com mentioned reds and indians. Tonight your starting line at this evening winker cast whereas moose sent zell india. stevenson hoffman. Seven ten tonight seven hundred w aristide is a keno to the injured list with a broken bone in his hand. Max frock is up set to make his reds debut when he finally plays. Mikey saunders says he's coming back to uc for his sophomore season. Xavier has promoted jonas hayes to associate head coach after three seasons on travis steel staff at cincinnati set to play. Its first game tomorrow. Night against nashville. That game is live on. Espn fifteen thirty in the spring game is tomorrow as well. West miller officially introduced as new basketball coach at the university of cincinnati. And he is with us this afternoon. I appreciate the time. I cannot imagine what the last few days have been like. Tell me what the last. What's it been like these last forty eight to seventy two hours. It's felt like just one big day that keeps go it's it's been a whirlwind but it's been the citing This is the type of place that i've always dreamed about being coach. And so when this happened it's exhilarating but then there's a realization. How much work we have to do right away. And so. I'm i'm so excited the adrenaline pumping so i'm not tired at all. But there's a lot of work to be on we. This thing's been moving really fast. And i think it's going to continue to be that way for a while so it's been an interesting experience but a great one. Take me through. Take us through the process. When when the job i shows up on your radar when it first feels like you know what i've got a shot at that particular job was what was the process that ultimately led you to uc. Well last friday. I knew the job was open. it was i. I'll be really honest. I wanted to hear from john cunningham. I wanted to hear from cincinnati. I was hoping had my phone with me all day and when the text came through i told john this A couple days later and we were talking in person. I wanted to be the fastest person to respond to his text message so when it came through i felt like i was texting. It was coming through And so you know started with that. We talked on saturday over the phone. Got to know each other. A little bit Then we zoomed on sunday and got into much more debt and then we were able to to meet in person. I believe tuesday. I believe tuesday And then see some of the facilities here on campus and you know the longer process went the more. I felt like this could be real. This happen in the more. I thought like it was the right fit for me from from the time that the job landed on your radar or the job opening landed on your radar to right. Now what have you learned about the job. What have you learned about the program. The school in the time since then oscar. Great question allow always. I've always known how special this basketball program was. I grew up watching this program and coach huggins in that area. You know. I've watched this program really closely during college. Cronies years i've been into coaching you know mired it and tried to learn from it from a distance so i've always had the awareness of what this program was about the respect for what it is and i've always known it's one of the greatest programs in history basketball. I pride myself on being a basketball junkie and understanding not just basketball during my lifetime but how we got to this point going back to the sixties and the history and tradition. I've always been really aware that you know as we got into the process. What i've really come really came to find out. Was that the things that i value really aligned with the things that everyone values around here in this institution in this community With the leadership here. And that's what i've been learning about. And that's what's giving me more conviction. Every moment that this is a great fit for me elaborate on that. If you will i i heard you say that. At the at the press conference today that your values align with those of the university What what does what does that mean. How can you elaborate on that. I think the standard of excellence right. There's a certain standard that people expect from cincinnati basketball I learned a lot about how. This institution has grown over the last forty years. I mean this is an excellent institution. There's a lot of pride here People really care here this place again. I'm learning most. I'm not gonna figure it out. But i get a sense that this is about people that have crit toughness and chip on their shoulder whether that the basketball program. We're just kind. The general field that i get about being in cincinnati and i get the thing i've just been blown away with a really short period of time of being on the ground. Is the pride people feel to be from here to being this community. you know. Those are things that i value i. I think i keep saying people. People can get across my southern accent. I think people values that same mindset and that same type of driving work ethic so i think those are some of the values a lot do do you see him. You had an extraordinarily long run at unc greensboro and a successful run. Do you see parallels between the situation that you walked into when you became a first time head coach there versus what you're walking into here. I mean i was twenty eight. We screwed it up everywhere. You could possibly screw it up the first three or four years we were there and you know i think life works out. I was really fortunate to get the opportunity with no experience. We screwed it up every way as i mentioned and the leadership there just kind of elite than what we were trying to do and gave me a chance to work through it and says that that was a blessing. Somewhere that that can happen and that doesn't happen very much in college athletics I hope it doesn't take that long if it does. Nobody will be more disappointed than me so. I don't believe there is going to be a parallel there. Where i i do hope. There's a parallel as we built something. Sustainable we built something that you could expect year after year as we got it going there and the players would change but the the mentality the approach the way that we played the game standard that we expect on a day-to-day basis. That became a cultural thing The results became something that our players worked for. And i do some parallels in that in that area over over three decades. I think whether it was during coach huggins regime certainly over thirteen years with mick cronin i think most people here and frankly i think most people around the country probably even yourself you had in your mind's eye of vision of cincinnati basketball team looked like this is a program that has long had an identity. What does the identity of a west miller coach team look like. We're going to be tough. We're going to be physical. We're gonna all buy into the defensive end of the four. I to what we do on the backboard i to the things that when you extra possessions putting your body on the ball loose balls flections impact winning on the possession possession basis. I really believe that. So many college basketball games come down to one two or three possessions. There's a certain approach mentality to win those one two or three possessions and that's what separates great teams from. Just okay things. So we're gonna we're gonna invest in those areas. I and find people that are willing to invest in those areas. think offensively. You know we're gonna play a style of basketball. I think young people wanna play. We're going to play with some pace We're gonna give them freedom to go grow and they play and play through some steaks So i think there's a little give and take there but we are gonna play exciting brand of basketball fun brand of basketball but we're going to be pretty nasty how we defend in some of the things we do physically defensively and on the backboard. You mentioned today that you you plan on this being a quote players i program. What does that look like. I think it means that the decisions we make in the way that we operate every day has to take into account. What's best for the person. And what's best for the young people in that locker room. That doesn't mean letting them do whatever they want or making them. Happy every second. It means caring for them being invested in their growth and making them feel like they matter and so everything we do. Be about those guys and the former guys. 'cause guys we have the kind of success we want to have on a basketball or if the people out there aren't succeeding and they don't believe that you generally care about them so we're gonna try to really invest in the people. I i can't imagine what what your to do. List looks like over the coming days but very very high is going to be recruiting and that that involves players that you might have to ask to come back to the program that involves players in the transfer portal who are looking for new places that involves obviously kids coming out of out of high school. Walk me through what what's ahead. Walk me through what the appeal is going to be. An already has been to players. Who are here. This past season that are thinking about coming back are open to coming back. Walk me through. The transfer portal landscape is gonna look like which i'm sure you were already preparing for in your previous position. And how do you hit the ground running in terms of recruiting kids who are still looking to start their college basketball careers this fall and maybe have the university of cincinnati. Be a part of their thought process. Sure no no. I think it starts with the current guys here The guys that have been at cincinnati that that came here for the same reason that i came here felt something believes something Tried to meet with all of them yesterday. At least the ones that were here at drove up a net with mike saunders and his family last night indianapolis trying to get to each one of those guys and tell them that we want to start with the foundation of what's already here An be honest about who we are. We're trying to do and and make sure we get that nucleus together And it's about like you said getting out in recruiting we can put together competitive roster within all is. I think it's important that i assemble a stack quickly Because i certainly can't do all this just by myself so while we're going through that process. I think i'm also trying to put together a staff. Those are the main priorities. The current players then obviously the recruiting the piece around the put together a great roster and then within that trying to get a staff so so we can start putting our team together to execute those things There have been. I know you're aware of this. We always talk here about the bearcat family and the the opinions of former players are often. They're not. They're not shy about expressing how they feel about whatever direction that the program is going in and said over the last couple of days. Look we're getting somebody who's a tarheel. And when i think of north carolina basketball i think of maybe the biggest extended family in all of college sports. If there's anybody who understands the importance of connecting past to present. It's going to be somebody who comes from that family. One of your first things. One of your first things you did. Was you had a chance to connect with a bunch of former players via zoom. I know you're probably. There's probably a lot of that. You don't wanna make public. But can you give us an idea of how you feel that. When and what your impressions from from that that conversations were we. It's one of the reasons moses. I'm so excited about being this job because people care so much and the people that care the most because they've been invest most of the people that wore the jersey and so guys that wore the jersey over generations. Care that much about a program. You know it's really special from my background. I totally understand that dynamic. I'm not saying. I understand it here yet but i understand the idea of that in. It's really powerful. It's also not simple right. It is as you just mentioned former cincinnati players for the most part. Don't know me yet. They shouldn't just with open arms welcoming. They care that much. I should have to earn their respect. Earn their trust. And i think we'll do that by how we approach things how we let them know how much they matter your our program moving forward we want them included. And i think what i know. Is they want a certain level of basketball to be played. They want a certain standard of basketball because they did when they were here. And i look forward to get into program to a level that they're really proud of it every time. Run out of that tom. What is the greatest lesson. You've learned that. You've applied your coaching career. From roy williams. It's it's such a hard question. I've been asked multiple times. It's it's just such a loaded question because there's not one great answer You know he's sat. And i sat in his office being recruited there and the reason i went there was because he asked me what i wanted to do when i was done playing basketball and said i wanna coach and he said you have coming because i will help you that. There's no better place for you to be to help you get into coaching. He and he's follow through with that. Twentyfold is the greatest decision. I ever made because how much he's helped me grow and mentor me as a coach and it hasn't stopped when i got a head coaching job. It's gotten stronger and stronger. The the real deal and it's inspired me to want to have those same types of relationships in that same type of follow through with the guys that i can but the most important thing that i think i can take from them as i'd like to goblins competitive as anybody in the world and i think which williams fits into that category as well but he that competitive he competes at the highest possible level but he also has the moral fiber to not cross a line or two still treat people the right way and i think that's rare in the highest levels of college athletics and it's inspired me to try to live up to that in my coaching career. Another minute because you're being pulled in a thousand different directions and you've already been very generous with your time. How you were asked about the xavier rivalry today you you understand. Rivalries the significance of them. What they mean to people what they mean to fans what they mean to players. How how important is it you. You were asked about the xavier game. I'm sure instantly you were asked about it today. How important is it for a head coach to embrace the significance of a rivalry like duke north carolina or here for my money. The best rivalry in college basketball. Cincinnati versus xavier. I love it. I love it. I mean we live for this right. Is competitors Coaches you dream about coaching and those types of games you know like you said i in another rivalry that That has another intense rivalry. I played in you. You dreamed about playing that game. Those are some of the greatest competitive moments ever had to play. I've dreamed about coaching in this game. And so i think you know when you wake up in the morning and wanna hit snooze. You're thinking about beaten xavier. Right and i can. I can feel just being on the ground here or there were a couple of days. And i i don't i don't wanna get off on the wrong but i think what makes the greatest rivalries grade is the success of both programs right that that. There's no great rivalry. One program stinks. It's the success both and you've got to programs that have had great success in this kind of proximity So i have tremendous respect for that. And i have respect travis. But then we're gonna wanna beat them. There's no doubt about it every day. Your plate is full as as things settled down. What are you. What are you looking forward to getting to know about. Just living in the cincinnati area. Well i think for the for the first couple months because as you mentioned there's so much to do I think it's just gonna be trying to get this roster together Get team together on my staff and get up and running so that we can put a team together to compete the way that everybody expects us to compete on the for next year. But whenever i feel that at least i have a chance to breathe. I wanna find the great pays to live. I wanna find the best restaurants in town hall duty and at some point i'll get out and play some good for a person. There's some good golfing area. But i do think that going to take a little time because we're not gonna come up for air for a while. It's funny on our show. We've talked about roy. Williams coming to watch play and we've been guessing which golf courses join so i know that's going to be a part of the deal when he comes here. You also of course. I would be not doing my civic responsibility if i didn't tell you to get to a skyline chili as soon as possible and i know i'm not the first person or the last to tell you that i'm trying to think if what if i've heard at more beat out out i'll let you run. I really appreciate the time. I know the first day or so it could be a whirlwind so thanks for spending some time forest. Congratulations welcome in cincinnati. Were excited that you're here and looking forward to bothering you often over the coming years. Thanks so much waymo fired up. Thank night west. Miller had coach university of cincinnati. We are done. don't forget. fc cincinnati game tomorrow night on espn fifteen thirty twenty. Pike back at it. Monday at noon. The bengals uniform reveal will be among the things we talked about on monday afternoon. Starting at three zero five. We are done. Thank you for listening. Thanks to taryn for producing. Have a great weekend. This is espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sport station last night. So i went to a fresh might soon.

basketball cincinnati west miller West miller Espn xavier university of cincinnati bengals pat brennan reds uc huggins dave lapham Cincinnati university of cincinnati reds baseball espn mick cronin softball archie bradley
Dave at the Tunbridge Fair

The Dave Gram Show on WDEV

1:27:08 hr | 1 year ago

Dave at the Tunbridge Fair

"The from Radio Vermont it's the Dave Graham show on. WD It's your show about the people places and the issues that matter the the most you now. Here's your host. Dave graft good morning on this Thursday morning. September twelfth two thousand and nineteen and we are broadcasting. We live this morning from the Tunbridge Fair Tunbridge Vermont. He tunbridge world's fair that is it's a terrific. Vermont tradition a real classic Old Agricultural Fair here with all the livestock and the the food. You're cardiologists may not what you'd eat and your in all sorts of amusement here lots of rides their tons of shows coming up during the course of this four day fair that lasts from today Thursday up until Sunday the let's see I guess it'll be the fifteenth at twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen th yes indeed and I wanted to start out this morning a little conversation. WD vs own Roger Hill because we have had a few sprinkles this morning. It's a little on the chilly side but I'm hearing from Rogers earlier report that it's going to improve Roger. What can you tell us yeah. It looks like you know you might see some sprinkles both another hours and that'll about it might even see some breaks of Sun China after say eleven o'clock thirty eleven o'clock so all right now there is some rain showers working cross good portion of Orange County Kinda just south of the Burma Puglia area. This is all GonNa be exiting out of the region and things will gradually improve temperatures today around around sixty five a little bit later on so a little bit of a wet start the Tunbridge fair but I can guarantee that things will improve here in another couple of hours. That is that's. It sounds like it'll be perfectly fair weather when most of the folks get here and it just. I'm trying to figure out what it means. philosophically or something that the clearing skies will come after the day grammar show is over uh-huh. What's up with that. I don't expect meteorologist of the questions I shouldn't ask. Hey the ornament mixing what seems to me unusually early. Start the Tunbridge Fair this year in the twelve oftentimes I remember running like like the later teens of dates in September and I don't know if that's just a function of the calendar or if it's more a matter of the but one thing I noticed on the way down here driving down through Chelsea in Washington that beautiful drive down route ten one ten rather was it. There's not as much foliage as I remember an in past years and and again that's just because of the earlier date. I you know I I I know what you're talking about. I remember I think that it was late. August when we had hurricane Irene in twenty twenty eleven and it it wiped out the fair if you remember that they have there's one of a few years they've canceled and that was in late August so it it kind of runs the gamut from when I can tell and of course it's been in October and what you see a lot of fall color you know taking place but yeah I think the fall color is going to be a little bit late to spur start this year and with the fair now you know it's looking a little more summary out. There's even ferns around my place still so it's not a crazy well. Roger I I think that I appreciate your forecast. It sounds like it isn't improving picture. You got here and I. I believe we're GONNA it'd be talking with a Alan how the president very shortly but I'm GonNa let you go and wish you a good and improving day actually and right back at you and you should. I don't already thanks Roger. Hey Alan how is expected to be our next gas will be with US shortly. He's the board chair here at the Tunbridge Fair and meanwhile I've got my good friend Dylan Delos year he is with wd and he's helping us out down here and Dylan. what are you what not noticing any changes here at the fair or is it pretty much the old traditional longtime situation here well. I was here last year and had actually looks more or less. The same minus SALES COTTON CHRISTINE HAWK LIST MINUS BILL Scott and Christy and of course they were candidates for governor last year full. Scott ended up winning a second term in that election of two thousand and eighteen eighteen but we had a really nice morning. I remember that day with the two gubernatorial candidate here on Thursday kicks off the Tunbridge Fair and of course. It's an odd numbered liberty year this year here so we don't have an election coming up no gubernatorial or lieutenant gubernatorial debates. I remember last year we had a we had a a strong debate between David soccer men and Don Turner on Friday of the Tunbridge Fair. The lieutenant gubernatorial debates here. That's a great tradition on W. UDV where we're able to invite the candidates down to retrieve the together in the Gazebo here and it just really feels like you know Lincoln Douglas Redo or something thing. It's a it's a great. It's a great addition to have these candidates get up here in the old fashioned. Gazebo not too far from the livestock barns here on the fairgrounds and and and then had it over over what what issues are facing Vermont. It's really a a a terrific opportunity for listeners and for we drew a nice crowd last year. I remember the benches out here. Were full benches aren't very full right now in part because we've had a little bit of sprinkles this morning but we Roger Roger was just the Roger Goodell was just saying that. WD meteorologist these sprinkles were expecting a little bit clearing up in the very near future and if you're coming down to the fair this after noon or evening sounds like it's going to be nice weather all the way the rest of the weekend actually and it'll be good good times at the temperature not too hot. I mean some years I've come to Tunbridge fair and I remember sitting here in the morning wearing a flannel shirt and by about ten o'clock it's tight around my waist and by about noon. I'm feeling like it gets midsummer again so it's it's. It's an interesting time of year. In terms of the the way the weather can change as the day goes on for sure the the Tunbridge Fair here has been feature in Tunbridge since the nineteenth century it is and it still has some of that field in fact one of the things I love about the Tunbridge Fair. is they have a huge a history expo here in fact. There is a a separate event. That's devoted to Vermont history believe it happens every year in about June that uses these fairgrounds here because they have these facilities that are set up for instance a little building. That's devoted to being looking like a a nineteenth century school Rome with the hard benches and not not too much in the way of computer technology or anything like that and it and Dylan have you have you made up to the to the schoolroom yet not this year now a and we were able to have a look last year. I don't remember the score I remember all the old machinery the old firm entering troll presses and things like that. It's really hey fascinating yeah really really quite fascinating and what's what's what's amazing about the old tools I think is that you see just in their very design nine and the uses they put to just amazing amazing Yankee Ingenuity at work. I mean there's a lot of tools there frankly that I don't recognize now but they were important on the farm back in the century and a half two centuries ago and a lot of them were invented here right here in Vermont and made right here in Vermont and these historic tools are really something something to see me. so there's there's really is something for everybody here at Tunbridge Fair. You you got the rides for the kids kids and you've got if you. WanNa come down here and just have some very indulgent. Shall we say we we've got last year. I was here I tried had my first Fried Oreo. Yeah that was a life changing experience. You had one of those two then yeah. Let's say I think it was also last Friday. OREO NOT GONNA it wasn't absolutely spectacularly delicious but you know and not the healthiest thing I've ever eaten at the rest of my calories for the remainder of the year for the the remainder of the century for me no actually they I mean it was it was delicious. you know they've got. They've got the fried dough year. One of our face when I come down here with my wife is she loves to go and I must have been tag along without too much complaint to the to the Maple building where you can get these really nice soft warm donuts. They're absolutely dripping with a maple cream and they are they are and if it's not not something anybody got out of a can or something this is ferrall on the farm and and the maple cream donuts here are also spectacular. You can get some more more real nutrition also you've got a lot of sandwiches and barbecue and I think there are some salads available on the fairgrounds. If you look hard enough and so it's it's it's all a good thing so and i WanNa introduce the guest Rob House joining us. He is a superintendent of cattle here at the Tunbridge fair and as he's involved in promoting the fair and lifelong Tunbridge resident who I suspect it's been too many tunbridge fares during his years and Mister Mr how thanks so much for joining us this morning. That's very fine. I'm happy to be here and so one of the things I wanted to check in with you about the amazing range of foods available here I was. Let's discussing a couple of highlights and mentioning that I had my first fried. Oreo about a year ago here. It's a fair and tell us what else is going on. Among among the food vendors these days nationwide you could probably get at other fairs to get most any kind of fried food but I I think at Tunbridge try to they do a very good job of selecting concessions that maybe a little healthier and and their local to a lot of restaurants are caterers or are participating this year as the care for example. We have a food truck. That's a sustainable food. where the where you can get squash soup or corn chowder chicken. Chili some good hearty Cardi there's a new dipper this year Hito hut where they have readable and UH regular fritos corners still stone pub is here this year and they're serving loaded tater tots. Now I guess someone would have to go and figure what a loaded tater Tony sure. It's delicious stuff good. Jalapeno peppers in there and you really good hundred cornerstone of course is is based in Barry. I know they're right on the I mean corny events right yeah locally the sweep goat dairy from Chelsea where they make go to Lotto L. selling their product here on the fairgrounds sweet goat. That sounds like almost like an oxymoron. I guess that's true yeah. there's also soaps donuts and you can get tighter donuts we have a new brick oven pizzas and where the serve pieces in calcium. Um and they're a new this year and then returning we do have the black Krim restaurant from Randolph. They're not big was named chef of the year this this year and she's been she's been here for like three or four years and this year she's serving is different kinds of dumplings and folks lighters so all good stuff yeah there's also a young girl who does cupcakes cookies from Randolph Center. She's been telling her product at a local copy shops and she's selling cupcakes and cookies here. You're making me hungry. Poor excited by help if anybody's hungry and in the central area they come on down and in and get their fill this this more yeah. There's a there's a lot of a lot of great food offerings at Tunbridge Fair also some wonderful rides. I know I know the young folks true particularly fond of getting on those rides in having a great time anything new on the right front. I think is typical for the last two years. The concession people offer a deal on Thursday afternoon and I believe the time is three o'clock until ten o'clock. You can ride all the rides you for near fifteen dollars. Wow Wow so. It's a pretty good deal. It's the day to come to the fair. Thursday is again day and that's just getting on the ground up getting started this morning. We had multiple number of school. Buses will be arriving. I've seen quite a number of the younger set wandering the fairgrounds already you'll start you can pick up here and I'm sure the buses are backed stopdown on one ten on the fairgrounds right now. Yeah that's a that's a one of the mentioned that actually the the the logistics of getting folks here because I know Norwich. University is the big player in that right they could. That's that's an excellent job. They we contract with them to have the parking and getting getting vehicles off the road as quickly as possible so there's not a big traffic jam especially on Saturday that is always the big issue and it looks like the weather's. GonNa Cooperate Pretty well. It's a little drizzly right now but forecast isn't too bad for the fair yeah we had Roger on Roger Hill from the WD Urology Center on just a few minutes ago and he was saying that within in a couple of hours. Actually we should see clearing skies and an end to the drizzle. We've had some of this morning and and then smooth sailing. I guess from here to there. I think I think ah well and other forecast that I've been hearing not just from Roger. Hill that there's possibility maybe some showers on Saturday but the time when it's critical is in the morning when when people are making the decision about whether or not they're gonNA come to the fair and as long as it's nice and Sunny at eight o'clock or nine o'clock in the morning then we're all set yeah yeah it is funny. How a lot of times these activities are determined by the I look out the window and the ski area say the same thing is that they they have their their biggest weekends. When there's some snow down in Boston and New York and folks down there won't snow. Let's head north and go skiing so I'm sure the same kind of phenomenon whether it's skiing okay or whether it's any other tourism or or seasonal activity when there's a forecast for good weather on the weekend and I'm always leery. I'm a dairy farmer and so you know I think sometimes they forecast good weather when there might be a risk of yeah so we have to be careful about that. You're a dairy farmer right down the road here right. That's right. I love just a half mile down in fact. I think somebody's being you you devote some of your fields this time of year to the parking for an affair. We have to get our putting off before the park starts on in general field Friday afternoon and Saturday sometime Sunday Sunday. I is that a was at an unusually early cutting were you because this seems like an unusually early start to the fair. whether it's whether it's early or late we had to get that off so I actually we held office this year or one of those fields third cutting sometimes as you try to get full custody of the year but those fields. It's not possible because yeah yeah it gets pretty well trashed by the end of the fair. I would think that they'll all that car. Traffic coming on and off would be not not create for the crops so yeah. I wonder if if you have a have a sense of is is the fair a growing growing thing I was just becoming more popular holding steady or generations changing fewer people coming into the parity have any sense of that while based on tendency record the pre holds pretty steady and that's that's good news for us. What is the typical attendance at the fair. I think we are registered register at about forty forty. Five thousand people wow through yeah four days. That's going to have a big impact on the town in general you know temperatures very small all town pretty quiet. I'm sure the rest of the year and then all of a sudden these four days in September it becomes the capital of everything the world's fair so four days devoted they voted to everybody else's and then what does that feel like to a townsfolk like you well. It's it's so so ingrained in our lives. At this point we don't think too much as far as having a negative impact. Sometimes we get a little frustrated it all and run away for the four days but but yeah anybody who planned vacation every year we do a couple named get done actually thought this morning there was living there canoe on top of their truck and they were heading and they had their luggage and they were heading out of town. Yeah that's funny. Well you know some folks. Folks are not really that into it. I'm sure and so why not get out of town for still nice other parts of New England or even elsewhere in the country or whatever this time of year so if you want the peace and quiet this is probably not the four days to get the peace and quiet in in Tunbridge but it certainly is a it. It's gotTa be a fun event and it. Kinda puts your town on the map open and even I guess this. This fair is the subject maybe of a piece of music famous composer for the Mid Twentieth Century and Walter Piston wrote a piece called Tunbridge fair and i. It's actually there's a youtube video. The folks can listen to check out the president's own. US The marine band stationed at the White House. There is played this piece. It's it's a difficult piece I was I was in high school band and and made made our district banned and we we tried we we played the Tunbridge fair and boy that was that was tough chart as Mesa March no it well. It's you know it's not really a march. It's hard to describe. I don't remember exactly there was a sort of a subtitle that piston used. I don't remember exactly what that was but if you just if you just go to youtube and look up Tunbridge Fair Walter Piston it it you know it's worth checking out. It's a it's not I wouldn't call it easy listening. It's sort of a it's hard to play. Am It's and it's you don't you don't walk away whistling. Let's put it that way but it still very very interesting and it struck me. It strikes me as it just kinda cool at a composer like that would have thought the name of name a piece for this this annual event here in something that inspired him coming to the fair yeah. I bet you so oh and of course the spurs one going on for a long time. When did it was. Do you remember its first year when roughly when it's on my memory doesn't go back that far. We're celebrating our two hundred forty eight hundred forty year. There were a couple of years that there there was not a fair I think during the Second World War and then the year of tropical storm Irene. I guess that didn't happen anyhow. Actually it did happen but naturally there was another year in nineteen ninety nine or two thousand and I can't remember we. We had awful rains. actually rained every day and river nearly flooded and so being to kind of the cattle barns it it was it was quite scary for a lot of exhibitors. I know that because they moved their catalog burns and brought the shoring and them there until the river subsided in that year the bridge that goes across the parking lot the river that they've taken out while there were a lot of challenges yeah yeah I bet it and and actually this is one of the charming things about this spot for a fairground says you do have the stream running right down along the sort of the bottom part of the main lean mean fairgrounds here. What is that that's one of the branches of the white which one is the first French river so so our location for fair as always been very challenging but yet it's also one of our unique attributes to the fair yeah is having the setting in the narrow valley of Tunbridge is absolutely slid gorgeous and and so anybody who comes here can certainly enjoy the pre season and and the free foliage and and and then in general as being here and it's beautiful setting so our challenge is always that we will not be expanding at all and and we just kind of make do with what we've got me. Do what you got. That's the that's the Vermont Way and and and and what you do with it is really it is. It is a wonderful event here. I wanted to ask you about your your role as superintendent of the Cattle Martin and I'm glad you did because I i. I know that that the the livestock AH ASPECT OF THE FEAR is maybe all began actually it all began with horse racing and so are the only fair state. I think that has had horse racing every year. These okay racing my grandfather actually was a her straighter as well as dairy farmer and that is a big story about the they came to the fair with one horse and one hundred dollars and traded that for five times or something like that and went home. How would the worst that's a good start isn't quite right and and they're probably terrific details fill in their these trading one horse with under the other words for another and then I finally working way back to his own right well. My grandfather was superintendent of cattle as well and my dad is super the head of cattle and wow so the numbers are really good this year we have full burns and we're expecting to have a good show but this year we're honoring to air shy breeders. I Kelly Burke who passed away this summer the young age of fifty thirty or so and so that was something we needed to do with a very rob how. I hope you can stay with us a little bit after the break if you don't mind because I've got a few more questions as you gotta go to some. CBS News couple of sponsors right now eh making sweet September the crisp clear days harbinger of October's foliage to come upstairs at the Warren store are colorful. Clothing collection is as alluring and enticing these lovely lingering autumn days. There's something for everyone active wear from cool Royal Robbins Token Code Fashion Forward Tony Developed Zealous and company Save the duck from warm cozy and ethically sourced as always ARP toy department to lights. There's jewelry accessories and gifts. Galore all upstairs at the Funky Anki Friendly Almost world-famous Warren Store in Warren village. It's the Dave Ramsey show. WD FM and am we are back in the second half hour. Today's program it's Thursday morning. September the Twelfth Two Thousand Nineteen and I am glad to say we are broadcasting live from the Tunbridge Fair Erin Tunbridge Vermont. That's the Tunbridge world's fair by the way and my my guest staying with us for a little bit longer. I do believe rob. How's the cattle supervisor here at the fair and and rob so you get to decide which the which of the animals which are the cows get against the Blue Ribbon Cetera what are some the what are some of the factors that go into making it has to be a tough decision. Sometimes well first of all not the person that makes those decisions. I just organized organized the show okay make sure the animals are all categorized. They have a place to be stalled in the Barnes and hire a judge and the judge takes care of that decision sounds like you have plenty to do without having to go to judging well. I certainly don't need to do that. Yeah I and matter of fact my daughter will be showing so I wouldn't WanNa be that'd be tough to get in the middle of that one so and Moser judge just like anything judged on his correctness in cattle you look for tall and strong animals want animals that have strong feet and legs because they need to walk back and forth feed lot want the animals that have beautifully shaped others so that they're easy to milk and and and that they stay healthy and and and there's all sorts of things that relate eight to their good health and and wellbeing so I was wondering for instance when I'm in the in the barn where they feature a lot of the hens and chickens and all and and I and I see several of the Hens it looked pretty similar to a lay person like me and I go. How do they pick the winner here this white in black and white speckled head and looks a lot like its neighbor well? I guess you'd have to be careful when they look alike but it's hard to determine for meaning. What chicken looks better than another I. I'm not sure how they judge ticket and I'm sure there are certain criteria just like there are for cattle and maybe size correctness according to the breed characteristics yeah and good healthy looking bird also maybe lots of others and that are yeah is there. Is there a good staff and supply of judges or is that something you have to you have to scratch around for to find or how's that work well. It's interesting in in the dairy. Industry is there's quite a list of of people that you can hire to be judges button for me and hiring and for the temperature there is the challenge because we're competing with a major show going on in. Springfield mass Biggie and so some of the better judges in New England are down there judging right right now so I see but there's always somebody that we can find and to throw him a little bit and ask them to come to bear. We don't have such a big are such a high caliber her list of livestock and but it's a lot of local funds for the local producers and small farmers that are are ahead then coming to the fair for the last. I just saw one go by here who's been here for sixty three or sixty four years so and that's Ted hoyt from Hoyt Hill farm so wow you know so. There's there's lots of reasons to be happy about the fact that people keep coming back year after year here here yeah. It seems like a lot of families do that. I mean I I know you are family. We're not not a farm family but I probably so you've been to ten or fifteen years my time here in the in the central Romana area and I'm sure if you go down to the dairy barns you could ask every exhibitor there how many years they've been to the fair and probably most of them would say well over twenty years so I and that's and I mentioned before the break that we're honoring Kelly Burke this year and and as well as Kelly where honoring George Magnus Spalding and they all died during the same week George Magnus were in their nineties but Kelly Burke was very the young dairy farmer from Berlin Vermont many people would recognize his mother's name and Burke who had been the queen of Agriculture in Vermont for or a number of years especially Queen Dairy so yeah yeah and did a lot for milk promotion and that's a shame we we surely regret Kelly's passing and the but that's not to say that they don't have animals here Kelly's wife Renee she's here with with her nieces and they owned jointly some of the animals and they are no longer on their farm but they they still have the breeding being stock and they are here representing Kelly this year keeping going as a generation. That's coming up. That's a that's a very important feature of especially I I would think of fair are like this which has such a great historic flavor here. I mean I'm sure that you know many of the folks here as you say. Your father was the cattle supervisor. Your grandfather grandfather was a cattle supervisor. It is a multi generational effort that goes on here in town. Did what really terrific thing I I wondered also you mentioned that you're we're involved in in promoting the fair and I was just curious. does a fair trial mainly folks from within Vermont or is it a multi state thing. What's what kind of any stats on that well. If you go through the parking lot on Saturday I would say probably probably two thirds of the cars it'd be out of staters wow and and it's what's interesting is that we don't do any advertising outside the state of Vermont Yeah but today was social media that the word spreads easily and a lot the people return year after year just because as much as it is a tradition for people that participate with a fair. It's also tradition for people that like to come to the. Oh sure yeah yeah yeah and that's a that's a category I my family. I my family are in for sure you know we live over in my it's a beautiful drive down route one ten from Barry to get here and that's part of the part of the fun and and and then and then we come into the fair and there's always something to keep all of us happy so that's that's a big part of the fun here so and you asked about promotion for the fair we have a committee that does some promotional work and most of its create items that people can take home whether in souvenirs or gift ideas and so we have hats and we have t shirts pins and we have mugs and we have an postcards and but our main work stems around the poster her first timers fair and every year we'd contract either with a artist or find someone that's willing to create an image that we can put on a poster and end those posters are becoming collector's items. Wow it's something that I started in nineteen ninety three when I was on the board of directors and and then for the a number of years that I was secretary for the fair I used those posters they're the key to our website and and I pictures on our brochures and and and we've used those those images on our T. shirt so you know it's many ways that we can use those those images be one of the things that happens in a fair like this is a lot of entertainment shows and music and a I different to tell them. Tell me about what something on the schedule here actually. I'm probably not the person to ask okay. you have plenty on your plate as far as managing the cattle paddle in the and I used to be on the entertainment committee but I I haven't done that for many years now and we'll just in general. I mean my my recollection. Is that do. We still have a demolition derby. Everything goes on here. no we don't okay what about it used to be on. Sunday afternoons and now we have a motorized program on Sunday afternoon. That's the tractor for Anti tractable Article Okay and that draws. I really good crowd anyway. Yeah the antique tractor pull is that is that is a a lot of fun as well it typically weekly what big blocks of concrete or something right. Is that what they're That's right. I just like in any of the polling event yeah. SOX's fears or ponies They're pulling a big box of hungry. I remember I remember spending a good hour more just watching the polls last year when we were here and that's always a lot of fun as well. I think that it was on Saturday afternoon right. So in general programming there's an entertainment tent and you can see different small acts for free there that's the other key thing about our entertainment aim and everything is free and once you pay your admission price on the fairgrounds you're good to go and the only thing you're going to spend probably is food items a- and the souvenir the take home craft beer or to me that would be fun yeah. Thursday night Thursday and Friday afternoons the beer cans is going to be or maybe it's Friday and Saturday night. The beer tenders go to be operating with our local breweries upper past three and proper bank bluer. Maybe I'm not. I haven't been told exactly who's running that right. coverage is known for having the most number of breweries in per capita of any town they diplomat so that has been a key another key the point of pride for the town of Tunbridge so wow that's I I might have to sample one of the very local brews here. I didn't know that was part of the opportunity but you never ever know. There's always things you'll find something new. Every time you come into this fair it's like watching your favorite movie for the third and fourth and and hearing a piece of dialogue. Oh you hadn't picked up previously the so it's it's a it's a it is an excellent excellent event here four days starting today on Thursday t twelve through Sunday the fifteenth and well worth the trip down or up one ten if you're coming through the royal thin and software scenario here into Tunbridge and you can check out the fair and I met I did mention the entertainment and somebody just handed me a program Graham so that I could give you some deep okay. Let's go so on main stage on Friday night. There's the ultimate urban band which is Keith keep urban tribute wow and and then that's going to be followed by a Vegas McGraw band which is a Tim McGraw Tribute Okay Grandma on Saturday on the stage of course we start with our cavalcade of livestock which we do and have done every year that I've been didn't live but that's followed at seven o'clock by the Leonard Skinner. Show called skinner excellent and and then nine on o'clock there's an aerosmith band. It's not aerosmith obviously but it's called draw the line I see those are our our big programs that are happening off the you don't have to buy separate tickets any come and have a good time and and they always have dancing on the tracks trek Saturday night so it can be a wild time for a lot of people and so we're sitting here in the Gazebo right next to the floral hall and and every day there's every afternoon evening. There is live entertainment here. Lots of good things happening that is that super well rob how I wanNA thank you so much for joining me this morning and giving us a little tour and some the history of the Tunbridge fair and the goings on here. It's really terrific to have a winning. It's nice to hear from somebody who has so much knowledge and information about the affair so thanks again for coming by are already and it was lucky enough to have one of the food vendors with us this morning. He's also a state representative. I've got to know him. Working in my pewter was covering the State House for the Associated Press for longtime and and Pat Brennan has been a member of the house. I believe now pushing eighteen years something like that that's right and and and pat joins me this morning. I think mainly they talk about other life which is involves blooming onions so pat good morning. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having and so tell me about your this is a very interesting combination of of work lives here spending. January through may toiling away under the Golden Dome and then coming out on the fare circuit this time of year. It is a definite It's definitely sharing to life. It's yeah I'm probably most likely the only state rep with a little bit of Carney Ernie blood in them a little bit carney flood okay and and so you're I I haven't actually one of these days. I'm GONNA try a blooming onion. I haven't done it yet but I I may have to do that and I understand. They're quite delicious typically. Serve them with A little bit of sauce is that right. Yeah comes with a homemade horseradish type type sauce. We have contain sour cream mayonnaise horseradish. We make that when ourselves and then you have ranch or catch up for an option. If you prefer that prefer that yeah got okay and the the blooming onion is the most people regard that as a meal or is that sort of a side dish or how they are they well if you're going to sit down and eat blooming onion by yourself. It's a meal It's a it's a they're. They're pretty big yeah. You have their fillings so it's a two person. It's a two person entree brainless. Put it that way I say okay and now you you have had a few different walks of life and and I'm just curious to know oh how you got into the the fair business and the blooming onion business yeah interesting story Dave I I my former life I operated a convenience sore for twenty years and one day my father walked and he said guess what I just did and he said I bought a booth at the fair Champlain Valley Fair little shack and I said well Jeez. Thanks for asking me I might have been interested in that and he said well I got a partner already and turns out two weeks later. The partner folded and it didn't happen there. I was and then we were. GonNa do hot dogs hamburgers and a guy a friend of mine that owned marble island resort at the The Times said. Hey I gotta machine back. I WANNA show Ya little blooming onion machine and you're welcome to borrow it if you want to do that so. He showed me how to make them. I Boorda's machine for two weeks and it just went took off from there wow'd eventually I looked at that and they said Hey. We should take the show on the road. Now is the blooming blooming onion. Is that a like a national thing that you're franchised or how does that work. No it's not a franchise there around. I mean the outback some a few few restaurants do them but no. I'm I have a trade name registration Burma blooming onion concessions and that's as far as I go so there's there's no okay so you said so. Nobody else could set down the fairgrounds with another thing selling blooming onions then they could really they could technically in grandma. They'd have to call it something else. I could call it. you know an awesome blossom were sunburst onion or which has happened but yes yes the venues. I do on on the only onion. They're the only onion and Do you like news yourself. Are you big onion fan or is i. I don't mind in them. I don't eat them all day. I'm smelling the aroma all day long and I think that's enough for me. Yeah which is that's good. That's a good thing yeah yeah and and it it's gotta be it's gotTa be fun because I'm sure you also are able to just see a wide variety of people coming by buying your product. CETERA yeah you do. It's interesting people watching and and getting to know people fair goers is one of the traits of the job one of the perks yeah that that must be and so you did the Champlain Valley Fair this year. How many pairs do you typically do. I do six now while yeah I do. give me the circuit I do. start off with the maple. Oh Festival in Saint Albans that's in June right is that is in late April late April ads early early and then I do a fair in Plattsburgh Clinton County Fair. That's in July then off to Addison County and the Champlain Valley Yep no. I'm here you know finish up with a fair in Durham Connecticut Star two weeks. Okay wow so and and you have to camp out when you go to these places or do you have favorite yeah Komo we camp out and I have a thirty seven foot travel trailer with a bunk room in the back for the help and stuff and pretty spacious nice how many how many hours do you have on this tour well today. I'll have three with me and tomorrow. We'll have eight wow we it's a it's a labor labor intensive product that we put out and yeah on Friday night and Saturday here. You'll need eight people working. Wow that's that is quite a quite a crew crew and and your are are you able to to meet the demand. I mean when I picture these lines lineup but some of the concessions at the fair here on Saturday. Eh gets kind of out of control almost sometimes how did that go for you well we. We put out pretty quick but we'll have the line. We'll have a line of about twenty people in it and it's I usually at the most a ten minute. Wait yeah so that's not too bad. it's just you know it's a there's to to my own or we have a pretty good the product and we had there's high demand for it's fair. It's fair food for sure Yup. Not something you eat every day right right so we'll be busy and we'll be we'll have a line across the track on occasion on Saturday night for sure and the so the folks who were coming here. Are they typically when they step up to your to your booth. They typically already had a sausage sandwich or something else where they. I believe if you have yeah yeah I mean the the sausage and the the fried dough or all you know standard fare foods yep although things have evolved. There's a lot of other NEAT fair food. Now you know you've got a Santos pretzels right next to me. Here does a great job with those. You've got Mexican food now that you never had before Yeah English barbecue style that's so it's quite a diverse group of foods sure and now every year and maybe late April or so there's a little picnic on on the State House steps where legislators come out and and the State House crew sets up with some hot dogs and hamburgers. I think and that sort of thing are we gonna see Bloomberg News there and anytime in the near future. I don't think so I think they talked about it. I get really it all the time. I thought that when are you going to bring your trailer here and put it on the State House lawn but no I don't think any time soon. It's wrong time of year for that. Well you gotta go to the tabloids fair or one of the other stops of Pat Brennan's blooming onion tour and with the coverage prairie would because clear exact clearly. It's it it. It's you've got to be a good booming and blooming onion fair for patents year had Brennan. Thanks so much for joining the Dave grimshaw. WD FM and am escorting thanks for having me. Dave preaches already. We're going to go to a top of the hour. CBS News reports from our sponsors then I want to our daily visits with talk usually get back before we resume our conversations APP affair sweet September the crisp clear days a harbinger of October full each to come upstairs at the warrants store are colorful. Clothing collection is as luring and enticing as these lovely lingering autumn days. There's something for everyone. Active wear from Cool Royal Robbins token code fashion in forward. Tony Develops and comfy saved the duck from warm cozy and ethically sourced as always our toy department to lights. There's jewelry accessories and gifts. Galore all upstairs at the Funky Friendly Almost world-famous Warren Store in Warren Village. It's the Dave Ramsey show. WD Ev and we're back continuing into our second hour that as program on this Thursday September twelfth the rock casting live from the Tunbridge fair and Tunbridge wrought wanted a great old agricultural country fair here and W becomes down here every year of course the even numbered years we usually have political debates that happened here your last year Governor Phillip Scott and his challenger Christine Hall Quest. We're here at the fair and we were really excited to be able to host that debate and as of today as of right now we're going to our usual talk media news segments which comes just after the mid show. CBS News and I believe Bob Nays. He's on the phone with US Good Morning Bob Morning. You're probably eating some fun. Okay car yeah I'm actually having a a muffin right right now. It's quite delicious okay. They have good baked goods on the fairground. Actually just about any kind of food you can imagine is available somewhere here at the fair so it's a it's a lot of fun and and it's such a classic. Little Beautiful Little Veron Spotty or knit little narrow valley here along the first branch of the White River which which basically runs right along the edge of the fairgrounds so it's in Nestle between some gorgeous hills here. They're not quite turn to to orange and red yet but still I'm pretty green but they are within a couple of weeks. This whole value will be ablaze as it always is in the fall. Hey Bob the democratic debate is happening. Intimate what's going on well. I never thought I would say to you day that it's narrowed down to ten but it's narrowed down to ten and and of course you know within that there's candidates there's such as Castro and Beta work etc but let's face it a lot of people we'RE GONNA focus on Warren Sanders and Biden because it's the first time all three have been together on one setting so I think it's interesting that even if you know I ah I mean it's going to be watched but even if it's because of football or something else it's not watched as heavily. It's not going to be significant because the what's going to happen in the debates going to be significant. You know to voter so it's GonNa be a very interesting debate is either. GonNa come out mild or they're. GonNa come out swinging Joe Biden because because he is ahead in the polls still particular issues that they're going to be working to sort out tonight you know. I would assume you missed some point in time. being a democratic debate candidates have to start talking about union somehow and fill that in of course they're going to be at the mercy. Have you know the questions that are thrown out there. Obviously there's going to be questions about. Probably you know some foreign policy questions but you know candidates can work in whatever they want when they want and I would assume some working issues affecting working people I mean they've pretty well hit a lot of of healthcare in the past and you know Medicare for all and they've hit immigration so I have to assume they also at some point in time have to get pretty domestic on other issues beyond that in ended locality HOUSTON. I'm sure that there is going to be some discussion about immigration. Perhaps well sure because when we're in that neck of the woods I mean immigration affects everyone in the country but when you're in that neck of the woods you know you can bet the immigration will come up a topic especially you know because it's Texas yeah and the other thing that one would think that Texas would be have a high on its mind is the mass shootings and any control measures out there and that sort. I think that'll be out there. You can bet well that that that is a It's GONNA be well worth watching especially for those who are trying to stay on top of the political seen around the country these during this early still early stages of the twenty twenty presidential campaign the election is still more than a year away and so this plenty of the conflict is for sure right but I also wanted to ask you about president trump's uh-huh decision to delay tariff increases on Chinese goods what's happening there well the the president in has really done what no other president has done which is to really just continue face to face with Chinese on the battles and I mean nobody else has ever done this and to Chinese blink twice and I call this today a wink by the president. He's responding okay. We'll hold off some terrorist because the Chinese responded also I that they were going to do some tariff relief so the president wants a deal and again. He's been hard line and it looks like going into the negotiations. You know we're pretty even Keel. I saw Chinese Have you know outdone us. I mean and you know how the president is. They hit him once. He slaps him back twice so I think there's a potential here for a deal probably couldn't be cemented until until I would assume around March something like that if they get one. That's the workout data. They have to agree in in premise you know in concept it and then we're out the details. What's going to happen with staff. That is It sounds like there's still potential here for actually some real some real progress to be made. Is that your estimation all. I think absolutely yes it. It can't be and again you know this is the first time the Chinese had to dealt with the president that won't stop swinging and they just never dealt with before and at first they we're just you know obstinate and dismissive but I think now they're coming around to the fact that you know. Do they really want to go through this. Then trump re wins the election. He comes back at them so. I think that they're going to lay down on this. Don't get me wrong but I think that we're going to get far that we have in the ask with them. Yeah Hey this other story that broke yesterday involving the Supreme Court decision allowing the trump administration debare most Central American migrants from seeking asylum in the United States while the legal fight plays out in the courts that sort sort of a and I remember what you call it some legal term for that where where a court will rule that a certain set of circumstances can continue or apply while Al Resolve the overall issue and take the long a little more time with it. it is is that is that a is that a win that a temporary win. Is that a halfway wind from thinking well. It's a temporary win for the president because you're right it it it by for Kate's. You know a couple of states can do you know basically are not under it but the ninth circuit you got. Texas and I think New Mexico would be under it and as a result it will apply to them so that means that people people coming across the border into those two states they need to apply to a third country if they came through third countries what I mean is if you come from what Amalia into Mexico into America you need to apply in Mexico if you come from Mexico straight to America that's a different story but if you come from Guatemala Honduras into Mexico that into America you need to apply in Mexico under this the court reaffirmed what trump wants to do which is third party application another another country entree yeah. That's that is a is something also worth watching you and so many of these things. Are you get different interests much pretty much daily basis in you know things can well you know day. This is what you have when the Congress fails to act on comprehensive immigration reform they every single President Redo reform you know immigration reform or with the stroke of a pen in the White House he Vanity Fair is reporting. Mike Pompeo might be not too long for his job his following of course John Bolton's firing earlier this week what do you do. You know anything about this. Well I predicted Bolton's firing on June the tenth on my facebook page and I knew that one was coming before the end of the summer but with Pompeii would it'd be harder. Predict pompeo gets along better with the President Pompeo is more of the kind of adult figure in the White House seasoned former congressman so I I think it's GonNa be harder for Pompeo to go. I'm not saying he won't eventually. I knew Bolton was going to be short-term. Course I knew John Bolton. I knew he would go in and run around enact like you know sort of a political maniac but POMPEII was more season two different so I don't think he's on the right now to leave. Wow okay well. I think it is interesting to watch how all the players around president trump are sorta jockey for position and and pretty sharp elbows down there as well. Yes Yup that is he wanted a dog. You WanNa get a dog and be the only thing isn't it and read tonight. Hey Bob Ney. I think we're I think we're good for today. I really appreciate Anglo joining US income on and on and come on up to the fair for tonker fried door something thank you so among all ready. We'll talk soon. I want to introduce my next guest a tracy. email is the head of registration for the fair so if you have a massive pumpkin you think deserves display at Tunbridge Fair she is the person to check in with and and fill out your registration and get get yourself situated here at the fair tracey. Welcome to the program this morning and wanted to check in with you you about some of the some of that process here If if folks how does somebody let's say you have a garden and you grow up particularly flying looking squash all right and you think that I don't take my squash coverage fair. What do you do so you would register Mr with the registration office and you can get premium books either by calling the fair office in mid-july and I have a book mail to you. We do have the classes listed online in the registration forms online you provide your name address and what it is he wanted and her use yes some form into us. Be Enter the information into the computer and then you bring your item between nine and six on the Wednesday before the fair breath I see okay and and so in the case of of Beck's No. Let's say you growing in your garden. You may not be sure in July. That's it's GonNa be a really fine specimen as you are as as harvest time approaches so how does that calendar issue so if you're for us in the registration straight office if you register everything thinks you might. WanNa bring and then when you go to harvest your vegetables. It's much easier for us to delete them him. If something didn't didn't turn out very well I got it. The bugs dotted or the deer ate it or or something happened. it's very easy for us to delete we do prefer people reverted preregister the rituals are anything actually and and they do take entries on Wednesday new entries however if they you know if we have a lot of people that preregister I just started on Wednesday. It's not a guarantee that you would be able to get your vegetables then. I see okay so by Wednesday. You mean yesterday really yes yesterday. Wow that is a bit last minute but then I guess there's a chance for folks to get in if they if they really need to or have have something that they suddenly see as I've been there must be some crops and vegetables whatever that they really don't look like much at all by July but by September they they they really start take shape. I'm not sure I don't have any good examples there but your thought is free register anyway in hopes. You'll have a good correct apple yeah and actually the Some of my neighbors called me at my house on Sunday of this last weekend and they're like Oh. I didn't register my my squash and I said that's okay. I can do that for you and it turned out that they planted a much squash and they they've they've turned out better than what the other squads were that they had entered intern so they actually brought different items which we can switch out very easily well that was that was my next question. Actually if if you have are are you when you're registering in July. Are you registering that individual green pepper or whatever yes so there are something like a hundred hundred and twenty two classes for vegetables crafts. There's they're fourteen different sections of of craft categories and each section has anywhere between five and ten classes in that section so it it. It's a variety and and now you have. You have a couple of really stunning samples this year. I think you had some notes. When you were sitting down here. Join me on the air and was something what isn't as Pumpkin squash cross yeah so one of our categories is the pumpkins squash froth category and this year we had one of them weigh in at one thousand fifty pounds and that was grown by a gentleman and Sharon and so in that set a fair record for the Pumpkin Squash Cross Laugh Open Squash Ashcroft's. I didn't even know there was thing today the truth before I started working here. I did not know that either yeah and you never know what's going to come up next in terms of breeding and that sort of thing I I said I've heard that if you cross a cantaloupe with lassie you might end up with a melancholy baby maybe so bad joke there referring so the but but I was gonna I was Gonna ask you also about some of the animals that come here for instance the the the foul I I know there are a lot of a lot of chickens and roosters and hens and seeing et Cetera so let's talk about those for a little bit a little bit How many inches do you typically get in in that category and vocal fair year we would have roughly three hundred chickens and Bantams. WHOA and then we also have ducks geese Turkey Turkey's this year we have a display peacocks and we have a nice display of geese and poultry barns. Are Poultry numbers. as far as the chickens is in the bathrooms. Were down this year. We had a hundred thirty birds this year as opposed to free hundred one of an exhibitor Senator from Tom. Ridge Branislav destined to fill the space well. That's nice. That's that's that's It's good to have that kind of flexibility. You know one thing sort of fades the other other things steps up that you gotTa have that be ready for for those changes year to year and I'm and I suppose that actually helps to keep the interest among visit we you know with the visitors who come here year after year. They all Gee Whiz. This is the first time I've seen peacocks here. That's that's an exciting development and that sort of AH. Yes we have a we have great display over the full time this year. Do you know anything about the judging I mean I. I'm always curious when I when I go down the row and again. I'm a total layperson. I'm I just been visit the fair because I think it's fine and but I'll see I'll see several cages in a row say black and white speckled hand and I go. How do they pick the one that gets the blue ribbon so each each department has a a judge specializes in that particular area I really don't know what periods because I just tabulate the results as they come in they do have I believe it is based on on feather pattern and coloring and and and things like that but I'm not one hundred percent I say okay and it's it strikes me that when when you are doing the registrations and these judges come into judge individual categories of animals and vegetables etc one question I have not asked yet and and it just popped into my head and I'm really curious now joining idea how large the overall staff is here at the fair I mean how many people does it take to put on the Denver Fair? I can tell you in the registration office. There are two of us that work we work basically year round I have several volunteers volunteer during the day or during the what we call the five days fair which includes Wednesday We have three volunteers as far as the overall fair. I'm not sure I know each department has a superintendent. most departments have assistant superintendent. and we have probably fifteen department. Maybe more that is that that is a really quite an amazing crew of of folks who are involved here and and and so this is this like full time employment for you then or how does that work now this is this is not my full time employment miser. I take vacation from what I refer to love as my real job okay. What is your real job. I worked at Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center in the Medical Records Department Boise Okay Yeah. That's actually probably a fairly that's gotTa be good training for being a fairgrounds registration person yeah actually it is it works good training for your other job. I don't know which in my other job I've talked to people on the phone here. I actually see the exhibitors but here's face to face so they come to the office and say in sign up and say I want to bring my I WANNA bring my my power or my my tomatoes a lot a lot of them. you know they they mail inter farms in that on Wednesday. They'll stop you know if they neither exhibitor passive after looking for their superintendent we actually do to hand out the card for the of Stutter in the Dodge Gilman building which is the Guardian Harvest area I see and I it's a it is quite a procedure and I should ask you live here in Tunbridge yourself now. I don't even Software Alvin Roth okay. I'd be curious about the impact of the fair. Obviously has a huge impact here in Tunbridge. does that spill over it does I like. I said I live itself where open and up the corner of one ten or at the junction of one ten and fourteen is the last convenience store before you get to the fair okay so and that's where you can get gas and that's where you can pick up odds and ends and I know that the owner of the store actually extends his hours during fair time these days helping later wow yeah I would think that that's gotta be a good little business boom for that store owner right there yeah and because because something like I'm GonNa have a big economic impact of it surrounding surrounding area as well as reflecting all the the the economy mainly agricultural economy exactly of the surrounding area so it's it's a good give and take and the the you have been doing this at the Tunbridge Fair for how long now twenty three years wow and do origination than any other fairs or is this enough this is that fair is it is the your main main fair worker only fair work. I guess the best way to put it so well. I think it's it sounds a very important and good work that you're doing here and it's great to have get some knowledge about what goes into making this happen. Yeah it's fun and I don't think people realize how much work it takes to actually make it happen. Yeah yeah well. I appreciate you sharing tracy email and we we are done a segment on the day. Graham show will be going to brief break for some bottom of the hour news and back with some more gas when the numbers vary here on this Thursday morning September twelve. We'll be back shortly folks sweet. September the crisp clear days a harbinger of October's foliage to come upstairs at the Warren store are colorful clothing collection election says alluring and enticing these lovely lingering autumn days. There's something for everyone active wear from cool Royal Robbins Token Code Fashion Forward Tony Development in comfy save the duck from warm cozy and ethically sourced as always our toy department to lights. There's jewelry accessories and gifts. Galore all upstairs at the funky friendly almost world-famous warned store in Warren village. It's the Dave Ramsey show on. WD FM and am and and we are back here broadcasting live from the Tunbridge Fair and Beautiful Tunbridge Vermont and one thing I'm noticing is I worked my way through this Thursday morning. Dave Graham ramp show is that many many more people showed up here now and we're here just as the top of the show or an hour and a half ago and so that's an exciting thing. The weather's also clearing happen to stop the the drizzle. We were getting earlier as Robert. Roger promised US earlier the the weather would clear off here and sure enough often seems to be doing that skies lightening up a little bit Sullivan cloudy but we expect that actually the clouds will fade away as the day wears on and the Sun will come out and it'll be beautiful afternoon at the fair here in Tunbridge and the I want to introduce my next guest and and rose terror terror Jeremy Okay. I don't know why I'm stumbling on that name name but Rose Jeremy is gonNA join us for the next few minutes and talk to us about her role at Tunbridge fair and first off. I want to tell you rose told me earlier today that she is seventeen years old and this is our eighteenth fair so you have come to your first pair when you were as they you say hey babe in this wild wings on things actually wow and so you were the ages zero when you attended. What do you remember about that fair my first fair guessing no. I've seen pictures in my mislaying and my mom's arms with a raffle taking on me out. They said I was a Raffle at the fair. You're going to be raffled off or what goes. That's how they got me. I see okay yeah. You're right. It would be quite surprised so that's that's great and you are a senior this year at Hanover High School. I believe and planning on going to college next year. Yeah I'm GonNa Either Pursue College or take a gap year old design at the end of the year. I see okay so this actually if you go away to college this could be you. Were blessed Tunbridge Fair for Awhile yes. Which is why I'm actually here today. I decided to take today and tomorrow off from school to really just soak it all up kissing case. I'm not here for a while. You GotTA store up. Sometimes it's fair for the last year exactly years. Maybe so then rose. I noticed that you are wearing an outfit here which is probably not something you wear to school every day and so tell me about the the garb you have here yeah so. I'm wearing I I have Shimizu and then big long skirt and Apron and I was wearing a mob capping Bonnet yeah. This is not my typical outfit. Ah but I work on Anti Kale and I have been there for quite a long time probably most of the fares and and what we do up there as we reenact historical times and my particular role is is in the colonial kitchen so we make food and talk to people and we reenact. That's that's that's tremendous. I Love I love those the colonial kitchen up there and actually all the historic displays up on Antique Hill which is as you come into the fairgrounds actually from the most of the parking which is is on the southern end of the fare along route one ten as you come into the pair appeal to your right is where most of these historic displays is our and and I I would. I would guess this is not bad today compared to some years but there's some years. This outfit has been pretty warm. Today is very pleasant but it has been very hot in the past. I would be much more uncomfortable and then you didn't you make this this skirt and Apron and all or no I did and I'm sure that somebody might have it's it's it's quite nice actually terrific ripping out made and and there's there's Times on the radio when I wish we pictures but we don't do pictures years no but the and roughly what era are are you representing with this. this your reenactment here I'm probably a early eighteen hundreds turn-of-the-century so when you're working in the colonial kitchen what what is the What are you actually breaking or making while this morning I just left him. We were making apple pies and I I mean some Coleslaw to which I set aside token. The vinegar we made some quiches and chicken is also roasting in the background for a few hours hours and we made pounded cheese which is basically butter and cheese mixed together on bread. Wow that's tasty and who gets to eat all this food. we make food for all actors on Antique Hills so we bring it around the log cabin the Post Office General Store they candle maker and the weaver schoolhouse and they watch it down with some Switzerland. No I don't think so I have had Switzerland thirty-four is that offer this year to not that I'm aware of but there is tighter okay senators the good old old fashioned bleak as well and and of course rituals. I you did another another beverage that dates from the early times of Vermont. Yes is one way to describe it. Then the so folks up there are getting well-treated than in terms of food anyway so definitely might be might be Kinda warm and some hard work to get all the stuff stuff cooking and baking and so on up there but at the end of the the end of the show you get to celebrate a little bit. That's great and rose You I I understand you wrote an essay for school about about your observe a memoir. Tell them tell me about that. Okay well. I started a class. It's called senior writing seminar and it focuses on descriptive and narrative writing which is not something I've done too much. Much of our first assignment was a mini memoir. about six hundred fifty were a little bit more tight and I was trying to think about something now they wanted to write about and I knew that the fair was about a week and a half away and I was feeling really Miss Stall Jake and sentimental towards the fair because I knew it might be my last year and I was like I'm gonNA write about the fair because I just love it so much and what was the main thing you said about fair. What is it about uh-huh such doing what I tried to convey was the energy of the fair and how it transformed from the deserted quiet fairgrounds to this huge production when so many people and so much noise and so many smells which I tried to convey convey in my writing wow that feeling that you do you live here in Tunbridge or talk about five minutes in some hills and is that is that so. Can you hear hear the fair from your home. maybe a little bit but we live pretty far up on a dead end road and we have lots lots of hills around us so. I think the sound absorption there so that's that's not a doesn't keep you up late at night or anything. I'm here late at night. That's true yeah you're down. You're having fun with a whole lot of other folks here who come to spare every year and what are you what are you what is the what is the biggest change in the dumbers fair. Since you first started coming here a small child I would say I think there's a lot more people as the years move on so yeah and um I don't know just I have so many relationships with you know vendors and even Carney's and things seem new one common goal uh-huh and there seems to be a great deal Kat Moody or two. I mean it's just another thing that couple of other boats who in fact rob how you probably know Robbie. He's the cattle supervisor and he said his father did that. Council surival his grandfather's cattle supervisor at the coverage fair so and you actually are at least second generation that is fair right 'cause I met your mom this morning. Amen and she she's been involved in the fair for a long time as well correct yeah. Wow so it's a family of fair you might call it so and and and mow rose. I want to thank you so much for joining me this morning. This is a fun conversation. I wish you luck 'cause US decide what you're going to do in the next the next year and the year two years following and I'm sure you will not be longtime stranger to the you'll be back at some point in the not too distant future so thanks thanks again for joining me appreciate it wanted to bring in another guest from Antique Kill and and folks. I gotta I gotTa emphasize with you. One of the real treats coming to the Tunbridge Fair. I've been coming when you're for years. I is this antique area. Where there are a whole host of historic displays we just had rose tearing me on young seventeen year old woman who has has been coming to the fair since she was a tiny tot and I guess even a small baby less than one because she said seventeen years old Mrs Eighteenth experience took me a minute to figure that math out I must tell you but the the she's she's involved in anti kill she's she dresses up in period garb and and works in the kitchen up there and it was talking about baking pies and so on earlier in our interview with her and WanNa bring in somebody else romantic hill as well terrific consorting displays and Sue Kane is the is one of the folks who oversees the the log cabin in on Antique Hill here at the time but it's career suitcase. Thanks very much for joining me this morning. Thank you and so tell us a little bit about the log cabin. How would you describe it. the log cabin. Kevin is a building that has a wide variety of displays but primarily within what we think of is just how cold and a family situation but it also has a store but a store and a bedroom and bad parlor post office you can come in by post postcard and it being mailed right there. you know you can't buy a Stanford Penny mail a letter today the anymore that'd be Kinda Nice. It'd be would be sort of like a time warp thing where you could go go. Oh by your stamps in eighteen twenty mail a letter in two thousand nineteen but no such luck from some of that and and and to your your role at the log cabin is what well I started six weeks ago getting ready for the fair with a team of three other women and and we prepare log cabin by making sure it's clean and all the dust is gone from winter and let's see spider ramps and all that's gone cleaned up for the for the fair and then during the fair I spin been wool and flax which when you spend flexes linen and I also believe I set up this fear don't have to do that every year but I had to this this year and and and that is a big thing you you are fabric person right I am I have to admit that you've been you've been around spinning and weaving for a long time and and eventually done you you you have some experience in in the museum field. I'm told yes I started in the museum field in nineteen in seventy three and worked at a living history site in Indiana at that we pretended we lived in the year her of eighteen thirty for fifteen years. I got to live in the year of eighteen thirty. I've always said it was the only year of my life I could keep repeating and improve upon uh-huh whoa. That's a that's a that's a nice feature of that kind of work. That must be really was yeah. That's that's interesting and new in this is in Indiana Jeff. Okay and what what brought you Vermont then the Marshfield school-leaving okay right yeah. That's quite an institution in and of itself. You came here to study there I gather I did. I came up for six weeks and be honest. I wasn't even sure where Vermont was when I headed out just ignore these days right okay and so you get reminded you go to the Marshall School weaving and any particular types of weaving or specialties well because I've been in the museum. AM field I'm really interested in the historic fabrics and and the equipment one of the things that this school specializes then his the timber frame looms or so most people call them the barn frame looms and I prefer that kind of a loom I have one at home and and but they have a lot more for teeth in teaching how to use those ones properly and it's it's it's a wonderful wonderful resource that most many many people are not aware of yeah. That's that is a fascinating thing. I may have to the Marshfield School of being on my radio program sometime in the not too distant future so I'll make I'll make a note of that but Suitca and I wondered if you have any the any particular displays year at the at the fair yourself or are you. Are you an act of this in terms of you're actually sitting at the spinning wheel well. I guess I'm the active one no. I haven't had time to have anything entered in the fair this year but up on antique he'll. I'll be spending a wall on walking wheel which most people don't spend on anymore and many people don't spend flax. It's a little it's much more difficult to spend than a then we'll and and of course if there isn't weaver. I'll be sitting there leaving to because I loved that okay so speaking a little weaving living here in between the spinning so so what is more difficult about spinning flax than than won't flex grass wow well of course it's is fiber that has a little hook on it and so those hooks act sort of like velcro and it spins together quite easily but slack being grass does not it has no nothing that will hook you use water or I use my own saliva alive and help. I spent wet and slightly wet that helps break down the cellulose of the plant. I see and helps it to spend easier. Wow it's just more difficult and you're spending flags can come three ear four feet long so that's why that's probably why. Lillian clothing items these days tend to be fairly pricey yeah because it's a it's a process it is a bit more difficult than as you say than than regular wall and that sort of thing right and just extract thing what we're spending is in the capillary system of the plant so just to extract that CAPULETI system from the rest of the plant is oh you long tedious job. I've always said it's a little hard to prove this but the flax when you put it in the ground around and grow it so you can get a sheet off for the loon. It's GonNa be at least a year while and then that sheet isn't going to be usable because because you've got a bleach it and make it soft enough that you can stand it because flex can be really rough on your skin pretty stiff and scratchy actually here if you don't treat it somehow so that it is fascinating and one of the things that always kind of just makes me go. Holy cow is is I look at a lot of these processes that went into a in this case making making linen in the old days or so many any other so many other are the processes of work around the farm and this sort of thing so labor intensive. I mean you know what a different world back then when when you think about the time it took folks to do what most people don't do anymore number one or even if there is some continuing activity. It's all mechanized now around right. I think the thing that is so vastly different and it really began to happen. At the end of the nineteenth century is it time and became a commodity time was not a commodity in the earlier times it and if you were gonNA put a a year into making a sheet roughly that she could last one hundred years wow well you put at the time in the quality and to whatever you were making and we don't do that anymore that is that's a really interesting view of of it. I mean I I think you're right that that with the advent of the industrial revolution and so on people started saying time is money right and and once once that becomes a prevailing and attitude than nobody wants to spend a year making a sheet anymore right the other thing you call it the industrial revolution and I was at a textile seminar this year and the woman's and let it said it really wasn't a re a Tex an industrial revolution. The industry was already there. it was was a technical revolution but technical revolution where the beginning of the mechanisms and the IM- inventions in the machinery sorry took what people have been doing for centuries and just approved upon it and we're still doing that. I think by the way I'M GONNA changes subjects here a little bit and ask you just because I can't let it go unremarked. You're you're wearing a stunning outfit today. Saying this long dresses is a sort of olive green and has a very nice of blueprint on it and and so tell us a little bit about the period of that dress and one is made of and so on while it's made from cotton and it's a pattern from the eighteen ninety a friend of mine and she has a business who reproduces patterns so you can make the the clothing this one is called the schoolmarm stress and I have to say it's got twenty three buttons down the front of it and does take a Lotta time three. It took me three times to get this dress today so I kept doing crooked would be kinda frustrated. You get the button number twenty three to go in and go decided yeah eh start over again so that must be an and again that that's the kind of thing that if time is not a commodity times not even even take your dress show this morning and of course person saying okay you're going to be there by such time right so breath and and and I and I also WanNa ask you buy this is a is a proper broach. You're on you're telling you tell me about that and it was my I think my great grandmother's I know I got it from my grandmother but I think it was from my great grandmother and it's a it's a stunning piece it's probably about. I don't know I'm thinking four inches across and maybe two two and a half tall and you're wearing right. If you read it in front of your collar there and it's it's a really charming and then and then the jacket top it all off well. The jacket came off the rack a really long time ago it looks it looks old fashioned like it fits the fifty outfit overall bought and definitely fooled me so off. Iraq though so that's quite all right and well law that that is that's wonderful and one last word on the history here. What is what is the value of of doing all of this of of I love just a minute ago someone up. What's the value? The value is to educate our public that we are people who war creative and like to share what we're doing and whether it's with our animals or with our hands that's wonderful well. SUITCA and I thank you very much for your great culminated guests here on the Graham show for this Thursday September twelfth. Thanks for joining me. Thank you folks. That's about it for the Dave Ramsey show here live from the fair built their common sense radio also going to be stationed right here at the same zeba damage for the next hour so stay with w DV TV then our midday news service and I think Ken Squire Vampire background Saturday so we're going to have a lot of fun at average bears. We always do navigate everybody.

Tunbridge The Times Tunbridge Fair Tunbridge Fair Tunbridge Vermo Vermont Tunbridge Fair president Tunbridge Fair Erin Tunbridge Roger Roger Tunbridge Fair US Dave Kelly Burke State House Roger Hill Pat Brennan Dave Ramsey Champlain Valley Fair Rob House superintendent
11-11-20 - The Mo Egger Show

Mo Egger

2:02:49 hr | 5 months ago

11-11-20 - The Mo Egger Show

"Lee began today's meditation with the few sipping exercises to remind us. A little treat can go a long way so pick up your mcafee. Iced coffees close. Your eyes and deep szepen and deep satisfaction out. Take a treat retreat at mcdonald's right now mcafee iced coffee and any size and any flavor for just ninety nine cents. Tell them fm am. Price of participation may vary game. You've been waiting for it. Is bagels are after bigwig when they face rutledge burger. Steve your pigskin. Promo ready worded. Dave left begins sunday at twelve noon on. Espn fifteen thirty over the bingo. That's right i can't wait. Bengals steelers great burrow. Back ahead and not watching them on sunday afternoon. I'm alleged you're listening to espn fifteen thirty and thanks for doing that. This is a jam packed. Show today. I like barely room for me to talk which might be why we we jam. Today's show full of stuff In thirty minutes. A little bit of fickle from last night on uc in the college football playoff. I'm going to spend some time on that this afternoon. By the way tonight we find out of trevor bowers lacked at last act is red is to win. The cy young award is going up against. Jacob degrom darvish. We'll spend some time on the red. So i think are a very unique position and somewhat enviable somewhat unenviable. And we'll get to that as well. Obviously a lot on the bengals often gail pro. Football focus at four zero five and a master's preview as well at four thirty three with a guy. Who's golf. podcast. I become a big fan of cam. Roger so look forward to that. Joe burrow a little bit later on as we look ahead to steelers week. Bengals game plan at six o five tonight. I've pretty much as we say in the business i've over teased. I've kind of told you everything that's going to be happening but nothing on. This show can happen until on a wednesday. At least we have zac. Taylor press conference bengals back at work. Getting set for sunday's tilt against the steelers. You just heard that guy with the deep voice. Say it's at four twenty five sunday afternoon on. Espn fifteen thirty. One thing really quick. And i stepped out of the room during the top of the hour sportscenter. Update i'm sure they covered this if not this broke about ten minutes before we went on the air. The ohio state game against maryland has been canceled. Not postponed cancelled due to An outbreak on maryland's team. That game is not going to be made up the big ten built in no off weeks no room to to build in games that have been postponed. So that's not going to happen more on that a little bit later on as well but it's wednesday zac taylor press conference. Nfl head coaches are really really really important. So they meet with the media twice a week. Here is zack. Chatting with the local football media via zoom earlier. Today the secular press conference brought to you in part by climate master geothermal heat pump systems on espn fifteen thirty. The official home of bengals. The practice can you give us a status update and your other week. One office align starters and also joe makes yes so a couple of guys still. We'll see how they go throughout the week. We'll hold him out today. Some of them will just individuals today. Jona won't do the team various today and Nixon either but again we're encouraged by the progress. We'll see whether out tomorrow. Same with bobby hart. Who's xavier xavier. We brought back to practice. You know sam hct. We brought back yesterday so again. We'll we'll see where those guys are out. And how they're how they're ready to go as as the week goes before we make any final decisions on savior. What about hopkins and michael jordan. They're both good to go. And for whatever reason. You can't get fred cleared by sunday and bobby can't go. I'm just assuming a keen would flip to that spot and would be your emergency tackle. A couple of guys you know about offense line room that have that avoid before in practice there obviously keen played left tackle force last week. And we've got confidence came. If he needs to go. Sam hubbard play. A specific number snaps will be more so just how he feels. It feels pretty good. You know and i think he's. He's felt really good. The by we came at a real good time last week so we're prepared to throw them out there and see how well he does. But i know that he's feeling really good. Thank you offense of why we kind of influx. Because of the kobe situation of bobby situation all that. But how much do you look at this moving forward. Maybe game two game series two series where there's a couple of missing you can plug and play guys because you've seen some of them play. Where how much of it is. You wanna kinda settle back on five guys as much as possible. I think you always want the continuity you know and and you always want those guys next to each other because there's some verbal and nonverbal stuff from one another but we've got a lot of guys that have been in this program for a long time. Now they understand the expectations and they've got enough reps to where we don't. We don't feel cautious dole things atom. They're prepared to if they need to coach how. How much does having played baltimore help. Joe burrow facing the pittsburgh steelers with their blitz package or are they so different from phil- loss vs standpoint or or schematic standpoint. It's really not that big an issue. I think at the end of the day. They're a really good defense. And we played a couple of those. You know andy. Philly philly had a great front foes get one of the best fronts in the nfl and certainly baltimore's of the better defense as we face. So of course we played some really good defenses Sorry guys ready to handle anything. We know pittsburgh's a good team got a lot of respect for him but our guys are ready to go off. The road egotistic adam for quinton spain. coming up this week and how challenging has it been sifting through all the new pieces even beyond the injuries at the guard. We just established a plan. You know and one not necessarily that we'll share with everybody but we feel like quinton has picked it up very quickly and so he'll he'll be able to help us in some way shape or form and begin where he's at just just really after how many days it's been here ten days eleven days here he's got high football q. And he's done a good job picking it all up go ahead of also gonna ask him quitting spain. He's already been here for two weeks ago. Why did you sign him. What was the reason for bringing him as he's got a lot of experience in this league. You did a nice job in buffalo and so again. Anytime we can add quality players to our roster will go ahead and make those decisions how spinney adapting to what you what. You guys doing offensively coach. He's been good you know we haven't been around him that much obviously he. He didn't play in that game. He wasn't here yet and then we had the bye week so he wasn't really couldn't be in the building this four days and then we didn't have the players in on monday so From what i've been around him. I like him. He's a football guy you know. He's got a great understanding he's got good experience and pittsburgh and seattle. But i can stand here and say that. I have a great grasp on him yet when he hasn't really taken interrupts at. How can you teach a quarterback you as a weapon and is that. Is that something that kind of guys. Just kind of have to have their own improvisational. Feel for a little bit of both. It's something you do spend a lot of time talking about showing examples and then it's it's in some ways it's up to those guys to make their own. Sometimes they have a better feel for what keynes's they use. The new usually hear it on the tv copies what ended up using during the game. And you hear that practice. Obviously but i think that joe is one of those guys who's really done a nice job of it used as a weapon for us that you've seen we've gotten not as many free places which feel like we should have gotten down the field. Some of them will but he's done a nice job he's net is welcome so far coach. Can you give a little overview of big band in their offensive stars and also Their defense yeah. They're always an explosive offense. They got good backs. Could physical lineman band is one of the best in the league. And then they're really doing a good job using this these tight ends in these these receivers. They're all playmakers. All show up. It's also plays when they're mashed up on a one nice job with route running and creating explosives. They'll smoothie got good hands so they're they're certainly dangerous on offense and their defense you know is one of the best in the league and it really starts upfront with those front guys that they got it. Put a lot of pressure on the quarterback. They put together a long time. They got good back right behind him. You know obviously make at least secondary and they got really talented corners nichols so it's a group that will familiar with. They play really well together. They've obviously they've got thirty four thirty five sacks they tana turnovers that they've created so they do a real nice job on defense. Their defensive coordinator coach coach has been around for a long time and a lot of those players have been with him for a long time in this year of covid. How advantageous do you think that is is that a factor in why their plans so well just how familiar they are with each other and scheme and everything involved. It appears that way. You don't see mistakes on tape. You know some defenses. You play and you can tell whether it's miscommunication errors and and just flat out boss but you don't see it on against these guys. Do your job plan point all eleven years together co twenty. Thank where some of the biggest things that joe joe burrow learned from the baltimore game but the would stay bride and everything in similar. Looks like that from pittsburgh. What do you think of the biggest things that joe took out of that game. I think overall we we didn't play. Well offensively you know. And it wasn't necessarily ham. It's what we all take away from it We got to be more efficient on first and second down. Campus herself ministered long situations Got a call. Better place that puts us in a better position so You know we don't have to hang on to the ball and wait for somebody to open. So that's that's one of those games. Play sixteen of them. That was one of those ones that got away from us. It wasn't our best performance. Sue just got to put us to bed. Move on and i think we played well since then. What are the biggest areas you think that joe burrow can improve on in the second half of the season i think he just learned from his experiences from weak. The weak and. I don't think there's this glaring thing he's got to improve on he just every rep he gets against a new coverage anew frana new pressure he stores his memory bank and he uses that for the next time you he runs up play. And so i think that that's just. He's very mature in that sense as a rookie that that he's stores that information and uses it his advantage now as quickly as you can and so you just qa those reps that experience and only gets better with with every passing day. Oc nfl is mutual admiration society. Where coaches go. I mean it's just only a few of you guys so that respect for each other very prominent what. What did you like about coach. Tomlin style of coaching. I really haven't been around him. i. I've never worked with them or but he's been really successful. It's a lot of his players You know he's coached them to lot of victories. And there's a lot to be said for that. I gave you have an update on whether the db's will be back and what's it like when not everybody can participate in person when you have some virtual and some there. How do you go about that. Can give some idea. We just know that. There's always going to be adversity and challenges. We don't know day to day what it's always gonna look like but the biggest thing is we. We don't make excuses. Don't waste any time sitting here complaining about it. We just make the most of it. you know. we've we've done a great job on zoom so far. The last two days are lawyers have done a great job spacing out at practice to walk through and making sure they're keeping their distance their masks on and that's all we can do right now you know and then just make sure we get quality reps and get ready to play on sunday. You see that that spacing out and just the adjustments that you're having to make do you see that continuing throughout the week or do you think you will have a normal practice at some point. This week we'll see you know. I think anticipate protocol the latest. I heard was. It'd be through thursdays testing. You know and ending. Friday based on the test so again to see what the league says to us. Thought the entire offense when you've had a time now to take a look at it. What are you doing best what you need to do better. I think we've been improving protection. You know that was one of the issues early in the season for for a lot of different reasons. Like i've always said it's not always the offense line. It's it's all those guys doing their responsibility a little bit better. I think that has really improved this last couple of weeks And so again. That's an area of improvement. I think we've seen we've been more efficient when we've been in the red zone these last couple of weeks and we just gotta continue to improve every time we get an opportunity. This has been zac. Taylor press conference on. Espn fifteen thirty. The official home of the bengals area goes act taylor from earlier today. Bengals getting set to take on the steelers pittsburgh on sunday. Four twenty-five is your kick. You'll hear live on. Espn fifteen thirty couple of practice. Notes really quickly. Joe mixing working out on the side rehab specialists working him out today as he works his way back hopefully plays on sunday. We will see sam hubbard first day back today as well. The reporters who were down there were reporting. No sign of gino atkins also was looking. Like that neither tee higgins or aj green would be practicing the saturn as well xavier. Su'a filo has been cleared to return to practice a lot more on the bengals and all of their rostrum moves tonight six. Oh five bengals. Game plan with dan and dave lab alive on. Espn fifteen thirty two hours. Nothing but bengals as we get set for joe burrow's first ever game against the pittsburgh steelers and what for my money is the beginning. The unofficial beginning of zac taylor era will spend some time on that next on. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station. Twenty two after three mom allegra. This is espn fifteen thirty by the way. Happy veterans day to those who have served We have a poll question on twitter. Ammo allegra fifteen thirty you. Can you can vote There's still time. I posted this late last night yesterday. We found out that when tony larussa was pop for dui back in february which his employer found out. They say the day before they announced he was going to be hired because he was charged officially the day before he was hired by the white sox. Second dui offense. Tony larussa is according to the police. Report allegedly allegedly said to the arresting officer quote. I'm a hall of famer baseball person in sort of a do you know who i am. Attempt i guess to get out of trouble. He also was wearing his hall of fame ring so he said. Do you see the ring. It also looks like gregg. Marshall is out at wichita state because a handful of former players have basically accused him of mental and in some cases physical abuse. This guy is out of control. According to a couple of different reports one was in the athletic stadium and among the things he's accused of doing is chasing down. I guess another student a student athlete at marshall who apparently parked in gregg marshall spot and gregg marshall said to the college kid quote. Do you know who the f i am. So we are asking on twitter. Better celebrity a better celebrity flex gregg marshall or tony. Larussa right. now. Tony larussa is running away with it. Seventy one percent still time to vote at mo. Egger fifteen thirty. You can complain. All you want about mike tomlin. You can complain. All you want about ben rothlisberger. I understand their steelers. You don't like them. You don't like how mike tomlin's team plays you. Don't like ben rothlisberger. Ben rothlisberger if you were to list me asked me who my least favorite. Nfl player of all time is ahead and ask me. It's ben rothlisberger at the same time. What ben rothlisberger has done is what we want. Joe burrow to do right anchor a team in place for more than a decade and a half appear in and win multiple super bowl's always maintained a degree of relevance and build upon. What they did is rookies ben. Roethlisberger is a rookie. Fifteen in one. Now he wasn't asked to do. Nearly as much as the bengals are asking. Joe burrow to do but i think you get the point ben. Roethlisberger is the standard mike. Tomlin is the standard mike. Tomlin's going to camp. I know there's a lot of people who don't like that and he's not an infallible coach his game management. I've laughed at his game. Management has has has given. The bengals wins against pittsburgh in the past with their win over dallas last week. That is now fourteen seasons. He's been in pittsburgh. Fourteen seasons they will finish without losing record. Obviously some of those teams are quite good. Some of those teams obviously better than others. And you can afford to have some eight nights when you win. Playoff games win championships. And he's also had playoff losses. That i think are inexplicable loss to the dolphins at home a couple of years ago but fourteen years. His team always relevant marvin. Lewis couldn't do that. it's really hard for most. Nfl head coaches. To first of all. You gotta stay in one place for a long time second of all. You can't ever turn into foreign twelve or three and thirteen or a five. An eleven having a hall of fame quarterback helps. That's the standard. You might hate to hear it. That's the standard zac taylor era for. My money starts on sunday sort of a fresh beginning right coming out of the by had some momentum going into the bye give borough week off. The season cut in half. I sixteen games. Zac taylor could not have been given more of a pass. And i would be at the front of the line of people giving him the pass. Whatever excuse she wanted to us last year while he was hired late well they had to cobble together. A coaching staff lee well. I didn't have jody. williams didn't have aj green that the front office didn't do him any favors. They didn't spend any money. They brought back the same crappy defense offensive line not very good. Lame duck quarterback cool man awesome. You know what fine. None of it on zach. Even the first half okay. Well no preseason games. That's going to be tough. You got a rookie quarterback. Aj green is playing himself back. You're gonna purge locker room of guys who don't want to be here like carlos dunlap still have a bad offensive line. John williams is still working his way into the nfl. Come on now. Can't be that unfair. Zach okay all right at some point you're judged by whether or not you win games after pittsburgh the next four opponents are combined eleven and twenty three if you throw in houston texans. They will have five games in the second half of the season against opponents who are a combined thirteen and twenty nine thirteen and twenty nine. One of those teams will not be using it. Starting quarterback dallas could still be using. Its third string quarterback. And actually if you look at gilbert more like fourth or fifth string quarterback one of those teams in washington. No idea who their quarterback is going to be. That's been a revolving door forever. Certainly this year. Another one of those teams already fired. Its head coach. I got to see some victories. But you know what if this this is really going to. This is really going to take off here in the second half of the season. Go in one of these games against pittsburgh or baltimore like the steelers as an organization are what they are. that's well established. We talk about it every single year with a great amount of envy. They are in eight no football team. They're going to the playoffs and they're going to be a tough out because of their defense and that's going to be an immense challenge for this offensive line. I don't know how they're gonna block. Tj what. I don't know how they're going to block. Cameron heyward frankly. My view of the game doesn't change that much if rothlisberger doesn't play because when i think of this steelers team i think of the challenge. They prevent for present for opposing offenses. Whether it's running or throwing their run defenses great. It's not an unbeatable team. They've won eight games. They've won one decisively now. Some of those winds really impressive baltimore tennessee. Given how good those. Those teams are. Tennessee obviously also lost to cincinnati but the dallas cowboys can come this close to winning with garrett gilbert blank quarterback against pittsburgh then. It's not unfair to suggest that the bengals should at least be in the game in the fourth quarter with joe burrow playing against pittsburgh. I think they've got a shot. I know i said that before baltimore. That game was over after about four possessions. Maybe the same thing happens on sunday. And i worry about this offensive line but if the zac taylor air is beginning here in the second half of the season we need two things i do. At least you gotta get your share of wins against those beatable teams later on your schedule. Also your team's performance against the steelers has to improve. I know they played them close in that second game last year. I don't count that game. That was ryan finley vs duck. Hodges account the one that was played on monday night. Football two months prior that was a disaster at some point. If you want to separate yourself from what your franchise used to be you gotta beat the pittsburgh steelers and at some point if you want us to believe in you as a head coach you gotta start winning football games. Let's mesh those two things this weekend three thirty. Espn fifteen thirty bengals game. Plan coming up at six o five. You wanna hear. Luke fickle on a national stage asked about his team and the college football playoff rankings. Okay you'll hear it next on. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station. Twenty six from four o'clock on espn fifteen thirty acre badly. Pat brennan's is going to be on this show in ten minutes covers. Fc cincinnati for the inquirer to put a poll on their season which came to an end a rainstorm. In miami on sunday to an expansion team that made the playoffs novel concept A couple of things really quickly here. Trae hopkins and michael jordan have been cleared to return. Should be good to go for sunday. When the bengals go to pittsburgh to play the steelers. Cincinnati is also cleared xavier. Su'a feel to come back to practice. They have designated him for return from. I are also activated jordan evans and mackenzie alexander off the covid. Nineteen cincinnati still has four players on the reserve covid nineteen list winston rose mortgage fred johnson entry wayne. Cincinnati is also assigned tackle shade. Dugas o'shea o'shea dugas second-year player from louisiana tech college free agent signee of the bengals in two thousand nineteen spent sixteen games last year and i are due to injury. He suffered during the preseason was waived as the final among the final cuts this preseason no team drills four jona williams or joe mixon as the team came back to work today bengals steelers kick off at four twenty five on sunday pregame at noon on. Espn fifteen thirty. Don't forget bengals game plan tonight from six to eight on. Espn fifteen thirty as well tonight. We'll find out who won the national league cy young award for two thousand twenty the finalists. Trevor bauer jacob. Degrom the mets and yu darvish of the cubs. Cincinnati reds have never had national league. Cy young award winner. Meanwhile xavier university in the big east announced its tip times and dates for its november and december games. They will play three games to start. The season on consecutive days at noon against oakland bradley and toledo is part of the xavier invitational. You can find all the times with the exception of the tip time for the game. The bearcats have yet to come out with a schedule. For any part of this season. You can get the entire schedule at goes eight dot com and if you missed it before the ohio state game has been cancelled as of now not going to be made up cancelled because of covid nineteen among maryland's team speaking of college football so last night. Espn had their college football. Playoff top twenty. Five show and luke pickled bearcats continue to get some national run. This is not the first time that we have had. Luke fickle on an espn property. He was on sportscenter last week. Last night he was on the college football playoff top twenty five show interviewed by the great race. Davis here's the espn host asking the ucla coach about airplanes nationally. Still couple of weeks away from the first college football playoff rankings being released how should your team be evaluated. A strength of schedule probably not going to match up with some although the remaining strength of schedule compares favorably to some perceived as upper-crust. Hush committee evaluate your team. I always believe it's going to be wins and losses. I mean that's pretty simple But i really think it's gonna come down. How your plan at the end of the year. I mean in all that we've seen throughout this entire season but in general the past few seasons they're gonna find the team. They're playing best the end of the year and obviously for us that means you got to keep winning but for a lot of teams outside of the clemson's of the world i mean if you're playing your best football at the end of the year i think everybody knows you're going to have some type of shot and that's all you can ask for Continue to find a way that no matter. What do all the adversities do injuries covert. If you're playing your best football at the end of the year I think they'll give somebody or somebody like shot. How do you think your team stacks up against teams perceived to be in the upper across teams from the spca big ten whatever. It might be. Well we've faced the highest state last year and we didn't fare real well And i think we gained a lot from it. I think that it was a big turning point for us. And it kinda made our season last year to for us to realize where we needed to go if we wanted to compete with the best and i think that we've been challenged in a lot of ways With a lot of the teams in in particular a lot of the skilled athletes that we've seen this year from from opponents But i think we're on on a on the cusp of really being able to you. Know get in there and not just compete with those guys but To win and and i think that because of all three phases of the game and we've been really solid front offensively and defensively and no matter what i know. Everybody talks about the back end and everybody talks about desmond winter but if you can be really good up front on both sides of the football i got a chance in any game. Look fickle on the. Espn college football playoff. Top twenty five show last night on. Espn bearcats will play east carolina. Ecu on friday night at nippert stadium last regular season home game for the bearcats who would still obviously likes to host the title. Game at nippert stadium. You know he leaned of the argument a little bit here. The the the ohio state thing. I had somebody bring that up to me last night. That was last year college. Football seasons are mutually exclusive. You judge a team in two thousand twenty based on what it did and didn't do in two thousand twenty. The fact that uc played ohio state last year and got smoked against a much much superior highest eighteen should have no bearing on any argument pro or con uc. Obviously it's not going to be made pro you see. That's i've had people say to me. Well you know the last time were in a situation like this. They got just whacked by florida. Yeah eleven years ago because they lost a game in lopsided fashion eleven years ago to a great florida team because that happened eleven years ago. They shouldn't get a chance to play for a national championship. Now that obviously that should have less impact than what happened between ohio state and uc last year and what happened between uc in ohio state last year should have nothing to do with the placement of the teams this season. The ohio state thing is going to be interesting and not that they wouldn't be deserving a spot in the top four if the season ended today not that they don't have a great team but right now with the maryland game looking like it's not going to be made up college football college. Football playoff selection committee is going to have to answer some questions about inequities and that was already built in because not every league. Not every team is playing the same number of games but you could have a team playing seven. You could have team playing as few as six. Let's say ohio state where to have another game. Get cancelled held up against the team to play ten or including the conference championship game. Eleven it's why. And i don't say this from a perspective although it certainly i think would help the bearcats chances. It's why i am when it comes to the college football playoff. I've always been a fan of the field being remaining what it is. Because i like the exclusivity. I don't want to water it down. Every other playoff in sports is being watered down. We've watered down the tournament a little bit. We've watered down the baseball postseason. We've watered down the nfl playoffs again. Basketball and hockey already watered down and the nba is going to water it down even more because i think the play in tournaments going to stay and some cases i like these things but it does increase the number of teams. What i love about the college football playoff is there's no. There's nobody who backed in. There's nobody who had an okay season. Its greatness that said for this year because you have things like cova. D'you have games being cancelled. I think it's more difficult than ever to hold two team side by side against each other. You have a group of five schools that don't get a chance to play anybody in the power five leagues. I think this would have been a year to expand the field now. I know you say look. We're having a hard enough time finishing this season much less adding games to it. I understand that argument but from competitive sampling. I think this would have been the one year to expand the field and then go from there in two thousand twenty one. I'm more on this perspective. Coming up in the five o'clock hour. Jim kelly by the way is going to be on the show talking about uc versus at five. Forty our weekly chat. Austin gail pro football focus on bengals. The steelers coming up at four zero five and i have a favor to ask of. Espn's jason fitz will do that coming up at four twenty plus joe burrow in one hour but i the second fc cincinnati season in major league. Soccer has come to a disappointing end. This season boy it just it felt got off to a bad start peaked. A little bit in orlando and then spiralled out of control. Eight pat brennan who covers the team for the inquirer tells us why. And what's next next on. Espn fifteen thirty betrayed for was russell westbrook. And obviously it's a thirteen away from four o'clock. This is espn fifteen thirty austin gail pro. Football focus in fifteen minutes. Se cincinnati while wound down at season on sunday. But they did score a goal in I'm not even. I'm not sure they should have played that game that that weather was Was brutal in miami nonetheless Their second campaign in major league soccer came to a two one and on sunday in miami. Fc cincinnati ending their season with just four victories and a minus twenty four goal differential. Pat brennan covers fc cincinnati for the inquirer and cincinnati dot com. It's been awhile man how you been mobile. I've been good man how. 'bout yourself i I am delightful. It feels like i mean legitimately five lifetimes ago the last time you and i talked and it feels like even before then that we about this team before the season outlining how they may play outlining how they could be better outlining. What the goals for the season where it feels like none of them were met a minus twenty four goal differential. They had a hard time scoring last year at times. It was impossible for this team to find the back of the net this season. Are you surprised that they were as bad as they were. Yeah i was definitely surprised. And one of the main reasons for that was i remember specifically coming on with you On at least two occasions and talking to you about the star On loan forward that they brought in for this season And he'll be here through at least june All of june next year you're gonna khadijeh What i saw from him in preseason and he he's not the only reason they could not score goals this year. That comes down to every single person on the team missing. You know what what the new head coach would call hundred percent chances but mccotter a guy that bears the brunt of the goal scoring burden and i thought he was an absolute game changer in preseason and in the two games they snuck in before the league shut down for the coronavirus and when they got back on the field He had injuries. But you know putting those aside he just looked like a different player not in a good way And i think you could say a several players for fc cincinnati. They just did not Particularly some of the big names they've brought in this offseason including seemed young. They just didn't live up to their billing that they had earned over years playing in europe and there there were some Metrics smo- that point to progress in certain areas. You know mostly in defense you'll recall lapse year. They also in addition to not scoring enough probably. They also couldn't keep the ball out of the back of their own net. Yeah so you know. If you do some math and some calculus you can reach for some some stats that indicate they improved their and it is true that they shut out the opposition on almost a third of the games in the pandemic shortened season. They just finished but You know when you're not scoring goals when you're scoring goals with the frequency that they were not even close to being enough so I i was surprised. I didn't think they were a playoff team Back in normal times before the pandemic and landscapes shifted a little bit as mls dealt with the pandemic and they opened up playoff field. A little bit made it a little bit easier I still didn't think they were a playoff team. But i thought they would be much much more Competitive in terms of wins and losses them ended up. Being i go back to to the bubble orlando the first game. They get smoked by columbus. Win the next two and they drastically adjust their style of play. And i mean. I remember remarking look. I watched enough mick cronin error. Uc basketball wins. That i could appreciate playing keepaway. I appreciate your defense. When i saw i enjoyed a lot of fifty five fifty one games that were hard to watch but you know what this is what they had to do and to to get to get his guys for yobs down to get his guys to play the way they did. Those two games to advance the knockout stage. I walked away from that event in. Orlando thinking you know what fc. Cincinnati has its coach from that point forward. How would you assess how yup stem did with the personnel. That he was kind of limited by. Yeah so i. i would extend that. I agree with you about Everything you just said. And i would extend out the period during which i was impressed by the team Into through august and september a little bit because they had a scoreless tie at home with columbus that again. If you could just find one goal you win. That game and the state of the team was such that they couldn't find him the one goal eventual major the eventual regular season champions in philadelphia. They had a great tie At nippert stadium against a great tie. That sounds us. Your eagles bengals had head. Great time i i you know my point being it was it was a good performance that ended in a tie again because they should have one and they just couldn't get that goal so And then made a decision you know. This team is always strived to play the beautiful game. And i think as they started to see I mean they'd a run of like. I think it was four straight scoreless ties at home At nippert and i think you know those are the. That's okay but in a twenty three game season you know where you get one point in the standings win and three four victory. They starting to leave a lot a lot. A lot of points out there so they changed things up. They became less defensive I think out of necessity. I think there was a lot of pressure. People were getting impatient with kind of defense. I attitude and Yeah i think that Exposed se since laddy a little bit defensively by being more attacking But i think it also exposed the lack of depth and ultimately the lack of talent because even when they played a really kind of up tempo possession oriented quote unquote. Beautiful game style You didn't have players there that were capable of or at least prove themselves over this past season to be incapable of those opportunities so i think he did a really good job I think you have to okay. I think i've which this is extremely rare and Nice for me and my position. Mo- i've had a chance to finally beat yup and he's He's a no nonsense guy he didn't come. I look this guy is one everything worth winning in. The game is played in every competition worth playing in He was a teammate of David beckham at manchester united and was harder and stuff because those manchester united teams were excellent. He was one of the best players that his position in his era. So the guy knows what he's doing. He knows how to win and he wouldn't have come here quite frankly. I think if you didn't have confidence that they would be investment to improve the team improve the players But over the course this season. I think playing the way he did initially switching it up to become more attacking. I think you saw The sum total of what this team's parts amounted to and it just again it. It's kind of simple just wasn't enough offensively. I've got like three minutes here so they moved major league soccer. Twenty twenty one is kind of targeted by a lot of us as new stadium's going to open and look the new stadium's going to open and who knows what that environment is going to be by the time we get there but but they're going to move into the new stadium okay by then. Hopefully they can have the kind of team. That's that's competing for something beyond the basement in in half of major league soccer. How realistic is that. How easy offseason is it to fix things to the level that they're gonna be not just more competitive but actually consistently competitive next year. Yeah it's a great question so you know. Mls is one of these leagues. Maybe it's unique on professional sports in north america in terms of quote unquote major leagues. That you can go from the basement to first place In major league soccer in one off season There's an example of it this year. Not with philadelphia necessarily who wanted the regular season like i said like kansas city who fc. Cincinnati narrowly lost to a few weeks ago. They finished in the western conference in eleventh place last year. Eleven out of twelve teams this year. They took first place and we'll have that advantage going to the western conference playoffs to sell. You can have a a turnaround in off season Season finale left itself with a lot of work to do with this roster. They've made a lot of announcements. They've sold the plan to media and fans this week But they have they just had. They have a lot of work to do. So whenever you're gonna have. I wouldn't call it rebuild but it's certainly a pretty extensive revamp and anytime that happens with just the way quirks of soccer mo like it's just gonna take teams a little bit longer to get it's gonna take those teams a little bit longer to get on the same page so I you know we'll see what the pandemic allows for in terms of pro sports next year but if given a full thirty four game season and you know if they hit on all the signings they bring it they shop wisely in europe and they maybe they bring in some guys that know. Mls for this team. Next year. I think you could see them. Maybe use the first half of next season as a transitionary period. And then that's more than enough time and mls to go on a run to make the playoffs. So i think everything is on the table right now but It started on monday with the roster decisions and it continues today the work and they they have to get it right. This offseason you engage with here. You engage with diehards. Die hard supporters of this franchise. It was striking for the. I think it was the second last home game when there were no tvos hung in the bailey. Some sort of a sign of protest. I i talk with them. Follow enough people who love this franchise who are expressing concern distrust lack of patients and by the way i think to a degree all. That's really really good. I think that's really really good. A a bona fide professional sports team needs that and to me. The message is clear. You're not just going to be a good time at your new stadium. You have to start delivering on field results. Or you know we're we're we're gonna take our time and money elsewhere wherever that is. Is that being heard that message being felt and heard in the front offices of fc cincinnati. I think so. It was a pretty grim undertaking To you know. Talk about fc. Cincinnati right about it interview people And certainly ask tough questions of the team And and certain people in the front office later in the season. And i think that was just because they like you said they. They sent The i think exasperation is a great word to describe it There there is a sense. Maybe now more than ever that they are that they are on the clock that there is actual real pressure to perform not just kind of a general desire like you saw west l. years You know the new stadium counts for a lot. But i think also suggests that this is when it really really starts to count and if if the counting leads people to see more losing like you said That you know. Cincinnati has a wonderful diehard colorful fan base and an experience that is unique to the sports in the great pro sports in the city but It's not it's not a life it's it's it's not like all. The fans have signed for their season tickets by taking blood of you know. These people are more than capable of discerning. What is good. And what is worth their money and If they decide that this isn't going to be you know they feel like fc. Cincinnati isn't taking a winning seriously they will go elsewhere and i think there is an acknowledgement of that mall. Good stuff is always do it against him and thanks so much. Yeah thank you. Thanks for everything you do for us. You gotta pat brennan covers. Fc cincinnati force inside dot com. Follow him on twitter at p brennan e q busy hour still ahead. Joe burrow four forty five. Espn radio's jason. Fitz had four twenty. We're going to win some money on the masters but first austin gail pro football focus on bengals steelers next. this is dan hoard joined. Dave lapham me for bengals game plan tonight starting at six on the official home of the bengals cincinnati. Espn fifteen thirty. I will do that. That'd be my way good afternoon. I'm oh egger this is. Espn tipping thirty Jason fitz of espn radio and other platforms and fifteen minutes. And if you wanna bet the masters stick around for our guest at four thirty five plus joe burrow later on this hour on wednesdays at this time we spent some time with an analyst from pro football focus. Who's usually austin gail because he's the best. He's on twitter at pf. Underscore austin gail pro. Football focus by the way. I say this every single week an invaluable resource i met the ceo and founder of pro football. Focus yesterday and said dude. You guys are awesome. And he said thanks. That was nice of him. And i said really. Nice things about austin gail so. I think you're getting a raise congratulations fantastic. I could use it. When i'm ready for it very good. We'll see what neil does. Let me start with this. This game on sunday against pittsburgh if everybody on the offensive line were to be available and now we add in bj finney and obviously quinton. Spain was thrown into the mix a week ago. Sunday if everybody's available. What combination should they use against. A vaunted pittsburgh front cough. Jody williams is the first piece that really matters to them. And they'll only on. I think adding quick quinton. Spain trae hopkins. And if michael jordan is available i would probably give him an opportunity against pittsburgh steelers and right tackle bobby her. Maybe fred johnson depending on who kind of works best this week or who is the healthiest but the bottom line is it. does it matter offensive. Line play matters. Of course really good pass rushers and they have two of them and step onto it and pj walk right now but offense of game plan is arguably more important like you need to get the ball out quick. You need to recognize that pittsburgh steelers are going to put a ton. You need to dial concepts that beat the blitz. It obviously needs to play well. But i think the game plan you can go against the pittsburgh steelers defense where the game prepared to see the blitz. They did not have that against the ravens a few weeks ago. I think they need to have it gets pittsburgh this week. So we'll see if joe mixon's able to play didn't play the last two games by week last week. He didn't go full board. Today was on the rehab field. If i assume he's going to be available on sunday how how do they. How do they design a game. Plan with what you just said in mind. Mesh that with the success they had with joe mixon the last two games and then try to integrate what he does well. What does that look. Like against pittsburgh. Yeah i think running. Joe mixing and giovanni bernardo page down higher leverage situation as the way to go in the red zone shorts secondhand short. Pick up your first downs. Convert the football. However the way you lose running joe mixing bernardo's wasting them on early down. First and ten. Second intent is very bad efficiency for the opposite side of the ball with your having the ball especially behind the bengals offensive line. I think they need to attack attack attack throw unruly downes takes shots binder explosive. Plays 'cause if you trying to grind this out with the pittsburgh steelers run the football a time control. The clock is just not going to work. They were going. They are the better team. They are more talented Bottom on this roster and for that reason you need you take shots you need to find your explosive plays try and beat them with scheme and beat them with a high passing attack and that is what mingle should do with your broke laying as well as the is. I think the game plan. They can win with joe. Mixon is grated thirty first out of fifty nine running backs according to pf he's actually just behind. Giovanni bernard so the middle of the pack. The bengals didn't pay. Joe mixon to be a middle of the pack running back i know he's they've had offensive line issues. Fine but when you watch joe critically and you put him under the microscope what are you not seeing still makes it. He's never been a guy that's force tackles at a high rate. And if you're going to be back and grading well in pf system you need to have need to force. Miss tackles at high rate gain yards after contact with reckless. Abandon and chase explosive. Plays i think the highest grade is running back in. All right now is dalvin. Cook and he enforces. A ton of his tackles but a bigger reason is that he hits home. Runs and joe mixing. It hasn't been that home. Run backwards bengals this year and some of that is the offensive line play. I remember through the first four or five weeks of the season. No running back was contacted at or behind. The line of scrimmage. A higher percent of his carries then joel mix. He has not easy sledding there in cincinnati but what he can do better performed veteran pass protection catch football and obviously force tangles. You need to see more of that. Makes it more dynamism from joe. Mixon austin gail pro. Football focus subscribe good. A pf dot com. What do you want to see. More from joe burrow in the second half we need to shop play any lsu. He was very good throwing the ball. Deep i think he was one of the highest rated passer sewing. Twenty plus air yards downfield this year. He's been quite the opposite. He's one of the lowest grade. Quarterbacks pushing the ball down i think his arm talent is showing up or lack thereof is showing up in the nfl. He's not you know going against other. Nfl nfl defenses. They're better athletes on the football field. They're taking advantage of a weaker arm compared to the other. Nfl top nfl single caller. Right now i think throwing is huge if you don't have a big arm that doesn't mean you can't throw the deep ball. Look with gardner minshew has done with its actual jaguars for a long time. Even ryan fitzpatrick is found ways to throw the ball successfully in his to do that with anticipatory. Throwing predicting what's gonna happen but also you also need an office of line. That's going to get some time. And they just simply haven't had that as well so receiving core of juice. I mean. he's not a great situation to through the deep ball when you look at supporting cast but also i think he can perform better there actually standpoint. Let's talk about ben rothlisberger. You would normally expect a quarterback of an eight no team to be having a great season and i would. I would stop well. Short of saying he's had a poor season. he obviously delivered a comeback against dallas last week. But you know by using your grading system. He's kind of middle of the pack. Packet his position. He's thirty eight years old. This is a defensive oriented team rothlisberger. Specifically if i assume he plays on sunday and frankly i hope he does but if i assume he plays on sunday what's ben rothlisberger strengths and weaknesses in two thousand twenty for fuel like has been on the decline due to injuries. And i've seen age over the past three seasons and the biggest thing that's different now is that he's not super accurate with the football. I think he has a lot of concerns. Similar to carson went great outside of structure pushes the ball downfield. Success has enough arm talent to make things happen but from an actually standpoint down to down actress who standpoint. He's up there. With the highest ranked quarterbacks. He makes mistakes area turns. It has a lot of turnover plays compared to other quarterbacks when he needs to do what the picture suicide try to do with them get the ball. Quick speed it. Diontae johnson and doodoo smith schuster. Let them work after the catch because you ask him to be this dropback passer and push ball downfield ten fifteen yards every throw you just not you be laboring. Get the ball down. There banged up in every way shape or form. I think they are very limited in what ben rothlisberger can do the cincinnati bengals defense needs to take advantage of that try and get him to hold onto the football try and force him to try and take those shots that he could've hit in his prime or hitting right now. Let's talk about that steelers defense. Because they are more defensive oriented than they were three or four years ago. J. watt is the highest grade edge rusher according to pro football focus. Ottawa's having a great year hayward's great you talked about stefan to it. He's really good. They're really tough upfront. Defense as a whole work. You expose a weakness. You've got to get the ball out. Because i think if you try and sit back and take five and seven dropbacks. They're going to. They're going to win one on ones along defense blind. They're going to get pressured. You need to set things up with play action and getting the ball quick. Set them up. Onscreen that type of stuff. 'cause you can count on one thing in this game it's the pittsburgh steelers are going to blitz. Then next two rushers and they're going to win and one on one situations when given the opportunity. Tj step onto it to better passers in the nfl right now to the highest passer win rates of any defensive lineman in the nfl. I think the cincinnati bengals. Like i said get the ball out quick set. Set your longer developing plays up. I'm play action. Don't ask you grow to make twenty three plus yards on standard dropbacks. Play action pass gives you more opportunity slows down past that is how the cincinnati bengals take their shop. Plays can't be standard seven stepped because the office wiser not gonna hold up. Awesome stuff is always man. Thank you as always. I appreciate it. Thank you austin gals on twitter at pf underscore austin gale gale with why i did. I met the ceo and founder a pro. Football focus. Neil hornsby yesterday and i want to work there on the side. I don't wanna watch game film. You know time and time again that but that's seems like a fun place to work on the side. I wanna lose this gig on the side. Taryn you and i. I don't know what value i would bring. So i met the guy yesterday at a luncheon. I didn't ask him for a part time job. But it's not above doing that. Pf dot com go there. Maybe he'll give me my subscription for free. So i don't have to pay for it anymore nonetheless good to meet neil and always good to talk with austin gail. You'll hear from joe burrow who gets his first crack at the pittsburgh steelers on sunday. Joe will speak at four forty five If you're a golf. And even if you just want to put some money on the masters this weekend our buddy cam rogers host of the believe and tiger woods podcasts or go to guy when it comes to pga tour golf and the majors joins us at four thirty five but i Jason fitz on. Espn radio he's on espn. plus he's on espn tv. He is intimately involved in both their pro and college. Football coverage on behalf of every bearcat. Fan listening. I am going to as jason fitz for a favor next on. Espn fifteen thirty rdi corporation presents. Football in the net brought to you in part by papa. John's pizza on espn fifteen thirty. The official home of the bengals. Sometimes you know we'll talk about people who were sports team jerseys and folks get mad when they but if you were jersey jersey. I don't. I don't care dave parker s jersey. I'm barry larkin reds jersey. I'm not ashamed aware but there are some who would do that as sort of weird creepy loser ish. How do we feel about you. Make your twitter avatar. Your favorite team's logo right not a picture of you. It's not like a publicity shot. It's not a of you at work. It's not a candidate no no. It's it's your favorite team's logo. Jason fitz is on this show. You hear him every weeknight on. Espn radio from seven to nine spain and fitz on espn radio. he's its well established. He's a big raiders. Fan it's insufferable. The raiders are pretty good now. they beat the chargers. They came this close to not beating the chargers and guests in his euphoria. He's he's changed his twitter avatar. This a guy who's won a grammy. This is a guy who's like thousand. Espn platforms and yet his identity. More than anything. He wants to be the raiders logo. I don't know man it look at my team want. I don't know you wear you do the things when only one winning season since two thousand two. i like. That's what happened. Like i'm overreacting to five and three. We're at the halfway point of the season. The playoffs talk. I mean good. Lord i don. I don't feel this level of joy very off day wearing a t shirt or a hat enough. I mean can't get another like another tattoo. Is there any room. Get a raiders. Tattoo you gotta go to vegas raiders avatar on twitter. I mean you're implying. I don't have a raider statue also. I changed my banner on twitter to be humble brag me playing the national anthem. Ed in in oakland. Before renting that i understand that that's that's that's okay. That's pictures two years ago. That pictures a few years. There's nobody in the stands. It looks like it was from if not for the stadium change. It looks like it's from this year. Well you know. That's the beauty of dot com. That everybody the top starved off like they had the big part. Because they're gonna think it that's why they're going back away from that but when you watch a last second win when you're used to seeing your team losing last ticket and they win on the last play the game you change your avatar. Maybe i'll experience that one day i. It hasn't happened yet. i need you. I need you to do me a favor can can you. Can you take advantage of your your status at. Espn do me. And a few people listening a solid yet. A thousand percent. I often watch you on championship. Drive where you have a suit on and it's a college football show right. You love college football. So here's what you can do for me. As long as they keep winning they play on on friday night against c. You i need somebody at espn to carry the banner for the ucr cats because they're in the conversation. Maybe the best group of five school. I think they're better than be while you. I know they're better than marshall i know. They're better than coastal carolina and they fell in the polls. They win this week and they dropped in the polls i know that's not the college football playoff rankings. But i need somebody somebody to carry the banner for the uc bearcats. And you have a voice you have a platform you have a position you have a show. I need you to do this for me okay. So here's a couple of things one. I was the one that went to spain and fitz producers about a week ago. We've got to have luke fickle on. He came on and hung out with nine. I'm the one that on one of my other digital shows that i do every week has taken. Cincinnati is my number four team every single week. And i feel. I know notre dame got the big win. So everybody's gonna talk about that. I'll put because if we're going to insist that notre dame and clemson both stay in the top four then i'll put cincinnati at five. I'm also the one that continually pushes some of my co host. Did this concept all my god you know why are we. Why are we suddenly downplaying. Cincinnati competition when. Let's get real. The big ten stinks this year outside of one good team and the pac twelve is going to the big twelve things like everybody thinks so you. Can you really tell me that most of these big ten and sec schools were walking struggle. Right now are better than the teams cincinnati. I don't think so. I think you're going to apply the drennan i test. How can you apply the dreaded test. Cincinnati and not. Put them right down the top five. So i'm with you thousand percents. I will gladly carry that banner all day every day because cincinnati. I think by the end of the year not only should be. I think they will be a playoff team when the you already were my favorite. Espn personality and you just kicked it. In the hyper drive now in fact now since you won't get your face on your twitter avatar. I might get your face on my twitter avatar. That's how fond of you. I am right now. i just think we've overcomplicated. How consume do we have to be with big brands. Get it like okay. Fine we wanna talk level competition most years you can say. There are a couple of teams in in big conferences. That deserve to be in. But we've seen nothing from wisconsin so we can't cleanly put them into any conversation. It's been one. Dan game texas. M's trying to be in the conversation but they have the biggest. No no from. The committee has blowout loss so they have to be thrown out of the conversation. So maybe we wanna make a case for florida but by the end of the year. They'll have a blowout loss alabama. And i think that when clemson and notre dame play again in the acc championship game clemson. We'll win that game handily. So you know. I still believe. They're the better team. So if i'm looking across the board that four spot be wide open nobody else has taken it. If not cincinnati this year than i think at that point if you are a group of five school just acknowledged that you will never make the playoffs. Yes which by the way. That's that's kind of where i am. Because i thought the message was sent very clearly to. Ucf where not only do they not make the college football playoff. They didn't come close to the top five in the year. Two thousand seventeen. They were the year they were. They weren't close sound like they were just on the outside. Looking in this one game would have gone another way that. Ucf would have made it. So i've always used that as a guide. Okay fine cincinnati is not gonna make it but then you throw in a year like this you throw in some inequities. I just if it's ever going to happen. Obviously the bearcats have to hold up their end of the bargain i know. Byu was going to make an argument as well. But if it's ever going to happen this has to be the year and if it doesn't happen this year. I think a lot of us are going to walk away from going okay. It's never going to happen well and and you know. I had the chance to a few years ago to do the box playoff if they do down in dallas and we went there and we debated an old year the same exact process. There's thirteen people in the room and you go through just like the committee does and ucf came up. It was a blake bortles year. Ucf that we were mocking up and You know the number of people in that room. That's out there and said well. You know fifteen to play the sec schedule. They wouldn't have been as good and that that has been sort of the hill. Everybody's died on but again all argue that if you genuinely look at the sec year most of it's bad and it's not just a little bit it's awful and so if you're telling me that cincinnati couldn't have success in these bigger conferences in a year. Those conferences are trash. I don't understand what what it will ever take the win benefit of the data. I think it's one of the biggest failings of the playoff. Let me ask you this. Because you and i talked about this and i don't mean to go down a serious road but i think is specifically when we talk about this sport. We have to ohio. State's not gonna play this weekend. Their game against maryland is going to be cancelled. not even made up cove in one. Thousand nine is spiking around the country. College football has been in. Its crosshairs. I think more obviously more than any other sport for for pretty obvious and understandable reasons. I don't. I'm not gonna ask you to be an epidemiologist because you're not but but from a from a competitive standpoint from a football standpoint. How how's this gonna play out. We're going to have schools. That ohio state game is not going to be made up. They're gonna play in the big ten championship game in all likelihood but have a grand total of eight games on their resume. There are more games that are going to be cancelled. We're running out of by weeks running out of time to make up games. How's this going to work. I feel like the committee at the end is going to be judging five or six win teams against eight or nine win teams trying to make sense of it and you're gonna end up with you know as i said earlier. The dreaded phrase. The eye test is all that they're going to have to go on. And that's so dangerous to me mo like because nobody really comes in and tells me what makes fee in the eye or why they see it and one of the failings of the playoff committee is that because they don't stand up and individually. Tell you like they don't hold one big press conference where they're all right there talking to the entire nation about what they saw why they saw it. It leads to so much speculation on bias and it leads to speculation on. How much film guys are watching it. And i think those are fair questions so i i think college football is headed for chaos and not in a good way and frankly it's one of the more disappointing things and i'll steal from michael that he really opened minds yesterday as we were talking in the halls. Espn and he said you know. Frankly what you've got an hour a lot of teams that are bad and those kids that are bad may not care about following the rules is strictly they may not care about watching and monitoring our every move is strictly so you know missouri and lsu are those kids really sitting there saying hey guys. Let's sacrifice all the joy of college because that's what we have to do to get. The games played games is going to get your butt kicked. And if you don't have that level of focus on one side of the matchup what to do to the other side of the matchup and that's just a variable. That is impossible to predict so if we're able to get enough college football plate and i don't feel as confident as some do on that. I'm curious how the committee's even gonna just slightly make decisions if there's ever been a year for playoff expansion even if you're anti playoff expansion. I don't know how the committee can make real judgment. So i you know. I wonder why they haven't looked at the possibility of at least leading more teams than and making it enjoyable plan. Here's how all know you're really invested in this. Uc thing okay. So let's let's say the raiders lose this week to to denver and the bearcats hold serve against a bad easy team for a couple of days where you just humor me and make the cincinnati. See paul your twitter avatar for you felt like our inside joke but well put. I'll put this natty up on my avatar. If they win the saturday through that a hundred percent. I don't even have to lose cincinnati win. I'm popping them up there so that they can start to get some love in the playoff conversation. See i mean this is. I couldn't like you any more than i do. I appreciate it. I'll be listening tonight. And i look forward to seeing that this weekend. Thank you so much. You're the best my friend. Follow jason on twitter at jason fitz one half of spain and fitz on espn radio. It's twenty nine away from five o'clock. Joe burrow coming up at about thirteen minutes. Richard skinner from local twelve and the bengals. Jim kelly on the bearcats at five forty working some phone calls. Trevor bauer talking about trevor. Bauer the reds threads are in this like crazy unique spot in baseball. I'm not sure it's good or bad. Maybe you can help me with that at five. Oh five but i the master starts tomorrow. Let's bet on it. My next guest will help us do that on. Espn fifteen thirty. You've been listening to football. Manetti presented by rdi corporation on espn. Fifteen thirty the official home of the bengals service kelsey chevrolet home of lifetime powertrain protection guaranteed credit approval from their family to yours for life. Kelsen chef dot com bengals have acquired defensive end to corus mckinley atlanta waived him fourth year player from ucla. Taken in the first round of the twenty seventeen draft and had a reasonably reasonably productive first couple of seasons in atlanta's six sacks as a rookie seven the following season his production over the last couple of years had dropped off. Only one sack in four games. This season Also brian allen cornerback goes to the reserve covid nineteen list cincinnati getting set to play the pittsburgh steelers on sunday. Meanwhile your injury report. By the way that tatars mckinley in terms of acquisitions you can make during the season former first rounder. That ain't bad compared to what they've been getting off the edge that has been in a season where the secondary has been all right and the linebacker play has been filled with dudes who are young. The lack of pass rush. Maybe sam hubbard coming back help that they expect him to play on sunday. Obviously we're not getting it with carlos dunlap. Kara lawson has allowed other guys to to to put pressure on quarterbacks but hasn't gotten there enough himself they need more pressure and perhaps the cars mckinley. The cove in nineteen protocols would suggest to me that he is not going to be able to play against pittsburgh but nonetheless good acquisition injury report today atkins didn't practice non injury related. No joe mixon. No dairy phillips john williams limited today trae hopkins. Michael jordan cleared and good go this afternoon. Bengals game plan from six o'clock until eight o'clock tonight on. Espn fifteen thirty national league. Cy young award winner is going to be announced for that matter. So as the american league cy young award winner but we care about is the national league because trevor bauer is one of the three finalists and some sports books have him as the odds on favorites the two time defending winner of the award jacob degrom as the favourite but nonetheless power has a chance to become the first ever reds pitcher to win the cy young award. Also the ohio state maryland games scheduled for this weekend has been canceled. The terrapins have shut down their facility. Do a elevation of covid nineteen cases and xavier university in the big east released their tip times for their games played in november and december. I'll start with three games at noon. I think this was known already. Three games at noon on the twenty fifth. Twenty six and twenty seven against oakland bradley and toledo as part of the xavier. Invitational by the way xavier. Su'a filo has also returned to practice. And jordan evans and mackenzie alexander have come off. Cove and nineteen list. Give you a lot there. Joe burrow in a couple of minutes masters starts this weekend. And i think this is going to be awesome on television first of all the colors of the course. Second of all sort of weird way. It's being shoehorned among college. Football games pro football games and obviously the sun is setting later or earlier in the day that changes the dynamic but also look. I want as many fans to be able to attend as many sporting events as possible. If there's one sport though that on television i think has benefited from. They're not being as many people on television. It's golf and so augusta national without as many people or like no people. I think is going to be pretty cam. Rogers hosted the believe in tiger woods. Podcast my go to guy when it comes to golf. Let's let's let's first talk about the course. How does this play in mid-november as opposed to early april. Thanks for having me on. Yeah it's going to be really interesting test for these guys this week. You know patrons as you mentioned so that really is actually going to affect a lot of these guys at sight lines from the t typically you can use the crowd as sort of a buffer if you will that help you with aligning your shots. And what have you. But that's one wrinkle that we have this year then you throw in the fact that we have they one hundred percent chance of precipitation tomorrow and also perhaps some thunderstorms as well just because it's warm down. There in georgia unseasonably for this time of year. So you're gonna see us lachey doggy augusta national. Which likely will favor the bombers this week for. You better out there. You're throwing wagers down. Look at the dj. The john roms of the world. Because i think they're going to have a distinct advantage not a lot of role on the fairways. This week it's gonna be all carry receptive greens as well. You could see a lot of birdies. Lot of eagles. This we know patrons but they're still will be electrity. There's no doubt jim. Rogers is with us. Believe in tiger woods podcast in the belief podcast network. He is on twitter at mr rogers. Ninety nine for the players that are are are listed as favorites. Who who stands out this weekend is having the best chance based on the course conditions and obviously how. They've been playing coming into this weekend. Yeah so. I have a lot of bombers on my list this week and forty a week as well. I don't want anybody out there to throw some cash down and get to keep their picks. I think it's going to be a very familiar leaderboard on sunday. So i'm talking about dustin johnson bubba watson jason day brooks cheka. These guys are going to be factors during the final round. I'm taking jon. Rahm to win outright and mo. If i recall correctly you had him at the previous major and at this one as well plus one thousand. I love it now. You're making me feel good there. You go five twenty third. Us open not too bad. But he's been ultra consistent and he has the game that you want this week bomber off the tee like i mentioned but really there's no weakness in his game typically when you see the bombers you think oh they're really bad with the wedges in putter not the case with jon rahm and i think he is in position to get his first major championship. Come other guys though. I do like dustin johnson a lot. I really like bubba watson. He is writing really good. Momentum with iran's already has to green jacket so he knows how to get around augusta national and jason de resume at this tournament as well please do not do not bet on bryson's shambo. I think there's too much pressure on him this week. Coming up at. Us open when everybody's talking about him. He's kind of the headline steeler of the week outside of tiger woods. I think he'll play but i don't think he will win. So that somebody office we all right. Yeah so we're we're kind of on the same page. I went rahm ten to one to win. I also went bubba watson top ten finish plus two seventy five now. I always got to take a long shot. I took a local guy. Jason coke rags xavier. University has been playing. Well top twentieth. Zo first win at the cj cup. Plus eighty five hundred. Talk me out of jason coke local guy the masters let me tell you a debutante as they say his first time at augusta national. And what is the old saying. You gotta go back to nineteen seventy nine for the last nine. A first timer has one at augusta national anthem masters. It was of course. Buzzy zeller so basically coke rackets fighting history right now now like you mentioned recent winner on the pga tour. He really is playing well. And what really stuck out to me is that he played well even after his win. Typically after a big time victory you see guys going to have a hangover a little bit but not the kids with kopech. And he's a guy by the way hits it very far off the tee. I think he should take advantage of the par five. I could see tie for seventeenth type twelfth. Finish something like that. But hey at that number mo- why not in cash down and see what happens. he didn't talk me out of it which is which is good. It's hard to believe that the guy you podcast about is the defending champion because it was a year and a half ago. That feels like five lifetimes ago. Tiger woods wins the masters. What's your forecast for this weekend. Yeah i wanna give you guys a little bit of a snapshot of how he was playing leading into the twenty nine hundred masters so he was danny strokes off the tee with its approach is around the green and putting leading into that event though he was playing well about this masters and his eight measured events leading up to this addition. He's losing strokes off the tee losing strokes around the green and then losing them putting. He's only gaining them with his iron. So that's a good thing right now but the problem is is form just isn't as good as it was leading into getting his fifth green jacket last year. So he's fighting some odd now with that said there's something about the masters that can bring out really good play and some of these golfers regardless of recent form obviously tiger woods being one of those people fred couples and other example bernard langer another example. You know we're talking about the older guard of the golfing. World and augusta national has cater to that type of player so look tiger the shot. He certainly has a shot. I didn't say he had a shot at the. Us open or the pga but at the masters at augusta national where he just one nine thousand nine months ago. Look i think he very much could be part of the conversation on the weekend. If i had to throw down and exact finishing position. I actually have him at tied for the eleventh play so i think he finished his just outside. The top ten with really is a good week considering this season so far. Fantastic style cam. Rogers believe in tiger woods. Podcast on the believe podcast network. I hope we're having the same conversation in april next year instead of november none but nonetheless. It's it's nice to chat as always man. Thanks so much appreciate it. Take care you gotta. Kim rogers believe in tiger woods. Podcast my go-to guy. When it comes to golf gambling also phil mickelson plus sixty six hundred. Two lead after round one was tied for second after eighteen holes last year eleventh in two thousand eighteen fourth in two thousand seventeen also through a dime on lee westwood plus ten thousand to win and always at the end of his career but the top thirty of his past seven prior to missing the cut last week and four top. Ten finishes in his past six masters tournaments. Thirteen away from five o'clock hour from now. Jim kelly on the bearcats. Richard skinner on the bengals and talk about the addition of tact mckinley who The bengals have acquired off. Waivers from the falcons. We'll do that coming up at five. Twenty but i ister a weekly wednesday dose of joe burrow on espn fifteen thirty cincinnati sports station. By the way on the takhar. Mckinley thing bengals have acquired off waivers from the atlanta falcons has to be in protocol for six days with a bunch of negative tests. So he's not going to be available for sunday but hopefully available for the game a week from sunday against washington mckinnon first round pick twenty six overall two thousand seventeen now joe number one overall two thousand twenty joe because he's an nfl quarterback meets with the media every single week. Nfl quarterbacks are really important meets with the media every single week and obviously story. What are the stories. This week has been cove in nineteen is affected the bengals they've had some guys who've not been able to come inside the facility there on the cove nineteen joe burrow was asked about cove nineteen hitting so close to his professional home versus force to to handle. I think we're gonna handle it well. zoom meetings and you know they're staggering us into the building for practice. So just live for us. Does it affect your preparation During the week. No with ben rothlisberger bien in ohio guy. Went to miami was a quarterback that you watch growing up maybe even emulated or admire. Yeah i mean. He's one of a handful. That i always enjoy watching and thought he was not feels like he's always in control of what's going on. Feels like he's never rushed and he sees the field so i always enjoyed watching him growing up. You have a great ability to learn from things and then not make the same mistake twice. How beneficial is it that you played baltimore in facing this pittsburgh defense. Where they so different schematically there's really does mean a hill of beans different schematically. They both bring a lot of pressure in the one similarity. So i'm gonna. I'm sure they're gonna watch game and things. They can heat me up now expecting to make some mistakes when i get pressured but not something that i just can't do and you know i'm looking forward to this game you've played you've played very well since step baltimore game anything that you took from the baltimore game that you can. Maybe build us used to this week against that. Probably comments going to like. You said. I tried he. Is there anything you took from that game this. Get the ball in the hands fast. Don't try to make a big way on every snap just execute the offense the way supposed to be executed in and the points will common Joe is it been an advantage for you and your first year to have so few people in the stadiums as far as being able to communicate and that type of thing Probably has you don't really think about it too much on. But there's no issue communicating on the field. That's for sure and that that's definitely an advantage for for us. Where did you develop your voice for your cayden and trying to draw the other off-side able to take advantage their number times this year. Zero a time when you felt like you figure some stuff out with that. Now try to make it sound like mike trying mccain sound like it always does onto whatever we're going on just trying to make it sound as similar as possible. How much can you kind of view as as a weapon. You know where the moment you to jump to try to you. Know it's just look downfield and take shots. It's advantageous for the offense if you can do that as offense. And if the line and the receivers hanging there and don't don't get any false starts you know. That's a big advantage for. The offense is is unusual year in that regard. Usually you're on the road so much noise you have to go. Silence snap count cadences any factor but on the road this year becomes an equal factor as at home. Really small crowd right. Yes that is correct. Joe one of the things that you guys have done really well. This year almost perfect fourth down conversions. What what what do you think the key to that success has been. I don't know just the next down to the job done. I think not sure what stats are on the on the year but we have been pretty good on fourth down. That's credit to the coaching staff into the players. That are That situation and we go for it on fourth family recommended every time early impressions on quentin spain. What he what do you like about him. He's a pro's pro knows exactly what he's doing. I mean can't say enough about guy gets your thursday realism plays. However many snaps he played and won the game so not been. I love working with that guy. He's a pro's pro. Like i said i'm excited to see where he's going to go from here. Two more minutes job us. Are you physically and mentally refreshed after yeah. After about two days of of no football last week i was like what am i going to do. What am i going to do with these next three three days of my life. I didn't know what to do already washed all the shows i wanted to watch. I was getting super board. So what i did. It's kind of a blur for me. But i'm glad to be back as you know that. The athens is is steeler country growing up. Can you give us an idea what steelers bengals was like. And what you think this sunday you'll be in your hometown. There are a lot of. I would say those definitely more steelers fans back home and bengals growing up. Yeah that's that was always a fun game to hear all trash talking. The in the schools elementary school high school. A good stuff so it was fun. I joe burrow earlier today with the local football media. Can't get enough. Joe burrow right bengals and steelers on sunday a lot more on the bengals. Six to eight tonight. Bengals game plan with dan and dave lamb live on. Espn fifteen thirty. And of course you can hear the game on sunday live on. Espn fifteen thirty. As well with pre game coverage starting at two 1205 a richard skinner. On a lot of different bengals things coming up at five twenty and a look ahead to uc versus ecu. With a jim. Kelly from the bearcat broadcast crew at five forty five trevor. Bauer hopes to make history tonight. Meanwhile reds probably aren't going to resign them during an interesting spot. We'll get to that next. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station. This is dan. Hoard dave lapham and me for bengals game plan tonight starting at six on the official home of the bengals cincinnati. Espn fifteen hundred hundred other looking forward to that. It's an hour away on the you're listening to. Espn fifteen thirty. Richard skinner in fifteen minutes whatnot. Forget trevor bauer. Wins the cy young. Coming up at thirty minutes. Cy young award and jim kelly on the barricades versus jimmy trainer to train to me trainer. Who's podcast. I enjoy his work. At s i enjoy made the point on twitter about twenty twenty five minutes ago baseball just sort of announces the these awards. And there's you know if you're a reds fan. You're you're paying attention to the national league. Cy young award were you watching. Mlb network last night when they announced the two managers of the year kevin cash in tampa bay. Don mattingly and miami. Were you paying attention to that. Like we keep coming up with ways the baseball can get out of its own way and many of those wards do not resonate like nfl mvp does or nba. Those are huge individual awards and it. Just maybe it's because baseball splits them into. I think baseball only have won. Mvp we've blurred the line national league american league they don't exist anymore. I just have won. Mvp make it more prestigious having to the people who always railing about participation trophies. Shouldn't want to mvp's why can't we have won mvp. We don't have a western conference. Mvp and the nba right. Why one nfl mvp. Now we we know we'll have offense player of the year defensive player of the year. We have one. Nfl head coach of the year. Correct one mvp but anyway they bury these things six pm. They headed out the gold glove awards at six o'clock on election night. I mean i'll be honest with you. And i don't talk about politics on this show at six o'clock on election night as much as i was hoping that tucker barnhart would win the award you know what i wasn't. All that focused on last tuesday gold glove awards. How do you not have some sort of huge big show on your own network. Eat up three hours. Make it big. And he'd have to do it. Virtually this year have an award. Show the nfl. Does that really well the night before the super bowl the nfl's in a bigger place. More people care about it. I think more people care about the awards baseball. Just hey here's a awards for best pitcher. Here they are at six. Pm step away from the local news and see who won the award. I just. I'm trying to help rob manfred here. I'm trying with with no success. It is very likely that tonight will be the last night that trevor bauer is connected to the reds this. I've i've said a couple of different times. This baseball season is fascinating to me and this reds off season is fascinating to me. And i don't like the reasons why these things are fascinating. The reasons have a lot to do with covid and the economy and we're the economy isn't baseball and how it's affected the reds and i don't like that but it does make things interesting. There's a handful of different types of teams in baseball right now. One would be like the pirates who chose to start a rebuild last year and then covert hit and we instantly forgot about the pittsburgh pirates. We set off in the reds picked a bad year to spend one hundred sixty four million dollars in free agency the pirates unknowingly. I guess picked a good year to rebuild. What happens when you rebuild. Fans stopped going to games. What happened in two thousand and twenty fans couldn't go to games who cares if you're rebuilding. You're getting your tv money. You're not taking a hit at the gate so you have a team like that. It's already launched into a rebuild. And then you have a team. Like i think the cubs could this team. But i think you'll have teams that go okay. The pandemic and the uncertain economy that it's created is going to give us a reason to rebuild. We're gonna basically use the conditions surrounding the pandemic to go into a rebuilt. But you know what we can cash in on the equity that we've built by winning recently. I think the cardinals and cubs could do that comes obviously have one more recently than the cardinals but the cardinals have had basically two and a half decades of success nonstop playoff teams constantly in the postseason frequent world series trips couple of championships that oh six in two thousand eleven right. You know what we've given you two and a half decades of relevance. Guess what we're going to step back. I'm not saying the cardinals specifically but it wouldn't surprise me. Wouldn't surprise me really with any team and hearing the chatter from st louis chicago. About what their front office aren't gonna do would suggest that if it's not them the teams are going to go you. What we've we've been good for a long time. I think to a degree. The red sox tried to do this with trading. Mookie betts and that's obviously pre covid. Hey we've won four world series since thousand and four. Guess what we're going to cash in that equity and we're gonna not necessarily start fresh but we're gonna make some tough economic choices. We're going to let some players get away. And in some cases rebuild well unfortunately the reds have no real recent success to cash in on they've built no equity so you have teams like that and then you have that say all right. The economy stinks. But we've got a war chest and you know who those teams are. Obviously the dodgers the yankees the red sox. We'll see if the mets are one of them. They've got a new owner. We can get by this and we're taking a hit financially but we've we just have more money. We've got to get deeper pockets. We've got a war chest and so we're better equipped to handle the massive losses that every team is suffering because we just we had more money to start with. obviously that's not the reds or you have a team that just their roster is intact the tampa bay rays say which one about losing the world series. Bring back basically the same team. We're gonna get a full season of randy arose arena. Whose last name. I love to say and temporarily forgot randy. Arosa rain is gonna come back very good team. Some guys are going to get raises by and large collectively the knocking to make all that much. Everybody's entertained control. Nobody's really do a lot of money. They're just going to bring back the same squad. Hopefully they play one hundred and sixty two games and odds on favorites to win the american league. East i'm guessing don't need to do all that much. Their team is intact. Have a really good team. And then there's a team like the reds that has an incredibly impatient fan base. That doesn't care to hear about another rebuild. That certainly doesn't care to hear about how the economy we're going to have to tap the breaks on going forward this year. Incredibly impatient fan base and a team intact. That's good okay. Decent maybe better than average possibly a playoff team but probably not good enough to win the world series. They're a very interesting unique spot. Because i think willing to bet that there are people inside. Great american ballpark. Who wanted nick on to opt out. I be willing to bet. There are people inside. Great american ballpark. Who would tell you if they could. We'd love to have somebody take mike moustakas. We'd love to be able to move on from joey votto but but we can't get a bunch of dudes they can't move some guys. Maybe have friendly contracts team from the contracts. There's a lot of guys lot of teams that would love. Louise castio a lot of teams. That were probably be willing to take a you heinous juarez. Even though he didn't have a good year last year there are some teams. That i'm sure would take two years and twenty mil left to give sonny gray but if you move on from those guys you're telling a fan base that two years ago pretty much threw up. Its middle finger like we talk about reds fan in patients. That's not like emotional. That's financial in two thousand eighteen. The reds had their lowest attendance in thirty four years. So you've got a marketplace that has already fallen out of the habit of going to baseball games. A very impatient fan base. That i'm not sure is going to put up with another rebuild. Any have at the same time roster. That's intact that you probably can't got it yet if you make it any better. It's going cost you money that you don't have as much of a really interesting spot but what looms over all of it to me is if you choose to not go for it this year if you choose to take a shortcut if you choose to simply hope that the rest of the teams in baseball l. and it just sorta leaves you as the last team standing if you choose not to be somewhat aggressive an aggressive in this offseason is different because i feel like everybody in the sport is gonna wait. We don't know how many games are going to be played. We don't there's going to be fans in the stands we we don't know how many teams are going to be in the postseason next year but the reds are in this weird. I think really interesting spot. The teams that have started rebuilds that already launched into one. They'll continue there are teams that are going to sort of decide to use the pandemic to cut costs but at least are fans have been given something recently cubs a primary example. There's teams with deep pockets. Threads ain't one of those teams with a really really really good roster intact. Think the reds have a pretty good roster intact but it's not like tampa bay reds. Have a team that has holes. They've lost money but fans are impatient. The position that puts them into navigate. This offseason is to a degree on enviable and they are likely to lose their best performer. From this past season now what they do with that money remains to be seen but if they just pocket if they just use it to offset some losses boy. That's going to be hard to explain to people who are tired of waiting for you to win at the same time. It's not my money. I didn't just lose sixty million dollars. It's easy for you and to sit here and go. You gotta try to win. Gotta go for it got to win the world series tired of waiting very easy for me to say very easy for you to say and that's what i feel the same time. It's hard to not acknowledge. They did lose a lot of money and they don't have a war chest but if you saw this team try to use the pandemic as an excuse to rebuild i. I'm not sure they'd get you back. Just say that. Based on what i watched happened with the relationship between the team and the fan base two years ago eight sixteen after five five one. Three seven four nine fifteen thirty bengals have made. I think pretty good acquisition today to cars mckinley. Look we're not talking about an all pro game changer. A guy who didn't play to the level of a first round pick in atlanta but for the most part better and perhaps more productive still than anybody else. They're using on the outside right. Now they're getting sam hubbard back. Mckinley cannot play this sunday. But still a lot to sort through with richard skinner from local twelve as the bengals. Good set to take on the steelers. This coming sunday. We'll chat with richard next on. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station football in the brought to you in part by cme pipeline and consumer bret baier and by skyline chili on espn fifteen. Thirty the official home of the bengals this is. Espn fifteen thirty. I'm oleg richard. Skinner joins us every wednesday. Did was he. On the show last wednesday when i wasn't here and ask him. He's on twitter at local twelve skinny. You could read them at local twelve dot com. Listen to the skinny podcast. Which i always like it when they answer one of my questions. How you doing. I'm doing well how i am. I am really well tack mckinley. Get him off. Waivers from the falcons. This is a good thing right. It's not a bad thing First round pick not too long ago twenty. Seventeen it kind of fits the john. Ross mold right. We were kind of begging the bengals to try to get something back for john. Ross and maybe a team go kick the tires on. John and getting happened And in this case the falcons just decided to move on from him. I mean that's seventeen and a half sacks that's not great for a first round pick and twenty seventeen but it obviously shows. He's got the quarterback more than more than once in his career. So yeah i. It doesn't hurt jumping from a financial standpoint if it doesn't work out the end of this year. He's on his rookie contract. You let him go on his merry way and If not maybe re for the future so now. I i don't think it hurts. It's it's certainly worth kicking tires on. All right he's not gonna play against pittsburgh because he got a game in the protocol but hopefully good to go for a week from sunday against washington. Sam hubbard is back so now now that pass rush is going to improve right. It wasn't exactly getting home with fam. That's not going to happen. That's kind of across the board right. They had eleven facts the first half of the season. I actually question number. I thought for some reason they either on pace for twenty two. If you just do the simple map. I thought that's gotta be a team record low and i found out it actually wasn't one of the team somewhere along the way. One of those banned awful teams in the ninety two thousand seventeen sacks but That's bobby bennett issue. They've had hard time getting the quarterback. But i mean this was a guy who was one of your starters. And it's nice to have one of your starters back i if he's gonna play. I mean he hasn't been put the active roster yet. But i think all systems are go for that to take place coming probably on saturday. The official move so yeah. I mean getting started back. Sure doesn't hurt. It's it's probably a better option than the imani bledsoe's of the world pick no money. But i hope one day. The standard is higher than a mani. Bledsoe that would that would be nice. What's the combination going to be on the offensive line on sunday. I'm writing about that as we speak. I mean i'll give you my best. Yes and it's only that because you know you still don't know what's happening right tackle. We'll bobby hardy back to play for. Johnston get outta the kobe reserve list And even if he does will that be enough to get him to be able to play. So then i'll go with this. This is again one man's best. Guess i'm gonna say you're left. Tackle is going to be joan williams. Who looks like he's trending towards being back. I think quinton spin it left guard but michael jordan's back and healthy and they love him so michael jordan and trade back at center. I think it's probably too early to plug xavier. Su'a filo back in the lineup and right guard. So with alex redmond there and i will go with akeem adedeji at right tackle as we as we. Sit but yeah. It is a jigsaw puzzle. And i guess the good thing is you know even some of the guys. I mentioned if it's not quinton spain okay. It's michael jordan's started getting a young guy that maybe isn't quite ready for yet. But he's done some decent things and they love him You know it's not even. And it's fred johnson who played pretty well in that group last week and and whatnot so i mean it's certainly now that we're putting some guys in that you're like man that's a downgrade pogue guys know but these guys had some level of success and they've gotten a little bit better so yeah it is. It's a total jigsaw puzzle. There's no doubt about that. This is something tony. Pike and i have talked about joe mixing before he got hurt. It's it's not like his production was off the charts. He was great against jacksonville. And perhaps you know through very little fault of his own was great against anybody else. We'll we'll see if he goes on sunday but the identity of this team is joe burrow. It's joe burrow's brain. It's joe burrow's arm. It's the offense. Being all about. Joe burrow whenever joe mixing comes back and hopefully that is on sunday. How do they him into an offense that doesn't have to be as run centric previously. Why think eventually you're going to see teams going to have to adjust to the joe burrow situation. Half the white in the box and then joe mixing. We'll probably have a chance to have had better games down the road. He wasn't awful. I mean he ever seventy one yards per game or seventy five dollars per game in the six games he played and yet you're right. Some of that production was in was in one game But you know. I think what you'll see. That's that's the end of the yang that you're hoping for a great balance of you wanna take this away. We've got that you wanna take that away we've got this and so yeah. I definitely go girl. Lighten the box a little bit. And i think you see some production from joel mix and then teams are gonna have to go. I can't let joe mixing and it's still grow slinging around so you get the best of all worlds here with with joe coming back That's it though. I mean the offense hasn't obviously not miss a beat without him. That's the you paying for a reason. And he's a really good back and he's a very productive back and he's he's your one dynamic piece on offense other than joe burrow but in in in short doses bernard can really you something in a lot of ways is a fast pass catcher. He's one really well at times Between the tackles so Yeah you know. I do think yoga's incorporate back in the mix when he comes back and i think it just it's another weapon at your tack. If you're ever going to be taken seriously as the head coach of the quarterback of the bengals you have to at some point. Beat the pittsburgh steelers you have to do it on a somewhat regular basis. If you're a coach who hasn't won games yet you have to start beating teams that you're supposed to after this week. They have four consecutive games against teams that are combined eleven and twenty three. And that doesn't count the texans who they play week sixteen. Who are two and six for for us to stop talking about whether or not zac. Taylor is the guy. Do you put a win total. You put a win total on that. Dsa they've got to get to sixty say they gotta finish four and four. They've gotta win one against pittsburgh or baltimore. What has to happen. In the second. Half for those conversations to cease minimum of three and five and i get a meets midseason piece last week and and and said you know i think they can go four. I think that's fair to ask for foreign four Because you're right that four games such you're talking about miami's probably playing better than we wanna give them credit. We continue to think of the team. That was tanking all last year and suddenly there in the playoff mix and feels like that. That happened almost too quickly But that's part of that four game. Mix you're talking about and you're right and the texans and you get the feelers coming back here You know you're going to be favoring probably three of those games and probably flight underdogs to in in in a couple of them. The the the miami game and then probably the game at houston. Which means you have a chance to win. I think three and five is minimum against that. And i think you've got a chance to get the foreign four and if you've got to foreign for anything better than you really you gotta really feel like you're turning the corner at at that point especially you know heading down the stretch. Wanna throw the texans win or archie. When in there you go four and four you can hardly say what five or four hundred last nine and played pretty. Well maybe in a couple of those losses to good teams like pittsburgh and baltimore if you do But you're right. That's that gives you taking seriously You gotta you gotta beat your rival on occasion and you got to the beat the teams you're supposed to be And maybe when some of those tossup games along the way too. And yeah. I i think anything less than three mo- would be really disappointing especially when it sounds like feel. They're turning the corner right. I mean maybe. We're all giddy over the tennessee. Lean into a bye week and maybe they are to but you know if you're if you're gonna talk that way and feel that way then let's go proven to go beat pittsburgh on sunday. I don't need to train wreck. I saw against baltimore but i do. Need those other cancel games. You mentioned the win some of those. You need to 'cause you're you're doing some of those. How how has the teams. I intersection with covid. Nineteen affected preparation. Is there any reason to think right now. And obviously the things changed by the minute with with where we are but is there any reason to think they're not gonna play this game on sunday. No yeah unless you got some kind of crazy outbreak from either team feels like kinda that parts nipped in the bud a little bit. I know that the bengals have kept the corner are the defensive backs away from the facility to try to kind of put them to the side. 'cause there's been a couple of them. There was a practice guy that got put on there today. also winston rose got put on that list today against the came off which is a good thing. so yeah it sounds like that kind of went through that room a little bit and they're trying to separate and isolate them. They've done that with some other position groups as well Yeah pittsburgh's perspective. There's been nothing new. Since since ben in the other players got put on the on the list and They don't have it. they were around vance mcdonald. Who did So yeah. I don't think so more i unless they got some kind of crazy situation thursday or friday and outbreak in pittsburgh primarily. Now i think it gets it gets played. Big question is played with without ben. Yeah no that's that's and i wanted to be played with ben. Look i don't want to deal with coding. I don't wanna play against mason rudolph measuring stick. I want to go against the hall of famer. I think that's absolutely. That's that's that's exactly right if you wanna if this is a litmus test for how far this team has come with baltimore yeah you don't wanna win seventeen to thirteen or twenty one to seventeen over. Mason rudolph the duck man or whoever else is quarterback. I mean he wants to be over bending the main guys. So yeah i i sometimes think obstacle you gotta do it. That's not gonna prove anything that you're making strides. You make striving to go. Beat him with their best. So yeah i mean does play to. You have been covering and talking about sports in this town for a long time back in the late. Two thousands when you're watching and do kway watch the ball sail over his head against opposing offenses. Did you think you would be a central figure in a major political scandal. Incredible i do a double take when i saw that second Yeah i mean. I guess poodle's the right. I mean that was probably got something to do. Come down unshackled. Trying to tackle jerome. What's funny is the very first place. I saw the story. I saw his name and didn't say former bangle. And i was waiting in a waiting room with somebody who said to me. Do you think it's the former bengal. I'm like my man. I'm i'm i'm getting write a lot of waste. I'm i'm going to bet there at least related. I appreciate your input on that man. Thanks so much. Richard skinner you can read them at local twelve dot com and follow him on twitter at local twelve skinny. Mike dewine talking to my television right now. Did he get his hair colored. That is not the same hair color he had when i was watching him on a daily basis back in the spring is he about to shut everything down. That is Look far. I don't have any hair so i'd colored if i could not the hair color i remember. Maybe it's a different time. He's sort of looks like he took a shower on seinfeld. When the shower heads were emitting soft. Water and her hair looked at what he looks like. I have to go jim. Kelly is going to talk about football coming up in twelve minutes. Bearcats get set to attempt to extend their record to seven or no their last regular season home game at nippert stadium. That conversation at five forty five on espn fifteen thirty cincinnati. Sports station been listening to football in the name brought to you in part by rivers sportsbook on espn fifteen thirty. The official home of the bengals symphony of morning sports a symphony symphonic. What do we have two cars mckinley. Bengals get him on waivers from the foulkes from the falcons who was drafted in the first round. The two thousand seventeen out of ucla do pretty productive first couple of seasons in atlanta his last two not so much in addition to that roster moves cincinnati placing practice squad. Cornerback brian allen on the reserve slash couvert nineteen bengals. Did come back to work today to get set for sunday's tilt against the pittsburgh steelers a lot on the bengals tonight on bengals game plan from six until eight o'clock tonight live on. Espn fifteen thirty. In addition to all of that you want the injured report. Don't you i will. I will give it to you. We'll give you the injury report as we get set for sunday here. It no gino atkins none injury related. No bobby hart nino joe. Mixon foot no dairies. Phillips groin john williams limited in his participation with a stinger in addition to that xavier. Su'a filo has been cleared to come back to practice was placed on. I r on september fifteenth evanson. Mackenzie alexander have been taken off the covid nineteen list. They ever taken practice. Squad quarterback winston rose and put him on the cove in nineteen list. Cincinnati now with five players on the cove nineteen list. I mentioned allen before rose margus hunt fred johnson. And trae wayne's the game is at four twenty five on sunday live on. Espn fifteen thirty. Also the national league. Cy young award winner will be announced at six o'clock on. Mlb network perfect placement for an award. You want people to make a big deal out of trevor. Bauer has to outperform in the voting. You darvish and jacob degrom. Xavier released its november december basketball schedule with tip times with the exception of the ucla. Game will be played at you. See what we call it. The skyline chili crosstown shootout. Bearcats still have not released their schedule and the ohio state game against maryland is not going to happen scheduled for this weekend. There's been an elevation in the number of covid nineteen cases among maryland's football team and athletic department. So the game between the and the terrapins is not going to happen and There would be your local sports headlines as service of kelsey chevrolet home of lifetime powertrain protection and guaranteed credit approval from their family to yours for life to kelsey chef dot com. We make an open and shut and my money would be on. Trevor bauer to win the cy young award. I think he's deserving. I think he should win the award. I think first of all for me he pitched in what was at the time. And i think frankly still remains the reds biggest game of the season. Which was that game on that. Wednesday night against the milwaukee brewers when he was just lights out on three days rest. And i mean he was awesome across the board. This season awesome across the board. This and led led the national league in a billion different categories. Whip hits per nine innings. Walk to strikeout ratio was absurd. One seventy three. He was awesome. Jacob degrom faced better offenses. It's fair to say you. Darvish obviously had an outstanding season. If you're to break this down specifically you could. You could make a case for either guy. I lean trevor. For the reasons i just outlined also led an era plus in addition to leading era to me though what what sort of cinched it for him was the winning remember. The postseason is not a consideration. Was that lights out. Performance against the milwaukee brewers if he wins the award remember this but frankly if he doesn't win the award remember this say what you want about dick williams his regime but they will have effectively flipped homer bailey useless homer bailey who nobody wanted and who they would have gotten rid of had they not been able to trade. The effectively flipped homer bailey for trevor bauer. Now there were some other particulars involved. Obviously the four guys from the dodgers they got for homer bailey and They also in order to get. Trevor bauer had to move taylor who may still be an excellent major leaguer but that deal basically for me was homer bailey for trevor bauer in an four months of week and not a whole lot from the other guys. You know kyle farmer useful utility guy pretty true move when you think about it you see bearcats. Tried to improve to seven or no on a friday night. We'll talk about their defense. Their quarterback play in the two thousand twenty versus two thousand nine comparisons with jim kelly next from six bengals game plan and just under twenty minutes live on. Espn fifteen thirty. Uc is going to play. Ecu final regular season game of the year at nippert stadium kickoff at seven thirty game will air on seven hundred. Wwl w starting at seven. Oh five dan hor. Jim kelly and tony pike with the game. I'll be there as well. Jim joins us. Now it's Let me start with desmond richer because you know three games ago. I'm wondering should they make a change. What have been bryant's available against. Usf he was not they stay with. Dez luke fickle has been defiant. He's sticking does that move is paid off. We should all get off. We should get off his back now. Right yeah i think so. No i was. I was the net cap to going after the usf game and You know. I guess the feeling was going into the smu game if With any type of struggle whatsoever for days that they would go ahead and make a switch that didn't happen had the game of his career against smu at least to that point and then followed that up with another game of his career against memphis. Pretty darn good one here three weeks in a row now this past weekend against houston so he's playing really really well and you know it's it's Coach pickle is always trying to point out that he's he's a guy that really likes perfection. He presses real hard and he was trying to impress robin. Well i think you know that had something to do with it but at the same time they made some changes in the offensive line. That opened up the running game when the running game opened up that opened up the passing game in quite honestly he could have thrown for four hundred yards against memphis. But that's just not the bearcat style. But i have to tell you you know since he. Smu game desert or is played football based on the way he's playing right now and perhaps they get an opponent. They can do that. Do this such a thing against on on friday. But but how do they expand upon what they've been able to tap into. Well good question. I think there You know certainly the passing game. Short passing game in particular Is one that they excel at. They've tried to go up top a lot this year not been overly successful with it. Lose alec peers Their leading receiver from last year. Who got back just a couple of games ago. Then got hurt again. Hurts them a little bit as well. But i think they can. I think they can throw the ball around enough to really keep things opened up for the running game. And what we solid. Jared jared ducks last week and the weekend two weeks prior to that at smu and then Ford was able to do And not quite honestly Maybe even even more so there's been ritter with his legs that running game as really really taken off and one is feeding the other right now and very quietly without a lot of flash and sizzle. They're up to forty points a game for an offense and i know i. I heard a little bit of you and tony going at it on monday. I think it was regarding thousand. You're going to be asked to weigh in. Don't worry point being that team on offense and a lot of sizzle I mean they they could light it up and you know they were fun to watch and some of those plays were incredible. This team doesn't show you that flash on offense but all of a sudden you look down there. You know their third in the league in points in the league that scores points and they're just a hair under forty points a game and Not to mention the yard to go with that of there as well And you know not not to jump on your bandwagon but this team has a lot better defensive through nine. yeah no they. They have to have a lot better defenses than most teams in college football. Let's let's so you're never you're never gonna have me go on the whiteboard and dropped defensive schemes. But i know this i watch a lot of college football and what i see on that side of the ball is coordinators. Sometimes getting too cute. Maybe because they have to try to come up with a pass rush trying different things. Moving is all over the place putting doing some things in the secondary that seem exotic with cincinnati. I don't see that and marcus freeman deserves and gets a lot of credit for for the job. He's done with that defense and certainly recruiting but men when you have the personnel. He has all you gotta do lineup in play and i know it's not that simple but it's got to be such a luxury for a defensive coordinator who is said often. Look i don't want to try to out anybody. I i really do. Just want to let them and play. It's got to be such a luxury for marcus. Freeman any defensive coordinator who has personnel. And they don't have to get to cute on game day because this team certainly doesn't yeah. No you're right. I mean they play a three man front but they can go to deep there. So you're looking at six different guys that are in there pretty much the entire game until the last three weeks. It's got in garbage time where they can get some of the younger guys in there But you know they've been able to get to the quarterback with three now they didn't this past week But i think the goal was more to just contain the offensive line. make them use macs protection. Met the secondary in the linebackers do their job and they were successful at even though. I don't think they had a sack against houston they might have got the clayton tune once or twice But it is a nice luxury in the linebacker is the one area the second level. We're coming into the year with like way. Oh you know. They lost a lot last year. They're going to struggle here. Well you know they haven't They really haven't they. Don't go quite as deep there. But they've been able to be very very consistent there all white You know who was the one guy from last year is just playing lights out then you get to the back end and oh my god i mean they can go seventy five guys in there most of the time. I shouldn't say that they can go. Eight or ninety and not really drop off a lot and you know you got a guy J von hicks Who was second team all league last year. Who's struggling this year to get on the field You know they are just. They are loaded on the defensive side. You couple that with a guy. Like marcus freeman not to mention a defensive staff. And get something. Coach fickle the other day. That greg scruggs who is now the d line coach who this is his first year on the field. Really coaching these guys. He's been on the staff but more as a quality control assistant nonetheless. He was great player here in town at saint accent while on the liberal had a great career and played in the nfl for a long time so knows what he's doing for a first year guy on the field. He's really got this defensive line plan will not to mention you know the rest of the positions on defense they are just. That's one heck of a defense looking at some of their stats. I mean you know. They're averaging Ten points any giving up ten points under the even the second place team in the league there you know it's absolutely they're giving up thirty thirty five forty yards less a game rushing than anybody else in the league so i mean they are just some superior right now And you know they've got to keep that up this team. East carolina that last year did move the ball on a man score points. So i don't think you'll see a repeat of that this week. All right since you brought it up the two thousand nine versus two thousand and twenty thing. I view this the same way. I do any conversation about an nba player being compared to michael jordan. The mere fact that we're having the conversation is enough. The two thousand and nineteen is the gold standard for uc football. I think you would agree with that or always has been the mere fact that we would agree that we can start to have. That conversation is a credit to this team. I as dan hoard said tony. I'm not ready to pass the torch to me. I'm i'm still leaning. Oh nine but man that two thousand twenty team has agreed defense. And i could see myself getting to a point where i would say the best one. They've had well. I would tell you right now. If i was to have cast a vote right this second i would agree with you. I would take two thousand nine takes. You know it's just the sheer fact of them going twelve no in the regular season and and we know that can't happen this year from a number standpoint. It can't be twelve no stranger but this team can run the table and they're going to be tested here in the next couple of weeks And if they can run the table and end up pano take them into a conference championship with the two thousand. Nine team didn't have that luxury of playing that game. You know maybe ended up eleven to know and go to a bowl game. B twelve no Yeah maybe you know we get to the point where we're really starting to compare them and i don't think there's a huge comparison because like i said this offense is is really different to watch But they're doing some really nice things right now on the defensive side. No question that the you know that this twenty twenty team on the defensive side is ahead of where the two thousand and nineteen was. I'll be at times that that defense in two thousand nine Particularly the last couple of drives at pittsburgh well it lasts drive at pittsburgh. You know they they. They could play too but they they didn't have the numbers they didn't have the stats at these guys. Have you know this point. And what appears that they will finish the year at twenty twenty defensive squad and i will see you on friday. Thank you as always jim. Kelly has the game along with dan. Hoard tony pike and myself friday. Seven o'clock on seven hundred wwl w with kick off at seven thirty. We have to go. Dan horn and dave lapham have bengals game plan for the next two hours. Enjoy it. it's a great show. Have a great night and thanks so much for tuning in thanks attaran for producing and thanks to austin elmore for emotional support. This is espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports stations. Zenica want breakfast guys. let's go. I'm leaving from mcdonald's and five seconds. Why the breakfast impede meal. It's only at mcdonald's where there's a meal for every morning and nothing says morning like a classic sausage mcmuffin with egg right. Now get this all time favorite for just two bucks on the one. Two three dollar menu price and participation may vary cannot be combined with any other offer combo meal vodka.

bengals pittsburgh steelers Espn zac taylor football ben rothlisberger pittsburgh joe burrow Joe burrow Tony larussa gregg marshall aj green espn nfl cincinnati baltimore pat brennan Bengals Cincinnati sports station ohio
EP 13: Practice Schmactice

Or Not!

57:36 min | 2 months ago

EP 13: Practice Schmactice

"Well what are we going to talk about today. Oh every week. It's a stroke of beautiful struggle. This is podcast. Do friends catching up. Listen or not. well. I guess we should. I guess we can always start off with A new york times question and then kind of see where that leads us. I did actually like what we did last week with the random questions. We've got to know each other more. We have one two three four five questions left and set one. And i hate all of them. I know i'm not looking forward. To which are. We can't like any of these questions i feel like. Do you wanna do number. Do you want to skip to the second section. Maybe we can do that. I guess we have to finish this. I'm not looking forward to when we do take four minutes and tell your partner your life story as much detail as possible. I maybe we should skip that for a special episode. Yeah like also four full minutes me just talking about my life. I don't want to go that deep minute per ten years ago i mean no. I'm not. I'm not for oh man okay. Should we do number three. I guess we can go in order. Yeah now that we've kind of randomized at all. Yeah number three number three before making telephone call to you ever rehearse what you're going to say why i do Especially if it's work related. I always do because. I have to be prepared. I don't wanna be taken off guard. But i always just practice saying things in While i'm like getting ready. If i know like i'm gonna have a meeting or something. I always like envision. Like i was talking to myself in the mirror in the mirror because like when i'm getting ready it's in front of the mirror like the only mirror i have in. My home is in the bathroom. So when i'm like brushing my teeth and like washing my face i'll just like talk to. Oh i guess. I don't actually look at the mirror. I'm like do. I look at myself in no. I don't look at myself. I just like this is like when i said i think sometimes i read this because i just always randomly start talking to myself. I do that too. Yep do you practice what you're going to save her non where calls. I'm trying to think. Because i i never planned to call anyone when i call them and like. I'm always surprised when people call me. So i don't think i have time to practice but i guess if i was going to. What type of calls do i make personal calls. I definitely don't rehearse what i'm going to say if i'm calling my family. Yeah that'd be weird. And i don't really call people. I definitely don't practice before. We have our call. Because then i would be better prepared for this same same. Yeah but how about you. I definitely do practice. I remember someone saying that. People have our generation. Gen millennials since we're so used to texting we don't know how to talk on the phone and it's so true because i remember when i had my first job i did not know how to answer the phone. What to say so definitely for work calls. I do practice Even for personal calls. Or like say. I'm calling to like customer service or i don't know any call me. I definitely practice now. That i think about it. I don't really because the calls that make four work. If they're like. The usual calls. That i make i have done them so many times that i don't have to practice but if it's like a meeting that isn't like a weekly meeting or something. I don't think i'll i do practice. If i'm mike going to fire someone or like talk to them about like what isn't okay to do at work or just like if i have an issue with someone. I always practiced that before. I talked to them. Because i don't want to come off as like or i'm not it takes a while to get to the firing stage like you. Don't just fire someone off of one thing but usually when you're struggling with someone you have to have those talks and i'm practice those before And personal calls. I feel like practice before. I'm going to go out and meet someone. If like a i i. I'm meeting them for specific reason to talk about something specific. Maybe if it's like to talk about something specific or to meet up. I think i would say it's just like hey let's hang out or let's countryman the or let's grab i don't practice those right because it's so hard to think about those types of things when you get asked these questions because i know i talk to myself and i know i practice but i don't know what it is when i'm trying to think back on it but i do know i practice especially when it's major things or something that's important but casual things with friends. I don't know. I think i practice if i'm like. Oh i'm having an issue with this person and I don't know if i have to. If i gonna come up or if i have to tell them or something that i think all like practice i do practice after the fact like after i. I've had an argument or anything like anything. That didn't go the way i wanted to go. Whatever i always come back and be like. I should have said this practice conversation. Yeah as if it's going to happen again that fast you can't fix it Can't change what you said. Have you ever had a situation where you were kind of thrown into the wolves. Because i remember when i was Just started working and my we. My boss had picked up this new project from amazon but she sent us the screener like the entire office. The screener so that we could discuss it before our call with amazon and she asked us all for thought so i emailed her my thoughts and she apparently really loved it because she ascended to the entire company. Like this is like an interesting thought from this person. This employee and so. I was embarrassed. But i didn't really think anything of it. And then when we hopped onto the call. She literally was like oh. This employee had interesting thoughts about this show. And she's like will you expand on. Yeah and i was like it was like i was not expecting it because my immediate supervisor was was like oh this is like she like. You're not going to have to talk on this call. So don't worry about a whatever. And i was like not even prepared for anything. And they threw me to the wolves. And i was terrible on it and relational stumbling and my boss had to step in and be like oh like and then just divert the topic but a situation like that. I've definitely had situations where the meeting was just like i didn't think i would have to talk. It is going in a direction that i like didn't think it was going or whatever and i am like other work while i'm listening in. And then they go and then how about you and that or like and then throw ins me. And i have no idea what what they were talking about the attention and then i have to bullshit and i especially with zoom calls. You can see in their face that they know that you gonna live or something. But i don't think anyone's ever like actually notice 'cause alec know what the call is a bow. But i didn't know exactly what specific thing they asked me. Yeah so i'll just kind of say something vague. And or i got if it's with people uncomfortable with i'll just say oh say that again i have. I wasn't listening. Sorry i missed that. But sometimes when it out of the blue alfred to say like oh sorry. I didn't get that bad connection i like. I don't all the same stumble that's definitely happened. That's embarrassing but oh man. I feel like when you were saying that. It just reminded me of school or college when you talk about your assignments and stuff like when a professor calls on you raising your hand like come on man especially it does not do this. That always look for the person that they think isn't paying attention because they all the not like come on man. We're all adults here. We try to teach or are we trying to embarrass me. Oh man so if any of our listeners are still in college or still in school. Things like that still happen work life. Don't be afraid to call it out. It deserves to be called out and it's also especially when that's not something that's normally in your job titles like sometimes. Maybe i've been that person where i've been like. Oh that was interesting talking. I can see that they were taken off guard and all like after the call be like. Oh sorry if i took you like i took you off guard or whatever and they'll just fine but there there have been you know production assistants or assistant who have just been like whoa or just like coordinators. Anyone like usually doesn't talk in the meetings. Usually the only people that talk in our meetings are like the director and the executive producers or something so anyone else that ever gets a chance to speak their own is taken off guard or like if it's a creative call and then they all of a sudden throw it to accounting or like someone else when it's like. This is a creative call. I was not expecting to be called on at all or like production or whatever because there have been calls where albion with a network and it's creative call but their accounting and their post even all the other people are gonna call and i'm just thinking are they gonna talk or what what are they. Are they going to ask them thing. Should i have included our posts. But yeah that panic is the worst chapel. it's also when there are some networks and it was like. Oh here's the agenda or like make sure there's an agenda before the meetings and then it works out for like the first couple of meetings but like reoccurring meetings. The agenda is never there anymore like no one knows. It's just going to be like quick updates or whatever but it's yeah that's why it's good to have someone who sends out agendas. I've been working on a few projects. There's one project where this person always sends out agendas and i'm like oh this is great but i also stopped reading them after a while. But i know it's credence useful because I know it's there for me to Refer to yeah but yeah oh man we're calls and zoom calls and meetable terrible terrible terrible but you. Are there any other things that you practice before you do them. I'm trying to think like if you were to break up with someone or outbreak with them but like now you practice that for sure thousand person thousand percent and even when i do practice it still off turn. Yeah it never goes the way that you planned it and it's total. I had these times where it would be like a break up. And then i'll come out of it being like how i was so sure that the or like if i'm trying to quit and i practised quitting and then i come out of it still with the job and thinking i practice. It was like a done deal. This is going to happen and then you come out of it. It's like how did that turn around staying longer or whatever it is you know or staying in this relationship for all that it just. It never works out and it's like it's actually you should. I shouldn't be surprised when it doesn't work out because it never does but every time. I am surprised that it didn't work out the way i played because i'm just like all this time it's perfect. It's going to work more. just go into it thinking. Oh this isn't gonna work. But i always still go in optimistic like this is going to be the time it works you kind hearted. Oh i don't think that south started software. yeah. I don't have that issue. I do have an issue of just running out of things to say as i'm trying to do it and then i just ended up getting frustrated but i don't usually give in to like if i'm planning on quitting are planning on breaking up with somebody. Yeah yeah yeah. But i definitely do practice. I guess the other thing that i would practice would be. If i'm which is something that i learned recently is to type up a letter before you write it before. You handwrite it. 'cause i i don't know why i never did that. Its smartest thing to do. But i would always just like think it in my brain and then write it down and be like oh shoot. I wrote a piece of paper. Yeah we'll just cross it out and put a sticker hit or whatever or like draw heart a picture over it but that blew my mind. When i was like i could just write it online or electron in my notes. Yeah yeah and then. I have it and then i can just close smart and it's just it makes so much sense that i i was this year's old when i found out. Try to be hip. I do these days like this many years old or today. Here's old today years old. That was it. I'm not even hip enough to know what it is. I was today years old. What i found out yeah Do you write a lot of handwritten. No only special people now. I haven't received any sorry not special full. It's specifically when i'm giving a gift. I guess like a holiday gift or a birthday gift the issue it's only been to like co workers and stuff. Actually i had my best friend and whenever we would travel we would write letters to each other and then come back and like handover like a packet of letters. We wrote to each other. We were away instead of like mailing them as we're there with a stack it'd be like okay here all letters. Here's everything you need to know about my trip you would do that. I never used to write letters. I guess i guess. I'm really bad at gift-giving i mean letters are kind of definitely personal yet. Because it's also it takes more time so it it's like the person receiving it will probably feel like they're special when you give it to them. And i don't want anyone to think that i think they're special I want everyone to think that. I think everyone will. Oh okay i mean or dirt on you kind of always go to the negative. No i'm trying to put my mindset into you trying to do you write letters. I used to guess Like you did with your friend. My friend and i used to write postcards to each other and send them recreation postcard. Stop doing that. I my friend went to the army and when he was in training camp he asked new sandham letter. So i do that but like cards. I stopped giving cars. I don't know why. I think i should start doing that. i've kept every single card. I've ever received in my life. Same yeah five hi five. Those are things will. I mean not every single one. Sometimes i received stock cards from like a boss or some. Oh yeah it's like your name. I don't keep those. Yeah keep anything that has Some thought and hand written next to it. Those keep for sure and our friends. Mutual friend used to make her own cards and they looked professionally. Made thanks. you're just so good at it. Those i would like. If i could do that i would do that for everyone. What other things do you practice before you do them. I don't really Like if i'm nervous about something I if i have to do it. All practice like public speaking Yes yes but. If i don't have to do it like my friend She's a terrible dancer. And i remember when we were younger. We'd like go to a club or something and she would practice dancing. And i was like. I don't wanna do that. So i'm just not gonna dance. You know what i mean. So i just don't do it but i know people that practice dancing or no practice dancing interesting. I have a question for you if you were ever to get nominated for an award. Would you practice your speech hell. Yeah even if you don't know if you're gonna win or not yeah Would you have it written down and pull it out when you get up or own. what would you do. I would cause all the best or memorable speeches to me or either like very practice. Like it's like a skit reich. I remember like julia louis. Dreyfus has the best love because she's great. She's so great. Like francis mcdormand also amazing but also the other end of the spectrum. Are those unexpected ones. Like halle berry sandra. Oh like i remember one. Halle berry was like breaking down. Because you lied lied. That one. But i'm sure. Oh yeah it was like a wild. I think it was for. I don't remember what it was for but those are like the most memorable one so the genuinely surprised people than one. Yeah yeah. i don't think i'd be able to pull that off Phoebe waller bridge is. I don't know blood her. Just the look on her face when she liked. Won all those awards for a fleabag. I just love you. Yeah so heartfelt. But i definitely practice maybe not practice but i definitely have something so that i could remember her because i always have trouble with fluidity and remembering what to say next and i if i have something that'll trigger my thought process on what to say i probably have like a bunch of lake trigger words written down to kind of but that's about it. Yeah i. I've been thinking about or just now. I don't know why said i thought now. Would you write a list of people. You wanna thank because. I feel like acceptance speeches. Now thank people lesson. It's like more about like explained like talking about something meaningful. So i feel like the listing. A bunch of people that you wanna thank is not boring. It's boring and like everyone knows. Yeah you're gonna think out agent yeah and crew and obviously The people at home and the people who Like everyone's going to do that like let's just assume that everyone's going to do not do any more like -ssume that you're thankful already for those people right. 'cause it's time for you to because even when like especially when you're the first to receive that like when director woman wine and it's just like it's a just listing. People is taking up that time that you can saying some like really meaningful things than just like heartfelt things about You know how historic it is and just hang your experiences. Which are the things. I wanna hear about to. You know. i don't wanna hear it in the behind the scenes after the awards like interview that you're giving like. I'm watching the awards ceremony. I don't want to hear of names. I would prefer that you you know. Continue to entertain us. Your really just have like a heartfelt moment of feeling that moment right right yes your job about you would you practice. If you're i think. I would just because if i do win. It's going to be a big thing especially the first time for sure i don't if you continue to keep winning. I don't know if you would continue to always have a speech prepared. But i think the first time for sure because you never know what's going to happen again. It's a big moment for you. So you wanna make sure that you say things and you present yourself in a good way. I worked with someone who would always feel like awards. There's just so like. I don't wanna be that that always like cares about kind of stuff and then on the way to the award ceremony. They'd be like they would keep saying that in the go. Okay but should i say this and they they basically practicing with us. What else should i say. Inches like in the same breath as saying so. These awards shows are so down and like a war. Like i don't care about the awards. I just care about the content and then yeah like what should i say this. And then we'll stop and then they'll be like okay. So what about this. I thought we established that we awards are too too much and just go out there. Be thankful whatever you might win. Who cares but then obviously you do care about how you're presented. Yeah i feel like if. I were to be nominated more so than the speech. I practice walking red carpet opposing. I would have to practice posing so much. Yeah i don't know my good angles or yeah. That's why i hate having my photo taken. Because i just i don't understand it just awkward posture awkward. Like what do i do with my hands like what way. How do i smile right. It's a completely recreate that red carpet before the red carpet. And just look at all the photos and be like okay. We can't stand this way. We can't do that. Yeah exactly yeah for sure. One day one day to you. I'm trying to think of just. I want this episode to be about practicing Have you did you play instruments. when you're growing up. i did. I know i also i played in band. I played the flute. And one of the reasons. I can't run is because i don't know how to breathe properly and i can never play the instruments well because i didn't have a long enough breath so it always breath in between and didn't just do it in one fluid breath so And i remember the band teacher told me that you know just practice and get an we like you know. I don't have time. I did have time had so much time. Be like. I have no time to practice. And i'm not going to be an orchestra. I'm not going to be sitting here. My plane flew on my. Yeah it's just like. And i remember thinking i think i chose to take ban because the other thing especially in the elementary school or middle school. The alternative was like singing or something. That wasn't really an interesting thing. And i remember when i went to middle school. Light switch middle schools and I just signed up for band. Because i had a food. That's what i did in. The previous school. And i was so upset because the alternatives in that school was like woodworking and all these really interesting classes i would have to take him out of band and in our high school. The alternative was cad. And i wish. I'd taken that instead of band but also band was nice because you never had to study. So but yeah i never. I never practiced ban was the class. So i wouldn't have to study Practice i i remember even taking piano lessons. I should've practiced more. But it was like. I'm good enough like they can't tell if i practiced i have been practicing typing. I recently found this website called type. Racer and i've just constant. I'm trying to get really fast. Typing simon practicing. How many words per minute are you at so. My average is in the eighties. And yeah but when. I'm really bad at. I make mistakes it in the seventies but i did hit. I do get ninety sometimes. And i have hit One hundred thirteen with the highest. That i hit some trying to get to their Asked my brother. Who's the avid gamer. And he was like. Oh yeah no no. I'm not a fast typer. And he has is like one hundred. And then i kind of had him type something. I was like oh so you use your pinkies and like all this stuff. That i don't use and i remember. He was shocked. He was like did you. Just use your middle finger to type. He just my fingers aren't long enough on. Sorry what about you. What's what's your words. Forbid you know Last i checked which was learned a couple of years ago. It was like sixty five. Oh if you you we should do a type racer thing Don't don't think so. Sounds like you're. I will say one according to type racer though you are a type master if you can type better than fifty five so you're already a tight master. Don't patronize me. No type officer is fifty five to seventy nine and then you are mega. Racer if you're eighty above. Don't oh man i've been. I've been really into that. It's like my own little game. That i play but then when i make a lot of mistakes like i get frustrated and then i stop nine. Pretend that i did not just get a a low score. An eighty five discussed myself. Oh you know me so well what about you. Any instruments took piano lessons for a long time. And i literally never practiced for it so much so that my piano teacher was like you. I can tell data just an hour. Please i froze on my resigned. Sido and my teacher had to come to the stage in like whisper like hey like put your fingers. It was terrible. I also took flute starting from elementary school. And i never practice any either and it was so bad that the instructor the band teacher like obviously heard something wrong with the flute. Section and leave each of us play individually and when he got to me. I was playing so many wrong notes. That my friend next to me was literally helping my into the right position. But yeah that's that force to practice either going to do it but yeah i think that's why i didn't take band in high school. I was just like i can't do this. I wish i hadn't taken band in. Highschool cad was great. No choice. And i wish i had taken it. We it was a cad or with no see plus plus or something that was one of those like cisco or us. I didn't take those two cat. 'cause cad was the one where you made the three d models right. Yeah then my technical drawing and stuff and yeah it was definitely the c. plus plus in the cisco which i wanted to take okay. It probably would have convinced me to study computer science in college. Which is now what i wish had done. But i was in band. Copying people's homework and studying for the next period test was their concerts and stuff in high school band were there. I don't know remember. I definitely wasn't in marching band or anything like that. He didn't have a martian band. Okay yeah because there was paid attention in school yeah. Marching band always seems kind of cool up there. Yeah hats and their uniforms. I was in marching bed. I would definitely want to have played the snare or something. You know drunk. Yeah definitely would not have wanted to do bass or tuba in middle school though. Because i had bad breath. Sorry that killed just. I didn't have big. If i didn't have pat brennan who steve made complete from just like bad breath control butter. Okay no man that came out wrong. But my but i had good. Is it rhythm or something and the band section. Wasn't that great so the instructor actually had me go and like play the base to keep the band together because the guy who who's playing the bass just was not good. He was like you know you're not really you know keeping the the notes going on your flute but i know you can do it to go over there and hit the base and that was fun own. Jeez do you remember because you start abandoned in elementary school right. Do you remember how you got involved in that. Because my elementary school we had an audition and it was literally just the entire school and the band teacher played a note on the piano. And you had to guess what not. Yes that's what happened with you. Well yeah. I completely forgot about that but when you were saying it. I think they would test if you had like the pit. Like if you could tell the differences between pitches so they'd be like once higher which we and then i think they also had everyone sing a note because like i think they split people into band and more at obviously. I wasn't in court in my mind. I'm like oh yeah. I'm such a great singer but definitely not have a horrible. Like i can't control my pitch of my voice. But yeah that is what they did. I wonder what happened to the people who couldn't be band or chorus losers. Like if they couldn't tell like if we're p- tone-deaf at you know like i wonder what happened to those kids. I remember when you had to fill out the notes and all that stuff you had to write down what instrument you wanted to play. And i only wrote down fluid because the person next to me wrote flute. I wished as soon as i got selected for flute. I was like damn it. I wish i played trumpet. And i wanted to play that instrument ever since no but did you. Why did you pick flute. I think. I wish i would put down drums actually button. I put down flute. I don't actually remember. But i knew i didn't wanna play the clarinet also. I'm glad i picked the flute. Because all the other instruments you have to like buy reads and stuff. And and they looked so gross. I know and then you'd have to like there were the school instruments. And it's like with the flu you just wipe down but like all the other ones you had to buy the mouthpiece and then like and then there's that valves found always kind of cool gross but my brother played the trumpet and his lips are like plump I think it's from that the mouth piece thing of but yeah. I wish i had put down percussion But i think. I think oh i know why because i think if you played the piano every was kind of like. Oh yeah the flute is like you would pick it up very quickly Yeah i think that was it. And i think i even remember because i kept being in band throughout my parents ended up buying a used flute from me or something so i had one. I don't know where it went. Did i actually ended up buying one. I know i had flew to. I don't know where it went either. My cousin played the violin. And i always thought that was really cool. That's an expensive one to pick up i think. Did you play any sports. I know we'd ever practiced for tunnel. Definitely did not play practice tennis. No other sports. I played no other sports growing up. But i do practice golf with my dad at the range. Good for you. He's always so excited when i go and visit. He goes to undergo the range. Okay fine and make your rounds among the usuals. And they're like oh your father. Yeah i remember. Every time we went to the range. Your father was there and he Among his friends he's kind of The one that like helps teach them like wings and stuff but he's he always brings me to the range and i think it's just to like be like oh. This is my daughter. I'm so close with my daughter. Just like brag all of his other friends that he has a dog because like all dads want a daughter basically for something sons. I don't know oh daddy's little girl type thing. are you. daddy's little girl. I'm daddy's only girl okay. I hope they're another. Oh man an illegitimate child. Oh man anytime. i taught me my. I always remember a. We would always go to lunches or dinners together when i was younger. Attitude you've yeah just the two of us and there. Was this one restaurant that we went to where the waitress would flirt with him. So hard he had no idea and then she would start. Giving me like free Free like little pastries and be like super nice to me. And i would always be like. Oh we should go back to the restaurant because she's trying to get on my good side so that she can. She thinks you're you're like a single dad. But she wants to get with you. That was like what are you talking about. And i'm like that lady is always so nice to us and it's always like asking you about your life and stuff and he was so oblivion korean restaurant. It was a korean restaurant. Yes oh my yeah. Your dad had it so funny so funny that's disturbing. Yeah i if it were me and my dad and then it was all pretty young and so the the finally. When i told him he likes stopped going there. He wouldn't take me there anymore like he was like no. What are you talking about. And then i guess here just like with. My daughter thinks that i can't take anymore. That's so nice though that you had that father daughter bonding. I wonder why we did that was because he was picking me up or orange. He loves you always a reason. that's true. Yeah you're right you're right. I remember he took me you and another friend. I don't remember who it was Snowboarding ones an. It's like oh my father would never do that in his free. Time takes his daughter and their friends to an where he's literally doing nothing but leading all day. Wow my dad. My dad is such a people pleaser but he loves just. He's just the typical like dad joke type of dad ocean funny and like all that stuff But yeah that's the story of my dad. Do you believe that you can do anything if you practice. And yes but i think to really excel at something. You have to have natural talent. I feel like natural talent. Just gets you there quicker but like an will you natural talent takes to that next level. I think Whereas practice gets you to like a yeah yellow and then natural talent takes you to excelling basic is how i feel because i remember listening. I think it was to mpr. There was this one person who became a pop star and she was. They showed her like not showed with the right. Because it's a it's an audio so did it show me what's the right way to say that. We'll they aired it. I don't know will. Basically the episode starts with her singing. And it's so bad and she just kept practicing and practicing. You're practicing for years or something just like every day the same song and then pop star. Who is it. I don't know but there was that video and so thinking. Oh wow but also pop. Stars aren't really like super impressive vocals. Mostly all the time. It's more about the music and the production value. I think and then there was that video of that japanese women who just like practice dancing and like showed clips of her just getting better and better and better as you practice every day and then she became like a super popping lock in break dancing machine interesting. Yeah there's a video where it just like small of her and she gets better and better and better You gotta have that dedication. You gotta like really really wanted. I think yeah dedication definitely and also they have that they already have that natural talent and so they are inclined to that particular activity rice still that they practice. When if you're not if you don't have that natural thing then you're you might not even be interested in it you know right. Yes because like in the queen's gambit for example. She has the natural talent. And she's like has all the skills to become a naturally good chessmaster she still has to practice so much to get to the right level and stuff so right. Yeah and you know. She's inclined to like. I guess also though there's other way where like if you're naturally talented at it you practice less because it just comes naturally to you. That happened to me with Kinda with golf a little bit. Where when. I was playing golf in high school. I didn't practice all the time because i could always just pick it up and like it was decent enough but moons. When i was wanting to win and was one i would practice but if it wasn't for like a game or something like a competition than i would've practice i guess it has to be a combination of natural talent and love for the activity like passion for it. Yeah anti-vietnam grain right. And it's also i think it was also just the competitiveness like if you don't have that competitiveness then like you're just practicing for fund. You're not practicing to win whereas When you practice to win that's a different. Were practising in fact competitiveness in you that gets you to excel at it more to be the best like if you don't have that drive to be the best or whatever and you just enjoying it and you just like practicing like Sometimes it won't get you to that level Yeah do you have a competitiveness. I'm definitely competitive but To a certain extent like all very competitive about and then just be like. That's enough for me. Like what like. I will get very competitive. And then it's kind of like short spurts of competitiveness. Where like in the moment. I'm like oh. I have to win a winner. Whatever and then it's just like but i'm not competitive to the point where it's like takes over my entire life competitive it's more of like you just wanna like p very competitive for this one thing and then i'll just like forget about work or it'll just like always haunt me if i don't i don't know i've always been very competitive though. I've always wanted to win but like went with tennis. I was competitive but like not enough to practice to win each because we had that one girl in our team though was very very competitive. And we'll get so mad. If she lost like for us it'd be like or not like out of whatever. But i was still like innately competitive where i would go into being like. We could win this. We're gonna win this. And that i would actually go for it but if i missed it wouldn't like i wouldn't beat myself up for it. Oh like drafting emails. Is that considered practicing. You're gonna might an email to someone professionally now. I strangely don't really graft practice emails for work. I just kind of allegria over twice and make minor edits but usually it's like. Yeah when i get Applications now for jobs. And i read all of these like cover letters that people send. Oh i always back about like the first time that is sent out cover letters and just thinking. Wow this like did it matter. And it's like adorable reading but like especially in our industry like now. If i were to apply for a job or something it would just be like. Here's my resume. Call me or whatever it would not be like a an essay which is what they teach you in school and stuff. So i like thinking back on all the like when i first got out of college or like all the internships that i applied to install i cringe just thinking about those letter. Get reminded of it when i receive it from. I'm just like all young. Naive person in the industry is so hard. Did i tell you about that. Cover letter. I received once four an interim position where it was in all caps ended with. God bless oh dear. God like just a quick google search will give you an example of a cover letter right right and then you can just base it off of that your life story in all caps and it with a god bless own right. Yeah well we definitely don't practice what we're going to say on these that Yeah i know we should. I dunno making lists of topics. Maybe i don't know. Is there something that you want to practice more or get better at. What do i want to practice more. I mean i want to practice. I don't want to practice. But i want to get better at human interaction. How do you practice. I don't know maybe they going onto like online forums and just chatting with strangers. No pressure just you know. No thank you. I don't know how i'm gonna get better at it. But i do want to cool with mine. What a frigging paradox. I know it's a catch twenty two. I want better talking to people. But i don't want to talk to people catch twenty two I definitely want to get better at speaking. Because i don't talk Fame yeah. That's it's hard so this is definitely helping. But i don't know if that's considered practice I don't know. I wanna get better at critiquing films and tv and stuff like that. You know. I really like film critics and people who really analyze and get into it and get the meaning out of it. Do you have a favorite critic. No i don't really. I should i think i want to download procreate try doing stuff but it's fun i keep saying that won't but i'm just like well i do it. I don't know why not. I feel like there's so many other things that i have to do and i feel like it's just an excuse for me to procrastinate on when you cook outta. Do you like practice dishes often to improve on it or do you just always with the same way same way. And whenever as premature. Yeah whenever i do. Cook off a recipe. I never really repeat it even if it turns out really great right. It's like oh this looks interesting or this looks good and then i just kind of make it once and then that's it. Yeah i guess. I should like get some staples like there was a yeah. There are a lot of recipes that i've tried. That have been really good. But i don't know it's just too much. Effort riyadh is. It's a lot of effort. What about you practice your cooking. No one. I don't think i even like change it often because i don't actually measure things either so it's always just like how did i put this much last time or i don't know i'll just eyeball everything Because even when i i asked my mom to teach me a a dish or something. And she just like just like like she would be like. Oh like you know like your finger amount or lab. Wouldn't give me any measurements so Or she'll just do it really quickly and just like oh my god or if i follow recipe a line in the recipes online than all kind of measure but generally. I just eyeball everything when you follow instructions. Maybe it's for recipes or I don't know just anything. Are you the type that has to follow it to a t. or are you just kind of like It'll be fine. I am a mix of both Even when i'm making furniture or anything like that. I am very alec. Follow it to the t. But like i'll take liberties and some areas where it's like. Oh it'll be fine. If i don't do it like all the way or like what those things but i won't skip steps. That's i won't 'cause i'm yeah. I won't skip steps unless it's like. I've done twenty ikea's stuff so i can. I generally know how to do it but with recipes. All i'll be like. Oh i don't have that ingredients on you know but i will try to follow it as closely as i can or that makes. I don't know if making sense no like when you and you're like oh it'll be fine if i don't do it all the way. Are you talking about like screws that you're not listening or what's going on loose furniture. No i think. I think screws. Screw all the way. Okay what you know. Sometimes they'll come with like those stickers that you don't have to put on all the time or you know like kirsten nails. Oh okay. I'm trying to think i haven't really done one in a while. But oh like you know if it's like oh there's like four four legs to it you follow one. You don't have to like follow it time. You are okay. I've done once. All just do the like i don't have to look at it. Well yeah. I thought i'll just three. Oh man that's funny or like. I have a shoe rack downstairs and the final step is you have to mount it to the wall. So oh yeah. I never melts amounted mounted so if you pull out the drawer it just comes kind of you usually. I'm the type that's like. I have to follow it exactly. Mike especially with recipes especially with like tools are the type it's going to read the instruction manual and follow the. Oh you have to clean the filter or you have to do this. And this to keep up with the maintenance gary like about like your britta if it lights up after you you just keep on using that folks no like things like that that go into my body and bury like but also i think my parents though that like whatever they estimate like they like okay but it's more about like how many times you've like used it or yeah or volume right. I think they'll more be like the water skied tasting money. Now replace now honestly though like in new york it's fine. If i was in california. I would be way more strict about my brenda because that water is disgusting not drinkable water. I don't know how you guys do it in california yeah I got notification from my new water supplier in the state saying that there is led detectives. I'm de for about that. Yeah maybe boil your water to maybe apparently boiling. It does nothing so. I have a lead filter brighter but Yeah my parents are the worst. I remember my mom. Got this pot. it was kind of like a dutch oven but not really and you had the season it in the oven at a specific temperature for a specific time and i was about to eleven and it was maybe like four hours and my mom's like oh just double time i mean w temperature and have time and and i was like i don't think so and she's like yeah it'll be fine and then it comes out and it's just black. Yeah i was like. Oh i'm the type that'll be like. We gotta do this. Specific reason why this in people have tested this. My parents also like i know that expiration dates aren't like you don't have to follow them religiously But they stretch it like just like i'll like goat into their fridge and just like start throwing things out of because i'm like you need to sound. Oh funny fun. I can't believe that turned blog. I mean i guess. Yeah i'm just like why would you just just follow it. Why like you don't have to like like look at it. Just right oh parents you know You know what i mean. I know what you mean anyway. I don't have anything. Talk about practicing. How how much more can we beat the dead. Stretch this topic to their kicking the crumbs. Now i mean. I wanna keep plugging are. I don't know how much more i don't know what even saying all right. Well follow social media or not pod hashtag or handle or whatnot and see you next week or talk to you next week. Five or not.

sandham julia louis francis mcdormand halle berry sandra Phoebe waller amazon elementary school or middle sc alec pat brennan new york times Dreyfus cisco Halle berry mike golf army tennis elementary school simon
Bill Cunningham 6/2/20

Bill Cunningham

1:09:28 hr | 11 months ago

Bill Cunningham 6/2/20

"The following program were prerecorded. Billy Cunningham the great American report by Tommy, Vanderbilt, the chance the governor will be speaking about two apart today was that develops, but until then some of the headlines Pop shot in the head and Las Vegas. He's on life. Support the reporting this morning on CBS morning, news was not gonNA make. Four officers wounded and Saint Louis persistent hit the national ours, but we had a cop in Cincinnati that was shot in the head, fortunately survived because of his Kevlar helmet driver mows down officer in the Bronx. Another different officer NYPD beaten as onlookers film the entire event put it on social media, so some other headlines around the country DC is a war zone fortress White House. Trump calls governors week, fools and jerks, military deployed violence destruction escalates everywhere. Then we have reporting out of Cincinnati yesterday now. The enquirer reporter was briefly detained by police while covering protests in the city Monday evening Patrick. Brennan who I I may have met him but I don't think I know. was with other journalists, simply doing his job after curfew on McMechan avenue when he was detained by Cincinnati police journalists are considered essential workers are exempt from the curfew Evan covering the protests for several days, Brennan. The enquirer reporter was briefly detained after the arrest started Monday night and of course. Everyone's apologized including the mayor, and maybe at some point today or tomorrow the mayor will take a knee along with Sergeant Dan Hills COPD. Are we getting all the facts Brennan? Who covers FC Cincinnati has been helping with protests coverage because of all the work being done, and it was released about eight fifty five PM Society Mayor John Cranley said the incident was a big mistake. The buck stops with me and I sincerely apologize in this comes on the heel of a Omar Jimenez, who is the CNN reporter that was arrested simply literally for doing his job, which gave me in my mind the idea that. Patrick Brennan. The Inquirer was simply doing his job, and since police targeted him for an arrest. Let's get a maybe a different perspective from the head of the Union, which is of course sergeant, Dan Hills and Sergeant Hills welcome to the bill. Cunningham show and First of all sergeant. Is They report from the enquirer factually accurate. Not at all willy matter of fact, I think this was frankly at set up and I can't tell you how disappointed I am and mayor Cranley he He's folded like a cheap lawn chair. The first time there was any criticism of our officers I've talked to a couple of different people that right there and I can tell you the whole story thing I wanNA. Do from your list. List of things that you came on these talked about taking a knee. He said Cranleigh and me. I hope I hope that was flipping the tongue, because I will not be taking a knee, and we can talk about that in a second if you like, but first and foremost. Here's what happened. We had some officers deployed down around making street area. There shots fired. They just recovered gone. A break in around the corner. There was some other officers trying to take a break and Brennan. You say his name is yeah. It'd been advised a couple of times. There was one person that was aware that he was some sort of media, but did not know 'cause Brennan was dressed like everybody else no big shirt that said media or inquire hit on a a tiny, maybe like four by far index card on. Lanier's around his neck. But you've been warned several times to to go around. As there was a Swat armored vehicle and these officers taking a break this, it was not an area. In which we wanted anybody that travel now the media is of course free and encouraged to look and see what's happening reported accurately which they don't always do, but that doesn't mean that they are not with restrict without any restrictions. we can tell by watching us with a camera and the approach Mr Brennan. It seems very obvious that this guy was one for instance and many others I talked to this guy was trying to set up and see the reaction well. He got the reaction he wanted I guess as other authors approach had no idea whatsoever that he was media. Also told him to stop. And he refused to stop at which time he was taken down, and he was He was handcuffed and I'm here to tell you right now. Those officers those officers were a hundred percent in the right. Those officers are what has saved this city from the from the type of violence that type of turmoil, the type of destruction that has is happening our parts of the country because of their. Their extreme dedication I've talked to author that have been in tears because they've worked twelve sixteen and eighteen hours, and then sent home and told that they have to be back and four or five hours again. It is unreal. The amount of commitment and dedication nuisance police say and then John Cranley who's gone around and Brag and Brag and Brag about the best police department and the country which we are and praised God. Of Like I, said he folded like a cheap lawn seat. As soon as there was any type of criticism, whatever and this is totally unwarranted criticism. This isn't even a mistake that was made a mistake was made by this media reporter or something he did intentionally, and then the have the guy that says he's the head of our city, and seeing us through these these riots. The people who are out there where the rubber meets the road and right now. Willie I happen to be parked. And District One, and I'm facing towards the police memorial, and here's a fact you wanNA. Know a fact is that there is a chance and it's significant. Chance that through this riding through this disturbance better name might get added to this memorial that I'm looking at across the street. And how does that sit with each and every one of us as we are are going out here and serving multiple hours a day. How does that Shit with the families who are sending their loved ones out? The serve here each and every day and because some. Reporter wants to once the challenge. What little bit of direction he was given, and then, and then come out with accusations got about the police. Are Politicians want to jump in on his side? You know if it wasn't for the police providing security to the society. That's free society. Where would mayor Cranley be? Where would all these other politicians be I? Imagine they would probably bunkered in their basements for they would probably leave Gal, some cabin or Resort retreat far away from the inner city where this is happening, and where they sent the men and women down here to do job and I'm here right now to tell you. This apology needs to be rescinded, and the new apology needs to be put four to the men and women that were down there, and we're done and done at disturbance by this report margin hills tell tell the American people. What exactly did Patrick. Brennan of the Inquirer do according to the enquirer. There were five to seven cops grabbing Patrick, trying to slam his face into the street, followed by the police department, tweeting a statement that it sounded like the world's biggest shrug, we apologize for an inconvenience. What was an allegedly? His? His pass was small, but visible, and that he had goggles on and that he was according to the. Five to seven cops grabbed, Patrick, try and and try to slam is facing the street. What exactly did Brennan, do? Like I, said he was AF several times. told several times to walk around an area where we had some. Going on, we had like I said an armored car there and he was warned multiple times. Just because you're press doesn't mean you get to go anywhere, said a policeman for thirty three years and ninety nine point nine percent of the time the media on the street level. Or instructions you can't come any closer. The press briefing will be at this going or whatever this guy joker decides that that's A. He's above that because he's with the media and he disobeys the orders. The LOV orders of policemen. Nobody was just coming up company because he was out observing, they were told him no, and then he purchased some other cops as he got around to one that was warning and SORTA heading for these cops in. In an aggressive manner yelling and ahead his hand over his head about something he wanted to do I guess and they they had they had to stop him. They didn't know who he was. A second group of officers had no idea who he was and felt as though he was a threat. You know we have a right to protect ourselves. We have a right to protect our own, and now more than ever. You said Saint Louis. Cincinnati I think there was another thing where police officers ran over in Atlanta New York list goes on and on and on I've seen I've seen cops battered I've seen him bleeding all over to social media from every town across this great country. Willie, the people who are defending this nation right now and I love our servicemen I did a couple of years myself, but not right now is not the the the army, or the Navy or Air Force Marine, the number one line of defense for this country, people who are standing up to defend her today as Lee. Greenwood sank the people who are standing up to defend her today. Today are the men and women of Law Enforcement Dan. He was doing it not not when you say Patrick Brennan aggressively one toward the Cincinnati police I would assume that's on their on their video cam correct on video. I've watched the video soon as I saw that he even before I talked to the answers I was aghast at how this this guy was a seven. He realized what's going on, doesn't he? Realize what is in the the the the minds of these police officers that all wish just to go home and do not wish to be on the memorial that I'm looking at right now. That that that was so foolish. Idiotic and the only thing that was more idiotic was the mayor, and he's other politicians. Come out and condemn without apparently taken a very good look what occurred. And and putting it into the context and the situation, this wasn't this wasn't a an F. O. P. Picnic. This was this was a essentially. A war zone and media has to follow some directives in some direction in situations like this, and this guy was above it will. He was above it I think he wanted this? That's what I think I think he's doing nothing, but you know what stirring and you know the as much as that disappoint disappoints me. I've seen the media more on the national level of our reporters are here are fine. People I've seen on a national level. The media push this. Wait for that waited for this moment when. You know something that I see is defenseless of what happened in Minnesota cannot defend it. It was bad, no other place leaders, but they use this one incident when you have several hundred thousand police and ninety nine point, seven percent of them are very good people that go out here and do the job very well each and every day, and they have millions of context. You're millions and millions of contacts a year say make millions of. Of Arrest of the year, and they find the one or two or three things that happen every year, and it's being they usually probably the worst I've ever seen as far as using it for a camera, and they used it along with Antifa and the far left, and this is a war on America, and right now the frontline soldiers I am so proud of especially here in Cincinnati are the men and women of the Police Department. They are they are doing an outstanding tremendous job Willie and and and weak kneed politicians. I don't know Brittany politicians be damn right now. The people that got to stand up for this country are are the police officers and its citizens that know the truth. The. The Media The media tells stories and send things and everything sometimes. I think they'd like to create a lot of this chaos, so they can report on it, but there. There's no place else in in in the country nowhere. Like, like here in the USA where our policemen are respectful of other people's right, they are care, careful and considerate of of the citizens, and yes, we're in perfect. There's there's no perfection and doctors nurses, lawyers, these and definitely not politicians only talk show host. Talk shows do a great job talking. Only talk show host. And that SORTA. Let me ask this question Pat Patrick Brennan. The Inquirer was arrested. What was he arrested for? And charge has been dropped. The charges have been dropped I. Don't know what they originally their plans were the charging. It could've been a disorderly conduct maybe before they realized he was media. That might have been for the curfew. I I. Don't know what charges they going to go with. They ended up going with none I'm you know I'm reasonably okay with that I. You know I think they're probably something that he was guilty of and all of his refusal of orders probe. Probably at least obstruction of official business or something of that nature. His face in the street to that that five or seven cops grabbed Patrick running. He. He went down, but there weren't people slamming. It's facing the. Just, just I want to view I. went to listeners to view the video themselves it was it was a quick and effective arete again. We don't know what we're facing. When we face this guy coming around a corner yelling out us in this environment again you have to put things in the context. That's one of the things in media loves to do. They love to take things out of context, and it makes it sound like you know if we were all sitting around sipping on Coghlan's NFL P picnicking. This guy came up and start yelling. That would be a different story. We are basically in a war done because it's America you don't know. We're at war or shall we say they're at war with us? Whatever this is far left ANTESA season. The these antagonistic th the radicals revolutionaries. They're anarchist's Willie. They are anarchism. We're facing them and they have nothing but middle fingers for US ninety percent of the time, and we have nothing but professionalism for them ninety nine point nine nine percent of the time, and so this this media. Guy He he he chose very unwisely, and now he wants to make big deal out of it after charges are dropped and now our our our mayor wants to criticize the cops. You'd better you'd better look at your. You'd better look at the time you better. Look at the Times that are going on right now and and you and you should. You should reconsider before you go jumping on a police for for for doing nothing. Nothing, but protecting themselves. We gotTA run sergeant. Dan Hills I the don't have to say in the media I'm not sure I'm in the media I'm often a critic of the media, but I'll say this I'm going to review the videotape which is on our website, and then what you say is accurate I may issue a different ruling. So what would you tell to borough Lavin, the editor of the inquire about the conduct Patrick Brennan. Why would tell that? Maybe he needs a some sort of IQ tests before he hires a reporter, because if he this guy thought it was a reasonable thing to do. Sit Disobey those directives. That's one thing. I'll tell him as when when when a policeman in a in a riot situation something that's gone beyond arrived. Situation in my mind sells you. Go that way, so go that way. That's pretty darn simple right I talked to. Him several times several times go around. Go over here There was a lot a whole lot going on so when you're told to do something, please just do it. It's not that hard. Please just do it. Please don't you know. Don't walk out our officers shouting with with with your right hand, raise like. We? We're a little on edge. Willy and we can be. We can be accused for being a little on edge right now. People are trying to kill. People are solely nuts. This is this is a very hard time and. The people who are stepping up the reason. Cincinnati isn't burning like so many other cities is because our officers are are reacting precisely and effectively, and they are trained better than anybody else in the country and I am so damn. Proud of them and I'm so damn embarrassed that the politicians you know, walk walk away like they did we. The men and women are Cincinnati police. Department, we're not taking any. We're standing strong for this country. Sergeant, Dan Hills give my best to the men and women in blue, and may God bless you and keep the cops safe and God, bless America. Thank you. That's your Willie on. Let's continue with more your reaction. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand bill, Cunningham, newsradio seven hundred wwl of you. Billy Cunningham in about thirty minutes. Rob Sanders will be the Kent County Prosecutor about what's happening in Covington with the protest here and there I understand from media accounts. There have been some minor skirmishes and Covington. My hometown, but nonetheless you heard the comments of sergeant. Dan Hills taking Tasca, the Inquirer and its editor borough, love and. Asking Weather Bureau love does an Iq test for their employees Patrick. Brennan was arrested briefly for the behavior that was described by Sergeant Dan Hills justifying the arrests John, and you and I now is borough. Love is editor for the Inquirer and borough. Love Welcome. I think for the first time to the Bill Cunningham. Show Berle. How are you? I'm doing well today. Billy, thanks for having me. ME. Your perspective because as told, and I've seen the video tape which I saw during the break and. I think the six or seven cops could've handled it a bit. But on the other hand, maybe Patrick Brennan didn't have to walk into him. What his intent was so as the employer of Patrick Brennan to the inquiry. What did you see and do you see any problems with your reporters behavior? First of all I want to say that I have nothing but respect for the work that the police are doing especially during these challenging times we work with them day in and day out. We communicate. We rely on them for information. And once it was determined that Pat Brennan was detained. They very quickly. made that situation right and I was on the phone last night with dependent cheaper the. Probably! who had pat right next to them and said you know they apologize. We want to work to make sure that. You know situations like that. Don't happen which on both sides in the heat of the moment It's very hard to navigate. Those situations and make sense of what's going on, but I can tell you that prior to the video that everyone has seen Patrick was had been separated from his team and for their safety. We tell them they try to need to stay together. And so prior to when the video started it was determined already that he was a borough of the press. And they had told him had to move from one side of the street to the other which he did and he waited. And once the Swat line and the protesters continued to go forward. and we're cleared out of that way His team, a couple of photographers in another recorder started to try to get police the pension to say hey, he's with us. Telecom over here with US and Patrick was trying to get to them and walked into the street to join his team, and that's when the video basically starts, and you can hear him yelling for the attention of team members and say hey, you know this is going down here. Make sure you know that I've got a situation here. I think at that point and again I I wasn't able to hear her. What Dan Hill said I had a colleague listened to to suggest that that Pat Brennan was Creating this situation to get attention is an outright lie. I'm disappointed that a officer would would suggest that He was concerned for his safety. He was trying to be compliant and it was a situation, and and he was shaken up afterwards. I mean totally shake it up and so That's that's the situation that happened. I do think that. That six officers did not need to bring him down like that, but once that mistake had been made the the leaders of the police department. Fix it very quickly which I'm thankful for borough. Your reporter do anything wrong. I'm looking at the video which is on our website and yours. He's pointing. He's in the group and then. It quickly he's gathered and brought down. He's tripped I'm looking at it now and about six or seven officers are on top of them. Did you think when he walked into the officers in the beginning was did he do anything wrong there? You know we can second guess his actions He was trying to communicate his need to rejoin his team after he waited for. The protesters in that initial swat line to move through that area He was trying to get access to where other members of the press were, and he's trying to communicate that, so you know in hindsight. Maybe he should have waited another thirty seconds for a minute for the situation to calm down a little more but you know. It's it's a tense situation, and and he was trying to rejoin his team. So you know I can't tell you you know in. Hindsight could have handled differently. I'm sure everyone in the situation that's making. How could we have handled that differently but what? What I do think was necessary was one. You know they at that point? Of them knew that he was a member of the choir team. I. I don't think they needed to bring him down in that way at all. I think that You know that was. That was definitely not how we want to be working with our police when we're both out there trying to do our jobs. This happened a couple of times on the CNN was the most blatant example, but you think because the police officers new with the. That they wanted to give it to my little harder. Do you think the cops wanted to take it out on media? I I don't WanNa say suggest that I don't know I do know that. I think there's a little bit of a disconnect the leadership of the city in the leadership of the police. Department they understand that you know we're. We have a First Amendment Protection to do that job and it's. Especially, important in situations like this that we are able to record without the fear of being arrested and understanding that we do have to follow their their safety orders and and if we want to challenge them, that's not the place to do it. We can do it. In a more reasonable way at fact, I. Reporters on our team will openly defy a police officer like that. I what I think it is, it's it's a disconnected that some of the boots on the ground so to speak. are not as familiar with those first amendment protections and again they're in a very stressful situation, and they're making decisions in the heat of the moment, and I think that was a particularly bad decision I i. don't think it was you know a a you know we're going to go after the inquire for the sake of going after the enquirer. I I don't think that that's that's fair. Some lawyers Louis Sirkin. Some others are kind of trolling or asking for individuals who have been wrongfully arrested. It appears this is likely a wrongful arrest. Because he was detained, had to have been a charge sergeant Dan Hills was he arrested? The answer was yes, what were the charges? He did? No, he suggested they might have been disorderly conduct to failure failure to obey a police order those kinds of things. Assuming that, there wasn't any injuries to Patrick Brennan I don't. There's not a parent, but God knows what happened Do you give based upon this different orders to your employees to be more? Careful about coverage to when I read the comments of Chief of Police Isaac, he says it is is. His idea was in clearly visible, but I think on the video I see something around his neck. That's probably the. Based upon this. Do you think the inquiries going to have more meetings with the on street reporters? Telling what is proper and what is not proper? When I look at the video and break it down. Just by frame after he was talking, he went deeper into the little crowd of police officers, and that's when they reacted. Not Knowing who he was chief I said we didn't know who he was. He wasn't he was dressed like. May I use the term? Protester had a backpack on and as a consequence. We wasn't sure who he was. He was arrested for something, but no one knows what he was arrested four so based upon this incident. Are you going to inform your reporters not to walk into a group of police officers? They already know that They and they know that they are supposed to follow the instructions at the police officers. I won't say that at Brennan was wearing A. Cincinnati, Inquirer Polo shirt in addition to his credentials, and like I said it had already been established established previously by offices around there that he was a member of practice because you told them that Are People in the field heard at that. At that moment with the officer's presence that they didn't care, but he still wants to the side of the street that they told him and waited, so I think at that point it was is fairly well known by the officers around that that he was a member of the inquire team, but yes, we actually while you were talking to hills. I was on a call with The public information officer some Saunders for their department and a couple of the news directors and we talked about. The Need to make sure that we are. You know we have our credentials. It's clear that are members of the press, but it's difficult. You now because. The out there. Protesters observers. They all have cell phones. Trying to record, and it's chaotic so You Know I. I think that It's very wrong to say though that that he wasn't making every effort possible to let them know, he was a member of crafts, and that once that was established. They They're the take down that they used after we kind of regroup. What wasn't deed a judgment error understandable. That's why we're talking through it. He was not. Technically arrested, he was not charged with anything. They detained him briefly and once it was determined. He was a member of the press They released him and then I was on the phone with the lieutenant cheap within probably five minutes so suffering the injuries to your knowledge other than dignity. He said he scraped his knee a little bit The also said that he was concerned that it looked like in the video that he was resisting going down He said he was trying to go down in control away, but there were so many offers around him that he didn't go down right away and I'm and I'm fairly certain that that's a technique that used so that you know his. His head to think smashing into the pavement, they waited until they had control of him, and then brought him down but If you see the video and it's like well. Why did it take so long to bring this guy down He was trying to go down. He wasn't resisting at all and and now he I think he got a little bit of a straight me was shaken up. But he's he's back out today. He's got a FC Cincinnati Story. He's doing and I told him you know once your adrenaline. You'RE GONNA. Have a great story to tell us too far. As far as the enquirer is concerned, assists, conclude the matter, and there will be no further action taken on this matter. I can't say that we're GONNA. Continue to talk with the police department and every case we've. We've asked to see any available body camera. For, the might be available. And you know what I will say is is the goal here isn't to go to court with the goal. Here is just to make sure that we use. This is a learning opportunity for both for both organizations, and and try to avoid it from happening and understand You know what better what happened so that we can coast organizations on how to avoid it expressly for those listening, there's different perspectives on everything. I have a text here. That says he's. The guy was dressed like a bum backpack and won't listen to police in every right to take his ass down. How would you respond to that? Well I mean everybody has their opinion and I respect that opinion. I just don't think that's an accurate description of what happened. All right well, we'll see what occurs. At least give no plea, but Berle as a consequence of this. Has Anything changed in reporting of the inquire of this of this event? No, not at all. We job you're doing. We're going to get. Borough love editor the inquire. Thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham show. Thank you, thank you all right. Let's continue. Fallon becomes available, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand pounds, seven, hundred, the new eighteen. And people have different opinions I. think There's a general dislike of the media because the media is reporting and how they report it, but on the other hand. I urge you either on the in choir. Our website to look at the take down and tell me if you think that's proper or improper. Is it overplayed or underplayed, and if you Patrick Brennan in that position, how would you feel today? Let's continue with more in about twenty minutes or so. We're going to put a call into Rob Sanders. Of the Kent County Prosecutor's Office. He considers Joe Deeter. deeter should be the Rob Sanders of Hamilton County, and then later on today also judge Norbert Nadel about the old school approach of how things were handled. No one which is significantly different than it's being handled today because of the training of police, plus later on after two o'clock is the governor Mike Dewine to talk about the unrest, the rioting, taking place in and Major American cities especially Cincinnati, Columbus, and Cleveland, so let's continue with more fifty one minutes after the hour bill. Cunningham, the home of the reds, hopefully in July newsradio seven hundred WWL W. Available take a look at our website. We have it posted there. Also the inquirer website, and I can only imagine at Patrick Brennan was black would have a completely different. Shine on it than if you're white, because that's the way we are conditioned our society. When I look at the videotape and break it down slowly, it's only twenty seven seconds. You break it down frame by frame by frame. Patrick Brennan should not taken those two steps forward further because he assumed they knew he was an inquiry reporter and according to borough love a good man. He implies her states that the police at least some. Knew that he was an in-car reporter. I would also assume some of the place didn't know who he was, and I have several callers coming up wanting to take Patrick Brennan to task for the way he looked and I've looked at it. He couldn't looks like the way I. Look now and then dot quite. I wouldn't have my hat on backwards, but but nonetheless it isn't like. He fits the profile of somebody who is protesting and Nora a real criminal, throwing rocks and shooting at cops, which has happened, and it's Dan Hill said about forty five minutes ago. We prayed to God. There's not a situation where we're at the police memorial against something uglies, going to happen and Patrick Brennan head on his mask, and he was dressed in dark clothes, and he's dressed away. Many Americans are dressed in the twenties and thirties when the temperature is eighty degrees i. don't see the. The dress, the problem and what this was when I s her lover, the editor of the inquire whether or not this was a little bit of the police given it to the media a little bit, and he, of course didn't respond positively or negatively, because you have to go into the mind and the police officer one thing Dan Hills did say forty five minutes ago. These are extremely tense times. Extremely tense cops have everything thrown out of the book. Including a bullet shot their way and. I'm watching Channel Nine and chief of Police Isaac was talking about. The fact that they had confiscated. They are fifteen or an AK did at one hundred round. Attachment to it that and there were shots fired, and so the police going to work twelve to fifteen hours a day day after day after day I think the nerves are raw, and they're and their Freida and so each side comes to this with certain attitudes about what's going to happen, but from looking at this Patrick Brennan was simply trying to. To do his job and is his actions were misinterpreted by the police, and they responded and and a training fashion. The police said quote. Several arrests in the area around mcnichols, stonewall and inquire report was temporarily detained and W CPO reporter move from the immediate areas. Officers were attempting to clear the street having rocks thrown at them, and we apologize for inconvenience. There's ninety five percent of the protesters have good motives. I Dunno one two five percent do not have good motives. They have rocks and urine filled containers and desire to call havoc turmoil anarchy. There's a group always involved in these protests that kind of take over the original goal of the protest, if fit some other agenda, these are dangerous times, and so all of us have to as much as possible respect, the police and report. Report and respect those are covering the story, so let's continue with more. I thought I would check in with Rob Sanders the Kent County Prosecutor about what's happening in Covington and more line becomes available, which it never does. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, pound, seven, hundred, eighteen, one, o'clock, the home of your reds, hopefully in July, news radio seven hundred wwl Cincinnati. In Bay. Good woman spiel. I'll make an old woman plus. One of the of the bay man. You're. Bad. Billy Cunningham the great American. One of the things that happens in urban areas that there's massive media coverage of what's happening in the main streets of Cincinnati. And recently we had the sheriff from Hamilton County Benny taking the we had chief of police Elliott Isaac take a knee. There's police chiefs all over taking a knee. There was a uniform officers and Michigan that stripped off their uniform and walk with the protesters, and I recently spoke to a friend of Joe, dealers. And spoke to him directly about this, saying. Maybe it's time for Joe. Dealer should take a knee and laying before the protesters and one thing that happens is the media covers the urban counties, but generally does not cover the counties. Of Easy Comfort Range for channels, five, nine, twelve, nineteen in the inquirer, recently spoke with a politician and Butler county. They told me Dan. We can do anything. We damn well, please. No one comes up here, so there's no protesting happening in highland county. UGLIES county many times in Boone County, or maybe Ken County because the media's lazy doesn't want to cover it, and if the media doesn't cover it, they riders and the protesters don't write in protest. Because after all it's not covered. They're not media. Stars a man with perspective on this is Rob Sanders. WHO's the Commonwealth Attorney in Kenton County and Rob Sanders welcome again to. To the bill, Cunningham show and rob, how are you willy? It's great to be back on your show. Thanks for having me. Have you thought about kneeling somewhere I could maybe have you and Joe Dealers get together and have group Neil in recognition of the rights of the protesters and the writers do what they're doing. Would you neil somewhere in Kenton county sometime today. Willie I haven't really had that opportunity. There hasn't been anybody ever hear that I know it's been kneeling or calling on me to kneel, but I can't say that you know that's certainly not beneath me I. think that if it keeps the peace if it shows everybody that we were all on the same page that everybody opposes what happened in Minnesota that no one wants to see someone's life loss. Loss senselessly and I'm necessarily sure I'd do it, but so far really hasn't been an issue. It's not been a question that's come up. It's not in your bailiwick exactly, but when George Floyd eight days ago was a need I think to death by officer former officer Derek Galvin this other three, if a similar event took place in Covington with the same fact pattern, what would you do? Well you know. Willie I can't. I can't commit to men exact fact pattern without knowing what the fact pattern is because everyone is different, but I can say that if what I've seen. It happened in Kenton. County I believe that I would have moved swifter then. authorities did in Minneapolis The one thing that really makes me shudder out of this whole deal is that this is not an easy case despite the fact that this took place on video, and obviously that video is horrible, Mr. Floyd on the ground on his stomach and that officer with his. Knee on Mr Floyd's neck. That's that's not a good thing. However, there's been already multiple autopsies done. Autopsies had conflicting findings, and one finds no physical indication of his fixation, the one rules it his fixation, but still doesn't say they had a physical finding of his six nations. There were drugs and Mr. Floyd System According to news reports anyway, obviously I've know firsthand knowledge, but my point being not that this is not a crime. Not The officers shouldn't be prosecuted, not that I wouldn't have charged the officer. It's just not going to be as easy as people think to get a murder conviction out of this case, and I really shuttered as to what might happen. You know a year two years down the road from now whenever this trial takes place if there are not murder convictions, and we're talking about some very very detailed issues of. Of Law and I think a lot of folks don't realize that this is not something that's unique to a case where police officers the defendant, but there are oftentimes homicide cases of various con whether it's murder, manslaughter, whatnot, where someone who has killed another human being either gets off with lesser conviction or maybe walks together on self defense type deal. I'm not saying this was self defense, but that's another very detailed area of law where it's complicated to get these convictions in trying to win a murder conviction on an officer for. What amounts to what appears to be positional fixation and compression of it's just not letting them breathe along with other medical complications. That's not going to be an easy case so I certainly hope for the best for the prosecutors I want them to succeed but everybody needs be patient and everybody needs to understand. This is not as simple as it might seem because what's going to happen. Is that the officer? Derek Calvin is gonNA produce expert witnesses in his defence I'm sure they're gonNA be paid significant significant amounts of money and these expert medical and witnesses are going to testify that George Floyd did not die because of what officer Calvin had done. You know what it is an expert witness case you can pay a whole bunch of money to an expert with a whole bunch of capital letters after their name that have done thousands of autopsies that will say under oath. George Floyd did not die because of the activities of Derek Calvin now. The Hennepin County Coroner is GonNa say well. It did and I guess the Baden character who's on all these corner on these big cases. We'll say they did. But if you're sitting on a jury and you're have to decide beyond a reasonable doubt, which mathematically is probably above ninety eight percent that you have one expert witnesses said he calls the death. Then you have another expert witness. WHO said he did not? Not Cause the death that puts the jury members between a rock and a hard place, because they have the right to say one witnesses, not no one witnesses right one witnesses wrong, but if one or two jurors say you know what you got that Chalvin defense witness, who's an expert who done ten thousand autopsies? And he's telling US under oath that George Floyd did not die a positional fixation. That's a hook. You can hang your hat on, and that's the difficulty in this case. In cases are always difficult because they don't fix the manner of death cause of death that doesn't always leave physical evidence, and it's UN- undoubtably fixation can cause death. We all know that, but it doesn't always leave marks. It doesn't always leave broken bones. That doesn't always. Lungs or something like that. Someone can be fixated and have no physical trauma visible on their body during the autopsy. That doesn't mean they weren't as eight, and it just means there was no physical evidence, but in the absence of physical evidence it becomes a battle of the experts, and in this case it'll be a battle of the hired guns we've already seen. We haven't even seen former officer chauvinist expert witness. Witness yet, but we have seen an expert witness hired by Mister Floyd's family, and we have seen the corner from Hennepin County, who already are different opinions and they're supposed to be I. don't want to stay on the same side necessarily, but they're not against each other and the criminal case and already we've got a diversity of opinions so when the defendants expert comes in. The there will be no doubt at least a third version of expert opinion, and like you said well. It's hired guns for enough money. You can pay a very well qualified expert witness to say whatever it is, you need them to say pretty much, and that sounds like a horrible version of our justice system, but I think if you get anybody that is a trial attorney that is going to be honest with the public about how it plays out in real courts of law did. Battle of expert witnesses how many cases both criminal and civil play out, and it really just comes down to. Who Does the jury believe and that's where my hope is. Prosecutors were went out because they do have this horrible video on their side, and there is no getting around that video when you see that knee on. Mr Floyd's neck forever eight minutes. It's just really difficult to believe that that it at least was not a significantly contributing factor, if the reason for missed floyd's death, the one thing about Mr fluids experts however. They don't attribute the death solely to former officer Chauve, and they attributed to not only officers Sovan, but the other officers who are kneeling on Mr Floyd on his body and. Specifically on his on his back, and keeping his chest from being able to rise and fall and I think if if they are only going to charge shoving then he's actually got a defense of blaming the other officer. Saying look I might have flipped my knee on his neck, but I wasn't compressing his neck. He was talking obviously he could breathe at that point, but it was the officer that was compressing his chest, who was the one that really caused the medical complications that resulted in his death? And there's something to that so I think what? Mr Floyd families expert. Makes the prosecution have to lean towards his charging the other officers as well. We'll see what happens, but for those who say this is a Dead Bang easy winner. You brought up several issues that are going to make it difficult and I would assume they're not going to be in Hennepin County I would assume. It's going to be transferred somewhere else, but I'm not sure anywhere in America. That former officer Derek Calvin can go to get a fairly impartial jury, but that's what we do in these cases now, secondly, of course Covington across the bridge from Cincinnati. Cincinnati suburb of Covington or vice versa. But, but nonetheless has there been any protest violent, or otherwise in Covington, there has been no violent protests. There has been no riding our. We did have some protesters in Covington, and they were mostly peaceful and law, abiding from what I could see, and from what I've heard, and my conversations with chief Ron. Nader and Covington Police Department They were there. They made themselves hurt. They made themselves seeing the gathered all around the police department. It caused a little bit of tensions because nobody knew how it was going to turn. Turn out I started, but there were no arrested. I'm aware of And I gotTA applaud the Covington Police Department and the assistance they got from a couple of neighboring departments that came down and helped out with security as well. Everything went well. Officers maintain their cool. The protesters exercise their first amendment, but they maintain their cool. There was at one point a situation I'm very proud of the COVINGTON police department for instead of coming out in riot gear. They came out with bottled water and ice cream for the protesters. The protesters we have kneeling. We didn't have marching share bottled water and ice cream. Everybody had a conversation. I think that went a long way towards keeping keeping the peace, and that's obviously what we want. Our officers to do is be safe. Keep everyone else safe and keep the peace. Have you put the word out to COVINGTON COPS? Look is calmed down. Don't get on video. Be careful. One of the arguments I hear from some conservative African Americans as blacks in urban areas have the most difficulty. Difficulty with police because they have so many acts of violence, being committed in the black community that they feel as if they call the police. That's a problem if they don't call the police. That's the problem. Have you put the word out? Is the chief law enforcement official in Ten County Tacoma? Down be careful. You might be on video. We'll certainly yeah. That's something that's been going on for a long time. It's not that they need me to call him and tell him to calm anything Dan. You know for several years now. We police departments no. No matter where they go no matter what they do, they're in all likelihood going to be on video. If they're not on a security camera somewhere then they're on somebody's cell phone cameras, so they don't need me to tell him to calm it down. I think all of our police during. Kentucky especially in Covington whether used to dealing with some of the more. Violent criminal activity. They're professionals. You know they're the best of the best, and then they don't need me to tell them to calm down I'm sure that there's probably somebody out there you can find. That will disagree with me and say nasty things about my police officers here in County, but I'm certainly not one of them I think they outstanding job I do from time to time I might have to remind them that You GotTa be careful what you say you gotTa make sure you're not giving off the wrong impression. You don't want people to think something about you. That is not true because I don't think we racist cops here I think we've cops a care about their community, regardless of what the color of the people that they are serving. Maybe they go to every call whether the caller is black, white, Yellow Brown. You name it. They're gonNA. Go there, and they're going to do their best to enforce the long. Keep It on Kentucky Safe, and that's what we expect from. That's what we want them. They do a hell of a job. Do you think Covington police have an institutional problem with racism? I, do not I do not I think Covington is a very diverse police department They've got lots of different variations of minorities, not just black folks, but officers female officers. You name it I think that the Spike Jones the former chief and Rob Nater the current chief, both put a lot of effort into making sure that they have a diverse police force one that's representative of the community on its well trained one. treats people with respect and one that follows the law and. Knock on wood. Hopefully, keep up, not just for Covington, but for all departments in northern Kentucky especially in Kevin Kelly, but that's you know I really think that our police department here all of our police departments. Here do what the law says they do with the community expects they work hard to keep folks safe, but they do it on a law abiding safe productive positive way. Let me share with you and Covington some headlines. Headlines around the World Chinese, government rebels and unrest in America. World outrage grows at Floyd's death in London, also apocalyptic of mutant ticks invade Russia the mutant ticks are invading Russia. That's was developed around the world. That's that's a new one I've been wondering what happened all the murder Hornets Willy and now we got mutant ticks on top of it I think the murder Hornets got shorted here. Somehow we we. The stats forwarded right. Pass them. straight into rioting and civil unrest, and now we've got mutant ticks or whatever Russia fan. That's probably the next thing they're sending our way. You know we've already wondered if the Chinese the ones that sentence the coronavirus. Now we got the Russian cinemas mutant ticks. Unbelievable I'm reading this and I'm sure our enemies around the world are reveling in this. At some point I tell those younger. Americans in my family at some point, this is going to work out. The stores will be looted. They'll be no more goods. Put in. The rioting will stop one store in downtown Manhattan at two point five million dollars worth A. A Rolex watches stolen from one store. What does that editor George Floyd's death? Well. It certainly horrible and you know it's it's horrible. Let me be very clear. It's much more horrible than George. Floyd lost his life than anybody else would unjustly lose their life. I don't mean to compare the loss of any property to the loss of life, but what really? What really makes me unhappy about the writing and the destruction and the loss of property and the dollar damage is that that's really GonNa hurt the communities where it's taking place. It's not about the loss of a Rolex watch. It's about the fact that whoever owned that shop. All likelihood is not going to reopen the Rolex watch shop back in that community, and that's probably the same whether you're talking about a watch store or any other kind of store, a butcher shop, a neighborhood bar and grill, whatever it is, that gets looted and burned and destroyed that owners probably GonNa. Move it someplace else where they don't think right. It's GonNa take place next time. And that's not gonNA. Help the community, and it just brings about further stress and further strife and for distress, and when we have stressed out folks, we have much more hostile situations, and it doesn't work out good for anybody so. I'm looking at some of the headlines. Cop Shot in the head in Vegas, he's on life. Support should sadly take off some time today. Four wounded cops in Saint Louis driver most down police officer in the Bronx and other NYPD officer, beaten as onlookers, film and Lok on mayhem is everywhere and at least in Covington there some degree of sanity. Yes there is and and knock on Wood and God willing. It'll stay that way. Willie I think people lose sight of the fact that policing is very very very dangerous business, and it can be deadly business, and you know the officers that get killed. Don't get me as much coverage as when the officer screw up and for that matter when. Somebody, that is not a minority. Oh, white person dies at the hands of an officer that to gets a lot less coverage than any time of or kill by an officer so I. Think you know we might not beginning a balanced perfect picture of what is actually going on in the country, but I think it's it's undoubtedly true that law enforcement is a very dangerous business, and sometimes the police officers die, and sometimes the citizens die, and the bottom line is. We have too much death. We have too many murders We have too many unjustified killings by police officers and we've got to just reduce the. The violence all the way around, because the course that we're on right now is just not going to work for anybody Rob Sanders all coordinate with Joe Dealers when all you can bend the knee, but we gotta go, but thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham show and keep things calm and Covington, but really if you can still find a way to save that turn low panella ice reg game this year. If we can get the reds to play, I will meet there with Jodi, and before the game starts, we can Neil March. We can share ice, cream and bottled water whatever it takes to keep the peace. Antsy that concert I'm in. Rob Sanders. Thank you very much. Take care. Willy continue with more bill. Cunningham News radio seven hundred WWL W. Billy Cunningham the great American in about ten minutes. judge over NATO will be able to talk about the old school approaches and handling riding slash protesting. There's some protests in going underway as we speak in and around the courthouse and Fountain Square were have a covered for you at this point, things tend to be extremely peaceful until the sun goes down like in New York or Chicago. CHICAGO. Las Vegas has shot. A COP was shot in the back of the head in Las. Vegas is not expected to survive, and it's a consequence this goes on and on for those not orientated toward some riots. This was a regular feature of American life for a very long time. You might recall if you do a list of Cincinnati riots several to pop up, there's about ten. Most? Recent of course was no one in which a cop was shot in the belly, but the around was he was life was saved because the round embedded the south China in a thick. Belt Buckle and also a couple nights ago. Accomplish shot in. The head the forehead. The bullet went through a shield that slowed it down. Then went into the Kevlar, helmet stopped. And a couple of inches lower than that, we'd have a dead cop on her hands. Cops all over America. We're being under attack They're being bricks thrown upon them and sprayed liquids and and rocks and bottles, and an all bricks, and all kinds of things, because that fits the way things occur at least when I was a younger person and most in Cincinnati Sixty, eight. Eight sixty, nine seventy, when I was a bailiff in Lucas County, commonplace court and with Judge Robert, v Franklin let his name be said forever. A great man, former roommate Martin Luther King Junior at Morehouse college in the late nineteen forties, and their rights taken place up and down door street. Rioting is as as American as Apple Pie. It's happened for good reasons. Bad reasons, and for no reasons writing I think depending upon the the substance of it can be effective. To have social change, but not one violent when it's violent and brings about the opposite of what is intended. One thing pointed out to me, is that? And Keith Ellison is the new attorney. General has been there about two years and He and his family have political influence and Power Minneapolis. The Governor Tim Watson Minnesota was in the Congress Democrats Course Mayor, Jacob. FRY spent years on city. Council Minneapolis very very very liberal place. And, it's amazing to me how they can hold news conferences talking about systemic racism when the mayor of Atlanta African American liberal female talks about systemic racism. The Democratic Party liberals have been in charge of the city of Atlanta for about one hundred and forty years. In Chicago Mayor Lory lightfoot talks about systemic racism in the police department, which have been controlled only by Democrats for ninety years. And so if if all these systemic institutional failures are occurring all over American, major cities, almost all controlled by Liberal Democrats, who's in charge of the institution responsible for the racism? That'd be the Democratic Party. But whenever interviewed whether it's Wolf Blitzer talking to the mayor of Atlanta or the mayor of Washington. DC It's not brought up to the fact well. If there's institutional racism in the Atlanta Police, department mayor bottoms, who's in charge of the Police Department? The answer would be. That would be me Wolf, and before you who was in charge going back in time, the list indicates there is no re Republican mayor land since the eighteen seventies, not in Chicago since the one thousand nine hundred twenty s not in Cincinnati for fifty. Years Willis Gradison was the last Republican mayor and the city of Cincinnati. If all these institutional racism is incurring, and you've been in charge of the institution for years decades, and in some cases for more than a century. Why aren't you responsible for the racism happening in your department? Bill Cunningham knows there is not institutional racism and the City Cincinnati Police Division because I trust the judgment of chief Elliot to Isaac I. Trusted The judgment of James. Craig I trusted the judgment of a police chief blackwell, and also the last three or four city managers have all been black I assume Patru Haney know exactly what's happening in the institutions that he completely controls I su- mark Mallory did for eight years and I assume John Cranley use a liberal. Democrat has for the past seven years and before that Charlie Lucan We've gone through fifty years of Democrats and almost every major city, controlling the institutions that control that city in which they live, and if there's institutional racism and the Washington Police Department, there's not been a Republican in charge of that department. Since the nineteen. Thirties, which political party is in charge of racism. That would be the Democratic Party. Either that other stupid and oblivious to what's happening I. Do not believe Xavier Graduate Elliott. Isaac is stupid. I think when he weeds out any racist cops. They're gone and they should be gone. I'm confident. The Derek Chalvin. The COP IN MINNEAPOLIS IS GONNA. Spend decades in jail very confident. It's going to happen and by the way. which political parties in charge of urban public education? Well, that would be the. That would be the Democratic Party fairly certain Democrats have been completely in charge if there would be a republican or Democrat, that would raise standards for blacks to. Accepted academic standards not lower abolish testing. How long would they do? How long would they succeed? Most regionally Democrats and many others have abolished the sat and also the act testing they don't want. To be tested. And for those Democrats mainly Republicans who want to have standards for all children irrespective of the color, your skin that person basically cannot be reelected. That way so if there's institutional bias and the police department and hiring or firing in the city of Cincinnati, the city of Chicago, Columbus, or Toledo. Lexington Louisville who's in charge. CAN SOMEBODY ASKED LIBERAL DEMOCRATS COMPLAINING ABOUT INSTITUTIONAL RACISM WHO's in charge of that institution? Answer would be. That would be us. That would be the Democratic Party. It drives me nuts when they're selective questions being asked. And I've heard Mayor Cranley John Cranley a good person, a good man. He's often said about the institutional racism and the police division. What what who's in charge of that for the last half century, and why is there institutional racism. Do you think black police chiefs would preside over an institution that's filled with racist. You can't be that stupid of course not. The typical left-wing reaction. Of the Democratic Party is more of the recipe of the problems that have caught the difficulty in the first place. So. I've heard I've seen black conservatives right about about the African American kids are MIS educated, which leads to unemployment or lower employment under employment with terrible consequences, well, who's been running the schools in America and urban areas for decades. Without be the Democratic Party. So. Let's continue with more I want to give all voices time to be heard. There's an old school approach to how these things should be handled, and I think Judge Norbert Nadel. The longest serving judge Eminem county history represents that I'm GONNA put a call into him and a couple of minutes. And until then your calls at five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, after two o'clock today is the Governor Mike DeWine cove at nineteen I guess doesn't matter. Are the protesters maintaining ten foot separation? It's absurd to continue these rules and regulations when no one's paying attention to them, except those who follow the rules, people like you and I. We follow rules. It's absurd wedding when the bride and groom by law cannot dance with each other. When to our slater, they'll be dancing with each other with their clothes off. That's the governor's rules. Let's continue with more forty eight minutes after the hour. Bill Cunningham the great American live with you every day. Let all voices be heard. Let all voices be raised on newsradio seven hundred wwl demille. SHERIFFS are kneeling police. Chiefs are now annealing prosecutors are kneeling I see North Carolina the entire line of North, Carolina police kneel down before the protesters. It's happening all over the country. That's one approach. Of course. There's another approach I often say what would side lease. Do what side least Neil would. Larry Whelan Neil Chief of police of Cincinnati for many years I tend to. To think not joining you and I now the longest serving judge in the history of Hamilton County, that's former judge Norbert Nadel and judge NATO welcome again to the Bill Cunningham show I wanted to check in with an old school type individual about whether or not what you're seeing is effective in law enforcement with the way it's being handled. Give me your reaction. Hey. Police are doing a great job, but they're being They just can't handle. The you know. The the the movement around the fudge of the thousand destructors property and I'm and I'm disappointed in public officials who want backing up the cops. Earlier we had on Sergeant Dan Hills about in your reporter who according to Dan. Hills and I've seen the videotape county came at the police officers, and now the inquiries reporting that five to seven cops grabbed Patrick Brandon, trying to slam his face onto the street, and he was arrested, and then he was released thirty minutes later. We have sheriffs. We have police, chiefs, and we have cops wave prosecutors bending the knee all over the country. What would sign a lease have done? Silence would not take this nonsense. Silence for in charge. People? If they violated. The curfew are destroyed top. They would be locked up. They would stay there and silence would have the National Guard in there, and if I were in charge, I have the national, guard. To help the police. The police are doing long shifts They're tired, they? They're doing a great job. They're doing the best they can. But many times they get outmaneuver because these thugs move from one location to another, and then there's more manpower needed and the national guards needed in here. What about the low bonds? A lot of the judges are? You've said thousands and thousands of bonds, probably ten thousands of bonds and the bonds center Oh our means owned recognises, which means you simply sign your name? Walk out the door. What do you think about that? This is ridiculous and I'm really realize a former judge I am very disappointed in the judges that are setting low bonds. This is a riot situation. It's an insurrection it's. And you need to set the appropriate bonds because you're. You're sending the wrong message or they're letting. These people walk out the door and they'll go back out and destroy property. Violate curfews and do what they're doing with your. They're sending the wrong message and I'm very very very disappointed in these judges very disappointed. So how do we change? Can you imagine if you were around back in the good old days of sixty, eight and sixty nine and back? Yeah, have oh one. What was the apprentice? The approach was real simple, but there was a curfew there was a curfew declared anybody violating the curfew. They were arrested. They were brought in municipal court. As a matter of fact, I was a city prosecutor at the time they brought they were bought before the municipal judges who set really high bonds and kept them locked up and if you keep these. These people locked up for say fifteen days. you know by that time? Hopefully, all this nonsense will be over with all I'm very disappointed. in history tells us how to handle it. You declare a curfew you lock these people up. You set high on's and you call in the National Guard and the destruction of property will end real quickly you. Notice over time that every fifteen or twenty years there's riots in. Cincinnati, for one reason or another. If you were born after twenty, oh one. You would think this is the first time this has ever happened, but in reality looking at the list that this happens all the time. It's happened quite frequently over the decades. Absolutely has and and history should tell us how how this is pretty simple how to deal with. Clara curfew Yuki. Arrestees people. The judges cooperate. They shut the appropriate bonds in an emergency situation that they keep these violators locked up and you call in the national. Guard to help our wonderful police department. It's real simple and all of the elected officials have to do is just follow history, and and figure it out, and it's been. It's already been set out for them. It's been set out for them, said Hi. Arrest people with a curfew. Shanghai bonds keep them locked up and send the appropriate message and and quarter in the National Guard. And the governor said he would do it. All they gotta do is requested to help police officers judge NATO when I look at the headlines Sixty North Carolina cops dropped to one knee officer shot in the back of the head in Las Vegas. Not expected to live. Driver mows down police in the Bronx. Another NYPD officer beaten as onlookers film. Of course we had a cop and Cincinnati shot in the head in the helmet. Fortunately, he survived. We have more officers on the West Coast. The same thing it's really incredible, the disrespect for law enforcement, and for those who say this is unique and different. No, it's not unique and different. It's happened repeatedly and for those who say the. The covid nineteen unique in different. No, we've had three of those pandemics in the last fifty years at APP. Because it's happening now we assume has never happened before, and that's why it's good to get some historical perspective from you. You've been in law enforcement directly or indirectly for like fifty years, so you have a lot of perspective. I have a lot of perspective and and all they have to do. All these elected officials have to do is follow history and see what was done and do the same things that were effective, and this nonsense will go away. I judge Norbert Nadel. Thank you for your perspective and God. Bless you and God bless America. Thank you very much. I agree and and God bless God bless you your listeners, and then hopefully they'll be safe. Judge over, NATO thank you very much, let's continue with more bill. Cunningham the great American live at your home with the reds, hope and July newsradio seven hundred WWL W.

officer Patrick Brennan Cincinnati Covington Police Department the Times Dan Hills America The Inquirer Pat Patrick Brennan Sergeant Dan Hills Reporter George Floyd editor Billy Cunningham Willie I USA Rob Sanders reporter John Cranley
1-22-21 - Mo Egger With Pat Brennan

Mo Egger

12:07 min | 3 months ago

1-22-21 - Mo Egger With Pat Brennan

"The brewers want marcelo zuma which bring up because if you were wondering if any national essential team had a pulse milwaukee does that brennan's here he covers. Fc cincinnati for the inquirer and for cincinnati dot com and. He doesn't awesome job. The fc cincinnati off season is in full swing. We the super draft. Yesterday there's a player from ud. That was taken pat by. The way is on twitter at p brennan ian q. How you doing man. I'm doing great. Thank you for having me on. And thank you for the awesome intro music. I assume you did that just for me absolutely not. That's all terribly and i have nothing to do with that. I can't i can barely do my part of the job. Much less his. Yeah i get that. tell me about calvin harris. What do have cincinnati's need to know about him. Yeah so he was the number two overall pick by fc cincinnati in the draft. Yesterday really interesting claire. This is not your typical collegiate. Drafty especially in soccer This is a guy who he's a real globetrotter mo born in middlesbrough england He's a permanent resident in hong kong Father used to play in the premier league and he moved to new zealand's to continue his playing career at age fourteen. Unbeknownst to him. There's a fee rule. It's kind of weird. But basically he couldn't play in competitive matches or practice on an official basis with the team. He with over there until he was aged eighteen so he waited it out. He dove headlong into his education and basically when he turned eighteen he took off like a rocket for this club called. Wellington phoenix there in new zealand. And it's the they are a member the only new zealand based club to play in the australian Top league and It's a it's a. It's a decent league to be fair mo and this kid basically the last two years at wake forest which is a great college soccer setup one of the elites in the country in the acc but he could have been a pro. If if circumstances within the game and some of these rules had broken differently for him he basically he could have been playing in a really decent professional league over the last two years. So he's a goal scorer He's got good size goodspeed. there's always the caveat this year mo that he could go back and play in this spring this weird spring season that the ncwa double as having because so many even though the acc played last year in the fall Fc cincinnati could put a claim on him and he could still go back and play in spring season. If i understand the rules correctly. So that's something to keep an eye on but Yeah i mean they drafted a guy out of date and some people say he's one of the best dribblers With the ball at street in the country and they got another decorated player out of australia. So you know. We'll evaluate these guys over the course of years but Calvin harris at the top of the draft class really solid. Pick a graduate of the university of dayton. I'm not gonna let you gloss over. Potentially my new favorite player. First of all i need to know how to pronounce his name. He's from norway but he played at. Ud correct me. if i'm wrong. The atlantic ten midfielder of the year or the atlantic ten offensive player of the year. One of those two either way but my guy is it yoenis berg. How do we say his name. Can he play. And will he be the next star for fc cincinnati mo- fc cincinnati failed to provide me with the fanatical. The fanatical details pronounce. That name you've come to the wrong shop there but He he really is a great player. he led The eight ten last year in goals with eleven and assists with nine which is like an incredible hall. Actually he was up there with some of the nation's leading scores so This guy also played a little bit of like soon semi pro amateur. Pd l. With the dayton dutch lions some fc cincinnati fans will be familiar with them. So guys just got a lot of experience and again then. There's a guy who is really like who fc cincinnati you could envision taking advantage of claiming him wouldn't count as a roster spot but would be essentially you know their player and he could go back to date and and they could monitor him for another year or another season anyway. This coming spring. When the when some of the league's play again so That's a really interesting situation to watch there but Yeah i don't. I'm not taking nothing away from your mom. Oh don't calvin harris. Calvin harris get it. He's calvin harris. That's fine but calvin harris is not as smart as this guy got from norway. Who went to you d. Because if he was clearly. but but. here's here's what i can help you. I'm resourceful so on the internet. I found some two thousand eighteen dayton flyers soccer game notes. Are you ready. Here's how this game right now. It's spelled j. E. l. d. b. e. r. g. according to their game notes it's fi- ellsberg so i'm going jonas filed berg. Joe joe i'm gonna say like new york jonas. We'll see all right. I'll get back to you on that calvin harris's the headliner. We think we should be making a big deal about this guy. Yeah i seriously though Like i said the guy was professional level quality two years ago so Hopefully he's a guy that will shoot the ball from unexpected angles and unexpected moments and fc. Cincinnati i it addresses and need to mow because as you and i discussed At different points along the way last season They were not a very good team at putting the ball in the back of the net. They only scored twelve times and twenty three games. Two pretty big impediment to success so even if this guy ends up being adept claire or a project that goes out on loan He is One to keep an eye on it. And i think he could break through with this team and be like a have maybe even have like a frankie level impacts where he contributes in year one outside of the super draft. They've acquired guys whose names. I don't have a hard time. Pronouncing like cody cropper. And ben minds. What can you tell me about them. Yeah well. I like the fact that we can pronounce their names. Because i'll tell you why like you know. It's the team seems to have a propensity for wanting to go overseas and get foreign players. Maybe some aging stardust and bring it into fc cincinnati. There are a lot of really serviceable american players. That you can get on the cheap to do a decent job. It's gonna cost you less money and you know there's the whole international roster spot rule you only get eight internationals unless their permanent residents or green It's just an easier way to do business when you bring guys in here. So cody cropper backup goalkeeper. He has Done his time. Over in england got a lot of experience over there. Came back to the states was Regular starter for new england revolution in twenty seventeen. I wanna say played Started in twenty eight matches that season most recently comes from houston. He's a really serviceable backup. And he's really confident. When i talked to him last week he wants to push to be the starter here so And there's a great job in goalkeeping s. cincinnati. Right now a lot of room to maneuver there. I i don't i don't think that's necessarily set in stone in terms of who's the one who's the to and who's the three And then then mines who is a winger He is twenty years old already has mls experience to be. I you know if we're being honest about his situation. The new york red bulls who are really good evaluating talent. And that's where he's come from the new york red bulls academy They cut him loose at age. Twenty so something there didn't jive and Like i said the red bulls are really good evaluating talent and they said essentially by not bringing him back or not finding a way to bring them back. We can do without this kid but you know what he played last season. He scored a goal last season. Nmls and he has an affinity for fc cincinnati because he was part of The red bulls. Us l. team When they were playing at nippert stadium in in the You know what was effectively minor league soccer here for a few years before they joined. Mls stuff this is a guy that like get. How big fc. Cincinnati is in the community. And when you have someone who genuinely wants to be here and is excited to come. I don't think you can underestimate that value of that at this point. Nasty cincinnati's existence where they're scuttling for success trying to piece things together a little bit on the fly. It seems like sometimes and You know both these guys have genuine excitement to come to cincinnati so those those two things in addition to the fact that they have A lot of room to grow and and take ownership of a large role here. Cincinnati I think that's all very very encouraging. I got two and a minutes here. I'm looking at the tweet. From don garber for the the commissioner of major league soccer where he's throwing things at the players association. Yeah they're trying to figure out the collective bargaining agreement a year ago at this time. Fc cincinnati was. Getting ready to play a scrimmage at the end of january. Were nowhere near that. What is the status of the season. And as best as you can win. Could you guess that the the seasonable actually begin. Well i can tell you that. I i think it would be in the league's best interest and i know people around the league and ownership positions. Feel this way to him. Oh if you can delay the season give people and i'm not going to get political here with Talk of the vaccine. And and covert but There's a there's a train of thought that suggests that if you give the vaccine time to kind of Spread throughout the country and get needles in arms and all that more people might be able to attend matches and ownership of these clubs might be able to recoup some of the money they lost twenty twenty. That's a really big deal. Money's often the bottom line a lot of these discussions. I tend to think that. I've heard Dates in may throwing around. I don't know if it'll go quite that late. But we're basically at a point now where they're not gonna start on time or at least when they usually start. Which last year. The first game was on march march. One excuse me so. I tend to think the season's gonna kick off in in april and that's just for the covert side of it. There's also the labor side like you said. The players association is peeved now This is the third time in less than a year. They've been forced to go to the bargaining table and Mo- to most recent times. It's because last last wanted to renegotiate players are not happy about that so i don't think there's a quick and easy solution for that either. So you've got two things kinda working here against getting season up and running. I've i i don't think it's anyone's best interest to not play. Obviously and i think they will eventually but it could be a while before we make real progress and get into things. We're usually seeing this time of year. Like preseason preseason games awesome stuff is always man. We'll do it again soon. Thanks so much all right mo thank. You have a great one man you to. That's our buddy pat brennan cincinnati dot com the inquirer. He is on twitter at brennan. Ian q it is four o'clock money's malaga. Were guests free until five. Oh five and we have tony. Pauline from pro football network and the nfl draft analyst podcasts. From the believe podcast network coming up in just about one hour at five. Oh five let's do either or when it comes to the reds next.

cincinnati Calvin harris soccer marcelo zuma brennan ian cody cropper new zealand australian Top league ncwa acc yoenis berg dayton dutch lions mo dayton flyers E. l norway jonas ben minds brennan middlesbrough
Sports Talk w/ Lance 6/1/20

Lance McAlister

1:32:07 hr | 11 months ago

Sports Talk w/ Lance 6/1/20

"This is the L. Carriers sportstalk. Presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Sports talk is brought to you by eighty door and window. They sell the best end service. The rest Trilogy Medical Services Trilogy H, s Dot Com Furniture Fair for style and Flair Grip. reposes the fun food company. Delta Dental. We do dental vetter. Delta. Oh Dot Com backslid tractor, helping you grow Your Business Julius. HOW ASPHALT! Your satisfaction is their top priority skyline chili feeling good. It's skyline time Robert Jones plumbing home of the world. Strenuous plumbers, one hour, heating and cooling comfort is just a call away Cincinnati. Ba wishes to thank all of its healthcare heroes for caring for our nation's Heroes Kelsey Chevrolet in. Indiana from our family to your Fam- Papa John's pizza now offering no contact delivery GonNa Papa John's dot com, and by RL carriers, your global transportation provider. visit us at our LLC DOT com. Now sports talk on seven hundred WWL W. Let's get to it. Six ten on seven hundred wwl W is carrier. Talk presented by Kelsey, Chevrolet. I'm Lance. McAlister thanks for making your way here. Hang out for a while. We've get three hours to get it done tonight a little bit of this little bit of that we. Will. Bring you a guest coming up in a couple of different topics along the way as well. What do you still get caught up in the headlines? And then we go? We start with baseball. Where the players union was awaiting a response from the owners. After the players made their latest counterproposal last night, the players proposal included playing one hundred twelve games. That's up from the original. From the original eighty two games, so an expanded an expansion of thirty two more games, and expanded playoffs for this season and next season, the S- after noon ESPN's Jeff Passan reports that the owners will counter with a fifty to sixty game season at prorated salaries, no further cuts. Fifty or sixty games or nothing I'll give you my thoughts on that before we're done. I think there's an inbetween and I'll tell you how I it works out in a bid. By the way, the red should be playing in Wrigley Tonight for the conclusion of four-game wraparound series from the weekend it would have been game sixty of the season game sixty of the season out major league soccer news ESPN, says a lockout looms as the league pushed back on the latest offer from the Players Association and ESPN analyst tweeted MLS is giving the players until noon. On Tuesday otherwise they will lock the players out. MLS APPROVED FC Cincinnati plan to move voluntary small group training sessions. Today was to be the first of those sessions, but an FC Cincinnati statement says no players participated in either of this morning's voluntary sessions. The mid American conference announced today that Wally Szczerbiak will be one of six new additions to the Mac Hall of fame. Serbia led Miami to the sweet sixteen. In nineteen, ninety nine was named first team all American averaging twenty four points per game as a senior, he was inducted into the Miami Hall of fame back in two thousand and eight and a college basketball note from John Rothstein of CBS sports, and now confirmed by the Dayton flyers Dayton and ole miss. Miss will start a home and home series that will begin at ud arena on December nineteenth of this year. The return game in Oxford the following year for everything else. You've missed do this. Go to my blog. You'll find it at seven hundred. WWL, W DOT, com! It's therefore you doesn't cost thing I have reds and some bengals in? If you miss interviews or shows from last week, they're always available in podcast form. Oh, I also have a newly released on Youtube over the weekend a five minute Eric Davis highlight reel. You should check out plus Jeff Hobson last week as he took his inside a bengals defensive line zoom meeting, all of it blog form. Seven hundred wwl W dot com all right. We'll begin here and doing this for doing sports for twenty plus years. I've learned that you come to me for sports. My opinions about sports and I always say working in the Toy Department of life. I offer the escape from everything else. That's going on, and that makes it easy for me to stick to sports because sports are fun, and and they're comfortable in the right up my alley, and in sports, art, life and death. Having said that the image of George Floyd being murdered isn't something. I can conveniently pass off under the guise of a I'm going to stick to sports. Reasonable minds agree that what happened a week ago. Tonight in Minneapolis was murder in that the four police officers should all be behind bars. Watching what's happened to the country, since then has left me on one hand, encouraged by peaceful protesting. On the other hand angered by looting and destruction of property. When it comes to. When it comes to conversations like these. There is always a always a quick pivot from listening. To talking. Without the time to understand. and. I'll never understand or truly feel that. The racism and social injustice felt by people of Color. I can offer to be a better listener. When it comes to these issues, I can offer to do a better job of calling out these issues and I can offer to be a part of the change. That's gotTA. Take place now I'm pretty sure you didn't tune in expecting to hear this tonight. Maybe you didn't WanNa. Hear this tonight. I just couldn't imagine putting this show together. As I my desk this morning with my First Cup of coffee, I couldn't imagine beginning the show by saying. I'm going go straight to talking about whether. There's going to be a baseball season or not. It would be my hope. You understand that. One come back. We'll get it up and running. It is six fifteen. It's Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet are carriers your global transportation provider visit? Dot, com and Kelsey Chevrolet Open for sales and service with a new state of the art. Collision Repair Center coming in July by the way coming up at seven, oh six tonight might of course from the sporting news. Who is our favorite college? Basketball Writer Hall of fame, college basketball writer, he delved into the hall of fame candidacy of Ken, Anderson. And reached out to me last week and I was very honored. He reached out for my thoughts on that. He's written a fantastic piece today for Sporting News Dot com Michael Join us in less than an hour to talk about Ken Anderson and why he's not in the hall of fame that a lot more to get to is we get rolling sportstalk seven hundred W. Six, twenty three seven hundred wwl Wjr no carrier sports dot presented by Kelsey Chevrolet we are standing by monitoring at the bottom of the hour. We will break away for coverage of the president who will speak from the Rose Garden? We're told at six thirty six thirty tonight. A brief remarks according to the the twitter account from the Rose Garden. You will hear that right here on seven hundred wwl W Let let me let me talk for a second about Joe Borough and I wrote about this today. On the blog there is There's an old adage in sports that rookies are to be seen and not hurt. And Joe Borough is the the new kid on the bengals block consider. He has not been to Paul Brown stadium since the draft Take snap at a bengals practice. But while Joe. Borough hasn't seen his teammates in person. He was heard this weekend. He tweeted. Any offered reaction to the murder of George Floyd. And the ongoing societal issues his tweet said and I quote. The black community needs our help. They have been unheard for far too long. Open your ears. Listen. And speak this politics. This is human rights. End Quote that came from Joe Berle. One tweet. twenty-seven words. One hundred twenty eight characters. From twenty-three-year-old? And yet sure it's easy to say something that any reasonable person would agree with. But, if you glance at the over thirty, five hundred comments posted on his twitter feed. You'll see the pockets of pushback. You'll see comments like make sure you cover everyone. Joe, not just black. You'll see nice pandering, Joe. You'll see you just lost a follower. This is not why most people are following. You Bud, you'll read white people on here are mad at one of their own cares about black people. That's so funny. Now To be fair, Joe Borough is, he's far from the only athlete to to to make a statement he he's not even the NFL quarterback to make a statement do a Google search and you'll see statements that have turned up by the likes of. Derek Carr. Carson wentz Andy Dalton. Tom. Brady Ryan Tannehill. But Joe a rookie. And he's a rookie without a contract. and. He's a rookie with reasonable expectations that many endorsement opportunities are going to be coming his way. It would have been easier for Joe Borough to stay quiet. And say nothing. The reality is silence would have been chalked up as him being the the the the watching rookie. He's feeling his way through the League. But as a team leader. And someone who recognizes his platform and responsibility to speak up. Borough chose to comment. Good for him. And while he hasn't met most of his teammates yet. I think his tweet can help connect them in a way that will serve that locker room well going forward. Perhaps he's words can be a step forward has. All of us on a much larger level, but I wanted to point out what. We'd I thought that was worth mentioning. Willie Anderson. Thought it was worth mentioning the former Bengal Lyman, the Bengal great, who who tweeted in response and I'm reading his twitter account before he's even stepped on the field. Joe Is showing us what kind of leader he is. Things like this. Hardly ever get mentioned by quarterbacks. It's always other positions. Thank you Joe Hashtag who day Hashtag Bengals. Ryan Clark a former steeler. A steeler. The ESPN analyst. He tweeted letting you all know now. Joe Borough is good with me. Don't care if he throws. Ninety interceptions dude stood up. This is way bigger than ball. He thinks that people are than Joe. That from Ryan Clark I thought that was worth. Worth pointing out today by the way something involving another Bengali I think is worth pointing out the Tampa Tribune ahead a story on this AH and a photo to go with it three NFL. Players who live in Tampa in the offseason, but don't play for the buccaneers helped clean up efforts in the city of Tampa yesterday. A day after looters damaged businesses in a strip mall. That group included Bengals Wide Receiver Auden Tate. He was with The Bills Receiver Ray Ray McLeod and a colts corner by the name of Isaiah Rogers with others they helped remove debris left in the wake of the the weekend riots. One player told the Tampa Tribune quote. You've got to start somewhere. There was a photo on the Tampa Tribune site in on social media of more than two who doesn't people. Opposing after the cleanup that was posted on social media, others from the community saw the group and joined their efforts at the Strip mall and they cleaned up. Shattered glass and picked up sheets, of awnings that had been dislodged and one individual set in the Tampa Tribune story. We're just trying to lead by example and express some positivity to the tough times right now. To the Tampa Tribune Auden Taytay. Young Guy. Joe Borough Young Guy. Again back to the adage, rookies often most often are seen and not hurt. And They took some action this weekend. I thought that was worth mentioning all right again. We're monitoring where to go to the to the Rose Garden minutes after after that and the tweet says brief remarks, so let's assume probably closer to seven o'clock maybe after seven o'clock news. We'll see, but I want to get into what happened today with Major League, baseball and I'm curious how fifty? Fifty to sixty games strikes. You will open up the phones after the president speaks as well because according to Jeff Passan, the major league baseball owners after getting the proposal last night from the players that of eighty two games player said we're willing to play one hundred and fourteen, and that means doubleheaders. The owners have come back today and said well. We'll play fifty to sixty games. Fifty to sixty means. What in your eyes to the baseball season? Ponder that as we continue. Thanks for being a part of the show tonight we'll roll till nine Gary Jeff. Walker served up the nightcap after that it's arnold carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred W W. Six, thirty, seven seven hundred wwl. Carrier Sports Dot presented by Kelsey Chevrolet I'm lions mcallister? Standing by we are monitoring the situation from the white. House where the president is expected to issue some what's termed brief remarks from the Rose Garden when that happens, you'll hear it right here on seven hundred wliw thanks for all the tweets tonight. twitter feed presented by barley corns. They are they are open dining rooms patios open at all locations. Check them out. Barley corns dot com all right so major league baseball has. Taken the next step forward. They take it a step yesterday. The players came out and said all right. Here's our proposal. The owners last week gave. Proposal the players thought about it last night, said okay here, take a look at our proposal and the players submitted. One, hundred fourteen games, the initial number was two player said. We're willing to play thirty two mortgage. We'll play one hundred and fourteen games June thirtieth through October thirty first. And we'll do it without taking any additional pay cuts. The owners in their proposal had said pay cuts. The players also offered up to one hundred million dollars in deferrals if the postseason is canceled or shortened by a second wave of covid nineteen. The players also offered. To endorsed expanded playoff system this year and an expanded playoff system next year. Also in the provision of players gave yesterday the right for players to opt out of playing this season if they choose. The Union's proposal says any player WHO's deemed high risk or who lives with someone who's considered high risk. They can opt out and receive both their service time and their pay. All others can opt out, but they would only receive service time and not be paid. And the thought was with this proposal at our aid. If the season is to begin in roughly a month, the response from Major League Baseball, and ultimately a resolution is going to have to come within the next week or so. The players WanNa play as many games as possible because they're getting paid a pro rated amount. They get paid for each game. They play on their contract, so they say we'll one hundred, twelve, hundred and fourteen. That's that's doubleheaders. Now think about what I said off the top headlines today would have been gained sixty. So that would have left one hundred and two games left in the in the regular season schedule that regular schedule the players were submitting. We'll play hundred fourteen. So that would be you know. That's fought four fifty four more games at one hundred two. Plus fourteen hundred and sixteen more after tonight. The players also agreed to enhanced broadcast making up players, a certain number of players miked up during the game to add to the potential of ratings and people wanted to watch something different. They also agreed to. off-season ideas such as a Homerun, Derby ended all star game ways for the owners to make more money. The owners according to Jeff Passan today have come back with the following. Let's play a fifty to sixty game season. And we won't ask you to take any further cuts on salary. You'll play for your pro rated amount. We'll take your salary divided by one hundred and sixty two. Whatever that is per game, and you'll get that per each game you play whether it's fifty or sixty games. We won't ask for any further cuts we'll. We'll go back on what we said last week. Asking some to take you know I. Think it was sixty or seventy five percent pay cuts. What do you think? Now on one hand. There are those who love. And we'll take baseball in any way shape and form an amount of games. Just give me the Games I want baseball and twenty twenty on the other hand. There are those who will say. We talked about this topic about eighty two games whether there would be legitimacy to it whether there would be any. Behind him I remember, we talked if people would accept, the scenario was the won the world championship. Is anybody giving it back or putting an asterisk next to it because it was eighty two games well. How do we look at fifty to sixty games? The owners believe according Jeff Passan tonight back on the March Twenty six agreement part of that agreement included baseball's ability to UNIROYAL UNILATERALLY Decide on the number of games played. They're not going to do that. They're still hoping for a compromise, but the owners say let's do fifty or sixty. So what's the? What are the pluses and minuses here? The owners will look and say fifty to sixty is a lot better for us. Because those games are GONNA be played without fans in the stands in the more games, we play without fans in the stands. The more money were losing. So, let's play fewer games. The players are saying well. Wait a minute. We want to play more games because we're getting paid by the gate, so we'll willingly play doubleheaders to mortgage. We'll go to one fourteen. Make it work. The owners are also saying if we only go fifty to sixty, then we end the season sooner and we don't have as big a concern about a second wave of Kobe nineteen coming that potentially could wipe out the postseason before we even get to them. Let me. Tell you what I would do. And I'm not the only one who thought of this I. Did exchange the idea with some agents this afternoon and they told me off the record. The consensus, it was a consensus. Each of them said it would probably fly. Owner say fifty to sixty player say one fourteen. Both were originally talking eighty two. What about we do this? We're GONNA play eighty two. We're going to establish some credibility to the season. A half seasons decent chunk eighty-two decent chunk, and the players will say we understand where the owners are without fans in the stands. Maybe the owner say we understand where you are in wanting to play more games. Let's do this. We'll play eighty two. And we as owners will defer twenty percent of your salary to next year. We don't have all the money that we'd like to have. We're GONNA play Games without fans at all likelihood. More on that in a second. Let's go to Jack Crumley who sets? Hustle. We've got some catch up to do between now and nine o'clock might decor see the hall of Fame College. Basketball writer from Sporting News Dot Com checks in at seven Oh eight. He wrote about Ken Anderson this week. And he wrote about and wondered about Ken Anderson not being in the pro football hall of fame. He asked me my thoughts I was very honored. He reached out to me. Mike will join us at seven hundred eight tonight. We'll eventually circle back around to this baseball news of the day. Consider what has happened. The the owners originally came out and said all right. How about eighty two gibbs? The players thought about it and they said. How `bout one hundred. Fourteen Games. And the owners thought about it and came back and said well. How fifty to sixty games which? Doesn't make it. You're thinking. Wait a minute. Why would the odors pick a lower number? And again? The owners thought is from from their standpoint games. It games played without fans in the stands means they're going to lose money, so they WANNA. They don't WanNa play a lot of those. They WANNA play fewer. Those and they wanNA play expanded postseason where there's a chance to to make some. Some bigger money, the money's the biggest thing a driving all I'll say what I said before. The president spoke in a in an will roll over into the seven o'clock hour for how legitimate you believe, fifty or sixty games would be I think there's an out on this I. think it's GonNa. Be Alright. Let's go right back into the middle of that. Let's go to eighty two and. Say you take a player average salaries around four million. You, say you play at your pro rated for eighty two games and we as owners will defer twenty percent of that money to next year when we have more money. If you're the player. What are you going to say? The owners I talked with today said probably flies so the player who would make four million over a normal season would be playing for the pro rated two million for eighty two games. The owners would say we'll pay four hundred thousand of that to you next season to get one point six million the rest of this season, and we'll catch your check for four hundred thousand next season in a deferred payment. Yes, no, maybe. That's something we can talk about after we check news and talk with Mike to Course about Ken Anderson on the home of the reds. It's aren't carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred W W. The following takes place between seven PM and eight. All, right? Let's keep rolling seven Oh. Eight seven hundred wwl w our to sportstalk unfolding. Thanks for being here. We've got a lot of ground to cover between now at nine o'clock at that point, we turn things over to Gary Jeff Walker. He'll serve up the nightcap from nine to midnight. Set Up some baseball conversation. We'll eventually circle back around to but What a treat to welcome our next guest. Usually we're talking with him about college basketball. He is after all the Premier College. Basketball writer in the country is the hall of Fame College Basketball Writer, but he is also a jack-of-all-trades for sporting news dot com, and he felt compelled to write about Ken Anderson Today Headline Sporting News Dot Com bengals legend Ken Anderson's arrival on twitter seen reminds us. Hall of FAME NEEDS HIM TO BE COMPLETE I. I was honored that our next guest reached out to me for my thoughts on the matter and I said well. I gotta get you on, so we can. We can talk Kenny Anderson so here we go. Let's welcome in Mike. DECOR SEE! How are you? I'm great length. How are you I'm okay why you write about a lot of stuff I'm curious what led you to write about Anderson. I'm still not even one hundred percent I don't follow a lot of athletes. On twitter or at the they at most of the people that I follow on twitter are. People in my end, so that I can follow you know breaking news and commentary and things like that, and so that's the majority of people folic because follow every athlete. That's going to have something to say. You'RE GONNA, follow fifty thousand people so most of the people that I follow or other reporter's analysts, that sort of thing and I don't know who it was. I tweet at ten into my time line. If I found it, I found his his his twitter really clever, and so I followed him. After that and then one of the tweets that he did fairly soon after I followed him was one those in follow him might have seen where he said about a month into his arrival on twitter. He said I'm still waiting to be verified. It's it's sort of feels somewhat like something else I've been waiting for. It's about not having a super bowl win. And when he said that I was like I gotta write about this. This is this is too good and and I. You know I I it's no secret to people who follow me on twitter, and to, and probably not to most of your listeners that I grew up in Pittsburgh, and and grew up in and in the era when ten play as as a pretty passionate steelers fan, and when when you're going when your team is going against somebody, and you fear that person and respect that person I mean that's I think that's one of the signs of greatness as you don't want to deal with that guy and and I always thought that Ken was tremendous and when? Years later I it. It became apparent that big hall of fame wasn't coming easily for him. I always have been supporter of him as a candidate, and this was just a chance to lend my voice that Mike. I'm not sure if you've had previous conversations with him. But how did you find him in talking to him? How how does he deal with something like this? Well, this is the first time I I got a chance to talk to him, but he was very accommodating. He was delightful. Speak with such a kind man, such a gentleman, and he. He said to me that that he was disappointed early on I think he got into the finalist, a couple of times, and especially the first time, and then it didn't happen. He was disappointed, but he said that lately. He doesn't really think about it much except. Usually it's around the time when when the selection process is happening now for the for the veterans. And and I guess on a rare occasion when he gets a call like mine, but he couldn't have been nicer and it was. It was a great experience atop the him and I was really glad to get a chance to do that and to write what I was able to write Mike. I always look at it from the box checking standpoint, and obviously the the super. Bowl trophy. The ring is missing. checkmark for his resume is that it mean is that what's missing? And why is not in the hall of fame? I suppose if he had won, he probably would be in but I. don't really understand even with that. I went through and during the Super Bowl era. There are I believe. Six others six six who don't have rings who are in the Hall of fame it okay, you could see like okay. Dan Marino you know Dan. Marino was probably the most gifted quarterback ever to play, and and so you understand that, but then you look at some of the others, and and he's very comparable with them, and in some categories there close to him and the one that really blew me away. Was I I? I give you a lot of creditors. I didn't quote you on this because the stat spoke so loudly or him without it, and that was when when I look you mentioned that the number of guys who have who have led the league in passer in passer rating passing what we call it, the three times or more, and you said you didn't think any other, not in the hall of fame and you were right, but you didn't say it was Steve Young Barking Roger. Staubach said Lachman Sammy Yvonne eight-man. Those are the others I mean I and the line that I used in the column was. Do you think somebody flukes their way into a list of legends like Ed. I mean. There's no way you can't do that by actually. You have to be great. To four to do it four times when you see everybody else on that list and the last Lachmann Baugh Peyton only did it three and I. Shouldn't say only, but compared to. Can the all did it three? Mike the other thing that stopped me in my tracks when I read the piece today Sporting News Dot Com. I realize it's been this long, but just reading that he's been snubbed thirty times I. Mean that's just that's gut wrenching to think it's not just a couple of times. They've passed him over the past him over thirty. Yeah it's it's mind boggling I it to me. It is unfair to to hold you know what people talk about. Super Bowl rings and like like. If he had never been anywhere near it, you could see it I mean if he was a a big stat quarterback on teams that never won that I can understand that, but that's not the. That's not the fact I mean. He played in the super. Bowl and they nearly one he had to beat Dan file to is in the hall of fame. May mostly on numbers band. All Time career record as a starting quarterback. He's not great he's. He's two games over five hundred and and Kim's was significantly better than that Kenny. Kings about twenty over five hundred, and so he, so he wasn't that I. It's hard to understand. He was a different Stylus quarterback any time when the prototype was, what was the bradshaw or someone like that? Who through a lot of bombs and maybe a lot of picks? Picks as well, but that was the way the game is played, and then along comes Ken playing and bill while system, and really kinda shows the way to the future. McCain Anderson was a, he was a two thousand quarterback playing in nineteen, seventy over nineteen, seventy five I should say and and I don't know that because he didn't play the way others did, and he got the level of respect that he should. It is a fantastic read sporting news dot, com, today and on twitter feed as well. It was it was a blast talking with you about it? You knew going in I was going to get fired up. I certainly got fired up. Yeah I kind of had a feeling you'd have to say on that. Trust me when when I will say this I'll leave you with this i. You know they. They had the centennial class. Ten Hall of Famers who were mostly veterans the people who would be considered by the Veterans Committee and and not new new. You know the what they call the modern day players and Donnie shell was one of them, and I loved I. Shall I mean I watch them for. For every game he played when I was a kid, a fantastic player and absolutely belong to hall of fame, one hundred percent, but if you stood me there, and you put me under oath, and you said which I it's. It's thousand these to which of these two along in the hall I would have had to say Ken that that's that's the honest truth, and it's not fair that he's not in. Mike you're the man. Read it on Sporting News Dot. COM twitter account at tsn might to follow along as well always good catching up hoping nude again soon, thank. Landfill is great. Thanks, Mike Decor? See from the sporting news. The Hall of Fame College Basketball Writer moved to write about Ken Anderson and the Hall of Fame Snub and think about that thirty years thirty snubs, not not a couple like Oh. Yeah, forgot about him. I'll get him next time thirty times the committee, which certainly changes in personnel over the years. Assess the career of Ken Anderson and said. Not this year. When we come back. Let's do this approach. The midway point of the show I should open up the phones five win three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one pound, seven hundred on at and T. Two things on the board here. The owner said all right. How about fifty to sixty games for the season? What I would do you subscribe to the theory I'll take fifty to sixty games, rather the no season, or do you subscribe to the Theory Fifty Sixty Games seriously. How can I? How can there be any credibility attached to a fifty to sixty see game baseball season. We'll get into that if you have any. Follow up thoughts on Kenny Anderson. We'll do that as well. Offer mine on Kenny, as we continue. Hey, thanks for being here. It's Arnelle. Carriers. Sports talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet you'll jump into the mix next on seven hundred WWL W. Seven, twenty, four seven hundred wwl Wjr now carrier sportstalk, presented by Cavalier I'm Lance. McAlister have been heavy here. Couple of things on the board. A Little Baseball Mike to Corsi on a kid Anderson I was quoted in the piece saying that the following i Mike I find it hard to take the hall of Fame Process Series, of Kenny Anderson's not in it I think it, it pulls back the curtain on the the politics of the process, the lack of of context in the process and the lack of awareness. I think there are those who will judge would judge the hall of Famers, simply on whether they wanna ring, or not I think there are those who will look at Kennedy's numbers and compare them to now well any quarterback who played then compared to now it's getting completely different game if you put Kenny in the context of back in his era and look, I've always said this and I told. Told this to Mike every every march around NCWA selection time they do that. Blind resume where you see up on the screen all right. Here's four teams being considered. Which one do you in Lissa they one laws record strength of schedule RPI or whatever the the the numbers are like which one would you choose I guarantee you if I gave you a blind resume with just the career statistics of? Kenny Anderson. Joe Namath. Terry Bradshaw Ken Stabler Bog Greasy. Not Not to talk about any of those guys, if I put Kenny's numbers on that list, I guarantee you if he's not the first, he's the second quarterback. You name on that list because you're taking away Bradshaw's championships. I know he's got him. I get it, but my goodness Brian. The guys like Urlacher and Moss in. There are guys in the hall of fame. You don't have rings. There are six quarterbacks in the hall of fame who don't have a super bowl ring if that's how can you? It drives me nuts. As does the baseball process yet? I truly believe there's going to be baseball I. I'm not the great negotiator here, but just on what I've been told by the agents I talked to today A-. To this if they're talking about games, being played, does that not at least lead you to thank all right? They really WANNA. Play I mean if it were things but. I don't WanNa, say all they're talking about down to discussing number of games to be played. Not If they'll play, I think they're going to play. I think it will be closer to eighty two games and I think that will come with. They deferral of a at least a portion of the players money into next season Miami's Berg. We go berry you on seven hundred wliw. Done I'm good. Thanks for calling. Myself, I graduated High School Nineteen, eighty-three. Yes. Kenny Anderson is the man who. Should be in the hall of fame. I was shocked to learn that he wasn't I. Thought you know maybe sometime back in the. Early nineties they would have put him in. What I read Mike's Piece that thirty times. He's been passed over that. Just that's infuriating to me. I mean. He played in a different era. Where you had to be legitimately tough. And your output wasn't the same as it is today. Yeah. He's not in Holland Hall of fame really. Bad even. I don't know I. Don do my second thing. Sure. I agree with you. Let's play based off. I agree with the players on this one, which is kind of odd for me. I think we should have more game. You know if you don't have fans in the stands. Put the game on TV where people don't have to pay fifty bucks a month. Watch the game. I live up in Miami's Berg. I grew up in the Greater Day Canaria. I remember on the weekend. One of the local TV channels all I had read game on Saturday or Sunday. I mean it was the thing sure you know. Faisal Bolic's? Court the Games on local TV. Show families that Hawk kids. Can show the kids the game and maybe get some younger newer younger fans than their a barry I enjoy this. Thanks for listening. Appreciate the call hey have a nice evening. As well you as well, thank you for the kind. Words I just know this Kenny. Anderson has won four passing titles. Four pro bowl selections. An MVP a comeback player of the year, the equivalent of the Walter Payton a year when to a super bowl, and in a historic football game, fifty nine below turned a whale of a passing performance, fourteen of twenty to one hundred and sixty one yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions and outperform Dan fouts that day. pull up the numbers and then take the names off the list Nemeth. Bradshaw Gracie Stabler Ken Anderson. Guys like that all right. We breach the midway point of the show. I'm going to make a decision I've got a piece that Richard Skinner wrote I want to get into I feel as though there's a little bit more on baseball to be discussed, but my growing concern is. The number of people who just don't care anymore what the proposals are for Major League Baseball. Maybe I'll spend some time on that as we continue. Then add in Richards piece closer to eight, o'clock five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one pounds, seven hundred on a t. r. l. carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred wwl. Seven, thirty seven seven hundred WWL W. it's ardell carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey. Chevrolet arnelle carriers global. Transportation Provider visit our LC. Dot Com and Kelsey Chevrolet Oprah for sales and service with a new collision repair center coming. In July I may have. I may have a miscalculation here. This afternoon when the Jeff, Passan report came out about the proposal of fifty sixty games, I changed some stuff on the show and I said well. That's that's baseball news. That's a proposal that would get baseball back. It might not make people happy at fifty to sixty. They may want more games than that, but it will show that both sides have put up a number of games. They WanNa play and I thought. That's something that maybe I can. I can work with tonight in terms of a topic for callers. Now my fear is what I'm getting a lot of on my facebook page and on twitter. I just don't care. That's back. That's apathy. You can be excited. You can be angry. If you are apathetic about what major league. Baseball's doing. That's not good, and that's the sense I'm getting today. Major League baseball had a chance for. To build momentum. To July fourth weekend. To become the first team sport here to to really get in this country to get back to play. To take the stage take the spotlight. and lead. and. Make people people feel good. And I'm still not convinced it of baseball returns on July fourth. There won't be excitement I I'll be excited, but what baseball has done in the meantime. Is Lose any, momentum. In terms of. It's coming. And it's going to be big. And it's GonNa be fun. And it's GONNA be exciting. And we've talked about in a perfect world. Neither side would have said anything through I have maintained. And this has been my response to most who who have expressed how unhappy they are about the process I said. Hey, nothing's changed. They said July fourth weekend around July fourth and eighty two games, and the fact is nothing has changed to derail that. Even even though they don't have an agreement tonight. Has Changed to keep them from playing July fourth weekend in playing eighty two games. That's still a possibility. And I've said that people who are up said, why are you? UPSET? Be, upset if, and when it doesn't happen, but why be upset now when nothing has changed from their original idea, we could do this July fourth and eighty two games. The problem is. The, public back and forth. The public back and forth during times of covid nineteen during unemployment during what is going on with protests around the country right now all of that. And, then you have over here, wait a minute. You want me to have an emotional connection to owners and players. Billionaires and millionaires bickering publicly about. The money and how it's going to be divided up. Differently it would have been if during this process of negotiations and it's. It has to happen that you have to negotiate a deal. And nobody's GONNA give their best deal to start. If you've noticed. Where have we gone? It was eighty two games from the owners, and the players had about one hundred and fourteen and came back, said well. How about fifty or sixty it negotiating? Think of how differently it would have been if out of those meetings after those zoom, conference calls. The comments to the media would have been. No comment. Or better yet. What if it had been across the board? Owners and players? What if it had been a standard? We continue to work towards the return of this great game. We remain on course for a July fourth weekend celebration of the return of baseball whether they believed it was possible or not. Think if that had been the talking point agreed on by both the owners and players, instead of what is being floated on the owner side. What is being floated on the players side? If both sides had set after each conference call, hang up and they turn. They sent a text to their media guy and they said we continue to work towards the return of the great game of baseball. We were made encores for a July fourth celebration. And instead you know what has been said publicly. You know what the bickering has been like back and forth buster only reported yesterday there the sources tell him there's a group of owners perfectly willing to shut down the season in order to slash the payroll cost and reduce their losses that the pirates owner Bob nutting use. The shutdown is a way to to suspend team contributions to his employees. 401k plans. Tom Glavin who was the head of the one of the spokesman for the players back in ninety four, he even said last week. Even if the players now are one hundred percent justified in what they were complaining about, they're still going to look bad. He said you're going to. You're not going to win in the Court of public. Opinion Right now. and. His buster pointed out. Keep in mind ninety four. We went on what happened in ninety four. They cancelled a world series. We know that the hard feelings that remain with some. Is He points out during that time. It was a time of relative national prosperity. There was no global pandemic and record unemployment and growing civil unrest. All that's on the front burner. While Major League Baseball. Some would say. Is on the verge of burn to the ground. because. They can't reach a deal. Sell. Note from ESPN yesterday that. I think the number is of players making it least ten million. The thought was by some what the owners proposed last week was an idea to was a way they were going to split the union. They were GonNa make the big money. Guys take the biggest pay cuts and the the lower end. Guys really would get their money, so there'd be a friction. Friction. Created there mean in the end there's only one hundred and twenty four players in baseball that make at least ten million. That's only nine percent of the pool. Only nine percent of major league baseball players make at least ten million. So how much does the fact that he high end players would be taking the biggest cuts really matter in the and yet. Over the past decade, the average value of a baseball franchise. Has increased by three hundred percent. and. Fans. Don't pay attention to that. The players salaries. Have increased forty percent. The value the franchise for the owner has increased. Three hundred percent. In fact the last four years lies five years and Major League Baseball. The average salary has remained stagnant. where it was. while. The owners are in a period of franchise growth in value three hundred percent. Now take all of those numbers. Put them into to one big basket, and if he handle a fan I think they'd all say the same thing. I don't care I. don't care what the split is. I don't care how much the odors franchises worth. I don't care how much the salaries have been stagnant for the players I. don't care how many make more than ten million. I don't care. How many make the minimum? What I care about is baseball coming back and that's the one thing. Baseball's not able to give fans at this point. Go to the phones, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one and pound seven, hundred on at and T. Levi your seven hundred wwl w. What's going on Lance? Appreciate you taking a call your. What do you think about all this well? Here's one thing I. Listened to Sports Talk Radio all day long. To and from work. Won't name the channel. and. They were discussing the same issue today. And they said well, you know. Here's the players new. New Offer. Here's what the owners are. GonNa offer. If? They're actually going to play. They're going to end up agreeing on the eighty two game schedule. and Go from there, if not I don't think there's going to be baseball. And Base Major League Baseball's dumb. If they don't come to an agreement, play they they've lost. They had a great window. Where they could have got everything going. With no fans in the stands and said Hey. Let's play. The Games would have great ratings just like NASCAR's getting. and. They're dragging their feet, because obviously just like anything else. It's over. It's A. I truly as I say this. I'm about to say they can't be dumb. Enough to blow this and yet. Baseball has been dumb enough in the past to do things. I never thought possible I never. Played! World series through quakes through wars, and yet in ninety four. The two sides couldn't agree and they cancel. The season cancelled the world series, which is still tough to comprehend, but I truly believe they're going to say look. We can't do ninety four again we're going to. It's going to hurt us. It's going to hurt you, but we have to do a deal to present to our fans and I truly believe based on the agents I've I've spent the last couple of hours talking with. It'll be something in the neighborhood of eighty two. Two Games and they'll get in. The owners will say all right. We'll do eighty two, but you gotta meet us a little bit into this. We're going to give you some of your money next year. Because we don't have the money coming in this year that we normally would, so you play for your prorated amount, we'll pay you for the Games. You play, but we're going to take a chunk of that and Diff'rent to next year. If you do that, will we're with you? Let's play baseball I think that ultimately is going to happen. I agree totally because I think the worst possible thing. That could happen is if they decide not to play baseball, no question, no question especially with the new CBA coming up. They cannot afford to not play baseball and if you don't WanNa play somebody triple A. of take your spot way I look at it. Thanks Buddy. Banks. Good here and you have a good night Yeah, I mean. I just I can't believe they won't play. But the problem developing is. I while I do think they will play I. Think there is so much scorched earth that's been going on. And I don't know if they're just going over the top with it. But if I had a dollar for everybody is told me in the last week or so i. don't care if they play or not. They've turned me off by everything. That's been publicly discussed about were they are? Seven forty nine sports talk seven hundred WWL W. Close at hand on eight o'clock Richard Skinner wrote a for local twelve dot COM I. WanNa reference maybe for a segment in the eight o'clock set up here on the back end of it. reading a piece from Joel Sherman today a post. He writes MLB's potential disaster isn't about players. Greed isn't about players, greet, he writes the players today aren't greedy. That designation was tired when it was set about Babe Ruth and Sandy Koufax and Reggie Jackson. He writes I. Get it. You played baseball as a kid and thank you would do it for free as a profession you wouldn't. No one works for free. He writes. You think the money would be better spent on. On. Nurses and teachers agreed redirect your spent money that helped Major League baseball to an eleven billion dollar industry last year, then to nurses and teachers. If there's less money in the game, players will make less money, you think the players should be grateful most are, but also we should be grateful, and he lays out what has mentioned in the performances, and he says it is as a society. We have decided to value this particular rare skill set of a baseball player. He writes you. INCORPORATIONS paid the eleven. Billion owners gave roughly half of it to the players and he wrote. This is such a good point you think the players salaries have priced you out of tickets. What about the Orioles Tigers who cut their payrolls by one hundred, million, each from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty. Did they lower ticket prices? They cut their payrolls by one hundred million each. Did they lower? Their ticket prices to reflect the savings. A lesser product. Joel Sherman New York Post I would say the same thing about the reds during the reds rebuild. Did they lower their ticket prices, and when they dropped their payroll and loss for six consecutive years. Back to the phones. How `Bout here John! You're on seven hundred W W. Hey Lance. What's going on I John. Thanks for taking my call Hey. This lays list latest proposal I think really looks good and I'm ready for baseball. Let's go. I hope there is I just I. I'm the eternal optimist, but I like the fact that both sides presented number of games. It wasn't. It wasn't anything beyond that. So I like the fact that one side say well. Let's play this money those. Let's play this many. That means they're both saying. Let's play. There's still work to do, but I like to numbers thrown out there and I think there's an in-between that will eventually be settled on. Absolutely and let me ask you this land and everyone out there listening means when you go and everyone's done this before when you go and buy a house or a car or whatever. Where do you start at? You you start to no negotiations when you're buying a house, you're not gonNA. You're not gonNA start at the asking price. Right I mean you're. You're intended and the sellers not gonNA start where they're at their lease that their lowest number I mean how many baseball people told us what two three weeks ago. It's GONNA get ugly. Meet on I think the whole. I think the whole process has been look. We're going to start sometime July four sometime in that area, and they start backing up from there and it's like. How long do they need to get ready, so it's like the last couple of weeks. It's like yeah. I mean us. Yeah I. I was ready for them to start May I if they could, but won't for every pregnant one. You have to start somewhere, so they started backing up from there, and they knew that look as long as we have something in place by. Early down that's. That's the key because. Whatever the deadline in their mind is, you know they're both going to walk right up to that deadline. Because that's just how negotiations are, nobody gets anything done done early. When you can raise the level of stress and in in in well, we're now. We're getting closer and that's when a deal get done. The clock is about to expire. They'll get a deal done they. They need to get it done, but there isn't a dire urgency, unfortunately for both sides because they're still saying we're good, because we can still start July the right now that that's why they're called deadline, and honestly I mean for a lot of people I mean I like the hundred and sixty two game schedule, but people have been clamoring for years. We need less games. We need lessons last game well fifty or sixty games here we go you talk about a micro season. We're going go. Boom boom boom gotta be in the playoffs before. We know I mean everyone's GonNa Start the season in playoff contention. John I gotta run buddy thanks. Two hours in the books. Thank you when we come back. Richard Skinner wrote a piece of got me thinking yesterday. It's the top five. What if they hadn't hadn't gotten injured? Bengals not not a guy like curse. Get Injured in a game. He he's talking about careers that were altered because of injuries the top five. What if they hadn't gotten injured bengals? It's a pretty good list. I completely forgot about one of the guys on the list. That is a head. It's L. carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred WWL W. The following takes place between eight PM nine PM. Let's keep moving no reason to slow down. We gotTA Hustle. Eight oh nine seven hundred wwl W W. it's sportstalk. Aren't L. Carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Atlanta callister Jerry Jeff Walker's in nine. He will have the latest. We have obviously past eight o'clock the curfew ineffective in Cincinnati that situation being monitored Jeff Walker on nine to midnight with more reaction to that. I offer you. The escape into the toy department of life. We run up and down the aisles of the sports conversation in this hour, a couple of different things to get you involved with we've done a baseball and the proposal the counter today by the owners who went back to the players after the players yesterday, said how about one hundred and fourteen games even more. The owners came back today and said we'll have about fifty to sixty games. There is a thought tonight that the wording of the agreement back on March twenty six remember that agreement where players said they'd played for. They get paid for all the Games. They actually play in pro rated the owners or Rob Manford. The belief is tonight according to Jeff Passan that part of the terms of that agreement on March, twenty six says if the two sides can't reach an agreement. He's he's able to unilaterally. Decide the length of the season. And go fifty to sixty games. Now. There's the thought they don't want to have to play that card. So. Here's our fifty to sixty. You say one fourteen. Is there some ground we can both cover and meet in the middle and shake hands and say play ball. Let's add this and this hour as well Richard Skinner local twelve dot com front of the show wrote a piece got me thinking over the weekend, and when I start thinking I. Say okay, that could be maybe a topic for a segment or so. There was a Yahoo Sports story last week about a former. Bengal remember Charles Fisher. Charles Fisher was a second round pick of the bengals back in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty nine. And in his first regular season game for the Bengals, he blew out his knee. And he never played. I mean think about that. I ever NFL. Regular season game. WanNa say blew it out of the back of the end zone and coverage on a play. And Trump Fisher is now an agent. He done a number of things in sports. He was a scout Green Bay packers. Seattle, Seahawks, and others but decided to join. John Thornton former bengals friend of the show. With Octagon Sports Sports Agency. They both have since moved on to. It is actually was rock nation, and now they are both with Octagon Sports. Charles represents a first round. Pick this year at Florida corner. The Jacksonville put took number number nine. So Richard was was thinking about the peace in Yahoo Sports about a Bengal player who who got hurt and play just one NFL game ever and Richard put together the top five. What if they hadn't gotten injured bengals? Not a guy like well. What if cursing didn't get injured in the playoff game? These guys whose careers were derailed. Number, five on his list is a guy. Honestly I'd forgotten about in fact I saw his name. Oh yeah that he never even and I couldn't even remember the story behind it. Kenny irons was out of Auburn, running backs second round pick in two, thousand and seven. He was the forty ninth pick overall. In on the fourth carry of his first preseason game. Blew out his knee. Missed the entire season. He got hurt again in July of the following season. And he was waived in August after a failed a team physical. The forty-ninth player taken in the draft. Never had a regular season Kerry for the bengals fourth Kerry of the preseason. That was number five number four ICKY, woods. Rookie, one thousand, nine hundred eight thousand yards, fifteen touchdowns, super bowl achey shuffle. Second game of the following season. Toward the ACL and his left knee miss the rest of the year. Missed the first six games the following year. Never the same. Thirty seven career games for icky woods. Five. What if they hadn't gotten injured number three? Is What makes me sad. As well Johnny Carter first pick overall, one, thousand, nine, hundred five could John. Carter wound up playing a total of fifty nine games. He rushed freight total of a thousand yards in his career eleven hundred to be precise. Knee injury third. Kerry of his first preseason think about that for a second Kenny Irons, the fourth Kerry of his first preseason Game Ca John Carter third carry of his first preseason game. Charles Fisher. I ever regular season game. CA- Jonah misses his entire rookie season. Played thirty one games, the next two years average just over three yards per carry. Broke his wrist in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Ninety eight one game into the season. Played Three Games and ninety nine dislocated his right kneecap. I forgot he spent. He didn't play in two thousand. Spent time with the Redskins and one spent time with the saints in two, thousand, three and four, but John Carter eleven hundred yards in his entire career number two on the list. This was a shame, David Pollack. Seventeenth pick overall in the two thousand five draft David Played Sixteen Games in his career. Starting lineup two thousand and five broken in his rookie season made five starts started the playoff game against Pittsburgh. He had eight tackles. Two for laws had a sack suffered a broken neck in the second game of his second season. Never played again. And number one on the list. Greg Cook. Fifth pick in the nineteen sixty nine draft fifth. His career spanned twelve games. Bengal start three and with him, his rookie season hurt his shoulder in that third game against Kansas City got tackled by chiefs linebacker Jim Lynch. Miss the next next game due to the injury. Turned out to be a rotator cuff undiagnosed the technology. The medical just wasn't there at the time he came back to play one game. He missed two more and then he played the final seven games of the season. But he was never the same. Missed, all of one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, all of seventy, one, all of seventy two. He Played One game in Nineteen, seventy three. And he retired. Twelve games in his NFL career after starting three, you know. And turning this town upside down. About that list for a five. What if they hadn't gotten injured? When we come back, I have a stat on Pete Rose at even blew my dad away and we'll do a little bit actually. I thought well since we've segue into the Pete Rose Story I'm going to add I'm going to give you five reds. What if they hadn't gotten injured? As we continue our L., carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred wwl. Eight twenty two seven hundred wwl wrol carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Arnelle carriers global transportation, provider visit RL LLC dot com and Kelsey, Chevrolet Open for sales and service with a new state of the Art Collision Repair Center coming in July coming up later in the hour on this date in reds. History I've got a blog at seven hundred wwl W DOT com. The blog has a little bit of this little bit of that video. Some notes who wrote about Joe Borough today and in Joe Speaking out there is just released over the weekend on Youtube a new five minute highlight reel of Eric Davis. That is worth checking out. The PODCAST, my conversation with Jeff Hobson last week from BENGALS DOT com. Bengals zoom session for the defensive line and we talked with the Joe. Speed the agent. For, a number of major, league, baseball players and minor league players. A number of people struck by what Joe mentioned during that conversation I asked him for context. In a period where we're talking about billionaires versus millionaires, what minor league players make by the way baseball? America reports one hundred and thirty five minor leaguers were released across multiple organizations, but Joe made a point. What did he join Friday night? That a player it say able say at Dayton Dragon, the average salary of a player it. A ball is twelve hundred and fifty dollars a month. For six months of the season. That's it. and. That's an average of how many years. Surviving through the minor leagues to eventually perhaps give to the major leagues right I'm I'm a? By now I'm kind of Stat Dork nerd when it comes to numbers, this number I think in this name is just a fantastic find from. The athletic. Pete? Rose had tremendous success against a lot of really good pitchers in his career hall of famers. He faced twenty three different hall of famers in his career. He hit three thirty nine against Don Sutton. He had three four against Gaylord Perry it three, forty, one against one mirasol three. Oh seven against Bob Gibson. He hit five thirty one against Warren Spahn at towards the end of his career and is The piece points out pete rose. Set The all time record for hits against the PADRES. He got a hit against Johnny padres. He had hits against a guy named Ted. The yet hits against the guy named Oscar Zamora from A to Z. and. He faced in his major league career, eight, hundred nine different major league pitchers. A career that began when John F. Kennedy was in office ended during the middle of Ronald Reagan's second term. Here's what I find fascinating. Eight hundred nine different pitchers that he faced in his career. There were three hundred and sixty three of them. That Pete faced at least ten times. Okay, three, hundred, sixty three is at least ten appearances. At least ahead against all of them. But one. and Went Andrew Baguley called this pitcher at his home in Atlanta and said Hey, you know. Pete rose face, three hundred and sixty three guys in his career at least ten times, and you're the only one you never got hit off of and the the pitcher said I, did what? He did not know. His name is Jim, Nash. Gymnast Retired Pete Rose All ten times. says. The story is a bit of a Bar Trivia that I. didn't even know says it might be my claim. Jim Nash came up in Nineteen, sixty six with the Kansas City, athletics. He went twelve and one. That year had any are a to? He was on the cover. Sports illustrated with catfish, hunter and Blue Moon Odom. In two years later. His earned run average was two and a quarter with the ACE. He still to this day holds the as franchise record for seven consecutive winning decisions to start his career, but then he hurt his shoulder. And he was traded to the braves, and he was in the braves rotation in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, what he faced, Pete rose for the first time. And, it was kinda trying to salvage his career with a bum shoulder learning a different way to pitch. And four his career. He faced Pete in four different games. They had three of those meetings in one, thousand, nine, hundred seventy. And the fourth and final meeting came in nineteen, seventy two. and. peete's final line against Jim Nash was over ten. No walks and two strikeouts. Jim Nash is now seventy five years old retired from his second career in corporate communications for Bellsouth back in two thousand and five I just think of all the wild stats, and all the Pete rose stats over the years I mean think in there are as I mentioned. There are some guys who were hall of famers. Dominant pitchers that Pete now beat didn't fare very well against Santa Colfax 175 one seventy, five against him, but twenty-three hall of famers and I think I saw those twenty-three Maki hit a combined. It was right around three. Oh five I think for his Greg Hall of. But there there's there's that guy. It seems impede always talked about how much trouble he had against Randy. Jones the PADRES pitcher. But Jim Nash of all people out of three hundred sixty three. Held Pete Rose without a hip. I love that all right here. My five reds. What if they hadn't gotten injured? Spinning off, Richard Skinner's piece from local twelve dot com about the five bengals would go no particular order I go Eric Davis. Eric went through a stretch, what eighty eight to ninety, four, ninety five, where he missed on average like thirty five games a year and Eric obviously had a Helluva career. Imagine what Eric Davis would have done. If, he hadn't faced the injuries he did miss. A whole missed a whole season because of the battle against cancer, but think of the numbers and what he might have done Gullit. Dongola done at the age of twenty seven, Major League Baseball. He went one hundred nine and fifty in his career, but he was done because of the shoulder issues at the age of twenty seven Gary Nolan was done at the age of twenty nine because of shoulder issues. May Gary Nolan in Nineteen, seventy two when he was twenty four years old, had a one, ninety, nine, earned run average, one, ninety nine, and he was still good, certainly for the seventy, five seventy six, but he a different pitcher, and just he wasn't able to sustain things, and it was out of baseball by the age of twenty. Nine Wayne Simpson was done at the age of twenty eight. Wayne Simpson in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, one at the age of twenty one. A rookie won fourteen games with an era of three. Hurt, his shoulder, never same. And last, but not least. Ken Griffey junior many at three straight seasons with the reds with season, ending injuries from two, thousand, two, three four. He missed two hundred and twenty six games think of the numbers. Junior put up in his career. Think of what he could have done with what that's a whole season, plus that's a season plus sixty games. And were more than talking. All time home run in the vicinity at least of that that bonds would then have had to have chased. Those are my five when we continue. You know how much I like list and you know what we did on Friday night with the off the beaten path topic was about sports cameos. I've got a twist on that. As, we continue. Thanks for being here tonight. Arnaud. Carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred WWL W. Eight thirty six seven hundred wwl W, this sportstalk L. carrier sports dot presented by Kelsey Chevrolet thanks for being here tonight, Gary Jeff. Walker is in at nine nine to midnight. We are thirty seven minutes into the curfew. for the city of Cincinnati further details on that as the evening unfolds. Mentioned, I'm a I'm a big fan of the list and we. We did a fun off the beaten path on Friday about sports cameos over the years athletes who've appeared in TV shows and I mentioned. That's through the athletic one. I I love the athletic. I subscribed to, and they did he list over the weekend of their Dansk all their their writers. Their favorite scripted sports shows over the years. And it wasn't until I didn't realize the first scripted show. It says it wasn't until late sixties. No scripted shows with a sports hook. Then in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty seven US TV imported the show speed racer, the animated speed Ray. He go speed racer from Japan. And then a couple of years later, they did the Harlem globetrotters which ran Saturday mornings from nine, hundred, seventy, two, seventy two, and after that, it was four years, and there were no scripted sports shows at all CBS tried and adaptation of of Jim Belton Ball, four and nineteen seventy-six lasted five episodes. It was done. CBS try to get one thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, eight with a show. That made the list August two here in a second. The athletic looked at the best. Or their favorite scripted sport shows of all time number. One on their list is my number one of all time. Friday Night Lights. The way was the the was shot. The way it was acted the way it was written. It was it was just stellar TV it was it was genuine. There was a sense it was. If you didn't know it was so real life like genuine, you thought I'm watching a documentary about this town in Texas obsessed with football, the the the coach and his wife. I Tim Taylor and. Airy Taylor and his wife I would just big fans of their characters, and it just from from Tim Riggins to. Williams to Jason Street to Lyla Garrity to to her dad. Buddy. Clear is full. Heart can't lose I just I love the show. If you've never seen Friday night lights, I would highly recommend it. It is number one on their list of the best scripted sport show of all time number two. And this is this is a heck of a number two and I wish it had lasted longer because the cast they assembled spectacular, and I will watch anything that Aaron Sorkin did or does into the future. This show lasted two years. But the the scripts were were witty, fast paced. They didn't dumbed down. Sport says the athletic says it tackled complicated uncomfortable issues. It was sports night. On ABC and Sports, night was like. ESPN sportscenter like behind the scenes of what a sports center would be like on ESPN, but it had a felicity Huffman and Robert de own and Josh. Charles and Joshua Malina in Peter Peter Kraus's -ie. I mean just a really outstanding cast and. The fact that only lasted two years just is so frustrating because it was so damn good number three on their list. I HAVE DVD A box set I've ever show on DVD I. Don't have a DVD player anymore, but I've got every show on DVD nineteen, seventy, eight, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty one. CBS. The White Shadow? Remember the white shadow chip? Can Howard took a coaching job in the inner city former in the show, a former Chicago Bulls player of blew out. His knee got a chance to coach a high school team in the inner city in Los Angeles it was a TV drama mostly African American cast. Including the principal and the assistant principal they dealt with. Sexual orientation drug use and disabilities they. They weren't afraid to tackle any. Is You at that point? It lasted three seasons. Episodes Warren Coolidge and Morris Thorpe and James Hayward and Salami big fan of that show. I'll run through a couple of more of these out of time for all number. Four is Brock Meyer now Brooke. Meyer is still going on. Hey Zara is Jim. Brock Meyer a play by play announcer baseball. Who I watched the first season had a meltdown lost his GIG. Classic meltdown by the white lost his gig wound up in the minor leagues like an independent team in the middle of nowhere. I season was good. Second season came off the tracks. We gave up on season number two I mean it was. It was really a train wreck, and now I'm told in Jack Crumley said this Jack Hermelin the newsroom says it regrouped and kind of rebounded in in season three and I think I don't know whether they on season four or five now they've had some pretty cool cameos over the years. George Bragg Joe Buck Bob Costas. Maybe I circle back around, but the second season. If I remember correct I, think it was to gave up, was just utterly preposterously bad. Never saw number five on their list eastbound and down HBO two, Thousand Nine Two. Ten then came back twelve and thirteen. We'll. Fair was an executive producer of that but I. don't believe I've ever seen an episode of eastbound and down coaches six. Coach was a heck of a show. The Minnesota State Screaming Eagles Craig. t Nelson was Hayden foxe. abeille assisted by Jerry Van Dyke, who is Luther and assisted by Dr And that show tackled some. Tackled steroids they tackled NCWA violations for buying meals. They even had a quarantine episode of all things in coach which ran. Ran Eighty nine and ninety seven the League is at number seven that was the the group of childhood friends and their fantasy football league. Watch a little bit. It wasn't a big Fan. are less was eight from HBO. As. They athletic says left a mixed legacy. One of the first TV shows based in the professional sports world. A Robert Wool was a was an agent. And man show had cameos with Hank Aaron at Floyd Mayweather and Brett Farve and Dale earnhardt and Barry Bonds. It's also been cited is one of the worst shows at HBO ever produced according to some? Watched, a couple episodes wanted a big fan glow number nine. I have not watched glow. Everybody insists I should watch glow. The netflix fictional fictional series about women's wrestling set in the eighties. Jack Crumley sworn by that Req- Chino has sworn by. Glow! Ten with speed racer. Eleven ballers Twelve Cobra Kai the spin off the youtube. TV SPINOFF OF KARATE KID. playmakers was thirteen I would move that up because playmakers was so good and uncomfortable. Good to the NFL the NFL and a power play a toll ESPN not continue airing that series and ESPN had a partnership with the NFL. And what the NFL said ESPN had to do, but you talk about a real light drama. The what behind the scenes of the? Every uncovering everything about the NFL everything, including the steroids and everything else the addiction to painkillers, domestic violence, head and neck injuries. That was a really good one, and that was a really good cast in the NFL. Put Its foot down had said you're done. I think it lasted one season I in fact I don't even know if they got through the entire for season in two thousand and three. All right. So the other ones are. If you subscribe the athletic, you can look at the entire list. hang time is number nineteen I'd move that up. I want to hang time. Hang. Time ran from ninety five to two thousand. Julie Kotter joined a boys high school basketball team in the fictional town of deering Indiana it was a Saturday morning. Staple for five seasons is the athletic, said all the trappings of a corny nineties teen Sitcom I still liked it and I was hitting the teen see ninety five. I would have been to twenty nine years old. I was I was watching time at that. Reggie theus was the original coach Dick. Butkus took over Kobe, a cameo on Madras shod made a Cameo Anthony Anderson got his big break at show, then went on later day even bigger in the shield, a good show but the real star was. The actor who played Julia Connor Dan Yellow. Do to share I don't know how to pronounce your last name. As the athletic rights object teen crushes and inspiration for young girls the I remember Julie Kotter so that's a look. Some of the anything else that I really liked and their top twenty. I think that was about it. you know what Pitch Pitches Sixteen? Kelly I watch pick pitch and that was four years ago on Fox. It was a story about the first woman to play in Major League Baseball Jimmy Baker. Was Her name on the show? And it was it dealt with the complexities and everything involved in the challenges she faced. What's his name? Paul Paul. Paul Michael Glaser. He was in that. That that if if you can can watch it, some I don't know what it's streaming somewhere, but that whether you're a baseball fan or not. That was a pretty good show. Lasted one year, so it Dan at sixteen, hanging with Mr Cooper was seventeen in I. Watch that as well. We'll come back. We gotTA Hustle. We'll do on this date in reds. History squeeze in a couple of calls as well. It is eight forty seven Gary Jeff Walker is warming up and ready to deliver you the nightcap tonight from nine to midnight. This is sports. Talk Seven hundred WWL, W. Music tells says it's time to go back in time. Look on this date in reds history. Let's go nineteen fifty-six, trailing the giants three to one in the bottom of the eighth at Crossley Field Frank Robinson steps out of the batter's box to argue with home plate umpire Larry Gets. GETS ORDERS GIANTS PITCHER Steve Riddick to go ahead and throw his next pitch he does. It's called. Strike three all heck breaks loose Johnny Temple as ojected Joe Nuxhall is ejected the most surprising thing and reading about this in red journalist. Frank Robinson was not ejected. Reds lose the game three to the final score. This date nineteen, fifty seven. The reds hit seven. Seven home runs pound out twenty two hits in a twenty two to two drubbing of the cubs at Crossley. Frank Robinson to home runs this date. Nineteen fifty eight Johnny Temple Hits A it's an inside the Park Grand Slam in game, two of double header at Connie Mack Stadium. The game was suspended in the ninth-inning at eleven eleven because the Pennsylvania curse. Curfew Law said Games on Sunday half to end by seven PM. This one was going to run past seven PM game of the doubleheader, they resumed it on August the tenth, the reds one in thirteen innings this date nineteen sixty three. ooh, how about this one Closley Field Joey J. Out Duels Sandy Colfax one to nothing. Nineteen seventy five. Jack Billingham spins a complete game. Five hitter in beating the cardinals Busch Stadium five to one time of game. Two hours. And two minutes. This date, Nineteen seventy-nine Pete. Rose returns to Riverfront Stadium as an opposing player for the first time with the visiting Phillies in a game ceremony, the reds presented him with his nineteen seventy eight reds. Mvp Award Team Mvp Award. He was given a standing ovation, and the reds announced that day. No one would wear the number fourteen again. Pete Rose Junior did in nineteen, ninety seven on this date in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, two, who I hesitate to bring this up. It was draft day nine, hundred, ninety two. With the fifth pick in the nineteen ninety-two, Major, League Baseball, amateur draft, the Cincinnati reds select. University of Central Florida outfielder Chad Mottola. Derek jeter was taken next by the Yankees. Chad Mottola. The fifth player in the draft played thirty five Major League games with the reds hitting to fifteen. He played fifty nine major league games with a career batting average of two hundred. What happened to that Jeeter Guy? Nineteen Ninety eight on this date, Lenny Harris tosses a perfect eighth inning. Lenny heiress in relief in a sixteen two three loss to the giants, he recorded a strikeout in finally this two thousand and ten Joey votto four hits in a home run Scott Rolen a home run. Reds beat the cardinals at Busch. Stadium Ninety, eight to move into first place in the National League Central Division all of it happening on this date in reds, baseball history This is disturbing on twitter. We mentioned. We're now fifty six minutes into curfew Pat Brennan. Brennan has been arrested by police. Pat Brennan is the Enquirer FC Cincinnati writer friend of the show helping out on this beat tonight for the Inquirer and I'm looking at video now on twitter where Pat Brennan wearing a lanyard, identifying himself as a member of the media has been detail has been arrested and hauled off by three or four police officers, prompting this statement from Jeff Pasture, who says just spoke with the city manager about press being detained right now he spoke to chief Isaac and the situation is being corrected immediately. So there you go situation unfolding fifty seven minutes under curfew Gary Jeff Walker, dealing with that and more tonight for three hours with you as he serves up dose of the nightcap from nine to midnight all right, let's take care a couple in the mall. I get out of here. Get the news. How about Dayton Kentucky Jerry? You're on seven hundred W, W. Gary On. I had talked you story a while back about Pete rose. Playing against a semi pro guy, knocking him all over, but yeah, this was about Eric Davis. I was fortunate enough to play his personal party at Lumpy Cain. Surf Club with abandoned band. And he was probably the most humble person I've ever met in my entire life. I mean what an on. He was just so good M-. Remember Mars. They left behind. And you didn't give a celebrate, and we were fortunate enough. The band lot fortunate enough to be able to play his party. How `Bout just a down to earth genuine guy while my God, so go and another one. Yeah, all nail, Paul. Newman was a drummer. I did not. Play that song, his favorite songs about thank Sally and was not a mile. And he was fun. The drums saw the off beautiful. Jerry thanks for calling. All right take care have a great night. Let me I rented out one more. How about any Comington John? You get the final word. What do you got for me? I feel honored. Biggest, shame in my opinion as far as reds getting hurt or injured or whatever Nicholas ASCII. Promise but much potential. Right nine Blatty thank you. Absolutely Nikolsky had it was he had his best season after he was traded to Boston in the Rob Murphy deal had thirty home runs I think he may have driven one hundred then suffered about vertigo, and was never the same, tried a tried with the braves, but really became too dangerous for him to step into a batter's box and deal with the verdict, the chance it would come back or even play the field and and deal with the Vertigo Nicosia and he was probably well here when I pull it out I'm going to guess Nicholas. Ask, you wouldn't have been more than. Thirty thirty one years old when his career ended. Let me see if I can pull this up here to instead of curiosity to complete the show I want to be precise. He would have been thirty years old. How about that? Yeah the? Season with Boston nineteen, hundred nine got MVP votes. Thirty home runs one hundred eight rabies that year for the socks and then that I, think that offseason. He signed I say he signed the big deal with the braves in suffered the first bout of Vertigo and What a shame say That's man I've forgotten him from that list. Thank you all right. I gotta get Outta here I. Thanks for hanging out tonight. Hang Tight Jerry Jeff Walker will take you to midnight with updates that all. All that is going on in. Certainly your phone calls as well. The news is ahead followed by the nightcap on the home of the rent seven hundred. Of You.

baseball Kelsey Chevrolet Major League Baseball twitter Ken Anderson Mike Decor Basketball Jeff Passan ESPN McCain Anderson League bengals reds president Joe Borough Joe George Floyd analyst Ryan Clark
Another Team Takes the Gridiron

The Cincinnati and Dayton Sports Podcast

43:28 min | 7 months ago

Another Team Takes the Gridiron

"The. Covering sports in the Mid West. It's the Midwest Sports Network, and Wfan Dot, net. It's episode one eighty this delayed edition of the local Syndey Sports podcasts, amber wrapping up week to with final scores and a couple of tidbits around local sports plus it's almost that's The Twenty Thousand Cincinnati bengals season starts Sunday. and. We'll talk about that more on the Cincinnati Dayton sports podcast and. to the Cincinnati and Dayton sports podcast with Lee W, Mao and. This is a weekly audio podcast covers all sports in Dayton and Cincinnati Ohio and the surrounding areas from northern. Kentucky and the Ohio River Up to Lima in Allen County from Richmond Indiana and the surrounding Whitewater Valley region to Madison, county and surrounding areas. If you want local sports, this is your source to find your favorite way of listening to this podcast as well as visiting the public in red bubble shops and find the latest episodes. Please visit Syndey pod. Dot. com. This opening theme was created with the splash APP, and now it's time for another episode with your host Lee w Maui. It's that time again. Sorry for the delay on this newest episode of the Cincinnati Dayton sports podcast. But a couple of tidbits before we begin for the Cincinnati swerve they have named a head coach for their indoor men's soccer team and manny. Gye. Mania Gye, if you recognize the name, he was player on the Dayton Dynamo two point Oh and I believe he's been playing soccer with Cincinnati, for quite some time. So many had jive will take over for the Cincinnati Swerve Men's soccer team for this upcoming season his six season with the swerve organization after playing with Cincinnati for the past five, he's earned all-star accumulates named first team all ASL to and most recently part of the Two Thousand Nineteen Asl National Championship team. So, basically someone the knows the product very well with these nice word is now the head coach, which I think is a smashing higher. One time head coach of wouldn't woods high school soccer from twenty, fifteen to twenty eighteen. Yeah I definitely think a Gye will. Do quite well, he'll take over for Craig, Ross who will remain in the organization as an integral part. So definitely. Hopefully, the season begins soon, according to the press release here Ed set to begin in December but. New head coach for the indoor soccer team and Cincinnati. So. Now we talk about week two scores in Ohio Week Three Indiana scores and starting tonight we'll start week one of Kentucky High School Football. So we'll definitely get you scores of that. When we can, for episode, one, Eighty two. So again definitely sorry for. This late release of this episode but. It's been a busy week. I can't believe it's already Friday. But here we go your week two scores for southwest. Ohio we start off again at the Cross County Conference, a battle of North and south and if you put. Now, if you pick the panthers to win, you be right as tri county north defeats twin, Valley South Forty two to seven, and this happened in west Alexandria. So t C. N. picks up. A win on the road elsewhere in the CCC fort. Laramie defeats BETHEL's sixty one to seven national trail defeats Bradford forty-one Seven try village coast to to go by declawing and Sonia in the Tigers fifty, six, thirty, five, it's Covington forty, three, Miami East fourteen and our CANHAM. Sales Pass Mississippi Valley Forty eight to twelve to the southwestern Buckeye league eaten picks up their first win the year as a feet. Oakwood. On the road ten, seven value to an and again they defeat Monroe, on the road thirty, one, seven, Brookville forty-two, Carlisle six, bell br shuts out Franklin a very good wildcats squad thirty, four to nothing and I think I read through the comments. This might be bell works best team ever. So the Valberg view game happening tonight that's huge. dixie picks up their first win the greyhounds two nor Fridge Twenty, four, twelve last time those two teams will battle each other on the gridiron s WB L. members Waynesville. forty-two Preval Shawny seven. Milton, union, Slinky's past Middletown Mass in thirteen twelve. To the Miami Valley League Stevens Takes Care of Sydney twenty two to twenty fairburn knocks off West Carrollton forty, five, thirty, two last football game for two weeks for West. Carrollton they have a couple of cases of the Cove Ed Tippecanoe twenty-eight Greenville Zero Troy thirty, four, Xenia seven and pick roles big over vendela Butler forty, three to eighteen in the greater western Ohio Conference it's Wayne over Miami's Vert thirty five, twenty, four spring borough of roles seventy seven points on the Beaver Creek beavers and a win that seventy seven sixteen. And it's not even the most points that are in the final scores spoilers. From ought to defeat Kettering fairmont twenty, six, an over time a fair watches, Springfield push past Centerville thirty, one, twenty, four in fact, springfield wanted about thirty seconds into Ot. In the central Buckeye conference, we have another overtime affair it Springfield Shawny Thirteen in Belle Fountain six Jonathan Alder thirty-five Kenton Ridge seven London twenty-two comes to seven North Union with the shout-out over Indian lake thirteen to nothing north western rolls over Abana forty, one to seven and one more ot affair for good measure grand thirty-three Benjamin Logan Thirty two, and the Falcons Graham are to know. A couple of Jesmyn, my local score sheets, I moved some conferences around. So now we talk about the Ohio Heritage Conference I and we start off with mechanics Berg taking down. West Jefferson thirty seven to twenty, nine, West Liberty. Salem Takes Down Triad Twenty seven twenty it's Green View thirty four southeastern zero and green and twenty four Springfield Catholic Central Zero Fairbanks thirty-five northeastern twenty to wrap up oh. Eight see play. In the Northwest Central Conference Up North in Lima and the surrounding areas Lima Perry fifty-six wrestling thirteen hardin northern forty-eight Ridge Dow eighteen, Riverside thirty, nine, Lehman Catholic seven, which according to social media. That's Riverside's first ever win against Lehman Catholic ever. WAYNESVILLE thirty four, ridgemont fourteen and Mary Elkins Sixty upper saone valley eighteen. To the western Buckeye League as we stayed North Elida. Ottawa land or fourteen seven Saint Mary's to an elegant. They defeat Watkin a fourteen seven. Redskins were without eleven, other starters, things to Cova. Lima Bath twenty-one Kenton Fourteen Lima shawnee fourteen line six and Van Wert fifty, six, defiance twenty. And in the Mid West, conference to wrap up the Dayton area for sales twenty devils Saint John Seven Marian local twenty one new bremen thirteen bow the squad's Saint Henry Forty four and a thirteen cold water forty nine Minster Fourteen Fort Recovery forty-three Parkway six. No scores in the Dayton city league although I believe D, C l play is set to begin. Either this week or next week Cincinnati Metro Athletic Conference not so lucky on that stands says Cincinnati public schools will meet again on the fourteenth this upcoming week to talk about false sports but then again will. Already be and week four of high school football if they agree to it, so it'll be interesting to see. Now. The Greater. Catholic. League. Nice. Win For care on the road they defeat Shamanov Julianne Twenty, two, seventeen at Roger Glass Hamilton, Bayden fourteen alter twelve and the peyton rams have won their last few matchups against the Knights Mick Nicholas Thirty Bishop Fenwick six the first game for the Fenwick Falcons they missed the first one because a Kovin and Saint Xavier Twenty Four Lasalle ten I one of the year for the bombers. And the Cincinnati Hills League we have. Wyoming. Defeating marymount forty, two six for the thirty four. Thirty first straight. Win for the cowboys or to Ano riding fifty-six Finney town thirteen Indian Hill fifty to Madeira seven and deer Park forty-five Taylor thirty five in the Greater Miami conference I had to call on this game at quite entertaining shootout. We already had twenty one points in the first quarter Princeton Defeats Sycamore Twenty seven to twenty the second time since two, thousand, eight, the Vikings got the best of the aviators Lakota West. Forty two, thirteen winners over Hamilton. Coleraine picks up their first win after having a long winning streak in the GMC snap by Lakota West colonels back in the winner's side of the scoreboard, they defeat Oak Hills on the road thirty, two nothing fairfield thirty, five, middletown thirteen first game of the year for the Mideast and Mason to and how they defeat Lakota East Twenty eight twenty one in eastern conference whitten woods gets their first taste of e c play they knock off also another newcomer team unlimited in Twenty, seven, twenty, west Clermont Thirteen, loveland seven Turpin forty-nine Milford Fourteen I believe all the forty nine points came in the first half by the Spartans also, kings rolled over Anderson, seventy two. Actually going to have to check I think it's like seventy thirty something so I can't believe forgot to put that on there, but luckily, I did re tweet it. So let's go look real quick but yeah, it was that was a high scoring game as well. Kings is a really good squad. They got a strong running backing Taya. Steel Ski who last year when I first saw him, he scored five touchdowns against the Loveland Tigers. So, definitely it's seventy two, thirty, four nights over Anderson can't believe forgot to put that on my sheet but there we go. So Nice. Win for kings to start off their football season. To the southern Buckeye athletic and Academic Conference Wilmington versus bacteria did not play because his cova cases on TV side of things Bethel Tate forty-one East Clinton eight new Richmond Seventy, seven, western Brown sixty one. You can be assured that there are several times I had to blink my eyes hard and says I scored at someone royally mess up on scores Stream. But now that is a seventy seven, sixty, one win for the new Richmond Lions. which by the way, in case you're curious. That is a total of a hundred. And thirty eight points, which is more than the two basketball teams have scored since twenty ten. I know seventy seven sixty one elsewhere and the SP double A. C. Bland Chester Thirty Clermont Northeastern Nineteen Fayetteville twenty-seven Williamsburg Zero and Clinton massie fifty seven seven to the Southwest Ohio Conference. A big result here has tyler wanda defeats Harrison Seventeen to seven. And the brave win their first game against Harrison since nineteen, ninety five. I know that's a long time. Great. Win for head coach Larry Cox and the Tyler Wanda brave edgewood slices past mount heavy twenty one to twenty over the owls and Ross. forty-one northwest thirty six. In the Miami Valley Conference. Looks like there's a couple more scores that I have to pick up. Really wish a double check this before but that's okay. I'm sure I can pull it up quite easily. Well, skip that one for now, Roger Bacon to zero they rollover Cincinnati Hills Christian Academy forty two to fourteen Lachlan a big shot out win over Miami Valley. Christian. Fifty one zero by the way Miami Valley Christian. I. Believe they're not playing football anymore due to lack of healthy bodies. Not covid related but injury and low body related. So. Let's scroll. Real. Quick. And see if I can find that score. Actually, it's probably better if I just search it isn't Yeah. See we know how to do stuff here. It is Saint Bernard Twenty Six. Cincinnati Country Day zero. Norwood rolls over Summit Country Day forty-nine Thirteen and North College Hill Defeats Cincinnati College Prep Twenty Two to twenty now, the big moment of truth. The new Miami, Vikings result. Believe they won. And they did thirty to twelve over purcell Marian. Resolve by new Miami, believe that's their first football game of the year as well. And outside non-conference, which there aren't a lot. This time will head to central Ohio now I spent a long time putting all the scores into the conferences I'm not GonNa do that again just because of the fact that there are a ton to cover and I just WanNa get through them as quickly as possible for. You know listenership sake. But here are your scores from the Columbus Ohio area we have Bishop Hartley picking up their first win over Bishop Watterson twenty. Twenty one westfall thirty six seen traits. Twenty one chillicothe coffee. Three Washington seven. That's Washington courthouse. Bickering ten central forty-nine Newark Zero. Grow, Port Mass and forty-five Reynoldsburg fourteen. If you look on score stream, it's listed as an overtime win. I said forty-five Fourteen That campaign overtime win. Or you going for like the what. Thirty two pointer or something like that. Dublin Kaufman twenty four tandy liberty seventeen central crossing twenty-one Lancaster. Eighteen Gaon Lincoln forty-nine Westland seven pickering. Thirty four Westerville Central Twenty Hilliard Darby thirty-one Marysville twenty-eight Upper Arlington seven Hillier Bradley six Dublin Jerome Fifty Six Thomas Worthington twenty-one all on Tanny Orange Twenty Hilliard Davidson seven. Tanzi forty-five Danger Berlin thirty three new Albany twenty-three gross city seven Ashland, thirty nine at Mount. Vernon six canal winchester sixty four Franklin Heights Fourteen Westerville north twenty four Delaware, Hey, seven Westerville south fifty big walnut forty one now the High Scoring Affair Whitehall yearling twenty two granville high excuse me grandview heights fourteen liberty union defeats bexley Forty two hundred nine Worthington Christian winners over Miller Thirty One zero Columbus Academy Twenty Harvest Prep Ten Grove City Christian Fourteen Fisher Catholic seven Bar Union fifty four Fairfield Christian Academy Zero. Hamilton. Township their first win the Rangers. Rover. Logan forty-one Eighteen. Taste Valley forty-two fairfield union thirteen bloom Carroll shut out winners thirty-four nothing over circle. Ville Watkins Memorial forty leaking heights thirteen johnstown monroe. FORTY-NINE UTICA twenty-one he fifty five northridge. Seven. Granville Fifteen zanesville seven new Lexington Forty West Musket fourteen center Berg thirty-five Crestwood twenty-one Amanda Clear Creek Seventeen Logan Twelve in Saint Francis to sales thirty-five Mansfield. Twelve. And now you're non-conference tilts. I mentioned this game painesville Riverside Against Miami for that Riverside School, they had to travel two hundred and fifty miles to get tomorrow and they pick up a nice thirty five to nothing. Win on a Friday afternoon against little Miami mccomb twenty-eight Troy Christian Fourteen Mass Planes Twenty Six Cedar Ville. Thirteen landmark Christian twenty-seven Dayton Christian fourteen. East Central Indiana Twenty Muller six elder forty two floyd central fourteen Lima Central Catholic thirty-five Licking Valley Thirteen and Lima senior fourteen klay. Ten. That would be Klay Out of the Toledo Area Oregon Clay to be precise. and. That wraps up Ohio's we head to e Central Indiana to talk about the one north central conference. Result Richmond falls just short at Arsenal tech fifteen to seven. That's an Indianapolis in the Eastern Conference Shannon Doa upset Centerville, twenty, two, seventeen bulldogs suffered the first loss in year in week three. Union City thirty-four Hagerstown Twenty Seven Nights Town Fourteen Union county twelve atoms central forty-one try zero and winchester fifty-five northeastern six in the eastern Indiana Athletic Conference Lawrenceburg Forty Eight Milan fourteen Greensburg twenty-eight Connersville twenty-one Franklin County Sixty Seven Rush Ville eighteen and Batesville thirty four South Dearborn seven and in the Mid Indiana Football Conference Lapel twenty-six North Decatur Thirteen Odenberg Academy forty-six Edinburgh Forty and Switzerland County Nineteen Rock, Creek Academy twelve and that wraps up scores for week two in Ohio Week three in Indiana and. preseason for Norfolk. Kentucky schools. Again, their season starts tonight across the river and Ohio. So definitely looking forward to give you more scores. Do off you the. Biggest selection of scores around the area. No college scores to reports thing you see season starts later this month. And NFL scores yet. But that's what we're talking about. Knicks on the Cincinnati Dayton sports podcast we'll step aside to tell you about stores, red bubble and t public. Hey folks do you like stickers Suga do what about mask mugs, notebooks, phone cases, throw pillows, backpacks, and even wall clocks. If you like any of those things check out REMM BUBBLE DOT COM, you can search for the Cincinnati Dayton sports podcast and click on either the main alternative logo or you can visit my press kit at wwl dot com slash podcast and click on either podcasting logo from there you can choose anything you might need from red bubbles massive selection Like. I mentioned there are tons of options and a very good showing of new phone cases. You might need every purchase you make from these stores on red bubble comes back and helps out yours truly I. Myself have purchased a sticker or two from red bubble and they are very good quality. The more stickers you buy the more of a discount you can get. So what are you waiting for shop? The Cincinnati Dayton sports, podcasts, goods brought red bubble red bubble. Listeners you can buy the Cincinnati and Dayton sports podcasts merchandise. Thanks to t public. You have a strong choice variety from t shirts, sweatshirts, and hoodies, coffee mugs, phone cases, magnets, stickers, notebooks, totes, and even more t public also holds frequent sales to where you can save up to thirty five percent off on just about everything. visit the Lee W Malan Dot com slash podcast then click on the blue shop my store Tepe. Public Button. A portion of each sale helps out the podcast. What are you waiting for where the gear supporting the local Sunday sports podcasts? Thanks to t public again, visit the Lee w dot com slash podcast. Click on the blue shop my store at t public button t public. Guess what I have to do next week after get. Because I didn't realize have the address on them. Now, if you want to visit those stores, you'll visit Sunday dot com and it's right at the welcome page. Just click what shop you're looking for. T public has a lot of clothing stuff. Red Bubble has a lot of. Various goods and stickers so definitely. Check. Those out against Sunday pod dot com also still giving out free stickers. Just DM me on twitter at the WWL and or at Sunday pod. Or even facebook me just reach out if you want some stickers and I'll send you some stickers. It's really that simple and also if you have a preference on which logo. Because I'll send which one you rather have. It's the alternative logo or the primary logo, the primary logo I did myself and I'm still quite proud of it So anyway let's head down to the gridiron again to talk about. The Twenty Twenty Cincinnati bengals season it starting this Sunday as Cincinnati will host the Los Angeles chargers. This'll be a four zero five kickoff Albion CBS TV in Cincinnati that's channel twelve and Dayton that's channel seven and in Lexington Kentucky is channel twenty seven. Your broadcasters on CBS. We'll be Kevin Harlan definitely one of my favorite broadcasters listen to so I'll probably watch it on TV. got. Trent Green and Melanie Collins, your analyst and sideline reporter. If you don't like TV, you rather listen to your games on radio. You have the Bengals radio network in Cincinnati at WC KYM ESPN fifteen thirty also on the FM waves W. E. B. N. one or two point seven with Dan Horrigan Dave Lapham. Also. WWL. W once the season ends. Actually when the rights game ends, Sunday started to fifteen eastern that no switch it right to the bengals game. So definitely keep an eye out keep an ear out for that if you listen to Muslim on seven hundred. You might want to start off at fifteen thirty or one or two point seven. FM, of course, has the better audio quality. So you might want to listen to it there in Dayton it's on a one four point seven FM. which is wwe. And I'm not sure what Lexington has it under. Again Dan Hoard. Our previous guests this podcast Dave Lapham will be the radio voices and also it'll be aired nationally on Sports USA radio. With broadcasters Larry. Khan the play by play man and analysts Hank. Bauer. Sports, USA radio I. Feel like. Non Thinking sports map or something it doesn't really matter. So, yeah Your first bengals weekly of the regular season is Sunday eleven thirty am local twelve Cincinnati. And today there'll be a PEP rally Friday at three on fifteen thirty. So. I'll listen to on the way down the coal rain. Which I'll tell you what I'm broadcasting next so I WanNa talk about the bengals and I like to talk about. Joe Borough. We have yet to see throw nfl pass just because you know the season hasn't started yet but the bengals have a tremendous amount of confidence in the young man which I think it's quite warranted. But something happened for the first time since twenty twelve and borough has a captain C on His Jersey. You have to go back to twenty twelve when Andrew Luck was with the Indianapolis Colts and he was a captain for that squad. So it doesn't happen too often. But from what I understand seems like borough has very strong understanding of the game. He's got a strong standing on how the team works. I still think my biggest fears are the line. But I think Joan Williams returning. That should be okay. I thank Joe Mixing, he got his contract extension. Make him the highest paid. Running backs in the League I definitely think what the contract business behind him. I think Mixon's due to have a good day. Now, of course, the chargers on the other side, they have a pretty nice defense but since at home with no fans. So probably piped in knows and probably a lot of people listening on radio watching on TV. I think it's going to be good battle and I think the Bengals have enough to get by the chargers. chargers are a very good team as well. But. I'm interested see this matchup. And I think you know the Bengals can? Definitely. Definitely. Pick up this win. So go to Bengals Dot, com, you can read about the opening season. And, definitely, twenty twenty year that we pretty much think about covid nineteen but. Aj. Greens look like he's raring to go. So he'll be back on the field. For, the first time since December second twenty eighteen. Ten year pro and the NFL why received during the pro bowl nod in each of his first seven seasons. Six thousand yard. Seasons to his credit. And his second in Bengals, history in career receptions with six hundred to. Eight thousand, nine, hundred, and seven receiving yards in tie for second in touchdowns with sixty three. So definitely I think. Aj. Green Bowl come out of the gate strong. I think if Joe Borough can find him. It's going to be. TOUGH STOPPING AJ. So definitely. Very excited. In case you're wondering what the records are you like numbers like that. The bengals are fifteen and twenty one against the chargers lifetime including seven and ten. As the home team against Los Angeles Slash Sandiego slash Los Angeles. The bengals have however one for the last five regular season meetings including the last two in southwest Ohio. The. Most recent meeting. Go back to two thousand eighteen in La. Bengals one, twenty, six, twenty, one. Now. Of course, the biggest game in the series to since fans you have to go back to the freezer bowl. And the eighty one season were it was quite chilly and the chargers coming from California. Don't really have a lot of cold weather heading that way especially being in San Diego. NFL RECORD MINUS FIFTY, nine degrees. Wind Chill Riverfront. And the first game in the series. Was the very first regular season game for Cincinnati in California following twenty, nine thirteen. For the Bengals and season openers twenty, four and twenty eight overall. And Thirteen and twelve at home I home opener for Cincinnati since the two thousand seventeen season against Baltimore. Just, the second time the bengals will open at home. And the last eleven seasons. So very excited to see what the bengals can do. Hopefully, the injury bug stays away from. Everyone really. Because like I mentioned, you're GONNA have all hands on deck. People are predicting the Bengals to win five and a half games which you know. That's you know. You can't really win half a game. So I mean you tie but that's not really the whole spirit of the thing is it but. Yeah I I'm looking forward. To. Hearing. And watching. What this team can do. The bengals are thirty and twenty two impasse home openers including thirteen and thirteen years when the team opens its regular season home. And for the bengals six four in the last ten home openers. Now, historically, if you win your first game. Ten Times at fourteen, you'll qualify for postseason and that's about seventy one and a half percent. With the bengals winning the opener. So. Definitely. A good game on TAP. And I definitely think the Bengals have enough. To pull it out. Now, let's talk about the reds and FC Cincinnati wrap up episode one, eighty one. Wanted to make this a short episode just because yes, I have more stuff to do after this. Louis. Casteel picks up his first win. He picked it up against the pirates last week. He's now one in five and he's set to start this game at Saint Louis. Cardinals have had the reds number. This shortened season they'll be going it's Adam wainwright who's four zero and two point six, eight era guess steal one, five, three, point nine, five year. Definitely. Didn't think that Casteel will be Owen five before picking up his first win. So. Let's look at the standings. Registers recently dropped the series in Chicago against the cubs and that puts. The C H C squad three games up on second-place Saint Louis. So definitely, big series for Saint Louis as well. There are three back of the cubs first, but they have a wildcard spot. The five and five last ten they have a run differential plus twenty seven. And at Busch Stadium, the cards are ten and nine. against. Teams. That are greater than five hundred, they're nine and eleven. Thousand Nine, hundred eighteen the kernels are there in second place there to up on third place Milwaukee, nineteen twenty two cincinnati fourth place by three and a half games over Pittsburgh Nineteen, and twenty, five, three and a half out of the wildcard spot and Pittsburgh Fourteen and twenty seven, ten back of I and seven out of a wildcard spot. Reds. Have a negative twenty seven run differential. And Trevor Bauer mentioned why this press is media meetings. One thing that aggravates him is this is an inconsistent team, all aspects and definitely agree on that. How can you spend one hundred, sixty, five million dollars in the off season and you're looking outside Looking on the inside on the playoff bubble. Again three and a half out of the wildcard spot as what Cincinnati is. And your leaders in the national and American League in the NFL East. It's alanna still three up on Philadelphia and three and a half up on my Miami. Rather brave twenty, six and eighteen. They made a little bit of a splash yesterday you might heard that twenty nine to. Was it twenty nine to nine score against. MIAMI. Yeah, that's a lot of runs that gives the lineup plus fifty three in the run differential and Al. West still belongs to the dodgers there three and a half up on San Diego seven a monstrous season. The padres are dodgers thirty, two, thirteen, padres, twenty, nine, seventeen. In the American League Tampa Bay up three and a half over the Toronto Blue Jays and five and a half up on the Yankees of New York Al Central the league goes to the Chicago White Sox Twenty, seven, sixteen, one up on the second place twins one and a half up on the third-placed Indians. Although minister in Cleveland is separated by half a game. In the Al West, Oakland still maintains the top at twenty seven fifteen. The athletics are six and a half up on the Astros and eight and a half up on Seattle. So. Let's see if we can find that wildcard. Thing. Here's the postseason standings. Nice big button for me to look. So if the season were to end today, you're wildcards go to the Cleveland Indians in the New York Yankees in the American League in the national. League. Be The MARLINS and the giants Miami and San Francisco. Your. Playoff seeds will look like this dodgers braves, cubs, padres, phillies, cardinals, marlins, giants, and the AL it's as raise white sox twins, bluejays, Astros Indians. Yankees. And Looking. From the outside would be the Orioles Orioles. Are What is that a? Came in a half away from New York. Detroit Twenty and twenty three mariners, angels, royals. PICKED UP A big win over Cleveland last night as their starting pitcher singer went seven. No hit innings. Red Sox and the Rangers and the NFL on the outside looking in Colorado Milwaukee New York. Mets Cincinnati Washington Arizona Pittsburgh. One of the things I don't understand. Is the fact that the reds made that deal to get Archie Bradley and right. You remember that trade it just happened what last week. But yet, they still go to a glaciologist as the closer. That's the one thing I don't. Terribly understand. But I'm not part of the coaching staff I don't really have any. Experience on that. But. We will go ahead and tell you the last tale. Of Hellas Real. This one took place in Columbus and the first half was. Scoreless until Columbus. Port. In three goals in the second. To, take the win it's three nil crew over FC Cincinnati, and the Columbus team goes to Oh and one against FC Cincinnati. So. FCC As back in action tomorrow Saturday. As they'll travel to red bull arena to play new. York. City F C. Red Bull Arena, they don't play at. Play at. Yankee stadium anymore interesting. And case you WANNA watch this game. It's on star sixty four it's also on the radio at wd. J. O. Ninety Nine Point Five FM one, zero, seven, point nine, FM or fourteen hundred am also on tune in FC CINCINNATI DOT com outta market will be on ESPN plus. And also FC CINCINNATI DOT com slash stream. So the SEC sny squad, they haven't scored a goal in. Quite some time over four hundred minutes and I think if I go scoreless and like the first forty minutes. Of Their next game, that will be the club record. Let's scroll down. Here we go from Pat Brennan. From P Brennan E. N. Q. on twitter. These streak is now at four, hundred, eighty, four minutes I thought it was four thirty something club records five, hundred, twenty, seven minutes without a goal consecutively. FC Cincinnati two, six three. And? Yeah, it's. For the FCC offense go I still maintain the fact if you add a couple more pieces defensive line if you know have. A way to fix the offense like think this still could be very good team but. So far they really haven't. been able to score goal in nearly half nearly five hundred minutes. So let's do a little math. Everyone likes math on podcast right? Sure you do. Again, the club record FC Cincinnati is five, hundred, twenty, seven minutes currently, the streak is four, hundred, eighty, four minutes without a goal. So basically in the forty five minutes, FC Cincinnati will break their club record and less they score a goal. And I said Got New York City F. C. WHO is towards the top of the table. I believe it's still Columbus crew. That's. On top. But let's go check it out real quick. Then we'll sign off for this week. Definitely enjoyed talking sports review again. Sorry about the. Time delay on it. But, we do have the crew leading the way at twenty three points Toronto FC not too far behind however twenty one the Philadelphia. Union. Eighteen Orlando City S C sixteen New England Fourteen Montreal thirteen with New York City F C. so little bit further down the table than I thought, but it's still the same team the handed Columbus that first loss on the year Elena united and the New York Red Bulls at eleven points each and DC united ten and on the outside looking in Nashville SC FC Cincinnati Inter Miami cf and the Chicago fire. So yeah I mean, it's looking great for the Franklin wildcats for FC. Cincinnati things are starting to Brian Up, but it's still tough with no offense being in. So a couple juicy details for we sign off one, eighty, one, yours truly reach twelve hundred, broadcast twelve, hundred in one broadcast as got two calls on Sunday Sports, DOT COM With Sean, stood him as Franklin wildcat soccer held a doubleheader against the dixie greyhounds dixie boys one one nil Franklin girls one four nil in their matches and definitely, really fun to see soccer especially since I didn't think soccer would be coming back in my life. Until winter. Still. Don't know how that's GonNa work out, but we'll find out when the time happens tonight I will be broadcasting Princeton Vikings, football Friday, the eleventh. Lb at Coleraine high against the cardinals Princeton to Coleraine one and you'll be able to watch this game. Yes. I said watch on Watch S SPORTS DOT TV. Now this is a paid service mind you pay for just the individual game you can pay a monthly fee or an annual fee to get everything in the library or you can just pay that one time fee to watch Princeton at Coleraine. I saw the machine that's going to be working. With for the new live video streaming and it is quite a nice piece of machinery. Fact. It's very expensive. It's like a leaning. It's like a slanted screen inside a computer and you livestream from that which. It's awesome. So definitely a little nervous just because you know me I talk on audio and radio, and that's you know. That's my expertise. So to say, but I'm I'm feeling confident and I'm ready to go. So it'll be my first time at Coleraine and first time seeing the cardinals from my own is heard nothing but great things about coal rain and talking about the results. Of Cincinnati Dayton high school football I talk about Coleraine. Successes all the time. So definitely really looking forward to it and hopefully you can watch it again watch HFS sports DOT TV or nation dot org and I believe one time payment is eight, ninety nine. And there's a little coupon that they give you esp gives you. The save a little money on that so Okay, that is the end of episode one, Eighty, the Cincinnati, Dayton sports podcast. Definitely. Great to talk to you again. Sorry it's a little bit late. Hopefully, we fix that for next time. Stay safe. Thank you for listening to this episode of the Cincinnati and Dayton sports podcast with Lee w Mao in. Be Sure bookmark Syndey, pod, dot com, the official website of the local Sunday sports podcast. From there, you can find your favored way of listening to future episodes on platforms such as apple podcast, Google podcast tune in Pandora spotify the iheartradio APP and more. You can also find the red bubble and t public shops there too where all podcasts merchandise purchases go to help the podcast or. Follow, on social media at Syndey pod and delete W Malan on twitter facebook instagram. This closing theme was created with the splash APP. This is Lee w Malan saying thank you again for listening and we'll talk more local Cincinnati and Dayton. Ohio sports next time.

Cincinnati bengals Ohio Dayton NFL Twenty Twenty Cincinnati football Columbus Academy Twenty Harves Miami Miami League Columbus Lima Mid West reds New York twitter Cincinnati Swerve Men Westerville Central Twenty Hil Cardinals
Jeremy Lance Interview

The Cincinnati and Dayton Sports Podcast

1:13:13 hr | 10 months ago

Jeremy Lance Interview

"It's Day five of streak week on the Cincinnati, Dayton sports guest, and we reached episode one sixty or our guests will be Jeremy. Lance and Jeremy and I have worked together a bunch actually in our careers and I definitely enjoyed interviewing him on this episode. Just a reminder streak continues. We'll have three more episodes after this one, and then we'll release them back at a fairly normal schedule. Maybe if you like streak week, let me know on Sunday, pot or Lee. wwl On on twitter, and maybe this'll be a yearly thing I. Don't know, but. Here's Jeremy Lance on episode. One Sixty of the Cincinnati Dayton sports podcasts. It's episode. One Sixty of the Cincinnati Dayton sports park guests were our special guests is Johnny Lance. A commissioner. gotham soccer sideline reporter for High School Football on W. M., O. H. Half of the wrong side of the pond podcast soccer play by play gun for hire and former public relations, director and play by play voice with a since Nice. Saints Dayton. Dynamo we're talking local sports, broadcasting and more on episode one sixty. Welcome to the Cincinnati and Dayton sports podcasts with Lee w Maolin. This is a weekly podcast covering all sports in Cincinnati Dayton Ohio from Lima to the Ohio River and Northern Kentucky from Eastern Indiana to Madison, county, and all points in between. This is your source of local Cincinnati and Dayton. Ohio sports visit the WWL DOT com slash podcast. The find your favorite podcasting platform music created with the splash ab time for another episode with your host Lee w Maolin. We have Jeremy Lance Jeremy. How are Ya. Lee I'm doing great. It's great to hear from you. How's everything during this quarantine for you? you. Know, it's. Like, most people were kind of. Uncharted waters. It's certainly is different. So Jeremy. You do a lot of great stuff. You're commissioner of Gotham soccer. You are sideline reporter for High School Football on W. Moh and also half of the wrong side of the podcast are wrong. Side the pod, and also a very good soccer play by play guy. yeah, that's. That's the resume, and also we work together. When the Dayton Dynamo were up here in Montgomery County and you were with the Cincinnati Saints before that move to. Correct so let's begin. Where are you from? That is I. I always laptop that one. That kind of a bit of a loaded question, because I've moved so much so. I you know I was born in the Chicago Area Wheaton Illinois. I. Moved to Milwaukee when I was like three lived there. Forget that childhood The by-in-large have spent most of my life in Cincinnati. Mainly grew up the West Jeff area went to Lakota East High School. but yeah kind of just been in southwest Ohio for the most part. Fence about the mid nineties. Can you remember love your stops before getting to Westchester? Yeah, you know. I remember Milwaukee I have really no memories living in Chicago or anything. Fair enough. So when did you decide that you wanted to become a broadcaster? You'll I think. I. Think there's a few factors played it I. I always wanted to be the center of attention I always wanted to be the one that everybody was watching when we were you know. As a family hanging out in the living room. I always wanted to be putting on a show and and. Whether I was you know making up a song or pretending to be some character that I invented of? You know even back in. Middle School and Grade School I had like one of those. Hawk boys that you got A. Famous in home alone. I had I had one of those and I would literally make. My own radio shows with those in my bedroom. so I do stuff like that at a pretty early age, which is kind of a weird thing for a kid to be doing, but that was that was me. I was also got obsessed with David Letterman Nah even back when I was like in. Elementary School. You know always interested in that kind of talking. Had that performer always wanted to do that? I was a kid that like most people group in the nineties I watched sports center, and all that stuff. religiously girling up though. Obviously sports broadcasting was always kind of like the super cool to do like. That's all the cool guys gate, is they were they were on sports center? You know, Kenny Mayne and all those guys Thin was. Part of it I think radio is always that thing that. I was a big fan of even as a little kid. I would I still to this day. I can't sleep. with, just no noise so I I have to listen to a podcast or something now back and I would have a radio and I listen to. You know a redgate late at night. As I was falsely for kid more I would listen to random, talk. Sports talk shows or other talk shows. And became obsessed with a lot of those i. was someone who grew up. Listening to guys like Jim Rome Dan, Patrick you know. I, even listen to their the guy that does not a sports show. Just, an amazing radio show named Phil Hendrie, who was syndicated all across the US, and he was literally make up his own guests and characters that would call into the show so I was just always in love with radio. So that was always one of the things I always wanted to do is get involved in that. Do. You remember any of your radio shows back on the. Talk Back Right. Yeah I'm a little Tom Talk Player. Yeah I. saw. I I had a persona that I would at my parents, but they were just in town this past weekend. They always won't miss a chance to make fun of big duping better to the kid. And I had a persona. The character's name was Dave Budapest Day. That was my on Air Persona. You know I was thinking. Originally. The talk boy didn't come to mind. You know those little records like the Bax. That's why I was originally thinking of like Oh yeah! Yeah where you could get a few seconds, and then hit the button, and it would just keep playing it back. Because many times be one. Yeah. I don't know why I thought that was what you were talking about, but I remember the big cassette recorders i. Talk Way. I think it was home alone two, wasn't it that was Kevin. US! Yeah. He got a large pizza from that and I was thinking yeah. You had a radio show and all I did a mind was just make fart noises, and just playing backwards all the. Different different talents right, you know everyone's got their own flavor exactly. So when was your first big break when you decided that you wanted to be a broadcaster and you got your first shot. What was it? I mean there was there was obviously where we're you. And I met we back in in college back right state on the campus radio station there that was kind of a first tasted like actually getting to do radio So that that was probably the first one I. Think is four that you know in high school? I got to do was on the morning announcements. Where had like video morning announcements and and you were really supposed to just kind of say like you know. Hey, there's A. There's a meeting for you. Know the. That's Club you know on Tuesday at four PM. and. I that's all it was supposed to be and luckily I had a teacher who is pretty cool and he'd let us do some. Some goofy things with it and todd, I kinda Hamid up and have fun with it, so I I love doing that, and that was kind of one of the first things I got to do. and then obviously a fright state healing the radio, and then and then after that You know after that I want. I went to I went to the broadcasting schools here in Cincinnati. And from there. One of the first break I got was an internship opportunity. To. Become a sports stringer so it a stringer in. Is kind of an industry term I guess, but it really just means a freelance reporter, so I would go. And I would go to a reds game, and I would sit in the press box and Canada's hang out there and call and store updates, and then at the end I would go around. And get audio of. Players and managers, and they're not just cut it up and send it off to the company that you work for. Neighborhood stand it off to. All the people with the network, all the radio stations and then network so that they could use it so now. I break stumbled upon that a guy who was teaching at the school. was doing that himself, but he is scheduled got a little bit. Christie off games I started kind of picking up the slack for him. and that was that was one of the big ones. Do, you remember when you're i. play by play broadcasting break was. I'm trying to think I. Remember what you did like I. Think Baseball game or two together at one point in time in college. I think before that I did things heights slot. Try to remember what they were but I think play by play. Honestly my first time, really just being the play by play but I was. For the Cincinnati Saints I was. At a little bit of experience doing some stuff in college high school that was. Kinda minor, and only you know had maybe a pretty limited experience in it. but I had already started the wrong side of the pond podcast, and we had the odor of the saints on, and they were kind of making their big announcement that they were going to be heading up to the N. T. S. l., and they were trying to make a run at it of making it a viable product in the sense, market and one of the things they wanted to do. was. Have Their Games on public access, or the people watch it stream it online, and they needed a play by play team, and so I kinda. You kinda just through my name out there without really going like Oh, yeah I I definitely know what I'm doing. and they kind of just gave me a shot to run with it and my. PODCAST partner who is a DJ Sweitzer who's a former collegiate soccer player. was able to. Jump in and become a a pretty decent. Commentator since he knew the game very well, and it was, it was a pretty natural transition really just came from like. Just going like Oh yeah I do that. They're like. Oh, you can. I was like. Yeah, SURE WE'LL! We'll find out. You know I. I was glad we were able to work in college radio, but there's one regret will actually to But the one was, we never got to call hockey game together. Now, remember I'm trying to remember right the hockey was that just starts. Or that we were just trying to get that, the station was just trying to get that done where they could actually do that. Right? What because I remember? We had some limitations as far as what we could broadcast. We in just the we couldn't get the equipment and a line run out like half the field the school. Yeah. Well the long story short is we had to use. A Flip Jack and we had to use the cell phone to connect it, so that's in the days of the flip phones and everything, so the sound quality was a bit poop, but we were. A. Soccer to right like I want to say the first year that right state and they didn't have the capability for us to go out to the soccer field. And actually call those. Baseball my first year sports director. We did fairburn football, and then the second year I said. Let's do soccer and I've found out. There is a phone line alumni fields press mix so. We, we had to sit on top of the you know. We should have done soccer to now. I think about it, but yeah. We had sit on top of the old press box. Because the all one you could fit like two people. The new one is beautiful. It's nice. You can fit like a bunch of people like three. No, you can fit more than three, but it's A. It's a beautiful new press box, but yeah, that's what we had to do. we would need a simple phone line. And I remember trying out at Kettering and they gave me how I think. They gave me a voip lying and it doesn't work with the old circum- Y-. Rust in Peace Donald thing but. We had to use cell phone technology to Broadcast Radio Hockey and I remember I was so terrible at it I actually talked about this a second. The last interview I had someone had to give me a rule book for it so yeah. Yeah I mean I think. I I went one time when the. I'm trying to wasn't the Dayton it was I think it was the Dayton bombers? When they were there that I think they were there for maybe one year. While we were at Wright state now I think they've eventually pulled it like. Most of those teams end up doing I WanNa say the guy and he works in day now. Is it JT Zaba? Yes, he was He's actually a guest on my podcast. I record his interview last night and He went to play by play guy for the bomber. Yes, and he actually I kinda connected with him, and he invited me over to I think it was actually one. They were playing against the cyclones night. He invited me to come and like kind. Sit In for a period with them. And I did anyone is like the most nerve wracking thing ever 'cause? It's like Oh, okay. I grew up playing hockey. Game, and then just it's just. It's just moving so fast and you just like. Where you on the fourth floor and under center. No he was actually. It was a way game with actually at US bank arena whatever calling now. I think while its Heritage Bank by think yesterday I was about to call it. Hickory banks like WHOA. Where did that come from? Heritage banks of banks that so famous that no one against Cincinnati is actually heard. Do they actually have a branch in Cincinnati or am I hope they have a stadium in Cincinnati now, so you might want to. You know. Maybe open up a couple shop there, guys. Here we have the now. That's good enough. Anyway I. Mean That's that's a lot of great memories and Let's go to the Cincinnati Saints You mentioned wrong side? The pod with DJ Sweitzer right. Switzer Sweitzer He played collegiate soccer at Ohio northern with the polar bears and you to have. A long tenure podcast that was at seven seasons something like that. Yeah. We yeah it. twenty thirteen when we started so yeah. I thought it was a lot older than that. I don't know why did but yeah. It's a great podcasts for those that Love Soccer I. Definitely recommend giving Dj and Jeremy's podcast. A look see and you know. Give them a link after you know all said and done. What is it like to have a not only a long tenure podcast, but? Like a media company that helps grow the game of soccer in southwest Ohio. Yeah. You know what I'm so. The the wrong side of the pond kind of brand would started out as just the log. Dj started up because he he had just finished college, and he kinda got a real world job and he was living in a different. He was living in Kentucky away from most of the people he knew, and so he didn't have anyone to. Talk about soccer with no, he was like well. I'll just start a blog, so he started that and then couple years later I run into him. At the weirdest thing I don't know if you remember this, it's your. Say it out. Loud people and they're like I don't think that actually happened. Wigan Athletic's had just won the FA Cup in England and they were doing a hugh s who were. And for some reason that I don't even think they fully understood. They agreed to play the Dayton Dynamo. At pick wha high school's old. Stadium Yeah allographs. The grass was probably a footfall. And and so DJ and I were one of like the one of the few media people I. Think I think Daily News. Stand like photographer and then. I was there for w MOH like Gotti oppressed house for this. Because this is insane, you know this. Team that just wind. Defeated Manchester City and one at the FA company in England is going to be playing. At Cua. Stadium, like this is the most insane thing I've ever heard of so I'm GonNa. Go and try to get past that so I had ended up covering it and DJ was really another media person. That I saw there, and so we, we talked maybe one or two times online and and Finally that in person Ed from there we were like. Hey, let's let's do something. We both want to talk about soccer. That's both are passion. Let's. What if we did a podcast off of the blog? The already had. Actually. Originally, we were going to do a radio show I was working for a short-lived radio station called FM one hundred the fan in Cincinnati. where I was a producer there and that it's the weekend hosting and. And we just had this big meeting about hey. We want to do a lot of local content on the weekends. You know we're a lot of times during the year. We don't have a lot of stuff or playing. We haven't got a bunch of contracts as far as being like the the flagship station of any teams. So. Let's just do a lot of local programming. You know anyone can do it. And so I I pissed. The whole thing was like hey, let's what about a soccer show and I remember. David our. Production, our program director was like I. Love It. Let's do it. The hockey's the next big thing and that's going to happen in this country. Let's. Soccer and let's let's go after head. So. I I go tell Dj like Hey. We're GONNA who radio show. Awesome. We'll do it on Saturday mornings. We can really do like right after the game. Generally are on like ten am kind of the main window that matches her on Saturday mornings. Like. We'll just go on right after the ten am matches. And talk about like Tremor League and talk about all you. Got Saga here locally, it'll be so awesome like two weeks later I'm leaving bengals training camp. And get pulled into a teleconference meeting with everybody in the company and they're like hey. You're all fired. We're going back to an oldies station. And saw like okay. I guess I'm not doing that radio. Show anymore, so then I was like. Hey, let's just you know podcast. We've been yeah twenty. Thirteen is when we started. And yeah. We've been going strong ever since, and it's it's fun to. Do something. Talk about something you walk on a weekly basis like Ross half. It is yes US getting together. And having a beer and talking about soccer, and just turning Mike's on at the same time. I do Miss one hundred point three FM when it was sports and Jeff Baku was also on that station, too, wasn't he? Yeah he he would come on, and do you read suggestion I actually we and a friend of Mine Ricky Chino, who worked still at seven hundred W W we were supposed to have this radio show the afternoon drive show the. And on Real topped sixty in that that bombed out after three months because I stopped showing up because they stopped paying everybody. And then rick was still there and. In the middle of Red Seasons like Jeff was like on the road the whole time, so it was all pretty quickly but yeah, we Jeff Jeff, was there a. Richard Skinner Hammock the afternoon show. And it it was. It was a really good. You know concept for radio station, but. The corporate. Heads I. Guess didn't see the you know the money. Be You made or the ratings? Going up fast enough so all the plug after like I think it was only around for like eight months. It was a shame, too. I mean hey more sports stations better I wish we had. You know sports stations up here in Dayton, but yes I mean even in Cincinnati. He liked being a pig market you have. You really just have one actual sports station. That has local content. You just have fifteen thirty, two thirteen sixty s syndicated stuff all day and in seven hundred. Early at news station and just reds, and then you know ten brew has his weekend show and the little smattering of thing but. Hasn't been in such a long time this city. Like an actual sport station that you have most big cities where you have. Lineup from six am to six PM of local content. and. That's a shame I mean. That's kind of why I started this podcast because there's great sports. And I. I think the situation's a little better in Cincinnati but the same time. Just I feel like you know since nineteen sports. You know there could be a lot more love for it so. Yeah I mean there's plenty of people that like fourth and WanNa talk about it and want to listen to stop, and and the few shows that do you know the land mcallister's Mo- eggers like those guys get believe in pretty good rating because they're literally one of the few. Outlets you know here in Cincinnati. And I like listening to both of them and. Exactly it's just I. Don't know that's another topic for another day I could I could go on on that, but let's wind back to the Cincinnati Saints. What was your first year like with? The team was the first season like with the saints. now you know the first season for me was awesome like I'm looking for soccer team I'm helping run their media relations. I'm doing their. You know their play by play. which you like doing soccer platelets play. I always wanted to do something like that. And getting that opportunity was so cool And I it was, it was like a perfect setup where I. I get paired up with a guy. Already been doing podcasts with for years, so it was just a very easy transition It was a great organization had a lot of great ideas. And was really past about trying to make soccer. happen at a professional except natty. And so from that standpoint, it was awesome, obviously on sealed the team ci was not good. Luckily they're they're the few in. They have different at home. which were the broadcast? As far as I had to interact with, it was, it was more wins and losses, but A rough season And so the first year was pretty cool. You know the big thing for me is is from that meeting relation point like I was. Trying to like people like three you care about we follow soccer and it's really cool. That like the guy that is now the beat reporter for Cincinnati, Inquirer Pat Brennan. He, you know he was one of those few people. That actually reached back out and it was like desperately wanting to try to cover. covered the team at the time like saw me to. It's all passion for it so it's. Also like. You know when I was working at the saints that second year. you know the the intern I hired a year to kind of help me out and help some other out kind of on the communication side is Charlie Hatch who now is? He works for FC Cincinnati and is in their communications, department and as podcast the official team podcasts. Does all all sorts of cool stuff, so it's cool to see like the lingering elements of what the saints were still kind of. In the soccer ethos that exists in the city today You know that's that's amazing that you know both those gentlemen you mentioned. They're working for the big soccer team. In Cincinnati, and they got their start with the saints, although Pat Brennan covered the saints. Yeah. That that can That second season we actually had out of able to get Lindsay. Patterson become new sideline for us the nasty. He's sidelined person for FC Cincinnati. Does she also do bengals stuff or am I dreaming that? I see what she does stuff to for the inquirer. She does she does a lot of stuff? It's amazing how much she covers in Cincinnati as well, but it's hard to keep track of law, but she. But at the same time I think I remember that year. That was probably the year I started with both Dayton. Dutch lions so But yeah, I always admired what the saints did and I always stop the owner Dave Sadder. Why was a good guy and a guy that wanted to see soccer grow in Cincinnati, so I doubt Dave Dave had definitely had the passion. to make that happen. Obviously! He didn't have the resources that you know the family had and. They came in and. kind of took over the show, but at the end of the day. You. You know kind of what what we were all. We were all chasing there which is. Soccer, really mattering in the city, and absolutely does now with with FC Cincinnati. Now let's talk about the move from Cincinnati to Dayton. Like So. That was an interesting one. You know when me Cincinnati I got announced. We were all kind of like okay. Craff what? What. What does this mean for us like? How are we going to compete? You know how we deal. Even from a you know from an advertising standpoint. We're obviously not gonNA. Spend at the levels that you know. The lenders are going to be able to spend to put billboards everywhere in advertising we. We ran we. Shot Her news and Made our own. like thirty second ad that we ran a few times during formulate matches. on on Channel Five's. I remember. That was, and that was a big thing for us to pull that. Aw! And now you have you know this. New Club coming into town that has much bigger aspirations, and and a lot deeper pockets to where they can put up a billboard you know on every street corner and run radio and television ads like crazy, and so it was just from that point, it was like well how we gonNA. Keep with us. So I didn't know what the plan was and then Saturday. Called me up one day. Hey, so. We are going to take the team up to date. I think we're going to rebrand. We'll probably GONNA rebrand to the Dynamo. That was the name that already resonated resonated in in the city. especially soccer can be. Mad. So I it worked out because at the time. I lived. In Trenton. I would like halfway between Cincinnati and Dayton. Easy choice for. Mar Head coach actually lived. in Dayton that entire time and what's driving all the way down to downtown Cincinnati like four days a week. so he was on board so. It came together a lot quicker than I thought we did and you. Obviously, then we go about settling on. Actually taking over that Dynamo name. And Rebranding that and Jay actually with the one that created the logo and everything so kind of you know cool to be with the saints. You know just in the regular sense of getting me part of the Stock Organization, but the move to date and was really cool 'cause it was us getting the kind of. Really really have some hands on approach is to. Kind of the identity of club, and what the crafts looked like and I'm sitting in on. Meetings where we're going over, you know all these different design ideas, and all of these different collar concept. Be Jeremy Ideas. And yet seeing all together from teaneck around floor was was really cool and really fun to be a part of. Take me through the process of picking the Dynamo name, you mentioned. Dj created the logo, which might magnet of the logo is still on the fridge. That's how much I liked it, but take me through the process of rebranding from the saints to the Dynamo. The at the moment. We said we're GONNA take team to date. That was one of the first things that anybody we talked to. It mentioned like Oh. Are You Gonna rebrand it'd be the Dynamo bring back. The Dynamo is a guy. No had already existed in the age of ninety. As, if you know call legend this indoor soccer team that played in the city back in the heyday of arena soccer. And so, that was kind of like no-brainer. Move hanging out there. Then it was kind of going through the steps of like okay. DO WE WANNA go straight for that. Do we want to have something? That's more ours that we make? From scratch. macer start throwing around the ideas and the names and. The problem is you. And it's a problem that kind of permeates through soccer. There's just too many generics formulas to go with. Oh Dayton FCC eight nine aired mom, and those. You don't feel like they have. Just feel like Ami. Anyone could make that name up, anybody could. Really come up with that. There's no thought and that there's no intention in that. WE WE'VE NOT like gem city was a cruel. Name to us, but it was also at the time. Maybe a little bit over us. Like maybe won't do that. At the end of the day we were like you know the Dynamo name is. You, it's it's. Historic in the city. For soccer and bring it back. For? Another generates not bad. Would just be cool and just to cool an opportunity for us to skip out on Saturday. Saying then we had to do the work of like you know who who technically owned the name who knows who owns any like the. Images and stuff and and kind of through that and find out all that stuff and ended up being that really not really anybody. Had trademarked a lot of that stuff some of that stuff I laughed and. We just went for it and. It was it was cool. I mean that was kind of the big thing when we our press conference like. You know we're announcing ourselves and. That was like the big thing hiding like. The will they won't that. Will they take Dynamo name? For, will they come up with something different than? Getting to kind of be in the room and be the one unveiling it myself in that press conference. Like yeah, that's the name here it is. Here's a logo where the Dynamo that was that was cool moment. That's that's probably one of the coolest. Experiences of that. That was a really cool media gathering to where the banner was just ripped off, and you see the logo and the New Jersey's never thing. That was really cool. I remember going to that at CJ. Do. You remember any of the names that were rejected before the Dynamo was finalized. I. Don't think we ever really got that on the road on any of the names I know from the logos standpoint we. We looked at a lot of logos that. Yeah, I mean if you like the logo. That we ended on for people that don't know. Basically you kind of your your general bad shape Thakur shape, therefore a logo Dayton and Dynamo in this ring, and then on the. In the middle is basically a propeller on of just full motion with kind of the. Lines coming off the showing that it's it's you know it. Going and so that was kind of a big thing. Let's not they're gonNA. Look like what's IT GONNA, incorporate? You know. Are we going to lean more on? You know the Dynamo kind of tends to. poll from. An engineering an aviation history with me but You know kind of a general. Aviation. engineering. Names like gears. Do we go with and Allergan which it's gotTa have? You know it's got to have more of an aviation. Deal to it And then it was like okay. Should it be like a a plane should be a fighter jet? Should it be you know like the Wright? Brothers planes. So then we were kind of going through all of that. There was like a million. mockups that sounds kind of cool to be a part of and finally I think you know I think there was a lot of like spider jet Kinda looking ones almost reminiscent of what like the Winnipeg jets ended up going? What's here in the last couple of years Very similar look. but yeah. We ended up with the the loan the week with the Heller. Dj created that one and. I think it's I think it's a fantastic logo I do too. I just I just missed the team. But. Yeah. It's not definitely do just the way you know the second season. HOW INCREDIBLE! That was moving to Roger Glass Stadium near down the out and the playoff a winning team. Yeah, it's just how impressive they were that season. I don't believe they dropped the home match while. Yeah, you see you out season. The what I was doing play by play. They didn't do a saying. I think we won. How goodness and then we maybe one like one home game. Yeah I. We had one home win. And then we had a draw against really not. We gotTa draw against in Arbor. Yeah felt like a win a penalty. Trump decides that. Yeah Yeah Yeah yeah besides that was like. Man There was some painful game. Tap Absolutely I mean that was a pretty tough season, and you know being a welcome stadium it's it's very large, but it was still cool to see the Dynamo name like we mentioned return, and that was my first year with the team as you know the Internet audio voice, so it was cool working with and Mary Worden and everyone and yeah. A granted, you know that one win. That was tough, but same time is still really cool. Yeah Awesome, but yeah I think you're the move to Roger Glass I kinda I i. Kinda hate the fact that I miss out on that. I I know it was such. You know even just seeing the design at that previous year I knew. This thing is such a better setup for us and just having a fan to be just right up against. and it's just a good stability so I I missed that I didn't get to be a part of that. And plus of Roger Glass. There's no track. You're literally on top of the pitch, so you're right there. Yeah, it's. I love that setup now let's go back to your time with the saints and Dino. What were some of your favorite players? Your favorite matches and just your favorite. Everything to call. I mean you know so. I mean there's there's so many of them, and I know a lot of them played in golf and soccer wages a few. My I consider a pretty good friends I. One of them actually lives. Down the street from me and we get together often for for some Bourbon and reminisce about old times so yeah I, not I don't think in pinpoint the best player. I ever saw obviously In Patan bike hub A. Thirty seven year old guy from was, I believe. Is from Senegal Yeah? He he's. Even older guy near to play more like A. Sit back and defend kind of role, but my goodness that guy he still had skill and technique and touch on that ball that was. Like nothing I'd ever seen before and I don't think anybody else at the NPS and he has a level had seen that he is the guy that had played in the Champions League in Europe against Liverpool and stuff like that and cheer years you know at at at welcome stadium still with the same just mood action out on the pitch now through just from like getting a watts, the money that was pretty cool. That was pretty special but yeah I mean luckily most of the guys, the plate on the teams all the way from the two thousand fourteen saints all to Twenty Sixteen Dynamo I. I I've still kept in touch with most of them. cool moments. You know the the first was the second broadcast actually the second broadcasts playing. Against Detroit, and all their fans showing up, and it being a really close match and Detroit with a really good team, and that the states were were not. Favorites a really do much that year. ended up losing that game a watt second Dole. But just the energy on that one was so cool. It was just it was just a really co- atmosphere I I still kick myself that I didn't get to HOFFA broadcast in Detroit and go up there and see all those fans, and then see their supporters just in full voice. you know. They packed that thing out. I was several thousand people, which at at that level, is pretty incredible. So yeah, I mean there's. There's to be memories so one time we went actually myself and. Charlie Hats Free Networks FC, Cincinnati. We went on a road trip with the team and we went into. They were playing. I believe they were called the twin Minnesota Twin Stars. Played played out in suburban Minneapolis. And so we drove. We drove all the way there which is already that. That's a that's a long way to drive. That's A. Bit of a hike. Luckily, my parents lived in Milwaukee time, so we were able to Kinda just. have a nice long pitstop there and stay there for the night and then continue driving the next morning, but. we get, up there. And untorn up on my phone like the address on the website and the address on the website was like. Either they had now wrong, so it was actually like their mailing address, which was actually the somebody's house. Calling this person. And like she's trying to give me direction. And she's giving you directions to me if I already living Minneapolis. I know where everything is. And she's like yeah. Just go up to the yard just off to the hardy's internal left and I'm like. Where's the Ho what, can you? Get there like I'm describing with her on the phone for twenty minutes like. Can you give me an address? And like no, I was just. Like, give me an up. And just hang in the park. There's no pass back. We ain't getting to the. They played like most NPFL's quite a high school I'm just like the first one I like. The, name of the High School. That, up like why did she make that so hard? While you were supposed to play that Halston. You get the memo I mean. Yeah apparently, so we get there. You know we get. There was eleven. Eleven players for the for the state and I don't. I the same sitting third. From in, but We had. A couple players that couldn't make up which is always tough at the NPS bubble, an entry level that the travel. You know mostly fulltime job with the guys. Even have families Mavis got going on, so he was always hard to get a full roster for a travel and. especially a travel game where like hey, we're going I think it would. They're playing the twin stars in. Minneapolis on a Saturday and then that Sunday, they're gonNA drive down to play team Madison. On their way back, so that's generally how you did away trips you would do. To at one, but you would play somebody on like a Friday and then on your way back. You'd by somebody else on Saturday. So, heart always hard to get a lot of people to show up and so. They had. Exactly eleven players. But, that's only because The goalkeeper for that match. Body a body can played with him. One of his teammates at Ud lived in Minneapolis and just came and showed up. And we gave, would they can. We gave him a player card for different for just some guy on our team. Here this today. The referee anybody asks and. Jamie Starr who was actually? The coach was supposed to be the coach for that game because our head coach couldn't make it up there, Jamie Star who went on to be the keeper coach. Rusty Cincinnati for a season or two he. He goes up there. and. It ends up being that. They are so cute players that he ends up using. have played his own player card and actually has to be a player instead of no coach for the game. WHO they? He had actually play and I think he actually had to play a defender for this. Be The goalkeeper about trade and and we ended up winning the match which is the best part about it, wow. I mean with all you just said that's that's really crazy. But I remember walking up there, talking to them like hey. I like Oh that. I forgot who they name and I was like no that what he on wall today here, according to everyone that's what makes it I was like okay shot Ya copy that. Yeah that was an interesting trip that was actually also one of the few games that. Luke Spencer played for the saints who he went on to. Play for Breath Cincinnati and then. And moved onto. Louisville, where he actually helped them a score, the winning goal to win the US L. Cop couple years ago. over over Phoenix so and was. For that wild ride to so he he had gone up in Minneapolis. Just do stories like that when you work in NPS because as much as. You try to have good organization. WHO's watching trying to have? Like. Everybody on the same page and everybody show up. There's a lot of times you just Kinda this winging it and happened to pull some stuff together at the last minute to get the show. That stuff happens, so that's that's a really good story I. Thank you for sharing. Can you tell everyone? Can you tell me another one of your favorite stories? I'm trying to think there was. There was a game I. Want to say Oh. Okay, so you're here for for this. This was the year that you believe were helping out with the states. Where at what? Walnut Hills High I think it is. where there I don't I don't think I ever helped out with the saints in Cincinnati I was just the two years at the Dynamo. Okay I. Thought. You were there helping. Helping don out with something or No I meant. Yeah Welcome, Stadium Year So. Okay all right so. We had to do the PA and the PA Guy Weird setup. L. High Schools is. Super All. Super Cool looking where basically the stadium, and the the basically I built onto this side of the school like a big concrete step and pretty cool setup, but not exactly conducive for broadcaster. They didn't really have a press lock through that actually like hallway. That between. Cafeteria and a gymnasium. And like that was the hallway that also had like. That's the way you set up like the they'd have the mobile and everything's like setup like Mike's. And all that stuff for the PA and Donald have to from there. We on Nice days would do the play by play from under a tent just on the concourse, just basically just under him. And so. What would always happen? Is that the person that was doing the? National Anthem. Would basically be standing. Right by. The whole time and That's why it's weird. One broadcast because like you. You don't want that air, but also you not. You don't WanNa be talking the anthem, so that's really the weird one. You generally broadcasts. You try to timing out to where you're at a commercial break when that happened is. kind of hard to air, it and just have just dead air kind of for that whole period many. Maybe you're breathing heavy to might still on lots down too weird to So, you try to avoid. It doesn't always happen This particular day did not happen. But really one of the worst like. Scenarios in my head like. Awkward Moments Happen where we had this young. Like middle school aged girl is GonNa do the national anthem and so like where we're live four one she's. Athlete, ask them again. She's standing. Like at like two feet away from me, that's how close he was because the Mike Don. Actually had to take the MIC and just like hanging out the window, and hand it to her, and then she standing on the concourse right now she's the anthem. And She got like one or two bars into the song and just friends. Oh. And I'm just sitting there like And I turn around and they're like I. Turn around but I don't WanNa like be like to panic. Turn around like Oh. I'm GonNa Stare at you now. From omitted from you know from a foot away. You're not doing this thing and every everybody's looking at you and you're having an absolute panic attacks like. We didn't know what do I didn't know the do like from. Donda Don not like don start like Nankin on that Mike Corden. Hand and told back and still win. They're like what are we you and I like? It probably only lasted like maybe five seconds. It felt like twenty minutes of your patterns of panic like Oh. What? You're talking to stay here. Machos girl had like this whole like there's no down in front of us and freak out and I think like after like a couple of seconds. Supporters Group. Your started singing the the rest of the. because I. It was played with a track, so there was like the actual like music track and this girl was going to stay over. So she just. Like. The song continuing? Yeah, the song like the instrumental is still continuing. And then at some point like. The craft kind of took over and this year old having this whole meltdown. and. She's not. She doesn't leave the area. To then like her mom's console. A bad for MOMS and so and all these people I consider, but then like the anthem ends, and like we set broadcast. and. There's this twelve year old girl just stopping loudly like a foot away from me as Well. You know what? A Beautiful Day here since. Girl stops. Right behind me. And it was I could hear it in my head headset index, really going out over the air like this whole are the conversation that's happening at mom. And that was. A lot of times. You'll get stuff where there is. kind of stuff being sedentary, your ear and your. Feedback into something and you have to just keep like. Focus and keep going, and that was probably one of the hardest ones. Yeah, that's tough I. that. That is a tough thing to do. now loveline tigers football supposed to go walnut hills, and if everything is played right, I'm supposed to be broadcasting with them again. I'll similar is Walnut hills to throw throw sounds really similar to that I enjoyed my stop there. We were outside and we had extension cord. thrown at us from one. The stories up high. Yeah I. Think it's the same thing I. Think it's actually I you know I I actually think we might be caught with wral. Not Want to be I don't know I always get those two mixed up. Yeah, I think that's why we're talking about I like I like Dang this Angus King Stadium and yeah I mean what the track around the actions a little farther. Cool venue in general, but again like yeah anytime you taught the track there I think it takes away from that soccer field like being like right next to the pitch. But the classic feel it feels like a university right there, that's. Yeah, no I mean. It looks like it looks like a high school stadium straight out of like a like a movie or something like that where you have these big, you know. And the whole place like a university that big brick! Concrete steps going all the way up on the side of buildings. Yeah, yeah, right withdrew not not wall. That was actually my first game for Loveland Tigers. Football and we were sitting behind some the loveline fans like are they broadcasting now? I? Just wanted to bring my headset my gear and just talk into it today you know. I figured that'd be. No I didn't say that that wouldn't be nice to me. Butts. Yeah, so I I like withrow, and can we also talk about real quick? How The saints played at Storage Stadium for a bit and now the site of the original star Joel is going to be the home of the West. End Stadium where FC Cincinnati is going to play next year. Yeah, I mean hey. Part of David satellites vision I mean. He knew that that was. That was the perfect location to play soccer in downtown. Setting where you're. Really close to the over the Rhine district, so you're there all the bars there? Restaurant it's where a lot of the younger crowd is moving through right around there, so yeah I mean he. He nailed it now. That's not you know back in two thousand fourteen. Angel Second Stadiums open yet. It gives Oh, it is. Okay because. They. I think they they were supposed to open at the beginning of laugh. football season and ended up having to open like maybe a month late. DOT, com. I think task was supposed to have the first football game there and I. You know I never read if they did. Open it up or not, but it's no they. Yes, they were supposed to have that first one of the season Kinda they ended up having to have like somewhere else. I remember that and I was like no, that's tough, but at least they did get startled to opened up. Sticking with soccer. What exactly is Gotham soccer? Got Him soccer we run. Adult REC Soccer League, primarily short side, some be seven soccer leagues four adult. Across the US, so we started out in New York back in Oh six. grew to Cincinnati around twenty fourteen, and then we've now. Moved into. Dayton we played we've. we actually actually plant Shamanov Julian is where we have Monday league, and then actually whenever we do start up for the year we'll actually be also starting League Carol High School because they just got a brand new turf field. So we'll be playing there and then we're up in Columbus were over in Indianapolis, Louisville Oh and we're out in Arizona. So you're a commissioner. What's your role? So I run basically all the operation. For Cincinnati Dayton. Bob In charge of. Recruiting the teams get teams to sign up getting people to sign up getting returning teams to commit for the next season. hiring all the wraps. Getting all the permits who field building out all the schedule and running. We do three outdoor sessions so. Spring Summer Fall and then we do small colleagues in winter. Basically doing running all those operations for three different city. and. How can people that are interested in playing soccer? Reach out and try out for Gotham. Yes, uh-huh the. League we take on whoever wants to play. edith, sign up and you. You pay the player or you? You sign up your team to play with pain, the team fee and you golf and soccer dot com, and then take on what city you living, so if you WANNA play Dayton or Cincinnati or somewhere else you just go from there, and you just read it, and then we get you set up and I'll be in contact with you. Get your get out there to play. Some soccer. And how long has gotham soccer been a thing? I think she probably stick was when we started in New York, but the the actual expansion, the out here into the Midwest started around twenty fourteen. I see, and how long have you been commissioner? I started in. The? Seventeenth so it was actually right after the twenty six billion. Going into the twenty Tina. NPR's Kelsey that I had that. I took the job at that. Is there any fields in Cincinnati or Dayton that you'd like golf and soccer to reach out to. You mentioned CJ and Carol up here, but is there any fields that? You have on your wishlist. I mean yeah, there's always like more Moorefield. Do we like to do? you know in Cincinnati where could spread out pretty good we got. We got to feel it out on the east side, and and they're saying we play up in Westchester. We play at two different or actually technically three different places in kind of more Central Cincinnati area You know that we we would've liked to eventually get something maybe out. On the west side of things, maybe towards Towards like Harrison or something like that? Harrison's put in that new turf field too, and it looks really nice. Now. That'd be perfect I. Mean Harrison I. Taylor Has Pretty Nice field, don't they? Yeah okay. Now. Let's talk about you and your broadcasting career again. Is there any other sports you want to try? Not Really I i. You know I think. I think the only other one. I think I would actually feel comfortable doing just because I have. You know I think you have to come from the local knowledge when you go into the game. Have a an understanding of it would probably be like. These super cool to see a call liked golf. All be out there or in one of those like. you know boots they're. In one of those little towers. Looking at all the monitors looking down. The green calling. In your in your town. Actually on the Ohio Hockey Digest podcast. I was joking that I probably wouldn't be able to do golf. Just because my voices just always like this, it's never calm. I yeah. I wouldn't have to like I would have to figure out what I would do. When like something big happens and you WanNa get excited, but not like that excited and I would probably just below the Mike. Yeah I. Feel like I could do the convoys for a little bit, but then there's a long drive like wow. Did you see that tribe? We gotta get this broadcast out of here. Yeah. Definitely I definitely think that would be probably the hardest part about it especially if you're one of the. You know some of the guys actually have with tax and everything out on the course with the players and their. You know chiming in on the broadcast, and obviously they're talking in a low tone. 'cause like. They're actually like literally like see the ways. The Guy Golfing so like they can't be loud. That would be the hardest part. Did Restrain yourself absolutely. Now Jeremy! What's some of your favorite things about sports in Cincinnati in the Dayton area? You Know I. I don't know it's weird. 'cause I, not growing up here originally. Like. Is actually the first professional team in this area. That I'd actually like considered myself a fan of like obviously not Bengals Fan, or read span you know i. didn't you allow to right state so I'm not a UC. Davis. You're not. and. If you talk about like what I enjoy it's. It's FC Cincinnati and the other thing. That's like super cool this area that I think a lot of people get Is it like high school? Football is such a big deal and. I yeah. I think sometimes living in the southwest Ohio bubble you forget like. It's not that way everywhere out like yeah. I'm the south might yeah in Texas and like that makes sense. We already know about that, but like. The the of the rest of the mid western China gator minutes. Whereas like anywhere, you go higher Jairo. A high school football still being mean so much so I would say that. That's definitely another one and that. one thing I always mentioned when people talk about the sports scene in the city as I say that the most the coolest, and it's its event that I have actually got to cover for. Covered, it's like five or six years straight. Is there actually like a massive global Tennessee. That's right in the area every year. the western southern, open out in Mason Ohio. It's like northern suburbs of Cincinnati. and. It's because of where it's the calendar. It's always two weeks before the US Open. And because of that. Everybody every big name. In the in the tennis world showed up and plays and so. You can go and and pay actually honestly. Reasonable prices together this tennis event. See, some of the biggest sports stars on the planet. It's. It's crazy. Thing that one of the oldest major tennis circuits are here in Cincinnati. Yeah I remember the one year I got to cover it, and there was a lot of fun I mean I had to learn a lot about tennis on the fly, but at the same time as it's great, action yeah. Yeah it it. You know it can. It's something I always. Paid a little bit of attention to and find it a little bit interesting, and then you go and like if you'd like seeing live. is a different thing than watching on TV it's. It's definitely in person sport. Young so I learned that from doing that and just the opportunities to. Talk to and meet some of the biggest athletes on the planet. And apparently they all hang out with the apple being over buyer. At the applebees and like you know Andy Murray. There you're getting a cobb salad, or whatever worldwide reach and they choose outlet. At the applebees. I don't know why that makes me laugh, so might yeah I get it I. Guess what happened is like. There's like the preferred. Hotel that they put player then. And like share the parking lot with an appleby, two guys. Go. Check this like that. And not no, not knowing that applebee's. And that it's probably. It's fine or whatever but. It's probably better places in the area go to, but they just kinda making just walked from the room over to the applebee's and back and not have to worry about running into anybody and. So you go there and Ross dolls getting you know. For to. Thing and You know just living it up at applebee's inmates. No Haya hit. It still makes me laugh about that, but that's that's very it's. That's probably why and It's a shame because there's probably some great restaurants in Mason and. Yeah Mason's not lacking in restaurants over. No, it's. What a great suburb it is, and they as long as well as the tennis center. They also have a very nice baseball field in prospect park, and the people out own it. You know they don't collect concessions. They don't collect parking. They don't the you can play for free basically and yeah the. Because to the tournament for all those years I would run into the out. Be Chatting in the press box with. All of the used media people from all over the world. And they would of talk about like not no not. Not really a whole lot to do I was like well. Yeah, you're in the. You understand. This isn't Cincinnati. You're in the suburbs like? If you want nightlife, you need to go get on that highway. Right to hear shrive downtown. This the suburb is where people live and go to school and reestablishes. Isn't that where people hang out and have a lot of? Big Name. Basically. But same time. How cool is it that Cincinnati has that? It's one of the things I. Don't understand the you'll talk to. People and I mentioned it. and. It's very rare that someone like Oh. Yeah, I go to that or I'll check out like Oh, I've heard about that I've never you? Right there you're missing out, it's it's such a good experience in such a big deal, and it's right. Now my next question is what would you like to see in the future of the area? Sports are media seem. Y You mentioned earlier I. Mean I? It would be cool to get ourselves back in a position where. You know local sports. Talk is is something that happens. All Day long instead of just entering your PM drive. That would be cool to happen. You'll have more. More kind of brand outlets as far as the you know. Sports media that are local to this area that are thriving and that people rely on I think that. Is something that most big cities happened. So, far. Hasn't been around. I said part of that and then. The I don't know we're in pretty good place I mean my my bucket list item was always a professional soccer team, so I guess I'm good. them out of reach the mountaintop. Now for those that are interested in becoming a broadcaster joining the sports field. What advice can you give? You know I think the biggest advices. You. You gotTA keep pursuing. Yeah, keep going for it. But you know. I think a lot of the new way that just kinda everything's calibrated. Where you can do things without having like. I had to have I find a way to get a foot in the door at a radio station, and then in that radio station a foot in the door as far as getting on the air. But nowadays you know podcast with blogs with YouTube channels. It's so easy for for anybody to do it like the barrier of entry of trying out. Governing fifty, we're still I. Think you just if you WANNA, do it. You gotTA. Do you know spend that fifty dollars on a microphone I'm at? A little bit of money on. If you WANNA do videos on. kind of editing software to go for that. That's still my costs the money, but it's way easier than some of the hoops that people you know back when when we were starting out and and people before had to jump through just to get like just a little bit different like a concert airtime. And now you can just create it yourself, so do it just created. In. End Net wonderful for that. It's amazing. It's amazing that you can. I. Don't my kids watch all these YouTube channels? Kid. Like opening ups toys. And he keeps making millions of dollars. And what's like this? There's no talents in this. But you can do it, and you can still make money and that's awesome. You know he has his own brand of toy. Oh Yeah! We brought him garbage. I I'm very familiar with that, too. 'cause my My stepdaughter's to that as well and it's like yeah, what you have all these toys here now. Yourself and play with it. You Watch someone else, do it. Jeremy last the last up. How can people follow your work and you on social media? so wrong side of the pond. is wrong side of on that our twitter handle obviously then just whatever podcast app you find wrong side of the pond on their follow our podcast which we've been keeping up with. Normally we take most of the summer off Keeping up with us because I think we're all locked in lochner houses and need something to do so. We've just been doing stuff every week. And then I'm just at Jeremy. Lance got an early on twitter, so it's just money. Very Cool Jeremy thanks for your time today. It's been a lot of fun catching up and. Let's hope we have sports soon. I needed. They've golf on right now. I'm watching golf right now as we speak I, mean back there is there is soccer I mean fc since as GonNa. Go to Orlando but. Yeah Yeah because that's where everyone wants to go. In the middle of summer is Orlando Florida, but McKee's. Thousand Degrees Maki mouses there and Shaquille O'Neal, but the magic and everything yeah, and and and heat stroke heat broke off of there. It's up here to let's. Let's yeah. It's not just in Florida but that. Jeremy Thank you for your time. Today and definitely folks give wrong side of pond a listen. You will love that podcast if you're a big soccer fan and that wraps up episode. One Sixty of the Cincinnati Dayton sports podcasts. Talk to you again for episode one sixty one. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Cincinnati and Dayton sports podcast with Lee w Maolin. To subscribe to the podcast. Please visit the Lee W Maui dot com slash podcast. From there you can choose your platform such as apple podcast Google podcast tune in spotify, the iheartradio, APP and many more interact with the podcast and hosts on twitter at the lead, W Malan and at Syndey pod like the facebook page, the Cincinnati and Dayton sports podcast and download the free flick jet APP. Then search for the local Sunday. Sports Group to submit your future. Mallon's mail back questions. The closing theme is lights. Go down by Dan hennig provided by the Youtube Music Library Collection. This is Lee w Malan and I hope you enjoy this week's podcast. Please join me again next week on the Cincinnati. Dayton sports podcast.

Cincinnati soccer Dayton Dayton Cincinnati Saints Dynamo Dj US Dayton Dynamo David Letterman Cincinnati Dayton sports park hockey Jeremy Lance Jeremy football Milwaukee Westchester Gotham Ohio golf commissioner
2/9/21 - Mo Egger & Paul Dehner Jr Talk All things Bengals and Pork Rinds

Mo Egger

44:12 min | 2 months ago

2/9/21 - Mo Egger & Paul Dehner Jr Talk All things Bengals and Pork Rinds

"This is paul. Dana junior and mo egger in studio talking all things bengals and general. Nfl on espn fifteen thirty cincinnati sports stationary to go. That's us good afternoon. I'm allegra this is espn fifteen thousand. Thank you so much for listening. I am Thrilled that you're here. Hopefully you survive the snow. We'll get like Eight and a half inches at my house and the upset of the century. My daughter did not want to go outside to build a snowman. Wasn't that disappointed. I'm not a snow guy. I do have a feeling especially because we're done earlier today for uk. Hoops at five. Thirty snowman building is in my future in the dark tonight in the dark. Yes no doubt so. I'm excited for that. Dana gina villainy snowmen. Kids feel about the snow. Love the snow. My daughter already fell into the front yard this morning without mittens on it caused problems but she was like i was out there digging out the sidewalk in cars and stuff and she wanted to come out and join. I knew it wouldn't last long. It never does but we have actually a great. Our backyard has like a like a couple of different tiers goes down towards towards the would. It's great for sledding and this is sort of the first year where my daughters of the good age to really want to go out and do the sledding. Yeah and really enjoyed it. When i put my one year old on with the three year old though i realized the weight mexico a bit faster than i anticipated while careening towards the woods. So i had to like you know kind of the most athletic move had to make an a few years to try to stop the going into the woods so we had snow two weeks ago. It was not snow like today. My daughter got up saw the snow. She wanted to go outside. And said we'll make snow angels and then commanded me to make a snow angel and then i looked at her and said it's your turn and she's like nope back inside so she she got up in the middle of the night. Our daughters are about a month apart from each other off before in may and she got up in the middle of night and go to the bathroom and she looked out the bathroom when she goes daddy snow. I'm like yeah go back to sleep. We'd get up and go plan. There's no she's like yeah. Great awesome so we get up. Get up this morning. Like seven twenty. I got some time. I'm thinking we're going to put the snowsuit on. We're going to go out. We're going to hand the snow. She took one look at. It was like nah. I want to watch my ipad. Yeah okay that's what. I'm okay with that. I'm fine with that. It was cold out there. And then when i left she said hey when you come back build a snowman. I'm like what's going to be six going to be dark out but yeah fine snowman building in my future. The good news is at that age. It's like once the first time you're kinda in the snow and start feeling a little cold. It's real tendency to punt. I appreciate yes you know. It's just really willing to punt at any moment in time. The thing is there's a limit to the things you can do in the snow. There's there's really not that many especially in a day and age kids really aren't closer together. So the i'm figuring tonight. I'll put in. Twenty minutes will be done. Go back inside. Drink something hot. I haven't done a real good investigation of this snow. As far as it's good for snowman making that can make your time a little too long. If it's not that good that could snowman snow. you don't driving in. I saw some kids like packing. The snow looked like they were on their way to a good snowman. All right good also just by the way for what. It's worth for the benefit of anybody in my neighborhood. You can shovel your driveway. I had neighbors out. There have shoveled at twice already. I'm not that guy shoveling the driveway for someone else. And it's not you okay. Courtesy sidewalk shovel. I'll do that. Yeah i have no issue with that but the driveway. I'm fine all right. We talked about snow. paul dander junior covers the essence. Natty bengals for the athletic dot com. He has a podcast here. That podcast grounded. We are now in the throes of the nfl offseason. The super bowl is behind us. Here's here's i love the people who watch the super bowl like this that whatever happens in the game has to be a reflection of what the biggest offseason priority is so i no shortage of people on sunday night and yesterday who were like look. That's winding offensive line. Patrick mahomes not functional need an offensive line and wild that take is not incorrect. I knew that before sunday. I know it now. I didn't need to watch patrick. Mahomes running for almost five hundred yards before. He threw the football to to know that the bengals needed offensive line. There are however people who i think took sunday as the ultimate that it does help to have a good and deep offensive line. Yeah that's the second part is really important because everybody that she did have a good offense line and everybody at some point ended up position like the chiefs were the bengals have been seemingly for years playing tackle three and guard to center to the you just sometimes your depth and not having the massive fall off and a lot of ways to me. I mean that does go by. That's where frank pollack. Or whoever your offense of ryan coach is comes in. You need that guy needs to be getting the most out of that second wave and that was so wind when the plug and play with the next guy in. There's not much of a mess. That's really one of the most important parts. The rest is on having guys who can do it. Yeah he's having the person i said. I said to nobody. In particular on sunday this is why need akeem adedeji to be serviceable because in that situation granted you hope it's not against that type of opponent and let's face it. It was kind of a marriage of the worst kind of opponent. The kansas city chiefs could face. They're given their now glaring deficiency on on the on both ends of the offensive line. Hopefully not in a super bowl. I energy i taught last year. Played like a guy that you could plug in and play not start but have this guy has to give us a couple of quarters. This guy has to play for a couple of weeks. You could build upon what. He did his rookie season and not make him. The starting left tackle not making the starting right tackle. Nothing like that. But you could play him and i said out loud on on sunday to nobody in particular this is why i care about akeem adedeji because you are going to face a situation like this where you're back have to play. And your backups. Playing can't mean that when the ball of snag. Your quarterback immediately starts running toward the other end zone. Which is what. Patrick mahomes was doing on sunday night. It's weird. it seems like you know in recent years especially in in the afc north. It's like every time they play baltimore. Baltimore's got like three offensive linemen missing and then he has down their throats. And the you don't even notice it or think about it and then the bengals go out there and play with a couple of guys missing and it's used as an excuse to everything went wrong and in. Yeah you you just. Energy is a good example. And those guys you have to. What hitting on draft picks means is different for different people hitting on akeem. Adedeji is having the guy who can give you two to three weeks and that's great and people that are trying to hold that to a different standard that kit obsessed with sixth round draft. Pick guy and that's fine like that. Those are important in their own way but setting. Proper expectations are not expecting him to think all man each be your starter and you can just play. I mean no. That's just not traditionally certainly not in the first couple of years where that comes from if he works his way up into another role and becomes the great but Yeah no that's that is. That's important to me though. I think it goes more back toward your coaching in your development that anything. Your colleague j morrison has outlined some of the free agency possibilities not just on the offensive line but looking at other positions as well wide receiver. Which you and. I talked about in great detail last tuesday and this is we've spent three months looking ahead of the off season and i think we make it sound really easy. Just go get a couple of free agency free agents on the offensive line and they'll be better maybe ends up being that simple right. Just get some guys in free agency and you'll be fine but now the hard part begins right the off seasons here. This club has to figure out what it's willing to pay what is willing to do financially. They're also going to have to elbow away. Other teams interested in some of the top guys. And i am not a pessimist by any stretch when it comes to this but sort of looming over all of this for me is the fear that show up out of interest. Whether it's in trent williams or joe tony or or anybody else who might represent an upgrade. They're gonna show interest and they're going to have a willingness to spend and yet the players still going to say yes to somewhere else and not here. And i think that's the part of this that we often don't factor in when we have these conversations about bengals offseason needs. Go get some offensive linemen in free agency sound makes it sound really easy in practice. It's very very difficult. Especially when you're a franchise that doesn't have a very good track record of winning. No i mean you're you're trying to sell the top end of people that have multiple options are going to say okay. Well if the money's all the same. I'm to go ring chase a little bit and get to whoever i think is the closest to that and maybe you can sell joe burrow and and the possibility of him being the next great thing as part of that east. You're also sitting on six twenty five one and that's tough sell and so you're not ring chasing if you're coming to cincinnati. No no between what you can so the bengals versus another middle of the pack team based on job. Now if you're those are the two or three teams that are involved at whatever financial level you want it to be and know they did a pretty good job of lowering sought after guys last year and had success after they were two and fourteen so i mean there is a selling of a vision. That's involved in all of that but yeah it's hard and you're right. It's easy to say that. And it's like i'll date myself and go like you know. What do you do for your christmas gig. One of those tickle me on mouse right and then we'll call today and then you're out black friday and you'll have to go to hospital. Yeah it's it's sometimes it's just not that easy especially when you're talking about something like offensive line play. Everybody wants that. who's out. Who who is it right. Teller moton is going to be probably franchise tag long-term by carolina. Gone okay trent. Williams is going to want probably twenty million at probably three years or something three or sixty. Let's jay pointed out not not somebody who negotiates easily no right. I mean he's never really been in free agency before so maybe he'll just go to the highest bidder. I don't know. But i mean he seems to be interested in winning title and he'll have suitors as the best left tackle football. Those guys tend to have those and so. Are you going to be in once you get out of that market for tackle. You're talking about guys with risks guys with maybe a checkered history. Maybe you can bet on them and are you better off than taking a swing at multiple guys in that middle level or should you be taking your big run at somebody. Like trent williams are moving over to guard. And now you're doing you're uncomfortable thing for the bengals of paying guards lots of money. This will illustrate the difference between you. And i and how semantically responsible you are and where i am because you talk you. You compare to christmas shopping. For a tickle me elmo right and i was going to compare it to a bunch of dudes who are going to go out to meet. Women could sounds great right. We're going to go meet girls that's gonna be awesome and y'all end up going back to the airbnb together. Yeah so that's where i was gonna go. You're wired differently and better than i am. I don't know about any of that. Maybe just familiar with ever. Actually i like the bengals of old time free agency when it goes comes to that very often at the airbnb playing madden. It's it's it's. It's not an easy thing i mean. I think you're gonna have to figure out where you're comfortable going with those with those big dollars and to me. That is what it comes down to. Are you gonna say. Hey we we just we've got to l we taking advantage of the rookie contractor not Are you taking advantage of the rookie contract window right. You got three years of this thing. Right so theoretically. Why can't you use it to pay. Trent williams was willing to come here. And say in called trent williams and say hey whatever your highest thing is we'll we'll give you a million i'll give you a million more per year over. Whatever your highest bidder gives you you. That's the point of the rookie. Contract is being able to do that. Will that happen. i probably not. I mean there's a lotta things stacked up against them but you can. Are you real about tonight. Can't is it possible for the bengals to overpay for offensive linemen. No no no. It's not because it's too important. It's two front and center for them. And their franchise is based around actually protecting the guy so when people talk about. Don't overpay yes. Yes over for offensive linemen if anything. If you're going to be fiscally irresponsible with anything please do it towards the offensive lot. I don't view that as fiscally responsible. I view that as making a significant investment in your most precious commodity. Which is the safety of your quarterback that's not overpaying event if that comes at the expense of something else i can live with it and even if it doesn't work i can live with that right. It is seventeen minutes after three o'clock. Paul danner junior on twitter at paul deandre. Junior let's let's talk quarterbacks. The league is at an interesting place and the bengals. I'm going to tie the bengals into that. Because i have to because we're in cincinnati. We'll do that next on. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station on for free by the way we're done early today k. Hoops the wildcats. Taking on arkansas tip off at seven pre game at five thirty. I hear from travis. Steel and john brennan from their respective coaches shows last night coming up at four thirty and super bowl. Mb superbowl mvp super bowl champion and went and woods and kentucky product. Mike edwards is going to be on this show at four zero five eight player. A young man who they might be the answer to a trivia question who drew brees final. Nfl pass that would require. Drew brees to never throw. Nfl pass again. Which certainly seems like a possibility. Paul dana junior from the athletic is here by the way you did something impressive i was. I was wondering so last week. I had you on and we were gonna talk to salomon wilcox when you were done here at four twenty last week and it was one of these radio roehi type interviews where you get sally and then then at the end. He's got plug. Something except solid. Do the plug. He had some doctor on with them. And so i was teasing the interview. And i said look. We're going to talk football for like eight minutes with sally. And then doctors gonna come on and talk about need cartilage replacement or something. I don't even remember. It was and so just understand. That's what's going to happen here and we did it. And it was fine. And the doc on a new israel and solly got the bit. I think the audience got the bit. You said to me that you were going to interview tee higgins. Yeah but it was something similar where he was going to be. Plugging panini trading trading cards penny trading cards. I was wondering how in a piece written piece you. We've in the plug and in a very i thought good and insightful and revealing and worthwhile piece on t. higgins. You worked in any mention in. Well done i did. I was pretty happy with that. I wanted people to be happy. I'm all about about pleasing please. The people that helped me out. You know i. I got into the top a little bit as a very natural part the lead and then the magic of sticking it in the middle of a quote attribution is always you. Can you can put lots of stuff in there because people like to. They like to just kind of skim over the the courtroom. that's fine. I was happy with the app. But i think the people i didn't hear from them. Yeah but i think they might have been happy with last week. We were pitched the opportunity to talk with jack. Youngblood in the hall of fame played for the rams in the seventies played in a super bowl with a broken leg. Makes sense to talk with billy white shoes johnson great wide receiver and we were told that if we didn't have time for either of those we were we had the opportunity to chat with a guy by the name of mark singleton. Who is the guy. He's the ceo of southern recipe pork. Rinds chance to talk to him on the air. How many minutes could you do on pork. Rinds as a topic. I mean if you had to fill like how many segments well see. Here's the thing. If if i was just talking with you about pork rinds few segments because i can talk about more than just one brand but this guy. I couldn't say all right. I know you're the southern recipe. Pork rind guy. Let's talk about one of your competitors. I couldn't do that. This conversation will be limited to just southern recipe pork rinds. By no stretch of the imagination. Do i think we have the best sports talk radio show in the country but i do want to listen to the one. That was like yeah. You know what we can squeeze mark like four forty five on tuesday. The did the interview with the southern recipe pork. Rinds guy pork. Rinds are so far out of my wheelhouse. I couldn't give you a minute on pork. Rind i have i have. They're so far out of where i normally live. I get that i just. I wouldn't even know what. I wouldn't even know what to say i'd be i'd be very lost. That's import grinds. No not even close to my go-to but i'm more interested in who who's radio show host. What producers like did somebody say yes. Yeah i want to know someone said yes. And i want to hear that interview and then i want to know what they would have done in that segment. Had they not had the guy from southern recipe. Pork rinds i. I don't even know what to say about this. Because here's the thing. I mean somebody did. Somebody said wh- feels like the fact that he was offered their like. This has happened before coming up after the break. We're gonna chat with mark. Singleton gonna tell us about pork lots so this is going to be a crazy off season. It's already started. We've had a quarterback for quarterback trade. Obviously pigs were involved. The league is sort of being. I was gonna say being held hostage but league businesses going to continue but the league is is sort of in a holding pattern. I guess to a degree. But because of the shawn watson the texan said well we're not going to trade him you would expect them to he wants to be traded whereas he go what do they get. Forum carson wentz. It's been reported a couple of different places that a deal could be imminent. Aaron rodgers started the offseason by expressing some hesitancy about staying in green bay. And there's always questions about his relationship with the people who run that franchise. Russell wilson was on the dan. Patrick show i guess today and he was asked. Well do you think you're going to be traded. And he said well you have to go ask the seahawks. And he's not happy with some of the things happening with that organization and then have all these teams that have no idea who their quarterback is going to be that have no chance of acquiring any of these players at the top of the draft. We have maybe three quarterbacks going perhaps in the top four and yet here in cincinnati. You have a quarterback under a rookie contract. They don't have to pay a huge money deal to anytime soon. There's a lot of teams that have that decision to make in a league right now. That is partially defined by quarterback chaos uncertainty. It's kind of nice to be a bengals fan. Yeah you've got you've got continuity you've got a little bit of you've got hope you've got not. There's nothing worse than having an unstable quarterback situation nothing and teams have discovered that and and that includes when you have a go on who's frustrated or whatever you know like we're seeing ever. I mean how many. I always look when when people ask do predictions or if you like season prediction or talk about the schedule. When it comes out. I look at one thing i look it. Who are you playing early in the year. That has a new quarterback or a new coach. That's predominant analysis on if the schedules good or bad you want to catch you. Catch those teams early. That's a good schedule because those teams are gonna take some time and we heard about it. All of this past weekend. Tom brady wins and and the stories about his adjustment. Tampa bay and you know. He's on the flight for the opener. Talking to bruce arians and they're still talking about what words mean. What on the field. And and the adjustments they had to do and this is a guy who's been in the league for two decades coat and he's having taking time adjusting. We talked about how they were slow. Starters seven five and they lost three or four then they hit their stride because everything started to kind of figure itself out brady got adjusted. Everybody and they made it made it work. I think you have to talk about joe burrow through the same lens that way in that because he came in and kinda looked so good so fast you almost kind of took for granted what his arc should be in. What the real expectations of familiarity with the league much less than new team should be. And i i do think fans that people kinda took that for granted a little bit because he was so good and look so you know in place so fast and if he doesn't get hurt are you talking about joe burrow in similar type of arcs terms as you talked about brady season once they of hit their stride. They really took off. It appeared to be happening for the bengals before he got hurt. And so i. I think it's important to keep that in mind because the changes your whole vision of what twenty twenty one is and should be if you think of it that way you know what i mean if you think about what brady to make sure sure that clear. I'm talking about the way that you the way that you develop on a new team and the way you develop a new league and and that should change the dynamic of what you think of twenty twenty one because i think they believe you're about to see that incremental up step over the course of the last however many games for borough the same way you saw brady kinda hit his stride there in tampa bay and we didn't get to see it. We didn't we so we don't know if that's what was going to be the case or not but if that was going to be the case suddenly you feel a lot different. The bengals of twenty twenty one Than you do right now. Probably because this question is better answered perhaps after next season. How much of that gets sort of undermined by the fact that joe burrow is not going to have a normal offseason a little bit i mean at at the very least he's already had normal offseason. So you're okay with that. And i think you know who he is in game that he learned so much during the course of the season he he did. Get a lot of reps with guys. He's gonna be playing with. Obviously it'd be so much better. If you had that but i you know i don't think it changes it that much some certainly some but i don't think it changes it that much because you know that is the one area that he's proved to be able to kinda deal with and not have too much trouble with. Yeah i worry about it less. Just because of what i've seen from everything i've come to know about. Joe burrow suggests that. There's a handful of quarterbacks capable of overcoming a different type of offseason as i saw joe do at once and be a very productive rookie at the same time. You'd love to have case. Which is he spending all the time. In the world. Throwing t higgins and tyler boyd. And whatever other wide receivers they acquire and he can do all that he could be on the field. And that's that gets cut into significantly. You'll feel better about him at the beginning of the next year then you will most of the opponents they would play no doubt even without the offseason. Just because at least there's some continuity no-doubt all right three thirty one. We have to talk about the ken. Riley exclusion sure. We'll do that next. Paul dana jennerwith athletic. The athletic dot com. You can subscribe read. His work here is work and make sure you follow him on twitter at paul dana. Junior this is espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station. Sports update is service of kelsey chevrolet. Home of lifetime powertrain protection guaranteed credit approval from their family to yours for life dot com college basketball tonight on. Espn fifteen thirty kentucky is taking on arkansas. Tip off at seven pregame starts at five thirty. Also this afternoon dayton is hosting vcu fc cincinnati fc. Cincinnati is trying. they have acquired brennan sousa silva he just. They just just goes by brenner. These guys only go by one name. So he's he's brenner. Arguably according to our friend pat brennan inquire stances arguably the biggest statement of onfield intent an fc cincinnati history. He is a goal scoring. Fogarty's twenty one years old. He comes to the united states from top flight. Outfit sal paulo. Fc on a transfer fee that is exorbitant. Those are not my words. I read that from pat story. Also if you're if you're on forty-three if you're of a certain age remember battles of ohio from the nineteen eighties between the bengals and browns marty. Schottenheimer was coaching. Those cleveland teams and went on to coach. The washington football team coached in san diego and had a long long run. As the coach of the kansas city chiefs. he passed away. he had entered hospice care. Last week has been dealing with. Alzheimer's passed away at the age of seventy seven. The most victories in nfl history without winning a super bowl. Exactly two hundred kind of a figure of my youth. Marty schottenheimer passes away at the age of seventy seven paths crossed with him. I don't know that i ever interviewed marty. I don't know that ever ever did cross paths marty. Which is kinda. I mean he was kind of out of the game by the time. I really got mixed six. Yeah so i mean. I was really kinda started covering the league and ten. So didn't quite make their well his passage undeniably and deservedly so next year when the nfl has there with honor show or nfl honors. Or i didn't watch it. I don't watch it not of no interest to me. But when they do the montage of figures who have passed marty schottenheimer will be included among the most significant figures who pass in two twenty one. It is amazingly disrespectful. That in the one that was shown on saturday night. There was no mention of ken. Riley none whatsoever. That is amazingly disrespectful. Bengals part of this. That will talk about. I just i don't know how that happens. This is i know. I know how it does happen. If ken riley played for the cowboys he's on there with the exact same career if he played for the giants and the jets of the eagles. Dolphins steelers packers exact same career. He's on there that acknowledged i. I still can't believe he didn't make that. I didn't watch it in real time. I didn't know about it so the next day i saw j morrison's tweet right. I'm not a hell that happens at the very least you would assume if you are charged with putting together such a important packages part of nfl honors. You are in contact with every teams had pr person. Hey who do. We need to make sure that we're looking out so we don't miss anybody out in those things like putting together something that looks great and that's all fine. The most important thing is to make sure that you get everybody represented that absolutely should be represented. There's just no possible way that you saw can riley's like no five interceptions like fifteen years if should be in the hall of fame all that stuff yet non. Don't even don't even worry about it. You know there's just there's just no way that that's that that's the case it's just deciding not to care about looking for that. We were talking about this off air. So the bengals sent out a tweet and i think if you're the person in charge of the bengals twitter account or fear of the person telling the guy or woman who runs the bengals twitter account what to do you're in a tough spot because that's something that you have to acknowledge but you know the pushback you're going to get. I gave it to him. The pushback is going to be. Yeah cool how about you have him in the in the ring of honor but this this legitimately does bother me. You and i've beaten this topic to death for years. We've we've done it here. We've done it at your former employer. We've done it all. It's been beaten to death but it is one thing to beat up on the nfl nfl films for not acknowledging someone when they're dead and that's unforgivable. As far as i'm concerned but it's even worse to fail to really celebrate someone's career while they are alive. They missed that opportunity. That's why i want them to have a ring of honor. I wanted for all the reasons we all do. Sam weiss should have gotten that moment. Ken riley should have gotten that moment. And what i what. I don't do anymore. I don't want to talk about the next bengals legend that passes and go god. It would have been cool. Had they brought him back and showed a video montage and he waves to fans and his story is told that they don't do it for that. Reason is that's why bothers me. That's why bothers sitting there and feeling hurt in disrespected by ken. Riley not being a part of that and to the point that you're do a pretty bold move to send out a tweet shot at at twitter that feeling of disrespect that's how your former players feel That's how all those players that want to feel that respect feel they feel disrespected. They feel forgotten. They feel like they don't matter all the things that you are trying to imply in that tweet are not having something like this in place forever is like for these former players and part of why. There's a has forever been a fracture in that relationship. And i wrote about this win win ken. Riley passed away in june about how that did restart the conversations around about potentially getting this thing going and you know there is a pretty big focus on rebranding re imaging themselves and reconnecting themselves with their fans and in may so. Maybe this is coming around the corner. I don't i don't know that but it's it's just so hard to see a claiming those feelings win. That is exactly what you do to your former players and and then consequently to your fans by not having something like this in place and it's it's it's unfortunate because teams embracing of your history is just so much of all you have to really latch onto in the day and age of player movement. Change like it's what you got. You've got these memories of goodwill the pass and and in that connection of meaning something to be cincinnati bengals you know and if you don't even attempt to make that connection you end up kind of where the bengals are just lost amongst your fans and former players. It's it's unforgivable. If it they don't do it. As unforgivable ken riley story should have been told what i said this the show yesterday. There's people around our age who are casual to maybe even somewhat hardcore bengals fans who have no idea who can riley was none whatsoever now. Is that all on the bengals. Of course not but it would certainly help if they would help. Tell his story or provide him or provide. The announcers provide us a mechanism to to provide and tell his story. And i just know what it's so cliche to do. But i know when the reds have hall of fame ceremonies man for five minutes. I'm talking about adam dunn. Yeah and i'm talking about adam done for all the right reasons for five minutes. I'm talking about ronald whoever they put in and they're they're doing that on tv and radio and there's an induction and the player in the person deserves it. I think there's also benefit to your public. That the bengals. Just don't brown i think gave you the quote. Which is we. Don't trade on dodger. There is a difference between trading on the stoller and honoring significant figures in your franchise's history. That you have benefited from the your family. Has benefited from. Who story should be told so. It's easy to get mad at the nfl that that was a that was a mistake. That was i hate it. It's it's inexcusable. Pretend a singular mistake. This has been a many many many many years mistake by the bengals and that they have consciously chosen not to fix. I mean it's not like you're unaware of it. It's it's impossible. I mean if even if you just just listen to us occasionally. I mean we've been almost on a decade now talking about this. That's just us again. You and i sat at butterbean. You're right the guy asked you the same question. You get a ring of honor. I think you're right and you know it's like i kind of joke about it. You have not really been indoctrinated to covering the bengals until you've done your mythical ring of honor. Everybody does that everybody. That's news wait. There isn't one wall do one. Well yeah we've all done it. Let's because everybody's in disbelief that something like this does not exist and you know i don't know i don't know if it would change anything with the fact that they have one player in the hall of fame i i really don't know if them honoring their own guys and being more exuberant about that or having a hall of fame changes that affect of whatever is happening and can which is obviously something. I know it wasn't her it wouldn't it wouldn't hurt and it certainly. It certainly does open yourself up when things like that or things like this happen. I was going to do when we had two long. Stretch where there was nothing to talk about. I was going to see if i could do for the athletic ring of bengals dishonor where i would outline a plan for the next decade like here the crappiest players from this year's class they could put in and i was going to go on down the line and that was actually going to include some guys from the modern team. So i haven't done it yet. But maybe when the bengals do actually have a ring of honor. I will ignite the bengals ring of dishonor. That's right who would be. I mean did you have like inaugural class. I is there somebody from john names. I mean could you just induct like every everything that happened in the ninety s. I mean can you can you like. What does the video vanguard all timed so. I had eric presser. Remember the quarterback for this is like in the nineties. This is what i was in college. And i would call talk. Radio shows and say like why. Don't they give eric kresa chance and they finally did. Last game of the season this is like ninety eight or ninety nine. They played the buccaneers. Got wacked thirty five zip and probably the last time aircraft ever put on a football helmet and it was like. Oh that's okay. That's why it was awful so the guys like that. The delay of game. I play the season two thousand two season against the chargers. Right there ring of dishonor. What about like. i mean. You've got to do something to honor that string of everybody getting arrested all the time. -solutely reggie mcneal. Didn't he the one that threw up on the car door. Yeah yeah remain mac. Yeah by the way holds unbreakable bengals record. It's not for arrest. Two kickoff returns for touchdowns. No one will ever break that. But he fell. Asleep on the brent spence bridge which i actually people probably did this morning stuck in the snow but there was that oh and then our guy. Kenny walton is five-time mark mark wa. Kenny walton is mark walton. might be. he's a first ballot. Yeah yeah. I mean do you have to wait a few years a five year waiting period or somebody who is a special case like walton at the reds hall of fame as a three year waiting period for like the modern era so we could do ring of dishonor for three years. Yeah might have to do that. Knock off knock off six months for every arrest faster. You need like an offseason podcast idea. I mean we're doing better than pork. Rinds hey speaking of which my guide taryn bland this is from the espn radio affiliate in san antonio they had the guy from southern recipe pork. Rinds on this clip. This is apparently him talking about usage of pork rinds and meatloaf every week we talk about launched me and my secret ingredient i. It's kind of the thing that that we go in there to give it a little extra this or make it more kid friendly this recipe. I wanted to cook tonight For my wife. And i we because we had some fresh wild-boar Come in from our good friends in naperville. And i had some red stag sitting around and i wanted to do with a meatloaf that's shida friendly and make delicious and as usual smoking And this is one of my all time favorite recipes and and and and it's very simple. It's just almost like your your your meatloaf that you your mom grew up. Shit kill the or killed a red stag sports station here and put it on a green egg or two out the that's from the espn radio affiliate in san antonio so it was like. Hey we're going to hear gregg popovich media session and then stick around. We've got these southern recipe pork. Rinds guy wow interesting. So that's what we turned down man. You really missed out. It is eleven minutes away from four o'clock. He's paul dander junior. He's here until four. We'll chat with a super bowl champion. Mike edwards coming up to four zero five on. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station from four. This is espn. Fifteen thousand acre with paul taylor. Junior covers the bengals. The athletic pedals ring of dishonor podcast. When j i figure feels like june june how come. They don't have running backs coach quite yet. And what's what the dude. Who was the running backs coach going to kentucky for like two weeks and now he's back in the nfl. I don't really have an answer on the jamal singleton. I think jamal singleton has people who care about sunday. Are there are. I'm sure jamal single. I think jamal singleton is was in a desire to set himself up knowing that he wants to be an offensive coordinator. He wants to find that path and didn't feel like certain and existed here and thought. Okay maybe if. I can land a job that can help me do that at kentucky and then all of a sudden with the late coaching change with that happened with the eagles. There's maybe that's a better path you know. I have a hard time getting real excited about. I'm sorry i had to go back and they're not important like it's it's an important deal but i don't really yeah not not not really when the bengals were good and when the bengals were bad for two and a half decades eight the same running backs coach. I mean jim jimmy anderson very very nice man very nice man but the running backs coach. I mean running back his like. There's a lot instinct involved in that. Yeah sure i had to ask it. It's the only piece. Lingering is weird thing that we were under the impression that that was going to get knocked out early last week gary brown. Who's been this leader in the clubhouse with there's a lot of areas with him he's had health issues that you know i don't know anything about what could be holding that up but i mean i know that that was that's a part of the equation with him no matter where he ends up. So perhaps that's i mean there's i know you and i me more than you we were. We were off as we were wrong about the way the super bowl was gonna play out. Yeah we thought that the commercials was they. Were gonna be this nonstop one thirty second spot after the other stab poignancy with lack of humor and instead we had attempted humor love celebrities your normal civil lot lot celebs making an appearance. I find it hard to believe. The bruce springsteen drives a jeep that was established. I love the boss. I don't know that i believe that. He's behind the wheel of a jeep. Liberty and i drive a jeep. That's no knock on gps just the boss driving the same car but the commercials. I was pleasantly surprised. Every almost everybody except for jeep went for humor. When we discussed it last week it was brought up that this week you would be taking on purchasing or whatever product really went after the humor just to basically is your way of saying. Thank you for doing that. And there was a commercial that came out before the super bowl. That was funny that involved t mobile And i thought you really dodged a bullet there that that thing didn't end up actually being shown and you don't wanna be a team mobile guy no. I don't know that have been that. That would really have backfired on you in most underrated moment of the super bowl right. Tom brady wins. Mvp the award is sponsored by horizon. Tom brady now's t mobile guy so they have nance. Were giving him the the verizon wireless mvp award nance goes into this spiel about. Yeah they're going to give a million dollars to small businesses on behalf of verizon. He's right before. Jim nance says verizon. Tom brady sensing the moment as only he can. Just goes into this matching us watching with us. Watching it. And i was wondering my sister. I'm like that's why he's the greatest of all time because his patient. The only person in the united states was wondering how he was going to handle this like. He's about to get an award from verizon but he clearly has commercial now for t. mobile. He's going to figure out a way to do this. And the only reason. I've ever paid attention to car. Racing is i like it when the pepsi guy wins the coke race and then it's always awkward. Here's the we put on the car and somebody knocks off because he does pepsi and vice versa. So i was interested in how that was going to play out and tom brady. Hamblur total pro. Those are rare instincts to understand. Manage all your brains in the moment. He's seven civil all hell's breaking loose and yet he had the presence of mind to understand. This is going to mention verizon. I do t. mobile. I gotta make sure verizon doesn't go out over the air and he did. He was fantastic. Yeah what's your insurance. Are you going to have to move over to state farm now or you can have to. Yeah i mean drake for state farm. That was pretty solid right there and they they weren't holding back. I feel like i don't know your insurance situation. But maybe that is the payoff here. Emma liberty mutual guy but. I'm now considering komo radio state farm. So i feel like by staying with state farm. I'm gonna be true to true to the bet. I assume you're going to add paramount. Plus are you gonna paramount. Plus not sure. There's anything i really want to see. But i'm going to have to yachts repeated attempts at humor. There was also this right so the game starts here a super bowl right. It's this national party. I'm looking for funny commercials and like the first commercial of the first quarter is about this movie where people go to the beach and they age miraculously in like days and mom can find her kid because he's now thirty to just see this for this. Well i've missed watching you my sister. I'm like who wants to see that. And why is that arrogant. The first commercial spot the super bowl some creepy shamlan movie where people go to the beach and they're four years old and they leave the beach in their forty two. I don't wanna watch that. No betting on. That is the clear summer blockbuster. I mean that's that's an unstoppable plot I liked that all right. We'll talk to you next week. Yeah hopefully i'll bring my meatloaf recipe. Just open includes pork rind. Paul dana junior covers the cincinnati bengals for the athletic subscribe at the athletic dot com. And make sure you follow on twitter at paul diener junior a win woods product who also went to. Uk is a super bowl champion. Mike edwards will join us next on. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sport station.

bengals joe burrow nfl Trent williams akeem adedeji super bowl cincinnati espn j morrison Paul dana chiefs Ken riley Dana junior mo egger Dana gina villainy football paul dander Natty bengals Mahomes
1/25/21 - The Mo Egger Show

Mo Egger

1:59:45 hr | 2 months ago

1/25/21 - The Mo Egger Show

"Are you ready for some football. Hi this is dan. Hoard joined dave lapa may for every play of every game on the official home of the bengals. Espn fifteen thirty. I will do that when a season actually starts in like eight months good