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Focus On the Family Daily Broadcast
How to Be a Prayer Warrior for Your Children
"It's vital that we bring our children and their hearts to Jesus. Absolutely. I mean, that's the number one thing, I think, on a parent's heart and mind, right? I know that's true for gene and I, our boys are in their early 20s. We want them to have a fervent faith. Sometimes we're scratching our head. Are they there? They assure us that they know the lord, and that's good. But you always want to see more, right? It's just natural for a parent to want to see a vibrant faith and we're going to talk today about those young adults who may not be expressing that. We call them prodigals from time to time and their behavior suggests that maybe they're not close to the lord. So I'm excited that we're going to cover that topic today because many, many parents are going through difficulties with their adult children. And we hear so much heartache and grief from parents, and we're so glad our counseling team can talk to them and guide and certainly if you're there, give us a call. Our number is 800 a family. Well, doctor Irwin lutzer is pastor emeritus at moody church in Chicago. He was the senior pastor there for over 36 years. He's written a number of books, and one of those that is the basis for our conversation today is called a practical guide for praying parents. Get a copy from us here at the ministry, the details are in the show notes. Doctor lutzer, welcome back to focus. It's so good to have you. I'm so glad to be back and to have this exciting topic because no matter where I go the great burden on the hearts of parents is wayward children. Yeah. And we're going to be talking about how I believe we should pray for them and how transforming it was for me to understand a new way of praying, but we'll get into that. Well, you know, so often we as parents would carry so many burdens, you know? And there's a lot of things tugging at our children's heart, especially if they're in public schools, the things that are exposed to, it could be a daunting task to live in this modern world and be raising kids that have so much exposure to things that, you know, just two decades ago, kids didn't see. Social media pornography. You had to go find pornography. Now it finds you. Being a pastor for 36 years, it's nothing new under the sun, right? You were experiencing these kinds of things, maybe different, but children that weren't doing well with the lord. You know, one of the things that we did at moody church which I looked back upon with a great deal of joy is we designated a month that was a month in January and we called it pops, parents of prodigals, and we prayed for prodigals. Now we doubled our prayer meeting.
Pray the Word with David Platt
Forthcoming Clarity
"John chapter 13 verse 7. Jesus answered him. What I am doing, you do not understand now. But afterward, you will understand this first has meant so much to me over recent years amidst challenges and trials of various kinds to use language from first Peter. And I just want to encourage you with it today, especially if you were walking through challenge trial in your life. In any way, this picture of Jesus washing his disciples feet and Simon Peter sang. You're in a wash my feet and he's resisting what Jesus is wanting to do in his life. And she just looks at him and says, what I am doing, you don't understand now, but afterward, you will understand. And there was a moment. I was a year plus ago, and I was walking through something in an older brother in Christ, I passed her for decades who I respect deeply. I was sharing with him some of the struggles that I was walking through and he looked at me and he just quoted this verse and he said, David, you don't understand now what God is doing. But afterward, one day, you will understand. I was talking to another pastor friend later that exact same day who said something very similar. He'd been studying heaven and he said David I just don't think based on what the Bible teaches about who God is, what heaven is like, that we're going to get there one day and God's going to say to us, you know that trial, that difficulty, that challenge you walk through. Yeah, I don't know what that was about. No. And one day, we're going to understand that God was working in ways we couldn't see and didn't understand. But all throughout that challenge and trial, he was faithful, and he was wise. He was loving toward you.
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
Israel Doesn't Need America's Help With Domestic Affairs
"Center cotton in terms of your lawyer and you're on the judiciary committee. When you see Americans lecturing Israelis on what to do with their court system, do you respond as I do, which is it's none of our business. That's a domestic issue we should not be hectoring them on either way, but if you're going to hack or at least be consistent with your position taken in the United States and the left is not doing that. I was in Israel last month. I was very clear about this at the time. I'm entirely confident that Israelis of all political persuasions can manage their own domestic affairs. They don't need the help of America to manage their own domestic affairs. They do need the help of America, however, to help broker peace agreements with their neighbors as we saw with Abraham accords under president Trump. They do need help to counteract the common terrorist threat that threatens both our nations and they certainly need help to counteract the Iranian nuclear threat. That's what Israel needs America's helps do. They don't need American politicians meddling in their own domestic affairs. I will
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
Blame Biden for the Putin-Xi Partnership
"Contin, I want to start with the biggest story of the week, the month and the year. Xi and Putin together again in Moscow. Now, the pact of steel didn't come around until 1938, Mussolini and Hitler started getting around and together in the mid 30s. How ominous is that gathering in the cementing of that alliance in your eyes? Well, it's very worrisome to you. I want to be clear, Joe Biden didn't bring these two together. They are anti American dictators who want to overturn an American led global order of security and stability that serves our interests and replace it with one that serves their interests. However, Joe Biden's weakness in his first two years in office have created what they see as new opportunities for advancing their shared interests, whether it was the appeasement of China and Russia both early in the administration, the fiasco in Afghanistan or now Joe Biden's halting half measures in Ukraine. Time and again, Joe Biden has encouraged these two anti American dictators to act on their long shared interest in undermining America's national security and the global world. The global order that advances America's interest as opposed to the anti American interest of countries like China and Russia and others.
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
TikTok CEO Shou Chew Is Set to Testify Before House Committee
"All right, so we've got shoes echo is going to testify today on why TikTok isn't a menace. Well, TikTok is a menace. And we know it's a menace. And The Wall Street Journal reports that TikTok reassures advertisers over the ban that is threatened. You can't reassure advertisers because TikTok is an engine of the Chinese Communist Party. It's that simple. And the dossier they are collecting on you and your children, if you use it. And what the malware, they may have inserted into your system, they may be listening to you right now. Do not underestimate what the Chinese communists do, and they're doing it through TikTok. But The New York Times cautions pulling the plug on TikTok will be a lot harder than it looks.
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
Xi and Putin Pledge to Shape New World Order
"Xi and Putin bind China and Russia's economic economies further, despite war in Ukraine. Nothing major came out of the public announcements of the Xi Putin summit, but the body language and everything else is ominous for the west. That is an alliance. It is all the harm hallmarks of an alliance. There's a little debate online last night. Well, this is just another meeting between world leaders. No, no, no, no. It is an alliance between the ruthless man in the world, Xi Jinping, and the most brutal man in the world Putin. And they are aligned with a religious fanatic Khamenei in Iran, and that's the new axis of evil. That's the two version and it's the one yard. And they got a proxy state in North Korea as well. But those three are the big deals, and they are like the pact of steel from the 30s. That happened. They've left, they've gone back to their countries, be aware. Just
The Eric Metaxas Show
Voddie Baucham Weighs In on White Pastors Spouting CRT
"Do you make of the idea that you've got a lot of white evangelical pastors, either bowing to critical race theory or letting it into their churches? What do you think is going on there? Is that just stupid white guilt and ignorance of what they're actually dealing with? I can not for the life of me fathom that they would open the door to something that you know and I know is pernicious. Yeah, there is a great deal of this stupid white guilt going on for sure. But what's interesting about that is now people are walking that back, right? You know, in 2020, 2021, there were a lot of people opening the door to these ideologies. A lot of those folks now are walking that back, but they're walking it back without acknowledging it. They're walking it back without saying, hey, that episode was unfortunate. That episode was wrong. Now they're trying to act like they were never on the wrong side of this issue. And hope that people, you know, don't go back and look at the tape. Because it is. It's bankrupt. This ideology is morally bankrupt. It's philosophically bankrupt. It's intellectually bankrupt. And it was never something that was sustainable. So it's interesting to see people walk away from it. Or people just walking further into it and further away from Christianity at all together.
The Eric Metaxas Show
Unpacking Your Emotional Objections to God With Michael Brown
"Folks, the book is why so many Christians have left the faith. I'm speaking with the author, my friend Michael Brown. Michael, you just talking about a number of things. There is so much here and it's important for us to talk about this. But when you're talking about the goodness of God, I also think when we're talking about questions like hell or certain objections that people have, on one level, there is no answer. No, there's I think it's perfectly appropriate sometimes to say, listen, there's a mystery. I can't pretend that I have an easy answer to that. There's no easy answer to that. There are things that trouble me and I am confused by. But the overwhelming evidence is so clear. You know, it's kind of like somebody saying like, ah, I don't believe your car exists. You'd say, well, I drove here today. And it takes me back and forth. And what do you mean by that? Well, I don't understand how the carburetor works and I just don't accept it. You know, he just say, well, listen, I don't know what carburetor works, but the car works. And so we can talk about that. And maybe I'll never have the brains to figure out how this part works or that part works. But people grab onto these objections and they think that's good enough. And I feel ultimately, it's an emotional rejection. They're not being rational. They are just trying to find something to wave and to say, this makes me mad. And so I throw the whole thing away. Yeah, look, there's the old saying that some of the atheist books can be summarized in the same. There is no God, and I hate him. So you can't deny that people get burned. Look, a woman called my show the other day called my radio show. You should go to Times Square church in New York, Jewish woman. Now, apostate angry, very, very angry. And she's got all these reasons, and she's now pro abortion. And et cetera, but one thing she didn't think she was treated rightly by the people in the church. It's like, hey, that's a great church that I preach there many times. Well, people weren't nice or whatever. They judged me or something where they said I had this problem. Who knows what? Every church you're going to have someone with a complaint. But she got hurt by people, even if in her own mind, she got hurt by people and turned against God. What happens though? What happens when you came to faith through a particular leader? His books changed your life and you heard him speak and God used that person and you came to the lord through them or your pastor was the one that prayed you into the kingdom and now you find out your pastor secretly been living in adultery or you find out that this well-known speaker was living a secret life. It's easy to understand how people question everything now, even though it's not logical or rational instead of emotional response.
The Eric Metaxas Show
'Why So Many Christians Have Left the Faith' With Michael Brown
"Are ate more books. You know, people say that about me and it's like, no, no, no. That's not true of me. But you, there are certain people that I don't know how you do it. But this one, the title, it's very provocative title. And again, brand new book, why so many Christians have left the faith. So let's talk about it. I have my theories. What do you say? First, let's recognize there is a problem. You know, there's some say, well, if the true Christians, they won't leave either way, a lot of people are dropping out. Prominent leaders have dropped out fully apostasized, pastors, worship leaders, cemetery professors, don't believe the Bible anymore. We hear the stats about profession Christians dropping at a rapid rate in America, young people dropping out of church. So there are lots of different reasons. There are some who say, look, look, Eric, Jesus prophesied that there'd be an anti falling away. And this is just the expected falling away. Well, it's a falling away. There's no question that it's happening. But to just say, well, it's the final thing. There's something we can do about it. No, I don't believe that at all. And for sure, there are a number of different factors. And what I do in the book Eric is I try to break down all the different factors because everyone has their own story. Each person has their own story. And I try to shoot why this is happening and then how we can address it. So for example, one of the big issues, you've got a great book about atheism. One of the big issues is that the new atheists that really sprung up about 1516 years ago. Bestselling book, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel Dunn. What happened was the memes, the quotes, the ideas, the mindset of those books kind of trickled down to the general public. So that 12 year olds are talking about I'm not going to listen to a Bronze Age God and some antiquated book and everyone thinks the Bible is hateful and bigoted and so on. So the sentiments trickled out,
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
The Language of Evangelicalism
"John, I think you'll probably know. I'm an evangelical Roman Catholic Presbyterian. That means I go to mass on Saturday night and I go to my Presbyterian Church on Sunday, one river two banks, but I speak evangelical very well. Rick Warren and Greg Laurie are friends, Al Muller is a weekly conversationalist with me. I know, you know, John piper I read desiring God years ago. I know most of the stuff you talk about. I've got to tell you at the beginning. I have never heard of CJ Mahoney or Lou engel until I read your book. Never heard and I've been covering religion since 1992. So first question, do you think your perspective in testimony might be jaded by that particular covenant life church experience and these particular pastures? Well, I guess, can I ask you what you mean by jaded, just that my experience might not reflect a more mainstream experience? Is that what you're kind of? Yeah, I think mainstream evangelicalism is not anti intellectual at all. But then again, I've had doctor Mark Roberts as a pastor for 25 years. He got his undergrad and PhD from Harvard. Doctor Larry is my current pastor in oldtown is a phenomenal scholar and preacher and archbishop who is listening right now in the author of three books is an intellectual giant in the Catholic world and I've written three books on evangelicalism and this, I just think testimony is a 100% accurate about 1% of the church. How's that sound? Yeah, I think my dad raised a similar objection. When I talked to him about the book, he does not feel like a lot of evangelical culture is anti intellectual. And I think it's a totally fair question to raise. I do think that even if you haven't heard of CJ Mahaney or Lou angle, you know, I did some reporting recently. Let me deal with CJ first. CJ is not a figure on the same level as somebody like Al molar. But until about, you know, 7, 9, ten years ago, he was of a similar stature to Al mohler, if not as nationally known. So never quite got to that level, but was kind of on his way there was working with Mueller quite closely in a group of other ministers who were organizing a conference every year called. I think together for the gospel. Danny Louisville.
Mike Gallagher Podcast
Kamala Harris: Climate Mental Health Stops People From Having Families
"This week, vice president Kamala Harris appeared at a climate conference in Miami Beach, Florida. Listen to this sound bite and tell me that she's this dumb. One of the young leaders was talking to me about climate mental health. I said, tell me what's going on with your peers. And she talked about how her peers are thinking about it. One example is whether when they're ready, could they start a family? What can they do and how can they adapt the education that they're having now to their activism? You know, the word projection, it's the Kamala Harris of the world that are messing up our kids that are screwing up our kids. If they have climate mental health challenges, like she suggesting that you're doing it to them, you're terrifying kids by your histrionics about thinking the world's coming to an end in the next three years because we're driving around in cars that are powered by gasoline. You people are goofy. You're not, you're absolutely nuts. Climate mental health honestly, does anybody have a child who sits around and says, oh, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to have a family because of the polar ice caps melting and the polar bears don't have a place to sit. Is that what you sit around and your kids sit around and shoot that? Get them to a therapist. Take them to the doctor. Take them to your priest, your pastor. Your rabbi, please, they need they need some spirituality in their life.
The Eric Metaxas Show
Check Out Barry Meguiar's New Book 'Ignite Your Life'
"Book is ignite your life, I'm speaking with the author Barry Maguire, a dear friend, very, you just shared that, so here you are, and again, there are a lot of people that need to hear this. They think if I'm excited about God, if I'm excited about Jesus, do I have to go into full-time ministry? They have some idea. Yeah. I gotta go. Most people do. Listen, William wilberforce, about whom I write in my book amazing grace. What he got so excited about God, he thought, I guess this means I have to leave politics. And he goes to talk to John Newton, who wrote to him amazing grace and says, what do I do? And John Newton says no. Stay where you are, God will use you in the place that he's already put you. And you're telling me that this happened to you, you're sitting there in your office and this man says, God has given you a great ministry here. I said, why did you say that? Why are you telling me he says, well, a passer could never reach the people you're reaching. But as a businessman, you can and he gave me this line, Eric, in 1976, it's obvious that your business is your pulpit. I said, I got to tell you, I just prayed this prayer, not 20 minutes ago, and he said, oh, that explains it. I said, explains what. He said, I just dropped missionaries over the Orange County airport. I was driving a red hill, which was the closest Main Street to my office. He said, God spoke to me. And said, go see Barry Maguire. And I driven by your office many times. I saw the name of it. I put together that for the church. And I argue the guy I said, I don't know this guy. I'm going to make a fool of myself. And when I walked in your office just now, my heart was beating in my throat. I was so nervous I didn't know what to say, but how's it going? Now, this is also a message on obedience. If he had not been obedient, I would have been a failure as a pastor. I'm a businessman. Because of him, I had stayed the course and got his recipe, but I've then till now I've seen that everything I do is administering quite frankly for all of us right now. All of you, everything you say and do. Is moving everybody watching you closer further away from Jesus.
The Officer Tatum Show
Homosexuality and Religion
"It's funny how these African leaders are clearly opposed to homosexuality in their country. They want nothing to do with it. And they are against it. And in you know, I think this is my thoughts about it in America, and I move on to another topic, but I just really think that people should have the right to disagree. They people should have a right to say, I don't support homosexual behavior. People should have a right to say, I do support homosexual behavior. And matter of fact, I want to go and be with a man. That's something. People have the right in this country to do both. If you want to go marry a man, people should not hurt you. You know, to be honest, people shouldn't even really care. Unless you start to deal with the religious aspect of it, if you marry a man marrying a man, you can't be a pastor. That's against the Bible. You can create your own religion and he can do whatever you want to do. But you can't be following a religion following Christianity claim you're following Christ because if you ask me, it's a fraudulent organization that you run it. If you say you follow Christ, but then you're doing exactly the opposite of what Christ is doing, but you claim it to be a church and you're taking people's money every month. You're a fraudulent organization and that should come to an end. But in America, not every institution is a Christian institution. I wish it was, but it's not. And I think that people should be able to live whatever life they want to live, just like in a kingdom, or just like in life, God created men and gave us free will. So if you want to send your whole life and do whatever you want to do, that's fine.
The Eric Metaxas Show
John Coleman Deals With Skepticism in His New Novel 'Miracles'
"To John Coleman about his brand new book. It is a novel, which is to say a work of fiction with the title miracles, as you know, I wrote a book about miracles, which is nonfiction, C. S. Lewis, wrote a book about miracles, nonfiction. This is a novel, a work of fiction, but John in the book you deal with what's right at the center of all of our lives. The skepticism, there are people. I have told some miracle stories. One of the stories I think it's, yeah, it's in the book. It's in my book miracles about the Christmas cross. I remember sharing that story with this incredibly intelligent person right after it happened. And I was so freaked out. It was one of the most miraculous things I've ever experienced. And this person said, yeah, the mind does funny things sometimes. And I said, did you just hear what I said? And you're thinking my mind in front of you, you're not paying attention. You're not being logical. People like really smart people sometimes they don't have the category of the miraculous. They have to just bracket it out because it's too disturbing. Well, and that's one of the tensions I like to explore in the book is, you know, the reaction is not just that the secular world, but of the Christian community. I don't think would be unified around miracles. Correct. And I saw that manifesting in two ways. One, I do think a lot of people that are highlighted, there's a story of a woman named Cheryl street in the book. And I won't ruin too much of it, but she experiences a miracle. She's from a relatively kind of quiet conservative denomination. And she's almost embarrassed to speak about it with the rest of the congregation with her pastor because they kind of think she's probably fooling herself, that it's her mind playing tricks on her. They don't think it could have really happened. And so here's this sincere Christian woman who thinks she's who has experienced the miracle. But when she shares it, she meets skepticism in the church. And then on the other side, not just skepticism, but I think that some Christians, depending on the source of that miraculous happening, we actually feel divided by it would feel aggressive towards the person performing those or those claiming them, it could be false prophecy. And I think there's a real tension in that.
The Eric Metaxas Show
Greg Locke Talks His New Documentary "Come Out in Jesus Name"
"My guess, pastor Greg Locke, who's made this film come out in Jesus name. Just told me something that I did not know. And I'm really glad we didn't miss this. The film will be in theaters one night only march 13th. So it doesn't start a run on March. It is in theaters one night, Monday, march 13th, and you just told me what is going to happen on March 13th. You're going to play the film, and then tell us, I don't even know how you can do this with technology, but tell us what's going to happen. At the end of the film, in theaters on March 13th. Absolutely. And this is really a miracle. And this is the reason it's a one night situation right now because as a fathom event, once the credits roll and it fades to black in all 2000 theaters all over America, they're actually going to pipe me in. I'll be in our tent, which is our church building. And I'm going to go live and they have given me 30 full minutes live to preach the gospel and do what they're billing as history's largest mass deliverance service right there live in the theaters. And so I'm going to have people break off curses, do renunciations, forgive people, and start calling out demonic spirits in theaters all over America. You can't buy that type of a platform Eric. It's going to be unbelievable. And I'm telling you, you're going to have workers in all of the areas and just start getting people set free. So I don't know what's going to happen. But are you saying, but you said you're in 2000 theaters? Yes. 2000. This is a big deal.
The Eric Metaxas Show
Pastor Greg Locke Anticipates Another Revival
"Back. I'm talking to my friend pastor Greg Locke. He is the founding and lead pastor of global vision Bible church in mount Juliet, Tennessee, right outside Nashville author of a number of books. You know, Greg, what I always say to my buddy Ken fish. It's like part of the frustration is there is so much of this and so few who are trained in dealing with it. Which is why I'm glad you're doing this every single week in your church because there is so there are so many people suffering from this and I really believe this is an end time move of God that we're going to see people coming to faith as a result of this kind of ministry. Oh, absolutely. You and I both, you know, we share a love for revival history, right? And so it's not that God didn't do amazing things in the past. But if you look at every single revival in the past, you look at the Welsh revival, azusa street browns will first and second great awakening the hebrides revival, you know, Jeremiah Calvin landfire survival. All of them had a limitation because when deliverance started to break out, it was shut down. It's exactly what happened with the Jesus revolution with the whole Time Magazine thing. Whenever deliverance got to a place where it started making people uncomfortable, it was shut down. And I think that we are right now in the prophetic film and of the book of Joel in the last days, God will provide a spirit upon all flesh or what does that look like in the last days whosoever should call upon the name of the lord shall be delivered. And people are like, well, you know, deliverance ministry is not in the Bible. In the model prayer Jesus said deliver us from evil. And so it's all over the Bible. There are 286 verses in Matthew Martin Luke and John, where Jesus converses with and cast out demons. It's a third of his ministry. And then the disciples and then the 70 and then you and I Mark 16. Paul, Stephen, Philip, it's all in the Bible.
The Eric Metaxas Show
Greg Locke Describes How People Open Themselves to Evil Spirits
"Is it that people something happens and they get whatever term it is, they get demonized, somehow a demonic entity, a demon, an evil spirit, gets into their lives and harasses them, and some people hear voices, they don't know where to go to who to talk to about it. I'm sure a lot of pastors say, oh, you know, go to psychiatrists, and you get some meds for that. If it's a demon meds can not fix it. Right. Absolutely. You can't cancel out a demon, right? You can't counsel out a demon. You can't medicate a demon out. Number one, one of the biggest ways is other than a generational curse, because God's plainly says, if you're born into a family where there has been witchcraft, occultism, satanism, idolatry, deep levels of religion other than Christianity. He said, I'll visit the iniquity of the fathers into the third and fourth generation. That's a 120 to a 160 years. So there are people that are born with a generational curse because of oaths, for example, to secret societies, the masonic lodge, things like that. There are people that are born with such as a spirit of rejection, the spirit of abandonment, because maybe the mom, word curse that child, like, oh my goodness, this is another mouth to feed. I can't believe I've got to carry this baby. Full term. I don't need another baby. And at that moment, don't think that that baby emotionally and mentally can not receive that word curse and that allows a legal contract if you will of an evil spirit to slip in and babies can be born with a spirit of abandonment of spirit of rejection and their whole life. They wonder why every single relationship they have turns out to be a crap fast because they always feel abandoned. They always feel rejected, much times through molestation, abuse, people are opened up to Shane and guilt. The number one way that people open themselves up is a colt involvement, known or unknown. It doesn't make any difference. You mess with the ouija board when you're 8 years old, you open yourself up to a whole plethora to a whole Pandora's box of evil spirits, witchcraft, curses, people mess around with seances, addiction to horror movies, celebrating Halloween. I mean, there's a lot of ways that people open themselves up to witchcraft. And so that's one of the commonest ways that people are open to evil spirits. There's many of them.
The Eric Metaxas Show
Ray Comfort and Eric Discuss David Wilkerson
"Need to ask you. So when David walker, now he was my pastor, I started going to Times Square church in New York City in 1990. And in many ways, my that formed my spiritual foundation was a big part of it. And David wilkerson was a firebrand. Sometimes in a bad way, but 98% of the time in an amazingly wonderful way. He was just a character. I mean, just incredible, like an Old Testament prophet. And he you're saying that he discovered what you were saying. And this was in the 80s when was this? No, this was 1993. He called me from his car phone. He had listened to the teaching in his car. That was a big deal back then coined from a car. That's a big deal. And he flew me across to preach in the church in 1993. I got to have lunch with David Wilson, which thrilled me. It was more exciting than having lunch with John the Baptist because of what would have been on the menu for baptist. But it was a great thrill for me. And that opened up the ministry because his name is so well known then. I mean, it's funny because I was going to Times Square church in 1993. And I often forget things, but it seems to me now that I do remember being there when you preach because I was going to the church at that time. But I didn't realize you were on the left side on the third row back. Thank you. Left side facing the crowd or in the other direction. That would be about where I would have sat and I'm not even kidding. But
Desperate Pastor Podcast
"pastor" Discussed on Desperate Pastor Podcast
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"We have to be people that see things with spiritual right right and understand that instead of just living in the moment. but it's i mean nobody. Nobody enjoys being criticized. You like hearing like hey good job and and even if it's like you did a good job there's one thing i was concerned about or that. I wanna question. But i love you and i care about you and that's why i'm asking. It's often the well. You didn't do that right. Yeah stop like what. His christmas vacation lights are blinking. And i know that arts thank you get the whole thing and somebody points that right. Wow that's what you took away right. Okay that's hard. It's hard to fight against and end. It does go back in many ways. It goes back to me. Like i gotta deal with that. I got it over it. Because i don't want people like then coming up. Do you like. Oh you're so awesome. You're so stop like no. It's not what i'm looking for us. I mean when i'm fishing for its. But i wanna go hi. I've said that. Make almost hard to any of you. Because i i would. I would rather not have that more the ladder like the that was so cute. Yeah there's like every flesh instance in me wants to say what part. What did i say that was so impactful because no they could you even tell me we talked about the because sometimes i think it's just a default going through a congratula calling hours. I'm sorry for your loss. Oh great sermon. Today really hit home. I used to get in trouble for not like old school school church. There'd be a benediction from the backs of the pastor could stand in the foyer and be and all that. When i'm done i pray done and i stay up front and if you wanna come talk. Sure absolutely that's more more better. I'm okay with that..
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"They've got a flock to care for care groups and people to have over for dinner and it's like days are just well that's one of the hardest things about ministry. I think one of the hardest things as a pastor as you have friends you have people you care about and people that care about you right and for whatever reason even good reasons like i i got a new job or fill in the blank. I can give you one hundred different reasons. He left That hurts because it's like we'll still get dinner. We'll still say like. I appreciate the gesture. It's like when you graduate from high school like man. We're going to like you know you go do your thing and it's not even a thing like i don't like you. It's just we're not in those circles anymore. Were naturally crossing paths and doing life together and yeah it's heart. We lost forty families in our church. One point which then pushed us to like almost a point of desperation of like we have medical stuff like we've saw house and that's not my wife wanted to do but look we gotta do this main. We don't know what's going to happen. But we gotta trust and god provided in god blessed and god did everything that god does and but we wanted to make sure that we were being faithful and good stewards. And but yeah you gotta make some really tough decisions. Sometimes yeah i think back to. When i when i left my job come into ministry. That was a significant move and it was like the fact that my wife was on board. I was like okay this right and it but then our house caught up to us. We built a house and oh well. We were both working on their jobs. A different planet for life and they years on recently and our kids are getting older and you know but you know similarly we're like oh god kinda blessed us in that move and we like where we're at almost better but again he had to change us because we never would have been okay with like the love. I have for the house that i have now. I would have been like never know my early twenties. I'll never live there. You know and i'd never that's not ideal like oh thank you. God gave us that and eliminated that. And yeah i i think you're right. We went through a season. We're kind of Today aren't we. We are season where like We were trying to be everything to everybody and maintain all these relations like you and nicollier. You mean yeah nicole. And i'm trying to maintain so many different relationships.
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"My we need to take cuts across the board to say everyone needs to take less until we figure out what's going on and you know that in one hand i'm lacking in one hand. The lord's giving me that ability. My whole life just raised. Not in a hyper. Consumer things are my family. Was we had little. When i was little and then we had more when an older when as a teenager. You know like my my dad's business had done well and things that were like not. Even a possibility became a possibility. So by the time i graduated high school i was kinda getting sucked into that little so i've always kind of had a gun anti that. Like if you see what. I drive and all that i just don't care in almost like a governed that in my life where i'm like i'm not gonna let myself care. I can't be because they see it as a trap and but yet that's different than saying. Oh boy like if we this ministry could truly we might have to shut down like there's a lot of churches facing that and that i mean that is a scary thing when it's not only your livelihood but truly feel a call. It's not just. I'm losing my income. I'm losing my calling. I'm letting these people down you know that is a that is a heavy heavy thing to to feel and i feel bad because i know i know many places. I'm with this on this article and even though this is from last year i think we're we're still some people are like. They're stringing out and they're down to the people didn't comeback people that did not come back. It's one thing to have the people backing your church and have to basically at some point you have to. We all hate which is get up and say look. Here's where we're at now. These are the numbers. And we can't sustain this and motorway those people to to recommit to the ministry you know and give..
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"One of the ways did not grow weary is to be wise and to be a true leader and when somebody comes up with just so many fundamental problems with the leadership in the decisions is put it back to them and just say like we love you but maybe this is not the place for you because we're not going to change. We're not going to because you like it this way. Guess what this person over there at that way and that person over there likes to the different way but we're here to collectively worship god and serve the lord and impact our community in the kingdom. And that's what we're about so we're not going to sit here every three weeks because somebody said one little thing or a song was too long or we did too many or the sermon. We can't do that. We can't do it and if that's what you want. There are thousands of churches. Let's put you to a church that's gonna make you know and that sounds route to but it's like they can't have the lawyer would say shake the dust keep moving there's mission we have to be on mission and when people with us mission. I think the church collectively spent too much time trying to keep people and that leads to weariness. Focus shouldn't be about keeping people should be about reaching people really launching people. What's that i said. There's another one of those. Yeah there you go. Yeah repeatable portable memorable phrase Bro really the idea of people leaving whether we like it or not really leads into another problem. That really makes pastors weary. That is pastors. Don't know if they're churches will be able to support ministries financially future in different things that we do opted. It's about the money but the aspect is like the reality is it. Takes money to ministry and it takes money to make things happen and the more people that you lose you can see how that plays out and that causes pastors really to be weary in a lot of ways worrying about the future of the church and everything that goes with allergy..
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"But that works by them. You're giving feedback when he quit. Yeah but given lots of feedback right now coming in hot. I have another go ahead. No no you said something that made me think of this quote that i just heard yesterday About fighting and that went away. Because it's it's gonna be rare..
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"And when you took away what i wanted. They're like you're wrong. And i can't stand you. The reason why. I stand that. I like no no no. I'm talking to not just guys at my church but you guys. I'm talking to other people. I know and every person that i have come into contact with aligned myself with it. Ministry was all bane the same drums saying this is what we have to do if nothing else. Some of them were more cautious than we were even being at times. You know what. I'm going okay That sound so the person that comes up to me and just says no. Because i said so can't even let that really bothered me but but we do we carry some of it. I was just telling my wife the other day. I said you know. There's always sounds dumb but like what if we just go to the word and say we're just gonna live this regardless of what anyone says if people are upset. People love us if they hate us that cannot be the measuring stick. It has to be in my in obedience guys word into the colleagues put on my life. If i have that. I'm just gonna let everything else. Go not gonna fight that person on facebook not gonna. I'm not gonna get into those arguments because there's no fruit in those arguments. I preached a sermon. Recently it was on the last sermon in fijian's and it was talking about praying at all times in the spirit. And i know i mentioned this to you guys think personally but if you look at the you start to look at it and it really means praying with the spiritual mind like when closet says set your mind on things that are above and so the whole context of praying at all times in the spirit is. Don't pray about now that you shouldn't breathe president but don't pray that that's your highest priority pre with the spiritual mindset per the god would bless that president that god would protect you in the nation that he will guard your heart..
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"Think it's ignorance but i know i know this to be true if i if i want to back a certain point of view i can find somebody on online. I'm going to be a flatter. I'll give you all the proof that the earth is flat. Anything that you want. You can find evidence for online. I think in this whole thing about truth is out the so boxed up put my indian's hat on how about that to let everybody else know that can't see what's going on. Mike and joe have both stood up as point. Yeah now i feel really small or i have to listen to kim. We did it just so he can look down. That'd be we'll take their hands and they make the triangle like power position they fingers together extended. Yeah but they're talking. It's like a a power play to. Yes that's right now that all body language. Now i'm used to looking at people it's okay to. He says viciously where you started on that with the polars of you know our arguments where sound reasoning and discourse has been kicked out of the public forum and it's either in camp on this side or that side Played to an audience. That's definitely at a heightened stance. But i look at it in a positive and think that's not biblical so sound biblical reasoning will shine brighter. When done appropriately. I think most oftentimes it immature believers within the church or not. They don't govern their lives by sound. Biblical reasoning. Govern lives by their emotions. What they how they feel facebook. Yeah and how they feel. I feel this. This is my truth. And i wanted to punch him in the face in the name of jesus punch. I don't know if you say that you're christian. If you say that your christ follower we got we gotta talk. We got beef because either you believe the bible or you. don't either. This is the truth or it's not and that's it and that's all we have to stand on. It can't be no no. I believe most of it. Or i believe some of it or my heart tells me right well because the bible doesn't allow that always say about jesus people say well. I don't believe that jesus said this. You know you don't get to pick. He wasn't right sometimes in wrong other time so at the bible doesn't allow or in the case of jesus people's there is a good man. Yeah we'll jesus doesn't allow you to call a good just to go there. I'm i'm god right they greg. He doesn't allow that so you don't get to redefine him like that's not how it works. He doesn't identify as a good man. Right the messiah the savior world and it says the lord. That's who you done that here. All this weariness coming out of going. Yeah because i'm trying to turn the corner in my own like in the ministry to say like there are people. Sorry if you're listening and you attend church. You might be a fool and like fools. Don't want reason they don't want to learn. They only one here themselves. And they only want to shout and carry on and justify their stands. They already have so part of the wisdom. If you're going to be a pastor is we have to start open. We have to start with hearing people measuring that against the truth of god's word and then moving forward isn't it so for us if we take it back to the covert thing. That's it was so simple sitting at a table of mature believers. There was no discord whatsoever. There was like okay. Here's this thing going on..
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"Yeah Some of this roles into the next one that basically the pastors discouraged about fighting taking place among church members about post quarantine church but not even post corentin church. As much at this point. And i think our ministries. I would say a lot of this has to do with things like what you guys are talking about. But also Different political issues current political climate. They get something. I feel like different conversations with people like it will naturally come out of this person's conversation. They're very strong this way. But then you talk to another person in the church that you have a great relationship with an it comes out the opposite of that person you feel like you people to polar opposite sides. It's i've never experienced i. This is my total opinion. That i feel that that the last president that we had for some reason it has mainstreamed this widespread division. And i'm not nest about santa before or against whatever president i- scripturally. I'm going to support and pray for whoever's position i don't really care really honestly who i voted for but i feel like those last four years and i'm not saying that the president was innocent. I'm saying i feel like it. Kinda it kinda mainstreamed this division. That still exists today and even more so that now. It's it's rampant if you if i don't know and so that i think than filters into the church and it's like if you don't if you don't believe what i believe you're jerk if you don't believe what we can't get along we can't have different opinions you either are you either love the lord or you love satan and that's years no inbetween kind of thing and it's and that facebook is as not help with that would probably one of the nicest reprieves of our pandemic happened on monday or tuesday monday right when facebook and everything was down for a number of hours and again. I don't hate our president. I don't hate facebook but we just we gotta wake up. You gotta wake up. He get civically. It's definitely like you're saying over the past four years and even now in the current climate. In and i feel like it has drawn a very definitive line in the sand caused people within the church to to draw very definitive line. What you'll find is there's people in the church on both sides of that line and they both see that line is extremely definitive right now and i think that gets weary to hear conversations over and over and over again and you're tired you tired of hearing it in in some aspects. Paul talks about unity. Unity unity you didn't even think about your body your body's not unified like if you're one leg is trying to go right and your legs trying to go left like you're you're going to do this. Yeah it's going to not feel good..
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"Begin that joke after everybody's there and from across the room i said stop said. You can't tell the joke right now. Once there was a student and when she was in sixth grade he was like showcased. You know kid ever. She would cry at every get together. He wouldn't get picked for like a game or like she get hurt and she's a senior now and we've found out like two years into it that she had liked this really sneaky sense of humor and that her parents must have like she was raised like she says things that like a forty year old would say things and things and seeing things like she'd always come on like i heard any jokes. Do you want to hear it. And now. Sorry no i probably yes i want to hear it but you should not tell me because you could just see in her eyes. She's like i'm going to say something borderline inappropriate because he figured out that. That was funny. I make you uncomfortable. And i'm like when you're an adult that we talk you. Can you could say inappropriate. Your stand up comedy in the church. These double standards that we have. Well they speaking of appropriateness into the church pastor appreciation month and We thought we would spend some time talking about another article. That kind of leads our conversation about why Pastors already quit. So this is this will serve as all of our resignations today saying now i can't afford Before we get to that though there's actually now they're chunk of another article that i think that's very well basically talking about how they're predicting that. The church experts are predicting the twenty twenty. One is going to be the year of turnover for pastors. And it's october so yeah basically where to go. There's a quote from thomas rainer in here. Which if you know anything about thomas. Rayner does church health in in different things like that. He says the vast majority of pastors with whom our team communicates are saying that they are considering quitting their churches. And it's a trend that they have not seen at least in his lifetime so that just all kind of goes to show basically kind of more where this other article comes out of those other articles written Much earlier but yeah basically. It's not a great year for most pastors for various reasons but some of those being that pastors are weary from the pandemic. Just like everybody else and that they're not superhumans and they're normal. People don't miss the routines and they miss doing the things that they used to do. Just like everybody else. But why do you guys think that is harder. I guess for pastors at times. If that makes sense it's been really easy for me has it. Yeah i've enjoyed if you've been listening to the podcast. It's been a walk in the park. Well i think it's harder because.
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"The lobby told him something he should tell his son. He mmediately picks up his phone. And i hear him saying what i said. That's funny. I walk away and he texted me. That's funny replied. Ll which was really funny. I didn't know that i still didn't really know that. Yeah nate says ucs consider buying a new clutch while you have it all open. No wonder he didn't respond to that. That's really want bow. Said something worse needs a jerk idiot guy quits to loser. I don't think is respond. We'll see if she were to go out. We're going to be like at the end. We'll okay companies. My wife's working. so why. why are you asking me this one of those songs that i didn't know what the lyrics were was that move. Get out the way. Oh you didn't. I didn't know that at all and i would say that. And she's like. What are you saying. That in lego move. Get out the way and there's a joke to be made that make it. I don't know anything about that. So people listening right now. Your pastors sometimes listen to unedited music and they do know they still but the beat so good. Yeah shouldn't listen. i love that. did we read. Acquire the fire one year. You weren't there where you this is early on. Never went with usual. Acquire the fire. It might've been there with another now. There's a guy that was from hudson. Maybe the wrote a book or did a video and it was not. It was all kind of not. Oh no i know exactly you're chalmers zahren. Okay well i think he was him. I i think it was him. That was I think that was acquire the fire and he was saying this would like this song. And that's like oh you guys whatever goes through this thing of black people say well listen listen to the song for the beat or music and that.
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"Be bagels cheeseburgers. The good bagels from thomas takers. We went over this english muffins. Yeah they make bagels. they're pretty good at both. Is it eagles or bagels. I definitely it's definitely bagels by say bagel bagels sigler bagels or the beach from the vacuoles bagel bagel video in mid west. Siri by the way that i saw that My sent it'd be coffee coffee. I'm surprised but that pretty much follows me around anyways point. Yeah well we won't talk about normally follows me would be when i prefer I i don't walk up music rocky. Either tiger i had been so no will be boy. They're all bad. They're all bad rap song. They're not bad. The part that i would want would just say play the clean version of m. x. Excellent give it to you. Here comes the boom. No it'd be the best like when we played football about like tunnel zones. There's about it. Yeah it's got this long intro and then it just kinda comes in like like perfect for football. I because it has so there. I'll go with that. I just ask him. What would be my walkup. Let's see what he says. That would be more fun. he's working holidays. My wife would be like what are you talking about. We got to explain what was funny story the rocky tires on one time the church at colleges is very conservative. very uptight. Church was using my like apple music account on the media computer to play like their pre service music and it jumped like next song down was rocky. I have tiger in my library so a sunday morning as the pre music between sunday school morning service through like the showroom speakers the hallway speakers everything starts playing and it was awesome. It was hilarious. It's like you've got to start off with shadowboxing go up. We have four steps up on stage. Like go up those stairs to the in philadelphia like your head bouncing back and forth shadow box. I think that'd be great and then you're like today will be religious. I asked my wife to 'cause she's pretty culture. When it comes to music and combat. I could like i'm gonna text it to my wife and we'll come back to later man. We'll see. how did the same thing. I'm gonna sit and i'm not gonna say walk museum and say like but it'd be the music you think i would want to have played walk to all right. Well samuel typing watch. watch my brother and My wife say the same song it would be really funny. Samuel said that my dj name should be mighty beard was his answer in charlotte said With thinking face. That's the song what she's she's she's thinking she's going through her library of songs in red. Dj thank you Back in hope it would be the voice of truth. Because that was my ringtone on my fancy football mine was redeemed. That's a good song by never had a custom ringtone. Big daddy weave wouldn't matter because you wouldn't answer it anyway. But at least i could hear something in a music.
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"Neither for best. Yeah this because i would always make reference to songs with certain people like adult leaders and they knew the and i didn't really know i knew you know the reference right but i know she's like she would say like almost like i like you're being battered weird but i mean like i had no idea what the reference was and i think i think she thought that i did. I think you always need to look up bleary before you were song all lyrics well like it doesn't matter okay. So if you were a dj okay what would your name be and what your entrance music be like. Fewer to like jerry is come on. I don't think i have a good one. I don't have a dj. you're highly. Does your brain automatically come up with an answer to these automatically like some positive your brain. Do you know how they give you the stream-of-consciousness consciousness where they like show you a picture. You gotta say what it is right so when you ask that question this is not my answer. Swear on everything. Holy we believe you have to because the first thing that came to my head was dj cheeseburger and my mind about why what would be the first one dj. Joe joe Tjp shot for dj. Mikey mike katie. Hd alexis coined the phrase pj p p. jp. Yeah i don't have one of those rev run the z. Yes he had the red. So i could be rev my music. I always wanted to walk up music for preaching not the final song of worship. I wanted to shift dug out like just like you're at the baseball game now hitting third. I'd be clean up power hitter. Yeah so. I don't even know the name that song but it's which one is it. Look it up real quick. Oh i should. This'll be fun. If i if i can break on copyright we would definitely break all kinds of plan which put yours. What is your probably appropriate off. I got to figure it out with the name. I can't even think. And i'm not going to try to sing on the podcast. I don't need to answer. Why try to figure it out if you you should send me a text or something. We love to play music on the podcast probably not rated music. I also don't know what my dj name would be cool. I'll come on nothing to do..
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"It's the greatest thing we've ever done. We have no training whatsoever. No chickens all the time. Joe is perfect. She's in my homeboy. We looked ridiculous pretty significantly sized person. May you wanna slurp us out the worst employee. That's why we're pastors mr pontiac. Well welcome in sue. the podcasts. The desperate pastor podcast just kinda weird trying to tell people like podcast. You say that they're like and then you've got to tell the story. A little bit edgy. Point to edgy. Wanted to cover. It's called click bait. Yeah join us for stay tuned today and we'll tell you how to make your money double three day. He's mad money guy. He's all jalen of the tv screen. I flip through it. I never watched. It is episode nine season two episode nine. Welcome into the conversation follow us on instagram and twitter and facebook and youtube and tick-tock still have yet to do a real talk at this point. We ever should say console eh just to go there has to be like. Hey still haven't done that. Tick talk the tic. Tac thing is not working out. I don't believe in it. By the way yeah tic tac. Yeah yeah. I tell you my story now. You.
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"People and just say so. You can send us money. Do you want jesus to returns support skin. Microphone so that people know. And when i hear. Those phone's ringing. It's tempting ring. Its mind i. I mean i'll never i mean i kind of thought that was done. You know that's like my child. Tbn yeah and and these. Benny in earnest like these fundraising calls. Von's and people just giving money like crazy you know. There's the just blows my mind people and then they won't. Those people probably worship at a local church. But they're they're giving the sowing seeds. You said you know what was the other guy out of columbus. Yeah rod parsley harvest world harvest and same thing. He'd be like for literally like tier of also cheers s. And he would be like you know one hundred fifty dollars. Yeah you can get this. Get that you'll get my new book and or something. Blessed by me like kleenex something crazy. Here's kenneth copeland bro. Quick he stand pulpit. Talk the very awkward church. Aumont just blew it away. No he blew it on every buyer. He blew it. I'm telling you it's hot down there. Like jesuit is avocado down. So he's glued. Africa hot couldn't tell what he said. There's a there's a remix. I haven't listened to him and make sure there's no there is an ad that's why i'm I learned. Because i don't. I don't pay for youtube like i don't know anybody else does anyway. I i've never listen to.
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"If you go to church and then you can you guys can go out. And of course. We didn't go out. And i found the lord so it's a great mission plan know right but no just as far as the story of faith. Been a believer since i would say fifteen sixteen always been around church. went to specific so went to a christian university because of the impact of the youth pastor and ended up in ohio. And yeah it's been. It's been a crazy adventure for me for the most part like i said being involved in worship being involved in a few different churches and really kinda focusing on smaller churches like i started the worship ministry and a very large church california. And it's not that. I had a you know bad bad experience but i've always found myself in a smaller if you will hundred so or less church and that's been my entire time administrator. Yeah i'm not sure these. He's always a hard hard question. Like your fake. You should always have that ready to go relation the elevator speech. Yeah we have dave who is vying for the significantly sized individual this because he he kind of says resembles every mark. Maybe or something. He's bigger than than nate's brother and so we're actually you guys faced off at the donut thing. We did we did. There was a like on a discovery channel thing where you see the battle for source racks and he has been watching a lot of jurassic park. Yes but dave Came to our church a year ago is number your september. Yeah so it's not been even a year now. Seems like testing. Seem like a couple of years really but Data drummer so. He's known as the drummer or at least around parts around every part. Okay we see the videos of you. So yeah what's your story came from jersey came from jersey but i was Worked with a guy who used to give me the little tracks. Okay and i was purebred. Catholics and i was like no but read them as i remembered. The my favorite was won't call you goofed and greet a loved it. So you like our episode and we talked about tracks did you. Did you talked about tracks. And i was like. Hey i like those groups and then linda. My wife gave me a copy of left behind. Okay read it. And i thought it was great and then i got mad. Thought she was poisoning me with christian propaganda and we fast forward past that By lived staten island apartment. There was a church across the street which it turns out one of her coworkers. From here's family started by now. They have a church here. So i started going there and it was strictly king james. Okay no drums team. Yeah i moved out. Ohio three years ago and we're looking for a church and linda found you talk and she goes watch this guy and i'm watching. I said there's no drummer there. That's the truth. Came out the next week and you know fortunately larry was kind enough to ask me to come back and play if i wanted to. And that's out of every show i've ever played in my life..
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"Right now. What at that point things. I don't know it's has seen the other one movies. Yes definitely we. Were just talking about that in our staff meeting of this the references that because i think probably because of his age he doesn't get are similar age Yeah twenty five but what movies you seen that we were already time. -cation 'cause you raiders. Lost did not seem okay. I think i've seen that as a kid. But it doesn't mean. I remember the indiana jones. Yes yes he hasn't seen quote playing when i grow up. I sell those like the cool. Gosh that was cool. You know what's on the show. Tv at probably watched half a one. Man i mean. I grew up. You know it's really low budget movies. That were older than me that it's you know you can watch movies. That come from what is going on repairing stone right outside the window. You just said see. That's great okay. I'm not looking that way. Because i won't get back on track. I'm offended personally. I think you should give an hour and a half of your life to watch one of the greatest whereas all the melt off is priceless. It's about the ark of the covenant. You're a christian. Pastor shot to watch it factual history. Then you watch that then the ten commandments than what was the other one with the roles and watch the was. The last crusade was another indiana jones. Go find the cup. Thank you see. He's younger than you. But he's sandown. Sounds like whoever it is is not very productive guy. he's got it lonely journeys to figure out. Whatever he's got figure out indiana you'd be lucky lucky to live his life. He's a brilliant archaeologist. Haven't seen christmas vacation. Well your your whole family. If i'm done and i'm sure our congregations care. Yeah i know are they probably would feel differently. I never even heard of christmas vacation. Until i started listening to the podcast. What is that. So i looked it up and do you thing in your family christmas. You guys like we read about. Jesus settled selling reading for like an hour in the morning. It'd be like sitting there waiting before after presence. Of course the four year down the steps. Oh we'd all you had to bring your bible down to with all return to the age and everything. We all sat there and it was like an hour long reading. It felt like an hour translation. Always james i figured i decided to ask is christmas like a. Ptsd can do you do that. Now do you read your cats in the cat reading room gather again. They don't they don't read their bibles jerks. Nobody you actually be that. Do you read the bible at your house. Sharma for christmas yeah No not for christmas right now. We don't even really celebrate christmas at our house like we go. Yeah i was gonna say else's house go to everyone so your all your house. No i don't either. We probably with have kids too so we probably will this year but like last year you get this car so she has no idea what's happening right now. She would she would understand. Okay might be different. I'm just wondering we always read the like the like account. And i would like okay. Get done. I want to open that. You see a church last night that we get it. We stayed up past midnight that counts. It was church today. Do you don't do that. We don't know midnight seven not crazy crazy. We still people are like but we have stuff to do so we have very poor attendance. That's not what we're talking about. But we're kind of doing a brain dump because a while one of things. We want to talk about his church experience because all of us are in the thick of it into the thick of it into the thick of it but sam sam has had some experiences checking out. Churches like we. Don't we've been in it long enough. Were like we don't remember what it was quite like. There are times like on vacation. You show up at a church in this awkward or that's a really great idea but you're coming out of lake. We're looking for a church in a state not to be mentioned. And you've had some experiences. Nate of nate wants to set up. Anything that you thought that was funny or interesting or worthwhile to help us as pastors leaders to hear from the other the other side. I felt like all the time like salmon. I would talk and he'd always be like. Oh i got a story for you. We checked out a new church and Gathered from it was going to go to like any church. that's larger. That's not weird you you would struggle to be connected or be noticed or seen and then church that was smaller was just. It was an experience. I don't know any interesting experiences. there's there's quite a there was quite a bit of. We visited quite a bit of churches. How many churches at least their teen do big of an area thirty minutes. Twenty five to thirty minutes around like there's a lot of churches over there so that's wild when we found one the the preaching was really good. I did like the preaching abbas about the only thing i liked but the guy no no the preacher was real funny. he kept. He kept everyone interested in everything and but nobody talked to us. Yeah we were going there for quite a while and nobody talked. Was it a bigger church. Bigger yeah bigger. We got to define that ballpark. It but i mean you know people that's different minds. Three hundred fifty three hundred some. Maybe even more is what i've learned. Is that most churches in america over. Almost half are about one hundred or less right now now. This is about two to three hundred. So what are you looking for as a twenty something twenty one. I'll be twenty one category up in the church. Yes definitely whether you liked it or not grew up with the church. What are you looking for when you walk through the doors. What gets you excited about church. What is like a huge turnoff on. Yeah no i like whatever friendly to as we did nice got to church in the guy literally talk to us and.