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#174 - Papa John

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#174 - Papa John

"You to welcome everybody to Truly Papa. Blessed episode of the extra podcast. We are joined today by perhaps perhaps the most iconic figure in the ACH for universe. Eight years in the making none other than Papa. John Himself and the studio welcome and thank you. Well thank you thank you so I mean I'm a I'm frankly I can't believe I'm sitting certain across from me right now. The field is mutual. So you had mentioned to me that you you had thought of reaching out to me but pop the Papa John Corey directors corporate. We're not we're not savvy. I've been wanting to talk with you for eight years. You're hard to get hold of frankly but I don't know but I think they're just a little more conservative. I've always thought this would be a lot of fun. I hope I was right. Coming into you'd be it's GonNa be it's GonNa be a great it's going to be a journey Well now that you're you're no longer beholden hold into corporate. So are you in a way. Is this a big middle finger to them. Now that we're doing this No not at all. I'm probably Papa. John's the biggest fan. I'm a even now. I Love Pizza and I love people and the people at Papa. John's they're the ones that made the company great. You know you you bill. Five thousand stores out a broom closet and you got to do that with great people but no franchisees. I love them ploys. I Love Them. And I'm their the biggest fans. We love the Franchisees. We hate the board of directors right but the words in your mouth. I mean I'll I I won't put the words in your mouth but I'll say it for all here. Those sons of bitches are they but they gotta be scared that you're on here now. I mean you got documents with Pizza Pie. Literally Literally Pie Charts charm with a pie Here's the right word. I you know we. We felt like the some decisions be made the last couple of years. We're not exactly in the best interests of the system There's nothing that's happened with Papa. John's last twenty. You're thirty months. That wasn't predictable. And it's not been good Would they be in said. They're struggling and We're hoping that things get it better. And they'll pull themselves out of this mess. Do you WANNA go back. Do you want to be the CEO on the directors. No I don't want to be. CEO You back on the board. No No oh Let's let it run. Its course that you would have. Let's see what's going to happen. I mean so far it's not been good The thing that scares me the most is. There's there's nobody on the board or really in a leadership that has any pizza experience. The pizza category there no experience and a very very dangerous dangerous Everybody wants to do pizza. Everybody thinks they want to be in the pizza business. But it's a it's a really a a different Animal I mean. It's it's tough I mean it's we really got to know the business when you say they're dangerous you do mean that they're what you mean by that. Well you know when you make good decisions. Good things happen and You know people prosper when you make bad decisions bad things happen and the last twenty four months for me to sit. Sit back and watch what's happened to the Franchisees and watch happened. The the employee's I got a call Friday. We had a young lady Robin Kennedy Been With the company twenty five years boo just out the door. Two weeks ago. five days before Christmas. Give or take a rob porter been with the company. Twenty eight years boom out the door notice so when you're trying to build a culture because we're really not in the pizza business work more in the people business so when you're trying to build a culture that really promotes creativity and ownership In Pride And you do things like that. It kind of runs counter productive There's so much ground to talk to cover. We've got the pizza conspiracy. We've got got the media company that apparently extorted you and the company But let me start from the top do do I call you papa. What do people call you papa? What about your friends and family do they call you? Papa yes everyone calls you papa. Yes and so when you. When did you become papa? That was interesting because we started doing the ads. About the turn of the century. Some twenty years ago and The shirt tucked in in suit and tie and all that but People thought I was an actor. And right yeah they didn't really person and so we the Jordan Zimmermann with the Z.. Grew came up with Papas in the House with put an office in the house. The boots all of that and then Then it became came Papa. John's and then became a papa and then about four or five years ago. I actually had to change by name from John Schneider. which his German to Papa John So we actually change the name? Oh you are popular on its late on your like. Id or what do you mean it's just changed on the perception and the persona of the brand because nobody else Snyder John. John is just stayed alias on on. No I am John Your Papa. John's yeah that's where they came up with the name. John Remain College Ball State University. He knew my name. Is Johnny Chemo. Building Papa up hop okay. I promised him a pizza week for the rest of his life that to get it. He never came forward now. How can you be fifth? Laurel followed nine hundred. Eighty two you come up with the name Papa. John when there was no stores we build fifty two hundred stores and he still has count bar to claim that pizza. And if you're out there our the pizza week for the rest of his life so take ten bucks a week okay. That's father bucks a year times thirty. Five years is seventeen. Thousand five hundred dollars worth of pizza so thank you. I think you may be assuming that someone wants to eat them. Well if you come forward I give them cash or the cat gave him the cash. Yeah so you called you pop up before you even had kids yet. Nothing to do with anything. We had the recipes we had the layout. We had had the equipment we had everything but a name. And he's a door mate Fifth Floor of the folic and comes up with it and he puts it Papa. John Imprint and We were print driven business back in those days. Because it was all coupons and I fell over the name Papa. John's and and so were you. Did you go by pop ever since you open your first store like let me ask you this. You know you're recently divorced. You were married for a long time yell. How many years were you married thirty two and at what was she calling you? Papa never call me because John Yeah she the judge is she never calls you papa. The I had a boat One time that wouldn't be those like in one thousand nine hundred. That are called Papa. That's earliest I can remember the phrase Papa Papa that makes sense you are the Papa. Yeah your employees. Call Papa. Yeah they always think to start maybe a second business Mama yes the play with all those kind of different. Mom Janis Janis. That's very interesting. So I'll call you papa. You ever get any kickback back. Does it disrespectful to call you John. No no you're okay being called John Yes okay not sure. 'cause you prefer Papa oppa though. This is what they call the harder. It's like the one name anomaly like mono or right edged the edge in kid rock rock right. That's not his name the it's not as though they get rid of the Snyder. That's hard isn't a role for that. Took me years to even I used to call you. Schneider Schnatter Papa John Papa John Yeah so I understand you are going through a divorce or are you okay. How's our health? Everything was that a long time ago. was that recent Four months wow that is it as bad as they say it is. She's a wonderful person. But I I mean just you know I think it's it's both of us. Wanted it all mama and so it I think it's been best for both of us. are you feeling relieved. Are you feeling like well. Okay are you dating. It's pop out there like you've been you're single peden the money you're healthy you look good. You're good shape slowly but surely not. Let's get out of there so I would weird. I would say that either. I wonder if there's any like if girls might be into like role playing with the where they like. Paupers Call Me Daddy. Comic Bomba newly interesting thing. Would you want someone that his Let's say in the pizza. Category sounds sounds really outside of the word. I don't know if you really can pick. I think if you just look for certain attributes you know. I don't think that'll that'll work. I think it'll have to happen or do you meet women but don't you don't if you're making tough. Yeah it's real tough. Do you do social events. Do you go out. I like to go to bed early in wake up early. So does your grand your CEO. You built this incredible company are you. You must be having trouble meeting women. You've been on tinder what they would kill me. If I did something like that. That would be suicidal. GotTa say you up with the nice girl pop I'm fine. I'll take it from here. Something all right. Yeah I know we do this Area the bachelor on our show. You're quite a eligible bachelor. It'd be a hell of a season. I assume you're not interested. I gotTa tell you. I didn't know we were talking about this. But it's interesting but I'll take the dating from here okay. I don't blame you. You have an age limit. Now that you're single age-limit with with the women would you data. What your what your age cutoff? Now that you're single. I've never thought of that. Because you know a Lotta guys. Let's just say you know and I don't blame them. They're out there. They're single you're wealthy. You're looking good. You Get up there and get some strange asks but some guys say I'm Gonna I'm GonNa cut it off at I don't know why thirty thirty five I don't know. What do you have a cutoff? Have you thought about that. I think he could beat somebody. That's probably forty five or fifty that acts and is active enough to be like thirty. Sure you could and you could probably me. Somebody's thirty or thirty five and act like they're forty five or fifty. I think it depends on the on the person. I think that's true. That's a good answer. Papa Suv answer. I know if I know if my dad left my mom he would probably dated eighteen year old and I just know it. He's a pig. And I love my dad. Wow now I love my dad. Do you think it runs in the family. I Don I try my best. I gotTa tell you I grew up with a very a perverted dad. And I've tried my best to subvert those feelings but if he if he if he was you and single give he'd be kitten weird while so but I have a feeling you're you're a good but he's not he's not still wearing your a month. That's true thank you. My Dad appreciates you say you're from live in Kentucky. Are you like a local celebrity out there and Kentucky Gay people got to know like a papa you get shots like that you can Louisville's probably where I get left alone the most because it's not a big deal. Uh they just look at John. The pizza maker downloads making pizza and Donna community leader in a good corporate citizen. I don't really think Louisville probably get left alone more than Anywhere else in the world baby when you walk around like New York or La. I don't know how often you do. You probably get recognized a lot. You gotTa face on on the pizza box used to yeah I mean scene Latin America very fancy Latin America like China's. I'm as well be on Mars. Oh Yeah Yeah L.. A. New York a little less. But but it's actually gotten more the last the last five or ten years In the Mid West you know where Papa John's Israeli rock-solid for sure you're you're a superstar tair products. They go into the pizza. The Pizza Guy give him a ten dollar of car. Take a picture and they walk around with Gift Cards. Oh yeah that's crowd-pleaser Sir you gotTa love that and it's it's really cool because you've got one for me. I get your pizza. Don't tell corporate is the the tree of the biggest house in Kentucky. I read that online. I don't know if it's the biggest. It's probably one of the biggest one of the biggest I love my my home. Kentucky has been good the Papa pieces the whole the whole thing's been a blessing. I've got so many people to be thankful for That you know supported me and gave me the A lot encouragement early on When I didn't have anything I can't tell you I mean times? I thought we were going to go. Broke and people just really were there in my corner and so But it's it's been a great ride with a group of folks the original Employee number one still works for me with me. What position are they? Well well she. Denise Robinson was a She was a cook and daddy harder as a cook for seven bucks a day and so we got cook because dead. Now we're kind of you know jack-of-all-trades master of none and it's a great and he goes one problem I said what did he said well but she can't cook she can't cook. This is back when we didn't have seven bucks a day to blow But she had a great attitude and they had taught me early. Liane hire for attitude and train Train for aptitude. That's true she's done she's been with us and she's great you what you do thirty six years. He does whatever she wants. Yeah she's so. Does she have your back now. And this is still got your allies O.. M. Pompous House. Yeah Yeah not all not all. It's it's been great. I mean it really has been. It's to go through this is it's it's a fascinating experience it's a learning experience And it's it's it's educational. I just wish it wasn't me. You know I just his wish want me going through it but You know we had a very comfortable life. Company was making a hundred and fifty million bucks a year with thirty one percent of it No debt Great Pizza Great Product Great Ingredients Great. Great everything and and so it's true you know and then this this come about it Let's let's let's talk okay. You didn't interview. Let's start here in November in which who famously claimed you've eaten over forty pizza and thirty days now first of all that went sensational viral. What was your reaction shirow that well I didn't say at Eton forty pizzas and thirty days? I said I had already pizzas. Well well well hold on. We're going to split here it when I said I had a pizza that means I ate it when I said had pizza means inspecting and so I'm I'm I'm not eating pizza. Maybe eating parts of pizzas. How many pizzas you on a weekly basis? I probably eight or nine slices a a week. But when I was a papa. John's probably Twelve or fifteen because we're always tested new products that's awesome. Yeah you exercise a lot. Yeah Good Yeah Ski. That's wrong won't work but you know pizzas. Actually the very nutritious very healthy. Just can't eat a bunch of that. Sounds like pizza propaganda well. It's three hundred and twenty-five cowers a slice three hundred. He's like Oh yeah. He wanted to slice golden. You eat meat slices and garlic butter golden like myself. Who wondered the garlic? You know what. Let's let's stick to the ethics You got on instagram. That's how we got in touch. What prompted you make instagram account? What were you feeling the viral sensation of the Papa Papa Comeback Papa Redemption Ark? Yeah I think again. The the board and Leadership leadership is probably leans to be a little more conservative and the the social media platforms. I think scared them. And so they kind of kept me away from that. That avenue and and We hardly knew. Pr Firm PROACTIVE UP IN DC Mark Sharon on his team and They are Matthew and Jordan out of Indianapolis and they said you know give it a try and I said I'll try it but if it turns negative and it's it's nasty I don't want to do with it but you know it's been great right. It's been doing it months. It's been cool. Yeah some else. Well you know what happened. Someone sent us a tip to like I think this is Papa. John's real instagram. And we're like there's no way we don't believe it. We've we've always looked for you on twitter whereas instagram will turn into a whole story arc for us where we slowly realize it was your actually your your account. So what does it look like when you say that. They didn't want you to have an instagram account. Let's say like is it an actual conversation. I'm meeting where you meet with a team. I'm and they all have an input on what they think you should do. Well the our generation didn't grow up with the social media and understand in nineteen ninety-five which would have been what twenty five years ago We didn't have computers in the store. We were operating now to our boxes with Delhi sheets so we had to to go through the wave of technology just peel s and then the internet came along and we had you know dot com right exactly remember the video well announcing that we did really well on the P. O. S. in that transition and we were first to the market on the Internet so we did well but then the social media came along and I don't think anybody in the building At you know at our Age Demographics stood it right so by not understanding and and I think we kind of freight away from it but the it's a risk reward it is and we'll come on the show today. There's there's upside down so you I know but anything that's going to have a risk. That's the Papa I know that's true. Yeah I'm so glad you're here because to me. I very brave of you to come in here with us but I do think that it is just so incredible for you to have the courage to come in here and talk to us in this format. that I think most people in your situation and under the advice of all the their handlers would would would just totally shy away but this is the most genuine way for for you to get your message out and so I think that That this is a great step for Papa. Yeah but in all sincerity. The you've been a papa John's Fan. Oh Yeah and You get your wife here. Oh And I just felt somewhat safe I mean I know there's going to be parts arts interview that like the segment. We just left where I didn't know he was going to go there. But I knew that coming in and that will get worse. Oh here we go. Let's move. Let's move uh-huh so now you're making it sound like it's not that bad with you and the Papa John Corporate. They remove the mention of you on their website. Look here on the television about us. They act like you didn't even exist. They go there first of all. They're make rewriting history. The Same Papa stands for people are priority always you. You've seen this. And then they say they go. It was founded in a broom. Closet and Jeffersonville no mention of you. Well let's that's misleading that. It says it's the foundation we started and there wasn't news we feel bad. I mean this is your baby. This is your life's Work Papa. The rewrite they can take one of give you the credit of having your own name. Well not too correct but Papa always has meant people are always we've always he's realized from the get-go that you have to take care of your people first that's always been your. That's that's been so that's some lady and that's how it's not bad but the name that they don't mention that that WHO's broom closet closet that belong to well they have taken the position that I'd never existed yet And they have research says half the people out there associate associate me with the brand or that I am very in the half not five percent or ten percent so I don't know we've Kinda studied what corporates done It has worked worked out too. Well this is what I call a lose lose lose lose and one of my fundamental principles and businesses. Everybody has to win suppliers. Hi It's Franchisees. Employees communities have to win and this has been a lose lose lose lose But I don't know how you pretend like the founder it didn't exist when he's alive and well he's right here and He's up he's and it's authentic is the truth we we did this the hard way we we did this the long way and we build at one store to tie up to five thousand stores out of a broom closet. I'm not sure how you erase that. And if you do erase it I think you do rub part of the population the wrong way exactly clan so. The the cooperation is put themselves in a position that their conflict czar decision making. But I wouldn't call it corporate geniuses or preaching you would call corporate idiots. I gotta I gotTa Call Corp Genius. You got It seems that they they must have made a calculated decision that they thought cutting you you out after. All the controversies would have helped the company on decline. That's what I assume was there was there logic but I not stupid to be well. That's that's where we there's a fundamental disconnect between my beliefs and I think the corporate geniuses I think I don't think you can fool people maybe once twice but I think people are smart the fact that the Corp Geniuses think they can fool people now. That's that's what I even people that are like disagree with your like. By the controversies. They know the puppet. It's still God Papa. John's uh-huh and then everyone who's one writer Dai Papa. John's is pissed. It's bad what do you think about the Padilla. I mean what were you involved in this No would you ever a green light such a such a bomb nation of God. They obviously have research that. I don't have Yeah it is research you I like street. smarts got Well let's play it out papa. John's pizza no no no no papa. John's pizza case. No no no no papa. John's Pizza Casetta Papa. Dear No Papa. John's pizza case. A DEAL PAPA DEA lousy cal zone have this. Yeah that's what I said I said why don't you just cows zone making it. Sound like is not a case of that interesting tried it yes what anything go ahead speak the truth. I mean it's it's a nice side item being night. You're being nice here here. I can tell gloves off with you. Know close off with corporate. You're being you're being nice Here's my problem I've got I've got franchisees is out there that I love and I can't I can't say negative. I would not have put all my eggs in that basket. That's for sure. The Padilla Papa Papa Dea edit say all right well then. Let's talk about the people that like you claimed in your now famous interview that There was a conspiracy conspiracy to out you. As the board of directors that it was completely fabricated. What was recounted of your racist language on the phone call and you've claimed that those who perpetrated this conspiracy against you should be in jail do you? So do you still stand by the statement. Let's go the you know as a shareholder You really can't put a board of directors in jail. Now you can take their homes if they violated the duty of loyalty and duty care which they have uh-huh multiple cases the we'll we'll see how that plays out in the courts of but you can't really as a shoulder put them in jail Okay well well anyway I I understand. You're just you're just speaking. At A. At a matter of speech but the conspiracy the fabrication these are people at the highest level of the company who have conspired to ruin your life in short right Do you agree with that statement. I do agree with this statement and so the is is this the day of reckoning you spoke about the day well if you're a Franchisee or employees that we just talked about two of them twenty years ago five years. God bless me yeah. That's a day of reckoning. When you lose as you know your career job Franchisees I mean they are very painful for me to watch We had You've seen the the trajectory on sales and profit and now you've seen it crash. Oh yeah that's very hard for me to sit back with my hands tied no matter how much money I spend under. How would I tried to do to help them? I my hands are tied. You know I'm no longer run on the ship. It's hard to watch this because when you built the machine uh-huh and you have people around you that help build machine you know calls effect you know. Trial and error. And you and you watch some of the things that are going on with people that have never been in the business and watch people get hurt. I mean hurt bad That's that sleepless nights and there's a lot of those. Yeah you referred to a day of reckoning for the board of directors what what did we mean. What does the wreck? What is the reckoning? I heard I heard rumors that the phone call the notorious phone call for example you got a copy of that. Is that true. Yes what question you want me to answer I so do you have the recording. Yes does it exonerate you. Yes yes oh yeah can we hear it. I don't know if you can hear it. I can tell you what it says again. You need to look what what happened. Tell me about that conversation the The when this went down on the eleventh The company more myself Didn't have the tape. Laundry Service had the tape. The company got the tape within ten days. The call but they wouldn't let me hear the call the tape until the next year February of Nineteen. So so I was pretty sure what I said and I know my heart. I know how I feel about this issue. I wasn't real worried about what I'd said because I wouldn't say anything saying that was going to put any of us in jeopardy What I said was I never used the word But you use the work. I said Colonel Sanders. Use The word dig. You use the N.. Word I said Colonel Sanders use the N.. Word and I'd never used that word yet but the word I said the word yet you I said I said what what what into the word. Yes what a little in a confidential meeting with the AD agency. That was supposed to be. Set Me Up to protect this very thing so the meeting was to make sure something like this doesn't happen. So they should have said to well Papa. You shouldn't even when you're referring to the word you shouldn't say the word but what they did as I understand is they recorded this call that was meant to be for racial sensitivity training cry and and leaked it is a little worse than that. They they see pardon me who leaked it like how did it get out. We don't know that's what we found the lawsuit we launch laundry service than their response. said they didn't leak it but Forbes got the data for somewhere son-in-law if they got it from Papa Johns I don't know if they got it from an executive Papa. John's we're not sure what was on that call. We'll we'll like I guess someone on the call was recording. Yes we didn't know the court the recall being recorded. That's the bad news. It was secretly a recorded. The good news is they record the call you know because what I said was not as anything. You anti-racist you I understand you said you use the N.. Word but you used it in the context of explaining that you're not racist well although it can you see that some people would be offended that you would use the word at all I for I've gotten into the very issue myself and And I I can see where they're coming from in that That When you even when you use the N.? Word in the context of saying oh I would never say that but you said it you did say it when you were saying I would never say the thing about the call. The call was like fifty minutes. Fifty fifty in the call was extremely positive about the opposition. The history how was brought up on you know anti race period period There's no tolerance for it in my family and in the upbringing and the it finally came up again at the NS. Listen so and so uses the word I never used the wordless cordless kit off the word They recorded it. There was trying to set you up. They kept trying to get you to say the word. Yeah I think I just think I do. I think they were trying to educate me. uh-huh yeah what did they say agitator they just keep pushing and pushing The count bringing up the comments that were made back in November on the NFL. All Conference call which there's nothing in that call that's even Even sort of provocative The franchisees ahead of Franchisee Association. Tell you that noculars. It was benign yet. They stirred that up in somehow painted and into the the race corner and the company didn't do anything to defend that or to straighten it out. Talk to point out that it was mischaracterized So that was kind of the first clue that the you know like. Hey they're going to go down this road you gotTa make make sure we have a plan in place to prevent this from getting the getting out of hand by being not truthful. And that's what happened. So did you have when you were on this call. It sounds sounds like you now. Perceive to be the intention of that call was to incriminate. You not to train you. Well if you if you look at how do you at the time. I had thirty one percent of the company. How how'd you aalst the founder Papa? John from his own company. And there's really no way to get that done Except paint me in the race corner and what the company learned with the Obamacare in the NFL. Comments is if they did nothing. Social Media in itself would take me into that spot which was a very bad spot and it just gave him an excuse to To get rid of me but why would they want to get rid of you because now that you're gone. Nobody I mean clearly nobody Eddie could anybody have benefited now at this point from you being gone no nobody has benefited back to. It's a lose lose lose and I think until this gets is clarified in the Public Digest. Really what happened. I think it's going to have consequences on on Papa. John's villas health. But let me finish the the company. When you're good at something you make it look easy and we just had a really good team and we've been doing this for thirty five years kind of like doing in what you all do? You just know what you're doing and you're good at it We had a board and leadership. The thought. Okay we can run a lot better without John and You know it's It's intoxicating I mean. Hundred Fifty Million Bucks Year Papa. Johns Hella panel to building all that it's intoxicating and Power Control ingred. Greed is alive and well in corporate America so their mindset was. Let's get rid of John. Deere pointless pretend like it never existed. Let's take his take the the company over They had a bunch of self interest each individual head different self interest With different characteristics of taking the business over and We'll just take it over. And then life will be be without him so you think it was a conspiracy by the entire board of directors. I don't exactly know right. We've tried twice We had lawsuits. Call them to twenty basically. It's a lawsuit to get the documents company hasn't given us any documents What kind of documents would you want? Their emails like disappeared with their tax. We won that ruling you did. We did win that. So how does the court enforce it when they refitted. It has not been enforced. in the chancellor's a a chancellor Kohl Bouchard And he's the guy wouldn't want to mess with frankly and for him to rule in our favor to get those documents and yet the board has handed over no documents. I wouldn't want to be in the board seat and then we filed a second lawsuit with laundry service. And that's simply go. Get to the bottom of get to the truth. The Day of reckoning reckoning as you say what happened here did they do this and I think what you're gonNA find is the at different levels there was a different agendas in different goals. the folks at corporate had one goal. Keep their jobs Get John's money. You know. Be The seat in the board. Had another goal. They wanted to be chairman. We had one board member had a conflict he took over the marketing etc etc.. And then you've got laundry service which Washerman and Goodell And they had another agenda which is probably the. Shut me up and to take the company. You're Julius Caesar's you're the pizza. And what was the name of your Had Richie Richie was was bruce. WAS THAT A. Is that a good analogy. Did He. Stab you in the back. That's probably the best analogy. I've heard no doubt about it. Wow Oh wow yeah no doubt about it. It's that was painful. I mean Stephen Than with the company. Twenty years hired him at six bucks are last year made six million dollars now and then he pulls a stunt like this but You know that's something he's GonNa have to live with and you haven't spoken to him at all. No Good Eh. What would you say if you song? Oh Gosh what would I say to him I don't think I'd have to say anything. I think I would. Just he knows was how disability. Look at him he he knows how disappointing them. Any many knows how disappointed he is with himself. He let Steve Rails Bad I. I don't know but this guy heard a lot of people we mentioned too but literally thousands of people have gotten hurt by Steve Ritchie's selfishness and and Ambition and disregard for the team in other people. But the guys heard a lot of people so much Intrigue to unravel there's so much interest that play trail which out of yeah portrayals must be costing and you're at the center of it it's very shakespearian variant. You feel like you're in the middle of the Shakespearean play you know betrayals and interesting On that scale that makes its Like I said it's fascinating It's an education. I just wish you had me. Do you ever wonder why you I mean. What did you do to to incite such betrayal? I mean do do you find yourself wondering how maybe What like how could this happen? I mean what do you think about that. Well you know Papa. John's is the American dream. And when you look at power control greed and the You have that in states The the failure is in some ways easier than success. Because you know everybody wants a piece of success in Papa. John's was the pinnacle you you know. Papa John's Pizza American Dream Third Vaile pizza chain in the world. Yeah and I think that makes things more tempting for people to intoxicated again and to do silly thanks But but the answer question. I thought this could happen. And I prepared for physically intellectually nationalistically. Where you have to be to go through what you've gone through the last twenty months you better be on your game? You better be rock-solid because because you know it's you're taking a lot of you're taking a lot of shots and so you gotta you gotTa Take Care of yourself. You take a look healthy you in therapy. No it probably should be but it'd be Are you are you embarrassed to to talk to a therapist. No No. I've talked to their four. They get the. I think you need a good therapist. You know in times like this and you've got a good dog with you who I just met. Yeah that's but I knew knew this could happen. I thought this was. How long were you suspecting you feel it? If you're if you're not burner you feel you sense things you since the iceberg her in front of you lou miles of miles before everybody else does so I knew this but I thought it would come from the outside in thought it'd be a hostile takeover over somebody you know coming in and doing something crazy. I didn't know it would be from inside the people inside were capable of doing something like Tissa to pay. What really and here's why people always act in their best interests and this the way they've gone about this Like John don't like John The way they've gone about. This has hurt a lot of people. it's hurt. My Employees Turbine Franchisees. The pliers this has been a win for anybody and and I knew if they did something like this would this would be bad for them. Because it's stupid this really stupid. I mean you see the if you're going to get rid of the founder. Do it over a period of time. Don't take him mm-hmm you know outside kicking to the street in one day over something. He didn't say I mean they manufactured this and then they did. That did what they did but I didn't realize that they worked intelligent enough to realize that by doing what they were doing. They were actually hurting everybody else. I missed that piece Let me go back to the to the I'm just so intrigued by the phone. Call 'cause when we go back to the phone call on that fateful day. Everything happened so fast Asrat like I read that on the same day that the phone is was it the same day. The phone call happened that you were removed from the from the board of directors. Know the how much time cast the phone call happened on. May the twenty second Richie fired the agency. Laundry Service on the media side the next day and I went. What are you doing? I mean because they're gonNA think I fired him. They had a tough conversation with the CEO CEO of Laundry service that Friday and then two weeks later the Order Casey Washerman of laundry service called said. If you don't give a six million dollars we're going to bear your founder. 'cause we tape the call. So wow so they tried to extort the Money Papa Papa. John's didn't give in to that demand. And then since Papa. John's didn't give the guy the six million. They went public with it on July. The eleventh so couple a couple things are first of all there was a a pretty good time distance Jill Between the May call May the twenty third in July eleventh and second of all Papa. John's board or management didn't do anything to make sure that the founder and the brand spokesman were protected back Papa. John's did just the opposite when the when the when all this hit Forbes Papa. John's Powell on instead of defending. Why did Richie fire the media? Accompany the day after the call I think again. He used me as an escape goat to say well. The reason we've argest Johnson once you row. which is I had nothing nothing to do with that but it was he privy to? What was on the call? He was on the call a he was on the call so was was their outrage expressed where people offended on the call. Go go after the call there was all gravy. So why would he have the presence of mind to fire them the next day. I just don't understand what was his justification. BMI It had nothing to do with the call when he fired them Or dead the. I think the folks in marketing realize that laundry service was was the rat wrong firm to by the media in. So Richie is Kinda us as an excuse to do something he should have done anyway. Okay so I can speculate. It was unrelated into the call. I would be speculating. Okay Yeah Yeah. So he fires them and then and then how much time passed ask before they can blackmail the company the week or two. That's when they demanded the six Casey Wasserman Blizzard on the phone. If he didn't get a six man you know with a name like laundry service you guys could have been more skeptical. Sounds like they're laundering. Money Sounds Shady to begin the laundry service. But I'm assuming this is a big reputable media company. What does it mean to buy media? Okay in marketing. There's at least two disciplines with social media. Maybe a third one. Is You actually create the the ads creative and shoot the as the second. Is You have the money to run the ADS. The creative is baby. A six seven million dollar a year account. The media buys maybe eighty or ninety million dollar a year account. And they're all going through them. Yes so they were they were. There's a lot of money going through them. They there was a lot at stake By firing them they were losing a lot of money. Yes a little bit worse than that because laundry service had hired a lot of people thinking they were going to get the media side of the business. That's my understanding. Oh so they had invest heavily Papa. John's and then when they were fired you'd think it provoked them because they will put them in a very rough position. I don't I know a lot about this because I wouldn't involve it. I do know that they were worse than provoked they were. They were very upset that they didn't they lost the media and so then they come A week later and say pay a six million bucks which I'm just GonNa assume as what they spent preparing or something maybe and there if I'm just trying China just thought further actions like yeah. We spent six million dollars in Papa John and you pulled the plug on us so pay us the money or we're going to release this tape type of of the founder and instead of they so papa. John's doesn't pay now. Did you know that they were threatened. The company. Because you're on the board of directors at a time Richie was the CEO. So did you know that they were threatening. The company was public knowledge among the board. Yes Yeah Yeah we knew that. And were you scared I mean what was your responded. I didn't like the whole situation. Oh yeah because because I had a lot involvement with on service. I didn't like the fact that Ritchie had fired him the day after the call right I didn't like the fact. They tape the call. Aw Secretive and in fact when they told me that they want six million dollars or they're going to the founder they have a tape actually went thank God they got a tape the table able to protect me because what I said was not. That was a good tape for me because it was a very positive meeting was mainly. It doesn't matter because nobody's heard the tape and damage has been done well. NOPE laundry service doesn't want any. The damage has been done. Yeah Oh my God yeah Tape exonerates me. I mean you have the tape. I don't have the tape. You do not have tape hard. I've not heard the tape but I have people that represent me that have heard the tape. The tape helps me okay. I I wish that tape was made public because Papa John's and laundry service do not want tape probably because it's going to it's going to depict a whole different picture. Yeah what was depicted with Forbes in the media so how how was it reported I that laundry service came to you guys with this tape and said Pay a six million or we're going to release it. How did you first hear about that? Richie Richie talked you. He called you called me. I was just there. We went and yes in his office. See if not new caroline oiler the head the DC Legal Counsel New and then the board would have. You've done that. That Washington wanted six dollars or he was going to bury us now. We owed at the time we old laundry service between eight and a half and two and a half million so we did all of mm some money Another one that say six million was You know blackmail necessarily it was it was it was how how is it not so I mean extortion illegal. So how is it that you guys weren't able to press charges against them. Why would papa? John's put me in that situation. Why would they not call the FBI? Right now that you've got to call in Your founders on the line. They're paying him in a in a box at he Something he didn't say he's not and in same time time Once it comes public on a false narrative then they bury me farther so the question is will pop. Was Papa. John's on this yes was Ritchie and Shapiro Shapiro. Yes that's remember. I'm hammering on Goodell. I'm telling the the Goodell to get his act together. Those good delegate tells the Commissioner of the NFL. And I'm telling well Goodell is personal friends. Washington watch the kids and so forth because they do all the media buying for the NFL. You got me the hammer on Goodell. Get your act together about the kneeling. Kneeling I didn't say about the Neil. I just said to resolve this to the players owner satisfaction. He's friends with Washington. Men Wash minnows laundry service so all you're pissing a lot of people off a lot of people have I was busy Dell off your pissing powerful powerful people off Goodell for sure that they're not I think the fact that we were in four universities with free market and entrepreneurship That probably upset a few folks at On that side of the equation but I think Richie was GONNA lose his job. She did write currently wanted to be Chairman of the Board Shapiro. He wanted that forty fifty million year marketing. The we talked about Adele wanted me to go away and and Washington was pissed because he lost the media. Business I think you have a bunch of automotive a hurricane middle of abut in the look of the sediment at the time with the public you know you you have all these movements that are going on that are just fell right into it And instead of the company being there to help and protect the brand the spokesperson they kind of piled on. It's not able to call. FBI yourself we do we have called the FBI is looking at this. You got to have cooperation from from four corporate from laundry. That's why we've out lawsuit. The lawsuit will get a lot of discovery. A lot of the things of the directing. The truth will come out and ball suit. I'm fascinated by this first meeting with Richie when you sat down in there. What what did he say? I'm just I'm so interested by that when at the time you thought he was a friend. Yeah we'll we'll keep this pretty high level move quick on this but the meaning was supposed to be a meeting on the creative because they were put me back in the ads. They took me out of the as from from September October. Up until Dow. We're talking you know June July timeframe Maybe may but We we were GONNA go back in the ADS and so we went back the ads we wanted to make sure on a PR front. We were ready in case the race card came because of the kneeling controversy The meeting he was supposed to be on creative the other aspect of marketing so I walked in and thinking it was a creative meeting in the first thing they put down the sheet of paper. How many people were there five or six okay? Four members no not just Executive assistant was there. Ritchie was okay Guy Name Joseph Stein for laundry service and also he was there. Yeah doing there if he was threatening you wash them and remember. That's after two weeks after all right okay go ahead may the twenty original conference call not the not the threatening. That's okay so so. We got a meeting. On the May the twenty twenty-second. We think it's a marketing meeting. Okay and it turns into the for they put out a deck instead. The first question is are you a racist and I'm like well we'll we'll we'll where I l.. It's a setup. Go ahead no. I'm fascinated. They say are you. Are you a racist in and I looked around. I'm going what were this. I thought we were gonNA talk about creative and He said No. We're going to talk about You know Anything to do with race. NPR In this meeting because you're going to go To Chicago Sunday for some interviews and I said well who who else. How long have y'all known we were going to do this meeting? And they said well day and a half or two days I said well why didn't you give me the agenda. You're irritated from the TATER. Yeah because they they pulled a fast one from the get-go so they're just trying to agitate and agitate agitate. What other kind of questions on? Yeah I mean that's a hell of a way to start a. Are you a racist. Wow Yeah and how an and the call was for fifty minutes in its long fifty minutes and what other kind of questions you recall that. Masking upbringing house raised. You know it wasn't really sensitivity. There were prodding yes and did. Did you get a sense that there was something off about the meeting. I never got comfortable with the meeting but to the point where I was a little bit careful about my responses because I didn't I didn't feel good about it but In the comment at the end nobody thought anything of it. You know. Hey y'all gonna Knock Yourself Komo. Sanders calls black people word. I never used that word. So let's start in their mind like we got bets. I think you're right. Wow and so fast forward a week later when you walk into Richie's office and he tells you that the companies being extorted. What was that meeting like I go? What do you mean? And he said the guy was Going off the deep end he was belligerent. That was the word rich us that's WASI belligerent. He goes he wants the six million dollars because he's got a tape. Says you know you said the N.. Word I said why didn't say the N word the context I said you know. I never say that word and I said the tapes GONNA TO HELP US Steve and then so from the end of May I the June to the first week of July They tried to get a result result. so there were lawyers going back and forth so I guess he didn't get it resolved until the end of the July this so so when they decide to make it public what did they. They never actually released the tape. They just made like a An announcement like what did they announce because the tape has never been released. So what did they say what I got out. Aircraft coming back from Columbus Ohio on the tip five o'clock Caroline oiler called being said Who is that the Papa Johns and Because she he was trying to get the matter resolved So she said with laundry service she said The head of HR laundry service is talking to Forbes about the use of then were and. That's the first notice. I got a couple of hours art sink yeah went oh Gosh here we go do I but I didn't know that the people people on the inside that I thought were protecting me. We're actually setting all this up and then Forbes called at eight said we're going to run this article that you WanNa comment that's well let we see the article said well you don't get to sit and you see it in the paper tomorrow morning at five thirty and next day at five Geneva comment no didn't see the article right. I didn't I didn't were they. Were headed you regret. Not giving a comment. No because I had no idea what was going on right now. You knew that there you probably knew at the time it was GONNA be Papa. John said the Edward. Is that what you expected expected knowing what I've known through the NFL. Before when I said let's settle this between the owners and the players satisfaction and they turn turn that into race. I knew that it was a very dangerous position for me to be a new. This was not good. I did not know my own company company in the agency who was hired to keep this from happening or in on this to actually make it worse not better so you. Were you shocked when you read the article in the morning I was shocked at the headlines. And I you know I was like wow where the headlines. What they said They the headland played adoption. Used the N.. Word it made it sound like that. I'd call somebody Word Papa. John used the N.. Word made it accusatory nature when what I I said was I don't use that word so let's not use the word factor. If I go to dinner some I use that word one time. Don't say the word and I'll get up and leave dinner I literally and I've done that once but It's just not a good word so don't use the word I don't use the word I'm a you how you how many times you I guess I've never been at dinner with somebody who's The N. word. I don't know if it's an area on does happen. It's happened yet but it's it's a different lay the land. Yeah think people I mean in La. I guess people are more conscience but you think there's still a lot of racist no. I don't think it's prevalent but sometimes you get somebody that's had if you get a little sloppy and it's not cool. Yeah Yeah I feel you if it was part of their vocabulary. They wouldn't be somebody with any runway right but some people think it's cute or funny or try to be edgy on. It's not yeah. Yeah so the headline comes out. It's shocking the shock back in the media is immediate and As understand it. Correct me if I'm wrong You were removed from board of directors that very day no resigned as the chairman. You resigned was that how does that look. Because were you ousted. I mean or you resign. What was the difference? The I don't WanNa get too technical. But this is corporate governance the shareholders vote The board of directors in So to get aboard director removed. It takes a shareholder vote. We didn't have a Schroeder voted. At the time I had thirty one percent that would have been tough to get rid of me. As a board of directors the board of directors vote on. WHO's the chairman? The board of directors asked me to step down honest chairman. Because they felt like it would save the company so Wednesday the eleventh. I'm still thinking. The board of directors directors is still John Camp and I had a couple of meetings with one or two directors that Thursday or Friday. I still thought the board of directors was in the John John Camp. It wasn't until Saturday night that he called an emergency meeting on Sunday Alma. Gosh my own board is now going to use this to hurt me because you know I think the the stepping the act of stepping down was like almost came off as an admission of guilt. I didn't have a choice choice. Well the board of directors voted you. They would. They would've voted out if I had to step down. Yeah well what a nightmare that week must have been for. You may just right right. Yeah I mean there was that that night and then remember by this time we had to PR experts on staff And the Wednesday that this happen eleventh was the last time they ever talked to me. So nobody'll papa. John's has ever called to help. She got two you people. They're supposed to be crisis manager in the shit storm and nobody from the companies now. Are you suspicious. You what's going on here. I had our I heard An Agency theon. La You had your own pl. Eleven o'clock on Saturday night. Best what I realized we had a problem. Is this bullshit these crisis management people because it I mean the crisis wasn't managed was full blown. Did they help I'd say the agency that I have today PROACTIV is turned it around For sure The agency we used in La. We used them twice in the. Your point hasn't been been nothing. Good for me but proactive has been very good the position. We're in today versus. Where was at seven months ago? Nine Day we're now on the offensive. Do you regret not do. Do you have any regrets about how it all went down anything you would redo over. Well I'll be fine. I mean it'd be fine The damage done to the employees. I keep coming back that I know in the Franchisees. These people the way they handle this and the way they went about this and their motives Have heard a lot of people That part Keeps me up at night There has been Nice Nice where I lay in bed going. My Gosh you know. That's not what I said. And that's not one of them about how it is. You never thought I was going to come to an end but it's kind of like kind of scary very 'cause you kind of don't know how to get yourself out of this mess and the when you're painting in the corner of Race it's bad it's a terrible position to be in and especially when you're not There's been days where I wish I had said something that was or acted like I was racist. Because then then you get treatment or you get help or you say you're sorry but that's not my nature that's not what I am as being and that that's how can you say you're sorry for something that may be correct the record like Hey I guess you. Did you expect someone to do that for you. Well get this has caused a tremendous amount of damage The company was making one hundred fifty million dollars a year. Now makes basically zero If the board stops in says he's on probation you know. He's still on the bench till we find out what happened here. They had the tape within a week. They could have said Oh my gosh. He didn't what he said was anti-racist it was a positive call he's not you're not portraying this right if they would of characterize it in truthful manner we're out of this mess pretty quick quick and They didn't instead they piled on. They dug themselves in a whole when they realized that what I said was nothing wrong with it. They gone so far that they couldn't turn back in there today. They're in a position where they can't turn. They can't turn back they can't take the hit own the The mistake of how they handle this. Just because why the shareholders wide the shareholders have not filed suit against the company because the stocks had. We'll talk more about that later. But why the franchisees filed suit against the company. I don't know did your personal network has take a hit. Well when I was running the company we we were at eighty nine bucks a share. And I think we're at sixty five But at one time the stock is down to thirty nine right. Oh It's you know thirty numbers to sixty sixty five. It's like how I mean it's so stocks actually doing well Shares the concept called private equity and private equity is probably the most dangerous financial instrument ever created by mankind because it inflates the values the peas in so stock. Prices are kind of pull being pulled along all by the private equity Fars and so- Papa John's you think it's worth much less sentence being portrayed on the Stock Market Papa. John's yeah how is the company where two billion in dollars that makes zero. Tell me about a twenty twenty one. They make forty million bucks fifty man if they don't have any one time write offs that they've had for years and they keep him one time right off the year after year which is pretty amazing. Ever think about just dumping your stock now while you can. Oh Yeah Yeah of head because you still have seventeen percent right. And that's no. I one time I had thirty one percent ten million shares and now I'm probably closer to two or three million shares so you've dumped a lot dumped a lot of stock. It's it's my way of short in the company I don't think the company's worth anywhere near sixty five Bucks a share unless Jeff Smith. WHO's the chairman of the Board who owns a company called starboard value? Unless he's found a bigger sucker than he is to buy the company You know seventy seventy five. I don't think the come you'll stay at sixty five bucks. I think the stock prices the last card in the house of cards divall but they may have the company. Zolt got work out there. You got inspired brands. Rob Lantz. CEO came from a commodities which was inspired brand so inspire brains. Maybe you arby's is behind the the Pizza Papa Dylan I liked pizzas. Do you think Arby's do you think that Obama nation your name that they use Papa in the Padilla Padilla. I didn't feel any unique mall city and do you think Arby's is behind the papa deal. I've I have no reason to believe influence. Why would why would the? CEO of Arby's came to Papa Right. Yes yes so. I'm saying that madness Arby's madness. He's not from the pizza category. He has no Marion Creek. So He's coming at Papa. John's and he's pitching these crazy crazy. Nonsense like the PUP PUP Padilla I don't know about all the wall. I just know that the only way you can justify sixty five dollars a shares if you've got a buyer and so stay tuned the next fifty to seventy five days of what happened and see if inspire brandon. Come in about five John's now in by the way if you if if Jeff Smith can find a bigger soccer than he is then good for him Johnson who Jeff Smith is the Chairman of starboard value. Now he's here. Why do you say that because the sixty five bucks this year? Oh He's strike prices fifty one and the company's worth two dollars makes zero. He's put money into the company. You Million Awad Salah Otherwise Company was this is how bad it got. The company was in violation. Their covenants on their lungs may have had to come in and say the ball liquid injection. Yeah to keep the stock price up too key note to keep the company in default from the bank loans while Scary Times that guy sweat and you think I don't think he's white. I think the board of directors of Papa. John's was sweating before he put in two hundred and fifty million now if inspired brands. War doesn't by this company in the next fifty to seventy five days. They're all gonna be were also. We're all going to be sweating right and the pizza won't save you if they don't fix it. Yeah so I'm I WANNA go back one more time to this big conspiracy. This phone call. was there a moment where you're like where you had a moment of realization that you had been betrayed by everybody and when was that moment I can remember talking to you are adding see. Second biggest franchise March April of eighteen before this happen in going. What's is going on here because we felt something was going on? But we didn't know the conspiracy with Ritchie and Shapiro and currently we did not know that and and then Dan has just walked into the room and disrupted everything why we in the room down. I'm GonNa Pizza Camphor later. Okay thank go ahead Dan Maybe not. Dan has ruined the show. Thank you Dan and Dan is angry. He looked up. Oh thank you Dan for being proactive. But thank you Dan. Let me get my thoughts together here. you are You were talking about the. You're talking to the Franchisee about the moment you realized we we knew Richie was a bad actor. March April of eighteen. The call was the twenty second I was GonNa Fire Ritchie and July so really knew I was going to fire him so winded. I realize it was as bad as it was about a month or two after July eleventh. I was because the company every day would do some to make it worse instead of trying to salvage it or make it better or You know to get the truth out there. They actually pay kept paint me in that race Mourner and so my own company was trying to you and try to pull me under the bus. That was that was in so that mother to after her after the it hit the wire I knew the company was my worst enemy this day. The company still worse than them right with comes the PR the or because they won't let let it go. I keep trying to bring it up Why because it's the only way to keep me out once? We debunk the N.. Word which we're going to when we get the tapes then the company's got a big big problem when you realize you were betrayed by your company. Did you pick up the phone did you call somebody. Did you do something. What did you do I would talk to my confidence and my confidence Zimmerman The the Dean You know hearn Aaron Thompson was there a moment. Where you stormed into Papa? John's headquarters Oh there was there. Were some of by this time. They're miss running the mismanaging the company and they're doing things that are GonNa hurt people and you you've stormed into the office installment but I let them know that was unhappy. Did they ever not let you in. Oh I'm I've been barred from Papa. John's so was there a moment. You went there. And they're like Sir you can't come in you know there's moments I went there and all the with employees when they saw me start crying because they're happy to see me. People were crying. They know up. Man You gotta I love people. I Love Pizza. I mean I love my employees. They know that so. You can never take that away but yeah And so the the new people cried when they saw tears dozens. That is an oil. The tears were flowing remember him and the corporate headquarters the RND department. Haven't they felt mad. They know what happened to me again. We come back to the people the wake up every day. Make this country great. They're smart they know. Exactly what's going on so there was never this movie moment where you went there. You're like I'm coming up and they'll lecture. You can't come up. Well what they do. Is They hire lawyers to say that. You can't come up again okay. So you went up. And they're like get now you can't come back and the what what. What does the lawyer say just restraining order? What does it mean? Well you can't. I don't know if they threaten a restraining order but they definitely did everything they could to keep me out of the building and the keep me out of the stores you ever poke them you ever show up at the stores. Yeah yeah any good stories. It was the best provocative was was the best poke. I don't know if it's a polk is just you know it's When you own as many shares as as I do you WanNa make sure that you want to see what's going on We order pizzas last week in. DC and That's the Colonel Colonel Fritos A Colonel who works for Papa Government worker actually owns a franchise. And you know he's a he's a pretty good operator and and the The pizza you know made the pizzas supposed pepper. Only a half meets. I mean after cheese so the message order pizza wasn't Cook Right. Thunder booked and employs weren't nice to the people around me they route. That would have happened under my watch. No control on such a grain yield or level level. What goes on at Papa John Because it's the same machinery? Yeah it's the same protocol. How has the peach had changed so dramatically you stop measuring the matrices which we measured quality? I mean we measured. How many Pepperonis? How many times the phone? They stopped doing that because it costs money cars three. There's three reasons you stop measuring one is To measure cost money especially when you measure the hardest things like you know. ED's lock a cheese is across Rising to is you don't care hair care what you're serving why measured in three is You know it doesn't matter you know the difference between this Pizza Papa. OPPA is presenting for audio listeners. Pictures of photos that he's presenting of Papa John's pizzas. He's presenting a ten ten. which is a beautiful pie that dot corresponds with a ten point scale where ten point now the the new management new leadership through this to the wayside? Because it's expensive but the problem is when you train. I mean people do this and you don't measure they look this now. What are you right then? Four that's four so what we're getting. We will should be getting his tens. So we're getting force now. They won't go from ten to four overnight on a year but they will go from a eight and a half pizza to seven to have pizza on the way to six pizza. If you don't measure it There's you got the measure measure. Well now that we're on the topic we have five Papa. John's pizzas backstage. Let's bring them in. And let's have you rate each one. Can we do that I think so. Let's bring in Dan And while while dance setting that up it's going to be fascinating. I mean to have the Papa John here they are so now we've got five pizzas. Thank you Dan mm-hmm Dan. You didn't ruin the show. You were We love you Dan. We'd like of you so now here we go so you WanNa just go hand held. Maybe Dan Hogan the hand okay so We're going to set up the camera. This is a big moment for us. So let's start here I'm gonNA stand up Oh yeah well. Let's throw to a quick break. There's a buzzing in here to really sharp. We're GONNA take a quick break when we come back. We're going to gauge pizzas with the Papa himself so do not go away. We are back with Papa. John we are about to rate the on a scale of one to ten wanted in The quality of these five pizzas. Now it's from the same store you know what we should've done has got five pieces from five different in stores because if it's a good store maybe there's just one good employee is making good pies. It's not representative of the whole thing but regardless of that here we've got a cheese pizza. You'll get a shot. I mean that looks and Alex cleaning me give me that rating break that down for us and Britain bring the Mike up to your mouth. Okay pinpoint perfect scale Not a bad cook. Cook little light plenty of cheese. See the edge locked around the edge. Lock you wanted ads. Lock because if you don't like it when you take a bite the ingredients to fall off. How's that edge lock? The as lock is the cheese locked into the crust. How's it here Good better but still sloppy. Oh really what's a perfect edge lock. Let's try by careers. There's a perfect. Just perfect more chairs. I've always wanted to cheers. Cheers to Papa. Okay there's there's a great ed lock But on a scale to ten that's that's borderline eight that's horrible that's serviceable. I'd say so down across could could be could rise a little more. You want a little bit more like a French bread. where she got the cells that are different are the pizzas? Just go through machine though. How do they control the Cook? Nece who is called called an M. Dog. It's where you it's how you manage the dough gotTa Main Dole correctly to get it to react good in the oven. The ovens like a convection oven draw orange process Delaware process Don't wear he. Yeah but this is good goodbye. Goodbye good pepper. Cheney but earned the right place you you could serve this pizza. That's that's that's that'd be happy without. I would be happy with that too. That's the worst we serve. We're good what he wrote that. Those really really hard seven and a half. Wow if I was a generous eight eight and a half a half clean edges right. And you're you're looking at a major sauce us. How do we prevent the bubbles that on cable no that's docking of attending but if you're not measuring it this will slip into some bad habits right so this is not bad habits all the way? But it's it's it's it's Baby stepping away from this so see. Let's look at the other ones. This is the worst we ever serve. We'd be this is an pop is being tough here. This is a seven and a half I give this up. I give this attempt I think in five seconds. Okay well the minute would you do. And that's why I do what I do right. I mean yeah exactly. I don't run a pizza chain here now. This is the funny now. This is the heart Valentine's Day pizza. Were you does this predate your ousting. No no we. We did that product I am. I supposed to eat this. There's no slice on it I don't know if ever seen now. That's a Apopka via the deal with that is looking that damn thing I mean. He's a heart shape piece is cool so but you still got to cut it. We can't this. I don't know why they don't cut it the deal. Yeah exactly I agree. That's more like a case of deal came up with the cow zone. Yeah well this is fun. It's Valentine's yeah you know it's got plenty toppings for what it is. I agree it's I give it a ten because because it's fun. I ten for fun. Everybody but I don't know why they didn't cut it. Yeah I mean. I don't know if they're supposed to cut it. I don't know if they're gonNA take another bite of us. Make sure you get on your side. Yeah don't have cooties or anything juggled Aziz Aziz thing is. They didn't travel to the one thing they didn't do is put the No no I know. That's not a time. Genius is trying to trying to save twelve cents exactly Ostrov sense ten to twelve since it's been awhile since I've been there but do you ever you think about cutting it for cost me. Yeah no way you live in diving motorcycle game. That does it I love the the caller Talk we've done that since day. One garlic butter salt and Garlic but we now have we do it in mass quantities ladies. So it's a little bit differentiated but tastes the way we did it from the broom closet today thirty five years ago. Was that your idea. The butter we had a Independent a pizzeria new Albany next to Jeffersonville and they put butter in the box. And I liked the concept we started it and people fell in love with it. Never could stop it surprised corporate geniuses having taken taking the blake they might yeah they might bucks a year. Thirty million bucks. Lana butter butter and you already tuned on that. Oh Wow so now. This is the poppas favorite. They went back in the end. The whole John's favorite. Yeah which they removed from the website by the way. Oh they did yeah I I don't exist rony sausage cheese. Let's break it down okay. It's a little dry by the crust in quite have that good rise in it You've got good distribution and toppings a little bit of sauce on the edge edges are not clean lean again. We're we're in the ballpark of an eight year. You are a tough pizza critic my friend well if the if it had a good rise to see it's it's a little flat because they're not managed. The dough cheers but see how flat it is right. You don't want your right now but when you get the point when you've done this means at times were you can kind of see it if you're gonNA have to fifty pizzas and thirty as you just eat a couple bites and you know what's going on. Are you pizza. Jesus Christ uh-huh are you the save your pizza. We're going to find out if the PA- If you're the Pizza Jesus Christ Richie Judas degree the richest Judas do. Hey Yes for all right of course but I actually agree you knew you nailed it. The the crust is too thin and affects the. I don't like the Cross Mesa drive. It's dry you wanNA keep that moisture. So what do you give that one. Because I didn't like that one because of the crowd I give it looks I that could get into an eight but again. They don't measure this. The problem is looks great but it doesn't taste that great longer. Measure the rise. Come on you you got to measure the rise in the best way to measure rises cheese pizza so if you get the cheese pizza right then you'll get all the other products right but they stop. They stopped this. How do you measure the rise is because you cut it and then you die sector like surgery and you see how much of that France Dole look and so but what affects the dough? What what happens if in the morning you go to make the dough not getting that rise than those other two green? What do you do? It's not warm enough Or the oven. Settings things are not correct you got to tinker you gotta tinker but we have a management system in place to make sure that that process happens correctly but what gets measured gets done mhm you know you what you inspect is what you expect right. They stop this. This is a problem. Huge problem huge problem. Okay Okay see other pumped up here absolutely fundamental things in a pizza ingredients out to the edge ingredients in every bite no agreements. They're known gradients. There were game. We're back to the desert. Yeah that's that when I'm having a huge problem with this area that product is not not. That's not as bad as as simple as some of these other ones. But you're see you're on your way to is. You're you're on your way to this us with this disaster disaster. You're getting close right now. Let's go let's the rise this stores having a rise problem. They're not managing the dough and they're not at all because they're not inspect that's not up there. There's not up ten point ten point. Perfect Pizza Scale L.. went out the window when I left her friend. Richie Judas almost call him do you. Just what's his last name. Steve Steve Ritchie Judas. Richie that's not good not good. It's not good the rises all. So if you're at home you're not getting this with a good rise. You need to call the store names for new pizza. The Pizza Donaldson Pizza. Give Guarantee Washington. Papa John's no no guarantee ooh that looks a little better better. That's going to be an eight and a half pizza. Well we we gotta get a little rise if we had a little arise here. Then we're approaching now with pizza. This is going to be a little flat to the same store. I mean it's the same dull oven right disaster not a disaster just papa. John's when the Dole rises mixes with the sauce the when the yeast off the Sugar Secrete Co to co to the chemical racks mixes with the sauce. I gives our product that Zing If you don't have that chemical reaction with the doe the rise the dating in this price. Zing Zang is the capital P.. And Papa I think so yeah me too. It's not it doesn't take a piece. Lisa wonderbra little perfect cells and take a good piece of French bread. There's a huge difference. One has a good rise. One done this product doc. It's not the recipe of the show. I don't think they changed that too much even though they change it a little bit. It's the how they're managing the DOE. There's three things the to make a great product consistency. How you put the product together? Ten point scale in the ingredients now they have changed ingredients ingredients somewhat. They got rid of all Pizza University right. You could see yourself a pizza professor. I mean I just know what tastes good. Yeah Yeah I mean you know as my Farmer friends says Modesto. It's the food stupid you know. Most people have rocks tastebuds especially the corporate geniuses. They really don't care if it tastes face go to not care about stock price earnings. They don't really care about the people in the product but at the end of the day you know people can taste the difference or want to pay the difference. That's our loyal customer right and if you get it right they can tell the difference and they'll pay the difference. They don't eat the pizza. You know what I mean. They're they're up in their ivory towers and they don't eat the pizza. I think you're right. Unfortunately fortunately I think you're right. You need people that that love. Pizza with the manager of that store is the center of the universe the managers onto the universe Ma- center of the the universe. How they're the they're the you know the the glue that holds it all together? You know. They're the ones that builds great teams. They make a great pizza and they really make Papa. John's John's ago that was the treasurer of treat. So I mean what was your overall impression. I think the the presentation was good. But there's a real crust issue going on here it's it's an epidemic I would say It's on I would say it's the new de Corona virus of Papa. John's well you know Ray KROC said your qualities all these only as good as you're consistent saying right and what you saw. Here's bad habits right. But they're consistent and so you know you WanNa get the point where you're doing the right things things in a very consistent way so there's no surprises with the consumer but there was a lot of good with these pizzas. Hey agree but if you look these product two years ago versus Eighteen months versus twelve months every six months. If they don't measure it will continue to get worse to the point where than than your average score is a six and then you're dead. You're dead in the water dead when you were running everything. How frequently do you do? This kind of quality control Ila great a question the the how do you measure a million pizzas the day and the answer is you. Don't you measure seventy thousand a year and you poll and and so if you measured enough in union sent what gets measured gets done what gets rewarded gets repeated so we paid bonuses on doing doing this the right way and that's all been cut out on. Oh right so they don't get into bad. It's your diet or your exercise. You don't again the bad habit in a day you slowly over time getting a bad habit and what will happen if they don't measure this Then over time it will get worse than worse the point where you can't even recognize product from now. Is this that no but at least it's in the ballpark now. A few of those. There's other pieces that I showed you. You know that's death. What do you think about Domino's and pizza? I think they I think they do nice job. I mean I really do business for a reason. What do you think a little? I like to call them little seizures. I think for the the money they've got a good value. They use fresh back sauce. A good product And that's the thing with. We were talking earlier about no experience. I mean this is not like I mean they got Papa Johns Sandwiches Arby's well there's no really national roseby teens except rb did Taco Bell. There's no national chains the you know do tacos but Taco Bell Pizza. You've got four big players. They're all pretty good at what they do. And then you had another half the market. That's your independence which are really good guerrilla warfare. So I mean they're tough I'm going to do. Oh spot podcast this week with independent called Rocco's out of New York they're based in DC. But they're coming from New York. And I mean the guy's a street fire I mean those is business business. I mean he's GonNa get you so much more competitive Hyper Yeah it's it's tough you gotta be really really good to be successful at that The pizza delivery business. And you know you keep seeing these little chinks in the armor. Those little things are going to end up to the big bad chinks well. We've pretty much said it all Papa John. We've eaten pizza we've talked pizza. We've talked pizza. Conspiracies could mean what what stone is left unturned. What are we what what's left? Is there anything you WANNA add. Is there anything that I should've asked you did it. I mean there's a lot lot INS and outs here. Is there anything you want to say to the people the fine people of the world and by the way I do WanNa say actually just ask you a question. I'll let you answer trip. We reached out to Papa John Years ago because we are. We've sold I. I like to say I sold more Papa. John's pizzas and Peyton Manning. I don't I don't follow football's balls the guy who will pay pains of great hockey player. I've sold more pizzas. It says the Peyton Manning. My dietitian was adamant only coming on the show off. That's the guy back. Yes yeah adamant that. Come on this eight years ago. Oh and I said I said why I had my agent at the time reach out I says. Why can't we get a deal with Papa? John I'M GONNA sell I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA put points on that stock but they declined but you heard of the offer you got to you. Yes I wanted to doing. I mean you know it's so interesting so what happened. Well you know it's like like I mean somebody and they go you know I think I think I'm crazy. I think I'm losing my mind. I just you know and then you you meet. Somebody says I'm not crazy you know. I'm not crazy well. The person thinks they're not crazy. The people that think they're crazy they're crazy this self righteous. Oh John can't go on that show to eleven ethan. All my gosh you know we're so self righteous. Our words are perfect and our behaviors of perfect. Those are the people that are doing things behind the scenes. Dangerous dangers that their their their behavior behind the scenes with scare the Stripe Hambrecht coon. Would you forgot got to ask me about graduating college in three years I I totally forgot. Come up to you so you go ahead. Yeah up any any second in my class. Second from the bottom. Yeah I've got the last game in my pocket. I got a picture just to make myself feel good and did you so did oh you didn't finish in three years. You're finished three years. It sounds like we finished in three years all but one class. So did you graduate second the class second from the bottom. Yeah okay you got it material that you brought material any other Bits you got no appreciate you'll have me on. It's been a delight now if domino's ever it reached out there like on board. Wow what would you say. Well we're working on a lot of things in the future. The remember I love Pizza. I love the people. WHOA wait? Is there possibility that there's a WHOA. What are you announcing here today? Well we always are in search for a better pizza. And we always are when I was with Papa. John's always got a better ingredients. You mean you can't make us OK- whilst salary domino's has been making some big moves in the pizza category. They've killed it last ten years. They've done really well. You think that there could be a worthy. The AD ally to I don't know about that. We haven't talked about that. I do know that we're always in search of a better pizza. Can I'm trying to decipher what that and There's a couple of pizzerias area's really make a really really good pizza we're looking at. We're doing a show you can have. I mean you're going to invest in them well Papa. John's we always is one to be America's independent pizzeria because independence. Make the best pizza and we we were public. We were big the company but we always tried to act like a family run business with regards to people and product. And that's what the independence do they have to they gotta be scrappy. And they got bigger and the the food is the food stupid so we're doing A podcast with Rocco's apologized this week. We heard for the first time up in DC. And we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA hit Rocco's those pizza now They know what they're doing. This is a ground up investment. Well this is well. I'm not I'm not investing. I'm just going to go in. It's called pizza with Papa. You're making a pizza. podcast with with pizza with Papa with Rocco's pizza that's our pilot so what is this Rocco's pizza you to be Have a vested interest in their success. Well we were have. I love small business small businesses. What makes America great and even as big Rocco makes better pizza then Papa? He makes really really good pizza. Ma if they keep doing this Yes I do Because he's making sure this doesn't happen in fact if you go into Rocco's you'll see. He doesn't violate late. He any attempt he gets. Is it like the Ten Commandments. Like the Dinkum But he's interested in He's hop if I'm reading between the lines. It sounds like you are in the beginning of of getting behind a new new pizza empire to rival your former and see a great battle of origin. Rocco's V. Papa John No the the show. The show's all about the American dream. It's all about small business in since I love pizza. What better way to go to the American dream to America's independence and we're or go start off with Rocco heats with pop and that's going to be fun And then we got a few other things. We're looking at with finding a better pizza. You know. Always in search of a better pizza. And so the independent Pizzerias make the best pizza documentary. I wouldn't mind doing that a TV show. Like look. I fieri like Papa Papa Papa. We'll guys a friend of mine and pop not no guy. I mean you guys really good what he does He knows food to food Really well but I don't pizza so we're going to have fun. We're going to go out to producers of America. America's independent pizzerias big plants. Fun I mean he uses. I mean Rocco I uses fresh pack sauce. You use the stance loss which were big fans of those folks. He's using God `Grande Cheese which is higher butterfat buttermilk. I'll talk about that. He's Susan Bakers Pride Deck of and. That's what we started in When we started in the broom closet? Amazing you are scrappy young man with a humble beginning you. You've come to be extremely wealthy man. How does that did did you? What point in your career did you become be like? Oh Shit Shit. I'm like I'm a wealthy guy. Well in the broom closet We did two hundred dollars one night. My brother and I were jumping up and down because we thought we were rich rich. So we've always made a good living No but come on. There's a difference between like you know a couple hundred thousand ten million million dollars when we went public in June of ninety three. I didn't have five thousand dollars to take the family on a trip. Really look the little and then the next day I was worth one hundred man. What started one shit so that was the day when we we did because that was stupid? Money it's thirty or thirty one years old. You make one hundred dollars you you don't. There's no way you know how to handle that. So what happens you go off the deep end for everything no you. What isn't the dumbest thing you yeah? You spent like ridiculous bottom boat. That's about as stupid Turks Dodge Viper thought. That was is cool till I got pulled over but I think what's that like to get that one focus. The I've never met somebody. That successful zestful that was arrogant and pompous. That in a short period of time became unsuccessful. And so no matter. How successful you are? You GotTa Stay Gracious. You GotTa stay thank come on USA humble and when you make one hundred eighty bucks thirty one you know you you gotTa have Some people around you the do some some pruning to make sure you don't think you're smart as you think you are and so you know it was a bad no but could have been better. Yeah but they don't write a book on this crap you've cast you just watch cash. Yeah it is. It's just catches straight to your bank account cash and stock stock so let's say a covert eighty million in stock in twenty million cats. Nothing with that money. You probably buy a house. And then put some money in the stock market or the Mon- like a money market account you try to buy property You know you buy some Warren Warren Buffett. You know some folks you know with what about your family and friends were they like. WHOA this guy's like people act differently? I mean that always happens doesn't it. You know the friends. Uh Really. The family hasn't really that doesn't change them to pretty grounded because that's just You know to respect the people people to make this country. Great is in making their lives. Better I mean that's that's really the key to happiness. That's how I'll get filled. You Find Yourself withdrawn though as you become because it's almost like it's hard to relate to other people when you come that wealthy right. Do you find yourself withdrawn more now. No I don't have problem. I mean I actually relate better to a waiter waiter in a restaurant or somebody driving a truck than I do. A governor do much better with people that work for a living and and Our scrappy than I do do people that are wealthy can do both but you know I can have that repertoire. But I'd much rather be was somebody that's I'd rather be with Rocco's pizza next week. Then people them with the vice president and I liked the vice president. He's fine with them. Who are you driving with? Rocco to Mike Pence didn't seem like a lot of fun but And and how long does it take you to come up with the Ten Commandments. Do you. have Kevin Enlightening one day. The perfect we had this from the get-go over the years. You get research and research refines little things like we always had an edge lock winning call it and we always tried to get the ingredients out to the edge. It's just distracting it. I know I think it's great. I got I'm just trying to that economy. A woman who say it sucks. It makes me and he's eating the hell out of. I'm just trying to figure out what it has. A little What did you call it? The crust issue done right. It has a rise issue. That's all but but you ever get heckled on the street from people never we haven't had one incident Out in public about this long. That's what I say this was fabricated by the by the Papa. John's and the board which is very difficult when your own company starts making things up creates a narrative that's false false what what did the NFL guy hate like. Why did he have a distaste for you? Because I was on this case to fix the problem. Listen that's what leaders do they fix the problem when you mind explaining a little bit about that issue because we didn't really talk about it but like what do you mean by saying that you were just on him to fix the problem okay our largest dispensers the NFL. It was some forty million bucks a year where huge how many forty million Ford forty million. The year pieces sponsor official pizza then fell that's the two And the ratings were all twenty percent because of the kneeling controversial. There was less ratings less before watching. And you're paying the same amount right. I take a twenty percent decrease in ratings on forty Mil. How much is that? As an eight million dollar loss so are being the fourth in the category. We don't really have the sustainability to cover an eight million dollar deficit so my Arjun orders to Goodell was fixed this to the players players and owners satisfaction. He didn't like that he didn't like that law back. Tony ever say stop the players from neely no of course. Not because the headline did I consumed and always saw. Was that Papa. John doesn't want the players kneeling as if you were taking up little stance against that. No no way. So how did that get out. I think the company promoted that to Papa John from even back then was November. I think Shapiro and Richie by that time. We're like if we don't say anything and let the media Crucify survive than we can advance the take. Who got the story who like as they got the story wrong? Who originally told them? It was papa. John doesn't want the players kneeling. The comments were ten after ten on Wednesday in by within an are they changed from. Fix The problem here. Roger that's as bad leadership fix it to the players and owners owner satisfaction to kneeling to race in less than one iron and went viral so was premeditated they were sitting on the comments. And what it will is it a far Dr. Is it a stretch of the imagination to think that fixed the problem means get them to stop kneeling. No because I think they can deal. I think they just have to do it. In a way that doesn't Polarize is a situation again. I'm not going to tell them to kneel or not you just were look online I just WANNA resolved. Yeah because you're dig it resolve the the following year But it had gone on too long but from from from business owners sample and I can certainly see where you're coming from. I mean you're paying forty million bucks and now you're getting less eyeballs. Oh Yeah Yeah it was. You know when you have to understand eighty percent of the money's going. NFL are the Small Business Owners Papa. John's calls call the Franchisees. So so we're expected to be good stewards of their money in so when we're spending forty man and we're getting a twenty percent discount on our spend then it's my job as a CEO CEO in a public company. Just say hey we got to resolve this we need. We need to get this done. That makes a lot of central. He had there were options for him to fix it. And like wh- what could he do. He did fix fix it. Yeah I'm not exactly sure how you fix the but he did fix them within ten months kneeling. Didn't that I think they took the kneeling pregame or they put a penalty yourself did something but they resolve the issue so I just took a huge huge baton. Did this all seems I let me just chew my good pizza. The Justice British God. It's my resume a better. It seems that this whole conspiracy started or the first time I saw a young controversy was obamacare verbal care. Act when you said you and correct me if I'm wrong you you oppose the forber character because it rise increase the cost pasta pizzas by twelve cents or something of that nature. No the analysts worried about the cost of obamacare our delivery charge per pizzas about two fifty to sixty the apar- obamacare was fourteen cents. So the point was it's insignificant. It's not a problem. I mean it's less than twenty percent of what it costs to Deliver the pizza so it was an analogy to explain that fourteen cents a pizza because there is a cost. I mean you know when you provide more healthier as a cost but it's it's insignificant on a on a dollar pizza fourteen cents just over over a point so it's not a problem but your comment was that you were going to lower Employs employs hours to avoid paying their health insurance. I would ever say that I will say in Hawaii. There's a Franchisee out there with the head of program similar obamacare. And that's what he did. He lowered the ours. And that's what ended up capping him with a lot of the Companies in the market. But I never said that you are saying that that You your comment was in support of Obamacare and not against as it sounds like you like you're saying it was thirteen eighteen cents and that that's a small amount so who cares but at the time it was reported in what I've read is that you were saying that It was going to be undue cost. I know my comments. Fourteen cents is incidental doesn't matter and that it's good that everybody's going to have health insurance because if we did it everybody Elsa do it so we we looked at it as a good thing. If as long as everybody did it you know as as one so we didn't look at the speech I gave it Edison. We looked at. It is a very good thing that one hundred percent of the employees have health insurance. That's interesting there's a transcript. Not How was Reported but remember what I told you when this was in two thousand well it was a long remember the second in two thousand twelve. Would the company do nothing. What happens win? The company does nothing. John gets hurt by November first of seventeen. They did it again. They did nothing I got killed and they painted in the race so the the company now has a track record of knowing when they do nothing it hurts me. And if you're wanting to take me out of the picture what better way to do it then ignore what was really said uh-huh And you are but you are saying just for the record that you never said that you had lower employs hours. No I here's the beautiful thing is the. There's a tape from Edison College on that speech. which is you can get that tape if you WANNA see it? I'll send it to you and ella the transcript. Two thousand seventeen is a transcript versus the tape and there's a tape on the laundry service so there's a tape on all three comments. None of the comments are indicative of what was reported by the media and Papa. John's did nothing to clear the record. Now is that good. Let's turn out to be a disaster so if you take the position we're going to get rid of the founder and we're going to violate the duty of care and the duty loyalty and we're gonNA throw him under the bus for something he you didn't say probably not legal. Probably not cool. But they're making a bet that the company would be better without me right. It's turned out to be a disaster comes in trouble the Franchisees and truffles and not only did they violate the law. Nullity do something. It was born on evil. They've heard a lot of people on the way. What would you say to? I imagine what they would say. Same response to that is that the company was already on the decline. Because of your actions I would say the company was on the decline because they didn't correct the record and let was mischaracterize carried on and they further embellished. Remember the two people in charge of PR that we're supposed to protect me. Deserted me in call in the middle of now. I've made these people multi mainers that one executive now one member is called and said how you doing. They probably ordered not to communicate with you. I don't know what it is. But can you imagine a founder building. Five thousand doors broom closet and and having something miscarried or your family. Ah over the house at Christmas took them on trips and they don't even call checkout on how you're doing now there's some people that are feel bad. They're pretty sad that's pretty sad. I feel sorry for people that I mean. When you build a five thousand store chain of a room closet and you make all these people multimillionaires and you know you have something like this happen? It's untruthful and then not fair and balanced. It's not right in the sense that that's not my character. That's not my moral fiber and yet they don't pick up the phone. So Hey we there's disagreement here but how how you doing. How's your family personal resentment? Sounds like yeah you expect more from these people. How do you people that now? People that you think are put together you know. These are leaders of the community. They put together very well You know they're not put together the way they pretend to be put together You know the Corp Jeans please. Do you have trouble trusting. People now know that you get better at it. You're more guarded. You're more you're more you are you have to be you have have to be more retreated now unguarded. Who speak to and who you associate with? There's gotta be trauma there. PTSD yeah potentially the member the you have to look at things of what did I do. Wrong what could I have done. Better and Couple things one is thirty. One percent didn't hold the day so I should thirty one. You thought that would be enough. I thought it'd be. How did it end up not being because what happened? Though thirty one wasn't enough to carry another twenty percent against what the backlash on the N.. Word so everybody. All the other owners colluded to four a community communicative Tiv- fifty one percent to oust you the board Schwarzen- that the board colluded with the media to make the N.. Word worse than it was and then went to the other owners owners and said we have a bad apple and John. That's kind of how they did that. The second thing is remember I knew this something like this could happen. But not from people around me that cared about because it wasn't in their best interest to do this right to your point that the lesson there is you have to have a you have to have your guard up a little better but I missed the boat on those two aspects and I lost my company in the company now is in trouble. Well I was going to ask you know in summary looking over the the story as it is. You've got these. Three big of media controversies dating dating back. The first time I heard you in the news in that regard was two thousand twelve with favorable court karaoke. which according to you was misreported What's the story and all of this is for you? What do you take away from this whole from this whole experience? You've built it up in two thousand twelve than in the past couple of years again. To more controversies with the annealing and then that phone call where you said the N. Word like what's what are we. I mean what's what how do you. What's the story you know what's the lesson for you? I think the the the lesson is always go through things like this and you come out beside other side a better person And this this makes you a stronger and better and it made me more appreciative of the people that do good. And do you have a good good soul The we had a really good thing going was making hundred fifty million bucks a year and we had the best pizza and best service. And everybody's making a lot of money So that that introduces an element amount of being comfortable in. Sometimes when you're comfortable you don't You know you prune the bad parts of yourself as much as you should whereas if you go through something like this it forces you to be a better person in every way and I could never sold eight million shares the stock when in the position. I was a coo because it scared to death these folks have come in. They've created a Miraj. They Lafarge they bump stock up to sixty five. And I've been able to sell seventy eight million kind of a nice thing. It's it's a real nice thing because I never would have been able to sell seventy million shares without Denver lining exactly you cash out a little bit. Where for you couldn't write plus? Now Gimme the math. What you so? How many seriously so? Let's say eight Mil eight million shares my God and at what what value. Let's just do fifty for math. Is Four Hundred Mil. ooh So you cash out four hundred million. How how do you feel? I told you I'd be okay. It but but little were coupon so the company pays you forty million dollars People to buy the stock pay the four and then this guy is coming in and saving the company with how much two hundred fifty million you fought but you just sucked out four hundred million. Let's see who's right all it hit. Somebody's again he's got this thing sold in the next. So what did they expect. They knew you were going to sell your stock. You'd be kind of be silly of you not to say well. Here's what I was hoping I. I was hoping they could run it better than I could run. I really was. I mean let's see let's see I mean because you think maybe you don't know as much as hell maybe they're right. Maybe the right so over clock along here at three or four percent of comps and we're making good pizza and culture and everybody's getting raises. I'm like well it's not how I would have done it but good for them. The Mess S. out what's happened you know. We're closing stores. I went down to my hometown store in Park. City yesterday to get the PADEAS Um really pop zones. But Papa D. is okay and the source closed had to drive all the way to Salt Lake but Closing stores people lose their jobs and so I can't be part of that and I don't want to be part of it but the silver lining is now. I'm involved with some some health things I love people. I Love Pizza And and we found some things that really can help people's help make people feel better emotionally spiritually and intellectually and physically that turns me on You've got four hundred a million dollars in the bank. You can do whatever the hell you want. That's in good. It's been a blessing from God told you religious fan not religious but there's definitely higher power. Oh for sure. There's just wondering if faith has been played a role in your life at all or helped you through this. If yeah when you ed your teeth kicked in like this put you on your knees pretty quickly. which is a good thing? You know mumble. Oh my gosh I mean you You know when you get your noggin knocked around like this on. Something really didn't say or do you. You know I was always spiritual anyway because I never understood how the speed of light one hundred eighty six thousand thousand miles a second. You know Mother Nature. I mean I just find all that like way above my intellectual great yeah But this'll this'll make you. You know this will make a humble in a lot of ways. So have you heard that term. That are ice on our fans us a lot. Publicis publicized that all you hear before we reached out or connect got connected a heard it but you know what I meant. Yeah it's just a weird thing. I really don't even know how it started. But it's so prolific kick. Now everybody says Papa bus which is a reference to you of course. So we've all been praying for you Thank you this whole time. All these years worked. I guess it didn't work working. I mean we got Rocco's Rocco's we go out and other coming I've got another. I got another couple pizza places. I'm working on. I can't wait to share with these fun. And then we got this health thing going on and how many how many years you have left and Papa John to mill through damn you're very wealthy man cheeses Baba well. We took. We took the company over. There you billionaire. Does that make billionaire. That makes you close closer to be and then five hundred million but club. It's a blessing and you can do so much good with those resources. I plan on doing that But we're having fun with people's People's health and we're having fun with independent careers. Were out the pizza. And we're out. The found a better way to go through life to help people. Why don't you sell the rest of your stock? What's holding onto it? Well you there's laws balls. Oh Yeah so you can only do so much at a time so you would offload all of it and just move on if you could. I don't know if I would do that. I can't really say that because I I don't know if that would that. What do the stock of I said that? But it sounds like you're saying here that you're suggesting in an in an indirect way that people should sell their stock. What I'm suggesting is everything I did from o-9 bring out the ten point? Maybe to seventeen to take the stock from six fifty share to eighty nine dollars every single fundamental thing. We did our principles. Our values are people our interpersonal relationships. The print are gone. They're violate and also. The company is in financial central is being floated by this investment. So it sounds like they've artificially Inflated the price of the Stock I mean. Now's the time to get out if you got papa John's stock. It sounds like the two metaphors that I've us is even if you love the car you don't need to be in the car when the car crashes right and the other one is in my opinion. The ship is already at the iceberg. Already listen but they got a camera that makes it look like his level. I think it's a farce. We'll see what happens. It's gotTa Gearhart. I hope I'm wrong. You've got a lot of money. Invested in hope for two years for two years and I've been ranting and raving and tell them you know that this is a losing proposition and they're probably tired of me telling them for two years of of hope. That was wrong. One Hundred Million Dollars Company and stock value at fifty dollars rush at sixty five bucks. A little more than sixty five let me recalculate mates one thirty but keep going. Do you watch or have you ever watched something something. Like kitchen nightmares Ramsay. No you don't watch that good shit kick it out you watch. TV Watch food shells most mostly sports spartak ars guy that must have been real. Honor Feud again twelve of that and a fella a dream that was lucky because I saw you what those what those players all smiles. And you're all on the field and doing all that must've been amazing. Yeah Payton was great. Montana was great Marina was great. I mean Jj Watt was great. Right we had a lot of fun with Jerry Jones. The bus drome he was great. You know Shaq's been great. Get Papa Shock. I wanted to ask you about Polish. We're not must have been a fan of well. Everybody's yeah yeah we just got numbers can worth thirty four. Thirty six. Or the shack deal facilitated That I was after you were ousted right nothing. So is that a shame that you're like damn I like shack. I wish we could hang out absolutely. I mean you've talked to no never talked to show. I'm a VIC Shack Fan Shack sits on the board but I'm not as close to shack is was paid G. Talk to do talk to them. I talked to Peyton you know and those guys on a need to know basis until I get this controversy result because I can't I build a liability ability for them and I can't put them in that position and I haven't yeah but Yeah what a complicated life you live to shame. You never got to serve on the board the same time in shock right. That would have been interesting. Yeah I I'll shack. Here's where shacking. I agree with Papa. John's he wants to use his voice choice. And the guys at Arby's WANNA use a different voice like they did at Arby's I think they should use shacks voice. I really do. I mean if you're going to he's going to be your spokesperson. Yeah they only use him ten fifteen fifteen percent of the ads. That's weird show. It's real weird shot. Get Him in their drink. Spokesperson putting in their time and uses voice. But I agree with Jack the most to Those two issues but thank you for having me thank you for coming joy. who how long we went? No two and a half our job. Well let's see you might me. I'll be back. Yeah I'll be back as the as the CEO and founder of the were the newest and biggest pizza chain. Rocco's Mama Mama Oh bless while mobilised yeah well thank you Papa John It's been a privilege has been honors been a dream fulfilled come to fruition eight years eight years in the making baby. Ed Thank you. Thank you so much guys. We'll see you on Wednesday with Pudi Pie. So we'll see you dan or while on Thursday but anyway guys have a great Up God bless

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#175 - The Media Did Papa Dirty

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#175 - The Media Did Papa Dirty

"Hey poppy here it's Papa John and you're listening to the H. Three podcast go ethan. Looks like we've got an official spokesman Papa was looking for job and we scoop them up Welcome everybody as Papa said to the PODCAST. Today's episode is sponsored by Hymns Pity Pie was supposed to be on today's episode. He couldn't make it so we have no pupae but Hopefully we are enough for you all but was it really papa. John Tuesday feels like was so long ago. Yeah It was Monday Monday. That's why an early to. That's why now papa came in. He saw he conquered. Who was a beautiful moment? I mean we have to talk about that I felt I mean people said I ruined interview. There was a lot of harsh criticism for me. But I'm I'm used to that I feel like our fans. There's there's Rodeo it's like I'm destined to be hated by fans. It's just part of the game now. I've accepted it. People saying I interrupted too much Actually I got a lot of heat for Sean Evans for interrupting too. But I have a theory I have a. I have a method. You know. I'm trying a interviewing style and although it's not perfect I think that it's I think it will. It's it's GonNa be great to hone and get better at and Basically it's I'm I'm being. I'm definitely being more aggressive. You know at first. I had a real problem with Inter with interrupting people like in the beginning of our show and then I learned to not interrupt people and give them their space but then I felt like I was out of control. I didn't have control the show. And sometimes they just people can have a tendency to go on and on about things that either. I've heard them talking about already. I know what they're gonNA say or they're just doing pr right. And I am for me. We have finite time in here and I want to get to the meat to something. I WANNA get to the heart of something ended. I get bored. Sometimes if it doesn't go in direction that you want it to go I don't WanNa say board board but like the but I I want to. What I WANNA do is go to a deeper level. Yeah and so. It's it's kind of a tough balancing act because on one hand you want your guest to be as comfortable as possible because that will that will ultimately help them get into a deeper level but at the same time we have two hours here and I if they go like start talking about stuff like flowery language I just I don't really I feel like as an interviewer I do not have pay not You I don't want to hear things that I come me like. If they're saying something and I know exactly what they're saying I don't WANNA I don't necessarily want to hear and I assume that you guys. I'm assuming you guys know exactly what they're saying too so let's find out. Let's find out what what's going on with You know but that's fine. I'm used to taking the heat now. Love hate right mostly. Hey these days now. It's not true but I I'm I'm aware so. I am being more aggressive. I'm trying to take more control and I personally like it. I think it's I'm trying to develop a unique style of interviewing instead of just I. I don't really try being passed him giving people space. And it's fine but I feel like we can elevate it and have our own unique style of interviewing and that's what I'm trying to develop it so while it might not be pleasant to watch an awkward or uncomfortable and you think to yourself while Ethan's the worst interview of all time which I saw so many times I would like to see you come in here and try to hold a conversation. That's yet I well. They didn't say they're great interviewers and I'm not saying I'm a great interview all I'm saying is that maybe not being a great interviewer makes you a great interview. I think about it. I Would like to express that I feel like I know where you're going for and I support it because I think what we kinda shared the same view and we a lot of times will have the same experience because we sit here to get our so after a few guests were. We were more passive. We kinda feel like just not satisfying. We're doing go didn't get to the meat of what we wanted. No getting anything there was. I had like these really weird ones where it's like. I had a guest and I felt so out of control. I had no control of the dialogue the pacing the PIP. Going on and on about things that I that I thought were repetitive. That I I wanted to get something else and And then the comments are like. Wow the eighth street park says really come into its own eastern was amazing and I would read those and be like I thought I totally fucking. I was totally out of control. Felt awful so I don't know what to say but I have to ultimately follow my own. Instincts here yeah so I think it's a work in progress that it's tough because everyone get to watch you know everyone's watching you're trying stuff so but it's fine like I said I'm I'm used to this comments. Don't bother me you know. Ultimately those both those episodes were were well received. Despite everyone saying I'm the worst interviewer. At least the guests were happy with. That's right their appearance and how they were perceived which to me is really important to win. I WanNa make sure the guest is happy. I don't I don't want them to leave and feel like I should have never gone that. Show so looking at comments pop up. Who's a WHO's a Divisive figure controversial figure. Everyone came out hating me and loving pop. That's an incredible feat my fans so I consider that a big win. You Know Papa. Even Papas like my new Papa. Dad and I have a falling beulah walks in pop pop on the phone. We've been calling and now you gotTa Papa Finger Yeah. I haven't figure officer in the House. I wonder if he could be like a business mentor. I feel like I could call and ask him business questions for Teddy and stuff. I wonder if someone like him gets it all the time. Though and it's annoying you know. Well I don't have any legit questions firm but when I do when I liked him you know I need like a season businessman but at any rate Even Papa called me and was like your. He's like everybody loves me. There is like you're taking some heat and they're like I know Papa fans don't like let me finish let me finish that people love that I love. That too is a great Salman but you know I kept as we were sitting here and talking to him. I kept having flashbacks to us in Israel just like our first videos about him and I was like if you told me that in a few years movie is I wouldn't never be awesome. And it's like it's so insane. I'm calling on the phone with Papa. He called me when Youtube. I'll get to that. But Youtube. Like removed it from trending and De monetize it because they thought there was a racial slur in it which is so stupid Iraq. We'll get to that. But Papa calls me is. How many of us do we lose? This is outrageous. It's conspiracy. I was like I know Papa. It's crazy but he got. He did great to help right he was like. Can people do nine? Papa I got this one out of control you got your dating. I got the two. Don't worry I duNNO I. Isn't it nice to watch her interview? Where two little well. I'm not great at this style of interviewing more aggressive form of interviewing controlling the narrative but It's gotta be I mean for me. At least I find it more interesting because it kind of reminds me a lot of times when we made guest outside of the show. We'll have a really interesting exciting conversation and then on the show it's like okay now. I'm going to give you the the PR. And Sarah exactly the stuff that I have to be like guided and or guarded and say it like in a guard way so I feel like what you're going for with this direction is GonNa hopefully more truth out of them. Yeah it's more like they're real conversation and by the way I mean people like oh I can't. They're just so rude to him. You ask him about dating. It's like hello that's fucking interesting ship like like I can get it like pop wants to come on here and do the PR and talk about like it's it's about. The main ingredients is people right. It's like dude. I don't want this. I want to hear about your dating. I want to hear who? Who's Papa putting his whose pizza whose pizza whose oven pizza going? You know what I'm saying. That's what I want is ruined within. Can I interject just then I I agree i. I appreciate that You're this new thing that you're trying to get to the to the meat of people's answers a little bit more The whole thing with asking about his divorce maybe came a little early in the interview with again. I'm not I'm not great at it right. Yeah and I and I kind of thing you know. Once he's settled in a little bit more comfortable you might have even gotten a better answer for that quite well in a better after the pizza eating right well again. I didn't anticipate that being. I didn't realize it was so soon either so I didn't realize it was such a awkward thing but you know fuck it. Let's make it awkward. You're not here. Just enjoy it man. What I'm saying. Just enjoy the ride. Yeah but we're not rude but it was great. Now we're best friends. He calls me every day. How dare you say you know that's happened with a few guests where people people get offended on their behalf but the reality is like they're not offended like they're fine? Papas calling you every day. Like he's he's not upset about it but I think anyway I don't care but I think yeah but I think it's good. Obviously I'm better like I have a hard time opening interviews. 'cause it's really hard to pick the right topic where it's like I want to talk about something relevant. I want it to be lighthearted and fun and relaxed them and I wanted to be interesting too but I feel like it always gets better later in the interview so the guest is more comfortable. But that's just the nature of being here is he like at first he was he was super shut up. He was like K. Pop He's like. Hey let me here. But then at the end you know he opens up. He's more comfortable on camera. Because it's a look you come in here as a gas is very anxious and tense. You got all these cameras. You've never been in this. You're sitting across from me. Who you know is going to give you a hard time. In his case he knew he was expecting some jabs for sure. He's never done this before he's sitting there. You know So yeah I understand that the nervousness so it's a tough act to is is a hard balancing act but I'll be but yeah obviously the divorce thing didn't hit perfectly but whatever it's all good too. I like that. It was funny when you ask them. If he's getting any weird ass who doesn't want to know that come on Larry is but is great because I mean it sounded like he is because he didn't say now are being very politic. Yeah but he didn't see any. Also well. Anyway Papa Dee Blah Chop Papa Blast Papa John People. How do you disrespect pop? John like what shut out anyway. Here's a common actually if I can continue to praise myself. People who at with forty one votes after twenty or so. Here's a comment and support of the PODCAST is getting too much eight just noticed. How much hate Ethan got for the Shaun Evans podcast because interrupting and asking personal questions? Maybe it's just me but I think it was one of the most entertaining podcast yet. I feel like Ethan is just finding a very unique lyrics interview style by cutting usual fake friendly interview. Bs making a awkward. He's the opposite of Jimmy Fallon. I like it I I agree with you with the exception of him. Oh come on. I thought the top comment was more agreeable with the with the exception of discussing Papas dating life. Poor Papa wholesome guy for months. Fresh off divorce her cringe. Well okay fine. What are we can discuss it? He can say what he wants. What asked the guy I don't regret asking him. He's fucking awesome and it made everyone comfortable. That's fine nothing wrong with that. You know says it's refreshing. Oh yeah that's the one I wanted to read until this guy snuck his way up to the top. I agree the way they interview is refreshing. It's a little more raw if you know what I mean. Oh I know what you mean baby. They aren't afraid that raw. I like it raw. We like it here. They aren't afraid to ask questions. And I think at least a much more interesting interviews here. Here's one Here's one who hates me or maybe not. I'm just GonNa read it for the sake since we're here already. I feel like every hate comment is an attempt at showing Ethan. The light that has viewers. We think he's craving and we're doing this. In the form of bad rude advice I agree though in the end. They're my favorite people. Listen to but he agrees that they're trying to show me the light which I'm not sure. What the light is. Damn Bro Jewish. I just really want to be happy and making moves with the power of his platform because stop being so toxic. Thank sweet guy. Yeah but I can't tell what his what the light is. He wants me to like I think what he's saying is that he has some criticism but he doesn't want to hurt your feelings. Those toxic comments. I am sensitive but that being said I'm okay with it. Everyone is sensitive anyone who's not was saying that she is lying every guest that we have on goes through the same thing it's like there's no such thing as not being sensitive. Thank you that being said. The episode hasn't ninety eight percent like so could have been that bad but but Going into this. You know. There's two ways to react to it. It's like I'm just going to go back to the way it was because everybody hates this and hates me or I can just buckled down. Know that I'm GonNa get hate because people don't quite maybe I'm not just not good at it or maybe people aren't used to it and just get better at it. Because ultimately I feel I'm going to be delivering a more interesting better product and I'm going to be more fulfilled and engaged here as interviewer so in summary. Mr The worst interviewer of all time. Maybe but does that by itself. Make Me Interesting. I think so. It's a race to the bottom and I hope you'll join me balance out there doing his thing. You Really WanNa know. You don't want maybe you found out there for you But let's talk more about the Papa Follow Up. here's here. Here's a headline or an album of all the headlines. Now you know Papa. John came on the show and I think he's talked about a lot of interesting things he talked about. Being extorted blackmailed A conspiracy to oust him from the company and yet all the all the fricken headlines are the same papa. John's founder didn't EAT FORTY PIZZAS AND THIRTY S. I had forty. Ps How is it the headline Stupid Papa? John admits he didn't actually eat. Forty I cannot believe that that is the headline Papa. John Founder Reveals the truth. He didn't really eat. Forty PIZZAS IN THIRTY DAYS. And they all chose that shocking. There's the best one here it's A. This is the best one papa. John Reveals that he lied to America. I didn't actually eat for pizzas and thirty days. You mother fuckers either the whole country which I thought this was like. Oh we're the interview. I thought that I was losing my mind. Like how is this the line and I asked some people don't stars who listen to it Like Andrew Okay. And he listened to the podcast and he said he had the same reaction because it was like there. Are some meat there right sad. You eight forty pizzas. No you was a regular but I called him out on that too right. Yeah I was like dude that means you had forty pizzas the article. It's just a stupid this incredible story to Andrew. If he's listening by the way yeah. He's a designer great guy But to me it seems like wanted those sentences that are obviously kind of like you. Just you don't mean it literally forty pieces in thirty days. It's not humanly possible. If I like the third day of eating pizza in a row like that I think I might skin was started fault my body but some of the articles were like yet the host age three called him out out and didn't let it slide had museum. Even Klein said hard hitting journalist so good about that that Newsweek. Oh and then and then Papa schnatter after day after podcast sold another huge chunk so I was like what I wonder. That's Papa just made sixty three million. That's a good one million shares at sixty three dollars twenty four cents and made sixty three million dollars the day after podcast so hey not a bad week for Bob a turns me on Nice. What what did he say that about context? Something something about a good pizza probably data so no one that turns me on business or about pizza. Can't remember Y- Good for Papa. He still owns one point. Eight million shares. Man It's a lot of guys riches fog. Now it's crazy. Papa is like we can't even comprehend how Richie is yet like Michael Bloomberg who? I'm seeing his ads this guy. I don't think there's ever been a media. Buy like this in the history of humankind. I don't yet he. He's like the tenth or just Kinda world he's got like Like fifty billion or something like that gets closer to sixty Alex sixty billion. Papa doesn't have one billion is close but Bloomberg closer to a billion than half in the words of the Grey Papa but Bloomberg sixty billion. He has sixty times more wealth but is is is not just throwing it all away like it has no chance does he do. He's point he's trying to pull really pretty good in someplace. Going up. Eighteen percent is worth. I mean I I. I'm GonNa talk about that because you got. You may have seen that. He did all these meam buys. He bought a hat all these pages which was just outrageous which we'll talk about that but he's like getting everywhere he's on. Tv He's on Youtube. He's on the radio. He's on the main pages. He's every found. I'm surprised it's not like on airplanes outside like trailing behind as the last frontier the air just sent you a breakdown of his AD spending. He's spent Almost three times as much as all of the other candidates combine on advertising including trump. Not just the other. Democrats including trump and all the other democrats. He spent three times as much as he has an unlimited budget. Three hundred million dollars which is almost which is like. Oh let's say half a papa. John's worth that is like a hundred bucks to Bloomberg. That's all adjusts on media by the last quarter we should all go. Go into that business like. That's what I'm saying the meeting. Every every four years these fucking media companies are just making so much money from this yet you know like I donated thousand dollars to Bernie Sanders and endorsed and I. I was like this is going to go to bind commercials because ultimately just paying more rich people's at a problem. Danko had I mean who knows where the dollars your specific dollars go but I mean there's also campaign staff and canvassers and there's a lot of things besides advertising but yeah I mean at least percentage of it is going to go to a company sure but at least Sanders is actually by Funded by people right. So it's poor. People funneling all their money to rich asked media companies. No well it's not like the other guys who get millions from the call cock broader brother. I feel Bloomberg's funded by people to just one person can't be used people. Well at least I don't have to give him money faulk. At least you can buy his own adds money. Do people spend people saying that? Is like a defensive. Him is like oh well he spent his own money. So he's not beholden to anybody and it's like yeah exactly. He's not beholden to you like well. The money doesn't have to do with that. The President I mean most presidents. Aren't there too. I don't mean it in the sense of making money. No but but that's but because he's rich doesn't mean that he's not beholden to the constituents. I mean he's the same duty as any president. I mean on paper. You're right. Yeah I see people wondering if he should be allowed to spend this much on on campaigning. Well the best in my in my Opinion the best counterpoint and that he said look advertising's only effective to a point and then as a point just becomes annoying. So so you know yeah. He's he's a rich guy. That's how that's how it works. You can buy advertising but look ultimately Bloomberg does have experienced so he's GonNa do better than a guy like store who's like who the fuck is this guy. I mean. He was the mayor of New York stories. Just like out of nowhere. Like why are you? Are you even on the stage at all? Talking about stiers. Whatever Tom Store whatever fuck beca because what has he done? He's just a rich dude. I Dunno he's not our does so many reach people that are running. They often just one billionaire. If he's like. Hey I'm running. He's on the stage but Bloomberg's ads are story stores his at sucked he's because he has no charisma and he's like I I think Donald Trump is. I'm the only candidate thinks that climate change is our number one concern but Bloomberg actually smart. Because he's he's not charismatic guy and he's not really like impressive looking so he he's not in his ads he does like hit jobs on trump. He does jobs about he. I've seen commercials about gun control. He doesn't even show his face. He just goes. I'm Michael Bloomberg and I didn't even show his face just as voice. I mean that's smart. That is smart. He knows he's got yeah again. He's going to get on the stage and I think when people see him. I don't think I think Jay probably could. This is Bloomberg. I really do actually I. I don't know what he looks like. Even I mean I do use. I've seen him but I don't really know like I haven't seen him. You know on the debate so I don't know but trump calls them low mike because he's short short see. I didn't know that he gets. How tall is by? Its short for presidential candidate. I mean I mean it's a weird thing but all presidents are generally tall I. It's not like they leave but the reality is almost all president like just throughout history. Presidents are on average taller than ride short presidents in Israel. George Bush wasn't tall. Was He W Netanyahu's not that tall talking about America here. You like our tall men. Hell was George Bush W or senior both Let's see George W Bush is six feet six and his dad Seniors Heights is six two but we now we had someone that was five seven. Little Bitch trump. I think it's like six to Clinton is six to eight sanders six feet. Sanders is tall even at his age. Now he's probably got a Reagan six. Hang on hang on. Hang on keep going. We're GONNA find a short president who was always teddy. Roosevelt was Teddy Roosevelt Roosevelt. I don't think it was a tall guy who is Alpha's fuck though Cova Jar is Five four that's true. Teddy Roosevelt was only five ten I can't believe this is an article. Any closure five feet. Four inches is a pretty good size for a president. Okay well okay so so we went back to Teddy. Roosevelt was five ten but people were shorter back in the day. So you know that may have still been atr above average. So what do you make of that? I think it's like a weird primal thing that we looked to our leaders to be big people. I a Word Alpha thing yeah. I don't know I'm lane. Where so lame we've got a smash. The president was James Madison. Who is only five four but he was like one of the first. Yes what did back then Munchkins back? Then Oh you know what's interesting George? Washington was super tall for the he was like six to back. Then that was like a giant Let's see George Washington's height ever let me down it's not coming up with I remember Reading that George. Washington was of unusually large stature. Giving me all of these elevations for the city Washington Rosicky Bug Wok. Obviously about two inches. I mean that would be for. How much did you say six to six two but back? Then that would be here. It says six four I think he thinks the Six fours like Abraham Lincoln was six four. I believe that's true. Actually tall exceptionally tall. Yeah I don't know but there have been very few short. President says the average height of the I forty four presence is five foot eleven inches think would be above the average. That's how tall I am. President he just barely made the cut. Dude I wonder if you just twenty eight hundred Taller dudes have that like when you're like tall like that tall six to maybe you are like more confident or more aggressive. I don't know I think it just plays into the psychology and like how people perceive you but that probably has an effect on them I would never want to be. President would nightmare. 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I think that that was probably my favorite moment Are you able to find a link to that to that particular part of the episode? I mean I can dig it up time. Standard approximately where it is and then we've also got so you know. This is so weird that the at like three am the day we posted on Youtube looking at the stats and I go and I noticed that the video was yellow. And it's removed from trending. What what what happened. What did we say you know and Somebody sends me this. This screen shot and one of the subtitles pulled up here moment this so my rep at Youtube said that it incorrectly heard Papa or not publicity that they incorrectly heard a racial slur so when a video. Here's a racial slur. It's absolutely slammed. Views tank removed from trending. No ads is awful. That has never happened to us. And our nearly two hundred episodes ever the fact that I happened to Papa. John is so so bizarre after everything. He's been through similar controversies and then here mantras. Papa was skeptical but look like I'm not gonna read it but it's it has poppy here saying the N. word which is by the way since auto caption. Yeah and I think the auto caption. 'cause THEY HAVE RAIDERS REVIEW? Our two hour long podcast. I don't know how that's possible. I think the captions inform reviewer and then the reviewer goes and lessons. Oh Yeah you said no not even close I would have been newsworthy. Would've been talking about that. And not the forty pieces I tell you but so got publishing and by the way. Why are the captions displaying the n? Word UN UN right answered. That's racist of Youtube. What's Algorithm Yeah? I've tried those captions a million times. The auto generated ones. I mean is it ever usable like not forget accurate like even usable in the slightest like it's always nonsense is just. It's gotten a lot better over over the time has it okay. I do think so well now though before to word salad right now like if I'm watching some you know when you scroll over video on your homepage. It will auto play without sound and showed subtitles. So I've watched a considerable amount of of a video with just the subtitles so it has gotten better. I just can't believe that that happened on this guy who lost his company over that word. You know what they have to. I was like it must have been removed after I reported it and they fixed and everything but here it is still here watch they gotta be scrappy and again the the food. Whoa said they gotTa Take Care of the food holiday not fixing it. I don't know I mean they got to fix the issue that they're auto captains are just saying the N. Word Dude visit really make a really really good. You see it's good. It's super accurate. Show you can have no mistake. Means you want to Invest Cassini mistakes. We always wanted to be nuts. 'cause independent Pixel at one hundred percents make the best pizza visit right and we were public. We were big company but we always try to act like a family run business with regards to do. And that's what the Algorithm is pretty racist. Dude that's so far a hundred percent accuracy yeah path to the gotTa be scrappy and again. The the food is you know. It's funny. Did sound like it though. I heard it there but new here but obviously you got to take care of the rest of the sentence and you can ration- but then but if somebody went and then listened to. Oh yeah he said then. We're fucked this video. It's like you guys got the flag. The there was an N. Word took one look at it and saw it. Was Papa John There like Oh yeah probably I don't know but I do think somebody went and listened and the racist. I mean you need more oversight like food lie. If you'RE GONNA say that my irreputable channel on a two hour podcasts and Edward you better listen to it twice. You'd better see what's the context is for big consequence sequence but I it's funny because it almost sound like it was funny. I do think that And we were public. We were big company but we always tried to act like a family run business with regards to people and product. And that's what the independence do they have to they gotta be scrappy. And they've got an acre. The the food is the food. When you don't have it in front of you don't want to hear it. I think he's slipped two n word in their teens. No he obviously did but man. I'm just saying you better go double check. I sent you that time stamp video and discord by the way thank you. So here's my favorite. So there's like a whole pizza conspiracy. I said shut up youtube for you. Know screwing US over With that on on subset. Norma support the CONSP- pizza conspiracy. That blew me away. One thousand points people are rallying around the Papa. John's pizza conspiracy runs deep I agree so quick to remove us from trending. Oh yeah you know. I'm finally there. We are podcasts. Are never there ever gets a cool. We're on trendy three hours later sir. Any reason not only is it off but our whole videos and the dog house you know I gotTa Tell You. I have a real. I'm having very alive difficulties running the show here. We have a two hour long the chances that we don't get fucked for something and a two hour long episode. It's just it's it's like zero and it's just it's so tedious. You know if I was on television on radio focus on streaming any other medium. I wouldn't have to contend with this bullshit and like they they want us to make shows they want us to produce high quality content. But they're making us jump through the same hoops as nobody's uploading video for the first time. Yeah you gotTa have a different set of rules for us. Because I can't be here and produce high quality content for two hours With the conditions. I have I need somebody. Who's actually if if you're going to say that somebody all my pocket said the N. Word a removed from trending and reduce my views. You better have someone double check that shit before you fuck with me. Because I'm not I'm on you're trying to make high quality shit for your platform. Can you call the CY quality? Well it has equality. I mean it's on the spectrum. Something I get what you're saying though because I'm the one dealing with with you most of the time and yeah it's it's it's a surprise when we don't have an issue with it at this point you know and you know like Zack's been making these really funny cide parodies of Ian like Ian flow by Pearl Jam like even a flow and like these are so great we're putting effort into producing this great content yet if I put it on the air. We're not only going to get claimed. We might get blocked worldwide. Who Might Get the MCA D- they're gonNA. When I get claimed you can dispute the content. But they remove all the mid roles they can turn the ads off. I mean there's so many ways in which I can get fucked the block worldwide. They just take your video down and you can't dispute it. You do anything it was just GonNa say the block is just insane that that shouldn't be an option. I don't understand I mean I don't know if the fans understand but it's just it just takes it down for everyone it's just blocked and then it will be blocked for a few days. I've been rallying on Youtube about that and I think they're working on re on fixing that but it's extraordinarily broken right now who is more powerful than DMCA takedown which is supposed to be the ultimate form of removing content by license holders Because it's a legal document by youtube given this tool block worldwide. There's no legal consequence you don't have to fill out a legal document. It takes the video down everywhere and I can't dispute it takes. It stays down for three days. So it's more potent. There's no ramifications. It's totally beautiful. It's just the worst thing for creators right now on the platform. Also if you're talking about current events it can't just be down for three days by the time we will be back up. It's not real option. We have we have sponsors. We have a schedule down for three days. It's outrageous she ended up cutting it. You end up not doing this. You all the sudden you're cutting all the shit and all of a sudden you shows just not good. It's not as good. Yeah that's limiting to us. We have we keep having to cut stuff. We have a good idea and they're like we can't do. We have a segment. We removed the whole thing. We'd rather not you know it's it's not it's not right but I mean to look also at the bright side. There's no bright side we do get to just work ourselves. There is no Network to report to or you know it's I mean right work with us but they are kind of giving us notes and I do feel like at times more. Restrictive than any notes never can give us. It's like it's stupid. And there's no feedback you just kind of like navigating through some fucking algorithm elite. At least you're talking to a human being there. It's worse right now. It's worse there's no there's no joy. How dare you try to be optimistic? Where's the clip you sent? Dan adopted in dischord. I don't have this court open. What is Zack has gone today by the way he was puking in the office. Brose Corona virus here and gone to skeleton crew out with wild card. Because you're supposed to have found Wednesday so are they doing it? Valentine's Day Valentine's wildcard pretty epic Sax Having Beautiful Valentine's Day compute twice went home for though he's still came in. I sent him home. Get OUTTA HERE. Foss heavy like well. Here's some Alka Seltzer. Let's go Sarah's here the lovely Sarah worst yourself with the camera right off right off. Thank you Sarah Here is my favorite moment from the Papa. John can't rate this. I don't know why they don't cut it. You GotTa Watch Paul thing and don't cut us to build never break severson. That's actually on their website. We got some replies bullshit. They should cut it like an squares before ventricles of the heart. You stupid assholes yeah the anatomy. It'll would cut. Somebody's got to cut it down. That's what that is down in school. But you still gotta cut. We can't write this down. I didn't expect them to pick it up. Bob Deal that's amount of people right there then turns me on. Actually you know what the Papa Diop came and Ian Liked it. He's like I'm a fan of the puppet was like fish Burrito. I don't know you like all the weird burritos Burrito through the psycho field. Actually no it's funny We had Papa D. as we forgot to bring him out but when I looked at them. It's it's actually. It's nothing novel. It's literally just slow. Two slices closed in on each other. Like just man. Would they really forget to bring it out? I just felt like it wasn't that didn't occur word the I would have liked to get his. His person also fell back because it was a day old. Yeah I really want him to try that. That wouldn't be very Here's the thought. This was interesting because I want to analytics. I noticed that our views were like flat lining like the views were just really flat lining when when it went yellow. So here you can see it got classified as saying the N. Word and the views are basically about to taper off to nothing then here they fix it and it takes off again so it was really about to flatlined. Nothing I found this. Graph is not looking that bad dude. This it doesn't look back. They fixed it fast but if they didn't WanNA flatlined to nothing but there's no explanation for why this debt this like heavy curve here. I mean to me that's like I say it doesn't look that bad but I'm just saying if this one for another day it would be like flat. We would've missed our opportunity to get views but it was able to recover because they responded quickly so at least that I agree that youtube will fix it quickly. here's a great little video. Edit you guys might enjoy a fan made this. I heard I heard rumors that the phone made by status array on youtube deep cutting. Don't call for example. You got a copy of that. Is that true? Yes does it exonerate you? Yes Oh yeah can we hear it? I don't know if you can hear it. The company more myself didn't have the tape laundry service had the tape. The company got the tape within ten days. But they wouldn't let me hear the call the tape until the next year. Here's the beautiful thing is the. There's a tape from Edison College on that speech. Which is you can get that tape. If you want to see it I'll send you the transcript two thousand seventeen and there's a tape on the actually thank. God they got a tape. Protect me because I knew what I said was not. That was a good tape from. I mean I don't have the that was a little Little consistency there. And Papa story that I saw some comments on but I see I was wondering because he said I do have the tape. I have heard that. Hey and then later. He says I don't have the tape. I haven't heard the tape. I wonder if there was some legal. Like oh I can't say that. Yeah I think some that. That's what it is. Yeah he's always no. I haven't heard anything about the tape. Yeah that's what I anyway. Great stuff so we are moving on from Papa. It was a great time. It was a great moment. We will have. It will cherish it forever. Not This beautiful intro Peggy. Dan Let me get my thoughts together. Here yeah cute. So let's move on now. Ila. I've got. I've been surfing instagram and I it was the food people have captured my heart. The beauty people on instagram have now after my curiosity. I mean this is one of the weirdest videos I've ever seen in my life looking at the amount of attention that goes to an eyelash and ultimately for what. Oh yeah you got this music. Thank you for. I don't understand the benefit of this like okay so this is a floor after the after far because it never. It doesn't look any different but look how much effort goes into so they put like a guard below is I am on his eyelid like silicon and now they're brushing glue on on and brushing the eyelashes onto to glue more brushes. It's all going to just come out so now. She's brushing putting some kind of like looks like bleach China's eyelashes. Isn't this the eyelashes this is? Just I remember now. She's brushing. It doesn't have a lot of eye lashes too so if he's right what you do it. You won't really see much over. They've canceled it again. I cannot tell the difference between the beginning and the end but the amount of grooming the goes into these eyelashes. I mean it just keeps going. I know like glue and substance. And now they're it's they're dying it already block with your dying at black now. She's using Skara right now. She's wiping off the die. I mean it makes me feel. He's got to be getting that in civil. Yeah yes it's very I. I was just in shock watching this for the first time all of his eyelashes are GonNa fall out and then after all well. I don't know what kind of look. What is he doing now? She's scraping all this black shirt off. Shampoo. I think she's shampooing out. Nah probably a little island. Is You gotTa Watch it out conditioner? Condition his eyelashes. Yeah you see those are stuck on the right so that you had this in here and I watch it and I agree this. This video is insane. Something going so i. I don't know the clip of the girl who's like irony her hair and then it all off the big reveal after dislike thirty or step and I mean so he the guy coup by the way I thought it was a girl at first so get a look I mean it looks it looks. It looks exactly like nothing. Looks Kinda Weird Crabby? All the clumped. Yeah before I can't see and indifferent they should have got someone with more. I exact against anything anyway. That was a lot of football was just. I was just blown away by that. That is mind blowing taking grooming to that level. They're like we did the hair. We did the eyebrows but did the peel ABS. The ASS hair. What's left eyelashes the final frontier? Baby Push it all the way there. You have it from boys do it to which I'm assuming as a gay Beauty Flog for gay men to learn beauty chip seal. Why do sailing boys do it? Till what are you inferring from that be straight boys that wear makeup? Do Their eyelashes you straight. I would do that to his eyelashes Dan. You've just kidding me. No if you're straight and you do that you're gay now I'm telling you there's not no strings no matter how feminine. We'll go through that. I'm just being honest. Tell me you disagree. I don't call you video because you WanNa do it. That's what I was thinking is that we should actually. Can you imagine how out of groomed my whole everything is and then? I've just so focused on my eyelashes take that much effort. I mean sure I'll do it but it doesn't make me gay because I'm doing it for the show you just you just said dishes only Well that's what happens when you get. You gotTA help anything else. You Wanna add are worse off. Dick less gloomy version appeal but at the same time. Oh you know oh it doesn't work still thank you. You have the reverse. I need to turn it on. I feel like the video was in that game. You know there could be a all right. See these are fun buttons they. Are you guys want to review my bit? My Devil bit. Go ahead Dan. What did you think it was a little long dragged Could use less rations. You sound like a Youtube Com. Lots less I only did it like you did the sucking Dick and then it was to Dixie chicks and that's not true. I said sucking getting fucked in the ASS Bukowski. Those are all different sex acts. There was a there was a dig in the mouth and the ASS at the same time. Different sex act right. That was the two and then you said the Bukowski thing and you said three as well saying acid or three right I get it. I get it okay. How about this? How about this? So maybe that's the first one. I agree with that there. You go nuts better about here. Let me think of another game on. That is really about That's the gays thing dancing. So we taught me peaked there There's another one You know there's there's more without to me was was the best but if my eyes out but this is the kind of content that I go instagram. For this guy setting a he's just cruising on bouncy on like medicine balls seemed passed by not touching the ground he's like bouncing from one medicine ball rolling from one but metabolic. The other was a fifty or more awesome. I thought he was going to fall on his face. At some point maybe right at the end there. That guy has practiced a lot probably really hard to do. I think so so there you have it. It's got a whole group of fans who probably put this together for him trainer. Got You doing that either. Run round the balls just living in my face. I'm trying to think of something. That's Gayer than going salsa dancing with the platonic friends but I can't think of anything. There's nothing that might be pick. Oh you WANNA review memes. You WanNa talk about the sonic. The hedgehog gets the studio memes. America China Corona virus. This is what we wash of the town hall. The CASSANDRA vape nation would is from the mandatory. Cyber Twenty seventy seven game. That's come out. How am I supposed to know that because it says twenty seven? Okay it was. It was actually the microphone. Nash Cringe Busters just a photo shop phone cases. What that was but oh well pretty elaborate kisses you the way. Joe Biden kisses his granddaughter. Man What do you make of that either? A little weird. You can't kiss your granddaughter on the Lips. I mean this gotTa stop. It's gotTa stop at hurt. What this this. I thought I love where. Fdu STORE SPAGHETTI in it. You know. That's real come on even if you elect trump you gotta admit I should so. I don't think this is a photoshop. You WanNA twitter. So there's a photo shop. Your boy trump has got a fucking no. There's a million photos of them like nobody. He's literally he's he tweeted. This photo and said fake. Fake media is is Photoshop in my face. That's definitely not a photoshop. Is Makeup Sprayed Tin Man? This photo is incredible. Say Yeah it's gotta be makeup because that how can you achieve that photo like that is why I know? It's not photoshop. Amateur Hour You Gotta. I guess he is hair users coverage exactly. Let's make up. It's definitely make up. It looks like without makeup. Probably not good. Pale will old to just right. That's your boy right there. The main thing I saw a picture of him he's fucking enormous. He's like he's like a beast. I think he's morbidly obese. I saw like a really long suit today. I wish I could have the picture. He's like a houseman. Trump trump is is fat. What kind of images we got here. That's the man. Yeah you got a problem. He's the he's the size of a house and don't think so no. Okay Oh wait I just saw the photo I just was talking about the one with the face Over at mytalk get get off at Ethan. Slamming Interesting J. Station arrested for assault after faking girlfriend's death ladies and gentlemen okay. Whatever Corona virus outfit? Whatever this I don't know why this is here. I've seen a million times over that Papa. John Last Supper whatever. Whatever look before you come on the show I did. But what do you want me to do? They're not that good. I mean. Let's stop doing this then. You're always like you sake sucking. Look well they will. Sometimes they're good but sometimes they suck. Is that not part of the joy? I Guess Last Supper. I mean it's okay. It's not that good. You know this one. I don't even know why it's here watching Papago pound for pound with Ethan confirms he can eat. Forty Peterson thirty days. By the way he didn't go pound for pound. Who's taken by putting down? I definitely outclassed. It's not even be honest. Ten Point Pizza. Papa GIVE ME THE RISE. Baba the rise this. I did like this one. Thanks Dan obviously fuck you. Dan Tricia paid us and Dan. Let me get my thoughts together and let me give up altogether here. Yeah Zach on the soundboard. I finally have the Mall. And this guy's standard should we stop doing the memes? I mean I don't know I could be down to stop doing mems Philly debriefs the me. We were recently talking about how I'm the fourth most Click Bait youtuber affiliate of all time and he recently clicked Beta me. Really good. He said why people are freaking out about h h three on he briefly mentioned me talking about what was it. Bloomberg or something I dunno or Sanders endorsed Bernie Sanders and he goes. He showed picturing any said. Thanks for the thumbnail Bro. So there you have it and I said I said Phil. Thank you for keeping me. I needed to stay in that top five because my ego will be even get into the top five understand the top five we get into the stay of number four. Get in such a dish before. I don't know why you gotTa try to take that from me. Have you even if you take it from me? So desperately dad. Why don't you get the true count right? You're you're in the top five for youtubers. She the top count. If you want to take this from empirically proved damn that these other people like Lawrence. Okay I will I will. What's her name? Laura? What's her name. Jennifer Lawrence does not have because. That's what the person who did the crunching sided. There's no way Jennifer Lawrence has been more click data to me. It doesn't make sense so unless you want to get in the trenches and do the work as a giant celebrity. But how often does she is? She was in the news a bunch because she was involved with the fascinating thing. I didn't ask you two quick. I'll be delegated really That'd be really a real. That'd be really a inconsiderate. Look at fastening. Darryl do I even say no. There's no way that she's getting more thumbnails. If you want to say that I didn't get it numbers. I'm GonNa Crunch Okay until then Dan. You better fucking give it up book I can. I get you on tape like Papa right now saying that this using top five of everybody or youtubers. Everybody everybody of all time okay. We'll see what happens all time. Don WanNa Talk Shit. You bear back it up. Sunk the hedgehog reviews. Are we've been telling our scores when we fraught when we watched the original trailer? We're like Oh man. This is going to be like so. Let me one worst movies of all time and we originally guest on rotten tomatoes. I Guess Twelve Ila Guess Twenty Iran guest fourteen Danjus zero balls guess Anzac thirty five well sets. They redid the sonic and re released a trailer. We re issued gases. I guess fifty. You kept her guests at twenty and thirty six. Dan went from zero to forty. That's a quite an about face. Quite a flip flop and Zach went from thirty five to fifty five while the sonic movie is out and we have the Results so do. I have a drummer off still Dan. Are you going to see sonic tonight? I am going to see it. Jack said he was going are knows that was excellent doing any quarantine India the results. Are you ready? Are you ready as I predicted? They did go down from what it was last night. Everybody it is sixty sixty three percent so in the end not that interesting you know. I guess fifty I feel like I should one Kazak guest last night. He gets fifty five guessing one dollar prices right but ZAC wins. But he's not here so fucking you one so competitive. For no reason. I win. Audience Scores Ninety four percent. What yeah I mean. I think it's just. It's not even kind of being mean midnight showing that you know people around the block. I got to tell you. I bought my tickets in advance like last week and when I went to go buy it. There was literally no seat sold in the theater. I was the first person to buy and it was like. It's like a seven. Pm showing tonight well week ago. Let's see how many seats are like a APM show right now at the local. Sonic the HEDGEHOG. This is going to be interesting. Let's see let's look at the arclight. That's kind of funny because I don't think anyone will see it at the arclight. That's where I'm seeing eight. Fifteen eight fifteen Friday night. It's time to go to the movies. Right Yep Yep so let's say to adults big debut Jim Carey. You know she got to see this. It's totally available. The blue is available to take on. That is like fully available. Uh-huh that's the eight o'clock show. Sonic is not could not even pay Jim Carey. Driving covers acting costs. Let's check the This check your show. Arc Light at seven people gonNA know. Oh No this this will happen after you've already been there right as I don't want someone to go murder my producer. I need him. Yeah I mean a little bit more full but soon that impressed I mean this is opening night great I guess I mean Arc light though you want maybe the AMC is sold out. You know but ski. Let's be fair. Check a different theater. Regency Van Nuys. Plant check seven people like seven. Apparently this interesting I think so. I know you're coming from but I do think so. Fandango you cock sucker. They're making me like enter. My credit selection. See Really so hyped for this movie let that on the show but He's a sonic boy at heart. Fan of everything man. Just like Zach. Those two guys love. Everything's like Ian Loves Konya in loves ARIANNA GRIND ON DAY. Apparently he loved me enough to reach out in love Salmon Burrito Taylor Swift Taylor's Lynn loved me and you enough to reach out cold and Beg for job. When I've always wondered is he still has that reverence and love and I always try to get it from him but he never quite answers used to be. I wonder if he went and worked for Connie for your he must he would probably hate his guts. So I think I'm doing all right. Woody hate Kanye yes. Okay seems hard to believe that CARE. Turn on him. Yeah I just wish that you would look with the same reverence like what do I have to win hardback Jim Carey didn't interview that he's getting called. Metoo on now here. Let's judge for ourselves. He was trending. People are trying to Jim Carey for this comment and this interview. You tell me what you think about this alone already. Have my opinion. What's your opinion. That's bullshit you have a project you have prejudged. Oh we'll show has a bucket list after all you've done in your career and your life. Is Anything still left on your bucket list just you. It's all done now just own it and bucket bucket list moment in your life. What dumb question. Sorry he did not I. You know I'm not gonNA judge these circa interviews. Are Jim Nightmare right. I've been invited to do the show and I was like never it's awkward. You're just one of a million you're trying to be unique standout and you take a photo and you know. I Would Jim Carrey. It's like you're just like another face that they have to. Also you're forced to sit in front of a chore for Him. It's not so yeah he does do. He's there to see you know exactly also always liquor everybody up for these so like to loosen up or whatever so chances although Jim Carrey's like these guys are professionals you'd have to be a real dumdum to actually go there and get drunk. Well also it's like they`re. They're they're extremely wealthy. It's like open bar all at better drink. It's free booth just make it tolerable because it's a miserable thing you just sit there and do interviews over over again for ten hours. Yeah the same thing as you can get drunk but I refuse to go there and be like I'm so special on with Jim Carey. It's not like that. He hates you. You understand. He hates you and you will not remember you anyway. There's so many things honest to God. They just keep so anyway. Did you people were saying that. That was me to moment. I feel like he goes on to give us a real and so now so it. Kinda was just like making a joke so I didn't really have a problem with this on alternate explanation that he was saying to be interviewed by you. That's how I perceived it yeah 'cause even how it's done it was. I was just like a joke right like well obviously was joking. No I mean like if it's in what you're just said Kinda explains what. He was thinking as a joke but even if he meant I wanna be with you. I don't think yeah. I don't think it would say that if that's what he meant. Even if he did mean that is still not offended. Not I think that it takes like Fu instances. 'cause we keep going we've since you vin diesel visit him or Ben. Affleck like sexually assaulted someone. During one of these things. I was awesome to grabner tits or something. Was that the red hot chili peppers. There's been so many great ones I don't know but we've seen some where it's clear that it's not cool but as when I watched this I was like whatever clearly it just made a joke. Fun Come on I mean come on cannon why we even discussing this. I mean the way that he phrased it. It's pretty clear. The joke like the bucket list was being interviewed by you not sleeping with her but even if it was sleeping with her I mean. I'm still not offended. He's just goofing around. He didn't I think the main point is that you can see that. It's just goofing around. And then he goes onto like whatever back to the answer you know. It's not like he keeps actually being creepy about it. Yelich vin diesel was like. Oh my God you're the most beautiful girl in the world. I'm I feel like I'm in beautiful world. Didn't say right look I just beautiful Would you just send me to in the VIN diesel? One if you go back for a little for a little I watch it again. Fuck it did his boy make the sauce for never happened so many times. Yeah this outfit is so the chain either. Do you have any comments on the south? It's up there with Ben. Affleck STA too. I think that is the worst outfit ever. Plaid v Neck Super High. Cut off like. Oh my God there's no sleep at all with aviator sunglasses shirt for a guy is just on four gave unless it's a tank top and they're athletic or dads are different but the only thing we make the shirt worse if there was a Hoodie on it. It's it's already at that level of bad for me because it's got buttons and it's like plod Davor aviator glasses it's like serious chartres bubbling nicely because he has no hair. There's so much flesh. Feels like he's naked just so much fledged their skin. The Warsaw Voice. Listen to how. Am I supposed to do this? You look at this woman. She's so beautiful. Now that I think is really a drought. So let's let's go see that's an appropriate. My God look how we're talking to did that. He's not gonNA person you cut off the screen. Look Beautiful Jazz out. I love his voice man. He thinks the guy is just saying she's not beautiful so he keeps. Williams like look at her. Yeah she's like no no no no no she's fine yeah. She's not beautiful that you were like me. I'm get that drunk. You think you're being charming and they're laughing because it's awkward but you've your drunks you'd like get a little like you get like a drunk lobotomy. You just You let by you know. Um You know put on the outfit well. We don't know that but it was an his. They was in his suitcase. Or wherever you know he bought it sober presumably We got a soundbite. Something from the I love this. Yes Think she's flattered over it. She's over it. You don't think she wants to her job. She's trying to ask a question like you're not even thinking seriously. Yes not good content but you think that she she might go with him shh. Let's get interview Elise Joke. How severe when looking at such pretty. But it's not like it's not like you know what I mean. It's not like type or something. He's just drunk. She's like she's like she's attractive and he's drunk and he's all So He's in love with the he's such a he's like. I'm in love with the cocoa. Jesus That is such a trainwreck. How's this guy movie star? He's like a in cell and getting in so from VIN diesel engines. How do you? It sounds like somebody. Pitch Shift is voice in his throat. Also Roach sexes. Now I can look. He probably does get goes off. He doesn't have to like when he's going down on girls he probably didn't have to like do you know Kind of lingus. He just goes in. The vibrations are so deep and like it's so vibrating. Probably just get them off just as voice read and write in there just. He doesn't have to do anything he just goes All and it's like so basically you know when you turn the base up and shit like crazy it's probably gets woman all He goes He goes my voice. Mike what's wrong everyone? Beautiful Psyche can't even do an interview with her thirty. The beautiful window on twitter world has got to be the worst line food. He thinks he's so charming right now. That's the worst part that turns me on heart. Vin DIESEL. Always fifty two. He's still doing too fast too furious. Hell yeah maybe the most advil. That's the end of the interview. That's all she got. I think someone was like all our time is up because she was like she nodded. Because you only got two minutes with them. She's she's she's like thought about this. She's planned. She's prepared. Should you may have him flown in from Brazil for this interview and then what sits down in front of her drunk VIN diesel. Suv This for ten minutes to tell me about yourself. She's GonNa take that back to Brazil. Never work again so what you get we send you out to La those a huge expense for us. You know he's got felt that my throat for a week doing all right. Bloomberg here we go. Let's get into the Bloomberg whole we've talked about fucked Jerry here. We've talked about Fuck Jerry on our on our channel They're behind this. I knew it from the minute I saw this because he posted on Fuck Jerry but he also posted on all the top Nima counts. Let me show you what went down. Let me show you the WanNa Fuck Jerry specifically Wykeham their navy. Fuck Jerry and. I can't even say their name without might fail fucked. Jared actually probably yellowed on this highlight because you just said fuck in the why. Why can there namely Fuck Jerry? What am I doing wrong? Turn this into instagram. Tv The one thing. I have thought about though with what I don't know I don't WanNa do it and I'm far from it but like what can you do a subscription based thing or it's behind a paywall? I mean that's so lame it feels so lame. I don't know it's not anything. I'm really seriously considering but it's just like at a certain point. You WanNa make a high quality show. You can't do it here. That's where show socks on my fault. Goes Hello Jerry. My granddaughter showed me this account. Your memes are very humorous. Can you post game that lets everyone know? I'm the cool candidate. What did you have in mind? When you're the candidate goof. That will cost like a billion dollars. What you're Venema. And then. They says he does look pretty cool. And yes this really is sponsored by Mike Bloomberg I conduct. It was real until I saw that. They said that it's real well. Then you realize yeah. So what do you think happened? He has like a media kind of like the laundry company. Maybe everybody in the industry. Yeah so the lady except me. We should approach mean pages. Everybody in the media. I mean it's insane. The amount shameless. It's like three hundred million dollars and a quarter. Everybody media is now. Were just working for him. I wonder what ungodly amount of money got for this too. It's like oh Mike Bloomberg Yeah Double the price. Why hasn't Mike approached me? I want some of that Bloomberg money. You know what I'm saying. Where's your main page? This is way better than me page. Would you do a Sponsor for Michael Bloomberg. I don't know half a million bucks Bloomberg money. He's like here's a half million dollars. Here's what I would do. I would say yes Mike Bloomberg. I'll take your money. I'll I'll say I'll say your name will say I've been paid to say that Mike Bloomberg is this. I've been paid to say Mike. Bloomberg is that These are not I. I'm not endorsing Mike Bloomberg. I've simply been paid to tell you what they did here. Yeah but I like this is They're saying he's cool. Mother saying it does look pretty. Yeah but their their Meta. It's like a Meta endorsement. It's like they knew but they're not really like endorsing. And it's a cosign. It is kind of a cosign. So what you described that you would also be a coastline. It would be it would be ultimately sold out virtually. Yes for half a million bucks. I'd yeah you wouldn't do it for a million bucks. Were hanging out and burn. I'm feeling the burn. I'm feeling I'm furring the the burn of five hundred thousand dollars in my pocket. It's not burning a hole right there anyway. Pretty shocking stuff here. Yeah but you know I'm just it's like what am I. What am I clearly? He had nothing to do with this. He's an old guy doesn't instagram. He has nothing to do. So what is the granddaughter? Story made up. Yes well each one you see. What was he goes? Here's one on I don't know whatever trash can Paul. I don't know what all this shit is. A lot of them are owned by Jerry. Hello Paul congratulations on your followers. I actually have my own mean page. Just starting out. Don't judge trying to get my numbers up. Would you be interested in joining a like for like group with me and some other candidates okay boomer and yes this really is sponsored? They're all being kinda like fine. Because you have tonsured. They're not you have to be met otherwise it would be a disaster but you have to understand that. I just can't believe that we've come to this. I guess that's what's really shocking but fight I mean fuck. Jerry's like presidential candidates sponsoring means. He's reaching people where they are. That's what they said it's not wrong. Fuck the fact that Jerry is doing. Their media is just makes me sick. The these guys are still doing. There's just these guys are just unscrupulous. They suck they suck the fire festival. Yeah they did the fire festival. They've been stealing means before that they suck like imagine being the Bloomberg deciding. Yeah I want the fire festival guys. They produced the document. They produced the documentary the documentary on the fire festival and then when it turned out to be a scam which they knew it was. They sold it to Netflix and produced a exposing fire festival. Well they did more than just the documentary. They were doing the marketing for. They weren't involved as if somehow they twisted their advantage and and ended up. I don't know man the so shaded. They made that documentary like no. We didn't know anything they minimize. Turn involvement Because they're deleting comments on on Instagram fuckers anyway Mike Bloomberg. I was on the phone. I'm going to be honest was on the fence about Mike. Because I'm Mike. He does have experience. I'm out Mike's out. From after the ship any association with fucked Jerry's dead in the water anyway I've endorsed Bernie Sanders officially. Yeah come on. I am endorsing Bernie. Sanders for president is Dillard David of Version of a president Larry David we must get the one percent Mike. Blue Book is in the top one percents of one percent. We must get fifty percent of that one percent give it to the bottom ninety nine percent and then thirty two percent of all young people on student debt. We're GONNA take twenty three percent at turn it into zero percent. Then fifty percent of the nation will be rise out of poverty at the top. One percent will be forced to pay for the healthcare. I endorse Pretty Sanders. For President. Thousand Dollars and twitter was big news. Wow even client. You made it into frank video right. It's big news so they're younger in the thumbnail of the thumbnail baby is title was people are freaking out about three. It was like wow. That's nobody's freaking out. I'm always surprised by his thumb his titles. Like nobody's freaking out. He used that so much as I come on do not. That doesn't work. You can't keep saying people are freaking out. I don't think you can really criticize titles anymore. After the approach that we've taken jugs films Announced that is having a baby. I mean I I see what you mean I mean. Obviously it's like a look cheeky. I hope that comes across to people that ask titles like we're trying to be funny just entirely. I mean it's just I mean I think we're trying to be a little cheeky. But this whole thing of saying like -ironically people are freaking out like when are people actually freaking out like one. Can you warrant saying that people freak out over should all? The time is just people whose people I think ranchos onto and I think a freaking out I mean. That's that's extreme. That's like what people do when there's a shooting duck. I'm freaking out like you're running and screaming. That's freaking out right like nobody. Nobody freaked out about me endorsing Bernie Sanders and he does freaking in all caps. Who when do people ever freak in all caps out Pearl Harbor Nine eleven People don't freak out in all caps. They may freak out about gay jokes today. I doubt we'll see those those I'm working on. Those numbers is a wildly irrational reaction or spell of behavior. Is the dictionary wildly irrational wildly irrational? So the fact that it's wildly that extreme behavior freaking out is like Portugal hole in the wall. It's not just being like a but I doubt people did that anyway. What do you think about Mike? Bloomberg Buying media on main pages Dan We live in. Hell is a an awful. I mean fuck all these new pages anyways content. We've for reasons. We've litigated on this show in the past But Yeah I mean you know it's just this is this is just disappear like it's just it makes me feel so bad spray. People are following these pages ships soup like all the famous people. Follow all this stuff. Yeah one of the. Here's here's all. The members involved is called mean twenty twenty. They started a new company. So stupid. Right which we found out you mean. Twenty twenty is Most of the executives from Jerry media apparently the main do Elliot whatever? His name is is Is technically not part of this. Whatever yeah yeah exactly well cares. He's there all. These guys are in on it together right. Don't you feel like you're being pandered to like? These guys are not funny if you watch them in their documentary. They're not funny at all. Like don't you just feel so Pandita mean twenty twenty. It's like when you are. You can't monetize memes otherwise just not funny anymore me. Twenty twenty guys trying to businessmen and every one of them that they used was white people humor so Mike Bloomberg bought a media buy on white people humor so to him. And do you even lift so there you have it. Congratulations Mike Bloomberg. He's GonNa spend like a billion dollars in not for like nothing. Yeah it's crazy crazy on all these people just so much money to be made so there you have it Mike Bloomberg said. Here's their statement on the matter. You can tell me what you think about this. Hildalgo Mike Bloomberg. Twenty twenty has teamed up with social craters to collaborate with the campaign including the maim world. Sabrina sink senior. National spokesman for the Bloomberg campaign said in a statement while a mean strategy may be new to presidential politics or betting it will be ineffective component to reach people where they are and compete with President. Trump's powerful digital operation. See it's so it's so cynical it's because some focus group. They realized that in two thousand sixteen trump like one the memoir so to speak like his supporters all the four Chan people and everything like had that kind of organic internet support happening for him and just like everything in life. He thinks he can just by that. And what does he do? He goes in hires. The fucking fire. Fest. Guys just like the most incompetent lowest common denominator shit me murders out there to be like to just kind of like artificially give him what he perceives trump to have. And it's like it's not gonNA fucking work it's just GonNa make people think that you're a loser like well already seen like the the backlash to it as bad like all of the other like all the mean pages on instagram. That aren't a part of this. Just dogging on all these pages now so I mean I who is this even for like who's going to support Bloomberg. I think you're wrong because the initial post like on Fuck Jerry. I saw everybody thought at first before people started making fun of it. I saw everyone thought it was hilarious and a lot of people in my friend network were liking it and commenting and doing laughing emojis friend or like. I saw people like that. Do you think that they thought it was fake? Though no I think they thought it was real and that it was funny shoes but the big difference between trump is that it was a grassroots main campus. Exactly and so. It's so trump but like that shit was that she was funny like because trump is just on twitter all day and he's good at it to media right and hit the Shitty tweets. You just saw rage funny. It's just so ridiculous but Mike Bloomberg I know had no involvement doesn't understand social media right and this isn't something he cares about while trump is on social media. He's a he actually means hard poster. Yeah and and it's a grass roots campaign so it's the difference but but that being said it does. It did seem to work because before like go. Go to one of the Herald. Let me let me Fuck Jerry. And like giving for example The reactors there that was the other aspect we didn't mention is that most of these pages are private normally But I think as part of this they were paid to become public to get as many is on it as possible. Follow them to to see. He went private like that. Only after. All the backlash yeah. It wasn't always like that. It wasn't always so so. The Post has four hundred fourteen thousand legs so lot and like clapping and smiling laughing emojis. Wilde's the choices clear. Oh Boy Tom Sawyer. Peres kinkaid and not like this. You know what they're doing. They're flooding the top with Their own mean pages Criticism they can remove always They come up big accounts. Well we know Dave from of comments before thoroughly would But just for example I mean look. How is normal posts? Do actually the only videos now for some reason because OAC yet. So here's a normal post from the next day afterward and it has a three hundred sixty thousand likes. Do you know what's so embarrassing. It's just a stolen tweet. From this person they barely keep the name in just so that they can say they get. They cut her face out and barely left the twitter name in and cut it off kind of. Katy Perry comments on it goals. That's what I mean. That is so weird to me. It's not even there's it's not even their content goals. Katy Perry said I mean what is wrong with you. Why would you? What all crushing wait. What the fuck you know. Here's a picture from a week earlier. It has two hundred and thirty thousand views. Army likes so yes so that one was really high performing Crazy these guys are really like bottom tier shit tear all the hoops. We have to jump through here and these guys just put the fuck they want. There's no rules even as fuck in his name. All the should I have to go through fate. It's facebook I mean men they I mean. Facebook is the enemy of the people. As far as I'm concerned they're moderation is just not not moderation. Care like what's with these brands on Youtube. Look oh well we took the Branson. Meanwhile on facebook there. Cpm's are insane and they don't give a fuck about anything that's on their platform theoretically do removes stuff. Theoretically but yeah. It does seem like it's a lot. Well we have to protect our parents. Meanwhile facebook livestream of alive shoot us live streaming a person going on a mosque and murdering people. Uh like no one cares. Keep the ads going. Keep the ads going. We have to protect our public. John said the N. Word. We're going to remove your video from trending oh he didn't whoops live streaming a school shooting. Oh Keep Dad's I'm sure that dig it taken down. I would hope that got taken yet but The platforms fine. You happened. That happens on Youtube. The platform gets taken down. Everybody dies facebook Facebook feed. Were they kidnapped? Some kidnapped a trump supporter who is like low Iq and they held him Ramona as a hostage and beat the should've been tortured him on facebook. Live Oh yeah. It's fine the platforms. Fine there's no problem there. Let's keep ads running. This is why we need young because I feel like someone like him might actually enforce something. Well I'm hoping that Bernie will have a cabinet position for Yang Technology sector notes. Oh we gotta keep up we gotTA keep a low. I Q individual captive and torture them live. But you're CPI BRO. Shall we say that Yang dropped out in case than anyone? Oh Yang dropped out. Saturday was pretty sad. Yeah he didn't just. He had his moment but people just I don't know for some reason I mean he was on the stage. He had a really good performance. And I don't know just. He had his moment but I think people never took him. Yeah I hear a lot of people say maybe next time. If he runs again cut it. He came out of nowhere. You had a much bigger mountain to climb than a lot of the other candidates that are public and well-known vetted and everything I mean he literally came out of nowhere and did really well for himself. Considering that I mean polling above I mean he outlasted. Us senators and like Beta rourke and camera Harrison like all major political figures. I mean what's it? Beethoven about is the name Beta or Beta Aurora. Ooh Shit those twenty. I agree and there's a world of opportunity now for Andrew Yang. So so he's going to be good. He's going to be just fine This quarter he spent this quarter alone. He spent two hundred million dollars in total. He spent three hundred ten million on advice. You're talking about Bloomberg. Yeah back into that. Everyone else included including trump one hundred fifteen. That's what blows my mind. Is that when you you're even including the other side of these still outpaces by so much? He has accepted no donations. He is the ninth richest person in the world. Well fuck me to that. Level of wealth is just on God that he's right behind the Hawk actually Fifty seventy seven. Can we get all these old Fox Outta here? God Schwann a young guy to be president. It'd be nice. Jeff Bezos is far and away number. One they younger guys are like somewhere like Zaken Bezos. They're thinking to themselves. We already run the country. We don't need your presence liability. Yeah the Bloomberg was bored. He's like I'm retired. I got another. Let's look look at this Jeff bezos number one with one hundred thirty one billion bill divorce or this is from two thousand nine some two thousand nineteen nineteen might that network might be pre divorcing so. I think that's probably still being litigated. Probably will be. That's a long process. I think he's GonNa be right back on the top even if he even if he thirty billion and the divorce he's still number one cut much thirty billion. You still get dirty because I remember hearing that she got thirty billion dollars you see these rankings are from two thousand nineteen but I think they're from earlier in the year. I just pulled up a thing because I thought I remembered in. Yeah sure enough I think because of divorce and everything Bill Gates has topped bezos. Bill Gates is now the richest person in the world again. Not for a long loser. Bill Gates has a Cool Ninety six point five billion Warren Buffett. Eighty two point. Five Billion Bernard Amel that losers always French. But I think that's the guy who owns Louis. Vitton yeah all fashion companies. Isn't that crazy cheese? That's the case for they own Spanish guy on there. Too is Louis Vitton by this company owns like now on every brand about regions pretty shocking Corpora- Let's see Subsidies this is gonNA blow your mind. Fendi Marc Jacobs Louis Vuitton Kenzo Vinci. Fendi they have fancy infant near fantasy. Your Riana those are all huge brands. Tiffany and Co they own bogery do their portfolios crazy Hennessy alcohol mom I mean. There's there's like actually like fifty companies here Christian Dior Emilio Pucci. He very there. Everything is all really big brands in Mexico. Carlos Sim Connecticut Sixty four billion. Was This asshole do Mexican? Business tycoon. Investor Philanthropist I love other philanthropists like yeah I would be too if I had sixty billion you know what I mean. He's a philanthropist. Fuck off you should all over. The Earth make sixty billing out three to make sixty billion dollars just by the very nature of it seems like the shittiest billionaire. Jeff bezos is by far the billionaire. I don't anything about this guy and you know we've had discussions about good Bill Gates. I like Bill Gates. He's donating his wealth when he dies. Jeff bezos is a fucking sleazeball. At least give your employees like air proper bathroom break. You know just sounds like one hundred thirty one billion just spread. Just take ten of that and spread it out. Let employs a little more. Your margins can be a low tighter. You can afford a dude. He just bought the most expensive house in Los Angeles. It's all over the news hundred sixty five million dollars for him and his girlfriend. It's so lavish it's like Brocchi not flex just by the second most expensive. I think it's more I think it was the biggest Residential real estate purchase ever in the country saw thing sixty five now record-setting. Yeah and by the way at do Do crunched this. What is one hundred sixty five million dollars? As a percentage of one hundred thirty one billion few hundred thirty five million hundred sixty five million. That's what the house cost. What percentage is that of one hundred thirty one billion big numbers? Yes big numbers. Don't forget digit. How many billions hundred thirty one billion? Jesus fucking Christ God I mean it's what point one two percent. It looks like point. One per two percent seems high. So it's like a tenth of one percent right. You think sounds high you know if you have a hundred so you said you said it's point one percent so point one percent of one hundred thousand dollars to put it in context if you have one hundred thousand dollars that's like spending one hundred dollars. He bought the most expensive house ever sold in this country life. There's probably some castles in Europe or some shins hundred dollars. One hundred thousand God. Damn this disgusting. Jeff Bezos is and meanwhile. It's like enjoying her all you all right. I like it and I I like it. I don't like it Bloomberg Ganga's out I endorse Bernie Sanders. Amber rose got a tattoo on her face. That may arrival Ben. Affleck ULTIMO. What you think. Check it out. It says does not it doesn't. That's a fucking huge Tattoo on afford this has bat it says Bash Watch. I don't like it. Go ahead and explain that why that's not worth I don't like she says she's been making comments about she. Says beauty is not. What's on the outside? It's what's on the inside accounts inside my pussy. Anissa my heart. She said it's funny words of wisdom. She says she goes on for the people that are telling me. I'm too pretty for face. I didn't say that she's not pretty well. She's a little she's better days. What's Brady got so much posturing surgery? I mean. Now that I mean well. That's like a highly highly photoshop. Imager like Lear Michelle. What's up what's really going on with their Daily Mail. Oh My Gosh. Dating the joker. I mean she's kind of a mess from being honest into ours. Yeah you went well. I'm not really okay. Maybe I'm being too harsh. I mean it looks to me like she's wearing a I mean she looks insane. Malic firing either flutter. She's wearing like a leopard skin. Trash bag. She looks like she looks. Like when you pull the me undies. All the way up to your chest I by the way I always wondered is the arms attached to the body or as a separate attached house attached. What do you make of this Alpha? I think anything got to tell you I got a break to go ahead and got a break. Heavy here trump talking by amber. I didn't call her fat. Are you saying that you know? Sometimes people get all this plastic surgery and it makes and they don't age gracefully. She's a pretty girl. Would you fucker? I'm not into girls. No go ahead. You're making a point just saying you know. Sometimes we just got a thirty six years the same age as me two years older. What what say say. Say literally what you're trying to say. Just you just gotTa look at yourself and Go ahead that's it Well I didn't call her fat. And by the way trump. She's not fat in color. Fat Trump has made fun of people for being fat because people found all the time and I do think it's slightly ironic and funny that he is a big fat so that is true. That being said I mean yeah. I'm I'm fat I used to. I'm a monster. What what do you want me to say? You want me to say but but the fact that trump is actually Like enormous is funny because he makes fun of fact he makes fun of People's appearance. He's like a bowling tries to hide it by wearing these ridiculous lawsuits. But he's huge. But I feel like in her case. She's making a good effort to look good. You know it's not really like what did I even say again I? I don't remember I was just making fun of her face that I guess you said. She's she looks beat something. I don't know she looks good. I do think it's my take. You could say the same thing about me. But that's my point but I guess I'm not getting fit. Let's talk about the facetime. You think I'm being do you think I'm being Sexist no okay. Not Sexist judgmental. Yeah overly judgmental. Yeah she'll be. I'm just trying to throwing over the comment. Her Tattoo looks ridiculous. But I mean it you know without the Tattoo. I don't think there's anything wrong with pretty lady okay. She's ruining with the Tattoo. I Yeah I agree I you know I. Even that is subjective. Yeah I suppose I don't think so. Gosh I mean but then she goes on to explain she says for people. Tell me that I'm too far too pretty well. Don't you think that's just a little arrogant on far too pretty for face that I don't see people saying that okay seat? Then we're live okay. She's way too pretty for a face that anybody's way to pretty face tat. That's the point. We all beautiful snowflakes and we should. Nobody should have faced all to beauty. I'm way too pretty for faced at are the same people that tell me. I'm too pretty even if they thought I was ugly and lied to me law. No grammar let me low or they would just tell me. I'm ugly ha ha so either what you're GonNa do the Mola's stories do whatever the fuck you want in life move mover Ma Ma so it says bash slash and her kids knaves you. Oh I didn't know bash short per Sebastian. And then her other kid is just named slash which is a little odd. I mean I don't like that too but I don't think a lot lately so I do think it's just a matter of taste. I don't think necessarily this one is bad. We've seen way worse in my opinion. Okay well I have another one that you can judge Chris Brown and of Chris Brown recently got a face Tattoo. This is a trend is a fad. This faced at things. I I think people are Gonna. We know who started it? Our friends and definitely popularized the face and in his case. I've gotten used to seeing them. I mean I guess. He didn't start at night popularized. I would say it but like now. You Got People. Chris Brown putting sneakers this one. I don't like it looks like facial hair is really dumb. Y Shoe Chris Brown shoe nights. It's Jordan when I hear you Well you gotTa shoe and your faith whenever I hear Chris Radio. Skip it off so hard such a Douche criminal designs bad worse than bash slash. Yeah I just hate how. It's part of his facial hair me too hort but I also hate that. It's just a shoe like with Kobe. I mean the Air Jordan actually hurt to coby. She did after what happened to him. And his daughter choose inspired. Yeah face TAT Had some other in the dock that were inspired by toby. But yeah if you scroll down I mean increase bones case. I don't know I I really don't like it. It's like literally just shoe on your God. Aaron Carter such assistance awful. Think we've seen this on. No it's like. Why don't we looked at it on the show on the show? Yeah what a mass brawl left. Mess did no matter. What kind of trivial can like sophisticated glasses and slips? Your life is always a mess bro. Forever Guitar and this case it also looks like it's bad like drawing what is going on there. It's just a fad. I hate to say about this whole face. Dot thing people are going to be having a lot of Gretz ten years from now I think bashing slashing Black Mama. Fuck is wrong with you. Thank you for this. No Dan he wrote. Amber rose is a model and actress. So thing where that the at the end of this. There's a bullet point. Ambrose model and actress a lot of times. We're talking about these people. I know she. I would look it up for putting using the store. Okay speaking of trump. Tell me if this is peak insanity or not. Just watch this. Press Statement of trump by the way means Pecan consensus in China for drugs. By the way means That's serious they getting maximum penalty. And you know what? The maximum penalty is in China for that and it goes very quickly. it's interesting. We have Singapore. They have very little drug problem where you have. China have drug problem states with a very powerful death penalty on drug dealers. Don't have a drug problem. I don't know that our country is ready for that but if you look throughout the world the countries with a powerful death penalty death penalty with a fair but quick trial. They have very little if any drug problem that includes China Sin Criminal in China for drugs by the way means Love that serious. They're getting a maximum penalty. And you know what the thought. And why is that maximum sanity? He's admiring countries who execute Drug dealers quickly fairly. Well doesn't shock you need. I don't know he did so much. That shocked me already did. I'm just relieved. The executing drug dealers. That's insanity though I sold drugs should mean you'd be executed right good point good point now. We're now we're god-fearing citizens. Who Bear taxes? God Fair. Well it's just what you say. Good citizens fear God and pay taxes. This is the voice of what did they call the tax issues ship. Hey arose boy. You know the drill outer shit just west military rupp ship we spent billions of dollars in Iraq disappear. Irs Ladies and gentlemen is this is calling always on scam likely that I don't answer the IRS. From India Blue Mr plane or your ten thousand dollars you everybody's getting these calls you call. You're going to present you've got a president or you pay a thousand dollars. Have you seen that Guy twits dreamer. I think his name's Kubota. Yeah yeah he's awesome. Oh my God. It's unbelievable I wanted to get him on the show but yeah Pranks them like Sterile environments on his computer and lets them hacking and he puts like nude picks and sometimes you reverse it on them to the extent that he's able to get into their computer and like delete their file. No Way Yeah Yeah. Some of them are just unbelievably satisfying to watch. Excuse ME MR client. Hi this is Mr Smith from the. Irs Fuck you guy. You Owe US ten thousand. Yeah it's like that people like oh like old people Though like I and the only way to pay us to go to you by send US dollars starbucks gift cards you must go to Western. What is it called the like? The money grand`place Western Union. You must go to Western Union at Twelve PM and pay us by Western UNISOM anonymous check cashier's check. It's so absurd because it's so crazy that it's like who would ever fall for this but then you realize there wouldn't be thousands of people. Doing people weren't flying for it all the time. Well let's just old people I don't said it's about my grandma. They go really they go. Someone like who got my Info New? My Grandma's name and my name they. Hey Grandma this is ethan. They don't like me. It's not me I'm trapped in Mexico. I got busted in Mexico on energy to send me three thousand dollars to bail me out but why didn't call my parents my siblings while my calling my gramma why Mexico. And but she was ready to do it but my brother was living with her at the time and he intervened nice. But that's a classic scam where they right just praying. Old People seems to be that old piece of fucking old that you can't even make sense like you and you're like oh my grandson. It's like came. Imagine being in that state of mind we so global. It's like You Really Slip Mentally. If you fall for that Shit I guess so. You can just so fragile. Everything is like you just kind of like an survival sucks. Yeah fucking sucks science. You got like home. I'm thirty four. I figure I'll probably lose. Start losing mental capacity around eighty. You got like forty five years to figure this shit out Ethan just exercise. I'm like fuck you toying with your microphone or something Of Sorry I was smoking ban here while we've done it all. There's a lot of others like small. Shed let me see if there's anything good her No just now. Yeah all right two hours you know. That's it that's it go we've Cam we've seen we've talked we've lyft. We've cried a home about our guest next week. Who beauty by people be joining us. Now I'm GonNa tell you guys feel. We had to podcasts in a row that we had to cancel. So I'm just going to start saying that pupae outside at the top of every episode as a gag so you guys that made it to this far no what that gag is about and everyone else will be confused. So I'm just going to start saying sorry. Pupae WE We had to reschedule at the top of every episode from now on because this could have announced it so many times that Let's just make it a gag so next week is at all back to normal schedule too. Many guests Dan. Yeah we appeared coming on. Oh well okay but for real No no guests On the books next week we just had a slew of them and going back into a normal. No not a couple of weeks. We have Oliver Tree coming up. I don't know when that is who should I reach out to trying to get Gary Spivey? I saw that that that would be so. That would be really cool. Would be really and we even have Gary Spivey costume that we brought. It would be the best just stares at me all the time If you guys have suggestions I'm looking for interesting X. factors little off the beaten path. It's gotta be someone who is like approachable. You know 'cause Oban famous we don't have Agencies to reach out I mean. We've been having a lot of luck dial. Yeah we do. Brussell brand responded. He's got them on right. No we I feel like I can. We can pull. We can pull pretty high but if they like someone like Gary Spivey is good idea why we saw that big kind of thing. There's like unapproachable. I won't carry a spivey agree but we can pull. Hi How are you say she s and then as I see people suggests of the like we don't really we would love to have number. Oh well well some people. We've tried like Eric Andre of tried. Yeah people always suggests the same way I mean. I WanNa Eric Laundry Punches. You guys do but little is just not that twitter conduct keep saying little. Nice eivind a little mouse. Follow me on twitter. I was like cool and I. I asked him if you WANNA come on. He didn't answer so I'm just GONNA I'M NOT GONNA obviously keep pushing it. That guy dedicated man. He's on every post with a customized icon. This has got a little house on the PODCASTS. If we do get him on credit him we have to. I like little house. Though aren't their character. 'em seems like more than anyone. He's enjoying his success. You Know Billy Irish will be awesome. She Has Toronto. We have so much like that's such a thing to have in common. I never had a conversation with anybody about that. Come on. That's a lot to make. Fun of my techs. No no no but billy I'll be great. You can just come up sometimes and sometimes it makes sense and I asked all right. Let's go teddy fresh and do work now so never ending. How long are we going to be there today? GONNA have a meeting or is it more hours probably a few hours a few. It's already two o'clock. Are we going to be there for a few hours? What's if you smart? You is like three or more. We have to leave by four thirty. Go your mom is with. I can't be there till five. I can't I wish we took crisis. Now it's not this is good shit. Don't end it well you can over. Maybe because I'm just so maybe you can over. It's my car it is. You're taking rethinking hours. I'm Sodas Ofek rarely talk for doing that. Vin diesel my throat is fully thrown legitimately hurt exercise. Why are you so tired? Performed for two over two hours. Did you secure on the Super Bowl? I'm sure she was tired as well. Fine but didn't you performance this. I saw it. So what not impressed hosting a podcast or two hours twice a week. Very impressive what do you want? I'm not. I'm not doing a song and dance a mentally off. I was prepping late into the night last night. I've been doing vin diesel impressions all day. Stop Sunday beautiful world all right. Well let's go see what we can do. And then hopefully we be like okay. We thirty no because we have the meeting. What in you have to do design or you have to do the design stuff. We have a top secret something going on that. I can't mention but it's super super super super exciting exciting levels on this thing. I can't talk about one to ten ten yet. Attempt fucking epic. Nothing you see for a long time but the one that they are gonNA see soon is pretty awesome. We can say what it is now. People Bob Club super go is happening and coming out and two weeks two weeks. It's coming up on the twenty seventh right. Yeah nothing is going to sell so fast because it came out really good and we didn't get as much quantity as we should have for some reason but it came out. Great like it's a really good collab- really exciting now. I think that's why we're also Darlie. It was really hard working on that one. Because it's like the new one or the old one. Spongebob Yeah so much in preparation like or can with this. Big corporations have to approve like every little thing God but anyway it's been worth that once we're used to the process. It won't be so bad we have. We're getting more people and more processes in place so it'll be easier in the future. The first one's always the most tedious. But this one this new one I mean. Spongebob is is a licensing deal. This one is a straight up collab- with the difference. Well so a licensing deal is that we're paying a royalty to spongebob for using their intellectual property in our designs. Okay but this one is a collapse in that. It's like working together on designs and production. I mean it's it's a hole through through Collab- Gotcha with one of the I don't want to say. And but we're burning the candles on both sides egos up very late or can harm teddy fresh daddy. Fresh Ted fresh and Theodore was in there with markers he's already going to wants to touch all my stuff and drought cannot wait metro together. Mitchell saying that there's You can get like baby markers that toy. That sounds like that. Yeah that sounds really cool. I seriously cannot wait to draw with him because it's going to be so fun. He's GonNa love it. He's going to be awesome little artists and they come up with all this crazy stuff because a house with imagine finding can wait all right onto our onto our a second job for few hours. Apparently so are they then. A two o'clock right now keep explaining how workdays ultra music for the second time by everybody knew.

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"This is a head gum. podcast everything podcast about everything. I'm one of your town and I'm Tim Tim. How're you doing? This tweak bad why he doing that. I'm getting menaced by a squirrel at my house. I live in a house. You live in an apartment and my apartment. Yeah I was GONNA say you're up on the second floor. How could this be possible but squirrels are widely? They can get up to the second floor. No problems. This squirrel is the most terrifying of all my adversaries throughout the years from wise that was he doing to you Ari let me let me just set the scene a little bit in this Squirrel Squirrel is jet. Black all black yeah. There were a lot of Y went to school in Maryland. There were a lot of black squirrels. Yeah but you don't see not they're not in New York. That's why I was like unique thing. That was like wait a minute. These scrolls aren't brown or black. Yeah and then also They got all like roughly hair like he just woke up. Yeah all right but he's just so Puffy okay all right. Here's the thing. Look like the joker of squirrels. He's trying to get into my home. Oh and it's been a multi day campaign campaign and night this out at night to which Thurgood not a fan of He he was at my kitchen window the other day. We're on the second floor right. He's just scratching at it trying to get in my wife calls me in. I go in there. He's not afraid of us. We're paying for my wife Doc. LISTEN TO YOU Steve. Squirrelly amid Scoundrel we're banging on the window it doesn't go away it's just scratching on it like I'M GONNA get it right. He's he's been at got a A screen on that window. It also closed because it's the winter winter but I'm saying is he like ruining the screen. Yeah but whatever. That's the least of his contest. Lisa my concern concerts. Yeah property damage so he will just one of my neighbors still has her frigging air conditioner. I feel got mine in well. You and my neighbor did get your act together together and he he just sits atop there and stare sin to our window and he's he he he's able to scale L. The side of of of building the building it's like a brick building elementary. Yeah giving away too many details about your home. Am I know now. The brick building New York City. Hey Tom all right look they know I live in New York City. They live in a brick building but they never the two together. Yeah so all right. Ix Nay on the occasion lay of my apartment a is that what you do for pig. I never understood understood it. Hard to understand well. You can't do it just things that start with vowels. Yeah but it's like you take the first letter and put it in the back or something. Yeah yeah that's it anyway. What else is squirrel there? All the time any makes terrifying noise like yeah. Sounds like the scrolls probably got rabies. I know should lay him inside. Help them out. But here's the thing we don't have control troll over the heat in our building either so it just blame you live in the brick building. That doesn't have control over the New York City. The Black Squirrel outside sitting on their list. If somebody wants to come to my home if they know what the Black Squirrel I'm not I'm not into violence right but somebody's got squirrel and nobody. Nobody's alarmed by this. My neighbors next door I was like hey solve in the hallways see see the squirrel. They're like yeah it's trying to get in and he's insane or something. He was just hanging out on my insane squirrel. Here's the hanging out on my fire escape which is right next to my head while I sleep. I mean you're it. Sounds like your neighbors. Probably have a reasonable assurance. He's shine shine again in but guess what it's a squirrel. He's not going to be able to get in. Guess what it gets so hot. We don't have opened the window the other night. It wasn't around thought and my wife Crack the window open like would she thought was not not a lot but it was a good like three or four inches in your reverse. scrolling quarrel can squeeze a determined squirrel misses the most determined squirrel. Ever see my life get squeezed through there. I didn't even realize it was open. I fell asleep on the couch In the room I woke up as I need to go to bed. It's like the middle of the night and that's how. How should this windows open unattended? This Squirrel Squirrel. My wife was in the next room the squirrel could be he could be in bed next. I I WANNA could've taken my place already the by the way I think that's what he's after. He wants to wear my clothes my job. Yeah well time to go oh to work on you and your wife will be none the wiser. Yeah it might. You might be an upgrade. But I don't know but not if he is rabies right at least you don't have rabies. Yeah so I see him He he I think he lives in the tree across. But he's always looking at me from the tree. He's just fixated on our apartment and he just hangs out the right up against the glass of our window because there's a small window uh-huh sill and he's been to every single one of our windows scratching trying to get in the ZAMBONI friends no family. No He's been I'm sure he's alienated any squirrel companions. He's had in his screeching. Do you think maybe like you had your windows open. I've been in the summer and some point you and your wife for at work in Squirrel came in and hit all of his nuts in there maybe and now winter in when he's looking for his nuts again look if if this squirrel just wanted to come in for a few minutes and gathers not do whatever he needs to do and then leave. I'm I'm okay with it but it's how you get that kind of assurance exactly he'll tell you whatever you wanna hear in the moment. Oh Yeah Oh ooh ooh the operator deal. Yeah I'm afraid to deal with the devil. Yeah some afraid of a squirrel. The other night I I left my building. We're on we're on the second floor. I left my building and I looked up his. They're afraid who's going to jump on me or something so you seem even when you're outside I do you can take him out. He's he's eight feet away from me when I'm outside. Menace him while you were on his his turf wine. You try and climb into the tree. Say Hey how do you like this POW. He played my neck. Probably be fine with the. Yeah you live in the seal your wife sleep in in your marital bed with your wife. Lynn be the first time a squirrels got in the best of me. Yeah well that does sound exhausting. Yeah one time. I got goose and I thought that was his goose for me outside of my work for uh-huh weeks straight every day. Where did you do that? Goose in the first place. I don't know Oh. Yeah that goose was not a fan of me and I thought this was like you. I mean your dog. Ginger likes me a lot She wants you to rubber nipples and our but all the time and you refused to do either so I don't know how much she could possibly awesome. Like you know she growls at me. Embarks Until I pet her and then she stops and I start petting her and then she tries to weirdly position her body. so that then hadn't touching a part of her body that I don't want to put the parts of her body that she can't touch that's what it is. She's toucher head. Ah She. You kind of touched her head but it is look why does she want me to touch her. But why don't you touch. I touched her but enough I I mean I don't really like doing it because no actually invite you. Four someone over into your home for professional endeavor this this podcast and you're just like dogs book. No it's it's just here's when you start scratching their but it's never enough problem problem Tom. I scratch my dogs but for like an hour I don't like and then within a half a second not I like her haunches and then within a half a second of stopping she's like what the what the hell go back to doing that. It but she. She's got short legs she can reach. She got short legs a long body. She can reach your but thing about if you're couldn't reach your if you can scratch your ass all day drive you crazy drive you crazy within than an hour if you can scratch your ass. Let that Squirrel and it'd be like all right but here's here's the deal. Get a scurry around my bottom. The team this we. This is a stunt episode. In a way we're talking about America's fourth worth favorite pizza. Place third favourite delivery their favor delivery because little. CAESARS does not offer delivery and Papa John's which we'll get into pop the papa. John himself is in the news this week which will get into natter matter. What a cool name schnatter any? It's the perfect name for a sweaty villain like. Yeah I'll get your schnatter Saddar we'll get into slops or something. It'd be allowed slop Sir. John Sweats with the Z.. we'll get into him a little bit later but first we have to begin with are the stunt portion of this episode. which is making me lethargic and tired and sick as we speak we have just ordered? I've not had papa. John's Pizza In years we just ordered some pizza to try it. Because we're we were nothing. We have to be fair affair with with our journalism. Yeah Yeah I used to and I don't know what we were thinking. I went to college in New York. City yeah home of the greatest pizza. It's a in the United States sales sales to the original cells. Sal Juniors Need Ray. Yeah Ray A to tell me. There aren't pizza places. Team sows in York man. This we would order Papa Papa. John's all the time. Yeah that's so much papa. John's is like all right. We'll get into this. Was We have to review I. This was between two thousand and two thousand four the early years of the war on terror. Right we have to talk about the pizza first Then we'll talk about our experiences in the past with Papa Johns I I we have to review it off. I feel like I feel. I think Leaner A and we're not gonNA make it through the hips. I'm a little dizzy right now. And I had two slices of pizza that same thing here. I'm shocked Tim. You frequently referred to me as a monster you are because of what you eat and how much I eat of it but I had two slices and a few cheese sticks same cheesy would where they called cheese sticks cheese bread cheesy cheese stick it can cheese bread and then a desert which will will tease for later. Why are we? Why are we you very very distinct structure and you're gonNA GONNA follow your lead on this? You let me know what I can reveal and win okay but I wanNA talk about this and I realized we haven't neither of US have had papa. John's pizza in a long time and again. I wanted to be fair. I didn't want my opinions to be based on old information yet. She sticks cheesecakes outdated information so we had to order some fresh fresh right off the bat. Big problem download the APP. I've log into the APP. The APP wind to deliver pizza to where I live two decades ago. That's not your. Luckily I checked. Yeah but you were trying to. Did we ever order when we were rooming. Yeah we must have because it was in it must have been like a super bowl party price. Something along those lines can you. Is there a history in the the APP. Go Look Yeah I know my old password. Didn't work You know what probably happened. I think they had a data breach. No I think they had a crazy stunt pita at that we were like Oh we have to try the philly cheese steak pizza. Oh Yeah Yeah We were gross. Still am we had. I had two slices of a plain cheese pizza and not even a large pizza. Now we got a medium and I feel like really tiny slices I feel like I have sluggish blood like my blood is eighty percent more viscous than normal Like if you cut open if you open a vein right now it'd be garlic sauce like nothing would come out. It'd be to immediately clock. Yeah it'd be it'd be to squeeze out like I don't know like butter. No not even melted butter. It'd be somebody would have to run. We'd have to squeeze along your arm to get the to get the blood plot out. Yeah like when they have a paint that comes in like artists creek paint. Yeah that you that you'd like put on Youtube. That's what your blood's that's like the squeeze yard a tube to get your blood out. Yeah well that's good. He keep all my blood. That's ever need. If I need to chop off a limb reason that'll stop the basic before people go into battle and war. They should give him papa. John's yeah bullets go. Oh right in ten seconds to Air Airdrop Papa. John's behind enemy lines so download the APP and the APP much to my surprise said. Hey he can't get papa. John's it's not we. We own offered delivery where you are. Oh I thought it mistakenly thought you were a member of a minority group and we know how Papa John feels about right. He's not running things. He's gone which we'll get to that. We'll get to that so I had to go on Seamless which is Delivery website And the price is eighty. Get off your duff. Go to carry out place into that. It was far. Who are your house? I leave my house every day until you left your marillier today. Damn Yeah Right Eh Papa. John's 'cause win deliver. I should have known that by the time I came back here like a liver. That's why I had to walk there earlier So as seamless the prices. On seamless. I feel like we're marked up because Scene it's unseemly on seamless. Right eight I feel like it wasn't officially pop. I don't know what the Hell is going on. I also feel like it might have cut my brain off from the rest of my I wonder if if it's just you know I guess a lot of Papa. John's our franchise and I guess maybe some of them can and say well. Here's our delivery radius. But then they probably go independently on seamless in essentially say say. We'll we'll deliver to a wider radius. But here are prices for seamless in order to do that. And guess what they'll be unseemly so ordered all ordered off seem it actually came relatively quick although ordering a medium pizza pie cheese sticks and then the desert with tip was almost fifty dollars is a very expensive and this is famously. Why you don't tip? No I did tip. I gave a seven dollar tip for delivery and the guy called. It go downstairs. He didn't even bring it upstairs. Form It yeah you are so oh angry about that. Well that's ridiculous. Seven dollar tip you can ran up the steps Union electrician tip the elevator. It was fifty eighty total. Yeah Yeah so so. The bill is forty three. I gave fifteen percent tip because I knew that they probably weren't going to do that. But even still seven seven dollars. It's a pretty good tip. I mean no. It's not yeah it is going percent seven dollars dollars. It's sixteen percent things you a restaurant and we'll mark this up. I know the wholesale value of of the meal I had and they've marked it up so the waiter has to suffer. No but I knew from past experience that they don't Actually come up that they deliver from the street. So how do you you just you said seven dollar tip and they won't even bring on seven dollars. This is a guy and then I said seven dollars is not a good tiffany. You said I know because I knew I would get bad service. Your stories change. Here's here's my story. I gave a fifteen percent tip instead of twenty percent because I knew they wouldn't bring it up the stairs however regardless of that seven seven dollars is still pretty good tip and he should bring it up the stairs. What if the bill was? One hundred dollars is seven dollars. A good tip Tom. No is it fifteen percent tip generally tip. No it's not a bad tip. I usually do twenty percent. It's bad tip Tom. You tipped poorly whatever. The guy didn't bring it upstairs. Yeah I know and because you tipped Portland you saw how little food it was. And it wasn't even that much food and he was far more than either of us are willing to eat right which I didn't even explain when you were like Ami we should get a small instead of a media now man brings of that home. I never want to see I two slices licensed pizza. I never want to see another piece of pizza again. Yeah so we we just got the plain cheese. Pizza will say this. That so Papa John's in the news this week John John Schnatter schnatter natter slat Shatter Shat Shatter schnatter And one of the things he said is wet. Slop let's just call them sweat. slop is that in the last thirty days. He's ordered forty pizzas says from Papa. John's and because of that he knows that the quality has dropped dramatically dramatically. You know what I would respect him a little bit if he had said he he had ordered forty pizzas he said he is eaten in the last name. ADP is like you know. I was his testing how long the delivery was testing what condition they came in. No he ate all of these. He's still like a the largest shareholder a owns thirty one percent of the company. Yes so like if I was doing quality control and I took one bite from each pizza. No he ate. You know no this. How how is he that sweaty if he didn't actually forty pizzas in thirty days? Yeah and why is he the pizzas. If he's so mad at the company well he still gets money from it. I mean I guess he's spending. We'll talk about the pizzas in a minute or Papa John and and the pizzas. We're talking about the pizzas. See the pizza has slipped my friend. The pizzas now reached my brain. The I wanted to see see what he was saying was in any way Perceivable that the quality had dropped team in your opinion. Did that Papa. John's pizza tastes any different than any papa. But John's pizza you've had in the last twenty years. I don't think so. Yeah but I'll be honest never never addressed this podcast Tom. I'm not a dope smoker. I'm I'm not a drugs person right but there were times in college when I a smoker I dabbled in when you did smoke dope. Yeah and that was the time when we would order it right and so two at the time it was a Michelin Star Restaurant in your by nineteen years old and eating two slices of this wouldn't bring me as close to death as I've ever been in my entire life right so yeah I think it tasted better to my drug addled mind now pot. I've never I've never ever seen any other drug have you. We've talked about this. I've never even seen cocaine. I ever seen anybody who's been on cocaine. I've I've definitely seen some people have been on cocaine Quentin Tarantino when he was on the Jay Leno. Show right yes. I've seen small amounts of cocaine I think. Think but I you know what I'm saying that but I can't remember like a specific situation. I know that when my brother moved into his current home He found a bag of heroin. Lots yeah in the in the Washer Dryer. Wow from the previous tenant that Pity left at their. I'm sure I was like wow heroin expansion. I duNNo. It's not right. I think it's pretty expensive. I don't know if it's bad I don't know it's that expensive but I think it's mostly like when you really want it. You want it so if ed addictive drugs so I don't think any anyone who enjoys heroin is like. Oh I've got some extra. Let me. Just throw that out. That's that's one of the bad things about it so anyway I wouldn't. This is one reason why I don't recommend smoking. Dope is because it makes papa. John's palatable very much in unpalatable foodstuff. Yeah I didn't smoke much doping college college but I did drink alcohol and it was very much like you know you come home hammered and they would be open late and and then somebody would would float that idea out and one. It was Pandora's box once they've been opened wants. Somebody had floated the idea. Papa John's nobody was ever like. Nah I can't go for Papa. John's Papa John's box came and you opened it all. The world's ghouls came out morally. No we've literally opened. It went right into our Jesus. I'm not well. That's Papa John's but you don't have to do into the microphone. No unexpect- What enough over here so you know but enough nobody wants? Let's see here that I can't help it. Talk to Papa John. I don't WanNa talk about. Well look them and he he had the beady eyes of the Squirrel. That's menacing me. It was a trick them. Because Papa John has no sane the company anymore. He can't change anything about it. He'd love to according to him for the pizza. Tasted exactly as I remembered for Papa. John's chain pizza. The sauce was a little bit better than I remembered. Or maybe I just didn't think about the sauce and I was thinking as a more refined palate. Yeah well I was thinking I was eating it. The sauce is what they promised. Earliest added more sugar to it. Probably I was thinking. The sauce is the best part of this pizza which is rare for a chain pizza. I think most chain pizza's pizza's cheese or actually know Pizza Hut. They do the crust. Really Nice Yeah. They do like their Chicago style. I tell you every late to an event that I was heading to this last week with a friend of ours who. I'm always getting odd. Had Tim I was late to an event with a friend of ours as going to concert. Okay with the. I can save the person's name but you would know her but the listeners wouldn't who's always late to stuff right. I'm always giving her art. You don't want to call this person. Yeah I always give her a hard time for being late. Everything as fifteen minutes late meeting her. 'cause I was I got sucked down a rabbit hole of youtube videos of how to replicate in early Nineties Pizza Hut Personal Pan Pizza using a regular alert. Cast iron thing that you have at home pan head personal pan pieces right in the name but You know there are several tutorial videos. This one doesn't look like a get it fully data after watching it for fourteen minutes. Let me watch the next one that comes. There's other worse than watching a tutorial on Youtube. Were they're doing something like that. We're going to replicate. And then they get done and you're looking on your going then isn't it. Yeah got it wrong long. Yeah well what how are you going on in this was just like oh you get dough and you just like well. There's gotta be something different about the Pizza Hut version. Yeah did you find out what the seeger was. I think cornstarch That seems like a thing. Yeah Yeah you know I'm Gonna I'm GonNa try to rip. I mean my plan was to try to replicate it at some point this weekend but now that I've had this pizza I don't WanNa have pizza any kind of pizza product for at least six weeks. Replicate Pizza Pizza. You'RE GONNA need a lot of oil to yeah imagine. Yeah the garlic butter what tastes it. Absolutely the same as I remember from college. So one thing about Papa. John's is there dipping sauces and their garlic butter letter dipping sauce. Yeah so standard. When you buy a pizza they include for anybody? That's not familiar a little dipping sauce of garlic butter better. And that's it. They call it special garlic sauce yet. Because I'm sure it's technically not butter garlic and carcinogens agents but it tastes butters could curse into not like margarine or whatever is This is just like all sorts of hydrogenated oils. It tastes exactly the same. And that's always been papa. John's secret sauce. The garlic sauce which I'm shocked that more fast food pizza places haven't copied this notion of look nobody. Nobody likes to waste cruspus. Only eat if you're hungry because otherwise you WANNA leave more room for food. But what if there was something you could dip your cross into that would make it more palatable and now pizza hut they thought of The stuffed crust. They said we're GONNA put cheese in the crust. WHO said this Domino's Pizza Hut? Yeah no I said pizza then you said WHO said this okay. Because I wasn't listening I was reading the ingredients for the Papa. John's cardinal guys This is a problem fast. Food Pizza places trying to tackle since time began. How do we get these fat jerks to eat our crust rust? They wanted to eat it but it's it's not palatable enough let's preach let's put water on it. You're a non crust eater and I feel like that's a very anything I know. Eat Christmas time I will not eat crow. It depends on the cross cross idol like yeah. It's it's funny like getting a slice at a local slice joint use through the crust not always and If the crust is like it's Kinda like burnt if it's like a real crispy crust. I usually won't eat it if it's doughy crust I'll eat it soybean oil water salt vegetable mono in Douglas Rides garlic natural flavors soil. Electon lactic acid sodium benzoate calcium dice. ODIUM EDTA citric acid suffer. You can make at home Vitamin A POW vitamins in it. Yeah enhances the flavor of the vitamin how mutate right spry. Just like they were putting that Vitamin E ACETATE IN VAPES and kill people. Vitamins aren't always good for you. Tim That's vitamins are are always good for you. That's the message of this week's episode especially ingested Smoke into your lungs vapor not smoke smoke. Yes so vapor not smoke. The the pizza was. I don't know it was good kind of but it just assert immediately making me feel bad guy to tell you. I didn't eat anything all day. Except for a fun. Size Three Musketeers. Before I got here okay. I add a McDonald's breakfast sandwich this morning. I I ate probably only because they were on sale. And 'cause I need coffee and I was getting the coffee there anyway. It was only two dollars for breakfast sandwich I wanted so the steward sandwiches I got a bacon. No a sausage egg and cheese on a ED BAGEL and make big. Wasn't that good now. I don't know why surprised I should have just gone with the mkx griddle. But it is the most The vilest create. They must put nicotine in mic riddles. Or something I've never had a mic riddle and not immediately. You wanted to get up and order five more. Oh there is one time. It was the first time I realized I got. I was like twenty four years old at of Vitamin Light of an mkx riddle and I felt my heart skip a beat. As Oh thing I gotta straighten up and fly right. You were falling in love with the griddle with the grimace. You wish I could follow up at the grimace whether or not that'd be reciprocated. That's something I might wish for. All right let me bring us to the final course the desert are you saying. I don't know we got the Cookie Pie. The cookie pie is like it's a Taga chip cookie in the shape of a pie that they cooked for about half the time they were supposed to feel like. That's that's always what they do. That's how that cookie is. It's like Mrs Fields Style. I've never had it MRS FIELDS MRS fields. I'm not allowed to go to the mall. Oh aw ten mrs fields cookies are so good you should have won. I mean does it. Does it taste like yeah. It's it's like very very salt lake. It tastes like it hasn't been coke long. I'll tell you I feel like hell right now. How you're describing that squirrel? Squirrelly this is some Kafka Metamorphosis Shit your turn into that Squirrel. Wake up and you're going to be you know trying to commit. You're going to be back in time banging on the window trying to convince your wife that it's you brother. I would eat another piece of that. Cookie Pyrite Leagues Act. Same thing and I don't want any food. I don't want any more us more of the cookie. Now we come. We objectively should not eat more. No food food food. No that will only do bad things. We Eh one slice each. And there's like six more slices left out to die. I know but if you don't eat them the nominee communist sweating Selma how God. Yeah I understood why Papa. John's sweat so much like halfway through my first slice. Just start sweating like crazy. Can I ask you a question. One main overarching question about Papa. John the man Mr Schnatter you can start talking about the man does he. We know how sweaty is. Does he know that this is like everybody. Isn't that sweaty. I don't does he think does he. You look at other people. It'd be like I bet. By skaters about the safe moisture level as them. I don't know I mean because every time I see him he's sweating beyond belief. It's weird like people speculate pretty openly. And I would. We've speculated this at that he potentially has a a drinking problem. Yeah well in all his he because he was the face of Papa. John's and he's in all the commercials. SEIONAGE ANUJ smiling being. Hello welcome to come to my restaurant. Better ingredients right pizza but he never had a convincing smile like he's one of those people that can't smile mile unless you see a picture of when he's drunk and he is one of those like dopey smile Rankin leering. Smells like it's different kind of smile smile. Yeah it's like Oh no whoever. You're looking at smiling like that. Should run in run very right. Yeah Yeah it's a very plastered on smile. Smile on the commercials. Yeah and he's been seen football games looking very drunk. They'll hey we do right. I've also it one to be here and I feel like I looked like maybe just been eating pizza backstage. Or whatever I mean eating One and one third of those entire your pies a day. God Yeah Keough. Imagine he'd be dead if he actually. Maybe he's worked up an immunity but I'm telling you man the real evil ones Think eat whatever they want they can do whatever they want. They won't die the real evil one you can't and he can't kill with the stuff that kills moods every right but I was wondering watching that interview where like he he disliked you sway and like real puffy looking local affiliate right. He was for some reason wearing a shirt that the jeff basketball she is. She was wearing a red shirt. That looked like Papa. John's stirred like the Papa. John shirty would always wear with a little. White logo zoomed in its Jeff Basketball. I mean that must be what is it like a University of Kentucky or something like Houdini in a lot of money to like. That might be they they make Merch for League based on college basketball players players Even though they're not allowed to like they'll merchandise in so there my Dad Jeff and they're like Oh and he's Jeff. Basketball Donny. Baseball yeah exactly but But he looked like hell like the idea of use. Zubi this But they they people speculated like Oh man like he's he looks like he's hitting the booze pretty hard right base on based on how his face looks right now and it's weird to me to think because I feel like in our day and age when you're that rich and well known You don't get like there'd enough people around you they're like Hey we got a guy acquit booze. Don't go on TV so you quit like and we'll we'll we'll send you the best Rehab Center. Whatever money can buy? It's the best vacation you've ever had but you can't go on. TV looking like look man. He's been going on. TV looking like hell for attack. It looks so bad years ago they they. Oh can you imagine the Guy Ed squeegee off before each take. They've really they had somebody come on. And then they had to reapply that pancake makeup on them and then the problem is that he has very obviously black dyed hair. Yeah I I mean he's he's too old to have hair that dark and when when older man start going gray and they're who've for some reason there they think well dyeing my hair the color it was going to die of black jet an unnatural jet black. That's what he looks like. It is just like a very very black and he does not look otherwise healthy enough to maintain eighteen that thick head of black hair. Tom In October of this year Papa John on the man not the lobster donated five hundred thousand dollars to his Alma. Mater Jefferson High School Search Jeff Basketball. Probably yeah okay. Sorry there's unfortunately not a man named Jeff Basketball which is a bummer. I wish yeah you know what I can get more behind Donating de way. He donated to the Basketball Program just to the school they. They put it toward a new turf. Infield and outfield fence to the Schools Baseball Stadium and the complex will be renamed. John H Schnatter schnatter stadium which seems like a bad idea. Yeah we thought that it was a great opportunity to show that you can overcome mistakes. So we're we're glad to work with schnatter on this so much this Guy Hutchinson but he can overcome mistakes by giving money. Yeah if you you can say a racial slur on a conference call and get ousted as company's CEO. But if you give somebody five hundred thousand dollars they'll accept it and that's how you overcome adversity and he never Like overcame his mistake. No he just gave this look if if I was like a high school principal. I'd be sure Papa John I'll take your half a million dollars well and I'm sure I wouldn't put it towards the fucking baseball stadium though. Yeah A- and Indiana. I'm sure they're high schools aren't super well funded yeah I would assume to that. He sorry pizzas clogged up. Hold on I wasn't listening when you're talking about him dying his hair before looking Jeff basketball he switched that much much. How come the die? Doesn't that out for. I don't think they're right before the commercial shoe Polish. It does it earlier earlier and earlier in the wooded so greasy. How how do you have a dyed hair that? That's that's that greasy and you're sweating that but because you know you wrote a pizza on there to get for Greece going. That's what he does. It's advertised the Pizza Greasy. This pizzas wonder survey hair. Oh I was GONNA say I'm sure that that. Pr Firm that they hired was like. Oh Hey here's how to fix that. Pr Disaster Go out and apologize for saying that Players shouldn't kneel during the national anthem at them especially because your criticism was predicated on why your sales were down. It wasn't even like oh I disagree with that. I think it gets unpatriotic. I think it's this or that it was no. I'm going to use this as excuse for why pizza. Sales are down because people aren't watching football because players kneel at the beginning of the game sometimes in that pisses people off to the point where they don't order pizza. Yeah he could have just said. Misspoke is support Freedom of expression. Sorry about all that but in cities here's Turtle Sanders said the N.. Word right and then instead during a conference call with his CRISIS PR firm. He said Colonel Sanders said the Colonel Sanders called called blacks the N. word and he said the N.. Word but yeah yeah actually set it and it worked out for him. Why is this happening? Pigmeat fuck right that guy suck and it's also yeah colonel. Sanders did that fifty years ago when it was. Okay Tom No oh but fifty years ago people did get away with that Shit. Nowadays isn't fifty years ago. Thank God so that's why you can't say things like that it anymore. Yeah and especially but they had woodstock tom one ever shove woodstock up your but say that to the Jefferson airplane are they also with us. I don't think all right. Well I'll say it to the surviving members. Well they became starship. I'll I'll say to them I say became Jefferson starship right and then there's a really cool evolution but yeah it was just a very. He had a million chances to fix his mistake by just apologizing and saying yeah but guys like this. Yeah they they all. They've done their entire. Our lives is doubled down. And benefited. Right that's true and then you double down one time too many and then You become the victim. Yeah and that's what he's doing right now. He was also people some people remember but some people forget that he was against a the Obama care because he claimed that obamacare would cause the prices of his pizza to have to rise anywhere from five to ten cents in order order to provide the mandatory healthcare to his employees to which most rational people said. Oh that's all it would take. I'll L. pay ten cents more for my pizza. If that means all of your employees will go from not having any health insurance whatsoever to having health insurance. Yeah that's a fair trade. The man who has a full course on his property he has an eighteen hole. Golf course he lives in an actual castle. That Eddie built. Yeah he's doing are a you know where you could have gotten some of them money right. I mean that's the thing you could have eaten the cost ost and and you know you would have been fine ten cents per pizza but he had the audacity to go out there and say look there. You guys don't want this healthcare for the whole country because you're not thinking this through it's GonNa cost pizza. Prices go up ten cents a popeye. Yeah even if you order a hundred pizzas a year from me. That's GONNA cost you ten extra dollars right. Yeah Yeah so think about that next Kgo the polls the inside story of Papa. John's toxic culture by Noah Kirsch in Forbes Forbes magazine Tom Okay in Nineteen Ninety nine a mobile phone representative named Leslie Workman filed a lawsuit. Alleging that Papa. John groped her after meeting her at a party. In Louisville Park proceeded to stock her and then asked her bus to send her to Papa. John's to discuss a possible phone contract contract. Could you imagine like Viewed like hey sin that sexy game over. I got a contract to talk about He denied the allegations. Wins and filed a counterclaim But the case ended with paying a confidential settlement It's always what people do when I was I was I was going to bring it up before when you're talking about Him having forty pizzas and thirty days as I was also thinking about the poor person that has to deliver the pizzas to his crazy mansion. And they must that pizza or comes comes in one to two times every day and they gotta be thinking. Oh God I bet he tips even worse than you. I'm sure sure he does. I'm sure he flips them. A dime. It says here for your healthcare He's definitely somebody that would take it out and take it personally and take it out on his emplo. I'm sure like the person probably tries to give him the pizza and run away and he's like no no no. You'RE GONNA wait here with me while I try the pizza and then I'm GonNa give you my complaints about what's different and what's worse. There's no way fast. Food chain chain of that size. Could not institutionalize that dramatic of a change in two years. He's like unless they in those two years. Dramatically changed the process with which they make the pieces or indoor have changed the suppliers for the ingredients and soon be the same pizza more or less. And they haven't done either of those things and it's not like they've come out and said we got rid of Papa John and all and they probably should do this. We got rid of them. And and we have a new recipe. We have a new you know because I think they're doing bad right. Yeah like learning to Papa. John no I mean like financially. Yeah like we're GonNa reboot this whole thing. We're GONNA have a new logo new recipe all of that organic like a cartoon Papa. John Sweaty guys head. A female employees says that Schneider asked about her bra size and that he never let her pass in a hall without giving her a hug from that Forbes article but imagine even if there wasn't anything sexual about it. If your boss gave you a frigging again hug just how annoying that would be. Yeah and then ten billion times worse when he's a leering creep in your lady and and after you give that hug then you're all sweaty. Yeah exactly yeah yeah. It seems like that'd be pretty easy to save the sweaty dress right over to prosecutors He denies a hair dye on your collar. Exactly here die in Greece from the pizza that was rubbed in his hair and just as sweat. Yeah Yeah if nothing else like her clothes budget probably the win through the roof. Ray Out of these. I got chuck. This this outfit yeah. He's a good man. I was GONNA say When I was in college we had a few independent places is that I would order from More than Papa. Johns that were better one was called. DP show it was a cow zone. Place they only make cows zones. Okay well that's not a one to one. Then it's it's Italian food and the other was cluck you. They made chicken wings. The I know that CLUCK U. That's that's what I've got they They tried to expand cluck. You into New York City but they called pluck you I. I think that was a different yet. They tried to steal the idea. You know what that stood for right but university the U.. Yeah there's there are two things I'll side with Papa. John's Papa John Okay into the restaurant not the man yeah. I'm a pizza hut man. You know this Personal Pan Pizza. You're the persona guy and the Pizzonia Whenever I enter the room they go? Hey Hey it's the position guy like. Hey what's a position known. Another word of Brazilians for provided. Everybody pays me back on Brian on. Yeah I'll yeah I'll send I'll send requests. It's not on you to remember zones in Nineteen ninety-seven Pizza Hut filed a lawsuit against Papa. John's based on a series of advertisements that compared the ingredients of Papa John's and its competitors Pizza Hut successfully argued that Papa Pajan slogan did not constitute statements of literal fact that quote fresher ingredients do not necessarily account for a quote better pizza. Yeah Hey Pizza Hut I love you and I Hate Papa. John's with a passion but somebody says their slogan is fresher ingredients. Better Pizza. Uh and you take them to court over it come on man. That's that's a loser's mentality there right. You can't come back. They're not even like pizza. Hut Pizzas bad. They're just like. Hey if you use fresher ingredients better pizza and pizza it's like screw you know. Oh pizza can still be good. If it doesn't have fresh ingredients will take you to court. We'll see you out so they didn't try and argue that no you're ingredients aren't fresher like there's not a a one to one here of freshness no they did they were just like no fresher. Doesn't mean better stop saying that. Yeah that's kind of like A. That's that's a little bit streisand effect. Fakty of them calling attention to yeah. Our ingredients aren't fresh. Who Cares? Yeah so what that doesn't mean it's not good it's good it's is probably even better where it'd be different if they argued. No your ingredients aren't fresher ours are fresh urge just as fresh but like now. It doesn't matter if our shit comes from cans and miss frozen. I read that whole thing from wikipedia. I know people are. They're just read things from wikipedia. I read that part from wikipedia. And you've also heard late ally. This is coming out around when Papa John was saying he didn't want to pay for healthcare that like he started rated his restaurant in his dad's bar in just like a broom closet. Eli cleared out a broom closet and started selling pizzas in there and yeah enterprising. Oh it's enterprising but at the same time it's like well you did have a leg up like you. You had feeding which is a huge most restaurants go under because they have to pay for real estate. Yeah so yeah. That was a leg up. Got He sold his Camaro very depressing thing to do in Nineteen eighty-four especially for a guy like Papa. John's yeah exactly He he probably had to sell it at a discount. Gets over such Greece at the seats out to replace the seats before he sold it and then in teeth as a nineties like I want it back I'll pay two hundred fifty thousand dollars to the to the person who sells me back the Camaro I I sold now This is part of This is the one good thing I can say about Papa. John and The family that he had sold it to in one thousand. Nine hundred in Nineteen eighty-four four Looks like hey we don't have it anymore. We sold it to this other guy. Yeah that other guy sold it back to Papa John for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars Papa. John Mistake Sake I feel bad. And he gave that family twenty five thousand dollar finders fee. That is nice. Yeah Papa John a good man. Yeah he didn't he he wasn't even doing it as a PR thing to get his name stadium after he said the N.. Word on a conference call Salva personnel. Hold on the one. The one other Defensive Papa. John's the restaurant. They invented the pizza dipping sauce. And I know The that's that's a dubious honor but I love dipping sauce. I love any kind of dip and I think it is a legit innovation I don't love their dipping services but I think incorporating dipping sauces into new realms is a positive thing and and as such. We should forgive John Schneider for any things he said. Let solve a problem. It's one of this during the break. I don't know it's so soft you can't even tell because as you were eating it before and it was you think it's not being picked up on the microphone stopping no Tom Nobody. Nobody walking likes that. A hate I'm podcast when people really will eat this but some people have missed the phone and can't take it. Oh well fuck them Bulla Mendez. It's it's sucks. It sucks. Do not chew into the microphone Tom. That's gone now fucking burst into the microphone. You're chewing into the microphone. The Bourbon couldn't be helped hoped that you gotta relax. You gotTA relax. You know what you should eat a chill pill do you eat chill pill down told you I had a problem at chill pill. Haven't putting briefly addicted to chill bills have been in drinking herbal tea with a few drops of CBD. Maybe I am a doper still. Yeah I put way too to much. CBD Mitee last night and it was awesome. I fell asleep at nine. Forty five woke up scalded from the no I woke woke up. I I drank multi. I fell asleep at like nine forty five and then I woke up about a half hour before my alarm Just lying there for fifteen minutes trying to figure out what day it was like is it. Saturday was last night Friday. What did I do last night? I can't remember what I did last night. Yeah you never wake up and think it's Monday and it's not always think it's Saturday Sunday. Usually Saturday I feel like Because really trying to retrace my step what are you looking at. You're looking at me off Mike. Okay we'll start looking everywhere you look at the floor thank you. This comes from Kabuki pans to set their Christian name. Yeah Hi Tim and Tom Longtime Listener. And I finally have a real problem. I'm hoping you can help me. Self from Kooky pants as a person that likes to be aware of their surroundings at all times. Sure you can say Ninja Lake. Nobody said that I like to look at the names of my neighbors on their mail packages and then search for them online. That's too far. This usually goes pretty smoothly but frigging Lincoln ratted me out by transferring me from my mobile browser chose not logged in to the Lincoln APP where I was is logged in thus showing my neighbor that I've looked at their profile. What do I do now when I get trapped in the elevator at this neighbor in case? They're aware that I've been stalking walking them. On linked in moving out soon poop pants first of all linked in. Yeah you don't need to access it from an APP on your phone. Delete the fucking Ath- yeah and don't stay signed into Lincoln ever for any reason on any browser search news and had congratulate people about their job at AVERSA. Well if you need to sign in if you get An update in email. But someone you haven't thought about since highschool is celebrating eight years at some depressing pressing company. And you WANNA congratulate them. Click the link sign in congratulate that loser and then sign out. I never thought about like like what kind of emails I probably like that. I get included in in other goals. Horrible writer at self-employed influence. Right and I was just about to say that like I hate when I get an email and it's like you know congratulate Bobby for in twenty years at Bobby Incorporated you know something that's not a real thing. CEO Hustle and grind. Yeah Yeah Shit like and like I just have writer at self employed because that's accurate But I yeah. PEOPLE PROBABLY GET EMAS congratulate. They Tom for and I do get. I can't believe I get emails all the time from Lincoln where it's like a network with other people who work for your company Anthony Self employed just has other people who have puts any. It's like a drop down. It's all like I entered in self employed you know we should do want create an employer page That looks legit. Okay and so. All the self-employed or underemployed under employees Folks out there that You Know WanNa be unlinked in for networking. Yeah but don't WanNa put like you know some people put at like you know the make up some like thing. And then you look. And it's like Oh it's one employee and it's this person you and I should should create a a page in invite all of the listeners to the complete guide to everything and their friends who don't want to just put that right and they'll be a part of like COLOSSEUM EISENHOWER INCORPORATING EVERYBODY VP titles. Yeah and we'll manage development. Yeah we can write a whole bunch of like we can make a mission statement and put it there and people feel like Oh man and then suddenly we're rocketed to the top of the the most valuable companies. What really we made it on the Forbes fifty I mean this is this is what happened to work and then they were just like fuck I gotta go with it right now? One guy left with billions the right. I mean everybody else lost their jobs but back I he made out like a bandit. Yeah and that'll be us and and you the listener. You'll we'll be the people that are getting screwed and I'm so bummed about what happened to the employees of we work. That's horrible join are fake company. Yeah come come work for us. We'll flew the new job But kooky pants I have. That thing turned off on linked him by the way what we're like. I can see who visit my profile but then that means other people can see you and like every time I go on. It's like I don't think they. They might not even offer that option anymore. It might be grandfathered in Kazuro trying to get me to turn it off. Yeah Yeah but for that reason because I don't want somebody to see that I'm looking at their stuff on. Here's the thing you get because because most of the time I'm looking at enemies of mine former enemies were on Mike trying to see where they work and trying to see like. Oh are they doing better show up there. No I'm trying to see if they're doing better or worse than last i-it's here's the thing. I don't think many many people check very often who's been looking at their profile and I know that linked in will generate. Yeah in email sometimes but not get emails Ellsworth like this many people but then when you look at it it's like Oh these are all like scams or yeah if you do wind up in an elevator with your neighbor and like first of all they'll pro- they probably won't even say anything. They probably will just assume what happened. Happened and guess what Pook Pants. You're on the hook for that The happened or they'll if if they're weirded out they'll be did you look me up on linked in or you kooky pants and be like yeah You were suggested as contact I was GonNa say I clicked on you and we have nobody in common. Are they fucking matching us. Are they listening. They yeah like are they using our address. That is a that Syria and turn it all around Lincoln for being being a sheet. Like can you believe this. You believe this. I guess they must have seen that. Our phones were within fifty hour. There's going by our address S. or something. I don't know if you put your address into Lincoln. I don't think so but like this is this is a this. I'M GONNA call my congressman yet. Let's Let's take down linked in listen to the Lincoln building and raise some hell. Yeah Banging on the doors and stop what you're doing. Yeah let's go down to Lincoln Park Mark and tell them yeah Occupied linked in. Yeah but then get out of there before somebody who can tell the truth comes by. Nobody tells the truth on the Internet Mel But they will. If you're in the park in a real life place woody. What do you mean somebody from? Lincoln might come out of the building. You believe anything out of their mouth and say look. I'll I'll tell you what happened. That's Netflix but read something his linked. Yeah probably now at are you thinking of Oh salesforce note anyway. Yeah it's fine. They're not they're probably often i. I've he said Yeah and then I said Hoffman. I said Reid Hoffman or is it hastings Ray Dustin. It's Dustin Hoffman's brother. They're not gonNA. They're not gonna see that you looked event. They did. It's fine and if they don't bring it up to them because that's GonNa look to guilt. Yeah but if they bring it up say oh get that is you showed up a suggestion. I clicked because I thought that was you you. Yeah and it's like Oh we have professional contacts in the in common but no we don't or say we did but then that person and had their account remove for abuse yeah and then You don't know them although it said you knew them. Yeah so you got fired for saying a racial slur on a conference call Papa. John would never live in an apartment. No I mean I could see him being a pretty bitch and slum lord the right have any owens a lot of apart. Oh sure the problem. We'd like the savvy can email us the complete guide everything gmail.com if you are looking for more show. TC DT DOT COM is your source if you WANNA support the show CHECKOUTIGT DOT com slash Amazon for all of your Amazon shopping this holiday season and patriots dot com slash complete guide for secondary podcast. Ask called books. The podcast where what somebody wrote in with another problem that we're going to solve if we we had time and in. The postscript said fifty shades of him was a great Segment and I would kill all somebody to have it Return guess what we're not reading fifty shades of grey over on books the podcast but it's the same Dang format of shades. Tim One of us read the book. And explain it to the other right and we're real dumb about it and it's if you like this show you like that show even better unless you're into fifty shades of Tim purely purely for the eroticism but I think books the PODCAST eroticism. Yeah we just finished Interview with the Vampire. Things got a Uh Tom very sensual. But yeah this week We start little women. If you've ever want to know what I think of reading little women and what Tim Thinks of it as years about it. Patriot dot com slash complete guide. And you can follow us on twitter at complete guide. Follow me on twitter and Instagram at Tom. Reynolds your pal Tim. Tim What the give a review Atta Tan of this Papa. John's meal you just had overall so including the cookies which I think we're pretty much on board with are pretty good although That little town of cookies. I think it was eight dollars. It's not worth eight dollars. Four dollar shore Negative I hated this meal. Yeah Yeah I feel I will not I will have a bad day tomorrow my day. I've I've ruined the rest of my nights and I will have a terrible day a tomorrow because of this. We really didn't even eat that much. No that's the worst part if I had overindulge like well eight like a fucking pig but no eight. Probably what bird they. I had two slices of pizza and a couple of things of cheesy bread. The cookie raised it from like a negative eighteen to negative five. But now now what about your with Papa. John that the quality has gone down. No I think this is why felt so bad in college and I was half my age to vote so bad in college so I felt bad for four years. Yeah yeah it is even feel. Well I mean I do remember looking back that and you know in college like I remember that smoking dope for four four years time one year post nine eleven dealing with al Qaeda's fault I remember in college like priding myself on like not never having a hangover or whatever. 'CAUSE you're young John in years like you don't really you puke and rally. I never did that a few times. I did that more recently than than I'm proud of. What is your rare time? It was like I haven't gotten drunk enough to a puke except for that one time in the last ten years but then you went back to drinking. Yeah Wow yeah. That's funny new. I thought my bloodshot tasers cry. I have likely not puked from drinking much in the past few years ears but whenever I have not felt well for at least two days. Yeah but I what my point was going to be that even though I would not really get sick and college from drinking would not get hangovers. I do remember drinking. Drunkenly Orien- Papa John's and then feeling alling unwell the next day even with you know my a beautiful young body able to you're an honest to purge toxins like nobody's business within seconds toxins would just be exuded at my body Papa. John's is bad food. ooh was founded by a terrible man. And you should steer clear but shack is on the board now so maybe things will turn around Uber. Be careful we'll check doesn't Mash the board backboard. He's been known to do it before. Yeah Shatter said Yeah. Fuck that's the word. I was looking for air brain surgery. Great all right. We'll see next week. Yeah that was a hit gum podcast.

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Season 2 Episode Zero

Papa Phd Podcast

02:41 min | 9 months ago

Season 2 Episode Zero

"Hi, David here. If you knew a beach the welcome. SEASON, two of the PODCAST is almost here. Episode one is airing on Thursday the twenty fourth of September and I'm really happy to be back in touch with you. So here's what's in the works for season two. On Season One, I tried my best to bring you stories from people with Masters repeat she degrees working in and out of academia with career paths as diverse as possible. Were great stories about entrepreneurship about following creative careers the buck mental health in graduate school. Interdisciplinary and reach working academia and about accessing careers in specific domains. You can get a glimpse of all those conversations on episode Sixty, eight and twenty six by going to pop up each dot com for slash sixty-eight and Papa Beach Dot Com for slash twenty six. In season two, I'm going to switch it up and not only bring you guests from different backgrounds and with different career journeys. But I will also be interviewing specialists work in the career counseling or in the recruitment domain to discuss the evolution of the PhD and to share their take on how to best navigate the often foggy waters of transitioning to your professional life. We'll be talking employment uncertainty during the covert pandemic evolution and future of the PhD Brandon Society in the in the job market skills development and career building and mental health trying to focus each episode on one main question. So if you're new to the show and want to warm up to season to go to Papa PhD dot, com and listened to the season one conversations. And if you want to make sure you don't miss any of the new episodes go to Papa PhD dot com for slash season two and sign up to receive them straight in your inbox. And that's all I wanted to share with you in the season two episode zero. Looking forward to having you in the audience and to hearing from you. Thank you for being a fan and stay safe. Thanks for listening to another episode of the Papa Peach De podcast. HEAD OVER TO PAPA PhD. Dot Com for show notes in for more food for thought about non-academic Post Grad careers. Always, be happy to share inspiring stories, new ideas and useful resources here on the PODCAST. So make sure you subscribe on Itunes or wherever you get your podcast to always keep up with the discussion and to hear from our latest guests.

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The Horrible Misdeeds of Papa Pilgrim

Murder and Mystery in the Last Frontier

35:13 min | 1 year ago

The Horrible Misdeeds of Papa Pilgrim

"From the Wilderness of Kodiak Island Alaska. This is murder and mystery in the last frontier. With your host Robin Airfield in a land full of peril and vicious animals. Humans are the most dangerous predators of all Alaska. Slogan is the last frontier and to some people this means Alaska is the wild west a place with less law and order and someplace they can live as they choose the man who called Himself Papa. Pilgrim believed moving his family to the Wilderness of Alaska offered him the opportunity to do anything he wanted. Papa pilgrim was the worst kind of hypocrite because he hit his crimes behind his religious zeal like a charismatic cult leader. Pilgrim could appear charming and persuasive in public. But there was another side of Pop. A pilgrim and this was the side. His family saw all too often. Welcome to murder mystery in the last frontier. I'm your host Robin Fairfield. And I'm broadcasting from the heart of the Kodiak National Wildlife Refuge on Kodiak Island in Alaska. This store is not specifically a Taylor murder. Although I do believe it does involve a murder. I chose the story because it describes the independent streak of many Alaskans and their desire to live without government. Interference it also conveys the friend late open nature of Rural Alaskans and their willingness to trust others and go the extra mile to lend a helping hand to strangers this story also unfortunately reveals the nature of those few individuals who moved to Alaska to escape their sins only to repeat them here and become an ugly stain on the fabric of the Alaska Landscape in most wilderness areas in Alaska. You are likely to find a few people who've chosen to live in such a remote area because they want to escape. Societal norms and public scrutiny. Most of these individuals are good. People who simply don't WanNa be bothered by the government don't WanNa be told how to raise their children or want to be able to follow their own spiritual beliefs. Alaska does have laws though. Alaska is not the wild west. Papa pilgrim probably could have hidden off the grid in the Alaskan Wilderness and continued his horrible rain over his family. Had he not taken on the National Park Service and turned a spotlight on himself and his family? My first podcast episode chronicled the mail. Day murders in tiny McCarthy Alaska the ghost mining town in the heart of the huge Rangel Saint Elias National Park. Most of this story is also said McCarthy and it begins where my last story ended Chris Richards. One of the survivors of the McCarthy Mail Day massacre died when his cabin burned a few days before Christmas in two thousand one at almost the same moment when flames leapt from richards cabin. The Pilgrim clan marched into McCarthy PAPA. Pilgrim country rose and their fifteen children made quite a spectacle in the streets and McCarthy Alaska the strange story. Papa Pilgrim begins much earlier than his arrival in McCarthy Vo. I'll start when he was in high school and went by his legal name. Robert or bobby. Hail Bobby's father I B Hale was a college football star. Who turned down an offer to play for the Washington and instead joined the FBI. Bobby hail grew up in an affluent family in Arlington Texas. He his twin brother Billy and they're younger brother. Tommy attended Arlington Heights. High School Robert Hale was known for his video temper and the love for fighting with his fists. He even trained as a boxer as youth at age seventeen. Bobby ran off with his sixteen year. Old High School Sweetheart. Kathleen or K. K. Connolly the daughter of future Texas governor. John connally John. Connolly's perhaps best remembered for riding in the car with John F. Kennedy in Dallas on the day Kennedy was assassinated Bobby K. eloped and moved to Tallahassee Florida where K- k- soon learned. She was pregnant. Bobby cake had a tumultuous relationship and on Monday April twenty seventh nineteen fifty nine following an explosive argument K. Spent the night with the landlady of their apartment building the following morning K. K. Went to the local police station and asked if they could send her back to her parents and Texas before. The officers had a chance to help her K. K. Return to her apartment where she was found dead a few hours later the back of her head blown away by twenty gauge shotgun. According to Bobby he arrived home and found his wife lying on the sofa with a loaded shotgun threatening to kill herself. He tried to get her to put down the gun but when she refused he lunged for the shotgun and discharged. Cake as death was ruled an accident. Despite the absence of cake as prints on the shotgun and the fact that she was shot in the back of the head after K. K. Died BOBBY RETURNED TO FORT. Worth where he received his ged and attended Texas Christian University for a short while a few months. Later Bobby and his twin brother billy or caught breaking into the Los Angeles apartment of Judith. Exner the rumored mistress of JFK and a woman who supposedly also had ties with Sam Giancana a leading figure in the Chicago Mafia. No explanation ever emerged to suggest. Why the hill brothers broke into extras apartment. But not long after the break in the. Us government awarded one of the largest military contracts in US history to IB hails new employer general dynamics some historians wonder if the brothers were trying to find evidence in ex-nurse apartment about her affair with Kennedy to blackmail the president into awarding. General Dynamics. The defense contract bobby. Hail next wondered from California to Houston and back to California where he ran with the same crowd as Charles. Manson at age. Thirty three bobby. Who was then going by the name Bob? Sun-star met sixteen year old. Carina Rose Bressler near a waterfall in the San Bernardino Mountains. He soon began calling his new girlfriend. Country Rose Hale and rose found job caretaking. A ranch owned by actor. Jack Nicholson in a remote section of northern New Mexico. They stayed on the New Mexico ranch for more than twenty years raising sheep and goats and growing vegetables. Rose gave birth to their first child. Butterfly sun-star later renamed Elijah in nineteen seventy five and every other year. Rose bore another child until she and Hale had fifteen children. Hail experimented with a variety of religions but finally settled on his own self serving form of Christianity. He changed his name to pop a pilgrim and was not shy about sharing his version of the Gospel with anyone. Who would listen? The pilgrim children. Never Watch television and had no access to computers. They received no formal education. And we're naive about the ways of the world. Only Elijah and the oldest boys learned how to read. Hail destroyed all the family. Books except the Bible and a copy of Pilgrim's progress and refused to teach the children how to read or even how to perform simple mathematical calculations. He wanted them to know the scripture only through his teaching he did not want them to read the Bible for themselves and then questioned his interpretation of it hail force children to haul his bath water every night and then allowed them to take baths in his dirty water every three to four days. He bragged that his kids bathed in their undergarments and had never seen a naked body including their own hail demanded total obedience from rose and his children and when he determined they had disobeyed him. He unleashed swift brutal punishment. He whipped them with a leather strap or his belt and he hit them with his fists as a trained boxer. He delivered brutal. Beatings when Halen rose. I moved to New Mexico ranch. They lived miles from their nearest neighbors. But over time people began moving closer to the strange backwoods couple whose children never seemed to go to school hale taught his children. It was okay to steal from neighbor if a neighbor had something they needed when neighbors started accusing hail of theft and threatened to write a letter to Jack. Nicholson asking him to evict the hill family from the ranch. Papa Pilgrim decided. It was time to take his show on the road and move his clan to Alaska once in Alaska. He believed he could live in seclusion with his family. Preaches God's people and act as Lord of his kingdom would hale did not seem to realize is that conditions can be extreme in Alaska and you often must depend on others to survive. The pilgrim family drifted around Alaska for a few years. They lived in fairbanks and then in homer for short time. But neither town offered Papa the seclusion. He desired for his family. He knew as soon as he drove into. Mccarthy in January two thousand two. This was where he wanted to settle. He did not plan to live in McCarthy itself but he wanted his home to be near enough to the small town so he could get supplies. They're on the Weekly Mail plane. Nail dear ish who was in the process of remodeling the McCarthy Lodge. For the summer tourism season was the first to notice the strange arrival of the pilgrim family. The temperature hovered at twenty degrees below zero. But most of the huddled together in the open beds of two pickup trucks. When the trucks roll to a stop in front of the lodge the kids sprang from the beds and began looking around town excitedly. A man with long grey hair along beard a weathered face and piercing blue eyes climbed from the cab of one of the trucks and introduced himself to Garish. As Pilgrim Darioush invited the family into the Lodges Dining Room. Pilgrim had come to McCarthy with only ten of his kids rose stayed back with the younger kids. While Papa chucked out McCarthy and scouted available Property Papa liked what he saw McCarthy and the pilgrims charmed the dozen residents who gathered at the lodge to meet them. The pilgrim kids grabbed fiddles guitars and a mandolin from their trucks and put on an impromptu bluegrass concert for the crowd. The children were cute shy and various religious. Most of the residents welcomed the pilgrims. But at least one in the crowd of townspeople saw papa pilgrim for the con. Man He was papa. Pilgrim soon returned to McCarthy with country rose and their fifteen children. They bought an abandoned mine. Fourteen miles from McCarthy up the mountain and accessible only by the nearly impassable McCarthy Green Butte Road Papa called their new Home Hillbilly Heaven Hill Billy. Heaven could be reached by Snow Machine Horse and even on foot if you didn't mind hiking for a day since it was impossible to drive a truck up the road. Though pilgrim arranged for supplies to be delivered by Bush plane or by horse the freight costs soon became too expensive. However and in the fall of two thousand and two. When the family ran short on funds the pilgrims began to secretly use a bulldozer to clear the old road to town since the road ran through the wrangle. Saint Elias National Park and Park Regulations Prohibited Clearing Park land or altering the old road in any way. Pilgrim did his best to hide his illicit actions from the park service. The following spring when Park Rangers discovered what the pilgrims had done to the road. They began surveying the damage. And prepared a lawsuit against Robert Hale. Aka Papa Pilgrim. Pilgrim wasted. No time preying on the generosity of other Alaskans and asking for their sympathy and support. He posted the letters around McCarthy about the unfairness of the park service. Denying his simple God fearing family access to their home. He invited a television news. Crew Anchorage so it's viewers could see the families simple lifestyle and Papuka talk about how much they needed the old road to haul supplies to their home. In Hillbilly Heaven. The charming news piece created support for the pilgrims and anger against the Park Service. The story about the pilgrims and their simple godly lifestyle. High Above McCarthy in Hillbilly Heaven Spread to national and international news organizations the Washington Post The economist. Cnn and the BBC all did stories on the pilgrims and they're backward lifestyle. Zealous reporters uncovered. The Story of hails passed. But the pilgrim patriarch revelled in all the attention and greedily accepted proffered charity. He pushed his charming in front of the cameras and never missed an opportunity for his family to perform their gospel tunes. For the press residents of McCarthy who had I found the pilgrim's charming and had welcome them with open arms soon began to grow tired of the clan. At the beginning of the two thousand four summer tour season pilgrim dress some of his younger children in ragged outfits and stationed them by the footbridge into McCarthy where they sold tickets for a bus ride up to the Kennecott mine. Other local families already provided a bus service to the mind and the residents McCarthy resented the pilgrims for stealing the business the pilgrims also set up a squatters camp down the street from the McCarthy Lodge where they stayed when they were in town. Not only did they encroach on the properties of others but they brought their livestock into the camp forcing their neighbors to deal with the smell and excrement from the animals. Mccarthy residents repeatedly asked the pilgrims to move their squatters camp but when they refused Stevens Harper a park ranger and a neighbor whose driveway had been partially blocked by the pilgrims possessions approached their camp driving a bulldozer. Two dozen McCarthy residents arrived on the scene to support Harper and Papa. Pilgrim finally moved the camp to a parcel of land. He'd recently purchased at the end of the McCarthy road. Papa pilgrim continue to teach his kids. It was okay for them to steal equipment and animals from others and at the father had a run in with one of the locals he often sit and Joshua and Jacob his two oldest sons to follow or frighten them when Park Service. Rangers attempted to climb the road to talk to pilgrim. Some of the oldest kids at first followed the Rangers on horseback and then blocked their way when they got closer to Hillbilly Papa. Pilgrim liked to preach his version of the Gospel and when others disagreed with him he'd get mad. And leave the people of McCarthy found Papa pilgrim overbearing and self righteous and. They were concerned about the welfare of the kids. The older kids often sported large bruises and people wondered if the bruises had been caused by a rough life outdoors or was there source more sinister. A few realized most of the kids could not read and they wondered if the children had ever received formal schooling. Let me pause for a minute to thank the folks at the Puzzle Game Best Fiends. For sponsoring my podcast. I appreciate your support and I love your game as I was thinking of what I wanted to say about best scenes in this episode. I decided to make a list of my three favorite things about the game number one. The game challenges me. It consists of a series of puzzles and the player must solve each puzzle to move to the next level number two. The puzzles are short. It might take a long time to successfully solve a puzzle but each puzzle lasts only a few minutes. So you can pick up the game. Play it for a bit and put it down again. 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Although the residents McCarthy worried about the pilgrim children most felt it was not their place to interfere in the lives of this devout Christian family who seemed well adjusted and happy no one could know the horrors country rose and her children endured at the hands of Papa. Pilgrim pilgrim began having sexual relations with his oldest daughter Alicia when she was eighteen years old ten years later she her father and her mother often shared the same bed. Hail told his daughter that her mother was old and ugly and no longer excited him. He told Aleisha she needed to get him excited so he could plant his seat in her mother. Alicia hated having sex with Papa. She knew it wasn't right but when she told her father she thought their relationship was simple. Papa told her the Scripture said it was okay for a father to have intimate relations with his oldest daughter. He also pointed out she was helping her. Mother have more children in two thousand four. The pilgrim's Mitt another devout Christian family. Who lived in Palmer Alaska? The Buckinghamshire had nine children. And the Pilgrim. Children were thrilled to meet new friends at first. Even Papa pilgrim like the Buckingham. But then Jim Buckingham. Noticed the many bruises on Alita and suspected her father was physically and sexually abusing her when Buckingham confronted pilgrim about a suspicions. Pilgrim grew angry and ordered his to leave the Buckingham home. While at the Buckingham Alicia told the Buckingham Girls. The Bible discouraged marriage the Buckingham Girls. Who knew the Bible well explained to Aleisha? Bussey was misquoting. The Bible Alicia began to wonder if her father had misquoted the Bible on purpose and she began to question everything. Papa had told her she especially wondered whether the Bible said it was right for father and daughter to have sexual relations. Papa seemed to be losing control of his temper more often when Jonathan the youngest child cried Papa would set the baby on his lap and pinched nose and mouth closed until the baby began to turn blue and pass out this action not only scared Jonathan but also terrified rose in the kids. So Papa began to Pinch Jonathan's nose mouth closed to keep the others in line in January. Two thousand five pop took Aleisha and some of the boys with him. Down the mountain to McCarthy together supplies and they stayed in the shack on the edge of town that night. Papa argued with the boys over something Jim Buckingham had told them he sent the boys out to unload trucks and then lost his temper with Aleisha when she told him he had not been teaching them. What the Bible really said? He took off his belt and began whipping. Alicia when the boys heard her scream they returned to the shack. Alicia tried to run out the door. But Papa grabbed her by the hair and dragged her back inside the cabin. He told the boys to leave so they got on their snow machines and headed up the valley to their home. Papa beat Alicia and raped her repeatedly. He kept her locked in the shack for three days and when he finally took her home he made her wear a ski mask so the others could not see her bruises and her badly swollen face. Aleisha six year old sister. Jerusalem asked deletion remove her ski mask and Jerusalem felt sick when she saw leash obas face. It was so swollen and bruised. She barely recognised her sister. Alicia brothers were shocked and angry when they saw her face and told Papa he was a wrong for beating her Alicia admitted to her. Brother's what Papa had been doing to her. She didn't say he had sexually abused her but she said he had treated her like a wife only a hundred times worse and it was as bad as they could imagine. The older boys confronted their father. And Papa Hit. Josh will with his fist and broke. Josh was knows the four older boys decided to leave home and told Aleisha she needed to leave to after they left. Papa declared his sons lost to the devil and his behavior Goo even more erratic as he continued to beat Alicia and punish the younger kids. For small wrongs. Mama told Aleisha to run away from home but Chaba was too terrified about what Papa would do to her if he khader finally one day when the gasoline supply for the generator ran low. Papa decided to make a quick trip to McCarthy to get gas and Alicia Banou. This was her chance to make a break for it. She announced to the others that she was leaving and Jerusalem said she would go with her. Jerusalem worried Alicia did not have the will to keep herself alive so she wanted to accompany and take care of her sister. Momma called Joseph in Glen Allen and he said he and the other boys would meet Alicia and Jerusalem when they arrived in McCarthy and would keep them safe from Papa Alicia Jerusalem knew they did not have long before papa returned he planned to hurry to. Mccarthy grabbed the gas and rush back up the hill because he was afraid Alicia would escape if he left her alone along. The young women attempted to start one of the snow machines but it would not fire when they looked at the engine. They realized the spark plug had been removed they replaced the spark plug told the family. Goodbye drove a short distance over the snow and the fan belt broke. Jerusalem struggled through the deep snow back to the cabin and started a second machine. They only one a short distance on this no machine though before it ran out of gas and they saw had a fuel line leak. They were running out of time. Before Papa returned and in desparation they transferred to a third snow machine. They travelled a short distance and then pulled off the main trail and hid in the trees. Jerusalem had brought white sheets with them so they covered themselves and the snow machine with the sheets and remained motionless in the snow. Aleisha not even imagine the magnitude of poppas rage. If he found them and once he got near the cabin he would see the stalled snow machines and know something was wrong as they heard. Papa snow machine coming up. The trail Alicia prayed and tried to remain calm when he drove past them. Aleisha told her sister they had to hurry. They had one half hour at best before. Papa would be on their trail when they arrived. Mccarthy their brothers were not at the meeting place a leash pulled US know machine into thick brush and she in Jerusalem crawled under the bowels of a spruce tree hiding from their father and waiting for their brothers. They heard Papa snow machine searching the streets of the town circling and waiting for any sign of his missing daughters Alicia and Jerusalem state under the spruce street for five days eating cold cheese and raisins while the temperature dropped twenty degrees below zero at night. They didn't dare build a fire and they had no sleeping bags so they huddled and waited. They finally decided to sneak down to their town shack and use the phone. They knew they had to be careful though because their father be staying at the cabin when they arrived at the shack they quietly searched the surrounding woods and indeed pop ahead hidden is no machine in the thick brush. The girls hurried back to their hiding place and the next day they entered another cabin and use the phone there to call their brothers. The brothers had misunderstood the original rendezvous spot and had been actually waiting to hear from their sisters. The brothers rescued Aleisha and Jerusalem. And the girls eventually went to live with the Buckingham in Palmer. A few months later when Alicia heard Papa had nearly beaten two year old Joseph to death. She knew it was time to report. Papas many sins to the authorities Robert Hale heard the troopers were after him and he managed to hide from them for twelve days but was eventually found arrested. He stood quietly. While the troopers placed the handcuffs on him hale continued to deny the claims made by his wife and children even after a palmer. Grand jury charged him in September. Two Thousand Five with thirty felony accounts of Rape Assault and incest. He pleaded not guilty to the charges but a year later he changed his plea to no contest in exchange for a fourteen year prison sentence at Hale sentencing hearing in September two thousand seven his wife and all his children except the youngest one addressed the court and their father. Berating him and asking him why he had done such terrible things to them. They told the judge they love their father. And we're trying not to hold any bitterness against him but they begged the judge not to let him out of Prison S. Fourteen of his fifteen children's spoke at the sentencing hearing the spectators cringed while they heard for the first time the horrors the Hale family had endured at the hands of their father Aleisha when she detailed some of her father's most appalling acts toward her sick in the crowd. The children confessed. They thought the world was normal until they met the Buckingham and realized there was another way to live. Robert Hale died in a prison hospital on March twenty. Sixth two thousand eight only eight months into his fourteen year sentence. He was sixty seven years old and had been in poor health for many years with Vance. Roses diabetes and blood clots. He never apologized to his family nor repented for his evil deeds in the he refused to talk to his family. Most of the hailed children moved in with a Buckingham 's where they were taught to read and write. Joseph and Joshua married the two oldest Buckingham Daughters and Alicia is also now married. How do you erase a lifetime of and a childhood where you were taught how to survive on your own in the Wilderness? But we're taught nothing about how do belong to society and treat others hopefully with much support. The hail children will find their way. The residents of McCarthy who had originally found the hail children's sweet in the family charming were horrified when they learned the nightmare. Papa pilgrim created for his family in the cabin on the mountain. In addition to the fifteen children born to Robert and Rose Hale Hale fathered three children from previous marriages. Country Rose was hails fourth wife and probably not his first abuse victim K. K. Connolly was sixteen years old when she married Robert Hale and she died forty four days later from a shotgun blast to the back of her head K. K. was certainly one of Hale's earliest victims if you would like to listen to extra episodes of murder and mystery in the last frontier. I invite you to join the last Frontier Club. I'm celebrating the Grand Opening of the last Frontier Club until the end of June. The names of everyone who joins before. Then we'll be placed in a drawing to win last Frontier Club. Merchandise autographed copies of my books handmade glass jewelry and more. I will of course include the names of those of you who have already joined the club in my drawing you can find the link to the club in the show notes or you can simply go to patriotic dot com. That's Patriot on P. A. T. R. E. O. N. DOT COM and search for murder and mystery in the last frontier. I hope to see you there. Thank you for listening. 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Were All Equal in Our Infinite Ignorance

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01:25 min | Last month

Were All Equal in Our Infinite Ignorance

"Induction also says that prediction is the main reason for the existence of science. But it's not it's explanation. You want an explanation of what's going on even if you can't necessarily predict with any certainty what's going to happen next. In fact knowing what's going to happen nicks with some degree of that can be deflecting and the unknown can be far more fun than having absolute certitude about what tomorrow will bring. This brings us to the related point. The sciences never settled. We should always be free to have new creativity new conjecture you never know where the best ideas are going to come from. And you have to take everything that's made in good faith seriously. And so this idea that the science is settled or the sciences closes nonsense in implies that we can all agree upon the process with which we come up with new theories rather through creativity and conjecture than the door's always open for new people with new ideas to come in. And do that. As papa said we'll equalling an infinite ignorance Even if someone climbs expertise by might even be valid in client expertise. There's an infinite number of things they do not know and those infinite number of things. I do not not affect the things they do. Not so the child who is coming through school. Who is not expert in anything can still come up with an id that can challenge the foundations of the greatest expert because the expert like the child is ignorant about a whole bunch of things that could have era that does not preclude someone else who lacks that. Fine tuned knowledge from being able to point hat. They is an era and he's a better id.

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Looking Back On A Season of Papa PhD  Conversations, Reflections, and Common Themes

Papa Phd Podcast

10:49 min | 11 months ago

Looking Back On A Season of Papa PhD Conversations, Reflections, and Common Themes

"Hi there. Reaching. The end of season one of Papa Peach and today I just wanted to thank all the listeners out there who've been following the show around the world. It's been quite humbling to see the show grow as it did in this first year. So again, one of the things that I wanted to today's to thank you you were out there thinking about your. About your masters degree and thinking about what your career can look like in the future. I really hope that the conversations that I've been sharing on the show have inspired you in your journey. Welcome to pop up each with David Mendez the podcast where we explore careers in life after Grad school with guests who have walked the road less traveled and have unique stories to tell about how they made their place in the world of constantly evolving rules. Get ready to go off the beaten path and hop on for an exciting new episode of Papa PD. I feel extremely grateful for having had guests that spanned so many different academic domains from the life sciences to engineering to psychology to literature. The reach of these conversations has by far surpassed. What I had imagined was possible when I set out to launch the PODCAST. So I also want to send out my heartfelt thanks to all the guests who have been unpopularity on this first season. Looking back on all these conversations and thinking of you, the listener who is thinking about your future about what path to take about what decisions to make. I feel that one of the common threads having come out of all these conversations and that he's may be the most important. was allowing yourself to experiment during your graduate degree, not only with your research. But importantly, outside of it, this can take the form of getting involved in student societies volunteering in outreach projects being part of communities around supports or creativity. But also internships and industry or taking breaks where you try something completely different before embarking on a new chapter of your academic life. Another common thread that I feel is very important has to do with how you perceive yourself as an academic as a researcher as a candidate for a job. Coming out of graduate school may not be aware of a few important skills you have developed but that are not technical that don't have to do directly with your subject matter. One of the very important skills that you developed by writing a Master's or a PhD thesis. He's your capacity to analyze, digest and make sense of large complex data. Hand in hand with this is your capacity for problem solving. And these are all skills that are highly prized by employers. Another area will you organically developed skills during your degree is project management A, lot of positions out there in the job market require the capacity to take on large projects, complex projects and be able to plan set milestones defined goals. And then work towards reaching those goals. This is another of the aspects that have again and again been mentioned by guest on the show. If, you listen back to the different episodes to the different interviews. You'll find more of these skills to do with the specific domain each guest works in currently. So go and explore season one interviews listen to the guests who are working in domain that interests you. You'll see you'll find advice you can use to start building plan for yourself. Now. A lot was stalled during season one about transferable skills but a lot was also told about the blind spots, the things you don't naturally come out of graduate school knowing and being prepared for. One of the main ones has to do with preparing your CV and preparing to interview in a non. Academic Setting. If you listen back to the interviews where we spoke about job hunting and interviewing outside of academia. The main advice that came up again, and again was to tailor your CV to each potential employer and specifically to give emphasis to the soft skills you have accrued while performing research and keeping to a minimum. One guests even said to a single line anything to do with your publications, presentations or academic awards. He need to take a point I approach where the person reading your CV. Will know right away that you are a good candidate for the position. The second aspect has to do with interviewing. You may have done a bunch of oral presentations poster presentations, even elevator pitches to do with your research. And the performance skills you developed we'll definitely serve you in an interview setting. The difference is that when interviewing for a position industry, for example. Rather than listing your skills, the techniques you master the tools you can use. The actual goal of the exercise is for the interviewer to assess whether you are a good match for the position and for the team. So there will be a component of body language showing knowledge of the organization's mission in structure and having a good story to tell about how you came to be sitting in front of them for this interview. This is something you don't learn graduate school, but it's something you can prepare for one of the points. My guests stressed as being key in your career exploration and in preparing for interviews is doing your homework about the organization offering the position and ideally reaching out to people in similar positions and asking them for informational interviews around coffee or these days on video conference. Asking someone who has followed the same path that you want to embark on pointed questions about the reality of the job about remuneration about company culture is the best way to get to know what interviewers might be looking for in a candidate. In. Parallel with this, especially, if this is your first time interviewing. The other technique that was mentioned in recommended was rehearsing. In front of a mirror with friend. Preparing to deliver your story in the best way possible and to make it clear point of why you're the right candidate for the position. If you know that type of questions commonly asked even better prepare and rehearse your answers for them to. This way on the day of the interview, you'll be able to focus on the human interaction rather than on the content and show yourself in the best possible. In this first season, we also talked a lot about life balance and mental health. Stress is a part of our modern life and life as a researcher has a few particular flavors of stress. But my guests were clear about three components that can help you strike a balance and have a healthy journey. Physical Exercise Move Econo- team sport. Stay fit. Having a community outside the lab. Team sports do this too, but you can get into a club started student group. And finally including me time in your weekly schedule. This. said it is possible that other factors you have no control of our affecting your inner balance. If this is the case find professional help and take the necessary steps to heal. This may or may not lead to resuming your research and it's fine. What is important above all is that you stay healthy. With this note on mental health and on finding a healthy balance during graduate studies I'm going to wish you a great week a lot of success in your life and career exploration, and thank you again for being a listener of the show. But before I go I want to officially announced that next week we'll be the season finale special. To make sure that you don't run out of. PODCASTS. Listen this summer I've teamed up with the what are you going to do with that podcast and we've done a twin episode. Next Thursday the last interview of both our seasons he's going to air at the same time. I will be on their show and then he says there host will be on Papa. PhD. So, be sure to tune in and witness this academic podcast Collab- I'll be expecting you. And if you want to help the podcast, there are two simple things you can do. Number One Sharon episode that you really like with a friend or colleague. That's a great way to help and to spread the word. Number two if you're on an APP that allows rating or commenting, do that leave a star rating and leave a comment? That will help other people out there find the podcast enjoying the adventure. And it also gives me a chance to open a dialogue with all of you which I really enjoy. So, thank you again. Happy Listening and see you next week. And now for a short message. If, you're preparing to launch a podcast. You may be asking yourself what hosting platform to use. I launched puppies de on blueberry because I wanted to professional service that would interface with my wordpress website. That would robustly broadcast Papa PhD to all platforms. And that would allow me to grow my podcast in years to come. If you're starting a serious podcast project, do consider one of the first podcasting hosts out there offering state of the art services including is certified statistics based on years of experience in the podcasting space. So go to pop each dot com for slash blueberry that is spelled B. L. U. B. R. Y. or use the Promo Code Papa PhD. Bloom, in one word on the blueberry website to unlock a one month free trial of the platform. Thanks for listening to another episode of the Papa Peach podcast. 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Season Finale  Danni Reches  Part 2  Work, Life, and Podcasting as a PhD Researcher

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36:33 min | 10 months ago

Season Finale Danni Reches Part 2 Work, Life, and Podcasting as a PhD Researcher

"Welcome to part two of the special season finale of Papa Up. In collaboration with the, what are you going to do with that podcast from the nervous center for the study of law under extreme conditions at the University of Haifa. The second part than his talks about her life outside her research. During this conversation, we had a great exchange about working versus volunteering and about the importance of non research activities in terms of networking for your academic and professional life. I in a way learns that academia is about rejection you will have to face rejection, but the thing about its end, what I learned about it is that that's okay. You just need to find a way for yourself to deal with stats do not stay off that personally like you're not getting a scholarship you getting into conference or your article being dismissed doesn't mean that you're failure it doesn't mean anything about you as a person and that's what we're saying beats the is a lifestyle, but it isn't the only thing in your life you need to find these other things that are important to you. Welcome to Papa PhD with David Mendez The podcast where we explore careers and life after Grad school with guests who have walked the road less traveled and have unique stories to tell about how they made their place in the world of constantly evolving rules. Get. Ready to go off the beaten path and hop on an exciting new episode of Papa. PhD. So Welcome to part two of my interview with Danny. Harris and in part one we had just Finished by by talking about what are they today? As Beach, D researcher was in her domain. But in part to I'd really want Danny to focus on. What's your projects have been you know and? One of them we already mentioned and is quite evident but. Other projects you've been developing besides just your PhD research and the idea is also to see if we can take out of that, how that enriched your experience as a PhD student and how listeners out there could maybe take some some example of that too. Also wherever they are You know find a group of like minded people and also enrich their experience and make it a a richer one and A. How to make their PhD a more diverse experience than just doing their research? That's where I wanted to say. I've been to a lot of different things and this is something my supervisor has warned me for so. Now, a bit more cautious at I'm trying to do it a bit less, but I've been slowed down by the whole situation with corona. Anyway. So I just want that to be a little bit of a warning when I start talking about all the fun things that I did because you definitely have to keep in mind how much a person can do without burning out. By As let me start with w about my love for conferences, especially if they're paid for and abroad. in a way, it allowed me to keep traveling, which is so much love. In, my first year Beastie, I managed to spend three weeks in. Australia where never been before somewhere in the mountains beautiful place. at the form. And there are. A huge conference on different topics with two hundred. Students, not only be as there were just a few these most of them were in. From all over the world is shared my flats with someone from Pakistan right as an Israeli. F from the Philippines ends from South Korea and we went to arts events and I a events conferences about politics about health. All kinds of fields bunket, Moon spoke there prisons of Australia's spoke there I was invited as far as Israel delegation do very fancy dinner with people who worked at important banks and things like that. So this was like the big thing that I was very excited about enemies I might give per station about my research about a Mike Proposal and I got some really useful feedback from people from the field. So this was absolutely great. So in a way, it was a lot of fun at for me. It was free, but it was also different work because I got that feedback that I needed. Has to continue to projects, and then I've also spent some time in Brazil. which was the first time that was really great and I gave myself a few extra days in Rio. also about migration on a learned a lot about migration in the Global South 'cause, I focus very much Europe. And then I've done my trips to Germany for research. So this way, I get to travel been to Cairo in January for sight that have seen a beer minutes. For a conference of the. National Organization for Migration that's connected to the UN. And I presented my research on the bow dare. which was pretty cool and there will so policymakers there which is something I'm very much interested in going into after. Doing. The interesting. So also some networking definitely. And just to see how day spoke about similar topics outside of academia. So these are things that I love doing that definitely projects because you have to apply for these things especially if they involve money right and they need to plan all of your trip started dime and only Gives you a flight ticket place stay but doesn't say anything about the preparation of your actual doc or bolster at the conference. And then there you're also working 'cause you're networking is about your topic trying to get out be volts. Things like that. But for me, it was very motivating. It's It's everything I ever wanted to travel for work right. And besides that, I've always works next to my degrees I am getting scholarship, but it's not enough to survive off. So I'm working also for the center where I study. And they're responsible for organs of guest lectures like getting the guest lecturers in also from countries to speak to our students in English we also have trips for students plans, for example, to embassies here in Israel. So they can see what their options are after the grief. And also conferences and Colloquia. So this way I, really got to learn how to organize the these events and be working on something that's not so much research, but still helps with the network. So that's what I did besides that. I'm doing a lot of sports. I go to gym five times a week in the other episode in which you are. I'm the host of what are you going to do that I talk about my passion for big box but that's not the only thing I do I also do some Zimba and Pilatus. And it really helps me to do the physical exercise at the end of a day of studying and sitting behind my computer. I mean I feel much more comfortable with my body and it also makes me relaxed it's an hour outside of my brain. Really. So I, commend. It's been proven that that besides the physical, the physical aspect of saying fit there's a whole mental aspect of physical activity for sure if. Doing sports is considered less. Let's say as a treatment. Will you have your taking enough? You staying healthy. That's good. Very, good and it's very important for all graduate students. Because again, these projects that take a long time, you can kind of get into this tunnel vision. And forget about easy thing like social life staying healthy and it's very very, very important and then the last thing that I actually wanted to mention. is or suppose costs what are you going to do that? which is the show host which I'm not doing alone. I'm doing it together with my colleague who does the editing and also helps very much our social media accounts. You can also find us on facebook twitter instagram. And that allows me to meet all of these people that are doing or half done. Things. In different fields talking to be from international people from stem but also people in migration studies in other fields to talk to them about how they got to where they are now be it's at the entrance to the beach the. In the post office or even accidents just landing their first ship for example. into to hear how they do the opposite. Just the questions that you're asking me also to give some tips and recommendations on how to deal with all these things. I definitely want to ask you after you after a season of of what are you going to do with that? You know a couple of lessons in teams that you see develop but I I want to ask you something which has to do with working for the department that you're at and these kind of Altech alternative academic jobs they're out there and there's something important about them, which is there at an arm's reach their. At your department something that's fairly easy to implement and from what I hear often these organizations they know that you're researchers. So the expectations they have, you know they kind of know that you have to dedicate time to your research. How comfortable would you be recommending the listeners to look for these types of jobs around them and what would you say you're already talked about networking but what would you say other positive aspects would you say working? With. The department have brought you a in your life today. Well. First of all, it's very helpful to just have the extra pocket money, of course. And then and then to have connections of, of course, my supervisor was spotted at center of the supervisor of the data spoke about with spotted at center people who already know you that than think. Okay. So this girl speaks a few languages, European languages. This we need a European study center She will probably be dedicated to it because she will also be working with these supervisors and that's very great. So it's a little bit of an easier way in. and it gives you the extra pocket money Other things I think great about it is like I said, went a lot of conferences and I love doing data but it takes some time out of your job, right like when I was in Australia three weeks when I was in Cairo I was there for four weeks to. So, because the people I worked with are in academia and understood, I'm first of all of easy students and then they're co worker they allow me to do these things and to make work after or from a distance, and that's how it works and I'm not sure if I would have been able to do the same thing if I had a job outside of academia. That's That's basically you said, you said what I was thinking about. So am not going to repeat it, but that's very very important and again because it's it's so easy. It's not something you don't have to okay I'M GONNA Leave University and go to the job that's on the other side of town. You know the the there's many reasons why this is a very, very logical and also interesting thing to look at the jobs around you in the department in the university where you are. Now, the other thing that I wanted to know about that is because you also talked about organizing. Outings for the students CETERA. So there's also an aspect of project management. So where I where I'm going is. It feels like you're developing other skills that you would not be developing if you were just doing your research. Am I am I wrong now you're very right think I want to add to my answer on the other questions. You just ask me which also related to this question is that by working for the place that you're studying at the also learn a lot about the institution you're studying in you learn how it works. You'll learn what is expects of different expected of different people work. They're all the administrative workers. How much workload they actually have why it is that sometimes, they're not able to answer your email immediately So it makes you understand a lot more of the whole system. which could make it a lot more easier for you to go through that system whenever you need something. So that's very helpful while you're doing the beach and I also think if he later won a stay in that and have a position in that institution that you need to know what is like, right? And how it works so. Of course, due to networking. When you do when you organize events that are outside of the university example, these outings than you also connects to people in embassy sent people in different places. So you have those connections. So if later on, you don't to stay in that institution new GONNA, go to a different university or you want to go to into different job altogether you half people here and there who know that you can organize conference. That you have what it takes to talk to different people's racer locations arranges speaker to maybe speak their yourself public speaking. Also, very important thing to learn which you also do at conferences or. are definitely skills that you can actually write only resume next to doing research the well in those two for sure for sure and and. Very, important not to forget to include them. Even you know you're even though it's not a gimmick stuff it it shows your dedication to to projects that you're implement implicated in. It shows that you have the your have enough drive to to do different things plus plus carry on research, and eventually if you're if you leave academia. It'll be really an asset into in terms of of your CV of showing Oh this person. Wants to develop projects and and you know they they. Clearly they They have a lot of energy a lot of drive and look at all the skills that they have developed while at the same time getting a degree by totally agree. And now for a short message, if you're preparing to launch your podcast, you may be asking yourself what hosting platform to use. I launched Papa PhD on Blueberry because I wanted to professional service that interface with my wordpress website that would robustly broadcast Papa PhD to all platforms and that would allow me to grow my podcasts in years to come. If you're starting a serious podcast project, do consider one of the first podcasting hosts out there offering state of the art services including is certified statistics based on years of experience in the podcast space. So go to cope each dot com for slash blueberry that is spelled B. L. U. B. R. Y. or use the Promo Code Papa, peach deep blue in one word on the blueberry website to unlock a one month free trial of the platform and now back to the interview. One thing one thing that's come up in another interview and again, this depends on where you come from your education you know your upbringing and and whether you're a first generation in in graduate school. You know one thing that you may not be conscious of is the importance of establishing a rapport with professors, and in this case, you know because you even getting implicated in in the department, it's even deeper, but it's important. senecas networking and I'm maybe I'm going a bit long here but. Some people can see networking as negative. I've had that but I think he's just natural and like you were saying if you. Organically you create a rapport with your professors or groups around you somehow this will. Grow your network, and it's almost one hundred percent sure that someone in this network will be the person who will look at you say Oh did you look at this opportunity and then it leads to something professionally eventually yet but the way you're doing it and even working for the department is even a step further. So I think it's a great example to follow. So. Listeners out there. Look around see what's being done something that interests you that you might volunteer for even if you can if you have enough funding that that's also another. Avenue I'm not sure though if I would actually agree with that It's a good thing to be out there and to develop different skills that will in the future help you finding other jobs. But being a students or any student even and really being considered often as one one on the bottom of the ladder. It's very easy for people to abuse that's and to expect things from especially these people to do things for free and I always try to say which is difficult struggle with his sometimes do sometimes I think something is very interesting one to do it but then they don't offer anything in return and Oh, I'm. Going to just turn down this amazing opportunity because they're not paying me and the answer should be if you can. If you're that privileged right no, you shouldn't be doing that because then these people are going to keep doing that and then you normalized this whole system, it's important to be appreciated. You got into that beach deed because of your skills and because of what you can do and people should in away reward you for that. I agree and again. Saying this thinking of having an idea in mind and I was doing my pc in a department to do with neuroscience and every year they have this brain awareness week and you know they they prepare students to go to primary schools, high schools to teach kids science and it's volunteering I. It's not. It's not something that that is paid. Right? It depends. On what it is of course exactly. Exactly. This is one week in the year where you do this and you know you need force you need to. If you've got a volunteer, you need to be something that you know that it's going to fulfil you and that you takings though you're not taking money from it, you're taking something important for you for it exactly of course. If. You're doing a job the whole year for free maybe there's there's something wrong there, but let me put it like this for example. So in my situation's different this I, have this job and I am getting paid for this but if there would be a university that would say, okay, you are these students and you're getting a scholarship for doing the HD. So now we're halfway through the semester ends we WANNA do a conference, but we have known to do. So when US organized friends four US go and do it, then I would be like, no this was not part of the contracts. This is very easy to ask someone in this position because they might be afraid to sell you know. It's a lot of. War that also takes away time to do sports and to do your research, and then I would say, no, this is not okay to ask this is not a kind of daring that I could support. With fair and and I agree. And I think the example I gave is quite different from that to racist. It's very, you know it's specific frame of time very short and and. There's anyway there's there's a fun aspect there a few few into science communication. But no I agreed we shouldn't a enable any sort of abuse in that sense I I agree with you. And and Thanksgiving, that example it kind of puts it all into into context. We've talked about what experience you're accruing by by doing this work There's the networking aspect and we talked about the all the physical activities that you do and It's it's quite impressive but now so about the podcast. So you talked about what what are you going to do with that The podcast is. Supported by the Minerva, center can just tell a little bit about what the mission of the center is. Exactly. Yeah. So the Minerva Center for the rule of law under extreme conditions is also research center. That is focused very much on international law. we have students there from all over the world also Israelis local, but we also have people coming in from everywhere last year we had someone from Greece the year before that, we had a fellow from Germany. And every year or try to have every year also a group of students coming in for about a week or so to really do seminar. Where also get to speak about their own research, themselves are denby St students who also get feedback from experts in the field who either also come to see us at the university or do it online. This is really great. This projects of either as well. I joined last year and It's it's so very helpful and it's so much fun to be with peers and talk about their very interesting research which last year was about terrorism and belligerency. Yes so Rosenzweig, right. And just just before you on the Youtube Channel is there were some of these seminars are that's right. We have a close we have a closed session a in which I am joining in which we really talk about ongoing research. So this is that other people can really see or take anything from it's under the safe environments, but then in the afternoons. We have actual lectures and these are records. And you can see these again on the Youtube channel of the Minerva Sensor. So you can just search for maneuver center at the University. FIFA on Youtube and there you can see lectures have been held in the last few years about these topics like terrorism but also topics of students that I'm working with right now, we that bills had as guests on our cost, of course, and one of them is, for example, studying. Urban Planning he's architects and He studies how the city of Haifa where we live in. Has Overcome conflicts. Absolute at forty, eight, four between different groups that live in the city. Will definitely put the link for the Youtube Channel, on the notes of the episode because I think it's GonNa be interesting for people to go to go see and hear about what all all all you've been mentioning talking about. Can actually also see us instead of only hear us. That's it. so. So. That's the mission and that's the model of the me nervous center and Imagine the idea for the podcast stemmed from I. Guess Getting these people and thinking why not bring the experiences and the knowledge of the people to a wider audience is because we've had so many amazing people from all over on. So many different topics. And you know has been in this four while he's himself also writing speech. and I think it was his idea right? This is his baby related. To say you know why don't we just air this see whoever is willing to listen to it and see if we can contribute to this conversation I think he realized back then over thirty what some of the topics would be where I jumped into it and volunteer to be the host. because I, thought it would be very interesting to talk to these other people which also helped me. And I'm very comfortable speaking in English So it was a good match. Even though I still make mistakes they at least I am doing it. I I thought okay. I'm GonNa Talk to these people about the research topic But as I went along the way I started realizing that I heard similar things, I? Mean everyone has their own story and their own very unique journey. But in a way I always hear similar struggles. What was difficult about doing the Beach Beastie? Where did they find supports? How did they get through its or sometimes? Not Get through it, which is also okay. And so along the way of started focusing also in my questions as a host more on those things. And I think we have a wonderful products because of the people that we have interviewed definitely and the the cool thing and the feedback I've been having is a lot from people who are at the beginning of their either the PTR or even their masters and who feel by seeing the examples of other people and seeing that there's not just one way or one tract for. It makes them feel more confident than less anxious about what's coming up in about the after and yet that's what kind of drives me to do this and I think you guys to that's what our title is all about right like I'm a political scientist and I'm studying migration. So what people ask me I is, what are you going to do with that? And this is a question that's very difficult for me to answer because of something that I'm only going to have starting about it two years from now. So you have a little bit of an idea, you have hopes and dreams. But it's it's hard to really see it for what it is. But the good thing is that now by having these conversations, brain even unknowingly is start to accrue to to get some like you're doing for your project, your your brain is starting to To get some data and eventually, you'll see that going to your two, three, four by four I'm sure now you're you're going to have a much better picture and you you won't feel like giving you're doing a leap of faith into the future. You're you're just talking about people about talking with people about their journey. It. You know it shows you avenues hadn't imagined for is also like you said shows that, oh, I'm not the only one struggling basically everyone at a point of their has some sort of struggle and all of those little things are things that kind of boost you to feel less anxious and eventually to kind of start seeing the puzzle. Being built in front of you. Yeah I mean I do hope. So let's see what time brings but I already I already learned so much I'm sure I'm sure in in in you're gonNA much more now. You've learnt so much and that's exactly the segue for for what I wanted to ask which is. Just from season one just for the sake of the listeners out there. Maybe what was the most surprising that you learned that you? saw come back in one two, three interviews what what's kind of not shocked you. Got You thinking Oh. Okay. This is interesting. all of these people or Mentioning the same thing right well, without giving too many spoilers I'm not sure if it's like shocking or super Super knew anything like that to me. It's really like more of a slow eye opener that step by step I, keep saying Oh yeah. That's also a way of looking at it. And sometimes, even complete opposites. Like a once I heard from one of the guests COA he's conferences I hate going, there is so much work and I was like, oh, Gosh, like why we're doing all of these conferences like this is not what I should be doing, and then the next episode I heard from someone Oh and I love going to conferences in go to all of them because I get so much feedback in it so helpful and I, was like, oh so it is okay. That's just one example. And without. Thinking of it in a negative way. I think would I really learns which I didn't realize because I've. Actually submitted my first article to a journal when the growing crisis was happening back in April which is now under review. So yeah, super exciting but I didn't do any of those things before that and I did manage to get into these conferences that also made me feel pretty good about myself or at least about the application that I'd written I didn't experience too much rejection yet. I mean I experienced it in in different ways. Sometimes, I didn't get good feedback. Of course, I have this reviewer of my proposal who didn't have very nice things to say sometimes I was writing something and it just wouldn't work out or had thoughts and. Someone else had written that this was duly wrong zinc. So I had to drop all of this writing that I had already done. You know things like this do happen but the hadn't experienced manager rejections yet. And I think what I got through all of these episodes is everyone was. Almost constantly being rejected and I in a way learns that academia is about rejection. And I'm saying this not only in a negative way. Yes you will have to face rejection. But the positive thing about it's what I learned about it is that that's okay. You just need to find a way for yourself to deal with stats do not stake all that personally like you not getting a scholarship, you not getting into a conference or your article being dismissed. Doesn't mean that your failure it doesn't mean anything about view person right and that's what we're saying bt is a lifestyle, but it isn't the only thing in your life you need to find these other things that important that are important to you. So, if one paper gets rejected. That sides. You need to deal with that are allowed to cry over DADS to complain about it to be sad. That's all right but you also need to. Gear up get back out there on the stands that you are not a failure. And that's something that I've learned I think that's the biggest thing I've learned from us. Then I I almost don't want to say anything else because at the end of the episode I always like to. For a last word of advice and I think it was just so beautifully put what you just said. That unless you would have something else that you wanted to add really I was just going to ask you like if people want to reach out maybe you can share also how to listen to the podcast but if want people want to reach out how find you On Social Media Cetera. Did you want to add something else because this message that you just said is one of the most important ones and I just don't want to spoil it by by wanting to tax something to the. And Yeah no I think that's the most important thing and if you WANNA learn more about how I've come to learn that you're not a failure that rejection is okay. As something we're going to have to deal with than I just WANNA mention go and listen to our both costs doesn't only like yours focuses on the career, but also about the academic journey itself so you can find us first of all on social media. Murray boast about our guests ends about their research See what we actually look like on facebook twitter instagram. And, you can listen to our episodes by finding us on spotify also new tube on the Minerva Channel and on any major both costs platform such as Really. Anything audio have Google stitcher. These are all the big ones that you know. Exactly. yes or find us there. What are you going to do with ads or at sports? Are you going to do what to do without where to spell this? The number two again, I love leave all of those links in the notes page. Then he had a lot of fun hearing about Your Story I. Think we touched upon different things even unexpected things. that I found a very important and and thank you and thank you for sharing some really really important message especially this last one about. Rejection and and about not over identifying with your work with your research. The research is something you do. It's not something you are. You're you are. Much richer being than than just the scientist and that's why it's important to also cultivate these other sides of your life the social physical activity for some people, it's going to be creative aspect. Do that and you'll see it'll being it'll make your whole graduate school experience much more balanced one. So. Again, thank you so much for having come on Papa Peachy and I just want to remind everyone that there's a sister episode that's up today. At the same time on what to do with that. Thank you. Danny you're welcome. Thank you. Thanks for listening to part two of my conversation with Danita his now find what are you going to do with that on your podcast APP and listen to the sister episode. We're Danny interviews me. and. Season one of their podcast where they have great conversations about life as an academic researcher with diverse and interesting guests. This is the last episode of season one of Papa peachy. Thank you for being a fateful listener. If. 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Papa PhD Pearls of Wisdom  2019 Season

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26:49 min | 1 year ago

Papa PhD Pearls of Wisdom 2019 Season

"Welcome to episode Twenty Six popper PhD being the last episode of Twenty Nine Thousand Nine hundred instead of an interview and this week. I'm bringing your collection of inspiring full of wisdom the guests of shared so far. I hope you enjoyed them. Having sneak a happy sharing welcome to papa. PhD With David Mendez. The podcast where we explore careers in life after Grad school with guests who have walked the road less traveled and have unique stories to tell about how they made their place in the world of constantly evolving rules get ready to go off the beaten path and hop on for an exciting new episode of Papa PhD. I'd really love you the audience to play an active role in the show. So if there's a theme you'd like to see covered on the show or if there's a guest did you like me to interview head over to anchor dot. FM FOR SLASH CAPUCCI and drop us a voice message to be featured on a future episode on the PG see website you can also subscribe to our newsletter and get our resource sheet at the bottom of every page and you can also leave us a written message contacts page. Welcome to the show on episode one. The new Murchison shared about the importance of allowing self to think big when thinking of career opportunities. I think the the first biggest thing would be To to think big about what the possibilities are you know Well I think you know things like like this project. You're working on you know things it's like this podcast really help people to to realize there are a lot of opportunities to raise the go in addition to just you know continuing on academia right. So you know. Don't be scared to kind of be a little bit audacious about what what kind of direction you might be able to go into And to really think about what. What's what's GonNa work for you when it's going to resonate for you And then you know to you know work figuring out how you're gonNA spend yourself how you're going to and how you're GonNa get all personal brand how you're GonNa you know how you're GonNa spin it so that you're the right person to do that. Ah On episode. Two Joel. mccower talked about the importance of staying curious. I you still learning stuff. Yeah I thought I've got a PhD. I'm an intelligent person But when I was doing my MBA. I realized that If you're not not studying something quite rigorously you know. You don't feel union in especially of course I was in my late forties doing my mba as well but You don't Your mind does begin to stagnate so keep leading cause after a year of my MBA. I felt I was twenty years younger mentally again. My agility amd back and that was great you know is a great feeling To I would say just keep letting no matter what it it is do Of course you know Learn about extraterrestrial life. You know If physicals search for extraterrestrial life or learn about anything I think that's really important again. Every opportunity increases you'll network on episode three Mark Roberts shares. Why should never feel like you're stuck professionally? The key mindset is just to keep reminding yourself that if what you're doing say that new job outside Academian started if it doesn't live up to your expectations that doesn't mean that you made the wrong and that somehow failed so you really should have just stayed in academia. Now that's not that you can always leave. That new job can find another the job either in the same field perhaps discovered that field just isn't for you so if something brand new again you're really never stuck in this. You convince yourself you're stuck and so What what I would really recommend is that everybody is their own pep squad? So when things aren't aren't working out just keep telling yourself that things will turn around you one way or another on episode four Rob Hutchison talks about why it's important to identify your strong suits. I I would say to identify what you are good at and what you enjoy doing so they may not not necessarily be the same thing but hopefully future job would contain elements of both and next. I would say start working on your brand early so so this would mean developing your CV and your Lincoln page but also putting together your elevator pitch to summarize your profile. This is something that you should have prepared to recite someone on its opportunities arises and then third I would say. Don't be afraid to take a leap to try new things and do things that scare you like. I mentioned before some people might like the idea of just doing the same old repetitive tasks and over and over again. But if you want to progress in your career keep things interesting and do more meaningful work and makes a real difference whether it be for your clients or for anyone else that I think they need to take risks and put yourself out there. On episode six Fiona Robinson Talks about the importance of finding your passion. If you're doing research I think that the two top things you're at are transferable from that are your critical critical thinking skills and your ability to take a big project rated into pieces analyze those. Get those done tied back together and bring her back to the whole. I think you can do that pretty much. Anyone doing research is being back. Then you can do anything you can. You can take on any kind of challenge. So then it's finding where do you want to put your allergies. What are you passionate about? I know they say you know do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life. Whatever you still have to work? It's not always fun and not everybody gets to work doing what they. But there's gotta be something but you're doing or that you wish you in that that draws on episode seven Philippa Kereta Bauza talks about. Why you deserve to be where your today? Life is really really stressful nowadays in every field so you really stressful but if you are doing winging it is because it deserves and love your child as it's been hard in win nowadays the working. Where'd you live science will? Is Everything Itar and so rest. This will take all these days on episode eight. Emily Blue Roberts tells us what's important to have a side hustle during your PhD. Start doing actual work outside of your role role as a graduate student OR POST DOC By work I don't necessarily mean paid work. Although that is preferable it could be volunteer work but anything just just to gain any kind of experiences outside of your primary one as a researcher As a student as a trainee because working saying if it's a side hustle or a volunteer position or an internship or whatever it is gives you again those additional perspectives That you might be seeking at this this time and you know usually something you can put on your CV. Because a lot of the the fear I think at this stage is around I don't have any work experience. I don't have any reason working experience. All employers are looking for the PhD plus two years. He's Mary's as an entry level position. Well of course we know. That's negotiable right But something you can do while at the same time you're finishing her PhD. You can start that work experience clock even on a part time basis just by reaching out and having some of these other Arab experiences in episode nine killer look shows advice on finding a fulfilling career. Yeah so that is A. It's obviously a huge task to that transition and to even begin to understand what you want to do and I think one of the main things is needs to do. Your research find vocation that is profitable fulfilling but also can provide value to your audience and make you feel like you're making a valuable contribution And that's not always the easiest thing to do but if you do that research in you you have a decent idea that something's actually going to earn your money and filling. That's ninety percent of the battle on episode ten to Merle. Luke talks about why it's important to allow yourself to try new things see opportunities that often interest you even if they don't fit neatly into the path you think you're supposed using footage air supposed all along if it's interesting to you pick it up at the very least it's nothing you learned that it's Tea and it isn't for you at the very most host in a few really good at it and it could lead to an exciting career opportunity or you know like Barnes here extracurricular opportunity or you just never know what's going to be there unless you refunds and like. I said it doesn't have to be something that we'll be predetermined eighties in episode eleven. Chris can talk about resources available to people looking into enterpreneurship to produce We're at a time where there are loads of resources available to people coming out of Grad school especially with entrepreneurial unreal ideas on. There's tons of really good accelerator programs. Be At y combinator or at creative destruction lab program which is a program that we did That was phenomenal. But honestly you know the biggest value to a lot of those programs is that it introduces you to Lots of other founders. Lots of other people trying to do similar things It may not be the exact same company or the exact same technology but but they're all struggling with different varieties of the same problems And so talking to them can be hugely helpful. In episode Twelve Adriana Bankston talks about the importance of learning to tell your story learn how to talk about your science to other individuals and other groups who are not scientists so even if you have friends that are not in science and I'll talk to them and see if they understand what you're doing taking classes and You know being able to. I think I think the way that we started as creating resources that you know if institutions may have them or if they don't have them it's always helpful to try and create on yourself south in episode thirteen. Dr Kiki Sanford Talks About Imposter Syndrome. And how to deal with it. So imposter auster syndrome is something that we are hearing a lot about these days Just know that if you are in graduate school you have gotten there for a very good reason and you are a capable intelligent human being and You know find other people people that you can connect with. I think that is number one. Humans are social beings. And if we keep all these things to ourselves it's it's damaging in the end and we need to be able to connect with other people about about these thoughts of this this thing this thing. We're attempting graduate. School is a long a long and arduous adventure. And you it. You're not always going to feel like you're winning right. It's not always winning. There's a lot of losing. There's a lot of failure and it makes you feel really bad and it makes you doubt yourself So find other people. I mean if you don't have have a great relationship with your P.. I find other Grad students find other advisers but you you need to search for those people all You know sometimes they come to you but you need to be willing to open your eyes and see them as a as a possible. Small connection in Episode Fifteen David try it talks about the importance of taking part in student. Life pick something limit you like. Don't give up on too early because sometimes it was done one semester in whatever program and I don't like it so I have to find something else. Life moves quickly a Don't stick to something for ten years if you know you hate it after five and I'm thinking to myself in litigation but as far as the study goes just be diligent. Make friends with the students and something I also forgot is make friends with the professors and not friends. Buddy buddy just left the professors know that you're interested in what you're studying what you're what what's going on because when a professor knows that you're serious and that you exist and that you're responsible and you're taking things seriously On the one hand it's good to know the professors personally but on the other hand would if it comes to asking for a revision of an exam and the professor knows that you've been working hard all semester versus. He's never seen you except when it comes to complain about an exam it changes things a little bit. That's the very strategic way to look at it but knowing when your professors and getting to know them having getting to know what they want is also amazing but as far as the transition get out there meet people get get another city at just. Don't get stuck in the habit of going to school going home and You know not not not meeting some people and not getting out there in Episode Sixteen Seth Roger Shake run talks about why it is important to set short and long-term objectives support yourself try and create Or figure out what the the sort of short term objective is and And you know like a long term objective for the long-term onto that have to be very specific like I want to save the lives of MOMS and babies in Africa but it can be like I I wanna want to have meaningful impact in. Someone's life in help right that. That's one long-term objective and then the short term one is to do this. I think I need to understand how. Oh you know. Drugs make their way into the market And then from that work your way backwards to understanding what skill sets you need need and learn as much audible in episode Teen Simon. More asks a question that can help you throughout your professional life. You gotta constantly ask yourself what are you gonNa be when you grow up. It's not gonNA be the same it's GonNa keep it all again like whatever you graduate High School Graduate University right here is not. I mean I think either. Hopefully it won't stay that you're you're gonNA have all things will change in my state of same little while but some point is GonNa Change. You gotTa keep evaluate screen when he asked and that's been very in episode nineteen a Bill Police. It talks about why mental health should be your top priority. Yeah but I mean I think of when you have an accident you break your leg you go to the doctor and the doctor CEO you have yet to take some rest okay. And they give some exercises and and nobody ever tells us that you can also break your leg in your head. I mean something can go wrong with your brain you re using I mean especially people who have intellectual jobs they used brings everyday so football players. You go there you run us you tackle cul- and that's something you great something or you kind of You get an injury but did you notice Mandel so the brain can get interest. And there's IT's no permanent. I mean we have also a section. If if the brain has a problem is something permanent is mad is stupid is whatever is I know. The Bray is so considerate Massu. At some point. The brain has something that goes wrong. and which is something that would happen to everyone in life and then if the only thing you you have to do is to take some risks just like the saints too when you twist. Your Ankle Takes Abreast Youtube Fisher. Green you break something more serious. They said motorist I or even goes to the doctor and the doctor was okay. We should trust. Is it just it. Just bother you buddy so yes. Mental health is important but is important also took doc notice that we have we have not just to look after that we just we have the right to to be ill simple. Put up sometime in. The Twenty drew slack talks about the importance of reaching out to professionals in your areas of interest be fearless and and be Determined in in in chatting with people seeking out opportunities for mentorship of the knowledge gathering as early as is often as time permits always. I was found people so so happy New Year to help I think as scientists especially you know coming back to my own personal Or our personal sort of domain Because we're you know we're always held to account and we're never far away from Up from from some episode of failure writing as researchers We we have a out of humility that makes us ly help people but I found it in other domains too. So yeah I would. I would say leverage Every every opportunity audible and don't just Decide Eh you're going to settle on on one narrow area of of study a research career path. And you know. I think you don't know what you don't know in episode. twenty-one Mug with medicine talks about the importance of starting to network right now doing in your academic life tried to network. Don't stay focused only on the microscope. You have to log to have to talk to other. People have to lobby also tried to get a sense of the budget. How much you're spending? How can you make processes better in faster around you and this also counts more cost effective than you know more more efficient in general? That's that's something like that Damian lax but you you can try to develop on your own by the network and the knowledge around if you'd like to do something courses. Are you know thinking about entrepreneurship. Go to those networking events. Go to the to the talks. Listen how it is. Don't be afraid to talk with people what they feel about about it. What's their major challenges and see if it's really for you and pursued a career for women in general I think the most important important to remember that issue there? You're Likes to be there in Kenya. Where in a high position or wherever you are remember to look back and try to help others birds chief the plane? In episode twenty two cindy Evanston talks about how creating an interdisciplinary skillset could influence. Close Your career down the road. You have to step as hard as as hard as it is because we already don't have a lot of time but to step out of the lab and onto to do something else even get. I don't know some sort of one year program in a different field. That merges with yours you know like If it's in psychology and you know you don't become you know you don't want to do research in psychology look into whatever aspect that you enjoy whether it's child development or her Aging or whatever could be just emerged I think also not to be afraid to merger education with something else And I could be a weird mix it could be You just finish your signs and you love cooking and you might talk about the neuroscience of baking. I don't know I'm just saying like don't be too merged urge to different fields. Because that's what I did. I hesitated when I wanted to look into education a little bit more and but it was that jumper that leap into something different. That really helped me on episode twenty three Mark Rendall shares advice on dealing with criticism and with comparing yourself with others. Most people take action or don't take action based off what they think other people are going to think about them. And I'm going to hand you the golden ticket right here. People are not thinking about you. You they're thinking about themselves and they're thinking about what you're going to do and how that's GonNa make them look so when you really start to focus on why you're doing what you're doing in what you want to do in life and you stop thinking about what other people are thinking. which is themselves you can get really really intentional? and Re and really really clear on what you I want to do and you can live a life of purpose fun episode Twenty Four. You'll cost the talks about the importance of being patient in your search for the dream job. The life academia is very full of existential questioning and once you find a solution Russian let it let it sinking and and then take the risk like there's no there's no right path you just you'll you'll see. There is really not as solution of formula and you have been and till now if you are. PG students say until now you've been following a certain direction that the educational system has provided you or this society that you are in but you realize that there are so many avenues and so many possibility. So yeah chill out I would say And and get some Sun on and get some positive vibes wherever you can find and yeah go for it. It's I know that it seems like a race I I know that he seems very complicated for many people but I I really feel. There's always some sort of solution and you just have to. Yeah I don't know if it's wait for it but once you found it don't let it go and let it be so twenty. Five is one eleven to share. Here's some advice on how to choose your own path doing your Grad Studies. I think people should If you really love science and you want to dive in in research you should indefinitely go for a PhD. And it's okay if you change your minds midway and you change a little bit route don't forget it's your pitch it's not your supervisors answers. Its European so you have the right to choose your own path chooses supervised. The choice of supervisor is super important so chooses supervisory cit. I would not just for his or her scientific resume but also for their human qualities their personality the way the work. It has to work for you as well. The other thing is when you're midway through the supernatural to have doubts especially between the second and third year when everything is going wrong think because usually when it goes wrong between the second and the third year and you really wonder what am I doing with my life but if you want to do science related stuff well just just hang in there and finish it it will be worth it because when you finish your it's not just just the signs that you've learned you learned a set of skills. That will be super important for you in the future like problem solving and teamwork and meeting me any other people in getting people to help you solve problems and looking for answers and so many things that you learn along the way so having a PhD is an assets if you're doing a PhD in thinking of becoming a Pi. Well that's probably not going to happen. The numbers are not in your favor but having a PhD is wonderful because it opens doors and if you want to many other science related jobs having the is obviously a plus and even if you're not going to science well lots of consultants they value having people with PhD's because they know they're problem solvers and consultants will l.. That's their day to day job south problem so having a PhD's always an asset and this is it for twenty nine hundred. I I hope you have enjoyed the episode and to share great new content with you in twenty twenty so stay healthy keep investing yourself and keep tuning in every Thursday Thursday to hear news stories and get new ideas on how to carve your career path. Thanks for you're listening to another episode of the Papa Peach podcast head over to Papa. PD DOT COM for show notes and for more food for thought about non-academic boss Grad careers. I'll always be happy to share inspiring stories new ideas and useful resources here on the PODCAST. So make sure you subscribe on Itunes or wherever you get your podcast it to always keep up with the discussion to hear from our latest guests.

Episode Papa PhD professor Grad school David Mendez researcher dot Murchison Joel. mccower Rob Hutchison Fiona Robinson Dr Kiki Sanford Kenya Philippa Kereta Bauza Mark Roberts graduate student Academian Emily Blue Roberts Lincoln Mark Rendall
#161 - Papa John Ate 40 Pizzas In 30 Days & Is Going Insane

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#161 - Papa John Ate 40 Pizzas In 30 Days & Is Going Insane

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Asian I guess interpretation so this one actually is awesome there they all are right now. H. H. Com. It's perfect for gifts. This is perfect for yourself is a perfect stocking stuffer. It's a perfect stocking. I didn't know anything about Christmas. But what if you had on overdose fish stockers. I forgot that there's talking and Christmas. Yes yes yes so there you have it guys. The five holidays shirts only now limited time. Only for two weeks will be in time for Chris Miss and everybody gets paid so now Ian. I know we only pay him one dollars. A month will actually have an opportunity to make a little bit of money Lor Josie dust right so he needs it badly. Okay I've been hearing. We need that second dollar. I've been hearing really hard times for end the salaried employees so That'll be fun looking forward to seeing. If I'm just being honest I think it's GonNa be Ila an N.. Are the top sellers are what do you guys think i. I kind kind of agree when Ellis definitely that's going to be number one. I think that I hate voting for myself but I didn't make it. I just thought with that umbrella blurs I mean and you're awesome. Everybody loves either too so that helps but I do. It's going to be a bit of a dark horse. I oh I like his honestly buddy mainstream this point playing. I don't like my refer to it can be number two or last people. Just want the name you know what I mean. They people just want to support the Host the leader. The God really. If I'm going to be humble about it so I do think that mine will either get two or last shredder enough Rato with the little. Because I love that I mean come I mean come on right so but we shall see there you have it. H Three actually shop dot COM chairs chairs Jaaz. Let's see let's get this out of my face Today mother effort. We've got a special episode boy you. We got a lot of Shit from last week's episode people angry when I show Can't show videos but we talk about elected. McDonald's fights So we shouldn't do that anymore. People were really upset so some people say suggest just putting the links in the description eh long or what we still get in trouble for. No you won't get in trouble but I just don't think ought thank you. It's a good idea. Oh really to link to like no to talk about something you can't show. I agree I think in General I. I kind of already had that feeling before we were GONNA do that. They would enjoy hearing the The sound of a man through a window but it's not his noise Well the more you know What else we had lots of other feedback? People were scared. I think people are just generally scared about shoo. Nice yeah more to come. I'm on that but before we get to that. I WanNa get to the Papa. John's pizza reckoning. Now it's been a dark time and the pizza halls of fame or take category Papa we haven't heard from an awhile. We tried desperately to get interview with him. I want him on the show he's he. He just did an interview which is making waves in media and this is just some nobody if he came on this show we could really talk about pizza. Slice by slice. You know what I mean we could take this. We could take the story slice by slice if I did a documentary papa. John called slice one for chapter one. uh-huh reported thank you so there is a lot to break down here but he is Um He's coming hard for these people who took his pizza thrown and the first thing I want to point out is that he's so wet it is Kinda like a wet here is kind of like. Let me see if I can full screen. If a person could be a pizza right. That's how much the pizza guy he is. He's like I have become. I'm like you know your sister or by or whatever he's pizza that's orientation they gotta add a pe Eh. How would you take your p Plus P for Papa? John's Pizza P plus Why is he so wet? Though for Real. It just came fresh out of the oven. He does say in this interview that he's beaten forty pizzas in the past thirty days. And I think at a certain point you just start sweating pizza agrees. But let's go ahead and hear from the Papa God himself so I mean this is a much anticipated. We've all been waiting breaking the silence dream. The people that I care about the love that I'm able to meters will do what they did. It was the controversy. I I need to point out that that is not a Papa John Uniform this guy cannot put away the past. He's wedding. It's a closest shirt. You could possibly find to looking like Papa John Uniform. That's not. What is that logo to? It's not a fashion brand related needed. It says Jeff Baseball. Oh that's that's A. Yeah no he literally just around found a shirt that looks like the Red Warbler at this. Isn't Papa John This is Jeff Baseball. The Papa of Pizza Pizza Looking back now. Do you think that you were set up. Oh there's no question about it and in the public knows that This do you think they intentionally had blocked due to interview him because he got outed for saying the N Word a bunch. They're probably like let's see what you know. Let's put his. Let's put his pizza to the Let's put his feet in the pizza oven. Get black eyed and let me go back because I don't WanNa miss a word. Oh there's no question about it and the public knows that This is I love that the public knows that. Yeah and such a big story. I love that he thinks every the whole public fallings pizza story by he used to be a big shot. Used to do each to be the sole sponsor of the NFL used to do commercials like mega celebrity peyton manning is that. I don't know who these football players are peyton manning against he's a big deal in Papas in the house. So this is John Schneider side of the story and it's loaded nothing so loaded with all. It's it's loaded with their free topping. Loaded is a is a pizza reference. You say fully loaded truth in the truth sooner or later all comes out for the first time. Schneider is talking publicly about the firestorm that forced him to walk away from the company he built into one of the nation's largest pizza chains they made this all fabricated it. Then shame on them. It all started in May of two thousand eighteen snarler commits. He used the N.. Word during what was supposed to be an internal conference call unversity training I loved. He used the N.. Word on a conference call about diversity training because he got in trouble for using the n word because he got all because he cut in trouble for saying racist assists stuff right down. I mean I I think I'm saying no no. It wasn't any origin trouble before the N.. Word thing no I don't think so uh-huh I mean it was diversity training not a good time to bring up that. I don't think there's there's a really a good time to bring up the N.. Word Take that from me as someone who said the N.. Word in it wasn't a good time. Then either you know. Stay away from that one folks. Do you think Papa. John's says we're when he does rap songs in the shower. And I think probably listens to conservatism. I guess you you think. He says the N.. Word in country music all races as country music I like data but says he did it to convey his hatred of racism says insiders use that as an opportunity to push him out. I just didn't know what happened from from people on the inside doing this. I thought it would come from the outset. And he's willing to name names. Steve Ritchie Olympic early the board of directors. All used used the black community in race as a way to steal the company and they stole the company and now they destroyed the company. Steve Ritchie was Schneider's handpick replacement. Ah after years of friendship to or now as strangely. Olivia Curtly Papa. John's board member living currently in Mark Shapiro should be in jail. It's that bad. What they've done is just wrong and they've heard a lot of people ritchie resigned as CEO earlier this year but Schneider is still critical of his former proteges? He's leadership everybody knows what that person's making everybody knows. Last year. Steve Ritchie got six million dollars. Plus two point eight million to leave and be quiet and they got zero bonus. They all know that in sooner or later they you know who wants to play that game in February and understand what he was missing and think we're saying is that the lower workers are upset. Yeah because because they brought in. And you'll see oh and he gets paid like whatever he just said. Six point eight million that much for the like the biggest pizza chain but the workers from their perspective getting nothing so I think that's what he's saying Papa. John was making more than that. They were making the same amount of money then in one year. Papa he's like a millionaire for a CEO to get paid one year. That's a lot. CEO's and a lot of big IT companies. That's a lot. I guess that is a lot by Golly Micah. Jeff Smith was named Chairman of the Board. Schneider says there's not a lot of common ground. The one thing he and I agree on is Steve. Rich is not a CEO. We that's one thing. We do agree on the new. CEO is former Arby's President Rob Lynch they brought in the RB. Co President President. So he wasn't even which she calls him out for that too. It's not even material what is GonNa Happen to Arby's without their president. What's going to happen? Man Imagined poaching shing the dude from the shittiest food on the planet. Earth to come work for your pizza place. What are they going to start putting roast beef on their own? He's never been the CEO so he has no pizza experience. He's ever been in the pizza. Category you have a passion for quality. That's a disc barbies. I feel like he doesn't have a passion for quality. He's like have you had arby's I love that it's never been the pizza category V. Hasn't you can't just go from roast beef sandwiches to pizza the pizza category for at least ten years. But I have to say in Shatner's Papa. John Shady's defense. We have Gotten Papa. John's since he was ousted. And it's not what is good. I swear we wasn't even slide. Wasn't even cut. The pizzas sucked. It was like a F- tear up. John was in office with Bo in the House. That pizza and a every time sometimes s careful with the SS controversy. Yeah that's I mean. That's up for John for John. DECIDE FEES SS or not. I've been watching a lot of Hitler documentaries honors on Netflix. It's fascinating I was watching one about these war criminals who are like there were so should I is this a tangent. Shush took a different. Yeah but it sounds like a plus material here at Papa original you know just as an aside quickly did you know that like of the two million Nazi war criminals who exterminated people like only one hundred of them ever went to jail. Like the Germans didn't prosecute prosecute anybody interesting fascinating one. Many even say it's fascinating okay. Let's move on okay. boomer okay boomer. How dare you say that to me? Probably most important. He doesn't have a passion for people. All Changes Schneider says he hates people. People Passion for people by Papa. John's Shati's the woman. The healthcare reform came up with Obama. He's I refuse to raise my pizza prices by two who sent to give my employees healthcare coverage. Yeah talk about a passion for people so far is called him out on not being CEO Material Not caring thing about quality about people and not even the pizza category and being in the pizza category. He's like when you look at him. What do you see a dry face? Ace Greasy wet. I'm soaking what. That's what pizza category out of the shower. The last time I showed was a week ago. Explain that you gotTA sweat out right. Spiral hurt people wake up every day and this company great I mean. It's a miserable place over there. I mean they're losing all they're good people good people anybody specifically told you that I love. He calls him how miserable. I've talked to every hot at level executive that's left on the street and we're talking to half a dozen executives. I mean they've lost more executives in the last twelve months than I did in ten ten years and after years of touting better ingredients better. Pizza Schneider says it's ultimately the customers who are left with a bad taste in their mouths. I've had over over forty pizzas in the last thirty days. It's not the Saint Pete. Packed Up Papa. Johnny boy here has down. This guy is my hero pizzas over thirty days. How is that possible to look at them? That means ten days of the last month he had pizza twice. I just hate orders Papa. John's you know what I mean. Interesting I think he's ordering Papa John's like okay. Let's see how let's order it from this branch and this branch you think. End This brand now now that he doesn't work there anymore. Yeah I don't know what happens to the tip. No the the tips not big anymore. I wonder if because he was all proud of the Papa John Dot Com and now it's not even his Ari tips them big and joined the movement dot net. No one else thinking I was like dude. You're the billionaire. Just go start another pizza joint but I was like. He can't even use his own name because they own his name dude. Today John is the name of the company it should start. One in the name of Bo Bo's in the house. Yeah I'd buy that I'd buy the Ethin- love and crap to say product just doesn't taste the way they're making the pizza where they're putting the pizza together is just not fundamentally sound to. What makes the Papa John's Papa? John's pizza it sounds like you're saying that that it's taken a huge hit since your departure would you ever consider or do you want to go back right now. I don't want to go back. This is still your baby. It's in your name on it and to your point stuff it's it's hard to watch this I mean every single thing you can possibly do wrong to mismanages this company. They're doing snark still loves. The company built even picking because everything is red. Yeah why would they shoot witnessed auditorium whatever it is in stock and is no longer the largest individual shareholder. Not Metaphor is. There's no reason to be in the car when the car crashes Rashes even if you love the car if you were to walk back in the car crashing though because I remember when we check the stock was going up when they hired shack which which by the way I think shack. I haven't seen him on Papa John It's a while I haven't ordered Papa. John's pizzas since he left. Quite Frankly Papa John Stock Price. Oh let's look at year to date other. They're they're doing good. Actually Oh there on the rebound down but man. Yeah Papa I mean sorry to tell you John You you slam that stock like fear. This is the stock in the last five years this they were killing it. This was Papa. John's city then also shattner starts dropping the N.. Word diversity training and then like you know see later and then this one. They hired shack. Everyone one of shock open. Maybe we don't like shack and the pizzas but then suddenly I don't know what happened. Arby's Arby's president came to a picture. Rob Lynch is the CEO. Actually that the big drop was in twenty seventeen Let me see right here. Yeah yeah hit. The controversy was in twenty eighteen. Sure is actually dropping shopping before that. So that's why they fired him though because he was already blowing because he was there was a lot of Co Papa John Controversy Right. I refreshed myself down. I'm Dan the NFL NFL said he didn't want people heal because it was affecting pizza. Sales one Nestle worse than this. Shut up idiot. That's starting to control what the NFL does because you're shut up. Because he was a big sponsor of the NFL and he felt like their business was suffering because of association because controversy going on yeah so that's when he started to you know there's it's a lot of stocks to buy on the market. I just can't imagine investing Papa John's to become with well they're doing well until twenty. Seventeen is just I just want to be in the pizza game me. I'm not in the pizza. Category like it's like owning jewel stock or some shit. It's like the pizza category. You're right okay. Let's get back to the. Seo What do you think the employees would say. If the man's team was out Lee and I went back they'd be they'd be cheering they'd be getting back flips. It'd be off the walls now positive on the city says he's committed to giving back. He recently made big donations. Donations to Simmons a historically black college and his Alma Mater Jeffersonville high school. This is where I started this bill eldest whereas school mistake John G made donations to black colleges. And that's what the shirt is too. Oh but you know that. It looks like that because he made them change it to look like Papa. John Jersey donation is that we're going to change everything Red Papa. John has to write. It's identical. How would you say stating day? Iraqi will oh com. The record will be straight. Why not set the record straight down? I mean what is it about the recommendations stated joke call soon. ooh stay to sooner than later the day of reckoning and maybe it's working on a new brand he says he says the truth will come out though so it's some kind of expose. It never works out whenever people say that they got nothing hoster that like five years so yeah they'll still uh-huh truth just wait you know. It'd be epic if Papa John just murdered a bunch of people and that's what he was talking about damn. We should've known stone. The Day of reckoning that hand I would papa John merica would then send Domino's stock just blown away by how evaluate dominant stock is in comparison. Oh Wow to what. Three hundred dollars per share They took a shitter though. Let's get the. Let's see if there's any correspondence out domino's account account well. Yeah wow they really since two thousand sixteen. I was a good time to buy domino's seriously. Holy Shit and three years their stock value tripled. Domino's good. I gotTa Tell You I've been getting dominoes. They stepped out pizza. Hut Domino's is domino's chairman Ho Domino's pizza slut and little seizures. Ah So there you go pop in the house. He's making threats. And what can I say he's got such Ma'am quality like he can and can't do an interview without shaking the whole world did. It was all over twitter. I I saw on twitter last night. Ten thousand views and when I woke up this morning is at six million. I think I think in an Papa. John's mine he you think that people are the public cares about his story and not the fact that he just looks like agree. Sees Wet. Pizza doesn't matter not to Papa. Just why does the public junk come on the show. I think there was a moment omen when he we were able to. Maybe get him no never went. There was somebody that reached out that said that they can maybe get them on Ya. Yeah we do people will say that kind of stuff. Yeah well I wish you. Well I just want the P. Papa. John's pizza back because right. Now what sucks it really does suck. Pizza has taken a strong lead in the pizza. Wars and the day reckoning is at hand just firebombs Papa. John Headquarters Kills Three hundred. People locks all the doors from outside for like. Wow that's what he meant okay fascinating. Now let's move on. Let's talk about shoo. Nice Nice we gotta take a break when we come back. 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What did we cut with cut when When we knew something was going to get hit for copyright? Actually you know. What's the reason that we actually not doing? It live. Yeah we kept because people can blocking it not claiming it blocking right. We have sponsors so we can't afford to just not have the video so now what we do is we uploaded. Unlisted and we can see if there's any claims if there are any claims we just cut it out and then uploaded the the next but it's live baby we are. We're here running to the bathroom running out of breath. It's all happening shoe. Nice now a lot of basically a lot of people have been speculating. Why did she nice flip on you? He was clearly happy to be on the show when he was here. But then after the the show was all about I trolled h three eastern is such a Dick. You know I gotta I always win and we were wondering what isn't I thought. That was doc. Part was an act but he keeps going with it and it's looking like I don't know anymore just doesn't look right. Whatever is going on while there was one on really insightful comment? Actually I'll read to you guys. That is the most plausible explanation that I've seen so here it is This was written by. Can Shoo Nice possibly has borderline personality. Disorder bipolar again. I'm not here to diagnose the guy but the rest the rest is what makes sense. My father's similar with mood swings shoelaces. Probably angry that you touched on some very personal and touchy issues for him and that it was all a troll. Video was his way of trying to broadcast sense of control of the issue to show that he isn't embarrassed or weak and that he's a winner probably a mindset that he has subconsciously sleep brought bought into over the years and order to stay afloat and keep his life moving again. I've seen the same behavior for my father who had very similar life. Experiences Disunited Issue Nice Aka broken family drug and alcohol abuse war trauma and from my perspective. He's angry that you're able to get so close to his personal demons and feels feels humiliated. That people are pitting him. I realized just now that I initially wrote the wrong disorder. This is an edit. I'm just committed now though. They can share a lot of similarities depending on the circumstance. Well you know. Let's not read the whole edit but I thought that was an interesting analysis that he's embarrassed or he doesn't from what he's overcompensated so he doesn't feel weak or pitied or something. So that's his way to take control of the situation in his mind. He's like I told you I was an eye. So and furthermore he seems to be obsessed with the fact that we didn't even pay him for me streets a a train station in Denver Colorado. And I got you I got you good. You're just expect other people's problems and you couldn't. I don't even pay me these boys from here for low combs late basically face. I love that only only spice bought me a four Loko by the way. There's this crazy channel called shoe nice deleted videos with like the most dedicated hater of all time jealous and frustrated shoots unites wants undeserved payout from h three h after almost zero bumps and views I wonder if shown is delayed. It is shown. Oh Nice himself if he what if it only that was my theory I think shoots issue nice deleted. Yeah because who would be this dedicate. Yeah and then. So he'll posted on shoe nice erase it and re posted to shoot ice deleted and I wonder if in his mind he thinks he's getting ws or something but they're all like if he is if this super depressing because look at the titles shoelaces aces matter h three h three. And he's on the streets pretending he's famous. Jealous and frustrated shoots wants undeserved payout shoe nice drunk drunk humiliated damage control after h Lee. PODCAST embarrassment I duNNo. Jeez the titles are like Super Brewer. ooh Ours The whole thing is just Kinda I just don't know his what's going on. Yeah Shoe Nice humiliation damage. Control part one should I says piss. HVAC exposed and humiliated him. I don't think we humiliated him. That's the thing we didn't. We didn't humiliate him. I thought we all had a good time. Yeah and so I feel the only in his mind he would he see it that way. I don't think there's anyone cares enough to do with him. I feel that this has to be shoe. Nice but be that as it may clearly upset that we didn't pay him first time we don't pay any of our guests but We wanted to find a way way to compensate him. We wanted to find a way to bury the hatchet. And so what we did is we went over to shoot ISIS CAMEO and we purchased everybody here in the office a a cameo from shoe nice to celebrate this holiday season. Dan Anzac Eli and myself all got a special. June is Cameo me Oh so Guys if you want your own shoe Nice Cameo you know where to go cameo dot com ever fuck cameo but shout Out this year is so Dan this is for you so lifting. Hey everyone basically this is shoutout to Danny. Daniel knows everything about ending. Logan Paul tried to copy. uh-huh look at his podcast a joke either way. Thanks for buying me. Denny's guys stink. No each cameo custom box. We gave him fifty fifty bucks. Essentially although I wonder what cameos cut is a good point like twenty five percent or something probably us us I was. He got real nice in the cameras. I was expecting more shit talk. He just sits Logan Paul and like every cameo for some reason. Here's one for happy holidays to you from. Hey everyone shoot nice again well basically this is a shoutout internally in the dude is no joe but you better this new Daniel he will bust your ass you boss Jake Paul Zas get you from whatever whatever that thing was called. He really put a lot of effort into. I'm happy to see Jack. Happy Holidays from shoe nights and Not this one's visa everyone's shoe nice again will basically this is show to Zack. Doc were the greatest producers and you wear any podcast closer to hold his GONNA call. Thank you have it. Your cameo turned quickly into an insult to Logan. Paul I'm honored and you should be this is one for you. I got worried about this phone because you can't make him really weird sexual comments about Ella but think he kept acclaimed for you bulow. Hey everyone shoe nice so again. We'll basically this cameo is to shout out my really good friend. Ill really good way. The prettiest girl on Youtube takes a look like a poodle. The way he killed he almost got me killed. Oh probably because he was saying Rude Shit. Everyone almost killed him. I don't know but I I find that he has a hard time. Complementing somebody without insulting somebody uh-huh toys like this person is worse. Compared to you so gentleman was. I'm not sure what she did to incur the wrath of the shoe and me. I was most nervous of all for this one. I was expecting like Ethan Klein. This is your address of cement night at eight. PM nope everyone one shoe nice again. Well basically I just want to shout out my boy. I even J. Paul and his brother this hero more like Zero Adam. Either way I'd be lying to put the shoe in the box. Return to pay less by the away on on It's so funny on Cameo. Oh Dude he's got a fucking ask slowed. He sold five hundred review. That's a lot in this guy's Active four point nine stars to man Love Shui The weird thing is that every cameo they make public right you can watch them is business. Oh wait determined dog shooting guests in a way. It's good to keep people from getting on the platform. He's actually I think all very transparent. It's right there. It's actually up to the person ordering whether or not you want it to be Yeah you know. Because they're they're celebrities. I mean there and if they do show there then you get what you paid for. Not sure if that's what can show Xiaomi as Dick for ten bucks maybe for twenty. I don't do. I have the option of paying more. Dan I didn't see I didn't see a way. Ten is there's no negotiating. I'll say. Show me your deck all by another one and you do anything proud. You put your game page decided to sobre after that rattlesnake bid. Shoot the ball sack out. He's actually making a lot of money from this suit. This who's this guy. Youtube Star Cameron Carl. suet he has to say to his fans. I love this shit too. Can you start closer. Your Face Ace. What is this is a recording communist giles? If you WANNA shop. VIP Day Christmas. Frank okay. Whatever but oh you know speaking? So that's it as Ila said the time for the shoe back in the box. Are we getting a refund or we just putting it in that. I just started something to save the receipt. No are you donating to goodwill you keeping it I just put it in a storage Sword unit that means it will probably go in the garbage in a couple of years. But you're not ready just yet. Yeah what kind of shoes are they like. Like a Nike Adidas. It's it's like us the reebok knock it. Yeah Reebok used lots of mileage mileage. Yeah Speaking of Cameo one of my favorite stories of the decade came out of cameo you remember Mark McGrath from sugar ray popular popular band when I was a kid. Bad Up on bump. How's it go- a ever Emma awnings and combat as Bob it that you know that song on just got claimed because I was so every mon- says a ransom bad bad as you guys know what I'm singing right The baby don't say a word Every morning Shut shut the door baby. Don't say a Word Sugar Ray. Every girl wanted to all the guys wanted to be him and all the girls want to fuck and and now you now eat all a lot of these handsome guys. I found You know they say the trope is that Men Age more gracefully hopefully than women. And I and I and I would say that you know I see the the what they mean by that but a lot of these pretty boys try so desperately to hold onto their looks. They don't they refuse to age gracefully. And I think they don't embrace the aging. Yes and they still try to look like when they were exa Zac back then Bro. He's fifty and he's still got frosted tips dot. That's the unfrosted tips. You know what I'm saying But so mark McGrath is on cameo for one hundred dollars by the way. His net worth is estimated. I like eight million. What the fuck would you do cameo for one hundred bucks but everyone is on cameo so it's so easy just doing your spare time air seeing? It's it's public it's like Doug you're not okay. I don't no no. It's good for some people but it's like you're come on sugar ray and scannon great for a lot of people like Shuna or you know doing Cameo Danielle. It's great for you guys. You guys were able to make some money on that new SC- so just a minute ago. You said I wouldn't do it but they should do it. I just think it's not it's not for you know man I wanna see you guys on Kamya. They do accu play tunes for people. Twenty five bucks an would you do it. I'm cool thank you. Wow okay her too. Good what would you eat like a spoonful of Mayo for twenty five now anyway. Mark McGrath Accepted a cameo request for a hundred dollars A girlfriend wanted to break up with her boyfriend via mark. McGrath his favorite band. So imagine getting this cameo from your favorite artists saying that your girlfriend wants to break up with you. I mean you've got to see this. Since shuts it is mark McGrath a from band sugar ray off the charts but always your heart says Oh. By the way all of his cameos he says off the charts but always in your heart bro branding themselves who are they off the charts. I mean I don't think they've been on day are off the charts. Oh is that what you're saying off your heart okay. So so he's he's you know I thought he was saying off the chart. La No off the chart. Okay so I approve. Yeah what do you think about the hair yellow. I feel like I'm watching a fear factor. You know it's like a local lake compete at timepiece. So let's watch this camera was booked by Cheyenne and she wants to know a few things. This is a little. How difficult for me to say? Because it's the first one of these I've done but she wants to know that you mean a ladder you mean the world to her but she's having having difficulty staying in this long distance relationship you know it's tough on the road for years and I've been with my wife a long time. The biggest arguments the biggest obstacles in our relationships is the distance between us. Makes it very difficult Moore on the road And it's hard so Cheyenne is trying to let you know brain dead. It's very very tough for her to stay in this relationship she still cares about you a lot. You never know with the future may hold and she still wants to be friends with you because obviously she cares about him all information he she must but I think he is his improvising. Like but I don't know there's not an ounce of humor in this striking to me is that he sees himself as a legitimate the mediator here and it keeps going man he just he's he keeps GonNa Watch it. You want you to know. Good luck on your thesis coming up. Probably not the best timing but I understand. You know you've got to work on your thesis and life goes on you know. I'm sure there's big things thinks he had of you in the future but Cheyenne cares about. She's thinking about you but the long distance thing is just a little different. I wonder if he's going to get a slew with break-up via requests. Now KINDA WANNA get one for you for April fool's deal from a divorce fucked break-up divorce video from Mark McGrath. Hey thin so either wanted to tell you that she has given me the papers and I do have a block pan here for or you just need to sign. The papers are in your nightstand. ILA has moved out already Here's the the address it's already perea. Korea look is this maybe a little hard but you'll get over it. Maybe he'll come back. You don't know others the slight light issue. She did run off with Shoe Nice. I'd be worried. Mark McGrath. Tolmie ran off with shoe. Nice of like Mark McGrath and shoots of the doctor my wife and she wants city state positive. Mild on your fan of the Band Sugar Ray which I am honored shows deliver good news. Hope they it back. Steve that Kinda Ruins for Hello Fan of Howard. Stern coward to divorce. Divorce have said No. It's just one hundred bucks. Just say now. It's a weird request is sometimes you have to Cheyenne Braid. novas Elvis. We can hang out but not right now bro. The longest and things a little difficult but she which is nothing but the best all the love in the the world and do do do do your best on these this man I know it. Softened holiday season is try to relationships relationships. And all that stuff. But you've got big things ahead of you bro. If you're working on a thesis you've got a good life in front of you. I've our economy. I'm no clumping. I students positive bro. All right be positive for all right. Well she definitely got her money's worth but do you guys thoughts thoughts on that on believable this cameo and taking on a new level. That's not yeah. That's not what Kanye was made for or what it was. I going to delivering bad news through cameo. I'm sorry to tell you this We just got word that Your mother has passed away. It was a quick But I did hear that. You're a fan of me so you're fan of me so we thought that would soften the blow so I'm honored that you're fan but yes this. Your mother is dead so They already had the funeral. They wanted to tell you you know and It is your fault That that the Mexican food you made for her was too spicy and She blew out or corn fishy apparently broke up because of their long distance. History to kind of sounds like an excuse. Of course it's an excuse. You got mark McGrath. So someone's of the I don't want phone is not mute. I swear to God it's on. Do not disturb you know. It's not as we just heard it. PODCAST my phone started ringing to own on small. We always then always says everyone. You WanNa mute. Yes it's muted every morning awesome Matt at the combat that that bad out that that data da oh I was looking through. Mark McGrath even plays music for people for a hundred bucks. Private shows crazy man. I hustle. Let me let me look at Mark McGrath's And how long are those videos do. They're all super long. Yeah but I mean super long for a cameo but under two minutes right. Are you defending the hundred bucks for two minutes of work. But he's we're good dude. I guess I know. But he's like well you keep saying that he's got a net worth of six million but how much income does he have in. Twenty years residuals from Mark McGrath. He's got a lot of work now he's on. TV like extra or something like that like daytime TV judge on some real smart out out from the band. Sugar rang up the charts but always in your heart. I understand from your friend. Lisa did it was just your one year. Ah Congratulations one year. It's not play at all at once. Hey Hey Christian. What's up my brother? It's mark McGrath from the band. Sugar Ray off the charts in your hearts and I just want to say very happy birthday. Today you're turning forty four happy birthday the previous night. Yeah I understand the Jewish sisters to the ADP mega talk. Doc Sarah hitting all those buttons caused our blackout. Turn everything into much at bigness. Pick for the. Hey Margaret Grant Syrian. Every Sunday Sunday back members bow So jealous of his hair. Really 'cause I I had like hair insecurity because I have curly hair I was always so jealous because back when I was a kid it was all about straight. Yeah frosted Ostad tips spiky hair and I was so insecure about my hair mark. McGrath a young. You'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA WANNA fuck young mark McGrath. Tell me that you don't WanNa fuck young. Mark McGrath Eh. He kind of looks like a dish. You don't WanNa fuck young mark McGrath. I like Ceelo you just me You don't WanNa fuck young. Mark McGrath the holy war on gays. Oh Oh shit. That's what it says on the magazine cover that he's on. I don't know I mean yeah. Yeah looking guy but not I think that is styled today. Just really doesn't had he didn't. He never switched the stock. Yeah this was cool in the nineties or whenever he was oh to see now he's now he's what do you think about that. His naps APPS are really like showing with the successful on a fluke flukes on. What does that name so like when they they were originally punk punk band and they came out the song fly which is like a on a fly? That's what was that. Like a goof song in the exactly became the go. Exactly you got lost in thought exactly. So that's why they made that like Ray gay type either. Do you like the frosted tips and Goatee look hate the thing the goatee with such a such an awesome. Look back them. Yeah what is this. Put your shirt down. Look at this picture of Ashton Kutcher. Why does the let me scroll up? Man I like I can't you guys. It doesn't go up right amount. I don't know good. Ask Me 'cause you're just we'll just shirt like who would you rather fuck mark. McGrath or Ashton Kutcher. Glad is it not obvious. I know I don't know I think Kuester. Oh you'd know instead fly fly. I think that's kind of like unquestionable. Now he's He was a model. Yeah Yeah but he's also wasn't what what they need to do. Some guy just looks like a goatee unsecured. Since you said you don't find anyone just being on Let's get off this. We'll ask me this question getting no. I'm glad you answered honestly interesting. Jesus would you rather fuck Astronaut honestly let's not use the Ford. No I'm kidding I'm insecure. I'm just disappointed because you're a secretly into Mark Mark I WANNA co I WANNA Marc. Joseph was hair because back then in middle school. If I only had frosted tips and short hair I would have growth right now and the reason that I'm not don't have girlfriends. 'cause I have curly hair only. Yeah but today the better hair you there you go fuck you mark bitch ass on cameo loser I should make him say like I got the best hair. McGrath's Christmas God. Congratulations on having awesome hair. Took Super Jealous now. You know well well that was fun. If you guys by the way come up on any other crazy cameos I want them. I live for these. I want to just inject it into my veins pains. I love crazy. Wacky Grazie Damn us. What Else Got Star Wars? It's okay man delorean. Amazing I love the Manda Laurean. I'd feels like Star Wars. It feels like star wars everything everything about it. It's gritty it's awesome. It's not overly campy as perfectly campy. It's fun it's exciting. It's got baby iota. I would literally early. I think I would kill my cousin for baby Outta a cousin. Kill cousin I was. I was going going down the list of family members Zach. Mom No dad like well no not really. He is my dad after all and then I was a cousin cousin. Yeah I'd kill. I'd probably kill all of them for baby. Yoda what is what's the scenario I would someone with you. Here's a gun you have to kill one or the other I would kill. My cousin for the Iraqi will come. I would probably kill my whole extended family You're gonNA find that baby. Yoda merge out new. This is GONNA be off the chain Jane but the reason that I'm talking about how great the man delorean is is because the new the final star wars of the neutrally the rise of Skywalker came out and I have to say. I don't fucking care about this stupid ass trilogy. These movies suck the Mandal Oin. As far as I'm aware is the new star. Wars like watch how stupid this shit is. And I'm I'm so over these movies washout dumb. They released this being like. Oh this is awesome. Does a hype. Click first of all just generic action movie. Now that's all it is and you'll see the dialogue. Just make one dive breath. Why would he do that? That doesn't make them. They find out I ate that lie. Hate that it's awful. It's it's horrible. It's not funny. I hit all those characters. And by the way the guy who's driving the things like they find out and the first one he was fine and the second one he was so obnoxious so unlikable. I hate that character. I hate everybody there. I hate the fucking even law actors. No the The actor have no beef with their there. You know in the Mand Laurean. It's all perfect amazing. Uncontrolled Five D- great pace episode three quarry. It's so good I like I like I like it I like it I like I like I like I like it. I like it I liked it. I like it I like it I. I'm over it I'm over it. I like it over. I like I'm over all over it. I like it. This is to chair I like it. I'm over I like it. I like Tim. I'm over cheered here like a fascinating over it. Tears US Navy doesn't this looks so awful it so well I I saw it and I immediately raised it from my memory. I'm so glad that they made the mandatory. And I'm so glad. They gave it to John for verse that's his name Farrell because this is a talent this is a guy who lives in British star wars and comic books fantasy. This is a guy who who cares about the craft and the Star Wars Universe. He honors the Star Wars that people know and love. This is a bastardisation. This should never have been made. The man delorean hiring is the real star wars. I love it I approve. This is trash. I hate everything about it. They fly now and we still haven't seen the bill bar cameo. Oh Yeah Bill burs then delorean. I'm waiting for the enemy of the show. You say friend of the show builders enemy of the show. I'm kidding of course no enemy at the show. That's very American and I want to know why they're I mean I guess maybe it'll make sense in the movie. Breast four fucking stormtroopers. Why are they running away from four stormtroopers? I know those guys can't shoot for Shit and raise a fucking Djeddai now right just own them. Just take your lightsaber and murder. Probably more back. They're GONNA do some eleven eleven. Who cares the movies? They are awful. I mean the last star wars was joy lucas trailers. This is awful. This is just a teaser. Trailer hate it. I'm over it I like it too. Slow Zach so You guys have been watching Lauren right. Yup I'm caught up love of it hate it. Think it's okay. I can have the Dan. Are you starving trips. It's true are are you just eating up to the or you starving hungry. It's true we started late again. He's always eating chips back here. Now it's it's it's authentic. What flavor you got these spicy case so say are a little? It's a little disappointing. The Jalapeno ones were good for your heart. I know METOO meeting way too. Many of these trips. That's right. You're healthy while you're vegetarian. You know what it is. It's the the the truth appetite. Suppressing that's got to be better for you than that slamming Jepson. Probably maybe it's true net neutral. We're all very proud of you by the way thank you. That's great news. Don't go dial Miami. I need you dialect from a heart attack from eating or what I made you know from vaping. Oh don't go get a double lung lung transplant. That happened is some poor bastard whose vaping getting a double lung transplant. No I think I think it's been pretty much confirmed. Now that it was it was was all down to the. THC stuff not the not the jewel pods but don't lie your spooked smoke that Shit a little bit but I also just wanted to to quit so it was. It was sort of like the last little push. Yeah it was a good reason to to finally do it. I mean I started doing. It's been longer than dance. Dan Stop when we worked on that point. I think that was is the the last day that I completely very cool star wars. Oh this is this is such an awesome awesome story. I'm not even now incredible. It's amazing it's like entertaining. It's got twists turns. This is something that you think only happens. Movies about the biggest jewelry heist in history. Took place recently intrigued in museum It's estimated that the thieves grabbed a billion euros. A billion euros worth of jewels. That's insane it's like the biggest heist by far of all time. It's so incredible. I've got these visual AIDS here. Here's a mature album as I as I. So here's the case. This was the biggest collection of of A medieval jewelry Owned by Kings in all this in Europe and you see that wasn't necessarily medieval was more like eighteenth century honestly This this by the way. Look at this one million dollar dollar coin. WHOA isn't that awesome? They stole that Shit by So look at these beautiful condition. It did a nice. That's a sorta but what are you doing it now. Oh so I'll get to that And this is like some huge teardrop diamond paneling God they stole all this shit and so much more a billion dollars. Let me read you the facts of this here. There's a video of it Let me play the video. Jio 'cause there's no sound and a review the the facts Jack so here they are. The details of this heist is is amazing. My favorite degreen volt. My favorite part of this heist is that they were reportedly extraordinarily tiny people bull right. There was just a whole. They pried open in. The bars was the size of a head. So they they you know like in these these heist movies they go and get like some Vietnamese chemises really Some hot little toy INC or yeah. They literally did that. Ocean's eleven they got they got a little Vietnamese like like trapezes twin curly flex suitcase and so they literally did that That's all the shit is so so so. Let me read you. The the details thieves in German city address didn't have broken into one of Europe's largest collections of art treasures and making off with three three sets of eighteenth century jewelry. Immeasurable worth and what. Germany has described as the biggest such theft of all time. The popular German daily build says the thieves grabbed jewels. Worth one billion euros. The dramatic heist took place on Monday after a fire broke. Here's where it gets crazy a fire. You're broke out and an electrical disturbance deactivated the museums alarms and plunged the area into darkness. German media described this strikingly small thieves. Who managed to get through a tiny hole to enter the vault as leaving behind bulky objects such as vases races and paintings The correspondent for German broadcast described. The whole. The thieves got through as being no larger than my head. That's crazy the the've the break and only lasted a few minutes. The emergency call was made at five fifty nine a. m. the police arrived at five. Oh Oh five. Am Six minutes afterwards but you may fix six minutes later. You're five four. I understand that I said it wrong. Five fifty nine. Am and the police arrived at five zero five. Am say that no. You didn't say the wrong five. Oh five no four nine five five in my God. What did I say fifty nine okay? Four fifty nine you go arrived at five zero five six minutes okay. Now it makes. The police arrived Amir six minutes after the emergency called but the thieves had already fled the scene while investigators go for. Oh Oh so the investigators linked The same gang stole a estimate of four point. Five million dollar coin from the Museum of Berlin Orlando and two thousand eleven. That was thought I think the same seventeen did this in the heist the burglars used a ladder to steal the huge gold coin featuring the bust of Queen Elizabeth the second. That's when I showed you. I think on the front from the Bode Museum. According to the build held up to a billion euros worth of treasure was stolen. I already said that experts at the museum who wants busted that collection was as secure as fort. Knox said today that the items stolen were of immeasurable wealth and pleaded for the thieves not to destroy them so get there because the pieces are so famous. There's no way that they could sell those black market. And what do it listen to this manager for the art Auction House told the tabloids leads that if the objects stone had value of a billion euros as initially estimated by the place even if they were broken down and melted to the raw bob materials they would still be worth a hundred to two hundred million euros. Aw which makes it well. We're stealing them. Isn't that just the raw-materials. The building was being patrolled by two guards in the center of the building. According to German media the first officer arrived on the scene within minutes but these I have already fled and get a getaway car that was waiting outside which managed to elude immediate attempts to find it and the surrounding area and on nearby highways the police told reporters police later confirmed that are already a six matching. The description of the getaway car was found burned in underway parking parking lot and traced him. Isn't that insane. They blew the fuse. They somehow put the fire out a fire and put the power out had this getaway car. They sunfire thoroughly like oceans zoot. They got in six minutes. They busy they had the whole city locked down. And these guys had this crazy getaway route and they were unable to find a billion dollars the out a so. The player can free Yada Yada Yada investor. The investigators suspect that the fire of of an electrical junction box near the museum which took out the street lights. At the time of the robbery was linked to the crime. The outage affected lights in front of the window window which they gained entrance and some how getting through bars and safety glass to reach the jewel room. Police said they have established a special investigating team comprising comprising twenty specialists officers to solve the case. My question is this. When does the movie come out there? I wonder even if they wanted to. Just sell the materials if They would still get caught because the material sound really rare rare. Here's what I would really specific and I'm sure they're much smaller smarter than I am. Melted down to the base materials and then sell them all over the place you know I like I really raw diamond or really unique shaped diamond. I think I saw another article. Where they they guessed that the diamonds would probably we They would recruit them. You can just read 'em that is bad. Yeah I mean these are precious that that is sad that they are but at the same time. I'm kind of stoked for them. Isn't that sick. They got these Vietnamese twins to crawl in between the bars. I mean I hate that. The they're going to run this crazy jewelry. What historic but I'm kind of stoked for them? I like to watch it as a movie but I don't like it in reality in the movie. They'd be like cool when cares and Leonardo DiCaprio. You know yeah but it sucks. Yeah immorality they probably like fucking killed people. There are some like super-rich super-rich people. That would buy this stuff like to put in their own collection. I don't think you I think it was way too risky to buy the the actual the actual piece. He's I mean if there is a serious investigation. I'm assuming they would be looking. I vote. They'RE GONNA they're gonNA melt. It is worth two hundred million bucks walks dean damn now. That's a payday though. It's just crazy that the stuff actually happens. Yeah it's amazing. I'm just thinking about these little tweaks and I wonder and if they had Paul McGrath Paul McGrath. Mark McGrath's hair. I'm just wondering why. Would you WANNA Fuck Vietnamese. Bank with pomegranate are mark McGrath air. Okay no big now. for Deer hunting season is open in Wisconsin. You'll be happy. We didn't know yellow and in the opening weekend alone four people were shot. Thank you keep shooting each other and that amazing I think more people got that shot than dear. That's at least four. People were shot in Wisconsin during states opening weekend of deer hunting one. A thirty eight year old man was hunting and own need. I hate pronouncing like when I see some a word for the first time I've got like angst I get like existential dread because I now I can read it. Oh an idea. How do you pronounce? That was more when you get X.. Existential are you wanting to just angst. Okay fine I don't know what is somebody disease or something no. It's not angst that I get. I get existential angst. Every time I hear Dan correct me. twenty eight year old man was shot in the foot. But did you send me then. Ok Angst I did the center. Make Fun of me What is some stupid starship can off my screen? Oh my God. I can't close it Dan. I'm having Angst Hispanic Hispanic. Why what is this you know I? It doesn't work. I mean what the fuck. I'm not watching that movie. I how might just straight up skipping. I'm serious fuck star. Wars Mandal oriented At thirty eight year old man was shot in the foot. The same thing happened in twenty nine year old woman to a shot. A hunter shot at a running deer and struck a nineteen year. Old Woman. The left hand another man it. Can you imagine you're like get there and then you just so many there. Oh Hi mom whoops Oh hi mark. Another man was shot. Well deer hunting the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources asking for the public's help in the case which is still under investigation. More people got shot. Than Deers Douse. Minos a joke are over they should rename it human. IRA here's what I wrote. More people got shot in years. They should rename it. Human Season Cheney season who famously shot his friend in the face during deer season did you know that you I the vice president his homey and the base wasn't it was a duck hunting duck hunting. Excuse me and uh-huh and then Dick Cheney made back I apologize to him for. Yeah for standing in the way for causing him. Grievance you know Dick Cheney Dick Cheney sued him. I don't think I know. I don't think he sued him. Dick Cheney said apologize finish the job. Wow what happens if you shoot. Someone is that not a crime. Can you just go murder. But they'll seriously if you're deer hunting can you just go shoot people. It's like all goods like whoops loops if it's an act already filled. No one cares. WHO's to say accident from attempted murder? Dan oops you know what I'm saying. Yeah and I. That's that would. That's what I tell the judge and by oop Oop you have have a good point. Thank you but let's put that aside and let's just enjoy this story because I think it's great. I I agree. I don't like people to hunt like when someone dies at the hands of like a or like a tiger elephant on Mike to. You're fucking dead Bro. You got owned. It's so outrageous that these hunters think like they trump the trump boys who go out there and kill fucking elephants. You know done. Yeah the trump's boys should there is a distinction between hunting deer in and big game. Deer is a little all different because they I guess they ella. That deers are in some areas. Too there's too much in the population is to be cold. Yes seasons We made all the predators extinct so now the deer population is like running away so got to get rid of them. But it's just so outrageous to kill fucking elephant fly to Africa said. I'm definitely with you on that. You know there's all this propaganda okosa conservation do these. These countries are so corrupt. You think it really makes the they they say they always always say dude. I go the government to get a license to kill an elephant. And all that money goes to conserving. So it's a good thing that I'm going to African killing woods. Yeah they hit. I always hear that and defensiveness big game hunters who by the way a giant pussies. They go sneak up on elephants and enclosed environment woman. They have a Basically a ranger. Who knows how them they just follow some local and then they go? Okay shoe like your pussy. Who cares ears that you shut? Lv You didn't do anything all you did was pull the trigger bro. If you WANNA go kill an elephant be a man to go out there by yourself and and hunt some big game otherwise your bitch. I'm GonNa pull these pictures of the dumb ass trump by the way trump's kids. I mean no fence I know the people like them. But they're the biggest fucking goons on the. I mean. Just look at them. You know what I'm saying Eric. And what's what's the other one's gone. Don Don Jr. J trump I mean look you may like trump as a president and a guy you have to admit that his sons are the biggest guests fucking goons look at these bolt. Look at them Bro. Look at these two idiots. Look at these guys why do I zoom in look look him he looks like a duty looks like the sloth he literally looks like Sloth looks like one hundred block of Notre Dan. This is on slopes snowplows. We should be further shop. That's true because it's too much involves. So where's the real one. I doubt it's much better yet but this this one so much better. It's better than look at his hair and by the way. Trump has a fat daughter that nobody knows. He has a daughter because he hates her. Because she's fat. I swear to God he has an extra daughter. You thought it was just the three them right. Yeah but there's another there's a little boy no but there's a secret autre that's fat I swear to God. Donald Trump secret dodd. Name is tiffany. Oh you see tiffany and it's it's not. It's not a secret but really ever heard of tiffany trump. I've heard of her. Yeah you're right that she's not in the public eye. When have you ever seen her ULA? Never exactly he doesn't like her because she's fat. I fired back. And she's not pretty that's what he says he doesn't like this daughter. When have you ever seen her? I'm dead serious. No maybe she doesn't WanNa know dude. I'm telling you he doesn't like fat people and he definitely doesn't like women at least unless they're you know he wants to grab does he hid himself because he's because it gets thicker than a snicker. Don't you think that the kids are just the biggest goons like this. I want to go back to the hunting. Well okay. So the point that I brought up these goons is Trump sons big our songs sons. Big Game mm-hmm hunting. So I wanted to show you this here. They are with a leopard. Yeah look at these hotshots wow they probably track that down by themselves. Why would you WANNA do that? Look at this beautiful animal lot more beautiful than these goons. That's so sad. It's it's it's horrific I mean here. Here's a look at him with a nut. Does you gotta be some really deeply wrong radio to wind down. Do you WANNA kill Shit but killing Humid's is Illegal look just just posing with the dead carcass. That's your idea of a fun time with this beautiful majestic creature by the Leopard. These are rare. These are not look at that beautiful creature. Yeah look at this hideous monster of a man. I'm not down with that. I don't care what anyone says I don't care about and I don't care if they give a million dollars Zimbabwe for just a million dollars now you care about conservation on the million dollars guy if these guys were crawling around the desert floor like in Predator with mud on their eyes and smelling feces. Maybe I'd have a little respect for the big game hunt. That's not what's going on here. No they're bearing carried in van by some local eating eating. Even though the whole setup is being being set up for them and they're like okay here it is show areas okay. Here's The gun now. They probably put his finger on his finger. Poetry you did it. Oh you're so great so brave You semi something's ackward you sent me. Oh Yeah I mean the the fake one definitely looked the fake one definitely looked like that the real so I don't like the game hunters I don't like this asshole either by the way you know. That's the guy that killed that line. The dentist okay here. All this big game hunter like That mother Fucker who probably weighs more than the line itself nominee nominee live feed brawl. Luke it that creature not not him look at that Beautiful Lion. Let me tell you. This picture is everything. That's wrong with with humanity humanity. Exactly look at that majestic beautiful line. This is a magical creature. Just let it be. Why do you need to go kill line you fat? Fuck Fuck Bro did you. Did you were you literally going through the desert in a wheelchair and like an a mobility. Scooter McGowan yeah and offering get. Oh that that Dan Cohen. Yeah I hate these people I really do. I think they're absolute lowlifes scumbags sickos psychopaths Look at this I mean to get pro when you when these guys die and go to hell I help this images of like on all walls other hell prison. Do this guy just killed a bunch monkeys like did what is wrong with you so yeah. I'm happy when these people. I am actually happy. I have bloodlust for I root for the animals every time due to the homie was just taking up monkeys with a crossbow. Go play video game parents wrong when a crossbow. Think What else what else? What else did it? But I hate these people. I'm a vegetarian so you can't even say shit about me. I saved the world motherfucker am I do I. Am I being hypocritical quiz. I've eaten meat my whole life a little bit. Sure but at the same time. Well I think there's a there's a difference in that the catalyst raised for consumption. These are majestic wild endangered species and And I agree that that that you know. It's probably unethical to eat meat though because of the way their raised. Do I care then. I being hypocritical. Well I'm a vegetarian now and I can see what fucking want. Dan Do agree and disagree disagrees. We got on this topic because we were talking about the deer hunting. Those are the people that got shot. The deer hunters are fine if it's if it's part of Ecological it's part of you know. Maintaining healthy ecology is it always like that and America. It is I think in Wisconsin which is where the story took place it likely yes. There's a lot of of no. There's a lot of places that they could solve. The wolves got run to extinction and the wolves were what kept the deer population and checks now. The deer are completely out of control and they have to call the hurt. Basically call the herd but you eat deer by the way you don't eat lion. I'm completely with you. Yeah fuck the people there on Gore's literally really no distinction between the two types of I agree. There's there's no purpose to killing a lion. You WanNa murder something beautiful pretty much. Ah Dear you can eat you can eat people love venison and you're helping the environment. I'm over it we're deepen episodes. Should you won't talk shit about trump more. No always a big fat burger eating fuck. He's got it by Asimov. The literally wears a diaper. Donald Trump wears nights where to go. Look at a picture of him playing tennis. I'm not even causing a rumors pizzas. Experience isn't instead we president if he has no pizza experience. That's a real question. I think that's it's a platform to run on the pizza category. Oh I think trump has been in the pizza categories that Please do we have a funny story. Ti All these stories are sad. Have coming up there. What about a police chief? Leon you don't like the police chief Lou. Luke Lewis got clouds on there for hairstyle. Do it. I'm so jealous. Very frosted tested tabs are so stupid doesn't like that story. Let's get I like it. I thought it was okay right. Ti What what did you think that. It's that's funny well. I mean it's not funny but it's like you. Can't you know it just happens. You got just goofing on their hair. I mean hello the Internet right. You just gotta own that. Bama's people so stupid. I heard like that crazy. It's dealt. We'd rather her mark McGrath. You're right I shouldn't talk about homosexuality. In which he says Christ Jesus crisis doubt the homos and I said do you WanNa have sex with the woman woman quote. This is off the hinge door okay. So here we've got one that will all enjoy Ti. We've spoke about because he wanted to control his daughters vagina but he's trying to. He said that he takes his daughter every year to the gynecologist to make sure her hyman still intact. He's and he said I'm happy being proud to announce that she just turned eighteen and up until this moment a man's penis has not been inside my so okay so we went on facebook. You're on will Smith's wife. It's called the red tabletop. The red able talk like a podcast. Show you're on facebook which is highly produced by the way I was really impressed with the quality. FACEBOOK is really putting in the. They're trying to make real content. The problem is that it's on. facebook is is this a rift in the Smith House. She's got a facebook show and yeah we'll go to Youtube Youtube show. No Yeah Yeah Yeah Ya. Yeah it's a pretty popular red table talk but on facebook so that's the problem it does look like TV quality Agree it's really well produced. I mean they are have a lot of fucking money and there's no rules Copyright Law doesn't exist shed hell even international law. Even the Geneva don't even exist from facebook. I mean so Here he they dress with. Ti Wilson makes a a little appearance if you want to show that in the beginning he does ti was like. Are you going to stay with us. And we'll know I'm staying. GotTa this one. Oh that's funny. I feel like this family loves attention like well as Bro Yeah. I don't know we'll just just got you know I don't know so the lion scientology onto that. There's been rumors that they are scientology. He donated money to a scientology seeks cool but so far have denied being members of the church. But I think will smith is a perfect candidate for scientology is confirmed that he donated to that. I think it's confirmed. This doesn't mean that as a scientist I think what he said about that is that they were curious about it and looking into it and decided it wasn't for them I'm not sure I believe that. I guess I could become famous enough to get VIP treatment with scientology like the celebrity centre Holywood I don't know. Do you think they recognize you. Don't think they have a new media division no. I don't think I've never heard of a new media. I hope they dawn if they could get me. Hope that all the young scientology kids that were born into it are managing to runaway. Don't you think that they have a good opportunity to convert me like I could really get a lot of people into it. uh-huh cut they. It must be your Your students feel I mean. Might Dayton's aren't down. They don't want it they don't want it's the ghosts that haunt your something goes the hunt your feet tins. Don't believe in scientology but I do onto online so anyway. Let's let's wash will smith say he doesn't want to be involved. I was hoping to be greeted and honored properly properly. Just stay hot zone. You could they say hi to uncover and facebook watch original. Hey did you know. Mark Zuckerberg cells adds to the Russia. They don't care about democracy brought to you by facebook defense if I may say in my defense and I came before the tough stuff. No I easy for me babe quite long. May I ask you one question reputation. Does he talk like Yosemite Sam. And you'll see what I mean. I say I say I do Claire. You'll see what I mean like who I am as well. There's some of US said no you don't yeah do you understand the sensitivity of no really did NAT. Do you want to understand now. Yes I do absolutely I ever. My intentions I think have been terribly misconstrued and misconceived right all right let me go wrong. King Mates Yosemite Sam. I don this references. The Guys Laugh Seventy Sam. Yeah you sound awkward. awkwardly Yosemite Sam. Here's the guy was like. I do a do what is your. That's foghorn Leghorn Bro. Hello this is Yosemite Fam- well I mean that is Yosemite Sam Action Sir. What's the one who I was thinking of? You're talking about Foghorn Leghorn the big the big chicken dude I say I say oh is it. Oh that's what you're talking about. Yes Yup I thought you semi samples and no. He's not coming up nowadays. I don't even know how to say. I never tied now. No pumpkins sounds like big horn. Seventies talk I don't see it I like it never said I was in any exam room. That is an assumption right is a falsity. I didn't think he was in the that is a falsity who talks like that. Falsity he goes that is a falsity look who's talking. You're making up award every second bro. It's way he's is trying what I'm saying he talks. It's like he's doing a stick. I agree I'll come on. He's got he's just got a little bit of a southern accent right. It's not okay. Hey whatever we don't need debate this. It's fake. have been terribly tensions have been terribly misconstrued route and misconstrued. See let me go set this record straight never said I was in any exam room that is. I didn't ever think he was in the exam. That would be horrific at thank. A lot of people took it because everyone was talking about it. So maybe you didn't say but maybe it was if he's in there or not it's still gross. Yeah if he's in the exam room that's like I don't think the doctor would. I love that I think is a falsity. I never said. It was being done present day right as he did say that anyway. Anyway I can tell you because I watched the whole thing. Basically what he's saying is that it was obviously trying to make an entertaining story out of something that is is based on reality but he was exaggerating. And I can understand that. 'cause you know I know what it's like when we dell stories here you try to make a little more funny or whatever but they do they try to explain to him. Why the whole topic sensitive and it really shouldn't like why it was wrong while he was still every year getting the hyman examined? I don't think they were doing it every year. You're like he was saying in the story but he also said in the story he told them he said as of eighteen years old her hymen is still intact thank he always just like trying to be funny I think so. You don't think he's just backpedaling. No I don. What about the tweets wasn't back it was you was sitting there and taken can whatever they had to say about the he? His daughter liked about saying how this is said that she doesn't like there is talking about it and he apologised go to her and should I watch. It's Long I. I think there's like a one minute. Stretch every talks about eighteen year old. ESPN is sixteen years old at the never said that her mother wasn't prison right. Mom Prison Right. You know he was just I in most fathers now but he was just president and he didn't make the disappointment already. You know appointment all of these things all of this narrative this false narrative is just been sensationalized sill at the time. Her mother welcomes your presence. And your to absolutely yeah. That was never any objection right. She did have a problem talking about it right and I understand that I am incredibly apologetic but ultimately he was still checking his daughters. Hyman so ultimately is is in the wrong and with the way he used this whole topic and I think he didn't understand before and he's starting to understand Now like she told him. Do you know for example that it could break from riding a horse and he was like no. I didn't know that and we'll he goes in his story. She Ain't now bride no horse. She Ain't do Athletics Not Sports. He goes athletics. Because because it's stick. I don't understand what you're saying. Talks like seventy SAM. I don't see it now. Do you guys see what he's saying. I don't see what he is saying. And also keep saying somebody Salmon Guy Sack knows what I'm saying I do I I do agree with you and you know what I'm saying and do you guys afraid that. I'm making like racial jokes because I don't think I am I. I just don't think it's accurate that character. They're like he has A. He has a unique cadence. Can we agree on it. It's not unique. It's just a southern accent is from Atlanta. I can I can see why you're making this comparison but I think it's funny when everyone denies what you're saying. Yeah okay so IAN is just hanging out to dry. But he agrees Zach agrees Ian and Dan. Arturo woke apparently to the obvious he sounds like Yosemite Sam yet Dan and Ella are are pseudo. WOKE DOC and I'm calling them out right now all right Oh boy very protective of scares to to UTICA absent nat to any of these Jews. Any of these Weirdos who you know just Kinda toss lies around Ralph. She understands my intentions is she knows who I am. She knows who I've always being right and I think that allows a certain level of understand handed the outside the the noise Yup Yup is distracting is is confusing Hurtful it is is hurtful and embarrassing was horrified. Definitely understood why she would be you know feel like you know was personnel to her quiet. Chaz she doesn't talk latch. Doesn't you know okay. This goes on forever I do I do I do declare it definitely represents like a wrong way of looking at disdains because he puts so much Like it it's so important to him the when when she loses her virginity and like that with the right person or whatever. Here's a quote from that. I pulled from nine fifty here so we don't wash thing from nine fifty. Let's see eh the idea that people thought you were trying to control your daughter's virginity reverses now 'cause very different question okay ask okay first of all the word control is very but you know. That's what it sounds. Sounds like a job. In order to guide or direct you must have a certain level of control of any to agree with that. No that doesn't make any sense. You can't guide and direct and control right you guide and you're the guy. Yeah Yeah Okay so so. So how do you want us to understand your level of control than what you were speaking. We're in the age or the time. Our women black women are the most unprotected ten guest guarded. Yes women on the planet being uncriticised. Because I'm willing to go above and beyond to partake man right and I'm talking about all of the little slamming. Grammy Chevy fingered little boys who want got to just come in defile. Destroy the sanctity that I listen. I'm just saying I just find that whole it's a str- it Bro. At your eight year old daughter. What the sanctity? She's got a liver life right. It's not every dude is slimy chubby fingered chubby finger vagina. Run up on putting so much emphasis on like losing your right right exploration. She's got to do what you gotta do. I don't know you know what I mean like. Yeah and if she ends up with someone someone was not a good guy and then she'll figure it out for herself and you guide her. You don't say you have to break up the him because he's got Chubby Greasy fingers like Newt Gingrich remember the video. That's a call back What do you call us? What do you need a new name for these Hanau device right? I don't understand anything. There is the most important thing to me in my life. I am going to deal with that with very every kind of reminded. Me Of like me being Teenager having to deal with my dad because obviously everything he it did was because he wanted to protect me care so much about me but it was so like I couldn't do anything we'll let me go out with my friends. Let me you know whatever everyone else was doing. I couldn't do and it's just so frustrating. It's just it's not a healthy way to have a relationship with your kid. I understand. There's like good intention behind it but in its got knocked. Good don't mean anything to him. I Man Anna for example you know when I you know when I use the bedade washed my asshole. My tensions are good ed but ultimately when their ship water on the floor and whole masks I do not ease the day. My tensions are good. But they're shit all over the walls and and that's why I don't step into that I like it and I don't understand how bad is looked at as being so wrong order to control for that it'd be Melissa. There must be ill intent. If I'm going to the duck now just stupid point do you just because you can doesn't mean that everything you do is right and it doesn't have a negative consequence. Yeah I've I feel like I know exactly where he's coming from because because of my dad is that old school seventy Samsa. No it off controlling you it okay. But if I'm going for the purpose of being protective parent and there's not as over-protective in particular insane that's an insane Statement to make like I feel like he doesn't even key. Nobody believes that's true. No I think it's really no such thing as overprotected when he just lock her in a jail cell all right a baby. There's no such thing as overprotective. He treats her like she's a car and his collection a baby. But you in this vault with gold coins. At least he's willing to have this conversation and they did. It seemed to be like interested in learning. What's important listen to you though because I don't think it's so much about virginity as much a was it? I say I say I say I say I say I say I say there's no such thing as being over protective. I say those are the sounds like I say I say I say a player to quote him one more time. All the slimy Grammy Grammy Chubby fingered. Little boys want to just come into file and destroy the sanctity that I have any anything is the most important thing in my life. I'm going to deal with that with very extreme care Ti clearing up. The the misconceptions. Finally we have. Dj callard trying to crowd surf. Imagine how this goes you don't you can't yeah. You can't you can't do that Bro. That's like I mean come on. Dj Cal just Kinda like thinks they're just like right to the floor people like you. He's like lost five pounds all like you know these feeling good about his weight. I'm glad that the cameraman's it's like Oh Shit Gals he sinks he just sinks. That's Califor- you still a character. Still still doing it up. Rob Schneider I've always disliked rob shower. I don't think he's funny. I think he's a dish his show the socks he. He puts a filter on his show on Netflix called. What is it called? I have a name for no his show on real real rod. The whole show has this natural blue tint to make his blue eyes pop more I swear to God in the show looks like a joke because everything is so blue and his eyes just shined so blue brilliant blue. I'm sure that he impose production instructed them to just put this incredible Blue Tint. Anyway here is how we is. A notorious Germaphobe OCD CRIPPLING GERMANOPHOBIA and Erupt Schneider comes out Knowing that and fucks with Howie Mellow Hello. DEUCE bigalow has returned to work. This time taking on your. Please welcome Deuce bigalow himself. Rob Schneider the producers by the way are like don't touch how like here. Don't shake his hand on the Wise Schneider he doesn't put his hand out. He grabbed his hand. They don't get over it. I don't know what to get over it. How we gotta get over it? I actually have antibacterial Gel that I actually use that to uh-huh yes a surgeon. I do this to get back. He's minds right now. What's going on in his head? I have no idea here. Oh look the ladies right there in the second real heck antiseptic white. It's okay it doesn't mean you we don't want you to feel bad about your very clear. Nobody touched me and I'm cleaning up. Let's talk about your life a little bit. You were recently. I have to say if you're that. LCD though not the best profession the rear host if the producers have to be like don't touch him. Don't breathe on him but rob is still Douche in a show sucks. And he's not funny. Sorry also he's got the super young Mexican wife that he the fact that Mexican that doesn't she's just exotic because what in South American and in real rob it's real wife she's like in our twenties and don't think twenties. Let's look it up. She's actually I think a writer on the show. Oh well that's why I know that it's bad. I mean she's not a comedian. That's that's what I mean rob. What's his name? Schneider might be speaking addict. Nobody's laughing. She's thirty one so when that show came out she was was in her twenties. She's thirty one. That came out five years ago. Brochure was like twenty six or even though the show insisted on fair you should do. You should watch it like I'm a fan because it's one of those shows that so bad I'm telling you. The whole show is tinted. Blue to make his eyes sparkle. I'm I'm not kidding. And so his young wife like he has her and exercise equipment and tight spandex doing yoga. There's a scene where you could see her acid veg bro. Because she's like she's like this and tights workout spandex and he walks in and she's like this evening. You can see everything. Hey It's crazy zone y you gotTA watch it my crass why why is nobody. I enjoyed join. Your Demo is looking like wha what's going on here what's going on here. Talk to me. I don't got nothing to say to me is a fan of the show. You would be ZAC. Hold on. I enjoyed it. I I wouldn't say it's my favorite show. He's such a Dick on the show. You like the real rob. It was enjoyable. I wouldn't say it's one of my Zach Zach. He just likes everything. I can't hold it against him. The Guy Likes Arby's real the cyber truck. I am well so there. You have a car aficionado. I hated it. I thought it was so bad it was just so dumb. Do you know what I mean about the Blue Tent. Yeah so weird. He's such a Dick allman show though. That's the thing he was trying to make like a Larry. David curb your enthusiasm except there was nothing endearing about him. It wasn't funny. He's a Dick and it doesn't make any sense like the opening scene is him. Let me let me show you. I'm GONNA show you this opening scene where he refuses to tip a Barista and I think. Let me show you the reason I got into his because he was on Howard and he was talking about and promoting it so here. This is the promo the sneak peek. You claim your fucking Clinton talk over. You got to watch this though. Expel five bucks. That's it conference four Bucks County. I tipped you'd expect but you're loaded Ford like one hundred dollars. I could afford like a thousand bucks but you're not going to get that either. It is cheap bastard bastard one hundred percent actually one hundred and twenty five percent. But I'm working in a coffee shop in your rich you could share. Some of that would never happen thing and by the way the world view that it expresses. It's all like this like rob. Schneider is this He's this he's this rich successful millionaire and the world just hates him because he's so successful like the underlying. This would never never happened. And it's not the dialogues. Not Funny and he by the way he's such about actor one hundred twenty five percent but I'm working in a coffee shop and your rich you could share some of that. That's how rob sees the world as everyone even has curbed. She kinda music right and he goes he goes. He's like you could afford more. You could afford one hundred correct. I could afford a thousand. You know what I mean Got Him so then. Somebody was watching a customer. Who's watching Rob Schneider? Yeah and the only tip five bucks. Hey you only tip this guy. Five bucks wait. Thought you were rich. You made those movies with Adam Sandler how much I'm supposed to tip still made five bucks. That's nothing to you. Would you do tip dollar putting your the cheap bastard tip and a quarter not tipping is all about income ratio disparity. What you make millions right? I make like fifty grand a year so a dollar to me is like one hundred dollars to you. Where am I Norway right now? No it's called economics. Here's my economics comics. I'm going to go to one hundred fifty thousand dollar car drive back to my two million dollar house and hang out with my hot twenty nine year old wife. Wow brilliant apply. Here's twenty dollars. Oh so he's got a heart after all. You don't even work here an Asshole Dick you got a change you get ten do. Is that not worth worst. Were St- and you gotta you gotTa Appreciate House. Conglomerate congratulatory is though I the thousand. I'm going to my two hundred thousand dollars car to fuck my twenty nine year old when I am a two million dollar house. How's that for economics? How was that for economics? Dan Do me a favor. Go Watch that show no good all right one. Eight zero eight hot hot man. He loves wrapping it up. Ula wants to rapid. Wrap it up rapid baby to get back. Maybe we've got a baby uh-huh Shit it's fucked in the tits Shit my ass guys if you wanNA leave a message. It's ill. Are you upset. No I'm actually just getting worried about babysitters at leaving a five right now. Your mom is my mom. Okay but just have. I said there's something racist this episode of Being Alexa Races Erasing back to Ah Modiim yet podium for all of our policy towards something races you guys any more than usual unusual one away. One eight hundred eight hot medium if you WANNA leave a voicemail. Let's get some voicemails going from our beautiful loving adoring fans Who are going to go to a Sri Shop DOT DOT COM by submerged and Hilo and back and Dan claims read Wilkinson from Kansas? And and you know with the decade coming to an end I just had a couple for just one question really about what your guys is Means of the decade. While you guys. I'm curious Nima the decade. I don't really decade. I'm not really like so plugged into mean thing you know what the decade in my opinion in his. I'm over it I'm over it. That's my answer. You guys have anything that comes to mind decades along shit backing off again ten years ago. It's like Some two thousand ten memes remember. I don't know that's a rough one. I think it might be Ken. Boone Oh thank you I I feel like I take credit because then bone a little bit part of Kens legacy. You're certainly part of the legacy can pretty. That's Ah Ken Lebar. Ken Bone was good and Ken is just the Basque then like how it turned into liking prego porn. It just the crap it had legs. I think the humongous was pretty prolific named to as Arna right. But does it have as long as the more Marvi Ken bone was like The triple threat. I mean the guy has it all day and I just searched two thousand ten memes and dancing Babia Abia some crazy shit man. Show me what is it like rage. Comex yeah a lot of rage. Thanks a lot of image. Mac rose bad bad luck. Brian remember that Bro. That shit ooh rage comics are single. Hanley the worst. Why you know of about one dozen that intrude intruder still fucking funny one day raping whatever? It wasn't such a good one for twenty. What about double this decade Double Rainbow? That was right around the same time that was like Schmo Yoho. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah exactly double rainbow. While the way across the sky. Well past I remember is that Table Rainbow Waldo way up was. Let's catchy SCHMO. Yoho is name of the decade on a lot of a lot of hits hits schmo Yo the my favorite one I do before I actually was a youtuber quote unquote I was like the biggest Schmo. Yoho Oh fan They were just the coolest fucking thing ever like. I think for me. Hose me mother decade. Like let's review erasing chair and credible content if I sort by Popular isn't Schmo just Michael it's Mojo Yoho but it's a family. It's the brother Nice bed intruder is this. I wonder he's he probably won't claim me for this right. Well obviously we have a rapist in lake him. He's enrolled window. This is two thousand and ten. That's the best one. The one hundred and forty five million views you have. How'd you kids Hyderabad and raping everybody up fair? You know what's crazy on Youtube. These couldn't even this couldn't go anywhere because he says rape in the first thirty seconds and it has one hundred forty five million views that we're going to act like this isn't one of the best videos on Youtube like fuck you Youtube Double Rainbow Song was Even the same year they were on fire. Thank you this was two two thousand ten Yeah Ralston Rainbow. I met this guy utilities off by invited me to his cabinet in Yosemite. Yeah Yeah actually even was he was he tripping yes he was he he says he said No. But obviously how could you react this way. If you weren't on that he said he was not Double Rainbow Guy. Yeah I gotTa say the Decade Coa Pitch for them to do it. That was like huge. The one there's this one of this little kid that I want to show you this. I was thinking I was. I was GONNA go year by year but right off the bat in two thousand ten some pretty solid contenders their Sunny D.. And Rama's good. Where's the one of the kid? It's so good head of a kid kid where he goes. Mommy said WHOA. WHOA MOMMY say? Where's that the parents the WHEREAS THAT SH- mall Yoho debate though I feel like maybe we we should invite the audience to weigh in on this a little bit? This this was also two thousand dollars a year of memes. This the song is a legit daddy said Oh you heard him having say uh-huh Losing Ooh Daddy. I love this on the Houston. That is not the true. There's no reason that Moya who shouldn't still they'll be getting hundreds of millions of US except Algorithm faulk down and your red shoveled Gerrard trouble. Aw I listen to a trillion times so I give the war there you go. I hope that answered your question I think I did. 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I don't know I don't think it's a good idea but problem. My Wait Michio well. US were laughing. When I said let's put him a straightjacket put a mask like Hannibal Lecter? But I know but it's a good idea but you know it's a good the idea if he ever comes on the show out do that. That's the only way I'll let him in this room. If we put them on Ali I think the more important Morton step is to blindfold him on the way to the studio like Bat cave style. Sure he'll agree to that. Take him in a hearse McRae. Pay this is Finn. I live in Pennsylvania and I've got a question for this podcast so every time after. Thank you guys go to break. You always come rushing back to finish it up a little back your question. We answered that we Preempted a lot of these questions. So then there's a couple more nuance one one. Eight hot name guys. Submit your questions there. I love to hear from you. What's on your mind? You know who are you. What do you do where are you going anyway? Orthodox Jew support. 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I'm so proud of you for going vegetarian and keeping up doing what you're doing 'cause it's great and I know you're inspiring thousands of people out there so keep it up and Do you think I'm inspiring thousands of people. I don't know yet. It's only been two weeks three weeks three while you're trying to downplay my treatments you're always always. Yeah I've been hearing for three weeks. I gotTa tell you I love it. I'm all in I I love it. It's great it's a win win. You know there's a phenomenon going on with the vegetarianism where I'm I'm eating because of the feeding window but my dumps are like I mean I'm not trying to be gross unprecedented size and my brother had an interesting theory. He says because you're vegetarian. You're eating more volume. I'm necessarily more calories more volume and I think because I'm eating some more fiber to it's all coming out of you. which is good? You wanted out. Yeah that's he get colon cancer when it sits seriously. Yeah although all the toxins when you're eating meat Nasty Shit burgers yeah it sits in your corn and and that's how you that's how you get colon cancer that's why you WanNa come out quickly Who would think that you know the colon? The place where Shit it passes through. Could you could have shit and it too long. That's like saying your garage becomes you know you can't keep your car garage rush for too long. It'll start leaking oil man. That's true that is true. You got to move your car every week I at this. I've been moving several times the day. Well that's comes to an end so theodore has very strict nighttime routine. You're you yeah so if anyone is wondering why am I so You know wanting to go back. He starts really early with his night. Then we're just the way. Hey He wants it like we tried to push to later but at five that's it he doesn't WanNa play doesn't want anything. He wants his bath and then after the bat it's takes we give him formula the bottle and then go to sleep now. He's great. He's got a really cute routine stars through the night. He's the best but you don't need that you don't need to give a reason for why you want to get his four. I mean it's like four fifteen. We've got a baby little baby. I didn't realize it was so late. But that is that's it. We did it all we said at all. We actually didn't look at the red at me album. We'll save that for later. We'll keep building on it. We are going to be here on Thanksgiving Day. We're going to shoot a special episode. What no I mean? They are going to watch us on Thanksgiving Day. You're not going to be here on Thanksgiving post a video on thanksgiving. Yeah oh I thought you were posing on Friday but cool. Oh that's putting up until I guess that is Friday so we'll put it up on Friday. My Okay alrighty so we will still be coming unlike all these other saps APPs by the way who are on vacation not us. We got a special episode that I'm super excited about and I don't think you guys WanNa miss it so a will be up on the Friday at the usual time. 'cause usual now Saturday shift confusing master. We're actually going to record it tomorrow but our our concept is very fun. I think it'll be a lot of so. I'm looking forward to doing that tomorrow. Actually it'd be fun. I'm looking forward to it H WE SHOP DOT COM one. One eight eight hot name. I polished for my racist remarks. This show I feel bad. I don't know what I did but I still feel is making me feel bad. Apologize for the minorities like you did. I mean I can't I just didn't understand your reference reference either. I'm going to get I know it was Pooh poohing your Foghorn leghorn in comparison. You thought I was saying racist but I wasn't. I just didn't think he sounded like it. Sounds like I think he does an everybody else. Back there Zaken Ian sees what. I'm sang silent. Because he likes it. 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To Ease Branding Woes, Papa Johns Gets A Big Hand From Shaq

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04:19 min | 2 years ago

To Ease Branding Woes, Papa Johns Gets A Big Hand From Shaq

"Vis episode of Business Wars daily is brought to you by sent pro online from pitney bowes shipping and mailing from your desk is never been simpler than with sent pro online from Pitney Bowes. Try It free for thirty days and get a free ten pounds scale when you visit http dot com slash B W daily <music> from wondering I'm David Brown and this is business daily on this Monday. July fifteenth hope you're weak is off to a great start. Papa John's is the fourth largest pizza chain in the nation and and the one in the deepest trouble in twenty eighteen following the ouster of founder John Schnatter Papa John's sales fell by almost twelve percent such a steep drop that it depressed the entire pizzas sector according to trade publication. Application nation's restaurant news now the company is pulling out the biggest gun at confined to turn Papa John's around Shaquille O'Neal. Yes the former basketball star has joined the company's board invested in nine in Atlanta locations and will serve as Papa John's brand ambassador in the walkway outside. One of the Atlanta restaurants are imprints of his footsteps all size twenty two of them sure it's fine but it's also a symbol of just how much power Papa John's needs to truly revived the ailing company as a reminder the chains troubles began in twenty seventeen when then CEO schnatter blamed softening sales on the N._F._L.'s handling of players who were kneeling during the national anthem protests of police brutality and social injustice several months later schnatter admitted to using the N. Word during a conference call Papa John's stock tanked schnatter was forced to step away from any row with the company although he remains a significant. Can shareholder a series of lawsuits followed now eighteen months later Papa John's is making big investments in strategy and marketing and his finally beginning a slow recovery in addition to bringing Shaquille O'Neal into the fold a deal that cost Papa Papa John's about eight point five million dollars last month the company announced it will spend eighty million on marketing and financial assistance to its U._S. Franchisees. That's at least the second time since the controversy began that it provided direct financial help to its struggling franchisees. The outcome of its efforts remains uncertain however in part because the market itself has changed significantly in just the last few years as food delivery options have expanded banded pizza has lost its position as the go-to food for people ordering out as a category pizza sales dropped five percent in the last year alone shacks going to have to use every ounce of his friendliness and his experience in the restaurant. Restaurant business to help Papa John's overcome its reputation woes but also to compete with the nation's number one pizza chain domino's his won't be a slam dunk even an N._B._A.. Legend might struggle in this match job from wondering this business wars daily subscribed to our show for free on apple podcast Google podcast stitcher or spotify and thanks so much for listening sleep. I'm David Brown and we'll see you tomorrow. This episode is brought to you by central online from Pitney Bowes Shipping and mailing from your desk. Has I've never been simpler than with Sunpro online from Pitney bowes with simple online is just click sand and save for as low as four dollars ninety nine cents. That's right four dollars. Ninety nine cents a month. Send envelopes flats and packages.

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Rebranding the PhD with Chris Humphrey

Papa Phd Podcast

52:32 min | 9 months ago

Rebranding the PhD with Chris Humphrey

"Hi David. Welcome to season two of Papa PhD to kickstart the second season of interviews. I'm bringing you someone who's been helping researchers figure out their careers for a while now, and who will be recounting how he navigated his transition and how he got to the position. He's in today. But before we go into the interview I, want to quickly share with you what new features you'll be noticing starting today on Papa PhD. The first big change is that the interviews are now going to be shorter around forty minutes and they'll will be published as a single episode on Thursdays. Second you see that I'll be spending more time discussing what my guests do today and what advice they have for you and you'll see. The more we go into the interview, the more value find. So be sure to stick around till the end. And finally, every episode I will have short section at the end where I'll be sharing trails of podcasts I. Think you'll enjoy and that are friends of the show. I hope you enjoy the new format. So without further ADO, here's episode one of the Second Season of Papa. Peachy. Took in the UK. Fifty percent of PhD's Austin and academia three and a half years after they graduate. Busy doing research woke still post some people are doing teaching lecturing and some some are in positions awful. Pitch Dis will be working outside of academia. When you tell that especially like first and second year PhD's they couldn't believe it. It's like mind blowing. You know even when I talk to people and they introduce myself have got PhD and they say. Working oxford-cambridge paged that must be what should have been doing. Welcome to Papa PhD with David. Mendez the podcast where we explore careers in life after Grad, school with guests who have walked the road less traveled and have unique stories to tell about how they made their place in world of constantly evolving rules. Get ready to go off the beaten path and Huchon for an exciting new episode of the PhD. So today on Bob. Peachy I, have with me. Dr, Kris, Humphry. Kris Humphry is a project manager and careers consultant and the founder of the popular careers website jobs on toast. He holds a B A in English studies and an MA in culture and social change both from the University of Southampton. He completed his PhD in Medieval Studies at the University of York in Nineteen Ninety seven and held a postdoctoral fellowship until two thousand. Since, leaving academia Chris has worked as a project and program manager in the private sector specializing in technology transport, financial services, and sustainability. Today he works as a team leader and project manager for a leading European, sustainable. Bank. Chris is passionate about helping people with their careers and Personal Development He has given numerous career stocks at universities in the UK, Ireland Australia and the US. and has taken part in life. Events on the Guardian's website and for jobs dot CO DOT UK amongst numerous other contributions. In Twenty, twelve, Chris founded the website jobs on toast as a way to help masters, students, doctoral graduates, access the abundant opportunities available outside of. Higher. Education. In our long conversation Chris shared his academic journey all the way to the Post Doc. In today's episode I'm sharing with you what came after how and why he started his career outside academia. Welcome to Peachy Chris. Well thank you. David, for inviting me for having me on. I'm really happy to have you here especially given the years of experience you have helping people with masters and Ph ds like just mentioned finding their path and I think a word. That I think is really important is in the abundant number of career opportunities that are out there I think this one key thing that that people are going to. Wealth people need to understand to kind of break this this feeling that they may be failing at life or at least at the their professional life if the. End Up leaving academia after after graduate. School. Yeah it is. It is. So hard to describe when you see the light bulb come on somebody's head in new. People people just say. It. Yeah. And it. It is. What always of joys me on like just when somebody says down they felt or how lost or how they didn't know what to do, and then they say that you I when you're okay now I just. Found the way forward or hope or something you know you just why would why would have stopped? Doing what I'm doing I mean because that's the greatest thing you can do. Even if you change one person's mind or sometimes I talk to one hundred people you know I think if I could. Difference that many people but not like yourself day job what you're doing on your the more that can do it that more intense. We can have and we can reach more people in our own countries or in different languages. or different backgrounds. So yeah, it's it's cool to fail that there's more there's more of us than. Doing this doing this thing. You don't just listen think about being a PhD that just you just have this unique. Bonding Experience With With with anybody else like I just met you but you know it just. It's strange. We everyone knows what they went through, and then just you can just click with people and. It's powerful as powerful stuff. So as I mentioned, we talked before about Chris's PhD and you can find our full one hour and a half conversation on the Papaya she youtube channel. We eventually also talked about what led up to his post doc. Chris. Was Now considering after his post doc and after the his after applying to some lecturing positions and not having the materialize thinking. Okay. What am I going to do an end looking at the non-academic landscape and seeing where he was going to fit? How did you go about that? Were there appears around you who were also having that reflection. How. Was that process? How easy was that process or not easy? I was that that. Exploration. Let's say. He is kind of mixed because I think on the one hand. As I kept getting rejections from the academic jobs, Kinda go to feeling of. Like feeling of running out of time or this is this isn't going well. If I could just get academic job everything would be. Okay. So that was like a downside to it but on the other hand you know. I was really excited by the things that I was saying around me like like the Internet was something that was just really taking off in the late ninety s and I was just fascinated by the internet and this whole and. I mean I. I say Democratic Dissemination of information which is. Not. Disney triple the time easily, but the way. To access to information or study or learning the United. States can be quite elitist or privileged or and causal money and time, but just like the idea that. The anybody can just access any type of information videos and things as well. It was coming along time and could learn anything. They had the Internet connection did just Exchange. My view of the world and so excited me as an educator and as a scholar, this potential and always really enthused by that and could see this trans transformative potential of it and so that's when I kind of thought. Well, this could be an area where. You I would be happy and excited to work in, and then I had to try and figure out. Well, how do I get to that from medieval studies? kind of like the opposite. Of this new of this new techy technological thing. But then I figured out. There was this area of e e learning with a training where people were taking courses that which Clause three more even vote on a CD. You know we're not making it to the web and I just thought is dies That's what I'm GONNA do. I really had to look. For jobs and companies. looked. Learning companies read white papers and things are. Looking googling jobs, you know learning jobs based training and I saw that they were these jobs out Aaron. Didn't necessarily know how to do them. I felt confident that if I applied job I reckon I could I could do that and so that was my plan B. Really that. Stuff didn't work out then come at the end of my funding. This was going to be. and. Again, we're we're around you also having the same questions or were you were you on your own in this in this exploration and career exploration this new domain? Yeah I think most of my peers were they will get it. They were applying for academic jobs and getting academic jobs. So I think that was one of the one of the challenges although some. Maybe. Because it was one. Of Us. Were there's only there's any sort of doesn't also people so actually. Making some of the years below they people were interested in. Join the civil service you know they weren't GonNa go into the academic GonNa. Go enjoying governments during the government or maybe they were more interested in administrative positions in universities. Like cabin. Like Alumni Association publicity. Officer, Ot side like computing and that type of thing. So I think some people were kind of there was a broad mix I. didn't. It was I wasn't alone a unique in that respect. Yeah. But you you're talking about googling at that today, we have it on on our phones you know at the time it was not as. It was not as widespread and it was the experience was not the same as it was today but. My question is how how was it to try and contact because you mentioned the imagine eventually you had to contact people he had to apply for positions but. How easy was it and how did you go about You know getting to the interview that or the interviews that led you to your first job after your post. Doc. Think did apply for jobs that were in universities I that seem to be a good fit, and then I was looking at these kind of private companies as well. Trying to think, think it was moan- something like a monster. Quedo. Joe Joe Boorda's it wasn't where I saw this job in this leading company down in South East of England. So long way away from where I lived. Just, any landings startup company and I just I. Sent my CV to them. And Yeah got. Response by come down, come down for to be so. The thing is I never I never actually did any of the things I advise to do like Like networking or this type of stuff you know inflammation interviews with things I tell people to do I actually did not any of that I did I did the research into the industry I did that but I had no network I had no and so. But. It didn't know I didn't know. Then that's what you needed to do I was. Just kind of going kind of. Discovering as I went yeah. Yeah. So that so this interview did lead to your first position would did you get it at that time? Yes I went for my first interview I went down to. To south east of England just outside London and had an interview and. With the with the guy he was going to be my manager after. About twenty minutes of talking he said Oh. Let's just in the chief executive had been now. They came in and then they said Yeah we just WANNA. Offer you the job you know. Y. Considering I didn't know how to do it. You know but stay where they were. They were a startup. So they had a lot of techie kind of people who could build software that would deliver a cool. They didn't have anybody very much educational. He could you how to structure information. Villainous. Yeah and so they would just you know they will king King signed signed me up and Know we talked about salary and that type of thing and yeah. Basically had to yeah. Just call my wife and say Yeah I was going. To propose would-be which new down to the southeast. England. So it was it was it was quite a change for us, but it was for me I was so excited because. I didn't want to finish my post doc funding piece. It does seem very negative view, but like stuck in stuck in York, teaching part time waiting for something to come up with just. Didn't happen and I really. Relieved as well to have something positive and and energizing to kind of take me forward something modern a real opportunity and they were trusting you to fill to fill this position and I guess you dove into it and you learn to whatever you need to learn. I imagine with no in a hands on approach to be with the team around you but. The question I have is, so what were you bringing to the table? Apart from you had been in academia violent and so teaching learning something that you had bathed in for a long time but specifically giving given the this was now okay. kind of a software it was a sufferer startup. How we know what do you think? The interview was the thing that they that they They looked at you and said, okay, this is this is the guy who's going to fill this position. The the best. The best thing I did was I kind of did a pitch, the pitcher and I said. It's funny when I say this now because it's so we do this every day but I said like my vision is ten. One day like. If if you've got a problem with the spark plugs on your car, you know. You will be able to get your phone or computer watch video about how to change the spark plugs, and then you'll go to the shop buy them, and then you're do uplift on it up and you'll you'll do not yourself and this the Internet makes it possible for people to learn and do things themselves and they was brilliant they just they absolutely enough that and it's so funny when I tell the story now because like what my kids do like isn't that everyone does not in it. In that time. That was that was and then I don't mean to sound like I'm bragging boasting anything saying like Hey I'm the visionary or something, but that's just. Ahead logical extension of what was happening I saw that potential but what I was trying to do to. See it from the customer's point of view and I. think that's the thing what they didn't want to do is just like hire some theory educational theory guy who relate to that end user customer I think this'll vision is set for them was like his end user and here's what they'll buy or here's what they're gonNa do with what you're making. I think that's something that really. Help them. No I was kind of. Customer centric persons use the kind of. Walk the the jargon or what we look for in business. You know we look for people who come from the customer's point of view. So I think it was good. It was and had no had no I didn't deliberately do that. I just kind of tried to be. Transparent and passionate as possible about what the tension for this technology was. But I think that was what made the difference. Showing some creativity and showing that because. I don't know how much had. You told me that you had studied the industry and and really looked into what was out there. But it also show that you kind of knew what their mission was and. Then projected into the future for sure there was there must have made an impression in the hires you I really want to Iran given all your experience talk about you know your experience talking to students and and and and giving them advice. Even though you said that at the time, you didn't follow the advisor to give out but maybe later on in in the interview, but I'm still interested in knowing Because this is very different from what you were setting out to do while you were applying for electric. Electric positions right. Who you must have had. Not Maybe I should say you must have had but. was there some sort of like morning for your academic career that you had to go through mourning process? of saying okay well. I. Went All as far as I could. This is not a materializing and and I'm going to turn a page was that an easy process to you. Or? was. It was some some little pain there from from kind of leaving academia how how was how was that and I mentioned that once you've got this position you probably forgot about of that you were excited about this new thing but still this transition and this this because we were also there's a community that kind of leaving and eventually you even moving from from the city you were for a while. Yeah Kit some is interesting because I think. So excited energized by this new opportunity that that just kind of like carry carried me three allowed the stuff. Because as you can imagine, you know in that final year my post, there was a lot of. Pressure on this whole thing about what are you going to do next away you've expectation and responsibility as a as a father as a husband and. Put up for myself by myself. But nonetheless, it was Kinda way heavy on me I guess and then it was really energized by this new opportunity. So I, think I think I always had the ambition in academia go as far as I can and I think that's when I look back on it. That was my ambition. I'm going to go as far as I can and actually when I look. Back I did I did go as far as. You know. It wasn't it I didn't. If I didn't have the aspiration to be professor like from day one if you. I saw as A. A fantastic opportunities do PhD funded to do post funded in people to give me money. For me to produce research, high quality, research know and and so. I. Kind of mournful like I never wish I could've been lecturing if you know what I mean I. was I was I was grateful GNC had a fantastic experience There was troubles near the end because it was. But it wasn't so much. I think I will say publish. Thesis a book. So I kind of felt like everything I kind of wrapped it up and it was a neat package really and I could leave that. You know that was the book and now I'm going to go into another chapter of my life and. I think he was a little bit maybe dealing with other people's expectations. Sometimes I wait until kept conferences after I left academia Going some conferences would go and see people when they would so to say, oh I'm sure something will turn up Chris and they were trying to be kind of sympathetic and it was it was kind of jarring because it was Kinda like well. You know things that goofy me so. Those things to deal with? It other people's expectations maybe as much as as much as anything. You kind of touched on the the point where I wanted to get, which is, I feel and interacting with people out there that there's there's a lot of this idea that if you leave -demia you're failing somehow and you're not. You're just changing another. You're changing pats and you're going to bring with you. Your quiver full of. Different. You know different skills and abilities that you ain't to use somewhere else. In something else in they're going to excel at but that was my point. So my where I Wanted to get his. Well the there can be an myself. You know when when you, there's an institute, there's people there's a community that you kind of go away from. There's there's always a little bit of maybe sadness there. But professionally, and in terms of the big picture of your of Your Life, you'd just you know you just pivoting and doing something else it's not. People shouldn't be afraid of of whatever's outside academia. There's a lot of things out there exciting stimulating and fulfilling. Yeah. Exactly. Right. Because it's it's is easy to stick with what you know. But when you look at it you you can't stay in it forever because you need you need you need you need. Money to live. And you need a direction Tyson, you need to feel fulfilled and that's the risk that people hang hang around in the environment because that's that's where I. Really WanNA help people especially if they you know junked tangled doing something where they're very low pay but they filled out so that they can do and it isn't but it's Yeah. It's interesting is mixed. Mixed emotions and I think it probably, it took a long time. I didn't have a lot probably ten years. I didn't have a lot to do with academia joy lashed gradually resolve wound things down, and then I was I was in embracing his whole new world of in Business and project management and sustainability. So I had a lot of. Exciting things and passions didn't really sort of more than what I'd left behind because I was really stimulated by what I was doing next year and you were growing on on the you're growing this whole other side of of a few of your abilities and of your know for sure. So you just mentioned project management sustainability. So how? How did that before we talk as I really want to talk about things to do with with you know finding a career after you reach the end based on all the you have but still on your journey, how was this transition into project management and now sustainability? How did you navigate that and? Also what's do you think? From up st in terms of skills what you think allowed you to go into these domains. Accident. So I was working at the learning company for about two two years and then one day the my boss came in everyday that he would normally say. Oh Good Morning Chris and I was Good Morning Nigel and he said I see Chris. Not Good Day today because the venture capitalists who are funding, US withdraw funding they're not going to fund US anymore. So you you've lost your job today now. We're GONNA have to close the company So that's it. So it was quite a shock could blow to me of having. Made. This jump related family and everything like that. Yeah just lose my job and not even have any notes. You know like a notice period where you'd be paid literally didn't get paid for that month's work even so It was a media, the ring, my wife, and say I'm just lost my job. Because the company Gone Bust there's no. Nominee to get made redundant. You get a notice period or more pale for something like that. But. We didn't even get paid for that month's work. So it was quite quite a blow and. And the thing to happen and but you know I. Love. This is one of the ways. That their soreness of repurposing myself to get a career outside academia is like, okay I already did this once and It can't be as. Bad as that because I've experienced but then I was a bit like well, how much experience have I really go. The other thing will say that we were leaving we were leaving house we decided to relocate to the South West of England. So a complicated financing was that we were actually. Thing. As. Well. So not didn't help but some. Yeah. Just through talking just people and Ashley was connection of my Dad he knew a consultant and he knew he knew and managing director of a company that might have a possibility. Yes. So I Sent my CV to them and they had the agency for somebody to. Trainer and technical? That included quite fit in quite well with the sort of e learning stuff on the end sort of teaching training background and the writing. So Yeah Java Dent working on. Is Will you probably know what you've probably seen them, but it's like you know at on on bus stops you have the assignment tells you countdown wins the bus GonNa come yes. Like in five minutes in three minutes, the buses Jew. So it was a company that made software. So the bus talks to the bus stop and that was job with I didn't know anything about this stuff. I would end up going into bus stations train bus joy. Right manuals this type of stuff. So yeah, it was a good. It was a good sorta them. First step for me to get another job and then so to start to start to rebuild my career. Okay this makes me think of something. They're also mention often which is. Give yourself a chance to or don't try to don't aim to find the dream job right away. Gives. The chance to Go with what works at the moment or the best if possible in whatever's in your horizon and then you'll build up experience and eventually next time you change. Then you're going to kind of level up to something that's closer to maybe what your dream dream job is. So here you were in domain that had. Was really you know far departed from whatever you had done before and And they're very different in the direction you were having and even in the mission, let's say of and you went and I imagine that you you gain with that experience. Yeah because I I've been there for a short time and then they. The managing director also me to do a little research project to make a recommendation about how they should. A structure, the business because. Of that the business was taking of a data about public transports like buses and trains and crunching it altogether say that then be used a websites where people go in search and we're so used to doing it now it's not flattens but this is in the early part two thousand. Yeah. People would actually bring up a coup and say, yeah, I'm in this town I want to go to that town. Can you work out with journey by bus and then they would put it into some software and intelligent the journey. Just want to tell my kids is like. Ring up someone and ask this information. But this is this is what we did. Yeah and the two thousand, and so we would really this company has some contracts to gather this information for about forty for nearly half of the UK actually and put it into these different regional national websites. So I actually made a recommendation about how this could be structured, and then they direct managing director said, do you want to run it? Then be the manager of this department so I couldn't really say no. So I said Yeah Okay I'll do that and I two people working for me and that holy to computers and we have to send out CDs every week to use different cool centers United. Was Yes had to burn CDs and put them in the post. This is so funny when you look back because. I've never done that, but it was just the confidence that I can see I can see how this could be done, and as long as you can you have the confidence in your ability and you can also assure the people that. You'RE GONNA give your best shot and keep communicating with them, and if things go wrong, be honest and ask for help you know. Achieve I. Think you're always GONNA get supported. So that was my real. Luxu- land on my feet are actually kind of you know. Go to go to management position within within a software company. Decent average civility. Did you hear that. With all the abilities and skills you've developed so far a lot of what ends up differentiating you in pushing you forward in terms of your career has to do with the attitude with which you face challenges you presented with. His self confidence honesty and open communication were key for Chris in advancing into a managerial position of more responsibility at this stage. In the second part of our conversation, Chris? Dan went on to talk a little bit more about this idea of starting lower in an organization to climb the rungs faster as. Once you've shown your colors and taken on a few challenging projects. Yeah. No and again, another interesting thing is once you get into a position that's maybe. Lower than you expected if you if you prove your capacity and you get involved on projects that are maybe a little bit on the side of of what your job description is, you're going to be noticed and you can evolve within the company. It's also it's also something that that no, you don't know when you're coming out of a peach or does that that businesses work like this you you can evolve you can. Grow within an organization. Yeah I think that's a really good point because. Kadena it doesn't. It's a very linear hierarchy. Slow progression. But actually in companies and organizations, you know they they especially, if they're small that quite flat and if you're sometimes you have to go lower to go higher. That's one of the things I say might feel like was have ever step down because at this very prestigious research fellowship at this talk university and now. I of my doing working for this software company out in the middle of out in the middle of nowhere. But actually when you you take the plunge, you learn absorb and then you get recognized within the company and then the next step for me is that. After author and a couple of years I realized that knowledge on. Howard. was quite extremely valuable and that's when I was starting to look for a job as a consultant because I realized. I could. I could. An. Law Money. And we have some new challenges by just if somebody I was hired me out as a consultant. So that's really my next step to get hide. Is it as a transport consultant on? Yeah that's what I did next. and. So then then eventually You you went also into project management And This even in the bank working today that's how he started. Right? Did you go get training for project management or did things? Did you organically through your experience grow towards towards those positions? It was really also. A sense of? Arrogance that I could do it. Other people. To Software Company, and then we need we took on new contracts people had to manage. I'm GONNA give this data to the despite the government or something like that, and just looking at it and seeing how other people were doing it and just thinking you know I I could do this is not my job but like do this better more structured I would. Talk to the stakeholders better and run it better and so then I. Took on some responsibilities and then joined the consultancy. I was actually a project manager for higher type of thing. So then A. Consultancy hired me out to welcome projects mainly European. Commission funded transport projects. So yeah. That's when I was. I was for three years. I was the manager of. Research Project. Into congestion charging benefits, the benefits of introducing congestion charging in cities how much does it reduce congestion pollution? What can you do with the money and I run a big research project on that which is it was good because it was my research background but it was also I was hired out by the company to to the European Commission to manage that project. I was good. I Love International, travel. I didn't have any training in it was just. To me just. Sort of comes naturally I think it will say from the PhD just like giving from something. That's an idea to a methodist clergy to a plan to the delivery of the plans, the conclusion, the handover about things that the customer, the end user it just that's what a PhD. Writing an article something isn't it's just Yeah and that's one of the big. Transferable skills transfer all set of skills what you just said one of the big transferable set of skills that PhD's maybe are not conscious that they did. They come with after the that they do have and that they can use in whichever industry they desire because a again often you'll have to prove yourself to the organization because P people won't. Right away pitch put you in a management position. Come you know coming out of academia in and for many reasons because you hadn't proven herself in the industry, but quickly PhD can get into a position start proving proving himself or herself, and eventually access these these managers, these product management positions of high responsibility because they have the capacity to analyze crunch data. You know put build projects from scratch and then deliver and I think it's It's something that listeners out there that are could they're thinking? Employable after you might. You are. Talking definitely. Front project management is it's such a massive growth industry i. mean I never yeah. When I was at school university I never really knew much about it but you a change as Kinda cliche changes the constant now but when you look at rate of change the pace of change in our society. And who is who is the he was with the people managing those changes that project managers, and it could be like the could be the Olympics or it could be. Election candidate or it could be the upgrade on your phone every time something changes or was a big event or something project managers have to sit down with a blank sheet of paper and work out and it's it's it's really to me to feel part of that that community. Project managers and see I guess eventually that's how my professional identity is solidified whereas it was originally. So it's like a research. Will maybe he know what kind of? Education learning specialists have been tech companies but really might. Might federal agencies solidified around and project manager or even now it called sort of chain manages because is becoming less the case. Okay. Change Managers Yeah because the case that. There's a distinction between light run run the bank change the bank is you can talk about with banks. So in the old days, banks mainly run the bank most of the banking was the same, and then maybe some department introduced some new thing every so often but the now the. Road is still important power what banks do obviously running day to day operations but. There's so much change any time you know anything about banking on your phone. And all these sorts of services that th the changed the bank functions is become much bigger. It's not an occasional thing happens every so often, but it's a constant. Yeah. All the time you know and you you you can't stop like we think about your phone you can you com- you can't stop having updates. which my phone would just stand still willingness doesn't it? It keeps it keeps changing and that's really what's exciting to me is when is When is how do you manage continuous? How do you manage continuous change? Yeah. It's interesting and it's really we notice it on on your phone banking is definitely one of them and now imagine with crypto currencies getting more and more importance I. Anyway. I don't think we're going to go into that but. I find it very interesting from what from what you said, the used the term solidify my my professional identity solidified around this this activity that I developed but. What one thing I find interesting interesting is don't be afraid of. Not Knowing what you're going to become when you when you leave because that's going to materialize with time and again because you you probably want, you may be lucky and have very good networking and start right away with the job that you adore and that you're going to stick. With life, but it's not it's not a given. So I think that's that's a very, very interesting interesting thing and he goes what I said before. Give yourself time to slowly get to where you WANNA get right. But yeah. One thing. We're reaching the end I am kind of annoyed that. We're we're my time is almost ending for this. For the interview but so. Along with all of the at a certain point, you decided in two thousand twelve to start something to give back to the community you had come from in a way, the students the PGA soon as the Masters Students, which is jobs on toast and. You know you've spent all these years kind of. The mission that I have kind of taken for myself of helping people out there who are doing their master's were doing their PC or post stock. And who are in doubt about what is my future? What's my professional future? Let's just like to talk a couple of minutes about jobs on those about what your experience has been maybe changes you've seen in the in the in the in the latest years because things are changing. The. Ender. Maybe finish by sharing two or three pieces of advice for people out there who may be anxious about not really knowing what they're professional future will look like if or when they. Ended up leaving academia. Yeah I mean I guess. Is Interesting John came about like. Deputies. Way. I was invited by my dissertation advisor to go up to your thousand nine to give it a little seminar on the on the topic I was invited. It was like how to market yourself careers outside of academia pick and. Jeremy asked to go up and could you dislike took on this subject for narrow so we'd be pleased to how you never really thought about it. So I went to do that and gave that talk and. You know it was just really it without sort of blame trumpet as such. The impact it made on the people here in not room and the change in. Demeanor and how these spoke to me and they spoke afterwards was. It just like it just showed to me that there was there was a need I never really thought of our densify that this information was really helpful beyond in the room. But so I just thought, well, how could this information get to a wider audience because really at that time it was not anything else and I, think that's toll PhD may have being around and. So but then I really determined how could I get some of this information what I've just said? The Internet, you know if I could just make a website disseminates it. and. Maybe. Go Talk other universities so that's when I It took me a long time because it took me until two thousand twelve actually to figure out blogging and how to make a website and I was busy with my job and my family and everything. was always a project. Yeah. But I Lord Scienc- thousand twelve and just really kind of built up tried to have an ambition of light. Once every two months rising something. Going trying to give talks and then reflecting on my experiences of that and writing about that so. Yes in the beginning it was really trying to find the way and it was linking up with some other people as well like like Jenn poke I'm from from Canada and the other days from PhD to life just trying to find other people Hainkel from cheeky scientists on the same kind of mission and so yeah that's like in different countries but it was but he was very, it was very early days but. I mean it's interesting now because I, kind of feel like their staff loss of people who who joined in from different countries. Yeah. Like yourself David just really it's really exciting to me that. What will I started over a couple of started off is really great into a bit more of a movement and. Also to see the impact on universities that is not son. Often thought you know really that, hey, maybe one year we should think about talking to the PhD's about other careers but actually some universities a building into their actual graduate training careers, advice and careers outside of academia. That's what excites me is that. In ten years, we've actually built with into A. INTO THAT It is a, it is changing and. Some. A lot of the people you mentioned are still. There in in helping a lot of people the things that have changed lately. In terms of. Spreading the message our twitter. Social, in general podcasting for sure is is is something that that has brought a different. Reach. Andrea but but. What I find interesting in the conscious I've had a at universities is i. feel that even universities now are. Getting the message that that. They need to prepare the students for this reality of not everyone can become a professor and it's it's as simple as that not not everyone apart from not everyone just a small percentage of people have and I think even now with with all this, the the the problem with covert and and with the pandemic, the closing up of of universities all of that is even getting more access to those positions is getting even more more difficult. At this time. Yes. So I mean, typically the UK something. Like fifty percent if PhD's Austin academia three and a half years after they graduate and so yeah. With a bit of a split of. some some deeper obviously doing research work still. Stuck some people are doing teaching lecturing, but probably half of will pay. Something, somewhere in administrative positions. Awful pasties will be working outside of academia. When you tell that to especially like first and second year Steve's they, they can't believe it. It's mind blowing and. Even even when I talk to people about. People and they introduce myself southbound PhD or something, and they say, what? What are you working Oxford Cambridge you've got to pay. That must be what you should help in doing and it's it's. It's it's interesting this powerful expectation, but it's trying to educate people really about. coolest. Sometimes, like career consciousness developing conscious beyond just just wha- who's around you. But actually this whiter this way to picture when you tell people the statistics I think. That that is real sort of netter them. Because the important thing and. Busting the time but is this doesn't mean? Stop. And go do something else doing up she is something that's going to this to a lot of value to your to you as a person. To you as a contributor to society later on just don't. Just expect that. It's not a given that you're going to end up being professor but like you said, you can say India all act college, right? The alternative academic career paths that are out there. There's a lot of things you can do in around the university but then. The. The job market out there needs sometimes the in I. It's funny. I'd love I'd love to have your input on that maybe another conversation. Industry doesn't know they need pc's but they do and when the interview these people they're like okay. Oh, this is actually a very good candidate I'm going to take them. GonNa take them in. It is interesting because PhD's like we need. We need like a branding agency got something. Totally. I think in some ways, what I've been trying to do with jobs on taste really is elevate is like how do you? How do you rebrand the PhD? Some the? Different to the people who are doing it, and so people outside I think it's very hard. It's very hard. Job Employers it's kind of it's going to. It's kind of impossible but I think we have done a good job and I say things in the media now, which I would never have seen about about as being light multi skilled and flexible knowledge workers who can kind of what we were saying they switch from project to project. What we are capabilities very much fit the kind of. The the job market of today I think as long as we can. We've. PhD's can make the. League employers can also drop center that prejudice is a as well definitely the the. Love imaginative leap because. You picture yourself in that position, allow yourself to picture yourself in that position and then go talk to the people. The things you said he didn't didn't do per se but but go go. Find people around you who know someone who does that job that interests you they'll be happy to and know especially if they have a PhD to, it'll be happy to take time to take coffee to have lunch with you share their story and maybe point point you towards something that might interest you. Chris Yeah, we really have reached the end of our time. If. People want to want to reach out to you want to You know a C-, whatever you you've been writing lately. How where can I reach you? Why can they reach you online? What's the best way to to be up to date with the with with what you've? Up to The faces to go to jobs on toast DOT COM. Nastase. My my website were probably published an article every every two months but Yeah you can say I'm on twitter so that's just Job On toast So yeah, I'm. Trying, keep up a putting out content on twitter by sharing content, but it was sharing some of the best. Stuff. RAPE HD careers. As well, so yeah, there's places where you can where you can find the excellent Chris. Thank you so much for for having a to come to the microphone and chat with me a definitely I would have talked. A full other our. Because this we know there's so much talk about. Who knows if we can if you can have another conversation maybe on a specific theme I, I'd love to but thank you I i. it's really an inspiring path the to the to have a an inspiring journey that you've had and to me it's especially inspiring that you you take time. To apart from your professional life family life, keep trying to bring this message to people in graduate school out there that there's A. Whole Universe of things out there that they can do after graduating and that they will be fulfilled at doing and and you intellectually stimulated and part of. A productive part of society and? I think that's very precious and it's very noble. My statement weren't enjoyed talking to you. Thanks for inviting me on. High again. I, hope you enjoyed the conversation and that you took at least one take home message from it. If you did make sure to subscribe on your podcast APP and to share Papa Peachy with your friends. 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Comedian Tom Papa

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Comedian Tom Papa

"The Bulls eye with Jesse. Thorn is a production of maximum fund dot org and is distributed by NPR. Jesse Thorn. It's Bullseye. There's a new special on Netflix. That I want to tell you about sprite. Comic named Tom Papa. I loved it. It's called you're doing Greg Thompson. A comic for a long time. He played the comedy cellar in the early nineties. He toured many times with Jerry Seinfeld and he has half a dozen specials on his resume. This one now is a little bit different. Tom Has never exactly been a cynical comic. He's always been the friendly observational type. But on this special. He worked hard to erase the cynicism from his act. Which in my mind is partly why. It's so remarkable that it's so funny. The essential message of you're doing great is that you're doing great that the modern world is remarkable. That we actually have beautiful lives and that maybe we just need to readjust our expectations of what it is to be happy or successful. Also one heads up if it sounds like. Tom And I recorded this interview inside our houses. That's because we did record this interview inside our houses you might actually at some point. Hear my dog bark at a squirrel. That's kind of what it's going to be moving forward for a little while here on Bullseye so We're doing our best. It's a great conversation in thompsons special. You're doing great much of his material focuses on the little triumphs. In what can otherwise feel like a very mundane life. Tom Captures this perfectly in a bit. About the sense of accomplishment you get when you finally remember to cross a small errand like buying toothpaste off your to do list. You run out of toothpaste. You need more toothpaste. You tell yourself that for week. And a half standing on squeezing and pushing through the whole from the inside just trying to get one strand on your breasts. They don't feel like a monster out in the world you finally stop at. Cvs on the way home you slide that fresh to battle that long box. You feel like you did something don't you? Yeah if you like a winner Tom Papa. Welcome to Bullseye. Thanks for coming on the show. Thanks for having me love your show. Thank you what unusual circumstances for re speaking in so many times I was driving around. La Listening to your show and thinking. I'd love to get in there one day and here we are almost in there. You're like Gosh I. I hope that I hope that one day I'll have to close my doors and make sure that my kids know not to open them and the dog is quiet. And I'm thrilled to have you on the show. One of the things that comes up on this special over and over again is kind of readjusting. Your one's expectations of one's own life man and I don't want a verb. That comes to mind is settling it. It's not settling it's it's almost. It's almost fundamentally optimistic. What you're what you're pitching to us Yeah it's not. It's not settling. It is readjusting your expectations in very realistic way. I think I think we have gotten caught up for a long time in thinking for all these different reasons of thinking that life is supposed to be this nonstop spectacular and all of these things. That are dangled in front of us. We think that those are the things that are going to bring joy and happiness and meaning and they're not the really not and when you just recalibrate and realize what are the important things in your life. You realize hey. This is more realistic. And I'm actually doing pretty great. I think often as an adult now of when I was a kid and and my stepmother would tell us a story about like she. She grew up in Belfast Northern Ireland. Her father died when she was young she had a bunch of brothers and sisters and should tell us a story about fighting with her sister over piece of Bacon because they got a piece of Bacon once a week right. That was their meat further. We can. Yeah Yeah I think. Oh My. Gosh Right. Maybe she was she she was either trying to teach me a lesson or just very resentful of me either way one or the other maybe some of each. Yeah a little bit of a little bit of each. My grandmother grandparents were the same way and they would. They just had this. I don't think they resented what we had. But they just had this really ingrained perspective of life and they had been through so much Through the World Wars and the Great Depression and everything that followed and they just had this other way of looking at the world that was very realistic and very Do you have time for short story? Yeah with public radio. Come nothing but time baby On nine eleven I was at Newark Airport and I was trying. I was on my way to fly to a GIG. Everything happened and before I even boarded the plane and I was living in Manhattan at the time and watched as the towers came down from from Newark Airport. And I couldn't get back into the city to get to my girlfriend who I live with and but my grandmother lived around giants stadium like by the Lincoln Tunnel like twenty minutes outside the city. And I figured well I I'm in a cab after everybody kind of got a grip of we got shouldn't stay at the airport. Take I guess we should get the somewhere I couldn't get into new and I said I'll go to my Nana's house and I drove up to my Nana's house in this cabin I. She opens the door. And there's a woman who had battled all these kind of illnesses lives alone in this little house and she'd been through all the things I list before and she was so excited to see me and I was like I immediately started to cry as soon as I saw him like. Did you see what happened? There was just in shock. And you see someone that you love and you can let your guard down and she said Oh. Yeah but look at how lucky that you get to visit. And she brought me inside and I turned on her little TV. And I'm watching the news and she came in and said okay. I have to go to my bridge group now. Wha- what today's whatever day it is I I have. I play bridge with my Lady Friends House. But you see what's happening. I'll look at you. You're upset here you go. Here's half of my tuna sandwich. Use it here. I'M GONNA go play bridge. I'll be back. We're going to be fine. And she took off and I just carry that with me to this day. They just had a real understanding that life can be so much harder at any moment and we've seen the hardest that they could produce and we're still here and still going along and that just really kind of stuck with me as a dose of reality of. Yeah yeah I mean anything at anytime can happen? And if you're still standing you actually are doing pretty great. You've been a comic now for more than twenty five years Do you find that that attitude is one that you share with your comedy Pierce Sh- that we all carry that perspective. You mean I share it with them verbally. No they that they have that attitude that you just express No no no. They don't Yeah no they don't. There's a I don't know I mean it's hard to say what they Marc. Maron has a new special out now and his called like fun and times and I was listening to it and I love mark and I was listening to it and we touch on a lot of similar subjects were similar ages and we'd touch on similar potential disasters and things that come up in your life and I said to him you we go down the same road and then you get off at this exit which is pretty dark nihilistic and I take the next exit up on the left which is on the sunny side of the street and I yeah and I think that is kind of where I think. Most of the comics are getting off with mark. I mean I think that there is an idea that being a friendly comedian is the easy way to go but I- whereas the other the alternative is is to be an edgy. Truth Teller. Who tells people things they can't handle or whatever? I it's not an opinion I'm ascribing to mark is also a friend of mine but it feels to me like it is pretty easy to get a group of people on board for this thing sucks. Whatever it is that is a relatively easy flag to rally around. Yeah relative to this thing is nice now one hundred percent. I think it's much more difficult and you know most comedy is is lives in the cynicism and negativity which is great. And it's very funny. It's filled with tension and I have to go towards that as well to expose what I want to talk about but I do not believe in living there. I don't believe and carry my life and live my life in a way where I hang out in that area. And when I was touring over the last two and a half years I just started to really get this response from the audience that when I would tell them that they were doing great and that was telling them that you know things are difficult. But we're going to be okay and all these people were coming up to me after. The show is everywhere in the country and literally thanking me and sank. Thank you for saying I'm doing okay because I'm so full with anxiety. I'm so filled with this. And they were just responding to to that and I said well you know this is going to be a little bit of an experiment. I think to to do can continue with my act. Lean in for the first time. Lean and a little bit harder in something that's less cynical and more positive and and it really just started to work. But it's only in looking back. Do I realize that was kind of something. I I kind of pulled something off because that isn't that. Isn't the brochure of how to be a STANDUP COMEDIAN? You worry that you would turn lame now. I was always Kinda lame I was never the guy you know leaning against the back wall smoking a cigarette but because I love stand up and come from New York and was around. You Know David Towel. And Nick Dipaolo and Colin Quinn. You know Dave Chapelle and all these crazy great people I knew I being lame in comedy is being hacky being retread or not being honest being false and I so I had that filter and knew what not to do and in the beginning of my career. I would try and be a little edgy and I would try and be a little. Try Mimic that attitude. But that's not me in the audience houses on knows it's not me and it was only three years in years of trying to create an act with integrity while being completely myself visit end up. Not Being lame. Did you just decide that you are going to be a standup comic at some point I did? I I consciously did in seventh seventh grade. I I was always funny and I just going through six seventh grade. I was going through. It was always funny but I really saw. That is was more than something casual. I was using it to befriend all of the older kids that had stayed home in the summer. And that were around like all my friends. I didn't have a lot of kids my age at the time they would go away for the summer and we stayed in town and to to hang out and be accepted by some of these older kids. I was I remember in like funny is my role kind of thing and then I went through this moment of in what seemed like a week who knows maybe it was longer. I walked into my friend's older brothers room and it was a bunch of kids and they're all older intimidating and they were listening to Steve Martin's. Let's get small album and they were all just cracking up and I was laughing too even though I didn't understand a lot of the jokes and then later on was that my other friend's house and listened to George Carlin's class clown on vinyl and it really struck me at that after seeing the hearing that second album like. Oh these are grownups and this is a job like these. These are just funny people who are now men. Maybe I don't have to go into sales. Wow that was like a huge realization and literally from that point on. I just thought I'm GonNa go that direction but it did. It seem like something that you really could do. Sure that's wild to me. Like I had similar moments when I was that age but I think when I was that age it seemed like they were characters from a story. Not Human beings like the prospect. Yeah no I get what you're saying that makes that's totally makes more sense than what I was thinking. Which was which was oh. They're all wait till they meet me there waiting for me right. John Belushi I when I can finally get a car. I was just thought no. That's I'm I'm I'm going there. And that's that's where. I'm yeah I didn't I didn't think about it being. I mean. We had nobody in show business in our life or anything so I wasn't thinking about. I don't know at that age. You don't think about the odds or what you're up against just like man. I can make this whole class laugh. And that's all they're doing and I. I'm I'm just going to keep doing that. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA get on TV. Too I WANNA DO I. WanNa just yeah. It just seemed it. Just seemed natural. It wasn't until I actually started doing it that I realized this is. This might be tough. Used to say that at that age. You don't think about the odds all I thought about it. That was odds by then I had already adjusted my plans from Major League Baseball Player. To maybe umpire. No no I did like I was in sports I was I was played. I played football my whole life and I remember. I knew there was an end to that. I knew and I was big. And you know I was captain of the football team at the same time I was class clown but I knew this class clown thing. I can really work that other thing. I you know I'm I'm not. There's a limit here with with busy. These guys are going to get much bigger and much faster in they they really have to really want it and I was like no other way you know I. I just thought I could do this forever. You know. Sports seem so hard and limited. This thing just seem like a as long as I can. Just keep making milk. Come out of this kid's nose still in the game and I picked a school that their football program was on suspension. Because of some kerfuffle and my father had wanted me to play division three football and I was like now and you know and I was done in high school I was done and I when I realized they had a theater department but they didn't have football. I was like all right. I'll go there and that was calculated even more with Tom. Papa when we come back from break stick around it's Bullseye for maximum fund dot org and NPR support for this podcast and the following message come from colour. Intelligent toilets with a range of smart features for pampering relaxation in cleanliness. Colour intelligent toilets are designed to provide an elevated experience. Enjoy warm water. Cleansing warm air. 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Us Census is the form that helps us determine how voting districts are regional where to build public schools and hospitals potter. Spend federal money. So why are some people afraid to fill it out? We're getting into all that this week on. Npr's coots which podcast. You're listening to Bullseye. Jesse Thorn I'm talking with Comedian Tom. Papa let's listen to another clip from Tom. Papa new special. You're doing great. A lot of times. Material is about his family life. He has two daughters who are coming up on college age and while the parents might feel overwhelmed at the prospect of an empty nest. Tom Papa has big plans to get the kids out there. GonNa move out about their lives and I got to do all that. That's another weird thing. I just realized I can't believe they're leaving my seventeen year old. She's leaving. It just struck me like wait a minute. Wait a minute. I didn't want any of this. I don't want this house. I don't want this dog. I didn't WanNa live in this town. I did this for you. Now you're just GonNa leave but then I thought wait when they're both gone. What's stopping me? What's stopping me from going back to the life that I had before. How much can a Corolla be on Ebay? Going to get a backpack filled with everything I liked when I was nineteen van. Halen cities little weed. I'M GONNA walk up the driveway and blow the House up behind me like die hard. How old were you when you first tried? Stand up I was I guess. I don't know what the age was. I was it was in nineteen ninety. It was June twelfth. Nineteen ninety three so I was like Late twenties if your whole life had been leading up to that. Yeah and you knew what you wanted. What kept you out of the club until after college Because they wanted me to get a degree and I made sense to me the people at the college. Yeah those people now my parents they really wanted me to get a degree and that made sense and you know they knew. I had designs elsewhere. But they're like you know you gotTa do this and and I was cool. That and And I was spent all my time in the theater I just took classes and was in every single play from freshman till I graduated and I just lived in there and I went to one and went to one interview in New York friend of a friend who lives in an ad agency in this cubicle. And this guy was so unhappy with his job and he's interviewing me and I'm like why would I be trying to get a job here to become this and I remember literally going back to campus driving back from New York to campus and running across the parking lot back to rehearsal and it was like? Oh yeah this is I just I could breathe again and but I but the degree was important so I got the degree and then came out and I tried to get because I was acting so much has tried to get some roles in New York and studied in that and I had the standup thing. But I didn't really you know on this actor thing so but then I realized that you gotta get someone's GonNa hire you to be coming actor and I looked in the village voice and it was like if I just call this number in the New York Comedy Club. Is I bring three friends. Who will buy drinks and sit in the audience? I can go on stage and and that was then once I did that. And that was it than the acting thing. That whole route was like okay. I don't have to. I can just go and get on stage. This was seemed like a funny little secret entrance into into show business. Did it go well? The first time it went well enough it was. Wasn't you know literally? My three friends was probably five friends because they were all excited. I was doing it and On the show it was me and Greg Giraldo and So that Guy Gary who how? He's space on his last name. He works at Kimmel and it was just the three of us. There was no but you know it was like five in the afternoon in the summer. It wasn't it was mostly my friends and that it didn't go great like I thought I had a bunch of material for five minutes and I was done in about thirty seconds but but I told one joke that was actually in the form of a written joke that worked. That was like the big win of the day and then I just kinda screwed around and and was probably not that great but But that I got that one joke out and that it worked was like I was a thrill. Is You know that's different than just making your buddies laugh and and yeah so well enough because that was. I was completely hooked. At what point did you feel like you were a comedian It it's interesting I don't know I mean there's a big thing when you quit your day job and are actually making money at it that but before that you Kinda Kinda felt like I guess it was when I was running around doing shows on a regular basis when I was like starting like in the beginning you you know I started in in ninety three but those first like three or four years or so confusing and you don't really get many spots you go months without even getting on stage and but then when you you kind of turn the corner and they start giving you regular spots I was hosting allot. They were asking they. We had this at a pretty quick trajectory where you knew that like you're doing it every week. You're doing it two or three times. That's when it really started to feel like I was a comedian and do shows with Giraldo in Gaffe again and we would put on these little shows in the bottom of restaurants. And it's like when you're doing it regularly enough that I guess that's probably you know it's not a clear cut on this day but around that time when it's like. Oh we no longer have to wait months between spots. This is a regular thing. That's when it really started to feel like we were at least comedians in our head even though we weren't getting paid yet. Do you feel like when you came to middle aged and had children a you were like entering the Golden Age if you're performing career like yes finally what the audience assumes about me when I walk onstage something? I actually have something to say out. Yeah not so much. The expectations of what of how the audience is looking at me. But I knew clearly that getting around this age was going to be about when I would start becoming valuable. I would have more life experience and know an coming from a place of real knowledge that I could actually speak on a a multitude of issues with some depth and some clarity and that also I would have amassed enough skill to then take those ideas and and put them out there. You know I I was never like the young cool guy that was going to get swept up. Because he just had used just quirky inhibit cool energy myself was very human very all through like a familial lands in. It's you know it's it's human is the way that I always try and describe it. And some of the human condition and I cannot comment on with with With collateral clarity at the age of twenty eight to thirty two you know what I mean. It's just figuring it out. You know this is now I feel like I'm starting to I'm starting to get it. You've worked a lot over the years with Jerry. Seinfeld one of the greatest stand up comics of all time certainly by any measure i. I've never met the man Watches television program. I'm struck by the extent to which he seems to process everything in the entire world into a joke In unusually could chucked. Yeah not just like I think there are a lot of comics who are extraordinarily witty Or have a really funny Persona Legna you know hand Tracy Morgan. The phone book and it was funny to watch them read it. You know what I may. Yeah but I feel like you can look into Jerry. Seinfeld is and see him. You know a chemistry set. Whatever input is going in there is being broken down into its constituent parts so it can be reassembled into humor. Yeah and I wonder what you've learned both from watching him on stage a lot as a you know. You've you've done a lot of road work with him but also from talking to him about doing comedy yeah he he Funny is a real currency to him and it really purely comes down to that like is this thing. Is this thing funniest? Just as his filter his nonstop filter Philip Series. Of course but there is. He has this gear where he knows that that is his job his job is to see it. Translate it and push it back to you in a in a very very funny way but the greatest thing. I got from him. And it's kind of a combination of of him as the joke writer and as the man as the person that he is an how to carry yourself as a comedian the the combination of it all is that this is a real real craft that has real real value and if you put real real hard work into it you will be rewarded for it. And how luckier we that we have the ability to to be in this world Of comedy and treat it with joy and treat it with Gratefulness but also treated as something that has to be worked at Much much harder than most comedians work at it and I really I. That was the biggest the biggest gift I got from him because in the beginning. You're just you're just funny and you do in these shows and you're running around and you're just trying your best and to actually think no. I can like sit down and work. This and get better was was really really a relief as a young comic. That was that was the biggest thing I got from him sometimes when I see him looking for the joke in something on the on the TV. Show I honestly worry about him and I'm like I know he's on television. Shows are supposed to be funny you. This is edited. Yeah well there was. I mean when he talks about doing that. Show it's all it's like there's there is a bit of Ptsd because there was a this has to be there was no like. Oh this is good enough. You could tell you could tell his way. He talks about how they went through it and he's kind of that way with his act. It's never just like Oh that that'll get it. It was any still. Does that with jokes are solid in his act for a long time and he'll be like what if I change this word. What if I just changed? That word could get funnier and he would give it to me. It'd be like you say this but if you just like that it'd be like that doesn't make any difference. But he's watching me from the side of the state so I'll try it and then it would be. The laugh would be bigger damnit. He's right it's yeah he it's. You're not wrong for feeling that there was a lot of self imposed pressure. He put on himself by trying to be that that much of a perfectionist about comedy. There's a bit in your new special. You're doing great where you say. And I'm I'm paraphrasing a little bit because we're on the radio probably wouldn't play it straight up on the radio Doesn't have any swear words or anything but you say imagine being a man and taking the worst part of yourself out of your pants the worst part of your body out of your pants and showing it to someone. Yeah presenting it to a woman like it's an award she'd be happy to receive that. That's your hello your first move and I mean it's it struck me for two reasons. You you kind of segue into a discussion of how you know. Being aware of of what men have done is so important and changing people's the context in which they live their lives and their workplaces is so important But you know it's obviously or maybe not obviously but it seemed to me obviously like directly reminiscent of what Louis. Ck Did to a number of other comics. And you know you're working in the L. A. And your comedy scenes where he was a very very big deal And I wonder if you were worried about how to manage the tone of something like that when that was always going to be part of the context No not at all. I mean there was now I think it would in. My mind went unit weeds. Funny we always have like these little things in our own brain of what? Where are jokes live in our brain like I talked about certain thing? And it's my picture of it sometimes is different from the listeners. Picture of it Totally aware of of his thing but Unfortunately he's not the only one and that that is seemed to be a move by a large number of men that all this time of trying to court ladies throughout my life and try and Of all of all the ways I would think of how to Get some girl to like me. That was never in my mind of of a possibility of you just you just reach in. Tada and And as far back as hearing politicians that would do that move and and comedians and producers and it just seems to me like such a almost like it was like a surprise like as being part of as you know like being a guy. You still surprise when you hear that guys were doing that. It's like wait. What so. It's so clearly wrong and it's so clearly a out of the realm of thinking that now I mean what could possibly make me feel like not talking about that because in somewhere near our world did that too well. It doesn't make it any less wrong. You can't make you can't you? Can't be on that side of the argument and be like dude. That's not cool and get me to say say you're right it's like no I I have daughters and sisters and I work with a lot of women and I think we're all in agreement that that move by whoever you are creepy and wrong. So yeah I I never give a second thought. I found it kind of comforting to have a bit where the premise I think was an. I'm speaking for you here so correct me if I'm wrong but like the premises. Both that is a horrible thing to do. And it's horrible. That people are doing that people do that and also that it's great that something is changing about people doing that that the people's you know people's lives in workplaces are improving because we're saying out loud that that's that's horrible. Yeah Yeah you know. I've got kids that are about to go out into the world and they've got to go meet all these dudes in their lifetime. And you know it's enough to navigate guys in general and to to think that at least at work this won't happen anymore is like Oh God. What a relief you know. I can't believe it took this long but yeah thank God. You know that everybody you know once you mix when you mix sexuality in. It's a very it's very muddied and and difficult place to navigate but at least they were writing a real solid rulebook for how you work at how we treat each other while we are working that is at least a at least some progress sake and then you can decide whether or not you go to happy hour and meet this harried hairy jerk doing shots afterwards but at least in the workplace we've got that sewn up and everyone's on the same page. Thank God Tom Papa. I I loved your special I. I really enjoyed it both before. And after the cataclysms taking place in the world and I really appreciate you taking the time to be on polls I thank you very much. I appreciate it good talk. I apologize for my dog barking in the background. I think he never apologized for that. Come on there is a squirrel out yet. I think he's you get used to that. Tom Papa you can watch his terrific new special on Netflix. It's called your doing great. Tom Is also the host of the show. What a joke with Papa and fortune on Sirius Xm's net flicks channel which airs Monday through Thursdays. Tom also writes an appears on the public radio. Show live from here in May. Tom will release his second book from Saint Martin's press. You're doing great and other reasons to stay alive. That's the end of another episode of Bullseye. Bullseye is currently produced out of the homes of me and the staff of maximum fun in and around Los Angeles California now. Normally we would give you an update on what's happening outside our office Macarthur Park but instead here at my House. 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Tom Papa - I'm Going to Disney World

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Tom Papa - I'm Going to Disney World

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Who probably think you're the dumbest person in the world Oh my God. It's so the the worst is when I ask a question and it's all amplified now because we're just around each other all the time but when you say something and they don't even correct you they just look at you like really. I'm just all yourself with that rope. Dad God I pride myself like scrambling to like to get credibility back. It's like you know like desire Is Is there Is there more almond milk in here? No I'm just saying because there wasn't any yesterday there it makes perfectly logical sense would ask that question. Yeah no colder here. Just like defense attorneys like four degrees and your kitchen match right in your home. It's not about my intelligence as much as just A. This is how I know what's going on like. They're not wrong like they. They're noticing when I'm slipping. I'm using them to kind of put myself in check and I. I don't wear a lot of shorts. I don't wear shorts that often. I'm always in jeans and yesterday was so hot in La. That I came up insurance in these. What I thought from my college days was cool. Yeah sure oh cool cargo shorts strap since and I came up in. My daughter's just looked at him. It was like So we're wearing those Dan Schwartz now. All Guide out. I swear to God. I went right back downstairs. Roll them up. Put them in the garbage Dan. That's just crazy high school. Well you have got a new book out. We're GONNA talk about it at the top of this next segment but I we are so happy that you're here and let's just dive into the stupidity because we need to make sense of it Right all right Dan. We gotta really ready. Yes this sent in by Dasche car the Great At dos car are actually says daas car the great at kind of half marathon training thanksgiving super. We appreciate it Just the headline alone is enough on guys because it is this sword wielding Medieval Knight. Vigilante takes on street gang. Aw My God yeah words that it'll never be used to describe me worte Tom. Baba's throwing his cargo shorts from college doesn't have swords around his house or or you would never take on a gang of people Tom. Oh God no way no way that. Is that like that level? There was one time when I played Grand theft auto for so many hours in a row that when I got my car driving around I thought I was in grand theft on assisted conception real guy. Yeah that's a guy that's been in some realm of fantasy way too long way too long at the run fair and now he's bringing it to the street. He thinks he can apply it in real life. They love they. Love me over there. A British medieval enthusiasts took the law into his own hands after being harassed by Yolk local youths or utes. If you love my by grabbing some medieval weaponry and taking them on a equipped with a sword and an axe so he's got Houston his neighborhood that harassment him for probably wearing cargo. Shorts isn't this the plot to Grande Torino? Yes this is the Medieval Times version of grant to me and I've never really wielded a sword. A sword and an axe doesn't that feel like too much like what is your dominant hit. And that's a hat on a hat. I who what gets the AX? What hand gets you dominant? Hand would be the source or cause acts is just back and forth motion axes. My left shoulders hurt. You got a picture than having like. They're all harassing he. One Minute yeah goes inside and comes back. If you were with your friends in some dude came out with this you would just fall out. Lags actually look. How long has these youths been bothering him? That it finally got to the point because it's either the first time or the eighty fifth time right. You know what I mean. No they can outrun this guy right. Yeah there's no chance of catching them. So he's GonNa be wildly swinging these things in the. How many times did he say? I'M GONNA get Medieval on your ass. Three times as he was putting everything on with a list. Worst Allan Powell A. L. U. N. I haven't seen that British ever heard Allen's spelled Ale. Un Alma Powell a father of four own the medieval armor and weapons for dressing up in battle reconstructions as and was reported. Maybe he's not taking it out on these kids with his kids are giving to him right. He's a father of four. He had the almond milk discussion with his kids. And was like GonNa tell me what I can and can't do so. How were they harassing him? In his daily life and this isn't there a statement like like it on twitter where like if someone system that's offend you and you're like hold my beer. Yes hold my almond milk. Whole my almond milk. I'm going to go fight this. Yes he has all this stuff for dressing up in battle reconstructions and was reported by the Sun. Newspaper to have used a fourteenth century soared to threaten a man. A COURT HAS HEARD IN MR Alan A. L. You Powell claimed to have been persecuted for years by antisocial including drugs. Smoking outside of his home and rubbish being pushed through his letterbox. So they're messing with they're small. Chechen his letter by starting to feel for Allah. You should've taken the sort out. What took you so long guys into rent fares I would. I would think you would spell. His Name A. L. O. N. Dot. The jury were told that Allan Powell who participates with the weapons for battle reenactments pulled the three foot blade and an axe from the boot of his car. After brandishing a knuckleduster. I do not know what I'm just on Buddha a car I know that's his trunk. So sure knuckleduster. Maybe brass knuckles would be knuckled brass knuckles. I'M GONNA look it up but also let's just the fact that he keeps these weapons in his car. Yeah Yeah I'm just picturing him going to these reenactment things and like going out to his car with his equipment and loading it looks in their. It's like seeing a party clown on his way to worse. Yes yes or to me. It's like you know I keep my golf clubs in the back of my car. In case like all of a sudden the day clears out. And someone's like hey play some golf and I'm like yeah. I should have in the car in case I'm out and I that's if someone calls me last minute and they're like hey there's a ren faire breaking out. Yeah he ready. There's a pickup or unfair happening anywhere going on M. I. Heady ready yes. I am three looked up. Knuckleduster is the nicest way to say brass knuckles okay. We he was accused of taking a fighting stance then smashing through a car window with the sword as a group of youths fled in terror. They don't even save their car or his own car or just a car. That happened to be there. You gotTA swing heart. That's a real weapon if you go through a car window but it isn't that jeff trick like I need you to see how real this is so he just starts like hitting things with. The accident soared to show them that. He's gone full. Michael Keaton Batman. Let's get nuts. Get ready to watch what I do in this mail but through a car like win that glass shatters through a car with like you know. This dude is your real. Yeah you're a hundred percent. But then they arrest him. I don't understand so. He never complained to a thorn trash through his mail slot. They're smoking on his lawn. Which is trespassing by the way Ron? Yeah if you picture. And so he has kids of his own right so kids are watching him. Get abused by other children. Yes you got time for this guy. I'm all for it if he didn't hurt. I mean he did hurt. Someone's property is going to have to pay for that car but still if this story doesn't end with. He chopped one of their heads off. I'm going to be very disciplined right. Processes British falling down the prosecutor said of Allen. He was clearly angry instead of calling police. He went outside and put himself in danger by arming himself. With A KNUCKLEDUSTER. I mean he wanted. Knuckleduster does sound like the cutest way to put on brass or area specific sexual maneuver. I put on the KNUCKLEDUSTER. And that's I'm your mother. You know me honey. I love a good knuckleduster. Come on it's my birthday your mother and I used to knuckle does all the time back when we twice in one night once. Sorry I love your mother after show. He's a knockout. After showing the KNUCKLEDUSTER to the crowd of Youths Alan. Wow was then said to have grabbed Camille Ahmed around the throat. Even though third been no threats towards him so he went for whoever was close he went for the throat. Boy He just went for whatever again as a father of kids. I'm going to assume that three out of the four. Those kids were daughters. Okay I have a picture here of Alan POW in his full regalia. You guys have and show it to Tom. Tom This guy. This guy starts getting into the trunk of his car. He's got a lot of gear. Oh man scary. He's a full night. Yes he's full. Game of thrones. Oh Man Delorean does kind of like. How many times is he like onto the supermarket? Just dress like back now. He has to because of covert actually would be smart. That actually would be having scattered the crowd. Alan then went to his car and got his sword and axe. So this was after got some scattered the crowd and said. I need to scatter the crowd. Some more right and like many people who participate in rent fairs. They don't know when to stop the fourth. What do you want to hear about the name? Morning showed up now. Only fourth wall is the one around your heart so he gets his car grab sort of acts about which he told police that is when he saw red he went full. I loved it out red after he dealt with it initially like seeing red caused you to want to put your hands on some kids throat but then like maybe comes out with the dusters and they don't listen so they pee on his house or something we ran. They ran a loved him going to his car and getting his weapons caused him to see red. This is where they say. Here this is where Allan Powell lost the plot and he told Mr Ahmed and another complaint that he was going to kill them. That's what these kids have been messing with this sum bitch for who knows and they are the ones who went to the cops like they're really took it too far man. We were just having fun just on garbage in your mail slot. Nice sucks to the accusers. Told the court that when they saw the weapons they left as quickly as possible. We're angels. The court was concerned with the immediate incident but made enquiries inquiries as into why exactly Powell own the sword to which he said he was a medieval sports enthusiasts. Which is the most professional way to say that? You're into blades. A Blade Guy. I'M A BLADE GUY. Murder murder enthusiasts. Goner I'm a Blade Guy. Living Life on the edge style and said he said he's a medieval sports enthusiast who fought at castles using blunt. Weapons including his replica. Fourteenth Century Blade by the way fought and castles probably entails. He did it and a lot of people there. Were like. Hey man you can't do that. He fight at White Castle right there. Believe at the end there are plenty of videos fighting white. Cama White Castle fight reenactor this battle that happened in the bulletproof glass in Queens but there is something interesting about the fact that Ren Fairs in England are probably closer to they probably look sorority on point. And also you look at your in a probably a place. That hasn't changed in five six hundred years not having an field in Oklahoma. You're probably right castle where you can see a billboard for like the good way over the back actually get your hands on a moat says. Mr Powell was permitted own the sword because exemptions were made in two thousand eight. That's when they banned long swords People only sorts but something Florida should look into two thousand eight thousand eight. That was that was a really got out of hand back. Thank God but the idea that you the idea that you can tell people that. You were grandfathered in with a sword right. That's another story. No one other story once a year and that is the reason why a lot of friendships ended with this guy for sure they made. They were exemptions were made in two thousand eight laws for quote swords. Which were were used for? Reenactments are Antique. Weapons kept on display by collectors. Well Mr Powell didn't own a Samurai Sword. I Dunno where that comes in. He did carry a sword in public and that is where he broke the law and it was a similar incident that span out of Control and twenty two thousand to that brought these new laws so in a recent sword incident. Easter Powell claimed he had represented Wales in the Sports World Cup and that one man had threatened his dad who recently had a stroke. So that's what I pushed him over the at one of these kids his dad who had recently had a stroke so red is our Adnan addiction with building. The defense lawyer said the Allens Powell held the weapons and downward position and did not intend to use them. Let me say this. This is like a checkoff gun. You've got US court. You'RE GONNA use if you have a gun right. When the ruling was declared the judge cleared Mr Paul. If you have a sword expected to go through a car window I love the pointing. Down is safe pointing up right because of that defense. Though the ruling was declared the judge said that he cleared Mr Powell of assault but found him guilty of possessing offensive weapons. I will ask my three friends who can hear me right now. How old do you believe Allan Powell is a L. U. N? Here's what we got four kids. She lives kids. He's GonNa put him. I'M GONNA put them at thirty eight thirty eight years okay. Jay Guess Forty. Six forty. Six guys are three fifty three. I think so I mean I just feel like his kids are teenagers. Don't Love Him Okay. They hate him. He's getting so much shit from life was like take you bring that sort in this house. Go put it in your in your trunk. I don't want to stay zome. I said these guys finally did one day. They like one. Apple Corps went through his mail. Slot yes. I don't know though a guy. I don't know a long time a long time to wait to use. That also depends on. How old the kids are they say. Father of four. He could have four little rolled. Kids who are like Dad. Okay Ready Allan Powell. We'll end for store in. This is thirty one years old Papa. You're that is there you go so you know. I guess getting out there on the fields and reenacting a young guy so angry. Thirty one with four kids. Why why? Why do you think so Tom? Because he's he's so thirty one so he's got about ten years in the game of parental marital life and he thought his life was going to be that of a warrior yet. Dragons going out and ten years one decade of realizing. It's not gonNA happen. It's just all the first woman he banged. That's what happened in that problem. There you go. You Know Life Experiences. He right had exactly just curb. Louis helped him out your old bit. If you're married. Get a girlfriend's girlfriend girlfriend Tom. Botha's bit all right. We come back on the other side of the break when you hear about Tom. Papas new book. I'm so excited to read it This is dumb people town. Don't go anywhere around on people guys ran a J and Dan here To Talk to you about a great product. That helps you sleep. I don't know have you had trouble sleeping recently. Gone in and out of waves. Yeah we'll too good for a couple of days and then have a few. Aren't I think it's hard because people aren't on a schedule right or you get anxiety late at night? If you know. That's where the good night show comes in or even your guys podcast but sometimes you need a little bit extra high. 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We talk about We try to take your mind off the pandemic. That's we're trying to do everyday Thirty minutes we just try to say. Hey we're not gonNA talk about planning curves we're not gonNA talk about you know death stock market going down. We're going to try and talk about Grimes and Elon Musk's new baby their new baby. Then a dash twelve eighty x a dash a dash twelve which was inspired by their favourite aircraft. Right so we'll get into that for a little bit. That's what we do and I just started a youtube page. Scarborough country Subscribe to that. Get on that It helps us and it's really cold. We put a bunch of old cheap seats up there which is so much fun Tom Pop our guest. And he's one of our favorite comics out. There a brilliant writer and you have a new book. Please tell these people about it because people ask us all the time. Hey I need new material during this in it drops today. The book is available to day when this is dropping so tell us yeah very exciting. It's my second book it's called you're doing great and other reasons to stay alive and it was written before all of the The pandemic I but But it was about looking at your life and realizing that you actually doing great no matter where you are in your life with expectation of what life is supposed to be right and it's really just an added space the joy of the simple things so I just in a very comedic way. Part memoir part just Just comedy just kind of tackle all the elements of our life and trying to give a little perspective. I think that life needs a little perspective and I didn't realize how relevant it is now. Unbelievable this to read right now when you don't want to. All the most people are writing right now but won't come out for another year years out right now and it's relevant right now. Yeah it's pretty crazy. There was one part in the book in one of the essays. I actually talk about You know you guys traveling around as comedian. Yeah I talk about a coughing epidemic. Yom like is it me or is everybody on the flight coffee. Yes all this and then you know two months later. Bluey but yeah but I really do I kind of. I'm very optimistic and I try and be a little less cynical in my comedy in my life in this book is just kind of an extension of that and just give yourself a break in realize EIB is hardest. Things are which is a perspective. I got from my grandparents who went through the depression through World War Two and all the rest of it and they never stopped believing life and in making other people. Happy and So I just kind of went in that direction. Where were you where your grandparents upper live when you were? They were in Clifton New Jersey which is Kinda near giant stadium so east coast and they were they immigrants. Who were they. Yes came over. They were Italian and they came over Like a one was before the war was after. That's amazing yeah and you know they have nothing. They have nothing and they had. They had the huge families. And you know a lot of heartache and a lot of really crazy things that happened in the in the culture like no money and living like in one little apartment with eight brothers and sisters and they had every reason to complain and to that life was something that was was taking the stuffing out of them and they. They almost felt the opposite. That if you were to if you did not appreciate every single day that you're alive. It was an insult it was more than that. It was a sin. Yeah it was not to be tolerated and you should not only. Should you be grateful for what you have? You should be spreading that with your your brothers and sisters in your parents and your neighbors and it was their duty to live a good life. It's great it's did they ever get to see you? Do Stand up. Were they alive when you did that? One yeah they did. They got really a big kick out of it. I think a one grandmother. I once did this job. It was in the beginning. When you don't know what you're doing right. I was a little dirty. Yeah and I and I looked over. She was at a club over and she looked at me and shook her to say she's probably holding her purse. You'RE NOT GONNA do that. But saddest exactly. Oh my God. That's what you're doing with this book and with your comedy what a wonderful what a wonderful tribute to what they said. Which is what is the thing you can do. That can really make people appreciate life and you can make them laugh. And that's what it is the title of the book so people get it right now from this thing is you're doing great and other reasons to stay alive. Okay in the time of the pandemic Tom Papa. You're doing great and other reasons to stay alive. This is it. I want you to pick that book up now and Let's go see yeah. I'm sorry I'm GonNa put one more quick plug in return because today is also the day that my new podcast. Tom Pop breaking bread with Tom. Papa Great Oh hell yeah where because I you know before all these trendy sour dough makers got your the game with a court. I've been doing it for years. Yes and so I wanted. I wanted to new podcast to just be a celebration. You sit down break bread with people you feed them enjoy wine and all this kind of stuff and I started with Tom. Saga and Alonzo Boden. And I'm telling you it's so great you guys have to do it. Which is well if you if you just ask somebody if you ask somebody tell me about. Who Fed you and you were a child gone. Sit Back and just have this great time. Thank visceral it's so like it is you know it's time and place like the AFI. Add a smell can like immediately back to your eight years old. And your grandma your. It's so good they they just did a big thing on. Cbs Sunday morning this past week. I love that show and it was all about like what people are eating now and why they're eating like what's selling a lot more people trying to reconnect to the stories that I'm sure gonNA come out of breaking bad. Yeah Papa Yell at you realize is like people were making food in our era. It was like a foodie thing. And they're getting trendy to like. I'm GonNa make the back then. It was just. That's how you feed your family. Take out there was no. He has cranked stuff out all the time. Yeah amazing in the BREAD ASPECT OF IT. Too is soak. My wife has been making in making sour dough and giving out part of the starter to other friends to get them so. It's like a coaching tree. Now your starter sitting over here and then they get a little bit here and then it's just such a cool thing so I appreciate cool breaking Tom Papa. And again the book. Please pick that up now. Should we jump in another starts to do it okay in this time of pandemic and everything Feeling out of sorts. This is probably the story I've been sent the most okay. I mean it just clogged up. My twitter twitter. Mentions I thank everybody for it because it is perfect for dumb people town. I'm GonNa read you. The headline Mankato camping. On Disney's Discovery Island says it was tropical paradise as essentially invite Adam Poulton at Polskie P. O. U. L. SDS's seventy five who is ever referred to Disney as a tropical paradise. No it is a hell on earth go to Disneyworld began man. I want to go to the new star wars experience though the right here as yeah and the Avatar won the Avatar ride is one of the greatest rides I've ever been on so there's this you can get on your an APP on your phone like the wait times at what they are so like. If you have the Disney app you can just anywhere. You are be like what are the. What's the wait time for the Avatar and I looked at it? We looked at it one time I. They're like thirteen hours. Mike there is no way. I'm waiting hours and forty five minutes. The last time I went but the first time we had We were staying on property so I had like in Florida. Yeah so fast. Whoa you get like magic hours. And so there's a part where only if you're saying property. Are you allowed to still be in the park so it was only like an hour wait? She's one of the coolest rides I've ever been on. It's like if you like Soren or if you know what that is soaring California or store in the world. It's like personal sore and you're riding one of those benches and Avatar and it's insane but this was goal to. Yeah it's all amazing. All the stuff is great. If if if it wasn't for all those other people like this giant. You don't have to worry about that. If you decide to go live in Disneyworld right now like this guy did an idiot. Orange the Orange County Florida. A man is facing trespassing. Charges after security found him camping on Walt Disney world's discovery island according to the Orange County sheriff's. Try like I like Tom. Tom Hanks and castaway our friends with a volleyball. It's not easy to get there. I know where this is. He's near the magic kingdom. It's on the same Lake area where the Grand Floridian. I think it's calling and that alligator he'll kill that little kid home so I don't know how you got out to the island. He had swim through alligator infested waters to get out there. Is it worth the end? He's camping does he have his own his on discovery. You knew what they discovered. He's a dummy deputies. Say they were called to forty three zero one north world drive. I love that they give the address for Disneyworld. Nobody's ever liked pulled over halfway like outside of Rajon shop with their family and the station wagon being like Kim told me how to get to forty three o one north. I need the forty three hundred block of world away. A Main Street visits happy shot. It's be a barbershop quartet on last crying. Four year old. Ob quite a few of those once you get past them. Y- said they were called to Walt Disneyworld. After Richard McGuire was spotted on the Disney owned property. Which is currently closed to the public dickey MCGUIRE? How is he spotted? They must have people just maintenance people still they probably have every probably sweeping through at this point. You keep a skeleton crew so to speak. Orange County deputy searched Maguire on foot by helicopter and by boat before finally making contacts. That's out here. No Orange or Florida. Okay Yeah Yeah. It always gets confused before finally making contact with. That's a lot of overkill for one. If by land two if I don't have tranquilizer darts that you can just fire from plane. Just take him out. Were if no one's there just like dropped napalm on the whole park or just like Captain Hook handle it. Got a hook in the eye. This guy when deputies told McGuire they had been using a loudspeaker to address him which means I guess they were like through the park. Being like Sir Amana on Discovery Island which I hope he get some other guy. They're not telling me like you sometimes here in analogy like did they just say sklar. Are they taking me when I hope to is the preamble to all this? Is Him being a fight with some like off again lover? Dan where you go. What are you GONNA do? He said Oh. I got a plan. I'm going to Disneyworld Disneyland to win the Super Bowl and I get to say that it's gone at Disney. Is The white trash version of a super bowl champion? Where are you going to go after this legal separation? I'm going to Disney world? When deputies told McGuire they've been using a loudspeaker to address him. He said he didn't hear them because he was sleeping inside one of the buildings on the island which he referred to as a tropical paradise. How Tropical Paradise has buildings building? That's one of the greatest things about tropical paradises all of their buildings all those mandates being inside of the Tiki hut with all those birds. What floor of the TIKI building? Where you just WANNA know like I? Okay well here we go. According to a restaurant it says it here acquire told deputies. He was not aware that the property was off limits. What world are you living on? It was all boarded up and it said no trespass fences in a bar when you were climbing the fence right. I was just unaware of a simple climbing of offend dive over barbed wire know there was no one there to sell you a balloon inside of another balloon. You thought that this place was open so I never understand the people who get roped into by the Mickey balloon inside the larger balloons front door was open and he just wandered in life. There is no world in which you're like. I'm you are walking in saying I got in. I snuck it if you're paying attention to the news for one second. You're assuming it's closed National Lampoon's vacation parks close. Mussa frontier told you. I just watched that with my eleven year. Old Son really he loved. I can't break lodge skating very bad infection. Shoot ending the National Lampoon's vacation. That's why Anthony Alcohol's like so much tall they had to go back and reshoot that whole thing with candy Okay Discovery Island was a zeal zoological attraction before Disney's animal kingdom so it must be where they had all the analysts for they opened up which also is like one of the coolest parts that have been there. It's been closed since nineteen ninety nine. He's in building. That's been closed since one thousand nine hundred nine on an island yes to me. That is the most terrifying thing in the world. We go ahead Tom Terrifying because all the animals are talking. Yes that's haunted. It is haunted by the ghosts of God. If heard anything like a rustling of anything I'd be like I'm GonNa die. This is how I house right. All of Disney's Orlando area. Theme Parks are also currently closed. I loved it in Orlando in Florida. That pro wrestling is deemed more essential to their economy than the fact that half their state is built off the money from theme parks now. I'm not saying that. They should open theme parks. I understand why they can't no but but they're more essential to their economy than professional writing. Win It's been closed closing ninety nine. This made me like like Disneyworld has an entire island that they used to have all these attractions on that they now just don't even they haven't used in over twenty years and I remembered unemployed told me when I was there the last time at Disneyworld they have only used all those parts all. They've only used a third of the property that Walt Disney bought. That's how much land is unreal. Main to just waiting for new movie franchises to come to they. Can I remember? I remember going to Disneyworld before Epcot. I remember prep. God must have gone there when you were a kid like. Yeah we went there. I think the first time I went was when Epcot Open Yep so we went pre epcot. Remember what caught open. It was the biggest thing the best thing the best time ever Wendy Nice we went for. Espn the weekend. This is back when we were doing. The WHO fifteen years ago. We're doing cheese. And they gave us a personal guide which walked us to the front of every single line. That's because we were doing shows for Espn live shows of cheap seats and whatnot. Are and I mean it was amazing and we stayed in the Animal Park. So you'd go you was this. This was in two thousand and six maybe animal kingdom at just just open and Sola staying in the hotel and you'd lookout Tomase your hotel and there's like giraffe there. Durant is unreal. It's gorgeous probably had to go through that stuff because that's a whole different. Yeah he's over he's over by magic. All you find this place is beyond gravy and no but this is what this guy at night and he thought to himself. I`Ma go into this crazy like place and I'm GonNa live off the land. I'm going to move off the fake land in the faking. Their that is a great question. It says here that he had been camping there since Monday. Or Tuesday and doesn't give us any other point of reference. This came out on a date right here. That says here that this came out looking candidates. Say Oh this came on the on Monday the first so I may Friday was a Friday. So He'd been there about four days four or five days days now. I wonder where you go. Originally that he was like you know what this doesn't feel like tropical Paradise Harry Potter Universal Hogwarts here and. It's not feeling very trout but I understand. Why all the scrape from Green Guts? I don't want to stay then. He goes down to the Bahamas. He's like this isn't really a tropical paradise. Let me get up get up and Discovery Island and see how that is He he had planned on staying there for about a week. Don't let us ruin your plans. Sir He was arrested and charged with trespassing and on posted property and was also ordered not to return to any additional Walt disneyworld properties. Let this show or just an from the time of you ever trespassed anywhere in your life as a kid or whatever. Gone somewhere where you shouldn't have gone. Yeah Yeah Yeah but we used to break into like the pool like the the town pool. Yeah at night when we were kids. And it's there's a feeling okay so you only probably jump one fence or whatever. It was under the fence under the fence. There is a feeling though like the second as your body is going onto that fence. You're like I'm doing something wrong. But it's so exciting riding but whatever crazy ass security Disney has. It can't be just one. You're not going under a local pool over so much stuff. Yeah Tom you just blew my mind because we have a little swimming area called Spring Lake. But it's a it's next spring like the call it spring like it's like the pool the pool. Yeah he paid like a dollar a. I didn't go there and it never crossed. My mind wants to school to break into that. Swimming is now we we? We used to we call pool hopping where you would make a list of all the kids who had pools at their houses and we would run and jump in their pool and maybe throw some of their pool furniture into it and run outside. This whole area never never going into Spring Lake because it's like it was the next summer I get to go home as a grown man. I might as you Dan. You have to get arrested. We used to break into the not break in but we would sneak into the football field and ring the victory bell. Which was the football team would ring after a game and I mean it was so loud and all these house so we we went to when we were in. I'm sure you've done this club. Tom The In Bloom attended Indiana the comedy attic. Have you ever done that now? You have you would love it. It's a wonderful salary and I hope it survives. I really diversity of Indiana's. Iu is such a great school. And of course we're huge of the movie breaking away and they have the quarries where they were swimming at no way for Dreyer and So we were like wintertime. We're like we gotta go see the core. Let's go try and find the corey where they shot this thing and recording this for this scars and stripes going around doing comedy all over the country and we're recording US walking out there with our Buddy Scott and we start walking out there and it's like Nokia here. The terror in are you hear us because that says no trespassing and we're like do this. We keep walking in and says seriously no trespassing and we keep walking. We keep going through this. Then it's like no trespassing some trucks working we're like we're gonNA get shot increasingly worse and we're like the further we go into this. The more we can't get out of it takes person conscience to think they can camp on this Guy Damn Island We'll get out of here on this. How old do you guys think? Richard McGuire the man who found his tropical paradise dickey MC Janet's plan to live there for about a week got about four or five days willing to admit that he thought he was going to probably fall in love with and marry a mermaid who lived there. That'd be part of the plan. All Right Tom. Do you think This dude is this students. Forty one okay. Which by the way sound old but to you me and Jason. That's using eight years younger than got his whole life. He's he's got some skills right he's I think he's obviously delusion rain is I'm GONNA say thirty seven thirty seven. I think he's twenty eight twenty eight years old okay. One of you is one year. Aw Fun one of US only one year off because we will get out of here before we had the third story. Close out the second story with this. Richard McGuire little dicky MIC. Asked me tried to live in? Walt Disneyworld found. His paradise was there for almost a whole week. Is Forty two years old stuff point very good assessment of who? This dude was all right. Give us a little taste. Work Ready here everyone while it is a nightmare for parents okay repairs. We'll all know the top here. We've got a short story on the other side of this break. So stay with US more on. A my partner. Adamant I tape our podcast. Nobody listens to Paula. Poundstone in a little studio where we can only fit one instrument for a house band although we once fit in a Yak Dayak. It's a comedy advice. Show experts talk about things we all need to know. We had a mortician. Explain a better way to die. Urban Chicken farmer told us how to raise poultry in your backyard casting agent coach me on how to get the RAW. A constitutional expert explained the bill of Rights. Maybe we can get the White House to listen to that episode. Also an astronaut told us how to astronaut we have hand puppets for its trump and vocabulary. Words like nugatory find out what nugatory means listen to nobody listens to Paula. Poundstone guys welcome back to dumb people town. Dan Take US home all right here. We go this. One has also been sent to me a lot because it is perfect for dump people town. I will read you. The headline that was sent in by big fan at f. y f. y you rock. Thanks so much big Fan. Five year old boy driving parents car to head to California. We talked about this on our daily but. Jeez it's okay. Let's do it because I want to hear what What Tom has said Weber County? Utah according to troopers with the UTAH. Highway Patrol's Weeber Weaver. Weaver says it's we. We were stay a five year. Old Boy was pulled over driving his parents car on the freeway on Monday. Have you teach your kids how to drive yet any of your kids? Yeah Yeah I was. How's that process gone? She's good now but it's it's scary beginnings and that and she was age appropriate. You Clean Right. She did when she was. But if you give it to them when they're five and you aren't there to worry about it. There's out of sight out of out of anxiety. Autism five. Hi How to do it. How does a five year old understand how to start a car and drive it? You can't how does he reach the peddles back up and go for? I don't understand the panels he got onto the HP set a trooper in Weaver County initiated a traffic stop. What he thought was an impaired driver. It was an unprepared driver out. It was a five year old child. Ups said he told Jan. I'm serious. How do you think this kid was driving this car? How do you think he could is either like a five foot orders inch kid doing it? Again grandma shrunken great. You're so you're not even standing. Maybe push the seat back through the wheel looking through the power seat you can get those really close and I mean there are like all little men and women like still try. There's all these old people here's the other thing. A lot of people have said that there is a big negative and a big positive to screen time in our life. The first is is it so many kids are writing in cars on their having screen time that they are not paying attention to how their parents drive so when they go to learn any sort of like curve. They already started to climb that we all had. Because you just you can do anything other than sit there and watch your drive. They don't have any of that so they're not all kids. Don't want your daughter Uber. They're like oh we'll just take an uber to the party. Yeah I know I know but yet being on your phone all the time and manipulate the hand eye coordination positive side of it. They said play. Those games have a very vance understanding of how to drive if five Dan. This kids five my. I can't even get my six year old to take her plate to the sink but added driving high. What we've heard stories of people who have landed planes because they were they were obsessed with like simulators and they knew what to do if a kid is weighing like there are kids. Who Understand stickshift. Just by playing racing games. Yeah that's true. There might have been some sort of knowledge there that would put in twelve five case by got pulled over but he also wrote a like a like a tractor stood up yet to Castellano. Poet pulled over so he knew to pull over him. That credit got on the freeway and the full over. He unless the cops like forced the car. Maybe I don't know but that's just assuming that he was going quickly. Yes I think-i we probably weaving a little bit for sure. Said he thought he was. Unimpaired driver troopers. He told troopers that he left home after an argument with his mom in which he told she told him she would not buy him a Lamborghini. Yeah well that's right. You don't get a Lamborghini to take the car and go to California and get one himself first of all I. This is five years old where you think this is pretty great. Only in California lamborghinis earn in California. Hey Tommy there's a Lamborghini dealership a mile from your house. You Stupid Heart City Baby Jay Leno. Any another store from this. It turns out that after the argument he was being watched by his older sister older cousin. She decided to take a nap and while she was asleep he took the car Ke. She said she will never leave the keys out again. She's Never GonNa Babysit that kid. I guess this kid in a cage at the border. He drove from miles from his home before being. How many miles doesn't say oh my God but he did have money with him to buy a Lamborghini. Hope it was a good nap but how we're putting money. I feel like this kid had a wallet with money in a condom in it. It was like looking guy. He's got a roth. Ira got a lot of stuff area advant. He's the Doogie Howser of poor car by. It's okay if you guys already know you can recruit recused yourself. This is Justin. But how much money do you think he had in his wallet? What what Tom has say how? Much money two dollars two dollars. Okay now play a long time wherever you are with US. Play in place of the sklar because this five year old boy to buy a Lamborghini after a fight with his mom and they say you make rash decisions when you're upset it was either this or driving that or cut his hair and did banks but he was gonna do something drive angry if I don't go to bed angry Lamborghini in his wallet on his way to California in the car that he stole. He had three dollars Tom. Papa voice working on it alternated and Utah to California by the way. This kid couldn't get a Lamborghini dro if he got onto the highway which means he had burge onto a highway. He shows Lamborghini dealership. Can't handle his way into a three dollar CECCHINI and the guys like look. These are two hundred seventy five thousand dollar cars. I can't play kids three dollars now and he never sits down. The kids stands up and literally kid produces a wall. It might have a wallet also is and then the guy looks to your manager and the guy goes. Let me see what I can do. I am sixty five years to pay it off three dollars down three dollars now and I'll pay it. I'm those are stories friends. Those are unbelievable stories on the name of the Book Warmer Times. They can go out and get it. You're doing great and other reasons to stay alive. God we need it more than ever in your pod that is out today and your podcast breaking bread with Tom. Papa subscribed to that. We're going to do it when we can all get back together again. We're going to force you to have us on. Oh please I can't wait double town. You're so smart and you're so great and you understand it so well. I have a good one top. Thank you I love you all love you shit. We gotta get back to work. Dum Dum Dum. Dum Dum dog around starving podcast network.

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Side Stories: Day of Reckoning

Last Podcast on the Left

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Side Stories: Day of Reckoning

"The Mayor Willy Wizard Jake. And it's you're Bristling Bruiser Holden McNealy and we are so excited to announce paid seven and wizard and the bruiser live in Los Angeles California California Wednesday December Eleventh Twenty nine thousand nine at the region theater. Tickets are only twenty two dollar. Where can they get them? Jake type in your little web bar go to last podcast network dot com slash p seven live. That's last podcast network dot com slash p seven live. We'll see you there folks sir else. I'll cry. Yeah he'll cry. There's no place to escape tunes. WHO's the lost cast on the left side stories? Cannibalism started and Oh Yeah Oh man. Undersea decide stretches. And I'm doing. I do see those aside stretches. You're doing yeah. Open the guts for some fucking jam in some food so to my poking holes is weak eight minutes after the Food Horn at the beginning of week. Sometimes I do that assumed horny. I sit in an. I'm eating one meal and I know I know that I have a specifically planned other big meal. That's coming in the future. When you cheat on the meal that you're eating by fantasizing the sizing about another meal emotionally cheating not physically cheating but I sit in and I do and I think and get kind of a titter I have a titter are inside of me knowing that I'm going to have some? Because Jackie's making Samak and Jay from excited for we're going to gain a techie own on. I'm watching these videos on deep fried Turkey and might convince Jackie to try it. Yeah Oh God I'm just getting so fucking big for it. Well indeed you are welcome to side side stories. Everyone I am Ben. kissel hanging out with his brow ski on this week's Abe Lincoln's top hat. I actually talked about factory farming. And what's going on regarding treatment of dog in in this country. You did an episode about dogs being grounded in thirty four. Thanks giving no. The dogs are routed. His AAC the ask for is a break from all of this horse shit several days I know yes. It's there's genocide at Thanksgiving yes again. The only thing I'm genocide in this fucking Thursday sides mashed potatoes and stuffing. Okay Brussels sprouts. You know what I'll put it this way. I am not liberating the Brussel sprout mill. That's going on in Jake kitchen this week unfortunately yeah. Maybe that doesn't make me a fucking savior but I can't be a savior savior every day at. Gd Week all right. Thanks giving the one day a year. You're allowed to be ignorant your ignorant and and that's okay. No I mean I say I invite vite every native American ICU to dinner. I'm sure that just doesn't horrify them. No way you could tell us. GotTa can you even say that. It's because they're wearing feathers but nowadays because of Coachella Culture Rush L. A. Culture has spread the indigenous person look into deep into white women's lives hipster. Cultural appropriation is a very real thing and I must also notice. There's a big thing in New York with the hipster clothing serious specifically. It's a New York orkla where they'd like to dress like a nineteen twenties painter or workman their fantasizing people who have to work for a living. Yes Louis I would say that about the overall. Look doc you are fetish. Somebody who's jobs. I believe farmers where overall so they could detect. Corn is ripe is by rubber deck on it. Yeah I don't know I don't ask Marcus. I'm certain no I really don't know but I would assume there's something like that but I agree with you. Stop dressing like you're in nineteen twenty painter because because we all know you're a two thousand nineteen out of work unemployed person who is siphoning money from their parents come on technically not. I mean not out of money. Whoever all right because those workman's clothes quite a bit of money? It takes a lot of money to dress like you paint houses for a living in New York City. I mean I guess they may do make it money people paint houses they do. There's nothing wrong with being a house painter. I was a house painter in college. I lasted one full summer. Turns out not very good at painting and I don't like heights. Yes so that was that was quite Kyrie me put on the hat then man. It's like I'm not going to be with you on Thanksgiving giving and I feel like I am but I always your resume for painting houses. Did you just pay one of your legs. It's a little driveway well. You don't don't pay driveways but speaking food Henry did you. See what's going on with Papa in the House Papa John Papa. John is wet wet and struggling. He is losing it. He is soak. I guarantee you. He is hoarding weapons. He is close to a mass shooting when he said words. So we're referring to papa. John himself what is his real name. Papa John Schneider. Yeah John Schneider Schneider Schneider yes he did a what he called. It's a sort of like an exclusive personal revealing interview for what I believe is W D R B. The News in which he said a lot of stuff. That's pretty puzzling. And the reason why we're covering this on side stories is because we kids'll and I. We're both pretty certain. Papa John is about to fuck in CH- take to the streets. Yes this is. This is pre papa. John Crime this is pre papa. John Crime because he is pissed off and the funny thing is you won't be able to obviously see it because this audio we're GonNa play twenty five second clip here but he is no longer the CEO of Papa. John's and the reason why that is but he's still dresses like he is. He still wears the red shirt and the Khakis because he won't let go you know He. He was fired wired go from his own company for saying a racial slur on a recorded conference. Call a conference call people. He was role playing. That's what he said. He was role. But I don't want to talk about the nature of character on this show. I don't want to talk about in in reference to Papa because I resent his role playing stance because some of us and his brow ski have role played in the past. Let's get into this conversation that he had and and again this is why he is on the brow. Ski Kissel Detective Radar Crime Watch Crime Watch pre cry much. Let's listen I've hit over forty pizzas in in life thirty days. Livy currently in Mark Shapiro should be in jail. He has no pizza experience. He's ever been in the pizza category. I would just say a stay tune there. We'll come straight. Why not set the record straight now I mean what is it about the record record? That's what does that even mean. This clip comes from a twitter account at Bubba prog On the Internet can't speak to elsie posts. But this is where this clip was lifted from number one breaking this doubt. We've covered every single serial killer every major serial killer. Now we're onto people like Clark. He is eating forty pizzas in thirty days for this gearing up for Berserk mode when he is doing wing. Think about how scary this is right. Your boss is fired. This is like you're at any job. Let's say you work for. I don't know CITCO aren't what Citgo go the gas station. I always wanted to do that. You work for CITCO The gas station. Your boss says the N.. Word everybody at work is fired. Eddie now is arriving at the gas station. Forty Times within thirty for thirty thirty days to test the taste of the gasoline to see. It's Br I don't know if that's the exact analogy but it's the boss. Keep showing up in like could help notice that All Your Jerky is completely an organized. The poor could put up our chicken and he keeps coming because he says he's doing quality. Control on Papa. John's since the helm was taken taken from so it reminds me a little bit of the First Rambo movie. We're yes he left Vietnam Vietnam did not leave him. And Papa is just he is not gotten the net. He's like the girl from from Wayne's world where it's like. We broke up three months ago to you. Just have to stop eating beating. All of our food will keep showed up number one. Can you imagine the delivery driver because at this point I imagined same root. You're seeing seeing him quite often. Oh Yeah No. It's Papa John's because he's got a shirt on that says Papa John You know him. Definitely you have to deliver the pizza to to Papa. John Who answers the door soaking wet. I don't know why so can win in this interview. He is literally he looks like he just did. The Ice Bucket Challenge Alex. Yes he is sucked. But it's not so. Thank you so much for delivering Russo. told me give me that. Look broader in there for Ya uh-huh. Yeah it's always in their papa. Can I correct you guys. Actually he's not wearing a shirt that says papa. John's it says Jeff Baseball so he is not the company anymore but he is still wearing a company colors because he bleeds. Well read like all of his new name. Joe Baseball that might be what he the order's under is Jeff Baseball named like. There's no way on catch me now to chiefs pizzas for John. Schneider are actually the name. Is Jeff Baseball. Jeff as I'm an anonymous citizen living in this pizza shape your Yeah I mean I obviously couldn't tell. This is the Papa. John's compound which is a giant J. Jay all pizza colored partier than some of the other goal of bores. There's certain Mara were. You must learn colonel good terms on kitten pop so close to be in prayer keenum linked pizzas with all my favorite races. The truth is my favorite. I'm trying to reverse it. Come on Papa John Henry says he is wet and he is weapons. Also don't I think he's he's covered in a Sheen Vassil Lean Sheen that he is wearing and now his mask his face looks like he's wearing a mask because he had so much plastic surgery and then the fact kind of grows around it. It is really astonishing. There's people are leaving stuff on the floor there. Do you know what I mean. They're leaving Monte on the table when I get that garlic butter I know it's recuperating factors has towards the human skin which swire who is lower myself so I'm supllies delectable to passersby and I get that moisture illness to my skin the only knows healthy. I mean you know he does look like an Italian Italian ten. He's got he does look. He's covered in garlic butter. And I WANNA lick that sweet fraser his but bed so he goes out. He's eating forty pizza as soon thirty. Today's berserk mode getting calories during his cheesiness proteins and sort on a treadmill eating pizza like the dirt her the dirt and every day with Rick. Rick Skull have you think at some point that he probably will have a piece of pizza that actually does he's here. It is quality marker and he freaks out like smashing the mirrors and his home sucrets. Close should be impeached. Detail reported Pizza Guantanamo Bay Inge. Things side of themselves like I did and Training School apps absolutely that that is his mindset right now a day of reckoning this comedy a day of reckoning is coming I just went when are you. Have you ever said that. Like a day of reckoning. Reckoning is coming is the primary ser- to every single mass atrocity. That has ever happened in the world. I'M NOT GONNA say I haven't said it like real drunk alone in a hotel by myself before I think I have said it looking out onto some city. Just Dave reckoning is coming for each one of you but I do that just to make myself feel better I ever say to a reporter no especially once the reporter does know that you are in distress. You are angry you were the former. CEO You did start this entire company. You Are Papa John so I understand for him. He's just like no without me. There is no Papa Johns. I think he's it's going to go. It's not going to be mass shooting. It's going to be mass bombing of Papa. John's going to be some weather underground stuff. It's GonNa get crazy and everyone. What is GonNa him he is like a super villain? He's just one of those guys seems to be. I think especially. If you're in this area like imagine he shows up everywhere it's like the manager is from one papa. John's is at the grocery store and he just happens to see. There's Papa John Full Papa. John's fucking chef's hat at the various vegetables. If you like doing quality control virtual trying to see you for up par Praca Papa John Usage. It's been like Sir. Please leave me alone. No we're usually and look so comfortable sometimes WANNA crawl earned. I WANNA sleep with you. Please just give me your garlic butter on you. ooh I mean they always do say true. UH-HUH CEO's technically. But we're not papa. John Right I think to get to that level of pizzas success. You have to be a sociopath I know. No now. You've just taken away. The think sit alleviated his sociopathic. I think he's on the loose. I only person that I can really point towards. WHO's another other pizza? Magnate is Herman Cain Herman. CAIN is the The last man of his stature to make I guess he was vaguely almost president. That's pizza money. You know what I mean. He's another pizza Lord so imagine he's still in charge of Godfather's pizza. That's still Herman. Cain I think that Herman Cain no Kinda understand knows at Papa. John's number one papa. John is bringing shame on the pizza. Industry has all unfortunately he is doing. He's doing in bad shit and he further embarrassing himself and I wouldn't. I wouldn't be surprised to see Herman. CAIN fucking suicide Papa. John Really really suicide them. You think so I could see either Papa John Dramatic terrorist affront on every single Papa Johns that exists or Herman Cain is going to Epstein him inside of his own home. But he'll do real embarrassing like they found him with the fuck in vacuum into his asshole to get some kind of weird suck and thing and it pulled all his guts and that that could happen. And it is possible the Papa Killed Epstein. We don't know we don't know what upstate student. We don't know what I would give to find that out to be true. I quit everything I could ever become. I would become a travelling troubadour. Just singing folks because that would just make I mean like that's just the best thing that ever lived never existed. What even the purpose? I'll just sing the story from from town to town so that everyone knows what did how how much it inspired me. All you need is a soapbox a story of Papa. John's killing Jeffrey Epstein. You heard it here your phone. I folks on side stories if that does turn out to be the case but if you do get a chance. Herman Cain listen to him on youtube singing. Imagine there's no pizza. It's the it's the greatest song of all time. Nope it's not easy if you try honestly every time I do a crime or salt asleep and I saw Herman Cain hurricane did imagine there's no pizza and yes. It was incredible I saw I saw them over at What was I doing Fox News and I went up to him and I was like that song makes me smile? And he looked at me very confused like I was making fun of him and Kinda was but I also was very authentic. Because when I I'm very sad I play imagine there's no pizza and he does a great job so if you're sad this Thanksgiving 'cause you don't like your family listened to that and makes you listened to the puppy mill episode of the. We can stop fucking Thanksgiving all right. Let's have just has a producer J.. I'm even think about it because I don't believe in celebrating all of these so-called holidays this is getting sadder and sadder. I'm GonNa try to make thank you feel better by. I will admit so. There was a little brief before we get into another story. Ben Kissel for brief moment on last podcasts and left now that he hasn't been right before. Oh for sure. Sure but I'm going to go ahead and say officially I apologize. Wow I apologize to you you while Ben Kissel for yelling at you and saying that you are incorrect about saying are. I don't think you're ready for this. Jelly was not in fact from Jaylo. Oh but from beyond saying that's correct you are correct. Wow this is amazing when I thought was happening was I thought that you said that beyond say was what J.. Lo meant which is why I was so concerned for your mental wellbeing and wondering if you had had ingested quite a bit of carbon ridden dioxide from whatever choke in yourself while you're masturbating carbon bad you want carbon monoxide. That's the bad one I don't know but anyway so I thank you Henry. I appreciate I accept your apology. And and now we can see if we can get to the other three thousand reasons to apologize. We we can do that over the years. Never okay great now. I actually thought that was uncomfortable. I was accidentally correct about pop culture from nineteen ninety ninety seven which is something. I shouldn't even know it does not matter if I know this information freedom. Jaylo a Rod are beautiful couple and my friends served a rod at a bar recently and she said he was very quiet. Very nice all right. So what's doing. What inspiring story if you haven't been granted right? What do you WanNa talk about? First Year Henry other than Papa. John's potentially be the serial killer. We have a couple of fucked up stories that popped up in the news. One was this story that I'll just say this is again. You know happy Thanksgiving. I hope you guys are around with your family and your friends. And you're ready you're ready to share some the things that you learn from this week like the story came from berks regional news w FM Zee TV about a man who killed a couple with the hammer and you set himself on fire he also kill all the dogs and the cats in the house. This is really brutal stuff so it was comes through side yeah it was a murder suicide. It's from reading. Pennsylvania Burke County couple all died inside their home after being hit multiple times with a hammer by third person who then died after setting himself on fire inside a nearby garage. According to Pennsylvania State police who who revealed new details on the case during a news conference streamed live Joanne deluca sixty three and I reread sixty. Were found dead late Saturday afternoon inside their home at nine. Three one Chestnut Street and union township. If you WANNA go look at it and go see what it looks like I suppose. So but so one of the victims was found dead on the floor and the other other one was found in the recliner and against his where you'll be subject to the head but that one in the recliner that reminds me of Rob Zombie Halloween. Do your baby be my homies. Duct tape is very abusive father and cuts his throat. I was trying to see Halloween to watch the Rob Zombie remake a Halloween because again Kissel so and I are essentially Rob Zombie apologists and we love him. I would say I love him but I couldn't find all the way to anywhere. This is taken away from the story. So what they just said was. The man didn't didn't even die from the flames. She he covered self in some form of flammable substance and it looks like he died of smoke inhalation. Wh Why why did he do this. No one seems to really know. Also I think it was one of those this is probably where the beginning of one of those snickers commercials He was angry. Ah Yeah it could be turns out the whole time. He was Joe Patchy according to the police. They say one of our veteran investigators said it was the worst crime scene. He's ever seen inside the house. This according to Lieutenant Scott Brennan he said the dogs. This is again because two dogs and two cats were killed. He's the dogs. Had their throats slit and the cats were stomped. Police said they had no record of being Had No record of having been dispatched to the House for problems in the past so it just like this. This is big careful with your friends and your family. This weekend on Thanksgiving you never know when an aunt or an uncle it's GonNa snap and all of a sudden they got a they got a hammer but if someone's not not holding the nail standing by a piece of wood that hammer is going into your head big thing is is that because of the holiday instead of immediately shooting shooting them in the head in case of the entire families armed at dinner. I'd say give them a shot and dress them to the ground and get the hammer away from him and then ask him. Hey Hey what are you thankful for rugged sometimes when I am incredibly upset it's really really important to remember. What are you grateful for? I'm grateful for that. You Pin Penny of the ground and took this hammer from me. Because I was GonNa do something I was going to regret number one. I'm also thankful for. I love Barstool Sports. Does your uncle rising. Just just remember what you're thankful for this year and then maybe if you really feel in it like for feeling the urge like you had a dream that you're playing whack-a-mole with your entire family early within with a hammer just lock up the hammers or take a couple of hands and throw him in a Lake Hammer. Yeah it seems like they don't have the identity of the perpetrator fully figured out yet. But it seems like it's most likely deluca adult son. Who lived with the couple? You'll also get some parents are not victim blaming whatsoever but at some point parents can get your kids out. You GotTa kick your kids out of the House. It'd be so scary like because we've talked about this in the past like people that are like that the Im Adam's mother would all that came out of an the the idea of like bure with your a child who you love and you're desperately trying to take care of you are elderly and you're living with this person who maybe I eventually and you don't understand understand. Maybe just why yet. But you're becoming afraid of your son. Roddy do about that Shit. When he's just going on there with a cantaloupes and salaries Kale? It looks like he's doing that in the kitchen. What do you what do you do about you? GotTa Call Up John and Ken my son be CEO again. Yeah because having him around the House is scary as hell. Oh He's so scary. Like this is the type of people a Papa. John it's GonNa fucking pulled together like a like the penguins army it really realize these are the type of people that Papa. John is going to single out where it's remember terms of SUV. So you shave you from those angry feelings late night a late night out late night just thinking about how you WanNa kill everybody with a hammer. Yes Papa yes comedy join. Orange Armageddon Komen join the tidal waves. Good Hawash all over this world. I could see the pop occult springing up any any time. Now that's the day of reckoning is coming that was straight up Joaquin Phoenix in joker. That was a sentence that every super villain has at some point in society. Yeah Oh well speaking of disgusting things to talk about with your family we also have a situation going on in Toronto Antonio Right now which we are going to actually be in very very soon and you know what this story is getting so excited to be there my God so police are investigating three separate incidents where a man dumped buckets of liquefied fecal matter on just random people This is like one of the most disgusting things I have seen in a long time. They are diarrhea attacks ax. They have taken place in the last week. Maybe this man has been eating too much papa. John I don't know but he dumped a bucket of liquefied fecal matter on three people and then he just sprinted away I guess all empty from the fact that his dookie is no longer inside of his body. The man is described as a black male in his thirties thirties. He has a medium build wearing a yellow heart a blue shirt and gloves. He reportedly left behind his orange home. Depot Bucket wore gloves loves. He's wearing gloves. Because he's holding feces he does understand it's disgusting. That's incredible. He's he's wearing glove. That shows premeditation. He News GonNa get it over. His hands is disgusted. So this is fucking this is a thought virus gone wild because they thought virus out there be concerned thanksgiving. There's so many opportunities to get an entire family with the bucket. Shit man if you've got so horny rate like let's say you were made Horny by this by this idea right and the splashing all whole family. Your with your liquid. Quit Shush Right. Can you imagine. See it Nanna there and pop who there and fuck and but all the new kids. Little Gregory agree. Just turn a nice sweaters on. You've been doing nothing. But drink. And Coup Ladas and eaten Indian food. Just uh-huh would you random diarrhea casing this family and you know. They've had a lot of changes. This year. Maria got married. They got a kid on the way. A Nice Scott got a fucking. He got a promotion at work. Oh no cousin Benjamin gotta deal with spotify. He's doing all these people they're ripe. They're ripe for catastrophe right. And just so I gotta make you so hard to just roll up on that fan. They think where to Papa. John's uniform if if you want to delivery man and then just getting everybody in one go. Oh My look a dookie gallagher concert. That's not good on November. Twenty second this dude. He dumped a bucket of feces over the head of a man who was sitting inside the Roberts Library at the University of Toronto. Then unloaded feces on a woman. They're going after readers so I think we're safe. People did not know what was in the bucket and tell the odor set in and then this is a quote no odors no. This is a quote from an eyewitness. He says the smell hit like two minutes later and it was a real foul. Ah Smell he goes on to say. It's something like if you were working at a construction site. You know one of those mobile bathrooms and you just went in there. Like a very concentrated feces. Like smell no no. I almost saying again. I'm playing with no victim blaming here. You don't think that they should have smelled a common. I hear really bookings you're in a library. You are in a library your knee deep in Book. Five of Dune. You're talking about your controversial alien ideas you. You're so focused on this book next thing you know you gotTa Santa Claus. But he ain't bring him gifts. It's bringing bursting first thing you wonder as being like you sit there and smell like somebody is Ford it. There's no way that fumes. We're not not coming off this bucket of dookie. I don't know the the win. This says do poured everything out of what looked to be a twenty leader bucket. That is like a lot. That is how person still alive is crap twenty leaders. Aren't you dead if I was the mayor of Toronto Paranoid Up Security Oh totally I. I think there should be more police presence on the streets of Toronto. Sure and then maybe we're looking at or is this a backdoor way to create martial law. A little bit different but we talked about this on top just re they just renewed the Patriot Act. Yes this is where it starts. This is this is where it starts. It's more feces tax streets because that's a good subtle way of getting people scared and wanting the police because who is not would not be offended about getting and sprayed with a whole bucket of some homeless persons like which it or. Maybe he's got a job. He's got a home. He definitely hates libraries. That's all I know because then the other attack was two days later. He's stroke at York University Scott Library around five PM. He entered the library with a bucket. Import Liquefied Feces and unsuspecting man's table before he ran away at some point. Don't they have a security guard like at Sam's Club security guards. Let me see. Let me make sure you got everything you not stealing stuff at some point. Isn't there a security guard at these libraries. There's been like what's in the bucket. They're just chicken library cards. They're not fucking packing strapped with Shit. And if you're the nine year old woman that's chicken library cards the thing you really GonNa Secret Service yourself between your you got like maybe got a knitting class to go to. I ain't got time to get fucking liquid shit all over this nice Christmas sweater. I got that I'm trying to impress my knitting group with you. GotTa take the bullet. You gotTa take the Poo Poo bullet in this case. Your security your frontlines. You're the last London defense to protect the great people of the library trying to read from like Deng legit. I'd rather get shot or knifed. I would I would be more likely to jump in front of a person with a gun or a knife than somebody with a bucket of liquid. Shit time thing. Think about this because you just go to the hospital La Times. If you can't like you hopefully will not die but if you get stabbed a couple of times as you can stop the I mean. It's it's awful you get stitched up you get some of that shit in your mouth. Weaponized this shit with yet either because you could have hepatitis a secret. I wouldn't even ask them. Yeah they'd have something in there because that's a big thing you're saying with eating but craze is a more hepatitis going around. I've heard this myth that they're spreading around so this is according to the Toronto Place. I don't know I feel like bullets. Really hurt and you can travel. That's tough to say. I don't know but Toronto Police spokesman Victor Kwan said the suspect affect didn't say anything during the attacks and this is a quote he said it was a dump in run quantum. The victims are obviously disgusted. He also said the police can't provide advice on how to protect oneself from being victim of poop related incident so guy we're saying literally like you know what society this in this this case you're on your you gotta handle this. I say as chief of Police Ed Terrano. I think it's really apart for everybody to get some tactical umbrellas. Okay that's how really main way if you really want to figure out a way Da Ted and yourself. I'd get yourself raincoat dude. It is crazy the cops. It's literally the COP continues. There's absolutely nothing we could ever say to someone who is trying to go about their everyday business to prevent something like this from the happening. The cops literally. This is so Canadian. This is so Canadian in America it would be like well we gotta we gotta do we gotTA poop force. We've got officers on this dookie drones and Toronto. They're just like aw that is above our pay grade. Do you remember when that entire town was fucking gripped with fear by the two seventeen year olds I do. I do the same thing but failing but at least the teen euros the cops are like Oh we can do something about this but they are just straight straight up like no game over. He found a way to destroy all of our communities by poop. I'm just GonNa say this as our Canadian listeners. You guys need to go out there and defend yourselves against these poopie bandits. I know that the police the police have let you down. So they've got to do start art C. Guy Walking with the bucket down the street. You had to give them a hard time especially if these wearing gloves absolutely it or not. And he doesn't look like a construction worker if he doesn't look if he doesn't have a tool belt on with it if he's just free will and especially goes here comes the duke like if he's screaming even that you got to get this guy the guy to be hero. What have you got to be hero and we need A? Let's roll moment from a brave citizen of Tirana. No no we united flight ninety three moment this is according to police chief Mark Saunders. He said they're serious offenses. He says if you can identify the person please call us but then he says until then. We suggest avoiding campus libraries. That's it's just like there's been three to defend their response. I just don't go to the libraries. Libraries are now forbidden you know. What's a real graded to this is to put some of those what's that drug that you could take. It makes you not should anymore heroin no hair. It's got stuff there's like anti diarrhea medication. Okay yeah I mean yeah I mean. The whole bread is a loaf of bread. No you've got a modem ammonia ammonia think. I think this is a really good time for the the if if the Very pharmaceutical companies. WanNa step up and show that maybe maybe we should trust them again. Dan weaponized them odium in Canada. Like an ammonium spray like something put it in the water so is is this like glass where we have a man who can obviously should on command and we need to find a man who has not shot and like five years take off. I don't know that can work that antithesis assists and then we'll see yes. This is the beginning. This is the beginning of a new unbreakable. All right this is. I don't know what the Hell is going to happen in Toronto. I can't wait to Gal K now. We'll buy those tickets to our Toronto show might be sold out much certain. I think I think I might be sold out and don't go to the library beforehand because you're going to come to our show covered it into ghee. What if this is Amazon? You think this is an Amazon inspired crime. This is another one may be Amazon's doing the crime to get Marshall Official Law although to be fair with Canadian destroy nine eleven happened in Kennedy. Well we just won't have buildings anymore like they wanted like the the. US is like Patriot. Act surveilled we're GONNA screw the constitution. And then cain another is like no. You're not gonNA WANNA have a building. Yeah I'm sorry. These buildings anything above seven feet. It's really really too vulnerable to be used by terrorists. So we're going back to underground or we're living in huts saw so everybody sleeper now lying on the ground I love it. I have this one another fucked up story. That came out again. Happy Thanksgiving missing. Pregnant Mansfield woman found dead and apparent homicide. This is by W. H. I. O. Television in the breaking news half in Dayton Ohio. The body of a missing Mansfield woman was found Monday in an abandoned home on West Stuart Street. A few days after her boyfriend was found. Shot the death in a different house on the same block so this is very mysterious. There's obviously some details. Come out about the story. The body was that of a twenty year old Kylie Hayden Dayton police lieutenant lieutenant. Jason said Jason Hall said and Hayden's death is being investigated as a homicide. We saw the other one could say. The boyfriend was found missing earlier in the month. Along with the girlfriend killed the boyfriend. No clue she was pregnant. No it seems like right now. A person of interest in the case thirty year old Larry Wayne Rogers was arrested early Saturday morning on unrelated gun charges and is being held in Montgomery County jail. Oh so we don't know anything about the details of this. It's just a highly mysterious race to have two different bodies separating two different abandoned homes that is crazy so we'll have to do a follow up on that after the Thanksgiving holiday and figure out. If this guy was the one that it did it I suppose yeah I guess so. Something Fun for after Thanksgiving Yup for after Thanksgiving. Don't after Thanksgiving absolutely absolutely so this next story. I'm not going to include your personal information in this because it's going to be brutal for you. So what I am just going to do is say if you know anything being email us. I lost my sweet Cockatiel Vega on eleven sixteen in a completely heartbroken in desperately trying to locate her. Would it be possible for you to ask people to keep an eye out for her on the next side stories she's lost somewhere in Brookhaven Georgia. She is a Pied Cockatiel with a yellow head orange mostly grey and white eight body. She's a little grey stripe above horizon. I am a dark stripe on her beak. She's offering a five hundred dollar cash reward for her return. So if you have have any any information on this email side stories l. p. o.. T. L. at gmail.com. Please I know that there will be bits sent sent us. But if you really do have information on this loss parrot I could help she. Did this year go. Leading on her listing on her on nine one one parrot JEROD ALERT DOT com. I didn't know that existed but go watch. Ace Ventura learn from the master and then go find this Cockatiel till yeah look at guys penises. The urinal it's Vega V. as in Vagina E. G.. Greg Greg. In a letter a Vega. You didn't do anything with the. I don't know why I don't ever do that. interesting well. Let's just talk briefly not about real animals but about the police state that we live in cops have in Massachusetts cops now have from Boston dynamics the creators at the end of the world. They have a dog like robot calling it spot but it's not spot. It's not a real dog. It's a demon creature and they're using this robot and it is terrifying fine. It's raising questions from silver. Liberty advocates. The state's bomb squad had spot on loan from the Waldman based Boston dynamex for three months starting August until November and the documents do not reveal a lot of details about the dogs exact use. But he's saying documents you've seen the documents they said it's a mobile remote observation device this to my troopers with images of suspicious devices or potentially hazardous situations. This is according to state policeman spokesperson. David Prokopenko he says robot. Technology is a valuable tool for law enforcement because of its ability to provide situational awareness of Potentially Dangerous Environments Aka. The war against the machines has begun as I have been saying for a long time and Henry when you're put in cuffs when you're getting embarked up by one of these fake robot dogs very real robot dogs. I think you're GonNa Change Your tune about your love of these robot overlords. You know it's really difficult right. Because as a citizen citizen of the United as a citizen of the United States and as a person I am concerned about law enforcement using robots but as a sci-fi nerd I I look at this and I get so raging hard. I get so my knee. My knees start jumping because it is snow crash that is comes from. Its No- not fun in real Liz. So the is so much fun idea. Wise it's so it's so cool idealize because it's starting to happen. All the books I was was reading about for real and I. It makes me so excited that I bet my problem. I'm one of those that I'm a part of the problem but if I am I'm half Cyborg. I will begin to truly understand where they come from on their end as well. You're half site pork. You're never going to be half CYBORG. Never but Henry. That's like all the people be like I. I think we gotTA protect the billionaires. You never know when I'm going to be a billionaire you're never going to be half Cyborg. That's going to be like. Jeff bezos. is they're going to do it Elon. Musk is already going to do WHOA. I'm comfortable with the distance of thinking. Both sides of understanding in one way is very bad for humanity but but also on the other side it's fucking rock and roll tubular fucking. Give me that. Give me that Shit WanNa see that funk in dog dance around because it's a coup last cyberdog. Now be fucking all about it being in my home my pet you wait you wait until it sexually assaults Wendy. The goal all is is to get the dog if you can get one on your own and retrofit it so that you have the same tools against the government. I think that's important if we want to talk straight up robot Oh bought control. That's where we're going to do a whole new world of debate where it's like. What if it gets too? What if we private citizens could also have access to some of these these robots and there is more private companies will allow us at home to purchase a guard dog robot that we can use to defend against the police states robots? Well I don't know if we can afford that at this point and I don't know they're gonNa let us have them we'll see. I'm certain that there will be private companies that we'll see the need for this and begin to create affordable attack robots. That you can use in your home much like you'd use a gun right. Is that that so far off. No I don't think that is that that far off. This robot has a three hundred and six degree low light camera and in arm. I don't remember dogs. have it in an arm like that. Like a used open doors and stuff but what are building your own dog. Yeah and this is according to this. According to the company they say it. This dog is not intended to physically harm or intimidate people. It's very existence is indeed need intimidating and then they said Port of our early evolution process with customers is making sure we're on the same page for the usage of the robot so upfront we're very very clear with our customers that we don't want the row up in used in a way that can physically harm someone because e e means do human baso edit. They set it. All we do is create things that aren't people that is like inner genetic code. I'm just saying it should be equal. If they can have them. We should also be able to have them as people so part of it is get on it. If you're part of a private robotics company explicit. Tell US inside. Stories L. P. OT eligibilty com. How you plan to go about making these tack Doc? Robots also acquired by the human population. We got to be able to get out there and use these robots against them so for me as long as I also have an army of robot dogs again rule the robot dog those robot dog Judah escalating it yet escalating it. Because it's going one way on the other side died so we have to compete on the other side. We gotta do it. GotTa give these dogs to help attack the other robot dogs mutual assured dog destruction. It ain't right but this will not be the first time. The dog has actually already killed someone member the sniper in now of course granted. This person was going crazy but in two thousand and sixteen this dude who killed the five cops they used a robot bought armed with explosives to explode them. So it's already happening and let's look no further than that self driving car. who also radio and this fucking sweet? It's not good. It's not good. I know it's not but it's also great. It's not good but it's also fun as hell. You have such a strange idea of what's fun I. I just just why the areas where I am more. I am more this conspiracy. This is just happening. They're coming for our rights. There are noble. We we have to make sure we can acquire these robots but they're cyber truck. I the Elon. Musk cyber truck. which for some reason it looks like he did not no not a good role out and it was not a good? No you get to drive inside of a car from original playstation a doc in twisted metal. I don't know dude but you can make it twisted metal. You make every day to scare people on the road with cyber truck. But you're not John Ritter in the movie. Stay tuned tuned get sucked into the reality. It's a waking nightmare it's already happening. It's or sliding in. I know you already have happened. We how do we stop it. I think the Cyber Geno well we need to do. Support the buckets full of Duke. And this is what's happening. This is why it's starting to happen. It's starting to come from the ground up. You know what it is I want want. I love the fun. Parts of the far future dystopia and don't like the not fun parts. There are fun parts all of the fun cars all the fun tack Jack. That's fun that's the best part about hard Scifi three also total recall also hit on boobs. Is that possible. I don't know but maybe Oh sure sure absolutely all right all right. Let's do hero. Aw this year of the week. She's actually this isn't so much injustice. She really is a bad ass. You made a good choice. This is actually like a choice. She is a hero yes she is. He's eighty two year old. She works out constantly. She's very very buff. A man made a horrible decision by breaking into her apartment. She is world natural. Powerlifting Federation's lifter of the year in two thousand fourteen again eighty two years old. She messed up this dude so so she was just hanging out. She was getting ready for bed on a Thursday night with a man less than half her age rang the doorbell. The Dude said he had been shot so she grabbed her phone to downland nine. One one Murphy told W. H. E. C.. I'm giving them my address and guess what happens. Boom he breaks into my house and he's in the living room so she so she reached took a TV tray and started wailing on his behind the ended. The intruder grabbed a table and fell backwards and Murphy dumped a bottle of shampoo and his face Murphy had forgotten about the police dispatcher on the other end of the line but authorities arrived shortly after and took the man into the hospital Murphy. ESPN last year that her three day a week. Workout Routine Tina Rochester's. Ymca included bench pressing Daedalus and strict curls and so she just beat the hell out of this guy and I think she is the hero of the week she she really wants and she took a picture with all the cops because they're all like this lady was a fucking bad ass. You beat the shit out of the studio governor. Forgive Morale's which is a pretty great we'll murphy you are this week's hero of the week eighty two years old keep at it keep on crushing And I'm very proud. I just love if this guy is going to end up going to jail. So how'd you get college. The home invasion then it got my ass kicked by ninety two year old woman. She just fucking ripped it up. I love her. I Love Lover All right. Willie Murphy you are this week's hero of the week we go. I got some listener. Letters is comes from be as as I was listening to episode sexual liaisons with the Alien I was immediately taken aback about the hair wrapped around the penis. I was surprised to hear this because I am a nurse and had a patient who came in with the same thing. He was admitted to the hospital for cardiac reasons. This patient had a hair tied in a not just under the head of his penis. The hair had caused an ulcer to form all the way around his penis and caused a hole underneath deep enough to see into his your e through which we found out by I placing a foley. Catheter could see the catheter. Through the whole no one could understand how this happened now. I wonder was aliens. The reality is that this man was a registered sex offender in many mental illnesses and we found many more hairs tied during the day. So it's safe to say. He was signed them himself. A Oh God okay very not. It's not always aliens that we're learning today not always but sometimes it's something worse than that here we go. This is a really interesting story. My haunted house killed my father. Sorry to start this off. I just like to say quick. Hail Jeff as my dad was the dopamine motherfucker occur which is very nice to heal yourself. Jeff Okay so the past two years or so. There's been insane paranormal activity. In hindsight all the activities seemed focus around my dad one night night. A bottle of barbecue sauce was flung from the counter in the kitchen accepted flew in such a way that it left the perfect dollop of sauce in a dish regarding for before going across the room and all over the floor. My Dad was the only one in the kitchen. He got scratched on multiple occasions. A beer can flew six feet into the air and flew across the room. The and my mother were both present. He saw a face on a statuette. We had morph and move and look at him and you know. Let's fucking haunted mansion. My father other was not a stone or nor was he type to have vivid hallucinations. The final examples list here are the most recent and strange. Vultures have been circling around our house. Quite a bit somehow somehow even gotten into a trash unusual for vultures and less than a week ago a light fixture in our laundry room fell and hit him in the head and the final act was his death. My father didn't have have any heart conditions. He wasn't in the best shape by any means but he was pretty healthy and sure frigging back. Freak accidents happen but my father specifically said he felt something was targeting targeting him and something in this house killed him he was going up the stairs and he just fell he wasn't drunk and the EMT's believe it was a heart attack. I'm sure to some. It's not that apparent but my house was evil and it killed my father. There are forces in this world. We cannot see your understand but they are real and some of them are pure evil. Be saved and your loved ones close with. I agree careful at Thanksgiving we got we got poop. Monsters out there. We got demon spirits out there. Robots dog robots. Oh my God now. This is came from a listener. Who saw this story on? Read it and then contacted the Reddit user to see if we could read it on the show I'm going to read on the show. And he said it'd be okay with the US so this came from A. Ask reddit thread about some of the old mysteries of the Internet. Put some similar government conspiracy. Sounding stuff happened to me years ago I started a VPN business circa two thousand nine right around the time of the Arab uprising and before for the VPN. Business Market was as popular as it is now. Most providers were deploying. PPTP in open VPN. But I deployed S. T. P. which works over port four four three I uses regular. https work with the wind built in windows. VPN client you understand castle right. I understood every single thing. You just said Yeah. Needless to say in the span of about three months citing massive sign ups from China the Middle East North African countries. I never made an effort to hide my identity and random business out of my house one day the proverbial men in black showed up black. Black suits sunglasses black suburbans and so on only they have the olive covered the olive colored skin of someone who is of Middle Eastern north African descent. They asked for me by my name asked if Iran Xyz service identified themselves as diplomatic representatives from an embassy politely. Asked me if they could come in and ask me some questions. I was young men so I said sure come on in. While the meeting didn't last very long they started asking me if I understood what was happening with the Arab spring they referenced Egypt specifically and asked if I would block users from certain countries being able to connect to my service if they requested When I said no not without a quarter they became agitated and then ask who else was involved in helping me with the business event? Starting my mom my sisters my daughter who did live with me and several of my close friends. It was the scariest moment of my life and I was sitting there alternating between panic and disbelief. I believe I told them that. None of these people involved and they said okay. Well why don't you think about what the best thing for you to do. Is and we'll be back in touch. I spoke to some friends in the security world and all of them said to just shut it down. If they didn't do something criminal they probably just sue me into bankruptcy so after starting a VPN BIZ and three months after having hundreds of customers. I refund it all my customers for any anew services and shut my doors literally overnight I never heard from them nor got a visit from the Middle Eastern men in black ever again very interesting very scary all right very very interesting man. That's it that's what I got. Also I want to say thank you to all the people the sentence information about dissociate. OCD identity disorder. We got so much interesting information and it's going to help us fuel further episode that we have in the works and it's really really fucked. Thank you so much for the information. I love wouldn't wouldn't professionals emails about this kind of stuff that we can really learn about because Kissel and I are on you know. We're a working progress. That's that's what I'll say we're working work in progress. We always love learning more and more and more and more and more until we die until until we're dead. Yes thank you for those a lot of those emails that we got about did Were extremely personal. And so thank you for sharing your story with us. And if we were of the capacity Casati intellectually to really do a deep dive into the medical condition that it is we will do so but we would not We I don't think we'd do it much of a service right now. So thank you. How much for that and again if you WANNA email US side stories l. p. o. t. l. at gmail.com that side stories l. p. o. t. l. gmail.com Let us know what stories do you want to hear. Let us know what heroes of the WIKI got and Yeah whatever Spooky Tales you WANNA share with us. We always love to hear him. Do you got there and live every day. Like ask costs four dollars and you've got five laugh. You gotTA laugh. Too Much of a laugh reckoning a ooh recordings combing laugh like you know your own personal reckoning coming in that you're going to go out there and you're going to equalize every single person that's ever wrong you in this. It's life and I assure you you put that intention out there you will start selling your enemies one by one by one and you gotTa love watching the surprise look on each one of your enemy. Mesa see finally finally. The knife that was in. Your boot is unsheathed and it is deep inside of their heart may know then that you have been patient enough to wait and wait to the proper moment. They were their most vulnerable. And then you laid waste to them in their futures well but you should live laugh Athen love. I don't stab anyone over Thanksgiving. There's certainly a night. Oh Hammers no Turkey. Pockets not not in in America. No not happening of all right. Everyone seriously had a great thanksgiving and we will be back next week this week. Home do not know no last pod. This we had no less this week. We're going dark. The networks go dark except for Kessels fucking incredibly depressing show about food. It is in theory and light workers orcas going dark for one week. Because we're just we're going to have a week with our families do this shit. We'll be back next week. We got a bunch of stories lined up. The can't can't wait to get back in the last spot. 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Navigating uncertainty as a PhD with Vera B. Chan

Papa Phd Podcast

52:57 min | 8 months ago

Navigating uncertainty as a PhD with Vera B. Chan

"Welcome to another episode of Papa Peachy. This week on the show we're going to talk about uncertainty. Particular employment uncertainty in academia and outside of it in the current pandemic context. Now in between jobs after her third post doc. My guest will share her journey up to today and we'll talk about how confinement led her to take on new projects, teach herself new skills and double down on her investment in networking. And Remember, I have to new podcast discovery trailers share with you this week. So be sure to stick around with US until the end. Last year I have doubled to my linked in connection. I think in the past I had the mental barrier thinking I shouldn't ask anyone who I've never met. My lengthy profile should be statement like facebook page friendship like only know this people in real life and I only connect with these people and I have taken a long way to break that mental barrier that I could. Make friends with pimple that I haven't met yet in real life. But guess what these people ended up like maybe I would say five to ten percent of them had actually given a phone call and tell me about the stories become relationships that you're. Welcome, to Papa PhD with David Mundus the podcast where we explore careers and life after Grad school with guests who have walked the road less traveled and have unique stories to tell about how they made their place in the world of constantly evolving rules. Get ready to go off the beaten path and hop on for an exciting new episode, of Pop. Today. We have with US Vera. Vera is technically the first unemployed person I interviewed on Pop Each D. Graduated her PhD in Hong Kong from two thousand fourteen and had six years of post doc experience working in the US and France this year Vera decided to decided transition into a non-academic rural and she's still undergoing the process of job seeking as a foreigner living in France. I am happy that she's open to sharing with us about this vulnerable moment the less glamorous side of life after the beach the you can say that not so many people are willing to talk about Vera is the host of the Beach Coffee Time Youtube channel where she shares her insights and advice covering all aspects of life as a graduate researcher. WELCOME TO UP Steve Era. David thank you for having me. I'm super happy to have you here. We we've been talking for a little while there was summer vacation. But now, here we are. and. And Yeah The first thing I would like to ask you would be to introduce yourself to to the audience to the listeners and to talk a little bit about this this path that you've or this journey that you've been going through up till today. Starting with with your academic journey. Okay. So I'm vera. Some of you might know about me from my youtube channel that make videos for you to For PhD students. I'm actually affect PhD student because that was a life that I lived many six year seven years ago I have three times of I have been post op for three different institutions, and now I am officially unemployed and going through transitioning NFL note this a Hash Tag on Twitter Coast Act like post academic. In that cohort. Yeah. So that's my. Academic history and my background training was life sciences and actually marine science. But I refrained myself from same marine science when I have a job interview because people. Are Not, very interested in. Marine scientists and that do microscopy. We run jails like you guys do in science in cancer research but I mean, the just have a an emotional detachment whenever you saying they're in science. So I would you know what I'm GonNa, give you a chance today to talk a little bit of what you did in European given that you refrain yourself. I'm usually talking about it. was, the subject you're done. That's A project is really a romantic one say is called bio main station because. I I let me back from PhD I did double major in my bachelor's degree which was biochemistry and they call the and I am really curious about. Subject in general so that the two major seems repetitive to a lot of people because most people would take second major finance accounting something practical. But when I choose again as truest biology steam type of major. and to me, biology biochemistry was like a microscopic view of life and a call. The is like the macroscopic view of life and fascinates me a lot. So when I started. My advisors saw that I had the skill to marry two different ideas to different discipline. So he gave me another challenge to marry the engineering projects to life sciences. So I was in marine science lab which is specialized in proteon makes notices and that was in my head I wanted to learn pretty are mixing that Latte. But at that time I was in charge of a project instead of proteon mix, I was in charge of. Mineral formation in marine animals. So if you go scuba diving and you see, Koros and all this restructure, the adjust natural mineralisation process and to me, it fascinates me a lot how the whole planet or this important by productivity of our planet was because of this mineral farming says, but commercially, it is important because our teeth is bio mineral are booms and the minerals. If you break things, you have to find a way to repair it so. On offense the aside I would say, I, have a value engineering background on on. Tissue repair but. Theoretically I'm just. Mostly. Working on. Shellfish and how shellfish mic shows and Says I'd of how and. So eventually after your European d you went abroad for your post doc. How was that experience A. Lot of people there I. Myself came for my came from Portugal to to Montreal for my PhD. How is that experience? Was it an easy decision to take and and you know? What. What what did these use of post-abc bring you in terms of learning in terms of of growing not only as a researcher but as a person. It was really tough for me because I? Change country from like the city, the Metropolitan Hong Kong to South Carolina, which is a college town of nowhere I mean I was I would say I was in the US but technically speaking that was not the most representative sight of how everyone remembered like the New York City Boston California I think I was among those trump supporters community i. don't know if I should speak politics here but like a Conservative religious people they're good people. But like they, they just not very much seen from Hong, Kong later visit how calmer example. So to me, that was a big coach shock because then I have to quickly learn different type of thinking different value system that I never thought of in Hongkong. And is it was challenging in the beginning because I didn't have a driver license and to two years in the US. And anyone living in Kenner the US could tell you if you don't have a driver's license, you pretty much house cats you. Do. In the lab. So, it was the most challenging in that aspect like even go home to visit family I have to convince a friend to take me to the airport and knowing that that day they free and I can book the flight ticket, which is really stressful to Okinawa's. Yes but The terms of cultural shock when you when you move countries yet. And it I think you know a lot of people move around when they go to graduate school but people in smaller countries and I I'm calling from Europe. Often they leave their country and through that he could be the food. It could be the boa you mentioned the politics could be that there's as many things that you might. Find wherever you go that might create some difficulties. Some friction let's say. Eventually eventually I guess you. You got you. How can I say? You know you you got familiarized with that and you ended up. Getting knowing the ropes and kind of getting your own well and you got your driver's license. Said right. Five Times I failed. My written test ones and I felt my road test twice and after five visits to the DMV, which is the department of Motor vehicle. that. If you if you win the time machine exists, that's the place to go. To our past, you don't even know how it has to go in and you sit there and wait what number to be card and you failure written exam. Go again next week. Eventually you decided okay I had. This cultural shock. Now, I'm going to France. How did that come about? So It was. Practically, not going to make a glamorous here is all authentic conversation today. Is just by funding ran out at the same months when. France won't the world champions soccer game. I remember that week I was watching that and like we were just excited Oh France won the champions and and the same month I gots like this meeting. My heart was heavy in that meeting. My adviser said, we have no funding and one do have one more week. We will run out and I know in America with the visas I had I had to find something critically so but it was like a very strange coincidence one of collaborative from back. Then he sent just a random information email that this institution is hiring. Post doc description was like a ninety nine percent match of my PhD I apply with the thinking that I know I will have a lot to offer but I didn't really think much about how much do I think this is the fit for next careerstep like I was thinking this is a job and I take the boxes though I want to be there because I felt like this resume like this job distortion is asking for me. So I show. And I did get the job in one week. It was strange for another post doc is sounds like I'm bragging, but it's just I. Think it's a lot of star aligning in that week that. The job. Especially pursue the to profile was like ninety percent fitting. What they were asking that's also. So common rights. So perfect. So we're going maybe a little bit fast throughout your journey, your academic journey but the thing is I kind of want to talk about other things because looking at your youtube channel, there's a lot of interesting subjects that that you've been talking about on there and. but before we go there, I still would like to to kind of. To kind of ask you you know throughout all of this and thinking of maybe your viewers on Youtube might my listeners on the podcast The I'm sure there are lessons or there are. Common mistakes that you have. The you have identified during your journey that may be people who are listening can can gain if if hear about and you know you start, you did a phd you then moved countries you moved countries again. Are there some lessons? From this journey that You traveled a lot. You move very far from. Home. Let's say. And we didn't. We didn't even talk about how often you were able to go back and visit family. But yeah, can you talk a little bit about lessons learned from all these academic journey and maybe of the struggle struggles or mistakes that if you knew better today you, you would not have done them loss absolutely I. I was start with thinking that we scientists have researcher a lot. Of Time, we get lots of information for our own research and revalidate them twice, and you know try to make sure we have all the inflammation from source but ironically I think a lot of us didn't do that for our career. We get the sauces from once one go family of people like academic I. I love my advisers they they're still really good people in my life that I don't. Think anything less of them but I think as a journalist stays the fire in the building together all this. Also from the experts I witness, you know other who is there in the time like try to ask as many different sources as possible to know what to say in the news report the same for us as researcher for career choices I think it's very interesting phenomenon that we add taught to think in A. Very, focused way because I think in academia that's the only criteria I mean one of the biggest criteria to succeed is to be ten vision and focused, and somehow it deter a lot of students from gathering wider sauces speaking to people who have a job speaking to people have been working for a company that new scientists like those important inflammation to know what is suitable and what whether does some options that you can consider. I think that's the biggest mistake is I didn't take a lot of sources from different perspectives and also in Hong Kong, we don't really have lots of robots live examples that are in the industry to be fair most don't become professor. They just work in the government sectors which I know I don't want it to do so is. Felt. That was the only into it to step to go out of Hong Kong and I still think it wasn't a mistake when I look back because if I haven't been to the US I would have seen the industry of science and how my skill set is valued. If I moved to announce the type of political environment that is my home and I think for people who want to see the world from a different country perspective, I think a post is to violet decision. But for people who think that poster is everyone else is doing and that's the only way to do that is That is not a good way to choose it. This is the best way to to decide if you want to be a post doc. But right now I have to post in France and I don't regret it very much because I learned some French and. Speak a word of French before I started the positions so. And I built the. European culture sensitivity like now I know European. Love to have coffee breaks during the day. So if I become a manager in the future I would not let people take a break that's. Those are the life lessons. Beyond science that I felt like not essentially mystic, but I wish I had more. Information to make a decision in the beginning. So you. So what you're saying is people who are, let's say starting their PhD. Too So. Kind of advising them to not have too much tunnel vision and to what form of question is what form can you take? Attending seminars on different things attending career fairs, how how can they start working towards having a wider angle view of things instead of a tunnel vision? What's the things you think they should be doing? Or they could be doing. That's a very good question because is. To have either you become too distracted or become like to tunnel vision and I had heard in America they have They have a orientation training faculty member in. And we were post oak and we were asked to sit in to what we expect. They suggest ten percents or professional development per week is simple as that. That means they do work sixty hours a week us should be budgeting six hours off that week. It could be every day at lunchtime for one hour. It could be every day after work like one hour more before you go home to watch. US. Samina. Ask, someone for virtual coffee break right now we can take the big and also yeah but I think. That having a log book or having a system to track those time and say I'm done with ten percent off my week to to know this and I am reasonably tunnel vision fifty, four hours of the remaining wake on my research and I think that's the good balance to strike. Over time into in four years, five years, it will pay diffidence. For sure and and the thing is you you won't be caught by surprise once either you decide or somehow live shows you that you're going to have to find a job. You will have this log book you'll have notes taken You'll have emails of people who may be met and you can you can start networking and making things happen, and also I mean in science, we love to have a stretcher on everything and go and milestone and I think that's present is a really important training like a yoga class you go in your show up and you just. Let your body tells you your back is hurting today your armies heartache today or this hamstring is ties and you need to like sit in that post for longer and I. think that's the same power of professional development is you never know what you learn from each other and I I love to talk to colleagues in engineering. For example, when I was back in PhD we because I have to be in charge of the to discipline but a lot of time I've learned the goes creative idea just because of serving how other do their work observing how other people set up their lives and and those that the opportunities you. Like letting yourself free and open minded to from others and I think it just takes ten percent of the week and another people you'd be surprised how many of them they? They didn't invest that one hour of the day or six hours of the week to do. That is those people who don't do yoga and they cutting back thing and I think that's the same. have. In academia. Yeah and well, we're not going to make go into it but of course, physical activity you were mentioning Yoga any type of sports is very important during graduate school because you're again, you focusing so much on this thing, you might be at at the microscope for hours or at the cryer stat or whatever Yeah. Very important for listeners out there to stay active and now in terms of covert well, that's even that has changed. But still as much as possible. There's zoom sessions and things happening. So so yeah, actually. Do My Yoga with still South Carolina teacher this days today. Because I can't follow a French Yoga class to work and also don't. It works for me. Now. We talked about what you you know quite kind of quickly about what you went through in terms of. Academia the. Some some advice for listeners in terms of. How to best navigate but now you eventually you got to a point where you decided. Okay I'm going to make that switch and going to look for a position in industry. Can you talk and share a little bit about? How that came about you know and and maybe how you felt once once that idea or that concept appeared in your mind just so. There are two side of building when you are developing career like there's one side I I was obsessed about learning what the professor work looks like, and I was doing a lot of inflammation or interview on campus when I was in the US and want to know about the transition actually that one spring semester department was hiring professors. So I get to see like fourteen candidate onsite interview and I saw the phenomenal presentation. Then we like researched, what are what does it take for them to become interview and shortlisted onsite, and every one of them we spoke on pincer lunch because that's one of the interview on site. Is as postal and graduate student get to ask questions of the professor and challenged them how how they can become a good one for the students in and so we take notes and we have a question poor to ask these professors and having that activity really was helpful because I understand how the whole academic hiring process is like from the inside. Instead of just thinking that it's the frustrating ought to bid when you are submitting application and Ave obviously is competitive, but it's not as bad when you know how in the end, actually some of the most desirable candidate rejected the offer because they have better better phrases to. well, and I think that is that that is a good vision to know and I think we are obsessed about no way. How are the jobs to how to get in the job, but we don't spend enough time to understand the this pestle right you're matching one side to the other as the pestle and you know very well on the other side. But a lot of us don't know how we shaped like and whether we at that piece of Pestle to fit on that met lot. At reference for days the book that I was reading about PhD career, I can send you the name of it. Yet but it was. So. That was the moment. That I was interested but also knowing and can help realize is about to work and is also required a lot of openness to travel to relocate. It could be Alaska it could. Be. WII could be an island in the middle of nowhere. So I was a little intimidated by by that not because I am not had working I have always worked quite hard. I, would say in my career, but it's mostly about knowing my situation whether it's going to fit or not. So career I would say is like Shoes. When you are choosing the right shoes, you know and you're right you're not in the shoes and you are feeling comfortable everyone can tell you your shoes looks pretty and your Chakib, but you're the only person that no, it hurts. Vice answer your question but is a feeling that I felt like. I don't see myself fully comfortable and happy in terms of what I want to do with my Rove to people my road, my family. And I have to say no and Important things in priority. These last few minutes Vera just touch on something. Very important. She mentioned that taking the next steps into her academic career felt uncomfortable. Like it was not in alignment with her values and priorities. And that's when informed her decision to turn to the non-academic space. This, question of looking inside yourself and listening to what your gut is telling you. Be It about the choice of your research subject and Pi. About whether moving CDs or countries for your post doc or about starting to look at different avenues for your professional future. Each key to making choices that you will be able to stick to and find fulfillment in. I next asked her what strategies she's put in place and what resources stern to to prepare for the non-academic job hunt. Here's what you had to say. So I, let to make an analogy before I answer I think any transitioning of career is very much like a broken relationship. You have to move on from one partner to the other like you have a boyfriend that doesn't work out that you want to move onto the next one a lot of time I think people have the negative thinking all the time about Oh. This is the most terrible person this. Is the worst experience in my life and I I want to say this is not it. This I want to think that this is my experience that was from a useful time that I really enjoy everything I have learned in my academic research and I know there's a lot of takeaway like I can talk to a lot of different culture of people from different cultural background. I learned that I can do technical writing. I'm not a native English speaker, but I'm quite good at attention to details and I yeah. So those little take home of knowing this journey taught me something. What it taught me about me as a person because self-discovery is both ways on the after you have upset a friend and the frontal you a terrible person. Then you know I shouldn't do this, and maybe I was inclining to this way of doing things and I think this is a both ways. And during this unemployed time, I have invested a lot of time to be exploring who I am and what if I done that is working what whatever I was my sweet spot. What are the things that I do the best? Maybe I'm not the best legwork work person for example, like in Marine Science Research, you did to be heavy lifting the marine seawater system like you need to be quite tough to work in the lab. So I may not be the best lap person but I'm always the person people come to ask for advice on the manuscript Tang revising how the language is like and people enjoy my writing. So I do. Know, that from my past experience and another aspect of Rachel Rachel spectators thinking. About yourself is also were introspective about looking about an inside who are. has to come with talking to people to. To us the end of my contract I already start to network king more and polishing, linked in profile and quitting more appropriate business friendly photo on. Nitro thou- and rewriting other narratives of what I think I have to offer for my next job. Listen to what viewers just said. How does it make you feel? A little uncomfortable maybe some imposter inner talk. Well. Viewer makes a very important point here. And that is that employers in academia and employers outside academia don't speak the same language so to say. They're not looking for the same things when looking at candidates. That's why you can't find a CV when applying for an industry job. You have to pair it down and distill it into a one or two page resume. And it's also why in the same stride, you should make an effort to be present on a platform like Lincoln and show an image of yourself as professional as possible. As that with about three hundred people on my network, which I know in person. from my maybe academic record and. After I re redone by linked proof I, think it's a mindset shift because academic academia we don't need linked in profile to find a job where research gate and Redo other things like twitter's right But I think Lincoln is it is a statement saying that you are also. Available if someone wants a freelance job or you know something but you can still be a student, but you can also have a lane profile that advertise what you could do like bio analysis or statistics like those skews that you could offer. Don't have to have a full time job and I think that is a profile that tells people that Your Business Ready. It's going to be online this more streamlined than your academic CV right right and employers recruiters they this is a friendly system the algorithm helped them to recruit. So you want to be socializing on the dean and I don't know how you. Remembers Facebook, for example, your friends on facebook that whoever shows up on your feet at the people who use it more frequently. Then essentially your best friends but they just you know have more likes more comments they show up on the top, and that's how unfortunately this world of Algorithm is working. When most people comment on your posts on end and your your recruitment recruiter search ranking could go up. So since last year I have doubled to my linked in connection. A lot of people I have to remember from each younger time when I met them from school and I never really make connection officially on nineteen. There were a few that were mostly from inside the inside group like I've met David do on. I think in the past had the mental barriers and King I shouldn't at anyone who I've never met as she only my profile should be a statement like facebook page friendship. Note is people in real life and I, only met with these people and I have taken a long way to break that mental barrier that I could. Make friends with people that I don't haven't met yet in real life but guess what these people ended up like. Maybe if I would say five to ten percent of them had actually given a phone call and tell me about the stories and that become like a friendship an informational no interview for my side but like I become relationships that you build. So and in that conversation, those are valuable because knowing what those people have to go through in their career and I mostly connect with people who already have PhD and also going through similar transitioning because I felt like is support group system that I can build if I have more outlets of knowing way of people could go. Some people are proud. Of being msel, they they they live like on a suitcase and they travel time. But some people are proud of being a medical writer and tell me you know I get up at nine o'clock in the morning and take the kid to school and I work in California time. So I'm still ahead of you know the person is on the East Coast and. She yeah, and I felt like. Knowing these different perspective and sharing their story, and after that taking a look at what? Works for you is like shoes. Advice is like shoes I make the. Ahead of myself. But when people ask linked in questions that there is a track, you shouldn't ask for advice and I have done that like you ask people what advice do you have a person who is? A foreigner. In France like. From any advice but if you ask people their stories and what did they know of anyone who has similar walk of life and can I get connected with that person? Then I actually got connected with someone who has transitioned from a PhD to a job in France and she international and she told me all the work required to to. Transition Visa. And I could then go to a job onsite interview and tell the employer you know this is not a big deal. I have I have no people and I know lawyers that could help to do it and I am committed to this opportunity. If you let me and I think having that perspective is giving to give you a lot more way to response to like what are you going to do with your visa situation. So what I'm hearing is because you were talking about having informational interviews back when you were in the states but Lincoln today allows you to do that online if you if you find someone. WHO has a profile that interests you? You can approach them and as as you're saying. The eventually they respond and they can even share their stories. So I think that's a very, very good tip that we're giving here. And don't be afraid to be rejected because they people always have things to do and the background, and you never know why that person that knows you and is not the person who attack is just that person may be changing diaper at that time and respond you know. There's all kinds of things happening live, and if that person come back to you a few months later, that's good. If that person don't feel interested in socializing with a stranger than than this could to it's about conversion rates. Videos and I know exactly. Thousand. People Click on the video maybe only ten of them subscribe. Always, a conversion rate in life and yeah and I think to be making to make normalize and celebrated success. I think is the most important in this journey who so? I. DON'T WANNA GET Too much of a clean break here and I do WanNa talk about your Youtube Channel and we will talk about it soon. But. We started talking about Lincoln. Talking about skills and skills that you were trying. To tally up what you had accrued throughout your journey but. Excuse me. But. What I what I was wanting to ask now is. So, once you did this introspection once you looked at, okay. What can I put on linked in this this this this. I imagine you found gaps what what did you do What were what what initiates initiatives that you take to then fill out some gaps that you found that you that you thought okay. You know this I can I can get this extra skill I can. Do this extra networking etcetera etcetera. What and I imagine that you. In the middle of this process. Now, right that that you're looking for a position and again thinking about listeners and listens to who might be in the same situation, what strategies have been winning strategies for you. Well. I was a winning strategy could be overstatement since I come I myself. I got the job yet but I do have a strategy is i. Read People's Profile. And other times I analyzed how they structure the words and Watson those they use and it may be a right. The Iran might may not be anything right to wrong but I I would be. Giving a score in my head like where does it reads? Maybe some people use like coffee symbol or some people use like an Arrow Ha I need to change my actually but like the ongoing process and there's no one and done do for in. But I think keep breathing what people put their and knowing this gives the valued like maybe that that specific species name that I have worked on not it's rather than thinking. Maybe they value the skews of like searching for genes on NCBI platform and blast know like those could be the key word and you never know so I think taking good time backward to look at what you have and don't lie about what you don't overstate it. But like also to see what how people frame it, and what are these people especially those who has already you know they probably have a lane profile that's working so. Dot to take note and learn. And about. 'CAUSE here we're talking about how to kind of format and and we're talking. About creating a nice. Nice Very well tailored profile link in. But what about you know in in day-to-day life? Skills that you that you. That you. Feel that you were lacking in. In these last few months. What have you been doing kind of to fill up those gaps in black I'm glad you asked this question because I did. Take a lot of initiatives during my free time when I am officially unemployed well, I would tell my previous boss. I was do writing a manuscript for her like it's ongoing. But like I also had taken a lot of self improvement time first of all I started. Thinking that you know I can't have this negative moment of my life be a training woman and I need some food for by praying that is nutritious for me to do meaningful things. I turned to books that are helpful like the like Basically Shea Book Rich Dad Poor Dad. But I think is really good rate because it talks about being rich and being poor is the state that what is decided or what what you do it right now decide whether you're rich poor is not whether your bank has money or not and I. think that means a word to me at this moment because I understood that if I m taking myself as a leader and if I am training and improving myself as if I were working in that big pharmaceutical company and what I would do as their employees in the future, maybe I will end up in one you know. It's important to to make that I commitment to to be a rich mind person and I I mean financially. But like I think maybe financial come a long after. So and also Walk Rich Dad Poor Dad has taught me Tako message was we may be one skill away from the job. Being very successful, and in my case, I think it resonates with PhD we are trained and tunnel vision to one particular. Discipline. One tool but sometime, we may just need one skills like law accounting but computer coding like for me. I have taken a few online courses on Pizon and a little bit of machine learning I also took have taken clinical research pharmacology classes. Those two were offered by Nih and I did the certification after that. So updated those on my lenten profile and also was. Both enough to write a post about it. So people saw that I I was committing my time to improve and got the skills and knowledge of clinical research because I'm a biologist which I say basic science research. But I was surprised by how similar we are. Because by statistics like it's The p value is the same meta-analysis, the same like hypothesis testing. I use her US human. Difference and I think that's that's an important thing to convey, and if I haven't learned and heaven taken a look from the other perspective through those courses because I felt like you can't invent your skills from nothing, you have to take a perspective from the other and then creates that list of what is desirable. So after that car, I actually got the phone calls from recruiters. Ask about my background. because. So you building something and then you're you're leveraging your Lincoln profile to kind of show what you're what you're doing, and again show that you're open for business A. Blueprint and I just just tell you the all the people. I know that are working in regulatory or medical writing beach freelance or or not they all come they. The they studied birds the studied And now they're they're working in Pharma. So I totally agree that the so many transferable skills and that it's you know. Once, you acquired these specific skills that you are that you've been talking that you talked about let's say from the. H.. You become a really really great candidate and I think again, listeners out there great blueprint follow. Comment if you want. Medical Writer. Clearly. Listener out. There is looking for medical writer also, I didn't think of that. Vera. We're almost at the end of the interview. and. One of the things that I still wanted to talk about although it does not have to do with your career per se but it's something that you're doing. Now you're putting energy into and annoying and created putting content content out there for for PhD's is you have a youtube channel can you talk a little bit about it? What it's called and what type of? A feeling of reflection lead you to start that to start on that mission. Thank you for letting me talk about my youtube channel. Yes. So the I fiqh PhD student on Youtube because I felt like. The most on this opinion about a PhD. Study can is hard to come from the real actual he student because of time we're learning by doing and I mean, even people put fluoxetine stuff. But like you know if you want to the most honest experience and help full ones, you have to ask from someone who has struggled and seen everything in reach And talk about how my previous career could be like a voice ex-boyfriend and people some people don't like to talk about ex-boyfriend. Talking about your past and knowing what you have done and how far are you have come from there it gives you the consolidation to move onto the next chapter and I also am a big fan of put paying it forward because I mean all by mentors and everyone who helped me he s g they don't need anything from me most of the time I think it would be a word to them if I can help. Other people that are coming along later in the journey to to be successful scientists. So that was my mission and I forgot to say the Channel Name, his PhD coffee time that was inspired by the French poetry of coffee. Breaks. Because we had to is mandated breaks. Enough that it's like a very. Religious at eighty in France, they are not religious anymore like the the French coffee break is everyone's religion in a day like the. So, yes. So I felt like if we could highness this type of social activity PhD because I felt incredibly helpless and isolated when I time I really along when I was doing postal PhD and I wonder if they better way because I mean sometimes I, it's not that I don't have friends but I know if I talked to a friend, it took another two hours and I have problems stopping from conversation. So I wonder if there is a way to have a virtual social feeling that people feel like they have someone to talk to. They also learn something you know that's how the best coffee place like people give you a the two cents and to is the two cents for is valuable advice and maybe solving a whole week of problems so. That was the. Intention is. I want to pay it forward and I wanted to make better use of my time during this seemingly harsh and unproductive time of. Career is a career break and recruit can look down on a why can you explain why you have nothing and no employer wants you I feel like instead look blaming the system and how visas can hold me back from getting the job. I am I'm in control on every aspect that I can't control which I mean nobody can stop me from putting a video on Youtube. And helping other people and I am a strong believer that if you are willing to put yourself out there and help the others I think naturally the universe with do something back and help you as well and I think also it helps me to know that I'm helpful like if makes sense. Totally makes sense basically the reason why I started. The same. I might be hd was done years ago and I had the same feeling I want to give back to that community and to I want to help you help you know a handful of people not fall into the same mistakes that I did. It'll be mission accomplished for me and I think I think you probably have the same feeling? Yeah Yeah and I think a lot of. Alumni, they only vocal when they made it to professors like. Don't make it to become a professor. They become this pilot. Themselves may be feeling like I failed in mission of trying to be professor and I have nothing valuable to share but that's really not because they those other nineteen ninety percent of the population that is out there and there are ninety nine percent of all of these PhD that doesn't lend on. Professor job that once that advice maybe before they become depressed or having issues and I felt like having being okay to talk about unemployment and like why I'm showing up to date I, it's not like I I have you know I am I am not embarrassed about by unemployment I mean I'm a little embarrassed but like his I think I also. Of let me rephrase that it's not like I am not embarrassed about being unemployed but I felt like it is more important to have someone opened talking about an employment during this time is then hiding it nukes which by the way depending on when the listener you're listening are listening to this episode this is being recorded. Just you know we're Cova distill around and it's impacting hiring left and right and so there's there's. Many. Other reasons and I I agree with you. You shouldn't. You shouldn't feel bad about that and you're definitely taking action towards not staying in that situation for too long. So so Kudos to you for that Vero, we've reached the end of the interview. Thing I'd ask you is to share to tell the listeners how and where they can. They can find you online and and maybe yet shared the the your your Youtube Channel You are l., or your twitter handle twitter handle. WHICHEVER PLATFORMS, Iran So my PhD copy time Youtube is just by YouTube dot com slash PhD coffee Italian. I'm also on Instagram at coffee time apparently a Lotta PhD student now. Love Instagram. So I have to get back on that I'm also on twitter on person no name Vera s Chen. So, you could find me there on twitter. So unlinked in swell if your recruiter and interested in hiring marine science transitioning medical writer. Thank you. Excellent. You mentioned Lincoln Yam. Linked in is also VP as Chen. I. Didn't realize what be as means until I come to America and that's my initial. So I couldn't change so. Well. No. No you started watching your videos the know you're not vera. Thank you so much for having come to to. This zoom interview. Thank you so much for sharing all these. Experiences that you've had in what you're going through right now then I'm like I said I, you're taking all the right actions to eventually land a job that you like that will fulfill you and. Let's keep. Let's keep talking and and maybe we'll have an update interview sometime. So thank you so much for for being you to the young pope. Peachy. Thank you. It means a word to be on this show and I've wished a very now we're come back for another update. was, really, happy Vera. Accepted my invitation because it's not easy to talk about uncertainty. And especially from a position like hers of being in between Jobs And I'm really grateful for all she shared. From the details of her journey to the motivation behind starting her youtube channel. Thanks for having listened to the end. 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35:00 min | 1 year ago

Athina Zampara Part 2 Leveraging Your Skills in Project Management

"Part, two of this week's interview teen is about tells her story of investing in learning as an adult and of building her CV to eventually find a position in European Commission where she now oversees projects, offering support to. Researchers are on the globe. The when I go to the projects and died, discuss with with a young researchers I. Look. What are the skills that you're going to have from this screenings? Not only the research, the the specific scientific their knowledge that you're going to learn, but it is you learn how to be to work in a collaborative environment. You learned networking. You learn negotiation. You learn project management, so you learn many many things that you can. Say to your to an employer in the future in order to make them understand that. You would be good employee. Welcome to Papa PhD with David Mendez The podcast where we explore careers in life after Grad, school guests who have walked the road less traveled and have unique stories to tell about how they made their place in the world of constantly evolving rules. Get ready to go off the beaten path and hop on for an exciting new episode of Papa PhD. So here we are in part two of my interview with a teen about. I hope I'm pronouncing it right, and We had just in part one. We had just learned. How she had during these after threes of had this offer, and she had that she had followed for a job. And we led to her leaving her PhD behind but then after that there's more learning in your in your journey. Learning. You're learning, but also you learning about teaching and learning so can you talk a little bit more in detail of what came after? Now starting with the with the second part of the interview I just would like to remind listeners once more that Using his interview are my own and that they don't represent the Fisher appreciation of the European Commission where I work. So when I started working at this company, well well at the same time. My I was fortunate and I started my family. And then. Is because I had. Studied in Italy I started a diploma and. Bachelor degree in the in Talon Studies in Greece. And well, actually I could. It was too difficult to finish. His wife was working, but at the Susan. Boyd I had a break and. Also I think I was pregnant at the time And the so I was able to finish the degree. M It at the same time had the masters degree studies in education because I because of my interest in 'em in learning ninety Cetera, so I did these Diplo, a master's degree in the Open University in Greece or It remotely in which was also? Good because I could do that? At my spare time, let's say and. So the thing is that the after going back again at the? M I. See myself that I developed more. Appetite for learning as I was growing up super. I mean that Did, they gave us that I was doing my bachelor and my master's. I was I had the. More issues to deal with. At the personal level, it say whereas when I started working and doing. And having my family I more power was released from me for learning. So Y, working or being pregnant? I finished these other two degrees okay. So, that was. For me, that was also another accomplishment than I really. See Myself as. I grew up. Wanting to learn more and sometimes I wish I had these. appetite. During my. But I didn't. But. But I develop them in in this second period. Let sales my life. She named. Sold the the thing. Is that I? Really believe in their Inter, the interdisciplinarity and my my. Price completely interdisciplinary. In in a way that actually I cannot fit anywhere again. It's very typical. So. The thing is that I at the end of that period that is ten years ago, aim. I was also trying to find a job in the European Union because I really believe that the European. Concept and the the principles of. Uniting Europe will for the same goes and goals. And, I was lucky to find his job. Well actually my husband source in Brussels, and then I was able to to follow him, and I started working I in a in a unique that we dealt with the research infrastructures. All, these research infrastructures no. No go ahead. What you Macadamia. What are you using a at Rome? Years that's a research infrastructure, which in Europe actually is funded fifty percent by the European Union cocaine, and it is the inter connectivity between countries for research purposes to exchange day Dow for people to connect an have our one single point for connection and also European. Union is funding the connection or a four. Day data with all the other continence for the USO with New South. America it's address. Oh, I happened to be a unique. That was a I I totally believe in their their objectives and It's amazing. Because they are really providing services to the to the researchers. Eh to do their work from wherever they are, and also in all in all continents, because they are a funding as the connectivity. It's the other kind of of tools for for researchers to us. So I was there and. For three years, was really happy, but then I had them, but the job was not permanent, so I had to change and then I found another job in the research executive agency. There Marie Curie Mercury Oscar. Curie. We have this program which is called my risk Ludovic Curie Actions North Korean that we are funding. Well in the in the unit where I am. We are funding Collaborations of universities and companies that. Form, so they form these console to you, and then they hire young researchers to do their pets. And we have other kinds of programs for people who are doing their. Post doc studies they need to make an application and each year. That is a goal. People submit their applications. And then there is evaluation and. Some of the proposals are selected for funding. So, this is a big program and I also I gained believe very much in this program, because it is a unique opportunity for young people to do their their page the with the best stir. Conditions and circumstances and We have some very innovative aspects. Like for example. We are giving our contracts employment contracts, so it's it's A. It's a job. It's not just. It's not a scholarship. It's not a it's not. It's not a scholarship. It's a work. It's a contract. An employment contract and people can build their careers for that okay okay. Is it in all domains is pizzas in all domains. It's in all domains. Ill look the thing. Is that these consortia? submitted their proposal in all possible domains, but only some of them are. CHOSEN WAS Selected. So we do receive applications in all, and also then we have. A We have dividing the budget to according to the number of applications in each domain sold. As a matter we are not. It's not that we fund more. Well, we actually more projects in one domain, but depending on the number of applications that they are making. I don't know if it's this is. Clean Anyway it's proportional. Yeah, yeah, it's proportionally exactly so, but we do find all kinds of applicant all domains. And so how do I combine all my were? Yes. Yes, because I am in the army independent where it is about physics cocoa, so I have projects in physics, I monitor projects that are A. Maintenance is physics then also they have to do to talk about the impact and that impact can to the society. To the research etc, so I gain then I use my knowledge about cows signs in society. So will this impact and then they have to carve out check DVD's so I use my education studies Diadema. Use it done in this sense that okay we do have also people from Italy but those are a lot of colleagues diarrhea. Customer. Where I work. Along with his mother, and that last my worker as project manager in the past of course. Gives me. The skills to be able to monitor the projects in the best way. Because now you processed officer right? I'm a project officer. Can You you're for people who might be interested in? Seeing what you do or or learning more about what you do, describe a little bit more of. A, maybe comparing to a project manager, what's the? What's the incremental was the difference with project? Officer! Yes. Okay, so The project first of all. We monitor projects and they have to implement their work. According to the Plan that they have submitted twice in the sense that they are analyzing their job in wetback ages with tasks. They have deliverables. They have outcomes so I'm not implementing the project, but I have I have to be able to monitor what they are doing and also I'm I have to be able to to save their their initial plan. Is, good or not in the same. That's why this task so late. Why do you start at so laden, not area? If you want to have results, then, maybe you should start it. you know in time, and then also what are they re allowed comes of the project and whatnot they. Are The risks for the implementation of the project and how? You. They care of these a soul that are. Many aspects of project management. But as I, said from the monitoring point of you. End Okay this is a big part of my daily work, because a project hazard nation of four years, and so we have we follow project during for years, which is not as more time of his monae amount of time and the other begun. my. Task that we have is that is each year we have the goal. which we! we need to first of all. We need to find experts. That we evaluate the proposals then we need to make contracts and. Then we have A. we have a remote more M. evaluation period where experts evaluate the proposals, and in the end we have the list of this elected proposes that we'd be funded. This is A. Procedure that is implemented each year. And each year we start some new projects, and then we have projects in different guy dimes of their implementation. So it is basically project management, but also it's also contract management. It has also some legal aspects because we have. We have rules that follow and ablation that they that the come from a legal contract. and. Then we have also colleague that can help us in matters that we don't know where we don't. Have the knowledge that hot one. and. This is very interesting for me. These very interesting because it is. If we get people, we see how our program has impact on real people. Not You know generally on the society. Generally on the society, but I mean you know you can also see specific impact on people, and then now we also sometimes have A. Some big successes for example We had the project that the fatos had the participant had them. They will go also a three door to door three hundred. Remember 'em papers that When announcing, the discovery was a gravitational waves norcal Doma. Gosh, okay, okay, big big stuff! If. You're preparing to launch your podcast. You may be asking yourself what hosting platform to use. I launched Papa PhD on Blueberry, because I wanted to professional service. That would interface with my wordpress website. That would robustly broadcast Papa PhD to all platforms. And that would allow me to grow my podcast news to come. If you're starting a serious podcast project. 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A exactly an unfortunately, we don't have the time to go and see our products many times, but the for me whenever I go to a laboratory and people. Were there working and. See what they're doing. It's very bored than the dose of I am following many projects and people in tweet there to see what they are doing there. Because also forgot is important to see that You know they are announcing what is happening and some? A, staff that These EU funding has is bringing to them and You know it. It's it's really amazing to be able to see how. This funding has an impact on these people on the laboratories. They situations ending the society in general, and for sure for sure, and I think for other people that have been talking about one of the things people really Take good energy from his feeling that what they do has an impact and seeing that results in a in in a timely manner, not in five or ten years. But you know. How important would you say having? Of the different masters, etc, or do you think that was in two? You getting hired, or wasn't it or was it more your your skills and your? You know your your your profile in terms of skills and experience because what I'm trying to get to his imagine someone out there, listening to the show I'd really like to work in the European. Union and do something that looks like what the teen is doing what? Would you think or would you advise them to follow as in terms of education and of higher education? It is very very because also now. First of all that on many positions that require advanced there studies. Okay so pupil advanced studies. Gone hops menu -tunities work for the European Union. There it's not only us, but also there are other agencies like the A. European Council. European research can't see. The joint. Research, center that many institutions that. Won't. People to be a very specialized. In my in what I'm doing. I believe. Well. I have colleagues with the all kinds of backgrounds in seem it depends on the position would say and how one can. Sell themselves. How can they explain what they gained from their studies to that matches the specific profile of the positions and I think that this is something that everybody should be able to do and should be able to to understand that he's. A for example, and this is this is also I think in all kinds of studies, not only advanced should come also being the the bachelor and the master's degree and what I would advise people without advance studies is that they look for opportunities to gain? The experience with. More as more skews as possible and only the specific scientific skills of their domain. No and one of the things that you hear talked talked about a lot and even on. Twitter Twitter Has To do with the the transversal skills are. Transferable skills, and once you get through Grad School. There's a bunch of them that you organically accrue, and and that you in want and project management for sure you don't. You don't come out of Grad school with a certificate in project management, but you will have done many different things and then managed experiments. If you're doing some, you know. Life Sciences or whatever or or or organize research. If you're in humanities that can that you can sell like you were saying as experienced that that counts towards. Something like project management very important, but they also need to to to to sink about them in the sense that not to make not to have the mass obstructing their mind, they they come people come think about what did I gain from these studies as skills, not only the specific knowledge, and the also that many resources Internet where people come. Look for them and see. In Seoul you know, mop themselves on these skills, and then and they come understand better also for themselves what they can do you? Explain, the and also explained, and then if they understand, they can explain it to other to the employers, and of course one big skill is, it's communication for example. The other big ski for me Ab about from a project management is communication, and this is also something that for example I will not good that I'm not sure if I'm good at now I, it better I, think after after. The. Occasions that I had to exercising. It doesn't come naturally to me. I have to be. A half I have to work on it. But. It's something that people can learn, but they need to I would say that to go outside of themselves and see how they are from an outsider. They have to see themselves from the outside to be able to understand what they need. Improve and and a lot of and also that is professional shape that can. Improve this keyword a lot through, and we were talking in part one of. Just going to whichever career center or career. Career Health Department. There is university and often they're. They're going to be people that are trained to help you to to To gain the skills interviewing skills, etc, etc, and then there's a there's everything you can. You can start you know having a twitter account that you are on a certain theme or write a blog ways that you can. You can train yourself in the communication, the domain for sure I just have one question. To do with you said the people around. You have many different backgrounds so I imagine and. Again I'm, I'm not sure but I imagine that in the interview is very important in in an institution such as the European, union, can you talk a little bit about how that goes? How the the hiring process works? For the okay the hiring process it's it's very difficult. Actually a did did the becoming even more difficult as time goes by. Well Festival varies. It varies as a specific example is specific procedures that are written exams, and then you pass by them. You have interest actually if he eats for And then you become available in reserve list and then. People can call you from these reserve lease. So then you have the more specific individual, say wisdom. Potential. Employers decides that the Inam in an agency or in a unique. And then look it really matters. That you go prepared festival about to know what these agencies doing won't say. The program that you're going to work for his doing. So you really need to to. To Study and And, then and then there's also questions for. You know what are the skills that apply the position also. How simple HR questions like you know, what would you do in a conflict situation? Normal things like what is happening in in a in a any other kind of employment interview? It's the same here. Okay, so it's a classic in that sense, but then just another idea that I had was because you were. Telling People try to look at look at you and your skills from other from the outside, and I was thinking are the job postings? Let's say for Your Age, your program or your agency public. Can People go see what it looks like to kind of get an idea of what skills? In the European Union is looking for, or do you only get to them once you're in the reserve like you were saying well that out of public posts that are for the European Union in general, okay, and mainly you end up in a reserve list, and and the then depending on the agency's Samos post for people from outside, and then again they have big goals for example. That, they make goal expansion. Of of interest and people can apply, but then you need these only. Applications. are found in the APP so with size India absorbs are perfect. Excellent so listeners out there who are interested in Harare. In Europe imagine you need to be there, you know we've we've talked about some different tips and tricks. On how to start the your path, because clearly, it's not something that's really fast. It's a process and. writes. This I think we're reaching the end of the. and but One of the things that I wanted to know and you're already said that people around you are from very varied backgrounds I'm sure not. Of them have your profile, which is very particular. But. Just out of curiosity. Do you do you? The people around you some come because you've done. You've studied physics, but then also history of science and also education and but. Other people from all domains around you or From all domains that are we have also people with advanced adas in life scientists for example we have engineers, lawyers political sciences Communication A. All all profiles. Very variety the end there. That's why I sing that. It is important that A. That's why I think that the. Basic studies are note of. Of. The biggest importance is how you combine and woods. All your studies and how? What's kings? Would they got them and you apply them for for your job And now I don't know I'm going to say something, but it's. It's to you to to think to say if you could If you agree or not, but I have a feeling that. You know you talked about this? Maybe in satisfaction of not having finished European, the and faction. You know this. Little feeling of this little piece of a puzzle that I I can't find it anywhere. Because now it's lost and You know, but you told me that every year. You're helping people. Do you finish their PC's publish? Papers and and things like that, so I would suggest that maybe this kind of vindicates that in a way. What what would you say? The doesn't helping people finish. Can You? Can it not? Put that little piece in the puzzle that was missing for you. Let the Nice. Yes, I like it very much. Yes it's. Actually when I went to work for the program, I would say all these was my dream to have this kind of fellowship now. Working for the program is my next three, you know. So. Yes, yes, these and I hope that. I can give them some. Well some hints of of thing of you know some inside, because well, actually what the music look. Your goal is to finish Europeans the not to. You know event not to be noble. Prize winners, etc. If you count okay, but your first goal is to your PD because you're. Actualize restart after after that, so you have the best opportunity now. She'd be meeting the best vitamin, so focus on that. This is your world. You need to focus on. It's Yeah, it's h through it. It's a nice feeling. Thank you, think they because yes, you make me seem to see seed in a positive way in another way. Well I'm glad I. I don't know it. kind of the the image kind of built itself in my mind. I'm really happy to the that. You like my My thought I think you've already given a lot of great advice. And and just the one that you said just finished UPC and life starts after a very very good one I just wanted to ask if you have another one or two pieces of advice for for the out there. These are my three motos. Let's say eight. You know your your. Character is your fate your destiny. Open be open, find opportunities, and to be open to all kinds of opportunities, even if you know Not Not go for only the standard scenes, and then the last one. That's a finish it in three years that it's because. You have more opportunities after that this is this is the thing, but also at the same dime daycare of your mental health, and this is very very important things. The other thing that I actually tell them is that they need to be. Whole person's not only not to nurture only one aspect of themselves. To be only scientist. To. Do only research they should have. A complete personality for example, if you go and see other, be the bigger scientists. They were not only doing science Einstein was not only doing science science feinman was not only doing science is they had so many other interest and the aspects of their lives. The Made them complete per people and. F- for this is also important that you need to. Research being scientists one only part of your life. You have to have other kinds of sources of inspiration and the joy. I won't say anything else I. Think it's a very beautiful way to finish. Athena. It was a great pleasure having you on proper PC. I'm super happy, I. There was so many messages that you that you share. That were really really interesting uplifting at least in my in my opinion, I think the listeners will enjoy this and We'll have the opportunity to learn and to feel a little bit less lost to thank you. Thank you very much for these opportunity and and I would be glad if. If some of These knowledge can have a some kind of a positive impact for people in the is. 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Sudden ditching of Te Papa North plan stuns Auckland

RNZ: The Detail

20:48 min | 1 year ago

Sudden ditching of Te Papa North plan stuns Auckland

"This is the detail I'm Sharon Reed Kelly today the saga of departure McCoy Hi and why it's been scraped sick and time constraints based opportunity full Monty Pacific islands. Could you know when you have people like parents goebbels those come from South Oakland. You have you know will Smith calling out then you really high school hip hop on you know some really rich and international a national and successful and and how we plug into that is one of the right opportunities we have some future institutions in Oakland have a huge challenge challenge with identifying the audiences and we could have done it our a done it in a really unique an effective ways for that reason yeah the situation as a real. You've missed out on opportunity to bring some of those changes to a pat of Oakland collegiate. I think I really do. I really believe that L. Filipina has lived in south Auckland since one thousand nine hundred sixty. He was a policeman there for decades now. He's a counselor counselor. M. Charles saw her. We note to meet counselor. Philippine Monaco Eight Heyman Park the site of the proposed to Papa Monaco. Hi and he just couldn't resist picking up a bit of rubbish. Look with Donald Day. We were going to have an awesome weekend right now. uh-huh okay. Where are we exactly just tell me heyman pack and it's right in the middle of the the most vibrant area in Tomba Kim mccarter. Thanks station underneath -cation. The you've got there to change and then the whole of Monaco city seen so we've got the MIT not here on the campus campus here. We have this whole place here looking at us. That's part of Helmand pack which Curzio kind of rolling really trays and an upon was several ponds through here thin. You've got obviously just a hop skipping the jump to Westfield shopping center and this is no vindication at all a better community but we've also across the road thaw the counties Manukau help as well as the District Corp but that's no reflection of over community so looking look. This is just a primary and it's a shame that the government and to have got to the point of say. Can we go back to the beginning was was idea to put a museum here to around two thousand thirteen and what had happened was there was some discussion with two. Papa in of Wellington has been working on long-term vision for quite a while now for two years they approached the minister at the time for Culture Arts and Heritage Minister Finlayson and then there was a discussion with the Mayor of McKee Makoto Lynn Brown tell hoping being the population bicycle molly and Pacific and Oakland and probably a New Zealand you know seem the logical choice to the Internet and are totally Taco the support. He's the chief executive. Eh Papa Mike Houlihan. I think very clearly we saw the shift in demographic. That's carrying in New Zealand at the moment the population changes that are taking place particularly particularly north of Topol so this was something which we identified but I think what's happened in the past few months. There's been a huge enthusiasm. I'm for the idea of having the nation's collections embedded in the local community something that Al Community which is the most multi a cultural endeavors could go visit Illinois. It wasn't going to be the scale of Papa in Wellington. It was just I am now L. Community to have access to a place where they could come in see tone from from the Pacific mowdy and also tone from years ago with all the impressionists and everything is tremendous opportunity. Hey we haven't designed any of this but to get that interactivity. I think it would be really very very important. In a sense to feel might be I don't know but it might be more like a classroom classroom rather than the Conventional Museum Gallery it has three primary five says storage spicy exhibitions and education so I suspect something thirty to forty million mighty and the key people at the time was the local board the key the reason they would keep people was because they have jurisdiction over Haymond pack so they were the ones that decided yes or no. We'll see you're feeling at the time is feeling still present now that this kind of thing I museum was something that was missing from Monaci for for Monaco Year but not as a museum that people have a look at Auckland Museum and to Apopka. You know the place where Al community could go and have a look at the tone that it was. It's going to be stored. The history will getting taught. We couldn't see what people are the people could. Let's see here upper. Two for teenagers or young wants to say it. I remember that a a remember being taught them. Leaders of love the community the city got together and on a proposal was a pup itself a representative from the the government the council representatives the Oakland Council council controlled organisations or CA museum. We had Oakland Not Gallery and we had a Pacific representative. We had men the finger on on the leadership group and we started thinking about it and saying hey look this. This is GonNa be awesome to be missing for a community look at what can be built on the area. Just gathering momentum from our perspective victim confidence might that this will happen well. We're the of Johnny on this setting out to investigate but not say what a tremendous start there. There was an understanding that Auckland Council the contribution was the land through the local within had an understanding that the government will come on board and also that Papa would look at fundraising through philanthropic organizations and and look at a corporate companies coming on board basically an extension of Papa and so primarily got into expenditure. I mean that's you has as being a buzz about it and that's that's tremendous. Oh I think that it'll be steady strong support and you know we would have a year for design unconceivable that sort of stuff in the maybe two and a half threes in the boat so the outside inside trees out four years beggar but at the same time there was a tug of war either side of a satellite to Papa Monaco. This is the waterfront. I think he's playing up so we're not nearly doing enough in the South Wilkins. The National Gallery National Museum has a collection of one hundred recorded flakes which have never ever been seen so. There's a whole of treasury edit which we need to make sensible to everybody and maybe on the waterfront. I think there's probably more accessible and very small operation in South Oakland. I don't know what it is. That simple understands. I just don't seem to like South Oakland. Will I do Monaco one but in two thousand fifteen the project was denied government funding. It was revived shortly after but then things went cold again. There was a stagnant period and there was nothing happened. There was no leadership. Meetings are coming together so I ended up asking hey. WHAT ARE WE GONNA meet. What does the update on this because we've heard nothing then came the bombshell to counselor Filipina and others close to the project earlier earlier this year to Papa has confirmed. It's no longer working on the two PAPA MEDICO project after being declined funding for the project from the government for the second time so what happened so what I was going to do well sin deleted to grant and saying hey cannoli take face face to face. Can you come back. Get the leadership group together and let us know what happened so the two have no inkling at all. Look it was paying. We pushed to one side. We just got. We just got the leader and what are the least aside it. Just basically it's not going it to papa needs to come back to us and say to us. Here is what happened in faked. The project was denied funding in this year's budget legit because the Associate Minister of Arts Culture and Heritage Grant Robertson seed he was consumed to pop did not have the capability and capacity to take take on such a major project to pop AC- or Durant Martin seat at the time the plane was probably beyond to Papas capacity is it was focused based on overdue maintenance due to a lack of government funding and you exhibitions but official documents show the national museum was worried it was not connected turn to some communities and to Papa has told the government it risked losing relevance as a National Museum when it asked for money to help move into south South Auckland the museum's bid for one point five million dollars to develop a detail business case for the proposed to PAPA MEDICO project was rejected in this year's his budget documents show Papa warned the government. It was not engaging with diverse communities and not remaining relevant but L. Filipina says he was told nothing. We thought this is still they made and then you get the Lisa subbaraman me on ski. What was not yet what I was shocked. I mean all of us were shocked to say well hold on. Why have we got to this stage. What happened with all the other years that we've been trying aim to get it here. What happened? I'm just going to send the leader to to pepper and just asking you need to get leadership to get it to tell us face to face explain what happened what happened are the other options. I mean is that is that the water now my understanding you this else really this understanding. What about the is that this museum and Oakland at the domain this a great maritime museum this also market. Haven't we got enough already when people say look. You've got three of them unsigned. That's good in for the central city area in for North Shore List Oakland but this being the third largest will meet we we amalgamate territorial local authority in New Zealand. No it's not that's what's missing up is diverse communities that that we have here. You feel like you can't take it any further. Well we see nothing the government who who one of the three parties so you've got to Papa you've got two of the three parties same one. Just say look. It's it's no that's the Lens here from Oakland Keller Perspective in its prime land so you sitting here looking out onto this lovely pat. What do you think opportunity the list really opportunity lost a entombs the more general idea of investment into and South Oakland the wrong credit industries and they're all museum like to Papa North could play. I don't think we would see the idea the era that be lost but certainly right now. I don't think there's any prospect of moving forward in the short term. I'm talking to Nick Hill the CEO of Auckland's economic economic development aid interested in promoting activity in Oakland that it's going to attract investment and activity that's GONNA elite to quality jobs to the city and particularly interested in those possible Oakland that have the biggest challenges from sideshow economic point of view and and that and that is in south Auckland. We think that this opportunity presented a lot of upside for quality jobs in south. and style role was to really push hard and support and promote the opportunity from that point of view. We're not experts museums but we are interested in the spillover benefits that something like this ten creation. We certainly think good offense. When you talk about spill I've been sets you looked at economically what it would have been worth It's very hard to specific a specific proposal. Would you can work through. We know what about the dog. Wellington's two you could take some proportion of that but also the kinds of jobs that we think something like this would support would would work well in south inside is they were there was a lot of things around tourism and retail for example we pug into local ooh cross and products and services that could be supported through a museum in in Monaco but it also things like hospitality not to mention opportunities for schools and local educational institutions to be Lincoln to into the exact value of that you know is extremely speculative but if you take a long view of it a hold of number I if you look at what to Papa because for Wellington it generates. GDP per annum and order of fifty million so you know fifteen hundred jobs so clearly wouldn't wouldn't be as significant as the popcorn but a proportion of that would be off benefit so you know I think you're going to measure these lots of different ways but in a narrow economic seem no. I'm sure we'd be because I was out there just a few days ago with L. Filipina and and we were sitting there on the bench outside. Mit Overlooking Heyman Park and it's almost like dates the missing piece in the puzzle asthma at has seems to have everything else in that's right there. It's all focused on the park into have something like that museum. The seemed that it feels like they would have finished it off absolutely agree with you and we moved the net. I think transformation is not just about bricks excite motor and it's about how you give people things to get engaged with to be exhausted vie to be involved with. It's about brings people to get a at correct hardware-software stuff that you know bill the reputation and brand of place and you know very case we don't slip into dysfunctional 'cause the congestion on roads and with a how how many houses there there actually there's a whole soft the piece that drives the economy and you know this is experienced international that enlistment and to things like museums like art galleries like the odds more generally really helped to bring price alive and you know we we certainly are pushing hard for that kind of analysis to be part of the decision actions. Do you feel like this is a big mistake. Thin the decision that the governments made not found they the knicks tape. I think if the decision is the only one of practicality that there's not the capacity to do at this point and taught then you know a can accept that but I think thinking that this stuff is not important and the for not doing those dodd frank is a big mistake you know we would just advocate very strongly on the potent off investing on the odds of opportunity because I think economic benefits huge and not easy to measure and you know when you arguing way ready to spend your limited resources and tell us we we team to discount the software stuff and you mentioned the concrete. You know it's it's it's very important that we continue to push the and push needs arguments so it's not did in the water yet in a you still trying to get at either. The line was not out decision we we're really an intermediary here promoting solutions unspoken so you know like we've been very involved in putting the parties together around the Amazon Lord of the Rings Film Opportunity. There's a lot of arguments in and support needs to go on in the background and that's all we play and we would continue to do that full the Monaco saw. What are there any other possibilities thin not tot immediately. you know the to do what you gotTa do properly and that means you want to spend money and if the government has parties and our else way it's hard to know we'd have funding will come from so you know. I think right now we'll say to papa half you know the Iran challenges anti anti ability to take on this is very limited at the moment so I don't think you're gonNA see any rosement shore crown but you know in the long run we'll continue to argue for the importance of creating pet forms so modern PACIFICA and you know to really help help to support the richness of the day opportunity in south it. It's interesting with the regional. growth fund and the focus on the province's yet within walking region region. They are hugely important opportunities for parts of the gration. That could do some decent government investment. I meant in areas like this and you know things Kim Fund apply you could say that the arguments will the basement and healthier and you in the provinces exactly same arguments against the opening region and this is one of the details today. I'm Sharon break. Kelly the details brought to you by newsroom dot co dot made possible by the RNC in Sedonia Innovation Fund had the subscribe button to stay across crossed detail every day and if you're on April please leave a rating as it helps other listeners find us. This episode was engineered by stay cool and produced by Alexia Russell. Our associate producer is Keith Aqui miscellany Conway Tin Nine Aw.

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