20 Episode results for "Panara"
210: Burrito, Part 2 (Qdoba v. Panera)
"Isn't a robot. john. I've got some follow up for us from episode forty one way back when when we did it we had a sort of that was back when we only did robots and we had a clerical error where we got burritos. It was very confusing. Because it's not a robot it's just a burrito but somebody sent in a link that i thought was funny. It's actually a little historic. It was it was natural it was national burrito day a few weeks ago and They pointed to an article. That's actually from Fifteen years ago from two thousand six. But it's a story that i loved and i wonder if it changes your thoughts or affirms your thoughts about burritos which is a judge in massachusetts in in two thousand six ruled that a burrito is not a sandwich. And here's why or here's what was going on The fast mexican chain cuba wanted to open at a shopping center in shrewsbury massachusetts which i assume is not horribly far from you massachusets in the big state And there was a panara at that shopping center and the pinera had a clause in. Its lease that. No other sandwich shops could open at the shopping center and cuba went to court to prove that it wasn't a sandwich shop and at one. I wonder if it's still there. I don't know so. What do you think. I'm a great is a burrito. A sandwich debate you that this is settled. Law any story about the The definition of a burrito that starts with a judge in massachusetts is immediately saw who knows better about massachusetts exact and a judge a judge in massachusetts no that the entire judicial system is well known for its sort of common sense and there's no absurdities and then add to that that this is essentially zoning or a legal thing of like what kind of business is allowed to operate and what kind of environment and that's also incredibly politically and culturally fraught that this decision by this judge in massachusetts is like the nine hundred reason thing on the list that's contributing to this whether or not a burrito is actually a sandwich and there's so many other things that are above that and and you know i don't know what the deal with these judges elected or appointed and how much political power there is in this town and all the judges and who knows the right people who owned the shopping center and how much cuba has contributed to the you know the political candidates campaigns like it's just by such mass right that said i mean the right call burritos not a sandwich right but like i feel like the cultural blind spot of the lawyer who wrote up the con- the whatever the rule was it said no sandwich shops. They deserve to be punished for their narrow minded. You know new england thinking of like sandwich shop. I don't want one of those sandwich shops here in. Think of all the other kinds of things that they would find justice objectionable as a sandwich shop that do not in fact sandwiches. I like a hot dog stand. There would really have been some issues there. The judge probably would have ruled. That hot dog is the sandwich just because the judges familiar with hot dogs. But you know so there are so many different things so much more in the world of you know quick service fast food than sandwiches. Oh by the way. I update this shop closed and moved to north borough. So it's not in shrewsbury anymore but the pinera still there so panara wins in the end won its battle. It's cruel battle of attrition with yoga wise panera. Making no other sandwich shops. A part of its lease with the center right like. That's that's the part that gets me is is. Are you afraid of other sandwich shops. Are you afraid of subway. pinera Are you frightened of jersey. Mike's business will take any opportunity to eliminate preemptively limited. Any competition i thinks is the owner of the center so excited that there's gonna be a pair there that they are like i don't care we never need another sandwich. Pinera does have a lot of places around here. And maybe they got you know paying a lot for for the lease or whatever but the the the the shortsightedness of pinera thinking only sandwich shops competition. They deserve to be punished. Cuba didn't make a go of it. Like are many other options. Many of the things that could compete with narrower per narrow can only sees only compete with us as another sandwich shop. That's not true. People eat all sorts of things for lunch. That's what i hear robot.
People Thrive, Companies Thrive Podcast: The importance of core values
"This is dawn Schuler certified trainer and business consultant at Schuler group with the people thrive companies thrive podcast. An exercise and activity. We take some of our clients through is to clarify and even discover the core values of the organization, and this is important for so many reasons it can help direct particular path it can help determine if they have the right people in the right seats. It can help them as they're hiring to better message. What they stand for who. They're looking for who would be a good fit. It helps create an mold a positive and more intentional company culture. And really, honestly the list just goes on and on. And you see core values in some companies, though have them written on the walls in the reception area in a place where all the employees ease and clients and customers can see what the company stands for you might find it on their website. I always at there's ever a website that I'm on for a company, and I see something that says, you know, our values and there's a link I absolutely go and look because I wanna see what are the values of this organization. This company that I'm considering doing business with whether it's Panara to get lunch or whether it's a larger company that we might need bigger services from. Again, it's really important, and it's really important that you and your executive leadership team. Become clear on these core values. If again, you don't already have them established. And and if they are established I would say go back and look at what what your core values of your company are when they were established was that ten years ago. Twenty one hundred do they still hold true today and are the individuals in the organization holding true to those core values? And then going back if you don't if your organization does not have your core values, the organizations core values that is then it really is important to discover what they are as it. Just. As I mentioned it helps in so many ways, but it can really cut through the clutter more quickly to say, do we even want to engage in this particular opportunity or venture while let's run it through the filter of our core values, sometimes it may be an obvious misalignment. And so then the easy answer is no this is not a venture or an opportunity that is appropriate for us. I do wanna share with you what our core values are at the Schuler group as well. As how we use those values. And they're not necessarily in any particular order, obviously, I have to list them and talk about them in some linear order, but it's it's not a particular hierarchy that one is more important than the other. So the first one that I will mention his everybody thrives, and this looks like everyone internally in the company as well. As the customers in clients, we serve we believe that everybody should thrive. And that means so many different things in shows up. So many different ways it's happiness in the work that they do on the employee side. It's having having abundance in. That's another one I'll get to that one in a minute. But that that thriving is is is about feeling happy and fulfilled, an an having all the resources, whether that's a great salary training support at work. So that they are thriving. Then of course, we want that for our customers and clients and one of the ways. We delivered that is through one of our other core values, which is extreme service. I didn't just want excellent service. I wanted extreme services the CEO and founder of the Schuler group. I got to to pull for extreme over excellent. And it's about I want our customers clients to absolutely feel incredibly well-served. We've even had one of our customers tell us. She was actually talking about us to to someone else. And we happen to be in the room. And she said, you know, the Schuler group delivers the best customer service I've ever had. And and I heard that an I probably took it in one ear and some of it went out the other, and then we were at an event sometime later, and I said something like Marie says that we deliver some of the best customer service. She's ever had. She said, no, that's not what I said. I said. You deliver the best customer service of ever had senior experienced and that took me aback in extremely pleasant way. Right. We've had other customers tell us. Yes. We we get the your value is extreme service. And remember there's that everybody thrives. So it's not serve the customer to the detriment of yourself. But it's how can you serve the customer to the best of your ability, which is going to bring up another core value while at the same time feeling like you are thriving while you are helping the customer and client thrive. And then that excellence do the best job possible. That's a the third of our five core values. No matter what it is. Whether it's calling someone on the phone to confirm an appointment, whether it's sending an Email, and even if you have to just dash it off very quickly, but still making sure that you're communicating with the person on the other end of that appropriately. According to the way, they like to be communicated with their personality type their values all that. That there's no I mean, there is sometimes we're good enough is good enough. But in the work that we do we want excellence do the best job possible. And sometimes yes, does that mean going above and beyond? Absolutely. Maybe that's part of what folds into that extreme service. Another value of ours is absolute integrity. We want to do. And we train our people this way as well that you do the right thing. It doesn't matter whether there's some wiggle room. It doesn't matter whether it's legal to do it a certain way is it the right way to do. It is it important. Two. To maintain that level of integrity. And we believe we believe it does. And that's why it's not just integrity or high integrity. But it's absolute integrity. We're not perfect. We know that and we don't hold ourselves to to standards of perfection, but it means to be conscious and intentional. And when you know what the right thing is to do the new do the right thing. My auntie Lou has a lovely quote. Did the best you could with what you had at the time. When you knew better you did better. And that that really encapsulates that core value for us when you knew better you did better. So when your consciousness attentional, new know, what's right? You do. What's right? And then the last Cordell, you that I wanna share with you is take responsibility. And I've talked about that idea of responsibility in other episodes, and it's not simply just mouthing the words and the phrase, I take responsibility, but it also means dealing with hopefully graciously with the consequences positive or negative of your actions. So it's not just simply paying lip service to that. I take responsibility or responsibility is mine. Okay. What does that really mean? Because when it comes down to it, and there's causing affect taking responsibility. Means you understand that the effect is due to your choices. And boy, this this comes up in a lot of places right because we can always justify an excuse and blame and that is not taking responsibility. It doesn't mean that there couldn't be factors that caused a certain situation. But it means that you say, yes, there were these factors. And here's what I still chose to do and that resulted in. XYZ that's truly taking responsibility is. So you can see how a lot of these. We've in an out from one another that they're not these separate little entities or planets. They all they all affect one another and they support one another. And sometimes it might even well is this is this what I should be doing. Or is this the right thing? Well, run it through that system of the core values, and maybe how one core value might than shed some light on another core value. I said I would share some ways that we use these these core values in our company. So first of all they're listed on our website. And they are part of every proposal that we send to an organization when we're submitting a proposal. They are part of our weekly strategy meeting for the executive team. And actually we start that meeting out with a recap of our core values what we used to do is. We used to look at the previous week and say, okay, how did our core values show up, but I have to admit on Monday, and I've already had a weekend. And I'm already thinking about the week coming up. I have to really think hard, and it started to feel a little cumbersome and not joyful and fun to look at. How did our values show up last week? Sometimes we have examples, but I didn't want that to be a tedious process. I wanted this to be easy, and therefore helpful. So now what we do at the beginning of our meetings is instead of looking backwards. We look forward and say, okay. Here's here's what each of us has coming up this week. Not from a you know at two o'clock. I'm doing this Senate three thirty I'm doing that. But just bigger things and say, how can we make sure that our values show up in that? The core values also are part of our hiring process again as if you've listened to some of my other episodes, especially the right people in the right seat, you now that I believe you hire the right person before you hire for the right seat. So therefore, you're looking at the fit of the individual with the organization rather can that individual do the duties that this position requires so we first screen for fit with the organization, and so some of our process has to do with. Here's here our core values. How do you see yourself fitting into this organization with regard to those core values? It's a little bit more than just that. But that is a place that we start. And again, when you have that when you have this this framework it guides so many things hiring. Analyzing the people you have in your organization analyzing particular choice. Trying to figure out if an opportunity revenge as right? That's part of that looking at a choice that's in front of you just on a bigger scale. There are so many places that it really helps an organization to define those core values. So I hope you found this helpful and valuable, and if your organization needs help uncovering or even kind of putting your own the core values through through a test to see if they really are the right ones for your organizations. We would be happy to consult with you on that. This is one of our favorite things to do. And you can find more over at WWW dot the Schuler group LLC dot com. Until next time may use thrive.
Blue Jackets Bow Out
"The. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don league-record and welcome to the Tuesday vision of games conduct. Don, league-record, let's dive into last night the Columbus. Blue jackets run comes to an end as they lose to the Bruins three nothing. Three straight losses for Columbus. After taking a two one series lead, Boston credit and took a Rask as well. You know, all this talk about the wildcard teams and the great performances by Brodsky and Martin Jones and certainly would grew Bowers doing in Colorado, and who can really forget what Curtis mcelhinney is done. Specially in the latter stages of the series against the islanders, and of course, Bishop and Bennington with the Saint Louis Dallas series, but took harass those experience of the goaltenders left in the playoffs stole last night's game. He was just absolutely spectacular in a game that I thought the blue jackets thoroughly outplayed, Boston outshot them thirty nine to twenty nine, but the turning point in this one really several of them was the fact that the blue jackets oath. For four on the power play multiple moments in which they could have gotten back into the game scored the first goal of the game. Just could not get it done could not get that power play goal. When it was the most important specially in that second period Pasternak takes tripping penalty to forty two blue jackets can't score Marsh and the slashing penalty nine twenty two could not score. The controversial Charlie McEvoy hit on Josh Anderson in nineteen forty carries over a minute and forty seconds to the third period. Can't score Nordstrom slashing penalty of four forty eight. Could not score four straight power play opportunities for the Columbus. Blue jackets, no goals, and at any moment that could been the turning point of the game. And as far as the McEvoy hip is concerned. Now, clearly you look at it. That's an intent to injure, and I love Charley McEvoy I've gotten Noam, but you could see the look on his face that he was expecting to get booted from that game. He left his feet the head was targeted. And I know that Paul Stewart carry Frazier on twin? Hitter. We're trying to defend the officials in this game saying you gotta get a break. It's a penalty. But certainly Kelly Sutherland through his arm up knew it was a penalty, but they got together and without the benefit of replay. It's hard really to determine whether there was intent there to injure the NHL needs to come up with a rule in those situations when there is a distinct hit to the head where it's clear there's got to just be that automatic five minute major because if you really wanna protect heads if you really wanna stop head injuries. That's gotta be the terrent because you're never gonna be able to get in somebody's brain to determine whether it was intentional or not Charlie mcevoy's, not a dirty player. He didn't mean to hit Josh Anderson in that fashion. But he did it. He hit him in the head. He targeted the head was really the only part of the body that was hit by the shoulder of McEvoy. So to me McEvoy should have gotten kicked out of the game should've gotten a five minute major. It doesn't matter because the blue jackets couldn't score at any of the power plays that they had. So it's hard to say that. That was really deterrent from the blue jackets winning the game because granted five and majors lot better than a two minute minor. But when you go four on the power play you can't score on the power play. You know, you hit the blue jackets you out face off, the blue jackets you out shot of the Bruins. I mean, and yet you still lose the game three nothing. I don't think Columbus has a kick coming plus three consecutive losses towards said they were going back to Boston for game seven they do not. He was kinda Kurt in his press conference. And certainly Brad Marchand at the end of the game, very courtesy saw the interview which sports net. It was ridiculous. Don't don't agree to the interview. Then if you're gonna say ten words in in three questions, I mean, you embarrass yourself you embarrassed the organization and the fans want to hear from you. I mean, I think you're a guy that is a bit of a dirty player. You're not my favorite player by any stretch of the imagination. But I'm sure the Bruins fans love you. So to give such Kurt answers to the questions than just don't do the interview. That's what I would suggest any player that if you're going to embarrass the interviewer by. Just answering one or two words to a question. Then why even bother doing the interview in the first place, but with all the talk of four wildcard teams going to the conference final. Now, Boston the second best team in the regular season moves on to the conference final for the first time since twenty thirteen and they will take on the Carolina Hurricanes that you'd be terrific series. As you've got the favourite versus a clear underdog. And we'll see Carolina can keep this wave going and see a Boston can't go back to the Stanley Cup. Final avalanche. Stay alive with an overtime victory in game six over the sharks. Final score there. Four to three the concerning thing for the avalanche. Certainly having to play on the road for a game seven tomorrow, but you had three separate one goal leads and could not hold onto any of them. Because you saw it where Joe skits the first goal four oh two into the second period after a scoreless first and then Vlasic who's been so good for this team defensively. Now starting supply some offense ties it comp. Who's been great in this series? Scored his third goal late in the second period. Only for burns to score with ten seconds to go in that period. The tide again comfort gets a second of the game. Only to see it get tied by plastic again with his second and you end up going overtime. And it was landed Scott, two minutes and thirty two seconds in the scores. And whenever I think of Gabriel landed Scott, and he's kind of got lost in the shuffle with the avalanche because certainly McKinnon's had a tremendous postseason, and you know, mccart coming in fresh from college. When there's so many good young players Rantanen, certainly Atlanta. Scott kind of gets lost the captain of the team. He was given the captaincy almost as an infant coming into the league. He's such a good player that sometimes not that you forget about them. But maybe you don't listen as high as really you should when you talk about the town on that avalanche team. And he gets the game the game winning goal in overtime. And now we got to go to a game seven for San Jose. And I remember somebody asking me on Twitter not too long ago about the old. Older players on the on the on the sharks. And certainly like the Bruins is a lot more veterans on the sharks and the Bruins than you. Do have say on the avalanche for sure of the Carolina Hurricanes for the most part. You've got a lot of young players on those teams that are really driving the situation outside of Justin Williams in Carolina, those games gonna pile up even to San Jose advance of the conference final fourteen games. They would have played now the stars. And the blues they're gonna play their fair share games as well. Both of them when six in the first round and they got a game seven tonight. So a lot of games have been played. But maybe Carolina sits there and lurking that because of the sweep maybe a little bit more rested in Boston because Boston had to play a couple more games than certainly they get to the Stanley Cup. Final know how many games will San Jose and Colorado have to played to be able to get to that to get that level in San Jose already knows that if they advanced they will have played more games than anybody fourteen and with big with bodies that are a little banged up especially Joe Thornton, you know, how much. Much work will Pete the bore have to do if they revive game seven to just physically get them ready for that conference bottle. But again, they'll have the benefit of playing teams will also be playing a game seven tonight stars. And the blues that's alone game tonight. Of course, the game seven for the avalanche and the sharks will be coming up tomorrow stars. And the blues to me, I said it all along. I thought these worse than evenly played series. Now, we've seen some if not blowouts not one goal games down the stretch. They have mental one goal games. But you know, one team blows the other team out. And then the same thing happens in reverse the next time they play these are two evenly matched teams. It makes complete sense that it's going to go seven games, and I would expect the classic tonight. Now, the blues her home, I believe the blues are the better team. But I think bishops the better goal tender, and he certainly didn't catch the break. We talked about with EJ yesterday taken that shot off the collarbone and being down and then giving up what would what was insurance goal on Sunday to make it three one. But I think the blue. Whose are the overall better team if Bennington doesn't shrink in playing in? You know, his first game seven know Bishop has been there and done that go back to twenty fifteen and those huge wins about it's in Square Garden in the conference final against the Rangers winning that game seven shutout fashion. If you remember to advance to the Stanley Cup final where they lost to the Blackhawks so a little bit more experience with Bishop. But I think the blues overall of the better team. So I think we're looking at a classic here. It could be fun. And really all these teams that are left right now have to believe they can win a Stanley Cup. So certainly congratulations to all the teams prince two surviving. Congratulations to Boston for advancing Carolina. And we'll see what happens with the game sevens. Coming up in the Western Conference want to get back to the blue jackets for just a second because we did touch on their loss. Three nothing. I think it's going to be a fascinating off-season. I tweeted this out after the game last night. Probably one of the most interesting off seasons we've seen in a long time. And certainly the most interesting in the history of the blue jackets franchise, it looks like it's a fatal. Complete. Now, the John Davidson is going to go onto the Rangers as their president. So there'll be a change there. Do you? Let Tortorella go. Do you let the general manager go an, and I don't know how you do any of this. When you're in such a state of flux with all the UF as that you have so. I don't know if you let those guys do the work. And then if you lose them what I'm gonna do fire them the of the draft coming up. I don't know if you can make any changes to the front office considering that the teen did make it out of the first round in in spectacular fashion sweeping Tampa mean they went up against a better team in Boston and Boston, they give them everything. They could they didn't go to a game seven, but they outplayed them in game six, and you know, I I know John Tortorella didn't wanna talk about sensing any accomplishment. He said don't go there. But I think if he even he if he stepped back during the course of the summer and looked at what the blue jackets -ccomplish that maybe not him personally who's wanna Stanley Cup. He's gone to a conference final before. But for that franchise for that. Bam base to experience that kind of Iran, even though it came up a little short than what they thought especially when they're up two games to one against Boston. They have to feel that sense of accomplishment, but a Panara and goes Ross ski goes to Shane goes, you gonna have to start all over. But I mean, you're gonna start completely over. Over and just fire everybody and then start over. But how do you do that now? And then what you bring in a new general manager to try to convince those guys stay, and then if those guys decide not to to stay and they want to leave, but they don't make that decision, obviously until July first you then get fire everybody on July burst. And after you've already had this current regime make the draft picks and then have a new regime try to go chase other free agents. They're really in a state of flocks here and with Davidson being gone as a major hockey guy in that organization. It'll be interesting to see how they handle this. And it just comes down to did they do enough with this Ron to convince Panara n- and Bob Ross key to stay. I mean, forget to Shane you went out and acquired him. I think half knowing he wasn't gonna come back design. Joe I think they can keep but those two in particular your best forward, you're all world goaltender. They walk out the door that's difficult to replace. And you wanna feed off the momentum? And that you created this year, but it all hinges on what they decide to do. And it looks like they're going to be a packaged deal. Both are going to stay or both are gonna go. I'm not saying that they're both gonna go to the same team if they leave. But it does seem like they're packaged deal that they're both stay or though both go if they both walk out the door. Those are two significant bodies are leaving your organization it's going to be tough for them to be able to handle that. And we'll see what direction they go. It would be a shame. If that whole thing got blown up because I do think that they won over a lot of fans there's a lot of excitement with hockey in Columbus. You saw that generating over the last couple of years, they just couldn't stay healthy. They finally put it together. And would hate to see them have to start all over again. I think those fans probably deserve a little bit more than that. But you know, what those guys worked to become free agents, and they deserve to go where they wanna go. Let's hear from you at Donald Gregg a hashtag game is conduct. Chris says, hi, Don, if the Bruins end up winning the Stanley Cup could we then point to Rask stopping Jenner on the penalty? Schott is the turning point in the Cup. Ron. Yeah. That's probably it. Right up to. In the series, and that was a huge huge moment. And even even the goal that they scored after blowing the lead back on Saturday. I mean, it kinda got lost in the shuffle. Because of what happened last night? But in a lot of people thought it was a foregone conclusion that the the series was over Boston's up three one there's less than what eight minutes left in the third period on Saturday. So it looks like it was going to be a blow out. And then you wonder what's going on in Zingel and Kurgan score back to back goals. And you've got six minutes to go. It's all of a sudden a three game. And if that game goes to overtime and then Columbus finds a way to win you think of the momentum shifted would have taken place their in game five Pasternak's scores. And they win that game with a minute. Twenty eight seconds to go in regulation, and then don't look back and they win yesterday and win the series completing, you know, three consecutive wins to be able to do it. And also the fact that Pasternak's scored he woke up I mean. Score two goals on Saturday. He was kind of nowhere in these playoffs considering the kind of regular regular season that he had him. Waking up Rask starting to play abroad ski which clearly happened over the last three games all major turning points for sure and Rask. Is that forgotten guy? He's the best goaltender. I think. Laughed. I think the Bruins are the best team laughed. And who knows with all the upsets and all the underdog conversation. We could still very well see the sharks and the Bruins and the Stanley Cup final. And a lot of people not the beginning of these playoffs. And a lot of people at the beginning of the season would not have been surprised if that had been your pick David says you said last night, this might be the most important off season and blue jackets history. I'm assuming towards job is safe after the uncertainty when it looked like they would miss if you're the GM who do you prioritize and getting back, Bob pioneer and or bowl. I mean, it's got to be both. Right. I mean if I had to. Pick one of the two because there's such a full off. Right. I don't know Corp. Aqap skis their their their backup goaltender. That's obviously not somebody. I think you're building around. You're gonna go find another goaltender, but Pinera n- is Panara is such a good player. It's really point David because I think there are package deal. Anyway, I think if you convince won the stay the other will stay with the agents situation, but God panorama so good. So I would probably say Panara, and if I put a gun to my head. They're a Robert says ironically tonight is probably the most crucial game for Rangers. This year of stars win. Rangers will have three first round picks in two thousand nineteen. That's right because of the zuccarello deal if Dallas made it to the conference final another pick. They would have got another first round pick it Dallas one but Dallas didn't win. So. Yeah. That'd be something to grab that third. First round pick a team, that's clearly rebuilding. So a lot of ranger fans need to pay attention to tonight's game. I think you're gonna see a lot of people that arrange your fans watching that game tonight with great anticipation and rooting for the stars. Plus Zubi great story to see him in the conference final. John says what are your thoughts on lung Quist comments about the uncertainty of ending his career with the Rangers? Does this lead way into a possible trade situation or is it just causing? Unrealistic speculation will Larry Brooks talked to him. There was a there was an article from Sweden where he said he could see himself finishing his career somewhere other than New York. But then he talked to Larry Brooks and kind of refuted that and said he has no intention of leaving. Here's the elephant in the room. John his contract is up in two years. All right. So Hank may wanna finish his career with the Rangers. It may not be up to him. Because when those two years are over, and he's thirty seven years old and some of these young kids that are expected to be the next generation of goaltender for the Rangers your given and the Russian who they just signed to a contract, they're probably going to be ready to play. And if so when this contract is up, I'm not sure the Rangers are going to want to resign him because I think these guys are gonna be ready to play sixty seventy games year. So there's a possibility he'll be a free agent. If he wants to continue to play it's probably going to be elsewhere. So I don't look at it as well. The Rangers will probably trade him. I think the Rangers wanna keep him for the length of his contr. Tracked until these kids are ready. And then when his contract is up he'll make a decision by then he would have won over five hundred games. I would think because he's what you know, fifty one away from five hundred. So I would think over the next couple of years barring injury. He'd have it outstanding shot at that. I know he wants to win a Stanley Cup. But I'm not really sure it's going to be up to him. I don't I really don't know how the Rangers re-sign him after these two years are over with the talent. They already have signed under contract in the minor leagues and Wicky or give already on their roster. I would think he would probably have to think about going somewhere else. A lot of people talking about the bad. Call on the McEvoy. I agree that was a bad. Call should have been a major Kevin reiterates. He says, hi, hey, NHL way to blow that call in the Columbus. Boston game that's a game conduct and putting a guys future on the line. Mcevoy should be in the locker room for good. Listen, I agree. Now. I don't know if it affected the outcome of the game. Because there were so bad on the power play. But you would like to see the major and plus mcevoy's pretty important. So he would have been gone for the rest of the game. And this is not going to make anybody happy. I would fully expect McEvoy to be suspended for game one of the conference final. But that benefits the hurricanes that does no good for the blue jackets because then not playing in the game for sure. Tan March Shelby says the line. You were thinking of was the BBC line. Not the CBC line the line of Battaglia Brindamour and Cole. That's why we couldn't figure it out. Thank you. That was from the podcast yesterday. I remember cover in that series. And for some reason CBC was in my head because a Canada b right? The BBC line because Battaglia was second in points on the two thousand and two hurricanes team. And of course, rod Brindamour is killing it as the head coach with the Carolina Hurricanes, and they're the hurricane said who would have thought with all the talent. And all the stories that would be the hurricane to be sitting there waiting for everybody else to get ready for the conference finals a good job out of all those teams. So the east is done. We've got Boston and Carolina the west will be settled by tomorrow. We've got a couple of game seven's a game seven tonight. We've got a game seven tomorrow. So we had three game sevens. In the first round two game sevens here on the second round. So that's not bad five game sevens or ratty through the first two rounds of the plow. So eight o'clock tonight eastern time NBC sports net. ABC's obviously up in Canada for the blues and the stars from Saint Louis and then tomorrow, it'll be a nine o'clock start for San Jose. So that'll be an early start out in California, six o'clock on the west coast sharks and the avalanche and the same carriers NBC sports net in the states in the CBC up in Canada. So will cap game seven of stars blues. Preview avalanche sharks game seven tomorrow. You want to get in touch with me at down the Greg hashtag game conduct. The best way to do that talk to you again tomorrow. This was the Tuesday edition of game has conduct. Turn into the game misconduct podcast looking for more dumb McGregor. Hear him on the Michael can show weekdays from three to seven PM on ninety eight point seven ESPN, a New York and worldwide on the ESPN app. I don't forget to subscribe to the game misconduct podcast on the ESPN app. Google play music apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Merchant of munchies thrive out west that very well may determine its fate for as they say as california goes so goes the country this week on boys insomnia cookies. Welcome to the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm nick weicker. Along with my co-host mac and cheese jones the spoon man mike mitchell how nation gin right into it wives low patriots themed roasts there. That was fry. Defrayed us Who writes what's so do the patriots. Yeah this rose socks. So do the patriots. Where's this guy from. I don't know asian. i'm coming for you're going to kick your ass. Wherever you're i'm gonna i'm gonna find ya i'm gonna kick your ass. You don't need to go net. You're asking by this guy But hey if you're listening out there you're saying i'm going to go there and get my ass kicked. Yeah what do you think's gonna happen. Everyone listening out there roast bloom energy mail dot com and next month is the spookiest of months october sending spooky mitch roasts scaring all month long row. Spoon manage email dot com. Let me guess they call me a fucking jacqueline and head or some bullshit That's home man. Hey how pump. Cows pumpkin man or some bullshit. I i you know. Don't send them in. If you send in pumpkin man. I will use it on the show. So that's just a guaranteed in what we're getting inbox. First pumpkin man. That was an old. That was an old story up. in ithaca. There was a pumpkin man who ran who who ran through the woods. Old pumpkin man. Are you sure it wasn't a david pumpkins. i wish. I could remember as fuck in catchphrase. I think it was any questions any questions. Yeah that's what it is you. What dave oh. My god the doorbells working again. And that's what that sound was. I don't know if you heard i didn't. We didn't hear it resigned. Pumpkins and then it recoiled. I mean a big loud blair after a big loud honking sound after. We're talking about david s pumpkins. i feel like he's i feel like he's here. Oh man be careful. Wasn't there was a david s pumpkins halloween special to right. Yeah they made an animated short khomeini franchise out of it. Well bring him back back. David s bumpkins. Why are you doing. I'm doing well now. Mitch texted me rather cryptically before the show. I don't know if there's going to happen or not but we can say it anyway. That i had a surprise for you today. Is that still true. Do you have a surprise for me or is that going to be on the back burner for now away. It seems you look at that text quickly. You think it'd be a message from jigsaw something. But it's for me friend mitch. Porridge for durch great. I am ready this key. Out of my stomach jigsaw. Has that surprised me. You've already taken the key out of your stomach. we'll talk. I felt in their body. Took it up. Jigsaw gone now. Now it's spiraled from the book of saw Chris rock did you watch. I watched it. Did you like it is not the best. It's not the best saw. But i mean like what is the best saw against. You could also ask. Yeah with those horror franchises. it's kind of almost like more is more. It's like they just kind of keep making them whether it's good or bad it's just like well. I'm glad this just they. Just keep going with these. Because you know sometimes they'll come out with one or it'll be like what was it like the second week g. movie everyone was like the second g. Movie is awesome. Yeah people like the second week g movies. The second is good. You know what. I think they need us. You know what i think. They need to make more sequels of pumpkin man. Well he's got an animated special. So like i said dispute nation and here is a little drop our no doboy butter. Wow good answer good answer. I love beads. I want the butter there is nothing better than fodder. Mutter is the best ingredients. What is butter the butter different kinds of beans. Wow how do you rate your beans runner be round being me. Beans eight refried being cheese rabin head. I want the bata. I want the butter motor butter. You team fan myself water. Slide answer a slight border. I want the butter. Is it just me or did that. Draw make us seem kinda cool. Was that as a surprise. No what the fuck drop was a surprise. I don't know hey. This is my first drop sampling. This the song butter by a tribe called quest. Sincerely hope you enjoy it. I had fun making. It settled to my band team. Vom all my love. Yuck i think on. I can't read. Yeah yuck why. Ach y why okay. That's cool name team. L- like team vomit. Hope vom mean vomit. It can but not to say like it could be an acronym. Vm could stand for something. I feel like that's like a. I feel like god going to sound like a an an eighty stand up but i was going to be like it. Sounds like a lady in the club saying vom you know what i like. It sounds like sounds like a young woman. Says yes. I guess about to sign up and what i love about. Our guests is that she always seems the closest to be ready to just bail at any minute. Like it's always feels like she just ready to leave the podcast and normally we've been in person so that's been a little bit awkward but maybe today actually happens just shuts off or webcam shit. Vomit isn't isn't that isn't that. Isn't that shorthand. I think i've heard vomit short for vomit. You don't let's get our guest in here and we can litigate this and talk about this week's chain very very excited to have her back and actor and comedian from ap bio and work in progress. Mary sewn is here. Hi mary there. And i just wanted to say as a young woman in the club. We are always yelling. Cool things bomb. What's not an acronym for all of us young ladies club always. Here's where i this is. This is how i experience. I walk in the club. I say hello ladies and then all the ladies go vom the yellow right vom. It's like it's like the stephen merchant. Hello ladies you're saying hello ladies. But they're not saying hi back they're saying vom Deep cut deep funny. Show honey show people now even merchants show. Of course they do. You know what stephen merchant. He's a merchant of laughs. That's true there's that bomb behavior that you're talking about phone. If he was a merchant he'd be he'd be a merchant of laughs wag right slinging chuckles at the bizarre about maria. I'm curious about over the weekend talking about this nonsense all day. But let's get business. I'm curious over this This the you know interminable period that was twenty twenty through. I guess through now and obviously everyone's lives have changed like it. How has that affected your diet like have you been. I've been cooking more. You've been getting more delivery. Like what have you been doing. Oh boy i would say even in that short period. I have gone to a real roller coaster so i was one of those people at the grocery store that psych. I must get all canned foods. I must prepare to really hunker down. I would say put on a sassy ten a put on a sassy ten right at the beginning of and then i got myself a pellet on jonah balancing now but i would say my Candy addictive behavior really soared through the riley interesting. What what do you do candy wise. Well i've been getting the families just for me of peanut dem's also i believe i've said on this pod before. I love a rips boys in the refrigerator for like an hour perfect And i also have gotten really fruit. Roll ups wow i love. I love for roll ups. I love i. Also love like the trader. Joe's like like fruit strips. You know how they have like those little fruit strips sales. Pretty too yeah. The text goes off lincoln fruit leather. Yeah no you're right. I get some trader joe's their equivalent of the flaming hot cheetos and they were like baked and there and i was like these just want flaming hot cheetos. Like i get that. These are their attempt that and this is probably marginally healthier but at this point. What am i doing and i. I'm not a fruit leather person. But i think i would. I would probably opt for the real thing over the trader joe's equivalent mary. I believe that. I believe that you're saying bomb in the club because you similarly said core which i thought was you know that i've also been working out teen games over that one a ez's the ladies in the club do not wanna just bombs vom reaction from. How's everyone doing with teen. When i walked in would say that. And then they'd actually vomit. That would be the comet. What was your go-to core snack. Wow thank you for asking. I you know boy i have. I did like you just a roller coaster. Recently hit my heaviest. I've been in a while. And then i you know. I've been slightly recovering from that ninety percent of that weight. Isn't that tank gas yours by the way. So i i i like you i got the peleton and i was using the peleton a lot in got it this year and abusing a lot this year and then i kind of like my gym reopened and everyone's masked up and so i've been going to the gym more and doing less of the The peleton either way exercise. I found from being so inert for so much of the year outside of walking for basically all twenty twenty. I was basically just walking exercise now. I've got the peleton and i'm going to the gym. Isla gained weight. Because i was just eating so much to compensate for all the calories. I was burning so it was totally. Like yeah was just and also i felt like it earned garbage so is so much trash. Big sara lee from your peleton seat After you started going and the ladies are bad mitch. Were you snacking on over quarantine. Why is you know it's funny with me because as a man a big man who was bigger than you instill throws fat jokes your way. I am not a big snacker. i don't i don't i don't snack you mitch i i kind of i'm with you. I'm kind of more team meal. But it will be usually kind of modest. Unless although i will do the late night i will do the late night. Just like having a bunch of food l. Before i go to bed which is really really like. It's like the worst fucking possible time need a bunch of garbage and that's what. I'm most likely to do it like that. The whole bag at like eleven thirty and then went to bed. That i mean that that is. That's my issue. Is that like instead of a snack. I'll have like two cheeseburger meal from mcdonald's which is right. It's like it's a meal that's another thing too. I feel like sairan popeye Mcdowell's get myself a devils breakfast and tell me it's not good. I understand it's all processed trash but no it doesn't taste good. Mcdonald's is always it always scratches the edge. I've been eating vegetarian this year. So i've had a lot less of it but i but i always love it go i I was thinking this last night. Just like bourdain would be like every time i come at not recipe st anthony bourdain but like every time i come into los angeles going in and out burger and like so many people were like my first stop in los angeles in bergen. I'm like mcdonalds. Is better than in an outburst. It is it just is better. I got mcdonald's last night. I got to cheeseburger actually got to double cheeseburger meal. And that's not a meal. I just got that made it a meal fries. Drink and a double cheeseburger mill but in and out burger. Just make mcdonalds is better. I know you love in and out burger. But mcdonald's better i we're so how stone but also i will say that even if you prefer donaldson and out burger which honestly a fine opinion i like. Then that's totally fine but you can get mcdonald's anywhere and if you if you're in and out burger is like it's just clustered in a few western states and even there there's like two in colorado and anytime they've tried to expand texas. They've like it's not really working. Everyone loves their water. Burger there but if you're in california there's there's a there's a great in and out and it's right by lax. Yeah but mcdonald's is just it's the king it's the king for reason it's the battle of mcdonald's look i'm not gonna. I'm not gonna say that. Mcdonald's is bad to prove some point. I love mcdonald's. It's great mary. What are your. What's your go to at mcdonald's. Say no you're fan mitch. I loved for her his for a while. They're still back into love to fillet o. Fish and a little bit odd. Yeah a lot of my friend greg. In quincy shields. E why is he cousin greg. He loves he loves filet of fish and there was a big talk about this. There's like die hard. Filet of fish. Fans and i just never got started on the flatfish really when i was younger so it so i never and i and i'm a fried fish fan. But what got you went. It was something that you had as a kid or is it like like how did you. How did you become a fan of the flail fish. Think it's probably because. I exhausted the rest of the menu so hard i was like. I can't do let me yeah probably healthier. The also i like. I like the chicken nuggets but only if you can get the sweeten sour and also the hot mustard combo without those losses. I'm not interested but that's good. That hot mustard great. Yeah and it's. It's one that i hadn't used in a while and i went back to it and i was like damn. This is so good this more often but then also. Why am i getting mcdonald's so much that was that was my. That was my 'cause. I got my meals delivered. I was doing like healthy meal delivery during quarantines didn't stop but i would have a day off like my sundays. It was six days. So i'd have a day off and that was my day and i would and this is what i would do my cheetah i would get a meatball sub from all about the bread in the afternoon. Let's go when it was. It was fucking. It's so good it really is great with side of mariner us. And then i got the hawaiian luau barbecue chips and And an a mexican coca-cola. And then i would get for dinner so this is like all this dieting for the week was just destroyed on this day. This is what i get for. Dinner can't a number six from wendy's large with coke and a dave single with cheese. That would be the so. That's that that was my. That was my cheat day. It was it was it was quite the day but it was also like the only thing that was keeping me happy. In in rate the only thing in team fleming gene favorites sorry spicy chicken and the same question spicy chicken yep spicy chicken meal. I love the spicy chicken sandwich. At wendy's it's fantastic. But why they changed their fries. Do you know about this. Mary's one is changed fries. And i've had the fries. And i don't think that they're good. I think it was bad. Change they've like they've changed their fries for the first for the second time ever they raise your fries. There was one change now like what was it. Seven years ago or eight years ago it was a while back now could even be ten years ago but they changed their fries to add like little like they have like little potato skin on there. Which i don't need i don't need the potato skin i don't need it. Why do you add the potato skin. You don't potato skin and catch-up you dip the fry the golden baked frying to catch up. You don't dip the skin get the skin out of here. Also you and so the new one is like like a crispier texture because so many people are getting wendy's to go like this is the thing with like all fast food places that are there like like the new thing is is that like people really get takeout and it's like yeah no shit but like what does that. We want our try price to travel better and we wanted to stay crispier longer so for me. It just feels like oh so like this is just a chemical equation that you're adding to these fries to make them stay crispy longer and it's they remind me of the burger king fries. Remember burger king like the like the breaded fries. It tastes like that. It feels like they're like a little bit more bread it. I don't i didn't like him. i don't like him is a bad move by wendy's and the idea behind this is just to keep them crispy longer like. Oh you're saying like in transit like if they're being delivered or taken home to go. Is that what you're saying dave. Thomas is rolling around in his grave. It's it's bullshit. Wendy's wendy yourself is rolling around inter bed. I don't know what do i don't know what sequent when your life she's been. Well thank you so much. Wendy's ironic elsa say that's exactly my order. I some reason as an adult. It's just not enough to get that sandwich meal. It has to be an additional something. Oh yeah do you need a little sidekick little sidecar need you need you need. He needs someone like like a what. What's what's what's the movie where they ride where they ride hogs wags wild hogs thinking of. I'm talking to bike cogs too by the way there is. There's a hog movie wild hogs. There is. there is no. it's nicholson. Nicholson and the writer. Easy rider with what's his name. You need to do. Yeah hopper you need. You need hopper. How i need hopper so you need a nicholson to your hopper. You need one. You need it on the side as an adult just a regular meal i i. That's why i do. Think the to cheeseburger from mcdonald's is great but the cheeseburger just as an adult does not satisfying enough. Berg is not enough now. we'll also there versus feels too small to me really. I'm with you but there's a reason like two cheeseburgers. A default meal is because obviously one cheeseburgers is never going to be enough. But i'm i'm with you. It's like lake because the alternative alternatives. What to like. Go large your fries and drink. You might be doing that anyway. But then you start then. Aim almost like that's just empty calories. Almost feel like it's even this is me rationalizing it but i almost feel like it's better just nutritional choice to just have an extra sandwich versus having like the the the hugest fries drink you could have or like what else. Yeah i've been before. I've gotten like a whopper and got like their mozzarella sticks on the side. And i'm just like there's no way this is healthier than just getting like an extra burger. There's just no way. This is at minimum caloric equivalent. And i know what your mcdonald's order is well so i this year. Yeah one cheeseburger dry water. Well why is that water. Even good for mcdonald's and i i tend to lean team big mac. I'm usually big A big mac guy. And if i'm going to get like okay like a four piece nuggets on the side or something if we're going to have a little supplement but i you know i was messing with that too cheeseburger meal for awhile. I'm really into the just like the straight up. Double cheeseburger like like. I'll get a couple double cheeseburgers. It's just like the best like You know combat. I feel like that's like it's perfect form. Where it's got the two slices of cheese. And the to patty's the mic double needs that extra cheese and the also we'll go double quarter pounder with cheese. Sometimes i also think like that's just like a really good double burger and that one is really feeling you usually don't need supplemental sandwich or these motherfuckers back in the sixties fucking rolling up to mcdonald's and ordering single cheeseburgers differ their meals incense peppermint doodoo. Can i get a single cheeseburger. That's fucking bullshit. Why give me one cheeseburger. I'm gonna go chant about lbj to think about how much they were drinking back. Then like one asshole burger is going to soak up. All that gin. I don't think so. Yeah i don't i don't get it. Is those people they get to the place where they're chanting about lbj and it's show jumbo show jumbo hog dog name. I thought i did like it back. It just took me a second because we were talking about portion sizes. So i was thinking like do they want like a larger portion is like okay no you're talking about. Lbj's famously huge penis that he nicknamed jumbo a huge hog. Yeah so he's so he's forgiven your book correct. Did he kill. Jfk is that a conspiracy theory. Isn't it that he got. jfk killed. You don't know this. Oh well no. I mean. I've always heard versions of i guess the versions. I've heard of always been like like you know. Used to implicate kgb or the deep state or cuba. I guess like that. Lbj connection i've seen less explored. But i i'm sure that's a theory if lbj got jfk killed. I'd be so mad at him right now. No what do you do. what's your what's the deal. They can look at this here to lanes forgiven think. Jfk just signed and his mind was blown. I think that's what happened. That's best buy conspiracy. Mary so you're talking candy earlier and i can. I can infer that. You have a bit of a sweet tooth. I'm curious about cookies specifically are you. Are you a cookie monster. I have been of a cookie monster. I used to work at the bubble gum. Shrink company where one of our best selling desserts was a skillet cookie with two scoops of ice cream. Nuts with cream. And i'm not gonna lie. I would eat the ones that came out a little to burn a little under and so again mary. This is i was just a movie the tomorrow war and in my co star was i was his co star. He was leaving the movie. Chris pratt worked at bubba gump. And he was saying the same exact. He was saying the same thing he would. He make some orders or get them wrong so that he could so that he could You could eat whatever people didn't eat but that's this must be a thing that goes on at public. I'm shrimp company. Must be i'm gonna hustle. That goes on. Yeah yeah oh man. I used to order so many sides and chowder. I really pulled one over with a cream. I will say though. I have a bit of a sweet q. Two yup i gotta i gotta cookie a cookie monster to that. Was my favorite sesame. Street will Character for awhile wives. Yeah he's great. I liked grover a lot too but cook. I've just completely remember when you said. I haven't thought about cookie monster. Well he's great. That's more dynamic kind of grover cookie monster dynamic here on the podcast as you go. Yeah i'm happy. You didn't call me. oscar. That's nice of you i i i i love i love i love what am i going to say i was gonna say. I love sesame street. Is that what. I'm about to say i love. I say that. I remember day one about. They fooled they love to claim they did tell his career people love the way he served. Dan strongest. i'd love it. If that was the new springboard that was the new groundlings getting shifted bubblegum. Shrimp company you work. I know what i was gonna say. I was gonna say that. I love a character that loves cookies. Like agree monster. Does i think that's a great thing. Cookies yeah it was. It was funny. I mean we're going to get it in today's episode but cookies. Not like normal thing i snack on. I'm not a big snacker and then when we did episode i was like oh yeah. Cookies are great cookies fun. Love nice warm cookie. How can you go wrong with a nice warm cookie. It's just. There's something that i don't as an adult. I just never eat cookies too much. Big me like milano. You like your fans you will. My grandma used to have the milano The the ones that have got. I can't remember the chocolate in the middle and the two wafers on the outside. Those are milano sir. Okay all right all right. That is just a milano. Okay it's pepperidge farms. Milanov remember what a milano is pepperidge farm members. Mitch doesn't any who is david. Has pumpkins is the pepperidge farm guy. Knew anything is incredible. Are you a pepperidge farm guy. Yeah i do like we did like. I did like pepperidge farms You know the specifically the orange milano we all we would have like to citrus jim. I don't let any don't get the flavor auditor. I like chocolate or double chocolate. The double double dark chocolate. That's i think that's my favorite. So i'm even more fancy boy. They're all good. I even like them at once. But here's the thing. I'll say about cookies because so many of my favorite cookies are like you know just once. My grandma baked was great baker. But the impune my dead grandma. Why didn't know she had passed. And you know what. I'm mad about it. Thanks thank you this is bullshit. So but here's the thing about cookies is they're good like their fresh baked but they're also good package like i like like orios chippewa. Hoy's i like the. I like the pepperidge farm family. I like lake packaged cookies as well. L. shipping you to say it the way you love to say not chips you say chip ahoy which is right right. That is it for me. It would always say grandmother. Please fetch me doubled chocolate milano please. What i say to my grandma my little ask chessman from pepperidge. Yeah dip that coffee haagen dazs ice cream. That's a little slice. I didn't think about that mary. Nice the verve. Pipe should write a song about me and we were nearly chessmen. We'll take a break. We'll be back with more no. Hey it's wider. you know me. I enjoy a nice glass of wine especially literally any time of day or night now. I'm no expert. I like what i like. But i also love. Trying new varieties or varietals wines. My local stores don't carry. That's why i use. 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Campuses It was acquired by the parent company of crispy cream in two thousand eighteen so same corporate ownership and the name. The name insomnia is because most of its stores are open until three a m to cater to that steadying crowd or perhaps that inebriated crowd that is tends to be at colleges. I had anyone had insomnia cookies before. 'cause i know this was a chain that was like kind of you know it's been around since the early two thousands but it really kind of came on the scene in the two thousand ten and it only recently expanded a california so i was aware of it but i'd never had it before this this experience. I've never had any. I've never even heard of it. Wow i had just because it was for the dothan we people who have out with adowa. Thon gave guests some insomnia cookies so so an include my mom in that list and they ate all of them. You got you you bought with our company card cookies your mom and then you gather said it was a gift. This is figuring. This is like my little jigsaw situation. You just figured it out okay. Also i'm writing tricycle right now for people who can't see. I got my mom cookies. Emma knows this i hope. I hope it was a little secret thing that i did on the side. Don't you worry about it. Why 'cause it's all good. So i had them and and i enjoy them quite a bit but why i'll tell you this much. I actually went to a location for this episode. I i went to an actual location up in up in harvard. I was at harvard harvard as they say. Wow there you go. I walked. I walked through the house of harvard and there was like a very simple math equation on a whiteboard. And i put an answer. I put down an answer to it and it was wrong. It was wrong. Professors like this is really easy. Whichever student got this wrong needs to be expelled. So i was. I was up at harvard. I similarly went to a physical location near their whole thing. Is that there. They they offer delivery and they offer either. You know they ship nationwide for one or they offer local delivery. I was like outside of the delivery area. So i went to the lok the location but like their their whole thing is like they're meant to be like. Hey we'll bring you cookies to your door at in the middle of the night like i think that's a big part of their marketing and the avenue locations that that's not open yet but that is soon to open in westwood village which is just south of ucla campus. So like another. You know another college. Attempted targeting a university. But yeah i went to. I ordered with the app and went to pick up a mary. Mary how about you. How did you get your cookies. I read on yelp reviews to saying. Like oh i got there. And they didn't have the sort of chinese. I wanted so like an absolute psychopath. I woke up. And that's the first place i went to. I was probably their first customer person. I did wait outside. The doors wild because also too i had to taste. I know a big part of it is that they are warmed that they're very like warm cookies. So very warm cookies cool. I really want to get the full experience. How i think that's great. I mean. I think i think there is a thing with this place where they make cookies. Then keep them like in like a heating trae so get to get a fresh paste- i mean it is also funny to be to be the first person and insomnia cookies place. Probably doesn't they open. They open like earlier than the cookie. Consumption our right like they open it like you know ten. Am nine or ten am. Do they really early. Yeah they opened pretty early. I think probably because they're like. Oh we'll just. We're going to fulfill our app orders. You know while things are slow await. There's someone here wanting us from the grain. I'm ending one person. I will appreciate you. you go into buffalo. I got way too many items as well. I'm certainly all got way too many cookies because like everything looks good. And it's pretty easy. amount of amount of money. You're spending aside obviously but it's pretty easy to effectively order the entire menu because they have a lot of options. But it's not like they have like a hundred options now. They have like a dozen change different cookies so we got a bunch of them. I guess i guess. Let's just get into it. I'll start with this one. Because i have a feeling that one or both of you also got this and i have thoughts on it and i'm curious about yours but i mentioned i picked up from the west hollywood location. Same one mary went to. I believe the app. I think is really slick. I ordered for the app and then went and picked it up and it was ready right away. It's really well. Package to which i think is to its credit like it was very very easy to tote all the way home and the cookie that that i wanna talk about first. Is the everything bagel cookie. I didn't get it. Why wasn't wasn't available. I'm sad mary. did you get it. You know i did site. We'll let you god damnit. Mr harvard yard everything. Bagel cookie has poppy seeds and onions in a cookie. So it's like everything from an everything bagel including poppy seeds and onions. And then i got mine with the. I got the everything bagel big dipper box. Which comes with a cream cheese icing. That is sweet and then a savory everything seasoning topping on top of that and this was a wild experience like this was not. I expected it to be like an everything cookie but like there. There's a place in. La called cookie good and they have a cheetos cookie and you get the cheetos cookie and it looks cheeto but and it's got like a cheetos flavor but it's also very sweet like it's clearly cookie. Sounds like named to that place cookie. Good that's what i wrote on the whiteboard at harvard. By the way the math equation frankenstein on campus. But my point is that that sounds like it could be savory but it tastes like a cookie this is not necessarily suite at all. At least mine wasn't what did you think mary. Yeah i mean. I was intrigued. And it's funny because the guy was like an i'll pack this one separately because and then he just got to stop talking and i remember opening it and not just by the stinks. It's been a ride. I feel the same way like a bit. Like the girl who tries kumba judd's the whole. Like ooh that thing. I i took a bite and i did not get it with the cream cheese. I wanted to ask you about that. I buy an i was like. Oh god this is terrible. And then i think my brain was doing the sort of like mental math of this is kind of like as if a corn bread was in disc formed and it was a bit of like a sweeter side so it tasted like one of those little bowls. You get from midwestern restaurant But yeah i went from really hating it to being like okay. Well i have the same feeling and nellie felt the same way. It was just kind of like a weird like ride to to consume this. Where it's i. i don't know it's like it. It doesn't taste like a cookie and because it looks like a cookie. Corn bread is a really good comparison because it looks like a cookie. You have your your your expectations. I won't say baked in expectations. Like too much of a prime. So i bail. Wasn't meant to be a pun. I it wasn't meant to be. That's why i was like i was like. Oh you have your expectations baked in. If i say that about a cookie people are thinking. I'm trying to be cute. And i wasn't so i didn't say anything was the right decision but i still am like. I think i would have this. I should. I should just done it this morning because we because we have a couple leftover as i should i. I think i would have this in the morning with a cup of coffee. It's kind of like a weird. Like i is so weird breakfast cookie and regarding the schmear that you mentioned i think it kind of helps it. I mean the cream. Cheese icing is does disarmingly sweet. It definitely makes it a lot more -i but then everything seasoning the extra toppings with it gives a nice little texture. I don't know. I'm i'm. I'm confused but i think i liked it. I think that's my overall assessment of this one. But let's let's get into some other cookies. Mitch start giving a rundown of what you got you guys kind of a breakdown of what people think of dough boyce mary with your it stinks and but i think i like it's kinda the two reactions to doboy or weigman i when we're coming into the club so why i went to like i said i want to the one next to in harvard and i walk in and i walk in like so mine closed at one one. Am it was a sunday night And i walked in and This guy mike who was working there he was talking. They're having a good time. And i said what's up and i told him ideal and i said i i I'm gonna say. I'm going to be honest with because we were just talking. We were just chatting is going to be honest with you i. I'm on a podcast reviewing this place. It's like i never do this. But i was like what i think is good and they all started laughing and he was like well. What i think is good and he started list off all these vegan cookies so i had asked a person who is a vegan vegan guy was vegan. Who worked there. What his favorite cookies were. Also my friend. Alex told me that. I should get somebody begin cookies from here so i did. I got the the chocolate chunk vegan cookie as vegan and gluten free and it was really good. I was shocked. I was really shocked by. I also got so in that same box. They gave me the mills in milk and cereal cookie. Just this one lags yes. I got that one. And i wasn't sure if this one was gluten free but this one was just straight up not good. It tasted very marshmallow. E was your this. This was the only one. I did not like to be clear. This is the only one. I i didn't like was this Yeah i'm looking at the menu now to see if there is a gluten free Varietal of this. But i will say that these cereal and milk one which i got a vegan birthday cake. It doesn't look like there's a vegan cereal and milk. But the vegans or the regular cereal and milk. I got i. Similarly thought was to marshmallow e and also within. It is is fruity pebbles. so it's but but it's very fruity pebbles. So it's a weird thing where it's like it's you know it's kind of a generic cookie base but then just like you're getting a lot of fruit flavor and then also just like a lot of marshmallow in each bite and i just found it all like kind of unpleasant. I'm sure some people would like that shit but not for me. Yeah no it wasn't really from either. I i i that was kind of my only letdown. Though i will say Because i thought the rest of my cookies were pretty fantastic. They told me right away that they were out of sugar sugar cookies and they were out of a and they were also out of Snickerdoodles so so two. Big ones not not available but that was okay so i got some. I got double chocolate mint. I got one of those. I got the classic with eminem's got Let me look here. Sorry then i got a couple of the big because they they have to they have to scale they have the deluxe cookies and yonder lakhs cookies. So i got a few deluxe cookies. I got a chocolate peanut. Buttercup a confetti deluxe a salted caramel. And then i also got myself a a witch. Why not w i t h. Yes w is h. e. s. I got one of the witches. Let's let's back it up can you. Can you take that again in. Just say i also got a witch. I also got a witch. Why w. h. e. ooh okay we're talking about frankenstein's and witches is really. October really is coming lags. That's right so i got. I got so with the with the with the witch. I got myself w. i. h. e. y. x. I got myself a triple chocolate triple chocolate. And then the confetti deluxe and as the ice cream. I got this weird ice cream. That i still don't really know what it is and i need your help. It's like a cookie dough. It's like a blue monster cookie dough did you do. Did you see this in your in your let me look shine. Look at the menu. I didn't end up getting ice cream because it was like it was enough of a drive for me back. That was like this isn't going to travel. But i guess. I could have just gotten a scoop in eating it there. I didn't think to do. There's that bad boy right there. See i'm looking at there's a. There's a gluten free ice cream. There's a vegan chock a. There's a no that's not a. That's a vegan gluten free cookie with ice cream on it. The i yeah. I don't see all their their ice cream flavors here well my mike really hooked it up. I'm going to say the highlight my bite of the night. Was this big monstrosity of a sandwich. Which will post online. It was really. It was really really good in the cookie was warm. Here's the deal. Here's what happened. I had made this up for me. There being great and mike was hooking me up putting the cookies and the box. Tell me what to get. And i i put on my credit card. I said you can put a tip on the card right and he said no. It's one of these. You can't put a tip on the card which is so crazy. Had the same issue with the app. Yeah i had. I had no cash. I said is there a. Tm nearby said yes and he said right at the corner. There's a bank of america. The harvard bank of america so i went over to the bank of america and the doors were locked in none of my cards unlocked and every single one of my card and there were two doors so i had come back and be like i couldn't get money for a like i felt like such a failure because i was trying to. I was because he was like. It's good when i said i was going to go. Get him to be like. It's all good. Don't worry about it. I was like no no. I'll go get you on that. I couldn't get one. And then by the time i got back to the ice cream sandwich. It had melted quite a bit. Because i had been spending time trying to get a tip so i fucked up so bad i fucked over the place. Well don't worry we're going to get into the surprise in the second that ice cream sandwich. That ice cream sandwich was was was really really great. And i thought most of the deluxe cookies were really. Were really good. there were like. Here's here's my one complaint about this. I wonder what you guys will think about this. I think that there was like one or two cookies that i thought tasted a little bit oily dot all of them but there was like one or two rows like oh i taste i kind of like it. Tastes like they've been baked. And i taste like kind of like the butter oil sitting in them like that that that is the only complaint. I had my my other small complaint. Was that i this mint chocolate chunk chocolate chocolate chunk or whatever. It is so overpowering. If you get it you should ask for it in a separate bag because it makes some of the other cookies tastes like mint. Wow yeah cookie monster energy had any of it. Yeah it's it's it's my mom loved it. My mom said that that was because she tried once. She said it was her favourite. The sea salted caramel was good. The just the the vegan chocolate chip one was good. And then that buttercup was really great to and i i like the continue one but the highlight was that that sandwich in a good eminem cookie. All the cookies were great. And i kinda got one over on like the appeal in and just even the the hook of this restaurant i was like. Yeah i kind of like this place. I like insomnia cookies. They do wanted to things and they're trying to do the best they I'll also just say real quick. I think that this the you getting two different cookies for your ice cream sandwiches anarchy. I cannot endorse this chaos. That's insane a confetti chocolates. You it was great. It worked perfectly. I'd yeah i. I cannot get on board with that but mary let's get. Let's talk about your cookies. what'd you get there for and early from the from the insomnia. Well when i got off my he opened the doors. When i said can i agree with you. Mitch under greasy factor like. I thought these were delicious as also got a deluxe salted caramel as well. I felt like that one in particular. Maybe it's because they're larger than the. Yeah they're very bank have held onto the butter. A bit more You know. I'm a classic gal and i love the chocolate chunk. I thought it was really delicious. also i really disagree. I loved this real milk cookie. Because yeah because i think it felt like oh. This is a slight departure. Feels more like a rice krispies treat. It was very good to me interesting. Yeah i really really liked the classic with eminem's too. I thought that sometimes like a grocery store eminem. Cookie can really miss the mark. Just one was very good. I got the megan birthday cake. I thought the texture was a little strange And then i got the cinnamon bun which was with the white chocolate. I believe is what it was with. The cinnamon factor of it was really delicious. And then i gotta say a little too sweet. I think on the icing. Pardon me interesting I mean this. Is i mean i'm not. I don't have the biggest sweet tooth and that for me is a big thing with cookies. In general is that like. I'm not you know. I'm not always going cookie crazy because i have a crazy sweet tooth. I'm not a cookie monster. now. I've grown out of the cookie monster thing. I don't i don't i don't i don't need. I don't need cookies anymore. Wags cookie monster ever grew up if cookie monster aged. He'd be much hamburgers or something cheeseburger monster. You wouldn't stick around cookies. You know that's true. He's been around for a while. But you're saying that because he's kind of like dracula he just like. He's been the same age for all of time that he has high how it hasn't matured. Halloween is really spooky season. As among is upon us dracula frankenstein witches. We got we got almost all of them. Yeah i would say. I think he would switch over to something more savory at some point in time it just but the idea of this like a place that delivers especially the college kids the idea of getting a box of cookies and a and a glass of milk so that you know your your mommy. You can't know mommy's gone so you don't have mommy so you need to. You need a little box of cookies and milk. That's i think it's sweet. I think it's kind of a nice idea. It's it's good. Bring him back. So many memories of my My my freshman year dorm roommates telling me that same thing like mommy's gone you don't have money. I miss mummies milk. That's what you're crying over. And over again i will say yes if if this existed when i was you know. I was undergrad. Yeah i would absolutely have loved it. And i and i also think that there is okay. So this'll be. This actually be interesting for the westwood outlet because there is a local spot beloved neighborhoods spot in westwood just south of ucla campus. Where i went to school called diddy riese and like did he kong and did he has it like it's it has basically the same quality cookies but they're like half price in fact when i was in school they were like Get like three for a dollar. It was like it was an absurd value and so competing with a local spot. Like this might be tough but they do have the value out of they will deliver. And i think that will be. That would help it out. I didn't get to experience the delivery but picking it up as you both did. I will say that again. You can't tip on the app. I did the same thing as you mitch. I made a tend to make a trip to the atm to drop cash tip which is a just frustrating. Let's tip on the app. You know or let us. Tim on the undercard. Don't don't create that obstacle but Especially when when somebody's places are having trouble finding workers. It's just like well. Yeah if you're not gonna let people get tipped it's like why are they going to work there but anyway the the that aside i will say the cookies i really i really liked you. Talk about the gun mary. I looked it up. It's actually a a what they describe as dreamy cream cheese drops. So it's like a cream cheese chips thing. Ask gross description. But i will say. I did like my cinnamon bun. I thought it was quite good. I thought it was like a it. It was like a plus. Stop snicker doodle. I thought this was an. I didn't snicker doodle and he didn't miss it because i thought this was just like a and i'll say that's my general note for anyone who goes to. This place is the more dynamic and daring. Flavors are just more interesting. I agree they have a good chocolate chunk. They have a. They have a very solid very good peanut butter chip. But i was more interested in the in the ones that were a little bit unique. Got a dark chocolate chunk which was very good the white chocolate macadamia which was solid says. It was coconut. You didn't get a lot of coconut from it. Cinnamon i actually really liked cereal melted. It wasn't for me. But the the deluxe cookies. I got which are a little bit bigger and you know the normal cookies you get six for twelve the deluxe you get four for fourteen. But they are bigger so it's like the equivalent amount of food and then just the flavors are more interesting other salted caramel. I thought was good. Yeah i can maybe see that. It was perhaps a little bit greasy. I didn't quite hone in on that as i was eating it. But yeah i can definitely see that This moore's i thought was a really good execution of that. I don't love s'mores personally. I just don't love the combo of marsh. Well maybe maybe. I'm a marshmallow skeptic. Maybe that's part of the issue. But but this was a really good execution of that having the graham cracker and the chocolate chunks integrated in there the confetti deluxe. I don't know if either of you've got the confetti deluxe. Say by days. If you said you did i love the confetti deluxe. I thought it was gin israel. I thought this was like this was like a just a better version of the similar cereal and milk. I thought it was. It was a similar sort of flavors. But i thought it was just a it was just really really delicious and then my my much of the lunch mitch was the oatmeal chocolate walnut. That which was which was an opium cookie where there was a simple as oatmeal cookie with with with walnut and chocolate. It was good. Yeah this was a cookie base launch. Jesus and aside double cheeseburger. This was this was there. Were a lot of cookies. Look at the lives of like sixteen cookies. It's a lot of food cookie monster if he if he wasn't a dracula he'd be turning fifty three this year so he'd have gray hair he wouldn't be blue anymore. Yeah he maybe he maybe was at the instead of cookie. Cookies see is corrupt. You're up a benghazi ain't going away. Yeah it's i don't know i really like this place. I think i think this is maybe the consensus and i guess we should just get into our final thoughts here but i like this place. It's a pretty streamlined concept. They're like we're gonna make cookies. We're gonna have ice cream. You didn't try the ice cream. Try the ice cream cookies. We're going to have ice cream and we're going to have it be you know we're going to be open late nights and it's going to be available for delivery and that's what we do and you know evaluate of those terms. I don't know i i came. I came away pretty happy with my insomnia cookies experience but we should get to our final thoughts so mary. You've done the podcast before but just a refresher will each go round. Give our closing argument. If you on insomnia cookies and end that by giving it a score from zero to five forks you our guest will begin with you watch boy. I really wish. I would remember the really kind gentleman who helped me out as well and i did have a cash chip on me because i am a grandma and i always got loose five but like you're saying i mean i woke up. Rub my eyes and walks in there and said while straight out of the gate. First i want to put into. My belly are six from the six packs of cookies and a deluxe salted caramel. I need the outside was very crisp on each one of them. Soft and gooey. On the inside to me. I loved all the classic ones are not on non. Not nick on this one. I liked sort of classic variety and also the general vibe to say worse why forks i love it not messing around i love it i love it i i mean i'm interested i'm in i'm i'm bob. I'm ballpark bud with you. I'm a ballpark bud. Here but let me let me get into it. Why eggs i came. I came away with. I came away with a similar feelings. That you did. I i kind of not being a bit of a skeptic on this And i left being an insomnia fan. I like insomnia. I think insomnia is good. And here's the surprise for your wags. When i was in there. I said i a podcast and i told you i was. I was talking with two with mike. Basically the you know for for most of the time that i that i was in there i was. I was talking with a with a great guy. Mike but also when i said i was i was doing a podcast another employee. His name was devan his ears. He perked up at the at the mention of a podcast and he said you a pocket and he said i used to do stuff at at the hong kong in cambridge. There is no wow and he. He showed me what he did. Like an mc and he does he does great he does like the trailer voice he does like a great trailer voice and so without further. Do i got his contact information. And i had him do a little dough boys trailer and i'm going to share it with you right now. Here we go were with their benita. Buggies this one plug guest as than a mall. Don't boise's you started listening. Because he was interested to hear about the food that you wondered if they can. Mitch kill themselves now. You don't know why you listen anymore from wendy's to chick-fil-a taco bell taco bell taco bell again will continue to do the work you don't even want them to do and also talk about radford guy. Let's the dough boys at the work that they do. Ps speak you'll be one hundred fifty dollars. Cash epithets big betty speech in the hundred eighty. Y y you went seep dollar sign in front and please send the money from your personal count. Not the doe boys say you don't wow what clips on divine devante was divan. Had he had amazing pipes. Put them on display. Emma and worked. I'm shocked at work. A whole of this is a full day affair of trying to get this to work. But devan thome the what i do. He started talking like that. And i was like. Hey let me let me let me take advantage of this. Got his info and then and we and he did that basically this morning he was great and everyone in there was great which wives devan and mike. You helped push up to four and a half for folks not complete five forks but very very very very close not going to give. I'm gonna go with my heart but it's it's a great place and i think that it's it's a fun chain. If you have it in your neighborhood. I feel like if i was having a party and there was a bunch of people over in like i wanted to. Just get some warm cookies and milk for the end of the night but a nice little treat for dessert. I would one hundred percent. Take advantage of this. And it's like a. It's kind of a good date spot wags to walk to after after dinner or something. It's just it's great. They do what they do. Well four and a half forks nearly five forks great. Wow very good score we should. We should verify whether devan wants. Cash app public K with it out. That was that was a part of it. Okay if he's okay with anyone wants to wants to tip service worker and feel free to send them a couple of bucks and would be mitch. You and i will talk off line about our going. Gonna pay him because no. It's you heard divides personal account. Okay i think we do out of the boys account across the personal ago after your language. I don't think it needs to come from my checking account. Maybe come from the company's funds but especially for tax purposes but again we'll talk about this offline. i will say that the again the f. is great the app crap. The apps great the the one worker. There did a great job and had everything ready to go. You know. I didn't have a lot of repartee with him. That's more of mitch's department but but we think we had a nice interaction and and the service was great. And i will say that i like all the food. I like all the cookies. I you know there's a part of me. That's like i wish it in my college years instead of playing smash brothers melee and diablo two and you know like lake. That was basically my college experience. I wish i'd like thought of an idea for a fucking million dollar chain restaurant out of my dorm room. I wish i'd been that entrepreneurial because you know two weeks in a row we're running into guys who just sort of like had the gumption to just sort of and also got money from their families but that's fine But had the gumption to just sort of like have this idea and started up on their own and just sort of come up with this business and and appeal to a niche that they knew existed because they understand the eating habits of their fellow coeds and That's that's very much the case here. I get the appeal. I understand why this is working. I understand why this is expanding n. Y. it's growing and i think the cookies are pretty pretty good especially for the price. I think this is a decent value. Think all the things you could have invented in your college years. The hula-hoop two years older than you can go to school on the gi bill. I think it's an endorsement of this place that you know. Some of us are like try or go. More basic my. I'm like go more daring. I think there's a lot of varietals. Here that will that will work for you. The the nice thing is that you can try a bunch without breaking the bank. And so i think i think. I think we're ballpark buds. Here and i also know that insomnia cookies is in the golden play club. Four and a half forks. Welcome to the hallowed halls. Wow quite now quite now. There should be some sort of cheering. We should get no am up. Yeah you probably don't like that idea some extra extra work of should be audience. There should be a crowd cheer when that happens wags The live shows are for. Wow golden play club. Wellborn com nia cookies. We'll take a break. We'll be back with more dobos boys and hey you. 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The spookiest of months this is all hallows eve. eve addition. Okay so we are going to be talking about halloween things. Halloween foods and halloween etc maroney. Mary d. like Do you like scary. Where did you stay plan. Spooky scary right up my alley. Ah what's your what's your like Like do you are you someone who dresses up for halloween or you big costume person. I used to be. And then i think just had one to a two spooky of a halloween The vibe is very like in chicago. I feel like very fun until it turns to the a everyone wants to fight mode. Oh yeah that's a different kind of scary and that's an unfunded scary. Yeah that's like an. I'm in danger scary. I like how about scary movies. Are you like Do you like a horror film. I really do. Also i know the new candyman just came out but the orig- candyman is my favorite. Oh yeah oh my god. There is so freak that that i saw that too young and i was so scared it was but it was. So it's like so fucking good. I dressed up as a baby. For many halloween's right in a ninety and then people like people were like. What are you do Like i would probably like. Oh it's halloween. Realize i were baby ninety. Here's here's what here's a one's gotta go. Yeah robert robert durst jared from subway the actual devil and wider. Who's gonna go for me. I'd probably banish lucifer himself. okay. I think there's a stronger case for getting the devil out of there all right. So here's how this will work. I'll i'll read a category four items and collectively decide. Which or maybe just individually decide which one must be banished. All right i i i i up candy bars. And by the way these were compiled by the drop king. Robert per singer associate producer. First step candy bars kit kat. Snickers three musketeers. Twix kit kat. Snickers three musketeers. Twix begging people are gonna get mad amee away and what is what is our version. What's our rip offers and called one has to single item must be banished zone thing so a single item must be banished and i. I think i think this is. This is tough. People are going to be but i think i'm going three muskateers. I know that like how the right answer is probably kicked cats. But i. But i. But i kinda like cat just for the plane. -ness of them. I guess i don't know the crunches great to russia's great. i love the three musketeers. But i i understand. Snickers are not getting rid of now twix. I like the crunch knocking twix. But then maybe with twix and kit. Kat i dunno mary what do you think i hate to jump on the mitch bandwagon. But i'm saying banished banishes. Item is Musketeers for me as well how how emma you gotta a let you be the deciding vote here. I would say three katina to maybe not. A lot of people are going to be mad at us. Because there's going to be some die hard three musketeer fans but you know what an get rid of. All three of them are gento. What are their names. Dr it again. Dr ganz looking about the oregon are those are whatever. They're pissed off fucking. I would've probably voted kit. Kat but i but i defer to the consensus. All right. next up gumy's now i'll. I'll recuse myself from this. Because i'm on the record as saying the as gummy yummy But the the the options for dummies are gummy bears. Gummy worms peach rings and swedish fish. Gummy bears gummy worms featuring swedish fish. Mitch what do you think. I'll go first. Because i i'm very i i. I'm very particular gummy. So i'm not going to go on my whole rant. I do i love. Gumy's i will say. I know this is going to be unpopular but the one that must be bandaged for me is petering mary. You nailed it peach rings but i also wanna yell at our producer. Drop king rapper singer. Yes is swedish. Fish are i there. It's a tough category. I never. I've never had it garage him as as you've never had a swedish fish. No don't be incensed hell. Emma was bad to knocked had swedish fish. I think that's the anger is emma's ever been with what that was like. What are the most common candies everywhere always. It was like a penny candy. Never had them. You're a baffling human. You're truly baffling lot. Lots there's lots of worms plenty of featuring never had swedish fish really never had them. Yeah i have an issue with them being categorized as gumy's i guess critic gummy they look they look like i said yesterday are all right. You're fine drop gang. I'm getting rid of featuring. I just a little too sweet for me. I guess is maybe the reason why just like an honestly with swedish fish are getting like a different vibe than all the other ones so i don't want to get rid of your still fawn. Yeah what do they taste. Like a dirtyish. Yeah they just like swedish fish. They're kind of hard to. They're not actually might not as gummy as some gummy nine. They don't stick to your teeth like some things like they're not as they're not as gopi. Your gummy is as not shooing them. They're not as tough like you know how like you some chewing like a tough piece of steak or something swedish fish. That was disgusting comparising but swedish. Fish that you're gonna you're gonna jump right through why there's not going to be an issue. Wow okay all right. Good to know. I wanna say mary. I same exact so far to for to. Yeah featuring emma. What do you think i fucking love patriots. So i can't do the petering so hard to choose the like all of them but i think i'd have to get rid of the worms. That's so insane hurt so good about it but you're fired. You heard her power. I forgot all right next up. This category is classic. Halloween candy halloween candy. Okay and the insurance for this. Our candy corn smarties tootsie rolls. Jesus in twizzlers. This is classic halloween candy candy corn smartest tootsie rolls twizzlers. I feel like i buy these things that you would get dropped in a sack trick or treating neg egg from your fucking this these loose candies dollar store loose candies. Have to be a hardboiled egg just physically glass. What soft boiled breaks through the window and then also it. The yolk still splatters everywhere. What do you think of that man. Insult to injury leaving mitch. Candy corn smart cereals twizzlers. Man this is. Are these loose twizzlers. Like are they in a package or they just thrown into your halloween bag loose. Do they have individuals. Twizzlers air like two of them next to each other. Yeah true. I noticed the mini ones. And then they do have they do have long boys. that are just like individually. At least they used to. They used to the jumbos as they call them. Bj's faces on the packaging stick. Looks like a twizzlers. What the fuck long. that's not thick. All right let's see here. I'm in trouble to god. So a couple guys on my street love smarties but what was the for care. I mean come on kinghorn what the fuck is between candy corn and smarties for me to keeping and then it's almost a toss up like i don't care get rid of both of them really smart. He's smarties are are just too. They're just too tart. Is that what they are. Yes talk chart jockey. Maybe i would just get rid of because like candy. Corn at least is like halloween. I guess so like you. Have you know like you can eat one of those for fun. I don't know but i mean candy. Corn sucks to. They're they're they're both bad but i'll get rid of smarties. Mary what do you think well again. I don't mean to copycat niche again Well i do. Just oh this out there about candy corn. I'm not a fan except for when somebody bought the pumpkin shaped ones and interested delicious. It's like kinda biting into a little candle but it's very very good on the smarty. The chunky this. I'm off the shocking. Has audacity commander of a bitter sharpness. That one's gotta be banished from me. Wow joyce emma. I think it's i'm with you. It's a toss up between smarties candy corn. But i think i don't candy. Corn does feels like chewing on wax to me. It doesn't taste like nothing. I think if i had to choose between doing untarred or nothing. I'd choose tart cockiness so i gotta get rid of candy. Corn that's fair. I mean not not. I'm not putting up a fight on that either. But i mean they both suck. Yeah if i. If i were to weigh in here i i'd also say candy. Corn at tizi rolls in twizzlers are fine. I'd say it's just yeah it's smart. He's i liked as a kid. Not to throw a complete wrench into it. But are you twizzlers or red. Vine people for me i was always read vine but that was also because you would get like costco. Had the the huge bug yeah. The garbage is a child but costco had like that fuckin- gigantic you know popcorn of red vines. That would have you like three hundred in them. You mostly ate of out of a bucket as a child anyways. Right yes mitch mealtime. They put a bucket around your neck. Yes it was mouth. That's what i was doing all right next category. I would say that. That would be one sheedy halloween to come home with a bag. Filled with smarties like tootsie zero pops in in in candy corn. That's not that. I dislike. I i i'm i was twitter household by the way we weren't we weren't ready. Is that a new england thing. I think maybe red vines. I think maybe he's more west coast. I'm not sure though but twizzlers are finding good. And they're fun to have in your halloween bag but like and tootsie rolls but like they're the bottom tier of the stuffy. Want right like even those are the things that you don't want like a ton of you want you want the the snickers and the starbursts and the other things right. Yes ideally yeah and then then then and the mythical the house and the rich the rich neighborhood where they all give out full candy bars that every kid talks about never seems to manifest. Why would rich people give things away for free. That's not in their nature. No it's a big one. Yeah that's that's true. I feel like it was just a generous house. That would do that. I feel like rich per the rich person house would have their lights off. It's like what they wouldn't you. Wouldn't you couldn't go to their house. A single reese's peanut butter cup. That's that's what i like. Oh my god. That's one single. Not the mini cup. The the full sized cup in the individual wrapping that is that is a fucking them in. I was fine but the senate single cup. Give me the single. i'm with you. Yeah that's that one. That one feels like you fucking win the lotto very where you stand on red red vines twizzlers law. I'd say trashing balls. not sphere. Licorice is just such like a fucking nineteen thirties treat. It seems like she went on a piece of licorice just seems so dated red vines makes a. There's like a natural one. Now that's made with real sugar and it looks at the packaging slightly different and i've found it in very few places but if you find them. They're so good. They're so much better than both red vines. Antlers delicious a highly. Chew on it. it's like yeah it does it taste. It's just not as artificial. it feels like it just. I don't know it's sweeter but like in the not in a gross to sweet way and like a kind of like a mexican coke versus regular coke process. That little bit extra oomph there. You go all right next. Category classic monsters classic monsters our really is we have season. That's right dracula frankenstein. The mummy and the wolf man which of these must be banished. Wow this is very funny. I like this i do like. There's lot yes by the way. Emma helped me out. I was i came up with dracula frankenstein. The mummy was like what's the fourth one and she was like wolfman as like the saw this question in the chat. And i didn't know what the fuck was going on me either banal. I do now. It's revealed just texted that out of context and not completely out of context. Just finish this list dracula frankenstein. The mummy the wolfman one must be banished. My friend luke. Michaels used to into a beer can like teen. Wolf was fucking great fucking awesome. It was cool as hell. What's his what's his dumb boston. Nickname hoover is it really kluber. Yeah what i call them. Lucre i call them lucre to i call them a lot of different things but he he was in ithaca friend college friend. Okay lucas awesome. I love you luke. I'll just wait in real quick. And say that the dracula the frankenstein. The wolf man. We know their weakness. Sui we know that you can get you can do a stake through the heart or across. We know that you can use frankenstein. Hates fire we know that the wolfman you take him out with a silver bullet the mummy. I don't think has a clear weakness and the mummy terrifies me. Because he is an ancient evil of emi use origin and power and the mummy gets his hands on me. I don't know what he's going to do with me so i i'm choosing the mummy. We're talking brennan. Frazier in is the first one. You weigh. In on his fucking. These is a is a brennan frazier. Mommy or is it. Who's the other one is a boris karloff. Who's who's who's traffic. Universal mommy is not. I'll look it up the invisible man you know. The invisible man is actually of those old boss. Movies is like a fun one. That was my question to you was. Is this a scenario. Where like you were saying like. We're eliminating one because they're so scary. One that we think is the lamest. That's that's the tricky part to me. it's however you want to interpret it. By the way the classic mummy of the the mummy's tomb in the mummy's curse movies in the forties. The movies of my childhood you right when i was eating black licorice out of a bucket as a boy in the one thousand nine hundred forty s going to the nickelodeon The movies were the starve. Those films lon chaney launching the classic. The classic mummy got that. Fuck fuck that up. I'll get made fun of online wider. Fire bad cookie. So is your answer frankenstein. No i could never get rid of frankenstein. He's the most like me actually makes me want to eliminate him more than i. Maybe would i maybe would eliminate the i would maybe eliminate. Here's the reason why. I would eliminate the mommy both for what you're saying is he is really scary. But man dracula's scary so if it was gone by like the scariest dracula's really scary movement is sad but then also got bit and then you became a wolfman. Is that that bad. I feel that that's kind of fun. You know i. I mean i think. I think there's the fear that you don't know what's going to happen like i love. You may not know that you're a wolfman at first and then later find out you know because you just wake up and tattered clothes and there's one all around you know what you did But then also. I think that it's going to happen. There's just like that anxiety all month. Long as you're waiting for the full moon and then you need some chain you up so you don't wreak havoc now kinky. I think i'm gonna go with go with. I think that i'm gonna go with the to lemus. Ones are the look. We think that well the mommy's not that lame. Either though. But i feel like over thinking this dracula in dragon. Franken center just r. s. T. monsters though. Aren't they very cool. Yeah and they're. They're scaring their away. But frankenstein. almost a friend he becomes. He becomes friendly in a lot of the movies. In you know in a lot of frankenstein lore. I'm gonna why. I think i might be with you just for. I think i might get rid of the mummy just for you know for ancient ancient mythical reasons and then also like just hor reasons like he's in the desert and there's the sun is out and stuff i don't know i think it's kinda stupid so so the mummy man this. This is the hardest one. This is the hardest one of all but the mummy. It's a challenge. I think. I think the mummy is a moaner but i do think that the there's certain versions of the mummy where the mummies likes march and he like his talks at you you know. He's been known occasionally to say cookie. Goud kirk mary. Who what about the creature from the black lagoon. that would have been easy to eliminate at least i. Yeah i don't who do that. That's one of those things it's like when you're talking about the all star team it's like like how did this guy not get paid and it's just like well then who you're going to get rid of you know You you gotta get it. You gotta get rid of someone to make a slot. You're saying you're saying that the crew from the black balloon is jalen brown basically. Yeah not making the team. Oh wait did he. Not make the all star team this year. Oh did he make the all star team. Maybe did as a ballard this up now. I've now a of alternates. Because of there are a lot of alternates because of the you know. That's how mike conley got on. Let me guess you think. Lebron is dracula. I don't know if that means if that's good or bad what is that. what are we saying. If we're calling him a dracula. I mean isn't dracula. The best monster isn't isn't that well. I mean he's he's the king. Yeah yeah he's a i. Look you know eliminate dracula all right. Well i look through the the eastern conference all all stars for twenty twenty one. Nbc's mary what do you think who do you. Who's got who. Who must be banished. Dracula frankenstein the mummy. Or the wolfman as much as i also confused by the money and i don't feel like we know enough about him or then I think wolf feels very triggering to me leary. The unpredictable nature like running a great day all of sudden tattered clothing blood and that. I don't like that's fine and also to. Yeah even after my story about hoover. It didn't win you over. Mid jalen brown was a reserve on. Is this year. yeah makes sense. I know he was injured for part of the year. Though so i i. It's it's i'd i see why you'd think he was. Maybe on the bubble. I what do you think which of these which of these big four of classic monsters would you eliminate. I think the mummy because there's something about the live dead thing that freaks me out. What's under that rap. And i don't know. I don't like it. Yeah yeah and some versions. What's under that. Rap is like beatles terrifying. I don't wanna see that shit right. The mummy takes it in a split decision. And this is an old. He's kinda gross. Just like the via if he grabbed you just like the old. It's fucking gross. Yeah old shitty fucking paper. Yeah i have never. I don't know that version of it where it's one big wrapped up beatles. By the way i don't know huggers talking about where the reveal. Is that the mummy is bill. I'm from liverpool blue jay way. I'd final category scary. Sound affects our producer. Emma defects is some texts about this too. Why did i discussed with me on the text me. You're not gonna go listen to the effects. I said oh of course not exactly. It's fine all right. Let's what we'll do these in sequence so emma. If you want to want to get the get these ready. She wants to play them all in a row. This is the longest this is like a twenty minute segment. That's the dumbest shit. This is the dumbest segment get staff. Ten minutes of me. Were trying to figure out which montjeu eliminate so. It's my career. I i honestly this was going on so long. I cut one so you. You're tell us what it was. I i'm not gonna wanna talk about it so you all right you just tell us. We'll edit what what what what was it. It was this was mount slash more. Okay we're gonna we're gonna do that. We're going to do it next. So let's do the sound effects. We're gonna we're gonna do it okay. Scary sound effects emma. He's ready to go. Yeah okay. I up creaking door okay. Next next one down specific creaking doors. It like the idea. I say these are examples. Okay okay. I'll give you a point of reference for what we're we're talking about next up rattling chains rattling chains. I was listening to these before you did it. Because i would've. I would said look for any others next one wolf howl wolf howl god. Please let it be weird. Ooh ooh it's it's an actual wolf and finally some be mon zombie mona thinking door rattling chains wolf. Howl zombie. mon are your options. Which scary sound must be banished. Every came up with these. I saw a whole bunch of them. So those were the ones i picked for today. I don't know. I got other options. These are great perfect. I think you're a super producer. The best there is in the game. They'll sound quite understand. Why do i also had a wolf how that was like more in the distance. Which katie's spookier. No this is perfect. This just gave us a taste of what we're what we're talking about. All right. i mentioned. What do you think creaking chains wolf. House zombie mon. What would you banish. i'm keeping. I'm keeping creaking door. Even though that can just happen without any. But if you're alone and you hear creaking door that's scary. That's scary so fucking scary. Yeah gary stuff. I mean like zombie. Mon here was really bad. But i'm not going to judge it on our wolf outlook here my tour that are staying again. This is another situation here. Wolf owl staying in creaking doors staying. Because those are those are classic. Halloween sounds ray chains rattling is is a very haunted noise that i just don't know if it really would if i heard that about. What is that noise. But i wouldn't think it was like as scary if i even just heard a door creek. You know what i mean like. I think that some. I don't know i think you'd be scared out of your gourd of course if you were in the basement of your mom's place in quincy massachusetts where you live and you heard rattling chains outside coming down the hall. You'd be terrified. I mean i'd be afraid of any of those sounds but then you put it that way. I'm like well then the creaking door. I'd be the least scared of if i'd be pretty not scared of a wolf. Howl inside my own home but out it was shots. You heard a wolf. How in your home. You wouldn't be scared while no acoustically. If i get place it inside my home. Of course they'd be very scared. But i heard a wolf howl in the distance from inside my home. I'd be like oh there's a wolf out there is as so. Yeah these are all. These are all contextual. If i was if i was if i was out in the woods i'd be scared if i was in ithaca college. I just think it's proven. I wouldn't be scared at all biting into a can of bud light. I'm going to go. I'm gonna go with the chains rattling. It's two reminds me too much of the of marley It reminds me of like old ghost. That's like chained up for some reason. I i it doesn't it doesn't scare me as much fair enough. Very what he thinks. Creaking door rattling chains will foul zombie bone rattling chain. Maybe especially in. This version feels like maybe pooper was just locking up his bike or sitting out on the zombie grown. Yes pretty i. I saw them. I knew matter where you heard it in your house outside. Your house terrifying. It's three familiar saying hot right war war and say it's pretty hot. I i saw the southbound zombie. Oh i think it was zombie but like not because some like super sexual thing was happening was ambi- but more like he was alone he was kind of. Who's talk if you will. I'm gonna change change back on jack back on board. I'm with you. I'm with you on chains. Emily you think. I think we're getting rid of spooky is like it's the least spooky sound. I would say the chains because there are a lot of things like you said locking up a bike Yeah i mean you've changed for all kinds of not so spooky things i guess. Yeah chains make sense. We review chains on the podcast. But not this type of chain. Okay we can do mount slash more mitch. But we have to be quick. We just have to decide one also run along. Can i say that the chains were particularly bad efforts. Sound effects in this in this in this segment. They were bad chain zagan. They weren't super scary but they but they were. There's maybe a hard thing to source all right. Let's do it. We gotta do. This is this is a this. Is our friends at blank. Check the this is the big four of modern killers how they gave you. They gave you a top four. Well i've i've got this from listening to this podcast. All right are they are freddy. Jason leather face and michael myers already from nightmare street jason for friday thirteenth for thirteenth leather face from texas chainsaw massacre and michael myers from the halloween franchise so grey. This is tricky. Because michael myers. I believe is a rich. You just gotta you just got to answer. This is the whole. I said we gotta do this quickly. Again i'm michael. Barr says the original slasher wasn't he. Yeah he's the first isn't he the shape kind of this mean. Look freddy and jason get in my getting my slasher hall of fame. I love those two. Like that was what i was raised on. So i love those too. So it's between leather face. And michael myers and i'm gonna eliminate gonna fuck texas there've been fucking pain in the ass. So the texas chainsaw massacre he gets he gets he gets the cut. I'm i'm i'm getting low. Mike myers in there. Wow he's good. This is this is. This is an all star team. All good this is stuff. Freddie jason leather face michael myers face. Gotta go for me. Wow wow wow you got a preference here. I can the i. This is impossible. I can't decide. It is very hard. This is the hardest. This is very very hard. I'll tip the scales of other face. But i hope he doesn't listen to this new. Wow i don't want him coming after me. Don't usually have dinner at his house. Are you in that scene with with the family or face fucked up meals. I'm not a freak man. Hey that was an single item. Must be banished just like a restaurant buyer feedback boy. We have a long email today to sorry. I didn't i didn't say we go so long. A long email. Sorry was was do a quick. Just like a restaurant of all your feedback. Well we'll try. Let's open to the feedback and today's from sun moi. This is a long road. But i think we have to tackle it so son more rights. I'm the alleged hotdog thief referencing. Cheer anton's email is read on your recent einstein brothers episode so mitchell remember. The hot dog thief incident mary for for context. I will recap some of that email from the email explaining the original incident here. We go on my last night in new york. My friend of thirty years took me out for a final night of eating. Drinking yellow brought one of his insufferable friends. I guy i didn't even know. I was having a bad night. Then when i think things can't get any worse he referring to the friend the guy who wrote this email the the new email he asked to take a bite of my hotdog and eats the whole thing. So trenton is who wrote the original email is saying that sun moi to ask to take a bite of his hot dog ate his entire hot dog and they have had a beef ever sense so back to sun. Moi's email this is This is the new email was the hotdog beef or pork. Do you know it was not specified. We'll try to get a. We'll try to get some more info there all right after listening to the feedback at the end of the einstein brothers bagels episode on an on august twenty six. I was astounded gobsmack. Did they really just hear the doboy. Say the name of my oldest friend that they really just read his grievance of the hotdog instant of which i was the counterparty. Did they actually go on to call me. A psycho and a weirdo. I feel compelled to offer my side of the story there. Four key pieces of information. That i would like to offer in my defense. I had no idea. Ten was having such a bad night. Churston abandoned the last bite of his hot dog for what felt like fifteen minutes he had then gone to. The bathroom returned. Still hadn't finished. And i was under the impression that he was done with his meal. I ate the delicious but cold dog and eight so that the server would not grab the plate thinking he was done on the service. I understand that they may have overstepped bounds three. I was under the impression that are evening of eating and merriment had only just started and we would eat again as we usually did and my other quote unquote insufferable friend would not be continuing on with us. For after as the lasers being fired from trenton is directly into my soul immediately offered to buy him a fresh new hot dog. They were good hotdogs. He did not accept. My offer maintained rage toward me and then stormed off. Wouldn't answer his foam as trenton alluded in his bag. Not your podcast. There was a tense email exchange. That followed trenton. Feeling completely justified. Its position that it was being a psycho a position. He's still maintaining eight years later shared the private email exchange group of mutual friends. Then they took this email exchange and film dramatic reading of it all caps without my consent or any mention of me so this this is a this is a four and a half minute video that we're obviously not gonna play all of but we'll play a little bit of this video Just for context of this is the. This is the dramatic reading of the email exchange between these two. I guess asserting already yes. Dear lord skin some title cards here the following his reconstruction know. We're finally moved into madison. After a week in hawaii now a car have time right an email and have the easiest to do this the phone where emotions run so this continues on for another four minutes coming by the way for those of you listening to this. This is shot in black and white very dramatically over the shoulder. Angles this ends. I do feel unfairly attacked. So i'd love to hear your guys take on the situation now knowing another perspective. I'm thinking it'll be something like all parties involved are insane idiots so there you go i. E mail accuses. This friend of edith asking to take a bite of his hot dogging the whole thing follow up email. Says i'm the friend that's not what happened. Here's my side The the hot dog was abandoned. And i thought we were gonna continue partying and this Endured ever since apparently eight years ago this this this changes everything in my eyes. Eight years ago with the first email. I don't think so. I don't think we had that context because that makes it so much more insane to be talking about this. I can't believe if you remember this. Of course look scoop and caroline made made it so that i missed a meal and italy a couple years ago and i still hold it against me to this day. So get food. grudges. I get i have food grudges. Holy understand yeah but this is just your left. Your hot dog there. It was cold. I get wanting the end of it but then if you offered to buy another one now you're maybe result. Is it just that your old doors dough boys listeners. I think that. I mean this really changed everything in my eyes like i'm i'm staggered. That we got that we got an email from the other side of. It was not expecting this. I think i'm swapping sides wise. I think of playing. I'm thinking flip-flopping it. This is this is a much more. I mean this is a much more thorough explanation of the events that transpired and then a pretty convincing case Area out what do you think is coming into this. Fresh mean again. I hate to reference my time at bubblegum shrink company. But i know that this is the thing that like. If i accidentally took someone's plate that looks definitely done and they were like oh. I really wanted to do that. I would offer okay. Great please like. I feel happy to like or something to go. Fresh full meal people would very incense so that they're perfect. Leftover bite was taken. So i did it but i really do agree. Having heard the first where someone has just eaten. Somebody's slow hotdog is one bank but to know that it was truly a quarter of it left. It was cold and that he had gone to the bathroom. Yeah that context pretty essential dork city twenty and by the way. Join us dork city for doku on twenty twenty two long. Let me see. I'm gonna try to. I'm just trying to dig up the original email but but mo. It does what do you think hearing this. I think that it sounds like you guys were drinking. And it's very easy to misconstrue things when drinking and also get if you. I mean i would never reach over and take the last bite of someone's meal with care you done with that. Can i eat it like. It's it's weird not to ask before you take something off of someone else's play but also to hold a grudge over a hot dog but eight years later is absolutely nuts me there so many more important things so as your energy but apparently still very top but i mean. He offered a fresh hot dog. You cut the butt off and take that with you if you really wanted right. Yes i mean. He offered a new one. Just get a new one. I don't think i've ever held a grudge over a hot dog. Now i'm like why don't you get the other dog hot dog at that other dog. And now i think you're a fucking dork that can eat hot dogs. Get the second. I would understand if you're like. Hey i was gonna eat that. I would appreciate if you didn't do that. And then be like but no worries like you can get my next meal or my next bite of food or something like make your feelings known. But an eight-year grudges a lot. She offered to rectify it on the moment. I it feels like that. Maybe that churston was like dealing with some other stuff with leaving that it was like i'm leaving the city that i've lived in antibes. I'm going somewhere else. And those emotions were may be hiding. Probably overreacted taoist. My other thought. There's clearly something deeper. This is just you know the straw that broke the camel's back because he was was he moving dork city. Apparently they don't have hotdogs dogs. We all have with the reveal of someone asking if it's pork or beef and ibs. I definitely also live dork cities. I'm there. I looked email. That started this off and this was a this was as of these. This record is about a month ago. And tony rodriguez episode. When we first address this about the the the subject line of that originally emails friendship ending food transgressions. These people not spoken in eight years. I don't know what i'm hearing if this is how i. Hopefully this leads to some sort of reconciliation if you have not been in contact because this is this is first off if they're to happen to both listen to this shitty podcast and this is sheer coincidence that this that this is how this came about then clearly. You should still be friends because let's have a lot of other other options. Yeah right you both have awful. Taste your door. Just be friends again. Be friends again. I mean if they really haven't talked in that long that's insane. But i also wanna say that i don't remember that i e email at all just to show you that i i forget everything that we do. I just don't remember any of that. I one hundred dust in the wind. Well hey maybe we'll have closure on this in future feedback. If you have a question or comment about the world chain restaurants you can email us at podcast. Leaves voicemail eight three zero zero. That's eight three zero four six three six eight four four and to get the dough. Boys w weekly bonus episode during the golden or platinum play club at patriots dot com slash voice. Mary sound such a delight to have you back. Thank you so much for making time for us so finding you we love you hear anything you would like to plug it this time boy one maybe i'm ap bio on peacock streaming And work in progress on showtime and just a quick shoutout to those fellas in the video gorgeous shot and as an actor. I really wish for that sort of stillness as laughter video. It was really nice. They're very well shot. I think it was. I think paul thomas anderson directed that'll do for this episode of doboy next time for mr slice mike mitchell. I'm the quaker happy. And what's up everybody. It's your boy mr slice. I got some very exciting news. We've added a late show in boston. That's right two shows back to back in boston on february fifth. You can get your tickets. Head dot com slash live. That's ed gum dot com slash live. Do it wanna see the sources for this week's intro. 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Allyson Felix's Transformation After The Nike Fallout
"They took time a champion last month. Allyson felix done the track and field world qualifying for her fifth olympics. The thirty five year old also melted some hearts right after the race along with her teammate. Panara hayes bringing their two young children out onto the track. What a beautiful moment. It might be father's day. But the moms of the stars of the athletics could beat. The davidson recently spoke with felix about her incredible journey to qualify for the tokyo gays. And about how her high profile falling out with nike. Two years ago help change her from a quiet pocus competitor to an outspoken advocate. For moms they really feed you and sell you on this. You're part of the nike family. She realized it was a very difficult realization. Come to but she realized that that's just not. This is a company from wondering the athletic. I'm tiffany ocean ski. It's monday july nineteenth and this is the leave it has been a fight to get here and one thing. I know how to do a spike so i just wanted to all the way home. It felt like something was happening. There is a something of emotion. Today's episode is brought to you by stillwater. From focus features starring matt damon and directed by tom. Mccarthy only in theaters july thirtieth stillwater is the most powerful motion picture of the summer matt. Damon plays bill baker. A blue-collar worker from oklahoma who periodically travels to marseilles france to visit his imprisoned daughter for a murder. She insists she did not commit when his daughter presented with a new lead he takes matters into his own hands confronted with a foreign land and a language. He doesn't understand. Bill looks to a local woman for help for his daughter's freedom. One father must find the truth. Still waters only theaters july thirtieth. Be sure to stay tuned for an exclusive listen of stillwater. Later in the podcast. Everyone likes shopping online. 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Or figuring out your risk tolerance or finally understanding all this terms your friends keep throwing around like etf es g and i learn about these investment products and more investor dot gov your unbiased resource for valuable investment information tools and tips before you invest investor dot gov. Because was absolutely. This isn't a story rear. Be the athlete it stays with you. Silk visa this is so exciting because fans of the show will recognize your voice as the former co host of this podcast but this time are on the opposite side of the interview. So how does that feel. And how has life been for you after the lead. It's so exciting to be back. It's so great to meet you in person tiff. I love what you've done with the show. It's been really great to see the show grow from this little thing that we all kind of built together more than a year ago. It's really cool to be back. It's weird being on this side of of the mic so to speak but yeah hopefully hopefully some of my experience on your side of the mike will make this an easy go. Yeah definitely let's get right to it so we're here to talk about. Us track and field star allyson felix and her incredible journey to her fifth olympics which will also be her first olympics. Azam mom so i can. You just remind us of her background and her accomplishments as a spinner. Yes so i mean. Allyson felix is the most decorated athlete in track and field history. She's won ten national titles eighteen world championship medals including thirteen golds. That's more golds at world's than any track and field athlete ever including you sane bolt nine olympic medals six golds three silvers two world records. She's currently tied for the most olympic medals and track and field and one more in tokyo would make her the most decorated woman in olympic track and field history. That's so exciting. She's quite the athlete that i don't think people realize how would you say that. She was known to fans of the us olympic team or the american public in the earlier part of her career. Yeah i mean her. Reputation was really for coming on scene. Super yacht maybe as the successor sprint star for the united states allyson felix. He's only eighteen years old. She already has been on the cover. Sports illustrated how about that at eighteen years old. You know she. She burst onto the scene as a senior in high school In two thousand three. She broke marion. Jones is national school record In the two hundred meter she was in high school athlete of the year that year she was known for being this kind of revolutionary athlete by forgoing a track and field scholarship at usc in order to sign pro with adidas and allyson felix has been running with more confidence each round here and she's really rounding in the shape of a first female or male athlete to go straight from high school right into the pros up until recently. She's been an eyes on the prize. Kind of athlete. Where i think a lot of people will tell you you know she. She really had a one pun. Intended one track mind to get those olympic gold. There is a rising star. alison feelings. Soon wins the two hundred meter competition. The eighteen year old leads the us contingent to athens well in two thousand nineteen. She sort of exploded on the national radar in a way that i think transcended sports. So can you walk us through. How things unfolded with her and nike. So after the twenty six th olympics in rio she announced that for twenty eight teams should be taking some time off and at the time she said. I've never really taken a break. I just wanna take some time for myself. I'm still going to raise but don't be alarmed if you don't see me out there. We now know that she was pregnant at the time and she had already begun. Contract renegotiations with nike. Apparently nike had already offered her a seventy percent pay-cut without knowing that she was pregnant but knowing that she was going to scale back her running. At the time. I was thirty two years old. That's where they felt. My value was and so i already didn't have a great feeling moving forward. You know thinking about starting a family with she and her brother who was also agent decided at the time that they were going to hide her pregnancy from nike out of fear that they would end those negotiations. Now there was precedent for that nike had done that before. Two other runners. So it wasn't an unfounded fear. Generally your contract is held. So it's place on a hold in when you return to competition then your contract with resume. She started to show when she was in the later stages of her pregnancy she trained before dawn so that nobody would see her baby bump she were backing clothes. She you know. She didn't invite a ton of people to her baby shower and she said it was really isolating time and during that time she developed severe pre eclampsia which is A condition marked by high blood pressure that causes childbirth complications and is far more prevalent among african american women. When i went in for a routine appointment at thirty two weeks i never went home. I gave birth to my daughter two days later and spent the next month in the hospital between myself and my daughter. And you know. She looks back on that time. And she says it was one of the scariest the scariest time of her life and while i am spending countless hours in the nick you i'm coming home one. Am trying to figure out. How can i get to the gym to put a few hours in. Because i know i have to be ready to run in six months many times. I just felt like i was in an impossible situation. She still negotiating with nike. So in two thousand nine hundred and she starts training again she really feels the physical effects of the c section. She said that bringing her knees to her chest even caused pain. Nike eventually did agree not to reduce her pay for a year but they refused in her contract to include any language that attached that guarantee to maternity. So that's kind of when alison says that she realize nike didn't want to set a precedent for providing protections to mothers in the future. So they would give her in her case a guarantee that they wouldn't cut her pay for a year but they didn't want to have to do that for women in the future and then she was asked to participate in an ad campaign around female empowerment for nike. And she writes this. Op ed for the new york times. I've done a lot of emotion for nike. They've used me in a lot of their store in a lot of the campaigns. But i'm also a mother. I don't think i can just sit back quietly anymore. I want protection around maternity. I want that to change. And she said you know. Nike sometimes feels like it's the only game in town right. You don't really have any other option and they really feed you and sell you on this part of the nike family and she realized it was a very difficult realization. I come to you but she realized that that's just not the case. This is a company the individuals who are negotiating these contracts are all men and it might be more difficult for them to understand what we are going through and what we have been through and what we need. What was the public response to her. Telling her story and pointing a finger at nike overwhelmingly positive. I think a lot of working mothers whether they were sports or not really felt this. The lack of support that working mothers across the country feel is extremely real and around the same time that allyson felix starts talking about the lack of support. She received from nike to of her. Usa teammates carried out your analyst. Yemen's honjo came out and basically described very similar experiences that they had with the company. I was sponsored by nike. And then when i told them that i wanted to have a baby during my career. They told me simple. We'll just pause your contract on. Stop paying you and both of these athlete tattoo break. Nda's in order to come forward with this so it really does seem that allyson felix with with these teammates of hers took on this company that had never really been called out for this behavior before and were kind of forced to change its practices. They responded with a statement saying back in may two thousand eighteen. We create an official policy standardizing. Our approach across all sports so female athlete is penalized financially for pregnancy. While the specifics of each athlete and smart sport may be unique where waving performance reductions for twelve months for those athletes who decide to have a baby and allyson felix has testified in front of the means in ways committee for the house of representatives. She's tested in front of congress. Good morning chairman. Neil ranking member brady and members of the committee. My name is alison felix. I am cameron's mom. That is the title. I'm most proud of and she's really tried to use her platform to bring light to this issue. Well one of the things. That's so interesting about her. Becoming this. very outspoken. Athlete is the fact that she hasn't always been that way right like she has talked a lot in interviews about how she was. Never want to rock the boat. But i'm not really the one to shake things up generally just want everyone to get along and be happy but beat the you recently spoke with. Allison what did she have to say. About how the incident with nike impacted. Her and her willingness to become more outspoken. Not in these terms but she basically said that was her political activation right like she had never really thought of herself as a role model or an athlete to use their platform. She had never even considered being the face of a movement. I think when i was younger i was so much in a bubble of i need of reform. I need get your gold medals and the only thing that matters. And that's all that people care about and now she's basically sad track and field is not the most important part of who she is. She's a mom. I and she is a face for women and from others for black women and black mothers everywhere. There's really about being that representation. I vote that women. See me and see themselves in me whether that's a mom who's struggling to to feel like they can do it all or a young girl you know seeing as someone who looks like bam. You know compete. I hope that women have just realize their worth and that they can do it. All well kavita. Another thing that came about after allyson felix is falling out with nike is. She has now started her own shoe company. In what seems like a pretty direct shot at nike. What did she tell you about that yet. So it's definitely a direct shot and i started. She started a soup. A shoe company called seychelles And they've actually already announced their first sneaker stace one on and she basically said. This is a company that i wanted to start for women by women Having that actual family mentality that nike purported to have in mind actually kind of making good on that promise like i said nike puts out these ads. That really tug at the heartstrings. If people say your dreams are crazy if they laugh at what you think you can do a but seem to be extremely superficial when you see what's happening behind the scenes that was one of the hardest. Things are over at nike with by so many of those campaigns and so when the veil was lifted i realized there's more to it It was so shocking. And she said. I don't want to run a company that way. I want to run a company that I would be proud to be signed with. Essentially a lot of the women on the team have shared clearances and so we always You know that woman at the forefront of everything that we do look visa you talked to house in about what it's been like to try and qualify four fifth olympics at age thirty five and with a one year delay because the pandemic so. What exactly did she tell you. She said it was difficult every athlete. Whether they're olympian are not has said that. So much of their training is hyper scheduled and hyper regimented and to have that thrown off by a year added that much more complication to it. Everything is so specific and time specific for me as an older athlete. You know it was just like oh man like a whole 'nother year like one do this. Can i do this so much. Sacrifice so to qualify for a fifth olympics. So much for her but she said just being able to cross that line in the four hundred to look up and see my name. She felt like she made it. I can't even describe it as it was just like such a relief and joy and kind of all the things that one also you know not to qualify in the two hundred. I i knew. I was going to be able to do both in so i kind of knew that like the four hundred was gonna be by my best area and just really embrace that in in sailing. Okay what i want to give it my all. She's also going to run the four by four hundred and one more gold makes her the most decorated woman in track and field olympic history and finally weird us alison fields. Go from here. What is she hoping to accomplish at these olympics and beyond she's obviously looking for another goal she can win to with the relay team in the individual for one hundred but she said you know track isn't all who i am. I think a lot of times you know like we feel like our work or you know somebody asked the first question you ask somebody like. What do you do like you know yes. That's what i two. And what i am passionate about and i do love it but i also feel like it's really more about the impact that i wanna have. She wants to remain in track and field in some way future. She said she doesn't quite know what that looks like yet. but i could see her coaching. I could see her being some kind of a brand consultant Especially with her current role running a company and she wants to spend more time with her husband and daughter and see cami actually grow up. And i did ask her if she wanted. Cammy to run a to follow in mama's footsteps and she said not really we'll see where that goes. I love like she played tennis golf. Or you know whatever she wants. Good five but i. I have been so enough traffic at this point on how it will be fun to see. What else in felix dozen this next chapter. But whatever it is she's gonna continue to break boundaries. Thank you so much for your time. Could be then. We're really looking forward to see what she does. And our final olympics. Yeah thanks for having me. You could be the full story about allyson felix and find more of her sports and culture writing at the athletic dot com and check out her. Podcast there too. It's called the culture calculus from wandering in the athletic. I'm tiffany ocean ski. Thanks for listening to hear more of the lead. You can follow us on amazon music. Spotify and apple podcasts. Or to listen to us on your alexa enabled device. Just say alexa. Play the lead podcast and now. Here's that sneak peek. listen at stillwater. Only in theaters july thirtieth team and commands the screen in water. My kid's been in jail five years instead of innocent for his daughter's freedom in our one father must find the truth. She my little girl. I'm not going to give two weeks. Let's say there's noone lead you just have to trust me. The most anticipated thriller of the summer is still water from focus features dr under seventeen out of it without parents. Only in theaters july thirtieth.
Ep. #44 - Lee County Cooperative CEO Tracey Galloway
"The. Cast network. Those voice of Florida. Hey, welcome to beach talk radio. This is a special edition. I'm here with Tracy Galloway from minuting cooperative, and I'm so happy to have you on today. Thank you for making this time for us. Thank you happy to be here. And you have another member of your staff. Joining us today is that we have Jamie Campbell. She's our division director of social services, and and directly involved with the outreach that we have at the beach. Awesome. Well, thank you for joining us as well. Thanks for having me exactly what is the community cooperative. And how long has it been in existence? Community cooperative is Ben in existence now for thirty five years for actually celebrating our thirty fifth anniversary this year in twenty nineteen. And it was started by group of folks who attended the downtown churches here in Fort Myers where main offices located our mission is to end hunger and homelessness in Lee county. So it started is really kind of emission of speeding people who were in need through a small soup kitchen. Chin has grown over the thirty five years really with the with the needs of the world and the needs of our community and the growth of our community. And now, we're comprehensive human services agencies. So we have feeding programs through our cafes have mobile food pantries and we have meals on wheels. And then we have a growing healthy kids program that we work with children who are food insecure children who are homeless who are in families who are struggling way. Also have our course, the division that Jamie runs, and that's our social and education resources. So that's our case coaches in social workers, and we wrap all of those social services in education services around all of our feeding programs really tries to create positive sustainable change in someone's life because they come to us in all different capacities of need. We don't work with just homeless individuals, which of people on the beach. That's usually what they picture S's because that's me. The population that we deal with on the beach, but we work with children through the elderly and pretty much every aspect of their lives. Once they fall into a need situation. Thirty five years is a long time. And that's that runs the whole gamut of age. Yes. It really started just as what you would consider kind of traditional soup kitchen. But as we grew it was in two thousand and five when we merged with the a group that had the meals on wheels. So now, we do meals on wheels for all of Lee county and we actually extend into the north Naples area. Just because of the way the delivery routes tend to work we deliver meals on wheels and other food services from pine island north Fort Myers out the Lee, high Benita out to the beach, and we don't do meals on wheels out at the beach yet. It's difficult delivery situation out there and season doesn't help. Trying to get down there and season. Honestly started working with God's table. Even before we took over we were just helping them. But that is right about the time all of the road construction began and we kept saying, well, wait till that's John. And we were just out there. We're way. We're waiting still I will say they have shaved off. That's a hot topic down there. But they have shaved off quite a bit of time in their projections. So I don't think you'll have to wait too much longer. It's on our radar. So when we can get to the port when we have enough steady volunteers. That's a big piece of it. Meals on wheels delivers a really dictated by volunteers who can deliver it. We don't deliver out on Santa Ballard kept TV. They have their own small organization that helps the elderly are coming home bound out there. But we know the beach there is some need. And so if there's people who are in desperate need, we find ways to assist them, but that the growth potential for us so album, the, and so what is your title here and your responsibilities? I'm the CEO. So I've been here for this is my eighth year. Pretty much in charge of everything. But I have a great management team who's in charge of all of the different programs that I mentioned earlier and Jamie here is got one of the biggest responsibilities with all of our social services components because within her social services area is all of the homeless services for our chronically homeless are temporarily homeless our families who are homeless who are living in cars and hotels on the streets. And our big piece of what we do is prevention. And so our goal is to keep families and individuals who are on the brink of homelessness from indianap- homeless. Sure, many of your listeners know that if we can catch somebody before they're homeless it's much easier to help get them turned around and back on their feet. When people fall off that cliff ten of into the homeless world longtime long, and it's very expensive. It can be very expensive in up to a year more to get them in stable housing and kind of back back on their minds. So that's a big piece of what we do. The prevention component. And do you have soup kitchen hair? Do you serve out of this building? Yes. So where we are. Now is our main offices which is downtown Fort Myers, which is not far from where the churches are the folks who were the founders of this organization and what Fort Myers east of the downtown area, which is the Dunbar area. And so this is where a lot of the need is especially with the homeless. We're not far from the jail. We're not far from the bus station, not far from this ovation army and Lee county human services and a lot of other agencies sales care, which is the mental Health Organization. So there's just a lot of agencies and organizations kind of in this area, though, it's a good place to be and yes, this is where community cafe which is the soup kitchen in aware commercial kitchen is so all of our food. Production comes out of this location, the food production is here, and then it goes down to God's table on the beach gets in. No, so all of the food production for all our meals on wheels. And all of our. Soup kitchen or the cafe here. And we also do some school lunch programs with some school. So all of that food is produced here what we do with God's table. And a lot of what we do here too is what we call our food rescue programs. So big push that we've had for the last three four years, but really heavily in the last two probably is food rescues. So we work with a lot of organizations who have prepared foods that are going to get normally tossed out public's Panara the Broadway palm seven elevens racetracks. A lot of the places you'll go and get sandwiches that are prepared or Broadway palm with the dinner theater. Right. You go in and they have that big buffet. So every Monday, we pick up about two thousand pounds of food from them that are Panza food that they haven't served on their buffet. And so that a lot of that is what we take down to the beach because that gets served five days a week. We're open in the morning. They are for even though it's breakfast time. We don't necessarily always breakfast foods have a variety of food of. Available for the folks who come in who want to eat and they enjoy having something different than your traditional oatmeal. And yeah, no. Nice their chicken parmesan. You never know what you're going to get for tenderloin. There's all kinds of great stuff. But a lot of other things that we get our like will go into a race track or seven eleven subs, and sandwiches and breakfast, sandwiches, fruit cups, and yogurt and the cheese vegetable platters, just any that grab and go type things that you might see a place like that Panara. We get tons of bread on. Their everyday publics. We get tons of bakery items. I always say there is no shortage of carbohydrates available in Lee county gets repurpose which is great rather than thrown out or act. So we have our vote. We have a big group all in tears, plus some of our drivers who are on schedules. And they pick them up every day at different locations, author outlay county, and then it goes down to we'll take what we need in terms of inventory goes to the beach. We don't have a lot of storage space because chapel by the gracious enough to give us space. So we don't have a big commercial kitchen. There is a kitchen there. The church uses that for their needs to. So we are really logistically attuned to what we can store down there. How many folks we have? So we know what getting consumed, and so you said that's five days a week. Yeah. So Monday through Friday Rams, seven, Jamie. Correct me if I'm wrong seven to eight thirty ish. Eight fifteen eight thirty is when we're open for feeding purposes for. To come any. How many would you estimate are down at the beach that benefit from your services are services. It's funny because Jamie, and I were just talking about this. And we just finished up actually all of our two thousand eighteen figures these are meals served not individuals. So one person may eat every day or three days or two days a week. So we served twelve thousand four hundred eighty meals. Wow. In last year, just at the beach. Yes, just that God's table over offer our whole organization, including meals on wheels one hundred almost one hundred seventy three thousand meals that we provided to folks who were in native food last year. One point one million pounds of groceries were distributed through all of our our mobile pantries in our pantry programs and just like we have anywhere. The beaches not different really when it comes to the most population. There are folks who are chronically homeless who have been homeless and are probably. Going to remain homeless for the majority or the rest of their lives. Just depending on what their situation as and we always look at those spokes as ones who our job is to keep them safe. We keep them fed if they need clothes if they need referrals. You know, some of them need to have referrals for doctors for health issues and mental health Salas care or addiction services. But most of the ones that are chronic mostly older they've been that way for a while for whatever the reason is, but a majority of the folks that we work with are not chronically homeless they may have been by textbook definition considered chronic because they've been homeless for more than so many months more than a year. There's a lot of Benicia when it comes to definition of homeless Nessin who's homeless, according to what government agency most of the folks that we deal with in the beach is not any different than the rest of the population that we deal with in Lee county a lot of what we call temporarily or transitionally homeless. They've lost a job for whatever reason they've been injured. They've their disability ran out. They lost down to a part time job and they lost their insurance. And every story you can think of, but those are the folks that we seek see might see them for a period of time and Maria who is our program coordinator, she's a case coach for us. But she also is the actual onsite program. Coordinator for our beach outreach is works with them pretty diligently to make sure that they get referrals to where they need they might need to get referrals for housing and through the VA if they're veterans or they might just need a haircut and a shower because they need to go to a job interview. But they're living in roads or in their car. We'd have all kinds of stories from the beach that we don't have here we get folks at spring break kids that come down. And for whatever reason they're still here after spring break is over we had one who lost a suitcase one year and didn't have any way to get in touch with buddy. So Maria helped him get what he needed since. It's simple as that. They'll also have a lot of people who pick up from family. I think it was a husband and wife and three kids from Kentucky who's left summer beginning of last summer. But after season they came down, and they were thought that oh, we're going to go to Fort Myers beach. There should be so much opportunity there because where they were a little tiny town in Kentucky where there was there was nothing available in ways jobs and came down. And obviously it was after season. And people don't always realize that we're very seasonal the husband thought he was going to have a job that he didn't. So they ended up coming the us. And so they were living in their car. Some rea- had to work with them to get them what they needed. Now, they weren't considered Lee county resident so it was difficult for us to help. But she helps that each deputation if there's dollars involved from any funds that are available to us through sometimes the county has dollars that are available for folks, if they need to get into a hotel, or if they need us assistance with housing or things like depending on what it is or stipulation. And their case she she helped them, and they ended up reaching out to some family when their children involved, especially really try to go above and beyond. But you know, so there's all kinds when we say our homeless population. It's not always the people you think of that you walking up and down the street every day. There's a lot of a lot of different stories behind behind the word homeless now at the beach. Specifically has there been any backlash from the reason incident that happened down there with with Dr hammered ding towards the homeless or towards your guys efforts backlash is I guess a strong term. But I think what has happened. Unfortunately, very difficult situation. And it's a horrible situation with what happens, and I feel especially bad for the criticism. Maybe that the church has gotten because the church is gracious enough to allow us to host this. Program on their property. And a lot of our volunteers are their church members. Couldn't do it without the volunteers. I have one one employee out there. So pretty much everything we do is volunteer driven. And I think a lot of them are feeling the heat in the climate that the beaches in right now at the big election coming out. Sadly, I think there's been some politics involved in that what I really wanna hit home to the folks in the community is that just like when there ever is any kind of devastating situation that occurs is to use it to learn he was someone who wasn't immune to dealing with the homes mobile what we heard I think that he would want this to be a learning lesson for everyone on how better to handle situations that someone might have. He wasn't somebody who had never had an interaction with any of the homeless persons who were part of that population on the beach. But a lot of people that have interactions have never had that type of interaction for us. We just want to continue to do what we're doing. Doing because what we're doing is the right thing in helping the folks who are in need for the communities that as a learning opportunity on how can we help this group of people better? And how can we be better at recognizing? And we have one individual does not define true. The whole group that the group of homeless people deserve our compassionate and our help. And that situation is is not defining all of the individuals in that group, and that's very true. And we've tried to do that everywhere because there's been situations all throughout Lee county where there's different incidents that have happened with folks who have been connected to the homeless population. Sometimes rightfully so and other times isn't necessarily the case. But in this case, it is it can't let that one incident defined the entire population of people who are in need, and that you services such as our services at the beach that outreach there. Or is for anybody on the beach. That's a need. And I think that's something that hasn't been understood enough by the beach community because we tend to get the folks who come in who are homeless, which is fine. But Maria is there, Jamie. It works really hard to bring in other partners. We're we're big United way partner. And so we have a lot of contacts through other organizations like Salas care and family health centers. Saint Vincent depaul is they're working now. After after what has happened. We are really trying to ramp up our outreach that we have context here off island that we are trying really hard to encourage them to come onto islands. And you know, I'm sure you know, from the beach it's hard to folks out there especially during season. It's not easy for somebody who has a big responsibility of serving the community as one person to from like a Salas care. You know, it's one person whose responsibility is to try to work with folks who. Who are addicted or depressed or any kind of other mental instability to get them out on the beach because it's a half a day project to get them out there to be they're really behind desk for an hour. So we're really pushing our folks that we work with the state's really important, especially now, give us a couple of months and tested out. And let's see we can really make a difference in from what we're doing is. We've created a calendar, and it's going to be shared Jamie creates it every month. We do this for all of our locations that we everywhere only county that we serve, but it's a calendar. And it shows what times and it's always going to be in the morning because that's when we're there who's going to be there and always be on site at chop chapel property sometimes in the building other times, it'll might be out at the health department might come out. Sometimes they have a bus or McGregor clinic who can come out, and and do some Marcus. Well, it's not just going to be services that only homeless people can use. We want the all the community if they're in need. Maybe they're depressed. Maybe somebody has. Got an alcoholic Shen. Maybe somebody's knows that there's somebody in need who's hungry elderly or works with somebody who lives off the beach, but works on the beach who needs to say, you know, they're really struggling number frayed that they need some help. That's really why we're we're there. We have heard that down there as well. That folks there's a lot of folks that are at risk that are really hanging on with their fingernails to make ends meet your organization is to help cover some of that they can get some free food. I mean, we had the red tide. And so a lot of those service workers lost out on a lot of income that is a need to and that you guys are able to meet that need for those folks. And I think one of the important things for the community to know that when they see people or no people that are in need that there's a lot of help on the beach beach Baptist has a food pantry once a week, and they offer assistance to get people food stamps and other programs through their access which is a which we offer as well. But they offer it on the so we try not to duplicate services, but between that and what we do. And there's always somewhere that they can call and just make a referral that to me is really what people are paying attention. Now. We're really sad, and tragic reason you have to take advantage of an opportunity to make people aware of the good that can come out of something like this. And it's. Hard to say that. And it hurts. I'm sure for the people who were really close. But I know that that is what it would want us to have this conversation. What if anything can the community do to help your efforts or the efforts of the agency we need volunteers? Jamie's less shaking her head. Yes. Yes. Yes. So volunteers are really important for us everywhere we serve and during season. It's really not that much of an issue because we have a lot of our what we call our regulars, but their seasonal so when they leave after Easter or maybe earlier than Easter this year since Easter so late we are scratching we lose about thirty percent of our volunteer group all across county after season. So if you're there in in the summer coming volunteer, I think you'll see a different side of what we do. Or what you think we do there, and it's really rewarding. It's really rewarding to volunteer. We had more than three thousand volunteers all across we calumny last year who put in a forty five thousand hours of volunteer service, while we only have twenty employees and for what we do which is not alive. So what we do is only because of all in tears. So if you can't and you want to support what? We do always will welcome donations. In terms of owed and five and terms of food in finance, but I would challenge everybody in the community to even just for an hour in the morning and get up in come down. Even if you're not gonna work just come down and say hi to the volunteers help them wash a dish in the morning. And just see what we do. I think you'll see that. There's so much good that happens in there's so much compassion from the people who are trying to help our fellow neighbors in need. I mean, that's the bottom line of what we do. And that's what we're here for so come walk walk a mile in somebody's moccasins. And I think you'll flower flipflops. Yes, I guess we are on the beach. Come on somebody's flip-flops. I think you'll see what we do in a different light will. Thank you so much. Is there anything else you'd like to share with us today that really mad that you had a son, and you know, our website is community, cooperative dot com. And that's all. All the information about what we do who we serve how we serve where we serve, and it's also got all of our emails and phone numbers. So if somebody has questions or is interested in participating somehow in our organization, we will include all of that in our show notes as well. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. Okay. Thank you.
Human Behavior Should Inform Your Brand Positioning with Panera's Eduardo Luz
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Chris great possibility mallet heart and this is marketing to today. The show get eduardo. Lose he is the chief. Brand and concept officer at panera. Panera bread company is an american chain store of bakery cafe fast casual restaurants and has twenty three hundred locations all of which are in the united states and canada on the show. Today we talk about. Edward does past. He's had stents at craft times where he was the global brand officer and chief marketing officer as well as the president of grocery he's also before that spent time in senior executive roles at unilever and ab inbev outside the us as well as accenture as a consultant on the show. Today we talked quite a bit about the pivots. panara had to go through during the pandemic. How repositioned extraordinarily well with their mobile app and many other things that they had done prior years as well as the innovations that they drove to the menu during the pandemic times and how he sees consumer behavior going forward in what that means for the business marketing. I hope you enjoy this conversation with my new friend. Eduardo lose edgewater. Welcome to the show. Hi ellen be here. I'm looking for you this conversation. I probably frequent pinera too much. But i'm sure you'd say there's never too much never watch your thought. We could start with some personal. Because everyone's going to hear your accent as soon as you start talking. So where'd you grow up. I'm shocked that you detected an accent though. I was born in brazil rio Born and raised actually leaving a lot of places in became a. Us sits in years back. Very proud to be Have dual citizenship. But i m going by graves with his brazilian accent. I guess well. There are worse accents to have listeners. Can't see you but you look like a beautiful brazilian person as well so my mother says. Thank you awesome awesome. Well you've had quite the career you started in accenture went onto. Abm bev may stop at unilever kraft heinz a now panara as the chief brandon concept officer. How'd you find your way to marketing. And when did it shift into leadership positions. Look very fortunate with the way my career turn up no i. I was raised in a blue collar. Family real. I had never left to my own country. Joe was like twenty one twenty two years old which saying dune speak english but then i joined american firm accenture a beck hall and the i joined air to practice in consumer goods in failing to have exposure to those type of industries simba. I felt love with the schumer space in those news. Recycle surfacing from day one and You know. I spent some time doing consulting Sponsored by the new s wrecking back. But you know. I knew that my career in these industry so i i have been doing. Cg for a long time. I work on the main verticals. Their care of the beverages on here and you know with binary i nine restaurants in the dow values a fascinating usery. I'm having a great time there. I didn't know that use had blue collar roots. I also your stat about not leaving home country until your early twenties Similar actually my wife laughs at me because she drug me to like mexico. I think for vacation and Otherwise had really never left north carolina in the us. So yeah it's funny. Tell me a little bit more. First time in the restaurant business restaurant industry. What's been the adjustment there. May you've obviously been in consumer products the alcohol category as well. What's the big shift for you. This shift director schumer at that direction and that changes a lot. The dynamic of how you manage the business so you know. We'll see jesse moyo of course you schumer. But that they could they relationship and experienced belongs your retailer nurse which is completely final of course is director schumer movement happening yearbook the large steel zika retailers. Detained and bobby navy relationship with the ankle schumer restaurants the very delightful part of the job. Is that whatever you do every day. You're schumer in the how calling venire our guests. You see what you're doing. The next day in the volpi defeat wallet. Someday you'll know what's happening or working working very quickly so we makes up for a very environments and each you are someone who likes to try new things as i do is a from besson user to be too long to be here. I'm glad that they did that's awesome. Yeah direct immediate feedback can be great especially if you're driving a new insights or new innovations and concepts so you joined pinera in may of last year. It was around the. I think in the. Us was around our first peek that we are experiencing in the pandemic. What was the state of the company at that point and like what were you coming in to do. Because as a difficult time to join any company but also a company in the restaurant business rights resmed says is you know warp. The heavy affected by the by the pandemic of course is not an exception. But the what the was doing their led by by my boss. Our ceo ranch chowdhury in the executive team on there has been trying to peter's emma. Just that reality reality rates of people working from home all of the Dependent changed dramatically everywhere including the us. What propelled this followers and bep lapel. Polat these Caliber of the team. That exists set benita. It's a high caliber him. The bulls people be have been through transitions in crisis. Ambika big patriots before so foreseen multiple pairs to prevent it but Scene that i think was prepared from a cultural perspective from my salary perspectives to read efface what we stays and the progress achieved have maids the fasts. You know seat seventy nine months is nothing short of unbelievable and the way we have being well when the pandemic hit in where we are now his vasic watch park off. What were you coming into. What was the role that you were brought in to mike chief grabbing loved shell. What what myself or my team are supposed to do. Is we have beauty brands over time. make the brand stronger depreciated the in all the good stuff but also a drive demands for the company in riding vision in all lavish of the men increase so the scope is is anybody verse rights. We have a channels. We have Captain pianos we have media sides culinary. These people liability pr sustainability of food values all of that falls into integrating Question bring building and the is a very fun school very challenging and the team that we have they are inspired me every day and that you know we have a lot of fun together that we can progress together. It sounds like a pretty big scoop to to your point used this concept of horizons. I don't know if you're familiar with it but like if horizon three is like long-term growth trajectory neither to'sell medium-term horizon. One feels like you're really kind of focus. Maybe a across horizon to horizon three to some degree with bringing things to life in horizon. One that you've been planning further outset that makes sense. That's a good way to describe. It's a i wake up every day for to our daily seniors was reports to see how we did. You know yesterday every day which is fun but again. Whatever we're doing as your normal today tomorrow is a consequence of decisions that you know three months ago six months ago and of course a longer term. But it's a very dynamic environment because whatever you thought about doing bland. The between our executing is working or north working. We know very very soon in the basin weeks so you know when when things hits the way they should be eating like you know when we launched the pizza back in october last year We could see that was working very soul and you know typically when we do things that didn't hit we know very quickly and we know that we have the pivots. That's what makes his industry soul interesting to be at least and so fascinating manage. You mentioned it before. The panara seemed to be positioned. Well you talked about the caliber of the people kind of weather the pandemic as an outsider looking in not knowing although the talent that you had it also looked like you're exceptionally ready like you've had an app for feels like forever. Apps were thing. You focused on pickup and delivery and pivoted really quickly to do that. Do you agree that you guys were. You had some good prior infrastructure choices that made this a little a little easier. I know it's not ever easy but a little easier to your advantage. No one hundred percents. We definitely benefited from the legacy of teams at king before our team has been a fire near in designing the street in so many nations rights thick knowledgeable option pure point apps the these groups demissie stores. Like you'll asks delivery network. We could some drivers this. I loyalty program at scale using the street. It completed Less year if we call life amira orbis assists members although saying they are assets and capabilities that To could use of course you know the fact that the team has been used over time. Will i mean the street leading. The street is also a cultural traits. That we we're thinking benefits from rights. We decided to go into a recovering. Bad news type of business with papa subscription own year two thousand twenty in that i in the industry and the kenyan grace challenge in significant progress and when you will force ellen there is no playbook right you have vividly yourself and the good thing about debt company and the teen is that the chinese used to take advantage of that knowing that you're positioned so well like did it accelerate your business in any way like i mean i'm i'm i'm i'm sure that like online and app orders Dramatically like change the mix immediately but a curious if you could just kind of characterize the shifts that were happening over the last year the ship has been very dramatic some of the channels where most of our business majority of our business used to be apprentice so people take advantage of our indians since service in all bats which is very efficient. Our business flipped and the today we are eighty five percent off premise. Channels light curbside delivery and up right through. Why of course here. That's where the our guests feels. Better a multi access. Your food in that shit's had school sequences in terms of how we can demand how we operate our profess profitability. So on so far that we have to adapt but the good news is that defined the mantle offering imposition of panera which is delicious food that the show great about eating in choosing is very solid in very differentiated channels shifted. People are still looking for. That's a solution that needs states even arthritis and we're taking advantage of that support and you've had some new menu a changes as of late. You mentioned pizza and we'll talk about pizza in a minute but before we do that addison new price points i think they're called valued duets and got plant based protein offerings. What was driving some of those developments because you're innovating in downturn essentially it to some degree your business model you're mix changing but also innovating the menu to walk we have done with. The team is at the height of the pandemic back. Mead last year we decided to dramatically. Simplify our mental emily. That's so we we took the tail off our by thirty percent and that of course open space for us to accelerate more innovation mouthed at the middle was simply fights and the vision of course price to follow in dissipates demands from our guests in what they're trying to solo in their lives when they choose so we we had. This offside blink based news already salads bowls big catherine for us in because she ranch items there but we knew that unique will sure behavior on the pandemic where people were trying to steeping lynch. Nordgren goes crawls in the later the wants things that are warm and hardship more substantial and that eventually can be shared Family so that's why we decided to accelerate the spread form that we call warming haji and the of course species Show but we have also warned roles which is basically a warm pro thing like chicken or vegetables in our biggest hits like making cheese sandwiches Role on that platform so what we have seen is that with the off premise. Major and people eating later today across the bay but especially poor dinner We shift our been moved to a more Warm seeming thanks. And that's where we solves a lot of success in criminality. That's now propelling business forward. It's amazing kazaa. You talk about simplifying the menu and some of the reductions that you did. I didn't even feel it and i go to. I go to pinero lot. Maybe it was in concert with the additions that you've made but it felt like there were more interesting combinations for me to pick from and the the warm meal aspect that you described was definitely something we would we would execute on in my house. It's funny because like you said we were going through the wintertime to most recently and just having a warm comfort food that you knew is still good for. You was a a really good purchase. Really good treat for yourself. Yeah and that steam. Let's show you just nailed. What the brand promise in essence media rights he. If we're doing a good job we're serving the most vicious with comforting delicious great simba all. That's but dependent promise. You're not going to regret that choice. It's cleaning rushing reasons scripted by chefs bakers. You know we have in teams that big fresh breads every day now. says in very proud of that tradition. So you know that that when you choose near you to get some read initials but you know as opposed to a lot of places. You'll feel great about that choice. And bob ingredients civic crafts. He's where the depreciation is and the virus we we feel that it's a message that resonates with a lot of people even stratus will. Let's talk pizza. You can't get more warm and inviting pizza so and you guys launched a flat bread pizza offering. I have to admit it did take me a little while for my family to get to the pepperoni pizza because i think demand was just too great in the local store. We were trying to get it from but we finally got one and it was delicious as promised but pizza is a big category. And i'm curious. What were you thinking you know. That's a big one. That's a big one to take on the look we'd be eating. Our equity mission. In baked goods baking added chapter. Pizza is actually the minds of our guests very natural extinction and i'm quoting costumer via here So it's not something that it's strange for our guests to see offered by our challenge in the teen challenge heads all is hardly make pizza defended our way and you know the to using readers so we use like very related is almost fits ascites flower that the us is a babble zero flower that you only find mutually love italy. Fresh tomatoes cheese rushmore. Sarah basil everything. Like bop watching riddance. Ill force we've already got rid of small to raised animals for proteins. Best our chefs scheme up with pizza led by chef while spectrum that it's We always auspey their rights. It's a zero degrees is just like him socialites. That when you when you eat the pizza you feel great next next our next two hours. You'll like tell so. Rights in this xactly be experienced that that you're supposed to be in. It's like because ingredients superior. There is no secret there what we have seen an in depth one worked s. Plants is that became one a different traffic driver for us from what we had before. True anchored hour later departs towards dinner way. That wasn't available to us before which is a very criminal but three the end up being a very good compliments waller traditional of salads soups savage. So the offering pizza our chat or tickets just increases. Because some of you have something for everybody in this family. Actually something that. The family usually shares biden know tweets her salads Someone always Have a or the side in. That is a pizza. Becomes very additional. Bet check so Very very pleased with flood that launch that we see a lot of traction there i think about it too because we've done this in my house I think you're hitting on this. Which is inherently sharable rate. If my wife. And i wanna have a salad as our main thing but we want to have some tasty pizza to buy pizza split side salads to enjoy as well in my daughter can get whatever she wants but it it did seem like a little bit of a shift from feeding the individual. You know like your pick two combinations of what i want to eat or you know a sandwich or salad or whatever to more of a sharable item so it was interesting. This is exactly. That's and when you do that so that you have a new occasion for dinner and you have a new of guests which is a family eating together and all those things in grammatical twists. That's awesome we talked about. You guys have done a lot of pivots over the last year menu changes business models Moving in shifting mix you also mentioned to me in earlier conversation abou that you're adding a dimension to your company valleys which is respect for the planet. I got that right correct. What does that look like. Because you mentioned. Cs our initiatives earlier in the conversation with does respect for the planet looked like. And what is. What are the actions that pinera's taking alan. We have no parading floor alongside even before me a very clear. Food values that we call it off. And they have been very far for us around clean ingredients responsibly. Raised animals and the tross parents in selective sourcing of ingredients although scenes up on she knew and they they make binary a by. That's why i agreed. Soul you appreciated and we were a fire near most of those nations when race them publicly few years back so we decided to point to lead the industry and we add it to your points suffering recalling respect for the planets and the idea is that nearly swift to be fire year on issues related to climate change in our industry. And we believe that as we did with the first chain to put the calorific value of our foods on our Explicitly defined everybody else. We need that by putting the carbon footprints backed that even you Has the planet. That's will the Overall societal from the standing off choices that people can make to help with climate change. We partnered with the world resources institute and they have a cheap dish in bed skull foods where there's a threshold of how much of poverty equivalence obliquely who generates and there are different thresholds depend on the day parts breakfast lunch dinner and we wear we our food. We launching that hugh that's called. Who foods who showed to schumer. Laura guests that plate of food is below the threshold that were resources to recommence of new. And we believe that's easily generates awareness. Location in overtime people will be able be proper visibility to make better choices for the clients in our courses is climate. Change to your point. I mean you guys have always been a leader in sustainability and this is just raising the bar. I guess on your own efforts And adding another leg to the stool so to speak at sounds amazing. I'll have to check out the world resources institute at i'm not familiar with them but sounds like they're doing really good work as well to promote this. This has been amazing. I wanna talk about the future. We've been talking about the past and what you guys have been doing. Where do you see. Twenty twenty one and beyond for either panera or marketing. In general like where do you think consumer are going and how is marketers. Do we need to meet them. Where they're going near of for sure We are emerging stronger up. some led by our seal You're on a in his team in our teams across the company and You know we are seeing already that the you know we have added as it's our choices keep abilities in the new thumbs and all that we had seen that went to stick from bennett and we will merge even a stronger brandon property up to that railway already seen. That's the way our sales of progress all that so excited to see what happens to the world postponed damage of wash. Some of the whole schumer behaviors that were accelerated. Pedantic especially the off brand is and the you know the shit gore's of working from home behavior it went to stick. And the you know we have to lead with that reality that to our guests preferences moving forward sword see went to look a little different from it was before the pandemic but i think that's to be expected so decided to when she serve our guests and we want to point cheating to bring more layers of experience every time they need to wreck so we are doing that of course now. More via digital technology lie are apt in how we interact with guests but of course in all the temples of the ran that we have our two thousand two hundred s they continue to be on the meeting assets that we have windy brains to life in week. It's welcome back our guest to our says as the pandemic receipts and we. We see that happening as we speak so excited about. What's i was excited about. What the second half of the year. Two thousand twenty one brain. I am looking forward to sitting in a restaurant and likely up. America as a and maybe subpoenaed warm beverage in front of the fireplace. That's there will be a welcome new. Are there warm for sure. I love it. will i want to switch gears. We already know that you. Your accent is brazilian but when it gets to know you a bit more in my favorite question to ask is whether there's an experience of your past that defines or makes up who you are today. Helen experienced that a that can shaped my thinking. You know i have to tell you about that. Hopefully not cheesy that that was had. He gives a married fourteen years now. In the hague three kids persistently searching atlanta eight penelope seven each one of them warning the different continents so we will look to the family but winning. We have kids you me. I realized that there's something much more importance in war rewarding the menacing that you can do given day at work and i personally some of the. I look forward to work on the weekends to us. As much time as i can with them and It's funny how they give you feedback futures work at. You're going for a i show ads. In things upgrade going to consumers to them some fans they liked it some fags. They are very often brutal that honesty. But yeah but experience parents. Being dad is something that completely changed my perspective on flights in there that that my life is much more fulfilling since i had this not cheesy at all and i. I'm glad you talked about your kids. And apparently your pinero focus group. That's at home. We'll what advice would you give your younger self if you're starting this career all over again. As i said. Brazil brazil brasilia's a military dictatorship. While i was growing up which crazy. Just think about this but was close county rights. advices will sooner the words You know where the action is bites So i'm few actually so rachel that things are not waiting to turn up. You know. I came to this country eventually. My family and the this country now is our county in all. That's my advice. Is that do it sooner like it silly questions. I asked these days to guests that come on shows a has there been impactful. Purchase one hundred dollars or less for us in the last six to twelve months. certainly globes. No we we bought a paddleboard. That's the that we dry You know we have a pleasing florida and now when we're there When we travel permits we have we love that. And i think that was the probably need largest purchase. I have made during the pandemic ideas in on. It's good exercise too. Good for your core trying to stand up on this thing. Two last questions. More marketing focused. But just looking for your personal opinion. Not necessarily your perspective from the job curious if there's brands or companies or causes that you follow or you you think other people should be taking notice so many rights that so many people doing good work is they as we speak today here we are coming together with a chef was in deceit. Two fights food-security together because of him and something that makes a lot of sense Panera so many people by kazan. Rats that do i. Special things for people were suffering or at risk. Especially if you're in the pandemic is something that new resonates very strongly many brands that follow him out admire that to the ones that do things consistently overtime in very clear emotional connection or points of differentiation. The ones that i i tend to have healthy and the about what you're doing is the might of the world the apples but the going of the world in that you know. I wish that there working with me up on other one day we will stick up wealthier doing great brands and jose andras as a chef. He's a he's a phenomenal force to be reckoned with Good for this world to. What's the largest opportunity or threat that you think marketers are facing today. I think i see a lot of marketeers very much. Sometimes speaking could be martin community stabbing speaking to the end consumer and yes. I think that's the trap. You know the the awards and the dea clever things but the the end of the day week year to serve a schumer survey guests and tried to make clear why we're being a solution that makes a difference in people's lives as low as better dina with your family or have lunch. And i sometimes markets use forgets mementos of what they're doing and i believed inseperab- we're trying to avoid. I think that's really smart. I'm glad to hear you say that because there. There's a lot of noise a lot of noise to focus on of your marketer. And you're not focusing on your guest and you're not growing your business you're chasing or the awards eventually it will catch up to. You may take awhile muffing. Nothing is awards reloaded but there was a guest. Exactly exactly you gotta do. Both right will eduardo. Thank you so much going on the show. it's always a privilege. Thank ellen appreciate it. The hope you'll stay well. Thank you Hi it's allen again. Marketing today was created and produced by me with support from my team and podcast editor sound engineers and writers at share your genius find them at share your genius dot com. If you're new to marketing today please feel free to write us a review and i tunes or your favorite listening platform. Don't forget to subscribe on marketing today. Podcast dot com and tell your friends and colleagues about the show. I love to hear from listeners. You can contact me on marketing today. Podcast dot com there. 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January 27th: Gary Goldman HR 1
"Wake up it's time for mornings with gail and thirteen ten. Kfi sanders fashion. Fago at at the inauguration as he sat all alone all by himself in a schlumpy parker and those oversized argyle mittens. You know the ones that sparked some pretty hilarious. Internet means well in a clever marketing. Move panara says all you need is glove six. Oh eight now thirteen ten. Kfi a thirteen ten kfi a dot com northern colorado's voice mornings with gail via the auto collision specialists duty. As we all love pinera's bread bulls right. Well they've taken on an additional use but this one not edible panara announcing on tuesday that they have a new and improved a bread bowl not for human consumption. But it's meant to hold something no not. They're lovely broccoli cheese soup. Don't you love an broccoli soup. I adore it now. It's designed to hold something a bit more surprising. Iced coffee yes. It's not made a bread so please don't try and take a bite out of it. 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Potential candidates received the number of votes necessary to be enshrined into cooperstown. It's the first time once again that the baseball writers association of america didn't choose anyone since two twenty thirteen. And if you're a baseball fan. I'm guessing you probably know the reasons. Why schilling bonds clements. They'll have one more opportunity to make the hall of fame that'll be next year but then that's it it's kaput after that because that will be their final time on the ballot schilling three time. World series champion was votes shy of the seventy five percent. Mark that would have made him a hall of famer. Last year he was twenty votes short hayes making progress selling pits for twenty major league baseball seasons. He had two hundred and sixteen career. Wins with a three point. Four six era and three thousand one hundred sixteen strikeouts. He finished second in the cy. Young voting three separate times schilling most remembered for pitching game six center for the faint of heart. This is a warning a disclaimer. Because this a little gross but pitching game six so the two thousand four aol this against the yankees with a bloody sock which derived from an ankle tendon injury bloody sock was a byproduct of the stitches pressing against his tendon. Despite all that all the pain and suffering was worth it. Red sox ended up winning. The game eventually put an end to their eighty six year. Wait for a world series title schilling rather prosaic about this entire scenario after. He failed to make the cut for the national baseball hall of fame using his twitter. Now he hasn't been banned saying it's alright. The game doesn't only anything. Bonds in the meantime received sixty one point. Eight percent of the votes clements had sixty one point six percent of the votes. Both of them fell shorts of being inducted into the baseball hall of fame. For the ninth time. And as i previously alluded to if you follow baseball. I'm sure you have your suspicions as to what's really going on here. Many suspect that both have used performance enhancing substances playing days which is why they get to be enshrined joining chilling clements and bonds. On next year's ballot will be. Alex rodriguez and david ortiz. Rodriguez was suspended for all the two thousand fourteen season for violating a major league baseball's p. e. d. policy perform performance enhancing drugs and collective bargaining agreement. Ortiz had his name allegedly Appearing on a list of players who tested positive back in two thousand three cap wonder if their trajectory. We'll be the same as a clemens and bonds but no players elected into the national baseball hall of fame for twenty twenty one. Six six now thirteen ten. Kfi a thirteen ten kfi k. A. dot com this time check brought to you by candlelight. 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But doesn't the fact that the chief justice john roberts taking a pass on these proceedings because you know typically it's the chief justice of the supreme court the presides over a senate impeachment trial but does that. Send a distinct message. Well i suppose even though it's pretty much a fool's errand in my humble opinion for the senate to foster this impeachment trial but it hasn't choice because once the house sent over that single article of impeachment against president trump of four in their estimation and we can argue this For the next few weeks if you'd like For inciting an insurrection at the capitol on january sits senate has no choice they basically have to go through with the pretense of a senate trial but is it as a president. Trump said the first time around. Is this nothing more than a continuation of sham witch hunt and really is the end game when you think about it. Nothing more than the democrats to some degree showing their cards. Because i can't help but think what's at play here okay. We all know they. Despise president trump. They despise him the minute. Former president trump. They despise tim the minute. He came down the golden elevator and trump towers to announce his candidacy took the washington. Post all of what nineteen hours. After his inauguration to announce that impeachment proceedings had begun this before his presidency had even begun so the writing pretty much on the wall. But what is their real goal here. Well i think they're showing their cards because they want him out of political life. But here's the thing there overlooking even if they were successful and Securing a victory in the senate which looks increasingly impossible because they need seventeen count em seventeen republicans to flip at last count. There are five republicans who said they would vote to impeach the president in the senate trial. Well that's not game set match to prevent him from running for public office again from running for the presidency in two thousand twenty four. No there would be a separate vote that would distinctly and precisely preclude him from running again for dogcatcher is the case may be let alone president. So what are your thoughts on all this this morning. Nine seven three five three thirteen ten. Is this nothing more than petty vindictive rancor on the part of the democrats and what about the president. Joe biden's Inauguration speech in which he called for healing and for unity. Does this impeachment charade. Because that's what essentially it is isn't even constitutional. No that's one of the reasons. Why john roberts said nah you go ahead on without being he sending a very distinct message because of the impeachment clause is very very specific constitutionally impeachment. A political game is used to remove a sitting president which former president note the word former former president is no longer sitting in the big chair in the oval office. He is now a private citizen. Oh yes back. In the eighteen hundreds some might argue. That was used against the cabinet number. Okay fine cabinet. Remember a resigned before he was impeached. But is this fair play. You tell me nine seven three five three thirteen ten dropped me a text on our thirteen ten k. A tax line. Tell you what. We're going to check in with gary goldman. Gary is a syndicated radio. Host of business politics and lifestyles heard across new england. And he's author of a great book my big mouth and the ugly truth taking the stressed out of opinions of verses facts. What's going to be a spirited opposition at six thirty five so stay with us six thirty now. Thirteen ten kfi k. Pure mornings with gail weekdays. Six to nine and northern colorado's voice thirteen ten kfi k. Or local. Talk coming up next with noko now in northern colorado's voice thirteen ten kfi. Brian sham trial in the senate. Nothing more than posture kabuki theatre. A fool's errand you had forty five. Senate republicans voting just yesterday saying an impeachment. Trial of a former president is unconstitutional yet. Think and chief justice. John roberts and of course the chief the supreme court typically presides over a senate impeachment trial saying now you go on ahead without me. I'm taking a pass. Is this entire process justin. On constitutional sham joined this morning by gary goldman he is the syndicated radio host of business politics and lifestyles heard across new england and author of a great book my big mouth and the ugly truth taking the stress out of opinion of versus facts. Gary welcome on in having me on this morning. I certainly appreciate your taking the time. So what is your take on the senate impeachment trial. I had to laugh. Because you've got that. Oklahoma politicians saying that we need to go chase. Bigfoot more successful chasing big foot than impeaching a former president how about you. I agree with you. This is a sham. This is you know vindictive part of its vindictive behavior on the part of the democrats part is they they. They're they're still so worried about donald trump rerunning twenty twenty four that they want to do whatever they can just to make sure that doesn't happen. Of course there could be a donald trump running in twenty twenty four and it may be donald trump junior. So we'll have to wait and see but you know. Listen this is a waste of time. It's a waste of money. But i'm not surprised. It's a continuation of the type of leadership lack of of that we had during the obama administration. The continued now The democrats do not want to do anything. On behalf of the american people they just want to slide things through so if they can spend some time chasing down donald trump and trying to convict him which is never going to take place Waste a lot of time and money. They're okay with it because they're not that concerned about what the american people want did just can dictate what the american people are going to get. We're seeing that with president biden right now. Now it's absolutely terrifying. I do see this administration as obama. Two point zero. I mean you look. We're going to get rice again for four years. Look at a lot of the cabinet picks but Least obama said well. I have a phone and a pen. Apparently president biden doesn't even need a phone. I mean last count. He's he's signed thirty nine executive order some of them. Job killing executive orders. When you look at the keystone excel pipeline and what he's doing as far as drilling permits on federal lands waters. A fortieth is expected today. What gives look at it. And and you're right. I call the ceo of the obama administration. The three the first three. We've rarely ever had obama biden and harris but with that said what kids is they are so come with trump derangement and all of the success that president trump have that many presidents republicans and democrats in the past. Could not do what this president did. They wanna just abolish everything. Think of it. They want to open the border. Let people into this country. We have a pandemic going on. I mean who in their right mind would want additional people coming into this country when we can't even deal with the situation we have it in. Never mind the whole a galadima. But that's you know we're going to be kicking. That can down the road again for a while with this administration but look at the motivation of biden is to Is to set himself up to you. Get rid of anything. Trump did and to move further and further left with the of the world. And there's no doubt in my mind that's where we're going here. There's no doubt meant to consolidate power right that's out it's to consolidate power and You know the the the other part of this. Just as amazing. When i think when i sit and ponder what's going on you know this administration and the democrats do not believe that they only believe that are people count and they're the only ones that voted. Never mind they say seventy five million. I think it's more like eighty ninety million people that voted for president trump. But with that said that they're not taking that into account. And i do believe there will be a price to pay so long as the republican party that is in washington now can develop a spine and some backbone in the next few years to fight the democrats and not just bow down to everything. They wanna do that. Circular firing squad mentality that they are just infamous for but aren't able to do that. Will they be able to take a hard look at what it is. They're doing. And i mean you know there are calls for mitch. Mcconnell former senate majority leader to just go away as he flip flopped. Just recently on the filibuster yet mitch. Mcconnell is a is is part of the swamp erode donald trump's coattails to make sure he was reelected Whomever gets into office. He will change his demeanor his persona and do whatever he has to stay in power. He is the prime example of the type of policy titian that we need to get out of washington. He has no again no spinal backbone what he said on the house floor in regard to trump and the rally that day. No truth to that When you read when you read the excerpts of what trump had to say. But he's going along with the other side for who knows what reason you know. look at. Yeah we have to believe that all of them you know all of these politicians left and right now all of them but the ones that remain in that rhino sphere. There's something dirty. There's something there that they don't want to be told. And they just concede to the other side. Because why why else would he just gave in like that is. He's that hungry for power you've got to look at the relationship with his wife and china. I mean there's so many things that we could go through but he is someone that needs to go. I agree here. Thank you so much for bringing that up because you talk about the swamp and of course much to the chagrin of politicians on both sides of the aisle who have their hands out particularly to china that had been benefiting financially for years. No wonder they were just all up in arms over. What the disruptor president was doing his efforts to clean up the swamp. Gary goldman by the way syndicated radio host of business politics and life styles hurt across new england and author of the book my big mouth and the ugly truth taking the stress out of opinions versus facts. You know i wanted to ask you. What's responsibility in your mind. If any does a president trump bear for those horrific scenes that we saw coming out of the capital's capital was stormed on january. Six people lost their lives. Another capital police officer reportedly took his own life after the events that transpired that day. What responsibility does president trump bear for the actions of the agitators. Who could the edgerton. I firmly believe and having to talk to people. I've spoken to people off the record. That i firmly believe agitators well placed in that crowd. Agitators got many of the trump a lot of trump supporters wound up. Those that were you know were apt to act that way and did what they did. I've listened to a lot of the president's rhetoric. I don't always agree with everything he says. I love his policies and things that he's done. I don't see the connection to to president trump. I no one has been able to prove to me and show me anything that he says go to capitol hill get into that building and You know change the will of the change show them what the will of the people are there. There's nothing there that indicates that he has that liability to look at. We can always make an argument. Gail that he. He could've talked it down a little more. He should have had the thought process the knowledge that something could happen but the capitol. Police didn't even have that assumption. That the police chief in washington capitol police said we've never had a problem at a trump rally. I i think at some point just like with the results of this election and what happened at the capital. At some point. The truth is going to come out. We're going to find that there were agitators there. That were the initial cover to this. And i'm not condoning any of the behavior on the part of the trump people. Anybody who did what they did. I'm a law and order type guy. You break the law. I don't care what you know. A dr independent in front of you name. You're going to have to pay a price. And when people lose their lives that's even more horrific man or a woman as here all right. What about the oregon republican party coming out and calling the capital riots of false flag. Your take ya look at. I'm i'm not. What comes out of the oregon republican party. I'm i don't put much insight into. But i you know i'm not sure what to make of that. Tell you the truth gail. I'm not sure what they're trying to get at what they're what the whole deal is there but Anything that comes out of oregon that part of the country right now. They have first of all i. I look at oregon and that that side of the world right now is proved to me. You can get law and order in your own communities in your own state. And then i'll maybe have a discussion with you. Joe biden wants inaugurated. It's like what are you guys what what will make you happy you well. Yeah i mean what they want is complete. They wanna take over the government. They wrote that used biden biden provided them with the cover during the campaign thinking was helping them and then on the inauguration day they said hey thanks a lot but we're still going to fight this out. 'cause this is not we don't we're not even sure we want you and empower. Here's what i don't understand. After a summer of violence as we saw those air quote peaceful protests turned into anything but as we saw major cities across the country burn. Businesses destroyed we saw riots. We saw people getting hurt. People getting killed democrat. Party are just oddly. Not just mum about that until until the polls told them. Hey you know what. This isn't playing too well for you. Not coming out against this violence but oddly after the capitol hill ride riots. Somehow the republicans have been painted as the party of anarchy and violence the public the republican party. Look we have to remember. Let's just go with the seventy seventy five million people. That voted for the president. The republican party and the the voters need the party and the leaders in the party. Tell them you have a voice and we have to get out there and when the democrats say something like that we have to counter that with fact after fact as to what went on in this country. How many people's lives were devastated from these rights. Businesses were ruined people killed. Police officers killed there. Were cecil police. Police officers around the country all because of that rhetoric and the democrats didn't say anything. The problem is republican party. Sits back and people have to get out there peacefully and make a point and let them know that we're not going to sit back and just take whatever the democrats say. The democrats want us to agree to whatever they say bowed to us about of them and move on and they will say whatever. They want to say because they've been allowed to do this. Seventy five. million people are a lot of voters and we have. We have a voice out there in our voice has to be heard through the proper channels and syndicated radio host of business politics and lifestyles heard across new england and a perfect segue. You are pro. Gary talking about facts To your book and my big mouth and the ugly truth taking the stress out of opinions versus facts tulsa gives the readers digest version and let us know where we can find your buck. Yeah the reader's digest version is as you know in the work we do. We take a lot of calls. We talked to people. People are entitled to their opinion or just in social events. But when you have a conversation it has to be based on facts. That can't be based on offended because what we get is a lot of misinformation and people start surmising that so and so's opinion is is what it's all about. So i did several interviews with key people You know in all sorts of disciplines and we had conversation and could have been on the left or right based on factual information. We may have agreed to disagree but we just didn't throw hearsay out there. You have to start that dialogue with factual information otherwise political correctness windscale and that is never a good thing. One of these days. I wanna get into the conversation with you about big tech Talking about political correctness this as this morning Youtube came out and said nope nope donald. You can't come back yet boy. I'll tell you what you talk about. Freedom of speech perhaps even first amendment issues. This is something chairman mao would be very very proud of is a big problem in this country and those data closing there is to it because trump derangement syndrome and the hatred to this president. Go may find out the hard way that they should have opened their eyes when this started happening. It's been happening for quite a while now. But what's happened. Since the sixth of january to the president is outrageous and nobody should tolerate. It shouldn't have anything to do with your political affiliations here. Thanks so much for all your time your insights here. Perspective certainly enjoyed the conversation again. Where can we find your book. Big south in the ugly truth. You can find it on amazon or on my website gary on epl dot com. There's a link to purchase the book. There sounds like a plan. Take good care and thanks again. Thank you very much. Gary goldman six fifty one now. Thirteen ten kfi k. It's a party in northern colorado's force thirteen ten. Kfi a block party wednesdays from four ten pm. If you miss any portion of mornings with gail go to thirteen ten. Kfi k. a. dot com. Download the podcast today. Bacteria between four zero to thirty four yesterday as many as seventeen vehicles according to austin plus in prairie mountain media. Seventeen vehicles northbound. I twenty five between colorado for two and us thirty four and east loveland. Just yesterday resulted in only thankfully minor. Injuries caused the i. Twenty five northbound to close for several hours now. The accident occurred shortly after twelve thirty and ended up involving fifteen to seventeen vehicles including three semi tractor trailers and four large bans. Several cars involved in the accident were smashed between semis and other vehicles including a pickup pushed rear end up in the air against the hood of a semi and a ban pushed over a concrete barrier into the southbound lanes of i twenty five six people were taken to hospitals after the crash but thankfully once again all of the injuries appeared to be minor but one of the concerns of was leaking fuel crews on the scene Cleanup detail estimated. They were dealing with a two hundred gallons of fuel. 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006. the cuban sandwich ft. chef louie estrada
"Dear gringos please. Stop calling it. A coup bano colorado. Cuban sandwich see us humans. We mean it because a kuwano is a cuban person And also i'm sorry but you don't sound cool when you run around being like cou bano stay in your lane. Oh i went there. You went there so you might think what. I'm trying to learn spanish and so i'm trying to take one. Oh cubans don't call it guano cubans call it on son which gone if you're trying to learn spanish say the whole thing and spanish yokio wound sandwich guano. And if you're miami this is how you say sandwich. Son glitch son each s. a. n. g. u. i. c. h. Trust me we're offering you a lot of options depending on whether you're like actually trying to learn spanish or not maybe. Just call it a cuban sandwich. Can we all agree so salty. I'm a little salty about this. Sorry guys saltier than the cuban sandwich itself doom sh. Hey karma and ada what's up what's up is let me just go ahead and lay it out there to how this episode came to be today. We're talking about the very famous cuban sandwich people keep asking me. What is the best cuban sandwich in x. city whereas the best cuban sandwich in new york and honestly up until very recently. I have always answered that question with. I'm sorry it does not exist. The best cuban sandwich is only in florida specifically. I would say miami. But once i got into the research for this episode. I realized it's not necessarily miami. But okay carmen. hold on. hold on hold on. Miami's like not the center of the universe for everything cuban. It's not much to my shock. There's three controversies to the cuban sandwich. Is it even cuban bed okay. What city takes credit for it. Is it miami i am. That's what i saw in. The last controversy is what are the actual ingredients. And i think that's where it really started for me but carmen isn't there only one cuban sandwich. Okay you know what. Let me tell you. The day that i walked into a panera and i saw on the menu Kumano and they had black forest ham on it. And i was like. I'm sorry i cannot dine here anymore. goodbye there. There's a lot of controversy. I was just thinking of like a really dramatic scene at panera or just like a walk in and and like storm right out. No one knows why no one knows why that knowing me. I would totally pull something like that. Just imagine a cuban sandwich on lake focaccia bread or like on an italian bread or something else. I'm trying to get carmen to throw up. Which actually isn't that hard. Wow freedom brought that here in you for that anyway. Back to the cuban sandwich we have. All these controversies. There's a bunch of people cities and more who have opinions about the sandwich and now it's all over. The place is panara So let's dive into the first controversy right the question of how is it possible that the cuban sandwich may not be cuban So like any part of the cuban sandwich from the island. It's actually very difficult to pinpoint the exact moment that the cuban sandwich was made. And who exactly made it. But i've read that more than five hundred years ago. The diana tribe began making asaba. Bread made from yuga and started making the sandwich at the time. They had not yet been colonized by the spanish and so he didn't have any pigs. So part was not quite yet. It was believed that they made the sandwich with stuffed fish and bird meet at the center and the bread was still very crunchy. Because it's yuka brad. It would be more like a cracker than really a doughy bread. So we're going to say that. That's the very beginnings of this concept and then later on it completely morphed into a different sandwich. I think we're we're starting at is describing. The earliest account of a sandwich made in cuba by cubans the original cubans. I would say diana's who were one of the many indigenous people existing in the caribbean was saying that this is the first iteration of the cuban sandwich we have today. But let's say this is the first time a sandwich was made in cuba. It was known as a sandwich after the finals. Made this fish and bird me inside these crunchy cracker europeans as we know mainly the spaniards came over. And we know they brought pigs and so meats like pork and ham being introduced at this time into the native diet as well. There were sandwiches in cuba before the cuban sandwich that we know today came about afrita. Does it even matter to mention cuba. Because is the cuban sandwich cuban. Well let's get into the people living in ebor city. Ebor city is spelled. Y b o r. It is in tampa and so in the mid eighteen. Hundreds pre revolution tampa as well as new york is where you would find a ton of cubans because a lot of cubans came over to work in cigar factories. But it wasn't just cubans right carmen. There were other people anymore city in the mid eighteen hundreds the cuban tobacco industry. I came to florida specifically in key west and a little bit later. It moved up north tampa specifically ebor city and with these factories. Cam lots of immigrants who came to work not only cubans but spanish italian and jewish people. I mean tail is oldest times right. Immigrants show up at a place in the work that they find his in factories. These people need a quick affordable lunch in their break of the day when they're working in factories and so that is where we enter with the cuban sandwich the development of the cuban sandwich at this time begins with cuban bread. Many of our listeners may never have tried cuban bread but cuban bread was actually apparently also invented in tampa so there was a a bakery called. Loeven francesca orlova an francisco bakery established in the late eighteen hundreds by a sicilian born francie school friendly the who was actually a cuban spanish italian immigrant like what concoction. What a combination and so. It's believed that he created the particular style of bread called bread which we now find in cuba as well and we find all over miami and so it's really interesting to again tracy origins of this ingredient that we believe is essentially cuban but created by an immigrant living in the diaspora. So cuban bread is crispy on the outside soft on the inside it creates so many crumbs when you buy into it and it has lard in it because the most cuban thing you can do is something like bread instill make it have park in the ingredients. I still remember the day that i found out. Cuban bread by itself has like eight hundred calories and one slice. If you've ever had a cuban brennan you think how is possible. Because cuban bread in itself is so fluffy and airy on the inside and it's all it's all a lard. One of the things i used to do. When i was a kid was now. I'm like wow what an asshole freda by parents used to buy cuban bread and on the way back home. I stick my little kid hands into the center and eat the core of the cuban bread and leave the outside. The inside was like so chewy and saw. That's where the good stuff is. My parents would come home in the they take up the bread and it still looked like it was intact ahead just hollowed it out. Yeah you can't have a cuban sandwich without cuban bread. I will say that one more time for the people in the back. You cannot have cuban sandwich without cuban bread cool. We can move on now. The next thing is back in the day it was made with pork ham turkey genoa salami swiss cheese sour pickle slices and mustard on this cuban bread. That was the sandwich that immigrants were eating in ebor city. That at the time was not called a cuban sandwich that was called when mixed because of the mixed meets later. The english speakers began to call it. A cuban 'cause they watch those cubans eat those sandwiches and they were like well. This is a cuban like that's really there's also a specific restaurant that claims to have created. This meek still sandwich. That later on became the cuban sandwich. And it's called columbia restaurant. It still exists to this day. New can still visit it. What we know about the origin of this makes dough sandwich. At least the mythology is that different ingredients came from different immigrants so in a way. It's like this beautiful melting pot of a sandwich right. So the spanish brought the ham yup italian sicilians brought the genoa salami. Yep any has to be. Genoa brought the turkey way turkey. Yeah four camp turkey. Genoa salami swiss cheese our pick. Wait a second carmen. I love the fact that you said. Who brought the turkey. Okay because the original cuban sandwich from tampa does not have turkey. And oh really. Because i'm reading the us from arizona magazine carmen. I m citing the resolution the historic tampa. Cuban sandwich does not have turkey. it free. I love that. We're having this debate because this is the conwy literally got into the argument. In the meantime. I know and this is exactly what the debate has been for a very long time. This is the entire controversy. No one can agree on what the actual ingredients are and by the way. We're over here unpacking. All of us and we are to go on s from miami. We do not believe in this salami business. We're like yeah. no. I've never had never in my life had a cuban sandwich with salami in it but here i am reading be resolved by the city council of the city of tampa florida section. One i literally reading part of a resolution that the city council of tampa actually listed all the ingredients. I don't know where the turkey comes from. That's the thing. Okay now i know where did the mohammed needed roast pork com cubans. Some people think okay they say the germans and the jewish immigrants added the swiss cheese pickle and mustard. That actually made so. That's like the story and so we have the birth of the cuban sandwich. So where does miami come into play all right. So the cuban sandwich was made popular by miami specifically cubans in miami. So it's official. That tampa takes credit for the creation of the cuban sandwich and they have a list of ingredients which freda has read. And then miami really put it on the map. Miami has a lot. More of a poll with tourism and international communities than tampa does and so miami really made the cuban sandwich popular. Let's just say the cubans. Miami are a little louder than the channel k very true and not not because they are inherently louder but because as a community there are so many of us. Miami became the place where cubans went to after the revolution. The cuban sandwich from tampa down to miami in the late nineteen forties because the cuban population in miami began growing just before the revolution in nineteen fifty-nine. Miami gave it a makeover removing the salami. There's also a couple things at miami changed as well. For instance the cuban bread. I grew up eating a cuban sandwich. Press thin on a plunger yemi to you. Code it with butter. You press it on a lunch on a sandwich. Press in outcomes like a really crispy flatten bread that also melts cheese. But that hasn't always been through. The cuban sandwich in tampa was actually not pressed in the resolution. Cuban bread made in tampa was scored with palmetto palm. Fronds this rivalry between miami and tampa over. Who takes credit of of the cuban sandwich had been going on so long and so strong that twenty twelve the actual matter was put to a vote and it was resolved by popular vote that the city of tampa florida is to take credit for making the cuban sandwich and it is specifically called the historic tampa. Cuban sandwich. i also read somewhere that they were considering. Trademarking it at some point. But then we're like this is going to be an issue where everyone has going to have to approach the city of tampa whenever they make cuban sandwich and they're just like you know we can deal with that like that's too much for the city of tampa. Just that's when you're like. Oh jesus way too far with this sandwich thing. So people have been asking me for ages. As i've mentioned whereas the best cuban sandwich and i have been on the hunt. I cannot say that. The search for the best. Cuban sandwich has been exhaustive. But i can definitely say that. I have tried to cuban sandwich that has made my heart sing and that cuban sandwich lives at mike. Cubans spot abe anthony. That in go on his brooklyn founded in started by chef. Louis through which we had the pleasure of connecting with and interviewing for this episode. miami people. Please don't come for me or come from me. I don't know. I stand by what i say. I think that mike cuban spots cuban sandwich is better than the cuban sandwiches i've had in miami there. I said it. Sorry not sorry. It's because the cuban sandwiches in miami used sliced pork and look sliced. Pork is okay. It's good but when you're using where causal in that sandwich do it really takes it from good to heavenly. Okay trust me on this one. Thank you chef louis for showing me the way seriously hot. Take a lot of times when you're the place that does the thing you check out a little bit. You're like here. we are doing the thing. We make thousand sandwiches a day. We feed it to our cuban people. Everyone loves it. But like when you get out of your fish tank and you go to another city you have to bring it. You know you can't just do the thing. That's been don over and over again in miami presenting unity and you're trying to put forth the bus the possible. Yeah it's true if you include delicious late home cuban pork that we've talked about so much if you put that at the center of cuban sandwich it's gonna be to die for you just have to like us our traditional best tasting ingredients. And that's it. And i gotta say i had to last There eating the sandwich having the time of my life and a look over in. I see a bunch of dingoes sitting there. Eating their sandwiches. Patagonia sweaters in their beanies leg chowing down and i think to myself. Wow what a juxtaposition you know. However many years ago back in the eighteen hundreds the people that would have been down in the same capacity would have been so different and now here we are in brooklyn with a bunch of getting goal is sitting there in the middle of winter. Eating a cuban sandwich. I don't hate it but it's definitely a very interesting musing in a very interesting observation right now. We're talking about all of these ingredients and all of this controversy and we decided to go ahead and talk to the guy. Louis rather we are joined today by my cuban spots chef founder and owner. Welcome louis thank you so much for joining us. Thank you guys for having me. Well let's get into it. We can you just quickly tell us what are the absolute must have ingredients of a proper cuban sandwich opera. Cuban salvage bossy. Now it's mustard. Pickles boiled ham. Swiss cheese needs to be swiss. And you need a quirk however you want to cook that as its work. You need good cuban bread and i say good cuban bread because there is but out there so you need good cuban bread and butter and a lotta love can elevate cuban sandwich and try to ten different things with it with an early and this and that and a different kind of in different. Kinda choose absolutely then. It's no longer cuban sandwich. This is a personal opinion. Cuban is a cuban. that's it you can make pickles. That's fine you can make your own hand light display's a good friend of mine we studs so the difference with my name is just this report but this report is something that you will use on bond greenwich since the start of time. Shredded quirk paxton. More flavor cooking times are different between slice work and credit for per slice work. You gotta crooked higher At a lower time right do you might be cooking three fifty four to five hours whereas this is really low and slow. So it's two fifty eight to fifteen hours. I cook mine for fifteen. I came up with a method of. How do i do this in this tiny little shop and get away with it. I can't cook a during the day and then re-cook tomorrow. It's too much work so i started cooking it at night before we left. Thank god that within the company as me figured it out. It's the bone at seven eight nine ten but ours. It's fifteen minutes cuban to me because the recipe is still the same. I didn't reinvent the wheel. It's people's mobile's that change whether it's a citrus or the soul or the human that's what changes for different shops people like more acidity in their mojo. I created a consistency with mobile. When i get into competitions. That's what they call. The traditional pleading me grew up on bland. Cuban sandwiches where they good to us. Yeah there were delicious but they were colder. A cold cuts insiders a little cold but it is nice and warm so i wanted the whole bike to be like that nice warm texture and then finished off with the pora. So that's that. I actually think it's better than what i have been searching for good. Thank you because i agree. I mean listen. We i cook in general is something that makes you close your eyes and takes me back into nostalgia. Even when people that don't know about the culture it takes you somewhere right so you don't have to be a part of the cuban culture for flew to take us over at the end of the day. I need people take you by people. That tastes miami and it wasn't successful anywhere outside of florida that i tried so the cuban sandwich for me was like as simple as in bunker homily gasoline on sa at you bite into it and it took your grandmother's house right after school or it took you or took me to us when i would just grabbed cuban sandwiches out the window or took me to park when i would have bungled at twenty after we played a game and then like argentina so all these things especially the sandwich was something that came from my childhood. The reason like cuban sandwiches are popular. Because it's easy to read on. Many an american that speaks spanish is going to sit there and be like. Oh the cuban sandwich. I know that someone have a cuban sandwich. And then i was in the bar scene in restaurant scene for a long time. And that's you know what started to really kick start my passion. I had already cooked long before. It wasn't a shot by didn't go to corner school. I could cook or my dad's a bad ass in the kitchen. And i would always like watch. What my dad. My grandparents were doing. I went from bartending in restaurants to learning the in and out from the back to the front from the kitchen to go dishwashing to everything. I was inspired at one. Point to open a cafe slash speakeasy more but when i looked at the location. I said there is no bar. But i can do about as i need the right here. There was already a window there. And i said human the papers. I know i had the barn vision. But i didn't get it and i said what it's time to shake things up because people don't know about foods had three months to get back into the kitchen stove while i was working at the bar and kind of just perfect. The recipes too many opportunities in new york will come through that often. Let's do the lightning round. All right all right. I love a good lightning round. The cuban sandwich blanchard or no plunger both i use a black breast weights on it and flip it to equal on both sides but during my events i do use plunger Make sure it's at the right temp and that you're pressing it enough for the cheese to melt inside. of course. yeah that's so important. Okay but the little gasol or buffalo. Ooh but and and with raisins or no raisins. You guys are good. When i was growing up at raisins once a week maybe no reasons another weaker so only because some kids didn't like it. Some kids wanted it. So i personally gonna go without raisins and it doesn't mean that it should be made without. I'm going back to my childhood. I used to pick them off. But i love the flavors with raising. That's why i can say either were no. I'm the same. I definitely used to pick them off as a kid. I it is i love him. No yeah yeah. I love it now. It has a lot of that as a kid my plea would be empty and then you have on the side but no i love him. That was cooking for my grandparents. I would cook traditionally with threes. So yeah we so alito cafe on lecture. Easy miami are ebor. Miami or havana from amana club. I'm the same. I'm the same from going nostalgic. I'm going up seven year. Yeah yeah. I'm going to be set or energy. Aren't gonna meet their pit bull or hinted sona isla our little havana and and down for highly athletes out there but tyler often drive ocean drive. Wow can i go fifty fifty. You'll have eh my life. But i did a lot of years notion drive. Let's go unlock coyotes. You all right. And i'm just gonna say domino park those donors or blood anita model model. And we'll end with ileka nadia or Isn't even a question. This is the training that bit a scientist. I actually this is the sean attias and down and down. Actually if we would have asked this person you would have answered versailles as we would have just stopped the that's it you've been discredited like i don't think this is the guy we should've been has on their list. I've a lot of lists for people on some people put precise on their list and list for other people you know. Hey i'm going out a man. You can make a list for me for cuban spots. The only thing that should be behind size is it's been there forever and if you want nostalgia and the fact that it's legendary because it is it's been there and it's got off the bull absolutely ba- food and culture. You'd like me zone angry when you got you. Got all the answers right. Even though there were no wrong answers. We have one last question tag to me. Any thoughts on like all of these other innovations of cuban sandwiches that are not really human. No i take it as a compliment as far as the cuban sandwich close people wanna mimic it. It's not so much that they're trying to create the best cuban sandwich. I think what they're trying to do is create their own. Why it's because something we touched on before. It's because the word cuba cuban cubano kubina has become very popular have no qualms about it at the end of the day. You're just bringing more traffic to the cuban name and kuban nose and cuban sandwiches. So i'm all for it. Thank you so much louis. This is really really fine. I am so glad that you set it up. Thank guys likewise so folks. Go ahead and enjoy a cuban sandwich. If you ever find yourself thinking you see a cuban sandwich in the wild take a picture of it describe it. Send it to us. Let's have a conversation. Let's see is this cuban. Is it not is it. A sandwiches is not. I don't know while we're over here. Discussing and debating ingredients like not also talk about vegan. Vegetarian cuban sandwiches. So i've tried a vegan cuban sandwich at vegan. Cuban cuisine in miami and jessie are graphic. Artists has actually tried the one vegan cuban cuisine as one in plantation. Florida called parlor and both are amazing. Just wanna shout out the amazing creativity and being able to recreate the sandwich that makes us feel aesthetic. So i haven't had a cuban sandwich in like ten years and i had it just this year vegan. Cuban cuisine at it took me back home. So thank you so much a break down some of the ingredients. I'll say that. This comes from my taste buds. Because i haven't reached out to them to find out what they do. They use jack fruit as the pork. They made their own mojo. They use vegan ham vegan. Cheese mustard is already vegan. I might have tasted a little bit of vegan as or at least a vegan butter and they made a cuban bread that didn't have large in it but still had the same texture. They pressed it on a lunch. It was delicious. So thank you to those of you out there making sure that everyone can have access to delicious cuban food so the one is more argo. Any small in this episode is sad neck on goto. Baker sandakan gusanos began literally translates to scabies with. Pleasure doesn't each which doesn't make sense but all about guilty pleasures salt. Think about when you're eating something that's not very healthy like oh cuban's on which if you're enjoying yourself you're like well it's kinda worth it. My mom actually says this show be eating something that is not supposed to eat and then she'll be like one center goto bigger. It's almost like if it tastes. Good it's gonna be bad for you. You know what i'm gonna enjoy. Yeah e. kong. So thank you everyone for your support for listening to us. A shout out to our patrons. Kelly's jesse josh. Yvette jason daniel corinna salamis. sarah amount. Kaley kristen while i had to take a breath. 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St. Louis' streak hits 11
"The. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don league-record and welcome to the Wednesday. They should have game as conduct. I'm down the Greco. Thanks for the day off yesterday had some things going on. But there's still lots to discuss and talk about the last night's games. But of course, the big story of the Saint Louis blues blues have gone from last place. Now, not just a playoff team. But a team that now can find themselves maybe getting home ice advantage in the first round of the playoffs. They win in overtime. Over the Toronto Maple Leafs last night three to franchise record twelve consecutive win. They had won eleven straight or excuse me eleven th straight win. They had one ten in a row in two thousand one two thousand two so a franchise record eleven consecutive wins. And now they're in third place in the central division. They're just six points back of Nashville, but with three games in hand on the predators. So the blues it's really a tremendous story. They had a shutout streak of two hundred thirty three minutes and fifty seconds snapped in the third period when Toronto score two goals and thirty one seconds to tie it. But they win the game at overtime. Saint Louis Tarasenko is now showing up the Bennington story between the pipes has been great. But even Allen has played well when he has gotten his chance to play shutting out Minnesota over the weekend. Shannon's played, well, there's just so many players right now that have stepped up for the Saint Louis blues. It is quite the story and this winning streak just keeps going now. They're a playoff team in in a wide open Western Conference, why not Saint Louis? I mean, the team has never been to a Stanley Cup final since their expansion runs back when they first came into the league going to the Stanley Cup final in in sixty eight sixty nine and seventy now they've got a chance to maybe do it in what I think is a wide open Western Conference. Do I think they're Nashville? Do I think they're Winnipeg? Maybe if they continue to play the way, they're playing me. And why not I I think the sky's the limit for this team. And it really just gives a lot of faith. I think two teams out there that are on the outside. Looking like if you're Florida if. You're the Rangers. If you're Philadelphia and you look at yourself and your your nine ten eleven points out of a playoff spot, and you think are the season's over. But hey, got twenty three twenty four games left. Maybe you rattle off eleven straight wins. And find yourself the next thing Louis Blues. I mean that that's the kind of faith that you have especially in the Western Conference where you can make some big time moves so right now, if you're Anaheim if you're Edmonton, and you're kind of sinking a little bit. But maybe you find a groove certainly some of those teams have talent certainly are in a position that Saint Louis was any rattle off six seven eight nine ten wins in a row next thing. You know, you can find yourself with a playoff so you can have faith. And of course, we're getting closer to the deadline. Looks like Duchenne is going to go looks like penins gonna go very interesting situation. Montreal last night, which on Twitter, rela Canadians the three two win over the blue jackets, obviously hurting Carolina's chances of trying to win that division. Catch. The islanders released got home ice by finishing in second the metropolitan division and Panara scratch because he's. Hill. So everybody speculates the penins gonna get traded. So John Todarello was asked if he was ill. And I can't even put into words that would clear the FCC of what John Todarello said. But it was pretty funny. I guess it was the equivalent of blowing at both ends of you know, what I'm talking about. So he's very descriptive on how ill Panara and was typical John Tortorella. And I gotta tell you from covering Tortorella when he was with the Rangers is he hates having to be a Montreal and Toronto. I mean, those are two of the least favorite cities for John because there's no get up form. Right. I mean the morning skate. There's fifty reporters around them after the game before that that that to our press conference with two hours before the game press conference that he has he's inundated with media. So he's already in a mode by the time. He gets the Toronto and Montreal. So the fact that he was getting asked those questions and legitimate questions because anytime a player who's rumored to get Dell is a last-second scratch. You starting to think? All right is this guy about to get traded so Pinera and maybe legitimately sick. John Todarello very enter. -taining helping everybody understand exactly how ill Pinera and was before the game. Lightning beat the flyers five to two is the flyers the lightning when their seventh consecutive game. And they just continue to March John Miller with a couple of points McDonnell with a couple of points. But there was an incident in this game. Where Goodace who also a guy that could be traded. And can certainly help a team. I think he'd helped Toronto tremendously actually because I think the leaves can actually use them physical play their game chops down on the top of the head of kucherov. Now, obviously he didn't shop it down like a piece of wood obviously, wearing a helmet, nothing's going to happen to kucherov. He's fine. But you just got to get that stuff out of the league. I mean, he's being instigated a little bit by kucherov. They kind of get tangled up and in a chopping motion. With a stick hits kucherov on the top of the head. So good is going to have a hearing today, and I'm recording this at one thirty eastern time. So I haven't gotten a ruling on the the hearing that he will be suspended multiple games. I would assume couple of reasons number one it there. There's there's intent there is there an intent to injure, you know, again, did he shop down really hard on the head of kucherov. But it's it's a shot. It's a high stick. It's right now one of the best players in the National Hockey League. Getting it Ned. I would think Gouda certainly will be made an example of now remember Malcolm got a game, but never really made contact with his is stick this made contact. So I would think at least two three games for goodness. But I still think he is someone that will be traded at the deadline to a team that needs that little bit of toughness, and I think Toronto could be a destination for him wild lose. Again, get shut out again as the ducks beat them for nothing. So Minnesota's in free fall right now. Get a chance to see him live as the Rangers in the wild will hook up tomorrow at Madison Square Garden other tough loss for the Oilers. They do earn a point. But they lose in the shootout to the coyotes who are hanging in there as well hurricanes bad loss for them at home to the Rangers. I say bad loss because they need every point they can get and with Montreal winning. And Pittsburgh winning as they finally beat the devils for the first time in two years, pulling it or not four three was the final score there. You know, you start to lose ground staying with the sabres. They got an early lead. They fall to Florida four to two. So here the way the standings, look, and you can have obviously follow this yourself. But you know, Carolina misses an opportunity still just a point back Columbus. But now they've got one more game played than the blue jackets. So it's the ever revolving door of who you're chasing. If you're Carolina in buffalo. It seems like it changes every day last night was Montreal over the weekend was Pittsburgh. Now, it's Columbus. But you're still behind them. But it's tough to kill Carolina. Just their third loss in their last eleven games. But they just could not get the equaliser. Hank was great last night. Made forty three saves as he picked up his first win since January thirty first. So a nice win for the Rangers. But a tough laws for Carolina and buffalo three wins in their last ten they're starting to fade. They're six points back of Columbus with the same out of games played. But you gotta start winning games there. Minus seventeen goal differential right now they've been miserable on the road. They've dropped three in a row. And here's the problem with with buffalo. They've lost three in a row. All three of the teams. They lost two or behind them in the standings, the Rangers. Then they lost to the devils and other Panthers all three of those teams were behind them in the standings. So if you're a team that fancies yourself is going to the playoffs, and you're playing teams that are behind you in the standings that you have a better record than and you lose all three of those games. You don't deserve to go to the playoffs. And now Buffalo's trying to hold off Florida Philadelphia. That's got sixty three points. They played an extra game Philadelphia. And they just came off a loss. But you know, Buffalo's I think closer now to falling behind Philadelphia Florida and the Rangers than they are probably catching Carolina and catching Columbus for that last playoff spot. So certainly a lot of problems going on with the Buffalo Sabres right now, Phil house. He's a good guy. Got a chance to see him on Friday before I did the. Ranger sabres game. But you know, what this is the second year first year. He got a pass this year. The feeling was with a ten game winning streak that he had a team good enough to contend. They're fading here in February. And that's that's a tough spot for them. The being busy day for a Wednesday four games Red Wings. And the Blackhawks Blackhawks coming off scoring eight goals the other night. So we'll see if they can hang in there in the west jets in the avalanche from Colorado last time these two teams hooked up in Winnipeg. It was the avalanche winning four to one. So we'll see if the jets can get their revenge. Islanders trying to extend their lead in the metropolitan division. They'll begin their western swing of Canada in Calgary against the flames. And the Golden Knights will take on the Bruins Bruins having a very good western swing and see if they continue that against the Vegas Golden Knights. Are let's hear from you at down the Graca hashtag game has conduct and let's start with Billy's. Hey, don. I don't get the whole Columbus can't lose Panara in for nothing mindset teams give up assets for rentals that they lose for nothing every year and get pray. As for going all in Columbus. Should hold on. And go for it. I'm with you. You haven't heard that on this podcast Bill. I think that there's value in keeping Brodsky and Pinera. And if you're Columbus, I've said this time and time again. All right. I've been to that arena a dozen times. I've called a dozen ranger blue jackets games there. It's a phenomenal building. It's a phenomenal area. It's an underrated hockey market. But those fans have not seen the second round in franchise history. All right. They've gotten disappointment after disappointment. I think that there's been times they've been the best team in the metropolitan division injuries of submarine them and Borowski play in the postseason of submarine them. And really the team's overall play in the postseason, but this team needs to make a wrong. So you'll get assets back for Panara Borowski. But you kind of just start over again. I think you hold onto those guys you make a Ron was wide open metropolitan division. It's still I think a winnable division of your Columbus. If they can get hot. And then you take your chances. And if this team ends up getting to the conference final and gets swept in four games by Tampa. So be it. But at least a Ron win a couple of rounds. Get people excited you're trying to build a fan base there, and it's tough to build a fan base when you're one and done every single year. So I'm completely with you on that Robert says, what do you think about allowing teams to actually rent players each team can receive or send one player without expiring contract to from another team for assets. Then he reverts back after the season. I know I don't know if I like that. I mean, really I understand that the rentals happen anyway. Right. But I don't know if that I don't know if the CBA would work that way because you kinda holding the player hostage, right? You're talking about assets. They're not pawns in chess. I mean, I don't know if you really wanna do that. I'd have to think about that. Robert. It's not an awful idea. Just don't ever think it's going to happen. Figure says a few things from last night's devils game. Devils lose to the penguins for the first time in a while. Mojo a meaning of Markus Johannesson keeps playing well goal and assist last night. And he got a chance to meet putty. Because even though it can be hard. You gotta support the team. That's right. David putty. Of course from Seinfeld dropped the puck against he was like every time he shot the puck. I think he's done a three or four times at the rock of the Meadowlands and they lose the game. I remember the first time he did it drop the puck after the devils won the ninety five Cup opener against Florida for the start of the ninety five ninety six season. Devils ended up losing that game. So he hasn't been a good luck charm for them. But Victor sent me the picture so very good job out of him. Chris resident flyer fans. Hi, Don, radcow Gouda, should and most likely will be suspended for his cheap shot last night. Therefore did that? Play negat-. Negatively impact is value at the trade deadline as I mentioned, Chris before I don't think so I think you'll get suspended a few games. But I think that shipping is something that some teams might want in the playoffs. So I don't think it changes value at all Michael says an ear full here. He says isn't John Todarello the best. Ha thanks, and I'll hang up and listen yet, I'm towards sky, and listen, I'm not gonna name names. But there's a lot of people do not like John Tortorella. He can be a bit much. He can be a little aggressive and demeaning and press conferences, I never took any of that seriously. Like he's gotten on me when I've asked questions, I it's not me. You don't take it. Personally. He doesn't hate a certain individual in the media. I don't think he ever hated Larry Brooks per se. He just hates dealing with the media. And sometimes the wrong question sets them off. But never take it. Personally. I think deep down he's a good guy. And I think he's interesting and good for the game. Dangle says the blues are dead last in the league on January third now looking like a lock. The playoffs that moves what moves if any DC them doing the deadline as much as I hate to see him go. I think Zouk would bring so much needed playoff experience for them. I mean, that's I guess what you're going to be looking for right? I mean right now, you don't want to disrupt the chemistry that this team has the players coming out of nowhere and playing well for them have been almost like acquisitions like, it was almost like they picked up Tara right because he had been you know, mired in a slump and now he's red hot. Now. He's one of the best goal scorers in the league. So I don't know if you want to disrupt the chemistry finding someone that maybe could help because they don't have a ton of postseason experience that maybe zuccarello could help. But you know, what if I'm saying Lewis, I kinda just wait and see where this is going. I won't get too crazy disrupting what has been a tremendous run that doesn't look like it's going to end anytime soon, although Toronto kinda out played them certainly in the second half of the second period and most of the third after Saint Louis had taken the to nothing lead in the first period. But seems to me like Saint Louis is rock and roll in here. But we'll we'll see what they decide to do. Sean says three things love the podcast of my the only one downloading it income Cambodia. I would say probably he's the first person I've heard admit that would like to see a game clock somewhere near the ice. Seems like guys don't know how much time they have at the end have to listen to off ice podcast. It's a good one. Well, thank you very much. I will try to give a listen to that. It's a it's a good point. I mean, there's signals obviously you hear the goaltender slam. Stick on the ice. When the power play is expiring to let everybody know. But I mean, it wouldn't be a bad idea. You have all these advertising on the boards. Could you put something in the corner with the clock because sometimes it's very difficult to spot? I don't think that's a that's an awful awful idea. Let's see G S M hockey says the Rangers are likely sellers, and we'll be looking for picks and talent for their prospect pool. What about a five ten skill guy? Like, the Sudbury wolves assistant, captain, David LeVine. The only nineteen undrafted wouldn't cost anything wind with upside. Not as for me. I can ask around about that. But I'm sure they'd be very much open to trying at anything that they can for for. Sure. But I I have not specifically heard about what they're with their feelings are about that. Neal says the Florida Panthers are so confusing like you I picked them for the playoffs. What is going on with them? So inconsistent would be great to have Steven Goldstein back on the podcast to hear his thoughts. I will try to get Steve on I'm in contact with Steve lodge? The Panthers really haven't been to the forefront this year much to the point you're making the because they've been such a disappointment this year, but certainly the goal tending. I think hurt them early in the year when the Longo was hurt and struggled a bit. So that kinda got him off to a bit of a slow start. It took a while for bark off to kinda get going certainly they've had other injuries as well. The that that that hurt them. Coach getting hurt certainly stunted their growth a little bit from an offensive standpoint. But they've also underachieve I mean, everybody goes through injuries. Everybody goes through slumps between the pipes. And they just never seemed to recover in the beginning of the year. ESPN asked me to make predictions that I thought Babu governor would be the Jack Adams trophy for coach of the year candidate. Because I really thought Florida's about the pop, but I think we all have to learn our lesson of not looking at the end of last year and having it predict the next year because you look at the devils and the Panthers at the end of last year were two of the hottest teams in the league devil snuck in Panthers ended up with the most points ever not to make the playoffs. So the assumption was those teams would carry it over, especially Florida, and it just never materialized that didn't happen. Now. I'm not ready to throw it all away. Because I do think there's a tremendous amount of talent there that just got to stay healthy. And I guess they gotta figure out the goaltending. Right. Luang going to be forty years old. I think Rymere's nice backup goaltender. I don't think. He's a number one. So I think they're going to actually have to find a goaltender. But there's a lot of talent. There tro Jack bark off. Hubert. Oh, so many good players on the Florida Panthers. And that's why I thought that they'd be a much better team than they've been. So hopefully that can change a little bit for them. All right. A lot of fun today. Getting caught up after not having a podcast yesterday. Want to get in touch with me at down the Greco hashtag game is conduct as best way to do it. So we've got four games to recap tomorrow. And all of them seem to be very very important for playoff implications. Blackhawks still alive jets avalanche avalanche desperate for victory. Islanders trying to hold on the first place. Same with the Calgary. Flames. Being who would thought we'd be having a podcast on February? Twentieth. And talking about the islanders and the flames two of the best teams in the league and two teams that are trying to hold on to their positions. Of course, the first place in the metropolitan division of flames. I pill ace in the Pacific Division. So just shows you how surprising the National Hockey League can bay so back with again tomorrow, thanks for listening. This was the Wednesday edition of game has conduct. Listening to the game misconduct podcast looking for more. Tom mcgrath. Hear him Michael can show weekdays from three to seven pm on ninety eight point seven ESPN in New York and worldwide on the ESPN app. I don't forget to subscribe to the game misconduct podcast on the ESPN app. Google play music apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Leafs land Jake Muzzin
"The lease. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don league-record and welcome to the Tuesday edition of game is conduct. I am the Greg. Let's get right to it. Major trade the NHL last night Muhsin goes from Los Angeles to the Maple Leafs. And we've talked about it plenty of times drop the wants to make a serious run at a Stanley Cup. They had to improve their defense more. Specifically, a stay at home defenceman. We'll Muslim comes in. It's got twenty one points on the season. He's not slouches far as offenses concern, you know, play on top pairing with Riley. So there's a lot of production that that defensive units gonna give you, but they've gotta find somebody outside of Ron Hansie who's thirty seven years old that could be a guy that could stand up forwards at the blue line that can go after the best forward on the other team, matchup wise. I mean, they were gonna lose every match of Toronto in the playoffs. It gets really good team because they didn't have anybody to go up against you know, the top line for Boston team. They're likely going to play in the first round. How do you stop Sidney Crosby of getting Malik? And how do you stop Alexander Ovechkin and nNcholas Backstrom? How do you stop stamkos and kucherov? If you wanna make run to the Stanley Cup final. So I'm not saying that Muhsin cures all ills. But it makes a lot of sense now first round pick and some prospects. That's pretty juicy but Muslims under contract through next year. It's a management deal as far as the cap is concerned a four point six million dollars. And I'm sure the Toronto will consider after the nineteen twenty season. Whether they want to bring. Him back. We'll see where the calorie salary cap structure is going to be and what ends up happening with some of their free agents. But it's not like, it's a rental. You have them for a run this year and next year and may have the wherewithal to keep him around Muslim. Of course was part of to Stanley Cup championships with the Los Angeles Kings. So he's been there. He's done that. These are the types of moves teams have to make now on the surface. When you think about defense been that I want to make a run I'm not sure Jake Muhsin was on like the top list of fans out there who said that's going to be the difference between winning Stanley Cup or not. But certainly he had been on the radar of many general managers around the league Toronto makes the move. And now they've improved themselves with the acquisition of Taveras during the off season which bolstered their offense big time and has allowed them to fight through some of the injuries. They've had with Matthews with the holdout of Neil Lander. And now they get themselves study defenseman the acquisition of Hanes. He was also a good one last year. So you sprinkle in the offense with sites with Riley with Gardner, and now you've got. To stay at home guys. But Muslim as I said could produce some offense in any given year this guy that can give you forty fifty points on on Toronto. This is a guy that can be a stay at home defenseman that could score north of fifty points on this team. So I think the acquisition was good. We've seen in recent years that the trade deadline is just a mere suggestion that it seems like a lot of deals get done way before the deadline. So even before we get into February. We're seeing these deals get done so slightly under a month before the deadline Toronto, they sound the bell. I and now we'll see who else. Decides to follow will Boston trying to make a move now to try to keep up with Toronto to try to get that home ice advantage in the first round who else in the Eastern Conference is gonna make a deal. What's Pittsburgh going to do another loss for the penguins last night? They cannot beat the devils on a bet six Owen one New Jersey against Pittsburgh over the last couple of years, including all three meetings this year being devil wins. So just it's crazy that the devils a team. That listen last year. I guess it makes sense because they were a playoff team. But the doubles do not look like a playoff team this year and still own a playoff team. But this Pittsburgh think about making move to solidify a plow spot. What is Washington do as they seem to be in free fall? Now be not being able to a find a way to win especially with the Washington Capitals. Starting their second half of the season coming up later when they come out of there by a against the Calgary Flames and that'll be coming up on Friday without Alexander Ovechkin who's going to serve the one game suspension for not going to the all star game. They've been in free fall with a six straight losses. So these Eastern Conference teams they're kind of old jockeying for position because I think really buffalo and Carolina only the realistic teams outside looking in that could make a move but jockeying for position is important having home ice advantage. Trying to win your division making sure you're one of those top three positions, especially if you're a metropolitan team trying to avoid having to take on the Tampa Bay Lightning. A so there's a lot of things in there. You don't wanna fall to the wildcard? Play Tampa in the first round where you can play them in the conference final if you end up in that top three spot metropolitan division. So even though these teams know they're going to the playoffs like Toronto they wanted to make sure that they have an easier path once they get there looks like they're destined play Boston a team that's kind of had their number. So Toronto makes the first move. We'll see who makes the next move. I have a feeling you're going to see a lot of moves between now and the twenty fifth the by the time we get to the actual trading deadline. There's not going to be that many moves to make. So we get the unofficial second half of the season underway. We mentioned the devils with a win over the penguins. Six to three I'd love to get somebody to explain to me how the devils can have bits Burg's number. But they seem to big shorthanded goal by Boyle and the devils get off the fast art, get taking a four one lead and eventually winning six to three the flyers with a nice win as well. Three to one at home against the Winnipeg Jets, so Carter heart makes thirty one saves in the victory and Kentucky continues to be good with a goal and an assist in the victory. Roz levick. It's the only tally for the Winnipeg Jets his third goal of the season. So it looks like and it's been made official by Philadelphia. That Carter heart is going to stay with the organization, even though he was kind of forced into play here because they've you seven different goaltenders in Philadelphia. We thought it was crazy last year when Vegas had six Philadelphia's. Now, you seven so heart's gonna stay up. He's the future of this organization and continues to win games Philadelphia over wall as won four straight games. And you take a look at where they are in the standings again, forty six points their twelve points back Pittsburgh for the final wildcard spot. And they're also thirteen points back that third place bond, the metropolitan division. So none of this is going to bear fruit for Philadelphia. But if heart continues to play, well, they'll eventually trade Wayne Simmons, you gotta figure, but with some very talented players already locked in to contracts defensive core that is growing into its own. I think Philadelphia has a nice future. I know you want to try to get the top. And tank that's always a fan type of conversation, but I see value Philadelphia. Plain out these games here to give some of the fans in Philly chance to really get a preview of what this team can be and playing while in the second half of the season. I think's gonna be important. So when a plague Winnipeg will play the second back tobaks, they'll be in Boston tonight to take on the Bruins Bruins, of course. Coming off their bye as well. Their last game was way back earlier in the month when they lost to the Rangers that Saturday night at home sabres, they still have a chance to make the playoffs tough task that they're going to take on the Columbus. Blue jackets trying to make sure they could keep pace with the islanders for first place in the metro and the flyers and the Rangers Rangers kind of the same boat. It's Philadelphia doesn't look like it's going to happen this year. But the Rangers have won three in a row winnable game tonight with Philadelphia behind them in standings, second back to back for Philadelphia Rangers take on the New Jersey Devils coming up Thursday, and then a huge test on Saturday at home against the best team in the league the Tampa Bay Lightning but winning three in a row before the break Rangers playing a little bit better. Duke has been good, obviously, savannah Janet it's been good Rangers going to play with seven defensemen tonight because Pablo butchnevich has been benched as coach Quinn said he just didn't like the way he was playing a going into the break. So the Rangers for maybe the third or fourth time this year will go light at the forward position this time by choice. So Smith will be back in the lineup for the blue shirts as they try to make it four in a row. And again, even if it's just 'cause medically trying to show the fans what next year could be like zoo continues to play while certainly he'll be an ill be in a position where he can win some games for this organization. But also be trading piece. Same thing with Kevin Hayes as well as Kevin Hayes had not played the previous nine games going into the break because of the upper body injury. You know, the feeling is is that he's got a chance to get a little healthier here. And then once he does prove that he's healthy that he is going to be able to hit the ground running. And and be a trade bait for the Rangers. He is going to be in the lineup tonight. He is going to center the second line between VC and Houten. So the Rangers line are gonna be like this, of course, Zabana Jad and Kreider in cough, who's playing well in the first half of the season will now be on the top line Hayes between VC and how strong who's played well between heated and fast, and then it'll be McLeod, and and and Boonie EVA's rounding out the bottom part as the foot infection for Mazzarella was going to keep him out. So that's a bit of a problem as far as the tradings concern. Although he was red hot doesn't look like the foot infection is serious clayson still has the shoulder injury. So those are the banged up situation for the New York Rangers as they look for their foreign row and Philadelphia looking for their sixth in a row house here from you at down the Greco hashtag game has conduct on L says what up Don love your show. My question is how did you like the all star game this past weekend? Did you think San Jose did a good job? And the glowing puck reminded me of what they did when the NHL was on FOX back in the nineties. Do you think it's good or bad for the? NHL we talked about this a little bit for EJ with EJ. I like it's tone down a little bit. I do like the trailer for the puck because sometimes it can tell you. Whether we're going off the post or the was saved by the goaltender sometimes trying to figure out where the puck is watching on television. It's been a bit of a problem. I thought FOX's was over the top. But that was twenty something years ago, and obviously back then the technology wasn't the same. So I do think there's some value to the glowing pock you don't lose it in certain areas that some of the angles it's behind the board. You can't see it. Or if the pucks underneath the goaltender where where it is in the the soup of bodies between the crease in the slot and in front of the goaltender. I just thought. Fox's was over the top as far as San Jose. We talked to EJ they did terrific job at thought the three on three was great. My only complaint is considering that it was played in the Pacific that the Pacific Division should went second. So you didn't have that awkwardness of those three shark players in Pevez sqi and burns. Not playing in the second game and then being gone right away. And in two games being played without all the sharks in the lineup. So I didn't like that. At all, Chris. Hey, Don, another impressive win for Carter heart last night. How much of his and the team's recent success is due to the pressure being off since they all but out of the playoff contention and the opposition overlooking them or is the team finally putting it together islander the opposition's. Overlooking them I mean, maybe you can make that case for Winnipeg. But I think going into Philadelphia's always kind of got people on guard because the history of it, and and I mentioned before Philadelphia may be struggling, but you still have Cluj through one of the best players in the league Fletcher said one of the best players in the history of the flyers organization. I wouldn't go that far. But he did say it, you know, and they've got nice players. You've got to be leery of. So I don't I don't think we should take away the win because of that factor. I do think that there's some pressure being added by Fletcher saying that they're really no untouchables on the team. So a lot of the players are. Playing knowing that they may be acquired by other organizations. So I don't believe that. There's no pressure in Philadelphia. It is sometimes a little easier to play when it's four something personal rather than for the ultimate team goal of making the playoffs. But only anybody in that room is counting themselves out. Just yet. It's not even February. So I think there is a lot of value to Philadelphia's doing and congratulations to the way that they're playing. We'll see if they can keep it up. David Hynes says as a former devil fan, which uniform color scheme, you prefer the old red and green look or the current red and black. Well, unfortunately, the the green uniforms got dub Christmas trees, and you look back at them. And it's kind of an eyesore liked them at the time. But I do like the addition of black, and I'm not a big fan of of adding black to the jerseys the way all these teams do, but considering the devils have pretty much all of their success with those jerseys. And I think they do look a lot sharper than the Christmas tree jerseys. Although I do like the throwbacks when they do play them. It's very nostalgic, but I wouldn't want to see them. Go back to it full-time. Mark says are there are rumors that is looking to make a deadline deal for the islanders. What what have you heard? And what do you think he might do? Well, he'll do anything if he feels that this team can make a legitimate Ron now, I haven't heard any names specifically. But I believe they're going to be a buyer rather than a seller. Lou when he feels like he's got a good team. Why wouldn't you feel like he's got a good thing there in first place as we start play on January twenty ninth and they'll be in first place tomorrow because nobody's going to catch them with a three point bulge in one day. Is the fact that he sees an opportunity for this team to make a run. I think it's there. I don't think there's anybody. They can't beat Tampa. I would say probably not but everybody else in that given series. I give them a legitimate shot. The way they're playing away Barzel is playing away leaves playing and more importantly the way the goaltending has been and this team hasn't been out of the first round. But once in the lab. Twenty five years when they made that run to the conference final ninety three, you know, opening a new building soon trying to steal some attention. When it looks like the Rangers and devils are not gonna make the playoffs. If the islanders can have that stage by themselves for a month as their winning two series Lucy's value in that. And if you get to the conference final heck, why not Vasa left ski, Mike it hurt. Stamkos may get hurt. Kucherov might get hurt. Who knows we talked about Tampa Bay and the best team in the league? There's no guarantee they go to the conference final. So I do I think the islanders winning a Stanley Cup is presently constituted. No. But do I think they can make a run. Absolutely. And if you look at Louis history, New Jersey when he believes the team you can make it run. He goes for it. I mean, he went out and got the Gilmore he went out and got Dave Andrew Chucky went on got Alexander Mogilny, you know, sometimes it works. Sometimes it didn't. But loo I think it's an unfair Rapa being conservative because he doesn't throw a lot of money around, but he can be very aggressive at the trading deadline. And I think the honors will make a deal, and I don't think they're gonna be scared off, you know, to to sell off ever leave. Because he's a free agent. If they believe he can help them in the Rondo keep them, and he'll run the risk of losing them. So I do think that they're gonna make a play ranger proud says should the Rangers. Invest and trade for Panara. And I say no because I think there's an excellent chance to get him in free agency. This is very similar to the shattenkirk situation. When the Rangers were a lot better. They could have got shattenkirk on a rental and then sign him full-time after the season or long-term they decided they did not want to lose the first round pick and waited and they ended up getting shattenkirk. I think they're going to do the same with Pinera. They know they're going to be a front runner for him. He's not going to be able to help them this year unless the Rangers go on a huge run and think they can make the playoffs. But as of right now that does not look like it's going to happen. So I think you probably wait Victor says which is more important leaves go for d with the trade of Muhsin or Panara and basically saying he's gone after the year, we should mention that penins agent, basically said no more conversations with the blue jackets. This guy is going to test free agency. So he's gone. I'm not sure the Columbus is still going to trade him because Columbus sits in a position where they can make a run Columbus probably thinking we can finish the top three spots avoid Tampa till the conference final. That's a team. That's never even been out of the first round in franchise history. So I'm not sure the Columbus is gonna trade Panara. And if they do a less your one hundred percent, sure, you're signing a long term. I'm not giving a ton forum now Toronto Chicago, the Rangers all teams that I think Panara will land, but he can't go at all of them. So Toronto is not guaranteed to get him. If they think they can make a run with him than I think they will try to make that run. If they want him long-term, they may wait and sign him in the off season. But be careful how much money do you think you can pay these players Matthews mourner kneeland or you just gave a big deal to? All right. You've got a lot of money that you're going to be allocating to young players negative bring Pinera knee, and he's going to demand a lot of money. Now, they've got room under the cap now. But I got to think about. The future and some of the players that they have a pucks in pug says just listen to Monday's podcast. What would you do in a game with the Sebastian Aho's? Great question, of course to Sebastian Aho's one was playing defense for the your calendars. And of course, one's a star on all star for the Columbus for the Carolina Hurricanes. That's a great question. I would I think you'd have to you have to acknowledge the team the islanders Sebastian Aho takes it up or since you're saying islanders hurricanes. The hurricanes auto the islanders Ohio that would be the way to do it. But boy, would that be a very very difficult thing to have to deal with Christina says just to put my two cents in about the kings being picked to play Colorado in the outdoor game. The two teams had a good Rava replaying many years in Vegas for pre-seasons frozen. Fury should be fun that somebody else had mentioned that. I didn't read the tree twit Christina's. So I'm gonna give you the opportunity here that they did play. I think it was up until twenty sixteen that they did that. So there's odd. Always a reason. See we all think we were smarter than the average. Right. But when a league invests as much money. As much time and actually pay people oughta money to make those types of decisions. They usually have some information or inside dope. The we don't have. So or that we have but we chose to ignore and instead of Christine Oliver who nailed and some of the other people on Twitter the did the same. No question to me that that's a major reason why they're playing in the stadium series. And and I also looked at the stadium series is being more of a local thing than a national thing. And the reason I say that is because and this was an idea had for a long time. And maybe they heard me say and on NHL live back in the day. And they stole the idea is that there are certain teams that are never gonna play ever gonna play in the winter classic, right? But if you created a series in which you can play where it's more on the local side that may be that would give opportunities to teams like the Colorado Avalanche like a team like the Carolina Hurricanes or or the New Jersey Devils, the New York Islanders to get a chance to play outside. So the stadium series was just like that the couple of games the Yankee Stadium back in twenty four. Eighteen gave the islanders devils the chance to play outside. We saw the kings and the ducks play Dodger Stadium a few years ago. Many of the debt gives two teams that never played in winter classic. And may never get a chance to play in the winter classic a chance to play outside at least they've expanded their horizons a little bit for next year's winter classic with Dallas in Nashville playing each other publicity you ever see a scenario in which the hurricanes would play of the Columbus. Blue jackets would play in winter classic probably not but in a stadium series. Then I think there's a very good chance of it happening. So I don't get too caught up who plays in the stadium series as much as I do the winter classic. But a great job to see that they've expanded their horizons of the winter classic. Let's close it out with Troy says if the Los Angeles Kings were to move quick I could see him making a difference in Columbus. Of course. Columbus would have to move Broschi, but quick has been solid in the playoffs and Tortorella coached him before in the World Cup while a couple of things at play here. Quick has been banged up. So I'm not sure if on the blue jackets, I'm going to have faith the quick. Is going to stay healthy. So you're right. He's won a couple of cups. Something is not done because Borowski had his problems in the postseason. If you could tell me quick is healthy. I think that would make the Columbus blue jackets, maybe not necessarily better in the regular season. But I have more faith with them in the postseason. My problem is he's had to lower body injuries. Over the last year. Am I comfortable to know that he will be able to stay healthy for me? So that's something. I'd have to file away. And think about a lot of fun today. We got a couple of games to recap coming up tomorrow. So if you've got any questions or comments at download Graca, hashtag Amos conduct could the app hockey's back. It's good to get this come games back onto the board. It'd be better a little bit later on the week when we finally get see more than just two or three games on the schedule. So lots to do tomorrow at download brecca hashtag game has conduct. This was the Tuesday edition of game has Gonda. Listening to gain misconduct podcast looking for more dumb. 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Blues break through in 2OT
"He's the game misconduct podcast with Don league-record and walk into the Wednesday. They should have gained misconduct. Dom down the Greco what a game seven last night from Saint Louis blues beat the stars would want. This one went kind of the way, I thought it would I was asked by some people on Twitter and during the course of the day who, you know, who do you like in game seven I said, I think the blues of the better team. But I think Bishop is the better goal tender, and he could steal it. And he came darned closure feel bad Ben Bishop now he's had his moments went to a Stanley Cup two thousand fifteen shutting out the Rangers and game seven of these conference final. If you remember being game five Madison Square Garden, so he's had his moments for sure seems to rise to the occasion and he faced fifty four shots in this double overtime game to the stars thirty. It was just unreal how well the blues played in this game. And it would have been a walkover. Blowout may have. It was a fight. They would have stopped it. But the blues just could not get anything going against Ben Bishop zuccarello goal tied the game in one after done scored against Bishop thirteen thirty in and that would be it. Until Pat maroon of the Saint Louis blues resident scores five fifty into the second overtime to win it for the blues. But just spectacular of the amount of saves. The quality saves that he was forced to make the blues. Ten shots on goal in the first period. Eighteen in the second period. So Bishop was eighteen for eighteen the second period thirteen in the third period. Eleven in the first overtime and that he would give up the game winning goal on the second shot overtime number two. But here's what's disturbing. Okay. The blues. Dow's ended about shooting the blues thirteen ten in the first period game scoreless games tied at one in the second period. The stars were outshot eighteen to one in the third period the stars out shop. Thirteen to three. So Ben Bishop a standing on his head. He was the singular reason that the Dallas Stars almost went to the conference finals. I think they have to be pretty happy with themselves as far as the kind of season that they had I don't know how many real expectations there in this was a year in which Ben and Sagan were called out by ownership. There wasn't a general feeling that this was a Stanley Cup championship team. And they start a play greatness second of the season. The acquisition of zuccarello was supposed to solidify things it ended up doing that. But it didn't get going until the postseason. I thought zook was tremendous in the second round series against the blues. And I guess the only team that's disappointed along with the Dallas Stars in the National Hockey League are the New York Rangers because they could have gotten a third row. First round pick that second round conditional pick would become a first round pick of the stars one last night and made it to the conference final. They came up short. So we'll see would soup dozen free agency. And how the stars handle things during the course of the off season. I thought they were exceptionally well coached by Montgomery. I thought he had a defensive style. I thought the star survived being a little bit top heavy, but in Raja aloft came and I thought he played great in the regular season showed some skill in the postseason as while. I think the stars have to be very very happy with their performance what they're able to accomplish. So far this season. I know it's a disappointment. But you beat the the Nashville predators who had won the division on. And you go toe to toe with the Saint Louis blues her work with the hottest team in the regular season. In the second half of the year. They were the worst team in the NHL on January second really tremendous story, and Greg Baru be we'll get some consideration for the Jack Adams trophy people have to realize that the votes were in before the playoffs started. So the fact that he was able to win a couple of rounds. Here doesn't matter for him. But the blues finally looks like they got their goal tender in Bennington inexperienced. But so what the blues are. So offense talented. That they don't spend a lot of time in the defensive zone. So that really helps Bennington for sure, but what a credit to the Saint Louis blues. They are going to the conference final. And they do it by being the worst team in the National Hockey League on January second if you thought on January second this team would be in the conference final. It would be a little bit surprising. So they sit and they wait for tonight's sharks and avalanche game seven. So we've seen three game sevens. Go to overtime of the five which is the first time ever. We've seen the home team be fairly consistent. Carolina did win on the road in Washington and their game. Seven in the first round of the playoffs with the home team has been able to keep serving we'll see what the San Jose Sharks tonight sharks win. They go to the conference final take on the blues. This'll be a rematch of the twenty sixteen Western Conference final which the sharks won and went to the Stanley Cup. Final for the first time in franchise history avalanche trying to get back there in the first time in forever. They were consistently there in the early in the the early on the late nineties in the early two thousands. And now this is another generation of avalanche. But you know, what they're still led by Joe Sacic who is a major part of those championship teams in ninety six in two thousand one. So we'll see the home team. I think has a distinct advantage, but the avalanche of shown that they can handle this their skill players land has been hot ranson. And of course, you know, about McKinnon comper had a great game six to force the game seven scoring couple goals. Wouldn't be surprised at the sucker went overtime as well. That's gonna be a nine o'clock start. So make sure you taken during some coffee because that might be a late one would not be surprised if you're going to be deep into Thursday by the time his game comes to an end. But just a terrific job. These plows have been just terrific so negative the Saint Louis blues in the conference finals. So the stars wildcard team out already the comas blue jackets wildcard team out of the avalanche could exit as a wildcard team. So with all the upsets, we still may see some real quality teams that were expected to go far the blues, I think going into the plows were expected to. Maybe make a bit of a Ron, and they have all the sharks people have been on their bandwagon since the acquisition of Eric Carlson during the off season. So they have a chance to do that. But you still could get that avalanche hurricanes five which would be a big surprise to. So you sprinkled in some upsets, and I think that's always fun. But you also have some established teams that were also looked upon the favorites. And of course, the Boston Bruins, maybe defame. So you can have a blues sh blues Stanley Cup final appearance with the first time since nineteen seventy-two the sharks could try to win their first down the Cup ever. Bruins going trying to go to the Stanley Cup. Final for the first time since twenty thirteen trying to win it for the first time since twenty seven Carolina trying to win it for the first time since two thousand and six also one note McEvoy McEvoy has been suspended for game one tomorrow against the Carolina Hurricanes. That's when the Eastern Conference final is going to start that will start tomorrow from Boston. So no, Charlie McEvoy in this one. And let's face it. Mcevoy dodged a bullet by not getting thrown out of the game for his and game. Six only got a two minute minor. And I think when you look at his face he realized he got away with it. But he's not going to get away with by playing game one. And it's a big loss because he loves a lot of ice time. He's a very skilled offense a player. So that's going to hurt the Bruins a little bit as they lose him pre game one against Carolina. And then we'll find out the schedule the rest of the way for the Western Conference final once that's all getting completed tonight. But should be a lot of fun. Let's hear from you at down the Greco hashtag game conduct. Jack says, hey, Don hobos. Well, could you give some insight into how Jacob Slaven has been seen around the league as a canes fan from ashville? We get to see his defensive brilliance consistently. But how does the league's he slave? And they look at Slaven is at outstanding defenseman if you've been into the National Hockey League. And I've called a lot of hurricanes games with the Rangers. He stands out to me. He was always looked upon as I think pound for pound their best. Defensemen. And then of course, he gets the help because incomes Hamilton to be able to help on that blue line. But a slave in his respected around the league. I think his story has great. He is somebody who's a Christian who's found? God is a major source for him during the course of this Ronnie's a great kid great player. So I can't tell you how respected he is by everybody around the National Hockey League. But I know preparing for hurricanes game slave in his somebody that I really find is is is somebody that can be a force when I'm calling games and watching games. I just see him constantly with pock constantly having an impact. So I think he's very very well respected Casey Brown's gonna sharks when a series without a game seven. It's a great question. And it also begs the question of how is this going to affect the sharks? Even if they win the game tonight. Now, they're gonna go up against a blues team that was forced to go to game seven as well. But this is an older team as we've talked about before games begin to pile up. And you know, maybe they go. To the conference final go to seven and they might end up having to play twenty eight games the maximum if they're gonna win the Stanley Cup. But it looks like they won't get any kind of break. Guess we would probably start Friday or Saturday for the Western Conference file had gotten word yet. But I would think maybe Friday. So it'll kind of depend on how things go from there going against Saint Louis, but hey, listen, they've got older players. But the fact is that they could get ski back which I think is going to be important for them. And you hate to think of it this way because he was so injured and hasn't been able to play, but he's been able to condition himself. He's been able to work on the bike from cardio standpoint. So he's been able to rest up and he'll up his injury. And now, maybe he will have some legs that a lot of players on the San Jose Sharks won't have. So maybe that actually work to the advantage because Belski is pound for pound their best player. I think on the team at least from the forward standpoint. So maybe the little bit arrestees had not closing out the series against Colorado early. Hell. The sharks. But guess what the charts have to win tonight too. But they always seem to end up having to go this since it's crazy Christmas. Don, you could not have asked for better ending to a game seven maroon the hometown kid gets the game winner in front of his family specially son who idolized his dad believe he took a pay cut. So that he could play closer to home moments. Like, these, you know, Patrick Marrone is a very interesting story. I mean, he was a guy, you know, there was inadequate in just didn't seem to be fit there. Devils ended up trading forum didn't work out there long-term as you said he decided to go back to his hometown. And what an impact he's had in the postseason. And that's we've talked about the so many times we could talk about the stars Tarasenko. Who was not very good by the way in that series against Dallas only one even strength point for Tarasenko Jaden Schwartz who was outstanding in these playoffs little better against Winnipeg that was against Dallas. But sometimes it's the Maroons to get it done, right? Sometimes it's the Corrales in Boston. Sometimes the unknown guys. You don't really think of that end up having a huge impact you have to be well rounded if you're going to make a run in the playoffs. You have to be able to roll four lines. You have to have players that you can trust to be on the ice aqui situations, especially with all these games going overtime, fresh legs going to be so important and of a coach can look at his bench and trust literally everybody that's on that bench. That teams got an excellent chance to make a run. Chris. I'd on last night. I saw the unprofessional Marshon interview referred to yesterday. Although his behavior is inexcusable. Do you think his on and off ice antics? Give him the villain label resulting in some people watching and wanting to see the Bruins lose is good for the league shore. You need to have villains. You have heroes. You have billons. Okay. And the league is always had the SAT cannons and the Claudel amuse the Sean Avery is the guys that instigate to get under your skin. But also he does have a tendency to take. Things too far and what expense attention? I mean. Do I need the NHL to get mentioned on sportscenter because there's a guy getting Lichtman face or a stick being broken getting stomped on or a an interview in which he literally says just ten words. I mean, come on. I think he plays his game. I think he plays his game. Well, but that doesn't mean that he's above criticism. And that you can't be a little bit annoyed with the way he seems to conduct himself Matt's Sadok congrats to the blues all these late night overtime games, destroying my sleep, schedule love playoff hockey, Matt. You're absolutely right. I mean, I'm dozing off driving to work every day between having the twins and staying up late watching these games. It's been killing me. But it's been worth it. Because it's been so much fun. Get ready the late one tonight's nine o'clock start. So even if the game ends and regulation, you're probably looking at a game going close to twelve and I have a feeling we're going to be going deep into that. Because I wouldn't be surprised if I have a very very. Nine games going to overtime. Christopher says. Hey, Don, what's the phrase that you use have a kit? Coming mean, I've never heard that before it's kick coming. And it just means that you don't have you really can't complain is. What would it means? Meaning like, I always brought it up with the Vegas Golden Knights. And the fact that yes, they may be did get job on the five minute. Major allowing the sharks score those four goals and take the lead. But you don't have a kick coming. Meaning will you had a three one series lead? And you tied the game. After you blew the three nothing lead. And you went to overtime where you could have wanted. Meaning you really can't complain you had your opportunities. Now where does that phrase come from? I have no idea. But that's always how I've used. And I think that's the way that it it should work wing. Jones says what do you know of Pablo that soups return to Detroit and the also says I'm so proud of the blues achievement. Who would they have a better chance? Against I lean towards Colorado. I don't know. That's a good question. I mean this Colorado teams very early similar to the hurricanes. You know, looking at it from the Allender glasses. If you remember I thought they'd have a better chance. It's Carolina the Washington now, obviously, I was wrong. I think it would have been much better chance against Washington than getting swept by Carolina, be careful. You wish for this arcane teams on a bit of emission. I do look at Martin Jones is being a little up and down in goal. Sometimes he's absolutely terrific. And then we saw him lose three straight games against Vegas. Be careful you wish for but back to your Pablo dot souk. We're hearing word that he may return to the National Hockey League thing that'd be great have not heard exactly when or if that's going to happen. But there has been speculation that he will leave his cage L team and come back to the National Hockey League. Steve says, hey, Don priority to Columbus can prior to Columbus. Can you think of any other team going for it so aggressively the deadline, and can you remember any tea? Team that is definitely working for where they couldn't have one without those moves while you look back. It's hard to say the ninety four Rangers were in this category because they're on their way to winning the presidents trophy anyway. But look at the moves that they made at the deadline to win the cop, and how those guys really helped, you know, the Noonan's, and and the Matosas they made a bunch of deals at the deadline and all those guys end up contributing. So I would think of it there, although they might have been able to win without those moves. But the guys that they did bring over the trading deadline in ninety four all seem to contribute. So that would be an area doesn't happen that often because usually don't get a situation like you get with Columbus where so many guys are free agents. And I think you had a perfect storm of major free agents on a team that had never accomplished anything. I still believe that it had been Boston or Chicago that had those free agents. I don't I think they would have traded him because they would have. Wanted to get something back. And even if it came at making a run, they had one cups before there were established hockey teams. So that might have been the better move, hockey wise, but you had the combination with Columbus where they had never been out of the first round of franchise history. They're trying to build a fan base. So there were willing to take that risk. So it's so rare to be able to have guys that you can get something for but side, the hold onto him at risk of losing them because you could see the value in Iran and Columbus, the value in Iran, and they came darn close to getting that that championship run just came up short in the second round. Jennifer sus. Jennifer says I have come to the assumption that Panara and ends up with the Rangers does the potential of Davidson going there as well. Make that more or less likely. I don't think it affects it I don't we were hearing rumors about Panara in going to the Rangers going back to the Blackhawks seems like he wants to go either to an. Establish National Hockey League team original sixteen there's also room as you want to go down to Florida. He's comfortable there. So Jennifer, I'm not sure that John Davidson is going to be a factor. I think he wanted to be arranger. Anyway, I don't think he projected out the John Davidson was going leave to become a ranger. So I don't think it's a factor. But Panara n- seems to narrow down his choices. We're hearing, you know, Maple Leafs. Blackhawks Rangers Panthers. It's a very slim number of teams. But the Rangers are certainly one of those teams that I'm not really sure John Davidson has anything to do with. All right. We've got a game seven tonight. We'll have a game one to preview as well in the Eastern Conference final tomorrow. You wanna get in touch with me these way to do that as at down the Greg hashtag game is conduct. Love the participation. We're having so much fun. These games have been terrific. Thanks for joining us back with again tomorrow. This was the Wednesday edition of game has conduct listening to gain misconduct podcast looking for more Don McGregor. Hear him on the Michael Kay show. Weekdays from three seven pm on ninety eight point. ESPN a New York worldwide on the ESPN app. I do forget to subscribe to the game misconduct podcast on the ESPN app. Google play music. 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Blue Jacket Blues
"The lease. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don la- Greco and welcome to the Tuesday edition of game misconduct. Diam? Download Graca my apologies for what happened yesterday all set. Do it. Mom calls on her cell phone telling me, your landline phones broke, and I've got to go to her house and get somebody to come and fix it. Or you knew at time was beginning to run out. So I apologize, but sometimes duty calls and my mom needed me. So that's what I'm here for. So I can't really apologize for it. Anyway, just a couple of games last night. Oilers be the sabers four three sabres are now dead Maple Leafs with an impressive six to win of the flame. So the flames couple of bad losses at home. Right. You grow McGinley night. They dropped the decision to Minnesota. Now fall into the leaves. Now, Minnesota's red hot leaves, obviously a very good team. But just something to kind of file away. Toronto Calgary has been very good. Don't get me wrong. But and and we've got a comfortable lead for the division that Pacific, but just something to kind of consider when you start to see teams losing home, especially teams that were so good at home. We're getting into those dog days of. We've seen it with Tampa. Maybe Calgary falling forward as well. Where you're a team. You know, you go into the playoffs. You know, you're likely gonna win your division you going up against a team that's desperate to get home ice advantage. Desperate to turn things around very emotional. And sometimes you just don't click and you fall behind three nothing early. And and that pretty much is it. But here's the thing about Toronto. That's got to be pretty encouraging. Okay. That it wasn't about the martyr's and the Matthews and the Taveras is when Tyler gets a hat trick when Zakheim and can get a couple of goals for you. I mean, that's pretty good monitored score. But I was after the game was already decided if five too late for twenty four th of the season what a guy gets a hat trick that has just eleven goals on the season. And now twelve and when a guy gets two goals, and he's only got you know, fifteen and sixteen on the year on the road. That's a nice win for Toronto. So good job outta them. Tonight, many games of importance Bruins in the hurricanes hurricanes trying to solidify a playoff spot Boston trying to get that home ice in the first round, blue jackets and devils at the rock, the blue jackets, boy that is an interesting story. Okay. Major topic of conversation on Sunday. I called the Rangers capitals games. All the NBC guys are there and the major topic conversation has been about Columbus can Columbus possibly miss the playoffs for all that they have sunk in at the deadline being all in. Okay. You got a coach this won a Stanley Cup. You got a team that's been a perennial playoff team at asthma. Able to get out of the first round Panara Nebraska got one foot out the door. So you go on you get dangle you go out and get Duchenne you go out and get mcquaid. You make these big splashes for guys that are also got to be free agents. And what would happen if this team? Missed the playoffs. Panara NBA ski all the guys you traded for walk. I mean, it could be crippling to the franchise you'd almost have to let everybody go. I mean that was the topic. I'm not going to mention any names who brought this up to me. But how do you not fire everyone because you put all your eggs in one basket under the pretense that you thought that you're a pretty good team, the division was wide open. All right. The islanders lost a couple of games here. The door's been opened and the team that looks like they're ready to kick it downs. The Washington Capitals. Not the Columbus, blue jackets. Right. Carolina is now in third place. Carolina is a head of Columbus. Pittsburgh is a head of Columbus. If Columbus is not careful Philadelphia is gonna pass them. They're just three points behind. So when you sit in your watch Columbus in New Jersey, no offense to the devils. But Columbus has to win that game. If they lose a game to a devil team. That's obviously thinking about the future that they've been spunky. They ha they hung in Boston. The other night. Lou. In one nothing. But you're talking about a team that's eight games under NHL five hundred. They're playing kids. If Columbus loses tonight or gets one of those, you know, bogus points in overtime or the shootout legitimate concern. Now, they can win the game ten nothing, and they're still going to be concerned around the blue jackets, but this team has lost. You know, got lost four nothing to Edmonton at home. Now, I know Edmonton's desperate, but just those Columbus your home you almost never had a chance in that game. So Columbus is two points out of a playoff spot with a game in hand on Montreal. So there's nothing to panic about they've got one more win than Montreal. They've got three more row wins than Montreal. I mean, Columbus is still in pretty good shape before six zero two losses in a row and those two losses coming after the trading deadline. Gotta get things going here. So I'll be interesting. I think these going to be a fascinating final seventeen games for the Columbus, blue jackets, really because I'm not sure if anybody survives. If this team is the place, really, anybody, Pittsburgh, you know, six two and two in there. Last ten there. The first wildcard they're trying to climb up the standings one point back of Carolina. So all of these teams to be moving forward in the metropolitan division and Columbus with thought would be spurred on by all these deals, and here's another question to that. I'll throw out and and this is coming from John Tortorella fan. I think I think he's a great coach great coach. And I think he's an underrated guy to are. These fascinating hates the media. But once you get over that fact, you can deal with them. Kenny handle having all this talent. Because you know, watching him with the Rangers. He had marrying Gabbard blocking shots. Tortorella seems to be the perfect guy to get teams to over cheese. I'm not sure he knows how to deal with skill players who want the puck that are going to be thinking more offense of that. Sometimes when a freelance out of his system now had talent and tap in two thousand and four he had Martin Saint Louis had vanilla cavalier. I mean, he had talent there. There's no question that was a tremendous team in three or four the one that's down the Cup really since then, you know, how did he deal with this deans and Vancouver addity deal with marrying Gabric in New York? You know, how how has he dealt with Pinera n- Columbus? And now you throw in the talent of a new Shane. So it's kind of interesting is good coaches. He is when guys wanna freelance a breakthrough out of their system. Are they given the ability to do that? And is that the best scenario for this Columbus team, they did the right thing because you know, you've got Panara Nebraska temporarily you want to try to squeeze what you can out of them before they walk or maybe convinced them, the stay if you make some sort of Iran. So I'm not criticizing management there. Kick align in her or. David center, any of the guys that went on a choir these players, but you kind of look at the broad scope of it is this the right coach for the talent today. Brought in very interesting to see how the rest is going to go for the blue jackets this season, senators and islanders same deal with the Allender at your home senators are thinking about the future they're playing a bunch of kids. You lost a couple of tough games in a row in the division. It's Washington Philadelphia. You gotta get your two points. So basically, it's like every other night. Islanders play capitals. Play islanders play capitals. Play the capitals are starting to Rev up here. All right now. Maybe it's not as important to win the division for the capitals that is for the islanders. But you know, the island is want to win this division. Senators come to town getting no offense to Ottawa gotta come away with two Panthers and penguins in Pittsburgh same thing for the Panthers. Another penguin. The Panthers are not bad. But you know, Pittsburgh's got to win that game at home against them jets and the lightning and this is a gorgeous game gorgeous seven thirty no surprise of these two teams represent their respective. For the Stanley Cup final this. This should be a fun. When this this might be a game. We're Tampa wakes up a little bit just understanding that even though they know they've got everything under control. Make a nice statement going up against an elite team beat him in your own building wild and predator. Same thing wild good. All right, unbeaten in their last seven the Minnesota wild. That's good team. That's all of a sudden turned it around against the predators team. You know, battling with them. With obviously Winnipeg to the time of that division Rangers and the stars from Dallas. Of course, the Rangers just playing out the string, but Dallas needs this game as well. Keep that playoff position live there. I in the wild card with seventy one points, but Minnesota also has seventy one points Dallas three points back of Saint Louis who they beat over the weekend for third place in the central division with the same outta games. Played less the row wins or thirty three for Dallas thirty three percent, Louis. So just shows how close this thing is so message to Dallas kind of recurring theme here on this podcast your home against the Rangers team. That's thinking about the future. Dallas has to win that game. Same thing for the avalanche home against the Detroit Red Wings avalanche trying to stay alive in the playoffs. They've turned it around a little bit. But still so much work to do there out west sixty eight points, three points out of a playoff spot. Okay. They're six three and one in their last ten but they've lost two in a row. You got to Troy. I gotta win that game. So Columbus islanders penguins stars avalanche. Gotta win heck coyotes to home against the ducks ducks haven't been bad. Ducts sneaky good, but you know, what the Arizona coyotes who haven't gone to the playoffs since going to the conference final back in twenty twelve have put together a really nice streak out there west they sit there now six consecutive wins. Eight and two in their last ten there three points out of the playoff spot with a game in hand against Minnesota. So you could maybe throw the coyotes in that spot. And now, the Canadians who are trying to hang onto that final ploughs about they go out west now, it's not the shark tank that it used to be no pun intended with the shark and on this list, but you know, the kings are bad ducks are fading. So there should be four of a possible. Six points on this western swing and it starts tonight against the Los Angeles Kings. But you've seen these teams go out west and they take the kings lightly. The kings have enough talent there that they can beat you. If you're not. Careful so same goes for Montreal too. So slew of games tonight where you call it a must win just based upon the level of competition. It's March now we're not fooling around times beginning to run out. Everybody's now in the between sixteen seventeen games left in the season. You can't squander point. So there's a slew games tonight majority. Almost all the games tonight have team that really isn't a must-win situation because it's not that often this late in the season. You're kinda gifted a chance to points because of where your competition is in the standings at in the season got to take advantage of that. All right. Let's hear from you at Donald Gregg cash tag game is conduct toady Romo. Kind of starts it off with what we were talking about with the blue jackets going all in on this season. What would be the fallout if they missed the playoffs? The fallout could be everybody just is gone because you might have to start over think of the guys they're going to be walking out the door. You need a goaltender you need a leading score the players that you trade for the the one thing I'm hearing is that the of the of the free. Agents. They got the best chance of resigning would be single. But certainly nobody that you can build on. So you might just see a complete cleaning of the house there. How incredible would that be Chris? Hi, Don in past seasons. The flyers have had late rallies. However, this seems different as it's mostly young players. Connect- key San Heim, Patrick and heart before the injury leading the way rather than vets. Do you agree or is this a last push fool's gold? Well, here's the thing. Sometimes when you make trades, and you move a lot of the guys out of the room that knew they were going to get traded a lot of tension and release comes because you don't have that. When's Wayne Simmons going to get dealt ones? This guy gonna dealt ones that guy getting adult am I gonna get Dell? And now, they know collectively this is the team for the foreseeable future. Kind of brings them together a little bit. I I don't think the flyers are making the playoffs. But we've talked about this before Chris all the things they are doing a giving you a glimpse into the future. And I think that future is very very bright. And why are fanatic says off the top of your head? What is the most heartbreaking loss you've ever witnessed as a hockey fan? Mine is two thousand and fourteen Stanley Cup. Final game five that was heartbreaking. Because I'm I'm doing the pre imposed for that back in New York. I game course was in Los Angeles. And I'm hoping there's a game six back in Madison Square Garden, so I can continue the season and get a chance to work these games that was pretty devastating. But as you guys know grew up a ranger fan of in a group a devil fan. So certainly game seven against the Rangers in the conference final in the nineteen Ninety-four. Certainly a heartbreak for sure that's the one that kind of jumps out of my mind is as the most devastating as a fan. Rich betas, Don, how long will it be before? The Rangers are competitive again and make the playoffs while they are competitive right now, they they never get blown out. But I think what you're talking about is competing for a Stanley Cup. Hey, I think when you consider the young players were given a chance to play Anderson complain a lot he'd been playing a lot hounds come back from his knee injury. You see? The Angelo grow into a pretty good player. I think the Rangers would be very very disappointed if they weren't a playoff team next year. I think they went into this year hoping to make the playoffs. But understanding the reality was that was probably less than fifty fifty specially with the situations with zuccarello in Hayes. But coming back not knowing who they're going to go after but just a young kids getting better still having a world-class goaltender between the pipes. Still having Zabana Jadan Kreider who likely both will becoming off career years, savannah Jad. Definitely I think Kreider will as well that they will be very disappointed on a playoff team. So I think you're still a couple of years away from being a legitimate Cup contender. But I think this team would be red hot. If they weren't in the playoffs next year. Phillips says could you do your lineup with your favorite players through all time, not the best necessarily, but your favorite both active and non-active players. Mine is in goal long quiz on D Lindstrom and Leach. Center Zada Berg, right wing, zuccarello left-wing Lovie. Well, that's pretty good. You know, tweet me tomorrow because I want I want to put a comprehensive less a police Philip tweet me tomorrow because I'd like to think about it and write it down. Man, I've got some off the top of my head. But since you broke it down left wing right wing center instead of just giving it three forwards two defensemen. And a goaltender promised me. Because I got like a mind like a sieve it'll fall right out between my ears tweet me tomorrow. And I'll have you my list JP fifty-five your thoughts on the islanders calling up. Dow coal and ho sang, I I wanna see ho sang. Okay. And I know he's had his issues for sure. But the kids got talent he can dangle. That's for sure I like to see that attitude team. Especially a team that's been struggling on the power play. And what I've seen a Dell call I called a game earlier this year he was in. I liked him. So pay change them things around. I think that listen go back to something Barry did before the leaf game. He canceled practice before the leaf game. Because I think he wanted to remind his team with what's going on. I think the sheer. Motion carry them through that leaf game when they won six to one. Now, I'm not saying, it's fool's gold. They won that game legitimately, especially compared to what the beating them earlier in the year four nothing. But now you've seeing, you know, struggling offensively the last couple of games they had no business big being beaten by Philadelphia the way that they did. Hey, there's no shoe shame losing to Washington special the second back to backs but they've been so good in the second back. So I guess maybe Barry saw something common here. So change some person all around kind of re-jigger things. There's nothing wrong with that. Because even that said as good as they've been, you know, the powerplays been a bit of a problem that's got to get better. This team is going to hang on. And have a have a team. That's got a chance of not just making the playoffs to not just winning this division. But also trying to make a run Calvin says, hey, Don, which coach in the NHL. Do you think is the best personality in the sport, the one that gives the best comedic, but in sight, fullness in the world of coaching would toy. Be up there towards would be up there. He would be now there's a lot of people might disagree of like because he is kind of abusive, but I've always found him to be in stifled. I always found talking to him early. All these coaches, David Quinn is new, but I feel like I know more hockey after talking to him than I did before. I started talking to them. Bruce Boudreau is a trip. He and I remember him back in the capital days. He's a big wrestling fan. He's become the the NHL store when I did it ain't you ally with e j and he come up and just say, oh, yeah. See there. He's shopping with his wife, and he's holding all the clothes his wife's by. And I mean, he's just a fun guys. Got great stories. I read his book, which is tremendous pick it up. If you ever get a chance, I wrote it when he was in Washington with the capitals, and I I always tell the story about Bruce. I was doing sideline reporting with the devils. When the Rangers were playing the capital forget what year it was. And I guess it might have been got. I I can't remember the it might have been thirteen. I've in the first round thirteen and it was before they refurbish the garden. So they're entering at center ice. And I was standing there. Between the benches, and I was in his way. Now, it was it was a tension filled gain wisdom remember that playoff series was very very tight. And instead of yelling instead of pushing the away timing on the shoulders excuse me, and he gave me a smile because he knew I was in the wrong place on accident. I wasn't being a jerk that always remembered that like you saw so insightful so much fun. And he's he he is really just a funny guy inciteful knows hockey played the game was an extra on slapshot. Just just the fun. Gotta talk to those are the two guys that pop into my head. I I think Babcock is not funny by any stretch of the imagination, but very insightful and other guy that when you talk to him one on one you can really feel the the hockey passion in his voice. And and I remember one time when he was with Detroit I was talking to him and they had been struggling and they weren't winning battles in in the corners the puck battles on the ice. And he said, I got two kids and I throw a if I throw something down on the. Round the kid that wants more is gonna come away with it. So that's what I want my players to be the guy that wants it more she'd come away with the puck. And I just thought that was great analogy kind of off the top of said real fun guy, your guy, Calvin I think Peter the bore is a fun guy. I think he's a good guy to talk to really there's so many so many that pouring into my mind right now. But those are the coaches that I think were the most fun to talk to Jack Lemaire was not funny, but he'd very quotable, Pat. Burns was my favorite. Pat was great storyteller. Very passionate very nice to find somebody. That's funny passionate nice. But you can you can make mistakes and not feel intimidated by them by. I'm those are those are the guys that kind of jump into my head that I really just really respect and care about a lot Donald says, hey, Don, my question is for the honors. Do you think the Anders should of made a move at the trade deadline? They haven't played well at all since they didn't go do. Anything in their power plays been awful all season long. They should have gotten a sniper. Well is Lula Morello. Right. So I mean, I don't wanna play the whole, hey, trust Lou thing. But I kind of that's kind of what I'm saying is is that you know, who doesn't suffer fools. He's not going to do because the media says he should sue do something. He's not going to overreact to something. So he didn't see anything that thought they can make his team better. I think he likes the chemistry of this team. He's also looking at the wide angle lens of hey this year. But I I don't want to affect next year and the year after I want to build a team that's going to be good consistently. Good. You know, I don't want. What happened a few years ago under guard snow where they make the playoffs. They they went around. They beat Florida. Remember in two thousand sixteen you know, they lose to tap on the second round. And then make the playoffs again. No, no, no. He wants to build a team that that's going to not want to say dynasty too early to say that but a perennial playoff team a team that could compete for that division every single year. He wants to be the penguins. He wants to be the capitals he wants to be with the Rangers where a few years ago, perennial playoff team that's knocking on. Or for a Stanley Cup. Not just a one trick pony. Like Columbus is trying to be because they've got so many free agents. I mean lose trying to build something long term. And when I saw Lou at the ranger game a couple of weeks ago. I know he's in his seventies. And you might think he's just at the end of the line. He's got enthusiasm excited about this team. He's not going anywhere. And he's healthy far as I know. So now, this is the guy that's here long term. And he's thinking three four five years down the road because I don't think he's going anywhere, and he wants to and if he does he wants to make sure what's left behind his the legacy of putting together a team that can be a perennial playoff team. And I think he's doing a terrific job. So we told you about the important games. Coming up tonight. There's a slew of them. So please get in touch with me at Don the Graca hashtag game has conduct. That's the best way to do. It have some fun with us as well back with again tomorrow recap all the games from tonight. This was the Tuesday edition of games conduct. Listen to gain misconduct. Five Cavs looking for more dumb McGregor. Hear him on the Michael can show weekdays from three to seven pm on ninety eight point seven ESPN in New York and worldwide on the ESPN app. I don't forget to subscribe to the game misconduct podcast on the ESPN app. Google play music apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
"The. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don la- Greco and welcome to the Monday edition of game conduct down down the Greg policies for Friday. I got kids with Coxsackie. My wife's got pneumonia. Let me just it's all falling apart. It really is. I'm sick. So what are you gonna do? So we just didn't have though, I apologize especially to the Allender fans because the Allders crack the top five for the teams of the week for sure, and I wanted to begin there because this is a really cool story that unfortunately, doesn't get a lot of play in New York because you got the Yankees trying to sign their players, and you've got the NFL playoffs going on rejects just hired a coach and all that. And I think fans in hockey fans in general always feel like they get short shrift when things like this taking place, but that's why we have game conduct games conduct was born out of disrespect for the sport. And we're not getting more it because the islanders just been terrific and other win yesterday afternoon against the ducks. And you kind of felt like the Allen is gonna take advantage of ducks team that had struggled at one two in a row after their twelve game losing. Streak, but they played the day before and the Allders red hot eight wins in their last ten five consecutive wins. And the islanders now are in sole possession of first place in the metropolitan division. And they saw that lead grow because of Washington's lost Chicago. So we're talking about a teen. It's got sixty two points, three points at a Columbus for first place in the metropolitan division and heck they're closer to the lightning. Toronto is in second place in the Atlantic Division. When you take a look at the league in general, the Allender right there the fifth best team in the NHL. And they're only a point back of San Jose with two games in hand. They're only two points back of Winnipeg with same out of games played hack. They're only seven points back of Calgary with two games in hand. So this island her team isn't just taking advantage of what's happening in the metropolitan division there. They are a legit good team. They're only three teams in the league that have thirty wins the outer knocking on the door with twenty nine their goal differential is plus twenty six which which is outstanding. Thing we take a look a word that is in the National Hockey League that's fifth best in the NHL. They're getting tremendous goaltending from Leonard. They're getting goals from all different directions. Not relying on just one guy. They're getting production everywhere clutter. Buck now red hot with a couple of goals yesterday. So this thing is for real it really is. And I think they do need to solidify their goaltending at some point. But the writing learner in didn't take advantage of that. So good for the honors, you know, in lieu Lamour Ellas involved in something that eventually it's going to turn itself around. He's responsible for Toronto's turnaround over the last couple of years, and you knew he was gonna make the islanders better team. Maybe doing it quicker than people had intimidated or realize so good job out of them. And then we talk about Toronto. That's a team. That's kind of in free fall right now. Right. They've lost seven of their last ten games. They've lost two in a row. So when you take a look at the standings right now, the outer taking over first place and. Tap not being touched in the land division. It's really opened the door now for being wide open in the Eastern Conference here of you might you've if you mess around you can fall to the wildcard or maybe even out of the playoffs. Toronto right. Now's got sixty points. They've got a six point lead as far as falling out of the playoffs. Concern Buffalo's play the same out of games at forty eight. But the way things are going through Onta there's got to be concerned there. And also the fact that Boston is only a point back Boston coming off a tough loss to the Rangers on Saturday that you want wanna get that home ice advantage in Toronto's worked so hard that they might not be able to hold onto that home ice advantage in Boston's been their achilles heel for years now in the playoffs. So Toronto really want to have this resurgence only to have to play Boston in the first round of the playoffs and on top of that have to play them on the road. So some legitimate things to be concerned about their in Toronto. They've got Anderson back, but they're just not scoring goals. Now, the clip they were before there's something about. Them playing at home. I thought they were over that. But now they're thirteen eleven once we're talking about basically a five hundred team on home ice. So very interesting things happening there in Toronto got a chance to see Boston firsthand on on Saturday team that's healthy. But I do think they can get exposed a little bit on their blue line with McEvoy Carlo the younger players there. I think they're very good. But I also think they're very top heavy to with getting production from their top line and little else. So if you shut down their top line, I think you could shut down the Bruins. And now Montreal is totally involved in this. They've got fifty nine points. The only reason they're not in third place in the they played one more game than Boston. But they got the same out of wins his Boston. So teams like Toronto in Boston be careful because you might fall to the wild guard here with Montreal's resurgence seems like since we've talked about Carey price. He's played tremendous hockey. They had a bit of a disappointing. It's Philadelphia on Saturday, but other than that Montreal's played very well winning six of their last ten Pittsburgh's gotten exposed on. This western trip. They did win in Arizona and overtime. Then dropped a tough game to Vegas where they gave up a touchdown in a seven two three defeat to the Vegas Golden Knights. So things are very interesting in the Eastern Conference, but not even close down. Interesting. They are in the west with Nashville struggles Winnipeg has been able to open up now a four point lead with two games in hand on Asheville. You got a team like Anaheim that has lost thirteen of their last fifteen games and are still only a point out of a playoff spot. Then couvert which is a tremendous story is actually in the play offs fifty games into the season. I don't think anybody anticipated that to happen. And we had somebody on Twitter rejete about how I feel about Travis green for coach of the year. He is starting to move up in Bill Peters territory as far as being able to win this coach of the year although Calgary just continues to win. They now have a six point. All over San Jose in the Pacific Division. But you've got here. The teams out right now as we speak here. A Martin Luther King day right on January twenty first before play actually starts recording this two o'clock in the afternoon. Minnesota a point out Anaheim a point out Edmund tin three points out of a plow spot with a game in hand on Vancouver. Arizona four points out of a playoff spot, the Arizona coyotes who played well five three and two in their last ten therefore points out of a playoff spot with two games in hand Saint Louis five points out of a plow spot. But with three games in hand. I mean, that's what you have. All right, Chicago in Los Angeles. I draw the line at seeing Louis Chicago. Even though they had a spirit win over Washington yesterday there. I think they're out. They've played fifty games. They're nine points out of a ploughs, we'll draw the line there. So we're sitting here on Martin Luther King. Day January twenty first with everybody having played at least forty seven games where there's only two teams out of it in the Western Conference only two in the east. It's a little different. I think I draw the line of Carolina. All right Carolina, seven points out probably not gonna make it. You wanna say they still have a pulse. But I think the Rangers are out there nine points out of the playoff spot Florida their twelve points out of a playoff spot. They do have a game in hand on Pittsburgh. But it's going to be so tough. Now, the Rangers are hurt by the fact that they are still ten points out of third place in the metropolitan division. So you draw the line there? So I think Rangers Florida Philadelphia New Jersey auto, Detroit, I think as right now unless there's just some sort of a major turnaround, I think those teams are done. So it's interesting how it seemed everybody but to or alive in the Western Conference, but in the Eastern Conference I've. Got to teams out of the playoffs right now. Buffalo and Carolina and Carolina basically holding on by a thread, so completely different situation. For those teams in the west is opposed to the east of your in the Western Conference. Everybody would be alive, but the east is a little bit different. Because you you're very top heavy also very interesting, and we've talked about this a lot on game is conduct. How a true indication of a good. You are is your goal differential. There's thirty one teams league only fourteen teams have a plus goal differential. Now that could change Dallas is at minus two. Buffalo is a minus four Minnesota's minus five a good week in change that but only fourteen of the thirty one teams of A-plus goal differential, which is kind of crazy. Our let's hear from you. We didn't have one on Friday. So I wanted to get caught up here with your tweets at Donald Gregg ashtec game, his conduct rookie says when do the fans ever chant the coach's name islander fans did on Sunday. And that's right. Barry trots, obviously in the conversation for coach of the year. He says his top five. Five or islanders islanders. Islanders islanders. I hope your family is feeling better. And thank you for your time to fit in the show. Yeah. The islanders again. I feel so good for our fans. And I mentioned that when the islanders I guess last Thursday where Madison Square Garden I had a chance to talk to Amaral, and I've known Lou for years, we're not close at all by any stretch. But you know, covered them with the devils and have known him for quite a long time. And he's just giddy. He's just feel a resurgence being with his team. He says he's getting along with Barry. His son is very much involved. They were sitting together his son, Chris. So the feeling about the age of Lula Morello should not be a concern defense. He just totally into it. Mark says do you think the combo by plus all-star break hurts our helps the Rangers. Now, the Rangers won three in a row. One four their last five nice follow up to the five game losing streak, but they've got playing again until January twenty ninth because of their by Philadelphia's got it too and Boston's going through it and a lot of other teams as well. L coinciding with all star game having ten days off. Yes. The Rangers desperately need this because you see some of their younger kids. How'd and hasn't scored he's played rarified air here playing so many games. He needs the break heels warming up. So maybe it comes at a bad time for heels had two amazing goals in the last two games in Chicago and Boston. But I think he can use the break as well. Hang said it after the game they're on fumes. They played every other day now for the last month. So yes, I I know that you're playing well, and you want you don't wanna see this end with a long lay-off, but they desperately need the break. And they've got some guys that are really sucking wind. So I think it's this is a good break for everybody. Forever t h is looking back. What were some of the biggest trade deadline deals and what big one do you see coming this season? While the Panara Nebraska thing is is real. I mean Columbus's right there in the playoffs. But they're still a lot of rumors about that Tarasenko possibility in Saint Louis. That's some rumblings about that. But Tara vein just signed a contract extension with Carolina. So that's very interesting. I thought that would be somebody that we get traded ROY anama Anaheim already made a bunch of moves. So I don't know what's going to happen there with so many teams still alive. It's really focusing now on the teams that are out of it in the Eastern Conference, right. Because all those teams in the west still think they've got a chance to make it. So right now, you're scouring who's on Los Angeles. Who's on Chicago? Those are the only two teams in the Western Conference. But right now, you're looking at New Jersey could they make a move. Who's is Wayne Simmons somebody that's going to be traded from Philadelphia seems very likely goodness. A guy that's rumor to go. What is Florida decide to do with some of their players the Rangers? Kevin hayes. I don't think the Rangers are gonna make it so hazing zuccarello certainly some name. So I think when I think of deadline deals you go back to the devils. Getting the o'bryan wasn't a big deal. But he was a huge player. For them. And they're running nineteen ninety-five to win ninety four. The Rangers made all those moves from toe and Newnan antiquing in those were big deals for them to help them win the Stanley Cup in nineteen Ninety-four. So yeah, those are some of the deals that I kind of think of the pop in the top of my head. But I think there could be some very shrewd deals as we're getting close to a month away now from the trading deadline. Sam d say, Don, wishing good health for your family to questions with Hank moving up on the all time win list. Do you think anyone can top row doors, six ninety one and two what is up with ho-sang is he so talented? It's a shame that he can't crack the islanders lineup yet. Listen has been issues there and obviously lose not gonna play game. So there's a place for saying way to town to right now, you're not gonna mess with the chemistry of the owners have right now. No, it's tough to believe that anybody's gonna top row door right now. The only two active goaltenders that are in that top six Hank with four forty six. Now, a sixth all-time and Roberta Longo, I think is a four eighty one. One. He's fourth all time. Those guys aren't going to be catching because of their age. Hank is thirty six years old Longos about turn forty. But who knows what the what the shootout now in the three on three overtime with no ties it could happen. But it's not gonna happen anytime soon because nobody currently on the list now things got much of a chance of getting the six getting to number one with broder. Matt says Don, it seems like penalty shots are being called less and less league-wide. Do you agree with this? And can you explain why? Or why not this is the case? Happy to be listening to one of the best podcasts out there again. Thank you. Matt not sure I haven't noticed. There hasn't been a lot of penalty shots with think the way the speed of the league that you would see more of them called. I can honestly say Matt in the games that I've called them the games that I watched you know, I watch a lot of hockey where I've seen a no call that should have been a penalty. Shots. I'm not really sure I don't think there's enough evidence to say there's been a mandate by the league to have less of them. If anything I think there'd be more because the fans really like it. But I'll have to keep more of an eye on that Sean says New York Islanders going from most goal against in the National League last ten years to the fewest gold against league this year should make trots a lock for the Jack Adams, do you think of another team that has made a turnaround like this from one year to the next without adding major talent. I think. It's a good question. When Gibo shea went to Ottawa I saw change in Carlson. I saw change in them from offense the defense, but not as drastic as the islanders. Obviously. Barry trots going from Nashville to Washington. I saw a major change of jobs. You how good Barry is don't sleep on what Bill Peters doing in Calgary as well. I mean, this is one of the best teams in league. So I think there will be a battle for the Jack Adams trophy. But that's the one team the islanders when you look at and you say, and that's no offense to all the coaches that they've had since Arbor because they've had some decent ones for sure. Labile that was good with the Allender 's I think there's been some good solid head coaching there. But you you look at the outage, you could just see the difference that a coach can make just it's really unbelievable. Dan, says will the Panara and maybe give up Everley and pick. There's gonna be a lot of competition for Panara n-, especially with Columbus being still very much alive for a playoff spot number two right now in the metropolitan division. So I'm not sure Emily pick is going to be enough to get him. But Lou is aggressive. We talked about before is the guy that picked up Gilmore this guy that picked up Alexander Mogilny when they are in New Jersey. He's not going to sit back, and Lou will make deals and parent is available. He will make that deal because I think the east is wide open Tampa is standing there by itself, but they can be had we've seen great teams fall in the postseason before in the Allders can see value in making a run only one time in the last twenty five plus years of the been out of the first round of the plows and the. Season ended today. They would take on a wildcard team right now. They would take on. They would take on Montreal in the first round of the playoffs. The waste things would end Tampa would take on Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's the second wildcard, obviously can change. Now. We're talking about your points can change all of that. But I think Luisita value with with the new building common of making some sort of Iran can islander Mets says ousters habit on fire. Leonard has been sensational. What peace do they added the deadline? Power forward. Stay at home defensemen or both while very difficult to find solidify that blue line if he can and try to add a another piece offense of -ly. I think would be exactly what lose looking for. And I think Panetta and would just be unbelievable if they can do that, Mr. mustache says, okay? Let's try to get your thoughts on that Carolina. Minnesota trade. Let's go back to that deal. It's crazy because I never trade a winger for a center. You know Rask is a center. Nita rider as right winger both of them making way more money than they probably deserve as far as how they're doing. Especially Rask was underachieve was playing on the fourth line with Carolina's. You're hoping a bit of a change of scenery. But I always like in. I've talked about this jail allot of times in our talks together over the years and doing NHL live together you build up the middle. So I like the fact that Minnesota was able to add a center, especially with some of the age of their centers like stall like Teresi. So I I like what Minnesota did with that deal Rask can find himself a hopefully he can because that's been bit of a problem. Robert says do you think making the blue line narrower were cut down on the number of goals reversed on offside reviews? Current wide aligns make it harder for linesmen to tell if the puck entered the zone before the player. Good call. I think that's something leaks. You look at also they should do away with the rule of the. With the the skate off the ice because that just drives everybody crazy with depth perception. So I think the change that as well. Chris has hi, Don. There's a lot of flyer fans like myself that are feeling torn we like the play of Carter heart and improved of a and the improvement of Nolan. Patrick did up a couple of goals against Montreal on Saturday, by the way Hughes an Kako could help the team more than anyone else. They would acquire via trade and unrestricted free agency. How should I feel of you're talking about like tanking for the for the for the pick? If that's what you're suggesting. I think you just play it out and see where it goes. Because you got to get these players and build some confidence and you want heart to win because it looks like he stuck up here because of the injuries, right? So you want on the play. Well, so I just think he'd play it out. You know, the whole thing of where are you gonna finish with the best picks? And all that we saw when the devils and then Philadelphia fans know this when the devils won the the first overall pick when they got Nita ride when they got. He share in the you guys got Patrick that the devils weren't the worst team play play it out. See these guys these young defenseman. Get better. See this goaltending get better. And if it means a fall out of a top pick. Then I think that's just what you have to live with because I just want you the building the culture of winning and having these young guys experienced that winning. I know it's hard as a fan to to miss out on a great talent like that. But since it's not guaranteed, anyway, it's not like the old days when Pittsburgh tank for lem you and the devils end that have getting Kirk Muller back in nineteen Eighty-four that'd be one thing. But with the percentage is working against you. Anyway, just play it out and see these young kids experience what it's like to win. And you had to feel good about what they did in Montreal that was hot team those team playing well hockey nine candidate, and they just played exceptional against Montreal in Montreal which is tough place to win especially on the Saturday night. So I think there's value to that. So thanks guys for hanging in. We'll get back with the again tomorrow. It have had EJ today. But because of the early games. Schedule got changed around the NFL networks, we'll have EJ Radic tomorrow for the first time and god-knows-how-long. So we're looking forward to that. So if you want to tweet any questions at Donald Gregg Ashta game, his conduct look forward to that. Thanks again for participating back with again tomorrow. This was the Monday addition of game has conduct. To gain misconduct podcast looking for more dumb. Mcgrath. Hear him on the Michael can show weekdays from three seven pm on ninety eight point seven ESPN in New York and worldwide on the ESPN app. I don't forget to subscribe to the game misconduct podcast on the ESPN app. Google play music apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Travel Throwback: Car Trip Complaints
"Hello and welcome to the parenting roundabout podcasts for the week of june fourteenth. Twenty twenty one. I'm katherine echo. I'm here with terry. Morrow and the knicks. But only for a minute. Because we're taking a vacation this week not to worry though. We'll still be bringing you a podcast episode every day. We've reached into our copious archives to bring you some recent discussions about travel now. That summer is here and we're all starting to be able to leave our homes again. Maybe some of us. I have a great about road trips. leg which you just took a long one i did like many people probably did over the school vacation. That just ended We took a long trip. It was about nine hours each way in the car and heather airplanes for that. There are but then you have to deal with airplanes airports and that is schedule. And you can't haul the amount of stu- toward the that's true. That's true our hearts yes so So i don't know it was just. It was a lot and also i was very disappointed in my license plate collecting. Because i feel that when you're in the car for eighteen hours on major highways and you pass through four states. You should see more than thirty three state license. Don't you think. I feel like i think now with the kids playing with you or were they lost in their devices. They were pretty much less than their devices. So i probably mental yeah. I know we're doing this. Just all by yourself. Mostly and i fall asleep time to. I'd nodded off. Let's say i need to. Yeah they need to make an app where you can just sort of hold the phone up and it will scan all the license plates nearby men honing on the ones that you need for your list. That's knew his brother up prop it up on the dashboard taken out. And then later on you'll have war game. It was car bingo like we would play man. It was like this plastic thing you held and you started a bingo card and recent up your sale at rug roadside diners. andrei over. They made we actually. Have we have some of those The you just kind of shift the little cellophane tab over the thing that you've seen yeah Young once in a while. My son pulses out. But like i got i went to the library. I got to audio books to listen to but nobody else wanted to listen to them. I wanted to be on their own device. And you know. When i wasn't i could have insisted on the audio books when i was driving but i wasn't driving the whole time so and then i wouldn't have been able to hear the whole thing so Yeah it's it's like good news bad news when you have three drivers. Yeah so did your daughter do some of the driver. She did show a big step asleep. Then no no. And i insisted on sitting in the front seat. My son wanted to be up there with her. I was like. I think we need an experienced her to hit the did not exist. Ra very important work. Did you have to listen to what she wanted to listen to on the radio where did she what did she like having to listen to while she was driving. Yes she wanted to plug in her phone in have her own Like spotify playlist. Yeah tolerable well. Then i i put in my own podcast for some of it. Like i figured if i had my eyes were open. I didn't need my ears to be listening to what she was listening to light but then she also. She has a spotify playlist. That's like sort of modern broadway like it has oh nasr hamilton. And it also has the mix tapes in the hammill. Drabs ended has an answer in their dear evan. Yup and the greatest showman a lot of russia man stuff like that so that was a pretty good one. That's good. i think. I've seen that on last summer. Yeah i don't know the name of it is. I should find out but not want a road trip with my kids or my husband. What are they listen to. Oh you don't wanna know it's all a bunch of stuff that i'm sure you would not being you wake no right. It's just saw this alternative stop and you know my daughter has this kind of we call it emo music which is so bad on so derogatory for driving though some hardest like to mellow for driving. I always say she's like no. It pumps me up. I'm like oh okay. Son has heavy duty alternative music and my husband's got his rock music. Nobody the sleep in my car. No my kids liked to listen to a mike. My daughter has like a pop radio station and my son has like an oldies radio station. That i make him put on that somebody he knows likes so those are fun. I like the oldies one. Obviously because i recognize everything and when my husband is driving. I always try to find something like that to like music that he will recognize like the seventies but It was it you know. It's just long no matter no matter how you slice it and we did stop you now. We stopped a few times of course because we are who we are. We stopped at a random ice rink in the suburbs of chicago. To get some skates sharpens. Oh boy shorts. You did so that poor well because my daughter mediator escape. Start band in the person who usually sharpens them At home comes kind of from out of town and he was coming on the very day that we were driving saw wouldn't weren't able to bring them to him and some a lot of people we now go into this person in chicago. Literally like two hundred miles from where we live But people really like this. This one place so i thought well we're kind of going to be passing by there so let's just up there and We managed to get there early before it opens so then we had to hang around waiting for it to open. And then somebody had an appointment who for right when it opens. We had to wait for them to finish their business. And then we can have our term manuel and the it only takes a few minutes. But you just happen to have the skates with you or you. You brought them with for this purpose. We brought them with to us on our visit. Because you know there's ice rinks out for bill another thing that because we had the car and we might flying you could just throw them in. Yeah it's dangerous because for both of my kids it was gonna be like five six days without skating. Which is yeah. I level that they couldn't bring those. Wow so so yeah that was. That was fun fun day. Twice the first time we did not stop at the ice rink but And also i would. Like i believe i have complained on this podcast. Once before about the lameness of the food. Offerings at the rest stops in the state of indiana. Really like ohio you have they have panara and stummer bugs like yes and illinois. They have some pretty decent ones. Indiana which is bright when we need to eat like It's it's gas stations literally like convenience stores that so that's not are you talking about. What did he say when you like arrest stop like that like where you pull off over the road and people are parked and get out news of not the ones that are only like bathrooms in Sheen's the ones where it's like a gas station and they usually have a couple of different fast food in that kyle. I they have those in california. I'm thinking that they don't have them in new jersey. Like on the logo I think it's because they don't have pay highways there. It's like here. you're stay on it for a really long time. So they have these every so often. There'll be a place where you can just sort of get off and there's two or three fast. Food selections and bathrooms in gas station. All in one. But you're not actually getting off the highway. It's sort of like a little ramp offramp back on right so you don't get off. Pay the toll. Go to mcdonald's and then get have to get back on the highest cetera. I think it's a toll road thing. I think in your new jersey. They have starbucks at some other. Like you have to get where they have food trucks. But not like these are actually. There'll be a big building and within the big building they'll be like a mall food court except you know K different places. They have them in toronto. Maybe it's an east coast thing. Maybe i think it's just so that you don't have to get off the toll road her. They have to provide sustenance right up to provide in and outgo periodically from people who want to stay on the road and not have to go through all the whole lab or at us right now. Well that's disappointing. What is it about indiana. I don't know what do they got against travelers. Don't know like vermont. Where there's no fast food restaurants at all. I don't get it. i mean the. The gas stations sells like sandwiches. Whatever gestation sandwich that's hepatitis. I know we've need to just like stock up on fast food in the state before i and just keep it warm. Have like a like a big. You know cooler with the heating trae in the bottom and just put your hamburgers. They are ruining ring them. I'm sure that would be delicious to do that next time. Next time if you can find some room for it with all the skates gifts scape christmas gifts and the audio books feeding collections that you're not using dancing. For today's parenting roundabout throwback travel. Talk tune in tomorrow for another fun episode and remember. We'll have brand new episodes for you next week.
Second-Listen Saturday: Car Trip Complaints
"Welcome to second. Listen saturday on the parenting roundabout podcast where we share some fun moments past episode for your weekend listening. Pleasure look for new episodes every monday. Through friday i have a gripe about road trips Leg which you just took a long one. I did like many people probably did over the school vacation. That just ended We took a long trip. It was about nine hours each way in the car and heather airplanes for that. There are but then you have to deal with airports and that is true schedules. And you can't haul the amount of stuff that wrought with that's true that's true our hearts. Yeah so so. i don't know it was just. It was a lot and also. I was very disappointed in my license plate collecting because i i feel that when you're in the car for eighteen hours on major highways and you pass through four states. You should see more than thirty three state license. Don't you think. I feel like waiting now with the kids playing with you or were they lost in their devices. They were pretty much lost in their devices. So i probably mental. Yeah i know doing this. Just all by yourself. Mostly and i still fall asleep a time to. I'd nodded off. Let's say i need to make. Yeah they need to make an app where you can just sort of hold the phone up and it will scan all the license plates nearby men honing on the ones that you need for your list. That's not. They knew his brother brought it up on the dash. More take a nap. And then later on you'll have figures game was car bingo like we would play. Yeah yeah and it was like this plastic thing you held and you started a bingo card and your sale at roadside diners country over. They made my own. We actually have. We have some of those The you just kind of shift the little cellophane tab over the thing that you've seen. Yeah yes once in a while. My son pulses us out. But like i got i went to the library. I got to audio books to listen to but nobody else wanted to listen to them. Wanted to be on their own device. And you know when i wasn't i could have insisted on the audio books when i was driving but i wasn't driving the whole time so and then i wouldn't have been able to hear the whole thing you know. So yeah it's it's like good news bad news when you have three drivers. Yeah so did your daughter do some of the driver. She did so. That's a big step asleep. Then no and. I insisted on sitting in the front seat. My son wanted to be up there with her. I think we need an experienced wrestler to hit the d. Non-existent vary oray. Yes very important work. Did you have to listen to what she wanted to listen to on the radio where did she what did she like having to listen to while she was driving. Yes she wanted to plug in her phone in. Have her own like spotify playlist tolerable. Well then i put in my own podcast for some of it. Like i figured if i have my eyes were open. I didn't need my ears to be listening to it. She was listening to but then she also she has a spotify playlist. That's like sort of modern broadway like it has as hamilton and it also has the mix tapes in the hamill drabs ended had their of enhance in their dear evan yet and the greatest showman a lot of show man Stuff like that so that was pretty good. One looks good. I think i've seen that seen that last summer. Yeah i don't know what the name of it is. I should find out but man. So yeah not want a road trip with my kids or my husband. What are they listen to. Oh you don't wanna know it's all a bunch of stuff that i'm sure you would not being awake though right. It's alternative stuff. And i know you know my daughter has this kind of we call emo music which is so bad on so derogatory for driving those artists. Like isn't it to mellow for driving. I always saying she's like no. It pumps me up. I'm like oh okay. My son has heavy duty alternative music and then my husband's got his rock music so nobody saw asleep in my car. No my kids like to listen to mike. My daughter has like a pop radio station and my son has an oldies radio station. That i make him put on that somebody he knows likes so those are fun. I like the oldies one. Obviously i recognize everything and when my husband is driving. I always try to find something like that to like music. That he will recognize like the seventies but he had it was it. You know it's just long no matter no matter how you slice it and we did stop you know. We stopped a few times and of course because we are who we are. We stopped at a random ice rink in the suburbs of chicago to get some skates sharpens elbow courts. You did that for well because my daughter meter skates sharpened and the person who usually sharpens them. at home comes kind of from out of town and he was coming on the very day that we were driving. Wouldn't we weren't able to bring them to him and some a lot of people we now go into this person in chicago. Literally like two hundred miles from where we live But people really like this. This one place so i thought well we're kind of going to be passing by there so let's just up there and we managed to get there early before it opens so then we had hanging around waiting for it to open. And then somebody had an appointment who for right when it opens. We had to bleep for them to finish their business. And then we could have our turn while you know and it only takes a few minutes but you just happen to have the skates with you or you. You brought them with for this purpose. We brought them with to us on our visit Because you know there's ice rinks out for bill another thing that because we had the car and we might flying you could just throw them in. Yeah that's a dangerous because for both my kids it was gonna be like five six days without skating which is yeah i too will. That's they couldn't they bring those so so yeah. That was our those are fun. Fun day twice the first time we did not stop at the ice rink but and also i would like i believe i have complained on this podcast once before about the lameness of the food. Offerings at the rest stops in the state of indiana reeling. Like ohio you have. They have panara in stummer bugs like yes and illinois they have some pretty decent ones indiana which is bright when we need to eat unlike It's it's gas stations literally like convenience stores that so. That's not restaurant are you talking about. What did he say when you mean like rest. Stop like that like where you pull off over. The of the road and people are parked and get out news not the ones that are only like bathrooms in belka. Sheen's the ones where it's like a gas station and they usually have a couple of different fast food in that kyle hit. They have those in california. I'm thinking that they don't have them in new jersey like on the gun the I think it's because they don't have pay highways there. It's like here you're road. Say stay on it for a really long time and so they have these every so often. There'll be a place where you can just sort of get off and there's two or three fast. Food selections and bathrooms in gas station. All in one. But you're not actually getting off the highway. It's just sort of like a little. You know ramp off ramp back on right so you don't get off. Pay the toll go to mcdonald's and then get you have to get back on the highway et cetera. I think it's a toll road thing. Yeah these array. I in your new jersey. They have starbucks at some other. Like you have to where they have food trucks. But not like these are actually. There'll be a big building and within the big building they'll be it's like sort of like a mall food court except you know o. k. Two or three different places. They have them in toronto. Maybe it's an east coast thing. Maybe i think it's just so that you don't have to get off the toll road. Yeah they have to provide sustenance after provide input and outgo periodically from people who want to stay on the road and not have to go through the whole top lever at us right. Well that's disappointed. What is it about indiana. I don't know what do they got against travelers. Don't know like vermont. Where there's no fast food restaurants at all. I don't get it. i mean the. The gas stations sells like sandwiches. Whatever gas station sandwich. that's hepatitis. I know we need to just like stock up on fast food in the state before. I just keep it warm. They have like a like a big. You know cooler with the heating trae and the bottom and just put your hamburgers there for ring meet them. I'm sure that would be delicious. Have to do that next time next time if you can find some room for it with all. The skates was games christmas gifts and the audio books cd collections there.
Wednesday Whip Around
"The lease. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don. La- Greco had welcome to the Wednesday. They should of game is conduct. Download Greco lots to get into. And of course, the major controversy from last night in the Bruins four one win over the San Jose Sharks. Was the hit by today? No charge to the head of Vander. Kane came down today. No supplementary disrepair disciplined by the National Hockey League. He did receive an elbow. Ing penalty for the hit. And he also had received a penalty for the fight with a Vander Cain. You're looking at the replay. It's a very difficult spot for K for char because char is so much bigger than Cain in the play is back behind the net canes reaching for the puck, he's down. So the choice for char is to hit or not to hit. Now. Did he get the elbow up? Did he target the head? You can't get inside. The guy's head certainly Char's got a history because he's been in the league so damn long. So of course, he's going to have these situations, and he could tell Cain right away not hurt but upset when? Right after chara fought him. He's very upset today. There was no suspension for chara. But I think the league looks at it and says what do you do when you're this kind of a tall player? Canes heads down. You wanna make a hit? I mean, he it's legal to hit him. But there's almost no way for char to hit him without the head being the contact point. So char is only choice would be not to make contact with. It would be impossible for him. They hit him without the head coming into play. So it's a tough spot. Chara kind of turns around he knows canes there. So he knows he wants to hit them. And as he turns canes kinda down and the head gets hit. So I can understand where the league is coming from not suspending him. But I understand the shark side of it. We're hey, this is a star player on the team. They end up losing him to a concussion so close to the playoffs. There should be some sort of a disciplined, but I think there has to be that between where you have to allow the physicality of the play. And if I had to guess, I would think the chargers intention was not to target the head. It just was unfortunate circumstance for Vander came. But I can kind of see both sides of it. But. Looking at the replay last night. I thought that maybe they might give them a game wasn't really sure. So I'm not really floored by the fact that he did not receive a suspension and really doesn't matter to the sharks because they're not in the same conference has Boston. They don't play them. Again, you're going to have a suspension that was going to spill all the way to the Stanley Cup final and they could possibly meet each other again. So you wanna see the discipline? But it's not like it's in the middle of playoff series where it could affect the sharks. Where one of their better players. One of their veteran players wouldn't be able to play four unanswered goals for the Bruins in this one after Logan Qatar given the sharks the lead with its twenty third of the year. But Craig Chee McEvoy debrusk Marchand again spreading the wealth for Boston who I think are very dangerous. They're healthy. All right. They know they're not catching tap. And no one is. But if they can get that home ice advantage, especially without sluggish Toronto has been over the last week or so, and it's still a lot of play before we get to the playoffs. But I think Boston is sneak. Ski good. They really are now fourteen straight games with a point. Just incredible Ron that. The Boston Bruins are on to try to get that home-ice advantage. Flames beat the Allders three to one at the Coliseum. This was a one one game. When Bailey gets his fourteenth of the year in the second period. But then the third period back Lynn gets a seventeenth. And that's an interesting player to look at because so much talk about goodra season. He picked up his fiftieth assist, by the way on the back on goal that turned out to be the game winner. And of course, the Monahan of the way he has played, but backlands a guy that is very quietly becoming a leader on this team and can become a force on this team that you're not really talking about beyond the the Bonn hands and the Dros and the players of that ilk. And then Rasmus Andersson gets his second to put it away about two minutes later, and it was just that quick two minute span and a third period the cost the islanders win. I know we talked about it yesterday with EJ Radic lot of island or. Fans of set today to make any deals, and then of course, you couple the flames beat of the with the fact capital scores. Seven unanswered goals to beat the senators by the final score of seventy two it shows how precarious the islanders situation is both teams have seventy nine points. Now the islanders have two games in hand on Washington. That's certainly comes into play. But the row wins are the same. And I think the islanders need to kind of pick things up here. Just a little bit a last couple of games not gravely. They lost three of their last four. And now Carolina's crept up is the third place team with seventy four points. They're just five points back of the Anders. But again, the islanders have the games in hand. They've got two games in hand on Washington. A game in hand on Carolina of game in hand on Pittsburgh. Same out of games played his Columbus of the elders is still in good shape. But certainly a little shaky over the last week or so and couple that with the fact that no moves the deadline may be have a few fans a little scared capitals. As I mentioned seven answer goals. They spot the senators to nothing lead get too late in the first period of time. And just a mammoth fourth third period with four goals to really put it away. So the capital's finding their groove now capitals of scored thirteen goals in their last two games member. They beat the Rangers on Sunday six five and then put up a seven spot and really doing it without AmEx Alexander Ovechkin he did not score a goal and either of the two games in which the thirteen were scored. So that makes Washington a little scary as well. Because other guys are getting done. Who's nets off now has seventeen Oshii now has twenty so good job outta them. Sabres and free fall. They lose to the flyers five to two I think buffalo is pretty much cooked and now with hurricanes plan the way they're playing. They had a great spot last night taken on a kings team that had motionless shootout loss to Tampa the night before could they muster to performances like that in a row and the answer clearly was not twenty five goals now for Sebastian Aho Tara vein, and now knows he's staying put he's got eighteen Dougie Hamilton's having a great year on the blue line. He's got twelve goals on the season. So. So good job six straight goals to start the game for the Carolina Hurricanes who were red hot and Alan third place in the metro, and we've talked about this so many time trying to get that third place. Spot is that you want to try to have to put a situation where you're not a wildcard team how to face Tampa early. Maybe Carolina trying to make the plan for the first time in ten years. If you remember in two thousand nine the last time they made the playoffs. They went to the conference final hoping that they can maybe do that. Again. We'll see a penguins with an I statement win five two win over the Columbus, blue jackets. So the jackets make all those moves but their first game against Pittsburgh. And they come up a dud five two they fell behind three nothing in this game. They fought back after Gansel McCann and Malcolm got goals to make it three nothing. Columbus showed some harp York strand with his twelfth Atkinson with its thirty fifth thinks of the three two game going to third period. But can gets a second Crosby into the empty net for his twenty seven th of the year. So Pittsburgh now back in the playoffs with the victory. Canadians bounced back nicely after their loss to the devils by pounding the Red Wings by the final score of eight to one five points for max Domi hat trick for Shaw and the Red Wings. I watched a lot of the post game show because they just wanted to see what the reaction was going to be. They were just devastated by how poorly they played. And I know they're thinking about a draft pick. And I know that after the deadline. You know, they Nyquist is gone. They made a few moves or whatever. But at home, you lose eight to one that's pretty embarrassing, and you could sense from everybody within that organization. Even though it may benefit them down the road by maybe sneaking in and trying to get that first pick just an embarrassment regional six matchup at home to disgraced like that awful. But a nice bounce back from entre olas, they're in a death battle to not only make the playoffs. But also to get one of those top three spots in the division. Although all that means is you're going to have to play Tampa in the second round. There's no avoiding that there in your division. Huge win for the blue. Lose to nothing over the predators. This game was scoreless going into the third period and deep into the third period were Bosak gets his tenth at twelve thirty five. And then it was Betrand Gelo into the empty net on the power play to make it to nothing. So that's a nice win Nashville play the night before. So certainly Saint Louis was in a good spot there. But boy have the blues made just an incredible Ron even though they had their eleven game winning streak snapped last week Saint Louis playing terrific hockey, eight one and one in their last ten so they come off the big victory in the division. Now have seventy four points. Here's how it looks. All right. Saint Louis is in third place in the central. All right there. Five points back in Nashville, but they have three games in hand. So very much this division is up for grabs for sure. So what an amazing moment at two in the first week of January be dead last in the league tonight with a chance to win your division. It's one of the great turns around turnarounds in the history of this sport, really. In one season. I don't think I'm exaggerating that that's it's been huge. And now to be able to play the whether playing within the division. Major major statement by the Saint Louis blues for sure has national makes all the trades lose. Columbus makes all the trades. They lose and also the jets made the deals they lose at home to the wild. And now Minnesota is starting to put things together for sure so a three two win in Winnipeg where it seems like the jets never lose Shifu had given Winnipeg three a one nothing lead with its thirty first of the year, and they had a two to one lead going into third after line a scored his twenty ninth of the season. So Minnesota's down a goal going into the third period in one of the most hostile environments in the league, and they end up getting the wind scoring late Zuqar or gets a sixteenth at eighteen thirty three Eric's enact puts it away with the empty netter. But you mean just think about that everything was going Winnipeg's way and Minnesota again with the huge win. In on the road late to not just get the two points. But to get the two points in regulation, so Minnesota who is in freefall have now won foreign row their first place in the wildcard. And who knows the way things are going with them. Now, sixty four points. I mean, they're still six points back Saint Louis with having played one more game. So I don't think they're going to be able to work their way in the top three in the central but Minnesota despite being minus ten goal differential, despite the fact that fear radically under five hundred at home fourteen thirteen in five, you know, they still lost more games that they won on home ice. That's a huge win for them four in a row. So maybe Bruce Boudreau was right to begin with. Hey, I still think this team is going to make the plows as what he said on the same day that his general manager said they'll make deals even if it comes at the expense of the Megan the playoffs, but they've really rallied. Shootout win for the coyotes. They keep their hopes alive and a nice win for the Vegas Golden Knights as well. Four one over the Dallas Stars. So. The stars come off the win over Chicago. Can't put it together to make it a couple of wins in the row. They're patch. Ready scores twice for the Vegas Golden Knights. So they make the deal for stone. But it's Pacha ratty the deal they made in the off season that helps them end up picking up that win. So great job by Vegas again. There's there are no man's land of they're not going to be able to catch you the sharks or the the Calgary. Flames in the division. Probably not gonna fall into the wild card, but you know, keeping themselves in that playoff race in the Pacific Division games tonight. There's five of them, but they're all pretty important Maple Leafs in the Oilers. This was an exciting match up the last couple of years everybody dreamed of this being a potential Stanley Cup final. Obviously Edmonton's completely lost their way and the Maple Leafs need to get off the better starts, right? They seem to spot teams early leads. They did it to buffalo. They did it to Montreal. They come back and win the games, but they still need the kind of straightened some things out there as we get closer to the offs. Because if I'm Toronto I want to get that home ice. And with the fact that they're most likely if they stay where they are going to have to play Boston in the first round that's been an achilles heel for them for years. So with all the work that you're Onta was done weren't very active at the deadline. They picked up muslin a couple of weeks before the deadline. So it's not like they didn't do anything. But the Maple Leafs need to find their way and get get the ship righted there at home against an oiler students really struggling flames. The second back the backs we'll take on the devils. So the devils have played much better as of late but the flames trying to keep pace in that Pacific Division needs to win that game though, the nationally televised game tonight on NBC sports net will be the Rangers home for the lightning. Br debut of Brendan Lemieux for the New York Rangers is they've officially dealt all the guys that were healthy scratches. So not gonna make that much of a difference with the Rangers roster wise, except now they bring in Lemieux. So that can round out the twelve forwards and six defencemen, but they've already played without Hayes zuccarello ama- Quaid for the last couple of games anyway. So it doesn't matter and the lightning are board. Okay. The best way to describe the Tampa Bay Lightning. Now, they're just bored. I mean, they they're going to win their division going away. I mean, it's amazing to be sitting here on February twenty seventh talking about a hockey team. That's got a seventeen point lead in the division. Think about that seventeen point lead in the division. And they've got a thirteen point lead for the best team in the NHL race for the presidents trophy hundred points to Calgary's eighty seven and the last few games you've seen against the Los Angeles Kings against the Buffalo Sabres where they've had to win these games in the shootout that just seemed always play that lethargic game. But when it need when they need to win when they need to get the goal. They get it. So I just think they're kind of bored. But on national television gets the Rangers team that's been pesky. I mean, give the Rangers credit. They hang should be fun conducts in the avalanche huge game. They're Blackhawks in the ducks. That's a huge game for Chicago as they lost them. The game the other night to Dallas. So you look at the Western Conference, Chicago sit six points back of a playoff spot. Not for Dallas. So they desperately need the wind. Chicago's they're beginning to fade a bit with two back toback regulation losses getting back to Anaheim. They're they're done. I think at this point with fifty seven point there ten points out of a playoff spot. So I think that line of demarcation right now for me sits which ACOG the Edmonton Anaheim in. Los Angeles are done Vancouver. They still have a shot to do something for the playoffs for sure. Going to Colorado. So Vancouver right now five points back of Dallas for that. Final plow spot in Colorado one point back, but all the teams have sixty three games. Played a row wins at this point Dallas with thirty one Colorado with twenty-seven Vancouver with twenty four. So it looks like at this point this in the season when you're four back in the Rowen category like the avalanche. And when you're sitting seven back arro- wins like Vancouver. And you only got about twenty games left in the season for these team nineteen for for Vancouver and Colorado. You're going to have to beat Dallas outright. So when you look at the points, you're back Colorado's to back, but the radically the one back, but theoretically, they look at it. It's too because they're probably gonna have to beat Dallas outright in Vancouver. The same thing they're five points back. But really they gotta look at it at a six because ties not gonna go to either Vancouver Colorado at this point so Dallas in pretty decent shape with the thirty wrote one row Wednesday even have more Rowen's the Minnesota as they sit one point back of first place in the wildcard. Although I don't think it really makes much of a difference. Whether you have to play Calgary, San Jose Winnipeg Nashville, Saint Louis at all just seems like it's could be heavy lifting. So any of the wildcard teams, I or seconds not gonna matter going to have tough chores in that first round. All right. Let's hear from you at Donald Gregg hashtag game is conduct forever t h says to the Leafs act scared at the deadline. They should've went for Wayne Simmons and added depth for a playoff run seems like they held assets instead of going for the big move while similar to the islanders because I think the. Lifson? Ironically, Lewis involve -able organizations is I think they're looking long term more than short term. I think you have to think about that. When you look at the deadline like Colorado. They know they're losing Panara nebr- ski. So they wanna win. Now. They have to be in it for now. Where teams like Toronto, I think the islanders. They look at it is. Yeah, we wanna win. Yeah. We want to try to make a run, but not come at the expense of the future. We want to be able to sustain things here. I think the honors will get something done with Everley unle-. I think that you you will see market done in Toronto. So I think everybody will get their contracts in order so Toronto looks at their young team and says we're going to be good for a while here. I'm not going to start trading assets for us to win now. And plus really, honestly if you're Boston and Boston did Mesa moves going out and getting coil and Johanneson. But when you've got Tampa sitting there saying the west is different, right? West is wide open. You can find yourself in the Stanley Cup final. I think any of those teams that make the play. Offs. Hey can stick their chest out and say we can make Ron if we stay healthy. Puck bounces are way. Get some puck luck. We can do it. You tap is just so much better than everybody else. And if you're stuck like Toronto knowing that they're they're going to have to face Tampa in the second round. No matter how good you are was there a move that you could make that wouldn't put you in a better situation of beat Tampa in the second round. So tap is having the stork, and I'm not saying you gotta take a knee. But why hurt your chances next year and the year after for what probably is not going to be a run this year? Because it looks like Tampa is clearly the team to be now the metropolitan division look at the conference found out of Tampa until the third round. That's something. But those teams like Boston liked Toronto. Even if Montreal or sneak up and include themselves in the top three and the Atlantic Division all that buys. You is waiting till the second round to take on Tampa. It just it's a lot to give up future wise for. It would just be a two and done situation. Kelvin's red Hoti says one of the eight Wednesday NHL gonna come down on poor officiating. Start making refs accountable for the poor standards, especially the wraps in the Bruins sharks game chart cheap shot to the head of Cain was so bad generally over genuinely over the whole league. It's b it's been poor this season while again, they looked at it. No discipline. So you think it's a great many other people will say that it wasn't as vicious a hit certainly shark fans. I understand that you're passionate about it. I can't say that. I watched every second of the game to talk about the calls that you're getting into. But I've seen my fair share of bad calls. I watch as much hockey as anybody. It's a fast sport for sure they're gonna miss things you wish the league would be able to back some of their officials up and sometimes they make the officials look bad by giving discipline on plays. Were there wasn't a penalty that wasn't the case with charred deal. But I understand your frustration. Especially late in the year, especially when you're sharks fan battle in tooth and nail with the fl. Names for first place. But listen, I did NHL alive would EJ Radic in Jim Cerny and stole many years ago, both on radio and on television for Kasey was also one of my co hosts STAN Fischler did shows with him can danika and the complaining about the officials were are constant phone calls and emails during that show because you look at it through the colored glasses of your team every Coles agreed GIS, but you got to like back off just a little bit. I mean, I understand that. Some of these calls are bad. It's a fast game. You've got as many eyeballs as you can. But at the end of the day, it's really just a two officials. They're gonna make the calls. There's no bias against the Canadian teams. There's no bias against the US teams. There's no west coast buys these goes buys. I think they do the best job that they can they miss things. There's no question. They miss things. And it gets frustrating. I understand. But you gotta try to overcome it because I'm sure that a Boston fan will look at that game and say look at the calls. They miss their. Everybody's got their own agenda. The league doesn't have an agenda. So that kind of makes the difference. I know I'm sounding like Schill for the league. But I worked for the league. I don't work for the league anymore. And if I see a bad, call off say if I think the league makes a mistake, I will say it, and I will back you up there. But at the end of the day, it just gets too much with the complaining about the officials. It's not going to change to do the best job. They can you. Gotta learn to overcome it. And I'm a big believer. Even when you looked at the championship game between the saints and the Rams and the agreed is called the end of the game. You still have a most cases time to make up for you know, the saints still went over time. They still could have won that game. It's still upon you as the team to overcome the bad calls under overcome the calls that aren't made. And just be the better team. Put yourself in a situation. You have to hold yourself accountable for that four one loss against Boston. And I think in general shark fans, probably do, but I understand your frustration. But you just kinda get over it because it's never ever going to change. Sam says the way the Rangers roster's constructed right now, what would be your top two offense of lines and defensively. Also, which players do you think they'll target in the off season Panara and Duchenne crofton? They could be on on all those guys. They should be able to have some cap space for sure because you you're losing these unrestricted free agents in zuccarello and Hayes mcquaid and those guys you may resign them. Nobody's saying that you're not going to. But at the end of the day, you do get a large percentage of that. Cap space that you can take advantage of it. I think Panera is going to be a destiny. I'm not sure Carlson, the Rangers are kind of happy with their blue line and the young blue line. I'm not sure they would invest all in Carlson, but Pinero and Duchenne, you know, certainly, you're talking about Senator help you're talking about guys that can score because I'm not sure this ranger team is going to have an awful lot of scoring unless guys like he'll and Anderson really step it up. I think Kreider could be a forty goals score. But if you're looking for that real special player Panara and can be that guy. Duchenne can be that guy. Kreider has got twenty six goals. He's probably gonna finish if everything works outright. You know, thirty to thirty five goals you need more than that. And the same thing was abandoned at he's having a hell of a year. But he's a guy who's gonna finish with between thirty two and thirty five goals. If you want the forty plus guy, you're going to have to go after somebody, and I think free agency will be the way that it works out his way, the lines are going VC did a great job plan on the top line. The last couple of games. So look for its savannah jab between Kreider in VC likely will be the case. I love the way Strom as. Saying so the need him to be the second line center. Now, domestic often FOSS there. I think Anderson's gonna get a little bit more ice time. Look for him to play with Bush, navigate and Lemieux. And then your fourth line is probably again going to be the EVA's Berkeley and Smith because there are going to go with the eleven forwards and seven offense. But because he'll is going to be a healthy scratch. So he'll right now is in the Chateau bowel for the New York Rangers at this point. So, but eventually you're going to see he'll I'm hoping is going to be a guy that's going to get a chance to play higher than the fourth line. But right now he's struggling so he's going to be a healthy scratch against Tampa. So again, the Rangers are going to do what they did believe before the trading deadline and play in the the eleven forwards and seven defensemen. Jake says Bruins red hot right now. Getting awesome play from all lines. And the defense has been amazing with all the injuries. This team has battled and continues to battle. The think Cassidy deserves to be in the discussion for coach of the year. I do. Because the injuries have been pretty significant. You know, you play without char- you play without McEvoy posture. Knox been hurt now for a while. And you look like you don't have to play for the foreseeable future without him. And it seems like the team has gotten better. I think they're exceptionally. Well, coached I had them in my top three for the Jack Adams last year on have to think about it. Because obviously, Barry trots is going to get major consideration. I think Peter's in Calgary deserves major consideration. But I would not be surprised if Cassidy is again going to be a candidate Philip says what is Brendan Lemieux. We'll kind of play what value will he have with the New York Rangers. While the value is gonna have Philip is the fact that Rangers got pushed around a little bit against Washington. And he's got a physical chippy play that I think is gonna help. So that was a deal. I think that the Rangers made for the now because they're to want to kind of protect during a little physicality mcquaid. Ow brickley. Can do that Strom can do that. But with Cody McLeod getting traded away as well. They needed a little snarl. Their lineup. And I think Lemieux certainly brings that the anti rose says with my Vegas Golden Knights getting stoned, do you think this can jump start us heading into the playoffs and get our Mojo back keep up the great work. It'll be interesting to see because EJ brought this up does he fit in Vegas for what they want to bring to the table. He's not the fastest guy in the world. You know, you went out and got patch ready during the off season, not the fastest guy in the world. I think they overwhelm teams with their speed last year little slower now, although I think Pacha ready in stone or better finishers, which is gonna probably help the playoffs. When you say the mo-, Joe, I think the MO from last year was kinda based upon nobody really believed they had a chip on their shoulder. And now they've been a target. And I think that that's made them a little bit more vulnerable looking at the team this year. I think that's the specialness. That's changed. You're no longer an expansion team anymore. You're not surprising anybody, but they're still playoff team in a very wide open Western Conference. And when you got an elite goaltender like, Marc Andre Fleury, but of Carlson's going to be half of what he was from last year of Smith is gonna be half. What he was of March show is gonna be half of what he was. Can you really get that done will says islanders have dropped three or four time to panic? I wouldn't panic. You're still a first place team. Really Washington hasn't gone any kind of run. Pittsburgh hasn't gotten on any kind of run. Columbus just made all these trades and still lost five two to Pittsburgh. Are you gonna win the division? I think that was up for grabs when they had a five six point lead in the division. So do do I panic. No. But I will say you got a hell of a game coming up Thursday at home in the Coliseum against John verison, the tamp and the thrown a Maple Leafs. I got news for you. You can get into all the emotion and wanting to boot verison all that you gotta get two points. You gotta because this island's team. They gotta be careful here because you're right. They could drop out. I'm think they're gonna drop out of the playoffs. But I wouldn't say it's time to panic. But there should be a sense of. Urgency for sure, you know, you come off that western trip, and it wasn't bad. But it wasn't great either. All right. So you got the game against Toronto. And all the focus is going to be on that and to various and bow and him and all that. But then you're gonna have Washington it's a huge game on Friday. The second back to back you get at home. But if the second back tobaks, they get a little bit of an easier week two games against philli two games against Ottawa. And then it really sparks back up again with Columbus and Montreal. But this is the moment for the islanders right now. Okay. All these home games. So what is it? There were home last night against the flames coming back from the western swing. Right. Right. So one to are the are there already had the one that they played three four five six seven eight nine nine. So that's that's eight of the lex nine games counting the loss last night to the flames at home, so seven of the next eight games are going to be at the Coliseum. Then you're road games are at Detroit at Minnesota certainly win. Title, but you're going to be closing out March at home against Boston at Montreal at Philadelphia coyotes come in, but then act Columbus at Winnipeg doesn't get an easier. So you're gonna have to start getting your points for sure, but I wouldn't panic, and I certainly wouldn't blame them going through this little skid because they didn't make a move because I think Lewis looking more long term than short term AJ man says how do you think the metro division will fall out in the playoffs the Eastern Conference PS what is up with Tampa's icepick over three? That is a quarter of your losses. Yeah. I mean, Tampa they've got I was talking to RJ our producer of this podcast. I gotta lay off Tampa because they're bored. Okay. I think that the they've got a seventeen point lead in the division. I'm not saying they're resting guys. But their sense of urgency. Just isn't there they toyed with the kings. They toyed with a sabres winning those games, but certainly not covering the goal and a half or my ice picks. So they're going to step away from Tampa a little bit. Did when my game last night. I told you Washington would. For the goal and a half. I was a little worried when they were down tuneup in the verse buried but seven unanswered goals. Actually got me to twenty games above five hundred. I'm happy about that. But honestly, Tampa might be a team that you lay off of picking because I don't think they have really any sense that they've got to win these games. They're gonna win the presidents trophy. I don't think they care about records because they can beat the ninety six Leafs all the the ninety six wings all they want. But with the advent of three on three in the shootout, no records gonna really stick. Anyway, I was asked by somebody. You know, why aren't they trying to do a Golden State in the NBA years ago to break the bulls record for wins? Because again, even if they beat the sixty four win total. It's not gonna matter because how many of those games came in a shootout, which is something Redwings didn't have back ninety six. So I don't think that's gonna work. Chris says, hey, Don, who's better off with the moves by here Dory in the senators for the long term with the prospects? And the pigs or the avalanche has the Ottawa picks will most likely be worse than fourth and a good question. I think it was in good shape. I mean, they've got the ownership situation with while they're gonna move to downtown. I mean, they got that whole deal which is which is awkward, but I think they did the right things players. They weren't going to be able to bring back and you're right because those picks are going to be the avalanche. I don't think we're winning a Cup. The avalanche are still in great shape because they went out and got players that I think are going to help them make the playoffs. But I still think at the end of the day, regardless of where these where these picks are going to be I think Ottawa stockpiled enough for you to get pretty excited about their future. And we'll see if they can do all the right things. All right, guys. Thanks so much for today. A lot to go over tomorrow. We're going to preview the game at the Coliseum between the leaves and the islanders Gionta Veras returns to his old stomping grounds, that'd be pretty emotional. But after losing three of your last four, the Allender should be thinking about two points more than doing John Taveras overly the players completely understand that want to get in touch with me at Donald Gregg hashtag game is conduct is the best way to do that. We'll. Talk again tomorrow. This was the Wednesday edition of games conduct for listening to that game misconduct podcast. Looking for more dumb? Like record hear him on the Michael Keijo weekdays from three to seven PM on ninety eight point seven ESPN in New York and worldwide on the ESPN app. I don't forget to subscribe to the game misconduct podcast on the ESPN app. Google play music apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Replay Confusion & Fan Confessions
"The. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don league-record and welcome to the Thursday. They can game his conduct. I am Don league-record lots to go over interesting game in Toronto between the Leafs and the capitals is the caps lose again. Six to three Ovechkin does get his thirty seventh goal of the year. But they start Hopi. Again, doesn't work out. Toronto ends their brief slide at home. They had been winless in their last three games there. But they score six. So the capitals are just in a Malays right now. And I'm not really sure where you want to pinpoint. This is that the goaltending is the coaching a lot of people in Washington seem to think it's rare it, and it's an easy thing to say because he's the new head coach Barry leaves you replaced. The coach the team doesn't seem to be living up to expectations. They're in a little danger. Here we talked about it yesterday of falling out of the playoff race right now. They're still in second place with sixty points fifty games played so Columbus's, right right there. A point back for second place with two games in hand if they're able to drop out of that. And you're talking about the wildcard we'll Pittsburgh's got fifty eight points with two games in hand. So they take care of business with their games in an wash default fall to the wildcard in buffalo sits there right now. Four points back of Washington with two games at hand. So the capital's don't turn things around. There's going to be some problems. There Wilson is back. There's not a lot of excuses Ovechkin. It a heck of a year with thirty seven goals. It just seems like that post Cup Malays that sometimes teams are in. I remember with the devils won the Cup in ninety five that a similar season to Washington in ninety five ninety six where they just never seemed to gain any traction. Now, I think Washington's better than those devil teams back then. So I think wash. Washington will find a way to get into the place. We're still talking about the team got a plus nine goal differential. But they just don't seem to be right. They've got thirty two games to get it. Right. But this conference can be a little bit unforgiving. So let's see if Pittsburgh and take advantage of this of Columbus can take advantage of it. More importantly, the teams are on the outside looking in like, buffalo and Carolina. Can they take advantage of it? Carolina with a win last night in Vancouver. They're just six points back of Washington. However, they've played the same outta game. So we'll see how it works out. So let's keep an eye on Washington. I do think they'll be okay at the end of the day. But still they just have not seemed to be able to gain really any traction after that run last year Canadians, hold on for a two on one of the counties. I gotta say this coyotes team is spunky. They're getting good goaltending. I think their defense is underrated. Now, they're going to be searching for goals for sure. Keller's the one all-star Representative Stefan's been pretty good for them. You offense out of Allah Redican Larsen at the blue line. And I think. That they're a team that you can get offense from different places. But I don't think you get a consistent enough Garland's been good lately. But he's still only has nine goals. You know, cousins wheel the, you know, the former Philadelphia Flyers. They've got some nice players. They just don't have any studs Keller is going to become a stud. I think but right now, a give talk at a lot of credit there. He's got that team engaged implying. Well, they're all over Montreal late in that game to try to get the equaliser. They thought they had the game tying goal, but it ended up being an offside. And I gotta say this to I don't know if other people wouldn't thinking about this the in arena video and the local broadcasts have to figure something out. I think the league almost has got to get involved in this. I had a similar situation rows calling a game that the Rangers were involved. And I forget what it was. It was it was over the last couple of weeks where there was a goal and the opposition challenge to see if there was an awesome. Side, the people at MSG guest where the offside was and it ended up being play where it was the Bana Jad that they thought was off side it was actually zuccarello. So they show it on the Jumbotron of savannah Jad. He's not offside the officials who were looking at zuccarello. Nobody in the building new. They're looking at Carello, they say the players offside the fans are apoplectic because they think they blew the call. But no it turned out that they were looking at the wrong thing. Same thing happened last night in the Arizona broadcast where they thought they had figured out where the offside was it wasn't an offside. All right. Matt McConnell does a great job with their play by play goes nuts. And rightly so when they say that the play was off side, but it turned out they had the wrong video. I think it was ecm men Larson who's drawing the puck back in the puck left. His own clearly off side. The officials got it. Right. It's just they had the wrong video because there's just a lack of communication. Offside could be at any time. You think going back a minute. So I'm not faulting the local broadcast because they will do a great job in the in game of video as well. Because everybody's really under a lot of tension to get it. Right. But I think he kind of hold off until you know, exactly where the offside is in question the league needs to communicate with the building. And with the local broadcast specifically say where the offside is. So they can show it or just don't show it at all because you're misleading people you're preventing people for no reason. And that's what happened there. They take the game tying goal off. It would have been gold chernyak against his old team would have been a great story coyotes continued with the pressure, but they just couldn't get the equaliser. So as a nice effort their game about five hundred which is great a Montreal very quietly is establishing itself as a playoff team a nice win for the wild as well as they take care of business over Colorado by the final score of five to two. I don't know where we stand right now with the avalanche. They're closing in on five hundred twenty two. Twenty eight they are very top heavy. They're not getting production from anybody outside of their top line and a consistent enough basis. Right now, they're clinging to that final wildcard spot. But it's only a battery time before they lose it. They've lost seven of their last ten tuna row. Vancouver loss last night over otherwise, they could have overtaken Colorado. Now, the break the Colorado gets is they played fifty games Vancouver is tied but played one more game. Anaheim who's been in free falls appoint back, but they played one more game. Arizona's two points back with the exact amount of games. Played in a team that we need to pay attention to one last night again over the ducks Saint Louis six three and one in their last ten now five hundred on the road Saint Louis right now is three points out. Oh plow spot with a game in hand. And Edmonton made the change with Peter Shirley there three points back with the same out of games played. So point is is that teams are starting to close in here on Colorado. They've got to get their ship righted. And I got a tweet. A friend. Chris who's the flyer fence is hey down which team is more desperate to make a move Colorado. Washington both struggling mightily right now, I think its Colorado because Washington I think has the pieces they just gotta wake up and the goaltending has to be better all won a Stanley Cup. So you know, he can be better. He tied the record for wins in a in a regular season. You know, he can be better. But Colorado, they need to make a trade. They need to find a forward. I think Kevin Hayes to be a great fit there in Colorado a center he can establish the second line for them. He can play wing if you want them to he can play on the top line. If you needed him to Colorado. I think is a team that desperately needs to make a move and soon because I think they've got some talent there to make a run. They just don't have. I think the depth necessary to get it on. So we'll see when I say they've got the town. They've got the star power for sure, you know, Landis Gog, obviously having a phenomenal year McLean. Mckinnon who we've talked about phenomenal year as well. Ranson such an underrated player, but a lot of that town's going be wasted. Unless they can get some guys. Can you know kind of change the dynamic of that team? Just a bit. Nice win for the predators on the road over the Vegas. Golden Knights Soros is the best backup goaltender in the National Hockey League makes forty seven saves which is a career high. So we can analyze what's wrong with Vegas. They've lost. A couple of games at home you through forty through forty eight shots at the goal tender backup, and then the lesson and you still can't get it. Max patch ready scored the first goal midway through the first period. But it was Ryan Johannesson's ninth. Nick Benita who's really nice player when we talk about being well, rounded and depth Nicodemo is that kinda guy fourteen goals on the season. And they held on a flourish in the third period for for Vegas to try to get the equalizer couldn't do it. So it's a nice win for Nashville. But when you talk about wins and losses really Vegas to anything wrong. Like you said you throw forty eight shots at a backup. Goaltender you expect a win. But SARS has no backup goaltender. He's a backup in Nashville. But I think he would play for you take a look at some of the teams in the. League. He's he's by far the best backup goaltender in Prague. Abused starting goaltender for half. The teams in the league mentioned the blues. The nice five one win over Anaheim. Anaheim did have that two game winning streak after the twelve straight losses. But now, they're you know, they continue a bit of a free fall here. Seven straight losses at home, which is just inexcusable they're lucky they're in the Western Conference that way they can stay alive Tarasenko with the seventeenth of the year. Otherwise Sundquist gets his tenth Bosak his seventh. So a nice win for the Saint Louis blues who are still trying to find their way and still very much alive. In the plow race. We mentioned the hurricanes win over the Canucks by the final score of five to need Orion gets goal for Carolina. And then they just went nuts after being down to one off of the spend virtually goal is eighth of the year. Mckay gets his third. Nita rider gets a second. It's thirteenth of the year. Hamilton, eighth Teravainene his eleventh, so Carolina. I. I did draw the line of demarcation you remember of teams alive of the Eastern Conference at Carolina and they're starting to prove me right here. I think they might be able to to keep things alive. Here are let's hear from you at download Graca hashtag game has conduct forever. T eight says if the Oilers can't get it together the next few seasons could they do the unthinkable and trade mcdavid. I think that'd be a huge mistake. I mean conic David has to be the centerpiece of everything that they do. Now, you'd get a big haul back form that Herschel Walker cowboy Viking type deal that we saw twenty years ago in the NFL. But listen, he's the face of the franchise. They love him up there. And I think you gotta find a way to be able to rebuild that organization by keeping him in to J P fifty five says special teams of the outer s- have been poor this year twenty four th on the power play and twenty-second on the penalty kill assuming they do not make a marquee trade who are some of the middle tier players available that can help them with special teams while I know Scott Gomez is beginning a lot of heat because of the special teams. I think they're going to have to try to figure this out on their own youth. Look at some of the players to be available again. Do you look at the Western Conference mean will they be in play for Panara n- would Lou make that kinda move? He's made it before. Okay. We talked about with EJ before he has made those types splashes, he's not afraid of a rental of he believes that that's going to be a player to get them over the top. And you take a look at this Eastern Conference if they can win the metropolitan division, which is very much in play. You don't have to worry about Tampa till the conference final. And you tell me the islanders with sneezing an opportunity to go to the conference final for the first time since nineteen Ninety-three. So yeah, Panara n- is not a mid level guy that you're talking about. But can they make a deal for him? Otherwise, you know, what is Ottawa have would they part with a Duchenne with the devils? Make a deal with they part with Paul Mary. Philadelphia would would would they trade in the vision? Would you get away in Simmons from Philadelphia when you look at Los Angeles is there somebody in Los Angeles. You'd like to have somebody on Kogyo the like that. Although I think Chicago will try to keep things intact there because I think they can turn it around for next year. But these are the players the you're talking about, but loo I don't rule out, and you know, a high end type of player, Donna Weaver says, hey, Don love your show. My question is for you out of the three teams in the tristate area. Rangers islanders in devils which out of the three win a Stanley Cup a few years. Well, clearly, I think it's the islanders. I mean, they got a lot of good young players. I think they'll get Lee signed up, even if they lose Everley you've got a guy in Lula Morello. That's one cups before you've got buried trots who's won a Stanley Cup. It has been a perennial winner. Whether it be in Nashville or Washington, I think the deploys they do. I mean, they're not a fluke. I mean, you're fifty games a season their first place by three points. I mean, it's not a fluke. Now, I don't know if they're gonna be able to hold onto that. Because I do think pig Pittsburgh in Washington will be better. I think Columbus is starting to look like a contender. But I think it's the islanders. I I like with the devils of done. Well, let's see what happens with the Rangers in this rebuild. But if you tell me who's a step ahead of everybody else to me at the islanders Calvin says. Hey, Don, I know sharks have won over the caps. But do you think they trade a Dell and a jobs to get Bobrovsky and use one of their AHL goalies who are going well as a backup? Also, can you see IRA Carlson residing with the sharks? I can. I think he wants to test free agency. From what I understand he likes it there. I think the sharks will be a contender. So would he leave a team that could be on the cusp of winning Stanley Cup? I like Martin Jones a lot. I mean, he did take a team to game six of the Stanley Cup final. I think you can win with him. So Bobrovsky is never made any kind of run in the postseason. So I'm not sure you'd wanna trade for Brodsky who is a rental, by the way. Anyway. So I'm not sure you would do that as much as you'd like to upgrade your goal tending. I'm not sure you'd want to take that kind of a chance Ricky says, hey, Dan since you have a career as a Rangers announcer. Do you still root for the devils? Are they your favorite team still or since you are working in the sport? You have a different take on teams. Thank you. And also does EJ still root for the islanders. Well, the answer to that is no he does not do I still root for the doubles. No. I want them to do. Well, because I work in New York and hockey's the fourth sports. So if all three teams can be good. There's a better chance to we're going to talk about it. But when you dive into this business the way that I have the phantom has to be put aside. I mean, I'm calling games for the Rangers. And we're that. Okay. Capsulated for me was in two thousand twelve when they were playing in the conference final and I'm covering the Rangers. And you know, my heart obviously, grew up a devil fan. But if the devils win which they did. All right. I'm I'm a spectator for the Stanley Cup. Final of the of the Rangers had won. I'm working the Stanley Cup final. I'm getting paid. I'm rob around the sport that I love a little longer. So that's what ends up happening. You end up rooting for you. I know that sounds conceded. But it's true. You end up rooting for you, and I'm working for the Rangers. And now, it'd be the same thing of all of a sudden, I started working for the islanders. That would be my focus and EJ. I think deep down in his heart still has feelings for the islanders. But that's gonna go away when you cover the sport the way the way that we do ship says yesterday Jerry Recco who works over at WFAN mentioned that you had a Stanley Cup ice sculpture at your wedding based Don on. On the pick that I attach he's wearing a Chicago Blackhawks jersey in his wedding picture. I'm sure my wife would have been down with that had. I thought of it. I'd love to see a pick of the ice. You know, what I'll take a look and see if I can find it. We had my wife was a NASCAR a passionate NASCAR fan of time. So we actually had a NASCAR we had the Stanley Cup. And we had a a lighthouse because we were vacationing along Jilen all the time in New Jersey. So those are the three ice sculptures that we got that was nice to Jerry brought that up because Jerry Recco was at my wedding and looking at your picture ship by you, putting a Blackhawks jersey on tells me your big ranger fan. So too bad. You didn't think of it? Hopefully, there's going to be a second marriage for you got rid of there is one that maybe you can go the ice sculpture James says, hey, Don with the rumors of that Sukh wanting to return to the NHL and him becoming an unrestricted free agent after July. I do you think the Rangers would make a convincing offer for another Russian talent. In its way over. No, he's going to be forty or he's forty already. I think the Rangers would do it. If they felt like they were close. So I don't think they'd be interested. I maybe goes back to Detroit just to be able to finish his career there. Still very good player possesses, the pox. They'll one of the best dangling of ever saw in my life, but at forty removed now few years from playing on the NHL level. I don't think a ranger team and a rebuild would would be interested. Michael says the penguins have won eleven of their last fifteen and have been mostly missing horn Quist while doing it. How is that struggling while they struggled on the western trip? All right. Clearly, they I don't wanna say they got exposed. But they struggled in the win and overtime over Arizona herreid. They got the they got wiped out by Vegas. They lost to the Los Angeles Kings. So many struggling in the eye of the beholder, Michael it's a team that shouldn't that should be better than a wildcard team at this point. I mean, you can look at the broad stroke of it winning Levin of their last. Fifteen but I didn't like that western swing at all. I didn't. I mean, they don't have any business losing seven three to Pittsburgh that certainly no business losing to the kings. And if you go back to the duck game early in the trip the way the ducks have struggled, you know, they fell behind three nothing in that game in the fight back and win. I mean, they play anybody else. They probably lose that game. So I'm sorry that you took offense to that. But I still don't think they're playing at the at their maximum. Daniel says, hey, Don listening to the pod. And I thought of my three my top three games attended. Okay. Well, number one, he says Br doors last wind shutout with the blues. Okay. That's cool Panthers blues game with the odd. No goal off the red reps crotch that was an interesting one Chicago wolves Calder Cup. One a win in the two thousand eighteen game six that's a pretty good list. That's very good. I think that's an awesome list of an and and more in recent too. So I don't know how old you are Daniel, but all those three have happened in the last ten years and a couple of happened in the last five and one of them happened. This. Year. But that's actually a pretty cool list. Send it send your list if you want if you have a list of your top three games to ever attended. You can fire them off to me. We'll talk about it tomorrow that could be good at Donald brecca hashtag game has conduct right tomorrow is the skills competition in San Jose. And then Saturday it will be the actual all star game itself. Zoll kind of dive into that and talk about it a little bit your thoughts and dreams on that you can kind of respond to me. And I also I got to give the top five of the week. Didn't get a chance to do it last week because of the injury of the because not the injury, but the illness and all the things that were going on with me. I couldn't have a podcast on Friday. We will have on the Morrow. We'll have our top five for the week. And I have a feeling this going to be a lot of different names in that top five, including the New York. Islanders for the first time this year, and we'll kind of go over the all star game. Get you set up for the second half of the season coming up on Monday when we get back to work. So at download Graca hashtag game has conduct. Thanks for listening. This was the Thursday edition of game has gone Gonda. Listening to the game misconduct podcast. Looking for more dumb? Greco? Hear him on the Michael can show weekdays from three to seven PM on ninety eight point seven ESPN in New York and worldwide on the ESPN app. I don't forget to subscribe to the game misconduct podcast on the ESPN app. Google play music apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Friday Top Five & Pierre McGuire update
"The lease. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don league-record and welcome to the Friday edition of game has conduct. I down like record. I'm coming to you live from the Meadowlands the fan sports book or could be doing the Michael cassio. And we were doing the podcast from here as well. So flee everybody is going to have a great weekend. And let's get you started with a podcast kind of a continuation from yesterday after I had finished, my podcast and give my opinion on Pierre. Mcguire. NBC reached out to me via Email to say that Pierre McGuire had responded, and unfortunately, the podcast was already up. So I wanted to take this time here to at least give Pierre McGuire statement and his apology for what had happened back on Wednesday during the lightning penguins game that we discussed on the podcast yesterday. And I defended Pierre at the same time criticized him for the words that he used and here's the statement from Kierra I've known KENDALL for years and have had the privilege of covering her. As a member of team USA of patch. Two Winter Olympic. We were all thrilled to have her. Join our coverage last night. But at times my excitement got the better of me. And I should have chosen my words better. I've the utmost respect for KENDALL as a world class player analyst of the game and role models. So clearly I figured that's exactly what he would do. And that was the right thing to do. All right. He's a good guy. He just misspoke. And I think he did the right thing by having the apology. And there was a long statement made by KENDALL Coyne Scofield and give the gist of it. She had no problem with it. Because she's known Pierre for a long time, and she completely got it. So as far as everybody being offended demanding a firing demanding this that and the other thing I felt both parties handled it well because here too here's how I feel about offense. The person that needed to be offended the most or should have been offended. The most was KENDALL. And she didn't have a problem with it. But you also understood that he misspoke. I thought it was important that you put that understatement statement as well. Because of the fact, you know, what I? I should just read it for you. Anyway, and you you can make your own determination from here. And but I'll give you kind of the gist here. As far as PR is concerned, I've known Pierre McGuire for years, I know respects me as a hockey player a woman, and a friend, and that is why I didn't think twice about our on air exchange when it happened. I didn't give it a second thought until after the game when I received countless messages, I went back and looked at the video I understand why people would think it was inappropriate. If you were watching it at home and saw a man say, this to a woman athlete would have been offended. But what I also know is how excited here was to me. And to be a part of the moment while I wish it came out differently. I know PR doesn't question my hockey knowledge. But to be honest, that's not what's important. So I both of them handle it very well. And I guess we can all just put it aside here. I think it's important in this society to have the radar up when things like that happen, but also be forgiving as well and trying to be a little bit understanding that sometimes when things come across the way that they do you have to count on. Misspeaking or giving a second chance, and I also think a person's reputation should also come into account as well. And I think PR's reputation has been pristine as far as his treatment of women his respect women from what I can understand and certainly their relationship shown through the controversy. So now, I think we can all move on. And I also understand the Pierre's very hateful. There's a lot of people that do not like beer McGuire because just like a lot of other analysts in a lot of other sports. They think that he is against your team or he favors Sidney Crosby Alexander Ovechkin whatever listen it, happens everywhere and people shouldn't get too overly excited about it. But I do think some of the complaining did come from a place of people not really appreciating Pierre's brawl or just not liking PR in the first place. But there is fair. And I thought it was handled while on both sides. And now we can move on three games from last night. Rangers beat the devils four to three an unbelievable stat came from this game. Mikus advantage ads. Got a four point nine records a hat trick. He has just been on fire for the Rangers who won four there. Five that is the first hat-trick arranger players had in New Jersey since game six of the Eastern Conference final in nineteen ninety four when Messier made the guarantee and scored the hat trick and hit the empty netter to put a game seven on the Eastern Conference final. Just unbelievable that on the twenty fifth anniversary of the Rangers last Cup that meek is a bandage ad was able to do that. But a spirited game. Certainly not the greatest of goaltending on either side. But when the saves need to be made Hank made them, and when the goals needed to be scored the Rangers scored them, and now they won four of their last five still I think making the playoffs to be very heavy lifting, but they wanna see this team play while and they certainly did last night. Philadelphia's now one six in a row and ice come from behind victory over Boston by the final score of three to Boston had the two to one leap Pasternak a couple of goals, including his thirtieth of the year, and including his fifteenth on the power play which relieves the nationally National Hockey League Lindblom scores midway through the third Tien San Heim on the power play gets the game winning goal in overtime Philadelphia. Wins their six in a row Boston does earn a point to grass came back into the lineup after suffering a concussion on the last game before the break for Boston. And a tough loss for Columbus. Is they fall in Winnipeg to the jets four to three Shifu gave Winnipeg the wants nothing lead. But then Panara and Anderson came back. It was two one at the end of one Appleton tied at two but Bjork strand late in the second period made it three two going into the third period. But Roz Lewitt gets the game tire midway through the third and then Connor has just been hot as a pistol. As twenty second goal of the year that came late with one fourteen left on the clock and regulation to give Winnipeg the whim are let's look at a busy schedule tonight. Finally, got some games to sink our teeth into islanders come back from there by protecting three point lead, the division is they welcome in the Tampa Bay Lightning. Best team in the National Hockey League becoming off a disappointing effort in Pittsburgh, four to two. This will be the first back to back so the lightning. They'll be New Yorker to take on the Rangers Madison Square Garden tomorrow, Blackhawks and sabers. Listen to the game. The sabres have to get you have to beat the teams that are behind you in the standings. If you wanna make up the ground. Buffalo will have a chance to do that tonight predators or at Florida. Take on the Panthers penguins. Home for the senators real good game capitals and the flames from Washington flames. The best team in the Western Conference capitals battling for first place in the metropolitan division. But the capitals are gonna play without Alexander Ovechkin because of the suspension not going to the all star game. So they're going to be like their best player against one of the best teams of the gel Maple Leafs on the road, which is actually good news for them against the Detroit. Red Wings in Detroit. Jake Muslim makes his debut with the leaves at seven thirty tonight. The hurricane still a chance to make the playoffs, but some heavy lifting tonight with Golden Knights coming in, and then the wild will be at the Dallas Stars the stars trying to hold on to a wildcard spot while it's Friday Friday means it's the top five of the week on the Greg's Friday top five. Let's welcome in the Montreal Canadians to the top five why not right? They won six of their last ten carry prices playing out of his mind and the and the Montreal Canadians have gone that all important three spot in the Atlantic Division. So for the first time this year, probably for the first time in a couple of years. We welcome in the Montreal Canadians into the top five number four. I'm gonna go with those San Jose Sharks. They've won seven of their last ten th the slew of the wall coming off the all star game and looks like San Jose's. I think them obviously, the Golden Knights the best chance to catch the Calgary Flames in the Pacific Division, but the sharks are starting to find themselves a little bit now and Carlson's gonna have a big second after the season. I think San Jose still has a shot here in the west obviously Calgary is the best team in the Western Conference right now. But you don't assess the best teams in February you assess them when you get to April, and obviously beyond but I think San Jose's gonna be in the conversation. I got them at number four number three. I've got those New York Islanders. They should be at three. Now, they didn't do anything to fall out because they haven't played all week, but they got a chance to protect the division. Nice test tonight against the Tampa Bay Lightning. And of course, Lula MURILLO talking about how he's going to be aggressive, obviously down the line. They've got a chance to get healthier here is they're trying to get some people back into the lineup lay. Andrew lads, very close to come back. So I like this New York Islanders team Alon if they win this division. Boy, I think they could be a team to beat in the Eastern Conference outside of Tampa. I've got the Allender at number three number two. Also prove it otherwise, I love those Calgary Flames. Of course, they haven't played in a while either. But three straight wins eight one and one in their last ten plus forty five goal differential. Very good at home. I'm saying the same things over and over again. But that's how good Calgary has been. I understand their goaltending is always gonna come into flux always gonna come into question. But you know, what it's not going to be anything. They're going to have to answer until they get into the playoffs. So far, so good. I still think Smith is going to take that job. It'd be can stay healthy. He is a legitimate goaltender in the National Hockey League. So I still like Calgary number two number one. I know the last couple of games have been great they spotted the islanders of three goal lead a couple of weeks ago spotted Pittsburgh, a four-goal lead the other night. But this is still a great team that I'm looking forward to see live for the first time tomorrow, I'm gonna be calling that game Madison Square Garden, it's going to be on NBC. It's going to be on national television lightning in the Rangers. And of course, what more can you say points. Having a great year getting a chance to play on the top line kucherov. His great stamkos. I mean, you look at their lines. It's just unbelievably good how they are. I mean think think of these lines right now you've got point between Johnson and kucherov has the number one line. Stamkos is the number two line. He's been link between Polat Gord then you've got JT Miller who's on the third line with news of very good player. And also has got a nose for the late in the game and your fourth line. You've got Ryan Callahan. Who's done a lot in this National Hockey League mean how much more well rounded, can you be headman Girardi is the top pairing? He got mcdon- on the second pairing. Stroman is back and healthy. He's on the third pairing with surrogate Chev, really, where's the weakness? Vasilevskiy coming off an all star appearance. Tampa Bay Lightning. Are stocked? And I'm looking forward to seeing this team. And if they can make a run remember this. I've said this many times about Tampa. And I think it's fair to continue to bring it up. This is no fluke. I mean, there's a team that went to the conference final last year. They went to the Stanley Cup final back in two thousand fifteen so they kind of been there and done that if you think about it. So I think that they're a dangerous team for sure I don't think they're any kind of fluke. Once you get into the playoffs things obviously can change, and you got to be a little leery sometimes because the best teams don't always win the Stanley Cup, especially the presidents trophy winners. But this is no fluke. This is a team with a ton of experience. Are let's hear from you at Donald Graca. Hashtag game is conduct. We start with Christopher says. Hi, Don on pod yesterday. You mentioned cutting the puck and half. When both goalies had a shutout. Why not give each a full puck? There. Always a few leftover at the end of the game. Thanks for all that you do for us hockey fans. Let's go as well. I don't know about the superstition. But I guess it's. The last puck that was employees. I guess Hasha and Brodeur both believed in them. I think that's why they ended up cutting in half Haywood says with KP being moved to the Rangers move Hank who isn't a malcontent, but can give him a ring for a Stanley Cup. I think it's two completely different sports. Anybody that doesn't follow the NBA? Maybe didn't notice that Kristaps Porzingis was traded away to the Dallas Mavericks for cap space. And what the tweeter in Haywood is suggesting is why can't the Rangers do the same with Henrik long Lundqvist different completely different scenario. Henrik Lundqvist is a forever player for the Rangers. Porzingas was not for zinc did not want to be a Nick and Rick wants to finish his career is Nick. And and you wouldn't get the cap space. It's a different sport. It's a different feel. So there is really it's apples to oranges. So it's very difficult to compare Phillips says make is a bandage at is almost on pace for point per game this season forty eight points in fifty games is he the first center the Rangers been seeking in years or close. It could he be the first line center that could bring home a Cup P as Zouk rules to zoo probably gonna get traded Zana's advantage. Ed could now he's been streaky. But I will say this about savannah gen when healthy he's been terrific. The problem is that sometimes he suffered these catastrophic injuries and miss time. But maybe could be certainly seems like whoever he plays with its magic. And right now with zuccarello and Kreider. It's one of the best lines in the National Hockey League for sure now they've fiddled around domestic off plan on that line for a couple of games Quin likes to mix and match. But when those three get together, it is unbelievable. Samsung says McGuire publicly statement was weak. He didn't apologize to Kendal. I was tweeting with someone who thought that an apology would make it more. Awkward more awkward than the exchanges again Sam, you know, I mentioned apology before I guess, you could technically say he did not apologize. But I had no problem with the statement KENDALL had no problem with I think we just have to let it go. Ricky says, hey, Don who would have thought that the islanders and lightning would be in first place teams in the east of the halfway point. Both teams play tonight. I don't see Panara and coming via trade Columbus won't trade in their division. Maybe to Shane here thoughts. Thanks. I mean Duchenne is a possibility but don't rule out. Columbus trading within the vision, if they believe they fall out of it. Now, I do not believe they're going to trade him unless they fall out of it. So it's kind of a moot point. Right. They fall out of it won't matter. If they trade them in the division because they believe they're not making the playoffs. If they stay in it. They're going to keep them do Shane's a good possibility as well. I would rather have pan-arab and Aaron will probably cost you a little bit more. But here's the thing. I don't think Columbus is gonna fall out of it. Anyway. So I don't think he will get traded. Dave says big fan of the show love your insight into the Pierre McGuire situation yesterday just wondering if you had any perspective on the career of Marty Turco looking at his early two thousand stats they were amazing then dropped post lockout thoughts. Well. Yeah. That's it. I mean, Marty Turco was a great goaltender for a very brief period of time. And he wasn't able to sustain it post lockout. But there were times I had him among the best goaltenders league. Great personality. Great for the sport. But sustainability certainly wasn't there compared to his peers compared to the the lung quiz in the bro doors and the like where his numbers could be very comparable even Curtis Joseph or an Eddie bell for. We just had a little bit more consistency in their careers. Dan, says some good news Columbus Tampa coming out real flat with losses in their first game back. Islanders back tonight against Tampa coming off a bad loss after their break will be a huge advantage for aisles if they can come out strong while team that they're chasing them struggle. Yeah. But they could also struggle to having not played for a while. And I have a feeling that Tampa is going to snap out of what the the Malays there in against Pittsburgh. But as far as what I found if you look at just the recent history, I thought the Rangers were a distinct disadvantage early in their game against Philadelphia back on Tuesday because Philadelphia played the day before both are coming off of the long break. But Philadelphia playing the night before seemed to give them an advantage in the first period that got the early lead may held on. So I think the islanders will be sluggish in the first period, if they can survive it, they'll get their legs in the hang. But I think Tampa will be at an advantage. Because of the fact that they played not a disadvantage because they lost forever h says the. Don't make a deep run this season. When will the pressure turn to Babcock? He's only made it out of the first round once since twenty ten while you made a change at general manager, or at least the guy that was making the decisions there. What Lou being gone? It would have to be on the table night thing. Mike that cock is one of the best coaches in the league he's won a Stanley Cup. He's won a gold medal. He took the ducks to a Stanley Cup final. When nobody thought that team was any good. So I think sometimes you make changes just for change's sake. It's tough. It'll see how they go out. Let's see how they play out the rest of the season if they're one in done again that's going to be a disappointment. And the thing that would scare me about Toronto is right now they'd match up with Boston in Boston has had their number. So I think that could be a bit of a problem. Tom says done how about a top five names that you had the most trouble during a game. I'll throw some suggestions out Yuki Horo authentic. See you Goss, despair pool, the RV Shepiyev also the hands down winner of saying his whole name is John Scott, very good point, John. You can't just say sky. You gotta say, John, Scott. I'd have to think about Tom you sent the tweet out a while ago. I should read it beforehand names that I really struggled with. Yeah. Gaza spare when he first came up, but that now flows. It's interesting when I first came into this business, and I started working at sports phone. I struggled with. Who is the tennis player? I got to think about it now because I'm kind of fetching out. There was a struggle with. And I had to say it over and over and over again, it wasn't crank Cuba craps off. That was one the kind of flowed out. And you just keep practicing and practicing it, but it's different when you're going to make an announcement. Or you're gonna say name during a talk show. But the problem with doing the play by play is is that it's got to come out quick. And you don't really have a lot of time to kind of sound it out before and to prepare yourself whenever he gets the puck yet to be ready to say it spit it out and then move on. I remember Tenessee you when he first came into the league, it was like, how am I going to say that? And I just over and over and over again until it became a habit. I'd have to think about some of them there were there were real difficult ones. Members of Anna Javadi, I came until with auto. It sounds silly now because he's a ranger and it's easy to say. But those were names domestic off was one when he was with Tampa. Okay. I gotta go over that name a million times domestic off Nevada cough again it flows now because he's a ranger by the time. It was like God, how do you pronounce the name? So there's a few at I have to think about some more of them. But those are the ones I remember going over. But you can Haru is is a tough one for sure it's like how am I going to say that name? It's such a difficult name that. Oh, who was the other one that was on the Ottawa Senators, I was a barrack off sqi because it no way in any way, shape or form sounds the way that it's spelled STAN nets cash was another one where you'd have to. Listen, I go to YouTube before games and listen tout announcers pronounce it. And then I kind of get a feel for it. That's the way I kinda prepare, and if I didn't have YouTube back in the day, and I didn't take a look at how stand nets cash spelled his name. How do you come up with nets gash in? He was an Ottawa Senator he actually played a little bit for the Rangers on that mistaken towards the end of his career. So so those are some of the names that were difficult to say, but I was able to fight through it. And finally, Chris, hey, Don, let's have a little Friday fun from now until February eleventh flyers home games against the Oilers Canucks kings, ducks and penguins. Therefore what happens? I flyer is loss or Harper. Machado bak- decision. Have a great weekend. We'll look at that. Hey, listen, Philadelphia's one six zero and Chris, you know, this being a flyer span even years, they don't make the plows. They just seem to always go on these wrongs where they get these ridiculous winning streaks Atta ten game winning streak was it last year the year before and it doesn't necessarily mean that they're grace right now the writing the six game winning streak, but you know, the Oilers can be dangerous that Canucks. Hey, the king just recently beat the Pittsburgh Penguins. But when I look at that, obviously, the penguins would probably be the heavier lifting team to have to face. But it'd be nice team gets ten eleven game winning streak find their way back into the metropolitan division race. I think that would be a tremendous opportunity for the Philadelphia Flyers to make some hay here late in the season. This is a lot of fun. Thanks to our J. Santillo is ready willing. Enabled the record this for me here. The the fact that I'm at the sports book, and I'm not here at the station, and we were able to fire off the top five and thanks very much for NBC to calling my attention. The statement from Pierre McGuire cerebal to get that onto the podcast as well. So Joe your weekend lot of hockey. We're back into the swing full slate a games over the weekend. So everybody will be back from their buys, and we can get ready for a stretch run here as we get deeper into February back with you again on Monday. 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