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The Abominable Snowman
"The story you're about to hear is not a direct retelling of any single myth about the abominable snowman. Today's episode combines elements elements from a number of legends and stories about this elusive creature for dramatic effect. Eric Shipton expedition had been making good time up the mountain. When the strangeness began the Group had been winding its way around the the giant base of Mount Everest for several weeks with Tabet closing its borders to foreigners following the communist takeover their nineteen in fifty one mission was to find a viable route to Everest summit from the newly opened Nepal side of the mountain? Ed Hillary was at at the front of the pack. The Young New Zealander had been a late addition to the expedition and was eager to prove himself to the rest of the crew. They we're tracking down yet another snow laden path when a strange other worldly sound echoed across the mountains Ed stopped in his tracks ears straining against the howling wind. It had sounded like the mournful cry. Hi of an animal. But unlike any creature that Ed had heard before glancing at the worried faces of his companions he could see see that they had heard it to Eric Shipton. The leader clapped on the shoulder as he marched past the mountain. Plays tricks on you about here. Sound carries it's probably just a bare one hundred miles off as the group started forward again. Ed turned his attention to the horizon. On a nearby Ridge he could make out a brown smudge that seemed out of place as he watched the smudge rose until it was standing like a man onto thick shaggy legs it through its head back back and again unleashed its haunting cry. Welcome to mythical monsters. Apar- cast original. I'm Vanessa Richardson every week. We dive into history's most legendary monsters. In telling the stories of their origins we hope hoped to shed light on some truths hidden behind the creations of these beasts where they come from what they symbolize and how they expose some. I'm of humanity's greatest fears you can find episodes of mythical monsters and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen into podcasts to stream mythical monsters for free on spotify just open the APP and type mythical monsters in the search bar at podcast. Were grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast our cast network today. We're discussing the abominable snowman also known as the Yeti. This creature has purportedly stopped the mountainous miss areas of Nepal to bet and Bhutan for hundreds of years often reported but never caught. The YETI is the spirit beer it of the harsh conditions of the Himalayas where death is a constant companion always hidden just beyond the next Ridge. Judge The yellowy SASQUATCH bigfoot. If the stories are to be believed mountainous regions the world over are home to races of mysterious apelike creatures every every tale a hiker brings back a strange hairy man in the Bush only adds to the legend. The abominable snowman. The Wild Man of the Himalayas has has stocked the highest mountains in the world for hundreds of years natives of Nepal Tibet and Bhutan. Spot him in the distance the harsh wintry sunlight glancing off the dark russet further. That covers is body. Tribes that live in the mountain valleys. Have many any names for him. But the most widely used is the Tibetan. Word Yeti coming from the words Yaw meaning rocky place and dread meaning meaning bear. Yeti is a fitting name for a hairy creature that lives above the Himalayan tree line at the highest points in the world. The stories of the Yeti are thought to have originated with the Sherpa people of Tibet who brought the tales with them when they traveled across the Himalayas into Nepal Bhutan John and India in the middle of the sixteenth century long before that word of the strange creature spread as far west as ancient Greece where it caught the attention of the legendary military. Commander Alexander the Great after conquering the Indus Valley in Modern Day Pakistan and northwest India in three twenty six BC. He demanded to be shown the fabled Yeti he had heard so many tales about the locals goals refused. They said the valley was much too warm for the ape man and none would survive the track down from the tall freezing mountains in more modern times. Stories of the elusive snowman continued to intrigue visitors from the West in nineteen twenty one one journalist. Henry Newman introduced the creature to Western audiences when he published an interview with a group of British mountaineers who had just returned from from Tibet. The mountaineers had found a large human like footprints in the snow during their trek their Sherpa guides had immediately claimed the footprint it belonged to the Metro con me a term that translated to men bear snowman. Somehow Metro was mistranslated. Insulated by Newman as meaning dirty or filthy rather than man bear. He thought that the word abominable had a nice ring to it so he switched it out for filthy thus the abominable snowman was launched to notoriety. Not long after mountain. Mania Mania took hold of popular culture mountaineers were celebrities and none more than Sir Edmund Hillary who is known as the first man to reach reach the summit of Mount Everest in nineteen fifty-three with all eyes on Everest. There was a sudden boom of interest. In anything YETI YETI EDDIE SIGHTINGS YETI hair even Yeti droppings and Hillary was at the head of the charge after someting the top of the world. His next quest was to find the spirit of the mountains itself. The abominable snowman but the creature isn't all latte easy to catch while some believe it could be a long extinct species of mega-fauna like the mastodon. Or Saber toothed tiger others doubted it ever existed outside of Legend if you ask the nomadic storytellers who still spin tales of the Yeti. They may tell you something. Different altogether together. The YETI isn't an animal but a spirit a divine being a reminder that man can never truly master the Wilderness. Ed was happy to finally be huddled around the campfire. The men of the nineteen fifty one everest expedition. We're currently sitting at thirteen thousand feet above sea level and the air was already freezing. The bitter wind was is whipping past the mouth of the shallow cave. They had pitched their camp in howling like a pack of wild dogs. Or maybe those were were wild dogs. They're cries echoing through the mountainside at the thought. Ed drew closer to the fire wrapping his mittens around a steaming Mug of black bidder. Coffee Dawa Sherpa broke the men's silence another story tonight Dowa a rugged good natured. Man of around thirty five was one of the dozen odd Sherpa Porters who were accompanying the British reconnaissance expedition at the base of Everest. Like many of the Sherpa men on the track Dow was born mountaineer. He had already already attempted the mountain's summit on three different expeditions. All of which had failed. The men nodded eagerly murmuring their agreement into their tins of heated beans. Though they had taken turns telling stories the first few weeks of the journey it soon became apparent. That Dowa Dowa had a gift for bringing the nomads folk tales. To Life. Dawah's suntanned face broke into a broad smile. His dark eyes twinkling in the firelight very well. I had a friend once from Bhutan. He told me the story of the MIR. You're God the Yeti who would not bend one Beautiful Spring Day Mimi K DOLLAH or grandfather k. Dollah was walking in a mountain meadow with his son. Shatti they were on the trail of a young Yak. That had wandered off from. They're heard Mimi K DOLLAH and should not had been walking for most of the day when the yaks tracks suddenly turned following a dry creek week bed into a shallow river valley. Should he quickly scramble to the bottom of the creek bed Mimi K Dollah who was no longer a young man man followed behind him slowly carefully picking his way down the slippery and bank meant Mimi K. Dolo was so focused on his feet beat that he didn't notice his son stopping until he ran right into him. Fifty feet ahead of them lay a gigantic mound and dark reddish brown for the mound was rising and falling in a slow rhythm recognizable as long. Even even breaths. Mimi Quedo Lion Shatti looked at each other in confusion. This creature was like nothing they had ever seen. Before Mimi K Dollah could stop. His son should not tooken inquisitive step toward the heap of for the creature. Sure stirred should he and Mimi K Dollah stood stock still terrified dade woken the monster but it simply role old to its side and settled back into slumber. Now the two men could see the creature clearly for the first time though it was covered in thick dark for the animal was not a bear or Yak. It's human like face was mostly hairless list with long bushy eyebrows and whiskers enormously long arms cushioned. The beast's head like a pillow. Mimi McKay Dolo whispered urgently to his son. It is mere God a Yeti. We must leave before it stirs again. The spirits of the wild wild are not to be trifled with should T- scowled still not taking his eyes off the creature as he whispered back but father who will ever believe us we must bring back proof of the Mir God to show everyone back at home before Mimi K Dollah could move. Should not swiftly trotted up to the creature grabbed a handful of its longhairs and pulled. The yeti awoke roaring and pain and surprise it's cold black eyes narrowed as it spotted Mimi Dollah and shetty before the creature could get to its feet. The old man and his son were racing down the creek bed off Mimi K Dollah who had been so careful before was now slipping and sliding down the track as fast as he could. The creature followed behind them on two legs. Quickly gaining ground with impossibly long strides should not and Mimi K Dolo ran ran faster till they saw an enormous tree had fallen across the creek bed blocking the path but Schettino motion to his is father. The base of the creek was so low that if they went to the deepest point the pair could pass under the tree trunk without even having to duck their heads what the tree had hidden however was that the path ended suddenly in a sharp cliff. Should tea and Mimi K dollah turned to see the Yeti approaching growling louder and louder as it came day were trapped but as the Yeti approached the fallen tree something strange happened. It ran up to the trunk then bounced off it with a dull solid solid thunk. It tried again and again bounced back from the tree trunk. It was too tall to pass underneath. The YETI became upset quickly realizing it could not get to the two hairless animals that had stolen. It's for snarling with discontent hand. It finally turned and lumbered away to find a new spot to nap. Sheltie and Mimi K DOLLAH watched the beast go holding still until they could no longer see it on the horizon. Should he breathed a long sigh of relief then turned learned to his father and said you know in all the confusion I seem to have lost my grip on the Mir God's Hair Mimi K Dollah snorted and shook his head he just heard for his son to follow him after all they still had that missing Yak defined the men of Eric Shipton expedition sat around the Campfire listening with rapt attention as Dowa concluded his story. He explained as Mimi K Dollah learned the yetis immense size can be used against it. This is why you will see houses. In Bhutan with the threshold raised far above the floor and door frame lies very low to enter a guest must raise their legs legs high while bending their heads in a bow. The yeti like other evil spirits can neither bend its neck nor lift its legs high enough enough to enter the Sherpa then fixed the men with a pointed gays Mimi K Dollah and his son escaped. But that's it's not always the case. Let that be a lesson for all you men while we're out here. Nature is often fierce and not very forgiving. Giving best you leave it be and treated with respect for if you don't you might not be so. Oh lucky coming up. The expedition learns that the abominable Snowman is is more than just a campfire tale. Hi Vanessa podcast listeners. There's we have something special. You can only here on spotify. Starting December eleventh podcast is rereleasing forty. Five classic episodes from the critically weekly acclaimed series. Remarkable lives tragic deaths as part of the new limited series famous. Fates Join Carter Roy and I as we discussed the amazing true stories. Behind some of history's most influential lives and shocking deaths every Wednesday famous fates will release. 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Dr Michael Ward Shout from the head of the pack and raced through the crowd of Sherpa Porters until he reached where Dr Award was standing. The doctor was breathless with excitement. Indicating a spot in the snow. Just a few feet away. Ed could make out at the outline of a perfect five toed footprint in the snow. They had seen several footprints. They'd been exploring everything from to Todi the axe to fearsome bear paws. But this one looked like a human's foot as if someone had been walking barefoot on the mountain and it was at least twice the size of any foot ed had ever seen and it was fresh around the campfire that night the footprint was on everyone's minds Dr Ward warmed his hands around Steaming Tin Cup of coffee as he discussed gust his theory. It was made by a bipedal. That's for sure something walking on two legs like a man. I'd bet my right arm. It's it's an abominable snowman at this statement. The group broke into a chorus of chuckles. While ed knew the men were trying to sound brave if he sends to tremor of uncertainty in their laughter Dowa finished his own coffee a great gulp then gestured to the circle circle. Yes the Yeti have become aware of US and why not. We're in their territory now. Another round sound of laughter followed this one even weaker. None of the sherpas joined in Dow continued. We would all do well all to remember to respect the Yeti. The spirits of the mountains can be dangerous if disturbed. You will never overpower the creature. Sure but you might outsmart it if you keep your wits about you. Ed and the others did their best us to ignore the strange cries from beyond the campsite as Dowa launched into a new story. There there was once a tenor named Mimi Petma- or grandfather and he was a man of simple pleasures. He loved his work. Making aching beautiful leather goods out of Yak hides and he loves to drink Ara home-made barley beer. Every Fall Mimi pepitas brother and his family would set out on their annual migration to the warm winter pastures on the plains below the mountain's before they drove grove there heard of yaks through the pass. The family would have a great party in the village. With many tearful goodbyes over glasses of ARA as the party wound down and Mimi Peres. Nieces and nephews busied themselves with packing. Mimi Pem and his brother. Brother continued to drink. They toasted each other's health and good. Fortune cracked jokes and told old stories. The nieces and nephews reprimanded the two old men for drinking too much but still smiled with each new toast or drunken jest. The two brothers loved each other and would be very sad depart ways for the year as the sun crept up over the mountains. The heard of yaks began their long march to the summer. Grazing lands. Mimi Pem and his brother followed behind saying heartfelt never ending goodbyes is finally as the group reached a wooded clearing outside the village. Mimi Pama said his final farewell blinking thinking hard to stay awake after staying up all night. Mimi Pama leaned back against a boulder watching the procession grows smaller and smaller alert in the distance. The next thing he knew Mimi Pama was waking up alone in the clearing. His back ached from leaning against the boulder and his face felt hot and sunburned. His head was pounding perhaps he had drunk too much last night. The old man God not on steadily to his feet he was disoriented and the sun hung low in the sky his head felt thick as if it were stuffed stuffed with Shaggy Yak for. Mimi Pem told himself he should go back home and take a nice rest in his own bed. That would help him feel oh better. Suddenly a horrible stink washed over him filling his mouth and nostrils. It smelled foul of marauded meat and FETID sweat. He turned around trying to find the source of the odour from the edge of the clearing came. The sound of Heavy Footsteps Shadow. Fell across. Mimi Peres path slowly carefully. The old man looked up in terror. He had found the source of the smell standing in front of him easily. Seven or eight feet. Eight tall was a giant shaggy creature. It stood comfortably on two legs. And it's broad hairless. Monkey face stared back at Mimi. PAMA inquisitive Louis. The creatures eyes glittered like small black beetles under. It's pronounced brow the last clouds of the ARA lifted. As Mimi Pama began to panic he had stumbled into the path of a Yeti if he tried to run scream attack it would certainly kill him. His only hope for escape would be to outsmart outsmart the beast thinking quickly. Mimi Pama unhook his sewing bag from his belt he quickly produced a sharp bone needle. A length of thin thread and two pieces of unfinished hide. The hide had been soaking in Tree Oil to cure and was still wet. Let and pliable as he withdrew items from his bag. He kept his eyes on the Yeti. It seemed fascinated by Mimi. Pama and extremely curious about the items he produced from the bag. It was just as well Mimi. Pama thought the longer the animal was interested. The less likely it was to attack after procuring all his tools Mimi Turned back to the Yeti. He placed raced his foot atop a nearby rock and gesture to the creature showing at his tall leather boot. The YETI was entrenched next Niimi Pama laid a piece of the uncured. Hide out on the rock. He gestured to his own boots. Then to the yetis enormous hairy feet the creature seemed to understand and it gingerly held out. Its foot allowing Mimi Pama to guide it to the center. Her of the piece of hide sweating nervously. Mimi Pama held out his trembling hands. He bent over the boulder and began again to carefully shape the leather around the giants massive foot using the bone needle and thread. He sowed the edges together. Her fashioning the beast a rough leather. BOOT the YETI whooped with joy at immediately stuck out his other foot gesturing. During for Mimi Pemba too so this one is well Mimi. Pama gladly obliged quickly encasing the beasts proffered foot in a second second boot the beast was ecstatic. Running and jumping in its new boots. Like a child. Mimi Pem smiled happy. Be His gift. Had brought such joy to the Yeti however he knew it wouldn't last long so while the Yeti was still distracted by its new. Oh footwear the old men quickly backed away towards the edge of the clearing being tenor for so many long years ears Mimi. Pama was intimately familiar with leather. He knew how to stretch and condition it how to waterproof it and how to care for for it. And he knew that the wet hide he had used for the Yetis. New Shoes had been stretched to its limit. Now that it was out of the bag worded been curing it would be exposed to the effects of the warm Sun. Soon he knew the hide would begin to dry and as it became dehydrated it would shrink trapping the yetis feet inside when the Yeti finally noticed that Mimi Pama Emma was trying to flee. It cried out. In anger. It began to move towards the old man through the clearing. But is it chased the old man. The Yetis Roars of anger became cries of pain. It was limping after him. Unable to run that it's normal speed. The leather was already drying hobbling. The yeti seeing his plan had worked. Mimi Pama broke workout into a run. He flew from the clearing using the woods as cover. He looked back and saw that the Yeti was following him but traveling traveling much too slow to catch him a few minutes later. Mimi Pamela looked back again. The YETI was no more than a speck speck in the distance. Mimi Pama could still hear. Its cries of pain growing fainter and fainter the further of the old man Iran. Finally when Mimi Pem looked back a third time he could no longer see the Yeti he had had bested the beast. When Mimi Pomona arrived back at the village he was breathless and white as a ghost? The villagers gathered authored around asking him what had happened. One woman shooed them away urging them to give the old man a moment to rest and refresh his spirit. She offered him a cup saying Mimi Pama would you like some Ara but Mimi Pem. Shook his head he said said. No thank you. I think I'll take a break from the ARA for now after he finished his tail. Dawa Sherpa took a sip from his canteen then he cleared his throat and said Mimi Pajamas. Story is an important one for those who set foot on the mountain outten. He found himself in trouble but managed to keep his head long enough to find a way out of the crisis. Your wits a sharp mind mind awareness of your surroundings and the changing weather. These things are more valuable tools than anything you carry in those packs ax. Ed Sat by the crackling fire. Long after most of the crew had gone to bed staring into its Faint Orange Orange Glow. He'd heard the name abominable snowman plenty of times before but had always considered the creature to be a conspiracy theory. The type of Tall Tale used to frighten travelers. But after hearing Dowa stories it was clear that the Sherpa people still respected and feared the creature as much as they feared and respected the mountain itself. He thought that he and the rest of Eric Shipton screw had been ready for this expedition. They were all highly experienced mountaineers and had spent months preparing but now he wondered if they had made a mistake stake by coming here. Were the stories true. Had they tempted fate by entering into the territory of something inhuman human a creature as wild and deadly as the mountain itself next the Everest expedition comes face to face with a Yeti now back to the story Ed Hillary Eric Shipton and the rest of their crew had already made their careers. As the toughest mountaineers out nears in the world before ever setting foot on Everest Hillary had faced treacherous conditions and dangerous weather in New Zealand but but nothing could have prepared him for the legendary beings guarding the Himalayas. It was the day after dollar regaled told the crew with the story of the yetis new shoes and the mountain had been angry all morning. The men of the British expedition hadn't dared hard to leave the cave. They had captain fearing that. The raging wind was just the beginning of a terrible storm. Eric Shipton the head of the party addressed the group at mess. He said to the men as they ate under no circumstances should anyone leave the confines of camp. Hunker Down Boys. It's going to be a cold one by the early afternoon. The storm had only gotten worse peering hearing out from the lip of the cave. Ed could barely see more than a mile in any direction. The snow's had begun in earnest. Blanketing the mountainside out inside with soft heavy flakes and. The bad weather presented another problem since the men hadn't ventured from the Campsite Excite Cave all day. They had burned through most of their store of firewood. Someone would have to go out in the storm to collect more Ed. Hillary was eager to volunteer. He had spotted a copse of Juniper is just over the ridge to the east that looked like it would make for good firewood. Dowa stood next cheerful as ever. No Man should be out in that storm alone. He insisted he would accompany young. Ed and and ensure that he and the firewood made it back to the Camp Eric. The leader considered the proposition listening to the wind whistling outside. He peered out from the mouth of the cave but could barely see fifty feet in any direction then he glanced. I back at the dwindling woodpile. Eric side shaking his head he could see no other solution. They had to go. Oh he just to the packs full of gear sitting by the entrance of the cave. Eric said each of you. Take a rucksack and a rope tire yourselves together. I can't have you losing each other out in this Ed and Dowa nodded. A gleam of determination in there is they would not could not fail in this mission. Ed took the lead picking his way. Gingerly across is the snow using a long thin bamboo branch to check ahead of him. He knew that this amount of heavy snowfall could cover up deadly cracks and crevices in the Rock and ice one wrong step. And they'd find themselves plummeting into a pit suddenly Ed. Ed spotted a dark shape in the snow ahead of him. It was another massive five toed footprint. He turned to face Dowa. I Wa who was now standing beside him forcing a nervous grin he said looks like one of those mere God prints right Dowa. The Sherpa didn't respond. He just stared down at the print eyes wide with fear. Suddenly another strange cry came out of the swirling snow. Whatever was making it sounded like it was almost on top of Ed Dowa Dowa shouted? It's too dangerous. The Mirror God is warning us to turn back and leave this place but ed refused. He pointed to the top of the small Ridge just feet away where both men could see the tops of the small scrubby. junipers is that grew at this altitude. They were too close to turn back now. Ignoring dowels protests. Ed pushed on through the snow in his excitement. He through the thin bamboo pole aside as he climbed the last few feet to the top of the ridge as ed reached the top feeling the rope connecting him to Dowa draw tightly around his waist. A strange sent washed over him him. Suddenly the snow deadened air was alive with the smell of rotting meat. Ed Gagged holding a a hand to his mouth down the slope. Another twenty feet. Ed could see the juniper trees protected from the heavy snows by the rocky outcrop crop. He stood on but it was what was beyond the stand of trees that caught his attention huddled in the snow was an enormous creature her with shaggy dark red hair. Ed froze with terror. Certain that he was staring at a particularly large bear bear. He prayed that it hadn't noticed them yet but even as the thought bubbled up in his mind his hope soon turned to dismay the creature. Lifted its head and locked eyes with Ed. Then it rose to its feet. It was no bear instead of resting on all fours. The beast stood onto tall sturdy legs as thick as small mall tree trunks. Even from this distance Ed could see the creatures is glittering with intelligence. The yeti opened its mouth mouth and let out the loudest blood-curdling Howl that EPA had heard yet the same strange sound they'd been hearing during the past few days the creature following them perhaps even hunting them. Was this abominable snowman. Edged turned to run his heavy boot caught on Iraq hidden under the top layer of snow. He slipped and fell backwards. Tumbling pulling down the embankment a tremendous crack sounded from somewhere underneath. Ed It echoed across the mountain even and louder than the whaling wind with a roaring rumble the snow beneath Ed gave way he he was weightless falling through the air. His body seeming to flowed in the darkness. It was just as Ed had feared hidden hidden under the fresh snow was a deep crevasse and ed had fallen right in. Ed Barely had time to register. Sure what was happening before the rope around his waist snapped tight knocking the wind out of him and leaving him gasping for breath he was dizzy disoriented and couldn't breathe but at least he wasn't falling to his death. Ed could hear Dowa calling his name. Aim high above the rope already digging into his ribcage squeezed even tighter. His legs brushed the jagged edge of the Crevasse opening scraping skyward. Dowa was pulling him up. Soon Ed felt Tao Le's powerful arms under his own and the old man pulled him out of the Crevasse. They both collapsed into the snow panting from the exertion breath. When ed finally caught his breath he thanked Dowa for saving his life the Sherpas brow furrowed and he shook his head said he said I told you we should head back the footprint was a warning the footprint Ed had forgotten about it he scrambled to his feet and looked back at the snowy plain beyond the now ten foot wide crevasse? The YETI was nowhere to be seen the young climber turn to Dowa his voice full of fear and wonder Dowa. Did you see it. It was is right there just like you said all covered in hair. It was making those horrible. Howls we've been hearing? Dowa looked thoughtful before before. He responded. Make sense you didn't listen to the mountain. Before when the winds were blowing it had to send the Mir God itself self to give you a stronger warning to keep your wits with you come. Let's head back before you fall into another crevasse. Dowa turned back towards camp seemingly uninterested in hearing more about Ed's experience with the Yeti ed stared at the white snowfields. I know fields beyond trying to see if the beast was still out there had he imagined it as Dawa reached the end of the rope. The loop tied around Ed's waste tugged gently. On his side's he turned his back to the whistling wind and headed once more for the safety. Fifty of Camp Edmund. Hillary became the first man. To Summit Mount Everest rest in nineteen fifty-three accompanied by the Sherpa Guide. tenzing norgay intrigued by the stories of the abominable snowman. He heard on his many treks in the Himalayas in Nineteen Sixty Hillary set out to find the beast once and for all like so many others he was unsuccessful. Whole the Yeti did not want to be found though hundreds of searchers of set out over the years a real life Yeti has yet to be brought back from the snowy peaks of the Himalayas for generations? The role of the abominable snowman was to put a monstrous face to the perils of Himalayan in living the nomadic peoples of the mountain range developed distinct cultures while facing severe cold snow high altitude dangerous dangerous animals and the incredible isolation of the Himalayas stories of the Yeti or the Mir God were meant to remind the indigenous Himalayans Himalayans to be aware of the dangers of their extreme environment. They serve does cautionary tales advising their audience that they can survive live in the harsh nature of the Himalayas. As long as they rely on their wits in Bhutan the locals relationship with the Yeti has been affected by globalization and tourism while even one or two generations ago boonies people worked and lived fully in nature now many near moving to bustling cities loud radios and. TV's drowning out. The noises of Himalayan yaks lowering or the wind whistling through pine branches. But the Yeti is still important to the denizens of the Himalayas though most of humankind no longer lives on the edge of the deadly. Ed Lee Wild. There is still a need for caution in the woods. So if you find yourself alone on a mountain trail and hear a strange range Howell coming from somewhere deep in the forest remember to keep your wits about you the abominable snowman might still still be out there. Thanks for listening to mythical monsters. We'll be back next week with a new episode for more information on the abominable snowman amongst the many sources we used. We found guns on Children's book boot unease tales of the yeti extremely extremely helpful to our research you can find all episodes of mythical monsters and all other podcast originals for free on spotify not only does spotify via already. Have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals. Like mythical monsters for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream mythical monsters on spotify just open the APP and type mythical monsters in the search bar and don't forget we get to follow us on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at park cast network. I'll see you next time. 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The Birth of Garuda
"Welcome to the fairytale of India where we bring to US doggies of kings and Queens Princess these are classic teams of eventual. Magic Ngoma from India. Brought to you in a new of Dodd by God starting known more visit midst midst and legends India Dot Com the boat of guttered children. And do you know why God is considered the King of bullets and why Fuel him the soap and guttered the children of Reshi carshield then. Why this animosity between them? Listen to this amazing story. Not Now the great Rishi cash ship was the son of Lord come. He was matted to the two daughters of the Shah they got through and Veneta Board. These sisters would of great beauty and jealous of each other. Gosh the ship was exceedingly pleased with both of them and offered to grant each of them got through said less me with thousands tons of incompatible strict and willow ship said the toss Hoon so be it and to cut through vote born the race opens a thousand of them blessed I with great strength when it was whole tone. Do Choose her. Boone said bless me with do oh sons who shall be more powerful in strength valor and FEM- that my sister's sons said the tall so be it in due course of time. Vinegar lead aches mm-hmm. She gave them to meet to keep it safe. The put these two eggs in warm containers and guarded them and be an ninety five hundred years past but the eggs had hatched. Wiener dog grew so impatient for her still already had a thousand snakes as whore children. She gawk open one of her eggs. mm-hmm the embryo in it had the upper bar fully developed but it's lower-half was still to be formed. The child grew angry at his model. And said how could you be so impatient due to this act of yours. Hi Bond with deformity. So I 'cause you to slavery stop the REC if you wait for another of the five hundred years he shall be born. And we'll be able to remove Yorkers few days after this incident incident the do sisters cut through and Vignon got into an argument. Got Through the system. What is the color of the divine horse? Would J should've us that belongs to Indra the third light and it does offer flawless fight. Column Right from. Its nose twits magnificent. He'll come through. Said you are wrong. While it is true that is fi sent his body out of a flawless vite. Colo I think doc that disdain alone is shiny black color. Let us have a bet on this topic. If you are right I shall become obviously but if I am right you must become my slave instead when the accepted the bet. She was confident that she would win. Do also knew that the horse was white and so the hatch to plan. She called her sons and said I have met with your on that the horse who they should always possesses all black team must meet by woods gone boom and entwine yourself around sustain a black appearance the sneaks did not want to be a part of this deception and denied night Holcombe on Kudu became very angry. She said how dare you disobey the orders of your mother mother. There is no use in having children. That disobey my mom's I 'cause that all of you will be destroyed by fire one day. This is the course that was responsible for many sneaks weeks being destroyed in king. General ideas are sneak sacrifice but that is a story for another day. Okay okay so coming back to our story. After KADUPE GOES TO CHILDREN FOR NOT OBEYING ORDERS HAMAS also agreed and said the house through so be eight when cash uphold the whole story. He went to his father. Lord Pama and deeded him to mitigate the course Lord Pama said your sons are wicked their poison is destroying all creation. mm-hmm we do not control it now. Nothing else can live on the art ever. Not all of them will be destroy destroyed. Those who are worthless and truthful shall be saved. He also dot ca ship among Orrin. Who neutralize the poison of the sneak? Eventually this opens decided to follow them. Mother's wishes the most blacks opens entwined themselves around the tail of Ood Charvis. So when cut through in Vinita arrived the horse was dunk. Now as for the Bet Vinokourov had to solve cut through and the softens as their sleeve after the few hundred years the other EG hatched and guttered emerged the son. He's Nuss John was like the head of the fire in the den asked of me telling me Guinea in this world who is as bright as you of need apply read Lord Indra. This is God the son of Kashirin Villanova he is destined to be the king of off the boards. His father cash ship had granted a boon to his mother Veneta that he will be very powerful and believe leave knowing this all the days start to sing the praises of girls. These said own son of Cossio. You low like five young. You have knowledge of the way those and are greater later than Albany you are like the file and nothing is broader than you so almighty God got old. Please reduce your brightness so that we can see you. Normally healing this player from the at the AIDS got reduced his brightness a thousand times enabling them to see him clearly like his he's model he also became the Servant of God and her sons one eighty got through commanded gut decor GEICO. And whose sons would region in the middle of the oceans on an island Nunez Rahman Yoga which would be a suitable habitat for the NAGAS. So God caddied is Hof but others and in model on his back and started just to fly in the sky as he got closer to the Sun. Though sneaks started to get boone in its heat Kakadu prayed to Lord Indra to save them in the commander the towels to pause which revived the sneaks the sneaks and the muddled reach the island Romania Gar see flee. The island was beautiful food covered with dense forests filled with trees aware three kind however the snakes were not satisfied. These said Oh God goes to some better place. You must have seen something beautiful when you were flying so please take us there got or had grown tired of doing sleeve reforest half brothers. Don't do his mother Vitton said mom. Why is that we have with these snakes? Tell us when. And how did we become their sovereigns window. told him the entire story of the bed. She had made a bit cut through guttered Dane tone to his half brothers and said I no longer wish to be sovereigns how may I save myself and my mother from this saw the sneaks replied. You want aware that only only thieves can or should have under it which was received during the joining of the ocean which is in which is again a story for another okay which did not shed with anyone and so they got it from all it enemies. If you bring us this ommited he shot. Release you when your mother from save the guttered resolved to get. He asked his mother. How can I obtain the moment? I can fly all the way dead but I will need a great amount of food to accomplish this task. Tell me where where I might find. Such food. VINITA said in the middle of the ocean in a remote place a great each tribe of the Nishad. `As a local drive still over there. They have done evil and in order to destroy the evil. You can eat them for Jus-. Tk Ed that you do not by mistake. Consumer Promo guttered Said Mall I shall lead the Nisharma. 's however how shall I be able to identify. Braman his mother light. You can distinguish a bomber by the divine lust still. Also if you eat a hammered by mistake you can identify him by the way he bowlen's your throat. If such a thing happens immediately leasing else the anger of Brahman can even destroy the guards after the shorting his model that he was daycare. guttered flew to the land of shadows and eat all all of them despite eating all the Nishad. `As he was still hungry. guttered met his father ca ship chip on the way in Austin for some food for his hunger Kasha blessed his son and said along your did you will see an elephant bagging his Endo Bravo which is a daughters in their previous boats. What's the cheese named supra thicker and who the quarrelled over property forty and ghost each other to be bond as an elephant and daughters the spectacularly the US still quarreling in this this life? If you you'd them you will no longer be angry. And David also be moved from their course God ordered right exactly what his father has shipboard him do on his way. He saw three and decided to sit on eight to take some rest as soon as he sat on the tree. The branch bull from the Flea Velandia Richie's Vo performing meditation on that branch. cuddled saw the branch falling. He caddied the award Jin his clothes and so he got the name guttered screens bad off heavy wheat. Don't Dave's saw all that veterans moving in-flight meteors and comets started to shoot but in this guy in the was surprised any almost bursts petty Lord. What do these ill woman's mean even when the attacking heaven such things never happen? What is the calse else? But he'd light the Great Bird Goto is determined to walk in to free himself and his mother from slavery. Yes flying in this direction. Who are tacky wall? He's off of great energy and immeasurable strength. If you will boost from will have to prepare for battle in the den order the rest of the Dev's who dated positions for the war. He said stood in front of his army resolve to stop guttered from his mission. That is a reason by God or posed such a threat to the King of Heaven. Indra long ago men Rashiq ship was engaged in a sacrifice. The Gore the Gunther does and all the Ritchie's assisted him Indo were stored to find the fuel for the sacrifice that she's it's known as the Valencia's but also asked to bring some fuel in the broader huge mountain fool of threes. As the few on the he saw the Valencia's what only as large as a ton caddying stalk off off the policy. Leave as the fuel Indra was put out of his power and he made fun of the. She's so so the ghost him saying Gosh will be gone. One Who is greater than you. He will be in the of all creation in the bridge to Lord Brahma who changed the course slightly. He said the son of cash ship will be the Indo off birds. He should be your friend and thus you shall be protected from his up. Our study goes like this guttered was flying in the sky by facing the days the great battle began the Dave's were harassed by the flying birds immense strength he enjoyed them with his claws and beak value to blow him from the skies by raising a dust storm. God countered this trust with wind generated from his mighty wings. All these were defeated defeated. The SAADIYA's and Gunther was led to the east the Lutherans and vassals fled to the south. The deals fled to the west and the Ashwini twins fled to the north unable to bed. The power of God at last after killing a large number of the warriors the king of birds guttered approach the place. Where route was it was surrounded on all sides with great flames that reached up to the sky? Aw God made his mouth very large and flew to the ocean swallowed the water of the ocean and put without the flames that guard the amid it then assumed a tiny form and approach the vessel containing committed. He saw that the wheel with razor sharp edges were spinning very fast intentionally. Get to destroy. Try All came with his great speed. guttered passed through the spokes of that. He we saw that too great snakes guarding the vessel view he generated a great storm to blind and eventually actually killed them with disclose. He broke. Open the lock that was guarding the Bruce to the skies caddying the vessel in use close. When interest saw that it was being stolen he released his oaten weapon? Virtual worlds got weapon meat from the bones of the Rasheed reaching whose story you can. Melissa UNGAVA story debate respect to the Reshi got orders shed incenting one federal and continued. You would his journey. Though he possessed the divine knechtel that would have made him immortal. He did not taste it but as promised took it to his half brothers. He met Law Vishnu on the. We wish no granted him. A boom in appreciation of his selflessness guttered ost wish not to grant him a boon that he would be immortal even without drinking dominant. Vishnu granted him. This boom then said to the board guttered you know that your half brothers are evil. If they drink omelette and become immortal it would The the entire war you have only undertaken to bring the next door to them. You are wise and intelligent agent so you some way to prevent them from drinking it. guttered reached the place where the snakes were and he set the ball of Amrit before them he then said to them. I have brought under talk to you asked about agreement. You should release me and my mother from bondage. The snake said it will be it. In when towards the vessel containing the Almirante guttered said as part all the scriptures. It is important to take bath. Before taking portion of the ambulant else it will not have the desired effect affect the snakes listened to his advise and went to the river to purify themselves in who was waiting in for this opportunity stole the vessel and restored it to its place among the beams thus the evil snakes will prevent it from a painting immortality since the armored bought had been placed on across that grass became secret since goal had helped in the he desired his friendship they divided the rule of the world amongst themselves. Let's guttered got the Lordship of birds and other flying creatures. While in regard rest guttered became name the fateful mount of Shnell in return he got the boon that snakes should become his food. Isn't this an interesting story. Please leave your review on Gotha Story Dot Com. Listen to such amazing in stories on Goethe's story Dot Com and thank queue for listening to this awesome story from gains India. 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Hanuman Jayanti and Birth of Lord Hanuman
"Right now at banana Republic factory save big with fifty to seventy percent off the entire store. Let's take an extra fifty percent off clearance. Doc addresses follows starting in nineteen ninety nine. Thank you nearest store. Shop online only banana Republic factory on the occasion of Heinemann Genty, the book deal flawed. Hon, do you know the story behind his butt and how it is deleted to the birth of law. Trump you should listen to the story about drama of me, the book of law drum from the ball gotta podcast check, the show notes for this episode to find the link to that story. Welcome to the myths legends and fairy tales of India podcast, where we bring to you stories of kings and queens of Princess fairy. And of crafty wizards magical be these are classic tales of adventure. Magic and drama. Brought to you in a new of Dodd by gutter story, UP Rian the magical ride with new stories. Every Marie did by shivani Bidu to none more and to subscribe, visit midst and legends India dot com. Hunnam newman. Jane, the Hunnam on January is celebrated to commemorate the birth of hahnemann the Vannatter goal. The event is celebrated on the fifteenth day of the Shukla buck show during the month of chatter. Hunnam on is an ardent devoted of law. Drums, and is worship for his unflinching devotion to that goal. He is the symbol of strengthen energy Hunnam on is set to be able to assume any form at will. We'll drugs move mountains. Dart through the air sees the clouds and rival gotta in swiftness of light. He is worshipped as Dedi with magical powers and the ability to conquer evil spirits. This is the story of Borna put him on the mighty God. Do you know how he was born? The story of his birth is as fascinating as his mighty deeds. But no hahnemann we have to go back sometime before his birth. Let us go to the palace of Lord Rama where it all started. Do you know who Lord Brahma mice? He is the Hindu God of creation. He is believed to live in a beautiful divine palace in his heavenly aboard. Such was the beauty of the palace that it was a constant source of amazement for even the day. Teas. There are a number of attendance in the cellar steel palace. Courts of Lord Pama among them was a beautiful attendant named under knee. Once happy with her Soviets lot Bama decided to reward her. He called her announced what she wanted on genie hesitated at force. Then she the blind. Lawn. I wish you could remove a course blunts on me by a siege. Tell me about it. Maybe I can help you said Lord Pama underneath continued. When I was playing a child on once I saw a monkey meditating with its legs folded in a low dispose like a human sage it was a funny sight. So I threw some fruits at. I made a mistake. For it was no ordinary monkey. A powerful siege. Had taken the form of a monkey to do his the pastor. My fruits disturbed dispense. He opened his eyes ingred indignation. As soon as he saw me he caused me the time would become a monkey when I fall in love with anyone I begged him to forgive me. The siege said the dasy already auto because he couldn't change it. But he assured me that the man I fall in love with we love me in spite of my monkey face. Lot trauma. I was born in drought up your how can I live with a monkey face? Among my two sisters, if you kindly grant me of wound to become my usual, self. I would be fitting macho Blige d-. She said anxiously. Perma felt Saudi for the unfortunate upset. He part for a moment. Then he lifted his eyes towards the anxious under the. I see a way for moving. Your course on Janie. He said kindly. Go to earth and live there for a while. You will meet your husband on ought, and your course will be removed. If you give birth to an incarnation of Lord Shiva. Said laud tomah. Ungeni accepted. Mas advice. She lived in a forest as young hunters shortly afterwards one day, she saw strong man fighting with the line. What a 'prave man she thought in one day. How I wish she will look at me. As underneath looked at the warrior in admiration. The man Donen saw her as soon as is fell on whole. She don't into a monkey. With a pathetic cry underneath sank to the ground and covered her face with her hands. Seeing her fall to the ground the man came running towards so. Who are you fair maiden? Why do you cry uncover your face? Let me see you. He asked her. I cannot believe man. Underneath on sewed gloomy. I am Ungeni and upset goes to become a monkey when I fall in love. Request you to please, leave me alone in my soul. She will and beat at the handsome man who fingers. Do her great astonishment. She found a big monkey faced man standing before. If she didn't see his face at first it was because she could and because two now she saw him from a distance. The monkey faced man. Understood her surprise. He spoke are not human do. I can take the human form if I want. I am Casey the king of monkeys blessed by Lord Shiva with magical powers. If you become my wife, I will be on owed. Would you owner me by becoming my wife? Dear engineering. On Janie became very happy. She acted his proposal. Ten the seeds. Word was indeed true, part engineering. He's three didn't mind my appearance because he himself is a monkey. Underneath and Casey will matted in the forests being a pious devoting underneath performed intense. The buzzer worshiping Lord Shiva. Lord, Shiva was pleased with her he appealed before Horan asked her what she wanted. Lot shiva. I wish you to be born as my son. So that I can be freed from the sages course. Requested on genie. So be it. Lord, Shiva gave his consent and disappear soon. After this what the as underneath it was worshiping Lord Shiva in another part of the country that should was performing a yoga to have children. It was the put karma yoga. As a result, ugly, the fire God gave him some secret by and asked him to share the by among his wives. So that they may have divine children. Heure lordships boon to underneath started to work while that should give by to his elder wife Kaushalya by divine ordinance applied snatched a portion of that Pash. Holding the buy in its steals. Kite bird flu away from DR towards the forests on Janine lived in. It flew over the dense trees and Trump the by with Janine was engaged in the sale. Value the ever present wind gourd saw this event. Go goo he heard a silent command in his mind from Lord Shiva. Value immediately caught that portion of by and pleased onto the outstretched hands of knee. Underneath fared, something dropping hand, she opened her eyes and looked at the buy in a hand. Is offering from not Shiva. She wonder and swallowed it has the divine by went inside her throat Ungeni immediately felt the blessings of Lord Shiva, due course, she gave birth to a little monkey faced. Boy. He's three was Eddie happy to see his son. The child was called on Geneva or the son of Ungeni having given birth to Lord Shiva's incarnation underneath was released from the course of the siege. She began to express a wish to return to heaven. China. They car heard this. And she without the slightest noise too cold for branch and Wong herself up. Join the story listen to the full series of myths legends and fairy tales of India exclusively available on storyteller. Thousands of stories waiting to be heard start your free trial today by subscribing at WWW dot storyteller dot in. When under Neha game to know about a mother's wish he became sad mobile. We built you. What will be my future? How can I feed myself? How will I live? He asked. Don't vary engineer said genie. You father is the brief case city. You got in spirit as the life giving value all this, protect you. Then you feel hungry fruits red ripe as rising sun would be another sh- mint. Seeing so Ungeni kissed her son and left him alone. She went back to her Evan. Evidently aboard. Foods as Rudin ROY as to sun. Taught engineer. Is son suggested ripe fruit? Let's see. Thinking that the sun was actually some delicious fruit the baby engineer wanted to taste the sun now under Neal was a divine child. He's mother wasn't upset up and his father was a monkey king. So it was natural that little engineer should inherit some magical powers. He was after all and incarnation of lordship. So reaching for the sun was not a tough task for him. He made a giant leap to catch. The clawing ball on the sky. Sudi the the sun. God was glowing. These really in the sky when he suddenly saw a monkey coming towards him. A monkey grew. Because and be go as he neared the sun. But the terribly hot Rize which made any mortal presence impossible near the sun had no effect on the creature. Seeing that sue they've got scared and started calling out for help. Help me he shouted in the king of the gods in heaven was resting nearby is heavenly aboard. He was surprised to your the sun God leading for his help. Why they've yelling for my help. In the one. Eze. Not Paul full enough to burn everything that comes near him. Or is it something beyond this control? I have to see what's happening. In the Dave promptly climbed on item. The white elephant his mom and left his aboard to find the cause of Suria Dave's feel swim. He found that a flying. Monster was trying to catch. Hold of the sun. Little wonder then got sooner they were. So scared taught in there who had never seen such a creature. Stop he ordered. Why you why are you trying to catch the sun? On june. Neil son off case Rian on genie. Replied, the giant child? My mother told me that through its as ripe is the red son will be my food. So I'm going to catch the sun did. I in the was amused by the Chines innocence. So he advised him to return to our. This is not a fruit under near this is a son the source of all light and life said he and commanded Raton whence. You came. But not he engineer ignored commands and continue on his journey to capture the sun. Now in the became very angry at the child's importance. He won him several times not to go near the sun. But under near did not listen to him. Finally, the king of Dave's became so enraged that he struck under Neil with this pund aboard. But joe. Gabu? Pundit bold hit the child wanting his chin and causing him to fall down to earth. The budget of hit under Niaz face. So his cheeks was swollen twice its size. As the boy fell his body became smaller. And smaller. Finally, he became the child sized monkey. He really was and hit the ground. Why you know win? Gold was roaming urine there when he heard a big third. Curious. He went towards the direction of the noise to investigate. What he saw shocked. Why? He couldn't believe his is under Neal was lying unconscious on the ground who had dead win Jorde is godson. Who has done this? He lord. But no answer. The had already left photos aboard the sun was once again peacefully glowing in the sky. The wind God was terribly angry. Why should I bother to do my duty? No, one answers. My question. He thought. With great faction. He lifted his godson in his hands and wind too. The world below the grounds of the earth. As why you left your? There was no air in the world. People animals and trees struggled to breathe and started to die. The sun God was shocked at the turn of the vents. And he ran to promo telling him about the calamity on art. Her mom became voted about the situation on or he got Indra and accused him. Look what you're silly anger has caused you have hut, a divine CHAI, and now people on earth are suffering because of your mistake. This is all because of you. In the hung his head in. Shame. I'm sorry for my actions. He moaned. But on what came and the other gods to look and begged via to turn to. I big Baden on behalf of all men, all creatures and divine beings. Please return to the art or gentle y. Not come anywhere without my on janea. Why said foamy then using his powers? Magically cured engineers wounds. He also gave him a boon. Same. No weapon will ever be able to have an effect on under near again. To please value further in the set to the boy. You will be a children GV immortal. I had taken my Eam in your heart on your cheek sue from now on you will be called as the failure in Hon. Mon. Thus under Neha came to be known as Hon. One and had many more adventures during his child with the blessings of all the gods Hunnam on became a great warrior leader and had helped Lord ram in his quest to bring back the latter's wife Sita. This incident is known to everyone and is recorded in the great epi called ram iron. Thank you. For listening today story. We would love to hear your feedback. You can write to us at contact at Gotha story dot com. Audio editing and mixing by crucial dust.
Post-interview chat Sam Williams of Arweave
"Hi there this is. Cynthia which you're about to hear is a conversation between headache. And I. We recorded this immediately after our interview with Sam Williams of our. We've we shared our off the cuff thoughts about the interview about the project. And where we think it could be going so this is new and it comes from a desire to want to share more of our thoughts with you not just the interviews themselves but also what we think about the projects that we have on the show and it's also an opportunity for us to talk to each other. I mean we often meet in the context of interviews but the epicenter hosts rarely get just kind of sit down and chat. We'll do this after every interview and will post them here for the next little while just that people know that we're doing this. But moving forward the place that these will be published is on the substitutes newsletter. And you can subscribe at epicenter dot rocks slash sub stack. These will be free at least for the time being but at some point we might turn this into a subscriber bundle or some kind of pay product. But we'll let you know if and when that happens so enjoy. What did we learn what surprised us the most? Who did we disagree on her? Have doubts about where could have we done more? Prep or what? Topics were unprepared to address that we might address in the future. What is your outlook for the future of this project and our final thoughts on the interview. So what island? What surprised me the most was that always in our. We've asked targeted at CRYPTO projects. And seeing that that is in the long-term not the plan to me that that was super interesting. Because I've always kind of perceived it in the ram at the capital projects. So you mean you thought that are we was safe for example away to achieve to solve date availability for Blair to solutions and said you know. This is apparently a common mistake. But it's this really interesting. See I didn't. I mean I have had limited exposure to argue even for me it was it was always about like the Perm web thing. And that's maybe because las say of one who invested in our. We've every time I see. It seems like sending me some are. We've link of something that he's that he's stored there and it was always like this web thing to me. What what I what? I learned here that I think is interesting is like at were like personally kind of interested in is the ability to host applications on it. And it's funny. Because at the end when he was talking about at the end of the interview when he was talking about the perils of the red three space and as you grow like you have to monetize because you have to be able to pay for the infrastructure cost my in my conversation with David. He said the exact same thing. Cya and even though come from different places and they addressed the issue of data storage from a different vantage point. Them the I think the outcome of what they're looking for in terms of what this what these platforms could become as decentralised. Application platforms is very similar. Have very similar kind of value. Propositions there from that perspective. Yeah I see that so I disagree. I have doubts is the defense strategy. Basically I mean what he said was. It's the same ominous Bitar and Bitar. Bitar was never successfully attacked a in in any significant way and I think for a protocol that with money on the money. The attack surface is just potentiate so basically saying Bittorrent had the same water and they were fine to me is not convincing enough. Yeah I think that this idea that bittorrent was not attacked. It misses an entire aspect of that problem. Bec- bit torrent was attacked and it was a tat by nation. States like download a torrent file in Germany. And you'll see what happens to you like you're going to get a letter in the mail and probably fine like some hefty amount because you're transferring packets that look a certain way and with our we've obviously it's different because the content isn't necessarily your is less inherently you of a potentially like an illegal Nature in terms of the fact that like it violates copyright by could write like content that gets sent on are we could potentially violate copyright or this is something we talked about briefly in the in the episode with John Shipton is you know any any protocol or any technology that gets built that potentially you know disrupts the power of a nation state can be attacked by external actress. It doesn't necessarily always have to be like attacking the system itself it could be attacking the system from a different sort of layer which is legal. There yeah I also think he puts too large button on the minus so basically requiring the minors to basically screen what they want to save and whatnot from a legal slash moral point of view this skill that that seemed that to me seems undoable because there are so many different things that you're not allowed to do and I think I still think that they approach is probably the right one because I do think that copyright is not going exists in the form that it exists today in the future so basically kind of ignoring this to me is the right approach but basically you're giving the short stick to the miners at this point in time. Basically just saying look. We are just the product of the product. The miners are the people who start the data to me that that feared unjust and it doesn't scale like just look at an organization like Youtube or or soundcloud these. These companies have struggled with this. Even they even though they they're like massive companies have have money you know and and and instill it's difficult youtube still. I think it takes down content but it shouldn't also misses a bunch of content that it should take down but doesn't yeah for sure but I think what what kind of place to the weaves advantages that minors can be based in different locations and that basically Some tastes. I'm much more relaxed about this. Which I mean basically yeah I mean just extra arbitrage right. Yeah but jurisdictional arbitrage from the minors perspective but from the user's perspective. I mean like if all of a sudden on our we like you have a bunch of Hollywood movies being stored and okay. Maybe those maybe. The miners are in some country. That is no like unscrupulous towards this stuff. But you're users in the US. Well that's going to cause a problem for for those users in the US that are using our we've What do you think yeah? Yeah so that I see the point I think copyright laws are going to change because basically I think the way that they are. They won't be sustainable. And the in the number and just because they won't be enforceable and so. I think yes basically. I think while it's midterm issue. It's not a very long-term issue. I think there's a super exciting project I think basically having this Pama web and having these applications that basically store information forever. I think this is super powerful. Yeah Yeah it is for sure like if you go their website they already like. They've got a bunch of applications there. I don't know maybe like a hundred yet. It's like literally hundred and they they even have a dow basically to to decide what kind of applications to sponsor yet. It's it's Personally have an equal it has ecus it has an ecosystem for sure. Like there's a thing here where you can. You can send like a url to tweet at will create like a permanent picture of that tweet There is a perma pace which is kind of Pastebin type thing there's there's a blogging platform. That so I I'd be interested in taking my own personal blog and moving into our we've and having it hosted there forever like all my pictures and stuff that I posted blog and stuff. Not that anybody read my blog. It's like interesting interesting experiment. Yeah so what? What do you think so? I mean in preparing for this. I had done a lot of reading and research on sort of like storage. A storage technology side. I hadn't done so many so much research on the economics and I'm glad that you had seemingly more prepared preparation there Is there anything here that you felt? You would have wanted to be a little bit more prepared for if you had another chance to do this interview. Where would you spend more time? I think I would have looked into bittorrent because why Bitar and at the time. I'm not super intimately familiar with your optimistic tit-for-tat protocol so I think I would have used more time to look into that. I didn't even know about the often six that I I thought that. Also the reputation incentive mechanisms happened at the At the platform layer. We were talking about. I didn't know that the vertical itself had that kind of mechanism built into it so it could be interesting at some point to do an episode of bittorrent like how it relates to because like some of the technologies in between you know exist in in Bitcoin and exist in like all these other these systems. So didn't Bitar Guy Concede all his you know rights to Bitar and on to run awhile while ago. I think so and I think he's no longer allowed to talk about the try and at least that's what I took away from this hundred. No he wasn't allowed to talk about it. But maybe you should ask Justin son so any final thoughts here. I thought Sam was for technologists. He was really good at putting things in a larger context and Constructing this vision for how he liked the panel web to be. Yeah for sure seems to be quite visionary from breakfast. I think which you know is surprising that like a sixteen Z and USB in multi coin and invested in their project. I think they are funds. That often will stand behind projects that her highly visionary and have this long-term vision and was like a reflection in him. Yeah Yeah Cool. Well thanks for doing. This accidentally wouldn't have it any other way.
Episode 543, recorded 2020-09-20
"Could. Morning it Sunday September Twentieth Twenty Twenty. My Away MMELA and it's Sunday morning here in Crystal Lake. It's a beautiful day. We're still having kind of cool weather. So. I. Hope you're having I helped wherever you are your your weather is good and. You're you can breathe well. You're in a fire area or somewhere else or if you've been sick and you're getting better. I, hope you just able to breathe. Today I'm going to read a little bit from the back section of Pima Children's book welcoming the unwelcome. So at this upside just as backwards but this is the book that we just started. We've had one session in our book group, and if you'd like to join it go to the Blue Lotus Temple facebook and there you can sign in there's no cost but you need to sign in through event bright to get the registration, the number, the zoom number. And we're not having one this Monday but we'll have one. Week from tomorrow and you can join us. Anytime. In what I'd like to read today as one of the meditation she suggested at the end of her book. And we're just on the first four chapters now. But some of these meditations are It's good to know and people can be working with these at any point. And there are a little different from the tradition that I'm in. So I, think it's good to to look at other traditions in the meditations that they use. And Pama children is in a more Tibetan tradition. She's in the in the Shum in Shambala that's her primary training was. And our teachers were all Tibetan and art bet now. So her she has a practice at the end of this book on Tongue Land, which we won't talk. We won't do today and a basic sitting meditation. And another one that I'd like to to read to you today. And you can practice this. It's called locate embrace, stop and remain. I often use of rain when I'm teaching meditation and rain is a I read about it through Tara Brach. And some other other people who have been involved with it for quite some time and taken some online retreats. But rain stands for recognition, acceptance investigation, and then returning to neutral, and it's a wonderful way when you're when something comes up and meditation that you can look at and how do we? How do you work with it when you're in meditation? Does it just not become thinking. And I like rain a lot. But I. Think this locate embrace stop in remain may be a little similar but I think it has has some very different aspects. So we can get started with this will read it and then see. If we can let's Why don't you sips for meditation? and. It may be that this. This description you can close your eyes and actually See if you can go through the steps as you're listening. So. The acronym is L. E. S. R.. For locate. Embrace. Stop and remain. Elliott's are pronounced like laser. So we can say les are if someone says laser that works. Pronounce like laser stands for locate embrace stop remained. And a practice developed by Richard Riach a well-known human rights worker and a former president of Shambala International. You can use it as a concise and easy easy to remember way of combining some of the practices in this book for welcoming the unwelcome. So why don't you sit in as I read? You can. You can just let these concepts. Just soak them up. Whenever, you feel yourself getting worked up or having any unpleasant uncomfortable or stuck feelings follow these four steps. Located. Investigate were that grasping contracted sensation dwells in your body? And make contact with it. Number two is embrace. Embrace that feeling. That sensation. That contraction. When way of doing this is by following soak. Suck knee Rimpoche as instruction to send any fearful grasping self-protective feelings your unconditional warmth. One way of doing this. Is To sand any fearful grasping self-protective fillings your unconditional warmth. So those on. Those self-protective feelings are causing you to shut down to protect yourself. So send those feelings your unconditional warmth. This can be similar to calming a hysterical child. The main point is to reverse the ancient human tendency. To avoid and reject pain. Instead you move toward it with heart. Number three, stop a storyline. Stop works for the acronym, but I think of this step more as letting go. Letting go of in interrupting or looking directly at the thoughts and stories. The idea is not to stop thinking altogether, which isn't possible, but to go beneath or behind your thoughts to contact the underlying sense of being hooked. You. Can learn a lot just by having a direct non conceptual experience. Of being hooked. Even if it only lasts for a moment. Once, you've connected with that raw feeling. You can then continue to interrupt the stories and keep returning to the experience again and again. Having a regular meditation practice will help you tremendously with this step. Stop. The story line. That's. We talking about that all the time Number four is remain. Stay present with the feeling. Keep going until it shifts or until it feels like too much of a struggle. You don't have to wait until you feel overwhelmed. This is not an endurance trial. Just remain with the feeling with kindness and war. Leaning in as much as you can. What often happens at this time is you discover how painful the feeling is and realize you don't want to continue to do that to yourself. This can soften you up considerably and can also make you more accessible to see and hear other people. It can give your natural intelligence and openness a chance to emerge. Now those are the four. Those explain basic I four locate locate it were that. Grasping contracted sensation wells. Embrace that feeling that sensation that contraction. Stop the storyline. Or. Letting go. In four is to remain present with the feeling. Keep going until shifts or it feels like it's too much. One to four with these four steps for a while, you can try adding a fifth step. Here are the two main motivation. The. First is what I call experiencing the emptiness of feeling. There are various ways to experiment with this. But they all have to do with the insight. However fleeting that one suffering comes not from that feeling per se. But from the sense of there being a suffer. For example while you were staying present with the feeling beneath the story line, ask yourself who is feeling this. Pause and contemplate. Then ask the question again, who is feeling this? You can repeat this process a few times if you find it. Helpful. Helpful. Helpful or helpful. You can also come at experiencing the emptiness of the feeling from other angles. You can explore questions such as. Is this feeling permanent. Is it transient. Is it solid? Is it fluid. Is it fixed? Is it dynamic. Is a finite or infinite? You can also ask, is this feeling me? Is Not me. Is it an obstacle? Is it a portal? Or you can touch the feeling completely free of story line and say when experienced directly this very feeling is basic goodness. Or basic goodness is found right here. In other words you don't have to wait until the feeling is gone to find basic goodness. So. That's what she calls one of the V steps. An alternative fifth step. V is in five, is to experiment with using the feeling as a way to awaken compassion. While remaining present with the raw feeling. Contemplate that countless people and animals all over the planet are feeling just like this. Use Your experience as a way of gaining insight into our sameness with one another. So. At this point, you can contemplate along these lines. May I and all beings who feel like this? Ba free from our pain. May We be free from the underlying contraction and fear. That come from defending our personal territory. You can also take this opportunity to practice. Tong. Lan. Reading in deeply opening to the share feeling and then breathing out relief to all beings. Including you're. Fearful. Contracted. Self. who were caught in the same way? Both of these fifth steps are based on the same idea. Tapping into your innate capacity to experience your feelings, direct clay and non conceptually gives you a doorway to going deeper into experiencing emptiness and compassion. At first emptiness and compassion seemed like separate things. But eventually you will experience them in their basic essence as inseparable. And non. Dual. On read that sentence again. At first emptiness and compassion seem like separate things. But eventually, you will experience them in their basic essence as inseparable and non dual. L., E. S. are laser and it's related practices provide you with the means to expand your view an open, your heart, and mind at the very point where we all habitually contract and go inward. These are practices for a lifetime that you can begin today. So. If this. Appeal to you. I think you can just go back and listen to my voice or if you have the book. You can. Read this this again, it's at the back of welcoming the unwelcome. And I think that's a practice that it's very similar to rain. The recognize except. Investigate and then returned to neutral it's very similar so. there's some beautiful. Sentences in this it just grabbed me grabbed my attention. So it's I'll definitely practiced with this more because. Being able to look at those feelings and. the IT always comes up for us the story line the story about it. the story we've told ourselves for so long. So letting go of that story line. Is a wonderful way to get out of that feeling of being stuck with an emotion. Where we can look just at the emotion itself. and. In often, it's very helpful to see. I found. in Meditation to see how. Unhappy that emotion can make us how sad or how fearful or angry the emotion. Just of an old incident can. Come up, come up and trigger us. If, we can stay with the emotion letting go with the story the stories in the past, we can really make a decision for ourselves that. The suffering we create for ourselves. By having that emotion come up with all of the loaded qualities to. we can decide is it worth it for for me at my getting? am I getting anything out of just feeling this pain feeling the suffering? Am I ready to let it go. To. Even look at why why do I want this pain? Why do I want this suffering coming up over and over again? So I think she describes that beautifully in this description of Laser L. E. S.. R.. For that was new, that was new to me when. I I. Look through the book. So anything that works for us. This could be part of your meditation. You could. You could understand it, and then when something does come to you. Just. Take time to sit down and work with it. And go through the steps. And all of these kinds of techniques or things that can be very helpful. It. If we need to learn to begin with a basic setting practice. So where we've already been able to. To know that when I sit I can calm myself. I can. Let go of a lot of the kind of superficial things going on just in the moment. The business or the frustration or irritation or Might be loneliness or sadness. A that we've learned with daily practice that we can sit and be in the present moment and let go of some of that and calm self. So we can. Look more close eventually allow ourselves to look more closely at those emotions, but the first step is to have the. The basic practice of being able to come to the present moment. That mindfulness. is so important. It's kind of a center pin for so many other qualities we want to develop. So even for a few minutes, if we can calm ourselves with our breathing. and. Come to the present moment. Then we can work in they. We can work with so many of these. Deeper emotions that are really. Really, the ones causing us pain and suffering. So. Everything. You can do to be able to calm yourself to relax your mind and your body. To be in the present stay in the present moment little longer. And our present moment is full of challenges. Mean our present world is full of challenges but when we can. Come to the present moment and be with our breath. And just be open and calm. We can see that this present. Instant this moment. Things are going. Okay. We might we have a minute to calm down. we can. We can let go of some of the. Some people are feeling fear. Some people are really feeling a kind of a kind of depression now because they're. They're just kind of at the end of their tether. It's it's probably feeling like this has gone on too long. This. In indecision and. Lack of clarity is better for what we're actually. What we need to be safe about how we need to be. Protecting ourselves that that lack of clarity is. Widespread. So that's that doesn't help that doesn't help us be calm and. Being in the moment. So. For today. that. Laser. and. Then have a beautiful day. And if you want to join the book group, you have another week to do some reading and You can sign up. On facebook if you go to Blue Lotus temple. and. You'll be directed to go to event bright and you can sign up that way that there's no cost. And? I love to have you in the group. Looks like a lovely group. Have a beautiful day. and. Enjoy everything. You can enjoy find your own peace within. Bye Bye.
R.L. Stine's Silent Night
"Hello teen. Creeps listeners this is producer Brett and before we get to today's episode on silent night. I just wanted to take a quick second to apologize for last week's episode mix up on behalf of everyone here at forever dog. We are very sorry that we deprived. You of a teen. Creeps Christmas episode on Christmas week. How could we? And if it sounds like Kellyanne Lindsey are holding a gun to my head right now. I can assure you, they're not I asked him if I could do this intro because in addition to growling for mercy. I also wanted to sincerely say how amazing it has been getting to know the teen groups community this past year, you are truly one of the most imaginative hilarious and supportive fan bases in all of podcasting. And it is an honor to play a small part in bringing you this show. We after week. Oh and for today's episode which was supposed to be last week's episode. We decided not edit Kellyanne Lindsay's out true because they have some really funny and sweet messages for you. But just to be clear on the dates the episode on Charleston's lights out will be coming out next Wednesday January ninth the forever dog. Best of episode came out last Wednesday, December twenty six. Six check that out if you haven't already and stay tuned for more teen creeps fund and surprises in the new year. Okay. On with the show. Happy holidays. You're dead. This week on the podcast RL Stein. Silent knight. Welcome to teen. Creeps the podcast that discusses why Pulp Fiction, I'm one of your host Lindsay die. I'm another one in your house. Galley nugent. I forgot that that we had talked about that being the tackling for silent Knight. Yeah. And was very excited when you said that just now, it's maybe the funniest tagline. It's a terrible t insane. It's so bad. Happy holidays, you're dead. No sex. And that never gets said for the messages to revoke are never even threatening. They're like from a friend. Yeah. Okay. Weird present, which here's the thing. I've been so excited to do this story. This story this book for a long time. It's insane. There's so much going on in this book. I didn't know it was going to be like multiple plotlines. There's like a beep. Lots easy D. Like, yeah. There is de LA the dad has his own plot going on where like so much to deal with with the store. Like, oh, yeah. They're having electrical problems, and you just had to let their drunken night or the dirty headed Dougherty go. Yeah. Head of security go they have multiple stores. He is in such a state. Okay. So do you remember the back bug? Yes. Don't open that president. If only Riva del be had listened to that warning. Wait what beautiful cold Riva won't listen to anyone? Even have whatever and whoever she wants after all her daddy owns W department stores. Now, someone has surprises in store for her robbery terror, even murder terror Tara, even more Dr more door someone wants to treat more, but to a holiday she'll never forget holiday cheer quickly turns to holiday shit where Riva I thought it was going to say holiday fear. I know are you fucking kidding me with knives saying fear, just then it's fear street. Yeah. And it rhyme holiday cheer street. Quickly. Turns into holiday fear street for REBA. I would even accept that more. They would be hilarious if that's right. Not to have said cheer or fear someone stalking her someone's trying to get to her her money can't help her. No one can after all who can you turn to win murder comes gift wrapped. Gift route taken give rent. Nobody warned her not to open the nobody's that shit outright lie. I am incensed. I think we have another entry into our scale. Yeah. With reba. Yeah. Also, she kind of doesn't get better. She barely for a page. She does. But it's honored. She gets better. And I'm like what why are you better? Get just all of a sudden, you're like realized like all does go you have no friends. No one likes you. You're mean to everyone. And she goes, I guess I have been pretty cold ever since my mother died. Oh my God. And she's like she's like, I never even cried. And I'm not gonna cry. Now, nor will I ever heard the whole book yet the entire. But I know I should have also like she keeps doing the whole like she she's she says multiple times in the book like ever since. Other died like she's very like. Yeah. The only one she's not mean to hurt little brother. Michael her six year old brother? Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael. Yeah. Barebones summary Rivas a huge bitch. Her dad owns the mall. And he's like you get to work there and she's like ill. And then she's like I'm going to play tricks on people by link telling them, they have jobs, but like really they have other jobs, and then someone's like, sending her scary things and like at work at work home at her place of work, and they're all gift drabbed. And then a one of them's a corpse. And it's Mitch this guy that like works there. One of the guy. She played a joke on. No, she wasn't playing a joke on him. She was just trying to steal him away from his girlfriend, and then like decided that he was too Wimpy. And was like your nose. So here are the jokes. Are you finish? Sorry. Oh, someone killed. Someone kills kill kills match. It's in a big box. And she's like. The stakes are higher. Been heightened. And then then we think oh my God. And this is where infamous our caller foxy is rob. Oh, yeah. Rabbits, Fuxing, FOX. Fox is Robin Roberts boxy. I totally forgot why that sounded familiar to me. So. And rob is foxy so adorable. I loved you a little bit more just than remembering that I was like this little kid. I'm just imagining a little kid like reading and being his rob. So turns out that like she's also like pranking her. Cousin prankings just being made. Yeah. I like playing jokes in pranking. Is y'all she thinks of it. But really, she's just being a raging con-. Yeah. She's like just like like straight up being very mean to people. And she knows as she. She doesn't like think that these are good pranks. She keeps calling them that. But she knows full well that she's just being a bitch. She's like I'm so mean, I don't I don't care so fun. So funny to be. So mean, her pranks are, okay. Well, we'll get we'll we'll cover all the Prague's. She does. Yeah. But then so she finds so then she finds out that foxy slash rob, the chubby boyfriend of Pam. AM is the one who's been sending her the stuff and the please take him away. Because they think that he's the one who killed the guy not him. No the person who killed the guy is the dad that got fired at the beginning of the book head of security had security who who got fired for drinking on the job. Yeah. There's so much happening. There's will get a why he killed Mitch in a bit. But and then he like confronts Riva at the end or not even confronts. She shows up by accident when he was trying to like rate a safe and he's like whoops. Now, you see me I have to kill you. I did this because your dad fired me I needed money and Mitch was going to like telling my son anyway that'll that'll become clear later. But and then that's the. Yeah. And she's like, wow, I guess the way ever since mother died I've been very cold like I've had so many walls up. It's like knee were account. Yeah. You wouldn't have walls up like you were just being. So mean. Such a bitch. And then she's like, I guess I should hug my cousin. And so she hugs Pam, and it's like all matter. Well, she did like apologized to Pama bunch. It was all just so like she turned on a dime. Also, Pam here's like, no regret from her before that moment, if I were Pam I would not have forgiven her so quickly to likely not. I would have been like, okay. I mean, it's good that you're changing. But hey, thank you. But I'm going to have to see prove that you've chain. Also, like, I don't really want to be in your life right now. 'cause like you've been so terrible. Yeah. So here her pranks. She breaks up with her boyfriend yet prank one break-up she breaks up with her boyfriend like in a very mean way, very mean tank. So she's like we're done. She's like, we we should talk. And he's like oh, Yay. And she's like, I don't want to be with you. And he's like what she's like get out on my car, and she likes it. She's like get out of my car like she unlocks the door and opens your him across. Ross across the seat. And she's like this is simply delicious like her inner monologue is is so obnoxious. She's like, I can't believe oh my God. That was even better than I thought it was gonna be it soon juicy so funny so funny, and so he's like ditched out on the road. And she's like she's like cackling number complete tries to work. And then I'd says I have a bunch of open positions for the holiday season. She's like, no problem. I will hire all of my friends, and she's like I things up. Mitch. He's a straight up yuppie Cutie. He's so hot. He's really good at football tennis. Oh, Hank is the fulfill buyer and she thinks he's a Neanderthal. That's right. She also kind of likes it. She does she likes. Also like when he's like loses his temper, and she will like showed him into Yahoos as upper weird. She's got some. Like issues for sure. Yeah. So she next prank is trying to rank to is she so she calls Mitch. And she is like hey match my dad's Tunin to need anywhere over the holiday season. He's a cool. Golly. Yeah. And she's making good now. I can get you from Melissa. And he's like, oh can my girlfriend whistle job too. And she's like fuck. And the most comes on the phone and she's like, oh, hi. So she was like fine come to work dress dress to impress. She's like wear your hottest outfit where you're most expensive fans. Wear glitzy, and she's like. I'm gonna make her work in the stockroom. She's going to be so embarrassed. Yep. Which is so main at so mean, and then she's like prank three she is driving down the road. And she sees a chubby boy named for Bob who she says in her inner monologue. She's always liked. Yeah. Like, I always liked rob. Even though like he has asked me out a bunch, and I have made it perfectly clear that I am not about to date him because he is chubby. Yeah. I'm going to pull over and ask if he wants a job, and I'm gonna tell him to wear a suit because he'll be working in PR. But really he's going to be our mull Santa. Yep. So then the way that the prank comes out is that everybody shows up and it's like in the insulted. Yeah. And all it is she is set. Everybody up to be embarrassed and insulted, and like listened like starts crying. And she's like, oh like, I look like. Idiot. And then the guy in charge of the soccer is like go, home and change. She runs off crying. And then guy in the stock room is mad at re. Yeah, he's like, oh you've been like playing your tricks again, which we she's just like pranking, quote, unquote, people all the time all around the store. Yes. Which is insane. It's insane that she even works there. Well, she's like working to like help out. Yeah. Choosen need the money because she's also rich. She's very rich. She's rich sh- riche. She's pretty and then there's our poor. She is reach poor per poor. Pam Pam will. Then for Robert comes in though, or not was his name. Rob, rob, rob, rob O R O B BB used rob comes in. And he is likely. What the fuck you told me that it was a PR job. And she's like you don't even have to wear a pillow in front of everybody. And then he's like. Just so mean, and he's just like, okay. One needed a job and she's like Parang number two three complaint. Riva you. And then pregnant before is she doesn't give Pama job. So Pam calls and she's like ill my poor cousin. She reminds me that not everybody can have things that they want. And so I'm going to remind her oh there is this. I was reading dear prudence, and there is this person that wrote in and I love when like a person that writes in gets torn a. So this woman writes in and she's like high, so my friend. Here's the thing. I have a child, and my friend can't have children, and she's like always asking a whole my child, and like I've made jokes like, oh, you're trying to steal my kid because you can't have them and like, my friend Sam being mean? But like, oh my God. Honestly, like, I just feel like I'm I am right in being scared that she's like like she always trying to help out with me in the kid. And she's like, I don't know. I just feel like I need some solidarity here because everyone's attacking me and your prudence was like listen. You are a small person. Like, you the thing that you don't wanna face is that someone is the is the scary realization that some people don't get everything they want in life, and the fact that this friend wants children, and is merely doing kind things for you reminds you that you may not get everything you want in life. Not as sad like just tore apart. It's like, oh, how small of you to take someone doing kindness for you and twisted around into oh, they're trying to steal my baby. Like, just rip them arousing. Thank you love that. Isn't there? A dear Abby or deer him where it's woman talking about going on a cruise, and it's like, and I don't invite my sister because she's too porn. She wouldn't be able to go anyway. And like people are telling me, I should invite her places. But like, I know she'll never be able to afford it. And she's just like tears her a new asshole. Yeah. It's like, well, why don't you invite her in? She can make the decision if go. Yeah. It's like, I'm planning a Superfund trip with all my girlfriends, and I know she can't go. So why would I? I love when people just like you can tell they're lay answered your own question. You horrible person. They're like trying to cloak it. In some way, in a way that like makes them not bad. But it's still so bad it because because they don't have that piece of their brain telling them to empathize. They can't even see how bad of a cover. Yeah. They've put on it. There is I'm just concerned about her lack of wealth is I'm being a good person. And he's trying to make it. So she doesn't have to say, no. But she can say, no and Chuo. It's nice to know that she's being included. Yeah. The there was one where a it was similar classes thing where this woman was had given a bunch of yarn to her daughter-in-law for Christmas present and the next year the daughter had worked like over the whole year and made them like this beautiful blanket. And gave them this blanket. She was like, oh, I made the blanket with the yarn. You gave me and she was like I was disgusted that she didn't bother to buy new yarn. Like, no one taught her how to give a present. What? Yeah. What? Yeah. And she's like my husband keeps saying to let it go. And my son is mad at me because I have hinted that his daughter was not raised correctly two. Like, why would you make a present for someone else with the thing that they got you? And I wasn't supposed to use the yarn. She was supposed to not for a gift back to me. That makes I know this was like this person spent a year working really hard to make you a present with something they were grateful that you gave them. But the fact that you can only see giving as a monetary value is very sad for you. And they're like you need to stop bringing this up with your family because you are wrong. That's maybe more insane to me than the others you because like with the other two I'm like, well, they're just raging like what are you going to do? I'm like put I don't get hit you gave her the yard to us. Yeah. And so not only. So you've bought something that now you get to keep. Yeah. No, no. But she's like she should have bought something. Is it just that? Like, she didn't like the like, I it's like it's like if it's you just don't like the blanket, then you don't like the blanket. Yeah. Don't try to like couch it in like, well, no. It's just like it's not good gift-giving practically the weird thing. That's so bizarre. Yeah. But I think that could be I could see my mother like getting mad about something. Like that likes? Really funny. It's so it's like, dude. But like this person like worked like for a year on this thing for you. It's just like the source of the yarn hasn't really matter. And if anything that seems like nicer and more thought than you share. Yeah. It's like, oh, you got this for me. I'm gonna take it. And I'm going to make something for you. I feel so bad that up Lincoln like can you imagine like being like all I made this. And I just thought it would be like this really cool thing. Like that. I don't know when you would use it. You would think you would remember the kindness that you gave to me? Yeah. And the person's like oh. The hang she said that she said something to her about the source of the yarn. It was crazy. I can't. I said about the source of the yard the yard that is so confusing. She was like, oh you made with the aim you. What a bit. Speaking of mothers. Oh, mother says I am going to make this Christmas. Tree. Spinach dip breadsticks for Christmas appetizer founded on Pinterest. And then sent me a picture looks good. Wow. Is that what she made her? That's what I think. That's John Pinter she found and also have not saying you screen shot. She sent me a picture of her computer screen. Sounds right. Yep. Sounds right. I mean, it looks good. So good for her. Okay. So so prank four is a not going to give Pama job because she's too poor. Yeah. And I don't like that. She makes me think that people can be poor. I guess and she'll she gives no reason. She's like I don't like her because like people like her. Yeah. So she's like, I don't like her. So she's punished like why do people like her so much? She's poor. And I'm not an THEO seem to like me as much. Here's the other thing. So she's like people just seem to like Pam because she's so nice from the get-go pans like I'm gonna fucking pitch. We never seem. Nice pay. Not nice. She's nice. Pam does not exist in this Bush's either talking about how she is going to exact revenge upon REBA. Driving a getaway car on home or writing in a getaway car. Yes. And like talking to foxy or like getting like attack from behind. Yes. Who oh oh. Oh, what Mitch jumps out of the bushes. Pans plot in a story is that it was her her boyfriend foxy who is Robin Roberts foxy. He's been working at his job at the department store. That's another funny thing that Riva did. I guess is give a job to Ono. She didn't know never mind. She didn't know she didn't know that Pam and rob were a couple. So rob did he got that? He got that job as Santa. Yeah. But we like don't know who he is yet. We think that foxy and rubber to defend people. They like, no particular reason. Yeah. Did that really serve the story at all? It was like, oh that's a surprise. But I don't know. Why it you know, what it helps to hide who Mitch? Or like that Mitch it helps to trick us to make us. So I it hides who killed Mitch. Because like the red herring is foxy slash, rob. And then it's like, oh, no it wasn't him at all. Because member it's like, we see them getting a fight. And you're like why is this? Rob dude, fighting Mitch. That's weird. Yeah. And then later, she's like, oh, he was fighting because like he was going to reveal that Pam and her friends broke into the department store to try to rob it. Yeah. Oh, so that he must be the killer. Oh, no. He's not the killer. It's mitch's or I'm sorry. It's Mickey's data's dad. Yeah. I guess the reveal is fun enough that it's fine yet. And I'm fine with it. Yeah. But it wasn't like there's no. And especially like because foxy is like such a bizarre nickname. It is it is. Because also it seems like never get stocked about Riva just goes. Oh, I guess she calls him foxy knows it. I guess that's a nickname. She gave him. But I would like for it would take me so much longer to understand that. I'd like, wait. I'm sorry. Are you sometimes song? See is is your little name foxy like what is the origins? Rob your middle name. And FOX's your first name. What where did this come where? Yeah. Just everyone else. Call you foxy or is it only pan. This childhood nickname. Where does this come from? Does your parents call you foxy as a little kid? That's not appropriate. Yeah. So yeah. So ham isn't seeing a lot of foxy, rob. Because he's been working as Santa. So instead shoot like hangs out with the only other people she has access to okay. A couple of burnouts named Mickey and clay and clay's like straight up. Crazy clay is like bad news. Yeah. We she goes to meet them at a seven eleven to hang out and they're getting snacks. And then the the cashier accuses clay of stealing, and they insist no. And the cashier is called the cops already. She's like, hey, mister, that's not right. He didn't steal and still. You can't just accuse him of things. He didn't do except we know instantly that he absolutely has stuff in his pockets. He's like empty your pockets. And he's like, hey, man. How 'bout FOCA kill you? Like showcase him. He stayed up chokes against the cash register they all run and getting PAM's car and and have a police chase. Yeah. They they truck. Yeah. It's intense is a fucking like crime driver. Like, he has this all the time that Klein is. Yes, he is. He's baby driver. He's right. Gosling drive. He like guns the car to like ninety five miles per hour on residential streets is like zipping all around and it was like. And then after it's over there like, oh, I've never liked. They're all horny from. They're all like so excited by the experience included. They're like, oh my God. I've never been. So scared. Yeah. Like, I've never been so horrified from my life. They're all like teeth seconds away from it three. So because they're also high the entire car is like steamed up, and then he's like, yeah. I got a little treat treat, and they don't avocado debts. But they have a dip. I thought it was cheesed it. Canned avocado. That'd be strange. If I translated that my brain. I think I maybe not that it was like impossible. She used it or something happened in my. Okay. Here's the thing. You did eat guacamole last night. I was there. That's true. Maybe almost had avocado toast crunch. Here's the thing. There's like a C you have like an avocado amoeba and your brain. I guess swear. It's like it's like one of those little Fritos things of like, stinky cheese dip, we this. We have to find out. Gatting? They're getting. He's also he's driving a Pontiac. Yeah. That's not like easy to know. It's like a boat of a car. We'll what is it being? No, we're both wrong. What is it healthier of them? Burst out laughing. They were too worked up to stay in the car. They bounded out onto the sidewalk whooping and cheering. I was so scared. Pam confessed. I've never been that scared before secretly she admitted to herself that she had also found the car chase or really excited. The win had died out a bit. But she tightened the wool muffler around her sore throat Klay suddenly had a very devilish expression on his face. Hey, guys. Look what I got. He said he reached deep into his cO pocket and pulled out a can of jalapeno dip. Oh, so is it helping cheesed it? That's what I thought. It was like, you know, those little Fritos things. Maybe he. Yeah. So you were like it's green of. And then you heard you were like, avocado cheese. No, no. I never thought. I would. I am avocado. How dare you? And then you you read avocado, and you thought cheese. And and then I was like maybe saying, yes. I think clay Pam cried truly shocked Mickey gaped swallowing hard. You mean it was supposed to go with the chips. Clay said he laughed and toss the can high in the air catching at one handed when it came down. They'll head Boehner's. So he stills helping you dip. Yeah. And now they have no chips. Classic conundrum. This is like the hotdogs and hotdog buns situation is it's worse because they literally have not jabs. Yeah. What are you going to like finger hell opinion? This is exactly like the character that we hated in that Chapman book patriot Pedro dot com slash teen. Creeps way covered. Lullaby by Chuck Konak, some puck what was his name something stupid like like jazz. She is just g something. He was disgusting. He sucked he sucked he should have died in a stupid name. Uh-huh. All of her. They know it's like not a name. It's a tree. It's like a corner. Avocado talk. What is an alster? Waster tree Stor. It's the other people in their Wicca group. All tree name. No, no, no, no, not waster, whose oyster oyster is the guy with the red hair or I'm sorry. No, the guy with the the guy that fucks the he's like the fake, son. No, no, the guy that was eating dip with his fingers was oh, the cot. No. The more guide the E E N T E. Oh, the avocado. What kind of tree? Mt. The avocado driver auto driver. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I said. I don't know if it's going to be listed, quite honestly, I think we should something Nash. We should just be quiet while you re read the home. No, no, all all you don't want to reread. No, I don't ever want to me that I was thinking you were saying Claes like waster because he's like a annoying. Filming his nose at society on a little shit. But he was I I was saying that eating with the dip with the fingers finger dep-. Yeah. Last night Patrick told us he had a friend that used to lick at restaurants. Liquor plate clean. And he said this happened at a top us plants and he sheared played here tiny place or on shared tiny plates. Sorry. I am. Sorry. If someone's sorry, if you listen to this podcast. I'm very sorry. But that was not. Okay. No. It's not. Okay. Here's the thing. I have yes. How to play in the privacy of my own home? Yes, it's disgusting. And it was not. I'm not proud. I would never never in public. The most. I'll do is like maybe like scrape with a spoon or something. Yeah. If there's yummy sauce. Yeah. We've have a chip or something. But like, well, then I shared that. My stepmother would like take her finger and wipe it up deep entry into her mouth. Yeah. That that is more of a sexual move unless of utility. Yeah. No, it was like a weird aggressively sexual to everybody at the table, right? This is more of a like Amil doggy. Like what what do you think was on that plate see top? I'm gonna text Patrick and see if you're is all of juice. We'll update you guys all sorts of sauce some kind of lake olive with like a ham with spam. Like topping on top. And I'd kind of olive top enough. Patrick. I'm gonna say what was on the plate that the girl licked, he'll know. He knows he knows. Yeah. So the they get chased by the cops. And then later Claes like, hey worked out with the security guard may bury the the plan beginning. It's so insane. These are very dump teens, it's a very below average intelligence teams. Yes. So he the security guard at Dhabi's the department store that reveal work that and her father owns 'cause she's Riva dull be revived OBI. Put somehow like a first of all I would like to know how these two came to have this discussion the meek, Hugh. Yes. Me very and flunking play. What's Klay doing the somehow like maybe vitually guard is like, hey, I have this great idea where I sit on my ass and do nothing while I let you three. Three take whatever you want in the department store after hours at as long as you take like as long as you get stuff from my Christmas list. Yeah. Exactly. And then they go to do that. And maybe areas nowhere to be seen and a different security guard is there and is like, hey, what the fuck are you doing and Klay just keeps going? It's fine. It's fine. Where's mayberry? Where's the fact that Mayberry is nowhere to be seen? And he's keeps insisting it's fine. But also doesn't know where he is integral part of the plan was meeting Mayberry outside. Yeah. It's very stupid. And so also play had brought a gun when he gets up the gun. I'm like you guys need to get out right now. It does not matter. Like, you know, here's the thing felony murder any murder that's occurs during the enactment of a felony. Even if you're not at all involved in you're just in the felony. You are found liable. Or you could be found guilty of of felony murder. Wow. So Billy murder is one of the levels of murder. Yeah. So yeah. Like a whole thing of like, nobody has to die like, please. We're not gonna kill anyone. It's like really for everybody involved. Because even even if you're gonna if you didn't pull the trigger. Yeah. If you're because you're the actions lead to that consequence and the felony just like bumps it up already so misdemeanor, you're lucky, but felony. I'm sure what they're doing is felony. It's armed well. It's breaking and entering bringing an injury theft. Yeah. And then once they're confronted he pulls out a gun, which is I would say assault. Yeah. And that security guard gets shot, but like from behind, but they don't know that because Claes gun wasn't loaded. They like fucking cut and run the hearer the next day that this Kurdi guard died and somebody got twenty five thousand dollars from the safe. And there were like put that was an us. I know she's like we did a bad job of rubbing, you know, we didn't get anything. And we and then close like an I didn't load my gun. So I didn't kill anybody. And they're like why I know and at that point two hours like I don't trust. Like, I don't know. Don't take. Yeah. I did. And I was also like what? Yeah. I was like wait what? So it turns out that Mayberry did that so that he and Mickey's dad who had just gotten fired could rob the safe. Yes, it so maybe it was just like, yeah. Got like three kids there. They think they're going to help them. Rub. The store we'll be a perfect distraction for the other security card, and we can rub the safe and he's like great. And then when that's happening. He sees his kid is one of the three and goes, oh, no bang and shoots the security guard, even though he was not an imminent danger. So he goes the security guard, and then later Mitch who was just like there and saw it happening because Mitch was doing something with the videos, darling means ers that's hang. Security. Oh my God. Just like anywhere. Not hank. Hank was not managed. But foxy was rob rob was foxy. Here's just like their after hours or stocking or something, and he sees every everybody, but he doesn't know what's happening. So then the next day when he hears it the security guard died, and they somebody stole twenty five thousand dollar. He's like, oh, I guess that those claim Mickey and pay 'em all start blackmailing them. Yep. 'cause I'm brilliant because every teen in this book is an idiot. His way of blackmailing except for Hank. Hank has away with machines is actually turns out nice. Yeah. He's a good little electrician, but mitch's like he calls her. He calls. Pam. He keeps calling and he's like the money to ten thousand dollars. Tell everybody dirty little. And she's like Hello. Later, you like attacks are on the street, and she turns around. Oh, you soon it turned around. Way of attacking her is very stupid. Okay. She's like she's like walking down the street. She's like, Ooh, I feel a presence in the news. Like, it's me and like jumps behind her and puts like a hand over her mouth. And he's up to let you go don't turn around and she's like a K turnaround. And he's a flog. And she she's like, it's you and he's like, yeah. Giving you buddy give me the money. She's like, no. We didn't do it. She runs back and she's like foxy other guys Mitch is blackmailing me. And so then foxy rob attacks Mitch at the store the next day. They're palm Lynn there tesla, and that's why they're fighting. And that's why it looks to Riva like when Mitch ends up in a box with the knife in his back. She thought it was foxy, rob. But actually, it was the dad that head of security data again get it again out like to protect his son again because he because he found out that Mitch was trying to blackmail because he this man does not know how to protect his family. No, he's very bad at it. And also like they are not good at keeping secrets from him. Because they're like this is the plan didn't didn't like montage theft movie like heist movie montage. And they're like laying out the plans talking about it. And the dad is like snoring in the next room to where he's drunk. He's not hearing anything, but I'm like don't take chances. Like, maybe just go in the bedroom door don't do that. I mean, and he wasn't hearing anything, otherwise he would've known son was involved, but but will take that chance. So and then later though, when they're like, oh, mitch's bug million and the dad's like right there, and here's it. Oh, right. And they're like, oh Mitch he's blackmailing us because we rub your they've really lay out to physician and then the dad's like fakes. Newry protect my family. I'm going to I'm going to that back and having to stick crate that has a big bow on it. Also that crates gonna get delivered to REBA because her name was still on it when rob was trying to prank her with a mannequin in the box out of all the pranks. I'll even one of them stick out to you as not like, the others. Did one of them is it for half the one where it seemed like a perfume bottle full of blood. It was the one that involves bodily harm to her purse. Why that to let go? Everyone letting that go also I couldn't stop. So this is the book where that Kelly talked about that everybody reminded her. It's the scene where somebody's stuck a needle in her lipstick. And she puts it on and drags the needle across her lips. And it says something like it took her a second to register the pain, which means it's d-, which means it's deep, and she was dragging it across her whole, and then just blood dripping down our Chen. This was also a foxy, rob prank. But that's an attack. That's literally like an assault. And and then she just. Could you not stop thinking about a giant scab on her lip? Honestly, here's the thing. She later on keeps like coating her scabby fucking lips with lipstick, and I'm like L. With mitch. Lipstick cab mouth. Okay. So she this happens at the break. This is the opening scene of the book the book, she has like fucking like leather faith situation. And she's she actually gets nothing. Here's the also like she's like, I'm so hot. And I'm like there is a waking nightmare on your mouth like visits, very bad. You look like you probably look like something eight your lap. It's a very bad. That is no joke when you put lipstick on you press. Yeah. And you drag. Yeah. Around the whole lips I think she only got the bottle. I think maybe but still but still it's like the whole bottom lip. She slide her this. Like the joker. So she's got this like it would have to be it would just be an open sore for a while. Right. It would be a hideous scall-. So I was like does she not get stitches like how bad is this cut? And why is she putting lipstick over it? You would not put lipstick over that. I you crazy. I am like it was kill putting lipstick over a scab lip and then making out with someone who isn't your boyfriend and getting caught by the girlfriend, and and then just like reading up a sexy. Thumb to white, but lipstick off of his mouth that you have just rubbed all over him with your scab the thing that was not let's say she broke that scandal. That's what I was like he was covered in my magenta lipstick. And I was like and also blood and also throughout the whole book anytime she was doing anything else. Like what's happening with the lips? The lips are a question. I couldn't they never get answered the, and she doesn't even mentioned how they feel like it's like, oh, I laughed and it hurt. I broke the scap yet every time like she's like I've been to a bagel and blood went everywhere. It's literally dislike she's fine. And then one time later in the book. She's like, oh, yeah. Like she was like putting on lipstick into just like. Oh, yeah. Slice my lip Boven earlier. Oh, well, it's healing nicely. And I was like it was covered into scout. No. Oh, the if you split your lip. Yeah. It's painful and splits over and over again. Yeah. Because it's hard to heal. Yeah. It's hard to heal at that spot. But and then like it never gets talked about the fact that he stuck a fucking needle in her lipstick. And that was his first press that was maybe the timeline is confusing. Confusing. But I think it is the first break. So it's the first like she ran for the book Chevra goes. Okay. So you didn't see didn't kill Mitch. I'm glad that you didn't kill Mitch. You put a needle in my lipstick. And I dragged it across my face, you cut me. That's not a that's you put a needle in my lipstick. Like, I would just be screaming that oh Yaron over the needle in my fucking lips. And then you, and then you followed that with like a thing of blood, and then like a mannequin in a box like, wow. Wire the pranks getting worldly deescalate yet. They're like like way less stakes heated heated, not take scotch classroom. UCSB? He doesn't understand you up. All the time heighten, this is shows run Manahan blood. Needle interesting twist mannequin needle member, she spills blood. Everyone runs away thing of her own blood. Interesting with a Nova. I've always liked yourself the best. Oh, I like that touch. But it didn't would he have been able to get enough blood. He dresses up as a nurse. Yeah. He drives a blood Bank van. Yeah. Into the department store cooking lot. It's the only arena in which she is carrying about other. Yes. So she donates blood, right? And he keeps it or he's like I have to attend to your lip. And then he disliked puts like the needle thing. Like, he's like I have to so it up, but he's just taking blood. So you like just takes a bunch of blood, and she's like what's happening late doesn't notice. And he's like it's being don't worry about it. Here's some juice and a fucking cookie cut. And then he takes it. And he's like, okay. This is like my prank later for my really good print. The pranks are not pranks. No one is doing apprai- no-one's pranking anybody here. Maybe the mannequin. A bit of a prank. The mannequin is a little funny 'cause you keeps getting geared by because that's a situation in which you're like faking her out. Yes. And giving her a jump scare I guess ending just sending someone blood is just a threat. Yeah. I mean, I guess it's like, ooh. What could this by non? It's just threat looks like blood when you see it. You're like that's not fucking blood. It's like viscous. Yeah. And you're and you're also like that's not fucking pain. But no one. No. And then oh, another thing. That's like planted is like, oh, there's like energy issues like the electric electrical problems, or like, it's shorting out a lot that comes back later because the way that Mickey's dad dies. I forgot this is how he dies. Yeah. So she's like. It needs like shooting at her. And it's like. Boulevard. She's like matrix thing, these bless shoes. And then she's like I'm going to run to the side of the like balcony looking in a mall or upper story. Also, remember his scab for live. She's like did you forget because I. 'cause you shouldn't. And then you know, she's like Alan my lip split again. And then he's like, I'm gonna get you. And he like dives. Which goes sailing over the balcony like he like, we said, he's not good at planning. Here's the thing. This is very stupid, not dive like this where it's dive anywhere anytime. No. You don't need a dive dive for safety. Sure. But not if get a person. Yeah. If I were revi-, I would've maybe dived behind some sure. But he dives dove. He died ended at her face, and she's just like and like bed down, and he's just like keeps going and falls on a big thing of Christmas lights all short out, and he gets fried. My co worker told me a story about how when she used to work to in a mall to portrait's of people that caricatures like no caricatures, but actual Marquette's and she had a couple sitting in front of her, and she was like finishing up on the woman. And then all of a sudden someone fell oh, fifth story balcony and splattered on the ground. Why like ten feet away from her like behind the Cup? So she was like right in the line of sight own like, I need just fell and it was just like blood and it like limbs poking out into fruit ways. And she said, but then I had to. Like, keep drying the guy. Oh my God. This person fell and the actual just cleaning crew of the mall came up to to clean up all this blood and Burson, and she's just like driving the man and the couple. Could God, that's horrible horrible. There was I just heard this story from one of my co workers that he used to live in this apartment and his next door neighbor during do you? Remember that heat wave in two thousand thirteen that was like it was like a yes at the time the hottest had been. So it's hard to recall a time. It is hard to recall a time when we weren't having insane. He waves. Yeah. But I do remember I do remember them. It was a fucking oven. Yeah. So that week his neighbor died and no one from his body for a week. And he was on vacation at the time. And the downstairs neighbors just heard the TV like with static for a long time. And so finally, they like it was like days they called and then place came and took him away. But he was a hoarder. No. Yeah. So then he like when he came back. He likes all that, you know, they were kind of cleaning some stuff out, and he just like went to go look at the window, and he breathed in. And he was like the smell was like unlike he was like, it was a wicked smell like he was like, he's like, you know, rotting chicken. He's a but deeper and I was like oh God. So then he was so then they clean the place up. They rented out to these to these two girls, and I guess enough time pass where they didn't have to tell the renter's someone died in this apartment. So they this is two girls spent a while then. Yeah, it took them a while to clean it up. So then these girls come and they're like very hardcore like pita vegans. And he's like we can't. No like, we can't tell them like they will freak out. They ended up moving out. Then there's these two new girls that come in. And they're pretty cool, and they start becoming friends with them. And everyone's just like we can't like I'm not going to tell them that someone died in there. Like, I don't know what to do. So they are just keeping it a secret for like a year, and then one of their other neighbors was like this couple who like they're always drunk and always fighting and just like very loud and boisterous and the guy was like drunk one time in walking around. And he's just like, hey, remember when LA that guy died in his apartment and the girls are like what is it? All someone died in your apartment random drunk, dude. Like telephone, hey, like someone fucking died in your apartment, and it was really bad. Oh, he's like I will never forget that smell for the rest of my life. Oh my God. Isn't that disgusting deeper deeper? He's wicket. It was we could smell. Yeah. But the body that is found in this book is very fresh soups soups, fresh in a bowl. Like farm-to-table? Table fresh. Do you remember that? Did you watch a top chef? No. So there's this one contestant that was like so racist. I really didn't. Like, I forgot her name. But good there was this outer be lost to time. Yeah. There is this Asian chef that was on the show with her and been really funny if you're like Thurs this Asian on the show with her. She wasn't Asian woman and she also cooked some Asian food. But this woman would this other chef contest, it would be like a we'll all she can do is Asian food like she can only you're Asian food. She's like, I don't cook. What did she say? She's like, I don't cook. Like any type of she's like, I don't cook. Like ethnic food. I cook farm-to-table. What? And I remember reading a recap that was like Hello, Honey, that's grocery shopping. That's not a style of cuisine. You think ethnic food isn't farmed. That you think it can't be you think that like when it began. It wasn't like farm-to-table. I don't cook. Like ethnic food. I cook like white food, which is therefore the base and universal and normal. Yup. Hey, you know, what there's no cooking in this book. There is helping. And you can eat. That's where we got our yet. Yeah. There's a table avocado did farm to pocket. Pocket. A little to go container. Oh, you can just keep it open right in there. You can do anything in it. But harking receive papers peepers steaks old gum like a popsicle stick I found on the ground late. You can oh you'd put fruit loops. Fruit. Loops if he kept pocket. Did you can tip the fuck? Oops. Okay. Helping you could do like bugles. You know on your fangs thank you thing. Bugles? Okay. Did it did it do it? We have an update on the topless woman. Oh, good liquor. Oh, hell. Yeah. Okay. So I was like I said, what is what was on the plate that the girl liked, and he goes, oh, it didn't matter what the food was or where we ate the example. I gave last night was in a tapas place shared plates in Chicago. And I said what kind of is it saucy creamy? He's cO sauce for sure, but she was literally do it with anything. I said multiple times he says girl. This is something that she did all the time and defended at just about every meal. My god. This is not good. This is really not good who raised this girl. This is really bad who raised her and what is their fucking damage. I'm going to bring back say what's your damage? Cordelia line. Yeah. What's your damage nineties line, very anti or did she say, what's your childhood trauma, your childhood trauma? I love that. Yeah. Very good quarterly had all the best lines. Okay. Are there any of their pranks that she pulls Riva? Let's see we had the prank of breaking up. We had the prank of job. Not that job. We had the prank of poor. Oh, so this is what she does to listen to this is part two of the prank. Oh, yeah. So she's like my break guy that is in charge of assigning people to work in different places. Make sure and she's like I'm trying to make sure that he can hear me that Mitch can hear me should make sure Mitch endless that are not in the same department. And then she's like, I nailed it and my lip is crusty. She walks crusty. I slept. Fucking killed just that everybody's looking at how beautiful me and my flaking bloody lip or. It's not yet scabbed, but it will be. We'll be right now it is fucking raw. It is like looking at a piece of raw meat on a models face. It's like slightly using it's like a fucking uncooked strip of bacon may face. Nineteen free strip of bagan on my apple wood smoked farm-to-table farm to table, not ethnic not ethnic. It's farm-to-table. What about farm-to-table doesn't make sense? So she's walking around with her pharma table lists. Like leaves? And then she corners Mitch while he's doing whatever. And she's like, hey, I really want you. And then he's like oh. And then she maximum really hard with her. Now, I would say it's like a creme brulee lip. It's made me touch my lip. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a just cracked creme brulee. Yeah. Creme brulee. It's like thin, but it's very soft underneath. Oh. But instead of like that like delicious caramelized sugar. Yeah. It's jank Asmaa gentlest. Yes. So it's like, it's that consistency. Yeah. No, no, no. Hey, no shame. They have owned when wild jewelry. I'm sorry went wild lipstick. It's that it's like it's the kind of like old old. It's been sitting in for like two years. And it's the kind that like no matter what it's on your teeth. Yeah. No matter rates, so slippery. Not staying in place. Doesn't look good. It's it's I mean what it's very wet. It's wet, and it's aren't be top of a pretty wet scab. A new scout. It's either wet it like in places. It's what in other places. It's so dry. Extremely dry. And maybe the scab is sake. Like, it is 'cause 'cause like it's you can't get something to stick naturally. You know, you are it caning the scab the paint. Now, the scab just as magenta. Yeah. It's not coming off. And every time if she like moves a little bit, it'll crack and then blood starts coming out. And then it's again, you have to wait for it to dry. So you have to kind of like, Pat it dry and then like kind of like. Got it dry, and then you have to daintily just gently put on more lipstick. Because if you do it too hard again, you can't just take the tube and drag it across no, no, no, no. That's how you got in this situation to begin with. And you've learned hopefully, so probably not Ravea. You rub it on your finger and you like dub dub dub dub dub on the scab. Here's the thing, you're falling. Nope. And then also like, it's not just blood either. It's just that that like clear. It's it's very bad. It's just like an using sore. And you're also layer is this coming as so fucking hiring. Now, I definitely getting Mitch away from list. She's like, I am nailing it. She's just. Oh. To ride broken open who's ings muddy lip and listen over. And she's like she's like she actually what did she say? She's like, well, you should whoa. I what's great about. This is that none of this get said, you just know because that's helps gaps work. Yeah. No. We don't have to. None of doesn't have to tell us, which is I think to his credit. Yeah. Thank god. Because that would be over describing I'm sorry. It's may would not make berry. Oh looks very similar though. Very very similar can't. Yeah. Are you looking for something or whatever you're reading them? Like, it's like oh sorry. What? I was looking for this our whole name to him. I can't say it on the show. No, you obviously can't souffle name. Okay. It's. Eclair? Okay. I works. Pretty well. Show me, no. Eclair sugar declare honeyed. Eclair sucrose sucrose. Yeah. It classy crows peppermint. Oh, I know Eclair sucrose poss- closer Costa pause. Okay. Eclairs across the path which is a very different individual than on TC fly very different. Yeah. Because she's like salt of the earth. Like, I'm gonna lick. My damn play soup would never I don't think she has a tough. Or if she does it's very small like a little bird. Brent only looks up apple dishes only apple dishes, apple a tiny tiny. It's like an apple pie. She'll lick up the apples. Yeah. Apple goo, apple GU that just reminded me that I have to bring something to the holiday work potluck tomorrow. No one when I'm brain Costco-sized applesauce tiny spoon. People at work do know about on T souffle, but not enough of them for that to be. She one time we went to dim sum, and she couldn't wait for someone to come even though there's like carts all around. And so she liked daintily got out this little it was not even as it blocked by it was like the sandwich fold over bag. Oh, no of peeled, grapes. The peeled grapes things too much. It's too much. And then she ate like one and a half one in little bites. And then like so crinkly rolled it up. Critics rolled up so crinkly very loud. And everyone's just like, oh, and then put it like gently into her big diaper bag. And the time no babies around Novi said, I'll put it into big babies Nobis Nobis big day per bag. And then demanded that we order like the most expensive thing of dimsum and then like eight like a sliver, and then it was like this. No, this is too spicy. Couldn't eat. Of course, it was to spice onto you. We only souffle you only fruit. All you eat is apple cheeses by for you. Chatters ours. This cheddar so shot. I don't like goodness. Could I could I just could I just want you eat the chitter that sounds like an issue. That's always a museum. She. Yeah. Interesting woman. Yeah. Very interesting. Okay. What else happened in this book? Anything we got. Yeah. Well, Michael wanting to go see Santa I will say the way that Riva figures out that rob that foxy, rob wasn't Santa at that moment is pretty clever in its own way. She takes ankle to see Santa because her her brother has been asking to. She finally does and Michael goes up and sits until Santa his wishlist, and he comes down. And he's like that wasn't the real Santa. She's like how does you know, that's one of Santa's helpers, but like how did you know? He had a fake stomach who was a pillar. She's like, well, it's a Saint helpers real Santa, blah, blah, blah. And then she wakes up in the middle of the night. She has like a now he's in the red room. Yeah. Exactly. Right. And because she realizes like, oh, rob foxy, rob didn't need padding. Yep. Because she hadn't made fun of that. Yep. And so she realizes it wasn't foxy, rob. And therefore he doesn't have an alibi for where he was when Mitch got stabbed in the back. But then he does later because it turns out he was with Pam because she's like he's my boyfriend foxy, and we were talking. What do we do just talk? She was crying like. Yeah. She was upset was talking the whole thing. She wrote like a door. So here's the thing. If I were foxy, I'd be like who the fuck are these friends? Don't hang out these people. I think both foxy and Riva think that. Yeah. I mean, foxy does say something to her about it. I think and she's like, well, you're you're working so much. And then re was like, she should not hang out those burnout when she does go ahead while I was just saying when she first said that I thought she's being bitch. But that's exactly what I was. Yeah. Is it I it's like God you're such a bit tree. And then later, it's like, yeah. You need to get away from these guys burnouts. There's like I'm just picturing them as like a little crew. And I'm like, ooh. Close like shoplifting. And he gets a scheme to rob a department store. Yeah. Come on get out of there. They're just like even then make is just troubled because he. Has an alcoholic father who just job needs. Mickey intervention. I think here's the thing. I mean, they both need intervention. But I don't see clicking with clay Mickey if we take clay out of the situation out of the equation. I think it's fine. I think they're good friends. And it'll be fine clays about element. Clay clay is clear three. He's in a bit of a yawn. He's yeah. He's close. Not is not good. Not good. And I know that he has tempered stable he's not stable. It's not just like show want you hanging out with him. Yeah. He he choked. A man he attacked seven eleven cashiers brandishing a gun. He's not he drove the car at ninety five miles an hour to run away from the cops. Like, he's not even though like all you had to do was go. Oh, right. Jalapeno dip you forgot. All right. Or like, you got me. Yeah. Or literally just throw it down and run or just even if you wanna steal it just be like run and run. You don't have to assault the cashier. No that's not normal shoplifting somewhat normal. Yeah. Assaulting seven eleven cashier. Abnormal abnormal? I'm normal anything else on this book. I'm really glad I forgot the foxy is rob. I'm. So it didn't didn't price me. So here's right there with you boxy is rob will. So for me. I'm rob is foxy is for me I remembered, and then so I bumped. But here's the thing reading it. I wondered I'm glad that it surprised you because like I wondered like because I knew I was like is this obvious. Or is it not it wasn't. That's cool. It's sometimes having a truly terrible memory has its perks. Yeah. That and like being able to just watch seasons of great British bake off over and over again. Yeah. I don't remember anything that happened. I got a pleasure. Just again in again, I just watched them over and over again. And like just let it wash over me. Even though I've like, I know who wins and stuff. Have you been watch? Did you watch the new holiday ones? No because I was catching up on the beginnings. And then I was catching up on the final season that's out outside of the holiday. I got to ward can to finish the beginning season. It was like they hadn't figured enough out yet. Like, I wasn't getting anyone's personality really the carpet was unacceptable. The carpet was unaccept- dark green. It was not good Mary berry and Paul Hollywood were boring. The critiques were boring Mellon sue were in silly. Yeah. The. Paul Paul's facial hair in the newest season, not Holly not all day Hollywood day, not hot holiday. So he sometimes has his goatee, but I like him better with a beard. I like the beard. Yeah. I like a beard ago t seems like no don't do. They why would you do goatee? Don't enjoy. Here's they're saying some people can pull it off. If you're somebody. That's like dang. I have a go t I feel bad. Maybe you pull it off. I have never seen someone pull off goatee. Do you like iron? I mean, that's specifically a joke him having a goatee is a joke. And it's also like from the comics like it's like an ESPN that like the character dead. What about Lin Manuel Miranda? I just. Spat? All over. Weird talking. We're talking about. Day. Snorted so hard directly under the Mike. I couldn't keep a straight. Here's the closest and it's not even a full goatee. It's the lake. Under the Lopez soul. Patch? Trenton Doria, okay, that's a cartoon hottest exam. Donald example, hottest example. I'm trying to think. Yeah. I think I just prefer like a uniform. Look, it's I love beards bigger guy has a great with beards my boyfriend has a beer beers or great integrate. Goatee some weird about them. There's something something like there's an aggressive energy and aggressive and yet also saw energy. Yeah. Here's the thing. Another another thing. I am not completely on. It would depend. Giant mine chops. If you're like a steam punk guy. Okay. Okay. Okay. You live in a romance novel. Okay. Maybe. Okay. I've I've got it. Okay. Lin Manuel Miranda with mutton. Oh, men Wilmer at a with mutton chops in that number for Mary. Don't do this money. And he's wrapping. He's wrapping. The Jabber walkie. While there's shots minorly interested audience members. Okay. Okay. I'm going to see that Aminov raise you. Okay. Chinstrap? Like. She's like shar cut like just like. Yeah. Like like one air. He's like a shadow. One one one one one. That on well. With money chops round me number in that number on Ellen on good Morning, America. And it was a clip from the movie it wasn't even like he was doing it live. It was a movie, and then they cut to like these older white ladies. And all of them, just like, okay. Oh, okay. I thought COPA so embarrassing. It is it is. And here's the thing. I couldn't I could talented man could not figure out what the story was. I was having to concentrate so hard, and what I think the moral of the story was is if you're dumb, don't even try to get smart because it's not who you are. Here's the thing. I think a big part of why I was cringing so much is because in all of us. There is a theater nerd. Oh. Yeah. I mean, it's holding a mirror up. Yeah. And so you're just like I don't I feel like I am doing it yet. I wash it. I feel like it's me I'm watching. Yes. And then I'm like, oh, no, I admitted nightmare mortifying. I can't stop own ping. Speak wrapping and like like hand stop slam slam slam. Mary Poppins mood, a bright purple suit and like running up and down on sometimes do. Sometimes sometimes I'm caught me. And sometimes there's a penguin. And all these white ladies to me. On a to DC on it tutti. Duties? So this is the thing talented guy, really Konta guy, so talented, so driven driven. So. Buddies, really smart. So smart, and like an I admire him greatly. I. It is not for me. It's just not for. It's just and here's the thing. It's not great. I love that. Not gonna you're not gonna yuck. Your yum. Not gonna yuck. Your win Manuel. Miranda young. I just don't need to just there. While you watch it. No not. No. Thank you. But thank you, so nice. If not, yeah. No way in hell. Thank you. You're so kind so so thoughtful. Yes. And I truly appreciate. Yeah. I'm sorry. So sorry, so sorry. I'm so sorry. You're so nice. And you're so kind I just in no way would accept. Yeah. I mean, I honestly thank you for thinking of me. I I so appreciate it. But like over my fucking dead body. Yeah. Like, I just wanna say, you're such a good friend. I mean, I I just want to say that. I you're such a good friend. And usually your gifts are amazing. No, absolutely. But I please tell me you got the gift receipt place only got really seat truly like, I know everybody loves Hamilton. Everyone loves loves it me. Maybe here's the thing. The only version of Hamilton. I've ever seen was the day after I broke up with my boyfriend and five years bootleg version. In a version where the guy had to keep hiding his camera when people clapped. So what a great experience for me personally for me. Now. Here's the thing though. Great good for you. Oh, wow. Yeah. I'm so happy that you got to be an audience member at. Yeah. Good Morning America here to take that away from you. But it's just that if I have to hear the opening song or the song about him not gonna not gonna miss his shot. I will kill myself rather than experience another morning. We're that stuck in my head while I'm trying to get ready. Here's the thing. He's a genius. He's a genius. But he's a gene on your blood on his hands. Linneman while the no killed. He is responsible for that. He's responsible for great art. And also my death. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And for having and I'm but I'm glad that you like him. Yes. Oh, yeah. Don't wanna take that away from you know, I don't even want him to stop working. He's great. No, he should keep making thing. And he breaks no one is people. All I don't know. What it is that like it just doesn't click with me. It's the slam poetry as Mary Poppins music. I think that maybe is I can't I can't deal with like also. I'm not sure that I know enough about it. But it feels like an insult to the history of slam poetry, oh to take it and turn it into what he has turned it into. I think he is rapid because it's like a. Here's a here's the thing. It's debatable, wrapping. It's it's hard to as wrapping and one might refer to it as such. And he's a good songwriter. And he's a smart really talented musician. Yes. Great. I I was looking forward to seeing that movie. And now, I'm not sure that I can maybe you go to the bathroom during those parts any Bart where he's on the scrap go to the bathroom. Well, I can't he's not compete based on her rap singing, the whole time is he is he Kelly came. I guess of his lineage the one, right? It's just the one right? Is it just the one Mary Poppins? I'm gonna look at pictures images. I think he was mostly know he's he is. Yeah, he has like scuff scuff. Yeah. He's a cute fella. He is. He also looks up into the right? A lot in this. Maybe that's as good side. I was watching Arianna grantee videos, and that is a girl who does not enjoy looking directly into camera now, she likes look out of the corner. Yeah. 'cause she likes her ponytail Shawn KU peak press. I assumed she thinks it makes her look taller. Oh, maybe that's why she weren't really high anything. That's why she worked at ears. 'cause she wears also giant shoes. She giant shoes very small very very small big pipes. Yeah. Big pipes. You see the video. Yes, this good. I liked it. I liked that song that looks. So we've talked about almost everything in the world. Any final thoughts on this book. Overall. I liked it me too. I like this one. Yeah. I liked how much was going on. I I was I would get bored during the Pam metoo apart. I I was really hard because honestly is much as Rivas a bitch. You love to hate her. And I would rather have just stuck with her. Yeah. She's like season two or Delia. Yes. Season one Cornelia. Maybe before she starts dating Zander. She's like season two ish because you're also getting collapses of her ping is that may you at the end for one she's like one into two. She has one thing that Julia does not which is fucked up lamps just just sliced diet. How long is it gonna take to heal? She's going to have to not talk for a while. I think she should. Yeah. And south putting lipstick on it. It will heal much faster because the mouth is one of the quickest healing areas in your body and your face 'cause it has it has you need it. Whereas like your foot. Oh my goodness. Could take forever could take forever. You're stepping on. It all the time. Judge. No judge GOP next week. What are we reading? What were you gonna say? What's your oh? Oh, I was just gonna say final thoughts from you. But you had said I enjoy it. I enjoyed the book I liked it. I read part of it in the bath. That was very calming. I was just gonna. We are taking a break next week. Yes. For the holiday. Yes. And there will be a like forever. Don Clinton, which is gonna be real income owner that and then fucking eggs. Okay. Inking Nick inking. Oh shit. We are doing a lights out by RL Stein. That's what Phoenix covers. Yeah. It's a good one. It's a good cover. Really good cover more Stein. More stein. I wonder if that was going to be good. Oh, I at the on the back of this. Wow. My brain his bio at the end of this book and my nineteen Ninety-one copy. It lets us know that he is currently the head writer of the children's TV show Eureka's castle, which is the thing. I had forgotten. 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"To televise. Streaming. Of Car hello everybody and welcome back to streaming. In place. Today, we are talking about the legend of Cora book three change episodes, seven and eight original air benders and the terror. So our main story is the terror within but first we have a little standalone ROMP. I would say with originally air vendors and my you. This is how I know that my experience watching the shows with y'all but also watching those by parents has been a positive positive for for my quarantine bubble. My mom I, think is this close to buying a stuffed animal APPA they've started showing up in her feeds on her social media and she's like Oh look it's like it's from the and she's like Oh that looks like it's really soft. I'm like Allison has one knoll has one. Yup they're very large. It was like, well, if you want one like I, don't like they're very huckabee'll there a hungle size which is important? So so goodness knows I was all ready for A. A Air Bison like focused episode. Elson, what did you think as you as you hug your up, what did you think of originally vendors well first of all I just kept yelling baby air by said over and over and over again. All my God. Marquez. Has Anyone made one to scale yet and I like weird. You keep a to scale stuffed airbase. Maybe to scale stuffed baby air bison. Okay. Maybe maybe you see the scaling of these gifted to a baby and that it'll seem like it's in the right scale. So like next the baby, it'll seem huge. Yes. Yes. If you assume the baby is an size exactly yes. Then you then you scale. Of Hustler options there so many. Yes. Yeah, and then it would be useful for three weeks before the baby grew out of that scale. Yes. Grab they're via. Very cute. Yes. Very cute. Almost makes me want to reproduce. Like it. Just an incredibly cute idea I really liked the original air benders even if it was not a bad boy band which I was trying to figure out where I got that job and I realized, I think it's from a lyric from no diggity by Black Street. who I I'm not sure I would call a boy band. Anyway they're not avoidance however, they did form camaraderie come together as a team. This one was satisfying because it just hit. So many tropes in a really efficient. Fresh. Feeling kind of way. It was all very comfortable and familiar, but just really well done i. just really it's sort of the epitome of one of those episodes where you like this isn't anything particularly special, but it's definitely an a like it's just exactly what it is and it does what it does very well, I enjoyed the hell out of it. Noel how about you was fun revisiting this one yeah I think that's I think Alison hits the nail on the head really well is that it doesn't do anything particularly fresh and in some regards. retreads a little bit of tens anxieties from season from to a little bit and his. His ability to inspire terrible trained. But not be a great trainer himself, but also the limits there in. But I think that the other thing about it is is what just what else instead is that? So very good and very silly and very funny and it has baby Sky Bison. And it just checks all the boxes about this kind of really kind of comfort foods sort of episode of Yeah we've seen all this before. Of course, there are poachers. Course. The Earth Queen wants exotic meats, all this kind of stuff that you're just like, yeah. This whole tracks and none of it feels novel but the entire execution of is so well done. That you just go. Yes. Yes. This is a good way to spend twenty two minutes. Yeah. It was really it was really fun episode and like you? said he is the stuff that we've seen before. Yeah. Do I care? No because they didn't well, I'm here for training montage. I'm here for you. Know you know the one more one team member gotta get over the last part of the obstacle course and they just can't. But now they gotta pull the gang together. Gosh. Darn it like yeah I mean, yeah there's a reason it's an older works. It's a, it's a trope for a reason. Having throwing a top of that the continuing thread with Genera about like hey. Dude I'm an air air bending master. Obviously, there is only one of them in the world. Let's be very clear. I should be the second one. Come on. You're being a bit of a Dick About this dad. Was You know, I think there was an appropriate way to feed into that the as far as getting us a little more connected to our new air vendors I. Think it works really well, and then just you know slots baby Bison airbase ends. Now, airbase. 'cause I'm I'm channeling high here. So now we have a reason to like. Kai. Even. If he does have bad grammar. And yes he's a lovable scampered. Nora has a crush on him and everything and apparently there it's. He's her boyfriend which. Is Not ready for but but the watching the fight scene I think it works really well. As appropriate level of stakes severe bison like I. Mean it's all very good I. It was delightful. It was Super Fun I was very here for it. Marcus asks same question that. I was wondering where the Bison parents were the babies were stolen so that clearly they they waited for them to go get food or something or you know, and then you know grabbed them up real quick and if in case you weren't sure when they start ramming the truck, it's like, yeah I wouldn't WanNa piss off a skype aisin, skype in Mommy and daddy that would be bad So I've felt this did a good job of showing us you know what? Sky Bison are like these with some of the dynamics are when they're not. primarily known to us as the good friend and or pet of a main character. So like you know, you can tell opera hey OPPA, please stop. You you're not tell these bison to stop and there was an appropriate level of stakes and. The they're about to give. To, the appreciate it. Markets also says drawer was in a cage with an air bison baby. So I was wondering about her saving the Bison First Statement. That's true. Saves by she could protect that bison though like if they if something happened she could you know help that by simply other bison did not have a protector. So but yeah, you make a good point know any other thoughts on this one? I think the other thing to kind of take away from this episode is tencent's discussion with Pama about rebuilding the nation and the difficulty of convincing people to become air nomads which is something we've discussed off and on this season, but I think that. was just unaware of how you need to shift this idea of opening up the nation basically to allow new folks in especially folks who are semi being conscripted. So they don't go back to prison. Or like a private army So I think that that that discussion about you need to really do something. Tanzania. To really do something to make them feel like they're part of a culture and just recently. Stories at people isn't going to do it. That one era Acolyte, who answers every question? Is already all in you don't need to convince him. It's everyone else that you need to combat S- and I think that's a really good sort of thread for tens and and for the show think about in terms of what does it mean to basically revive a culture that hasn't existed for almost two hundred years. When you want to bring in like the actual people who are. A part of that culture because they have natural powers. Exploring with all that means is a really good idea and it opens up even larger discussions about like how the show positions like wait what is the whole deal with south? Who Medal Benders doesn't this film exclusionary? This is what we are sort of like enclave of very specific people living together. That's weird. Maybe we should think about that too which led leads into discussion about like Opel and she fit into that psyche given that she didn't seem to have any bending prior to becoming a vendor. So I think that there's a lot of really interesting things about culture simulation happening this season but so really some textual, which is arguably to the season's credit. Since, we've got cool baptized the season. Elson any thoughts found thoughts on this ups, Odor General Pitch of let me tell you the story by the guy from the start but the guy who didn't eaten at the end of story didn't eat some. Yeah. I I think that? This while it is revisiting familiar territory, this is just such a great ten episode because it's sort of wrestles with he's wrestling with his own insecurities and then finds himself unexpectedly confronted with Bubis and it's a nice reminder that leg. While there are no pov characters in the series we certainly get ten cents perspective on a lot of things, and it's a good reminder that the lens that we have and good for him that he can only see so much really but I specifically want to call out my favorite moment of the episode, which is also just one of my favorite moments of both series. I think which is in the fight with the poachers. When I am sorry I do not remember his name, but the air bender whose head is shaved because he thinks it's not optional seals the trap coming. and they go all matrix for a minute. It's not only an incredibly satisfying visual gag. It's just a really smart piece of writing because it underlines exactly what Penn tens in her talking about. It underlines a little bit of wet tencent and boomy talk about and that these things have to be a process and and that moment is sort of both right he would not have shaved his head. If he thought it was optional but he would never have discovered how useful it can be and started talking enthusiastically about what it did for him in this situation. And that's really gonNA make stick right like one led to the other. They are both in in a way right and that you do have to push it a little bit. But when you give people the opportunity to make discoveries and evolve on their own, that's where the real strong connection is. GonNa come from So that's the lake. Reading on what is essentially a very funny joke. Under other implications but I loved I loved that moment. Yeah. No superfund Marcus I, think hits the nail, the head tens and reminds me of accomplished professors who only teach they have to but they're not very good at it. He just wants to meditate and stuff and yeah so. I just wanted to research Oh, no one will pay me I have to teach. Okay. Here's a bunch of lectures I'm going to hand you off to the TA's. OMOLO MILLO THE TA? So. If you look to the right of you. Yeah. It's a very good analogy. The last thing I'll mention with this one is because we haven't mentioned it yet. I was looking over I'm debbie pulling up for these episodes and I realize we have not mentioned that Pama is by Maria. Bamford. Who we love at the television so you're Maria back. Just, in case I. Don't know how many more Panama Pama, centric episodes are gonNA come up in the run I don't really remember. So in case we don't say in future episodes. Maria Bamford. Great Maria. Bamford. Let's move on to our next though, and that is where we get our big like. Group fight and. Things are happening. We get the mystery and the reveal of Iway and everything. But for me, it's just all about the central fight scene and it's really it's really terrific and I just can't. I mean I don't remember if this happens I. assume it does I. don't remember if it happens but I cannot wait for when bullying finally metal bends. It's GonNa be great are good boys trying Elson author, t i. what did you think of the within? So exciting re at one of the. The terror within the terror with him. Is Crazy when that giant poll showed up. It. was really bracing. Reminded me a lot of some of the early great sequences in. CORRE NBA quieten Were in that it felt thoughtful felt like they were all actively problem solving, which is to me one of the marks of a truly great fight sequence in any medium If you can watch people sort of solving problems on the fly and and making the best of a terrible situation it was so satisfying to see sue and Lynn doing their thing together. That was really pretty great. Even if they backslid for a little bit there at the end, it was still an I'm sure they'll be quite a desktop about that, but it was still really nice to just see them together and doing their thing. And I'm very into Boland time. which is a lot like dame time my favorite time for basketball. Bowling time is definitely named time. That's great. He's Clutch Lynn is clutch. Big Thumbs up for me. I liked both these upsets a lot Knowledge think. So watching this, I was struck by just. Might my favorite thing about this episode in addition to the action sequence, which I think is really generally well done in Wilson rewarded while directive and has a bunch of really neat elements that pay off like that. That clutch shot that you mentioned that that Alison mentioned that Berlin does which is great. But the other thing I really really liked about it is that. Given how the fight works. The episode goes to great lengths to show that Sahira and his. Comrades. no-one to cut and run they don't try to make last stand. They don't try to eke out a victory. It's just now this is this is this is a lose lose situation. If we stay here, it's time to go. And that shows like a degree of restraint and professionalism in this kind of an organization that you don't often get with these kinds of like super villain team ops you get someone who wants to push the envelope but everyone's on the same page and I think that's just really scary especially for. Opposite someone Cora who's just like, oh no I'm going to go get them and she's like, no, you need a plan. They were clearly very well organized. So I, really like all of that and I think that the ways in which that the fight gets resolved to demonstrate to push them to that point of we've lost target it's time to leave as opposed to we're GONNA try to get her again. Within the same. Set piece basically. Just speaks to how clearly motivated they are even if we don't know what those are. So I really like on that that level of just kind of establishing a more even more character self than what we've gotten before with them when they do these sorts of operations. The other thing I really really like about it however is i. always involvement because up to this point, it's been like four for Weirdos in super prisons doing something but now. Someone else's involved and he's in on the plan. He's got a bomb. He's got booby-trapped Escape Tunnel. He's got all this stuff. And suddenly, this is a much bigger conspiracy than four people and that should be really scary but the episode really gently underplays that concept because everyone's focused here and figuring out the way thing. So this idea that there's something bigger play that there are more actors involved in just these four is a big deal I think but it's handled really deathly like I think and so I, really really like that aspect of it as well. And then yeah. So I think it's just really really good and I really like it might only sticking point. My only sticking point is I'm confused at how lava bending doesn't evaporate. Me was water arms like it doesn't make sense to me that she still has water spivey that fight because it seems very hot over there. Yeah. Yeah. There's that to consider that doesn't make any sense at all, but maybe speaks to the power of their lava bender that she's able to control the direction of the heat such that it announced does no no, he can't. He's. He's he's more brute force type he seems like the Brute Force One. On the crew. I forget his name hey on. I haven't up here somewhere or a gazillion. so He seems brute force. Yeah. You know you'RE A. So yeah. I don't think it. Exactly. It looks really cool. Yes. Margaret says I like that they won that the team Corre t maps are one. So often you have a fight against the villains at this point of the season, the villains win just to show how dangerous they are. So Nicer version therapy also had some nameless benders actually be effective which I noted as well, Marcus and then Martinez. As soon as they said, it was an inside job I immediate thought it would be the guy who can sense the truth in will be the key figure in finding the traitor So here's my thing about I. At the end of the episode and I think you make an excellent point that this highlights that the hearings group are smart they're. Smart in their patient and that is makes much much more dangerous and Cora is not a making the wisest choices certainly at the end of the episode so having. The only thing that she really knows about about sue is that she seems cool. She's a really good medal bender. And she didn't know that her number like two or three in command was a traitor and working against them so like maybe you should listen to. Lynn. The person that you know as good judgment even if she's been having some family issues around her sister. Is just so raw at the end the episodes yelling at my TV court. What note know what do this bad idea? Did you guys have any other thoughts about about this upset about. scary. I like I really enjoy the moment between varick and Monaco like it's nice to acknowledge exactly what a piece of shit. The has even if you remains really fun to watch The air bender detector was. Shot an bed into. It's very, very funny it reminds me of those things you see it. Tourist Traps in specifically in the provincial of Michigan, is what I'm thinking. But I'm sure you can find many places where it's like this is a country weather predictor. If it's wet, it's raining if it's called, it's snowing the you'll see it'll it'll be like a rope or a belter like. something, silly like that and it's goofy and whatever. It reminded me of that. you know what people buy. Specific Pool and I really appreciate it. You know what I'm talking now I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. I spent a lot of my childhood in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. I've been to every rural tourist trap that the State of Michigan has offer they sell a lot of this Nolan thousand said. Not. Just thought it was the last episode that aired on TV, which is a great way to go out like a solid episode to never be back on TV again for the rest of the season on. But yeah. So on that elegant transition, why don't you tell us a bit about obviously I know about this 'cause I was watching we were watching it at the time. But Allison sure. Many of our listeners do not know about this. So what? What was going? Okay. So let's like I need about all the way up to like the sort of this sort. This season is that. Book three got a big flashy cool trailer. A week later nickelodeon like it's coming out. That trailer did not have released eight. It was just a trailer There was no COMECON like build up for like they've been they had been doing for the first two seasons. And then they're just like here's a trailer the next week it's going to come out with three episodes and we're going to episodes week and all of that is because maybe because Monday nick nickelodeon Spanish spanish-language branch. Accidentally. Leaked dubbed versions of basically like the for six episodes book three. And they all ended up online where they were taunted gift. They got fan subzero quickly you could watch them on Youtube. They were just out there and main branch nickelodeon panicked basically pushed all out. As, quickly as possible to try to get ahead of that except kept happening. The absence kept getting leaked even though they were staying ahead of they were trying to stay ahead getting leaked anyway so that all kept happening over the cross across the first couple of weeks some season three. at this point Nickelodeon went yet your off the schedule just yanked it and there was no explanation. They're zero explanation for what happened for why they pulled it off. So Kinetico, and let's go Michael De Martino through their respective social media platforms like. It's not canceled. We promise it is not canceled. We will talk to you about it a comic con, but it is not canceled but it is also moving strictly digital. So you can only watch it on nickelodeon website or you can only buy up. Through your preferred. Digital platforms. So at the time, this was in like two thousand fourteen. So and on the nineteenth were basically the only place to buy stuff Maybe Google play I don't remember if that was up I, think it was up by then. Anyway episodes nine through thirteen the schedule didn't exist online. The reasons being people kind of assumed. One of three things I being nickelodeon cited ratings issue that the show just wasn't doing well enough to justify staying on the air. They'd already bought and paid for these episodes and book for was already like halfway through production at this point. So. We might as well. The other reason is that they were just they were tired of chasing episode leaks some just like screw it. It doesn't matter. We're going to minimize damage as much as possible and they're. So we're going to deal with about like the third thing I can't get into yet. We will know what the third thing is when we get to it which I think happens tomorrow. But we will get that third thing, but it basically amounts to weird content shift of tone that the show just becomes. Let's say a little more adult than maybe nickelodeon was comfortable with which leads to larger questions about nickelodeon not paying attention to this production in any way shape or form which either speaks to Nickelodeon lack of oversight or the fact that just. Trust cadets go di Martino to produce something that was going to be in line with nickelodeon brand standards, and then they kind of went a little dark. A little intense, but we'll see that I think next. I think we see that tomorrow 'cause this was upset eight, right? Yeah. Yes. So I'm talking about episode ten I think. So we'll see you'll. You'll know what I'm talking about when you watch. But all of this is to say that Nickelodeon just pulled it. And this continued into book for. where it was only available digitally for half of before, and then like the last four to five episodes of Iraq actually on TV. It's a wild story in so weird but there are various conspiracy theories about why and everything, but it basically just amounts to. Nickelodeon, just what to do with it and then they cut the budget for season for. Two season production So. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah. So the assess it's a mess. I was I benefited from the fact that I had screeners for all three and I think almost all book work. So the shifted bother me that much. But for a lot of people, it was just like there is. No good way to watch it anymore aside from if you had regional. To calm. But if you didn't have regional access nick DOT COM to buy it, which is awful. So yeah, it's it was all very weird and it was all really really scary when it was happening yet remember when like, Oh, no, it leaked online was saying that yes studios worried about like I I at the time even I remember feeling like. You know that most people are not watching it online, right? Most people are just GonNa sit at their TV and watch. So like I know these game of thrones episodes leaked, but you're still going to be the highest rated show on TV on Sunday. So why are you freaking out about screeners? I mean I don't know do you have any thoughts on this? Feel like maybe I should wait for whatever the third thing is. I, really don't think that the third thing influence their decision making all that much but you can see how it would have. Okay. but I really don't think it was that I've literally think nickelodeon was just stressed because the US were getting the episodes two early. On. An were watching it with commercials. which is weird because when you watched, Nick Dot. com there were fewer commercials. And you still had to pay, you still have to pay back the money to the advertisers because they didn't get the slots that they paid for. I, mean. It's I feel like I shouldn't. You know be looking at this through lenses of now but it because. They're not oracle's can't blame somebody for not knowing what the future is going to be lake. But at the same time. Wow is that a misread You know. it's hard not to imagine that the show would be much bigger and more profitable for them. Now, if it had more legs when it aired initially like obviously it's having a wave right now and it's getting that Netflix's bomb which is great but it is hard not to think that it wouldn't have been a bigger bump. Only, add just done right by the show. In the first place we have if people the more people who watched it initially the more he will go. Oh i. What I was GONNA. Show it to my like and get the Netflix's bump that way, which is what's been happening. So yeah, one hundred percent alison yeah. Well it was just such a weird situation and one of the other things about it. I was just kind of struck by the fact that they didn't have any other way to like really like they just had their website because Viacom mom and individual individual like streaming platforms company based streaming platforms just weren't in the eater yet and you can just drop it on Netflix though I will say that books one two at this point were available on prime. Video through Amazon at least book one was So people could watch if they had a prime membership, they could watch that one for free But I think to came out sometime on prime for free at that point. But books three and four were never available on prime to my knowledge but books wanted to work which again, just really weird streaming license things that continue to this day. But at this point in time, we're just weird just really weird. Will Markaz wants to know so it was also one of the first five or ten streaming shows, and if you're talking about non independent or Youtube Kinda things as far as a a main show like A. Young was pretty early. Yeah. I think. So like I mean when you think about like house of cards, Hasek occurred premiered. Because I think I was writing about book three after I moved out of my mom's house. Pretty sure. That was twenty fourteen moved out then and so yes, it was probably one of those because like Hasek or thirty existed. I. Think Oranges didn't black had already started long by definitely already existed and been on Netflix Longmire my thinking Lillehammer. I think he's you yet look very different one about the like Western sheriffs one about that guy from the Sopranos going to Lillehammer. House of cards. Dropped in the beginning of February twenty thirteen. So yeah. So so yeah, Marcus was probably one of the first ones to be streaming only but in a very sort of weird way of thinking about it like you could argue that like some like it depends on how you want to find it because there are like those web sewed episodes of Astra Galactica that kind of comprised like a mini season but that was trans media storytelling that wasn't the pain So yeah, I think that's a really interesting point marcus that never really considered before and definitely core is not in that conversation about that kind of streaming history. In part because it originally aired on TV I, which is why we don't count. Hammer or as first netflix original. Because it was on, TV I for like a season or however whichever show I'm thinking of. That predates how you're thinking. You're thinking of Hammer I I'm pretty sure Well. Thank you for that information and that context Noel are you ready for our episodes for tomorrow? We're tomorrow. We were talking about chapter nine episode nine, the stakeout and episode ten long live the Queen so alison predictions. Okay well. I've kind of tipped my hand a little bit on accident. So I apologize for that get into your I'm not GonNa joke about that one. I'M GONNA I was trying to think about what would nickelodeon Not, want to air that someone could reasonably. About including Don't don't don't worry that too much like I had I was like what is talking about and it was like Oh yeah. Oh. Yeah. I could see how they wouldn't like that. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. I'm guessing that we get a character deaths. That's my guess in Long, live the queen live die et Cetera et however based on the title of the next one I assume this is going to be a lot like the sting and that we're going to get promised something really cool and fun and like procedurally, and then it's not actually going to happen. So I'm my perdition for the sting is that there will not be a sting. The victim of this out is that Monaco is GONNA be less. Yes my was so helpful. He was an actual cop in this episode he was my actually you know what? We'll spread the blame a little bit. We'll say that they're preparing for their stakeout, which then doesn't happen because Berlin thinks ooh i. got that other shot off I. I can give this out and jumps out of the place they're hiding in yells Bowlin time, and then hit somebody in the forehead with a tiny pebble. Came combustion vendors that doesn't matter. Yes Okay well, anything else you would like to. Know I feel like I'm too much. Okay. I'm looking forward to the conversation so I'll leave it there too, and tomorrow we'll talk about episodes nine intense. So thank you to Marcus for hanging with us today. Thank you for listening back tomorrow. I? Ice.
Week 12 Waiver Wire Pickups
"And. Go to the NFL talking heads fantasy football podcast show. Gary your hosts Jeff carrier Seth wall. Hello everyone. And welcome to the NFL talking. Heads fantasy football podcast show. I'm your host Jeff Kerr. He is set low my co host, and we are back for week twelve waiver wire pickups or maybe it's like a pick up if that or maybe a half a pickup. I don't know. I know that many two or three maybe two or three this might be a short and sweet episode at this time of the year hard to find people to pick up unless people have been dropped. Or course there was injuries. But I want to kick off Seth recording on a Tuesday after that Monday night game between the Rams and the chiefs. A lot has been made in terms of this shootout third highest scoring game in NFL history. Tesla tour last night was really exciting. I thought he was really trying to push this game. I don't know if that was just organic or not a lot of headlines read read one today that said on Bleacher report calling it the greatest Monday night football game in history. I want to hear your thoughts before giving mine where do you stand in terms of just the thoughts on the game last night? In terms of the accolades or recognition the game is getting in terms of media. Now, there's a little bit a little bit overstated. If I was I think it was a really good game. I think it was one of the better games. Maybe maybe the best game of the season. But the best game in Monday night football history. Probably exaggeration. I like high scoring games that are in the thirties. Those are fun. I love high scoring games last night was kind of like one of those manning games that you and I play where neither us can can stop the other person. And whoever has the ball last is gonna win. I know there's some turnovers mixed in there. Which did help a little bit. Like if there are no turnovers. If it wasn't for those turnovers. I would be saying it was a completely over rated game. So it was exciting. It was entertaining. But it just I felt like going into that game. Whenever you see a showdown like that between two arguably, the two best teams in the NFL, you expect to learn something about those teams, you know, win they're tested because they're playing each other. And I don't feel we learned anything new about those teams. They're both really good offensive teams juggernauts offensively and defensively. They're very they're more than Boehner -able. They're they're bad defensively. I mean, the Rams the Rams pass. Rush is pretty pathetic incinerating they have Aaron Donald Dhamma consume Michael brokers. Their pass rush. Just I don't know didn't do too much for me and the chiefs their defense is it's like cutting through butter. It's so ridiculously easy. So and if it wasn't for Pama homes. Couple turnovers at the end there in the Rams. I couple of defensive touchdowns probably been a little different. Just I we didn't learn anything new about these teams. I thought last night while it was entertaining. Just really didn't have there's something missing. I think it was just the idea that whoever has the ball next is going to is going to score. Yeah. I mean, I would agree with a lot of the statements that you just made just taking a step back and kind of going through point by point. You know, I thought that one of the comments of first of all this PIN crew can't wait till they're broken up and apart and agrees in I'll get on that in a second. But one of the things that was commented on was. And I think territory said, oh, you know, this game has had a little bit of everything they even had some big defensive plays. So the differences shown up in spurts. No, it's not how it works. You can't you can't feel score. Let's say seven one touchdown all game. But that one touchdown happens to be eighty are. Touchdown. You don't say that the often showed up that game. Do you? I mean, that's exactly how I review and analyze defense. The defense had some big plays that resulted in touchdowns Aaron Dole's be so year. So I'm not sure -gree with you him not being present. Well, he he he shows up every every. But I I don't know their their defense was supposed to be dominant come into the year. They added to leave when Odin play the added, Marcus Peters. They add in Adama consume the had Donald team has completed a full of complete studs and every single game. They're involved in this high scoring shootout like they should be blowing teams out. A lot of weeks they have been, but also because of their leads, you know, their defense probably plays a little differently than say, you know, an older generation team where they're playing more ball control were you know, in most of the Rams games. I think they said I forget which quarterback was but one of them had only thrown eighteen passes behind in the fourth quarter all season eighteen passes when they're playing from behind the fourth quarter all season. So that's the kind of lead of the Rams have had all season. But to your point I thought it was enter -taining. I thought because there was so much scoring and a lot of it was either broken plays or someone had fallen tire kill one for seventy three yards. Wasn't as you know. Like, I I don't watch college for this reason. So maybe if you like college, and you like these big wide open plays and back and forth scoring without any contestant. Anyone contesting anyone than than maybe this is right up. Your alley in terms of. One of the best Monday night football games that season and maybe the season for you. But for me, I thought it was entertaining for sure the game was close. But I wouldn't put it up there because it was just it was too much scoring every time. The team got the ball. You can never really rely on the Melissa had a big play. And I don't I don't count a defense having strip sack fumble as showing. Agreed. We when you get fifty points. And I also I also don't call that interceptor Marcus Peters like a make him making a play. That's the ball like wobbling up in the air. And it has happened to be right to him. I don't give them any credit for that either. I mean, they did get to Pat Mahomes on those last couple drives and really make his his life difficult. And we saw Jared Goff gets act if you times, but I don't know the Rams defense. I'm just I it's gonna be hard to stop them in the playoffs, which why this team is so dominant as how do you stop them? But at the same time the only held two teams to under twenty points all season long, and that's been San Fran and Oakland two teams with zero offense. So when they've played the good teams like new Orrin forty five points, Casey, forty five points thirty one to Seattle twenty seven degreen bay thirty one to Minnesota plays the twice thirty one points each game. Like this team can't stop anybody. And it's not even like, I know part of it is they get up or they've always high scoring games. Or maybe depends pays a little softer. But I don't know. I don't look at the Rams as a defense that I'm really worried about they're not a top defense regardless of win. It is whether it's the first quarter second third or fourth quarter. They just they just don't get a ton of stops. They got bailed out because they're an opportunistic defensive had four defensive touchdowns on the year. But I don't know. I just talked to stop them. But to his point he says, there's a little bit of everything. No. There was a lot of one thing. And that's offense. Lot of offense. I agreed. And really knowing me at the end there within if really kind of caught onto this or not but bulma final at the end with Todd how wrong that the Rams were playing it. The chiefs had three time outs. And the the punt the ball back with one. Oh, four laughed, and even if they ran the ball, and or even through it and completed the past they still had another time out and they're going to get the ball with over a minute. I mean, the Rams are trying to win the game. You know, everyone's going to chastise Mike McCarthy the previous week for punting instead of going for it McVeigh's trying to pass the ball because look at the score against the chiefs, Pat, Mahomes, he just needs one first down to lock up the win. They have three timeouts. I mean, they have to do something different than just maybe run it. I mean, maybe they could run in. So get a first down. But I hate how I hate the comments from Booker there too. I just feel like this whole cast is. Never bringing enough. Good information. I don't know it. Just the analysis seems off. Yeah. I don't think anybody disagrees with that. Seth before we get to the waiver wires. I was pulling the attendance of for the twenty eighteen season here. There happens to be seven teams with one hundred percent or higher. Attendance. And I'm assuming the higher of one hundred percents because they're selling standing room. So would you like to take a guess on these seven teams Kansas City? Nope. Say this question because it's like as. I mean, it might be a little bit of a dumb question. Denver. Denver is one of them. Green bay. No New England. Yep. Buffalo. So I guess. Just minnesota. Minnesota's and no, okay. All right. Let's just tell me clearly on the right track. Miami. Which is just baffling. That's gotta be a typo typical Florida you need to recount that. San francisco. Denver Seattle New Orleans. Philly in New England the worst shit got Seattle. Yeah. The worst team. Yes. This three teams under eighty percent Jacksonville. No. We already know that can't count Florida do. So all right. Three teams. Let me. Yes. Three three worst ones. I'm gonna go with the the Rams. Big I'm guessing that's why. 'cause they're averaged counters at seventy two thousand. Just like Dallas AL's ninety thousand ninety percent necessa so big. I mean, that's that's much bigger than the New England's at one hundred percent. Because those stadiums are just huge are Tennessee. No, okay. What do the other ones are just laughable because they're not even that big stadiums. Poor fan base Cincinnati and Washington. And watch it pretty big pretty big stadium. But still like they're seventy four percent of the worst in the entire. NFL interesting. Well, that was a fun exercise. It's kind of good to see like, you know, like, which fans are still showing up. The fact that the Miami Dolphins are that high is mind boggling to me all it was probably more like a tourist city too. So you have a lot of people that are in Miami wanna go to a dolphins game down there. I don't know a lot of these dolphins. These dolphins fans are everywhere. We you and I are both friends with a major dolphins fan. I work with another major dolphins fan, and they're they're definitely die hard fans. But yes, it's definitely not what I would not against Miami feel really bad for him too. So anyhow Seth let's get to our couple waiver wire pickups. Hopefully, you can enlighten us with some some magic here. Some magic players underneath the radar. So refreshing last week. I mean, let's start with wide receivers. Josh reynolds. Granted it was a shootout game twenty fantasy points. They game for him with with no Cooper copter. The rest of the season. I think Josh Reynolds is a slam dunk. Can't miss. You have to go pick him up if you somehow still available. So I think Josh Reynolds, great pickup, and then one player that I really like he's owned and forty three percent leagues. So good chance. He's available Taylor. Gabriel this week. Great matchup against Troy on Thanksgiving Day. I mean, he's been preseason kind of bloomer boss. He had a solid game against Minnesota this week. Seven catches fifty two yards. His previous three were kinda duds. But that's that's a high powered offense Detroit is banged up. And they are one of the bottom pass defenses in the NFL. So I love the matchup for Gabriel. I think he's worth a pickup as as a streaming option, or you know, your your last Fleck spot somewhere in there. And Trubisky is day today with the lieu of the late injury in shoulder, but they're expecting him to play so swimming that Trubisky plays also some should be go for the rest of that offense. Yeah. Tomato Trubisky doesn't play. So you're not starting Gabriel. But assuming Trubisky looks fine and is closed one hundred percent. He's playing I like Gabriel. He's still a player that you. You wanna probably pick up when your team if you've got some dropped as worthwhile. If you're looking to add a player, he's he's still someone to add even if you don't play him this week of Trubisky out for whatever reason another player in I comp with them in the same category. As maybe one player is DJ more Curtis Samuel. The Carolina Panthers hasn't good match-ups. Coming up Seattle Tampa Bay Cleveland New Orleans than they have Atlanta at home week sixteen which is fantasy football championship week for most leagues. DJ more coming off a massive game. Seven catches one hundred and fifty seven yards touchdown. Really probably a second or third really good game of the season. But he's a rookie. He's explosive. So I like DJ more and Curtis. Samuel is another player who is definitely definitely worth taking a look at as well he had a good game as well. So I like Herta Samuel and DJ more kind of risky starting either one of them because they're very run heavy offense. But Cam Newton has had some big games and courtesy annual in the gym more have had their moments at this point in the season with the players that are available. You know, you're you're kind of grasping at straws and Curtis Samuel has had three w games in the past five games. Five catches fifty five yards and touchdown. So with some of the match ups like both of them and Curtis Samuel ownership percentage. Super-low own three percent leaks. Yeah. I never really loved the Carolina players because you never know who's going to kind of have that game, especially with their types of their type of offense. But I think he made a good point, you know, for for both of them, especially with their match-ups coming up. In another player, the last rec- Roman unmentioned, I'm just gonna keep high mentioning every week from here on out Kobe's -ly a modest game against Atlanta. You know matchup. We really liked five catches fifty one yards. He did drop touchdown there in the red zone. Dropped a touchdown right through his hands. So his stat line. You know, would would definitely look a lot more peeling had. He just caught that easy touchdown. But is got Washington this week. Washington has been a pretty good offense. I mean, pretty good defense all season long. But Josh Norman is probably gonna be shadowing Amari Cooper. I like Koby's Lii in this game against Washington. Washington been pretty good against the run. You have Josh Norman who should be on. Mario cooper. And Michael Gallup. I believe is not playing this game in my correct met. He might be playing in this game. He might be playing this game. So something to monitor. But I don't think it affects Kobe's lease status one. You know, I don't really think it really affects my viewpoint on him. I still. Like him. So Kobe again, probably a different type of fantasy asset at this point in the season. Somebody who's going to go out, and he got ten points last week for fantasy owners, I expect more of the same, and you know, with potential may be getting touchdown. So. Yeah. And as a quick note to, you know, with with with thanksgiving here, you know, beautiful awesome. Thanksgiving NFL Thursday, which is just great. You just you don't help out in the kitchen. You know, us guys what ends up happening. We sit around the TV all day and wait for food to get served to us. We watch football and eat food. So what a glorious day. And what a beautiful day to maybe put some money on the game. Seth you already mentioned two players that are brought up to players in these games on Thursday. Our sponsor for the episode. Mybookie has you covered go to their website. My book dot AG and sign up with our promo code talking heads and Sino-foreign these games. Get in the action early this weekend. Not only you have the Thursday the Thursday night game here with an over under a sixty and a half. I mean, I heard Vegas got blown away on the over under on the Rams game. Chiefs game at one hundred five youth. What do you how do you feel about that over under set Lanta in New Orleans, sixty and a half? I mean, the need the pump that up even more wild. Yes game. Oh, yes. That game New Orleans looks like the most, well, I guess the Rams are are pretty dominant, but New Orleans looks even more dominant. I don't know how you stop the the saints at all playing a team that isn't playing the as an individual game. Which is the only is the only reason why maybe a chance that you'd have the that that has shot at the under on that. But it's hard to look at that on paper in in think anything other than it's going to be way way over absolutely talk about a nice day to a three-game par lay. If you're that type of person bet a little win a lot. You can go ahead and put pick those three teams C which wants to win. If you hit on all three you can turn a hundred into six hundred. And of course, there's a lot of things you can bet on any Chelsea. Going on and be as going on. And how about that Gulf tiger versus filled matchup. I mean, what is what is your take on that set? I mean, that's a new thing. I'm not a big. Yeah. I like I'm first of all in full disclosure. I'm not I'm not a big golf guy in the Gulf. But I will say that. I don't know why golf hasn't tried that belong time ago. That's kind of that's kind of cool the one on one face off to conic iconic names in the sport. Phil mickelson. Tiger woods. I mean must see TV. If you're in the golf, I mean, I'll probably I'll probably put it on for a little bit. Yeah. I'm going to probably check it out. I think the one big thing. I'm kind of curious about is. Is it easy to you know, you're you're on the front nine someone's going to get a clear lead? And it's gonna be kinda hard to overcome it. I have no idea because typically with those turnament that kind of match up people depending on how they're doing throughout the Termine right through through the four days versus just. One off where they both start off. You know, even so gonna be very interesting, but something per be pretty cool to put some money on. So check out my bookie online and use promo code heads. H E A D S. And Seth what is what is next for waiver wire pickups? So I mean, there's a couple others. And I know we didn't have a ton. I'm just throwing out of town names. I don't I'm not in love with with too many of these aside from like the Josh rounds of the world or like, Danny amendola. I think Danny amendola. If he's still available is somebody worth picking up by this point. He should already be on everyone's radar but still only own forty two percent leagues. Like the matchup against the colts on Sunday. And he's just he's been an absolute animal last what three five games five or more catches. So they're banged up bunch as far as the wide receiver core Miami so loved any m Dollah as a slightly better version of a Kobe's -ly. So definitely Danny amendola. And the last one that I mentioned at the wide receiver position is KiKi Cudi. And I I don't even care if I'm pronouncing his name Ryan name wrong. I'm gonna continue to call him kike Kuti and he outplayed he nine targets on Sunday against Washington out Damaris Thomas, and he's healthy again. I mean, he was off to a pretty good start of the season kinda came out of nowhere there. It was injured. Who was out for a couple of games and he's right back on track. Five catches seventy seven yards. So I like kike Cudi as they kind of thinking a little bit down the road in the playoffs. He someone that they could serve your fantasy team. Well, definitely has some upside as we've seen earlier this season. So like he Kuti that's all I got for receivers. What are your thoughts? Yeah. I like Kuti I mean. Was there not to like about him? I mean, he's got a cool name. He's done. Pretty well. In the games that he's played definitely much more of a kind of p PR kinda guy probably better in those types of leagues, but we mentioned a few weeks ago to and then I know he went down with an injury. But and then after that will fuller went down. So he definitely became even a better option. And I actually forgot about trae Quant Smith. I mean, he's is his own thirteen percent leagues. Obviously a big game against Filadelfia. Ten catches one hundred seventy ours. Touchdown. I just this is a second huge game that he's had in the past six. I just don't trust him. I just look at Michael Thomas there, and you have the two running backs I guess on one hand is a high powered enough offense that you're going to have these types of weeks from trae Guan Smith as we've seen at least twice this season. He's just completely boomer bust for the most part. I should probably be giving him more love. Than I am. In a couple of weeks. We're in he is owned even though is overall ownership percentages only thirteen percent where do you stand on track? Once you put him ahead of Danny Madala, Josh Reynolds, which would probably be my top two that I mentioned so far. I would probably put them ahead of Josh Reynolds. But. Not Damon dole in a tricky thing with Damon Dollah to that. It'll be a little concern about is that Ryan tannehill is gonna likely come back. Now they've had more injuries. Since when Ryan Tanis was was you know, the quarterback at what indata at injuries at the wide receiver position since tannehill gone down. So that's just something kinda monitor. But overall, I guess I'd say I'm Nola then trick on Smith. It's it's tough. It's tough to really kind of ranked these receivers because Dan dole is completely different than Trey Smith. If you need the upside trade on Smith as proven the he can go and get you twenty five plus fantasy points because offense so powerful dole is not going to do that. But any I'm also not going to get less than ten points any week regardless of whether or not he has touchdown. So. Depends on your fancy team. I you know, I also in deeper leagues. I also think that that Kenny stills a somebody. I'm still holding out hopes for having a couple of good games down the stretch win. Chan he'll comes back. You're by yourself on that one. I'm trying to I'm trying to convince myself of that. But I mean thirteen percent for trick want Smith. I mean, I think that's still to Lowe's and ownership number agreeing. Agreed and I disagree. I know I know Josh Reynolds, I'm not really buying into too much into the twenty point fantasy game that he had last night because that game was historically high scoring, but I still think he's not gonna completely Phil Cooper Cooper cups role Cooper cops stud. But I just think what that offense as the number third number three receiver and in such a high scoring game. He play Robert woods. So I like Josh Reynolds. I'd probably put Josh bounds ahead of a head of. Trey Smith because I think he has the limit of the upside that trade wants Mataz with a higher floor. I think he's got the floor of Danny amendola with the upside of trade Smith so running backs not a whole lot to really love for running backs. Gus Edwards is would have to be on the list owned in less than one percent of fantasy leagues. Good game on Sunday for Baltimore. Seventeen carries one hundred fifteen yards and a touchdown. I don't know really know why they trade for time on Gumri. He's apparently still relevant and some of this. I think was was the game plan with Lamar Jackson against Sonetti. So it'll be interesting to see what Gus Edwards looks like with with flacco. Or even just if he can do this or any semblance of this two weeks in a row, but this point in the year when a running back does something like this and comes out of nowhere, definitely gets your attention. And he's the number one running back pick up this week. Yeah. Is there a reason that they haven't been able to look too much into this game because I refuse to look into the Baltimore Ravens? But here we go. Here's another running back. You know, we've seen this before last year with Alex down the stretch was price are two years ago with buck gallon there, and we probably saw it three years ago with someone else there. Is there a reason that gave him all these carries? A mean in terms of their other running backs that they still have on on the roster. I don't think anybody knows the answer to that question. These a lot of these teams, and we talk about the time. These teams is weird with running backs. You look at Philadelphia where the Wendell small was going to be the guy with when with no Jj in the lineup and this core commend and then now Josh Adams emerged. Conveniently for the segment Josh Adams is the number two running back. I have here own and twenty eight percent leagues. I you might feel differently on Josh Adams. I think we think you talked about him last week. I'm just I'm not touching a Philly running back. I'm done because no matter what Philly running back decide to play. They're going to burn me. And then when I don't play 'em one of them's gonna blow up. I'm staying away as a basic general rule. I'm not touching. Philadelphia running back unless they do it consistently in Josh Adams. This is first game in double digits back to back games with only seven carries. Just he's been remarkably efficient. I'm not buying into it. I am not buying the Josh Adams hype. But at the same time, I do acknowledge that if you need running backs at this point the season. It's slim Pickens, go pick up Josh Adams, just I wouldn't go. I wouldn't go crazy. I'd probably put Gus Edwards a smidge above. Yeah. No, I agree. I mean, I think we might have talked about off the air. But in actually mentioned on the air because of all the things that you just mentioned with the eagles running backs. Absolutely. Can't trust them. He was rookie, and he had kind of more the carry. So I kinda have brought it up to you. But your point they'll bring someone out of retirement before they give someone the actual full workhorse lead role out there in Philly. That's just their philosophy. That's how they done things. And that's all the continue to do things. Also, whatever get waivers. I'm in a couple of leagues where like I don't really want pick up any of these guys. And you know, I don't wanna do nothing. So I'm also a proponent of. Picking up a we're not big into handcuffs, obviously as a general rule, but for one or two weeks, if if you have somebody you can draw like Nelson Aguilar who has no upside sitting on your bench. I'm fine picking up somebody like Malcolm Brown, Malcolm Brown looks good. Every time. He's in the game for the Rams, obviously offense is a job or not. And if any happens at Todd Gurley Malcolm Brown, somebody that could completely just change the landscape of your fantasy. We completely changed the dynamic of your team and could be the difference in you wing championship or not. So he's that big of a deal. Same thing with the Jalen Samuels, Pittsburgh, like I am fine grabbing Alkan Brown in stashing him for a couple of weeks as long as you can hold him. Obviously, he becomes the first person you drop if you need to pick up like a Gus Edwards to play for you right away. But I'm fine taking Malcolm Brown, or, you know, another backup like Jalen Samuels. Like, we mentioned and. And throwing him on the bench. Yeah. Man, especially at this time of the year. We don't it's different when you enter the season when you're know you're going to be running into a lot of injuries and then buys on top of it at this point. You should understand where you are in terms of your standings, what type of team you have. Who's your starters weaken week out? You know, it's it's nice to have a couple of backups in case. But there's certain people that probably on your bench at might take two three injuries. To actually get in starting role. So maybe, you know, supplement one of those guys for a high upside injury play into someone that you aren't going to bring up, but it's, you know, sometimes good to mention the people that we should remind people to maybe stay away from with kerryon Johnson going down just reading a report coming coming out. You know, map Tricia, very confident in Zack zender, right? Like they're looking to replace carry on Johnson's twelve to eighteen touches and the game. We haven't talked about this. But I'm guessing on the same page where this is someone that we don't wanna get involved in here. This is just a just a minimal multi game absence from Karen Johnson. And they still have all the other running back still there. This has all the makings of being an absolute disastrous game for the Detroit Lions. I mean, Matt Stafford has been under pressure on sacked a ton the last few games, and they don't have Marvin Jones probably gonna be out. They trade away golden Tate. No, carry-on Johnson is only real. Viable threat to throw to is Kenny golladay, and I'm staying away from all the running backs gear blunt. If the ridicule somebody I feel a little bit differently about I would go in potentially pick up the Riddick because I think they're going to have to throw in this game. And theoretic someone they could see a lot of a lot of snaps but other than that. Yeah. I'm saying accent her agreed. All right. Let's talk about a couple streaming defenses. So what am I get your defense? I wanted to bring up the fact that just in terms of position players OJ Howard is being sent to our so Cameron braid is silica for tight end. I guess I guess he's an option now, potentially even more. So what a roller coaster season it's been for the buccaneers the bucks with the core back situation and the tight ends up and down OJ how we're starting to really have a good year. But so with ownership percentage, I don't really look at that as much with defenses because I think a lot of leagues people streamed events is so often some of these like I love the chargers defense this week against Zona at home with joy Bosa back so sign me up for them their own eighty percent of leagues. I really also it's hard not to like the ravens against Oakland. I know some of these are pretty obvious names. But one that's sneaky is buffalo. I like buffalo this week. Only owning twenty two percent leagues. They're playing Jacksonville. Jacksonville. Turns the ball over a lot eight interceptions on the year for Bortles four fumbles and Jacksonville has had several games in single digits. Buffalo's at home so a pretty safe game. If you're looking at a streaming option for defenses buffalo is a solid solid option. And right after it they play Miami. And then they played the New York Jets. And then they played the Troy at home week fifteen which could be a potential snow game. Whenever I'm picking up. A streaming defense guy always looked to see what their upcoming schedules beyond that week because I wanna get more than just one game out of a streaming defensive possible because I don't wanna have to drop them and then not be able to pick up defense next week. So I love streaming defenses to have multiple good matchups in a row and it's hard not to like Jacksonville. Miami jets, Detroit Lions foreign Roseau buffalo based on the ownership percentage as my probably most realistic option for a streaming pickup. And the over under is by far the lowest on the entire weekend sleep at thirty seven and a half. According to my bookie. So I mean, obviously, both even would work well here. So even Buffalo's much lower ownership percentage should be a very low scoring game. And one of the defense that I wanna mention only own forty three percent of the Tennessee titans. You probably don't wanna start a miss week. And again, I'm fine. Thinking ahead. This is where you wanna start positioning yourself for the playoffs. Now, you don't wanna do it at the expense of winning. Now, you should be able to do both. That's should be always be the goal. The Tennessee titans are playing Houston. You don't wanna start on this week? But the play the jets at home very good matchup Jacksonville at home again. Really good up in New York. Fifteen like, you probably want to stay away from that. I don't know but week sixteen this is what I have circled on my calendar. When I look at Tennessee titans that made sense circle to my calendar. When I look at the titans defense, but they play Washington at home on fantasy football championship Sunday championship weekend. When everyone is having the championship. Games for fantasy. They're playing washing at home with a backup quarterback potentially. Mark sanchez. We can only hope right? They're running back situation mean Chris Thompson is still battering is still battling the rib injury agent Peterson's out this week, and they just have no they're completely banged up. No, Paul Richardson James in Crowder, still out an injury that could be an absolute massacre for the Tennessee titans. Yeah. You mentioned this in our message in the talking heads nation there and our private group message. And I was like thanks Seth. I think I might have to you know, cherry pick that one as well from you for doing the research on that Washington year in year out. I don't know why they're up there with a couple of teams, but men the injuries have been absolutely catastrophic to them this season more so than others. But I mean every year it's like they got injuries at wide receiver and running backs and the only usually tight end this year, they're actually healthy at tight end. But without Alex Smith, you even have to say. Pending on the ownership percentage. I don't know where they're at the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, Dallas Cup was usually a pretty kinda sneaky stingy defense a net net. Get Washington at home on Thursday. Yeah. I mean, I tend to have a good defense period. Even regardless of who they play. You kinda great them on a curve in today's NFL when there's no great defenses. They've assault defense and the match grades at home. Every checks all the boxes. The us defense. I do want to mention is the Jacksonville Jaguars defense. Probably the number one defense number one of the top two events is drafted this year. Really struggled as a team. And you know, they've been sketchy to this point. But I look ahead of their schedule. And again, I'm looking at two games in particular back to back potentially who knows can have with Mary Ota with his injury. You're looking at potentially that same game. We're just talking about Tennessee in Tennessee, maybe with the backup Tennessee can't score. So I love Jacksonville. Amac game two. And then we fifteen weeks sixteen you have Washington Miami. So I think we noticed a trend here. The teams that you want to target when you're looking at defenses teams that are playing Tennessee potentially Jacksonville, Washington, New York Miami. So I I like Jacksonville is. Well, sixty seven percent is still pretty low. They you know, they could potentially be there on waivers. I like it. Now Seth as we kind of wrap up here. Heading into week twelve thanksgiving weekend. I think we'll start getting some Saturday games pretty soon. Once the college season is over. So that will be nice. My wife will be asking. Why is your more football on during the week isn't isn't three days enough? But in terms of the season, give me a word kind of put you on the spot here, we didn't rehearse this. But gimme a word or phrase if you if you so wish that would describe the twenty eighteen NFL season. A word ascribe the twenty eighteen season. I'm entertaining. I guess that's kind of a boring word, you know, pretty vague. I think entertaining I think that as the season is taken shape and the beginning of the year. We're like this is like no good teams. And they're still really no good defenses. But there's a whole lot maybe more. So than in recent memory. There's a lot of really good teams that I could see what in the Super Bowl because New England is more human than they've been the past few seasons. I still think they have a shot to win the Super Bowl. I think the saints have shot. I think the Rams have shot. I think the bears have an outside chance. I think the chiefs have chanting the Steelers do there's like legit six or seven teams that you could make a very strong case for winning the Super Bowl and known will call you crazy. Yeah. I I can't remember another year. Like that recently. I mean, can you know, I can't. So I agree in in one of the words I would use it would be quarterback quarterback youth even each year. I think we keep adding onto this next level. Of quarterbacks. We get Andrew lock back. Pat, Mahomes, steps up Trubisky steps up Watson comes back from his injury. We just have a plethora of young quarterbacks. Of course Carson Wentz. Was you know? Proved himself last year, but he was injured came back. So we have healthy quarterback this year. And we have a lot of youth at the quarterback position. So should be very promising for the NFL moving forward. Here's a question. And this is the thing to not only there are a lot of competitive teams in terms of the you know, the Super Bowl race. But MVP this is going to be the most hotly contested MVP race in the history of the NFL and two names, obviously, come to mind as Patrick Mahomes and drew Brees Mahomes, thirty seven touchdowns ten interceptions. Drew Brees twenty five touchdowns one interception. This has to be the year for drew Brees to win his first MVP. I would think he has to be the favorite. But you also have Todd Gurley who is in the mix as well. And I think Jared Goff deserves to be at least in the mix as well. Yep. I think those are definitely what four right there. Right. So I think those definitely the top four I think Brees is probably the leading candidate. I think that he probably does the most for his team, you know, especially when you look at golf that has girly Mahomes as a ton. Of course, don't get me wrong. But I mean, tyreek hill is an absolute freak. And I'm sure a lot of other quarterbacks wished to have him. But yeah, it's going to be a tight race in. You know, there's no this still could go a lot of different directions because there's still a good healthy portion of the season left. Agreed. I just adding you couldn't go wrong with either one of those quarterbacks Patrick Mahomes, but a star. But drew Brees. I mean, he's got good plays got Michael. He's got Michael Thomas who's very very good. And he's got good running backs but running backs around the NFL. I still think a lot of them are dime. A dozen even though Kamara kind of a freak. But we have tyreek hill who who might be the best receiver in the NFL. This point he's easily probably top three and you have Travis Kelsey top three tight end in the NFL. And then you have cream hunt and Pama homes has much more talent around him on offense. Then drew Brees does and debris everything. So I think it'll be a one of the more. Holly contests MVP races. But I think it's just kind of emblematic of the season we've seen where there's so many good high scoring team so many quarterbacks putting up crazy numbers. And again the first time in forever. When literally the saints chiefs Rams any those teams win the Super Bowl. We wouldn't we wouldn't bat ni-. Now may ask you this as we kinda I'll just leave it with this. Let's say breeze. Does win the MVP. No MVP has won the Super Bowl. Okay. We just saw Matt Ryan crumble. Up by twenty five points, Tom Brady, I think when it last year is that correct? Remember going into it knowing that that curse stat as I would. So it's obviously kind of a weird stat more or less, but say breeze wins. It does he win the Super Bowl. Does. He do you think you'll actually come through and break that curse? Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't I don't really read too much into that. I think the saints. I think that this is a unique year in the sense that New England doesn't appear to be primed for a Super Bowl, Ron Ling. And if it's not a wing of the Super Bowl, I certainly give the saints better chance, and then the most the most balanced team in the NFL because their defense is much better than the Rams. Their defence is much better. But it's better than the Rams their defense is better than the chiefs. They have a great running game. And they have a back the most he's groups has never been this efficient this pinpoint accurate one hundred twenty three passer rating. So I don't know they check all the boxes they haven't experienced coach and John pay new. We Ozzy things a little overrated. But there are a lot of bad coaches in the NFL, and Sean clearly not one of them. I like the saints. I think right now, it's if I had to pick the saints of the field I'd probably pick the field because I I like the chiefs and the Rams and the Steelers. The patriots. But if I had to pick one team, I'm putting you know, I'm putting my money on the saints. I like sometimes those stats because they're indicative of trends, and I like to look at trend as in like, it's a trend for reason and the MVP wants kinda hard I set, but my guess is a lot of times that so win the MVP is usually carrying a shoulder carrying the team himself. So he's got really good stats when the b but together as a whole as a team, you know, that's why they haven't really won. But so that's a trend to look at the other one that I pay close attention to is no team has been the number one offense in the league has ever won as well. Right now. The Rams have the most yards in the NFL their number one total in offense. So if you follow trends, it wouldn't be the Rams or whoever was the MVP. Maybe drew Brees probably the front runner right now. Who does that leave? I don't know. But I think the chiefs third out of those the three big teams because I. And we're splitting hairs there. They're all amazing. But if I had to find the flow of can't city besides the defense, which is very suspect. It's that Pama homes out of those three core Bax, he's the most likely to make a mistake and he's the youngest quarterback of the three. So he's most prone to to make you whether it's a strip sack fumble or interception. He's a gunslinger. So he puts up crazy numbers. He's also as we saw last night the most likely of the three to make that crucial turnover. Absolutely. And then we're gonna leave it there. We are the NFL talking heads. Thanks for listening.
The Great Heartbreak
"You're listening to the mindful minute, meditations created for everyday joy. I'm Merrill Arnett Mama meditators and Co owner of sacred show West. This podcast is reported from live Monday night. Meditation Class where we have a brief discussion followed by a twenty minute guided meditation. Hey, guys I. Just want to a little context for today's episode of the Mindful Minute I have million listeners that listen from outside the country, and so I just want to set some context for what we're talking about this evening I am recording this podcast on Monday June. I twenty twenty. And we are in the midst of the COVID, nineteen pandemic, and there's quite a bit of divisiveness and arguing about the very issues of this pandemic in our country, and then on top of that you are. Unfortunately struggling with tremendous unrest around the racism in our country. And as we speak, there are protests happening in cities across the country. This feels very present very huge at very much meeting our attention and so while we'll be talking about this this evening. I'm sure in many other countries. This is an issue to as it's not specifically racism issues of oppression issues of discrimination issues of divisiness or otherness pervade our world and so i. hope that you're able to take. Some comfort might deism practices from this evening's talk regardless of the issues that you are currently facing in your particular hometown. Let's jump into today's episode. Thanks for listening. Thank you guys so much for. Practicing with me tonight I am. Beyond uplifted to see your faces and Really, humbled to get to. Sit In chair practice with advice this evening. Tried really hard to find the source of. This quote. That I think I read. At some point in my meditation, life and I don't remember who wrote it and I don't even remember the words and I can't find it. No matter what I do, I have been looking and looking. But essentially, the quote, said something along the lines of to practice meditation eventually. is to experience the great heartbreak of world. And I remember reading that and feeling scared feeling like. That's that's not what I started up for like I'm not sure that's what I'm here to do right. I don't WanNa. Feel any pain. I'm trying to be happy or have less stress or you know a million other reasons that we might come to meditate. And what I didn't get from that quote when I first read, it was that it wasn't a choice, and it wasn't like I had to choose to suddenly. Feel more be more compassionate. It was just by the act of returning to a meditation practice over time and over years that. We begin to settle deeper and deeper into our own hearts. So much so, and it's settling into our own hearts in such as subtle way, because really what we're doing in the beginning is. We're just feeling our own stuff. We're feeling our own emotion and discovering things that maybe we've numbed out to in the past ignored in the past, and now we're getting more comfortable feeling our feelings. And the byproduct of that is we also in some vague ways become more comfortable feeling with else's happening in the world that we need to be awake to that we need to be. Able to feel and stay present for and be with. An I was listening to a meditation teacher earlier today. Actually who said? The important thing to remember right now is that the ability to feel pain is its first step in liberation. The ability to feel pain is a first step towards liberation. And, it is because we're no longer confined to this little safe box. Where we say if I just stay here, nothing will hurt me I'll be okay. My world will crumble. Everything will look nice I'll be safe. When we have such a tiny tight little box to live in, it's really difficult to feel free. Right because it, amy moment we might bump into one of the walls and send a crumbling down. So as we start, let ourselves say okay. I'm strong enough to feel this. Okay. I'm strong enough to stay awake to us. It brings with it a sense of now. I can stretch out my arms. Now I can stand up. Now, I can kick my leg out in rage and know that it's not walls that are crumbling right. Those aren't protecting me I've got the space to do what I need to do. So there is A. Buddhist nun named Pama Show Dron and she has written a myriad of books I. encourage you to her name and look at the title of her books, because it's literally like for the last fifty years. She's been writing books for this moment. Because all of them, all of her books have to do with. Fear uncertainty anger. Trust like all of these big emotions, and the ones that we kind of clump into the I don't WanNa. Feel it category, or I'm scared of it category. These this is what you've been writing about for her life as a meditation teacher and the code I brought for tonight. From her is. To stay with that shakiness. To stay with a broken heart. With a rumbling stomach. With a feeling of hopelessness and wanting to get revenge. That is the path of true awakening. Sticking with that uncertainty, Getting the Knack of relaxing in the midst of chaos. And learning not to panic. This is the spiritual path. She doesn't write anything about. Changing. Or Fixing ed or being better about it. She just writes about staying. And if you're familiar with the story of the Buddha's enlightenment. It is almost identical. And that story to paraphrase it very much, so is simply that. This man who has set out to become enlightened. From years and years and years does everything and nothing works, and eventually he decides he's just going to try one more time, and he sits under a tree and he vows. He will not get up until he is enlightened. And Mara who is the personification of? Temptation, and struggle and fear. Mara shows up and throws everything at this man. Everything every temptation every horror, every fear possible. And he does not get up. He just stays. And he says I see you. I see you Mara. I see you Mara. And as day broke. He achieved enlightenment. And tell that story not to talk about some pseudo spiritual head in the clouds I'm going to leave this world enlightenment, but I'm talking about the alignment that we need right now in this moment, which is to say that we are awake. And that we are taking the energy that is here in this moment and using it in the wisest way as possible. Right we're talking about enlightenment in the sense that we are bringing to light what we actually expect this world talk light. We're bringing to light what we expect people to treat each other like. And so when we practice I, really invite you to. Hold Space for this practice not to be an escape. But rather to be a firming of your presence, almost like you were shoring yourself up so that you have even more to stay present for right with a steadier foundation. I didn't know what practice to teach tonight. I thought through all the meditation practices that I've done and learned and I thought God. What should I offer? What will be the most helpful? And I don't know the answers I don't know. But I went with what the Dalai Lama said. I figured he might know right. The, Dalai Lama was interviewed recently and he. Mentioned The Chinese. Communist, who tortured and killed his Tibetan brothers and sisters. And you know he's known for having compassion even towards these. People that hurt him hurt his people and forced him into exile. And, so the interviewer said well, what do you practice and? The Dalai. Lama said he practices Tomlin. So this is what we're gonNA practice tonight to. Tongue is a compassion practice. And it's I think particularly potent for a couple of reasons, the first of which is you can practice with anyone. and. So when we practice meadow, which I know a lot of you guys are familiar with I. Teach metal a lot. That's one that I really rely on my day to day practice, but with Meta there's a a very prescribed order of being set you practice with right, and if you're really doing the full practice, you're starting with yourself. You're going through loved ones than neutral people and then difficult people, but with Tom Lynn. You can go anywhere you WANNA, go. So sometimes you might be doing glen for yourself. Compassion practice for yourself because you need. Sometimes! You might be doing it for somebody that you love and you're worried about. Somebody that you are really struggling with. Or anybody in between right, you get to pick who practices foreign isn't for just one person is. If a group of people is for the world in general, you get to pick. And then the actual practice what we're doing here tonight? In essence is. As, we breathe in. We are drawing in the suffering of. This being that you've chosen to practice with your self. Somebody knows somebody you don't know. You're drawing in their suffering not to hold onto it not to carry it around as your own. But to transform it. So we draw this in with our in breath and on the out breath were sending out is compassion. And we do this the reason we can do this. Is because our practice every meditation we've done essentially what it's doing is creating inside each of us. An open vessel of love. An open vessel of love. And I really want you to hear the word open because I. Do not want you to do this practice. Hold on to all the pain that is in the air right now and then try to go to bed. That is not the work. We are an open vessel of love, so we are able to draw that in and send out something completely fresh new. And so we do this practice, and the idea is not just idea, but really truth shown in studies that compassion practices fortify us. Compassion practices whether they're done for ourselves whether they're done for people. We love whether they're done for people that we really struggle with. The fortify us. They strengthen our set of. Inner knowing. It strengthens our sense of. Resilience. And our ability to keep breathing. To keep practicing and keep staying awake in. The midst of the heartbreak of the world. So. Let's practice together tonight. We're going to do about twenty minutes and I will of course guide. It has always if at any point. This practice feels too intense because it's a compassion practice or simply, because this is a super intense moment. If. It's too intense. You Stop It. Open your eyes. Feel your feet on the earth and take a couple of deep breaths. Remind yourself where you are that you're safe. and. You can either choose to go back into the practice when you feel study or you can simply remain, just still is open breathing leading herself settle okay. Okay. So go ahead and take a moment to find a comfortable seat. So if you've had, your legs crossed to my own crusher legs crossing the other way. If you're sitting. Bidding the chair like me. Have your feet flat on the earth? Hands Down by the side Sir on your lap. And when you're ready, you can let your eyes clues. If that feels to intense today. Always you're welcome to take a soft gaze down towards ear. And together as a group here, take a deep breath. A. Sigh? We'll do that once more just inhaling deeply gathering yourself up right here in this moment. Acts let her go. Allowing, your breath just to fall to its own natural pace. Taking a moment to just feel the simple ease of sitting and breathing. You might notice your seed in the chair. Cushion beneath. You relax senior hips relaxing your thighs. Subtly might lift up in lengthen the crowd of the head so that you feel tall. We feel awake. Muscles to the face relax. Foreheads moving out and brought any. specially that space between the eyebrows. The skin around the eyes softens. The Web's the AW. The Tom. Just gently do our best. Let these areas relax. To throughout the face where releasing any clinching or any gripping? You might swallow once or twice just to feel the throat relax. Send a few brass out across your shoulder. If you can, you can relax them. If you can't tonight, you might just notice where that tension resides. Maybe you feel a few brats. Move Down through the Chasse. Through the belly. Taking care to relax the muscles in the belly. It's here with US strong back. And the soft front. We turn our awareness to the BRAFF. Just for a moment feeling the air that you draw in on the hand. Feeling the air's moves out on the say. Today we'll be doing something specific with our breath. Until you'll just have your awareness. Right on your nose feeling the breath as you draw. And release it out. Without actually doing anything. I want you to feel this next inhale as if it was coming in just the left side. Just that left nostril breathing. As you breathe out your breathing out the right now strong. You don't need to use your hands just in your mind. Inhaling in the right side. And axe, hailing out the left side. Just following this pattern for a bit in hailing in the left nostril. Acts hailing out the right nostril. Inhaling in the right. Next hailing now Aleph. A. Continuing to follow this pattern for just another minute or two. Might notice here. She breath in. In help peaks right at the mid point of the brain. Before you exhale backout. Almost, as if you're breath was drying an inverted the. To. The point right in the center of your brain. Perhaps. Notice if you can feel or sense. Bit Of Light! A riding on this breath. Feeling right at the midpoint of the brain, a warm golden light, just philly. And then Nadine expanding our individual. Open vessels of love. You feel that in a way from the inside out. You can let go of that alternate nostril. Just feel now as you breathe in that breath is coming directly in the center of the chess. And as you breathe without your breathing directly out from the center of the chess. As if you could breathe from the heart, space itself. You. Feel, The heart fully awakened. Here that you can bring to mind. Whoever you'll practice for this evening. Whether that's yourself. Whether. It's a specific person or group of people. A. Strong back and soft, Front! Bring, this being begins to my. As you breathe directly into the center of your heart space share drive in their suffering. Failure transformed in the light of your heart, and as you breathe out, which were breathing out for this being or beings is compassion. We're going to settle. Into about ten minutes, of, silence here. To, the best of your ability will just stay with this practice. Breathing directly into the center of the chest, dry in suffering. Breathing directly out from the center of the chess. Breathing out compassion. Get loss. Sidetracked, simply notice that you come right back to feeling that breath an out of the center of the heart. It feels too much. You can always let it go sooner. Gradually, feeling breath deep in here. Feeling the fullness of your next to inhale next exhale. And today let's draw our palms together. Rub Your hands together quickly. So you're building feed and friction between your palms and do this until you feel a lot of warmth, allot of energy when you do place one hand in the other right atop your heart. Feeling that warmth move through skin through bone until it's infusing the very hard itself. Just one more breath year. Filling the power and uniqueness of your open vessel of love. Bowing to yourself. Bowing to your practice, Bowing to your strength. On sick of full breath in. And exhale out! Noah stay. Thanks for listening to the Mindful Bennett. If you enjoyed this episode, it would mean the world to take time to leave review for share this with somebody new thick would enjoy it. To learn more about my em-. Person and virtual offerings visit Merrill on the net dot Com. Or check me out on Instagram at narrow Arnett, thanks y'all see next week.
The Birth of Ashtika
"Welcome to the fairytale of India where we bring to US doggies of kings and Queens Princess Anna deavere classic teams of eventual Magic Ngoma from India brought to you in a new of Dodd by Gov starting known more visit midst midst and legends India Dot Com. The board of Attica once there lived a Reshi named Gerard. Good Ohio devoted his entire life to penance and meditation since his childhood he traveled around the world and bathed in various sacred rivers and worshipped at many sacred places places when he was traveling in a forest he saw many men suspended upside down from not being slowly lowered into a hole in the ground. He approached them an artist host. Who are you? What is your crime? That's such a punishment has been given to you. David he replied we have the souls of dead men legal fees who did your penance and meditation Viva called the Yawovi over us. We only have one descendant alive. Now named Joe Doc who he is unmarried and performing via was territories as part of religious scriptures. It is is important for the descendant to rescue the ancestors but as he's added we are best in she. Such faked great shut up good was astonished on hearing this. He said I'm that rich. That is your descendant descendant. I did not know that my celibacy had affected you all in afterlife. Tell me what what can be done to help you out of the soil. These said as soon as possible abby and get children that is the only team that gained. See Besides your child is the guarantee for your better afterlife. So please his get married. Then Reshi jet up good wondered all over the earth in search of a wife but he did not find one he was too old and not pleasant to look at so good was ready to marry him and finally he went to the dense forest and prayed to the gods to find a good wife for him as he really wished to rescue his ancestors from the hill. Known as what Vasu Ki the king of the cell phones and appeared in front of him and said all she. I have a beautiful sister who who is a manageable age and via looking good glue access her hand in marriage the vichy than said. I'm thankful to you. Oh King of cell phones but the prophecy says that my wife. I still have the same name as mine. Unless you're still has named his judicial coup. I cannot marry her boss. sukey said it. That prophecy had requested youthful. Manage on Neem is also legit up little so please accept todd. As your wife said I shall mattia system Only on one condition. He should never question anything. I do and obey my orders. She should should not do anything that I will not lie. You OUGHTA wed.. I'm a poor Reshi. So I do not have the wells too mundane alive. You must maintain your system even off dramatic if you agree to these conditions. Only then can I agree for the marriage. Masayuki accepted these conditions on behalf of his system and the Madij happened and as for the prescribed vay the rights kids. Do you remember the story of the sneaks the sneaks that refused refused to assist their mother Kadru in winning a bed by cheating enraged. Then mother goes them to be burned in the sacrificial file by the grace of Lord Pama the course was modified as all evil. SNEAKS shall die eight and only the good ones will survey. The prophecy said that the son of Reshi Girod could and Vasu GI sister. Jet Blue was the only one seve the sneaks and so vast cookie was very anxious. I'm sure to marry his to the siege coming back to US story. vasu still proved to be. He devoted vice following her husband's wishes to head conceived but she was not aware the office yet. One be the She was sleeping with his head lease on the wife's lap he. He slept for a longer time than usual and the sun began to set. His wife was in a dilemma. In one hand she wanted to weaker husband up for he had to perform the Pooja at sunset time. And if not performed it would be a dishonour for a hammer on the other hand. If she woke him up and he would be angry at being stopped talked. She finally decided that the greater danger lay in him missing the evening ritual so she gender please shook him and spring water on his face he woke up and was extremely angry with his wife. His wife said to him. Not I did not want you to miss the evening rituals. I was afraid the all the minute that you have accumulated by long Bannon's would be destroyed by your untimely sleep. And she said if I had not performed my evening rituals the son would not have set cla such as my Paulo. You have broken the promise made by your brother and disobeyed so I shall leave you. She feared her husband's Roth and bleed it again but the vichy was adamant desperation. She said my beeper safety is dependant on the son who will be born to us If you leave me now how can the sun be born. I filled my brother was Sukey for I have not had produced a child the Reshi by his divine insight knew that she was pregnant. So he said You you have conceived our child Jet Goodell Dangerous Don to Ho Brdo Vasu cookie and told him what what happened. Basu key was initially unhappy. That the air that he had been hoping for was not there mm-hmm but he was consoled when she assured him that her husband had said that she already was scouting his Jain and the child born in due course was named US thicker. He was a brilliant scholar and was very learned in the scriptures when he was about sixteen King Gianluigi up performed. The fleet sneak sacrificed with the aim of destroying all the snakes at his mother's request us the Galvin's to the sacrifice vice and obtained a boon from Gianluigi that the snake sacrifice should be abandoned midway dust. He fulfilled the purpose of his book saving the race of snakes throng destruction. How did you like I? Today's story lease leave. Your review on gotTA STORY DOT Com. Listen to such amazing stories. Aubrey's on Gotha story DOT COM and overnight.
Ep.4 Nicole Brown Faulknor - Compassion in the face of Global Trauma
"Welcome to love and compassion. The podcast where we explore different topics that may challenge our current releases. The fears that the generate our hope is that through dialogue. You the listener be inspired and motivated in new. Went on your own journey. The living more loving and compassionate life. Please welcome your host giselle. Hello everyone and walk. My guest today is register. Psychotherapist in chaldean youth counselor. She owner wounds to wings psychotherapy and has extensive experience working with trauma addictions and poverty. She uses a body centered. Approach kohl's limitation to assist with trauma healing and was recently the two thousand nine hundred and people's choice award winner by blacks for her work as a counselor. Please join me walking. Wonderful nicole brown faulkner. Welcome to call. I thank you for having thank you so much for being here really appreciate it. You didn't in what feels like very challenging times with kobe. The death of george floyd among others it seems in our world is undergoing this collective grief and suffering. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about how what's happening in the world may be contributing to kind of global trauma especially for some folks. Okay we're going to jump right in my comment to that. Its collective trauma. I think that's going on right now. Which really means that. Everybody kind of has been shifted in a way that really see that. I think that people have been shifted because there are responding to the chaos confusion in the world and people are feeling they think before with the business and everything that was going on before which business to me when i worked with it is a response. It could trauma response anyways. I think that people are feeling and they're connecting in the space. Thank you if you could go a little bit into. How business is a trauma response in the world that we currently live in. we're destructible and so if you could just provide a little bit more info about how business can be seen as a trauma response. This is can be seen as a trauma response because we are reacting. We're reacting to things all the time and so we can fill it by doing things to avoid feeling and trying to simplify this. In a way. I think before all of this the pandemic and everything like that a majority of us for moving and we were busy and we weren't able really to feel just reacting and now with the stillness i think people are instead of reacting to things are feeling and responding and so i don't know how to go how far to go other than talk about business being perhaps trauma to avoid feeling if i tend to ramble and like tottered on normal. I did want to ask you to comment that. Now we're dealing in stolen. It was so insightful. Because for so long. I think we've been avoiding ourselves. With all these distractions. We never had to be with ourselves in kind of this being sent home. If you made to our rooms forcing us to sit with ourselves in be with ourselves in seoul. I think that may be what's bringing up a lot of the trauma in issues. Absolutely people are talking about this pandemic of fear and radic behaviors and like everyone's acting radically and everything but it's not erotic actually. It's regressive is a defense mechanism klay dropping it too but it's due to a fear response really and i think that was brilliant You kinda give image about being sent to a rooms. And i think that we have regressed like no one's talked about what's happened and why we are acting the way we are because of the pandemic and i call it regression so when we feel unsettled over anxious Regression happens and it's a way when kids do it. It's a way that they get extra attention. Perhaps but really. I think when adults it's a way that we begin to gain maintain a sense of control and so when i work with it i always say well. What's the age of the image. Like what is your age of this behavior. If you had to close your eyes and kind of go there and i think the psyche which is just our mind and our spirit. Our bodies have regressed because of it because of the insecurity because of the chaos confusion and we have moved into fear anger. It's a regressive response. It's a fear response. That's interesting because they're different groups of people like some people are really trying to deal with this. Fear anger with some compassionate and understanding and other people are still stuck in judgment. But i like how you phrased in terms of seeing. It's not just the reactivity. It's a regressive behavior to address a lot of the field grief and scientists that is maybe near. It's really regressive behavior to back to what we need. Well it's again incentive control editor. What we don't have any control of you can say the same for children that they feel. They need control. Yeah children do it. You're right the same for children u. c. n. children. It's the way that they get extra attention or perhaps a gain or maintain its control around the environment like toddlers. Do it because you're trying to gain control like master their identity say writer when the are like you know. They're kind of falling into himselves noticing that they're separate from the parent and so that's what you get there. But in adults it's retreating to earlier developmental stage. You see like we don't think of it in adults but you might know him. The work i do is like inner child work. So you begin to deconstruct around the adult like what is happening there. And so usually. When i started deconstructing around i start understanding what the survival strategy is around the child of the adult so emotionally socially behaviorally. There's a regression that's happening there. It's a form of helplessness. So yeah like. I'll say that Beautiful thank you. This global or collective trauma can also be as you said. Fear and anger can be an impetus for change. Do you think a post coup-bid in post everything that is happening around racism that this will actually finally be motivating factor or the impetus for the world to look different. Well i'm hopeful person. So i i hope so i can say that i know that people are feeling and i think that if you can't or compassion for yourself it's quite difficult to have that for others and for some reason with the pandemic people are collectively will if we're talking about regression like people are collectively feeling with their feeling and they are then able to feel for others. I think the shift around. What was what's happened has created that you see if this is not happening to me. Then i don't really care. And i'm not saying it negatively saying it to create context right so if it doesn't affect me than you know what i'm busy doing something else or i'm connecting to the things that connect to me and with the pandemic collectively. We all felt this. This fear and this confusion which created a unity. I think in that. Because we're all feeling now. I feel the fear for me not knowing what's happening so i can feel the fear for you. I don't know how to ask. Besides i hope so. I hope that we carry this level of consciousness with us for others while that was so very well said is you were talking. I was reflecting on. I feel in one of the key aspects of compassion is awareness of my own suffering. If i'm practicing self compassion and awareness of the suffering of others if i'm practicing compassion for others and it's so true we are moving to i feel i think it is this collective feeling this common humanity that we're finally getting at which before i think what you said was spot on. There's been situations where like well you know. That's so sad. But if it doesn't impact me directly than i'm not going to be motivated to app was happening with covid and even with all the reason events around george floyd is that we're realizing that were interconnected. The i can't be well unless you're well that these systems impact all of us and that we are having this global feeling. I wanted to ask the next question because you talked about this global trauma but there might be some individuals out there that actually a not aware that experiencing trauma or that they're experiencing these repressive feelings. Can you talk a little bit about how we may hold trauman. Our bodies and what kind of the komo's common signs are so that people can work towards being more compassionate to themselves. Sure i it's very common. That people who are suffering trauma may not be aware of the trauma that their bodies are suffering because part of trauma is to dissociate like out of your body so when working with trauma the work is that trauma stored on the body like our bodies have feelings. You might have stomach pains. Chest pains Choking sensation shortness of lake. There's readings of foods is of appetite and so that can be common symptoms for people but people who suffer from trauma tend to have responsive bodies and they are not aware that that is connected to something they just go. I have a sensitive stomach by educating around emotions too because when i talk about traumas because people don't know what they're feeling so it's a bit complicated when working with trauma to teach them that. There's a feeling in there because with trauma the part of the brain that we used to articulate feelings that gets shutoff is part of the survival response for the body. And so i i usually Let them know right away. What emotions are do things. Because it's energy it's an energy that wants to move and it kind of gets stuck. It's a collection of sensations in the body and the brain that we give a name to and it tells us how we are like in relation to particular current situation. So someone can come up close to my body and i might have a feelings about the feeling and name it and then i saw unsafe or felt frustrated. I started teach what your body is saying what it might be do we. And then we start to embody if that makes sense. I don't want to take you for walks confuse. You usually notice things like your body. So that's one headaches things about your mind. A mind is a is always trying to intellectualize with the hurts. Trying to feel so the mind might be a worrying. Mind a muddled mind i mares. Eating come in emotions were talking about depression when the energy gets stuck if feels very heavy so the symptoms of depression will come up and come up in behavior like extent prone or insomnia absence. Use like smoking more. You know one of the things that i noticed in my son in particular is that whenever anything emotionally laden happens for him he gets a lot of tummy aches and that's how he processes his emotions and i love the fact that we're moving towards connecting the physical body with the emotional and the spiritual because the medical model just doesn't treat it that way there's no resolving what's at the root cause of this. It's like here's your medication. It's symptom management. I think there is now greater and greater awareness of the connection and how that stored energy can have an impact on your well being in how aggressing all of that store trauma in the body like you said can help them get to the point where those physical symptoms or that trauma can be assisted but currently that's not it's not the the localization so a lot of our listeners might be thinking oh this is just heading like you said. In general i was born with a bad stomach when really all this stored emotions in unaddressed trauma. That may be within their. Yeah exactly their stories these bodily symptoms. I treat stories right with children. Quite enjoy work with children As well although. I don't. But i i love it because their expressive right where they are so i would say allow your tummy to speak to me. What would your tummy be saying if it could talk. Because that's where they store their emotions you see and then we can begin to work with that and so with adults the same thing the checking around like what's your internal world. How's your internal world. Doing crying happened. So i'll say if your tears could talk with a saying it allows the body to articulate like. You could speak for it because you don't really know until you kind of hold a frame around it so that we can begin to treat the trauma. Which is an undiagnosed story. Let's hear the trauma memory. Let's begin to work with that. Which is the work really in therapy. Rate is to add on to what you're saying there for sure. That's so great that you just gave a strategy right there in terms of checking in with ourselves like why do i need right now in experiencing something. Can i talk to ask questions. Can you tell me what it is. That i'm feeling i think that's a great way to connect to. I feel beautiful into aero- trauma informed. Practice enables us to understand each other's behaviors through the lens of trauma. I was wondering how you thought Trauma informed practice can alter our views on addictions and mental health problems or criminal behavior. Because a lot of the times we tend to villainous people instead of looking at these hebrews from the lens of compassion. I call it the other ring when we do this uttering like will them out. We kinda separate ourselves and in the separation where we're disconnected from a we are all perhaps one though when trauma informed practices. Actually inform you around the behavior. I think like it gives information how to work with fat now as with trauma sensitive type of vacation. I think that trauma work. Like i brought the trauma work from boston here. In the methodology of care which these are part of it like trauma informed is part of age from the sensitive is part of it. Real trauma work is allowing people to A methodology that allows people to choose a lot of ships when working with them. Like how they wanna with they wanna do. It begins to empower them and then allowing them to notice. There's no power dynamic. It's the most important thing working with with trauma. Which really is what. I should bring in a lot of times coming. In i'm informed. Practice is still a power dynamic in the room or when working with people bite because we are one when you work with trauma. You're one two with the client. They are the experts. What do they want to tell me. What do they want to share traits less other see which separates once you do that so you know trauma informed practice or great immigrants to information and in trauma how to do it but the real work is trauma work and how to work with people who have suffered from trauma it about empowerment reflecting before this podcast on the quote by pama on who who talks about compassion and she says the compassionate between equals. When you see your darkness that you can see the darkness of others in being able to work together to help here our own suffering. What i thought about as you were talking. Made me think that's right like we want to create relationships insists that our empowering. I don't need to be the expert. I don't need to tell you how to hear yourself. It really is about tapping into your own power in bringing in which i think is how you work. I was wondering if on an individual basis it might be easier but in terms of systems. What systems could have greater awareness of trauma in greater awareness of how to create empowering practice. And that's a big system always make light and say you know. I'm in the world but i'm not of it. I always like down the edge. So that i'm not part of a system as work even working in large groups. The same way you see with systems. I would empower the people not the system because the system will be there. It was there before me. It will be there after me. And so i feel. It's a big feet. You know but i think working with one individual at a time and each individual they are the world to me like inside each individual if we are sharing about being one each individual is the world or the universe and so ideal with one percent of the time and empower them. I bring consciousness to what's unconscious at for them for them to walk through their healing. I wouldn't pay people when i talk. You mentioned system. That's what i would do. I don't even touch it. what do you feel. it's quite bacon. I thought what you said was really beautiful and interesting. I was also reflecting on the whole defunding police movement in where i landed on. Not thought was exactly what you said. We really can't eradicate these systems in our level of consciousness is such that we're no longer afraid of our brothers and sisters that we don't fear them violating our rights or needing some other systems of control. And so you're right. I think the the the starting point is empowering the people empowering individuals and assisting them or enabling or creating opportunity so that people can step up and do their own power until these systems full awake systems are interesting because they were there. It's the way we norm each other or create a societal norm and like air quoting here because what is more interested in doing is looking at system because i work in child welfare system in got into that work because i wanted to help children and families all the systems that i see are based on fear in control in power over there now. Empowerment trust faith in lifting people up so start to question where they originated and when you look at the history history is one of control to maintain the control of a group of people. So then you start to think. Should this systems be shifted of the individuals within the systems and those individuals that make up these systems or the loss for the system or work one on one with the individuals for both. So i think that's that's the challenge but like you said it's it's big green. You have to work with it from the bottom up top down to if i'm working with as system so i'm going into work in a in an agency or something like that. I will train the talk with. That's what we call the leadership team stuff like that and like stop and then i work with the people like to their clients and all that it's a tier approach because you can't run the people at the top. They are unconscious to if the build consciousness. And what is that that. It's reconnection to yourself. Because otherwise we are just unconsciously reacting all the time and you want to be in a space where you can respond which is very embody able to observe and notice and then respond to what you're responding to tape of society like we're not conscious for just projecting our stuff on everyone easily. I could do it too like going through a line at the grocery store and the cashiers a little bit upset then i might have response personally. Aguire you upset. It's a me right you know. I wonder about her day. What is your home likely. Does she feel visible. I had to really go. This is not me that she's being upset with so that i can be in a place of response and look her and say well. How are you doing. How's your as opposed to react to her upset or angered nothing for you right. What's happening for you and dot. Who are reacting. this way. I just love what you said about on consciously reacting all the time. Most of the time has nothing to do with us directly it has to do with how people are unconsciously reacting. Complicating at the same time. The provinces reopening working towards face to now and so on and so forth. But there's so many people that are very afraid they don't trust the people are being socially responsible they don't trust the dobie okay into there's vaccine but like you said i believe that we are way more powerful and more empowered than we give ourselves credit but when we're stuck in fear we only generate more fear. I was wondering what strategies you may share with us to shift ourselves even one degree away from few will. But it's a big question. I'm going to simplify think that the way to work with fear is to fill because feel like fear is a response so needy. There's a connection that needs to happen like like a curiosity around like well. What makes you feel unsafe. There's a story behind all of your emotions all of our emotions all of their emotions. I think just offering people a speech to be curious around what that's about. What is my response about responding this way. Why am i scared to go back out. There and the thing is that all of us. Universal thing is cheerful. because we've lost trust. I don't remember pandemic ever happening. And so if our system was distrustful than we have earned trust back to me included to know yeah because with the pandemic was shifted into terror for a long time. That's really regressive feeling for me. It's very young and you know all of our stories are going to be ruffled up a little bit to be curious around why that is who did. I not trust before. Why do i not hold trust. It's a really big question because universally we we all are fearful as we. We've lost our trust so It's a great answer. Instead of running away from our fear from hearing you correctly we have to be with her fear if to be present for ourselves. Because i'm fears telling us something. I that's really important because so often in this is why we've created this world. We're so destructible and now we are. You know as we ables said second our rooms tracing our fears if we keep running away from the fear. It's not going to help us. When i've been afraid when i've had the most fear when i have faced my fears i'm realized that my fear was bigger than the actual obstacle. I faced in for me. That was like something that was overwhelming. Because i had made myself suffer for so long was facing it. It wasn't pleasant. But i realized my own power. I'm more powerful than i think i am. I can get through this. I can do this and i think that was a big awakening for me in terms of how i managed my very powerful. Yeah there is a messenger right like we wait referred to subside but fear. Never goes if we're honest about it so to do the thing and bring your fear with you because if you're waiting for it to go it may not actually feeds it. It gets bigger. So it's befriend it and carry it where you go. Yeah yeah. I think that's the key to empowerment facing fear is getting our powerbook Fear itself always bundles emotion. Like hurt and shame. It's like the motions that we don't really like like to touch so learning to actually become a friend. Okay fair we're going today ne-new or going and we're gonna do this thing and we're just gonna do it for like five minutes. Maybe is leaving the house. And it's a teaching to learn to befriend your emotions. Their messengers with you so be their fred traffic. I believe that the work of creating a more inclusive and less fear based world since we're talking about fear working on being more loving and compassionate towards oneself others in even though. This is very very challenging. I'm challenged by this as well who hurt us. I'm wondering what your thoughts on. That might be. Hey so a lot of times. I don't know how you serve. Maybe through social media and all that they're like compassionate you have to forgive will actually Maybe forgive or like. I don't know if it's brushing it away. Or whatever around the ability to be compassionate as to the people who hurt you to continue to love them and i do agree with that in a way but the thing is to be compassionate for them. You have to be compassionate for your story and yourself. I saw to forgive the people who have hurt you. It's a grief process. First of all you have to fill your story. A lot of trauma survivors. Nary their stories. Without feeling it so they can talk about it. They said shared it but they've not felt it. It's part of this type of disembodiment that happens with trauma. So you have to feel for yourself. What you went through and that journey is a feet At that time when you're able to feel for yourself then there is a space where you can remove or move or step back away from your perpetrator or the people that have hurt you. So that you can grief for yourself to say that i didn't deserve that i deserve more or i deserve whatever. The context is so that you can allow that grief process for yourself so then you can observe the other otherwise it might be falsified in a way. Because you've not felt aggrieved for yourself yet Passion comes up in that space. Because then you've moved away and you can see the of the person that hurt you again. I'm talking about it simply. This is a complex type of. Let's work to do. But i'm giving the big image to say when you're able to step back then you can step back from your perpetrator latte or the person that hurts you and then things happened in that space. You can create a boundary there. You can choose what you want to tolerate or not. Do you see what i mean like. You begin to boundary yourself. And that's a loving space and that allows you to love the other from wherever you are. It doesn't mean that you have to accept what's happened and take it in. It's a really taste. Space it's complicated space. But it's a loving space. Yes absolutely for my own experiences. I've gone through the mindful self compassion training and one of the things that they teach us in class is to titrate. It's about facing our own fear in facing that grief. The sadness and everything that we are holding those emotions that we have bottled up inside in starting to open our hearts in to start to actually feel some of that but using compassionate tight trade the amount of feeling so that we don't feel overwhelmed that we go back to because i think when you think about some of these these traumas that were holding her bodies can feel like an elephant. A friend that says to me you know. How do you eat an elephant. One bite at a time right. Exactly it is. If we're honest it's terrifying feel isn't it will just feel it but it's terrifying and so it's a muscle and You know i wouldn't give you a five hundred pound weight and say hey i start with one. Oh you know maybe maybe five times at but you know it's it's a tolerance for you have to build that muscle that feeling muscle to learn to feel and to say yeah. I can carry this little bit longer. I can stay with my feeling a little bit long non view. That's exactly what if you can start with the iphone. You're right i five founder. You do muscle training so we do personal physically right to be able to do that for ourselves emotionally recently. I was triggered by something able to connect dot reaction to a trigger that happened in that like indirectly like on the face had no connection but once i actually vocalized what was happening for myself. I made the connection with a ha. This is an old old. That's coming up to go in. I was bullying bullying. And then. After that i felt i felt that release. I felt relieved. But in the moment you don't know what's happening in your you feel like you're floundering can't put your finger on and then just the emotion just comes up yep yep out goal is and you know the other thing with that too is like in a safe space so i assume like there's a safe space for you so for others to with the when witnessing their feelings it does need a witnessing in a safe space and so sometimes i use the therapy room is a sacred space because in between these four walls you get to practice whatever you need to round your feelings to be curious about it to feel them and there's something very powerful in witnessing having a witness when you feel otherwise sometimes feelings get old they can move a lot but there's there's a work through that might be needed to writing and so there'd or whatever the space is for someone witnessing may be a very powerful tool Absolutely and you're right. I do feel like have a safe space at home. That i can be while fintech south and be able to express emotions. Can you talk a little bit. About what a safe space might feel like for those that don't know or maybe how they could create a space for themselves yet at this point for those who might be listening to me. Think that's anywhere can process your feelings and that might be in a therapy room to be honest or a group or something. Do you know it just means that. It's a space where you can learn to be offensively in a space where what happens in their stays there. It's a trust route a trespass and your body's learning to be safe there and it might be the only space you have and so it's a space like that until such a time when we can create safe space within ourselves. We have safety within ourselves. Right i'm your parents. You're opening up a new trauma center. Please share a little bit more about the work. You'll be doing there and where people can expect to attend your center. What will be opening in the local area right now. I'm looking for a facility which has taken a bit of time. But a allowing the universe to bring to me it's a trauma health and embodiment center. We're talking about the body to around about weight just by talking about feeling it'll be a facility where it's a huge space really. It'll be acidity. That's a healing space to work with trauma stigmatization anxiety marginalized community depression like old. These things that are labeled. I'd like to create a space. Where i can use non traditional approaches. I do in my wings. Practice every practice towards deconstructing power dynamics that can create environments where we mirror trauma in our mental health system. So that's that yeah wonderful. Can you just expand a little bit about deconstructing systems. Yeah so constructing power dynamics. I really am speaking about neutrally. I'll save at. Hospitals is a system and a mental health. Care is a system and so what happens in systems is at first of all i have to dismantle trauma. Trauma is because trauma comes in all forms and so we educate around small t big t traumas but trauma also is a just a firm of helplessness and a power over. Yeah so that can come in many dynamics right and so in that helplessness. You have to do you have to go or you have to continue to repeat this behavior that you're continuing to go to have power over and that creates trauma so a child who's helpless and apparent whose abusive they continue to go home every day after school into the abuse. They don't have a choice. they're hopeless in it. That's a form of trauma. There's a hopelessness in it. Going into mental health care system so going into a hospital. There's a system approach. You have to do this. I you have to tell your story of times different people. I'm exaggerating but you know you create this story and then you meet this person but the only work with anxiety or the only work with this symptom of depression if not yet to go to this place and so it's always moving and there's a power over you and so it mirrors back if you think about it trauma which is you're continually is and it's so easy to fall into the cracks in our system. And that's where i work. I'm an activist for the unspoken silenced. So they fall into the cracks. So i had to take years to observe what happens in our system sit perch myself up on edge and study were how did how did they get in there. How do they get a notice. And this is how trauma house and embodiment center. Vision was created. So that's what i mean for Shift gears a little bit. I have a dog. Might consider my third child. I love him so much. We adopted him when he was one year old. He was one of the best decisions. I feel we ever made. I didn't want to end the podcast without speaking about your colleague soldier. Because i see that you you you play soldiers. Your colleague of yours and i was wondering about how you guys work together. How he assists you in. Reminding you huddle of okay. We'll soldier is a twenty one month old blabber doodle and Soldier yet is a gift from the universe to me. I really feel that. I go eight weeks and he's in the end stages of his training. He's a registered therapy dog so his work will be to provide tactile stimulation. Like lying at your feet. Grounding techniques and affect regulation so relaxing trauma. Brain is what they call it so just being in a room as you know the love that dogs kind of exude in their energy works with symptoms of. Ptsd on simpson's in that and so he's my colleague because he does now. I read soldier more than he's probably reading the room because i can read him And i can change my technique knowing that the client might be having emotional response or for them to connect to their work and that type of stuff by how he attends toward them. And so that's why he's my colleague creates he's calming effects. But i fell in love with him. I was going to just use him as a you know as the registered therapy dog but i fell in love with soldier and i'm as owner proud owner as well and he does he. So unconditional. i'm in his glove and it teaches me to do the same thing. Just don verbally teacher love yes exactly. They're they're truly president being in the moment in just loving. I mean my dog. We believe came with some trauma. Then you see him now he just wants to love as they remind us just by that and i can be very not present sometimes as much as i'd like to stay present and he reminds me that like he has his way right and yet it's very important nut story. I have a friend who also has a therapy dog in. She had shared a story about how there was this client and she was seen as very aggressive and very controlling. it was a particular instance when the client was particularly angry and the dog. just new came over. Put the head on the lineup. The person just melted in their motions just started flooding them and they started crying because they remembered when they had a dog. A child the animal's ability to be able to hone in on that and see past the anger. He passed the aggression and to see the. That's in there right. Which is yes. That's very powerful. I thought it was awesome when i saw it on. Your website owns her colleague very cute. Yeah thank you for bringing him in own oris is what's next you so that the Listeners can check your okay okay. Well the trauma health and environment center will be accidents like an ongoing vision in project. That's underway as well as i am an author in a chapter of a book that will be coming out in the fall called embodied huey i do trauma. Yoga and trauma. Yoga sometimes gets Misconstrued for trauma informed on sensitive yoga. But the trauma. Yoga that i've brought here in canada to do is to work with movements and shapes of the body is to work with the brain that's trauma and stuck in survival loop and so i had the opportunity to talk about mind body healing as a facilitator of this work as well as my own personal story and allowing my story to be told to me from my body to me and reconnecting to my trauma work that way so i've had the opportunity to write about that and it will be authored in this book. That will be coming out and yeah that's big projects that are underway here. Where would people be able to find the trauma yoga and are able to line with you or since the pandemic we did go online. I am situated downtown kitchener. I have taken over the wellness room and queen street yoga and winston wing psychotherapy practices in there and so i do offer seven week courses to do this trauma yoga again. The yoga name gets bit attached to his not yoga. It's the shapes and movements that we do that. Look like you'll get it. Is the trauma work. We do so i do. Offer those several courses there in the fall. I'll be opening up to bypass community only classes generating space for different type of work because of the generational trauma on the bodies that way so again. That's offered downtown kitchener. What's we returned back to live environment. People are welcome to find me there right now. The online session just ended. And i will be doing in this summer right now but in the fallout reintegrating. That back you'll also have an upcoming podcast as well. It will be taped in july. Thank you for asking that. I have been asked to be an ambassador for. She's your neighbor. Through the women crisis services of waterloo region and i will be talking about trauma abuse and black women because you know our migration is one of pain and suffering. And there's some enlightenment around that in itself and the embodiment of that are being kidnapped as an analogy in the migration and then the torture pain attached to that. I'd and how that's lived out. Generally so i have the opportunity to talk about that in that. Podcast and connecting it to domestic violence and trauma interviews. Seems like really powerful work. Can't you so much nicole for sharing time with us in all the amazing work that you're doing we're really really grateful that you took time out to chat in what you're doing every day to help. People shift their experiences from whom swings. And please go checkup. Nicole's website for the trauma yoga in lastly check out the book. That's coming out cold embodied healing available on amazon. Thank you so much for listening. Everyone and don't forget to come back and check out more episodes on how to increase loving compassion for ourselves and others in our world.
"I'm Nora mcenery and this is terrible. Thanks for asking. And today. We're talking to Laura. Laura used to work in advertising in a city called Boston. Advertising is one of those jobs that seems cool. There's cool people working on cool stuff. And Laura's job was cool. One day Laura went into a new agency for a job interview when for the interviews. Very cool office in downtown Boston. And they had a bar in the office and I looked in there like all these wine bottles and everything I was like. Oh yeah this is for me like not the conversations not the potential position and they talked about it to. You was the selling point. That was a selling point for Laura because Laura really liked to drink. I mean a lot of people like to drink. Drinking is a perfectly acceptable thing to do. Especially here in the. Us Go to TJ. Max just that's just recommendation go to TJ maxx. But while you're there you can see a variety of fo- hand painted signs that say things like wine o'clock or rose. Aol Day or this. Is Mommy special juice drinking? Alcohol is a perfectly acceptable thing to do. Especially at Laura's Work Laura drinks when she takes clients out for dinner. She drinks when she and her colleagues out for happy hour and she drinks on the train. Ride home sometimes and she drinks sometimes when she says she isn't drinking stopping at the liquor store near her house grabbing. A few of those little bottles to stash in her purse. A lot of people don't have an issue with drinking. It's something they can do or not do no big deal but Laura. If you can't tell from this foreshadowing does have a problem with it and it's causing a lot of problems for her. You know felt like every day was just damage control even if nothing bat like my measure was like if I woke up and I could be extraordinarily hung over but like if I hadn't done something really stupid or said something really stupid like even if the only damage was just totally polluted my body and my mind I would be like crate. Nothing bad happened. Which is like such a fascinating idea that that was okay. Like that was my marker of success. Laura was the thirty five year old vice president of a global marketing agency. She ran marathons she taught Yoga and she co parented her daughter with her ex husband and she has a serious problem with alcohol that she's pretty good at hiding underneath her big job and her big accomplishments and the fact that she's a mom and she has to hide it because it's shameful. Shame has been a constant in Laura's life so far and drinking has only made that feeling of shame more intense. I mean from the very beginning like as a kid you know I felt like it was my fault if people if people around me like neighbouring my parents were. My Dad especially wasn't in a good mood. I was my fault. GotTa fix it you know. So it's that sort of underlying feeling was very very old. I just felt like the use of it. Despite the negative consequences was my fault. I was doing it wrong right like I should be able to drink quote unquote normally. I should be able to manage it. She should be able to manage it. Because she's the mom and mom's can manage anything right but since she became a mom. Laura's drinking has become more unmanageable. And that's something that I hear from a lot of mothers is that they're drinking gets worse when they have kids and there's all kinds of reasons for that you physiologically our body changes and hormonally things change a lot and are there's there can be depression anxiety or not sleeping and I just remember feeling like it's not working anymore like the drinking Isn't working anymore. And so I drink more to hopefully get that same relief that used to feel and And I felt like that that will. It was my fault that I couldn't stop doing it when the results were so obvious like I was born not just hung over but putting her in danger and saying should I didn't WanNa say it feels like there's also an added layer of guilt and shame that builds in when you're a wife and a mom. Oh God absolutely. There's a special vitriol for MOMS. Who Drink for sure and And it just because it flies in the face of everything that we feel like. We're supposed to be and is supposed to come naturally right that this this that your babies come first in that nothing is going to supplant that instinct But a very wise person woman in Sobriety told me that addiction is stronger than love until it isn't one of those nights. The strength of her addiction really shows itself it overpowers even her mother instinct and instinct. That has always gotten Laura home safe to her daughter. Even when Laura was blacked out so it's the morning after her brother's wedding and Laura wakes up groggy expecting to see her daughter beside her. But instead it's a stranger a guest from her brother's wedding. Laura is not in her hotel room. She's in his hotel real and her five-year-old daughter is alone in the hotel room. Laura should be waking up in and this is where the rock bottom moment comes right. This is where she gets it together now. Not Quite inside. I was like why does this? Where is this imaginary line that I seem to be crossing that other people? Don't cross that line. And why can I not? Why can I not prevent myself from crossing it like night after night so felt like that was my fault like just get your shit together So for another year she tries to find an alternative. Like maybe she drinks just a little bit or just on some days but nothing changes until everything changes We'll be right back We're back and Laura has spent the year after her brother's wedding trying to get sober. Pama children wrote that. Nothing goes away until it teaches us. What we need to now and Laura has learned a lot. Not everyone has a problem with drinking but everyone has a thing a thing they do. That isn't very good for them or is even bad for them. A thing they've struggled with and maybe are ashamed of Laura's thing was drinking and she did stop and after she stopped drinking she started to talk and write about her sobriety and she heard from a lot of people who were struggling with a lot of things in needed a place to feel heard one day she got an email from a woman and her sister was really struggling with drinking and she'd had a lot of consequences and the family have been trying to help for awhile and sister was just so upset and frustrated and angry and sad and she didn't know what to say to her sister. She was afraid of saying anything. Because which is very common you know. You don't want to scare them off you don't WanNa just like. What do I say and I wrote her this long letter back but this list of nine things was what I said at the end to like since this can be hard. I'm GONNA give you a list and I gave her this list. The list appears in the very beginning of Laura's book. We are the luckiest the surprising magic of a sober life. The first time I encountered the list was on instagram. Not Knowing any context around who Laura was or why she'd written it it still resonated with me. The list is nine items long and there's a list of things. Laura needed to hear herself as she quit her thing. And you're going to hear them all right now. Starting with number one number one. It is not your fault. We ran on the narrative that we are in control. And we just sit in of willpower. Just seen enough discipline to make something work or not work for us and when we can't stop doing something that is so obviously causing destruction to ourselves and others hearing that it's not your fault it's like I didn't believe it for a long time. I was like yeah okay whenever I'm still a piece of shit like no. It's actually not your fault like not just the drinking. Not just that fact. You're addicted Addictive substance but the reasons that you drink to begin with which all route in trauma for ninety nine point nine percent of people who get addicted. It's not your fault if you've listened to our series on childhood trauma. This should sound familiar because research has shown that childhood trauma increases a person's risk of substance use disorders and addiction So that's number one. It's not your fault your addiction your anxiety your depression and that leads us to number two you. It is your responsibility so number two is your responsibility and unless we take it on as our responsibility we have zero power to do anything and I find that people myself especially stay either really hardened into one side or the other like. It's all my fault. It's all my fault. If I can only just beat the shit out of myself more I'll change it which doesn't work or it's not my responsibility. I can't do this. It's not mine it's that person. I'm I have all these look at all these reasons why I'm so fucked up. You know and they stay so hard in that story and they can't get out of it because of that. See you have to be able to hold both things in your hand? It's not your fault. It is your responsibility and that Sox it stinks. It's the worst having to hold those two thoughts in either hand. That's not good. Both your hands are full. Are you know. Open the car door which brings us to number three. It's unfair that this is your thing. Yeah it's unfair. I love that it is. It's unfair filling fair and I want you to dig into this because I think that the toxic positively of instagram and and There's a whole whole author basis based on like you know we get the fuck over it make lemonade and and pull up. Mir bootstrap has yeah and the thing is like it sucks. It sucks sir. The thing that took me a long time to recognize about giving up alcohol was that I was so sad about this thing that was really killing me and it didn't make sense rate like it's like like two people where it wouldn't make sense. Maybe that they They learn on an abusive relationship. It was such a profound loss. And I come from a family of drinkers. Everyone around me drink my friends my colleagues and some of them could do it and take it or leave it you know. I would say most of the people in my life can really kind of take it or leave it and I couldn't I couldn't I don't know I I don't even care why is just the truth. I couldn't I. Once I started drinking. I had no idea what was going to happen. And I couldn't control that and it it felt like the most unfair thing in the world and it was and to just say that was like okay. I acknowledged that and there is such a big visceral relief to just saying that. That unfairness is a relief to Laura because like many people with addiction issues. She can trace a lot of adult behaviors back to her childhood blake. Roll my eyes at this kind of stuff's like oh please like psychobabble but it's real and it's true and I used to show up in therapy and be like okay can do this and sit down and eventually asked the question you know like. Tell me about your parents and I'd be like no. We're not doing that. I'm looking forward. I'm not looking back but eventually Laura does look back. She does explore her childhood in. Therapy is a very disorganized Love and from my parents and times abusive move and at times wonderful but overall I just learned that I had to hustle and lie and make things happen so that I could get what I needed and that is underneath everything. All of my behavior And you develop these coping mechanisms in childhood so that you can just survive in deal and it's all very intelligent. It's like the the smart thing that kids do. But when you keep doing that as an adult say lying to make people like you for example Or to keep the peace quote unquote. It's not super functional. And not only that but it causes a lot of pain in your relationships and it causes a lot of internal pain. That internal pain showed up in a lot of external ways as Laura grew up and that showed up in my relationships with men which are a big like area of underneath my drinking And it it showed up. I not even his drinking. But as it's like eating disorder like got a at an eating disorder of like a lot of women dooby up before I ever started drinking just as a way to try to control my world right and so that's what I mean it's like but none of that shit was my fault. None of that was my fault. I couldn't control it I had to look at it and look at it. Honestly and with clear is adult is and that's part of the taking responsibility right. It's taking responsibility for what is mine. Which is what I can do today. And we're my part in all those things whatever it is and then not taking responsibility for all the things that weren't mine which is a lot of it. What's number four? This thing number four actually comes from Laura's brother and the talk. He gave her about a year after his wedding. It was a big night for the family. Laura and her brother were throwing a surprise party for their MOMS sixtieth birthday. We had all kinds of guests flying in we had arranged at months in advance and when my brother and his wife Roldan of Logan Airport I picked them up and we went back to my house and picked up all my my daughter from school and I was like okay and I didn't even plan to drink. I had no intention of it and like all right. Why don't you guys go take all Mama and go to lunch and show? You can show your wife's the you know the town that she hasn't Seen Ama- go run some errands and like twenty minutes. Later I found myself walk into the to the liquor store and buying cheap nips of Cherry Vodka and like a bottle of wine and I literally just walked around my town popping into stores drinking in the middle of the day and I got super drunk. Laura shows up at her house where her brother and his wife hanging out with. Laura's daughter and Laura's drunk but she thinks she can play it off like she sober as if like he's not going to know that I'm totally drunk. He's my brother you know. And He of course did and then we went to meet my mom for this to surprise her that my brother and his wife were there and I was visibly intoxicated and I just saw my mom's face sort of fall of her. She was excited seeing my brother and his wife and then she saw me and her face just fell. And I you know had like wine in my purse during dinner dis- I mean as acting like a teenager like teenager. Laura went outside during the party partially to cry partially to calm herself down from the shame that had engulfed her. She's out in the parking lot sitting in her car and she sees her brother come out of the restaurant looking for her and I saw in his face when I approached him. He's like you know there's a party going on inside. He was slightly mad. I could tell But also scared and sad and frustrated and confused and I said I know I'm right here I just needed to breathe and I could see you know his face softened a little bit at that moment and what I wanted to do is make up all kinds of excuses. You like. This is hard and UN. This is why it's happening and all that and I just I just didn't And he said this is your thing like this is just your thing Laura. You can't you can't drink and I said I know and it's it had never been stated like that you know and it was a very simple conversation But I didn't drink a gun after that night. You know it was. It was like that that acceptance of the responsibility part was like now. This is mine. How did it feel to hear him? Say that this was your thing. What made that different? I think until that point I had. I had been trying to find another way like I had been kind of stuck in this purgatory of one foot in sobriety in one foot in drinking still and it was just this very stark acknowledgement between us. It wasn't news to me that you know that that it was my thing but it was just the way it was said and the quietness around it. You know like Cheryl Strayed says. Acceptance is a small quiet room and it was like that. It was like just this moment of. Yeah Yep it is my thing for Laura. Data acknowledgement was a turning-point drinking her thing. Which brings us to number five. This will never stop being your thing until you face it so this to me was about the end of that search for the third door so when I was faced with sobriety it was like okay door number one sobriety door number to continue drinking and I could not accept that those are the two options like no it was a classic bargaining like. This can't be true. There has to be another option. And of course there wasn't an so it's like the extension of the responsibility. You know this will never stop being your thing. It's not GonNa go away. Here's what it means to go through it. It means that it's messy. It means that it's hard. It's not just that Laura took her last drink at her mom surprise party. Her brother set her straighten. Everything was fine now. Laura finally gets thirty days of sobriety. The most she's been able to string together and then she gets an invite to a work party. The thing is nobody at work knows that Laura is sober and trying to stay sober. The Party will most certainly involved drinking. So does she go. She not go. Where's that third door? And how can she crack it? Open slide through. Laura goes back and forth with herself the entire week before the party. Okay I will go no. I won't go. I will go but I'll bring a sober person own. God that's that would be terrible. I don't WanNA bring a sober person. I will fuck it. I don't care I'm just going to go and drink and it doesn't matter And I literally would have to like when I would go out when I was when I was drinking. I'd have to think what's the worst possible thing that could happen tonight? Am I willing to do that? Because that's what I have to be ready for and I think the worst possible thing you know I'm GonNa Sleep with a co-worker AM I. Am I good with that? Maybe okay. That's the risk and willing to take. We'RE GONNA go out so I would go through these. All these mental gymnastics all the time. Laura gets home from work that day and she still hasn't decided she goes for a run. Hoping that'll help clear her head and on that run she decides skirt. I'm going I'm just going to go. I got home got already drove to the train to catch the train for mouse into this back into the city and I grabbed this gross used starbucks cup for my car rank console dumped it out the old coffee and oh I also stopped and got a bottle of wine on the way twist off so I could open it on the train and I was sitting there on the train with this gross starbucks cup in this twist off bottle of wine and it was like watching myself. Do this watching myself pull up at the liquor store watching myself by the wind. Watch myself get on the train. Laura Watches herself. Do all these things that she doesn't really want to do. She doesn't want to break her thirty days of sobriety for this party doesn't want to be on this train but there. She is barreling toward the Boston. Barreling towards the party gripping a bottle of wine in her bag. Laura Tech's sober friend looking for an intervention. She doesn't hear back right away but she also doesn't pour the drink and then the friend. Replies she sent Laura a meditation and Laura did it. Grudgingly fidgeting opener is squirming when it's over. She does it again and again until the train pulls into Boston. I scrambled to get off that train and knew exactly what I had to do. I grabbed the wine bottle grabbed my bag and my starbucks cup and I ran through the crazy train station through people and the crowd and all that and Iran to this trash can and I like through the big the the full wine bottle into the trash can and it made this enormous noise and I like in my mind screams like f you at this thing you know like Oh my God. I can't believe that this is this has so much power over me And at that moment I was like I gotta go back home. I looked at the train station. The train's schedule there was like four minutes to the next train. I bought like two pieces of pizza and that I never ate and I got back on that train home and I was like I made it home and as I pulled up it was like the night that I wasn't going to have played out before me right. Like you're not gonNA wake up with some stranger or potentially you know. Stay in the city somewhere. You're in your own bed you're GONNA be safe. There's no new damage is like the most profound sense of relief but also terrifying because I had just missed it by like a hairsbreadth. And what that meant for me was like it was back to that honesty piece as you say no to that. Invite that party when it comes in. You say no. You don't put yourself through the horror of having those mental gymnastics for two weeks. Because Look Right. You just can't do it. It's okay. Hey you just can't do it so it won't stop being your thing until you face it and tell you stop getting on the train which brings us to number six. You can't do this alone so I really hated. This one really hated it I tend to want to do things my way and to do them alone and not have anyone see me be weak lawrence struggling or in pain a lot of people. Are that way. But you can't do this. We're not meant to do any of this alone whether it's sobriety grief life life. We can't do it alone and it was so such a such a hard thing for me. To put put my head around is still is But in sobriety. It's absolutely true like I needed other people to carry me and remind me what I was doing. And why and to hold up this vision of myself that I couldn't see yet this vision of myself as sober woman a strong beautiful capable sober woman. Laura wrote that one stranger who understand your experience. Exactly we'll do for you. What hundreds of close friends and family who don't understand? CanNot she wrote that? It is the necessary palliative for the pain of stretching into change. It is the cool glass of water in Hell and you need to look at other people and to have your experience reflected back to you who someone who really understands and so. I had to know other sober people or people who are struggling to get sober had to have that and those were not the people in my life at that time they were not my friends and they were not my family. I can't tell you how much that saved me. In how much relief there is in that. And kind of whatever your thing. Is You need that? You need other people who have walked before you 'cause it's an unknown path. It's an unknown pass. And like what? I what I tell people to is like. It doesn't take army of people it can just be one percent. It can start with one single person that understands your experience and that can make up for hundreds of people in your life not knowing what it's really like that one person we're going to take another quick break We are back. Laura has found her cool glass of water in how she's found the people who do understand what it's like to struggle with the same thing. She's struggling with. But what about the people who are still in her life? Her family her friends. What's their role in all of this? I wanted the people who had been drinking with me to understand exactly what I was going through and how hard it was and they just couldn't no one who has gone to that place can understand what it's like to be addicted in the pain of trying to letting that go this thing that you don't want to go. No one could really understand that. They don't get it but they try one night. Laura's mom hosted dinner for their family Laura and her mom. They used to drink together over the years but at this party. Laura's mother doesn't drink she doesn't make a big show of it. She just does not have a wine glass in front of her. At dinner and Laura Notices Laura ditches out a little early in the elevator down to the lobby she realizes crap. I forgot something and has backup. It's been maybe five minutes and she said her goodbyes. And when she walks back into her mom's place her mom has a big glass of wine in front of her. I think was like I'm the barrier now between people and they're real fun or what they really want to be doing like I just it was and I felt so other like now. I'm that person to everybody like if I'm that to my mom I'm now that person to everybody. I'm now on a different. I belong to nobody and I belong nowhere at this moment. Laura weeps on the elevator right down to the lobby because elevators are a great place to cry and I ran through my list of all the people that I know and where they might be on Saturday night and I was like yeah. I don't belong to any of those places. It was crushing It was it was crushing. You know and and since that time I have been able to see that what my mom was doing at that time was just being kind and not drinking in front of me but we see things as we are right. And that's all I could see right now because this was what was going on for me. And all I could see was like where where in the world do do. I belong anymore and I didn't have an answer at that on that night. I have no answer just as a as a crushing loneliness elevator ride. Laura also has a realization. Drinking is in terms problem. It's not a problem for most of the people around her. It's not about her. Drinking is just not there. Thank you so you can't do it alone but if this thing doesn't belong to anyone else if this is just your thing then what so number seven is only you can do it. You cannot do this alone but only you can do it so you need other people but nobody can do this for you like it's yours and people will hold you and people. You know nudge along and people will carry you at times and they will be there but it's yours girl is like this belongs to you and only you can do it. I'm the one who's going to say it's okay 'cause sometimes other people won't right. You have to be the one that says okay. You're okay like you. You messed up ads. We're GONNA forgive ourselves again. So it's that it's being integrity having some alignment between my thoughts and my feelings and the way I act and one version of myself in the world and then also that forgiveness that like contests continual forgiveness for being a human the continual forgiveness of yourself for just being a human that standing up for yourself and carrying yourself and aligning your thoughts and feelings and the way you act that is self love because love is work and love is showing up even when it would be easier to just not so number eight is I love you and when I wrote that it was as if you I because I wrote the things I needed to hear. I wrote the things I needed to hear from myself. And ideally from others but always for myself and okay so when I I about a year ago I was dating someone and he came to me and said I just had a conversation one of my friends and they warned me against dating Yale. I was like Oh really and said Yeah said okay. What did they say said? Well word is it. The rumor mill that. She's a raging alcoholic. Who cheated on her husband and lost custody of her daughter was like. Wow Okay first of all. Ps don't ever day someone who is willing to relate that information to you right it's like So said behind my back. Keep it there. Dip Shit why on Earth would I want to know what someone says? Behind my back. Laura is no longer dating that guy because And she also loves herself enough to know that the things he said even the ones that were true about her addiction and her infidelity fact she never lost custody of her daughter didn't mean that she wasn't worthy of love not just from that guy but from herself. She knows that she is not just the worst thing she has ever done. There is a long time growing up where I would have said. Yeah there some people are gonNA in some people are bad right and I'm one of the good ones and if it's very black and white and one of the biggest blessings of your worst nightmares happening and some of those worst nightmares being about you and your own crappy behavior is like. I don't walk around wondering if people are good or bad. I just know that they're both like we are all magnificent monsters but not all of us know that yet and the ones that do know it and we walk around with our feet in the mud and our hearts stretch toward the sky We know we're not walking around wondering if people are good or bad. We just already know that they're both so the I love you is about that. It's like yes. Those things are true. Yes that happened. Yes you behave that way and it's not who you are. That's never the game. We were playing so I love you. Laura wrote this list in twenty sixteen when we spoke she had five years of sobriety. Drinking alcohol is no longer her thing. Sobriety is her thing and so is digging into everything underneath her alcohol addiction the issues from her childhood and adolescence. We all have a thing. And maybe that thing isn't a huge deal for everyone. Maybe it's just a minor interruption to their daily life but if you're listening to this show your thing might be bigger. It is for a lot of people for a lot of us. That thing can swallow up our whole life. Maybe that thing is a drug and maybe it's constantly chasing the attention of someone who doesn't love us. Maybe it's binge eating or starving yourself or cutting or perfection or being liked or being good or being angry. Maybe it's something I didn't even think to list because they're just so many ways to be awful to ourselves and so many of them are easier to disguise than others. Whatever your thing tell yourself it is not your fault. It is your responsibility. It's unfair that this is your thing but it is your thing. It will never stop being your thing until you face it and you can't do it alone but only you can do it. I love you and very last number nine. I will never stop reminding you of these things and the reason I said that last was because one. We don't get things right on the first try or the second dryer or the ever. Try like we're never never. It's never done in specifically when it comes to ice over coming something like addiction. It's so rare that you'll wake up one day after a bad night and you said I'm never doing that again. And it sticks right when it comes to our behaviors and the things that might be pulling us down relationships habits where we live. What we're doing our work. We tend to ask the normal question that we ask is is bad enough that I have to change like has it gotten bad enough but the question that we should be asking what people ask is. Is this good enough to stay the same. That's good enough really good enough and then the question underneath all of it is mic free. Are you free in your life or does this thing own you in some way that like smashes your spirits consisting own you? Are you able to move through your world and think freely and act freely and behave freely? An people almost always have a visceral response. Like no or yes I am. That's what I want people to ask and I have again number nine. I will never supper my new of these things custody. He asks you have to ask yourself this again and again and again and again to get to the truth I'm Nora mcnerney and this has been terrible. Thanks for asking. Our producer is marcel. Malecki boo production. Help from Jacob Maldonado Medina enemy cock Ross. Is Our project manager. Jordan turgeon is our digital producer Christina Lopez Lauren de Lily. Kim there's always in our hearts and minds and helping us in various ways. Philip Fletcher is our editor. Laura McCowan is online at Laura McCowan DOT COM her book. We are the luckiest the surprising. Magic of sober. Life is available wherever you like to buy books. Our theme music is by Joffrey. Lamar Wilson and we are production of American public media as Marceau dismissal. Credit to Mr John Miller who makes this episode for us?
ATR Special: Inside The Women Of Troy
"They would let China Robinson. Hello and welcome inside a special edition of around the rim. One that tells the story of the nineteen eighty three and eighty four championship teams for the USC Trojans. Their women's basketball program was a trailblazer in. Its own way where they had almost a super team of some of the biggest names in college. Basketball Cheryl Miller Cynthia Cooper panic. Paula McGee What Dynasty. They were what a talented team so fun to watch. I'm your host. Let's China Robinson. Join as always by my fantastic and fabulous producer to Riga foster bradsby. Then we are going to take you inside with some of the biggest names in biggest contributors to the success of that team and people that can tell the story the best. That's right the China so to help us tell that story. We've enlisted. Six people knew this team the best head coach. Linda Sharp assistant coach. Fred Williams team captain Juliet Robinson Point Guard Rhonda Wyndham forward. Pamela MCGEE AND GUARD CYNTHIA COOPER DYKE. So throughout this podcast. You're going to hear them. Discuss their relationships together coming together as a team learning how to play with each other learning each other on the prime that they have in USC and what it meant to be a Trojan and what it was like as far as the landscape of women's basketball at that time the rivalries. I'm you're going to get to know more about the players in from their teammates themselves. And you'll hear clips from Geno Auriemma Reggie Miller. Doris Burke teasha Chiro the nineteen eighty-four Olympics Paula. Mcgee and the cause from the championship games of nineteen eighty three and one thousand nine hundred eighty four. Let's all get a history lesson from the inside of what was so special about USC. Women's basketball in the women of Louisiana Tech University and the University of Southern California trojans outlet more southern California at forward six three junior from Flint Michigan number eleven all over more southern California at Bulwer from Riverside California number thirty one zero southern California Singer. Six three junior from Flint Michigan over thirty southern California had guard a by rescued from New York City. We're southern yard five nine zero number or no question that this point in the history of the game of women's basketball was dominated by USC low-tech Tennessee Lady vol's Odu. What an exciting time to recap to live again. How Women's College Basketball Really League got. Its popular start. Let's listen back on that time and Pam McGee and Fred Williams will share more with us on what those rivalries. We're really like what I'm just telling you when you build those rivalries I was watching the finals. Kill Mulkey and they were interviewing her and they said you know I wanted my took my girl. I took my girls with southern drawl to see that banner that I have been here before and I said Yeah but make sure your girl the mother who nets to it your girl who knock you guys out. Mother Band is next to yours. Because you know that those rivalries just remember it and so We just did not like lock tech and when they had their first arena. They scheduled US and their arena. Sat like eight thousand people. It was a brand new arena and it was packed. Wall to wall people and We went in and one game and that was when we really sat back to say okay. We got something here. This is a special team. 'cause we went into their territory and we want and we beat them on their own court with their first grand opening of this this unique facility and it's in Louisiana and that was like the only show in town and it was packed wall to wall and we came in and we beat them on their own home court. Seventy two zero one. Usc later at the seventy two of the game for Tennessee Lisa Webb. I'm just Kinda go. Choose to say three seconds to go over ten down going there and do something. I think they're ready to celebrate as soon as this thing and I from the bench like a rocket spent fired. Nice Sandra Strauss v at Hobby. Is THEY LEAVE? Hi Five and going on right now. Rally gave it their best shot. You got a super year at Tennessee to really has cousins and my memory would get with Tennessee You Know Pat Summitt starting out the program and really starting to Generate you know her her herself as as a coach and getting great players in and you know that I think the championship game there that one at Ucla at that time the second championship It was just a not drag out battle against Tennessee the volunteers. But I would say we went to scrimmage at that time gold scrimmage and I think the scrimmages against the was more of a game played you know during the course of the season but Tennessee was always tough and I just moved it You Know Pat Summitt. We'd have teamed Reddish always give that stare to the opponents but intimidate storyline may get miss. See how because The personality is so. Big Story is so inspirational. Was that of PAM in Paula. Mcgee the twins had such an interesting dynamic between them as players but also as sisters six three senior number eleven six three senior number thirty McGee. They were a unit. The McGee Twins Paula and pan. And if sometimes people couldn't tell them apart it really didn't matter. They were inseparable. They were co captains and co-stars in high school. All Americans the two times championship team in Flint Michigan but they were co captains and co-stars in college all Americans on a two-time NC championship team at the University of Southern California young gifted and six foot three. They even shared the cover of jet oppose championship trip to the White House and so much more were used to sharing the limelight. We used to say a lot of award. We always look at each other as best friends. They also shared a dream a dream of representing the United States in the Olympic Games. A dream polar kit about two years ago when she pretended to be a TV reporter asking her. All American teammates Cheryl Miller about McGee twins. Nine hundred eighty four Olympic team. What are your plans you want to be on that team? How about the twins? You think that you three can make authored. You can be on that team. I soon arisen where we can coach Linda sharp teammates Julia Robinson Rhonda Windham and Cynthia Cooper help us get to know the McGee twins just a little bit better one of the things about when I recruited them. Their mother came out with them. Diane thank you and She wanted to make sure that her girls Got To a university that had a good academic program and wanted to have a coach that cared about him. And I think recruiting recruiting. Diane was just as much as important as it was recruiting. Pama Paul Magee Pam and Paula. They were In two different positions and definitely different personalities. And what? I recall on some things like if I had to get on. One of my mind is well have gotten on both of them because one of them was gonNA be standing up for the other one and if one was mad at me the other one was mad at me so I had to take care of that sometimes but They they brought an eighty. They brought a presence inside a double. I mean I was playing Paula inside as well as outside at that time and because we didn't have any post at USC at the time and of course they go up against Dan Donovan. Six eight and they had their hands full But I'll tell you what. They stood their ground as freshmen. They they got better each year and There's still to this day different personalities for sure man it was bad it was very sad when policy didn't make the team because I don't want team because I thought both of them and Cheryl should be on that team and PAM and of course sheriff's up that way as well but I think the fact that they only had twelve players on the team and they weren't GonNa put you know a third of the team from FC at the time so it was a difficult situation. For POLYTA handle for Cheryl and PAM to handle. But I think it all works out Paula got Some accolades that in her career as well but never to the point at this stage that Pam Shirl got but I I don't think we could everyone and national championship without that front line with Pam Paula and Cheryl It was such a a trio that a lot of people couldn't you know they couldn't deal with it and like Rhonda said they were running. I mean here are big. Six three running down the floor and foreign layups and all five of them would run the floor and it was beautiful to watch and the women's game was more of a zone type of You know that's what everybody played it to three zone. And then they They haven't really seen a team run like my team and I think that was the biggest difference With Pamela Paul. In fact that they could run with the pro players in it it made. It just took off from team. I know one thing I admired both PAM and Paula. Mckie's They were academics scholars. And I can remember coming in the locker role you know before practice or even sometimes before a game and Paul would have worked out and I you know I try to. I try to bottle. My academic standards fall ever told this but I really try myself successful than that. Maybe do that. I've wanted to be Estudios And concentrate on school. It was just as important Because they will lay that foundation for us and lead by example. And if I can add onto that with Rhonda this is Juliet. You Know Panapa and we called ourselves. We came in the fact that his freshman and I remember when coach sharp took us to the park pantry on Figueroa. And that's when I first met Pam Paula and I thought these were very dynamic women and how the hell was I gonNa tell them apart but one has a mole and we became. We begin to develop a friendship with with these girls and PAM was fears. I don't care what anyone says. Pam was the bad is post in the paint Pam controlled the pain. I always respected him for that and hall. I had a more of a outside for about her. She dribble she could shoot from the outside. But Pam control the paint and so it was fascinating to watch. These girls interact and their interaction between themselves and they were so different in their personalities. Pam was like you know whatever g k the practice run extra line because some Pam did but you a little bit. You know at that. At that time it was given. These girls is one of them block them where they are today. This all three tried to Olympic team. And for the first time Taylor and Pam even though they didn't didn't quite realize that we're rivals. Cheryl Miller made the team Pam. Mcgee made the team. Mcgee did not not strong enough. The coaches decided Paula. Hurt and Pam cried for when you have to sit back and realize that a dream you've had for a long time is no longer attainable. That of course hurts. Pam is trying to follow. Paul was advice tonight as the heavily favored. Us play South Korea for the championship. Paula is in the stands at the four album. Chain like the rest of the Americans probably have a flag waving it. And I've probably because I'll be there wanted to my sister and sherline Lynette and everybody that I normally happy going up with my twin sister. We've been playing together forever. And so sometimes coach. Sharp and Coach Brad will say Tamblyn. Stop arguing because when you have a twin if I if I I would have heard of ball. She was missing. I was like why did you miss my past or or anything but we had that kind of camaraderie and then you had all of us who works three competitive shirl cool we would just ext Rhonda Window. We all were just extremely competitive and so in practice you know I tell. People are practices. Were sometimes more competitive than our game. Because we all understood iron sharpens iron and we all want each other to be at the peak of their game. And so and and to contribute to Cheryl Miller Cynthia Cooper you know people look at their accolades but those were some of the with the work ethic they were some of the hardest working players. I've ever had the opportunity to play with your not. I would say you know for Pam and Paula they. They would choose that you know they. They thought they think a lot. Kinda like very competitive with each other but also with the opponents But I can say that they. They pretty much. They change work with passionate purpose every day. You know when I say they just can't practice practice at the time a lot. You know coach system coach. You know and I go shirl sometime. Go over guard Cynthia Cooper and then you know if I drove a lane I had the lead up against FAM- Apollo in the Middle. And let me tell you they didn't Jimmy easy baskets at all. They just made sure that they want us. The person comes through the middle but There was just so unique for what they wanted. They wanted another championship. They they wanted to Make sure that they were hurt. As a woman and They wanted to put USC on a Map. And keeping a look on a map. Long time in history. What came across very clearly when watching women of troy was the relationship between the players. All personality with Pam Cheryl Cynthia. I mean they were just so fun to watch but they also had an environment that was extremely competitive. And go you work. Our practices are almost some form of them by almost every Sunday now so now to know. Saddam was easier is it was easy to grow. You know easy to get better because everyone was so competitive and it didn't matter if you on the first thing the second team you're you're out there competing with the highest level of talent in the nation in the world and a lot of cases and I try to tell people so much. How Great Shirl Miller was that? They don't get it they. They don't get it because they didn't practice. I guess her play against her same way with the McGee twinkie. Twins had something special because Politika stretch you out and shoot. The three pound was a beast underneath the basket and you just had that combination between the two that when I came in there I was like look. I'm running Paul off the three point line and I'm just GonNa pray begin in front of her. You're you have Vonda coming in with your Miller and sure Miller's gotten all this publicity like Rhonda said she didn't know much about her because she's on the east coast shows in the West Coast and at that time when his basketball players didn't get the note writer. They're getting now and so But they gel together and that's why I wanted to room up together because I knew that they would be really fantastic on the floor and and Cooper okay so you got the freshman class then. You've got the sophomore class with Cynthia Cooper and and then you've got the McGee's and so you've got coop caught in the middle Out of that group and but the leadership that was on the floor and the leadership off the floor had a lot to do with all of that. I think Cooper you know coming from where she came and the rough part of town in La and and then wanted to come from a big city one and then shirl over here from you know Riverside. She's kind of a country bumpkin coming in and Pamela McGee coming in from the mid West there just was A. I don't know it was just the right chemistry and it all came together and the fact that they got to play ball and win two national championships altogether. I think had a lot to say about about the kind of people they work. The accepted each other. They all were different but they had chemistry. That was just out of this world and I was fortunate. I was so fortunate to have you know players accept each other but I don't know I don't know if it was. I accepted all of them for each of 'em for who they were. I don't know if it was that if the players saw the other player saw that in me and then they carry that over to them but I think that was so genuine. How they were. There was nothing ever think about these. These Young Women that I was coaching. You know the China. I think we really saw the bigger picture You know I was. I was able to connect with Cynthia because she was from the city. I was from the city. I connected with Cheryl because we were roommates and then the McGee twins you got you. You have to connect with them. It's things on the court. You gotta get the level over specs for everybody on the team Jay or you Lonzo Fleischer Tomato Font Tracy Longo. Melissa War Leeann Sarah. There was a level of respect for everybody. And you know we. We were young. We were kids but we knew that we had something special in our talent and we knew if we work together we can. It happen and we wanted to win a championship attitude in practice every single day we took. We took pride in going hard and practice every day because it was. We wanted it to be showtime who we got on the court so we knew we took care of our business. We were going to have fun on the core and every two that you know another thing to add to that run into is that that You know when you bring in a freshman. That's got so much well. What publicity women's basketball players got at the time and show Miller She's like this outstanding player and she worked so hard every day. I mean I never saw her. Take a day off in practice and and and so here. You're on the team. Not that the rest of them weren't working hard. But how do you not work hard than the one of the best players in the country is working or tail off? That's the leadership role right there and I think a lot of them they have to jump on it and Paul mcgibbon have the jump on it. Even though they have been the stars before Cheryl and I remember one thing that was really funny about the McGee's coming in as freshmen. They told me coach. I thought we were coming here to play basketball. Not Run cross country because I used to take them home hated. We're doing preseason conditioning. Because I didn't APP received conditioning coaches the head. Coach did it back in the seventies and eighties and and we'd go out on the track and I'd have times for them. They had to meet the time so they ran it over again and it was hard. It was not an easy workout and payment Paul Magee Pollard. Be throwing up on the track and payments be crying and I mean it was hard for six three and You know stay up with the guards but boy they tried. And I don't know how many times Pam Pam how to Redo hurts and reversed over and over again to get time. I don't know if she ever did but she sure got a good workout. It would always seem like as soon as it was. Time for season conditioning would be an Indian summer in Los Angeles we. We didn't notice coach. But sherline I and some other places we would be in our dorm room trying to do all type of dances and seances everything. So maybe we don't have was like the worst thing ever happened to run because we knew Pam was not gonNa make the time that was me back and like run next to her. Like I can't even remember did trying to help him to come on 'cause when I was in college my coach made us run 'em we had seven players on the team and we had to make so many such a short period of time so I thought man. That's a hard drill so I I used it my entire career and the players are three three. We coach sharp. Had A drill that you have to pay three on three for three minutes and whoever law had to run I my team would get up by like four points and I was stalled for a whole minute. How mad like I would be so mad? That's not basketball. That's like shoot up trying to win. 'cause I tell you about the McKee twin? Let me tell you one thing McKee twins and not trying to run the McKay. Twins are not my right we came on. I said well listen. I already know Pam. You Ain't trying to run. That's what I found out. I had to run mouth for time. So Miller five minute mile. That came here to play basketball. I'm not trying to cross country. Cynthia Cooper has miss so much to the history of women's basketball when you think about the Houston comets dynasty the MVP awards raising the roof and it was just for -freshing An insightful to relive her journey at USC along with our very humble beginnings great players all around the League but Cynthia was really the first superstar of the WNBA. And she's really done things in sports that many people can only dream of not that anybody expected that when she came in the WNBA. The reason for the company that Cynthia Cooper began pro basketball career playing in Europe spending eleven seasons in Spain and Italy far from the American spotlight a valued member of the supporting cast of both collegiate and Olympic Championship. Squads Cooper's game what blossom and she would become a superstar. Nobody was following rules going on overseas. But she was nominating. The Italian Lee leading score one championships. People you know about her Cynthia one eight scoring titles while quietly becoming one of the very best players in the world. Well you know. People don't don't realize that you Cynthia Cooper a she didn't really start with the starting lineup for USC. She was more of a player that came off the bench. Four of the six player. And you know I would get in here all the time doing practice after practice. Just tell her that you know you're getting minutes getting playing time and you just have to play through. That never gonNA be one of the key pieces for us. You know when you know championships in Improv Championship. But you know with her. It was just matter her just maturing as a college student and you know having a dialogue how to relate to people they then to see her going on after Her College career to go overseas refiner game and develop outside shot and scoring and then to be drafted into the WNBA in the league. It was just very gratifying for me to see that. Because I know she's she she was gonNA quit basketball and you know me as a coach at that time and then the sharp you know. Enter teammates did not want to lose her dream like that and they go and so that that effort as assistant coaches in her and get her back in school and I think to to Tribute to our coaching staff and the type of family we had at USC And not many people. Don't understand that also you kit. Cynthia and I wanted to run Keti Cup. I play with her empowerment Italy. And we were noted as the best duo. Cynthia and myself was a guard in the big in The Italian league I I played with Cynthia in Italy and we won the wrong Teddy Cup and I already knew she could do because we were friends. You know we played in college and we dominated in Europe. We took the worst team and we ended up winning the wrong Teddy Cup in Europe. And I just saved for Cynthia. Cynthia is not only my one of my difference and One of my sisters in basketball but the best word I can say for her is resiliency if you know she she doesn't know it but I admire her afar because of all the trials and tribulations that she went through a little girl from just what no matter what you throw at her one thing you know about Cynthia Cooper. You could never count her out and she'll never be down for the count. As as one of her best friends and one of the relationship we had a in Italy. I mean are used to call her. She speaks fluent Italian. I used to call her profundity Atlantis. Which pro fun. Don't mean Zeke in Italian and it means that deeper and we don't even know where Atlanta is. That was like that's how you are how strong you are as a black female to come from what to come from and frank and tell you in the documentary you'll see what kind of areas she came from but Cynthia no matter what the world throws her I have always seen her come with resolve and not only. Is She just a talented basketball player and people who talk about her? The Basketball Player. I loved playing with Cynthia. Cooper have is twenty eight points in fourteen boards with Cynthia Cooper because she was an excellent passer when I played with her in Europe so you know and she wasn't sick man on our team and a lot of people didn't know she was on that team. Because Cooper and sure Miller and my step Paul and I got a lot of Inc a Lotta pub. But Cynthia was a six man off the bench like Lou Lou Williams from Six Man of the year like Lou Williams from the clippers and she just ask so much dot death to our team because you would be playing with us and then you say Oh man here come another one. Hey basketball fast. I'm Cynthia Cooper and I've come to your city soon with the Wnba when the WNBA was launched in Nineteen ninety-seven Cynthia sign with the Houston comets. And now she had a chance to show the American fans what she could do. Look the takes it into the middle of the whole Great Mobin store. Cynthia Cooper was one player. Who was incredible. You know she could do basically anything. She didn't really know what she was. GonNa do when she was going to do before. The season many who? Cynthia was certainly don't want us talking about her but she has become the star out this league championship along with her fellow. Star Cheryl soups and Tina Thomsen. Cynthia bills Houston into the League's powerhouse. Houston comets have won their fourth straight championship. It was really a magical time and Cynthia was in very many ways the face of that team in the face of the League these thirty seven years old but nobody can stop her. Well you know I mean I going to. Usc for me was like I was like a fish out of water but the great news is the the Trojan family and my teammates truly helped me become the person that I am today that you remember seeing on the basketball court you know for me. I had to grow Not Just athletically academically. I came from inner city school at the call up emotionally. I really learned everything Really learn how to be successful at USC and PEM. Apollo are such great role models because they were everything a Trojan should be so they they lead by example and then coaching staff right. Our coaching staff for were patient with me. Because I I will admit I was a little rough around the edges a little. You know little brinker much at all so so know. My journey was this. You know I come from the inner city I had. No expectations. Didn't know what to expect. All I wanted to do was play basketball right. They told me that there was more to life than basketball. The opportunity that title nine or forty. Meet the kid from what was amazing. Because now I get a chance to go overseas and playing Italy. Learn another language and all of that confidence. The opportunity came from Channel Nine. The confidence came from USC I didn't realize until watching. This documentary was just how good or should I say? Great Cheryl Miller was as a player in much much more and then Joe came along and it was this kiss. Blake as big as ask you faster than all your gods and he plays at the rim so it was something that was unique to the game at sixty and bog. Twenty-one contest one on one learning curve for myself because she was for Donald Victims and I was the one that was being beaten iron. Shopping is and that's what we really did for each other. And she was she was sure was the first player at her side to have the energy and the skill that a six three post player guard three four hat in that time at that time so she can show for one. That could play the one to the five. Yeah so she wanted she was one of the very first people that could grab that rebound off the rim and lead your fast break stop and pop or finish above the rim. She was the first one to be able to do that and I recall the her. This is the true story. Her first game he had twenty eight and fourteen bores and she came in the locker room. She says I'm going home. I can't play it and I said thorough. What are you talking about? Twenty eight points and fourteen rebounds but I know I thought I could play at this level kept. I'm sure you've got four other players that are scoring that are Abadi double figures. It's not a no ball. You could still average forty fifty point. That's a good good. Staten before freshman serious safety. Twenty eight fourteen rebounds goes on to the next level just to recap on both with him and you're saying about Shirley Sherrod played with a lot of style and flair She chaired about her teammates. A great deal a deal Insurance favor a lot of fear you know because she didn't know what opponents was gonna come out or try to undercut or certain things because she you know she had that jumping ability you know to get to the rim and You'll certain teams will come after the pretty hard with our file stuff so You know she's one of those players and really set the mark. Hi Mark High Bar so you only towards self with fewer and and not only that we will blow teams out by seventy points and I recall her diving underneath the scores table for him. I said see. We are up by seventy. She was like okay. I'm on my bed. My bed know how to play us. That's the level of pressure and expectation that she put on herself you know and and and she brought that to every practice and she brought that to every game and so when when I played fast forward. Wnba and people were wondering why I was coming in practice. Plan like it was. It was the championship series. And that's how I would practice everyday. I learned that USC. I remember when as a high school player. I had my this game getting the car and Ray to kind of gloat a little bit he goes you know I started. I think man that is awesome. And I'm really kind of related to give it to Shirl a little bit and Cheryl Madonna in front. And they're kind of smirking laughing. I'm like yeah we did this. We took a tool and he said I had. I had forty and I my Gosh Reggie. That's awesome hey by the way how did you do? Tonight is divided. The beginning he goes. What sixty shirl kind of looks at my Dad and dad? It kind of looks at like she had one hundred and five. I was like Oh it was unbelievable until last night in Riverside California. The game broke eight national and state records and the winning teams best player. Got One hundred five points to be in the same household with arguably the greatest women's basketball player. Right down the hall. You can win. You couldn't win two documents the rise but also the fall of Cheryl Miller was almost a gut punch for me. I did not realize that. Her career was over at the age of twenty two coming from my perspective. Shirl injured herself after I had already left. Usc so my perspective with trump. The fact of just having athlete injured a knee in the state. Shirl may have been in. It is devastating. You don't even realize the impact of your knees until you enter your knees and you cannot walk. You cannot stand you cannot straighten them you cannot bend them correctly. That is devastating. It was devastating for me and supporting actor team and I can only imagine what what surely at that time. I had a partial ACL tear. And I I mean I'm thirty years out and just recently had stem cells on my knees so I can only. It is devastating to change the course of your life here. You are here. You are thinking that okay. I'm going to move forward of this whole athletic arena and it comes to a dead fricking stop. The benefit for me was that I was supporting cast. I came into view with knowing that I was paying my way as and you live in USC as a stepping stone for me to get to the next level of where. I was going so I came into USC without understanding and yet it was devastating to me. So I can only imagine how devastating this was to meal to Cheryl. What did you think when you heard that because I remember one of the things out to me in the documentaries when you talked about you gave Cheryl Miller number? You were like Oh you can have this. You know. We're about to do things so when you heard that basically she was injured in would not play again. What what went through your mind. It broke my heart. I understood her pain and her physical pain. Not even we're not even talking about the emotional and psychological pain of all that because there was a deep there had been extreme and psychological paying associated with that but it broke my heart because shirl was one of the best players in this game and shirl- deserved to showcase to showcase her talent at higher level. She deserved that right. And for that and taken from her I mean he broke a lot of heart broke. Everybody's back yeah. It really was happening. I was in the gym when she when she hurt her knee and she was training and playing against guys so she could go and continue to play in USA basketball. In fact I think she was trained for the Panamerican Games and I just couldn't believe that she made it reverse pivot and you know just rector knee. I'll never forget the day she did it 'cause that was the anniversary USA basketball quite frankly that they were ready for Panamerican Eighty Olympics and You know I know. She would've played in the Olympics in eighty eight. She hasn't been hurt. But the The thing about shirl that that I think Kinda consoled her. Some was the fact that she could She was in broadcast journalism. And that was. That was the academic year that she really wanted to excel in. And I I thought well she's not GonNa play anymore and it shows a smart woman and I think she had that to look forward to and she was she was kind of a bitter and upset about all of it and everything and I was going to an event in La and I. I think it was ABC. There was a man that was gonna be there. He was a nasty guy and I can't remember now but He wanted to meet share and I knew this and I told her she needed to go with me. To this event she didn't WanNa go and as you guys know. Get NEAR THE GO PLACES. Sometimes because she pretty much a homebody It was was tough but she finally agreed and I introduced her to this. This on sorry. I can't remember saying it was. It was back in eighty. Oh Gosh eighty eighty seven. Maybe eighty six eighty. It was eighty seven and when she met him they got to talking and he hired her. He hired her to come and work for him. So it was. It was a good thing that She went one and I was so happy that she had an opportunity to go to work for ABC. And I think from there she just you know opened the doors for it to other opportunities but I I think that helped her And I hope I hope she feels like that. I don't know if she remembers that part of it but I felt good that I could guided into something you know. I met somebody that wanted to really talk with her and So you know I feel good about that direction. She went and she did an excellent job. She's worked for Turner. She's seventeen years and now she's working for Fox In radio and I think she really enjoys that part of her career as well as coaching of course but She's she's she handled it well. After that I I know first hand you know what it feels like to You know have a devastating injury. I blew out my knee Down in Colorado Springs at the Olympic Training Facility and I had told reconstruction back in the eight Fortunately I was able to play again. But you know you're never the same and here we are. You know what thirty five years later and I just had a total knee replaced and you know nothing nothing can ever replace basketball basketball. Is something that you know. You can never replace it but you know with with coach having lift weights early on the way to something that. I've been able to do my entire entire life after that. It's like my body craves it and You know you try and find other things to give you that Russian that energy but I mean there's there's nothing that compares to it and you know I remember when Sherwin sure actually and tried out for the eighty eight Olympic team. But she wasn't ourselves you know. She wasn't herself if she wound up. I don't know if she tweaked her knee. While we were there I went with her to try outs in Colorado Springs I know if he tweaked it me when she was there but she wound up leaving early 'cause she just wasn't she wasn't able to to to end the game on her trump's And you know it's still a little painful but you know. I think this documentary happening at this time and really establish replacing his Korean kind of reminded people what she did what she was a part of you know. I think that's something not only that she should be proud of. But we're also very proud to thank you all for sharing that. I know it's not A. It's a very difficult topic but I think it's important especially for young people to understand that a career is not promised injuries happen but also the impact of injuries. Once you're you've moved on from the game that's the part that sometimes They don't tell you in as far as just taking care of your body and making sure that hey when basketball is done you're gonNA WANNA walk around for the next eighty years that so You know that it's something that should definitely be talked about more especially because of what happened. To the legacy of of Cheryl Miller. I mean amazing amazing player but you can only think of. She was allowed to play beyond at full strength beyond the age of twenty two. What that would have meant for women's basketball things were so different back then in the landscape of women's College basketball and thank goodness for title nine and thank goodness for coaches like Linda. Sharpen administration like they had at USC to be able to give women's basketball the platform the resources the opportunity to thrive the way that they did. This documentary represents athletic excellent and it also recognizes our academic activists. Well which is the true trove and tradition which we are representing here day. Champions Trust teammates and that that is so true with that. Usc Group and food today any championship. You've got to trust your teammates. You've got to trust your staff To trust the process absolutely because remember the China off the bench. And if I didn't trust the process I would quit. I would've stopped you know years and years later. I'm a hall of Famer but back then I was a role player. So you've got to trust it and and for me I just want to piggyback. We see teams today and we're twitter and social media. I want piggyback that. It takes five fingers to carry the trophy and with that team. We really worked together. We were family and we set a standard and even today we have our reunion. We try to hook up at least together once a year. Those I can tell people that beyond basketball each and every person on that team on my soul sisters you know God puts people in your life then minister to your soul. It was just so much more than just basketball. We were a family. The entire Trojan tradition and the Trojan family set a standard our athletic director. Who was the first at first athletic director over men and women? She just gave us a standard and she mentored us and so now what. You've seen documentaries set a standard. It is my belief as as as team captain team that we and this legacy is that we are the chosen. Usc We have children and we through this documentary. We have come home. We WanNA say a special. Thank you to everyone that. Listen to this podcast. Who all of our guests to. Hbo Chuck Kingsbury. Yes and we also like to thank the WNBA. Classic Basketball Archives NC Double A. ARCHIVES. And the winning time documentary for the use of the audio clips that were used are fantastic fabulous producer. Teresa Foster Bradsby. We hope that you enjoy this history lesson on the women of Troy you for listening to around the rip checkout more podcasts from ESPN on the APP.
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"This is an mp think radio podcast to hear previous shows. Bizet mvp online dot org or download the mp be public radio app to listen on your iphone or android phone on demand from mpv. Think radio this is fixing improvement. Show to help you do it yourself. I'm jason klein here. With pam ashi certified inspector inspect it like a girl and licensed contractor. Jeff simmons from house works if you typing in the background. That's a one thousand nine hundred seventy two keyboard that pay him uses anyway Today we you know. We've just tiptoed into march You know there's still plenty to get done around your home in that place right now. I can't decide. I desperately want to do an outside project but still several inside days. You know i don't know so anyway. Join the conversation with this morning by calling. Eight seven seven. Npr ring. that's eight seven. Seven six seven two seven four six four or send an email to fix it one at b. online dot org. How are you guys this morning pam. Jeff i'm awesome now that the sun's out. Oh tell me snowed led. The sun is out to three pads on the rail. Four four building pants on the ground that we can finally start in something going. We started our fourth handicap full house spilled so Yeah it's It's quite exciting in the sunshine. And so i have nothing to complain about good for you. Good for you pam. how about you. Well you know Couple of things this woman and construction week. I didn't know that. So i'm gonna like maybe have a party or sell do something to celebrate. That's just awesome cool instruction week. Yeah yeah a whole week. Just for pam right. Yeah hallmark hallmark cards for that. There will be now. You said it there will be now maybe i. I need a patent that no to celebrate that. I'm actually. I am going to jump outside on my next project. I was helping a friend of mine. we hired a crew to put in a french drain for them and Got it mostly and before the rain started last week but i was checking out. The weather forecast. I've needed one at my house for quite some time. So i think i'm gonna cap off women and construction week by installing french shrine. Oh that's a good idea and sounds like plenty of work for you all right. Well i've got the whole. Doug okay well you know what. Now that the whole the whole is doug that's fine. It's that's the worst work ever it is. It's the worst thing nastiest thing and then all the rain started. So i gotta clean it out. But i have one of those mantis Tillers bar that. I'm telling you okay when i get doing yes you can't i won't charge you thank you. I appreciate that money. Nice of you. So one of the things i was thinking. It's funny. I drove this weekend. I went by a small kind of hardware store and also went by one of the big boxes and they were both slammed on saturday absolutely slammed and then of course it got cold again and i thought i wonder what all those people bought that day to work on their their seventy degree day and now it's thirty five again so we're just in that place where i i don't like i said for me. I have inside projects for the winner. You know like. I painted the kitchen. That sort of thing you know. And then i have outside projects fences decks and stuff like that for the for the spring ready for this spring ones to start and being outside the sippy. You could do your outside project one day and you're inside projects. The next day that right mississippi brain fine warm. Yeah ice storm and twenty degrees one weekend and the next weekend. It's eighty one right. So it brings shorts toboggan anyway. A march is women's history as Women's history month and we want to take some time to recognize national association of women in construction according to the us bureau of labor statistics. Women on women make up ten point three percent of the construction industry. We know this to be true because pam is the point three in that march march seven through thirteen twenty. Twenty one is national women in construction week and was created to highlight women as visible and viable component of the construction industry. This is we talked about this a little bit last week when we were talking about. Hey when your kids are thinking about what they might do for a living. Don't count this out folks. This is this is a great thing and yes of course is absolutely open to women and one of the things is the people that make the most business in construction or what we call craftspeople. You know They're very specialized people who deal with specialized products and they can make quite a bit of money and those things are typically more detail oriented. So that's the kind of person that you are. You can get into that or if you're just like me like to swing a hammer got those jobs too so But do look into this March seventh thirteenth national women in construction week and it was created in highlight and construction. So look into that anyway. We've got a good day of calls and e mails. I wanna start off This morning real. Quick with a with a with an email. That i got guys in. It's just really this one. This one is tough okay. So has anyone been successful. This part of the question is has anyone been successful putting up. Tv brackets on plasterboard wall. Oh i can feel this one already. I seem to be having a nightmare with mine. I'm using proper plaster award plugs in the correct thickness grew for the plug. But still it's still won't hold up properly. And i haven't even attached to the tv yet. So what do you guys think. Dr work plastic before one thought that i had putting up a large. Tv like that rather than trying to put. The the tv bracket to the plaster is maybe get a piece of wood which can like a panel of wood. Which could then be attached to the plaster properly and then the tv mount can be attached to the piece of wood now is just a thought i had. What do you guys think about that jason. That you took the words right out of my mouth. Get a big enough piece of. Would go stud stud right be it a two. By twelve whatever And go stud stud Plaster is There's a reason we don't do it anymore so that that would be my suggestion. The other suggestion which is to labour-intensive cut the plaster out. Put your blocking back in and then try to patch your plaster which is just it's too labor intensive and too expensive well and that's you know and i don't know if if if a lot of folks know that if you've not lived at home you know built you know i guess before the seventies you know that if you lived in a home like that before plaster walls if you take a nail a small nail and you hold it up to the plaster and you use a hammer to tap in there. It doesn't put the nail in the wall. It cracks the wall off the wall. It literally. it just falls off in your hands so so it. It doesn't work like a going in taking care of. It is not a friendly product now so all right well. What's the weight load on plaster. No idea you gotta get to that status and just the cheer. How much labor did it take to do that. Because it's all over laugh put your framing material. Then you laugh then you put your medal then you put your plaster man. That sounds like a lot a lot. Yeah i like jeff's idea. I would probably get me a nice piece of You know go out to the big box store. Give me a nice piece of wood or something and then attach that to my studs and then put my bracket on that all right we got. We got a phone call guys. It's avery in madison's on the funk she's been waiting a minute what's going on. Every i've got questions on two garages that i have. One of the house was built in. Nineteen fifty gets on conventional foundation but they attached a garage with a concrete floor but moisture is always there any time it rains. It gets real wet so they probably put it down with martian without a moisture barrier. So my question. What can i do to Correct that i'm not getting anything. I'll didn't get that one through so what he's got he's got water on. Is this a. Did you say it's a basement no it's garage and attached garage garage with a conventional foundation house right with a conventional foundation house. But it's it's getting water guys. How much water resisting getting's are a well. It's it it. Just whenever. I have a heavy rain sometimes. Water my wash in other times. They just when when. The weather is very humid More sure we'll just appear I guess it comes up from the ground so it's just a thin thin layer layer of moisture. Is that that That he seemed coming up after rains. that that he seeing come up and i don't know if there was any weather weather work done on the concrete. When you put it down you know if there was any land prep work or anything done. Every i think not The house has already been built when we bought it. So i'm assuming they didn't put any more secure barrier but it sweats all the time. Basically just guys. It's a carport. That sweats. And so and i you know. The they didn't really change any of the dirt of going in they just basically concrete over not really thought of any preparation or anything like that. What can be done at this point. Well let me tell you something that a personal experience. I've had with this project that we're doing over bell we were putting in. We did some foundation work. And then we're coming in and behind it and putting in a french drain and when the contractor doug day on There was sub surface water really underneath the concrete. Yeah well it was and we think it's coming from an adjoining a lot. So there was water moving toward the house. So i'm really interested to see what's gonna happen now. That we've put in a solution to divert that water you know. We may have to come back and do some adjustments on the foundation but if you've got subsurface water really the best way to tackle bat in my opinion is to get either or foundation person who's used to putting in these french drains and and look at putting drainage some type of drain around it. No you know it's funny. You mentioned that pam. We're doing a foundation repair madison right now and i think we could add about sixty three islands. Well we dug our exterior pilots. Okay came back. The next day or holds were full of water or water so the most story short here we we put in a sub surface subsurface drain. To and the thing was the water's coming from up above the neighbors a little higher so the water's coming from up above so week. We'd basically put a damn if you will in it's not it's a drain and that carries at subsurface water Away from that foundation. Something interesting to jeff whenever you do that. What we've found in older lied is that there had been a drain and a tree had grown into it. Well that can happen to now. I'm not sure this is a problem. So i'm going to answer avery's question another way. It simply sweating or if it is conversation on the slab caused by there was no plastic. Put down before. We poured the slab that that would that would create that. So if if that's what it is. I think pay him that. We can simply put in a poxy coating over the existing garage slab carport slab and take care of that moisture problem if it is truly soak surplus water. You don't want to trap that water because now you're to start building head pressure and make the problem even worse. So yeah. That was my concern. Is that boxy down right now. You really were. Were answering these questions over the radio right so i think we. I think we've given two answers to the water. I hope that helps out. It is time for our first break of the hour when we come back. We're going to answer your home improvement questions and tackle these end of winter fixes and yet they're out there Also if you have any questions about your recent home improvement projects call us at eight. Seven seven m pb ring. That's eight seven seven six seven two seven four six four or send an email to fix it one one at n. p. b. online dot. Org we'll be right back. hi i'm rider. Taff portfolio manager new perspectives. A fee only financial advisory and co host. Money talks each week. We take your personal finance questions and tell you about money topic. We hope you find helpful. Money talk can be heard tuesdays at nine. Am on 'em pb. Think radio podcasts can be found on our website. Money dot m. p. b. online dot org or on your smart devices podcasting platform proposing to fix it one on 'em bb. Think radio on jason klein here with pam pilots s you certified inspector at inspect girl and licensed contractor. Jeff statements from house works. Join the conversation this morning by calling. Eight seven seven m. pb ring that date seven seven six seven two seven four six four or send an email to fix it n. p. online dot or we're gonna do one of those emails right now here guys. Wow pam. I know you've seen this one hundred times here we go. I just replaced an old smoke alarm. That was wire in the new one runs off batteries and no longer needs to be wired. And can i just cap the wires that were there before and tuck them behind the new smoke alarm. I hear giggles. Go ahead and throw throw the flag down. Now y'all go ahead and raise to talk. Well i mean you really need to buy smoke detector it's gonna The one of the things about those that are wired in like that jeff in it that they i mean so if the one in their bedroom goes off it sets the one off in the side of the house most definitely and that's the reason we do that if if let's just say you have a two story house or if you have a bonus ring and We want every alarm in that house going off so most definitely go get them one and and they're cheap. They're they're not expensive. Go go get the one that is wired in you can get them at any of your lighting stores and simply unplug and plug back in now. The one that plugs in also has a battery in case your power goes out right so okay does that i cannot. I cannot tell you the amount of fires that my company has worked on and there were no smoke detectors. It's very dangerous. So that's a. It's a real stickler with me. Check your smoke detectors please though right. Let's go to the phone right now. We've got jackie and summit on the line. What's going on jackie. We have a farm on old garage concrete floor and there's oil On the floor. What can i do to remove it or zorba for kleenex. She oil dr pepper. Yeah i believe it to you guys. Could it over ice. Or put it on your ole sign. It works both ways and works both ways. Yeah and what it does to your guts totally different though because if he claims that stain what's it doing. Must now obviously the older the stain the less affective the dr peppers it works. It works wonders on fresh. So i would start with that in See if that does improve. I cannot believe we're recommending a soft drink. I mean i'm just saying okay so let's Let's keep moving. Thank you very much. I hope that helped. I'll read the question. Let's keep on going to let's keep going to richard and brandon richard. What's going on good morning question about everybody running into sooner or later. What isn't sure for sure. Fire way of finding a stood behind the sheet. Rock wall okay. We've had a couple of answers to that recently. And and i'm gonna give you the answer that i have and then i'll handed off to pama jeff because apparently this is a feeling things something that you like this method better than that method. Because there's a lot of different ways mind is there's this one thing i hate to call the name of this thing. Because the worst name of a product ever it's called the stud buddy but it basically is about a seven inch long yellow magnet. This you rub around the the The the sheet rock and as you go by the sheet rock it basically shows you where the screw heads are for where it went from the sheet. Rock to the stud. So that's basically how you're locating. Your dad is by finding the head of the metal. Screw that goes into it. That is the method that that i use Does that have you ever tried that. One i try some years ago. And i don't remember having lots of szeswith i guess i can find again but that's what most trying to. Well let's let's see real quick We might have some other options Pam jeff how do you guys do it or what do you use. Well is a flashlight. Flashlight is foolproof. I for jeff. Tell us tell us out. Works would put a flashlight. Turn the lights off in the room darker the room the better it works. Turn lights off. Put your flashlight on the floor shining up the wall and just roll it down the wall you will see every nail head and screw head in that while what with the light on the floor that we not on. But it's like eight thousand dollars you get a flashlight for. What a hundred bucks a good one hundred bucks yeah. You're good one. I mean there's nothing you can't reply. I mean a good flashlight folks get a good one. don't get those cheap ones cost efficiency. The studs are on your wall. I don't think you have to spend much more than two eighty eight on this but You can buy hundred dollar. Flashlight can watch flying squirrels at night. Insert try it. I think you will call back in and say you know what that thing works. Pretty good i. It really does of all right so Hope that works out for you. Richard very cool. Let's keep all moving number to call is eight seven seven empty ring. That's eight seven. Seven six seven two seven four six four okay. Another email that came in here. We go guys. We have an a while we have an older home that has solid wood doors throughout the interior. Nice very nice. My two year old is going through a door open closing phase that translates my ears is slamming because the doors are so heavy. And i'm looking for good solution to make the doors harder to slam. I've seen dampers online. But they mostly seem like engineered for what i need even though about Stacking rubber washer between the pin and the hinges to see if that would slow the action sufficiently. Had you solve this problem. Diy or otherwise. I solve this problem with I'll just say for my personal thing. We had this issue on an outside door. It was like a screen door and every time one of the kids would come in the screen doors. would would pull back right with the springs springs. Pull it back. Wow i am into the into the side of the door frame. So what i did was i went out and i got one of those things that you see on the inside of screen doors which stops door from slamming in. It's that kind of pneumatic rod. Thing you know you put one side on the frame of the door in one side on the door and it won't let you slam the door. Read someone way all right. What do you guys think you know another way. A two year olds What's the attention span is or so he's going to grow out of this thing just a few months right so you're here a year saying the best. Diy for this project is ear plugs. Loan will quit one day. Well our just take the door off. Until they outgrow it really take all of his interior doors off. Why i don't have any doors okay. Doors are so over rated. What do you think except for the bathroom right. Well we know where we stand so folks time for another break. We're going to take a break. We'll return. We'll still have time to answer your questions. Also look at all kinds of options for home improvement. If you want to join. Today's show give us a call at eight seven seven empty ring. That's eight seven. Seven six seven two seven four six four or an email to fix it. Pb online dot. Or we'll be right back Hi larry morrissey with the arts commission reminding you to tune in for the arts. Our we have in depth conversations with mississippi artists writers musicians and other creates. The mississippi arts are every sunday at five on. Mpr radio or download as a podcast. You're listening to fix. It won a one on m. bb think radio. I'm jason klein. Here with pam certified inspector at inspector like a girl in licensed contractor. Jeff salmon's from mouse works joined the conversation this morning by calling eight seven seven in pb ring. That's eight seven seven six seven two seven four six four or send an email to fix it one zero one at n. p. b. online dot or are a so this morning we've got a. We've have a colorady java. We ready for that. Okay yeah right so let's go to the phone. We'll go to john for mobile and he's got a comment on finding those studs you with john. I'm with you. i'm seventy two years old. And i've done a few remodeling projects in my day. And i do have a stud finder. But when i need to find a stuck i tapped the walls my finger listening for the change in the sound and with that i take a sixteen inch drill bit tiny hole i come out with would i'm good bye. Don't i feel. I feel hola okay. So what john. John is saying that he bare knuckles. This thing pam literally. He has like the unicorn magic knuckle he can knock on the wall and hear the different tones that right. Yeah if there's no sta you get a hollow sound when you get you get a bit of a louder sound of you say okay. There's there's there's something back there works with cantaloupes to the thing that he's saying is Pam is that you know you can knock along the wall and kind of feel where the tone changes because the would behind and that is absolutely true. I will tell people. I've used this method. A hundred times up also missed the stud about one hundred times trying to use this method so it is. It is a refined art. I would say What do you guys think about that. Method jeff i. I tend to agree with you i. I'm not that good. But now i've heard of people doing it seeing people do it You know again like the flashlight but hey that's reason there's chocolate and vanilla dad's right man. Good man all right Got another caller on the leonard. Who helps out. Stephanie is on the line and memphis. Oh oh and she may have some experience with this slowing the door from waking her up from our two year old child banging stephanie with me. Yeah i'm here. Thank you enjoy your show They make little softeners sound softeners for your kitchen cabinets and other other things so you can just fix those on the door and it muffles set sound perch although it might keep it from latching in which case you got an exact you can narrow it down. But there's that okay she's saying these are softeners there. Are there like these things that you can like pads. I mean like those felt pads well. They come in cell but they also come little rubber they. Some of them are clear. Some of them were white but their specific the kitchen cabinets to soften the sound of a close their specific to kitchen cabinets. There felt or rubber. I bought some awhile back when a redid the kitchen cabinets in my house. And i use like these little. It was almost like a clear plastic dot that it just like stuck to it and yet when you close the door instead of going would to. Would you know it. hits that rubber. So you're a little bit. Assuming you're doors are so tightly. Cut that the. They won't take any more room. You know what i'm saying. Well put put a stop side not not not the j. m. but the but the stop okay all right on the stop yes yes okay all right. We'll keep moving with that. Thank you very much in ooh. Let's get to an email. we just got that one in Okay i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask but take the door off of my g of and so i can really get in there to clean it. And we'll i need help. I thought was man. You want to cling. I'm not about to take some apart understand though because when you're light leaning over that thing trying to get in there that's a long is it is and you know what i have terrible visions of my poor mother and my childhood trying to clean the oven from three boys in the family so god knows what was on the bottom of that oven but a poll claiming thing on the end of it so i can just stand there. Put the poll in there and scrub around. Okay i'm saying like you use a now not gonna use the same one. You have the little rod that used to clean your toilets that's true so poll would let me ask. Can you take the door off. I mean i guess you can. Of course it went on there. Someway well off is never as much problem as putting back on. That's true that's true. I am so good at disassembling stuff to put it back together right. It takes me a minute to get it all back together. Well you know keep in mind. Those are those not maybe not necessarily spring loaded hinges but there. Those are self closing inches. So it's not you know. There is a little bit of technology there. But i would think that you could take the door off If i am absolutely dead set on taking the door off. I'm probably going to call my friend. Google yeah yeah. I would definitely look that up and i would take pictures along the way when you start to undo a screw. Take a picture. Take a picture. Yeah yeah our video the home process so you can do it and let me mention this injia because you build houses. The next appliances are smarter than me. Yes yes yes. I'm just not sure. I'm taking the door off. I i just. I don't see the value but i'm not the one that does the cleaning either. So yeah maybe. Tom for a new oven You because you've gotta clean it trading cards because you need tires that's dumb but reason right. Listen wicked justify anything right. All right folks one of our favorite guests on the show here older not meaning because they're all because they've been calling for a while but timothy off the grid in louisiana's read he's here to tell us about power and phone and and mamoru. Where were you three weeks ago. I was in buying my hand into cnn. And the women power timothy liters timothy. Timothy has not lost power and thirteen years because he's been on renewables that he designed himself in his backyard. Think so timothy. What were you going to say today and two years ago was cistern kept to the bar. You know what happens. Rain sixteen sixty downs. Wow so okay. wh- timothy is saying is that he got a pam couldn't hear that but he got a system last year and it made all the difference in the world especially think about that water and everybody else in the world losing their water. Losing plumbing losing all that other stuff. Timothy's over their role minute it. He didn't use any the utilities that got turned off. So he's just fine timothy once again. You've proved to be the smarter mouse in this situation. So thanks a lot. We appreciate you calling no recalls eight seven seven. Mpv rain. that's eight seven seven six seven two seven four six four. Okay so i've got The email here. Thank you so much for your show. I've got a few questions. What do you recommend for the holes in grout. That's that's a tricky question. We've talked about this on the show before and Talked about how yes. You can have dips and holes. Almost where the grout may not have been put in solidly enough. The first time and they make the holes may bust open. The one thing you can guarantee is that you'll never put grout back in there. That will look exactly the same as the ground. That's currently in there. Even if you purchase the exact same color from the same store or same company everything so one thing you could do if you want to if you want to make it perfect you take the ground out and regret But what what is another way to deal with this. You've got little holes in your grout. Where i mean you can patch it. It just won't look the same. What do you guys think you know. We we run in this situation a lot with. Doing you know kitchen remodel or bath remodel and we leave the existing tile. We will go in and marie out the entire area so when you have somebody go in and just kind of dribbles everything out in the first day and then we don't necessarily go to that expense unless the customer wants to pay for that you put you can put new grout over old grouch. Just clean it good. Oh and and you know it's it's kind of like painting your your walls. You could spot pay but if you'll pay from corner to corner you're probably going to come out with a little bit better situation so just re grout entire floor cleaning it. Rebounded floor backslash. Whatever you're doing and it's a great idea okay. Well that does take a lot less effort than my way. Well you know. It's it's a lot more cost effective than chip. And all that grout so right all right. Thank you very much number to call is eight seven seven. M p b ring. That's eight seven seven six seven two seven four six four. Let's go ahead and take another last break of the hour in if you wanna get your call on. You still have time for your home. Improvement question costs with your questions. Comments just tells what project you're working on eight seven seven m pb ring. That's eight seven seven six seven two seven four six four or send an email to fix it what i wanna be online dot org. We'll be right back. This is fixing wanna one on. mtv think radio. i'm jason. Climb here with pam as she certified inspector and an inspector lucky girl and licensed contractor. Jeff simmons from house works all right this morning. We are answering your calls. All kinds that were getting. We've got joey right now in oxford on the line. Joe are you with us. I'm your with gas joey. can you hear me. Yes sorry i guess. There's a delay in the phone. You go ahead man Tell us what's going on. Well i i was just comment on the two earlier topics around The stud finder and then also the slamming doors My suggestion is you know with a lot of the newer stud finders. If you make an investment of about thirty dollars you can get a stub ponder that not only locate your studs but will also let you know if there's any piper electrical late in behind it I've found to be handy for myself especially being newer home. Oh Where i'm not running the risk of you know finding the stuff and then drilling into something that Late in behind And then secondly with the door I do agree. The cabinet dampeners The little wrote Rubber pads do work but sometimes because of how hard they are. And it's it's a solid wooden door You still kinda get some of that slamming. But they do make a seal That's actually on the script. It's made out of foam and it's less than a quarter of an instinct. And what i found was my doors is if you put those in the corners of the doors It'll stop that slamming and at the same time it doesn't push the door frame where it latches far enough away where the don't worry doesn't watch any longer. Those those are just my two suggestions for anybody. Running into those broncos thank you. That was fantastic did you did you guys get to hear that Pam and jeff. We did yeah Talking about those two suggestions that's fantastic and one thing you mentioned was spin it a little money on a decent stud finder so that it can tell you where your electrical and plumbing is also. There are a couple of those things really neat that you can plug in to your your smartphone. And i'm not saying they're cheap but you can plug it into your smartphone and basically see inside your walls I know that sounds crazy but but if you look online you can google issue too but You can see. There's it's a gadget you put on your cell phone and you can look behind the wall and see a plumbing pipe or a electrical line or study in the wall so something look for their. I can tell you in the construction and home improvement industry however much you wanna spend on. The tools is however much you can. They all make a tool for you in charge as much as you want so however you choose to do that anyway. Let's go real quick. We got an email. i lost their. We got what are your recommendations for sealing fireplaces this kind of scared me a little bit guys when it rains hard. There's leaking on the inside of my fireplace. Okay okay so so somewhere waters getting in when it rains to your fireplace my feeling on fireplaces is this is never been a diy area. What do you guys think about. This could be a chimney cab as well. Some come down if it is as simple as the chimney cap. Yeah very simple very easy to fix. Now what we have found over the years these masonry fireplaces when you get up to the very top of the cap only covers the flu but the actual chimney is bigger than the flu. Obviously so it covers the flu. So what they do. They take mortar and bebel. That down will the first thing that will deteriorate on the power place. Is that exposed more. That's a good leak point Flashing the the where the chimney comes through the roof is excellently point. Your cricket behind the chimney is a late boy. did you just say cricket cricket crooked. Okay you're gonna have to do better on that. What what does that can help me with this. But a cricket is a piece of Normally made out of metal and it saab when the water comes down the roof instead of it hitting just that flat part of the chimney there would be almost like a inverted pyramid. Almost are half of a pyramid. Okay so in the walk down it hits and it and it flows around the chip. That's called a cricket. Okay so there are so many late points on that thing But hey m suggestion of a chimney cap and then the other thing that we always recommend a product called salak sane it can be sprayed on masonry will not change the appearance of that product. And it does seal. It's a very very good product of used it personally many many times so this is something i can do well again. You're you're on your roof. So oh well yeah in aid to hire jeff teenage sons. He sends his kids up on the metal roof. Right yeah right. Never call eight seven seven in pb ring. That's eight seven seven. Six seven two seven four six four. We were talking about women and construction going into this and pan. I gotta ask you know we. We heard your story when you first started. But what and. I know that you had construction in your family right. I did yes How did that happen. How did you end up landing in a profession that has at this point. Only ten percent females in this profession. And i've got to believe that that's a high point. You know what i'm saying. It is for home inspectors that the national average for home inspectors with the american society of home inspectors says about one percent of inspectors are female. Gosh opening it is a wonderful opportunity. Wonderful opportunity and when i started it back in two thousand and three i really shot away from letting people know always female thinking that it would be a detriment right but what i found was that it gave me this amazing opportunity because people started saying we won't that we won't that lady to do the inspection right so i Really began to see a lot of my business coming. Because i am female and we. I mean inspect it like a girl is Re actually our tagline as we look better of never known that it's also inspected like a girl because we looked better in that gray mouse on now. I wish i thought that all by myself. But i have to give the credit another galley worked with this for a while but yeah women who And it's it's a great career for women who don't want to sit behind a desk more. Don't want to have to you know work in an office. The construction industry is just wide open and there some female builders here and the jackson area were all some. Oh boy they do such a great job right so i would really encourage an and all open myself up. I mean you can email us here at inspect it like a girl will do it at we can do it at inspect it like a girl dot com if you have any interest and I actually mentor quite a few women around the country Who were getting into this. Oh have a passion to see more women involved in the construction industry. And i'm going to guess on On jeff but i will let him respond. i think jeff Doesn't care what sex. The person is on on doing his job as long as it's properly done inada efficient absolutely. I'm gonna tell you right now. It said it many many times. We need young people in this industry. And i mean all he didn't say jenner just sound young people. I promise i do not care win. Painters let trish in many scenario sheet. Rock framers plumbers. Hvac and guys. I'm telling you right now. There is a tremendous living in this. You can make a heck of a lot of money. That's true that's true. All right folks. 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What house which could be as big elaborate or simple and wholesome as the president and their people decided so in fairly stepped inside her house. She was unsurprised to see that. It very much resembled the forest. If on the inside the walls were thicket of brambles alternating thorns with beautiful flowers that would bloom every morning and close up to sleep every night. The biggest difference was at the white house wasn't nearly as empty as the forest of people clamored about all shouting for their president at once. Really good talent. We have to make an appointment to see my own heart would like to talk to. He didn't all right all right. Just give me one minute. It's it's my first day for the clamor. Only continued louder than before da. Now hold on a no. no no. i won't hold on the thorny brambles walls of the white house hearted before fairly in closed up behind her. She found herself within the hopeful office and saw little dog sized desk made of sticks. That must have once belonged to fred. Fred it is my first day as president. And i'm feeling a little overwhelmed. She flew over to the desk and opened a draw still slimy. From freddie's talent is within. She found a note scrawled with paper and crayon. It read simply eat sticks. Love fred this is the advice he gives me. What if world's longest running presidents and say his eat sticks at that moment fairly says partner sprite. Alright teleported into the all right love. It's your first day as president. And i know you don't have much time for me sprite. All right i. I just want to remind you that you promise pixie kado to be home by nine to tucker in tonight who right. Of course. just being the hope for office at nine pm. And i'll tell about here to pick you up. Yes all right. I'm running late. And she disappeared leaving fairly salone again. But you could still hear an increasingly loud clamour from within the white house so she flew out to investigate look boyer was filled with tree and these streaming spinning top creatures. That flew around shearing off little pieces of the warnin pedal wherever they got too close to the laws. A wave leads. Excuse me please do not prove the white house. Spin yourselves over here and i will hear what you have to say. No no complained. The trees resorts rumbled snowy dragon. There really is to a red and yellow wave who's jagged steel edges looked kind of like fiery comets spot on. Its way right up to her. Fred dog said way. Stop cutting down. Trees deforestation has been an issue. That all wear good ad. What are we well. I thought with a little re training. You could work as save. Leads only pruning when needed men. Cutting back over growth including dead vegetation ball rain. We don't bad engineer that we just cleared away like trail blazers where the way leads could also work as guides leading others through dangerous parts of what if world media swore must think about the The way blade known as meteor swarm started spinning and thoughts getting hotter and hotter as it did stars no no no no signals. No snow trees in snow. Came on. I hear you media swim your fires. A rather dangerous to the trees and snow came on within the white house. Don't tell me how to use my fire and my blades. What if i just held to retrain yourself into a fehb laid with magic gave jogging so instead of going back to school for a year you have all the training you need right now. The whole you drop down the trees and the snow came on And early started magically imparting her knowledge in kindness up on each of the way blades helping them become fehb leads that could keep the forests clear and guide people safely from here to there but before she could finish. The snow came on and trees. Impatiently pushed their way in front of her. Earnings are dirt. Scenario snares. turns aren't i. I'm sorry. I thought i could just deal with that problem today. And then they won't be mounting you tomorrow and you're right. It isn't fair to put others first. Excuse me fairly interrupted mr mouser. Her chief of staff a what is it now. It is time for your lunch break in. He held up a perfect little fruit and vegetable rap but fairly couldn't be bothered. I really don't have time for this. And with a flick of her one. The rap went from in her plate to in her belly. Oh really hit that too. Vast own so large hole appearing in the forest. Then people are falling into it. Mr misdemeanor pleased kindly do something about that and leave me to the many problems staring me in the face. My gordon has said mr mouser looking wounded. But he picked up a tiny shovel and skittered out of the white house. Go go on the go. Go go complained a tree. I'm sorry go. Just let me finish. Hearing sarah's out is art as you were not air i. I'm ten thousand years older than you. So scenarios out you want permafrost magic on all the snow game on like in frozen because some of you are melting. I'm trying to combat climate change. I really am but it's a. It's a slow task snuck ours. Nar you're right i feel horrid just bring whatever snow came on i hear and i will give them permafrost. Magic is nurses new. It's not as hard and he opened the door to the white house and thoroughly saw hundreds of snow skiing on lining up outside aside a growing number of way blades. Alright alright we'll take tens one way blade becomes a fait blade. Then one snow. Cayman gets pama frost and while fairly was casting one cell after another. She spared an ear to listen to the trees. Were we just wanted you to tell the way blades. What do we kind of like your solution. We think a little li less pollution. Well thank you. How do you go you know if some of you could lend your magic. I'd be able to help. The way bleeds in. The snow came on much more quickly. No no no. Why frayed. No you're right. It's not fair to give them my magic and ask you for yours. You should help us. He'll twig and buck from woto. We absolutely so just get in line. And i'll hear one tree and make one fable aid and give one coat of permafrost at a time out bus. I achieve our goal that helped my trees out of that hole. I know but helping reform. The fehb leads will actually be helping. Heal the trees indirectly and all of that will help climate change which will help you smoke on heaven. surely and although none of them were happy including farrelly's they agreed to take turns getting their tree. Healing fade blade training and their perma frosting has fairly swept down. The line castings bell after spell after cell moving farther from the white house. Andy murray into the forest of as the sun went down in the cold sky. All right so snow him. On a crack appeared in fairly says one fell failed. That's stray said beverly's as she found herself falling to the ground her little flapping fairy wings were no longer keeping her aloft. She hit the half frozen ground none too gently and the little snow game on ran up to her snow. I'm fine i'm fine. I just think by magic needs a rest is all tie. Thomas new pitas new. It's fine. I'll be okay. That cute little pita pocket of snow put itself over fairly like an igloo. She found the inside of the pita igloo glittering gently and she started feeling warmer right away but that only made her feel more tired. Peter i'm so grateful for this shelter on such a cold night but no no no. I just haven't had time to rest right now. You just have to come back tomorrow and now get your permafrost denver them. At least you have the last one in line tat apiece. Knew what you mean. There were others in the line before snow pea but they were swallowed up in an ever-expanding hole in the ground. Betas do oh and wet tumbling in it as we speak. Excuse me in. The little pocket of snow closed around fairly soul together hugging her tightly as they tumbled down down down down down down down. Oh it must've finally hit the bottom and down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down. I quite finished mr eric all down to new. You saved me. Even though i didn't give you your permafrost pita that's very wise but could you let him out now. I want to make sure we both safe. Wherever we are the snow game on unwrapped itself from fairly and she saw they are at the bottom of a very deep hole looking up she could see just a sliver of moonlight and looking around. She could see hundreds of shadowy figures. Who's that who's there. I'm president. I'll have you know their release. Warily raised her. One in tried to fly into the air a found her wings. Were all out of very. I'm afraid we're all down here. Farrelly's center familiar voice abacus. Is that you know just to me. But everyone in what if world who cannot fly teleport but i thought you can both fly teleport. Ask about by. Magic is a piton predictable if i were to disturb the sides of this massive hole. Oh i see yes well. We'll just have to find another way. Get the whatever well before you know. We read the very least isaac on being president not particularly well. My magic has failed on my best day and instead of talking to my doctor i am stuck in a hall on your stock. I have a theory if i keep digging down eventually. I just be digging up. But where's your proof of. He said alabaster zero. Lisa's partner in crime solving before she became president. When my proof is at the bottom of this whole so just helped me keep digging. Well find out together gets met logic. Wisman chevrolet i can have my. I was trying to fill in the hole that i value in. Oh mr mosa. I'm sorry. I sent you here alone. I've just got so much on my plate. Did you forget to take my advice. Your advice you said eat sticks. What kind of advice is that. Awning the best kind i can give you do a single thing. That was nice to yourself all day long. See for me. No matter how tough things get my make show. I take a moment every day to each mistakes. But i've got too much responsibility. Snoopy used oil magic unique. Gems sticks dat fred. I'm theory. I don't like to eat sticks. Well yeah but what's yours stick. You know what i mean. I have no idea. Oh yes my sticks sprite. Alright pixie cut to you and her partner and daughter appeared right at the bottom of this very cramped whole mother bit late. Don't you think release. I have been looking for you all night. I'm sorry. I wasn't giving myself time for the things i love in so my stress got away from me is that what made you dig this whole where you stressed about. Not being president anymore right not my retirement present to myself. I've got to be. Allied acoustics died in the world. All right well. I can teleport a few you out of here. But i'm just about used up from looking for vera lisa or night. Only option is to keep digging through the center of the earth. I think you'll find that. There's molten lava at the center of the earth. Which would be dangerous for most of us. Except of course. The lava people said pixie. Cotto said mowlem. Oh the lava person are. That's just what is what staff the center of white therefore be anything we all know dell we get there and fred started digging into the earth again. Snow pete Yeah agree it is getting hot in here being stuck next. There's lava person i'm president. This is all my responsibility. But i'm too exhausted to even think if only we knew this was going then we go there. What was that alabama. I mean we're miles below the service old that dirt and rock can't be here of course series you can't keep the dirt and all your digging is crazy then where he's debt going. You know me take it with big long tongue in ice it. Several mileage backup to the earth's surface digging is taking our little longer now fred. the dog. if you're done can reach up to the surface of to really pera stuck down here. Who i just hanging out with me. I think i'm almost to the center. Everybody i think everybody wants to go to bed or wake up board dependent on our time zone fred. The dog finally realising not everyone wanted to be in this whole with him began. Rapping has long slimy tongue around each of them and lifting them up and out by twos and threes. when everyone was back on the surface the son was already rising. And with it. A clamour of requests began again. I have your attention. The observatory needs rep. Has and i would like a new diamond bracelet. If we're asking for staff we won only two when i hear all of you and some of these obviously very important request but i need to rest where lucky that there are many. Many helpers out there not just the president and we can all continue working together so that we can all continue taking breaks for our sale speech. Barely you go stick you deserve. He must have dug to the center of the age. But we don't know what is at the center of what if we're going where we're going to have to find out right after i get some sleep maybe a. What if question will help me figure out where i am right leg question for one of your kids. All right all right we get it. Fred probably can't hear still here. You just aren't very far away like we hang on tape fred. we're gonna find you. Okay now okay now. I'm juries officially lost. Yep yep he's lost. Jarring yoy i is but now the end well regan carson. I hope you enjoyed your story. Oh and i can tell you. Regan's question now it was what if farrelly's lost her magic. Thanks regan folks at home. You can always leave a rating and review for us on apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen that helps new people to find us as does word of mouth just telling a friend if you want access to other great rewards including shout on the show ads free episodes and a better chance of getting your questions answered. You can check us out at patriots dot com slash world. Our what if venturers just gotta draco max patch. That's hard to say along with a note from me and they get new regular episodes of our interview video show. What is wiz starring abacus. Peter bowler so check us out at patriotair dot com slash. What if world now is time. Voice jolly dial. Go ahead. fred. Toibin age seven. You said torben right. That's exactly what i yet. He loves harry. Potter scientific experiments gymnast. Ix thorburn listens though. What if every night before bed with his brothers dane who is nine and akzo who's four z z. Here to shout dylan. She's eight years old from illinois and dylan loves video games. I guy denied for john hopkins age eleven and finally i am draco max here to shout out airbnb has also eleven years old likes her cats shadow in shameless legos. As well as star wars. And she insisted that i get myself stuck in your studio for their shoutout. Yeah i noticed track amax. Sorry i'd like to thank karen. O keefe my co creator craig. Martin's and ferrara theme song desert mcfarland for sound design and editing. And all you kids at home. Who know that helping others is great. But you've still gonna make sure you take time to help yourselves or in the wise words fred. The dog eats them sticks. Can gig young good your until we meet again. Keep wondering were.
The Ocho: Could training camp rosters change?
"What The, welcome? To another episode of the Ocho entity partnership as always lesbian nations blog. The Boys Dot Com. Are Joe me of course from VDB and from writer, humble host onto the OCHO. It is Friday July third, two, thousand and twenty. We hope all is well wherever you are. We hope you're happy. Safe Healthy, and we hope that you are going to have just the happiest and the safest Fourth of July weekend. I don't know what you got going on I. Hope you're going to eat something great. You're going to have some good times. Whatever the fourth is bringing to you, I hope I hope you're happy. My dog seems to sound right now. Look full disclosure. Like I've said my family and I. We're moving or packing up got boxes everywhere bubble wrap got that. Big like cellophane. Saran, wrap tape. We're wrapping everything. If if it's flat, it's got glass rapid. It's a couch rapid a TV. Throw a towel on it rapid. Rather than a lot of stuff. And and little bear has been if you have if you're a loyal blogging, the boys podcast network listener. You've heard bear starring in several of our shows this week. So we appreciate your patients we will be set up in the newest Ocho command center in about. Ten Days I think. So, if you could just bear with us as no pun intended as we. Make our way down the Rio Grande Valley. That's where we're headed towards. That's where I'm from. So. Things are you know how it is when you move or whatever so we appreciate your patience by the way speaking of the network, we have just such a fun crossover episode that we are literally this episode in my best. Chris trigger voice literally in the middle of yesterday. Thursday's episode of broadcasting the boys with Ari Timken and Roy White was in fact, a crossover with Kelsey Charles Meg. Murry from girls, talk and boys. The first half of their four person episode aired yesterday on bt. That's broadcast in the boys and the second half air later today on GDP girls talk invoice so Ari Royal Kelsey. May they built an all an? Super team. The first half of their conversation was great. You didn't go back to your podcast feed, and you can listen to that, and you can hear the second half later today. Even though are accidentally said that it was going to drop on Mondays episode of Gross Talking Boys. He He. Middle Boo, and that's fine and speaking of Ari is a great friend of mine. Give me a star in radio and forever did not dated Forever Indebted. Him I was on ours. Other cowboys podcast cowboys beat podcast. He impact Condu- a great job over there and so I'm on the latest episode of that. We talk about a lot of what if if if you WANNA go listen to. It turns out. There are a lot of what ifs and we're talking. Legitimate wider now, what if Jimmy Johnson never left? Not what if does does a great what ex, but we went, we dug deep. We found some unique YDF, so go check that out, but I know that this was revelry. Right I know I had to that. Hey, we're going to the giants. When we're talking about Washington, we're talking about the eagles and everything There's just been news all right. There's there's just been so we. We got into the giants earlier this week. The cowboys giants robbery with biglou dot com Ed Valentine that was Wednesday, so you can go back on your feet and listen to that we will get into the other two teams over the next couple of weeks. We have some time, so we will get those in. There's just been some news and things we have to get into if you want some cowboys, eagles who you can go. To the blog and the boys are bleeding green nation. Twitter accounts we. We had a nice little back and forth on Thursday afternoon. So that's that, but the things that we have to get into number one. Dak Prescott better than Pama mahomes. Obviously No! Just! Kidding that was a joke. Nobody take that seriously. Dak Prescott is not better than Pat Mahomes, but there was a tweet. And there's always a tweet. There's always a tweet. There was a tweet they had. People earn food pro football focus, and they know what they're doing, they they know they know they're throwing that. Meet out there and we're all just taking it. tweeted out on Thursday. Most completions of forty plus yards in two thousand Nineteen Dak Prescott Sixteen. Patrick Mahomes fifteen. Now! I have a TI eighty nine, I've taken a couple of CAL classes. Couple of physics classes no big deal. I I've used the eighty the graphing feature, but I do not need that to you eight nine. Maybe need some some help. Talking I do not need that ti eighty nine to know that Dak Prescott having sixteen completions over forty yards in two thousand nineteen is more than Patrick. Mahomes had and fifteen now understand. Patrick. Mahomes miss some time. I understand Patrick mahomes definitely better, I understand. Patrick Mahomes won the Super Bowl. Nobody's saying that DAX better than Pamela homes, and in fact I don't think this is saying anything. This is just pointed out to upset people. To cause arguments and it's kind of what it did. But. Look all this release says to me if you're curious what this says. If it does say anything, it says. The Dak Prescott is very good. He's not better than Pat Mahomes but he is good. He's a great passer for the people say. The DAK Prescott cannot throw deep the math. The stats the data it refutes you, so watch out the objective data. I don't know if you heard very y'all. He was upstairs and he. He agrees Dak Prescott very good. So Other thing for us to kind of get into as we wrap up this weekend, we will have like I, said the second half of the crossover later today on Gross. tomboys and we will have a brand new episode of Cowboys Montana with motorshow Regis, but. We heard rumblings of this earlier in the week and we had talked about it, but it's worth mentioning again because this is a very very strong likelihood, it seems. ESPN reported or added to the report that training camp rosters for NFL. Teams are maybe perhaps likely probably going to be less than ninety players if you're unfamiliar. Generally Training Camp Rosters for NFL teams have ninety players on them. Obviously, the world as we know, it is a very different place due to the COVID, nineteen pandemic, and so we know as of what Wednesday that the NFL has already preseason games in half for the cowboys. It's been more than half. They've lost sixty percent of their previously scheduled preseason games. They lost the pro football hall of. Of Fame game and their games on the road against the Los Angeles chargers, and the Houston Texans, the cowboys have two preseason games every other NFL team against Baltimore Ravens and Kansas City chiefs typically. You need all those preseason games in all those training camp practices to figure out which of those ninety two players are ultimately going to make roster. We talked about that, but with two less preseason games, you might not need ninety players on your roster. We know that social distancing is being encouraged across the world and many different capacities in every capacity and. I, I don't know if that's what the NFL's thinking here you know. There are reports that there maybe going to be seventy five or eighty players on a training camp roster as opposed to ninety. We have heard that the NFL has a plan in place for every team to socially distance in their locker room and we've talked about other friends that we have here on the show. I don't know how that's possible. I mean speaking only for the Cowboys Home Locker Room and into stadium I. Do not know how everybody you can be six feet apart from everybody i. don't I mean that's in the locker room. Let alone playing a game. And so maybe NFL feels like social distancing is more feasible more possible with seventy five or eighty players on their team. Maybe the NFL also realizes that you know they just don't need that much time, and so therefore they can kind of skip a little bit of this and. Again. You know there are lots of roster spots that are up for grabs, and there are lots of players that fight their way onto rosters through training camp, and certainly through the preseason, but the reality is a significant majority of the roster is not predetermined, but it's already set like. If we sat here, we could probably come up with the actually I keep saying fifty three, it's. It's fifty five players that are going to make every NFL teams roster, but the cowboys roster specifically. If we sat here, we could probably come up with thirty to thirty five. In fact, we could come up with forty that we feel very comfortable about that are going to make the Dallas cowboys fifty five man roster, so you're talking about. Let's say it's let's say it's forty. All of a sudden. You really only have fifteen spots up for grabs, and if you're taking ninety players to camp, you know that's fifteen available spots out of fifty in a ninety man roster bear I know I agree. It's fifteen spots at fifty total participants. You don't need that many people. When you've done a lot of scouting a lot of film work and a lot of research and a lot of preparation, etcetera, etcetera etcetera, so we'll see what happens, but this did feel like a week or the NFL was preparing people. We've seen now. The Hall of Fame Game Get canceled postponed. However, you want to put it. We've seen two preseason games. Get caught. We're starting to hear lots of murmurings about this. There was the report also earlier in the week that some NFL teams are considering travelling to and from road games in the same day. It seems like the NFL's maybe gauging some. Perception, public response before they make some final decisions, but whatever they decide, we will, of course. Have you covered as always? That's not the way we're kind enough right now. By the way, watch up. We'll have you covered as always at blog on the boys dot, com, your home for the best ask cobbles content on the web. You can follow us on twitter at blogging. The boys on instagram blogging dot the dot, boys, you can follow me on twitter, and the Graham at Georgia one username same place DM's are open. If you want to chat about anything to tell me, my dogs, barking was adorable. Get it I understand you're GONNA. Always shoot me an email. RJ DOTTO ESPIONAGE IN DOT com if that is more your speed once again, we want to say that we hope you have a very happy in a very safe fourth of July weekend celebration. However, you are celebrating. Yeah, get ready for the second half of the crossover broadcasting. The boys girls talking boys are temperature. Roy. White Kelsey Charles, Marie. It's coming your way. Make sure to subscribe to the blog on the voice podcast network wherever you get your podcasts. Apple Devices spotify stitcher tune in radio. We are all over the place we are anywhere. We are everywhere, so watch out. So do favor have the absolute best Friday of all time. Because you deserve it was. My friends thanks as always go cowboys.
Phoebe and Padma Lakshmi Swim Through a Lake of Shit
"So many white guys supported by a wits dot com platform for creating your all professional website. We all need to good partner to help get us off the ground like that Minna, Robin boatswain Clark lake Derian IBS with quits you could start from scratch or customize template. Love LA just got a Wickes dot com slash white guys. Get ten percent off that w I ax dot com slash W. H I T G, Hugh. Why? Listener supported w in y c studios. Right. Right guys. Thomas from white. Over the place. Right. Walk. So many white guys from WNYC studios. I'm your host Robson. And I'm here with my boo aside piece miss Joni. Mitch, hi, how are you? You know, what I left my house today? I put on my all Nash iota, and let me tell you. It's worn off already. You know, I was trying to use all natural Yoder. And yeah, it's going to be a no-go for me. That's a no for me dog. I went all the way to the crystal. I win all the way to that trim. And I said, I gotta just come right back. Yeah. The thing is I think my dad uses all natch like crystal deodorant, or whatever he never has be. Oh, so maybe it's just me. Maybe I'm always in a natural state. It'd be oh. And I embrace it. I feel like it's also maybe New York life. Yeah. You're hustling, you're moving. Yeah. Or maybe you just have the auto. Try to make it positive. You're like, no, you probably just stay. At to keep doing until you know, officially is trademarked by Cardi B. I can't do it anymore till we gonna lawsuit. And. Yeah. Do you think she will listen to so many guys know? Okay, guys. So this is the call to action gotta get Cardi B visiting and posting about so many white guys. She could listen to us while she's getting her hair done dinner images to Q insist story you can write your own tweet. You could be like feeds. Joni midge, really great show. That's not a good tweet. Meet some punch. Cardi B. Great. Joanie Mitch have a question for you hit me. Are you really good in the kitch-? That's kitchen. I'm terrible. You are. Yeah. I don't cook. It's bad. I used to I can do eggs really well that doesn't count. Everyone can make a. Now like me, what do you make eggs foreign team eggs Benedict? Scrambled. Just dry s grim day. Pretty limited in the kitchen yet will be there led British bake off to the cook. Really? Wait. Did you have home at class at your school? Yeah. Did you take it yet that took woodshop showed up? Yeah. All of the aren't woodshop like may Bonk's they made like little hypes and somehow got away with would like make up. They would say it was a sculpture. Yeah. What did you make in your woodshop? I think it was like a simple toy like it wasn't like it wasn't anything. Cool like a Bong like. Our bombs cool. I don't know I'm square. So that sounds really cool. But yeah. And then home I remembered just sort of like feel like what's the point of? Yeah. I have no intention of ever cooking for anyone that I did. And I feel like if stuck shooter that you showed them. Take that home economics. I. Going to be a homemaker bitching. But I do love doing laundry that is my jam. I love doing really love it. So soothing, do you love folding? I hate falling. So the last thing you cooked was when I mean, I made a salad for my cell phone night. You'd have never seen a top chef challenge. You're up for limitation make a sweet salad with muscular mess. Gone. It was a real I actually. None of us know, how to cook anything except for aches. What are we even people? I know. Okay. What do we do this? Let's take a cooking class ago. I would love that. Okay. Guys. The call to action on this. Is there a lot of actions? But hey, you gotta do it. Twee? Joni nice suggestions for the types of cooking classes, we should take. And then you know, what we'll take one. And then we'll update you a how I love to fescue. I'm so into this. All right, guys. You know, what do you know, what's going on? What's going on TV commercial break? Ooh. AM our listeners out there. Laxed? Everyone starts Cardi B's. Like, oh, I'm in. I'm in. She was number one fan. Any white guys supported by a wig stock com a platform for creating your all professional website listeners. First website was trash the margins were ignorant the pictures were blurry. The font was maybe times new Roman and also aerial. So don't make those mistakes. And you won't with wicks. Okay. Because whether it's your first time create a website, or you're already a pro tools to help you help yourself started. Love launch an online store or create an event, plus you could share everything with a click on social media and drive even more traffic to your site. Just go to wicks dot com slash white guys get tips, and that's w I x dot com slash W. H I T E G U S. Okay. So you know, what we're trashing the kitchen, but guess who's not our guest today. And if you've watched top chef which just ended at sixteen season, you've known that Pama is the mother fucking best these pep your nights ago. She has been nominated for an EMMY for her work on the show. She's also a writer who has written so many cookbooks in a memoir called love loss. And what we ate. She also co founded the Indo Michio foundation of America, which gets the word out about Indo Michio says and encourages research on it. It was something that she has personally struggled with. I'm so amazed by her work on that. I feel actually a lot of my friends have been diagnosed with Demitrio so too. And it's like nobody talks about it is great that like she decided I'm going to be the face of this and make people pay attention. And guess what? People are. Yeah. Totally. I love her and on top of that. She also works with the on immigration issues, and she's also immigrant herself. So she's very very passionate about it. Plus get this you guys, right? When we recorded the interview, it was announced that she has become a goodwill ambassador for the u n that is huge. I thought you were going to go that is the United Nations. For those of you don't know that is the United Nations you fucking idiot. Okay. So you got Pama she came to our studios as she's so damn cool. She remember all the nightclubs that used to be around here when she was a kid growing up in Manhattan. And you know, what Joni we couldn't stop talking about her jumpsuit? It was incredible. Who's force green? It had like a bond girl energy. Yeah. It was fantastic. It kind of looks like she was going to leave the studio and hop on a motorcycle go like safe the world or something magin, our guests like rolling up to like WNYC lucky. They like tougher helmet to like Brian Lehrer. Anyway, is an inspiration crazy. Intelligent woman, who's passionate about food passionate about making women's lives better passionate about improving the way that immigrants are viewed in the world. She's just an all around good asking person, and y'all gonna love this damn interview. So buckle up put on a pan of hot eggs and get ready for a great interview. He's dancing. All he did around here. Yeah. You're so cool. Just to go to a so B's. Okay. Nice. There was one night a month that was basement Bondra, and my girlfriend DJ didn't it was like an institution for all the Brown people. Yeah. In the tri-state area. Yeah. A big old hot sweaty school dance for like doctoral students. Cool. Well, padma. Hello. Thank you so much for doing this. So many white guys is such a fun show. And it's because of people like you that it exists. So thank you for coming in today. Wow. Thank you. Because it's true. I have had that thought a lot so many white guys. It's fine. You know, but he has their day in the sun. Lasted a long time though. Wanna take a break, right? With their so much to talk to you about. But I wanna start with probably how like a lot of people came to know, you certainly myself as through top chef which just completed sixteenth season, which young. Yes, amazing. Very very exciting. And and so, you know, you're so known for food you hoes a show about food like you're very passionate about it. When did it? I become a thing where you're like. Oh, I think I want this now be the direction of my life. You know, I was lucky because I just wrote a cookbook, but the cookbook didn't come out till my late twenties. And you know, I felt very intimidated because it was something I always loved to do, but I didn't go to culinary school. Certainly never worked in the, you know, in the kitchen of a restaurant as a chef or sous-chef or whatever. So, you know, for me, I was very thankful and couldn't believe on that. But I was also very reluctant. But then I took what we're came to me. Is the truth? You know, those moment in my life for even when I was thirty where I was writing a column for the New York Times syndicate, I had a column in Harper's bazaar. I was still auditioning as an actress I would still go up for the occasional modeling job. And you know, I just I hustled. I did what came to me that I thought was great. And then the work just took over and food. You know, that's the honest answer. It wasn't like a lightbulb moment. It was like, okay. This is what you know. I always believe you should push against the open door. You know, like don't sometimes life has a way of telling you which way to go and don't make it harder on yourself. And I always tell young people if you you know, if you can find what you love an profession to meet that is the ideal goal. Yeah. Without knowing that I've been lucky enough to do that. What is it been like 'cause you just said like you didn't go to culinary school? He didn't come up through restaurants or the people bristled at like, oh, who's this like quote unquote outsider now involved in the world of food. And like, how did you how did you educate yourself? If you didn't come up through traditional pass. Well, I just I, you know, I've traveled a lot. And I do know how to cook I've cooked on my life, and I was lucky enough in my twenties to be able to travel all over the world and mostly live in Europe. Which is where I really learned about European cooking technique. You know, what is the difference between Brune wise in Julianne? You know, what does it mean to, you know, sue, the something or or not I did feel intimidated, and there were certain people who didn't make it easy for me. But at one point I just decided that, you know, my job on top chef was to be the audiences Representative. And you know, that there were other people that were brought in and their sole job was to give the opinion of professional. You know? So I didn't have. Have to have the same body of knowledge. I just had to have enough knowledge and experience which I did in which I've developed it's easy for women, especially women of color when they're young and trying to make it and you're so ambitious. You know, maybe you don't have anyone in this feels around you that you can ask for council. It's it's very easy to feel intimidated or that you don't know enough. And I've been in several situations in life like that. Like, I didn't I figured it out on the job. And then I realize okay. I can't do this job. Yeah. So how like do you have any tips for anyone coming into the food world? Who's like, well, I don't know where to start like how can I sort of do what you've done? Yeah. What I've done is fine my own path. And I think that's really important. It's really hard. When you don't see a lot of examples on television or in speaking about my my area of the universe. And you don't see a lot of examples of women of color or just women like hosting shows. Big shows. As you know. And I think my biggest piece of advice is find out who you are like for me, the skills that my own personal history gave me a Connor education in spices in Indian food and Asian ingredients than you know, my travels taking me somewhere else. Find out what you have a point of view about that special. Find something in yourself that you can market that you think is useful in his unique and can contribute to whatever the conversation is about that topic. And that that is where you should go. I you know, I really wanted to be an actor. I have been in big movies and small movies. I have been in TV shows, and I went to theater school. And I did that. But you know, at some point like it just fell by the wayside. So I probably should have been doing that all along. I just didn't know, you know, I didn't take my cooking. Very seriously, everyone in my family cooks. In fact, my family's not even sure I'm the best cook. So that's what I would say. I would say fine. What you're naturally good at find. What you don't mind spending hours and hours doing I e find something you love and make a profession out of it. That's what I would say. And if you are interested, but you don't have experience go work for somebody's easy to start when you're young it's harder to do that when you're older. So, you know, if you wanna be in food, any kitchen will take free labor, you know, or or very low paid labor, and you don't have to do it for a long time. You have to understand that it's shit work. But you know, it's amazing. What you learn in three months. Give yourself your own boot camp, and you go in there, and you work hard. And you say, I know this is gonna suck. And I'm ready for it. But here are the reasons that I'm going for this. Because in a year, I will need the experience I have your some plug my nose and do this and every time your feet hurt and you want to quit and you haven't had enough sleep in that alarm rings. And they give you a new twenty five pound bag of onions to feel. And Boone was like the size of half a tic TAC. That's what Boone was cut. Is you remember that you are doing it because a year from now you won't have to do? I love that. That's so true. You always you just have to get through the study part. And it doesn't last as long as sometimes you just have to get through to the other side and between you in the other side. There's a lake of shit. Yeah. And you plug your nose swim. Yeah. And most people give up right when they're in the middle of the lake but just look back quickly and see how far you've come take a deep breath and swim to the other side of that lake listen to swim through the lake of shit. You. Now, you mentioned acting. I want to touch on that one second. But I wanna go back to one more thing about top chef so one of the things I've been watching it since the beginning. And I used to always wonder every I'll watch an episode of top. Chef I'm like, you guys are especially during restaurant wars, and you're tasting all the food. How do how does it register? 'cause I like my pal would be like blown out after the first thing that eat it is hard. You know, you do have pallet fatigue. But I will say that I'm lucky I have an unlimited amount of appetites. I am uniquely qualified to do this very arduous job of eating my face off. Yeah. But it does get hard like I don't feel great at the end of the night, especially for restaurant wars or especially when it's the first half of the season. And that's why I eat very cleanly when I'm not working. But you wait, you know, you learn to take small bites. Learn that the hard way no one's gonna feel sorry for me. It's a very high class problem to have. But you just pay yourself. I mean, you gotta remember I do the quick fires too. And so, you know, I'm going around to sing that and the very next day. I mean, it takes me just as long to detox after top chef as it does to film top chef digestive track. And I'm not getting enough sleep and my feet hurt. Took me ten seasons to get rubber mat under my feet. I was like on heels on that concrete kitchen. Oh, yeah. Notice. Yes thing to ask for. Don't stand on concrete on high heels for a long time. So you mentioned acting as one of the other things that you've done in your life, which is amazing. And I went talk to you about the fact that you're in the movie glitter. Oh, God that get asked about auditory while I'm gonna ask you to he talk about what your experience was like on that film. Yes. Yes. Sure. I mean, it was a long time ago. I was very green Bondi Curtis hall was the director, very nice, man. It was obviously mariah's first movies while and it was interesting. I wasn't onset that long I because I live in New York and we shot in Toronto. I just went up for week. Did my thing came down. So I wasn't there. The whole time you'd have to ask the brat or she takes out of. But it was interesting. It was definitely interesting. I mean, again, I sing really badly. So equally qualified to do that job too. And it's kind of awesome to stand next to Mariah Carey. Yeah. It's it's a little like saying extra a unicorn like a real unicorn with sparkles. Just like suddenly passionately in her little candy wouldn't high you like belts out this thing, the sound that is half knife and have sparkling diamond all strength. He, you know. It's just it really impresses me. It is like probably what I imagine. It would be like standing next to the net when Michael Jordan dengue. So it is a powerful. She's got some lungs. Yeah. Really really wonderful to hear her sing. And I think it was just a really hard time for her. And I think that movie gets a bad rap. I mean, I'm not saying it was citizen. Kane was fine. And I think it just came out ten days after September eleventh. You know, I just think it was a bad sense of timing. And so I know I still have VHS. You have to have like a viewing party probably. Is there anything that? You miss about acting. You kind of like I enjoyed it is what it was. And then, you know, I mean, there's so many different parts that go into making a movie or miniseries or whatever. I do miss. What happens when you can really relax and get into your character. And you're allowed to do the thing that you really wanted to do about it. You know, like the thing that is really cool about acting is that allows you to feel some of your emotions, but through the prism of someone else's personal history. All acting is. But you know, that is the part of it that I enjoyed most to really figure out what somebody wanted the most. And how I could relate that to my life and use that, you know, but I'm telling you this. But the truth is like I didn't get the parts that I really wanted. Anyway. So that feeling was very few and far between. And so I was able to do the food, and it was just coming at me so consistently that, you know, just from, you know, a life like a real practical perspective like I couldn't turn down that show. You know? I couldn't there's no way. Like it was too good enough for two d and I'm happy. Yeah. You know? Yeah. If I ever acted again, I would love to do a play what kind of part would you want? I know. I mean, I will if I if I didn't think on film, and I don't even have to have a single line. I would like to beat an action movie. I would love to think of it. They'll train you and work you out for free. Yeah. My first movie, I did was for Italian television is like a real bodice heaving swashbuckling miniseries. I've played this indigenous woman pirate stories on the sixteen hundreds. And I was in Cuba for four months. It was the best time of my life. Yeah. It was like nineteen Ninety-seven. They told me to gain weight for the role. I was in heaven, and they gave me a lot of stunt chaining. I learned how to fence learned how to fall. It was exciting. That's cool. And you know, I would love to do anything like that like something real rough and tumble, you know, like a superhero movie or something, but I can't complain with where landed yeah, I wanna talk a little bit about your story because it's it's really fascinating me touching. And. When I like about you talk about how much your grandparents influence your life. You know, I want to hear more about why they mean so much to you how they haven't packed to your life. Because my mother was a single mom here. New York City, you know, she needs a break. And so the minute that school got out I would be on a plane to India from June disapp- temper, and then there were certain years that were hard for her where she was studying for her master's degree and stuff that she sent me back to India for you know, other reasons too. And so they're like third grade I spent all in India, and I think that you know, Indian families are nuclear family is what most people would in the west considering extended family. Yes. And for a lot of Brown people, you know. And so like, I really am heavily influenced by my grandparents, I was my grandfather's first grandchild. And you know, he he taught me his love of books. I think I wouldn't be able to be a writer. I wouldn't be able to do what I do without his influence, and I think my grandmother taught me about cooking. And I'm so. Indebted to them because it those two human beings, you know, really gave me a life gave my mother some life. Let her breathe and catch your breath and take a rest and also were like, my parents, you know, and my mother gave me strength, and just perseverance. I think if you look at the details of my history, you can see a direct correlation to those three people who for me kind of are always totems. Yeah. I wanted to quote from this article you wrote for CNN about immigration thought, it was really beautiful. He wrote I know from experience that when a child is in her mother's arms, even chaotic circumstances. All is right in the world. When that bond is broken the child is on moored, the temporary loss of my mother, my confidence in my ability see the world in a positive light. Which is you know, people don't really think about that. Even when they're fighting for immigration. You don't think about? How deeply affects the child. Can you talk about like how it changed the way you saw the world as a kid? I mean, you know, I don't know any other way, but from two to four I didn't see either of my parents. I think my mom may visited me once, but should you get back to the states shoes, you know, working hard and Hartman? I think you always have a lack of safety. You have a lack of serenity that is that is not really intellectual that is much more visceral. And if you think about what makes the child nervous or what makes child happy and confident it's the feeling of security. It's the feeling that they can relax, and I think that's true for all human beings. And because at that age, you know, you're so connected, physically to your mother, probably just stopped breastfeeding. Like, six months before or something it does really affect you. You know, there are children who have a lot worse their children. You know, who are starving and have a much more destructive version of what I had which is why what's happening at our borders to me. I mean, it just breaks all rules of. Decency humanity, any kind of compassion via. When it comes to the topic of immigration. What is something that you think? Particularly people in America just should be thinking about, but they aren't well. You know, the reason I can tell you. I mean, I started working with the ACLU couple years. I became an ambassador for them for immigration rights slow shortly after all this stuff started happening or that. We started finding out about it at least, and the reason that happens, and what I would ask every American to think about is that if a mother puts her child in the water, it's because it's safer than the land. If a mother or father, walks through a desert with only a milk bottle full of water, it's because where they've left is more dangerous. What would you do? All of us built this country. Yeah. Listen unless you are from the Cherokee nation. Yeah. You two aren't immigrant. Yeah. Ooh. My draft y'all fuck and Dr. It just gets me really pissed. Yes. I know what it felt like to be a kid. I know what that feels like you don't know what the hell is happening. You know, when you're gonna see your mom or dad, again, you're in a strange place, you know, as a child you have so little fucking control over anything even over what you eat, and it's very very anxiety causing and not in Zion. You carry with you like shackle on your ankle for the rest of your life. Do you think you still carry some of the things I now or? Yeah. Because it's not an intellectual thing. You know, it is trauma. That's exactly what it is. It is a very severe and very deep. Trauma that happens at a at a critical age of development, psychological development for a child and that stuff signs, you it marks you on your soul for the rest of your life. And I, you know, I'm an adult, and I'm doing well and people who love me, and I'm safe and no one's going to hurt me. And I have the power to earn money to maintain a lifestyle from my daughter, and I and I can help other people. But even I still. I'm always a little scared. I'm always a little jumpy like is all this going to be taken away from me. And I think that's what I was talking about in that I'll bed, you know. I don't if you've never known serenity, you know, until you're an adult, you don't know how to recognize it. Yeah. What was it like growing up in New York? Did you enjoy being in New York? Yeah. When people ask me wear in front of my say, I'm Indian, but my home is New York. You know, I I'm a New Yorker through and through I grew up in this city roller skating all over, you know, Manhattan, and that's how I grew up here. New York is a great place to grow up as a kid. There's so much to do become much more independent. You don't have to be chauffeured everywhere. Right. You can go there on your own after certain age. I mean now they have Uber. I guess. My daughter asked me if we could take an Uber instead of her taking the school bus, and I said, no. Say you're over every day, dad. Does is great. Yeah. Guess why? You're not a death get on that. Can you imagine? No critic. So. Yeah. Can you talk a little bit about motherhood, and how that's going for you. And how you're enjoying it. So far, so good. Yeah. I mean, I always really knew that I wanted to be a mother, and then I was told I couldn't be a mother, and you know, that was very dark period, especially after I had tried not to give regmunt all my life until it was like, well that was a ways. You know, I was very thankful that she arrived, and she is the light of my life. And I knew I wanted to be a mom, but I didn't know it would be so much fun. I enjoy her company immensely, and I would rather be hanging out with her than doing almost anything. And we love to cook. Together, we love to do each others make up we, you know, soon we'll be barring each other's clothes scary. But, you know, she's she's tall and opinionated and funny. I told her that's good because beauty's skin deep but boring is to the bone. Yeah. Well, you know, I think especially because you model for a bit. And I think you sort of kind of felt like, oh, this isn't as fulfilling as, you know, it's no accomplishments own. I mean, you know, it's the army of your parents genetics has nothing to do with you. I mean, it's not, you know, at some point in your life. You have to do something of value something that's more than just existing. Yeah. But we're there any like amazing pinch me moments from when you were modeling this is pretty bad ass. Yeah. It was all that. Yeah. I mean, I, you know, I walked the runway in Paris and Milan and New York like my first show in New York was for Ralph Lauren and Isaac Mizrahi. And you know, in France, I did shows for, you know, manual grow. And I'm usually in that was like. Very exciting bev's, just like plain out. Oh my God. This is glamorous. And you didn't have any money until I was in my twenties, and I had started modeling and most of my friends hadn't paid their college loans office fast. It was clearly only because I had modeled and for me that life was so removed, my mother's the nurse. She's retired now, but she's a nurse in my stepdad's, a plumber. And you know, this was so I was on the moon as far as I was concerned. Yeah. I mean shooting with people like helmet Newton. That's a pinch me moment. And he had such an effect on me of such a profound effect on me well before helmet shot with me. I would do a lot of shows. But they'd be like she's pretty but make sure she has long sleeves because of my scar. You know, and so I would do work here and there, and I made a lot of money as a fit model that, you know, being fit model is like the lowest rung of mom where you're just like a human hanger for the designer whose designing collection just make sure the clouds move. Wow. And whatever, but I did do fashion shows here and there and stuff and then about a year year and a half into being a model. Hellman Newton found me and he wanted to shoot with me. And that first I canceled on him because it was she chickened out. Oh god. I've never done a national cancel that too. I know what helmet Newton and not everyone kept telling me, I was an idiot. So she my agent knows like, oh, well, and then my boyfriend at the time, he I remember this is one of the few good things you've ever said. Which was, you know, don't do it unless you feel comfortable because the pictures won't be good. You know, and you don't wanna do bad job for genius like that or whatever. So said, no. And then everybody was mad at me. And then like three weeks later six weeks later. I can't remember now so long ago his agent called back, and he said, well, what if she doesn't have to be totally nude? I said, okay. You know? And so I have very long hair then and so it's kinda covering me. And you know, he loved the scar. In the scar was the star of this picture. And then we also did a calendar together. And. You know, all of a sudden, they were checking my sleaze. But they were making sure they were short because they wanted everyone to know. It was me that girl with this car. Yeah. Under all that makeup 'cause the models the same especially if you're not like a super famous moll. No one knows what you look like. Yeah. And my career really overnight changed she shot with me. And so that's when I really started working. That's cool. I just love the par. Your story that you've got discovered in a cafe like that's so cool. No, whatever they're like, oh, you have tissue at the bottom of your shoe. And a cafe like that's the only time ever get like, you wouldn't cleanup news. But yeah, it was weird. I mean, I went to a cafe with my friend who had graduated from college already 'cause I was on a study abroad program. I just need to get out of dodge. And my last semester, I had finagled myself into some Spanish speaking program. I had zero years of Spanish. I went to Madrid. And I took Spanish they're from like nine to one PM, and I had one friend who graduated with an exchange, and then he showed me around. He was really sweet and Santiago took me to a bar called a bar. Cafe calls that about the remember the name, and I met this very beautiful blonde haired, blue eyed man who was an ex model, but was now a very powerful agent and his name was Nando Marino. And he said, you know, you can model I storm not ruining my GPA in the last. And then he was like really because I have this job. I think you'd be perfect for it. And he told me home could make an I I think I can make an expensive. And it was really a blessing. But it was lonely, and it was sad. And it was, you know, very uncertain time. But I do think that my spending my twenties in Italy is really where I blossomed as a woman, you know, it was a good place to so your wild oats. I worry about young women today. I have two or three women that I'm close to for in their twenties. And you know, I just mentor them and like see with with their worries are and stuff and it's hard like you couldn't do half the shit. I did know too many phone cameras. You know? I mean, my, you know, I had a friend who was teasing me like you giving all these speeches or you. You know, you ever going to go into government service as it? Hell no pictures on the. Yeah. And I had my fun. I did I was you know, I was fully in the nineties. Now, I want to switch gears because you know, I love your work as a writer if ice immigration, and I also love all the work that you've been doing around into Michio says, I think it's so important because it's still not talked about enough a lot of people still don't really know much about it. Let adopter. Yeah. Which is very early crazy. I mean, the fact that I was in pain for twenty three years without a proper diagnosis pissed me off not until I got the help and saw what life was like on the other side of that, you know, as a healthier, you know woman, and I was I was just astonished at how unnecessary all that strife was. And so I started speaking up about it. And we you know, it's actually our tenth anniversary this year. Starting the foundation. Thank you. That's great. You know, we were able to open a center for guy. No pathology at MIT with Harvard Medical School was is the first one of its kind, and it's exciting because there was no other way, I was going to get into third year chemistry. But you know, now like all these researchers like actually listen to me. And you know, I think this is true for a lot of women who've had health crises you become an expert in your own condition because no one will listen to you. And we need to start listening to women about a whole host of things, and we wanted to be like really on the ground, and we've had medical conferences. My mom helped me with the first nurses conference along with my roommate in college Sharon felt bad. She said, I never believed you either drama. I am. But I wasn't paid. And so, you know, now, she's a nurse practitioner. And it's wonderful. Yeah. At so, what would you say, how's your relationship to your body changed? Once you found out what was going on. Because you must have been like what the hell why am I always am paying like where you like angry at your body? And then what you realize what it was. You're like, oh, that's, you know, I well, you know, for one I knew finally got proof that I wasn't crazy. You know, because that's another reason you have low self esteem. You're like what's wrong with me that I can't handle the most natural things that happens to every female mammal on the planet. You know, when your girlfriend or your roommate takes two Advil and pops a little tampon in her back pocket for later. You're like, well, you know, I was bedridden. I was bedridden for like four days. I, you know, it's a different landscape than than when I was in my twenties like bold over like doubled over in the corner. Crying going on my God. I can't feel my leg. Oh my gosh. Wow. Sucked. Yeah. Girl uneasy to run for. Pitchers out there. Well, you know, you seem very, you know, regal and pie. So what's I'm deep down a trash person? I like sort of like just kind of lame things like something kinda trashy that you're into when you're not off writing books corn dogs, really. Corn dogs with mustard. I like hot dogs with mustard relish in catch up know what what's trashy? I watch hoarders. I love what's set what forensic files I can on a JetBlue flight from here to I five and a half hours of. Forensic files until my eyes are bloodshot, and I can't close them anymore because there's so dry. I have a lot of trash capability, you know. I just don't consider trash. Yeah. You know? I think it's all good late at night. When you're watching TV, according dog in a bowl of mustard is all you lead. Sounds great. But I want to do that tonight. Well, I think you so much for hanging out with me. This has been so great. Thank you so much. I wish you much success in very happy that your show exist. Guys. Didn't I tell you the truth that was a great interview? So my favorite fun fact from this interview is that bees which is where she talked about like going dancing was when she was in college is where it WNYC has their staff holiday. Yeah. Yeah. Which like in terms of like the opposite energies of like cool excitement dance and then like public radio producers eating crew today. Things of James. Wild. It's wild. I love her due to. Well. Thanks so much for listening guys. Enjoy Mitch I don't know about you. But I'm inspired me to I. She's incredible. Yeah. She can do it all I guess what? So can you guys? So get out there. Do it. So many white guys team includes Amri Belden auto Charles Joe poured. He gives them a I Jones nor Wasswa's walk Robson. Our theme song was written by white, dude. And sung by much of other white. You can find some content of meat and Padma on Twitter at WNYC studios. You can also follow me on Twitter Instagram at dope. Wean. And if you still can't get enough of me, I'm going on the road with my stand up tour. It's called sorry here at comment, it's hilarious feed dot com. I know where I'm boy and go get your tickets now being Boston, Atlanta, San Francisco, Sacramento, Nashville, all the places, so come see me, an empty seats. Every show be bucking sold out came by.
Fix It 101: Still At Home
"This is an MP think radio podcast from PB. Think radio VIS is fixing one on one permit. Show to help you do it yourself. I'm Jason Klein here with Pam Ashi Certified Inspector and inspect it like a girl and licensed contractor. Jeff Simmons from house works. Corona virus is here continues to impact. Our daily lives and here doesn't sippy. Many parts of the country is sheltering in place is the law of the land but that does not mean outside is closed as a lot of us have learned. Spring is here and as knowing that you can't just go straight out and buy a bunch of stuff and play outside. It's still here. You can do a whole bunch of stuff in maintenance items. We can work through an April maintenance checklist of you are also talk about some of the diy ways to keep the plumber out of your house. If you want to join the conversation with us this morning call eight. Seven seven N. P. B. Ring. That's eight seven seven six seven two seven four six four or send an email to fix won. Mvp ONLINE DOT org. I hear people's phones going everything going crazy. Jeff Pama you guys here okay there. She is present. I can tell you taking phone calls. Jeff well wait a minute ride with pilots and hey look. I've got a question. Of course I've been on a been pondering since been stayed at home and having a lot of time to think. I'm glad you got you got a contractor on the other line you can ask. Just kidding I WANNA know I wanNA know who's GonNa pick yard of the month. He's going to go out there and everybody deserves yard of the month. It's unbelievable in my in my neighborhood and this is this is not always the counts but man. It is perfect. Everybody has mo- mowing three times a week. Everybody planted flowers and done their garden. As a matter of fact I have seen people around my neighborhood with tillers that have never planted a garden in their life absolutely. Yeah I agree but you let me tell you. What's going on here talking about yards? Is that now ceasefire decides. They're going to install so I got I on the other day from inspecting an empty house. That's all we're doing. And there are two enormous holes in my front yard. And I just about started hyperventilating. You know at the end right underneath my big oak trees. I'm so sorry you know what they did. That in my neighborhood though and it paid off in spades with five G. in my area so don't don't look that gift horse in the mouth just yet. It may work out well for you. Are you guys Everybody working at home. I'm guessing well you know. I'm I'm working at home but I'm also. This is our protocol we will go. We will work on houses that ARE UNOCCUPIED. I e. We've got a fire job Jackson Brian. Or if we're GONNA put on a roof or the paint outside anything outside we will do. We will do inside so my typical day. I leave around eight o'clock in the morning. Go check all my job's check everything from the curb right and the and then when everyone leaves that evening and weekend then I go inside and I checked the kind of gig right so it seems to be working one. What Pan what have you been busying yourself with? I know a lot of people are have done a lot of the projects that they intended to do. Three weeks ago. Now They're sitting around looking for something new. What have you been up to well? We're businesses been steady Russo. Yeah it's Kinda crazy but We don't go we unoccupied properties And then you know trying to mate with folks over the phone to talk about what's going on in the house. The I've not had a lot of time during the day but weekends and nights I've been doing funny thing I've so I'm cleaning out under the bed right and there's a box and I pull that box out in. It's all my mother's my mom passed away about fifteen years ago. There's all this costume jewelry. And I'm like well. Why don't I do some crafts with that? Could pull that out. And I'm doing so that's all encounter and I looked over Emma dining room chairs and my kitchen chairs the little. What is the little things that you put on the bottom? You can or whatever like you know. That doesn't it looks so good. So then I flipped the chairs upside-down digging in the hardware torn down on the air and turned around and all the stuff all the shit on my kitchen counter. Still there is meandering from one thing to another and I'm really not army stuff out is stuff. Isn't it all right? I have a shed in my backyard. Now you may remember this Jeff. I built this. Shed probably four or five years ago and it was a wonderful shed. It's done everything I wanted to but the problem is is that you know at the end of every day when the end of every time when you put them up and you're just too lazy to hose it off or anything you just throw it into the shed well. I've been doing that for three years. So the shed has gotten funky to a place where it was just awful and of course you know sheds tend to be one of those places where the world can't see inside your shed so you typically just throw a bunch of stuff in there and close the door no one. No it looks enclosed or fast right right so so I decided to pull everything out of the shed put up. Shelving do all this other stuff and organize it. Put down a new floor in the shed and everything but now it's right on. This is not a job. I would have ever done before lockdown but all of it looked enticing to me because I had nothing else to do. You know it's funny. You mentioned cleaning out shit. You know what my wife is doing right now. I'm sitting at the breakfast table and But you take a guess if you want to tell me what she's doing right now cleaning the shed absolutely. I had to take every single piece of knickknack out of there. It took me an hour just to get the junk out of there before I can actually organize everything I think. I think people have parties in their night or something because I know how it gets. That messed up well. Mine was getting a certain funk in there that needed to be cleaned out and the whole nine yards. So we did yeah. Yeah and we're able to you about my shop talk shop twenty five years ago. Jeff is saying it is this enormous Shaw. It's a big metal building and I've got big metal shelving in there and every year regardless if there's a pandemic or no have a day when I pull everything out and organize it so I have a wrench center. Have a blow worst center. I have a tiller center. I has more sensor and a garden tool center shovel center and it just. It's amazing like you just need a lady. You need a girl okay. So that's why Jeff's wife was out there she's like you get this thing or walking. Looks like okay? I'm probably the reason it's in the shape. It's in right. Throwing clothes fast. Aren't number call. Eight seven seven empty ring. 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Steer you in the right direction with your car problems fine meal any podcast platform or at autocorrect dot online dot. Org. You're listening to fix one on MTV. Think Radio Jason Klein here with Pam Pibe Asi Certified Inspector inspect it like a girl and licensed contractor. Jeff Salmon's from house works. Join the conversation this morning by calling. Eight seven seven. Mp Be Ring. What are you working on? What are YOU WANNA fix? Wasn't eight seven seven six seven. Two seven four six four or send an email to fix it one zero one at M. P. Online dot. Org guys ready for the first email looks nine here. We go all right. Bring their bikes cocky this more. Let's go for it. Please give me advice. A part of my front yard is sinking moved into this house. In December two thousand twelve. I noticed that one area of the yard was lower and did some dirt fill work this help for a while but it continues to sink. Who Do I call and tell me what's going on? I call for utilities tomorrow. What service are in the area? The only thing mark was electrical and comcast water sewer or gas. Please give me any suggestions. Ch- you want you want me to take it. Why don't you take it because I have a suspicion but I wanna hear what well? Yeah good. Good What first of all make sure you call eight one one again. Maybe you don't have gas in your neighborhood okay But they are to mark everything but water. Water is not marked so all of Your Public Utilities Cable Gas Power. Everything but water should be marked. Oh Hi Jeff. This is. This is new to me. Hang on just one moment when you call eight one one. They do not mark water. No no walk. Water is not is not is not more now. Let me let me tell you some about that too. Is You know I mentioned a minute ago? That say speyrer was digging holes. Right had these two enormous holes in my front yard and to Jeff's point I had a new sewer line run from my house to the street and so I have called a plumber to come in and scope my new line to make sure save spiraled into right yes yes which which can happen easily. So Oh yeah. Yeah. I've got some clients that had happened to and it's not fun go jeff. I've got a comment on that that we could bring up but back to the original question. What I expect has happened I think they have recently. Had someone dig in their yard. It's very common when you dig. If they don't compact that dirt back in there you will create a little bit of a Sinkhole Really it's an it's an easy fix get yourself obviously. Some topsoil However you can go about doing that if you WANNA do it yourself. Several places to go get it. If not call a landscaper right. They can handle task for you but as far as a long term. I think I've got a major problem. I don't think so. Okay so you think there's a plumbing issue underneath that or something yeah. I don't think it's serious at all. We you know in the new construction world. We have to transfer water or gas in our power so when those contractors do that they they do the best job. They can't affiliate that whole back again. But nothing I. It's chances of that ditch. Speaking a little bit is probably greater than not so. It's pretty common okay. Nothing to really worry with Pam. Yeah the only thing I would add to that. Is that if it is in a an area where you get a lot of water drainage if the waters running across that Jeff's right if it's not been compacted than that water is going to go back down into that ground and continue to compact that area that might not have been really compacted whenever the hole was dug so it may just take some time filling it in. I had a situation around my pool whenever they put in the concrete. Had these little holes show up around the walkway around the pool is low? I would just go and purchase bags of sand and empty there until it and it took me a while. I bet it took me a year before I get that and I had no idea. Okay all right. Thanks a lot of hope that helped out. And if you've got an email go and send us one at fix it one. Oh one at N. P. Online dot org if you want to ask about a question something you're working on with your house. Eight seven seven in. Pb Ring is the number to call. We're GONNA go right now to Kathleen Psycho House. Kathleen it's going better. It's better corona whatever and it wasn't the kind you can drink right Listen I've got an update you on your show last week. Yeah we're talking about fancy back home just went through that I can stay home depot because I'm not paid. Tha that just a second. Let's let's do a little background here. Kathleen if you didn't listen last week. We had a question about someone that had a bathroom fan and did not seem to be pulling or working in. The bathroom was getting moist to the point where it was beginning to start to mold so so we were talking about bathroom. Fans in which thing would work best. Jeff mentioned a Panasonic Fan. He's he likes installing. Seems to work very well. What was then called? Jeff called the Panasonic Whisper. Quiet whisper. Quiet okay so go ahead Kathleen. We're all called a thirty five inch pay. It's a small one to Disney because most bathrooms this small and mid has metal blade not the particle board or whatever kind of blades because in moisture those tend to warp and throw off the balance of the fan. And it's Around eighty dollars but it is moisture. Proof looked like a porch fan. But it's small. That's what I was thinking. I was wondering does an outside ceiling fan like for you know Screen Porch or something like that could be used both but it did solve the problem and it works fine and the blades won't work and it began with an AIDS for heaven's sake I can't pronounce it but you have to ask them for it and the order it in for you know. Charge began with an H. and E. N. E. Okay and it's oriental Company but it Pretty beefy you know. It's like a little thing that you buy two twenty book burnings out that year right if moisture proof and the blades are metal and it's thirty five inch and home depot did have it and they will order it for you. It does solve the problem. And I listened to your show all the time and I wish all the listeners out there very very safe taste health through all this kathleen all is very inspiring and we ought to give felder note of gratitude. Because he's been saying this all along had all right thanks. Kathleen we appreciate. It has been a trying time for all of us. I'm hoping that some of the shows here on MTV will connect with you and and give you something to do to to cure the boredom. That's hoping what we're going to do with fix it when I won all right real quick. Let's go to Timothy off the grid and Louisiana. What's going on typically that divining rods work and you get yourself and like half inch. Bbc piece of six inches long Timothy. What what kind of rods did you say? Work inviting rides to discover where the Water Lyonnaise. Oh yes so. How does that work? Hey get you to number eight copper wire like solid copper wire about thirty inches. Long Vendor six inch to six inch L's Benz end of these two pieces. Put him inside the six inch inside the the PVC and hold onto the PVC. Where you get a friction. Lewis Connection Right and buddy. It'll it'll point those waterlines so nice man. That's so we used to see that old cowboy movies and stuff. People try to look for water out west and cartoons. I've never actually seen anyone used to find water. Where you Kinda hold the two wires and they cross. Is that what you mean? They they they they kinda go to where the want they point at where the water is. I mean you just walk across the lawn and nail groping and they're they are you know is it. I mean that is so Voodoo to me. I mean I know it science. And that's the way physics working stuff. That is just insane. So thank you Timothy. I really appreciate that okay. All right free shit. Let's keep all moving number call. Eight seven seven empty ring. That's eight seven seven six seven two seven four six four or you can email fix it what I wanted. 'em PB online dot org. Let's go ahead and do an email real quick okay. This is right up my alley but you guys can listen anyway. I have a nice. Tv stand that a sturdy but dated. I'd like to apply paint and glaze finish but I'm concerned about the years of buildup from furniture Polish. What is the best way to prep the service for painting? So I'm GonNa go with what I've done and then I'm gonNA throw it to pros who've done it properly. What I've done in the past first of all I take what whatever strong sort of cleaner you have and wipe that thing completely to get whatever is easily wiped off off of it and my case then we get down to sanding. If you've got something that's been you know was finished a long time ago. Maybe Antique or whatever and you've got a lot of Polish and and clear coats and all kinds of stuff on top of it. It might not be a bad idea to go ahead and give it a sand so that the paint will stick unless you go all the way down. What do you guys think about this? What that the cleanser that's Jeff Dino? It's it's like a. It's in a clear bottle it's pink. Dsp The DSP I I like a product called sanded sailor Because Jason's right you you have to rough that surface up a little bit to get anything to stick to it right. And if you're not gonNA take it all the way down to the raw wood That saying that sailor works works real. Good what is that Jeff? How's it work? I'm not sure you you put on their let it dry and you say it and that and that access your prep for euro paint like like if you were going to do paneling. No paddling gloss put sanded sealer on there and then saying that lightly off right to get your surface ready like if you wanted to paint it. Oh my Gosh Jeff. That sounds awesome. I had a basement. One time on a lived in Virginia. I had a basement. And it had paneling on the walls and I decided no. I'm going to paint the walls. Oh my gosh. That was the stupidest thing I've ever done. I went out and bought a five gallon bucket of paint and thought I had a chance at it and I did three coats in before I could get the opaque gone. Yeah that that would step. Prior to that sanded sailor would would would have saved save many steps after the well wishes on that. I if you are going to pay him what were you gonNA say? Was there an ad on well actually in my shop now looking for the DSP? I know that there's a cleaner You've got to clean that surface really really well and then there's got to be some type of crime whereas you beat don't prom that android this thing that jeff is talking about it comes. I thought I had some. I went to my paint center shop and I don't have any anymore but it was like in a it comes in a can with A. It's not a paint can but almost like a thinner can and you can actually paint that onto handling or old furniture. But if you don't do that paint is not gonNA stay of threatens. Pete maybe you're thinking a. t. f. p. maybe that's accurate. Say the key I can see them. I'm not seeing him. I shop okay. I assume you're shop. She talks about how it's also well organized and I see like a like a ten by ten lowe's store in my head when I think of your shop. We'VE LIKED THE SIGNS. The signs hanging over each part that say electrical and plumbing. Oh Yeah Oh yeah okay. Very well organized number to call eight seven seven in. Pb Ring time for another break but when we return we'll help you spot leaks sheriff. You fixes that will keep the plumber from your house to be nice. This will help your pockets and help maintain your social distance of stay tuned. If you want to join today's show give us a call at eight seven seven empty ring. That's eight seven seven six seven two seven four six four or send an email to fix it what I wanted. Npr online door. We'll be right back. You're listening to fix it. Went to one on. Mtv think radio. I'm Jason. Climb here with Pam as she certified inspector and inspect a girl and licensed contractor. Jeff Simmons from house works joined the conversation this morning by calling eight seven seven. Mp Ring that's eight seven seven six seven two seven four six four or send an email to fix one at online dot. Org is I have the mask that my wife made sitting like under my Chin right now so that I can talk on the Radio but I've been wearing it anyway. So it's it's it's kind of cool to walk around now looking like a whole bunch of people looking like they're gonNa Rob Banks so anyway. Anything can happen right now all right. Let's go to email real quick. I've got one here for you. This is a quickie. Good one though recently installed unbeknownst to me a defective fluorescent kitchen light the pens were bent resulting in charring. The INSERT PEACE WILL. I have to replace the entire fixture or can that little end be replaced. Okay okay yeah I know what they're talking about You know I think I'm going to replace the entire fixture and this is why Pictures are cheap at. Yeah I just bought it. It's defective we know. For a fact one end is dirt What else is wrong with that? Fixture right is what going on in my mind. And they're not expensive. Take you back to where you got it. Thank you your money back you you you get another one. I'M NOT GONNA try to repair a forty two twenty shop by fixed. Well and I can tell you Jeff Pam can that you know I. I've goof around with those fixtures before you know. They weren't made to repair they were. They were very much made as disposable items Once `Bout Spoon Burns out or whatever. It's over you just throw it out and get a new one but those pins if you try to if you try to move those pins too much. They will break off so cheaply made. They're not you know they weren't made to last forever. Well then of course if you're sheltering at home and you don't have anything else to do Point again it's because you're sheltering home doesn't mean that you need to get your house down Bowler. I read an article the other day that flies in the face of this show but I just had to share it. It was a great article that said stop trying to be productive. Everybody's trying to be productive and there's nothing to anyway. Let's keep moving. We got on the line and Brandon. He's got a comment about that stuff. What's going on? Well I have used it. Repeatedly To prepped services of old Antique Furniture. Getting Ready to strip and refinished it. It stands for try sodium phosphate and you know it was Fuck face are very strong deterrence right and they also can cause Water pollution. I think maybe algae blooms or something like that. The trump phosphates Years ago the government made them reformulate. It reduced phosphate context. I don't know what the current formulation is. I'm just off. The top of my game doesn't work. I E Yeah. It gives to work very well. You know if you'd have a lot of the wax kerosene is is this something like. Is this like a solution that you paint onto the with a brush? Or how does this work? I always found it in a powder form and you would dissolve it in hot water. And then Use a rag to put onto the surface and I think we let it sit for a little bit but not too long and you'd be amazed at how much dirt Was Plaza antiques. Wow that's fantastic. Ken Thank you for letting US know. It's A. T F P no. He isn't Tom-tom P. As in Peter T. S. P. dry sodium phosphate. Okay T. S. P. And you can pick that up in the home stores that we see us to be able to in my storeroom which is not nearly as well. We'll just know folks worked with old furniture before and one of the things that is at a premium right now believe it or not is something that is absolutely required when you're string furniture is rubber. Gloves are gloves of some sort. Because it stuff any of that stripper stuff will really get to your skin. Pretty good so you've gotta you so if you're doing that make sure to wear gloves. It's it's it's really corrosive stuff so all right number. Call eight seven seven in. Pb ring sales on the line and Clinton. What's going on Dale question for you? I? I'm kind of a hobbyist furniture maker. I've built a bunch of tables and stuff but I. I never fooled with the older stuff for my wife. Wanted me to refinish a cherry dining room table and it's very old and and the thing is two summers ago is hot and Humid Venema workshop. No air conditioner Stripped it down. I use the stripper. Stuff stuff is a mess. I got I got it all stripped down and sanded and and it turns out. There's different tone. Colors in panels cheery So I PAINT. It looked good right Wet to put a coat on the Pali on it and when I came back to check on it after let it dry. I guess it was because the humidity I don't know it bubbled up and made a mess and And I I did like so. Many people ends up bandage right now. I want to. I want to tackle it again but I well. I can say this. I do know door one time. Dale and I didn't thoroughly clean the chemical off that was on the door pre before a painted it. I didn't realize that I needed to do some real prep in getting that terribly corrosive chemical paint stripper off their or whatever before. I could put anything down on there and it took me a while so that might contribute guys. What do you well the the the Kogo nineteen is giving you a per- perfect opportunity? Because you don't want to be in a hurry you know that sounds to me like it didn't draw completely or you didn't get the surface completely cleaned off but also a thing about whenever you do that. Poly coating look at the instructions because a lot of times. You're not supposed to brush back over so you don't go back and forth you. Just go in the same direction that happened as well as that some air got into that poly and then when it bubbled up one and Dr Interesting does it matter how fine you saying that like I said I make furniture and a lot of times I go to too far. I go down two thousand three. I would a lot of times it. Can you get it to sign for the poly to it here? I mean I don't know you know I mean I'm not a furniture. Builder built three pieces of furniture in my life. Took me a year to do it so I realize could make a living and have to finish. I used Linseed Oil Tung oil and a poly what I found with the polly stirred polly. I just kept turning the Cayenne. I put the can on the on. Its Lid that way the solids would eventually mix without stirred it Trying to cut down on the bubbles that would end up in the polly. Okay Well I. I liked that combination of of Of the toy goal in the polly and the and the Lind say very mixed those Jeff. Did you make sense together? Okay very interesting. Good idea okay. So so there's a corona virus project right there. Yeah right all right. Thanks appreciate it all right. So we'll keep moving number calls. Eight seven seven N. P. B. Ring. That's eight seven seven six seven two seven four six four. Now the email for you here guys. Ready all right. I'm installing pullouts in the empty space under my stairs. What a great idea. The pullouts can be a full thirty six inches and I would like to use under amount drawer slides to maximize my pull out with how long under mount joy slide do. I need to use doesn't need to be the full thirty six inches or came up twenty eight the drawer slides that. I've use of aid several drawers and used different slides and you can the two basic ones to use her either the under the drawer which is a centre single-track under the door that keeps it there or you can use the kind that most cabinets or drawers in. Newark cabinetry work now which is There are two sliders on either side of the drawer holding it in place and you slide like that. What that does do is it. Gives it to pieces of metal grab a hold to on the bottom drawer are on the juror with a single bottom track on the bottom has a tendency to either rock or you've got to get it in their good. If you're building shelves single-track can be can be tricky. It's a lot easier. But it might not give you the. A desired result. Have you guys worked with those things before? Yes yes yeah they. In fact they make a drawer guide. it's expensive. It's a under mount concealed. So you do not see it. There's there's one on either side and it is a self closure made you start the process and in the the actual drawer guide itself is spring loaded and it will pull the drawer in for you know one has to slam a drawer anymore. -actly exactly they they make those for Drawers they also make soft close in just for your cabinet doors which is a fun project that that's definitely the soft close for your cabinet. Doors would be. You could do. Let me let me interrupt right there. Having been someone who took my cabinet doors off and then had to put them back on. Let's try different word than fun. I'm sure it's fun for some people. Yes I let me tell you. Some jobs are just two people jobs. That work could be frustrating. Because you are exactly right you have to adjust stove and and yeah it is. It's time consuming a great project for right now As far as go ahead back to back to that. Three foot drawer That's a Lotta drawer to be handled with a with a drawer guide. I May WanNA rethink my my thinking. You get a three foot draw loaded. You've got a lot of weight there. a lot of room toggle back and forth and euro disarray. Search before you put in a three foot drawer in my opinion and by the way the side amount things the side ones drawer slides that you do on the side they keep it more stable than a mount and it says does it need to be the full thirty six inches if he wanted to come all the way out. It's gotta be full but I will say this having done it before you can actually buy one longer and and cut it if you want. If that's what you WANNA do. That's what I ended up doing because about the wrong one because that's how I roll all right number. Call eight seven seven in PB ring. That's eight seven seven six seven two seven four six four time for another break last. 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I subscribing to the show through your favorite podcast APP. You're listening to fix it one zero one on. Mtv thank radio. I'm Jason Klein here with Pam. Abbas Ashi Certified Inspector and inspect girl and licensed contractor Jeff. Salmon's from house works. You can join the conversation this morning by calling eight seven seven in PB ring. That's eight seven seven six seven two seven four six four or you can send an email to fix it one. Oh One all one word fix it went to one at online dot org. So we've been talking you know. It's Kobe nineteen time everybody's locked down. There's not a lot going on but there are things that you can do things to keep busy and help your home out. Jeff mentioned at the top of the show that everybody's lawn was just perfect right now because I had nothing else to do. But it's so nice outside to get out and check things out. You know another thing that you can do at this. Point is kind of walk around the outside of your home and check your gutters downspouts. You know this time of the year it sprang all the rain's GonNa be coming so does is all your stuff. Ready is cleaned out. Have you cleaned out your gutter? Jet Are there. Is the water going to have somewhere to go? You're going to have to pull those leaves and debris out from the downspouts if you're doing it old school where gloves folks please. You'll you'll thank me for that really It's really an Achey. Achey job all right. I guess go ahead. Yeah you know it really is into. I cannot stress this. Have someone foot that ladder for you. Hold the ladder. It's not hard. Stand there if they're not holding the ladder just just be standing there case. Someone were to fall off of that ladder. Six foot off the ground doesn't sound like a lot to you. Hit THE GROUND. Bright WELL AND JEFF. The thing is is that maybe gutter cleaning is not an activity. One does by themselves. Maybe there should be an either body there no matter what. Because if you're getting up on this show. We rarely recommend ever going on a roof but to do this sort of thing. A lot of people do it and But do have another person around just case you do fall and you've got somebody to call you know. Call the doctor. Whatever so our eight one. Eight seven seven. Mp Ring that's eight seven seven six seven two seven four six four is the number to call or you can send an email to fix it one zero one. M Pb online dot Org something else. You can look for around outside. The House is signing this time of the year you can look for a lot of the north sides of houses right. Now are getting a little green. If you've not done your house cleaning yet you may see that like on vinyl siding. There's even some on brick things like that the side of the home. That doesn't get a lot of sun is going to see a lot of green this time of year. It's a great time to start cleaning that off. What do you guys think? Well Jason. I was walking around my house the other day doing just ahead and I looked up in dryer vent was clogged kidney. I talk about that. All the Tom minus clause the terrible thing. About take the lid off and clean it all out it was gross the terrible thing about a clog a lint thing is that is that the crazy it takes longer to dry. You know that's part about outside of being a fire hazard. It takes forever to work and may blow out the appliance. Because it's trying so hard of done that by the way that'll make you buy the little thing that you clean it out with right. Their personal experience not listen. I'll mention insanity you talking about getting up on a ladder. Somebody said something. Well had a Roofer meet me the other day. I needed to get up on a commercial building. He was helping me out and we were talking and he said the whole this latter while I go up there and I was like well. What do you want me to do if I can help you much bigger than me? Well he laughed he said Yeah. Now's not the time you WANNA fall because now's not the time to go to the hospital. That's true that's a off your ladder. Let's just go do that until like June. Stay off your ladder. That was a great point. And it's enough to keep me off a land okay. Eight seven seven and PB ring. That's eight seven seven six seven two seven four six four windows also on the outside right now are looking a little rough. If if like I said that that green stuff will grow all around it. You can get it off there if it is a vinyl window. Those things pretty much if you just spray it with some four zero nine and wipe it down. It's fine it's perfect. Do you guys work with different windows? That take different. Things do metal windows clean up like that where you can just spray them down or the I've seen some with the paint stripped off. You know metal windows becoming a thing of the past. Obviously because they're just they're they're just there's nothing good about about aluminum windows It may be a little harder to come off the aluminum that it would. They triple lot still if you had to write And and get it off but chances are the players going to take it off the aluminum as well. And you see that sometimes because people have different colored frames and you'll see where some of a flex off based on what kind of window it is our wine. What about the? There's a couple of things here an idea to do during this time so the screens on the windows outside you know. I don't know if you know this but you can buy a kit and make your own screen. Doesn't matter what size the window is. You can buy the kit. It comes with the little sticks that you make the the the screen frame with and you actually all you have to do is not difficult at all It shows you how to do each and you can make a brand new screen the tool that you use to put a screen on a frame is about a buck eighty six. It's his little thing. That's a roller and the way a screen goes into the frame is there is a a rubber piece of. There's a long stretch a piece of rubber. And you put your and you. You put the the screen down onto the frame and then you put that rubber into a little track at the frame and it holds the screen in place. And that's exactly how screens are made. And like. I said you can go and get one today. I saw one on my house the other day. Where the bottom portion the Laurent on the bottom was broken. And folks when you see that. Don't freak out. Don't think that's a big deal. You gotTA ten dollar fix. You know you can go down on on all it is. That's right it's it's also something where you can keep that tool around and if things you know like say you've got a door that you love and the screen's gone bad in it you can replace that screen no problem cheaply. They sell the screen at at hardware stores. And there's all different kinds of screen that you can buy. You can buy the black. You can buy the silver you. Can you know whatever you're looking for? That screen is all there and you can put that in yourself as an absolute diy project and gives you instructions. I gotTA DO Isra Right. Try Measure twice. Cut Fourths measure twice. Cut once and don't get on a ladder fix production of Mississippi Public Broadcasting Think Radio in sponsored by the generous contributions from listeners. Like you our show is produced by Mr Java Chapman. A call screener today a Kevin Farrell for Pam pipe. Jeff Salmon's non. Jason Client Stay tuned for a Wednesday ten. Am program Everyday Tekle J white and join US next Wednesday at nine for fixing one on one and the Saturday nine also think radio.