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023 Trendjacking Marketing and Public Relations w/ Paul Maher

Lochhead on Marketing

27:54 min | 1 year ago

023 Trendjacking Marketing and Public Relations w/ Paul Maher

"Thanks for pressing play. This is Christopher lockhead and we have a very special episode for you today from time to time on lockhead on marketing we will bring on a guest just to go deep on a critical topic today. My friend Palmar founder of positive marketing in the UK and we pop the hood on a secret black black art of marketing PR communications and media called a trend jacking. And it's predicated on the on the insight that the news loses happening anyway so you might as well be in it and so we talk about how to hijack a trend in the media so that you and your company can be part of the news. Paul and I have been friends and worked on and off together for over twenty years and his firm positive is the winner of the Sabre Award for the best. I earned media agency all of the Europe Middle East and Africa. So He's no joke and I would say he's the category King of trend jacking being as an idea as a category of marketing execution. NPR execution now. Our friends at spunk. 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CMO Godfather category designed and a high school dropout. The Marketing Journal calls and one of the best minds in marketing and the economist calls off putting to some alright search is a special toolkit that those of us who spent a little bit of time doing media relations in content needs to deploy critical times trying to build categories. And the thing I love about this idea is it's kind of a secret black art right because most people when they do. Pr They're trying to create news all by themselves and trend. Jacking is all all about. How do we take what's happening in the news and use that attach ourselves to that and use that as an advantage to become an expert to become? I'm known to position ourselves effectively. Yeah that's right so all of you is. The News happens anyway. Wanted you make it. Yeah why not be attached to it right. It's it's very very powerful idea and I I remember distinctly the first time you and I had this idea. Yeah we were in London. A starbucks are not open to long ago his early chains and you and I were in a Radi London starbucks fuming because there was a merger acquisition in space that we needed to react to you and we really seriously worried that we were going to be out after and I'll never forget You and I came up with a point of view about the acquisition and you and your pr team got on the phone and we found the reporters who were writing about the acquisition and we took time to educate them on in our our category in space. And before you knew it. The media was writing stories like this acquisition happened because of thus. Because you're afraid of US exactly to annoyed guys. It eleven starbucks changed the strategy of multi not billion dollar management consultancy. How likely is that? Yeah we literally hijacked their acquisition news. And that's why we call it tragic thing right And it all. It is now becoming attendance this widely used. I just said some on Germany that Issues jumping the idea is to take a trend. That's GONNA is happening anyway. Senate your involved role that like a car Jack. Whatever you WANNA call it? So that's why it's told transacting. Yeah and the the fun thing for me is a side. Note is a lot of ways. You become the godfather of trend jacking because that day you and I had an the idea for how do we. How do we attach ourselves to this news and make sure that you know we're not being out positioned in the media and now It's it's it's a practice area. NPR In media relations in. You're the godfather of it. Thank you so so I think positive tape. which is the the the the these days than the company I found it? We are known in the market for being aggressive trackers. This is not something you can have a Play around with you need to be on your game. And they're all certain rules the shopping up. If you tested and practice an unequally if you want to be a scattered out early life you know goby a lawyer all right. Let's get into the seven secrets of Chen trend. Jacking number one be positive. So what what do you mean by this all right. So like having a view that you not. Newsworthy is the antithesis assist trend checking the news happens anyway. Why not be in it and if you WanNa Lita category you'd better be making the news because every single news story got is directing getting tools a future state that you want Degree today and if you let other people do that for you. I don't awesome number to Be Proactive what do you. What do you do provoke insist? It'd be proactive. Balking dyslexic can't read the list. He provocative you're the king. So what do you mean by provocative ball so like the definition of nervous Randall. For somebody they also came up with this is the definition used is while someone else does not want you to know right so clearly. There's a lot of vested interests management consultancy famished remained nameless. A little bit sort of Frenchie guessing that these guys didn't want anybody raining on that big day in the sun when they had a massive acquisition guard. So you have to say to you. So how am I going to get the attention of the media. And the way that the media doesn't make it. It's a blessing I'm here in London is is particularly British. NEATER is they liked flood these days. They like tech clash. You need to get creative and find out what it is. Somebody else does not want you to tell the media. That's one of the books and the media loves controversy And so you you sort of have to be willing to mix it up a little if you're gonNA hijack a train don't you. You really do some of the examples that we use You know mergers and acquisitions as we said that didn't work out you know Outages is but there's also that this is an accounting piece. The the goes there a little bit more obvious so when it's more obvious. You need to be more provocative right. There's no point unsigned. We've got a great black Friday story flea gives a shit right. You need to be the most provocative yukons so it might be the black Friday since the donut man or it might be the time when you want it takes over another and you need to be provocative because Orienting US just cut it. Yeah I remember back in the day. You and I did a little bit of work for Check the the The Book Rental Company for College Students. That's now expanded much beyond that category and and we came up with this idea. I remember you and I are brainstorming about it. which was they were going to do? A big back to School campaign and of course there's lots of PR around back to school every career and you had this awesome idea. How do we hijack back to school? and You created a day called textbook Tuesday. which was the day that that you needed to get your text? Books rented by and so they hijacked back to school press by Inventing Day called textbook Tuesday and it made a huge difference difference in the launch of the business. Nothing another great example. Chris and we do use specific trend Jack Technique several times so for instance we have the GPO coming over here which is a data regulation We would for company WHO's doing a anti anti malware still getting exfiltrated so we knew do. How long did average zero day exploit means out on your hats before you actually find out is and then we backed up from when the GDP wasn't said if you we do not know on this specific day whether or not you've been hacked you'll scrutiny gonna be in for a big fine we call? 'cause he was exfiltration recall that X. Day things like that were very well with the media. Yes there you're hijacking You know the change in the regulations in our privacy in Europe exactly which would turn out to be a big thing but the only thing he can the only way you do that is to become a bit of a unused junkie. Yeah that's the next part of the the next part of the process right predict predict. It's called a news cycle for reason. Of course you used to be a journalist so so what do you mean by a predict and sort of grab hold of the news cycle so you can have the best friend in the world and the most talented bunch should feel professionals that you can afford ready to go but timing is everything. It's called a new cycle for a reason. There are limits in time and you can inject yourself is the conversation a moment in time we will just get a lot of media. Thank you dumps yesterday. All these days. That was two hours ago. You need to to be ready to go but you need to get into the story at the right time and that means looking at where the story developing find out who's places where the stories bubble up. You know we talk about ready earlier and twitter and places like that and some of the sort of citizen Genu- general isn't that you see these days you can see the stories developed before they go mainstream just just as they go mainstream. That's when you WanNa hit it. That's the top of the news cycle. It you need to know that by observing your target so to speak and hitting the Roy yeah fascinating and I also there's some pattern recognition. We can use here right. Typically when a story breaks there's there's just the the facts about it. XYZ happened right. And there's there's little color background and so the press does the the breaking news piece but then they go looking for depth right they go looking for commentary from people in the industry are associated with it and they want to do some more backstories stuff and so the story begins to unfold. And so what I love but what you're saying is your journalists. Soon as story breaks. They're going to write something but then they want background and commentary in these kinds of things and if you're the executive team that's right there as the story is developing that NEWSCORP. aww cycle is evolving. You actually play right into what they need at that point in time. Yeah I'm thinking about it right here in the UK. There's a single today's program that leads the news. Everybody in the in the news media listened to back up to die. The guy's the newspaper stopped figuring out what they're going to produce a Dan US meeting thing which is going to go in the evening papers which time the lunchtime as is developed stories. Drop some stories around other stories. Just gotTa figure out when the right time to do. That is an as a- friends in the hedge funds of hedge funds. Recite all the time. Look for that. Next ounce of the bull see that's the prediction addictions skill that you need and be done. Have it in house or you know have any DNA you know. There's lots of out near the will of agencies insolvency who do Yep all right the next step prepare prepare prepare and so Maybe explore that a little bit. What are we preparing to do as we get ready to trend Jack here right soon so you WANNA do? Is You want to be like done a little bit of game playing about that bounce of the ball so you know often stories can break two ways when you get to like advance level transacting equally prepared for both eventualities. Let me give you an example so we have apprenticed currently the Medical Boris Johnson controversial figure. And nothing you guys in the states about about controversial leaders but he recently had a newspaper to two zero t versions of an opinion because he has a regular column. And this was about whether or not we're GONNA leave your like not an insignificant piece in you supposed to joining he hedged his bats and he wrote one piece that was he's very pro brexit as we call it a one piece which is very negative just so when the news broke he was ready to drop the piece out was was brexit. And if you haven't got found out for his technique you would've looked like a era but he's Sorta gave the game away a little. That's what I mean by. Prepare his look at the eventualities. CARLOTTI's get you figure out your angles spokespeople out channels. You can bring to the policy on. Just get ready to go and you said a very important thing in their. Get Your quotes ready to go right. Yeah sounded like ready totally an and so you know what you're looking for their with their spokespeople folks who've you can like give good quotes as we say But also you the sort of people that will give a range inch of quotes because we said On many ways so you need to be ready for that and you need to have like other materials may have articles that you you WanNa do another great one at the open letter that you want to send out like Google does something you want to address them seed you send them in Atlanta which lunches entirely is money some techniques to the guests you so ready prepared to strike I remember years ago We were a trend jacking an acquisition in the industry that had taken a long time and it was a little bit Sort of Problematic and it was playing out over time in the media. And I don't know if you remember this so you created this quote for me to tell the the press that watching this acquisition was like watching two porcupines mate. Okay okay well you kind of the beautiful things they need to be memorable. Well it was highly quotable right and so it ended up. I don't know several hundred papers because the other beauty not of this of course is if you can talk to a wire service Reuters Bloomberg associates. AP things along those lines you might talk to one reporter. One pithy quote like that could end up in several hundred newspapers around the globe. Absolutely those those why. Why says his are amazing? And they're all sort over here in Europe they are country specific. And you bring on another interesting based friend of mine's got a company that deploys freelance writes likes to citizen journalists in places like Wolfson's and these these days the newsdesks need that comment quick. So you need to be both very provocative and in the case of those guys that are on the ground you need to be in the right place at the right time and be crowds. Timing is not just a quote as the Chinese the Combo the brings the goodness well. And this is something I find a lot of executive. CEO's don't understand right if if there's news happening and we WANNA trend Jack it and there's a writer on deadline in the news broke three hours ago and were in this example maybe using our CEO Our CEO has to be willing to a come out of her meeting and re swizzle her counter a little bit to talk to the press that day because their need for people to comment is going to be over in six hours and so You know it's it's not like a standard press briefing where you can schedule it. A few weeks out when the news breaks if you're trying to be in in it executives were being spokes. People have to be willing to be highly accessible highly accessible to think about the And yet the natural time delays in news breaking in America visits the An you're by if we're speaking up four o'clock doc. In the afternoon in Newsday we've got a story and we can't get the exactly as o'clock in the morning California time. We have a problem because the first time he has a foam agendas Dennis you with hundreds of inbound calls a day. I know what's going on with the news. The first person he hits me with something credible. I'm GONNA use that and the very next I. It hits me okay. No matter how good the quote is useless as yesterday's fish and chip paper so you really need to be on it. And so that's why. That's that's why we're saying before about having this free kind payrolls and being predictive way where the news is gonNA bounce stocks to secret now number six six be pragmatic original but ready to flex your angles What is happening? Paul right so Even with so you know the the best and most talented Consulting Agency folks on handed the most talented in house team and thinking through everything you want to think through. It's it's it's not like science right. It's still a little bit of It may be that a story breaks and people turning it in a way that you didn't see. Yeah I like it might be that. There's a on an issue with the with the retailer and then it all goes from being a piece of the problem with the supply chain into something consumer you have to be able to flip your angle and be even walk That he stopped he started with so in other words would as well has being in the moment. You need to stop flexing pretty quickly and that probably will live interaction between the wheels prisoners and who was bringing that news to the the media So one of the things that we that we do is editor open license. So you can plant something like a time bomb. If you will that will blow when needed so in other words you can say to any company wants to you disagree with what you said just putting this on recco. Oh and the whole reason we do that is so we can go back and pick it up late. So an example. Would you be would be Ashley Madison. database the adult dating site that blew up and we mentioned that is one of our clients and settler this story we think the fat. You're inside the security. Not very good for you to come on this and for reasons that were pretty obvious. They said nuanced talk. Say we don't want anything to do with this so we said okay. Would you told the soul. We went away and wrote something up is we were conscious of this second bounce of the ball and the second bounce of the bull was yes. It's been hot and now the databases for free on the incident at that point once only original analysis going out we could rid ourselves instance stories insight okay. Would you like to know how this is actually done. And then it becomes an analysis piece and be ready and we have flex when we were going we would. It has been some fascinating so even a story like that where it's a super hot story but its potentially negative to your brand hold back ACA little let the first one or two news cycles go and then come in in this case with a how they might have sort of a Dan protected themselves. So this didn't happen exactly Yeah so you. There's a lot of this is why enjoy the game so much. And why are you interested in tragic in an feel that it's a good weapon for them to deploy for that category. Spend a lot of time in the news cycle cool and figuring out probabilities of other stories breaking out of it. Yeah fascinating and then number seven be persistent. So what does does it mean to be persistent to persistent trend jacker Yup com emphasize. This enough like the likelihood you're GonNa hit with your first one or two attempts Very very low. There is a skill. Set that you build up from it but there are also some if you will evergreens that you can use took practice because these stories perennial. They're not going away. So if you have the right level of assistance it's the same. It's upton safer just to go for one of these stories and try things out because they're gonNA come around anyway. What I mean specifically about assist is done gave up on the first one or two places? This is don't expect you know the the The New York Times or the Wall Street of the Times of London Financial Times. It's GONNA take time. You may ninety two to three or four different folks may need to flex your angle as we said before he may even needs a timeout. Come back again but certain stories unknow going away we talked to you. Know the the record good slash holiday sales and be titled You Name The commodity that you're talking about classic is CEO to pressure. Now be flagged recently so we were until recently we were we were attendance sliding but dash asteroid Eros on by many times. Can you insert yourself into that story. you know great new Hot New trends. You know things that think of things like toys will. Oh I phones or whatever anything new. That's coming out. You could predict they have to have a loan state for that. You can get all over that this is what we'd start to prepare and another great one especially with you guys in the states and the Abbey's nonfarm wages the tonight's government statistics. That like it or not. You're has to release those things on entirely highly predictable and you can just practice away and keep assistant. You hit the trend. Jack that gets you WANNA get too. Yep I I love of it and the other thing too about persistency is maybe you're not gonNA get in the Wall Street Journal the first time pro probably not but you might get in some respected Ed but much smaller lesser known industry blog. And so. That's okay right. Starting small building a bit of a reputation Getting a name amongst the journalists you know building up overtime then. Maybe you get in the Times of London absolutely and don't forget as well. These guys. On The Times of London on the baby specifically we actually know which titles which are often sex titles they read themselves to research their stories so we know that there are seed titles from which the major titles take the news so yeah and one of the things you can do and this is something laxity asclepius. You can read feed those stories from the less finals. Enter the bigger titles explaining why you think it's relevant to Sun. High pollution listen journalists to pay attention to this trend is clearly being recognized down in the trades. Let's say And so you can if you like. Recycle the tragic. That's yeah pretty involved. But it's something that we sit here and it's nothing so gratifying to see that the story developed the other thing. I love about trend. Jacking is because of what it is the seven steps you just outlined. There's a lot of companies that aren't going to do do this and so it is very rare in marketing in PR and communications where you can develop a strategic skill set that you know l. for the most part most of your competition either won't or can't pull it off. It's really gratifying. Actually I mean it's terrible analogy but there are certain sports weather positions where you'd be useless any of the position but the position but trend jacking posited. That is what we are about what was have about it. People come to us for now if you don't want that if you happy playing from game or you know facebook expurgated up leads so you don't have average bill that's acceptable but if you're GONNA we're GonNa work with you. We need a little bit of leverage to still shit and we're happy. I love that all right anything else on trend. Jacking Dr Mar.. I would just reemphasize the lowest point. Christopher I I love to systems you know God loves it. Try and you'd like a first time. You'll be amazing. Hit but if you keep going you will get an Taylor. Line silently what. He wants to look his Tokyo talking to you about it. 'cause I appreciate the auto bit I sure do and I really appreciate you and I. I'm so oh stoked that you've become the master sense of trend jacking. Thanks Dave my friend really appreciate. It's time all of that through the coast. You smashing it speak to you again soon. I hope thank you hope to have you back on a regular basis by by by by well there. It is trend jacking with the legendary Eh. Paul Maher sure. Hope you enjoyed that conversation and it makes a giant difference in your legendary marketing. All right we would like to thank the legendary Palmar arch checkout positive marketing dot com positive marketing dot com The good folks at one life live dot. Org

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Ear Hustle Extra: In It for the Long Haul

Ear Hustle

11:14 min | 1 year ago

Ear Hustle Extra: In It for the Long Haul

"I'm Bruce Willis producer for your hustle. This episode contains language and depictions of violence that may not be appropriate for some listener's discretion is advised. What about sorry guys peeing bike? It's not so easy for Women To pee. So is that ever an issue? Believe it or not you're listening to ear hustle from PR XS Radio Tovia. I'm Alan Woods. My co-host just asked a very unusual. I did an important question if your lady truck driver. I'm not a lady truck driver Nigel. Poor and we're doing something very different sedan your hustle. This is not a regular ear hustle episode season five begins on March fourth but in season four we interviewed a woman by the name of Erica. Solano she had done time in prison and we talked to her about a romantic life post prison and also the dating advice. You have people just getting out of prison. We heard her in episode called. I won't the fairytale and since getting out of prison. Erica has become a commercial truck driver and I don't know why but at the end of the interview I was just curious about you know peeing. I mean mail truck. Drivers can just an empty bottle but it's not so easy for US chicks. I don't have a problem. I have a strong bladder and I drink tomato juice so I do have to use the bathroom a lot but I just stop and I use the bathroom wherever I stop but For guys it's Gross. 'cause they don't have strong bladders and they just pee wherever they wanna be but for women There's there's contraptions to use. That's always wondering what are they. Have you ever seen them? No Russia okay but I was at a anyhow. We got to talking to Erica about trucking and it turns out that it's not uncommon for incarcerated people men and women to get into trucking when they get out new guys inside who spent a lot of time reading books trucking. They were getting ready for those tests when he got out. And since I've gotten out I've met a couple of truckers on parole. I mean after being contained in that one little itty bitty area for year. You just want to get out there. Get on those streets and hit the road. I mean even me. I love you loving. If I have to go somewhere calm I know appear prison both shackled in looking at another cars and seeing people free. You just want to be on a row. That was me so I mean if I wasn't doing this podcast I might be on a roll myself. Truckin Oh my God. Indeed I mean isn't slightly. Do that in any case we decided to revisit. That tape of Erica talking about trucking in honor of a brand spanking new podcast launched by radio. Be a you know that network. That was a part of this. Episode is part of a Special Radio Topa wide project welcoming new radio. Toby show into the family. It's called over the road and it tells the story of American long haul truckers changing and culture daily life on the road. You have driven a truck for almost forty years now with some help from the good folks at Radio. Topi overdrive magazine. I'm GonNa take you along for a ride. That's the host of over the Road Paul. Maher offer been driving for something like forty years. I actually talked to Paul while back just when he was getting going on developing this show. We chopped up about podcasting which was an honor. Made me feel like an Paul. He was very passionate and knowledgeable about his truck and going deep into the world of trucking. We're a family to live at Marie. Lead it to hear stories of the past. You need to step away from here strings on the steering loan changing today. It's the freedom of it and that's kind of being taken away. I'm long-haul Paul. And this is over. The road. First Episode Rolls Out February twentieth forever. You find your podcasts. I'm really excited about this. Too and to celebrate your hustle and all the other radio topiary shows are producing episodes on a trucking related theme. The long haul and this is ours. You know what night over the road kind of reminds me of us. Everyone knew about prison but they didn't know what life was really like. Oh that's true. And we all see those trucks on the highway. But God knows what daily life entails. Wait a minute get it. I'm sorry but it's a Little Cup your coochie and then it has a little spout in the up through it but if you really bad the pressure would just go all over the place. And so I actually don't even use it. It's for when you have a really low stream you WanNa just take your time is slowly but can you. Can you use it while you're driving or you have to pull over? You'd have to pull over. Yeah there there you just get. Pow's yeah but no. I I never have a problem all right enough of that. Eric told us she's been driving for about three years and she drives. What's called a day cab? So there's no sleeping compartment and she doesn't do long hauls like Paul and that's not because she's on parole in can't cross state lines no. She's not on parole at all. The reason she doesn't do long-haul is because she has cats and bring a lot a lot of it as she doesn't want to leave him alone for too long right. Erika Toda set aside from the fact that it takes her away from her cats. She loves almost everything else about the job. There's the freedom. The fact that driving a truck takes all of her energy and focus. She likes it. There's a Lotta multitasking. Although sometimes she says she sees people doing a questionable types of multi tasking. I saw one guy looking through the pages of a Playboy magazine. Once that was weird I was going to take a picture and when he saw that I was looking at him. I had to pretend like I was like while he was driving. His Dome Light was on and he was traveling right next to me and he was just flipping through pictures of naked girls. And I'm like wow. There is one thing she really does not like about. The job is not the job exactly is some of the other truckers male truckers would. I don't like this very insulting is when other truck drivers. See me coming out of the cab and they asked me. If I'm driving an automatic. Why would it be automatic? Why do you think I can't shift think I I can't float my gears? That's weird and you might have guessed. Eric doesn't look like a stereotypical truckdriver. Look like I realized. I'm becky myself into a corner and you know what I am. Definitely someone who needs to listen to over the road because is actually going to inform me moonwalking. So what I'm going to say is that to my present mind. She doesn't look like a stereotypical truckdriver she superfit. She's pretty and she pays a lot of attention to look Erica. She's a bee's she's not to be fucked with me. Spent twenty years in the Peon and actually back before she got in trouble with the law. She wanted to beat a law. That's right she wanted to be a cop a constable on patrol now while she's out driving it's like she's part of the highway patrol. I'm on the phone to the cops all the time. I see crazy shit. What do you mean? You're the cops all the time? There's crazy stuff going on the freeway all the time like Ali driving and then there's a ladder I call the cops on like I am number two lane Northbound eight eighty. There is a ladder and and I don't know who dropped it and then a few minutes later I'll call back like didn't you just call me. I said Yeah. But there's a mattress on the freeway. Now I didn't know that people called that's that's all day long. What number do you cautious when one or the regular CHP number CHP is the acronym for California Highway Patrol? I didn't know that's how they got if I call nine one one and and it doesn't connect me to see hp than the the operator disconnects me see HP. I've only stopped one time. But that's because there was somebody in the in the fast lane trying to make people stop and they were waving their arms and they were standing in the Fast Lane. They got into an accident in their car was up against the side Wall Medium. Call Nine one one and I rolled the window down and I started screaming at the person. Getting your car getting your car. Now get off the freeway and then the person who is waving heard it was my voice and she was a teenager and she had been drinking and her face was split open and she was trying to get people on the freeway to stop in the Fast Lane. And so I'm looking at this girl bitch. You're about to die. She didn't die because Erica. Was there on the phone with the. Chp Erica told. She sees a lot of scary shit out there while she's driving around and she also had a few close calls borough one day. She was getting off the freeway and her brakes failed. I felt like I just had to do what the hell do. Keep from killing anybody. I was Coming Downhill on Airport Boulevard in Stockton and I lost my breaks all the way to the floor. It was just absolutely nothing. I couldn't change gears because my RPM's for just so high. I my my gear. Shift was locked in. I was just driving right into the intersection and my light turned red and their light turned green and nobody could see that. I was having a problem and the cars started going in the car right in front of me. It was just enough to where I made a left in a whipped around him may like a C- like ch and then and then I jack knifed to stop and I destroyed a trailer because I was carrying doubles and there were tomatoes and and I completely demolished the light signal box. But I couldn't stop. That was Erica. Solano talking to US last season and as I mentioned earlier this preseason episode is part of a radio TOPI white. Welcome to a brand new show over the road which is made in partnership with overdrive magazine Guest Richard. Indeed over. The road explores the daily life and changing culture. Trucking in America host Palmar hoffer also known as long alcohol has driven trucks for nearly forty years and brings you along for the ride. You can find his show over the road wherever you get your podcast and don't forget season. Five of your Hustle Begins Market for it. You'll hear more about that soon. I'm Nigel Poor Paul. Paul and I'm earl woods ten radio.

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Ep. 8 - Lumpy and Leosin, Part 1

Roleplay Replay

1:56:54 hr | 8 months ago

Ep. 8 - Lumpy and Leosin, Part 1

"Previously on tyranny of dragons Perpetual reconnaissance mission home when last we left our heroes after finding a safe spot to make Camp. The group is surprised with the heartfelt apology from their Champion sneak an intense conversation follows falma Reveals His allegiance to the Harpers and his secret mission to rescue Leia same page as the group settles in for arrest gye mere and Falmer set out towards the enemy encampment in search of information the trio of Heroes. It's just gone a long long time pretty much half of the session. If at any point you thought to yourself there probably about to head back to camp now. You were wrong Leia since fate is revealed during a very loud discussion between frullati and a menacing black half dragon get the Harper layoffs in will be question. Dawn and then he will die. The group still doesn't go back to camp and finds themselves in a guard Tower with five. Very unsuspecting guards after a little lap dog and an interesting conversation about what software is compatible with mirrors Hardware the group finally travels back to camp. with the band finally reunited and a strategy still not decided on the full roster of Our Heroes head back into the enemy encampment off ready to spring their trap that they haven't yet decided on the rear guard is under attack thinned and Guy Yell at the top of their lungs creating a massive distraction Badger Oz creates a tunnel for escaping project nurse and wreak finds himself entering into a mysterious cave will reeks apology be enough to unite the hero off during their most stressful time. Why is the lumpy one so damn Lumpy? And the group rescue lesson from his appointment with death at Don is Belmar the only Harper who thinks he can talk to birds and how short do you have to be to ride the mere find out on today's episode of parenting of dragons? Just to refresh foul Marne mere and paws off. You guys stand west of the northern ramp among the tall vegetation along with a large group of prisoners that were liberated through a badger tunnel. Okay guy and Finn you find yourselves Southwest of the quote unquote boujee town near the large bonfire looking past the bonfire. You can currently see the massive x-shaped torture rack where layoffs in is still currently bound the the veteran that you rolled a natural 20 on your charisma check has gone back off to the 10th and at least at this moment in time. You don't know off. What's going on with that? But you do see movement and people running around kind of to the north of you now reeked you find yourself over here off by this tiny little cave all by yourself. There is a small group of kobolds to the east of you but because of pass without trace and your your thoughts were all quietness. You're currently among some some tall vegetation. Just just peering into the cave, which is actually where we last left off what I'd like to do reek. I'd like you to roll a D20 thin and guide choose one roll a D20 mere Oz Palmar choose one roll a D20 natural one. Tuck Greg. You want me to do it? Yeah, you do it. I used my sister dies. That usually brings me luck. Yeah, not bad m o 13. Okay. So then fell ma Roz mere who's rolling for you guys. It looks like it's Palmar. I'm just rolling 3-month. I'm trying to figure out which guys do tonight. I don't care who rules. Okay. Somebody picked enrolled us do it. Okay 15. So Monday, we will start with Finn or sorry Oz Belmar and mere. Okay good that didn't mean anything except that. So there's a lot of things there's a lot of things going on. There's a lot of things that are going to be happening simultaneously. Okay Falmer oezdemir. I need perception checks from you 9 sorry 15. Okay. I'm the road twice. Yep. You have Advantage 16 + 1,000. So you're all the same thing twice and then found my role 214 Okay, cool. So you guys as you stand there among the high the high vegetation you see a group of three guards mere and film are they they do look somewhat familiar to you. They're coming down this ramp. They're dodging the the tall grass in difficult terrain and they're moving away from the guard Tower in this direction. You see them sort of disappear behind this tent over here dead. You see general movement. You can't see what's happening near the bonfire and where layoffs in is, but there is some movement mirror you notice to the South there's some movement and it seems to be that people are sort of moving toward like the opening of the Cave of the the camp rather. Okay into the center of the camp or by where the big fall bonfire is in the middle of them moving West past you toward the direction of what you know to be the opening of The Horseshoe, okay? Valmar, Oz and I had talked. A little bit in hushed words instead of instead of plan and we're going to try to take these people like just out of Out Of Reach and Stow them for now and come right back home, All right, where would you like to do that? We're going to take them to that same place that I crawled out that wasn't quite up the ramp, but it's to the right. So I'm going to start moving my office in that way. Okay hugging the cliff wall. I need you to make a stealth check and the three of you will still have passed without Trace. All right. I'm going to make one roll for all the prisoners + 718 + 10. So 28. Remember you have passed without Trace nice bath twenty-eight so Twenty Eight Twenty Eight and twenty nine. Okay, so then I'll roll for the for the prisoners. Jordan mine was a 19 total. Oh you added into it already. I rolled a three on the dice. Okay. Okay. So Twenty Eight Twenty Eight nineteen and then for the prisoner 614, okay, so that's really good. All right, so you guys are moving you can get to about here with the prisoners and I'm going to need another stealth roll from you guys. So 25 for Amir. 25 for us to Belmar. Are you still adding ten when you tap that total in? I am okay good spell 25 + 25 + 18 in + 5. / all right, so worst definitely worse but so far no one's noticed anything. Yeah, I'm rolling really shit perception checks. Okay, so we can make it about this far with another stealth roll like you can make it to me here and then I need another stealth role. So 26 for mere Thirty. Belmar 36, okay, nice 26 + 30 + 36. + this is stupid you guys + 18 g. Go up the damn hill middle of the road. So at this point you can definitely get to hear and your average right now is twenty-two. These guys are not going to see you. Okay, can we walk up this incline where you are right now? No, you can't walk up at you have to climb they crawl like on your belly kind of quiet time or off the road. It's not a climb that requires like climbing gear. It's like a steep incline. Okay? Okay. I say we consider them. Should we go up up right this place where around Do I recognize is this the same place? I climbed up before it is. Yep, then this is where we would I was trying to leave them. I'm going to climb up and then drop some Road. Okay. So go ahead and give me an Athletics check found Marta climate quickly. The DC is pretty low. You typed in chat in that way. I see it. So as as tries to climb up this slope, you see some of the rocks and things starting to give way Oz me Ur. You have an opportunity to sort of take a reaction. You can either try and quiet these rocks and things or you can try to help them are there are two of you so you could conceivably do both. I'm going to help falmore. Okay. I'm going to try and make it less noisy. Get some rocks. Okay. So Oz make a dexterity saving throw off. Just a straight deck save and then with me Ur helping very nice with mere helping falma. Are you can just make the check again as though you were making it with Advantage? Okay. So as as mere reaches out and sort of studies you just as you start to fall back, she reaches up and puts a hand on one hamstring. It's like right in the right place and she gets a leverage just right. There's no way she could hold up your body weight, but because of the way that she saw you falling she keeps you from just paying cake and backwards as the land slides out from under you and Oz pulls like just this wicked juggling Act of like just catching these rocks and keeping them from from making a bunch of noise and stacks them in a nice neat little pile sound bar with an eighteen you sort of look at yourself and you find a couple of places where the rocks have moved down and you can you can sink your fingers into some dirt climb in your way up to the top. So I'd like to look around to see if there's a rock or some route that I can tie it securely 14 make a perception check out there is a small like rock formation with some some roots and bushes, like kind of growing up through it. You feel pretty confident you'd be able to Anchorage enough there as everybody starts to do this. I need one final stealth check from all of you eighteen and mirrors at a 20 to 22. So often 18 years or 22 Palomar. What was your still 21 and then the prisoners? Prisoners are pulling their weight. All right. So, let's see. What was it? 21 + 22 + 18 + 1821 + 2 + 18 + 18. Yeah. We're in good shape. No way. These guys are going to see my guards would have to roll a natural 20 with disadvantaged. They're drunk and it's dark and they did not see you so you can get up this this slope with your prisoners. No problem. So me and I was go ahead and move so that I don't move you by accident and I will grab the civilians and bring them up here. I would have offered to go up first because if you can support life support, there's well with the Rope. Anchored well and found Mark standing there by its there was no need for any sort of checks or anything. This was like Batman old-school Adam West, you know off of the side of the building night. No problem. You've got them up. There's there is vegetation up here. There is Tallgrass clarification about the same level as off the guard Tower are we know you are now above the guard Tower? Okay. So as you as you look around where you are now, you're standing in Tall Grass the closest life thick vegetation. Is here so the spot it's a spot. I put the Rally Point on its Northwest Northwest. Okay, cool. Let's look around and walk in that general direction. Cuz we've seen let's have perception checks from from the three of you before we go. I'm going to untie and take my work back the prisoners or just huddling and trying to stay low under the high-growth. Okay you nine. Wow. Wait. No. This is perception. Check found more often not stealth. okay, 36 perception Austin film are as you guys look at across so you now see Some movement down here by the fire falma are you you're able to see layoffs in you see two figures that you recognized as guy and Finn and they're currently talking to some they're talking to a man wearing armor. He's large his armor looks to be kind of dark and as you look past you can actually see the tip top of a guard Tower and there appears to be two small points of light that are moving in their best. You can tell there's only two people in that guard tower now fell Martin long as you also would have noticed that there's only a couple people in the guard Tower near didn't we leave some rope? Going down the cliff towards our bivouac if there are only two guards and we know that they're typically drunk we did do we think we can send them that way instead of going to a point? Absolutely is it dark enough that I could draw a map in the soil to show where it is or light enough. I think in this country, I think in this moment you would need to make you would need to make some pretty successful checks to be able to convey all that information to these people who are like running for their lives right now. I'll just say this choosing between guiding them to that rope or trying to draw a map to convey the information to them would probably take about the same amount of time. Okay, these are all humans. Right all the people from greenest are humans. You're not sure about the the two people that you don't recognize we need to know if somebody can see in the dark to lead them because if we sell them on their own there if there are human there's going to have to find a light source, they can navigate towards but if they have somebody who had some dark vision, maybe we can send them a different point of reference. Are you saying this out loud know? Okay going to say it out loud says are off of you human. So at that point one of the people that you don't recognize pipes up in like a female voice and says, what's it to you? Why do you care off? You don't want to get caught. Can you see in the dark? Yeah, well enough in the dark why we look at Farmer and say maybe we should Point them towards something. Maybe we should get them out of here symbol on their own down to the prisoners. There's a spot to the Northwest that has some pretty tall vegetation that you could try to hide there for a little while and we could try to come back to get you but what might be safer is working your way around the the Horseshoe to a rope that we left going down the cliff. It's your choice which way you want to go but I can't guarantee that we'll get back to you at the Rally Point in the vegetation. They sort of turned each other and say home and you hear like discussing it for a moment. They say exactly is the Rope. So I try to draw in in the ground like just just the basic horseshoe shape with the little divot. I mean, let me see. Yeah with all the fires down in the Horseshoe. It would be pretty hard for you to talk to see all the way across it. It's pretty far all the way across. All right make a performance check real quick. And you can add your dexterity instead of your charisma rolled a six. So I just have to see what my performance it's is it going to be just dexterity. Are you proficient performance then you just add just entered X, so it's a tan it's easy enough to kind of like approximate the shape of the Horseshoe and like approximate. Basically, we're on a rope is and so let me see. Yeah, I mean in a distinctly you've drawn a distinctly average map and in the distinctly average way the the person so they can see in the dark as she moves closer you found Mari recognizes. She's a half elf and she says I think I can get us there. I mean these people can't see we're going to be stumbling will have to move slowly carefully. But I think I can get us there. Once you get down will send a bird to search the area. If one lands towards you kind of a raven looking thing and it starts to try to lead. You just follow it. It'll lead you to us. Don't try to talk to it. So do you want us to just stay put once we come down the Rope? I mean no fire to find a place to hide where you would be seen only from a bird's-eye view, right? Okay, we'll do our best. Thanks for getting out of the tent, I guess and whatever the fuck you guys are doing in here. Good luck. I'm going to lean forward to her and be like if you look down. Where the Rope is and it doesn't seem safe or it seems busy just stay on top of the Horseshoe and just lay down and hide in the brush. That's up there. Right? Okay, Mom. Our little hiding spot is hard to find so that's why we're not telling me where it is. Understood. I think I'm very sorry. I wish I could help you more. We have two little boys to go find a little kids to go find we have any daggers to give them. I think me and you mention that I'm going to pull out one of my daggers and that I have that I pulled off that dead body and I'm going to hand it to the the elf and be like just in case if you come across somebody and it's something that you need to the half-elf. I'm going to you gave it to the elf song. One of them are they have felt so I'll pull I have a short sword. Can any of you use this? The human female with dark hair freckles and undercut on one side of her head. She stepped forward. She she like box your hand in the sword pops up in the air and she snags it out of the air and sort of brandishes it around. She's like, I think I know which end does the work. I'm going to look at her appreciatively and like not As you look at how far they have to go they're going to be making a lot of stealth rolls. Just want to be clear about that. They have a lot of ground to cover as far away from the tower as you can I mean they're going to be traveling like probably over a thousand feet from where they are to get to where that rope is how far down the cliff on the other side near where lessons I'm not sure. I understand what you're asking. So like if we were to drop a rope on the southern side of the Horseshoe where layoffs interest out of view from the light, how how tall is that? Clip looking at where the cliff is nearest to lessen its acts like it's actually a little bit low over here. There's there's a spot where it's maybe Thirty or forty feet. Why don't we lead them towards that direction and then use that as our Escape Route 4 lesson. Okay, we can try but hopefully he's not a wreck. We'll see what we can we can lead you part of the way. Okay. Sure fine. Let's get stealth role. Now that you guys are with them. They can move a little bit quicker. But let's just have those barrels from you guys again, you're still throws really really help them. I'm going to look to them and say I can I can cast pass without Trace once more but it'll be the last time I can cast it you're looking to the prisoners know. I'm looking to mirror in falma and say I can only put out so much magic. You still have life better part of an hour on this first casting it lasts for an hour. So it's it's only been maybe 10 15 minutes that you cast the first time. I was hoping to extend it to the Prince George. As well, okay, but then then the others would lose the yeah, never mind not worth it. Do not do it. Does it stack though does extend know I can't concentrate off it does not stack. You can't duplicate the effects of us bail. Even if somebody else cast it you wouldn't have it twice. All right, let's roll. 13 + 7 + 10. Okay. So 2733 still check. Yeah, self-check nice 29 we're getting to about here. Okay. All right. So here comes the prisoners. Oh, all right. I got to do math. Hold on. So we've got a 24 a 36 Oz you're twenty-nine, right? Yes to Friday by still in really good shape really really good shape even with their to you guys are really carrying them good. All right. So let's have another stealth roll. We're going to make it to just above the cave. Now at this point. That's they're backing. I think we should head towards that giant and off in 30. J&n. What what Giant in you'll see Thirty. Oh, I see what you're talking about. Okay so long 56 years. So we're Thirty 2633. Yeah, we're golden go ahead and move so about here. Nobody's you guys are just blowing these stealth out of the water even all these Drake's. Oh, there's well, but they're rolling disadvantage. Somebody would have to roll 220s. I did roll a natural twenty just now but they're rolling a disadvantage because of where you are and how dark is. All right one more stealth role will get you to write here. Twenty two twenty to Thirty twenty-seven years. Yeah. We're going to make it. We're going to make it go ahead and move mirror then here they come. All right. So at this point is this about where you wanted to think about drugs or Is this where that seems a little scary? How about Behind These tents? Yeah, okay. So you want to go a little further? Yep, please. All right, you guys have been super successful with your stealth rolls and as dark as it is over here and with nobody around I'm going to say moving through the difficult terrain, you can go ahead and position yourselves. And as you get ready to to drop the rope, we're actually going to go ahead and jump back over to reek reek reek reek reek reek is still alive right now. So I will say this reek as you look at this, this this situation you recognized a few things right up front Okay. I had you roll the perception check. I think you rolled a 16 if I recall correctly. I don't remember. My head we could check the podcast but I'm pretty sure it was a 16. Okay, but cause of where these fires are these small candles that are near the entrance here you deduce that there there is no way if anyone is is like just facing the entrance to this cave with the purpose of seeing someone come inside short of being able to become invisible. There's no way you're entering this cave without someone seeing you do so. Well, there's torches right outside the cave right those are campfires and then that large Rock right in front of you has some candles some of which are large enough you could pick up and carry life torch. Some of those candles are really big. All right, you're going to pull the hood pretty far down and grab a candle and keep my head down and make my way in Palm Okay, so So as you as you do you hear several voices? All right reciting in a language that you don't understand. Okay, finally all of them sort of coalesced into this Unison. You hear several voices speaking at the same time, but they say the same thing. Yeah fairly mudokon. No me know born truth dog Rock Tour. And as you enter the cave you can go ahead and proceed inside if you wish I'll give you a little torch action here. And you said you hear the sound of to like like bumps as you look further inside. You see two figures the two figures with their large she's dead. Here on either side of the room and they just kind of stand and bring their Shields to a position that is ready. I need you to go ahead and make a wisdom save list and save your life natural twenty plus K. 82. Okay, as you come inside you here in five distinct voice all speak to you at the same time in your your mind is nearly overwhelmed. You hear them say one says, oh comes to the sect of the extra another Choice. What do you bring to my altar? What will you place before the crew a third come bring yourself to bask in her intro P off another the dark lady would know your hearts and then finally a v voice watch is your place in the great cycle song. As you hear these voices this figure at this altar turns and looks towards you takes a single step as it lowers its hood and turns to look at you said you notice that it has five head that it is a massive Cobalt with five distinct heads all of which look at your life same time. How do you respond? Is there any kind of sense does reek have any kind of second tell you what Nathan since and right now wage, but I'm curious. What what Greek is picking up right now. What is renew? Yeah. So what do you do in Greek you come in closer off? I'm going to come closer. Okay, this figure just stands before you hand spread awaiting your response off. Are asked like five five questions and because of your role you weren't just overwhelmed you were able to process all of them here all fine that's down to valve before you I'm going to keep taking some steps forward. Okay, and you see like how deep breath some of the heads kind of move a couple of them kind of come down lower and and as you like approach they they sort of splay out why it almost like a cobra right off powering before me and this is five voices speaking simultaneously. Your faith is admirable, but you are misguided child. I am not your queen guide me. She sort of took turns and holds out one hand to you and and the other toward this alter that as she sort of has moved to the side. You see it completely covered off with wax candles. There are a few objects upon the stone as you approach closer. You can you can make out small pendant of different colors. Do there I see any do I see the dwarves at all make a perception check with disadvantaged because I assume you're you're probably not trying to suck to overt as you do it. 15 from where you stand you do notice there are parts of this Cavern that you cannot see one of the law Shield bearing Cobalt seems to be standing near some barrels in a piece of cave bacon really thin Rock that's almost transparent, but you can't see past it and then there's a small opening in the wall over here. You do not know what is beyond that as you proceed it in. There was also an opening here. You do not know. What is beyond that she says well shall you approach if you'll allow me, you know continue moving forward? These culprits on either side. What are they doing as up isn't getting closer. They stand with their hands on either side of these massive Blue Shield that almost completely cover their bodies and they just look at you. I'm going to move up next to I'm going to move up next to the Cobalt off the 5 edit Global as you approach you notice the body of this being is is red red scaled Dragon, but there are elements of it that seemed almost almost fake were manufactured along some of the heck. There are a few scales that are other colors and there are places that have no scales. There's an element of Almost like fabrication about this being like you're almost struck like someone maybe maybe put it together long as you stand she says well, will you make your prayer and an offering a child pull out my great acts? Okay, very slowly. You see the the Cobalts on on the shields. They sort of one hand comes off and kind of goes behind the shield as you start to bring out your grade home and I'm going to hold on to the great acts. I'm going to put it down in front of me and I'm going to take a knee and lower my head off a look to see if the Cobalts if I can see anything out of the corner of my eyes as far as what it's they're doing. Okay, make another perception check with disadvantage. 9 kind of lost track of their hands you don't really know exactly what's happening, but they have not moved there not moving closer to you. They're not moving further away in their posture does not seem to have changed as you take your need. Will you join me make your persuasion check with advancing age twenty that's sort of like Central head that almost looks maybe like the most normal of cuz you've seen like a lot of kobolds at this point. There's almost like a little bit of a smile and for a moment you notice a look in the eyes of of like off maybe genuine affection and and that head and only that had not all five responds and says, This time that we spend service to the queen is our most noble purpose. What is it that you would ask for this night system's she turns and like kneels down next to you and she says come closer and she kind of scoots toward the altar you notice as she slides across the floor. There's a trail of Blood on the stone that the candles are sitting in all I'm going to regret this. I'm going to stand up and say of course and stand up with the gray tax money. And and I'm going to take a swing you move you move closer to her. I'm going to move closer to her. And as I standard with the grass needs to like lay it back down, but when I go to take a knee again, I'm going to try and slash down. God damn, right? Okay, okay. She is like kneeling and not paying attention. I'm going to give you advantage on this attack roll. Okay, so I want you to go ahead and make that attack roll tell me that it is. Okay. Is it man? It's probably too late to say I'm raging you can do it as a bonus action. I'm going to rage, okay. Natural twenty it's oh man. Okay, okay 27th ahead. Yeah, go ahead and give me your damaged and just quick point of order your 1/2 work. So for you when you roll a natural 20 with your great acts, it's 3D 12 just a little side note. 24 points of damage 24 points of damage total. Okay. Yes. So with that you hear a horrible scream Amplified across these five heads just and we're going to go ahead and jump over off Vin and Guy stand by Rick will come back to you. All right fan and Guy the veteran walks away. That's what happened. The last time we visited with you guys. What would you like to do when the vet walks away? Well guys started walking towards the tent right and you stopped him. I'm going to grab him. Sorry don't you think we have other people we need to warn. I'm I'm going to say, oh, yeah, and then I'm going to like put my hand on it which ever side of my face had blood on it when I put my hand on the blood and then like smear it on my face and go. Oh God, and I'm so injured how the plane ready to help you. Let's go over here to these dead-end help me, please. Okay so much pain. Where do you guys move toward? Okay, so I want to go I was thinking This way and not go in the gym, but make it look like we're going into Tim's like okay in in between. Okay, I know that's not exactly towards drink. So as you guys as you guys had that way make perception checks for me 11:00 guy. Sorry said roll 2014 Ford Edge. Okay. Sorry, I didn't see it. Then. You're pretty you're pretty preoccupied with trying to find like a safe place for you guys. But you do notice like some some like movement. In fact one fellow you you notice one fellow steps out of this tent and Heads This Way, like just pays no attention to you guys and just met this way. Across Camp away from you. Okay? Okay guy from where you are you and with your role like you do notice, veteran from the bougie tent kind of comes back looks around doesn't see you guys. Yeah, it looks around and doesn't see you guys. He's frustrated often appears frustrated. You see him look back. He points at a couple of people you hear him giving a couple of orders, but you can't quite make out exactly what they are and he points like at the northern guard Tower. You don't know what that means right now. Okay, but you you guys get a sense that stuff is happening in places other than where you are right now. Okay, so I I'm going to relay this to Finn and I'm going to say oh no, we might have been made. I don't know for sure but they they might be on to us. I'm going to wake take the blood off my face and kind of just like wipe it on my sash a little bit and I'm going to say we should go find reek. He's all alone. Yeah, I like this way to kind of throw them off. So let's I think we should like go this way. Yeah. Yeah and then kind of probably outside edge of the tire light as you guys come around that tent you notice standing here by this tent Is a large pale like big muscular bald human is standing bare chest with his arms crossed off is wearing baggy white pants. And he's looking at the entrance to the Horseshoe his back is turned to you right now as we're running. I'm going to walk or jogging along. I'm going to kind of grab fin just by the shoulder a little bit and pull her so that we go like down around him to the towards the bottom. Okay, he's up here. We would go down underneath. Yeah exactly right here right here. Okay. I want to go around the bottom of that tint me walk a little off best best luck. He does kind of look like you see it almost like he registers your movement. But he just keeps looking out and you see him start to like walk in that direction slowly towards the entrance say God help that our friends haven't been found. But let's keep going. And then as you pass by this tent you notice guy you notice like just a couple of dudes. They're paying no attention to you at all. They seem to be you immediately recognize that they're like cleaning their kills from the day like deer elk like these guys are Hunters, you know from your experience that when you have a camp this big it's actually really lucrative for the hunters in the area. They may or may not owe any allegiance to these cultists at all. But clearly they are they're bringing meat like, you know, these guys your Ranger, you know what you're looking at home. Okay, okay, and they don't pay any attention to you guys as you run by Yep, they're doing their business. So you guys are you still running is a light jog maybe as long as it's at this point, you do notice a couple of like a small campfire in a gathering of kobolds. Okay. I'm going say let's hug the the Ridgeline and if they say anything just shut them down. Okay, I'm going to as we're doing this month. I'm going to take out my Maiale waterskin with a hole in it and I'm gonna like pop the cork a little bit. I'm going to take the the cork off and just like kind of be casually off taking not real swigs of it looking like I'm doing that as just like an a make a performance or deception whichever one's better for you. What does that I want to kind of put my arm around him and kind of like walk with them make it with Advantage guy. And in fact you have you have DM's inspiration to because Finn just put her arm around you. Best inspiration. Okay, how do I add cuz I did those how do I add the interest rates just roll again? Basically, I'm just giving you another free roll just do a roll a D20 With Another Day 2018. Yep. I'll do another performance. It's better. It's much better. Yeah, so you guys can kind of make your way along the cliff there the Cobalts definitely look at you. You're not being stealthy at all. But I think they're definitely used to people go in and finding a place in the bushes to do their business. So they don't seem to be paying really any attention to you. Okay. So as you guys continue to just make your way along the cliff here's what's going to happen. All right, so you guys can make your way to the opening there then and guy you guys are going to be on this map Greek. I'm going to drop you a couple of tokens. Okay, and then mercy is coming been there's Mercy make sure you have vision and you can control your tokens off. Yep. Okay. Yep. Okay. So as you guys approached the cave And you look inside gimme quick perception checks. Both of you 45. Okay fin as you guys approached the cave Guy starts to like make his way. He's like, he's like not slowing down at all. You guys don't see reek here where you expect it to so guy is like going in but you down as you approach your notice again because of where the light is and everything. There's no way anybody's going in here without being seen A and B, as you look further Inside passage the light actually because you don't have darkvision you actually your depth perception is actually a little better as you look inside. You see Greek standing inside the cave. Well, you see a figure with a hood broad muscular shoulders and a great acts. He appears to be talking to a figure inside the cave that you can log. Sure, but it looks like as it removes its Hood like almost like a like a bunch of snakes like fan out and it suck. It has like a bunch of heads, but it's crazy. It's like a giant it's the strangest thing but you watch and clearly wreak is interacting with this figure out and make it in sight check real quick gesture 12:00. Yeah, you you get a sense that maybe you just need a name of the man a moment, right? So you reach out and you stop guy from going inside and you just watch as things play out soon reek will step forward with your take a knee and start to move toward the Altar and a couple of moments pass three moments three three minutes. Maybe they talks to more dead. Did she like stopped me growing in her and she did she grabs you and kept you from going inside the cave. As you guys watch this play out being like you can't believe your eyes but as they move toward the altar at one point reek stands up and his tattoos flash into this brilliant like Smokey dim flash of light and he takes a huge deal with this great acts almost like there's nothing there and you hear that screen and now we're going to jump over to Belmar off and mirror again. I turned to foul more and I say, There when we came up here, I'd noticed that there was some brush and stuff there. Maybe we should just stash them there instead and then send Mercy after them. So we know where they are. Yeah, that works. All right, I turn to the elf lady and I say change of plans we think maybe it might be best if you staying right here for now and then we'll come get you but you know where the Rope is off make a persuasion. Check me, Ur. Very bad, you know, you say one minute you want us to get away you want us to try and find a place where only the bird can find us and then you want us to wash up on top of this god-forsaken Cliff. What? Okay, what are we supposed to do? I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just suggesting that you go there you can do what you what you want to drop off the cliff. Go ahead. There's some dogs down there. They'll eat you. Yeah, I didn't mean any offense. We just I'm a little stressed right now. Okay, wait, I was kidnapped out of my home today. Yep, and we're about to go down to get more people off as this is going on. I hold up my hand as I'm staring down and when I hear people notice that I I've done this in order to get them to stop I turn in both dead and I points there's one more that we need to rest in find a safe place either nearby here or head towards the room. That's up to you when we had the rescue. You go ahead and make persuasion. Check Belmar 11. The chick with the undercut she kind of steps up and next to the the half-elf and she puts a hand on her kind of a steadying hand like a an almost a liquid familiar hand and she just looks at you and she says good luck go get him and she kind of pulls everybody away and for the brush, hopefully, they start to talk. Yeah, they go this way, but you can see they're deliberating, but they they do move. Into the brush and they're going to make sure you get my voice cracking on the podcast man. You gotta be em up and up and up and up. All right. Going to hunker down. There's five of them now and you guys are not with them or 5:18 that helps eight and finally fifteen four or five. One of them was a 20. Oh, you're right. One more natural. Okay. I didn't see that one. Hold on for plus 5 plus 18 plus 8 plus 28 saat / 5. All right, so they're stealth roll. Their group sales are all averages out to exactly eleven. Okay, so as they hunker down all of you can still see them but except for us cuz you don't have darkvision, but they are not just like obvious to anybody. Okay. So what do you guys want to do? I look to Palmar right? We talked about using minor illusion with Badger drugs. That might be the best way to do it for now home if I stand off to the side and create that that minor illusion, but mere how can you get on? Can you get up onto the crops? Well, I mean I was going to cross I have a question can a Drake's see us? If we go to earliest is you have no way of knowing that like I'm asking Falmer if you think okay educated guess Thursday. We may be visible. All right, make perception checks all of you plus one. Oh, Jesus have to remember all this stuff has happened simultaneously so mirror it's hard for you to see because of the debris The Rocks the vegetation is kind of tall. It's hard for you to see out this far but odds and Falmouth. Are you watch as one of the heavily armored men around the 10th comes back to the middle of the the camp here near the fire and looks around almost like he's looking for something. He looks around a couple of times and turns and points up toward the northern guard Tower. He makes his way back to the tent and you watch as the Drakes and armored people around the tent seemed to sort of like tighten up their formation around the home and then you both watch as two figures come out of the tent you recognize one as sign Wrath. The other is a woman with with short dark hair and chainmail and purple purple cloak and they move toward the cave and not appear inside the drapes near the cave also tighten up pulling back towards the cave a couple of them disappear inside the cave. Okay off to I will have relayed that to mirror and I say if we're going to act it should be now. Do we need to get down this Cliff face though? Yes, we do. Some are. How far away can you cast your illusion? Can you cast it from the top of this Cliff No, I can't I need 30 feet. So I point to a spot that's about about their thoughts about what forty feet from Laotian 30 30 30 feet. Okay. It's kind of Midway the midway between him and the cliff off. Okay. So that's where I'll stand Can U Boro all the way to where I I will be standing I can borrow from the face of the cliff all the way to our latest and it is it'll just take a little while maybe 5 minutes. Why don't you start from where I'll be standing and end just below him. Okay, would you like me to page him before or after? You want to pop in a healing potion? Not yet. Well, I can heal him from a long distance. If he's in contrast, it's quieter though. Yeah, that's true. We need mirror there to pick the locks with her maintained ability first mirror. How close do you have to be to pick the lock off him even with nation upon him. Well, I mean I can do that, but I'm going to try to sneak up and get it may chain has a thirty-foot range it does but not trying to teach, you know, it had last one minute and have to keep casting it and then I had to sand and then only got so much fan. So we need to go down there now though. Okay, I have some rope. Yeah. I try out the that's easy enough at this point like you're so focused on what you're doing. You definitely find a place to tie the rope off. No problem. All right, let's climb down and we need to roll the Ravel. With the Rope. Yeah, the DC is going to be really low though. It's just an Athletics check. Well, you can do athletics or acrobatics whichever is better acrobatics for me. You all make it the DC was ten so you all make it down. I need stealth rolls 14. 24. Okay good shape so far. How far can we look forward to another cell phone you can get all the way to him before you need to roll again. Okay. So click on the very edge here to kind of talk you through it. I'm going to crawl it's close to the ground as I can cuz I'm pretty low. This is brush right here. So I'm hanging out in here. And then I'm going to just sort of crawl up on the X if you would be pulling up the picture of him on the extra. I'm going to need to roll perception to see exactly how it looks here. First off his feet bound as you approach know his feet are not bound Thursday. It's pretty clear that he was just standing on the ground until they started to raise this thing up a little bit higher now, he's standing tiptoe his odds digging while I'm doing all yes. I am. I'm going to go ahead and pop in the badger form and start borrowing a tunnel underground from right next to soundbar. Okay. Okay. So I'm looking at this x do you need me to roll perception? No. No, you're you're okay next year. I mean you can you can make an investigation check depending on what you're trying to find out. Okay. I'm looking for where the locks are. Okay where I can pick and how how the best thing. It looks like from this picture. I don't see any locks right but I didn't see where I could go and off with these bolts and sort of like use some leverage if it all possible to like move them around or obviously the the change going down into the X. I'm going to look on the bottom of the ex which I can't see from this picture to see how the chains are fast. And so we might just be able to be full amount even though you have so the picture is is helpful, but those manacles around his wrists do have locks. They do appear to be fairly simple locks locks that you'll be able to pick. All right, so I pull up I crawl up on the right-hand side of them or dead. On the side too close to what I can see here be his left hand. Okay, and then I cast Mayo Chandler Jermaine from Newmarket on my cell. It's a cantrip. Okay, that's fine Park. Yeah, I agree. So I've cast Mage hand Ledger Main and mere make a make another stealth role as you're climbing up on this thing 30 great. So the reason why D&D Beyond is being a little difficult right now is there's kind of nothing for you to do with me translate ther is no mechanical component. You don't have to make a roll your Mage hand is up now. And so you can do whatever you want with that may change you want to pick one lock and simultaneously took the other with your maintain, right? Yep. I'm going to reach into my own hand pull out my lock picks out of the back. That would be the closest in size from the other lock. Yep hand it to the Mage Hancock. Okay rock the mood. She had to float over and then at the same time that I am turning my pics, it's turning it's picks in the exact same way. Okay. So how do you want me to roll? So I need you to go ahead and Page charity check. So this is this is a DEX check but it's with your thieves tools. I don't know if you have expertise. I believe you may have expertise with your name stools, but I'm not sure. And do my rolling a saving throw or imagine rolling up at the top. You're you're rolling a D20 your cat in proficiency and dexterity and you may be doubling your proficiency. Just hang on 1 second. I'll check for you. It's next 33 proficiencies do so looking at your expertise that you chose you chose to stealth an investigation. You do not have expertise. So you're only twenty and adding five. Okay twenty-two. So the the one that you're picking manually you start working with your you I guess you you take your glove off and what does that look like? You you're couple of your fingers kind of I pop open my pinky finger and there's like a little Barrel in it and it's got four small pics. I hand one of the pics to the Mage hand which by the way, it feels awful and then I like just sort of wait till it goes over towards going to go and then I leaned in and as I'm turning it also turns kind of simultaneously in secret. Yep, and I picked my log Yep, so go ahead and roll for your Mage hand. Now your may change is doing the same thing you're doing it might need to do it. Again. That's a 14. Yeah. So you realize as your Mage hand is doing this your name exactly what you're doing, but just as yours comes open, you kind of glanced over expecting the same thing to have happened over there and you realize because of the way that these manacles are dead ranged. It's mirrored. So then I'll just roll this that doing the opposite direction. Can I you can make it with Advantage this time because you realize that it was mirrored. Absolutely. Yep. So you're you you open one very easily the other one. You're May Chan takes a moment, but it clicks and as as it lets go like his armor. I'm holding. I'm holding him with my body to it and his other arm just Falls and as as his weight comes you realize he does have a couple of ropes around his abdomen and that is the only reason why he is not just and taking you to the ground right now is Badger Oz underneath at this point. We're Sam are just off to the side, but I thought if I as I see him start to what's your movements to rush over but still maintaining stuff twenty feet, right, but you can - 40 feet. You're moving from the cliff. Yeah. Yeah, totally it would take you about 15 seconds to burrow from the cliff to the X so you can absolutely pop-up page. Are what are you doing? What did you say you're doing? As soon as I saw that the keys in I would have rushed over cellphone still. I need you to make a stealth check with disadvantage because you're rushing with disadvantaged. Yep. Is that is that including the plus 10? Yeah. Okay. Well the freaking people looking that way just roll the natural 1000. So you recognize fell Mars you get close and he just he is conscious. He's very weak. There is a couple of Loops of rope that are holding his abdomen to the execs as he falls forward and mirror is holding on for dear life. I'm like holding him kind of up so that whenever he falls he doesn't man like yeah, like hugging him like a monkey. Okay? Okay as this happens You guys hear what sounds like the Cry of like a great bird of prey it's not super loud or anything, but it is an odd sound like a cross the camp make perception check all of you one just regular perception know you still have Advantage cuz you have your goggles 18 off. Okay, so I got not to 19th and then 11:00 ours. You just popped up your Badger. I mean you heard it but you don't really notice things like a person would right now everybody nearby life seems to be sort of like holding their position the people around the tent are holding their position that people near the camp are holding their position. And as you age of scan out into the camp, you don't really see anything that seems like people are responding to this to this sound right, but you also can't see like everything from where you are so bad your eyes popped up yet. Yes. Yeah. I see everybody's their thoughts. Are you standing do I see found? We're standing next to listen or holding. Like I said, it's working to get him off the X. I'm going to go ahead and bomb up the summer Court. I can do that in Badger form right off. Just in case I'm going to cover Lance's mouth so he doesn't yell. Okay. All right, six plus one temporary employee, right? Okay. So you do see some Rejuvenation come into His form. He looks a bit more color in his cheeks and he looks up he sees you mirror and he actually kind of like life is over and smiles at you gives you like a little peck on the cheek. Merry way Belmar. He's like ain't your softness or ours? Give me the fuck out of here. Let's go let's show I just point down at the the whole and I go at this. I'm going to I'm going to Bow politely and then start tunneling South. Okay, like back through the same hole or yes back through the same old. Okay, so he climbs in and he starts to follow you. It's this difficult for for all of you. You're going to move at like half speed. Okay, so he gets in are you guys doing anything else? I'm going to point back towards the whole. Okay. So, I'm I'm moving backward slowly like keeping an eye on the camp and maintain I'm going to cast minor illusion over the whole so that it does not look like there is a home at all. Okay as I back away, okay, and you're not going underground. No, I'm not going underground. I'm going to stay stealth. Okay, make another stealth roll for me. 26. Okay mere are you underground or you with Falmer? No, I am not. I am going to look at Falmer and say you're friends with Oz he's safe. We need to go see if we can't help she can't help. I'm going to go see what weeks doing. Okay, I'm really worried about that noise. I need to make sure that lesson gets out of here. I am I understand. I'm going to be wrong there. Okay for you go. I'll drop I'll drop the Rope next to the cave. Okay? Perfect. Thank you. Okay, Oz and layoffs in our underground. Okay found more you're moving along on top of the ground mirror. You're starting to move toward where you know wreak to be correct? I don't know if guy off and then are there yet or anything what happened? I understand. So mere just hold off for a second. Don't move too much further. Okay? Okay. I'll stay right here. Go ahead and make a stealth roll for me mirror. So Twenty-One right off the 10. Yep. Yep. All right. So Oz and falma. Are you guys pop-up go to where you are when you pop up and I'll position layoffs. And what about the face? Okay, so about here. All right. So we pop out and there's a rope waiting for us. Yeah, there is okay lay-offs and looks at you. He says I know if I've got this in me my fucking tall. As you go up first, I'll go up after and will help pull him up. I can I can also heal him. What would that help you off last question. I have to pop. I'm in human form at this point too. I popped out. Yeah human referable. Well, I still have my disguise right off of less than an hour. Yes. Yeah, so you can pop out and still be in Disguise. He says yeah. I mean if you can freshen me up a chick that that will definitely help. Okay. I'll lay a hand on him and give him the touch one cure wounds. Okay, ten ten ten more He says okay. Yeah, I mean I reckon I can make it work. Let's give it a royal and he leans in and grabs the rope and he starts to pull himself up. So it'll be in athletics role for him off. Yeah, you see him you see him sort of start to struggle. Actually, he's kind of slipping. It just doesn't seem strong enough. He's going to need help. I'm going to go behind him and I can go first name. So you want to go up first. Yeah, so I can help make your it's you've got a rope so it can be Athletics or acrobatics either one month. Eleventh DEC standstill and then he'll make his role with Advantage now and he rolled a 10 so he is able to make it up and then film are what are you doing on climate? So you guys make it up as you get up there and you look around you see that the the people are still hunkered down in the birth where you left them. Do I hear them? I can't see you guys now, you're oh, yeah, that's right. You don't have darkvision. Never mind, you know going to have to hold on the phone more from here. Oh, okay. So lay off up here passive perception. You guys would see it to okay. So you guys are going to chill right there mere I need I need a bunch of stealth rolls. How many of you want I need like 5 + 7 + 10 + 17 to all those yeah. Yeah, assuming that you hug her face. It takes your second, but you make it to the cave. All right, you just popped me over there. Yeah, who those Cobalts Mimi? Nope. They never saw you cuz you are so freaking stealthy. Okay, Vin and guy you see reek take this huge cut at this thing and delivering just a grievous strike. You hear this crazy scream Greek go ahead and roll initiative. Van and guy what do you want to do guy will immediately draw both shatterspike in his battle axe and just charge. Okay 12:00 on the initiative. Behind them as well. Okay, so you guys can roll initiative to since you're going in since you're just going straight in Greek you are raging remember that? Yep. Okay. So reek you deliver that first blow. Okay. And as you do this kobold the guy with the big Shield slipped the shield on his arm and starts to move towards you. That's all he can do guy. It's your turn. What do you want to do. I will if I used a she'll take my whole turn. Correct? Yes, but I can it's double movement speed. Yeah, correct. So I believed I can get there. I will Dash and that will be the whole turn. Okay. Next up is reek reek. What would you like to do with the creature that I hit before still alive? It is. I'm going to take another swing. Excuse me, another swing. Okay, 17 to hit let's see that will hit go ahead and roll damage 12 damage to a points of damage as you as you hit it one of the five heads lashes out and attacks you with its reaction it lashes out and it tries to bite at you said that's going to be twenty-two to hit that heads. Okay. So then take five points of piercing damage reduced it to because your raging. Okay. So then this kobold here also puts its shield on and we'll move down. To the other side of your week and then it will be Mercy Stern Mercy. What would you like to do? See this way up? It's annoying. That's what she's going to do. Okay, so then that leaves us with this crazy five-headed thing. He looks at you reek and you notice it's like dead. There's like real hurt in these eyes takes a deep breath. I need to make a dexterity saving throw week 8 volts take 16 points of poison damage as she steps this way and blast a a cloud of poison damage in your direction. And then it'll be finished turn then you're up. What do you want to do? I'll get Mercy on a second. I can see them right? Yes. There's like some well, yeah, there's there's some light. I mean you're looking through several places this I think goes all the way to the ceiling if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, so but yeah, if you can see them on the map you can see them I can see them on the map. Okay, so I am going to yeah, I have a cast guiding bolt. Okay on this app. Okay. Five headed freaky thing. Yeah, the five had a freaky thing. Mr. Lumps. I think mr. Lumps that is a 17 on mr. Lumps that will hit go ahead and roll damage. 16 16 points of damage, okay, rating and damage and you notice wreak this thing standing here in front of you is glowing now the next thing they attacked well the next attack roll against this enemy will have Advantage because of guiding as that slams into him. You hear the dragon Shields. They start to change Bas Bas Bas Bas Bas Bas and the the five headed thing actually shrieks out. I mean young scum slay these Intruders At that point three kobolds stream out from behind this cave bacon. And then three more stream out here off the ones that come out from behind the cave bake and two of them are going to make attacks at reek with their like slingshots. Let's see that name is 18 to hit reek ahead. And then the second one misses take three points of bludgeoning damage Jetflicks stone at you with a slingshot reduced to one. So then the Dragon shield this Dragon shield is going to attack you with a spear. It's going to make two attacks first attack is going to be 12 to hit so that mrs. Second attack is a natural one so mrs. Oh wait, I should be making these with Advantage. So first attack misses second attack also misses off. All right, so gai, it's your turn. You notice as these Cobalts are all chanting bus bars. They all seem to be sort of like Interfaith a little bit. They seem strengthened by this chant. Okay, so I think I can make it to you get their neither one bothers. The only one this is taken any damage. Yes, correct. Wow. Okay. Well for now, I'll go there and I'm going to attempt to attack this guy just to got to reached right? Okay, Thursday and I will attempt to do it with shatterspike first three clear this one here for this one here to the that one interesting. Got you down and hit the Chatters like eighteen that definitely hits go ahead and roll your damage for shatterspike 11 11 points of damage. Okay, so it's gone. All right, then hit him with the battle act Eighteen Again that hit throw your damage and he has taken damage now. So colossal Slayer is in play dead. 17 travel 17 points of damage. Wow. All right. Okay. All right. So then it'll be reached turn right. I'm taking another swing at the 500 freak. All right. Listen Advantage right you have advantage. 17 to hit. Okay, that will definitely hit as you hit it it's going to go ahead and use another reaction. And yes, it has already used to rejection but it has more to attack you again with a bite that mrs. Go ahead 19 points of damage 19 points of damage. Okay. It is looking pretty rough pretty rough. So then this Dragon shield will turn he's going to make two attacks against you as well wreak the first one will miss. He's attacking with Advantage missing. The second one will also miss because I can't hit anybody with anything. I love you. All right Mercy, it's your turn. All right, so just to be clear can Mercy cast spells that are not touch spells know the the benefit is that you can cast touching spells and you can touch your target with Mercy, but but she can't cast stuff that it's not touched, correct. Okay, then she is going to just stay with me cuz that is safe. Okay baz gets her breath back. I need dexterity saved from guy and and that Cobalt back there behind you Cobalt rolled the natural 1021 18 18. Okay. So you guys both save it's acid again. So that's going to be 16 points off acid damage reduced to 8 because you guys saved this kobolds is killed immediately. Okay. Fan, it's your turn. All right. I try to cast spiritual weapon. I don't think it worked out. There we go. There it is. It showed up. Maybe it's just lagging real bad. Okay, so I can have it off and sixty feet. Yeah, you can put it anywhere you want here? Okay, and I'm going to actually attack this guy. Okay, that's her. Okay, go ahead and make your own neck 17 + 5 that definitely hit throw your damage seven seven points of damage. Okay, and I know that that bonus action, correct? Could I? Prepare a spell for Mercy to use on mursi's turn. Yes, you can do that. All right, I want to prepare cure wounds at first level. Okay former since used on her turn. Okay, that's perfect. All right. So at this point at the end of the round disco Bole back here behind runs around behind the altar spins up a sling at you reek. That'll miss this Cobalt comes down and attacks you guy. That's seriously. I'm rolling like single digits over and over and over. Fin to Cobalts will make attacks against you with Advantage the first one or the second. The first one is supposed to hit 16 to hit that helps that hit. Okay. So you take seven points of piercing damage the second one with Advantage wrong a that's a 18 on the dice. So take nine more points of piercing damage. The third one will attack you as a straight role and that's only going to be a 15. So the third one will miss you and then at that point mere please roll initiative. As you come on the scene, you look inside the cave. You see your friends engaged in battle with a bunch of kobolds + 3. Okay. So 20. Yeah. All right. So then basically you're going to show up and act immediately. All right, so I'm going to dash in I'm going to draw my bow. Okay, and shoot the kobold that I see one of the dark but I'm going to shoot the one that's right behind guy with a magic era. Okay. It's a magic area. So it's plus one. I'm going to move in a little bit. Okay. I see more of these fuckers. Okay. I'm not shooting the ones that are in front of me. I'm shooting the one behind guys still right understood. Did you do see Finn surrounded though by 3. We're is she right here? Oh shit. Okay, then I'm going to shoot that one right there. That's right behind fin. Thank you for telling me. I would never have seen it it just cuz I I was absorbed by the way. The light was okay. Did it work? I did well twenty years so you can you can go ahead and roll your sneak attacks. So that's going to be a shitload of damage. Holyshit, Jeanette like Pierce through a few of them. I'm pretty sure it's going to be 66. Why not? 69 6 D 600. I really thought he said 66 one moment. I'm really sorry. Here's five and then I'll roll one. Okay, and that that that's 5 in the morning and then plus three, I believe so nineteen. Yeah, this kobold here is totally dead. Okay, then I guess I'll try for a second one if that's all right. You can't do that. Oh, I thought that you you can't make two attacks with a short 500 off second. I'm sorry. Yeah, you can't do that yet. You got it. Well actually rogue's never get extra attack. You could throw two daggers if you had to be daggers out, but you you said you wanted a dash, but then you didn't dead. Drew your bow, I'm really sorry. You can't action you can't bonus action a second attack, so, nope. We're good. Okay, good. I'm just going to lay in wait. Okay, cool. So then the Dragon shield which one is dead. Yeah. All right, so he is again staying put making an attack against reek with advantage. That's to 5 guy. It's your turn off. Oh, okay, the spiritual weapon from Vin is that occupying a space that guy can know you can stand in the same space as the spiritual weapon. Okay, so I will move one two three spaces to the same space. So that is 15 feet movements as you go around and round to get their money. Yeah here go here's yeah. So yeah three spaces. Yeah. Yeah around to the right. Yes, and I will attack box with Iraq despite that shatters nineteen that definitely hits go ahead and roll your damage as you as you attack with a reaction Basel last shot at you with one of her head. That's a 22 to hit you. Oh, yeah. So you take seven points of piercing damage and then go ahead and roll your damage here off 15 damage 15 points of damage. All right guy, how do you want to do this. Yeah. All of the heads are currently attached. Yes. Yes, so he has both drawn the battle axe and cheddar Spike and like kind of like using the battle axes like a way to judge off that goes a balancing Point Hills a battle-ax in front and then slashes and cuts off all five heads. Okay, go ahead and fill and drain as you do as they come through life the outside Head Start to fall away and and as they just that one head in the middle, that seems the most normal Cries Out mistress save me know please and I'm a guy and wreak to make dexterity saving throat nineteen 10:10. Okay? Okay and then gosh Cobalts have to make them too. That's a six that's a seven and that's a 12 which will save so this this one down to the South saved. So take 23 points a piercing damage wreak you have it to 12 points of piercing damage because your raging guy you have it to 12 because you saved this Cobalt Dragon shield dies because he failed his save this Cobalt Dragon shield takes twenty three points of piercing damage this Cobalt Dragon shield dies because he's just a regular kobold and that's way more Health than he will ever have in his life. Okay, I'm yes. I'm down. But okay Relentless endurance. I'm at one hit point. Okay? Okay. So you watch a streak is just succumbs to the brunt of the blast of this like debris Bas just explodes spring viscera and shards of glass across the room. The floor is just covered in blood and bone chips heads lie strewn across the altar the kobolds look around in shock. They all just start to rage and freaked out guy. Is there anything else you can do on your turn? Yes, I want to move I have enough food to see to move. Can I tell me if I can stand well either here or here to attack this Shield food off. So I'm going to say the way you narrated your success. You would still technically have your bonus action, but the space is pray really blocked. I don't think you can get through there. Okay? Well, can I stay on top of where Bob's was? Yeah, you do that. You can stand over bosses body and make another attack. That's fine. Yeah, I'll tap that Shield dude then with the battle at okay metal twenty. Oh, dude. All right, go ahead and roll your damage. And you're you're well you already did Colossus Slayer against baz. Right, right. Yep, so you can't do it again. That's the one set to move. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it may be it may be that the same monster can't take it more than once per turn actually either way. I think it's let me see so that's six and then so 8 a.m. Then 8:00 8:00, and then for eight more I'm going to give it to you. So we'll call that twenty will call that twenty months. It's looking pretty rough, but it's okay. Don't worry about it. Let's let's keep moving reek. It's your turn. What would you like to do? I'm going to use my action to disengage. Okay, and I'm going to move back this way into this corner. Okay, that's going to be my turn don't have a bit more movement. Okay, I'll go here. Okay, and then I will stop there. That's my turn. Okay, so then it would be this Cobalt Dragon Shields turn seeing that you are I mean, you're the one that came in and started attacking Ba's. So he is going to chase you guy it will keep track of opportunity will if you want it does my spiritual weapon know unfortunately, what do I roll for attack of opportunity? It's just a normal attack. Yep. It's just a normal attack Iraq. Like with shatterspike or just it's up to you. You can attack with either one. You have them both out. Yeah, twenty-five nice and then go ahead and Page Road damage. You will not have Colossus Slayer because he took it just a moment ago, right that'll be enough to bring him down. He doesn't make it to wreak he falls unconscious off. Look at rolling ten points of damage is enough to take him down. All right. So then that brings us to Mercy not to my friend. Oh God Cobalts around me. There's two Cobalts around you. All right. Do we have any healing potions around us? Like the people here? Did they have healing potions? I get mine to Mere No, I gave it back to you before you get and I gave you a hug breed. How is big on that? Cuz I didn't know it was going to talk about it. Dammit. All right. Okay, so I'm going to go ahead and I'll send Mercy her full travel speed which is 50 till 9 on reek and I will make a sleight-of-hand check me. Yep seven seven. So as Mercy takes off the Cobalts definitely notice. She takes off to fly away. They do not have advantage on this attack rolls, but they will make attack rolls against Mercy as she tries to fly know God. I can't even see them. You can't see the Cobalts right next to you know, I can cuz you don't have yard art. That's right. Well, what's Mercy's Armor class? Well, cuz I just wrote two threes. Hey goodness. So where she gets away? All right first is going to land on rate and she's going to use the Cure wounds that I had told her about or whatever a minute ago. Wait 10. He'll for 10 Drake. So reek Mercy comes practically from out of the darkness of the cave. Mercy comes flying up and lands on your shoulder. You feel that same invigorating force that that you felt the first time she landed on you as you heal for 10,000 points. Is that is that it is Mercy going to stay on reek. Okay. So then it's your turn fan. What would you like to do? All right, I going to move this. And I will attack that Cobalt. Okay, I swear y'all ever old so many nines. It's ridiculous. If you only knew okay, it's 9 plus package. So fourteen that hits roller damage six six six points. Okay. Yes, so this kobold is actually still standing. All right, and then I will I will cast toll the dead Okay off on that same Cobalt now, I was thinking on the two near me. Okay, it's only one feature. Yeah, just one so you just have to pick one. I can't see does it say that you have to be able to see the target? Yes, read the spell description it does. So since you since you can't see them. Yeah, you can't Target them. So I will get this guy. Okay, and that's a wisdom save correct? Yes. So this will be -2 to this role. All right, so that's a zero. So go ahead and roll your damage can't laugh and he's taking damage. So it's a d 2012. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I've ever owned it Rosie 12 so seven points of damage. All right, so that Cobalt will fall as you pull out your your shield and go ahead and and tap your Kong and that Cobalt just Falls over but nobody hears any sound. Is that it Finn or you just going to stay put there? Yeah, I mean, I don't know where the Cobalts are. So I'm just chill. So then these kobolds it's their turn. They're just going to sort of strafe around you and continue to feel like you making a text so they make their their attacks with Advantage. The first one is that's a 17 to hit you the second attack is another 17. Yeah two Seventeen. So you take two points of piercing damage and then four points of piercing damage seems that with baz falling these Cobalts have lost some of their spunk their Zeal and and their ability to hurt you so badly, so that's how many sorry it was two and four so six points of piercing damage total. Okay, and so then mirror that brings us around to the top and it's your turn. Okay, I'm going to use all my movement to come down to where this Cobalt is is write a button on top of thin. Okay bucks a month. So I am going to I'm going to I dropped my bow, okay and pull out my daggers. Okay, I do Thursday. Is that only you can only draw one dagger right now? Okay, then I'll draw one bagger. Yep, and then I will attack the one that is to that is right next to me. Okay, go ahead and enroll that um, I'm seeing sixteen to hit and that hits so roll you're damned, right? Yep, and you have sneak attack cuz it's definitely engaged with fan. There we go. Pink dagger. Yeah. Yes. Okay sweet. So 11 points of damage will be enough to go ahead and and bring down this kobold. Okay boss is all my movement. I can't get any closer. So that Cobalt is dead. And so you did all your movements you do still have a bonus action. You could Dash you could hire. Can I back in front of hair and like take the hit if he's willing you can position yourself there. Yeah for sure. Okay. That's what I'll do. Yeah. Okay cool guy. It is your turn off you like to do. okay, I Is it just that one Cobalt? That's a lie. Is that it as you look around the room, it looks to be the only threat that you see. Yep. Okay. I will. I'll move here. I will put shatterspike away. I'll drop my battle-axe take out my Longbow. Okay, and I will Target that one kobold just south of the mirror. Yeah for all you guys that can't see this map. I'm sorry. It's great. 14-14 will hit go ahead and roll your damage. Please just taking damage. It has not ten dommage. That is just what you need. That Cobalt will drop and as you as you look around the room, you see no further threats. Can I immediately go down and look into this little I don't know. There's an opening down here. I'm trying to find these dwarves. I would like to cast cure wounds on itself. Okay, go ahead and Enrique As you move to that room go ahead and make a perception change as you move into the room. You do see a couple of small cages against the wall a little bit more blood on the floor sixteen perception off. You see two small figures Inside. The Cage has blonde hair as you approach the heads rise up the eyes blank page that you are you okay are either of you hurt? Well, I don't I don't think so. I think we're all right. Okay, we're going to get you out of this place is fucking creepy. Yeah, it's fucking it's let's go. The cages are locked. I'll stick my head out like beer what what are the cages made out of? They are metal metal cages guy will pick up his battle-axe off the ground and I make it pop over here. We are also picked up her ex, but she was waiting for them to stop talking. I mean herb. Oh, okay, cool. All right. I'm going to pick these locks. Okay, just make a couple of chicks. I'm going to make my way that way also. Okay, as long as she's doing that DM. I'd actually like to head back and take a look at the altar. Ooh, that's terrible Okay, so What so one's a tan and one's a 12, right? Oh, yeah. Sorry. Those are actually those are those are both good enough to unlock these locks their very simple log reek As you move back to the altar make an investigation check. I would ever these barrels 20 Hey, so on the altar there are several candles a number of small like almost look like amulets. You're not exactly sure what they are. But you have seen the guys like Falmer and and Finn and odds. They've been talking about like, holy symbols Clara key type stuff. You don't recognize them. How how tall is the altar? It's very short. It's only a couple of feet tall also on the altar. There's there's a book that's open. You noticed the issue of the small bottles of lightning and one other small bottle with a pale blue liquid inside of it. Now. What were you going to ask Rican? I want to grab anything that's not wage currently burning and put it into my bag. Okay sure, and I quickly look through these barrels you can make it an investigation check. Plus seven, so they're they're sealed up you sort of Slash them around that sounds like there's liquid in there. You leaning give a sniff you smell like wine smells like it might be under vintage. Okay, and I also came over here when I was walking around and I found a hallway. Can I go back there? You can yep as you look around back there. It's very reminiscent of the things that you saw in the sunless Citadel small bedrolls just it's gross Cobalt sleep here. Okay, I'm done. Okay from them. Look around are the children that little door in kids still chilling down Amir unlock the cages and then you guys just walked away. Oh two of us are so no. I'm not I'm still down here. I'm going to look at the kids and I'm going to say let's get the hell out here. Okay, get out of this ages. Okay. I reached my hand out towards them to okay and with your help. They're able to kind of climb out of the cages. It's It's Tricky. They're they're in like apparently probably their their normal clothes, but they're looking pretty tattered. They it's an odd juxtaposition cuz they haven't been captive here long enough to be like, you know, haggardly looking prisoners or whatever but like they had sort of accepted their fate they're still wearing their like normal clothes and they're not really all that beating up or anything, but you can tell that they did not expect to like like get away. So they're very grateful. I'm going to tell him to be very quiet. Okay, they walk. Okay though. Yeah, they can walk there like a little cramped and they they like move toward each other and kind of huddle together and help each other walk. It's really cute. They do look like really young human children. But you remember that the the letter said they were actually adolescent dwarfs. So right they just look very small very small. Yep. So mirror go ahead and make an investigation role in a table for seven. Okay, so there is a map on the table swipe it there are some books and a couple of children's toys a small portion box. I would take all of those things. Okay and just step into my bag for now, okay. And then I'm going to walk over and the map to fit because I remember her saying something about Maps Okay, what else you guys want to do clocks chicken. I'm going to say guys. They're going to drop a row off at the mouth of the cave. Whenever they get up to it. We got layoffs and also you should take that healing potion. We don't know if you're going to go into a fight or bandwidth or something. Okay. Are you saying that who you saying that to you said it's week. Who is this? Somebody need it more than me. We both are fucked up man. I have eight years. I'm going to call hand to hand it to guy here. I bet I might be better off than you know, cuz I haven't used my I have chin hit point. Em. Yeah. We're all pretty messed up. Does anybody is anybody poisoned or anything? Cuz I have an elixir of Health. No, okay, and I do not have like a mass Shearer. Yeah, she okay. So first thing out the door, I believe I do have one suggestion of healing in my inventory. Okay. None of these barrels have healing anything around them as you looked around and you're making very quick investigation checks right now. It seems like food stuffs off. Okay. And one more question. Do you have any like is there any what's I didn't see him pick up anything. So I don't know I'll be like did any of you like pick up any cool potion something. Does anybody know anything about I have some here I'm going to share with a three bottles the two that have lightning in the one that I didn't know what was in it to keep the two lightning ones and I'll look at the new one. And can I like Roland? Not that I freaking know what I'm doing, but can I try anyway, maybe that after he leaves? And we're safe with the kids. But what if it's okay, that's fine. Let's go up here. Okay, so I'll go first so I'm going to use my potion of healing then okay before we head out, that'd be kind of a potion of healing. I have one. Yes, okay. Do you want it? Do you want this one? I have one too. Yeah, I do. I have one. I don't think I do your eye hand fin my promotion. I'll be okay if I take more damage, that's so sweet. I'm going to take it and I'm going to drink it and I'm going to say if she go down a hill my heels are stronger. So I need to stay up. It's more important that you stay up. I'm going to drink mine, too. Okay, I'm going to pick out here and see if there's anything going on. All right, I make my way towards the cave entrance. Okay, the we did the kids the twins are lost. Just about to say the twins are coming. Oh, no, that's terrible winds are following along. Is it Judy for store? Yes, Judy 4 + 2. Yep, 24 plus two guy looks back in the kit at the back and just keep up oral care of you run across the floor to guy. Finn's guy dissipates you guys content with everything that you did in here any anything else you want to do before you leave? No, but I am going to take this stick that's on the ground. Okay and prepare to maybe like light it on fire with this fire. That's right here. Okay speaking to burn off while I'm in the middle. I want to just cast detect magic and see if there's anything that pops where exactly are you standin stand here so I can see like down and I can see. Yep. So from where you're standing right now a few things Ping On like your group members you're too far from the alternator or the the people that you've just slain for them to register on your detect magic. Okay. Well, I'll get a little closer just cuz you want to make sure that So as you move a little closer, you do get a couple of small things one off of each of the Dragon Shields. All right, not the shield itself, but the birth of Israel. Yeah, I'll I'll go and I'll check it out. Okay, making investigation check see how quickly you do it 16-14 for how long it takes you a few moments. But as you fish around the the your spell sort of guides you and you do find upon one of the Cobalt Dragon Shields a small stone with blue runes carved into it. And then you look to the other again following your spell you find a another Stone that's not similar issue. Denticle. Did anybody least the boxed pause us asking you to very quiet dog? So no one did when I loot those guys. I'm going to see buzz and I'm going to walk over and I want to be like go. Okay, I should probably do this to be clear. There are no there are no pings coming off of boss as you as you rifle through quickly. You see no valuables. There's a holy symbol a very beautiful dagger. There's a there's like a mall leaning up against the altar that you never saw her wheeled. It's very crude. And then she also has a key on her belt you get a sense that it was probably to the cages that that mirror has already opened. Hey, I'll take the dagger and the key and the holy symbol, but I will not take them off. Okay. Guy looks back in notices that Finn is not there. Can you see here through the dark? Yeah, you're dark vision allows you to see her back at the altar. Okay. I'm going to tell the kids just stick with week and I'm going to go back cuz I would know that she can't see in the dark. Right right. Right. I I'm going to go back towards that direction. Okay. Thank you Mrs. Young gentleman. And Lady Lady one of the guy and girl. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I keep screwing it up. Yeah, we all we all are. And I rolled in like like investigate outside. Make sure nobody is like make a perception check. Yep. Plus what okay, thirteen, so those Cobalt that we're like right in front of the cave. They are not anymore. Okay, then I put my stick down at 9% off light fires option. Do I see any rope that's coming down from where Oz or more has dropped not at this point, but I am going to now jump back over to them and find out what they've been doing for the last three minutes off. All right. So foul Mar Oz Laotian you make your way up the cliff what's going on? Was Audrey there when I told me Ur that I was going to drop a rope. Yes. I heard you say that you did right? Do you have any extra on you? I don't know how how deep down the cliff is I have seen every lengths of fifty feet. Can you head over there while I talk to us in for a minute and gather up my own rope head over wear head over towards the mouth of the cave and start dropping a rope. I'll be there in a minute off. The one that Rick went into earlier. Well, I mean, yes, I can't go on my own and I can't see you can't see? Okay. So I'll just start Gathering up the Rope down. Then I'll need the others over not not too slowly but like still being stealthy. So you're going to get the prisoners. No, not the person I wouldn't mean by the other just jump in and we'll come back to the president's so you guys are just going to go straight over to the cave. Yes. All right. Yeah, let's have you guys make some stealth rolls with Advantage because nobody is paying attention to the top of the cliff on the south side of the Horseshoe right now. 1818 lay-offs and does not have the benefit of pass without Trace but he does have plus five to his stealth. He rolled in eight. So we got a 3018 and eight I think we're okay. Let's do that two more times 30 2:30 and a fifteen good shape one more time as we approached the the area above the cliff. No natural ones. We're we're in business. Yeah latest and rolled a two. So it's a seven you guys are literally carrying him as he likes stumbles along. He gets really close to the edge a couple of times salmar your sort of leading the way not really paying that much attention, but odds has a hand on layoffs and shoulder and keep him from falling over the side or making too much racket. You guys are able to make your way all the way over if you want to to head that. Well, I'll just put you guys at the top cuz you have to kind of go around some stuff home. So you guys are able to make your way basically all the way over there. Let's get everybody back back out here mirrors their see real fan and Murphy guy. Did you want to do anything else flute wise or did you just come back for me know I just came back. So you may stumble over and he dead kobold bodies. All right, so you guys are all just chilling outside the cave as as fell more and them are way back over. Let's have perception rolls from everybody that fought Boz Okay, 16317 Premier 19. Hey, so gai and Finn since you guys are kind of coming from further in and mirror is the one that has already said she's like outside looking around and watching for the Rope very soon within about 45 seconds to making your way outside mirror. You hear the slight thud to the right of the cave just past the fire. And as you look that way you see a rope tied another rope that leads high up the side of the cliff and that's where we're a little break.

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022 Is Your Marketing Better or Different?

Lochhead on Marketing

07:41 min | 1 year ago

022 Is Your Marketing Better or Different?

"Thanks for pressing play this Christopher Locke Ed and this is the marketing podcast better we are sponsored by our good friends at Oracle net sweet learn how to turbocharged free one hour growth review with an expert in your industry check out my friends at net every question every decision and every action checkout spunk s. p. now hey Ho let's go this three times CMO Godfather category design and a high school dropout all right there's this word differentiation originate shun is it really different or is it better and say differentiation let me tell you about our differentiator 's what really comes do a brainstorm with a group of people in in your in your Alpha Your Business Wall don't Adam don't say anything just say hey what our differentiator is what makes us different Dan ask people and be ruthless about this really different and what you're probably going to find out when you do this exercise is why does this matter it matters because different forces sumer world for generations is Pepsi Pepsi runs these idiot than Coke Pepsi's more refreshing than Coke more people in a blind taste test prefer with this better game whatever you're comparing yourself ultimately is the thing that you're giving Ackley this reason and the different conversation forces the choice yes if I say to you what do you feel like tonight thin crust pizza or deep knocked off of they want to be perceived as unique as distinct as hard that's what marketing is about it's about distinguishing yourself and when we get caught on TV is a better argument you want to be different you wanNA stand alone to you that different is the ultimate source of unfair better faster cheaper all right we would like to thank the Good L. Marketing people are reading on the Internet today for stories of inspiration about innovation amount and Palmar the founder and CEO positive marketing dear friend money to immutable laws of marketing by the Oh Jeez our reese and Jack Trout check get my grandpa checkout grumpy old each wherever you get legendary podcasts wherever you get legendary books and the thought I'll leave you with comes from Coco Chanel who said follow your different

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Channel One-Nine #6

Over the Road

07:59 min | 1 year ago

Channel One-Nine #6

"If you like road give sound opinions at try. Each week noted music critics. Jim Dear Goddess and Kat Review New Releases Discuss Classic albums and conduct exclusive interviews with artists across musical genres sound. Opinions is a space for music lovers fans and critics alike to share in the conversation. Sound opinions listen critically download sound opinions wherever you get your podcasts. Hey Todd deals again with overdrive magazine here to answer your questions. About trucking artem is calling from Janssen Texas the home of the Peterbilt factors since we opened up the phone lines a few months back. We've heard from a lot of you. Wanted to know the same thing how regular drivers health truckers be more courteous on high race so that we can all be won't say how can cars and trucks clicks in the road. How can we say on the road together? You want to know. Trucking listeners. Appreciate rules of the road that you really shave follow. What really gets under their skin. Things that are annoying or maybe dangerous for truckers. So we asked I think the biggest thing I'd like people to understand about trucking is that truck drivers need room to maneuver and well everyone. We talked to pretty much said the same thing. Just give him room. Don't cut in front of them and slam on your brakes. It takes a football field to stop trump. You WanNa Really WanNa pulled in front of me and stop on a dime so this channel. One nine special. I guess you could say it's driver's Ed Day. Highway Cutoff issue. Yeah this is exactly what I did this week with over five hundred drivers instance Chicago. We'll be in good hands. Meet your instructor. My Name's Gary. Books live in Central Illinois up. Thirty miles of vitamin BLOOMINGTON. Have Known Gary close to a decade at this point that just a few years ago. I took him run in his truck with him from where I live in Nashville up to the North West corner of Illinois. I'd already been writing about trucking for awhile by them. But that trip watching Gary in action and hearing his play by play commentary on the flow of vehicles around in it fundamentally changed the way I drive on the highway but really stuck with me as the importance of following distance. That is the space you leave between yourself and the vehicle in front of you know you're stopping distance and know that you need to be able to do it at a safe taste from highway speed. Your car can stop pretty quickly. Just a few seconds before an eighty thousand pound tractor trailer. It's much different pretty true that for every ten miles an hour it will take you a little bit more than one second to stop so it can take a truck seven to eight to nine seconds. Just stop at a highway speed and guess how far the truck will travel in that time. Seven hundred sheet and I know this from experience I've been caught with an emergency stop situation. Gary has actually put this to attest by program. He's GPS to drop virtual bread crumbs as he drives. I had a program in my truck tracked a breadcrumb every second and I was going forty five miles an hour. I hit my brakes as quick as I could. And it took me four point five seconds to stop that truck four hundred fifty feet. He also has a nice trick to make sure. He leaves enough space in front of his truck. I have a little sticker on my windshield and I pay seven hundred feet and data use sight line to keep that open space that I have to manage in front of my truck. Meaning if he can see a car below that sticker on the windshield he needs to back off and leave more space. No one else is going to manage that space in front of my truck and that's the most important space for me to be safe. Of course what Gary can't control is the other cars and trucks do around him. This is where the driver's Ed portion of the comes in. There's another trick Gary taught me. In retrospect seems obvious. But it's something that I've found few of my friends or family members ever do. It has to do with how you pass the truck. Everyone wants to drive faster than truck. They WANNA be in front. They can't be around the truck well but think about do. I really need to pass. And if we're GONNA pass try to avoid passing on the right side because that's where we have the most trouble seeing other vehicles and people that's the first part but so you've decided to pass you do on the left side like he said then what. Here's my suggestion. It's pretty simple when you get to the front of the truck when you're beside that front tire that's your tire. If you're going to change lanes to the right in front of the truck put your turn thing lawn to the right. Indicate the everyone around you. That's your intention precedes forward. Don't pull in right way pursuit forward when you can see the full front of the truck in your rear view mirror looking out the back window. You're about a hundred feet in front of a truck. Generally five slowly began to come over. Okay got that. Don't start to merge before you can at least see the whole truck in the rear view mirror speed in space. You have to be aware of those things and it's constant adjustment Gary. I'd never used this. Particular tactic signaling. Well before I actually changed lanes and the signaling is key. Because that's what tells the impatient driver on your back bumper to sit tight so they are not tempted to swing into the right lane too early to cut off the truck either bus. You can avoid another instance of the infuriating highway cutoff works in those truckers watching it. Play behind you well. I know they'll thank you one more thing. A couple of you asked about if a truck passes you flash your headlights when the trailer clears your front bumper. To let them know. They've got room to come back over key. Thing here is to actually turn the lights on in back-off vice versa. If it's nighttime just don't use those high beams. The Channel One nine specials feature of over the road from Radio Topiary and overdrive magazine. It's produced by Ian Costs in myself. Todd deals with support from Lacey Roberts. Palmar Hoffer and Julia Shapiro. Since we talked to Gary for this edition the owner operator has sold. His freightliner retired from the road but he still keeps a wheel to in the lane via one on one business. Coaching mentoring those new trucking or need of a fresh start. You can find more of his insights beyond the overdrive extra group blog where he's a regular contributor find overdrive online dot com thanks also to the truckers whose voices you heard the tough Tom. Kirk devry Jones Jason early one tag Schultz and sue. We see Paul will be back with you next week with his own personal hall of fame until then drive safe.

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Finding My Parents with Tim Dyson

OC Talk Radio

30:10 min | Last month

Finding My Parents with Tim Dyson

"Welcome to good bad about a jazz. You've ever had questions about the juror. Maybe a bit jaded your attitude doors religion. Oh you come to the right place. He was an honors philosophy student ordained a presbyterian minister planted three juergens fathered a prestigious university. But now now you just an aging curmudgeon who never quits asking the question. Why pose a doctor john. When i was growing up professional athletes were a little less professional than today tv cameras and interviews after the game often included. Hi mom and thanks to their parents for getting them to that success point well back then i found it a bit annoying where now i missed the innocence and authenticity of it. All having done this show for the past year. I've been surprised by how many of our guests end up talking about their parents and particularly when we get into deeper issues. My mother died shortly after. I turned three years old. My father died. When i was only twenty. Two and i felt handicapped in a way in life. I couldn't take my wife to be to meet my dad and it would showed her a lot about me. I love my dad. But his failings and flaws impacted may for years into the future in fact relieve and they still do. When a new baby comes into the world it's common for the adoring family and close friends to make comments about how they have physical attributes of the mother or the father. I find it ridiculous impossible to discern and as reliable as your daily horoscope but as life goes on often the genetic and character traits passed on from parent to child or undeniable parents. Teach us what we should be can model for us how to navigate this world with varying degrees of success. So what do you do when that thing called. Nuclear family betrays you. Dis gives you up for adoption. Turns to booze or just flakes in the myriad of other ways possible. What is it like to live life trying to fill out a form that. Ask your father's name and you don't know the answer. We've all seen the tv shows of adopted children becoming adults and going in search of their biological parents their gut wrenching or they emit heartwarming conclusions. With that are much rarer. Than i'm guessing is what's found on the editing room floor. So where would one go to find such stories well. Certainly jails and prisons would be a place to start. The reality is one would need to go. There even just listened to the people around you and they begin talking about their families. Strange and unique combinations of people betrayal and heartbreak lurked beneath the surface. So today we have a local business banker in orange county need a business loan. He's your man. He's a great father to to handsome teenage boys active in his church. So let's just open the phone line and ask him about family. Welcome to church hurts. An ten dyson at thank you for having tim. We're gonna be talking about family. But i'd like to start but just give us an elevator speech of your life today. What do you do kids that kind of thing. Well as a commercial banker for one of the big three banks in the world. I help small business. Owners achieve their goals Rather be through commercial real estate. Typical business banking merchant services payroll and i work out of my house like the rest of the world right now recording team but I visit my clients Sometimes and look forward to getting back out there to see him again. I'm a father of two teenage boys. they're athletes. And i just enjoy that time with them. Slow if you would. Your stories are so amazing and a lot of ways but there is one fact that i have a hard time getting my brain around would you. Would you tell me how many children your grandmother had so. My grandmother had twenty three children Eighteen of them lived and a small little town in southern maryland near the naval base and she had a big family and lot of aunts and uncles and cousins. And and so on so and you can't name them all. You can't name all your aunts and uncles on top of your head kanye. Oh no way. I couldn't i couldn't but they could you know their siblings can do that. Kinda cool how many. What did your earliest memories of family. Your childhood home what. What kind of thing comes to your mind. When you think of your earliest earliest thoughts i would. I would definitely say you know you know meals. Were always great at my my grandmother's because we eytan ships but those were times that i actually got to see my biological mother. Aunts and uncles. That will come into town. I would say those are. Those are the earliest memories. That i that i have a family and i didn't really have I didn't start out at my grandmother's house. I started out with a family before that that were just a nice family that took me in when my mother gave me up. My grandmother eventually took me in because they were moving to california and she wanted me to stay with the family to your knowledge from a youngest age. You're kinda thrown into the foster care system in maryland right. Yeah from three years old on. Sometimes you'd come back to your grandmother's From what you tell me it was kind of like. You don't know how many families were with or do you. I was told. I was with one family from birth till age. Three then my grandmother's after that and then from there Juvenile hall and foster homes will tell me about this because this is just kind of makes me squirm but you know. I grew up hearing all the time. Spare the rod spoil the child Knob because my parents were particularly religious simply because everybody said that when they had the excuse and we had a fraternity paddle in our home. And sometimes i'd get a wooden spoon but your your grandmother was even a little bit more old school than that wasn't to see. Oh yeah oh yeah so growing up. I don't know if you've ever seen the bill cosby comedy. That talked about there would be beatings tonight. and pretty regularly i would say daily we would Get beaten for whatever reasons for sometimes just being kids but switches anything that she could get her hand on Rolling penn broomstick shoe. You know that's a common one but Yeah was very common practice and so one night. I'm told you told me you were locked in your room. And actually they had a latch on the outside of the room so they can lock you in. You just decided you'd had enough. Tell me about the night. how old were you. I was ten years old I had gotten beaten that With a broomstick that had a hole in my back and You know we were locked in rooms every night and that night i knew how to get out. You know. he's up piece of paper and excited and get out of there but I did run away that night. The first place thought of to go to the hospital. So i went ten miles Ran walk sola bike that chased by bats and dogs all the way but i made it to the hospital and was scared because i didn't want my grandmother to get in trouble but i wanted to be fixed. You know with this whole my back. But i walked in. I was scared and i ran out of there and went to the social services office where my Social worker wayne guy was and They took me in Got probably around sixty six in the morning and they took me in that meeting close mute and eventually took me back to my grandmother's so you're back at your grandmothers and i don't think anybody's going to be surprised that you started acting out a little bit and The un ended up in juvie juvie. And how did you get there again. Yeah i did rebel quite a bit. started just leaving the house and run with the wrong crowds and You know steals to make money so close or what have you and one night. I was driving a friend's fiero. And i didn't know how to drive and i jumped curve and police officers right behind me. And they took me to take me jail. And i ended up in juvenile hall off and on for a year year and a half driving at what age. What age were you. Tim probably eleven eleven about eleven or twelve and Juvenile hall was no no player. Playground bunch of Gang members So you had to fight pretty often to survive fight for your food. Fight to protect yourself in the bathroom and showers and Yeah no no real picnic man. I mean your you know. Your story is pretty dark At this point it's not a lot of bright lights and laughter but some good news came for you when you were in juvie. And you're going to get out. You had an option. I don't know if you had an option. But they they send you to group home. What's a group home. tell me about rudy and jamie okay So the option was to They gave me an option which was either to go back home to my family's or go to a group home. I chose the group home. And the group home was ran by jamie and rudy palmar palmer who both deceased now but fantastic people christian folks that had about eleven boys in the home from all over you know maryland one of the rules at jamie rudy palmer. House was that in order to stay. There is that you had to go to church but we went to a small church and a high school. That was probably ten fifteen miles away. Well with that little bit of good news let me just take a break for a moment and say That i worked for standing stone which is a ministry that really helps the frontline workers in church ministry and confront some difficult issues. That we talk about here. Church hurts in. If you chance. Would you come visit Us and if you'd consider even supporting us just go to church hurts and dot org and And you can find that half hour and more about what we do on this show As well as look back at some of our other shows today as we talk about family you might wanna check out the show. We did with pr and talked about Fathers and and that's affect on people in the church and outside the church but with that tim. Let's pick up so here. You are about what age you thinking that you're being dragged with ten other kids who've been in trouble with a lot to write. This was their peers. Not all in trouble with the law. They just didn't have their families. Were drunks or drug addict. Serve you know nobody could care for him. So i'm probably about Thirteen thirteen and a half. Maybe when i first went there and they take you into this church Was it a black church. White chertoff elected so in that town. primarily It was predominantly Caucasian there were pockets of african americans And the church was all caucasian. There was probably four or five boys in the group home that were african american and caucasian. And so i'm told you you kids and you got you found a way to get out of church. Thirteen years old. How did you get out of the alba. Going to the church service. Well we will file in and we would sit pretty close to the stage and this pastor was so boring You know. They said they needed help. They would make announcements He's talking about things like sanctification at thirteen. Fourteen note that means so. They said that we need volunteers. And the kids room. And i said heck up get me out of here. I'll go in there and try to give them love that. I didn't receive as a kid. This went on for how long a couple years so the group home the the state of at least the state of maryland. Their goal is always to get you back to your biological family within a year. So i was in a group home for about a year And then you know. I knew time was coming for me to go and begin to rebel against so ended up. You ended up in another foster home town. Tell me about what was that like now. You're going from kind of at least a loving group home but you have to leave. 'cause you're actually too good so you end up in this in this new home and they have a couple of kids you were within the nursery from those early days. Who were they yeah. Yeah so One of the kids the little boys names. Johnny and his sister name was kate and for some reason. I just gravitated to them. They were just you know. We look forward to seeing each other every sunday. And i believe that. The the director of the group home had talked to the pastor the church and said hey this guy you know. He's about to leave and he doesn't really want to go. And the pastor talk to his wife and they came to the group home to visit me on christmas they brought me lands and tie and a shirt. I still have today and They decided to take me live with them. And so that was pretty exciting for me because again. I got another another fresh start. Tell me about the first week in the home because here you are in this pastor's home now. What happened with the race issue. I mean was that a clash of cultures. What happened culturally wise. You know i had been in the group home before. So i've been around caucasian folks My grandmother was a matriarch of the city where we live and i. I was pretty comfortable with caucasian folks. And so you know living in the house was a little bit different the first week my mom by foster mom. I call her mom now. You took me to the grocery store to find out the things that i would like to eat in. The first thing that i bought was hot sauce. And then i noticed her eating raw hamburger meat in that freaked me out and that was a little different of that was a definite Different clash of cultures. There for me so tell me Everything didn't just become your life just straightened out. I mean the came knocking one day. What what happened with that One of my one of my good friends Well yeah we went to spring break together but in front of a seven eleven. I sucked him out and I figured i'd just leave and go home and i did. And the police came knocking So my my mom and dad got to deal with that as their first experience in all caucasian neighborhood. You never saw the cops but they did that day. And i hear your new dad that somehow you couldn't figure out why but he. He seemed to have a plan for your life. Which told you some. He must care about me if he has his plan. And you didn't understand it. What was that plan. Well all my life. I had had you know people that said they care about me and treated me in in bad ways and it was never consistent but the one consistent thing that i had next to jamie and rudy being in the gulf and the group home was living in the pastor's house you know and and his wife and you know. They made sure that i went to school. They made sure that. I did well in school. And i didn't initially until you know. Dad fought and fought and fought and fought to get me moved up to honors and ap classes. And i used them all. You know. I remember my graduation from high school. I didn't wanna go anywhere you know. It was an accomplishment. That i never thought we've had that i'd have and you know my dad and i went to mcdonald's he didn't give me anything In terms of great wisdom other than that day he said this is the first step An embedded college in my brain. So what other things would anything else apart of the part of the plan Surprise to I just didn't the consistency of checking. I tell my kids now you know. I inspect what i expect. You know. so you know education was was important. It was a key to to open as many doors. One of the things you know dad would say like you get many things on your plate as you can and that way you can choose from you know whatever it is that you'd like But if you don't have anything on your plate you don't have any options so you know that was something that really stuck with me as well kennedy. Just the transition a little bit in terms of wisdom. You might have the for so many people who've been adopted or who have mixed family Confused family background like this struggle even into adulthood. You told me you kept your clothes in a garbage bag. Even when you moved into that foster home for year you were just waiting to be turned over again and then soon you were an adult you know what kind of what kind issues did you still take on into adulthood still having those questions about family. Abandonment was you know a big concern. But i didn't realize it then until adulthood you know i felt like people said they loved you but they really didn't show it So yeah i did live in Garbage bags Even at my new mom and dad's house For a year. I just figured that. After a year i'd move on so in my adulthood abandonment. You know i would get into relationships. Do something stupid as often did as a kid you get abandoned in repeat the cycle over and over again which led to trying to numb that pain with alcohol and drugs and and women and just doing whatever i could to try to solve this void of not knowing a whole lot about who my mother was or who the people that had me. It was just a vicious cycle. That i repeated over and over again even while being successful in working with many Businesses are different businesses than and in california. So in your family. I'm taking it was a big deal for you graduate high school. Obviously your banker. You've graduated from college you know. It's just spiritually. You're on church. Her dan so there. I have to ask the question. How does god play into that struggle. You went through some wild things still processing the stuff as an adult you know where does faith church. All that come in does something. I always tell people if you know my story that it you can only answer it with because of god. My grandmother was very spiritual she send us to church. She would never go but and my grandfather will go to church. You know in a group home We went to church and then in my new home we went to church and some of the best times of my life because i was an athlete in high school and the guys in the high school. We have competitions. So i bring all the athletes and we'd beat everybody but god was always with me My christian camp. That i went to that. My family sent me two summers best two weeks. And if you have kids get him on the list of might take you two years to get in but what a life changing experience. It was for me. I tend to local church here in orange county He side christian church. And i loved that church. They loved on me for sixteen years now and so without god you know life is meaningless. He will deliver you in his time. But you do have to put in the work. And i've been fortunate to put in the work and i can honestly say that i am free To be able to accept the love that my family has tried to give me for all these years As well as many others for those of you. Who don't know me very well or tim very well. We've been talking as if this was about other people. But tim i didn't. I didn't know how to deal with this issue. Kinda just with us talking with who we are. Tim is my son. I knew i wouldn't be able to say that without tearing up And it's we're talking. We're talking to thirty five years later. This has been a life right Leave us with a favorite memory Is as you look back at the life. We've had together a favorite memory of of tim. It's part of the bass family many. I was fortunate enough to have a summer job building the church Your church in southern maryland chesapeake presbyterian church and i'd get on. My bike is about three in the morning to ride a school or right at work and You know before you know. The sun came up and we had to pour concrete but one of the cool things that my mom my dad my brother and sister would show up at the job site. Bring me breakfast. And it wasn't just some you know reckless burrito which is very good but i got on a plate blueberry pancakes fresh bacon you know and all the all the construction guys are looking at me like who and why is he getting all this good treatment Are those are some great memories You know that. I had when you took me to the dude ranch on my twenty first birthday with a bunch of guys from church. That was a great time while most guys at twenty one rout partying. you know. I was on a dude ranch learning about horses and hanging out by a campfire. So i think you know watching my brother play hockey and my sister play soccer And just oh my little sister she you know she's not so little anymore but you know she's just the apple of my and I think those those are some of the great memories That i've had but also my mom you know she is the rock of the fam- by far and i believe your success and my success is because of the even keel Just love and support without judgment or questions Really you know manifest itself in my life and and those are some great memories. That i've had so i was gonna ask if you wanted to give her out. In north carolina's she's freezing and much missed. septem- thanks so much for being here. Let let me just say a few words before we close have you ever felt underappreciated resentful for people noticing your acts of kindness or efforts to improve their life or the world. If not your unique when you ever hear. People talk about being over appreciated. Sure tom brady talk about the team. after he wins the super bowl in tampa but no one really believes them. We can't relate getting too much. Credit is just not part. Luis us humans perceive life. at least not very often with that considerable qualification. Let me take my stab at any. Anyway i get way too much credit for tim dyson. I didn't pray that god would send a broken teenager into our life as we struggle the one and three year old. I didn't have a vision of being a foster parent or have a view of race which drove me a want to have a multi-racial family. I didn't have the wisdom training to take on parenting a sixteen year old when i was only thirty one. We had an extra room in our small three bedroom house. In those days it would be a few years before the little ones needed a bedroom of their own going back to a neighborhood. I knew was riddled with crime and drugs was not something anyone would want for a teenager making progress in life. So maybe it just happened. Maybe or maybe. Before the foundation of the world a sovereign loving god who reigns over all of history beyond our miniscule comprehension decided to use the bash family as an expression of his grace may be the god of the church allowed hundreds to come through. Those doors would miss the message knowing an unlikely teenager was going to see it. Perhaps jesus heard the prayers of a struggling mother overwhelmed to navigate life with a work mahalick pastor husband no other family around to support her attempting to nurture an overactive infant and an ever ready toddler and laughed as he wrote the pages of life to make an unlikely match. I haven't been a very good father to him and his adult years. I sure didn't have any model to follow. But that's just an excuse. i'm serious and it's tim's fault. I'm serious and tim thanks. It's my fault in. He's serious and we've lived for years being serious but malcolm's the and remember this church hurts and the and life so from time to time god come down and starts laughing at us and he points out that we love spending time together. We can create a party in a morgue. We're both overly sensitive and stubborn and we have a love for one another. That's deeper than most parents and children ever get to experience one of those times. When tim was wrong and wouldn't come to christmas. The kids arrived at my home complaining about him. Having stopped to see him Early on christmas morning. I silently loved hearing them support. My view of what a turkey was at least until my daughter blurted out. He's exactly like you. Oops that's one backhanded compliment. I rather liked. It's worth a thought for richardson. In this john bash go and enjoy got today. Well that was worth a thought for sure and brings us to this addition of church and next week rumored will be walking on the bercy during the denial winding move our hose. Doctors john upper with things nonprofit ministry admitted security for fast and christian leaders at risk of leading at church and dot org until then remember kirk door. Now go into a joy. god today won't you.

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Ep 415 - My Grandmother Asked Me To Tell You She's Sorry, by Fredrik Backman

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Ep 415 - My Grandmother Asked Me To Tell You She's Sorry, by Fredrik Backman

"This is a head. Gum podcast while Andrew and Craig believe the joy of discovery is crucial to enjoying any well told tale. They will not shy away. From spoiling specific story beats when necessary. Plus these are books. You should have read by now. Uh It wasn't a raccoon. Andrew wasn't a raccoon that adolescent raccoon. That was giving me so much trouble last week. Hi Welcome over to gas at the books even mean to read when he was Craig. My Name's Andrew and if you're just tuning in you will remember that last week when we recorded Craig had an animal and his wall that was giving him a lot of grief he had a roommate move in and clean squatters rights in our wall and after hearing the animal noises over the phone a man said with a pretty high degree of confidence as I recall that it was definitely an adolescent recruit. Yes that was not. That's not how turned out. How the story turnout? No a very kind. Man named jared came to my house the next morning and promptly within hearing it and he had also laid eyes on outside of the building said. That's starling that's a Birdie or wall and he'd spent half an hour trapped inside our closet after cutting and then he said Hey. It's two birds in there. So and they shoved him in a cage humanely and then sealed up our wall and left never to be seen again. They say burn. The hand is worth two in the wall. Yeah I guess just like is the exchange rate one adolescent raccoon equals to starlings and is that why he thought it was an adolescent birds dressed up as a raccoon. I guess maybe just the guy on the phone had dealt with enough raccoons that he he taught we got told a story about how young raccoons like lose their way in the tunnels between houses. And this was like no bird got in through a hole and then fell and then the big bird didn't WanNa leave it behind which is noble. I suppose but we didn't get any sleep so I was. I've never been less angry. No more angrier animals. I think than I was those days. But we're we're we're here now and there are still allow birds in our neighborhood. But they're not in my house which is where they should be so. That's one story wrapped up on this. Podcast we love story. That's normally when we're not getting animals in places where animals shouldn't be each chivas. Reads a book that we've never had before and we tell the other one about it and you. The listener gets a ride along. Yeah you read this week Show I read. My Grandmother asked me to tell you she sorry Frederick Bachmann it is also published in the UK. I think as my grandmother sends her regards and apologizes. Which do you like better? I do think I like the US version better. Because I want I want the. Uk wanted to be. My Grandmother Sends Her regards and apologies. Holiday is is very odd though I guess in keeping with the t tell you she sorry. It's like more active than sends her regards and apologies. But I do like the tell you she sorry it. Just it's simpler. It's I duNNo. It's more direct. Maybe that's more American of me. Yeah Bachman is what. He's Swedish right. Yes I think the translation is by henning coach and in Coke And I enjoyed the translation. Just fine I had no like. I know I had no ringing. Endorsement is fine there. We've talked about some novels. I could translate it and it's like you can't you lose a sense of auth intent sometimes because I think we talked about this a little bit on the shadow of the wind episode like. Yeah where is it leaning into the Gina and whereas is it leaning into just a flowery translation and the fact that this book is a very close third person of seven going on eight year old helps with elect directness of the language Like feeling justified in world but also probably keeping the translator from like kind of getting out there on on a limb. I don't know what am I wanted. this was recommended to us by one of our patrons supporters. Susan thank you Susan. Susan didn't provide any additional information very excited to Dallas to read this book. So that's all was just GONNA have have to reverse engineer Susan's opinion about the spot. Hey that's okay there you go. That sounds good What do you got Bachmann or the novel Andrew Yellow just a little bit on on Bachman in the novel so the novel like US says published in two thousand fifteen in the US and in the UK and then originally in twenty thirteen in Sweden This Bach Men's second novel His first a man called Ova which I watched a movie trailer they can. I kept going back every time a character said his name. So that's that's the best pronunciation. I got based on the trailer for the film. Sure the Swedish movie that came out in two thousand fifteen by the same name. A man called the. Yes which is far as I could tell us about a crank uelmen with a gold cranky all may with a heart of gold and this book is littered with Cranky people with hearts of gold. So you can see. There's a if you've you've read a man called Ova you probably will feel right at home and liked it like you'll feel at home in this book because I there's a similar worldview. I suppose that's what I was when I was reading through a reader reviews of of this. I saw a couple of people mentioned. You know I've I've read a bunch of Walkmans work in. This is the most similar to the man called who've except with a bunch of other stuff which will get into sure. Sure Yeah other books include Britain Marie was here. Bear town which sounds like a fun us against you and then Avella's every more and every morning the way home gets longer and longer and the deal of a lifetime and in a nonfiction book called things my son needs to know about the world Britain. Marie was here. Might be in the same universe like fictionally as This book my grandmother etc. Because that's one of the main key one of the characters that we meet one secondary characters that we meet and from what I read about. The Synopsis Picks up where that character leaves off in this book of a woman whose marriage falls apart and she goes off to explore a new chapter in her life. SO I don't. I don't know that it's been called a sequel. I would have expected it to be but the more of a view askew never S- situation. Yes definitely where things are where. Things are vaguely related by virtue of not directly contradicting on. Oh sure times silent Bob shows. I forgot that that's what that universe was called and I forgot that it was a universe. Yeah the older guy. Like every seventy five episodes or so I bring up the view esque universe in reference to some world building. One of those movies I've ever spent real time with his dogma which I don't know if it holds up but I liked it I like at the time and I think I choose to leave it back there though. Alan Rickman is good. In as our CAU- Yes Allen. Richtman is good in it interesting okay. That's all I got about him that he did he's a he's also like a newspaper columnist and essayist and then got into novel writing There's a New York Times profile of on him from twenty sixteen mostly on the like. Wow this guy's sell us books like Well like why the itsel lots of books in America like. How did that happen okay? That's it traces. It from like the rejection of the Ova manuscript which he said one publisher said we like your novel. We think you're writing has potential but we see no commercial potential and one of the like booksellers who acquired the rights. Peter Boylan said I had a great voice and it was different from everything else I was reading. It wasn't Scandinavian Nawar Scandinavian. He paused searching for the right description. Something Else I. It is interesting to think about it as a as an American book industry though like the Swedish export from the like mid to late arts was stieg Larsson and like the girl with the Dragon. Tattoo and now homing and then this guy. That's more I've never read any of those. But that's more of like a thriller. Yes yes archetype. Right yes And this is very different at a whole different thing so reading reading reviews about the book. And because because you asked me to just let come with some kind of vague handle on what the book was. Yeah please and like you said to me like it's not quite sick. Lit like the the new on air because because we talked about it or on her own but not when we were playing. Drive trucks right. Cyclic is a sort usually. I WANNA a fiction. A character dies or is dying in that is the like you the instigating event of the story or just like a access that everything sort of yes the What's the John Green Book Palmar our stars our stars. Maybe it's either a walk to remember and or the Britney Spears movie crossroads. Yeah it's some you gotta spend the last good times with someone's life a book. The one that I that came to mind that I read for the show while but I still think about sometimes said tell the wolves I'm home. Oh have it here. It's a girl's uncles. Mike Boyfriend is dying of AIDS in the late eighties early nineties sure sure and teaches the girl a little something about life along the way like. It's easy to be dismissive of the of the genre and so so this isn't quite that but it's sort of playing in that wheelhouse is a character. Death in that does set the events of the of the book into motion but it sounds like in addition to just being about Mike people with hearts of gold. It's also got some like sort of magical realism means. Sort of make believe it has a main believes going on. Yeah let me give you the really reductive sentence that I put in our chat before we started recording already. He already gave it to me. You don't have to you have to give me again. That's why I'm saying I have it already. Let me say it out loud in case anyone else needs to hear it. Okay if you think that's necessary. Eight-year-old learns that a bunch of adults in her life are more connected than she thought and that everyone is more complicated than they seem at first glance and that is definitely what happens in the book and it is run through this. You Know Main Character Elsa who is seven going on eight. She is quote unquote. Different is a for is a term that both and people people who like her and people who don't like her consider her different and it's like either a good or a bad thing based on whether or not you like her she's A very precocious kid. She's Super Smart. She loves to read But she also loves to tell people when they're wrong and loves to people. Love love to like wind. That super endearing wheeled that knowledge that she you know really ingests a lot of information and then like is pretty insightful. About how people behave and just her peers. Her seven year old boys are not prepared to receive that type of treatment from anyone let alone. A girl If you can't hear my I roll and the whiplash gave my neck for being a seven-year-old boy there for a second So she really only has one friend who really gets her and that is her granny who I think is seventy seven and she has. She's she is seven and then granny seventy yes. Yes and granny is like Man Take multiple versions of the like outside the box grandparent from fiction but like and roll it into one but like she's not super problematic like she's not you know spouting off with stuff that she shouldn't say necessary racist racist grandma she's more like the grandparents from. Hey Arnold yes she's A. She's an agent of chaos. Graham is and her and Elsa get along very very well and so the it's not quite the inciting in the book but the major incident in the first quarter of the book is that Granny does pass away from cancer and she leaves this like Treasure Hunt of letters for Elsa to find and then deliver to various people who live in their apartment building And over the course we'll get we'll dive deeper than this but like the Ark of the book is Elsa learns about granny while also thinking about how to like remember her as she encounters people. She thought she knew one way but then like based on how she interacts with them. Trying to deliver these letters and trying to uncover who actually are like learns a little bit more about them in how the book the Fairytale Thing Always GonNa ask is is. This person is pretty straightforward. But how does to the extent that this book lost people in the good reads reviews? Okay how was all the jumping around between this stuff and like the make believe stuff so the the make believe stuff. The book does not. It doesn't do a straight up NARNIA. It doesn't do a straight up magical realism thing. The the magical part of this book is that there's a place called What is it called the land of the most the land of the land of almost a week which is a place that Granny Helps Elsa. Go to When she first you know Elsa thinks that the land of almost away comes from when Elsa parents were splitting up and she was having trouble sleeping and having autzen nightmares and granny invented this place. Elsa thinks To give her a series of stories to like take your mind off eight. It's a place you go when your eyes are half closed. You don't even have to get fully asleep to go there and it's made up of like six or seven kingdoms That all have these interesting. Names MEA MOSS and memo vaas. And there's lots of interesting little word play And it's not straightforward fantasy but there are princesses and nights and there are monsters in there are like shadows and things like that. Is it the seed siblings? Who had that elaborate doesn't will union. They may that doesn't really the most of it doesn't really exist anymore correct. It didn't survive. I mean yes Let me read two passages that give you a sense of what this world is? And then I'll talk about functions in the book Grainy says that the Kingdom had called me a moss for an attorney or at least ten thousand fairy tales but also knows the granny only made this up. Because Elsa couldn't say pajamas when she was small and used to say Mama's instead except of course grainy insist that she never made up a bloody thing in Miami and the other five kingdoms in the land of almost awake or not only real but actually far more real than the world. We're in now where quote everyone is an economist and drinks lactose free milk and makes a right fuss. Granny has a story from Yarmouth forever spending time on twitter. It sounds like granny likes to rail against the man a lot granny refers to this person. We'LL TALK ABOUT GRANNY. And and what she did as a surgeon but she talks a lot about capital society holding her back telling her you couldn't practice medicine Granier a story from MIYAMA's for every situation one of them is about deplores. The kingdom were all sorrow is kept in storage and it's princess was robbed of Magical Treasurer by an ugly witch whom she's been hunting. One was about the sea angel burdened by curse that forced her to drift up and down the coast of the land of almost a week after losing her beloved and it goes on and on and on like The builds to this war and see this happen whenever you encounter in the book. It IS ELSA. Remembering a story that her grandmother told her You know the one fairy tale. The shadows tried to abduct the Chosen. One in order to destroy this place but the cloud animal saved him and flew him all the way back to me. Moss and when the shadows came after them all the inhabitants. The six kingdoms of the land of almost week agreed to protect him and that was when the war without end started And so you get like never ending. Yeah it's very never ending story and you get character names you get wolf heart you get these beasts called resources you get the Chosen One. You get the C. Angel And Elsa has has these as a frame of reference for a body of fiction which she like occasionally will call out granny for like stealing things from Harry Potter or is unlike because Elsa loves Harry Potter and has a Griffin Doors. Scarf cares for it in the way that a seven year old cares for like a prized possession Harry Potter or And you know granny has invented this whole series of stories and as Elsa meets people over the course of the book she realizes that each of these stories like pertain to one of the people who live in the apartment building. So I did experience as you're going through the book. The fairy tales feel like they. Don't feel like filler. But they feel like you you you you know. They're a set up for something else as opposed to something to necessarily be taken on. Its own does that make sense Like they're not bracketed off in their own chapters where there's a compelling narrative to like Hook into. They are shared with the reader as Elsa remembers a story that she can use to make sense of the world. The reason it feels a little magical realism. E is that Elyssa then dislike commits to using some of the vocab from these stories like in the close third person that you're reading selection meets this guy who she is just decided is the monster. He turns out to be more like the old man from home alone where he scary but he's actually very helpful and kind and is just a sad person. I'm shows up at the exact right times whenever you're in trouble. There's this big monster dog that lives in the apartment complex for some reason and she constantly refers to it as the fairy tale word the worse And that never changes so like the book never actually tells you what kind of dog it is or anything because through the kids is that is the is the narrator you have this. Patina of fairy tale over everything Does that does that. Invite you to make up your own like play along at home and make up your own stuff to 'cause I imagine a worse to be just like a worse horse. It's a Portmanteau of worse and horse. Maybe in my head Oh God. I hadn't thought about that. She does like I'm on it and it's supposed to be like monstrously big at one point. She you can't the the the narrative style and there's not a I can't even pull out a section of the book that will give you this feeling but the the third person aerator is so close to her. That sometimes in the middle of reading I would think I was reading a first person narrative because it's so in her head That when she is talking about like providing treats to this dog that she's like keeping in the basement of this apartment building but she's talking about it like she's feeding this mythical creature Like instant cake. Mix Out of a thermos You're you're not quite sure. What like Elsa version is real and what the quote unquote like? Active reality is and that seems to be the point and that show. That could be a a bouncing off point. I think for people who are like into the heart warming learn about my granny's life narrative. But aren't here for the what is real and what is in work and it's a lot of work but it is some or you just kind of need to be willing to gloss it a little bit and I will be honest. I think I lost some of it because I once I realized what it was doing I would like look for the key parts of a story and then be ready to map it onto some of the other characters that already met because it sounds like there's a lot of world building going on that is just kind of there to flesh out the characters imaginary world without really conveying important information to you. The reader like world buildings not important if you're if the world actually is not what's driving the yeah dory if not what? The book is focused on being about if he to to talk about. The book does value stories. So I don't WanNa like short sell their presence in the book but them being compelling standalone narratives is not the point the point. I think what Batman's going for is like a these. Are you know stories? A grandmother told her granddaughter to help her through times and here is how that granddaughter uses them to help herself through times And Elsa interacts with anyone her own age throughout this book so every time she is talking about these stories and she talks to all the every adult about fairy tales stories but also how she talks with her grandmother. They are bridges between generations. So I think the book the book is offering or arguing. That stories can draw people together even as they are like at very different points in their lives Similarly like a scene where else's talking to a woman who's a psychotherapist Who has you know? Lost people in her life and has developed a drinking problem and isn't really relating to people very well and else is trying to convince her to read Harry Potter. Because like how do you own thousands of books and not own Harry Potter is an argument? She gets in with. This adult will miss okay and like later in the book. People are both that woman as well as her dad or like trying to read those stories so that they can relate to this girl that is like that they value and want to feel valued There's a similar thing with another character and like them watching star wars together so it's like both the fairy tales of the book and the Real World Fictional stories. This character is interested in Are used as bridges between people as opposed to like standalone stories that we're going to spend time with sure So you talked a little earlier. About the perspective which is third person verging on first person sometimes And so the the qurqus reviews piece that I read about. This is is mostly positive like the reaction to this book is is largely positive but finding constructive criticism is a good place. I think so. You're trying to record a book. Podcast for like fifty five minutes. Kirk says the third person narrative voice when aligned with else's perspective reveals heartfelt innocent observations but when moving towards on missions. It can read as too clever by half. I think that's that comes up for me a lot. One an adult author is writing a kid voice. Sometimes sometimes the kid voice is kid. I is like childish in there like understanding or articulation of things even if they still get at the essential truth because of how perceptive children `red children have branded themselves as being no so like. But but then. But sometimes it's like. Oh Yeah you're this is clearly like a thirty two year old writing a seven year olds and this is why this information is here and the sounds like this. Yeah so let me give you two examples. I think that actually get to that before before I do that myself. there's A. There's a running thing where several elsa is frustrated by the older people in her life who don't understand technology and that doesn't that feels true to me it even as it might be backman having fun with technology himself the fact that a a seven year old would ask some old people that she's talking to to use their computer to look a word up on wikipedia and then be confused that the computer is two separate pieces and that it takes a minute to start like that's like a thing. It plays for good goof in the moment Her rely or familiarity with ipads and the her lack of credulity that anyone would use anything else like. It's that feels like a precocious seven-year-old to me. There's stuff that I think. Works as as humorous writing but I could see falling under that umbrella of like a clever author Okay so I'll give you those gambles one of the things that I like about. This book is the way it gives you like. Remember like it's almost like the western game because you have so many people living in this one apartment building that you need like quick character sketches and no specific traits to hang your hat on. So they're like everybody. Everybody gets to be like this. Is The guy who has a lot of mop? Yes this is the lady who wears pink all the guy who drinks coffee all the time and when he and his wife drink coffee in front of their dog Samantha. They don't say they're having coffee. They call it. A drink for grownups. 'cause they train that's just that's combining all my favorite stuff about coffee people and dogs. There's one so else's mom has remarried with this guy named George She is going to have another kid. Who else refers to as Haffey? Because it's going to be a half sibling. And she has very mixed feelings about it. Georgia's apparently a really lovely guy who everyone likes his superpower. Elsa loves superheroes as you talk about people having superpowers a lot But Elsa has refused to let herself like him because then she would be like giving in. And that's how she can express like some sort of agency here. But here's this. Here's I felt very seen and attacked in in this section on George Lucas. George lives with mom. And that's not always the easiest things because it means he also lives next door to granny. He has a beard and a very small hat is obsessed with jogging during which he insists on wearing his shorts top of his tracksuit he cooks in English and so when he's reading the recipes he says he says pork instead of flask. Granny never calls him George just loser which infuriates mom but Elsa knows what grains doing it she just wants Elza. No she's on else side no matter what the like. He has a beard and a small hat and is one of those dudes is obsessed with jogging. Like okay attack me Craig. They that's the description of Craig has definitely me and I think is missing. Is the bird wall strew but like that is a those. Observations play to an adult reader. Like if they play a joke they land for an adult reader. That Bachmann is talking to like around. Elsa it's not else's point of view that might be making those interesting or funny right similarly with this guy named Kent In the flat under Granny's live. Britt Marie. And can't they like owning things and especially likes telling you how much everything costs. He's hardly ever at home because he's an entrepreneur or a contra preneurs as he likes to joke loudly to people he doesn't know and if people don't laugh right away he repeats it even louder as if they're hearing is the problem and so like continuing. Our nickelodeon references is a real a real Mr Dink. It is a real dink so like against some of those humorous observations and character sketches come from an adult awareness of how people behave. That is perhaps just passed. What you might reasonably believe as else's precociousness but maybe you can just say Oh elsa conveying to me what she sees and an. I'm mostly worked so I can keep going. Yeah I liked those passengers. I pulled them because I thought they were funny. And like reveal a little bit of the sense of humor of the book but I could see someone going. Well that's not else's sense of humor. That's the authors and it's like intruding on what? I am getting out of it like. That wasn't my experience of reading it but I certainly could see how someone would experience at that shirt And I've alluded to the other people in the apartment building. 'cause like so the the setup of the novel there couple ticking clocks. There's the impending. Half Sibling is obviously granny's passing. Which happens early. And then it's like okay. We gotta do this adventure where we give these letters out And then there is also kind of a background drama of will. The tenants be able to form a lease association and by. I think that's what it's called in the book. They're gonNA buy the apartments from the owner of the building Okay and then put up one last show and save the old performing Arts Center. Yeah it feels like that. Experts very contentious because Kent is the one driving this and angling for it and he turns out to be a right. He'll let me tell you what But he is like driving it for what are clearly like money reasons like he's going to buy it and then he's just GonNa flip it because it's a good neighborhood And you learn over the course of the book that some of the people in the apartment probably couldn't afford to make that decision you also learn over the course the book that granny is the one who does own the apartment building so the like arc of are these people going to be able to stay together. Are they going to do they? Should they stay together? And how? What Role. Will Elsa play in that is like the other kind of macro level things so you do spend a lot of time kind of bopping between the different rooms in this apartment complex house thing? I'll admit I lost a little sense of like the physical reality of it and that may be the influence of the of the fairy tales idol is I had a hard time kind of keeping track of the geography even though that that did seem to be important to Elsa I e Okay Yeah you said that was just invalidated the point I was GonNa say I I was GonNa ask if that was if that was the point because I mean maybe two pe- to people who don't live in in an apartment complex like the point of it kind of is that it mostly looks the same right. Yeah Yeah I I'm just saying I kinda lost. There's a couple like I dare. I feel weird even calling them like actions sequences but there are series of physical action. That happened at times. That do seem to hinge on like relationships between spaces that I would lose the thread a little bit. So it's what you're saying is it's clear that the author has a picture director wants you to have a picture of this in mind but it was not conveyed in a way that you could at least follow. At least I had trouble with it. Perhaps because I was you know distracted by the magical realist language or I was. You know to invest in the emotional part. I'm not sure I didn't. I had a hard time. Kraken it the other characters that we meet our like. There's this guy name Alf. Who's a taxi driver? Whose whole thing isn't that. He can. At least that we see he does curse too much. He loves listening to opera. And it's just like Alf from the show Alf Ruth and he's the one of the first characters like the second wave of characters that like get involved in else's like quest like oh. Wow He knew granny in a way that Elsa never knew about and like is going to get revealed over the course of the book He's one of the first ones that like really has a like a More Iceberg under the under the water. Line what you know what I mean. That's how they What they say. And then they don't say we don't say it's only the tip of the iceberg anymore we say there's more iceberg under the waterline. And then there's a guy that Elsa starts out car calling the monster who's a scary man alone As I alluded to before. He's the kind of old man from alone character but she meets him he definitely has a heart of gold his clearly suffering from PTSD from some wars that he's been in And is incredibly like GERMOPHOBIC and stuff and he will like he travels around with her. She ends up giving him the name. Wolf heart because this character from the fairy tales that was modeled after him. And and the reason all these people actually live in this apartment building. There's a couple people that grew up in it and then the rest made their way there because of granny and she was this like world traveling successful surgeon who clearly did a lot of doctors without borders kind of warzone work and working with refugees and stuff so a number of the characters like had a tragic thing happen to them in a different part of the world and then she brought them back or at least invited them to stay and then they never left So the to me. There's like the the book as Fairy Tale if you look at the whole book as a fairytale it is not a fairy tale with a like binary morality It's not a like good guys. Bad guys is It it traffics in like heroes that defeat villains but then like every one of those stories takes a swerve until zone of of like moral gray. Well everybody everybody's hero sometimes or something. Yeah I think the like it's either that or a real life. Isn't that simple kid? Yeah and there's like A. There's a way that granny puts it that I think involves cursing that I'm not gonNA say on air but it's like sure should something about like most of the time people can be bad and your life is really just about making sure that you're good enough most of the time or like not being bad and it's a real like y'all need to run faster than the slowest when your pursued by a Predator. I'll have to be better than the words laws. I'll get to the let me make sure I come back to that like. Who are the worst people in this book? Because I think that's a weakness there's a weakness there but what I was because I guess I guess I'm wondering if there's an antagonised other than there is the big C there is yes okay The the thing about it as a fairy tale that I think mostly works is the serendipity of all these characters being connected and being like tied to granny in some way and them having these lives that are all like this person knows that person because they went on way to war and this person actually used to be in love with that person But then gave her up because they messed up and this person is really mean to else's mom because she actually thought that she was going to be able to like be a bigger part of her life and Everybody who is a jerk to someone else has a very like all. That's sad reason for being a jerk and not. There's not a single person in the Web. That doesn't have at least like one or two other nodes at least by the end of the book and that is very fairytale e be you know it's very it's fiction the fact that stuff is connected as often. You know it's not just coincidence. Right in a story it usually Riley as like somebody made it that way. Yeah and so like so. In a in a children's fairy tale where everything has meaning like all of these people being connected. That part of it is like a gift that granny is kind of giving her and like a very optimistic view of the world. I found a review by dude on his own site. Just this guy named Russ all berry who. I don't even know what his like I think he's just a guy with a blog is as a WHO also likes video games. But he wrote this. Russ all bear He wrote this review. That's Kinda Nice in is with my experience of the book. He says I am as a side note once again struck by the subtle difference in stories from cultures with a functional safety net. I caught my American brain puzzling through ways that some of the people in this book could still be alive and living in this apartment building since they don't seem capable of holding down jobs before realizing the story is not set in a brutal Hobson in jungle of all against all like the states. Wow that's that's a read in the existence of the safety net plays a role in this book apart from plays no significant role in this book apart from putting a floor under how far people can fall and yet it makes all the difference in the world and in some ways makes his plot possible so I just tossed here listen Khan counterpoint. Allowed the books that we've read on. This show can only exist if America is a brutal Hobbs in general. Yeah so wishes. Better for literature. I just Russ all bury his never thought I would discover that paragraph and I didn't know how much I needed to read it. Yeah after I read this book anyway. Yeah because I feel like often when we're reading books that are set in another country. It's like old times. Yeah it was very interesting to read a a modern European book but not a British book That was not like wrestling with a specific historical conflict or era. Like I feel like that's a lot of what we read for the show and and in fact you know for twenty thirteen twenty fifteen pretty zeitgeist e in its in its like young person has relative die and then goes on an adventure of sorts. Yeah shape yeah but also it. It talks about characters going off to wars plural and his very nonspecific. About what those are. It talks about The Wolf Heart. Is this refugee character from another country? And so it's it has a very generous Vibe towards people like migrant peoples in people who are displaced It does I think reference the soon Nami that hit India Okay because that is where the one woman like lost her family But it doesn't do it by name to says like a couple of years as this happened in a place not near here kind of thing. But other than that like the the realities of the world outside of this city and neighborhood are pretty like fuzzy on purpose I think to a positive effect so the thing that didn't really land for me Because Granny's Pretty Rad. I loved Elsa in this book. There's a scene where Elsa bangs on a dude's car with her textbook to to like make a mad that he beeped at her mom and traffic and else's like telling-off kids about whether or not she could wear spider man costume and like yelling at teachers else's just rules throughout this book There is an antagonist of sorts. Whose NAME IS SAM. You encounter him twice in the book before you know who he is and he is someone who attempts to take Elsa and you don't know who he is you don't know why he's doing what he's doing you just take her literally attempts to take her like Try to take her like from a playground near school at one point. He's and she is saved. And she is saved by the monsters slash wolf heart at that point and then similarly at granny's funeral she she like she can't handle the funeral and I will say that a lot of what I think was hitting me in this book. Both in like in my gut and also in my head was like in ways to the two things in ways that I was conscious of and in ways that I think are only like hitting me as I think about the book and Digest. The book is like I lost my grandmother. Who spent her entire life in my house when I was in eighth grade and so the the relationship between Elsa and her grandmother isn't like one to one with mine like losing someone like that who occupied a different role in your life It specifically being a grandmother and it being a unique relationship that definitely felt different from other relationships that you had or new. And there's a lot of Elsa that I'd just very personally identify with and so like that. Part of the book is very moving deserve frustrating To encounter this Sam character who like Elsa runs out of her grandmother's funeral because she can't handle it shares too many people there who apparently knew her grandmother and like I distinctly remember there being one or two people at my grandmother's funeral who else who is that person. Why do they know she is? That seems wrong And so she runs out of there. She runs out into the graveyard and this man tries to take her And I think Wolf Heart saves her again. I don't really remember that gets resolved but the man gets away Then we need to debrief on this man is he. Is the father of the another tenant the boy with a syndrome As Elsa Calls Him who is a is a boy a year younger than her. He does not speak For whatever reason And His mom is caring for him on her own and he had an abusive father who had dealt with anger issues and substance abuse issues and he turns out to be the son of one of the pairs of tenants And there's like a very like thin sliver of logic where because they like got away from him with the kid was young enough he doesn't quite like know what the kid looks like a few years later and because Elsa has a similar haircut. He actually thinks she's is like okay. And that's it's not especially nefarious. I guess well. It is NOT SPECIFICALLY NEFARIOUS TO ELSA. It is various real. Okay yes that's what I mean And I think what didn't work for me about it is that it felt like it wasn't it was it was It was like a glancing storyline against else's it like it was an antagonise. That wasn't actually about her quest. If that makes sense yeah I was GonNa say it feels like maybe inserted to to bend the dramatic arc of the book a Little Bit. S isn't especially well integrated into a book that otherwise seems pretty internally because the consistent right the build up to the the most climactic scene in the book the tensest scene in the book is the final attempt at this guy to take Elsa and The worse you know saves her in a very heroic fashion other characters who have been against her. Who could have like made it harder for people to help her have not done that? And and been kind to her along the way. So there's like many payoffs but it doesn't seem like the culmination of else's relationship with her granny. It doesn't seem like the culmination of her understanding her mom. Her Dad better scenes with her mom and her or really gorgeous and really heartwarming. And then this really feels like it was put in there to give some sort of suspense and like adventure. Anxiety to the book They're kind of like what will happen next when that isn't really what the book is strongest at I do think the way that Bachmann like reintegrates that plot into the epilogue of the book where it Kinda does alike. Here's where everyone winds up. Sorta way His parents do go like visit him in whatever facility or or you know place that he has taken after this event where I don't know I don't think it's just a jail I think it's something else And there it is very clear that like those characters believe that they have to do good by this person because he is a human and deserves basic goodness and that the book is very aware and else's very aware of the tension of what you do with like no that person harms people. How do I feel about that? And what do I do about that? And it's actually one of things like granny is connected to that person and she apologizes for her own misgivings about that person So the book treats it with a very nuanced lens which is nice and is actually part of what the books very good at. But the like. Here's a man who's here steel elsa else's it's like it doesn't feel connected to the central you know mysteries or stakes for the characters And it's Weird I. I don't know I haven't felt I haven't read a book in a while. That felt like it had something so dislike kind of like out of place like it's almost like a garden and there's just like one flower that's just like at a completely different angle like maybe it's like a different plants and like it's a fine plan. It just doesn't belong here. Short messing up the whole aesthetic. Yeah this is like the Uganda. Despite not owning a switch or playing animal crossing gone to very animal crossing place with this this man. I mean it's all. Is there gardening outside animal? Crossing ninety real life might be based on the mechanics of animal crossing. Actually yeah I mean yes. That's true all things flow from Mr Nintendo. Jim Tanto it's true. This is a fun book. I did really like it. I I could see how folks would bounce off it and I could see how and I personally found like as I said the same thing a little underwhelming but it is GonNa read this book right now. There's a lot of grief in it and so just be careful but I I think Similar felt with a death in the family. I think it's an interesting book for where you might put some specific griefs or find some ways to like think about how other people deal with it If in and again I I don't want to oversell. How like the book being dislike a sad book it's actually very And and charming but yeah it's a real Israel. There's a thing he says a couple times. Where like there's a phrase? There's too much reality for an eight year. Old is like a phrase that happens a couple of times when yeah? That's yeah I can see that. When when the adults like lean heavy on a real story that they are explaining to Elsa and she kind of gets fuzzy and loses some of the details and she just says there's too much with the narrator says that's too much reality for eight year old and like yeah. I get it I get it. It did have Dow thirty minutes ago. It did have a hey arnold building value to it because there's that episode and I was going to bring it up but then we move past it and so I wasn't going to force to go back to fair enough. There was an episode of. Hey Arnold where? Arnold has to collect the rent from each of the tenants who live in the building that his grandparents are like the landlords of and he gets caught up in like a bunch of short little stories at which is because they're a bunch of tenants and I think Hey Arnold was eleven minute like each twenty two minute. Episode was two eleven minute stories and to do that at eleven. Minutes is pretty. That's pretty fast. But yeah that that. That is what came to mind when you were doing your descriptions especially once I landed on Arnold's grandparents as the as my sort of Canon for herger her granny. Yeah let me just go out on a quote about Granny Talking you know. We hear about how she was this warzone surgeon. Did all this wonderful work. But one day someone decided she was too old to save. Lives EVEN BELLSA. Quite strongly suspects what they really meant by. Two old was too crazy. Granny refers to this as society and says it's only because everything has to be so bloody politically correct. Nowadays that she's no longer allowed to make incisions in people and that it was really mainly about society getting so bleeding fussy about the smoking ban in the operating theaters and who could work under these sorts of conditions. It's grainy is out there to tell it like it is and not suffer. Fools an Elsa picks up on that and it's it's pretty endearing she should start a radio shock jock. Your Ram grants yeah. Granny would eat that. Roll up if she could Thanks me tell you about this book Andrew Tell me about. I don't know that we're really solve the mystery of what Susan likes about this book but probably all the same things that I liked is what say her. Yeah Susan Leszno send us an email over potted dot com season and let me know if I got it right Twitter DOT COM over to facebook dot com slash over to pot of the websites that you can use to tell me if I'm or wrong Thanks to Neil Meghan Danny Me Michelle. Barb Heather Joshua Marta Ebony Mike Anthony Kyle Amber Terry many more. We did one of our what. You're reading threads in the last week. 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LCB Ep. 308 - Top 5 Things In Malls, Paul Blart Mall Cop Review, Ryan Phillippe Interview, and The Mandalorian Episode 3 Reaction

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LCB Ep. 308 - Top 5 Things In Malls, Paul Blart Mall Cop Review, Ryan Phillippe Interview, and The Mandalorian Episode 3 Reaction

"I'm not. I'm dominant around fifty and beyond me. You can get me out of this message off your sh might pay. You can't handle the truth. Maybe not maybe fuck yourself security out kid. One dot day of what we've got here is saying yes. Just well we're going. We don't need roads your heart. What might scare barstool so freeway. Jeff ken jack travel mall episode. We're talking about balls. We're talking about paul mall. Cop does if we just had a false start. We did a little peak behind the curtain. We went thirty seconds into it and jeff was on the wrong. Mike and i know when to bring it up. But i'd jump on the first word honestly i can. My brain doesn't work that quickly soda trivia and then somebody said it like after it was always like mike was kinda fucked might mean should is told me in the first ten seconds but you guys caught it more than enough time every now and then one of us will get them plugged them usually just in the middle of the episodes. Fix it right in the beginning. It's okay to just do art. Nothing like a good heart when you're might just completely plugs. Yes orpheum paul mall cop. We're going to review make from david fincher. But yet he he released in theaters. We didn't realize it comes on december. Fifth ken jack. You'd mentioned freaky. Something freaky eh. The vince vince. Vaughn movie of hearing very good things about that. So far vince. Vaughn catherine that. That's not that's not even streaming at all so are we asked her suggestions. And i saw paul lorentz. That seems perfect for us right now. There's a local talk about paul board very happy we watch it. I've watched in a long time. There's a we. We recently did observe and report. And there's a lot of similarities between observant report and palmar mall cop however they're both very different movies very different. We do observe and report. I guess we did. We did right if we we all watched it. Yeah well they did. The memory intertwining for me when i was watching paul It it brought back a lot of memories from observing report. Ms very disorienting experience. I also forgot to take my anxiety meds for two days Also i think that also like went into to Before we started the pod. Like i got off my whole master's lore a leg. I love going in and just like looking at the arbitrary rules about the masters green jacket greenjackets. The most fascinating thing for me is you've you play your whole career. Finally win this green jacket right and they put it on. You got it. That's just the property of augusta national. Still i'm sorry dustin johnson. That's not your kid. I can get over that with cups or whatever it's not like it's a wearable thing you know. Like a piece of clothing is so possessive or such a possession. Heavy thing take it back. I feel like if you yeah no. I think they're just. They're just in contribute to give degree degree like warren buffett probably has a green jacket definitely has a green jacket because they give the green jackets to all the members of augusta national. They're just very protective around when they wear him the bohemian grove. Type ship. now get together where the green jacket and plan world domination. Can't tell you dustin. Johnson maybe get to keep that for a year balloon. Come back next year. They they keep that storage locker. Whatever the the saudi prince orbs said that she all the guys from augusta just going around harnessing their green jacket energy did they have like a special night. In september when all the members of augusta get together just porky pig with their green jackets just greenjackets with the dresser with nothing on bottom of here. Here's a members. Warren buffett pete cores. Bill gates roger. Goodell pat haden lou. Holtz peyton manning jack nicholas milwaukee. Why haven't put jack nicholas on vicki. Wynn you're my dad. no shit. are you a member if you win. i think actually there's fine print on that one may condoleeza rice us a fairly historic one They didn't want women in the thing for a long time Until two thousand seven. Yeah yeah yeah hootie johnson talking beforehand Bunch of famous deceased once passed away. Jack welch t boone pickens Yes And then we'll play freak. I know like steph. Curry is played their bunchin. I've i've been. I've been one time it is. It's it's is majestic you take the turn off the road and you see the fucking hooters all like the regular strip mall things. Then you turn into this wooded area and you go right down magnolia lane and there you are. You're at augusta. It's it's crazy that that's what i've heard though this disorienting though when only just drive me down the street and there's like a rallies or check i guess is the checkers because it's in the south you pass by like a dollar general and you take a left hand turn in series lake. You've arrived at augusta national and you're there you're there now remember. Maybe checkers were near me. Maybe you're right. You're right on friday. I honestly have no clue. It's i spent a lot of my life. Like in indiana in also kentucky which is like the indiana kentucky border is kind of like the rally's checkers line so i get mixed up yum augusta on google maps. To if you do want to look at it is brown typically augusta his brown. There's a lot of very interesting things with augusta. it's a fascinating place. I'm surprised they didn't block it out from satellite like they do with all the military installation. That's you know. I would agree dr the dark the dark sites they just they just. It's a black hole and google satellite. It is rather surprising that it's seems like a very augusta thing to do to to block it out a big deal. It was in like pga tour. What year was it that they finally put augusta national in it. That was fucking insane that that's that's still almost unthinkable. They allow that to happen. I i didn't really get it at the time because at the time i'm like yeah it should be there. It's a major. Why witness in the game. But knowing what i know now about like how How your they are with their brand. It makes a lotta sense. It's a images on negotiator. You'd think you think the restraint of chick-fil-a not selling on on sundays. Something else. Just imagine like augusta looking all the money they could be making by selling lake fucking. Peter millar pullovers marked up to one hundred and seventy five dollars on an online store. And just just making gobs of money and they're so protective of their brand new Nope we know. You want the masters merchandise because buddy either got by for four hundred dollars on a grey market site or you gotta come here no between yeah i mean just to have all that cash on the table and then to just be like some worth it. We're already rich. We'll give fuck that's the point. There is a bonefish grill across. Outback steakhouse which that's tiger woods. Just like just winning last year. God damn i need some bang bang. Shrimp oh yeah really really need the chocolate thunder from down under a greg norman. Posted up back What else what else has happened now. Again okay so also so. Overall cup best of shopping malls strap. That's going to be a contentious draft. I am a little worried about losing some pics here. We all interviewed. Ryan phillippe bay. Why probably said his name wrong. A ten thousand times that that was very interview revealed something at the end that i i didn't expect way. Okay wait so the only thing. I think we need to mention is okay. I have the ps fired. And say how can you tell the folks how the ps five is the. Ps five along awaited drop. I got it. Thank god because i just hit the right order time on amazon. I really enjoy it. Call duty zombies. And i got valhalla assessments creepy. How is the only other game i got. I'm very bummed with it so far because it feels like almost entirely intro. You play the two. Ps four yeah feels like they went backwards. Feels like an entirely different game from odyssey. Which is insane to me considering a feel like most response to odyssey at least the combat system and inventory system like mostly positive. Now yeah lately. I think odyssey was shit on on first because it got rid of a lot of the stuff. Assassins people like from assassin's creed but the the world was so big. It was still fun to explore. The people got over it. What has happened in the meantime is the best. Assassins creed game has been made. It's called gosta sushila and that that has just. I think completely shattered my experience. I'm enjoying mahala. But at the same time i'm like i'm thinking about ghosted sushi. Mo like the stealth more enjoyable there. the combat system was more enjoyable. They're basically was like an assassin's creed game Anything else i don't think so. Let's do to address a quick. Let's talk about mandalorian before again to news because mandalorian was was fucking awesome. Did you watch a trill now. I'm watching you can spoil it forming out or i mean we're not going to spoil it. I don't care. I've literally don't care if he spoiler though i don't think i don't think it'll mean anything to you. You're you know you a fan of the animated show the will but did did the Giancarlo did his character comeback. Now the thing with the duck none is there was a bigger. But it's from the animated show so sorry if that's a spoiled people listening to the truth and that was it who who is. Who is the actor or actress. He's not going to go into it. I'm not going well it. We're just we're to be giving people. Monday's utah mondays to watch this shit about it. And that yeah. Once star wars puts up. They put up that boba fett picture on monday afternoon. That's it i. I like how they're just kind of taking control of they're doing that accepts. Oh brought to you by roman most guys as we know tried different ways to last longer but but thinking about paul mall cop doesn't always work poboy cup to we will talk about the sequel by the way i just let you know we're gonna have to discuss the sequel just a little bit. The folks enrolling online. Men's health company are changing the game with roman. Swipe a secret a longer lasting sex roman sweitzer clinically proven to last longer in bed. They're affected easy to use and fast active. But they don't require a prescription when we can shift swipes you in a discreet unmarked packaging and east back at a small enough to hide in your wallet forever. You need it. The super user take out of the packet. Swipe it on let it dry. And you're good to go that it's it roman dot com slash lights and get your first month through his five bucks a monthly plan. That's get roman dot com slash lights. So children watch mandalorian so we don't talk much about no need to But you can watch recap video on youtube myself. Can jack robbie fox. He did a good breakdown. It is a Easter egg heavy show episode But also one of the most bad ass star wars things. We've i think we've ever seen it was so fucking cool day. They just they just rushed it then. Big reveal the big big over veal. Big reveal won't mean anything if you're not a big fan of the animated series but also doesn't derail and if you don't you just gotta go okay active character characters but the action in this and the music. It's just they fucking killed. It was at a at a big smile. Watch now this is awesome. This is fun. This store should be right here too. Good fucking time. I'm just i'm watching. The sequel to jurassic world right now and they just got to the part where the big old brought a source gets lit up and man. They're sitting there crying. All the doors close ever been more obsessed with a single scene of a movie than you are with that bo. You mentioned that seen so many times torture porn versus this is no joke at least lease bare minimum like the tenth time you brought that up on the fucking say just crying gets involved in lava. Sorry bryce dallas. Howard actually directed the episode. That's right right there. And then the beginning is a complete lodge to apollo thirteen which we did not realize or they do a holy walk. Shot for shot. No the the razor chris crashing to earth just like the the whatever is the pod polo twelve the apollo twelve. What is that. What's the land landed. Lunar module no. It's it's the landing cops. I don't know louis. I'm going capsule that sounds close Gender will yeah wondering nineteen eighty-four might hit hbo. max might after a december release according to bloomberg. There's once again reports. That warner bros considering an unexpected. H max debut for one of four so go to movies and then be released them be released in On hbo max. Soon after I i look. I still don't know it'll happen like at this point. They've waited why not wait. But this'll be the first major domino. This would be a domino. Like this would force the hand many places to release movies and while i do want to see these things in theaters were also getting to a point where i just kinda of to see two movies. I'm starting to lose my My don't he did not see movies. We can go near new york city now open. They are some jersey But i think for the most part a lot of people in just avoiding theaters. So yeah. I'm i'm i'm on the fence now. I i used to say how. I'll wait now. I don't know if i want to wait much longer. I kinda wanna see this shit or yeah. Yeah of course I just don't know how makes any sense for the studio unless they're they're thinking. I don't know that it's going to lead to significant amount of people signing up for. Hbo max or whatever our the cut gets distributed there but it seems like this is something that it almost like these big tentpole movies in the dc universe. It just be better off holding off into twenty twenty one until they get a better idea with the landscapes like but as a consumer is a watcher. It's it's gets a win for us on. Give a shit about the studios. I mean not really like when. I mean they're going to be okay. Debate the big studios are going to be okay. I should say like i know. There's this small independent ones. That are hurting right now. But like you know the the the major ones are going to be fine so if they release it now write it off. I think it's good for the consumers ultimately it's it's you know whatever happens with the theaters is going to happen and obviously they're in trouble but Whether or not it comes out now and twenty twenty one. I don't know how much of a difference ultimately makes. Yeah i think a consumer reality want the content right but at the same time like like that could lead to. Let's see further down the line because they re stone this and didn't make any money back. They can't find another movie. That maybe would have been good. You know it's like an opportunity. 'cause i just i don't i feel like no matter. What kind of the losers in the situation as a consumer. So i i guess they do whatever the guy do. I'm with jeff. I just wanna fuck and see movies at this point versus starved for content or watch maranhao. We're watching cobbler to review public. Because no goddamn moves are coming out so tallboy me. Yeah the kevin. James super throw a people. Were probably yelling there. I'm sure there are there are other. You're looking pole shit right. I think you'll know we're saying to yet. A somebody like our perspective is kind of tainted by the fact that we rely on these temples to face over on podcast. That's a big part of. It is big comic book movies as talking about the big the big releases like for those listening. They double over on any small thing that we do in this pod. I mean that's just is what it is. That's just that's just what it it's the cycle how people consume like you consume the high hype then you consume the actual product and you consume the podcast and the talking about it afterwards. Then repeated just consumer goods to read other media But i mean there's there's obviously stuff that that is down the pipe in his obviously stuff still being released. I just wonder because you my perspective is is through the lens of like talking about it on a podcast which is obviously in the minority of americans right now. Now the you know majority though everyone's going to have a podcast in the next five we are the silent minority of white male podcasters and you will hear our voice the I'm like i'm. I'm wondering if like you know your average person sitting around just saying like damn really really wanna watch a new movie right now. I bet a lot of people are but to the extent to where You know they're willing to go out theater versus willing on hbo. Max i don't know but that's that's up for the theater The guest studios to decide. We always talk about it. But it's always worth like revisiting it because it kind of it kind of feels like it's different conversation every month with with lake. Just the timeline on on what know now and of course like With over the last couple of weeks with the potential in the hope of the back seen around the corner. Even though it's probably gonna take longer into the year to be widely distributed in all that stuff at least there seems like there's some sort of Like cloud clearance for theatres. Hopefully in in clearance for for this business. So i don't know it's It's tough at this point. I think that's the only thing you can say. It's because i get both sides of needing theaters and needing a student make the money. But also your veteran start stockpiling. All this shit and it's gonna only hurt them to not release them. It's going to catch up with them. You'd imagine you're going to have to do it. Just there's going to need to be one big domino nine imagine. This is a good candidate for. I said domino. So well. I think the other thing was like consumer behaviors is I mean if you look at the distribution patterns of how often people go to the movies. I guess i i would guess like your average person goes to the movies. Maybe once a month like i'm being generous a and that's kind of what the big temples rely upon. I'm just saying your average person right so like dump a whole bunch of one time. You know you're not really guaranteeing that people are going to show up the same way they would have in the past And then of course you've got the virus out there too. So yeah. I mean if you hold onto them in Throw them all out there. There's no guarantee that even if everybody was vaccinated like there'd be enough interest or changing consumer behavior for them to want to go see a bunch of movies if they released like. Let's say five big blockbusters in one month. You're just competing for a piece of pie. In that scenario. I think now will say but my my thing is Hbo max released to pay fifty bucks for it. The you know what i what what was. What was the movie. We paid a lot of money for a lawn. Muan was the big the big that one kinda just faded into the abyss and disney sit on their earnings call. They were very pleased with its performance. Maybe maybe no new. Maybe maybe they were pleased with this. Prepare putting a fortnight. If you're in important nine if you buy buy something in the store you get like three free months at disney plus fucking good bargain damn Moving on though. so let's just alongs begin a dc. Going to be in suicide squad to confirmed by james gone people send you could playing king shark upright right. That would make complete sense. Now be bombed visit him. He's worked with him to in guardians. Because right he was in guardians to or just to two and he was confirmed to going appear in in gardens three so i like that combination. I like him ending up in suicide squad. He's the perfect type of older actor to appear in the sort of movie. It's almost like now. I wouldn't say expendable territory but seemed like an old familiar face like that in the movie like this even if it is just voice and mercy king shark i love that i love that james gunn. He's got he's got a good voice to like. We have folks. We love the way slow. Sly stallone talks But he was like christopher. Walken is good voice. But if you put. Christopher walken is king shark. You'll is that shark doing the the christopher walken voice with an irish accent two years whereas slight sti- sly stallone is just like you're gonna like that slide stallone but i'm also buying a shark would talk like that. Yeah exactly matches up right yeah. I think he's perfect. I think is perfect for him. Still want him in to live action roles because he's he's an he's relentlessly beefy. For his age he is. He works at those videos. Someone instagram yeah him at the gym with that just leather skin built up body. The road shoulders pop down a little bit looks. Great i'm pro- i'm pro gear. The safeway view late in maybe late night like gear gear. But maybe just like if you're getting the h. g. h. or the testosterone treatments that you can afford it. You're you're at the go. Go forward. And absolutely i mean. I don't know if stories like some sort of agency each whatever's safe because there's obviously hollywood has a tool whatever. They're doing to mail like that whenever he's taking. You know what i mean something. That doesn't like shrink. Your heart to fourth this is. It's just an air filter me give me that shit. Uh-huh see i hope he's king shark. That'd be fucking w rat he. I'll be bundled finished with him. At this point space force for nude for season two net flicks i tweeted. Ll why some people said they liked it. I know a lot of people who've been in the military really like it because they say it's a it's a rare like very accurate depiction of kind of behind the scenes like intricate. Little things and i told her spec. That's pretty cool. It's comedy it's subjective. You like to. But i i. I was kinda surprised kind of surprised to got renewed But i guess netflix's has that has that endless bag so they can kind of do what they want. It was not not for me. He was not for me a lot of people. i think. a lot of people. I mean steve carell may maybe maybe couldn't open up a movie with him now. But i certainly think that people would get into committing their their evening time to watching a show with him if they see him on the streaming service show. Morning show is also coming back for season down. That's right that show the spent an unbelievable amount of money though they just the signed on. What's his name right. The guy from the from the patriot. Show what's hassan something. Some persona nausea scientists ten. I think to be the new person in the new league not lead the new antagonistic. Yeah i guess he is. He is going to be in it. Sure i'll watch that show again. That's see that's funny. Because i didn't like i can relate to. That was about a job that i had. I also hate wash. That show for because billy crude up by. No one's really good so we should on apple but apparently there's a show called ted lasso. Oh it's amazing. It's based off of the old. When nbc got the premier league and they were trying to hype up the premier league. Agean snake is play the character ted lasso in commercials and then years later. They just turned into a show. But apparently it's a very good show. So you i get the morning show from the standpoint that apple. Tv is like they just. They need that content because they don't have anything else but the of to give credit credit's due. Apparently ted lasts very good. I will watch it at some point But i i didn't want to shit on apple. Tv completely when there's a good show out there say big t since the best shows every he's not the reason i didn't believe in because is is a fascinating person if you don't know who big tears if you're gonna barstool fan it's we don't have enough time to explain that one But i i kind of question. I was like i don't know what can this really good like. How much can you. it's a commercial. It's like it was based off a fucking commercial but it'd be james's today is pretty funny and then people also said it's. It's very i want to say the either lcd. Twitter user already user said something like it's a very not twenty twenty show super positive and funny and that's it like it's just it's it's a breath of fresh air amongst like the the kind of stuff that we get now. Everybody needs to touch on something social. Yeah everyone who says it that they've loved it so you're another one. I need to probably watch a jay jason. Today kiss a livia wild now gone. That was surprising. This has been celeb- this has been celebrity order. The we know when was that. I don't know it's it's on the if don't follow the account. There's an account on. Instagram called the dumas. I believe which is it's pretty popular and they post a lot of now. They post a lot of blind items in what they call the t. hustle on the teeth. I don't know how much of it's real but this is real. I don't like sipping first celebrity couples. Because i think it's a little weird but like was a couple. Were thought they were cool. They're both very cool. People and i enjoy the fact that they were together. It seems sort of deal with blunt kaczynski. So that that kinda sucks damn yeah. Well shout shout to Bring home a jason. Sorry about your relationship. Your shows good quickly in that a just bring that one home. The last bit before another ad. Read chris pratt going to be in store love and thunder up for that at the end game day. Disappointment in their chemistry is so fucking good like it was only for a little bit really endgame in a little bit in orbit. Man their chemistry so awesome. I can't wait to see them. Screening gather again and with pure taika dialogue. Which is going to be great. I'm thor love and thunder. I'm very very and also we do have wandered engines coming in january. Now we do is officially one year content. I think being good for them. How immoral made the two most powerful people beings in the marvel universe. The most boring is still beyond me. Yes some decorative qualities doing really teased it a big time. 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Wears down the close fifty percent off when you enter code lights at american dash giant dot com David fincher speaking of four year exclusive. Netflix deal four hundred feet a lot of opinions over these last few days he did. He just went like opinion. Fart bobby far out all opinions. But we're format and interviews or the tweet him it's about joker should say about. He got super fucking miss. Miss his kotra super misrepresented. The joker joker. Well here's the headline. He's the headline. Is what i think. Taught phillips hates the mentally afford. It was david. Fincher says joaquin phoenix jokers. Betrayal of the mentally ill And and what. He said his quote was we. Read the exact quote I don't think anyone would have looked at that material and thought. Yeah let's take characters played by robert deniro who also joker in conflict them than trap him in a betrayal of the mentally. Ill in trotted out for like a billion dollars He's he's saying that. The film was about the betrayal of the mentally ill but he was quoted in all the headlines as say like the movie itself is a betrayal. Like it's a. He got a fairly. What was the marvel quote. Because i think the more he wasn't being he wasn't being negative on it. I thought that was like he was the editor. I found that straight like like i get it. Click baiting that's headlines. That's the juicy headline but that was such a. It's such an odd way to to misrepresent what he said. Our i was kind of surprised by that was the thing he said because he said something like an indirect thing about moral boy. Like you can't get something made if it's not like you can't sell lunchboxes about it or something like that. Yeah i could see that. We're selling these days. Did david lunchboxes But i know what you're saying. He was saying well. We say sometimes even though we will have carbon copies and oscar bait fair right. He's not wrong. Yeah well what what those playoff of is like. Obviously there's a. There's a large amount of people online. Who are very very Defensive of comic book movies Like the whole scorsese thing about you. Know the the comic book movies like inskeep was right for the most part of. That's the ford coppola to. Yeah i mean look i. I love the comic book movies. Like i don't know like a lot of whom i two are you with a scorsese says like i just. They're different thing right. Like it's i don't know for me. It's like the comic book movies. There's there's a lot of criticism that they're very enjoyable. But i think if you don't have any criticism for the comic book movies like just in terms of the content Like even simultaneously while you enjoy them because you are allowed to hold conflicting opinions in your head like as an adult like. It's okay to do that. But like i think if you watch those in you'll see the reaction the way people discuss them in like you kinda just or like as kind of fucking stupid like that's where i land the store love and thunder but also i know that lake. There's a lot of like fucking online that when anybody like criticizes them. They're like well All defended to the death. Or whatever. And i think that the whole should that spectacle around. It's the stuff i could do without. Yeah i think a lot of people when they read the headline or whatever. They immediately think. Wise person shitting on something i love. It doesn't affect them at all. But i think people on whatever into this the spectrum here land on as far as like regards with comic movies and blockbusters and all that it's it's important to take a step back and be recognized if your comic book movie fan like what they are the machine behind them and the same thing in the other side where you shouldn't act better than comic movie fans right like people can enjoy things for what they are. Yeah it's a. It's a two pronged thing i think there's i think both sides are at fault for blowing it up do something. That's pretty fucking annoying. Well in in in. There's just been this leak in. I think one of the worst things i felt like has happened. The last ten years is it. Feels like there's only one conversation that's allowed to go on at once Lately just just there's been this consolidation in a lot of it was like a lot of it was like you know through that funnel of online and just like you think about twitter. It's like a message board. The days like i grew up posting on message. Boards like you had to go seek out the message board. You want in your with a lot of like minded individuals in like the others drama in those communities and twitter is like what if we just take everybody from all these message boards and just fucking put them together and so what that has done is like i think a lot of the focus in like the coverage of reactions stuff is very heavily based on twitter reaction. Because that's an easy thing to do like you. All you have to do is look at twitter and then be a buzzfeed like people were fucking going crazy about this. On twitter in post to tweets. And you'd to tweets and it's still factually correct but in general. I still feel like there's like this this like there's only allowed to be one big thing i want. So it's joker or it's game of thrones going on just one thing that dominates the the culture i think. That's the unfortunate thing like even though enjoy comic book movies. It kind of feels like you know it's it's time for star. Wars baby was put down everything. And all we can really focus on is like star wars and terms and like a lot of that is not just the movie itself but the way the media is lay machine. Yeah yeah it's like okay. Well daisy wrigley's on jimmy kimmel and You know all you know like this and you all these ads and they just a blitz of advertising is on chiquita bananas and all this stuff. So i i like yeah like i think. There's a lot of criticism for comic book movies and probably going back to like what venture had to say. I still enjoy them. But like i'm also allowed to think that like i know like league net nefer society like it's probably minimal but i do think lake will recover from this and the way we talk about it and we'll move on to something else but like it does seem like everything's really consolidated. Just be like one narrowly focused conversation. Right gets the fucking gets. The clicks no different than what we fucking talk about it. We're just as much part of that problem. Is it's fun to it like it's fun to it's funded argue like that's that's why people love the internet like people fucking loved argue at the end of the day. That's why people do it. It's it's like you want to argue a somebody in that. That's that's like most of the internet like that's what it thrives on thrives on arguing and that's that's why like you can hire somebody like you know anybody from columbia journalism school and get them to write like a five thousand word article on while why the beetle sucked ass. And the point isn't that the beatles sucked is that like you know people are going to go nuts for that for one day anyway. i'm not like new observations. I'm just old. Maybe thing about fincher i think is a key. Didn't he just say complain but he noted that like he can't make my mind hunter season three. Because it's so expensive and netflix won't make it considering there's not enough people watching it was at the full reason you think you're i think you're right but i'm not totally sure like he. I remember when they said he basically more or less said right. He's like. I'm not making mindhunter season. Three it costs a lot of money and none of people are watching it. And that shows an exclusive netflix. Show so i don't know if he is re signing with them to do more stuff that may be a better price range or what but that was a little surprised anyway just because of that one reason alone but in fact i would assume that someone. That's more of an artistic filmmaker like fincher wouldn't be about conglomerate netflix's even though that could be totally wrong assumption. I'm i understand. I know people like mind. Hunter i noticed people thought pretty good. I'm happy century. Make it's fucking movies to our break to on break. Yeah no it's always interesting. Discussion gets clicks in. You know the thing is is like ma'am. I'm sure you guys are like bank. Jeff competitive type. You gotta be pretty competitive. I am not too competitive. Kim jong. You don't seem like do that competitive but like you know you're making like you know if you're a filmmaker actor whatever like you're probably pretty type a. Especially if you're a director in your competitive and if you have a netflix contract you knew you gotta be looking at like the shit that's on netflix. Like auntie. Donna's big ole house of fun australian thing or dash and lilly or The unicorn or whatever. I don't know if that's a netflix. Show but like you gotta be looking at it in. If you're david venture you're like they would really. They would rather sink money into another cartoon about a depressed tiger that smokes desire rooms. Then like my good good ash show. Like nah i think i would pay attention dad and probably complain. Yeah complain the manager again. I don't know how he operates and he thinks the two best shows on tv every the kaminsky method. Yeah prodigal son to say well. here's another. here's another director talking about things. Home director Christopher columbus said her voted director home alone. Reboot is an insult to american American cinema cinema said the reboots are just silly to me when i read about something called stoned alone. Though one with right reynolds they are going to do with ryan. It was at home alone movie stone. I thought to myself this is just an insult to the art of cinema making a comedy musical. No matter what film making my goals to treat it with the same respect that if i was making the godfather is not the gotha yet to treat it with the kind of respect in this idea of remaking things that already exist in are working. Well watch the original. Forget about it. It just never going to be as good. I i mean like i i look. I completely agree with that. I agree that a hundred percent. I think most people listening to podcasts would agree with it. at the same time you also understand why these remakes are made and it's not because it's not because they can't think like more original things to do is is the fact that they make money they have that built in slits slits hold on a second to christopher columbus. He's gonna pull our. You pulled the results. You get the receipts. He's directing the christmas chronicles two. That's he made fucking pixels like. Let's i know pixels original idea. Let's not pretend pixels was for the love of the fucking game mike. Let's i know it's not exactly the same but like yeah like let's Again home alone. One of my favorite movies saying with home alone to bobby very soon. I thought i mean like let's made rent. He directed rent a. Let's i hear there's a level of like all right chill. The fuck out. Bribery wants them. He wants to make stone her parody of home alone. Like come on. it's made home on. Where was he during that point. Yeah so i get what i'm saying. I think i kind of word. What a pickup on. Christopher columbus here is and i feel this way and i feel like i've said it on the podcast before anything. That is john hughes related or is touched. John hughes simply cannot be remade it just it just cannot be done they were. They were of the time there were so well done in. They're done in a way. That only john hughes could do in pull off with that sort of Just make it work that way and so the first bueller breakfast club and lot. You know all that stuff. So i kind of get that sense but also i feel like ryan reynolds is changing enough on this to like kind of not you know. It's not really even a remake. It's like just hormones. Like a piece of america american history. Now you know. It's a piece of our pop culture so like you're nodding to that almost so i don't know i don't know are falling eight different thing too because the no the the homeowner remake they were talking about making was gonna have ellie kemper rob delaney and archie. The kid from jo jo What do you call. Joe rabbit the the the funny kit friend and that is like an awesome cast. I love that. And i think it was not even going to be taking place around or least it wasn't supposed to be this while back. It wasn't supposed to be even revolving around the macau Mcallister family also again. I don't understand why he would shit his pants about bad when there's been four other home loans. That were moss three other hormones. That were incredibly bad. Well okay. i'll tell you what he's mad about this. So i mean like this is. This is deep cinematic history but so in two thousand one marilyn. Manson approached john hewson. Christopher columbus to make a movie called dome along loosen. You gotta you gotta finance the surgery. I'm having if we're going to make this fellow's gotta get one brother shilla short some cash lever does it to ribs. I i get what he's saying. And i i don't i get what he's saying but i mean i don't i don't know i don't know if i don't i don't know if one this is the this is the one to be going crazy about home. Five it was on watch. They've been alone for watch bad like where were you during this point i just kind of. I'm sorry jeff good. No i just think this it's parody. I get what you're saying but like to you've been you've been associate was like a lot of movies. That are kind of. Jad for the money like i don't i don't know just weird weird to me. That's very few people that you can actively say like have not only restate that they're very few people that you can speak on the sanctity of cinema In like listen to them and kind of be like yeah. I totally on board. Like scorsese like we were talking about like one of those people. He's definitely made a very mainstream movies. Solos releases but he's been doing it for so long as such a high level. You kind of kind of go along with that. Whereas chris columbus says up and downs but he hasn't he hasn't been completely original the whole time right. I don't know he's he's beaten scorsese's s tear like you can't even see your tier removed from this my friend from this conversation. Yeah it. it's it's like it's like it's like no trying to parallel with like football commentary. Right getting he's getting. Chris collins worth talking about like how well like Decay metcalf did something. it's like. Yeah you know when. I was a receiver chris. He's doing he's doing commentary on I on my brain's broke could deandra. Yeah i'm i'm just gonna i'm gonna i got this. I got this. Get out of jail card. And i'm just going to do for this whole analogy to the cardinals by the way are edible. Are intern tyler judgment. Also the intern for anus a new untold story. Good friends kaepernick of new pot and a dozen he is a big arizona cardinals fan. He's fired up useful. Fall you producer on that pod. Yes for you. You got your on show. Let's do it. It's basically it's basically clip show very heard their thing for next week. It's a tears felt loud funny next thing last thing. I i don't know i off. These discussions ever even mildly interesting. We bring this thing up. But i love putting this in the rundown five nine at freddie's will be delayed due to the games complicated story. That's was google five pretty is. Their story is still in active development but delayed due to figuring out how to adapt story. That probably means you should make the movie see. This probably is a good sign. Don't do it. I mean that's kind of the same thing. You kind of. Feel like the hasbro mattel. Cinematic universe is run into. He's got this brand name. Recognition people know people know gi. Joe the hard parts actually like adapting that into something that's actually watchable. And maybe there's a story in five nights. At freddy's there's probably something there. I was just always the of the understanding that it's basically like playing creepy pasta So i'll know i don't care. The story is a big challenge. Is the big challenge. You know five nine. If freddie should have been been easier because there are books. There's a lot of lauren. storytelling for video game. i think it has more storytelling in almost any other. But still the story goes down so many rabbit holes and goes down so many different directions. It's big choosing which park tell the first time out of the gate and how to tell been tricky. Sounds like you should make it sort of sounds like you're whiff and i got more from the quote here. He goes like when we started writing this. In december twenty nineteen we we spent about a month on it and we had two nights at freddy's but we got about august twenty twenty and due to covid production. Everything we only got two three nights at freddy's will be two to right up to four nights at freddy's by the end of the year so We just don't know if we're going to get to five takes another body off. I thought it was funny. I think that's i still think i. I think it's better than me. Trying to draw comparison. Chris collins worth earlier now dad. That was just a miss for news. Acid for new episode. Brought you in part by armor. Lock our data. Privacy is constantly being threatened. Folks sleet films hacked servers. Lost or stolen. Drives your valuable media files legal documents titles etc all being stolen getting into the wrong hands. People want to know that their content their valuables on their computer protected more now than ever and g. technologies armor lock encrypted envy emmy solid state. Drive is fantastic. 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You might just send you our armlock just to see you can unlock and send it back. I'd love to send you a text now of one locking it All right ryan flip. We interviewed him talking about a bunch of things from ken. Jax instagram account. Which was he's a big fan of one of my favorite questions. It was hilarious. Utterly shocked and ashamed immediately. maybe even who We have in common commit a comedian that we we like in common. It was it was fun interview. We talked to him here. It is joined here today by ryan phillipi. How are you doing sir. Talking big sky new show debut on abc. But other than that. what's going on. How's everything things are. Good man obviously strange times for us all but you know even going even beginning the process of doing press during a time like this is so strange like you know setting up the lighting ring and like abc and oprah a webcam and become do it yourself so much less wardrobe and makeup and prep though to have to worry about. That has to be your. I certainly appreciate that. But here's the funny thing is. I used to like doing podcast because you didn't have to care about what you look like now. Everyone does a video component with their podcasts. So it's sort of become like a regular errands now. You we were were too shabby people to begin with. And we don't really use video as much so you don't have to worry about that with a look however you want good thoughts quick synopsis of the show for those who don't know we'll talk about it. Private detectives cassie dell and cody. Hoyt joined forces with cody's estranged wife. Ex-cop jenny hoi to search for two sisters who've been kidnapped by a truck driver on a remote highway in montana but when they discover that these are not the only girls who disappeared in the area. They must race against the clock. This stuff the killer before another woman is taken. You've been watching. Maybe i don't know whether you're watching anything on. Abc the bachelor election coverage seen commercials for the show and been popping up Throughout the abuse november seventeenth ten nine central. Abc let everyone now why they should dive into a and there's a little bumper on the commercial. I believed that. I know people. I think big little lies in as well. Yeah while you've got you know. It starts with david kelly who has an insane Career track record in this industry. The amount of shows he's done the people have loved for the last twenty. Five years is pretty ridiculous But yet they're pushing the show. So heavily i think not only because it's a good show but it's maybe they're only show because you know we were we were actually i think the first big production associated with a us entity like disney. Go back to work. So there's really not a lot of competition right now in. It's so funny in la. I'm on so many billboards bosses and it's like it. Feels like it's the only show on television or the only show that is about to debut. Because i think it kind of is in some ways. But it's it's it's a really cool project and it's based on a it's based on a series of books by an author named cj box. The this season follows one of the books in the series to call the highway and essentially is about an abduction of of these teenage girls did then reveals like a whole network. And so you see the beginnings of that pursued in this pilot and a thing. That's really cool about it is. I'm one of the few males in the show it's it's very female centric in the most Sort of progressive way. I mean you know kylie. Bunbury and catherine winnick's characters really emerged as they begin to work together as the focal points of the show but the cast is really excellent John carroll lynch and brian garrity. These actors are phenomenal book for them around award time with the whole pandemic thing. It's interesting getting to talk to you about this because we've talked call people who've done things but not done things to the complete level of like now you see it where we're like your expectations going back to work and going back on set with everything in place now. How how different was is there. Anything maybe people at home like we'll never know of not like the horrors of obviously. You're still getting the a tv show but there had to be some tricky things to get around. No i know. I know what you mean and you know i've got that personality. There's a aspect of me. That's a bit of a weirdo. Where when people are out of their comfort zone when things are up ended. I like to see how they're put back together. Thanks any sunday. There was no fear for me. You know my kids are fully grown for the most part and you know. I don't currently have a significant other. So in terms of me contaminating the people. I didn't have to worry about that. My health is pretty good order. And so i was an when when production started going back to work there. Were there still are actors. Were refusing to go because either they have an underlying condition they have you know their significant other does for me was i was like i wanna see how they try to pull this shit off. You know like one weird thing is and this is this is what complicates productions today. If you don't have a lot of money so we did because the disney abc There's a lot of big money entities involved with this but that also means they have to protect themselves extra these corporation of that size so they really had seventeen extra crew members dedicated just to kobe. Safety okay so you're having to pay an additional seventeen people on top of the rest of the crew everything else that goes into production and a lot of smaller productions can't sustain that you know when you look at independent film right now. You can't take on if you have a two million dollars but you can't take on seventeen extra salaries so we were. We weren't in that situation. This was very protected. They immediately put in this infrastructure. Would it would it did do. Was it eliminated the social aspect of of Of of making film and television. Because we were really they had zones so they're zone a. b. and c. and you couldn't fraternize with anyone outside of your song You know there was no communal lunch situation. We brought our our lunches im- boxes. You know you couldn't go to crap service and get a snack ordered you know it. Just it definitely put a distance between in for instance It made it very difficult to get to know the crew because they're in full p. b. e. now we as actors were tested. Everybody's tested every two or three days. But even the crew are regularly tested had to stay in full ppe. So there's some people that. I worked with on this whose faces i never really saw and i gotta tell you. That's one of the more bizarre things about it here. You know once you've got onto the practical actual said and you start going doing the material it then. It felt relatively normal but we were asked not to They wanted to create some. What of a bubble and so we work going out to dinners. We weren't getting together for drinks. Cast you know and so it was a very solitary experience a lot ways so so the first two sets of the show are directed by paul mcguigan. Nfl mispronouncing names. He can digitally plenty it. Perfect and so he actually adapted another detective. show something. I think a few people might have heard it before. Gold sherlock holmes sherlock did four episodes of that which is arguably out. Say one of the best detective shows period and definitely the best. Last decade is earning maybe vibes. We can expect from that show in big sky. Paul's really interesting. Because he's one of those directors approach is almost like an actor in regards to the malleability in the million component to it like he. I think he really he did. A movie called lucky number. Sloven yourself at a high octane. Action tarantino vibe. The last movie. I saw his the start on jamie bell and Benning is could not be more opposite a approach or or in material. and so. i don't know that you can imagine. Assume anything from sherlock holmes. But i know what i saw him. Shoot an looked absolutely beautiful and You know the other cool thing about having a setting like montana you know. It's not been overdone on on network television or on television in general so the you know the the giant the mountains in the in the enormous trees that a lot of people don't get to see on a daily basis really the the montana becomes a character in the show. I think the idea of there being these hidden spaces and it's not overly developed and things could be lurking and there's that natural elements. I think that all kind of heightens the bud. Reminded me actually. Don't see the commercials. Wind river said another desolate landscape. Or in this case. More right than it wasn't when river So you mentioned john caroline susan this junqueira lynch was he the zodiac killer. Yes absolutely right. Yeah i mean in my mind every. Watch that movie and mike. They're hinting towards the feel like they're they're trying to edge at the end of it. By saying yeah. Maybe wasn't though this poor guy. I think partially because of that movie and other things. He's done anytime he's seen in a project people were like he's back. He's it's like he's he's now got one of those faces that you couldn't be a sweeter man I guess now it's funny. How people will get sort of typecast to some extent. I mean it used to be way more defined typecasting the notion of where your career could end. But now it's like you know people pick up and they're like that guy just doesn't look right but i wasn't a villain. But he he got he got. Mcdonald's swiped from under him by michael key in wants to is just as rioters. I've never in positive. They're never in good situations. Wait was he ray kroc or no no. He was one of the mcdonald brothers brothers. Yeah okay all right right. He was crock. Yeah that's right that's right. Dan heart attack in. Its so what about some of your other work as well starting with cruel intentions and grow intentions. Obviously i think would a lot of people know after it is is the step sibling. Love and that is now. I don't know if you're aware of this step sibling. Pornography is quite popular. Do you deserve. Maybe some royalties for that. How would you collect those. I wonder on that that. Would that'd be a shakedown or a process that i don't think anybody wants to get involved with Man i you know. I love that movie. I love the fact that it still holds up that it still finds fans that still has a life you know they almost brought it back as a series as a zicree. You're so ago. And i've had some crazy things happen along the course of my career. You know but one of them. They put cruel intentions back in theaters a year ago right before the pandemic gore to celebrate the twentieth anniversary. I mean things like that. Don't happen very often i mean. How often do you see a movie. Get put back in theaters even for a limited run or whatever. Yeah so that that kind of makes you feel good. Because i know that when i was beginning of my career one of the things that i wanted to do have like a a seminal teen movie that held up in like you know because i watched pretty in pink and the breakfast club and things like that when i was young. And so i kinda wanted to have one feels like cruel intentions. It do that and if we can figure out a royalties plan for you though. We'll figure it out we can. Hey speaking of royalties. you know. Like i'll see these cruel intentions t shirts and various like reissued posters and and i see them all over the internet. Now see all. These people will tag me on instagram with their cruel intentions t shirts. I'm like with my face on it. But i don't see a dime of the lawyers out man. Maybe that's our next job will start working on that so we're gonna take up. We'll find all that money on the heels of veterans days. well bring up flags of our fathers. Because that's a very interesting when we love asking this question anyone who plays real people now. There's there's no plane. Mcdonald's ray kroc all that like that's playing real people. There's another level when you're playing a very historical insignificant event Obviously like world war two or any nerves kinda going into that and again like on. The heels of veterans day is a. It's such an important thing of portray not just well but in a respectful manner d. Did that like when you go into that. Has that ever crossed your mind. Like man like take a break breaking an even deeper level. I had the son of the man. I was playing. Wrote the book onset watching me do the heroic things. His father did in the moment i was doing them and there were times. I would look over in a scene where i was played a medic. I played david korman. And until i was having to address fake victim you know. Get my my fingers in the wound and all the sort of thing and at the end of a take i would look over. And there's the son of the man playing with tears in his eyes watching me plays father. I mean moments like that or it's are are so emotionally rewarding and you do take certain care and specific attention. When you know you're playing someone who actually existed and also doubly for me the fact that my entire family served in the military. My dad was in the navy during get on. Both my grandfathers fought in world. War two One of them on the grounded berlin. Donald brown bronze star military charities have been always a big part of my life in a place that i do spend some time working. And and so that was one of the most special projects of my entire life. first of all. I'm working on a hundred million dollar world war. Two film directed by clint eastwood produced by steven spielberg. We went we were in iceland with this group of great guys where we all bonded so tremendously and That was one of those where at the end of it and even after seeing it. I'm like you know kind of achieved what i set out to a teenager in delaware who came from very little. That was one of the most rewarding even though the film didn't perform that well commercially It's it's one. It's one of the ones i'm most proud of and certainly was if not the most special experience top top three five. You mentioned clint eastwood right now. He is ninety years old. He's still directing he's still acting. Is there anything. Maybe you learned about him with all working with them that Explain that level of drive that he has. I learned so much that the correlate to is drive. I mean he is the real deal oftentimes in this industry. You meet people when you're kind of disappointed. They don't live up to the expectations or whatever. Clint kind of as as a dude supersedes the expectations. There's so many little anecdotes that i could tell you. We all worked out at the same gym in iceland including clinton and he gets off the bench press machine. I think it was buried pepper. One of the actors gets in his spot regular was he could move the the rack. You know like this guy and this was when clinton is eight early eighties late. Seven is probably seventy nine. Eighty one something like that you know when we shot the flag raising at the top of mount suribachi. The morning of they had a helicopter there to ferry equipment from the bottom to the top and extensively to take clint up as well and we were going to shoot at the break of day and all the actors we had our our packs in our gear and our our fake weapons and whatever were heading up the mountain and your comes. Clint with a camera bag over his shoulder and he was like five. That i'm not taking the helicopter. I'm going to walk is just. He's late he's just that guy and you know he does abide by certain Physical exercise tenants. Like i think he eat salmon once a day. That's one of his things. Swimming is a big thing of his He exercises five days a week. When he's at home. I think he swims every day and i think salmon was. What's a big one for him. I remember that coming up. I love it you just any moment of that. He could be in salmon. it works. I guess you know the. I've worked with a couple of these guys. These these legends late in their career like robert altman as well. I did one of his last movies. And you know. I think there's a belief amongst these guys that that this industry keeps them young and keeps them alive in some regards if they quit working if they if they stop that. That's going to be there. And i get that feeling sometimes in and you know i mean you. You didn't see it with some musical acts like rolling stones or whatever you like how the l. these guys keep doing what they're doing but i think part of how is they're afraid what happens if they don't you know i mean like i mean granted. Bruce springsteen is on ninety bruce springsteen be sliding around fucking stage and performed for forever. It seems yeah. It blows my mind man. If you watch footage of mick jagger i mean even i saw him live five years ago or so it's like i don't think i have that capacity alert. Want to go down the list on on on some movies here. there's one i want to mention. We're talking big sky today to debuts. Abc november seventeenth crash. Yeah i don't think we've well we actually we have. We've talked to what. I don't think we've actually pose this question. Crash always around the oscars won three oscars brought up in this public opinion. That it didn't deserve it's it's best picture win curious. That ever bothered you. Does that ever rub you the wrong way a little bit. Well first of all. I never took it personally. Because it's an ensemble it's it's not. It's not like my movie. I didn't write and directed at cetera. And i understood the criticism. You know. I thought it was a little unfair. I think that you know there. Is this idea that was like there. Was this beautiful beautiful movie about a male love story and brokeback mountain at. That should be celebrated. You know i. I have a problem with the whole words thing to begin with. It's not i don't enjoy it. I don't really pay attention to it. I think it's such an odd thing to measure one type of entertainment versus another. I think it so much of that is subjective and when you try to force people into an opinion that feels agenda base to me which i have a problem with. It makes me laugh that like it was a best picture winner and it just gets shit on people but what i will say is there's also a massive faction of people that i've interacted with over the years who absolutely loved that. So it's been. It's used in high schools in sociology classes. It's you know it happened. Absolutely has its merits and people had an emotional experience with it. And so i understand that whole line of dialogue. But i you know. I don't necessarily agree with them. That doesn't really affect me. Your you have a co star on that. show someone. We'd love dearly. We've interviewed before who i think would fit well on big sky. Certain brennan frazier. Yeah i don't know if you've seen the picture of him you're see the picture on the cowboy hat and big sky perfectly just hours after the producers. I'll talk to mr kelly. He told us actually that he I think it was that specific fit that he got at like a like a side like a store on the side of the road in new mexico because he didn't have any end and you just flew back like this is what i'm doing dead place. You are very very much a massive philadelphia sports fan. There are matt very man. I actually my. It's hard road on people. He's a chargers fan. I'm a cleveland. Sports fan so i think we're in good company here. The chargers break your heart eight minutes. Negate every fucking night dude. It's horrible we we record our pods on sundays so obviously the recording of those is right up against typically a chargers game and last week when it was the thought they won for is in it. I like we were in our group. Chat where i was about to send the link. I'm like fifteen minutes. Give him. We'll give him some time to to get over that i remember in the days before fantasy football which i'm pretty into three teams and i'm pretty decent at it too but in the days before fantasy if the eagles were having a season when they were one four one i would really probably take a step back from my Fan hood of the nfl but now because of fantasy you stay engaged. Even your team sucks. So they they really did a number on us. Didn't they know they figured out how to keep us carrying about a jets patriots game in a season like this. You have to watch and then you gotta you know if your team stinks to turn off the halftime highlights. 'cause then you just get irritated with whatever you're seeing from a loss but you already fan there. A couple of eagles movies invincible with mark wahlberg and then maybe the most iconic the garbage picking field goal kicking philadelphia phenomenon with tony danza. If so i'll give you three options. New philadelphia eagles movie or rebuke. One of those two movies. What would your choice. I mean you're working with disney. Now you could like dick for meal in the in the nineteen eighties super bowl. Run the movie with. Yeah i wanna. I wanna i do a new one where i play Dick meal and and i'm coaching the super bowl team from the eighties. That's i like. I was actually give you a little bit. A little insider info. It was my idea to do the vince polly story as movie. And it was taken away from me by walmer from boston and that pisses me off extra. 'cause i was like i'm an area guy i wanted but anyway all worked together on shooter become friends with mitzvah polly now Sort of in his family. I know his son daughter pretty well and they're great people but yeah. I tried to make invincible before market. Well he is very tied to like the future. Tom brady story. I feel like i could play good ataman so i think he owes you at least a role in that. Yeah i think so although a little getting a little longer than to play football player. That's why i chose her meal for myself. Good imagined. Tom brady moving. Got to be part of the scene where they lose the eagles too. That'd be pretty. Yeah pretty good too that that super bowl i mean it's it's weird to say that's one of the highlights of your life but sorry i waited. I waited forty four years for that to happen. My little boy. Who at the time my son. Who's now seventeen. I guess three years though he was fourteen or whatever like and he's an eagles fan. I didn't force it on him. He just gravitated I was like dude. You're so spoiled you win by the time you're fourteen either way for forty four years for that. It was one of the most exciting things that i've ever been in florida. So actually be interesting fact for you something. You may not know but you actually follow me on instagram shit. Who are you on account called sharon. Lift me oh. I love that account. That's yours that's my job. It makes me laugh so so much. So that the curse the curse element is is so great I'm a huge beam guy. Like you know i try not to be too serious on on social media at all because i think it's it's shouldn't be is really serious but i'm involved in this group chat on instagram called the mean luminosity and it's like a lot of the best guys out there. Should had steve's in it and you know there's Tanks presented and a bunch of people and then there's a couple of famous guys i guess like myself and john mayer's in it and but yeah so like sometimes i'll get to see the memes cooking up in this group chat before their stowed upon the world and it's so fun rewarding and sometimes i will have an idea and i'm like my my pages in out all re post memes in my story has been on create them necessarily but if i have a funny idea for me i'll give it to that group and then i'll suddenly see it come out on one of their channels and i take a lot of pride from that. It's like a mean underworld going on. We don't even know about that. Yeah that's incredible. Yeah i mean. They're all in their. Let me see. I can find john. Mayer let accounts was very shocking. Woke up one day. And someone's gain who john mayer follows. Even as a i was i was very much not aware of that. And and he's got a great sense of humor and he really loves Memes to the very online guy. Yeah okay so. The people that are in here are dr gray. Fang gucci gameboy middle-class fancy nathaniel. Knows should steve. Sunnyside tank sinatra. It's legit two billion followers between. Yeah yeah and so. I'm a proud member of the meam. Aluminum wow incredible. Yeah the the share left me account is is is cursed and enough or every now and then it would have to get the for me. I can't like i can't the tick talks. Ken jack finds can't look at sometimes. I my sense of humor is dark and silly with the side of intelligence and so i the weird or something is my favorite comedy. Stuff is all all comedy of the biggest. Like tim heidecker fan. That's talking to the right people again to. I'm the biggest on cinema. I cook every episode at least three times. I'll put ever oscar specials. I'm having trouble a night. Where i can't sleep or a little depressed or whatever like i'm i'm slowly finding my way into their world is well like i was. I purdue i paid money to help. Produce the last oscar special no way yeah and i was there on set for the whole greg joker killing everybody i was. I was sitting there dude. That was one of the most surreal. And nobody's gonna care that we're talking about this because nobody knows about it. But it was a crowning bugging achievement. I well to tell you how much of a fan. I am on cinema. Whenever i go to las vegas we go to california. We spent two or three days in california and we drive and we make it a point to drive victorville to make sure to go through all the stops old town victorville yup. That's incredible. I did not. I mean that might have all the things mentioned today. Movie won an oscar on tv effect. Got to produce use the cinema oscar special. Well i recently was on tim. Duggan vicks podcasts office. Hours and we talked about it. We talked about the fact that i was there. I put up this this. You know a couple of thousand dollars to help produce it. And i'm like i asked him during the show i can. I say that i was a producer. Put it on your wikipedia in and he he to back in the philly he just did a. He started singing over the old action news the other day. One of my favorite things. I've seen that is the best news theme hands will ever exist. Oh my god man. Okay so i guess next. Next time we talk. This could be thirty minutes on average. I'm ready honestly. I would do that anytime. I would because first of all. I'm kind of afraid that they're not going to do anymore for a while. Because there's a big shake up at adult swim and they're they're like so. I might have to finance the next season known group. If you need any help let us know. Let us know we would absolutely love it. Wow that's incredible. I've made my day big sky. Abc november seventeenth. I'm sure it's five. Bags of popcorn. Worthy maybe bagger was a set of handcuffs. Thank you so much ryan. We appreciate it. We'll hold on. Don't care guys right. All right executive right i was. I was stunned when when he said he likes weird comedy in my head. I'm like i'll be kinda funny to you. Mentioned tim heidecker and that's the first name out of his mouth t. Tim heidecker the on cinema fan. I was like holy shit. The fact that he produced the oscar special that blew me away whenever an actor says that. I assume they're going to be a gallic weird comedy. You ever hear the office like throw. That showed it so funny. But like i agree with you when i when he said. It's like a name like tim. Heidecker being his his idea of comedy is like this. He gets us him our best friend now producing on cinema. I was even if he really takes that over like he says in the interview like please call i will. I will do anything. I'll fucking move the cameras with the quit. The podcast just work for a man You wanna talk about paul mall. Cop do so much. There's so much to talk about. There is there is no. They're deathly is. This is long of notes as i've ever taken for a movie i've two notes so you are going to have to carry this one. Can i connect. I come up with a really thought provoking questions. We gotta dig deep on this one. But i don't even mind my thought. Provoking question is dash nine. Eleven kevin. Okay let's let's get out of the way. I tried to get us to not chat about this and the group tro couldn't resist i. That's how i remember. I remember things about the movie. I had to say that you said the biggest thing. I totally forgot nine. Eleven kevin was in this steve residency. It's really so it's a really outdated comedy style that he's doing too. I gets felt that. But it's like the. He felt like the dollar tree. Joel mchale was doing the whole like joel. Mchale astle thousand nine now. That's but it's outdated now be movies. Outdated yeah but it's like it's like the joel mikhail from community like in two thousand nine or like even the kind of jomo kale persona that he had on the you know. They carried over in the community. And just that really biding funny asshole ish way like he tried to replicate that and it just didn't work because yet joel mchale but i feel like you don't really see that as much anymore. Homes are dated except for one scene. Where the guys says. I have a lot of stuff from amazon wishlist. As like what the fuck in two thousand nine some feet baby. Two thousand nine amazon getting a a widespread shopping reference. Let me get cool. You have a kitchenaid stand mixer in your wish list like everybody else everybody in the world. That isn't willing to bear in that three hundred dollars on a stand mixer. So jeff like okay. Let's see so for some reason if you don't know. Paul byrne mocha spoiler alert. A single suburban father played by kevin. James works a mall as a security guard to make ends meet and he takes a job very seriously. Even the most was colleagues and customers. Don't as approach. Paul gets his moment to shine when santa's little helper shut down the mall. Shut them all down to take hostages including his daughter and we will go into that scene because it is it's art. It's the scene which they take over the mall is is a is a work of art He realizes no one knows that place better than he doesn't. He mounts his trusty steed segue and goes to the rescue which by the way the entire movie. The entire premise of this movie and it getting made is that it is funny to see security guards on segues. Enzi the entire fucking premise of this movie. Was this ruin things from all security guards for the rest of eternity. 'cause they're just referred to as paul larks now Like this this had like the out. Okay i i don't does not. I don't like this movie. I gave it a twenty four hundred and my score. Won't be changing henry watson while this movie call me like what i'm saying cultural impact. It did impact. Because that's just what you say when you see muscular ceo paul blocked kind of of have made that reference on producer it. It's not like a world ending. Adam sandler movie but yeah it's it's statue the reference the I give it a fifteen hundred. It's an absolutely. It's an absolutely horrible movie. Don't get this. This is a terrible movie. I i don't the deer is just. It's horribly outdated. Not just from the sense that there's like a brook stone at the mall. I mean maybe there still brooks down. There's a t- von there okay. You know you're not gonna see a t. bone anymore but it also it also tries to do some things that it was a little late to the game on. The the the soundtrack is all dad. Rock which i love but just a bunch of classic rock songs one after the other but then they tried to do the whole. Dan like five years too late with the guy doing the karaoke. Like the we're looking do karaoke. It's just like that sort of stuff that feels like that Like the dying breath. And we've talked about it before like that that you know the zero. Zero's comedy just doesn't there's some like super bad but but typically it feels off now. And i part of it's because this movie is very mean spirited. It is very mean spirited movie in in non the funny way right. Because like i'm not i'm not. I'm not getting a moral panic about it. But the entire thing is premised off of kevin james bond character being a effect Loser and that's the whole thing. He's fat guy. He's a loser and he's door but he has a heart of gold And that's just not the that that you know feeling for a while like that sort of like okay. Let's pointing laugh at somebody like worked for a lot of people movies. But i i i. In some instances. I feel like we've moved beyond that. And that was the part that feeling. It aged the worst for me from that standpoint. Fat guy slender agree. I think it's funny. Thing is we all mandel affected ourselves into thinking that. Nfl it wasn't. It was a fake. And i think. I think the reason for that is because of observing report. Obviously absolutely different import has fair. Dallas festival observer. Report like if you remember. I think i said. I said privately to us before we were watching. I thought. And let's say the discussion on the scene. I don't want to talk about it yet. I thought there observing port when they took over when guerrillas. It was Ray liotta right The cup whatever we are when they took over the mall. I thought the skateboards and bmx tricks for that movie. So we wanted to report of my make up the fucking bmx. It's this movie very much. This this movie is like extreme sports. The movie but that was one of my first notes to. Here's the thing with paul large. This is that. He's just unbelievably pathetic. That's the joke. But it's not even like like a redeeming like no. He's there's no point in this movie where am i. Oh that's what a nice moment it. Just oh he's he's just pathetic the whole time but it was like charles said words. It's not even like a charming level of pathetic. It's just a oh you suck level pathetic. and it doesn't even really get redeemed in kuwait. Just oh he's he's utterly pathetic but also is smart enough to outwit all these these hijackers and i think the problem with that is that we've happy madison. I think they don't give a shit if you're not a good actor. They just they as long as you try really really hard. They don't care. And god bless kevin james because he fucking tries really hard and it's it is so evident in the physical acting like the drunk scene is so bad that dancing comfortable in this behind it. It's just it's so it's awkward in a bad way. You know what i mean. Yeah it's it's Awkward and a good way to meet. Meet the meet the fockers or media or whatever were that's just than the cringes the the the you know. That's that's the humor. The movie is the situation. He keeps getting himself in. But you know what they tried to go for here. I think look compared to like an appetite. Movie where i guess death rogin character and knocked off where he's a piece of shit at first but he as redeemable qualities in the has some level of ambition. That's there in the experience in the movie Used to place where he's a better person by the end of it and we don't really get that paul bore. That wasn't really the intention. The you know the joke was that. He's a noah an overweight guy can't make the the police force because he's hyper glycaemic. His daughter from a sham marriage that his wife left him. Four and women don't want to date him because he's a mock-up mean-spirited from that way like and not that that's overly mean but like that's the joke right and that's that's the premise of the movie. It's a fat guy a segue And i find kevin james to be i think. Have gyms fine have no problem with kevin james. He plays the show up very well. It's just over the talk. Show your king of queens. Great great schlub show does a great show. Logging king of queens. This is just like over the top while you're saying with having drinks and like The the treadmill game in the arcade Just didn't even try to make. They could have gone dance dance revolution. They didn't even try to make that fucking real game. I i have never seen a treadmill in arcade with real live footage corresponding to the events on the screen. Just absolutely not chance no chance it. It's just. I don't know how to explain it. It's like there's some. There's actually some moments when i watched this. I expected like maybe one or two left. There was a few more. Like i left it more than i thought i would. But i'm still like my greatest the say my my initial greeting was twenty to one hundred staying exactly there But i definitely will say. I is funnier than i remember it. Being in certain parts in that process do with i would say the supporting cast being pretty decent but and complementing Kevin james well but man. A lot of that is really tough. A lot of the movies very tough to rewatch the weirdest part to me though. Is them getting the dollar tree and a ferris game amaze yes this show glee and that's no offense to jayme amaze but she i mean she. She is very similar to an affairs character in the sense that she's a good person whereas again affairs is on affairs his character was not a good person but they kind of like served that same role to to Like interest or unattainable love interest. The funniest part of the entire movie is is win. The the fake security officer does is his turn and he's talking to jim as characters like surprised news like what's even more surprising is i'm the leader would fantastic exposition. I would be like actually. The first surprise was more surprising now if found out. You're the bad guy. I don't really care what your hierarchy is in the bad. guy hierarchies. Yeah they knew him but it is weird. Because did it like the premise was so stupid at time that everybody knew this was stupid. And i i kind of feel like this. Set the tone for the next decade of happy madison films Not that happy. Madison was making bangers to begin with. But like certainly this was going from the rob schneider movies of the hot chick or whatever to this seemed like a natural extension except like this premise was just with the hot chick was like fucking like. That's stupid to a level you can't comprehend. This is just so normally stupid that it's boring by the way. If you've never seen the sequel she divorces in like immediately as days and this means that that's the mean-spirited part just can't give his due to break and we're supposed to laugh at that and maybe you did laugh at that but that's just not that's not funny. He's a fat loser. That has no friends. Ugly he has a shitty job and he's he fulfils every stereotype of a security guard. You could ever want. Isn't that hilarious. Let's laugh at him. It'd be you might be saying. Maybe he's confident as job. he's not that either. Nope falls as backwards into winning. Know what what the the hardest. I laughed in. The movie was was nine eleven kevin. When he made him he just popped in when he said. You'll you okay. I laughed at that what i heard his voice and then he said they were talking about him being a pen sales and he goes. Yeah and i just want to camry spot a camera i get out. Now is a good wind delivery. Very funny i thought that was good. Otherwise i didn't laugh at anything else in this movie and i can't really also the the yet you had to love You wanna talk about fucking dollar store characters. But the biggest dollar store character in this entire fucking movie was the the knockoff mccormack cop. I thought that was fucking eric mccormack for a second. It took me like a triple there's more suspension of disbelief in this movie than any fucking star wars movie solely based on the inability of them to not catch him on their bmx equipment. Like they never catch them on their bikes or skateboards they can do par core from the third deck of a mall down to the bottom in three seconds. But they can't catch him while he's standing in front of him with a gun at one of the stores now look. I'm not asking this movie to like to recognize physics and everything. It's fucking paul block but that blew my mind. I don't remember that. I'm like man. He consistently gets away on. This segue always out running them. And let's say now. The most ridiculous part of the movie actually was the fact that the henchman were all extreme sports athletes. They did par core. Which with our core was the most obvious. If you know the movie was made in santa watch you would go okay. That was made in two thousand eight or two thousand nine parker. Like you know exactly what it was running around the healy's or something to that's what we're looking for here. Was that the highest risk to reward ratio of any heist and cinematic fucking. Why didn't they wait. It's like the The the south park burger king heist. Were they holding tire. Townhouses for burger king. We're going in armed. This advanced operation to maybe get seventy five dollars credit card numbers from this mall bank in them from all the got one hundred fifty. We go three hundred stores in this mall You hit these fifteen and get their their credit card away then we're on small laminated sheets of paper. Know yeah yeah he he he got he got him like stores to rob laminated at fucking kinko's and then laminated them and handing them out to his his fellow high stairs. Yeah but a ball to close the keys security guard. What was the point of being as your security guards. Just wait for them. They have a fucking chief of police on their payroll and they couldn't think of a better heist bad. Santa showed it right there just waiting for the wall. The clothes you had a guy on the inside and you were you. Were hold your shooting up. The you're firing guns in the mall. Two dozen the inside and again. Why go after the mall. So many better targets. I want you to go a need you to go empty out. The doors at arab stall Also found two hundred dollars. And i love how like the the big bad guy thing they did. Is the cops. Approach the rear of the mall and they let off one flashbang and they go. We got him and then they smashed all the security equipment is if they would just never return again. There's like they scared away for good. The entire back side of the mall was all clear. Now i did like this showdown the rain for implants the best. Yes did they actually show the rainforest cafe. Wouldn't they didn't have the rainforest cafe brandon. They're note did when they show explode or whatever on the outside from the point of view they show the big brand some pretty sure slim advertising actually filmed at the burlington mall in burlington massachusetts. Yay reinforce caffeine's not there anymore. We had a couple of people mentioned that brought back memories of other weathering force. Catheter jit okay. So yeah wild anchor stores. I'm kind of north and prior mark order role for him. Never been to a parliament. They what else. I watch it through the credits and there was an ending part. Which made me laugh. Or just says especial thanks to and then in big bold at the bottom. The city of boston which is very funny. Someone said paul having a daughter that he had sex at some point which perhaps the least believable part of his movie. Yeah s out after three strokes. Such a fucking loser. He's he is you are you. You could make a really good argument pound for pound. He's the most pathetic and be character of the twenty first century. That's a of pounds to oh would have made the movie like better if they would have made him like not pathetic in some ways. Like if he's unlikable he's in bonn likable. Everybody get control of your own life dog. Like at least. Seth rogan's characteristic like they were likable because the movie was supposed to be they were they were shitty and they didn't like this like you could tell. They wanted you to like him a little bit. But he's such an ass sucking on a jolly rancher always clapping cheeks so it doesn't pass out. Yeah he just he just a like. Where's the seth rogan character is a fucking horrible asshole right at home more. It's a good guy. He's just a soy soy often on them. The physical mastermind. All those losing all these slayings from twenty fifteen now that have learned in the last. He's it paul. D do duma ball. It's just so hopefully wanna read your segue. Yes dear jack paul. I bet you that exists somewhere. We could find one. I think that was the thing that was most shocking to me. I think you're right. It's just that he is just so fucking pathetic and just absolutely zero redemptive things whatsoever about him no no turn the him him just Slavering the fucking peanut butter all over the pie. Sloppy joe joe like they truly is. He's one of the most fetig movie characters i've ever seen talkin. Loser goes in the writing process of this movie. Or they're like okay. Mic so paul. He's garage door opens and out of the garage door. He comes where your helmet and segue looking like a total doofus riding on the segue and then they're in the room like yet man. He looks like a doofus there. That's a good scene. I'm not done yet on his writing. The when he's riding the segway this little karn terrier runs after him bites him in that. He runs over the dog in in heavily. Implies kills a dog until the dog yelps their best in the writing rooms like as a little much. Why did get scared by the dog. We will use on the segue looking at doofus. Do you remember. I don't remember if you reviewed this movie or just watched the trailer. I'm pretty sure reviewed it but there is like some chinese movie called like fart cops our fat cop or something like that buddies review that fat buddies fat buddies as it so i watched this movie again. It is like this reminds me of like a trailer for like one of those crappy like foreign buddy cop movies that we'd make fun of it for looking so bad. That's what paul is. It's a it's like that level of dumb humor where it's just they. They really had no expectations set for the audience whatsoever on believable. Pall mall cod. Unbelievable fucking paul. i just i do. I do love the your script. Your script amendment page page thirty three paul bar an imprint looking looking like a doofus like shit loser so paul blurt of he's in the mall and this heist is occurring in. He's in a makeshift for some reason. Not sure how. The arcade makes money. But they're games there and it's to the other nine su. So was he playing playing guitar hero. Baby like it's looking like a real denies in rock band is detroit rock city by kiss At least it's a song by the best. Kiss member paul stanley. We're going to give him that much they're just and then they. Bmx parker their way in the. Isn't that the bad guys in the beginning of the other guys right there. Par- bad guys that stole the diamonds or whatever the opening thing that Danny jump off of. Yeah there's kind of a in right. They should have gone further with like just being dated at the time and they had a scene where the the lady henchman talks about. What all their colored bracelets mean that moral panic like your children are wearing bracelets that symbolize Hand job in the back of camry. That's lime green or some other comments. I mean some people do like this movie They've always thought it was funny that the us bmx bikes skateboards and park core Said i know movies garbage but there is something about it that whenever it's on tv. I have to put it on. There's nothing really particularly funny about except for maybe paul's boss trying to come up with zingers. That was okay. I i think it's still enjoy 'cause i like malls and so i like being cinematic in that mall setting i. I did enjoy watching this again. I will say that for no reason of it being good but because i found new things to laugh and make fun of. It's weird because it's not in the territory of being so bad. It's good at all but i think it almost looks back to your original point of the being culturally impactful because watching it with the cultural impact. It's head viet means or whatever. Just it has the name notoriety behind so rewatching with that lens does make it slightly more enjoyable than the original time. Yeah no i in most people know who paul is exactly. Yeah she's alka. Yeah kevin james character. He's the fucking needs. The fucking mall cop. Paul blurt what he is. Palmer bar baby palmar. Anything else on on paul balart. Pulse chartres hal. Yeah fucking roasted. Got his ass. You fucking god him yeah. I'm sure they didn't name the name. Blurt purpose to contact with other things like far or chartres her. You know any any other things. Fat people due to the eyes of hollywood which is like the word like. That's that's the thing that leg is mean-spirited is like the fat jokes is. I don't know. I just. I don't like him. I mean like. I think like in the fat bastard. The time i was fifteen. Like paul blurt being fat is not. It's not funny. And i'm not. I'm not being overly sensitive. I'm just. I'm not offended by it. I just there was a time where that played is funny. And i don't think of places funny anymore. And i don't think it's people being offended. I just think we've evolved beyond the point where we're like okay. You're writing characters fat. That's not inherently funny. A lot of people have weighed issues. Got at least. Just go a step beyond where. That's not the only point of emphasis for that character's characterization or whatever it's funny because fat brain goo brainwork good. We're a little bit beyond that just a little bit. Maybe maybe. I'm giving too much credit to hollywood. I don't know. I'm not trying to be sensitive about it but you know it's it is what it is. It's a relic sure aireed buried in the litterbox of time. What else anything else. this movie. what was I guess the the thing that bothered me the most about this movie was steve. Reynoso rented nine. Eleven cattleman kevin. Try and say his name. I just love the. I mean i don't. It's nine eleven kevin. I don't feel bad associating him with that at all entirely of his own doing. What was the restaurant chain. He's doing commercials for things right. Yeah yeah that's right. I that we talked about things and we. I cannot overstate the amount that seeing him make something. Feel two thousand and ten to me. I just yeah. It and i know he's been stuff since then and like i do think like he deserves another shot. Know what you said. You'd probably don't lie about it. But people made fun of him for it and like its move on so give him some grace or whatever but it still is kind of funny seeing him in this big of role in this movie. Where like i saw him pop up today in this big role like i'd be shocked if i saw him a small role. I wouldn't but like to be like this front and center in this movie which is straight up. Fx in two thousand nine type. Shit true. You get a lifetime contract. I'm sure with effects until the whole nine eleven thing came signed the deal buffalo wild wings. Book were pretty lenient strict. Don't lie about where you were on the morning of september eleventh two thousand and 'cause we had a very strict strict clause as as as long as there's no lies about where you were on the morning of september eleventh two thousand and one then you should be spokesperson for the next two decades. All you gotta do is not lie about where you were on the morning of sept day. Beautiful sky faithful. Tuesday morning sitting there. With the vein. Both teams to sweating profusely. We're good goes friend. He's twin towers. What a moron dude. And now he's doing movies with fucking what's it called. He did the avengers. A parody movie where it was yogurt played by shawn michaels steamer. He's fake batman man. Something or fart man or something. I swear to god. It was a farce adventures for some of justice. Or something right fuck. What was it The measuring like something like blade runner. It's like the void. Comp test detested prayers unless you like turtle. It's tuesday morning or tuesday morning to where we're tuesday morning you have failed. And he's just sitting there like fucking k. or ryan rank awesome. Just god dammit. Oh he was. The michaels is incredible master yoga and it was a jo-john adventures of justice farce wars. And i it was. It was incredible master yoga super-bat which was nine eleven. Kevin and simon. Rex played dark jokester and beavering and emperor purple guy. I feel like we should review that on yeah i. I don't think we would have reviewed that if we were living in the non covid nineteen time line but the time when it's been altered so much i i don't know what reviewing simon rex movie in twenty twenty. I i would love that. Actually we can do it. Why not fenders of justice not Anything else i think i. I think we're we're full. don't call. I tweeted out a picture of him with the words pathetic over his face loser. Damn here roasted our boy just to do the void. Calm me. i'm steve tuesday blue skies. Somebody replied saying take. That guy takes out tot and bobby kind of alike now pathetic. Guess sucks adler a loser. He i mean that's just that is like that's that is the problem with the movie. Alert stinks okay next up. We're do a draft. We're gonna be drafting best best mall thing. What did i put best of shopping malls draft. We're going to have to do a lottery. that's important here. Do you guys have a lot on your mind that you wanna make sure on your team you have. Some unique picks you think get a little a little primer before we get into this few right. I just regular ones mostly hunting. I get i get some things. I think them all real special all right. Well here we go. We'll set up the rain trill. Ken jack i was telling one of us that worked in more right. Yeah i did. My job was not in a mall. Okay here we go the mall. Gnc you just can't see this whatsoever. Here we go. Randomize audience myself ken jack and then trill rat. Here we go. Audience gets first pick good for them. Audience i and this is the one that they wanted the most easily this this won in a landslide. They wanted food court samples. that's so broad. I think that's strong. No i'll let them take. You can't just pick food court you know. Yeah but those words samples. I think the i picking things that make them all special. Okay yeah i mean don't be wrong. I'm definitely gonna pick probably five stores if a big stores. That's fine yeah Okay yeah that's that's a big one I'm gonna go with with pretzel store. So that's my number one. That's that's the thing i associate. most with. Malls pretzel stores the smell of pretzels fans wetzel pretzels or anti ends being high. Say that word pretzel. Factory philadelphia pretzel company. If you're a philadelphia person see. I'm going. I'm going pretzel. Stores a ken jack. You have your first pick around one. I'm going to want to win this. Vote so i'm going to pick spencer's Great most store you go in there. I would go in there. Every time i went to the mall never bought anything there once so much as once i bought runnings. They're never gotten ironic. T shirt never got a prank thing. Never got a beer. Bong never got dildo never got edible underwear never bought a single out from spencer's i've been in there. Upwards of fifty tops never once loved it. What did i buy there. I think about fake glasses or something. There and i think still cited dildo from transformers t shirt. I believe that was the weirdest selection of shit. I love spencer's spencer's was fucking absurd. They've yeah thinking about being a buyer for spencer's no you just fucking. They scrolling through twitter all day. Just trying to be like okay. Like what are people gonna like next trill. You have two picks in last week around one for around two sure. I'm in pick a a an over sized glass elevator in the center of the mall is one and a half stories. I never got to take one of those before. We're big mall elevator now. None of the malls in my hometown had elevators like that. There's a shitty elevators that no one was to take you. Just take escalators. I see a lot of the malls like their more. recent malls. try to replicate that old feeling by having the big escalator in the middle or the big elevator in the middle. And i never used to get on the elevator until i had a baby and had i started taking those. These are fascinating because they they obviously carry you between floors but like an go. A whole lot of distance right know but they always their structure. You have this little courtyard area. Maybe have a children's play area. You have your little like events thing out in front of it. I don't know. I would always seem in movies. But they were never in any of the malls in anywhere near where. I live among out there was i think greenacres might have had one. But that's like out towards the city's not the malls al-bass all my mall stuff on a couple malls But mainly the west farms mall for those listening in connecticut. The west farmers mall in the middle connecticut Used of a massive fountain and then like like a funnel pool in the middle. It took that out but it was next to a elevator The elevator in the lake. Line mall in austin cedar park area. Not that great but i. that's that's the elevator. I'll think of west farm mall all my picture based off the westfield bayshore mall and also a little bit of roussel field mall. I do like my in california for a while. I get to show up at the really fucking boozy malls in southern california like fashion island South coast plaza. Those are like the malls to go to a set of king of prussia and mall of america but i Yeah based off old full connecticut. Mall my my mall my platonic ideal of a mall. Woodfield mall in schaumburg illinois. Which sounds good. That's good with new. Without a doubt is the greatest american mall ever made now. It isn't the highest end mall. Rights you talking about like south coast plaza. Jeff is like super high and mo as all as all the stores ignore a park in dallas super high end Would field has a nordstrom and they have some nicer stores but they also have like the w woodfield at one point was the highest. Wasn't the biggest mall but it was the biggest mall by leasable square feet for retail. Did this mall. Sick is again. Oh my god this is all fucking moving stairways. Like harry potter something would feel. It's not like an escalator. No they're just they're catwalks and stuff. It's really very cool mall. I if you haven't seen it look look at pictures like would field from the seventies or whatever it's really this is awesome. I want to wish like this growing up. Oh as a pf. Changs right next to the entrance fucking for For my second pick. I'm gonna take in anchor store that You you wholeness be too complicated to explain. You know sometimes when you go to a mall. That's on the hill. And like you walk into an anchor store on like one level and then like you have to take the escalator down to get to the one down. That goes down the hill. Yeah we all know that that feeling for some direction you know. We can't put that a graphic. I'm gonna take i'm gonna take the weight machine outside of the gnc wasn't even outside the in the gnc. Well it's like they got rid of it. It's like an alley side doorway. Yeah it's like the gnc was like when you get people come into the store like dirty and they got rid of their as mother because they realized it wasn't doing shit now so dumb. Nobody was using it. Babe i gotta go jade. Cdc much the guy. The guy who only weighs himself at gnc can we. We have scale at home babe not the one year old handles. Gnc that's the body we'd do. That's body chester bmi. On that the same thing. Yeah my next one. I'm going to pick sarkouh japanese food so when they said free samples. That's why i was like the reason. I wanna pick sarkoui's because they always hand out little toothpick chicken teriyaki right out in front. It's fucking delicious. Would always it would be the dumbest fish because they with that every time and then just buy whatever the regular standard combination which just ninety pounds of rice and like ten pieces of chicken. And it's so greasy nasty but god damn was delicious so good. I love sarkouh. Haven't had in a long time. Though the nother ball. I liked the newport center mall in jersey city. They have popeye's and they frequently give out free samples of like half a tender from popeye's. That's wish mind that it's tough to beat that's our that's the vets. Go food court mall. Food court and newport senator city you gotta taco bell burger king of pop is a panda express mcdonalds right downstairs. The mets kind kind of everything chick-fil-a to that's tough to beat that kind of like that's as good as it gets mall food court. I'm going rainforest cafe half the rainforest cafe on all balls. Nice tweet tweet. Kennedy's quote the pathetic picture. Report said fucking loser stands out. They're not happy with us. I know some crazy. I've never been to a rainforest cafe not once in my life and they're not just in malls others exist. But the one i knew growing up was huge. Fucking deal was across this giant like wheel sculpture in the west arms. A big deal on that should open. It had the animal out front little pond. It was it was a. He was a huge thing. And then there's also I know there was one not in the chicago mob and there was wondering another all this small here in paul balart chicago one close. That was a big deal right the rainforest cafe. Oh yeah the the one that was by the sports authority. Nine dairy twenty five story authority but the rain forest cafe. If you're mohana rainforest cafe was fucking awesome. Audience back to back. Picks number two. They want the massage chairs in the mall. Yeah bedbugs central rose that nasa slot but generally our poise like i that i do think about malls when i think about shares that i've row threatening those are the two things happen to my mall. Just the guys sitting there eyebrow threading everybody with f. lie store yeah for your entertainment. Faa rules for so many reasons. I think number one overall is that there's not a section fox skip like. I was just thinking about today. Because onto target marshall's today and there's so many sections of that store like i just skip it overall because there's there's nothing i need. There are want their. That was not the case with fema. And i'm saying it as if it's gone. I don't even know if they're not are they gone gone for good. I don't even know. I think so because every single time i've seen in the last five years it's been like the going out of business hours. We're still going good fair for you. But the point is they had something like i would never skip a section any at all and if we owed browse every single inch of that store top to bottom by one thing maximum. But i love you could walk out of there with the lord of the rings. Box set bruce springsteen born to run vinyl funchal pop and of fidgets. Yup you clean up an f. Why exactly we're gonna take your so good dam by number three mitumba. Three fuck game stop. I'm going e. B gains electronic boutique that now that is video games to me like i had somebody actually yesterday. Who said like has has buying a game system. Always been this crazy. And i said i do. The last one was the. Ps four wasn't like this and the xbox one this this has been crazy getting a ps five and shit like that. it was very hard to get. Can't you may not like fucking bandit effect that you got yours really without stress. It's just the next effect could back in the day back in the day like the xbox three sixty game cube that shit talk to get and electronic boutique e b games. What was a nightmare. Going to games at midnight to get the new madden and then it became game. Stop and now. It's not as fun anymore. But i'm going electric boutique. I don't think i've ever been liens. You probably did. Because they all turned into game. Stop that makes they and there was. It used to be chunks boutique and they competed against badges. And then there was a great consolidation. Some point they decided they no longer needed to fucking video. Game stores in one mall western dieted downhill near me called plane trade knowing whether game store at a really ever seen a chain Ken jack you're number. Three round three pick really wanted netflix. On the turnaround. That sucks. fuck it. I think i'll just pick mall games. 'cause i would always go to mall game. Stop whenever i saw like there's one of the malls to work at. And i would just go their own like every other break and just look at used games that i was never gonna buy sitting there looking at like. This is like two thousand thirteen. I think and. I'm sitting there looking at nba two k. Nine like maybe my point like these players cool. I mean more game stops hit different owner. Why can't explain it and especially the the mall game stops that are located near the food court. I don't know why games this fucking wild is right across from the food stop. You're sitting there to sniff and teriyaki and subway breath smell or whatever. Just looking at a copy of any show arcade three on three in your silly ten dollars. It was sixty dollars like a fight two years ago. Trill two in a row around three first round four. Okay so this one's kind of conceptual okay of malls. Have you know the three spoke pattern. They have three wings or four wings. Wings of the central hub. I'm taking the concept of the shitty wing at the mall is every mall has a shitty went usually usually anchored historic serious. Yes anchored by And so you know you go down you know. You always like go see like that. But that's where the turnover happens right like in the good wings with like the nordstrom you know stores are going to stay. Finish line is going to be down there you under the shitty wing and they might have like a a a black golf like like many golf. Where like you know. A bigger store furniture store used to be there might be a polk amman store. Now there's something who knows as she gets wild over there and they swear the lighting's just a little darker and it's kind of going through a portal to bizarro mall But but i. I still like that feeling. Because that that shows the shows the competitiveness in the difficulty of the retail environment truly hard industry to be successful in. That reminds me only because you just mentioned this to nominate a worst pick. And it's the ninety nine cent store that would be near sears. Because if feel like every every shitty shitty wing like you're saying true hadn't had a dollar store near there and will be the worst storm in history like just all officers inherently not that great but it would be the worst one now. Here's here's here's the flipside of that my fourth pick. It's the parking. Lot of that sears. In the shitty wing during the holidays is the cheat code. everybody's going around parking at the good anchors. You want to get that primo parking. You go to that when you parking you go into the mall entrance and you're right there especially when it's cold outside that parking. Lots of the best one to park at take me. There's a. There's a theory that i'm working on today. That no matter what department story anchor department store you walk out of the iot rights zales no matter what no matter what you walk out of you say riles berg details out there right ken jack round four fixture. I'm gonna go with man. Everyone wanted to game. Stop that early. Someone heartbreaks. I'll go with yankee candle Only because i'm a big candle guy. And i love smelling candles. That's another story. Every time i go to in this accounts for even like the out. Say the one danke candle section within a bed bath and beyond or whatever you wanna call like out. Just sit there. And i'll go through smelling every single candle. Smell every single one of them not bimen then maybe by them and they go on amazon prime smell every single candle and it's delightful store soci- just sits there looking at me like. Do you need help you mentally okay and acknowledged smelling these scandals. I wanna see a mango candle. Might smell like in spoiler alert. they don't smell good. that's not smell. You'd want your home. You basically everyone just wants to get the scene three cents which are like all false sense. Yeah i'm not gonna pick it but the body shop in bath and body works and also up there as well. China low cream smell from bath and body works as always That'll fucking punching the face. That okay gotcha. My next one man. This is tough. This is what i'm not gonna take. But every malls got one of these that sheedy sports store. It's got like a generic name like sports heaven or sports usa. And then you can buy. That's where no matter. What city are you can buy every. Nfl team has represented there in some way shape or form like a stein. Cleveland browns stein a packers like lawn. The sort of my last take but minds a little bit different. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah i'm not thinking. You can get a lanyard for every college old jerseys like still like menzel browns jerseys up there mixed maybe of barreau or something in a two Yeah every every month got one of those all the most generic name possible Craig autograph would've would've what fuck. Cincinnati bengals credential helmet. Dares of this is. This is one of our toughest drafts. Because i have so many things i could pick. I'm going to go with. This might be controversial. I'm gonna go brooke stone stone over the sharper image. I always found. I always found brooke stone to be more intriguing because it was the more down to earth. Selections sharper image style always to futuristic like. It was good but trump is like. I don't know like it never don't always have like the little rock. Waterfalls in front has soothing. When you went in somebody go briggstone round four pick audience pick number four is the lids. I didn't like leads store. I feels uncomfortable. I don't like you get a good lids bigger lids for they have more of a selection that can be an enjoyable experience but most of them are pretty small. Yeah employees. I just want to look at this. Oversized green new york. Yankees hat and peace without being accosted by louis had never by lids competitor. Hat world yeah right yep it was at world yeah world yeah yet had world it was. The logo was a guy with the purple hat. Brilliant and the audience rounded out with With hot topic audience also had orange. Julius buckle the mall at christmas time and the disney store on their list i do. I did like the. I think buckle rebranded to but i did like the buckle when i was like twenty. That was the cutting edge. You referenced it once before on the pod. But i forget what for. The disney store was awesome. This dizzy store for me. I didn't have have on. I don't remember westwards online ahead. One but i remember most reciprocally because it was across from my grandparents in vero beach. Florida there. They're mall had one so you're always there on vacation anyway. Is it's spoiled. Go to the disney store. My last one coming down to three couple things. Sweet factory thought about sweet factory. Thought about waldenbooks Borders barnes and nobles with dominates the market. They're not borders anymore. But actually i'm going to go. Kb toys because nothing like a mall trip and you go to the toy store and kb toys was it was cool. It was yeah it was a kb toys and it's More more nefarious cruel cousin. The pet store the fucking puppy mill at the mall glass window. Yeah yeah there was very actually very socially acceptable. Twenty years ago and almost in every like mid tier mall net typically. Yeah as a society that we kinda world lake Wonder a wonder what's happening to those dogs when they don't sell can't so you almost got mine but in the same vein is yours to sports branded everything store. But it's a sports branded everything kiosk. So there's a lower select but you could buy. Almost anything sports branded. Maybe walk away with the giants branded pillow. Maybe walk away with jet slippers but you could also walk away with maybe like a a redskins panini press like you know you go walk away. They've just for some reason. They put a brand on literally anything you can think of like red solo cups with packers logo. Even though it's a long island mall makes no sense sense. But at this kiosk you could get it. That's awesome the one that i think has. Last the longest sports shula the spatula with the sports team. Yes spatulas earned. Saint chill has been sold. Well that's a great father's day gift. I would imagine that sells off the charts. Essentially a revolution sport. Sheila that's a good pick tro rounded out. It's when when a church moves into a former anchor that that's That that was the one of the more solid jokes. The righteous gemstones but It happens in. It's more you know use that. The buildings built use that space monster. Tough going to keep going under So i i like. I like mozilla any extras on your list. You wanna re like saw. Had the great american. Cookie was one of that. Bad mrs fields. That was rare though. 'cause you're to cook pretzels. Were easy to convince the convinced. The parents but that was tougher. Brooke stones sweet factory while the books filene's basement and everybody knew what that was a kid. The body shop mentioned bath and bath and body works with with usually the plaid awnings Always very vintage look dildo. Bear was always a big deal started opening up in malls Zales carlton's cards the hallmark store like the The the shoe stores the the footlockers and the foot actions in the champs in in all the stores but liked them when they were like smaller before. Like shoes really really took off But i was like always like you know when you had the catalogs right. You got the east bay catalog and then you want to see the shoe in person. Good feeling like it was fun. They changed their logo. But remember your mall was not among us you had With the black signed big yellow ladders an orange does payless shoe source They changed their logo by the that. Distinct logo painless kids as well. I still i still my favorite my favorite store. The mall is nordstrom. I think that. I just think in terms of like i mean they're they're they're higher price point but usually they tear them really walk to to fit in with the malls their so like you know the one. The one on the gives mile in chicago isn't merchandise the same as the one in Like what was it. The one in cincinnati or whatever at that mall starts with a k. but but they usually like you know there's the have hagley they offer something for like a lot of different price points but it's always like a pleasant experience go indoors nordstrom other ibar. Get a coffee like nordstrom. Now i i like nordstrom to. It's there they have a massive just men store in new york now and it opened up across from a store that has like actual good restaurants that the michelin star restaurant in there and the one at the arboretum austin is really nice to. If you're ever in austin though more pared down than the usual nordstrom Shot lord and taylor filene's jc penney staples jc penney jc penney. Bank bankrupt Dillard's tiller one yet. Dillard's is I don't know man. I haven't been in dillard's forever narrow one. Yeah i don't know. I only know what you know is kind of thing. We talk about malls but then thinking. I don't want shopping online for the most part so much as i like it like it's mostly just to go is mostly just to go around. See like wh what's being sold in kind of what the general status of the mall a kind of like a temperature surveying your lands. Well it it would. I think. I think it's fascinating to see where people are going or how the stores look and how they're doing try to get like a very anecdotal local gauge of you know cow how things are going in general. I bought something today. It's called helen nineties pop culture trivia game and. I think that we should do a quick run through. You've versus jeff. Put run through all right. I sent you guys a buzzing buzzing link in the check right here we go. I think drills it a wax me on this okay first question. Which store would you not find it a mall during the ninety s clair's hollister temple casuals straight through asks right. Wait what what is auster. No hollister's or in the nineties. I thought you were still reeling off the options i was he just buzzed in early. Hollister wasn't yeah abercrombie. I was like people like the scene. L guess we'll just do hollister what links these clues together. Kirsten larsen samantha parkinson. And molly mcintire babysitters. Jeff i'll give you hint They are their toys. What links these three clues. Together kirstin larsen samantha. Parkinson and molly mcintire. That sounds like american girl. That's correct okay. So man he got a clue what he waited. If you guys get. both of. What color was the iguana team in the game. Show legends of the hidden temple faulk. That's a great question that i don't know the answer to. I know i should know. I think it was purple. No give you guys both ahead on buzzy. True was kind of on the right track but he was too specific orange. It's a yes or talk. Really what was purple purple barracuda's there's a bonus question. What color was the pera. Team purple purple. That's rick purple. all right. what spreadable product did his luxuriance locks. I can't believe it's not butter asks right all right. It's a spelling bee. You have to spell joey. Buttafuoco long island legend b. u. t. t. a. f. You see nope phooko joe face be. Ut long island leader you may ask you. Oh see oh no you both at ut a few of way. Oh i missed your t. He's done. He's double teed yes he's wbz heat up It's me joey buttafuoco. Who won her first soap opera or want an emmy soap opera star after we nominated almost every year after next. And those shit Do you remember when he was on the roller coaster and get hit by the bird in the face. The been up to weird shit since his book cover days. You're kind of trivial cheat code. You'll eventually have to make your return. I i got very specific areas of expertise in trivia luckily is what basically the trivia at work in two right up your alley. We have a thing is like when the dozens tough because it's like named three four sports things that have happened and then Tougher to me than like a susan lucci picture of fabio like ultimate male guy hit by a bird faces covered in blood. And he's he's got these attractive young women just like are you you okay. That's a german accent by the way jeremiah's austin or something no difference. It's very um yellow. All right what was the name of niles. Never seen wife is la frazier. Drew my no because frasier niles no Give you some options. Okay lilith daphne marissa roz wasn't right. Yeah yeah i would assume a character lewis was was frazier's wife and cheers roz thing. I remember most from from frazier. Oh you haven't poked your wife in to own. No no that's it again. I don't know what the fuck later on the week But that's it for kenya. We'll do a bracket bell bracket offer. Ken jack and trilby. So we'll talk to you next to the bus of the folks team. I would deci don nolan. How dery real knowl- in nawaz he will reason be. This is leaning. i had three. That's in that way do need

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"This portion of dot net rocks is brought to you by couchbase a modern multi cloud edge sequel friendly jason document database for building applications with jill dougherty performance and scale if you're new to couchbase and would like to learn more the couchbase developer portal is the best place to start. It's loaded with tutorials videos documentation as well as best practice tips. Quick start guides and community resources including couchbase developer community forum to get started developing on couchbase. Visit couchbase dot com slash dot net. Rocks that's couchbase. Dot com slash. Dot any t. r. o. c. k. s. Welcome back to dot net rocks. This is carl franklin. And this is richard cable and boy. It's been a while since we recorded a show. It's been a few weeks you gonna give you time off. We do a bunch of shows all at once and you get a couple of weeks off. They do a bunch more. I like it. it's march first right now. I mean right now as you're listening to this but as we recording it's march first than night saw. The crocus is coming up poking on today. Saying he here i am here i am. Don't worry life is coming back. life is coming back. Yeah it is pretty pretty rough winter. No two ways about it is pretty cool. This is going to be a great show but before we get the guests and stuff and before better no framework. I have a little announcement to make. I have put out. What i think is going to be a very popular. Get repo. it's called blazer sliders and there's a new package for it as well. It's just what you think but sliders is sort of you think like a slider that goes back and forth. But i'm talking about. I think about a hamburger. But that's especially blazer sliders right. I mean something. I want to order at chili's or burger king sunday but anyway yeah so so. It's multiple panels horizontal and vertical split panels. Right so you have a sprayer in the middle and you can grab the splitter and move it left and right to the panels in the whole thing re sizes when you re size the browser you can make it. Take up the whole screen. It's blazer it's good you can estim- right now. You can only nest a horizontal inside a vertical. But i'm working on multiple nesting. I basically got it working. And now i put it out there. Good yeah now. i'm refactoring it and making it actually more efficient and less verbose and all. Now you get the me notes from people of course our whole product around your library and it's your fault there's and it's only been a couple of days and thirty download. Some not all the eric about it. Give them a couple more weeks to really get the hate on for you right. So here's my advice. If you're using one point zero point one that's gonna change. So but but the good news is that properties are being taken away not add so the you won't need to do so much manual set up it'll automatically discover who the children are and who the parents are in. It'll automatically figure out how to size itself right now. I do i have. I would require a little bit of setup in the parameters but that's going away so anyway enjoy blazers flyers works on s- a server and blazer wasim and Yeah but that's not my better framework. Oh okay will you better play the music then be yeah you better go now. You know you do it. No you fine. You got all right. Well this is actually pretty cool in the guys in one of the guys in Avonex slack room. Scott rowdy found this so microsoft uses this thing called code q. L. it's a semantic code analysis engine. That's part of get hub right okay. They open sourced it so in the end the ideas that you can use code q wealth to make queries to hunt for Soul solar gate activity so essentially. What you can do is you can have this thing. Where your code base and find the militias bits. Oh interesting yeah yeah. It's pretty cool. So i don't understand a whole lot of it but it is mind blowing that you know you can just imagine just checking your code in and then you know get hub says. Hey this is Or notifies you know malicious code so it's It's really cool. Yeah very interesting. And he's becoming a normal part of the pipeline. These days it seems for at softwares also looking for like accidental uses of somebody else's coat right like you don't know right pace things like don't necessarily know where sources come prime so you can trace analysis across the board just like where is this code from That whole dependency chain. Yeah yeah for sure. It's good. But i thought james would like that and Now over to you richard. What's who's talking to us today. Well considering alassio james twenty thirteen. It's very unfair to read like comments from eight nine years ago. We should anyway. Not that i wouldn't do that. But actually i found a really relevant comment for this show from adult compatriot of james's from jerry miller's from show sixteen fifty five. Just show we. Jeremy met back in october. Twenty nineteen talking about the dot net core ecosystem so that whole the what the open source community looked like there and so we talked about a lot of different things in that space. One of which was talking about non relational databases and crossed crafts comment about a year and a half old now where he says. Hey it's always interesting to hear from rockstars like miller but as a show was concentrated towards no sequel noise right. Some of the statements were converts. Wrote not will put me off a bit. Like when richard said why would it make the customer to decompose objects. Just store the object right. Of course. I think a little. Alex fair alex's i followed that with the customer store the object and then break it out into a relational database. A synchronous -ly right. After the customers already moved on the goes on to say though i understand that adding all the caveats the statements would make the show boring as a dvd worshiper inactive. No sequel developer for years. Here's my outcry. There is a serious cost associated with developing and supporting no sequel database for relational databases to Consider at least document type databases which most people mean when they say no sequel the aggregates designed for the most often operation reading data so persisting aggravates is not meant to be quick sensitive volt dated duplication maintaining reference out of the boundaries and so forth and about performance. Hey sequel is performed to the question is what are you trying to do. There are places where no sequel shines and they're also places where databases do just fine. I do like no sequel in much higher level of usage in the enterprise but modern hazy understanding of those equal obstructs adoption of the technology. You the pragmatic way as just another tool in your tool belt team. No sequel as the default option would remove the perception of it being an untouchable shrine. And get more people using it. Yeah he does reference a couple of blog posts including seven reasons not to use no sequel and the book no sequel to still by martin fowler. Which is a little stale. but it's martin fowler. You should read it. Yeah anyway. I thought it was interesting. You know our apps. We weren't firm enough on this whole in. I think the two things work together really. Well there are places where people may sense appraises where people may sense and most places where both will help you zoom time. Yup so alex. Thank you so much for your comment. A copy musical buys on its way to eun. If you'd like a copy of these go by write a comment on the website at dot net rocks dot com or on facebook were published every show and if you sit there and read on the show. I'll send you a copy music. Oh by and definitely follow us on twitter. I met carl franklin. He's at rich campbell. Send us a tweet and you know. Hurry up because times. Wasting not yeah. It's springtime get out there and play in the crocuses all right. So i'd like to introduce reintroduced james kovacs and introduced for the first time rachelle palmer so a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. James kovacs was a frequent guest on dot net rocks. He spoke at conferences wrote magazine articles and had an active twitter account. Then a career change landed him at mongo. Db where he has spent the last five years in self inflicted obscurity. I liked that. Self inflicted obscurity during that time he has worked on the technical support team assisting customers with a core database product and more recently on the driver's team building the language idiomatic drivers that allow developers to connect mongo db his current focus is implementing new features in the mongo db dot net c. Sharp driver which is used by millions of developers worldwide and for the first time on dot net rocks rochelle palmar is currently a senior product manager focused on developer experience at mongo db which includes drivers and integrations with all of manga. Db's officially supported programming languages. Which are c. Sharp dot net python corsi sharp slash dot net python ruby. Php no go swift and java. She's been with mommy. Db's since two thousand thirteen. i mean. Welcome you individually. Welcome james thank you. Welcome back good to be back and welcome thanks mongo. Db james I'll never forget that. I Show that you did with us. Low those many years ago In the absolute perfect description of ifc. And why you it and It just You know it was a great explanation. I consider it the best explanation of those things since before. Or since i appreciate that a lot of my goal of technology is to understand things at a fundamental level and then share it with others. And i'm hoping to bring some of that. Knowledge of non relational databases and mongo. Db two emeals the dot net community. And i think i heard about maga d be in the context of raven db which is i thing and i guess he he wanted to do something similar to mongo but i never really really got into it into raven but i did like the way he was talking about. How index is created on the fly. And all of that stuff and i imagine. It's very much the same in mongo. I end is a smart guy. And he was trying to build a native and non relational engine on windows for the dot net framework and like a lot of the ideas. He took from mongo. Db we are competitive product. Why will fully admit up but with mongo. Db you've got a much larger organization behind cut a lot more features and it's amazing all the things that de mortgage is used. That's been around for well over a decade shall do you remember when we were founded two thousand seven might have been two thousand nine somewhere somewhere around there so we've been around for a while and we've gone through. There's been a lot of different technologies steps along the way an improvement. So that's remember very angie ireland with that canadian. Who's been quiet. so far we were on the Scott net rocks was at scott net rocks. It was the england. Ireland and scotland tour that we did yes and so we were in dublin. And we're heading out to go meet a friend you know for some traditional music and right next door to the hotel was manga devi. But it was just really. It was really like a a soviet kind of experience. There was just the word mongo. Db in a very small font on the door. You remember this. Richard was like. Isn't that kind of unassuming right for this huge as a company to just have this little door with his little logo. We're not yeah. Yeah yeah no. What i'm saying is it was probably a big office but just under understand it at the front door little door. A little sign on a perfectly normal size ashley right. So what's new in mongo. Db are we talking about atlas. Yeah we can talk atlas. We can talk driver right. We can talk core. Server product shown anything dot the dot net itchy has not been the usual constituency for mongo. Right is normally think of mongo in the context of the lamps. No right the lyrics world austin's often we the the actual core server can run on a variety of operating systems including windows including including a variety of other ones mac. Os things like that. A lot of times. People will build applications in whatever their development languages. And that's something that we've seen a real uptake in is that people were developing on windows dot net applications but we're seeing more and more desire to move dot net applications over I'm for the simple reason. Cheaper to run run faster Full stop mythic end of conversation. Yeah yeah a lot of companies are interested in doing this So that's one and the other thing is sometimes people will question. How much is mugabe committed to the microsoft ecosystem. We have a law of customers. Running the microsoft stack that are connecting among d. b. r. c. Sharp driver team is one of our larger grabber teams. We've got five fulltime members on the team right now that are actively developing features The dot net driver itself has been around for over eight years and we are supporting more and more currently going through a rewrite of our link provider to provide better links support. And that's gonna be coming in a future version so we're very much invested in the dot net ecosystem and in microsoft developers. He had the link side of Curing mongo with link is very interesting is better or worse like is very relational oriented so sort of get this. You know there used to be an odbc driver for excel to. It didn't make it a good idea. My the hyun kidneys. Cram that the link query style into through a among database. There's kind of performance again gonna get from it Quite good actually because from a technical standpoint C. sharp with link is just an abstract syntax tree. It's ast and we take that tree. And then we translate it into the equivalent. Mql were mongo db query language. And so it is actually quite efficient and we can get very good performance Is one of my favorite ways of actually accessing mongo db in performing complex queries often doing aggregations group by operations really crunching. Data is a lot easier to link quiry than often hand Handcrafting the queries yourself. 'cause you still have relations. It's just they're just not you know so diabolically specked out. I mean you just figure them out. On the fly build indexes he the the friendly way to say that his structure he added that in air quote. I like diabolic. Better more accurate. Well one of the. That's one thing that allows good to perform really well compared to a relational database. Is that if you think about your typical sequel database. A lot of your relations are parent child relations. Right where one object fully owns another one. But because sequel a sequel and everything structured tables in you got foreign keys you have to break everything apart. So you're spending a lot of Computation resources breaking things apart and then putting them back together whereas with mongo. Db you've got an order which has a shipping address and a bunch of order line items and a discount. You just jam that all into one document and that can be queried as a whole mugabe also has a very advanced query language so that you can say give me all customers who received a twenty five percent discount right. Even though that percent discount is buried inside order document. But if you think about it you don't want that order documenta ever change because that was the order. That is the truth. This was the point i made on. Jerry miller show all that time ago right is like you know the actual reference to the truth is all the things at that moment. Store those things then. Decompose them later for analysis. And i've done sequel applications. That are like that. They need to know the state of what was the address of that particular time. And you have to put in a whole bunch of machinery and always ensure that new addresses are always inserted in your version in them and all of that becomes very complicated and with mongo db. You just store the current address. Here's a really good example. The dot net rocks database is it is a sequel database and we have a guest table and we have a shows table and you know the guests have a photo and description and whatever and a bio right in anytime that That bio changes it changes everywhere that its reference so you go back to show in back from two thousand to. It's got a bio you know. It doesn't have the original by when picture it's all been updated and so you're listening to reading bio and it's the old bio well. Let's look at it this way. James's i show on two thousand eight and his bio on that show now says he works for mongo dooby before. That's right exactly. I know people are going back. What rachel what's your role at mongo. So i moved. Over to products in twenty twenty and i currently own all of our drivers and ap is and then in addition Framework integration so for php. That's larry will You know for ruby. That's rails and arm rails odiham which is mongoloid so a whole lot of stuff is summary. Boss here yeah. It's it's pretty exciting. I mean i joined manga in two thousand thirteen and it was a really different company. Actually not the tom. We didn't make any money wise. And i actually was when i first joined. I was on the cloud team and it was a much different product. Then this was pre atlas and so i actually have the spreadsheet of win. We first started making money. And i basically backed out our own personal credit cards. And we discovered that someone who didn't work at mongo. Db had paid us and we have a little party. So that's how long it's been now. It's been pretty crazy every day since i haven't been to. The story are of becoming a real company and that's without being acquired without going public like just growing up and that's a rarity to simply grow up in via company. I really recommend it if you can. You can handle a stress much preferred to work in at a big enterprise company. Where you're a cog for. Which is what i did. Prior to mongo. Db big big machines. So we've obliquely referenced times. I guess we better tell that story. So when mongo db atlas so among it'd be atlas is our database as a service platform you can use manga deby atlas with any cloud provider. So that's azure. That's gcp that's aws and essentially you. You know create an account. We have a free tier and it's free forever and you create your own little manga database. And you're up and running and you get your connection string and you're off to the races. It's huge at this point I was also obviously. They are when it was first created wing and a prayer. Hell mary type of style. And now you know we have c. Sharp actually is really big on atlas. We have over ten thousand active projects. Which active is somebody has logged in in the last thirty days and done something. So that's it's it's pretty. It's pretty big enough specifically c. Sharp projects right. Yeah overall project is much much. Larger projects is over over a million. At this point i would. I would presume. C. sharp is still very much a minority player in the in the mongo ecosystem. Yeah yeah you'd be surprised You'd be surprised at chuck. It's fun fascinating to me. You know when. I took over this position. I have to say like i was a little nervous about see sharp because it's one of the languages i've never worked with. I didn't know anything about him. Like microsoft yeah links. I never windows never But actually it's been super fun and it's one of my favorite teams to work with the community is just so great like really great And out of the top. You know i think. Out of the top. Ten gaming companies eight of them use mongo db and a lot of them use atlas actually which is pretty exciting so yes that's an area of focus and then of course like a bunch of Enterprise and financial firms uc sharp. Because it's a serious language. Meant for serious work. It's not an obvious thing. In the way that some other languages are well if you look at our commercials support offering which is where we make a good portion of our money. We're companies pay us to assist them and troubleshoot their applications most of these as you can imagine enterprises and therefore they use enterprise languages. Top top tier is java turnout surprising java c. Sharp is actually really close. Second for me. Let's face it. Essentially have similar origins. Right oh exactly statically. Typed object oriented management memory language in development environments like pretty pretty similar they are brothers yep and then pass that is that no j. us and the rest of our languages fall into down below that but yeah the top. Three languages are java. Java sharp and j. us enterprise side jaw job as he sharp and you sort of classic open web dev at davos. It's going to be no apps. A lot of developers whether java warsi sharp liked to play around with no j. on side. So that's what i've seen in enterprises is that they'll be a microsoft shop and sharper their javale shop so that all be java but then they got a bunch of nausea applications and both teams do exactly that they'll play with no gs his. Everybody has to write a little javascript. It's kind of unavoidable. I'm looping back a bit to them on the to atlas here. So if i'm on azure i can i can by this as a service and is also running on azure so you guys are actually operating on the three major cloud providers yet and actually if if you're worried about it or if you're one of the unfortunate souls who survived one of the aws outages in the past few years. You can actually have one of your each of your manga to be nodes on a different cloud so you can run across cloud which i like that well. Any par par somewhat multi cloud mythology to. It's almost like a checklist. But it's i appreciate that. Yeah you've done that. And so i could sink across these infrastructures if i wanted to migrate or or to have a fail over to another cloud i just have it as a guy who builds a lot of fail over solutions over the past decades. This is disturbing. I haven't seen a lot of fielded multi clouds like we can fail from from. Aws azure or. Did you see like that's just doesn't seem to be much of that. Actually lots of people talking about it. A lot of people talk about it but not a lot of people either. Do it or actually need to do it. Yeah we're i think. Multi multi cloud really plays strong. Especially the cto's is the lack of lock in if you're running on azure and microsoft decides to drastically increase as prices. Yeah you can just port your entire solution over to gdp or it'll be just not going to be free like there's gonna be effort involved with at least doable but it's doable. You do not all of a sudden reconsidering rewrite. My entire data layer in order to achieve these things. Yeah so what you're really describing then is prozac for right. That's actually is. It's like. Keep the cto com gonna be fine. We drop a couple of these in his coffee. You'll be all right. I guess it also depends on how far you depends on how far you go right so you can have everything in another cloud ready to go just laying dormant just images right and then turn it on if something goes wrong rather than invest a whole lot of time and effort and money into automatic fail over stuff you know then then it just comes down to up. Somebody gets a phone call or an alarm and they have to do it really quickly. I still think it would be days like it's just not that trivial wanted to shift that stuff across and and hopefully you're using the m.'s. And and containers and things that are relatively portable. You could go across deeply. Invested in any of the different vendors. Service technologies should've their distinctive analogy. There's going to be hard to move. Yeah that's true well and that's something that when you're building a cloud based application you have to consider a cloud vendors do provide a wide variety of very convenient services but they lock you into their platform. So how locked in are you willing to be. How much risk are you willing to tolerate being locked into. Aws or another platform. And how much do you want the flexibility to move services around. I like Azures coober nettie service because you can use your own docker containers and everything so as long as you have your containers some place ready to go. You could do your own cuban netease in and in gcp or in In an amazon if you need to But while you're on asher you can enjoy all the the wonderful high level stuff of ak s as a sort of separate thing. I think one of the other benefits of atlas is that secure by default. You get less. Esa sale automatically default. You don't have to set up anything which is really nice because you know. That's that's hard you've also got a variety of secur security solutions around like you can log in with a username password which is properly hashed salted over the net. Like you. don't wanna pass. Anything clear taxed You can use l. doubt you can use a api keys. There's a variety of ways of actually authenticating with the atlas service as well as private networks. So that you can isolate your look if you have a azure deployed infrastructure. You can make sure that it goes through private links so you only going across azure controlled. Interfaces you're not ever going out onto the public. Bob that reminds me. I want you to tell people about f. l. e. while we're here before we dive into that. Let's take break for this very important message. If you've had automating your. Espn at deployments. On your to do list. Now's a great time to give octopus. Deploy a try the starter edition. 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It's a recent feature that was added to mongo db and it allows you to do your encryption on the client side so you actually acquire encryption keys from an encryption key provider either on azure we now support azure and a and aws. I think we ought as well recently. So any of the major cloud providers they provide a key containers so you can request keys and those are ever only ever seen on the client side. So any data that you read has been encrypted with your key so the server the monkeys can't read it. It's just no pick blob a bits once it gets to the client. It's it can be automatically decrypted so it looks like clear text. So if you're storing hassle you shouldn't be showing say passwords sleep that topic out up. Ppi right like or p. I personally identifiable information which sometimes people want to store. So if you're storing credit card details once again need you really need to But things like social security numbers. Which often you do need to have them stored in your database. But you don't want your cloud provider necessarily to have access to the us. Side field encryption to actually encrypt these fields and ensure that and if you read them it just looks like encrypted bits but if you have the decryption key then all of a sudden it's readable unusable and is your ability to share those keys between devices so that multiple devices could decrypt it even though the store cannot yes So you actually communicate with the the jerky store aka s and if your client is typically do it on a server but if that server has been allowed access to a ks what y'all control take aka infrastructure than that client would be able to decrypt encrypt data to and from that is coming from manga. Db but if it didn't have those encryption keys for instance if it was reporting app that could only report on high level patient information but none of the particulars than you wouldn't grant it access and it would not be able to read those fields but you can go very granular. You can go okay. I want these three fields encrypted. But i don't want these other twelve encrypted at all so you can it not like you have to encrypt the entire object. You can if you want to. But typically Field by field. What sensitive rights. He could protecting specific data. But we we battled this problem with encryption on sequel server to where he was easy to grip the whole thing. But then you you know you just crippled any kind of querying because you had decreased everything to figure out any of that right. Not just a just encrypting sensitive information you just the salary information. Just the identifiable but the index the index stuff important stuff. We've still legible well while the other interesting things that we play with is you. When you're designing your encryption scheme what you can do is you can say. Let's say you're encrypting the salary information. You can encrypt it all with the same key. So they're always encrypt to the same value. You don't know what that value is but it's always the same value right and that allows you to still query it you can't do range based queries but you can do give me everybody who earns fifty thousand dollars stink because you can trip that fifty thousand dollars to a known value and then query the database saying everybody with is known value. I not know what that value is. But i know it's the same across these records exactly exactly so. There's a lot of fun things you can do with that from an application designs chant white insecurity standpoint. Yeah if you if you think hard about it but this whole encrypted before it leaves the device is pretty compelling for a lot of folks right. i don't. i'm not transmitting. It counting on some kind of encryption during transmission and then encrypting it again as it goes to rest on the in the central store and crooked it. Before i left. That's right y'all got for that and that's that's the client side encryption. Then we also do a lot of when you're on asher the bits that actually get out to the actual volumes are encrypted as well so we do on disconnection as well right to ensure that is secure while you guys mungo went through the security ride. I did a run as back in twenty seventeen about the mongo exploit which is like they. Hey you know what would be careful with. Defaults defaults are hard. Yes that it's not. I think it's also you know your products important when it makes but it becomes a part of an exploit like that like and now you have to think about your product differently too. And that was an interesting growing pain going from focusing on startups to an enterprise company off because as a startup. We want people to just be able to spin up a mongo d on your laptop. Not don't have to worry about authenticating anything you just connect to a certain port and you're off to the races so we made it really easy for developers to get mongo. Db setup running. Yeah well that was the problem and we had we had. We had all of our documents at the time. I was working with technical support and we had all the documentation in how secure it a. Nobody bothered insist. The that's the reality because the default was unsecured guy. You kind of have to force them to do the right thing. Even though it impairs their ability to get started yet by the other the atlas is another solution of that is like hey you developed locally. You ready to go into production. Why don't you use are secure one in the cloud and no worry about scaling at an all. Those other things like life will be easier this way. And you're far more likely to stay safe exactly because when you even when you spend up an zero cluster. Which is our lowest free tier always free that is secured not less. It has password protection automatically turned on everything secure by default in atlas as you can try out. I actually spent last week building applications with my team just like let's build a senior application and see what it's like from a user perspective and we just spun up. An atlas database put some data in there and were able to securely connect and started reading a phone app actually right on the device and connecting to atlas so that was a lot of fun but yeah it was secure by default of the box and as you start to scale. That's the other nice thing about atlas is you're going you say okay. Now i need more horsepower behind it this. I've developed the v. next plants versus zombies game. Let's start scaling this now we can. It's literally a click of the button in the u. Is like okay. I need an m. thirty. Which is our dedicated tier. Okay i need something with even bigger up to fifty and one hundred and what we are doing on the back end is basically scaling up the vm's at the running and providing more resources to the back end. She something somebody could do. Your ops team could be scaling mongo themselves. But did they want to do they wanna learn how they this thing and there are definitely people who do that. We do have an in prescription where you can. You can also just do it on community if you want right a lot of your own tooling you can download community for free and start building at your own mogadishu infrastructure. But is that what you want specialized right. Do you get a lot of customer requests asking you to move their relational databases to mongo some some. Yeah i mean that. Is that a common thing. And that's a that's an area that it's an area that i know. Our consulting team does log working obsessive. One of the nice things about maggie is. There's a support team. There's a conservative team. There's an engineer that we got all these different teams can focus on different things. There is a desire to move relational workloads over tomago db depending on the application. Sometimes that can be a good thing and sometimes it is more work than is really warranted. Yeah i don't find that lift and shift is super popular. I think what tends to happen. Is that they sort of sidecar the to databases for a while. And then they'll move workload over but it tends to be that they re architect in the process. Which is why. It's usually a very big projects like let's download all the data and then just put it in mongo. It's it's more like a even considering lifting and shifting. Because you have relational data that now has to be documented. Alexa therefore does need to be reacted absolutely but do. Do you think that if you were going to make the case somebody who's got a hefty sequel azure bill every month. Because they're you know because it's expensive. Let's face it and you know. Maybe it turns out that the shape of their data with lend itself really well to a document database. What's the case. Is it a money in performance. Both make the case there. I think it's both one of the solutions that is is pretty recent. I can't remember what year we debuted our data lake project but it's basically You know you can query your data in s. three bucket and then the results of the query you can put into a manga debbie database. So that's how some companies shift there content or their their data basically to mongo to be atlas which is a pretty nice way to do it because then it's like i'm only moving the data that i need just kind of nice i worked in consulting four gb. I think that you know it's one of those projects that we would love to bid on as a consultancy firm because it will take multiple years. No cost you millions of dollars and then you may not actually get any your net. Your net money gained loss. Might not really be what you were sold. I think well you look at the price of an enterprise license of sequel server today Like it's it's far more than the hardware. The hardware price keeps going down. The the licensed price keeps going up. Right what a sixteen thousand core right now for enterprise sequel server like. It's no fooling like the you could buy a lotta sequel azure for that and i suspect you buy awful lot of atlas for two. Oh that's true totally. I mean that's one of the reasons to move atlas also it's a consumption based model so if you are gonna run on thirties then you which is a sort of a smaller instance is like and then you scale up when you need to or during specific periods of the year. Like if you're a retailer for black friday you'll skill up and then you'll skill back down around valentine's day and it's fine. Yeah i've tried doing that with hardware. It's really tough to take those rams don't do it's not a good idea just leave. Leave those michelle. You don't have hot swap. Richard you pull hard enough everyday talks. That's why yeah. But if you know to that point. This alaska this sort of op ex capital choices like instead of investing in that hardware. And i'm saying this on the it side. These contracts are expiring these hardware. This harbors coming out of warranty. You're looking at in some cases to common numbers worth of equipment in licenses and so forth and you can get an awful lot of variable cost resources for that money. Like i just put that in the bank pay it out monthly and get pretty comparable results and ultimately if i careful and do some tuning and like you said dial down dial up. Those times are can spend less now. Nothing's for free like there's effort involved but by there's nothing easy about buying and setting up new gear either like instead pilot or the other thing that's true and like i'm sure that my our sales team would literally murder me if they hear this podcast but you can also in efforts to developer friendly. We don't have long term contracts for support so if you're using atlas you can purchase a poor because you have a problem or you want a question answered and then you can. Of course cancel your support. So you don't get locked in to this sort of multi year Thousands and thousands of dollars type of deal which is really cool. Yeah and it depends on your organization as to how that works. I also know companies where it's like you don't spend this money you lose it from your budget so you know i've been on the vendor side of that where somebody's calling me saying. Listen i got to this month. What can you sell me once you guys. Give me some kind of contract that shows. I'll get value from you over the next year. I just need this money out of the my account. This you are my friends. I will make something special. i guarantee you. Yeah well and actually the reason we first started doing that is because what would happen. Customers would have some kind of incident or some kind of problem and they would want. I want to support. I don't care how much it cost. i'll pay it right now and we're like no well we'll have to send you to procurement and then you have to sign some papers and they're like can i. Just give you a critical. No you need to start talking now however much money you want to on my problems and also take my money. Yeah yes well again. This is back to the prozac statement. It's like i've been that contract where it's like you pay a retainer to me so that i say there it'll be okay and then go make it okay. Well hearkening back to an earlier comment was. There's a lot of place that the cloud really excels is elastic. Compute resources where you can scale up and scale down. There's a quite a number of business. Not all businesses. But there's a lot of businesses that are very cyclical in nature either seasonal Where black friday. Rush or a i worked with a particular customer who shall remain nameless. Wonderful folks to work with But they they're peaks were around sporting events and every time there was a super bowl or an mc w aa tournament or some big sporting event have a huge spike in traffic. And then it would die down to almost nothing and so with. They were actually on atlas in what they do. Is they scale. Up to very large instances a or two before the big event. Host the big event and yeah. They'd be spending a lot of money for those few days but they've also got a lot of income coming in because of those events and then once those events are done they would scale back down to minimal instances to keep the background traffic going. And there's a number of businesses gaming companies. Do this where they have like. Blizzard has a big launch. And all of a sudden. You're gonna have a lot of traffic hammered. Now we can scale up and then once interest dies down then you scale back down and that flexibility that you're not locked into physical hardware and having to pay too because we're basically with physical hardware you paying for your peak. Now you have to the po provision the pizza and then you've got that peak provision hardware for the other three hundred and sixty four days that you don't need yeah that's absolutely true and certainly this is the new era right. The utility computers that we can buy what we need when we need it and in reasonably short amount of time i mean. How long does it take to move to a higher instance and On atlas minutes. Yeah there's a lot of a we do a lot of Interesting things in the back end. Most of the cloud providers will allow you to tweak their hardware once every six hours right so if you just need a like a very comic database we live and die by aiops guy ops. So if you want to bump up from like a thousand to ten thousand aiops that'll take a few minutes. Yeah i still think if. I might be doing ops coming into black friday. It's like on wednesday. I turn up the nah right and then sort of poke things like everybody. Happy with the big instance and we all good. We don't want to wait until noon on friday for another thing that we were experimenting with Experiment because it's actually in production is auto scale you can turn on auto scaling on your allison. Is that if you see a certain peak load for an extended period of time it will auto scale up to the next instant size. What's the thing you're measuring is like number of transactions are is it i opposite you're measuring ago. This view. Bombardier instance right now. A cpu guys. We're are pinned. Yeah you're processor is pin. Pretty hard bottleneck for mound. Go like i think disk latency zero bottleneck remember. I think you can also do it on. Aiops sedans on your workload if you're doing a very heavy workload. Obviously disguise ops is going to be your primary driving factor if you are doing heavy duty. Educations of where you're doing grouping expressions that's where you can run into. Cbs resource end. Seaview run. We almost never see network run. Hot is typically depending on your workload. It can query heavy and using complex queries like if you're just searching by essentially primary key are underscore field than that takes. Virtually no seaview resort sources resources. But if you're doing a lot of sorting in aggregation in server memory than that can take up cebu you can actually have atlas auto scale so that it will bump up to the next tier up to a maximum the you set and then if it remains if you are below a certain value for typical previously days. I think we're we're getting a bit more aggressive. It can be on the order of ours if you see like your views really running low. You're not using law guy. Oh then you'll drop down your tears again down to a certain minimum set point as it were very much experimenting with this for customers to optimize their costs on atlas. If you could get into daily with is like if you're a retail outlet that's streaming data from transactions but like ten hour window where every store is close like being able to turn that knob all the way down for what is better more than a third of the day or add up over share. Yeah for sure. What about the long term storage side of things is archived. Like i find that. That's an excellent. Sequel azure and these kinds of products as datasets. Get big. they actually get really expensive. And you kinda wanna carve off old data and put it away right so where how. What is the cheapest storage out there in the world today. Blob block store. Yeah whether it be s. Three or azure block store. That is by far the cheapest per gigabyte that you can get so one of the things that we enable is atlas data lake where you can actually pull off your old archive data into an s. Three blob store or a azra blob store and the nice thing about that is although your performance isn't great it's to query -able right so it's still there you know. Is it going to be slower. Because we don't have the full indexes we actually have you can issue mongo db queries against this blob store. Which is quite cool. Yeah but it's it's still there and available for reporting purposes but you're not in incurring the cost of having it hot an available immediately. I should mention the azure sequel does make backups. And so if you screw something up you can just go online into the portal. Find the last backup and restore that to another sequel database. And you're off to the races. That is a very nice feature. But you know you you pay for it. Yep we have automatic backups as well an in atlas so you can actually you can establish a backup schedule a. The backups are snap shotted into asimov's door or orange s three and then you can pick a snapshot and then restore it either to your own. Cluster to cluster. So you have similar functionality. So that you can because you live in companies live and die by the data. Yep and you talk about keeping. Cto's com lose weight like that's bad that'd be cto's get upset win. But so having visibility into data that's old is great but releasing the cost of storing all. Data's because the traditional solution is just delete data. Right or i built archive systems. Auto remote stores is archive it onto tapes yet but having it all built into the platform and we are investing in this as well so to make it easier to right now last. I looked You could either query the data that's in atlas or the the data and data lake. We're one of our goals is to provide a holistic view of it so it will look like the same collection but data that is past a certain year at certain point old will actually exist in s. three and be queried for automate that shuffling i can run into toads Over do do a batch. Once a week this sorta hunts down the oldest stuff in pushes over that street. But i'd rather more me than it's your fault. The other real selling point. I think is that there is automatic upgrades of your manga debbie server version. Which you don't have to do that anymore. Right break right but yeah it's nice that it's you know upgrading. Gnarly takes effort. But you always doing it wrong. At least if if the the vendor is doing it they're probably doing it right and if they're doing around they're upset rags up people at once and hopefully no breaking changes of version to version. Yeah we have a process where you know for the entire platform like said there is over a million active projects so we don't roll it out to all one million at the same time we we basically roll it out to a randomized ten percent and wait and then another twenty percent and wait and then another twenty percent and wait and then the remainder so if we have to. We can rollback of version upgrade. If we see that there are any problems with the i. Ten percent and related to that is not only mogadishu upgrades but os upgrades. You have to run your server software out on us and it's always a hassle. There's a new windows version. There's a new lennox patch comes out and going through the rigmarole of having to upgrade all of your servers. That once again taken care of. Portia not you guys mentioned if free skew atlas what are you get. Oh i don't know we saw. James will have to look up the stats. It seems like a lot. There are a lot of people using it and not just for a tinkering and not for learning mongo db but there are actually people who are running production level apps in our free tier which is kind of fascinating. We did a survey we sort of assume that most people who were Running applications on our free tier sort of learners or students or beginners with mongo. Db but that didn't turn out to be true based on the responses to the survey so yes so you can start out at five hundred twelve megabytes storage for free. And i think there's also a limit on connections and a limit on aiops. But i don't recall what they are sure. So if you have your your stuff out there your clusters or your your shared. Cluster and In turns out lo and behold everybody wants to be on it you know and it becomes popular. You can sort of migrate that up. I suppose that's great. It's also i mean. I use the free tier buy-sell for you know some one of the things i did. This year was analyzing stack overflow developer survey data. So i just put it in mongo. Db and then did some charts so that could look like a cross sections of developer communities. That was cool for that. And then last year i did a health little app which was mobile in a web app and they used our free tier for that and then used it for a talk me world so it's nice to get something up quick quick and running. I think when it comes to my health. I'd want to impact other than but it's also especially with demos it's like i don't like it in the bill at the end of the month because i forgot to turn the flipping off not that. That's this is all good stuff guys very very good. What's next what's next for you james offer me. We're working so. I've been working on the sharp driver and we of new features coming one of the features as coming in the next few days is were introducing. Better lennox support. So if you've got a dot net core apps running on lenox We're going to be adding the ability to feel bubble encryption. Cfl and the fear that i implemented was actually kurosawa. Nice so we're actually talking to the gp shared library on lenox and doing all the funding perot's ticketing stuff and that was believe me. I understood. for bruce before because i knew tickets i new server tickets a new Your ticket to all that actually. Having to implement the bits on the wire is a total total level of understanding. How you can see sharpe seven. These days We actually recently upgraded to c sharp nine po. And we can we do this. Hey we can if if we use a c. Sharp nine feature that requires compiler Libraries sport than we get under myler so we can use all of the new cool features like record types and others that come with c. Sharp nine and eight at did. I did mean to say nine seven. Oh okay moving in the past. But ultimately i know there's a lot of lot of really nice language features that allow you run much clearer code in c sharp and just some of the things that we're used to from functional languages are definitely coming over to see sharp you were. So what's what's in your sharp team I really you know. I've mentioned the gaming before. I started digging in on that and so have asked some of our developer advocates and developer relations teams to do Unity tutorials for c. Sharp from from beginning for beginners so build off entire game in ninety minutes so they've started doing youtube Live streaming of building a game in. It's sort of paired programming exercise. I think it's going to be really cool And then the other thing that. I'm gonna probably ask the team to do is I keep an eye on whenever we have sort of a little swell of users asking for certain things or complaining about thing and so probably going to ask the team to do serialisation improvements ca notice. There's a few tickets that come in faster and make it better. Yes the there's always going to be those. Yeah never fast enough those thing but it gets you know you're the pm role you could see the this hit a critical mass where it's like. Better look at this as something narrada to prove well in the serialisation movements are interesting because we actually have unlike some of the other drivers in one of the I was interested in joining the c. Sharp team is that our serialisation infrastructure includes complete. Odium object document map. So it's you don't just have to work with documents you could actually say. I've got a customer i've gotten order. Are you actual pocos then automatically get translated into the equivalent document structures by the drive itself. So you can get your business layer abstraction level and what the driver worry. That is really cool james. Glad you're working on. That's very cool. 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The Palmarian Church: Clemente Dominguez Gomez

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The Palmarian Church: Clemente Dominguez Gomez

"Due to the graphic nature of this cult's crimes. Listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of abuse and exploitation that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen. Eight year old Joni had hoped her visit to south western Spain in the summer of Nineteen, seventy six would introduce her to a world of wonder but the disenfranchise town of El Palmar tra- left much to be desired. Joni gripped her mother's hand. As they tread the cobblestone street locals called her mother names and hurled rocks at her face Joni clenched her is shot and kept walking trusting her mom to guide her to the dusty field ahead when they reached it, Joni opened your eyes to take in. The scene beneath stars, hundreds of pilgrims waited all around at the far end of the meadow. A group of priests appeared like Pallbearers. They moved in unison carrying a short fat man in a golden gown on their shoulders. Joni stared as the priests Word Clemente Dominguez Gomez, mere inches from her without warning the seared dropped to his knees Joni, watched his body quake and thrash and Thrall D- She convinced herself that this was one of his infamous visions when he lifted his face to the moonlight she coward. His face was a mess. His eyes were missing and is sockets were filled with flaps of skin. He raised his white gloved hands to the sky revealing STIGMATA wounds like the ones Christ endured at his crucifixion blood streamed from the man's palms down his forearms and Joni screamed in terror. Hi I'm Greg Poulsen and I'm Vanessa Richardson and this is called a spotify original from podcast. Every Tuesday we look at a colts practices, their leader and their followers. You can find all episodes of called. Sinatra the spotify originals from podcast are free on spotify over every listen to podcasts this week in a one part episode we're diving into the Paul Marion Church a secretive cult that splintered off from the Roman Catholic. Church. In the nineteen seventies, the group's leader Clemente Dominguez Gomez believed God chose him to succeed Pope Paul the sixth the Catholic Church rejected him but Gomez continued his mission and eventually raised enough money to build a massive. Monte. Million Dollar Cathedral in Spain. Up Next, we'll put clemente. Dominguez Gomez under the microscope. This episode is brought to you by Casper you're most life changing sleep is about what's underneath with a Casper mattress? You'll get the cooling supportive company you need for the most refreshed feeling every morning only at Burger dot com. Clemente Dominguez Gomez was born and raised in Seville Spain the city that houses the Tomb of the explorer Christopher Columbus as a boy in the nineteen fifties. Gomez must have frequented the pioneers gravesite because of this influence, he likely crafted stories that his wayward father was a famed adventurer too. But when his mother suddenly died during his childhood Gomez quit idealising his father in part because his dad married a second wife who reportedly didn't like Gomez. Raising someone else's child and rarely spoke to the Poi- unless ordering him to do chores. Gomez father was rarely around when the boy complained about his stepmother it only pushed his dad farther away. This utter rejection may have sent Gomez spiraling towards disaster. Vanessa's going to take over in the psychology here, and throughout the episode please note Vanessa is not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist, but she has done a lot of research for this show. Thanks Greg University of British Columbia professor of social work. Edward KROC wrote a compelling article on Father Absence in it he said that children with absent fathers report feeling abandoned when their fathers are not involved in their lives. In addition fatherless children have more difficulties with social adjustment many develop a swaggering intimidating persona in an attempt to disguise their underlying fears, resentments, anxieties, and unhappiness. Finally, Father Absent Children May struggle with mental health issues like anxiety, depression and suicide. While not everyone without a father figure experiences these outcomes Gomez grappled with the effects of feeling abandoned. He felt he had no home and often ran away for days. When he was home Gomez struggled at this time he was likely discovering his sexuality and bullies kicked him teased him and shouted at him for being queer. As a teen Gomez began contemplating suicide. Luckily, Gomez, eventually had a change of heart. He decided to fight through the pain and was overjoyed when he finally found acceptance in his twenties, Gomez is rumored to have found refuge in civiles underground gay, community? At Night Gomez drew crowds in by performing bars a female impersonator, he wore outlandish costumes and called himself love voltage Oh. In English the name means but she felt. It was perhaps the first time Gomez felty belonged. He realized if he put on a big enough show, people might love him for it. The problem was that under right wing dictator. Francisco. Franco vagrancy laws declared gay men and women to be criminals. So even though Gomez had finally garnered positive attention society said that who he was was wrong due to the stigma of his sexuality Gomez packed up his wig and looked elsewhere for meaning while he wasn't religious he was desperate to fit into the social norm he thought Catholicism might help so he Applied to a seminary but was not offered admission on the heels of this personal defeat Gomez petition to join the military. However, an epilepsy diagnosis him from enlisting over the next two years he accepted a handful of temporary jobs but none stock eventually Gomez, secured work as an office clerk, but it didn't change the fact that the first two decades of his life felt like a string of major disappointments. But in March of one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, eight, a miracle occurred that reshaped Gomez entire existence. About forty minutes outside of Seville in a tiny farm town called El Palmar Day Tra four schoolgirls witnessed a dazzling apparition. One afternoon the four girls cut across a field to make it home in time to help their mothers finish the day's chores amidst the dust and green. They swore they saw the Virgin Mary hovering above a flowering mastic tree. The virgin was spectacular and a flowing gown a warm light beaming from within. The Children Race Thome to share their stories of the vision with their families before they knew it travelers from all over Spain made the pilgrimage to El. Palmar Day, try to see the virgin mother. Among the faithful travelers making the holy trip was curious twenty, two year old Clemente Dominquez, Gomez he'd read all he could about the girls visions, but he still wasn't sure the apparition was real. Once he arrived at the field he realized it didn't matter if the vision was real. What mattered was the story data loan attracted the thousands of pilgrims. So Gomez decided he discovered his own myth to spend to do. So he devoted himself to studying the Bible he attended dozens of lectures by various priests on apparitions Stigmata, and the end of days in time he knew he'd found a way to prove his life something. Gomez likely figured he could use the Virgin's appearance to swap out his lousy life for one of the utmost importance. Gomez left work and visited the field nearly every day to observe the pilgrims. Befriended Manuela alone. So corral a Catholic insurance manager who was also obsessed with the vision under the mastic tree. Naturally, the two men hit it off and met almost daily at the tree. They spent so much time away from their desks that they were both fired with nothing left to lose on September thirtieth nineteen, sixty-nine Gomez told, Chorale that Christ himself appeared to him in a vision. Then in December Gomez began to see and hear messages from the Virgin Mary. A million stars were out the night Gomez said the virgin mother presented him with his mission she demanded he rid the Catholic Church of Heresy And unbeliev according to Gomez. Mary told him to abolish progressivism within the papers tree and uphold the most conservative Catholic traditions he claimed she wanted. Him To strike down hidden communists and freemasons within the churches ranks she promised if he helped her spread, God's true word she'd honor him at the end of times. Corral was floored and Gomez had his first devout follower Gomez likely felt no remorse for telling the lie he realized from Corrales, reaction that the best way to collect followers would be to create to commotion. So Gomez staged a series of mystical ecstasy's near the tree with such charisma that anyone looking for a miracle founded in his performance day after day, he returned to the spot of visions. He shook his body rolled his eyes back in his head and appeared catatonic to signify his soul had gone elsewhere. While his efforts attracted attention Gomez, didn't gain many followers at first. He knew he had to kick it up a notch one night under a tree unbeknownst to witnesses. Gomez ripped into skin with a racer played lifting his hands to the sky he claimed to receive stigmata and called for sanctity. Gomez was a showman and it didn't take long for his plan to yield results according to his witnesses only the most devout. Catholics suffered stigmata Gomez proved to those desperate believers that his mysterious nail wounds were real. The blood was real day couldn't deny his holiness. Gomez's lie seduced hundreds who then shared it with thousands and so mark the beginning of the Paul Marion Church and his assent to infamy. Next Clemente Dominguez Gomez declares himself the true pope sparking vehement judgment from Catholic authorities Hi It's Greg. 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In the late nineteen sixties Clemente Dominguez. Gomez bold a group of religious pilgrims into thinking. He suffered stigmata wounds much like the injuries inflicted on Christ on the Cross. Before long he recruited a following of a few hundred religious zealots just spread the word that another vision of Mary would soon come again, one evening in nineteen seventy over forty thousand people gathered to witness the Virgin Mary's rumored appearance. Gomez seized the engineered moment and gave himself over to an attention grabbing display of spiritual rapture. His eyes fell back in his head. He lost control of his body and thrashed about he claimed he had yet another encounter with the holy mother. In the crowd were enraptured by the spectacle and word of this latest episode spread like wildfire within weeks, pilgrims lined up to join Gomez. He taught these new disciples that the end days was approaching. He claimed they would only survive by devoting themselves to prayer ritual and penance according to his particular provision Gomez established a super conservative doctrine declaring his followers. The chosen few destined to save themselves from hells depths the sears growing flock bought every word in nineteen, seventy, two, twenty, six, year old Gomez convinced a devout elderly follower to donate a huge sum of money so that he could purchase the field in. El. Palmar. Detroit. He guaranteed her the Virgin Mary would continue to appear there. The wealthy followers spent the equivalent of over two hundred thousand dollars to buy the site with this Holy Land. Gomez established a base for his church. He called the group, the Pole Marion's he had intentions of building a grand. Cathedral. But in the meantime, his faithful worshiped in the field which gave them their namesake for the next two years. Gomez ordained a handful of priests and bishops. However. Since he wasn't recognized by the Roman Catholic Church, his ordinations meant nothing this nearly changed in January of nineteen seventy six when he was officially ordained by Vietnamese Archbishop, no didn't took yet while archbishop took had the religious power toward Dane priests. He still needed permission from the church itself to do. So when the pope heard that took, it ordained Gomez, they rejected his ordination outright. For one thing Gomez priests had no formal theological education most just wanted to be ordained quickly without attending seminary but more importantly took hadn't bothered to get. From the Vatican beforehand, this act was considered illicit. So Church authorities quickly excommunicated. Gomez and took the Catholic. Church. Things got worse for Gomez on March Eleventh Nineteen seventy six when authorities discovered Gomez with sixteen of his clergy men wearing traditional priestly garb without authorization from the Catholic Church Gomez and his men were arrested though it seems like a small offense this illegal act of defiance against the Catholic Church, landed Gomez and the priests in jail. Gomez and his Pomeranian priests were only detained for a night. They spent the following three weeks in France banished or hiding out from Spanish authorities. When the group got home local newspapers lasted Gomez for disrespecting the church concerned about the bad press Gomez decided to head back to France where he wanted to build a new colony Gomez and his closest followers filed into a van and made their way to the French countryside. There he installed bishops and went door to door recruiting. Unfortunately someone already had hold on the region. Most of the locals already studied under a French mystic Paul law. The PALMERI were no match for laws influence within weeks even one of Gomez's newly ordained bishops abandoned Gomez and joined pool laws. Spiritual army since Gomez wasn't drumming up any support, he knew it was time to return to Seville with his tail between his legs but on the priests long journey. Home Disaster Struck. The streets were slick that stormy night in late May nineteen seventy six, their driver faced a perilous road through a windshield lacquered with rain gamez sat in the passenger seat while his closest follower corral and several other Paul Marion bishops prayed in the back though their driver had experienced with inclement weather. The storm was monstrous. Suddenly the priest behind the wheel realized he was about to miss his turn he slammed his foot. On the brake and cranked his wheel to the right causing the van to hydroplane, he struggled to regain command, but it was too late. Then spun in circles to a cacophony of horns blaring hot white, light flashed in front. Of Gomez, like lightning all of a sudden his head went back broken waves of shattered glass washed over him. He felt warm blood slip into the corners of his eyes as rubber burned all around. When the van came to a halt. Everything went quiet a moment later. Gomez. Felt rain tap his face. He looked up to the sky to Orient himself. But saw nothing except blur of the blackest red. Then he passed out. Days later Gomez woke in a hospital room in San Sebastian. Northern Coast his doctor said when the van's windshield shattered splinters of glass pummeled his is the damage was severe. The surgeon said they acted fast to completely remove his eyeballs to avoid infection the hospital staff informed him, but he would never see again. The tragedy sparked a major change in Gomez. Not a good one. He began to believe his own lies suddenly it seemed he had real faith. He believed his blindness was temporary a test conviction. Once he'd proven to, God he could withstand actual suffering the virgin mother would restore his eyesight when Gomez finally returned to El Palmar, detroyer his disciples nicknamed him the blind seer too many. His survival was evidence that God protected him. When he neared death's door following the accident the now thirty two year old Gomez doubled down on growing his church. He s corral translate his conservative teachings into a spectrum of languages to spread his message throughout Europe in every language Gomez created an air of superiority, his flock could latch. Onto it was now US versus them the chosen versus the wicked unsaved. The Paul Marion saw everyone as an enemy not only did Gomez preach against the official Roman Catholic. Church. He also denigrated Liberal Activists Gomez envisioned a Spanish Vatican and Palmar detroi-. When he dreamt of the Finnish church, he saw towering Pallister's elaborate arches, ceremonial vaults and ornate domes inside he dedicate jeweled alters to Jesus Mary Joseph, and variety of saints outside there would be five meter high walls surrounding the sacred house to make this vision a reality he collected tens of thousands of dollars from well-to-do believers and force church members to construct what he called the Cathedral Basilica of our crown. Burgeon, of Palma. Even while still under construction, no outsiders were allowed inside the cathedral though the sect flourished the prospects of the Cathedral weren't enough for Gomez. He had his sights set on bringing the papacy to Spain. Then in August of nineteen seventy-eight, Gomez got the news he'd waited for Pope Paul six who shepherded the Catholic Church for the prior fifteen years had died the night of the pope's passing. Gomez confessed to his most trusted bishops that. He'd sinned Gomez said he slept with a young man on the eve of poeple six death however, he said it wasn't of his own volition. He told his priests that Christ appeared to him demanding he sin. So he could fully forgive sinfulness in others. He claimed, Christ, promised him the papal crown after confessing to his bishops. Gomez assumed the title of Pope Gregorio the seventeenth of the order of the Carmelites of the holy face. He said, the name was divinely bestowed upon him by the Catholic, Church didn't see things the same way they elected Pope John Paul the second and ignored Pope Gregorios claim. Still, the newly self appointed Pope Gregorio had several orders of business. He couldn't wait to address. He immediately canonized the recently deceased Spanish dictator Francisco Franco. He also posthumously deemed fascist leader Ho San Antonio Primo de Rivera and explorer Christopher Columbus. Saints? Pope Gregorio marked such actions by hosting wild long parties where food and wine overflowed. The blind seer reportedly had relations with a bevy of sexual partners both male and female. As. The apparition of Christ had already given him clearance to Sin Brig oriole experienced. No shame. Gregorio enjoyed hearing the gasps from his acolytes when he regaled them with tales of his exploits, he was desperate for attention manic in his pursuit of it. If he said one thing but did another, he could keep his congregants focused on him. For this reason it seemed Pope Gregorio left no detail unmentioned not even when it came to relaying stories of sexual and continents having spent decades mutilating his own body to convince others he had stigmata Gregorio became desensitized to the practices danger under the hand of their sadistic anti-pope, the Pomeranian church glorified self mutilation as a means of penance. It has article the psychology of sado-masochism Psychiatrist, Neil? Burton. wrote. The status may derive pleasure from feelings of power authority and control and may harbour a conscious or unconscious desire to punish the object of sexual attraction. Sadism can also be a defensive strategy. So following his sadistic impulses, Gregorio endured his seat of ultimate power among his disciples. But the pain he inflicted on, them was more than emotional. It was physically abusive. This was most apparent in nineteen, eighty two when a young disciple decided to follow Gregorios. Footsteps. The boy deeply desired purity and wanted to be ordained in the Paul. Marion Church one morning after a stirring sermon by Pope Gregorio the novice ran to grab his Bible. Hell bent on finding a passage, the blind seer mentioned when he flipped to the Gospel of Matthew, he came across the quote if you're right eye causes you to stumble Gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. Without hesitation the boy snuck into the kitchen of the home. He shared with other devout followers and grabbed a knife on the way back to his room he repeated under his breath, but it was better to lose an eye than to be cast to hell the young Paul Marion dug into a hallway closet and shut the door in the blackness. He punctured his eye and muffled his scream writhing in pain. The Deputy Lt hadn't gone far enough. There was something else he needed to gouge out and throw away something dirty and evil in anguish. He lowered the knife to his genitals in one fell swoop the boy castrated himself finally chased he hailed and blacked out it was hours before any other follower noticed he was gone. It was precisely the type of devotion Pope Gregorio had always longed for earth. Up Next Pope Gregorio Act promiscuously while requiring his bishops and nuns to lead celibate lives. This episode of cults is brought to you by simply safe. 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In fact so many people have been using better help that they are currently recruiting additional counselors in all fifty states. Better help is an affordable option and our listeners get ten percent off your first month with Discount Code Freedom. Go to better help dot com slash freedom to get started. A Better H E L. P dot com slash freedom. Now back to the story. Throughout the nineteen seventies Clemente Dominguez Gomez defied the Catholic hierarchy again, and again he appointed himself Pope Gregorio and ordained dozens of basics and nuns according to the poll, Marian Church he drew in around ten thousand followers worldwide by the nineteen eighties though the actual number may much smaller as a sect grew he stripped them up confidence and instilled in them the fear of eternity in hell. In the case of one young devotee Gregorio inspired self mutilation to the point of castration while the young man was rushed to the hospital and survived Gregorio cast him out of the church. It was par for the course Gregorio only ever thought of himself and wanted to distance himself from a potential public scandal. He placed no value in his disciples who came from all over the world. Many of the international followers merely made the pilgrimage to Spain then returned home weeks later to recruit new members but were so taken with Gregorios Charisma. They stayed in Seville to devote themselves fully to a pious life before joining the conflict many women held jobs. But under poke Gregorio, they weren't allowed to pursue careers instead, he forced them to spend long days arduously digging ditches and laboring on the land. He only let them read his own work rule of the order and forbade them from listening to the news to protect them from the world's wickedness. Gregorio demanded the more devout nuns where crippling boned corsets long skirts and veils to cover their faces even during the hottest Spanish summers. At dawn his priests pick the sisters up at their convents in Seville in a fleet of White Vans and drove them to the basilica to attend long masses and devotions. Pomeranians believe they should accept agony as an active restitution for the sense of humanity. So. The nuns did their hard physical work without complaining. Pope Gregorio created more suffering his sect by keeping their lives unpredictable. He required long starvation periods followed by longer stints of forced eating the Palmeri Pope claimed this was in the Name of Penitence however, it's more likely that Gregorio merely wanted to stay at the forefront of their minds. Bill, the Cathedral was incomplete Pope Gregorio required as nuns and priests to enter its unfinished malls and attend his interminable masses. There Gregorio ordered his disciples to practice what he called, Brazos and crews. These were hours long sessions for devotees prayed standing upright with their arms extended as if making a cross. Finely. After hours of listening to sermons, heat allow them to return home around one thirty. Am when the priests drove the nuns twenty five miles back to Seville every day they screamed their prayers at the top of their lungs to keep the bishop drivers awake. Sadly, it didn't always work despite their best efforts Paul Marion nuns and bishops ended up in several traffic accidents usually they survived but sometimes the late night collisions were fatal. Though priests and nuns lost their lives. Hope Gregorio refuse to change their schedules. The grueling Labor paired with inconsistent food supply and lack of sleep deeply affected the physical and mental health. Paul, Marion's in some the torture even led to psychotic episodes psychologist Miguel, pair lotto treated several of Gomez. Followers Church, he said the young people who get out are lost. They have a big problem with their identity. They've been emotionally abused and brainwashed into feeling terrified of Satan according to Dr Lotto former Palmeri disciples continued to struggle with their mental health for years leading to some drug addiction and chronic panic attacks. While Pope, Gregorio forced his followers to live in austere circumstances key and his closest bishops enjoyed all Seville had to offer the blind pope dined lavishly with his men at the city's finest restaurants where they drank heavily, they often stayed in. Hotels in a way Pope Gregorio practice. Day Do as I say not as I do form of religious leadership but he never attempted to hide his bad behavior. Hypocrisy was well on display as he sat front row at bullfights and more nights than not frequented well known bars the inebriated pope was melodramatic bidder and slimy in his drunkenness. He accosted anyone and everyone hide from the attention. Perhaps he needed others to see him acting out. neuroscientist Bill Gordon wrote a piece called excessive attention seeking and drama addiction for psychology today in it, he rode excessive attention seeking is a brain wiring response to early developmental trauma caused by neglect newborns are extremely dependent on getting their mothers attention for survival the more their needs are neglected during early development. The more the child equates getting attention with survival and safety in turn the more he or she develops the belief system that it is necessary to go to whatever lengths to get attention. If Gregorios, mother and father were unavailable in his earliest years when he needed their care, then this could explain why his attention seeking patterns became locked in. On May Eighteenth nineteen eighty two thirty six year old Pope Gregorios desperation for attention reached new heights when he drunkenly conceived a scheme to defy the Vatican once again. Pope John Paul. The second had announced a visit to a convent in Albuquerque stormies where the remains of Saint Teresa of Avalon were kept. According to rumors Gregorio convinced several of his men to drive there with him and steal them once inside the monastic stonewalls a drunken Brig oreo and his inebriated men clang VIN clamored disrupting the quite contemplation of the nuns. Pomeranians had the sisters attention they called out that John Paul, the second was the anti-pope and they wished he was dead pilgrims who had spent the night of the convent pushed Pope Gregorio and his bishops into the street. Suddenly a fight broke out quickly, the nuns rang the convent bells as a cry for help in minutes abroal that began between a few people snowballed into a riot towns people rushed to the competent to take down the false pope at his man. Locals through vegetables at Pope Gregorio and his group though the Paul Marion's made a run for it, they were unsuccessful the villagers grabbed the bishops beating whoever they could catch. Then they drove one of their cars into the river. By the time, the mayor arrived to restore order the mob had lost itself in chaos. The villages cried Lynch them all. As they chanted, they beat Poke Gregorio and his bishops within an inch of their lives had law enforcement arrived a minute or two. Later, the unruly crowd may followed through with lynching the intruders. To escape the fight poke Gregorio, and his men hid in the convent until the National Guard came to the rescue. The very nuns they so flagrantly harassed treated their wounds that the Palmeri had disturbed the peace the authorities let them go. In the end the mayor of all day Daytona Maze likely feared that if you press charges, it would reflect poorly on his constituents though Paul Marion's got off Scot free. After his reception and album HR. Maze Potpara `gorio grew paranoid that there were adversaries everywhere to keep a tight watch on his flock. He prohibited his followers from communicating with anyone who wasn't a practicing Paul Marianne this meant that many members began to ignore their sons and daughters who didn't agree with Pope. Gregorio. Even if a family and live together, there was to be silence between believers and non-believers. One former member said his Paul Marion parents ice him out of their lives. After he left the church, his family refused to set a spot for him at the dinner table and gave him an ultimatum to leave the house within six months beyond emotionally abusing his followers. Pope Gregorio was accused of several instances of physical abuse. For one thing, he continued to encourage self mutilation among its members. In the nineteen nineties a group of Paul Marian priests sought hospital treatment after simultaneously piercing their penises with gold rings. According to the priests, they'd followed their holy fathers example as he'd previously told them that he'd mutilated his own testicles while they believed they were committing a holy act of penance. The sadistic pope just wanted them to feel the pain. He'd known his whole life he wanted everyone to hurt. As the new millennium approached Gregorio shocking behavior flourished in a drastic attempt to gain even more power over his disciples. He declared that the Bible used by other Catholics was false. It had been manipulated by evil people within the church. Gregorio said, he was divinely inspired to write a new poll, Marion, holy, book and wanted to circulate it as quickly as possible. His members accepted his word as Gospel and devoured the newly written teachings while news of the coming apocalypse would be disconcerting to most pomeranians rejoiced. They knew they'd be saved, but it seemed Gregorio at finally begun to reflect on his life in earnestness. By nineteen, Ninety, seven, the fifty, one year old realized that the Virgin Mary would not be restoring his eyesight and fell into a depression, his drunken outbursts and abuse became worse and more frequent. He admitted to having abused several priests and nuns. Between the mid nineteen, ninety s and the year two thousand, the numbers of his faithful declined dramatically. But Polk Gregorio continued to lead his most loyal members until March twenty, first two, thousand, five when the fifty, nine year old leader lost his life in ultra Spain. The rumor was he died during a vision while giving an impassioned Easter sermon but in reality, the cause of his death remains unknown. While his disciples mourned his loss, they anticipated the return of Christ at any moment of course, Armageddon never came meanwhile the rest of the world went on without a hiccup. Most Roman Catholics have never heard of Pope Gregorio. So his death meant nothing. Though. Church never recognized him. The Paul Marion's continued his legacy. After Gregorios passing his closest follower from the early days under the mastic tree. Manuel Corral assumed the Paul Marian Papal title as Pope Peter the second until his death in two thousand eleven. The POMERANIAN church still exists. The Cathedral was finally completed in two thousand fourteen after over thirty years of constant construction. Today the church is under the new leadership of Swiss man named Marcus Joseph Overmach who has called Pope Peter the third. The group targets the elderly and lonely as potential new members. They've recently launched a Palmeri Church website and are active on social media though the cathedral's doors remained closed to strangers inside Pope Gregorios followers still pray to the blessed virgin and await. Armageddon. Thanks again, for tuning into cults, we'll be back. 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Channel One-Nine #5

Over the Road

07:10 min | 1 year ago

Channel One-Nine #5

"Hello before we get rolling today. We have a favor to ask over. The road is conducting a survey. That will help us learn more about our listeners. And we'd really value your feedback. Could you take just a few minutes to tell us about yourself and share some things you like about the show after you listen to this episode? Of COURSE PLEASE VISIT SURVEY. Dot P R x dot org slash over the road to take the survey today. That's survey dot P r x dot org slash over the road. Thanks so much. Hey Todd dills here from overdrive for this week's Channel One nine. We're trying something a little different. We're getting off the phone and heading out into the World Day off when you come up. The question of the day is how do truckers customized trucks interiors? So we're taking a little tour. Of course there are as many answers to that. Question is there are over the road drivers but Daniel and Phil Snow here out of Harrison. Arkansas can give you a good idea of just how far some truckers will go to make a truck their own. We got married three months after we met. I mean I thought she was just going on vacation when she got into drive women. Fourteen years ago. She's still air. You know. Get rid of me. Daniel in Phyllis call their deep green truck. The goose that does is a nineteen ninety six freightliner plastic exile for actual tractor day droid powered with a custom hundred and forty inch bottled on it. One hundred and forty inch bunk. It's a pretty staccato workforce. Let's sleeper cab. Almost twelve feet long picture. The body of a small travel trailer say built onto the back of the driver's cab and painted to match. You're getting close to a good description of what the goose looks like two top stove and then I have a microwave conviction. Eleven Jeanette shower shower bath in the toilet dining table and all of it tastefully tiled floor decorated to theme that reflects the snow's faith so our basic overall fame of the truck is Christianity. Daniel show you around a little bit on the back wall. We used a cowboy nail nat across the center of the sailing. We have a cowgirl With a truck behind her Neilan at across and it says in God we truck I have a lot of Cherokee Indian blood in me so we made the front of the sleeper basically a tribute to the native American. That's actually a real ghost. Feather and feathers are very important in way of thanking. You get to feathers one for wisdom and one for courage but anyway. So that's the front of the sleeper. On the side over the dining table we built her a mantle and we made it a Western theme mantle with rope outline. She's not a real rifle a real pistol but I don't know I guess you might a thief. Thank it was if you grab it off the wall and then on the shower bathroom door we put an assortment of bickers each of our mothers so we add different things around to to be more like a home not just. It's not just the trump to us. It's a way alive. When we bought this labor it was out of a salvage yard. It's important to emphasize here. That customizing a truck is not just about style for day on Phyllis. It's really an investment in both their business and the quality of life Ivad quite a bit of health issues. I ain't GonNa say all of her due to my French fries as I still like French fries but we gutted all this out and just built it back the way we wanted it and by doing that we made it possible for us to eat a lot better healthier and we have we'd about nine out of ten meals in the sleeper. Not Anything you do at home. I mean there. The night we ate eggs bacon and biscuits and and then yeah. Shrimp and steak. He barbecues that we've got a barbecue grill that matches the truck to its green looking in here like a cake or anything going down the road. You Know Ball on my biggest problem is I can't hardly drive down a road smell and all that cooking on my okay. We gotta find a place to stop. I'm about to starve to death. I like to eat. And she's a good cook so it's a good combination. There's a world of customized trucks out there as varied as the trucking business itself. I've seen sleeper cabs built out with any kind of cooking equipment. You Can Imagine. Ranges Ovens Espresso machines and grinders foldout charcoal or even gas grills mounted on the deck off the back the exercise equipment weights stair steppers. Sometimes even an exercise bike. Along for the whole I know at least one trucker songwriter with a professional recording studio built into the bunk of his rig. Hey maybe we ought to get Paul set up with one of those WanNa see more. You can take a tour of the custom rigs section of overdrive online dot com. Don't miss the reader rigs photo gallery. We're owner operators upload their own trucks. You can also see the goose for yourself in all. It's gory search. Daniel Phyllis snow. That's spelled exactly like the white stuff that's for channel nine. Keep those questions coming. We'll catch you next time. Gentlemen nine special is a feature of over the road from radio. Topiary and overdrive magazine is produced by Ian Costs and myself. Todd dills who support from Lacey Roberts Palmar Hoffer in Jewish appear the trail. Joppy glass off your tail available now. From imperative entertainment in Texas monthly. A new tin podcasters called boomtown about the biggest whole building. History boomtown takes you to a rugged quarter of West Texas roughnecks and billionaire. Wildcatters are fueling boom so big. It's reshaping our climb in our economy and our geopolitics. 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026 Ryan Reynolds Legendary Peloton Trendjack For Gin Brand

Lochhead on Marketing

10:55 min | 1 year ago

026 Ryan Reynolds Legendary Peloton Trendjack For Gin Brand

"Thanks for pressing play. This is Christopher lockhead and this is lockhead on marketing. And on this episode. I WANNA break down a legendary trend Jack. That was just. I pulled off by celebrity actor Ryan Reynolds and his Gin Company now on episode twenty. Three with Palmar. We pop the hood the secret. Pr Black. Art called tren jacking in recently Ryan Reynolds. He's an actor. Who's quite famous in the United States of Deadpool Tempur fame and a bunch of other stuff? He also owns a GIN brand company called aviation and they recently pulled off what I would call the trend. Jack of the a year by inserting themselves into the controversy around a recent Peleton bike. Add as you may know Peleton put out this ad and to say it blew up with negative reaction would be a massive understatement. The peleton add shows a rich young couple where the husband gives his Clearly thin wife. An exercise bike and The world reacted very negatively and they suffered a massive decrease in their market cap up and on this episode. We're not necessarily going to get into. Why the Peleton add blew up but we are going to get into is how Ryan Reynolds Gin Brand Aviation and Hijacked or Tren Jack this ad to produce some legendary marketing. All right. My friends at net sweet are the category Queens and kings of cloud cloud business systems for high growth companies. And if you want to schedule a demo right now and receive a free guide called the seven key strategies to grow your profits. Prophets check out net sweet dot com slash different. That's net sweet dot com slash different to set up your free demo and your free growth guide today also also my friends at spunk. WanNa remind you that we are living in the data. Age and spunk brings data to everything every question every decision and every action action checkout spunk dot com slash D to e as in data to everything today also you can go to lockhead dot com and check out the show notes for this episode including the links to both the original Peleton ad and the follow up response from Av Aviation Gin and the news articles I quote in this story now. Hey Ho let's go. This is long head on marketing. The podcast that helps you develop a lens for what makes legendary marketing legendary posted by Christopher lockhead three times. CMO Godfather category designed and a high school dropout. The Marketing Journal calls and one of the best minds in marketing and the economist calls off putting to some okay so I it's important to know what the peleton AD was Of course there was this negative massive negative backlash the New York Times called the original Peleton. ADD CRINGE-WORTHY CBS. News reported that Quote Peleton's controversial. SIAL AD goes viral and sparks backlash and business. Insider reported quote. peleton's nightmare before Christmas. One point like five billion vanished from its market cap in three days amid holiday backlash and And the stock is down Yeah Significantly one point three billion from its market cap and they further went on to say backlash over holiday add has been widely panned as sexist tone-deaf Jeff and dystopia and in addition to that Peleton was forced to cut the cost of their monthly subscription service for they're Internet connected workout bikes so to say this thing was a marketing disaster would be a Putting it mildly all right. But I don't want to go oh too far into that. What I do want to get into is What happened next Reynolds who is the CO founder of Gin Brand Aviation America Sprung Brung into action and in a very few days for less than a hundred thousand dollars. They hired the actor who played the wife in the ad and shot a response. Response Ad and in the response ad it starts off by zoom in Shot on the The actor who played the wife and and she's clearly distraught and what happens in the AD is she's with a few of her friends in a bar and She's clearly broken up with the husband who bought her the Peleton and they're sort of Consoling her while she drinks. This GIN and the ad is funny and and Sort of captures yes You know what it's like to break up with somebody and And is a real jab at Peleton and they never even mention the name Peleton. And I'd encourage you to you take a look at it and this ad went massively viral. So here are the seven reasons why this was legendary marketing number one aviation Jin found underway to trend Jack the biggest ad flop of the year. And that's just smart number two. They did it radically fast. They acted in a matter of days. And just think about this for a second in most companies. Could they pull something like this off quickly. How many committees might be involved? How many lawyers do you think might be involved? I don't know how they did this internally but clearly Ryan Reynolds and his team at aviation moved moved quickly and they blew by any barriers to get this thing done number. Three Aviation's response was pitch perfect. People love their response. Aunts and as opposed to the original Peleton at which was to put it mildly way off pitch number five. It was radically creative. Live in the AD The actor has clearly left her husband. Who bought her the Peleton and again they never even mentioned the Peleton super radical creativity Number five the and aviation did was built to be viral and to the best of my knowledge it was posted on social starting with Ryan Reynolds twitter and then it showed up everywhere and to the best of my knowledge. It was not got a television ad that is to say they didn't even need to buy TV to get this viral ad Working for them number six This was a move that is virtually impossible for their major competitors major gin brands like beefeater or tanker to pull off. Big companies companies tend not to be able to move that quickly Frankly are often not that creative as I mentioned earlier. There's a squadron of committees and lawyers. There's and so forth that are in the way of acting quickly to trend Jack something and do something. Legendary and so many people think that smaller companies or startups are at a disadvantage to big brands. When in point of fact as it relates to trend jacking and frankly a lot of other things smaller nimble companies can move moving away that big brands can't and Aviation just proved that number seven. They did it for less than a hundred thousand dollars. According to The New York Times let me say that again. They did this for less than one hundred thousand dollars so they found the actor. They created the creative. They shot it and they did all of that for less than a hundred K.. And Look I don't know how big or small your company is but Most companies can afford to do one hundred thousand dollar marketing trend. Jack and that's exactly what they did number eight it makes them the good guys If you read what Reynolds has said about the AD In Yahoo for for example he says quote run. Yahoo reports quote Ryan Reynolds says he hired the actress from Viral Panitan ad because backlash can the alienating and then they quote him saying as an actor I can certainly relate to creating a piece of content or being part of something that is not well received and and how alienating that can feel and so they're they are clearly positioning themselves as the good guys and endearing people To their brand so the top seven reasons they did it quickly they They track the biggest flop of the year. It's pitch perfect. It's radically creative. It's built to be viral. It's impossible for major competitors to follow it's cheap and it makes them the good guys so what what does all this sort of mean for us in our businesses and frankly our brands. I think this is an example. That begs the question. How can we be radically addict? SMART radically creative and radically fast to trend Jack. The news to build our own brand and category and I think that's a question not not only worth asking but also answering in our marketing aright. We would like to thank my good friends at one life fully live dot org okay. This is the nonprofit helping you Dream Plan and live your best life. Check him out on the Internet at the number one life fully live dot org and giving. It's the time time of year forgiving. If you're looking for charity that makes a difference. This is a good one to contribute to my friends at bottleneck dot online helping you scale yourself with the power of a virtual assistant. 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Channel One-Nine #1

Over the Road

06:34 min | 1 year ago

Channel One-Nine #1

"Hey there and welcome to the Channel. One nine special. I'm todd dill's in case you're just joining us or wondering where Paul is and who I am. Here's the deal. I'm an editor at overdrive magazine. Meaning I spend most of my time writing about trucking four truckers. But for this podcast. I'll be hosting this series of mini episodes. Where we help. Answer your questions about trucking. If you're hearing this and you are a trigger then keep toned but bear with me. We'll be hitting some real basics. Start I channel one nine. We're going to talk about handling. Cb handles guess the only one I've ever really had was freak as infrequency because on the Radio Guy at our company I fix everybody's CB's you've well started out years ago Hall concrete on flat bed one of my buddies and said Hey Kanzi cowboy it stuck with me in the late. Nineteen fifties. The Federal Communications Commission started requiring licenses for anyone wanting to use a see. That's a citizens band radio. It was easy enough to get a license but CB's got so common that many truckers just didn't bother with it today the FCC truckers and others without licenses came up fictitious names for themselves shadow. I'm not going to get into the story about how I got that name. Even though the FCC stout requiring the senior license in the early Nineteen Eighties. Tradition of handles stuck around. They can be jokes because I used to weigh a hundred pound exercises in wish fulfillment. But I've gone by T. speed before but like slow and slower. Yes appropriated insults to if you Google the words Wild Australian bitch it comes back Dingo sort of. That's my handle Schreider. The heck are you might Crawford here. Might be the first trucker who told me that a CB handle meant to last is rarely something you give yourself given the handle beer cab. Because when he was sitting there drinking beer kept count of how many dad was he saved little tabs. Legit handle is a nickname that takes the reins and he looked like curly from a priest. Who just and he could sound. Act just like in fact Crawford gave me my own him like you're like a ghost. I'm somewhere all of a sudden you show up and would you be in everywhere and being able to write about everything. You need dose writer. That's W. R. I t. e. r. most writer chants. But how might Crawford became? The Mustang is a more interesting story. We're going on a ranch out in Colorado for one hundred dollars a week. He'd come off the road and the nineteen eighties to try his hand is a cowboy out in Colorado. Wow Mustang from out in Nevada or somewhere there you would come to know a wild horse. They name the force. Norman Norman. It was very friendly and he was very playful. He would come up behind you. And take you snows in Knox Cowboy hat off. He's like Mike took on the project breaking Norman to a writer and I can ride most anything. Well didn't always go. Well I climbed up in the saddle. Squeeze my legs together. Which was commanded to get into? You know go forward He didn't walk forward. It straight up. Did you ever try to get a saddle out from between your legs when you're eight foot in the air in coming down and there's no horse under you? I hit hard me the saddle still between my legs and I'm trying to breathe. Norman comes over and I swear to God. This is the truth is some other people. See It would verify norman. Come over then down. Looked at me like are you alright and lick my face like damn dogwood how everybody kept telling me. Mustang man and like any good handle the name stuck mustangs long career in trucking saw both the glory days and the long decline of the truckers. Today call it. The quote original Social Media Boards Heyday in the nineteen seventies when impromptu highway meet and greet for drivers. Cb coffee breaks some called. You got no guys at. You'd be driving down the road and see it coming on and Holler over a bear. Tab Is that you or hockey child is that you when friendships were forged over the airwaves. But we'd go along just BS in the Hallway. Always a social thing. Those things still happen but the steady rise. The cell phone did a number on. Cbs Culture among truckers on the vault. And everybody else cellphone. It became the downfall for a lot of things. One good thing makes it fairly simple to collect questions for podcast? If you've got a question about trucking dial seven six five four five four eight four four to ask the pros. He sure to state your name and location within a message. Gentlemen nine special is a feature of over the road for media. Tokyo and overdrive magazine is produced by Ian Costs and myself. Todd deals with support from Lacey. Roberts Palmar Hoffer and Jewish Shapiro. Thanks to the truckers whose voice you heard at the top. 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Bolivia: de la polarizacin a la victoria de Luis Arce - La Segunda Vuelta

La Segunda Vuelta

27:49 min | 6 months ago

Bolivia: de la polarizacin a la victoria de Luis Arce - La Segunda Vuelta

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Jonathan Palmar  The Reward of Seeking Approval Is Zero

My Worst Investment Ever Podcast

26:00 min | 3 months ago

Jonathan Palmar The Reward of Seeking Approval Is Zero

"I wanted my boss to pat me on the back and say you did a great job with this project. Good so i worked and worked worked hard on this project when i finally went to present. It they responded so nonchalantly just tossed to the side and told me that they'll get to it sometime next week. Had low fellow risk-takers in welcome to my worst investment ever stories of loss to keep you winning in our community. We know that to win an investing. You must take risk but to win big. You've got to reduce it. This episode is sponsored by east ons which offers online courses that help investors aspiring professionals business leaders and even beginners to improve the finances of their lives and their businesses go to my worst investment ever dot com right now to claim your discount on the course that excites you the most fellow risk-takers. This is your worst. Podcast host. Andrew stotz and i'm here with featured guests. Jonathan palmer jonathan. Are you ready to rock ready to roll. Let's go so i wanna introduce you to my audience. Ladies and gentlemen listen up. Here is the bio jonathan palmer. John palmer makes videos john. Take a minute and filling in for the tidbits about your life. I feel like that. Just encapsulates it perfectly one of challenges that we hear every day because i am a digital marketer that works on lincoln. That's really the heart of everything. If i had to expend a little bit more. But if there's one pet peeve that i have if there's one thing that identify as we help clients market their businesses on linked in is it is so challenging for individuals to develop an effective elevator pitch and on podcast every day. We hear it though. Go down this laundry list of different things but trying to encapsulated all or summarize it into a couple of words. Sentence can be very very challenging. So i'm not just teaching people how to do it. I'm also living in the more. That i could be concise and save people time the more i feel like bill invest in me. You know it's so fascinating. Because i mean i consider myself pretty good at writing and thinking about the listener and the audience and all that but every time i go on linked in and try to rewrite my bio and all that and i do this and i do that and i can't do this sometimes. I've done that. And then you just realize that you just create this ocean of lack of focus. And i recently focus my lincoln profile on one simple thing and i believe it is literally an undisputed unchallenged. Message i am your worst podcast host folk my worst investment ever podcast. That's it. Nobody's challenged me on it yet and everybody at it and goes this guy's nuts but they remember what do you have any advice for me or other people out there on linked in when you think about kind of what is the message and why would have to be so simple as i make videos. I think what it is. We look at our work. We feel like maybe it's just all of the way that marketing traditionally has been and just like the way that we communicate whenever. We're trying to sell something. We always feel like we need to pack in as much as possible like any time that you've seen like a sale in a store or advertising. What do they do like. You could super size your meal for thirty cents more. You know you could get a drink size larger. Buy one get one free like we're trying to stuff as much value in as possible where icy the challenge is in the fact that like for example a great piece of content for lake social media or something like that. You would think like. Let's say that. I wanted to create an article or a video or something opposed for social media and it pertained to here is how to build a house now. We can all agree. That if i got into the step by step process of building a house we could all understand how valuable that that took somebody twenty thirty years of experience to write it all out and go step by step. How many hours did they put into it. But if we were to present that as a piece of content or if we were to present that as our bio or or something like that provides with e book that is incredibly overwhelming. That is just too much and if i was consuming a piece of content that look like that it would be such a turn off because i cannot envision myself building a house. It's too complex. But if i told you. Hey i can show you how to organize your work from home desk. Now you're like wait a second. i could do that. Yeah like i could actually take this one little thing that he said and put it into action. So if there's anything that learned about social media is we need to provide actionable advice. We need to provide actionable bios. We need to keep it incredibly simple because if one it's the power of the scroll it's not like an a commercial where we're stuck there and we have to watch it. People will tune out so it's pension is such a sensitive think it has to be as simple as possible. It reminds me of when i go to audible. And i look for my next book and i look at one book. That's twelve hours in one book. That's four and i think i do not want to commit twelve hours. I just don't have it but this four hour one could be interesting. Oh wait a minute. There's a two hour one and sometimes in the world of business. I often tell people that if you make it long. It means you're putting all the work on the person consuming it rather than you figuring out how to narrow it down and maybe you could just have the over for the audience out there. I know a lot of my listeners are on lincoln and they they see the they see the power lincoln and they understand it but the truth is they're sitting there and they're going up andrew. I just don't know where to start and it's overwhelming when i look at some of these people. Just look at you. John as an example if i go to your linked in and look at what you produced all that i just don't know where to start and i just wonder if you could give them a little a little tidbit from all of your experience about where to start and how to how to really do it right. One of the biggest challenges that we have with our clients is. It's a confidence issue. So what will happen when you get started on lincoln. What do you immediately recognize. You have professional individuals that have thirty years of experience that you're competing against for attention. You have individuals with years of experience with video that articulate incredibly. Well maybe they have some acting experience. Maybe their professional writers. It's very quick and easy for us to feel overwhelmed. So what do we do. We tend to focus on the work of others. What i notice very popular is sharing articles. It's rephrasing paraphrasing other people's work because we don't feel like we have enough authority in order to take control and write our own content. We're so concerned about what everybody else is going to think of us. It's very juvenile. When you break it down right these insecurities that's like it goes back to childhood right. But here's the reality of the situation. We have played the tape to the end so many times in our own minds and what i mean by that is you've lived an incredible life. You've had some incredible experiences. But because you've played it in your head like a vhs rewinding it playing it forward over and over and over again it loses a lot of the sensationalism. It loses a lot of the special that it is but for somebody. That's here your story. For the first time on social media that has never heard that story before that has never lived it all of a sudden. It is brilliant. We all had those experiences in our lives. So i think the first step is recognizing that we try to go on an exhibition like we go on an adventure trying to search for the diamond. Which is that perfect article. That's going to resonate with a bunch of people when what you really need to do. Is you need to polish the rock within you and discover the diamond. That's inside because when you kind of polish it and you find a diamond people will come to you. You are the diamond. That people are searching for right. So i think that it's just rephrasing that reworking and just polishing your diamond creating a message that will resonate with people but it is all within. You just have to do the work to polish it. A few quick things in that for the young listeners. Out there at the vhs was a a method of creating and distributing radio but the other thing is remind me of the wizard of oz which is at the end. I can't remember the exact wording of it. But then i realized that it was within me when that's the journey and that's the search that we all go through realized that it was really within ourselves and so the last part of that that i'm thinking about is that so is what you're saying to try to think about stories and experiences that relate to your products and services to say here's why i created this or this is the problem i face a was that those types of things are the types of things that we should be doing videos on. Yes yes i think. It's good to be inspired by the work of others. I would never discredit that. So what i would do is step one. Go to like a buzz. Sumo or youtube type in keyword related to your industry on youtube filter by views. Why because on on google unfortunately or fortunately you have a little thing called. Seo so you can use a bunch of keywords to boost you in your position on google. But here's the secret on youtube. It's the number to search engine but you can filter by views so you can identify exactly what people in your target market are actually searching for so if you can develop a message around this thing that people are searching for you have experienced in authority with but say it in your own words you know. Basically if the challenge was. I'm not a good closer. Just crazy example. I wouldn't really go to youtube put in how to be better closer. Watch the piece of content. See how they approached it. How can i basically add some some steps to that process. How would i approach it. Given the same situation and then the next step would be start with a relatable subjects. Which is how many of us struggle with trying to gain new business or closing. That's step one. Make it relatable so that everybody is most of us have struggled with closing deals or you know negotiating whatever may be right so lead with that lead with something that everybody can relate with and then from there explain to people how you kind of approach that challenge what you experienced and how you overcame your fears of closing and now that you are past this point. You've gone through the transformation. What are some actionable tips that you could give your audience. So that they can apply it to their own lives and that is a perfect piece of content beautiful and don't worry about what other people say about it and all that so great steps go search for your keyword and also remember when you type in the thing about what your what your ideal client also typing in like improve my closure ratio as an example. When you type that in you also get a list of suggestions that come down as a drop down that i suppose is youtube saying yep this is similar types of searches that have sent people so if you're search and then then you kind of be able to really narrow it in and then filter by by views and then look at what other people are doing. And then think about how you face that challenge and then think about how you can make it relatable and then tell them how you went through them. And the beauty of what you're describing. I think for the for the listeners. Out there the beauty of this is that this is this brings us back to a word. I just love which is authenticity. When it's your struggle and you could be twenty eight years old and you're not thirty years experience but there's a twenty eight year old out there that we'd love to hear how you overcame the same issue that they're overcoming and that is the beauty of it is authenticity so if i summarize it right right got it well speaking authenticity. Now it's time to show your worst investment. Ever since no one ever goes into their worst investment than eight. We'll be tell us a bit about the circumstance leading up to and then tell us your story so we grew up with this belief that we need to trust in search for the approval of other people constantly. It's just human nature to want to fit into the pack so we're constantly searching for that. We constantly want people to give us the validation that were going on the right path and if you have any courage within yourself there's always going to be a natural poll to go after what you really want. As opposed to what standards are said to be like what status quo is so. I would say that that was my worst investment. Ever is the belief that i needed the approval of my friends. My family my workers anybody even an audience that was by far my worst investment. Because the time cost me the money that i wasted concerning myself with something like that. I had no idea when i was going through it but now that i've kind of stepped away from it. Yes like i recognize that. My worst investment ever was searching for the approval and validation of others. And can you as you look back when you were in the heat of that. It's that time in your life. what's it kind of makes you cringe to think. Why was i doing that. Why was i saying that. Yeah no it is. Sometimes it got pretty dramatic. I would put myself in some seriously uncomfortable situations. I remember there was one time that i wanted to complete this project. So bad and it wasn't even get to that part of suit. But i wanted to finish a project so bad so i put my heart and soul into a. We're talking about months. Upon months of sixty hour weeks working on this project putting my heart and soul into it. Because i just wanted my boss to be happy i wanted. My boss pat me on the back and say you did a great job with this project. Good so i worked and worked and worked hard this project. When i finally went to presented. They responded so nonchalantly just tossed it to the side and told me that they'll get to it sometime next week and that is when i recognize that. Was that breaking point. Where i realized like i put all this time into it. I should be proud of myself. But if i'm trying to get this person to validate me. I'm always going to be disappointed. And that's when. I started to reframe that people will always disappoint you because you're expectations will never match what they provide you. With light aid. They did not live it. They did not sit there sixty hours a week working on this project like you did not the way that you committed yourself to it. So that was the beginning of one. I started to rephrase my situation and get away from this belief that i need the validation of others and then against it gets a lot deeper than it was like parents. Parents like saying you need to go down this path. You need to do this thing right but it always leaves you feeling empty as more than anything else even if you do accomplish whatever the task is if it's not in your heart to be. This is what i really want. You're never gonna feel fulfilled. You're just gonna feel like it's a cup with a hole in it. You're just always searching for more of it. And i feel like i didn't get to the point where i started to fix myself. I suppose or. I didn't start to realize how bad of an investment it was until i started to build an audience and then that's when the that's when the awareness really started to kick in i can i say approval is like a cup with hole in searching for approval is like a cub when the it so tell me what lessons how you summarize lessons that you've learned from going through that experience of constantly searching for approval that it's there's there's no reward at the end of the end of the road there is no reward. Damn stop right there. I mean that. That just like smacks you in the face and ladies and gentlemen think about that carefully. And i think john's already mentioned it. That searching for approve or doing things for the purposes of getting approval is like getting a cup with a hole in it and then to say that. There's no return it shocking. I mean how many people listening to this podcast right now and people all around the world are literally working their asses off to do something to get approval and there is no return any other lessons. I'd say that. That was the biggest one but i had enough of those experiences because it's was not one. Large investment necessarily it was a lot of small diversified my investments and right i diversified my words investment so like partners and friends family all of that stuff but it always lead to the same return until i started investing in myself when i started investing in myself and doing the work for myself. Ben i started to see a return because it's not so much. The micro success is that you create for yourself lead up to the the big successes that you starts experience so when you cash out you can kind of like search back and look at everything that you've done and realize the fact that like i built something for me instead of sitting there and building building up the net worth of all of these other people building houses and castles for everybody else. When i started building my own home. When i started to build myself up i realize okay. I can live in this now. As opposed to trying to rent out space from everybody else so that was very powerful. And i think that if there's anything to take away from the experiences that we need to focus more on how we're building ourselves up how we're investing ourselves as opposed to how much we're trying to build others in spite of. Maybe how we feel if you can find somebody that you can work with. And it's a partnership where it's balanced and the give and take is equal than more power to you but if you're if the amount of effort that you're putting to reach that validation is not equal to the outcome that they provide you with then you'll never you'll never get the return that you want in yet so. Let me summarize what i took away from your story. I mean the first thing is you just flashed into my mind. A guy that i knew that said i said. Hey how. how're you doing today. And he was like. I just had a fight with my girlfriend. I don't know why she's so upset. I put in my five percent in the relationship and you think about. That's the way a person that you're trying to please probably thinking about you that it's your responsibility to put in everything into this relationship with the second thing. He reminded me of time i was about eighteen. Maybe nineteen years old. And i had moved in with a guy that i knew from junior high and high school who later became my best friend and later became my business partner in one of my businesses and he runs our coffee business here in thailand names dale and basically we're having some out somewhere and somebody was talking to him and he was complaining about something that david said or did in. Dale said to him. Because i was always a people pleaser looking for people and they all said something that just like blew me back really really knocked me and he said to the guy if you have a problem with that. That's your problem. And i just never. I was like wait a minute. You can say that and you can think that and dale taught me a real lesson that started waking me up to that so the idea being that this is my life. This is my decision. This is my thinking and some even going to like it and some people aren't and you know what that's their problem now. It's not like you're saying you know. I'm going to punch you in the face and it's your problem. That's not what we're talking about. But i'm living my life and i'm doing my things and you know there's going to be people that don't like it. That's there so that's kind of my take away anything you'd add to that. No i think that casselton. I think it's just it's recognizing like what other people think of us is none of our business. And if they're audacious enough to share something like that typically they're right those uncomfortable conversations that we build up their own minds like that like sometimes. That's exactly what we need to hear to. Just make. Click and recognize like yeah. You know you're creating that's the thing my boss. That did not give me the validation that i wanted. It's not his fault and that was the takeaway. When i left that room. I realized the mistake i made. He didn't make a mistake. He was actually really smart. He found somebody that was incredibly passionate that put a ton of time into the work but the fact that he was unromantic about my journey about what i went through and he could completely separate himself from the like he only cared about the results but we love to romanticize the process and say we did this that and the other but at the day most clients most people that we work with. What's the result if you had to go through. Xyz events great but the only people that are really gonna understand or respect that or the ones that are experiencing it in that moment added so based on what you learn from this experience in what you continue to learn. What one action would you recommend our listeners. Take to avoid suffering the same fate. I think it goes back to when i was saying. You have to polish your own diamond. You need to start looking introspectively and really begin to understand what is really important to me. Why is it that whether it's self love or maybe you haven't completely because we talked to people in their forties and fifties and when you have a conversation with them you recognize. They still haven't found themselves. I know it's super cliche to say but we really can't start to love and care for people until we start to love and care for ourselves. So i would say like nurture yourself as an investment. Really take the time to look introspectively. Figure out what you really want. What's really important to you and then have the courage to actually act on it. So many of us are feel like okay. Everything's good enough but the reality is if you can have it your way. What would that look like. Really take some time to write that down. Figure out who you really wanna be a place like lincoln. Right now is amazing for that because it is such a supportive community of individuals. And if you want to go out and try something. I came from a forensic accounting background and that was less than two years ago and i realized that that was not what was going to make me happy in life. I had another calling. But i had to have the courage to recognize it to look introspectively to write down what i really want to do. And then actually take the steps to make that dream come true. But they'd started with that breaking point recognizing that if i keep searching for the validation of others never gonna find what what really works best for me. Got it all right last question. What's your number one goal for the next twelve months. I make videos. I'm not planning tomorrow. I'm not planning week. I'm not planning next year. That's one of the things that i felt that challenged me the most is they tried to plan things out too far ahead just like any investment. They're volatile. they'll go up. Go down just like life so like warren buffett says just leave it alone planning anything. I'm keeping the investment there and we'll see what happens but right now. I'm not planning a single moment Listeners. that's a great way to think about it. Your objective really is today to be the best of you. Bring out the best of you and be authentic alright listeners. There you have it another story of law to keep winning remember to go to my worst investment ever dot com to claim your discount on the course that excites you. The most as we conclude jonathan. I want to thank you again for coming on the show and on behalf of e starts academy i hereby award you alumni status for turning your worst investment. Ever into your best teaching moment. Do you have any parting words for the audience. This wasn't the worst podcast ever been on. So i consider this a story a men and that's a ramp on another great story. Help us create grow and most importantly protect our well fellow retailers. This is your worst podcast host. Andrew stotz saying that. i'll see you on the upside.

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1376 by Wintec Saddles: Farrier Steve Kraus Explains Palmar Angles

Horse Tip Daily

15:13 min | 4 months ago

1376 by Wintec Saddles: Farrier Steve Kraus Explains Palmar Angles

"This is the horse radio network greetings. Everyone coach gen here. And thanks for tuning into horse tip daily episode. Thirteen seventy five brought to you today. By windex saddles. Today's tip is an excerpt from the horses in the morning. Show right here on horse radio network and this time show co host glennon jamie joined by farrier steve kraus from cornell university vet school and they're going to have a little chat about something called palmer angles don't know what they are We're going to fix that. We're going to get right to our tip. After we hear from our sponsors when tech textiles available now from leading retailers throughout north america the new and improved range from one tech. The world's favourite's saddle brand combining hard wearing materials with best in class technology. The range of new and improved win tech saddles. Now has something for every discipline confirmation and budget. The new specialist confirmation saddle models include the win tech two thousand high weather all purpose win tech two thousand wide all purpose and the wind tech pro wydra sausage. And that's not all improved comfort for you and your horse with super soft panels that mold in and around your horses working muscles for a closer more stable fit plus the amazing new saddle flap that contours around your horse. Channeling your thigh to improve contact head out to your local retailer and have a sit in one of the new and improved windex saddles or visit them. Online at wind tech saddles that saddles plural dot. Us win tech saddles dot us. All right let's get to our guest of course farrier steve kraus of cornell university we're going to talk about palmer angles what is a palmer. Ingo okay so simple version is up. We look at the site of the who are standing alongside them. And if we're looking at the front Limb where referring to the palmer angle. And if we're looking at the hind limb were referring to the plants are angle so we'll start with the front limb okay and as we look at the horse or we look at a radiographs of the works of standing of the lower limb. We can see The coffin bone on radiographs And the the Line from the bottom of the coffin bone to the ground as palmer angle whereas the line that goes from the coronary band. Down the front of the huffed to the ground would be your dr dorsal ango or your hoop angle that make sense yes. Telco is actually more important to the horse on what the palmer angle is. And think of when you think of palmer think of your palm going face down to the ground so your your palm of your hand the line between your hand and the ground can either be parallel. You can raise it up to a positive angle or you can lower it backwards to a negative angle. So that's another way to visualize it. So why is the palm rangel important okay. So that gives that true understanding especially if we have an x-ray and ferrier's have to develop x-ray is that they don't have quick access to a radiographs machine. But if you see a lot of radio graphs of the side you the lateral view of the horse developed a little sense of horses. That have What they're palmer angle is as opposed to. It's very easy to determine what the hook delays. Because you could see you know whether the horses upright or or a low heel long horse you can put a hook gauge on the front and get somewhat of a reading there and that could be important for doing standard bred horses and so on but the palmer angle actually tells us what the orientation of the coffin bone is. And that has more of a direct link to Upcoming soundness problems and things you can do to help that so can you see just by being a layman on the inside of the horse. Can i walk to the side of my horse and like you know what he does not have a good palmer angle like. How could i see that from just being next to my horse. That's that's really hard You have to see a lot of horses and lateral radio graphs but if a horse has that Very upright foot. Let's say It's likely you know like Measure the front of the foot With a hook gauge and of course that's very upright is above fifty five degrees on that angle and probably approaching sixty like what we call a club foot. Most of those horses will have a very steep palmer angle also which is probably above six degrees from from flat. Six to ten degrees on that bottom up angle That would correspond if the coffin bone with parallel to the front wall of the foot Whereas horse with a very long toe low. He'll probably has a flat or negative farm rangel. he's actually crushing backwards. On those sorts of lose a lot of digital cushion which is very important To the the soundness of the horse and and how they nourish and so on so You know usually a very selective to extremes that you can probably easily see so we've got going to say we got a club which so as a club we would see because they're kind of like the angle is a broken a little forward and then a long low he'll the horse would be a little bit broke back in that angle and putting a little too much stress on its he'll Both of those are fairly common especially with ideal. A lot off the track thoroughbreds. What are some of the ways to fix that. Because they can't be healthy for what's inside the hush correct. Yeah ask you get away from normal in normal Palmer wrangle with the anywhere from three to six degrees on that bottom of angles to the ground anything lower than say three degrees we call it a low palmer angle or or a flat farmer. Angle is parallel to the ground and then negative palmer angle which is actually falling. You know drooping backwards or anything above like six degrees is considered a high honor angle. So what we can do And and and there's various ways and there are different for different You know which which extreme you're on here with a low palmer angles. Which is i think One of the biggest problems that you see You can do some type of rock support who help Kind of boost that Depending upon again every one of them's different Some type of properly placed he'll wedge and help but again properly place. If you don't play these correctly you actually create more of a problem and often. The shoes are too short when they do this. And now you created a fokker that the horse is actually falling backwards on even further making that palmer angle that you think you're boosting up. You're actually making it worse because the fulcrum is too far ahead of the downward force of the leg. So it's kinda tricky you really have to pay attention to what's going on before you start putting wedges on these horses but some type of rock for their only Shortening the to- Whether he right trimming and using shoe modifications like a role toe all ways we work on. So what about the horse with the club foot. I mean you know i. I'm sure that a pretty picture would be to just whack up that hill. But that's gonna cause a lot of problems. Well you can do that. And and that's again a lot of confusion on this. You can take that he'll up because when you have these excessively high heel club feet that he'll is not going straight down it's it's migrating forward so again you've gotta fulcrum in the wrong place underneath the leg and so if you take If you trim all the excess he'll off and again their guidelines to do that with as you know only a professional should be doing then. You have moved that base support back under the leg and that's where you can put a wedge also you because now you have a lot of attention on the d flexes attendant. So you remove the excess. He'll and then you replace it with a wedge and that sounds why. Why would we do that. But it's where the basis of part is important not the fact that we have a wedge on or not if the base of support is further back and supporting the leg. There's too much tension with on the deflector out the wedge fan and so in some of these horses if you do this over time you can grow better off on that but and it won't be extreme it may be somewhat more normal overtime issues. So that's why you want to you. Take the high level that usually has a negative palmer. Angle on one foot and deep palmer rang on the other. You don't wanna make these feet match. You want to work on each one of 'em separately now. This sounds like something that a you know. A guy advertising his barrier services on facebook may not know is this common farrier knowledge or does this require an more extensive. Oh definitely more. Expensive education You know you know. I just went in a nutshell. What we may do but what we actually do is more complicated than they're right you other versions of it and it takes a little experience to you know do it. In a way that felt will the horse. So how can i. How can. I make sure that i'm finding a good properly trained ferrier that would have a club or something How can i make sure that the person. I have knows what they're doing well. The simpler method is word of mouth of a satisfied clients. That have used this individual and have had problems dealt with you know usually you know Testimonial type stuff is always the probably the best way of finding people who can get references to. I've worked on this kind of horse successfully and then I'm a member of the american barriers association as well as the american association of professionals barriers. And they both are very very big on this type of continuing education so anybody who is Has put themselves into this. Category has spent some time learning about what they're doing more than just nailing a shoe on. So that's a quite often very good reference right there that if you have someone who is a member of these associations awesome fantastic so again that's afa an a. p. a. I think is what you said a very very very good website. Tastic again steve. As always thank you for coming on and thanks for coming on short and delivering this speech. I think it's so important. I mean th this. Is the foundation of what our horses are. Based on you know no worse so the these angles are very important. Glenn argue starting to understand a little bit about what we're talking about over united pictures steve again. As i was asked to do this i was wishing. I could have a like a chalkboard and by i think people in in closing i think people are who hung up on the huff angles And don't understand the palmer angles which they should actually be worried a lot more about. What's the front of angle is and we see a lot of people wanting to make sure you put a hook gauge on. And make sure they're the same and what's his angles and all that and a lot of that stuff really doesn't mean that much. Compared to what the palmer angles are in the orientation of the coffin bone. So if you wanna see your ferrier sweat ask him about the palmer angles of your horse. The next time there there and see what the reaction is and if they don't sweat then you know you gotta get. That's right. I think they understand. You know they're thinking of that rather than just the outside of the foot and it's a really educational. Facebook page cornell barrier program has a facebook page go search for that and dubbed steve always on their posting. And doing some really kind of interesting cases and amazing thing. so it's Steve kraus certified journeyman farrier at the cornell university college of veterinary medicine the ferrier program instructor. Thank you so much. Steve and we look forward to talking to you again. Soon anytime to let me know thanks. Thanks bye and he is. Great does mean in tammy's been coming on our show for years. I mean i think what you said. Jan called him last night or other vet didn't show up so We had to Do do last minute. He always is good about that and talk about a topic. I don't think we've ever talked about palmer wrangles before. Well that about wraps it up. Thank you again to our sponsor. Today wind tech saddles. You can just google tech saddles and find out more about it or go to your local tax shop and say hey let me look at your wind tek saddles make sure to have all of your favorite horse radio network shows with you wherever you go by downloading the free horse radio network app for your iphone or android. Just go to your app store and download it today. It's free and easy to you. If if you don't know how to do that. Find someone who does. There's lots of folks out there though usually under the age of twelve and that about wraps it up. This is coach. Jen and until next time garage horse the horse radio network and the horse radio network hosts are not responsible for statements made by guests on the horse tip daily. Please use your own judgment when listening to tips on this show

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The Senate Passed a $1.9 Trillion COVID-19 Relief Bill. Heres Whats In It

TIME's Top Stories

06:15 min | Last month

The Senate Passed a $1.9 Trillion COVID-19 Relief Bill. Heres Whats In It

"The senate passed a one point nine trillion dollar covid nineteen relief. Bill here's what senate by elena abramson the senate on saturday afternoon narrowly passed a one point nine trillion dollar cove nineteen relief package a key milestone for president joe biden to ink his first legislative priority into law the avalanche of federal dollars which clock in at approximately nine percent of the country's gross domestic product includes fourteen hundred dollar checks for middle and lower income. Americans extend unemployment insurance through much of the summer and provides seventy billion dollars to increase vaccine distribution and coronavirus testing. The bill was passed entirely along party. Lines with all senate. Democrats supporting it and all republicans opposing. This nation has suffered too much for much. Too long biden said in remarks from the white house on saturday. Everything in this package is designed to relieve the suffering and to meet the most urgent needs of the nation and put us in a better position to prevail starting with beating this virus and vaccinating the country. The house which already passed version of the bill on february. twenty seventh is slated to vote on the amended. Text on tuesday before sending it to biden's desk so he can sign it into law. Here is a look at six major components of the bill direct payments for millions of americans under the senate plan individuals making up to seventy five thousand dollars in couples. Making up to one hundred. Fifty thousand dollars per year are eligible to receive a fourteen hundred dollar check individuals. Earning between seventy five thousand and eighty thousand dollars and couples. Earning between one hundred fifty thousand dollars. One hundred sixty thousand dollars will receive some of that money but not the full amount. The eligibility thresholds are a change from the house's initial version which kept the threshold at one hundred thousand dollars for individuals and two hundred thousand dollars for couples senate. Democrats lowered the eligibility for the stimulus checks to get all democrats onboard after resistance from some moderates in their party. The decision means that an estimated seventeen million americans who received a check under former president. Donald trump won't get one under biden. According to a study from a nonpartisan institute on taxation and economic policy biden said on saturday that the government will begin sending the checks to eligible americans. This month extended unemployment insurance current federal unemployment benefits. Which a lot an additional three hundred dollars per week on top of state benefits are set to expire on march fourteenth. The senate bill extends the program through september sixth at three hundred dollars per week for households. Earning under one hundred fifty thousand dollars. The first ten thousand two hundred dollars of the unemployment benefits are non taxable to prevent surprise billing at the end of the year. These were also changes from the house version of the bill which provided four hundred dollars per week through all twenty ninth. The reduction in unemployment insurance in the senate version was implemented to ensure moderate senator. Joe manchin a democrat from west. Virginia would not break with his party. According to a democratic aide expanded tax credits for families. The bill raises the child tax credit for most families in the coming year by one thousand dollars to three thousand dollars per child. It's even more for families with young children. Many can receive credit of three thousand six hundred dollars for each child under age six. All of these credits are fully refundable and some researchers say these measures could potentially help cut child poverty and half funding for state and local governments and public schools. The bill delivers a three hundred fifty billion dollar cash infusion to state and local governments and one hundred thirty billion dollars to elementary middle and high schools to help them reopen safely. Local budgets have faced steep declines in revenue as businesses remain shuttered during the pandemic last september. The brookings institute estimated that state and local revenues would decline by one hundred fifty five billion dollars in twenty twenty one hundred sixty seven billion dollars in twenty twenty one and one hundred forty five billion dollars in twenty twenty two. The money for schools is designed to help them improve their ventilation systems. Hire more janitors and reduced class sizes to conform with social distancing protocols. Democrats argued that this money was necessary to save public sector jobs and enable teachers and students to return to classrooms without risking their health. Republicans said that the funding already allocated through. Last year's relief bills was sufficient and that sending more money the state and local governments was superfluous relief for restaurants. The bill includes traditional fifty billion dollars in assistance for small businesses including more than seven billion dollars for the troubled payment protection program and a break from previous relief packages. This bill provides twenty eight point. Six billion dollars in grant relief specifically for restaurants which have been particularly decimated by the pandemic according to a january. Twenty twenty one analysis from the national restaurant association. The industry's sales for twenty twenty. Two hundred forty billion dollars lower than the pre covid nineteen forecast and over one hundred. Ten thousand restaurants had temporarily or permanently shut their doors across the country. This is a decisive moment for the independent restaurant and bar community. Erica palmar executive director of the independent restaurant. Coalition said after the bill passed the senate covid nineteen testing and vaccine distribution the bill allocates twenty billion dollars in funding for vaccine distribution including one billion dollars for the centers for disease control and prevention to launch a vaccine awareness and engagement campaign and seven and a half billion dollars for the cdc to set up back station sites across the country and monitor distribution. The bill also includes fifty billion dollars to increase cova testing.

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Channel One-Nine #3

Over the Road

10:23 min | 1 year ago

Channel One-Nine #3

"Hey folks todd dill's from overdrive magazine. We'll be back next week with episode four over the road but in the meantime I'm here with another Channel One nine special today. We're talking about music but do truckers listen to out on the road. A lot depends on taste of course so we went ahead and put out a call and see be garth Brooks Keith. Whitley Air Naval and down Harry Connick Junior Travis trid George Strait George Jones. Some familiar names in there for sure. But here's one you may not know ric that'd be the tone justice troops. She can can game between the labs. He's like the Merle haggard trucker songwriters. Both the quintessential example and inspiration to legions of others. County best. Tony Justice you're hearing right now. My Name's Tony Justice. I've been driving trucks just two thousand twenty years in January out of museum asleep. Tony is an old friend of overdrive so we thought well who better to run us through something but trucking playlist and greater fuel consumption mason mom shrinking and music. I don't remember the not ever beans in my life. My mother was an amazing singer. I mean she was Dolly Parton Loretta. Lynn Tammy wine all rolled up and worn and my dad was trucker. You know just I. Just don't ever remember the two not being a part of life. Over the past ten years Tony Justices paid tribute to many of the truck music classics at six days on the road from his first trucking team record and twenty eleven pitch. Roll down at eastern seaboard. Of course. Here's the most famous version cut by Dave Dudley. In one thousand nine hundred sixty three. Don't have cop inside stays on the road and I'm going on get home after it came out. Six days on the road was D- Template for truck driving themed music. We actually did a poll years back on the best trucking songs all time six days on the road came in number one among our audience owner operators inside the Rogan Omega home. Merle haggard now the old truck and big we use load AAC weasel in that right. There is another Tony. Favorites Merle Haggard. He's moving on. I like about tap. Music is just make sure mine is laugh. It'd be one in bad days a turn your radio on them and get your little escape for doing what the best no hat sounds kitchen teddy bear teddy bear by read so vine this one clocked in third on our poll. By the way I was on the outskirts of town trying to reach my destination before the sun went down. It tells the story of a young boy who talks to truckers at home over. Cb He inherited after his trucker father died in a wreck on the radio live and he song. The boy laments that he'll never get to ride in a truck again since his father's gone. I guess it's all over now. Manetti is gone and when he says this over. The air. Every trucker within earshot shows up for a convoy with teddy bear. That's the boys handled me riding in the lead truck. That kind of passion always been sending that triggers have always had and I think it's because we have so much time with our own kid as truck drivers in our family but just automatically at rising they tune when it comes to trudge journeys that we make as drivers for so many things that are comparable to the journey. Didn't everybody makes one of the reasons. Why trucking industry and then more than any other industry combined out forty acres this bigger and Tony's own songs have done a lot to rebuild the old bonds between music and trucking culture which had faded somewhat since one thousand nine hundred seventy S. I thought I'd let him play out with one of his latest singles which also happens to be quite appropriate to our recent episode about the history of trump song is called lasted the cowboys. Radical explains Prairies Rocky Mountain off to the distance sky black smoke side by side spoiled in Jerusalem. Y'All way we're the last of the campus go eighteen you run across Arizona six thirty or seven o'clock in the morning and you're cutting across that desert. You got winding down and radio turned up. That's why we do what we do. It can't really be explained but it makes you. It makes you feel like you know one of the guys at the phone. The Pony Express delivering the mail across the desert and to be there at a certain time. You know you just just get that same convenient. Last as American cowboy you know freedom freedom of the road and see that slowly disappearing vein is one of the elements that really poster Nest Song bolstered. Indeed last night check. The video had turned nearly six million views and yet all the success. Tens of thousands of CDs sold in truck stops walmarts and so much more. It's just not quite enough to peel the man away from his truck today. Justice pulls a dry box for transportation running out of Dandridge Tennessee and a peterbilt. He calls purgatory. That's IT for Channel. One nine back with more in a couple of weeks channel one nine specials feature of over the road from Radio Topa and overdrive magazine produced by Ian Costs and myself. Todd dill's support from Lacey Roberts Palmar Hoffer and Julia Shapiro. Paul will be back next week taking along his favourite mom-and-pop truck stops at Eastern Kentucky. Until then you can listen to. Tony Justices latest album at Tony Justice Music Dot Com and learn more about his truck advocacy work at trucker nation dot org and thanks to the truckers whose voices you heard over the radio. Top Mum were dock and Tinker Bell. The owner operators otherwise known as Daniel. And Phyllis snow justices fellow seeing Haller Brad. Shadow James Doug sparky has ner and Little Mama in the tech security and remember if you've got questions about trucks truckers or trucking. Leave us a message at seven. Six five two four five four eight four. We'll get an answer. Straighten froze last of the cow. Boy Thanks for listening to over the road. Another Radio Tokyo showed you might like is everything is alive. Host Ian Chile is coming back with the third season on March eighteenth and yes. It has been a bit. But it's worth the wait great performers. Like Tammy Sager Jason man-soo guests will be bringing objects like a chainsaw. Leather pants in an Oxfordshire to life. Here take a listen wool. Why don't we have you introduce yourself for us? Well what's your name? My name is Ian. My name is Ian. I'm near I'm Louise. I'm shirt I'm William and I'm pants just pants pants. I'm pants and you are shirt. So my name's Josh. I am a chainsaw. I don't think I have any friends. James shows up at a party. You know something has gone awry for you just saying your name is in because my name is Ian well. I'm not sure what my name would be. Otherwise what if no one is standing in front of you wouldn't be talking? Do you like being ironed. Do I like people. Don't really get ironed. Yup PEOPLE DON'T GET IRONED WILLIAM? That's why people wrinkles never go away. You should try getting ironed. Yeah I think you're great. Everything is alive is a show. Time magazine called. Laugh out loud funny. Surprisingly informative and often moving subscribe to everything is alive. Wherever you get your podcasts radio.

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History Had Me Glued to the Seat

Radio Diaries

10:33 min | 1 year ago

History Had Me Glued to the Seat

"Radio I xe from pure XS radio topiary. This radio diaries. I'm Joe Richmond in New York City up in the Bronx a few blocks from the park. Chester subway station. There's a sprawling apartment complex inside one of these big anonymous buildings on the eleventh floor. There's a one bedroom apartment now. The woman in this department has lived a pretty anonymous life but sixty years ago. She did something quite remarkable. It was actually a very simple thing. All she did was refused to move her name. Is Claudette Coleman back then? She was living in Montgomery Alabama. She's a fifteen year old African American girl in a segregated school and she just learned from one of her teachers about Harriet. Tubman and SOJOURNER TRUTH. Those lessons stuck in your mind a few weeks later on. March second nineteen fifty five. Claudette refused to give up her seat to a white passenger on a public bus. This is nine months before Rosa Parks. Do the exact same thing but claudette. Colvin has largely been left out of the history books today on the Radio Diaries. Podcast history had me glued to the seat. My name is Claudette. Colvin and I was fifteen years old when I was arrested for violating the Montgomery Segregation Law. Well that was a kind of teenagers that will not hair embrace everybody. S With balanceofnature straightening comb in. Pommie me. I didn't mind being different. Gumri this nice little southern town but everything was segregated. This is what color folks. This full white folks couldn't try on clothes in store couldn't go to the movie theater with a good movie coming. You know thing that teenagers like to do so. I knew that this was a double standard. This was unfair. My name is Philip. Hose I wrote a book titled Claudette. Colvin twice stored justice March second. Nineteen fifty five was a Wednesday caught. It got onto the bus with three other students and they all settled themselves into a row in the middle of the bus. The rule back in Montgomery at that time was ten seats in the front of the bus. Were for whites only and the whites always had to be in front Ed Uday ruled by Heart Alison near the window. The lies seat that was allowed for a couple of people as low as procedural downtown more white people got on the bus. Eventually the bus full capacity young white lady will stay near the full of us. She was expecting me to get up. The bus driver looked in the mirror and saw the situation said I need those seats and three of the girls got up and walked to the back of the bus and call. That didn't edges could move. History had me glued to the seat and people started yelling in the bus. Come on let's go. Let's move. He does way people complaining to each other. Talking Kentucky Pekka at the House moving target each other at know what was going to have. The bus driver called for a police officer and police officer boarded the bus and confronted Claudette. Gal Why are you sitting here? You didn't notice law. And I said I pay my favorite is my constitutional right. I remember they dragged me off the bus because I refused to walk ahead of me and they took me to an air dog jail. I had three charges. Asada battery disorderly conduct and going against segregation law. My Mom and dad got me out of jail in my dad's Colorado you know you put a lot of danger and a lot of danger he was worried about so repercussion from the KKK. As so that night he does he sit in the car. Shotgun fully loaded all night when she got to school. The following Monday after the arrest was very divisive thing on one hand. Some students were impressed by her courage. On the other hand there were many students who thought Claudette had made things tougher for them now and they didn't appreciate it one bit. Everything changed allows most of my friends. They'll Peres had told them to stay away from me because they said that I was crazy. I was extremists. There was precedent for African Americans refusing to surrender their seats to white passengers. What was without precedent? Though is she wanted to get lawyer and she wanted to fight. My name is Fred Gray. Bloated Cobb in walls mom I civil rights case. I received a phone call from her parents telling me about the incident. I was prepared to file a federal lawsuit to desegregate the buses but because she had not had the age experienced the maturity now the training and civil rights activities when we discussed it with others in the community. They felt that we should not do it at that time. My parents wasn't connected to the elite right. People later I had a child born out of wedlock. I became pregnant when I was sixteen. Natty fit in with either of you know someone that they would want to show off the other day one of the time citizens of immunity. Mrs Rosa Parks was arrested because she refused to give up a seat for why passenger nine months after to occur. Bus Stand Rosa Parks did the same thing. Forty two years old. She was a professional an officer in the ACP and it. Last African American Montgomery had its symbol. Better the all that I was being treated as a human being. I refused to give up this seat. I said no I wouldn't give it up. I do why the toes Rosa they our into military for them they want. Is someone mileage into your leg Rosa. They want to use a teenager. I represented Claude Cobb in the nineteen fifty five and also rose a prog. Dr Martin Luther King and what you have to realize is because there are literally hundreds and probably thousands of individuals like Claudia. Kaban and many others. You never see the name genetically that faces but they laid the foundation so that we could on off the Dr King's in the Rosa Parks today. I've ever find us old is it's good to see some of the fruit of my lay to me. Does about not being named long as we have someone thou Leo so weak Intel Album story in nineteen fifty-six about a year after Claudette refused to give up her seat. Her lawyer Fred. Gray filed the landmark federal lawsuit router versus Gael. This case ended segregation on public transportation in Alabama. The Star Witness Claudette Colvin. The story was produced by Sarah. Kate Kramer of Radio Diaries and edited by Deborah. George Ben Shapiro. I myself. We had help from Nelly. Gillis and Allie Post special thanks to the National Endowment for the humanities for supporting our audio history project radio. Diaries is a proud member of radio. Topa podcast collective from Pix to hear all the radio. Tokyo shows good radio TOVIA DOT FM. If you like what we do here please give us a review on itunes. That'll help other people find our podcast. I'm Jeff Richman of Radio Diaries. Thanks for listening Before we go we are excited to welcome a new show to the radio. Toby family over. The road covers the trials and triumphs of America's truckers with host. Palmar hoffer otherwise known as long haul Paul. Here's a sneak peek. I've driven a truck for almost forty years. Now some help from the good folks at Radio Topiary and overdrive magazine. I'm going to take you on a ride. Going deep into the world of trucking. We're a family to live at Marie. That lead it to hear stories of the past to step away from a huge strings on external changing today. It's the freedom of it and that's kind of being taken away. I'm long-haul Paul and this is over the road. The first episode Rolls Out February twentieth forever. You find your podcasts To find out more and subscribe good over the Road Dot FM radio.

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Le Quart d'Heure d'Inspir'Action

16:37 min | 4 months ago

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