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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on The Takeaway

The Takeaway

11:18 min | 1 year ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on The Takeaway

"On Tuesday president. Donald Trump announced his long-awaited plan for the Middle East as Israeli prime minister. Benjamin Netanyahu stood next to him. This is an unprecedented and highly significant development. Mister Prime Minister. Thank you for having the courage to take take this bold step for the plan which trump is calling peace to prosperity lays the groundwork for what trump and Netanyahu say is a two state solution but would in fact only a Palestinian state limited sovereignty it also gives Israel the green light to maintain control over its settlements in the long contested did West Bank region and address another contestant place in all of this Jerusalem under this vision Jerusalem will remain Israel's undivided divided undivided capital. Trump said. The proposed plan is a win win for both Israel and Palestine but the actual details strongly Longley favor Israel significantly Palestinians. Were not involved in the negotiation of this plan and rejected the proposal before it was even released. The so-called so-called peace plan's unveiling comes at a time when both trump and Netanyahu are wrapped up in political controversies here in the US the impeachment trial is still underway in the Senate and in Israel Netanyahu facing corruption charges while also preparing for yet another election in March. We're joined now by by Aaron. David Miller a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace Focusing on. US foreign policy is also former State Department Middle East negotiator in both both Republican and Democratic administrations. Aaron great to have you back on the shell great to be here. Also with this is Shibli Tuhami. A professor of government in politics at the University of Maryland and senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. Should we thank you for joining us and good to be with you. Tell US Aaron. What are the major points? Is that the president outlined in his plan. Yesterday I mean it's clear that What the administration is done in announcing a long-awaited long-awaited and I would argue? ILL named Peace Plan Has All kinds of Jack gives but Negotiating Israeli Palestinian peace is not one of them on the three record issues that are Germane and with which America negotiators Israelis Palestinians have struggled for decades What what to do about the territorial component of a two-state solution how to handle the very volatile and emotional Religiously driven issue of Jerusalem and the matter of Palestinian refugees and each of these Points the administration has come down solidly in my judgment On the side of Israelis requirements trivialising and ignoring Palestinian ones. Bottom line. Here to me is that yes this is about politics. It's about Netanyahu's domestic mastic situation. Trump's SERTA help him about trump's own reelection needs secure evangelical support conservative Republicans elect but above level. What's driving this plan and why it's going to fail is it? Reports to revise. Decades of American policy failed though it may have been on how to create in my judgment the least bad solution to the Israeli Palestinian conflict which is a two-state solution Chablis. It is striking even Orwellian for the administration to call this a peace plan. When one side was entirely absent? An even more striking I think is that this term peace plan. Dan has been adopted by much of the US media including the New York Times AP MSNBC. What if anything does this? Tell us well. This is really unfortunate. It does tell you that the trump administration has succeeded in some ways in framing the issue over the many months that has been talking about it as a peace deal deal of the century when in fact it it has very little to do with beasts. Certainly not even a deal between the Israelis and the Palestinians. What it is is a plan an annexation plan? It's really a plan to help. These really right. Implement what it has always wanted. which is the legitimize Israeli settlements annex Jerusalem annex other parts of the West Bank? And give the Palestinians minimal control in the territories where they live now. According to the plan Palestinians would be given a path to statehood if they need a set of tests. What are those tests? Well first of all. Let's think about what the even if they meet those. That's what we're talking about here. Israel would control the waters. Israel would control the Air Israel with control. The borders Israel would control roll the security even the past security path or the security for the past linking Palestinian enclaves in Israeli only territory and the past linking Jewish enclaves in alestinian territory So what we're talking about here. His non-contiguous territories were talking about very limited control. That would software meaning in the way we understand sovereignty as so. It's more like tawny than the state just did name a label given to cold state. The administration has repeatedly singled out Palestinian leadership. Trump's son-in-law jared Kushner was the driving force behind this peace plan and he spoke about the leadership very unflattering terms yesterday on CNN with Christiane Issue an-and poor. You have five million Palestinians who are really trapped because of bad leadership. So what we've done is we've we've created an opportunity for their leadership to either sees or not if they if they screw up this opportunity which again they have a perfect track record of missing opportunities if they screw this up. I think that they will have a very hard time. Looking the international community in the face saying they're victims saying they have rights. This is a great deal for them if they If they come to the table negotiate I think they can get something excellent Aaron given Kushner's hostile tone. What does that say about how? The trump administration is viewing the leadership. And all of this offering beginning. And I and I've had half a dozen means with Mr. Kushner and I have to say during their first meeting with him. I said to him jokingly. I wish my father-in-law has much confidence in me. As his father in law had him because he's given him mission impossible. Aw and I mean an unmistakable. Couldn't fix this problem. It's up to the Israelis and Palestinians with fair engine dishes. American mediations take the kinds of decisions. Visions that are required but from the beginning he clearly identified for me what he considered to be the major problem and that was a Palestinian leadership. That was dysfunctional. It failed Right now the Palestinian national movement looks like Noah's Ark. There's two of everything to statelets sworn in Gaza one in West Bank two sets of security services to separate constitutions to visions of where Palestine should be what it should be so this notion that the the Palestinians were the root cause of the problem has informed the the trump administration's approach to this issue from the get-go and it's reflected I have to say I worked for Republicans Awesome Democrats and voted for them to. I've never seen administration in the twenty five years. I worked on this problem more. Peter Naturally supportive of Israel. Aw applying ample amounts of honey at every opportunity and literally at political and economic war in confrontation with the Palestinians. Apply only vinegar nigger. This has been a central tenant. I think of the Kushner. Trump's Friedman plan from the beginning. You make Palestinians dependent on the Arab states and you make it unmistakably clear to them that they've lost and Shipley Rutley Br- brings up David Freedman as bankruptcy turning the logic for the I think for the trump administration is the following. It's Friday you get fifty cents on the dollar if you don't agree by Sunday it's twenty five cents an hour and if you're still not convinced By Monday or the following week we'll give you a dime on the dollar and that's the logic here and frankly I don't care where you stand or sit on on this conflict unless you really try to meet the corn needs of both parties and strive for a balance of interests not much difference in a good marriage. Good business this proposition. A good friendship each side needs to have their needs and core requirements met with the understanding that they also so neither compromise in an effort to reach a workable and equitable solution. That's not the trump administration's approach Shibli. We've been talking about the Palestinian leadership. Ed How are the Palestinian people respond to this. Of course they read it as cruel joke I mean. Do you think the Palestinian people think that jared Kushner has their interest in mind is is is a is a joke with a century This this is an administration that not only quote took Jerusalem off the table a very central issue every Palistinian and But also cut off humanitarian aid to the Palestinians and to the refugee agencies particularly Anwar In a way that has hurt hurt the Palestinians in a real way at a very deep level. So the obviously that's a joke And in fact when you read the documents say Ho. The Palestinians deserve listen. The Palestinians have suffered. I think it does sound to them like a cool joke. But with regard to the leadership undoubtedly you could make criticism of the leadership and I think it Sir Sir warranted and boasting themselves mic criticism. say this not Palestinian leader right or left moderate or hardliner Religious will nonreligious. Who in any shape or form could possibly accept any version of this plan so this is a joke also to say to blame it on Palestinian leadership Aaron while Netanyahu was in Washington this week? Israel's attorney general formally indicted him on corruption charges. How does that factor actor into this rollout? It's really interesting and we're really terror INCOGNITA here 'cause there's never been. An indictment of city is really prime minister charged with bribery breach of trust arrested fraud He played for immunity by a date. Certain but then he yesterday before with through immunity so technically fleet. Well he's now formally been indicted by the attorney. General as a as a consequence of withdrawing requests from unity and now the issue is when when to schedule a trial and The Supreme Court may actually have to rule on whether or not it is legal. Lawful assuming MS Renton now fears well enough in the next election and put together a government whether it is lawful for a indicted minister to actually put together a government. I suspect a rule in his favor. But Ju just one additional point in this you know aled merit former. Prime Minister was indicted although he resigned and formerly charged. I believe in two thousand nine. Ah The indictment was not upheld. Two Thousand Sixteen seven years later and then he served eight months in jail. This is not going to end quickly. What does A Netanyahu's political appointee. Opponent Ben Gone.

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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

10:09 min | 2 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on KGO 810

"And fear. However over these last days, the people who live there who are captive of the gangsters rose up in protest, and the reports say they demonstrated with a chant in Arab. We want to live which is fairly straightforward. They repeated it on social media as well. And they were met by so-called riot police who were brutal and savage, the HAMAs. Police Malcolm Hoenlein, Conference of presidents Major American Jewish organizations joins Malcolm, a very good evening to you to these protests. Where over these last days, I think there were four days of protests, and what is necessary is to interpret this given the breakdown in order in the. Palestinians together, the West Bank Gaza Palestinian, so we're very pleased to welcome our longtime colleague ambassador Dennis Ross. Dennis a very good evening to you. How to interpret the Gaza citizens themselves pushing back against this brutality? Is this a brave thing they've done or is this just another turn bad road? Good evening to you. David. Good evening. Look, I I think it's a. I don't want to say it crosses the threshold. Because it's clear to me that there is still a great deal. Of course, a power that HAMAs says to keep people largely under their thumb, but I would say it should be a reminder and for those who are oftentimes critical of the Israelis for the siege in Gaza. They eighty Israelis didn't impose it after they withdrew from Gaza. They in fact waited almost two years before they did it when there was a coup by HAMAs replacing the PA. Even though after Israel withdrew there were continuing attacks following the withdrawal number one number two. We've seen something that we've really not seen before among Palestinians. It isn't just that. There was there was this really manifestation of complete frustration and it, and it kind of exhaustion with the reality of life under you actually had a Palestinian set himself on fire and protests, and we saw that that was what was the trigger triggering effect. What was the so-called Arab spring back in the end of two thousand ten when we'll hollered Boise. They set himself on fire in Morocco. It's just it is. So it goes so against the grain. But it's such a reminder of how deeply oppressed people feel that they could be driven to something like that. And so I think it's too soon to say this is necessarily an indication that HAMAs rule in Gaza is teetering. But I think it's clearly a reminder that there is a a. Profound level of frustration among Palestinians against their leadership. And here I would say not only in Gaza, but in the West Bank is well, Dennis when detail they they they make a deal of in the reports that journalists were attacked is that significant to turn on the people who have been writing explicitly of the defensive Gaza. These last years, I think it actually is quite significant because in a sense what they're saying is you're not telling our story. Here's our story. And you're telling a different story. So we're fed up with the people who are who prefer to build tunnels for there to protect their weapons and their fighters, then to build a society that allows us to live which has had a chance we wanna live, and they're fed up with people who are telling their story who were in a sense distorting the story and somehow suggesting that this is more the Israelis fault than HAMAs fault, Malcolm to what degree is this a matter internal to amass massive. Versus its own Palestinian population of thousand people arrested as you said members of the press, excessive force we're told used and against the somewhat to two dozen or more protests that were taking place. To what degree does that factor into this to what degree is it against them as well is it against the economic internal economic situations to financial crisis they face and the the succession, the uncertainty that comes with it and the uncertainty in terms of the security hierarchy to what degree of these factors present as much as the tension with their own HAMAs rulers? I think the overriding factor within Gaza relates much more to Allen tolerable life is and a desire for HAMAs to adopt a very different posture towards them and not just towards them. I would say towards Israel. You know, you look at polling and Gazans would like to be able to work in Israel. And they see HAMAs is focused its focus continues to be on resistance, and it while resistance is kind of the calling card of the Palestinian national movement. Here. There's just a profound Simpson we wanna be able to live and you make it impossible to live. And I think that's the overriding thing now with Palestinian the West Bank. The other factors you were raising much more into it. There there's frustration. They view themselves as the weakest of all players. They view the division between the West Bank and Gaza between Fatah and HAMAs as a manifestation of a kind of very selfish posture on the part of leaders thinking of themselves, but never of the Palestinian public that I think enters much more profoundly into this. There is a there's a high degree of frustration with corruption. There is a deep sense that Palestinian leaders offer. No pathway, no vision. What do they stand for a increasingly what you're seeing both Gaza and the West Bank, a kind of alienated from leaders that seem detached from the public and in a sense up a symbolic posture towards the Palestinian future, not a practical. So what to what degree does the appointment of as the new prime minister factor in that is an interest to create a more stable and diversified cabinet. Does he have the ability to do it? I mean are they looking at session as a possible candidate for our bosses presidency and therefore see him as a as a future leader? This is the economist Muhammed sti- style style is an economist by training. He headed early on something called, Dr he later became a negotiator for the PA. It's a really, Malcolm. It's a really interesting question. I don't think that he is necessarily perceived right now is someone who could be a successor. But you know, he may decide that he has a potential for that. And if anything the what's happening in Gaza should also be a reminder that you got to begin to produce you got to begin to deliver something for people. And you know, the biggest problem he will have is. Can you really make decisions orders that that's still reside with Amazon I have heard people tell me in the last week that Obama's effectively saying, look, I'm out of this. You do what you wanna do. All I have to say, I'll believe that. When I see it. But I don't totally dismiss it. Either. Malcolm. Go ahead. I wanted to ask you about the announcement today regarding the Golan, whether you think that's what what impact this is likely to have both internally in the Palestinian communities and for any future negotiations. This is a remark by the president of the United States to regard the Golan is no longer occupied territory but under Israeli security sovereignty. No, he said it's time to recognize Israeli sovereignty. I honestly, I would have I don't know that's going to have a big impact on the Palestinians per se. I think it will have an impact on Arab leaders that will strengthen his hand to persuade Arab leaders not to be responsive to the Trump peace plan. I would much prefer the president or the administration to say look with Iran and his Bella. And the Shia militias embedding themselves in Syria, of course, Israel needs to be on the Golan Heights. It should have been said that way that actually could have create played on the Fisher is potential fissures between us on the Iranians. It would not have put the leaders in a difficult spot the truth is there isn't a single Arab leader today other than us who thinks the Israelis shouldn't be on the Golan Heights. But asking them in a sense to acquiesce in that asking them to acquiesce in. What is now seen is giving what they perceived to be here of territory to the Israelis, I think it makes their political circumstances. Is much more difficult. If they're supposed to try to find a way to respond to the Trump peace plan. So I I think I can see the political benefits for BB. But I don't see the the larger benefits for the administration in terms of wanting to pursue their peace plan and having it have more of a chance. Dennis. I want to go back to Gaza where we started. Sure, if I understand correctly, you see these protests as a significant development that there is there is some kind of leadership in the people who live in Gaza to push for four days against Tomasz. And that that that leadership has never been seen before is that how to regard these riots. Well, I think I don't know if I would say leadership, but I would say that there is a kind of almost spontaneous organization. It has it does have a feel to what you saw the end of two thousand ten two thousand eleven where there was just such a level of frustration. And in some ways, the loss of fear. I mean, maybe the most significant thing.

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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on KFI AM 640

KFI AM 640

08:24 min | 2 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"KFI AM six, forty more. Stimulating talk as dark secret place Brian suits here at a hyper classified area can tell you where it is here with the dark secret place because we're. All here on iheartradio real quickly a A Isreaeli newspaper is reporting that the head of the Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas is is. Telling The terrorist group HAMAs that if they cut a deal an individual deal with Israel now remember the terrorist. Group HAMAs they're the guys who run Gaza are the guys who shoot rockets into southern Israel. Mahmoud Abbas and the Palestinian Authority are the so-called more rational part of the Palestinian national movement, and they administered the West Bank that would be Ramallah a Nobelists and Bethlehem and. All that including all of, the Israeli settlers and their settlements that. Exists in the West Bank. The Palestinian Authority are very very good, at taking money from Europeans they sit on the radicals they have the guy who super radical they kick him out. And send them to Gaza where you can go and blow staff for himself up or whatever so I've always said and told you. That the Palestinian Authority is nothing more than a Ponzi scheme or a or a shakedown racket This. Is the ultimate shakedown that Mahmoud Abbas as told HAMAs if you guys cut a separate deal with the Israelis if. You take Isreaeli money to stop rocketing them then I I'm gonna withhold ninety six million dollars. In Palestinian Authority money and you're going to be short ninety six million and so he's talking, money to the guys who talk money the European contributions to the Palestinian Authority are. Several billion per year which, is why Mahmoud Abbas and the rest. Of his criminal crew are. Driving around Sadi's and living in forced, to reveal the whole thing because they wet their beaks and take it off the top on the whole thing and. Then they scored out a pittance to Gaza widely do that well because HAMAs the government that runs Gaza is officially a terror organization Even the EU calls him a terror organization the US State. Department designated them that fifteen. Years ago the e you did it several years ago and the the second the national governments of Europe designate HAMAs. A terrorist organization you can't donate or, you cannot, contribute any, of that NGO money that they've been doing for for decades, so how did they do it while they launder. It through the West Bank the laundrettes with the Palestinian Authority. And it's never been out in the public like it is today, that now Mamata boss coming out saying hey hey HAMAs if you cut a separate deal with the with the Jews that I'm cutting ninety six million out of your budget and what that effectively means by the way is. That's the annual amount that the leaders of HAMAs split amongst themselves. And, ferret away in Switzerland or or whatever so just just more corrupt Option that's all it is Okay So let's take you back to nineteen forty two to August. Nineteen forty. Two It is August sixteenth which was two days ago. Is Wednesday The US navy operates blimps on the west coast. East coast and, the the Gulf Coast of the United, States sometimes. It Alaska though the, weather in Alaska is very very bad Blimps blend so kind of a weird thing blimps are not zeppelin's and blimps dirigibles the. The US navy in towards the tail end of World War, One? Everybody saw the success said, the Germans had was, zeppelin's zeppelin's are lighter than aircraft that have a, internal structure it looks, like the inside of, of a submarine or. Ship right but they're wrapped in fabric so they're aero dynamic but they. Have tanks of lighter than air gas whether that's hydrogen. Very very unsafe or helium which is. Very safe and so everybody falls in love was, with zeppelin's after World War One the Germans bombed London with. Zeppelins in World, War One several times it snuck up, on them Of course, this before the advent, of radar because absolutely. Nobody's sneaking up on anybody in a blimp if he radar so the. The successful western powers including the United States saw the. Potential for. A her craft that was In, the air, for maybe twenty four hours forty, eight hours as long as he had fuel and it could observe it. Could travel hundreds of miles it, could drop depth charges, it could mount guns and you know by golly The US navy even mounted, fighters on the dirigibles the US navy had the US Akron the USS Macon the Osas Shannon doa there was an entire fleet of American dirigibles in the US navy service and then the accident started happening in the early thirties everything from bad weather to lightning strikes. To wind taking the dirigibles out of control off the ground is a very, famous newsreel piece of footage. Of ground crew guy who didn't let go the rope on time and he was taken up to about five thousand feet I, don't know why the zeppelin dirigible couldn't get down to a, lower altitude but some famous mishaps happen and so the zeppelin's the dirigibles in US service turned out. To be more trouble than. Than they were worth the navy slowly, retired them But the, navy retained its. Interest in blimps blimps. Are way different you know the Goodyear blimp but what does that that. Is literally a balloon that's been inflated with a lighter, than air gas helium not hydrogen and but the outer skin is so strong that it can actually hang what's called a gondola on the control area at the bottom of a blimp is called the gondola and that's where the pilot and the crew and usually the. Engines are placed and that's how the blimp gets control and thrust it has, rudders it has elevators I. It's not a bad weather craft it's a pretty decent weather craft a blimp can fly in bad weather it would really rather not so On this week, nineteen forty two. One, of the US navy blimps based. Out of the bay area with. A crew of two a US navy. Lieutenant and a US navy. Anson Lieutenant Cody was the captain and his crew member was an Anson they left Daly, city San Francisco. Early in the morning on the sixteenth of August nineteen forty two and they headed out on, a preplanned flight course to search for enemy submarines And blimps are uniquely capable of doing. That because they're up there two thousand feet and when the submarines at Paris cope death, depth it, looks like a whale and so the the blimps out the weather is good And the blimp. Is going to check in at the various turns and checkpoints but then something went wrong. And I'll tell you what that was when we come. Back the mystery of the, l. eight right after this dark secret place Brian sits in here till eleven here. 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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

02:13 min | 3 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on KQED Radio

"The significance of jerusalem began to send in the definition of what it meant to be is rarely and what it meant to be zionist it's almost like an exponential increase where the political significance of jerusalem the investments in housing to make sure that jews are living in this greater jerusalem everything increases the nineteen eighties nineties beyond for palestinians the city also had profound significance jerusalem was the center of the rallying cries of palestinian nationalism even in the inter war period and the cry that the mosque is endanger was a rallying point for palestinians for muslims in the arab world and beyond so jerusalem always had a deeply deeply powerful political and religious meeting for the palestinian national movement now israeli control means palestinians with deep roots in the city struggle to remain about forty percent of the population of jerusalem is palestinian many of them live behind a concrete wall part of the barrier israel built during a wave of palestinian attacks in the two thousands for them moving around the city can be a daily ordeal historian derek pencil our noses the us government like most of the world has maintained for decades at the status of jerusalem will be resolved sometime in the future through negotiation and this is why the moving the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem has such symbolic impact that was harvard university historian derek pence lar and now to our correspondent peter kenyon in jerusalem where thousands of people celebrated jerusalem day to day it's a national holiday marking the unification of the city under israeli rule following the nineteen sixty seven war hello peter electric jerusalem day is an annual celebration but is there a sense this is somehow especially year because of the embassy move yes i think you could say that people say there seems more enthusiasm it feels a bit more intense in part because the us is finally followed through on bringing the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem although a complete move is still likely years away the.

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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

02:28 min | 3 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Just borders that changed after nine hundred sixty seven this blend between nationalism and religiosity became much stronger and as it became stronger the significance of jerusalem began to ascend in the whole definition of what it meant to be isreaeli and what it meant to be as honest it's almost like an exponential increase where the political significance of jerusalem the investments in housing to make sure that jews are living in this greater jerusalem everything increases in one thousand nine hundred ninety s and beyond for palestinians the city also had profound significance druce lumber was the center of the rallying cries of palestinian nationalism even in the inter war period and the cry that the mosque is in danger was a rallying point for palestinians for muslims in the arab world and beyond so jerusalem always had a deeply deeply powerful political and religious meeting for the palestinian national movement now israeli control means palestinians with deep roots in the city struggle to remain about forty percent of the population of jerusalem is palestinian many of them live behind a concrete wall part of the barrier israel built during a wave of palestinian attacks in the two thousands for them moving around the city can be daily ordeal historian derek pencil or knows that the us government like most of the world has made detained for decades at the status of jerusalem will be resolved sometime in the future through negotiation and this is why the moving of the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem has such symbolic impact as we look ahead to tomorrow's embassy move let's go now to jerusalem where thousands of people celebrated jerusalem day today it's a national holiday marking the unification of the city under israeli control following the nineteen sixty seven war npr's peter kenyon is in jerusalem and joins us now hello peter i lecture jerusalem day is an annual celebration but is there a sense that this is somehow especially year because of the embassy move yes i think you could say that people say there seems more enthusiasm it feels a bit more intense in part because the us is finally followed through on bringing the embassy from tel aviv did you roussum although a complete move is still likely years away the embassador david friedman says he'll be commuting between the two cities for some time.

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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on Radio Free Nashville

Radio Free Nashville

02:05 min | 3 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on Radio Free Nashville

"Palestinians are a terrorist people and whatever they do is beyond the pale and i think the thing to focus on here is the use of snipers to gunned down people at at a sufficient distance from this you could see in the video that we just saw this vision distance from the fence that it is impossible that they could cause any harm to the israelis themselves so heavily armored israeli early soldiers with sniper rifles at hundreds of meters are are picking off systematically palestinian protesters or people who tried to approach the fence or whatever and that this is a policy that the government is proud of that lieberman is praising the snipers who shot down literally thousands of people i think it tells us a lot about israel's attitude towards palestinians that they are subhuman well i think one of the perceptions that's quite common i mean you said earlier that palestinians are now increasingly disenchanted with hamas and hamas not very popular in palestine and with the residents of gaza so can you explain why people still have the sense in fact than the majority of palestinians are sympathetic with or support hamas and how that sense a kind of emboldens israel to carry out the kinds of i mean this disproportionate violence of which we've been speaking i mean if you go back and look at the way in which israel has dealt with the whole issue of palestine and the palestinian national movement they always demonize whatever appears to be the leading movement when it was the plo or whatever they were terrorists they were beyond the pale you couldn't talk to them and the same is now hamas i think the interesting thing is not just hamas all of the political parties are discredited in the eyes of most palestinians are seen to have failed hamas with its policy of socalled policy of resistance which in fact is a sham hamas prevents people from firing rockets from the gaza strip it is carrying out without a security agreement the same kind of role of protecting israel that the palestinian authority and norma is carrying out with a security agreement and palestinian see that they see the cynicism of that.

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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

02:43 min | 3 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on KQED Radio

"The these days then the love him you're listening to all things considered from npr news president trump has recognize jerusalem as the capital israel but that doesn't change palestinian aspirations for a capital in part of the city one thing that could strengthen these palestinian claims would be national political institutions and here's daniel estern looks at how israel has worked for decades to limit those institutions whether their offices for leadership or even performances in theaters this used to be the palestinian headquarters in jerusalem an old stone mansion called the orient house foreign diplomats were received here the palestinian flag used to fly but israel closed it in two thousand one during a wave of palestinian bombings israeli authorities deliver a new closure order every six months it's on the door for everyone to see and they just your put it right here on the territory under its huq booed dairy heads the arab studies society which was based in the same building his library of historical archives is locked inside he has no access i give the dusty windows a spitshine and pierre an osce some books yourself your use fiber boudary says israeli authorities made him an offer which he refused one term they assert doors you can come on pick your books you'll archives on go outside jerusalem they don't want to see any palestinian institutions in jerusalem palestinian leaders want to establish a capital in east jerusalem but israel captured that part of the city fifty years ago under an agreement between the two sides in the nineties the palestinian government doesn't have jurisdiction in jerusalem israel says it allows palestinian social educational and economic institutions in the city but it prevents any political activity there by the palestinians national movement the plo or the palestinian authority which governs in the nearby west bank we ones a city to twowheel simple efraim inbar heads the jerusalem institute for strategic studies a conservative israeli think tank the city according to the majority of israelis is to be a united city under israeli sovereign sowa anything's it smelled solve piano we'll try to prevent israel did allow voting in the city for palestinian elections but it has closed many palestinian institutions here says maddie of though hady of the palestinian.

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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on NPR's World Story of the Day

NPR's World Story of the Day

02:22 min | 3 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on NPR's World Story of the Day

"President trump has recognize jerusalem as the capital of israel but that doesn't change palestinian aspirations for a capital in part of the city one thing that could strengthen these palestinian claims would be national political institutions and here's daniel esturine looks at how israel has worked for decades to limit those institutions whether their offices for leadership or even performances in theaters this used to be the palestinian headquarters in jerusalem an old stone mansion called the orient house foreign diplomats were received here the palestinian flag used to fly but israel closed it in two thousand one during a wave of palestinian bombings israeli authorities deliver a new closure order every six months it's on the door for everyone to see and they just your put it right here on literature is huq booed dairy heads the arab studies society which was based in the same building his library of historical archives is locked inside he has no access i give the dusty windows a spitshine and pierre in all i see some books michelle your newspapers boudary says israeli authorities made him an offer which he refused one terms they assert doors you can you can come under your books you're archives on go outside jerusalem they don't want to see any palestinian institutions in jerusalem palestinian leaders want to his abolition of capital in east jerusalem but israel captured that part of the city fifty years ago under an agreement between the two sides in the nineties the palestinian government doesn't have jurisdiction in jerusalem israel says it allows palestinian social educational and economic institutions in the city but it prevents any political activity there by the palestinians national movement the plo or the palestinian authority which governs in the nearby west bank we ones a city to twowheel simple efraim inbar heads the jerusalem institute for strategic studies a conservative israeli think tank the city according to the majority of israelis is to be a united city under israeli supplement so were any things a smith solve plo will try to prevent israel did allow voting in the city for palestinian elections but it has closed many palestinian institutions here says maddie of the hady of the palestinian thinktank.

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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

01:51 min | 3 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Or another of either foot full siege or highly restrictive the movement regimes since the early 1990s so that's getting on for twenty six years but then there are of course other distinctions between those who fled from areas of became israel nineteen 48 and those who weren't refugees to begin with uh these are social class differences if you like on the same happens within the west bank because the a similar fifty five percent of the overall west bank population are actually refugees from other parts of what used to be palestine so there are all sorts of issues here which for a very long time were kept united within a single palestinian national movement the plo but which in the past twenty years or so once the palestinian authority took over government in areas of in agreement with israel the political divisions the social divisions became more pronounced era i go over years of just but designer aga then the question and there have been jump into mowing her body if you'd like to after she's commented on this if if there is that degree of damage all states have obviously different classes and different ethic grows no lows of fissures in fractures within lots of countries but if if these divisions are growing and as deep as we've just heard can the palestinians in a two state solution actually successfully run the second state in that solution i think the question should rather be can palestinians this stuff than any state not necessarily than to say model i think the answer is yes i mean all of us what we share is the fact that we were ethnically cleansed from the land that has now monday israel or what is an historic palestine those that identifying feature carries over inter pretty much every single palestinian family in every single palestinian who knows what village they were from what part of a palestine ever from and of course.

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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

02:34 min | 3 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on KQED Radio

"One factor that is new and janine referred to it how how much it will actually translate into peace process currency is unclear and that is the increase in alignment for a variety of non peace process reasons between the israelis and the saudis i don't think the saudis are prepared to uh to go as far as the israelis may want with respect to normalization unless the israelis are prepared to make fundamental alterations in their approach toward the palestinians but i do believe since that spell has been cast on on uh mr trump and mr kushner that there will be a piece of this initiative that will look like coordinated sequenced and reciprocal steps that saudis and the other gulf states particularly the emirati says are willing to take with respect to some degree of contact with the israeli some degree of normalization as part of an effort to facilitate to supplement this is really follows dream track but but michael let's be very clear the arabs cannot and will not a rise up to replace palestinians as a negotiator they can nudge the process along but the court assertions that remain to be tackled are ones that the israelis and palestinians have proven uniquely ill equipped to tackle over the last decade and a half is there in your judgment more movement towards some kind of unity between hamas senda and fatah despite the fact that as you say i'm not one of us appears to be in a pretty weak position overall yeah i mean i think it's very intentional unity it's unity designed to ease the crisis of political legitimacy that airbus faces and ease the economic and political mess that hamas has gotten themselves in through into through any number of poorly conceived policies with gaza but is it really unity is it unity of one gone one authority one negotiating position that would in fact unite the palestinian national movement which at the moment looks still still looks like noah's ark are two of everything two constitutions two statelets two sets of security services two visions where palestine is and what it's supposed to be now it's not that kind of unity turned david miller push it you're being with us we have to say goodbye to you regretfully but always a pleasure michael and goodbye to hunting and janine thank you we will continue with hunting a janina will also continue with you our listeners in fact let me take this.

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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on The Tel Aviv Review

The Tel Aviv Review

02:19 min | 3 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on The Tel Aviv Review

"Where marginal israeli society and politics but they were marginal also in the palestinian national movement nothing the 50s but in the '60s mainly it took the palestinians about ten years after four to eight to start to organize their national movement the plo and so on and so forth and when the palestinians sarted to write about what happened to them and to try to see a better future for them the palestinians who stayed in israel where suspicious how come that they continue to survive under israeli control how come the jews are not expelling them how come that their fate is different from the seven hundred thousand palestinians will begin refugees so at these there were suspected to be collaborators something like that now the it took time for the palestinian national movement to build up to begin with and the palestinians in israel who wear still terrified from what happened in fort date it they have this thrown on post thrown roma of the fourth eight and they wanted only to a set of live to stay put in their places i think the littoral book fair and we'll be in which a shied the optimist is a wonderful a story about what the people thought about foreign says some of his sentences that somebody that the government expropriated half of their lands so this ad wow okay we are lucky the exportoriented half of our lands but we still have the other half if they didn't let him go out and work in the city a neighbor excitied this he said okay we are lucky that we have some or lives anther some fig trees that we can live we can survive while that if you jeez in the refugee camps that don't have their lousy of their homes so we are lucky so all they wanted at least is to keep what they have and to prevent more pain from the israeli side during that period.

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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on The Tel Aviv Review

The Tel Aviv Review

02:12 min | 3 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on The Tel Aviv Review

"If they will do the same thing expulsion on masako soccer's endorsed villages so because of those reasons and other reasons that i speak about them in the book people in the lower galilee and in the upper galilee stayed the remained in this area much more than any other area in the country but even in comparison to eastern galilee or the seashore area and was interesting what you point out about nazereth this consciousness of the western world do you think that set a pattern of the israeli policy dealing differently with christians and muslims over the years for sure but it started out because of the concern about western appearances appearances in the west of what israel is doing their sensitivity to word the i mean israel needed the support of the west without the support of the west in the u n and other institutions israel could not sustain its state but in addition to that israel had a policy of having agreements it cooperation with minorities in the middle east like a druze and christians for instance being gory on on the issue of leaders tried at least to have good relations with leaders of the druze even in jebel a druze in syria and the autonomy family the famous authors from ealy and with the christians the model nights and lebanon is some of those leaders even thought that israel will not be the only religious state in the region so little be a model night state in lebanon it jewish state and maybe add state and maybe a kurdish state and maybe kurdish states igman okay so we are jumping for almost see the roots of some of that time that's right that's right so yeah there was a differentiation in the attitude toward the muslims the bulk of the population are the muslims the leaders of the national palestinian national movement are muslims so they were viewed as the enemy while others other minorities.

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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

01:58 min | 4 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Difficulty finding the right in state i believe but it's very short on details does he acknowledged the fact that the twostate solution however imperfect perfect is probably the least worst solution to the conflict elsewhere in the takeover also mentioned that the variables in this longstanding conflict have actually not changed much as americans have tried to broker a peace deal over years and years and years well you know you were there for some of that what do you think the variables have gotten worse the regional situation is chaotic you of forbes stage melting down iran is rising you have two leaders mop unabomber boston benjamin netanyahu who rather than masters of their political constituencies are prisoners of their own ideology is you have a divided palestinian national movement hamas and fatah that basically looks like noah's ark are two of everything two constitutions to said security services two visions of where palestine is supposed to be and what it's supposed to be so i think by and large the climate for peacemaking i would argue is worse than at any time that i was in the biz from the late seventies through three there was one point uh in these tapes remarks were kushner seems to want to grab some credit for a recent wall or deal that was signed between the israelis the palestinians and the jordanians it was a deal that has israel basically providing more water to the west bank and the gaza strip which are really parched do you think this deal shows a white house that is more innovative than its predecessors while the israeli palestinian water negotiators sharon's ranked lear probably the one lone survivor of the wreckage of the oslo peace process and this is the oslo peace process from 1993 exactly israeli pet at housing water negotiations have proven we quite pragmatic they share common aquifers what it shows is that.

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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

01:58 min | 4 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Difficulty finding the right in state i believe but it's very short on details does he acknowledged the fact that the twostate solution however in perfect is probably the least worst solution to the conflict elsewhere in the takeover charleston mentioned that the variables in this longstanding conflict have actually not changed much as americans have tried to broker a peace deal over years and years and years well know you were there for some of that what do you think the variables have gotten worse the regional situation is chaotic you of forbes states melting down iran is rising you have two leaders smartphone about bosson benjamin netanyahu who rather than masters of their political constituencies are prisoners of their own ideologies you have divided palestinian national movement hamas and fatah that basically looks like noah's ark there two of everything to constitutions two cents security services two visions of where palestine is supposed to be and what it's supposed to be so i think by and large the climate for peacemaking i would argue is worse than an any time that i was in the biz from the late seventies through three there was one point uh in these tapes remarks where kushner seems to want to grab some credit for a recent water her deal that was signed between israelis and palestinians and jordanians it was a deal that has israel basically providing more water to the west bank and the gaza strip with chart really parched do you think the steel shows a white house that is more innovative than its predecessors while the israeli palestinian water ingratiation frankly are probably the one lone survivor of the wreckage of the oslo peace process and this is the oslo peace process for 1993 exactly israeli in pet bypassing water negotiations it proven we quite pragmatic they share common aquifers what it shows is that.

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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

02:25 min | 4 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Broker a peace deal over years and years and years well you know you were there for some of that what do you think the variables have gotten worse the region's situation is chaotic you a forbes states melting down iran is rising you have two leaders map when a boston benjamin netanyahu who rather than masters of their political constituencies are prisoners of their own ideology is you have divided palestinian national movement hamas and fatah that basically looks like noah's ark there two of everything to constitutions too said security services two visions of where palestine is supposed to be and what it's supposed to be so i think by and large the climate for peacemaking hurler you is worse than an any time that i was in the biz from the late seventies through three there was one point uh in these tapes remarks were kushner seems to wanna grad some credit for a recent water deal that was signed between the israelis the palestinians and the jordanians it was a deal that has israel basically providing more water to the west bank and the gaza strip really parched do you think the steel shows a uae white house that is more innovative than its predecessors while the israeli palestinian water negotiations ranked lear probably the one lone survivor of the wreckage of the oslo peace process and this is the oslo peace process for 1993 exactly israeli imperative alassane ouattara glaciations it proven be quite pragmatic they share common aquifers wanted shows is that the parties are ready let's call it tiny steps for tiny feet but it's a far cry from there to deal conclusively with what mr trump blunts the ultimate deal it conflict ending resolution between israelis and palestinians hit which is bruton so lucid wherever the years in in in to all claims and conflicts that may be in a galaxy far far away aaron david miller is a former state department peace negotiator his latest book is called the end of greatness the summer a record setting deadzone has appeared in the gulf of mexico this zone where water does not have enough oxygen for fish to survive while major cause of this is pollution from farms and this has provoked a debate about how to reduce that pollution is and pierced and charles reports a deadzone appears every summer in the.

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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

02:16 min | 4 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Difficulty of finding the the right in state i believe but it's very short on details does he acknowledged the fact that the twostate solution however in perfect is probably the least worst solution to the conflict elsewhere in the takeover also mentioned that the variables in this longstanding conflict have actually not changed much as americans have tried to broker a peace deal for years and years and years well you know you were there for some of that what do you think the variables have gotten worse the region's situation is chaotic you have flared states melting down iran is rising you have two leaders smartphone of boston benjamin netanyahu who rather than masters of their political constituencies are prisoners of their own ideologies you have divided palestinian national movement hamas and fatah that basically looks like noah's ark there two of everything in two constitutions two since security services two visions of where palestine has pushed to be in what it's supposed to be so i think by and large the climate for peacemaking i would argue is worse than at any time that i was in the biz from the late seventies through three there was one point uh in these tapes remarks were kushner seems to want to grab some credit for a recent water deal that was signed between the israelis the palestinians and the jordanians it was a deal that has israel basically providing more water to the west bank and the gaza strip which are really parched do you think the steel shows a uae white house that is more innovative than its predecessors while the israeli palestinian water negotiations rank lear probably the one lone survivor of the wreckage of the oslo peace process and this is the oslo peace process from 1993 exactly israelienne pet advancing water negotiations it proven we quite pregnant they they share common aquifers what it shows is that the parties are ready let's call it tiny steps for tiny feet but it's a far cry from there to deal conclusively with what mr trump blunts the ultimate deal a conflict ending resolution between israelis and palestinians hit which is from so so lose who over the years.

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"palestinian national movement" Discussed on The Tel Aviv Review

The Tel Aviv Review

01:56 min | 4 years ago

"palestinian national movement" Discussed on The Tel Aviv Review

"Everyone in the world can quote dubie weissglas and say it was all intended to freeze the peace process forever and uh was aroused iran's chief of stuff we should say yes and everybody can talk about how it was all a crafty way for israel to control this and continue this and the other the fact is for the palestinian national movement to have achieved a piece of territory in mandatory palestine that they control without israeli troops inside without israeli settlers inside is a historic thing and i don't think that the cynicism about israeli goals detracts from that if we're on that point i think the point that i was trying to make is not only about what was intended but actually how gaza is controlled and the un of course in their report on the lascaze award declared it under effective control of israel still because israel controls as you so well know the borders and the crossings on the airspace and population registry other everything other than wrath uneven that to some extent so it's a matter of also what israel actually still does about gaza today even if not inside gaza without a doubt but does israel control gaza more today than it did when its troops were inside gaza patrolling inside gaza city when tanks were going around in gaza city obviously the control as much less obviously palestinians encounter israel much less now they're screwed in all kinds of different ways egypt is screwing them now there are locked in but they are under less isreaeli control than they were when israel was there but it this didn't bring us closer to the anger activity if you look at the effect of the gaza disengagement on israeli public opinion that among the palestinians blechen in gaza it has taken us twenty years back to the levels of distrust.

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