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What you've done is incredible here? Maybe Charlie Kirk on the college campus. Won't you know we are lucky. The have Charlie Charlie running the White House. I WANNA thank Joe. He's an incredible guy his spirit his love of this country. He's done an amazing job job building one of the most powerful youth organisations ever created turning point. USA He will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries destroyed lives lives and we are going to fight for freedom campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Hi everybody I hope. You're enjoying your Thanksgiving week. There is so much to be thankful for. We like to say quite often on the Charlie Kirk show. You should be thankful not bitter that you live in the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world but while I hope you're enjoying yourself and seeing some family or maybe wrapping up some work We are here at Charlie. Kirk show on the front lines of America's culture war the front lines of the political battle for the soul of America. And we're here to interpret some of the news that I'm sure a lot of you are going to be hearing around your Thanksgiving table. We're going to give you the truth straight up and we. We are going to dive into the stories in ways that the media refuses to do so the first thing we want to start with is how the public support for impeachment falls off a cliff and is just boring. I mean I've had so many people that are non-political friends and family and they say Charlie might missing something or is this just over the top boring. I said no no. It's very boring and equally confusing. And it's the Democrats had these long almost soap opera style. charades where they had. You know the deep state murder on the orient-express crew where they paraded them in front of Cable Television They had vin men. They had a Marie Ivanovich. They had all these people that never actually were witnesses businesses to what happened but they were playing the game of telephone and overheard things. And how you're GONNA impeach a president behind that is astounding to me. So here's one of your talking points that you can in use around the Thanksgiving table with your family and your friends. This was a pre meditated impeachment against the president of the United States fact. This impeachment idea began eighteen minutes after president. Donald Trump was inaugurated in the Washington. Post where they said quote the case for impeaching. Donald Trump. Now begins Mollie. Hemingway in the federal suit is such a great job by the way she said this. How Republicans one phase one of impeachment? She said the following and I quote the first phase of impeachment did not go well for Democrats and needed to be a time when support for the inquiry and impeachment grew instead. It shrank and quote the some really interesting polling to reflect this. Yes and it's from Emerson polling. It says support for impeachment flipped from forty eight percent in support with forty four percent opposing an October impeachment support. It was ahead by four percent now forty five percent opposed and forty three percent and support opposition for impeachment. Now ahead by two percent a net six percent shift but but again we have to break down these polls beyond the top headline in national numbers. And I'm going to do that in an add. Some context that I think is really needed here especially with this new Marquette University Law School poll and hang tight before I get into it because after mine back injury I know a hardest to stay in shape. It's more than just losing weight. It's a whole holistic lifestyle. It's not just about working out. It's not just about waking early going for that morning run. 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Donald Trump especially in the critical state of Wisconsin and Wisconsin. Johnson actually might be the bellwether state if you come from the presumption that President Donald Trump will struggle to win Michigan and Pennsylvania. Might not struggle is the right word right but there could be very competitive but he will probably win Ohio Iowa North Carolina or Florida. In fact he has to win. Those states and Arizona will the way. The electoral map works in order to get to two eight hundred seventy electoral votes. Wisconsin would bring him over the top. You might remember back in two thousand sixteen president. Donald Trump won Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania and a singular electoral vote in in Maine which brought him way higher than people thought he actually broke the three hundred electoral vote threshold. Something that people thought was nearly impossible but now in the key. State of Wisconsin impeachment is now a wedge issue against the Democrats fifty three percent of voters in Wisconsin. Do not think he should be impeached and removed from office so amazingly early that his these impeachments numbers are actually higher than some of his poll approval. Numbers which means that people might say. I don't like the guy but why don't you. He just beat him next November in an ironic twist of events impeachment might actually be contributing the president trump becoming more popular in these key states. In fact as president trump does more rallies and goes out does and communicates the American people. He's going to win more voters over by talking about the outrage and the injustice and the double standard of this ridiculous and Asinine impeachment process so basically on Mollie. Hemingway talked a little bit about this. About how the impeachment flipped lipped but the Marquette University Law School Puhl showed that it's underwater by thirteen points. It's amazing and by independence are the key according to Emerson. Currently the forty nine percent of independence oppose impeachment while only thirty four percent supported so among independents impeachment underwater by fifteen points. This goes back to one of our big points that I'm making on the Charlie Kirk show and one of the big kind of thesis is that impeachment is now in electoral winner for president trump. Not Loser impeachment would usually be a US this way to try to sink the approval rating of the opposing party. People are so against impeachment. This will actually contribute to his rising approval ratings. The smyth be really tough news for the coastal elites the people that are in the Malibu or Manhattan demographic. I always like to say that the Democrats are becoming the party of wine slippers. Zippers and the Republican Party has become the Party of beer drinkers. There's a lot more beer drinkers than wine suffers in this country. Let me tell you what but guess. What the impeachment sham is failing And there's a pretty pretty solid analysis from the Great Tucker Carlson over at Fox News specifically regarding independent voters. He says the following quote independent voters were asked to rank eleven issues in order of their importance. First on the list was fiscal health. Seventy four percent of independent voters said that the budget deficit was their main concern. Seventy two percents. That healthcare was their main concern. Certain seventy percents that infrastructure pretty conventional impeachment. That came in dead last eleven out of eleven. Only thirty seven percent of independence thought it was a priority at all the margin of three to one and that is hilarious. Independent said that peach was more important politicians than to the media that was them and turn crossing continues which I think is one one of the most important points and he says the following. This is what happens when you let Jeff Zucker. WHO'S ETTA CNN? Run Your political party you start to imagine at CNN's Primetime lineup somehow speaks for America. ARCA rather than for a tiny out of touch little part of it and quote so tucker hits it perfectly here which is there are simultaneous confirmation bias platforms happening in our country. And I think it's so important kind of on our team. We always like to say twitter is not real life and you have to remember cable. News is not even real life. I mean even Fox News which is an amazing platform that I'm honored to be able to go on and I'm very appreciative. Thankful for that platform they will at the top reach five or six million people. I really know heavily watched night. That's not even a majority of the country where our country three hundred and forty million people were a country where one hundred million people will vote and the two thousand twenty electra in more than one hundred million people will vote and CNN. They might get a couple hundred thousand viewers on a good time and maybe a million viewers if they're really lucky but look the bottom line. Is People stop watching these impeachment hearings. They stopped caring. Only about ten million people were paying attention to the impeachment. Hearings and paying attention is like a really loose term. What is paying attention even neat meet that you had an under the background while you're doing your job paying attention? People are not locked into this like they were in the cavenaugh hearing so here. Here's the big question that I have. I have a very very big question question about the difference between the left and the right and it's a point that no one has answered and I sent a tweet about it this last weekend. But I'll say two questions and I'll do the other other one in just one second with the first question is what was more watched the cavanaugh hearings or the impeachment hearings. The cavenaugh hearings were way more. Watch why well first of all failing a Supreme Court vacancy has much actual longer-term implications then believe it or not even the impeachment of president of the United States. Because if you impeach the President I mean the assist basically stays in place the vice president who ran as a ticket with him will take the presidency. There's an assumption around that there's not much movement but a supreme court nominee any that's culture. That is huge trajectory changing policy and personnel. Not to mention all the nonsense of accusations around Justice Brett Cavanaugh and all around. I have another question around the impeachment hearings and the main difference between the left and the right and this is the argument that all of you guys is needs us against your liberal answer liberal uncles or liberal brothers or leftist parents. It's the single question that can show you conservatives. Have the moral high ground in America. But I I'm sure your feet are hurting. 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Confirmation hearings he was interrupted over two hundred times. I with two hundred people arrested and during the fake impeachment hearings against Donald Trump is not one conservative that interrupted interrupted or protested during any of the testimonies. Why is that and you're trying to tell me that? Donald Trump is the one that is dividing America. You're trying to tell tell me that. Democrats are the ones that are trying to heal us. You're trying to tell me that conservatives are the ones that are tearing America apart from the scenes. You're the one I mean. The media is trying to tell tell us that Donald Trump is a unprecedented frets republic. Donald Trump is the one that is tearing apart this country. I can't even have my children watching by the way I am so sick and tired of hearing this argument I heard someone in the grocery store the other day. I overheard them and they said I just. I just can't have the news on. I have my kids. My teenage kids listen to this president and and I laugh. I say all the left has done. My entire life is Rob Children of innocence. That's all the left has done. And all of a sudden they're worried that president tweets a little bit too much or might use some swear words here and there from doing sex education for nine year olds or having drag Queen Child storytelling our whatever they call it trial mild drag queen storytelling. Our all the left does is rob people of their innocence. That's all they do and now they're letting kids they say that kids have to choose their own gender kids live in a perpetual state of confusion. They don't wake up on time. They abdicate responsibility. And that's okay you get older and you have more responsibility you get more mature and yet the singular thing that gets people most upset Malibu Manhattan in West. La In and in Greenwich Connecticut. The thing that gets the suburban soccer. Mom I'm so fired. Up is his tone. I can't let my kids listen to this present. Meanwhile they send their kids to public schools where teachers are glorifying. And Hyper sexualizing. Our culture. Where kids as young as eight nine years old? Are we watching graphic pornography where the language on network television is as as horrible. As as I've ever seen it and kids are playing unbelievably graphic violent video games and very very young age. And I'm not. I'm not inherently against video games. I'm not making that argument. I'm just saying Oh Barack has done in. Our Culture is Rob Children of innocence. And now I have to hear the argument from these left now. These newly found liberal suburban soccer moms who are basically the ones that are pushing forth this argument. They're basically the people that are the most Let's just say vocal around around the fact that Donald Trump's tone is so unacceptable yet. They are silent when Palestine high school which is right down the street from where I went to high school. I went to Wheeling High School district to fourteen and right down the street and Palatine High School in two eleven. They have now decided in that school district that a man who thinks he has a woman canal. Go into the women's locker room. In fact I WANNA play sound of this young lady in a daily Herald interview. Daily Herald is the local paper for the Chicago suburbs. I used to read it almost almost every morning in highschool for mostly the coverage of the Chicago suburbs high school sports coverage just because it was kind of fun to read about yourself in the paper the next day but the daily Herald did unbelievable video. I saw it on twitter. Where they they see this man who thinks he's a woman and of course we shove love and empathy and respect for this individual and their dignity however that does not mean you uproots or societal norms and rob women of their privacy and their capacity to be able to be with other women in the locker room so one man who thinks he's a woman could go into that locker room under the auspices of as the ACLU civil rights? Let's play that tape. And I'm I'm really hoping they vote for It's going to be a step forward Gordon Progress I'm I'm really excited if they vote for it A bit nervous though as Soa's just you never know no but it's definitely for step forward in in many more stops It's a great policy Unfortunately it's not everything and we want such as talking about even even less hall things like changing the name on your student. ID which are required to wear at all times So I'm really hoping that the district makes the right decision here votes. Pass it pass and I was making appeal and now oh I'm ecstatic. Just take uncomfortable that My privacy is being invaded as I am. The summer I do Change Multiple Times committed in front of the other students in the locker and speaking I I understand that sport has an obligation to all students talk about this in a different way that would also comedy central and so where are the people that are so worried about the president's tone tone that are speaking out about the fact that now men think they are women. Go go into locker rooms in Palatine high school so this is the question must ask your liberal relatives and leftist relatives where airworthy protesters. And why were the protesters treated like heroes by the media and why conservative groups insanity protesters the decency and respect for even the process assessed that the left does not deserve to let this process. Play out. It's because conservatives have the moral high ground in today's political times it's because there is no conservative urban antiga they're not conservative. Going around wearing Maga- hats bashing leftists in the face where people like myself get death threats. And people like Ben Shapiro. And so many other Steven crowder and Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity have to walk around with armed guards. The reason is because they are the violence and the outrage on the left that is normalized and when people interrupt like they did in the cabinet hearings and for those that don't remember it was one interruption after the other interruption. After interruption. After interruption after interruption it was over two hundred of them not to mention the protesters that were storming the elevators and confronting senators and bullying their way into the Senate office buildings things and yet not once during this entire peach mint hysteria. Do you see conservatives walking through the halls and what the answer that question is and by the way for those of you that ever ask questions. WHO's a really good rule? Never asked a question that you don't know the answer to just a nice little rule of thumb. Do you know what the answer to. That question is most conservatives. Were at work we were working. We don't have time to go protest and flood the Senate the Hart Senate Office Building. I say that somewhat sarcastically in facetiously but more specifically we as conservatives a whole ourselves to a much higher moral standard and we police our own bar better than the left and the media are the worst this the media are gatekeepers that validate their extremism stream ism that reinforce the worst aspects of the left wing movement and normalize it from Antifa to people dachshund individuals and still to this day. Zero people have been arrested for the assault of Andy no in the streets of Portland a day journalist who was just doing his job and reporting and yet zero people have been arrested from it so to kind of tie this altogether. There is only one person who's actually been able to make entertainment out of this impeachment mess and that person is the president of the United States President Donald Trump at his famous Turkey. Pardon he made light of this entire impeachment sham. I laughed. I thought it was very very funny. It was very well put together. Play tape thankfully. bread-and-butter has been specially raised by the Jacksons to remain calm under under any condition which will be very important because they've already receive subpoenas to appear in Adam shifts basement on Thursday through hundreds of people. Have it seems the Democrats are accusing me of being too soft Turkey. But bread-and-butter I should note that unlike previous witnesses you and I have actually actually met. It's very unusual very unusual in any the event. I expect this part and we'll be very popular. One with the media after all Turkeys are closely related to a vultures. I don't know if I like deadline but there is a little true student today. After the birds will retire to Gablers rest at Virginia Tech. There's the president of course being himself and he's just making a joke of Adam schefter. My favorite line is he's I've actually me and the Turkey of spent far more time together than some of these witnesses witnesses that they parade together on Capitol Hill. It's a total outrage. This impeachment champ is deteriorating in front of our very eyes. Hold your ground. This thanksgiving when people try. Try to save this. President should be impeached. Ask them this question. Can you cite the specific. US Criminal Code that President Trump has violated and if so why have the Democrats not introduced. I any sort of conversation around the specific criminal code not this Innuendo not. This open worded hyperbole of bribery. And oh he's he's shaking people down or quid would pro quo show me the. US Criminal Code you broke specifically you can't point to it because he did. President trump did nothing wrong. The only thing ever did was make people's lives better including your liberal liberal aunt who still hates the press. The United States is going to try to convince you of it but you can wink and nod and say well at least your life is better even thanks to President that you say that you hate. Hey guys I'm sure sure. A lot of you are going to have that beautiful Thanksgiving meal than lineup around to get some deal For Black Friday. But there's no need to go crazy I'm Linden. You know ahead of time about an amazing black Friday cyber Monday deal something. You're actually gonNA use not something that you're GonNa buy. Forget about it's called wireless ear. Buds are headphones from Rakhine. 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They assured that they could advance the country's agenda while in the middle of an impeachment But like as if not putting the country to an impeachment proceeding isn't big enough deal will they can't do both. And now we have proof one such policy in one. Such example is the United States Mexico. Canada Trade Agreement the US MCA according to the International Trade Commission. That trilateral trade deal with boost our economy by a whopping sixty eight point. Two billion dollars while creating one hundred seventy six thousand new jobs jobs across the country now Pelosi says there might not be time to approve the US MCA before the end of the year. Even if she accepted a deal given a golden opportunity to prove that they could quote walk and Chew Gum at the same sometime Democrats have let this vital relation languish while they indulge their impeachment of session and Still Democrats are doubling down breaking today house. Judiciary Committee schedules their first impeachment. Hearing for December fourth witnesses will be legal experts on. My Gosh is going to be a mess. We also saw what looked like it was going to be a Democrat defection only to see Rep Brenda Lawrence Democrat from Michigan. Flip back and resume her support for impeaching trump. This all kinds of ties together with I said earlier. That president trump is becoming more popular during this impeachment. Nonsense Johnson and guess what The New York Times. That's right The New York Times has come in to reinforce this point. According to New York Times they had this piece that said they voted Democrat. Now they support trump and I highlighted one part. That's really important that two thirds of battleground state voters who chose trump a twenty sixteen but select the Democrats and midterms say they will will return to the president next year. This is massive. So I want you to read into this. But does not these people that supported President Trump and sixteen that they've pulled and it also voted for Democrats in eighteen meaner coming back that means that when president trump did really really well in states like Missouri and Indiana and Republicans have really well in Ohio. That shows that president trump's rust belt base is as strong as ever and look Democrats would be freaking out about this and understand that war and Sanders Harris and even radical mayor. Pete people to judge are no moderates Biden has even been pulled far to the left where he used to be but his durability top spot I mean it's been somewhat impressive given how weak the front runner he is but he can't be a front runner in states. Like Iowa New Hampshire. He's third or fourth at Bassey's already lowering expectations there. This is a great quote from voter that I fully represents the the typical midwest swing voter the worker. Who has the shower after work I say that a lot. I think the Republican Party has to be the party of people that shower after work. A Michael towns towns in thirty eight high school educated construction worker and done more. Pennsylvania was a lifelong Democrat until he voted for Donald. Trump is what he said. Here's Michael set quote in the last couple of years. The Democrats had kind of been losing the work and I thought trump might get us that work he said and be honest of construction. Twenty one years and the last years of the best years I've ever had and quote. He voted for Democrat in the midterms because he liked the ideas. On less polarizing local issues like veteran affairs and opiates while he said that the Republicans to focus on Washington politics he had been intrigued by Bernie Sanders. But he'll probably be back to Mr Trump again. He said everybody that right. There is a New York Times making a microcosm argument for the millions of middle class awesome Africans that are not part of the wind sipping group Malibu in Manhattan. But they're part of the folks at shower after work the people that are much more likely to have a beer and not wine and and they are the backbone of our country. The People in Missouri Montana Michigan the states that President Trump won so convincingly and guess what the Metropolitan Coastal Agenda is not going to work in the battleground states that matter. But I've always been a contrarian do not get too confident. Do not get too confident. President trump despite doing very well in this all kind of setting up nicely for his reelection. I believe that the Democrats are gonNA have plenty of secret weapons to come out the New York Times Washington Washington Post Beltway Alliance. They are very desperate. They're into everything they can to go after trump supporters that everything they can to go after the president not to mention. Do not do not underestimate voter. Voter Fraud Do not underestimate what the left will do. As I have said there are more socialists out there that I think we give credit for there are more people on the radical far left that we give credit for and if they a nominated. You left this. We're GONNA have to fight like hell to make sure that they do not win. One other store. I just wanted to talk about something that we have been focusing on a little bit here and there on the Charlie Kirk show is Hong Kong Something truly historic is happening in Hong Kong. After this weekend we have quantifiable proof that these freedom fighters are making a difference. Hong Kong delivered sweeping electoral wins wins for democracy and freedom. Take that Chinese Communist Party. America's greatest enemy Hong Kong's protests started June against plans to allow extradition to mainland England. China critics fear that this could undermine judicial independence and endanger dissonance until nineteen ninety-seven Hong Kong was ruled by Britain as a colony but then returned to China. We've done a whole show on Hong Kong on the trolley Kirk. Show go back through your archives. Make sure you press download an episode. Go back wait a great episode Hong Kong. We went into the whole history of it. What do that right now? The bill was withdrawn September but demonstrations have continued and now demand full democracy. An inquiry into police actions a clashes between police. Jason activists have become increasingly violent with police. Firing live bullets and protesters attacking officers and throwing petrol bombs. So where do we stand today. A recent district elections in Hong Hongkong so the freedom fighting pro-democratic protesters securing a decisive landslide. Victory according to local media count seventeen. Eighteen councils are now controlled by pro democracy. Macher Assi Counselors. That's they call them. Pro Democracy candidates have secured a clear majority with more than three hundred at a four hundred fifty two seats compared to forty one seats for the pro establishment camp according to local media estimates four years ago at the previous polls pro democracy candidates only secured around one hundred seats. This is a disaster for Beijing. But here's an interesting. These Hong Kong protesters are flooding the streets waiting American flags and burning communist flags. Meanwhile when I go visit campuses for turning point. USA left-wing Democrat Protectors esters are in the street waiting communist flex and burning American wants Hong Kong. Protesters represent a desire for freedom and democracy. We have to stand with the people of Hong Kong. We have apt to stand with the people that want freedom that want liberty that wants the protection of the individual and they want to preserve constitutional values. All Congress are being attack mistreat by police yet. Left wing TEPA rioters attacking police here in America. I could go on and on and on Hong Kongers Yearning for the protection of the Second Amendment. left-wing left wing Democrat. Riders are trying to balance the second amendment bottom line. I would trade these Hong Kong freedom fighters for the entitled violent and teeth of thugs that we see in in our streets any day of the week and enclosing Elizabeth Warren's national poll numbers take a nosedive. It's kind of funny when people learned that you're actually Marxists. They might not want to support you this from Bloomberg Number News not from Mike Bloomberg the presidential candidate quote the former vice president has retaken the top spot in the Quinnipiac University national poll. A twenty four percent support among Democrats and Democratic Radic leaning independence up from twenty one percent in October twenty four twenty a pack poll when Lawrence Warren led with twenty eight percent in the November survey warned was down fourteen points. The fourteen percent typically tied with Bernie Sanders. MP Boot Edge. Wow that is a massive drop. This is what happens when you lie about seven different things in your background and refused to say how you will pay for stuff. Warren reminds reminds me of that team that the total underdog memo's people counted her out after the DNA debacle but that somehow show they get ahead and they show up at halftime and then they lose because because they play prevent defense the entire rest of the game she has been her own. Worst enemy polling also shows her losing president. Donald trump in key battleground states such as Florida. Democrats this election cycle are repeatedly telling pollsters and pundits that they don't so much to fall in love with the candidate like they did in two thousand eight with Brock Obama they just want one. That isn't Donald Trump. They will take elective almost above anything else. If you show weakness and that you're in trouble look we know the left and there were able to predict them. This Democrat primary is GonNa get really really bloody metaphorically really soon I mean this is going to be a civil war. The likes of which we've never seen. There's no clear front runner their front runner. Joe Biden is not even the top two or three in Iowa and New Hampshire people to judge which is the most unimpressive political. Your that I have seen in quite some time. The guy's a small town mayor and couldn't even get elected as the head out of the Democrat National Committee. People say isn't he's so charismatic. I don't see it but I'm not a Democrat and I'm not a left winger and I actually want America to succeed so if you're those things maybe you find inspiration and Pete boot at judge talk about how horrible the country America is but as things progress watch out for Mike Bloomberg who can throw a real boomerang into this race thirty million dollars in some of the bigger states that are very expensive media markets and the fact that he's dismissing the first four states. I actually think we'll see if it we'll see if it ends up working he's GonNa try to run against the media. I want the Democrats adds to start to get aggressive with the Democrats start to go after each other. They just play Nice. It was one big bear hug this last Democrat debate the MSNBC will please tell US Senator Elizabeth Warren. How great of a person do you think you are? D- President with the questions were absolutely ridiculous. One final final thing more make America great again news. We're great again the Dow SNP MP and Nasdaq all closed at all time highs on Tuesday highest ever all-time highs. Let's play a clip from the Great Charles Pain that summarizes that another triple play for stocks. The Dow Nasdaq and S. and P.. Five hundred closing at all time highs today for the Dow. It's the one hundred record close since president trump took office in January twenty. Only seventeen. And you can bet. President trump will be playing it up during the twenty twenty campaign. all-time high everybody make America. Great again has been achieved. Did you guys have 401k's if you guys are invested in the stock market at all you are seeing your stocks to record highs and guess what they could go even higher if president trump Secures a trade deal with the Chinese which should be very very simple so please make sure you are subscribed of the Charlie. 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Sylvester McNutt III
"Hi Everyone Sophia. Bush here welcomed a work in progress where I talked to people who inspire me about how they got to where they are, and where they think they're still going. I'm so excited to introduce you all to my friend. Sylvester mcnutt third today. Because, it's an inspirational conversation that will definitely leave feeling motivated and I. Don't know about all of you, but I have a hunch that that's something we could all use right. So. Let's author of care package free, your energy, and many other books he has an incredible podcast and spends his time helping people understand how healing can be the key to success. Recorded this episode back in the beginning of April, but everything he says is just as relevant now. He opens up about his past the impact of football on his life, and how a few teachers gave him opportunities that completely changed his trajectory. We also talk about the therapeutic benefits of writing and what it really takes to heal yourself enjoy. That's there my friend. How are you? I, I. So I'm load cited that you're here. I'm so glad we're finally going to have our conversation for the podcast. It's so nice to see your face albeit at a technological distance, but we are in different states, so I guess we would have had to do it this way. No matter what. I I really I I'm so excited for the audience to get to know you I think that there are plenty of people in my audience. Who who follow you. I I love to post your work and your writing and and that's really how you and I met I. I don't even know how it happened, but I. we found each other on the Internet. and I I've always been so. Taken aback by the things that I've read that you share you know you are. You are creator whose words often give me pause in a really beautiful way where I read something and I think Oh let me sit with that. or Or oh, that really? That causes such a feeling in me I want to sit with that and. I guess I just WanNa. Say thank you for sharing. Yourself with the world the way do. And I wasn't expecting to hear that. Thank you thank you very much appreciate it. I think the sharing. Maze. It's been a journey for sure but. I just feel like some not have to do. I just have so much. That happens inside of my head so many thoughts in so many observations in. I'm in a good habit of sharing and I think that it helps me. It helps me understand what's going on with with him. Own Self. But then through the of doing it is you know helped thousands of other people and. One thing. I never WANNA. Do is like I. Never WanNa tell people like this is how you need to take. This is how you need to be. You know because like I just believe in free will and free expression, but. I think we all need help at different points of our lives to figure out how we're processing. Things are how we're thinking about things I know or or maybe it's like hey, if I. IF I shift my perspective, maybe two percent of this situation I may be able to get a thousand more benefits out of it. You know and I think that's one of the things. I like drives. Me Is just to try to try to put out multiple perspectives just so people can can people arrive at their own conclusion, you know. That's it. That's it for me. That's like. So everyday thing for me, yeah! So I'm always curious, 'CAUSE I. I sit across from Viet through screener. You know on the couch and the office. Sit across from a lot of people whose perspectives to your point I really admire. And I'm always curious how they got this way. Because I've I've known you. For the last couple of years, but Were you? Were you like this when you were a little kid? You know I wonder who was silvester at like eight ten. I know you grew up in Chicago. Which makes me feel very nostalgic I I. I wonder where you introspective and curious and an. Into, writing then or or how how did? How did the journey begins? Back all right eight ten, so first of all our brains are like because this is the same question that I kind of gear people towards a my podcast because I'm so curious. I WanNa know like the Genesis. I WANNA. Know the starting point like you know. What were some the factors? So this is. This is just a great question to me. so eight ten I would have been in NORTHWEST SUBURBS OF CHICAGO! So I was living in Mount Prospect in Arlington Heights okay. and. That's right around the age where you start having a lot of a lot of questions, you know that's when you start asking questions like a Santa, Claus. Do I. Have to go to Church. Why do I have a bad time? You know you start you. Start asking those questions to your parents. you start liking girls in school, but you don't even know what that means. You know you have all this stuff going on. And what was going on news. My parents. were. Okay so my mom worked, she was an administrative assistant. She is a very like punctual. She pronounces everywhere. She does not. She didn't allow any of us to speak slaying. We had to be proper English. We couldn't say things like come on man, or you know what I mean like none of that it had. All the time one hundred percents precise words precise language. In that was rooted in her being an avid reader. I mean she would read every single day. Our I remember seeing her every single day. My Dad. He was United States military. So He's getting up at five am to get his workout in. He's punctual. He's we can't be if if the show starts at nine. We can't get. There are nine of one. We can't be late. It's it was a very I lived in a very like disciplined household. And it was also very disciplined from the intellectual side where my mom hit the readings, but my dad was really into cinema and film, so my dad when we will sit down, he will walk. We will watch films. We Watch Bruce Lee films, and he would and I know you could appreciate this. You know working working in TV and film like he would make me watch the scenes and he every time the the camera will cut. He knew all the cuts so he would tell me. Me What type of cut is that? You know when the audio like you do like a J.. Hook like what what type of audio that he would teach me everything about film. He would teach me about the the acting side of it in like how they were taught to hold emotions or to express emotions that they weren't even feeling. They had to portray it in my mom was on the other side, talking about the writing like the actual writing side in like she read Patricia Patterson. John Grisham she rea- to redesign novels. At eight to ten, I would pick these up and try to read them, but I couldn't. I couldn't I couldn't comprehend what was going on, but I would try and you will open our. Take our go to a page and I'll just give my mom the book and I'll say hey. Readers to me, you know she would just re like thirty pages to me out the book and I would just sit there, but I will close my eyes while she would read, and then I will visualize what she was reading. And, what ended up happening in I? Didn't realize this then, but just talking about it now made me realize it. What happened is I will see the words that she was saying. And then even when my dad was having me watch movies with him, I will be able to just see the words. I'll be able to predict how we're going to go. And it was like through those practices with them that I wanted to develop. the ability to to write. I started to develop like the love for so then what happened with me was as I got just a little bit older. I'm GonNa tell you a story here so. I was very introverted. A never I never really was extrovert as very very introverted before high school that change a little bit in high school, but before high school I was very interested, introverted, very very quiet very to myself. Very observant always had a lot of friends always play with other kids are the boys in a neighborhood? We always play sports football basketball soccer. We used to raise. We used to ride bikes. I used to play I used to have a bunch of friends, but I was always quiet. I was always quite. and. So in seventh grade. You, ride the bus home from school, but I'm living in the suburbs and it's very. Is is not a good environment. Bunch of kids on the buzz is you know they're just wild. and. I had a younger brother and sister so I'm a person that at a young age I realized I needed alone time. Needed alone time in order for me to be my Best Self Ryan. In so I have a younger brother and sister at the House I have mom and dad, so it's like if I'm home, everybody else's home, so there's no alone time there. If I'm at school with all, my classmates are smart enough to figure out. If I just walked home, I could be alone for about thirty minutes. So I just started walking to and from school and. I'm walking home by myself. And there's this girl hunting was Leeann and she walked up to me one day I walk right outside the school. She's like hey. I noticed that you walk home the same way I walk everyday, so we're GONNA walk together, and I was like yeah. No, no, no, we're not actually were not because she was a great older than me. I think I was seventh grade. She was eighth grade. I think I think that was a great in. Yeah, that was it and I was like no. We're not actually you're going to do what you've been doing and I'm going to continue on my way. I've never met her right. So, she goes. No, no, no, we're GONNA. Walk home together because we walked right by each other every single day seeing for weeks. So I was like okay. All right finally I was like I I do it. So I walk her home a couple of times, so basically it would be like a quarter mile to her house and they're Maas. My house was like a mile. So I walk home, then continue on. So finally one day. She's like. she's like. Hey, you need to walk me up to my door today. And a my would do that. I've never walked you up to your door. That doesn't was okay the point in doing that. She's like no come on. In a walk me to my door, and she's like giving me all these cues and these signals and I'm like oblivious. I have no idea what she's doing. And I. Think I was seventh grade. I was told I was twelve in seventh grade. Yeah, 'cause I started high school when I was still thirteen so I was I would have been right I think yes. I was twelve years old. In standing at her door, she's like okay I'm going in now. And I'm just like okay. Right, see you later, and she just grabs me and she just like puts me like a bear hug and she starts making out with me, so this is the first time ever kissed a girl. So I didn't know what I was doing I, feel her tongue in mind so I was just like Okay I. Guess I'm supposed to do that so i. just put my tongue. I'm just clueless. So. She goes in the house in. She lives like little like redbrick apartment. It was like it was a flat in. She goes in the House and I start walking home and I'm just thinking. I'm like wow! That was amazing like just kissed a girl for the first time. So I walk the rest of that seven point five miles, I walked with the biggest smile on my face. And I get home. And my mom is there and. My mom is a very. She's a very entertaining person to say the least. In she owes. What do you smiling about boy? She would always call me boy she knows. What are you smiling about boy? I'm like you know nothing novick deal. You know nothing. I feel I'm ready to to tell you. She's like no, no, no, what's what's going on? You never walk in like this. Why are you smiling going on? And I'm like you know. Well You know there's this girl. Yan I've been walking home with her. You know she kissed me. Behind the seven eleven with made out, she kissed me for some kiss a girl. My mom immediately is pissed. She's angry. Yes, she's angry. Her her exact words it his day. I'll never forget she goes. I didn't give you any permission to kiss girls. She goes. You need to leave the girls alone and you need to focus on your schoolwork. and. It was like that was one of the most defining moments of my life. Because here I am. Twelve years old, having my first sexual experience, and it's met with Shane. Is met with. Gil is met with rejection is met with. You're doing something wrong. And that was like it was such a painful thing for me to have something so powerful. Happen a girl kissing you especially. She's a year older than you. You know amongst guys. We are a young boy. That's like a big deal like an eighth grader to kiss you when you're in seventh grade. Like S A big deal, so I'm thinking. It was like this beautiful thing that happen and I share with my mom and she just like broke me down. And when she broke me down. I had all these like feelings that came about you know and I didn't understand it. I didn't know what shame was killed. The rejection the things that I have the awareness of now. I didn't know so. I just had all these feelings going on inside of me so now I. Don't WanNa Talk to Leeann because I feel like I, can't so I'm taking a different route home? You know so. It's just like all these emotions ahead, and I couldn't understand it, so I didn't have any extra money. My family, you know middle class family. We weren't poor with rich. They had enough for us to get by so I. DIDN'T WANNA ask for any money. But I knew I need to express what was going on and my family. My family, my immediate family did well. Most families do when we get with our extended family, we kinda. We don't tell the full truth. The full spectrum of was going Oh how's everything? Oh, yeah, everything's great. Yeah, the kids are good. You know that's that's what my mom and dad would do, but that wasn't the truth. That wasn't the truth of what was going on. On in this time period where they also started to Kinda, they started to become alcoholics. My Mom, her are poison would be MGD Miller genuine draft. She would drink a six pack every night on Dad. His was Jack Daniels. He which he would drink it on the rocks. I don't know how people do that, but he would. He would drink it on the rocks. So here I am. And I'm watching. What was like perfect like nuclear family? Where there was a lot of love, there were playing. We used to watch movies we. We used to do all types of stuff together, but it's like deteriorating right, and then there's all these elements that are coming in. You know with the shame and the guilt abuse physical abuse emotional abuse and it wasn't just on me. It was everyone was the whole environment you know was dad to mom, dad them to me and just like watching this environment like deteriorate. So my saving grace in what what really helped me here was that same seven eleven that I will walk by I went in there in a stolen notebook. You know have any money like I said so I just went in there. I found a little life. College ruled notebook. Something like this Put My book bag walked out. And I stole a notebook and. I know stealing is wrong, but also keeping those emotions only would have been even worse than me so I needed I needed some outlet. So what ended up happening was when I. got home at are still the notebook. Just open it up. And I just started writing ended up writing like twenty twenty five pages about you know my mom, my dad, what I was seeing what I was feeling what I was thinking and then I started writing about. Ways that they could, they could solve the way they were talking to each other. You know because I was listening to light their tone of voice, and how they were just talking, and like I was just trying to come up with certain ways like man. If my mom would just said, this or dad would just said this and so really. You know when people see me now and they see like an author of eight books. You know I've traveled in talk to people about these things really started from that twelve year old kid who was completely confused about kissing a girl like that's literally wear started from. So that's how I got started as a writer. Guys. I just discovered my new favorite subscription. It's called caused box and I need to tell you about it. 'cause box is a quarterly meaning. Four Times a year subscription box curated by women for women that is filled with all sorts of amazing products and brands, ethical sustainable and have a positive mission to give back and make the world better great right. 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And and you know that image of you listening to your mom read, and as a little boy, essentially becoming reader through her. I can't imagine. What it felt like to begin to lose that you become a big reader as you got older to kind of. Hold onto your love of books. In that way were or did that not happen until later? I was a big reader as a kid, I think. Now if I compare the amount that I read now, I think I read more than the average person. But I don't read as much as I could. Because I spend more of my time writing right, but if I wasn't writing as a profession, I will be a huge reader. Our I will read every day for an hour to every single day. As a kid, I was a huge huge. Read our read every single day I mean even a high school. You know you have this stuff that they want you to read but I would have my own books to the library. You get two weeks with a book, so I'll take a book. Read it in two weeks. Bring back, check out another one. You know even in high school, so I've always been a big reader I think yeah, that is because because of my mom. I mean even to this day. She still has her stack of books. She goes through. You know she's a hoarder. So you know I would not be I wouldn't be an author. If it wasn't for my mom's reading in my dad, he was a writer to use always write scripts, and that's the reason why he would have me. Sit Down and watch the movies with them because he wanted to eventually get a script on. I think my my love for writing just literally came from their hobbies. Very cool. It's interesting. Because when you talk about the way, your dad was breaking down movies with you I i. think about what an incredible education in storytelling that is for a kid. You know the way the scenes are cut in the way that actors are performing in the way that. Things look and feel and sound that's. That's kind of incredible. That's the stuff that makes me. Wish I'd gone to film school. You know! where! Where did sports come in for you? Because I know there's a there's a whole world of athleticism in your story. So then. When does all that begin so sports for me has always been a safe haven way to just kind of escape. What what I was what I was dealing with like I, said it started just in the neighborhood, just running races. You know you get a bunch of. Of Young boys together. They always want to figure out who's the strongest. WHO's the fastest? Who's the smartest as that's just? What young boys were doing and I know that I've always had like a group Guy Friends at every age. You know we moved a lot, but always wanted to make new guy friends in is just that that masculine the masculine competitiveness that I feel like it's such a big part of. Being socialized just as a boy to a man, so we would just you know. We didn't have the cellphones smartphones We'd be outside racing each other like all right. So we've raised. We see who can throw the football the furthest we throw baseball and it was just I mean that's just what we did you know and then like wwf came about the wrestling, so then we started wrestling like which that was not smart, but we started wrestling in the house, and doing all these wrestling moves in. It was just I mean it was just such a good way to just bond. You know just sport, so we ended up happening was. Always will watch in growing up in Chicago everyone's diehard Chicago bear fan diehard Chicago cubs. Chicago Blackhawks Cargo Bulls like we're diehard, is we? Are you know You know a lot of people these days you know you will argue politics in Chicago. We talk about sports. We argue sports. You know that's what we do, we should we talk about sports and. You know just growing up. You know every Sunday the family get together extended family people go to the bars obviously too young for that, but I was still seeing people go into the bars is tailgating pre-game watching the games watching football like I? Watch football every Sunday. So, of course, we had a super Nintendo and I'm playing or maybe it was a regular Nintendo I started playing this game called tecmo superbowl, and it was a football game, and it was just like the best game ever like the graphics are horrible, but it was amazing then. and My love for football came from. You know watching in family. Watch how they will get so excited. Just seeing people out in about rocking the bears, Jerry. WASHINGTON IT ON TV! I just I. It was just such a glamorous in your just like Oh. Man. I want to be one of those dudes and was was sealed it for me. Is Dad were at a park one time and it was just me and my dad. In we're flying kites and if you've have you ever flown a kite before. A long time though flying a kite is one of the most frustrating things. That you can do because if you don't get like the right I. Don't know `this drag or lift, I don't know the right turn, but if you don't get the right pocket of air under it, it doesn't go anywhere in my dad's like he's like a mad scientist. He would just he would just real it out. Nice and slow at patients in the kite, which is a bigger and bigger and bigger, and it'd be like a hundred feet in the air, and mine is ten feet on the ground, just flopping around and I'm just I would just get defeated, and I would just start crying. And so we're at this park in I'm crying finding My Dad's got his in the areas. He's looking up. And one of the football came flying at me and he just like bounced over to me, so I threw my kite and I picked up the ball, and then I threw it back to to to the guy, and they were like practicing football, and they had all their gear on their helmets on, and you know you're a little kid, and you're looking up to bigger kids so many high school kids. Or maybe even peewee kids, but you. You look at them in there like giants. And I just remember thinking like Oh. I WANNA be a giant, you know. And so I went and told my dad I'm like Hey I wanNA play football. Sign me up and there was that day that when I went to the park in my mom and dad were like no, you're not playing football sports. Dangerous people get hurt. People get concussions and I'll just say hey. I'm not going to get hurt. Just signed me up, you know. So, they wouldn't sign me up so fifth grade sixth grade. They wouldn't sign me so seventh grade. A. Mike Hey I'm bigger stronger personnel. Push still hundred push every day because my dad told me he was like. If you WANNA buy football. You need to be strong so I said okay. What do I need to do? He says you need to do. Push ups, you know. He says I'm I'm in the army. I do about five hundred a day. So can you do five hundred might well I? Don't know if I can do five hundred, so I just started doing them and I got up to one hundred pushups day as a seventh grader. So I went to my hey. I could do one hundred push ups. I WANNA play football, so he. He was drinking to this time. This was this was in the summer, so he goes all right. Let me see. Let me see your pushups so I. Get down! It takes me a little while, but I do one hundred push ups in front of him. They're like little baby pushups seventh-grader. and. He was like okay. I'll think about it so I went from like a no to think about it. So I left the House that day. I'll never forget this in my friend. His name was Adam macelroy Irish guy. And he played for the Arlington Cowboys. 'cause. We lived in Arlington Heights. Arlington cowboys was the Peewee League, so I'm over his house. His mom, his mom, his, his dad was a cop. His mom was there in. We're just talking about football. They're like Hey, are you gonNA play with us this year and I was like Yeah Yeah Yeah. My Dad said I could play this year which my dad didn't say I li-. Like my dad said I could play this year, so they had some type of registration later that night so I'm like thinking I can pay if I just stay with. Adam I'll be able to register for football so I. Literally stated his house to Whole Day. Also go back home, but I just stated this House to whole day we ended up going to the registration, and then we got registered. And you need a you need permission. So I told his mom I was like yeah. My Dad said I could play, so you could just sign for him. He's at work which he wasn't. is so his mom signed for me? I got registered for football. That way home told my parents I. Yes, I got registered for football, and then that was like. How'd you register you know so? He started doing the mid to work. I was like well. I'll be honest with you. I two six to forge your signature. He was pissed. He was he was pissed. Dow's pissed. But he kind sat there for a second, and he thought about it. He was decide okay. He's like. If you're willing to do all of that to play football, we're going. Allow you to play football. So, if you're if you're willing to do all of that, you can play. It was one of the best things I play. Seventh Grade Eighth Grade Plain high school than I walked onto my college football team at Northern Illinois University, then I ended up plan. Three years of arena football so got paid play football for three years, so it was one of I. Mean it was one of the best things that happened to my life for? Why would you say that? Is it? Is it the discipline of sports the physical activity? What what did you love so much about it? So in highschool also ran track, but I hated it occur, but football I loved football heart it is. You are constantly having your mind challenged every single day. You know people people see it on TV and they think is just pushing running. It's a game of science. It's XS and OS. It's A it's a game design. You know so. You have to have a certain level of awareness to be decent to be good. It's a game of knowing how to preserve your energy. It's a game of knowing. Angles like we have this drill copper suit drew pursuit Gerald on. Break it down for some who may not understand football essentially if I'm a defender and I'm on like the far left side in the play goes to my right. The pursuit Joe teaches you the exact angle. You take to be able to make a tackle. You know when you're looking at football and you see people get tackled so quick. It's not because. They're bigger faster stronger. It's because they understand the angle of where to be. And There's just so many bike analogies in like allegories that you can learn from football that just carry over into your real life, and it just makes you to me. It just makes you mentally strong. You know the things that I went through info. Some of those things I went through in football. I just feel like the average person will never went through in their life. Just like. If you talk to a person who's WHO's been in the army, you know been in the Marines, people who have have run marathons when you get to a level of physical exertion were now you're exertion becomes reliant solely upon what your mind tells you. Is I just feel like you gain so much control of yourself of your life in so much. Power on self understanding. And I feel like football tracked into. Give me that football game that for sure. That so interesting. And, and as we're talking about going through high school. What were you loving academically while while you are falling in love with sports? was there a subject that was your favorite or teacher? Who really stands out that you think about from High School Gym Class. Gym Classes. My favorites so my school was a really good school. I went to Palatine high school in every year. That was there they won the blue. Ribbon Excellence Award which essentially goes to one of the top one hundred high schools in the United States of America. What made us so great really wasn't our athletics. It was the academic program. It was a teacher. Is there it was the counselor's it was you know we had a choice? Your Freshman and Sophomore Year you do your regular. You know regular assignments, but then your junior senior. You actually have a choice of if you WanNa, go language, or if you WanNa go art in so what I chose was arts so I got to do class I have drama I got to do drawing a painting. I got to do poetry. I have to do a whole bunch of different classes in the arts. You know in so if you would win language you. Would you people who leave my high school? They leave knowing French obviously English than they leave with. Spanish is well because you French and Spanish for your junior and senior year, so you leave there with two languages so the summer of Sophomore Year. They asked me what you WanNa do, do you WANNA do? You know the language. Do you want to do? Arts like are while I'm artistic person the arts, so you get these acting classes, you speech classes drawing like my favorite teacher. Her name is misleading and she used to let me draw. I had her first period, and it was so cool because you can just come in. There is the only classical headphones so he could wear your headphones. Listen to music, and you just draw for an hour. Just draw. You have a professional art teacher there. She's teaching you and. As long as you tried your best, you pass, she's not. She's not gonNA. Knock your art because it doesn't fit into her. Perspective of what art is supposed to be? She was so open to everyone art. She'll give us the guidelines. You say. Hey, for example I remember. We had to do a perspective photo so perspective photo we see all the time is when you see like a train track or you see like a freeway street, you see maybe a buildings buildings on the right side in the kind of all leads so what's called a vanishing point? And I mean to this day. I've never forgotten that because she was such a good teacher. So literally you start those photos by drawing your vantage point the new jaw, your horizon, and then you build your city in built the sky and. Is. It was an amazing experience to be taking art class. You know so I remember her class, and then I had another teacher. WHO. I think his name was Mr Mill Milford Mr, Milford, in! I mean this was amazing because he was see the potential that people had, and he will never hold you back like if you, didn't he. was. You know how teachers will call you if you don't WanNa, raise your hand. Yeah, he was, he was never one of those teachers. He will only call you if you wanted to be called on in. If you didn't want to be called on, he will talk to you on the side and he would just say hey, what's going on? You know I didn't want to didn't want to embarrass you. Are you comfortable with talking by the end of everyone was participate in his class. He got the quietest people to participate because he was such a just like a such a a warm thing like your grandfather that has cookies for. He's got good stories like you're just such a warm person in. I remember when this song. Fit By fifty cent came out. It was called La wasted okay. I was in high school when fifty cent came out in like everyone's planning song. In walk in his class and he goes. Hey, have you heard the new fifty cent song and I was like fifty. WHO Like I didn't I had never heard of so like. My teacher introduced me to fifty cents. He's like he's like. Hey should put it on because I was in the class. I, he's like you should put it on. It's a new song, so he like put. It always is pretty good. And I'm just like what house my teacher who like seventy introducing me like rap music like this. Is You know so? It was so cool so. I think my teachers were in on hold on lasting about high school. I, had an administrator Mrs Schmitt. In a Messina's tour when it comes out 'cause she saved my life, she literally saved my life. My Freshman and sophomore year I was actually going to get expelled from school because I had behavioral issues. So the stuff I mentioned to you about what was going on in the home. It only got worse so high school. You know you're fourteen fifteen. Your Freshman Sophomore Year in and got worse. The abusing I ended up running away from home. It was really bad. It was really bad. I hated being at home. Ours are good I'm gonNA. Go place now. In I would just go to school in our just act out our act out our lash out, had behavior issues, I was fighting are fighting class I'll find. Any anywhere I had a chance to. You know that's how people people who have paying on them. That's how they behave. They WanNa get the pain. OFFER THEM IN, so they act out. You know in for me since since the emotion that I was getting a lot of was anger. Repeating the that I was getting because I wanted to get it off of me. and. I will get in trouble I think about it. I think about it like A. Like, a pressurized container. And when people are suffering. In households that are. Suffering really. It's like you add more and more pressure that container, and and when you think about like too much pressure, being in pipes like with. They burst. They rupture. They spring leaks the leak in the wall and there's mold growing in the wall like. We we can only contain so much, and so it doesn't surprise me, and it makes me feel so much for the little kid version of you. Like. All that pressure had to come out somewhere. And that's why you know for me. I had to healthy coping the coping mechanisms, which was football, the sports in writing you know if I didn't have those two things I have no idea how must be may have turned out, but it ahead to things were could express myself, so the problem in Massachusetts is that my freshman and sophomore year I actually was not plentiful ball had to play my junior senior year. The reason I was not able to play is because one of the time my parents divorced, which was the summer of freshman year. I was displaced so when school started at the last week of August first week of September I, didn't start school until November. Right because I was living with my grandmother. While my parents figure things out on the south side of Chicago, so I was living on the south side, Chicago and I wasn't going to school I went to school there, but you know you've been Chicago You had worked there CPS cargo. Public school system is not a good public school system, and for a person like mean who is you know I was. Inclined I did very good at school when I try and for person like me, who is like very academically inclined you put me in one of the worst one of the worst school systems in the country plus. Behavioral issues it was a it would have been a combination for a very bad situation, so rattle especially with me growing up in the suburbs. I told my grandmother I said I'm not going. I'm not going on. The stuff that they're teaching. I can learn right here. All I need to do is go to the library and I'll teach myself so my first four months of my high school I taught myself school. and. Then finally, my mother and father decided that it was best for me to move back to the suburbs with my dad to finish my education there. I have my friends there had been out there, so just made more sense. This is one of the top one hundred schools in the country. It makes sense to put your your kid there. So I moved back my freshman year in which is me and dad at this point so freshman year my brother and sister are now gone. Who I grew up with their with mom. I'm with Dan so that's part of the reason why soul? I was acting. The Way I was acting is also none of this was explained to me like there was never a compassionate conversation as a family like. Hey, we're GONNA SPLIT UP. It was this. Abrupt change abrupt change even in seventh grade. When we moved the way we moved was my mom picked me up from school, and we moved I had no idea. We're moving like. I never return home. I never got the save by so it was like traumatic experience over and over and over, and that's why I was acting out. So my sophomore year, the reason I couldn't play football sophomore years because I was ineligible because I missed half the year. So as acting now act now I go to Mrs Schmitt MA administrator I go to her office by this time I hit forty eight total suspension days between freshman. Sophomore year. And I had a meeting it was missing. December intended of the school. The principal of the school me and my mother in this I got a fight during finals in my sophomore year. Escape call me inward in autumn so. Mrs Smith the Superintendent Principal in. They said they said to me Silvester. We want to expel you from our school. You're. You're smart in your bright. You have potential, but your behavior is just unacceptable. It's completely unacceptable. You know you're fighting every twenty one days. You're fighting some more. You know the guy says. Why are you fighting? And, I think that's you know that's pretty important. Question to ask someone why. I think any any time, and I use a semi work today anytime that. We go through these spaces where our behavior is not optimal, or our emotions are just off the wall. I think the question of why the most important question, because it helps you interest, but helps you go within it helps you reassess, and he says why. And I said well. I'll tell you why in everything are just laid out? Told I told him that I hate not seeing my brother and sister says I I hate seeing. My parents argued because I used to love each other. Now they hate each other. You know I said I hate being in the school where I'm called the inward all the time by wikileaks I don't like it i. don't like being in the school in some of the black kids. Kids don't accept me because they say that I'll talk proper, so I'm not black. Enough I see I don't get it I. Don't get any of this, you know said just none of it makes sense to me I said. I don't like being in the school and you guys are teaching me things that don't make any sense at all like the school is i. feel like beneath me. You know and then I had I had. An issue with black history black history month. I have an issue with that. Wise, black history not American history. Why is black history only tall in February? Why are they not teaching US full black history? Why are they only talking to us about Martin? Luther King. There's other elements to black history in if black history so important, wiser, not a black present meaning, why are we not learning about what black people are doing in the present moment you know? And I asked him this as a as a high school student I'm asking these questions and I said I'm having issues with the curriculum. I'm having issues with my home I'm having issues with peers in. That's why I'm acting this way. I'm lashing out because of my world. and. They started crying. Everyone's just like crying. You know they're just like so. You know what do we do? How do we resolve this? And I was like well. I can tell you how to resolve it. Because I had a solution I said I've been wanting to play football. The whole time I've been here in the school, but you guys haven't allowed me to. You told me to play on the sophomore team, but I will be ineligible for games and I didn't think that was fair chose not to. I WANNA play football and I said I've been training my whole life to play. Football team has a losing record. We haven't won any games since I've been in highschool literally overnight every year. And as you said, it was like you know I, know, this is cocky to say but I can help us win some games. Put me on a football team. Put me in a position to make a difference and I'll make a difference. And They're like well. If you're going to be in football, you have to get good grades right now. You have CD's enough, so I said I have seized these because I don't care, I said. I'm one of the smartest people in the school. Put me on football team and I'll get as. So they kind of just chuckled, they're just like. Okay. So they already to expel me, but Mr Schmitt Mar administrator. She was like no. We're not spelling. We're keeping them. I see OSCE his I. See a light and we need to keep them. So they kept me. So I came back week later finished my finals. The next week I started training for football so I got up every single morning. This is all self imposed. I got up every single morning at five o'clock hour on three to five miles every every day. I read three or five miles every day. I do my hundred push ups I. Do pull ups. Do everything I can because I, wasn't lifting weights yet. So football, so you know in high school you know ends around. May or June football starts at the end of June. So at the end of June you get summer camp starts so go in there I, walked to the coach Varsity coach very first day. His name was bill page. And I say coastal page I gotTA. Tell you something. In goals was up and I go I know this is my first day on the program and you know I. See all these people like the wall of fame, and all these athletes who have came here. I'm just letting you know that I'm about to make a difference. and. He's like you're gonNA. Make a difference. I'M GONNA. Make a difference in this program in the school in thousands of people's lives, you'll see. And he goes well. That's Kinda cocky. Don't you think for someone who hasn't done anything? Now it's like now. I'm not talking about what I haven't done. I'm talking about the future for one about to do. You'll see. He just looked at me. Like who the hell is this? Do you know? So from there because I had football I just committed like I. Just I needed any any person who can hear this. Who's like going through some type of pain? You're going through some type of suffrage. What you're doing in life. You're clueless like you need direction like you gotta find something you can commit to. Something that you can commit to because when you commit. That's how you he'll. You know you have to find something that is worth your time. Maybe you can't do it every day, but often you know, and it doesn't have to pay you. It doesn't have to give you money, but just something you can commit to you know for me. I had journalists in football in from there with football. I got to get in the weight room and I got the train. Train I got to get around other people who had the same goal of Hillen themselves. You know maybe get into college or whatever, but we stay committed you know and it was the football. I swear to. Football saved my life. In the only reason I was able to play football in high schools because Schmidt because she believed me so I'm a fast four, because this is one of the best stories that have been able to tell this a long time. So my junior year, I play a little bit. We'll do okay. We win some games my senior year. I play a lot. We went a lot more games in. A big deal like I made a big impact on my school i. Won this award called? MSL On unsung. Hero, which was Award de goes to the UNSUNG person like you know I got a scholarship. That Smith created for me. It was called. The most improved student in the state so they they still have that in Illinois so every year. You can win this scholarship that she created for me. Wow, you, know ma junior and senior year straight as my junior senior year, perfect attendance, perfect attendance straight as And you know it's like a success story that got turned around because I had an opportunity that Miss Schmidt looked out for you know miss. Smith was like no I see his light I in him. and. To bring it full circle. You know travel around in. Do shows do talks in my last talk in? CHICAGO. which was this past summer mishmash she came. You know. I haven't seen her since high school, and so she came, and I got to give her a hug in just cried, and you know it was one of those things where. If. It wasn't for her I, wouldn't even I wouldn't even be here like she. She was like my saving grace when I was going through the worst in you know. She was just an administrator at a school. So that's why I was so grateful to be at that school, because if I wasn't at that school like I, just don't know if I would have been able to hit administrator like that. WHO CARE I? Guess she really cared. She really really cared. That's so cool. I I definitely have had some teachers like that in my life to people who? Saami. Before I knew how to see myself and I think it can be such an incredible. Gift to a kid. You mentioned that you you went to northern. Illinois University. Were you? What were you studying there? And you and you were playing football there as well right? Yes so I played I, walked onto the college football team. There originally major was English because I wanted to write books and stuff already knew I wanted to do this. I wanted to write. Those classes were hard. Those classes were hard. Because you're they make you study like I. Mean you're studying writers from the eighteen hundreds in your studying the way they used to write, and you're studying like Ladan. Just it was just it was honestly too much to to have the work load of football in college as well as is that so I switch community communications, which was actually smart for me. I. Feel like I got more out of that after that was better for me because I got to learn a lot about. Communication communication theory communication model how people actually communicate listening. You know I've got to learn about active. Listening to learn about a actually had a class about gender studies, so I got to learn how different genders learn how different genders listen in talk. It was just like communication was the best for me of state in English I don't even I don't even know if I would be the writer. I am now. Now I would have stayed with the English. I'm glad. I switched to communications because also got a lot of speech classes, and that helped me with going on the road and speaking public speaking in front of people and talking so I got a lot of speech classes in the speech. Classes were fun because we never really knew what we were doing. When we came in, so we come in in the professor. Was a okay today. You guys work at ESPN in. You're doing play by plays, or we will have sometimes. We have to narrate movies, so we will watch like silent movies from the forties in. We would narrate the characters you know, so. It was like that was one of the best classes in college. Wow! That's so cool and so. then. What's the time line because I know? You've played professional football for a bit after that? But. had. How do you go from that college? Doing coms and Footba into football, but then you become a writer. How how does it? How does it line up? Okay, so I was a writer. The whole time I keep my notebooks. I'm writing the whole I'm writing poems. I'm writing stories I'm right. Love letters from a girlfriend. The girl I dated in College. We dated for like five years three years. If you ask her, but five to me, you know because it took me longer to get over the her. She was done in three so. I'm writing love letters. I'm just I'm writing the whole time. Really just focusing on communication in sport, so we ended up, happening was I actually got dismissed from the university. I was academically dismissed by one. I mean by one little point of gray. It was it was a very hard class. It really it doesn't mean you know. got dismissed from the university that ended up dismissing me from the football program as you do have to. Be a student to fight football, right? So so I ended up just enrolling at the Community College, the the next semester, to finish Matsushita degree, and then go back to college, so I ended up doing that finished associates of art in I go back to the college, but when I go back to the college. By this time I had new coaches are the coaches who brought me in. They were gone so just getting back on the football program it just. It felt like it would have just been too much. so I just made peace with it I. Say you know I'm just going to be done with. football is going to be done with it I'll just be a student I like being a student at this college has some good friends. I had a girlfriend that I liked so it was good. And what ended up? Happening was just through the power of network. I got a phone call and someone was like. Hey, there's this arena team about fifty miles from you in a place called Rockford. Illinois a caught the rocker raptors in I know they're having a try out I. know the coach. You should just go, so I was like okay cool so. went to trial, they picked me up. They signed me. Right in there, so like I'm in college, but I'm playing arena football pro football. You make like three hundred and twenty bucks a gain. The Games are every Saturday. I believe so to me I'm like Oh. This is great I would be in my junior year of. College football, but I'm playing arena football making a little bit of money so. You know worked out so I. Did that my? For three years and What happened on the last year I was in billings Montana. In I got cut from team is my third team got cut from the team. My cousin Tar. She gave me forty dollars to get home on a greyhound, so I wrote the Greyhound from billings Montana Chicago. And Zach a twenty eight hour thirty hour ride. In it was tightening. No seats were small. My neck hurt my back. Hurt my butt hurt. But the whole time on the ride I'm just thinking like art. What are we to do because you know at this point I was done with college. I'm mentally doing with FOOTBA. It's time for me to kind of transition into like the next phase of my life. You know and. I got a job as a cook. Got A job. I was able to get a job as a cook. My Dad was a chef, so I always knew the culinary instinct was inside of me so i. just say man. I just need to get some type of job. So I went on like craigslist and I'm just looking for jobs. Ended up getting a job as a cook. And? I'm still writing, but is not a primary thing right now, just thinking about survival. You know I'm just trying to survive. So the year two thousand nine in we roll to summer two thousand ten. My best friend, he gets a job working at. Verizon. Any goes. Hey I'm working ever-rising. I'm doing. Sales are making these commission checks. I'm killing it. You GotTa get a job here. Saw Mike Okay. I'm a cook. I'm not killing anything like. Take our apply. Wherever's Sir? Whatever I need to do, so he's like okay. Here I'M GONNA. Send you the link for the job. Apply for the job. So. I'm living in Rockford Illinois Okay and he sends me a link for the job which is in Wheaton. Illinois carrying sixty miles away. Wow weeden. Okay, so, but hey I mean when you're making twenty bucks a day. In, your friend is telling you hey. I just made five. Thousand is a commission. You're like Oh. Yeah I, I have to apply. What's the worst happen? So I. Put together like the best resume. This is my writing. Skills really helped me so I put together the best resume. Put together, but at the time I'm only you know a fresh college student who play football? Really, that's really like my only professional experience. So, I just write it. The best that I could because resumes is really about how you frame it so as a writer on McMahon. I can do this so. They called me and. They call a guy named Jeremy Calls me and he goes. He has such a deep like raspy voice is a yeah. I'm looking to speak to us. Silvester mcnutt the third. Yeah, yeah. This is me. This is this is not professional voice on. Yeah, this is me. It's make. Oh yeah, this is, this is Jeremy Wallace. Calling from Verizon Wireless. So WE WANNA. We want to bring you in for an interview. So a mute the phone I just started screaming like. Yeah Yeah, okay I don't even have the job i. just got interview, so I'm on the phone. He's like Oh. Excuse me, are you there? Are you there? I'm here. I'm here yeah. I'll come in for an interview when you need me to come in these. How about tomorrow so I? Go in for the interview? In the manager was Jennifer Celeski in Jeremy Wallace. So I get in there and they are just too mean looking people. Jeremy's like six four big dude They're both Brunette both wearing black both were in their black names I mean they're just mean looking. They don't smile. They're just looking at me and. You know we do the whole interview and we get to the in go, so do you have anything else to say? And I say yeah, you know I'm GonNa be honest with you? You guys might interview some people who are probably more qualified than mean who have better resumes in me who are probably even better look into me. You're not trying to make them laugh. Probably even better looking than me, but. No one is gonNA come in here. is going to work as hard as I'm. GonNa work I'm going to dedicate myself to this job. Now all have going for me is a cook as a McCook and I'm barely making. But I go in there every day in burn myself just survive. If you. Give me an opportunity coming here. I'M GONNA be your number one salesperson. It may not happen right away, but I'm gonNA become that, so you won't waste. Take a chance on me. And they okay all right, so they sent me on my way like three days later hr. You know her name Shero. She's like okay. This is Cheryl Picker with Verizon Wireless, you know we want to extend offer to work variety and I just through the phone across the room. I'm Mike I'm just like screaming. This is like my first real job. The salary was twenty seven thousand dollars plus commission so I'm just like he s you know any felt like. To me, it felt like that moment in high school one I had to tell them look if you take a chance on me I'm GonNa, come through for you, you know. And I told those managers that you know. Hey, if you gotta take a chance on me I'M GONNA. Come through for you. I'm going to be your best salesperson. You just like you just gotTa. Take a chance on me. You know in. They did Jan Jeremy Hire me. I was their best salesperson knows me, and a guy named Michael George atop to sales, people for two years number wanted to for two years and You know if they would've never took a chance on me. I would never became a writer because I needed that job like verizon was a great company and work for because they got me in. They got me a leadership training. They wanted me to be a manager, so they got me a management training. They started teaching me. Yeah, they got me in this program called. Midwest Mobility and what it was was, it was sixty people in the mid West so Illinois Wisconsin. It was the sixty people who had the most potential. To become district managers down the road, which was a coveted position, so they're teach I. mean you're it's it's a you business acumen yet scheduling, you had managing conflicts, so I'm getting all this training and development on the job while being a top performer you know in just I'm so grateful that I was able to get this job. You know because now that's when I started like Saving Emergency Fund I started paying back my student loans I started to get financially. Okay, you know whereas your chef I wasn't making. Making enough to and I wasn't even a chef I was cooked, so I wasn't making enough to really do anything I was just surviving now I'm in a position where I'm actually I'm living on my own. I got a car. I'm saving little bit of money in. It was just I'm just so grateful for that opportunity. You know to be able to work there with them. so because you started to have a cushion and some space. Is that when you were working at that company? Is that when you? Were able to start thinking about your first book. Absolutely, that's the if I didn't work there I wouldn't been able. See One Corona Happen I. saw a lot of people tweeting. Always. You're going to be at home. You should just write a book while as a person who's written eight books. This is the worst time to write a book. You don't want in my opinion. You don't want to write a book when you're in survival mode when you're in desperation, Mo, that's that to me is just not worth the best inspiration. Creativity is gonNA come from and my edges. In my opinion, you know for me. I was able to pay my bills and half. Have a you know money for Sunday Funday type? Stuff things I had never done before. You know I was able to get brunch that. Comfort was what enabled me to start rewriting again. Because when I was in survival mode, I wasn't think you're only thinking about our as a. Coping Stink, you know, but when I. When I got the job, now are wasn't coping. It was just let me express freely, so you're creating from two different places. If you have I mean usually you're. You're an actress, so if you have to go for a job now at this point in your career, because you need a sandwich, or you're doing it because you're jean-louis, inspired by the role, or you're passionate about working with the director they're going to. Your performances are going to be drastically different. What you said just hits me so hard because real expression requires an energy of freedom in your body. Art Is free. Expression Art is flow, and and when you're in a state of anxiety or primal fear, it's really hard to flow. So that makes that makes a Lotta Sense I'm sure it comes as no surprise to all of you. 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What was it like to begin that process? What was it like to begin sharing because I know that you know you started getting? It's like one of my favorite stories that you started getting reactions to your writing and people were saying to you like Oh. What book is this from? Who wrote this and you're like? No I've wrote it. It's my. GOING TO BE IN MY book. What what was going on at the time? How did how did that kind of began? So just to summarize a job twenty ten to two thousand twelve out at Manga, Emma, job and top performer top one percent in company sales I was working in sales and. Sales in such an interesting. Every company have sales. You know it doesn't matter what you do. You have a sales component to your job. If you don't, you won't have a job, you won't you know if you're trying to put a movie out? You need people to sell it. You need people to market. You know In learning sales, I feel like is the number one thing that artists need to do? You need to learn how to sell yourself. You need to learn how to sell your product. Your merchandise whatever it is you need to learn sales and sales is psychology. It is the psychology of what triggers people to buy or not to buy to do or not to do. It is only psychology that is only what sales's so I got to work at the time when the IPHONE was first being launched now the iphone is one of the first at least in my lifetime. Is One of the first items that I could think of that went on quote viral other than that I can think of like the tickle me. elmo dolls back in the nineties. Like that was a viral product I. Phones were like a viral product. So I'm working during the viral product launches of the IPHONES and I'm selling the phones, so most people just do the job. They collect the money and go home, but I'm I'm literally. On my breaks I would take notes about the psychology of the people you know, and I would just be paying attention to everything and I'm taking all these notes at work. and. I started writing a book about how to be the most successful salesperson in what I was GonNa do was I was going to sell it like I was GonNa. Give it to my What's his name? His name is Chris Dietrich. He was the director of sales. I was GONNA. Give it to him to see if he could sell it inside the company. That was my goal. Hey, I'm top one percent of the company. I might as well tell everybody would I'm doing? It was working, so I started writing his book. I'M GONNA give it to my director, so he could sell it within the company. This was my mindset. So I'll just start working on the book. And then I'm at work, and like I would just I will find myself taking my phone because I was writing the book on my phone. So I'm writing in my notes at work I find myself going to the bathroom like ten eleven twelve. Breaks no actually use the bathroom that much I would just go in there and lock the door in pull out my phone and start working on my book. So when I get to this obsessive point where I'm working on my book, that's one. I noticed like a shift in my happiness at work. That's when my because I was super happy and my job. Then I started to not be happy. Because now my job is taken away from me. Work Book. So this shift happened. Where like I just started leaning towards my creativity. So the final Straw for me was my best friend, my brother, you know I was the best man at his wedding. The Godfather his children. He came over my house one day in the stack of notebooks that I told you I've been writing in my whole life saw them. No one ever saw them meet him roommates in college for four years and he never saw them. So, he saw these notebooks and he's like. Hey, what's what are these? Notebooks is for verizon. And you know my hey, hey, get away from their. Get away from. Don't don't don't don't look at that stuff. Put stuff down is a well. What is it and my man is? You know some stuff I've been working on, so it's literally my entire life work since I was twelve. It's every single notebook. I ever had kept them off, so he's looking in. He's just like and he's. stoic he's very STOIC. He's very calm and he's just like. Dude. This isn't credible like you wrote. All of this. Say Yeah, he's. This isn't credible. He's the. What are you doing at Verizon? What do you mean doing? Don't Verizon Up Kelly? He's like no, no, no, no, no! You're selling yourself short. Do you see this stuff? You have to put this out. You have to put this out. His name is William Goes. If you don't put your words out. You're doing yourself in the world a disservice. Wow, what a compliment! Yeah. He told me that he told me that. We're sitting in my apartment in Carol. Stream Illinois. When he told me that he said another thing. He said to me that night was he said? He, said all your life. You've given a hundred and eighty percent to your high school to Northern Illinois football to Verizon Egos. You've never given that much to yourself though. And he says what would happen if you just committed to yourself the way you commit to everybody else's ideas, everybody else's things will happen if you committed yourself. And I'm like I don't know he's like. I think you need to quit your job and you need to commit to yourself. And here I. Am like quit my job. What are you talking about Dude I was just a cook. They're paying thirty thousand salary plus commission. You want me to quit on begnaud myself. He goes, yes, he says this is incredible. You need to put these books out immediately. And when he said that that night he left in, he left, said among computer I'll just cry I just cry. I, just I was overwhelmed with emotion one because he never, he never was that expressive. He's not a very expressive person. So for him to be that passionate about something in like again to see my life before I, saw it, I just was like man like it was just overwhelming. In took me about a year and a half, but here's what I did I use my job because I knew. Jack told Jeremy I went to. I went to Jerry my manager and I said Hey. Man I think I'm gonNA quit to become an author. Any goes okay. That's cool, but I have some advice for you. And I said okay. He says. I don't want to discourage you. Because I know, you're capable of but. Being, an author might not work. So what you should do is you're killing it as sales, your top one percent as a sales rep. You need to become a manager. You need to have manager on your resume, so you can prove that you can duplicate this success as a manager because what happens if you go into your book stuff for a couple years, it doesn't work out where now you're gonNA. Come back. You're going to be in your thirties and you don't WanNa. Start over to entry level you. It'd be better for you to be a manager because you might have kids by then and like Jeremy, he he just had this incredible foresight. Mike Mike Yeah. You know you're right I'm, NOT GONNA I'm not gonNA quit because I was already mentally checked out so a reengaged recommitted to the job. And now my whole focus was I'm going to move to la I'm GONNA. Go out there you know. Be Right out there and I'm going to transfer my job to Los Angeles. So I applied I had I ended up having and it wasn't just la I just wanted somewhere warm because. Apocalyptic Winter of eleven destroy my energy. We had a blizzard out there. Yeah. It was it was awful so once that happened on my I need some more warmth ended up having to. In Fort Myers I believe it was Florida. I think it was like Bakersfield California, which is nowhere near La in. PHOENIX ARIZONA SO I did a couple of the interviews I got offered on all of them. I talked to one in Phoenix. Okay, that's that's a city like cities right now. So I took the one in Phoenix in that's how I got here to Phoenix end up doing the job for another year and a half by that final year and a half. I had my first book out. It was getting sales. and I quit my job and it was I was weighed ready to go all in. That was two thousand thirteen. That's so cool and one of the things I. Love About Your Story I and I think it's got to be so good for people at home. Who are listening is that you never gave up on dream, but you also went about achieving it in ways that were practical, and that had application to your life, and that would take care of you. You know I think that sometimes the Internet makes it look like everyone's an overnight success story, and like you can just go out there and be reckless, and it'll work, and none of it works like that and. I think it's amazing to think about how you can work towards something. That is your life's dream while you're also protecting your actual life are one hundred percent agree with you always see the advice from entrepreneurs online and they're just like. Oh, just quit your job and you know become a multimillionaire budges only using your phone. Look I mean maybe that happened for you. But. US is not going to happen that way so to me quitting your job is because I don't believe you should create a desperation. When you're creating out of desperation, it just like. What are you creating? What value are you actually creating? When you're under the mindset of I, WanNa create a business where I want to create a product. You have to get into to me. You have to get into the mindset of. How is this going to help customer? What value offering them? What benefits are they getting? How are they gonNa get the best experience? So when you think about a customer now? Your customer is your reader. So through your writing and all of your speaking, because as you mentioned, you know you travel around, you speak. Do these incredible engagements all over the place? Would you hear from people? What do you hear from your readers and your listeners the most? Yeah, I I mean first. Thing is just gratitude. People are just very grateful. You know that. I've just follow my own path. You know and then. People get a lot of things you know. I think I empower the creative person you know because I believe in art and I believe in creativity, not just believe that is a path to happiness, even if we're not doing it as a job, but we're just expressing ourselves where there's dancing singing, just playing just being creative painting things of that nature, God believe that that is one of the path to healing and happiness. Happiness so I think that you know you have that person who's just really empowered because through my work, they've been able to just captivate parts of their childhood that they loved even just things like in on a bike you know. I had a podcast about getting on a bicycle in. Someone sent me a message saying hey. I loved it I'm on my bike again. All because of you you know and. Then there's another part of my work where there was deep introspective part where it's focused on. Let me figure out what's going on inside of me. Let Me Self Hill or self navigate or self empower, and then there's another side of my work where like my mom and my dad were try to look at situations and see. Where those pain points are aware where we can learn or shift, while things are happening, and so I think that mostly people just have gratitude. When they talk to me, they're just. They're just grateful because I feel like my work, Kinda hit different different spaces depending on where you are. And I think especially getting comfortable. Talking about those pain points talking about ways that we need to look inward at those things. In order to metabolize them in order to digest those experiences in order to get those things out of our bodies. I'm always so grateful to the men that I know who are willing to have these conversations in the way that you are because men for so long have been cultured there only the only emotional outlet. They have his anger. And in order to shift society, we have to shift how we deal with pain so that we put less anger out into the world. And I think that that's something that's really. Really profound, so thank you for that. I've experienced that you know you asked me. What kind of some type of like the negative feedback got while I've gotten that from different guys before a golf man. What type know what is this? You know, but the thing is is like. If you. Don't say this to them because I just don't respond negatively, but I mean. If you do the whole story like one, I can fight, so it's like you know. I can fight I've I've done all the masking stuff? I've played all the football games like I've lifted weights I've been in weight room screaming with a bunch of guys like I've been in country fields want people stuff people doing? Doing the country, so it's like the stuff that we stereotypically think as masculine I've done all of that, so you're not going to discredit something like my writing or speaking, because you think it's not manly enough I. Don't I don't disagree. I don't agree with you guys like you're. You're wrong, you know. Oh, so you know you think that writing about an emotional thing or writing about emotions. Emotions is weak or you think that's a feminine thing I. Don't think so. You look at any any poet you know. Throughout the history of time, poets poets have all been men for the most part, and it's all been men talking about this love. He has for his woman or woman. He wants to get where they call them that. You know soft in the back then I don't think. Think so I. Don't think so at all, so it's like I. Think because of my background of being athlete in doing all those things that I. Just I don't allow the negativity to touch me whatsoever. I'll see it if it comes and it doesn't come much anymore. But when I first started, it came all. You need to be doing something tougher. This would work now. Everybody works out. Work out on the Internet. That's what everybody's doing i. have something different to offer and I would argue even tougher. It's much harder to be with your feelings and learn to communicate them than it is to distract yourself by going on a run or lifting heavy thing. You know and and I think that the the truth of the matter is that we can all overthink things when we get into our feelings. When we're trying to navigate a situation, we can all get stuck on the inner hamster wheel are. Are there ways that you? Are there tools developed to stop doing that. Within and where did those yeah? Where those kinds of things stem from d think. Y- I mean as a as an artist I think you probably can relate to this at different points in your story to is like I feel like overthinking something that artists do at some point or another. I think there is a path to getting through that so I've actually developed. Course called how to stop overthinking in. It's something that I talk about in my book for your energy, and with the for your energy thing. It. Really what you were just talking about just allowing yourself to be free, you know you can't create from from a place with your restricted. You think about Yoga for when you do yoga was the point of doing yoga is to breathe to become one with your breath. But we can attach different Staus Yoga will have You know different Asana 's. You have your different practices where you can hold like you have a Yin Yoga where you're holding it for five minutes like the point of doing that is to loosen up your body to free your body to free your spirit of free your energy to free yourself right. and. When you're able to free yourself, there's no overthinking. Because when you're free, you have confidence like freedom gives you confidence. Part of overthinking is because of a lack of confidence. Right like I don't know what to choose. I'm not confident in either choice, while if you free yourself and you allow yourself to have free thought. Allow your emotions to just flow freely. To answer will come to you in even if you pick wrong. That's okay because who has who hits at one hundred percent in life. You know nobody Michael Jordan won six championships. You've been fifty percent from the field. He missed half the shots. So you know you don't have to be right all the time, so my practice is I. I have a practice every morning a more I have a morning routine that I go through. And it's about a two hour routine pretty much the same stuff. I have a a hot face towel wash, wash my face every morning every single morning and will not do that I. Say affirmations to myself so this morning. This morning. Affirmations were Gift Sophia goes stories, Gift Sophie Augusta That was this morning, so it was me. You know trying to predict what I wanted to do like you know. Put myself in a space where I could do what I need to do for. This moment where we're creating you know, but it could be something as simple as. Simplify, your life today or just be good today all every single morning I. Tell Myself How I. WanNa feel you know then from there. I write out journal. I get out my journal in. Just Journal could be a quick to do list. It could be a along thaw it could be emotions could be a poem it could be lyric is just whatever comes to me. I just a little bit. And then depending on the day, I may go for wrong or for stretch just Kinda, wake my body up. Take my multivitamins literally like every morning. I do the same thing to reboot. You know my system. And one of the things I'll talk about. Course is the reason people overthink is because they're making too many decisions per day because we have such thing as decision fatigue, so if you can cultivate part of your day to be automatic to where there is no thinking to where there is no decisions, then your channel capacity for making decisions gets. The you have a longer duration of it. See I'm not making this. Let's get up at nine unless I go to sleep at night because of my morning routine, I'm not making decisions from nine tonight. I'm only making decisions from one tonight, because the majority of my day said also our meal prep, so every single morning I eat the same thing i. just meal prep on Sunday, so Mahmoud is done so i. don't have to think about what am I gonNA eat? Also what I do is I wear the same clothes? I have stuff that you know. If I if I'm going out or some you know you know we got those votes, but for the most part I wear black. T. Shirt. If I'm doing something where you I have a meeting, our collar. But pretty much the same thing, so the first four hours of my day. There's no thinking it's it's routine in. It's a routine allows me to heal. Cultivate my power as soon as I wake up I. Don't touch my own I, don't I? Don't do social media like if you look my social media posts go up at six in the morning, but I have a a scheduler. So what I do is I. Lo-. My social media posts the night before and then a post in the morning, so I'm not on social media when I wake up I. Don't see my phone till one o'clock in the afternoon. That's incredible. These Felix such major steps. Honestly to to. Even more than just taking care of ourselves to love ourselves better. I really really liked that. How do you think? Because you talk about your journaling practice and this is something that's been coming up a lot in conversation recently. I think so many of us are doing a lot of reflection right now and I know that myself included. There's so many people who want to start a journaling practice. It. Is there a kind of jumping off point that you recommend people. Yes, for sure who WanNa do that, so the very first thing is you have to still journal from seven eleven, okay? As far as informal skate, you don't steal the journal. You don't really want okay. No, please don't still please. That was just my childhood thing. Chasm yes, sarcasm, please. Still. That was a joke Look I think you gotta go into a freely. I think if you go into his saying. I'm going to control. What is going to be I. Think you don't allow yourself to be free. You know if you look at some of my old journals. When I was playing football, I will be drawn. Football plays our repeat drawn like star trek stuff, writing, and it would all be in this journal, and that's how your mind is. That's how your emotions are. Everything is flowing right. I saw a paper. The other day was saying that it was saying that on average was. It was saying that we have anywhere from sixty five thousand and eighty thousand dollars today. So. If that's true, you know you can't go into it. Saying Hey I'm going to control what I'm GONNA, write down! You have to just let it flow. You know your moods, your emotions just let it flow. You know if if I wrote right. No, I'm happy. I'm not I'm not hungry. I'm not hot like Mah motions. Ma where I feel right now is a very high vibrational. Talking with you talk about creativity in is diving in so many things so I'm feeling really good right now, so five journaled. It will be a very positive uplifting thing. But if I journal first thing in the morning, maybe before I, brush my teeth before wash buffets. You know it might not be that good. You know it might be. Something might be different, but. They're both okay. They're both acceptable, so if you're looking to get into a journal practice, just go into with the mindset of the purpose of me. journaling is for my own freedom. It's not for any desired outcome. And, then the last thing is, don't have. Of the length one-sentence might be all you do. Hell there has been times in my journal where I have just written one word, so it may be one word, it may be one sentence. It may flow in it. You may have this long poem at the Odyssey. Don't have any expectation on the outcome. I love that the purpose of my journaling for my own freedom. Is there two more questions for you? and. Thank you so much for your time. Is there a piece of writing. A phrase or a little paragraph or something just based on to your point, this kind of energetic space that we found ourselves in that you'd want to share with people at home listening. Care Package Book, this is. My Best Book Has Been My care package book people really. Really loved this book. So, on page, two thirty four. There's this quote that says a lot can happen in a year. And it's. When I remember writing in, it says. A lot can happen in a year. People die you outgrow old friends and get tired of me jobs. NEW CAREERS COM. New Friends find your soul. But no matter what you grow. You. Lose your mind a little bit. Most importantly, you get a little wiser. Your. Circle gives smaller because you get stricter with your energy and time. And if you're really lucky. You'll find love and Saudi yourself. Inside of friends and family. In, just maybe the universe will bless you with a lover who laughs at your lane jokes. And yet that's one of my favorite ones. Lock having a year. That feels very apropos right now. I'm my friend. My favorite thing to ask everyone who comes on this podcast. Because, it is called work in progress. I'm curious when you hear. The phrase whether it's something personal or professional. What feels like a work in progress in your life right now? Give both, can they go? He s please. Let's go professional. I in I can end on personal so professional. This year been. So you go from space where you're working at your corporation, you're moving into entrepreneurship. You've been in entrepreneurship for seven eight years. What happens, is you. Do you end up doing too much? You end up over working in the working fifty sixty hours you're. Not having balanced. and. It's a good thing and I. I believe in duality. It's a good thing because there is a reward. For committing yourself to that type of work to that often to that frequency. But it's not a good thing because like I said you don't have the balance right in so this year coming into this year, my whole goal was to teach myself how to balance. So I was able to hire new people so hire new employees expand Montaigne. I was able to get some of the things off my plate that I'm not good at Mike Email and things like that. I'm not good at e mail responded. I'm really not good at that. Like mom ridden butter, creating in those I gotta spend time creating. In what was happening is my business was growing so much. That I was spending time there will be day. There will be weeks where I wasn't writing at all. Because all I'm doing. is you know editing videos or doing email Sedna podcast travel like? Lebron James it best. You GotTa, keep the main thing the main thing. The main thing for me is writing books so I had to kind of reverse engineer. You Norma. How was set up so I could get some balance in my life because I believe in balance, a believing in our body in our bodies, homeo- spaces. You know our bodies consistently looking for ballots. So Corona actually helped me with that balance. Because Corona has taken some things off my plate. From a business perspective that I didn't have that, I probably wouldn't have done. And it's helped me. Get a new balance so when when? We go to quote unquote normal. There are certain things that I'm GONNA to have to have a healthy bound with say no I can't do this because it's going to disrupt my balance that I've learned through the corona virus so I'm I'm very? Very grateful for where I am personally professional, she say on because I finally have balanced. I'm able to work work hard work. Smart in working smart is more important than working hard. That's what I've realized is so much more importance to work smart in a finally realized I need to work smart, not heart I needed to card at different times in my life, the moving forward. I WANNA work smart efficient. Would it make sure I have routine? I WANNA. Make sure I'm optimizing my time. And then also I need my personal time. The reason ema, personal time and the reason I'm a work in progress in the personal space, because I'm a new father, are so my son. His name is Mason in. Being, a father is something that I don't know what I'm doing. I have no clue whatsoever, so it's completely new space where every day I'm learning and I'm trying to figure out like I made him cry the other day. Because I was mocking him, he was like screaming. He's like yeah, yeah, so I like I tried to do it back to him I. Started crying and so I felt so bad because I feel like I made him cries, apologize to him, and I'm like Hey, man, I'm sorry. I was just mocking. You thought it was fun you know. And then he started laughing at me now you know he forgave me. So being father is something where it's like, I don't know what I'm doing. You know in some trying to figure it out. I'm trying to help the mother because she's amazing, she she's don't everything to make sure survives. And it's just. It's crazy. Experience. Go from like! Not like even a year ago, like the like the quote says like a year ago I didn't have a kid. Now have a kid in. It's like your mind shifts to like a new space in like four four. In the morning yesterday I woke up because I heard him scream in the middle of the night, so I woke up, and I'm like investigating I'm thinking. Somebody's in the house. Somebody's kidnapping him. He was just hungry. You know so far. I yeah, just adjusting to being a new father, and that is another reason why I wanted to balance. You know I didn't want to be someone who? Is overworking when you know kid at home. 'cause fatherhood is very important to me. That's one of the things that I WANNA do great. You Know I. Want my next book to do great. I want fatherhood to be great. You Know I. Want my course to do great. I want my life to be great. I Want I. Want to just have complete abundance in all pillars of my life. You know and I need that balance to do that. I, can't. I can't be overbalanced. I've gotTa make sure everything is getting enough of me. Thefts inspiring. Certainly something I know I'm working on is figuring out how to. Reduce a little bit. So that it's only the really really good stuff that remains, you know it's Har-. It's hard especially when you. When what you do impact so many other people May Get rid of this while now, this person's not gonNA. EAT, or they're not gonNA. Make the money that they're making off me. It's like that's the hard thing is when you're when you kind of become like a little quote, unquote empire and you have people who are dependent on your success is hard to. Think of Oh i. don't need to grow especially. We both work in business where they say you need growth. You need new customers. You need expanding where it's like well. Do I really. Say It's it's tough. It's a tough thing to figure out. On where we go. Where we go. This show is executive produced by me. Sophia Bush and Sims Arna. 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Ask Charlie Anything 04: Epstein, Drag Queens, California and More
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USA Headquarters is where Alex Clarke her show politics. And so we're live live here in Phoenix Arizona. Taking your questions. So what are we got I charlie. Do you think to California is lost for conservatives for Good Boys California law so if you WanNa look at a failed state it's definitely California now. I never want to say that any state is totally lost because some people thought you know twenty or thirty years ago some states that were just so liberal would never become conservative again. There's a lot of examples of states like that. All of a sudden now have become deep red states even some such as states that were kind of on the edge. Great it would be Wisconsin right example. It'd be Wisconsin. Wisconsin was a reliably blue state in the nineteen nineties and two thousands and now donald trump one of course a couple elections of Scott Walker and Senator Ron Johnson Johnson but California has some serious problems. Let me tell you we talked about this on another episode of the Charlie Kirk show the poor southern border The homelessness the defecation vacation The failing public schools. I'll tell you that we are. There's so many problems in California and you see Democrats always like to say we. We need gun control. We need more limitations on individual initiative and Freedom and liberty what what California really needs is Democrat control. They have they are one party state they really are. They're a one party state and because of that. There's no competition to actually provide success or provide results. I should say to your constituents kitchens. The best states the best performing states economically the best performing states financially and fiscally are states. That are actually very competitive politically because because the politicians actually have to go and say. Here's what I did for you now. Elect me again. Because here's what I did it with. I don't do that then. You could call me and my now new home. State of of Florida is a great example of that chlorine has school choice. It has one fourth. The amount of state employees that New York has at one sixty might have employers state employees. That California has even perky per citizen. We're talking about even the population adjusted per citizen has one of the best education system that has term limits. And you know what the income taxes in Florida Zero percent so for those in California my heart goes out to you. Guys but zero percent income tax in Florida's rather attractive the only thing California has to offer is the weather and even that is not as good times as it should be but I think America should look a lot more like Florida and a lot less Californian you know what the approval rating is for governor onto Santa's Anton Florida sixty eight percent. Try Try getting at that. High Gavin newsom. Next one Charlie. Do you think the big tech bias against conservatives is having a demonstrable effect on elections and if so what is the appropriate conservative response. Yeah I mean look big. This is one of the biggest issues. I have to say the biggest issues that I I hear about in the conservative conservative base as number one immigration and number two tech and talking about tech tyranny and oligarchs and you know the oligarchs if you will then have so much power in our kinda cold co culture and country and so I did some thinking about this and i. I was reading the federalist papers. That's what I do on weekends. Is I read the federalist papers. The basically I hear that's what a lot the people do with their free time. But when I read the federalist papers I realized that the founding fathers were always worried about centralize power and they said that the biggest amount of centralized centralized power that they were worried about was government. Now here's a question for you guys to contemplate who's more powerful Google or the United States government and there could be arguments arguments for both but Google has almost unlimited unrestricted power. And they don't have anyone ideologically that actually works for them. That believes in conservative libertarian values your principles and so look I think big tax is one of the biggest threats to freedom and liberty. And I don't know the correct answer for it. I mean I think to saying oh we should do nothing. Total Odalis as fair. I don't know if that's the answer anymore. We did a podcast on this too. That you guys can scroll back and listen to on the Charlie Kirk Show where we talk about how you know. Basically Google facebook doc. Instagram facebook Amazon has so much power. Have so much control and that if we do not do something serious sometime soon our freedoms and liberties could be encroached upon upon and so You know I think that that's something very important to talk about. It was recently announced that jared Kushner is directly involved with the building of the southern border wall question number one. Then why is there not more wall built and question number two will Kushner's involvement. Help finally get this accomplished. We'll look we do have some of the wall being built and I think look. I'm a friend of jared and I think that he's going to execute on it quite well and we need to build the wall. Look there is a crisis on our southern border. We have tens of thousands of people illegally entering into our country every single year. They're not immigrants. Rents these are not imigrants. These are border jumpers and line cutters. In fact it's a insult to actual imigrants when these people enter our country illegally and they enter the way they do The amount of drugs the amount of children that are being sex trafficked the poorest southern border makes our country more dangerous and puts our sovereignty at risk and and so. I have to tell you that. The Wall is critical to our national security. It's critical to our sovereignty. It's critical to who we are as a country. This is also why English should be the official official language of the United States. This is why we should not allow sanctuary cities or sanctuary states. And I've even said that we should birthright citizenship. So explain to me why somebody Hooah legally crosses into the United States of America across the southern border and might then have trial ten months later why that child should be a United States citizen that while they broke the laws. And don't take my word for it. Nikki Haley who gets under fire by certain people but she's a friend of mine. She said that if you break the law enter our country you're gonNA break the law while you're you're in our country and I tend to agree with that not to mention the tens of thousands of crimes that are committed by illegal aliens in our country. The amount of just our prisons that are being overrun overrun by illegals that are in America. The southern border needs to be secure. And it's a disgrace that our politicians have not secured the southern border. This is something that we talk about quite a lot autumn our podcast. And we're GONNA continue to next question. Charlie can we trust the polls coming out. The seemed to indicate trump has nearly thirty percent of the black vote. So look there's been three polls have shown that president trump is doing quite well in the black community Thirty four percents. I think thirty three percent and many of these polls reflect that there and I have to give a lot of credit to to the people that have been in the black exit of the Democrat Party Movement Brexit Candice Ellen's. We're very proud of you work that you have done. It's extraordinary it really is. And you're making a very serious difference in our country tree and our culture and you deserve huge amount of praise for it. Also Terrance Williams David Harris Junior and many others. We've seen such big impact. I'm telling you right now. If this black exit from the Democrat Party Continues President Trump will get elected in such a convincing way. He'll win states like New Jersey. It's unbelievable not to mention the lowest ever black poverty rate lowest lowest ever black unemployment rate. We see such amazing success results. Such as criminal justice reform such as opportunity zones enterprise reprise zones president trump is going to super bowl in the black community and I just love seeing president trump. Getting this kind of support and communities that has traditionally has not succeeded in. I've got new book coming out. Maga- doctrine and part of the Maga- doctrine is playing offense. Were conservatives have traditionally not one and part of that is going into communities like the black community and saying hey what do you have to lose five words that will get president. Trump elected in two thousand and twenty reelected school choice for black kids school choice for black kids. Kids will get him elected in two thousand twenty and I can't wait to see this black exit and the Democrat Party continue in some states. Did you know the week after Christmas. He's the heaviest case load for police. 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I actually actually think the conventional wisdom is now that there is some nefarious activity around his death. And but I will say this. I think that if the media really really wants to investigate the story first they have to purge their own. James O'Keefe Project Veritas. Got This leads tape of how. ABC that killed the Jeffrey Epstein lead story play tape. I've had three years. I've had this interview with Virginia. Roberts we would not put it on the air I I was told. WHO's Jeffrey Epstein? No one knows who that is. This is the Stupa Super Story Then the palace found out that we had her whole allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us a million different ways We were so afraid we wouldn't be able to interview Kate Wills that we also washed the story and then And then Alan Dershowitz. It was also implicated in because of the planes. She told me everything she had pictures. She had everything she was in hiding for twelve years. We convinced her to come out. We convince her to talk to us. It was unbelievable. We'll be Clinton we everything I I tried for three years to get it on to no avail. And now it's all coming out and it's like these new revelations and freaking handle all of it I I'm so pissed right now like every day I get more and more pissed because I'm just like Oh. Oh my God we what we had was unreal other women backing up pay. Yep Right Edwards. The attorney three years years ago saying like on like week. There will come a day where we will realize. Jeffrey was the most prolific pedophile. This country has ever known and I had it all three years ago. Oh so that was any robot from ABC News Unbelievable Audio. She had the story she had the people and yet it was the media that covered up for this Animal Jeffrey Epstein and they did nothing. They've never been held accountable for it. Ever so they would rather protect the superpredators then actually do real investigative journalism and guess what people are silent about it and people need to start going to prison forever for this and you know what that might mean Prince Andrew you know. What if he's an Aristocrat Child Predator than he should be held accountable for what he you did? That includes every person who can be proven under a jury their peers. That engage in this sort of activity with that animal. Jeffrey Epstein Next Question Charlie now that Warren seemed stalled. Bloomberg's entered the race. Kamla is out and Biden has remained steady. Who Do you think is most poised to win the Democratic presidential nomination? This is a great question so I this question a lot. The answer is I'm not a Democrat first and foremost thank goodness. I'm so happy and grateful that I live in America and that's exactly why I'm not a Democrat not exactly y but it's large in part wise. I'm going to go to realclearpolitics. Dot Com is the firsthand analysis of exactly what I believe about that question but I do you guys look look. I hope you guys love football. I hope you guys because if you love football you're probably a happier person and if you don't love football who'll be some sports. I Love Sports. I think sports can be a metaphor for so many different things. He's got some massive college football coming up. We got the PAC twelve championship where the ducks are against Utah. The ducks screwed it up. The duck stood up against Arizona. State ever the table has been set for them screwed it up Auburn beat Alabama. That needed to happen. Everything was perfect and they lost to a very mediocre Arizona State team. I can't say that too loudly here at our turning point. USA headquartered in Phoenix Arizona. Half my office went to Arizona State University at least it seems that way nevertheless Got Some Great Games coming up with the SEC. The championship game which will finally not include Alabama. Which I'm pretty thrilled about we got LSU versus Georgia? All I can say is I actually liked Joe Borough Joe Borough seems like a Class Act. I really like him I think he's a terrific guy. In fact I would love to see Joe Borough go up against Ohio state. Because that's where he used to play and they decided not got to play him. But if you guys are totally disagree with my analysis go to bed online dot. Ag Promo Code. podcast one and get in on the action now. Kirby smart a head coach Georgia i. I think he might be able to cook up a little bit of mastery. I think that he might be able to pull off an upset against Lsu and get Georgia into the College Football playoff. That would make me feel a lot better as a duck San because then that would mean okay. Oregon would not have gotten over Georgia but at Lsu SEC championship game. I will not feel as good We also have the big ten championship game. Wisconsin Brazil State Ohio states playing like the best team in the country. 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And buying I up a whopping nineteen points in South Carolina just so we understand the betting odds though Buddha judge has come in second place now in the in the bedding outs and the person I just can't figure out the person that and I've done commentary on this before but Biden is up eleven points nationally which is just amazing to me. I gotTA play this again. Not all these guys. Listen to every single episode of the Charlie Kirk Show. I gotta play it again so please right now. If you haven't go back in a prior episodes of Charlie Kirk Show and you know what I'm going to play what Joe Biden mindset that. I WANNA play a clip from Mark Stein Tucker Carlson which might have been one of the most beautiful pieces of television I've ever seen. It was laugh out loud hilarious. Good so let's play the clip. I of the Joe Biden talking about his leg hair and young children sitting on his lap. Play tape and by the way you know I sit on the stand and to get hot I gotTa Lot. I got Harry legs. That turned that that that that turn blonde in the sun and the kids used to come up and reach in the pool and rubbing up my leg down so it was trained in that. Watch the hair co- come back up again. They look at it. So I learned about Roach's I learned about kids jumping on my lap and I love kids jumping that I don't know what that was but let's play tape of Mark Stein on Tucker Carlson with I think it was one of the best three minutes of television I've ever seen. It was uh-huh smooth laugh out loud comedy central style hilarious stuff play tape. I avoided all my life. Talk for a hairy legs candidate and this is the this is the critical lane in the Democrat primary. We talk about the mold redlining the socialist lane the even more socialist thing but the heavy leg lane lane has been wide open bay. To- instagram'd himself shaving his legs back in August and then using an rubella exfoliating to moisturised them Biden cunningly soul that there was an opening for her suit legged candidate to me. Harry licentious screamed toxic. Masculinity they're almost the definition of it. Well I think you'll I think that you'll get to hug up on it you you know. There's absolutely nothing weird about city a seventy year old boy on your lap and inviting into smooths down your leg. And and then what she gave rise again. I believe in fact that seven year old boy was the junior lifeguard at the pool. Young Kim Jong UN who was willing to work exchange as your program from North Korea. That salary knows him. And that's why Kim Kim Jong UN saying those legs and that's why he's terrified Biden. Whoever that kid is I suspect? He's is now consulting his lawyer. Do you think that this this is like the macro political question which I'm bound duty-bound to ask Cable News. Host does all of this help or hurt. Joe Biden in his. Apparently his day job is primary goal of getting the nomination for whatever party he belongs to I think on balance it helps him because if he went it crazy and talking gibberish we'd be talking about. How corrupt squall it he and his family are in fact I I originally? When the winning said it was the no Malarkey so I thought that was no Malaki? Who is the chairman of Barack Obama? And all they got who actually wanted to come on the Iowa. Toby Hunter Biden wanted to charge him. Forty seven million dollars to accompany them. That's why it's the noma lackey. I should yeah. I really should let our viewers that none of this is scripted. I have no idea what the questions you just throw out. Whatever comes to the top of my head and those are your responses? I talked a Biden campaign. The parents live so good. Mark Stein. Thank you you know what that tells me listening to Tucker Carlson and Mark Stein on kind of going on a tangent. How dead is late night? Comedy I mean this stuff is ready to make fun of itself and yet I have not seen one. Funny thing from Jimmy. Kimmel or from Stephen Colbert there. Are Jimmy Fallon Jimmy. Fallon's pie the least offender. He seems to be the most light hearted about it and the least political. But I'll tell you what do you notice that. No one really laughs at these shows anymore. Yet they clap. Trevor No is showing everyone's clapping and no one's laughing. It shouldn't be called comedy central Communist Central. I mean it's as if the people are more more focused on destroying Donald Trump. Then laughing and having a good time about it and that's perfectly respectable thing. I guess if you hate America and are very unhappy to yourself just MSNBC to do that. In fact I think. MSNBC's funnier on your than comedy. Central does watch all in with Chris. Hayes I mean. The guy is a disaster with his analysis. Not to mention you got Lawrence O'Donnell who's makes an incorrect observation of basically everything the one thing that bothers me the most NBC. Why does Rachel maddow where the same thing every single night is is there a strategy behind it is there some sort of like three dimensional chess for one? Sometimes she's GonNa come out and boom where like a readdress. It's the same thing every single night really bothers me next question Charlie. I'm seeing a lot of people on twitter talk about Christian nationalism in drag McQueen story hour do you think it's on the rise and if so what's causing it so look. This is a really important question. There is a debate between David French and so rob Murray. I missed I. I apologized for pausing. I just don't want to mispronounce it and it was basically about a lot of it was focused on this idea of the drat child's drag story our drag McQueen story hour and to be honest. I'm a little bit in the middle. I mean David French I would be. I would have been more on the David French camper. He argued that okay. There are drag Queens. Is doing story hour two young children and we should do nothing because basically we shall we say it's detestable. He agreed that it was disgusting. But basically dissolution not use the law against that because it could be used against us in the future and so rob our Mari said. Are you kidding me. This is disgusting. We need to do something dramatic against it and if we don't do something something like what point is the societal and cultural decay enough and I have gone through a lot of different ways especially in the last year and a half I. I'm getting closer and closer towards that. We we have to do something about this sort of societal decay and actually does affect all of us the fact that you know drag Queens should be able to have open access to young children. I mean look. All the left does is is rob children of their innocence. That's why this argument when the West has oh donald trump. We can't have the president on in front of our children. Yeah okay but you're perfectly fine with sending them to a public school and planned. Parents comes into sex education when they're nine years old. Oh we can't have the president. I was one of his magazine because he might swear yet. Then you go take him to an NC seventeen movie where there's someone with automatic automatic machine gun not wearing any clothes saying the F. Word every other word that's perfectly fine. That's sort of societal. Decay is opening the minds of our young children. But you see young children. I'm being exposed to these horrible horrible things so basically this is going to be the new debate on the right. Which is where are the guardrails that we put in place of some of this leftist garbage and his left his cancer so that we're putting into our country? At what point do we say that government should play a role and look. I'm very apprehensive. And I'm very skeptical. The US government. At all in fact I think government should do the least amount possible but I'm getting closer and closer to the argument that if we do not do something bold and dramatic we're GONNA have a country that is soon unrecognizable where you have children decided to choose their own gender. I mean Palatine high school but right down the street where I went to high school. I went to wheeling high school right down the street at Palatine High School. You not men who think they are women that are now able to compete not able to go into locker rooms and compete in sports. They can biological women. I think the president trump had a rally just called. That men aren't women. I think this would be a great idea for a rally. President trump could have the men. Aren't women women aren't men then rally. I think people would flock from all across the world to go to this rally and she should give a speech saying men are not women and women are not men not that there's anything wrong with people who think that they are but it's just not true if he says that and he says I as president of the United States. I'm going to sign an executive order that any school that allows a biological logical man. Who thinks he's a woman to compete against other women and collegiate sports lose all their federal funding? It would absolutely blow the lid off of this entire hire nonsense that the left has created around transgenderism by the way where the feminists in this whole debate. Where the feminist that are taking a hardline stance? So I you want a shirt that says men are not women. If you guys think I'm totally wrong you think that women are men and men or women emailed me at freedom at Charlie Kirk Dot Com. That's freedom at Charlie Kirk Dot Com. And you guys might okay. We'll try that's kind of ironic. You wanted freedom. You should have the freedom. Of course you have the freedom to make mistakes. Of course you're the freedom do stupid stuff but I also have the freedom of call balls and strikes and I have the freedom to tell you you're wrong and I'm going to tell you that men not women and women are not men. The holiday shopping season is here and this year. Your gift can start a next year's good habit with quip quip quip is something. That's sure to put a smile on everyone's mouth because dental care. They'll actually wants to use every single day. That's why is the perfect thoughtful impractical gift with an electric metric toothbrush refillable floss and toothpaste all intentionally designed to make good habits. Simple the quip. Electric toothbrush has sensitive sonic vibrations and they timer with thirty second pulses to guide your routine and the quit floss dispenser has premark string so you can always use the right amount. 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She's unbelieveably dumb and so I'm GonNa let's play tape right now of her with the heads of the she's the chairwoman or the chairman. Whatever I don't want to I don't know how the genders work over there okay? The chair person the chair human of the Financial Services Committee and she had the heads of all the banks and she was asking them questions about student loans and she didn't even know they were not doing student loans anymore. She thought they were still issuing student. Loans else I knew that. Let's play tape thank you today. There are more than forty four million Americans that Oh this is student. Loan crisis one point five six trillion in student loan debt last month. This committee testimony that last year one million student loan borrowers which is on top of the one million bars who defaulted. How did the year before? What are you guys doing to help us with the student? Loan debt. Who would like antifreeze? This Mon- Hand Big Bang. We'd stopped making in student loans in two thousand seven or so so you don't do it anymore Mr Club. We actually did student lending in two thousand nine Mr Diamond when the government took over through minding in two thousand ten or so we stopped doing doing lending at thank you. maxine waters also encourage people to come after to go after people like myself saying detonator getting their face scream at them. Play tape side to make sure we show up wherever we have to show. Hello everybody from that cabinet and a restaurant gasoline station. You the U.. maxine waters not a fan if she never never if she never serves again in the US Congress dimension. She got supply supremely rich while her district is in total complete ruin and disrepair. She is a dismiss honorable woman. She's a diss honorable Democrat. Senator Dick Durbin. This guy's a disaster I from my home state of Illinois. He's so dishonest honest. He's so sanctimoniously. So self-righteous Dick Durbin. I wish you would not have to serve my original home state of Illinois any longer you irritate me to no end. Look the worst president. That doesn't I heralded as a good president. Lyndon Baines Johnson Bitter Racist started the Great Society Program continued the illegal and borderline Immoral war in Vietnam Lyndon Baines Johnson got people addicted to government programs. Grew government tremendously really really bad guy. Also also a president that was horrible was Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He gets unneeded credit for what he did. He had all these horrible programs that we're still trying to get rid of that. Totally dramatically increased the size size and scope of government But worse than all of them put together and combined was Woodrow Wilson. This guy was a disaster. I think Senator Elizabeth Warren his closest to Woodrow Wilson ideologically logically and also from a worldview perspective. So those are my opinions of my least favorite people that have served in United States political office. And I think that it's it's very important important that we understand and know our history and far too often people. Don't talk about what presidents were good and what presidents weren't so good one of those three presidents. have in Common Woodrow Wilson. Franklin Roosevelt Mundane Johnson. They were unapologetic leftists. That grew government shrank freedom and liberty and put this country in a far less competitive and advantageous situation. Charlie I want to get involved in politics but don't know where to start. I'm eighteen just about to head off to college. What should I do so if you guys want to involve the best way to start is to get involved with turning point? USA NOT USA DOT COM. That's T P DOT COM have a massive palm beach do next summit coming up. 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Charlie what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Eighty Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. We are lucky to have Charlie Charlie. Cook's running the White House. I WANNA thank Joe. He's an incredible guy his spirit his love of this country as done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organisations ever created turning point. USA not embrace ace the ideas that have destroyed countries destroyed lives and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. The thank you Charlie tonight. I didn't know who expect. or how many do expect because of the rain scares rain. The driver he's from Chicago Chicago so we were talking about how brutal it is for him. Living in Chicago experiencing that weather and I told them what we we do get when the sand gets in between our flipflops chafes our toes so we do if we see the sun in this month. We're very happy in in Chicago so you have it quite nicer. Well we we do have a nice rate here because it's raining right now which is so rare for a so so charlie. We're going to dive right into. Yes I am so excited because you have a platform and an opportunity to speak and not only speak but you speak with a knowledge that is beyond your years. You've I'm sure you've heard this from people. It's actually a gift given you by God people tonight. We'll know this if they've encountered you. There's something absolutely nunnelee charismatic about you but you are a man that understands inst- things that many of the aged miss you are unique and I consider you a national treasure and I just just so look forward to your future are are desirous to pray for you to stand behind you and support you. Listen what I want to just lay out this evening and then on we go. Jesus Christ himself said that that when the opportunity had come for the citizen of the Roman Empire are just show their allegiance. A coin was brought before Jesus and it had the inscription of Caesar on that coin and they thought aw that is the hierarchy thought that they could stump Jesus with this. Because if Jesus says that you should take this coin that has Caesar's this inscription on it and you should pay taxes. Then you're going against the temple but if he says it any other way we've got him on a dilemma. We're we're going to get Jesus no matter how he answers this and of course. Jesus being God ask the people whose inscription is on this coin. And the people shouted Caesar's and Jesus said then render to Caesar the things that Caesar's and to God the things that are God's and it was a brilliant statement that left them befuddled in fact it says at the end of that moment went. They dared not ask him any more questions after that. Why because Jesus made it very clear that Caesar's Coin Caesar Roam the Empire didn't belong to Caesar? It belonged to God himself. And when we talk about that this is not a political discussion tonight right. This is a cultural discussion. This is a discussion around Judeo Christian values. This is a discussion about the issues of life and and all of that is under the jurisdiction of God. You need to understand that tonight. So when Charlie and get into this and start talking you need need to remember this stuff matters because you're going to be hearing things that might be quite shocking to some of your kids in college and you're going to possibly possibly want to ask the question. What can we do about it? So Charlie tell start us off with what's turning point all about. What are you doing short? So it's it's such an honor to be here so kind of surprised to be able to go to a church and get a warm welcome not exactly the state of Modern Christianity as I've voice seen it so this is Kudos to you and just such a blessing to be here so thank you so much for that and to be able to speak fellow Christians that are equally as concerned about the crisis in our culture in our country because it's happening in front of our very eyes and there is a crisis happening in Christianity. And we'll dive into that tonight of course so a little bit more my background not much of a background being the age I am but not exactly very long but it's been eventful nevertheless I started turning point. USA which is the nation's shins largest conservative student organization. Present on over fifteen hundred high school and college campuses. Thank you thank you. I started guarded this seven and a half years ago. My whole life leading up to that. I was very focused on doing what most high schoolers WANNA do. Getting a good school and go to college ended up getting getting into my dream school which was West Point and it was the best thing that ever happened to me and I convinced that's exactly right and I thought my dreams were crushed and everything was going to go downhill from there and boy got as a way of surprising. You when you think you've got it all figured out. Especially at that age. I convinced my parents to allow me to take take a gap year before entering college. It's now been seven and a half gap years and I could do a whole lot longer. Speech on the value of gap years and kind of the scam that has college in higher education. But we can get into that too which in parents have to be very acutely aware of how most students are getting ripped off and most four year universities -versities and most universities don't honestly care about the students that they're running through their overly inflated and quickly diminishing value degrees dishing out while teaching teaching students to hate our country. Not Believe in God besides that. It's a great place so turning-point USA's unbelievable journey throughout the last seven and a half years seeing it grow. We say we're on the front lines of America's culture. We are a secular organization but I will say Christian proud Christian vocal Christian. I believe in the Gospel. Jesus Christ at the Guy Never shy away from saying that and it's amazing. How many people that come through our ranks and communicate? We're doing ended up finding Christ when they actually find people that will stand for Truth and truth. That is originally rooted in the Bible Truth of hard work dignity freedom liberty separation Russian of powers things quite honestly. Our founders were inspired by the judeo-christian construct in the Bible the word of God and they created the greatest framework of the greatest country country ever to exist in the history of the world. We have so much to be thankful for living in this country and unfortunately our our next generation a lot of your children my peers. There's and my generation. They're being taught bitterness that they live in this country. There's one part of America right now. That's angry that live in America. The other part that is thankful that they live in America. Let's that's simple when you're not thankful for something you make no qualms about destroying that something or deconstructing that something and I always kind of joke around with people that want to deconstruct our country and our culture on Thanksgiving what are you thankful for. And who are you thankful to. And the and the honest answer is most of them aren't in fact. It takes a deliberate effort mostly by the secular left to try to teach bitterness when you live in a country with as much blessing and opportunities. We have here we. We have our challenges. We make mistakes. America's not a mistake. Make no mistake about that. America's not a mistake. There you go the fact that we have the type of fabric in this country that we have the opportunity to freedom the liberty and I'm afraid though that we now have a growing generation that is being instructed and taught to to not be thankful for this experiment and instead try to participate in the deconstruction of it. So that's what I that's the message that I bring the college and high school campuses every single day I'm I'm the only conservative speaker ever speak at Ucla Berkeley and Stanford and one semester and lived to tell about it. And I'm on the road. Three hundred forty five days a year. I love every minute of it and some of you guys might have seen one or two of my videos where I have very very opinionated but people that are constantly wrong but never in doubt individuals screaming in my face. About how horrible. Whatever they think I believe in most of its misrepresentations are but I'll tell you being a Christian in this culture where we understand? It's really a spiritual or happening in our country right now and that's the real divide even beyond all the political all right versus left. It's light versus darkness. It's now and what we cannot. We'll talk about this at length but I see a direct connection with the rise of Atheism in this country and secularism with the rise of leftism and I say that atheism is the fastest growing religion in America and the failure for Christians to recognize realize in that when people stop believing in a higher power when people stop believing in God whether be addressed Scott. And I'm Nisshin impotent. God well something has to replace yearning for meaning. Human beings have built into our our our DNA bit built into an existence is a desire to find order order in this disorderly world and traditionally we have taught the Judeo Christian tradition to our children. And now. Unfortunately we're teaching that you can find some sort of false fulfillment in a secular world and that creates miserable people and even worse. It creates a chaotic society chaotic culture. And one that is that is quickly quickly getting away from the roots. That created this country. Charlie but yes. The campus agree with you fully completely. But doesn't the child arrived on campus. Already ill equipped I mean without a doubt and so I say this I think churches are not doing enough to take declared it stands hands on these cultural issues and when we start to have men think they are women competing against women and female sports. This is unacceptable and it's immoral and by the way where all the feminists based on this is Jack so so perfectly will where the leftist media say. Where do you get that? That's genesis. Is this one one. You'd have to flip through your Bible to find that God created man and woman and it's like not that it's not exactly that difficult and understanding in understand very basic biology very basic science science in the left always likes to say that well. We're we're pro science. You guys are anti science well. It's actually the exact opposite when the further you dive into mathematics and the deeper dive in the science the more that should confirm you're already deeply held belief that God is real real and that there was a creator behind all of this. I like to say I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. I don't have enough faith to believe that everything that we know to be true. And all the unbelievable scientific discoveries that have been that. We've we've achieved that somehow. This is a mistake. Takes a lot more faith to believe that than to believe that there was a loving God behind this entire experiment and this entire life that were able to participate in but even beyond this children aren't being inundated in the culture there being misguided by public schools on the church outside of this church. But I'm talking the General Church not this specific church is confused and afraid. They're afraid of losing membership which is a bunch the nonsense and you're not running a restaurant you're running a church. Okay if you lose ten percent of your membership things so what and I use this example. I'm originally from Chicago Illinois. The Fun thing about being from Illinois is we have term limits in Illinois. It's a little different than California. Term limits are term limits is one term in office one term in jail so then we asked for our governor cell number we actually mean his the cell number so I'm originally from the suburbs of Chicago and you guys might have saw the news article recently that at Palatine high school men who think they are women are now allowed locker rooms with young women and the young women are so upset about this and of course the feminists are silent. The suburban MOMS are basically silent the school billboard taken over by radical secular leftist. But you know who else was silent is. The Church was silent Palatine high school where I went to school right down the street. The church that I grew up in as issued. No Oh statement has said nothing about this and when you have crisis is happening in your culture that are in direct defiance to the law that God gave I gave Moses and reinforced forced throughout the greatest book and the the word of God and then of course was was fulfilled by Jesus Christ the son of God and God himself then. What are we doing here? Because there's there's here's the here's the conflict happening and one of the crisis happening Christianity. Do we just want to be correct and have our own little enclave in the hills or we're going to go fight in the culture and going to proclaim acclaimed truth when it's difficult and when there's price and I find at times it's not. It's not to say that there are any any less less correct theologically or they might believe the things deeply-held but I do not believe in this particular time we're called to just look inwardly and especially when it comes to civic engagement in the public policy debate soon and boy has never been more clear choices of what Christian Christian should believe in this confused culture whether it be as you mentioned the sex education nonsense. It's happening here in California whether it be the public funding of abortions that's happening at the federal level through planned parenthood or whether it be the attack on religious liberty I mean these are very morally. Clear decisions that we as Christians can make and I'm I'm afraid that the Church's silent if not complicit with some of this stuff and I and there's there's differences between evangelical and Catholicism but far too often you find you find priests you'll find certain people and certain traditions be outwardly. 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Let's change gears a little bit but by no no means Charlie do have to take anything off the table so you said earlier and I agree and you could hear the people applaud you that the issue behind it all spiritual. We believe that scripture makes it very clear when we look at. What's happening right now? In our nation the United States right now standing opposition to globalism personified in the person of Donald Trump. He is the block block wall of globalism right. We know from scripture that globalism the rise of it it's written inscription we understand and we get that the point that I'm trying to make is this. Where do you see both off in front of the scene behind the scene? This impeachment thing going yeah. I'm happy to talk about that in. Bring it up for this reason. I bring it up for this reason because somebody might say well. What was the Bible? The Bible warns in the last last days that there's going to be a rejection of authority period just a rejection of authority that when there there was no one in charge as the Old Testament teaches as well every man does. What's right in his own is so right now? We have a nation that is taking the constitution or shit should say some leaders. That are taking a constipation constitution to the brink on this impeachment issue. Speaking to that. What's happening? Yeah what's up. Let let me just St- the same in churches. I wouldn't be and I'll just say I'm a very vocal supporter under this president. And I have been for quite some time. And if you're not then I'll try to convince so I I we get plenty of people that criticize that. And that's fine but let me let me tell you first and foremost Y I believe what I believe first and foremost Christian. Then I'm a constitutional non-american the American that I'm a constitutional listen. I'm a conservative in that order so as a Christian I believe that all of this politics and all this there is a greater calling to all of it now. That's not a substitute to not getting engaged edge in the civic debate to not getting engaged in politics and it's definitely not an excuse in fact it's the exact opposite that the scriptures say very clearly and in the theological belief that I have and that I understand all of you have that you do good works because you are saved. You don't do good works to get safe safe. And so no matter what you are in go and express your values and you and you go forth as Christian that saved by Jesus Christ God in three parts and so then you say to yourself when in human history has there been big advances for freedom and liberty for natural rights. When when was there a great leap forward because most of human history there the Roman Empire the Greek Empire the Byzantine the Chinese Empire? But when did things change and why did they really change and you look at the American. Founding is something that could only be explained as the intervention of God at how this nation was formed and most importantly the ideas behind this country the ideas of where our rights come from. Let's just start with that. That our rights not come from king a ruler a tyrant someone that was born it into an doesn't come from government they come from God this is so fundamentally transformation and then just from an objective analysis you you have to say is the world a better place because of the United States of America and the answer is of course even even if you say you don't like this country if you don't answer that question a yes or not looking at history. Honestly the most benevolent generous creative accepting country ever to exist in the history of the world we take in tap. The world's immigrants give away the most money to charity when earthquake natural disaster strikes. You don't call the Belgians you don't call the French find countries you call the Americans or something built into the fabric occur. This country is Alexis de Tocqueville and many other said America will only be great if America continues to be good and so the question is what are these founding ideas separation of powers articulated in the United States constitution where our rights come from fair and impartial judges. That don't say don't enact as judges of what they want to see they're not activists but instead instead of the law actually says the belief in a free market economy and I could make and I will make the biblical case for a free market economy. That socialism Marxism Collectivism. Some are actually in defiance a two of the ten commandments and directly against the teachings of Jesus Christ. Somehow that you shouldn't have to work and blame other people for your problems and take other people's stuff I I don't find that supported anywhere in the Gospel. Jesus Christ in fact I find the exact opposite and so with all that being all that being why I believe what I believe leave. We have to understand that prior to the election of Donald Trump and his improbable election. Almost impossible in some would say again. I think and I've said this publicly. It seems as if if that God came down and intervened at that moment and spoken to a lot of different people where two choices were so clear one side says I believe in post birth abortion and the other side says. I'm going to be a pro-life president. One one person says here the judges that I'm gonNA nominate and the other person says I'm going to continue down this path and so with president trump with all of his his flaws. I'm flawed your flood. We're all centers. But if we're all of a sudden going to remove all the centers from the Bible then you can take Samson right out of there right you take him out of the spiritual home of the. Yeah no doubt however God speaks into particular people for particular moments and what he has been able to do. Let's talk about what matters to US Christians. The life issue the most pro-life President in American history. Cindy the Mexico City policy nominated breadth Cavanaugh and nominated yield gorsuch and one hundred fifty circuit court judges who not to mention a huge issue in the Christian community is the horrendous sin of sex trafficking and this president washed down backpage dot com. Tom Has emboldened ice and the FBI to arrest more sex traffickers than the fast for administrations combined. Some we don't talk about enough. Listen did you hear then Charlie repeat that again because this and maybe you're up. Maybe you're watching. Maybe you're here tonight and and in your what. Is it the apprehensive the white female suburban women who is supposed to be anti-trump research. You know what we're hearing so repeated again regarding sex traffic. I would hope everybody in this room would be against sex trafficking and and in particular there was a website that existed called backpage dot com the stomach the earth and for years the government tried to get shut down and basically this was an online marketplace lacework. Children's sex trap was children traffic. It's so beyond disgusting and it was hosted on back servers and through a Republican led Congress and through the president's leadership the ship with vodka trump in the White House. They said we're GonNa shut this thing down. And they passed a bill in the House of Representatives in the United States Senate and the previous Congress not this Congress my goodness. They're too busy doing whatever the heck they were doing today having professors tell us you know anyway we can talk about that later but they shut that website down and with that the president had states ended the war on ice and ice by the way ice immigration customs enforcement. They are the number one agency that goes an arrest child sex traffickers which is a huge problem in our country by the which there is more sex trafficking happening in America than most people would ever believe and the arrest I finally. They're going up these. These sick individuals are being held accountable for the almost for the sin that is almost unspeakable of what they're doing in our society and this president has has directed his agencies to make this a top priority for the domestic law enforcement agencies. And that should be. There should be something that all people operations care about such as religious freedom and religious liberty. If we're honest with ourselves there is an attack and assault on religious liberty throughout the previous administration whether it be the religious liberty and religious freedom executive orders that were passed or the judges that he put replace. Do you know how many presidents ever spoken at the march for life. Just one this present at the press. The United States President Bush President Clinton President. Ace W in this is the first president who's actually been able to cut funding to planned parenthood and other thing. You probably didn't hear it in your Daily News. Not all of it. But he's caught some of it. He thought about two hundred million dollars in planned parenthood. And they're they're just in a total. They're they're upset. Good is what I say. I'm glad that they're upset. And that whole debate gets mislabeled as a debate around around women's health. There are other places that do unbelievable work. Pregnancy crisis centers women's health clinics that don't offer abortifacient or abortion services Mrs that do that sort of women mammogram and work. That should be getting that funding if we want to actually fund women's health that don't push abortion abortion as much as they do and as someone who's very pro-life and vocally pro-life I'm happy to see a president also stand on the sidelines. So I say all that and so. Here's the challenge is that president trump had entering the challenge that he had historically and I have this. I'm articulating. This in an upcoming book is trying to revitalize a nation that felt like it was in decline. I want you to understand that. This is so historically unprecedented. It's only been done. Maybe eight or nine times in world history not even American history King Justinian did it with the eastern Roman an empire in instituted the Justinian code and all but basically helped spread Christianity to places that are otherwise and never done queen. Elizabeth Abraham Lincoln Winston Winston Churchill. Who might have been the most courageous clear thinker of the twentieth century that all save Western civilization so president trump had in front of them a country that was almost accepting a descent into mediocrity? And something that I say is a Christian. I in an American second. We have to realize and recognize as America being the greatest country in the history of the world world that we're not the same morally as Iran. We're not on the same footing as some of these countries that do not have the same foundational principles or ideas that we have and so this idea and this descent into globalism is basically making America on an equal footing with countries that have medieval devaux. Islam Oh fascism as the ruling as the ruling doctrine of their country and what president trump said and he's a defender of sovereignty. First and foremost is this country plays. He's a special role in the defense of our own citizens but also the entire world and a strong America means a freer world internationally. And so what he's done is so remarkable Qabala. I'm outspoken about I get plenty of people that disagree and reasonable disagreement is just fine however what I don't find comforting. I'll say this about the impeachment. Which is were your questions started? Which is how many times have these individuals that have been testifying over the last two weeks? How many times they interrupted by protesters? None Zero Oh. How many times were the people that were test? Brad Kavanagh was testifying. How many times is he interrupted over two hundred thirty times and what I have? Isn't that one just a sample sample size of one side the conservatives that no matter how borderline unethical and immoral impeachment is you'll still respect the the process and respect the institution be decent throughout that process. Where the other side is rather machiavelli and the ends justify the means? We'll we'll pay protesters go there and screen green and shout and and I'm a little bit frustrated at that. Double Standard isn't always talked about but just from basic. You know what talk about the impeachment. You can't impeach someone when there's no crime and Jonathan Turley said it so well today testifying as one of the professors. What exactly is the crime? Here's right just you. You can't teach your president because you don't like twitter account you can't teach your president because you wish he wouldn't have won an election and you can't impeach the president just because you hope he doesn't win reelection and it sure seems that the true motives are now coming out. And here's what really frustrates me. We got a lot of problems in this country are the greatest country to exist. We're twenty two trillion dollars hours in debt. We're posting a trillion dollar deficit this year. We got prescription drug prices skyrocketing. We got trade deals that need to be signed. We got four and occupations that Aghanistan that I think I need to be reconsidered. We have serious problems in this country and the time and the energy and the attention of our representatives in the United States Congress is trying to impeach and remove a president despite having election in twelve months if you don't like them that's fine canvas and find your own candidate but use your time in the United States. Congress to solve problems blooms not politically ran. Stand against the president that you don't become so evident that their hatred hatred for him is greater than their their love. If there is a love for this country that have that they are rabid and the questioning if you had a chance to watch the questioning and everything. I don't know if you pointed this out or for it was Shapiro. Someone pointed handed it out laid it out. How many times you heard a them say I feel I felt as correct? It was my assumption. I it seemed to me all of these things literally. It's in the hundreds and hundreds where you're supposed to be unaffected finding mission and you have somebody under oath getting testimony saying well. I felt like what was going on. Wasn't the right thing to do a a low level. no-one criticizing the discussion between two presidents of two sovereign nations. These things are insane. Oh which is a harbinger of what's coming with this election. We've not discussed this this but I think I think Charlie I might share a view. I many of you asked me prior to the two thousand sixteen election. You asked me who I the thought remember. I started out as campaign and endorsing Ted. Cruz did you walker then crews and I gotTa tell I got to tell you I always watching right now. But with all due. Respect to Senator Cruz. Kim Jon UN and Ladimir Putin would eat him alive. Okay wouldn't have worked then you asked me do you. Who Do you think Hillary is going to win? Or do you think trump's trump's going to win and I told you if you look at it hands down Hillary's going to win. mathematically hands down. She's is going to win unless there's a miracle I had a little caveat there unless there's a miracle I believe there has to be a miracle for this next election. That's equal to for this reason. There's enough going on with Elizabeth Warren. There's there's enough going on with Buddha judge boot edge. Buddha judge can never pronounce it correctly Buddha. The judge Buddha boots edge edge Buddha Buddha judge Judy judge. There's enough going on where it's scary enough that if college college age kids decide to vote when Obama said Hey hey make sure you go out and vote on Tuesday. They and they went out and voted never paid attention to another thing again. That can happen again. And I don't like the idea of you know it's not over until the fat angel things I don't like thinking thinking oh the economy and the the strength and the all this is going so well of the Selections Slam Dunk. I don't think so I don't think so I think it's GonNa take another Miracle Goal for Donald Trump to get elected because I'm concerned with how. How dumb because listen we can become real real content real fast and forget real quick that concerns? You need to register to vote and we'll tell you later in the year vote. I love this church. Screw so let's let's talk about two thousand sixteen so every election has its themes so two thousand eight first election. I really was really aware of the the election of rock Obama growing up in the Chicago suburbs. Everyone was supportive of Barack Obama and that election was tired of eight years George Bush but it was more just about a very it was a movement towards what can be possible. What kind of leader can we achieve? And President Obama was a much better candidate than John McCain and that was kind of the east coast of that election two two thousand twelve. Not as much. There wasn't as much kind of a pattern or a theme. So it's not not as distinguishable twenty-six very very specific theme and President Donald Trump was the right person for the right moment so in two thousand sixteen there was pent up anxiety in both political parties. That were fed up with the establishment and the ruling Class S.. That seems to continue to stay in power while the rest of America just barely get by while middle class incomes. Go down while our jobs get shipped overseas while our borders stay day open and Washington. DC gets rich and the promises. Don't get build upon that you get these flash TV commercials every couple of years and nothing changes and so the Republicans it all figured out remember it was supposed to be Jeb Bush so he was the ruling class favorite. He was from the right family. He spoke correctly. He had all the right technocratic positions additions he was he was a candidate for the right and the left had it all figured out and it was supposed to be Hillary Clinton no matter what the ruling class would still stay in power because Bush and Clinton and things would basically stay the same. I mean we would still continue to declare war on countries. You shouldn't declare war on we've still borrowed on money. We would still not address illegal immigration when we were still nominate vanilla justices. We would never move the embassy to Jerusalem. Iran would stay in power it was basically one of the same moderate differences on tax policy. Maybe maybe but no big philosophical differences and then everything changed. When a brash billionaire businessman from New York City came down the escalator and broke all the rules he was politically incorrect? And he didn't care and I'm speaking of someone who has a Cruz supporter. Making an honest analysis. What happened someone who by the way it was embedded in the consciousness of our country for over thirty years bestselling author in the eighties and nineties? One of the top television shows ever and even in every other rap song and most Americans said. Hey who's one billionaire. That comes to mind. They wouldn't even say Bill Gates they would say. Donald Trump was in the ethos of America but then he announces any immediately becomes a fill villain in the media because he says things. You're not supposed to say. And he says them unapologetically and he says it in a way that people said well that you're not supposed to talk like that but you know what enough people said up fed up with people talking the way they're supposed to talk because they keep on acting the way that makes my life worse and so what two thousand sixteen was really about was can we challenge orange the ruling class and answer. That question was we didn't know and actually a lot of people probably thought we couldn't and so let's get a straight. He Beats Fifteen Republicans that we're all senators and governors and supposed to be more qualified. He beats the Bush dynasty and then he gets the nomination remember. It was a dropout bowed. He's not going to do it. He's not going to get there. He wins. He Wins New Hampshire goes from there is absolutely incredible and then they said no way landslide and then he the beats the Clinton Dynasty the media dynasty the deep state voter fraud. I mean it's absolutely unbelievable. Here's what happened is is the more people in opposite parties voting for the other party in two thousand sixteen people thought they were Democrats for a long time because what they saw on him as they said my job just got shipped to China. The borders are still open opioids flooding community political correctness. Nisa seeping into my church. My family my community. My kids are often college about how awful this country is. This guy says things. He's not supposed to say go. Blow blow it up because something's not working for us go there and just do what. Just throw up the tables and say you guys time is finished and the founding fathers knew knew that people got anxious very easily they studied revolutions. So that's why we have. Elections elections are pressing pressure release. Valves elections are what we're we're supposed to do so we don't have revolutions in the streets and thank goodness. The founding fathers recognized this so they put it in you know what a lot of people did they said. I'm going to go as a middle middle finger to the system and I'm just going to do it and you'll probably lose. But so what enough people said instead of being belligerent. I'm going to go vote and enough the people that were actually worked. And what's so amazing is twenty sixteen was about a a stress test of the American founders. Can we peacefully. I Changed Direction and change trajectory peacefully. And guess what that promise is no longer a promise in most of the industrialized world. I'll give you an example ninety days before president trump won in a way that was totally historic. Brexit was voted upon in the United Kingdom. People rose up in a surprise fashion and challenge the ruling class discuss what the United Kingdom has still not withdrawn from the the European Union. Everything is the same so it would be like we vote for Donald Trump and on inauguration nation to Hillary Clinton is there. That's basically the equivalent of what happened in the United Kingdom United Kingdom democracy is dead. It's all an aberration it's vapor it doesn't exist. The ruling class does whatever they want in America. It actually still exists that you can go down escalator insane things. They're not supposed to say and fulfill those promises twenty twenty will not be about about that. That experiment has come and done. That's a one in one hundred year type election. Just you understand and all of you that saw it will know the moment when some of you went to bed early and some of you said you thought going to win and all the stories that I've heard are unbelievable and I have. I have plenty of stories to and they're they're quite fun. Twenty twenty two thousand and twenty. We'll be a question of what does it mean to be an American. And what is America. That's it that's it will be a public referendum on the ideas and to this country the likes of which we have never seen before never before have we had so many people within our own country. Three say they hate it. It's never ever happened before so I can totally see where you're going on this reason. Bean this this egg that was laid decades cades ago in school. Yes is now out and walk around and it's called socialism that's correct and I gotTa tell you I used to just get so angry looking at my TV set and I would hear somebody like Bill Riley say. How could this be happening learning? How could this be happening in America and I knew right then and there rally said? How could this be happening that he had not stepped onto a college campus? In a long time. It was obvious that this was coming. And so talk to the talk of the socialist issue and go ahead and wiggle in there. You mentioned it earlier but go ahead and wiggling there because of the arguments so pathetic but people will try to employ boy Jesus into the argument that socialism is a biblical thing. How much time you got so whatever happens on college? Campuses will soon happen in corporate boardrooms in the halls of Congress. College campuses are the leading indicator of the culture. Okay we're all now having this ridiculous conversation about men who think they are women competing in sports against women. Where did that start college campuses? We're having this ridiculous conversation about socialism. Where does it start college? Campuses remedies ridiculous conversations in our country now about bathroom bills and all her college campuses. If you WANNA test out a bad idea go to a college campus. It's a great place nice to test it out. And because you have overly confident people that have never lived in the real world called professors and youth that want to create Utopia and change and try had a changing world and it's this vicious horrible unholy alliance right so so so here. Here's really what's happening. Is We go into two thousand twenty are. We're going to be a country as I mentioned earlier. Are we thankful that we are angry that we live in America Org Generation of victims. Our generation of victor's traditionally our country was one victors. You might have had a tough. Everyone has challenges but pull yourself up by the bootstraps work. Hard and make better choices now. It's you're going to blame other people for your problems right now. It's the billionaires fault now. It's somebody else's fault that you you might not be where you want to be and so this stems from the universities and I do. I do want to give a whole portion of talk getting direct advice to anyone that might be making that a choice soon because I visit more universities probably than almost anyone in politics I do nothing but university visits and talks and a very good understanding of what is and what isn't happening sitting there but I will say and I've said this crisis happening Christianity right now. We're both teaching is permeating and spreading at an alarming Ming rates. That somehow Jesus Christ was a socialist it should be mocked and it should be laughed because it's a work of fiction and I encountered this question so often well Charlie Jesus was a Marxist and I have to stop them and I say can you repeat the question because they say well Charlie. Didn't you know Jesus was a Marxist like no actually I didn't know so. Let's just start with the absurdity of it Marx wrote in the Mid Eighteen fifties these Jesus Christ eighteen eighteen hundred years earlier. So they're now giving their advocating more ideological authority to some misguided worker's Worker's rights revolutionary officer in the mid eighteen hundreds then the savior of the world. Just you understand where that argument stems from. Jesus Christ with something other than the savior of the world is just preposterous to me. Is that something other than the door and everything that we know to be. True second is this. Is that if you look specifically what Jesus Christ commanded needed to us and what he taught us about individual initiative and our involvement. It's so important to realize that. Never once did Jesus Christ say day. Go take everyone else's stuff and redistribute it and stop working and go form a government around these things. It was a gospel that first and foremost it was specified the each individual going out of your comfort zone and helping other people and so the Indivi- until you individually start to help other people and close clothe people need help the poor hold on a second. There was something very specific indifferent to saying that we all have to create a massive government albatross us. That doesn't even do a good job of that first and foremost but then also is going to take from other people through envy and greed. The second thing I'll say is this. Let's look at the parable of the talents. The parable arable talents is one of my favorites to talk about one of the least appreciated just about the gifts that God gives you the one of the doctrines of what Jesus Christ talked about. What is the teaching of multiplication is the teaching that God will give you certain gifts and understanding that God does not want you to be sedentary? He doesn't want you to be stationary canary. And he does not want you to make excuses for not multiplying the gifts that God gave you to advance his kingdom now. Those gifts might be building a business. Those gifts might be pastoring or shepherding or might be counseling to others. Those everyone has those specific gets. But what Jesus hap. And he was so fierce about this that in the parable of the talents the individual that was given a certain amount and hid basically did nothing with it was was given a community of discipline saying that you will be basically condemned if you do not multiply so you must ask the question. What kind of society? What kind of cultural governmental system would allow you as an individual to flourish and to multiply the gifts that God gave you? was that happening. In the Soviet Union where people flushing worship and multiplying and the Soviet Union. They weren't given the freedom or the liberty to do that. Do you think people are flourishing and multiplying four the kingdom mind you in Venezuela of course and and so when we Chris what kind of government structure should we argue for. Well one that allows us to be the most the most the highest and best use for the Kingdom of Jesus Christ that allows us to have the freedom and liberty to accomplish what God has called us to do. And when you are when you are on divergence civil war when you can't feed your citizens when you are built on envy and greed and in a permanent ruling class explained to me how the Gospel will be able to spread in a country where you can't even feed your citizens explain to me how that's good for Christianity isn't and that's why America has been a gift to the Kingdom of God is because more so than anything else when people are able to multiply when people are able to create a free market. Get a Konami and give them that. Freedom and liberty you're able to see individuals gravitate towards the Gospel in record numbers. And that's why when there's a hurricane a flood in an earthquake American can step up. Guess why because we've multiplied we've created wealth therefore we have wealth to give away and that sort of relationship is so important and it's preposterous to believe that Jesus Christ was somehow anything else and anything anything anything more. He was exactly the savior of the world. But this is coming out of churches this. That's right the Charlie. What's alarming is that this is coming out of mainstream of churches in America that's right Today and young people are swallowing that and embracing that. I don't know if it's if it's seminaries that are producing this but it's certainly happening in churches where this guy what you just said is anathema to them. They would have. They would have their arguments and yet it wouldn't be founded picture. That would be the feeling. It's the where's the compassionate and honestly I don't want to diminish people so here's how it's framed if you want to help people the. Why wouldn't you want government to do that? That makes sense right. I mean so a lot of these people come from a good place. Yes I will say a lot of people say Charlie. I want to help people. That's why I want Medicare for all and I want to help people and that's why I want government to do it so let's let's break that argument in two pieces. I'm first of all when seemed that's first of all it's never happened before. We're the government gives me good. Would it also. Let's let's look at any in any general never never because by default the incentive structure of government is to help people. So it's not too close. Close the poor feed the hungry or to look after the vulnerable which we are called the do as Christians and we should do at every moment we can. Instead the incentive structure of government is to push more power to itself and boy. They'd done a good job of that. So let's break that argument to two pieces number one utilitarian argument and number two the moral argument number one. The utilitarian argument government is a horrible job at everything. Let's admit that it's true. They can't they can't run the department of motor vehicles. Everybody knows this and yet we're supposed to let them run our healthcare so these are the people that we want and a lot of them are staffed by wonderful people but the incentive structure in government does not allow those wonderful people people to flourish. You know why because the good employees don't get raises the good employees that might work extra hard. It's not a meritocracy and government. It's who's been there the longest tackle uh-huh and it's impossible to fire the people that might not show up early and work late. So I'm in no ways attacking the individuals that might be working there. That are doing a wonderful job. Number two is is the moral arguments. Let's let's be honest and I say this and people disagree with it but I'll say this loudly and clearly if every single government program was abolished the Church would step up and make sure that every single person in this country was taken care of imagine for a second that if there were calls to action action through our tides and our offerings for each and every one of you and the wealth that we have created rightfully in this in this in this country and we were able to have the equivalent flint back in taxes to say we need to make sure that the individuals that were on public housing housing. They need and they have the food that they require. I know the spirit and the fabric of this country would step up because we always have. And here's the here's the other utilitarian argument of it. When you say government should go do it not not only do they do a poor job of it not only will you all have to have less money less freedom and less liberty but guess what over time it will diminish the role the church and this is why the church is dead in Europe is because people start to say? Well the government's GonNa take care of the poor right that's why charity does not exist in most of the rest of the world. We're the most charitable country in the history of the world. Because still there's a problem we say. Well where's where's the church. Where's the Red Cross? Where's the synagogue? Where's the local community center? I'm I'm GonNa go help that person. We gave away five hundred billion dollars to charity last year as a country. That's that we know if that's declared the IRS. It's probably double then how many of you have probably paid for. Someone's someone's meal that needs Uber. Ride for someone that couldn't afford it or just looking out for a neighbor that stuff's not reported in the IRS numbers that people helping people but what happens happened over time. Is that when institutions of moral stature. Like the church abdicate. That responsibility and give it to the government over time that institutional cease to to exist the church from its original charter from the letters of Paul said you must be active and involved in the community of very things. Jesus Christ said and so. That's where I say welfare-state hold on a second. Let's get our moral institutions to step up and say let's do even more to to help the poor and close the individuals that need it because I'll tell you. Government has a poor job of and we set that example. I think we should say it's a good thing when people get off government assistance and they're able to get back on their feet. That's a good day every day. That's a good thing because first of all the scripture teaches us regarding a man's of man when I say Mantis it's Mr and Mrs Man. I mean when you build something worked for something when you sweat when you get. There is a sense of value all you and participation in the culture the Scripture says if a man doesn't work Amanda Need Amen. Think of that and you talk about. I love what he just said about. The government government the government. Should I believe in paying taxes for first of all I paid all my taxes. I don't like it but I do same pay two times I pay too much. Here's the thing. I don't mind paying taxes when I flush toilets and it actually works. I don't mind paying taxes when the streetlights come on at night the church shouldn't would be involved in flushing toilets or turning on street lights but the church should be involved. How wonderful would it be if the church got up and said we are going to demand that the the local governments give us the homeless? Give us those that the hurting let us know. City limits. No those that can't make their light bill because you need to know that that can happen. It does happen in a small scale but it's a pathetic day. When the United States government has a welfare system with all the Bible liable teaching in America? That's exactly right. There should be no welfare. Send them and church should be the engine that takes care of those within. Its borders it and some people will say Charlie. There's just not enough money. It's not true. The numbers work in a way. Like you wouldn't believe that the amount that we already voluntarily give to charity already with as much as we are taxed first of all I believe one dollar to the church goes far than one hundred dollars to the government. Let's just start with that to start with that argument. The people say we're just not enough. It's not enough. If you present a need to buy brings loving engaged. Church that need will be met. I've seen it countless times. Someone that needs that might need help making car payments someone that might need getting through semester school. Someone that can't afford food that church will to step up and help them but just from a utilitarian need if you look at five hundred billion dollars given to charity if there was that called action with the Christian fabric in our country that would double that would you say to the Christian community got a double our ties in offerings to make sure that the country is fed that would double. That would be just as much as we're spending on the welfare state and guess what do you know what else is so amazing about private philanthropy and charity versus government assistance. There's a relationship there is a name and there's a face and there's accountabilities that instead of just this faceless useless welfare state that exists in DC the money disappears that someone you'll never see most of it goes away forever to senseless nonsense overhead and then eventually it gets back to the individual which by the way never as incentivized to get off of that government assistance when you go to your local church and say hey. I'm really struggling right now. I lost my job up in a tough relationship and my partner is not helping me out. My kids are having these troubles. A loving vibrant engaged Church would say day. Let's get you into a small group. We are going to help you out and we're going to shepherd you along the way and then all of a sudden after a couple of months you start to say hey. Can we help you get a job to can we can we can we. He's like why don't have skill. That's okay Tom's a carpenter Thompkin. Teach you a skill. That's where the church bills in whereas all of a sudden you're teaching. Self Reliance Eh. Then that person can help other people in Pluto. TV is the leading free streaming television service. Watch over one hundred. TV channels and thousands of movies on demand all completely free Pluto. TV never asked for credit card. You don't even need to sign up to watch free. Publicity is the easy and completely legal way to watch your favorite TV shows and hit movies for free. What are you waiting for? Never pay for TV again by downloading Pluto. Today you can download polluted. TB for free and all your favorite devices today including your phone Roku Amazon Fire TV apple apple TV smart TVs anywhere else. You Stream Italian you guys. You may or may not remember but I have to tell the story because it happened when Katrina hit and devastated the south there was there is a man here. That is a major major beef rancher. And he's got his. He's got his beef in places and and we got. We got word at of out out of Louisiana that Fema there's tons of trucks of food from Walmart everybody but FEMA had some permit issues that they couldn't open up the trucks because because they weren't this certain federal clearance given and there are people in line hungry and we got. We got a phone call from a cab of a pickup truck and the governor of Louisiana was driving a pickup truck. Bobby Jindal he's a great guy and we're starving here and people from this church God out there. Well whatever they do to make hamburgers with their cows and this church shipped in trucks cattle that had been slaughtered to feed the people in Visi Anna and it was funny because there's some federal laws that don't allow the the meat that cross state lines and proves my point right. Don't help people stop helping people. That's what we're here for the governor. The governor literally spoke to do the. You'd you and said I will have escorts get visby to my starving people in Louisiana people got fed. In spite of the government's the total strangers were fed cows in this case the most serving cows came from California. They were the happiest but they did the most. But you're right. There's there's this thing now. Look I'm still grieving grieving. America much of America's rejoicing over the two thousand Sixteen Election Charlie. I don't know if you know this or not. But California literally went backwards into the Stone Age. Yes in two thousand sixteen. We win worse. America went forward. We went backward. We only went backward. We went to bed. We went to bed that night with with people we had voted for that. Were twenty five points ahead and woke up the next morning and they were crushed rush. They had lost their election in some areas in Orange County at one hundred and twenty two percent voter turnout. That's Chicago level in California. We were we didn't have a two thousand sixteen and yet. I am unusually early optimistic. I maybe it's out of ignorance but when we see the recall effort that's going on when we when we see churches. I don't know if you heard that two hundred within sixty Saad churches up and down the state. We're getting involved. There's I know people say you're nuts. You're in California it's over you know what I don't. I really believe that good people. I don't care if you're a republican or a Democrat. If you vote right in this next election shen I don't mean right as a pun correct if you vote correctly and we're GONNA help you love this spur. California California could change in one night. If enough people did the right one. I I have some good news about California. There's actually more Republicans in this state eight than any other state in the country. I don't know if you knew the problem is the Democrats outnumber us not because you have the most population but California has a lot of structural extra problems to it despite the fiscal masks and the teacher unions running the state like a pseudo cartel and true absolutely true the the open borders order that unfortunately allow limitless amounts of individuals. Wait so you you give what he said a second ago. Those of you who are in unions you tell me you tell me that your union at Your Work Mark tells you how to vote well but am I being honest do they not influence your vote and then if a church tries to influence your vote all h e double hockey sticks comes down because a church shouldn't be involved in those kinds of things and yet the if it's place if it's fire if it's if it's the teachers you are you are coerced. You are almost score. Aided if if you don't tell them on voting voting this way and vote in such a way God help you at your school if you vote a certain way. Well the truth is you. You're I'm not gonNA tell them how you vote because of fear of retaliation. He used the word cartel they are. It's exactly what it is if you don't have the freedom to vote because you're an association when the Union and they're pressuring you that's just like Guido in what's what's his face out of Chicago well and so I don't use that word lightly and and I say it if you look at the damage that the leaders not not the individual teachers. I'm very pro teacher. At the leaders of the public sector teacher unions have done to this state. It is it is almost unmentionable because what you have right now in particularly black and Hispanic neighborhoods. You have minority youth that are trapped in failing public schools with with teachers that that you're not allowed to pay good teachers more money. You're not allowed to fire bad teachers because it's all unionized. And you had this downward spiral of failing public schools and if you ever dare have a conversation about it or mention it you get excommunicated from it altogether and so with these teacher unions have done is not only. Do they control the state politically but now they control it. Structurally through the through these schools. Where if you look at States Arizona and Florida? That have allowed school choice to happen trust. The parents don't trust the State Trust. The parents don't trust the state where you're allowed to have a parent trigger. Essentially a parent can pull a trigger if their kid is in failing public school by federal guidelines. By pulling the trigger. They say my kids should be allowed to use the tax dollars that I pay to go to a functioning public school now. What happens when you do that? The charter school or parochial school or homeschool. And what happens when you do that. Is you start to create some semblance of a marketplace in schooling education where innovative and accountable principles are rewarded with more students. Were better. Teachers are allowed to be paid. And guess what good teachers should be paid a lot more than they're paid right now and bad. Teachers teachers should be fired. That shouldn't be that controversial other thing. The fact if the California Education Asian system got out of politics and did their job. You wouldn't have this problem and this is the problem. California has got to be number one or number number two highest paid a system if the money goes into the education system maybe most maybe Massachusetts is above us. I'm not sure we're up there okay. Where's it going? Where's the money because you may be? Maybe a California teacher. We're here tonight and you're feeling my goodness I'm working tail off. I'm doing the best I can. I love my kids and it's not happening for me. Let me ask you something. Think every time nine. There's an issue in an election. Someone on your TV is going to say. Our school system needs more money. Will you approve prop Xyz Xyz because we can do more with more money. You already have the most money. What are you doing with it? And that is the thing that you're not supposed supposed to ask you see it and this state and many others and you look at a Catholic school or a parochial school or Christian school. They're able to educate a student for a fraction of the cost of what it takes to get a student through the La Unified School district. And so here's here's the fundamental question when it comes to education in our country which his do we actually want to frame this as a civil rights issue which I think it actually is and if you if you look at it from that prism the current system of public sector teacher unions and what they have done to this state and so many previously prosperous states like Illinois before they are violating these individuals civil rights by not giving them the ability to to read and write at grade level. Because you have unmotivated teachers that unfortunately feel as if they're they are prison to assist. That does not appreciate them and does not reward what they put got into it now. If you look at the one thing you want to Change Education America the one study that always comes back. It's not class size. It's not funding. It's not even zip code. It is the quality and the dedication of the teacher in the classroom. So how do you do it. That will basic market forces. You change the compensation package you say good teachers and guess what I went went to public education in the suburbs Chicago. I had some of the best teachers that changed my life and they got in at six. AM and they left at six PM and guess what they were earning just the same if not unless of teachers that were there for twenty years. That couldn't care less. That should have been fired. No motivation and took every other day sick day and it created a culture mediocrity pretty over time because the teachers feel as if they're unappreciated and they don't care in the final thing you say is is if you do not allow some sort of movement of funds to happen parents that can can reassign a tax dollars that they're putting into a failing public school to go somewhere else. This downward spiral is only going to continue. Imagine imagine right now just just think of the dynamic the politic of this imagine if right now I happen to have whatever's needed in my pocket. What if I tonight had? I'm guessing ten million dollars in my pocket and I look around town and I see that there's some land and we go to the city and we say we want to buy this because we want to be able to school of school instead of them saying wow you know what we know that you guys are all about excellence your kids you know what we know that you guys run school in Africa. Its highest education. Africa thinks kids. We know that you guys know what you're doing. That'd be amazing. We'd never be able to buy the property. Never get that through. And if we got it through can you imagine the stonewalling. That would go on if it was a completely privately. Funded school promising bringing in guest speaker educated. That would definitely got to think of it. Think about it. Think about what. This church has opportunity to do this. Church can bring in senators and congressmen and corporate executives and people people who move this nation areas to teach your kid and you would say let's start at school denied. Here's here's some money. You know what it wouldn't be enough because money wouldn't be the answer. It's an entrenchment that I don't don't know what the answer is. Of course prayer prayer after prayer we need to. We need to vote we need. We need to vote. We need to start voting voting and we have fifteen minutes. You want to do questions okay. Here's some ruled on and I'm not joking. I need everyone's attention. This is an. I'm dead serious if we'RE GONNA do. QNA with a microphone. You have thirty seconds. which was a long time to ask your question if you WanNa preach leaves the building? If if you want to goof off the microphones GonNa go mute okay. This is private property. We can do this. We're not going to waste. Charlie's time we're not going to waste other people's time you have a question if you had a good question. Get behind the MIC over here so I have one shameless plug though so applaud club but one thing is if you guys I have a podcast out. If you guys want to subscribe to my podcast on Apple podcast would really screw up in New York Times if we surged in the charts and beat them tonight. We could do it. We could beat the New York Times tonight. If you guys go tonight. Every smartphone has a podcast APP. Either Google podcasts or apple podcasts. On on your Iowa device type and Charlie Kirk show press subscribe. I'd love to have the New York Times. Wake up tomorrow morning and see Charlie Kirk show them that would give me great joy the sound soundboard. This room could get to be number one if everyone in this room did it forget about it. They'd be writing stories about it. That'd be great. Okay so sorry Dave How do get rid of the Union Teachers Union. Well so that was the shortest question. I really appreciate. Thank thanks to if anyone's in a union right now guess what thanks. The president trump appointing Neal gorsuch and the Janice decision. You can get out of your union. I don't know if you say no. No say that again if you're in a union today if you're in a public sector teacher union and by the way Oughta make a very big distinction. I'm not in the essence of anti private unions. I'm against union leaders public sector unions that exploit and use this on one do influence table enrich themselves. I'm not against workers. I'm not against teachers. Not Against Carpenter. Unions or pipe fitter unions. That is not my position at all whatsoever. Labor has a very very important voice in place and industrialized society. What the problem is is that public sector children sector teacher unions and public sector unions in particular as President Franklin Delano Roosevelt without warned have an unbelievable undue influence in our society because they have no competition? So if you're in a public sector union you are allowed to get out of that union. You are able to save the money and you're legally no longer forced to be a net union so if you haven't gotten out you should do that sometime soon so good. Hi Charlie as someone someone who I work with turning players Sam chapter president as someone who's familiar with your organization and the employees that you have that kind of thing I know that you are open to the LGBT community. My question is just as a person who's a Christian but doesn't run the organization as a Christian Organization. What is your stance on? The community was still being loving to them. Thank thank you so much for the question. I appreciate that so I get this question quite a lot and so I believe in biblical marriage. Let's start with that and I believe exactly as the Bible says it. Ah God created man and woman and become one flesh upon marriage and I believe I was originally raised in. My mom was raised Catholic and she was raised. That marriage is a sacrament. And I believe that it is sacred under God in every every sense of it with that being said and understanding biblical typical marriage in particular number. One I would make the argument that allowing marriage to ever get under the auspices of government was a mistake in the first place. That marriage basically really became something that was just about tax benefits. It's a lot bigger than that. In fact the church should've always just continued to maintain. The authority of marriage is is a union under God. First and foremost involving government. I think was a mistake. I do I do push back to some people at some point though. Were they say and I get this accusation. They you say Charlie. There is no place for gay people in the conservative movement. I get this accusation because we have gay members at turning point. USA We have some gay people on staff. And I've shared stages ages with people like Dave Rubin that are openly openly. Get and I don't I do not believe in. I believe that you could be firm in your principles and clear with what you stand for. While still saying that the conservative movement a political movement should be one about addition and multiplication and not subtraction. And you could send you can have you can have be very firm and what you say. Say the Bible says very clearly biblical marriage. But Jesus Christ you look. At his teaching he communicated and he he basically basically interface that everybody and expressed that love and was long suffering and was compassionate but clear. And so you can be compassionate and clear. So that's that's how I stand on that issue so thank you very much. I'll have this. He has the he has the ability member turning point. USA They is a is a secular organization. Remember this everybody because this is really important about the spirit of these of these these kinds of discussions discussions. He runs a secular organization with Judeo Christian values. We had founding fathers with Judeo Christian Christian values that created a secular nation. Did you know that's what we have. They believed that even though they disagreed with how Oh people might live. They were free to live with all the same exact rights. The our founding fathers wouldn't ascribe to a certain. Listen listen founding. Our founding fathers didn't ascribe to Catholicism. Did you know that read it. But they allowed the Catholics. That lived here to have the same exact constitutional rights at Charlie's not church. He doesn't he's not a pastor of a church. If there's a conservative -servative like Dave Rubin and Dave Rubin is a homosexual this is we're talking the arena of Dave Dave Rubin have the right the vote no one would say oh because there's a homosexual ruben. Camp Vote No. That's more like Iran. It's a great point you you still have to you. Do you believe in Dave Rubens lifestyle. Of course not do I do I pray for Dave Rubin. Yeah absolutely so should you. We live in that kind of. That's American exceptionalism that we live in the nation that allows us to have this freedom to live like this on a sector level and yet have religious freedom atheist even have the freedom here in America to be atheist. I does that make sense. You need to make that difference up so as a conservative in highschool surrounded by a lot of misinformed informed liberal kids. What is your quickest argument? That trump is a successful president and also not a racist. Oh Wow okay. Oh six minutes and forty seven Vincent you can heal the rest of your time to me. I I'm happy to yield to flirt. How does somebody magically become a racist just because they start running for president? That's the first question this guy was in the most public life. You could possibly imagine in every rap song going to fights with Don King and even Al Sharpton Ritchie's having literally being best friends with professional athletes owning football teams. Some of you guys might not know about that with Donald Trump used to own football teams actually sued the NFL. How does somebody that hosts? The apprentice of people of all different races is in religious backgrounds. All of a sudden become someone that is so hateful just because he starts to run for president. The answer is that's preposterous. Anyone would say Asia and it's unfortunately become an easy sheep in an accurate label to throw on him because they disagree with them on policy. See here's the thing. There are real racist in America. They exist when anyone comes across them. They should be repudiated that the the belief in racial superiority is anti-christian. It's anti-biblical and it's anti-american however because we are a decent country we've actually on a really good job of confronting that evil and it's become a minimal of a minority population in our country. The problem is when you call so much racist when it isn't in cheapens real racism. What it does is the word start to mean nothing second thing? Here's how the easiest way you ask. Very honest question is America in a better place today or the day before. Donald Trump got inaugurated January nineteen two thousand seventeen any honest observer of the analytic of the analytics and the facts. The statistics of our country will even say might hate US twitter account. I don't like the style. I don't like but America's in a better place because it is economic numbers lowest ever black poverty already rate separate Hispanic unemployment. Slow slower listen. This is what I wanted. Under under trump under trump uh black unemployment low lowest ever in three hundred years by the way. Let's to be fair by the way under Bronco. Bama it was one of the highest. Go Figure Okay Women Female Employment Hispanic Employment. This is the only thing I wanted to add. Was this shirt what are you. Why don't you go to a trump hotel? You'd have to stay there. You can't afford his walk. Walk in walk in or go look and find out how many people of the trump have working not cleaning rooms but in senior level positions and executive level positions. I challenge you and capstone that there's not one statistic not a singular statistic economically or anything else across the board. Even in a foreign policy landscape. Were not more competitive more advantageous position than we were the a day before he got inaugurated record growth. One hundred forty one stock market records being broken boasts ever black poverty at my favorite statistic. I'll say six million alien people have gone off. Government assistance and are now self sustainable under president favoritism most days most millionaires millionare's created the last three years in American history. Most millionaires more people became millionaires and less three years because of the economy and all. Thanks for the question. I shout out to the Church and the leadership. Thank you for allowing things like this and promoting the second curling. You're doing great work. I need five colleges that I can send my kids to great so I will do another other plug. I don't so I recently started a new initiative and Center at Liberty University Phenomenal School at Liberty University. The call the Falkirk Center for Faith and liberty that is designed so turning point. USA Secular Organization my passion. I'm never gonNA leave it. I'm never going to stop working towards towards it but I realized that there is also very important. Culture war happening about the in the inseparable intersection of American Constitutional Liberty and first freedoms and Natural Rights and the Gospel. Jesus Christ and WHO's fighting for that and the answer is not enough people so we started the Falkirk. Get Jerry Falwell Charlie Kirk Center for Faith and Liberty at Liberty University. You guys are going to be seeing a lot from that center exciting things to come liberties a great school. It's a terrific school Hillsdale College. That terrific school but more importantly Morton and I only got a minute fifty five. The college stick so I'll do it as quickly as I possibly can. Not everyone who graduates high school is to go to college. Let's start with that. Even more importantly I highly recommend most kids that graduate high school take a gap year. We ask our high school seniors. Hey where are you going to school. Not why are you going to school. College should be about career. Preparation not ideological exploration. I'm going to speak some truth parents and I don't mean this offensively say it slow so they get a big deal and I love it. It's it's a hard truth but it's real. It's real far too often. It is parents pushing kids into an expensive school. Then kids wanted to go to that expensive school themselves. I find far too often. And there's exceptions to this where parents are afraid to confront their neighbors or be confronted by their neighbors or their friends or their family and explain that their kid might not be going to four years college or explain that their kid might be going to local community college or might have joined the military or become a plumber which there's nothing wrong with the traits by the way our country needs more HVAC HVAC and carpenters and entrepreneurs. There's nothing we have to stop. Stigmatizing trades in our country as if these individuals individuals are less intelligence or less wise or less likely to succeed and so for parents out there. I encourage you to check the ego at the door and imagine that you can confront that neighbor. Who loves to brag about how little johnny gets perfect test scores and going to Harvard on a full scholarship and imagine looking them straight in the eyes and saying my son is not going to college? And I'm okay with that and he's okay with that if that is if you're just like I can't imagine doing that then. Unfortunately that conversation has become more about you and less about your kid exactly because none of that stuff actually matters none of that. The societal acceptance throw all that away it should be about. Is My child going to college to become more competitive to get a job in the future. Do Not send your child to college to find value values. They won't find them there. They'll lose their value. That's right do not send your child to college to learn about the world. They won't learn about the world and college. Do not send and your child to college to meet connections to meet people that is one of the biggest lies about college instead. Tell you if your kid is passionate about ministry if virk whatever it is go find someone in your local community that is really good at that Particular Bank and have the mentor under that person for a summer and learn everything they possibly can about that particular thing. Two things will happen. They're they're gonNA find out they really love it or really hate it really quick and you might save a bunch of money and they're going to learn so much about the world and then if they do end up going to college make sure for goodness sake. It is done in a financially financially conscious way. Debt is the slavery savory the Free People's dreams crust every single day by student loan debt do not take the slightly people in their forties and fifties still are paying off student. Loan debt. So so. Here's what's happening. We have people that feel like. They're being forced to go to college to go borrow money to study things that don't matter to find jobs that don't exist all because they're afraid of telling their friends they don't want got it. Oh I have to go to college you do not have to go to four year college. Guess what I never went to college. Everybody okay you don't have to go to college and succeed the final thing. I'll say I could go on about this thing endlessly and I don't want to take your time about it but if we if we look at individuals and saying I care much more so about how you act then where you went to school we will live in a better country in fact one more. And that's Ryan. How do we young people like make a difference when we're fighting against this pressure to be like going joined the rat race of going to college getting stuck into low level jobs and stuff like that when there's such a huge epidemic of like a homelessness and things like that that we feel like we can't make a difference because the taxes are so high here in California and if feels like there's so much pressure like weighing on on us there is like making any difference? How do we move towards making a difference in what should we are investor so that we can financially help these people and the Christians regions that we need to be? So let let let me let me give you the answer colleges rigged against you. The tech companies are rigged against you the DC elites are rigged against you cultures hers rigged against you. The taxes are too high too much regulation. Guess what that's not an excuse. Don't play the victim. I'M GONNA talk. I talk a lot about problems. Problems talked about them endlessly. I write a book about problems. Okay first thing you could do. I'm talking about the general. You not not necessarily you beat the best human being you possibly can be. That's the first thing now. What does that mean? That means I'm going to rejects the false promise of the secular left. That unlimited indulgence. An unlimited freedom is going to give me happiness and it's going to give me fulfilment reject that instead Ed do hard stuff regularly that makes a difference that is what will get you fulfillment. So what does that mean words. That are not talked about enough in our society discipline and responsibility discipline and responsibility. That means I'm going to put restraints on my own things that I know I struggle with that might be alcohol. Might be drugs. Might be a sexual sin. Might be whatever that is put guard rails on yourself because indulgence comes at a cost and we don't say that enough to argue. And if you indulge too much you could lose everything and we say that we say a little bit of that and guess what you aren't in the current position right now of where you want to be what I mean by that reject the self-esteem nonsense if you look at a poster and say you're justify find way you are say no I'm not if I was. Why would I be in school by was? Why would I be in church? I and if you come from the Christian doctrine abyss were all broken. We're like shattered pieces. Were horrible sinful. We need redemption really really bad back and so the self esteem nonsense. Let's go to these twelve year old to say you're so perfect. You're wonderful and ridiculous posters and it's like a smiley highly face and it's just a yellow emoji smiley face in it says self-esteem your great something ludicrous. You know what that does is it puts puts a false sense of pressure on someone that looks at it see. Maybe I'm not great. There's actually freedom in accepting that you're broken and saying I'm nothing like I'm nothing. I'm a center. I've made horrible choices. And I only have redemption in one thing and that's the blood of Jesus Christ so for you personally personally. All that stuff's rigged against you. All of these people are GonNa try to be taking your jobs that are from other countries. All that uh-huh we could try to fix that in public policy because there's only three things you need to do to succeed in America and every single person in this room can do these three things because it's around choices number one get married. Sorry before you have kids. That's number one number to get a job any job any job any job and work hard at it. Ethically work hard at it ask questions act ethically basically you will move up in the third thing you have to do to succeed in. America is just graduate high school. You do those three things and you work harder than the person person next to you. Treat people well you act ethically to try to be better today than you were. Yesterday you can achieve things in this country beyond your wildest expectations do not blame sustain problems for your current failure because what ends up happening. I don't want to have the oppression Olympics like the leftist reverence starts to blame other our people for their problems. Well I can't succeed because of racism xenophobia homophobia some of which might be legitimate. You are the master of your own destiny. It starts with making your bed in the morning being the best version of yourself and being a champion of the decisions you made. Thank you very much the the alive you need to know Jesus Christ died on the Cross for those sends that Charlie was talking about. That's what God was doing at the Cross for us. He died in our place. Jesus rose again from the dead. Just as the Bible said he would he said I will turn no one away who will come to to me. He will transform your life. We are all standing here as examples of that. He loves you. He loves you so much that he wants by his power to change you. Maybe you don't know him personally. Maybe you've had religion up to hear but nothing's ever happened on the inside. Jesus died for that sin of yours. Those sins of yours at the cross he rose again from the dead. You believe in him and you trust him. Just like Ryan's question tonight. If you keep focused on that fact that God brought you into this world for a purpose. There's no excuse that can keep you from that purpose if everything be stacked up against. You doesn't the Scripture says greater is he. That's this within you than he. That's in the world. Didn't Paul himself say that neither death nor life nor principalities or powers nor any other created created thing shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus listen. Opposition breeds endurance. It's and strength. It's the American story. The American story is a biblical story. 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Two Persecuted Pastors with Jack Hibbs and Rob McCoy
"Thank you for listening to this podcast wine production. Now, available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcast. Hey everybody. Today, we are joined by Pastor Jack Cubes and Pastor. Rob McCoy two amazing pastors that love our country love the Kingdom of God and are honestly under huge attack right now persecution you can email me freedom at Charlie Kirk. Dot. com, all your questions. Thank you for supporting our program to be advertiser free on the weekend at Charlie Kirk Dot com slash support but just As I am doing this podcast, both these pastors are being threatened with the rest and the entire Church being shutting down because they're saying wide open email, US, freedom, Charlie Kirk dot com, prematurely, Kirk Dot Com buckle up Jacob's Rob McCoy are here. Here we go. Charlie. What you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus won't you know we are lucky to have charlie? Charlie kirks running the white. House folks. I WANNA. Thank jollies an incredible guy, his spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building. One of the most powerful youth organisations ever created turning point. USA? Not Embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Hey, everybody. Welcome to this special episode of the Charlie Kirk. Show this is duo a combo that is legendary. Boy. Pastor, around McCoy pastor. Jack, hibs. To Heroes of mine heroes for our country heroes in. California. I got to know both before all this nonsense in our country started and these two men have their churches totally open. Fighting City government rob you never closed well, we did for. Like a week that's and Pastor Jack you did a small interval. Then you guys both opened and I had to apologize to the church young even doing that I felt bad about two and now you guys remain open and defiant against governor newsom. Yep. And whatever you're. Doing. Survey rock well I I would say especially Jackie prior in the same boat that when we were closed, we didn't know the severity of the covid nineteen at the time we are still processing the date at least for us. As soon as we saw that this was a scam. DEMOC. We opened and the non essential designation by Governor that was it I mean you cannabis essential and you make Bicycle repair shops and liquor stores essential and violator. First. Amendment at that. Yeah. So we're doing our churches blended through the roof. Bigger than ever bigger than tripled yet same fourteen thousand people Sunday San. You probably had a two hundred percent increase, right? Well, yeah. A tenth of history. So you had fourteen, thousand, one, fourteen, hundred. Listen it's the amount of conversions people come comfort people people walking in the front door starting to cry because they said, it was precious. We're home and these are people that some of them have never been here before and they're saying we're home because we sense God one woman said it. So perfectly, she is a nurse or husband is an LAPD and she says she was very emotional and she said I, said, are you okay she goes I'm more than okay. She said because this is the first. First. Taste of normal that we've had in months does my soul and my mind. Good Amen. So yeah, there are pastors that. are remaining closed. And they are committed to it. And they're saying this is dividing the body. What do you have to save Y- Jack them rough I I wanna I wanna cut those guys a big slice of grace by saying this whoever those pastors are. It is possible that they are an elder run church maybe the pastor doesn't have any say that's true. It's possible or there are they are the head pastor and and they are using things like. We can't open up because somebody could get sick. I would say someone is going to get sick if it's cancer it stroke. LISTEN WE'RE NOT GONNA prevent anything in the sense of people getting sick people get sick every day. All of a sudden nobody can get sick and nobody can die. We don't want to. Do Anything to harm people right my argument is this. On the pastor of this church. I know how to love our people more than the governor knows deliver people I want their welfare better than he does. The problem with his argument is there's no science to his argument it's changing by the day. and. Yet, we've been meeting for what ten weeks eleven weeks and it's just continuing to grow and we've had no reports of sickness. We asked people to stay home if they're sick if there's we say if you're sick, don't come right but we've given every Opportunity Charlie you know you walked around the campus for people experienced church bowl kinds of ways I know this I've spoke both churches now multiple times. Thank you. You guys are the few pastors in the country that dared to associate yourself with me. Thank you. Come on. It's true. Thought a pastor. They don't know yet jay run for the hills they don't. Rob You offer radio if people want to sit in the parking lot livestream if they can if they want to be I, think you have a forum where they can be socially distance or they say obviously Jack You have feel that they want to be socially distance outside jumbotron right field. So if they want the normal, they can do the normal if they want to stay at home they if they want to be in the parking lot. So there's almost like a menu of options absolutely same with you right freedom it's called freedom and what I find. So in my own opinion frustrating and repulsive on how some of these pastors have handled this rub is these pastors are treating their congregants like infants no. Yes. While said and saying, we know what's best for you. We're GONNA shut it all down because you don't know how to make informed choices. What's been your experience with Staying Open I think with the the passers at are closed and I'm GonNa take I'm GonNa take the direction jackass because I love hopes all things and I think especially for some of these passers whatever information they're getting that's causing them to make the decision they're making is not correct. when when we've had doctors on our livestream, we've had psychologists on our livestream when we've looked at the data and what's interesting is anything that's contrary to the narrative set by the governor is immediately censored and that you say you know all medical professionals are in agreement will those are the medical professionals at you allow on on on social media and then you censor the ones that have a contract, but you look at the data and this thing has a ninety nine percent survival rate with anyone. Who has contracted it right and go that we know of and it's actually higher. But just because cases are going up hostels, ations and Endesa are going down it this this is not worthy and you don't quarantine the healthy first time in American hidden in American history. So when they tell us that we're not essential, this is an ideological battle and pastors have to awaken that to that I don't think they know that Charlie I really just want to believe that love hopes things they just don't know it. And they need to awaken to it and and they need to step up. Yeah absolutely. True. The. Shirley, night talked earlier just in our conversations of life beforehand and things where it makes people feel comfortable to say politicians say this is essential. This is non essential. You said it in California, you can't have church and you can't sing out loud. You can't pray out loud but you can go down the street and have an abortion but. You can burn buildings in March and be well and I. Think. Here's the broader question. You know we've said churches essential mean is salvation essential. Yes why the church is not either at the church is an essential and it's not non essential. The church is transcendent in can't even put in this category that I I would add jack is not being rebellious and either my we are being obedient. That's right. We are commanded to not forsake fellowship with the saints we are commanded. Oh. But we're Allah Shit but no rub see you. You're a bad guy because you didn't obey Romans Thirteen. You see that's a good one I love that you brought that up. That's why I brought it he. TEED IT UP? Yeah. Okay. Let's look at Romans. Thirteen. Weeks okay that you're to obey all all positions of authority. They're appointed by God full agreement to that I agree absolutely, and that that their ministers of justice execute wrath on those who do to carry the sword. So they've got authority. And I get that. But there there are good and let's not forget this the beauty of America two hundred and forty four years under this atrocity. The Authority in America's down in the first three words of the preamble. We the people worthy. The Authority. They governed by our consent and they're constrained by the seven articles that constitution and when they don't abide by that it is our right and or duty to push back right now rob Jack so I am a being thirteen. Say here were you some pastor? Say we never should have dissolved from King George in the first place? Will then go to England. Seriously go to England but even those passers that are doing that are now standing in order to be philosophically consistent, they should go to Rome because the the people from the northern part of England should never have pushed back against. Roman, aggression here's a win win in an age in which we're in right now. Okay. We all were Bible. Students were studying the Bible we see what's happening in our day. When would be what would be the event that causes a pastor to throw off the yoke of? Of. Political encroachment and say now that's the hill I'm GONNA stand. So if you can't stand for this little bump in the Road Yep. Charlie. Check I was just GonNa say the best point is every pastor should have to answer what is your line then right so I mean, if it's not now than give us a set of circumstances be very specific of what your linemates. I have. One question for pastors who would state something like that. Should Rosa parks have gotten to the back of the bus? Wow. Was was, Reverend Dr, Martin, Luther King Wrong in in in fighting for civil rights. Was the abolition of slavery in pushing I mean we or Corrie ten boom under. Dollars Yeah yeah or then eight then what about Rahab protecting the two spies? Yeah. You can't use it. It just doesn't work that way that's convenience to stay within the realm and I understand that there's it. The body of Christ influences government but we're not dominion. It's not a theocracy goodness. No, and we've Been Delta means a lot of listeners have never heard these. Okay. Three million in prevent. For example, I've been A. You know people make comments that you use the seven mountains of cultural influences and and I pointed out to the folks who said that you'd comment that I said I'm the one who fed him that he he's not a dominion speaking of you Charlie. When when I comment on the seven mountains of cultural influence, I'm using it from a psychological perspective is dominion to a dominion. Est. is this idea that we are ushering in God's kingdom on the earth and there's a lot of people that hold that they. Do. Not, why do we not hold that? You would the reason why we don't and you don't. Have that conversation with the reason why we don't hold to that view is because we're a pluralistic society. An in this nation of a constitutional. Republic. Especially, with relations three, it says at the law is a Guardian Point is to Christ and say that schoolmaster and tell faith comes. In the meantime, we build these we build these laws. He civil laws to protect mankind because it's the laws of nature nature's God but there there isn't this one. Theocracy where we have people have to come to this realization. This choice Yep off listen patriotism is something that I could argue scout in the Scripture Dominion Ism is patriotism on steroids. It's illogical. It's where we're going to make a either a church or or of a nation ripe and ready, and so good that then Jesus can come back when we make it good. When in reality is. Sure was the salt and light of a decaying culture know from scripture. is going to decay but does that mean we quit no because there are events in culture like America like the founding of the United States or for that matter the. The holding back of God's judgement promised against Niniveh. Why didn't God smack down like you said through Jona they repented and so God reserves the right to pull back and he did that with none of forty years later judgment came. What we do is we are taking the word of God looking for Jesus any day but until he comes, we're going to occupy till. He comes says the Bible and Christ brings the Kingdom. We don't create it and then make it where it's a happy world for him to arrive and faith comes from hearing and hearing from the word about. So our primary calling people think that we're all about politics but for Jack and I are primary calling is rightly fight executive said that McCarty. You we always teach the Bible verse by Verse Shepherds After, book this is what Charlie said in the car if we listen if we pastors do not understand. The workings and the politics of the nation that he has placed this end. Then we are ripe to lose the freedoms to preach the gospel a perfect example that black lives matter. They have zeal. Nobody wants racism nobody wants prejudice in their church. We endeavour to keep the spirit, the bond of peace. If anyone is being abused because of the content of the Melanin of their skin and that exists we want that ended the try that's wrong. But but to think that you're somehow contributing to the end of that prejudice and racism by a black tile or sending money into black lives matter zeal without knowledge is foolishness you need to study realize black lives matters of Marxist organization. It's black lives matter. INC recalled L. because we never want to say something negative about a statement that has obsessive. We I'm very I go out of my Way Ever since we said it, their favorability has Gone Down Twenty points finish rob we we believe black lives matter and all black lives matter and isn't matter of fact you take the black American population at thirteen percent divide that in half male and female six and a half percent take it down to childbearing years on the for for black females. That's. Conservatively four percent four percent of the population is responsible for forty percent of the the abortions yet planned parenthood support M. Inc, and be a lemming supports planned parenthood, and it's a Holocaust on the black community. There needs to be outraged and in the passers at are putting up those black tiles thinking that they're saging guilty need to stand in opposition to abortion. Rob I said something to the same effect couple of weeks ago. I went out into the courtyard degree people after service and there was a beeline. Of Black individuals coming to me. Hugging. Me Kissing me no social distancing at all to say to me. Thank you for what you said today about INC because they have pimped listen they have pimped my ethnicity and they are destroying my culture. They're qualified to say that to be honest with you I have zero respect. For, a white guy telling me. About, Bill INC or or. True black lives matter. But they're not talking about the real truth about black lives matter they WanNa talk about INC and they're completely not qualified talk about it, and that's where that's where we pastors. We can have zeal without knowledge. It's foolishness we've got to study to know these things in the scriptures whatever things are true. We saw just about the Gospel. I just preach the word you need to know the culture round you you. You need to understand these things. I could argue rob that just preaching the Gospel is not enough because you need to endorse your people. After you have preached the Gospel. To now go do the Gospel, it's not good to be a student a here. Only I think the Bible has something to say about that I'm Gonna I'm GonNa jump on that one. So I, get this all the time. I. Know You do too. I Hate I don't I don't do politics is I'm all about the Gospel as Oh somehow you and I are you're not and when we say the Gospel, if I were to boil it down and ask them that they would they would quote efficient to your saved by grace your faith it's a gift of God not of works a steady man should boast, and then it goes. If you believe in your heart confessor, their tongue Jesus is Lord you will be saved glory of the father if that's you raise your hand. God. Bless you in hugh professor God. Bless your hand. We do that. We throw the men out amen. Okay. I'm ANSA missing some elements that I would reach, but but I Were there. I'm limited on time. Book. And we recognize that we're centers and we need to be so were saved by grace your faith and we respond to that. Okay. Salvation by grace didn't happen in a Fijian's to his back in Genesis fifteen where Abraham God, who was a credit him as righteousness. So. We've got it in both places. So the question is, why did God gives the law four, hundred, thirty years later that's right because three to five million. Jews one slavery. Liberties not man's idea. It's God's is they cried out to God Senate Deliver Ten Plagues Red seas parted their food provided everyday water the closed on wear out Moses on Mount Sinai gets downloaded more lap five commandments relationship God five commandments relation with each other down entire community is in debauchery. He puts the moral law in the center of the community and for forty years they live without a police force or a standing army. That is why God brought the law and then Paul pointed out. In Galatian it's three and then five we stand faster for the Liberty Forge. Crisis Frey. The Gospel the Lord says not to make converts, but disciples make disciples and disciples change the world but you just Charlie this is your show, right? 'CAUSE I just work A. This is this is rob hit the nail on the head regarding what is Church these days? Just because we lead somebody to Christ, doesn't mean that we're making any headway because number one, we could bring a baby into the world and not feed the baby on starve the baby salvations one step it's the first step to the discipleship process, which is the rest of your life you're saved in an instant, but the rest of your life you walk in and. Let let me tell you what ends up happening. I grew up in suburbs of Chicago. When some of the largest churches on the planet went to a Christian school fourth sixth grade then went to a public school, and so I'm very familiar with cattle. Cull Christianity is what I kind of call it where do the cattle call once every couple of weeks come forward. When it's happening and I've tracked these people throughout the years. Some of them I know that went and did that is that there is a question process that happens in sets in about four to six weeks after the catapult conversion rates commonly do the thing on Easter or Christmas or whenever they do the big deal they all of a sudden startling kate love they get excited. They read the Bible in the morning they told their friends about it. Right they start. Wearing Christian t shirts, and then something happens a friend interaction something less than desirable suffering comes across or inevitably a societal question comes across their radar, which which the one that is probably go to college. What would they go to college or whatever it might is about, but it might not even be a young person be someone their fifties or sixties and they go seek out there pastor and go to the pastor and they say, Hey, look Palatine high school in Chicago. This is a true story. There's a there's a boy who thinks he's a girl and he suing to be able to go into the girls locker room and. I I did the whole Cattle Call I love Christ. Now, am I listen to Kayla and I know all the all the lyrics like all of them you know the goodness of God and everything right? It is it okay. If the boy goes into the girls locker room, 'cause is that Chrysler I want to be loving and forgiving real questions by the way legitimate questions and you know what the Pastor said in my local church. We don't get involved and stuff like that. Let's pray on it and so people but here's an happening. Knows that person that's asked him the questions Okay all right. The nickelback kind of think about me pray about it within months disconnect as they will because all of a sudden the tough things which church in the Bible or supposed to be able to answer. They have no interest in engaging in that. It's the opposite of relations. Three circulations threes at truth with the inverse is also true where it's lost a schoolteacher to Christ but the lack of any sort of. Interpretation of things that make sense in a very chaotic world people disengaged from Christ. So it's also I think can retract you away from Christ, not not ready to believe what you just said is true but rob, we've got Peter telling us that we should be able to give an answer to that. Now maybe wrong about what I'm about to say but don't don't crack me because I believe it. Okay if the Bible says that we ought to be able to progressive. Truth post modernist French garbage exactly. So watch this if the Bible says that we should be able to give an answer to every man who asked us if we believe that this doctrine of predestination is based upon God's foreknowledge. then. God can't learn anything nothing's going to happen without his. Knowledge having said that. I believe from scripture that what you just said is so true. Were the ones that are to give the answers to people. If we don't know the answer, we should find it because God's provided the answer I believe in some. Some way that this is kind of rigged I don't mean I don't mean in the sense of of a negative way, but if somebody calls and ask a question. And I don't know the answer bad on me because the Bible has the answer. Well, especially, every issue of life, the Bible, and especially, it makes especially in in the one piece of life that can. Complete I agree with all that the want these lights can be very turbulent, very uncomfortable, very heated, very emotive. Sometimes pathological is politics and governance. It's understandable because you everyone thinks they're right and everyone thinks that they want to go to the right direction and so the church is disengage because like well, that's too controversial. We'd never made sense to me because I went to somebody's megachurches growing up and they would have fire and brimstone speech about how hells a real place and people are screaming and dying. That's really intense, but you won't talk about. Abortion. Do. They really believe the. unafraid to tell people are GONNA burn forever. But perfectly, one final point on this does that people want clarity in all things in Christ brings forth clarity right? 'cause truth brings clarity truth in your direction truth in your choices and it confused society is one that will not embrace Christ confusion as a tool of Satan it's it's one of his most. Effective tools is confusion gender confusion, societal confusion, cultural confusion. He wrote the book write historical Confusion Right I it but Christ is clarity. Is Christ as truth? Love the the point is that when people don't have clarity on something that affects them materially sociologically psychologically and philosophically, and we are told that's a no go zone. They're like, wait a but I I don't get it. There's all these yard signs in my in my neighbor trying to tell the church doesn't have anything to say about this how you're trying to tell me that no clarity when it comes to when my property tax bill keeps on going up swipe through sacrifice my tie. My daughter has to shower with a man and you're trying to tell me that the church has no claritin didn't pull till Rub McCoy that the pillar in the ground of truth is found where in the church hurt. I. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA use this that we're both Chapel Pastors Catholic Chapel depending on whose history read started nineteen sixty eight chuck breaks away from the Foursquare Church. Nineteen sixty eight California. Reagan's governor. We had the fifth largest GDP on the face of the earth. It's the state of the future. Air Forces setting appear to space programs? I, mean it's unbelievable. You and I were born here. My, my father, my grandfather military it's it's the state. Chuck comes in and Sixty Eight. Now, what happened sixty eight reverend Dr Martin Luther King Junior was shot. Bobby Kennedy was shot. John can be shot and sixty three. We would have the rely massacre following year. We'd have the Kent State shootings we have Marxism infiltrating the nation. There is political turmoil all of the people the young people had put their hopes and dreams on have been assassinated. And the nation's in a meltdown and my father to three towards Vietnam. I. Remember him coming through Lindbergh field getting spit on I remember being at the Washington Monument. It's or thrown stuff at us with all the the hippie movement. And Chuck comes out and sixty eight, and he sees all these disenfranchise young people as a church is imploding people are checking into Western religions and. Trying to find themselves with drugs and everything, and so in the course of this. Chuck figures I'm just going to avoid politics. I'm just going to teach the Bible verse by Verse Chapter by Chapter Book By book faith comes from hearing hearing from the word of God, and his word doesn't return void a good approach that and at that tied, it makes a totally totally get it and none of those none of those hippies would have come in had been political and he gives them a systematic study of the scripture, sixty six books, and by the time he left this earth you talk through the entirety of the Bible. Many many many many many many times. From that simple. Calvary Chapel experiences ten thousand percent growth south of Van is, which is just about where I am south of analyzers three hundred, fifty calvary chapels, cavill sandbox. And there's eighteen hundred plus or minus around the world. We've got the harvest Crusades with Greg Laurie before he decided to leave the calories but still affiliated with somebody loves you. With. Gregoire with. Reese, evangelism, we're pre-trade pre millennial. The House is on fire. We gotta get kids out and and they're coming to Christ in droves. But. Chuck Avoids Politics. And all of us do. I you and I know but we everyone. But here we are what? Fifty, fifty, two years into this movement. And how is how is the ten thousand percent conversion, and that's that's conversion with transfer growth. How is that ten? Thousand Percent Growth affected the state? No longer, the fifth largest GDP where the six, we have the highest gas tax sales tax income tax, corporate tax we lead the nation in poverty homelessness pornography filming capital filming. Capital World. Here's here's the kicker authors of no fault divorce transgender bathroom bills, and the biggest of all, we've aborted more children in the state of California, the entire population of. Where's The power of the Gospel? We don't do politics. No, we don't do politics but died at home but Poe but Aristotle said the highest form of community is politics because it's morality and sociability and got pointed out in the new covenant. How do we get along well in the Bible speaks to everything. Rub You just said, we know it's fundamental at Sunday school stuff. Let Your light. So this little light of mine I'M GONNA. Let it shine oh no, no no, you're not. You're only gonNA shine it on Sunday and you might shine it on mid week service but you don't shut it on. Monday you don't shine at work and that's the problem. Where did Jesus say excuse me don't shine your light over there. No it's everywhere and we have dropped the ball on everywhere shining the light. And then Jesus says in the sermon on the Mount. That you're the salt of the earth. If salt loses, it's flavor it's thrown out trampled underfoot good for nothing. Any Roman soldier hearing the sermon on the Mount, which we the word salary sow Sawyer worth your weight in salt they knew as a currency. If you don't know the currency in each of these areas. You're GONNA be trampled. Underfoot. As a pastor, the currency for us in in the mountain of religion is. Or. The salary of the currency is truth that's right in politics which passers don't understand but I do because I've run four times won three races on baton seven fifty I can make in the major leagues. The currency in politics is one thing. Winning elections. You don't move the needle without winning election, and if you look at me and said, I can't vote for someone three times twice divorced. That's moral potiskum. And I look at you and I say fine but you're irrelevant to me as a politician. Your irrelevant, we're not voting for pastor and chief, but commander and chief well, I can't vote for that immoral man and I say, okay. Then takes Samson out of the hall of. Faith. Or David Yeah I can't well I. Say Samsung can't teach him in Sunday school. I can't find anything really moral about. He's prostitutes, but all night in the spirit Lord comes upon them. That's like mind blowing I. Where's Eva's mouth was find that woman is. Home schooled in in one of only two only one a to unborn children prophesied to deliver people Jesus and GM. Sin. Samson we we start we fail to communicate to. Christians that were were not voting for a president I think that's very deceiving. Way, to, look at it. Instead with President feels very autocratic right? We're we're voting for a government were voting for a movement rewarding for a philosophy, an ideology, an ideology especially more so than ever, it matters far less about the human being that occupies it and much more about the millions of micro decisions that go into either stabilizing or deconstructing an entire civilization. and. So I think this is president trump's pathway to victory is actually articulating. This is that he is nothing more than vessel for People Centered Government at that you might not like my tweets you might not like all this stuff will get over that. Okay. Because I'm a bodyguard for civil society in order for them to get to me, I'm going to guard the door on the bouncer if you. WanNa spit and I'm gonNA say things I shouldn't say but I am the size of a door frame and I can fight and they don't WanNa come after me and I'm going to keep you safe and stable and protect what is righteous and good. I think that's a much better way to communicate it because somebody who I don't like it well I I. I I for one I really really don't like the moral kind of judging game from Christians I, and I talked about this and I think it's the worst extrapolation of kind of the. Parts of calvinism will be honest with you were like I'm elect you're not elected. I'm so much better than you are I. I think the misapplication I'm just gonNA I grew up around those circles did and it drives me it's on. That's the broadcast I noticed come back come back. I. Got it but I'm saying that there's there's a there's a point to how we communicate. Yeah. Well here's the thing too is. So, what ca for the Christian who doesn't engage the culture and vote and get involved? What's IT GONNA take to get them engaged? Is it when their child? Is Messed up by the Strip joint the the pornography store down the street is that what wakes them? What will wake them up? where? They could they put things in compartments I'm not going to get involved in that and I wanna I honestly want to know why do you think that's a good idea. Well. Edges it because you might get dirty they make tainted is Christianity so fragile that it can no longer engage the world around it. Is it so that week? Look maybe for some churches at has been communicated. Yes. In fact it is that week it if you're a pastor. And and you gotTa, do you know book report once a week? And you only thing you have to do is throw the net out that people raise your hand. It that's a lot easier than having to soil yourself by getting involved in the school board and the city council even though the Scripture says, pray for kings and those authority that we would live quiet and peaceable lives in all godliness and reverence, and you ask those pastors and that's a pastoral pistol you ask him can you name your five school board members and five city council members that you pray for by name? And the issues dealing with it, allow your community, your followers. To live quite and peaceful is no godliness and reverence they don't have. They don't know the names. But it, it's too hard to get involved and it's a lot easier just to collect the tithe and have people raise their hand and then feel good that you've been forgive your sins cast as far as ISA's from the West be remembered more, which is precious. But you know. What you were saying, these children are being burdened. But not raised and one an evangelist comes into town and you were talking about. The the Roi of the return on investment and put on an enormous. Program Outreach Evangelistic Program in the stadium. People come forward and follow up after a year a very small percentage of them and I've done this on many occasions in our church I. Say how many of you came to Christ in in in a crusade outreach type of event handful razor hand how many of you came to Christ because someone personally shared with you and walked you through it and the enormity of the room that. Raises. Her hand that's not the dismiss what folks do. That are Vangelis no I I. Well, remember at least this might fan I'm GonNa get in trouble for that Charl- Charlie Rugg in for my family the greatest evangelist has been cancer in my family not again, evangelism were commanded to do it. It's one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit not taking anything away from that. But what we need to realize also as God uses so many different things in the bottom line is that a lot of people come to Christ you talk about those who raise their hands in those you talk to the people I talked do by far have come to Christ because of crises There was some crisis of faith in their life either they didn't have any. Or. They needed some and they came searching. I gotta ask you this because you're fourteen thousand work fourteen hundred, and this is an and it's going to quote on both ends. Crisis. You know WHO's coming to my church now. People who had never darken the church because they're watching their country implode in there in crisis and they have lost their liberty and they wanNA know it source and they WanNa know what to do. That's right. That's evangelism that's absolutely right on and we have answers. Yeah and hope to prove that is that we've needed a bigger net on Sundays because of that truth. Yeah and by the way the people coming forward, I could not engineer this. Wherein a church. If, you could have the perfect world where this. So many of this ethnic group come forward old and young, and this ethnic group old and young, and this old and young and poor and rich cross, the board Ex. Exactly. You could have asked for this and that's exactly what's happening perfect mix white because God moving. It's an awakening cross awakening and the tragedy is some of our passers think if they if they remained silent and they think that they're going to offend someone. and Jesus said I didn't come to bring peace but a sword where to contend against. Against the evil that is enslaving are people it's still true rob. He said those it comes to accepting Christ and then walking on with Christ Jesus said. That there will be mother against daughter. And father against son because of that very reason. Because one wants truth one doesn't. and. So you have that reality but you're exactly correct. We're watching people come there in the midst of a crisis and do believe if pastors would open up. The fishing is fantastic. The the weather is amazing. See Are you nuts? It's in the middle of it. You know it's never been a better time in thirty years of ministry why we're open you know who the greatest evangelists are for liberty that are now darkening the doors of the church. There they would be considered. LEFT OF CENTER There skaters and surfers because their beaches have been closed and their scape barnum and filled with sand, and they're like, wait a minute what once I was able to do this. Now I can't, and that guy's telling me why and I haven't I don't know a single person contract cova or of IT and my entire mind tired joy has been taken. And now they're coming going, what do we do and some of the greatest proponents? For for this movement, contending with the governor are these business owners at started coming to the church in they're saying with these open California rallies that they've asked me to come and speak at they say we will prayer. And they ask you to give an entire opening teaching on what liberty is from the Scriptures and they're hungry. They welcome you I don't even have to ask I. Don't remember when it was. Maybe you do because you're younger and you have a memory. But at some point in time I had asked Charlie Hey, we need to really do something California. We can do this week and shake it up. And I think people like Candice Oh and another sprayers end. He said they'd be of a imagine if we just popped up somewhere. People Are Dying for direction and someone's going to get to them. It's either going to be the agenda of Hollywood or it's going to be steam. Someone's going to get them and we need to get them I. do believe California's redeemable because I'm still breathing what one of the things the church has gotten. So incredibly wrong and I think Mrs stepped. Is I. was told that politics will drive people away from the Church and what I found with our podcast and through turning point, and what we're doing is talk about a moral worldview we have organized thinking we've answers to complex problems than people want to know the source and we're actually bringing people's the glaciers throttle that we talk about and everyone has a different way of coming to Christ but they're actually millions of millions and millions of people out there that. Look at a chaotic world in a broken world. Then you might say something that makes a lot of sense over mentally or philosophically issue. We'll. You seem like you've got your act together. What else do you believe or what does that come from and the churches missing one of the greatest evangelistic opportunities there right now or probably fifteen to twenty million Americans. That would be saved by Christ if the church talked about politics, exactly. So there are fifteen to twenty million souls. That may or may not come to Christ right now in America because the way they were raised and the culture there in just the typical evangelistic music big lights all that doesn't there everyone is made different by got everyone has different interests and like there are people out there I communicate with them they consider themselves to be hyper rational. Right they can. Only I only believe in things that work and the apologetic movement. Lee Strobel has done great work with them. But however, there's also people that are they look a lot more in day to day life. Show me something that works something that I can actually make sense within my own life and when I go to college campus I said, well, there's only two genders. The and some people they'll mind and all that and some people love it. Some people say, wow, I guess you're right I've never heard that so. I know exactly. Where to come up with the? Two genders I never thought I. Am the enemy wants to keep his on the four walls of the church. They don't want us to have an influence in the universities. An instant point where we just allow them to push and witless down and were just here and and were arguing over an ever decreasing piece of the Pie. And God says no get out there. It contend for truth if you were Satan himself in, you looked at the landscape of this world. What threatens you if you're. Satan. Is it politics I think Satan's pretty terrified of politics fall into the wrong hands the good hands. Is it is it media he's got that. The cheer he's not threatened by the Church and the church used to be eight terrorizing force of the Kingdom of help. The church used to cause hell to tremble when it prayed other prayer meetings anymore. What you mentioned the Gospel earlier you got people going in and out of the church they can't even tell you what it is that they believe in. So how can you be saved if you cannot tell me the gospel. I've been a pastor for almost thirty years. And I have stood behind that wooden box and I have preached the the entirety of the Gospels, all sixty, six books in entirety. And when you get to passage, which says, you'll be persecuted reviled bluster you from my namesake, right? I've read that I'm never faced it. Until I stepped into politics. That passage never meant more to me when I stepped into politics and ran for the semi Mike Mike Car Keyed I got death threats windows were broken. They sued me, I was pursued followed. Inundated. With. Obliterating Mail my own party came after me I saw the worst of humanity I was betrayed I mean, it was awful. We went through and the and I've never felt closer to the Lord more prayerful and saw people's lives inspired and moved. then. When I stepped into the into the Public Square. Satan was never concerned about me being behind that wooden box as the walls were closing in on me rob I gotTa tell you the Christians the real Christians I know in Washington DC and in Sacramento? Their stories exactly that story and I gotTA. Tell you. There's there's men women in in DC that I know that I admire them so much because I couldn't take kind of heat they love the Lord and they love this country and they love what's right and they're doing something about it. If it costs them their lives, they die every day and I am blown away by them. I would love to see that more in the American. Western. Church. You know what's killing him though in the reason why we're losing more and more representation in a constitutional republic is because the the lack of proper teaching from the pulpits, how to operate in legislation that you win by increments and the and because they're single issue and they're not broad understanding of how to move the needle the minute one of these conservatives votes in CAPAC- they don't like not understanding all the dynamics of what they're up against the immediately. Them we eat our own and then we people left abandoned and the church doesn't support him. They don't they don't go out and and walk precincts for them. They won't even let them come and let them pray over them in the services. I think it was Walter Martin who said the critic Walter Martin now I'm going way back. That was back with cruise listeners was a corporate. He was the father of the apologetic movement of Modern Day. Wilder. Martin said as I look around I, see the Christian. Church is the only one that shoots its wounded. Yup that's got to change. But. Right. Now, a lot of a lot of pastors hide behind government orders with zeal and a passion that I'd like to see for the Bible all of a sudden you know we've got to obey we've got to obey the president or we've got to obey the governor. We've got to invade the mayor when. I'd I'd love to see that commitment to obey I. Mean. I. I have this question a lot for Christians and obedience to convenience. Yeah, I don't. I don't live Christians have struggled from thirteen dull. So. Let me just give you let. Let me just ask the CEO. Bible believing Christian like Joseph Bartering Anco. Bondarenko Monitoring I was mispronounce. Evangelists in Russia and did he did he was he doing what the Bible told to do he was daily to Soviet law everyday absolutely. Sorry better. Yet let me let's let's pretend that one of his converts which he had many and disciples who was in the Soviet government. They go optima say I need you to go to that village and go shoot ten percent because I time. Go take your gun and go shoot ten percent of the village. If you go do that are you doing what? God wants you to do? So I find. No. Doesn't really I it doesn't confuse me Christians. Scripture sausage for our good. They're therefore are good. So the the decree or suggestions made from the halls of power no more church. So we we must obey the so we're not going to church anymore. So. Even though Jesus said behold I've sit before you an open door. I firmly believe that pastors don't have the authority to close the doors of their church just my conviction I think back at a biblically that sends stand with you when you say all your your defined, the government tell that. To the Church in Vietnam who meets in secret is because they're getting tons cut off so that they don't kill them. They just cut their tongues off so they can't speak but they meet anyway. Tell that to the church that meets underground on North, Korea or Saudi. Arabia or. It's illegal punishable by death. They meet anyway to tell me that you're going to tell them. You're disobeying your government. Some would some Christian said at your disobeying Romans Thirteen Stop Media. Just have a that's the extrapolation of their current argument trying to de-legitimize you. Will I wonder? I wonder about that the. They're welcome to hold that position because they live in a pluralistic society where they have that freedom, you have the right to be wrong they have the. Liberty to be that fool. That for two hundred, forty, four years have been fighting for that and they they get to hold those views. And have the First Amendment to be able to do that. And if you're pacifists people fought so that you could be a pacifist. Really convenient it's true. Yet is what kind of what kind of governments never happened before where the founders are either a Christian or they know about the Christian life and they come to an agreement where it fits the government that they're going to hand you fits for the most ardent believer and the most ardent atheist everybody gets the same rights that's never happened before why they were comfortable in their faith view. Their worldview was good with them to the point where hey, you're an atheist you can have the same rights that we do. We're not threatened by that. What was it wasn't it? When Bob McEwen And you look at four percent of the population. We been here for two hundred, forty, four years we represent four percent of population. But because of the freedom we've been given this form of government designed with a creator in mind. And understanding that that man is an eight sinful and you have to separate the powers because power wants to concentrate and pushes it down to the individual to have that relationship with God complete freedom like they had in the Wilderness Ten ten commandments. Simplest as possible and government was to be limited. And because of that freedom, you have skyscrapers around the world because an American invented the elevator you have buildings in the desert because an American. Invented air conditioning. You have the Internet because an American invented it you can fly there because American invented the. You can go on and on and on because of this freedom. and. Then you say, well, no, you know social socialism is more like Jesus Woah I'm sorry what that's a violation to the ten commandments shall not steal national covid. You're not doing your homework pastor. Dig into this stuff. Go beyond your myopic view and do something in a greater capacity for your people are they. Are, Charlie. Are they that naive or is it that? Likes. have become more important. It's the social pressure of. An, my liked and Jesus. warned us about this. He warned US beware when all men speak well of you. You went through this personally Charlie with which time with the pastor, a member with the pastor that came out against you on social media because. I don't see any names their. Big. Pastor. Came out against me even though he liked me once and decided he didn't like me as soon as he got called out for the fact, he liked me. But off we all watched that happen. That's Okay I. Honestly I'm so at peace with it, he's the one that I think is having to pay a price for being a coward but yeah, look what what is it? Yes I think I think it's a couple of things number one they're poorly staffed. Is the first. Problem. I think that these churches are poorly staffed and they hire these young. Incredibly, naive social media driven Christians that went to either Wheaton Calvin or Taylor, and they do nothing but economics American history or culture, and they were the skinny jeans. No offense to that. We're skinny jeans and on right now I know but they they staff them all throughout their church and like a virus it spreads and as the first problem number two, I think that they. Didn't do it. You an rob did for decades leading up to this moment and at Least Inc American first principles into their you know teaching throughout the last couple of decades to their congregation has been completely unaware of how to interact with any of these. There's a lot to be said for what you just said because for me personally noticing for you is for me I spent. I spent decades in the secular world working for corporations. That vet preparation was fantastic for. Church ministry life yes and I learned early on from Heaven Marine? Corps dead you. Don't work son you don't eat. That's right. Well, my goodness my dad was not a Bible believing man until. Week before he died but that's run out of the Bible if a man does not work neither shall he? Yes. So well, some of these pastors look they they entertain. Of Fairy Dangerous. Version of Thomas more's. Utopia. where? Maybe, we can have heaven on earth. There's nothing biblical about this. We can get really close to hell on earth I mean we really can't. We don't know how close but we can get in that direction. Let's put it that way. Just go to the Soviet. Union. You just abolish villages and people started anything what how inhumane it is if someone starves to death notice that is weeks of crying out in suffering I mean starving to death is a torturous ways you can kill somebody forty, million people died of starvation. Soviet Union in a decade, which is not an uncommon thing in communist China Today we'll know and so you study again the past I. I struggle with this because they should know better they should they don't and they're weakened or cowardly, and I don't give them excuses anymore I don't. They decide they do not want to know. And they are ideologues more than they're actually in the pursuit of truth if you are really defending the ideas of Marxist Leninism after what we have documented this is no longer theory is no longer some fun crash, right? It's no longer is no longer like a coffee shop actress on your complicit it just isn't not now either. Actually. So naive should resign as a pastor that you should absolutely because you are not in a position to guide people at all or you know better and you are doing the, you're carrying the water for the enemy because they're if you look at where Satan wants what ideologists Satan actually want to see grow, she wants to see a belief in no God because that is one of the greatest things you could possibly accomplish each carried more water for Satan than anyone could possibly imagine saying God is dead right and. There's a lot of different ways you can skew pass that but secondly, I think that niche. Satan, what is a huge advocate in in almost the evangelistic position of secular nihilistic humanism absolutely and I mean. So absolutely believe in nothing nothing matters. All that really matters is yourself indulgences The government is just and look at Peo. DOLGIN. That look at people today who indulge in their choice they're pleasure they're they're almost automaton like that's rather almost catatonic. They are unplugged. There is no reality to them. They haven't sweat haven't suffered people look isn't something we need to learn how to suffer. We need to learn how to eat look maybe the economy is GonNa go that way. But the way where the whole thing's going. Here's one of the things you and I are going to talk about in just a moment, which is the what we're supposed to do for maturing people are soon to be maturing people is thought to remove the CO remove the dangerous from the Jungle Tanta removed the jungle at all, and then put them in a safe box, and this is what I'm saying right now. Should he so incredibly self evident that it doesn't need to be said but workplace where needs to be said where someone? Seventeen eighteen you shouldn't try to create an environment that is easier, even more relaxing or more comfortable for them. First of all, that is immoral unrealistic dangerous, and it actually is societally suicidal should do is try to make that person the strongest possible person you can to be able to encounter the suffering endured the suffering be able to have an aim said they can get through those moments and they can almost have her roic journey through. It said, they can understand that the suffering is inevitable. And I'm now stronger person university has the exact opposite. The university actually tries to say you know what? The suffering is not inevitable. It's not what's wrong is the society. So let's try to remove all the different systems of suffering Mrs anti-biblical anti-god antichrist's all right zander. Christian. They. Coddle them they wrap them in bubble, wrap summit on them, and then have them go out when parents do this to. Parents do this too and I talked about the Salat and parents. have way over pandered to their kids they helicopter them, they do them a disservice, and then we wonder why they're twenty years old and they cannot hear an opinion. They don't like without screaming belligerently and so to finish the point you then you now have an entire generation of Christian pastors that have been raised in this entire world where they have been deceptively taught. A. Very careful way I saved us let's just say a false intersection of the Bible and Marxist doctrine. And I know these documents very well I know it drives these people and. There is a part I think it's my first or second Peter About beware of false prophets. News is Second Peter Chapter two and three I can't think of a better. Example of that. If you read the book, the Gift of pain and it was written by Dr Dealt with all the lepers. Missing Book No I have not. So he says that that if you WANNA live in a world where there's no pain. Good Olympic colony the right there on because Hansen's disease takes away all fear on them and they don't they don't die from from. the disease itself would they die of his infection because they don't know when they're stepping on a nail or burning their hand because pain is gone trae and they're they're just rotting and so when we take away this gift from God of pain in a fallen world to show us that we're not doing what we're supposed to be doing. And and we and it's what air still calls the doing good and feeling good feeling good is you look at someone who's struggling with with bondage to heroin and the feeling good thing is to give them more heroin. The do good is to take it away from them. No let's give them needles and now you've got all these walking zombies. That they're feeling no pain but they're going nowhere in life and they're they're they're nodding in the streets and defecating themselves and we call that good government. That's awful. We're responsible for what we're doing to these citizens. And you don't enable them. Amanda. Doesn't doesn't care for his family you have consequences you have responsibility. There is there's a you must work. This is what we're supposed to do on this earth God. made us that way the self worth invite how many kids would be lifted up out of depression if they if they actually worked if they had chores if they sweat and I mean sweat actual sweat working and had to get. A callus. A callous on your hands. Yes. Is a great thing and and so I'm GONNA do not seem to lab at the service here but he wrote in a phenomenal book called Anti Fragile and I never liked the title I still don't I. Think it doesn't do service to help phenomenal the analysis that he puts forward or he frames that most of the world is fragile and the only word he could think of that would be the opposite. Of Fragility would be anti fragile and his argument is that things that are anti fragile survive and they get stronger and they have meaning and responsibility whereas most of society tries to create a hyperextension of fragility and if you're able to actually be anti fragile by the greatest generation was no matter what you throw at me we are going to survive no matter what it is no matter what two World Wars Fine Great Depression bring it on. Korean War. After that one, we're good and so there is an acceptance of the toughness that sets in the dried. There's a mentality of will don't lessen the pressure's on my shoulders. Let's get my shoulder stronger. So I can be able to endure that even better and we have done such an incredible disservice two generations now and I think for Christians as well. It's that what? What? What pastor does embed teaching to church. It's what a parent does. Do a kid when it's like my child would never. Not, my child if the kid comes home and says, you know what? This would happen men arm about you guys. But when I I I didn't WanNa come home and my parents what happened because the I thought from my dad was would you do? You're dead was patriotic. He lay down striped t stars. Also there's a there's a much deeper point. What you're saying though is that you respected your father because there is discipline in order and hierarchy. Eventually. The maturation process that hierarchy actually. Goes on its face where you actually end up becoming the caregiver for your father and that's biblical. However, what's happened now is we now have entire social media movements that tried to instill. Let's say disintegration for an eight-year-old. The father mother hierarchy rebel against you're not just repeat rebels even the right word. It is almost revolution against your credit revolution against your parents who mortem time in their fourteen year olds that say I hate my parents they're a bunch of racists. The social media companies and they're getting emancipated age fifteen and they're leaving their parents and this is getting glamorized all notes getting glamorized. Matthew's Gospel. Jesus. Actually talked about that. So enclosing Rob Jack before we have to go into the next fun thing that we're doing, what can Christians do if they're stuck in a church that is being led by a coward or by a comment by the way, the next thing that we're going to do we could get arrested great isn't it? Amazing? I mean today today. Yeah. I don't really care some I tweeted it out at this point I'm just like. Your questions what should they had actually want arrest US 'cause they they understand the prince they actually understand martyrdom and they know that if they arrested us that would be. Such an unbelievable mistake yet today, the Church has to be led by pastors who are willing to divorce themselves from. A peer pressure from likability to have an actual vision of passion a calling from God that is worthy of their life when you have a pastor who's dead. Then you're going to find a church that's alive. while. I would take it one step further to at I. Love that Jack That's like just made that up. It's A. Doggone. And good preachers barberie preacher steals on taken that. I I would add this that. In these trying times. When when when I watched men like Jack Others that for me? My biggest struggle Charlie and I wanna say this to all the folks in Christendom. To avoid it being about politics completely. Remember this and never forget this. It's people are not the enemy there the opportunity. So when you stand stand in humility that you're doing it for the people that revile you and despise you and you're standing so that they can protest in that freedom and that's why you're doing it be broken in that regard. This isn't a pride issue. And be willing to give everything up for their freedom even though they despise you for what you're doing. Do It anyways 'cause you love Them These are two American heroes. Everybody Pastor Jack Pastor rob their churches are open their flourishing. They're bringing, people to Christ? And like you said, maybe these mid more and more pastors are coming around on not enough. They was more dig into the wrong direction. That's fine. If you go to a bad church. I should say at church south to said, if you go to a church led by someone who is currently being deceived. I've made the opinion that it's okay to withdraw and find a church that someone is being led by someone company got to good southern California options right here when the largest metropolitan areas in the country. So just leave the church, pull your tides, put it to someone that wants to actually fight for what is good in the World Cheryl. Thank show good things with those who instruct you don't you subsidize people that Are Confusing because you're withdrawal from that, actually might bring them to the right directions. Good were all right. Thank you everybody email us freedom at Charlie Kirk Dot com to metallic Kirk Dot com get involve a turning point USA TEEPEE USA DOT com consider supporting our program Charlie Kirk. DOT, com slash support we do twelve to fourteen podcasts a week help pays for our productions even everything. Thanks much everybody, God bless. Thanks so much for listening everybody please help out Jack and Rob. 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Waking Up The Evangelical Voice In America
"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production now available on spotify apple podcasts. Podcast one dot com in anywhere else. You get your podcasts. Hey everybody welcome to this edition of the Charlie Kirk. Show Mega Doctrine for sale. This week make sure you get a copy the Maga- doctrine it is doing quite well. We are trending nicely. We want to get on that New York Times bestseller list so with your help. You guys buy a copy we can get on the New York Times bestseller list and go back in the Charlie Kirk Show. Archives couple episodes previous. You'll hear a pretty awesome conversation with Ben Johnson from turning point USA. So make sure you do that. Maga- doctrine M. A. G. A. Doctrine. Get your copy today. Today we are going to air an exclusive conversation that I had with my dear friend Rob McCoy about Christianity about politics about what Christians should do in the political sphere. If you're an atheist or agnostic I think you'll love this conversation as well. It is something that the people that heard this. Conversations was one of the best one of the most exciting had a lot of energy and a lot of thought provoking questions. So this was that Jack hibs church. Cavalry Chapel Chino Hills. Great friend of mine. Enjoy this episode. Where we give you unfiltered unedited me addressing thousands of people with my friend. Rob McCoy here on the Charlie Kirk. Show BUCKLE UP. Enjoy it here. We Go Charlie. What you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk on the college campus. Won't you know we are lucky to have Charlie Charlie curbs running the White House folks? I WANNA thank Joe. He's an incredible guy his spirit his love of this country. He's done an amazing job Building one of the most powerful youth organisations ever created turning point. Usa. He will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries destroyed lives and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are an amazing mentor to me. Personally and It's incredible to see how you pastors. Have courage in this broken culture and Jack and Rob or two of them and when I visit some of these churches and I confront some of these pastors as lovingly as I can. I say what's it going to take? Is it going to take four thousand abortions a day for you to speak up is it? GonNa Take Drag Queen Story Hour for three year olds for you just to speak up. Is it going to take for them for the church? Totally shut down for you to speak up and I WANNA. Where's the line that's going to be crossed for? Unfortunately there's two ways to organize the thinking of it which is part of the church is basically. They're silent because they don't know how to react and they've been taught that Christianity and the church should be absent of politics which is wrong. It is incorrect. The other part is and there's a faction of this which is they're complicit in it is that they believe in a almost a Christian Marxist worldview and they can flate wrongly the teachings of love and tolerance of Sin and they inflate them in a in a very dangerous way in an example. Would be where you see. You know some of these churches come out and they say without saying any names and some pastors and they say well it's not our position to take a stance on life or abortion and I ask myself what on Earth would you take a stance on if anything then. You are the moral center of a community. And if you can't take it very simple stand of when human life begins. Why should we trust you with anything else? From that point forward at all Charlie our founders gave us the seven articles of the US Constitution. And it's interesting that it begins with the preamble that declares the sovereign in America is and every nation has a sovereign in America. The sovereign is the first three words. Preamble we the people but every sovereign needs a counselor. The president has his Cabinet Right. Kings have their counselors. Our founders understood after they gave us a seven articles of the constitution. That didn't give us any right to protect the rights given to us by God and then they gave us the counselor the First Amendment Freedom of speech freedom of the press freedom of religion the freedom to peaceably assemble for right of redress of grievances against the government and the ideas. The pulpits are supposed to be the counselor to the king. You and if the press is bought in the pulpits are silent. The king is in trouble and I am so grateful. You have a wonderful wonderful counselor. Not only Jesus but yet pastor Jack I meant and what we have to look at the other side leftism if you will for lack of a better term as a religion and they view it as a religion and California is perfect test. Case of what happens when this religion goes unchecked. We don't view it when we have to view this as a sinister force that will deconstruct a culture or a state. I want you to think about this for a second. The left takes the welfare state. They take abortion funding as seriously as a devout Jew. We'll take Yom Kippur if you dare take away. Abortion funding to a leftist. They will protest. They will barks in the streets as if you were GONNA take a religious for religious. Do the whole religious. Judah holiest day of the year out of their capacity do what they view this religiously and so then I. I'M JUST AMAZED INSPIRED BY CHURCHES. Such as this and they're starting to pop but more and more because it's going to be the church which I believe is the sleeping giant in this country. That will be awakened actually fixed. It and I'm amazed at how pastors will get up. And they will give great terrific sermons on salvation and eternal eternal damnation or eternal salvation. And they won't care about if they're offending anyone about their eternity but when it comes to men who think they are women participating in high school sports that's way to political that's something that we can't take a stance on you know. I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago and Palatine. High School was the kind of the poster child for this entire transgender nonesense debate. Where a man who thought he was a woman one and access to the female locker room and it was lawsuits three years of lawsuits and the church was silence now. The church in the local area did not participate in school board races in the mayor election. The state REP races and eventually through lawsuits and the capitulation of the school board. This man who thinks he was a woman is now allowed to go into the female locker room. Now it takes us in the past. Rob Can tell us what a couple of chapters before. God says and he created man and woman. It's not that complicated. It's basically as simple. When did when did the church become the defenders of science and two genders? There's GonNa Laugh at that. Thank you and there are only two. Genders biologically realistically spiritually and theologically. It takes if you believe there are more than two genders. You must have a doctorate degree from a California University. So you must be taught that it's not self self cheery and but what? What is the goal of the modern left and I hope this can make sense for everyone here? The boil it down as simple as this. There's one side that wants to create chaos and one side that wants to bring order from the chaos everything the left does seats to create more chaos open borders create chaos by definition creating racial tension creates chaos having people confused about their gender from a young age creates chaos. And what's happening more times than not? And here's the good news. I can delivered all you visit. These campuses is when young people have lived in a decade of chaos from age eighteen of not being sure what gender they're supposed to pick not sure if there's a god at all whatsoever all of a sudden. There's a need for awakening and revival. Burt and a rebirth. And you've seen some really good signs and indications of this and guess what we have these answers because our book the Holy Word of God is the same as today as it was two thousand years ago and we have the. It'll be two thousand years from today. It'll be exactly the same is that I. There was the word the word tells us. How many genders there are how to interact with our government. How we interact in marriage how we should interact civilly and yet immigration immigration borders rule of law sovereignty. If you ask a leftist what is your reference point every single one of them will give you a different answer well they might say it's the communist manifesto they might say it's the Rachel maddow show. They might say they might say it's NPR they might say it's the La Times where if you if you think about it if they do not have a central reference point like the word. That's why they're so confused and confused. People try to create more confusion and more chaos and so we as Christians have to look at a secular world that more than any other time I think in the history of this country is breaking under the Senate Pornography Addiction of drugs and the broken of divorce and people that are just waiting for the order that the Bible and the word can give. Is that each one of you can offer not just eternal life to individuals that are suffering and confused but you can give them very specific rules for their life that will say here's some order to the chaos that you might be believing look around you right now. I'm sure you see what I see. 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He etc and in the midst of the cacophony of noise. Jesus says who do men say that I am and they some say you're John the Baptist others sale. But who do you say that I am? Peter says you're the crisis son of the Living God and Jesus says blessed are you Simon Bar Jonah for flesh and blood has not revealed this devote my father in heaven and upon this rock. I build my no. No no no king. James said Church Tindale and the Geneva Bible in the original translators of the Maverick Tech said it assembly. You See Jesus. Co opted a secular term. He didn't say synagogue or temple. Which would have been a religious term is a word. Echinacea which is a governmental term which means an assembly and you are an assembly of believers the temple of the Holy Spirit infused in the culture to cause it to rise to the glory of God. Now you gathering this larger assembly to be fed but you go back out and you're that moral preservative you're the salt of the earth and so what Charlie's touching on? God bless you man. You're like no up well and so I go to college campuses to students that refused to believe in God refuse to believe in a higher power and I last spoke to you guys here and what a warm welcome you guys gave me and thank you for that. This is a church unlike any other. Except Maybe Rob's church which is pretty extraordinary seriously. I have the gift preaching church down to a size Jack It's extraordinary extraordinary. This church is unlike any other an because it's the courage of the leadership and it's the conviction of the leader and it's something that could be duplicated and blueprint for the rest of the country. But I spoke at Brown University and mid December and I spoke with you before that and we live to tell it I lived the Taliban and if you want your child to hate America send them the Brown University. That's all I have to say if you want to turn them into anti-american godless atheist unhappy radical. Send them to Brown University. Brown University is in Rhode. Island is Providence Rhode Island. It's one of the ruling class universities. Basically if you get into the school just by saying you went to Brown University. You've been admitted to a country club of sorts. That you'll get jobs you don't deserve to get just because you went to Brown. There's only about ten schools like that in the country. California is home to one of them. It's in Palo Alto that you figure out which one it is but basically there's nothing against the institution at against the people that go there but you exactly the type of school that I'm describing that as soon as you get through that door. They protect their own. So I spoke there and I was met with protests and opposition anger and vigour. But the thing that got them the most upset the thing that got the most mockery the most repulsion thing that made them out of their chair. The thing that made them almost visibly physically irate when I said our rights come from God not from government. That is what drove nuts. It wasn't when I said that president trump is doing a great job. It wasn't that I said we need to build a wall. It wasn't that I said we need to enforce immigration laws that we need to end abortion time that they're only two genders all. That stuff is true and I said all those things that was just the first thirty seconds it was instead instead. It's what I said where our rights come from because when I say where our rights come from which John Locke recognized which are founders. Were inspired by our entire framework of government is designed around all of a sudden admitting to the brown hyper entitled Leftists. Marxists your not the most important person in the world. You're you actually don't matter as much as he madder and what he did for you and that admittance was met with and I kid you not visible repulsion now. Why what's because they might not be able to continue to live the way that they think they should live. They might have to drop the lifestyle that they've been following that they might have to behave differently that they might have to drop the Hubris or be more open minded or be more humble or other things that were called to be in the word and it struck me right then and there that this is really what it comes down to all of this matters the fight for life fight for basic biological standards the fight for school choice the fight for taxes the fight for sovereignty to fight for borders. However if we don't recognize this is a spiritual war first and foremost that they are fighting for the abolition of a belief in the divine. Then we're just arguing knows when there's a much bigger picture at play here because as soon as you get a college leftist especially to admit that there is God ubiquitous omniscient God that has power over them. That has granted the rights to all of a sudden. Maybe government doesn't matter as much. All the sudden net clump of cells. That they think is in that they call a fetus. Actually might be life if you admit there's a god all of a sudden right and wrong or not an opinion anymore right and wrong are true that is written in the word because if you believe there's No God right and wrong is just a matter of opinion. It's just well. This is what I think is right and this is what it's called moral relativism. And what is that got in the world sixty million abortion since ROE versus Wade where we have an epidemic of pornography in our country that the whole culture is acting as if it doesn't exist right now in America and you see this happen until we recognized where the rights come from from a divine than that is the discussion. That really needs to begin to happen. And what was so telling me though it might when I closed my time at Brown and my conversation was of course the opposition the antagonism but once you stood firm and you did not care about the arrows. The names the protesting and the screaming. Finally they begin to crack. Yes after forty minutes of protesting in an hour of protesting. Something happens. That does not usually happen in the mind in Ivy League Marxist leftist. They began to think there's a difference between following and thinking and God gave us a heart but he also gave us a mind analytically and rationally. And if you rationally look at leftism you'll come to the same conclusion that it is a force of cultural chaos and destruction that will destroy everything that comes in contact with chaos order. Remember that dichotomy everything they stand for is about creating more chaos that why else today. What chaos when you create chaos degrade excuse for two Talibanism when you create chaos. It's a wonderful license again. Make exactly it's a wonderful license to create a King a dictator ruler. Robert Explicit was going to say that the GALLEON dialectic. But we don't have time for that Charlie when you go on these campuses and I imagine one of the struggles with young people and I think it's difficult for the Church to reach young folks and especially the conservative message because their concept of freedom is different than really what the Scripture says freedom is. This is such an important point now. I let me just preface it by saying in the stairwell the law school at at harbor and they've been doing this since one thousand nine eleven they say the laws of the wiser streets that make men free supply restraints towards evil in order to pursue excellence but the younger people especially the schools that are indoctrinating them dictate freedom in separate way. Why don't you touch on? This is a conflation of terms so young people believe freedom or they look at freedom as I can drink whatever I wanNA drink. Whenever on a drink I can put whatever I WANNA put my body. I do it I will want sexually at any time and I can use it every word. I WANNA use whatever website. I WANNA use like a stamp as late as I want to stay up. That is bondage. You will not be a productive happy or fulfilled person if you do that for one day one year or one decade or a lifetime now the lie that we teach teach young people we allow this the pass by and we allow this to pass by without countering is not only we have to say what is easy is not necessarily good for you but what is good for you is sometimes difficult. Well I find when I find his. Eighteen and nineteen twenty year olds is younger and younger and those that have high school kids are going to nod in agreement. Is that the sin. That was impermissible for me as a high schoolers all of a sudden widespread for a twelve and thirteen and fourteen year old. I'm talking about drugs. That are more lethal than ever. I'm talking about access to mobile technology that we and I only went to high school. Eight years ago. I'm talking about websites that would have been forbidden from any sort of person to visit all of a sudden. You're seeing young people dive into more dangerous. Dangerous Pervasive Senate. A younger younger age by the time they're eighteen and nineteen. You have a miserable generation. This is why suicide rates have gone up so alarmingly. It's really interesting when you look at the epidemic of suicide in America because suicide is a unique first world problem if you look at the poorest countries in the world. They're suicide rates are much lower than our country. It would be the exact opposite. You would think right they. They sometimes have access to medicine. Food Clean Drinking Water yet. They're suicide rates are so much lower and they keep why is that? What's because the reason that people choose that unthinkable choice? Sometimes it's because they think freedom is the freedom to continue to indulge it. Whatever they want to indulge however they want somehow at the end of the tunnel if I just take one more hit and I just visit this website one more time if I stay up to five. Am One more time that will bring me happiness. But with the Bible tells us and Jesus said this so clearly it's freedom from that sin. It's freedom from addiction and that will bring you actual liberty liberation from that bondage. And that's the message. That young people are waiting for every single day. You went to school eight years ago. I went to school thirty eight years ago. How are you guys suffering under the cartel the colleges have you guys been sold a narrative of lies from higher education? 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But I didn't say well. That's the moral thing to do. But where's your character and we'll see what do you mean? Why didn't you tell the other children to stop it? Now when the body of Christ starts getting character and what I was touched by the back room talking with Charlie's is he's I think you're the most visited citizen to the White House in the United States. He wouldn't say that but it's true. The President looks at his tweet every morning. Which is kind of exciting. I wish he tweeted about me. That'd be really tweet tweet. But when we were back there the thing that Charlie and I hear continually is this caustic approach to the president and they don't like the way that he has mannerisms in the rudeness and the things of that sort but you touched on his kids and the fact that he enforced the moral law raising them. You can't Yay yet. Fake good kids and I've had the amazing opportunity contrast it with some of the Christian families you've run into. That was profound and I'm going to say it as as lovingly as I can. We love to offend anyone. Stand up because I'm old dirt. I got A. I've got I've gotten to know. Don Jr. Vodka Eric Tiffany and Baron. A Little Bit. But the other four quite well. You can't fake good kids. That's what I've learned from my travels and from numerous experiences Since starting turning-point USA dealing with students in dealing with kids. The president had a couple of rules for his kids from very young age. First and foremost if you need to reach me. It's one ring. I'll always pick up the phone immediately accessible and every single kid every vodka jared vodka eric and done to a tee. We'll tell you they needed to reach their father. It's one ring straight in these in the most important meeting developing the most important building in the world direct accessibility and he had three very big rules for his kids. No drugs no alcohol no cigarettes three rules and he imposed it from a very from a very very young age and he was intentional with raising three. I think outstanding citizens of the world that have been so unfairly treated by our media by the way and you look you juxtapose these three outstanding citizens with other people that serve under just end with that. That's all I have to say with that don't however I would. I is zero tolerance policy that the president always had for those three things in particular and he would repeat it. No drugs no cigarettes no alcohol and I think you know people say. Let's say Will Charlie? I don't like the president's tweets. I don't like his candor. And his tone and rob has a very very good response to this and I'm a little bit fatigued answering this question but I ask myself the question I say so George W Bush probably was more of your your tone. Yeah I liked him. He was always smooth. How many times did he speak at the march for life never none? He was married to a pro abortion activist who appointed better justices George W Bush trump not even close. We have John Roberts underbush whose questionable at best we have gorsuch and Cavanaugh. One hundred eighty seven circuit court judges who cut funding to planned parenthood trump. Who Expanded George W Bush who actually took on the Iranian threat and killed casino solid Qassam Soleimani President Trump? So move the embassy move. The embassy to Jerusalem recognized the Golan Heights cut the funding and the Palestinian Authority who has signed executive orders for Religious Liberty. And has his vice president pray over him almost daily a very godly man. Mike Pence who? I've had the opportunity to spend time with and so I get a little fatigued than answering this question. But here's the analogy. I always use. America was drowning under bipartisan ruling. Class rule so if you WANNA to know how America's divided it's not right versus left it's ruling class versus working class okay. The ruling class is both parties. You don't have to explain that we're from California. Okay Yeah but we were drowning in the middle of the ocean under the ruling class and finally there is a light that came in the distance of the helicopter that was going to rescue us from the middle of the ocean and we get rescued in the person. Finally we can breathe again and we look up and the first thing we asked to. The person who rescued us is all I remember you. I don't like your tweets very much. You're breathing you're living. You're able to advance. You've been resuscitated and revitalized. And you look at the person that might say something that you might not find favorable and someone and you say well. Yeah thanks for that whole life saving thing. Thanks for that you know. I'm able to continue my life but your tweets don't really checkout with me and I say to myself is smooth politician who lies to your face and continues the destruction of the family and the country. Something that you ve vastly prefer or someone that biblically mightn't body Sampson and rob will be able to articulate this very very well who was called by God in an unusual time for a very specific purpose and mission to save a gift and a blessing from God. That is someone that I want. I'm supposed to give him segues to talk and he gave me one. That's really sweet. The Lord gave me this picture because we travel. The country spoke over twenty thousand passengers across the country. Trying to awaken them to move the sixty to eighty million evangelical Christians. Half of them aren't registered to vote of the half the registered to vote only half of those voting a presidential election twelve percents non-presidential. It's apathy and push back. I can't vote for management three times married and twice divorced. Say Look Fine. And he's cost on his twitter and I hear it all the time. It's moral tim and I say that's fine but just make sure you take Sampson out of the hall of Faith and they said what do you mean I said name? One moral thing about Samson's life. He was in a prostitutes bed all night and the spirit of Lord came upon him. I can't teach that in Sunday school. Not once but twice he went to pay off a gambling debt and the spirit of the Lord came upon Him and his downfall was women in his iconic care. I'm not going further with that. But my point is this. Why is he in the hall of Faith in Hebrews Eleven? Why would God pick a guy like that judges? Fourteen four would Samson's parents didn't realize MINOA and his wife and by the way Samson and Jesus are the only two babies in the womb prophesied by God before they were born to lead. God's people and Samson was raised with the Nasdaq vowed. He was home schooled. Wait you're not gonNA like the second part of this. He went off the rails because the very first words recorded out of his mouth. Were that Philistine woman. I WANNA go getter so watch the home schooling. My point is this. My point is this. Why would God choose? Judges Fourteen. Four Samson's parents didn't realize as God was seeking occasion to move against the Philistines Samson was willing to do with God's people weren't confront the evil in their culture now there are seven mounds of cultural influence arts entertainment media business politics religion education and family and of those seven mounds of cultural influences currency in each one of them in politics it's winning elections in Media Arts entertainment selling movie tickets etc. So let's look at moving the culture and let's look at the current president arts entertainment. He had the number one television show in America media. Just he's mastered the the twitter world politics. He took out seventeen Republican candidates in the most heavily funded Democrat candidate in the history of the nation. Business trump brand is over. Now we can just go through the whole thing. This is a man is equipped. And if you don't like him fine but you know. I got picked him because there were no Christians available. Some of the candidates running were Christians. But were they equipped in every mountain of cultural influence. So there are times where it unless the body of Christ steps up and starts doing his job and encouraging people to engage in the Public Square and the work that Charlie's doing political and the byproduct spiritual. This is. Why I wanted him to come Jack. Invite me to speak. You don't need to hear from me and I'm GonNa shut up in a minute. I wanted him to speak. Because this is critical. We need to infuse this next generation. With moral knowledge they'll come to faith but the law will point them their support this man Charlie. You've got a podcast. The Charlie Kirk show yes. I've subscribed to it already. If you haven't the last time we were here you guys took the show to number three because you signed up on it but it's true how to do it. I will and then we do. WanNa get some questions. We're not done yet. We're not done yet. We just I want to thank you guys for the blessing you guys gave me last time. I mentioned it so basically podcast comes out three to four times a week interview. Everyone from the vice president to Ben Shapiro to Senator Rand. Paul the Senator Ted Cruz. Some great content on there if I may say so myself but I plug it. I asked you guys to look it up on your phone on the PODCAST APP and we beat the New York Times for like five days straight justice room so those those that help you guys can make sure your subscribe your help. Your friend subscribe but if you guys would do that today. It's a huge blessing to each one of your phones can do it. And it's free of charge so thank you for one more thing. 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You gotta look. I put my jacket on guys. So you guys. Here's the rules to the questions You're going to ask your question. You're not going to make a statement. Put a caboose on the end of that train. Okay and if you'RE GONNA make a statement than the guys in the sound booth are going to cut you off ask a question and let it be answered okay. Second thing is this is a church gathering. This is a five. Oh One C. Three religious assembly. And if somebody's here to disrupt religious gathering you should know that it's a federal offense and their federal and state officers and local officers here. Love all of you. We love all of you but the rule of law is the will of God and if you get arrested look. We made a big mistake. One time we had a Heckler who started over here in the section started screaming a lock bar and security took them out sideways then then the police asked me if I wanted to press charges and I gave him the Gospel and we didn't press charges which turned out to be a huge mistake. Nine months later he was arrested in a terrorist scheme. So we take this very seriously so we'll visit you in prison. We'll send you packages me nervous. I'M GONNA go all right so who has asked the first question. You want to get a microphone. Jody of the Mike. He's all set donahue. Go get him. That's a joke for the older people. You might want to get a microphone. That works Democrats always go after the Republicans so for instance they get Republicans. Thrown out of office. The Bible's quid pro curl the actually admitted to a but nothing happens to them but Republicans they lose their seats or get thrown in jail. Look I mean I talk about this quite often. There's we don't have the justice system in our country right now unfortunately and hopefully attorney general bill barking at this sorted out what's happening. Roger Stone is one of the great injustices that I've seen in in recent memory where you have any McCabe James Komi John Brennan and all these others that have had any McCabe in particular that has had criminal referrals totally dismissed and Roger Stone. That's facing anywhere between seven to ten years in prison. It just feels as if and it just not a feeling. Analytically that if you're against this president right now you're going to be held at an absolutely unfair level of justice and they're gonNA throw you in prison and throw the keys away but if you're in the opposition you could basically do whatever you want. We have senators violating the Logan Act illegally meeting with Iranians overseas and there will be no criminal charges being held there whatsoever. Illegal spying against our president from the FIS abuse. Look if you see actually picture of Lady Justice Lady Justice is supposed to be blind. That's supposed to be blind to class two income any sort of prejudice. It doesn't matter what political party you are. Unfortunately we're living through a time. A very very partial justice not impartial justice. And that's where the ruling class working class divide really comes in. Because what they want to do. Is they want to create show trials which is a Soviet tactic of trying to create an example of anyone that dares side with the insurgent Donald Trump that. Hey if you if you side with them we're gonNA take your life away in your family away and we little doubt all of a sudden might make people back away. I think it's having the opposite effect. I actually think that it's making people grow more fervent in their support of the president be more convicted than ever before to contribute to knock on doors and to go vote for the president. I think it's having the exact opposite effect. Your observation is exactly right. You're going to make the answer shorter. Because there's a lot of people can just quick question about. I've had a lot of college students founder. Colleagues say Jesus Socialist but. I'm just scriptural references that you would say just back against that but thank you for the question. I I get that quite a lot and I get the question Charlie. Didn't you know Jesus was a socialist? Well first of all the fact that Jesus might have been something of an ideology that was developed. Eighteen hundred years after he lived is an insult to him being king of the world and Savior of the world and part of the Trinity as God. In himself he was nothing more. Nothing less than God divine in the Savior of the world and say Oh he was a Marxist so let me get this straight so Jesus was something that was a working class failed ideology that was developed the mid eighteen hundreds nonsense. But they're really trying to say what they're what they're trying to say but they won't say oh. Jesus was a collectivist that Jesus would hate the system of private property ownership and he would hate the system of markets and of capitalism. I point to you to a very important parable and a very important recurring theme of Jesus testimony which is the theme of multiplication specifically the parable of the talents. The parable of the talents. As all of you know was a parable of a owner if you will distributing a certain amount of talents which was which was a year of a currency to each of the individuals that worked for him and the individual that produce the most from the original deposit if you will or the ritual investment was most pleased in the eyes of the owner and the individual that produced marginally but somewhat was somewhat police. But the person who did nothing with the gifts that they were given was basically said they would be put into eternal damnation. It was one of Jesus's most harsh repudiations of action in the entire four gospels and to cut a summit altogether that you have to ask yourself the question. What system allows the people in the body of Christ to multiply most effectively for the kingdom are people were people multiplying in the Soviet Union or people multiplying right now for the kingdom Venezuela where they can't even eat in order for multiplication to happen? You must have individual freedom and individual liberty in order for people to multiply. You must have a system that allows multiplication to occur. Bob McEwen gave a message here. Where he covered that Congressman McEwen and one of the things he often says he says that that for wealth to be created to parties have to benefit. So if you're a farmer and I'm a baker. I'm going to buy grain from you at a price at the market will bear with the Prophet. You make you buy more fields. Hire more workers with the grain. I Buy Bake bread and when I sell it with the Prophet and make I buy more ovens hire more workers and it creates wealth for well to be created to parties have to benefit now in socialism. We in this is why young people are drawn to it because they see the disparity between the rich and the poor and they think that this is a system that works even though it's failed in forty countries over the span of six thousand years even though it's a late comer it's already had massive failure but I tell young people I say. Listen you're getting an A. in class because you do your homework and your smart as a whip and you get up early and you go to bed late and you do what's necessary. You don't do Squat. You are lazy and shiftless and you are your pathetic. Quite often illustrative speaking. Hey Hey it's okay you're you're getting an A. And you're getting enough and so we're GONNA make equality we're gonNA take two grades from her and give them to you so you both have a see what happens in next time grades come out. You're not gonNA work hard. What's the point and you're going to be waiting for your handout. So production going to decrease so you take the fourth greatest economy in the Western Hemisphere Venezuela. And you give it socialism and now. They're eating their zoo animals. It destroys a country. You can vote yourself into socialism. But you're going to have to shoot your way out and of story and sorry. No go ahead. No Jack Jump in one. Final point is that Jesus called US individually to be extraordinarily compassionate and long suffering and loving individually. However he never not once made the argument for coercive collectivized government to do that for you to abdicate. That authority to say that the state or the bureaucrat should do that never never instead. Socialism gives people an excuse not to be generous. Socialism gives you an excuse not to give to charities. Socialism gives you an excuse not to show up at the soup kitchen to not show up at the homeless shelter to not show up at the pro-life clinic or the pregnancy crisis center. All of a sudden socialism is oh someone else's taken care of that. Yeah that's fine socialism. Create selfish self centered and secular people and capitalism is altruistic. We see an increase in giving with Kevin Jackson. Tell you something of that Charlie. Just with his words. I saw the pictures. I've seen this in real life. Does anybody remember what the acronym? Ussr means wet. It's so it's socialist. I've been to Russia. Sixteen seventeen times collectively. I probably lived there for if you put all those visits together. Probably half a year with every visit with every. Stay with every bit of work that I did there. You see not some but an entire population of individuals that are lifeless. The government has sucked hope. There is no. It has sucked. Hope out of them. There's no compassion towards someone else. Not because Russians don't have hearts is that they didn't have any capacity to help the person that was earning everybody was exactly the same. They were exactly the same clothes and they lived exactly the same flats and they functioned exactly the same way I lived it. I saw it and you need to know that young people today don't have a clue of what that does to a human soul. That's why God was banned in Russia. That's why on in Red Square in Moscow. I had a Babushka eighty years old. Grandma come up and grabbed me by the face speaking in. Russian crying and kissing me because I was preaching the Gospel and she said I was ten years old when the communists came into our home and took our bibles took our cross and told us that God did not exist and she said I. I was praying for seventy years to hear the Gospel again. That kind of stuff happens in socialistic. Worlds do you think. Hugo Chavez was going to allow God to be preached in Venezuela when he was alive they can't tolerate it. China cannot have it because God to them as competition. God gives meaning God gives purpose and bottom line. Second Final Point is this the scriptures demand that every one of us will stand and give an account and the day of judgement for what we did with our lives. If Socialism's trill than God's false God is true and socialism's wrong because socialism gives you. Somebody said it the excuse to not get involved in doing anything. It's godless it doesn't work and kids are being sold a bill goods frankly by overpaid EGO centric professors. That live in the wrong country now. They've been educated beyond their diligence. And it's tragic with home security. There's two ways you can go about protecting your home. There's the traditional way we have to wait weeks for a technician to a messy installation. That could cost you a small fortune. 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I was wondering what your thoughts were on this. So seeing how our country like the origins and how God is inscribed even in stone like all over the country and just seeing how far away we've drifted from where we started. I started kind of analyzing trying to figure out when that happened. And my only thoughts were when the family started kind of falling apart and seeing mothers kind of going off to work and seeing children. Kinda fathers then leaving the homes fatherless homes and so I'm trying to figure out wanted to see what your thoughts on this what your thoughts were on the family and the impact that and how important that is in order for the change that we're hoping for to come sort even I'll start. I mean look. The left has been on a campaign to destroy the nuclear family for fifty or sixty years. In fact you saw the front page of the Atlantic that said the nuclear family experiment was a tragic mistake and you can check it out yourself at the Atlantic now why is that well. The family unit is Biblical. The family unit is self. Reliant outside of the state and I'll point to something that happened in the sixties and Seventies. Some very profound things happen. We had the Great Society Act passed by President Lyndon Baines Johnson who in a sinister fashion destroyed the American families specifically the Black Family through the welfare state quasi-socialist policies that allowed Marxist ideas to be infiltrated into our inner cities and people became more dependent on the federal government and more addicted to government programs at the expense of somebody else but also some more fundamental things. We stop teaching the Bible in our schools and we got prayer out of our schools. And so I'm waiting for revival to happen. Politically point spiritually and we should be unapologetic and talking about this. And even some Republican Christians disagree with me on this because they point to a false talking point where I say that we should pass federal legislation. That if you receive any money from the federal government you should teach the Bible in public schools and now people say well Charlie what about separation of church and state and I said. Wait a second. I'll get to that second but I checked it. Took keep going. You know I'll start. I'm just I'm just interrupting. Did did you know some guy by the name of Jefferson? When they saw him and John Adams saw the direction of our nation with the children that there were there was there were reports that children were having either classroom. Settings are homeschool settings that they were assembling for school without a Bible. And did you know that Thomas Jefferson and John? Adams made sure that a Bible plate what a Bible had to be placed in a place of Education for children or else wasn't a school our founding fathers. When was the last time you heard about that? Very First Public School Act was the old Satan elude or act and that was to teach children to read so that Satan couldn't deceive them and they learned from the Scriptures New England primer. Charlie finished sorry and so they say some Republican Christians. Don't WANNA fight this battle because they say separation of church and state incorrectly. They also don't stand that right now. We have religion in our schools. It's called leftism that is a religion. It's a core beliefs values so the absence of Bible not teaching the Bible at all even as a historical document. You don't necessarily teach it as the word of God. People naturally come to that conclusion by being exposed to the Bible and they will understand the stories in the history and the wisdom within the taxed. However we've removed it strategically from the public schools by the way public. Schools are still teaching the Koran and they're teaching leftist ideologies at alarming rates. The single book that has an answer to all of our problems thousand years of history sixty six sixty six books thirty-five authors. That's the book decide not to teach our youth. You look at the nineteen sixties and seventies after the greatest generation. Yeah the sexual revolution. You had the attack on Christianity. You had the wrong ruling of Roe versus Wade which has been a fifty year crusade on the destruction of the American culture and it has to be the church that will rise up and revival against we can do one more question children's ministry children's all the guys kicked me out. We just got done talking about family talking about family but the problem is they all got kids. That's so that's not a problem. That was a joke. The blessing is a blessing. Children are blessing from the Lord. Just joking so which whichever one of you has the most amazing question? We'll just oh she knows to more jacked tomorrow morning. Good evening. Thank you for being here and what I want is some guidance for for young people. I have a sixteen year old daughter in law a granddaughter. Laura who is just an excellent student strong Christian girl. She's North Carolina. She clerked at the state government. The summer is involved on debate and everything has got his found. Your site and really appreciates what you do. They want to know how to she get involved with your group secondly for for any young people that have that type of desire to to fight for their country and and to use all the gifts that God has given them. What can you just talk about? Some of the some of the logical path they need to take and consider classes education in. If you would just speak to that happy to so thank you for the question so anyone that might be interested in getting involved with turning point. Usa We're now on two thousand high school and college campuses across the country. We had five thousand students at our end of the year event. Website is a great place for her to start. She can fill out a form there. It's a super easy website to remember teepee USA DOT COM so USA with in front of it. We're bringing these ideas to high school and college campuses. Every single day. I personally visit dozens every single semester and I give this exact same message to sometimes very very hostile college crowds. So here's some just general advice that I have when it comes to young people college general. We need to ask high school seniors. Hey why are you going to college? Where are you going to college? We we we do a we do a really really bad job of over glorifying the institution of college and stigmatizing carpenters electricians trades people as somehow less intelligent. I want you. I want you to think very clearly about this. Think about this when you're GonNa Watch presidential polling the media's going to divide America for you you know how they divide it for you the approval rating of the President for college educated and Non College educated. What are they saying for you? Here's what the smart people think. And here's what the dumb people think. In fact I think it's the opposite. I think the Non College educated people are far more wise than the college educated people that subtly and subliminally does to parents out. There is they say. I don't want my kid to ever be in the Non College educated category. If you WANNA play Russian roulette with your kids values. Send them off to college. They may come back someone completely and totally different. They want to be a lawyer or a doctor or something very specific and they got into a very good school. That is financially realistic for you. Then college might be the best option for you. We have way too. Many people going to college in America like ninety percent too many people going to college. It should be about career. Preparation not ideological exploration and people all the time they say Charlie whereas my kid going to get knowledge. If if your child sat down and watched every single prager you video. They would be infinitely more wise than the professor's teaching them out of the university. Enclosing is I know we got children's minister. I don't want to get in the way of that but look there's a lot of advice. I give to young people on the contrary radical with this way which is have your children divest from social media at the youngest possible age and this is somebody who has millions of followers on social media and I rely on social media to get my message out so maybe pick one social media platform that you'll have for your kid. Maybe I I only have one. It's just twitter. My team manages the rest. It's been one of the most liberating things I can possibly describe to you. I don't have instagram. I don't have facebook all gone twitter. Just there's a special relationship with twitter and I really enjoy but seriously the amount I talked to young people all the time especially young women I say what are you most anxious about social media social me. It's the driver of comparison. It's the driver of bad areas. You don't need to have it. It's not mandatory. And I know that's a radical radical idea and the other contrarian idea that I have for young people is to really consider taking a gap year before going to college taking one year to if there's something you really passionate about. I guarantee you the size of this church. There's an expert in this church that is in that field I am. I am passionate about media. I'm passionate about cars passionate about plumbing passionate about the trades. Find that person in this church. This young person. I'm talking to right now. Look at them in the eyes dress. Not How you might drove dress like this. This is fine and I look at them in the eyes and say you don't have to pay me. I'm deeply passionate about what you're doing. Will you allow me to study under you and Mentor under you? For one year for no pay. I will do whatever you ask. Because I'm passionate about this thing. Please give me a chance and in a church community. They probably will say yes. You will learn more in that one year about either your you might not actually passionate about that thing after like two months. That's a really really good thing to find out. Guess White No debt right. No sorority or fraternity. You had to Russia people that call you call you friends. And they're really not and you'd have to go through any event right or you actually might find. That is something you're passionate about. You're learning from an expert and you're learning for free and one year you will be one hundred times more qualified than someone that went to university southern. California studying that same thing so anyway you guys. We're going to. We're going to have to move quicks Charlie. We're GONNA have to go quick all right here. We go so which means we have to have them back right. So here's a question. Hey Charlie great to see you on my side of the coast for once they see you speak all the time and you were on fire tonight. You were on fire question. You will amazing amount of American activists in this room and I need to know. How do we take back ground? That Islam has actually gained in our education system as well as our government system as well as our financial systems. It is an urgent urgent question. I'll stood as quick as I possibly can. Can I just say one thing? I know you don't want me to answer the question. And then I have something to say after three of you to in the Bible says depre- for kings and the authority that we live quiet and peaceable lives in all godliness and reverence pastoral pistol. I asked people all the time when I travel the country name for me. Your five school board members that you pray for by name and the issues they're dealing with that allow your children in your community live quiet and peaceful lives in all godliness and reverence and they don't know their names. You want to make a difference step into the Public Square. Go to the school. Board meetings support candidates. Educate yourself and take back the culture and I know I'm trying not to point my finger because in two thousand fourteen. I was like everyone else. I had no clue. I didn't know politics from elbow from my ear lobe but I know more now engage. Take it I one call to action on this. Jack will enjoy this. Which before before the Election Day if I come back here do a program called adopt voter find one person in your life that you know is going to vote a likely voter and spend time with them. Shepherd THEM INFORM THEM. Show them videos almost pester them about this until they commit that they will vote correctly. If every single person in this church did that it would double instantaneously. And you'd be amazed. Everyone is worried about macro Makro. Macro what do I do to fix? The big problem with the left has done so well is they said we're just going to start with your kid and they did that a hundred million times over the last sixty years and that's how they been able to take him by the way they start with your kids for lotteries but one of them is. They're terrified of adults. That's why they start with your kids. Okay Listen Act for America. You familiar that you want to know stuff about Islam. Had to expose his Lomb in the Public Place Act for America. Brigitte Gabriel's doing great work. She's got chapters all across America pulling the mask off of Islam's infiltration into the public school system. Okay and then. There was a young man Ben. Was that your son. Does he have a question here? Buddy you WANNA ask. I knew we had more time Do you do reach out to your employees if they have different beliefs than you a great question. The answer is yes we have. We have a very diverse organization not necessarily politically for obvious reasons. But look we. We try to have socratic democratic marketplace of ideas and one piece of advice for every young person and give it up for the young man had the courage aspect workers the unafraid from a very young age to do with the left refuses to do which is to talk to the other side. It's very tempting not to want to talk to your liberal relatives or talk to your liberal friends or your liberal. Neighbors do what they refuse to do. And that that is living by the golden rule isn't it? Which is it's hard for the person down the street that has the Bernie Sanders sign and the coexist and the planned parenthood bumper sticker. But maybe they're one conversation away from having a completely change of world view. I have seen it happen more times than you could possibly imagine people working for me at turning point. Usa that were marching in the streets for trump's impeachment two years ago and all it took was someone with a table on a college campus to look at them in the eye and say. I believe in a system of government. Were all lives matter. And your life matters that believes in individual liberty and dignity in American sovereignty. An American excellence. And you'd be amazed at how shallow and how how fragile the leftism is when we as Christians and conservatives look at leftists in the is love on them preached to them and communicates communicates them as human beings. They're waiting for us to do that all the time. So you heard two candidates tonight. I'm running for reelection November and I want to say this to you my wife and I commit this and as citizens of California. There's fifteen million. Two Hundred Eighty Thousand Evangelical Christians half your registered to vote. You're talking soaking. They're not gonNA they're going to miss it. Men that man how important fifteen million evangelical voters in California half of them are not registered to vote of the Hatha registered to vote. They only half of those registered to vote. Vote got that. So twelve percent twenty five percent of US vote. But here's the challenge to all of you and my wife and I commit to this every election. You tied your church. These candidates are coming to you and it's called consent of the governed they're asking for your consent to to legislate your sovereignty and the way you give consent is support them. My wife and I commit ten percent of our income every election two candidates we believe in. It's GonNa cost you something if you really believe that. We make need to make a difference. It doesn't win elections to be cost too concerned visceral emails to your friends walk some precincts host to coffey put out a yard sign and contribute to the candidate and if that is offensive. Then don't complain because that's how you win elections. God bless you Jack. Jack asked me to close in prayer before I do that. I just want to reemphasize if you guys do do that. Small thing subscribe to the podcast by typing it in it helped immeasurably because people organically are GonNa wake up in the morning. And they'll see the Charlie Kirk show at the top and they're going to hear this exact message and the very same one I gave last time with Jack. On stage had well it was one of the best performing episodes. We've ever had hundreds of thousands of people listen to it and I got message that people coming to Christ all around the world and you guys made that happen so if you guys do that it'd be a great blessing to me so if you join me. Join me in prayer so dear. Lord thank you for this incredible church for this chosen leader of Jack. Hibs and everyone that is here tonight on a Wednesday voluntarily spending their time. Lord we pray for our country yes we pray. For our president we pray for people that are seeking spiritual and political revival we pray for the unborn children and we pray for the mothers that will come to the revelation that they choose life. Lord we thank you for. Everyone gathered here. That action will be taken and that truth will be fought for. Thanks so much for listening everybody and make sure you guys get your copy of the magazine doctrine a G. A. Doctrine. Right now we are on pace for a bestseller and a g a doctrine on pace for a bestseller. Thanks so much everybody talk to you soon from the creators of cold case files and PD stories comes the next great. True crime podcast. I survived every week. I survived presents. 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"This is exactly right and welcome to my favorite murder. That's georgia heart dark. That's karen caldera hi ga. We are again dashed coming from you here. We got coda casper ou you know what we should shout out. How may i may. I suggest place. It's basically almost very soon coming up on the one year anniversary of fucking corona firing coach and Over the world and the beginning of the lockdown we made any. We're making it look because flynn should. We just be a little on us. The last time we went to record it was a bumpy ride for both of us. We had twenty minutes in. And i said should we put it was like it was dark thing after dark thing. That was just like no one wants to hear dr thing. After dark thing it was it was like it's it was exactly the opposite of what you would go. Oh i'm gonna listener panmure. Whatever you're seventeen reasons might be none of them. Were on this list as this stuff we started talking about and it was that kind of thing where it was almost like an amazing example of anti conversation where we both had like our own agendas and it was just like i want to do. We shouldn't do what you're what you're saying is not what we should be doing right now. Okay what can i say something. And then it turned and then georgia does not into this. We do a live show. And i was like yes relief because there's party that just wanted to close my computer and walkaway komo. Yes oh depressing. Right now is awful. And then i and then we just kept both doubling down. Did you watch this and like well. Did you flocking. Did you drown your sorrows. This did you learn this lesson from this documentary. It was just like a could. Could we somehow reapproach why we love to do this. And it's not about listing shows we watch on streaming services. That's like everyone is like we're all just like we have nothing left to give you but suggestions for what is is distracting us from the past year lee. Anything else it's mo- it's much more fun to talk about real things that we can both get into instead of like. Well did you watch it. Or didn't that's what they're all positive be called the challenge. You did you not watch it. And we know who's watching completely different. Fucking styles of everything. Yes however however you watched should. This is all out there. S the woody. Allen is is as a clear and present child blaster documentary. I did not allegedly. I did not okay. We'll talk about it next. sorry. I know it's good for exactly what we're not doing. Moving on amy no not to shut you down and not to be conversationally negative. Oh i hear who wants to be in what's up. That's the first time she's ever like actually put her her her muzzle into the conversation. You know why he made a deadly mistake which usually feed them. Before i start. Excuse me my I'm wearing his watching. It says his six ten right now. I will be with. You should wear a shirt shark. Watch and i hear you speaking and i here really. I see that you've pulled. You're your pocket. Watch out of your pocket. Mom i've been learning about boundaries. And i just want you to know i've been really been triggered lately. Everyone's going through a point in therapy because it's so quiet in our lives you know. There's a outside noise in desperation but let's enter. Our inner lives are quiet. And so the my okay. So all right so i listen. I are in the in inventory. California on Just i'm calling it an airbnb breather. That's that's not great I'm working on it but it's basically it's basically the idea of. Let's go stare at different walls. Because we're so fucking sick of the walls we've been staring at yup and my therapist was like you're not allowed to read or listen to any self help books or podcasts on your trip because you've just got to stop it and you just read something fun and you're trying to absorb a way too much like self help learning shit and just needs to ruminate. What was i point. That's a good well. No that's that's the point in of itself. That's a really good point is like but you know what is your you basically went to the coast to like basically have a different experience so you actually have to be in that experience s not trying to fix past experiences while you're having a present right it's not constantly being like yeah. I canceled my second appointment of the week and therapy and i'm just like career What the fuck is she doing. Invent her like. It doesn't make it. It's actually a lovely little beach beachside town. I wasn't like trying to be judgmental about ventura. It's just like it's just basically like that. It's it's not a destination where you when you said that i was like. She must have a cousin that is there something like that. That's the guy that had. Its three it. Quieter less pretentious. No offense santa barbara yes. That's what i forgot that it's right there on our way. We really like it here. It's like the one safe thing you can do is either go camping or go to the beach right like go to the coast where the empty ocean. So nice one. I mean that's really nice. Yeah suck up. Some of those the negative ions get that good cleaner. The walls are so different over here. There's fucking a sea-fish seaside Motif going on with his airbnb person knows who they're fucking selling to. We know you're here for this big mouth bass or ron in the middle l. Amulets puppy at home with our incredible trainer. So we're leaving the puppy at home to be better by the time we get that like nothing fills better thank you so the pepys was to get be less of a puppy in two days. Well can it may i. Yeah yeah as we believe in you. Speaking of decor can i have one suggestion or woodley. We found that's mainly really. This can be decor corner. Because i can actually tell you great. Okay i've told you about like What was it called cottage core. Thank you cottage. And i've told you about. I could do that. Why because there's only so many topics talk about eight months ago members i talked about. I remember every word okay. Well there's cottage core talk to you about beekeeping and the new hashtag obsession. I have that. I didn't know i was until i saw is called. Hashtag clutter core and its pro. Clutter clutter for or hashtag maximalism. And you've been my second house. That are just yet schalke annex and these people it's me it's just it's an. I felt so guilty on just shit everywhere like you. Fill your house with clutter but vintage clutter which you and i both love and i i suddenly like. Oh i don't feel guilty about it anymore. It's an aesthetic. It's like every single piece that c in my house you can point to. I'll tell you a story about. It feels good so look clutter core or other gore's it's basically. Somebody's risen up against marie kondo. They're just like we will eight suffer under the last. This minimalism anymore. And i touch every single thing. And they're all haunted and they give me joy and fuck you about it the f. You for sure he really nice to not suck you just like back on her back off. Well you just get to like what you like the end. And i think maria would i think that's what murray's actually deeply alabama which is kind of like figure out what you like and then do that st all. I can think of this when so we tried to record yesterday and my wife. I went out like old school style and it was. It felt like i was lying. Kept texting georgetown shots of like. It's not worth it saying like we know like you're right now in screenshots of it and then you're like i'm not lying. I'm not lying georgia. I am not but it felt like the classic live like sorry my adviser anyway by as i texted stephen of like holy shit. I can't get this. i can't do that. Whatever stephen texted beckam. Marie kondo gifts. And it's her going. I love mess. And if made me laugh again stephen the king king of the guests and live i was gonna say yes literally stacks of dinosaur toys even hashtag letter on to the dining on if you are less interested in clinic or or you're still looking. You're neither minimalist nor max and you're not sure my friend dave messmer who I'm sure i've told many many stories about He was my roommate in college and in l. a. He's the one that lip sync groove is in the heart that time we really saying that he wouldn't stop He's one of the funniest people of all time. Thank you and He told me about this. Danish concept called hike way. He pronounced it. But i don't. I don't think that's accurate. But it's essentially the danish of living which is about being cozy a and i'm thinking media this really thick cable. Knits like obscenely large. Knit cablenet blankets. Yes and hot one of the things they were like rob a blanket around you. You get it. Cut you super drink. A big cup of tea souverain stocks. That's what it's all about. And there's a book i haven't read it but is the first thing that came up in. That's what when. I looked it up when he and i were talking about. It's called the little book of secrets to happy. Living is why g. g. h. And the author is mike m. e. k. Waking w i k i n g oh your last name was mike mike mike. I don't get naik might be a woman we don't know okay but that's i love that idea because remember When we were in We were somewhere. I think we were in amsterdam and we stayed in in that hotel where i was like. I want this as an apartment. Oh yeah just like everything was just perfectly definitely tyler miller every about it was almost mediterranean. Hell like the a perfect it was. Yeah the titles. The everything about it was so perfect. And i feel like a women lists that vibe. It's gone by amending the hashtag. For sure i i. There is a. I do when we bought our house. It had a wood burning fireplace. Which i know is like whenever you look at houses online at wood burning fire like original wood burning fireplace. We immediately turned into new gas fireplace. Because i was just like. I just wanna fuck turn it on when i want to turn it on to me. That's the height of luxury of luxury. Kind of probably dinged our house a little bit like on the market but who gives a shit it was it was fucking now just like fires all the time. Well yea and also in. La just don't like fires because you'll burn everything down out lamey alone you hash you. Hashtag fireplace purists. Let me say this Let's talk about another positive something that's happening on social media. That's very positive. Are kyle russell. Who is doing the lip syncs of us and he's just keeps turning them out and each one funnier than last there was one. I just watched. It's and i said this before. Kyle thank you for making me like an appreciate my own thing. Because that's the part of this. That is difficult to sometimes. I just like. I don't want to hear my own voice anymore. I don't think about it anymore. It's the difficult thing and it's like. I watched that and it makes me love us. Yeah and there was one where you're he's doing you talking over here and as i'm answering he's putting on lip gloss blackmailed me and then he just did the one where we're talking about baby donna. And he does it with A person named courtney who's at court under score agnew it's so funny it's like except tiktok thing that i it makes me feel like i'm eighty years old children to me. Which is rod concept. Very cute which What's his name dave hill. Do you know dave with them That reminds me of the duet. Me thing which is like a thing on tiktok where like one person will eat it like do an acting thing and you can act against them on your own and recorded or like play music. So dave hill his fucking hilarious comedian. Who also happens to be like shred on guitar way. That doesn't make sense in isn't fair. Amazing he did a duet me with ed sharon. It's his instagram. And tiktok where. Ed sheeran's like do it me and start strumming a guitar. And dave hill comes in and fucking turned it into a metal song. That's the memo like just like like like nail work hand finger work. I've never seen in my life. It was so bad us. He's the batya. He's genuinely a hilarious. He so funny now. If you wanna watch another you know our obsession with Speech what's the speed washing called power-wash our washing. So i follow this woman now on instagram. Who found her calling. It's really interesting. Her name is lady. Cafo st a p. h. o. s. She found her calling in Not power-washing because she's all natural ingredients in school like really gives care and love into cleaning. Old vintage Headstones oh yes like Something and she does you know like she'll do Slaves who died hundreds of years ago and tell their story and just like really care. Take these old you know. Moss covered covered stones. That you can barely read and then cleans them. And i didn't realize that it was like a thing that called to her that she had to do after her divorce. And so there's this podcast. Call divorce club podcast. Where they talked to people who've who went through divorces and what you know how they came out on the other side. That's really awesome as well. So i recommend that as well a really beautiful thing of like i was watching. I saw one of those. Because it got i somehow sought on twitter and it is incredibly satisfying. Because it's like cleaning video like a power-washing video but then the thing underneath is like historic a beautiful mini monument to a person that may not have been even seen exact has there was all that stuff covering in you. you know. I love that project. Nice little julie. It's really nice haughtily. I was going to mention is since we're just gonna do. I mean what else can we do. We can't this is all we can do. And you really. What is life but suggestions but all reasons suggestion yourself another to your friends. What do you do if you hang out with friends. You suggesting to them. That's right this. If you liked the book attached which. I recommended a about a month ago. Which i loved and it felt like i blazer so quickly another. There's another book. It actually goes a little bit deeper and breaks down a little bit more because the and it's it's kind of full circle because I i know. I'm gonna say her last name wrong again carlo. Feel or thile. Who hosts unstuck your brain. Which is the other podcast. I recommended i listened to an episode. She did where she talked about. She kinda believes an attachment theory but believes there's more to it and then recommended this book. Okay and this is a book called insecure in love by leslie. becker phelps. I own that because a friend went to couples therapy and the end she immediately therapist was like y'all need to re this. Yes insecure and love. Yes it's fascinating and it. Is the detail. Work unit is. Everybody wants some kind of a like. How the fuck do you do this. How do you maintain a relationship with a person. How do you actually past past the initial. Would everyone likes where you're like. You're attractive you talk the way. This is fine milestones and then it's like real i told get that when you get When you get past that it's like then when the problems come up it's like bath. Fuck it or whatever. Your approaches these. It's like actually helpful information about why people do things they do. So if you got or you liked the other book insecure in love by leslie. Becker felt i think a good thing to remember too. Is that like that. Nobody has that easy. Look around at other couples. Like how are they. They're such a perfect couple. They're so good at it and that's like just an impossible. It's impossible every couple has things. Some couples are really lucky that they found someone who's attachment style exactly mirrors them but it's it's never easy so everyone right thinking about anybody. 'cause you're it you're on instagram. And you're also lightly high because everyone is different levels of miserable. Admit sorry six say based on the was it a book a probably Listen let's see my brera it. Look listen. I'm listening to a podcast called through the cracks which i highly recommend which is a true crime podcast. That's a really important story through the cracks yet through the cracks. It's really powerful and really well done. What network is it on. Its on w. amu cool. What else did they do. I need a new one. Yeah this one's important and powerful and great Oh it was nina simone's birthday last week. On those great singer and a activist and amazing like prodigy. Piano player and a bunch of people were posting different tweets about her and it reminded me of the great so liz garbis who directed all begun in darn. She directed a documentary about nina simone. Like i think five or more years ago and it's called what happened. Miss simone and If you like nina. Simone interested in both Mazing music and kind of like civil rights action. She is just this incredible bass that i feel like should i wish he was known more so If you haven't seen that documentary by garbis you absolutely shows the name of it against so good. What happened miss simone. It's about her whole life. It's just really mind-blowing amazing. Yeah what do you think. Should we do exactly right all right. Well it lots of great stuff so much. Great stuff happening on exactly right This week that we're just gonna do a quick rundown of everything so on this podcast will kill you. They're talking about human papilloma viruses. Hp very important needs to know about that. That's right and the murder squad was included in the newsweek top. Twenty five true crime podcast. Twenty twenty one which is really exciting along with ten more. Wicked my favorite murder and Monday's episode they have melissa mccarthy and kelly maclear from The killer jeans podcast then on lady to lady they have. Emily ashford from masters of sex in kinky boots on broadway and then on. That's messed up. Their special guest is comedian margaret. Show yup friend of the pa yup friend of the network friend of american an comedian. Jay jurden no gifts with birger this week. He's hilarious. And i saw what you did million danielle discuss. I'm going to get you suck. 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There's no pity we're taking back the night and right so much fucking work on that the were not only the work we did the work and the performance but then the work audience state of showing up. I mean being so good to us the entire time after time after time i shouted upper slow upper. Yeah sloan at petco. I wanna to give a shout out for recognizing cookie. Even though i was covered up in my a face mask and shabby chic clothes that are just shabby and turn a corner and she goes cookie and it was the first time i had run into a murderer reno in like over a year at that point so so happy to see her. She was so sweet. So i think sloane reminded me of live shows. And i was like i want to hug you but i can't seem to mirror you all right so this is from the vic theater in chicago beautiful chicago. So this is. The brown's chicken massacre which was a mass murder that occurred in january eighth. Nineteen ninety-three in palatine illinois. And i just. It's just a horrible one of those stories that are like you know who had the fucking gall to do this. And the way that the killers are caught is just a miraculous thing so the story. I'm so glad. I get to post it until it because i just. It's it's an incredible awful heroic story. Listen yeah we're gonna do. The brown's chicken massacre so we've gotten a lot of tweets and e mails about. Why won't you fucking do this well to find out because it's horrifying okay. That's what we're here for on january. Eight nine thousand nine hundred ninety three seven. People were closing brown's chicken and pasta in palatine a northwest suburb of chicago illinois palatine. Everybody time team. Someone say that it's palatine. Sorry who by the way like nineteen eighty-six commercial is steve carell posting it. As like the owner of this brown's out his series was he so good and funny he was so cute. Looks exactly the same back is kind of scary vampire. He's insanely talented. he doesn't age. I never never not funny empire. We hate him spreading rumors at okay so chicago the story. The store owners were richard and lynn. Ellen felt who had spent their life savings to buy this franchise the two daughter. Their two daughters were scheduled to beat the restaurant that night working. But instead guadalupe maldonado michael c castro and rico l. solace the latter two are palatine high. School students who were working there part time. One was a high school senior who just moved from the philippines to escape the violence and his filipino. American friend. high school. Junior who wanted to be a marine as well as thomas manners and marcus nielsen nelson. Who were working the closing shift so inside the friars have been shut off. The floors are mops. Everything's being closed down for the night and the employees are finishing up and ask they're closing four tempo pulls up carrying two men and the ellen felts had a policy that they allowed last minute customers to order. They work. Nice fucking yeah. That's i know that's the nicest people when you go up near like go please please please just jaw. Meaning water shirk water. I put out. I should've have known wasn't a trick. Water i wanna get trick water. She's such a practical joke. So that one of them a fucking four piece chicken meal and they go to sit down and eat it. What fucking for peace does that like first of all. Let's shoe many pieces. what's the problem either. Closing the store go into like a clothing store. A half hour closed because you know every every single hangar has been like you know meticulously and then you're just like i am going to ask i know but once you're in that door and they actually un then you're just like okay. I'm gonna get coleslaw aberdeen's no dick move so okay. So they they sit down to eat their fucking food. At least that is super lame. But they're not there for chicken okay. It's the final days sale to rung up at nine pm. And as eight minutes past closing and as they e in a booth everyone continues their last minute closing rituals by eleven pm that night. The families of the workers are starting to worry that their sons having come home and after dragging by browns which is dark side of the castros car is still in the parking lot. It's about eleven forty five and police say but he calls the police at eleven forty five but police say that log in the log. it says it's called it one or two. Am so there's a discrepancy there after many attempts by the families of all these boys to get the police to take their worry seriously because they're like they went mad sandwiches and booze and they're like they don't drink sandwiches wrong. Yeah including going to the police station to file a missing persons report. Castro's father returns to brown's third time along with guadalupe maldonado's brother who was also worried after guadalupe hadn't come home to his sentencing as was his ritual and they also had a police officer with them. It's just after three am and they finally try that green employee entrance door which is open expectedly and inside. They spot a jacket hanging just inside. And that's when guadeloupe's brother spots an arm poking out of the walk in freezer door. It's propped open. There's a tile floor and the officer sees it gets the out of there saying this is a crime scene when all said and done seven people were dead. The assailant store stole less than two thousand dollars from the restaurant. The case remain unsolved nearly nine years. Oh let's get the photo of them. The restaurant we have like two photos. So that's it and there's another one. Oh there you go. that's it. Okay fuck man so the case and then let's sorry you're it nineteen ninety three ot recently. Yeah the case remained. That wasn't a slam. sorry ask what a shady truck is. I thought i was saying i wasn't. I think that it was recently because we're both like that was ten years ago. You know what i mean. It's not like what is it. I'm stone cold sober. I swear to god. I swear to you. It's true i'm the fucked up one. Real peyote peyote on. That'd be amazing. To do peyote before a show. I don't know i'm just going see what it opens up. Look like you could've just had a glass of champagne onstage. I wanted to do day oti natural. Everyone's like the four boyfriends there in the middle of a really fucking depressing story. What the funding with them. Inappropriate is one of those and kevin kevin and dave we apologize. You're right you're right yet. Your feelings get so hurt all the time. Your girlfriend is not at fault. She usually listens on our way to work. What what about the other night. A meet-and-greet that girl over to george goes like this. Is the last one cute like when you get excited to tell me something. you'd nails. Yeah i have to do nails. I'm sorry it's intense. I'm used to not being listened to as a younger so like in my family. If you were like mom dad or whatever they could. It was as if nothing was happening. You have to be like i will drop from. You would have noticed about myself until right. Now what a great experience journey that. We're on together. The mass murderer okay. The case remained unsolved for nearly nine years until two thousand and two when an lock. It came forward and implicated her former boyfriend. James d gorski and his friend one that luna its lead four thousand eight hundred forty two in the murder investigation that crazy jesus christ and how long after how many years after nine okay. That's such a long time to wait. It is Lock it says. She told she was told about the massacre over a pot. Smoking session guys. That would freak me out so bad. Can you imagine. I'm like i'm trying to play. Mario kart what are you doing. I mean i think a lot of us are like no murder during pie. That does those things. Don't go together. I can't even watch planet earth without free right. There's a lot of true crime and planet earth though those. She said that they said that they wanted to do something. Big juan luna was a former employee of the restaurant so he would've known that they serve people. You know what i mean. And he had he had left on good terms for a new job a couple of months earlier so they he was questioned but wasn't suspected but according to an lock it he knew the money in the store and he was eighteen at the time of the murders. He was now nine years later married with a young son. The details of the murder came out and here are the details. Lynn elden fell to us. Forty nine that's the owner. She was the first victim when her throat was slashed. And they're all two of them are in a freezer like walk in freezer at the time. Getting everything together to close and then the murderers put that four of them in another walk in freezer and throw lynn after her fucking throat was slashed into that freezer. Can you fucking imagine being like we're getting robbed and then you're like oh no. This is bigger than that. Yeah and you have a panic attack. So then. A marcus castro. Who is the youngest victim at sixteen was shot six times. And then and guadalupe maldonado's forty six rico solace who seventeen had bullet wounds in the back of their heads and thomas menace whose thirty two shot twice in the upper back and once in the temple and then richard ellen felt fifty was shot five times so in april two thousand to the palestine police department match the dna samples. Are you ready for this. Yeah she says. It's one luna the dna sample from. Are you ready. I demanded there be a towel on the table at all time. So i can shake punctuation tower. This is awful. They find the dna from the eaten. Chicken was thrown in the garbage. How shannon yes stupid fucks especially because i was like did they. Test all the chicken bones. They have already taken the trash out because they were closing all my god and so they threw chicken in there. They took the dna. I'm sorry but those cops are like thank fucking three. I don't know what the four i'm gonna take it anyways. Chicken bone chicken bones out that one skin. Eight one of the monster. Yeah it's not backed up yes. The chicken was okay. The chicken was supposedly kept in the freezer for most of the time since the crime the palestine police department to the two suspects into custody on may sixteenth two thousand and two and luna confesses to the crime during interrogation although a lawyer but later claimed that he was coerced to do so through corporal punishment and threats of deportation. Then they both go to trial so luna spin on trial in two thousand and seven. He's found guilty of seven counts of murder and sentenced to life in prison without parole in may on may seventeenth two thousand seven. The stated sought note gets shitty. When you thought yeah this isn't the end. There's schumer but a lot of that. Is her poetry down that she has you here just quietly. It's really beautiful. The states the death penalty which was available at the time. But the jury voted eleven to one in favour. They fell short eleven to one so one person that was like no can't do it then. So james gorski. The other guy was found guilty. September two thousand nine on all seven counts of murder but it's largely based on the testimony of an lock it because there's physical evidence as well as a friend of hers and they both said that he had confessed to them and then october twentieth to nine. He sentenced to life in prison without parole again. A couple of the jurors voted no to the death penalty. Okay so now it gets stuck in fucked up. So turns out that there's a petition in the circuit court that walkabout lock it and lock. It misled into believing that she had a much closer relationship with gorski at the time of the crime than she actually did. They say that she was sorry. Is there a live sheep. And that's not cool at all. Was that oprah goat. That was the weirdest fucking sound creepy hunted. I'm telling let's not make noises like that guys. So i don't know how much of this i believe. And it's really complicated. But supposedly people say she wasn't dating him at the time people meaning their lawyers. I'm sure and that she was actually involved with a man. She had met while both were hospitalized for psychiatric issues. And so basically all the dirt's coming up on your yeah. Yeah so then. Let's see he says that man in a sworn statement says that she had never mentioned a gorski or is involvement in the murders and instead. He says that she had called him a few months after their own break-up knew anything about the murders he said she told me that whoever came forward with information would be entitled to a reward money and that if i heard who might have done the murders i should contact her and then and it turns out that soon. After that conversation he was inexplicably inexplicably. Question three separate times about his involvement. The woman. let's see so the cook county jury also never told lock it would split nearly one hundred thousand dollar reward money with her friend. That had also. Yeah so the a lot of pot. You buy fogging nyc six bags of with them. Yeah okay and then really quickly. I want to have this little part of hometown murder that we got from sam from chicago said there's more than one probably they would not get their answer okay. My friends neighbor called in a tip incriminating her. Then boyfriend juan luna who worked at the churches back in high school the police arrested him and his accomplices. But they say at the time they were at the cross town basketball game so when they got question back in high school they said they were basketball game and then. Her friend sam's said that he was trying to get interviewed by the cops to let them know that he wasn't with both luna and the other guy he was just with lena. So she's saying he has an alibi and then okay. Almost on march twenty fourteen. Okay here's smoked up in march twenty. Fourteen jury awarded jayme to gorski four thousand four hundred thousand fifty dollars in compensation and punitive damages for having been beaten by a sheriff's department and cook county jail in may twenty twenty one twenty two thousand and two We can do this happen in the future. I am not saying it was a future sheriff beating a lot of metal so he got that much money when he was questioned by police got beaten and gave his confession then he suffered facial fractures that required surgery and the deputy was eventually dismissed a little bit extreme And i guess the palatine police department has obtained confessions to the slayings from at least five others who were never charged. So it's possible. They had a Like a pattern pattern anyways. The lead the bill. Wow happening in. How long does it take for peyote to kick in. I mean. I think you're right on time. The building was raised. The church's chicken churches am. i swear. Did we start the gas too early. I mean there are podcast podcasters who to our night after night and they handle their just never. Okay never churches new jersey sick. I don't it. Was that sheep at fuck. You and your animals familiar coming to tell you to go to churches chicken. The building was torn down in april. Two thousand two after having briefly been a dry cleaning establishment and then a delhi and then standing vacant for many years so another place. You don't wanna walk by on your way to the grocery store like h murder castle for. Can you imagine working at that dry cleaner or the chase branch that was that is now there that evil talking place in the location can't figure out why you have such bad vibes here like. Was it the murderers it. Just you've fucking guys big banks or murder. I mean we should dig up the ground in there to just while we're at it. Yeah right so. That was the brown's chicken massacre. Yes i agreed to do this again with you. Summertime with the holiday season right around the corner. It's time to indulge in the sights and sounds and sense of the season so update your native collection with their candy. Cane holiday sent the perfect addition to your daily routine this holiday season native deodorants. Don't just block odor better. They're made with ingredients. 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Remember our dallas irving texas show in that huge. Play that huge theater. We had the we had the best series of shows cowboy boots. I accidentally flashed the audience might underpants. Yeah jaipur georgia. Are you wearing a circle. Is your dress. Have a circle skirt and it sure does and spun in the best like childhood twirl the yet but she we were about eight feet above the front row. And we just heard this tonight. Just even greek. At at that end. I can find okay. The top of the show outplays so hilarious. So that'll you'll you'll get that experience. I guess spoiler alert. Do you remember on our first tour ever had to borrow tights from you. Then i still have them in my drawer. Hot pink tights. Oh my god twenty-six we go back three fucking years. Thank you thank you. We've grown loves. I've taken to full pairs of georgia's tanks and tell you something. No something how long you're out. Oh yeah now your partner. And i just show you did you really. It was on the big screen. No i was very tight. Two nights i did that my ass. Can we roll that tape on the big screen so this was an exciting show for us not only for being there being on the road but also because of our great hero. Journalists skip hollandsworth was in the audience that night and Or he was in the audience the night before right and then i did his story or it was the night before and then he was in the next night. Whatever he's is around we meet him on that weekend. Yes yes but it was a real honor because oftentimes when we we do shows in texas for all the years that we've done live shows in texas. We pull stories from the amazing magazine. Texas monthly at their journalists. Write these incredible. You know like immersive deep dive story about these different crimes that happened in texas and they've got some amazing ones. Okay so this one is definitely one of my favorites. It's by the legendary journalist skip hollandsworth. It's the story of the legendary bank robber cowboy bob so last night. If you're lucky enough to be here we we were so excited because the True crime or i guess just general. Journalists skip hollandsworth was a secret special gas and he came out and chatted with everybody. And my story tonight is entirely taken from an amazing article that he wrote for the legendary magazine texas monthly. So good such a good fucking magazine. You ever do the thing you read one article on their website and then at the bottom like you might also like this and then you're like goodbye the rest of the day. It's my favorite. I love it. It's so good. So this i got. It's a two thousand five article by skip hollandsworth. That was in texas monthly about the legend of bank robber. Cowboy bob come. I love this so much excited for this. Okay we also say what a lovely human being skip was back stage afterwards with his kid in like her friends and he was just so nice the best. Yeah he has a really cool family. Hasn't hate us. I'm excited okay. So one morning in may of nineteen ninety-one a bearded man with a cowboy hat enters the american federal bank. Just off west airport freeway in irving texas seriously. Yeah other one prepared. And then i started reading this article and i was like works have just switched my now when when it's his turn line. He approaches the counter greeted by the female teller. And without saying a word he hands her a note and that note says this is a bank robbery. Give me your money. No marked bills or die tax so the ham the teller handsome the cash. He calmly puts it into his bag and without looking around or blind anything out of the ordinary happening he turns and very casually walks out of the bank. No one notices no one but the teller no knows that it's happening because he has none of the normal indicators of bank robbers which is obviously you'd kind of check over your shoulder maybe or at least of the corner. I there's none of that. Stick them up. No it's total silence. The entire thing happens in silence and then when he goes out to the parking lot so so he leaves. The police arrive almost immediately. And when they review the security camera footage they see a thin man with a full beard cowboy hat wearing sunglasses gloves and keeps his head down. Tip down perfectly enough. So the entire time so his face is obscured they can't get any like defining features from his face and of course he doesn't fidget so they they immediately like. Oh guy's a professional. He's done this before. There's no fidgeting there's no nervousness at all and when he goes out to his brown nineteen seventy five pontiac grand prix in the parking lot. He drives away normally like anyone else would. So there's no they say that normally bank robbers will appeal out or driveway fast and and then drive through a red light and just try to get away as fast as they can. And that's what makes eye witnesses notice and then write your license plate number down so of course. None of that happened. He drove away so there were no i witnesses so not only are the police stuck with no leads but they realize that this is someone who knows exactly what they're doing and so here is a clip of that footage from that rubber man and his big old hat okay so seven months later in december of nineteen ninety-one the same mysterious man. It's another bank in irving this time savings america while that no no one. No one's there. Do they have really bad rates or something again. The bearded sunglass cowboy headed man. That is a note to the teller. This time he makes off with one thousand two hundred and fifty eight dollars but a witness sees him drive out of the parking lot and does write down the license plate number nosy right. I i know but out why they write it down. I bid it must have been someone from inside. the bank. that ran forward is my personal theory. That's it but we don't know skipping. I don't know so the police get licensed. They trace it immediately to a house. That's actually right close to the banks. They speed over there when they get there. They find an old lady sitting in her living room. Who says i haven't left the house all day. And i haven't left the house all day out is probably more like it right so once they go outside they see that the old ladies reg chevrolets missing its license. One license plate old lady would be the bank robber. So i was here for that. So a month later in january of nineteen ninety-two the robber strikes again. And this time. It's at texas heritage bank. In garland the exact same mo. This time he leaves with three thousand dollars. He strikes a fourth time in may of nineteen ninety. Two at the nation's bank in mesquite this time teller puts the cash together but as the teller tries to the cash together. he tries to sneak a dye. Pack into the gadget. Don't be a hero. The robber clocks it and takes it out and hands it back to the teller and walks away. That's so much more creepy than if he'd like punched him in the face. Or whatever i know dislike you can go ahead and keep that your chain. Sorry so this time. He makes off with five thousand three hundred seventeen dollars. So the fbi agent assigned to this case is a man. Named steve powell. And he's going crazy because he's like shit. We can't get this guy and he can't figure out who this as i wrote. Smooth bank robber is so until they can identify him. He decides to give the bank robber. The nickname cowboy bob so four months after that last night in september of nineteen ninety-two cowboy bob. Rob's the first gibraltar bank in mesquite taking seventeen hundred dollars and the police get the license plate number and track the car and a with sba fbi agents following closely behind them but once again they track the plates to nearby resident who then realizes his own plates have been stolen. So it's the exact same thing so as they're investigating that robbery they police get a call from mesquite's first interstate bank a mile away saying cowboy. Bob has just come through and stolen a whopping thirteen thousand seven hundred and six dollars like finally i got a fucking pay down real. He keeps on getting these tellers. Who had just dropped everything down the little the little forever tube and so he's like oh i got lazy won. That didn't cash out. That was his biggest hit yet. So according to the teller cowboy. Bob was so pleased with the amount of money that he got on. This one tipped his hat to her as he walked away. Because he's classy mother fucker. Yeah so just a year and a half cowboy. Bob has stolen a total of twenty about twenty six thousand dollars from six different banks around the dallas area the larger area so the f. b. I wonder if they're dealing with criminal mastermind and if they'll ever be able to catch him or if it's just someone who lazy he doesn't wanna get a job because it's not that much it's like what you'd make any year to rape witness so so on this on that last hit a witness has taken again taken down the license plate number so this time police trace it to a man named pete tallus works at a ford auto parts factory in carrollton. So you said mosquito. You already cheered. Can't share for two different places. They're both of those cities are amazing and different way. Okay so when they go talk to pete he says yes that is i own a brown. Nineteen seventy five pontiac grand prix. Yes but i gave it to my mom and my sister because they didn't have enough money to get a car of their own. And when they tell pete that the grand prix has just been used in a bank. Robbery says bullshit. That car can't go fast enough okay. So he's right. I mean he's right. So the police get pete's mom and sisters address and they head over to the apartment complex where they live in the parking lot when they pull in. They spot cowboy. Bob's car the brown grand prix and so they huddle up and they start discussing what they should do. You're like this is obviously where he's holed up. And now we have to make our plan and they're talking about she. We just bust down the door. You like storm in and catching because we could catch him with the money or do we slow play it. They're trying to figure it out and they see a woman walk out of the apartment and up toward the car and she went shorts and a shirt and they're like. Oh i bet you. That's calloway bob's girlfriend. So they decide. She's gets in the car and drives away so they let her drive off and they decide what they're going to do is agent. Powell is gonna stop her around the corner so cowboy. Bob can't see them talking from the apartment so they wait until she's like a little further away and they pull the car over and inside. That's where they meet. Peggy joe thomas so she politely introduces herself. She explains yes. The cars hers. She got it from her brother and that he they asked her. Have you used it at any time today. And she goes. Yeah i just got a went out and picked up some fertilizer earlier this morning and so agent powell and his team searched the trunk. They do find bag of fertilizer in the trunk and then he asked if they can search her apartment and she says i mean there's nothing in there but my mom who's like an old lady but they're like that's fine. Let's check it out so at the apartment the officers ring the doorbell and peggy's piggy joe's mom. Helen answers the door and the new shock as a team of f. b. i. Agents and police officers storm past her with the guns drawn to go into the apartment but once they get there they just see that. It's this really neat. Tidy apartment that the two ladies living together and there's nothing no cowboy bob piles of money. Nothing so they kind of. They're looking around. They go into pages bedroom. They think maybe they're hiding like if it is her boyfriend that she she's hiding him somewhere in the closet or whatever but no they just see the nicely made and they open the closet and all her closer very perfectly ironed and hung up. And it's like. Oh yeah we really got this wrong. And then an officer notices styrofoam mannequin head up on the shelves in the closet with a fake beard. Not it okay. And then next to that a cowboy have and then they check under peggy. Joe's bed there's a bag full of cash under there. So i mad at them for not hiding that shit better. Yes like pull up some floorboards. Shove your shit under there. So basically officer powell turns to peggy jo and starts asking are sorry what is the stuff and why do you have in your room. And as she's as he's talking to her he noticed he notices that she's got a little bit of fake beard glue on top of her and it turns out cowboy. Bob is peggy jo taleh. What swears and he's like her she. She's the one that's been beating me this whole time. The lip glue part is like too good to be true where he's kind of like so anyway. What's do you have the hold on a second. My god i wanna see it all lineup for him. Like a movie so weird. Let's take it await there. She is the little girl or the lets her. She's eight years old and she loves money. That's you joe up dirt haggi. That's her knees. I believe i mean don't do crimes but but just be cool. Yeah so he. Agent pal arrests. Peggy jo they bring down to the station. So they're stunned to find this polite very pretty seemingly very standardly normal woman has been the man robbing banks and stymying the cops and the f. b. i. for year and a half when they ask peggy joe why she did it. She doesn't say anything and she also doesn't really talk to her defense attorney. She'll say is that she robbed the first bank to help pay for her sick mother's medication for the degenerative bone disease that she has and that but then when they ask her why she kept on. Doing it just stares at the wall. And shrugs like she stares away honey so in court. Judge takes into consideration. That peggy joe was never violent in any of these crimes And she never used a weapon never brandished. a weapon. Never threatened anybody and seemed you can have a bank just being like i want things yes. That's yes feel like. We shouldn't be telling everyone. I mean because if you don't know by now come on. Yeah and they have to give it to you. You're going to get caught because they have everything but but you can a. She never used a weapon and other than that. She seemed to be a mild mannered law-abiding citizens so she's given a thirty three month sentence and the first anyone that's never had a child that's two and a half years in jail. Yeah oh he's he's fifty four months old really. I don't you do the fuck and math for me. I came over here to visit. you clearly. have a very specific idea in mind. Peggy jo served her time without complaint. She doesn't her when her friends go to visit her in jail. She won't talked about having done it. She just is like how are you. What's going on with you. And kind of is just like not talking about it. And then when she's released she all she says about it is the she assures her family and friends that she won't ever do anything like that again. I pinky swear. Rob a fucking bank again. I promised that i won't. I won't commit a felony again in a wig mask cowboy had in as a man When she gets out she's approached by true crime author about collaborating to write her story and possibly turn it into a movie and she says no because she's the fuck and coolest person of all time. She said she just wants to put the whole thing behind her. And she doesn't she's like thinks that's lame so so let's talk a little bit about who peggy jo tallis's She was born in one thousand nine forty five and she grows up the youngest of three children in grand prairie. She's she's a well. Liked spirited free spirited child but when she's four years old her father dies from cancer. So that's one. Her mother gets a job as a nurse's aide to support the family. So i skipped this picture but this is her as a kid so after the tenth grade and we go through that so after the tenth grade though she drops out of school explaining to her mom that there's too much else to do in life than waste her days sitting in school. Yes girl yes gang. Well when i was like. I remember in sixth grade. My desk was by the window. And all i would stare out the window and go. What are they all doing out there. I was obsessed with what the town did while we were in school like all the adults are free to do whatever the fuck they want with. No kids around. Do you still get that feeling when you're out in the world like a tuesday afternoon. Yeah just like. I do whatever i know. Scott school still. I'm thirty eight i get. I do get that every once in a while here. Gratitude they'll never have to algebra again okay so so. She tells her friends and everyone knows about her. She's clearly a free spirit and she is all about adventure so she actually decides. Because it's like the early seventies. She decides to up and drive out to san francisco to see to see what's going on out there. Just a cultural revolution. The peggy jo. No big deal so she gets out there and when she comes back like a month or two later i think it was. She's got books. By laurence furlan getty like into the beat poets. She's like she's just all all about that. A kind of doing whatever you want living your life. So in her twenty twenties she gets her own apartment in north dallas and she works as a receptionist and at that job. She makes friends with the girl. She works with named cherry young and so the to spend evenings going out to bars and concerts and basically looking for more adventure. And peggy jo tells cherry. She doesn't really have any career goals at all. She doesn't really care about having a career and she's not interested in getting married doesn't care about having kids all she wants to do is have adventures so she basically says her plans to work just enough to pay the bills and then have a little bit leftover to go out and have fun. This is literally me until i was twenty nine years old. Hell yeah. I accidentally got like cool job. I know we're kind of doing it right now. Up don't tell them don't tell them. We basically robbed the bank. But you gave us the money so nicely. It seemed like you really voluntary about it. So thank you for being part of this emotional felony. She was obsessed with the movie. Butch cassidy and the sundance kitchen south a bunch of times and if you don't know because you're a millennial that is a beautiful and amazing hall newman and suck and robert redford movie about those two bandits. Who at the end of the movie. They go and re rob the same train that they've already robbed and therefore draw basically get into this huge gunfight and the very end spoiler alert. They jump off a cliff so but definitely see. You're thinking of thelma and louise. Oh shit so. This is a quote from skips article from cherry talking about her friend. Peggy jo quote. She told me she was saving a little so that she could someday go to. Mexico just live on a beach in a hacienda. and we're bathing suits night and day. She was beautiful. She was rambunctious and she told me she always told me that. Deep down she was wild at heart and that was very true because one night piggy joe and cherry got into a fight at a restaurant they were like out for the night and fort worth and you guys know what it's like to party in fort worth so much that you fight with your friend and walkaway. I've just say sorry. But i like. I ate an apple before i notice. I stop spitting spitting so much guys in the back. Trust me on this. I'm spitting okay. Okay so they get into a fight in fort were at this bar restaurant in forward fort worth and then they both walk away from each other really fast and jerry just walks in one direction and peggy. Joe walks out into the parking lot. And there's a truck sitting there with the keys. Ignitions she just gets into it and drives away. Yes yes that's what she's like. Wow vichy's my fucking hero. So when she she gets arrested for that she actually gets a police case. Cancer can't do that. Can't take that guy's trout. He won't have it not in fort worth she gets arrested. She's given five months probation for that. So sometime in the mid seventy s she meets a man and he lives in a different town and she fought she falls in love with them and it. It's like he's the one so one day she goes to meet him and she goes to see him in that town and when she gets there his car on the street and so she thinks. Oh yeah period. I'm gonna go see and gets out of her car and walks over and as she's walking toward the car she sees a woman. Go get into the car herself and she walks up goes. What are you doing. And she was well. I'm getting into my husband's car. And that's how she finds out. This motherfucker was married. The whole time. Fucking married ben. What a crock of shit. Okay just keep that in mind youngsters please please. I'm begging you. after that. she decides she tells cherry. I'm fucking never doing that again. Like i'm never going to be hurt again. And she decides she's just to spend time with her family and take care of her mother who had just been diagnosed with that bone disease. So that's that's this. Oh that's her later. Shit sorry got it so okay. So when peggy joe is in her forties she's gets a really bad back injury and then a little bit after that she's forced to have an emergency mista me so that's when she realized after that those kind of really scary life threatening situation. She realizes that she hasn't really done as much as she's wanted to do with her life and she always thought i'll do. I'll do it later. I want to have an invention. I want to be that kind of person. But do i have to do it later. And now she's in her forties realizing that she doesn't make enough money. Her mom doesn't make enough with social security for them to cover these medical bills and the cost of living. And that's when the string of bank robberies again serve. It all comes together in the perfect storm of nfl beard. Um and so now we're go back to the present after she's been arrested so they released from jail and They move she moves so basically she just has to get out of town because the neighbors are talking about her. And it's like your big joe. So does cowboy bob. She moves her mom into a small two bedroom house in garland to get away and she becomes a cashier at the harbor. Bay marina at lake. Ray hubbard so apparently everyone there loves her. She's the coolest person ever she. Anybody that that they interview for this article. They just have nothing but nice things to say about her. She's kind she's a model employee. She even uses her own money to help poor customers pay for whatever they're trying to buy bait and whatnot stuff you're by the lake necessities She works all day and then she goes home and tends to her mother at night and in two thousand to her mother. Helen passes away at the age of eighty three. So in spring. Two thousand. And four peggy decides. She's going to get the adventure that she'd been looking for and she buys herself an rv because a guy at the marinas selling his rv for fifty nine hundred dollars and so she's like. I got some cash hidden away under beard. Oh did she. Okay so i'm sure. They seized all shirt money. They could but i would hope that she would stick some like in the bathroom back. Unders tampon box or somewhere. They wouldn't look now. Everyone knows where to look in your house. Just all sorts of there's no tampons there's tons of cash it's all sides. So her plan is she's going to save up a little bit more money in little time and then she's finally going to and move down to mexico and live on the beach like she's always wanted to do all her life and she tells a friend she wants to do it now quote before life runs out on her so she sells offer furniture. She moves out of the house in garland starts living in that. Rv so she's basically like. I'm going to get a little more money before i go. And in late summer of two thousand and four. She hits the road. She doesn't tell anyone where she's going or if she plans on coming back doesn't the family. Her older sister died of cancer. Also so she really doesn't have much family left except for her brother pete and she just kind of a piece. I'm doing this thing. Do you think she's mad at him for accidentally turning her in a used car thing. That doesn't seem to be what peggy joe's lake nona so no one really knows where she is for the next couple of months but they say they spot her they spot the in different places around town and she's oftentimes camping out like lakes and camping areas. Just chilling out in the rv. She likes to have a smoke every once in a while so in october. Two thousand four an older man in dark floppy hat baggy clothes and gloves robs the guarantee bank on the south side of the city but gets away without a trace and one teller tells the fbi agent. That's investigating that. She was surprised that when the man spoke he had such a high pitched voice. Shot your base. She promised everyone she wouldn't do got out tari. She's a free spirit. But at this point. Agent steve powell is retired. He lives on his ranch and he's the only one that would know what that meant and all the new younger the young guns are like all right. Cool we're looking for a guy with a high voice. Let's do this so through late. Two thousand four and early two thousand and five her pace. Joe's family only hears from her from time to time from payphones around the city and then on thursday may fifth two thousand and five. Peggy joe thomas. What's on a black a big wet today. Oh my god oh happy. Cinco de maya away. We ball we really see. That's the noise. You're making how weird that is out of the blue to us. That's i like. They're doing something a bit of a good thing. I was like someone puked again. Well we're going to have to get through it. Snap snap snap snap. Someone puked date was amazing. Heroes i'll say that again the way it should and then on thursday may two thousand and five piggy joe us puts on a big black straw hat and a large pair of sunglasses. She parks her. Rv in jack in the box parking lot across from that same guaranty bank that she had just been robbed the previous october and she walks inside. She asks the tailor to hand over the cash and she walks out like she's done so many times before but this time she does not notice the dye. Pack that the teller puts into the cash and as she gets outside that deepak explodes red ink all over her. And the puff of red smoke goes up into the air. It's like an arrow pointing to the cursor So she basically tries to like speed walk with me. Red with red smoke coming out from behind her dollar bill trailing half my money bomber that's trailing behind her so now witnesses a person walking out of a bank with red eye over the place and they're like did do do do do to everybody calls the cops the are already in the neighborhood because they have been investigating the bank robberies that have been happening in that area and so they immediately are there and they basically get to that jack in the box. Parking lot as peggy. Joe is pulling out in the rv so now we are in a low speed police presence of okay so this rv cannot even reach the speed limit when she gets onto the highway on the minimum limit. So she starts. She tries to get on the highway to get away. It's not happening. So she pulls off and goes into a residential area like sidestreets yes. I'll lose them in this humongous giant two story car so pretty soon. The police are able to boxer in and surround the vehicle. And of course they're like you're surrounded. Come out with your hands up. They don't know who's in this. Are they have no idea. And there were theories that they were gangs going around and robbing these banks and they were people working in teams. So they're like off if it's an rv there. Bunch of people are in there. Probably so peggy jo stands up. She pulls the curtains and she goes and sits back at the table and she fucking smoke sake and tries to make decision about what she's gonna do. It's important to have a curtains and a table in your car. That's right thank and convenient yet so good for thinking. Then she played played solitaire. All the stuff people do in. Rv's thaw so nothing happens for like ten minutes and of course the cops are like the hand it's getting more and more tents so what she finally makes. You puts out her cigarette and she makes her decision. She goes into her bedroom and she picks up a toy gun and she walks out to the front of the rv and opens the door. One more cigarette and think about that for a little longer. Hope which one are you gonna. That's video of it happening polish. That was on the news. So that's her leaning out of the rv door talking to the cops as a woman like she take her as herself. she took over. I think she has. The hat is on like that's the floppy hat and sunglasses but okay wasn't passing them notes or anything. She was just like it's me so the police are shocked to see a sixty year old woman standing in the doorway of the of the bank robbers. Rv and she says to them you're going to have to kill me and they say we're not gonna do that. Just put put the gun down and come out. That doesn't have to be that way. And she says to them quote. You mean to tell me if i come out of here with a gun and pointed at y'all you're not gonna shoot me and the cop that's closest to her says do not raise that gun. Please just put it down on. Come out she doesn't she steps out and raises the gun and peggy. Joe telesis shot four times and killed on site. Oh my god. Then the police throw a can of tear gas into the rv getting ready for the fuck and bank robbery gang that they think is having their grandma drive them around are are their prep for accomplices. As well. they should be but instead they find the empty rv. This snubbed out cigarette. And when they go into her bedroom they find her three fifty seven magnum that she actually owned that she left inside so the fbi wreck they all those agents that were there. Do the record check. They realized that the dead woman is no anais. None other than peggy. Joe tireless cowboy bob. So they call agent. Steve powell retired agency powell and leave him a message saying we have some bad news for you. And when saying they have some bad news about his old nemesis and when he calls back he just says say it isn't so do you think they had fallen way lightly. Because that's why would you be so passionate to catch somebody. it was like. Oh my god and then. He's also questioning his sexuality which is hot. Yeah maybe. I like beards. He thinks to himself secretly. I never knew that. About my zion. Glue on her upper lip and then he's like into glue. That's what i like lab sniffing glue. I've never been able to really unlike like god so this is a. This is a quote from escapes article from her friend. Cherry again quote might kreider miss. Sometimes i can't get over the sadness that she's gone but then i think about her walking out of that bank sixty years old that bag full of money and i have to say that she went out doing what she loved. Robbing fucking robbing thuc and banks. What the fuck will never understand it. But she was doing what she loved. I wish i could writer a note and say good for you. My sweet peg. Good for you i tell you. This is my favorite person of all fucking time. When i tell you because listen and i think we all know this. It's the way this society is setup is kind of scam in lots of different ways especially the banking system medical the medical system the banking system visibility of women over the age of twenty fucking seven. Right the whole fucking thing. Why not you can suck in. Listen if you can take advantage of the things that normally oppress you and turn them around and get three thousand four hundred seventy three dollars so without hurting anyone without threatening anyone without making it traumatic in any way you flunking get that paper girl all right just saying i'm very inspired just saying are we bank robbers now. I mean we'd have to think of something different because pay garrity did it. But just old everyone. They wouldn't tell us they won't tell okay. So then i searched our email and found an email that someone wrote in to us. Yes and it starts like this dear all or should i say y'all longtime listener first time to get my lazy ass to finally right this email honestly. I can't believe. I did it on a monday but here we are is this. Is this from her baggage. Oh oh good sounds like i. I grew up in a small town in north texas called. Rockwall it's it. Sits on the outskirts of dallas and is surrounded by a very large man made lake that is used on the rig for speedboats fishing jet skiing etc. There are a few marinas along. the water's bank but one was the most popular mainly because the woman. Peggy who ran the bait and convenience shop located on site was pretty legit. She was pleasant friendly and would even spot you. If you're a little short on docking fees mostly the younger crowd populated dislocation as it was also easy at the time to score some cheap beers although we were under a so fucking piggy. Just like you can have it. Go ahead smoke smoke smoke. Don't tell your mother from me. Flash forward a number of years and my boyfriend was a habitual wake border and was on. the lake. daily received a text from an old friend mentioning that little. Peggy joe from the marina had died while she didn't just die she was shot and killed by the fbi sh- little. Did anyone know peggy. Joe thomas was another character that was well known in the eyes of the law and she basically goes on and explains word for word. Exactly what i just said and basically it ends with its inevitably. She died at the scene which was discovered after the handgun was a child's toy. And all the it's very sad because also all the cops an agents that were there they were like there was nothing that indicated that gun was a toy at all. sometimes they have like the orange safety caps and show that they were It was a lot of them. Were super fucked up about eilly. Cool thing she did suicide by cop clearly not she was like. I'm fucking butch cassidy in this thing. And it was her choice to do so a last line is pretty crazy shit for a small texas town. But then again i guess. Sometimes that's the best place to hide. Hope to make it to the austin show in november. Jk jk just saw already sold out. We should go back in time a ticket. Ssd gm page and that is the insane story of the bank robber. Peggy jo tiles back in love her epic so epic amazing great job. Thank you i. I know that one wasn't like i usually like to do a lot. More jokes. thuc. I don't know i just think that's so. There's something about that story that's so awesome. It's like a person like it's never over. You can try to felonies and stuff that you can. You can do whatever you want at any stage of life you do it. You can reinvent yourself you can reinvent yourself you cannot reinvent yourself and do what you love to do in your twenties. Yes yes bank. Why fucking not them care. And that's that you delivered idea. Like everyone was on the edge of their see. I am never heard that story before so it was still one of my favorites. I'm so i can't believe we never posted that whole episode. I'm so glad to bring breathe life back into that we can look. These quilts are more than just such Me neither vacation in ventura not there. It's not just vacation it's actually. Ria and then for the hometown. What should we do now. The hometown is going to be from a show that we did in december eight of twenty seventeen so if you were at the saint louis missouri show that we did at the powell symphony hall. You will remember this story. That mindy told us how she was pregnant and now her kid is three four. I dunno math is a toddler for years. Old thank you. That's gone crazy all right or going to be for this year. An and the ninetieth percentile. We're guessing so. Enjoy this story from mindy. Let's tell them about this. Oh yes okay so we. I was going to a little while. I wanted my big thing to be that i was going to buy a blouse in the casino clothing store. They always have those like they're just like three things of each color. Like come on if you spill something on your tongue. So i went in there as positive is gonna do it and the only black shirt they had had these big white rings that were cut through so that your skin would. I simply can't do that. But then we just started actually shopping around the store and they had some they had some pretty good stuff so we were like okay. We're going to. We're going to a home hometown. Let's get this insane gift for the hometown person. We got a little hometown murder. Model it for the front while you tell them what it is. This is a gorgeous piece. This is probably from the sixteen. Hundreds i would think real diamonds diamonds and probably jade also. What's nice is that the actual reading finger part is it's stretchy like a watch so it's gonna fit anybody and essentially. It's an octopus with a diamond encrusted arms. Holding fish with a diamond. I oh it's classic it's beautiful. I'll start the bidding at two dollars. The best thing about it is the fishes screaming and terror. His mouth is open and his i. Is this big or guy this is. This is a violent moment captured in jade. And we can't wait to give it to ever has now. Let me tell you really quickly the rules of hometown this just that we've developed over live shows you've hear- heard me say this if you've ever listened to live show you can't be so drunk that you lose your place in your own story. We love if you're drunk. And god bless but this is You got to deliver the narrative. It's important beginning middle end. It's good that it's from saint louis so everybody can know it nat fun with that. I think missouri. John close by close by certainly. Don't go out of state. what was the third one. Just give it your all. Does that was it. just kidding. you're on the you're on. The it's your thing georgia's pin picking some great ones lately so don't let her down okay. Who has a hometown. Yeah yeah yeah events right there. But what's exciting about. This is that she's already one that ring. Yeah that ring is yours. You can start planning outfits around just as you walk. Think about what you're gonna wear. I absolutely should have changed. Go there. We go over there to their steps. It's nothing mayhem in here. Yeah i i should have been invited someone. There's a sign up there. My god said scott murdered. Oh shit there's a light up sign in the very back. That says i almost got murdered. Send this girl okay. Here she comes hand everywhere. You go highway mindy mindy everybody else going. It's great how are you humanity know. Okay okay. also i'm pregnant. You guys always talking about pregnant. People didn't want say anything blocking the island. Curry up really awesome shirt that my husband bought me through arts. Two year anniversary we really like star. Wars is no boone okay. I'm glad you're actually pregnant. That's really where you from actually from core local. It's about fifteen minutes down forty from here for its west county we. You spell it c. R. e. c. e. You are picturing. something hurt some though. It's in saint louis. We have this thing where there's all kinds of french words that we say wrong. Oh nice so it should be core meaning broken heart by but we say because that's how we do we'll good you support one hundred percent so i i'm here with my sister-in-law who came all the way from vegas and her friend. Who's my cat. They're they're sitting right behind your uncle. We're sitting here him. what's her murder. Okay so you wanna talk about your family more. I mean it's it also report okay. And so when i was in second grade i was friends with this girl going to not say her real name. She's real person. So i'll just call julie and julia and i were real tight or hanging out all the time. She was real chooser quirky girl. She liked nasa thought she was going to be master She's dental but anyway so so i was always going to her house and she had this house that my parents called it the compound because her mom lived there in both of her grandparents. And then her mom's friend and okay so it's nineteen eighty-seven so eighty s and not a lot of people were divorced. Then so i'm like mom what's up with. What is the friend. And my mom's. Don't worry about it. But i kept asking about it. I'm like seven years old and finally she's like okay mindy. She doesn't have a dad's boyfriend. And i was like okay. We'll where's your dad and my mom's like came mindy you're sending you're old enough to know her by kilter dad. I always like that. He's at the house. And i'm always there and we're hanging and she had these was one of these amazing families where you go there and there was always a project like we would for her birthday. I would like sit on her grandpas lap and he would help me iron. These bows that we were making big. Eighties bourgeois her headbands. And so we would be doing this. And i'm hanging out with grandpa. And i'm like okay this murdering. Isn't that big a deal because hanging out with them and so anyhow unlike her mom would sit at the piano and they were all sing together was like so creating this like this very happy family picture right and i'm like it's only the grandpa like fine. Whatever and so A seven year old. Yeah so anyway. A couple nights ago. I knew i was coming here so i was like the parents. You need to get this story straight at my dad's a lawyer and he's like okay. So here's the real deal would happen was when julie was five. She started reporting to her mom and grandparents that she was being sexually abused by what was heard divorced. Dad and the mom and the grandparents were like. We can't have this but they eighties enjoying about it. So he's still had visitation rights. Whatever so they plan this thing. We're when he came back they were in the kitchen. And the grandpa's stabbed him in my dad's words probably a bunch of times kitchen knife worn done yet because then the whole family probably not including julie comes together and they shop him up into little pieces policy. I told you piano thing red flag. I told you you're pushing it. You're pushing trying to put this show on. So they put him in a bag and we were talking about this in the car. We decided he had to be chopped into little pieces because he might not have fit in the bag they had specifically picked so then they drive out on like family road trip to saint. Charles you guys know which by the way is where i work and they drive that just being charles they find like a back road and they just bury in there and then they go about living their lives and one day some guy and i guess he was a hunter with doger's thing and he found the body and calls the police and they put this all together and they figure out this. This is julie's dad. And so they show up at the compound which is just starting for but they show up there and they are like what does happen here and the whole families like we have no idea what you're talking about and so just became british beaumont so my according to my dad who knows this from like lawyers and other lawyers. Apparently they like systematically would pull like each member of the family in jail them for forty eight hours and like grill them. Nobody would break. Everybody had no idea what happens so they would do this for months and months like they would hide this from julia. Somehow and so this. This has started when she was five. We're the same age so seven second grade. It's still happening like the whole family. Still living in the house there are still. Police are stocking and bothering them all the time. They can't get anything out of them and my dad. Meanwhile is going to these lawyer like corporate parties. He sees her grandparents and her parent there. They're all hanging out. I'm going there all the time it turns out. My parents know that this family like shop this algorithm somewhere. And they're like sending me over there all the time. Sounds like a really safe place honestly. Nobody's going like the safest place in little girl could be so i guess at some point. Her grandpa decided that he would agreed to. He's like. I didn't do it but i'm going to plead his second degree murder so that you'll leave my family alone. So they came to some agreement that if he was there in jail for seven years then when it was all over they would leave the whole family alone and at that point julius which schools we didn't see them anymore. And i'm like i go to college come back and waitressing at the whittaker's pizza and And i weighed on their family. And it's the mom and the grandparents and obviously meanwhile. I don't know all that happened. Whatever and they're all happy in the moms like trying to get me to take a class that she teaches and the grandparents are like updating me and juliet telling me how everything's going and everything is all good so anyway so when i'm asking my parents about this i'm like wait. You knew the whole thing. When i was seven and you sent me over there repeatedly and they were like well. We need be safe. Oh eighties parents neighbor. No shame regarded. Shoot me that was amazing. Now i don't mind getting chopped up. No we've heard much worse. Look what you just get here. Okay can you describe what you're seeing the people right now. I don't know if i could do a better job than you guys. Don't see later. Okay lime green and it's almost as if this thing is wearing a it's oh he's he has the fish looks like he's wearing the fish fish ring maybe the fishes yes so every yellow activist is wearing a ring. And so am i. That's better than the fish killed. Thank you all right. Thanks mindy way to go. And for our fucking. Hooray we wanted to recognize and Shout and give some support to are texas murdering knows and everyone in town. We know you guys down. There are really going through up some really heavy shits. It's really heavy to see the news coming out of texas. It's really horrible to see so. Many people stranded abandoned not have food not have water leg. It's just kind of insane and we're really feeling for you and especially because and we used to talk about this early days. That texas murderer knows showed up early and strong and then they are network when they first started giving us the numbers and telling us like where where the populations of murdering knows where they were just like texas all over texas. We were like what really in hate our guts. Okay and in fact you love us and we love you. So we're going to donate ten thousand dollars to the texas relief fundraiser So that you guys get taken care of Because you deserve it and the name of we're going to donate that money in the name of the murderer knows of texas. Yep so thanks you guys were thinking of you and fuck hold on tight and Take care of each other. Yeah definitely yeah so thanks for listening. Thanks for being here. Take care of yourself. It's bumpy out there. It's been a bumpy year. But look at you you got through it. You're still here a year later. And and king were continuing on. We're just gonna keep plowing through because that's what we do you know. And that's you'll find some light. Take that out that you'll find some light at the under disgusting the dark ugly tunnel. The so. Take care of yourselves guys. Yep and stay sex. And don't get murdered goodbye elvis. Do you wanna cookie.