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"packers vikings" Discussed on Biz Talk Radio
"They're in a very tough conference because that'll lead us to a game that I just was absolutely in love with all weekend was the Packers Vikings game I'll remember in the first round of this year's draft, the Packers drafted a Q B, which everybody said This is going to cause a huge controversy amongst Aaron Rodgers. Not so Aaron didn't get the memo, apparently and showed up as the MVP Q B that Aaron Rodgers absolutely is. Don't count that guy out. The Packers ended up beating the Vikings in a shoot out with Kirk cousins. 43 to 34 amazing game. Aaron just was picking people apart, throwing four touchdown passes so amazing game there loved watching the games. Great to see Aaron Rodgers. All that drama was put aside and sent on its way and Aaron's prevailed again. When you look at that conference that NFC is just tough. Especially with Chicago being strong with that amazing defense. Green Bay You could never sleep Hungering Bay in Minnesota always shows up to games, putting 34 points in the bird Board Bird on the board with the amazing quarterback Kirk cousins. You know you used to see so much they're so was an interesting take. I think a lot of people out there were pleasantly surprised to see that turned into a shootout, especially see Aaron Rodgers and how he responded. To so much of the offseason drama talk. Everybody put out there on. Of course, there's the A F C East and it can't go without saying the Buffalo Bills played just the poured New York Jets. And, of course, this It's kind of like watching a Browns game. You almost know the results. But you like maybe hope for something good. And, of course, the near Jets lost. To their upstate rival in New York, 27 17 starting the season off one, which sounds like every Jets fan because it's hard to get excited about that lineup. Just interesting lots of drama taking place on that team. You hope to see for the better when it comes to that team, But I think the fans are in for a long, long season. I think the bills are the team that people should be paying attention to. Besides what's going on in a SEC East with our friends over at New England, you have to keep in mind that they haven't had anybody on this way in a long time, so this will be this is exciting to see. These results for this team going down the list of what was a stunner to me, and I think next week we're gonna have a special co host. But stuttered to me was watching the Washington D C football team. I love that, Remember, they no longer are known as the Redskins. They did do a name change. They had an amazing game verse. The Philadelphia Eagles, their neighbors to the north drove down on the bus. Popped into the stadium, and it's up spotting a huge lead on top of the team from Washington and Washington, charged back and won the game. 27 17 leading a lot of questions and the confidence in Carson wins and this Philadelphia Eagles team. Remember, the Eagles are just a few years removed from voicing that Super Bowl trophy and seemed to have hit this just losing streak. That is just disgusting to see a very talent team with a very good coach. Very good, Big Carson wins fan here and Carson just hasn't looked the same. And this D C team just got shocked and was like, Hey, we're gonna learn how to play football and they have that feel good story. You've got to remember Washington was able to bring back The great Alex Smith was able to return. So it's been good to have Alex Smith back. But again, that was a stunner. Now moving on to quarterbacks resurrecting their careers, you had the coltsfirst The JAG wires, and the Colts have a new quarterback this year from San Diego. You've got the great Philip Rivers, who brought over his football team that he has himself with his gigantic family. The man has Good to see Philip that Philip Rivers out there doing his thing. Unfortunately, the same results that he saw when he was in San Diego the last few seasons. They end up losing the game to the Jacksonville Jaguars. 27 2 20. So hopefully I didn't miss. How can I forget why I brought up? Thursday night's game. So before we head to commercial as a reminder, the Browns played the Ravens and the Ravens win the team that was shocked us. They ended up losing in the playoffs so early and wasn't a Super Bowl favorite, cause We definitely saw them going to the Super Bowl. Instead, we didn't get that we got the chief's. The Ravens played the Browns and the Browns. Will the Browns Showed up like the Browns, and the Ravens steamrolled them. 38 26 Baker Mayfield look just rushed everywhere. It was going dominated up and down the field on defense and on offenses passes were just everywhere. And, of course, Lamar Jackson just knows how to run that offense. And Baltimore Baltimore is a team that you cannot sleep on last season. People have them as front runners this year. They're in the playoffs. Talk. A lot of people are predicting it's going to be the Chiefs of the Buccaneers. And I want your thoughts on that when we come back from the break. Let me know why you're watching Simi Simi a tweet. Eric, tell Mitchell Do you think it's going? Do you think the Ravens have a chance this season to make it? To the championship game. You think that could make it to the Super Bowl? We're going to talk about that. When we come back, we're gonna get ready for Thursday night's game. 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MNF Recap Packers Vikings; Beastmode returns
"The packers certainly did not blow the doors off the Vikings Aaron Rodgers and company. They you know. They struggled for large portions of this game on offense against a good vikings demon in a very difficult place to play. But I think the story of this game really will be what a massive egg. The Vikings Kings laid an Wessel. Start with you I know you and I have had our disagreements with Kirk cousins and the Vikings were blamed should be assessed when the vikings go wrong and this does not make me the winner that argument you're right and everything he said it was all right. Dan is declared the winner. Now that is that is not true because a lot of people people didn't show up in this game it's certainly not kirk cousins either seven first downs for Minnesota and four quarters the fewest home game by this organization since Nineteen seventy-one Avenue. One Keith. Hands US was a junior at Clarkston high school at that time senior clocks down high. The man's grandfather. Wes speak to it. Come on Kirk cousins. Put the team on your back when they need you. Well like I said on Thursday you and I see more IDA. I'd on this than than it seems like. I don't care what his record is on Monday night football that is immaterial it like somehow nine Monday night games are better than than Sunday games. I might have been true in one thousand nine hundred three three. I don't think that's been true lately. Thirdly we've seen this before he didn't come up. When the redskins needed a late season victory he didn't come up big when the Vikings of two thousand eighteen needed a late season victory and he didn't come up big tonight and like you said the blame can be assessed to a running game? That didn't exist. An offensive line that got worked over by the packers Akers front seven a defense that got some turnovers but also allowed one hundred and fifty yards to Aaron Jones. A coach who punted down thirteen with three and a half minute or four minutes left in the game. There's a lot of blame to go around but I you cannot escape. The Kurt cousins led an offense that had seven first downs. And like you said since one thousand nine hundred seventy. One was the last time that happened in Vikings home game. This is one of the most disappointing performances. Any team is head all
"packers vikings" Discussed on GSMC Football Podcast
"With me once again is my friend, Mike colleague, my partner in crime. Mark Souza has gone, my friend. It's going good, man. The the weekend holiday weekend was nice nice to get out of town. Eat some good food hang out with family and friends so feeling good. Yes. Very good. Very good. We have lots to talk about in the world of football. Now. Don't we a few things happen? I think since last time that we convened what was it on the ones. I know you had your show on Friday but Thursday thanksgiving football. And then, of course, the crazy football action this last week, and especially in college. Yes. Absolutely. In college. We have a lot of talk about there. But we'll get into the NFL first. And then we'll go to college because we have something subway on the week twelve match ups that happened in the National Football League. We'll start off with you know, let's start with one the games of the week the Packers. Vikings Sunday night football in Minnesota takes the victory here. Twenty four to seventeen Kirk cousins at three hundred and forty two yards and three touchdowns. No interceptions in near perfect game. A one twenty nine point five quarterback rating with Aaron Rodgers not having a on paper. Not having a great game. But still played pretty solid. He only went seventeen twenty eight one hundred ninety eight yards and a touchdown. But it was it was he was doing his best to help this team. Stay in the game. And he was doing that is only so much. You can do quarterbacks are the most important players. But they can't do it all so that's what we saw yesterday with Kirk cousins getting help from his friends and Aaron Rodgers not getting the same support. That's what I saw at least. Yes. Absolutely. And overall like the Packers are not looking too good right now to make the playoffs. I think it's a lost hope. Oh, yeah. And four six in one. Yeah. And this and this puts Mike McCarthy on the hot seat. Yeah. That seats getting warmer by the week. Isn't it? Yeah. So we saw. Aaron Rodgers duty could but going back to what I was saying Minnesota, I mean, Stefan digs Adam feeling dalvin cook. I know there are some good offenses in the NFL, Jeff. But that's pretty that's good of a trio as I think that there is. I mean, yes, Kelsey, hunt and hill or very good. You have guys like Thomas Ingram and Kamara in Orleans. You have girly cooks and Robert woods in Los Angeles. And of course, the Steelers James Connor Smith Schuster Antonio Brown. You got to think that the Vikings. They gotta be up there in terms of having those like those weapons right there that that trio can go up with the other best trios in the NFL when she say oh without question. And this trio just seems to be lacklustre almost any. It's it's not getting the job done like because there's still not in the first in their division. The bears are still up there. And honestly, if they have a shot to make the playoffs they'll have to get I in the business, though, do you think that the this tree it now Phelan's been as consistent as pretty much anybody in the last this last here this season, but digs has had some ups and downs. Cook has been hurt most of it. But do you think that the Vikings offense play calling has been a big reason of their struggles? Or do you think it's Kirk cousins problem? We'll causes had a good game three hundred yards this game. But like guest, I think we both agree..
"packers vikings" Discussed on GSMC Sports Podcast
"That's happening. This week Packers. Vikings a bigger our rate. But when you're looking at this robbery, it is not the same as it used to be. When I mean by that is the Vikings are struggling even with Kirk cousins. And everyone thought Kirk cousins would be that guy that would put them over the top put them in that civil contending spot. But at five four in one I mean, that's disappointing. My opinion this team coming off nearly a Super Bowl appearance too. Like kinda lackluster my opinion five four and one they should be doing a lot better than that. And with Green Bay. Four five and one. But Aaron Rodgers has nineteen touchdowns and only one interception. How does that work? I tell you how it works guys around Rogers are not playing to that level. They are not complimenting waters there helping Rogers it's no-one to blame except there. You cannot blame Aaron Rodgers. Will you can't blame everyone else around him coaching defense receivers running game you name it like he's doing what he can't help them win. And they're just not giving it back to them. And Mike McCarthy is on the hot seat. Yes. So do I think is fired by the end the season. Yes, I do. And if he doesn't win this game against the Vikings. I think it's a foregone conclusion you'll get fired. But if he wins if he finishes with a winning record, maybe he stays. But I think that with even what what possibly nine six and one being what they can do the best. They can do is ten five and one. But if they go even nine six in one, I think it's so disappointing year. I don't think they make the playoffs that kind of record. But I think this is the McCarthy's last year. I think he's had so much talent rhino making only win one Super Bowl, and he's kind of been choking the playoffs ever since two thousand ten civil run. So yeah, I but to say who wins this game, given the. Things. I know they both. They both teams. I'm playing non very well. But I'll take the Vikings definitely in this one. Just because I think everyone around Kirk cousins, I think they're better than what a-rod was has run him. And finally, we got the ooh that's on Monday night. I almost hit it. I wanted to talk about the Hines in taxes. But that is a Monday night game. We will get on that on Monday. So we'll go right into the college football world. And obviously there's one game we need to talk about more than the others. Not that the others aren't important. But this game just I think trumps everything else. I think in Trump's the iron bowl to be honest. But I think the iron bowl just because an are ranked, but we are Michigan versus state the game. And the thing is with Michigan is they Jim Harbaugh's not being urban Meyer since he started with the Michigan wolverines when he first took that job. And if that streak continues he cost his team a playoff spot. He loses the playoffs. And. That's get a hurt his legacy. I think. When I mean by that is he's been here for a long time. Now, he's recruiting classes always been stellar since. He's is everyone's to play for them. And I get that. But you gotta look at like you got to do something with that. And looking into this game here. This is a must win for both teams. Obviously, I think stay still has a chance to make into the playoffs. Sure. But this is a more of a must win from Michigan than Israel. How state? This is more win for Jim Harbaugh. This is Jim a- game. Shimon Harbaugh has to win. I don't think as any choice in the matter is listed this game. Then this could be questions about his coaching a questions about his legacy and a question. Can you win the big one? So that's the huge thing. But do I see Michigan winning? This is a very good chance. This is at Ohio stadium in Columbus. Which gives the Ed edge to Ohio State shirt. But I still think Michigan has more to lose than Ohio State does. And so they're gonna be playing much harder. And they're going to give everything more on the field. More risks on the field than Ohio stay will. And I think that's where it's get a I think that's where it's going to play a factor in who's taken this one so giving Michigan and giving Jim Hall balls. I win over urban Meyer. But this game is so it's the game of the year for people. This is like a holiday, Michigan and Ohio State. The greatest rivalry in college sports..
"packers vikings" Discussed on Nickel Package
"I mean, they're mostly trash to be quite Frank. Get in trouble. But yeah. I think it's okay. I think you're safe saying that bills two axes not going to be a barn burner. Seahawks. Panthers has big implications for me, personally, my happiness. And but also the teams Packers Vikings is essentially elimination game in the playoffs. I feel like maybe that's overstating it. But it feels that way about can saints could be fun. He'll rivalry game. There's some juice here. Don't be a pitch man from the league. Oh, yeah. Pitch me bills. Jags. Titans. Actually, a pretty meaningful one to. Yes. And bill. Jags could be a barn burner. If like people, burn Barnes, and anger. You know, I'm at Barclays is what I thought he was buying come back and be Montana. Where are these? Are they in buffalo or in Jacksonville doesn't both here in Florida, the prefabricated plastic barns? But you can get at like, a Home Depot or other fine retailers like the she Shan, something like, the, she shed. And that commercial where I'm pretty sure there's insurance fraud being committed if we could give something like that like, and they are on fire for a myriad of reasons. But it could be because the bills offense is bad. And it's fun to talk about the bills offense being bad until bills fans. Get mad at you on Twitter, and that's. Yeah. His back. So that's actually interesting. Yes. Began fans mad at. Texas titan. So like, so I'll be the pitch man for ESPN proper football. And it is a good game. I feel like there should be a segment on the show called catching L's. That's just me catching ELS because I was listened. I'll come clean. I was seduced by the titans largely because they beat the patriots. It was a it was an error in judgment. You know, you have a little bit too much drink out late one night certain things happen. I was also seduced by the phrase tighten up just because I love saying it. So I catch some ELLs on over hyping titans. But anyway, so those are the game. So yeah, great. Thanksgiving are mostly trash mischievous night. We'll talk about the bears, but I wanna talk about this new paradigm. And I thought you know, like a lens that we could use to talk about it was to talk about the best teams in the NFL. I had a show a few scaling FOX. Worth where we talked about the worst teams in the NFL, and but you're much better than him. So I felt like I had to my out of my shell. Let's talk that's key listened to the let's talk about the cream of the crop of the league. And so I think, you know, Patrick, you probably agree with me that there are three teams that are much better than every other team right now, or that have kind of separated themselves from the pack, but I want I want you to just tell me who were like, how would you rank your top five teams in the NFL right now, I would start with with the three teams that I'm pretty sure we agree on the saints. The Rams and the chiefs just separated themselves. Order from from everybody else in the reason that the chiefs of fall behind the first two is their secondary particularly been we get into some conversational areas. And I think the chargers if I'm ranking my team off of potential off of what they can accomplish. I think they would be my fourth team in the Pittsburgh Steelers visiting and I choose not to have the patriots in this top five purely out of spite. No actually is more shocking than the patriot. We'll talk about the bears because here's my. Here's my ranking. Okay. I go saints Rams chiefs. Although honestly, I I think the Rams are basically interchangeable at this point. That was a take away. I had from the Monday night game. I was like these teams play ten times. The Rams went five chiefs win five. I don't think we all of art explosion. Yes. I could not take ten..
"packers vikings" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"Defenses are getting pretty overrated here is he losing his fastball? I don't know because to your point, I'm going to bet on Tom Brady here, but I'm not betting on Belgique when I'm saying they're going to be in the championship game, Tom Brady is going to have to overcome what didn't look like a very good defense. And it was the same defense. He almost overcame in the Super Bowl. And if you told me that the Philadelphia Eagles would roll up five hundred thirty eight yards and foles with dole for three seventy three and three touchdowns and they score forty one points in the Super Bowl. I would not have pick Tom Brady all all he did was throw for five. Oh five and score. Thirty three did have the big fumble at tight again. Well, he had one drop. So did he throw any interceptions in the Super Bowl? No, he did not. He. He is now played eight quarters in the last eight months against Jacksonville has thrown one interception against the Jacksonville, Jaguars as good as they are as severe as that pass rushes, they got the two best corners in tandem in pro-football. Has he throwing one interception in two full football games against Saxon Ville? Not one. That's pretty great. I thought he was good enough to win the game. I thought it would be a low scoring game. I thought it'd be twenty two seventeen New England, but I liked the way he played and he doesn't have anybody. And now he's got, he's got a symbol of the possible. Randy moss receiver. I don't know how fast the problem is. Randy moss came back in April. They got him in April. They had all of the off-season or the whole training camp, but Josh Gordon could be ran. Only problem is, is enchanted was it played eleven games James since thirteen? Eleven games. He can't stay on the field. I think New England hoping wish, but his track record tells you. I'm, I wish him nothing but the best. But if you ask me, do I think he's going to finish the year in New England. I say, no, that they'll be some issue where he doesn't show up late or something and these done there. You know if he late for meeting? Yeah, for practice, he. 'cause you're not gonna tolerate it? He won't. I got a feeling he's going to be really good. I hope so. I got a feeling Tom Brady's talented guy. I wanna love this city. I mean, he could be the difference maker and Julian Edelman in two more games will come back and all of a sudden that's his best target. And if he's got a wide out, it can run by people those guys defense but don't. Okay. So that's Jacksonville, skip Jacksonville will win, said matter with them. I mean, they they went to into in two thousand fourteen. They won to the went to into last year. They went to the different year. I'm Brady's forty one. Now, do you understand that Bob radio branding, keep you right? Fly on t. Playa by bring LeBron uses vibration, Tom Brady uses pliability, do you? Do you see LeBron posting videos? I am working out in a gym, bad lifetime. Ain't Mrs. Schott. Doug. It him and Ben Simmons. Really. So why hasn't he been scrimmaging with this team bit him in Cal Cal Koonce there right now? Really, he'd been posting that him coons really. Yep. All I hear is China one day Paris the next day, Las Vegas the next day. I'm never seen an itinerary in the offseason like LeBron James that six fifty g thinks, hey, you impaired one.
"packers vikings" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"John never talk about playing forty, five, none of these guys, but now because they're protected, they wanna play fitness because they discover pliability discover them to discover that the NFL with protect. This call because of time. But Tom didn't get a call golden boy. If you don't get any more call, took room, he don't need more calls recipes life. He got the party started. Dangelo thank you for being here and speaking of the patriots. Are they actually little vulnerable after that loss in Jacksonville will discuss that with rob Parker? What is he going to say? The patriots dropped to one and one after losing convincingly to the Jaguars thirty one twenty Sunday, Tom Brady, and the offense struggled scoring. Only three points in the first half. The defense wasn't much better giving up four touchdown passes to Blake Bortles and nearly five hundred total yards. Yesterday, Bill Belichick said, quote, we're better than what we showed rob Parker is back with us and rob if I had this right, you did have the Jags to win. So I was rush EDA's you gotta give me credit. I gave skip thirteen points. Thirteen of doing you got Brady again. What I was right Jacksonville was going to lose Gore's I said, who won the dinner off the game? Okay. You did, but I would win. The game was a fourteen point game almost entire wet. You've gotta give me Brady late touchdown, pass. It always have to take costly as. L. I just wanna come to this dinner wherever you make a plan. Owed me, twelve. We got here. ESPN and he I let him pay me off in one big expensive night. Okay. So now we start the clock ticking. Again, you're down one by the end of the season. I want to do this one. Let's go to miss the season, get it DOE. That's yes, we'll see, hopefully. Okay. How much trouble though are the patriots and sound the alarm? I've been telling you all cities sound the alarm because if you know this, the Jacksonville Jaguars I know it on the kryptonite, but a patriot law, Shannon, you sort of AFC championship game. They should. They will twenty two ten four quarter in Foxborough. Bortles who wait yesterday, but I mean Sunday but he couldn't. He couldn't get that big first down. They needed to keep moving the clock and the time and Brady beat them at the end. But I'm telling you this team tune? Oh, Jacksonville. Last year. Bortles had twenty one touchdowns. You already has five and all they need this guy to do not make the big mistake. Keep the clock running and they didn't even have four net, right? He didn't even play. They don't have their best receiver. Mckee's lean that this team is a good foot. Football team that I believe will represent the AFC last year. They were almost there. They couldn't get over the home this year. They get over the hump and I think that this will be. It's like a a as time goes on, you keep chipping away. I think they've chip chipping away chipping away at the patriots, and then they will be able to finally get there and beat them. I don't even know if the patriots going to be an AFC championship game. To be honest. I'm not really counting on them being an AFC championship game account on it, but I'm positive positive that the Jacksonville Jaguars book it. Okay. Going to represent the AFC Super Bowl, you. Minds without say, if Blake Bortles gonna play like Blake Bortles on sending Jeep. If they're good enough to be the Representative for the AFC and the Super Bowl, but I'm not as long disease. Jillian, Ataman. We'll be back in week five them citing Josh Gordon unless you know that coach villa check is willing to do whatever it takes. Now, coach shakes there, something that you don't normally hear him say he said, we'll lot better than what we showed normally just say, we got beating all three pages. He never lose to how good they actually are. I've never heard him say that. So unless you point it lets you know that he thinks he has a very good team. I'm not concerned at all Bill. Go fix now. The defend can't be any worse than what they were on Sunday. Can this get?.
"packers vikings" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"He will remind clubs that the penalty has been on the books for spore several years and is not considered part of this season's point of emphasis related to defensive players landing on the quarterback, which once again by Dangelo haw. All right. You buying that explanation. Thank you. You make anything you can interpret it any way you want to. And that's the problem with the NFL in general, when you make the rules and you're the appealing body that I have to go appeal to end of the day likely say they're going to, we're going to turn it in and they're gonna find a way to justify and I'm going to be wrong. I'm going to be wrong, is know about it. I'm going to be wrong, and I don't think it was a rough in the past. I've seen guys get get roughed before and it is an actual scoop. It is eight picking that guy up. It is throwing all your body weight on that guy. I didn't see at all we clay and that was, that's what's so frustrating. As some point you have to let the guys play football. I mean, we did sign up to play football. You have to let them play football and. Not becoming football anymore, turning into something else, a hodgepodge of seven, seven mixed with a little ultimate flag where you got showed a pass on. You can hit a little bit closer to the sideline, but this isn't football at this point, man, you gotta let these guys play football. So would you convince the hall of Famer sitting across from me, I can't convince him because he's office guy somehow find a way to say no. What what does this game revolve around the world. Exactly this out. Check this out. Would there ever be Tom Brady if Drew Bledsoe dig it hurt? No, no, probably not. So though I feel bad about a quarterback getting hurt is part of playing football. I get it if he gets hurt. Let's see how good your scout department was. Let's see how good your front office was and getting innovating by that. I understand that I understand Tom Brady, I understand they do. They do, but without Tom getting hurt, it was no Jimmy g..
"packers vikings" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"Your way to New England to go to work, you have no ego, you are faceless your nameless, your New England, Patriots. Forget the name this, what Josh Gordon has to do. He has to. He has a blank slate now what he had going on in Cleveland. Doing this, they brought we to clean. Don't come here with that bullishness the questionnaire skip, Josh Gordon does really well when he's playing football. Unfortunately, football is not a year round thing. They don't play football every every Sunday year round. What happens when he doesn't have the New England structure of the locker room of practice of meetings or being on a plane travelling to improve the games? What happens then give? I don't look just because I don't trust him. Tell people all the time just because I don't trust somebody that doesn't mean that you shouldn't maybe should be leery or I could pretty good Georgia character. But what he did in Cleveland maybe comes in and he'd be a model citizen in New England. I wouldn't be willing to run the risk, but I understand why New England you watch those receivers. Okay. Fortunately. So what did I tell both of you yesterday? I'm speaking with my heart, not my head. 'cause all your points are head points in. They're all well-taken. I don't disagree with one word either of you just spoke. But I said yesterday if I'm Jerry Jones, I risk of fifth round, pick high risk high reward to see if I could make something out of Josh Gordon for a football team that doesn't have a number one or a number two receiver. We've got a collection of threes at best, and maybe this could be your next Dez Bryant. And then what happened. I have to open up my computer in the middle of after noon and see that flashing breaking news headline and my heart. My heart falls in my stomach because it just makes me sick at my stomach. The plunger Jerry Jones sat on his laurels again, is hall of fame laws. He's all fame now. He doesn't need to do anything else, and I keep waiting for him to send one little message or one big message choose locker room. I'm all in for twenty. Eighteen we're close, so I'm gonna go get you Sammy Watkins. Nope, I came in second for Sammy Watkins. I'm gonna go get Earl Thomas. No, I offered it to, but then they jerk the rug out from under me and said, no, we wanna one, so I'm all out on that deal. Am I going to go get Josh Gordon for a five? No, I'm going to let Bill Belichick taken for five, and I agree with all your points. Obviously the structures in place where Josh has a long shot shot at making it in this league. That's where you'll make it with Tom Brady because he can't be on this ova. Okay. So I was close to the Randy moss situation when he was in Oakland. Again, this is back in two thousand six and he was just a disaster. He quit on them. It looked like he had quit on football. It looked like he's bodied given out. He was turning thirty years of age, and I thought he was flat out done. Maybe heart done with pro football. And what happened the next year? He winds up for nothing for a song. He goes to bell check and Brady, and the next thing I know records are falling like crazy, and he goes from catching. Touchdowns the year before to an NFL record twenty three touchdowns now is Josh Gordon Randy moss on the football field? No, because he can't run like that ran could run four. He's just fly high football IQ. Great, not good hands. Great hands. Josh has very good hands and he's more he's more you covered him more power Bill six, three to twenty five dollars. Turney hands like that to catch a football, but. Okay. Wrong. That's a bad. I hope. Woma around what he's doing. But I did like what rob Inc vich sit on w. a former patriot leader, these legal, and I'll just paraphrase quotes. But he said that he questions Josh's love for the game..
"packers vikings" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"They surprising to this day night easier. We have another team that needs a win, the Seahawks gone from contenders to one of the worst in the NFL hope. So you hope so. To see are now Owen to after losing on the road to the bears Russell. Wilson was six times after also getting sacked six times week one Wilson also through a pick six in the fourth quarter to seal the win for the bears and next up for Seattle. Well, skips Cowboys Sunday on fucks Shannon, how much trouble Seattle in. Told trouble. I don't know Vegas at eight games. There's no way they're winning games. Zero change. They win eight games their offense. Reliant is terrible. There's no way Russia can make it through the season at this place. Skip twelve sex already. He's been sacked the most. He's been in the league. Two hundred sixty sack sixty. No Doug ball with no running game. The defense stays on the field of awful. Lot skip. Can you? Can you believe this only three players from the starting that started against the patriots are still on the team? Yeah. Bobby Wagner k. j. right, Earl, Thomas, everyone else has gone by the Weigman caging right? A hurt. So only Earl, Thomas right now available to play quarterback. Still there. About the only thing. I don't know how much long he's going to be a one piece. This is what I said. What I said at the game, say, never be the same and skip. If they're going through this right now, you could always look back and say, you know what? They did get to Super Bowls. So they have something really nice that that was a great little run. They had for a four year stretch to get to Super Bowl out of it. What they did to your Broncos. And and had an opportunity to follow that back up. They do this. It's over this team is in rebuil- mold this, is it the terrible skip? There's no way around it. You looking at them last night. I'm like. I'm surprised they scored seventeen because for the first half, I'm like, I don't believe they don't get. I don't believe they don't get the ball in the end zone skip. I don't know. But it wasn't until the more watch Mitchell Trubisky list. I like him skill. I mean, you never liked it, but ever like I'm starting to I land. Okay. He might be. What about you think Khalil could help the raiders above Al? We talk about Khalil back the real reason that's just piling on. C, boy, you'll guy in trouble. You got six times about Chicago, six times about a Bronco and the Cowboys come to town as just jumping ally here all night loan Cowboys. Second, the NFL and sack so far with nine. Oh, you probably you like say, well, you're saying that they can rush the passer. That's one thing we can do. Randy. Gregory was in concussion protocol against e. or ally might be in concussion protocol right now. He's still by being my, we don't know about it. They're not a good football team. They're completely rebuild mo- they don't have weapons around Russell to help him make lays the offense of line is in shambles. The defense is not the same. The legion of boom is gone. Richard Sherman got released cliff, April and Kam chancellor ahead to retire camp. Michael Bennett, Michael, they traded Michael Bennett. This is not the same team. So the days of the Seattle, oh, the twelfth, man, and out of those that's over and it's not coming back and they squandered that opportunity had. So I see what you're trying to do to me. I know exactly. It was painfully transparent onto do. It's amusing Lee transparent. You're trying to rile up the Seahawks to pull off the upset of my Cowboys. Although it really wouldn't be an upset because it sounds like the spreads going to be Seattle minus three. So they're gonna get three for home field. So I think Vegas looks at it as kind of a toss up. Yes, it is not. Yeah, skip. You use the path to week you've seen the Seahawks play. I have, but what does disturb me is that both Bobby Wagner in k. j. right could be back Sunday. I know it's a short week for them..
"packers vikings" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"Yeah, so so the backup quarterback wins the championship, and it was kind of a starless championship like they got a lot of really good players on defense, but is there a superstar breakout magazine cover? They don't have a bomb Miller. They don't have. I mean, plus a cocker the closest thing. But when we talk about we go into a lot of defensive player before we get deployed grand grandma's. Yeah, everybody tells me is that brain grams even better than Fletcher caught will. Most people don't even know is pick him out of a line on offense. Did they have a superstar as Al Shana superstar? He's really good, but he's not a superstar, right? No, their offense of line collectively, you could say a superstar unit, but they don't have. We don't. You know about it really is laying job because he does that, but we didn't know about until he started talking really after the Joe, you knew about Kelsey after the Super Bowl when he got up and gave his k. his speech unity and Antonio to me is becoming more and more of solo act where it's him in the team over here and whatever the team's doing. Irrelevant to his solo act because he is becoming a superstar on social. He's already superstar and social media, and I don't know if the twain shall meet. I don't know if you can win a championship with that kind of guy playing that way. At that position, you can't win a championship with that kind of locker room. That's what you can't. No, I agree. Someone's going to be the one to make those rules and call them dump. A coach Tomlin someone's job and the Steelers on the road guys against the bucks..
"packers vikings" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"He picked him up. Exactly. And they didn't for flying. Last one football was football, right? But guess what? People don't wanna see the two thousand ravens skip. They don't wanna see people beat people up like that. They want the forty points a game. They wanted to quarterback the pro for four or five hundred. Seven eight touchdown passes. Why receiving getting fifteen sixteen catches? They don't wanna see that type of football. They don't do. They want to see a game. Fairly one in fairly lost was that's not what happened on Sunday. It was. It was unfairly won or tied Green Bay could have made. This could've made. You're not talking about, could've made it moot because all they had to get another touchdown. They want for five in the rhythms getting well, Aaron Rodgers. Go visit your health that your chance to take a shot hill. Klay, Matthew scooped him, then they're you school. He did not Pame. Now you're seeing ghosts like their tone said yesterday, brainwashed. You said it before they did hardly establishment laugh, but then you know, big brother isn't watching you big brother speaking, though. You you try to get controlling, you try to do you try to get me thought on my part time. Oh, really? Oh, I didn't put together also, that's what's happening here is that really was? I don't know. I think you just what exposed yourself. I don't know. You know what thing that you know, I call it one thousand. Okay. You know, declare because some people know what you're talking about. No. You're talking about your show show on FOX simultaneously, airs on NFL network driving, say, I don't know. You brought it up. Are you clear about what you try to say? I don't know. It kind of sounds that way. Just very talented has got multiple. I don't have any problem with that. They call your boy OJ shot in the poll. Do I'm trying to get my hustle hustle grind, fine with that. A couple of jobs over. Yeah, I've got the. Tony ground is a four time. Albro sixty touchdown catches and nine seasons, but he still has his critics. Former Steelers PR person called out until Neo on Twitter. Yesterday, said, quote, AB needs to think is lucky stars because he was drafted by a team that had been and Ben got AB paid, you know, darn well, he wouldn't put up those numbers for other teams. AB responded with boat trade me. Let's find out Shannon. What do you make of this exchange on Twitter. And a lot of receivers view. Their value is tied to catch them. Touchdowns AB had seventeen targets. He had nine catches sixty seven yards, but he watch, Sammy Watkins, go over hundred. He wants to repeal have ninety what Travis kills. We go over hundred. He sees the ball flying around on the other side and he's like, I'm better than them. And we throwing the ball just as much as them but are not receiving the benefit. A lot of what the receiver does skip, he's view hit. The value is tied to catch and touchdowns so he doesn't see if I get a great block and we win the game. Now I need catch it. I need twelve for buck fifty in two tools. We win. See, so you don't talk about and then he sees all these other receivers, having these monster days Antonio got fustrated. He led this guy goad him into it. Yeah. Quarterback is also a dependent position. There's a reason why coach Bela check took a chance on Josh Gordon. Now he has Tom Brady, Tom Brady have played a book of career what I did true number one receiver, and he's made it work. Tom Brady hadn't had a receiver win the last time. Tom Brady had a receiver make the Pro Bowl and win the Super Bowl. I'm not talking about wrong, but when he had random all ready to go into the Pro Bowl, but they went winning Super Bowl. Have he had with welcome west was going to the Pro Bowl, but they weren't winning Super Bowls. So Tom Brady's I can make this thing work, but those guys their value as if we win. If I run this route in somebody comes in behind me and catches the ball, I've done my job. Yeah, that's existed..
"packers vikings" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"You said it was a textbook tackle is a textbook takes book explanation of the room in the west to be inside Metaxas book, spin job by the National Mall in? Yes, it is because you know what? I went through this twice with the NFL and this just drives me out of my skull because the first time was I was covering the Oakland Raiders two thousand one at New England. And again, I'm a Brady fan, but this launched the dynasty. This was the tuck rule, quote, unquote, call Rod Woodson coming by Tom Brady. Now let me saw Charles Woodson and knocking the ball. That's that's about as big a fumble as I've that's about as clean. A textbook caused fumble as force fumble as I've ever seen and Oakland recovers, and the game is over over and over one is advancing to the championship. And yet we were told the next day. All like national echo of this was the tuck rule. And I'm saying, no, it wasn't because the tuck rule is when a quarterback has the ball and starts to throw it and decides at the last second, no. No, that's a bad idea and loses the football, right. Well, let's just obviously already incomplete pass. That's the tuck rule. He then we were told that the tuck rule is once you do this and come all the way back to set, you can't knock the ball out of the quarterbacks. Yes, you can finish tucking its top. It's over. He is reset careers, ready to throw again. And here comes Charles Woodson and just knocks the ball free and Jon Gruden would have been going on to the AFC championship game. Right? They went to bed. He believed he believed that someone called from New York. Well, he told me that in the next reign came and told me that face to face pulled me aside to tell me, you know somebody called, it wasn't sometimes it was the somebody called because it went on like five minutes of review before they finally said. Whatever tuck. Okay. So then we get to the desk catch and obviously Dez caught cornered at Green Bay. It changes this whole game. It's a touchdown if we could see this and yet I had. I got sick to my stomach the next day because all I heard was this was not a catch because he didn't make a football move, but he catches the ball. He puts it in his left hand, he takes a step with it and then he tries to slam it on the goal line. He's trying to slam it on the goal line like a running back would for a touchdown. It's a touchdown in the ref on the spot signals. I think he's signally was down at the one, but again, they're going to score but fails give adding all that language all that wording. He didn't do a football move, or he didn't do that. Then you can't in this is a catch, but I had to hear the whole next day. He didn't make a football move, really. So the ref says it's a catch because he puts it down at the half yard line, right. Okay. So Dallas is going to score. Dallas is going to go ahead and Aaron Rodgers is going to lose yet another homegoing alive and six since he won the SuperBowl, he would have been four and seven. I heard that before. I remember like three or four years ago, the team at the one yard line and everybody said they were going to, they're going to win to go lose what happens, get the. Didn't loom? Well, DeMarco Murray would ram that we know. Oh, now you're Marco Murray better than bees, moly better. At that point, he led the league in rushing eight year, so I'll take DeMarco from one. I'll take Romo sneak from the one. I know you didn't get a, I'll take a fade the Dez from the half. Oh, so you you love. And that was when. Every week, you old. He's on the cover Rolling Stone and that was his year. So. So again, then the NFL comes out and just doubles down the next day. That was not a catch. Well, yeah, was I'm sorry, just was, what do they got to? What do you want to do? Just be quiet. Just let it lay where they can't criticize it. Okay..
"packers vikings" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"Okay. That was a lot Shannon. Tabei this explanation. What I said yesterday he did. He was as wrong. Interesting. Maybe you should work. Clayton wants to get off said he should be mad at Iran from getting hurt last year. When Anthony Barr landed on hill, it's getting, you know how this works. You give, you know what a bit Winnie Raj of think about this. Trent green got his me blown up by Rodney Harrison being hitting me. Okay, didn't change the rule. Carson Palmer in the playoff Kiko van Omaha. It wasn't until Tom Brady blew out his knee, getting hitting me in the pocket that they changed the room, how to Tony Romo get hurt skill Bayless how did he break his collarbone? What of David won't they giving? There's a my turn. Thomas Davis key cook which you mean he tipped him over and broken collarbone again, they didn't change the room. It wasn't appointed emphasis until Aaron Rodgers left the pocket. Anthony Barr, put him on his shoulder. This is how it worked. They said, this rule is always been on the FEC. It's kinda like incidental context. Remember this that's rule is always been in the book. But now if they point of emphasis, this was a point of emphasis in the preseason because we saw it called much more now. They had fifteen roughing the passer penalties in week one. Now, last week it was six this week. It was six. Now last average about seven a week, so we're pretty much on the on par, but what we see is that what about the games that it didn't come down to a situation where the Ruffin the penalty, the drive alive and they ended up tying the ballgame and we're in the overtime. I'm sure there was some of those and things like, but it was because clay Matthew, it was a national televised game and it kept the drive alive. Cousins goals down, lead the team to a test down two point. And we get the overtime that is being harped upon. But if you look at it and what they explained, it skipped scooped it any landed on top of it and I told you you couldn't do that, you finished? Yeah. Okay. I point of order. You're completely wrong about he landed on top of in because the NFL made it very clear. This was not the new body weight kind of penalty. They said everybody said, had nothing to do with body weight on top of Kirk cousins. That's a whole new facet to the new rule. Okay. But Tony critic called it after the game to the pool reporter like he burp them. He picked him up. Yeah, yeah. Scooped him up in the. Here's the phraseology from yesterday from a league source that you can't grab the passer from behind by one leg or both legs scoop to use your word up, pull him in an upward motion, and that is a foul. Okay. So I wanna. This again, I don't see any scoop. I don't see any birth. I don't see any pick him up off the ground. Don't see this more time. That's just straight on. Did he stop and pick him up and then slam him to the ground? Was it a body slam? No, it was not. You know what? It was seriously. It was a textbook, clean, easy tackle of a quarterback. That's all it was. So did he get there too, too late? Was it a lady? No, it was not a late hit it. Was there any helmet to helmet or hands to the face or head? There was none of that. Was there any what I used to despise continuation play, where some three hundred fifty pound pass. Rusher would come in a second. After the ball was gone and hit the quarterback and get to continue with him for five yards and barium in the turf. Did that happen? I didn't see that happen. I thought it was textbook clean. I thought he was pretty gentle with the quarterback. He just kind of put an arm around him and then pulled into the ground. He did not score. That's not a school that's not a burp scoop me. Her cousins deserves to be burp you, but. But..
"packers vikings" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"It wasn't resonating with him for whatever reason. Maybe he didn't respect them. Maybe he was comfortable for whatever. Now he has to get out of his comfort zone. He has to learn a new system. He has to go someplace. He hasn't been before. I hope it works out, but remember now granted, he's only twenty. Seven believes only played eleven games in about four years. At some point in time, you just don't get to maintain their athletic ability without sharpening that scale. It's going to be very interesting. Everybody keeps saying Randy moss. I don't know if that's going to be the case that they can catch lightning in a bottle. This is a game changer who this is a game changer because what you do if you double grump and you leave that guy one on one, you asking for problems and. Double him. That means you got to leave wanna one and you're asking for problem and nobody wants those kind of problems. They don't want that. Did you see what Cordeiro Patterson did the other day. He's kick returner trying to math rate rate as wide receiver on the one thing third-down play. He caught it going backwards and just stumbled and fell. I'm sure Tom Brady's money's like, that's it. That's over that. What you got an hour. Josh Gordon Cordeiro try got Josh Gord name into the receiver other Iraq. That is correct. So I told you yesterday, I am speaking more with my heart then my head, I admit it right up front, but I know Josh Gordon just well enough to know, I believe is heart is in the right place. Now the rest of I'm not sure about right, but he's a deep kid and he's still a kid at twenty seven, and he has high off the field I q, I'm not shout translates into his personal life and his football life. But he continues to say, I just don't love myself enough and it sort of tears at my heartstrings because I get that where he's immensely gifted. But there times when he just says whatever he gets down on himself, and then he goes over the edge, maybe the good that makes bad decisions. He makes bad decisions and he's made a whole bunch a long line of bad decisions that would scream at you. No, no, no, no, no, right. In the Browns finally said, no. Now why they traded him. They said they want to trade him in the NFC, but they trade him to the best team in the AFC. I don't get that one, but that's fine by the patriots. So I said yesterday, if I am Jerry Jones, I would risk a fifth round pick as a high risk, high reward plunge just to see if you could catch lightning in the bottle in Dallas because he's a Houston kid. I'm pretty sure he grew up a cowboy fan as he went to Baylor University for a little while before he got booted out of there. But the point is maybe if he goes to Dallas, I don't know. Maybe it would work. Maybe the change of scenery would work. Maybe putting on that metallic blue. He'd say, okay, I'm business now not a Cleveland Brown, a Dallas cowboy and what did Bill Belichick do he did exactly what I wanna Jerry Jew. He gave a fifth round pick for Josh Gordon, and you know what? I just have this sneaking suspicion that Tom break. Eighty has his next Randy moss while Jerry Jones does not have his next Dez Bryant in again before I get deeper into what the patriots have. Just remember Jerry continues to do nothing to send messages to the locker room..
"packers vikings" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"Him, Gordon led the league in receiving yards back in two thousand thirteen, but after multiple suspensions for violating the league's substance abuse policy, he's only played in eleven games since then we all know New England needs help at receiver. Shannon, is this a good move or a bad move by the patriot. Skip considering what they have at the wide receiver position and the notion that coach bell check doesn't do anything to try and help. Tom Brady. I think he's dispelled that people look at a at the organizational structure and they said, well, if he doesn't get the quarterback receivers, he's not trying to help the quarterback. Sometimes it's getting them out of lamb and sometimes it's shoring up your deepens to make sure that when your quarterback give you a lead, you're able to hold it. So he went and got him, Corey Coleman, and Bennie. Fowler he was trying to cut a okay rent a Jordan us keep going. They've had twenty eight moves at the wide receiver position since the since March. But when you look at Josh Gordon, tell me the the fifth round draft pick that they could possibly have selected with that fifth round. Pick that give them the potential or the upside in with Josh Gordon, give them nothing. This guy think about it as Jenny read. He's only played eleven games. He led the league in receiving, but he's only twenty seven thirty seven twenty seven years of age. You talking about six foot three and a half, two hundred twenty five to thirty that can run the Rowntree explosive. Give out of three game stretch and this what? Minnesota in Minnesota. This what? New England cunning on. He went for like two thirty, eight to sixty three one fifty one against the patriots. There's like, wow, if each of gives a half of that we're good. I don't know how many people listen. Tom Brady said they were doubling gronk and that was the opportunity for some other guys to to kinda step up in any kind of didn't happen. So we basically say bad. I got trae. I'll play with trash. I don't know him to take shots by teammates, but you got me. I here that possible. Tommy went to daddy when overbill chicks head and said, Mr., Kraft, would you go get me? Josh Gordon, I don't know, skip, I believe the Browns realized it was time to move on and maybe a change of scenery. What Josh Gordon might be after the first second fifteen time that the Browns stood behind Josh Gordon, Josh Gordon realize one thing I'm immensely talented, and the likelihood of them moving on from me is not highly unlikely because of what they saw missed two games led the league receiving was suspended for ten games back earth game out the box against the gates. I go get your book and we win the game. So he knew he had built up cache, shape because of his athletic ability, which made it unlikely for the Browns to move on. But no matter how nice someone is. Even they have limits and the Browns seemingly have their limits because they, you know what another enough is time in maybe a change of scenery. If I know you mentioned that the Cowboys Cowboys. Are you wait the only handle organizations that can handle this? Are you really in the put him in that locker room with Randy Gregory with David Irving with that situation with Zeke, you'll Elliott, is that what you wanted that give it is? I don't think so. Whole team, maybe birds of a feather. They can all Jedi do. They help each other? Do Dono normally to that, which have to one thing and. The patriots or quip to handle this because of coach Bela check because Tom Brady and because everybody else followed that structure, there's no splintering. There is no bickering you don't hear. You don't see was coming out of Pittsburgh locker room. You don't see you. Don't hear that coming out of knowing locker room now we've had some dysfunction as far from the top office from the front office. Yeah, but you don't hear anything coming out locker room. The patriots are quick to handle this. I hope Josh Gordon can get his life together his life, not as football life, his life off the field because clearly the resin the message that was coming out of Cleveland..
"packers vikings" Discussed on Get Up!
"Leaving. And by the way, great quarterback forget they have the league's leading rusher from year ago is the Packers Vikings tie. And to me, this is a game that we will be remembering in December, and we'll be talking about this call. This is might be the biggest play of the season. The notion that that was a penalty claim Hughes is inexplicable and inexcusable and it winds up costing the Packers win. They wind up in a tie game yesterday, and if the Packers wind up missing out on the playoffs or the division or home field, that a game by half a game, which is a very real possibility considering how tight that division looks. You're gonna remember that play in December. Let me get to my number one because it is Jacksonville did yesterday. Against New England. And if you're watching the beginning of the show rextall Jim, you wanna play New England early, the patriots will get better. They will look better. But here's why say this is the number one thing to remember because Jacksonville is that good and this result could wind up meaning that a playoff matchup between these two teams is in Jacksonville and not Foxborough Rex, you know how different and the other thing is who's Jacksonville's best player on offense by the way never played in the game. So watch out. It's not just Eshelman not plan for for knowing wing land for net will also be back there. So to me, this team, I mean, I picked them last year. I thought they were the biggest threat to New England and they still are his name. Blake, Bortles, four touchdown passes like Tom Brady how I still talk. I'm not buying it and I'm not buying list of the five most. Things. In the NFL. Now we get to the strangest story of the day train one of the street of stories of all time, bills.
"packers vikings" Discussed on Ross Tucker Football Podcast
"Kind of a disappointing year i hadn't even thought of this till someone mentioned that the bears packers vikings quarterback decisions me quarterback situations have all been up and down you know and injuries and stuff meanwhile the lions of matthew stafford all year yet they're not really in the mix for the division number fourteen the dallas cowboys well that was what they needed now they need to get another win against the giant which is very very doable on sunday although i would expect with eli back out there the crowd will be going crazy that's going to be a unique environment that's gonna be a corned ironman for cowboys giants on sunday but i would expect that the cowboys still win that game in katiti kinda get themselves back in it you know they played they played much much better especially in the second half of that game number thirteen the baltimore ravens you just can't keep the ravens down they're not a great team flaco has been bad this year their pass offense has been bad but yet here they go that they're they're right there in the play off mix and frankly if they open the playoffs played against the chargers or the jags i wouldn't be surprised that beat him number 12 the tennessee titans boy they don't really past the look test but it doesn't matter because there is no look test in the nfl this is college football it's what your record their records eight in four they deserve credit for that that ball that batters but they're not one of the best eight in four teams i've ever seen nets for darn sure number eleven the la chargers charges just keep moving up the charts and rightfully so they got a big game this sunday but they get a chance to just i mean they got to be the favorites now to win that division and they actually have enough to them with rivers and the defense and keno now on that they actually could make some noise in the playoffs.