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Recount confirms Biden's win in Wisconsin
"President Trump continues to allege widespread election fraud In an exclusive interview on Fox News Sunday morning futures, he said Democrats stuffed the ballot boxes they used coveted as a means to stuff the ballot box is Joe Biden did not get 16 million more votes than Barack Hussein Obama. He didn't get it another setback for the Trump campaign today, the two largest Counties in Wisconsin, completing recounts confirming Joe Biden and won the state by more than
Biden to be examined by doctor after twisting ankle
"President elect Joe Biden being examined by a doctor today after twisting his ankle while playing with his
Completed Wisconsin recount confirms Biden's win over Trump
"Wisconsin has finished a recount of its presidential election results the recount confirms Democrat Joe Biden's victory in the state Dane county was the second and last county to finish reporting a forty five vote gain for president trump Milwaukee county was the other big overwhelmingly liberal county targeted in a recount that trump paid for it reported results Friday showing a one hundred and thirty two vote gain for Biden Biden won Wisconsin by more than twenty thousand votes and his margin in Milwaukee and Dane counties with about two to one still even before the recount concluded president trump vowed to challenge the outcome in court I'm Ben Thomas
Wisconsin recount confirms Biden's win over Trump
"Wisconsin's two largest counties completed ballot recounts today, confirming President elect Joe Biden's win by some 20,000 votes there, and Sarah Schneider of member station W. E s a reports Pennsylvania's Supreme Court has thrown out a lawsuit that sought to declare millions of mail in ballots in the state unconstitutional. Republican Congressman Mike Kelly and Sean Parnell, a Republican who led an unsuccessful bid to unseat US representative Connor Lamb were among the plaintiffs. The suit cited issues with law enacted a year ago that let Pennsylvanians vote by mail without an excuse. The state Supreme Court dismissed the case because they say the suit wasn't filed in a timely manner. Days ago, the Republican State Court judge handling the case agreed to halt further certification of the vote count. Governor Tom Wolfe and Secretary of State Kathy Book far appealed to the state Supreme Court, saying the suit could interfere with the state's ceding its electors
Trump Doubles Down On Election Fraud Claim
"Election was the biggest voting scandal in American history. So says President Trump election was rigged. This election. Was a total fraud and it continues to be as they hide and the problem we have we go to judges and people don't want to get involved. The media doesn't even want to cover it. The president in his first full length interview since election Day with Fox is Maria Bartiromo, with
Retired Navy admiral: Biden should take a different approach to national security
"Admiral Bill McRaven says Joe Biden needs to be different than President Trump on national security. In many ways, the concerns of the international community has had for quite some time. Is that President Trump is not a coalition builder. He doesn't believe in alliances. McRaven told ABC s this week that the national security team Biden has nominated has great experience and familiarity with each other. He said. They'll approach the issue differently than the Trump administration, and their approach may be different than that of the Obama administration. And
Fauci: 'Close the bars, keep the schools open' to mitigate community spread
"Dire dire warnings warnings advising advising against against Thanksgiving Thanksgiving gatherings. gatherings. We We also also saw saw record record breaking breaking travel, travel, and and today we expect to break another record as millions of Americans are making their way home. This is just a snapshot of some of the nation's busiest airports this morning, but it is not just those lines at the airport that air causing fear. It is the images of these shocking lines across the country. Americans lined up for food. With the vaccine not widely available until next year. Businesses remain shuttered and more than 20 million people are claiming unemployment benefits. Dr Anthony Fauci is standing by, but first we wanted to take a closer look. There's critical moment and those struggling in the long shadow of the pandemic. We still have months of This battle ahead of US President elect Joe Biden, warning that the fight against Cove it is far from over. We have to try to slow the growth of this farmers. We all went to the doctors and the nurses and other frontline workers. It's about 2 30 in the morning. I just got home from work last March, when this all began, we talked to emergency room. Doctor Aaron Beaumont. All of the sudden we just got overwhelmed Ambulance after ambulance with Hypoxic patients people in respiratory distress. Dr. Beaumont, who works in the Boston area, has grown tragically used to the toll of this pandemic, but is bracing for a post holiday crush of patients at one of the constants that we've had throughout this pandemic since the beginning. Is the component of stress and fear that the health care workers in the front line providers are experiencing every single day or tired of this. We're exhausted, but the pandemic strange extend far beyond the halls of hospitals, months of economic hardship marking the start of the holiday season. That need evident across the country. Cars backed up for miles, people standing in line for hours, even in the rain just to get food. food. You You know, know, I'm I'm thinking thinking he's he's trying trying to to provide provide for for my my family family right right now now Networking Networking hunger hunger in in this this country country at at a a new new high high one one out out of of every every eight eight Americans say they sometimes don't have enough food to eat. For households with Children. It's one in six. I've never witnessed the system being more strange than it is right now just miles from my own home in Virginia Long lines here where they've seen a 45% increase in the family's coming for food executive director Charlie Main worries it could get worse. It can get very difficult at times watching These lines getting longer and longer. What do you expect in the coming months when county support federal support drops off, our families will come to us and even greater numbers, and that's my biggest fear. And you know we have to serve. All of those people were committed to serving everybody who comes to our doors. Joining me now now Live Live is is the the director director of of the National the National Institute Institute of Allergy of Allergy and and Infectious Infectious Diseases, Diseases, Dr Dr Anthony Anthony Fauci. Fauci. Dr Dr Fauci. Fauci. Welcome Welcome back back to to this this week. week. Today Today could could be be the the busiest busiest travel travel day day in in the country the country since since the the start start of the of pandemic, the pandemic, even even though though you you and and other other public public health health leaders leaders have have made made appeal appeal after after appeal appeal for for people people to stay to stay put. put. And And distance distance as as much much as as possible. possible. When When you you watch watch these these scenes, scenes, what what do you do think? you think? And And what what else else can can you you possibly possibly say say to to them? them? Well, Well, I mean, I mean, the the travel travel that that has has been been done done has has been been done done right right now now is is people people go go back? back? We want We want to to urge urge them. them. If they've If they've been been in situations in situations outside outside of of the the family family setting setting in in which which they they really really don't don't know know the level the level of of exposure exposure to to be be really really careful careful when when you you either either return return from from the place the place that that you you went. went. Other Other people people come come back back into into your your house. house. That you've That you've really really got got to understand to understand the importance the importance of of trying trying to to prevent prevent further further spread spread and and further further surge surge that that maybe maybe when when you you go go back back to to where where you you came came from, from, if if it's it's possible possible to to quarantine quarantine yourself yourself for for a a period period of time, of time, or or even even get get tested tested to to make make sure sure That you're That you're not not bringing bringing infection infection back back to to another another place place being being another another home home or or another another family. family. Having Having said said that that we we have have to to be be careful careful now now because because they're they're almost almost certainly certainly is is going going to be to be an an uptick uptick because because of of what what has has happened happened with with the travel. the travel. We We understand. understand. The importance The importance of of family family is getting is getting together together and and it's it's just just something something that that we we have have to to deal deal with with that that we we likely likely will will have have an an increase increase in in cases cases as as we we get get into into the the colder colder weeks. weeks. Of the Of the winter. winter. And And as as we we approach approach the Christmas the Christmas season, season, please please don't don't forget forget the the standard standard public public health health measures measures that that we we talk talk about about The reason The reason I I say say that that a a moth moth and and and and almost almost plead plead with with people people is is that that we we do do know know That it That it does does work. work. Countries Countries that that have have mitigated mitigated have have turned turned around around the surge. the surge. States States that that have have mitigated mitigated have have had had a a turnaround turnaround of the of the inflection inflection of of the the curb. curb. So So it it does does work. work. And And as as we've we've just just heard, heard, help help is is on on the the way way Vaccines Vaccines a a really really right right on on the the horizon. horizon. Will Will be be having having vaccines vaccines available available for for the the higher higher priority priority people people towards towards the the middle middle and and end end of of December December and and as as we we get get into into January January and and February, February, so so everyone everyone is is totally totally empathetic. empathetic. About About the the fatigue fatigue that that everyone everyone is is feeling. feeling. But But if we if we can can hang hang in in there, there, hang hang in in there there a a bit bit longer longer and and do do the fundamental the fundamental things things wearing wearing of of mask mask uniformly uniformly avoiding avoiding crowds crowds and and congregate congregate settings, settings, keeping keeping physical physical distance distance washing washing your your hands. hands. They They seem seem simple simple in in the the enormity enormity of of the problem. the problem. That we're That we're facing, facing, But But they they do do make make a a difference. difference. Dr. Dr. Fauci Fauci pleaded pleaded before before the the beginning. beginning. Yeah, Yeah, Doc Doc Doctor Doctor Fauci. Fauci. You You have have said said that that again again and and again again and and again. again. We We saw saw all all those those people people traveling. traveling. So So you you know know what's what's coming. coming. And And with with Christmas Christmas just just around around the corner, the corner, do do you you think think will will be be under under the the same same restrictions restrictions that that you you recommended? recommended? On Thanksgiving On Thanksgiving going going into into Christmas. Christmas. You You know, know, Martha, Martha, I I can't can't see see how how we're we're not not gonna gonna have have the the same same thing thing because because when when you you have have the the kind kind of inflection of inflection that that we we have, have, it it doesn't doesn't all of all of a sudden a sudden turn turn around around like like that. that. So So clearly, clearly, in in the the next next few few weeks, weeks, we're we're gonna gonna have have the the same same sort sort of thing. of thing. And And perhaps perhaps even even two two or or three three weeks weeks down down the the line, line, Martha, Martha, we we may may see see a a surge surge upon upon a a surge. surge. You You know, we know, we don't don't want want to frighten to frighten people. people. But But that's that's just just the the reality. reality. We We said said that that these these things things would would happen. happen. As we As we got got into into the the cold cold weather, weather, and and as as we we began began traveling, traveling, and and they've they've happened, happened, it's it's gonna gonna happen happen again. again. So So I I cannot cannot see see all all of of a a sudden sudden a a relax relax ation ation of of the kinds the kinds of of recommendations recommendations or or restrictions restrictions because because we're we're getting getting into into colder colder weather weather and and enough enough in in even even larger larger holiday holiday season season as as people people travel travel to to come come back back and and forth. forth. For Christmas, For Christmas, so so I I don't don't see see a a relax relax ation ation of of the kind the kind of of recommendations recommendations and and restrictions restrictions that that we've we've made. made. And And Dr Dr Factually. Factually. The Supreme The Supreme Court Court on on Wednesday Wednesday struck struck down down New New York's York's Covad Covad restrictions restrictions on on religious religious gatherings gatherings in in the state. the state. How How concerned concerned are you are you about about legal legal challenges challenges to to pandemic pandemic restrictions restrictions going going forward? forward? Well, Well, I I mean, mean, they they happened, happened, Martha. Martha. There's There's nothing nothing I I could could do about do about it. it. I I just just keep keep saying saying that that when when people people ask ask me me for for Opinions Opinions of of specific specific things things rather rather than than make make a a comment comment on on a a specific specific things. things. I I could could just just say say it it doesn't doesn't matter matter who who you you are are where where you you are, are, when when you have you have congregate congregate settings, settings, particularly particularly indoors. indoors. When When people people are not are not wearing wearing masks, masks, that that is is a a considerable considerable risk risk for for acquisition acquisition and and spread spread of of infection, infection, no no matter matter what what the circumstances the circumstances that that is is a a risk. risk. And And you you said said there there should should be more be more regular regular testing testing available available for for asymptomatic asymptomatic people. people. How How soon soon do do you think you think before before Americans Americans could could have have inexpensive inexpensive home home tests? tests? And And why why haven't haven't they they so so far? far? Well, Well, I I hope hope it's it's sooner sooner rather rather than than later, later, Martha. Martha. I mean I mean they they obviously obviously we've we've done done better better in in testing testing than than we we did did early early on on in the in beginning. the beginning. But you're But you're talking talking about about different different kinds kinds and and different different motivations motivations and and different different objectives objectives of of testing. testing. If If you're you're trying trying to find to find out out if if a a person person is is infected infected either either for for contact contact tracing tracing or or what what have have you you then then you you want want a a highly highly sensitive sensitive test test that that might might take take a a day day or or two two to to get get a a result result back. back. When When you're you're trying trying to find to find out out what what the the extent extent of of the community the community spread spread is is that that is is driven driven very very clearly, clearly, at at least least in in part part by by asymptomatic asymptomatic spread, spread, so so we we need need to to know know the extent the extent of of the the asymptomatic. asymptomatic. The only The only way way you you know know that that is is what what you you just just asked asked for. for. And I And I would would like like to to have have seen seen it it already. already. And And I hope I hope that that we we get get it soon. it soon. Rapid, Rapid, sensitive, sensitive, specific specific home home testing testing even even one one that that you you might might not not even even need need a a prescription prescription for for so so that that people people can can have have within within their their own own power power to to know know whether whether or or not not it it is is in in his his highly highly sensitive sensitive is is the the other, other, but but it it is is very very helpful, helpful, particularly particularly if if you you do do it it over over and and over over again. again. I hope I hope we we get get that that soon. soon. And And Dr Dr Fauci Fauci in New in York New York City City Public Public school school shut shut down down again again earlier earlier this this month. month. I I know know your your default default position position is is that that you'd you'd like like to to see see the the skull skull schools schools open. open. But But how how do do you you make make that that happen? happen? And And how how would would you you advise advise the the incoming incoming Biden Biden administration administration on on getting getting a a sort sort of unified of unified response? response? Well, Well, you you know, know, Martha, Martha, that's that's a a good good question. question. We get We get asked asked that all that all the the time. time. You You know, we know, we say say it it not not being being facetiously facetiously as as a a sound sound bite bite or anything, or anything, but but you you know, know, Closed Closed the boss the boss and and keep keep the the school's school's open open is is what what we really we really say. say. Obviously, Obviously, you you don't don't have have one one size size fits fits all. all. But But as as I I said said in in the past, the past, and and as as you you accurately accurately quoted quoted me me The default The default position position should should be be to to try try his his best best this this possible possible within within reason reason to keep to keep the the Children Children in school in school to to get get them them back back to school. to school. The The best best way way to to ensure ensure the the safety safety of of the Children the Children in school in school is is to to get get the community the community level level of of spread spread low. low. So So if if you you mitigate mitigate the things the things that that you you know, know, are are causing causing spread spread In a In a very, very, very very profound profound way way in in a a robust robust way. way. If If you you bring bring that that down, down, you you will will then then indirectly indirectly and and ultimately ultimately protect protect the Children the Children in the in school the school because because the the community community level level is is determined determined how how things things go go across across the the board. board. So my So my feeling feeling would would be the be the same same thing. thing. If If you you look look at at the the data, data, the spread the spread among among Children Children and and from from Children Children is is not not really really very very big big at at all, all, not not like like one one would would have have suspected. suspected. So So let's let's try try to to get get the the kids kids back. back. But But let's let's try try to to mitigate mitigate the the things things that that maintain maintain and and and and just just push push the the kind kind of community of community spread spread that that we're we're trying trying to avoid. to avoid. And And those those other other things things that that you you know know well, well, the the bars bars the the restaurants restaurants where where you have you have capacity capacity seating seating indoors indoors without without masks. masks. Those Those of of the things the things that that drive drive the the community community spread, spread, not not the the schools schools and and and and Dr Dr fracture. fracture. You You talked talked about about the the vaccine vaccine and and the availability the availability of of the the vaccine. vaccine. The government The government Can't Can't force force everyone everyone to take to take the vaccine. the vaccine. So So what what about about schools? schools? Companies? Companies? Employers? Employers? Can Can they they mandate mandate of vaccine of vaccine like like in in other other vaccines? vaccines? You You know know any any individual individual group group command command eight eight vaccines vaccines in in certain certain ways, ways, Martha, Martha, It's It's not. not. I I believe believe going going to come to come centrally. centrally. I I don't don't want want to get to get ahead ahead of of the game the game there, there, but but I I doubt doubt that. that. That would That would happen. happen. For For example, example, right right now, now, myself. myself. I I mean, mean, I'm I'm at at the the NIH NIH Clinical Clinical Center. Center. I'm I'm a a physician. physician. I I see see patients. patients. I I have have to to get get the the influenza influenza vaccine vaccine or or I'm I'm not not gonna gonna be able be able to see to see patients, patients, so so individual individual units units be be they they hospitals hospitals or or other other organizations. organizations. Can't Can't do do that. that. It's It's within within their their right right to to say. say. If If you you want want to work to work with with us, us, you're you're gonna gonna have have to to get get a vaccine. a vaccine. But But that's that's not not going going to be, to be, I I believe, believe, essentially essentially mandated mandated process process and and Dr Dr Factory. Factory. There There are are concerns concerns about about the the anti anti vaccination vaccination movement movement and and infectious infectious to to see see disease disease specialists specialists in Boston, in Boston, telling telling the Boston the Boston Globe Globe the same the same energy energy that that was was placed placed into into development development and and distribution distribution of a of a Corona Corona virus. virus. Vaccine Vaccine should should have have been been placed placed in in messaging messaging and and community community engagement. engagement. Do you Do you agree agree with with that? that? Oh, Oh, absolutely. absolutely. We We have have to to engage engage the the community. community. Martha Martha B. B. Because Because we we do do have have a a degree degree of of anti anti vax vax to to begin begin with. with. But But then then there's there's skepticism skepticism about about this this vaccine. vaccine. So So we've we've got got to be to be able able to to get get out out there there get get community community people people who who the the community community trust trust to show to show two two things. things. The process The process of of the the development development of of this this vaccine vaccine has has been been one one that that has has been been scientifically scientifically sound sound safety safety has has not not been been compromised. compromised. Scientific Scientific integrity integrity has has not not been been compromised compromised and and the process the process Of determining Of determining whether whether it it works. works. Whether Whether it's it's safe safe and and effective, effective, has has been been independent independent by by independent independent bodies bodies and and transparent. transparent. We've We've got got to get to get the the community community the broad the broad community community of of the United the United States States to to see see that that and and appreciate appreciate that. that. And And how how could could be be we'd we'd be sure be sure there there won't won't be prolonged be prolonged side side effects effects from from this this vaccine. vaccine. Well, Well, you you know, know, Martin, Martin, the one the one thing thing you've you've got got to admit to admit that that in in any any intervention, intervention, there there might might be be a side a side effect. effect. The The history history of of vaccine vaccine ology ology that that we we know know for for decades decades and and decades. decades. Is that Is that when when you you talk talk about about prolonged prolonged side side effects effects that's that's very very rare rare and and the side the side effects effects that that occurred occurred that that are beyond are beyond the immediate the immediate pain pain in in the the arm arm and and the fever the fever and and things things like like that. that. Generally Generally occur occur when when you look you look at at like like 95% 95% of the of time the time between between maybe maybe 30 30 and and 45 45 days, days, which which is is the the exact exact reason reason why why the the FDA FDA said said that that they they would would not not want want Tonto Tonto issue issue and and you you a a or or approve approve anyway anyway and and emergency emergency use use organization organization until until 60 60 days days after after half half of of the the people people in in a a trial trial Have Have gone gone from from their their last last dose. dose. So So already, already, the the FDA FDA has has baked baked into into the the process, process, a a safety safety mechanism mechanism to to make make sure sure that that you you have have historically historically overwhelming overwhelming chance chance that that you're you're not not gonna gonna have have a a very very late late effect. effect. Having Having said said that that also, also, you you don't don't just just forget forget about about it. Once it. Once the the trial trial is is over, over, you you have have one one or or two two years years of of the the trial trial follow follow up. up. In In addition addition to to post post trial trial follow follow up up So that's So that's something something that that is is very, very, very very high high priority priority is is the the immediate immediate intermediate intermediate and and long long term term safety safety of of these these vaccines. vaccines. It's It's not not something something that's that's being being disregarded. disregarded.
US coronavirus hospitalizations break records as new cases spike
"Surge and covert 19 cases and hospitalizations continues across the country, and health experts are now theory more spikes of coed, especially following Thanksgiving gatherings this past week. We hear more on that now from Dr Celine Gounder, a member of President elect Joe Biden's covert 19 Advisory board, we know it could take up to 14 days for somebody to develop symptoms. After they have been exposed. So we fully expect that in about a week or two. After Thanksgiving, we will see an increase in cases first. Then about a week or two. Later, you'll start to see an increase in hospitalizations and then another week or two. After that, you'll start to see deaths. The covert 19 death toll across the United States has now surpassed 266,000. According to Johns Hopkins University. Meanwhile, covert 19 cases continue to see a big surge in the Commonwealth as well. State health officials reporting more than 2900 new coronavirus cases and 40 additional deaths in just the latest 24 hour count. Hospitalizations are also on the rise 1045. As of yesterday, 225 of those patients remain in the ICU. 81 communities are now in the red Zone meeting they're considered. Very high risk for Corona virus That's up from 62 communities last week since the start of the outbreak more than 214,000 people in this state have become infected with Cove. It 10,441 people have died
Pennsylvania high court nixes mail-in ballot challenge
"Of losses in court for Republicans and supporters of President Donald Trump grew again. Last night, Pennsylvania Supreme Court dismissed another lawsuit that tried to invalidate absentee voting. Pennsylvania's highest court is now clear the way to certify that states a result. Last remaining legal challenge to the election results in Pennsylvania was squashed by the state's high court, which dismissed request from a top trump ally in Congress to toss every mail ballot cast in the state. Justices unanimously rolled the representative Mike Kelly, miss the window to challenge the state's 2019 law, allowing no excuse mail in voting. But Sean Parnell, one of the suits, other plaintiffs who lost the congressional bid himself. What did that It's not over, and voters should stay tuned correspondent Jack who'd act five of the seven judges also said the lawsuit just came too late. Absentee voting procedures have been established for over a year. They say that would have been the time to complain. They dismissed the claim with prejudice, which means Republicans cannot file another lawsuit about this same issue in Pennsylvania anyway, this decision will make President elect Joe Biden, the winner of that battleground state by an 80,000 vote margin.
Pennsylvania court dismisses lawsuit trying to toss mail ballots
"Trump was on the golf course Saturday Is word came that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court had dismissed the case alleging that Malian ballots there were unconstitutional. CBS News correspondent Ben Tracy reports from the White House in Pennsylvania. Unanimous Federal Court ruling rejected the Trump campaign's latest lawsuit there. Trump appointed judge wrote a blistering opinion saying they campaigns claims have no merit voters. Not lawyers. Choose the president. Ballots, not briefs decide Elections. You don't have a lot of time. He's got a lot of evidence. We don't have a lot of time. President Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, plans to appeal to the U. S. Supreme Court. Loyola Law professor Laurie Levenson says the Pennsylvania High Court's decision is in line with lower court rulings. Court cited the failure of the Trump Lawyers Toe Act with due diligence in such a claim. They had challenged all the mail in voting procedures in the state. But the Pennsylvania Supreme Court said with lower courts had said, as well that this case was without merit. Should be dismissed and should not be brought again.
Iran's top nuclear scientist killed
"Plotting revenge after the reported assassination of its top nuclear scientists. Israel was widely blamed for four other assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists between 2010 and 2012 factors are is killing comes as concerns grow over Iran's uranium enrichment activity. That was what the now severely weakened Iran nuclear deal from which President Trump withdrew was meant to stop
Kamala Harris visits Washington DC holiday market to promote small businesses
"In D. C and her husband broke out their wallets for small business Saturday at the D. C holiday market near Gallery. Place. Vice President elect Kamila Harris says small businesses have suffered during the pandemic and need support. We know that we're going to get beyond this this virus and we want to make sure that we sustain these small businesses to help them through this moment. So they can continue to do what they do, which is really about being not only business leaders, but they are civic leaders and again, they're part of the culture and part of the vitality of community. It's one of seven
Afghan Leader Digs In on Peace Talks Despite Progress, Officials Say
"Afghanistan's chief peace envoy, Abdullah Abdullah, said that the U. S decision to begin withdrawing troops from Afghanistan has come too soon as his country is still struggling to attain peace and security amid an ongoing conflict. Abdullah spoken and Kara, where he saw it. Turkey's support for negotiations between the Afghan government and the Taliban that are taking place in cutter to find an end to decades of war. The talks have made little progress so far. Abdullah said of the US's decision to reduce troop levels in Afghanistan from over 4.5 1000 to 2.5 1000 quote. This is the decision of the U. S administration and we respect it. And quote, acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller announced that we would reduce troop levels in Iraq and Afghanistan by mid January, in line with President Trump's pledge to bring our forces home. Afghan officials have expressed concerns that a rapid reduction in American troops could strengthen the negotiating hand of the Taliban, while the militants are still waging a full fledged insurgency against government forces. Abdullah said it's not like things will go a zwei wish, adding however, that he welcomed to the fact that 2500 troops will remain and NATO will also retain its presence. Abdullah said, quote what form or what shape it will take. That remains to be seen, but they will certainly push for a peaceful settlement and quote Washington signed a deal with the Taliban in February to pave the way for the dough, hot talks and American forces eventual withdrawal. We championed the deal as Afghanistan's best chance at a lasting peace. Folks, This is an endless war. Regardless of what the Taliban agreed to, and negotiations they can and have broken agreements before. Both Turkey and cutter are supporters of Isis and their friends in Afghanistan hasn't built a solid military defense. After all the money and support we've been giving them for years and years and years. Why should we think in a few more years will make a difference. America is not the world's cop. If these nations can't get along, that's an issue for them and their neighbors, not
Iran’s president blames Israel for killing nuclear scientist and vows to respond at the ‘right time’
"Joe biden could be facing a crisis in iran when he takes office the runs top. Nuclear scientists was killed. Daytime ambush friday. The scientists was considered the architect of iran's secret nuclear program that was halted in two thousand three while. Nbc news has not independently confirmed details surrounding his death. Iran's foreign minister has implicated israel in the attack but israel has not commented on the allegations. Join me now now. You're a hawk former state. Department senior adviser and host of sirius. Xm that global experience treat a policy of the quincy institute for responsibility in statecraft and author of losing it. Enemy and colonel lawrence wilkerson former chief of staff for secretary of state colin powell. So i'd like to start with you. Treat it what exactly is happening right now. What are we hearing. Well the latest is happening. Is that the iranian president. I've come out with a statement. Essentially saying that iran is not going to walk into what he called a trap by israelis to escalate and and create a war because that is in his assessment with the israelis wants But it is not clear if that is the view of other elements inside the country. Some of this debate is starting to be taking place in public in which the argument that is made by the other side is that these assassinations continued to take place precisely because in their view the iranians have not responded harshly enough to previous attacks and the only way of preventing future. Attacks is to respond harshly. This one if that happens however than there is a very significant risk for a major esscalation potentially war which according to ruhani is what the Always looking for curl wilkerson. How unusual would it be for the notes to have not been informed of this. Do you believe that the white house knew that this was going to happen. It would be extremely unusual. Maria theresa I have to believe that was informed Trump's whole effort now seems to be to be foul the recent election. So i don't think he's very attentive to but my peyot at sectors state is and i'll remind your viewers of what's up their defense robert gates Now my chancellor. William and mary that the saudis are willing to fight the iranians for the last dead american. And i would add bb netanyahu too much in yahoo in that. I think that's what we're looking at here. They want as a major outcome. A war as a middle ground outcomes they want a bombing campaign by the us against toronto nuclear facilities and as a minimum amount They want to foreclose any possibility of the new president. Joe biden reentering the joint comprehensive plan of action the nuclear agreement with iran and. It looks like they're well on that road to success to follow up on that. Because i think the what the colonel stating is quite implicates the perhaps the role of the white house in this we know that any who has been a very strong ally of donald trump donald trump has been very clear that he is an ally of israel but also want also was the one that was responsible for pulling us out of the nuclear deal with iran. And the idea that we're hearing possibly is that donald trump perhaps did this. No had israelis did this informing donald trump. But also is this netanyahu's attempt to do something under this current administration that he knows me not able to do with a biden administration will the binding administration has certainly picked up a where. The obama administration left off in terms of wanting to return to diplomacy and use the tools of diplomacy to box in bad actors. If we rewind we know. The iran nuclear deal was less about iran's as a terrorist nation and more about eliminating the ability for iran to get a nuclear weapon. That yahoo was opposed of the saudis. Were closed. But this was a coordinated effort between european countries including russia and the united states with the united states. Pulling out that really opened the door. Before is israel and the saudis to look to other avenues to influence the united states. You also had with trump national security adviser john bolton who was in iran war hawk and so some of that still remains netanyahu just last week was meeting and talking with mohammed bin salman the crown prince of saudi arabia. So they're looking at a ticking time clock of being able to behave in ways in which the international at least the united states will not be speaking up. An opposing their efforts so That's the key thing is how much can they. Box in. A biden's options By engaging the united states under a trump administration or while trump is still commander in chiefs treatise of the. Us has done officially commented on what occurred. What is your take when this idea that. Perhaps the trying to do is box in the president elect wyden. I think that's absolutely correct than i think it's also correct would counter wilkerson said that There was probably some sort of implicit green light from the trump administration for netanyahu. Go forward with this. However it's also important to recognize that. Netanyahu must also have calculated that biden. Probably does not have the political will to inflict impose a cost netanyahu if he does these things to box in biden and i think it is up to the biden administration to prove netanyahu wrong. Because i doubt that netanyahu would have gone down this path unless he felt that it was pretty much cost fee from him not just from trump but also from biden
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"president" Discussed on This American President
"I mean I think it would be the last thing that we could need as a country and there I from what I've Read Speaker Pelosi and I. The Republicans to they're all kind of. Planning out these scenarios and making sure everyone is in they're probably talking to the people that are running right now that could win and are saying you need to vote you need to stay party line on this. So who knows what could happen? Right, right? Yeah. I think I did hear. So Wednesday they come up with two different ways the electoral college vote could end up being tied right? Just based on the way. Way Different states are leaning right now toward the candidates will. Yeah. So it's just it's disappearing interesting. Right I don't know I haven't decided in mind I haven't figured out in my head how? President trump's diagnosis will will affect the election if he gets sent home tomorrow in the covers only in the next week. Will this feel like a blip? By the time we get to November third or will this really have some lasting effect will it will there be more support for him because her sympathy for him will there be more I don't know it certainly. You couldn't have written a screenplay about L. Presidential election. Twist and turns than this one is that's true. Yeah. One of my favorite movie lines. Is Fasten your seatbelts. It's going to be a bumpy night. I think that for some reason that's in my mind right now as I think about all this and yeah, I was thinking the same thing I mean. I mean. You hate talking about political implications when it involves people's health but one thing I will say is that after the assassination attempt on President Reagan you saw people. Pretty impressed not just because as a near seventy year old man was able to actually seventy year old man was able to to survive that. But also the fact that he took it with a lot of good humor I mean there are all those stories of him telling Nancy odd darn. I. Forgot to duck and then he looks at his doctors and he says I hope you're all Republicans, and then all of them look at him and say we are today the stories like that, right? So we'll see but. anyways. Just how incredible it must have been for those doctors at the hospital to all of a sudden you have president of the United States in your emergency room. Yeah. It must've been unreal and I believe that happened at Gw Hospital. So I guess. They might assume that I mean hopefully that would never have to happen but it might have crossed their minds but to have it actually happened and to see the president, it states I mean. Their their stories of when. Or when you hear about the doctors that operated on President Kennedy. and. which must have just been surreal especially considering Kennedy's condition was basically hopeless at that point. But anyways, obviously, we hope that everyone who has corona virus. Is. Recovers is healthy and regardless of party and everything. So obviously prayers directed towards them but anyways, and really hopefully for the country that this doesn't. Unravel anything more than things are already. Unraveled or strained as it is so. Right. Right. But.
"president" Discussed on This American President
"He was still I think in a ninety percent, a tinge of getting oxygen on his own. But. I think the best thing the White House is done has been released videos of him. They released video of him in the diplomatic reception room before we got on Marine One. Eight was sure that it was a nasty lazy hem and then the video that they released on on Saturday showing him actually in Walter Reed. upright and I think that's a moist reassuring thing and even yeah, the doctors there's been some criticism of Helmand doctor is communicating. With clarity on time line when this happened etcetera and I was thinking about that I thought well, you know we have hit the laws right. The doctor is not trained to talk about his patient hubbly doctorates trained to keep information about a patient private in. So yet it is so very different win. The doctor is speaking about the president of the United States who is in station, and so it's It's that's the reason why this is unprecedented. He needed doctors aren't used to publicly talking about the symptoms imprisonment. Right. So. What happens if the president is incapacitated after the election but before inauguration, what are kind of the implications that could happen say if the president can't? Take on, the duties to be president. Well I think in that situation, you're still going to have twenty fifth amendment transfer entrance range of the vice president, and then it it. You know it depends on how the outcome of the election but you have the vice president's overseas the transition Jim Administration if they won the election or transfer it to the other party, but I don't think there's any scenario where. because it because the constitution is very clear on win the inauguration in that transfer of power happens that I don't think you're gonNA have. A situation where even if president trump is incapacitated or worse where the if president by Vice, President Biden won the election, he's not going to be in charge until. January twenty. You Twenty twenty one it's just I. think it just. Creates a lot of. Just uns-. Think at least the people feeling very unsettled about about if that were to happen the vice president would need to be very reassuring. The government is still moving forward or still doing their jobs. Military still following the directions in the Pentagon like to keep sense of of order and hunt nudity would be really important message to send. Right and it's interesting. So one thing that I think could be a question is that if you have a president elect. Let's say if vice. President Biden wins or or something a scenario where that happens. And Heaven forbid that. Anything would happen to him but if the president. If, somebody who wins the election Gets incapacitated in some way what would happen is that? That person a the vice president elect would take over but I've read that there's some question over when someone becomes president elect because mom there's a presumptive president-elect after election day assuming that's what happens assuming that there isn't like A. Contested election and then the electoral college voters meet in their states to cast their ballots and then by then it's kind of becoming more official whose president elect. But then there's the actual counting of the electoral votes in January, before the before the Congress and then there's a question of, is this person president-elect according to the constitution? I'm not sure that that's spelled out..
"president" Discussed on This American President
"Of the twenty Fifth Amendment that the President and majority of the principal officers, the Executive Department which would presumably be the cabinet they would transmit to Congress in the president pro temp of the Senate and Speaker of the House. The intention the vice president taking taking rings of. Jewish or it would be whoever? They yet, that would be the transmission. So that's where he thinking. You know this long is written in the middle of the Cold War send the fear at that time was nuclear war that Juke out the president then. You would have that body within the executive branch of government the cabinet sitting that information to the Senate into the house known find him of the chains and you know that's obviously worst case scenario but you know it's interesting back at. William Henry Harrison died and his number two. Took over. vice-president Tyler they still didn't consider him the president. There is a lot of accusations that he was just the acting president even though we see that his standard. Order of transmission would or secession back then when they didn't, they weren't. They didn't make the constitution precise enough. A question, there is a constant. Out It. Really suffered as President Giddy he could get any nomination through because they were acting as if he was the origin. and. That's one reason why we have the twenty Fifth Amendment is to clarify what would happen in certain situations earned them. So you said in the twenty Fifth Amendment you said that it was the if the vice president and is that a majority of the Cabinet It doesn't say the cabinet, but it says. either. The principal officers of the executive departments, which presumably the cabinets. Or of such other body as Congress may may by law provide and then transmit that to the president of the Senate and the Speaker of the House in writing that the president is able to discharge the powers and duties of the office and a vice president shall immediately. The powers and duties of the office as acting president. And after nine eleven I know that they did a lot of rehearsals in the federal government on continuity of of office of. Women's. Rations where different departments were were role playing what would happen in certain situations would take over because you know we had homeland security by that point and. You know We've seeing the pandemic. The really does require the executive branch remedies, national responses to respond. So it's not just the president's even it's also does executive officers implementing a response to to something so so It doesn't sound like. There's been any kind of a transfer from president trump. He has not made Mike Pence the acting even though there were concerns about his oxygen levels and now we're getting the news that he could be discharged from Walter Reed. which is a good sign as far as health goes. So it doesn't sound like that. Could come into play here but I guess you know hopefully, it won't the always have to prepare. Right. Exactly and you know it. It's not as if he's on a ventilator right now. No. On even the news about him getting oxygen..
"president" Discussed on This American President
"The votes that were attributed to that ticket went to that ticket still and so. I I don't know exactly. But I think that that's the most likely scenario is that there would probably be a dispute over. Leather Devos ardy chastised would still go to the trump tickets but with the order of succession. Thing awful were to happen to the president. Then vice president pence would be the next in line. It's just a matter of how that would go down and I think that would just invoke. Legal issues that would go into the courts is what I think. What happened on that? What I've I've heard is that it's possible that since early voting has happened, people have already voted for either the Democratic or Republican ticket that the parties. The party. If if their nominee is incapacitated that party there, committee would have to shoes potentially new candidate and it's possible that if they choose a new candidate, then what would happen is that whoever they whatever ticket they voted for would be considered a vote for that party since I guess the technicalities that they're voting for the electors to vote for the party's nominee. That's what I've heard I mean there's A lot of sense and I think if that were the case, I think committee would choose Mike Pence but to make it to to not make it any more. Confusing Than to keep it as simple and straightforward as possible that with the idea that people voted for that ticket knowing this indeed did happen to stop the ticket the next in line if they were already, you know the the I think that that would be the most sensible thing right and then the question would probably be if Mike Pence gets elevated, they would still have to choose a vice presidential candidate and I'm not sure what the procedures are per party there there might be specifics about what committee you know who gets to choose and what are the mechanisms but it I've read that's what it sounds like the party would have to choose. Why I think what concerns me is that? The regular order of things is so is a little. It's not on the talk of people's minds. Right but we've had right now we have the confirmation process going forward or an Connie Barrett and you've seen people try to stay. Well, that's legitimate because it's the last year of the presidency will impact the constitution says. The president doesn't can is to nominate the Senate is to confirm it doesn't talk about timing, but that has not stopped questions and trying to make it sound illegitimate even though it very much is. So I think the P. R. Aspect of what would happen would be. Pretty wish even though you know what you said happened with. The. straightforwardness of the ballots people voting for the ticket the Electoral College were nominating people to the call Electoral College? All of that makes her legal sense and but I think we might have some. Just Pr Wise I. Think they're waiting challenges. Demise the process whatever that process legitimately is right now you mentioned the twenty Fifth Amendment and I know there are a few mechanisms with the twenty Fifth Amendment. And you mentioned different presidents who've had to invoke that I recall when President Bush George W Bush was in office. He had a colonoscopy and he invoked it, which means that he basically handed off power to Vice President Cheney as the acting vice? President or I'm sorry is the acting president which can happen that's under the president's own volition. But I know there are also other mechanisms right I in in the twenty Fifth Amendment where the vice president and the cabinet can actually. Say that the president is incapacitated regardless of what the President says do you know anything about those those mechanisms say I mean it's the is section four.
"president" Discussed on This American President
"So we all heard the stunning news on Friday morning around one am that president trump and first lady melania trump tested positive for covid nineteen, and this is just the latest in what has been a roller coaster year with an impeachment, a global pandemic natural disasters, racial divisions, presidential election, a raucous first debate, and now this and many others have also contracted corona virus like Chris Christie and senator. Mike Lee and we wish we wish everyone a quick recovery since the news came out that the president and his wife have covid nineteen. I've got questions about what this means for the election. If the president is in some way incapacitated, and again, we hope that none of this is necessary but it is an opportunity to discuss what could happen in a worst case scenario or any number of scenarios. Our guest today is Jane Hampton Cook She's a historian, the author of resilience on parade a book about the Women's suffrage movement and numerous other books in on American history I have a number of her books right now in my library here our listeners will recognize her since we had her on her on the show not too long ago. So Jane, thanks for being on our show. Thanks for having me so basically. Here we have the president potentially with an incapacitating ailment. Hopefully, that's not the case, but this brings up questions about what would happen so. What possibly could happen if he is incapacitated before the election I think that's where the twentieth amendment would be invoked because they passage of the men in sixties after Kennedy's assassination after. Dwight Eisenhower's. Illnesses in the nineteen fifties and so what would happen my understanding is that Mike Pence vice president would become acting president if the president is incapacitated and that they would have cheer Invo. Doing the paperwork, sending it over to Capitol Hill and in Mike Pence would be an acting president as long as the president is alive but he's incapacitated to that that would be. A scenario that could happen. Now, what would happen with respect to the election? What would be the implications of that? I. Think that's a little less lear because new certainly vice president pence his name on the ballot and you know there were some cases that. Were, you know vice presidential candidate died in..
"president" Discussed on This American President
"Then said, well, why don't you switch your Mo has to quartermaster. Switched over, he started as a tank commander went to infantry. Then moved over into quartermaster went command school ended up. Placing first clashed in both both aspects of and then went back into infantry again, and so it's it's kind of interesting when you talk about our careers and how we have to do things in shift and shape. It's no different from a farm kid from Abilene Kansas. Right now, what do you think about Eisenhower's background and his family life? How did that influence his leadership style throughout his career? So midwesterners just in general. I always say that we are. We are measured people. We we tend to be very thoughtful whenever we do think sometimes we have temporarily he surely had a temper There's no doubt about that. But for the most part I, think that that his background his his. His importance to education doing the right thing and making sure that you had the ideas and thought through things fully before you execute them I think was one of those things that that really shaved his career. You have patent saying you know we need to go all the way into Russia. You have you have. Montgomery. Sitting there saying Oh. Gosh I want to be the first night sitting there saying. We need to work together. This is how we do it. This is the plan. This is the measure. More to their during the day. He actually wrote a letter to my great grandmother saying that you know if anything goes wrong, it is my fault. It takes all responsibility. Takes. Everything off everybody else. It in fact, it was it was. It was actually. Signed wrong. The date was wrong because he had so much pressure going Montreal and eventually. On June fifth. June six have happened and it was an absolute. Amazing amazing accomplishment when you think about it, but more importantly is that one of my favorite that he says is that. Plans me nothing but planning means everything and so the thought process of what will happen with this, what will have that effect that they made a fake harbor? Out of boats and pontoons, all of these things that you could get supplies into France all of those things played a major role. All of that stuff stems from not only understanding what fair values are having empathy understanding what what the next step would be I think that carried over into his presidency as well. Right now when you look at World War Two, you you you read about, Patton, you read about Macarthur and all the great military figures of that time Bradley I mean, you know the list goes on the class that the stars fell on and as they say and yet it was Eisenhower and of course, we have to say General Marshall and it was Eisenhower who became the president among all of them. What about him was was different from all the rest. That's a great question. I don't think I've ever been asked that question before. The truth is, is that besides Bradley think about the Egos and the sense of I'm a warrior I am important that went on during World War Two you have. Everything that was happening in the jetties front. Where no matter what was happening I? I. Was the one that was important. Anchors called of the damn aid ever. but never given the credit of what what he was able to do his strategies when the war started in one, thousand, nine, thirty, nine, I was Carl. You know by nineteen forty one he was to star actually planning out what was going to happen in. Japan? And then was moved into the front, the the European data, which is interesting. All of those things happen by themselves not because I was the guy going out and battlefield but because he was the guy that was thinking through what would happen if something else happened to be honest with you as exactly what you're doing? But it really is it goes back to your thought process how you're learning through things. One thing is, is that one of his first assignments every less less left-wing account Kinda like Ole tes. which was the last person to replace. Ronald, he actually became a coach. For his local is local base. For football I mean all of this stuff has do a strategy. Everybody was understood that he had the ability to think through the problems all the way through again, coming back to the presidency does follow him all the way through where it was able to do that. In addition to that, you believe that it didn't matter got credited songs the job got done and we talk about that all the time in hyperbole. But the truth is that that's how you get successful in life in general is that you don't care about where the credit goes. You just care if the job gets done and being a leader is making sure other people feel. And people are respected and most importantly, and this is something we forget today is being her. Because as much as we think about our own goes, it doesn't matter being in a leadership position as long as you. If you have people that that here you in you're hearing them you may not agree with what was the decision has but at least you've been heard, your point has been made and then the next step can be taken. Right, and I think that that's one of those qualities that as far as what you just said, not wanting the credit but wanting the job. Then that's one of those qualities that people want in a leader but aren't guaranteed in a leader because so many people in politics want the credit. And to be honest with you. Again, if he wasn't from Kansas I, don't think he would have had the same same type of thought process. is a different world there you know back then especially in Kansas, very humble background he knows he knows that people need to be heard. This is where this is roots in. Oh, his mother was was was very religious. It was taught to the most important thing is that he really believed that everybody opinion mattered we as individuals can accomplish some things but us as a group can accomplish great things. Right and one thing interesting about Eisenhower you have a a a figure who was who had worked and collaborated with just incredible figures of that time mentioned you know MacArthur. Mentioned Marshall, and also with other presidents, you know getting to know I mean it was FDR who put him that the task of? And then Truman and Kennedy Nixon what were those relationships like and I. AM. Very. Curious about your take on his relationship with Nixon. There's been so much written about that and for you it's it's for your family. It's a matter of family since Eisenhower Nixon families are married are related through marriage so So, so So take almost got replaced President Nixon almost got replace as vice president during during the first term but. I decided not to, and for whatever reason there is own, it doesn't matter. But. Over the time over over the time that I was in office as united. States. Vice President Nixon at the time was an incredible instrument of getting things done whenever I was for example in the hospital. You know at Walter, Reed having heart attack in nineteen fifty five was the first time. They tried to pass the interstate highway act right and fence. which is our national highway system than we currently and failed availed the because they believed it was a states right issue a tenth amendment issue didn't matter. They voted the interstate commerce caused it was it was a state issue stays problem which at that time it took fourteen days to.
"president" Discussed on This American President
"In our previous episode. We covered the first president of the cold. War Era Harry S Truman. It was under President Truman. That America initiated its policy of containment to contain wooded considered the greatest threat to world peace the Soviet Union this new conflict. The Cold War was unlike anything ever before it now. Two nations dominated the globe and with the development of thermonuclear weapons had the capacity to destroy civilization itself. History had entrusted Harry Truman with defense of the free world and he confronted crisis after crisis always with the specter of nuclear war in the background but now Truman's presidency was over and he had left the world's stage in his place was one of the most capable and experienced leaders in American history. His name was Dwight. David Eisenhower the great hero of world. War Two the Supreme Allied Commander who had invaded Normandy defeated Hitler and liberated Europe now Eisenhower or Ike. As his friends called him had the responsibility of leading the free world during this dangerous time. Few people today can recall the major events or accomplishments of Eisenhower's presidency too many. He is Amir transitional. Figure the president who served during the Stale and Cookie Cutter Nineteen fifties between the years of war under FDR and Truman and the social upheaval. Under Kennedy and Johnson but Eisenhower was no mere interlude like Truman. His presidency was one of crises. When American credibility and nuclear war were constantly at stake every decision he made involved delicate balance of terror. That could mean either peace or annihilation. How Eisenhower maintained that piece in avoided? Armageddon is the subject of this episode of this American President.
"president" Discussed on This American President
"And World War World War Two and then after the Cold War afterwards in how each of those lessons strengthen that generation to take on new challenges, and my hope is that it will do the same for our generation as well and our country. Yeah, I think it's I think a lot of ways though this does bring back a lot of those tough choices that America faced in the. The Early Twentieth Century in the Mid Twentieth Century, where I mean right now. I mean New York is talking about sort of the rationing ventilators, and this is obviously a really tough choice. Right because you have to decide who gets one based on age on viability, with the investment is going to be ultimately. The these are tough choices that no human wants to make but. When you think about. What Truman kind of questions Truman was asking himself at least a you know. Whether to drop the bomb on Japan, this was this was a really really really difficult choice. Right when you're talking about huge moral hazards and trade offs and things like this. What what? We, we've. We've had base by becoming so rich and so powerful and a lot of ways we've. We've sort of done away with a lot of these tough choices that our ancestors faced that we don't have to make choices between sacrificing life and wealth. At least up until now so I think in a lot of ways this bringing back a lot of those tough questions that not too long ago, our ancestors would have looked at them and said yeah, that's life. Yeah, no, that's true and. Obviously there's some silver linings that happen here and there I think that the people are just are adjusting to these things in many ways. They're staying home in spending more time with friends and family, and there's some good things and I mean you know it's really heartbreaking the stories you're hearing. I mean people. I have a friend who? Left a job that she had been for years at..
"president" Discussed on This American President
"Basically the wives weren't thrilled about this because they're they're. They're training. They want to execute the mission well, but then they have to deal with all these PR events, but apparently the Hong. Kong is going on at that time in one of them. One other wives was really scared that they would contract this flu, and then go into space, and then get sick and one of the astronauts ended up getting sick, but it wasn't from the flu is mainly. It was A. You know stomach issues and things like that so anyways you see this story about flus and things like that that creep up every now and then, and it's really fascinating, and it's something I think. Historically more people will probably take a look at, and it's a good reminder to this stuff does happen. Yeah I think It's it's just. It's just interesting I think compared to just how seriously we take this this the this kind of thing, nowadays and you know I think back back to what we're saying at the beginning of the conversation. You and I were sort of tossing predictions as to what this would lead to. Again you know I thought would be disruptive I. Mean I think around what mid to late February you started to see the Dow tank. And I think for a lot of people. I saw it as a temporary setback, but I mean just. The global disruption in trade has been just astounding. The the Dow had lost. I, mean it I mean it was two thousand eight level sort of Dow doubt losses, and it was incredible to see a very bad way obviously That that made me think okay..
"president" Discussed on This American President
"A lot has happened since our last episode. Many things have happened I'm sure as you all know and the first. I WanNa say is about Oh maybe a month and a half ago so right now it is early April about a month and a half ago. I was at work. was talking to my coworker worker. Joey and Joey happens to be. SOMEONE WHO's helped us out on editing our podcast, so he's actually been here with me. As you know, we record our podcast and he's been helping for about a two three episodes and I see him at work every day. With our day jobs on related to the PODCAST. And we were talking. And I think just about current events and the economy stuff that you see in the news. And he said to me that he thinks that there's something more to this corona virus, and at the time it was still happening, but mainly in Asia, it hadn't come over to the United. States it hadn't happened. Around the world yet, but he basically said something to the effect of I think there's more to this than what people are saying, and it's going to be a lot worse than what people think it will be, and not only that, but it's going to hurt the economy. It's GonNa. Really change everything and you know the economy. Generally speaking, the news had been good and he he basically said that was going to change and me being you know the humble history guy that always talks about how you know you shouldn't think you know the future. I basically scoffed at him I said. What are you even talking about? Joey there's no way that can happen. That's ridiculous. Lo and behold it has happened. Joey is a prophet. Never Doubt Joey Brown ever again and so we decided to have him on odd cast right now. He's not just an editor, but he is a a Modern Day prophet, so joey welcome the show. Thanks for having me Richard and just to clarify. I don't think that my pronouncement was a prophetic it was. Definitely just a guess. Just just the way things were seeming over Back in, let's see you said earlier people. Now it's probably. A right and and the you could read news reports where it was talking about how China was tanning entire provinces, and you know it. It didn't seem good and I was. You know the fact that they're shutting down business over. There suggest that it might be more than just and I think at the time with people were calling. It was just a variant of the flu. And I think I think a lot of people were a little suspicious of that claim. You know your humility only confirms that you truly are a prophet. I'm just GONNA. Leave it at that I said I'm just kidding. I don't think you have some divine revelation on this, but. You definitely had a better grasp over what was happening than a lot of other people. Including so just wanted to say that. Joe Brown more than just an editor. I I think it had a lot more to do with a general over arching sense of pessimism than it.
"president" Discussed on This American President
"You know what has happened since then but obviously at the time they know that. And it's one thing to read about a crisis and to know. This was a very difficult time. It was a scary time. There was a lot at stake and people felt unsure. And it's another thing to live through it and I think right now we're living through that because you know for all the all the projections that are out there. I don't think most people predicted that this would happen. And none of us really know and it's GonNa end we don't know and we don't know what it's GonNa look like when life becomes normal again. I mean I hear about people talking about how this is going to change. Are People going to shake hands anymore? You know one one of my friends told me that you know she's from the South and people are very friendly in the south and But there's something different now when people see each other. There's kind of you know social distancing becomes kind of. There's almost like an element of of I don't know I I hate to say up. Maybe fear and so you know we're in a crisis right now. Very serious crisis At the same time I think that crises also bring out the best in people and our generation. I mean we've gone through a good amount. You know we went through nine eleven. We went the two thousand and eight. I mean we my generation being I guess you could say generation millennials. We grew up very comfortable. You know he grew up in the eighties nineties and and it was generally very good time in your case. It was the ninety s thousands. But we've also gone through some pretty tough times to you this included and so my hope is that just like in previous generations when you look at say the greatest generation that endured the depression in the war and World War World War Two and then after the Cold War afterwards in. How each of those lessons Strengthen that generation to take on new challenges and my hope is that it will do the same for our generation as well and our country. Yeah I think it's I think a lot of ways though this does bring back a lot of those tough choices that America faced in the Early Twentieth Century in the Mid Twentieth Century. Where I mean right now I mean New York is talking about sort of the Rationing ventilators and this is obviously a really tough choice right because you have to decide Who gets one based on age on viability With the investment is going to be ultimately the these are tough choices that no human wants to make but when you think about what Truman kind of questions Truman was asking himself. At least a you know whether to drop the bomb on Japan this was. This was a really really really difficult choice. Right when you're talking about huge moral hazards and trade offs and things like this. What what we. We've we've had base by becoming so rich and so powerful and a lot of ways we've we've sort of done away with a lot of these tough choices that our ancestors faced that we don't have to make choices between Sacrificing life and wealth at least up until now So I think in a lot of ways this is bringing back a lot of those tough questions that not too long ago. our ancestors would have looked at them and said. Yeah that's life Yeah no that's true and you know. Obviously there's some silver linings that happen here and there. I think that the people are just are adjusting to these things in many ways. They're staying home in spending more time with friends and family. And there's some good things and I mean you know. It's really heartbreaking the stories you're hearing I mean people. I have a friend who left a job that she had been for years at and she started a new job with a company. And now she's GonNa get laid off because of this. What happened? I mean it's it's just horrible. You know when you hear about people getting infected. I mean it's it's tragic and at the same time. Sometimes these things do bring out the best in people and I. I hope it continues to do so. Obviously you hear the stories of your friends who are in the medical profession. And they're just. They're working their butts off. They're not taking breaks. Their people's lives are in their hands. And you know they're they're putting themselves at risk because they're they're working with people that that have that could have the The virus or do have it. So that's definitely something that it's inspiring and we really hope and pray that they have the strength to do what they have to do and hope that our leaders have the wisdom to do what they have to do as well so I think we also have a lot of responsibilities that are that are put on all of us not just people working in the medical field and this is one of those those really tough times. That's going to. I hope at least bring people together without of course bringing them physically together and a lot of that is is a lot. It's new for us. It's weird that we've sort of defined the the the good thing you can do right now is stay at home. And and and keep clear of people to the to the greatest extent. Possible that the greatest way to help people out now and and yes even save lives is by staying home And that but definitely makes this challenge different than than any that I can remember where where the sort of the again the greatest act of heroism is just is just making sure that you are not flooding. The hospitals with more people right exactly well one thing. I also wanted to mention his that. Our Cold War series still going on and so we expect to have new episodes coming soon. We just finished our series on Truman. We have a series on Eisenhower. Coming up so going chronologically and we hope to still continue to bring you that That series and the episodes that come on after Eisenhower but again thank you to our listeners. We really appreciate your support Those who donated to our kickstarter and those who listen. We appreciate that so much It really it makes it all worth it. And it's great to share that passion with people and we just hope everyone stay safe. Do everything you can to stay safe and for your families The people that you love and make sure you still stay connected with people. That's very important and Joey thank you for your time. Just thank you for for being For being a prophet. I I feel like we need to Vegas. Let's go to Las Vegas or something I just.
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"Things seem so distant in the past and they they're just truly not this this in the you can you can go online and basically most of the news you'll read today and for the past couple of weeks was about cove in nineteen and that's that's that's something. I don't think I have seen in my lifetime and so about history a very interesting example that I've been reading about lately and it's not an episode in history that I could say I've studied too much about but people are talking naturally about the great Spanish flu the great influenza of one thousand nine hundred eighteen to nineteen twenty ish about one hundred years ago and honestly that story I. It's fascinating what I've read about it. And just the cost that I mean it's just staggering right before that you had world war one in fact it was going on during World War One and that being the great war the worst war in history up to that time and that killed millions of people and it it introduced Just kind of new levels of of horror and agony that people were experiencing because of the war. You know people know about this. The trench warfare and Just the levels of casualties. That really dwarfed anything that happened previously and then after that or actually during that war the virus that would become the great influenza showed up in the soldiers as the United States soldiers as they were mobilising to go to Europe and I believe they sought in Kansas. You know when the soldiers were getting prepared to to go over to Europe and it followed them there and before you knew it. It spread like wildfire all across the world. And as we know it. It's known as the Spanish flu. Because so much of the world including the United States had basically a censored all information about it and President Wilson who was president at the time of the United States. he very vigorously his administration. Very vigorously prosecuted or enforce the Sedition Act which essentially made it illegal to speak out against the war and one of those things that might undermine the war. Effort was discussion of the pandemic which to me. It's really incredible. When you think about something like that. I mean I you know we live in a world today where we scrutinize everything. Our politicians say just one hundred years ago which is our grandparents may be great grandparents probably great grandparents lifetimes there was a situation where most of the rich nations wealthy nations of the world. They advanced nations and You know the United States we were all censoring this information and when you have a situation like that happening in which information is basically a life or death thing people did not have the information they needed in order to take the right precautions. So there's this amazing story of how officials in Philadelphia during World War One. They that this pandemic was a serious threat and there was a parade scheduled a parade in the city which in support of the war effort. And they knew that this pandemic virus could spread like wildfire. If you have an event like this but they still let the event continue. I mean it's it's really incredible. It's something that now. It's just unthinkable. Now you hear stories about people that are Going to the beach and all that kind of stuff and obviously a lot of people have strong opinions about that. Some people feel like that's very careless. Imagine if something like that happened where you know city officials basically Government officials suppressed any information about it. They allowed these big events to happen. And as a result of these events people gathered thousands of people got infected people died. And what's remarkable? Is that you look at the number of people that died Americans that died in World War One and you look at the number of people that died in Because of the great flew the influenza more people died in the great flew. The Spanish flu then died in the American civil war which was the war in which most Americans were killed. I mean this was a catastrophic event. I can't imagine living in a time like that. Imagine a time where a war is going on. People are getting killed and then a flu happens. Which is it's you know. Kills even more people and worldwide. You had fifty two hundred million people that died that dwarf even our statistics here in the United States. And this is after the civilized world had gone through World War One it's just staggering to me One thing that kind of adds to the against the fascination with that time is that there's a lot of speculation that woodrow Wilson himself. Actually got the Spanish flu. There's debate about it. Some people think that he had a heart attack but basically as the story goes in as a covered a little bit in our previous podcasts. Our previous episodes basically Woodrow Wilson. While he was negotiating the peace treaty which would become the Treaty of our Si- a at the end of World War. One he during the negotiations got very sick and apparently after this illness had began behaving erratically and changed his policy positions. He started thinking that there were spies around him which is very possible but he got very paranoid and started making decisions. You know erratically. And so essentially his his thinking kind of changed and the outcome of the treaty possibly was altered by that because Wilson decided to side closer with the allies against the Germans which led to a piece of vengeance which led to the resentment that fueled the rise of of Hitler. And Nazism. Now there's a long chain there many events I'm simplifying obviously but in some senses. It's possible that an illness. Perhaps the Spanish flu had implications beyond anything beyond anything. Anyone realized that the timing applications that had that had a great effect on how the twentieth century would turn out so really when you look at that story and how important it is to learn from that story and hope that we're learning from those stories today as we confront the pandemic. It's it's it is interesting to see does not look like at least from my perspective. That would Joe Wilson the handle this very well at all Earliest compared to At least how. We're how we're handling. Covert nineteen right now. I mean I mean you know a lot of people say that we've been laid on the ball and sort of dealing with it and it certainly seems that way if we heard about it you know months prior but the the you know Americans are every American is aware of what's going on right now every American. No matter what they're doing is at least aware that they should be inside and practicing social distancing that was not the case in the. Early Twentieth Century. Under Woodrow Wilson. Right and there's a great book out on that whole story it's about the pandemic generally speaking but it's called the great influenza the story of the deadliest pandemic in history it's written by historian named John Berry and one of the tag lines for that book is called the strongest. It says the strongest weapon against pandemic is the truth. And so that to me when you talk about information how important. That is really underscores. That and John Berry. He's one of those historians that does believe it. Wilson actually had The the Spanish flow. So I mean if you could think of a time where an heaven forbid but you're seeing so many people get the corona virus you know. You're seeing the celebrities Tom. Hanks you're seeing athletes. Get This and heaven forbid that it starts affecting people that are making decisions that really impact us. That already is happening right. I mean Boris Johnson. The the Prime Minister of the UK And so and so forth but none of this was theory during the great flu of one thousand nine hundred nineteen nineteen. This was actually happening. And I just can't even imagine what that must have been like for people when you hear about that and you hear about other flus other pandemics watching this documentary. Few days ago on Apollo eight the moon mission three missions before Apollo eleven but it was the first Apollo eight was the first mission to go round to go around the moon and come back. Didn't land on the moon but it went around this was in nineteen sixty eight and the interviewed one of the spouses without the wife of one of the Sorry one of the astronauts and before the mission the astronauts. So this is Frank Frank Borman Jim Lovell and Bill Anders. They actually went to the White House to meet with President Nixon and meet with a bunch of dignitaries and basically the wives weren't thrilled about this because they're they're they're training they want to execute the mission well but then they have to deal with all these PR events but apparently the Hong Kong is going on at that time in one of them one other wives was really scared that they would contract this flu and then go into space and then get sick and one of the astronauts ended up getting sick but it wasn't from the flu is mainly it was a you know stomach issues and things like that so anyways you see this story about Flus and things like that that creep up every now and then and it's really fascinating and it's something. I think historically more people will probably take a look at and it's a good reminder to this stuff does happen yeah I think It's it's just it's just interesting. I think compared to just how seriously we take this this the this kind of thing nowadays And you know I think back back to what we're saying at the beginning of the conversation you and I were sort of tossing predictions as to what this would lead to again. You know I thought would be disruptive I mean I think around what mid to late February you started to see the Dow tank and I think for a lot of people. I saw it as a temporary setback but I mean just the global disruption in trade has been just astounding the the Dow had lost. I mean it I mean it was two thousand eight level sort of Dow Doubt losses and it was incredible to see a very bad way obviously That that made me think okay. You know. This is happening in China. China's quarantining entire cities. This this has got to have If not just ramifications for for Asia definitely ramifications for global trade. And we're definitely seeing that affect now. Yeah you know one thing that I've been thinking about a lot lately. So we just released our Truman episodes. Joey you you played a big role in that. So we're very appreciative of getting those out there but one thing that the the big thing that keeps going through. Truman's administration is so story was that it was. It was literally crisis after crisis he turns because president during World War One or sorry World War Two has to decide to drop the bomb and then from then on. It's the crisis continues. You know he had the Cold War. He had Korea the hydrogen bomb. And you read these crises and you know how they end..
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"A lot has happened since our last episode Many things have happened. I'm sure as you all know and the first I wanNA say is about. Oh maybe a month and a half ago so right now it is early April about a month and a half ago I was at work was talking to my co worker. Joey and Joey happens to be someone. Who's helped us out on. Editing our podcast. So He's actually been here with me as you know. We record our podcast. And he's been helping for about a two three episodes And I see him at work every day with our day jobs unrelated to the podcast and we were talking and I think just about current events and the economy stuff that you see in the news and he said to me that he thinks that there's something more to this corona virus and at the time it was still happening but mainly in Asia. It hadn't come over to the United States. It hadn't happened around the world yet but he basically said something to the effect of. I think there's more to this than what people are saying. And it's going to be a lot worse than what people think it will be and not only that but it's going to hurt the economy. It's GonNa really change everything and you know the economy. Generally speaking the news had been good and he he basically said that was going to change and me being you know the humble history guy that always talks about how you know. You shouldn't think you know the future. I basically scoffed at him. I said what are you even talking about Joey? There's no way that can happen. That's ridiculous Lo and behold it has happened. Joey is a prophet. Never Doubt Joey Brown ever again and so we decided to have him on odd. Cast right now. He's not just an editor but he is a a Modern Day Prophet. So Joey welcome the show. Thanks for having me Richard and just to clarify. I don't think that my pronouncement was Prophetic it was definitely just a guess. Just just the way. Things were seeming over Back in let's see you said earlier people now February ish a right and and the you could read news reports where it was talking about how China was corn teaming entire provinces. And you know it. It didn't seem good and I was. You know the fact that they're shutting down business over there suggest that it might be more than just and I think at the time with people were calling. It was just a variant of the flu and I think I think a lot of people were a little suspicious of that claim. You know your humility only confirms that you truly are a prophet. So I'm just GONNA leave it at that. I said I'm just kidding. I don't think you have some divine revelation on this but you definitely had a better grasp over what was happening than a lot of other people myself included so just wanted to say that. Joe Brown more than just an editor I. I think it had a lot more to do. With a general over arching sense of pessimism than it had anything to do with me getting it right I think over the last what four years. I haven't made a single correct political prediction so it was bound to happen at son-in-law the whole broken clock thing right right exactly. I think that's that's exactly what happened right right. Well that's good enough to get on our podcast so so. This is a special episode. Life is very different now. Obviously for everybody including ourselves. You know just like all of you. We have our day jobs and our responsibilities and this virus has hit us in the same way. And you know we are working from home. We're doing the social distancing and we had to try to find a way to record this podcast without being around each other and increasing the risk to anybody and so it's it's changed life for us. It's changed life for everyone else. Life Quarantine is quite different. It's quite an experience Joey. How how's this experience for you? It's it's difficult. I mean and I think and I think most people are finding that you know whether they're working from home or just trying to weather out this pandemic. It's it's really tough It's it's definitely. It's it's a struggle to find things to do every day when I'm not doing work in that yeah right and I mean obviously we have our families we have our our parents and our grandparents and everyone that we you know friends that we care about especially those in the vulnerable population. So obviously that's a concern for us and for everyone else and we just hope that everyone stays safe. And does all the right things with the social distancing and everything like that And one thing I will say is that it helps to have modern technology and being able to stay in touch being able to text people do skype calls and everyone's talking about zoom. Now all that stuff so that that's been helpful in the sense that you don't have to feel as isolated as as you would otherwise so okay. Well WE ARE HISTORY. Podcast and obviously. There's a lot of historical insights about this first of all the thing that really stands out to me. Is that this. Pandemic is really unprecedented for people for for people like US Americans People our age. Who grew up. I grew up in the eight hundred nine zero in the nineties and two thousands. And so it's funny because I think growing up there all these documentaries and movies talking about natural disasters right whether it's a major earthquake growing up in California. That's what people always talk about. And you hear about like bio bio weapons and things like that and and pandemics being one of those threats but And you you always hear in those those kind of programs that you know this could happen. And we're not prepared and government reports or agencies. We'll talk about how this is a possibility and yet really. It's something that none of us really honestly think could happen. I mean I. It's something they hypothetically could happen. But it's not something that all of us are kind of thinking. Oh man if that happens that's really going to change my life and I'm going to prepare for this and I think history is one of those things that can have a lot of value to this because history shows. No this stuff does happen. And they don't just happen in parts of the world that you don't know about they happen and you know the you know the the major countries they happen. I rode countries. They happen everywhere. I mean really pandemics. I mean it's a sign of just the kind of world we live in you know it's an imperfect world there are plagues. There are good things that happened in this world. There are bad things that happen in this world. Now that's something I've been thinking a lot of during this time. Where yes it is possible for something on the other side of the world super friendly effect people here and you know you think about the people talking about the wet markets in China and here. We are the world's strongest economy is basically shut down because of that it compared to two recent it least Semi recent viral outbreaks. This is definitely the most disruptive I remember and I think at least in my lifetime the two biggest ones of course where SARS and Murs and they they don't really I mean murmurs was an interesting one because I'm just doing quick research online There was an outbreak in in Saudi Arabia. Twenty twelve's and the it was. It was not a very infectious or contagious disease. That apparently it was transmitted from dromedary camels and on the first of the listeners who are really into camels they know that's a one humped camel. Yeah and it was transmitted to to to some person who had it and then they went to a hospital and transmitted to a bunch of other people and the death rate. I think the the the mortality rate for Moore's was like a third of people that caught it at least at least that's what the I think that the the whol was reporting Which is pretty high. But it wasn't able to spread that quickly and so or really well at all and in fact most of the time it was spreading it was in Sort of a medical setting the hospital setting where you have patients in close contact with medical providers And then they had another outbreak of murders in two thousand fifteen in South Korea where South Korean man was in. Bahrain came into contact with someone or a camel and brought it back to South Korea and there was a substantial outbreak in South Korea but they contained it pretty quickly But but I mean the the novel Corona Virus outbreak. Just I mean it. It's crazy the extent to which it's shutdown just everything. I was had been in Israel for a while before cove in nineteen really took off. You know this is just a month ago. Basically yeah a couple of weeks ago and then I had spent you know about a month. I guess a month since I had gotten there. Yeah and I I mean Israel locked down quite a number of things I mean stores hotels basically airbnb where the only thing that was open and I come back to the United States and go into grocery store. 'cause I I don't have food after I've gotten back and completely cleaned out of toilet paper and And for some reason all of the canned goods with the exception of Pinto beans. I don't think people like those very much so it was. It was quite shocking. I mean just I I I knew it would be or at least I thought it would be disruptive but not to the extent that it that it has been right and it's been a year twenty twenty. This year has been such an eventful year already. You have a things that honestly seem like years ago. But they were just months ago whether it was president. Trump's impeachment and that obviously in it of itself was a big historic event. Not An event in which the outcome was unexpected but still an event of note and then you have a lot going on with Iran and when when president trump ordered the death of general Sulejmani. You had Kobe Bryant Steph. You had the election which is its own thing and there was it looked for a while that Bernie Sanders is going to get the nomination and then Biden is defeated him and several primaries. And then miss so you just have. I guess it's just one of those years. You know you look at different years in history and some of them really stand out as far as being very eventful nineteen sixty eight being being one of them and right now. We're living through a year. That already has been quite eventful. And it's only April. I mean we're not even we're barely a third of the way court of the way there and it's weird the like this the the extent to which all of those events that you mentioned you know. Trump's impeachment Kobe. Bryant's death all these..
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"He was initially naive about cooperation with Stalin. But it can't be denied that after spending much of his presidency thinking of ways to contain communism he understood its nature as well as any American statesman on July twentieth. Nineteen fifty three Harry. Truman left office at the age of sixty eight. He moved back to his hometown of Independence Missouri. He wrote his memoirs and raise money to build his presidential library. Truman lived long enough to see. Eisenhower served two terms and leave office and to see. Jfk Win Johnson. And Richard Nixon become president peeve and saw man walk on the Moon he died on December twenty six thousand nine hundred seventy two at the age of eighty eight at the urging of his widow best. He did not line state but a simple private funeral on the grounds of his presidential library. Near the end of his presidency Truman had a chat with Winston Churchill. The British prime minister reflected back on when Truman took office in one thousand nine forty-five and said quote. I must confess sir. I held you in very low regard. Ben I load. You're taking the place of Franklin Roosevelt. I misjudged you badly since that time. You more than any other man has saved Western civilization that quote in a sense summarizes Harry Truman's presidency when FDR died Americans feared what the future hadn't store. It was a world in ruins from the war with a rising communist threat and the atomic genie released from the bottle. During Truman's term the American people face crises of global proportions Harry. Truman had to make decisions that I would never wish on another person. Different presidents are dealt different hands and Sherman was dealt one of the toughest. No matter what he did he would forever be remembered as the president who ordered the first and so far only two atomic attacks in history he initiated the development of the hydrogen bomb. He committed American troops in a controversial war that ruined his popularity all without a congressional declaration of war. Whatever else he did those decisions will forever influence. How most people see him? I remember in college in Grad School. Hearing my fellow students criticized Truman's decision to drop the bomb to them. It seemed that Truman was reckless and had little understanding of the decisions he was making but to me. This kind of evaluation seems a bit hasty. I've already talked about how the real choice wasn't between using the bomb or not using it but between using the bomb or invading Japan. Both of which were terrible choices but the evidence also seems to indicate that. Truman and his men his advisors did know the significance of what they were doing. They did know that. The atomic age represented something new and dangerous enrolled history. I also remember my grandfather while I was growing up. He would sometimes talk about Truman and he didn't really liked him very much. He was from China. He's passed away since but he a lifelong hatred of the communist Chinese government and he faulted Truman for firing macarthur in not allowing him to liberate North Korea and invade Japan. In his is the last chance to topple. The communist regime was lost under Truman from Truman's perspective he had limited MacArthur's mission for fear of provoking a World War. He feared that the Soviet Union newly armed with nuclear technology would respond or full blown. War would erupt with China for Truman limiting the war meant preventing a Third World War but in doing so he was essentially sacrificing millions North Korea to the yoke of communism these were the agonizing dilemmas. Truman had to face. There is a fair debate about the wisdom of these policies. I've heard many say that America should have gone all out to win the Korean War and others who say we shouldn't have been Korean. The first place others criticize how Truman wage the war they cite the fact that he committed troops to a war without actually declaring a war. They say that this action paved the way for future interventions that ended up being clogged Myers like in Vietnam and Afghanistan and they strengthen executive power to make war a- power that the constitution granted to Congress. There may be validity to this argument depending on where you sit. If there's one thing that I can say it's at these decisions seem easier to make when you don't have the specter of World War three hanging over your head or aren't trying to prevent the advance of a totalitarian state or trying to secure freedom for millions of people all of this ties into another criticism when the ten expressed the idea that Truman expanded America's containment policy beyond what was feasible that he took the original strategy based on managing costs on picking and choosing your battles and expanded it to the point of American over-extension militarizing the nation's foreign policy successor. President Eisenhower would seek to reduce the costs and warned against over extension and ultimately the military industrial complex again. There may be validity to these arguments depending on what you believe but whatever the means were Truman. I believe was sincere in his determination to defend the free world against the communist world all without provoking direct conflict between the superpowers. It was a fine line to walk but he did it as well as anyone could expect from a man with little preparation for the job. It's often said that Truman represented the common man. One critic even said that he was a common man's common man deathly not a compliment. He seemed to many to be remarkable. He was far from perfect. P had a quick temper and was prone to salty language when he left office he was one of the least popular presidents in history but in a recent C-SPAN survey of historians. Truman was ranked the sixth grade as president of all time. Although his decision still provoked controversy. Historians have come to respect Truman sense of history his integrity his determination and his willingness to make difficult decisions historians realized that though common he was he had the gift of something that was often lacking in politics common sense. I've mentioned how much Truman's advisers admired him. These are brilliant men and they were serving a man who had no college education who wants had been a farmer and had salesman but they knew what he was made of. They knew that he was a leader. Truman had earned the respect. I also mentioned Truman's love for his wife Bess. Yes Truman was feisty with a sharp tongue but he also had a strong moral compass. That could never be shaken. One story illustrates is character when the nineteen forty. Eight presidential election was approaching true and was expected to run for his own terms president which eventually ended up doing but before the campaign. He actually offered the top spot on the ticket. To General Eisenhower was enormously popular telling him that he'd be happy to run as his vice president. Mike was rather taken aback by this and swore off any political ambitions illustrated who Harry Truman was. He was still the man he was when he left. Missouri practical home spun and unawed by power. It's hard to imagine any president willing to subordinate himself as Truman was willing to do. Its sometimes easy to look at Truman as a historical accident in some ways he was. It's a bit unsettling to remember that. His elevation to the presidency during such a critical time was not the product of a well thought out process but more due to political convenience he was the first president of the Nuclear Age the first US chief executive to unambiguously be the most powerful man in the world who could alter the destiny of mankind with a single order at the same time. He is likely the last president of his kind. It's hard to imagine another President One without a college degree. Not really looking to seek the office. Someone who looks like a statesman and more like your next door neighbor. Someone like him. It's hard to see rising to the White House anytime soon. Then again. Human events have a way of surprising us even today regardless Americans now seem grateful that such a decisive leader rose during such a decisive time. Harry Truman story is the American story. A former Haberdasher who became president and made decisions that still echo throughout history. It proves once again that the unlikeliest and lease the steamed of men can rise to the heights of power and leave a profound imprint on. The world.
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"Oh, if you do this this will happen, you know, and it's all in the air force. We call it. Delridge ranges angles in vir- for this topic. It's it's all probabilities. Sure. You know, you wanna slow down for the stop sign. You wanna plow through the stop sign. You wanna stop for the stop sign all you're doing affecting your probabilities in most instances, it's not gonna make any difference. But the probabilities are different over time. They're going to be differences. Sure. And that's that's kind of the way we would culture are warnings right now whenever there's a presidential election. I I'm not in the intelligence community when there's an election, and they're all these different candidates. And when the icy looks at these people these are their potential commanders chief, and I'm sure there's obviously maybe not concerns the right word, but there's interest in what kind of. President will this be the intelligence community. What do people in the icy think of during the election? So so one remarkable thing is they don't talk about it very much -mongst themselves. Sure. All right. There's I mean, there's I mean, we don't please people chatter at the water gore. Yeah. There's just a general reluctance, given the the nature of the business Scher that you you. Don't talk politics. Right, right. You just stick to our mission. It's hard enough. Sure. I will say that the transition to this presidency is the most difficult on record. And it was because well, lots of reasons I frankly think it's personality the president is kind of disinterested. And just interest in these kinds of things based on a base of almost non-existent information about these kinds of things, but the on that all right, which would have been hard enough. It was a great national tragedy. At the first time we had talked to the new president. President-elect was on an issue that other Americans were using to challenge his legitimacy as president on the Russian intervention poisoned the relationship. I see. Yeah. We thought we were telling the truth, and he thought we were trying to challenge his presidency. Now one very interesting aspect of your book. Is you talk about health, and you briefed congress and that how you brief them dozens of times intelligence community. I think you also mentioned judiciary committee services armed services. Yeah. Lots of different political jockeying in those situations. What lessons did you learn? Yeah. Bet can help you know, ic- officials with my my council is go longer. Many members of the committee as possible as much as you can as early as you can. Okay. All right. And frankly, I mean, you won't be put it in the mean-spirited throat away force in the tell you don't do it when everyone's scared, and no one knows what the future holds, you know, don't don't give him the hall pass that allows them to complain about what it is you're doing when you tell them later after. No scared in the futures known. I it was just such a unique time to where it was. And frankly, the president for lots of reasons some of them, political sure others ethical should have shared this responsibility with the congress. Okay. Okay. For the most part. And I look I informed on we met the letter of the law which allows the president to inform only a narrow fraction of the committee's. Sharon ranking member. All right. But I in retrospect, the more, practical course of action would have would have been to of briefed all the members of the committee early on as completely as possible and again and again forced to sent early right which would have been at a cost because they would then be buying increased danger rather than allowing descent later, which was at no cost in your book. You basically talked about you guys briefed members of congress multiple times. And basically later on a lot of these member these. Senators congressman is very dishonest about what you brief them. This honest or selective in their memory to be fair to them that really busy..
"president" Discussed on This American President
"Another thing that that stood out to me is he he pressed hard on you personally, when it came to some bin Laden understandable and also on Iran. Yeah. If you could just kind of talk experienced member. Remember that the two big priorities were counterterrorism and kind of preparation right in the Bush administration. And so what he really wanted to know about Iran was well where are they on the nuclear program, but more importantly, and this was harder. How did they make decisions where the points of leverage g how do I do? I hurt influence that was really hard because it's a very opaque society government. The other one was terrorism and Osama bin Laden may just set a personal view quite understandably. Sure that he would love to have been the one to take Osama bin Laden off the battlefield now, we had we had tremendous success against Al Qaeda, while President Bush was president particularly against Al Qaeda's number three, boom. They had many because the life expectancy for number three was measured in weeks, and you know, number one and number two bin Laden and ZOA hairy. They contributed to the move. By simply staying alive shirt. Number three was chief of operations. He had to do stuff yet communicate. Right. It run run there. And that gave us a footprint, and we were remarkably successful dismantling the CUDA operational network. Although we do not get bin Laden under President Bush's watch right right now. President Obama gets elected president. You know, the intelligence community is standing by for who wins. What what does that transition? Like. Yeah, we had we had a team in Chicago. We had a team in Arizona ready to brief the president-elect the next morning, and it was gonna be the same briefing, the President Bush got modest covert action. If there were church and items in there that would come in due course. Okay. All right. But as far as we're concerned, you carry the electoral college get the briefing chur, and we were ready to go. Sure, what has your interaction been with President Obama brief prisoner Bama on covert action in December after the election?.
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"What I try to impress upon folks. These your friends and everything by the way, if you live we're talking right now, and they are your friends in literally, right? Yeah. You may not know it a lot of agency folks out there in the civilian community. Go to church, go to the soccer games and your kids intermingle with their kids. And and so on they share your values. They are just forced by their profession to apply these common values and circumstances. You probably will never face and may never even know about. But they do share your values. Yeah. And that's one thing you talked about a lot as far as how how much you guys cared about the people that that worked for you guys, obviously and wanted to protect them for many kind of harm that might come from disclosures or anything like that. And that seems like a big responsibility for whoever is running those agencies now just a few things as far as the interesting things that happened day-to-day. I know that you you basically briefed the president on covert actions often in there for the briefing as well, the president Stalybridge sure, just you know, to know, what what all that is like as far as you can say and George Bush had a lot of time, George W so does dead, but George W Bush's the president, I served the longest time. Right. And he had a lot of time for intelligence, and he was an incredibly interactive client. He did not sit back passively and just let us drone on with the briefing. He engaged he pushed back. He asked questions. He said he would say that's not what you told me two months ago. Sure. And challenge things we were saying and so for an intelligence officer. That's that's pretty good client that someone that you appreciate. And he gave us the time. He took the president's daily brief in person six days a week every week of the year. Oh, wow. So you saw almost every day. But. Well. Someone in there like me. I saw him regularly on Thursdays, whereas suggested earlier I did the covert action briefing and you were appointed originally by President Clinton. Right. And just looking around. You know, have a lot of portrait's when you and president George H W Bush, what could you talk about those two men and just so I did not ever meet President Clinton in a professional capacity. Okay. Okay. My first meeting with George W Bush was a week or two after nine eleven. So he's been in office for what eight months when on. I saw them. I had worked for his dad, George H W Bush when he was president. I was on the national Security Council. Okay. And so I mean, he didn't know me all that. Well, but he was aware of that. I was on the staff you realize he was one of my predecessors. Hey, let's true. All right. So when President Bush w came out for my formal swearing in. He came into my office, and I had moved in with any of the knickknacks books, and so on and looks around just absolutely bare shelves and says to me and my family, you can tell a lot about a man by his library. And then I said. We're you're in this office before Mr President. We did you come here when your father. CIA president it. Nope. Too much of a security risk then. The sounds exactly like what he would say. That's great. And but since then as far as president, George H W Bush gotten to know him he came to the agency for our sixtieth anniversary celebration, right? We had a Texas barbecue on the front lawn. Great deal of affection for him from them workforce. Who remembered his time and the agency? And so you you become one of the alum do, and it's you know, you, obviously didn't always agree. Sure. Change directions from time to time you weren't for different presidents and so on. But once you've been in that job, you feel a certain kinship with everyone else who has been in that job to sure yes. And as far as President Clinton, you have you gotten a gnome and other. I briefed secretary Clinton. Okay. Several times. Okay. She was very quick study. Very smart..