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"pkk" Discussed on KQED Radio
"In 10 minutes and then the PBS news hour starts at three coming of age in a pandemic leads to all kinds of questions about school and jobs and the future. The experiences of one high school senior ex Tommen marketplace Stay tuned for Marketplace this afternoon at four or catch the rebroadcast of the program this evening at 6 30, Iran, KQED, San Francisco and Qet QE II North Highland Sacramento. Mark a woman. It's the world in Turkey this week, officials have detained more than 700 Kurds. Some arrested include members of the pro Kurdish opposition People's Democratic Party, or HDP, a non position political party with more than 50 seats in the Turkish parliament. The arrests are a response to a weekend Turkish military raid on a cave complex in northern Iraq held by the peaky PKK. The PKK, the Kurdish militant group that spent the past 40 years fighting to create an independent Kurdistan. The raid was an attempt to save 13 Turkish hostages who had been held by the PKK for several years but failed to save them. Reported during this Karen in Istanbul explains what happened on February 13th. The Turkish military attempted to rescue about 13 hostages who had been kept by the PKK in this cave complex for about 5 to 6 years, the Turkish government had been in touch with these hostages, They knew that they were alive. You're in touch with their families as well And in this attempted rescue operation, the PKK executed the hostages. Their bodies were then found in the caves later by the military. It's gunshots to the head. So after this happened, it was It was really a big deal in Turkey because Turkey has been doing these cross border operations against the PKK in northern Iraq in northern Syria. It's kind of seen as a infringement on the autonomy of those countries. But Turkey argues that has to do this because of the threat that the PKK poses to Turkish security. So more than 700 Kurds arrested across Turkey What are they being accused of? Jerry? Great. So what the HDP tells me is that this is generally what happens after a crisis activist civil society opposition politicians, they'll be rounded up, they'll be questioned. Most will be released. Not everyone is going to be arrested and booked. So eight DP That's the People's Democratic Party. The sit in, they said in the Turkish Parliament. The 700 people, though, are they all members of the HDP? No, it's ah believe about 100 of them are members of the HDP. It's really one of those things that happens actually somewhat frequently. But what we do know is that in speeches, Erdogan has been doubling down on this rhetoric, accusing the HDP of ties to the PKK. And what this glosses over is that the HDP is the third most popular political party in the entire country. I mean, it regularly get about 10% of the vote in parliamentary elections, and while the PKK uses violence to try and jostle Kurdish autonomy. The HDP publicly endorse is a peaceful diplomatic resolution to the conflict. They won't condemn the PKK directly, but they condemn the methods. They do want Kurdish people in southeastern Turkey to have more freedom to express their identity, and that's kind of where they get into a difficult situation. Yes. So explain that because President Erdogan has now lashed out at the U. S, accusing it of supporting Kurdish militants. What's behind that This was interesting. The first statement on the cooperation released by the State Department said that if the PKK is responsible for this attack, then the U. S will condemn it. It was kind of this conditional response and Turkish officials were furious. They've summoned the ambassador and later that day, the secretary of state and earthy Blinken called the Turkish foreign minister and reiterated that yes, the U. S. Believes that the PKK terrorists bear was Sponsor ability here on the reason that this is so sensitive. It's this was like the first test for the Biden administration to see where it stands on the PKK. Turkey wants a hardline approach because the U. S. Is backing Kurdish militias in Iraq and Syria to rat out ISIS members They have, since the Obama administration and the U. S. And Turkey offer completely different narratives on whether these Kurdish militias that U. S backs have strong ties to the PKK. Turkey says the U. S is arming terrorists on their doorstep. Even though the two countries our NATO allies, and the U. S still sees these Kurdish militias as a longtime partner in an alley, they don't want to drop. I mean, these are the groups that liberated the Yazidis and Sandra are some really intense battles. So had those Turkish hostages who were killed over the weekend had they originally been abducted in northern Iraq or in Turkey and then taken to Iraq. They were kidnapped from Turkey. They were largely junior police officers and military numbers. Reporter during this Karen speaking with us from Istanbul. Thank you very much dirty. Thank you..
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"Thanks PKK Way news Time is 8 16 our top stories on Colorado's morning news. State health officials say they think the cove in 19 case numbers have hit a stable but high point. Tri County health director, Dr John Douglas. I think in aggregate what I would say is that I really believe that What we've seen is a is a combination of a sequence of policy changes. Honestly, they've been shotguns. They have lots of pellets. We can't tell which pellet is actually making the most difference. Colorado just reported nearly 3900 new covert 19 cases. 1545 patients are now in the hospital. Paso County Public Health officials want people to treat Christmas similar to Thanksgiving. By avoiding large gatherings. They say cases appear to have leveled off in El Paso County, but people can't get complacent, actually. Something that we should look at is being good news that we plateau that we're not rising. But again, if there's that grain of salt that we have to really stay the course. Dr Robin Johnson says People have to be creative regarding Christmas and New Year's not holding traditional events. On Monday, the Electoral College said to me to electro Biden to be the nation's 46 president, All states have to certify their results by Tuesday. The final tally shows A Biden defeated President Trump by more than seven million votes for a 306 to 232 Electoral College win. Biden received more than 81 million votes, while Trump had slightly more than 74 million. That's NBC News Radio's Mark Mayfield and efforts done Do the results of last month's election continue from the president 100 House Republicans have signed on to a long shot Texas lawsuit supported by the president. Endit overturning the results in four swing states. Joe Biden won. Yeah, There's House Republicans signing a legal brief in support of that to overturn the election results in four battleground states, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan and Georgia. Yeah, we had to from here in Colorado, right, well, coming up checking with ABC political director Rick Klein will do that. On the latest Trump lawsuit at 8 24 1st traffic.
Going old Turkey: a regional power spreads
"A decade ago, Turkey's Foreign Minister Audit of Attalou used to boast his country was on good terms with everyone police fantasia want. less confrontation, less tense attitude. Especially, in the region, he spoke at the Council on foreign, relations with the will of the principal. In. Two thousand three. Zero problems with our neighbors. And the made a huge progress. All, that now seems a distant memory Turkey is growing its international influence and not always with a light touch. The country has been backing Libya's government in its civil war. Last month. The Turkish Defence Minister landed in Libya to inspect his troops and opposition warlord warned them to get out or else. Turkey prompted an angry statement from Egypt last week by allegedly planning gas exploration and Egyptian waters. And yesterday Turkish officials railed against an American company for its dealings with ethnic Kurds in neighboring Syria. That Turkey believes to be terrorists. To some, all this adventurism is reminiscent of past chapter of the country's history when the Ottoman Empire ruled all of Syria and far beyond. Turkey, has been playing an especially prominent role in Syria since protests spread into a full blown civil war. Turkey has really become a meshed in Syria since the start of the our spring, the uprisings that took place in two thousand eleven across the Middle East it back. The Islamist. Movements that initially took to the streets and then took up arms. Nicholas Pelham is our Middle East correspondent. But as those fighters were false back towards its border, it's really stepped into try and protect its southern border, stop any more refugees coming into the country and to provide some sort of safe zone for the proteges, and it's also very nervous about the current state law that emotion the northeast of the country. It feels very threatened by the emergence of Kurdish power on the southern borders, and is it reasonable for Turkey to think that those Kurdish forces are really a threat historic? The have been links between the PK, the cuts down Workers Party, which has been waging a thirty five year a war for. Autonomy and separatism inside Turkey. Many of those fighters did flee sought refuge in Iraq and in Syria, and so Turkey is worried about what it sees very much kind of PKK influenced state emerging on its southern borders. So this year it's been launching pretty heavy attacks inside Iraq, it's been sending tanks across the border. It's established positions inside northern Iraq. It's been carrying out drone bombardments, such two hundred kilometers from its border in Saint, John More, Kurds all the way along its southern border inside Syria inside. Iraq see a new Turkish assault, which is pushing deep into their territory and not just unsettling. Kurdish aspirations for sovereignty in Iraq and Syria, and this is also unnerving Arab leaders as well. Who Turkey pushing deep into territory, which was part of the Turkish Republic predecessor. The Ottoman Empire, which ruled the Middle East centuries until its dissolution about a century ago, which is to say that Turkey is expanding its influence is doing this adventurism beyond Iraq and Syria all over the Middle East of the moment. There's a this year has seen the new intervention of the Turkish, Army. Libya. They came to the rescue of the besieged government of National Accord. In Tripoli, which has been fighting a civil war against a renegade general. Khalifa. After Turkish forces established at base on the borders of Tunisia, we're seeing it's frigates make a bid for control of looking coastline and even ward off French frigates. We're really seeing a substantive increase in Turkish. Power across the Middle East and it's not just happening in Liberia. It's happening in Gaza, which is an ally of Turkey. Turkish forces there have tried to help. Cut Break Its blockade by Saudi Arabia they're. A. Few hundred to a few thousand Turkish forces that are they're wasting more Turkish interested in Yemen civil war. We're seeing interest in a Sudanese port and actually Turkey's largest overseas basis in the point of Africa. So really this is a massive increase in Turkey spread across the middle, East and do you believe that the the the Ottoman history plays into that as a return to former glories? In some way? It's very much the in the rhetoric certainly saw Mr. Osman tropes at the at the height of the Arab spring wanted to appear to be the leader of the Muslim world. He was promoting his version of governance across the region hoping to clone the Turkish model across the Middle East. But since the collapse of Islamist movement since its as from power in Egypt and the retreat of many of its forces, he's really kind of played much more on Turkey's national interests. He's ally domestically with what had been his nationals opposition. He seems to be much more concerned on trying to maximize Turkey's economic claims in the. The Mediterranean this since much more about promoting Turkey's national interests than flying it systems colors. This is really an exercise in in hard power and trying to exploit the weakness of others, the retreat of Europe and America from the Middle East. The policies of many Arab governments, and try and push Turkey to fill what seems to be a vacuum of power across the Middle East, and so is that push to serve Turkey's national interests working is, is it benefiting from this from this expansionism? If you're trying to put together a balance sheet of profit balance sheet? Sheet Turkey has benefited from Khatri investment cutters, loans, and investments have helped prop up the Turkish lira. It may be that country's also hoping to fund part of its military costs in Libya Turkeys, keen to promote its companies when it comes to eventual reconstruction of war-torn Libya, which after all is energy rich state, and so long term, there may be benefits, his critics home highlight, the cost it's estimated that Turkish operations in Syria have cost anything up to about thirty billion dollars, and of course, there is a threat that you're going to see a major escalation. Escalation in the Middle East, which could embroil Turkey. It's not just Turkey is entering the middle, East enforce. It's also Russia. Many Arab states are trying to gain Russian support to push back Turkey, not just Syria Egypt the United Arab Emirates looking to Russian support in Libya, and Egypt is sending its tanks to the Libyan borders. The UN warned that the risk of a of a regional war focused on Libya and beyond that that risk was huge. So this is a massive gamble and it looks as if the stakes are going to be increasingly hyphen
States should give businesses the flexibility to reopen amid coronavirus pandemic
"How do we how what moves can be taken as we start lifting these lockdown restrictions what moves can be taken by the government to respect to that free market to make sure that we are not creating a new precedent for federal dependency or state dependency it but what can be done to spur economic activity and and maybe give us a quick lightning start to the recovery as things open well I think there are probably three different areas that you have to be really look at number one you have to make sure that the regulatory tax environment is conducive so to this everybody wants to make a profit and so so if you have to defer taxation if you have to do for regulation and what we're saying is because we have different number of regulations they probably are necessary at all anyway but you take care of that provide the environment they want the second thing you do is this I think you've actually probably had what I would use this personal domain or what I would provide wheelchairs and deluged with taking the federal government not so much but the state government chat and the state governments have also got to go by the way for folks to to be able to financially get their doors back open and and provide that relief which they live the third one which which is basically to push tied together you got a lot of open up businesses have to be able to open up and you have to provide some penalized bility protection for portable pulling up so that I mean already we've had there's a lot of trial lawyers coming in here trying to sneak around see if there's a way to shoot somebody or hatching a corona virus first of the of the business of the weather's a big box store grocery store or whatever so you've got to provide some kind of liability protection British businesses through a little bit nervous to open up and come back because they know that that that this is the next shoe to drop so there's a there's a three quick things I think we should be focusing on right now yeah you make a great point with CL liability protections we've been talking about that here and there on the program because that is it and I did it just makes me mad your trial lawyer still that are going out there sh sixteen if they can find any kind of weakness to exploit but I how does workers comp come into that because wouldn't they wouldn't businesses be protected through workers compensation from something like that or is that rule but kind of out of the window because it's a panda I can you have your state orders and executive orders involved well a workers comp because a little bit harder because of workers comp is typically going to be definitely work related and I'm not sure that passing section around this has been ruled to be within that within that little shoebox and so that may be a little bit harder that's why you saw introduced legislation because actually dealing with liability issues trying to be more clear on the reasonable person standard and simply opening your business does not thank you negligent that sector than trying to find work there but I don't know about workers comp but it's usually that that's used for research there were shoe box that I'm not sure you can yeah how how much longer do you think I mean I know that we're going into the different that some states are going my state to Texas is going into phase one coming up on Friday some areas actually even opened a little bit earlier we were talking about the town of Colleyville here in Texas you have Georgia that's following its reopening following those phase one guidelines as well if you had it because I I hear from so many people we can't take this much longer in there these are business owners who are saying okay we plan for a rainy day this is a global pandemic is a lot different it's like a million rainy days at once no one can really anticipate something like that or or really plan for it which is why we have the government reacting in the at this unprecedented way but you know honestly how how much longer because they're at the DNC was saying that now we're opening too quickly how much longer can people take this and what what do you say to the DNC says none of this is way too fast well I think societally we've already been close to long branching data showing that that the number of that you created a another public health crisis on the side by side basically preventing elective surgeries a lot of people told us that the plastic surgery no elective surgeries with any scheduled surgeries yep and now they are virgins you sugar so you have created quite frankly the public health crisis on on on the side and that goes with your economic crisis I I talk to people everyday Danish data then the business is the small business owners and they tell me yeah we're we're either with PKK were were were about to hold up and you can't you can't provide enough almost because it isn't so bad that's what we have over thirty trillion question thirty million people unemployed and sweet and there so that's that's that that about thirteen to fifteen percent it is the actual inspired because he beat the influx has been so rapid and show of force on the states that that they don't have the the band with the either classed as all the new plans for a quote I would say what we need to be opening up right now and we need to be basically just say let's just advocate for or for the guidelines because that's really where three people were still we would say if you don't want to open up your business okay don't you have that right we would say if you feel unsafe the state state and I would say I would respect that I mean that's that's your choice but feel that way and to believe that and then certainly stand if you don't want to be responsible when
How the Syria deal between Turkey and Russia will work
"And welcome to today's edition of the briefing with me Andrew Muller it is difficult to conjure a grammar prospect than having in your future decided on an agreement between Turkish President Richard Type One and Russian President Vladimir Putin such however is exactly the outlook facing the key words in the area of northern Syria they had come to Coleridge Uva and who until very recently considered themselves rock-solid allies off and perhaps therefore protected by the United States Turkey and Russia have agreed to what they call oversee what they call a withdrawal of Kurdish forces the Kurds IC- matters differently I'm joined by Paul Rogers a professor of peace studies at Bradford University who has written extensively on the war in Syria and Hannah Lucinda Smith Istanbul respondent for the Times how in Istanbul first of all what do we know about how Russia and Turkey expect this deal to work because on the face of it it would seem to require an amount of cooperation from the Kurds good morning well yeah I think the first thing that we should say about the deal that was struck in Saudi last night this is hugely more details than either of the deals struck between Turkey and the US previously on the safe zone finds exactly where the safe zone is going to be how exactly it's going to be patrolled in court Rodney as you say most of those areas is going to be cleared of Kurdish fighters guide to be patrolled either by acids and Russian forces or also with Turkish forces as well joint patrols now of course this completely relies on on the Kurds agreeing to this agreeing to withdraw from his areas but quite frankly they don't really have much other choices they turned to ask that assu weeks ago when Turkey I launches assault there was a military memorandum of understanding signed between the two sides that point and to be honest they really hunger and yet the cause to play it's difficult see how they have any leeway to oppose this agreement just to follow that up is clear then at least on the in terms of this agreement where they intend or expect the Kurds to go now all we know is that they're going to be goes out of an area generally ten kilometers along the border apart from certain towns also from the towns of manage and tell Ra fats to the west of the area and everyone is going to be pulled back thirty clumps away from that border now obviously that's a small sex Shen in in kind of pure land mass terms of what the the Kurdish dominated forces controlled in Syria but it does also include almost all of their main towns this is the commish that factor capital falls outside of this arrangement it's unclear exactly in the long term how that's going to be trolled. The moment is a mixture of Kurdish regime fighters but all the other towns on the border that's where the huge bulk of the population in Syria Lebanon redan clear at that at this point where if they choose lead times they civilians are going to go Bring Paul Rogers in at this point Paul how do you expect this to play out because it would appear that militarily at least the the military wing of the Syrian democratic forces the white PG they don't really have any options Jackie and Russia both huge well-equipped military's the Kurds have very little heavy weaponry they certainly don't have an air force will they make any attempt at all do you imagine to defend what they have I think is unlikely that they will do any defense in the conventional sense in the slightly longer term may be the equivalent of of Salter Grid warfare but in the short term degree very much that they're in a very weak position I think the point that hunters was making very significant in terms of the out of control the techs are prepared to ensure if not control themselves with a mixture of Syrian and Russian forces so also saying that Turkey really like is to be able to control the area right across the border Syria from the the whole sort of length of the border winches many hundreds Columbus the area that they do control in the West because of their own associates is quite big what remains is something like four hundred twenty kilometers this particular agreement appears to cover about one hundred and twenty kilometers Ms Hammet says this is an area where the Kurds each populations particularly concentrated for the still nearly something like two thirds of the total area which isn't under this agreement we simply don't know what's going to happen there but in direct answer to your question I think it is unelected the that's what offer any major resistance to this at least in the short term but just to follow that up poll should we therefore assume that agreement that was struck between the code and the Syrian regime for all that was ever worth is now formerly a dead letter it seems to be yes I mean if you look at this in a wider sense trump's decision to Morris withdraw the troops and Syria although they've not been large they've been pretty significant we tend to forget an addition to these troops what nobody talks about in polite circles is the presence of question number special forces including it suspected special forces from Britain and France that have involved in trying to prevent escape of the Isis fighters they haven't been very successful in that at present because there are so many isis fighters in some of the detention camps but from the Russian perspective that this is really very good for them I mean their overall plan is to have as much influence a series they can for minimum cost on the way they played the air war was very rough very tough but not huge costly a while they now seeing is the will be actually be some Russian forces even quite small a nominal in these zones as part of the sort of protection patrols which means that they will be extending their influence geographically very little costing sells out of that expect it is pretty Kaputin and one would say that in that respect is also good for the United States how does it look like this is playing the one domestically is is it proving popular with Turks generally this idea that I and his pitches basically two fold that he has cleared what he described observe terrorist menace from away from Turkey's borders and he has now opened up spicing which Turkey can repatriate some of the millions of Syrians who have fled into the country since two thousand eleven sure I think it's very important burdwan he manages to to spin every get series of victory at home you know I think we shouldn't forget that a major part of his reason for launching this operation in the first place was to kind of Rowson domestic supporting tools to deflect attention away from so many other things that have been plaguing in this year the economy's going terribly he suffered major losses in local elections at this yes now taking the Turkish front pages this morning and you know should remind you the only sort of the Turkish media is controlled by one and his allies the reaction to the deal last night is a lot more kinds of restraints than was the reaction to the deal with Mike Pence last Thursday after that deal the headlines thank took his one and Turkish victory now the much more restrained they're saying the Terry corridor has been committed to history so there's a lot more restrained language I think it's almost certain that presentation on even though he's got nowhere near what he was setting out to get when he first started talking about launching this unilateral campaign a few weeks ago you know he was talking about taking a stretch of border four hundred forty kilometers long he's got far less than that but I mean certainly he's going to into a victory he's going to say the state of Rosia varies name more the Thai have got rid the terror threat from our border and this is another victory for me and my policies all the the Syrian conflict which is now approaching the end of its first decade has proved ceaselessly in depressingly inventive in finding ways to perpetuate itself but bearing that in mind do we at least see some outline of what a final settlement might look like because isn't this Turkey coming around ever for the to the idea that Bashar Al Assad has basically one that he will remain president of Syria I think that's true a and I would agree generally that this is being a good period for a set himself and his regime not least because the Kurds are having to accept that he can be a kind of counter to the increase Turkish influence the one big question remains though is what this does to the other kinds of militia groups are not much talk about the ones in North West Syria in Italy province but more the Isis elements and here there is a lot happening although against very difficult piece out precisely what the Americans of taken about a thousand of their troops from Syria into western Iraq but one report from the Pentagon this morning suggested this is a temporary there's thousand we'll be withdrawn entirely so it makes it to the American seem to be persisting in trump's wished rashly with morton withdrawal more fully than it is his phone one can say extremely good news in perhaps the the group that may benefit most is actually isis itself who far from going away I'll still there regenerating in Syria and in Iraq and the connection here is they still had many hundreds property several thousands of their toughest paramilitaries in detention one sort or another in the in the powder Syria those are really coming out back into circulation it's very similar to what happened in two thousand twelve thirteen with the so-called operation breaking the walls when what was the remnants of the old HQ I in Iraq managed to break out many that toughest paramilitaries from Iraqi prisons now it's not so much breaking out now because these went so well protected this time but it's the same kind of thing playing at a smaller scale and it's gone who almost certainly boost isis overall now that has an impact in Iraq or serious very difficult to tell but that's the one unknown in this current situation ought to come back to you finally a major part of President Prospectus that the the P. G. R. A. Anti-kurdish terrorist organization has been the alleged relationship with the Peak Aka the Turkey the Kurdish rather organization which has been waging war against Turkey for decades we'll doin be anticipating or nervous about any potential response to this deal from the PKK well I think the listening to say as you know the the the links between the what PG and the and the PK care real I mean when I first started reporting on the war PG in late two thousand thirteen you know well before they had even heard much indefinitely before before they go US backing I mean they were very very open about the fact Turkey ideologically that clearly linked to the to the PK K.. And you know I think everyone probably should be very worried about retaliation from the okay inside Turkey a ceasefire broke down in the summer of two thousand fifteen since then we've seen really wide scale conflicts across southeastern Turkey happening often in the city centers in many cities enters destroyed by fighting between Turkish security for some pick the
Turkey-Syria crisis: Five-day "ceasefire" runs out today
"The US brokered ceasefire in northern Syria ands today meanwhile Turkey's president Recep Tayyip Erdogan is meeting with Russian president Vladimir Putin to talk about the crisis one launched a military offensive in northern Syria about two weeks ago with the stated goal of clearing Kurdish fighters from the area Turkey also wants to resettle about two million Syrian refugees there who currently are living in Turkey with me now is Douglas Elliman he's president of the Arab Gulf states institute here in Washington DC from two thousand eight to two thousand eleven he served as the deputy cheaper as the deputy chief of mission at the US embassy in Turkey he's also a former US ambassador to Iraq and Kuwait good morning ambassador good morning well always one's actions on Syria fit into his broader agenda for Turkey what does he want for his country I think basically what everyone wants is to prevent the emergence in eastern Syria of any stronger unified Kurdish governing structure and as long as American troops were there with the Syrian democratic forces especially up along the border it was very difficult for him to go against the militarily because a NATO ally was working with the STF he has a secondary goal however of preventing physical and political connections between Syrian Kurds who live in the west of Syria near it live and north of Aleppo and the east of Syria the one for talking about here and maybe finally it's almost always good politics in Turkey two counter pose Turkish nationalism against Kurds and the very real PKK terrorist threat that has been going on for the past three decades in Turkey so this also gives him a domestic political bump against his enemies by showing that he is strong against a potential Kurdish terrorist enemy and help out this meeting between her to one and and put in today what's the relationship like at this point between Turkey and Russia well everyone has been working for most of the past decade on expanding Turkey's relations in addition to those of its traditional allies the United States NATO in Europe everyone sees himself as an emerging real regional and world leader but when I was in Turkey in two thousand ten airline signed with Putin and worked with the Russian company to build Turkey's first nuclear power plant which is still not finished but there has also been have been attempts to expand the places from which Turkey by defense equipment the S. four hundred air defense missiles from from Russia he wants to see itself is no longer completely tied to the west and wants to look to the east and to the south as well for allies and expansion of its economic political and military influence and does the United States need to be worried about that to the extent that the United States depends upon Turkey as being only a traditional NATO ally it is an issue for the United States expanding to the east sure to China to the south into the Arab world doesn't necessarily mean that Turkey cannot be perform the goals that it has of the things that is done within the NATO alliance but it will mean that Turkey will be calibrating its domestic interest in its foreign policy interests and security interests differently than it has in the past so the United States needs to make sure that we know what we want from Turkey and Turkey in the NATO alliance and economically and then try to use our influence to bring airline to that conclusion as well how could Russia's involvement here affect US foreign policy in the region his foreign policy is becoming more aggressive in the Middle East especially now in Syria with the departure of US forces are Russia has already a large role in keeping the I should I said regime in power in Damascus they have been actively working with the Syrian regime with the Iranians and Ronnie and proxies in eastern Syria and what I expected as American forces withdraw as the Turks go in you'll see an expansion of Russian influence Russian participation with the Syrian regime into this territory that the crews had hoped to control in eastern Syria for me former deputy chief of mission at the US embassy in Turkey Douglas Elliman thanks so much for
Defense secretary says troops in Syria will 'temporarily' go to Iraq before returning to US
"Listen first to a little bit from Secretary of Defense Mark Asper talking about the president's decision to withdraw troops from Syria and it has the president's move had moved have been framed by the administration as a decision to get home and out of quote endless wars But secretary experts said that troops from Syria are being relocated to western Iraq the current game plan is for those forces to reposition in western Iraq and then to to missions one is to help defend Iraq and to is to perform a counter isis mission as we sort through the steps that's the secretary of Defense Mark Esperer well joining us now from Washington is Laura Seligman Pentagon correspondent for Foreign Policy Laura Welcome to the show hi thanks for having me so first of all tell us what more we know about these US troops that have been reported as a crossing the border from Syria into Iraq. What's actually going on so what's going on right now is that the US is pretty much making hasty withdrawal from Syria had about one thousand troops in northern Syria left a couple of weeks ago and after the president's decision to move troops from the border which essentially green lighted the Turkish invasion we've sped up or withdrawal so we have I believe there's the US troops are consolidating on in two two points in northern Syria one in the east and one in the West in the east they are now moving out by land by convoy and perhaps possibly helicopter to western Iraq and then over in the West Orleans area near Kabbani they're moving out by airlift so this is serve the end of almost the end of US presence in northern Syria although there was news last night that broke that the president is considering a plan which I believe with presented by Lindsey Graham Senator Lindsey Graham to leave a couple hundred maybe two hundred three hundred perhaps in northern Syria primarily to guard at the oilfields which are currently under Kurdish control from getting into president Syrian President Bashar Assad hands and then they would also have a counter isis mission though it's not clear to me what do you hundred troops can do against both Isis and Assad army okay well so let's see then you mentioned Senator Lindsey Graham let's listen to what he said yesterday on Fox News because of course for the past couple of weeks Senator Graham has it's been very vocally critical of president trump's decision to withdraw troops from Syria but here's what he said yesterday on Fox News as I am increasingly optimistic that we can have some historic solutions in Syria that have alluded us for years if we play our cards right so Laura I mean do we know what more grim is talking about why his sudden change of heart and that we can all of a sudden player cards right I think he's probably trying to ACA fine line between what the president wants which is obviously to get US troops home get them out of Syria I get them out of the Middle East and then securing US trust in Syria so we're actually leaving even before this latest plan we were we had been leaving a couple hundred maybe a hundred fifty troops in southern Syria at a small outpost cold Altaf which sort of acting as a buffer for Iran's presence interior it's a it's a very small garrison that's on the border with Jordan where we have the very small base of troops so that was always sort of in the cards and now we have a president trump making another kind of reversal designed to leave a couple of hundred troops in northern Syria. I think that what Lindsey Graham is trying to do is trying to on the one hand we the president and allow him to fulfill his campaign promises while on the other hand keeping residual force in Syria which is really critical to having a stable northern Syria. I mean the Kurds that are there are already civilians are dying for two hundred thousand I believe civilians have been displaced and if this security zone agreement with a Turkey holds it could be more and more people are displaced that area and you have so many interests players there you have Turkey coming in but you also have the Syrian army you also have the the therion rebels the free Syrian army and other Turkish back forces that have been wreaking havoc so it's a chaotic region right now and the presence of U. S. forces are going to be critical to state well I think it well so you mentioned that this cease fire that was brokered by the US last week I mean just let's listen to A moment to former ambassador William Burns who served as ambassador to Russia and as the US Deputy Secretary of state under the Obama Administration he was on CBS face the nation yesterday an he was critical of the trump administration's moves in the past couple of weeks saying that the administration's policy could they long lasting in the region I mean I think there was a smart way and a dumb way to deal with what was a very complicated situation which we had modest leverage in northeast Syria we chose the dunaway and one impulsive presidential phone call we in a sense gave away our leverage and then in a pretty hasty negotiated ceasefire we through the curve under the bus it's former ambassador William Burns on CBS's face the nation yesterday Laura so things seem to be moving so quickly that I just wonder if he might just help walk through whether or not the ceasefire actually was a cease-fire so as of Friday when she star was agreed it sir it was not a ceasefire there were reports all Friday and over the weekend that the Turkish back forces continued shelling the border city of Russia I and and in fact circled the city and would not let medical convoys come in which we're trying to come in and evacuate wounded civilians and I've been in touch with the Kurdish Red Crescent which is one of the only I think medical convoys medical humanitarian groups that is still on the ground there it's just simply too dangerous for most international groups I've been in touch with them and they we're trying to get in all weekend and they told me that many people in fact died due to loss of blood and how am I getting the help that they needed I I'm told that just in yesterday I believe there was another group an American group that was able to get in and evacuate some of the civilians there but in general it's just a horrible nations I think in the last twenty four hours fighting has ceased a little bit although there are still reports of some fighting there is not as much shelling or bombing So I I I have hope right now that the ceasefire is is going to hold and that will allow some time for the Kurdish forces away PG militia to pull back doc which is there they have agreed to do under the ceasefire agreement but but I am still very concerned about all the civilians that have been caught up in this there were reports faces and Torsos these are children and it looks like the Turkish back proxies are are using white phosphorus and potentially other chemicals against the billion so these war crimes are being committed atrocities are happening and it's just an awful situation chemical weapons attacks you're saying on on civilians and children technically white phosphorus is not accountable weapon there's a lot of legalities in that term in fact it's it's not banned in military use but it is a war crime if you said against civilians so lots of technicalities there but if if you're a person who has been burned with white phosphorus I think that the technicalities don't really matter and so then I mean you talked about you talked about the the Syrian forces the Kurdish forces I mean where is there what group if any is ostensibly protecting the civilians as you said some four hundred thousand being or having already been displaced so so recently partnered with the United States to defeat Isis this group it it's very complicated lots of webs of interconnections in this region but but this abyss primarily led by the way PG militia which has links to the PKK which is a terrorist organisation in Turkey that has been waging insurgency in Turkey for the last couple decades so it's it's certainly fair for Turkey TC the PK as a terrorist threat and so that their view of the white PG AF but the the reality on the ground is that the SDS the Syrian why PG the Syrian militia has not weighed aged any attacks on Turkey from Syria in fact what they've been doing is protecting civilians protecting US forces frankly in Syria we've lost I think four. US soldiers in total in the last since two thousand fourteen in Syria compare that to Afghanistan where blue on green attacks are common and the the SDS has been really good ally in the region so it's complicated but the SPF as as they keep saying they are not terrorists and I think they would they would object to that to that appearance we see but I've seen from your reporting Laura that the president end of the Syrian Democratic Council made an emergency trip to Washington very recently to meet with US officials
Turkey's Erdogan won't meet with Pence and Pompeo
"On Tuesday the White House announced the vice president Mike hands and secretary of state Mike Pompeii are traveling to Turkey as part of a delegation to negotiate a ceasefire and settlement in northern Syria his pants discussing a phone call between president Donald Trump and Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan president trump communicated to him very clearly and that the United States of America wants Turkey to stop the invasion implement an immediate ceasefire and to begin to negotiate a with Kurdish forces in Syria to bring an end to the violence but air to one told reporters yesterday that he is rejecting calls for a ceasefire while remaining open to negotiations with US officials this rapidly changing situation began when president trump announced a withdrawal of American forces from northern Syria just last week it was a decision that was widely condemned by some of his strongest supporters since then Turkish forces and Russian forces have advanced into northern Syria and Kurdish forces are under siege joining me now for an update on what's happening our Washington post reporter Dan Lamont who covers the military an owner on to Bloomberg Turkey bureau chief thank you both for joining me thanks yes owner before we get into the specifics of what's happening let's pull back for a second and try to understand the geo politics at play among others Russia is widely seen as benefiting from the current events in the region how cell I think the last ten days or so boosted Russia's role the said as the main power broker in Syria in general and the north of the country more than it was ever the case that's mainly due to a few reasons led by American decision to throw the subways troops from the area with church match is operating in addition and which was kind of an unexpected decision by the Americans we saw that US that coalition forces already also withdrew from the key border town of mine beach in northern Syria it's not exactly on the Syrian Turkish border but this is not very far away from it and with that decision was so that the Syrian regime forces backed by the Russians to cover mine beach which was at the heart of the long standing role between Turkey and the US bottom line I think is the fact that in all these areas with Turkey remain party at this active in the area the last eight years now is finding that Russia is reading the parts that should deal with in order to seek a solution to its own problems rather than the US in the region now finds it probably a lot more practical just to deal with the Russians instead of read the warning about what the American forces that sis are up to in the areas where it has its eyes so who else has benefited from the situation would you say what along with Russia their main partners in the Syrian war which is the central government in Damascus I think I'd be great Spanish fisheries when we come to Turkey we see that it's a lot more complicated situation where one can talk about maybe some bottles battlefields advances and and and possibly even a victory eventually but it's hard to see how exactly Turkey's president could leverage that battlefield advance in order to emerge victorious leader at home for his domestic audience it's all very tricky and food at the moment I think the US government has shown its capability to read me hurt Turkey's economy and Turkey's government if it really wants to intense too and that could radically change that sort of the that the power balance with a power dynamic between Turkey and the U. S. at in the context of what's happening in Syria and and in terms of adult standing at home Dan to many observers the US is seen as having lost ground strategically why is that I mean objectively diss that a disintegration of American foreign policy out in Syria over the last five years on the Syrian democratic forces were the greatest part on on the ground are in the fight against the Islamic state I rapidly leaving northeastern Syria over the last couple days we have last our greatest partner in that fight on their own and forced to find help elsewhere watched very awkward images in the last couple days of things such as the Americans pulling out of man **** most recently on Tuesday we saw images of Russian forces moving into the basis of the basin managed in particular the Americans that just last a seemingly got their weapons and their vehicles out of but they left behind virtually everything else more less a move in ready base and said tell me Dan to what extent our notions of an Islamic state revival credible or is it premature I think it's a very credible concern there are numerous reports of ISIS fighters getting loose in the chaos most mostly over the weekend but it's a continuing concern as Turkey continues to how to push its boundaries there and with that you have both the Russians and the Syrian regime involved and just a very chaotic situation in general never mind his own right up until the announcement about the US troop withdrawal how was this region of Syria being governed who exactly was in charge of this region has been under the influence and and control of STF for quite sometime now S. yes that's what's your democratic force an important element insincere democratic forces is white P. G. which is eight armed Kurdish group and which is at the heart of the problem between Turkey and US because while the US has been set it's a transactional temporary at relationship with YPG knowing the luggage so to speak that comes with white peachy enters problems with it under has been adamant that it's unacceptable given a temporary transaction great ship to exist between Turkey at between the US and white peachy and that's because Turkey sees the YPG as merely the Syrian offshoot of the PKK that's a separate disorganization the truck has been fighting guest for decades in a bloody war and said organization that's because a today at terrorist group not only by Turkey but by the US and European Union as well this is the heart of the disagreement between Turkey and the US in northern Syria so present to one commented on the upcoming visit from the American delegation what exactly did you tell reporters present aired on today told reporters does reporter is that he's going to meet both plants and pump but more importantly what he said was this we are going to create this buffer zone to sectors of the security so no matter what but if you're really trying to look for a way out for a solution here's our proposal I'm calling on the Kurdish militants were actually said I'm committed terrorists to leave everything they have the ammunition the materials the guns behind and just leave what we call the safe zone northeast in Syria and then this new job creation automatically and naturally will come to an end so we think that this was at a loss way off showing a graceful way to end this chaos it's graceful in the sense that it would allow the Turkish president to go back to its domestic audiences say see I got what I wanted on the battlefield and politically and this is how I deliver my promises without really having to deal with an embarrassing me the tree or political circus show force with any of the players in Syria now whether or not that's something that the US can live with we don't know yet when pensive Pompeia are nonsense we're going to find out but we now know for sure that this is going to be the starting point for the church delegation and add on as they sit down with what vice president pence and a signature of state my computer so Dan in anticipation of that how exactly our national security advisers in the trump administration responding to these latest developments we've seen a situation where because the president chose to hold troops initially just away from the border and then over the weekend completely out of northeastern Syria where they don't have a huge gold at the table are they have a vote are they can pressure Turkey I they can press for sanctions that and they can price for allies to weigh in they don't have the usual influence that American foreign policy presence would have out so they're trying to keep the president on a on a path that's inserting some sort of pressure here but the the the the options they have are much more limited that they would have been dot two weeks ago now one senior administration officials said we're describe this is total chaos we seen really a you know back and forth in terms of policy as is being dictated by the trump administration a lot of backlash from some of his most ardent supporters to what extent are they responding to this backlash now I I think it's something that they're gonna have to eat and they're gonna have to explain for quite some time there was a pretty broad discussion over how the United States should get out of Syria there have been discussions for some time basically that the STF would at some point need to reach an agreement or deal of some kind with the Syrian government and the United States with access robin becomes the way in which this has happened over the last couple days you basically compressed what would have been months of discussions into it really just a you know a few days and as a result of that you've seen the chaos you seem to violence and you've seen the US military you know basically just quietly quietly exiting I stayed right while all of these other players are you are involved in great bloodshed what about current members of the US military how are they responding to all of this it hasn't been universal but I have heard a great deal of chagrin about this I have a great deal of disappointment about this many I see this as a betrayal of a great partner WestJet are no fewer than ten or eleven thousand lives in the battle against the Islamic state they were you know on the battlefield together they weren't firefights together and to kind of just rapidly leave them alone are on their own with the Turkish offensive coming is something that they never thought they would see how is this escalating conflict affected the civilian population in northern Syria from what we know so far one of the great concerns is that it's not just the Turkish military involved there's a number of basically in militants of sorts fighters that are aligned with Turkey but but there they don't play by the same rules all right so you've seen images of civilians being basically executed you've seen images of war crimes happening right in front
US to step aside for Turkish assault on Kurds in Syria
"On Sunday night the White House announced that US President Donald Trump had spoken to Turkish President Richard Type Erred One and agreed that you had forces operating in northern Syria would stand aside in the event of Turkey's long threatened invasion of the area we've been in Syria for many years serious to be a short-term hip just short term hit we were supposed to be in and out that was many many years ago northern Syria is probably not a helpful way of thinking about the region concerned though is geographically the north of Syria it is practically Kurdish the area of Syria along the border with lucky has been controlled for some while by Syrian Kurdish militia called the white p g the white PG have been a key ally of the US led coalition Fighting Islamic state Turkey however considers the Y. p. g. terrorists allies of the PK eighty largely Turkey based Kurdish group who have battled Turkey for decades Turkey also wants to repatriate the two million Syrian refugees is currently hosting to the territory the wipe e. g. hold trump now seems with little consultation with anybody but other wan to have wait to in one Syrian Kurdish official by NBC News said the Americans of traitors they have abandoned us to a Turkish massacre if the why PG and Kurds in general thought their heroin in helping to tackle Islamic state would be some guarantee of American support in future they were reckoning without two things one obviously is the impulsiveness of Donald Trump who has learned what little he understands of the Middle East from Fox News which is worse than not knowing anything at ooh the other is a long history almost an ingrained habit of abandonment off the Kurds by those who profess to admire and respect them and promise to see Turku they fought with us they follow us they died with us they died we lost tens of thousands of Kurds died fighting isis they died for us and with us and for themselves but they're great people trump claims that he has not betrayed the Kurds among a series of bowl hinged and mentored tweets on the subject he has exclaimed that Inouye have we abandoned the Kurds who are special people and wonderful fighters codes will have ample reason for thinking that this is about half right the molten history of selling the cuts out dates back to the nineteen not when the Kurds hoped the dismemberment of the Ottoman Empire would at last permit them a state of their own the nineteen twenty treaty of several promised one in fact however western powers decided they cared less about this than they did about keeping the new Turkish Republic on board and the fledgling Kurdistan was quiet were encouraged by the West when there was a government in Baghdad that the West found disagreeable and ignored when there was an Iraqi rule of the West felt it could deal with in the one thousand nine hundred eighty s the west shrugged as Saddam Hussein waged a campaign of genocide against the Kurds including the use of chemical weapons in the early nineteen nineties following Gulf War One the Kurds were enjoined by President George H W Bush to rise against Saddam when they did a little help was forthcoming and the West continued to arm Turkey as it's brutal war with the PKK continued and when the United States removed Saddam in two thousand three Iraq's Kurds who had eventually being protected to some extent by a US imposed no-fly zone were the section of Iraq who did as it was hoped all Iraq would do embraced the opportunity and built a more or less functional and Western Friendly Society and there is indeed an argument that the West has no better friends or more reliable allies in the entire Middle East than the stateless Kurds as regards wine trump has done this varies the eternal Tara Khel response why does trump do anything assorted conspiracy theories are in play pertaining to trump's property interests in Istanbul his eternal Royat please Russian President Vladimir Putin for some reason and so forth but there is a simpler and likely explanation trump is now firmly in reelection mode he probably understands that he's best chance of getting a second term is to go to the people buoyed by a healthy economy and unburdened by American military involvement in countries his base couldn't point to on a map. It's hard luck for the Kurds of course but then it usually his
Turkish troops advance into Syria as Trump washes his hands of the Kurds
"News coming out of northeastern Syria Wednesday morning is devastating David Ignatius the Washington Post tweeted Tuesday night quote a bad situation in northeast Syria is about to get much worse sources tell me that US officials have just informed the Syrian Kurds that Turkey is likely to attack on air and ground in the next twenty four hours the US will do nothing targets are tell byard and Ross outline ironically tell abroad was the main supply route for Isis in two thousand fourteen in two thousand fifteen through an open border from Turkey Turkey refused repeated requests from the US to shut the border that's a big reason why US decided to partner with SDF which took the town in the summer of two thousand fifteen I'm also told the Turkish attack appears coordinated with the Russians russian-backed forces are mobilizing to invade the Kurdish area from the south towards top Gra and other spots. Meanwhile Isis is mobilising sleeper cells in Raka and attacks have taken place tonight and finally writes David Ignatius there's the scary issue of the thousands of Isis detainees families who may be breaking out of camps and prisons After Turkish attack with no American backup plan this is a major disaster coming at us because of trump's decision hours left to stop it sadly the hours left have dwindled to no time left to stop it as just moments after nine am eastern time Wednesday Urkish President Burdon tweeted quote the Turkish Armed Forces together with the Syrian National Army just launched Operation Peace Spring against PKK slash y. p. g. and dash terrorists in northern Syria just know that PK KYI PG he's talking about the Kurds and dash terrorists I guess is in reference to Isis although Turkey considers the Kurds quote interests they're our allies he continued our mission is to prevent the creation of terror corridor across our southern border and to bring peace to the area sure make no mistake he's talking genocide how did we get here well to recap. According to Turkey's communications director during the call with Turkish president aired or one on Sunday Donald trump quote agreed to transfer the leadership of the counter Islamic State Campaign to Turkey in response on Wednesday morning Syrian Kurdish forces allies of the United States issued a general mobilization call along the order with Turkey as Ankara threatened an imminent invasion of the area after I allegedly giving approval on the phone call trump was destroyed paid by Democrats and Republicans alike on Monday then he attempted to backpedal a bit threatening to quote totally destroy and obliterate Turkey's economy me if their push into Syria went too far turkeys been lining up troops for days along its border with Syria and vowed it would go ahead with the military operation and doc bow to the US threat over its plans against the Kurds
Republicans call U.S. withdrawal from Syria "betrayal" of allies
"Is trump is pulling troops out of scenery along the Turkish borders in a live Turkey deal with ISIS critics are saying we're abandoning allies in this region the the Syrian Kurds could you maybe just briefly explain the backstory here between Turkey and Syria and the Kurdish allies and isis and and how the United States is involved in all this we I'll try to keep it brief there is a very complicated situation down there efficiently northern Syria is a territory that is largely Kurdish it's part of what occurred consider Kurdistan which is not a country as recognized by anybody else but on the Syrian Kurdish people's protection units or they're they're a militia that is extremely anti ISIS are extremely anti Turkey and they are their own ethnic group they are their own militia and they are allied with there also communists so that I had the and sort of bizarre twist to this but they consider themselves pro America marches because they consider Marxism the opposite of jihad jihadist ideology radical Islam all that stuff and the word of ground troops that liberated locked out which was the capital of the ISIS caliphate they were the ones that went in there we gave them air backing fighter jets backing and it may have been the most useful allies we've had in the region they don't really have much of a dispute with for Charlotte's odd because they simply operate in a different region of Syria than where a lot of the active hostilities in terms of Assad verses the rebels which are often soon the Arab Muslims and they they certainly have a dispute in that they believe that they are a sovereign state within Syria a sovereign Kurdistan but they haven't really brought that up yet to Assad they're still trying to fight Turkey do you do with Turkey is that part of Kurdistan is inside the Turkish border and we're in Turkish Kurdistan there's a group called the Kurdistan workers party which is a Marxist group deemed a terrorist organisation by the United States and they often engage and they they have for years engaging kind of bombings in small level the kind of seventies style terrorism we saw in Europe that's what they've done and they no longer do much of that but Turkey considers the PKK to be indistinguishable from our allies against ISIS the third you want to go in it and eliminate the Syrian Kurds that helped us eliminate ISIS because they think that they are the same as the marches terrorists within Turkey and so that's where the big issue is because Turkey is also a NATO country which means that we are bound by treaty to defend them from anything and they consider that our allies are a threat to their sovereignty the mass wow wow service is more tells our gas from Breitbart Frances chasing the hammer here now one of the things I find interesting is we're hearing a lot of reports that the Pentagon officials were completely blindsided by this they were shocked they had no idea this was coming down is that what you're hearing is well one take me through what's going on in the Pentagon right now well yes and I think something big that happened here last time on the show with you guys actually was when John Bolton stepped down in Bolton is a huge supporter of the Kurds huge supporter of an independent Kurdistan and he leaves and suddenly we have the decree that we're gonna where we're gonna let the Turks do what they think is necessary and get rid of the the card is present on their border that was a bit of a shock to the Pentagon because the the Turkish plan the one plan and everyone is an Islamist he's a Muslim Brotherhood guy he is not our friend even though we are treaty bound to defend the country everyone wants to cross the border eliminate the Kurds and then re populate that area which Arabs Syrian refugees because Turkey's economy is completely boggle down by the millions I believe it's four million Syrian refugees are in Turkey now and they're living in refugee camps essentially within Turkey he wants to get rid of those people by getting rid of the courage and then replacing that Kurdish area with Arabs who are friendly to Turkey and the Pentagon is obviously not in favor of this planet doesn't benefit anybody except for everyone on and in some cases outside of the all kinda linkedin groups that can recruit from the Sunni Arab population any benefits to some extent Russia which is an ally of Assad because Assad doesn't want to deal with it is right now we've got a whole other civil war to deal with so there's a lot of resistance in the Pentagon to doing anything that benefits everyone and rightfully so at the same time I mean there's a lot of frustration from the White House and from people like rand Paul who are kind of anti anti war folks that Americans are dying because of this mess you know the average American could barely tell you workers hand is why should our children we don't want to die for this but I think the average American does know the term or the word the group ISIS met his is ice is still a big problem in that region I mean the caliphate's been destroyed I I think that's really was a big reason why there was a United States presence there yeah and I was never a problem in the region that we're talking about because that was the Kurdish territory so they weren't even allowed in those militias are hard core they did what they could do is keep them out where I was in Iraq on that with an Arab territory and the Kurd went in because we said we would back the curtains and and a lot of people are kind of uncomfortable with that because having a Kurdish army invaded our territory that to be problematic but I got rid of isis so at this point there are you know there are a few pockets devices religions and what there is is a huge population of ISIS jihadists in Kurdish jails that there's a lot of concern now that if we you know if we don't defend the Kurds they're going to be attacked and then those prisoners are going to break free and we're gonna have another I Turkey's going across the border to get the rest of ISIS button and they don't like the Kurds either in Turkey wants to take them out as well is that right is that really care about ISIS either way I mean everyone likes to say that you know treat all terrorists like terrorists street the card the same as license and kill them all but you reality border was officially open from twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen for any ISIS jihadists who wanted to come from here or Germany or wherever I want to go into Syria and join ISIS thirty did nothing to stop that to the idea that turned you want to go in there to eliminate isis is just it's nonsense as more tell world editor at Breitbart joining us here on the hammer and Nigel show I'm looking at a couple tweets here Francis the president had a tweet storm earlier and one of the things he mentioned was it's time for us to get out of these ridiculous endless wars many of them tribal and bring our soldiers home meanwhile senator Lindsey Graham who's had kind of a back and forth relationship with president trump over the years he tweeted out there press reports are accurate this is a disaster in the making what is this going to mean for Donald Trump inside of his inner circle on Washington well I think the people that have been there from the beginning with trump and know that he's wanted to do this for awhile and and will back him Congress is going to go nuts and they already are going nuts with Graham tweeting cemented because it it's a it's beneficial for you know it'll get you on TV shows to go not that trump over not understanding foreign policy and two they want to create this idea that determined abandoning our allies and making allies with dictatorships they've done this with China they claim that from the middle out enough on the Hong Kong protests even though our country's doing everything we can you know do in terms of legislation to defend the Hong Kong protests they've done this with Saudi Arabia and so now they're going to do this with everyone where they're gonna come out and try to tarnish the president on this the thing that is most interesting to me is that if you actually look at what the statement says we're withdrawing from a real job which is the the Kurdish area we're just moving out of there to a different part yeah I didn't see anything about these troops coming home in a report that the ship coming home and more recently the president tweeted that is he is displeased by anything Turkey does he just gonna go back in there and and destroy them and that's very easy as the troops are just moving you know a couple of pounds over which was kind of my impression of what's happening grams was obviously very different he thinks we're just giving up our presence there entirely we also president trump claimed to give up the American presence in Syria entirely at the end of last year and I was a huge fire storm as well so if we withdrew completely live here from Syria I'm not even sure who were withdrawing
U.S. pulling troops in Syria, leaving Kurdish allies to face Turkey
"Surprise for many of us over the weekend to see this but the White House announced that there will be a change in US policy with regard to Syria and it will essentially hand over control of a lot of ISIS fighters and a whole portion of northern Syria to Turkish security forces let me just give you the the latest here from from fox news ISIS fighters and other terrorist comprising the more than ten thousand Islamic militants jailed in northeastern Syria launch a major amassed prison break as U. S. troops withdraw from the region in response to Turkey's impending incursion Syrian Kurdish fighters warned earlier today the imminent cross border military operation heading Turkey against the Syrian Kurds a group Turkish president route rested Erawan views as terrorists and a bloody Kurdish insurgency playing is country is likely to further destabilize the area okay so hi this is this is very difficult as we know the Syrian Kurds were our primary ground force allies to fight against the Islamic state we gave them their cover special forces and and just general you know J. stock super super American ninja warrior stuff US support out in Syria but this year we encourage the ones are doing most of the fighting up close and personal against the Islamic state to take rock the capital of of of the Islamic caliphate and all along there's been this concern because the Turks who are increasingly showing us with the Turkish government is just making a lot of problems for the United States and is a it is becoming a weaker well I should say a lesser allies appealing weaker as a country necessarily becoming a lesser ally search hate the Kurds in in Syria because the cards in Syria have been a part of a long standing anti Turkish insurgency this group the the PKK other conger Gail they have been fighting against the the Turks for independence remember there are a lot of courage in southern Turkey as well they've been fighting for independence in that area stretching back for decades and the Turks have taken in and taken high levels of casualties over over decades not a lot at once but over over time they taken some real losses that's Erawan president Turkey calls them terrorists and he says there's no difference between the people that we work with the fight against the Islamic state and those who have been fighting against the Turks for independence as a separatist movement in southern Turkey in across the border in Syria for a long time who's right well I'm sure that there's some truth on the on on both sides and sure there are Kurds who are part of the anti you know the the anti Turkish element and then I'm sure that they're occurred you really just were joining up here to fight against the Islamic state Islamic state but where were really handing over the rains here were or handing over control to a Turkish government that could end up going after and killing allies of ours that we have had special forces along side that we have been we have been assisting and and and working very closely with with the US military presence in Syria to destroy the Islamic state and we did destroy the Islamic state I just think this that's a really bad precedent I think the administration I am somebody who says that we should not have a large military presence in Syria I stand be I stand behind that I I don't think that's a good idea but I also think that we need to be willing to really go to the mat to protect allies in people who have shown a willingness to fight alongside our troops effectively bravely and help us achieve an important national security objective for the United States the Kurdish let Jerry democratic forces said a statement Monday that quote the American forces did not abide by their commitments and withdrew their forces along the border with Turkey saying this would have a huge negative effect on the campaign to wipe out the Islamic state that this is this is bad this is bad we we these we these Kurds more than this then we owe the Kurds at least are guaranteed that that the Turks are not going to start bombing raids against them with planes and and and which is probably what's going to happen and there's gonna say well they're all terrorists we're we're just going after terrorists like America does without Qaeda and and then there's really not much more that said about it they just claim it that's what's going on in it's on us trying to push back against the diplomatically it is just this is disappointing of the Kurds have been so effective and so valiant and fighting alongside a guys night I spent time with Kurds in Iraq I know the Kurdish people in Iraq I understand their their struggles and I understand there are well that they have always kept their debt of honor to us as an ally fighting against the worst elements all kind in Iraq another insurgencies and then to take the fight to the Islamic state now we did course come to the Kurds aid when there was the very real possibility of the Islamic state was going to have a run on a city of of your bill your bill but now we've made a commitment to them when we are back now that commitment over doing it so we can hand them over to the Turks and I would it mean if I were sectors napalm pale I can tell you this I'd be having a sit down with with my Turkish counterpart say I promise you that there's we're gonna make it very uncomfortable for you if you start detaining or and or killing our his brothers and sisters were fighting over the Kurdish is one of the few armies in the Middle East where they actually the courage the Israelis the Iranians from what I understand who put women in forward combat roles there might be some others that do it but all three of those forces do it therefore there were women who were allowed to fight alongside the peshmerga if we if we don't stand up for our allies in this got in this case the next time around if we're going to get involved in a counterinsurgency like this anybody would see our promises as suspect in America as a country has it has honor America has a country as a country has a an ability to either keep or not its word and that's why I view this as as very that's very troubling I think that we are coming up short of our of our and ideals here I think the administration maybe they'll do some things behind the scenes I'm aware of there is the possibility that they're they have real they have real promises from the Turkish government that might prevent what I'm worried from happened by my prevent what I'm worried about happening from happening but right now it looks like we asked the courage to fight and die in the along side is to destroy the Islamic state eight a vicious wrist entity that was responsible for killing tens of thousands of people it was responsible for coming after or or toward not just trying to plot against the homeland but encouraging and inspiring home grown terror attacks against our people in America and now we're talking the Kurds sorry but we've got other plans I think we are as a country I think we're better than this I think we owe our allies more than this and I am very very annoyed about this I I might actually just try to get some more answers higher up the food chain of the of the government and find out what the thinking is here I mean I I'd like to reach out to some people I know it's state maybe some people the White House because we should get an answer about this I know it may seem like block it's not really our it's not really our fight anymore and knew what we really get a we're we're gonna bomb Turkey to stop them from doing this of course not okay but why do we think that we're gonna be able to have allies in the future in any war we're gonna be shoulder shoulder with us against the enemy and not wonder if at some point we're going to decide yeah well you're on your own now we're not gonna keep our promise you were gonna sell you out I like I I would like to see I know that would require some vetting and we're always being told a hound in America is a nation of immigrants and all this stuff I think that's not really true it's a talking point but none the less I would like to see a lot of a guy I would like to see more Kurds brought in and I'd like to see us I'd like to see more Afghan translators running I like to see the people that they take real risks for America and that have shown themselves to be on our side when it counts in and brave and and get it done those the people our bring the country not people that show up in lie about how they're fleeing you know I mean gang or something and pretend to be someone's relative when they're not in a not show up for their hearings but maybe
Dozens Arrested in Raids on Kurdish Party Headquarters in Turkey
"In Turkey more than fifty workers and officials of appro Kurdish party are under arrest a day before local elections Durba scar on has more in a statement Turkey's pro-kurdish party, the DP said president rage of tied to once party is trying to win the elections through unjust and unlawful means a day ahead of Sunday's local elections air to appeared at six rallies to campaign on behalf of his party's candidates, his rhetoric against the HDTV has escalated into equating the party with PKK militants in one speech. He calls the party terror lovers. According to the HDP more than seven hundred people have been detained since the beginning of the campaign, including local candidates during last year's parliamentary elections, the HDP received almost twelve percent of votes. Even though they're presidential candidate campaigned from
Zimbabwe's president welcomes court challenge
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"pkk" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Over the past several years relations between the us and turkey have deteriorated amid deep divisions over which forces to support in syria civil war and the fight against isis the us backs a kurdish force they're known as the why pg but turkey considers it a branch of the pk k militant turkish kurds that both on camera and washington consider terrorists right now the y pg controls the city of mandi another flashpoint turkish plans to buy both antiaircraft missiles from russia and the american f thirty five stealth fighter jet us officials are afraid the f thirty five secret technology will be shared with the russians these were some of the items on the agenda when turkish foreign minister myth lewis tom shillue met this morning with secretary of state mike pompeo right afterward judy woodruff sat down with the foreign minister and began by asking him about that sharp disagreement over america's backing of the syrian kurds was a big mistake the us prefer to work with a terrorist organization because us admits that way pg is the offshoot of pkk in syria turkey itself actually eliminated more than three thousand diet elements through operation euphrates shells you could have easily done this together with our allies we didn't need this terrorist organisation it has become also big trouble for united states and it also affected our bilateral relations very badly and also increased antiamerican sentiments in turkey and elsewhere when will the white pg begun from a in months.
"pkk" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Bbc news with stuart mcintosh the french president emmanuel macron is addressed both houses of the us congress delivering a thinly veiled criticism of many of donald trump's policies he warned them the global prosperity was being threatened by rising nationalism and urged the united states not to abandon international engagement he also said that protecting count industries was no excuse for failing to tackle climate change and pollution reflecting mr trump's main campaign slogan he said let's make our planet great again a court in turkey has convicted thirteen journalists and managers from the liberal newspaper jumhurriyet's on charges of helping outlawed terrorist organizations the offense is related to the newspaper's coverage of the kurdish pkk and far left groups demonstrators across germany against anti semitism of been joined by people of many faiths the protests were organized in reaction to an attack last week in berlin on two men wearing skullcaps the authorities in california say they've made an arrest in connection with more than fifty rapes and twelve murders in the nineteen seventies and eighties a seventy two year old former policeman joseph de ngelo is being held in sacramento british officials investigating reports that a man with dual british iranian nationality has been detained in iran according to the center of human rights in iran a group based in new york abbas etela'at academic from london is an antiwar activist who campaigns against foreign intervention in iran huge crowds of again taking to the streets of the armenian capital yerevan calling from the government to resign after junior coalition party deserted the administration and south african police have identified the body of a pretty botanist rodney saunders who went missing with his wife.
Turkey takes control of Afrin in Syria
"Under pressure to explain how data and fifty million users were exploited for political gain as fall as claims data from cambridge analytical used the leaked information to help donald trump when the us presidency bloomberg sarah frier explains unaggressive saying that it shouldn't case that a hundred thousand people getting beta giving it to a researcher she result in all that information on fifty million people being in the hands of that person in furthermore basic was not able to track the data as it went to the third party he was able to bear for give us a cambridge analytica in space of had no idea a has asked facebook ceo mark zuckerberg to testify on the matter and tacky has captured the town afrin on syria's northern border bloomberg's simon says as follows a two month campaign to expel the us backed forces the capture of afrin could propel adwan expand the offensive to push the syrian kurdish y pg militia from the border and quash aspirations of kurdish self rule ankara sees the why as an extension of pkk militants who have been battling for kurdish autonomy in turkey for decades in istanbul simmons can bloomberg daybreak europe global news twenty four hours a day powered by more than twenty seven hundred journalists and anisimov the one hundred twenty countries i'm sandra kilhof this is bloomberg marcus from sandra to the sports here's joe thompson chelsea boss antonio contest says he doesn't see drawing southampton is the easiest path to their three cup final after beating leicester two one in extratime is side voted manchester united and tottenham will meet in next month or the semi celtic now ten points clear the top of the scottish premiership with just eight games to play they could have extended their advantage further though drew nil nil at motherwell despite their opponents having cedric kick bryce sent off in the first half celtics john henry's been called up by scotland for the first time after his club teammate care and tierney withdrew because of injury for martin's also pulled out to the squad for friendlies against costa rica home four we're here to help bowl scotland out that's the like this i'm joe townsend joe tells into with european sports now let's turn back.
Turks have reason for concern about a terrorist State on their southern border
"The turks have reason to be concerned about this from their perspective the syrian kurdish fighting force at the united states has been working with is a terrorist organization and should that organization control large amounts of territory it will amount to a terrorist state on turkey southern border in the same way that many israelis look at the gaza strip is a terrorist statelet on their their southern border but i think the turks need to be careful they have been fighting the pkk this turkish kurdish separatist organization since the mid nineteen eighties washington's ally in syria this kurdish fighting force known as the people's protection units aren't affiliate of the pkk and there's no reason to believe that the turks will be anymore successful in fighting the white pg in syria and they have been against the pk case since the mid nineteen eighties so i think the turks are getting ahead of themselves so certainly had some success in african but it has been a harder slog than i think the turkish press is leading on we're heading to egypt one question about moscow malcolm how is the kremlin these days with ankara and with our dewan is it is it relaxed is it anxious does it does it watch every move how steve.
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"The group that is according to why peachy are a nakumatt communist rule which are linked why don't you need to build a group called the pkk which is listed as a terrorist organisation by the united states essentially once again they're promoting and giving guns to what they listed as terrorists not long ago i mean yes they did but isis but they also is that of the us than european antifarmer gone and fought with them absolutely not even a bigger cool because they're going to return home and use the weapons knowledge that they deigned in syria up through crossing there illegally on and in fact the study reported had one of them to the murdered here in fact when they didn't call the kurdish groups that the eu's on day two of the leader of the pkk terrorist organisation innocent your cultures you how they are to the organization but the thing that propaganda that they did you is the kurds now the country was stolen from them but the reality is that there was neverthless being is done because the kurdish people were pneumatic they kept hysteria in the 1920s as refugees from turkey and yet the base nato the historic rights don was actually armenia historical that's all historical fact and turkey's always kicking amount industry is still today yes we we accepted the minister jason we we let them in but now they twenty it all of the dogs are not two two billion kurds in syria if twenty two million syrians but the launch of their heart claim is thirty percent of styria i'd had much oil and much more the defeat quicktulane employers near she would congressmen and i'm not defending what he's doing but.
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"Long running fight ferry different words from you'll okay we paying a maximum attention to make sure that the operation is surgical we don't have civilian collateral damage so that's why it's moving very slowly as far as macharia is concerned then beach prior to reasons conflict it was 95 percent populated by our ups most of those that are a population is now refuge in turkey so essentially p why do you why pg which is a subsidiary of pkk so usury it is after the americans clear us administation has admitted that will you can americans do not accept your characterize asian of the white pg as a terror organisation in fact they have trained than they have offered them support and we know that the americans who have a base close the man beach are looking at incorporating elements of the white pg into a socalled border force united states have initially denied the dealer working with a subsidiary or at divac offshoot of pkk which is on their territories they come a flies date as as the f sit in democratic forces but the reality is it's dominated by pkk leadership pkk militants you can watch a senate hearing where the axe us defence minister admits that peace why do you y p g is largely related to pkk now you can but let's get back now midpitch essentially was subject to ethnic cleansing us administration had promised on numerous occasions that deal would pull back to east of euphrates so that the refugees could come back but they never delivered on their closure part but from what you're saying the bottom line is this is going to be a very long running operation if you want to change the demographics of men beaches you've indicated to me what was could go on for months serrano sir entire she could be occupied by turkish forces for a very long time and you also as i have just mentioned you could come up against american military personnel if you insist on going into men beach since the fall we have no interest in controlling a single inch of syrian territory we have no interest i want to make that clear we're not there on a permanent basis we are dare because our national security concerns have forced us to good at secondly yes we do want to see stabilisation in the region so.
"pkk" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Of syria in just a minute but i was wondering if you could clarify one thing for us is it accurate to describe them the white pg the group that's been dominant there our as intimate allies of the pkk or or as president heir to one would say the syrian wing of the pkk well there is some truth to that and i would break with southern by kurdish rennes on this yes historically as we were just talking earlier abdul old salonen the pkk use syria as a safehouse firm of our nineteen as seventy nine to nineteen ninety nine 1998 and does so the pkk has a long history in syria and after the pkk was kicked out of syria because of turkish pressure but there was a pkk familiarity with syria and a two thousand three the pkk or it's it's offshoots of her leg in syria formed the p yd so there you have it the p yd is closely related to the pkk but it is a suffered organization and the united states famously or may be infamously recognizes the pkk as a terrorist organization but not the p y de indeed the p y d is an american ally against isis michael gunter is the author of the kurds in modern history of books he teaches political science at ten seatac and joins us from nashville thank you very much thank.
"pkk" Discussed on Here & Now
"In syria and then what he's actually trying to accomplish with this military offensive tech his primary goal in john in now with this operation is to end the presence of the kurdish y p gene militias at its borders which it perceives as a national threats and of the syrian offshoot of uh the pkk the pkk has waged a bloody insurgency within turkish territory for over three decades and it has been recognised by the us and the eu as a terrorist groups are turkey says why pg is an offshoot of of the pkk and it should be regarded as a terror group and turkey sees it as such okuda believes that why pg aims to link offering where these current operations are held with other kurdish enclaves along their turkey syrian borders such as corban hinges era and to establish a kurdish corridor turkey says it will not what happened now of course all of this is complicated by the fact that the united states government sees the kurds at least in some way as an ally because they're fighting isis inside of syria what is all of this doing to the us turkish relationship how much more strained can that go through while you all keen will also holes arguably at home neil law abbott especially after oval less announcement of all the plan to establish a border security force on the taking syrian boy day to be formed predominantly by the kurdish vajpayee gforces antara felt and increasing pressure to act and some in turkey argue that that announcements of the plant at stumps aboard a security force triggered this offend operation washington later denied that plan that turkey has said that it has lost its trust that the us administration i spoke to presidential spokesman evac in cologne yesterday and he says.
"pkk" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"The national were called the main reason is turkey's anger over us cooperation with the kurdish group in northern syria in the eyes of turkey discouraged group that has been a very effective fighter against the islamic state aycell is an affiliate off a kurdish terrorist organization that has been waging a war in turkey since the 1980's the pkk the white pg in syria which is the kurdish group is a strongly affiliated with the pkk and in the eyes of turkey the united states is cooperating with a terrorist organisation in order to fight and other terrorist organization and that's not acceptable either to listeners that might sound like a ladder letter letters the pkk the white pg i think the important distinction for people on the turkish government rai is that some of these fighters have been designated as terrorists and work against the turkish state right that's right the pkk is a eldredge terrorist organisation by the united states the white pg however the syrian wing of the party is not and they have never attacked turkey's so the united states has this grey zone where he can operate saying yes dear organically linked about they have not targeted turkey their active in syria and by the way they are very effective against aycell turkey basically accepted the us corporation which the ciragan towards very reluctantly hoping that this cooperation would end once the fight against aycell anz it did not happen dissuade last week the united states declared that it would continue its cooperation with the syrian kurds and establish a border security force about thirty thousand strong and turkey realized that this partnership between the united states and the kurds was turning into a strategic partnership more than just a technical operational alliance and it wanted to send a very strong signal to the united states that it would not be acceptable why go after a free and specifically offering.
"pkk" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder
"That there even you know targeting mean forget the pkk they're targeting actually you know right kurdish civil society in genuine democratic party parties right it in its stunning i already bad we come to this point because only the justice and development party only be akp who would have opened negotiation with the pkk crude had spoke in a bow um easing restrictions on kurdish language expressions of of kurdish culture uh only that party could have done it based on its worldview and and and that worldview was let's ratchet down the emphasis on turkishness uh that central to turkish nationalism let's relax goes ideas and and build up the idea that we're all a bunch of a happy muslims in this country that we call turkey and we can all be turkish citizens what happened and it began happening really with the uh spring 2014 municipal elections would to one stand was although atp mayors and and others didn't use any racist they didn't seem to some votes two nationalist parties uh in he has an increase in the sprint 2014 he was looking down the barrel of a presidential election and importantly a general election in 2015 in aired doing is if anything each shrewd careful and paranoid politician as all good politicians are and he made the decision to shift back and capture this kind of nationalist quarter of uh of the uh turkish electorate and the idea was that he would secure his place as president secure a majority in the parliament.
"pkk" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder
"Since for the united states because of course the turks regard the why tg decision kurdish forces as just an extension of the pkk and there were are terrorists and see the united states as essentially enabling a terrorist state on turkey's southern border um so and i i will just no we don't have to believe rupel i know some people are jumping up and down now and i i i'll i'll say i share some of the ambivalence of the pkk i i mean th they've certainly engaged in campaigns that have targeted in hurt civilians so i think on some level that's a fair description for any group or individual uh who would harm civilians for an ideological and is engaging in terrorism by also do recognize the arguments for it um you know the filling a number of other very legitimate very important political function so let me just sort of table an acknowledge that in the on the audience but that being said i mean okay it also though reveals contradictions in turkish uh policy on contradiction being was turkey far too blase at best potentially collaborationist at worse with isis itself a couple of years ago and the second being you know we've talked so many times and at this point i mean we're just in the full transition there's no debate any more about air to one in his governance in what it represents but in the phase of the sort of who is heir to one and there are these terrible things but there's also these really progressive things happening that perhaps doing for cynical reasons but he is doing them they were opening up he was one negotiating with the pkk he was the one actually making some small but concrete steps in the direction of kurdish civil rights i guess we'll get to why turkey feels betrayed by the united states but the first sort of thing out of it for me is that okay well what about turkey's own ambivalent relationship with isis number one in a number two what about its own kind of flip back in the last couple of years to such a nationalist posture with its kerr.
"pkk" Discussed on The President's Inbox
"The turkish government president rid of type aired on at his justice and development party have over the course of less decade developed very strong ties with mr bersani and his kdp port and in two thousand turkish companies are invested there any kind of consumer good that you might want to buy in arab you'll comes from turkey turkish construction firms there i it was a a profitable relationship particularly since oil from the from the carragee was being exported through the turkish port of chan and the turks were taking a hefty a hefty commission for this but since the kind of flowering of the relationship between turkey and the k r g things have changed within turkey president aired rents outreach to turkey's own kurdish separatist group the pkk which is a terrorist organization but nevertheless there was an effort at negotiation has broken down in there was returned to to bloodshed between this group the pkk the kurdistan workers party and and turkey and in syria in the chaos of syria a kurdistan workers party affiliated syrian kurdish group called the people's protection units or the white pg began making significant territorial gains end was working in coordination with the united states against the islamic state so in his way through your these two distinct kurdish groups working with the us and gaining an and working successfully against the islamic state at were exactly the united states considers the pkk terrorist organization but was turning a blind eye to the y p jeez affiliation with the pkk against the islamic state of course you had the iraqi kurdish peshmerga working gets his honesty too.
"pkk" Discussed on 1410 WDOV
"Turkey right so there are ways to approach this i think from a political perspective that would be that would be effective and the pkk this should also be noted is a big banner right now you know the syrian democratic forces i saw this all over social media on some of the national security account that i follow it's not getting much attention because most people have no idea as but you listen to the show so now you know founder of the pkk a kurdish terrorist group in turkey that wants to create a kurdistan in turkey but and and has done so far it was a very did some very bad things of killing civilians terrorist group red pkk kurdistan workers party but ultra lawns portrait has been popping up in the middle of rocco because there's connectivity between the syrian democratic forces as the stf we've been using as our ground force not entirely kurdish there are also the syrian arabs who were part of that series never craddock forces coalition but you have a lot of kurds and they like uh they they like ultra lan who's now pushing for a political settlement but a turkey this is very sensitive disease considered a terrorist engage jing and terrorist activities hit a blowing up civilian areas attacking military targets inside turkey as so that's a little additional baxter pretty ouch lience photo was popping up on huge banners in the milan rocker right now you can imagine what the turks think of that to us walk through americans ever look who's a social on dirt ride rain ninety nine point nine percent of people don't half the no no no cares to the turks is a is a big deal of they they do not like seeing that an unless though i mean i i have no reasonably those photos were dr but i've seen them shared pretty widely on social media of the stf putting up photos of which will also anyway with that in mind i wanted to talk about about and this is probably going to drag the next segment sue i want to talk a little bit about uh the bernie sanders ted cruz throwdown happened last night on cnn a very interesting rome it's the most interesting of all though bernie sanders bernie he's back he's talking about socialism keno stuff give me yourself a good all the people will be better for you uh birdies out there with crews and crews who is a skilled debater.
"pkk" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"The bell tolls the next time i came assuming that she might like to read about another group of guerrilla fighters in the mountains but try as i might i couldn't find a copy and turkish the language in which was educated at a time when kurdish was suppressed in turkey a year passed i went back up the mountain emptyhanded i found a different leader awaiting the ivanka murad curry yellow a cofounder of the pkk without jhelum with a moustache just like him alongside him that renault he so hurt i nodded in recognition the pkk message this time a changed the group had begun to turn its attention to syria where kurdish areas were under threat from both the assad government's military are from jajce rebel groups the conflict in turkey was taking a backseat there was talk of peace between the old enemies i also her how it failed to come down from the mountains she seemed unsure you feel so free she said of the guerrilla life i redouble my efforts to find the book finally a friend stumbled across a copy at a small bookshop in istanbul more than a year past until my next trip the islamic state group had captured huge swathe barack the pkk fighters used the head north into turkey to fight it saw me now that we're heading south the fire i asked you had his i right in the can deal to find yet another leader shimon biotech a stole a man needing a much tougher fight the pkk was proving effective against isis but many of its members will not returning from battle little graveyards it appeared high up in the can deal with the faces of fighters adorning memorial posters by it was leading a more confident organization he exhorted the us to free themselves the board a find the pkk as a terrorist group i couldn't cease a heart i asked the fight away she was south at is all i can say he muttered of course she had gone to fight isis i asked if there's any way to get the book to her he said he would try all the way down i reflect on the pkk zone journey for being a call at band of rebel fighters in hiding in the can deal to a.
"pkk" Discussed on KQED Radio
"The kurdistan workers party which is the pkk the syrian affiliate officers all come from the pkk now i think the us decided at a certain point of late two thousand fifteen that it didn't look very good for the united states to be aligned with one terror group in order to fight another cara group but the fact is was rather hard to conceal it so what they did was the us set up a new militia colder syrian democratic forces and they recruited lot of arabs to serve under the kurdish officers who come straight from the same people's protection forest slash pkk look this is an organized force in some ways it's like a perfect ally that have on the ground in the only problem is that their pedigree is very mixed meaning the shortterm what's the way forward here it's not as if the us is going to stop working with these kurdish fighters and it's not as if the turkish leadership is going to stop being angry about that alliance well that's just more clashes and more bitterness mean among the things the turks are very upset about is after araca has been freed from isis who really takes over and the us says that it has an answer it's going to be the people of rocco the the the rightful citizens are going to be in control but as a matter of fact the structure they set up is one that puts kurds in key places in an arab coun and the proof is the us plan is probably not going to bring stability it might just assert show the seeds for a civil war in northern syria the usmade using forces in northern syria to protect the same courage that turkey wants to attack i mean it could come to that where we haven't seen the worst of report of right gettman his article turkey leaks secret locations of us troops in syria was published in the daily beast he joined us from assemble thank you so much gritted arctic and today we got a statement from the pentagon it says in part while we cannot independently verify the sources that contributed to the story we would be very concerned if officials from a nato ally with purposely endanger our forces are releasing sensitive information we have conveyed those concerns to the government of turkey each this is npr news michael kors is buying jimmy to and marketplace will have the.
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"Sunday while they are hoping for a bill that would both repeal and replace obamacare just repealing it could allow some democrats to cooperate beef harvey senators who said look we know markets collapsing we know people whose assurance it's devastate our state can't be with you on repeal because as one of president ali signature accomplishment but we can be with you on replace so if this was the row we go then there's that opportunity and that's something republican senator rand paul says he can get behind he says the current bill is a traditional washington bill and he says that's alienating conservatives but senate majority leader mitch mcconnell dismissed the idea he says he hopes for a vote after the holiday recess turkey's ruling parties as two of its officials have been shot and killed in the southeast part of the country and here's peter kenyon reports turkish authorities are blaming kurdish militants linked justice and development party officials say branch deputy chairman or honmor joan was shot in front of his house in diyarbakir province saturday and hours later another deputy idn uh he was kidnapped and shot in von province both killings were being blamed on militants from the pkk or kurdistan workers party turkey's been battling pkk fighters since the 1980's in the violence escalated after a two and a half year peace effort failed in 2015 turkey and the us designate the pkk is a terrorist group the state run news agency reports the von deputies predecessor was also killed a year ago in an armed assault by the pkk turkey's president has ruled out a return to the negotiating table as long as the attacks continue.
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"The rap artist ricky hampton known as finesse twotimes is under arrest in birmingham alabama after a shooting at one of his concerts in little rock arkansas early saturday morning the us marshal service says is being held on unrelated outstanding warrants little rock police say no arrests have been made in the mass shooting which left twenty eight people injured turkey's ruling party says two of its officials have been shot and killed npr's peter kenyon reports turkish authorities are blaming kurdish militants ruling justice and development party officials say branch deputy chairman or honmor john was shot in front of his house in diyarbakir province saturday and hours later another deputy idn uh he was kidnapped and shot in von province both killings you being blamed on militants from the pkk or kurdistan workers party turkey's been battling pkk fighters since the 1980's and the violence escalated after a two and a half year peace effort failed in 2015 turkey and the us designate the pkk as a terrorist group the state run news agency reports the von deputies predecessor was also killed a year ago in an armed assault by the pkk turkey's president has ruled out a return to the negotiating table as long as the attacks continue peter kenyon npr news istanbul china failed to launch a new heavy lift rocket today that was carrying beijing's heaviestever satellite that's according to the official xinhua news agency china was hoping the type of rocket would eventually take its lunar probe to the moon this year i'm barbara klein npr news in washington.