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SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
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SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"pbc" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Yeah, so if I'm going with the person that I want to actually see next, it would be Cardena. But the person that they look at as me wanting him number two, that's the person I want to see also, and that's Navarrete. Sure. That's interesting. Navarrete is an exciting fighter. Mexican. That would certainly be a stylistic fight in the ring. Why do you say Navarrete would like, you know, Cardena you want, but Navarrete, why would he interest you the most? You know, the hype, the style behind them, just, you know, the intensity of that fight, I feel like because he comes, you know, he comes and he got the awkwardness with him. I like him, you know, I like how he moving. I feel like I can make him look basic, you know, so it's one of the things where I just, I think that's the fight that will make me like, turn me over to, like, you know, pound for pound or something like that. Is your goal right now to become undisputed or do you have different goals at the moment? My goal right now is to come, I definitely want to become unified. I know the road to undisputed would be hard in my division, so I'm not really going to make that a big goal because the belt so spread out. You got Hector with PVC, then Navarrete with top rank and Cardena obviously with matchroom. Maybe that's why being a free agent is a good thing, man. Maybe that's why being able to pick and choose where you go ain't bad. Yeah. Yeah. But Navarrete said they're going to keep him away from me. No, for sure. We ain't ever had no discussion about fighting him, so I don't see that happening. That's just a fantasy fight for me. I don't see it. I don't see it, but definitely want to unify and I want to keep growing my fan base to where I, you know, move up to 35 and eventually move up to 40. And I don't know, that might be the last way I go, but you never know, you know? So that's my thing, just building my stock right now and just showing everybody that I'm here to stay. I'm one of the greats. Would you be comfortable building your fan base in the UK against someone like Joe Cardena? Yep. That's why I would love to go to the UK. I don't understand a lot of the talk was priced each other, priced ourselves out or whatever. Like, bro, we never even talked about no numbers or nothing. We didn't even have a conversation, bro. The most we talked was on Twitter and that was me going at him and he was coming back at me. Other than that, we didn't even get that far, you know? So, and it just tell you, like, out of my last three or four fights, only like two of them has been in the US. Dubai, Costa Rica, now Mexico. I have no problem going overseas. Like I say, I always say the ring don't change and the people can't fight for them. So, you know, I would definitely go to the UK for sure. There are some Americans that have made some good money fighting over in the UK. And if you look at your potential options, you know, if you can get Cordena, who knows, maybe wouldn't Warrington fight again at 130? That wouldn't be for another title if you fought one of them, but that's a lot of money fighting over there. It's a business first, right? Like that's what you're after, first and foremost. Most definitely. I have no problem going to the UK. I love their fans, their lawyer fans, just like. I kind of like to compare them to the Mexican fan base that their lawyer and they behind their guys 100%. So I would definitely like to go over that. And I guess I got some UK fans. So shout out to them, you know, shout out to them. But for sure, I go over the next fight. First up, first up, you've got Eduardo Hernandez in front of you tough guy. And you said you want to show something in this fight. What kind of things do you want to show? What kind of performance are you hoping to put on on Saturday? A clinic, man, defense, offense, my power, my speed, just everything. I don't think a lot of people that see me spar that see me work in the gym. They see what I actually can do. But certain fights, you know, certain styles, you know, you fight that certain style. And I feel like this is going to be that style in front of me to bring out my fireworks, bring out my talents and stuff. So I'm looking forward to it. That's a good time, man. Well, good luck to you on Saturday against Eduardo Hernandez. Always good to see guys like you, Shaki, have success, guys that have had to work hard to get to where they are to get a world title around their weights. Congrats on that. And hopefully after this fight, big things to come in 2024, man. Good luck to you. Thank you, bro. I appreciate you. That's it for this week's episode. My thanks to Mike Coppinger and Shaki Foster for joining the show. As always, subscribe, rate, review this podcast on Apple podcast, Spotify, wherever you download podcast. And later this week, stay tuned to this feed. We will get my conversation with Tyson Fury.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"pbc" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Yeah. But I keep it in my room and I keep it in my room and I just keep it on my dresser. So when I'm walking in, when I'm waking up, I see, you know, and it's just my motivation getting up and just knowing I don't want nobody else to have it. That's great. That's great that you got to take it home with you. I mean, I know so many guys that, you know, they win that title and they wear it in the ring, but then they give it back to the fighter that they took it off. They have to wait like weeks, sometimes even more than a month before they can get their hands on their belt. I know it drives guys crazy. That's awesome that you got to drive home and have it right away in your hands. These titles, Ohshaki are, they're currency in boxing. You have a title, all of a sudden you become a player in whatever division you're in. It took you some time to kind of, you know, as you are doing here, aligning yourself with matchroom, you know, getting a fight on the zone and potentially getting some other big fights down the line after that. Did it surprise you that, you know, the offers maybe didn't come flooding in or did they come flooding in or you just had to decide what you needed, what was right for your career? The offers, they came for sure. Just certain things got into the, to the middle of it. So right now we're going into, we're still a free agent. We're going into the, to the fight. Still free agents, but I just feel like, you know, God had the other plans. Whatever they was offering me then with the performance I'm going to give next week, it probably got to be more. So I'm just putting it in God's hands. It definitely was a lot of offers that came though, for sure. So is it fair to say then you're kind of betting on yourself again in this fight that you're going to do something special and whatever is out there is going to be even better for the one after? For sure. For sure. That's, that's, that's definitely the plan to go out and go in there and put on a great performance, spectacular performance and then, and then figure it out after. It does make some sense at least on paper to be working with matchroom as you're doing for this fight specifically, they've got Joe Cordena, who's got a title overseas. They've got Lee moving up in weight who was probably going to compete for a title at some point. They seem to be players in the 130 pound division. Was that on your mind when you decided to take this fight working with matchroom? When I first became a free agent, I'm not going to lie. Matchroom was, you can hear me, bro? I can hear you now. You got back in. Yeah. Well, yeah, we'll clean that up. My bad. Yeah. Like when I first became a free agent, matchroom was definitely like top on my list, like one of the top on my list. Hopefully, like I say, we can do business after this and move forward. I don't want to look past my guy, Rocky, but you know, when we get the W I'm definitely willing and open to making them kind of fights after this for sure. What's the unification fight? If that's what you're after, what's the unification fight that right now interests you the most? I would say Cardena, but the one that would make me most excited and most get up for is Navarrete.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"pbc" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"But Mike, it's shaping out to be like a really good card from top to bottom. You've got Subaru Almatias on that card in an excellent fight, 140-pound world title fight. Jamal Charlo, I'm not overly enthused about him fighting Jose Benavidez, but as a co-main undercard, that's fine. Having Jamal Charlo back in a comeback fight in the main event, I think is going to be competitive. Do you really think they can pull that off and satisfy all the obligations they're going to have by, let's say, doing one pay-per-view per month and loading up the undercard with some of their fighters? I think they could. I don't think it'll come down to that, but I think what it will come down to is with these pay-per-view distribution deals, let's say Amazon, they're going to need some guaranteed money or want some guaranteed money. That's how Heyman's been able to put together all these big fights over the years is having some guaranteed money that he's not taking all the risk. And then some of the risk is being passed onto the network. I remember when Wilder fought Dominique Brazil after the zone offered Wilder, I think he made like 20 million for Brazil. Maybe it was a little less, but it was something out. It was between 15 and 20 million. It was outrageous. So, um, look, I think when, when PBC had, I think it was like what almost 200 fighters a few years ago, they ended up cutting a lot of those fighters. And there were, there were fighters at the end of the roster, obviously the opponents, maybe that happens now a little bit. I'm not sure, but they don't have as many top guys as they had a few years ago. A lot of the guys have aged out. Wilder just turned 38 last week. He's fought one round in two years. Um, and your, as you mentioned, doesn't fight really. So, um, you have that, I mean, Errol Spence, you know, yeah, I don't know how much longer he's over. He said a lot of times he doesn't want to fight that much longer. Um, Crawford isn't signed to PBC. I don't believe past, you know, the next Spence fight. So who are we talking about? We're talking about Canelo Alvarez, who has two fights left, talking about a Gervonta Davis. You know, you have, you have a lot of other nice fighters like David Benavidez, Kayla Plant, you know, Keith Thurman, but I don't think it's as many as you might've thought, but it's still the best roster in boxing. You know, one of the things I've been hearing from people in the industry is that when it comes to getting a deal for PBC, one thing that Heyman, um, could do is use some of the money that he's going to be getting from Showtime. Like there was one year left on that contract with Showtime. So they're paying him out something I've heard anywhere from the range of 15, $20 million. That's just, you know, gossip at this point, but like there's money coming in that he can use to subsidize some of, uh, some shows on a variety of different networks. Do you think that's a possibility for PBC in at least the first half of next year? I mean, I think it'll make a lot of sense if you go to an Amazon who, you know, I I've heard, and again, it's a couple of weeks ago that they weren't talking about guarantees at the time. So if that's the case, you could go to an Amazon and say, Hey, look, you really want to do a monthly pay-per-view. You want to have a monthly show that's on prime video. He, we have all this money, right? Like you said, it was a 10 figure, um, sorry, an eight figure buyout. We have all this money. Now they could put on a couple of shows for Amazon. That's kind of like proof of concepts, right? If they wanted to, and maybe Amazon pays for production or whatever Amazon, whoever the network may be, I think it gives them even a lot of flexibility. I don't think like you say, always say the TV landscape is changing, especially in sports. So I think change could be good. And I think Haman is going to be fine. I think he has a lot of options at his disposal here. Do you think, you know, in the absence of knowing what those options are, do you think that some other promoters and other networks over the next four or five months could poach some of these guys, maybe not poach from Haman. They'll always be loyal to Al Haman. They should Al Haman. I've often said, and we'll continue to say is been one of the greatest assets for boxers that's been out there. I mean, the number of fighters that swear by him, as you well know, are, are, are Legion. Um, but you know, there are guys have an idol for a long time and guys that want to get out. And if another network or promoter is offering an opportunity, you think the doors open for some of that in the next, uh, you know, half a year. I think the door is always open. Yes. Uh, when it comes to money, you know, a lot of the, you're right. Haman has been great to his fighters, even if he hasn't always been great for boxing, but you know, the money is drying up a little bit. You remember Haman, you know, had a lot of these guys when, after he had all that money from Waldo and Reed. So you're talking about guys that were getting, you know, two or $3 million for root and title defenses. Like that money, I would have to imagine is gone now that you're not, you're not talking about these wacky paydays and on the zone, we've seen it, the paydays have come down drastically from where they started. So yeah, as you think the door is open, the question is, is who are those fighters? Because I don't think you're talking about the guys at the top of the roster, but like even wilder was, you know, he was contemplating fighting in Saudi Arabia, right? Against Joshua. That wouldn't have been a PBC event necessarily. So I think fighters are interested. I just don't know that there are so many guys left at the end of that PBC roster. Again, like you're Dennis who gots, he has another eye injury. He just lost. You're talking about, I think the roster's been out quite a bit. I'm sure there's guys I'm forgetting, but I don't see a lot of young prospects on the PBC roster. Not, not as much as it may have been years past. It doesn't seem they've been focused on that. What do you think Deontay Wilder does at this point? You mentioned he just turned 38 and the Saudi deal is not there, at least not now for him to fight Anthony Joshua. It's been a long time since he's been in the ring. You see some of the training videos of him at Brickhouse Boxing. Malik Scott is there now, working out. So it seems like he's in shape, but the kind of money Deontay Wilder is looking for, it's just not there, Mike. And I don't know, unless the Saudis come in or another middle Eastern country comes in, it's just not going to be there. At least not in terms of a guarantee. What do you think his future is? I mean, we've been talking about, especially Eddie Hearn has been talking about this Wilder Joshua fight for so long now that I think if we don't see it, it's going to be a disappointment. It's going to be something that we talk about with Wilder's really. I mean, he should have, in a perfect world, they would have already faced both of those guys. So yeah, you're right. The money's not probably what Deontay Wilder's used to. And I doubt he needs to make any more money with all the money he's made. I mean, he made, you know, tens of millions of dollars already in his, in his career, some big fights with Tyson Fury. But I think he has to be realistic, like you said, and realize that, you know, the money that Eddie and Shelley were guys probably floating around for Joshua is not going to be there. Go fight Joshua in Vegas. Go, you know, you're going to be favored to win, go get a couple more fights in before the end of your career, because once the career is over, it's over. And then your earning power is gone. And you can make a lot of money fighting in Vegas. There'd be a big site fee there. I think that fight would do pretty well on pay-per-view, you know, certainly not, you know, not a million by type of number, but that would be one of the more successful pay-per-views of the year. If those two got together in Las Vegas. Yeah, I'm all for that. You know, the guy that I was interested in and he's not a Heyman guy, Boots Ennis is the guy I'm most interested to see what happens to, you know, over the next few months. Boots, you know, affiliated with PBC, of course, fighting on Showtime, but he's been a guy that's been pretty active, Mike, over the last couple of years, picked up an interim title, widely regarded as a future pound for pound type guy. He strikes me as someone that could wind up somewhere else. He strikes me as someone that could wind up fighting on another network at some point in the next year. And if you're top rank, you just had a big win for your guy, Giovanni Santiano, who put a beating on Alexis Rocha this past weekend, or if you're, you know, golden boy or matchroom or somebody else, that would be a guy I'd be pretty interested in, in, in Boots Ennis. Yeah. I mean, Boots Ennis is a fantastic talent. He's in the right weight. I think it's going to be a question of where are the fighters at 147 because Spencer Crawford, look, Spencer already said he's done with 47. Crawford is still at 47 for now. He's the industry, the champion, but who else is really there anymore? It's not, you know, Stani Onis. Yes. Virgil Ortiz moving up. So I think it's going to depend on where the 47 pounders are, but yeah, I could see Ennis definitely shopping around. Like you said, he's not with him and it never was affiliated. Yes. I think he had an agreement with Showtime. I would say he's the number one free agent out there, right. In terms of being a guy that is marketable, has an exciting fighting style, has a whole load of talent. I think his name's getting up there too. Yeah. I'd love to see him. I mean, that, that performance by St. Dion last week, first of all, came out of nowhere. Like I did not see St. Dion having that kind of power to just put that kind of beating on Alexis Rocha, but that would be a fun fight if, if top rank got interested. And there are some other good fights for him in and around that weight class as well. All right. A couple of things I want to ask you about specifically before I let you go. We've talked about Crawford Spence a little bit in a roundabout way. Where are we with that? We know Errol Spence doesn't want to fight at 147. Crawford has the leverage of being able to say 147 or no fight. Crawford wants to fight Canelo Alvarez. Spence wants to fight at 154. There's a lot of moving parts here, Mike, and there's still, and there have been for a number of weeks now, but where do we stand at the moment with the Crawford Spence negotiations? Well, the other moving part, of course, is the TV deal. Like we said, Heyman is shopping these fights around, so that's going to be a part of it as well. Like you said, Crawford, yes. The winner of that fight was able to choose the weight for the rematch. Crawford has all the leverage. So if Spence doesn't want to pay Crawford some money and give him some financial incentive or whatever, you know, maybe Crawford says, yeah, whatever. I'll buy you a 54 anyway, but it's going to be up to Crawford. That's, that's clear, but that fight is being planned for February. And I believe it'll get sorted out once Heyman sorts out what he's doing with his pay-per-views and all of that. Do I want to really see the rematch? No, we, I think we all know what happens. I don't think it matters what weight it's at, but like you said, the other variable there is Canelo Alvarez. If Canelo comes calling and they're all on the same side right now, I think they could easily, you know, make that happen. And I'd love to see Spence fight like a Brian Castano at 54, somebody like that. What, what do you, I mean, Canelo is the other variable in all this. And I think a lot of people, well, no, I'm not going to say David Benavidez is going to lose. So it doesn't matter. But even if it was David Benavidez, even if it was like, I've done that three times in his podcast, you know, mentioned the Demetrius, Andrea is going to win. That's four. Even if Benavidez were to win on November 25th, he doesn't seem realistic for me, at least not that. That's not what I'm hearing from people that have been involved in those conversations. What is realistic for Canelo Alvarez is made because I think we both agree. Terrence Crawford while we may not believe it would be a highly competitive fight is certainly the most marketable opponent for Canelo in May. Is that even possible to see that we would see Canelo against Crawford in the spring? I think it's definitely possible. I don't know that it's probable. You know, Canelo didn't show a whole lot of interest in the post-fight press conference when acts about Crawford. And I get it. Canelo definitely doesn't need the money. And he's not, like you said, he's not going to get a whole lot of recognition. If he wins, people are going to say, yeah, what is he interested in? Like, what is he interested in then at this point? Because if it was just about recognition, it would be Benavidez. Like that would be the guy that he would be marching towards. And look, I'm never going to say Canelo is avoiding anybody because it doesn't avoid anybody. Like, but for whatever reason right now, that does not seem to be on his radar for his next fight. Well, I do believe he'll fight Benavidez in September, not May, but I think September, like you said, is much more likely. So I'm giving Canelo the benefit of the doubt there that we are going to see that Benavidez fight. If we don't see it in September or May, then yeah, then you'd have to say that it seems like maybe he's trying to avoid him. But I'm not ready to say that just yet. But I don't think there's a lot of great fights out there for Canelo. I mean, yeah, the Benavidez Andre winner. If Andre wins, like you say he's going to, that should be the fight. You already have the backstory from Andre crashing the Billy Joe Saunders Canelo post-fight press conference when, you know, we have all those great Canelo memes that Isla used to this day. So that will be the fight. Otherwise, you know, you can't do a Jamal Charlo fight because to the audience, it doesn't know any better, the casual audience, they're going to say, wait, another Canelo's fight in Charlo again, that fight where the guy ran around 12 rounds. So no, that's not going to work. So Carlos Adamas floated around by the, you know, I think by the Latin press, I haven't heard anything about that. I think that would be a tough sell. But Adamas certainly a very good fighter and he's at 160. I mean, who else is there? I mean, who's at 168 right now? I think it's kind of slim picking. So, you know, I mean, the fight will be Beevold. Canelo keeps saying that he's better than Beevold, that it was the hands, but he wants to fight Beevold again. That will be the fight. Yeah, but there's, there's just no money for it. Like the, the, the guarantees that Dimitri Beevold will be looking for, for a fight like that, guarantees that Canelo Alvarez would be looking for. That's a major problem. And I mean, Beevold, like, have we ever seen anything like this before where you've got the consensus 2022 fighter of the year, a guy that beats Canelo, beats Zutto Ramirez and comes back and does not fight in 2023, does not have one fight, not for health reasons, not for any other reasons. Then he wants more money than promoters belief that he's worth. Now I think Beevold is going to be back very early in 2024, but still to go an entire calendar year, this isn't a guy that's 23, 24 years old. He's in his early thirties closing in on mid thirties that he would go an entire year. Mike is, is flabbergasting to me. It's a total momentum killer too. Like you said, he's coming off the best you can even imagine. You beat Canelo Alvarez, and then you just absolutely school Zutto Ramirez. And I know he made a lot of money for those fights, right? Cause Zutto fight was in Abu Dhabi. He made, I know he made a few million for that. He made a few million for Canelo. Look, the most obvious fight out there and it's frustrating. It doesn't happen the right. He's the better BFI. I have to believe that there's a good shot. We see you next year, but better BFI still has Callum Smith on January 13th in Quebec city. That's going to be a good fight by the way, I think. But Beevold, I'm told he had hand surgery recently, but that he had the hand surgery because he was inactive and he was like, Oh, well I better get the same care of now since I'm not fighting. I don't think it's the reason he wasn't fighting from what I heard. I don't know. I mean, again, 175, I think we're seeing as we talk about this podcast that a lot of these weight classes don't have much depth. And one of the problems with boxing that we've all said for awhile is you look at UFC, you have eight weight classes. We have 17 weight classes in boxing. If you had a weight classes in boxing, you wouldn't have this depth issue where you have 175. Oh, there's one or two guys there, 168, same thing, right? Don't you think that's a big problem that people don't talk about? Really? I think it's a huge problem because you could easily combine welterweight and junior welterweight. You could easily combine super middleweight and light heavyweight. You could these, a lot of these weight classes and you get into the smaller weight classes. I mean, there's no reason that, you know, 118 and 122 or 118 and 115 couldn't be combined. 122, 126 couldn't be combined. 130, 135, you're a hundred percent right. That, you know, if you just eliminated a few weight classes, you would have much more depth in boxing. And of course, that'll never happen because these sanctioning bodies get a boatload of money for the titles that they hand out in these weight classes. By the way, if you're Demetri Beeville, like on January 13th, you are rooting hard for Callum Smith because as entertaining as the Beeville better be a fight would be, it's just not going to happen without like a middle Eastern country involved that would put up the kind of money that both those guys would ultimately want. If Callum Smith wins, you can probably make the numbers work in the UK. Callum Smith is popular enough in the UK that you could do that fight over there to the satisfaction of Beeville and of Callum Smith. And I'm with you, Mike, that's, that's a competitive fight. I mean, Callum Smith did not look good against Canelo Alvarez, but he's looked a lot stronger at 175. And we're starting, I think, to see some cracks in Archer better be, not that he's still not the, not that he's not the destroyer. He still is a destroyer. We saw that, you know, just what, 18 months ago when he beat down Joe Smith and he's had, he still looks like that type of guy, but he gets hit a little bit more. Callum Smith is taller, a better jab. I think that's a very competitive fight in January. I think so too. I think it's going to be, like you said, we saw better be out in January this past January against Anthony yard guard, a couple of times and better be, I've been hurt before, still finished him. I still expect better be up to win for sure, but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion, but come on. You say they need a middle Eastern country. So be it there. There's gotta be a place they can find for that fight. Cause again, we talked about, we talked about wilder earlier. It would be a shame if better be out in Beeville didn't fight each other before their careers were out. And these are two guys that could be headed for the hall of fame. Like they need this fight in their legacies. Yeah. Both those guys and both those guys have a reputation for like being willing whomever. I think among their problems is that it is entirely untenable to do a fight in Russia. You can't, nobody's going to sanction that. And it's just not, not in the offing anytime soon. And you know, the middle East is in, then they're out, they're in, then they're out. So we don't know how, what their appetite is going to be for a Beeville better be a fight. I just, I agree with you. I just have no optimism that in 2024, that's going to be the year that we get Beeville and to ultimately square off. Last thing for you, Tim Zou, you know, I've got obviously my feelings for Demetrius, Andrea, I think you have, are starting to get those kinds of feelings for Tim Zou. Every time I look at your Twitter account, Mike, or read something that you wrote, you're writing about how star-spangled awesome that Tim Zou is going to be. Look, great performance against Brian Mendoza. He, he looks like he's maturing every single fight. He's disciplined. He hits hard. He's got a great chin. He now says he is coming to America. He's leaving Australia and those domestic fights behind. He's going to come to the U S to try to land the big fights, most notably against Jermell. Charlo still got three belts at one 54. How realistic in your mind is zoo Charlo in let's say the first half of 2024. I think it was a good shot. It happens, but that's really up to Jermell Charlo. He's the guy with three titles. He's still the eight side in the U S and he's going to, he's going to have to figure out, he should, he's made a lot of money against Canelo Alvarez. Can he still make the one 54? He said after the fight that he could easily make it that he had to bet. It was hard for him to come up and wait. So I would have to take him at his word and hope that we do. I think it's a chance we see it. Yeah. But I don't think that's going to go all that well for Charlo. Yeah. I, I am, I am driving this Tim Zou bus. If you're not on the bandwagon, now get on it. This guy's, he's a problem here in mind. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but he reminds me a lot of triple G. I'm not saying he's not good, but there are a lot of similarities to his game. Very patient approach in the ring, just like triple G knows how to cut off the ring, punch variety, those uppercuts. I mean, he hits Brandon Mendoza, some whole leashes, right? Uppercuts. And I think Mendoza is probably being underrated a little bit. He's a good fighter. He showed a lot of toughness, never stopped trying to win against Tim zoo and Sims are just broken down. Nonstop pressure knows how to cut off the ring. I mean, he's going to be in a lot of good fights. So with his fighting style, his famous last name, and you got to just as fighting mindset. I mean, this guy had a fight against Dremel Charles scheduled for January in Vegas. The bike gets canceled because Charles had a hand injury. And instead of waiting around for Charlo, he fights three times. And it's a good thing he did too, because we saw Charles go and fight Canelo Alvarez seems to could have waited around and been like people had no, no fight in 2023. Instead, he scores the biggest one of his career against Tony Harrison stops him first round knockout of Carlos Ocampo. And then last week, he looks really good against Brian Mendoza. So I do I do think Tim zoo fighting the US fighting on US television in prime time. And if he's built the right way with his fighting style, I think he's a total package. Now really smart by Tim's you to stay active activities, the boxer's best friend. And you stand in the way of making some money and staying active and keeping your skills sharp. What worries me Mike about the Dremel Charlo fight is I think Charlo is going to be very expensive for that fight. I think he's going to demand a significant amount of money after, you know, you know, fighting against Canelo Alvarez. I'm not so sure that money is going to be there, at least not in the form of a guarantee. Dremel Charlo knows how dangerous Tim zoo is. He, he can mock Tim's whose name and talk about how he's not a big name in the US, all he wants. But you're Mel. Charlo is not stupid. He knows what Tim zoo is and what he brings in the ring. And I think he's going to demand a lot of money for it. And look, I frankly think it could lead to Dremel Charlo being on the sidelines for a big portion of 2024, because if it's not Tim zoo and it's not Terence Crawford, what else is out there? Yeah, he could move up and wait, but is he going to move up and wait and like challenge Jana Beck for the middleweight title? Is he going to move up and wait and, you know, try to do a deal to fight Eris Landy. Laura, if Eris Landy, Laura beats, you know, Danny Garcia is, he's obviously not going to fight his brother. Maybe his brother vacates and he goes for a vacant title at 160. I mean, there are some options for him, I guess, at 160 pounds, but if he does go back to 154 and he doesn't fight Tim zoo, I don't believe we'll see Dremel Charlo back in the ring for some time. And look, that's not unusual for Canelo opponents. When they make a bunch of money against Canelo, sometimes they take a really long vacation. Billy Saunders is still on one right now. So I think, you know, it, that sometimes happens. I think Dremel Charlo could be the next man in that boat. Mike, I appreciate your time, man. Follow Mike on social media, on Twitter at Mike Coppinger read his stuff. One of the best insiders in the boxing business. Mike always appreciate it, man. All right. Thanks, Chris. And when we come back, my conversation with O'Shaki Foster. All right. With the busy fall season, just around the corner, you might be looking for wholesome, convenient meals for jam-packed days. 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When you look back at that win over Vargas, how satisfied were you with it? Man, it was the best feeling to become a world champion, but I wasn't satisfied with my performance. You know, I know I could do a lot more in the ring and I can show a lot more of my skills. So I was kind of like, I could did a lot more, but it's all good. What part of it were you not satisfied with? Because you won pretty convincingly on the scorecards. I wanted to get the knockout and I wanted to show more about my offense to Arsenal late in the fight. But you know, he's a veteran, so he knew how to survive. He knew how to, you know, the tactics to stay away. But that's part of what I wanted to do. You came up in boxing the hard way, didn't have anything handed to you, you know, had to fight your way into that world title position. What did it mean to you to finally get that belt? It felt like, man, it was a feeling I couldn't explain. It was a lot of weight off my shoulders. Just going through so much, been through so much, winning that title just made me, it made me hungry. You know, it made me hungry. It made me know that I'm here for a reason. I'm destined for this. So I'm just happy to see, anxious to see what the future holds. Yeah, you say it made you hunger. And that was kind of where I was going with that. I mean, sometimes when you win a title, it's like, all right, I accomplished what I have dreamed of accomplishing in boxing. But then again, there are three other belts, other weight classes, like what kind of effect did winning that title have on you when it came to that stuff? Man, it just, it just let me know that I belong, like that, that is more and more stuff that I can do. You know, I want to keep adding stuff to my resume, try to get to the Hall of Fame, build as much wealth as I can, things like that. And winning that first world title, it just let me know I can do these things. So it just made me hungry. Like, what's next? How would you describe kind of the road you've traveled to, to get to this point? I mean, as I mentioned, you weren't, you know, the hotshot prospect aligned with the top promoter early on. We saw you fighting on the Ring City Boxing Series recently as a couple of years ago. You know, how would you describe kind of the journey to get to this point? Man, the journey was so long and just crazy up and down. I remember beginning of my career, like three, four fights in and like I would go to fights and I would weigh in. And then the day of the fight, they called me and tell me the promoter and got all his stuff like we didn't already weighed in and everything. And the fight get canceled, you know, just going through things like that on the way up. And, you know, the two losses and the business side and just going through all of that, it is a crazy journey. But now I learned from everything. I know what to look for. You know, I know how to be ready to when I step in that ring mentally and physically. So and I know how to focus and tune everything out, you know. So I definitely learn from all the experiences that I had. Yeah. And while I was preparing to talk to you, I was also preparing for something I'm doing later this week with Regis Progray, who is another guy that, you know, didn't have anything handed to him very early in his career. Had a lot, I think, the same stories that that you kind of shared there early on fights canceled, little money, you know, no promoter effectively behind you. Does it make you kind of appreciate the successful moments more knowing that you had to fight so hard to get there? Oh, for sure, because, you know, you don't want to you know where you came from. And like you said, nothing was handed. So, you know, you don't want nobody to take it, you know, and that's that's real big with me. When I go into camps, when I go into these fights, I still act like my back is against the wall. You know, I still got that mentality with the chip on my shoulder thing. So it definitely helped me out because nothing like you say, nothing's been handled. And a lot of these guys, they had the big promotion they had and they got these opportunities over and over again. I don't feel like I'm in that position. So I got to go all out every, you know, every fight, every thing that I do when it comes to the sport. Before I get to this fight coming up against Hernandez, I have to ask, how long did it take you to get your version of the WBC title? And where do you keep it now? When it's when it's around? Oh, I left with it the same night. Okay. It was the vacant title. So I was able to drive home with it. That's a nice feeling.
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"Nichols wrote the free advice to the promoters of usic and Tyson Fury, at least as far as the US goes, and probably globally make the fight free, put it on BT Sport in the UK, put it on regular ESPN in the US. I understand to a degree why Fury in Ghana is on pay-per-view because the MMA fans are gonna buy their condition to buy Francis Degana fights. I kind of sort of get that, but I've written this, Mike, like the idea of putting a fight where the money is already in hand, right? The money is like the idea of putting these fights on pay-per-view is mind boggling to me. That is the equivalent of winning the lottery and then stealing pennies from the jar on the way out of the store. Like it doesn't, I don't understand why you'd want to gouge boxing fans. So if and when the USIC Fury fight happens, make it on regular subscription BT in the UK, put it on ESPN. You'll benefit from that. Having Fury USIC on regular ESPN is a great way to kind of grow the Fury brand, even grow the USIC brand in the US. You've got to find a way to make it free. You've got to find a way to put it on regular TV. That's just my take on that. Let's talk about the PBC. Showtime is getting out of boxing at the end of this year. That much we learned in recent weeks. They've got a show with my man, Demetrius Andrade beating David Benavidez on November 25th. And then they've probably got another show in December, maybe two shows. I don't know what the final count is going to be before Showtime goes off the air, but they will be out of boxing at the end of this year. You're as plugged in as anybody on all this, Mike. Right now, as we record this in late October, what do you think the future is for PBC? What are they looking at? What's realistic? What is going to happen with their still very deep stable of fighters? Well, look, I mean, PBC has lost many network deals over the years. Some, you know, because it feels expired, other reasons. So I think they're going to be just fine. You know, Al Heyman figures these things out. He has a lot of fighters, like you said. And right now, I believe he's still talking to the zone, or the zone was talking to him and talking to Amazon. You know, I heard he's been talking to Turner Sports as well. So, you know, like you always say on your podcast, live sports rights are at a premium right now. Somebody's going to want this live premium content. There are some big names there. And what I'm told right now, basically, is that Heyman has three fights he knows are going to take place, you know, in the first half of 2024. But he's able to kind of shop around as he has these talks. And that's three match between Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford. You have Canelo Alvarez's May fight, whoever that may come against. And then you have Gervonta Davis's first fight of 2024, which is supposed to be earlier in the year. So those are three big names. Well, four big names. And you're going to have some attractive fights for some network that's going to want to do pay-per-view. But I have to say, I think there's, I think one kind of misunderstanding with boxing is pay-per-view isn't this massive moneymaker for the networks. It's really about the subscribers, serving as subscribers, or if you're on, you know, advertising dollars, that's where that's where the money's at. So I think PBC is gonna have to figure out their model a little bit. Like you said, they have the best roster in boxing. They haven't, they've had an amazing 2023. Some big, big fights. But when, and I think you touched on this on your last episode, when you look at their 2023 and some of the, you know, all the big fights are going to pay-per-view, the offerings on regular Showtime were, you know, stuff that you'd usually see on undercars on PBC and Showtime in years past. I think it was 2018, which was their best year. If you look at that year, I think it was very different than the last couple of years. And same with HBO at the end. So I think for PBC though, worst case scenario, let's say, which I doubt would happen. They can't find a partnership or deal they like. They could do their own pay-per-views and stack the cards and probably do one a month like UFC does and be fine. Well, I mean, it's an interesting point. I do think they'll have no problem selling pay-per-views or getting someone to be the distributor for their pay-per-views. Their top end talent is too good. People want to be in the Crawford Spence business. People want to be in the Gervonta Davis business. People obviously want to be in the Canelo Alvarez business. Those guys are revenue drivers. And even if the money is not enormous for distributors, whether it's Amazon, Dazon, somebody else, there still is a little bit of profit to be made there. It's just the question ultimately comes down to can they satisfy the demands of their stable, the obligation they have with their stable doing one pay-per-view per month like this November fight card with Andrade Benavidez, which Andrade again is going to win, by the way, just so we can keep that into the universe.
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"Yeah, you're right. I mean, when this fight was originally announced, the Usyk fight seemed like it was far away. They had failed in their negotiations in the spring, and Fury had moved on to the Ghana. And he was talking about fighting, you know, guys like John Jones and fighting crossover fights for the next year plus, which, you know, certainly irritated the diehards in the box community. But now that the Usyk fight is locked in, could happen as early as December 23rd, I think it makes this fight a lot more palatable. But Mike, I think we're kind of reaching a tipping point when it comes to crossover fights, influencer events. You know, the whole KSI, Tommy Fury, Logan Paul, Dylan Danis card was unquestionably a financial success. But it was a catastrophe in the ring because you had, you know, a bizarre fight between Logan Paul and Dylan Danis. And you had an ugly fight between Tommy Fury and KSI. And look, if this fury Tyson Fury against Francis, the guy who fight goes the way many expect, it's going to be lopsided and it's going to be, you know, kind of goofy as it plays out in the ring. Do you think we are reaching kind of that tipping point with influencer boxing crossover boxing where the appeal might not be as significant going forward? I mean, how many of these MMA guys have to step into a boxing ring and take a beating before people stop watching? Like, how many does how many does it how many times it have to happen before, you know, there are diminishing returns? Chris, I sure hope we're at the end of this nonsense because let's for a few years now. Let's let's but so I think like you said, that misfits event was a complete disaster and a circus. None of the fights were entertaining. Some of the fights in between the Dylan Danis fight in the case I fight did have some action, but those guys couldn't fight at all. So it's just making a mockery this I don't want to be sitting here get off my lawn, but it does make a mockery of the sport when you have some of these clown YouTubers saying it, you know, calling out Ryan Garcia and, you know, it seems like sometimes the zone is giving some cachet to these guys like no, let's not mix in serious fighters like Ryan Garcia who happens to do YouTube with YouTubers who happened to fight. So I hope we're at the end of this but I will say I'm very impressed by the way the Saudis have promoted this fight. They really have had their arms around this event with, you know, you saw the look like a theatrical trailer for Fury and advertising on the sphere in Las Vegas for the fight multiple days. I'm told that costs around $450,000 a day. I can't tell you the last, you know, boxing event where we had a billboard in the US for fights that even happened in Vegas. So it does happen sometimes but it doesn't happen often enough. So that stuff I hope is here to stay but I hope it's here to stay for real boxing matches. Yeah and look I have long been okay with the YouTuber stuff because it in my mind it wasn't taking the place of another real fight, right? It was separate. It was an additive to the boxing scene but the way that Logan Paul, Dylan Dennis fight played out and I talked about this a lot last week. The way that fight played out and the way the KSI Tommy Fury fight play out like you can't talk that much and then fight like that. You just can't. You have to at least be more competitive and I agree with you. I have no interest in seeing, you know, a Ryan Garcia versus KSI fight. Ryan Garcia versus that. Yeah, I don't want to see it. I don't want to see it. We obviously need more of the real boxing at the highest level more than we need influence in boxing but with this Fury and Ngannou fight, you know, Fury has a signed contract to fight Alex and Usyk and the floated date has been December 23rd. I mean Fury talked about that this week that, you know, he said Usyk has to fight him in December. That's his understanding about this deal. That seems like a quick turnaround, Mike. I understand that, you know, Ngannou if this goes the way most people think it should just be a sparring session for Tyson Fury but do you really believe that we could see a heavyweight unification fight as early as Christmas? That is the date. The only way it's going to move from that date, I'm told, is if Fury gets cut or injured. I mean who's going to say he's not injured if he says he's injured? So it's going to be up to Tyson, right? He's going to come after the fight and say whether he's good to go or not but I don't think Tyson's going to mess around with the Saudis who are giving him a massive bag of money. I don't even know if he can carry this bag between having a two-way rematch clause with Usyk. So he's going to have two fights with Usyk more than likely and the fight with Ngannou. I mean obviously he's making well over a hundred million dollars, well over that for these three events. But yeah, I do think we're going to see in December. It's a very important time for them. It's Riyadh season. They're doing WWE November 4th, Crown Jewel. They're going to have a bunch of big events in there. December time is when they did Ruiz Joshua when you and I were there a couple of years ago. So I do believe that is the date and I don't believe Tyson Fury's been training all that heart for Ngannou, let's be real. But I'm sure he's been using it to get in shape. When I spoke to him last week, he said, yeah, I was fat and now I'm not. He looks better. But I'm sure it's going to be easy to be in the best shape. He's been in a while probably having this, you know, this kind of warm-up fight before the fight. But again, I love it because it's going to only, we're talking about Usyk now two months earlier than we would be, right? So Tyson Fury is one of the best trolls in sports. Everyone, you know, bought it when he said he wanted to John Jones. Even then, the Usyk fight was almost done. Come on, Mike, 12-week training camp for Ngannou. He's dead serious, more serious about this than he is against Deontay Wather. He's certainly selling it in a way that makes you believe he's taking this fight seriously. But I agree with you. I think he knows, he knows exactly what he's getting into. And I think he's going to be a showman in this fight early on. And I think in the second half of the fight, he's going to beat Francis Deganu down and ultimately end it by stoppage. The whole idea about Fury's future, and he talked to you about this last week where he told you he wants to fight 10 more times, wants to sign a 10 fight contract. Fury's all over the place with his boxing career. Retires in 2015, he comes back. He retires again and he comes back. He'll tell you one day he is done with boxing forever. Then he'll tell you the next day that he wants to sign a 10 fight deal, which would presumably put him into his 40s as he's still fighting. So what are we supposed to believe when it comes to Tyson Fury? How seriously did you take his comments that he wants to sign a 10 fight deal for his next contract? I think that's the most real thing he said in a long time, Chris. I mean, I don't know that's going to be 10 fights exactly, but Tyson Fury loves fighting. And I think it's obvious that he's going to be one of those guys that's going to fight for a long time because this is what he's best at is what he loves to do. You see all sorts of guys that fight into their 40s, not because they need the money, but because they love it and they miss the spotlight and all that. And when I spoke to Tyson, yeah, he said, you know, what else am I going to do? This is what I'm great at. I tried retiring last year. I was miserable. So people have spoken to you close to Tyson all along. I'm sure of you as well. I've always said, Tyson Fury is going to be fighting in ballrooms if he has to. Now, that's never going to happen for him. I would say he's the second biggest star in boxing behind Canelo Alvarez. And if you're not Spanish speaking, he might be the biggest star. I have all sorts of friends that don't watch boxing at all that they know who he is. You know, he has a Netflix show now that was clearly really popular and all that. But I don't see him going away. I don't think he's a Lennox Lewis that's going to be happy just enjoying quiet time. No, he he's always been he's been a guy that has fought literally forever, like, as he often says, you know, basically came out of the womb fighting like and has been part of a fighting family for his entire life. And you mentioned that Netflix special and I watched it. I thought it was actually better than I thought it was going to be. But the biggest takeaway that I had from it was that Tyson Fury has no idea what to do with himself when he's not boxing. The happiest I saw him during that special was when he was going on tour and talking about boxing and being Tyson Fury, being the Gypsy King. If he's not that, I don't think he knows what to do with himself. So I fully believe him that whether it's actually signing a 10 fight deal or fighting 10 more times, I think you're going to see him fight until the wheels fall off. I mean, look, he's you know, one thing we've learned about this fight promotion, Tyson Fury is not 6'9. OK, he's probably he's probably about 6'5, 6'6 and Francis Degano, 6'4, 6'3. But he's a big, he's a big, tall guy, Mike, and it makes it less likely that he's going to be subject to the kind of concussive knockout that puts guys out of boxing. He's already fought the biggest puncher in the heavyweight division, Deontay Wilder, three times. He survived that and is still looking ahead to his boxing career. So unless he physically breaks down, which is possible, a guy that big, you know, pushing 300 pounds, very possible. The knees could go, the back could go. A lot of things can go haywire with Tyson Fury, but failing that, I think we are going to see Tyson Fury allow around in boxing for a very long time. And there are still some appealing fights. I mean, it's my understanding and I believe it's yours to like this fight is most likely the first of two. I mean, do we believe that? Do we believe that these guys will fight twice in the next, say, six, eight months? Absolutely. Because I know for a fact that there's a two way rematch clause there, meaning that for the listeners, the loser of the fight can can exercise the rematch clause, immediate rematch, no matter who loses the fight. Usually in boxing, it's only the more popular fight, which in this case is Tyson Fury. So of course, he's going to exercise the rematch clause if he loses. And so is Tyson Fury. So I don't see how we don't see a second fight. And I'm told the money is guaranteed already. But you know, I get always doesn't rematch clauses. So yeah, we're gonna see two fights. And that'll probably be Tyson Fury's, you know, maybe maybe Jerry fights twice in 2024. If he fights usic in December, I don't know. But I do think there are other fights that are intriguing for Tyson Fury past usic. You know, you have Joshua still out there. I mean, it's not the number one on my radar anymore, but it's still gonna be big in the UK. That's the area's expiration date. You have Andy Ruiz out there still, you know, you have a little Zhang, maybe here he goes to China for a fight against Zhang. That would be intriguing. So I think there are fights out there. Yeah, I agree with you and all three guys. I mean, Andy Ruiz, I'm kind of down on. Andy Ruiz has fought like twice since 2019. That to me is wild.
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"That was interesting to a degree too. Tommy Fury has become kind of the influencer killer because he has a win over Jake Paul and now KSI. So they got my money, but in the ring, it was dreadful. It was just dreadful. Dylan Danis threw three punches around and was disqualified after trying to take down Logan Paul with mixed martial arts moves twice. And Tommy Fury and KSI was terrible. It was just bad boxing. So you wonder about the influencer side of it. Has that reached its zenith? And you wonder about the boxing side of it. Are we really all interested in seeing a mixed martial artist in Sean O'Malley take on Gervonta Davis? Do we care? I see all these guys now calling out Ryan Garcia. Do we really care? This is going to do pretty good business, even if it doesn't. All the money that these guys are going to make from the Saudis is going to more than make up for it. But how much interest in 2024 is there going to be in this type of crossover boxing? I think these last few weeks are teaching us a lot that while the buildup to these types of fights can be intense, the product in the ring just isn't very good. And while I applaud Francis Deganu for taking on this challenge, even though we all know he's going to be handsomely rewarded for it, his future is in the PFL. His future is in mixed martial arts, which he's going to go back to immediately after he cashes the check for getting knocked out by Tyson Fury. And for Tyson Fury, this is an exhibition. His real fight is against Alex and Usyk, the first of what could be two fights against Usyk later on this year. So I wonder if as we go into 2024, is it over? Are we just going to get back to quality boxing, which is something we need more of? And maybe the exit of Showtime and the shrinking of the number of television outlets will force bigger fights to happen. But I do wonder if this stretch is kind of the death knell for those types of events, because while they have proven to be entertaining the weeks before, they are not very good on the night of the fights themselves. And I let's talk to Mike Coppinger, senior boxing writer over at ESPN.com, does a tremendous job covering the sport. And Mike, we have a big event on Saturday in Saudi Arabia. Tyson Fury against Francis Deganu is unquestionably an attraction. The question I have is, is there any possibility that this is going to be a competitive fight? You're dealing with the lineal heavyweight champion of the world, one of the top 10 pound for pound fighters, in my estimation, going up against Francis Deganu, who is undoubtedly heavy handed, but has never been in a boxing ring, has never fought three minute rounds. And in his late thirties is probably not going to develop into a spry boxer at this stage. So people think zero percent. I mean, let's be real here. Like you said that Francis Deganu is getting making was even going to be making his pro boxing debut, because this fight is not counting on their records. It's 10 round fights, not for furious title. That shows you how serious it is. So no, this fight will last as long as Tyson Fury wants it to last. As long as he's having fun in there. Maybe he keeps the crowd entertained. I think Tyson's a good sport about that stuff. But to show you how serious of a competitor Francis Deganu is in a boxing ring, Fury already has a fight lined up with Alexander Usyk on December 23rd. So as long as he doesn't get cut or injured, that fight is going to be on December 23rd. And it's a big reason why I have no problem with Fury fighting in Ghana. It serves to promote the Usyk fight. It gets him probably in a little bit better shape. And it's hard to give him too much slack for it because he is fighting the most serious challenger there is out there after this just two months later.
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"And we are back. Boxing with Chris Mannix, part of the Volume Sports Podcast Network. Want to welcome in everyone listening on AMP. AMP, of course, is where you can go to get the first listen of this podcast and all the Volume Sports Podcast. Make sure you subscribe to the Volume feed on AMP. Make sure you subscribe to my feed as well at Chris Mannix on AMP. We have a tremendous show for you today. Mike Coppinger, senior writer, ESPN.com, one of the most plugged in guys in the boxing business. He joins me and there's a lot of news as there always is in boxing. We've got Tyson Fury set to face Francis Ngannou this weekend with the backdrop being a fight with Alexander Usyk, which could take place as early as late December. That's the word. We'll talk to Mike about that. Plus the future of PBC. We are a couple of weeks removed from Showtime announcing its exit from boxing. I talked to Mike about where that stable might go, what potential broadcast deals are out there for PBC. Stick around. Good conversation with Mike Coppinger. A little bit later, O'Shaki Foster, the 130 pound champion. He's got a fight this weekend as well down in Cancun, Mexico. I talked to Foster about his journey to get to this point. This was not a guy that had things handed to him in his boxing career. He had to earn them. And he did that in his last fight, defeating Ray Vargas to win a vacant 130 pound title. Now he's going to defend it for the first time against Eduardo Hernandez with a lot on the line. There are some names in the 130 pound division. You've got Joe Cordena over in the UK, Emmanuel Navarrete over in the US. Foster wants a piece of all of them. So this is a big fight for O'Shaki Foster this weekend. Later in the week, just to give you a little bit of a primer, a teaser here, we are going to talk to Tyson Fury, who is the lineal fight this Saturday in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. That's a fight you can watch in the US on ESPN Plus pay-per-view. I get into a lot of things with Furious. You definitely want to check out that conversation later on this week, but it is the topic that I want to open the show with because here we are yet again, where the biggest event in boxing is a fight that isn't really boxing. I mean, Francis Ngannou, great UFC fighter, powerful mixed martial artist. He's not a boxer. He has got a 0.0% chance of beating Tyson Fury. Tyson Fury is not only the best heavyweight in boxing, but he's one of the top 10 pound for pound fighters in the world. He is a highly skilled heavyweight who is going to toy with Francis Ngannou, just toy with him. So if you want to buy this fight because you're intrigued to see Francis Ngannou with a different set of gloves on fighting in a different ring, have at it, but don't spend your $80, which is an outrageous price, but don't spend your $80 expecting anything competitive, expecting Francis Ngannou to pull off the shocking upset because look, we've seen this story before. We've heard this song before. Conor McGregor against Floyd Mayweather, Nate Diaz against Jake Paul, Ben Askren against Jake Paul, Anderson Silva against Jake Paul, whether it's at the highest of levels or the lowest of levels. The lowest is probably Logan Paul versus Dylan Danis, but whether it's on any of these levels, mixed martial artists getting into boxing does not end well for the mixed martial artists and it's not going to end well for Francis Ngannou. So it's got me thinking, have we reached kind of a tipping point? Have we reached the apex of crossover fights? A couple of weeks ago, we had a show over in the UK that was headlined by KSI and Tommy Fury and Logan Paul and Dylan Danis. And look, they got my money for sure because Dylan Danis did a tremendous job selling that fight. He made you believe in the hatred between Dylan Danis and Logan Paul and KSI and Tommy Fury.
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"The volume. Just a reminder that you can catch me recording this podcast live on AMP. AMP is the new live radio app that lets you call in and chat with me in person while I'm recording. Get the app on Apple's App Store and make sure you follow me at Chris Mannix to get notified when I go live. This is Boxing with Chris Mannix. I heard somebody punch him in the face. Anthony Joshua is a composed and ferocious finisher. Watch this. Andy Ruiz is the heavyweight champion. Hosted by S .I.'s Chris Mannix. That was my moment. Now with interviews, analysis and everything going on in the world of boxing. When you have talent, you are given another chance. Here's Chris Mannix. This is Boxing with Chris Mannix, part of the Volume Sports Podcast. Now we're going to welcome in everybody listening live on AMP. You can always get the first listen of this show and all the volume shows on AMP. Make sure you subscribe to the volume feed on AMP. Subscribe to my feed on AMP at Chris Mannix as well. Got a great show lined up for you this week. Eddie Hearn, the promoter of record for this weekend's Lee Wood fight against Josh Warrington over in the UK joins me to talk about that fight. Plus, Eddie always has a few opinions on everything else that's going on in the world of boxing. We'll get to that a little bit later. But it was a busy weekend in boxing. Canelo Alvarez successfully defended his 168 -pound titles. What's the future for him? What's the future for Jermell Charlo, who quite frankly didn't show up in this fight? I thought it was an embarrassing performance by Jermell Charlo who talked a good game, made us believe or made some people believe he was going to win or at least compete, and then just moved around the ring for 12 rounds to survive a decision. We'll talk about that and much more with Keith Idec, senior writer with BoxingScene .com. He was out in Las Vegas. Keith, let's just start there. Compare your expectations for Canelo Charlo with how the fight played out. Chris, what did you think of the way that fight played out in the ring? Chris, I'm not in any way surprised that Canelo Alvarez won. Of course, Charlo was moving up two weight classes. Canelo, although he hadn't looked all that great in his previous three fights, said repeatedly that he would look better because his surgically repaired left wrist was now 100 percent. He could train with it, et cetera. So I felt like Canelo would win the fight. But I did think honestly it was going to be a competitive fight. And the thing that really surprised me more than anything, Chris, which I think you just alluded to, is Jermell Charlo simply did not come to win this fight. He seemed to come to go 12 rounds with Canelo to avoid getting knocked out. And the reason that surprised me more than anything, Chris, is because that's not who Jermell Charlo is. That's not who he has been throughout his career. He has fought and promoted his fights and done interviews with a chip on his shoulder that never goes away. And it has served him very well because he's always been defiant and disproving sometimes imaginary enemies. But, you know, he has always used that to motivate him. And in this case, he really didn't. I thought that he would be able to flip that switch on fight night, although throughout the promotion he sort of behaved the way that he behaved once the bell rang. Like he didn't really believe that he could win the fight and that, you know, this might have been too much for him in the sense that he was moving up two weight classes and fighting a big puncher and a dangerous guy. And that's the way he approached the entire fight. You know, Derek James was on him between rounds. Hey, you're losing this fight. You need to do more. You need to pick it up. And he just never really responded to that. And again, I can't really emphasize enough, Chris, how surprised I am that he didn't try to win. Because, you know, this is a very prideful guy. This is a guy, again, who has repeatedly proved people wrong or tried to prove people wrong and used that as a way to drive him to great heights. Because, Chris, he's the undisputed 154 pound champion, the first one of the four belt era. He has avenged the two blemishes or the two previous blemishes on his record. He's avenged both of those. He knocked out Tony Harrison in their rematch. And although in his first fight against Tony Harrison, I didn't really think that he lost. It was a very close competitive fight. Didn't necessarily think that he lost. But he came back and avenged it with an 11th round knockout. You could certainly argue that he'd lost his first fight to Brian Costanio. But then came back and knocked Costanio out as well in his rematch. So he had taken care of the two blemishes on his record. This is just something that's just going to, you know, it's a blemish on his record that is never going to go away. And it might, unfortunately, be for him, the fight that people remember him for most. Because he just did not come to make this a competitive fight. And there's really no excuse for that. Unless he was hurt and he's not using that as an excuse. Unless his left hand really wasn't 100%. Because it was his first fight since he broke two bones in his left hand last December. Unless that was a factor and he's just not using that as an excuse, which would be commendable to hide that if that is the case. Just didn't look like he came to win the fight. And there's really no two ways about that. I don't really see how you could have seen that any other way. I spoke to Tim Zu yesterday. Did an interview with him for his upcoming fight with Brian Mendoza. And he echoed, we basically agreed on everything that Tim Zu said. And he felt, he was less harsh on Charlo than I thought he was going to be, honestly, because they have this rivalry. But he said the same thing. He was just surprised that we didn't get the A -level Charlo that we've gotten in most of his fights. And the kind of, you know, tenacious, ferocious guy that we usually see. Yeah, Charlo wants credit for going the distance. He doesn't get it in my book. He wants credit for not getting knocked out. He doesn't get it in my book. If you take on a challenge like this, I don't care if you move up one -way class, two -way classes, three -way classes. You have an obligation to try to win. Like, people are paying money to see you try to win. People are buying, spending 85 bucks on pay -per -view to see you try to win. He didn't do that. And I agree with you. When his career's over, you know, if it's corrected tomorrow, this would be the fight he's remembered for. For going up two -way classes and, quote, challenging Canelo Alvarez, but not really challenging him. I'm not surprised that Canelo dominated. I'll say that, Keith, because I've been saying that since that fight was made. I never believed Jermell Charlo could compete with Canelo because, and I say this about every Canelo opponent. To be competitive or to beat Canelo Alvarez, you have to throw with him. You have to be willing to let the right hand go. And since like 2018, when Canelo became this sort of middleweight and above destroyer, only two fighters have done that. Gennady has Golovkin done it, and Dmitry Bivol has done it. Both those guys have been willing to throw punches with Canelo. They have not been fearful of the artillery that was coming back. But every opponent other than that, that I've seen Canelo go up against, whether it's Callum Smith. Billy Joe Saunders had a different game plan, but eventually Billy Joe kind of succumbed to it. And now Jermell Charlo, they just, you know, they were trying to, Caleb Plant, I put on that list as well. They were just trying to jab and, you know, move and try to outbox him from the outside. You can't do that. You can't beat Canelo Alvarez unless you're willing to throw something big back against him. And, you know, Jermell Charlo was kind of an oversized example of that. You know, just the way he fought was just, I thought, just awful. Just a really weak performance from Jermell. But a kind of a continuation of guys that, you know, show up believing they have a game plan to face and beat Canelo Alvarez. But they just don't. And that kind of brings me to my next question, Keith, of who does at this point? You know, I think we'd all agree David Benavidez, at least on paper, is the most competitive option for Canelo Alvarez. I don't know if he's a realistic option for May of 2024. Terrence Crawford's out there saying he wants a piece of Canelo. I love Terrence Crawford. I think it's a marketable fight. But you're not going to convince me Terrence Crawford's going to stand in the pocket and trade with Canelo Alvarez. I just don't believe it. Jermell Charlo, don't get me started. There's no market for a Jermell Charlo -Canelo Alvarez fight. Less so after watching Jermell, the smaller brother and the more active brother, lose to Canelo. What is realistic right now for Canelo Alvarez as we look to the second fight of this PBC deal? Chris, the last time we spoke about this on the podcast, I remember telling you that the people who wanted to see him fight Terrence Crawford next, better hope that the Jermell Charlo fight is at least competitive, because then how do you sell a fight against an even smaller opponent in his next fight? And here we are. I'm not saying Terrence Crawford won't go in there to win. He certainly, based on everything that I know about Terrence Crawford, yet I also thought similar things about Jermell Charlo. I would think Terrence Crawford would go in there with a real attempt to win the fight. He's got a lot of pride. He's a very talented guy. He's one of the best pound -for -pound fighters in the world, coming off an incredibly dominant, career -defining win. But like you said earlier, Chris, when you get in there and you fight Canelo and he starts touching you in the beginning of the fight, people tend to realize, well, this is going to be harder than I thought. Canelo said that throughout Fight Week last week. He said watch when the fight starts and then you'll see Jermell Charlo realize that he's in there with a guy that he hasn't, the type of guy that he hasn't been in the ring with before, and that obviously played out. The same thing could be true of Crawford. Now, it is a marketable fight, Chris, and I think the public reaction to it, to me, has been somewhat surprising because it's been relatively positive. People want to see this fight. I can't stress enough. This guy would have to move up 21 pounds to fight Canelo because Canelo has repeatedly said, I am not doing this in a catchweight. It's not going to be at 164, 162, something where you might then think that Terrence Crawford has more of a chance to win. I really don't see as great as Terrence Crawford is, and as much as I commend him for wanting this challenge, I don't see this as a fight that he can win.
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"They would have thought next month if everything went according to the plan. So yeah, but everything is these are all movable parts now because we don't really know what's going on with trevante Davis, right? So yeah, spends could fight in May, spends could fight in April. Who knows? We don't know that yet. And look, the way it goes with Spence, I don't know, something else could happen where he gets pushed back again. I mean, in contract negotiations and car accidents and detached retinas, I mean, a lot of this is bad luck, unfortunately, for our expense, but it always seems to be something. So, you know, but I do think we'll get probably four paper PBC paper view fights within, say, a four to 5 month span, which is not ideal. But that's probably the way it's going to shake out. So you hear all the time and it's something I agree with that tank versus Ryan García is the most marketable fight that you can make in U.S. boxing. More marketable than spends thurmond. Maybe even more marketable than Spence Crawford, certainly more marketable than some of the other pay per views that PBC is looking to do in the next few months. I find myself wondering, Keith, what that means at this point. I don't know what the tank Hector Luis Garcia fight did. There have been some numbers float out there on the Internet that are relatively low. Usually if it does well, you see some attempts to leak some numbers out there that are pretty good. But as you kind of look ahead to Ryan García and tank Davis, do you think that's the kind of fight that breaks through kind of all the piracy that breaks through the numbness people have at this point to buying pay per views? Like, is that a fight that breaks through all that?
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"There's a lot of history between those guys. There's no excuses why that fight can't be made. So I do think he fights a big name and gets an opportunity to prove himself. Is it too late? Is he passed that youthful prime? We don't know. We'll know once he faces one of those guys. I think and look, you guys, everybody knows I would love to see it. I've been calling for it for three years now. I think one of the obstacles he may run into is that PBC is probably going to make another run of Canelo in 2023 to try to get him on a multi fight deal. And I think the offer is going to be largely the same. To fight Jamal Charlotte to fight David Benavidez or Kayla plant if plank can pull off. What I would call an upset if he can beat Benavidez. And if that's in play, because I do think that I think there's some momentum to do Canelo against John Ryder, Canelo was talked about. He doesn't really want an exceptionally tough fight, no disrespect to rider, but that's kind of a come off an injury type of fight. It kind of fight the Canelo frankly has earned given the kind of fights he's taken in his career. But if that kind of fights in play for September, October, and then into 2024, like, I don't think guys are going to take a chance on Demetrius Android. I don't see Jamal Charlotte running into an Android fight in the first 6 months of 2023. I don't see, you know, the winner of Benavidez plant in March, taking on Android before we know what Canelo is going to do. The best thing that could happen for Android is if Canelo says, you know what? I really, really, really want that beeville rematch at some time in the fall. And that frees up some of the guys in the PBC universe to potentially fight him, but I don't think people may not just happen. I don't know the people. People rematch though, people rematch is tough economically. There's a lot of money that those guys are going to want to fight each other. Again, you know, both those guys, the second time around. I think that's where we step in. You know, 'cause now that I hate that there's size of the street that is so ridiculous, but I hate it too. I hate it. Now that he is and I'm talking about Dimitri's Android on that other side of the street. Now if these spikes don't happen, we can stop talking about, okay, why aren't you fighting him? We can say to these guys, why aren't you fighting them? Listen, plant, win a news, confide them. David morell can fight them. These are great fights. You know, so now there's no issue that now you're gonna look bad. Now PVC will look bad if those fighters that you're named earlier won't fight Demetrius Android. And I'm pretty sure that, you know, him fighting on PVC now they had to be conversations. They had to be some things, if not promised to him, but, you know, some things to look forward to because I'm pretty sure he's saying I want these fights, you know, let's do this ten rounder, but you know, give me something here. And I think that Al is going to give him something to eventually, especially if he looks entertaining in his fight against there. I mean, look, if you just take a look at it in a vacuum, there's no reason that Android versus Charlotte shouldn't happen in like April. If Android gets through a Nicholson fight without any kind of injury, then why shouldn't it be?
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"No, that said, I don't think that it means that it doesn't happen like this time you'll say the first quarter of the year after. I just think that sometimes things get played out in terms of the schedule and it takes time to put these fights in the right spot. You know, I'm also skeptical of how often these guys are going to get into the ring. But I do think we all know that it's the endgame fight for both him both fighters, at least in the welterweight division. It makes sense. It's the biggest money for either guy. So if PBC is going to try to do some kind of business with Terence Crawford, they're not going to just do a one fight deal or even a tough idea and put them in the first fight with fence. You do, you know, they'll look to build in a little bit, even though you and I know it doesn't really need, you know, building at this point, that's what everybody's been asking for for two years. But the plan is there to put on some attractive fights to get to the point where you can have the fight for the undisputed welterweight championship of the world. And if what I just laid out could happen and what you said that you like also, it makes perfect sense. They're all makeable fights. They're all doable. I don't think the athletes are going to be reject those matches as far as the competition. It all comes down to what's on the table financially and whether it's worth whether they believe it's worth their time and effort from a financial point of view. But from an athletic and a competition and exciting point of view, who would not want to see that three 5 plan I just mentioned thought there's nobody else who gots and Crawford fights Thurman and both them win. What the hell else would they do before the end of the year? That's it. Well, you're stuck on the end of the year. I'm not talking about anybody. But you fight one time during the year..
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"Our next guest is a two time welterweight boxing championship now in analyst for fox on the pbc. He was on the call. Saturday night with guys upset. Paquito we welcome in showtime shaw porter. Shaw what's up. Chris did you see. Did you see that upset man. Unbelievable night that you didn't do it. Yeah i now now house. Were you surprised. I was surprised. So here's the thing what we saw from last night. We see that against in the fight that he had with me. We didn't see good boxing. We didn't see patients. We didn't see we're got turn us a jab. He was forcing trying to force me to fight him on and he never did that. One time with mandy with mandy setback his jab he puts combinations together he bought and yelp punched manny and and finish logic exchanges man. I didn't expect per. I'd expect even half of what i said the other day. See i've and you're right. You guys look great. But i'm i'm i mean manny's forty two and you know better than me in this game. Hit you at any point. How much did it look like man. He's just i mean. Come on these forty two is gonna leave you at some point and it just seemed like he just didn't have it. Wasn't this same mandy packet out. Here's what we know about manny. We know that many has fast hands. And he's got quick feet. We saw the pant hands but we did not see the quick feet and and the thing about it is after fight. He says yeah. My legs were sore. They were hertie and he never wants try to use his legs. If you remember like from the opening bell man he's known for using a little bounce about saint and we're any known for getting around guys pretty angles and punching angles. He didn't come here and start a fight with that. And so i think that before. He could even get to make an adjustment to do that. I feel like You guys had control and was really controlling. What jap and manny never really got started and like you said it could be a contribution to the age but i think more than anything..
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"pbc" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"But i believe that you know as we're looking at this heavyweight landscape of now i we've got a joshua usa going on september twenty fifth followed by october ninth tyson fury. The wilder three. You know the rest of these heavyweights are sort of like in this round robin ville and you know like michael hunter is going to have to select someone else. Prompt with prominent name. I mean you know you can look at the zone fighters and maybe like someone. Someone joseph parker would be someone that he could take on. I mean i'd love to see him Potentially even though it would be against the pbc guy luis ortiz. Or even andy ruiz Those would be the type to fight that. I would like to see hunter end. Because let's be honest. He still needs after that after that. Fight with He needs to prove that he can beat the fighters of that caliber. And if he can do so then absolutely. I mean i think the guy is a young athletic Strong guy with a lot of personality and It'd be great. It'd be a great thing for him. He definitely has upside..
IT Visionaries
How to Get the Most Out of the Cloud
"Welcome everyone to another episode of. It visionaries and today we have jenny colour. She is the us cloud and digital leader at wbz. Jenny welcome to the show. I albert good to be here or read out the gay. Pwv is a huge company and your title is while it's clear it's also not specific. We'd love to know exactly what you work on. Us cloud and digital leader. What does that mean for you specifically well being salvador for the question i appreciate it. We are currently in the middle of going through a bit of a reorganization and a brand relaunch for pbc. So a bit of this is what i'm about to make it. I guess in the firm. And i guess short answer to that what i would say as you know my mission. My number one mission in this role is to change the digital face of our clients. That's it so there's a lot that goes into that there's a lot of capabilities that make that up at the end of the day. That's mission is to change the digital face of our our clients of course to help them do it. In whatever way changes the face of their business and how they interact with their customers now. cwc's a huge array of customers. Which group are you. Are you focused on a specific group or give us an idea of which type of customers you work with all. Us industry's all of them. Yes all got albert hands full. There's no doubt in. This is a hard time doing now. Your prior experience tended to be like. I don't know how to best describe it like heavy industrials power. Utilities energy manufacturing motive. So it sounds like that's where you used to focus but now you will focus on anyone who wants to go change their face. Yeah i still. I've grown up by I've had a huge passion. My career actually personally for twenty plus years working in utilities actually regulated utilities in the us. And as i grew my career. I had the privilege of working with traditional oil and gas companies and manufacturers in
Tha Boxing Voice
"pbc" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"Logan even take a fight with tariffs because terrance. Say what you want about his resume filler. And and you know. People talked about manny. Pack killer instinct. Maybe not being there at one point in his career and it might be floyd who's killing like for just look like more accurate. He just let his hands go. The same amount of times is brown but actually landed. You know what. I'm saying and obviously wasn't a defensive brana. This was like a bona coming forward. One thirty five and even one thirty five brandon. Let his hands go more than floyd did. Last night floyd he needed to do combination punch in. And i think he just didn't want to like another caller made me believe that like they were. They were so convincing in saying that. If floyd would have hurt logan he would have never made the bag. In another exhibition like he would have scared exhibitions away. Yeah that's a good point. That's a good point. And it's like dan that does make sense like dan. Do people like you. On new emi l. You know what. I was thinking when logan standing in the corner. He's you know what i'm saying that the would is gene. Set off the war. We miss his intro. Welcome to baltimore gentleman do that right. We him he got a new number word. That's like was twentieth number. Like when you know. I think that was strategic and making that fight because that's when mcgregor lost his way the tenth round yup though you say like or they set in an eight round fight. That's was saved. Because duke was leaning on the dan fourth round so when i was thinking about. Did floyd carry them. I'm like yeah i like. This was out on his feet. Like tired. tie you're holding onto the ropes bro. Ropes and i wanna i wanna make one really quick distinction because would said that you know his you know. He underestimates clinton. I don't think that that's what happened. I he. It's not that. He had a good clinch game that he knew how in went to clinton i guess they kind of go hand in hand but there were times where he had his head on the wrong side. There were times just eating random shots because he left his chin out like he wasn't using the clinch to wayne. He was using the clinch to not get killed. Like that's the truth about it. I think i totally agree He was exhausted. Mario i need you to go into dot. And reverse the eddie i just did. I deleted the columbine. Fuck mistake the names. And i can't find the reverse under pressure moving onto brandon in cincinnati. Since i don't need to document to know who's this how are you to remind off. He played my bad. My bam coming to you chance. But i forgot. Pbc had accounted from like an hour ago. Apologies to talk to.
Ball & Buds
'Boxing News' ft. Combat Sports Insider Deon Clubbs (Ball & Buds Podcast Episode #13)
"Big terence crawford fan elephant in the room. Is we all want to see the task. Force earl spencer. Who is tasked. Crawford's bob arum aerospace is now heyman so let's pbc de espn top rank two different companies. And they don't talk that. Well bob air hill talk to somebody like eddie hearn's who's matchbox and that's why we're going to have the fury verse. Anthony joshua fight which will be happening soon helping the site but pack. I mean he has won. The belts task cropper. Only has one belt. Its way for our task offer to pillow more emphasis on how necessary that fight is to unify. Forty-seven welterweight division. I think if pack. Yeah winds i mean. Sorry one of the best boxers of all time but if he beats terence crawford somehow he'll solidified himself as how pound. I mean this may weather and then pack. Y'all right there for this generation. Yeah dan i honestly think that terence crawford will not come with the same protests when keith armand fault pack. Y'all was outclass outmatch. I'm saying a right now first clubs bangers clubs bangers on the list i care score for will win this fight In might go the distance. But i think tears crawford will will have pack yao dump by lisa sixth or seventh round. He starts a little later and then he wants he figures you out it's over with in pac l. Might be rabbi. He might be there with calmer. Gregor the wraps might be sectional. They all my internet things about life thing about how much they drink tonight before. Who knows what. I think pat will be going to sleep. Who could slum writer six or sound around that fight and crawford who have to belts. It'll be more if assist as far as him fighting Earl spencer fight really needs to happen for you have just one chance. I don't like all these these all. These belts and safety and buys are fine but we want one undisputed champion and had way divisions got right there startling towards that path with a anti josh will sisa fury and i think the wealth way forty seven trend towards that way hopefully by next year once cry a patio like trash that he has dispose disposable. Jettison get out here. that's to happen by next year. Oh yeah my brother. I completely agree. We got to have that match. We boxing match in our lives and i agree. I believe that terraced coffer will stop mini. Pack y'all i believe many we'll put up a good fight but yeah i don't think he has what it takes. I think he's a little too old to stop. Terence crawford crawford at the ball in booths. Podcasts he's really good. And i really like him and so yeah i think he's gonna stop him and i i hope so. I'm very excited. So we can have him versus like you said errol spence and see that joint in twenty twenty two fo the win- anyways so we have a huge fight coming up either this year next year. The heavyweight division is finally consolidating and we have tyson fury versus anthony joshua which will be the biggest fight in u. k. boxing history. So my friend. Tell me how we feel about the heavyweight division. How well they're doing art. We can't okay. Starts out first of all omar. Would you
KOMO
"pbc" Discussed on KOMO
"I'm Rick Fan sites are editor Jeremy Greater President elect Joe Biden, laying out his plan to boost the economy amid the Corona virus pandemic. It has a nearly $2 trillion plan that will give $1400 payments to supplement the $600 payments already given it was also extend unemployment benefits. It's been a day since the second impeachment of President Trump's an hour. What baby sees in his daily to Tara is following it for PBC news and spoke with Cuomo's Taylor van sites. The president is still in command for six more days, six days left in his first term, and as far as I can tell Doesn't seem to be really in earnest effort to begin the Senate trial yet. Where do we go? Yeah, so I need. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell was asked if he would reconvene the Senate before January. 19th to kind of fast track this process get the impeachment Senate trial underway in the same way that the House had fast tracked. It's part of the process, and McConnell said no, he said it would likely be after Joe Biden is inaugurated that they will get the Senate trial underway. So some House Democrats Pushing back on that kind of hitting McConnell hitting Republican senators. They're saying that you know that the Senate could be working right now. They could be holding the people responsible for this chaos at the capital that they could be held responsible right now, But senators are home so House Democrats not not thrilled with the timing of all of this. There's also concerned that Holding the Senate trial after Joe Biden is inaugurated might make it more difficult for Joe Biden to past parts of his agenda, You know, confirm some of his Cabinet members. He's gonna have a lot to do in his 1st 100 days. And if the Senate is consumed with the impeachment trial that's gonna suck up a lot of oxygen so that You know, And that could have been part of the reason that we didn't really see a full endorsement of impeachment from Joe Biden, who initially, you know, didn't say he was against. It certainly condemn the actions and said he wanted everybody to be held accountable. He condemned President Trump. But he also seemed to indicate at one point that maybe it was best for the President Trump, you know, just finish out his term. Hey, did Joe Biden did release a statement yesterday kind of praising the house and, you know, essentially saying that that they had done the right thing, But that is going to be a concern for Democrats. This feeling that the Senate might have too much on his plate. If they're having to deal with confirmations and legislating while at the same time figuring out the seven trials, you know, and as I was wondering, maybe it's because of the business that we're in you and I being in broadcast, but So much of our day, our our work day and and probably following us home around the first impeachment. See, made it seem like a really grand event. You know, we devoted a lot of broadcast time to it. How is it gonna be different This time, though, Like you say, it's gonna be a really busy time not only for the president coming in, but for a lot of journalists and people around the country trying to find out what's new in with the new White House. You know, it's funny. I have that same feeling When I got home last night. I remember last time around. I always spend you know, hours and hours talking about this. That book the lead up to the actual vote, all that the hour long hearings and how the process dragged on for weeks and It happened so quickly. We barely a timeto realize it. It was happening yesterday. So yeah, it's a very different time. I think part of the concern with impeachment being fast tracked and with, you know, the Senate taking up the trial after Joe Biden is inaugurated is that they're gonna be essentially holding the trial for a president who is no longer in office. And that's never happened. I think part of the concern on the Democrat side is that there might not be enough energy enough momentum to convict the president. Maybe season as delicate Terry with us on common news from Washington, and as thanks very much That's cool, Most Taylor van size with the interview. And today's afternoon sound bite. I want everybody to know that this same on is getting ready to take the punch. Get apart, John. Kobe, we're gonna knock this virus out. Is the vaccine, and I mean, if you in just watch Will knock it out. Didn't even have to grill me for the answer. Right? Sorry. But that is boxing legend George Foreman, who rolled up his sleeve today in Houston and took covert vaccine like a champ, Tony Garland and federal Way guessed it. Winds of $50. Annuals broiler Gift card. Listen for the couple afternoon Sound bite Weekday afternoons at 4 40 on camo news in a good message to from fighting Joe, It's for 50 and Jim Chester with your coma. Propel Insurance Money update investors awaiting specifics of the incoming Biden administration's plan. Coronavirus relief package stocks a drifted today, ending the session slightly lower. The Dow Jones industrial Average is 69 points while the S and P. 500 NASDAQ composite lost 14 and 16, respectively. Investors gave stock of Petco very Nice Wall Street. Welcome today for its I P o. Shares of the pet supply reach the lower priced at $18 the end of the session. Sharp 63% higher than that. That's your money now. Catch money News on Co mo A 2050 passed every hour. We'll talk about the incoming rain in our weather outlook next, also the latest on traffic coming up new.
Inside Podcasting
Interview with Rough Translation host Gregory Warner
"Hi and welcome to the PODCAST Brench Club podcast. My name is Adela and I'm the founder of PBC today. I'm so happy to be joined by Gregory Warner host of NPR's report translation a podcast about the things that we're talking about in the United States are being talked about in some other parts of the World Hi Gregory thank you so much for joining us today. So rough translation is a favourite among many podcast ranch club listeners, and we've actually included episode in a listening less. We did last year called looking for love but for those who aren't familiar with their show, can you just give us a little bit of an overview? Sure sure. We'll. Our tagline is. Stories from far of places that hit close to home. Our original tagline and season one folks have listened back that far was things we're talking about how they're being talked about in other places but both those ideas are. Sort of around the the idea of we're going to tell stories that. Take place in some other. Maybe, some other countries, some other culture that's but but it's GonNa feel close to home. It's GonNa. It's GonNa hit you in some way it's it's not that we're specifically telling non-american stories or it's them and us but just we're gonNA take you places but it's going to feel that it's GonNa hit you personally got it. Yeah. It feels familiar but it's a from like maybe a different perspective. Yeah. So I'm curious about your background and how the idea for the show came about. Sure. So well, let's see so. Terms of my radio background. So I went to Salt Salt Institute for Documentary. Studies that was my. First taste of radio I worked in some local worked at a local station called North country public radio. Up in very northern New York and then after that, I went to Afghanistan So which was not as much of a leap as you think because I went from one very rural area to another very rural area and the stories of actually quite similar in terms of the story of the economy as well as the story of. Loneliness and and and all that. So I spent I ended up spending about two years on and off in Afghanistan. Let's see that was from. Two thousand. Six to two thousand eight. And then I left for a number of reasons. But also because that period two dozen sixty, thousand eight was was you could do a lot of reporting then. That that you just couldn't that was a lot harder to do after two, thousand, eight kidnappings it started in a massive way and then I was based after that in in Rwanda, and also some in Kenya, an eastern Congo. So we spent some time in in Africa again as freelancer and then came back to the US started working for marketplace as a staff reporter kind of learned. Later the art of grabbing tape and making a same day story, which is when I ended up getting the job at NPR's the international correspondent in in Nairobi. Sort of it is a you have to use fast twitch muscles but. What's Nice about that job is that there was also a lot of potential for storytelling feature work. and so he was in in Nairobi actually actually in Ethiopia that I came up with the idea for this podcast country that you've lived in. And it. It came about I mean came up through a number. Probably the simplest story is that I had done a story for for radio lab on their on their episode call translation and it was it was an episode about an incident that I watched that I I was I was actually following the secretary of state then John Kerry he gave a speech and this Ethiopian reporter in the room stood up and asked the question. I remember that episode yeah and Yeah it was. It was like this very brief I mean honestly the whole incident really the question and the answer which was at the end of this conference which I mean in the story we talk about how this there were all vetted questions until this one guy got up because carry decided to be generous in this one moment anyway. So this guy asked this question but. It was it was such a mistranslation around this one word and because of this one word. Secretary Kerry seemingly. Totally. Misunderstood the question answered it. In this way that was very unsatisfying and the guy ended up taking a quite a great risk to to ask this question on Ethiopian state TV. For nothing but it was this opportunity to learn about this one word serious, which has such a different meaning in east Africa.
20 Minute Fitness
20 Minutes With The CMO Of Crossrope
"Well surge. Welcome to the show firstly. Thank you very much for taking your time. Talk today now. Thanks for having been really interested in this topic. It's something that I've always tried to do. The pulse like I'm sure many people that have customers of the past said they struggle with it and they give up so we're talking today about jump. Raven crossroads in particular. Can you give us a bit? More context about crossroad. An-and really how you came to be involved with with with business. Yeah absolutely so cross up. It's a it's a unique jump rope. Workout experience We created some time ago. Really with with this idea of giving people a funny way to get fit you know wherever they go And we'll get into the benefits of jumping rope. I'm sure but I joined the business back in two thousand and fifteen but really been jumping rope probably for the past ten twenty years. I'd say I think I I. I picked it up when I started boxing back university on known to go to tool for endurance and whatnot and I found that it helped a lot with my work that I played a lot of basketball growing up and still do and then you know even when I put the boxing gloves down. It's just one of those tools that have always kept around in my gym bag and enjoyed using it as a one tool. Eventually a came across the crossroad system. Back in two thousand twelve two thousand thirteen when it? Kinda I got introduced to the market became close friends with our CEO. Right right now and in the system similarly changed the game for me. Kind of became one of my go-to tools. It's really because of its unique design about our systems. We've created interchangeable set of jump. Ropes where you can easily clip in different weights and ropes in and out of your handles and that gives you more engaging in Bristol workout. Then you know what you get with a single. Abc Rope so similar to how you'd maybe have a wide range of dumbbells in gym and we like to offer different weights. Ropes that help with different fitness fitness goals. And so another thing that we really focus on on like jump. Ropes are ropes are S- are primarily designed for jump rope fitness so we've built on specifically along with their APP workouts. Help you get lean build endurance and build strength so they're primarily. Ah Fitness tool and with that. We've we've Created a companion fitness APP. That gives you access to you. Know hundreds of really workouts You can follow along to and do do anywhere really in thirty minutes or less which considering these schedules these days. Everyone's on the go. All the time is exactly what we need to even now the situation of like staying indoors. It's perfect time to pick up a rope and just do that anywhere wherever you in a house for example yeah exactly Amina Sometimes You know we'll get a lot of questions about the benefits of jumping rope. And some of them are obvious and some of them are not obviously great for building endurance and Cardio floodway but the portability of the tool especially in today's day and age on the ability to take your workouts anywhere and like you mentioned them at home is really important for a lot of people you know even before the craziness of today. We talked to a lot of people people who love the ability to be able to squeeze in a workout at lunchtime. You know we've pulled our community recently just to kind of get a sense of the versatility and different ways. People are adding jumper workouts into their routine and at the list really goes on. I mean some like I mentioned earlier. They use it does warm up others use it. As a workout finisher others added to their strengthen hit circuits some use it in place of Iran or combine it with Yoga practice. And so it's really. It's a really interesting tool for anyone who's looking to add it to whatever it is that they're all redoing. I hadn't even thought about the benefits to things like footwork. When we're talking about boxing honestly stereotypically in films and such you see people always jumping rope and you think that's obviously that warm up endurance. But you don't even consider the additional supplementary benefits like footwork which is obviously such an important parts of sports like basketball boxing even things like NFL. Everything thoughts you still need to have quite good agility. And that's the such supplementary benefit the thing necessarily comes to mind. Yeah no absolutely and that's something. I saw firsthand when I first started using it back in the day in day in. And it's something that I feel like. Sometimes there's a bit of a stigma with jumping road that you need to be well coordinated or athlete to be successful with it. And that's something we've really tried to think about when we built the cross rope system and what we've learned by running workshop shops especially early on is that we've really found a way to drastically accelerate the learning learning curve and That religious goes into something. I'm sure we'll hit on. But it's the the weighted rope aspect and so when a lot of people. I started jumping rope or they try to learn how to jump rope. It's typically with the CDC ROPE. Something you'd you'd find out that. Nisar Department Store what most gyms Carey in trouble with that. Is that throat this to light? And so if you're struggling with coordination or tiny becomes really difficult to tiny jumps and that's where a lateral a lot of mistakes in triplets. Happened in where the frustration comes from. And so what we've done is we've introduced a range of weighted ropes in for example when we speak with our customers were just getting started. We often recommend a half pound. Roper Market Lean set and it's ideal getting started or because what it does is it slows down your rotation and that extra little bit of resistance makes it easy to feel the rope turning around your body and that helps with the timing the coordination so you know we have seen people who try jumping rope with plastic. Pbc ropes. I should say in the past go from struggling to string along fifty to one hundred jumps within five minutes so I think the that piece of it. The coordination is super important from both sides of it. You're already in athlete. Experienced Stephanie. Going TO HELP IMPROVE. foot speed. And if you've never jump rope before you feel like you're not at that level yet. In terms of coordination there are ways where the system kind helps you learn this particular skill and exercise very quickly. I think what's touchback on? Then is that you mentioned. There is some stigma. Wave jumping rope. We think because of it being portrayed in films and other forms of media crossovers and all sorts. It makes us being the we. The average person have tried it before. Call just dive in and do it. And I've always said to myself the arm too heavy footed or to not like my feet. I'm really bad at jumping rope so I just stopped myself from other trying even though I know. Be a helpful tool. So how are you trying to help? People get over the stigma to understand that it can be for everyone. And if they gave the Patrol I really understand what you mean by. Having a slight resistance failed to get more controlled. How you hoping people vs into that transition of like item do this. We try to tackle it a few different ways. And I'll tell you a quick story. I mean when we were at the Arnold Classic in Ohio a couple of years ago you know they have like two hundred thousand people walking by and we held a little sixty second challenge at our booth where it was basically a you know trying to do as many jumps as you can with a one pound and winner at the end you know. We gave away a couple of a couple of sets and it was really opening to us to see just how little people know about way. Ropes feel that you get and it's and it's you know when we see you know big guys come by and trying to do this challenge and the just getting absolutely winded within sixty seconds looks on their faces really kind of told everything and so for us. It's been a challenge to kind of share that experience through our marketing and through our storytelling and saint goes with you. Know getting started because of the stigma because of the challenges people may have faced in the past and what you may be seeing in the media the ways we try to approach it is really through education and so we try to share the experiences of other jumpers in our community who have kind of gone through that experience themselves we have a lot of tutorials and beginner oriented. Workouts are fitness at and so we help guide people through those where it really helps. You know how to get started. I feel with other jump ropes. You don't really get the content piece in that sometimes make makes it really difficult because you you get the rope in. You're not sure what to do with it. And then you know we I think the most interesting pieces just People don't know what to compare it to the weighted rope aspects. Because they've never tried anything like that and so we really try to make it as easy as possible to give cross rope a try so you know we we have a sixty day. Return policy rarely used. You know we we tell people hate. Get the ropes experience for yourself. See The difference. If you don't like it we'll take the we'll take it back and give a full refund in through those efforts. We've got a lot of people to give the system a try and once you try it. You instantly know the difference. He has certainly see it for yourself. Because when you feel that resistance heavy rope turning around your body at it's a game changer. As it was for me when I first tried
Bloomberg Daybreak: Europe
US And China discussed on Bloomberg Daybreak: Europe
"So much now let's get back to our top story and the US China trade will roiling mal que it's yesterday today was seeing a little bit of stabilization the U. S. stepping up the trade will pressure slapping a currency manipulator tack on China as the U. and a weekend yesterday that said the renminbi has stabilized after trying to fix the currency stronger than expected on shore this morning for more let's go live to Hong Kong Webley Backstreet Asia economics correspondent and the current is standing by end of great to have you with us and it looks like we've got some headlines coming out actually in the past few minutes from the P. B. O. C. saying China it doesn't manipulate its currency it's denying the U. S. accusation I'm saying it won't use FX as a tool to deal with the trade dispute should we feel reassured by what just come out from the P. B. O. C. that given how unexpected the move in the U. when was yesterday even though we caught necessarily say it was a deliberate devaluation that's right it was a deep appreciation rather devaluation and it needs a riposte response from the PBC I guess you would have expected in some ways but there is a feeling vast the market has been pushing down of wanting to push down Chinese around for some time anyway given that the economy has been slowing and it does come at a convenient time for China to realize some but it weakens given that the economy is facing yet more tires from the Chinese from the from the US side so there's no doubt that over the China does control its currency it clearly isn't a free flow but they've added to we can either at a and in a time that's convenient for them but also the very politically sense of timing that's what's triggered an only so much of a barrage of political criticism from Washington and and I mean currently it's a seven point zero six five eight the official you one of the moment to to the dollar but I'll be expecting that it will go lower is the is that the prospect of of back to the old it what what's the direction that you sense in this of the month I think the fundamentals a would suggest some more weakness Roger when you consider that John is economy is slowing so by all accounts the market will probably want to push it down a bit further and then of course if you consider that China is probably bracing for additional tariffs I think expectations for some for trade deal and I are probably somewhat diminished on all sides so all indications are that China certainly has reason to let the currency to weaken if it wants to and that's quite apart from and and expectativas and so to speak but I think it comes back to the key point of how far can a let it go without triggering broader instability yeah and the US naming labelling China and affects manipulate to and I mean that of course stepping up the trade war another level even if actually the penalties for that wouldn't necessarily be as high as what the US has already done to China in terms of tariffs what do we expect the response mechanism from China to beat the fact the PPO C. has come out today and said the accusations country to global consensus on forex at they continue a my floating exchange rate mechanism again saying they don't manipulate the UN is not a sign of any kind of white flag from China do we expect further escalation like for example selling down at U. S. treasury holdings well I think China has said they want to keep the currency stable and ultimately it's probably in their own interest to keep it somewhat stable in the near term at least because otherwise if they do start to aggressive weakening of the currency they will only give ammunition to critics who say they are deliberately long if we can help for exporters so there's a bit of a political games we played here thing China probably once we've seen that a they are broadly packing stable currency into the market is doing to work for them in terms of its weakness but going forward and beyond that there will come a point at which for sure if the domestic economy continues to slow I'm these additional terms are placed on goods coming out of China well China will need to make a decision about whether or not to use the currency as a lever to help things and you mention due to go for the option of selling treasuries as a way to have back at the U. S. that's something of a nuclear option because remember that would hurt need the US to some extent but it also means that are comparable to drive down the value of their own investments in US dollars to set something of a double edged sword and thanks
Bloomberg Daybreak: Europe
Nafta Talks Pick Up as Decision Time Nears for US, Canada
"Now the fates over deal to update the NAFTA agreement between the US and Canada could hinge on the same issue that almost killed the country's. First trade pact degeneration ago Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett has the details on that Trump administration, wants, to scrap those panels Canada restarted talks in Washington this week by trying to, preserve the, so-called chapter nineteen anti-dumping panels three Canadian, officials, familiar, with the talks say Canada restarted talks in Washington this week by trying to preserve the so-called chapter nineteen anti dumping panels in the. North American Free trade agreement they candidate cited its ongoing disagreement with the US over allegations at dumps lumber into America as a reason. To keep the panels dispute Panels are one. Of Canada's biggest sticking points left in talks to modernize the twenty four year old
Bloomberg Daybreak: Asia
US, President and Donald Trump discussed on Bloomberg Daybreak: Asia
"Australia's new prime minister Scott Morrison is unveiled what he calls the, stability cabinet he says it will focus, on the economy and immigration and safety but I a change in behavior it's a team that I brought together working by senior. Colleagues today to. Ensure that we have. The stability that is necessary and promote healing meanwhile. Foreign minister Julie Bishop, has quit says she'll return. To. The
Bloomberg Daybreak: Asia
Tesla sues Ontario over canceled electric vehicle rebate
"Briefly the, SEC is reportedly asking tesla directors what CEO Elon Musk told them ahead of, his tweet, last week the tweet was about. A potential, deal to take the company private the Wall Street Journal cites unidentified sources saying, the regulator, is investigating whether. Musk, intentionally misled investors Tesla meantime is suing the. Government of Ontario in Canada for cancelling electric vehicle
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China's consumer inflation picks up in June
"With brent crude at seventy eight dollars and sixty one cents higher by about two thirds of one percent this is a us government report is expected to show a decline in stockpiles for fourth week out to the past five yousef yeah let's cross over to singapore where wes goodman from the markets live team joins us wes chinese consumer prices for june came in at one point nine percent producer prices were slightly higher than expected at four point seven percent what these figures say about the outlook for the pbc right hi good morning everyone well you know especially the one point nine percent gain in consumer prices i think shows that inflation is in check and this will give the pboc room to ease policy to keep easing policy as the the us us tariffs threatened to to slow growth in china the pboc seems to be pursuing a policy of targeted easing for example by freeing up money for banks last week the socalled triple arcot and there was a central bank adviser today who said there's room to keep pumping money into the money market to keep adding liquidity which has the effect of bringing yields down so inflation in check that will allow the central bank to keep taking these steps what we're calling targeted easing steps which it has been doing to help the economy another story that we're looking at west is these continued gains that we're seeing in asian equity markets the topics index higher for a third consecutive day alongside the asia pacific index as i was saying earlier what's driving this advance and this advance in japan particularly right yeah you know for the past couple of days the all the action has been in china stocks but today it really focused on japan there seems to be some strength fair and that comes in tandem with a weakening in the yen again is approaching its lowest level since january and keep in mind not essential theme for all these asian countries is that a weaker currency helps them keep up demand for their exports so the yen is weakening that's helping japan stocks the topics still down more than five percent this year and so maybe some help for the currency heading into the second half will will help stocks recoup some of those losses there you have it right wes goodman thank you very much for.