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"ouija" Discussed on And That's Why We Drink
"Hello everybody, welcome welcome fun fact sides like all the fun facts we just relayed. You get bonus went today, which is that yesterday we didn't we J- aboard. The this is why we're so all of a sudden anti Christ because. It's like showing up with. Yeah we've been playing with the here's the problem we. Went to the messaging apartment with EVA some wine and we're hanging out and I had made a Ouija board which I think you mentioned on a previous episode? and. Because I couldn't find one anywhere that even came over and be like. Oh Eva. Let's play Ouija Board. That was me not I was finally outnumbered that was anybody else and then you because I've never done one before and I. Can on the talking Ouija board yeah, and then we played for awhile and we got a few people that came through. We also was a complete makeshift like our plan was like a cutout bottom of water bottle wine glass for a while. Then we engineering I needed to line glass. So then we needed to come up with a new Oh and then later on even there for this but I started I went to go fill my water bottle and I stood there for like a solid forty five seconds until I looked down and realized we got the bottom off that was pretty stupid anyway. We Update Sorry I'm eating Irish. Go. Very good sound wise anyway. Yeah. So we do. We'd aboard and with. Ten spirits apparently that came through apparently one followed me from Cincinnati even home will. Right. So one phone me from. Cincinnati, which are in love and then. We got a text saying, Hey, I have a story and I was like, Oh boy here we go. What do we do to poor eva we ruined her and yet so even share your story. Okay. I'm going to do it anyway. Okay. Excellent. I feel this way she knows anything she says will be we we should even can you bring your little in now?.
"ouija" Discussed on Walking the Shadowlands
"And every night we will see some of the man and it got to the point that I didn't even care anymore. I actually felt safe seeing spirit. One day we decided to Florida and I decided. Let me take my board with me. I couldn't I couldn't not take it one night. I was with my cousin and she never played the board. If seems as if my cousin had this bolt of energy of much like energy and her has that is soon as she moves. She put her hand on the plan. Chat Ulis was able to talk so much faster that we had. We had a hard time keeping up with what he was saying. And one day it was maybe twelve o'clock at night and it's me and my sister and my cousin she got a call while we're playing. She got a call and her boyfriend had fell down the stairs. And when her boyfriend? Those this assault weird. He fell down the stairs. He's in the hospital and I remember as we're playing the game. She asked the board. Was that you and he said yes. That was me and she said why would you do that? And he said because he hit you as she's a human that I didn't even know that I didn't even know. She was getting abused that he said he hits you and she was like why would you? Why would you push down the state? He's in the hospital and behind us. The door. My back was against the door. We're sitting on the floor on India style. My back is behind the door and he kicks the door. I Hear A and we all jolted when I was in that you say yes. That's me I'm upset where now I said. Why would you do that? I can't believe that he actually did the door. Nike. That's what it sounded like. It was very hard and because my back was against it I was so scared and I opened my door. There was nobody there. The Thud woke up my father. That Lewis said your father's coming. And he himself put the by. He swiped goodbye and no more than maybe thirty seconds. My Dad opened the store and I slayed the OUIJA board under my bed. From this point Raquel begin to have mixed feelings about who conversations with Lewis? She was skied end. She Continues Lewis can actually touch things. Now we went from not playing in the board. Now he's following us. He came with us the Florida. He knew what my house looks like. He came with US. Everywhere it was it was. It was really scary. Rachel realized he could manipulate physical objects but she was still obsessed with him and started skipping classes in hostile nearly every day and spent days talking with husband what she called Ouija Board Patties in her high she was the stage about eighteen years old. She was Tajalli obsessed and justified her actions by saying that it was really to prove to himself that this was real but at the same time the it was some fees and his manipulation of for cow and control began to shy she sees of how was in. Louis knows everything snows things. Only on that what. He'll be talking to us here but he can tell me what someone is doing in their house. Wars would be show like jealous. He wouldn't want anybody else to comfortable. He'd say no make I only I can come through only I can sleep with you is that it got to the point where he just that all the time and a lot of people like our boyfriends or people who did stuff to us in school who are bullies or anybody. Who did me you know? We're just route to me throughout the day. Lewis would say he would handle him. He would tell me if anybody did anything to you. I will hurt them and at the time. I thought that was so cool at the time. I thought wow I have a spirit that I mean not like. I can manipulate I can. I can ask him to do favors for me. This this person is willing to protect me. This person is willing to do things for me. This person talks to a normal person. He'll talk to me about people that I spoke for. Hey that person is not good for you. I don't like that person for you. This person is not good for you. I think active that I had put into my mind at this and it wasn't fun anymore because a lot of people who. I didn't want them to get hurt. You know I didn't want things to happen to these guys dating. If they hurt me you not bad things will happen. A lot of bad luck. What happened and I would ask Louis. Are you responsible for that and nonchalantly say yes and that's when I this is not fun anymore because I didn't you know he didn't. He didn't he didn't deserve that. You know there was some people. Just don't WANNA punish on the Sunday. Did ME WRONG BATTLING TO PUNISH EVERY ONE. Lewis. I don't need to do that while Venturelli I stopped playing the game. I stopped playing the OUIJA board. And I'm twenty seven now getting dangerous yet. Say nothing about hindle. Say nothing about him. 'cause we'll hear it don't say nothing bad about me you've got problems with. Please don't have no problem because you don't want to deal with yours. That's how it was rolling. It was very controlling. Definitely I see how how how so into it I was in. I didn't care about the information. Will Louis Anymore. It was more. I'm growing up. You know opened up my mind to the spiritual world and westbound candle and the things that can come from a Ouija board you know. I wish I was in control. I put the candles. I did the sage I could everything I did. I did everything I went online. And looked at the do's and don'ts I did everything while the research you can do on Google but it doesn't matter because it doesn't prepare you for who you're gonNA come in contact with when you actually do it and I thought the canned white handles was protecting me. I got saved. We're GONNA protect me. And maybe they do. Maybe they do protect you but I can put the intention that I was supposed to to Harlem to to protect. Didn't put that white unite around. I didn't do any of that. I just thought at the time you know is subscale white candles and I did it. But I didn't put that intent that meditation and pray and say you know this. Is You know. Say what I wanted. I didn't do that now. Grown and I'm like. Oh my God recounts still has mixed feelings about her relationship with Louis. Account of WHO RECOGNIZES THAT. She was being controlled and impact manipulated by him while policies to season.
"ouija" Discussed on Walking the Shadowlands
"Raining mizra cow. I'm from New York. My mother Khin You know can talks to spirit see spirits so this is where I got my interest from one day. I decided I'd like a Ouija Board. We went to Toys R. US at the time. I think I was about fifteen years old. I went to Toys R. US and I bought a glow in the Dark Ouija board I thought at the time was just going to be fun. It wasn't even going to work. You know mother took no. You gotta be careful with this. I don't want you playing with it. I'M GONNA buy it for you. Hopefully it doesn't work and they'll get you just you know. Get that that interest out of you just so you can do it and then after that. Hopefully nothing happens when I play the game. I try to play it at first by myself. It never works until one day I was in school. Couple years have passed. Actually the board never worked a couple of years that passengers in high school and I said I was with my friend and we decided to skip sports. They in my house and I sent a leaderboard. Let's play when we played board was actually our first hurry and they asked will make speaking to and it's spelled out. Lewis L. U. I S. I asked Lewis. You Know How old are you? He thirteen but then when he put thirteen he went. He put the planche at the middle of the board and then he went back down and put the word the number seven when asked us to seven seven mean he said it's been seven years seven years to pass. He said yes but in form in his form he said he was as a twenty year old. He looked like a twenty year old at the time. I'm like okay How did you find me like how are you here? He said he woke me up. I was lost. I was lost in you like I found you. I heard your voice asking. Is Anyone here? Is anyone here and where he said that he you know he heard my voice and I had welcome. I guess time has passed and I started talking to Louis Daily and I started to feel comfortable with him. Every time I went to the board in was always Lewis Educational Plan when I played when I pulled out the board. I didn't even have to ask. I've just take the board and say. Hey Luis how you doing? And we'll we'll talk and it became more of an addiction. Everything we I was talking some Louis until one day. Lewis told me that he was sad that his mother had stopped visiting his grave. He told me he was from the Dominican Republic. And he was. He died in a car crash. She was the passenger and his father was the driver but whose father was the one that stayed alive and he died. He told me that he was so sad that his mother was not visiting his grave. If I could call his mother and tell her to visit him and at the time I thought how am I going to call this woman and tell her that her that I'm speaking to her dead son and he's you know a upset that he that the mother has visited him in weeks and it was as if she will side as if she kind of gave up on him she she solves miserable? She didn't want to go to the grave anymore. I actually ended up calling her and the mother stage shut on the phone. She stayed quiet and whole up on me. I didn't want to call again because I I was the confirmation that I needed. I said what I said on the phone. I said Hi. Many MS whatever. It was the Spanish Spanish inviting legal. I spoke Son I spoke to your son and he's upset. I don't know this is the right person. He gave me your phone number. He gave me a phone number to another country. Bought a phone card called his mother and she stayed on the phone. She stayed quiet as if she had to soak everything in. Maybe like. I'm not sure she just stay quiet and it never bothered her again. Pass talk to Louis. And then one day I went to lighted and I had like a corn on my toe like from wearing tight shoes and I was barry to bolster the at rite aid. At a store I was so embarrassed by these corn bandages. For your tolls embarrassed by at the cashier I made somebody else by move and when I went I went home and I told the board and I saw say. Hey Luis are you doing? He said it was funny today. That you didn't WanNa. He wrote a sunny that you didn't WanNa buy the bandages and Breitbart. So what do you mean he said I was there? He said I laughed. He said I laughed when you didn't buy bandages and back and that's when I thought how is he. How is he not in the Board? Like how is he? Following now still. I kept that in pretended Salon That was funny though so funny but I kept him on. Murray like you know in in the board anymore. Lewis is not following me. I remember saying to tell my mother. I have to tell my mother analysis scary so I'm coming home from on coming home from work and I'm with my mother and I told my mother. Mommy I need to talk to you about something. And she said you're playing the Ouija board and you let out a spirit ditch and I looked in our said. How do you know she said there's been a man standing by the door of my apartment? I have an apartment she said. There's there's a man standing by the apartment door for the past week. He doesn't do anything he just stands there and I immediately started. You know confessing mom the let me tell you what's been going on like. I started telling her like everything that's been going on that. I haven't told her because she always told me she didn't want me to play it or because I'm like Ma. She understands she seeing in. This is not just me you know like when I play with my friends. They always thought I was the one clip moving plan chat or something you know but there must be a science behind it. That we're all just unconscious consciously moving but the my mom gave me the confirmation. She was like you know this has been sitting there so she brought me to the vote and actually in tears. Because I was so scared. I'm like wow I actually bought a spirit officer's real she tells me this is how how high because he's dark dark skin he's a team. He looks like a teenager. A young a young man and he's actually standing right next to you. She's like she the way that he sees you as a little sister. He standing by the door. He's telling me that he's standing by the door because he's protecting the house. He's more like securing the house He has to stand by the door to protect boss after all of this habit. She's telling me what he looks like. She's sending me. I told her story about what he told me she said yes. He's sending me the same story to actually gave me more details about what happened that night that the kid that Lewis at the time was thirteen when it happened. What happened when I would sleep my door. I slept in my living room. We only had a one bedroom. My mother had the little the the bedroom and read sleep me and my sister was even liberal and in the room there was a hall and down. The hall is where the front door is where.
"ouija" Discussed on Walking the Shadowlands
"Is in the Ouija Board Christie's are are seen important to give at least a very condensed history. What they are likely there are very few who have not heard often Ouija board or who do not know what they are. Thanks in large part to the TV movies notably the existence nation before amongst others. But for those who have not his physical description. Often Ouija board board is a flat board with the latest of the bitter right into semi-circles up of the numbers zero through nine Sipowicz In the uppermost corners. Goodbye at the bottom accompanied by a plan. Chit which is generally these days a t shaped device. Usually it has a small window. In the body the pinch it is used to maneuver about the board. The idea was that. Tomo people would sit around the board places fingertips on the planet policy. Question and watch is the plan. Chit moved from Lisa. Talita supposedly moved by a spirit spelling out the onces boots. Implants used to be out of solid wood NASA Kabul and plastic for the mice path. However when I was young and stupid kid we created token glasses which is simply latest of the alphabet and numbers zero to ten pieces of paper and placed in a circle on a flat surface. Gigli table talk Simple kitchen glass was used as the plan chip other than that. It functioned in exactly the same way as Norwegian boarded. So how did we come into popular use in eighteen? Forty eight sisters Margaret in Cape Fox. Who LIVED IN UPSTATE? New York claimed to have received messages from spirits. Who knocked on labels unanswered questions? This eventually reach the media has spread throughout the country and spiritualism was born millions across America and Tabu turned to spiritualism se answer for connecting with Loughlin had passed. We have to realize that this was an era when very few people lived passage of fifty years old due to the living conditions and standards house cakes feature in the era the average life span in. That era was listen. Fifty years old woman died giving booth children died from seizes mean died in wars during the American civil war speechless and gained millions of people who would disparate to connect with the Atlantic contour to war and had never returned. It was a time when people seem to be really and wanting the comfort of belief in a continued existence. Speechless communities in groups established worldwide and mediums of very large percentage of them who were fake and were meeting capitalizing on the current trend began to hold senses. Tabuena and other means of communication with the deed were air-based cumbersome and noisy and in order to be to communicate with left lanes had passed people who had to rely on Santa's lead by these dubious people mostly fake mediums simply at face money from disparate people. People who've agreed for their loved ones instantly wanted tonight it. They still existed. And we're okay. So walk for the communication. Did they use initially the table to table wrapping? This was a form of sounds where people sat around a table. That would place a hands on it and wait for it to tip choked or otherwise move and response to questions. Dispirit this very old pitch on this episodes page on the podcast website. Www dot working shetlands. Dot Com of a tabletop incision other forms of attempting communications tried. One of these was spirit writing or socket graphing to take it would be code automatic writing. This was done initially by holding the Pinzel in an upside down basket or Planche. It and the idea was that the spirit took control of your head android things automatically after while someone invented the talking. It's original Argentina's shredded industry. However in eighteen ninety one a person by the name of illogic James Bond submitted a painted for the foods official token booth cooling at a toy or game. A copy of it tainted can be seen on the wage side the tomb talking board. The ill she gave us. Patent is generally used these days as more of a generic term for any message board that has numbers leaders and a movable message indicator with Chit or not side. Down Glass also in this Christ is previously mentioned is could ask the grass. This moves put algae disliked it touched by one or more Pistons and will slide old pivot around the surface of the booth to spell out words of messages. The bleacher report got its name from the system. More of the boards into Heaven Peter's Hannam was supposedly affair strong medium and she asked the board what wish to be named it spelled out. Ouija and result when they asked what that meant. Supposedly the board responded with weeds. Good luck somewhat argues. It and Ouija board is just another definition device light divining rods table tipping automatic. Writing Exhibitor also Other boards that use pendulums fixed SPINETA ROLLING BOOTS? He's later Regarded as talking boards without the figures. Definitely same and these days you could also add to that list gushed. Fox's sees a great debate about whether the messages given on these boards indeed come from signature entities or are they solely a psychological physiological phenomena. One that is created by the USA aboard according to some scientific. Sosas two factors that come into play when using a Ouija board this a strong generally subconscious need for an answer to any specific question. The US ahead is a phenomenon called the Defeat so what is the idiom effete bookie pedia has to say about the idiot Defeat as an reflexive responses to pain the body sometimes reacts reflexively within Ideo might fate to ideas alone. Without the person consciously deciding to take the action the affects of automatic writing dowsing facilitated communication and we should booths have been attributed to the phenomena says he for the idiomatic. If eight sees people can move or move something without the conscious mind realizing it in the case of the reachable. Would if you really want the answer to a question to yeast and any other person was on the board with united they could push the Two years without anyone consciously applying any fourth Sydney. I did not disagree in the least that probably a large percentage. Cd OF TALKING ABOUT COMMUNICATION CAN BE. Put Down to the feet on this besides page on the podcast website. Www DOT wilkins shed install dot com the link to a youtube video. That explains this Effat share clearly whilst at Disney agree with most of what lesson? I do not it. All widget experiences can be explained. Why by this? He is we science and my personal experiences dot foods.
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"Moments ago president trump said the CDC is set to announce new steps to make it easier for some people who have been exposed to corona virus to return to work the move comes as the president says the economy will re open quote sooner than people think we should hang is at the White House tonight ouija snore president trump said the CDC is working on the finishing touches of new recommendations that will be the first step to re opening the country something he is eager to do but tonight the president also said we have to be on the down side of the slope of cases before that can happen this CDC's new guidelines are aimed at getting critical infrastructure workers back on the job we're getting much closer to getting our country back to the way it was even after potential exposure to covert nineteen people will be able to go back to work as long as they don't have any symptoms and continue to check their temperatures wear masks and practice social distancing before they were advised to self quarantine for fourteen days CBS news has learned the new recommendations apply to several groups including first responders food workers critical manufacturing and transportation employees the new recommendations are being drafted as members of the corona virus task force urged caution against relaxing rules for the general public you can start to see it making a difference but we have to do even more right now because that will predict where we are two or three weeks from now today president trump tweeted the country would open up sooner rather than later and our economy will boom perhaps like never before echoing what he has said in recent days we have to open our country up we have to get go we have to open our country yeah no country was designed for this were you close it Mr trump often talks about re opening the economy as if there's an on
"Welcome to kids miss and mystery. Sign your host kit crumbs all this week. We've been talking about and researching psychics clairvoyance paranormal things with crystal balls and Ouija boards. Next week we start Wednesday with interviews with a psychic and clairvoyant and I thought since clairvoyance talk to spirits it only appropriate that today I provide you with a real ghost story. Let me tell you finding a real ghost story. It can be as simple as going to the library or bookstore but the ghost story. I'll read today. Came to me from an individual with what I can only call real life experience as you listen. Keep in mind that I'm reading. Someone else's encounter with the ghost mildly contribution to the tail is traditional editing. I found necessary. Otherwise the words make up. The story are all authors who assured me are all true and because she was simply writing about her encounter. There will be no title to the story. Here we go ellen. Richmond rides about her encounter with the ghost as follows. The room was small behind attached to a store that sold all things. What got the curtains were pulled shut on the only two windows but only partially blocked out the light in the middle of the room was around table and six chairs one was more like thrown or the medium would sit. We were instructed to hold hands. There were no candles know. Incense the room was bare. Except for the table and chairs. We were five childhood friends on the verge of college. We'd lost one. Recently Billy had drowned. We'd pooled our money and sought out Madam Hester. She reminded me of my grandmother and more the face. A thousand lives with no attempt to hide wrinkle. Silver Hair tied back tight. She spoke with smokers voice. We were instructed to remain silent until contact was made at which time each of us could ask one question beginning with me and moving clockwise. She made it clear we were to ask a single simple question. Batum Hester unlike a TV medium didn't chant or roller head from left to right and when she made contact she didn't nod the only indication of contact when she spoke. And it was billy's voice. We all exchange looks of amazement. What is Your Question Ellen? When Billy's voice spoke my name I felt lightheaded but managed to ask. What was your favorite form of transportation? Matama Hester was sitting. Ramrod-straight is fixed on the center of the table. I think I was holding my breath until billy answered my question my bicycle. That was it a two word answer. Jesse was next and ask if billy like math. We all knew that he hated math. This time his answer was a single syllable. No it had been decided by Jesse and his girlfriend Sarah who sat on his right that the three of us should establish that we were really speaking with billy. Nothing in this obituary or at his funeral would have provided information about his love for his bicycle. In eight of math. Sarah had always flirted with bill and I knew who question would make or break. The seance did you kiss me under the old weeping willow tree no can the answer under the Nolan Street Bridge. I leaned forward nodded at Sarah. Whose eyes were like saucers. I heard Tom take a deep breath. Give us a physical sign. As evidenced in connection has truly been made you could have heard a pin drop as we waited for a response than the room was filled with the sound of that. Stupid Bell. Billy. Used to ring when he wrote his bike wanted to get someone's attention. Mickey gave my hand squeeze his would be the last question but it would break Madam. Hesters rule his question would be a single requestion. Definitely not simple. We all miss you. Billy and we'll be leaving the area and the end of summer and would like to see you one last time to say goodbye. I could hear my heartbeat. My Eyes Burn with the request. I'd know billy since I was three. We were best friends. All of us were on a picnic on the riverbank when he decided to go for a swim my last memory of his broad shoulders back and Bright Red Trunks. Z. Waded into the water. His answer came as a shock. Meet me at my grave. Batum Hester raised her gaze from the center of the table. I hope all your questions were answered. She said I would have thought that his answer meet me at my grave would have been followed with at midnight but it was broad daylight. Four o'clock we all piled into the SUV. That Jesse's parents had given him the graduation. The town's only cemetery was located just past industrial district at the south end of town Jesse parked at the front. We climbed out and walked as one pass the older section of the cemetery to the Green Tree Lawn. That made up the newest portion. Billy simple headstone was located next to. The fence separated the older section from the newest when I saw him sitting on his headstone. I look left and right I was alone and realize that I'd kept walking but everyone else had stopped when they sign. I took a couple more steps until I was arm's length away. At that moment I realized my face wet with tears I reached out. I'll miss you but never forget. He raised a hand in extended his index finger. There couldn't have been more than an inch between fingers when billy vanished. An I fainted. That was eight years ago but I remember billy on his gravestone like yesterday. I'm currently er nurse and often work at night shift alone. Of course with the doctor on call. I've never had any other paranormal experiences. But carry a picture of billy many nights. When I'm alone I call out his name. There's never a response but I never feel lonely.
"ouija" Discussed on KTRH
"Ouija boards are you facing a small board to get a toy store when we do villa will terrify you completely into the next world we did sell is a completely functional and outfitted ouija board with planchette that was about four hundred pounds it is about three thousand one sixty square feet whether or not a consumer spirits remains to be seen but weighs nine thousand pounds and tonight our guests are well basically retract the man who created it he is the vice president of the talking board society and also carronade dolmen she's been on the program before she's the director of the talking board Historical Society and a paranormal researcher so I guess the question Rick is if people and Karen mentioned this if people are like disappointed with the board gets taken down and probably move back to New Jersey would you be thinking about getting someone who would organize a tour and that maybe you can set this up elsewhere well they're going to be some events in the very near future they're already in the works but you know what I come from the US school thought you always leave more and more yeah I guess you do have one more but I tell you what just it looks like just to experience it would be amazing you know would be just to see something that remarkable and I was able to actually get a look somebody had taken an overhead a photo of it and what I find remarkable and maybe carry it you can comment on this the the ouija board actually gives us specific instructions on how to use it I think that's amazing when you think about that current yeah Rick have a great sense of humor he played what he called the board rules at the top of the cord and you know you and I spoke about this before quite I don't really believe in the board ruled out and I know Rick if I were tongue in cheek about it but these things you'll find on the internet and a lot of the fears people have about how where and why and what not to do would you support such as if they had never used the board a graveyard don't happen you're going to die don't ask with a very golden so it's it's more of a humor to the board but it's something that that's like a stigma that comes along with the board if you go on social media finding a so called rule I was always thought the rules were there to protect people I mean I was always told never asked the ouija board when you're gonna die because there's always a story that if you ask the ouija board where you're going to die a week later you'll be fine floating in the reversal number that when I was a kid but I was always taught you know you don't ask you when you're going to die I never use it alone never use it in a place where trauma satellite never take it to a place where a you know a group of people were slaughtered and then you do you go and do the weed you were trying to contact the murders I mean those are things I think are common sense would you say well yeah absolutely if anyone regardless so people like to have criteria or parameters around are you this tool which I support I mean if someone who isn't cool you probably want to have some kind of parameters around it if you've been using for a while you have to believe about it that you feel like you're going to be able to make contact as you mentioned earlier collide in your opening statement about this is really the board is nothing negative it negatively come through really check your own inner thoughts and feelings and that's what you're gonna trap to yourself or use the tool so you did good I promise did have some some rules I think for some people but for others believe are considered more just that humorous greeting funny but I you know I I don't think we need to try to control the repossession so much because then it would you really doing is controlling your own ability to do media mystic work if that's what you choose to do it here earlier well yeah and I I agree I I think there's some things I've used the board a couple times during seances accuse the board sometimes on ghost towns to try and you know contact we had a really strange ouija board session that happened at a place that was haunted one time and we even went to great lengths to you know we we went very very over the top with protection and all that and it didn't work we had something happen that went down that day it's because somebody who is in the session we were with was with had been drinking and I have a I have a rule that if you're going to come to a seance or ouija board session you cannot be high thank you that you cannot be drunk if you come in you do those two things you're liable to upset whatever's on the board and this is something we don't want and I just happened to be we did it there was this old theater we went into that was a bar we spent the night there we had a room that was set aside with a very quiet room we did a ouija board session somebody came in a woman who was drunk and apparently we didn't know this but she was pregnant and the ouija board said she was pregnant and to get her out of the room because I had some demon wants to attack her and that demon but I happen to be a demon called OB sued them we had no idea it will be soon was only there was the demon that eight children and she wanted to sell me she said well I'm gonna sue you because you a lot of demand to come to the right side did not I said and besides I think of this is to go to court and I said you were drinking did you and your damaging your child I think this would be a lot different story so it was a very very strange night for sure because what happened as many of the women that were at the seance actually doubled over in pain because they were feeling something in there got to know what it was and they were doubled over in pain when I write I I I panic I read anything I happen to be like this before and but something was in the room and like I said I said other people it would have come into the room anyway you don't need a board to have that come in this type of stuff you open yourself up to it certainly will you you'll you'll get visits and you'll have up all kinds of interesting things happen to you that's absolutely right every part of that story before the only thing I would I think there is a rule I haven't don't need that right I will never use the board then we've been drinking I won't drink either it or not I want to I want to have my vehicle that that'll myself as a channel be clear because they give me doing the work the board does nothing right now absolutely critical at first but after listening I I highly recommend you don't get high or get you know drunk whatever use before it happened you start because it'll kind the issue yeah that's the reason why parties you know you hear all these horror stories from teenagers say reply with a bore my friend up Zastrow get.
"ouija" Discussed on True Mysteries of the Pacific Northwest
"Welcome to kiss Miss Mysteries. I'm your host Ken Crom. I've been investigating the paranormal world and metaphysical world for the past couple of weeks yesterday. I reviewed rain. Clervoy end and me a psychic and owner of Psychic Boutique here in Ashland Oregon and I asked him a question about a Ouija board. Got a really interesting answer so I thought it would only be appropriate to store in today's podcast about of Ouija board in the small seaside town of Dungeon a spay. The bodies of seventy five year old Eric Warden to seventy two year old life billboard were found on the beach without a mark on either body their clothes were so would sea water. An autopsy reported indicated. That water was found in their lungs. The bodies were discovered by a jogger whose tracks were the only ones found on the beach when the police arrived locals testified that the couple were often seen walking the beach. At twilight. The couple's adult son Clayton Ward. Came up from California but after three weeks of intense investigation no suspects were revealed and Clayton had to get back to his job as technology specialist for the Silicon valley giant apple but his parting comment to the Dungeness Bay. Police was when he returned he'd be able to identify the murder of his parents in eighteen. Ninety one a patent was granted to Elisha bond for the OUIJA board but one of the first mentions of the method used with the Ouija board is found in Asia around eleven hundred eighty in historical documents from that era but the design we know today was based on the talking boards of Ohio produced by Charles Kenner following the American civil war. Mediums did significant business in presumably allowing survivors to contact lost relatives. But talking board would be created named in Baltimore Maryland in eighteen ninety but the use of talking bores was so common in eighteen. Eighty six that. The News reported the phenomena as taking over the spiritualist camps in Ohio. Six months after his first visit to Dungeness Bay Clayton more return with a list of clues. He assured police that if followed would lead them to the murder of his. Paris seven days later after following the various clues. Police brought in Steve Hawks. The grounds keeper employed by the wards who under intense interrogation confessed to the drowning of the couple. He claimed that Eric had kept a large amount of cash in a safe that he planned on taking it. He was unable to explain how he was going to get into the safe. However when asked by the police where he got the clues Clayton Ward replied that he belong to a small group that used the Ouija board to solve crimes and when his father was contacted. His father's spirit told him. Steve had knocked him unconscious and then dragged them into the waves thinking they would be washed to sea where they would drown but he was on a word that it was low tide and they'd be washed up on the beach with the changing tide. Further Toll Clayton that. If the police went to Steve's house they would find the bloody tire. Iron used to knock them unconscious. Clayton returned to California when the police attempted to contact him with further questions about the clues. They found his address. Non-existent phone number disconnected and no record of employment at the Apple Corporation. The investigator that was brought in on the case discovered that Eric Milroy Ward owned a Ouija board and from a journalist kept learned that they were often the host of a spirit called. Zuzu Richie Board users will tell you that Zuzu is that demon spirit of the Ouija board and that sometimes she becomes protective of those of hold the door open through the board that allows him to enter this world. Where the wards holding the door open for a demon spirit that manifested into the image of protective son that never existed and when they were murdered by their grounds keeper was the door that allowed to pass back and between this world his shot. In which world is he trapped? The OUIJA board solution was produced here at night. All sound studio brought to you by the metaphysical library and I'll creek cabin and writers getaway at Al Creek Cabin Dot Com. Check it out and week from yesterday. This coming up Wednesday. Next week I will be interviewing international nationally recognized medium Sharon and thanks for listening..
The Origins of the Ouija Board
"I've been investigating the paranormal world and metaphysical world for the past couple of weeks yesterday. I reviewed rain. Clervoy end and me a psychic and owner of Psychic Boutique here in Ashland Oregon and I asked him a question about a Ouija board. Got a really interesting answer so I thought it would only be appropriate to store in today's podcast about of Ouija board in the small seaside town of Dungeon a spay. The bodies of seventy five year old Eric Warden to seventy two year old life billboard were found on the beach without a mark on either body their clothes were so would sea water. An autopsy reported indicated. That water was found in their lungs. The bodies were discovered by a jogger whose tracks were the only ones found on the beach when the police arrived locals testified that the couple were often seen walking the beach. At twilight. The couple's adult son Clayton Ward. Came up from California but after three weeks of intense investigation no suspects were revealed and Clayton had to get back to his job as technology specialist for the Silicon valley giant apple but his parting comment to the Dungeness Bay. Police was when he returned he'd be able to identify the murder of his parents in eighteen. Ninety one a patent was granted to Elisha bond for the OUIJA board but one of the first mentions of the method used with the Ouija board is found in Asia around eleven hundred eighty in historical documents from that era but the design we know today was based on the talking boards of Ohio produced by Charles Kenner following the American civil war. Mediums did significant business in presumably allowing survivors to contact lost relatives. But talking board would be created named in Baltimore Maryland in eighteen ninety but the use of talking bores was so common in eighteen. Eighty six that. The News reported the phenomena as taking over the spiritualist camps in Ohio. Six months after his first visit to Dungeness Bay Clayton more return with a list of clues. He assured police that if followed would lead them to the murder of his. Paris seven days later after following the various clues. Police brought in Steve Hawks. The grounds keeper employed by the wards who under intense interrogation confessed to the drowning of the couple. He claimed that Eric had kept a large amount of cash in a safe that he planned on taking it. He was unable to explain how he was going to get into the safe. However when asked by the police where he got the clues Clayton Ward replied that he belong to a small group that used the Ouija board to solve crimes and when his father was contacted. His father's spirit told him. Steve had knocked him unconscious and then dragged them into the waves thinking they would be washed to sea where they would drown but he was on a word that it was low tide and they'd be washed up on the beach with the changing tide. Further Toll Clayton that. If the police went to Steve's house they would find the bloody tire. Iron used to knock them unconscious. Clayton returned to California when the police attempted to contact him with further questions about the clues. They found his address. Non-existent phone number disconnected and no record of employment at the Apple Corporation. The investigator that was brought in on the case discovered that Eric Milroy Ward owned a Ouija board and from a journalist kept learned that they were often the host of a spirit called. Zuzu Richie Board users will tell you that Zuzu is that demon spirit of the Ouija board and that sometimes she becomes protective of those of hold the door open through the board that allows him to enter this world. Where the wards holding the door open for a demon spirit that manifested into the image of protective son that never existed and when they were murdered by their grounds keeper was the door that allowed to pass back and between this world his shot. In which world is he
A True Ghost Story
"Welcome to kids miss and mystery. Sign your host Kit crump. We've been talking about and researching psychics clairvoyance paranormal things with crystal balls and Ouija boards. Next week we start Wednesday with interviews with a psychic and clairvoyant and I thought since clairvoyance talk to spirits it only appropriate that today I provide you with a real ghost story. Let me tell you finding a real ghost story. It can be as simple as going to the library or bookstore but the ghost story. I'll read today. Came to me from an individual with what I can only call real life experience as you listen. Keep in mind that I'm reading. Someone else's encounter with the ghost mildly contribution to the tail is traditional editing. I found necessary. Otherwise the words make up. The story are all authors who assured me are all true and because she was simply writing about her encounter. There will be no title to the story. Here we go ellen. Richmond rides about her encounter with the ghost as follows. The room was small behind attached to a store that sold all things. What got the curtains were pulled shut on the only two windows but only partially blocked out the light in the middle of the room was around table and six chairs one was more like thrown or the medium would sit. We were instructed to hold hands. There were no candles know. Incense the room was bare. Except for the table and chairs. We were five childhood friends on the verge of college. We'd lost one. Recently Billy had drowned. We'd pooled our money and sought out Madam Hester. She reminded me of my grandmother and more the face. A thousand lives with no attempt to hide wrinkle. Silver Hair tied back tight. She spoke with smokers voice. We were instructed to remain silent until contact was made at which time each of us could ask one question beginning with me and moving clockwise. She made it clear we were to ask a single simple question. Batum Hester unlike a TV medium didn't chant or roller head from left to right and when she made contact she didn't nod the only indication of contact when she spoke. And it was billy's voice. We all exchange looks of amazement. What is Your Question Ellen? When Billy's voice spoke my name I felt lightheaded but managed to ask. What was your favorite form of transportation? Matama Hester was sitting. Ramrod-straight is fixed on the center of the table. I think I was holding my breath until billy answered my question my bicycle. That was it a two word answer. Jesse was next and ask if billy like math. We all knew that he hated math. This time his answer was a single syllable. No it had been decided by Jesse and his girlfriend Sarah who sat on his right that the three of us should establish that we were really speaking with billy. Nothing in this obituary or at his funeral would have provided information about his love for his bicycle. In eight of math. Sarah had always flirted with bill and I knew who question would make or break. The seance did you kiss me under the old weeping willow tree no can the answer under the Nolan Street Bridge. I leaned forward nodded at Sarah. Whose eyes were like saucers. I heard Tom take a deep breath. Give us a physical sign. As evidenced in connection has truly been made you could have heard a pin drop as we waited for a response than the room was filled with the sound of that. Stupid Bell. Billy. Used to ring when he wrote his bike wanted to get someone's attention. Mickey gave my hand squeeze his would be the last question but it would break Madam. Hesters rule his question would be a single requestion. Definitely not simple. We all miss you. Billy and we'll be leaving the area and the end of summer and would like to see you one last time to say goodbye. I could hear my heartbeat. My Eyes Burn with the request. I'd know billy since I was three. We were best friends. All of us were on a picnic on the riverbank when he decided to go for a swim my last memory of his broad shoulders back and Bright Red Trunks. Z. Waded into the water. His answer came as a shock. Meet me at my grave. Batum Hester raised her gaze from the center of the table. I hope all your questions were answered. She said I would have thought that his answer meet me at my grave would have been followed with at midnight but it was broad daylight. Four o'clock we all piled into the SUV. That Jesse's parents had given him the graduation. The town's only cemetery was located just past industrial district at the south end of town Jesse parked at the front. We climbed out and walked as one pass the older section of the cemetery to the Green Tree Lawn. That made up the newest portion. Billy simple headstone was located next to. The fence separated the older section from the newest when I saw him sitting on his headstone. I look left and right I was alone and realize that I'd kept walking but everyone else had stopped when they sign. I took a couple more steps until I was arm's length away. At that moment I realized my face wet with tears I reached out. I'll miss you but never forget. He raised a hand in extended his index finger. There couldn't have been more than an inch between fingers when billy vanished. An I fainted. That was eight years ago but I remember billy on his gravestone like yesterday. I'm currently er nurse and often work at night shift alone. Of course with the doctor on call. I've never had any other paranormal experiences. But carry a picture of billy many nights. When I'm alone I call out his name. There's never a response but I never feel lonely.
"ouija" Discussed on Indian Noir
"Bunder rights dealing. You know when I was a child I used to visit my cousins who lived in the neighboring city. Not for school holidays. The two girls loved scaring me go stories and they always put the Ouija board when I was there for my holidays. Now here's the thing. The girl started moving the planet as soon as they started the Ouija session claiming that they were able to easily connect with spits. The ghosts would apparently spell out names of dead people or people who are going to die next in our family or the names of people who would would be haunted by a nightmare that very night. These things kept me awake and fearful of shadows at night. I would ask my mother to come with me to the outdoor toilet in the house for courage. Those were long nights demon. You're the things little girls. Imagination can cook up is terrifying nine. When I reported this to my father. He told me that new spirits and that the goes would moving the tiny heart shaped piece of board on volleyball's the by themselves. I was on my ninth standard summer break when I decided that I should show some of the bravery. My father had instilled in me and conquer my fear of the spirits and the OUIJA board. This time when my cousins pulled out the board I said to them. You keep your fingers off put. I will operate the planet. The girls reluctantly agreed. I sat down with my finger on the wooden device. While the girls chanted the usual bullshit mantras mantras to invoke the spirits for added effect. They made sure we were surrounded by burning candles ten minutes and nothing happened. I was thinking this was all an elaborate rows. I was ashamed that I had fallen for their tricks for years. And just as I had expressed regret the planet moved. It was horrifying watching the thing. Move on its own volition under my finger finger questions to the spirit from the girls revealed the following bits of information. The ghost was a woman. She had drowned at sea. See she refused to answer other questions and went silent for a while but just as we read about to give up. The planet moved aggressively and spell dealt beach road and then a bulb in the room exploded. We ran out screaming. And if I remember correctly I had a fever for five five days straight. It ruined my vacation. I think my aunt born the Ouija board and their backyard. I forgot about the incident even after a while and I used to scoff at people mentioning similar experiences. I was certain as I aged. That what happened was a form of mass hysteria afford memory even decades later as a married woman. I came face to face with that entity my husband and I were lords at resort in North Carolina to celebrate our fifth anniversary. We had just finished dinner. I stepped out of a beautiful cabin. Destroy out to our private beach. Do enjoy the sight of the moon reflected on the water. I would have been there four. Maybe five minutes studying the coastline admiring the night sky and playing with my hair. When I saw a figure walk out of the water heading. INTUIT's me at first. I thought it was a fellow guest who had come back from a night swim but the finger post all I could see you was. It's silhouette it coughed and spluttered. Water and quoque doubt the following words beach road. It raised its right arm in a jerking motion and pointed to the left of me. H H route. I screened and I ran to. It's my cabin. My husband and some of the other guests emerged from the rooms to see me. Hysterical is terrible and sobbing the resort stuff. Send their security got to inspect the surroundings but there was no one there not a sign of the thing and they wanted me to go to beach road. Needless to say I never bothered visiting beach road or trying to find out what happened to this woman. I'm afraid if I do there will be no end to the Tara that would follow me back home from Beach Road.
New whistleblower could blow up Trump's main argument
"For now there's a second whistleblower with information about president trump's phone call to Ukraine's president CBS's ouija Jiang says it's an important new wrinkle that will play into the house impeachment inquiry the new whistleblower could blow up president trump's main argument against the original whistleblower weso flower never so so the conversation he got his information I guess second or third day but the latest person calling out the president apparently has first hand knowledge of the July twenty fifth phone call and while he continues to publicly described his conversation with Lewinsky as perfect CBS news has learned in private president trump is playing the blame game telling Republican lawmakers he only call because energy secretary Rick Perry asked him to a White House statement dismisses the second whistle blower saying the president did nothing wrong CBS is Nancy court is says some Republicans are now breaking with others in the GOP I hope this will be
More than 300 formal officials call Ukraine scandal a "national security concern"
"More than three hundred former officials from the Pentagon state department and intelligence committee said in a joint statement today the trump Ukraine scandal is quite a profound national security concern and inviting foreign interference would constitute an unconscionable abuse of power ouija Jiang is at the White House tonight with the administration's new explanations for how that controversial phone call was handled. a senior administration official tells CBS news National Security Council lawyers directed that the classified document be handled appropriately and confirmed a transcript of the July twenty fifth call between president trump and Ukraine's president balata Mirza Lansky was filed in a separate highly classified system counselor to the president kellyanne Conway tried to explain why his
More than 300 formal officials call Ukraine scandal a "national security concern"
"More than three hundred former officials from the Pentagon state department and intelligence community said in a joint statement today the trump Ukraine scandal is quite a profound national security concern and inviting foreign interference would constitute an unconscionable abuse of power ouija Jiang is at the White House tonight with the administration's new explanations for how that controversial phone call was handled. a senior administration official tells CBS news National Security Council lawyers directed that the classified document be handled appropriately and confirmed a transcript of the July twenty fifth call between president trump and Ukraine's president balata Mears a Lansky was filed in a separate highly classified
Acting DNI refuses to turn over whistleblower complaint
"The Washington Post is reporting a phone conversation and a promise made by president trump to an unspecified foreign leader was so alarming a whistle blower filed a report CBS's ouija Jiang is at the White House house intelligence committee chairman Adam Schiff has issued a subpoena to obtain the whistleblowers complained but the acting director of national intelligence Joseph McGuire is refusing to hand over that report for now McGregor says he determined the allegations did not merit urgent
"ouija" Discussed on MonsterTalk
"I guess the thing that bugs me. The surprises me. Is that there there haven't or it doesn't seem like there's been that many modifications to the board yet you know all the rest of the technology for communication has gotten progressively more and more complicated and you know he's talking about some of the evolutionary changes of the device itself in in what ways variance of you've been out there to sort of help get better vacation. There are if i have a thousand talking boards. There's that many more out there. They haven't even seen in through the years even in the beginning and again there were words like good even good night and that's the victorians kind of being polite even to spirits you would start saying good evening and when you were done you would say good night well. They took that off and it just became goodbye because that's what we do today so but there are many boards zero board that are all words like one hundred words all over it to make shortcuts but you have what you're brought. Up is an interesting point. There had been hundreds. If not thousands of variance audience of the board they never last the one that lasts is very archetypal. You've got the two arcs and the line got the letters in an arc and then you have the numbers and then you have yes no good by the simplicity of the ouija board is is absolute answer answer to your question. Why did it survive. It's simple. You don't have to put a lot between you and what you believe. You're talking to so <hes> you know jane. Roberts believes she was talking to a <hes> through south of consciousness and the simplicity is what opens that door. All of the other stuff to to the ouija board is just crap. It's just more stuff between you and where you're trying to go and there's there's a lot of paranormal people who believe that you are. Actually you know like when you're trying to make contact that the reason we jeep work so well is because every spirit would understand how to use is it. How does a spirit know how to manipulate a magnetic field again. If you believe one can then you believe one knows how to do it because it does but i would ask you. How did you know that it does. We don't even know we're talking to spirits so people always come back to well we do boards words have been around since eighteen eighty six. Let's go back to the eighteen seventies. If you're talking to a ghost from that time it would know how to use it and if it didn't it's pretty simple you touch it. We want you to move it. Well not so simple when you get into the other devices so there has been this huge evolution but all those branches die because again it just makes it more complicated interesting. I could imagine no very easily having having like a even exist but having like a an ipad version of this where you could like record your questions and in kind of record the session so you could actually get some data out of it of how efficacious it was for answering your questions whether right or wrong it'd be interesting yeah. Absolutely there's been lots of of plans. Other people have modernized hasbro who makes the ouija board today the artworks the only thing that's changed it. The keyboard looks and acts very similar talented in the beginning however <hes> the whole that is in the plan chet was added much later. <hes> i'm from the board's existence usually just pointed out the device. It was actually the reason why they put a hole in the plane. Chet was it allowed william fold who made the ouija board to get another design design pattern on the board and yet in the movies. I worked in starting in two thousand fourteen the official ouija movies the eye to the other side was born that that did not exist until that movie. I know and i worked on at night. No one ever held out the plan chet and look through but i'll tell you something the day after that movie came out every paranormal conference i go to whether using ouija boards start looking through soc- it doesn't matter that it never existed before now..
"ouija" Discussed on MonsterTalk
"Decide on the other side <hes> ednid- have special gifts or abilities whereas if you use a ouija people that again if you believe in that's that's your way of having direct communication with nailed it. You nailed it. That is how all spir communication devices have come up. There are people who claim to be mediums psychics that believe that they might. I guess will stick with medium a medium who can talk to the other side. They have a gift. Well guess what just like everything else. I don't have that gift so i don't even i'm like the worst day ever because i don't dress nice. I don't like have great fashion incense. I don't know no. It's totally true. I have a husband who's great for that but i don't have those gifts. It's like <hes>. I don't know i'm not really good at basketball. Though i'm tall but you know if i practice i can get better but there are people who were born with a nate talents that the more they practice the better they get in the more amazing they get so like. You said there were people who claim to be mediums. Who had this gift or so they were saying. I'm not even gonna get into like who's faking it. Who's not there were people who believed they had this gift well for the average user. They didn't habit so they used to go and pay money. Spend money. Go travel someplace. Have someone else be the person who would talk to the spirits for them with the wiki board again just like you said along with every other spirit communication suddenly for a dollar a dollar fifty. You could do this as many times as you wanted in the privacy of your own home. He didn't have to involve a stranger right. Suddenly this device gave you the gift and what you hit upon was exactly how the early paranormal of the spirits will turn their backs ax on board because the spiritualists were using these boards but when we came out it literally through tons of people out of work doc. Why would you pay someone else to do something. You could do yourself especially when you're having fun so suddenly a device that was in their bag of tricks when they would go on investigations instigations and they would try to see what was out there. Suddenly it was a dirty word and the very first people to come out against the ouija board in eighteen ninety for mediums and they said things like don't use the ouija board. It's dangerous. You're dealing with unseen forces h- you need someone like me someone who is experienced in this world to guide you through that little seed though based on totally monetary totally punched him in the pocket book. That was the beginning of decisions. That was the beginning of e._u. Aren't like you don't have what it takes to us the board and not get into trouble you. You need to go through someone like me. People still believe that today and guess what if you believe it it's true what makes the ouija boards so so unique so different than any other spir communication devices. We give it power. We give it power. We don't give to any other spirit communication device because we believe these decisions always say goodbye never play alone. Don't plan a graveyard burn. It buried is is a million of these things out there because we believe that the ouija board itself has power whereas we look at k. Two meters navy pier quarters anything else we use as just like telephone you look at the report is having something more in other words when something goes wrong after ouija board accession. It's get the ouija board at my house. I gotta get rid of it. That will stop this. You've spent a lot of money a lot of people who spent lots of money on gadgets..
"ouija" Discussed on MonsterTalk
"And so that was really cool but as i talked to <unk> they everything every subject was okay. When we got to ichi boards there was across the board across the board. There was immediate fear. They had no idea what they're afraid of. It didn't matter they even know why they were afraid. Some of them couldn't say i was told when i was little or that. I have religious upbringing or whatever it just culturally really no and so that was a lot of fun because it was like oh wait a minute so if you don't have any real like you don't know why you feel this way than we can probably try to change this and have some fun and you mentioned ideo motor response end. That's a fascinating thing because ideo motor response was was the answer to early spiritualism so faraday and a couple of other of his associates benjamin carpenter and another one of his friends they. I started noticing that spiritual is on the rise by the early eighteen fifties. I mean just a couple years after it hits an american blows back across the pond in there like doc. What are these people doing. It's clearly coming from you so faraday actually develops these really interesting on really intricate experiments because people are using at this time table tipping in table turn and so he conducted experiments and all he proves is that there are no external forces that are making the table move. It's coming from you now. He does not answer. The question is do the spirits spirits. Come through you causing you to do it. He didn't believe in that as a potential possibility so for him. His experiments answered the question and benjamin carpenter comes up with the term. If your motor response which is the marrying of the small movements in your body with your subconscious in the we g board if we talk about the ouija board because we want the board to work and because we ask it it opens a door to our subconscious those small movements in our hands jerky little movements says <unk> movements. It looks like your hands shaking. They start to become fluid and you're answering the questions. Only you don't know no it. You're not consciously trying to move the plan chat. It's your subconscious. That's what scientists say and then there's psychics who believe that happens when you he played the ouija board. Is there some type of telepathy that you're starting to read each other's minds. That's the door that's been open and then of course there are people who believe that you can part the veil bill and at the door that's opened is between this world and the next and what's the answer this debates been going on since again the beginning of spiritualism spiritualism so we don't know what happens when we die we have beliefs you know we have religion and we have our experiences but there is no solid proof right now as to what happens and that's why for nine hundred ninety five you can get an unlimited calling plan to the other side if you believe no roaming no overages is just go buy a witchy board because what if it does work. That's what this is. This is what all of our conversations are really about. It's not just the ouija board work. It's can you talk to the debt. That's the real question and because the ouija board has been around for so long. We've seen you talked about. <hes> you like technology. Will these gadgets come and go but the wiki board. It's got serious staying power when it comes into to spirit communication devices every generation rediscovers the ouija board in today. It's a right of passage at sleepovers college parties parties and horror movies. It is the way every horror movie that ever has a spirit or demon. It's so visual aw if it's so powerful because unlike so many of the devices that are around today you're part of it you complete. The circuit wants turtle..
"ouija" Discussed on MonsterTalk
"Then gets possessed by a demon changes a lot. You know like i said it's been moving in that direction but that's kind of like the straw that breaks the camel's back so in america full talk about they start start to look at the board that way and kids all over america in all over the world suddenly become re interested in the ouija board because why they all wanna see their friends head spin around and spit up split pea soup and so he goes through yet another boom this <hes> this idea idea about the transfer information from from fictional accounts <hes> back to what you might call a experiential theory intial accounts right that that's a that's come up on our show a lot because we <hes> over. We'd do the show for about a decade. We've really started to see a lot of patterns around how <hes> media is both influenced by and influences all of these sort of paranormal or fringe or weird topics so <hes> i find that resonates quite a bit and i i. I'm curious though about out you were talking about the way the board used in asia and i i don't think i quite understood that what they do is let let's talk about in vietnam and k cow now that is seen as something very serious like in a lot of cultures every culture that ever existed on the earth has believed in some form of deity eighty even if it's as simple as just the sun right that's or spirits is a spirit world once we could wrap our brains around someone dies and goes away though civilizations grew up trying to talk to them in fact a lot of civilizations africa for instance really important to talk to your the ancestors to show reverence your ancestors to bring gifts to your ancestors cow is part of that and so in asia particularly you're talking to family members who do not go and say does bobby like me. That would be seen as like really really awful and you don't ask to talk to other spirits..
"ouija" Discussed on MonsterTalk
"Is it a game. That's this whole debate will try to untangle it real quickly by just this. The funeral parlor was born out of your parlor. They took that name so when the funeral parlour left your house so did the parlor it was the room everything happened in in fact we became so uncomfortable with that name potentially subconsciously. We've renamed the room so so you tell me in your house what room today would be the parore. Americans would say looking room i would i allow andrew instead into the state. I still say lounger. They'll look dagobert. In america we say living room yeah because to death out of the house such as this happens death it gets further away. It's just just think again. Look like will pull back from talking boards second. It just puts us in the right frame of mind to talk about this just think today we dire hair. We don't wanna look old. We have plastic surgery. We eat better. We live longer. We don't allow children to go to funerals because we say things like lake. Let them be a child as long as they can. Well in the eighteen hundreds. Guess what when you were twelve you were working. There was no childhood two totally different than it was today and they were not shielded from death because it was likely to happen to them and they saw it happen to their brothers and sisters in and if they were lucky enough to live life expense expectancy certainly wasn't what it is today so as we've every year as we live longer longer as we conquer disease we get less comfortable with death because it's not in our face anymore that makes things scary and and that makes hollywood make the best movies ever and i've been really lucky to work on a lot of t._v. Shows movies and so if people blame mm-hmm hollywood for making the board look evil. I'm part of the problem. I i do but you you don't if you if you start to look at movies does art imitate life or dislike imitate art people started to believe things about the ouija she board that had nothing to do with most of its life like rules of the board. You know always say goodbye. Never using a graveyard never use alone that had nothing to do with its life most of the decisions they don't pop up until nineteen seventy three when a little movie that you've probably we heard of it called the exorcist now in this movie. That's supposedly based on a true story right. This little girl role plays the ouija board alone real real short segment in the movie but afterwards she gets possessed by a demon and that really tips the scales ells on <unk> it had been being depicted as more and more dark starts off being really fun in silent movies. It's date thing it's hilarious. It spells out saying you said people don't want other people to know it. Helps solves mysteries and by the sixty s will start to seek it a little darker and as we get into the early seventies. He's that hint of a little girl using the ouija board by herself..
"ouija" Discussed on MonsterTalk
"Hands. You'll be an expert in no time for the failed. When's the best time to play. We always that tickled grows we and unlike anything we've ever seen before giants mary largeness twenty four miles long bottomless lake highlands creature known as the loch ness monster morris turtle welcome to monster talk the science show about monsters. I'm blake smith and i'm karen stole sner. Thanks to everyone who came out to my panels dragon this weekend and especially thanks to nathan andrew who gifted the show was very cool new microphones which worked with my portable zumra quarter. I'm looking forward to doing more recordings events going forward and hopefully these will give us your talk the ability to capture multiple speakers in the same room with a more equalized audio level. I didn't even know daisy. Chain microphones existed so i'm excited to have this in our recording arsenal that audio you heard the introduction was a commercial for the film ouija word origin of evil a sequel to the twenty fourteen game changing film ouija our guests for this episode is robert merge an expert on the subject of ouija talking boards he was also a consultant for the movie ouija it sequels and many other movies and tv shows that have touched on the subject. He's been on coast to coast a._m. He's collaborated with toy companies. He's worked with museums and has got a museum of his own of talking boards in his home displaying many samples from his collection. We've got a video of that which are linked to in the show notes the first of what we hope to be a lot more video content from monster talk. This is episode one hundred ninety nine our next next regular episodes will be two hundred. I tried to make our two hundredth coincide with our tenth. Anniversary circumstances didn't allow for that delightful symmetry to come to pass. I'm going going to try and get it. Patriots bonus episode out into the regular fee before that if i can because i thought that was a fun interview that was a chat with writer and game designer kenneth hite who i got to meet at dragon khan and we discussed on that episode h._p. Lovecraft in gaming. I've got a rough cut of it up on patriot on right now but i'm gonna replace that audio with something a little bit tighter and i'm going to add some cool high resolution art from kenyon martin. He's produced a very nice paining of chicago's playing casula wars which all include as a high-rise download but let's get to the talking boards since the film the xs came out in nineteen seventy-three ouija boards have been synonymous with evil and possession. They have a long and fascinating history that goes back into the nineteenth century and the rise of spiritualism. We've talked about spiritualism many times on the show and it's huge impact on our culture culture. I'd encourage you to check out our scattered history of magic series which covers that history in more depth is developing the new muster talk website. I plan to give some grouping being around the show notes that you can quickly find episodes about specific topics at dragon con..
Trump campaign denies internal polling data showing defeat by Biden
"Update. Trump supporters are already lining up outside Orlando's Amway arena for his official campaign kickoff rally tomorrow night, but leaked internal polling shows him trailing democrat, Joe Biden in key states. His response in ABC news interview. There's no way he beats me in Texas. But even your own polls show your behind right now. They know about it was enough for his campaign to fire. Several pollsters, CBS's ouija Jiang says Biden's early numbers, look, good news. CBS news battleground tracker shows, fifty five percent of likely democratic voters are considering supporting Biden with Elizabeth Warren Kamla Harris and Bernie Sanders on his heels vase at elections director, Anthony Salvato says it's all about who can win next year in large. They think that Joe Biden does have a very good chance. The other candidates when voters try to game out those chances place the more at a maybe they can win than definite we went. That's one of the big things that's
Mexico, President Trump And United States discussed on KNX Weekend News and Traffic
"Had already promised most of what it's agreed to in a new deal with the United States aimed at slowing the flow of migrants to the US the paper says, discussions had been going on for months, but President Trump says he's confident Mexico will now deliver. So he suspending plans to impose tariffs on Mexican goods, CBS news, correspondent ouija Jiang, Mexico will deploy its national guards throughout the country focusing on its southern border, where six thousand troops will be placed officials will also crack down on criminal smugglers and expand the remain in Mexico, policy migrants, seeking asylum in the US will wait in Mexico while their cases are resolved.
Top Democrats urge caution on impeachment as party plots way forward
"With the release of the Miller report last week. Democrats have been ramping up the calls to impeach President Trump House Democrats engaged in a conference call tonight. But there is a clear divide on those four impeachment and those against it. Correspondent ouija Jiang says that may favor President Trump. Well, it certainly helps the Democrats can't even decide and there's clearly friction even among their own party about how to handle the evidence from the Miller report. And so President Trump is maintaining very cool stance about impeachment. The big time House Judiciary committee chairman, Jerry. Now, there's a peanut former White House counsel, Don Mcgann testify on statements attributed to him in the mullahs report attorney and former federal prosecutor Laurie Levenson front row seat. I'm what was happening. And the Trump White House, and he cited repeatedly in the Muller report. He's the person they wanna hear
How Much Does This Cow Weigh?
"Golden was the kind of person who believes in experts, you know, people who had studied things people who knew stuff he figured they knew things that ordinary people just did not. I mean, of course, they did. Right, obviously elimidate golden goes to a country fair. This is about one hundred years ago in England. And there's this contest going on at the fair guests the way to the ox, Goldens, a scientist and statistician and he figures, hey, I can do an experiment here. Right. He's figures I'm going to take. Everyone's guesses take the average and compare that to the actual weight of the ox. We heard the story from James, sir, Wicky, he's an economics journalist. So he thought what you were gonna end up with was a really flawed guess because in his mind what you were doing was you were taking guesses of few smart people a few mediocre people. And then a lot of morons because he basically everywhere. Everywhere. So he figured the the the group's gas was going to be way way off the Mark the contest organizers gave golden the little slips of paper with everyone's guesses on them. He took them calculated. The average the average was eleven hundred ninety seven pounds and the ox the ox weighed eleven hundred and ninety eight pounds. So that in other words, the crowds judgment was essentially perfect one pound off one pound of this is super creepy. What's going on here? Is there? Some kind of like collective unconscious. Magic is like a ouija board or something. Right. But the idea that underlies this it is everywhere. The idea of the stock market, you know, thousands of random people buying and selling shares like when you hear that apple stock went up or the Dow plunged that's basically people guessing the weight of an ox, it's everywhere. Right. It's it's the price of oil. It's the price of orange juice all kinds of things that are really important to the world work exactly this way. But why should it work? Why should a bunch of random people a lot of whom have no idea what they're doing somehow magically produce an answer. That makes sense does this really work. And if it does why. Hello and welcome to planet money. I'm Jacob Goldstein. And I'm David Kessler inbound today on the show, Mr. golden, we redo your experiment. What's the Cas name, Penelope Penelope? Thanks for letting us. We you better. She's chewing one bound off come on. Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from ZipRecruiter hiring used to be hard multiple job sites. Stacks of resumes. But today hiring can be easy. And you only have to go to one place to get it done. Ziprecruiter, ZipRecruiter, sins your job to over a hundred of the web's leading job boards. Then ZipRecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find people with the right experience and invites them to apply to your job. Try it for free at ZipRecruiter dot com slash planet. Money. Now that my says has lost all its territory what happens to the people left behind. She chose to take. So that she should starting Syria on raw and what about their children? How it ends a new series on embedded. So we came up with a plan to repeat, Goldens experiment. Find a fair and a cow in a big scale to weigh cow. And then he grit in the grit, and then we were going to throw the question out to the crowd. Ask the world. How much does this cow way? We didn't want to just limit it to people at the fair. So we figured we'd take some pictures post them online and asked the whole world to guest. So we went out to county fair in Burlington county, New Jersey, we met Penelope the cow in the dairy tent. She was sitting on a bunch of. Hey juiston. Kuzmich was taking care of her. Can you just describe what she looks like? Yeah. She's mostly black. She has white legs. And she has a white spot in the middle of her head, but she big black cow. What did you say? So I said holy cow without even realizing saying she's much bigger. She just stood up. She's walking out of the barn now. And she's way bigger than I thought when she was sitting down. We took some pictures of you Jacob standing next to the cow for scale and just for finally decided to ask people at the fair how much they thought Penelope wait as it happen. It was kids days. So there are a lot of kids. Which was fine. You know, non-experts what's your name K? Look how much do you think? Now ways. Six pounds. How'd you come up with that number? 'cause I'm six years old. You guys want to guess how much this Calloway's sixty hundred pounds six thousand. Dear how much you weigh? Not at all. I'm sympathetic looking at L P. I had no idea how much she weighed. Like, I didn't even know how to think about it that way more than my car that you a less than my car. I don't even know how much my car was more than a cow. I wanna say more than a cow. We found an older group of kids and yet they also guest on the low side, but they had this bigger problem. This this really more worrying thing, and it was a problem that adults also seem to have. And it was this the first kid said a number, and then all the other kids said, basically, the same number numbers that were like too close to the I it's like they're incapable of guessing anything different. How old are you? I'm ten how much do you think that cow ways? He'll hundred pounds. My news Gabriella, I'm ten and I think the cow as three hundred pounds. My name is kid nine seven years old, and I think the cow weighs three hundred pounds. People are not that different from cows. We heard if we don't know something we look for a leader. Even if the leader, maybe doesn't know any kanobi finished chewing, and we took her over to be weighed. It's actually pretty unusual to one away cow and the scale they had of the fair was not for. What kind of scale is this? It's actually like a truck scales. What it's for same sauce scale use for big trucks and stuff, which we use it the way the tractors during the tractor pool for the work it'll work for a cow. Yup. Testing bam. You were obsessed paranoid. Arguably paranoid about keeping the result of this secret. You didn't want it to leak out? I guess Gan all of these people had gathered actually, can we can we clear commune seriously clear, everybody out except for just a minimum of people. Like, can we swear you? Okay. Just see everybody else. Everybody else over there. Here's sin walked Penelope up onto the scale. We watched this little digital display. Okay. It's one thousand three hundred and fifty five pounds. One thousand three hundred and fifty five pounds. We walked Penelope back to the dairy tent. And then we went home the next day. We posted photos online of the Cowan you may right. I was there to give some sense of perspective. We put you on the tractor scale. Yes. Hundred and sixty five pounds that much. That's how much I weigh then our colleague courtroom buoy here. Put it all up online guests the weight of this cow, and the ideal was our hope was that lots and lots of people would guess because the fundamental question here. The thing we're trying to figure out is if you have a bunch of random people making their best guests at something. Do you get close to you know, the truth? Do you get close to the right answer? So we put it up, and we waited for the results to come in. All right. It's been up for how long now two minutes comedy entries as fifteen inches reload. Reload. Here we go. Still fifteen still fifteen come on. Oh my God. That's all we're gonna get fifteen. We'll re tweet this.
"ouija" Discussed on Last Podcast on the Left
"It's Kato kaylin just like. Ceylan? No kidding. The Warren spent their lives railing against ouija boards, telling anyone who would listen that. All we jeez. Should be buried two feet under the earth and sprinkled with holy water claiming that four out of every ten cases they investigated started with the weedy people like them are responsible for a lot of the mitts surrounding the ouija board. Like if you don't break it into seven pieces bury it in a deep hole. Say a pair than sprinkl it with little holy water because you're trying to get rid of that spirits summoned. We'll come back to haunt. You know, what we did we burnt ours? We board at my friend errands house because it kept on changing the CD flipper. I don't think someone had the remote or the remotes. We can see on the table, and the flipper was just going we burnt it. So where you can do because say that if you burn a weedy board, the ouija board might scream well. And anyone who hears the Weizhu scream will die within three days. Well, all of us are around. I mean. But there are quite a few people out there who agree with the Warren's when they say that something diabolical lives on the other side of the board up for some. There's a singular diabolical being that haunts the weedy and that beings name is Zo the dancing cloud. No. I'm just going to say not a scary. It is I like it because it is. Because it's cute. It does sort of sound scarier you like the idea of like what I always like about Annabel the doll and all that kind of shit and the conjuring some creepy looking doll. It's just fucking raggedy. Ann doll looking simpler that scarier to me thousands of people across the world claim that they've come into contact with Zoro, while using the ouija board when one context Zo it said, whatever it is will repeat its name over and over again rapidly moving between the Z O on the board sows sows and you'll also notice it zone when it spells out got your nose really bizarre interest area train or Zo, Joe, we'll take a different scene AM one researcher called cintas. Oh, it was pretty cool. Yeah. Those those include Zaza Zo. Zora's za`z Zohar and many others. Zoro, it's all just fun..
"ouija" Discussed on Last Podcast on the Left
"That was terrible. Does he look? And then you got Bubba. Bubba comes through. Shrill. Bowl. Remember? I love baba. I actually eight it. Bubba Gump's recently. Resuming. No Thomas of the kind that the ouija uses has actually been around for millennia. The earliest known example comes from the year. Five fifty beat see when pathetic used a table on wheels. That when he is students placed his hands upon it would roll towards certain signs and symbols painted on the floor. Magic used to be so much bigger commercial space that would take he literally used to make a fucking a Bank see sized workshop where he would go with these. The cock av cart and use the ouija board with a bunch of people and in front of a crowd of people is very very cool. Talking board is such an interesting part of our history. And then it also goes to would you call the fucking oracle of Delphi talking bar to almost all kinds. It's very interesting. But as far as modern times go we think the seeds for the weedy, we're planning sometime in the eighteen fifties. But as. As j Edward Cornelius points out, the problem with the history of the ouija board is that it is infested with spiritualists who were for the most part, not the most trustworthy of people for those of you who don't know spiritualism was a movement that began in the nineteenth century when a whole bunch of people mostly British Americans took advantage of the death. Obsessed culture around them and claim to be able to use certain techniques to speak directly to the dead. But this shit was like the coolest concert or the world. Yeah. This is such a bit. We will eventually again another. How many times have I gonna fucking today? This is one of those. We will do spiritualism in the history spiritualism on last podcasts. It's absolutely fascinating. But the the it riled up real magicians because they got very very upset because this is a before like now like in the nineteen eighties with chaos magic. And all that kind of shit that kind of made magic a part of the cultural consciousness, this was them believing. They were taking the stuff that they hold personally, very, dear. And the techniques that they use to speak to the upper levels of experience, and they were using it to sell tickets. But this is FOX sisters and stuff like that. Yes. But you know, I don't know I'm conflicted on it because if it might help people, and if it does help people, then I'd say what's the harm? That's I that's a great conversation, which I actually I'm with you. I feel like you can offer something that if it makes people feel good is it bad. I don't know if I was a spiritualist. I would just be like, okay. You lost? You lost your husband. Brent? Okay. I have he's coming through it. He's coming here. Brent? Great actually, tell you. I'm horrible spiritualist. Well, the problem with it is that spiritualist really like money, and they tend to prey on people who don't have a lot of Ryan some spirituous will take every last fucking dime that that person has to man time left. Gotta get it. Absolutely. Call me now. Cleo using everything from table, wrapping table tapping table turning to using a woman breast as a stand in for dead babies head a little bit different than three wish it every baby's head was a woman's. Spirituous were mixed bag of true believers and huckster 's who preyed on grieving people wanting to contact dead loved ones, Alister, Crowley summed up his view of spiritualists in one word quote fall. What was fell he literally it's FAA you h that was his favorite word would fall or something. Like fuck these people, but it was also his reaction condoms. It's a Korean dish fought? No. That's Vietnamese and Alister Crowley, obviously is the hipster of hipsters about magic especially at the time because he was over this shit. He had a lot of work, and it was like an order to build up the kind of shit that he was talking about drawing the maps of the gnocchi and super universe..
Partial government shutdown likely to extend past Christmas
"Let work begin. It's an indication and and do a partial government shutdown. Maybe a long way off congressional Democrats refused to give Mr. Trump the five billion dollars. He wants to start building a wall. CBS news. Correspondent ouija Jiang. Administration says it is trying to manage this shutdown with as minimal disruption as possible and says that four hundred twenty thousand federal employees who are currently working without pay will get their checks, eventually CBS news. Correspondent can of Craig says about twenty five percent of the federal government is closed. There are parts of the government that won't be affected, including the Pentagon, the Veterans Administration and all congressional staff. The US postal service will continue to deliver mail social security checks will still be sent out and. Special counsel. Robert muller's. Russia investigation will press forward. Negotiations are continuing between White House and congressional officials. CBS news face the nation host Margaret Brennan says another member of President Trump's security team is calling it quits
Al Gore accuses Trump officials of trying to 'bury' climate report
"A major climate change report released by the White House the day after thanksgiving the national climate assessment warns that disasters including wildfires and hurricanes will worsen because of global warming. CBS news White House correspondent ouija Jiang is in Florida where President Trump is spending the holiday weekend. She has more on what some are saying about the report, including environmentalist, Al Gore. Former vice president gore said the president may try to hide the truth, but his own scientists and experts have made it as stark and clear as possible he along with many others are also pointing to the timing of the report's release. He says the Trump administration is trying to bury the or findings. The report is
Ford and Kavanaugh make their cases in dramatic, wrenching testimony
"It looks as if the Senate Judiciary committee will take a vote on the Brett cavenaugh nomination Friday after a day of dramatic and sometimes fiery testimony Thursday the latest now from CBS news CBS news, special report, President Trump gave a resounding vote of confidence to Brett cavenaugh after a dramatic Senate hearing that saw university professor Christine Blasi Ford testified that he assaulted her decades ago and the judge furiously fighting back correspondent ouija Jiang. He said he wanted to hear her story that perhaps even she could persuade him to change his mind about Kavanagh's innocence. But he made clear that the burden was going to be on her to do that. Because he had faith in cavenaugh, and he believed him, and it's pretty clear from this tweet that in his eyes. She did not meet that burden this back and forth between the supreme court Justice hopeful and Republican John Kennedy. None of these allegations are correct, no doubt in your mind zero one hundred per se. Cent certain not even not a scintilla one hundred percent certain center, you swear to God. I swear to
Dr Christine Blasi Ford, Judge Kavanagh and Assault discussed on Red Eye Radio
"Judge Kavanagh's accusers now expected to testify about his alleged sexual assault attempt. This coming Thursday just ahead of a Saturday afternoon deadline with some key elements. Not yet. Attorneys for Christine Blasi Ford, tentatively agreed to let her tell her story to senators who will later vote on Kavanagh's nomination to the supreme court. Well, latest from correspondent ouija Jiang US marshalls escorted judge Brad Kavanagh out of his Maryland home, a rare glimpse of the supreme court nominees since Dr Christine Blasi Ford accused him of sexual assault. Both say they've recently received death threats. Dr Ford's attorney sent a letter to the Senate Judiciary committee agreeing to provide a firsthand account of her experience with Cavanaugh next week. It is unclear what form any potential testimony would take those terms are still under
Top Trump Organization official Weisselberg was granted immunity in Cohen investigation
"Today we learned. President Trump's money man for from within four decades was granted immunity for providing information about Michael Cohen Mr.. Trump's former lawyer and fixer he joins a growing list. Of the president's inner circle who have cooperated or are cooperating with, federal prosecutors ouija Jiang is traveling tonight with the president's in, Ohio Today President Trump ignored questions about his. Longtime money man. Alan Weisselberg who spoke to federal prosecutors in exchange for unity in the case that led to a plea deal for the president's former fixer Michael Cohen Cohen said before
OSU's Urban Meyer faces three-game suspension
"States suspended for three games, it's head football. Coach urban Meyer for mishandling domestic abuse complaints against, his, assistant CBS news correspondent Jim Axelrod has more Ohio State football coach urban Meyer tried. To move past the controversy, in -veloping, is program, a followed my heart, not my head but seemed only, to reignited after his suspension was announced and he was asked about the woman who accused her husband the former, assistant coach for Meyer named Zach Smith of domestic Violence in two thousand fifteen Meyer claimed. He hadn't known about the accusations until it was revealed last, month he had what message do you have for Courtney Smith Well I message for everyone involved in this I'm sorry that we're in the situation on Ohio state's. Football crates campus Meyer support goes beyond strong the national. Championship, he led the buckeyes to in two thousand fourteen wraps him in something a little closer
"ouija" Discussed on WGIR-AM
"You or stick with you or don't go away for example if you were to goodwill or a secondhand store and bought a sweater you don't think about who owns the sweater or you know you go and you buy a car a used car off a car you don't know what the previous owner did with that car unless you go to carfax he go someplace else where you talked to the owner but chances are if you buy a sweater that is it a goodwill if you buy a car that you don't who the owner is you don't think about you get in the car you drive off you put on the sweater you are the sweater but let's say let's say if i were to tell you the sweater you're wearing the previous owner was a serial killer you wouldn't wear that sweater would you so that that's that's something else entirely that's the law of contagion your sue i don't wanna get anywhere near that like people write me tonight i'm talking about the ouija board okay and so is because of the stigma that's put on it's because what you're told that might give you if you play with it right play with a ouija board so here's another example of law contagion we really don't care k and that is let's say you go to the store and you buy a cup of coffee all right and the coffee is like ten bucks and you have a twenty you're expecting ten of it back right well you eagerly get that money back you take it in your hand you put it in your pocket but you don't realize that money is thirty and he can have traces of drugs or something else that can be bad for you on it matter of fact in fact they just did they did a volunteer survey and.
"ouija" Discussed on WGIR-AM
"Almost clydes full of it he's talking to his dad and people would guy don't believe you but if i had a ouija board and i said that if you're on the planet shit speech to me oh my god she's playing with what you are yeah right no no i think people they knew anything about medium ship and if they knew anything about spirituality anything about the roles of god and demons have there are rules yeah you know and and that and there's kind of like a fire insurance between god the devil and us yes in most of the time we're not supposed to be played with yeah yeah if you add the double enough the devil say okay i'm the combined say hi and it's not going to be fun you can it be careful what you ask for so what was going on with four thing oh my gosh who's gonna start okay so we we go to the house i mean the second you walk into the house first of all the last time we did this show june got over two hundred emails socor help yes so this was one of those instances and so we go to the house to help and see the second we walk in the house i mean you could just feel it in the air and the animals the animals you could tell they were responding to something run and long story short we end up going being led to the back room which the animals wouldn't go to the people who lived in the house wouldn't go to and june ends up taking care of the demonic presence that was in this back room once we were dumb and go to the front room or maybe it was before we did all that and we asked.