17 Burst results for "Otto Graham"
The Dan Patrick Show
"otto graham" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"Well, it was interesting because when Fox replayed it and then my Carrera got on, initially when they replayed it, I didn't think they went to the start of really kind of where the whole that was called took place. So I agreed with Mike saying, hey, if you go back and you show it or sooner in the route, and then they showed it, and I just didn't, I didn't see what I thought I saw initially. Now, I will say, I don't think, and I don't think there was a great look at it. I think there was one angle. I didn't see a good look at a real hole for that moment in the game. So I personally didn't like the call. I don't know, though, Dan, if you say, hey, you can't make that call at that point in the game. I don't know that I agree with that premise because I think holding is holding. And that's what the official's job is. You have to be willing to make a call if, in fact, it happened. But from what I could tell and what I saw, I didn't think there was enough there to basically give this not give, but to basically hand the Super Bowl over to Kansas City, the game was over at that point. I didn't feel like there was to me it had to be pretty egregious to where there was just no doubt. And I think the fact that we're sitting here having this conversation and I'm sure people are all across the country, probably tells you there wasn't quite enough there. Yeah, dean blandino, fox's rules analysts going to join us here coming up a little bit. Also, the longer halftime show seemed like that would have benefited mahomes who had the tender ankle. And that must feel interminable when you're just sitting there, did you get to hear the music at all? Did you care who the halftime show was in your Super Bowl? And no, I could care less. You know, and I probably my first Super Bowl was probably the best halftime show in the history of super bowls. And that was Michael Jackson. And I didn't, all I wanted to do was win a Super Bowl day and I know what that meant. I know what that meant to a quarterback now. Michael Irvin, on the other hand, he says that he went out and snuck out there to where he could watch the halftime show and I don't remember that, but I'm not at all surprised by that. You know, that would be expected. If you had input on the cowboys in the off season. Let's say one or two things that you said to Jerry Jones, you got to do this. Or Stan pat, whatever it is. What would you say? Yeah, I think they've I don't think they I don't think they addressed the wide receiver position. When Amari Cooper left, I've always said, Dan, back when back when I was playing, that you're offense is only as good as your third receiver. And now I would say that that might very well be you're only as good as your fourth receiver. And it doesn't have to be a wide receiver. It could be a tight end or you've got to have four pretty solid weapons in today's game if you're going to be the offense that you really need to be to move the football. And so they lose Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup was coming off a major knee injury. He wasn't the same guy that we had seen from him. The workload really came down to CD lamp. So I believe that they will. They tried to when they brought in TY Hilton. There was talk about Odell Beckham. They recognized, I think, throughout the year, where they were limited, and now I think the running back, they're going to have to make some hard decisions in addition to that, to players that have been impactful for them and do they keep them. Guys, for instance, like Zeke Elliott, you know, what's going to happen with him? Right, Thompson did a wonderful profile on Joe Montana during Super Bowl week. And Joe was forever the greatest quarterback of all time. And then Tom Brady blew by him and write Thompson pointed out that Joe kind of struggling with that. You lose your identity as the greatest quarterback of all time as we see the game get farther and farther away from guys like you who've played, like do you ever worry about your place, your Hall of Famer, but do you ever worry about where you are in history? Well, I would say this, Dan, that I've got that article. I haven't yet read it. I've heard it's fantastic. So I'm excited, really excited about reading it. I also Joe Montana was in the league when I came into the league. I watched him when I was in high school and college. I've always felt for the longest time that he was the greatest to have ever done it. And then you lose sight of guys like Otto Graham and those type players that we just didn't get a chance to see. And then I called the game when Tom Brady won his 5th Super Bowl. And I said at that time, I don't think we can dispute it now. This is the greatest that's ever done. And then he's gone on, of course, and then really solidified that opinion. Am I worried, Dan? No one's ever thought I was the greatest. So this is real easy for me. This is, you know, I don't, it's never been that important to me on where I've placed in the list of great quarterbacks. I'm proud of my career. I went into the Hall of Fame. I joined the cowboys. I was drafted by the cowboys to win super bowls. I was able to win three of them. And at the end of the day, that's all that matters. I mean, in my opinion, that's all that matters because that's why we play. And that's why we were drafted. And that's why we get paid. Is to go in championships. And I was able to win three of them. And that stacks up pretty good in the history of quarterbacks, but beyond that, if somebody says, hey, you know, you don't deserve this or you weren't, I don't really care. I'm broadcasting, you know, I'm broadcasting games. I'm not the guy who really wants to sit back and talk about 25 years ago. It's just never been really my thing. And people say, really, well, why is that? And I said, well, you know, it almost be like, if every person who's listening to this, if they were told, you know, hey, let's go back and talk about your junior high days and what those meant to you. And you say, man, they were fun times, but you know, I've kind of moved on from them. And so that's where I'm at. I don't pay a lot of attention to all that. I admire the great quarterbacks and the people that are doing it. Where I'm at and all of that is really pretty irrelevant. You got one quarterback to win one game and you can't pick you. I would. Well, it's a great question. I would say I would either take Joe Montana. I'd probably take Joe Montana. I think Tom Brady would be a close second, but I saw Joe do things. Of course, we've all seen Tom do it as well. One of those two guys, I'd probably go with Joe. It's great to talk to you again and good luck with the beer. It's called 8 elite light blogger and it's Troy Aikman done a incredible job. The first year and starting to branch out. Building the fastest independent beer ever launched in the state of Texas. Great to talk. Do you have a great off season? Thank you, Dan. Always a pleasure. Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning, 9 until noon eastern 6 to 9 Pacific on Fox Sports radio and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the peacock app. Hi, this is Jay glazer and you may know me for the world of football or fighting or even shows like HBO's ballers. Well, you don't know. This for my entire life, I have lived in something. I refer to as the gray. Depression, anxiety, so now I'm coming out with a new podcast. Unbreakable, a mental health podcast with Jay glazer, where each week, while we talk about mental health, I hope to describe it. 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Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"otto graham" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"I don't know, but it's fascinating. Yeah, they are, they are a chatty bunch bun. Agents and scouts chatting. Yeah, oh yeah. All right, well, we can end with a past blast before we bring Dan on, so this is episode 1953 and this past blessed consequently comes from 1953 and from Jacob and Sabres director of editorial content and chair of the black Sox scandal research committee and Jacob writes 1953 Otto Graham and Tommy Pham. You'll be forgiven for not remembering when Mickey Mantle's tenure as commissioner came under fire or when duke Snyder finally dethroned branch Ricky as champion of the Dodgers fantasy football league, that only happened in Ford Frick's imagination back in 1953. Baseball's commissioner surprised a lot of people before opening day in 1953 when he issued a sternly worded edict warning players from getting involved in high stakes wagers with each other off the field. Fantasy football wasn't the player's game of choice back then and the closest comparison to Tommy Pham in those days was hot headed Billy Martin. Syndicated columnist Robert rurac was one of several writers who mocked Frick's warning to the players in this piece from May 14th, 1953. Quote, I reckon the nation is safe for another year since friend Ford Frick, the galahad of baseball has issued a stern injunction against the game of hearts at high fee, and he has warned in a voice of doom that gambling is wicked for ballplayers. Commissioner Frick has declared himself against games of chance for high stakes and especially against consorting with shabby characters such as bookies, the deplorable state of Monte Carlo daring do, which aroused mister Frick's official concern comes as a result of pregnant rumor that the young farmhands are out distancing themselves in Clubhouse games of parcheesi or whatever they play these days, but if I am mister Frick, I will not worry too much about excessive gambling among his flock because unless baseball players have changed since my day, they experience acute agony at parting with a dime. It used to be a nickel, but now inflation is here. Jacob concludes Frick didn't call out any specific incidents or name any players who were throwing too much money around the pool rooms or poker tables, so his warning came and went without too much fuss in 1953. Who knows what he would have thought about today's big money Clubhouse bets between players, some of which spill over into public knowledge at least when Tommy Pham gets involved. We do not know if Billy Martin never took a swing at an opposing player for drafting forty-niners quarterback YA tittle over the browns Otto Graham with the number one pick. However, we do know Martin once punched out a marshmallow salesman and lost his job as the Yankees manager. That story was not a figment of anyone's imagination. So I guess this is another the more things change the more they stay the same, except these days says everyone is gambling and betting and sometimes Hawking things in serving as spokespeople and that is mostly allowed to this point and the commissioner looks the other way or actually looks right at it and says more. So I guess things actually have changed in this case. This is the same in the sense that players and people in general want to wager and want to bet on stuff. But the relationship to it has changed at least in an official capacity. Did I see that Pete Rose open sports budding in Ohio? Yes, he placed the first legal bet. He bet on
SI Media Podcast
"otto graham" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"As a play by play announcer, it does build. You feel the build over the course of the game. By the way, Jimmy, I mean, this is pretty insane to think of it in these terms. This was a great NCA tournament, 2022. Zero buzzer beaters. I know there's not one buzzer beater in the lot. And it still made for a pulsating tournament. Yeah. For sure. What was the better raftery line when Kansas's Remy Martin hit a shot late and they have said, there's nothing like a little Remy late at night. Or I believe it was the duke Carolina game when someone got a little slap in the face and he said, it's not even the Oscars. Yeah. I like the Remy. Even more. Yes. Really? I did. I worked for me. I like the Oscars but because one, I didn't think raf would have the Will Smith joke, and he did it so subtly it worked perfectly. But even the Oscars. Yeah. Yes. It was very good. But I just like any kind of play on words with him in regards to self deprecation and drinking. And if it's done in his very sly way, you know, I had one earlier in the tournament there was an update and Adam lefkoe threw it back. It was Remy Martin and, you know, again, this is just in the moment, and I just played it off with. Oh, Remy Martin. Goes down so smooth. And you just continue. Right. Right. And that's the end of it. But I know there are enough people out there. I get it. And you dropped a more cowbell on us during the tournament. I did, yeah, 'cause his name was hunter Dickinson. And you don't get a lot of Dickinson's in high level sports. So I didn't do it in a way I thought that if you didn't get the reference that you're like, okay, I don't know what the hell this guy's talking about. But if you did get the Bruce Dickinson part, we got it. Yeah, yeah. I know you got it, but does America get it? I'm not sure. It isn't rafting. The thing about raftery as good as ever. No suffrage. He completely crushed the NCAA championship game. I thought he was tremendous. He was on top of stuff before it happened. He nailed things in the moment. His awareness, his passion for it. Yeah, he's and I did a bunch of games with him this year, Jimmy. So I'm there with him. I see the preparation is still the same. His enjoyment level is still as high as it's ever been. His recognition level still high, the Q rating within college basketball arenas. You know how many, how many pictures he takes? How many babies he kisses? How many hands he shakes? You know, we had a tight flight on one of them. I can't remember we were going out of Detroit. So it was a Michigan state game, I believe. And there was like a receiving line at the end of the game, and he doesn't have it in him to say no. I'm looking at the clock. I was like, it's going to be tight. We didn't make it, but he took 40. I'm like, Bill, we got to go. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. And he'll say, oh, like they know. They're fans that are surrounding him. He needs me to go. But he's still, he's still just gets, gets it. At all levels, he gets. Last thing before I let you go, I'm not going to ask you, are you enjoying it as much as me? Because I think I'm enjoying it a little too much, but Chris mad dog Russo, who you used to work for at WFAN. On first take. Yeah. That's great. I mean, talk about just a renaissance for the dog at this point. Yeah, and you know what's interesting, Jimmy, for doggy, look, this could have been ten years ago, and it would have worked. But for some reason, I feel like it works better now. And where he is in his life and what that fills whatever void that fills for him on a national level to do that, a high profile, the fact that he can go back and forth with Stephen a and do it with that look in his eye, you know, Chris, you know, Jimmy with doggy. He won't just say things for effect. He will sometimes I'll completely disagree with him, but he will believe it in his heart. 100%. And he will go with every angle to try to dress you down if you have the opposing viewpoint. And that could be on the air with a caller. That could be with a guest on the air that could be in a car when I drove with him for a year of my life commuting between Astoria and midtown and that passion is real and his ability to make those moments stand out, that's a real thing. So it's combustible and it's tangible and it's a lot of fun. And I think he's having a gas. I think he's really enjoying it. And for you and I, obviously, I mean, you know much better you work for him. But you know, we forget, even though he's on series like that, he's still a New York thing. The fact that so many people around the country are now being exposed to him. And seeing The Rain man like memory and the fact that he wants it to be 1950 in sports. People must be. I mean, the first time he hit Steven a would an Otto Graham reference, it was phenomenal. Yeah, and look, it's going to run the gap. Greta gobble. The idea that that could be mentioned on first take is hard to fathom, but he will find a way. And it's not even something that he would think of that morning. Like, hey, man, I really got to get in, it is completely in the moment and the rolodex for him is in a different era. His references are different yet, if you do go and Google them, if somebody that doesn't know, you'd be like, oh, wow. That actually made sense in a crazy, nutty way. He compares every NFL head coach to Vince Lombardi. If you're not even Belichick, he would knock by saying he's no insulin bar. It's just an amazing way to look at sports. And sometimes then even like an NBA guy, you'll say that so and so is having a great run and it is a fun player. Hey, look, there's no elven Hayes. Okay. What? Why? I'm sure I'm sure he'll have you on sometime during these playoffs. And we'll tell you why Kyrie and Duran are not great. Yeah. The butcher or something. Yeah, and believe it or not, Jimmy, when he'll have me on, it will be if I do a game on Turner and then have to fly to a net game in either Boston or Brooklyn and something will peek his curiosity about how I got there. That will be the thrust of hey, we gotta get little buddy on for a spot. I have no idea how that will absolutely keep him up at night, trying to determine what flight I.
The Rich Eisen Show
"otto graham" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"Happens. I said, well, no, I don't think that's how it happened. Okay, but they're similarities, but yeah, but they're still asleep right now. She's wearing a little she has a little her dad found out. He was 20% Irish with 23andMe. Okay. Yeah, I found out what I found out last year when you were in Ireland before I went to Ireland. So the show finding your roots on PBS, I will be in an upcoming their editing my episode right now. Fantastic. They spent last year. They spent ten months working on my genealogy and uncovered something, a secret that everyone went to the grave with. I got it. You're from a family of browns fans. No? That would be tough. You just broke into a sweat right there. Yeah. That would be terrible. Joe, I hate to break it to you. We found out. Your great, great, great grandfather. Diehard browns fans was Paul Brown. Otto Graham, yes. Okay, sorry. So yeah, and we uncovered the secret. So in an upcoming episode of finding your roots, you'll find out. Fantastic. Where that came from and how and which side of my family. What else you got going on? You always got about 15% going on. Well, there's the upcoming metal lords from DB Weiss we call them Dan and my Dungeons and Dragons come on. But he wrote this amazing movie for Netflix called metal lords, which is about a group of kids not often represented who are in a death metal band trying to win the battle of the bands at their high school. And it's this heartwarming, like really fun, great, young high school kid movie about kind of the tropes and archetypes you don't often get in those types of movies. Super fun, great music, Tom Morello. There's all the music. There's some great, great cameos from huge rockstars in it. And the kids are so good. You will fall in love with these kids. So that's coming out soon. And Zack Snyder's Army of the Dead anime series will come out and then I've got a couple other things that I'm actually writing right now. Okay. That hopefully I'll be able to announce soon because they're kind of like, they're like dream projects of mine that I've been working on for a year that I haven't been able to talk. As you know, we're always here for you. Whenever you think coming up and just for anybody out there in our peacock or SiriusXM or terrestrial radio audience, we're used to hearing it, but yes, Joe Manganiello is in a Dungeons and Dragons group. And one of the members is one of the creators of the Game of Thrones television theory series. DB Weiss Dan Weiss, right? And Dave Benny off played. He's in it too? Yeah, so actually the people who brought Game of Thrones to life on HBO are Dungeons and Dragons members. Well, they grew up playing it. I mean, which makes sense. Which is what the show became. And yeah, so they play characters and my show every week or the adventure. They don't have to, they don't have to write, they just have to show up and they get to play their characters, which is really fun. Right. Which is like with the 25 sided die and stuff like that. It gave 5 too many sides. And does your wife still refer to you guys as the nerds? Does she refer to you guys as the nerds still? I prefer intellectual. Does bubbles make it into the Dungeons and Dragons room? Bubbles sits on my lap while I run the games and just takes a nap. She just goes to the grandmaster. Is that what it is? Dungeon master. Doctor master. I'm about making fun of you. You seem like I'm making fun of you. I'm not doing it. I mean, there's a little bit you were close enough to 20. I think you knew it was a 20 sided, which you went 25 to try to hide your tracks. If I only had my cloak of invisibility on right now. There it is. Okay, there we go. Skin the game. Just get in the game. I know. But I get destroyed in two seconds. Like I'd be dead, I'd be dead before I hit the floor. Walk you through it. And you could make the greatest character ever, rich. Like what? Whatever you want to do. What do you think? You cast spells? Do you fight? Do you do with a little bit of both? I really thought of it. That's good. I'm a spellcaster. That's a good. I do that every day. That's a good one. Yeah. The rich eyes that show audiences spellbound every day. Throw flames. Yeah, fireballs. Yeah. Yeah. Lightning bolts fireballs. Why wouldn't anybody create the most powerful character of all time? Because you start off as like a little tadpole and then you have to grow. That takes time. You have to grow. But that's the fun of it. You're on an ongoing series. You're in Game of Thrones. You succumb to our Game of Thrones parties every week. This is your chance to be on the show, who do you want to be the mountain you want to be Jon Snow, who you want to be. What are the Daenerys? Whatever you want. And drinking and watching TV. If George Martin came to play, would you would you come up with? Oh, I talk jets with him. He's a talk jets with him. They were supposed to COVID hit. So we had to stop playing live because COVID hit. There's a zoo in George was going to come over. Yeah, then we started doing it by Zoom. Yeah. So you roll the die on Zoom and is there just like so there's a program where I put up the map in each character can only see what you can see. So if you have like night vision, I program how far you can see if you have a torch and you can see how far you can only see what you can see. So sometimes people in the zoom are like, oh no, and you're like, because you can't see it. What happened? What happened? Get up here, you know, and then you have to get in a fight. Okay. So I have the map up here and then we have zoom over there so we can ask each other. Ballpark it for me. What's my time commitment if I start this process? Ballpark. What is it? Well, I mean, this is like hey man, you know, what's my time commitment? If you were like, hey, I want to, I want a deadlift 600.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"otto graham" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Stafford is a Hall of Famer or not. Since you're both officially over. Big arguments. They brought Amina kyme. She was saying no, it was going nuts. Kevin Clark is here from the ringer. He did an excellent job writing on the deadline from the Super Bowl. He's one of our hosts on the ringer NFL show. And I'm gonna start here Kevin. What is the dumbest storyline that's going to come out of this Super Bowl? That we can immediately debunk right now and try to throw some water on. I mean, the Stafford Hall of Fame thing is a little strange to me. We can't. I saw Nick right here this morning. It can't just be quarterbacks. And Aaron Donald, right? Is that the future we want for the Hall of Fame like a bunch of guys who put a big numbers. It's funny because I really like Matthew Stafford. It went I went to Detroit three two years ago and I said, I think I said Matt. I think you do the forgotten guy, because you think about the two generations above him, you know, obviously Eli, Philip Rivers, Ben, and then above that river. Right. And then above that is obviously Manning and Brady. And then below him, he was getting lapped by the mahomes of the world, eventually the Joe burrows of the world. And I said, you're in this weird window where you don't, you know, you don't have any peers really because the NFL didn't know what to do with the spread off of them. There's a million reasons for it, but there was kind of a dead zone of quarterbacks and you were in here putting up a ton of numbers. And so I thought his legacy had been underrated a bit, and then he wins a Super Bowl with essentially one good drive and now all of a sudden we're putting a gold jacket on him. I thought that was strange. The other narrative that I thought was a little bit strange. Can I chip on Stafford? Because I actually, as I was watching first take, I started wondering how many quarterbacks are in the Hall of Fame. Do you know the answer? I don't tell me. What's your guess? 'cause I was surprised. Just guess. Stop your head. 20. Interesting. So I would have said 48. I had no idea. It's only 27. Okay. And so I listed the guys basically by decades, even though guys overlap decades, right? But if you really lay it out, you look at it. It's basically 5 guys per decade. So you start in the 40s with autogram bob waterfield. The 50s are united van brocklin tittle bland Elaine. 60s are Namath tarkin star Dawson juergensen. 7 days are stop back stable, Bradshaw, Bradshaw greasy. 80s are Elway Marino Montana Faust Kelly. 90s are moon farm, young Aikman. Yeah. And then we get to the 2000s, which Peyton Manning, Kurt Warner and Tom Brady will be in Roethlisberger and breeze will be in. And then we get to the 2010s, roger Stafford Ryan rivers Eli, Wilson. So if you look at it, it's like four or 5 per decade, but in the 2010s we have 6. So that's been a huge problem. You get into huge problem, which is you can't do this for the quarterback position. There was a huge offensive boom in 2011 onward, right? This is the easiest era ever to play quarterback. Yes. And you can't draw the line and say, we're gonna let all these quarterbacks who have great numbers and one, one Super Bowl and not do that for receivers. There's a receiver who's coming in right now is setting records for rookies. I'm Justin Jefferson. Jamar chase, there's gonna be a huge boom of receivers who are Hall of Fame eligible too. And so what do you do? I wrote this 5 years ago. I remember calling voters, like, what are you doing with this? And you raised the bar. You raised the bar. You don't lower the bar and say, well, Matthew Stafford did this and he's better than Dan Marino, no, no, like it is so easy to play quarterback relative to any other errand football. Not just talking about the sort of health and safety rule changes. How about schemes? I'm not coaching. I'm talking about defensive rules, which have been getting, you know, I think people have been complaining about defensive rules since 1978, basically. But it's gotten easier and easier every single year. And so and longevity. Yes, yes, exactly. Joe Montana was on his day of the day, and he was just like, he was like, the goat debate, the greatest of all time debate is so different now because if Joe Montana were born in 1980, he would have played 7 more years. Right. You have the guys, if you look at the list like stomach played 11 years. Now he went to the navy. Otto Graham was 9. You know, Marino was 16 and it felt by the end it felt like he was a hundred years old. Steve Young was so tame. Watch late Dan Marino drives. No one has ever dealing. But he no one has ever looked older on a football field. But you think like when they were playing quarterbacks back then, it wasn't just the head hits. It was the constant guys diving at their leg. Legs, right? Merino. I saw a clip, Rodney Harrison, when he took out shrink green. Did you ever see that clip of the I forgotten about it? It was the last preseason game and he did the Bernard power dive into his legs, but it was actually worse than Bernard Paula, powered and just takes him out in like the second quarter of a meaningless preseason game. That was happening all the time. So these guys, it was inconceivable, which brings me to Stafford. Right now, 12 all time. He's almost has 50,000 passing yards. He figured with the longevity thing. He might play 6 more years. He could play until he's 40. And at that point, he'll be one of the 5 biggest passing yard guys. And he has a Super Bowl. I don't think he's a Hall of Famer now, but I just think there's no way he's not going to be in there. So the new, the new way to figure this out. The days of Warren Moon making it, I don't think it's over. I think you're going to have to have a Super Bowl.
WGBB Sports Talk New York
"otto graham" Discussed on WGBB Sports Talk New York
"That black and white players could compete not get into like fights Could compete athletically On a level playing field if you will And that gave him great motivation and mary molly treasured that letter And he joe horrigan from the pro. Football hall of fame always talked to marrying often. Talk to mary ann about that. Mary himself admitted you know he. He talked about how he had that letter and it was one of the proudest things he'd ever had. And and it was very enlightening for ricky. Because you know there was. There was fear of you know if you're going to integrate leagues. There was literally fear of fights breaking out black and white players play against one another but but branch rickey seeing that Really influenced him and set the stage and a lot of ways for him to sign. Jackie robinson the brooklyn dodgers in nineteen forty seven a year after motley and willis played for the browns and and washington and strode for the rams right. He didn't waste any time branch rickey he way went right now at the next year. And that's an example folks so what you'll find in this book. I want to tell you a quick story bob. I had the opportunity. I was at a card showdown. I think. He's a saint. Peter tampa and otto. Graham was there and they also had marion motley now. Marian needed a ride from his hotel to the mall with with the card show was so they asked me to go get him so i hop in my car. My rent a car and head over to the hotel. Fine marian get him into the car and we started heading over to the car show and such fascinating stories What a gentleman. He was in Very soft spoken and the chemistry between he developed with otto. Graham was really legendary. wasn't it it really was And they got along so well and that was one thing that you know. Paul brown pulp brown was legendary coach. A hall of fame coach known mostly for his brilliant schemes and strategy and motivation to a large degree. Very successful at massillon washington. High school in massillon ohio..
Monday Morning Podcast
"otto graham" Discussed on Monday Morning Podcast
"Dumped donna. We're going to the broncos ravens game buddy in vegas this week and he he wanted to ask you. He goes because you know when you under the disguise. I'm from cleveland originally. If you haven't done that but the funny thing is when. I told my boys this weekend i was going to the broncos ravens game. They're like what is the guy not like. You were the ravens browns. And the broncos like put it in our heart like nine times and you guys but has nothing to do with the actual cleveland brown franchise at this point. You just hate the ravens we'll because of the browns originally because the brown sugar gory. Yeah we still hate him because it had. That's why we hate them and they're in our division and they they've win a super bowl twice. You know what. I mean there does does. Does ozzy newsom still work for them. He that's the problem. He's the only guy that went with modell and he's been running that team and he had just gotten the job like he we. He was an ex player. He had just gotten the job as president of football operations. When we were in cleveland. They leave town. He goes he. They got to super bowl. You know why you guys never get your. I don't know if he would want the attention. Because i lived through it. It sucks. you don't wanna be like. Oh the sports misery capital of the world. The reason why you guys don't get the attention is because you're not rivals with new york city. I think that that's why we got what we did. Because was yankees red sox and then like we found a little bit. Because we're a steeler. Rivalry has done an owner considered arrive anymore. The pittsburgh goes even worry about us but we the browns specifically do kind of have that moniker in the nfl. Kinda realm because of that steeler rivalry named one six. But you know what's crazy as if you go back and count. Nfl championships and super bowls combined. We still have more. We have seven. Nfl championship solar ridiculous that they don't count nfl championships because the green bay packers of the yankees have football. Oh yeah they've they've won. In all areas. They had a rough the seventies and eighties. Were rough for them. All right when the lynn dickey yeah years. But even then they had james lofty. Don't want the james lofton and john. Jefferson had nobody throw a ball to one of the worst moves. A player ever made john. Jefferson said he went from the san diego. Chargers air coryell would dan fouls dan fouts and he signed for more money to play in frozen. Fuck and green bay. It wasn't lynn dickey at that point. I forget who what was before the magic whoever the fuck they had in between there they just they just went through a bad period and he said he said if i stayed in san diego jerry. Rice would be breaking all my records. And i'm telling you they'll wasn't line. No no doubt he was. He was unreal him. And i remember west chandler Wes chandler in that strike here with the redskins wanted he fucking. He still had over one thousand yards. That's how much they were throwing it. Those guys only played like twelve games less than that. Do they played like eight or nine. Eight or nine. The i want to say the redskins will like eight and one that year because scrubs played like four of them right or whatever they call them scabs scabs. Yeah anyway that. I find fascinating is just how like certain teams. Just they get new coaches. They get new owners and blah blah blah. But they just still this this thing where they just like. The giants will always just have a great defense. The bears always have good defense but they for the life of them. The bears have never had a superstar quarterback ever. Even jim mcmahon gym man was a personality he was. He was like the downtown. Julie brown of quarterbacks right like more like a socialite. I would put him. he couldn't jump. He couldn't care you on his back in the fourth quarter. I can elway or montana. Wasn't that kind of not. They've never had cleveland auto graham. Maybe would you. Last superstar bernie was tough man. I'll find you gotta but yeah. I mean we had a frank ryan a lot of people. Sipe people forget program. Brian sipe won an mvp. Eighty one almost wanted again in. Eighty two Frank ryan was great. Frank ryan i believe grind site rick springfield saint guy telling you same guy. When am i head. When i think of a for frank ryan though a lot of people don't realize i think frank ryan has the greatest winning percentage of any starting quarterback in the history of the nfl. He came after otto graham but he was winning. Paul brown they were winning. Titles like just winning titles left and right all the time. We've had bill bella check for one year last time. We want a playoff game. The last time we want him to be the new england patriots and bill. Belichick was our coach out in the last time. Ninety four. I was at that. Game wildcard game in cleveland stadium. The last time we have one we who do you like what do you like. What do you think peyton. Manning wes welker. I love that wildly veterans like. We're going to see a forty five thirty eight or thursday night so they can do baltimore gonna put up some points this year. They're going to have to exist. Defense ain't going to be as good as it used to be a ballgame. Yeah but it's flacco that good. Good thinking put numbers like that. I'm not saying. He's not a good quarterback because i think he's he's a qu i didn't believe in them forever and i was wrong. Playoff run man and showed it. But is he. He's gonna go fucking touchdown touchdown against manning. Well maybe not all season long but in this game you know what's funny about manning is like everybody was looking. I'm like was a little fragile china doll and now now that he made the season. Nobody's even thinking about it like he. He one hit. They was showing his spinal cord. This guy could never work again and now nobody's nobody's talking about it long as predicted him to win the mvp award this year. Longest neck sense broken. Merton hanks is another steve grogan to to neck braces just a pile them up. Yeah were they. Have they have all that flesh between the shoulder pad and a helmet like two or three of them on top of each other. We'll see. I think they're going to have they're going to help. This is my my prediction on tim. Tebow tim tvos going to get cut and he's gonna go to. The cfl is going to become a superstar up like doug flutie did and he's gonna come back the end of his career either with buffalo with the bears. Really that's my prediction. He's going to cfl. Yes sir you heard it here and monday morning podcast..
KNBR The Sports Leader
"otto graham" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"Thank you so much for joining us happy Thursday. We went over the schedule, my color and I Had him 13 and four He had 12 and five Your thoughts call his homers. All you want thief, full national slate came out. And per usual Sunday night Football Stacked I don't love week one bears and packers but from their chief sent Ravens Packers at $40 Bucks that pager It's week four. Bills that chief See oxen Steelers COLTS it Niners, Cowboys and Vikings. My goodness, it's stacked Chiefs it. Raiders Browns at Ravens 40 Niner. Seahawks Bears Packers. Saints Box W F T Cowboys, Vikings and Packers then eh to be determined After week. 17 pretty nice. It's pretty impressed. Well, that's the That's the number one. Yeah, package. I mean, it was funny that you know Rich Eisen had It's the number one play by play announcer on each of the three crews. So on the Sunday night game, the NBC game it Al Michaels. Any a judge Jim Nance from CBS, and he had Joe Buck from Fox, and each of them wanted a long dissertations about why their packages the best and they got the great Games and It was kind of fun, and Michael's just kind of sat there. All hell would bring up is that today he has seven West Coast games this year, which is interesting. He lives down in Southern California. When the voice of the San Francisco Giants so Sunday night Football does get the best games and they have the ability to flex out of games starting in week five. Which does make their schedule even better. They pay the most rights for it. You know, Handicapper saw was one of NBC that change the landscape of football on television Monday night Football No longer was the premier stage. It clearly became Sunday night football. And especially when you know how Michael's came over with John Madden and it continues now with Michael's and Collins were, so they get the best games. On that very clearly. The best game in the history of American sport, according to the hyperventilating Michael Irvin, and he just went. I mean, a lot of it is It is a big game so week four. His Buccaneers at Patriots and that that is because of all of it, and you're talking about a seven time Super Bowl winning quarterback. And we could bring up with Otto Graham did in the all American conference in the early days of the NFL, But none of you want to hear that. S o. He's the go to just go out of all time. And then he got Bella check and Another day. Another great coaches in football. Obviously, Paul Brown, who was the head coach for Otto Graham of those great teams or even coach Walsh. Sure. You know you could name so many. But when you look at Bella Check six rings is a head coach is too was an assistant coach. It's just such a great matchup and whatever happened with them, leaving That game. I wonder if they thought about moving that toe later in the year when you're clear baseball, and I wonder what we are going to be up against. This will be. So what would this be first week in October? Right when it's Buccaneers of Patriots Week four is the first week. That's when the 40 Niners Our plan Seattle So it's October the third, so actually, that's the last day the baseball regular season. Baseball. The last day is that Sunday, October 30 Giants are playing the Padres October 12 and three at Oracle. So you're not going to be in a baseball playoff? She yet? So I wonder what the debate was. First of all with that game. Ordinarily. That would be an NFC game because Tampa Bay's the road team and they're from the NFC. It doesn't work that way and that they've crossed flexed. CBS and there, you know, a F. C and Fox and their NFC doesn't work that way anymore. You get a lot of funky matchups, but I You know, that's one where I'm sure the powers that be at Fox at Goran and All the way up to Rupert Murdoch were probably saying we're losing this game. Could you imagine that game in the late afternoon window on on Fox? I'm sure CBS. Why did they get into it as well? Sean McManus and that that group But ultimately you went to the biggest stage. I guess you gotta put it on Sunday night football, but that game that may be a regular season record breaker. I'm not sure in all of the country, but it probably will John, but I mean, it's certainly into England. What do you think They're rating they're going to get in New England. All you know, all the states. We're talking all of New England. That'll be an absolute record rating, and I would venture to guess that they will have to look at it and see that could be an all time regular season. Ratings record for any any sport in America. Obviously, football being number one has most of them. But that one when Tom Tommy Boy goes back to New England to play Bella check, and it's you know, it's Tom Brady and the offense against Bella check and that defense That is an enormous game week for on Sunday night will go door to door in Boston. If you're not watching it, they're going to arrest you. I mean, it's everybody's gonna watch that game there And then if there was a game, obviously we want to watch all the 40 Niners game. We're big fans. If there was one game of the year and they said you could only watch one That would be the one.
ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"otto graham" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"He's brought to you by Valparaiso University and they had a big upset win over Drake. The other day, who was undefeated and ranked Val Post smacked him by 17. After ball in the lead the day before in that two game serious so congrats to Matt Logic and Valparaiso, Albert Breer Tristan dwarfs had the highest pro football focus. Great of any player in the Super Bowl. He was a rookie. On the offensive line. I guess it proves that if you have a good offensive line and you protect your quarterback, you can make plays. And if you don't I don't care who you got back there. Even Patrick Holmes. You know what? It's interesting because, you know, I think that like for all the only made over Brady in the homes and the different skill position players, each team had all the different story lines going in and You know, football still a game one of the line of scrimmage and you know, I ast much of anything else. But that game was representative of that. And you know you saw with the chief's losing Um, Eric Fisher and Mitch Schwartz. You know, going to that game and get without their tackles against defensive line that had dominant Sue. And Shaq, Barrett, Jason Pierre Paul and like you said. On the other side, you know it's It's investing in the first round pick the 1st 1st trumpet they had with Tom Brady. They're in the right tackle interesting works and adding it to a group that already really invested in that already had Donovan Smith and Sean gents. And then Ryan Jensen and You know, in Alamar pet on it. Um, you know, we saw the difference. We saw the difference in the two teams really kind of came at the line of scrimmage. And you know the deficiency of cheese had there not only Meant, you know. Patrick Holmes is running for his life all night. But it also meant more three and outs, which allowed the bucks to establish the pace in the temple of the game and kept it from being the sort of fast breaking chief sir are more comfortable. And so you know, I think everything came down to that. You know another great example of how football's a game one blind scrimmage, Albert, you've covered Tom ready for a long time, so you can have perspective of this. So where do you place Tom Brady amongst the grace that you've seen your lifetime. Eyes. I mean, boys, the greatest football player without question, you know, and I didn't see You know, Johnny United or, um, you know where Otto Graham play, but I think it's safe to say that, you know, um, you know, 20 years from now on, we're all old. Not that we aren't already but Uh, that that Brady is going to be, you know, regarded, probably is the greatest football player ever to play. The heavens. Have on sports in sports is tough, You know, and I sort of and I know that I don't want to take a fight with you guys. I know it's city around. But, you know, I think that this does sort of, you know, kind of Elevate him to another level from a lot of other guys could being able to do this another city at his age. And look, I know there are degrees of difficulty and all this, but When I looked this up a sort of blown away. I mean, we all remember what Michael Jordan was with the Wizards. Brady's five years older Now then then, then Jordan was when he signed in Washington and you think about that, and it just sort of. It's crazy to think like How much you know Tom Braise, you know, accomplished Senses. 37th Birthday Four championships is he turned 37. You know it's I don't know. You know, I think we have to kind of let it breathe a little bit The figure out where he's at But, you know, I think we're way past arguing if he's the greatest football player of all time. I think you know now we're looking at things like that. Where I'm preparing him with Jordan comparing the Bay Bruce, you know, compare him with whoever you want. Wayne Gretzky. You know, I think he's very solidly in the argument. As you know, one of the three or four greatest Came sports athletes in North American history. And I hope he grew up here. I grew up here. I love Michael Jordan, all of it. I agree. Tom Brady for me, is the greatest team sports athlete. He the most dominant Lang Gretzky. Wilt Chamberlain's numbers were insane. But in terms of Dropping a guy under your franchise and the effect he has I go. Tom Brady number one. Yeah. You know what's interesting about two guys is like I remember, you know, so I covered Brady now mold up to have covered Brady when he was in his twenties, but Um, you know, I remember my first couple years covering the league and you know I was on the Patriots feet. And so I was every one of their games and five and six and I You know, I just I remember there were even then there was like a feeling of inevitability that in the fourth quarter, whether they were down by 10 are up by 10. He was gonna take over and it was the same sort of feeling. It was the exact same sort of feeling. I remember having Michael Jordan when he was a teenager. You know what I mean? Like where you knew the ball is in his hands at the end of the game. It didn't always work out this way. But you knew what you felt like you knew who was gonna win. You know what I mean? Looking again, like there's almost shocking when it didn't happen in the world points in time for both Jordan and Brady, where they had the ball in their hands, and it didn't work out. But more often than not You felt like it would happen and more than just that. You knew they knew it was gonna happen. And so I think that that's just such a I don't know. I mean, we could talk about like our generation versus you know, kids who are, you know, 20 years old. Now there's so much focus on like Um there's so much focus on like rock athleticism and, like, you know, the ability to you know, put together a highlight that wild people on social media I think sometimes.
Newsradio 700 WLW
"otto graham" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"Miraculously, I got to be a better quarterback, so I think you know, we've got to start by solidifying the front five course. And Palmer said he was blown away by Joe Burrows first year. You know when he was playing, and I would imagine you Second that emotion. Oh, no question about it. Do you know they always talk about Paul Brown? And he always, you know, talk about a player that the game's not too big for him, and you know it. Joe has been a lot of situations and The game is is not too big for him. He can handle it. Um, you know what? It is much as I liked the taste that he did on the field. The thing I'm most of pressure, impressed about For his leadership capabilities and how it is a young player. He was at the forefront of the team. You know, there was a lot of, you know, social issues going around. He was out. Spoken about it. Hey, led the team. Um, you know the team followed him. Hey, he's gonna be a great quarterback for a lot of years for Cincinnati. Can Anderson with us for a few more minutes. And can you look tomorrow at the Super Bowl? 55. Where will you be? And who do you like Brady or Mahomes? Wow, that you know that That's a tough one. Because you know, they're two great quarterbacks. You know when you've got They're supposed to the greatest of all time, and I've told people that that Tom is playing in the last game of the year for the 10th time and going to win it for the seventh time and You know, there is one other quarterback that played in the last game of the year, seven times and 10 times in 17, which is Otto Graham so he could tie out 0 G in my mind with this game, but You know, I think both teams are tremendous. Offensively They do it in different ways. But if something is going to come down to which defense comes up And it can make a play at the critical time and And I got to say my rooting interests are with Tampa. You know, my my one of my best friends and coaching mentor, Tom Moore, who's 82 is coaching down there. I worked with Bruce Arians. You know, in Pittsburgh for three years? No, a lot of guys you know, down on that staff. Byron Leftwich is the offensive coordinator. I coached him in Jacksonville and in Pittsburgh when it came up there, So my sentiments are lying with Tampa Bay. Wow and A couple of stats for you. I was researching today on pro football reference, and Brady. We all know the Brady six. The six quarterbacks drafted before Tom in 2000. Brady has 335 more touchdown passes than all six combined and nearly 35,000 more yards. So it Z. It's pretty unbelievable at that age 40 plus to be playing at that level, Kenny Lot, let the commitment that he's made, you know to his lifestyle to keep playing at that they ages is unbelievable and I don't know him at all. But from everything I indicate it indicates that he's this guy's a star, you know, and he's married does to. Ah, you know, Giselle, who was unturned National Star, and yet I guess he is one of the greatest teammates ever in the locker room. This far is You know, Big one of the guys, and I think that's what I appreciate it as much as anything. Yeah, hard to believe he was drafted number 1 99 into the house and incredible, and I think I think he remembers that every year when he goes to training camp, But he was 1/6 round draft choice. No doubt that's got to motivate him every single day. And speaking of guys doing great off the field like you mentioned what your borough How about Can Anderson alliance and a good friend of mine in West Chester. Gregory Nelson is benefiting from that Can Anderson alliance can't thank you enough, Kenny for that? Well, No, it's that's you know, kind of my my passion. Now my life's work now is, you know, creating live work and engage opportunities for adults with developmental disabilities. We're making a lot of progress. I'm excited that we have purchased 22 acres and Springfield Township and sits in it. But since that area and we're actually gonna build a community, but for now are engaged. Opportunities are Upper running our work opportunities. Um people want to get involved Ken Anderson last dot org's band. We have our autism locks event coming up on February. 28, unfortunately, got all the virtual this year. And but there, go on and find out how you could be a part of that. And I will say one thing that the bands will be live but Aziz, a change bands. We've got it. You're quite and disinfect the stages for protocol. But so I'm doing a lot of interviews that will go on between them. And I've got Jay DeMarcus from Rascal Flatts, who's singing a song for us. When you think of Bengal players, the music The first guy that comes to mind is Mike Reid. He'll be on there playing for us a swell so that'll be a good day. But you can find out all about it. It's autism rocks. But Ken Anderson Lions start awards. Well, beautiful And where will you be watching the game tomorrow? Kenny Anderson. Well, we'll we'll be here. My webs made of a big part of minister only super. We've got some chicken wings and My refrigerator full of beer. So will be sitting in front of a fire watching the game. Well, fantastic. All the candy can't thank you enough all the best to you and Christy and your family and extended family and friends. Well, keep calm, because I love being on with you. I love having you on Any time Kenny really appreciate your time. And now we have some breaking news from the Cincinnati Reds, and I'm turning it over to our producer Jeff Carr, who was in charge of the locked on Reds podcast. Chick. Thank you, sir. Multiple reports confirm that the Cincinnati Reds have signed the strange Gordon to a minor league deal with an invite to spring training. Gordon comes over from the Mariners last season, he hit 200 for the season. He has a career batting average of 2 78 with a career on base percentage of 3 19. He is expected to compete for the shortstop position, a position that he has not played very much of last four years. Should he make it he will make should he make it to the Major League baseball team for the regular season, he will make the major league minimum. And Jeff. Gosh, was Jonathan Villar in in the conversation there, too? There were a lot of reports that the Reds were talking with him over the last couple of days. Nothing concrete. There were some errant reports that said that the Reds had signed him, but yeah. Probably would have been a better deal at least a better signing. I think Dee Gordon is a very fast player. So when you look at his statistics, a lot of that has to do with he can get down the base paths pretty quickly. But he profiles as a interesting death addition. I don't necessarily know that he would solve the Reds shortstop problems. D. Strange Gordon or Dr Strangelove, one of the 20 good stuff. Jeff really appreciate that. And, uh, time to take a break and we come back into the bottom of the hour news. We're gonna hook up with another Bangles. Legend in that will be Not only a great player, but an author, too. Reggie Williams. It's all coming up. Chick Ludwig 700 wlw talking. It's the number one way we communicate with one another. It's how we express our thoughts and ideas. And while someone to control what you say, Eddie and Rocky, don't they want you to share your views and feelings? Even if it's just to say whatever I say politicians endlessly arguing Congress over some issue AKs myself, Wouldn't it make more sense.
ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"otto graham" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"From more pundits. Let's hear from Mike Greenberg, host of Greenie with my Greenberg. He picks the Chiefs because of the aforementioned Patrick Mahomes. He's agreeing with the goat Patrick Mahomes. You just don't pick against this kid. Not against Brady. Not against that defense. Not in a true road game. Not in the rain. Not if he's in pain. You do not do it, Sam. I am Because he's the best and it's not too soon to say so. Brady is the greatest. It'll take a while for my homes to become that Patrick is the best. If you would quarrel over that for even a second, I ask you. If you were betting on Kansas City in this game And I gave you the choice of quarterbacks in the entire history of the league. Would you swap him out for anyone ever? Anyone ever. Montana at his best Brady at his best, Peyton and his best Unite is at his best. Sammy Baugh. Otto Graham, Anyone you want. Would you swap out Patrick Mahomes right now for any quarterback in the history of the sport. Meanwhile, Keyshawn Johnson on Keyshawn J will and Zubin said. Bruce Arians legacy can change completely with a Super Bowl victory. I think it's Bruce Arians. Bruce Arian has been a coach in this league as interim head coach won a Super Bowl as an assistant head coach at Pittsburgh. He's been in multiple playoff games. He's tutor a number of quarterbacks under his guidance, but in order for him to get into that particular conversation of is he a Hall of Fame coach. He needs to get the Super Bowl in his resume. I mean, he resurrected the Arizona card. Which, for the most part has always been like this win Some games didn't die for 15 years, need a coach to give him a post. He went in there he did that did he decided to retire. He's come back to do the same thing sort of to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. On top of that, J. He's big in the minority space, whether it's hiring women vying blacks, whatever the case may be, he does that He empowers people. So you package all that up that I just said, plus a Super Bowl win. Now you could kind of start to talk about. Him in that breath of is here. Hall of Fame coach. More NBA double overtime needed between the Lakers and Pistons won 26 1 22 is the current score with about a minute and a half remaining in the second extra frame. On Saturday night, the Knicks hosted the Blazers mics picking up the paint dries.
Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"otto graham" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"I am a giant nerd. I am a gigantic football nerd. And so During the last two weeks. You know I start my morning. No, I don't do that. No bathroom humor. Start my morning. Turn on old Super Bowls. That's how I like. That's how I do it. Get up for the Super Bowl. I love old Super Bowls. Turn on old Super Bowls. And this morning I watched Super Bowl 25 You know that game? A lot of people up in Western New York That game, I think is an analog for this game. Now. Tom Brady and Jeff Hostetler don't deserve to be put in the same sentence with each other. He was the key to that game. Giants possessed the ball. For 40 minutes. They kept the ball away. I'm Jim Kelly. The bills and that K gun offense. You know, they have four Hall of Famers on offense and that Super Bowl Jim Kelly Thurman Thomas James Loft in Andre Reed. Bills were double digit favor. They lost the game. Because the Giants converted nine third downs. Otis Anderson at like 32 years old was running back holding off Father Time won the M V P And they dominated time of possession. They kept the high scoring prolific offense on the sidelines. And they won. And that's how I see this game. Tom Brady. Get into third and manageable. Possess the ball. Don't need big, huge plays. Just efficiently. Move the ball downfield. Shorten the game. The clock is your friend. That is the Buccaneers formula to win. Brady so smart. I think he's passed up. Peyton Manning is the most cerebral quarterback in NFL history Animal about Otto Graham and those guys Sammy bother, obviously, before my time, but in my Lifetime. My 30, plus years on planet Earth. There's no one better than Tom Brady. He doesn't have the physicals tools that Patrick Mahomes possesses, or Aaron Rodgers, but he is a better football I Q than them. The thing that Brady is willing to do. The other quarterbacks are not as willing to do. Does not make it about himself. There's no ego in Tom Brady. Well, there's a chip on his shoulder. And just like Michael Jordan did. He looks for doubt to motivate him. He still remembers all the names of the quarterbacks that were picked ahead of him in the 2000 draft. Guys like Spurgeon, when if you're listening, Ken Garment Spurgeon win. Picked out of Tom Brady T. Martin, remember him from Tennessee. Followed. Peyton Manning won a national championship. He was picked ahead of Tom Brady Brady 1/6 round pick. You still can recite all those names. There's no ego in the way he plays and we've seen it throughout the playoffs. Leonard for net. Remember that name? Keep that name in the back of your head here. Make that one. Maybe that's a long shot. M v p. Bet you make Tomorrow because These two teams met in week 12 Leonard for that got the ball three times. Since the playoffs have started. Rushing yards plus receiving yards. He averages over 100 a game. Look at the Saints win. How much for net was a factor in that game. Bucking years didn't really win that game. The Saints beat themselves. Some homes really doesn't beat himself. I get that. The bucket years will win the line of scrimmage on both offense and defense. Their front Line their offensive line their defensive line. Players that will play at the line of scrimmage. That's where the bucks are better than the Chiefs. And I don't care if you from Chiefs Kingdom. Whatever the heck they're announcers. Does Chiefs kingdom like that's kingdom? That's so stupid Chiefs Kingdom, my ass! Okay? Uh, You have you have to admit your offensive line looks like dog vomit going into this game. You're gonna get absolutely bullied and battered at the line of scrimmage. You're going to get killed in the line of scrimmage in this game. You got Mike friggin rumors at left tackle. Got that hasn't been a left tackle in like four years. And you're gonna ask him to slow down. Jason Pierre Paul. Good luck with that. Good luck with that, Mike Remmers. A guy that turned von Miller into an M V P Five years ago in Super Bowl 50. He still has nightmares about this. Brady's good friends with von Miller. He should have von make a phone call to rember is before the game and say, Hey, good luck tomorrow. Maybe you will great. He's not above psychological where warfare My grammar stinks. He's gonna be your left tackle protecting Patrick Mahomes blindside. Mitchell Schwartz has been out for a while, The Chiefs have figured out how to play without him at right tackle, but Now they got Stephan was new ski back in the lineup. God. They got cut by the Steelers back in September. Journeymen. They got journeymen offensive lineman. Journeymen offensive lineman against Shack. Barrett, Jason Pierre Paul My boy. VTV is back in the lineup for Tampa. You see him? Very disruptive against the Packers in the NFC championship game. And Donna can sue. Those inside linebackers David and White are healthy. Have fun with that Kansas City I know. I know you got Travis, Kelsey and Tyree Kill. One of the things though, that has never really One of the things that the Chiefs thought. Was going to make them completely unstoppable offensively that never panned out this year. Clyde Edwards, a lair. Number the first game of.
News Talk 1130 WISN
"otto graham" Discussed on News Talk 1130 WISN
"E? I agree with you? It's gonna be interesting to watch is gonna be close. All right, then you Mike, Ohio. What's up, Mike? Are you? Thanks for taking me. I'm fine. What's going on. When you say Otto Otto Graham is the goat. Uh, man that like we're talking about Joe Nemeth days now. Away before that's you know, that's pretty name If I know Otto Graham. I don't think I don't think 99% of the people listening right now have a clue what you're talking about. Like if I name the 69 Mets lineup world Syria's line up, Nobody's gonna know who had Crane Poole is or Bud Harrelson or Tommy Eiji or clear on Jones. I understand it, but still, it's still the fact that auto played 10 years and 10 years he was in the championship game. And actually, he played in 11 Championships. Just let you know he was actually he played for. I think it was called the Rochester Royals in the MBA at that time, and he was part of the winning team of that, and he also Auto also was a A played defense for three or four years for the Browns to the plate, complete goddess. Yes. Otto's to go. All right. Well, that's my buddy Jim Gray's book is book is phenomenal. I've read it now cover to cover the greatest of all time, and he's not like Tiger Woods is relationship. Ali is relationship. I mean, all these tiger woods is relationship. I mean it just this amazing When you see people at the highest levels, and by the way, they don't always win. You know, it's the thrill of victory the agony of defeat. Tried it, but you know what I love about sports. And thanks for the call. Appreciate it. What I love about sports. And it's really simple. It mirrors everything about life. It just does. The harder you work, the better you're going to do. You're not always gonna win. Sometimes you win, And sometimes you're going to lose and at some points, you know, you gotta take those those hits. Learn to be a gracious winner learn to be a gracious loser. But I think the biggest lesson that everybody learns is you can never work hard enough. There's always something that you can improve upon. One of the ways that over the years that I think I'd like to think hopefully, but hopefully it's true that I tried to be a better host is you know Reed? People's comments about this show and like focus groups or perceptual studies, a man people are brutally brutally honest. And you know if five people hate me because of my a bunch of people hate me because of my views. I can't help that. I'm not changing my views. Some people hate some stylistic this or that. Okay, I listen to it. I have a lot of people say it. What I've discovered is they're usually right. Not usually almost always. Right. John Vermont. You need a team up in Vermont. We'll call you the the Snowflake Snowball franchise. I don't know what's going on. Well, you do have a socialist senators up there. We get a couple of them and they're they're disgusting. And but anyways, I just wanted to call him to say as a career lifelong New England Patriots fan I'm going with Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time. And I myself like you wasn't watching NFL football this year, But when Grady and the Fox got into the playoffs, I've watched each one of the playoff game. And they've been They've been amazing everything. Yeah, they have. I mean, I saw I thought that the line up against Drew Brees and then Rogers. I said, my God, this is like candidates for the Hall of Fame, playing against each other in live Calibers, and it was wonderful. But don't forget you were saying, you know, are one of these Calls was saying he'd been lucky. Well, don't forget those catches that the giant made against their helmets in the terrible were, Yeah. Remember those in your Giants fan so Oh, please. We have seven already. Oh, by the way, you're really pissing off my engineer JC own Jason. You wanna weigh in? Go ahead. Yeah, we want to against Brady. So shut up. All right? Yeah, well, six is larger than two. Oh, ouch! While a shade being thrown on the show today, not good. All right. Thank you. John and Vermont. He's from New England. New England loves Tom Brady, Eric and Arizona. What's up, Eric? Sean. I've been listening to you for a long as I can remember. So I love always loved your shows. Thank you. I am a major Tom Brady fan grew up in New England, now living in Arizona for the Pittsburgh fans. First of all that called a while back. What in the world is Pittsburgh know about beating New England? New England has owned and I mean, zoned out forever. You know, I love sports rivalries. Everyone gets nuts. I'm loving it. Go ahead. It is, but it's not even close. Pittsburgh what wouldn't know what in the world would they know about beating New England? Well, if we go back to the, you know, mean Joe Greene, Terry Bradshaw days. I'm sorry that you know they Franco Harris. I mean, a formidable team. Yeah, But here's Here's the reason why Brady's the goat and I know I heard the guy from auto Gram and all that stuff Brady and I don't think this is arguable. This is not for coming from a fan. Brady has done more with less than any other quarterback in the league. Who, beyond Randy Moss, can anyone name that is a premier Number one receiver Beyond Moss. We're going to say Julian Edelman. Really? I mean, Adelman's great, but he's a third level talent, Emotional gentleman's, but now you're putting him way too far down on the list. No, I mean, he's a slot receiver. He's a slot receiver. He works well in their system. But you know every everybody when they saw gentleman become great. They started imitating him. That's why you got. I think, Sean. Katie's got a few points about who would be a good person to talk about here. One thing here. This is important. I mean, Gronkowski. Oh, come on now. God cows, But Bill Bella check has gotta be like ready to jump off a bridge today..
ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"otto graham" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"So it's football, food and gambling. That is what we've got coming on Sunday. Are you gambling on the game? Do you have a prop? Better, too, that you like? Are you playing the side of the game? The total First touchdown. If you're betting on downhill, ski racing better Mellors kid. Just telling you his son is ridiculously good. You've been skiing since what he's three. Has. Let's not give him a big head here, though. He's not Tom Brady just yet. He's closed. Got a long way to go. But he was he was the problem, Jeff, you know, you get guys like Captain. It's just gonna overrate people. Hey, let him just be able to just grow into it. He's phenomenal now. But you know what? Just give him a few more years, and he's gonna be one of the greatest. Yeah, he needs is given to him time. He needs to take Tom Brady's work ethic and continued day after day to get better. We can tell him he's the greatest already. Not gonna get any better plateau. Honey, When you're back in here, you've got to see the video. This kid looks like Franz Klammer name any of the great skiers. It's ridiculous. Huh? Yeah. Alex Miller put your tickets on him right now for the Olympics and about eight years and then he does become interested. And you go hard pass on Meller Young, the hardest guy. What happened? The Miller kid I was I bought a future sticking out him eight years ago. What happened so terrible? I don't know. Well, Tom Brady be playing in the Super Bowl in eight years. That's the question. How about that? Yes. Mellors kid in the Olympics, or Brady in the Super Bowl, which goes later. Imagine that after the phone lines here we go phone lines or happened Marco's in north Riverside. Mark, Go. What's up? Get Okay, let's talk about the great Michael and the number 23. Michael Phelps 23 gold medals first at 19 the last at 31. That's like if you had to play basketball, but everybody to play left handed, and then you win, But you gotta play right handed and then you win, and then you're in a team sport where you gotta make up for all of your teammates, shortcomings and be the anchor leg in a relay race. And win and Michael Phelps. Just I don't I don't feel like he gets enough credit for being the best athletes. Uh, I think he gets plenty of credit. When did you guys mentioned him? ESPN. There's been articles in the Baltimore Sun or ESPN gives him the snub for being the best athlete. Michael Phelps is an underrated, great athlete, one of the best we'll never see anybody like it again. See Michael Phelps. She's kingdom. Tampa Bay scores first take the over. All right. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. The reason why we don't bring up Michael Phelps Marco's because we like to keep listeners. But But you remember, Honey? When Mark Spitz won seven we went, We'll never see that again. We'll see it again. There will be other great ones that come along. There's gonna be someone's gonna win six titles in eight years, too in the NBA. That's gonna happen. Also, it will happen. Way appreciate what Michael Jordan's done. But as sports evolves when we try to figure out what's next, and what's new things happen, like like this whole thing would Patrick the homes if they can't see Chiefs win and he was a second championship before he's 25? That means the arrows continues to point up. He's got plenty of time to win more if he asked, too. So I I always look forward to what is the next thing? We gotta be excited by the sports fans because that's what makes the sports world go round and round. That's the huge stakes in this Super Bowl. For me, Hoody is that if Tom Brady wins this one he gets to seven. And it's up against my homes right now, who currently has one. If you flip it, though, it could be six and two and all of a sudden we come in here on Monday. Mahomes has won two in a row and at 25 years old to be 26 next year. It doesn't seem so outlandish to be like You know what If anybody's gonna track down Tom Brady, it's going to be the kid who's already got two on his resume. Like in terms of greatest of all time for, you know, NFL supremacy. This. This has a shot to defining it. For, you Know, 10 years down the road, Mama's gonna have to keep you know, adding trophies to his days case. But the truth is, there's a lot at stake for both Tom Brady and Pat Mahomes in this Super Bowl. Seventies is seven is the number I never thought I would see for one quarterback if the Patriots thief a treat, If the If the Brady and the Bucks lose, I will still have Brady as the greats have ever seen because he busted through that Montana versus Elway debate for so many years because Brady is the grace of ever seen, so he falls short. You know what this adds to his legacy? Let's go to the phones. Johnson, Evanston. Hey, John. What's up, man? I just wanted to say that if Brady wins a ring, it'll be his seventh and Otto Graham already won seven rings in 10 years. So let's talk about Brady being the greatest in the Super Bowl era. But out of grand right now with seven rings is the greatest of all time. Thank you. Okay. I appreciate that. You cannot compare the way the game was played with leather helmets back then, to the way the game is played today with the size and speed the strength of the athletes. I just don't think it's comparable, Jonathan. It's good to hear from the the Graham family who's checked in here this morning..
Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"otto graham" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"I know who you are. Curtis. Go ahead. I entered do well, Curtis. I introduced you out. Why would not know why would I know who you are? Now this is there. Yes, When you say it's time, raise the greatest quarterback of his error, there's no debate. When the media say that he's the greatest comeback of all time. That lying? He's probably the fourth best for better walk that. Well, you're from Cleveland. You're gonna tell me about auto grandma tree. Well, he's a quarterback. You allergic to straight championships and went seven green. So the answer is the answer is yes, Curtis, right? Yeah. So here's a guy do 20 years trying to get a seven Marines and other ground has seven reason. 10 years. I have to go. Yeah, but if you say he's great, and I know they change neighbor, never chances to bull. But if you're talking about the goal But the whole of Spain the holograms backyard. You can't know how would he play of the game? He has to go. And I must say that bar star the Green Bay Packers, who went to five straight tension now last, who was called Super Bowl, but he wants five straight cabbages. The second. No, my channel. 14 Easter's Tom Bree is the fourth best for backers. Let's let's let's roll back to the first guy from from where you're at, and let's talk about Otto Graham. Listen. The forties and fifties. It wasn't even considered or called the NFL. How many teams were there? Even 10 teams playing They were in if he was a three time NFL. I don't know what I didn't ask you that Curtis stop. Curtis, stop. I didn't ask. You allow extra stuff. How many teams were even active? We're playing that. I'd venture to say probably no more than eight. I'm just saying it took term break 20 years to get seven Marines and we took all the ground 79 and I will talk on the way in the back yard. Yes, and I've heard you, but I would venture to tell you That all things considered, and it is difficult as we know to compare errors. It is There are more teams, it's more competitive. It's not as easy this so many other factors that that that just go into it, which make what he's done. Find difficult. You can also say and thank you. Curtis for calling from Cleveland. You can also take the approach of As tear along one, said last week. Star along with was right here, he said. You know, all things considered. You look at the error that Tom Brady is playing in doesn't even get touched. Being. He stands back there. He has the ability to throw. He's healthy. He gets the job done. You breathe on the quarterback, and you know it's a penalty boom. Legitimate. Earlier on in the show. We spoke to three time Super Bowl winner Mark Schlereth. Now current analyst He says, the opposite. He says, Yeah, I am impressed by what Tom Brady does at his age. I mean, I feel closer to what Schlereth said as opposed to Teal, but there's this truth and what turn alone said. So you can look Ara to error and just say Oh, well in this era. Oh, yeah, He went toe 10, straight and 17 and 10 years Yeah, for his space. Or you can look at Tom Brady and say all what Well, Tom Brady is doing is it's so much more difficult. Would lead towards that. Wasn't alive. I didn't see auto gram go toe to 10 straight championships and and walk away with seven. I didn't see that. But I could look at what's going on right now and say Oh, well, I guess I can give you some reasons why I think is more difficult. The parody of the league, the amount of teams Obviously, if I'm going from 32 down the eight What are my odds looking like I want to talk about money free agency. There's there's so many issues which make it different. Various calling up from mobile matter fact, Ben he's calling from California. Ben, you want CBS Sports radio? Hey, John, How are you? Good evening. Terrific Bang. Go ahead. Good. So I'm a big 40 Niner fan. So this topic is As you can well, understand it. It's hard topic for me to accept that Brady may be the best quarterback ever, but to put things into perspective here. Brady has played 43 playoff games. That's almost three entire seasons. In addition to your regular 17th season. The game, okay? So I mean, to put things into perspective he's played. Three additional seasons than your average Cleveland Browns or Jacksonville. Jaguars or your Houston Texans. He has personally been more successful than many franchises. Yes, So that I mean, all I'm saying, is it Z in additional three season that he's played that? Some other players have not even Then in the playoffs. No, it's true. And I give you I give you one up, Ben. Thank you for calling California I give you another one. Mentioned this earlier. How about Tom Brady as an individual on his ledger his personal career? He's won 263 games. The Buccaneers as a franchise. The team that got started in 1976. They have 1 287 games Brady to 63. The Buccaneers franchise. To 87. This is a man he's going for his seventh Super Bowl..
Newsradio 700 WLW
"otto graham" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"Bill Massa Rosky, and he was coming around third and kids, right? I talked to one of the You know, kid fans he called in. He said I was in that photo, you know? Yeah. So I'm wondering man effect. That guy's still out there. You know how cool it would be to talk to him? Mel days you couldn't get on the field, man. No, you probably get shot or something. Or somebody would tackle. You're sure? No doubt that you be taken off to the Who's Cal? No tell. Yes. Yeah, the handcuffed and you go down to the jail They have in every every year Ballpark, the holding cell. You're exactly right. Like the vet in Philly, Man. I passed that thing. I didn't want any part of that. But Paul Hoynes is with us from Cleveland dot com and the plain dealer Ban 55 decades Paul covering baseball. In Cleveland. Awesome. That's a long time chick when you say it like that, Yeah, parts of 55 decades, but but Hoynes he I didn't realize Hank Aaron was a huge Cleveland Browns fan. Yeah, there was that struck me is that you know, I remember. You know, I covered the Browns in the in the late seventies. You know what, with red right 88 into the eighties cardiac kids, and they gave me two or 83 was my last year. And, uh, I remember, you know, being a practice a couple of times, and then all the sudden you looked over there got watching practice. It was Hank Aaron. I think really, That's really Hank Aaron, But it turns out he was he was a huge brown, fanny. You know, it started with Marion Motley and Otto Graham and, uh, you know, he kind of went you went to the dog found, you know that he would just said he would disguise himself said that something the dog pile with the rest of the crazies there, and Cleveland crazy. And, uh, it just struck me so cool, you know? And what would he call the PR department like you had in your story and the Indians PR. And when the found raggy the guy knew it was Hank Aaron, Bobby Di Biagio. We've been and we don't work for the Indians for 40 years when he was every Friday morning. You know, Hank would call during football season, you know, and asked for an update on the Browns. You know that before the Internet, So you know, Bobby would save all the papers and the clips from the from the press and the plain dealer and in the news, Harold and give give Hank a scouting report. That is just awesome. If you you see a guy in the dog pound Hey, that looks like here, but it can't be him. Yeah. Oh, wow. But coins see, and you can follow Paul Hoynes at Hoynes E on Twitter and Man. He's just a tweeting machine here with the Cleveland Indians and professional baseball. And Hoynes e gosh, it's almost like the Indians and Red's kind of mirror one another, You know, I mean, you know, with cost savings, but still trying to be competitive. Yeah, You know, I I felt it coming with the Indians. But I thought I thought, you know the Reds were building towards something. You know, I thought they know they're putting together that pitching staff and all the sudden people start flying out of there, and it's just like in Cleveland. Should it in 18 4018. Those the Indians had 130 payroll. 130,000,136 million right now, said 37 Million. I mean, how do you win? How do you win like this? Oh, my gosh. Well and what was and what was the picture is starting rotation. Yeah. Oh, my God. You Unless unless the two years they traded power, Kleven, Jer, Uh, Carrasco and, uh And, uh, they just created Kluver and Kluver. I mean to side young winners. No barcode sound Cincinnati ones aside, young, I think Caracal, you know, had one finished fourth and Cy Young. One year and clever. You're 1 40 games that about For four years with the Indians. So I mean, if you just try to pitching left and right and they have pitching following that, which is a good thing, but I don't know how they're going to score a run ship. Yeah, uh, I went to a Browns training camp at Lakeland Community College and who was there? But Boom, boom, man. See me God short, but I didn't want to mess with the guy at all. But he was awesome. And how about the night that Bauer gets traded? Okay, Dick Williams comes down. And he lets Ah, you know the wild horse. Let him know that he's being traded. We're here. He's in the middle of a fight. Against Pittsburgh and and it's like, Oh, my God, if he sustains an injury, you know it. Zinc could be off. So yet Dick Williams talked about that just blew me away. You know, he was came down to the clubhouse and he's getting ready to, you know, like between innings and hear a fight breaks out. And with the put the pirates. Oh, you know, that's funny, because I know Chris Antonetti, the president of baseball operations with the Indians, and Mike Shernoff, GM and I think Peter was there to Terry Francona. They were watching the same thing. You know, before they had nothing before they had finalized, trader really announced that they're sitting down to watch Puig is in the middle of some brawl. I think that's what did we just do it? Yeah, that's exactly right. Oh, my goodness. Poll. Hoynes, the Cleveland Cleveland dot com and the Plain dealer man, I alerted the Lytle brothers that we were gonna hook up here tonight at 6 35 and Mike was all excited. So, man. It is so much fun speaking with you really appreciate your time, and I hope you and your family. Everybody's safe and healthy up there. All right. Okay. Thanks for having me on buddy. Take care. And I think you'll agree with me that the economy in the psyche of this nation needs baseball. Definitely. Chick. Let's get going. They still don't even know. Spring training. Come like you're right. Crazy. Oh, I know. I know. It's wild. All right, Paul. Thanks so much, brother. All right, But hey, care. You bet. Paul Hoynes phenomenal. Just absolutely phenomenal. We've got to take a break and we'll come back. This is chick Ludwig 700 wlw like McConnell here before you get into your jammies..
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"otto graham" Discussed on WBAP 820AM
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