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"otero family" Discussed on Stuff You Missed in History Class
"In addition to these ancestral ties going back to the initial colonization of of new. Spain like they had a lot of money as a family. Nina was the second child and their oldest daughter and tragedy struck the family before her second birthday. Two brothers from Massachusetts James and Joel Whitney had challenged the Taros claim to some land. Each side was claiming that the other were squatters and the case was making its way through the courts. The Whitney's were staying at a cabin on this contested property after they hit a victim tears, cattle drivers from it. Manuela, Tara went to the cabin with some other men to try to talk things through it seemed like things were being settled amicably. But for reasons that are not entirely clear James Whitney Shot Otero sparking a shootout that killed another man instantly and injured two others including. James Whitney. Manuel Tarot survived long enough to give a statement to the justice of the peace, but he died shortly thereafter. Whitney was later tried for murder and acquitted. There were allegations that he had bribed the judge to give the jury instructions that were skewed in his favor. A really wasn't the first or only land dispute for the immediate or extended Otero. Family Spain had been issuing land grants for centuries before Mexico became independent and there were questions about which of those grants were valid. and. Then, of course, there were also cases in which the government had granted colonists land that had not actually been seated by the indigenous peoples who were living there, and also cases in which the same land had been granted to different people by two different governing bodies complicating all of this, the US government also didn't really recognize grazing land as occupied when disputes went to court the courts generally recognized only land that had cultivated. Crops or a home or another structure on it as actually in use under the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo the United States had agreed to recognize indigenous landholdings and allow indigenous peoples to retain their language culture and customs. But in general courts found in favour of Anglos, more often than Hispanics or indigenous people in these disputes when Manuel was killed in eighteen eighty three, Nina's mother was nineteen and she was pregnant with her third child. The following summer she went to. Philadelphia to look for an english-speaking governess so that her children could grow up fluent in both English and Spanish and be more able to move and both Hispanic and Anglo circles. She hired twenty four year old Mary Elizabeth, Doyle who was Irish? The family knew her as Tetra and worked and lived with them until her death in nineteen, forty, seven in eighteen eighty-six. Nina's mother remarried to Alfred Maurice Berge air known as a M. He was born in Liverpool parents who had come from Italy but were of both French and Jewish ancestry the Lewis had some Jewish ancestry as well although it's not as clear if it was known to the family at the time, they likely converted to Christianity during the Spanish inquisition. Louisa and am had another twelve children together nine of whom survived infancy and as the oldest daughter of this family. Nina. was expected to take a lot of responsibility with her younger siblings and we'll get to that after a sponsor break. At American Public University, we believe that everyone should have access to a great season. It's not a privilege reserved for the few and we believe higher education must come with lower tuition because when more doors open more lives change. American public university within reach without limits online classes start every month learn more at American public you dot com. This episode is brought to you. By Mazda..
"otero family" Discussed on The First Degree
"This day. The Otero Homa searched for evidence and processed, and here's what they found. All four members of the Otero family had died by fixation as a result of strangulation. The phone lines had been cut to eliminate the risk of one of the victims calling for help. None of the victims have been raped, but there was semen on the floor of the basement near where Josephine was found. Nothing evaluates missing and the police believed trophies were likely to be taken from the scene, but it was really hard to be sure at the time. And bindings and gags were used during the. The police worked to flesh out the killers mo in this case. But hindsight is twenty twenty. Looking from today, we can see the patterns. But at the Otero case, there wasn't an established mo yet because this was a serial killers, first taste of murder. But with each kill this killers mo would become more and more defined. Bindings were used to restrain the victims. Torture? Victims were killed over long periods of time. And tormented throughout the experience. Both psychologically and with physical pain. And then finally kill. Their lives choked out of them by officiation. The perpetrator in this case was an is killer. Made evident by the fact, that clear planning went into the ambush of this family. The cutting of the phone lines. Bring binoculars with him to the scene. Tactical approach which allowed him to get them under his control. This color would eventually name himself be T, K A killer motivated by sexual sadism. And while none of his victims were sexually penetrated, we know that killing aroused him proven by the fact that there was semen found in the basement of the Otero home near Josephine's body. PT K had an obsession with bondage. All of his victims were killed by strangulation except for one, and that was only because he was interrupted during the Commission of the Act. Joseph Junior Joseph Senior Julie and Josephine would be the first known victims of one of the most, if not the most terrifying serial killers in modern history. Dennis Rader the K. I man who didn't care who the victim was didn't care. What sex victim was. A manual blamed his depraved crimes on an indescribable force. He called factor X. A man who killed ten people over the course of decades while maintaining the image of a loving father, a church Deacon, a Dogcatcher a boy, Scout, leader, and a doting husband, so how I mean really, how can someone capable of crime so unspeakable actually maintain a perceived sense of normalcy. How can a dichotomy like this exist? I mean really exist within one person. To answer that who better to help us deconstruct the mind of Dennis Rader then one of his own children. Meet our first degree Dennis Raiders Daughter Carrie. I mean my dad was pretty much. My best friend so I did everything with him I garden with Him we took walks with the dogs. We were very very close I was much closer to him than my mom and a lot of ways I pretty much that I couldn't be a boy scout. That was like the one thing I couldn't do temper like. New My parents are new. My family before my dad's arrest knew that he treated us really well that he was like an upstanding guy in the community. And you know they were all in shock. This ashes, just anybody that's not us after that are like. Don't necessarily believe us, but we were really close like we he. My Dad really likes to be outdoors. He would take fishing and camping and my mom. My mom hates the outdoors. She's only outside to go to our car literally like she hates outdoors so I don't even know how they ended up married. They're like it in, but he from when I was tiny like there's photos of fishing like he anything he was doing. He took me and my older brother Long. Raise me basically like a tomboy. Why one of the reasons I'm really strong? He taught me to be strong think he knew maybe things would catch up with him eventually, but he raised me to be very strong and a lot of ways. Carey was born in Park, city Kansas in nineteen, seventy eight, which was four years after her father started. And from Carey's perspective, she was raised by two loving parents, and how to generally healthy childhood. And Ascari, said she and her dad had one of those really special bonds, and they ended up sharing these interests that even carries. Mom didn't approve of that. They kind of kept between that I had grown up reading Stephen King, loving him sharing him with my dad like we would watch all the movies together. We would pass the books back before and I'm not talking about like. My teenage years or my doll years I'm saying like by the time I was like. Ten or eleven I was reading Stephen King like my mom didn't like it and my dad deny it was. There was something we shared. And like other like. Like kiss the girls and you know. We went and saw seven together just to explain some of our relationship. So like I think my dad in hindsight was trying to tell me a little bit about himself, but he also like appreciated that I like that stuff with him, but I think he was also trying to educate me. Prepare me. In two thousand five carry learn that the man she knew as dad. Was One of the world's most notorious sexual thrill killers and modern history. And to remain silent on the subject for nearly fifteen years. She avoided the media and worked tirelessly to process the absolutely consuming trauma. That this information brought onto her. While the pain that followed was varied and vast over the years. There's one particular aspect of carries experience that remains ever frustrating. I get pushed back a lot from the detective that I'm still close to he. He Win I'm having a hard time. I'll reach out. We don't talk very often. But he he likes to remind me he'll say flat out. Your Dad was never your dad every day of your life. That's a lie and thanks buddy like not what I need right now. Dude, so if you talk to criminologists, you talked to detectives. You know FBI and stuff. They're all very hardened. and. The thing is flight. They get it wrong and people even like the really highly educated hardened ones. They don't believe me. I don't think people want except that. Somebody could be so good at times and also be so bad they can't. They can't and even like the criminologist. They refused to believe it. And so somebody like the detective argues he was showing you what he thought that looked like, but that he didn't actually have empathy, and he didn't have loved. And there's and because he's a sexual sadistic psychopath. They're saying he can't love and I'm saying he can do both. In the world of criminal profiling for many decades, there were certain aspects of serial offenders that were thought to be universally shared amongst them characteristics that were rarely, if ever deviated from, we've seen this in the concept of serial killers ability to stop killing victims, and for a long time. It was thought that they couldn't stop once they started. This was considered fact when it came to the world of psychology and profiling serial killers, but in the last two decades we've seen one example after the next, or these assumptions are shattered leaving profiler, scratching their heads, and rewriting the books, another assumption and one we're. We're looking at very closely today. Is this all or nothing concept of empathy or in the case of serial? Killers lack thereof, they say a man can't be a sociopath, and also at the same time feel genuine love compassion for members of his family. The question here is, is it arrogant to believe that with all of the incredible nuance that exists within.
"otero family" Discussed on The First Degree
"Today's case brings us back to January fifteenth of Nineteen, Seventy Four, and if you're listening to this episode, Live on Release Day, we can tell you. It's been exactly forty six years six months and eleven days since a significant day, the movie blazing saddles was in theaters and songs time in a bottle by Jim Crow Chee and the joker by Steve Miller band were topping the charts and the setting for today's case Wichita Kansas. That's the largest city in the state of Kansas and the. LARGEST, city in the United States. Geographically speaking Wichita is located in south. Central Kansas. Nestled against the Arkansas River. In Wichita birthplace of both pizza hut and white castle, making a fast food wonderland of sorts. And another thing that this fine city produced the outlaw. Will Bonnie also known as billy the kid? which saw Kansas has many suburban neighborhoods, the kind of neighborhoods that are perfect for raising a family and that's exactly where Joseph. Otero and his wife Julie planted their roots in decided to raise their children. This family consisted of thirty. Eight Year Old Dad Joseph. Thirty four year, old mom, Giulio Tarot and the Otero children, nine year, old Joseph junior eleven year old Josephine, thirteen year olds Carmen, fourteen year old Danny and fifteen year old Charlie. It's a big wonderful family name on this particular morning of January fifteenth, Matriarch. Julie Woke her children for school at around seven am. The older kids were running late and left school with their dad at seven fifty a m. As Joseph was pulling out of the family's garage to leave driving his children. His son Charley started to close the garage door as the car was pulling out. But Joseph stopped him and told him to leave it open because he was returning right after he drove kids to school, so charlie obliged. She listened to his dad. He got back in the car and off. They went. Sculpture proceeded as normal for the kids and at the end of the day the three older children. Walked tone. And it's not clear whether the children normally walk home, but we do know is at the time. The Otero family only had one working vehicle because there other car had been in an accident and it was at the shot being repaired. When the kids got home, they couldn't open the front door, so Danny went around to the back, and he tried to get the back door open, but that was locked to so danny goes back around to the front of the House, and he somehow manages to unlock the front door. Once they were inside the first thing that children saw was the contents of their mom's purse spilled out onto the living room floor. They look to the kitchen and they see their father's wallet on the Stove. A child's lunchbox was on the kitchen table josephina Joseph Juniors winter coats were on the living room, couch, and an open loaf of bread, a knife and several jars of sandwich spread were on the kitchen table. Some of the pieces of the bread were slathered with Mayo, and some weren't, and it was kind of as if somebody had been interrupted when they're making their sandwiches, and there was also a gallon of milk left out next to the kitchen sink. Next to the half made sandwiches. There was an open can of Pairs. One of the chairs at the kitchen table was pulled out. And there was a pair of men's shoes under the chair. The three kids knew something was just off, and they walked around looking for a sign of either their mom. Their Dad or they're two younger siblings. They went upstairs towards the master bedroom. And that's where they made a horrifying discovery. They saw their parents lifeless bodies. The frantic children attempted to cut the rope from around their mom's neck and the ropes around their father's wrists. They removed the gag from their MOM's mouth with a set of toenail clippers and tried to revive her. Danny then went to get a knife to try to cut the ropes off of his father's hands. And there was also a belt around his father's throat, which loosened and he then tried to revive him. But his father's chest was just very stiff. Danny ran to the phone to call for help. But when he picked up the receiver at the line is dead. So we started out of the house, found neighbor, and they called the police. When the police arrived at the scene, it was three forty pm, and they were met by Charlie. Who was just completely distraught? He told him that his parents were inside. There were in their bedroom and they were tied up. The police told us three children to stay outside and stay calm and try to comfort them. Please entered the home. and. It was neat orderly. The only thing out of place that stuck out to them initially was this. person the floor in his wallet on the Stove, and obviously these things in the kitchen, which made it seem like somebody had been interrupted making lunch for these children. Officers moved through the house towards the master bedroom. They. Push the door open at approached shows, if senior who is clearly deceased and lying on the floor of the master bedroom. There is and moved to a piece of white rope and a large butcher knife that laid next to him. Julia. Tara, was on the bed. Her legs were hanging off the side, slightly bent. Julia was wearing jeans a housecoat. Her feet were bound the ankles. She'd indentations around her neck, and there was one piece of rope tied to the north corner of the bed. There was blood around her nose and around her mouth. Neither Julia or Joseph had a pulse. Julie's hands were still tied behind her back, and there was a white gag rules to her head, which was stained with her blood. And when Charlie Danny and Carmen their three children were questioned by arriving officers. They told them that they lived at this home with their parents in there too little siblings, Josephine and Joseph Junior and they didn't know where they were. The older siblings became distraught over the idea of having to tell the babies of the family that their parents had been killed, but that was something that they'd never actually have to do. Because the reality of the nightmare that was unfolding in real time that morning was about to get so much worse than anyone on the scene could have imagined. Inside the home, one of the officers was attempting to clear the house room by room, making sure the perpetrator who attacked Julian Joseph senior word no longer on the premises. And it's in an upstairs bedroom that this officer Shirley made one of the most horrific and haunting discoveries of his entire life. Through me entered was clearly the bedroom of two children, there were bunk beds and boys toys everywhere. And in the center of the floor, was the lifeless body of Joseph Otero, junior he was wearing his school close a long sleeved button up shirt, jeans and socks. And, we are going to describe his injuries because Joseph Junior was nine years old, and we're not here to describe injuries inflicted on children, gratuitous or detail. But it wouldn't be long before. Four horrifying discovery in this home was about to be made. As the search of the home continued. What are the officers descended the stairs to the basement. And it was there that they found the body of eleven year old Josephine. Like the case of Joseph Junior rocketed, discuss her injuries or the circumstances under which her life was cruelly taken. As News, the massacre spread to say the community was shocked. Devastated horrified doesn't begin to describe the kind of impact. A crime like this has on a neighborhood. And many of the most grizzled police officers will never see examples of such cruelty across thirty year careers. The Tara home was seals off and law. Enforcement set up a command post an old school across the street from the House. It was revealed that the families Brown nineteen sixty eight Vista cruiser station wagon was missing from the garage, but it was found later that same day in the parking lot of a grocery store. Then the search for the person who slaughtered this family commenced. In the thing is. Is that no one on the scene that day? Realize that this search would be one that would stretch over more than three decades, because the murder of his family be the first four murders of ten that terrorized and continue to haunt the suburbs of Wichita Kansas to.
"otero family" Discussed on 20/20
"<music> the bodies of Joseph Otero his wife Julie their daughter Josephine and their son Joseph the second were discovered in their east Wichita home. The victims had been bound gagged and strangled with a cord. We have a quadruple homicide in a family neighborhood in Wichita Kansas in the middle of America that just doesn't happen. People in Wichita didn't know who it was. We didn't know what kind of person would do that. We I just wanted him behind bars and I understand how somebody could be so protective him his own children could murder other children. Just an incredible ability to compartmentalize raider called holiday cubing the way the cubing works is you have multiple sized to cube when he's on the face of it those size are all part of him but he's not aware of his and see them he only is able to look lookout from one face but he can switch it very fluidly to the next side of a cube if he needs to whatever the situation calls for he could leave a crime scene. Come home clean up go to bed get up and start another day but even when he wasn't killing he was still looking for the possibility killers like Dennis rader other called power control killers and I love the power they love the control and they want the attention. What's a natural way to get attention without? Identifying yourself is to interact call the media on October twenty second nineteen seventy four dawn granger who was a columnist for the Wichita Eagle received a phone call from sleighs claiming to be btk. Hey this guy tells him to look in the city library. Tells him very specific goes the engineering such infect tells him the shelf in the book. Look for the police. Go find find the book and there is a letter that describes the Otero murders in detail. The police did pick up somebody three guys for the Otero murders. This was in the newspaper. DOC and Raider was upset. He didn't want someone else to get credit for his murders. He's somebody who who will eat seeks attention and so when he's not getting it it upsets him because his identity in life is committing these crimes he wanted to show that he knew who killed the Taros he had done it alone. He knew all the details P proved that by writing the details out point for point where each one of the terrorists were found in the house what what they were wearing. They knew it had to be him because nobody had that level of detail so it's kind of like I'm your guy which are not going to figure out who I am. In the letter he suggests the MONIKER bt K. which would stand for fine torture kill. It was his nom de Plume and that's what he wanted to be called because that's what he did. He said I liked to bind them. I like to torture them and I'd like to kill them. In July of Nineteen seventy-five five raider became a father for the first time by brothers three years older than me then suddenly he's now a real family. He and his wife are overjoyed to have a child he was working for a security company. You got to be in people's homes to my dad like the the person that committed breaking and entering and stock people I would imagine that Sorta gave him that side of him like a thrill but then he starts getting a a little bit restless from nineteen seventy four to nineteen seventy seven he will kill three more women a college student named Kathryn bright a mother of three named Shirley Fan in a twenty five year rolled named Nancy Fox. I was born in Seventy eight and my dad murdered or young woman when my mom was three months pregnant with me. That kind of stuff happens to somebody else but not someone in your the family my name's Beverley Fox and Nancy and I were sisters. Nancy Fox was a hard working young lady worked to John. She lived by herself in duplex. What she wanted was to get married to have kids and have a family? She loved kids. How did he find her? How did he pick her out? Why Nancy Dennis Reid rule describe that key saw and notice Nancy Fox when she was getting mail one day this was what he called his perfect required? This case Nancy's case went exactly how he planted. Nobody else's in the house. She wasn't expecting anybody else. <hes> he was not going to get interrupted. This one worked out way his fantasies happened in his head. The next day reiter did something unusual. He found a phone booth and he called in the murder of Nancy Fox in the caller said reporting a homicide police went to that address and found Nancy Fox dead bound and strangled on her bed <music> so we knew heard this. Did it sound like your father. You can hear like that clip way. My father die like I that was another like these things to start clicking. Oh my God really is my father. Raider has now struck a number of times in a way that can be connected and yet he's not getting the press that he's seeing other. Serial killers getting Ted Bundy as been in the news Ted Bundy's charged with the murder of to Florida State University coeds and is suspected in one thousand nine hundred other murders in western states. He wants to know why they're not recognizing that. He is among the elite serial killers he sent a letter letter to cake TV which was an A._B._C. affiliate in Wichita this morning he was contacted by the person who police say they believe murdered four members of the Joseph Otero family the litter and seventy two cake TV came in and through the mail just as a normal letter from a viewer it appeared and once it was opened. We knew we had something unusual began today's letter with a question. How many do I have to kill before I get a name in the paper paper or some national attention letter indicated on no uncertain terms? When was he going to get some national attention that there were seven aground? There were many more to go. He says he is compelled to kill by what he calls factor Dr X.. In this letter he describes a factor acts and he describes is what drives him he. Lets them know that he can't stop that. The factor x makes him want to kill and he's going to keep killing the early communications nations were more about exerting control and terrorizing wichita with us right now is chief of police Richard Runyon chief Romanian had to give an announcement to the public to give them a warning that there was a serial killer in our community. What kind of leads the honestly we have no solid leads at all? We didn't know that all of the murders were related when he announced that canal. You definitely know that there's a serial killer on the prowl. It was overwhelming Har- at who is this person after the Fox murder. He didn't kill anyone again for eight years. The chief does.
"otero family" Discussed on The Thinking Atheist
"The guy was on staff. He was given access to the entire flock authority over the flock under the roof at Christ Lutheran church and under the all knowing I of God. Now, how would how could God allow a serial torturer and murderer to exist and survive and thrive and move freely inside the walls of a holy place like his own house. God's own holy house, a sanctuary. Another mighty fortress in itself. What does the bible say my frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place when I was woven together and the depths of the earth your eyes saw my unformed body all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be how precious to me are your thoughts. God how vast is the some of them were to count them. They would outnumber the grains of sand when I awake. I am still with you some one thirty nine fifteen and sixty. You see if you believe this passage, you hold to a fact, quote, unquote fact that God, new marine hedge? I mean, he newer completely before she was born before she was ever formed before she was ever thought about before the creation of the earth L before the creation of the universe. God had already seen every second of her life play out, including those terrible on thinkable unspeakable last seconds, and the Macab aftermath the sick recording of the dead within the walls and halls of Christ Lutheran church after hours God knew all the victims. God knew every victim, including the young kids who'd been bound and tortured and killed and with unlimited power stored up inside his mighty hand. He had the power to see to prevent to warn to intervene to save to heal to revive. God's will was to do nothing. You know that God was receiving prayers. From people grieving families praying for God's help the police might have prayed for some kind of revelation. You know, a break in the case. So that they could make the madness end. Give us a clue and yet over thirty years would go by after Dennis raiders first murder before it was men and women not God. But men and women who discovered and exposed and arrested and tried and convicted B t k. In my own head. I try to think about what divine intervention might look like. Imagine what an almighty God might have done with just the most minimal of effort. Imagine the day of the first murder was January fifteenth nineteen seventy four the Otero family. They were inside their house. Dennis Rader made his way inside and murdered the family. Imagine if the silent witness had whispered to any one of those four people kill that day. Hey, there's danger. There's danger don't answer the door. Call the cops getaway walkaway get out the back door open a window. Imagine if God used his massive universe shaking power to achieve just the slightest of preventions, you know, causing Dennis Rader to sprain his ankle as he was walking toward the door to seal up miraculously seal up the doors and windows. So the Dennis Rader could not get in perhaps influencing a police officer to turn left instead of right? So he might cross Dennis raiders path before he got to the house give Reiter the flu, right? Give him. Some kind of sickness how the old Testament's loaded with examples of God giving stiffness and disease to people. He could have given Dennis Rader flu symptoms. So he wouldn't have the strength. Th to hurt anybody. You know for a God who knows no limitations whatsoever. The possibilities are endless and yet for a mother and a father and two children nine and eleven. God would not be there. Mighty fortress. God would see all of these horrors unfold and eat hear the cries for help, and he would possess the ability to intervene and yet he would remain the silent witness. Now as moral creatures. We have to process this. Within the church. It's common for people to blame themselves either directly or indirectly. And here's how this works. The church is very good at teaching people to do this, by the way, people come to a logical perversion that this nine year old DOE terro boy was old enough to have reached the age of accountability for sin..
"otero family" Discussed on Serial Killers
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Blue apron, a better way to cook. Now back to the story. By the fall of nineteen seventy four. Dennis Rader had claimed his first five victims in Wichita, Kansas. In October, he left a mocking letter to police and reveal the nickname. He had chosen for himself, be TK, bind, torture, kill. He also kept up his persona as an ordinary citizen of Wichita. He continued to attend college classes in the fall of nineteen seventy four and started working for ADT security services. Reiter was amused to find himself installing security systems in the homes of people frayed of the Btk killer. Rader also made sure to keep playing the role of loving husband. He later claimed author and professor of criminal psychology, Catherine Ramsland that he genuinely cared about his wife and enjoyed the sex life, but his fantasy stuff strangling women were still more important to him than anything else. Ramsland notes that fantasy was a crucial coping mechanism for raider it afforded him in escape from life's everyday. Dresses while some of us may play video games or go for a hike to stave off boredom, Reiter liked to tie up dolls or draw frightened women bound up with rope as part of his fantasies. He eventually started taking pictures of himself tied up as though he was his own victim, at least once he encased himself in plastic and pretended to bury himself alive in a freshly dug grave. This link between fantasy and serial murder isn't unique to raider either criminology professor, Scott bun notes that many serial killers have intense fantasy lives. The imagine killing their victims as a way of ramping up to committing murder in real life. Raider hid these fantasies from Paula pretending he was satisfied with their marriage and in an odd way. He was they were an otherwise normal couple in late nineteen, seventy four. She became pregnant with their first son, Brian who was born in July of nineteen seventy-five policy stated home with the new baby. While raider supported the family through his work at ADT. But even though he acted like a contented family man in public Reiter was always looking for his next victim. He spent the next two years stalking women in Wichita at in March of nineteen seventy seven. He's zeroed in on his next project. Raider was still obsessed with the number three. And he believed March was a good month for his next kill because it was the third month of the year because intended target that day was a woman who lived at twelve, oh seven, south Greenwood. He nicknamed her project green on March seventeenth nineteen, seventy seven raider knocked on the woman's front door. His hit kit was hidden in a briefcase, but she didn't answer down but not out raider wander, the neighborhood looking for different victim on south hydraulic street. He ran into a five year old boy named Steven van who was bringing his mother Shirley van a can of soup from the. Grocery store for lunch. The whole family had come down with the flu and surely wasn't well enough to run to the store herself. Raider pondered whether the boy's mother could be as substitute target. He showed Stephen a photo of Paula and his young son, Brian, he claimed they were missing and asked if Steven it's seen them. It's not clear why Reiter bothered with such an elaborate lie. Since he could have just followed the child home, perhaps he simply enjoyed role playing as detective. Nonplus. Stephen told him that he hadn't seen the people in the photo Reiter press the child and said, are you sure look again, but the little boy repeated, no, sir. And he continued down the street to his home. Raider kept an eye in the boys. He knocked on the door of another possible victim. He'd been talking Cheryl Gilmore. He later told police that he had nicknamed Cheryl project blackout because she frequented a bar with that name. But Cheryl didn't answer as he waited on her. Stoop raider watched. Year old. Stephen enter the house, two doors down at thirteen, eleven south hydraulic. The boys address had a three in it. Raiders favourite number. He decided to go for it at the von house five year old. Stephen didn't feel up to playing with his eight-year-old brother, but or his four year old sister, Stephanie. He lay in his mother Shirley's bed to keep company until he heard Reiter knocking Stephen Budd raced each other to the front door. The five year old won the race in a moment that he would regret forever. Stephen opened the door to find raider staring down at him. Reiter told the kids that he was a private detective when their mother surely dragged yourself out of bed to see who was out the door. Rada grew excited. He repeated the light of Shirley and stepped inside the house. As soon as he was inside and the door was shut. Raider quickly drew all the blinds in the living room and pulled out his gun. Shirley begged raider not to hurt her or the kids and. Raider quickly came up with a story to calmer down. He claimed that he just wanted to tie Shirley up and take bondage pictures. If she cooperated, everyone would be fine. The phone rang, but raider ordered the family not to answer the phone Shirley. Once again begged raider not to hurt her kids, but he ignored her. He took rope out of his briefcase and tried to tie up. But when the eight year old cried raider, decided it was too much trouble to tie up each of Shirley's three children individually, and the phone call began to worry him. Someone might be on their way to the Viann house. He hurriedly stuck bud Stephen and Stephanie in the bathroom. He chucked blankets and toys into the bathroom to keep the kids busy. Then quickly tied the bathroom door, shut with rope, raider hoped. He didn't have to rush everything too much if he had time to spare, he wanted to suffocate the young boys with plastic bags and strangle for your old. Stephanie raider dragged Shirley into the bedroom away. Mhm. Her sobbing children. She didn't fight back just really hoping if she cooperated that raider would rape her and leave. It wasn't until raider placed a bag over her head and tied the rope around her neck that surely realized she was about to tie the van. Children were frantic. They knew their mother was endanger, but they didn't know how to help her five year old. Stephen screamed that he was going to untie the rope, keeping the bathroom door closed and stop Reiter from hurting his mother, but raider warned the child that he shoot him in the head. Stephen Budd and Stephanie were too terrified to leave the bathroom. They wept and pounded their fists uselessly against the door as raider strangled, their mother as a psychopath raider felt no guilt over his actions. It didn't bother him at all to hear. The children's cries, echoing from the neighbouring room. In fact, it only confirmed his total control over the situation after Shirley was dead. Raider thought about killing the three young children's. Still trapped in the bathroom, but his thoughts kept returning to the phone call that surely had received earlier. He decided not to chance it. Raider grabbed two pairs of Shirley's underwear as trophies and fled the home eventually eight-year-old bud smashed open the bathroom window. So the three siblings could escape to the yard. The children ran through the unlocked front door to their mother's bedroom only to discover her dead in her bed, hysterical the children race to their neighbors house, and the neighbor called the police Reiter was worried that the children would be able to identify him. But the descriptions the children gave weren't enough for the cops to track Reiter down. However, several officers did notice similarities between Shirley's death and the murders of the Otero family. Both had been bound up with intricate knots and in both crime scenes, the victims were suffocated with bags over their heads, but they still didn't have enough information to find Reiter. He was so satisfied after getting away with Shirley's death. That he wrote a children's rhyme, curly locks, curly locks and transformed it into a typo ridden celebration of his successful murder. Quote, surely locks, surely locks will be mine, thou shalt not scream, not yet feel the line, but lay in a cushion and think of me and death and how it is going to be and quote raider had now killed six people, and he was starting to feel invincible. Author. Catherine Ramsland describes raider as suffering from a condition. She calls narcissistic immunity essentially like many other serial killers we've seen on the show. Reiter became convinced that he was smarter than the detectives trying to catch him. He believed he could get away with anything behi- from killing Shirley. Viann didn't last long and raider spent the rest of nineteen seventy seven looking for his next victim. He often scoped out women during the day while installing security systems for ADT in the winter of nineteen hundred. Seventy-seven raider spotted his next target twenty five year old, Nancy FOX. He was pleased to learn that Nancy lived alone at eight, forty three, south Pershing. That meant that would hopefully be no kids. Dogs siblings or husbands to contend with he nicknames project Foxtail or FOX hunt after Nancy surname. On December eighth, he warned his wife. He would be studying late at the library. He spent a couple of hours. They're working on a paper for one of his college classes, but around nine pm. He left the library and drove to Nancy's duplex with his hit kit. He knocked on ANSI store to make sure she wasn't home. Then went back and cut the phone line. He smashed open a window and scrambled into the apartment where he waited for her to return from her evening shift at health, burn jewelers. He'd memorized her entire schedule and knew precisely what time she would arrive home raider drank a glass of water. A traditionally it started when he murdered the tarot family, he put Nancy's phone to his ear to double check that it was dead right. Then Nancy walked into her apartment. We don't know for sure how Nancy reacted when she spotted raider in her living room. In one version of raiders story, Nancy was defiant when raider pulled a gun on her. Another version of the story. Nancy was terrified from the gecko. In all versions raider told Nancy that he just wanted to have sex with her and then let her go, Nancy then asked to use the bathroom. I when Nazi came out of the bathroom raider handcuffed her and forced her to lie face down on the bed. Then he strangled her with a belt until she fell unconscious, but raider wasn't done. He derived special pleasure out of psychologically torturing his victims and wanted to prolong Nancy's agony as much as possible. He waited until Nancy stirred then leaned close to her ear and whispered that he was BT Kay. He already killed six victims, and now it was Nancy stern, Nancy fought desperately, but she wasn't strong enough to throw raider off. He strangled her to death as raider watch, Nancy, take her final breaths. He masturbated into her blue nightgown Reiter than cleaned up the apartment. He also stole Nancy's close. Jewelry and her driver's license as trophies. He was proud of this murder where everything had gone according to plan so much so that he couldn't wait for someone to discover his perfect crime scene. The next day he called the police on himself. We'll talk about that phone call right after this. 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"otero family" Discussed on 790 KABC
"Go to KABC dot com so not long, ago huge news was broken here in the state of California when authorities arrested the alleged Golden State killer man have been on the loose for over four decades killed murdered twelve people Ransacked raped bludgeoned the sky was a nightmare and they got him, with DNA Bravo and this wasn't the. First time that a. Serial killer from that era has been caught years after the killing began Dennis Rader was one. Of the worst that I can think of the grim sleeper the grim, sleeper Yep Yeah it's pretty amazing how that happens in California has. Seen a bunch of them the, freeway killers, were California. Killers Richard Ramirez the nightstop soccer so a lot of. Serial killer killing. Was Florida right, it was, Utah Colorado he was quite the mass serial. Killer but he. Died in Florida becau, because? He killed a twelve year old little girl named Kimberly. Leach I, know everything about serial killers. Andrew Cunanan Andrew Cunanan I don't really. Consider him a serial killer per se I don't know I think yes he. Was but he killed. A. Guy in, a, truck he killed it he wanted for Saatchi right, that's serial killers as Dennis Rader stalked the. Otero family I mean. This family was getting up it was seven thirty in the morning. Little boy lets the dog out raider walks in kills the whole family mother father Josephine was eleven he I mean. I'm, I wish that guy wish they fried his ass but they they don't have, the death penalty? There So he's in jail. Still well one expert says that serial killing is coded into our DNA he's. Filmmaker area investigative historian. And. Author of, the new book sons of Cain history of serial killers, Peter Brodsky, Peter thanks so much for joining. Us Hi thanks for. Having me on Peter you're you're This information is, a little scary because you're saying all, of us we we have it in our DNA? But what's? The, difference between, a John Phillips then Dennis Rader well you know we. Have, to be serial killers before we. Became, civilized Is. This the human species there's been around you know we think perhaps, as long as a million years but, we've only been civilized in the last fourteen thousand years that? We've, developed agriculture, developed cities and began to live kind of an organized Well we think serial killers as people that methodically go out and, and Brookshire innocent people which they are whereas. Back. Then you think well prehistoric, times are came in they didn't to eat to, defend they were, they couldn't even communicate right so they weren't going out schilling. People just for, the thrill of, it not for the thrill of the. Need to okay, and so my argument is is that we all have in our basic psychology our basic makeup we still have that instinct to be able to, do that but, of, course, you know civilization. No longer requires us to do that but? You know, it's only been fourteen thousand years is gonna take, a long time for us to shed that and and so we're essentially born with that ability but good socialization stable parenting good family upbringing Teach us not, to act on those impulses so you know serial, killers for various, reasons that forensic psychologists and psychiatrists are trying to understand they. Have still those, instincts highly developed, in uninhibited so my argument essentially is. Is that all, of us at the infantile stage are unmade as serial killers rather than you know being made into serial killers you believe that we could see, a spike in, serial, killing, why is that Well because you know what. The mystery of for a lot of serial homicide historians this is why did we. Have this surge, of serial, killings in the last three decades of the twentieth century from. Nineteen seventy-two about nineteen ninety nine almost eighty, percent of serial killers made their appearance in. In in in, the United States in that in that century so you're y that period and. We've often societas it with things that were happening. In the sixties you know, the revolutionary nineteen sixties ahead in this took nineteen seventies and so forth the problem is of course, is that serial killers there, is often formed in their childhood sometimes when are as youngest. Five years old If, you look at serial killers not wave with the ten bodies. John Wayne gay sees the green river killer Oh yeah. Green river killer that wasn't he here up in Portland he killed, us prostitutes right that's right forty nine one And, then forget him Jeffrey Dahmer DNA that's right. That's right God bless TNA. Those guys, you've got to realize that. Their fantasies their trauma stuff, may have led them, to? That's to. Those. Fantasies were Formed approximately twenty to twenty five years. Before they started. Killing I. Have a. Question and it's not to. Blame the mom let me tell you, but a lot of them had very strange. Issues with their mothers Lutely And then they started. As a theory for that okay I want to hear that. And then they also, start abusing animals locally in the street when they were kids so yeah What's. Your, theory about the moms so. The month is is that if you have a very dominant mom which many of. Them, have You boys need to go she ate this kind of independence from their mom and so if you have a, overbearing mom is you try to become. More independent, of her and sale in that you develop a. Rage towards not only your mother. But you're the female figure in? General I mean I I can name two serial killers right away let's, kill Rome mothers Edmund Kemper Lucas they both kill Henry Lucas I just read watched the count why that was oh my God, that's horrible the farm right and he had the mother and the yeah oh my God like this boy, how do you want to like don't. You lock your doors and have a double alarm at night when you read this study. This as you Scott because I listened to the. I've I've watched all the documentaries and I've read the book since I grew up in Canada where Clifford Olson was the big serial killer up there and the Canadian, government paid him to tell his you. Know where, the bodies are buried he got paid one hundred. Thousand dollars like thirty. Years ago Big chunk of change Then I also grew up. With the Scarborough rapist I lived in Burlington where he, objected a Leslie Mahaffy Bernardo and Karla Homolka by. The way she's out she has three. Kids with, her, lawyer, her lawyers. Brother disgusting and disgraceful Canadian Justice, is a complete. Joke but I digress you have a. Similar case, in California Charlene gala go exactly what Karla Homolka was released killed many more husbands the Gallegos and she's been out living in San. Francisco doing charity. Work oh my God how do I? Not know this case Charlene Gallego? What's your husband's name I've got the husband's name? But they. Were the legal okay Killed three seven, eleven young girls oh my God, murder I will of course testified against her husband. Of, course still in she's been out, for years, and, years well that's exactly like Carla and they they said oh battered woman syndrome until they found the tapes when they were demolishing. The house that shows that. She was. Alone with the girls she could have helped them she didn't and she's, she's out free disturbing and fascinating stuff is sons of Cain a history. Of serial. Killers from the stone age to. The president tomorrow Peter Brodsky thanks so much, for stopping. By thanks for having me on fascinating stuff Peter thank you I will definitely be getting this book jillions tweet of the, day up next seven ninety. KABC He has dependable traffic when you need it the most the big trouble spots still the eastbound ninety one connector to. The north six zero five. 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"otero family" Discussed on 790 KABC
"And went to private dna databases to employ the same techniques so it's been a great leap forward for law enforcement great valuable investment to solve these cases and they're going to become more and more routine so we're in a good state here in terms of california that's not that that's another story in terms of dna using dna across the country everyone's got it now prosecutors law enforcement legislators public safety gets this this is a for us for people that are into the crime and punishment that want justice it's great but then you get these odd people to me i don't get it that worry about the rights of a of a serial killer if you think about you know these people they have no regard some of them like dennis rader killed eleven year old girl among many he killed a healthy whites out the otero family and yet people i don't know what is inside them and they bitch about it instead of saying oh my god we caught a serial killer do you think you the aclu and others have advanced the privacy concerns fighting against legislation fighting against initiatives to establish all on dna databases i don't quite get their concerns i don't either obviously there have to be privacy protections and those are built into the law there's built into california's all fell and dna database law which is really well written it was really done by the orange county da's office the la kennedy's office and to a certain extent the attorney general's office under former attorney general bill lockyer so now they can raise your privacy concerns but publish general rejected those arguments but we concerned about murderer gone unpunished undetected for so long oh the relative of the serb murderer who led to that server murders apprehension those privacy concerns addressed appropriately as they have been in the law pale by comparison spalding these cases absolute last question before you go district attorney cooley what is going to change in terms of law enforcement and the focus and the intensity that they place on cold case files because of this dna technology are are that's been going on for years when i was elected in two thousand and two thousand one ice tablist both of fringe science section to train law enforcement and prosecutors i established a unit to address coal cases we've partnered up with lapd and other kind of sheriff's department and they dedicated personnel and there's been many many many cases solved in la county because of the focus was put on it back as early as two thousand one it's going to be a growing phenomenon a good non good republic safety and good for justice and bringing people like the golden state killer to justice after so many years steve cooley former district attorney in los angeles county thanks so much for joining us we appreciate your time my pleasure keep doing the good work thank you think he was referring to me you know i want to mention because when he was doing his job is how much easier would it have been if there was the d the the evidence that we have now you know it would have made these job so much easier as opposed to you have to deal with the technology that you have yeah he must look at those and go it's like me when i see these weather girls doing the whatever snappers with that doppler five thousand million when i started it was a doppler twenty but i may do dammit there are more ping pong balls at the big spin gillians tweet of the day up next seven ninety kabc has.
"otero family" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins
"I started to sign off his journal entries with the letters btk buying torture kill in october 1974 dennis still remain which taught eagle every day for references to his crimes read something to pissed off three guys in jail already for other crimes start trying to take credit for the otero family merce so dennis puts a call into columist don granger he says listen and listen good i'm only going to say this once there is a letter about the otero case in a book in the public library and then he told dawn which book it was a hung up the phone the crazy bassara just gotten away claimed with five murders and now he's risking getting caught just so some other deuce bags don't get credit for his murders the ego an arrogance of this prick i will dennis reiter had left a letter in a selfpublished book he had written called dennis raiders guide to bondage in torture and the police never even bothered to question of seem to obvious i guess years later they discover that one of the chapters was actually called how to kill people in wichita and get away with it but they never checked lazy lazy work no of course it never happened cost stop it the book vote was called applied engineering mechanics and it was written by who gives a shit it sounds terrible and here's what lettered inside written by deniz said said i write this letter to you for the sake of the taxpayer as well as your time but those three dude you have in custody are just talking to get publicity for the oh tero murders they know nothing at all i did it by myself and with no one's help there has been no talk either let's put it straight the letter than accurately describes the positions of all four otero bodies names.
"otero family" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins
"Shake it in urges keeps growing stronger and you you actually find your cell stocking potential victims planning a murder y you know it's inevitable throw yourself off a fucking built slit your wrist shoot yourself in the head jump into a pool with live sell you know some severed telephone wire before you snuffed a life out of someone who's done nothing to you go get help first goal to help vailable but if not the works maybe used the monster i think they exist i think they're beyond rehabilitation i'm sure i'm gonna get some emails for that but i'm not backing off that may i i just i think some people are pure hate to pure mayhem pure whatever you want to call evil and death is the only cure for their disease now just like you shouldn't let a rabid dog roma kids playground you shouldn't litter homicide obsessed monster rome any place outside the walls at a prison or even better just put him in the dirt well dentist reiter he did he didn't he didn't kill himself unfortunately didn't get caught after snuffing out four members the otero family he went back to drive his wife to work look for new job fantasise about new people to kill and the only bright spot in all of this is that he wasn't able to get a good solid night's sleep courtesy of today sponsored mattresses as that for transition yes two today's timesuck has brought to you by leesa mattress is the socially conscious mattress company lisa is an innovative directtoconsumer online mattress brand driven by the mission to provide a better place to sleep for everybody for every ten mattresses lisa cells they donate one to a shelter dennis reiter would never do that now but they do through their one 10 program lisa also plants one tree for every mattress sold donates one percent of each employees time to volunteer for local causes would be dekalb done out of he was run at leesamattress his got him while he would and best of all lease matches or so comfortable i've been sleeping online for weeks now and i sleep heart no middle of the night bathroom breaks even which is you know kind of new for me.