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Episode 7: Sandhan: A Talk About Osho and the Spirituality of Abundance

The Pause with Dawna

35:47 min | 2 years ago

Episode 7: Sandhan: A Talk About Osho and the Spirituality of Abundance

"Hello. And welcome again to another episode of the pause podcast. I'm your hostess Donna Kreis for this energetic pause and fireside chat each week. I welcome new guest from my ever expanding tripe to discuss a variety of spiritually related topics now before we get started. I just wanted to say something about the recording your about to listen to, I may sound nervous and the reason for that is I was nervous. My guest, who you'll meet in just a moment is someone who I've admired for a long time now. So when she agreed to be a guest on the podcast. I was excited and nervous all at the same time. So if I sound a little bit tongue tied. That's why now without further ado on with the show. So today on the 'cause I have with me, sandy on and I discovered sand, Dan about five six five six years ago. She was a co hostess on the expanding times podcast. And after that we connected as friends on Facebook back in two thousand thirteen and I've been just since then I've just been so inspired by you. And thank you for joining me. Thank you so much. Unblushing here. I've always been fascinated with you as a personality. But recently, I discovered that you were also a I don't know, the right wording disciple of Osho a good it on. And maybe on explain a little bit. What that means notion? Okay. Still. Okay. How did your before that? How did your spiritual journey began on a conscious level? Would you say? Goodness. Really? Brought up in a county. Nice family in England, and my father became quite wealthy home for now. He had his own business. And so, you know, I had a nice middle class upbringing. My parents sent me what we call the public's over his private school. The boarding already I was like, I hated it just, you know, kind of a nice meek, go a little tomboy with an older brother, who's very intelligent. And he was also at school. But I just I got something I don't know. It was a moving years ago is kind of a bit like had Malcolm McDowell in the lines of clockwork orange. It was cold if and it was a bad school boys, that had, like Bellion school at really me as I got into my kind of staying in fifteen sixteen years old like I fit here, but it really you know, that was kind of the unfolding, then I stuck to address. It became a bit of a pulse smokers. I had my first joins sixteen. Oh, there's something else going on here. You know, you've got to remember is about time of Woodstock, I'm people. On the very useful, sixty five but, you know, would still beyond of line is the time of festivals experimenting with the internet to university. I really fit there. I, I didn't want to go to university. My father was domineering names, anyone with brain, gene him. I really wanted to, to more of technical kind of college lands know applicable skills to seek them out of university. You better degrading. What do I do? Maybe things have changed today. United not fifteen universities with a bad law. We spent a lot of smoking them. Drugs. I did come out of the degree, then I went to live in France had like gap. Some of this is kind of folding. The United becoming more rebellious if unite uncertainty unit as many people listening might have very dim view of the sixties and seventies in PayPal taking drugs, but it wasn't a one Jim saying it was really done. I guess quite consciously, certainly with the island state. It was it was a way of, you know, it wasn't might kind of every day. It'd be dropping acid. It would be a ritual. If you like I ready discovered that something else outside of the marriage two point two children, settle down with for two years. That's you locked. N I match guy who became my, my future husband. He was the only person really I'd met whose longtime kind of white length. It's me, and we don't marriage, and we went to live down in Devon, which bashes filed for my family and his family as we could get. I think we sort of we were so unhappy. It was just like had everything that should have made his happy and yet, we were still like on this defined content. Uh-huh. Now that didn't help relationship refinancing always this kind of angst, if you like, and then we met a guy who lived down the road and Pete in his very straight, con farming community. He was always bit strange. He sits in his God pajamas this guys. He sounds. Somebody that we might like to meet in. So we met him and. Is long story at all? We met him, and he was he had big house, and he said this is center, and having this guy erections gonna come to the week going to group this. I've heard many stern stuff really. I think I'd seen something about Osho on the TV at some point, I can TV Casuals on the crap table. Standing outside his odiaun route. These people are so stupid. Borussia arrived at the weekend, he invited us to come and do his workshop like free everybody else's pay on five hundred pounds something, which allow n- AJ. He said, you know what you're both invited. I my husband said while I'm gonna do this. And I said, well, my dad bought it. You know, I don't want you to do that try to unite controls relations on doing anyway. And I was helping in the kitchen. I could early kind of strange sounds coming being. And you know, actually what they do with light reimbursing kind of breathing exercises. But I leave it to your imagination, what I feel. Morales was freaking out. And so I said, well, you know, yeah, you can you can come join in the end of the three days in something. It was very intense. It'd be put through very confronting kind of processes, but he will isn't for you in anything's to fronting the process out. But, you know, just come and we both jumped in health either the end of it, this point. It was it was like a five day acid trips without the acid. Everybody was so expanded in Connah's so in Hartland so connected with each other an old through this thing we've been listening to the voice above Shen might be rationed have paid certain quotes would, you know, essentially what we've been going through very challenging if you light very appropriate. Wow. Okay. This is what I've been looking for. And the shock of all of that is okay was the process. But I thought that that was the end of the journey when natural vitamins beginning that was when consciousness kind of woke Kay, I'm in this, this is this is gonna be looking. This is someone who speaking, my language, and he speaking troops than you and your listeners, probably know when you hit troops, you get like Harold next. Yeah. That's, that's undeniable truth, and it might be different each. One of them. Is that denies some intrinsic truth that him you? Okay. That's it. Sorry. No, no. Not at all. I was fascinated. So, so then you woke up, basically and kind of looked around and what now. Then it was like exactly what now because that really threw a rock into the holiday. What do you do when you won't end up? Nine people told these days about, you know, he's awake at nine always questioning this away would just I think a way in really names like full realization enlightened, but I did wake up. Oh, what do I do? Now in he kept setting rush hour, if it doesn't work this weekend, just go back to shape it, you chickens, but you couldn't we couldn't. Then we'd met only people who going to India, you know, they'd come home that workers taxi driver with the six months, you know, get whole bunch of money together, my slugging working working, then they go off to India to be with most. That's why he was. And it just completely disrupted allies. I was pregnant had in girl just pick up and go to India. So there was always this kind of push. On into go explore find out who I was underneath all of the kind of conditioning absorbed. But it just it so didn't fit, you know, and then eventually very long story show, it just got some strong, and I had to go that, that was many years later in various bits that happened in between. Vity relevant in the poll became so strong. I was sitting one day on my so for ago this rest my life. I might be dead in these little always inside when you know what you are just so close to dead. Okay. I gotta go. Totally husband still married several years nights. We'd been through various experiences with our show, living commune's come back to being together. But it it was just too strong to deny ticket went to India and realize that that's what I had to be periods. And I was there on of ten years. It was a place where really I felt so alive. And so me a has unburdened by having to be something in someone else to fit into into a box. It didn't just happen overnight. And then in India, that, you know, it wasn't like a classic Indian astral where he just sat meditated all night one. We did we did an enormous in hundred different meditations that he created that was the log of therapy going on because in the western mind, especially those of us who are now baby boomers, we were full of motive no BS. Away and the best way to do that, especially if you're a secret, your annual ferocious like many of these were, and are you just want to do the work in three days instead of three years? Yeah, couch, Joe that problems, but really extreme measures would needed and voluntarily dived into heaven forced us to do that stuff. But I would not be person. I am today if I hadn't been through all of that all the all the not person I still haven't because -nology but it stripped away a home load of crap. Wow. We're gonna talk about this. So he influenced your journey in a big way. Is there anything that really? Stuck with you. That you would say this is where I grew most. That's very interesting question I think the thing about being around show was that, you know, every night he would come out and we would sit with him. And some of the time it was even in silence. But when he would talk about a Buddha thing, meaning that when three four thousand people gathered together, and they're sitting in fragrance of the Mazda. Something happens bile osmosis in. He even said, you know, when I die, I will be dispersed among my people, I was there when you left the body somebody I'm, I'm not Catholics. I can't imagine. But, you know, you have a reverence owed for instance, when says a as an outpouring shock agreed. You know, we there were no show body and you think this is worst possibly happen to design a used to explore that later. But then. It wasn't the worst thing that could have happened. Everybody was alone away. I mean, yes, there was changes in Schulkin, but we kind of knew it come in. But when did you could feel it was almost like sucking, all of that, that vapor back inside and? That probably was the most powerful. I'm into couple of days before that I was sitting Buddha vol- when he came out, I think the last time knowing that he was very close to the end, just current bomb, bud. This with energy didn't speak it. He would would kinda whole lightning into the audience with his with his hands. Much in the second row by Jones. And when he would look down the rose you'd failures looking you that he'd be taking in, you know, hundred fifty people behind you looked in his eyes in, you know, felt him looking at me, while it was it's weird to recount it to somebody who's not experienced name. That was such a talent seventy magin. I get into meet the Buddha, for instance, in Monday's, boaty TriNet, can imagine that, you know, something would have by just sitting in silence. That presence, but the whole thing as being my life's would go, my life on work because every single thing he said, I've taken on board somewhere, but more, not, not as an intellectual concept as a way being as a way of living, my life that has changed everything done, if that makes sense does it does not really pinpoint emo-, downing I went to America when he was. They used to festivals whether it being. Twenty thousand people can they made, like ten sitting put up to welcome everybody. No-show dues con drive by massive massive brunch and some spices that, you know, he could drive around that could be five thousand people by the side of the road to waiting his dry. Be a small law in the grand scheme of the acreage that was there. But one day I decided to get up and go to the moon afternoon. And as I was crossing road, it was one con coming in a Rolls, Royce. It's I'm showing Royce. It was driving around owed shit. Hey. Like a little Meeks England side road United sta- as he drove by, but that was equally amazing. If you recant it to somebody now Sunday, even listening to this might, but. Such a cower that comes from being like that. Yeah. Pretty amazing. And when I lived in India rioting, worked in shows hells, choose lighter, white privilege somewhere, you're in the house while he's still alive even enough to he passed away as vibe in. It's something almost that because we lived in frequency you're unaware of it suddenly when you're not living in finding become a wet. It's not there anymore. Yeah. It does. That makes perfect sense. I mean, you'd get sort of in trained. Vibration. Right times on. I'm still friends. Just, you know, all of the people on you help much ice trends of people on you in India, a hand. We bombed that is unspeakable in the sense that we've all been through something, we all have our own unique connection to Osho and why we would call, you know what, what particularly spoke to us in a way. Because we all shed as kind of knowing this fix weightiness that is transmitted in silence. That sounds strange though. No, not at all. Anyone of these people's homes around Williams and we sit and we would know you know, we, we know each other. Have changed a minute of it. So. I don't want to detract from this is there anything else that you can share about your journey that you shared with oh, show or anything since. What happened when he left the body was? You know, I'd still go back and forth and back and forth. But then McKay moment when we'll still coming back to new yesterday. My friends and not kind of hierarchy in place. Running the extra, and I just didn't feel the pull anymore that it is almost like when he said, I'll be dispersed among people, his people were all over the world. So I was heading back to India. And I was living at the time I had a home, south of frozen, I chose to center, so people come have workshops there and stuff, but it is can to the point, why will decided to the south of France to come to Australia. Mine was already living here, I kind of wanted to explore more the rest of the world and use what I learned from show an Sharon world Lewis, I give a gift. Why would you keep it for himself? And. Joking says seems really on just maybe many eight maybe. In the world's. Do you go and make money? And as I've got older, I realized that somewhere, you need to be in a state of relax, -ation, and let go in order to be known from unique to have that, that drawing, you need to have focus, but you also need to not so much in hustle. You need to be able to balance masculine and feminine. But I came out into will sign okay? I'm a bit most. I didn't know what to do, especially when I got a strategy around. I had business here, then we had the whole financial happen. My finance is went really down the toilet. But by this time I will set connected with Tony Robbins and started to do a lot of work within which I found really balanced out, you know, this whole right brain thing, we show just meant it at. I love Mony Tony tools to understand you mum, rather than just, you know, when I meditate, I watched the clouds go across my mind, I say, the and I go inside and that's great. But when my mind is busying freaking out, and it's and it's worrying its anxious. What do I do not sitting meditation? Meditators away. And I think that's the challenge with many people use meditation wires crutch. You cannot manage away stuff going. Umile at listeners completely disagree in, but I have one friend who was Buddhist monk, and he has quite a few issues in his life. And I've noticed meditating away has not been successful him. So, so basically, it sounds to me that you came out of India from Osho with the very strong spiritual life. But came in to what some people called the mundane life. And so the two worlds were very deceptive. And then you had to learn how to nip those together. That's very well put because what happens when I go to strata was, I came to be with the community of other shows e cycles. I wanted to be Australian, 'cause my mom was here, and she was getting older least be in side of the world's. Visit her once a month and stay for a week or something, and just, you know, support that was a huge community of Osho cycles in the town where I decided to settle and that would great while I was just kind of in retirement guy, had money and I didn't have to work, and I was living, this really great life, you know, meditating friends to beat do dinners, you know, it was just very great life, until I didn't have any money and suddenly, realize, I was gonna have to really Wilma finger out. Do something to support myself. Moved was a lot. Like I found move Santa Fe Sedona place way. There's a big spiritual community is an awful lot of people who broke. You've got lung hilas and tarot readers and energy workers, but then not financially abundant. That was the case in the channel I was living in people also very, very blinkered by some Bester actual loose. And so that this can point where I needed to get away from matter. I needed to move to a place, which is much more normal, where, you know, there is some wealthy people very wealthy people entrepreneurs and you know, people people very savvy, but they're also you know, waking up to the fact that they need to live, a more healthy and wholesome life. So an and they had the money to support that, and I don't want new listeners to just becomes known raving capital, but we need money to survive. And, you know, I love the good things in life. And then as also would say squeeze the juice from life. You know. Why would I live in team p when I entered into beautiful of? The us thing was always don't be attached to those things. So I lost everything in discovered really. It's very easy to be Nala touched right out in the big house anymore out so much stuff around million. I discovered that, you know, yes, one day, I'll have those things again because they give me pleasure. But that not vital to my Welby. One thing I noticed is, is that in traditional spiritualism, it's? Money is, it's almost like it's the root of all evil. And, and, and we're supposed to not well, not be attached to it. Of course. But it's I know a lot of spiritual. Entrepreneurs that. That's one of the big fights that they face is, is how to balance making money and not pushing away, whether they're conscious of it or not. But Osho he drove Rolls Royces. And so it's kind of traditionally that just goes against what we're taught is spiritualism. And, and I'm not saying that in a judgmental way I'm just saying. How did he do that? You go. To go back crystal auto show. I think he did it just to provoke people to make a look. Wow. This this doesn't fit accepted norms. I'm again, go back to the ethic Vatican. How? Richest country in the world and anyone that won't offend anybody. This thing was really to CRA vote people to look, and I think it's absolutely based nothing the biggest problem that we face in the world today in in, I is trying to justify to us, south that having money is okay. And that we, you know, there's enough to go round that's enough to feed the whole world that enough, I all to be happy, but some way it's about our ability to receive that we've being conditioned to think small and to be restricting end in the business that I'm in the very first place that I stopped when people that I need to go through a money mindset hosts because you cannot make money if you're unable to receive me. If you think like you said, it's actually the love of money is the root of the biggest thing if you want people to write down one side of the money lakes. You have base woman must being conditioned crawl up in Judeo Christian society. So it's, it's terrible to see the poverty mindset, hooping. I was just in new last weekend. We were talking about, and most of us live in a world where it's either all for show, Aiden when I had some money, I, I lived in a world where, you know, I'll buy a new washing machine all go away for the weekend, whereas when he stopped to move into another vibration that we can have it all. But we need to believe we can have all the men all comes into traction vibration, and enjoy unhappiness that when. We live in this tiny restricting will of fair stress anxiety. That's what they. Practice of the magic is some alpha Chiltern that before we started recording. Dona to do a twenty eight practice. The whole bunch of other people on the book, the magic by wrong burn a twenty eight gratitude practice because it the focus from lack and absence to gratitude for even the smallest things we have in when we start to practice rectitude more, what we grateful fulfull starts to come and yeah. The money mindset combs, it's tragic to see how people hyper limitations and totally believe this not enough to go round and deeply embedded in the subconscious. Abhu. What you're doing now? What are you doing now? Digital print. I teach people how to make money online. I'm positive -education full that shows people have to become digital permanence, and it's just so much fun on the huge collect to tribe. We're basically movement to change in. It's just us. Such a great question. Really the change that we want to see this helping to create abundance themselves in families. We found a vehicle to do that. So many people join the platform, okay? This is what I can make money what they realize is. They start to feel more about tonight generating income is that they are right to show others how to do that. And. Just it's a movement to change this thing, also, I don't know what we saying they fall, but, you know, having money gives you the option to do so many beautiful things, the seventy people. He starts whittling. The first thing I do is I send them a copy of the magic, okay, six years ago. I couldn't afford to buy copy of imagine south. You know this. It's just the ability to be generous, and to be giving unto not big giving to get, you know, just like to do wonderful things, people, whether it's having setting up a charitable organization participating in some of good works it just incredible frayed of knife. That's what everybody wants. You know, even when I went to ocean it was it was defined freidan into be free. The baggage I was carrying her own on the rage in the rebellion inside. Just went this. This is not good enough meat is going to be more miss. And I think one of the things that I've set on himself is in Facebook, who Cole multi-dimensional wealth. When people say, what is that? Will it's great health. It's great, spirituality, great relationships. It's great finances. It's anything that's gonna make this little. Richer inside the house. I think that's what true freedom is, when you're little, you know, feted by the outside, but at the same time you living in abundance, and is the open group it or is this. But yeah, I love face speakers. So interacted. Falls in pages in that way, you as a face us can kind of express, who you are. I'm in a business page as well. Which is a little less human my profile. Multidimensional wealth. It's really just started. But it's web people in coming share that thoughts on injure act as I get more into ultimately have a weekly challenge. You know, but I lie groups because biggest you know, one person set everybody else can convince direct again. I will go ahead and ask if you would if you don't mind, I'll add a link on the show notes for that. That would be awesome. A whole lot of new people, and I basically endorse social media. I mean, certainly when we had expanding as we met some amazing people including yourself when when. Had demise which is a sad, but Karen was ready to continue Shand things going on in her life. And basically couldn't afford to keep it going. You know, weekly costs monthly costs. Really, what was beautiful the community of people that avenue? And so, I haven't now minute drive is full of freedom collective, and then all the people I knew from to Romans polite, new, India, though, show and it's just such a great group. Great try but everybody seems to have stuff in common witches, narrow seekers. They just personal development and on the path of a wellness. And I just love sounds like a wonderful group. This multidimensional wealth. I mean all the people connected with through Facebook just love them. Well, I think we're running out of time, actually. And but we had talked about getting together again and trying to get the video to work next time. So I do. Thank you, San Dan for joining me. And I really look forward to getting together with you again. Very soon. Thank you so much, inviting you, if you're up for it, I will send you a link to my Facebook page. At least I don't have current website, but anybody who is this would like to reach out, and send me a message, you know, if you send me a friend request just send me message Billeness interview, and if you have any questions, very, very happy to meet new people. Thank you. And I will definitely add that to the show notes as well. That's it for this week's episode of the pause podcast brought to you by creative. He's N studios for show notes as well as a peek at upcoming episodes, visit us on pud being at the pause dot pod being dot com. Join me next week when I welcome a surprise guest to the show hope to see you then.

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3: 8 Years in an Osho Community

Bravely Mistaken

2:32:26 hr | 1 year ago

3: 8 Years in an Osho Community

"All right today. We've got a doozy remember the guru from the documentary on Netflix. Wild wild country tree where we have One of his son Johansson's who stayed at one of his temples not the one in Oregon but the one in India for eight years years Yeah there you have it so Once again we decided to put the entire episode on Youtube instead of just interview so we mentioned anything like weird confusing stuff about youtube. Don't be alarmed. You know we're still working at the Kingston the sound and everything like that So yeah thanks for hanging in there with us and we're just GONNA keep getting and better and better for you so enjoyed the episode. Hold on a second. There's a difference in the mentality of country people and city. Okay hold on hold. On Christian women came into his room and they were freaking out about all the witchcraft stuff. I used Swami leg magic. We don't know what you're talking talking about. Hey my anniversary is coming up. I WanNa make it really special words. How can a man save some money on Viagra? What would happen to you you? If you lived at a temple for eight years how would you change. And how would those change around you find out today on the bravely mistaken podcast. Hello everybody and welcome to the show. This is Jordan. O'Leary come that she again. We've got shots we've got lady on WHO Who's lived at a temple? An Osho temple actually Osho Temple Temple the the charismatic gentlemen from the film Documentary Wild Wild country. Eight part documentary series on Netflix. Netflix and Yes she lived at a temple in the main. The main temple not the one in Oregon the one in In India for eight years this woman eight years astounding standing again. I'm Jordan Leery. I am joined by another Angel Orlando fresh from a Halloween party last night angel. Welcome welcome welcome girl morning my friend. Thank you you good to be here. I don't know what's going on. Your your sound is actually kind of fucked up check-check onto can you give me check church a church now. You're doing good okay fuck it. Let's just go angel. How you doing buddy good man recovering from last night? But I'm hanging in there. Yeah Yeah Okay all right so you actually made it down there you actually. You're debating whether to go because you live how far how far was the actual. Oh he's in L. A.. How far was actual Uber? Or so if I would've taken the Uber would have been about two hours. Decided to actually drive myself Just because it was only an hour but still like an hour and some change Halloween night. La going down the five. I mean our unchanged change. That's not bad. That's not bad you drove yourself day. I decided just to myself do is going to be two hours and I don't know man lately I've been getting new vers. The guy is like been passing out really. Have that happen twice already bad. Yeah I went on a date like I. I don't know what was that like maybe three weeks ago months ago. Something like that and it was like eleven o'clock and and the guy was just drifting the line and then when I was in the desert this last last weekend I had a guy just totally pass almost totally pass. How was driving? I was like hey. Hey Hey hey since dangerous men scare the hell out of me and now I feel like Shit. I didn't go last night. I'm in Mexico. So there's no real Halloween but I guess it turns out that everyone celebrates dea the dead dead a lot last night. I thought it was tonight because I think I'll be celebrating day of the dead like hat face and everything. I'll throw in a picture if I do right here. Yeah and if I didn't if you don't see this picture than I was losing. I decided to stay in. And that's how I thought. Halloween was one of those things. That kind of transferred over you know I but a day of the dead is so big here that it's I mean it's literally today like you know it's like it's three days and All Saints Day Day of the dead you know and and I guess maybe because of that. Yeah it's just not such a big thing for people running around in spider man costumes and stuff. Sure sure. But no one's doing that during day. The dead. No one's like I'm GonNa just as iron man on the street now. They do the typical skeleton man. Skeleton woman occur. Corrine corrine or something like that. I don't know I feel like Shit Buddy but I'm still here still doing it. How do you feel? Did you drink now. Now if I'm driving during and they don't call him Angel for nothing folks. It's your standard responsible responsible. I wanted a drink. Well Angels in Hollywood. And he's a big Hollywood player He just came off. I don't know you say the name if you say. The name giant giant game released huge game release You can do the math. And he's probably feeling pretty damn. AM Good Right now. Where people there from work at this party or was it just like A? Oh yeah there's a lot of people from Yes from duty and and I'm not GonNa let that one and then it was. There was there for Bliss Khan and So it was a Halloween party and it was bliss con- yeah so those Albans people from blizzard And then we had a lot of mutual friends That were at the company so it was It was really cool to see everybody and it's without sounding like it was It was like a nerd rave which is Kinda cool like those love nerdy a welcoming very welcoming. It was very chilin relaxed You Know I. I came out very low competition in the in the worry about being a Douche bag. You know Douchebag Free Zone it's fun yeah. Of course one hundred percent boy yeah there's bullies everywhere Yup who are nerds or nerds. Who are not uh-huh Billy's who are nerds are bullies? Who bullied nerds no nerds who are bullies? Yes they're the worst. The worst of the worst and like you're walking contradiction right. It's like a it's like A. It's like a Jewish person helping the Nazis in World War Two. They they were there. I mean basically what it is breath feel. Okay you feel I really I just did you drink no but I had a shot yesterday for the show we we recorded yesterday and I got a bunch of bad news. I got like a bunch of nothing like all you know. Nothing like health related or family related just like Product got you know not doing as well as it used to do and then of course I'll say booty booty booty fresh I'm out of stock doc. And my manufacturers like was really lagging on stuff and it was like no updates no any. That's me basically managing his his people because they just never know what's going on you know and and I swear to God I sometimes I think you know and You know and and I think it's like if I have any alcohol and there's like stacks of bad news it just I just get very well. Sure share. Now it's funny you usually drink to alleviate that stress but that it just it just I dunno it mixes is in with a negative shit. That's already stu in your body and then I never ever ever drink to feel happy. Never dare I drink to celebrate to to jump in sing and and and basically after accomplishments things like this and I had one shot just takeoff nerves because the gal great interview by the way if you haven't seen it This this woman Addie. She is The devout spiritual practitioner. But she's not full of Shit. You know I'd never do that to you or I'd say if she was and she did a week without food or water and she was just like. Oh you know like freaking out and she did it. Basically alone under the guidance of stuff but people no but I think six months total without real food just liquid but the first week was no water either and it totally league changed her thing about food anyway. I mean I'm just I'll just say that totally changed the way that she reacts to food things like this and she's not full of Shit anyways that's all I'll say 'cause because you can see the episode but yeah it was good. It was good so I took I took shot. Because she's little sensitive these people who do these things they don't want to be made fun of and all that you know so there to Kinda cautious. Sure sure that's I really listen to that. That's actually sounds really interesting. I want to know how she lived. Yeah yeah well you know. We didn't get into that too much. It wasn't like today where our guest is was in a temple. She did it on her own. But yeah I mean like interactive interacting with friends and so anyway check out the episode. Check it out you know. I don't WanNa make this episode about that. Obviously but and speaking of episodes this is the fifth episode Soeder at least the fifth one. We're recording out of the five that we're launching with so all of the news that you hear and it's Halloween. I'm talking about joker. I think we talk about joker. It's old old news. Okay I get it. You know. It's old hat you know. But now that we're releasing and I think sometime before Thanksgiving all all of the episodes will be weekly and they should be quite fresh quite fresh so I think it's milestone allstone. I'm going to give ourselves around applause here for this while the five to four getting any feedback from anyone. So we'll see you know. Hopefully it's it's not too boring into the no. Don't take other shot. I know I was thinking. I think I'm not going to take a I shot. Yeah maybe a little hair the dog though. Should I do it. I'll do it fucking like listen. It's it's I hate doing it but I feel fine actually in terms of like my nervousness but you know it's all yeah. It's it's Halloween. What do you got over their new? Well it's it's fucking these Mexican safety nozzles on these things. Don Julio Seventy Oh nice okay okay. It's right I have auto locked locked. WHO's focused locked? I'm excited I'm looking. I'm looking at my immediately read. I'll I'll get immediately read when they take this. Here's to Halloween. In America Day of the dead in Mexico cheers and Yeah Ho Blanco. which makes no sense this to me? Tequila NEA. I think it's a gimmick. I think he's probably cheaper. Version of the other. People are having having a Kabo. Seventy seventy years you know something seventy gringos I've fell for. This is more like seventy million. Uh Uh Buddy when you get down here well you're probably not gonna get any you know. I thought that time would like I would. Actually they get some time off but things are still going so strong or work man. And I'm like I mean not as bad as it was like a couple of weeks ago but I'll tell you why if you think I think I'm going to be down here for about another three weeks and then I got or maybe I'll wait until the very beginning of that'd be three weeks from now. Yeah Yeah and then I'll make it up for for Thanksgiving. I'll swing by by the way for before I go up to Seattle. I got a whole room now. I've got a whole extra beautiful beautiful beautiful and then We gotTA DO Sushi. And then I believe I gotta do something in December between Thanksgiving and in Christmas. Because I don't have a place in the state so I stayed with my folks. I don't see them a lot so I stay with them for a month. I can't do a month. I can't do my mom dad. If you're watching aside. I mean you know it's true you know we all know you know that two weeks. I think. That's that's the kicker so I got to do something I gotTa do something I'm going to the Magic Castle next week. I I feel like that's an invitation. Sorry I can't make it. I gotta get a haircut at home. Okay go on go ahead keep talking. No I'm really stoked about it. I've never been and ever since I've lived in California. I I always wanted to go there. You don't just go to the Magic Castle. You gotta be invited. Yeah you have to get an invitation. Which is the biggest pain in the ASS? I've always known people that have Have had friends or have been members. Anna just never had a an opportunity and then One one came up. I was like Oh my God. This is awesome Yup But I gotta get a suit. You don't have a suit now suit. I'm going to wear a suit today for my. Oh dear the dead shit I gotta go find a hat although my fucking hair looks like I had did by the way this last time. You're gonNA see me with his hair at at least until it grows out again. I'm getting a haircut. I waited until this look at this. I look like fucking fletch. You know just like seventy shit. Ah Shut up. Let me let me talk about my fucking ear muffs. I can't stand them. I'm just saying there's an easy alternative for the folks at home. Angels is Shaving Cloven Shaven even head cloven headache. These big. And you know looking good by the way our our Co host yesterday Pilar she said you look cute and Al and that you you you just keep working out and can you keep being good and the women will will go nuts for you. I don't know why I'm telling you this. But that's that's I don't have no idea what why you thank your co host for me. I always appreciate real. She's she's no slouch. No Fuck Up. That's for damn sure. Well now I just gotTa pick a good one. I'll tell you what though she she kinda she. She didn't laugh at like I say she didn't laugh at my fucking jokes yesterday as much as I thought she would guy thought she was going to be my robin. You know Howard Stern Robin quivers. Because why would you do that. Ron Howard Robin it isn't it. Isn't that right revenue like to masturbate. And she's like no no I. Yeah I'll come on come on revenue but you know she was sick and she was looking at her phone all all day yesterday and she's getting kinds of messages from her employees saying I need to get paid what she pays every fucking every goddamn time so it's like and it was worrying her you know she's winning and I'm like type and tear it on on on facebook. Are you looking at your phone. You Got Pimple. Get off your fucking. But she asked great questions. Yes Great Question Tennessee folks then to see you get a taste of almost what it's like to try and do standup. Yeah I feel I'm bombing. Yeah I know it bombing fields I Bombing bombings a special experience. I just heard Joe Rogan. Say he said it's it's like when you when you kill and everyone's loves it it's the fucking greatest feeling in the world and you're just like why and when you bomb. It's like no matter how many how old how veteran you are in the end. It's assist Fox. You you did stand up didn't you. I did do tell me about that. Please tell me about that. It's every call it's like describing a bad trip every comic will describe it the exact same way. Yeah when when when you can make a crowd of people laugh. It's you feel like a million dollars you feel like you're on top of the world. It's an excellent experience but when you bomb you're just like cool. I'm going to go home and kill myself like it's it's devastating and people. I mean. Listen I'M GONNA ASSUME MU bombed I mean I would so the first time I ever did stand up which is probably the worst experience to have the first time I did really well really really well now and then I was just like Oh my God you know this is like I can do this. And then I became super confident and then the next time I did it it I bombed Cardi bad right and then and then the time after that I bombed even worse and then and then the time after that I got a couple of laughs But it was. It was very hard to come back from but I didn't. I went into it totally blind. I didn't stick to the same material the material beforehand you know I didn't obsess over it. I just didn't know how to be a comic. I just thought I'm a funny guy. I can go up there and make people laugh and again the worst experience in my opinion that you can have having a very positive experience because then you think you're talking to walk and then the next thing you know someone's tearing you apart uh-huh Yeah Unbel-. I can't believe he did that. I really hand it to you. Because that's that's intense. That's fucking intense man like I wanted to be a performer. I always wanted to be performed. Well look at you now man look at you now. Where are you right now? And you're doing on your day off. You're going to get done with this thing and you're just going to have a nice lounge day today. Oh Yeah you're going to play some red did to maybe but read to. This is how early where read that too coming coming out in four days I am on. Pc I am so fucking jazz. That's really really WANNA do. I WANNA finish. This episode. Start are promoting the show and just play read to and I want to convince you get to get the game on PC. How I'll go with you if you want to go in and with me on another supplement on Amazon I'll go have with the on fucking red dead? You get it and you Lou and I we can posse up maybe get one more person in there come on man. Doesn't that sound great leader. You can be the leader because you know how to play the game but But I'll listen I I would definitely play red dead redemption to again on on PC. Because I'm playing through through it now so I think it's a GT five online thing. And see I feel like I missed out on that everyone that I wiz that I haven't done that day. Okay let's just do. GTE Five then. Well 'cause you sixes coming out soon not tell fucking twenty twenty one bro. Come really twenty. Now they're up no they're updating twenty they're updating. Gt Five still they they just released a casino. There's there's really focused on it actually Chin it's I think it's generated or GTE's gt four. G. T. I five. It's generated more money than any other like media released of all time games. It had to look. I look like took a bunch pitch Viagra. Yeah I mean I mean but dude now red dead coming down on PC. It's another launch. It's fantastic the task. I mean the same thing happened with five. I guess I don't know man. Listen we gotta get on one of them. I'll get on. GTE Five because it's the same fucking engine right. I'll get on five. I haven't done anything. I just have a guy with fro in a mustache. That's all I've got play read it I think well then would you get. I'll get I'll get on either now now so I'll let me play. I'm obviously going to play the campaign. I let me play it and then I'll say oh my God ain't if I ain't got to do it then you have to. I don't WanNa put put listen using. I would love to get into something like that because I feel like miss out on Don. GT The time. mm-hmm you know. I think you listen. You got the time you you have that sense of accomplishment you come home from work every day. You're fucking done with it you know and you're ready to chill. I think it's I think it's a perfect situation. Lou obviously has all the time in the world you know what does he what does he do. Lou Another Co host of our show He he He is is. He's he does. I don't know if I I don't know what the fuck it I'll cut it out. If I can't say it but he he scans has documents for. I think I think either accountants or something. I'm not sure. But he scans documents all day and he works twenty pages got upgraded to twenty hours a week. Jesus yeah and they would hire him longer but he literally I think think they rent the space and he they can only have the space for that much time a week. Whatever that means I don't know a boiler room situation who were dealing with here on variably mistake and that is our our co host the code the Wildcard Co host? I'd say definitely wildcard. I'd like to. I'd like to what he did it on on the on a few episodes like I listened to him when I was like. That's good I think the divorce episode still. I think he did did a great job. Yeah here's good. Yep and he wanted to ask the guest more questions Mr T.. He wanted to ask Mr Demore quite like but I think he asked he asked. I think he actually asked everything you wanted. He's funny I thought he did good. I thought the questions were good I thought the reports we. We're good 'cause it was just two totally different people. Did you listen to. I think it's the first episode and I'm pretty sure it is doomsday episode. Did you listen to that. Outpace now. His Oh you gotTA listen to it. I I really WANNA listen to that did you send me the link for that I. It's in our group chat. Okay all yeah. I'll posted up again. Yeah I I'm I'm like I had to put him in the in the time out box. Oh Man I had to put them in the penalty box seriously and I didn't know I had a penalty box. You know fucking low. Well Anyway listen. You know. Speaking of being confined went into some kind of prison penalty. Box thing. We're going to get on with our guest who was in an Ashram in India Osho Ashram in India not the one in wild wild country but the main one in Poona India for eight years and this girl is she's really something and she full of energy she's full of light and love and Yeah hope we're going to get the no bullshit account of what's going on over there So that's how it works. If you want to see the video of the interview you can go to Youtube at bravely mistaken. I think otherwise. I'd dubbed over the real channel If you want to see the show on on Youtube Go over there air. Check it out otherwise we will continue after this. Oh I couldn't be more excited angel. Your favorite favorite favorite okay. I don't know what the fuck comes in saying that I was distracted. 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An Angel Angel courses with US US angels courses with us. If you're listening on the podcast once again you can see the video on Youtube. You can check it out there so anyway India. Yeah I want to tell you something. I'm going to preempt this a little bit. I want to let you know that I am. I am not a layman when it comes to things retreat when it comes to temple life life when it comes to scheduled life things like this i. I do two retreats a year seven days often solo. I've also lived with community in his in in Temple in California. I was there for about a month. And I've done maybe a month here and there that kind of thing and also familiar with Osho before the documentary before all of this riffraff. I've read his books. I used to fall asleep listening to him so I am good. I understand what Osho is. I I understand what temple life is but once again even with my experience there I have no clue what eight years I would do to me as a person basically doing exactly what you've done I have no idea what I would do even with my experience and I'll tell you one more thing. The the audience definitely has no clue what this is like. Definitely one hundred percent. So you'RE GONNA have to go really easy on us because we are clueless about this stuff so you please please allow my dumb questions and my stupidity about all this stuff and I thank you very much once again for coming on. Thank you India. Welcome can sure. I met India in India as it were in Rishikesh much like a my last guest or at least my last guest. I think it was the second episode mature and She's she's lovely lady. Just pulled it out of me and I wanna just hit you with the very big question just to start. Were you enlightened by going by doing eight years in temple stupid question. I know but I gotta ask. What do you say about that enlightened? It IT'S A. It's a very big word. I think in the spiritual communities you know everyone. Everyone wants to be enlightened. I think but I didn't go to Osho commune or actually it goes right now. It's not asham anymore. It's a Bush. Shaw Resort International Resort Mitigation. This is where it's in Poona India India India state of Maharashtra. So I didn't didn't go there for enlightment yes that I didn't know anything about enlightenment. When I went to India I just fell in love with meditation and my life changed very quickly and I just wanted to go and be in place for Osha was teaching? I didn't go with some. I'm kind of precise intentions. or show are. You're very lucky you're very lucky that you didn't go with an intention because that's always what I'm I'm having to battle every time. I do a retreat. At least the first four days I'd say are just getting over my intention. Although intentions is very important in my opinion for spiritual life But let me ask you this Maybe wouldn't say Iowa's enlightened or I was this but obviously it has it changed your life totally hundred percent okay. How long long ago was this Well I went to also commune or Shaw In two thousand went and lived there until two thousand eight and then and then And then I was living in in India I loved I loved the or should resort meditation resort anti eventually in when I was in poona awesome. I didn't want to go out. You know actually I didn't want to travel and I just wanted to be there all the time you know like That was how how. How do you decide that? Okay my life in this life life with with burgers and Schnitzel and what do they have in a lot. She's a lovely no. I was living the nate selene early. You're living in Pasta Leo oily. Oleo and Bruce Kit You know how how in this life Findus Gondolas and things of how. How can you decide? I know that's awful. How can you decide to just say okay I'm going to not do these things anymore. And then having it work. You actually don't want to leave and things like this. What's going on? They're transitioning coming from a life like this into a life of piety. Ya Devotion I wasn't. I was not happy at the time you know something happened. Actually on the outside everything was fine but inside I was feeling being completely unhappy and I didn't see myself anymore belonging to anywhere so you know I was asking myself why I'm here. What is the purpose of this life? I started to ask myself questions and nobody. Oh Body could answer you know and And then actually I was in Miami Florida I remember very well full time in two thousand. Where Yeah it was two thousand actually and it was some partying of course farting harding horse? Part pausing heart quite hard yeah man. It was a bright sunny day and it was just beautiful. You know Miami a very colorful and some interesting ways to to be and I was fitting completely eh Down you know. I wouldn't depressed but I was. I was feeling down and then I brought with me. One Book of Horseshoe to Miami uh-huh given to me by friends Milan. One President Gil an open book. I was actually. I remember exactly what happened. I was sitting in the beautiful hotel. Delana think the name of the beautiful place and and it was booker for Sean and I started to read and then everything was just like answering my question. uh-huh what is the purpose of this live the same day I booked over into event. I left calamity. I've went to Milan. And maybe they after I've been to the Osha Sangeen. Milan is I was GONNA say. Wait a minute no show centers not in Milan. Yes had you been kind of honest a long string of kind of the hedonistic lifestyle so to speak peak or kind of that kind of things done so yes you know usual Shea Shea traveling lords were you religious at all before not. It's all zero zero so this was like this. Just just wonderful new concept that made sense to you like you read it. You're just like okay. It's following everything that I'm really wondering about life Just unsworth my questions. You know immediately that was the it was so immediate and and with my state of being at the moment and the thing was that it was not religion it was not a new religion that I had to believe into you know so I liked that It it was not about religion. Actually Was Not about God. It was not about new religion new concept. Let's say you know it was all about into yourself and meditation at this big God you had to fear and all these rules that you had to follow otherwise really the STRETO. I felt freedom immediate freedom you know from my belief system. Actually you know I remember i. I did acid and and I could I had all these insights and all this stuff like just like yes. This is the way the world is and yes this is how life is reality is it's like but it's this is what I'm experiencing. How do explain it to other people? How do I you know? I don't know how to relate this into the normal things that are happening to me in my life however this realizations nations that I had on acid were very much there. I just didn't notice them. They're kind of in the background. And then it wasn't until I read be here. Now by Rom dos us to be on on acid again and it was saying all the things that I had been kind of figuring out you know and I go. Oh my God and I'm like God this is this is saying exactly what I'm experiencing like. This is it. Oh my God and it was very clear to me you. You know like it was like there it is someone gets it like. There's words for this stuff. There's excellent for this stuff. That was my feeling. All right. I read Osha Swertz but was totally clean not on drugs nothing. Yeah yeah well that's a that's always the best so you're in Miami you read this read you read through this book you You have this This connection to it and then and then what you just get on a plane and go. I'm just GONNA move. I'm going to take all my stuff and they're gonNA move. Yeah it was so immediate. I had no doubt anymore Cruzi in other just because I just wanted all wanted is to start to meditate and experience what he was describing you know injured and also get out of my misery. No I was totally. No I don't jumping up and down. Actually yeah I was very excited. I was very was very excited. Yeah I think when you know what go ahead please I interrupted you. Be a story I just felt is the beginning of my new life along and I didn't know I I really jump into the known I give up my old Connections and my old job and everything auctioning. I took one year for myself and I started to meditate as soon as I came back from Miami and that was it. I mean as soon as I started to get into that circles of meditators tators. I was scared of course. Sometimes because or shall meditation some of them are very incomes towns you know and radical what are some of those what are some of these things I mean. 'cause I'm meditated but but well There are few Cathartic Meditations like calm like dynamic meditation. It's it's more it's it's kind of extreme. You know because you use cream allots you breathe you you express yourself freely you know whatever is there. Whatever emotions suppressed emotions your have? They they really come out. You know they come on the surface and then you have to express them but it's not only just express them you'll have to watch them at the same time you know when I run to this Meditation Cathartic Meditation. I was very very scared. I was GonNa say there's something about people who just like I'll be honest with you and I see people ecstatic dancing. I I know that if I just go in there and I just started moving. It'll be fine it'll be fine but at first I'm like you guys have fun. No one hundred percent like that. That brings up a good question because this is like a lot of that hesitation for you. Just go out there and do those things is what other people are are going to think of you. So let's say when you started to do this. Did you tell people. Did you tell you like your family and friends ends. Did you say hey I just discovered this wonderful thing. It means so much to me. I'm going to go do this and did anyone. was anyone just like. Are you crazy crazy. Like what are you doing you know. Did anyone try to stop. And we were had everyone. I think everyone and my friend in Milan there were saying okay. Now what you're going to wear Saudi and be religious and going and you're we're not going to drink champagne anymore not gonNA parth easy. It's actually DOTS DOTS. That's that's what was happening. I lost my interest. I lost all interest in the partying in continuous kind kind of Shaw and proving something to others. I started to to really to dive into meditation. You know since the chains were broken you were just like I'm free of all all of this stuff like I do this. No I mean unseal. I was feeling that I don't have to. I don't anything to anyone I can be myself. I mean I needed some years of meditation and so-called deconditioning. You know from my old kind of personality. Yeah they call it the conditioning listening. Yes absolutely yes no no absolutely absolutely. I mean because you're locked in these. Yeah Yeah Yeah. You're locked in this idea of what should be and like I say it's cheesy to dance. I mean I need like four drinks dance but once but once I start dancing to really feel comfortable to to actually get out there. You know before it's just feeling like I say with ecstatic dancing. It's like Oh God God. Oh these guys are are just dancing theatre. It's dramatic but that's it it's that block. It's and I'm telling you I am this way. I am a judgmental person. I am that way and but I know it's just a block. It's an idea of that. It's stupid and it's protecting me from looking stupid just like you said Angel exactly like you said it's protecting me from being an idiot but everyone Out there is worried about the same thing so the Catharsis is get out there. You're streaming you're shaking your doing whatever it is that you're doing I don't no no and just the freedom of having that block lifted is amazing. Yeah it's amazing amazing. I liked what you said about that about you. Felt what what is it that you said I. I'm not responsible or I don't owe anything to anyone that is. That's not enlightenment. You know really. I don't really know what is like. What else do you want? You know. But you're just you're just you know from the very beginning when I started to meditate and I started religiously to grow like every day to meditation and discovering discovery. Actually how many mosques I have you you know like for real. It's not while and the feel more free of course and feel more free Doors myself you know and when you feel this freedom inside of course you're you're you can distinguish you know what is important for you and what does not know it. Just come naturally. Did you lose any kind of relationships Before you went to to the Ashram to the resort yeah. He lost some relationships from them. Finding out that you're going no actually I was I. It was in the relationship before I left to India. I wasn't this relationship but I I started to see that we have such different views. You know and our desires in live. Where very different French you know and that was not into dot anymore and your partner must have been so confused? What Yasha uh she was? He was very confused and heartbroken and disappointed and he could not understand why. And what is happening in you know but I was very much clear about. Actually the Clark came quite Right the way after I started a few minutes stations. You know I was. I was very clear I need this. I don't need this ace anymore. So those moments of doubt like right in the beginning of just like maybe. Maybe I've made a bad choice. Maybe I should go back to this lifestyle it all the time. There were doubts but very like momentary doubt and then I was diving into meditation and into also Sports Awards I was listening to his discourses and reading his words he actually never wrote a book. Write great all of his books are transcription of yeah. Yeah so Whenever I was doubting my a new new life I was just going into meditation and Just that is shaken. Just checking if this is true or just. This deceiving mind which is actually never changes. You know overseas doubting fearful. And every time. Whatever you will do it's never enough? You know so one one once understand this you're just not Paying so much attention to mind. Did you have others there. With with you. at the Ashram that would probably experiencing the same thing that were like a support system for you. You know just when you had those doubts or you have those questions and did you guys talk about it like as a group and amongst each other. So we're talking now about Indian because I started to to mandatory in Italy in Milan and I went to different retreats so I really dedicated this year. One Year of my life to meditation and self discovery and eats and agree. I I was going. I was going for it. You know and and in Milan you moved into the temple there. Yes it was a residential thing. No no no no. It was just a center. It's it wasn't Meditation Century Thin. Yeah Okay yes but already I think overeating Milan I was saying my doubts I was still very new and I didn't want to look insincere insincere and seer and maybe not spiritual and stupid you know the beginner so I was but I think I was sharing with some and people trusted I was sharing on. I didn't say My didn't change my name immediately. You know so that was I took my name. I changed my name where the doubt really Disappear you you know. And that was still in Italy so I went to India over the with the took Sonya so I took initiation Russian in Italy so when you are initiated into the but is the official name what would you call it into the practice. What does the official name of the practice You call it taking a Sonya's okay. Is this the Asan like among none are among well in or Cheval. There is a a new meaning to some to this word to this. Initiation he called kickoff his Sanaa's Nelson. Yes so it's a new meaning. You don't have to be a monk you don't you have to be celebrate. have to go from the vote to high in the Himalayas in the cave. Sir Can live in the world but not to be off the wall. Okay so what does the initiation into something like this. I think for everyone it happens in a different way. I don't think Any doubt I mean I mean for for Zen. It's called Yucai in what but I in in in my lineage and we sit there we have to so this thing. That's like a the case human. I am in how their ritual have. Yeah what is what it's There's someone who is Some of the or show Olson Yassin usually in my case There was this beautiful lady. She was a therapist and my first therapist carapace and my first teacher. Her name is shown. Your she's really amazing bean. She was very close to or shop and so she was leading this retreat in Italy in some beautiful or she center and I told her that I would like take sunny us become Oceania's and what was that. What was the actual ritual for? That added that Gulf so so She was sitting there with this Malla or Shamala with -ocial portrait on it and saw yes Basically you Dan Salat everybody's dancing with you. It's like a celebration. It's a celebration to an initiation in into your new life you know. And why Why new name? Because you know you you have association with the The your old name conditioning is associated. Did you also say with all your old life. Saving thing was then its name mm-hmm. Yeah and yeah but after a few years understood that I took a new. I've been saying you know here we have to be very careful because so you get rid of the old one but then you can easily only get the new kind of stain the new one although you can't really but spiritual identity is spiritual materialism kind of thing like it's fried. It's streaking Tom. But but when you take when you get initiation initiation it's very pure. It's very beautiful. It's it's really it's A. It's a full trust in your master. AUSTER in his movement in in his teaching in the Sonya role in the community people are so you you move to to India. And you've got this. You're already initiated. You've got your new name. Which is India? You move to India. Had you been to India before never know boy. So how did you end in Delhi or Mumbai in Mumbai. Oh Wow I've never been to Mumbai. I've been to India three times in Delhi every time I've never gone south so learn by how is I made. How is that in a Deli is like Whoa? That's just like a movie movie. How can you describe you are coming from Milan on you? Know God yes. How can you by Milan but I was? I was so much eager to reach my destination to go to wash. 'em saw everything wrong. was like a movie. Didn't really affect me. But I was immediately when I get out of the plane. I said I'm home. You know honestly I was so so happy. And then you saw some shitting on the street so many things because I went by car run by taxi. All the slums through all the slums and it was like It's a dream it's Maya is. It's not real real cannot happen to for real for the Cubans. was there a moment where you re that you saw in these these first days where you're just like Whoa. I'm here in a different place. Is there a moment when you're a member. Yeah I think because the smell was the most could well. That's that's not a moment. That's just existing in that's part of being in India for sure. Well this now and the traffic you know the way they drive you know if you Jordan events dance by car from risk the belly you know how how carry absolutely can being on the road so yeah I was. It's the worst case it is insane. You keep I interrupted you. I want to hear keep going up. Yup keep asking okay all right Yeah Angel you've got to step away go for it man. Oh Yeah No. It's just I I totally forgot about this thing but yeah it's just going to be two seconds and then there's not even here yet. Just come back and jump jump. Just leave and come back. It's no problem okay. I'm sorry about that goes. Yeah no problem. No just as fate or something Okay awesome so you're on your way to Poona and to the big now this this is I mean this is a. I don't know what it was like at the time but this is a grandiose of very big compound around with that Google Glass Temple or pyramid kind of in the middle of the thing and and everyone's walking around wearing. What are you wearing again? What what is the color of the garb that send Jassem wear purple Maroon Robes Maroon Maroon role PIA men and women we revering this Maroon Robes I love it soak rating to where this role? I'm actually. I'm a burgundy man myself but Maroons pretty close marines. Pretty Close Can I ask what was it. Typical daylight over there. What was just like? Let's say skip ahead three years. What's a typical day like At at the Ashram you know you work seven days So you what time do you wake up. Just get through a day for us if you want to go for Than amick meditation than I think it was Around six o'clock something like this so get up like five three and this is. This is the meditation where you're you're you're kind of screaming and shaking at. What is there anything in that at the end? I mean that's an important. Everyone's everyone's doing all kinds of very strange things for people who are not initiated in this kind of thing on the ground writhing are you are people grabbing each other. Or is it like hands-off strictly kind of situation totally Hansel. I Dunno what was happening in the beginning or Bona. Puna some but When I get there No not not a toll you know what what. What do you mean what was happening in the beginning? What do you mean by well? I think when people were you know I cannot actually talk about what I didn't see but I heard many stories of course It was much more intense and people. Were you know it was different times. Let's say a bit more hands on. Let's say probably not their absolute saw. I was not witnessing Puna Wan. WanNa tell poodle who knew there was one I mean. Of course. Everyone's seen the goddamn documentary. Of course you know but yeah I I do know at the time that that it kind of changed and everything like this. Yeah so so. You're you're going to diner we're GONNA Trust me. It's not my top of of interest here So you go through dynamic meditation in the morning if you want to and then from there and then you go for breakfast and well first of all you have tone descent. Have you been in the offshore. I've never busy. South of Jaipur. Never been south of J.. Poor okay so it's a mm-hmm is basically it's a large garden. It's a very big territory and has the sections you know divided by devote and Divided by devote. I'm sorry the divided abided by the road like to devote like devotional hall. So yeah it's it's It's really light across to be in the garden so it spent a lot of time outside and the trees and and the birds and the flowers and many happy people in the home so happy very altern smiley people and so after breakfast. What kind of food are they serving Strategic Air in and we had two kinds of Two kinds of Kitchen one was more simple more kind of Indian style. Yes more simple but very good very good quality uh-huh uh-huh and another one was more more for European based line nine more no no more fine cuisine and Very good chefs are. Were working. You know so so many talented people. We're working for the limbaugh or you know and I am falling in love right right now. You sorry if people can't see I am just falling into the Osho spell right now. I am absolutely sanctions. Your words that it was a very rich very very A divine experience yes. I'm sorry if you guys already covered this but you're not paying for any of this right. This is just a community thing thing every words for the same thing or or did you just say or do they ask like say. Hey we need x amount of money to help keep the community going or no in my case Because I had some money aside I had some sill. Money Mean Citibank of Miami and we're just came to Poona. I still had that money show is like a really sorry. I'm sorry nuts. Russia was not in the body anymore. Knows somebody would ask you. Nobody would ask you if you have money or not. You just work for free. You Work for free. They give you a beautiful amazing are coming Dacian for free inside. If you want to live inside you can leave outside as well so I didn't both inside and outside because I like I prefer to have more freedom to choose the truth. You know But Yeah I didn't have to pay for anything. Were you silent. Oh sorry go ahead. Yeah pain but people would just visit. I was working all the time. That's why I have to pay. And then I was given this possibility to go through so learn. Many new things fee trainings. You know. So how does that work when you. Let's say you want to eat you know like do you. Just take what you want or how. How does the transaction work like right if there's no money and you're working for free but they're providing providing all of these things for you? How much is enough like? was there anyone that was like really fat. That was just like I'm GONNA eat all this food constantly every day no no but I I didn't have this voucher for the food. The only thing that ever Spain was the fourth. Actually are you paying for that. Yeah I paid for the food but I know that's true. I looked it up actually in this still today. You you pay for food. I think still paid for the food and but I know that some people are some Sonya's some some people over work in or show resort a vivid not have. Ah any money you know. So they were given this vouchers and then I don't know how they could. How so much dayquil? I never really interested. Yeah basically the commune was pain today for for the food providing food and accommodation and. I'm sorry this is just you know I I I feel like these are very western questions but but it's interesting to me because I western show. I always wonder you know it leaves room for people to take advantage of the Osram itself of Osho Right. You know you have this genuine wonderful little community of people that are all working for one goal. It's the wellness for for everyone together. And it's a very beautiful wonderful thing but then you see someone that's just without and you can't help but think there's gotta be someone that's just like Oh free stuff all right cool. There's a freeway to live. I can just sit and do this stuff and just take advantage of these people and bounce. Did you ever witness that or was there ever a feeling of that in the community to those people ever come around or you know just people that with negative intentions as you've noticed that ever because it's it's for me. It's very easy to see that happening when you have someone. That's very willing to give you everything you do. kind of welcome in that negatively to you know well I remember honestly speaking proably they were people were taking advantage but Off Aw what I can remember that. Our soul naive when I came to or shown resort. Meditation Tation Tino I was very naive I was Thinking everyone would be my master. We're just this going my teacher if anyone took advantage of the commune I think if they did then It would be noticed because you cannot hide this things you know in the in this environment environment you know you were actually exposed everyday sometimes too much exposed you know so. I think if somebody would take advantage advantage then they had to deal with the authorities of the of the place not with us you know and how did how did that work like I mean and let's say you know you're just you're just not following the rules. You're just not being a person like do they. Just do they banish you like you know like how does Oh yeah. I think that some people have to leave the the community. Know The commune the Well they they don't call it ostrom anymore and for for the simple reason. It's not really an ostrom anymore. It was a nostrum one and in the body I think They would yeah they would be escort. Yes but not like in front of everyone. I think people were sometimes maybe Given some time out of the Komo commune and they and then in some cases people could come back. You know I heard the Soyuz warriors but never yeah. I think it's natural if somebody is not following the rose because you need the rules in such a big community you don't follow them with Zen actually at our place. It was a problem so people would either be getting out of Rehab or they'd be getting out of jail and they wanna come to the temple and just Kinda fuck around you know and they just think sitting around all day and you know like zen meditation and just kind of eat. Vegetarian walk around a lot of people also just new age. The people coming thinking they can just kind of walk around the forest. And then Kinda hang out do some meditation the way that we would combat that over the the tap without we administration. But there's a schedule and you have to do every single thing on that schedule and it means on time your ashes on the cushion and you're cleaning dishes you're doing the work. Everyone hated work. And that's how an and it would really shove a lot of people out. They would just leave on their own accord. Oh yeah I I think Same thing but also there were two kinds of people the people who were working in leaving inside black myself and then there were just visit. There's the people who were. Just come for a day of meditation or some workshops trainings you know we we were we were pretty. We were so you had you had a kind of contrast is there. I'm sure and so we were pretty where I see we. This is N. temple was pretty wary about people with mental health issues especially addiction. I am careful with that kind of thing because people coming in thinking. That zen or spirituality is going to solve their psychological problems like this. This is the answer to everything. Were very traditionally ZANU. It's like saying well go see a therapist. Maybe first and then kind of you know level out and then see. Do you know if you're still yearning for some kind of you know something would you. Then I know places readily take people that have kind of even schizophrenic nick kind of Tendencies Addictions and that kind of thing. Would you guys except like we really put through the ringer at least in this interview processes with the administration the station for people. Who'd come to the temple? We'd never had more than five people at a time so it wasn't some big plays but would you would temple allow these kinds of initiates in Dan. Willy Nilly really depends had all kinds of people all kinds of people with many problems albums and some problems were hidden until they would start To do some training or some workshops some grove piano but there will always some some kind of would start doing sports. Yeah yes and actually in the beginning the beginning of my time in now I was actually working working in the information desk. You know I was enquiring people. We had this kind of from list of questions. You know like Julia Roberts. Yeah we had this inquiry questions about mental callous as well so some people were very honest you know about son Zahn problems and Some people were still a medication. So we've we've worked suggest to do some groups and some not for them you know so. There was always a support the system somehow so if people would have problem you can not hide it. You know so yes I had a very good therapists you know. Yes and who are the people you could. They would not let in who. What kind of situations that? Well the people who would just because we have certain rules we have to wear this Maroon wound rob during the day and then in the evening you had to wear this vital for the white robe brotherhood. Meditation and some people ooh would not follow the rules where something different and being trained to be the different own percent chance to kind of rebellious and that would not be accepted a toll because didn't make sense. Actually you know what about the community in Poona like how would they perceive you guys at the Temple Temple or at the You said it's a resort. You mean like the locals. Yeah like the people that aren't participating that aren't part of the the community community that you're in you know. Did you feel judged at all. Were they very accepting of it. You know like how did that. How did that play into things? Well you know when I came in two thousand. This place was already so famous us since Seventy s sure the Indian Gurus. I mean there were her different kinds of reactions. You know and many local people. They benefited so much from this place. You know. Because business was just flourishing in we were just supporting actually local businesses local people people. All the rickshaw drivers were so excited. You know actually I never fell felt from the local people. I never did the only time when I I did. I did something wrong. I went to the city out side. This our community and I was wearing this maroon role and in India only only monks are actually wearing this Maroon Rolls Royce and locals. Were looking at me Kinda strange. They like to. I like that that feeling of provoking people as well you know. There's there's a lot in this John in this years of being there me and we would like to provoke to push push a little bit. Okay Yeah but but after actually older ladies and Jazz and she saw me walking on the streets you know and saw In a way a bit arrogance you know and she came to me and she told me you know You know the voice of our place. You don't go out wearing the role you were only inside and somehow I understood custodes that it just -tupid just to you. You don't prove anything by just wearing this rove outside the outside the gate. You know true. So I mean that's a big that's a big conception or misconception about auto show and oceans followers is definitely the provoking spirit. You know. Listen I'm going to tell you my opinion from coming from Osho reading one of the best books books on relationships. I I've ever read totally confirming what I already believe about. Not Relying on your partner for your happiness but really generating it within yourself. L. From Meditation and being alone first and foremost and then sharing your leftover love so to speak with the world. So you don't ask for it back DOC. You're building your own tanks of love up. I really love it. It's amazing and still in my and I'm extremely open. Mind when it comes to like Gurus Bruce and things like this. He's in my opinion. Osho is is a total rascal. He is absolutely provoking. And I think that's part of it. I want to back this up by saying I don't know what would happen to me if I had hundreds of thousands of followers if I've obviously had some depth of wisdom and awareness it just didn't exist also convincing other people have it showing that other people in themselves. I don't know who I'd become. And I guarantee that when I come out of a seven day a retreat and I felt I've woken. I see once again that I'm not responsible for other people completely free. Everything's just coming at mean beaming at me. Just it's happening it's happening. I don't I really don't give a shit about a lot of this stuff. I used to care about big part of that is like not trying to insult people in not trying to. Oh I don't want to make sure I don't again. So that is huge as such a huge liberation to stop worrying about all that stuff so I can only imagine now I see pre provocation. I mean the fricken. The Rolls Royces. How what other clues shade famous thing in you know? Is there with Osho. But he's poking at people. You know kind of stirring them up. Is this something. How do you feel about this? I don't know what I'm asking. Angel Angel what am I asking here. You know it's it's that materialism right like you think that these communities are so far beyond the the Rolls Royce. The the the the Nice you know Nice clothing an airplane you know this this very materialistic stick things you know like for me when I hear the word Auch Raum are here community and and things like that. I feel like such an escape from all of that. You know because we're just like we're clinging to these things that are bullshit in our life and I mean that's definitely a question that I mean. Something mean he'd be insured. I've talked about before is when you see those things right. You see those things within your community. How how how are you? Perceiving how are you perceiving those materialistic items you know that That will surround someone of the higher stature like that the community like what is thought out of that. Well you know from my point of view way. We were generally working for the community. Not Making any money you know. Actually I was spending all my money but on food but but no nobody asked me to do invest in something I it. It was very But you see this happening but you see this happening you see this kind of excess or at least you knew about it because you didn't meet Osho what was kind of what was is that we got to know. I mean obviously the opinion outside my God so the Ada side all I can say that Whatever was whatever you could see the or shows Rolls Royces and very expensive watches and stuff like that and airplanes as I know nothing was belonging to Kim? Actually he lived very simple life if you know and he was As I know he was eating every day. Very simple food like daal and dry since some subcess objects some vegetables and he was just enjoying like a kid because Many of his disciples of this Anna's one to to kind of donate to him for the Astros and he was just enjoying but I'm hundred percent. Sure that he was not attached to any of this. Because you need a you know he was far beyond that I guess that kind of read you know. Basically agreed he was provoking. Oh Kim people by not been this kind of a Combo Guru. You know just simple dress but he was just showing it. The extreme of capitalism. You know what was. Yeah what was that four. What was that provocation for? I think to make people understand that. It's nothing it doesn't make any any sense and doesn't have any volume. The real value is actually actually and he was actually talking about rich and poor people and he was saying that when you are very bored toward the last thing you need is meditation you need to feed yourself and your family. So he was not advocating there that in in order to be spiritual you have to be poor and when I came to this also communities around the role because I leave Tulsa in community in in Miami later on and Boulder Colorado and You know When I was just enquiring about or show vote many spiritual people you know the divert telling me that all people are so materialistic chilies and Blah Blah Blah and the and sex and rock and roll but nothing of this but but also so you have to? Actually you have to think about your material. can It's not expression if you are not living in the cave off to eat you have to have a shelter yes you know. So ORSHA was North against the world nothing race that and that's what I we'll say about. Oh show is that you can look but you hear what he says just like you said. It's like dude. You know a poor person. You're not go to say poor person WHO's starving say. Oh don't worry about it just meditate. You know kind of it. That's not I mean it makes complete sense in in that way it almost goes. Oh yeah of course that makes sense so so then you'd have to feel bad for being hungry like Oh. I shouldn't be hungry. I should be meditating. No go ahead and and and And and get the strength to be able to use this power that the human mind has which is the power of introspection and but if you're starving that's all you're thinking about is is starving. That's impossible so words really cut through. And that's what makes him so all resist. I was also talking about people with money. You know how fucked for them young. Yeah people with money and they feel so unhappy noise so then then you cannot find happiness in seen this as well so but is there something that community. Because I think it's so ingrained in human nature right that you're you're doing really well and then you have x Y and Z thing and it. It doesn't necessarily need to be a car or watches or any of that stuff but just like say a room you know like I wanna live in a bigger room. That guy gets a live in a bigger room. I want what he has like. I just feel that that is just a natural the thing that humans do and then you get this jealousy and then that kind of spoils the beautiful message that you do get that. Because I've I've again I've in a very minimal way. I've heard what Osho says I've heard these wonderful words and it's it doesn't make sense you know like as a human being on my on. It's so wonderful. And then that's so beautiful but then you forget about those like small shit that you're just like well. What if I WANNA live in a bigger place you know like like do I just say oh I want to live in a bigger place now can just give me a bigger place to live and it was just like well? That doesn't it doesn't work like that and it's just like I want that in the community you mean is in the community one hundred percent. You know it's just like I want. I want bigger and better things for myself as just me. You know and I know that's selfish standpoint but it just like how does that. How does that fit? Like what do you do when you're in those communities like what do you do if you want more you go and meditate and just watch your jealousy what your judgment and watch your for all your stuff you know and if in the world let's say outside the gates of this beautiful community you can hide your self under the mosque that the no. You're not jealous. Your you know your free of jealousy or you're not judging urine nice person so in this community you could not hide it actually because everything is just so exposed you know and when it's exposed it's exposed to you you was. Well you see yourself to be jealous to be judgmental to be to be not. It's very nice person as you thought you are. You know and it's a very good. So you use that use for meditation. You go and meditate great. So what if you want to become the next. Oh show like you know. What if that's like your your your desire I may I know? It's a very arrogant arrogant thing to say but it's just like let's say you want that you're like I want to influence people. I want to be this giant ball of love that everyone can depend on and that people can in come to me and that I can inspire more people. Is that an egotist. I mean it sounded when I say it. It sounds like a typical. But is that an egotistical thought to have to just want a better everything and everyone else and is your desire to get rid of that and just be like no. You shouldn't be thinking that way. You should just be you and if you you are Oh show than you are if you're not you're not telling. Yeah no I I think. There's so many enlightened beings in this wall right now you know in India India and abroad in the West EU in America you have very great alive musters that I am listening listening to a lot. You know and Do think they they just one. They decided that they want to be great. Enlighten musters other things. So you know. And if people desire that it's coming purely from the Eagle for sure I I remember this is this is this is one of the funniest thing I was going through a very hard time in my life and I I was picking up someone from the the airport and I was going through a lot of introspective things and I remember seeing this Buddhist monk and I got really excited and I ran up to him. I'm saying how can I talk to you for five minutes. He's like yeah. Of course he spoke pretty good English and And we sat and we chatted and I was like man you know I thought about so many times in my life just giving it all up going into a Buddhist temple and just living my life like that and he's just like Oh. Well what are you doing now and I was like well. I'm trying to be an actor. He's like oh well. Does that make you happy and I was like well. Yeah I love I love acting as just like why. Don't you just do that and I'm just like well L. because it's it's La and it's just you know it's all about money and bullshit and he's just like well listen. He's like to know why I'm a Buddhist monk and I was like why he's like because I I love being a Buddhist monk. That's what I want out of life. He's like you can be a Buddhist and do anything you know you can believe in anything and do anything you want if oh you truly want to do but don't just go and move to a temple because you think it's the right thing to do. He's like just do what you want to do in life. Just be a good human being about it and you'll be happy and it it. It kind of bummed me out and but it was the best advice I ever gotten from anyone in my entire life. It was just you know be a good human being focus on that and everything will be fine. But but don't lie to yourself you know if you want something wanted it's okay you know but just don't you know don't go crazy You know always I just angel. We have to take a commercial break. I'm sorry go for it. That was a joke. Very Nice Angel Very Nice. So would you still thinking about being Buddhist monk I think about up throwing it all away every once in a while but now now less and less because I have my daughter. It's like what am I gonNA do. You know I'm responsible for another life. If but it's an appealing idea. It's such a sexy idea. It's just like just just living life enjoying life life for what it is because everything just seems like a joke you know like I'm just like I pay rent. I pay for bills. Do all these things and and it just seems like I'm wasting time like wouldn't it be great to just like wander somewhere and explore and be like. Oh that's something I've never seen before that's awesome. I'M GONNA go look at tap for like an hour and then walk away. You know the only thing I have to do is eat sleep. P. And shit. That's it right like go to wherever wherever you go there you are. I've been wandering a long time when you go there you are. I love this shit to look at this microphone. Look at the a place like I. I do suffer from enjoying the materialistic things that that just give me like this temporary joy and it sucks because they feel guilty for enjoying it and I just I still don't know how to I'm still trying to figure out how to deal with that every day. That's rough man. So you get wrap you get wrapped up in your own judgments about your judgments about you know. Never like I said what what do you think about that. What do you think about what should i? What was your question again about that? I just throw it all away and moved to go and be in temple right and and and then you're feeling bad for enjoying your life and that's really what all this stuff is about is about. We're on our backs so much about all this stuff. We're on our own case about simply simply enjoying life you know what's funny is the the the one thing that I attribute to not doing that. My daughter is also the one thing that brings me the most this joy because when she's here and I talked to her and she sits and she laughs she just has this time. It's totally eh natural. We could be living in squalor and I could be in this the worst financial. And she is so unaware of all of that Shit and she's he's just naturally having this wonderful moment with me and her and she just enjoying life and it's just it just brings me to that realization that no matter what situation you're in you can literally let that shit go and you can just enjoy something and be natural and just be true to yourself as best you can do you know. Sometimes you're GONNA fall in that pit and you're gonNA fuck up and you're gonNA be materialistic and you're going to be stupid but then you just have to realize that you're doing it and then just go just forget it to just enjoy. Just put a smile on your face and enjoy life because this this is their andy. How can angel do this? How can Angel Angel wants? He's obviously speaking the truth here. How can he do this India? Well you know. I'm sure that if destined if it's your destiny to leave the materialistic life and go to live in the Buddhist temple. Oh he can't show then it will happen you know you don't have to be But he but he is thinking about it and he is confused and he goes back and forth. What can angel do right now? What can you do right now to ask himself the self why his not enjoying his life at this because he's in the right place everyone is in the right place right now? Oh and maybe your child your daughter right but he doesn't realize that he doesn't realize he's in the right place call. How how old is your daughter? She's three yeah so that's the time when kids are really leaving the tourist expression of themselves. Not because they're not programmed yet and they live in the moment you know and if you start got to leave in the moment more without fantasizing how you live could be then you will enjoy more. That's my outside. Yeah I mean it's like it's like it's kind of like telling a depressed person though. Just be happy. You know what I do and I'm depressed. I just think of good things you know and it doesn't really help you know it just doesn't really these are these are universal right but I mean these are universal truths. What you're saying is true but the problem is that's exactly the problem is we? Don't see it that way a person who's and I'm not saying I'm saying no that's bullshit I'm saying that's the problem so instead of just saying you're in the perfect moment this is exactly. Everything's happening right now. Now people go. Yeah but you know then. What is this really always my question? That's how I'm trying to like approach helping people people okay. They want that they want that realization. They want to see life this way right and they want to do in. Obviously it doing something gets in the way of seeing it. So it's like it's ironic and it's an oxymoron. It's dualistic but what like for you you move to a temple what can angel do in his life right now and if you don't have any suggestions I understand. But what could he do. Maybe chicken ask himself what what what you really want in your life. What do you want you know? Because I didn't have a choice. I didn't have a choice choice. You know I just knew I have to go to India and no matter what you know. Even if I didn't have money that moment life would provide you know. I was so sure that what I'm doing is just and how were you feeling right before right before you had that calling. How are you feeling feeling how how were? How is your mental psychology emotional? How was I was confused? That didn't know what to do. Was it very in live. Was it very profound and intense or was it just kind of a general like nine to us. They very performed an intense. Yeah I was very unhappy than happy so you you had to go through something to finally make you go okay. Yeah I'm ready. I'm ready for this right. Yeah Yeah you have to be very unhappy. I think to change the way you you see yourself in life. You know if you're kind of like your K- here but you want somebody else first of all you you really some judging what this mock told you enjoy your life you know. Enjoy your material anyway waiver. It's it's it's a gain totally it's a game you just haven't gone through enough shit man you know okay well but I wish you NGO to who said WHO said I wish I. It's not that I I think I've gone through my fair share of Shit. I just don't think what is the answer for us. The answer for me absolutely no what I'm saying being like I and I mean that with all due respect I can say to me. Is that using to either one of you. You know it's I. Oh I think that's that's the truth that God from that conversation with that monk is that I thought I look at him and I say he's he's got together he doesn't have fear he doesn't have this want or need for things that I wish I didn't but at the same point I mean you know I was so turned around like when I when I my life totally fell apart and I I went to South America thinking. I'm just going to change. I'm going to change the person I am. I'm going to change my environment and being in a different country. This is going to resolve all these issues that I have with the United States and the things that I have here. Maybe it's just Central Charlton location. In my life got worse it got way worse and then and then I came I went to school. I got my shit together and I ended up in a pretty good spot. I I mean I don't know what I still probably don't know what I'm looking for is a final answer but I guarantee you know I'm still scared I'm I'm still. I'm still very scared person and I want that to get better but I don't think going to a nostrums going to fix that. I don't think sitting and meditating. Every single day is GonNa fix fix that. I think if I go to the Ostrom I'm just GonNa find another community that I'm going to look at and be like well. This isn't perfect so I don't WanNa do this anymore and I'm GonNa move onto something else but how do you feel about all this. You're fine with this. I kind of accepted as I'm human. You know there's just good good this this is just how I'm I'm choosing to to do my existence but but I want more. I want to Tim Moore and Joe. Can I can tell you something. Please be honest you know that. That was my opinion as well when I came to the show and I went to other places like Some Buddhist uh-huh Meditation Centers. I was thinking that they got it. You know they got the recipe of happiness. You don't they don't have fear and they're not scared of life you know. And they don't have judgement then. There's the perfect but it's it's not true with our projection as I think as soon as we have this human human form you know. It's very human to doubt ourselves in the one. Be Scared of light. So it's very human so I think we'll have to embrace that. No can I ask. Where are you now like? You're not anymore. No No. I'm in my own ostrom. Created my own show. I'm here. I'm in Latvia. It's a very little country in the north of Europe. It's very little very small country country very beautiful cold. Yes I am because I am living life I want want. I don't allow anyone to decide for me. I decide my life how I cannot be happy beef. I decide to live my life the way I want always since I was I took Chal initiation since since I took Sonia's name Sonya initiation. I'm doing what I want. You know so I'm happy for you and not compromising you know. How is it with your friends? You do you move through like okay so you came back after eight years years and you're kind of I mean obviously you must have. Could you have left the temple within that are sorry we left the resort within that eight years they can leave and come back as you please kind of thing or how did that work. I left the place which place resorts in Poona. You could leave and go home for the holidays things like this or did you. Could you could go around. And meanwhile in those eight eight years have run to America I lived as I mentioned before I lived in two or Sha communities in Boulder and Miami and then I came back Ivan back till Puna. Yeah Free them known not not there runoff condition. So so you would meet people that you knew before who were not into this kind of thing. Nothing more actually taper. My friends changed very much. You know so. The old friends worth not committing anymore. You know there was no somehow. They're not crossing each other pause than you know. So my life change my friends exchange of course in the beginning in those eight years. I was Mostly I was mostly surrounded by Sanaa's Oceania's and there was also a little bit kind of a differentiating. You you know. Yes yes since separating yourself yes yes yeah but I think that segregating A. Yeah but I think it was It was just a time of kind of just you know sure. It's almost like us us and hoping mechanisms to kind of hoping and also making the breach in between the spiritual and the material will just. That's always very difficult for me. Getting out of retreats again. You're eight years. It's different thing but really integrating the grading that into my normal life only friends and all the problems that I wanted to solve you know and now I come back with this wisdom and I think can solve all these problems now which actually some of them get solved but then others suck you right there. Yeah Yeah did you go through in many times many times I couldn't stand everything from the from the material world. I couldn't stand it. I was judging very much. You know I see I see yes but it changed. Yes it changed. I had to kind of re enter that vote in. Oh yes and so. I don't see the difference anymore. What made you want? That's amazing by the way And that's very freeing in fact that ego stays with us in so many secrets secret. Sneaky ways you know and and really. It's that's part of the fun actually is continuing to shine light on those parts. I know I'm getting a little little funny money now but this is what I believe. Shine lights on those part of ourselves and coming out of that darkness as this ever blooming ever-growing process and it never ends and it's is actually really awesome because every time you you as I say shine light and bloom your blooming more and more and it's like I can see now I see now in that really. It seems to never end. There's always some little nook you know that you can shine light on and just kind of free yourself from so. That's great. That's great. I hope you agree with that. I don't know but when did you decide to leave what what made you finally say okay. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to get out of this Situation from Torna or from India from India from Poona from out from being a quota residential sin Yassin or even even like heavily day program. Kind of thing. Yeah you know I was so much in love with the place with the community it was also a very safe place you know and you just have this fitting that everybody understands you. You're on the same page and you can share share You have a lot of support you know you felt like you are really supported and safe you know and then then something happened. I don't remember exactly what but I think they wanted me to assist in some groups groups in some breath group. It's very intense. It's very Cathartic I've done that. It's been and and actually actually I said no because I felt like no. I don't want to do it. You know because at that time I was already including my own workshops and own. I started to be therapist in in in in this mystery. School in Social Commune and I studied meditation and hypnosis and Yoga Awesome so I didn't feel like going into some group as an assistant and go through this Catharsis gain so I didn't feel like I felt like no I don't WanNa do it again. The three rebellious spirit and I think Somebody didn't like it and they said you know. Then maybe you take a break from this. Yeah after eight years. They had to take a break believable. Well Yeah because actually you know yeah. There are certain rules that you have to do so. If you want to live and work in this community you grew it in a way. It was a very right time to go out and spread actually pushes teaching not just to scream about it but just by sharing what I learned you know I was. I was very excited again because it was a new stage in my life. I was going going into the big wall to gain you know and very marketplace at yes and very insecure in the beginning. Because I didn't know talk to communicate and my vocabulary changed very much. You know now I was India. You know and I knew this new kind of a way of expressing yourself a normal people would be on a weirds me. Maybe you're not sure so. I had to to learn the game to be involved but not to build the wall not to belong and not getting older I Avenue Se. It was so difficult it was tricky. You know it's it's yeah but at the same uncommon it was very you know what you learn in all show rolled in Osho commune total. You know I don't know how to explain that but even when you have fear you he'll go through with you know nothing can stop you really you know you. Don't try to lie to yourself and say Oh. This isn't happening. I'm not afraid if you're afraid don't be afraid. Yeah you are afraid but you are still going through it. You know you're going to your fear and you become much more courageous somehow and much more truthful. You know in the world as well even when people don't unacceptable or don't like it doesn't kill you anymore even when you're hung over K.. Eh One is fun is difficult. Actually when I was in the ozone resort fishes ages are hardly drinking anything. Because you lose this kind of Because you're so high naturally all the time every day you know the fuel you lose this interest. I remember after maybe some years drinking beer shitting one beer with my best girlfriend. She lives in New York. And we got We had such a bad hangover. The bottle you know what it doesn't worth I had one shot one shot yesterday. One shot and I can't tell you how good I feel when I'm not drinking ten days after I'm just like I had one shot in layers of bad news and just like you know it's so hard to like at the moment to just be like okay and the meditate. I'm going through this. You know I'm just field is but I think if you drink some good wines sometime it's okay you know sure. Oh Yeah not absolutely absolutely let me ask you this where people. What are the rules there? Could you like. Could you have sex with someone getting a relationship with someone on campus in in In Poonam like an open again in the field hands and walk around no scores. Okay Okay and you could go in each other's rooms and things like this I think so. It's no it's not this typical into his uh shown where men and women have to be. You had to be separate you know shudder. Like that's why I choose or Sean sure. There were no uh-huh Before I went to Buddhist centers before I came to a show years I went to Buddhist centers. I went to some Fingers kind of centrist. You know nothing was feeling like It didn't feel like it's honest. Somehow you know and I didn't feel like I belong there. Because there's so many distractions you know. I think there's a a lot of yes I think that's a suppressant. I think that's a lot of problem that people have on the outside with the Osha community is because every even people. I hate it when people say this to me. They say Oh 'cause enormous in Buddhist they go oh Jordan. That's not a very Buddhist thing to do. I mean I don't hate it obviously but it's like that's not a very Buddhist thing to do and like I say it's like like it's like saying well that's not a very karate thing to do or you know that's not a very it's another ping pong player thing to do. Yeah Yeah Jack Right. Check our Our points of view right so anything to anyone. Yeah and I think that's a lot of people's problem with it and then that's also the huge welcoming benefit of something like this is because you realize like I say I'm one of the people who say. Oh they're they're ecstatic dancing and they're doing all this but once you realize it's okay you go. Yes thank God. I'm free of Bullshit Bullshit. Total suppressing like Oh. I don't WanNA ask her out. Oh she doesn't. She doesn't want people to ask her out. You know things like this guys realize realized they can they can be attracted to women you know and just be like. Oh it's okay you know it's. It's a huge huge thing huge. Both you know I just want to mention one thing about or Shou commune or resort that you know when when you're in the beginning you're so happy to express yourself in. Yes it's all about expressing yourself in meditation in some groups robes therapy groups. You know you're kind of seeing taking out layers and layers of conditioning and finally you feel like you're free to express yourself but this is really only the beginning. Yes not or shows. Teachings are not bought expressing yourself freely. It's just it's really step one now. The mind the mind is open for for the next But then you have to when you become more and more aware you know then certain things you just don't WanNa do you know you don't want to impress anyone you don't want to express yourself anymore you know you who's that interest it's childish in totally totally yes. Yeah we're now. What was kind of the biggest problem like what were the biggest rule breakers acres people? Were doing over there. If I might ask we're running out of time a little bit but I did want to get into it just a little bit of this. Well I think the people people who are working there were skipping some meditations and that was saw. Yes yes if you are living in this place your their form into tation yes otherwise. Why would you go to leave their? Yes you know so I think that was Were there drug problems drinking problems. Anything like that people sneak it away party and things like this or is that we had the farthest in the evenings. Thanks we had very good. Dj's we actually. We danced a lot drinking drinking drinking. Not Not much. I didn't. Let's see really drunk people and if you had to drink or do drugs I think you could do outside. I didn't see it much. Okay okay interesting interesting. What were the rules? Basically show up on time to the required practice work. Do your work. If you're living there and working king what were what were the rules. Some of the other rules there. They had not much march. You you had to. You had to evolve obviously in those years you know you had to go. Let me ask him and an old environment was in the support of your Growing consciously you know so if somebody would just stay the same like like some boys. Some guys were retracing. The goal is all the time you know. And not meditating not be interested in now imitation surely probably would be asked to leave or not respecting not respecting place right. Okay Okay and so I wanna ask you this and I wanna I WANNA get Just want to get your reaction to it. What what what do you have? You seen the documentary wild wild country. Yeah while I was in Rishikesh actually to go. Yeah what did you think of that. Well you know I've personally I just WANNA say this number one. I don't think radio show with anything but but just this kind of but when I saw it I cried bridal. I was very much. I was very touched. Actually by all this I think it was a very beautiful very courageous Dream and I could see both sides. Somehow I never. I never thought I could understand those Americans reckons inaugurals local people. You know sure. Yeah but yeah but could see the other side of the gates you know and I could see the way it was going it could not coexist you know. How did you feel about that side? Sad I think I see I think many mistakes I was watching. You said I was very sad. Yeah I was very sad for both because people were working so much inside the Bush to make that place It to make that place like was insured. That's yeah I totally I totally get that. Because you know it's it's weird they their mindset is so positive and just like Oh. We're doing this amazing great thing. A you almost WANNA just share it with everyone one but the problem is that none of the people I think in that community were wanting to it too accepting of it so it's just like it's it's almost like they feel like Oh. These people are trying to jam it down our throats and they're coming at them just like oh come on. This is so wonderful we want you to have such a great life with us. And everyone's like the hell are you talking about. I'm fine get the hell away for main. Well that's the biggest problem and but now I can see at the the communities the spiritual communities like ashrams they have to really respect respect the the community it's a outside and really Not to provoke them actually to respect they believes. Yeah even if you don't agree with their beliefs you know you have to respect them. Does the sign of a a avail spirituality. I think you know kid do. Can you tell me at the time in two thousand to two thousand eight Obviously the documentary did not come out in his last question. Alaska documentary Did did the. I can't remember the that kind of villain of the documentary to remember her name. The she was CA- Must Sheila did. She have any kind of reputation a over there or was there anything known about anything Yeah Ah really okay even before this. Wow ye-ye-yeah ousted from the. Wow okay interesting. Yeah I just wanted I. I'm just curious about that. That's all very manipulator very well I think Maybe even not conscious spots what she was doing for look fanatic. You know kind of some kind of some kind. Yeah for sure the amazing. That's that's my fear of that stuff is just you know you get to that point and again you just allow these snakes because because you're so welcoming and your so warm and even Osho you know being that's what I'm saying. It's just like you know you have someone that's saying all these wonderful and beautiful awful things that he's just so open and he's so willing to let people come in and if you get someone it's just so easy when you're that loving of a person to invite someone in that just like oh he can. He doesn't even see what I can do to make a whole bunch of money you know it's just so just welcomes those people that take advantage. That's why one of my first questions was. Did you ever see people like that. And it's almost like that's a perfect her. She is a perfect example. I love that it's so easy to sneak into a community of people that are so willing to be like. Oh come come. I don't care where you've come from. Yeah come come in. We'll we'll we'll we'll ask you some questions you'll work you'll you'll be amongst people that love you but then their their mindset is just really. They're they're lying to you and your mindset is just like well if they're lying that's on them it's not really on me but then the damage you and it's just like Oh my God. What is this person Don? Yeah unfortunately they will be always this kind of people you know you cannot protect yourself but even in your life you know you. It'll have to go to the astrum to this kind of deep. Only though you don't they're everywhere you can be in the wall the this kind of people fallen then but this is this is what kind of sucks about life right is that you can. You can take one of two ways and I try to and I really do I swear swear to God I try to preach this to myself is that those people will always exist so I don't need to worry about them. There's a certain certain amount of protection I needed to have myself to not allow them to take advantage of me but what I think sucks and what I think what happens to most of the world is that you get these people. Aw come into your life they poison you and then you become so protective to just try to avoid them that you end up pushing everyone and everything else out because you're just like the best way to protect myself is to almost be a jerk about it you know. You can't be this genuine person that you want to be and I just it breaks. My heart is a very interesting question. I really feel that that happens just to keep people away. You know you have to kind of you know like a bit shield and chooses you it changes your but then if you keep keep going you know if you keep enquiring you know nobody can really the damage you you know. The soul cannot be staying can damage. You can damage your personality. Yes yes but of course In so many people come to the Austrian covert abused and the CIA audible in many ways. You know sexually. Psychologically many horrible things and those people Are Actually they're much foster to open up and to to be vulnerable. Yeah but not only vulnerable but Those people are much more foster Determined to transform their lives. You know one hundred percent agree with because because that's that's how I've I've allowed myself to be okay with everything like anything that's negative. That's happened to me. I'm just not afraid to talk about it with anybody. If any if you ask me any question I'll answer it honestly like I'll always answer you honestly I'll be like yeah. This is what happened. This is high. Felt it sucked. But it's so therapeutic. It's the most therapeutic thing in the world is not. Allow yourself to hold any of that in to anyone. You know someone just ask you a question. I mean obviously within. There's there's always a within reason but for the most part if you're just having a genuine conversation and someone asks you something honestly answer them honestly honestly. Don't be afraid if you know this. This happened to me. This was a thing like and I got through it and here I am. I got a smile on my face cup of tea in my hand. I'm good but you know what I noticed by living and working in that place in or show but it's worth the the people depot who suffered most in hats such horrible circumstances in their life much more loving much more compassionate much more human much more spiritual so nothing nothing can break or heart really. Yes it is something you realize going through this. And it's a huge relief. Is everyone talks about yes. But I'm as I have a special condition I went through this and I have special suffering special problems but you realize that this Brahman Brahmin German central whatever MON source you the true I. It really isn't ultimately affected by by that stuff it's suggestive to it but it's not like I say stained you know. And that's a a lovely a lovely lovely lovely realization league's Asian but it doesn't come immediately to you know this is a bit Up there this realization relation Before you go to that You know when you when I when I came to -ocial resort I've went through many therapies apiece. So remember and clean. Don't stop and many many of us don't even remember what happened in our child what you know. So you uncover those ones and you killed them and and you heal them with meditation you know and then you you're you are not with broken heart your with broken open heart you know. It's very different convict some open. Yes you know something about this like I say having people close to you who are manipulative and even Osha was fooled. I would say that that really makes I find it endearing. That Osho was fooled by this person if that was the case because it really shows that the human I'm in it shows that nobody's infallible. No one is God. No one is absolutely frigging perfect and that he is human just as us and it's shows an innocence there as well to see that someone who's so close could be so manipulative. Septic you know to me I don't know I find it quite positive I find it a nice thing for some reason at humanizing right like it's worse for some reason. He allowed her to be there but I am not sure sure. He was aware because he was show for sometimes. He wasn't silenced and he was not really going out of his room. You don't so I'm not sure how much he knew about her manipulations. I don't think he I don't think he. Yeah Anyway so let me let me say this. I want to wrap up here but I wanNA give Osho the last word here I want to ask you. I'm sorry I had to move my phone silly not over here. Let me ask you this. What what is it about Osho? WHO's gained that? He's gained the following shoe dog. I mean I mean it's it's huge following. What makes him different from? Like lineages like large lineages from say like on the the hugging hugging saints or even Jesus Christ in Christianity. What what is really got that I think for you made it at the time or for now the really the thing that says okay I? This is who I'm GONNA listen to. This is what what is what is he got. What's his thing you know? What does he bring into us? You know he included everything. She didn't exclude anything. You know King. His teaching were including the Buddha and the Zorba so the celebration of L. Material Life Life enjoyment of life and meditation together so. He didn't exclude anything. He he was not telling you in order to be spiritual you have to give up this and they send that Yup and he was incredibly charismatic Martic in the very advanced I think and amazing. And then you just find your Q.. It was derived Muster for me and for someone someone needs Alma you know and someone one needed Saba that time you know. Some people were going to say Bob but they say that you know when the disciples ready. The mosser Sir appears so he appeared and for me she was very revolutionary auctioning in spiritual inside the spirituality. Awesome okay well listen. I think we're going to wrap it up here. That was fantastic again India. Thank you very much for coming. Gay See see we got through it. Not Too much controversy. Not Too much like we did. We did good. I think we did pretty good good. I don't know if I mentioned that I I really deep fell in love with those show and only when you fell in love with your Mostra with your teacher with your guide Dan then something can really transforming you should stay. That's my feeling you know. Yeah Yeah like those years will well listen. It's hard to our relation ship. Yes even those humorously amazing definitely. I've felt him and so present and until today every day is very prison in my life. Well guys now you've heard it. You've heard it straight from the Sun Johnson's mouth. You can't say anything to anybody about nothing. Because you've heard the real story here so hopefully we've given you some insight and some clarity to this. This rajneesh character you know yeah. I love that. He's full of controversy. I actually love it. You know there was a time time. I thought he was charlatan. And all this stuff but I mean you can't help but just be blown away by the clarity and real reality in the sense that he makes when he talks about stuff yup and like you said all inclusive you know it's close close. I mean this whole thing about being poor. Poor person doesn't need meditation. I mean come on that makes that makes a lot of sense there. So that's his style. That's how it goes. I really hope that she's helped. You get the straight story here you you know and what can I say. I think you've done a great job. Thank you very much India for you for inviting me. Thank you awesome. We did it. I want to give you the opportunity to let people know what you're doing in your life or if you have anything you'd like to To to invite people to join you in Including your contact tech information. Do you have anything happening in your life that you wanNA share with people right now in terms of doing very normal life Break now. I'm married in Latvia Injury Gum and I created my own Inside my house US Great and I have a studio Meditation Yoga Studio and I love what I do. You know really enjoying breath every day of my life yes every lesson joy in are you inviting. Are you teaching people. Are you inviting people to join you with this In any way yeah We have yoga classes and meditation nations. And then I I also invite people to come with me to India so I bring on Little Group A to go off every year because warm and it's tropical and people can have fun as well. It's more like Voshel way. You know the meditate taste and have fun as well so we meditate. We do yoga in the very beautiful resort in the Modern Gore Jeevan resort and And we have fun. We go to concerts. We go to the party. Don't drink much because some because meditates the states in without meditate in the morning song. But it's enough. It's enough fun and excitement without drinking. Actually what and how can people get in touch with you if they want to contact and maybe ask you about these. Oh well they probably can go to my facebook account India Divall Board to my website which is right balance doth ye ooh Dot Edu Dot e U K for a European Union. Everybody so I will include those in the description if if anyone would like to get a hold of it anyway what is going on. What is that in your hand? You have there what. What have you been? It's al-shemaliya brand grand nine. When I get this Sonya sinicisation Sonya sound celebration? They one summer day in Italy when it got this name named India. And that's the one the one you got does the one. Thank God really. Wow okay fantastic okay. So she's still l. this whole time Osho in her hands or in the hands of Osho perhaps potato produce I went to different masters and now I have Other masterson my life core in the body inquire can go to and drink the wisdom from the sages this amazing sages uh-huh and economic the questions. Osha does not jealous about this. I don't think so no. I think he was actually mentioning. When I'm gone? Find somebody who can You know who can support for your questions. Russian people. Yeah absolutely wonderful I love it. You are beautiful. Look at her. She's beautiful folks. I promise you if you if you haven't even seeing this video of of wonderful India talking about this incredibly mysterious and enlightening man. You can check. Check it out on youtube channel bravely mistaken And all its forum India. I'm GONNA say goodbye. Thank you so much for joining us. It's been fantastic mastic and Hey maybe we can get on next time about your current master. We can get going with with that. Maybe not thank you very much. Okay thank you for being kind. Let us commit difficult questions. Thank God thank God you think this thank you you you're very kind Thank you very much all right. My dear all right India farewell. We'll see you again to care. Bye Bye bye bye. Bye Bye unbelievable angel my goodness God why goodness she's just such a sweet sweet person. What do you think man? I mean what it. What do you think's going on here with Give me your impressions. Oh show before and after tell talk to me here You know I kinda just have the same opinion as I did before. Okay and what's that it's a community you know it's just how you're choosing to perceive and go about life. I think really I think his message. is great. It works for me but at the end of the day you know they're still structure. You know there's still. Hey you have to do this. We have to do this because it's just a community of people and people are people and we're all going to need certain things were all going to have to do certain things to get by. You know we can't just all sit in the hills and meditate all day and then expecting succumb to us. There's some harsh realities in life that you have to. You have to endure and then you have to do But I I think it's it's positive You know I think it's great thing it's what about Osha the man before and after. Oh Man I don't know you know that that it's so hard that documented really does change you it is. It's I mean. He had a reputation before just the way he talks and just the way he the way he talks like this. You're here's a half into burris very naturally you know he talks very slow and then documentary came and it's just like shit you know I think in doing doing the people that follow Osho Justice. I think it's okay to say this. I think that no matter what opinion you have of him as a man right as a human being I think you cannot negate the positive things that he did say I you know I think no matter what it is if you think that he he was a very materialistic manipulative person. It's just like okay. Well you know that that's your opinion and I can't change it but you cannot not negate that the guy did definitely have some very positive and beautiful things to say and that he did help people you know. What do you think of the Rolls Royces? ROLLS-ROYCES I get it. You know I guess I think I understand a little bit that the more invoking reaction from people thing but I just want to know if I was part of that community if I said hey can I just take that baby out. You know for a Saturday night. Upbringing one of them one one one one for each foot roll rolls. Roller skated borrow the damn car. O Show if you would've let me do it. I think I would have been a little bit. Chillier role roles are skating. I'm not GonNa say the joke anymore. Okay well there's not much to say Yeah it got a little sticky there with the whole like oh by the way I was never imposing that you haven't been to. I'm saying one in general hasn't been through talk to me. Of course he did but no I mean that includes you but I know I know who the hell everyone gets into what works for you and what doesn't actually. We have very contentious views on that. What works for this person that I actually? I have a pretty universal thing about. Obviously you know this about me about what works for people. I think very few things work for everybody. I think meaning there are a few things that will work for everybody but yeah anyway that got a little sticky. That was a little fun unknown. That's that's that's typically a lot when you're doing these spiritual discussions like an Indian stuff like this. That happens a lot. You get really contentious with people about like about methods and things like this. It could get quite interesting seaport headley that's awesome. That's awesome thing you're supposed to. I think you're supposed to a question. You're supposed to challenge. If anything that I that I that I have grown a little bit more respect for after this is the fact that you know I felt felt. She was saying that you know she was saying it's not this. Restrictive thing this restrictive practice. You're supposed to question and I love that I don't really consider it a religion but if I'm comparing it it's one of the things that I love. It just doesn't feel restrictive. I can question. It's okay to question. It's okay catered debate. It's okay to argue. You know you just have to come come from a place of love and understanding and wanting to grow and and it's GonNa be great you know as long as you Joe Rogan. You can be Joe Rogan. I'll be Jordan Peterson. I agree with you completely. I agree with you completely Sherman. We've done it. We've done it. I think we did good. I think we did good. Okay Angel Thank you very much. How you doing these days you got anything going on in your life you want people to know about now man? I'm taking a break after after everything that's going on. I'm just trying to breathe a little bit. Red Dead Revolver to red dead redemption revolvers revolvers. A different Game Jordan. But they you know I realized that the thing that's the same about red dead revolver and red dead redemption. Is They have that thing thing thing that little cross off. Oh Yeah. That's from red dead revolver. I think gives a shit. We'll posse up. We'll get it done. I hope I hope to God. My fucking Mike has been too hot has been hot this whole time now i. I'm peaking like every word my mouth. How did I do? Did I see miserable this whole whole time. Did I do all right. No you seemed good. You seem good in the beginning. It was a little rough because I think you knew so much about the subject matter with the interview with the interview. Yeah I mean that's what I thought you were going to keep going. Don't feel the whole doug myself this whole back. Don't pull back okay. Oh you just I was like I. You've obviously talked to her before. You've obviously talked about this this subject matter before for. Oh yeah and I was just like. Don't don't don't be biased. Why is challenge is about what? Oh Yeah Right. Challenged her right right right. Yeah yeah well thank you. I appreciate that I appreciate you pulling me out of the asking these questions because I have been through this shit. You know not eight years once again but yeah I'm I'm your. I would call myself lame. But you're Lehman Man. I appreciate you pulling us back to the beginner's mind kind of about it because I can forget how familiar it is to me in not to someone else so I appreciate that buddy so you ain't got nothing going on Nothing you WANNA plug doesn't doesn't WANNA plug by by call of duty modern warfare. It's a great game how you come in the big reveal. How can people get a hold of you? Buddy you can get a a hold of me on social media linked in I'll shoot up my email address. My personal email address had never mind doing that. ORLANDO at Djamil L. DOT COM. That's valuable property man. Be careful you know firing include that will include that if you want to. I don't know just say hi at Angel and complimented on his Raspy raspy on his angelic voice. Thank you very much. I'm GONNA say goodbye. Always a pleasure. My friend thank thank you. We'll see again. Obviously and for me this is Jordan. O'Leary you can see the video of this interview and post talk on Youtube if you haven't already and if you want to listen listen to the beginning of the podcast which is not included in the video. You can go to bravely mistaken at Itunes or wherever you get your podcasts. If you have an idea for the show and you'd like me to interview someone who has some kind of misunderstood take on live profession hobby culture. I duNno whatever gender anything like this let me know in the comments of Youtube or leave a review on itunes and I'll have some kind of way to get in touch. Atrophy wants his shows out. We made it. I'm going to bring you back angel. We made an five says five episodes for this and I think this'll be the fifth episode. see later angel and and we will. We will see you again next week with a new one and we're GONNA come at you every week with a new show and so if you like to show you know what to do come on man. Almost twenty twenty. I don't need to tell you how to support the show but you can prescribe and share and do all that fun stuff. I'm during your Larry. I'm out of here. Thank you from bravely mistake and and remember I like back.

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You Can Buy Your Way Out of Unhappiness

Naval

02:19 min | 1 year ago

You Can Buy Your Way Out of Unhappiness

"Even though you can certainly achieve happiness and mental health without financial health the truth is in modern society most of US understand that financial wealth and give us freedom. It can give us time it can give us peace. You're not going to buy your way to happiness but you will buy your way out of common causes of unhappiness. In olden. Sometimes one of the routes to finding peace was you would become a monk. You would renounce things he would renounce sex. You'd renounce money you would renounce shelter you would renounce attachments and you would go off in the woods and after thirty years when you'd finally gotten over the fact that she wanted to have these things then you might find some peace on the truth is most probably never got over over it. Lots amongst out there. Not a lot of enlightened people I think it was Osho he said every time I meet a prostitute she wants to talk about God and every time I meet a priest he wants to talk about sex. Whatever it is that you deny yourself will become your new prison if you have a desire for material comfort? It's actually going to be easier and faster to fulfill it in modern modern science. If you know what you're doing capable then it will be for you to renounce it it'll take a lifetime to renounce it and maybe that will work but you can make some money and be materially successful in less than a lifetime you can get there without it and probably have a more lasting form without it but that's playing on hardwood. Physical Health of course is the foundation of everything. If you don't have your physical health you have nothing. Another great confusion saying that I liked. was that a sick man. Only wants one thing. A healthy man wants ten thousand things when you're sick when you're down Josh. All your other desires run away without the ability to get up and function. You can't turn into this desiring machine that you are physical. Health is actually the most important but but I speak the lease on that topic because I have the least specific and unique knowledge. I'm not self actualized. In that regard I mean okay hell okay shape and Ivan okay died. I understand stand a lot of the theory of it but I would feel fraudulent giving you that theory unless I've or a paragon of in that domain whereas I think in wealth I'm much which more self actualized and the piece side I've gone from being a mostly unhappy person to being a very happy person and that I think was Deliberate it was practiced. It was effort based it was through realizations in amid progress. So I have a chance to tell you what worked for me.

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Electric Truck Startup Steps In Where Other Automakers Left Off

NPR's Story of the Day

04:11 min | 2 years ago

Electric Truck Startup Steps In Where Other Automakers Left Off

"Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from a sauna Asana is work management software to help teams organize everything they do. So they can focus on the work. That matters. Most dry us on our free for thirty days. Get started at a Asana dot com slash NPR at the Detroit auto show this week. The big automakers are promoting trucks and SUV's once again the best selling vehicles in the US. There's also a new company knocking on the door riven which wants to be the first to sell an all electric pickup truck Ryan Denham of member station. WGN LT reports I'm writing in a golf cart around the massive auto plant in normal, Illinois, one hundred miles south west of Chicago. My tour guide is way Jensen he worked your three decades ago would Mitsubishi and Chrysler built cars here cranking out hundreds of thousands every year, but three years ago Mitsubishi shut it down and move production to Japan Jensen and twelve hundred others lost their jobs now, he's back is the engineering manager for. Electric automaker. Ribbons I assembly line the startup plans to hire thousand workers here in the next four years when you've done it for twenty eight years that your passion. I mean, it's his what's in you. It's what's in your heart. It's your desire to have the opportunity to see this plant producing cars and putting them out the back door again. I was all in the man who's recycling. This plant is riven founder and CEO RJ square inch a thirty six year old car geek with a PHD from MIT in mechanical engineering. He started work on a gas powered egos sports car ten years ago about the time when another ambitious entrepreneur Elon Musk and tesla started bringing electric cars into the mainstream here screened on the sidelines of the recent Elliott Osho bid took the electric cars going in slow and flipped out in show. The world electric cars can be exciting in certainly very quick musk is known for his bombast tweets that move stock prices and promotions like shooting the car into space screen spent the past few years doing the opposite stink quiet. Hiring auto. Industry veterans and raising half billion dollars from Saudi and Japanese conglomerates at the Elliott Osho riven finally revealed its electric pickup an SUV with a charging range of four hundred miles. He beat Detroit to the punch. That's the opportunity. We have is to show the world that this is a space that actually badly needs electric -ation electrification can make those products better. Though there gasoline counterparts have been in the past Vivian has only six hundred employees, so far design and engineering or done outside Detroit. And in the UK data reason tech in California in about seventy people are getting the plant Illinois up and running starting a car company from scratch isn't easy just asked tesla. It's hemorrhaged money missed deadlines and freaked out investors, and it's considered a success. Other v startups haven't even made it to market one reason electric vehicles here still represent a tiny part of the market at one percent of sales while they may be the future. Low gas prices are challenge to electric vehicles especially for legacy automakers if that changes in few years and Ford finally. Puts an electric version of its best-selling F one fifty on the market riven would be facing stiff competition industry watcher Chelsea Saxton was at the Elliott Osho for Riviera debut. We throw the start ups, but a lot happens between concept and Cheyrou and its most vulnerable for the service, your VN's, high price tag trucks, starting around seventy thousand dollars didn't scare off Ariel Fernandez from Florida he was among the first plop down a thousand bucks to preorder Riviera SUV company. And basically put my trust in them that they're going to produce vehicle and make me happy. When when I get up for nana's SUV will be made here in Illinois. But that may not be it ravine. Also plans aside business selling its battery technology to other companies. So if electric trucks don't take off maybe battery powered tractors and jetskis will for NPR news. I'm Ryan Denham in normal, Illinois. This message comes from NPR sponsor. Comcast business. Business has always been driven by innovators. That's why Comcast business is helping you with technology that provides better experiences. Comcast business beyond fast. Actual speeds. Vary and are not guaranteed.

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3pm Newscast

Houston Public Media Local Newscasts

02:19 min | 4 months ago

3pm Newscast

"Thing to npr news live from news. Eddie eight seven in houston. I'm getting louder. Here's what we're working on for. All things considered news eighty-eight sevens lucille. Vasquez has been going over. Six new lawsuits filed against houston. Texans quarterback deshaun watson a total of thirteen. Women are now making accusations against watson and warning. The story contains brief descriptions of sexual assault. The new lawsuits accuse watson of exposing himself to multiple massage therapists and inappropriately touching them during massage sessions throughout the past year. One lawsuit describes incident that allegedly happened earlier this month. Another lawsuit accuses watson of assaulting massage therapists during two sessions and twenty twenty court documents allege. He wrapped his legs around the woman's neck in an attempt to force her to perform oral sex. Houston lawyer. Tony busby is representing a growing list of women and says he plans to submit evidence to authorities this week. Watson and his attorney have denied wrongdoing on lucius kaz in huston also this afternoon texas getting more than nine hundred thousand first doses of covid vaccine this week. Rachel osho lindley has been looking at whether going over six hundred eighty five thousand doses or heading to some four hundred eighty providers in one hundred and eighty three texas counties the remaining first doses going pharmacies and federally qualified health centers. Texas also ordered nearly six hundred seventy five thousand second doses for people have already gotten their first shot. Some low income. Texans are worried. They're about to be kicked out of an hiv medicaid program. If you're looking at three medications it it's just ask like who can afford fifteen two thousand dollars. A month will look at what a budget shortfall could mean for people who depend on those medications. And that's coming up in our in-depth report five forty four and for more on the corona virus in greater houston. You can go to our website. Houston public media dot org. There's a seventy percent chance of rain this evening with a low near sixty four chance of rain early tomorrow. Then mostly sunny with a high near eighty one seventy six on the u h campus. I'm gay lauder news eddie. Eight seven support for npr comes from npr stations. Other contributors include wamplers.

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"Hot piss"

The Endless Honeymoon Podcast

1:03:59 hr | 11 months ago

"Hot piss"

"Welcome to the endless honeymoon podcast I'm your host, Natasha Zero and I'm with my husband Mrs Tasha Lazaro. Sh, I'm good. Hello. Yeah. Feeling. Good Myself. Oh, I had. I had a A moment MOESHA's obsessed with. Your Surf Session? No. Okay. What are we gonna Sam obsessed with the beach? I am obsessed with the beach like the way you look at the waves I feel like you're going to push our child stroller off the cliff. That sounds like an obsession with killing my child. Now, you're just like every time you see waves you just kind of like go into a different zone all like I would accidentally walk off into the beach with the child there. On a serve, you went on a surfing adventure yesterday. You were swimming with dolphins. They were dolphins is actually really funny. I was surfing with my friend Andrew machine from a respectful socially distant amount of space and these dolphins when you serve sometimes you see dolphins but it's always an amazing sight. It's always like a beautiful gift from the Gods you know. And this couple who were clearly new surfers like they didn't look grizzled they were on boards that that that showed that they were like noobs right they were paddling by these dolphins or breaching and blowing out of their blow holes in the Sun was setting and Andrew says to him he goes, Hey, look dolphins and they're like Oh and just kept paddling. Who did he say to this random couple that was paddling by needing care just like how jaded can one be? That someone's like, Hey, look dolphins and you don't look right hundred feet away. Dolphins weren't fucking quarantine. There's fucking God's Majesty Blow Holing I would never wanna be swimming extra dollar. Screaming they're so beautiful. But what if they like? I Dunno bump into you or something wouldn't that be a gift I don't know I don't want to ever be out like where I can't really have my feet on the ocean floor. For you might not make a good surfer but speaking of the Ocean Natasha got us an airbnb on the ocean last week, and we had a little mini vacation and it was It was really awesome. These people it was pretty magical. We were staying in someone else's house though and I happen to Ria and I, feel like their live seemed so much better than are they had they had they had everything dialed to such a degree that at the end of the AIRBNB I was walking around the house making notes I went to their digital display on the refrigerator and I wrote down the temperature that they keep on refrigerator and freezer because our ice cream melting. That's crazy because now the ice cream taste perfect. No, it worked. I went home. and. The ice cream is frozen at a perfect insists that we have what did you say to me? He said, I haven't had ice cream of this consistency in our entire marriage. It's true and we were sitting there. We will when the free when their freezer says hot like hi I think that it's making it more hot I don't know I don't know how to like set a freezer. Well, it says none of those things. Verse Specific. Anyway we were looking at, they had They had books by that Guy Osho, the leader of wild wild country got kinda makes sense a little bit. Let me frame it. So they have like this like half an acre farm where they grow like one of everything. Like artichokes in off areas and spinach herbs and marijuana plan. Then you walk a little bit further and you're just at the ocean, you cross the tracks at the Ocean Amtrak surfrider's going by Ding Ding most beautiful everything was. And they get to come back to their house Gracia was perfect and then they had like a whole kids zone and a certain point I turned to Natasha. We were kind of feeling trampoline. You're having such a good time and such perfection, and then we started to feel slightly self conscious. We are like like we have a nice place but our life is in complete disarray. How do these people have to dialed in and I just go you know what honey? Like it's okay, this is what is like these these people have dedicated their lives to this house and their energies in this house and we are artists we are creatives, and like our brains are our brain power is focused on being creative creating comedy like the artistic endeavor. We just it's hard for US people like US artists to focus on stuff like that, and then we walked back into their house and we saw their their creative arts emmy that the. Me We're eating I was like, go see what it's four. Go. To just sloppy bums and it was like the perfect mix like it wasn't fancy. It was just sustainable and Sheikh. Anyway this is airbnb talk. But Hey, our back to our law to life life in La's creator get to the beach I gotta make some changes and move to the beach but here is. The heartbreaking moment I had today is a total change of subject for this. This was just so sweet. We were I was giving are your child a Bath tonight to before putting her to bed, and there's this little toy that I bought her in the Denver Airport. Remember airports these two hubs of transportation that we do. You remember airplanes. Travel you never airplane food. Yeah. Airplane food was a trip. It was not as good as regular food I. Don't know if you remember that at any rate I bought her this little like wand in this toy store the Denver airport that like it's got a little spiky ball at the end and it's purple ball and when you hit it on a wallet flashes rain or something yeah, it's like a rave wand and She loves it and it's just a little trinket or whatever, and Susan the bath and she grabbed it and she banged it against the wall and it didn't come on and she's like it's not supposed to be in the bath. Well, that's probably part of it but I I was like Oh. Yeah. It's now it seems like it's not working anymore and she's like what I was like yeah. It's like ran out of batteries. And she's like what angle? Yeah things run out. And the look on her face. It was. Almost. STARTED CRYING And it was obvious that it was the first time she realized. The idea that things don't last forever the things break can things where out I said, yeah. Things break out the breaking way out forever. With the idea of impermanent that's life isn't it? I was just thinking that like that's what life is. Life is like a series of learning lessons, some of which are very beautiful, but some of which are heartbreaking and they start. They start very small, very simple, but I thought to myself Oh. Exactly. I just burden this like innocent with the idea of of of things falling apart. I did that with her today to same thing I told her please come help me do the dishes and she said, no, no I said we have to the dishes because I saw a cockroach and we don't want to have a cockroach in our house. There's a cockroach, our house because I saw one burden to the idea of she started crying she's like I want to go. And I was like, yeah why did I tell her that and now she's got like now she says I wanted her to be as afraid as me why I don't know I did the same thing to. Earlier this afternoon I sat her down and I said, you know xenophobia and nationalism is truly a cancer on a verdant, an equitable society and I said I said DRUMPF is is an orange finger cheeto man and she started crying and she said, do you say this to me every day Daddy? At any rate I thought that was I it was just a very. Poignant, moment was like. Oh, there's no way around this. There's no way around this lesson that you must learn as life goods goes on that things fall apart the batteries run out that purple balls don't always blink and mom and dad are going to die. That's what I whispered to a right afterwards. All right Let's take a call. You won't take a call. Let's take a call. Let's. Go Toe call. Your most are you doing right now? Oh, I'm good. Did A migraine. Making me do these ads were you know it helps with stress? The kind of thing that adds migraines. CBD. Trail that's why we liked calipers CBD it helps US stress. It helps calm you down pain soreness and it'll get you sleep sleeping easier. What's great about CDs and helps you feel better without really making any drastic changes to your team. But a lot of these companies are oils or weird tasting things caliber CBD is a powder that's totally tasteless mixes with any food or drink there's oily residue or mouth feel and there's twenty milligrams of CD in each packet. 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The one only. Molly in Toronto Molly, my favorite drug in Toronto, my favorite city on the east coast of Canada that Oh yeah that's eastern area. Yeah, it's like our miss, Toronto. I don't I do I love Toronto that some of the best live stand up comedy fans in that North America too much modern structure like too many modern structures in Toronto. There's too many modern structures. What do you live in old town old Jamestown colonial Jamestown? These little tiny apartments on. Like Toronto. Cool city. It just felt like over developed in like. Will I Miss Toronto and when I come back on tour their next year hopefully people come also I know nothing. I'm sure it's a beautiful place. No everything. All, right. Let's call her molly. Molly. Molly let me ask you a question. On a scale of one to ten ten being way too many modern structures. One being colonial Jamestown, where do you think Toronto? False. I'm surprisingly I've gotten this question a lot before. I would say a four. Oh, I was thinking ten. You've got Akwesasne a lot before. I'm no I was lying okay molly. Heart Moxie. So. What's going on molly? Well. Where do I begin? I actually am currently well, I just lift out of a party that the person in question I'm is at so this couldn't be better timing. Hold onto having parties and Toronto the like why? Why are we talking about your love life? Let's talk about your viral load. Socially this hard. Way Hold on how many people are the socially distance party. It's like twenty masks city big backyard exceed apart. Don't don't they call Toronto Masks. City. Utah in Canada in America I can't imagine twenty five people gathering in. America, in any city with masks, we'll talk king. Berg. I don't think they would no I I don't know. We believe you. We believe he. Okay. So you're at a party you're at associate distant party in a backyard with some respectful Canadians wearing more. Loose pelt masks and. I'm having some relationship problems that I would love your advice list Okay. Tell us. Okay. So it is an extremely common theme in my life that all of my friends are aware of yet no one has the answer to why this But I seem to be coming in contact with people that become obsessively in love with me and you a severe grand. Objectively. Romantic gesture bats don't WanNa be with me and my question is. What the fuck wait so these are like. You're saying, these are like fuck boys that come to your house with like I say anything boombox and a dozen long stem roses but then they're like I don't want commitment right now. No? No No. Not Fuck boys like. Weird just like random people that like paint oil paintings of me like all right. I already have it figured out it seems like you're super hot but you have a bad personality. You. Know I'm. Confident again, accurately say that I am hot but I'm not hot enough for people to just be doing crazy shit like this left right center. Okay. So they do this stuff you meet it's like a worldwide ban. World Wind and then. It just kind of dies out peters out after what two weeks. Notice actually. Let's like Montier if. It's Me where I'm confused Molly, take us back a few steps. So what is the issue? Exactly? Maybe make it centralized among around this guy? What did he do the? Current example that we're dealing with I'm. We Really. Click. Really God. Each Other we met out the Jewish summer camps that we weren't. and. And Yeah we just really loved each other on many different levels we hooked up once it was fine. We were like friends after that. We've been friends for years now and. I've made it really clear that I have a crush on him and he's made it somewhat clear that he just wants us to be friends, and then recently he sent me a fucking loves. that he's so romantic. I. Love. Song. What do you mean? He sent it to you. Is Your name in it or is he just like check out this song era? Delilah. He said I wrote a song about you I'm not neither. Addressed me by name in the song it hasn't we hear A. snippet. On your phone. Actually can have. Also, I said. It'll identify who it'll identify who he is. Okay I. Got You. Okay. That's weird. Straight up. That's where it's a HE USTA to him. I've crush. He says I just want to be friends and then six months later he's like Oh Molly. Mimi Tim Hor and. Riding. On a Moose. Says that WE'LL DRINK May. Up in the back of the van or something like that. How did you know the word I'm good I'm good I know I know your culture is that. So that's basically the situation. Yeah. That'll Dan. I approached him I said, what do you feel and. He was essentially non responsive. He just like moans and Groan discomfort until I finally left because. There was there was nothing. How many girlfriends do you have with you right now molly. I have my one girlfriend who forced me to write into you. Let's put her on the line for assessment. Okay Fine So. Yeah. That's you've you've cut off my advice at the cut off my advice at the past because I was GonNa say if I was in that situation, the right thing to do would be to confront that person and say. You're sending mixed messages I told you I like you and it's not a normal thing for person that just wants to be friends to write a love song but you're saying you basically did that and he moaned and groaned didn't just come. Back. Possible. You know who? Who can be sure really Do the dip. I just said it was pure moaning and groaning but. Have you had sex with him one time, right? No we do not act. It was like a magic native just been talking rem and cuddling. We aren't happy movies drove have got it. Got It I. Mean I'm with most I think he does need to be a little more flirt with him and like what if you texted him like any more songs coming up or? Do some things that the issue he said. He Says I. Don't you and then a week later sings a love song. That's this is a this is bizarre and you're saying this is a theme in your life. Is Very. Much. So That's interesting. Yeah. This often happens to her people that don't want to commit to her do big romantic gestures to her I asked my friends if they have any theories and the one prominent theory is that I. Resemble Men's mothers and they like have this like fucked up. Eat a complex where they WANNA. Fuck their moms and they think I'm hot. But also they can be like emotionally vulnerable with me because I like their mom and I. What about you makes? You think you're just like any man's Ma Jewish. Okay. That's basically what it is. I think I think that you should maybe pose that to him since saying to him, what are your feelings didn't work? Maybe go like go to him right now at the party and and just like. kind of like, pull him into your bosom and you say Mommy Mommy loves you. Mommy loves. Good time and just like see if that works do you think that that is correct no, I think this is a. Slow. No, I think I. Think you just have strange Yeah I think that that. Mentally ill people were more likely to come in to conflict with me because I had an energy that attracted them. But now I realize you know I just had a few experiences like that. I think that I do think that another conversation is in order to explain to me how did you confront him after he sent you the thing where where was this and what were the circumstances? Right. So we spoken twice them out it at first time was a week after he sent her to me I texted him saying because he wasn't in the city I was then. Texas asking if we could call and talk about it. So we had a phone call and then the second time as we talk about it like half an hour ago. At the party while he was drunk, when did he moan and Groan on the phone or just now? On, this well a little bit moaning now, but a lot on the phone I mean, okay. I do have the I don't know why you have a mystical circumstance for men that are not interested in you in any way. Make Origami. Cranes for you, but I do have a solution, a a practical solution tosh. What do you think of this? I think that when someone sends you mixed messages like that and they're not willing to talk to you about it and they're not willing to cop to it. They're being emotionally manipulative and it's time to no longer have them in your life and no longer talk to him. Yeah and see if you cut him off if he comes back with some more songs than you'll have more information that's what I think. You know what? You're welcome. Also, molly I think that you should probably find a dirt bag that would treat you like absolute garbage and just stick with that guy because it seems like the guys that treat unites interested. Wow I never one dollars it's just an idea. It'll be hard to find bag in Canada because they're also nice but you can do it. You can find a molly good luck out there. Nine some inky so much guys or our pleasure we helped by by. US interesting. I mean I I do believe I said is that sometimes you you start to create a narrative about yourself? That's all it is and how they happened like two to three times. And you know she just hasn't met the right person. She's obviously fun and funny and good looking at least she said so and so I'll find somebody you know a lot of this stuff this. This and I don't like saying it to the people on the call but a lot of these calls I get the feeling that Molly's probably pretty young that seems like the the the folly of romance when you're young people don't know how to do it that guy probably does like her but who knows what his issue is and he's you know you don't write a love song to a woman her name in it and you don't you're not interested. It's just like these are boys molly. That's what it felt like our boys. You need to find a man who can a man and a woman can express their feelings clearly without giggling and groaning exactly. I have to do a ten one. Okay. That's Hollywood for She's gotTa take a Piss. We'll be right back after Natasha takes. Hot PISS. Okay. So was your pass Natasha. Yeah I had I'm sorry. Load. It was just a hot piss I mean that's what I meant. Don't is the wrong word. Yeah. You splash hot load. Yeah. Do you know my daughter thinks that ups? She can sometimes people up what daughter your daughter. I feel like her generation will stand up in p. that's kind of cool because engender. Whatever like Sheila's hold onto a tree stump and just Think the last generation did that didn't? I don't know have you ever held on a tree stump imperial Well, maybe there's a time for that. Let's would you say we play a few secrets? I do want to say like I'm sorry if we don't get to your secrets but you know we have like some categories and there's a lot of you know a lot of the same like there's apparently a lot of people starbucks workers trying to get revenge on their bosses that seems to be a theme with the secret, a lot of shit stories. Many Shits Dono Lewd please don't. Leave your secrets to no judgment zone. It's a no I. I'm just saying if we don't get to your particular shit saga leave Poop, drop a dump. Okay. Dumpers for dumping. All right but let's play secretive. Sam. High. Moshe and Tasha, really really big Fan This is a secret that I want to get off my chest. So we welcome to a second baby in January. It was a really intense pregnancy. It was a last minute. See Section you name it And Yeah I just I just want to say this because I I know that a lot of parents you're dealing with a lot of crap right now and it's hard and. Send them to school. Don't send them to school daycares opening and closing. Honestly if Koga nineteen had hit this time last year a little before when my husband and I were trying for baby number two, I would've turned to my husband said one and done people cannot cannot do this and he's also said, we've he's also told me that so I feel good that I'm not alone actually here my husband and oldest coming in from playing outside. So I need to go. There's your show keeps me going but yes, I would not have gone for baby number two is Kobe had hit a year earlier so. Way So her secret is that she regrets giving birth to her child. It's a little complicated. Complicated because she has a big this caveat she's like I would have regretted having my child if covert had hit then but I don't technically regret the but I definitely. Yeah I think you're right and also I think that having one child already that's really great. But I also think that if you WANNA have a baby now I, don't think you should not have it. Are I'm looking at our at your child your daughter and she's like totally turning into a kid and unlike. Unlike I wish I had another baby. Really. Why just because like? When she was a baby sucking on your breasts that must've been pretty annoying for you who she didn't do that. But. I just like the process of watching her grow up and now she's like. where she's Cute overload, but like I'm. Like put a raspberry on every finger and just say I love you daddy. Temple. Assisting the sun will come out tomorrow tap but like I just liked. Each each phase that she ascends to I'm both overjoyed by and also melancholy that she left the last one behind. That's interesting because like when I look at pictures like video of a newborn baby or and I'm like reminded of that feeling of her, no of just like anything in a in a documentary or whatever T- a movie like a TV show I don't know I just don't really feel nothing. Yeah. When you think about her birth and her first two years, we feel nothing. No but I just don't I don't wait a minute. Over one, thousand, nine, hit two years ago or are you saying you regret having your child? What I'm saying is when I'm reminded of being a mom of a baby that was not fun but this is fun. Yes, she screams family race every night. When we eat dinner, we have to run up the our our garden. Way Better I. Don't you WanNa have kit in diaper convinced let's not have another kid. I don't know if it's physically possible for us to do. So regardless, I was just GonNa Pitch that we adopt a vulnerable foster child but you know what you've convinced me let's let that Rod would do that with the secret. Okay. Hi, this is the secret. It's funny that you guys were talking about the Chamber Pot thing because. This morning, I really really really had to shit, and my husband takes these forty five minutes shifts in the bathroom. And I thought I was going to die. So. I had a couple of different options, one of which was sitting in the backyard But what I did was take my three year olds potty into our bedroom and hover over it and shit in it. What happened is just as I was finishing up my three year old. Piece into the door So I got up really quickly and. later on when my husband without she asked me why I pooped in her potty and I totally gassed let her and told her that I did not who've been her potty that I was just cleaning it. That's a good lie. No it's not. Do Kid is old enough to know that you don't clean a toilet by putting your ass up to it. Well here's the thing if you're gonNA make a chamber pop part of your daily life. And you'RE GONNA shit in it because I haven't done that that's pretty hardcore. My brother was telling me when he goes camping, he has one tent for himself and then a smaller tent that's a shower and a toilet, and it's like a little baby toilet but they have like a plastic bag. There's there's that kind of baby potty has a plastic bag. So I think if you're going to, you know really give it for shitting. You should maybe do that Puerto Burger because nobody wants to be like you know Sprang Shitty potty like cleaning the remnants of it next year toothbrushes by the saying mean just like. This is wisdom and I I. Have a question for the listeners something. I've thought a lot about and I won't ask you Natasha 'cause I know you won't answer but you don't. You don't have men have a prostate. And honey can are you taking photos of our dogs while we're podcasting? Any Yeah. Men. Have a prostate. Remind me so some. Are My do every night I go up up into the left. I go tighten it tightened the belt. Tightened the belt. And Tame the peg up into the left. Now because of the prostate shitting for a man I've heard can feel the excitement, a gas mask, not GAZ MC but like really pleasurable ill and just. Not like erotic but it's just like really like feels great. I don't want to know that I feel maybe wrong podcast but I don't have another one. Okay. Anyway. My question is women don't have one is shitting unbelievably pleasant sometimes for women. Right in, let us know let me ask you this. Do you think women are funny? Women. I mean. Let's number secret I. Mean I'm just saying maybe sometimes shits feel good. No. Let serves you think that's an ignorant question. I don't now I always assumed that the state is involved in the will the shit is sliding past the prostate isn't it? It's like pokemon coming out in a woman there's no prostate it's just coming out the butthole it's just a tube. Okay. There's no little. Strictly sexual organ blue, it's definitely parsley. I mean imagine okay. Think of it this imagine your g spot was in your asshole. And every time you went to go poo, you got your g spot. Well it'd be more pleasant. Wouldn't it? Let's take another secret. Okay but right in and this honeymoon pod gmail.com ladies would you go poo poo. Does it feel great. Put what the answer off. Air. Hello I have a secret for you. I have while they're somewhat related. One is that I left Graduate School for financial issues. but I still you know constantly educate myself i. read a lot to do a lot of research. On. A lot of knowledge just no paper proof of that. But. If people ask I told them that I have a master's, and sometimes I say that on job applications I know they won't check or if it's not too crucial to have one for the job itself. But also because of that, I also never wrote a thesis. but I Do get into fights with people where they think they know more than I do but I know that I know more than they do. Whatever the topic is I say you can't tell me you know better. Thesis on it. I about my. Who Make Myself feel better and make others feel small. I don't know. The personality fault her. Oh. Well, thank you so much. I. Love Your podcast. I feel like she redeems herself by being so cool about being. So open about her flos I also think it's a very human instinct. Everybody does not everybody says I wrote a thesis on about everybody lies about articles they've read when they're arguing about politics and they saw headlining. There's an article and the you know not myself. Yeah. Everybody does that I? I've definitely you know what I do a lot is I'll I'll mention my real I have a degree in. I'm fighting about the Middle East I'll mention that I have a degree in religious studies with a focus on Western religions specifically Islam Judaism Islamic Judaism, some an expert, but it's like. That that's not a lie at all but I went to college like. Years ago and I've done literally nothing with it ever since and it was like a BA. I'm sorry. All right. Cigarettes take another. Way But let me just finish my thoughts her I. think that I think I don't know. I. Oh, I had an idea for her maybe like so you don't feel completely guilty about lying like maybe start thinking about your thesis and start thinking about like what it would take to finish the masters even if you can't afford it right now you know just like start like it compiling it in your head. So it's like you know I'm in the process of getting my masters and so now you're more like you know working on it and they'll help expand your mind and also start to. Focus you away like what are you really interested in if you were doing and what is a thesis? I've never had a masters degree like you just pick one thing and you work on it for a year. How does it work most? You're smart. Yeah. We'll have a bachelor's degree in religious studies with the focus on western religion I think I might have written a thesis. A thesis is a final, very large final paper that sometimes especially with the masters degree is the can even be the the length of a book. Is it hot take like it's like I think this and no one else has really. So if I was studying if I went to graduate school for religious studies with a focus on western religion like I had planned on doing him before I decided to become a comedian, I was going to become an academic. Thank God I didn't go that route maybe I would have written my thesis on On Raves in in Israel or maybe I would've written my thesis on You know a Hasidic off-shoot that dresses they're women like the. Taliban it. It's like a specific thing but it has interests you choose your thesis topic along with your adviser and they help you write this paper and sometimes if these is as good enough, they'll publish your thesis because it's book length and they'll publish it, and that'll be your first academic book and as they say publish or perish and I did publish. But Not in my field I published a memoir called cash or in the Rye available on Amazon and your e Book. Reader right now. Good one banks should we? What do you think do another call? Yeah. But if anyone out there has has written a thesis or has heard of like what like I'm just curious like you just like this woman after do she has the reapply to graduate school and and finish her masters and then write a fucking thesis but I actually think she should go the other route I just think writing a thesis on. So cool to me. Yeah. It's like it's basically like a philosophy of of like thought that you have about. A topic that interests you know it really the simplest way to describe it as you write a book about a topic in your field of expertise of your field of study. And it's got to be pretty specific because most books have already been written in your field of study. You GotTa really have a specific angle, right? Yeah. I think she should go the other route. I. Think. She should double down on what she's done and she should walk up to people in a job interview or in an argument and just say hi there. I'm I'm Dr. I'm Dr Jill. 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Aware. Okay. Let me just tell you knew of an airport. Okay. I. Have a confession. Yeah. TORONTO. And Ontario? Yes. are both cities I bombed in? So I'm like that city kind of sucks you are no. Buildings Bit modern for my taste. Like, you know when you start comedy and you start doing too much too soon, you know you start trying to like go make people at like a mall laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Can I ask you a question? On a question what does bombing feel like? Bucky I know I'm serious I've heard a lot of comedians talk about it. I'm always just like Yeah I let's call Haley Haley. Hello. Haley Haley. Guy Can I ask you a question? Of course, you can have you ever been to the Terio. IMPROV unfortunately, I have not any good I don't know. But if you had caught a young Natasha zero there about fifteen years ago, you would have seen her bomb her tits off. So you missed out on that. Well. I was five years. Old I'm sure would have been very excited to see that. Way So do you go to is aren't isn't on -Tario like how would you describe Ontario? Is it like kind of a Mall City? It definitely an airport city. So we a lot of hotels. We have a lot of shops, a lot of like industrial looking steps in, and then we have big like What is it called? Hang. Mouth. Hanging. People go to concerts and stuff, and just be reserve your number one stadium. quaint called stadiums. Haley, the stadiums, and they, and and someday soon, they will be monuments to the society we left behind in the Cova deers? Britney Spears performed at this stadium. That'll be like the car call baths in Rome ask. ME So sad dot. No, no, we'll be. Okay. We're all GONNA be. You'll see bieber again and now things are really looking good Haley. Okay. So what's going on with you? All right. So I have some family problem. So, my family whenever we get together, it always ends in like this huge kind of fight like just Kinda don't get along and I have a very small family, my grandparents and my uncle, my mom me my cousin and my sister that's it, and then so whenever we hang out or any family event, it could be a holiday it could be. A birthday party thing my mom and my uncle always pick on my cousin like we always had these. Little disputes if it's over politics over something passed. On your cousins specifically. You know like me and her like they always WanNa bring up just dump stuffs you know. Our Path as you are you are you in your cousin like a nerds or losers? Could explain it. Kind of Wimpy wimpy. No or not with me I'm I'm. SMART. They not. But like I I go to college. I've really great. What's your? What's your mantle or anything? Joking Haley Joking Haley what what's your major? I'm a linguistics, major speech and hearing. Wrote speech and hearing science I know a little bit about that. Okay. So they WANNA be I wanna be an audiologist whole interesting on. The you know the people that test people's hearings, hearing and stuff right? I know. But I feel like that's like people saying like I'm a psychology major. No, no, that's no. It's so much more specific than that. How Dare You I don't know any. Her uncle parents wait. No, I have a question too. So your family, these people, the grandparents and the oncological do you guys all hang out a lot together all the time like every time there's a birthday it's like this whole crew. Yes. So yeah, we have a very small family. We get together pretty off, but here's the thing Haley. It's not that small the family to be like every time there's a birthday party, my uncle and grandparents come like that already does feel like you have like. You like what? What makes you guys hang out with each other if you don't even like each other. I don't know I. Think it's our grandparents 'cause or my grandparents 'cause they're very Familial, invest the right word like they they really like when all of us come together and can hang out and they. Okay. That was another point that I was gonNA bring up without my grandparents literally spent all day preparing the house or wherever we're going and you know they prepared for a good time like make sued and. Clean. The House and all this stuff and then we end up going and my uncle and my mom and me and my cousin I guess ruin it for everybody and my grandparents get really upset and not a suggested the situation. So so hold on. So Haley. It's you and your cousin and your mom and uncle gang up on the two of you. Yeah, pretty much. I really fucked up market I. Get it. I think I understand it and and and your cousin is your uncle's kid. Right yeah and your and you're the brother and sister long. Together. Honestly, and I've been thinking about this a lot a lot to do like them being kind of jealous. Our grandparents just like us better a little bit interesting and what is the fight you? What is the thing about? Is there any what are they go to cut that right? Is there any themes to it or is it always? Is it just? Yeah, what is? It's politics big time, and the fact that like they think they have like the periodicity for us because they so they're trump sir. And you guys are like vote for job is. nope the opposite. This. Go ahead, this is very simple I don't know what you think, but this is a very simple, the the politics. You're probably right that there are some like there's a bunch. It sounds to me. There's like there's a bunch of things going on there's jealousy. There's jealousy probably right. There's jealousy. The grandparents are like love you guys and they have like fraught relationship with their parents and they want to kind of throw a grenade into it. Probably a lot of this is subconscious. Second thing is they're probably jealous of you guys just for you know being young and vibrant and smart and doing your own thing, and they're like you know old and parentage and they're like. Probably a little jealous of that, and they're probably also just having their their brother sister dynamic where they're like gang they gang up on you guys. But the the solution is obvious. The solution is to in my opinion Natasha I'm curious to hear. The solution is to out adult the adults right the the the idea of getting together. You know the old saying they say, do you know why your parents push your buttons? As they put your buttons on you exactly they simply. This podcast. Yes, I. Actually, I thought that was. Cute. But I thought it was like the newest very cute advice. Okay. Well, anyway. So they're getting under your skin because every time they go to fuck with you you guys probably engage right you give them exactly what they want. They want to Piss you off and to tease you to make you pissed off and you guys are young and so you're probably like A. More emotional when you argue about these things than they are, and so they can like grinder little screwdriver into your brain and you start screaming become illogical and basically lose and storm off. Right is that Kinda? What happens? A little bit sometimes the and Y'all with somebody leaving and sometimes it ends just with me being like, okay whatever I'm GonNa go take a nap or something I. Don't know like I just ended up kind of disengaging because I get frustrated will this is this is the hard work that the advice is obvious but the implementation is incredibly difficult you've to. Out This is my thought you have to out adult the adult you have to know going into this situation. If you're not ready to tell your uncle and mother, I'd never want to speak to which I don't think you are you go into the situation knowing they're going to try to fuck with you and having a plan, and here's the plan. So But the hard part is sticking to the boundary. So okay. d'italia I'll be I'll be Haley and you you say something like triggering to me. Okay. So I'm Haley like audiology and I'm blow. Trump is right. You know I don't i. we always do this at these gatherings and I've decided thinking a lot about it. I always walk away from these things feeling worse than when I got here. So I've decided today I don't WanNa talk about politics at all and then they're gonNa try to do it again right. So try to Oh, you're being you're just you're just being you're just being sorry because you know he's GonNa win again okay I'm Gonna I'm GonNa actually just walk away for five minutes And then you get up and you leave emotions given me advice like this before and it's really hard to implement. It's super hard to implement but it I once a Super implement because the first time you do it if feels like hell. Right and right yeah you can't get over the hump of the first time but once you do it like five times they'll stop fucking with you because they'll know that there's no kindling for them to light a fire with if every time you set, they tried to fuck with you instead of engaging the argument you set a boundary and then you follow that boundary and you walk away then eventually they're going to stop talking to you about it and you just say, can we change the subject? I don't WanNa talk politics it's. The easy part is saying that the hard part is doing that's what I think. Yeah of course and and yeah, you're totally right and my grandparents have tried to do that many a time like not even just about politics 'cause your little your little skit was totally right laugh. Yes. I'm a liberal and they're very much not but but even when it comes to like them just saying something about. You know where were too young to know what's actually going on or whatever like whatever they. WanNa say. Say Okay it's time to change subject like I don't want to talk about this bullshit right now wait let's talk about something that I have an important question. This is really cool. This is three generations hanging out with each other. Grandparents it's their their two kids and then you guys and so my I guess my question is where to the grandparents stand. Politically Day. Okay. So My grandpa voted for Hillary my grandma voted for trump. But to west side story situation. But they're very conservative big day are immigrant Portugal where it's very you know. Conservative I guess that's the word but yeah, they're very much conservative but not to the point where. They are involved in politics like they. They're pretty much like I don't really care and just. I don't know my grandpa gets anxiety when he thinks about it and then my grandma's like I went you know Catholicism to be thing again and but yeah, he was being. Okay. Go ahead. I was just GonNa say they care more about? US being hurt by our parents and like feeling like shape when we leave then the politics in general or you know whatever it is. Okay, I'm sorry. This is a lot. I I. Guess my question is. When you wouldn't when your mom says something negative to you is there anything else she says that doesn't have to politics. Yeah there there I I mean I could go on. Liberal. Wing. What's one thing that that felt bad. my mom likes to say that I'm I'm brainwashed because of. Haulage. To Paul. Okay. Okay. Oh, she likes to bring up how I'm always at my boyfriend's or I'm I'm always with my boyfriend or she's governor friend critical critical and and and I think you're jealous. I mean it's just so simple. Did you have a thought on that? Well, I just think part part of me thinks it's her family does seem kind of close so i. Feel like maybe if if she could stop engaging, that's the answer any way that maybe you could actually help make your family because it seems like you guys must Haina like to be around each other because you guys are always like three generations of people hanging out with each other like that's so special like that. You can make a documentary about that and meanwhile you're. Like. Oh, we don't really like each other. So I think that's really special, and then I also think that you know like I my brothers and I would fight all the time but like I would never really fight with my one brother. But then my other brother they always in a fight and then I remember hang out with them. Once we were adults and. Like the one brother said something and then he got so mad and they start screaming like it just went to ten immediately and I was like, Oh, I never engage in that level at all like I'm right not interested late Natasha's Natasha's right. The secret here is truly you have to out adult your parents because we're we are living in a golden age of of. Of middle aged people acting like children. It's never been this bad. It's never been this bad. It's because of facebook people like to fight on facebook and that kind of psychic energy is trickle down into our into our parents generation and it's always sad to me when I see like an old man fi like calling someone like a like a Lib tarred cuck on facebook I'm just like you were supposed to be smoking a corncob pipe like reading the paper and thinking about the. Philosophy and instead you're dislike calling somebody gay on facebook like it's like. So the your job because you don't get to choose your family, it's like, oh, it's too bad that your parents are act like assholes when they get together but your job is not to win the fight with them. It's to prevent the fight from occurring and the way to prevent the fight from occurring is to never engage. You'll never win the fight new. You'll never win the fight. Your job is to walk off not storm off what's an easy script like yeah. Just don't WanNa talk about. That exactly, Oh, I don't really WanNa talk about that and then and then they do it again because they won't do. They're not GONNA stop there they're bullying you you say I don't really feel like talking about it. They'll say again you go mom I'm going to be honest if you keep talking about that I'm probably GonNa go and if she keeps talking about politely don't storm off because that's probably what happens you go mom fuck off and then she goes Oh, look at you fuck off. Talking to fuck off, that's the way a child talks you talk to your mom like that and you go bomb you're being unreasonable. I'm being unreasonable. Well, I think it's unreasonable that you're learning about you know Marxist philosophy in college and then all of a sudden it's total bullshit and then you bail and you storm off screaming right. But if you and your cousin have a united front that you're going to set boundaries the first time they. Tried to say something nasty and say I've been thinking you gotta be overt. You can't be like you can't like like I think direct communication is like is the is the biggest thing especially in these old communication pathways where you've creative ways of communicating with like subtle and you have to be not subtle. You say, you know what me and my cousin we've been thinking about it. We were splitting a bowl of that. Portuguese. Sausage Soup and we That stuff and we decided we don't. We don't WanNA fight at these family gathering clean love you look exactly the soup and like let's let's all watch a movie, play a game or whatever. We love spending time with you. But we've decided that when things come up that make us that's the one of the big secrets to talking to unreasonable people is to make it all about you. You say something like the truth is I'm too. Sensitive to deal with it, you know I just it's my problem and I know you it's not your problem. It's my problem. I'm too sensitive to deal with it as a great manipulation when you when you bring something up, that makes me feel sensitive or makes me feel like you know just like I can't deal with it I'm just going to let you know it's a topic. I don't want to talk about and then when they do. It you'll just let them know and then they're definitely GonNa do it again they're probably even make fun of you when you when you set your boundary because nobody likes nobody likes being exposed for being a bully, there's no way they're going to hear it and go like, wow, we've thought about and you're really right. They're gonNA go my God look at you. You WanNA participation trophy or whatever bullshit people like that say, and then you just. Say you just say it's about me. It's not about you but if you don't respect, then you say mom you're talking about something I don't really WanNa talk about that. She's GonNa talk about again go I'll be honest I don't WanNa talk about it and if you bring it up again, I'm probably GONNA. Go and then she brings it up again. Here's the hard part you gotTa Kiss I. Don't know what they say in Portuguese Abloh and Goodbye and you say I'm GONNA take off. It's nothing to do with you guys. I'm just I'm not I. Don't WanNa fight and you just leave in calm happiness knowing that you did the right thing do not. Crack. That whip crack the whip do not stay and fight because you will always lose the battle that has been set on their terms but you will if you if you reset the field of battle to your own rules, you'll win every time. That's what I think. All right. Well, I think that's really good advice Moshe and I'm GonNa take it and I hope that Haley takes it and Haley any parting words? Thank. You guys. That was really great advice GonNa use it and I'm definitely going to change from fighting to kind of. You know setting my boundaries and telling them. Hey. No more. No In. A nice way to the nice way about. You'll never win. You will never win because they are not fighting to change your mind. They are fighting to prove that you're stupid. It's like it's not gonNA. You know you know. You know in your heart of hearts that they are that their way of of living is crumbling and they know it too and that's probably why they're picking on you. Okay. Good Luck Haley. Haley we favor tell us how it goes. Right right. Right our producer and tell us how the first stanza went that we would love to know if anything changes. Of course thank you guys so much good luck by by Hurley. I figured out what part the problem is. So, basically, our parents generation they all had kids when they were like twenty three. To like thirty and so they hadn't really found themselves yet. Now they're like old and they're like, Oh, now I'm like there's facebook and the Internet and ideas and I never got my degree but you know like what? About this stuff that I'm learning and Oh these people have always hated and I don't know I, feel. And they don't have the Internet's not good for that. They don't have big social lives, right? Very people. So the only people that they can take it out on his kids. On the Internet like and it's exactly it's strangers or their kids. That's that's those are the two choices. So it's like and the other thing is I really do believe that like the tone of argumentation that that most of the people. I'M GONNA go out on a limb and say her parents and the ankle probably their biggest experience in debating has been in on facebook fighting with random. House. About you know what I mean and if. You're training ground for if that's your training ground for learning how to discuss uncomfortable ideas. Then you're going to be a jerk about it because the facebook encourages being a jerk that's that's that's what. I've never seen a person's mind changed on facebook ever. So it's like fucking you just unfortunately at a certain point in every young person's life you come to the realization that your parents are actually children and you have a choice there. You can engage with them like children or you can engage with them like the adult you've become, but I do think some. People are lucky. Their parents are really evolved. Well, I feel like my child. That's true. That's true. People have awesome parents. I'm just saying even awesome parents. They'll come a point when you go. Oh, this is where your weak spot is right I mean all of our parents are good in some ways of course. Yeah we would have been nice to ask. Haley. What her mom is cool. How Hamas cool right I think the politics is probably like. percent of it also sounds like when the brother and the sister get together they gang up and become isn't that crazy three generations of like people fighting and hanging out with each other crazy. It really speaks to help broken your family's. Just like UTAH. told me the grandparents Anagram. Heard of such a thing like have you seen a Christmas movie? Your parents. There still. And hanging around. That don't make no sense. All right. Well, you know what? This has been really fun. We'll listen it has been fun, and here's another thing. It doesn't matter that you didn't have three generations hanging out because you will because your child if your child has a kid will love us because we are lovable and I know we're lovable lie. How because I love you.

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The A-Side Live Chat | A.J. McKees future, MMA judging, Sean Stricklands dominant performance, Cody Garbrandt's move to flyweight, more

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The A-Side Live Chat | A.J. McKees future, MMA judging, Sean Stricklands dominant performance, Cody Garbrandt's move to flyweight, more

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Where we'll tell you about everything going on in the world of the nfl in less than ten minutes we're talking big trades key signings important injuries and all the topics everyone will be discussing. All explained in quick shows that go perfectly with your morning cup of coffee or commute to work so subscribe to the nation. Nfl show today and get the football coverage. You deserve you're listening to the vox media podcast network. Hey we're live pal. I didn't even use the intro here. We go i didn't use. I have it. i didn't use it. I don't know why but we're live. i hope so anyway. I don't see anyone pop. I don't see there we go. I see people populating. Now i see questions coming in. Sorry guys casey is not here he is in houston so i'm running the show. I'm doing the boards during the questions. I'm doing the producing. It's early you might notice. We're starting is not up. The sun actually is is rising right now arizona. You might be wondering why we're doing this so early. It's because as i said casey is in. Houston he's gonna be at the uc to sixty five day. Which i believe starts thirty minutes after we end today. So we'll end at eight. Pm pacific time. And then i believe media day is scheduled eight thirty. Am pacific time. We will have that live stream on anime fighting's youtube page and on the site. I don't know if we're streaming on twitter and facebook. I leave that up to casey. But you guys will fall. I know that might start early because you have been to me day in a bit. Alex have you been to. You'd not into the new format. You went to a couple of pandemic events but it was pre media days. Correct yes comedian. Yeah sometimes fighters wanna get it over with and they'll be like can i start right now in there. An hour early and nolan said so. Hopefully that doesn't happen while. Hey if they want to get it over with. We get an hour of derek lewis. I will take it anyway. You guys know the drill. You can ask the questions in the comment. Section on youtube can answer questions with the common section on the site twitter. No promise all get to those right now today because i'm focused. I'm focused on doing it. If i don't see it. I apologize but i think first things first. Alex how is life in california. We haven't seen you on the east side and a bit. It's been a minute. Yeah no we've been kind of preoccupied and my sister's wedding month ago. She got just under the wire of now rising cases and uncertainties again. So we're happy. Life is calling again is calm aka. How's life in markham. Thank you thank you for correctly designating where i'm from and not just. We're not just a greater toronto area. But yes marco. Things are good. Jose there could be better. Covert wise again. We're having a little bit of struggles with people wanting the quarantining and getting the and all that and it's not ideal yet we're still. We're back in theaters. we're back in theaters. And every once the the ninth fast fears films so we're somewhat returning normalcy so the first thing that's for real you really like those dogs loves. It was thought that was gimmick. Chat that if anyone wasn't chat up this early any passes questions i will answer either on the show. I will contact you directly. I'm working on a book. Oxide is so sunday. I liked authorized. Third one it's so good. Thank you ran of culture. I think the third one is an underrated film at jose knife in your met i see people all the time like oh i look all the festers except for tokyo drift. I just pretend to you. Whoa what are you. Excuse me is. The best has the best soundtrack. So good still in rhode island it wanted. It snows my friends. And i used to like 'cause we're stupid used to like drift around corners snow and ice obviously into the tokyo theme song but we were like fifteen and sixteen so it is what it is. I'm not sorry we get in a car accident. Maybe that's how the here nor there but you guys ask your questions. We'll answer them. Tokyo drift related or not. I saw the green knight. The other day is that was also thirty minutes too long. They didn't show the actual ending sergei when in the green light. It's two and a half hours so long movie. That's a lot it's a lot and if you read the story they did not even they ended it before the ending anyway. That's here north heart. How artistic of them galal to artistic for my take but anyway let me find these questions. I am so unprepared. I have no idea what questions went. This is great. I i am participating by the way but i see fast furious persons coming in guys i will answer those in shat but will also mention to the question. First question aka. We're going to get them right away. Dm this isn't timmy. Timmy osho deemed alex. Alex you said this individual has been asking a lot of questions and we have gotten from right so we're gonna get him right out of the gate questions for the eastside. One reports of ballot or viewing numbers were released today. But i've seen some tweets that say youtube numbers from prelims encana were included so from your team's research while we're the final ratings. And how do you guys think it positions them. Positions them fit the future well. I don't know the exact ratings You'd have to ask. i would ask my colleague. Dan wine the ratings guy aka. How was the So i can't give you exact. The numbers or how. They fit into a house the reception in canada for the bell fights. Well i can tell you the so so because the the bell tour card appears actually free on youtube in canada. We do not have a belt or does not have a television broadcasting deal appear used to be on and Well we had. We have paramount network here so used to be on paramount network. But it's not there anymore and we don't have showtime there's no showtime cana so So the good thing is though until there is tv deal. We can watch for free on youtube so the numbers i'm looking at are pretty good. And this numbers. I don't know exactly how to had extrapolate seasons translate these television viewership For the prelims is kind of weird for the prelims. Two hundred ninety four thousand views. This is just on the bill towards youtube channel and then for the main card Two hundred twenty three thousand views. I'm not sure why there'd be less views on the main card so a little using maybe confusing. I don't know again unless unless a lot of the is there is. Maybe there is some way to watch canada. I'm not aware of. But i don't know why people would choose. I fired. i know there really isn't we. Don't have showtime here But either way. Pretty good-looking numbers compared to the actual showtime numbers. I'll i'll bring those up in a second on. There was quite a bit of controversy. Because obviously i note for you guys in the. Us showtime sports is a premium channel. That do you. I mean well i mean. Of course you guys watched it. So i assume you have it. You know you would never want something nefarious. They have a they have an app. So if you have the showtime app you can stream it there so like my television. I don't have cable. So i can't go to channel like three hundred and four and watch showtime but i can t up the app and anything that is you can pay for it on there or you obviously would shelter you watch you watch a free so basically if you spend like five dollars a month you get all of showtime's content okay Yeah so so you still have to pay. You're still you're still correct okay. I'm just slow but of course the the car did a lot better and you know you have people now saying how could a card headlined by sort of this. Non events middleweight. Bout a good middle matchup for sure. But compared to what was being hyped as the biggest fight in belter history. How do such big numbers so strickland a hall did seven hundred ninety seven thousand viewers on. Espn apparently peaked at nine. Hundred fifty. three thousand. For the main event. Bel tor eighty five thousand average and one hundred and seventy seven thousand for the for the mid events. Still under two hundred k. But that's actually a really good number. I think relative to most belt cards so you got people have to kind of you. These you know you can't do these void. There's there's there's it's compared but i understand the public perception that's dead. It looks bad for or i will be curious to see how much live viewers were having latour right. Obviously in this dream we get like x. amount of yours is done and it is on youtube. See how many watched after the fact. I don't know how many people are watching delatour live as it's happening. Alex you did you watch it on showtime obviously What did you make of the product as a whole in terms of the the production of the ballot or fights. I always think it's great. It's i mean. I find the pacing a little slow sometimes. I'll look especially when you have happening at the same time. And we're posting a winner graphics or whatever your legs this fight over like today mystifying. Like oh it hasn't even started like the with our attention spans these days. I mean like you were just talking about two and a half hour movie like impossible. I need this stuff to go. Let's go but other than that. You know great show. The pacing was little. You've seen on fox ish but anyway another question from tim. Timmy oss osho policy feminist. Manashian name this is much smaller on the morning. combat luke. nbc. Saith the best way to keep aj belt or by giving him double champ opportunity potentially boxing fights and good payday but now within a mentioning his name and belt or not having the capital to give him sending mcgregor pay or in the potential future due to low viewing numbers versus sequels less fanfare. Do you guys think it's less likely for ballot or to keep him in the coming years. So i'll probably going to get a few questions about. Aj in ballots are actually going to get a few questions about eighty ambulatory aj in the ufc aka. If your scott coker put on your scott coker hat and for one second pretends that you can actually talk about the future. Not say back to. What is your three step game. Plan to keep agent mckee. Oh my gosh. I mean well. Cbs has to be the first step game on cbs. Or and non Show nod showtime sports game on regular get him get him out from behind a paywall. Get behind the well. That's one is getting from behind a paywall. I do think one of the next steps has to be getting back behind a paywall. I don't mind the idea. I saw a lot of people making fun of it. You know that was one of the courts. Kind of grabbed for story after bell torah to st three. And i get it. It's it's an interesting now. If you look you look at the numbers down and be like you couldn't get them to spend five dollars. Whatever on a showtime sports subscription hiking spend forty to sixty dollars on a pay per view but again they don't need to see numbers with the peer view. They wanna break something like one hundred thousand. Can they do that age mckee. I think it's possible. It has to be the right upon. It has to be the right. Just give me the right circumstances the right weekend. You got to pick the right weekend. The timing timing is everything so that might be step. Two step one. Cbs showed up mainstream showtime step. Three pay-per-view step to in there somewhere as oh boy. I love the idea of someone. Said sent over to rise for fight. I'm not sure how much that helps his cachet over here But if anything just to keep them busy and if you're not going to the pit bull rematch on but they do something create. But i would love the. I love the boxing match. Some sort of damascus. Boxing thing if tower could promote that one of their cards. It hasn't been done before in that way. Having an may promotion actually just promote a freak. Show boxing like that. Just try it. You're gonna have to get outside the box. I think i think Timmy raise a good point that otherwise within the next two years just me. A lot of mckee to uc talk. There is now but it will become very very realistic and the next two years without without a concrete plan. Yeah i don't know what his contract situation is either so if he has x. Amount of fights left x amount of. I don't know how bella towards champion contracts working on the when you become champ. They kind of it can hold you for as long as they can. Extend your contract over time. Don't know the case For that but alex. I think you admittedly didn't watch a lot of bell tour. I would assume before joining them and may fight. I know you and i have covered the ballot or fights. United covered edgy mckee's fight in chicago. He fought occur in chicago. I just thought that he come offers a star after performance during this performance. Part of me wants to say but honestly like no my my baseline for like stardom might be a little bit higher than a lot of people with them. Because i think i'm always there's so much of my life that's not in mma that i see how honestly small the anime sector really is like people talking. Like you're being outside of a may like he's truly not he's really not you know so no a The only person who has transcended mma. Ronda rousey too. I do like my mom. Test does my mahmoud. His name. If i say ronda rousey she knows that is conor mcgregor chinos. Aj mckee is nowhere near that level. But we're talking like going to see what does the alternate to keep him. I mean money talks. I think that's kind of just like the big thing i mean. Scott coker very adamant about like building his talent from the beginning like that's why they're just picking. These people are not taking top town from all these places. It's their to like train them and raise them. Manali build their own stardom but so but to keep you gotta got make it worth their time so you think. He did an interview with our own data. Marin plugged them and again where right before his pit bull fight. Max holloway is still as your opponent at some point. He wants to fight. Brian ortega because when jimmy was nineteen he rolled with. Brian and brian tapped him with a triangle and he goes. I just want that back for myself. But he says if the checks not right. Don't talk to me so you are correct. Alex money money talks. Aj a gym keys gonna need a lot of money to stay. Maybe we'll want another million dollar tournament anyway four-corner sports and why. How likely or unlikely are we going to use to sixty two. Msg for november after the news that came out for new york city. Also if you're at unc. To sixty six doesn't happen. Nyc with other venues would fit perfectly. It has been verse. Covington to miami vegas or other hashtag the side. Ak how likely unlikely does uc touchdown in new york city in november. I mean i think it's possible. I i know so. My understanding is that they're you know they're just simply the mandate is like look. You gotta be double ax and you. I assume some sort of. I don't know how you handling proof in the united states. Some sort of proof of double vaccination before being allowed into indoor restaurants things like that and that's no no it's just a it's just a word back scout's honor scout's honor of double faxer. You cannot question. But either way i would. I would hope Again the most would be by. This'll be november. Probably a little optimistic. But yeah i i if i if if it's allowed i mean mass regard i'm sure they can implement some sort of please be double vaccinated staff vaccinated all the fighters coaches. Everyone must be vaccinated. So it's possible. It's the issue definitely of the partial. They might also decide while we still only have partial capacity. And that's where we run into the problem with dana white. Who has said. I'm not doing partial capacity to venues. It sold out all the way. So if there's even the slightest chance that there's an extra bit of safety protocol from madison square garden. Or from you know the the From new york city. You're not going to see you see to sixty eight man's gardening so it's just not gonna happen to you so I like suggestion. They're definitely florida. The paradise that dana white has has declared florida to be. It's probably where where where they would habitat for the covington factor sent news on some. I guess enemy territory comes in place in florida right like i mean he's popular still there right. Yeah who's who's miniature. Turn the florida too. And he just knocked hard mazda florida. So i don't think problem with their Florida's numbers are looking horrendous. Though real bad really bad. So i don't know i don't know florida's possible you think. Kobe covington is gonna wanna fight in an arena if people are being forced to be vaccinated is on tells me he's not that was my thought to even if the ufc could make msg work. It would be a kind of a dana moved to just pull out of new york city as protest. You know i could see that's happening. I mean we've already seen a handful of fighters including bantamweight champions tweet about this. Which was alarming. I think a lot of he and he was like i. Don't get people that arguing twitter on general using arguing with a lot of people like ten fifteen dollars. Stop it you. Republicans to the best. It happens to her. I put my. I can't do it. I can't do it anyway. miami vegas or other arizona's possibility doesn't seem like we care about any of this happening over here taxes. Maybe i know he wants to go to texas a bunch. I would assume vegas or texas though vegas. You have to wear masks now from what i hear or yeah you have to at least wear the mask. I don't know how they're handling vaccines and stuff. When i heard because i haven't been back to vegas in a bit is. The media has to wear masks again like even if you are vaccinated you have to wear masks. Even backstays frozen. Can you hear me. Yeah okay video district. Yeah mcdonalds mcdonalds. I can't. I couldn't sell if you're deep in thought. Yeah not other videos pilot choppier. Hopefully values come through anyway. We got a few quite a few comments from the previous question. Let's go if they come up champion's championship clause three fights for aj source. My with mickey. So they go questions. Asks answers received. What does that. what does that mean. What does that mean championship clause like so you might extend your fight three year contracts. So question asks view. Okay okay so it's like starting from when he wanted you're saying that he didn't. He now owes them three fights. Okay hey jimmy. Mckee versus concord mcgregor. Mike donahue is but if you're thinking of conor mcgregor wrong way class unless agent wants to one fifty five which i know he definitely does. Some people are saying there's a lot of people though names out for aj mckee but they're all pretty much what he said like aj versus max age versus this anyway. Moving on tavist mckean give mcgregor this point at this point conchords. A goner concord. Greg gregor does not santa chancing. Just your opinions. What are some of the worst papers. Ds's ever put on this week question this week. Features an interim heavyweight title fight. No one asks for. When we could be receiving john jones versus francis g francis. His first name begins with an an and gone and francis also. Okay that's fair. Also francis and the brain heavyweight champion the world he would get top billing not john john's anyway worse paper views. How's that you can go for it. Yeah this on is a one forty. Nine was at the calgary. One that i was i was there was real bad is a fan. I believe once. I'm also really bad. One forty nine was just decimated by injuries. And like every i think only one fight had its original one main main card fight had its original was the original fight and now a congo versus. I can't even remember in even after chicago is like i was hurt. I should've pulled out because it was. It was a bad fight he just. It was a bad heavyweight fight. I should've pulled out. But he didn't want to because everyone was. How does that stretch of time. Where like everyone got hurt. Your favorite was supposed to fight dominant crews at uc one. Forty eight in like the big rivalry and use one. Forty eight was anderson's delivers jail son. In two which was gonna be the biggest pay per view ever at the time. And they were. The coleman event for that dominant crews gets hurt. So they pull you right. Favor from alex's cat is so upset about talking to your your favorite versus hanan. Barral was the main event which was a fine fight. But it's now people wanted is also for an interim title not not the undisputed title and the co main was hector lombard and. Tim his debut is. This was lumbar's oh that was so disappoint supposed to fight. I don't think it was. I don't think it was originally ten looking. I only say oh. Oh no no supposed to fight timbo butch. Yes and then. I don't know where this wasn't that was fired. It's still the anyway to this to this day. But as a couple of years ago it was still mentions one forty nine look. He apologizes for that. That calgary fox card that he brought was like eddie versus dustin yolanda teasha torres. Who else is on. That card was one other really big fight. I can't remember But he's like this is a like a like a pay back in. I'm sorry for one. Forty nine Uc one seventy. Seven was pretty bad. But i was also decimated by injuries That was the co-management was supposed to be. Tj hanan barau tube and then had him barau passed out cutting wait like two days before so they took joe soto former ballot or have champion. Who was fighting on the prelims in his debut and it's elevated into a title fight. He he came up. I think you're asking like it was michael chandler. One of the fastest ever to Took a title and we like just answer the his debut. Yeah In the i can't remember what i can't remember. What the rest. The card was shaping up to be i think. Dj chris carey also was the co main and then that guy moved to uc one. Seventy eight as the main event now is first connor dozen card and tony ferguson. Versus danny castillo was elevated komeda bit. Yes controversy. That was a controversial fight wasn't could steal. Spent the entire fight on top. And tony ferguson was stone elbows from the bottom and danny custodio interview post fight. Because he thought he was. If this fight was in jail. Tony ferguson would have had a new dad. Shutout to ufc seventy six back when they did Titles for which. I sorely miss seventy six knockout which did not feature any knockouts which is just hilarious. But but it had it had of course been a great fights. It's not like a terrible card. I don't think so. I'm looking back on. It certainly wasn't the more memorable ones but it is funny that There was three three missions. Five decision six decisions no knockouts. Ufc you'll see thirty. Three is like widely considered to be like one of if not the worst. That was the. I believe the first pay per view post nine eleven so apparently go vegas was a ghost town from all the stories of her like. No one was in vegas doing anything because of the situation going on in the country and dana. Put this stacked card together like you have three five round fights at the top and he actually did the star spangled banner at the beginning. It was like a whole big thing. And then ev. Almost every fight went to a decision including the three five round fights and they went over time. So i'm pretty sure fans did even see the end of the fight. I think it was tito ortiz vs vladimir matt szewczenko of course remembers that so i believe those are the those are usually on the shortlist. For worse you guys. You guys have two more live events than i have. Savvas was like the worse live event. You've been to like just for whatever reason whether it's because the card was bad he just had a crap experience sir. I read like a really bad experience. There's a couple of like an has nothing to do with like the promotion of the fighters or anything. I just like it'd be like personal problems or issues with other media members We can't cut it now. it's nothing bad. I mean people just short. I'm short person. Until i always like go up on because i'm not blocking anybody's view and then there's people who don't acknowledge the head space above me as my personal space and people trying to put their camera of me and then those guys like arms kept falling and hitting the head on my guy like my space was i think it was. Uc two hundred to twenty two. I can't remember the exact pay per view number but it was back when the the t. mobile arenas media room was the visiting team locker room because obviously t mobile is an nhl Stay are arena and one of the local media. Tv studios got there really late and the the scrums are already happening and he kept telling me to move and i was like bro. I've been here for three hours. You just got here. And i was gonna fistfight him. I was real angry. I was real roaring. Pr yell anyway. Moving on and last and last things ca aka. What's the worst Event you've covered live. Then i've only been to like a handful and even admits undefeated calgary. I remember at one forty nine live. I don't think i was. There live. But i was at. What was the one in. Whip a henderson. All with alan with rashad evans henderson. Rashad evans house bad. Yes babe roy. Nelson was the coleman event. Yeah that was real bad. That was as a fan. I was not covering that was great. That wasn't great. Cards appear great. Cars of the two greatest. Anyway that's four sports. Why again on. Twitter cody cody garbrandt. Go non one twenty five one twenty five pounds fakery karkare france. How many wins would he need to have a fight for the bell and kansas jump. Can this jump to go down. Jump to go down. John to go down flyway help him have on jeopardy or would ban white give him that that better of an opportunity so okay worded strange but i understand what you're saying. I think if cody beats car. France you fight for the title next. Thanks to t mobile for supporting this episode and for keeping baseball fans around the country connected to the game. Because when you're on america's largest and fastest five gene network you get more than great coverage you get to stay close to your favorite team whether you're at home or on the road in other words t mobile is your ticket to the game. Make the switch to t mobile the leader in five g. today that's this. According to open signal awards based on average speeds and usa five day experience report april two thousand twenty one c five g. device coverage and access dell's at team although dot com. Okay if it's like a first round knockout easily you gotta get regardless of whether it the title i think it's a stinker fight for the title but other options are at one twenty-five but he He was scheduled to fight figgy last title and he wins. No it's a good question. But i mean i think like i think if you think about it for like two seconds. The uc loves cody garbrandt. They love cody garbrandt They like his style of fighting like his personality has a huge following online. huge online. following he's he he look the way he came up. He was a made man after he. Dominick cruz was he was a main man after that right so his name is going to carry that forever. Yeah one win. I've asked me impressive. Jose doesn't think so. I don't know what do you think gets no matter what based on what you're saying. You convince me probably. If it was up to me brandon marina would would not fight anyone for long remained flyweight champ for ever that is not nauseating manhattan. Code has gone for him is brenham. Rain is mentioned in cody. They're like would you want to find an accident. I like the cody fight. So if the champions mentioning you then you're already on the shortlist. If cody wants the body reacts before going back down. That's that's another thing also let's not forget. This fight is in december lot. Things could have him do now in december could get. Hurt cody hurt. There's a pandemic happening in the world. Chas skelly walked all the way to. The octagon. Didn't even fight so until i see car friends. And cody garbrandt inside the octagon. This fight not happening. What about What are you guys. Think about the the longevity of it. Yes we'll this. Will this increase longevity. He's not a big. He's a big benway's that he would walk around and like one forty five forty so if he's only if he's cutting five to ten pounds go to one thirty five and adds ten to fifteen. It's not going to be great allergy. Like morning wayans. Alex absolutely born wins. It's gonna get harder every year. Though i mean the older you get. That's what they say. Yeah you don't historically see fighters go down in weight getting all the. I'll say for four corner spot. Sports us like casey four-corner sports hopped into art. I was driving into the city as tweet. Don't drive in tweet. People come on. This is but that's be apologizing for not the wording so i didn't think people drove in new york city a nightmare anyway. I'm going to go through the comments. If i talk about. Aj going to one fifty five. Someone says the t ak how tough then you don't get a lot of the ultimate fighter questions and maybe or maybe we do but Case questions and casey is unknown hater of the ultimate fighter. So don't talk about. How's the ultimate fighter men. The fights have been excellent The whitesman really good so that so that part of it is if you're one of those who only tunes in for the fights. You're having a great time. Very good vice. Very entertaining fights The show is as as a or. They did nothing to their hiatus. Between twenty seasons twenty nine seasons when eight nothing to change the format nothing. That's fine. I've said this to what you will love the ultimate fighter for what it is again. You're enjoying the fights and you're enjoying the way they handle the prefight hype and looking guys. lives cool. Cool if you're if you thought it was still like ten seasons ago it feels more steel than ever like it feels like a show honestly that came out five years ago six years ago. It's so weird But a lot of exciting names on there like ricky rubio fun Schools vincent murdoch of back in the cage. He had the the brain conditioned so. He's back so this this this stores in their towns i think they pick the right divisions. I don't know if i see anyone as being like. Oh this guy's gonna be a future champion or anything. But i think we know a long time ago that that's really not What the old fighter or the contenders are for. So i would say if if you like tough check it out otherwise if you tuned out a long time ago. There's not a lot of reasons attuned beckon. I'm still shocked that they're still using the neon colored basketball jerseys uniform. Yes that has like those oh again. I'm a tough guy madonna. that's done. i'm a guy. I wanna see something i wanna see some flair. I wanna see some jumpsuits. I wanna see bask-. I want to boys to men jumpsuits. Yeah we need to elevate reality. Tv has gone off the deep end like they need to keep up unharmed. You haven't watched the ultimate fighter I actually watched two episodes. This season the first japanese because i love okeanov sqi. I thought i'd give it a shot and it was just unbearable like you said i mean it's like watching something from nineteen ninety four four three. Mit like unbelievable. Yeah if people don't know. Alex averages are resident reality. Tv show expert on fighting dot com. So she doesn't watch it. Probably not scandalous ligo. Anyway from the jerseys adopted along like adidas tracksuits with the meetings we like the hats and everything local jiang it dope donkey chains rolling indiana about it. I'd actually watch jersey and everything anyway. Zuo one dustin recently set recently talk about maybe retiring for focusing on hot sauce business. After winning the belt habib henry henderson. Who'd also retired in their prime. Do you see the same trend with fighters who are able to secure their future financially to leave early after winning the ball so aka. i think it's different firefighter. Because we see a lot of guys who i'm sure are financially set allah matt brown. He owns a gym. You know he's already retired once. I don't think he's hurting for money. But he continues to fight because he just enjoys fighting doesn't need it. Just you know something he enjoys doing. But then when you see henderson habib. I think he'll be might be a little different. I don't think he retired. Because of mon monetary reasons. He retired because his father passed away and his his mother didn't want him to find more. Henry definitely retired for monetary. reasons Wanted a lot more money than dan. White was willing to pay him so he just retired. So will start with you. Will we see the strength moving forward more. We'll see this trend pop up more moving forward. It's like you said it depends on. Firefighter is going to be an initial sample. Because you'll remember he. He has so much mileage on. He's been fighting since he was like a teenager license. Twenty at the documentary. They did on him like five five. He was like reno or something that fighting like a like a carnival or something. Like that wild yeah. He's he's got so he's he's got a lot more modest than most he's only it's crazy. He's only now starting to make the money that he should have. An athlete of his caliber. Should be making mazda same. It's the same. Yeah same right. So so they have a different perspective on it like a guy who becomes champion. Lesbian cody garbrandt a guy. Like cody garbrandt. Even if you had a successful business. I don't know maybe he does have some things on the on the roaster on the fires were he's probably still gonna stick around a few more years longer because his like again he's cheese. He became champions so young. You know they wanna fight. They want it they want to. They want to do it but he's had all the thrills he's done he's really done at all. He's beaten conor mcgregor twice again. He's one and interim belt if he wins the undisputed belt now grounded and really cement his legacy but legacy does not feed the bulldog and it's like he has a family. I don't know if we ever. I'll kind of go in a different paths deduction i don't know if we ever again see the the answers still a chore saint-pierre to meet your johnson eight nine ten eleven straight title fight You're getting ahead. Oh here we go. Also do you see anderson. Gsp john jones dmitri's like shriek from any fighter in the future. so pro. answer that we're gonna see more more fighters retire early for financial reasons. Yes but i don't think it's purely financial either a lot of the i mean we're getting so much. More science and data back about like cd affects sparring and things like that and what. We saw with like the spencer fisher piece from our own. Stephen rocco like this is entering. People's hasn't so make my an interview with one of the younger guys new guy and he was very aware of the damage he took the fight and he's like it was more damaged. I wanted to take you know. I don't want to keep doing this. Like who was that. Molina maybe and he was very like. I don't wanna take that much damage. Man next fights like these. These young guys coming up are very aware of the effects of fighting and stuff like that so but the retiring early in in your prime i mean. I'm one hundred percent advocate for. Because otherwise like you're going to talk about legacy. I mean people want to remember your name as its prime not to mention if you're looking for financial stability after the fact if you want to open a brand yourself or do any of those things better to do it while people know you as one of the best going out on top you know. Nobody wants to join a gym of an old washed up. Ufc chen or whatever so if all all part to consider dancers question how does it benefit a tie fighter to retire. Because they're not getting paid enough to answer. The hendra to question henry huda was set was fine financially. He just wanted as he said heavyweight money and he wasn't gonna get it so he had the power to walk away. Some fighters can't walk away because it's like as to mean said he likes fighting doesn't really care he fights for the belt or not because to him. This is a day job and this is how we feed kids. Yeah so i mean what else are you gonna do. They've been fighting their whole life. I don't have any training you ever seen that. Have you seen when we go. Koto lost one of his life. I think it might have been canal. And then he was backstage. Because you know how. Boxing does behind the scenes and twenty four seven documentaries better than any thing the us's ever done and they just had a camera on him. It wasn't like camera cuts or anything. There was no ambient music plan so you could just hear all the noise around him and his hands were on rats but he was in the back his face was all bruised and cut and his wife is sitting next him and she's just like clearly holding in tears because this is like fifty something fight he just lost badly and then he looks looks at her and she starts bog is out and he and his phrase was like what else can. I do zola. I got i was like all my god like a arch. Praised the cameraman. But show me that. I don't wanna see that. But i'll try to find that clip in sweden tweeted out or something like that. But that is that sticks with me also because i went into that fight as i have said many times on canal hours fan so i was really happy but then i saw that and i just got it just bonds me out so badly because i also like me l. Koto was not rooting for him at time. But it made me feel bad. I think you've had one more fighting than retired. One of the best anyway. Dancer raised question on twitter. Do you ever see an anderson. Dsp john jones or dmitri like championships championship streak with any fighter in the future. I think if someone's going to do it will probably be lose right now. Or maybe i think the robert whitaker fight is going to be very telling. Okay now i. I don't think it would really surprise me. I mean the the equivalent if anything man and nineteen extra changle come to mind amendment especially i mean if you combine the featherweight and bantamweight tell offenses than should get close. You know shops but we already know she. Starting a family She's mentioned multiple times not that she wants to retire but she's clearly looked ahead beyond her competitive years so i always say what's her every year. Honestly coming up could be could be her last I really would be surprised. If she's still competing and twenty twenty three. I would be surprised. I really would. And so she'll she could come the closest but who knows how many tell the festering and there could be one. Fight a year for her. She didn't even wanna modify more than once And then like you said those guys come from a different era where the money was a little different way. The unity rant self was a little different I think it'd be really difficult to hit. The kind of eight nine ten eleven consecutive depends again this other options again. I know feel almost talk about this all the time but like celebrity boxing. There's other things to look outside the ufc Look congre hamlets. Kind of jumping between divisions the motivation. It's there's just not that. Great incentive. I think to necessarily keep defending titles as opposed to looking for new challenges and jumping divisions. And so. yeah. I think it's i think it's highly doubtful. We see one of those again is someone's gonna do. It'll be valentina. I think but she got gross coming up. She's i don't think macy's close macy's obviously believes. Close marina maverick. I think was only gonna get better off for loss. Who else is a one. Twenty five could give her a test. I mean people are really sad but like menefee arose but some of these people feel so far away like prospects like the top. I think less aggressive. It'd be a lot of fun extracting wiser whose gaza fighting right now. You really know. She's fighting joe. Joe joe joe rules. They you have see really wants. Joe joe valentine. They've given joel number one. Contender fights it. They've given i wanna at this point alexandra's beginning seen other long reigning champion. I was gonna say yes but it kind of changed my mind about looking for greener pastures. You're right like being. the champ. Isn't really the pinnacle of the career anymore. It's like what else is out there so the nfl the money. I think valentine valentine this financially secure and she just seems to enjoy fighting like training competing at a high level She's also one of the few that is man up. You know a lot of champions after three or four wins title defense. They start looking for those big money fights but bouncing a really does seem to give me the next body like she's like when when jennifer mayawati's jennifer is next when just moved up. She's like okay like she's not arguing and dan loves. Those fighters loves them. Valentina is fine lauren. murphy is at in october. Hor september. October is that at this zydeco main event to ortega vulcanology. Wait a minute yes. September september in the nick shows right before also five. Oh my god. No kevin joined about that but yeah i would say valentina. If is he gets through. Robert whitaker which is by no means. An easy tasks is there. Anyone who won twenty one eighty five four zero one at one eighty five for either of man honestly outside of each other. You know i think the clear cut. The clear are the best. They are clearly one eight one. Beat me if they'd fight ten times. That could be five and five. I picked up against it. Well you know. Hey shots get up there. Let's see again i have. There's been a few questions about sean strickland performance in the chat in. Hey man sean. Strickland fights is era whitaker. That'd just be a fun fight. Don't don't know if he wins but he's gonna talk a lot and so but is not going to get an is. He's headed all he's not he's not gonna put up with that right and robin williams. Just gonna laugh at him just like seven. I know you don't want to defend his title. But do you think he could did. He has the potential to. It's such a tough division but law. He could he very well could. But it's just it's it's one of those things where every feels like a coin flip at some point like it. Just anything can happen. you know. it's just that mentality go off of that. I can't find the question i'm losing. The questions are coming. Allow faster than they were at the beginning. Perfect there is who get this one out of here. Why do you think high state fights finished so quickly is related to high pressure. Example and chris wiedeman joe's aldo conor mcgregor and most recently patricia. Pit bull edgy from to curl man ninety one. So we do see a lot of fights that are build up in this big exorbitant fashion. Uc puts the pr machine behind it and one's the last time the uc is build up. This big mega fight that ended being like a fight of the year. Oh wow or like an insane fight like you can even like a man news. Rhonda that was lightning-quick. Like a man unisom usa tate was lightning-quick aldo mcgregor eddie alvarez mcgregor. I know that was the second round but it was still like that. That could that eighty one zero seconds to that fight like he's piece them up on sonya robert whitaker like again that was built up to be the big the big middle fight. We just saw sand hagen. Dillashaw i guess under the title fights and stuff. Yeah that'd be like a tier be high stakes by a yeah gas madison. Yeah round the my. But the problem with our vows for an inch title and i felt like the ufc was not getting behind that because the main event was for like the light. That was komen for ago that was entitled. Oh like like like yeah. Like and also dustin wasn't the man yet remember only reason they got. They made that they wanted tony. Habib habib be taken time off and then they said tony fight dust and for the title and he said no and so they gave it a mac so that was like their third option. That wasn't even their first option. Was that the greatest fight card. Ever maybe as allies best main coleman one two punch. I can remember in a long time. But you guys aren't wrong about thou evenly habib pori. Those what second round submission third third second second and third round like it's rough. It's rough. I don't think it's high pressure or anything. These are also like the best fighters in the world fight so anything can happen. I think we were spoiled by the gop era where resolve control out of control. Say exciting in its own way. I always thought. But i do remember at the time. Just probably stay still. I guess a lot of black for his style but the first The first anderson silva chris wiedeman fight obviously ended fifth round submission. But she'll send them so. You said sony. Sonia civil salmon that fight end so that was a big one I mean john. Jones is john guston was dominating race but i mean yeah over how hyper those fights compare compared to civil wiedeman. All mcgregor bit bulky. Yeah i don't know. I don't know there's a bit of of of Confirmation by figueredo merano. Oh yeah thousand just to gauge you and tony ferguson. I know that was. I think a lot of people. Assume just engage. You would be a harder fight for habib tony at the time anyway. So that was more. Like let's see how he does against tony for the title and i am so happy that happen in an empty arena. The first cormet jones fight went Went went five rounds right. Yeah but that was a very competitive but it was a high i mean. It was a highly highly hyped fight. Sultan veterans says. I think vol for sure. I don't think he i don't think he beat holloway but he's a great fighter in champ worthy. I liked vault for sure. So is i don't know if you're saying like bulk have a long reign but check out our rankings. People check out. If you're if you i was gonna rankings by the way was just just came updated today and you can. You can see what we think of. vulcan ask what we think of of holloway and aj. I don't vote on the rankings. Ak does you can go see how. They played out. Alex's volkan ascii or holloway your number one featherweight vulcanology. Yeah mine too. But i just i put him there. Because he's the champion if a lotta people view it as talent wise. And i'd like i think this poison most talented light within the world that still ring chelsea lavar above him because he has big belt. Buckle is neither here nor there anyway. I'm going to bring this up. Because i want to correct this man. This a dual abdulaziz. I can't pronounce. I'm not even try and pronounce. I apologized is practically drowsy. Aj versus max or horiguchi versus marino and fight. Why read this question completely wrong. I must've been really tired. 's interest question anyway. So i'm taking it back. I i thought. Because i see the max they. I was so tired when i was pulling up. Because it's so early. I thought it was. Would you rather see. Aj verses horiguchi. Or that doesn't make any sense. But edgy max or horiguchi versus marino cross. Promotional fight feed ya. I would probably. aj max off horiguchi marino. They are the most they are two of the nicest people you will ever meet in the world. If they're so mad about this saturday what are you saying. I don't like watching. Tonight's people fight. So i guess i'll take there you go. That's very fair. I'll make the case for gucci marina. I mean i know. I know a lot of people might have might not be following. Hor kuchis closely still rise. And he's not fighting north america but he's his fights have been super exciting as it was before before he when he was in the afc. Just such a fun fighter to watch and him and marino. I agree with sucked to that. One of them would have to lose. Went to a draw but man like just the skill level. And i'm not saying aj versus mckee would not be high school. But there's something intriguing about the speed and the skill level chain marino. And i'm trying to imagine now in japan guys like i wanted to like a pack saitama super arena or something that's great visual have really can't happen now across emotional so can happen anyway but the yeah that to me. Maybe maybe i give that to edwina. Also i'm probably more intrigued right now with sort of i still think there's like this challenges for aging mckee in beltway that i'm interested in Marino yes there's guys but again the i think quite a few might be some of them might be rematches and things like that and then Horiguchi got he needs fresh fresh opponent. So i think that'd be a cross. Motion fights and ballots are too yeah. Cholera gujaratis would rule. Yeah and should happen. Or what if pitt will drop donna. One thirty five and fought horiguchi. One can dream as possible injury. We've been saying he looks. He looks like a guy. Make alexandra's if you haven't watched like old uc in beds or actually. I'm pretty sure gucci youtube channel. Or just go watch some videos. He is the most jovial man named brand marino and he loves fishing so much. I have never met a man who loves fishing. More than kyoji horiguchi like. I think like this whole argument over that gregor last week. Being the best fisherman. And i think is cured you horiguchi. I've been saying that forever. There's an i remember an old embedded before we meet us johnson and he was like in montreal or montreal and he was like watching us literally just watching people fish on his ipad. He goes and he's like discuss gets my mind right like he's like conway and he just literally goes and he's just like this is. This is my happy place. I'm like oh man. I'm here for its i'm here. He's such a nice man though. Trains down at a a. Att right yeah. He's eighty such a nice individual anyway. Terrence lover onsite. Judging by round will be quick with wall tried to be quick with. I know you ought get ask questions about judge and all the times. We'll offer an idea. I said on twitter to e. e. Casey lied and i think fight should be scored by the round. Like if two out of three judges give you that around. You want it that way. We get rid of split. Decisions of judging was done like this. Like on the t. j. versus corey fight. He would have won thoughts bs. Please bring back Questions or allow fans to video chat in like brandon shop does on his new show. Thanks and welcome back alex. So yeah we'll have. We'll have updates on the side. Maybe at another time for that. But i would love to bring back the video video submission questions but real quick aka. Do you like the idea of judging fights round-by-round i mean i'm not against it. It's because i don't think it paints that picture than what we're getting now so for people who might not understand terence's question. I don't know if everyone knows the exact score situation. Two out of the three judges Scored the fight for corey. San hagan in three rounds of that fight with digital shop. But if you look if you tabulate the numbers the the math away. It's you know the total score than its tj. Who got more sorry. The more tens that he needed. I know it's confusing. I would just tell people go. Look up the scorecard and kind of do the math. It's almost like like a mind trick. This happens in a few fights. This social happen in the second nunez shevchenko fight shevchenko actually won two out of three judges scores on three rounds out of five but the way the math adds up Menounos gets the guy had more forty eight forty seven. It's very very strange. So i'm not against trying. I don't think it goes against the spirit of how the scorecards are tabulated. So let me. I'm more into this than open scoring. So i say that next case he's not here so i'm not going to get a whole diatribe about it but Yeah i like. I it is and so you will corey one. It would kind of go along with the eye test as well now would create some other. New controversies. I'd have to look back at situations. Where maybe it didn't work out that way but i like the idea parents. That's a good point to bring up. And i advise fans really look at these scorecards and kind of be like how did that. How did this come to this number. It's it's interesting. It will be interesting when you get. Those nine nine runs like didn't who got Was it the kaku maka maka. Heck yeah yeah. You got to draw asked you like this idea. No it's just a band aid fix. What the real problem is isn't that's bad judges true correct. I like i like the age. I just like the you on this around you on that around like in pride. I don't need the whole ten nine system. If you're like everyone said i know. Alex scott is the on camera saying like us the whole ten point system get like ten threes give it ten folds like ten seven. Shouldn't we never attend sevens anymore I remember when frank. Edgar in grade fought to a draw. Do you remember that. First round ak was just. I prefer not to think about and i remember the slammed. The comeback slam. Yeah that first round was basically gray maynard beat him as close to death as a fighter could possibly like if the referee stopped it. I would like yeah. Thank god but he let it happen. And then franken. You're still came back and won and i remember. Yes draw. well he then he. He climbed back up the next year. I remember gray maynard watching it was like an embedded not in as like a canton or something. he's like. why was that. Not a ten seven. Why was that not. Like i was like i idaho. I don't have an answer for granted as a good question anyway. i guess. Individuals has a second and third idea. We answer one of his before. I'm sorry i it's been a long morning. I apologize second and third idea. I have tried messing you guys on facebook. My question ever gets read include international audience. We sorry I know it's live allowed to other. Podcast managed to include more than us audience in the shows. You're not wrong i apologize. We bring this. We will bring this idea to casey from unique aerial interest in using him back on spelled. You apostrophe neak. I watched ballot or for the first time and these are some things that i enjoyed over. Us events so interesting that we answered asked alyssa's earlier fighter walkouts production work following them beforehand. So he likes the fighter walkouts. What he's saying like. Oh shows it's showtime right. So it's i don't know how if i don't know if that's ballatore. Employees are seen in place. When actually i know they hire a lot of their contractors because alex when we covered chicago the to chicago our old colleague connor was with us and he knew all of the tax working. He's like oh yeah well that guy that nba game. I worked at that guy at hockey games like they clearly brought in like professionals not like actual ballot or employees. So did you got you guys like the walkouts for balladur. I love them sure. Nobody doesn't right. I feel like i would love them. But like i don't know just how should they be done. They're just cringe. Like just do better pick a better song. Stop trying to dance. If you're not unreasonable. I it takes me out of it. Ali disagree with dance dance. Your belt fighters dance your hearts out if you're terrible. Good i don't care dance your hearts i who was handed guy was a hanukkah the value of the rada. That's the dow's one of my favorite of the year dance. Dance dance dance. I'll i'll never talk will not to dance. Oxide was how dare you did you. Did you guys like did you guys like. Aj's insurance coming out to dr dre with the money and everything. I'm sick i don't remember it. He walks out to dr dre. California inglewood's from california and he had a massive water. I don't know if it was real money or not. But obviously the winner gets the million dollar checking up in the air. I think that is very overplayed. Yeah that's okay in every aspect of entertainment not just the sports world but making it. Rain is very two thousand three for me and if it never happens again. I wouldn't care unless there was something funny. Do you have a little bit of a high school Vice presidential election i. I liked that. I always have maybe mature. I liked that. I i need someone to do. You guys remember the did the elections and its high school. He's telling to do that. Oh he's he's coming in on a helicopter and he's he's on a boat and he's driving on a motorcycle and it's like he's coming into the arena out of the entrance. How did they do that pretty much. All wwf to do. I find those hilarious. Why cheesy then fine. But like it's taking themselves too seriously while they're like fake wrapping here. No it has to be sincere. It's not funny. I don't want winking at us. I don't want. I want us to be able to laugh with them. Okay but see. They're not laughing with themselves. They're like yeah. I look cool. I look like. I'm about to fistfight a human being the money in the air. Yo twenty two thousand thirty two thousand three still thing. Anyway go ahead. Does the round kids from out. Stand up so i liked around cage aesthetically. I despise what it does for for the actual fighting. Because you can't corner anyone you cannot corner. You cannot make these angles into circular cage. I think it's i hate the circle case. I hate it so much. Gimme the dough. Deca hejin over a circle. That's a sixteen side. I think that six sites anyway colored gloves were cool. Love the colored gloves. I love love. Love do yes. And and look at one of the stop putting the fighters shorts as the identity short color as identification the fighters just to red corner blue corner just do red and blue sometimes like. Here's guys in the shorts. This guy's in the silver shorts it's super. It's really confusing. So the very least nakayama cool colored glove thing. Just you still have the corner. So the the tape on their gloves. Just do the county coroner there in stop being cute with the colors. Love the blows. You can dance but don't be cute with the colors that you know you're getting it anyway. We've got a few more questions specifically for k. If i can ever find them. I doubt it though no choice. Are we counting john guy. What's the over on fast and furious thirty happening. I an project it's already that's been video games spinoffs. There's been shorts. That's there's a cartoon starring dominic torito's nephew believe tony toronto. Yeah we're kind of already at all the lore. That's right paul. Was it paul walker. He's the one that passed away. Right is he is. He is he Is it missing him. The ninth one. It's getting super awkward. Some people really liked how it was handled in the new one. And i. i understand why. I don't want to spoil anything. I'll say it's getting awkward. Why he doesn't show up and literally every movie now the last two movies. It's one line it's like it's like where's where's brian went to. Paul walker's got he's He's gotta look after the kids aren't moving on. Let's see if the world. Everybody be really nice to brian around. It's a shame he has to take the kids at school today. Okay let's go. let's go let's go. Don't don't mention them anymore. Getting comfortable. who is the dude punching the bag and during the credits in the chat. I don't think he's an established fast. Furious character of well-known sort of. Paul walker's was a creep right. Isn't that what i hear in real life wasn't a great person. Maybe a little. Leonardo dicaprio dating some under some young women. Like when you say young you mean like like under eighteen young right. I'm going to tell you look. But they are allegations out there. The s when he was out there somebody some improper relations. So look at your favorite fast and fierce character and then will end on this mea will say jordan. Bruce was character. Mia is so underrated. She's like one of the most high disregarded early your idea that who she is the she is love interest of paul walker in the first movie but becomes so much more than that. She's heart and soul the fast and furious franchise and just because she doesn't she gets a kick ass the with people for the most part. He's like the the mom wife character she is. She motivated so much of the action in the series. You shouldn't have saved this question for last. Because i can give you twenty minute tree. Tease on my dentist. Essential to the purest. I would love nothing more. She was sorely missed in the eighth movies. But i'll say not my favorite character. But i want people to show more appreciation to mea thereto slash. O'connor they actually got married mitterrand anyway however come back with his whole causing the new one and he's not all i should say. Yeah he's out now henman he's just bow and yes all the three guys from tokyo drift. Come back and they are unrecognizable. Yeah just oldest. Look different the movie. Technically i think is set. May i hear from people that i know that watch. This is like all the movies are not in chronological. There's a lower whole exactly. I had no idea. I've seen the first one like when it first came out and i i will spoil this. We could so all the different. There's a really cool character hans solo who die so or just yet who dies. But he's such a cool character they want to bring them back for the sequel. So they said oh screw. We'll just say he's alive but that these movies are before to place before tokyo. Jeff ignore the phones ignore the cellphones. Chronic like chronologically is tokyo drift. Last movie not anymore. It is now before the time line has caught up so we are now with seven. We caught up so so it is between or and seven. No sorry two thousand six hundred seventy learn something new every day but i remember bowel. Bowel had his was like a sigh on like one of those boxcars and it was green and he had customized it to look like hulk fists or come out of the car. I think they thought that was actually going to become something because no i don't remember what year that came out. But even i was like that's stupid but i love it anyway. We're gonna end this because we got up the series. That sums up the anyway we we we. We went five minutes over. I know he got media today coming so we can't hang out with you guys all. I'm sorry alec savvas before we sign off you got anything say plug. No no no no. She doesn't watch best pairs catch. Because you didn't put up if you're gonna start people if you're if you're a fast newbie fast newbie or curious newbie. Whichever one you want to be a foodie. Thank you alexandra you always have to say. I would highly recommend with fast five. That's actually the first one i watched. It's a really good mood as the best series is the best one in the series. It informed so much of what comes after. It's a little bit difficult to go back. After because the first one the first movie is so different from everything else but you can do it. You can do it. And so i would say i fast five. I absolutely love how into fast fast fast and furious. Ak is on very very real. This is this generation star wars trilogy. I don't know it is never seen star wars either. But i would want to watch the nine main street. Main line films the nine mainline star wars films. I'll and i love the result shows you start fairchild is ever but in total all night. I'll take the nine movies any day any day. how right anyway. We'll end ended on that fast. Five rock bought my ticket. So i love that movie but other than that. I haven't seen any of them so no judgment for me like you guys can like. What are you guys like. Stick around on this youtube page. Casey's live on the scene at ufc. Two six five media in houston and then alex and i will get clips out. Get a stories out. 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Self-Management & How To Take Control of Your Day

Creating Strength

44:19 min | 8 months ago

Self-Management & How To Take Control of Your Day

"Email is almost always like ninety percent of the time somebody else's priority. Now so i don't check my email first thing in the morning because i don't care about somebody else's priorities. I care about my priorities. Because i need to get things done for my clients. I need when i worked in corporate america for my co workers. I needed to work on those things to be able to deliver. And then i would handle everybody else's priorities and i think the reality is you can change the culture of a company and also yourself through email. Welcome to the creating strength. Podcast with your host lauren kennedy. I'm a former personal trainer. Jim owner fitness figure competitor. Mama of to wife and midwestern girl found a career. She loves but will always be passionate about all things learning and helping women find their strength and confidence and motherhood here on the creating strength. Podcast i understand that women are expected to wear many hats and the many things in a single day but i think we are all striving to be our very best and i to help you do just that. We will talk about parenting marriage. Nutrition fitness career life and mentoring. You're going to get practical tips tools strategies and hear interviews from other women and moms to give you the inspiration. You need to help create your strength all right so before we get started in today's episode. I wanted to share something. That has become really near and dear to my heart. You know. I like sharing products that i actually use in so today i thought this would be a perfect chance to share something that has changed my life of the last month or so a little. Over a month ago. I started using essential oils and i to young living's website and i started researching and trying to figure out what what's all the fuss about. I started seeing things on social media. As i'm sure you've been seeing and just what in the world is is the big deal like. What can they actually do for you and i decided to take the plunge and ordered my starter kit and i am so thankful that i did and i wanted to share a story with you and the reason for this is because i know a lot of you guys out. There might be in the same situation. Maybe taking medications and october i. I had nephews and surgery. And i have my thyroid taken out and so it was about twenty nineteen herniated a disc in my neck and it has just been a thing. I have been dealing with ever since then. Severe pain has been like the theme of my life. And so i ordered my starter kit and i started learning about all the oils that were included in it. And i got my diffuser. I put one in the kitchen. And i just noticed that i started to feel different. I started to feel more calm. And i would put lavender in my diffuser at night and i just felt sort of more relaxed and it was a slow transformation where i started learning and figuring out how to actually incorporate these things into my life. And then i started using peppermint and a oil called valor. And you guys have been off of pain medication for the last three weeks. So i took pain medication about after my surgery and then after that i started using oils more and more. I haven't even taken advil. It is amazing. And i just had to share that with you because there was a point in my life i thought i would never be able to get off anything especially things like advil. I know a lot of take at least advil once or twice a day. And so i had to share that and they know if you guys are wondering about essential oils in wondering what they can do for you. I encourage you to head to my website. Aloha dash beautiful dot com to the page aloha essentials. I have a beginner blog. Post kinda share the oils that is started using. And what they're good for and you can click on the get started with oils link and that will take you to where you can actually purchase your own starter kit. And that's exactly how. I got started it. It was just. I took the plunge like what do i have to lose. And in his just every day. I've learned something new. I have a pre workout roller. They need and i'm going to write blog posts and all it's just i. I'm so thrilled with it. And i'm so becoming so passionate about it. It's even transform the way i parent. I've got a diffuser in my girl's room and they get to pick out an oil at night and they just love it and for those moms out there with toddlers so i have a three year old. She's a free spirit spunky with lots of energy and you guys know sometimes that energy overflows and you've got your tantrums. You gotta deal with. And i will grab an oil peace and calming and i'll just put a little bit on her arrest and she she'll take a deep breath in and that one moment just allows her to calm her emotions down and so it's really transformed every member of my family and so i wanted to share that with you again. Go to aloha dash beautiful dot com and head to my aloha essentials page will also provide a link in the blog post and show notes for you guys so all right onto the episode is welcome back to the creating strength podcast. I am joined here today by sarah. Mayor and i cannot wait for this interview. Guys she is going to talk to us today about time management and. I'm sure that there's so many of you that are just like me. We need to maximize time. Our to do are not getting any smaller. In fact i feel like mine is triple wing so sarah. Welcome to the creating string podcast. Happy to have you today. And could you just provide us with a little introduction. Tell us who you are. And what your journey has been liked to get to where you are today. Yes thank you so much lower in for having me. I'm thrilled to be on with you today. I always love being on podcast but also just connecting with other women excited when we connected on social and just great to have time to be here on your podcast. A little bit about me. A my name is sarah and frequently. People have told me that. I get more done in a day than anyone and i must have more than twenty four hours in a day and i don't i don't have more than twenty four hours in the day. Everybody has the same amount of time. But it got me thinking that i had mastered somehow how to maximize my time and so i should share that with everybody else. I spent a lot of time in corporate america and then a nonprofit leadership in operations and i started doing trainings in a kind of lead me on this journey where my boss hainan nonchalantly said he go figure out what the top people are doing and then whipped together. The training and being very i was like well. I'm gonna go sit with them. They must be very productive in have a lot of tips. And i found that they were the least productive. People i'd ever matt actually really. Yes shockingly what they were doing was they. Were out working. Everybody and many women. I talked to do the same thing if i work harder. If i work more hours. I have to work twenty four hours a day when i build. My business is normal but the reality is that doesn't mean more productive than get us closer to our goals. So i figured out that they were actually working. The average of two point five people so more than two peoples worth of work they were doing and the burn out was really high once i aggregated all the data inside his culture. We want to have at the company. I win looked at the people who were only working forty hours and i found that they were the most productive people they had a system that had a plan and what i put together that trading it changed the company culture but it also changed a lot of people's lives and people started asking me. You get a lot done. how do you do it. can you help my wife and that's how my consulting business started. I just started doing this training on the side that i had builds because of watching these people ineffectively work in full transparency. I was not as effective at that time. As i am now. And that's how my training program started my coaching consulting company. I've been working on it eleven years now. It seems like yesterday but it has been eleven years. So let a little bit about me. And how i got started. That's crazy. that's i mean you just kinda fell into it because there's obviously a need and you're obviously amazing at it and i. Would you know speaking to that. Like working forty hours and looking at some people that i know just their social media and they're trying to start their businesses and i know i work in the evenings and on the weekends and it doesn't mean you're more productive some days i walk away and i'm like i did not accomplish those five things i wanted to accomplish. I maybe did one. What in the world is happening. So let's talk about a foundational question here about the focus on time management. What is it about that. That lights your fire. You really interesting. I actually don't like to call it time management. Because i don't think you can manage time. I think you can only manage yourself. And that's what really lights me up. Because i realized that many women many men go into business for themselves or even where they work wanting to have a better life wanting to do all these things they wanna go on vacation. They wanna have freedom. They want to have the ability to pick up their kids in the drive through pickup line at school everyday yet. They get into these situations where everything they wanted gets. Further and further away. Because they're doing all these other things so what might be up is the to give people back their freedom and get them closer to the life they really wanna live. Because that's what happens when you learn how to manage yourself. And then time management kind of falls in there you get closer to that dream. Life not is so true. That is just fought on. Let's talk about like the very beginning stages you've been doing this for eleven years. You're obviously you get better as time goes on. Can you talk to our listeners about what it looks like in the beginning. Yeah in the beginning. I really started with tips and tricks in one off things that helped people to be more productive and those were very helpful. They got some short wins. They were able to. I worked with a client. That sixty five thousand. You heard that right sixty five thousand unread messages and she was a a supervisor in a big company and was like we just need more people and that was her solution so i worked with her so i was able to help her clean up or email manager email. I was able to get all these clients. Short wins but as i started thinking about it from the beginning it was bigger than that. It was a system that you have to live by in. It also had to tie to the goal so if your goal was to have a business to have freedom you needed to be really clear on that and you needed to then tie into your system because if if you're just incredibly efficient but you're not moving forward towards your goals those big things that you really want your just checking all stuff off a to do list. It's not getting you anywhere. So when i first started it was about little tools and tricks and now it's really about a system that starts with goals. And then we build the system individually to the person. Okay so you. You basically look at that person's life and what they're doing productivity wise or not productivity wise and you can actually specialize in kinda hone in on what exactly they're doing of fix it from there. Yeah i do that individually with clients. I do that as a group. I have a online course where people can take the course and build their own system. So for example. I don't like to work on thursday. And friday on to do list items. So i typically finished with my to do list by wednesday so that on thursday and friday. I can focus on relationships. Client management the warm and fuzzy. Because i'm not worried in my head about all the things that have to do. So that's my goal. That's my system. That might not work for somebody else. Because monday through wednesday. I'm packed with tussle tasks in schedule blocking and then thursday and friday. I just kind of build relationships and do other things. It doesn't mean. I don't do anything on thursday and friday but that's how i chunk my schedule and that i work best because once i've accomplished stuff then i feel like okay. I can have a thirty minute conversation with a friend about nothing or something important. Yeah that's like the one thing i feel like. I don't have time for so. It's really ironic. That you bring that up because as i look like my was and all the things that i have going on i often think about how we're always trying to multitask and i'm not even convinced that multi is i don't like is a thing because you're not honed in on one thing and so i'm currently trying to to do block scheduling trying to focus on things. Sometimes my mind will be like why i still do that. That matt ten gets taken away and then at the end of the day. I feel like i don't have time to really create the relationships i wanna and it makes me a little sad. I'm just like that is one of the things i want to be doing and direction. I wanna be going. So that's such a good strategy. And i love that. You brought that up so as you're building your business in your helping people. What kind of struggles have you had along the way what. What can you to if we've got listeners. Who are trying to kind of do what you're doing on their own. And maybe they're in a coaching profession. Speak to any of those struggles that you had along the way and and maybe you would address. Yeah that's a great question. So i have always working as i mentioned in corporate america and i had a team so i could come up with a crazy wild idea and walk out of my office and be like hey guys we should do. This and eighteen people would scramble around and figure out how to do it when i first started my business. The team was just being the people in my head talking and they don't do much so i haven't figure out how to technically do a lot of things but also how to get my schedule because when you start your own business many times you want freedom you don't wanna have. I have to be here at nine o'clock. And i have to have a lunch at this time and i have to whatever that is and i found my schedule getting away for me really quickly where somebody would say. Hey i'd love to have a call with you. And i have a call and then at the end of the month i be like okay. I had all these calls. But i didn't make any money and i think that was really important for me to sit down and get clear about my and what i really wanted as far as freedom wise what that would look like to have freedom and then built my business around that because what you don't want especially when you're in business you don't wanna just have another job because a lot of people build another job and that's their business so i think it's really important for me to think about that. I struggled at the beginning with not having a team being the the solo person. And i built a lot of connections with other people who are doing the same thing and i did a lot of trades with them. Like you're good at marketing. Helped me with this. I'm going to operations alright. Your employee manual. When you hire your first employees. How can we work this out. And so i kind of built that community. And then i really got clear about what my business should look like and what might time should look like every week and i don't apologize but if somebody's like i want to have a call on sunday night i would have to have a pretty hefty conversation with myself about the value proposition. There and if it's not getting closer to my revenue goal and probably not having that call on sunday as such a good point league player in the days where so my listeners. Now that i own my own business for fifteen years. And i'm not sure that there was ever one hundred percent point where a super clear on it and if i had to go back and do it again i'd sit down and that's one of the things i would. Change is getting super clear on it. So that's great advice and talking about running. Your business is not easy as not for the faint of heart so if you had some tips for our listeners on working hard and staying motivated and even the long days it's hard running your own business. I'm sure that if you have one days judging by what how your schedule things out you may not have long days. So how would you describe how you handle that. Stay motivated in any tips. That you have if i do have long days because i've scheduled them that way. So maybe i took on a client or something a project that i knew i would have a long day because of that and i put it on the calendar i think oftentimes when we are planning things and thinking about big things we do plan for the big thing but we don't block off the other time to make sure that it doesn't get eaten up by the little things that creep in our little thirty minute meetings so the best example. I can give you as if you're planning a vacation. You typically plan the day you leave what you're gonna do where you're gonna go the flights all that stuff but there's so much more that goes into planning a vacation. You need time to pack time to do the laundry time to take the dog to the vet to get the shots to put them in the kennel or whatever. Get your nails on your hair done anything like that so because of that. What happens is as a vacation gets closer. You're still booking appointments. You're still booking stuff for work and then all of a sudden you're like and i have to do all this other stuff which is about twenty hours worth of work to go on vacation and now the week before vacation. You're working forty hours plus twenty hours doing all these other things. So what i tend to do is if i know oil vacation. I'm gonna put all those things in my calendar. As soon as i booked a vacation and then as people are asking me for things or talking to clients. And they're asking for things to do that week. I can already see that. My week is really busy because i have four hours of laundry and packing on there so i would naturally say no to that because i can see ahead that that's going to be a busy week whereas if it's not on my calendar i might say yes not thinking about the fact that i have twenty hours of additional work to actually get me to the vacation and then on the flip side. Would i get back from vacation. I do plan fruit to down ketchup days so that i don't come back to a day full of meetings or anything like that so i think just planning ahead win. You do know you're going to have those long days or those projects that are going to be at night so that you don't have your normal day on top of your night. Whatever project you're taking on it sounds like you're super intentional about how you and i think that's really important. If you wanted to achieve your goals you have to be really intentional in you. Also have to be very protective of your time and i think that's important too. That is incredibly important. I would love to now. How mindset plays in to what you do mindset is huge. I have on my calendar. A weekly monthly and daily reflection. The dailies like ten minutes. The weekly is about forty five minutes half hour to forty five minutes then. Every month i spent an hour. And i reflect and this really goes into the mindset and i think about how do i wanna show today. What meetings on my calendar or giving me stress. How am i gonna handle those talk myself through them. Sometimes i role play in my head of how i want the conversation to go but i mentally prepare myself for those things and then at the end of the week i think about. Did i show up the way. I wanted to show up. Did i have the freedom. This week to do what i want did. I have the freedom to be spontaneous because that's one of my major values. I want to have the ability to be spontaneous and not be rigid. Which sounds weird. Because i'm talking about planning. But i've so that i have more time to just do whatever i want like this weekend. For example i decided. Yesterday i was gonna go to albuquerque because i had the time because i worked my schedule that way. Yesterday i should go to albuquerque okay. You're i am. So that's what i do for mindset is i really make sure that i'm checking myself and scheduling my day so that i don't have back to back stressful meetings and then end up in a bad mood so that's kind of probably play my day. I couldn't a chunk it out in my week and then for mindset perspective. I take some time to really think about everything. I do at least every day for fifteen minutes so i'm really curious to know if you had advice for our listeners. Who are trying to follow their dreams trying to start their own business in coach. How do you reach your clients. What are you put your plate as far as marketing and strategizing to try to build your business and get new clients. That's a great question. lauren. I think the biggest thing and i already mentioned this is getting really clear on who you want to help what your goal is and then what that freedom is for example. You do not wanna to work evenings or weekends. The people you wanna serve may or may not be busy working adults. Whoa have time on nights and weekends. Or you're gonna end up being very unhappy in your business. You may help people. You're not going to be happy with the fact that you always have to work evenings. We gets you might want to think about serving people who have more free time during the day. Even though it's stay at home moms really do not have a lot of free time but then they can get you typically jump on a call or something like that so i think it's really important in the beginning to think about who your ideal client is and does that fit with the lifestyle you want as business in fidesz great and then you market specifically to them and i think it's really important to remember that we don't have to be experts in everything we just have to know a little bit more than when somebody else knows and be willing to help them in an authentic way. People don't want somebody who has everything all figured out. They typically don't open up to them as they would to somebody who maybe struggled and then figured out how to get out of that struggle. And i think that's really important to a lot of times when people open businesses. They're in this perfectionism mentality in everything has to be perfect and a dozen. John is better than perfect. That has been the motto of my life. Lately it's just with all the things might play them like. I can't take the time to a perfectionist. I think a lot of people. I work with are perfectionist and we struggle with that. We want it to be just right. But i'm like we don't have the time to nitpick everything that we're doing even with this podcast. It's like just judging and figure out. How can i make it better before. I release it and all these things so yes i love it. Done is better than perfect and well. Here's the thing with podcasts. Well with anything actually. People don't want the polished perfect person all the stuff like i love. You know people who are like. Oh kim kardashian. Yeah but you don't have that life so the reason that podcasts are so popular. An instagram is so popular because people want to see people's real life. That is just like that. So i think that's really important when we open businesses to remember that if you connect with people authentically. It doesn't matter if it's perfect or not. What matters is the value. You're delivering that. They can see you as a real life human and know that your life is just as chaotic. As there's i think that's where we get stuck a lot of times as women especially because we have to be perfect. That is so true and actually leads me to my next question is going back to mine. Said of being perfect often leads to comparing ourselves to others. They kind of live almost in the same boat. Where if we do look at someone else. They have it all put together or they're running their business. Whatever the case may be. Do you struggle with that or have you had times in your life where you're comparing yourself to other people. And how did you get through. That can get over it absolutely. I mean everybody's faking it until they make it. And i think once i figured that out i was like. Oh she's faking it to like shoe just figuring it out as she goes along. She's just five steps ahead of me. How do i copy her and emulate her and. I think that's really important that everybody has these bad days in. We also need to show those so that people can see the struggle that others go through. I mean we can do it in different ways. But that's where the real life comes into play. And i think if we could just not be perfect every once in a while. I think we would have some more authentic connections with. That's so true. And if you had on piece of advice to people who have meeting of trouble staying inspire when you're running your own business. I'm guessing we all have days where we don't necessarily want to work. Maybe we just want to sit on the couch but we still have so you made your west and you kind of plan everything out. How do you handle the days where you wake up. And you're like i planned this out. But i don't really feel like it. Yeah absolutely you move it around. You need to have the flexibility to work in your creative genius and if you don't feel like it at that moment than move it around do it some other time but i think it's really important is if it's on your list you need to make sure that it is something that is getting new closer to the goal for example. I have a woman that i worked with. Who really really wanted to get healthy. It wasn't about way it wasn't about anything. She wanted to be healthy for her kids. So that when they went on a hike she could actually go hike workout three times a week. Which does not seem for thirty minutes does not seem like a big thing but that was always the thing that she'd wake up in the morning. I don't feel like doing that. She get home late at night. I don't feel like working out now. So as always the thing that got pushed to the side but yet she kept saying this is the most important to me and because of that she never got closer to it because she let everything else kind of creep in and so we a plan where she was gonna put three circles on the back of her front door and by sunday each one of those circles had to have chuck market it with the date that she worked out. if she didn't get all three circles by sunday guess what she had to do on sunday a workout an hour and a half long. You know how many times she didn't have by sunday one time. That was the longest our half of my life. I will never do that again. And so she found time in reality when she looked at her time throughout the week. She's like oh. Yeah i'd binge watch that show. That was four hours. She had plenty of time to do three workouts. It just was always a thing. She didn't feel mentally wanting to do at that moment in so she had to play tricks on herself and put it on the back of her door so her husband in everybody could see it and one time she didn't do. It had a miserable time and then every other week she found a way because it was important to her and she was able to. Kinda you know. Change things up. If she didn't feel like working out in the morning it was okay. Because it's only tuesday but if it was saturday she'd get up because she wanted to check those boxes off. I like that. that's true accountability. So i'm serious. Because like i said i am sort of in this place in my life where i feel like to has a mile and i'm putting together this podcast and i have all these goals in family kids and i know that other women that i'm close with my friends are really struggling right now with all the things going on in their life whether it's having to take care of a family member who is sick starting a new role in a position and then getting a whole bunch more work where it's like kinda balancing two different roles within a company so i kinda wanna speak to people who work in corporate america e eds. They got their job. And it's just the amount of things to do our never ending. Can you speak to maybe a couple of tips that you would give someone in that position. Say here's how you approach your day and feel like they can walk away from their day or like you said. Walk away from your computer at the end of your day. Four or five o'clock or whatever it is and go man like nailed. It today was productive and i did it so a couple of things about the to do list. I will mention there will always be more to do. They are never ending in. I think many times we have this mindset of after cross everything off my list and that just doesn't work that way. The goal is not a hundred percent complete on your to do list because there will always be something every day every week. There's something else that's added so it's really about moving the ball forward. It's kinda like football. You wanna get closer and closer to the end goal of whatever project is or something like that so the biggest tips that i give people are to come in every single day and look at your to do list in find the three most important things. It could be write a business plan. It could be do. My social media content calendar it could be invoice clients whatever. It is the three most important things that are. I like to stay tied to revenue. If you're a business owner and then you those on your calendar in specific spots so for me. It's the first thing in the morning. I don't get up and check email. I get up and work on the most important thing of the day. Then in the middle of the day i have a little block of time and then the critical block is the last hour of the day. I put the third most important thing. It could be the most important but one of those three in the last block of the day. I put it there for a reason because then it's a mental game for me. If i think it's gonna take me an hour and a half an hour time block between four and five if it only takes me forty five minutes. Guess what i get to do go home. Close my laptop. If i work at home so that mentally makes me focus on that because i can't go anywhere until that's done because it's one of the most important things have to do for the day so then i feel incredibly satisfied every day because i got those three most important things done an often times i find i can get them done quicker than an hour and you were talking about multitasking. Won't they testing. There's a lot of research out there that you actually can't multitask. Your brain is actually just shifting. It's like if you were shifting from drive to reverse strive to reverse. That's what i like to think about it. Because it's how confusing that would be if you're in a parking lot just imagine you're driving than reversing the driving. You're getting nowhere but you're doing a lot of action in so there's a lot of conversation about how our brains actually can't do two things at once so when you do the blocking of time on specific projects and you only work on those things you may start blocking it for an hour. Because you think it's going to take an hour but you'll find when you're only working on that and you're really focused on it. Most things will take you less than half an hour. That thing that you've had on your to do list for six months probably will only take you a half an hour when you truly just focus on that notifications so curious in a corporate world. When you've got your email pulled up to. I know that a lot of work where we've got emails coming in constantly. And we swirl okay have to answer that email right away. What is your opinion or advice on if you're blocking out your time you're like i'm getting this. Yeah i'm on my second most important thing to do for the day but then you got your emails going. Do you just shut your email down. Do you just not respond. Like what's your view on that. My favorite thing to talk about his email. I grew up in time before emails dates. If there's one thing in the world. I would get rid of it would be email. I know i know i'm okay. Okay with it. But here's the thing about email. I could go on for hours and hours on email. But i'll give you a few little nuggets. Email is almost always like ninety percent of the time somebody else's priority now so i don't check my email first thing in the morning because i don't care about somebody else's priorities. I care about my priorities. Because i need to get things done for my clients. I need when i worked in corporate america for my co workers. I needed to work on those things to be able to deliver. And then i would handle everybody else's priorities and i think the reality is is you can change the culture of a company and also yourself through email. People would email me when they were on break would email me get up from their desk. Walked past my office because the bathroom door was there and they'd say did you get my email is literally one minute from the time they such and the reality is that i would always just say. Yeah i guess. I don't know i'll get it when i check email at ten o'clock and so what happened is a culture changes that i would deal with email at ten o'clock. I figured out how many emails i had a day in. I can get through all my emails including everything. I needed to do for those emails. Like send baba's spreadsheet or whatever in about two hours a day. So when i chomped those two hours in the email what happened is people saw osho get to it and when she gets to it'll be done. Many people use their email to do list. And that's not the intent of email. Email is a communication tool. And so what happens is that becomes a to do list that becomes a black hole and so if we process email on a regular basis. You wouldn't need to be checking your email all the time because here's the reality. Most of it's not urgent. If it was urgent they'd figure out a way to find you. They call you text. You walk over to your office or something but typically not urgent emails in evolution. It you can't just change email overnight. It takes months definitely. And i totally agree with all that. It feels to me as though email. It's a way of communication at actually slows. Down communication and things are left unclear. And then you're all of a sudden you are stuck in a black hole where you're trying to respond and figure out what's going on and a lot of people that i know. That is the first thing of they take a day or two off. They come back and then they spend the entire morning trying to catch up on emails and they feel even further behind in so you may some really good points that i think we can all take from that and just that one little change probably make us feel a lot different. It's a let's talk about the end of the day. Our not starting your day off with email love it and then you said if i get it done and forty five minutes and i check on my computer and i'm done so i know there's a lot of us along with the emails leg while if i get done with. My view is great. Now i can get more stuff done. And that tends to lead us feeling burnt out and i know i've been struggling with that just with everything i have going on to not work myself for first thing in the morning i sit down at my computer and then working through lunch and then working until seven o'clock at night even though i'm around my kids i'm trying to watch tv at the same time and it just leaves me feeling exhausted. So how do you do that. You just walk way. You're like. I got my three things done. Speak to more on that as far as the importance of being able to walk away and not add extra stuff to the list. Yeah i think that goes back to the mentality of there will always be something on the list and you have to get really clear about what's important and one of the things that should be on your list if this is important to you is your family and i like to put in there. I have a daughter and i put. This may seem really calculating. But every week if i haven't connected with her then i know i have to do that and when i do connect with her she gets a hundred percent of my time. She doesn't get my time while. I'm on the phone texting or anything like that. Were just she gets my undevoted. My you know my totally devoted attention. And i think that's really important. Is that being able. The walkaway goes back to my goal of having freedom for my business. But i'm okay walking away. Because i accomplished a lot that day i accomplished by three most important things and i process my email possessed another time block. I have. I really don't have outstanding items at the end of the day that i haven't plans so if somebody wants a spreadsheet that's gonna take me a couple of hours. I've probably emailed them back saying. Hey we'll take a look at this on thursday. That person's happy. I have it on my calendar on thursday. It start talking my head. So i can walk away. But that's part of having a system. It doesn't start. You know you can't just do that in one day. You have to build your system around that. So having a system entropy being clear knowing what's important i know this interview with you is coming at perfect time just last week just struggling with. I don't feel present. When i'm around my daughter and i have had such mom yeltsin the last few days on. Like i gotta figure this out because it's not okay gotta be able to shut things down. Shut my computer. And she's trying to talk to me into mike. Exactly what you are saying and it really just getting clear on it locking out that time knowing that this because there are things that are important and you need to put your attention to that. So i know. I've got so words than i think. Go with your business talking about self management not time management getting clear being intentional. I'd love to ns interview. On what three words best describe you and what you do with your business create questions. If i could take some liberty and maybe do a hyphenated word. I would state goal crusher. Because it's really important. To have those goals at the forefront intentional ineffective so goal crusher intentional effective crusher intentional ineffective. I ain't no perfect. So i just want to give you a big. Thank you for doing this interview. I have learned a lot. I feel like i can just use it today. As soon as we can offer those. I know i can use some of the tips that you gave and so could you tell. Our listeners have reach you and connect with you. If they want more information or wanna work with you earth thing really a pleasure talking with you too lauren. I always love connecting with people. Just hoping them out you can find me on all the social. I like to keep it easy. It's sarah mayor dot com for my website and on social serra mayor consulting. I do have a facebook group. If you're interested it's called old goal crusher so bold gold crushers and we talk about crushing our goals and all the things that get in the way and you could also connect with me through the facebook group. I'll post about my online courses. That i have going on where i help. People really set those goals and make sure that they are going to achieve a lot of people set new year's resolutions and only seven percent actually accomplish them. So i hope people says the old woman really said that system into their life so that at the end of the year they don't say well. I responded to ten thousand emails while we'll be sure to put all of your contact information on post for this episode when this areas so that people can find you through my website as well so again thank you. Thank you so much. Sarah for joining the creating strength podcast. We're so happy to have you. What's up guys lauren. Here just wanted to say thank you so much for listening to another episode of the creating strength. Podcast go ahead and hit. Subscribe if you like what you're hearing and leave us a review. I would love to hear from you. And if you want more information tips tools to incorporate your life on fitness neutralization business and away to check out my favorites companies. I actually use head on over to aloha dash beautiful dot com and check out all the extra information. 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#23 - Generations in Astrology with Tareck Ghoneim

Bridging Realities: An Accessible Astrology Podcast

1:13:45 hr | 1 year ago

#23 - Generations in Astrology with Tareck Ghoneim

"It's a Saturday night in Denver. Colorado the Sun has set. It is cold outside. But there's fun things to do because it's Saturday night but we'll have I chosen to do instead because I'm a super dork. And a super geek is to sit on a microphone in a podcast studio to talk about astrology with my lovely mate partner who sits across the way from me right now looking lovingly into my eyes as we prepare to take you all down the rabbit hole of astrology. This is Eugenia Crock. Welcome to accessible. Astrology will be back to talk to myself and the handsome man here. Crosser me Tara. Thank you stay tuned. Hello baby welcome welcome. Hey let's not forget. We're doing things after this talk as well outweigh. Oh we are doing things after this. Not just geeking out just geology. Even though we very well we'll be getting out dancing shoes on. That's right. We're going dancing tonight. Yes we gotta keep the flow going. Absolutely yeah we can sit in front of a computer screen. We can work all day. We could be Stagnate you know in one place and then you gotTa Move Sagittarius. Well I wouldn't say just to specifically such a terrace. I got it like some people fixed rooted to the ground to move as much furner. Nothing wrong especially in these capricorn. Time easy to get stuck isolated fixed or you know in concrete jungle if you want to call it that even in the woods one can get a little bit fixed and hermit like in the woods. Yes do you like that. I think we need to explain the. Let's right we target. I have been chilling in the cabin in Colorado and the mountains of Colorado Because I'm a very fixed sign person and I enjoy just doing nothing and stain lazy in my house and we decided to watch the show. Netflix series. I just need to say that you helped him working very hard and that selects. Remember that yes that's true that's true. We do all need to relax from time to time and relax in the sense of where we get rest by because we work all the time and we allow time to rest and how we're going to be of service. That's true right but we watched the documentary about. Oh show called wild wild country. Yes this is my second round with your first but everything the guy says yes. I thought it was even funnier when we washed jungle book. Yeah Yeah Yeah. He's the is and he was. Indiana's all yeah. Yeah which is interesting. I wonder if Osho got his inspiration from jingle book. Jungle Book we'll because that came out in the sixties and he didn't get well known until the seventies so maybe he watched it and he's wanted to take the accent of well. I don't know it's a weird one. It was a very weird documentary. Actually Yeah what did you? What are some of your thoughts thinking on Well I thought the could empathize with Osho. You could also see the sycophants the people who want to believe in something obviously the time and a place escapism and the idea of community like we talked about assuming the beach this Utopian idea and then he obviously was the figurehead. He was the master wasn't he was the The the Colt was was created around him right even though he hardly said anything which I thought was fascinating. Yeah the people around him. Who was the intoxicated by his energy by spirit by maybe an illusion that they were buying into having said that he obviously had some gifts and skills that were worthwhile to allow people. But we didn't see all of the truth. Did we documentaries? You told me about. There's a lot more of the stuff that was going on. Yeah it was so cool documentary to just get you thinkin and it's just wintertime right so there's going to be regardless everyone kind of wants to sit in and watch some movies right now and we've been doing that but as you politically pointed out that when it's wintertime maybe perhaps the window to him of humanity which we could arguably say we're in sometimes we have to remember to move and move the energy and I know that because you see things from galactic perspective you actually know that by moving the energy in your body you're moving energy collectively right like there's something about it that is actually not just beneficial to us but to everybody if we can move stagnant energy in our body and just like not in the documentary. They were working with con Delaney Right. These ideas eastern idea is like energy. Like if you're a child anew moving all the time you have a natural exuberance don't not troll energy you know we see our friends who have parents that kids and just nonstop right and as you get older you start to forget that. Oh Saturday yourself with very toxins. Various other things that we start to become stagnated and that's how obviously illness happens. Yeah so there's something missing if there is a time to rest time for winter. There's a time to conserve energy right. But there's also a need as well to move because obviously if you will crank fire in the winter we'd have to chop wood or prepare right and then we'd have to actually create fire to keep warm. That's very energetic and needed requirement for survival my hate and it's weird because there's no fireplace at the cabin right now. Yeah we'll be having having a few challenges. Having wake you know all sorts of life circumstances which test relationship the unforeseen things that are there to kind of create crisis really and could call out your honest thing or it could just be the winner of our time right but considering that we have a fire we still have heat. We're doing okay. Yeah it's a little greedy to be like I don't know fireplaces went are but we are very lucky and safe and yeah. That's a big thing. We've learned to focus on when these challenges have presented outside of our control. Yeah definitely I think I think. That's the voluble wise way in to move the moment if challenges present themselves and we can we can rather than react or go into freeze mode so firefly you know if we can manage all observe the or allow the and being the flow of it. Yeah we could actually find meaning in everything. Yeah I'm it creates a far more story like experience where we can reflect and find the solution. My problem is when people come into crisis difficulty and they freeze or firefly that creates trauma trauma and perpetuates a cycle potentially of of whatever drama that that part off remember it's Capricorn love cause and effect love comics of lessons. That come balint right now. Yeah Yeah we are just talking to someone and we're talking about how if we as individuals are taking responsibility for our unconscious reactions and behaviors. We just keep handing down generation after generation after generation and it is almost our moral imperative or duty to work through this shed and to work it out and with ourselves within partnership were most of our greatest internal battles present themselves and not just partnership. It's just intimate relationship. I know some of my partners are my friends who have like a very smooth relationship with their intimate partner have incredibly challenging relationships with their children right so it shows up somewhere always this ghost of past trauma from rem sisters and one of the other things we've watched since being together the last few weeks it sounds like we're just sitting around watching TV and to be honest. I have a couple days. I need it but you and I prefer only watched a documentary about World War Two. Yeah and that was for me. Pretty MIND BLINK BECAUSE I've avoided putting too much attention on all of that but just thinking about the trauma of World War. Two and eighty five million people who died how all of that lives inside of everyone. It doesn't really matter where you lived on the globe at that point. Eighty five million people dying in a very short span of time affected. Everyone and that was our grandparents generation. Right so we are. Some of us are only two generations removed from that war in that trauma lives in our ancestors all of us right and so the nonsense of World War Two and the the blasphemy of it in the useless motivations of it are inside of us. And how did that happen? How did humans get to the point where everyone was killing everybody right? Even the people who came in to save people had to kill people to save people right. It was just. It was a bloodbath. This was an early eighteen hundreds. This wasn't that long ago less than one hundred years ago. Yeah Yeah I think it's fascinating when you put it into perspective and obviously that's where a lot of fair which can be sold and coming cooperate in incorporations you though Yeah I agree. It's like the collective consciousness or the attachment to let's say World War. Obviously the Iran thing happened in the last couple of weeks Which sets a precedent again for certain degree of fear in Australia? The idea of environmental change and how that could affect someone or country or consciousness. Because obviously there's been a lot of people aware of that because of the nature of technology you know global communication like if you think of something like September the eleventh because of the nature of how that was presented in the world Global Communication could also affected people very traumatically. Now obviously when you put it into context with World War Two where the whole world was at war. You can think that we've become a bit more sophisticated and then upbringing. That's the idea of with the spiral so of idea of evolution. You know what could have been collectively traumatic. Let's say for example not not totally accurate but let's say September eleventh to World War Two. There's no way you could compare that to look at one thousand nine hundred twenty nine hundred sixty two stock market crash to the two thousand eight stock market crash and these like spirals repeating cycles that keep happening. That's why we study astrology right I to solve make sense of and if you look at World War Two and the energy of Iran Torres there is. Potentially that was. The same time wasn't executive the nineteen thirties. That's when you honestly tell us happened. Yeah but I think. He was primarily in Gemini during those during the war primarily. You're on us. Was Leo okay. So if you own trying to say is I don't want to muddy present moment conversation. I'm just trying to put into context if we were reflecting on history as like a little too late for me watching that World War. Two stuff was fascinating simply because it was in color. Yeah it was fascinating so technologies lick trade at different impression of the time made it more real made it way more real you know and then when you watch anything wow that was real and that was actually happening. Was You know obviously history so I can look at various reasons for that happening People could even say that the similarities between someone like Donald Trump or wherever? Let's saving Hitler but when you look at reality the environment I think environment become such an important part of the understanding of present moment awareness. I not by interfere or or cast aspersions because I don't think World War three is going to happen anytime soon because the context environment is not the same. Like for example. I don't WanNa stay faraway but the tree if assigned for example. That's not happening right now. Right and then he when he sees history knows that there's no way Germany would have had that sort of level of fitter all an an and desire for long just like Japan if it wasn't for the tree of say right so that doesn't exist now so people who are in living in Armageddon right now. Fear should really take a breath and thank you now. All things have pretty good. They are the AM. I mean that was the thing I kept thinking as as I don't say watch the full thing with you. But every time I looked at him like how can any of us be complaining about anything right now? We have airplanes that anyone can get on fly anywhere in the world. You can talk to anyone in the world you you know when someone does something wrong. It's it's revealed so quickly now because of technology you know there's less starving people in the world than ever in history. There's more access for more people than ever in history sadistically. Were doing really well actually and I think that this this precipice of always thinking we're on the verge of world war three right because that's been present my whole life not in the nineties. The Ninety S was won't some weird non anomaly of at least in America feeling like things were just like very safe and did well. The you know the ninety s was a very. I don't want to call it a peaceful time but felt easy the nineties in America. At least I don't know about in Britain but in the nine eleven columbine came in the nine eleven came a number of them. There's just been this like undertone of fear that this massive world war three is coming and you hear the millennial generation talk about it a lot. You hear it and Youtube and podcasts and things of that nature and regardless. If if it comes or doesn't come. It will never look the way it looked in world war. Two right yeah it would be. It would be some other kind of attack. You know for Joe or something or not but I don't think people will hit the ground running at each other with guns anymore. Oh no I mean if he said that so that degree. Yeah if you look at the Roman Empire. Okay Kahn or any empire that has grown and fallen You know the level of bloodshed and you know attack on humanity become civilized. Right you has over time spiral wise house and however wooden shouldn't also underestimate the nature of change right however. This is the real secret I believe. He's my personal opinion. Wise Wise One will hoping old just yet aside. So you're sad. You're just you're spiritually old and wise. Is that right possibly feel appreciate the compliment? While I'm trying to say is that you know where we put. Our attention is probably going to be the fundamental Game Changer Right. Because we're living in such a different world with the Internet information but also when technology becomes more accelerated as it is with machine learning oriented reality virtuality. We could be having an experience if you put goggles on right. For example right where you know the idea. Plato actually the allegory of the cave where he talks about how the people in the cave That that perception of reality was completely different to the actual world the world of foam. I don't know about this. Same in Plato's Republic tokes about The idea of what Israel you know the the the what is called is if you see what I mean. So he creates. What's the Allegri of the cave? So for example if people living in the virtual world how glosses aw contact lenses potent than which create a different world from birth? And that's all the no right. Didn't that will happen. I'm not saying that will happen. I'm saying at this particular moment in time. Attention becomes very very important aspect of what will unfold so where we put our attention exactly. You know it's such a good point so the emergence the unfolding this particular time right. Obviously we could get really into this. Could know you and I talked about a lot with Pluto. Lieber the five percent level. I guess maybe I could write something about some point. But why believe about this particular time? Why believe Artie so important? And when the targeted in Denver remember talking about the idea of the artist might for example in a virtual world so for example those people with the content is on right and they have choice within the virtual world right on the go into a library like an infinite library. What would they choose? I think is a philosophical question is interesting because if they are is they're in the library right so right now they are that we give into the world call vibration you call it frequency. Podcast podcast audio video. Whatever it is right now. That's art right now in context. Let's say when Van God who's creating his art piece. He wasn't valued at the time the time he was right. So what I'm getting at is the choice and attention becomes the game change of the emergence of what will come. I believe in the future. I'm loving that. So so. For example if it becomes more technology technologically based so machine learning and all these various things so that takes over the role of the humans right because machine leading can do that a million times quicker than a Hebron right so you can access ally read infinite library in which less speed right. What would you choose? You See Right. And that's what difference human from a computer you know. Yeah and I think that what you're getting at to this piece of choice right. Where do we choose to focus our energy attention exactly especially when it comes to astrology? I just did a recorded a podcast. About how the the last six weeks. The astrology of the last six weeks was so hyped up for such a long time so for the last ten years I've heard Like fairly doom and gloom predictions about December and January of twenty twenty two thousand eighteen. Or whatever and it was very exaggerated what could happen at this time astrologically. And that's what people are focusing on and they were choosing the focus on that. I didn't hear a lot of people. Choosing the focus on the benefit maybe necessarily a Saturn employed. I shouldn't say here. People are did hear people because it wasn't listening to people talk about it so much but the point is is how we chose to go into that transit to focus on the possible outcome of that transit could have easily possibly shaped the way we saw experienced. The last six weeks Astra logically or month or two months. Astrologically raise up early going into a clip season fearful. And that's what we're choosing to see and silver choosing certain news stories to follow and certain people to follow who are exaggerating in a negative way than that might have an impact on the actual outcome. That's kind of what you're saying. Yeah Yeah I mean I think I think I think the thing is astrology. Is that nobody knows exactly what's going to happen. People could become aware of cycles. That's what makes astrology interesting or predictive. To a certain extent right because astronomically we know when Mars and Venus are GonNa Retrograde or we can we can work those things out mathematically. So if we're looking in the future we're looking at the astronomy however the interpretation with the environment with the actual reality of the present moment. Nobody's actually going to know until it's happened. Yeah of course however I also I it comes down to integrity so we're looking at capricorn right now. Right east the integrity of the individuals who are let's say proliferating said let's say for example astrology astrological information about these conjunctions is their integrity which will be determined so for example if somebody is talking about certain very important conjunction which I mean. We went to the park. Yeah we had our own ceremony. Yeah which is very much like self cupper Kony's cardinal earth. We chose to take that moment to enjoy or experienced that particular transit right Because we were aware of it. Yeah you know we. We knew about right now the might be some people who have an intention and their integrity is to serve which is what strategies all about really people who have the integrity to use. Astrology has to be for a higher purpose. Yeah right so. Therefore if people using it. Alexei Selfish Moses. Right whether he's egotistical or whether it's for sales then that people who may be disappointed Adolf how their expectations dashed because the modernizing it right and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with awe because all information voluble right if people choose to monetize or spend money on these things then there's value in it right and that's why people who gave you know let's say subscription stir for Give charitably in a worthwhile because the information is valid. But it's the why it comes down to intention right it comes down to integrity. Yeah moment you know of higher purpose really might because this is the thing which I understand because the twenty twelfth thing as well look people high tailed right. It totally became Weichel a Hollywood perspective. Yeah okay so Hollywood actually commodities that through doom and gloom because his fear cells right but the actual reality of it was nothing of the soul right so people were buying into the idea of two thousand twelve and it didn't happen how they thought may well we was dramatized. Hollywood right realistic. And then they went always all rubbish twenty twelve. I think anybody who falls astronomy. He actually had this done with the energy of these things right. Recognize the significance of toilet. Twelve right yeah so this conjunction is also significant definitely and people who can feel because it was really weird. Komo unless we strive with each other was super weird. Wasn't it those two weeks of January? We was weird. It was weird. Fortunately however it panned out for us too. We wouldn't have very safe environment if we we have a few challenges. Right as I'm show a lot of people have had right. However in the context of the of maybe the imagination the fair or the exaggeration. It was pretty chilled. Yeah that might be the case for everyone right so all. I'm trying to say is that I believe that talking about these things. I co creation. May Well be diverting calamity right but the thing is when things don't happen people often think it's all rubbish right. Yeah it's so. It's so interesting so I gave a talk actually on. Let's see. What Day was that? So the actual weekend it was the twelfth that the conjunction happened on and it was the tenth that the eclipse happen and I gave a talk on the eleven so sandwich right in the middle of it all and I felt out all of these participants at this talk who knew. Virtually nothing about astrology night before I said anything. I said on a scale of one to ten. What is it been like for you since Christmas so this was from Christmas Day until the tenth of the eleventh of Gin and this was people who knew nothing about astrology and I said I want to see a ten that it was the most challenging few weeks of your life and zero of everything was just as as was there's no effect at all so challenging tensor and it was all over the boards. Some people have the best Christmas ever and it was one of the best Christmases they've ever had one of the best holiday seasons. They've ever had their feeling really good. Some people were having serious serious challenge right so as from a scientific perspective looking at astrology using a group of people who are not influenced by what astrologers are telling them how are they responding to this energy and that's like a really fascinated to look at that and love polling people outside of this community to see if it's real so are we creating our reality by buying into astrology and say no will this events about to happen and therefore I'm GonNa feel expert wires away or Is it is it. 'cause Asian or correlation right to this is like an essay question for example to the stars impel right compel totally right right and so talking to them. The one thing I did notice though as everyone did have different holiday. That was one thing. Everyone seemed to have was a holiday season. That was different so a lot of people said this holiday was different because we didn't we chose not to buy a bunch of presents. We chose not to one woman said the resists movement on social media of by your children one thing they need one thing they want and one thing they can read so you know three presents and apparently this was like this huge thing on social media and so this eclipse season and cancer and Capricorn said something was going to shift and change around home family and work. And maybe that's what it was was people being like. Do we really need to spend this much money at Christmas? Time and on wrapping paper and things of that nature. Do we want to redefine what this holiday means in? Everybody seemed to have that kind of experience where the holidays were different than normally. They were as typical for a lot of people. So maybe that's all it was you know but again you know it's but it's where where do we choose to focus? Yes so an intention right. So if we're listening to astrologers who are leaning towards the more challenging elements of astrology and their saying hey this is gonna be a really hard in deep deep crazy week it probably will be if W- that's what we're choosing to focus attention that information or even like news anchors or whoever were listening to or are we focusing on this. Big Transit is coming up. It's just the end of a cycle in the beginning of another let's recognize. We're in a transitional moment in history and be in the moment of transition and and you know do nothing about it. You know whatever it's but it is our thoughts and our feelings shape our reality and I say this. All the time on the PODCAST. I think this year this changing transition moment. That is kind of like the juice you know that. That really is the kind of the play right because the researcher known right the reason why it's so difficult for people to feel certain right now is simply because this like fake news. People don't trust parliament or government. Any more people feel this choice to make a difference. So what do you do you know what I mean like? What is what the answer was the choice you know. How do we spend our time right? Now this confusion or throwing in the towel like I might as well just detached from society because it doesn't make any sense all the soup of unknown uncertainty quoque. Meyer of like of change. That seems to be happening right now. County quite disconcerting. Right under the same time. It could be quite empowering if you know what why are you here right so I think this like fog all this kind of whatever. Attachment people are focusing. Their attention on is going to be the measure of this year. You know like you know how what have you been doing for for a certain period of your life and what you're doing now it counts because for example. If there's no way out from your life for example somebody is married to in a relationship that Wanna be there in the job or whatever it that choosing to adhere to. If by the end of the year they've worked that out so let's say they want to stay in the marriage so they are working through the differences they can create a new relationship. Yeah Oh they Take stunts their job. They're actually saying no. This is what I need right now. These are my needs and wants Kennywood here to the right and if not then they leave and find something else you see what I mean right so the measure of this year. The sort of like the rigidity of this year the way that we also have liked trapped in a sense. This year is also The the movement with security. Isn't there in Capcom right. So what what what? I'm really trying to get out if living in an uncertain world. But you have another thyself attitude. You can use the world to formula. I what it is that you here today. Yeah and there's never been about a year for if yes may right right. Basically attention is is in fair right. If if the attention is in a car do anything about right. Ill behalf that person to to to create this year. You know there's never been a bad time to create well and so that is like exactly. Why did the toolbox like the twenty twenty toolbox because I I had a sense that there was more fear being put out about this year than potential. That was a sense that I had. I don't really follow astrologers this is from when I used to back in the day and I had a sense about it and I could get little snippets and I was recognizing that there. There's a lot of doom and gloom placed on this year and I thought fuck that like totally fuck that. What if we actually used astrology and understood the energetics of it from the perspective of I understand that Spring is coming? Select me prepare the garden. I don't know exactly what spring is going to give me or present to me but I know I need to prepare my garden for summer if we go into astrology this year especially just being aware of the astrology in choosing to focus on how we can create something incredibly dynamic and potent and beautiful and the potential of a building and creating soil that is so full of integrity and honesty and authenticity for the generations to come. Because we can't be selfish about this. This isn't really about US right. This is about creating nurturing sustainable environment for generations to come preparing them for the challenges of transits that we see possibly in the far off future hundreds of years down the road even looking at the spiral of humanity. What was the consciousness of World War? Two cannot consciousness for your rise again possibly. So how do we mitigate that? Now this is this opportunity in terms of I think the soil from the perspective of Saturn and Pluto to re lay the foundation of the structure of humanity right and to actually create a foundation rooted in all that that it is that we've learned again rollers. Who was a minute ago a minute ago and the work that people have done? Since then in terms of personal development personal healing the the Pluto virgos have really been the instigators of that and. I'm incredibly grateful for the work that they've given to the world in terms of learning health and healing and bringing acupuncture and meditation and products like that to the consciousness in the West. And all of that information that has come from the east into the West and that integrative Healthcare Model I think has again mitigated cataclysmic events. That could have happened. And so recognizing that the actual work that we do as individuals has a a keep using these whereas cataclysmic event Catez cosmic effect on generations. To come is has to be the intention so we are Having children and we are still carrying deep ancestral trauma inside of us. And we're choosing to put that aside for fear of lack or for fear of I can't afford it or whatever that might be or it's not a high enough value because I need to do these. Make sure I have enough to have this very nice looking car instead of investing that money in our own. Well being that's taking away the potential of the seeds of a higher consciousness which could be birth and just putting it from a very individual perspective as well. You know if if one does tend to their healing. Let's say North Modine cancer because the too fixated on Capricorn. Let's say industry working things like that. Then they'll get ill right and you'll die just say and you know he's like is important to be working this year but if one hasn't attended to self care then what what good is it. Yeah and people constantly miss the point on that because of the school system and various of the ways in education industrial revolution will be a World War One World War. Two they will they. Wolves relate to industry right. That's because it was new technology in terms of Industry. Time so cars you know he's funny 'cause like you know if Japan bombed Pearl Harbor that America would not come into the war right right and you know America warning every single regard because of the Second World War simply because thank God they were there you know with the manpower to defeat you know with hindsight was a hideous you know tyranny which again we talked policy. We you know the the Leo stuff but at the same time you know America Prophet hugely financially. Because they were providing arms to Russia he will buying it in droves likewise without all the weapons. There's no way per in could have ever what they could've done in Germany so it's like you know we'll we'll to you know create. America really American came into the will because of it but the I will were as well really was a war of industry. It was all based on industry right. You know and suddenly like we've got these really amazing weapons that we can just use on each other and there was just psychotic you know he was a very patriarchal time. But what is fascinating bringing into the now this year? I believe in the turnaround relate to what you're saying basically there's no escaping technology just like back then you couldn't escape the technology however The sophistication that the spiral thing right where we are now. I had about the soil thing in applying these seeds might because he's a thirty eight year cycle everything the whole lot. Dave is pleats sat in conjunction right as even small Aquarium Times. They think of technology and things like that. Then what happens now? He's like he's like the changeover moment. Isn't that right? The Internet's getting more mature. Technology will become more integrated. Are you going to be? One of those people sat on account with those ice virtual reality contact lenses when you boil them. Are you going to be in a spaceship flying somewhere else? He's like now has never been a better time to know that I self now has never been a better time to get over yourself especially for our ages. Thirty five to forty eight. It's never been a better time for for that age group to get over them. Get over themselves start. Relying on the kids are going to do it. Because the millennials yeah the very Jalan aid and please terriers very spirited and you know this younger generation in to technology however this Middleton integration which is our age group right. Yeah Genia and it's just the art that will be left in the library. If we're not seeing if we're not giving something to the world universite right now right then it will be lost right. He'll never be accessed right. We've denied the choice of a future offspring shoes and we're and we quite literally the last generation who who lived life without technology. Yeah right so we have to. Also we have a kind of moral obligation to remind. Children had actually connect with each other precisely actually as humans. And we have to learn how to do that actually I so in our partnerships and our relationships our children and our relationships with our friends our colleagues coworkers. It is the job of the poodle libra to figure out how to do relationship. That is our job like we have to figure out. I have a choice and I choose to be with you so because I'm choosing that I'm not obligated to be with. You haven't been forced into marriage with you or anything. This is my choice when we when we come up against each other in our internal war my war versus your war had a. We actually win the battle right. Had A way to win the battle with each other and that's actually teaching our children how to do that. Globally or I'll lay down the foundations of diplomacy which is after the war right right. Yeah Yeah and I think what you're saying about. Our generation could get lost in the archives. Because we were not as technology technologically driven or understanding of technology. I think the other thing. That's really challenging about the poodle. Leaper generation is. I think there is a an thinking about it. Also from the perspective of were only two generations removed from World War Two. There is a paranoia that if we stand up against tyranny or if we stand up against something we see that is going wrong in the consciousness. We'll get persecuted or we'll get enslaved or something like that could could happen because it just happened. Less than one hundred years ago writes a group of people had a religious affiliation and just were swept up and thrown into these camps right and not just religiously but there was people from because of their nationality got pulpit entities camps. And and that's just the people in the actual concentration camps but we're not everybody else who got bombed or eighty five million people right and so I think there is an actual fear be with the poodle lieber generation about seeing something because we're not that far removed from our grandparents experienced that that in our parents were born out of that consciousness however if we see that there is a tyrannical are evangelical or dangerous dogmatic idea that is sweeping the consciousness for us to say nothing is as can be as harmful as saying something. Yeah Yeah I think I'm up and not from a place of war. I think it's been necessary to have up. Balans libra. Yeah I've always likened it to apathy. Yeah willful ignorance. This entitlement thing comes along because if you if you think of it in context from World War. Two to the baby boomers might then to. You know Satellite Certain degree of change with Pluto. Virgos But then also why always like into my generation was the east be yuppies yepes you know like so. I if we if we were. Thatches children living in the UK. Children Reaganite wherever. That's so fascinating. Credit became a really major feature of that time right so it wasn't you gotta go without you. Know the generation of like a job for life right and then too. You can have your own home then. You could actually be back an an entrepreneur. You can get credit. Basically you know so all these sorts of ideas when we were growing up was like all we can have it just as much as say the baby boomer generation. You probably thought well. We're grateful that we're alive. You know sixties. Yeah and it's like it's all new. Let's go get it because they were probably more in the salt of Maelstrom fear. Nice right. He's like let's go out and Canada but then there's apathy of libra which can be like well the co-dependency thing and don't get too much. It's not right now but then it becomes a case of well. We've got to do better than our parents. Because that's what we've been told today but then now we're in a situation where hung on. This is all bullshit. Why Botha Right? Because it's never been better. He's never been better time to to make money to do things and not post whereas this apathy coming from because we're thinking well Sawday. I'd rather just be sound very recently right way. You know really lovely time with some friends and we were talking about this way and it's like so much nicer just to be in nature. Forget the the technology right right right but then the younger generations are coming through. Think flipping active. And if I was if I was a kid right now I could go on all these sites and meet people. That's been having these plead size terrace. That's exactly what they're gonNA do. You know however if there's no role models right if there's not the quality and that's really what it comes down to because quantity get website. Get this get that credit thinking. Throw it all away. Who Cares bankrate Blah Blah Blah? Right right but we're not. We're not like that. We think we see value in things. If you didn't have an old could just access credit here in that we could just go bankrupt and not think anything could just swipe less white right elbow. We won't at all where a guy who you know. We didn't think like that right. So where where generation. Who thinks much more about if I'm doing this if I'm being seen on technology there's got to be some reason for his quality and that's exactly what the Internet needs right now. Right right got you know what's so funny. I don't really spend that much time considering how that that. Because I'm on the cusp of Reaganomics and Thatcher. Right Med three. So I was born into credit in fact I feel like I was sold into it. So that's what makes you different. Were part of the same generation. But you guys didn't have credit as much as I did but I'm still put a libra but I haven't really thought about that. Impact HUGELY TO BE HONEST. About how the apathy or the entitlement of one generation to the other has a lot to do with credit. I never put together like you can't ever really fall because there's a credit card to catch you. That's so fascinating I never thought about that. And even even more so in two thousand eight wouldn't really the whole. The West should have gone bankrupt. We bailed out which would have been like nineteen twenty nine. That didn't happen. Did it happen. And it was a bail out. Yeah right and then they just started printing more paper. Well I mean hasn't happened yet but if you think about this is what the RUB hookers accuweather in various of the People. Talk about this stuff right now you know. Yeah he's never be. The goal sunded is so far removed from reality now. Right governments are just printing money. Everybody is just spending a right as terrifying in that regard and like you know back in the old days you know. Rome. What they do is before Amish Essay. What they used to they used to say. Just pray the press the reset button but Rome decided not to do that. Who's like no you our money? We're GONNA take harvey because they had far greater salts and weaponry than anybody else. He's never stopped since the acquisition the conquering manipulation. Right away we are now so that was the age of aries too. I think I have to look at that. All I'm trying to do is that was. That was a squirrel moment. You might be. I'll have to look at that. You know to be only someone should I say is that we are where we are right now and it's not so bad it's not so bad however the could always be cut to listen. We talked about this at this time of year doing sweetheart. Yeah we talked about like astroid combs wherever Blah Blah Blah. Feeling Graham Hancock in all these various things Joe Rogan. However if that happens is going to happen. Isn't it right so looking at the context of reality right now? How can the economic system continue with what is happening currently right without a war? Especially because going back to the business of will. Yeah walk a lot of money. Yeah Australia. You know showed a lot of humanity. The Golden Globes. A things worth mention because that really showed the fickleness of what? I suppo- supposedly role models. Which when you someone on. Instagram is creating far more influence. Can we talk about that? The Golden Globes sure second year. So this is it. Sounds like all we've been doing is watching. Tv for a month or something and we have watched a fair amount of it. But we've done things but we decided to watch the Golden Globes reluctant well It was like a it was like watching a torture. Yeah it was addictive could pull interest. And that's what Hollywood is is kind of like crack right and I watch movies with pretty people just because I watched movies with pretty people but yeah the self flagellating of it. Right like the flagellating. That's the wrong word. That's right. Watch elation cells. That's like whipping yourself now. So that's not the right where these self just the fact that they thought they were such a big deal. And it's like you're just actors you're just actor device really put into exactly and and it's true because you know right now. I've been recording this live on instagram for example. Just to see what that's like to do and I don't think I would probably look good in this but I have a little audience watching me. She's very little ottis. So give me a fucking award and like no like who cares we. We each have now voice. We each have every single human has thanks. Maybe you look great to. We're going to go dancing. But we each have a voice now and we all have a when I say all. I don't want to say you know. There's lots of nations that don't have the same access to technology as we do you. Currently I'm sure they will cryptocurrency and so on but we each get to become our own actor. Our show is relevant. Interesting information could be watching a movie right now or watching. Us talk about astrology. Do you know what I mean. Like fifteen minutes of fame. It was the talk about did you. It was all about yeah. You know it's like we are living in time and Ricky. Jay said I thought was amazing and he just said Netflix warned. Thought that was brilliant. Yeah it's just true isn't it? How come you know what was Hollywood? Oh it was so controlled and you know you had to be said person to get in there and obviously we seeing the horror of Hollywood. You know she's always in the lack of integrity you know Not being exposed and then something like net flicks steamrolls and yet How can you possibly compare the institution those people in the same way when someone who let's say I don't know her device let girl who is just playing with bananas and she got like something like millions and millions of views? It's crazy that you could say is more powerful than detailing. Then this Hollywood thing yeah exactly. It's it's done it's Kinda done I mean and how many of us actually want to sit around and watch a bunch of You know very wealth. You know they're actors yes but people are getting paid a lot of money to to to act which is a valuable thing of course soap literally. Oh by the way But now you can go on Youtube and learn something. That's going to help your life. You know not to say that movies have lost their value. Movie still have a place in our very valuable to escape into fantasy in whatever to like just under a different story in different story line but now we if we WANNA learn astrology. WoN'T GO SEAN. And Watch someone on Youtube if we WANNA learn Even learning how to drywall the walls in the house right to plaster and Drywall them with a certain furnace on Youtube. And so I get youtube suggestions on drywall. Now right so we can take this. Technology can build the life. We actually really desire and we have the access to do that. And then give our service to humanity via these podcasts and whatnot and talking about it'll dodgy and comes back to attention and choice again absolutely. Yeah and a lot of people still fixing the old world. Obviously that's what they know and believe and they think Oh. Yeah you know like the kids are GonNa but the kids are going to learn all this stuff forever. The kids are going to do this. But you know that going to steamroll in their own way and Heath Evans role models if they haven't the quality on the Internet if they haven't experienced people espousing expressing their story that could be detrimental for the future. Totally I think that the Pluto Capricorn babies who have a lot of the libra parents. I think those parents a lot of ways are like you guys will figure it out. You know. Take a dangerous it's dangerous. It's dangerous without like without the that role model and also just being aware of the strategy coming up for them. You know where we're heading in the in again. Hundreds of years being aware of larger cycles and again we did a lot of looking into this world to thing and I don't WanNa get into what we looked at him. What we talked about but a similar consciousness will be a merging with Putin to Aquarius. And so again. How do we recognize that? Our responsibility is to guide the future generations by learning through relationship about the self right and that is the poodle. Lever will use the balance right the balance of myself on the other. Yeah thus lieber right right and I and we haven't had that for arguably ever because we've never had birth control before right so there's been an imbalance between the sexes because one of the the members of these two sexes. If if they got pregnant they were responsible for that life forever while the other party could just leave right so there was an imbalance of energy just clearly because of that but with birth control. There's now choice of your partner. And that is a massive leap in consciousness change in consciousness this so many factors to that because we really deep in the rabbit hole. You know seriously we could. We could look at so many factors religion. But what do you want to relate to is the Pluto and Aquarius Generation Right? I'M WHY is important? Yeah go ahead. So as you quite rightly say a lot of let's say looking at people who've who have kids mid-thirties to mid forties. That kind of age spun. Wh where the age group that new a will before the Internet right and we grew up in a credit crunch. If you're living in the west that is but everybody was affected too that to a certain extent because obviously the west warm in the Cold War fell and communism fell and all that so if that was the nature of Self interest moving forward and all that and then technology was the byproducts of that which we are living at revolution at a not create the Internet. And then we are the generation. All the kids who on from that time knew about the Internet Nouveau ipods. Knew about all that stuff right as technology becomes more matured right an integrated. So let's say for example you wake up in your your born rather than getting a birth certificate you get a contact lens you know fascinating so this Pluto and Aquarius ration- that coming in. We just want to just give a timeline. P children who born from twenty twenty four homewards and if you steady evolution wrist holiday Pluto becomes quite significant incensed. That has a theme. You know we have like a sole purpose in a theme. Basically that's that's the idea of the obviously. Pluto is incorporated in all different forms of astrology. But just a may not specific so as an idea platoon Aquarius Aquarius being more technologically minded could potentially more scientific cold all those sorts of things. Right if they're thinking in that way they say Geometry and science and all these things scientific experiments Blah Blah Blah right. If they don't have the again in the library a section in the library Which talks about hope because right now. We don't know what's going to happen and we never will. I mean that seriously in the convergence of technology into the end of the Patriots. Act these these particular moment of time is such a convergence or a changing time right. We never know what will happen. Eugenie I get that but we can't deny that technology is accelerating becoming more adopted right. The old world of mail is now also patriarch is changing right. So if if if the kids who bull and can't access in the library this time because people he mature who actually have stories people who actually could offer a lot of a lot of worth right now. They themselves I've being ignorant or not doing of being lazy not doing the work. I getting out there things worthwhile because you think the rains significant that could be a detriment that generation right because when they need to access the timeline right to get inspiration right to do scientifically right. They have the pulse of that feeling. Hugh h then okay. Let's exterminate these. Look I mean that's quite a crazy thing to say? Think about these films like Terminator and stuff and you get soluble. That could do everything for you. And you have more in common with that person because your elders didn't do anything right or you don't have to access right so for example we went and see. I didn't my yes in Denver was amazing. Wasn't it? Surely that guy was balling. Yeah busted his ass Craig. Melissa magazine A- He knew he liked. He liked nature like painting now. Fortunately we could see though right that huge value right it did. It was amazing but soon. Let's say you're thinking technologies where it's out. Forget all this stuff. Yeah if they didn't make the F. O. Could have access to that right the missing something. Right right yeah. No I'm very inspired by these points that you are bringing up For sure yeah. It is like one of the things I've been having to say to clients and I've always been saying to clients for a long time. It's not about you. This isn't when you go home at night and you say I should have said this and I shouldn't have said that I should have said this is not about that because that's not actually where people's focus as when they go to bed at night they're mostly going home and thinking. I should've said this. I should have said that I should've worn this. I should have warned that right. No one really gives a shit no one shed right so if we're if were afraid to be embarrassed about who we are and we don't. WanNa put ourselves out there for that reason or if we're if we're if we're selfishly keeping it to ourselves and the Sunday night we have to offer will actually serve humanity in a very valuable way. But we're too afraid of what people will say or they'll we're act or how. The judge is literally a disservice to humanity it leading our own egotistical fears of judgment and like who gives a shit your empathize. I know you. Syria saw honey. I know Ken. I'm I'm a rare bird where I can just put myself out. I don't really care because I'm I know I'm sorry. Humanity is the intention. I'm not I'm not in any other way. I used to do the same. Actually you know. Put loads of information out there and then. I became a little bit. Maybe cautious all thinking. Am I being controlled hair? Am I doing the right thing? But Jonathan Scorpio Cairo. Everyone born in the seventies and early eighties show. But I hear what you're saying. Yeah it's it's it's it's almost selfish to not recognize that piece right and so ensuring that we as individuals are have the intention to serve humanity the direction of where we go should become relatively clear And Danielle Pulgar. My previous co host and close friend and colleague told me once and she says she said boss told her this. I don't know who told her but Decisions are easy when values are clear. Yeah and I love that and I keep I keep wind of it. But I'm recognizing also that the time voicing hoagie but we're really it's been fun to just talk like we talk talk all day long every day. This is no different. I just WanNa say just this last point than before we go sure I would. You need to go down. Cine believe it. Yeah we gotta get out of our heads into our hearts into our feet are feet embodies each like capricorn. The CAN BE LAZINESS. That could be a depressive. Nece the cumby feeling of being confined constricted however there is absolutely no excuse for anyone really appreciates to a Western audience here but most most Western people have the access into that they can get computer phone so really anybody can say something to somebody right now and everybody who is mature experience has got something to offer right now. People might not think that's valuable value right. Yeah people might not think is valuable to To say something to offer something especially on the technology because they might think. I'm a Luddite. I can't do this right. I just people to get over themselves. And and I'm I'm is like for you know because I I I'd rather be chilling out in the mountains or and I'd rather just be reading a book no and I do my fair. Share Service Right. Eugenia United Speaking of people maybe not in the limelight. I just urge people to just to be conscious that there is consequences to this laziness apathy and things like that because the may well be somebody somewhere who get right your uniqueness you know your individually your experience somebody my actually. That's exactly what they're looking for. Yeah because everything can be documented now libraries. If turn at some point down the line somebody might just access that information and all the difference right. God I love that idea. I just think this super important especially this year because there is only a certain amount of time the sound the gun right so at some point in the technology will increase and the opportunity will be gone right so I just employ people to just think about if just woman linked in post one in their entire lives. If he's worn youtube post in their entire lives right just offer that to the generations to come. Yeah it's not about us. It's not about again when I say to my clients over and over again is it's not about you. It's about us. I say that I have to say that to clients all the time. It's not about you. It's about us. It's like somebody who's a musician example. Yeah might have been blessed in the Bulls for twenty years right. They might think how will I'm too old now right but they might have a song that just needs to be heard you know. Yeah I think county heard the moment. It's a miracle really kind of living in the most awesome time and humanity ever. Yeah so if we're if we're Yes there are challenges. Yes there are difficult. Bits of the planet right now. Yes there are things to be afraid to but where we choose to see this moment in history is entirely up toss as individuals and Choosing to see how lucky we are and how abundant we are. I mean again. Eighty six million people. The Hide Mrs psychotic thing. Eighty six million. This not happening now. It's just not not eighty-six Lor dying. Yeah obviously it's a lot more people in the world. Now it's a lot more people in the world. Imagine how many more there would have been had. Those people not have died. There's a lot of things but we are living in a much. More gracious an opportunistic time than I think. We tend to focus on so I just employ people okay. Let's let's see what you have to say. Sage man so sweet like t minus three minutes. Okay cool all I will say. Is that if you have something to say? And you have a gift and ability that exists within you and people could get value from it. It might be bigger than you think. Okay in the in the echelons of time. And if that encouraged anyone because anyone can lend about facebook ads every aliso technology can get website and all that kind of stuff just by doing it might be more beneficial than you think because if you saw home a you know expressing its ability. She might go crazy. Yeah Go Mad. So that's all say okay. Lovely well I think that's a good place to start I I did an experiment with this episode where I decided to put it on instagram. Live since I have to. Followers hasn't been a giant crowd nine a few more than two hours. But you know. I don't have a ton of followers on instagram. But I think this is something I might start doing is doing why. Yeah I might start recording these live For for members of the community. And I think that do a close friends group in instagram. And maybe start doing live or doing live to the all the followers on instagram. Either way if you are watching on instagram right now low for those of you who have watched on a Saturday night. All of US astrology geeks in the world Thanks for watching and thanks all of you. Who are listening out there for listening Yeah you'll be able to listen. You know maybe even watched this on Instagram Leader something I don't know I don't really know how the technology totally works yet. But I'M GONNA learn more heavy But it's been really fun to talk. I mean we just literally put microphones in front of our mouths but this is just who. We are all day every day. Thank Soliciting Hobie. Speed value chains People say it's been good. All right. Graham the whole wapping giant group of bless US appreciate. Yeah so so. We'll sign off here. We're heading into our dancing mode now. Big TIME TO BILL GATES. Move the energy get out of the stagnation of Capricorn and sending you all so much love. 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TIP288: Current Stock Market Conditions - 2020 Crash - COVID 19 (Business Podcast)

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TIP288: Current Stock Market Conditions - 2020 Crash - COVID 19 (Business Podcast)

"You're listening to T. I. P. Hey how's everyone doing out there on today's show we do not have a guest and instead stig and I are talking about the current market conditions during the episode. We talk about how we were at the market before the corona virus. How we see things now and then. Finally we talk about what we expect in the near future. I personally think this is one of the most unique investing environments. We have ever seen in decades and throughout this episode. You'll hear stinging I talk about all the reasons why I hope you guys enjoy listening to the investors podcast well. We studied the financial markets and read the books that influenced self made billionaires the most. We keep you informed and prepared for the unexpected. Hey everyone welcome to the investors podcast. I'm your host Preston. Fish is always accompanied by my co host Dig Broder Sin and we don't have any guests today. We are just the two of US talking about what in the world is going on. Guys this is GonNa be our no-nonsense opinions on how we saw this before it happened. Well how we're seeing it right now and what we think might be on the horizon so with that. Stig. Let's go ahead and kick off. This candidate Chat Oldboy Preston. Exciting Times I have to say going into the first topic of today how we were position before and we thought about the market before it all started. I don't think I took it seriously enough. If anyone has told me a month ago that we would be where you are today even what we knew about the corona virus at the time. Still be pretty surprised. How about you back? Whenever we aired the conversation and we recorded this conversation back in January with Eric Townsend. I was extremely concerned about what this was gonNA do. Globally and I think people probably heard that in that interview whenever I talked with Erick. The reason I was concerned because I was seeing the video is mostly on twitter. I was seeing the videos coming out of China and to me. It looked like a military exercise. I had participated in chemical biological military exercises back in the day in the army. And so I've seen what those look like and I've been in the Chemical Mass I've gone into the chemical chambers and when I was watching videos coming out of China I was saying this is a chem bio military drill. That's going on over there. And the fact that they took Wuhan which has a population of nine million people and had literally barricaded the entire city off to me logistically. That was not even fallon a bowl. It was insane and so it was interesting. The when we were talking to Erik that he was seeing the exact same thing and he was also saying. Hey this is going to disrupt all these supply chains coming out of China and so early on. I'd say January February. I was looking at this insane. I don't even care if they would get this under control. I think that the impact logistically from the supply chain management standpoint eighty percent of medicines that we use in the United States come from China and if whole place is on lockdown and no one's working and that's with all the videos were shown us that's what all the data was showing us is that they were seeing a drop of manufacturing. We were seeing that data in February that the manufacturing data was coming down by eighty percent in some industries for me personally. I thought this was going to be a total wallpaper. I didn't think that they were going to be able to control the spread and so I think it was in February. Maybe the beginning of February the market was still screaming higher with all the things that they're doing with the repo operations and everything and I was telling myself. This is not a time to have much exposure to anything in fact after we aired the episode with Eric and we posted on twitter. The comments from everybody was all your. You're out to lunch. You fear mongering you're this you're that and I was kind of questioning myself. Am I crazy right now? Am I the person who's looking at this way to negativity? But in the end wasn't it was accurate and it was very hard to go through all that to be quite honest with you emotionally as I was thinking in my overreacting to this or is this really as bad as I think it is and it turned out definitely was in fact it was worse than I thought it was. I would like to talk about how his position before and then late in the episode. I would like to talk a bit more about like what I'm doing now and in financial markets which is probably what everyone out there are thinking about so I unfortunately didn't go one hundred percent and cash hindsight twenty twenty Prussia shoot. I did stockpiling off cashier some time ago so I was around twenty percent in cash and like many other investors always struck with how much to keep in cash so looking back it might seem like it would be the right decision to just go hundred percent in cash. I generally don't think that's more or less ever a good decision to do and I didn't do that either. I do think it's very important for us. Investors that S Matzos. There are special emergencies. Special situations like this that we more than anything thinking about a long term strategy and no. It's sort of like it might seem silly of me to say that at this point in time but I do not think that the old buying whole strategy in any way is out of fashion. And I'll just go back in history and we are going to talk a lot about history in this episode just so we can relate to something else but I think it's important to keep in mind that whenever the Dow closed at three hundred in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight. The stock market was also valued. So whenever you feel the pain of everything. That's happening right now. I do think it's okay if you've been close fully mastered and if that is your strategy going into all of this that you don't know what's going to happen you can't understand won't understand pandemics and so many other things and you bought stocks years ago and you. WanNa keep it for next thirty fifty years. Whatever I think. That's still a solid strategy for me. It's been very tricky as much as I've been looking at the market and I've seen to be very and I've been accumulating cash. I didn't want to be in a position where I was just waiting for that big crash and then POW in my mind. Yeah I just don't think I have that ability. You could even make the argument that the module was or valuable whenever the Dow was trading in eighteen thousand and then be one hundred percent and cash. And you still wouldn't have been better even with where we are today in the nineteen of March so I guess that's how I position myself here before this dreadful month later I would like to talk a bit more. About what actually someone that cash and want him seeing my own portfolio. I'm curious Preston by going month. Back worrying place. Where you've said I WANNA be in different types of currences or just not really have any exposure at all. Yes so in February whenever the market still going higher and and this was looking like it was going to spread. That's whenever I started minimizing any exposure that I had in the market. I wouldn't say it was a complete liquidation by the middle to beginning of February but I was starting to pull back position because I was expecting this to be very bad. We have a momentum tool on our website with Ti p finance and having written the code that this works off of it. It's looking at the volatility ranges and then it's looking at statistical moves that are outside normal volatility and so I was paying very close attention specifically to the S. and P. Five hundred in the Russell. Two thousand on our T. P. Finance momentum tool because once that turned red for me at that point that was confirmation that what we're seeing is not normal volatility and was probably going to be something deeper and worse than we were expecting. I was anticipating that to turn red. I was just waiting for it to do the math. And show me that. That was a reality so that tool turned red on the twenty sixth of February. I WANNA say the market was down. Maybe ten percent from its high at that point. And that's whenever I went completely into cash through the use of that tool. The only thing that I was holding at that time was bitcoin and Bitcoin from its high for twenty twenty has gone down significantly. I WANNA say it dropped fifty percent for that specific position but if I was going to caveat that the position for the year was already up thirty five percent since the start of twenty twenty. So if you were looking at the performance from the start of the year that bitcoin position was only down fifteen percent which was from an were recording. This on the nineteenth of March that bitcoin position was only down call at fifteen percent for the year. And so the performance was actually really good compared to everything else from the start of the year. If you're looking at it in those terms so and I still have the BITCOIN position I've added to the coin position after a drop that fifty percent and I still have everything else in cash. That's not in Bitcoin. So my portfolio which probably sounds absolutely ludicrous to a lot of people right now and through. The event was cash and Bitcoin. I would argue that most of the reason that I'm in that position right now and it's so different than any type of position from a portfolio standpoint that I've been in the last ten years is because I've got major massive concerns about Fiat currency and fixed income markets. That I think are on the cusp of a total meltdown. At this point in time I guess when people hear this and they're saying well that's just crazy. That's not a safe way to invest. That's I mean. From my vantage point we are in the one of the most unique market environments. We've seen in more than one hundred years and I think it's only going to get more unique as the months. Come ahead and yeah. That's the position I'm in cash in. Us dollars specifically and Bitcoin. Thank you for your transparency on this and I remember. We had this discussion a month ago. So and you're very frank as you always are what you doing and set. This is not the time to be exposed and as with so many other times I decided not to listen to you and then realized afterwards that are probably should have whenever I look at my portfolio that obviously the partner was inequities obviously took a hit. I have some other investments in private deals. That looking look more attractive. I guess it's almost impossible not to these days but I have a strategy of buying long-term compounders have a position in Berkshire how the way and Miquel Google companies like that and obviously like the rest of the market. They have taken ahead. Obviously I don't feel good about it. I'm actually adding to my compounders because I do think that the price loves you see right now are attractive. I guess my strategy is for different reasons. Very DIFFERENT THAN PRESTON'S. We talked about momentum tool which. I think it's important to understand. We talked about jumping in and out of the Magi and how to do that. I want to caveat that discussion. I do not live in the states. Denmark do pay forty three percent in capital gains so. It's not as easy for me whenever I'm sitting on a lot of capital gains to jump in and out if the markets you jumped twenty percents. I'm actually even if I knew that Matt Selby quote unquote better off. Not Doing it depending on how you measure it so it is different situations. We're in I think that is a super important point for people to understand is the calculation of capital gains in in your portfolio because we have nothing close to forty three percent capital gains for a cell here in the states and so that completely changes the way. A person should invest in a major an unprecedented way. Because I mean you have. Let's say you have a fifty percent game right. And then you gotta pay a massive tax on that fifty percent gain transition into something else with that sell order and you have to be right in order to continue to progress in your portfolio so people when you are transitioning or you're you're looking to make a cell you have to ask yourself. What am I transitioning into? What is the expected return? I WANNA get in that investment after I pay my capital gains after I take that frictional hit of for stig forty three percent. That's crazy right. That's super high so it changes the way you invest significantly in if it's not you're probably not accounting for everything you need to be accounted for in the way you're working. Thank you for mentioning that Preston. It is different. It true that many countries here in Europe where we have higher tax rates. We need to account for that. We can't be as active with some decisions as you can. In the states where have a long term capital gains tax of fifteen percent? I have one quick thing here to Bitcoin that I know we're talking about back and forth. I've been this little surprised and then perhaps not of how much that it crashed here together with the stock market and one of those reasons. Why I'm saying that. Is that if we saw with golden in two thousand eight. Two thousand nine crashed together. Everything then rallied afterwards and perhaps be doing the same thing for the time being. It's not rolling but definitely crashed with the rest of the stock market. So in a way was expected in a way when we look at the historical data it would strongly suggest that it was not correlated to the Stock Market. And it seems like it has been. How do you look at that Preston? I think this was absolutely expected that you would see something like this. Because when you get into these market crashes what's actually taking place is you're having an absolute massive run to Fiat currencies because what you're having is. The derivatives market is blowing up and all those positions are getting re accounted for as to what should be long and what should be short so when all of the demand was coming off line and the world is saying. Oh my God. There's so much supply. All the underlying futures and derivatives that basically make those markets and protect all these companies basically insurance policies for all these companies right. Those are assets and liabilities on various peoples balance-sheets so when you have a massive disruption in supply and demand now all those assets and liabilities are well liabilities are getting impaired for people that were not positioned appropriately for this supply demand shock so when you have that happen all the people that are getting impaired on their balance sheet now have to liquidate other positions in order to come up with the Fiat which is what all of these are denominated in. So that's why you have a huge run two dollars. You have a huge run two euros two yen. Every major Fiat currency in the world has a big bid and everything else has a sell off because they have to come up with the underlying monetary baseline money that actually sits in these Fiat currencies in order to adjudicate. All this impairment. That's happening on the balance sheets. So gold acts the exact same way. You're seeing the bond market sell off right now. You're seeing the stock market. Sell off right now so. Why wouldn't you see bitcoin which none of these financial derivatives are denominated in Bitcoin? Today they're not so. Guess what Bitcoin is going to sell. And it's going to sell in a major way in order to adjudicate these delinquencies it. You're seeing in the derivatives market in all this impairment. That's happening on the balance sheets now. The reason I think that you saw bitcoin drop so much is because it has such a small market cap so look at the gold market it's seven trillion dollar market cap where BITCOIN's a hundred billion so it's literally one seventy th the size of the gold market so think who's in bitcoin. Believe it or not you have a lot of institutional money and you have a lot of wall streeters. You have hedge funds that want some type of exposure to bitcoin and if these other people that have that exposure also have derivative positions also have these exposures and other areas and Bitcoin's a place that they can sell in order to raise Fiat. They're GONNA do it and they did do it. And here's what I find. Fascinating is in the last three days. You've seen gold and Bitcoin specifically become completely on correlated to the S. and P. Five hundred so like yesterday and I know this is a super short timeframe but like yesterday the S. and P. Five hundred was down ten percent. I think bitcoin was up a percent or a half a percent so on that day it outperformed by ten percent. I kind of expect in again. We're recording on nineteen march. I expect that you're going to start. Seeing a drastic une correllated take between bitcoin and the S. and P. Five hundred from here moving forward because I think all those liquidations that we saw initially to cover for all the derivative failures that people were swapping positions in the Fiat to make good on those all that impairment. I think that has subsided. And I think it's over and now I think you're gonNA see a drastic outperformance if you compare it to the S&P five hundred moving forward. So let's talk about what we're doing now for the first part of the episode Talked about like how we saw it before. And it's talk a bit more about what we're doing now and what we see now. I haven't sold anything. I'm more than anything I'm looking to buy in the thing that is important for mo- strategies and now we have a lot of value investors here in our community. I think whenever you're listening to this as much as you might get some takeaways in terms of what we think. You should do in terms of going along this of that. I think my first piece of advice would beat. Do not panic and do not sell. And if you're here to that adviser thing you already way ahead of a lot of people just knowing that I think it's also important to keep in mind that even though we seen the third percent drop and just talking general stock whether you're GonNa Miss It on Dow Jones or five hundred. It's show not expensive has been but it's not super cheap. I mean we are far from two thousand nine scenario. The reason why it looks so attractive is because we have sort of become accustomed to Croatia evaluations. We have become accustomed to. If you have a company that makes no money. You can still have one hundred billion dollars like we have become accustomed to a lot of free money by free money. I mean like nonexistent interest-rate and just crazy bull markets iniquitous so. Keep that in. Mind whenever you look at the allegations today and don't just look at. Where was the stock market? In a month ago. Try to assume out if you can so I would like to talk a bit more about what I'm looking at right now. I actually just put out a limit or on bitcoin and just to be completely front without annoy here on the podcast at do tend to Bash Preston with him. I can just in general. I want to do that. Big kind because I would really like to have a more balanced conversation with all that being sat. I used this. How Preston forced me to buy bitcoin a long time ago. Which was I was really happy about. I happened in the new order at New Limit. Order for a lot to talk about a few different things that I've seen the market so not too long ago a send out a newsletter to all subscribers and everyone can sign up at ti dot Com p email dot com insecurity free email and you can see how Princeton I see the financial markets and we even put it on the academy. If you want to check that out and this was right after the travel ban I talked about how I was very interested in buying airlines and I think that most people probably read that and thought that was the most ridiculous thing that Everette because who wants to buy airlines right after. There's a travel ban so keep in mind that the rest of the market knows that to like. There's a travel ban and what happened. The next day was that make airlines dropped twenty percent and this was already on top of I think the I think the market probably crest ten fifteen percent by then and airlines has really really been punished notat company like Delta Delta traded at sixty plus not too long ago I think a few months and nothing yesterday close to twenty three now. Some of this is definitely fair. You know it's not s attractive especially Delta's not attractive as it has been dot just because of the travel ban. There's been a lot of different problems but the thing is also important that whenever you look at stocks thou facing a lot of headwind you have to ask yourself. Has the business fundamentally lost its eternal value? And let's just use airlines as an example. I think it's pretty safe to say that. Twenty twenty would be really really really ugly for airlines. But I think it's also important to keep in mind that whenever we value stock we are discounted cash flows from the remainder of the acids lifetime. So you have to make that calculation whenever you are thinking about exposing yourself there's something like L. Lines and I would argue that as much as it seems implausible for us to ever bought an airplane again. I would say that you won't see a fundamental shift in people's behavior long-term. Obviously if you start to get pandemics every other year we probably were but without knowing too much about this thing. That's going to be the case. I think it's also very important to know that if we look at the infrastructure. It's just not something we can just say. Let's just stop doing that. We already had the current administration being out and talking about the support of the industry. So it's not my way of saying. Oh guys airlines. It'd be rather ridiculous. There's definitely more risk attest to that. Compared to say a stock pick like brexit. How the way but it s it off notice the potential upside when everyone is freaking out is also that much higher so that was just one thing I wanted to talk about and I would also briefly like to talk about how the way. I've gotten a ton of emails from people talking about that now is the time to buy Berkshire hathaway and I do think that the stock is trading and attractive levels of the time recordings training one hundred seventy two and that's definitely a lot more attractive than it has been for a long time just to give you like a reference. Point Buffett bought back B shares of Berkshire Hathaway IN Q. Four and. That's the latest numbers that we have from books. How the way? And he bought back at the average price of two hundred and fifteen. He bought backs. Yes for two point. Two billion dollars and Demogra- cap of Berkshire Hathaway's right now. Four hundred sixty billion dollars. And I think it's a very interesting to kind of like how did that as a reference point. Now keep in mind that everything is. It's always a question about about unity. Cost so yes. Berkshire in many ways is lot more attractive than has been but so is so many all the stocks the other thing. I want to say yes. Next week we're going to do an episode about the Intrinsic Val- Pixel Halloway and without giving too much of a spoiler alert we do talk about intrinsic value. Perhaps in the two hundred and fifty to three hundred dollar range for b-shares Berkshire Hathaway's definitely interesting. But it probably won't be as undervalued as other stocks would be right now so please keep that in. Mind whenever you're looking at it any comments thoughts on that. Or what do you do Preston? Let's take a quick break and hear from today sponsor what do companies like ring hint into? Cova all have in common. They all use net sweet accelerate their growth successful companies. 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I guess I'm seeing what's happening from a much different Lens than maybe most investors. I personally think that were seen kind of a hundred year kind of thing going on right now and what I mean by that. Is I think that Fiat currency is going to have a major unprecedented meltdown. In the coming year two three years whatever I have a fundamental thesis on why in this is my fundamental thesis. I have the opinion that Fiat currency specifically fail. When three main things happen I when the currency has no peg it's a Fiat currency? That's the first condition second whenever the country has the receipts that receiving for all their tax revenues. They're not nearly enough to meet their fiscal spending habits. The fiscal spending habits are running amok. They're running out of control and they're not raising enough money. So that's number two number three in the third condition. All three of these have to be met to be put into this position where you're Fiat currencies GonNa fill the third one is. There's no interest rate yield left for the fiscal debt. That's being issued when you have all three of those situations and all three of those metrics being met my opinion is that the Fiat currency becomes vulnerable. You've seen in time in the past where countries have met all three of these conditions. Call it Japan and they haven't had this big meltdown scenario. I would tell you the reason why is because when you look at other Fiat? Currencies and everything in the world is Fiat currency at point. Nothing has pegged this. There was other interest rates where that capital in that. Fiat currency could run into other countries called the United States. Call it Europe up to a certain point in time now at this moment in time anywhere you go and I'm talking about rates from a real standpoint not nominal rates but real rates anywhere. You go in the world. You have negative interest rates in nominal terms and so all three of these conditions are now met and so you have this event that comes along the Corona Virus. And you have all these markets that are supersaturated with money that's just been printed in it's been printed in a manner that it's been inserted at the top through quantitative easing dropping interest rates. Down the nothing and now you come along and you prick that pin into that big bubble and POPs will now. You're in a unique situation where the weapon of choice for central banks moving forward is going to be Q. Either GonNA continue to do. Qe They're going to continue to keep rates at nothing but now they're gonNA have to do universal basic income and we're already seeing this rolling out globally all over the place. My opinion is that when you? Bi starts hitting every single bank account in country. If you have a pulse you're going to get a check for a thousand dollars right. That's happening not just in the US. That's happening globally. I think what you're going to find. Is that from an inflation standpoint. This is going to wreck havoc because not only. Are they going to have to do that? But now they're going to have to bail outs for these companies. So you have a Boeing for example. They're asking for fifty billion dollars and guess what? There's a high probability. I'm not saying it's going to happen. But there's a high probability that the government's GonNa give that to them and they're not gonna just give it to them. They're going to give it to every other company that is going to fail through all of this chaos and I think that when you look at the fact that people especially like restaurants small businesses the traffic flow that sustains their businesses and these are low margin businesses. That probably get by every month with just making. It are knocking have that traffic flow anymore because everyone is quarantined inside of their house. And there's no vaccine that's potentially going to hit at scale and that's the important part they're already working on vaccines but vaccines at scale or not. GonNa hit for another. I'd say at the earliest six months and I think that that's probably being aggressively optimistic. It's probably a year right and it doesn't even have to be real. People just have to think that it might be real to change their buying habits and their spending habits. And if you pull those back companies are not going to be making anywhere close to the revenues that they were making before so long story short with all of this. I think the governments are gonNA print at unprecedented levels. That's GonNa then drive inflation expectations and how this bond market that is yielding nothing because the bond market is completely based as a premium above inflation. Day So if inflation goes from to two percent we'll guess what whatever the bond was previously priced at. It's GONNA go up as a premium to that change in inflation. That's how bonds get priced. And so if interest rates start going up the valuations of everything on the planet. Start going down whether it's a bond or a stock one of the beautiful things about the momentum tool that we have on our site that's looking at the volatility is it also tells you WanNa turns green because there's been a statistical change in the volatility to the upside we have not seen that on a single ticker in our entirety. Ip Finance tool to date everything for the most part. There's a few that are green right. That are still perform. And they're the ones that you know. The mass company stuff like that that stuff's going to perform but for the most part almost every single pick on our entire T. financed is read at this moment. I don't how it could possibly turn green in the coming month. Let alone two months or three months. I think that this thing is going to work itself out at the earliest by midsummer based on the numbers that we're seeing. The critical turning point is watching the medical facilities work through all the patients that they're gonNa have so the reason everyone's at home is to slow down that rate of people showing up in the hospitals bouquet. That's the whole reason. Everyone's quarantined in their house right now and they're not at work and they're not spending money out on main street like they used to is because the medical facilities cannot handle the speed of patients showing up with this virus. So if we're going to look at a turning point win the governments are gonNA say hey you know what you can go back to work. Because we don't have that concern anymore. I think the earliest you're gonna see that as in the summertime here in the United States I mean look at Italy their nowhere even close to working through the amount of cases and in the amount of people that are waiting to get into the facilities in the US. I think you haven't even hit Max capacity in your ramping up in an exponential way that you're gonNA probably hit Max capacity by the end of April. And then it's going to take a couple months to work through that so as long as that conditions still in place from my vantage point you're not gonNA have normalcy and spending in the markets or anything. But you are going to have a whole lot of bail outs to the tune of trillions of dollars urine state. You might even have state governments that start to go under. Because they're not using their own currency they're using the dollar and they've made some very poor fiscal spending habits and they're not raising enough money as it is so you might start seeing bail outs. In that regard you're gonNA see bailouts to the individuals through universal basic income and has all these things are playing out. The last place that I want to be is pretty much in any kind of stock any type of equity. I definitely don't want any exposure to the bond market if I expect inflation to start taking hold with the amount of printing that's taking place. I just see it so differently. If you have a stock and it's gone down a lot with the question now becomes is. How much more do you think it's going to go down? And what's your exposure to the scenario that I just described is your ten percent down twenty or thirty percent down gonNA turn into another thirty percent down. I don't know that's for you to decide and you're going to have to look at what that industry is and you're going to have to think. Is that industry going to be impacted by everything that I describe which is a just disgusting scenario. But in my opinion it's reality and we have to make investing choices based on reality. Let me talk real quickly about what I think's going to happen after the hospital rates subside. And you start getting some normalcy back. Which for me at the earliest is going to be in the summer time frame. What I think you're GonNa see then at that. Point is you're going to see a transition to demand coming back online and you're gonna see the exact inverse what just happened and you're going to have this massive shortage of supply so like let's just talk the oil market. Let's say it's July or August and demand is now coming back. Online people are now out driving their cars way more than they were before you got. Oil Liners moving in the ocean. All those things transactions are occurring again. Right people are moving and you have consumption taking place but what you've had is an industry that has cut back on. What THEIR MANUFACTURING? And so now you have a shock in the exact opposite direction my expectation from commodity standpoint is you're GonNa see prices absolutely rip in an unprecedented way to the upside and I'm just talking oil. I'm not talking. The oil companies talking the price of oil per barrel. I could see that going to one hundred dollars a barrel in a very fast and dramatic fashion so now when people see this. How are you gauging inflation? How are you measuring inflation? Well it's the delta. It's the change of what the price was yesterday to the price today. I know this sounds unbelievable but if you go from ten dollars a barrel of oil which I think is actually in the cards. But we're GONNA see here on the horizon. You're going from ten dollars. A barrel of oil to a hundred dollars a barrel of oil and what that looks like from an inflation gauge standpoint. These bond markets are GONNA lose their minds absolutely lose their minds the stock market which is priced based off of interest rates. Right and remember. Interest rates are based on inflation. The stock market is going to go down because everyone's yield that their pricing into their cap models is gonna be drastically different than the zero percent. Everybody's using today so even though you're having a recovery comeback online you're going to see things that perform such a dramatic shift. That again would happen. In the past with the derivatives market it blew up. The derivatives market had drastic supply demand changes and therefore it got re price and then everybody who had a liability on their balance sheet from a derivative standpoint got impaired and then you had a huge sell off in order to account for that. What makes you think that when this rips the other way which is my opinion and I could be dead wrong? But if I'm right in this rips the other way from a commodity price standpoint that the derivatives market is not going to have another massive selloff in order to account for all the positioning that went the other way that we're seeing right now. I think that's what you're going to see by the end of twenty twenty. I think that scenario is GONNA play out. And I think it's GonNa to play out in such a dramatic way that no one is expecting that today. But let me tell you. That's what I'm expecting today. And that's just going to be yet another shock to the system so this brings me to what I think is playing out here and this is a highly highly controversial opinion and I understand that a lot of people are gonna like the opinion but this is what I think it is. I think what you're seeing is. You're seeing the start of an inflationary event. That's not gonNA be slow but that's GONNA be insanely dramatic in. It's all the result of Fiat currency breaking down. Here's a quote out of Ray values book. I'm GonNa read this and this is a quote out of his book. Big Debt crisis. I highly recommend that everybody reads this book quote. It says this is a strong word. But I'm GONNA use it. Investing during a hyper inflation has a few basic principles get short the currency. Do whatever you can get your money out of the country by commodities and invest in commodity industries like Gold Coal and metals. Buying equities is a mixed bag. Investing in the stock market becomes a losing proposition as inflation transition to hyper inflation. Instead of there being high correlation between the exchange rate in the price of shares. There's an increasing divergence between share prices and the exchange rate during this time gold becomes the preferred asset to hold. Shares are a disaster even though they rise in local currency and bonds are wiped out so that last part there where he saying. Shares are disaster. Even though the rise in local currency to nominally. This is going to be the next controversial thing that I'm saying right now is. Let's say we play this out. And we're in the middle of the summer end of the summer and you're seeing the medical situation subside. And the demands coming back online. It would not surprise me in the least bit to watch the stock market making new all-time high. I think that could happen. By the end of twenty twenty maybe even into the early part of two thousand twenty one. That could happen but what people aren't accounting for is. Those numbers are going up in nominal terms compared to bitcoin or compared to gold or compared to the price of oil me. And I think we're GONNA see is a I don't know if you WANNA call it hyper inflation but you're gonNA see a lot of inflation globally from that key milestone and I'm calling the key milestone when the demand on the hospital start to subside. You're comparing the performance of the stock market. Now just say the S. and P. Five hundred to those underlying commodities the stock market is. GonNa be down if you're majoring in those terms. But if you're measuring it back to the dollar well yeah. It might be higher. But you're buying power is what we're talking about here. We're not talking about nominal dollars and when you get into a situation like this. This is all about your buying power. Make no mistake about it. Anyone who's listening to this that lived in Venezuela or was down south in Argentina or any country that has experienced these inflationary events knows exactly what I'm talking about right now and what I'm talking about is preserving your buying power. That's what this is all about and I say this humbly as I can possibly say this. I could be dead wrong about this. We are seeing something that I have never seen in my entire lifetime. I have never lived through anything like this. But I've read some history and I've read some different books. That suggest that that's what we're seeing and from my vantage point. That's home positioning myself. I think it's very interesting for people out there. Perhaps here in both side of the arguments as you mentioned before you see this very differently than I do and time will tell who's right or perhaps if we both wrong for knows I would like to talk a bit about history effing. That's a good way of talking about what happened and reread big debt crisis and it got very different conclusions out which is interesting in itself whenever I look at what happened just like the financial crisis. Let's say from October. Two thousand seven to two thousand and nine. The stock prices fell roughly fifty percent from pizza trow and so far the reporting we've seen around thirty percent drop. I have no idea if the mock would temporarily dropped to fifty percent from recent peak but I do want to say that this happens in very very rare situations and perhaps it is one in a lifetime kind of thing I was saying before so in that sense. I don't disagree with him. Over the past one hundred years we had twelve crashes over twenty percent and now it's thirteen so this is also my way of saying that those fifty percent crashes only happens a few times per century and perhaps this is one of them props not I look at the corona crisis. You WanNA call it differently and if we just continue in comparison to two thousand eight. I think it's very different. The economy back then it was always a heated and it was much weaker than anticipated whereas the economy today before the crisis obviously before the growing crisis were doing much better. It wasn't like he was fantastic. But it was definitely doing well and speaking again here. Specifically about the equities. I do think that it was priced for a correction or Bamn against some point in time relatively soon so whatever you see here is not really crazy. Cheap which also I think it might slide even more but it is different and it's the same if you compare two thousand eight to the two thousand eight crisis a banking crisis and it was a real estate crisis. This is very different because it hits all sectors very differently and people spend less money people might lose their income and whatnot. So I don't know when this going to blow over no would never preston this referring to with this happening three months or six months so when we're going to have those scenes I don't know but I do think it would be back to business relative terms in many ways to address the thing about via currencies afterwards. Because I don't necessarily thing that will be back to business but I do think that a lot of things would be good back to normal and the do think that today that is a good time to continue. Add to the compound if you have which is now a much more attractive level so I wanNA address your comment about us kind of coming up with different conclusions after reading big debt crisis. So when you read this book let me just start off by saying this is not a simple read. If you're a person who's not like really into this financial valuation and market stuff. You're GONNA maybe by this book and say This is a little hard for. Hey it's a very hard read. It's a very technical read when you read it. I think most people who read it probably walked away with the idea that you either have an inflationary buster you have a deflationary bust and when you read the book you would probably come to the conclusion that in the US you're seeing a deflationary bust based on the way that the book talks. But I personally think there is a really really important paragraph in this book that addresses something that I think most readers are going to miss. It's a three part book. This comes out of part one age forty and this is the quote can reserve currency countries. Call it the. Us that don't have significant. Foreign CURRENCY DEBT HAVE INFLATIONARY DEPRESSIONS. While they are much less likely to have inflationary contractions that are severe. They can have inflationary depressions though. They emerge more slowly and later in the de leveraging process after a sustained and repeated overuse of stimulation to reverse deflationary leveraging. 's I think that paragraph was put in the book to describe exactly what we are seeing on a global scale today. Nowhere in that book. Is there a scenario for what we're seeing right now? There isn't there's never been a global inflationary scenario where every country goes through it. Okay there's not a single example in the book because it's never happened. But Ray did squeak that little paragraph in their page forty book one and there was nothing else that was mentioned. Other than that paragraph I underlined that paragraph. I highlighted that paragraph. I tabbed all corners of the page in book on that Paragraph because in my very humble opinion that paragraph is describing what we're about to see on a global scale and that's why it's so different than anything else that you can study because think about it in that quote he's talking about these deflationary leveraging that are happening and how that's exactly what it looks like we're having in the US right now and therefore they're using quantitative easing in order to stimulate so as everybody else. So how did we get here? How did the whole global market correlated so that? We're all having the meltdown at the same time and for me. The answer is really quite straightforward. It was Bretton Woods. It was Bretton Woods in nineteen forty four. The dollar was pegged to gold and every other country pegged their money to the dollar. So guess what they were all correlated. They were all coordinated together and distant happened. For a few years it happened clear up till nineteen seventy-one and so you had this harmony of currency manipulation that has happened since that time and we've had Fiat currencies Everson seventy-one on a global level and we've had interest rates that have been the declined cleared on zero-percent harmoniously across the globe. And guess what they're now all at zero percent and they're all Fiat currencies in the fiscal spending in every single country is exceeding their revenues. Therefore my opinion total meltdown of Fiat currency globally and all the ramifications that come with it which results in hyper inflation and now. I think the globe has to position themselves in a way that prepares for global hyperinflation. And you'RE GONNA find a scenario in the entire book that talks about it because it's never happened. Let's take a quick break and hear from today. 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You'll love that's better. Health dot com slash billionaires press. And I actually after reading the book the first time we did an episode about it. And we'll make sure it's linked to that. In the show notes talked both about the deflationary cycle. Inflationary also just want to keep in mind. That press is talking about inflationary scenario in the US which by definition is deflation there because he's a global reserve currency the ultimate that rebel. Y-you very recently did a write up about interest rates hitting zero and the corona virus and women show linked to Latin show notes to that is effect read. And it's very interesting to hear what rebellious is talking about these days. He's also hinting that. Perhaps the time is right to take a position in gold. And perhaps that is for those reasons that Preston Osho mentioned before because you want to maintain that purchasing power the thing or like to highlight here is that whenever you're betting on the stock market and now we're talking about more normal conditions than our actual lie to address Preston's point about defeat occurrences that mit slightly different. Whenever you doing that. It's not so much a bet on stocks or the stock market. It's really a bet on the world prospering. And I have to go back and look at history because I don't want to have two months availability. Bias people panicking around me. I should panic too. I will do WanNa Cancer Sumatra little and if I look at the past just fifty five fifty one of those. Yes we have seen. Gdp growth to be positive not with happen. Twenty twenty probably not at least. That's not the projections right now from the World Bank and there are so many reasons why we see a positive GDP growth and why we can expect to see that. And I'm talking about real numbers. I'm not talking nominal numbers here and a lot of that comes back to technology. I know I'm just making it very simplistic. There are so many different things that you can put into growth and what happens but if we just take one of the big one technology it's very important for global growth and therefore intern also in the real growth of the stock market. Can we imagine a scenario long-term where we stop innovating? Can we imagine a scenario where that just doesn't happen that we become more productive because of whatever kind of invention and here we can just think simply line steam engine however long WanNa go in history? That's probably not going to happen so I do want to say for those of you. Who are listening to some of this and again. Preston might be riding. I might be wrong. People listen to this. At least that's my vantage point that it will blow over we will have somewhat normal conditions again and both in real and nominal terms we will see people holding assets to be better off than holding cash everything else equal now. Preston said something really important before he said yes it might be better to old equities actually to be fair to press them pressing. Quarter rebellious saying this in his book. Equities might be a mixed bag. It would be better than cash whenever say Kassim just talking all this year but it won't be as good as real assets real acids being oil gold wouldn't necessarily bitcoin rebellious very critical about bitcon specifically? But the idea is still the same here. I do think that it's very very concerning that right now. Receive Zero rates in the and negative rates in Europe and in Japan. That give you one example here. The twelfth of March everyone expected the ECB the European central to lower deleting interest rate from negative point five to a negative point six. That didn't happen. And the euro sort as a result of that now. I would like to explain a bit more about that because that might not make innocence at all the way that currencies work is that it's always in comparison to something else but what the did say was that the wanted to increase the net asset purchase at that time by one hundred and twenty billion euros until the end of the year and in preparation to this episode. Put Down make sure to check news on a daily basis and see whenever they're going to buy back more and what ten twelve hours ago before we started this recording the increase that to seven hundred fifty billion. The chance of that working to Preston's point is very very limited and I say it's a very limited at best because bonds can't be post knots higher because of the environment that we're in and that is a huge huge issue is also set that continue to expect. Qe programs to runs longest necessary in all fantasy also did say that before Corona virus and they also provide a temporary capital. Abrasion will leave for banks so in a way you might say that the or not that much more constrained but there were still in the very bad place now if you compare that to the US. I do think that there are some serious concerns that we need to address and again. I want to go back in history to talk about that back on the third of March. The Fed lowers interest rate by half a point to one percent and this was the first time since the financial crisis that it was unannounced. Then not too long after it was lowered again by one hundred basis points or fancy way of saying one percent and there was the biggest since one thousand nine hundred eighty two but keep in mind that the interest rate in one thousand nine hundred two was very very different and what they also did. Was they increase? The holding of Tricia Curtis but at least five hundred billion Magi Churches by at least two hundred billion seems like a lot of money. And it's sort of this. It's around market cap of Google all. But it's very simple what you see right now. Is that monetary policy can stand alone especially at a time where you don't really have that much back in the tool kit and what you have probably won't work because before so what you see right now. Is that through fiscal policy. And just like to explain that whenever say Munzer policy you know thinking about interest rates thing about the quality pumped into the market whenever I talk about fiscal policy. It's universal basic income. It's new cullman programs to stimulate growth. That's different here and what rebel you would say in his book bit. That crisis is that it's very very important for a government to be extremely expensive in the fiscal policy. To mitigate that fact that you have from people spending a lot less money so you hearing hundreds of billions of dollars and just yesterday. There was talk about a new package with a trillion dollars. Whenever you hear that it is a lot of money but you also need to consider how much is redrawn in the economy. And what the good policymaker would do and this is very very difficult to do and rebellious Dulles. That too is that you need to make sure that you can stimulate growth. So you don't fall into this deflationary depression that could be a risk in the US. Now this is how I see it. This is how I read the book. This is how I read the news right now so I'm more look at it as mitigating that deflationary pressure more than what president is doing and I hope people within consider what they think is most plausible. Yes so I completely agree with what you just said one hundred percent and I think what we've seen up to right now has been exactly what you described. We've been in this deflationary depression type scenario. Where they're using chewy. They were using stimulus. I think right now. Is the transition point to that paragraph that I read where the deflationary depression type scenario is now knocking to take place? I think you're GONNA watch a pivot from the status quo of what has been to this now. Inflationary scenario globally. That's GONNA start playing out. I think right now is that moment. I want to tell people so. It's always fun to come on here and kind of talk about our theories on what's going on what's not going on and and whatnot but at the end of the day. I want to tell people how I plan to position myself in the coming year so like I said earlier I two positions I've got US dollar cash and Bitcoin right now. And I know that portfolio salads obscene. But that's what it is. I'm just being honest moving forward. There's some more things than I'm GONNA buy. And this is the event that's GonNa probably trigger it as of today. This is how I stand. This is what I'm looking to take a position on so I think the huge milestone event that I was saying earlier is when it looks like we're going to finally start to get relief on the medical front the demand on the hospitals in they're gonNA start sending people back to work. That event for me is going to be the turning point on literally Ya the entire direction that the markets are currently in and I expect them to continue to trend in until this event takes place when that takes place and you start to see people go back to work. I think the position to take is to buy gold miners and I think to buy the underlying commodity oil not oil companies necessarily but the underlying oil. I'm also GONNA do long term call options on both of those on minors on gold miners and I think silver might also do well silver miners but the gold miners specifically. I'm reading some things that there's some issues with the derivatives around gold right now separating from the underlying prices so for me. I'm staying away from G. L. D. I'm staying away from these. Etf's the track the price of gold. Because I think they're actually might be some issues with them not actually having what they say they have as far as I guess the trust around those vehicles. I've got some concerns with so if you are going to own gold I would tell you to own it physically in your hand based on those concerns but the thing I like about gold miners is that you don't have that risk. Because you're basically trading the valuation of the company so for me. I'm GONNA own the gold mining companies. I'm going to have call options on the gold mining companies and I'm gonNA own oil long as a call option as well and the timing for all of that is going to be whenever we see people start going back to work and you see the medical facilities actually start to get some relief and obviously gonNA continue to own bitcoin. Just one final note on oil companies. I tell you I'm interested in buying oil. The commodity long I have reservations about oil companies simply because I'm concerned about the demand coming back to what we saw before all this crisis took place with the current virus. If all this is playing out and you're seeing basically a dislocation of the status quo and the norm you're gonNA see spending habits. I don't think come back to where they were before. All this so call at the end of two thousand nineteen whatever their spending habits were. I do not see those spending habits being the same moving forward in the coming two to three years. I see the those spending habits being lower so if you have oil prices sky and you've got companies like Exxon Mobil that are now going to absolutely capitalize on those higher prices talking probably a year from now or eight or nine months or whatever that is if that scenario plays out and those prices go higher not only do they have to have higher prices. All the previous demand has to come back online in order for those oil companies to pop in price. I think you're definitely gonNA see a pop from whatever. The low ends up being for oil companies. I just don't know that it's going to rebound to the level that you saw before all this happened. That's my concern but it absolutely could. I just don't feel like I have enough confidence in that happening because I have concerns with demand coming back to the way it was. Alright so would that set. It would be good to play Christian from the audience. Also because specifically this question is about leaps and leave is an acronym for long term Equity Anticipation. You can more or less seed as a bet on where you think a price for something like goal or specific stock for that matter. He's going so. Let's play Christopher audience from Philip. Hey guys thanks for picking my question. I'm a huge fan. This show as I record this. The market had its worst trading day since nineteen eighty seven due to the panic caused by the krona vires. This is definitely opened up some attractive value opportunities. What is your opinion on buying long term call options like leaps instead of just the underlying stock itself also health frequently do protect your own long positions inequities with putts. Thanks dance so Philip. Love the question. It's a very pertinent question for what's going on. I really likely when I say a leap. It's basically a two year call option as what we're talking about here. I have some rules and they were completely adopted from Joel. Green Bats Book that he does not allow himself to take more than fifteen percent principle. If you got one hundred dollar portfolio. He's not going to allow himself to put more than fifteen dollars into call options. His other rule is that he only does call options. He does not do puts. I personally don't do puts. I only do call options. That's really kind of the simplicity of it. The reason I can't stand puts because they have unlimited risk. If you're using it in the manner that you described I see it as kind of a frictional insurance policy. If I have concerns with the company offset might stop at whatever I think that quote unquote insurance policy is and if it has too much volatility will then maybe it shouldn't be in my portfolio if I don't have conviction on it anyway so when you're talking about doing this especially at this point in time like I mentioned earlier in the episode I plan on using these leaps in these long term call options and I plan on using them for gold mining companies and I plan on using them for the underlying oil price. But I don't plan on doing that until that specific milestone in time today I have no exposure to these things. I think putting that on right now based on my thesis that you heard me say earlier I think putting that now on right now for any equity is just. I think there's more pain on the horizon simply because no one's working all of that still being priced mark. Yusupov had a awesome tweet that I really liked. He said when you get in a situation like this for a market that's going down. It's almost like taking a ball rolling down the steps. The bounces it. I are very small but as the ball kind of gains more energy as it goes down the steps the balances in the ball get more violent and more volatile as they get to the bottom of the steps when you're looking at this. I think that there's probably more paint on the horizon. When I say that it could be a month it could be fifteen days. I don't know based on everything kind of revolving around people staying at home and all that demand dropping off and I think the market is trying to figure that out and price that accurately and that's why you're seeing the violent swings but as long as you see the market go down ten percent and then the next day it's up five percent and then next day it's down seven percent and then the day after that it's up three percent when you're seeing that volatility in the movement are the trend is going down and it's staying inside of that volatility range. I'm going anywhere near that with buys until I feel like there has been a statistical change in that trend so I would tell you great idea. It's going to be very lucrative idea if you do it right. But you've got to provide yourself the most advantageous timing in order to do it. I would much rather show up a little late in the price capture on the bottom by being late than the put this onto early. And you totally misunderstood. How bad the Koran viruses and you get timed out on your call so I would tell you you wanna be on the right side of the V. And not on the left side of that. V is just my personal opinion so stig would you got man especially in times like these. It is very important to understand both impact update leap oppressing before but also potential buying a good and I think that when we talk about you can sort of think about it as insurance to your portfolio and situations like this you might say because of your put exposure your portfolio wouldn't go down as much as it all of us and it looks very attractive these days. It hasn't been looking at tractive for years whenever we have the bull market. So let's just zoom out here a bit and talk about shoot you buy insurance and the the best example I can make is to use a real life example of shoe a shoot. You're not buy travel insurance so like so many other people. The intention was to go to the Berkshire Hathaway event unfortunate. That's being cancelled and I'm a value investor so obviously a very cheap ticket was around five hundred bucks and I could buy insurance for another fifty bucks so I could cancel it if needed which I didn't buy because I thought to myself I can afford to pay that five hundred dollars. Everything goes wrong. And don't even get Masada on if there is a severe crisis you might even be able to be paid back in any case which might be the case here. So the reason why. I'm using that sort of silly example is whenever you considering shoot you buy put options or not. You can think about it as travel insurance. Can you afford if your portfolio would temporarily go down third percent before it bounces back and if the answer to that is yes? You probably shouldn't spend money on something like that is sort of like the all theory on this. That being sat. When are we talking about lease which I found a lot more attracted that puts because your risk is limited? And it's a very different bat wants to say. Is that the way that options being priced. This is basically what is called an option. You're thinking about different scenarios and the Maga price that way. The price of an option is based on multiple factors including volatility. And something called a strike price to something. I would like to talk about here shortly but my main point I about this model is it's proven to be quite accurate within the year whenever you go out for more than a year. It tends to be widely inaccurate which is very interesting if you have a very different opinion on something like the price of oil when everyone is thinking. It's just going to go down. The oil price is here to stay at this low level or whatnot. That's whenever you can really get a very interesting return if you think that. The oil price like Preston mentioned before who go to something like one hundred dollars. He's Stig I have one other thing they add. They're so think of it like this if you were going to have. Let's just say you had a company acts right was your was your stock pick and it's trading at one hundred dollars and you have concerns about the downside so you WanNa buy a put on it. I think for me. The the cost put those puts on in order to protect that you have to see how volatile the pick is if the pick is really volatile and the cost for that put option is more advantageous than a stop. That's very volatile. Let's say that that the company has thirty percent volatility and let's say that to protect that volatility. The put is really cheap at the strike. Price that you're at within the put makes all the sense in world. Bill let's say the put is expensive relative to that annual long-term volatility range okay. I would tell you you're going to get a better return on your money to protect that by putting a stop that would be ten percent or let's say the volatility on it's five percent or ten percent put in the volatility put in the stop based off of that to protect your downside in it might be more advantageous from a price standpoint. You have to do the math on that to understand which one is more advantageous based on the price of the option and then based on the volatility rains that you're looking at that you would say all right. There's the typical change to the downside and I need to sell it at that point. That's how I would look at that scenario and just follow up on that president. I think is also important in this. Stand that the way that these option being priced as for practical reasons. You typically do that on historical data. How much do they do the fluctuate? We are in a very different situation right now. Of course some extent is being priced into the options market. So you can't really use that today as under other conditions especially if you have a different opinion on that and especially if something is punished or really popular so like the. Let's talk about oil rights. All I'm saying that I'M GONNA take an oil call here in the future whenever I think all the demand and everyone's going to come back to work. Well those those options are going to be priced really advantageously. Because they're going to have been so punished through this move so that's something else you got to consider when you're looking at using options. As an insurance policy is depending on how punished. Or HOW EXUBERANT? Your company is at whatever point in time might dictate whether you're getting a sweetheart price on the put or maybe it's way overvalued and the stop would make more sense. It's on a case by case basis. But I think those are the variables that you have to use and you have to think about as you'd be putting something like that on to kind of relatively compared to each other and just around that offer thing. It's very important for people to understand stripe price in the concept of being in and out of the money so when they were talking about options. It's not paid out like on the one on basis. You know it's all a question about probabilities. So if we're talking about a strike price on the barrel oil of eighty dollars. Obviously that would be priced very lucrative in these conditions. And I think that for people who are considering taking advantage of all the certainties are right now and might be interested in real asset because of the reasons that press before not necessarily today but I do agree that in the next few months to come you will get some very attractive valuations that you haven't seen in the options market for a very very long time especially if you are of the opinion that real assets spiked dramatically because that is definitely not what the market is expecting right now all right so fill up. That's all we have for you. We're GONNA give you free access to our T. I. P. Finance too. We've talked about this a lot on the show today and what we've talked about specifically on it is this momentum tool that's looking at the volatility that's helping you understand what the annual volatility of the companies are. This tool will tell you. 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From Belief to Knowing | Liv Luv Lux

Liv Luv Lux, Life Unlimited Podcast

12:24 min | 1 year ago

From Belief to Knowing | Liv Luv Lux

"It took some time for me to. Fully understand this concept. And it's funny because it wasn't something that I readily. I guess thought about would be the best way to put it. But it's an important part. Step in your journey. And you live lovelock's. Is My baby. It is. Basically everything that I've researched everything. That I've experienced over my lifetime kind of condensed into this. These talking points in this advice and suggestions. But. The goal. Is really just to help people. Go from. Belief to knowledge. So, what's that mean? That's the title today's show going from belief to knowledge from believed to knowledge. Hi, I'm Nicole this live. Lovelock's manifesting the life limited so I've taken a couple of days off because I've been thinking about the future of the show and you know what I want to talk about and really being of service to my audience. And it came to me last night to talk about going from believed to knowledge because. What's the difference between believing and knowledge? You know it's really the key factor in your manifestation process whether you believe something I mean isn't that. One of the foundational principles that you believe. That you already are. WHO YOU WANNA, be, or you believe that you already have which you want to have so. If belief is the foundation known? What is knowing right? Knowing I guess is. Dropping desire and knowing that it's coming. Knowing that you're manifestation is coming. But I don't I want to give this away from a discussion about material things because there's more to life than the material round, there's more to life than money. Even, having a companion or partner, you know honestly we come here alone. We're leaving alone and at the end of the day. Our relationships make experience sweeter, but. There is a development. You're going through the I'm going through that. We're all going through. which is a personal singular experience. And part of that is jumping from being believers to being nowheres. So. First, the first definition or the first description or Identification! About being a believer is that belief is based off of information that you gain from someone else or other sources, so you read something you read the Bible. You read the Koran, you read other source you know other documents religious documents, and you become a believer of what you reading. Okay, but this is not your personal experience. This is the experience written down by other people seen through others is okay, so you believe it because something resonates within you. Touches your soul. Reaches to that part of you where you believe this is truth. You will go through many belief systems over the course of your life. You may start out in one direction and end up in a total different direction because your beliefs change over time because. you start to know things and what's knowledge which knowing things knowledge is based off of your own personal experience. So a lot of times we come to forks in the road. It's because our personal experience has contradicted our belief experience. The things that we've learned from others that we've read in books that we've learned from teachers and authority figures. and. A lot of times we come to forks in the road, and we decide to take the road less traveled or we decide to continue. In the belief, saying regardless of what my personal experiences! I'm going to go with. The belief system. And, sometimes we say. You know I'll be done with the belief system and I'll go with my my personal experience. So, how does this? How does this frame your manifestation journey and what you create, your creates your creations like. How does this contribute to it? Because ultimately even if you believe somethings like even if you believe me and anything that I say, and you believe it wholeheartedly, you do not have the experience as of yet until you start manifesting or until you so until something that I'm saying matches your own personal experience, you are ges in a sense wishing hoping that I'm right, or what you're reading is right. You want it to be right. Okay, that's becomes actually an intention. It's a desire that what you're a. you're reading what you're hearing from your teachers and your mentors and the people that you're listening to on Youtube or Anything else. It's a desire intention that. What they're talking about their personal experience, and that they are right. You wanted to be right. You want to believe that you can create your own reality that your thoughts and imagination can create in Three D. reality. Who doesn't want to believe that? But. If you in order to jump to knowing, you have to have that personal experience where you went through the process. And you had an outcome. So that's how you jump from believed to know her. You have to continue to manifest. You have to continue to manifest and your personal experiences then. Your beliefs. And you can still believe your beliefs like for example when I first started learning about the law of attraction. And manifestation you know I was. Looking at it through the law of attraction leads so a lot of the things that were put forth in the movie and in the book where things that I believe. As I've gotten older and wiser and I've read different authors and I've had my own different personal experiences. My my viewpoint has changed so that it's not fully a one hundred percent. Was the secret law attraction viewpoint? It's a combination of my experience and then other authors that I've read like novel Goddard and The Deem Zealand. Team, but the guy who wrote reality transferring. It's combination. And then you know Roomy, and Osho and you know different other different readings of other things that I've read in my journey that have kind of. You know. The four agreements the these are things that contributed to my world view, but. This is what I'm talking about. I'm giving you a lot of background, but here's what I wanna Sadia. Which I think is the most important thing. When you jump into the role of noar, instead of believer that is where your true power lives. That is where your true creativity lies. That is how you're going to manifest whatever you want. Because knowing that it's pointed to come to pass. There's no worry there's no looking at the time clock in the calendar. There is no doubt because you know that this is the thing this is it? This is how it happens. This is how your imagination turns into reality, and you know it. You know it like you know your own name like you know your age like you know where you live, you know it. and. There's nothing that can shake your knowledge that this is a fact and these things. Are, coming to past or coming to pass. So. I. Stand here, sit here before you and I say look. It's not about what I say. It's not about techniques. It's not about opinions. It's not about. Whether I. Do it this way or that way or whether anybody does anything. It's what you know to be true. You know you get introduced to these things, and you form your beliefs, but it is your effort and personal experience. That's GONNA. Make you noer. And that is. That's the God. That's IM. The knowing that. It is so. and. You won't know that until you manifest. So you start small, you start with small things you start trying to manifest. You know. Animals. You know little trinkets you start. Small things money you know food dinners seeing people you haven't seen, and then you move up to the bigger things you know houses cars, and then you move up to the spiritual experiences, you know I mean transcending the human body possibly. There the sky is the limit whatever you can create and think of is possibility. So. That's heavy I. think it's kind of heavy. I tired sometimes. They're talking about certain things because. I don't. I had an experience over the last couple of days where. I just felt like. There's more. And I'm doing a disservice if we don't explore more of what we can manifest in create together you know, and with our world the way it is the all the different things that are going on, and you know people are standing up for themselves and you know. It's it's it's A. It's a change. There is a revolution going on, but it's not just a physical revolution. It's also a spiritual revolution that's happening. People are waking up there becoming conscious, they're becoming creators and things are changing and I feel like. We have to start exploring some of these greater levels of consciousness as opposed to just trying to manifest a specific person or trying to manifest money, not that those are enders, anything wrong with it because we all need got in our reality at some point, but. Knowing. That you can go further, right. That's the sweet spot because at the end of the day like I said. We come here alone. We're going alone. You know there's no. We're not taking any of US stuff with us and we're not taking any people with us. So that's something to consider to try to make this experience. As vivid and loving and lovely and delightful in tasteful and juicy, and Yummy and whatever type of descript, or you can come up with, but it also means superseding those things that are just material as well. So going from. Belief to knowing from believed to knowing that's the show I'm. Nicole is has been live. Lovelock's manifesting the life unlimited. If you'd like to discuss some of the finer points. Going from believer to know her, you can reach me at live lovelock's dot com that's l.. I., V. L.. U. V. L. U. X. DOT COM and hey. Welcome to your life.

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The neid (Book IV), by Virgil

Harvard Classics

25:40 min | 8 months ago

The neid (Book IV), by Virgil

"Book for part one of their need. This is a libra folks. Recording only provokes recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer. Please visit libra. Vox dot org. Recording by philip jenkins the need by publicis. Virginia's mario translated by john dryden book for the passion of the queen part one. The argument daito discovers to her sister her passion for an and her thoughts of marrying him. She prepares hunting match for his entertainment. Juno by venus consent raises a storm which separates the hunters and drives aeneas and daito into the same cave where their marriage is suppository to be completed jupiter dispatches mercury to aeneas to warn him from carthage india secretly prepares for his voyage daito finds out his design and to put a stop to it makes use of her own and her sister's entreaties and discovers all the variety of passions that are incident to a neglected lover when nothing would prevail upon him. She contrives her own death with which. This book concludes but anxious. Care has already seized the queen. She fed within her veins aflame on scene. The heroes valla acts and birth inspire her soul with life and fan. The secret fire his words his looks imprinted in her heart. Improve the passion and increase the smart now when the purple mourn had chased away the dewey shadows and restored the day. Her sister i with early care she sought and thus in mournful since eased her thought my dearest anna new dreams of fright my laboring soul. What visions of the night to stir my quiet and destruct my breast with strange ideas of our trojan guest. He's worth his actions and majestic air. Amand descended from the gods declare. Fear ever argues degenerate kind. His birth is well asserted by his mind then what he suffered. When by fate betrayed what brave attempts for falling troy. He made such were his look so gracefully he spoke that where i not resolved against the yoke of hapless marriage never to be cursed with second love so fatal was my first to this one era. I might yield again for since the case was untimely. Slain this only is able to subvert the fixed foundations of my stubborn heart and to confess my frailty to my shame somewhat i find within if not the same to like the sparkles with my former flame but i let yawning earth a passage rend and let me through the dark abyss. Descend i let avenging jove with flames from high drive down this body to the never sky condemned with in endless night to lie before i break the plighted faith i gave. No he had by vows shall ever have for whom i loved on earth. I worship in the grave. She said the tears ran gushing from her eyes and stopped. Her speech has sista thus replies. Oh tehran vital air. I breathe when you to grief your bloom in years bequeath condemned to waste in woes. You're lonely life without the joys of mother or wife think you these tier this pompous train of war known or valued by the ghosts pillow. Ground that while your sorrows yet to a green well became a woman and a queen the vows of tyrian prince sistonen collect to scorn help us and his love reject with all the libyan lords of mighty name but when you fight against a pleasing flame this little spot of land which heaven bestows on every side is hemmed with warlike foes that to leeann cities here are spread around and fierce numidians day or frontiers bound here allies. A baron waste of thirsty land. And they're the surtees. Raise the moving sand bar. Kayan troops besieged the narrow shore and from the pygmalion threatens more propitious hevner ungracious. Juno lead this wandering navy to your needful eight. How will your impass spread. You'll city rise from such a union and with such allies implore the favor of the powers above and leave the conduct of the rest to love. Continue still your hospitable way and still invent occasions of their stay till storms and winter wind shall cease to threat and planks ause repair their shattered fleet. These words which from a friend and sister came with ease resolve the scruples of her fame and added fury to the kindled flame inspired with hope the project they pursue on every altar sacrifice. Renew chosen you of two years. Old they pay to series. And the god of day preferring juneau's power for juno ties the nuptial not and makes the marriage joys the beauty queen before her alter stands and holds the golden goblet her hands. A milk. white heifer she with flowers adorns and pools the rutty wind betwixt her owns and while the priests with prayer. The goats invoke. She feeds that alters with sabine smoke with alley cat sacrifice renews and anxiously the panting and trails views. What presley writes last. What pious out. What vows avail to cure a bleeding heart a gentle fire. She feeds within her veins with the soft god. Secure in silence reigns sick with desire and seeking him. she loves from street to street the raving. Daito rove's so when the watchful shepherd from the blind wounds with a random shaft careless hind distracted with her pain flies the woods bounds or the lawn and seeks the silent floods with fruitless. Care for still the fatal dot sticks in her side and rankles in her heart and now she leads the trojan chief along lofty rules amidst the busy throng displays her tyrian wealth and rising town which love without his labor makes his own this pump. She shows attempt her wandering guest. Her faltering tongue forbids to speaks arrest when day declines and feasts renew the night still on. His face feeds her famished site. She longs again to hear the prince related own adventures and the trojan fate. He tells it all around but still in vain for still. She begs to hear it once again. The hero of speakers mouth depends and thus the tragic story ends then when they part when phoebe paler light withdraws and falling stars to sleep invite she lost remains when every guest is gone sits on the bed he pressed and size alone absent. Her absent hero seasoned his or in her bosom young scantiest bears and seeks the father's image in the child if love by likeness might be so beguiled meantime. The rising talents are sustained. No labor's exercise the useful band nor use of art nor toils of arms. They know the mole is left unfinished to the fo. The mounds the works. The walls neglected lie short of their promised tight that seemed to threat to the sky. But when imperial juno from above saw daito of love halt with the venom which have veins inflamed and by no sense of shame to be reclaimed with soothing words to venus. She began high praises endless owners. You have one and my mitee trophies with your worthy son to golds a silly woman undone. Nor am i ignorant. You both suspect this rising city which my hands erect shall celestial discord never cease to better ended in a lasting peace. You stunned possessed of all your soul. Desired pool data with consuming lovers. Fide your trojan with my tyrian. Let us join so died. Osho beal's aeneas mine one common kingdom one united line allies. I shall a darden lord obey and lofty carthage for a dr convey then venus who are hidden fraud descried which would the center of the world misguide two libyan shores thus ought fully replied. Who but a fool would wars with juno choose on such alliance. Such gifts refuse a fortune without joint desires comply. The doubt is all from jove and destiny lest he forbid with absolute command to mix the people in one. Common land will the trojan and the tyrian line in lasting leagues and show us accession but you the partner of his bed and thrown may move his mind. My wishes i own mine said imperial. Juno be the k. Time urges now to perfect this affair attend my council and a secret share. When next the sun his light displays and guilds the world below with purple raise to queen. Anne is and the tyrian court sheltered the shady woods for sylvan. Game resort there while the huntsman pitched their toils around and cheerful horns from side to side resound. A pitchy cloud cover all the plane with hail and thunder and tempestuous rain. The fearful train shall take their speedy flight dispersed and all involved in gloomy night one cave a grateful shelter shallow food to the fair princess and the trojan lord. I will myself the bridal bed prepare. If you to bless the nuptials will be their social their loves be crowned with do delights and hyman shelby present at the rights. The queen of love consents and closely smiles. That are vein project and discovered whilst the rosie mourn was risen from the main and horns and hounds awake the princely train the issue early through the city gate with a more wasteful huntsman. Ready wait with nets and toils and dots beside the force of spartan dogs and swift million hosts the tyrian peers and offices of state for the slow queen in anti-chambers. Wait her lofty corser in the court. Below who has majestic ride a seems to know proud of his purple. Trappings pools ground and champs the garden. Bitten spreads the foam around the queen length pairs on either hand bruni in marshall order stand flowered cima with golden fringe. She wore and at her back. A golden quibble her flowing. Hair golden coal restrains a golden clasps the tyrian robe sustains then youngest kenya's with a sprightly grace leads on the trojan youth to view the chase but far above the rest in beauty shines the great aeneas the troop he joins like fair apollo when he leaves the frost of wintry zanthosyn the lucian coast wendy. His native de las he resorts ordains the dances and renews the sports where painted skains mixed with creatine bands before the joyful alters joined their hands himself on synthesis walking sees below the mary madness of the sacred show. Green reads of bet's his length of hair and clothes. A golden filat binds his awful browse. His quiver sounds not less. The prince is seeing in manly presence or in lofty mean now. They reached the hills and storm the seat of savage beasts in dens. That lost retreat. The cry pursues the mountain goats bound from rock to rock and keep the craggy ground quite otherwise the stags a trembling train in herds on single scowl the dusty plane and a long chase in view maintain the glad scantiest cool so guide spurs through the veil and these and those out rides his horse his flanks sides are forced to feel the clanking lashing goring of the steel impatiently views the feeble pray wishing some nobler beast across his way and rather with the tuskegee bore attend or see the tourney line down bend meantime the gathering clouds of skew the skies from pole to pole four key lightning flies the rattling thunders role and juno pause a wintry deluge down and sounding xiao's the company dispersed to cover its ride and seek the homely cops or mountains hollow side the rapid rains descending from the hills to rolling tolerance raise the creeping reels the queen and prince as love or fortune june guides one common cavern in her bosom hides then i the trembling earth the signal gave and flushing enlighten all the cave hell from below and juno of and howling nymphs were conscious affair love from this ill omen our in time arose debate and death and all succeeding was the queen whom sense of honor could not move no longer made a secret of her love but cooled it marriage by that species name to veil the crime and sanctify the shame the loud report through libyan cities goes fame the great ill from small beginnings grows swift from the first and every moment brings new vigour to her flights new pinions to her wings soon grows the pick me to gigantic size her feet on earth her foreign in the skies enraged against the gods revengeful earth produced her last of the titanium birth swift is will kamal swift are winging haste a monstrous phantom horrible and vast as many plumes as razor lofty flight so many piercing is enlarge her site millions of opening mouths to fame belong and every mouth is furnished with a tone and round with listening ears the flying plague is hung. She feels the peaceful universe with cries. No slumbers ever close. Her wasteful is by day from lofty towers. Her head she shows and spreads through trembling crowds disastrous news with kuwait informers haunts and royal spies. Things done relates. not done. She feigns and mingles truth with lies. Talk is and her chief. Delight to tell of prodigy's and cause a fright she feels. The people's is with di does name who lost to honor in the sense of shame admits into her throne and nacho bed wondering guest who from his country fled whole days with him. She passes into lights and wastes in luxury. Long winter nights forgetful of her fame and royal trust dissolved in ease abandoned to her lost the goddess widely spreads the loud report and flies at length to kenya scored when i possessed this unwelcome news. Whom did he not of men. And gods accuse this prince from ravished. Gary mantis born a hundred temples. Did with spoils adorn in amazon's on his celestial sire. One hundred alters fed with wasteful fire and through his vast dominions priests ordained who's watchful care these holy rites maintained the gate and columns with garlands crowned and blood of victim beasts enrich the ground. He when he heard a fugitive could move the tyrian princess. Who disdained his love. His breast with fury burned his is with fire. Mad with despair impatient with desire then on the sacred altars pouring wine he thus with prayers implored his sire divine great jove propitious to the morrish race who feast on painted beds with offerings gray style temples and adore power divine with blood victims and with sparkling wine cease down. Not this what do we fear in vain. Die boasted thunder and thoughtless rain. Do the hebrew would hand the lightning. Lance nine are the bolts or the blind work of chance a wondering woman build within our state a little town board an easy rate. She pays me homage on my grants. Allow a narrow space of libyan land to plow yet scorning me. By passion blindly lead admits a banished trojan to her bed. And now this of the paris with train of concord. Cowards must in africa rain whom what they are. There looks and gobs confess their locks with oil perfume. There login dress. He takes the spoil enjoys the princely dame and i rejected. I adore an empty name. His vows in haughty terms he does preferred and held his autism. Owns the mighty. Sandra heard then cost his is own coverage where he found the lustful pair in lawless. Pleasure drowned lost in. Love's insensible of shame and both forgetful of their better fame. He calls salinas and the golden tens by whom his menacing gaumont he sends go mount the western winds and cleaved the sky then with a swift descent to carthage fly. There find the trojan chief who whisked his days in slothful riot and inglorious ease nor minds the future city given by fate to him. This message from my mouth relate not so fair. Venus hoped when twice she won. Day life with pres- promised such a son hers was a hero destined to on a martial race and rule the nand who should his ancient line from tusa draw on the concord world impose the law if glory cannot move a mind so mean nor future. Praise from fading pleasure win yet. Why should he defraud his son of fame and grudge the romans. They're immortal name. What is vein designs. What hopes he more from his loan lingering on a hostile shore regardless to redeem his honour lost and for his race to gain the are sonian coast bid him with speed the tyrian court for sake with this command. The slumbering warrior wake hermes obeys with golden pinions binds his frying feed mounts the western winds. And whether or the seat or earth size with rapid force they bear him down the skies but first he grasps within his awful hand that mark of sovereign power his magic wand with this. He draws the ghosts from hollow graves with this. He drives them down the stitching waves with this he seals in sleep the wake full site and is closed in death restores to light thus owned the gold begins his area race and drives the wrecking clouds along. The liquid space now sees the tops of atma says he flies whose brawny back supports the starry skies atlas whose head with piney forest crowned is beaten by the winds with foggy vapors owned snows. Hide his shoulders from beneath his chin. The fountain of rolling streams their race begin. A bid of ice on his large breast depends here poised upon his wings that god ends then rested us. He from the towering height plunged downward with precipitated flight lights on the seas and skims along the flood as waterfowl who seek their fishy food less and yet lest distant prospect show by tons they dance aloft and dive below like these steerage of his wings he plies and near the surface of the water flies till having passed the sees and cross the sands. He closed his wings and stoop down. Libya lands where shepherds once were housed in. Homely sheds now towers within the clouds advance their heads arriving there. He found the trojan prince new ramparts raising for the town's defense a purple scarf with gold embroidered or queen. Die does gift about his waist. He wore a sword with glittering gems diversified for ornament not use hung idly by his side then thus winged words the god began resuming his own shape degenerate man. Thou woman's property what makes dow here these foreign walls and tyrian towers to rea- forgetful of their own. All powerful jove sways the world below and above has sent me down with this severe command. What means lingering in the libyan land if glory don't move a mind so mean no future praise from flitting pleasure win regard the fortunes of the rising edge the promised ground let young scania swear to whom they are. Sonia septa and the state of rome's imperial name is owed by fate so spokes the gold and speaking to his flight involved in clouds and vanished out of sight. The prince was seized with sudden fear mute was his tongue and upright stays hair revolving in his mind stern command. He longs to fly and loathes the charming land. What should he say. Oh how should he begin. What course alas remains to steer between the offended lover and the powerful queen this way and that he turns his anxious mind on all expedients tries unconfined fixed on the deed but doubtful of the means of long thought to this advice he leans three chiefs. Sequels commands them to repair the fleet and ship them and with silent. Care some plausible. Pretend he bid them find to color. What in secret. He designed himself meantime. The softest hours would choose before the lovesick heard the news and move. Her tend to mind by slow degrees to suffer. What the sovereign power decrees jove will inspire him when and what to say they here with pleasure and with haste obey.

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132 - Minor Attraction

Turn Me On

1:02:41 hr | 1 year ago

132 - Minor Attraction

"The Blue Books Jerry here and I am sitting in a hotel room in downtown Toronto. I was in town for work for a few days and Trying to get this episode together to put it up on time before flying back to health acts And thought before we throw to this week's absurd I give you a little update Bridie was off grid for a good hefty chunk of time. Fuck it felt like she was really. She was not able to connect with for years but she is finally back on grid or or at least was for a couple of days while I was here in Toronto and thank the Lord above because I was having a really really rough week last week I know that a lot of you probably follow myself and and maybe even Brady on Instagram So you might have seen that our dog dog biggby who is a very regular character her on our show he's not doing too great We found sound out. That big house. some brain tumors and. So he's he's had to start some anti seizure meds but he still kickin. You know he's an old dog. tuck according to the chart at the vet He is a he's he's over sixty years old in human years and he's a big breed he's one of the gigantic breeds so You know as an eight year old dog. He's he. He's not much he's not long for this world. I don't think but If you were it kind of keeping up to date on on instagram there and saw that I just wanted to throw it out there. You know that he's he's doing good And we're GONNA make sure that he has the best fuck in life for the time that he has left and And Yeah I was. I was dealing with Adam. There's a family member that's really sick and and some relationship woes and just a whole bunch of ekki stuff and and I'll tell you this long distance thing is it can be really challenging especially when you feel so alone and I've never been more grateful than than the moment that I got a text from actually from todd and I brought his boyfriend to say. Hey what's up. We're we're back we're back on the grid and And so I was able to talk variety. I kind of informed her about everything that's going on and she's doing great Their trip is going amazing and Yeah anyway that I didn't think I was GONNA to get into this In this low intro so I will I will throw it to this week's episode Again we we don't have our normal four play segment like we usually do as brighty is gone on and not reachable So we will dive right into. Today's episode again is coming from Los Angeles. We sat down with her new friend. Nicoletta Coletta Heidegger Nicoletta heidegger. What a name She is a sexual educator and is also a licensed marriage and family therapist and and And She's working currently dissertation which which covers a topic that is a doozy will say? We'll put it that way. I I loved this fucking conversation. I thought it was incredible. Nicoletta is an absolute gem. And I will say right off the top here. Little bit of a trigger warning for some This episode includes topics such as pedophilia. NBC Alley so buckle up. Hope you enjoy it and and I hope you're all doing amazing and we love each and everyone of you we'll see you on the other side. Yeah I have to watch it. I just heard what's it called Messiah. Oh I saw the preview for that but but It's IT'S A. It's a drama is it. Yeah Yeah I don't think it's a maybe say no. No I was just waiting for Jesus comedy. That's all I was thinking we were talking about like wait a doc you know like yeah my grandma's and Osho she she was part of the like. Oh Gee whiz she. They're like at the no because she has anxiety so she didn't want to travel but her friend Mistica who got her name from Osho is was there interesting. She still a big story. Still where where's the red. Does that like get in your way. So both my parents Circassians one sort of like not neither like fundamental like like scary like. They're they're the Christians that like love Jesus and Love Massachusetts sent Sp- you know spreading or you know. This is what they have to get in your way at all with your in your relationship with your mom to like that. She's in like involved in what's migrants. My Grandma always your grandmother But no I think I think the tenants that she likes about it are things that bring bring us together. Sort of like free love and sexuality so it's more of like a I think she's cool so in terms of like your how how you got into all of this sexuality education that's came pretty natural like it sounds like your mom. I mean my parents were. My Dad is from Europe My mom is like a New York. Jewish person But they were pretty openly talking about sex so There wasn't a lot of direct or indirect sexual sexual shaming happening. So I would say more than most people I was able to like explore that that hard of my life when I look at your social social media stuff i. It's very easy full like and like natural. Within how how you present like information and like share staff I in some sometimes when I look at like things people that are educating our sexual educators online. It's like it almost feels impersonal. It's like I'm a sex accelerator. Here's the education but with you it for some reason. It just seems very like accessible uncomfortable. I appreciate we probably should save for the people that don't know Nicoletta heidegger today. Now that nailed it really feels good Nicoletta heidegger you are Dr Heidegger doctor. Too soon to be. I mean soon relative in the doctoral program sure in the next few yeah. You're you're sexologist. Yes I mean someone who studying sex okay I was GONNA say what. What is the sexologist But it's a pretty broad sexologists for having conspired there's no I don't know there's no governing body that's going to be like you can't call yourself that we are. I think it means like you're studying it in like an academic sense but I think I I think it's important that whether you can't afford it or whatever that people get education from anywhere they can be their own sexologist so I think that's where this podcast honestly we're just I was like my sex. Education was inadequate as was probably Oliver's and I needed to know some things and the only way I felt like I could do it was like because I had so much embarrassment but like talking about things that I was like. Well I have to do it as a performer. A have to do it on a microphone. It has to be it has to be have some sort of performance aspect to it because otherwise I'm just too shy and uncomfortable to talk about it and you do have a persona sort of we also have the excuse of you. We just opened our relationship and we were having a lot of questions coming in from our friends family members and we were like well. If they're all coming up else with these questions we might as well record them answer them and put them out to the world. It's like a like a template saved email or you're like well tears the Cantor Response Ya. Yeah but you also your own podcast. Yes lesson scholars. Let's and scholars. What's that a little bit so originally I mean I knew I wanted to do podcast just to reach a wider audience because my my work is very solitary as a as a therapist? So it's nice to do something that's also social and and reaching other people outside of like a confidential space And I had just gone to the SPA with a friend of mine Who was an An adult performer. And she was talking about how she wasn't allowed to teach kids or like pretty much teach anywhere just because of her history as famous porn person and we were talking about like why it sucks that you can't be a slut and a scholar because this person is also very smart and an amazing educator and I think that coupled with I had a supervisor at a place I was working at and basically when before you get licensed essences therapist you have to like meet in the consultation group with a bunch of people and go over your cases to like be supervised and so I had posted a picture on my private social the media of me wearing a friends. Sasha grey a shirt by her that my friend had made for us that said born to fuck so I posted this picture. Sure on my on my private like facebook instagram. Or whatever and the supervisor spent forty five minutes of the consultation sessions saying like how this was so inappropriate appropriate and what if a client saw it and so those two things kind of mixed together. I was like we need to talk about this. I should be able to be a sexual person and also be taken seriously as a professional. So that's how it originally got started. But now it's Kinda turned into like anything Sex Reproduction like body autonomy. Just like no shame. Yeah the anti shame podcast. I would say yeah I mean I I I I commend you for that. I think like I think that that's so important right now. Like for especially in. Ah faced just be being associated with this podcast like I've lost out on professional opportunities. Just because this guy used to it I yeah yeah and to be honest with you. I'm fucking okay with it. I'm totally okay. If someone goes yeah. We're you know we're not going to hire you because you have this great. I don't I want to be associated with whatever you're trying to do because it doesn't align with with my views in that sex should be fully normalized. You know like we. We've it's weird. It's like we're not allowed. We're humans we can talk about everything but we can't talk about grocery shopping like we do. Yeah right right yeah. I don't get it. My friend got invited to be on a cooking show and it was like a surprise. Invite that she had applied to and so she had listed me as a friend to contact if she got it and so they brought me into like set it up for her and like do everything and I worked with them to like plan all the stuff they brought me into the studio and interviewed me. And then we're getting to the last step of it where she's going to get surprised and beyond the cooking show that she loves and they were like we have gotten word that like your background check. Didn't clear and you're not allowed to be on the show. Because I had liked porn videos on my social media. It's so crazy I got cast in. What a show? That rhymes with the SCHMOOZING SH- mace travel travel around the world and try to compete and things we were starting team set up like ready to go two weeks out meet me and my best friend and they called told US two weeks before. And we're like we're GonNa cut you because Just the sponsors we termi on. Yeah like the sponsors just might not like the fact that if they google your name because it's a family show Google your name. This podcast might come up and I was like fuck you. Fuck you and your network. I don't give a shit which is crazy because I was on network SURPRI. No Yeah I was on the network like a couple of days prior like doing Canadians version of the view. It's is called the social and I was talking about like our poly-amorous talking about doctors finger in my asshole like the whole thing as one does and one Canadian. TV take and they loved it like this you put this one PM schmoozing. Smith's comes on at eight anyway. Babies are in bed. Yes yeah well. That's that's really really. What drove you to be like? What drove you to sexology? What drove you to the study of sex? I mean growing up I think I had a great therapist and she ended up kind of partway through through our relationship. Together specializing in like sex and relationship stuff so she was definitely definitely a big league. Cheerleader proponent of that for me and in terms of the mental health stuffed I appreciate it and like I said growing up I think I was lucky to have parents parents who were pretty Open and supportive around most things so I ended up being the person that people came to to ask questions of Or they would like ask my parents or they would tell me to ask them in our like sex ed classes and then by the time I got to college I ended up working at like a sexual health center on campus. Doing like peer support and We gave out free condoms and sold sex toys and people come in for peer counseling. And then I ended up getting a I was the mascot and my Undergrad. I don't know if you know what that is like. The person who dances at the football game we did you wear the costume the actual mascot. Yes I was the mascot. I was a tree this story and so my senior year we ended up having Basically someone had written like some sort of sex story and I was like I feel like I can do this better and so I ended up doing a column called sex talks with the tree and I really enjoyed that and we got a good response from it and so all those things kind of came together and so I knew I wanted to be a therapist and then I realized that that most therapists only get like one class if at all on human sexuality training so I was like even if I don't specialize in sex stuff like I need to make sure sure I know more so that therapy is not just another place where sex is not talked about my clients because it's huge right. Yeah I mean it's it's a part of all of our lives even if you're not having it so it is that a lot we talk about. Oh Yeah and we were lucky enough to find a counselor when we needed one for for things and it was just like you know it's it's you hesitate a little bit even as even as far as like booking our airbnb it's like do do we say like we're married. There's going to be a third or fourth person also present in the you know in all of the storytelling and in it. Ah The AIRBNB or in the therapy and like to find a therapist. That's like equipped to be able to handle that in a really non judgmental as I think kind of rare at least therapists. Who's also your AIRBNB? Which is why your ear AIRBNB talked Dr Host? I thought you were going somewhere else. Would ask me to AIRBNB. I was like this is like so well. Let me tell take us so you. You're you're in the world sexology and I know that You know through chatting with you before this all came to be that. Your dissertation was on something that I I find so fascinating and I find so important and I also find to be something that that really fuck some people up when when you when you bring it up but the idea of Of even saying is hard actually the way you worded it in your emails. The first time I've ever seen someone word it that way which was working with Non Offending Minor Attached Persons Aka working with non offending files. And this is something we've actually dived into on this podcast. Before and my other podcasts. Sick boy we've spoken to and I and I'm really curious to know if you know who he is. Dr James Cantor from. Yeah Yeah from Ontario him in a lot of my dissertation easing amazing. He's so awesome he he's been on boy and he's been on our podcast. Wow that's huge. John I'm so I'm so proud of you. Okay yes week because he he really like I remember when we first had him on sick boy. which is it's a podcast where we talk to people about Living with chronic or terminal disease for the most part. But it's comedy show but we also sometimes talked a medical health professionals and we got lined up with him somehow like early days of the show Joe and I remember he came on and he started talking to us about non offending files and his basically his life's work And and the you know the the trials and tribulations that he faced in in in In tackling that subject matter he totally blew my mind mind wide open. This thought that like Oh my God. Yeah I've never I've never thought of a pedophile as someone who's born with if this the Haitian and it was the first time I ever felt I felt fashion. Yeah like like a deep deep resonating compassion for for those people whereas like before that the conversation I would have been like many other people at their. I'm sure that that. Just think like the devil. Oh yeah just like three hands up and think it's disgusting and mock them all up and all all the you know castrate them and all the horrible and for him to lay out that putting yourself in that situation imagining that. You can't even get help. You can't seek help even if you wanted. How did it because you're likely lockouts because it's so stigmatized and so So hard to kind of manage that that scenario and there's no outlet for them. There's no there's no place for them. There's no path for them to seek help. Yeah for the most part and I'm glad you know and of course you know of his work. Because he's kind of like I feel like he's at the forefront I think he actually sent me some of the some of his work so that I could use it to to build on for my dissertation right so he is. He's begging in the community because it's obviously a small community of people who are interested in working with this population so some of us are part of like email groups and list serves to Share Information and support each other and You know figure out what we can do next to work within this specific topic. That's so Shame in based what drew you to that. We had somebody come to one of my a classes at my program that I went to at widener which was a masters of -education and human sexuality and they identified as a minor attracted person and and that sort of a broad thing for people who are attracted to anyone under the age of consent so pedophile is someone attracted to someone who is pre pubescent so that's a smaller category m. a. p. is kind of a general category so they came in and talk to us and I they were saying they had tried to find a therapist for over a decade And like to no avail. Most those people just referred them out with with no referrals and to me in training to be a therapist at the time I was like it's so crucial to have a standard of care for everyone that we see. But what if there is no standard of care. And what if we can't provide that but I think what really got me was thinking how crucial and important it is for for me to have sexuality and sexual expression as part of my life and how important that is for me as a human and my identity and and I'm like what if you could never act on your sexual desires I mean sometimes a fantasy is just a fantasy. And that's great but like what if there was no outlet for you to do anything about it Dot made me so sad and I think that's what that's what got me and that in combination with south Just different feelings that have come up around Age Differences for people that they're attracted to like folks who like older people when they're growing up in like age of consent stuff. So all the things Kinda meshed together to create this interest for me Yeah it's definitely a and did you like along side your peers and the people that you were going to school with did you face. Any kind of backlash criticism for for like having an interest in wanting to go down that path in my specific program no because it's a very progressive liberal sex therapy program and so every there's a few other people who are doing research like that I would say most those people that I tell at least to my face. More seem intrigued and ask questions and want to know. I don't know if that's because I'm saying it in a way. That's approachable approachable. Or they don't want to say shit to my face or both But I have posted like videos about it online and there is where I've gotten like the most most pushback people threatening me saying I should just kill myself. I'm a stupid dumb bitch like endless stuff but that fuels me. I'm like oh I'm touching a nerve here. I'm like I think I have. I have just the right. Fuck you attitude for this kind of Field full because your intention. I'm assuming is to help right to help people that have no no like or just because I like doing things. That are like taboo Abu Right. They complement each other. I I really and I think a lot of people probably come from my perspective. which was when we started talking about this with James Cantor was like I like you know I'm not one of the? I'm not one of the many. Many people have experienced any sort of like non consensual like Age Childhood Sexual Childhood Trauma But many people in my family and close me have and there are people in in my family who are offenders and it's like I have. I have always wrestled with this feeling of like well. You know like a lot of how am I gonNA forgive. How am I gonNA forgive something? First of all didn't happen to me. I'm watching potentially not more evolved but evolved humans in my family making their peace. Yes and finding their forgiveness and like moving on and all of this all the stuff which is admirable and inspiring and investigating the resort of Justice this process in response to it. But like but in me when we first started having these conversations it was like I feel like the burning flame of rage and night when listeners would reach out and be like you cannot be having conversations where it's where you're saying it's okay to be like this which is a gross misinterpretation reputation of what we're saying is like it's still we have to talk. It's a reality that you can't sweep things under the rug and expect people just like like he'll themselves like people think that if you want to support folks who need support on this topic that it means that you are pro a sexual abuse against children and I think I think just the opposite but we we live in a country. That doesn't really do like preventative. Medicine Really of for much of that and so I think to me even if you for some reason can't find empathy for people who are attracted to minors even if they have never offended. I think it's a preventative standpoint. So even if you don't care about those folks to prevent childhood sexual abuse weaned to really get to the bottom some of like what actually propel somebody to act on that and oftentimes. It's not even that they're minor attracted. There's like other things going on like power power and and antisocial personality traits and other things happening and so I think if we really do come at it from that view of wanting to protect kids But then we give no support to folks struggling with these desires like. How is that helping anybody right? Do you think that like I mean. Obviously I don't know a whole lot of the the INS and outs of of pedophilia or were attached to attachment to minors. Attract minor attraction minor but like D. Do you think that the the reason people feel that way is because there's like a lack of understanding of when I spoke to James Cantor with the thing that really stuck out to me was he was like I'm a gay male and and there was a time where where homosexuality was not viewed food as a disorder. Or you know it was seen as a choice you know. And and he he sort of pointed to pedophilia in the same way where he's going people look at this and they think it's someone who's making the decision to do this thing versus the person you can literally been just born that way. And it's the way that their brain works and that's and that's where a lot of his study went towards and when he put it that way for me. I like that was the the that was the catalyst for me having this like revolutionary like shift where I went. Yeah wait WHOA. I think thing that comparison has been pushed back on by a lot of like. LGBT folks. Sure because it's also been used the opposite way to be like. Oh well we can't legalize gay marriage. Because what's next pedophilia. Yes there are overlaps in terms of minor attraction resembling a sexual orientation and. I think that could be used in a positive way to increase research on this population. But I think folks Sir worried that it's going to bring maybe the queer community like a step back if the tour inflated because of the shame attached to minor attraction that makes sense. Yeah Yeah that makes Ah. I mean I'm sitting here going. Well that's that's fucking crazy but but also very progressive exactly. Oh Man. That's so interesting do do you. This was your dissertation. I'm where I'm working on that. That's where you're currently working on. Yeah I'm doing my dissertation now so a lot of writing. That's sort of like the doctor will come soon. which is like who knows when that's going to be done and is this what you is this? What you view visualized kind of following into your later Peter into your career as a as a psychologist I think I think so? I would hope so because I'm doing so much research on it. It would just be a shame if I didn't do something with if it but it also informs my practice so I do see folks in my office who are who are struggling with this and obviously us what I what I learned and what I researched to you. Inform the people that I work with right. Maybe this isn't maybe this is a question for after the mix but whatever I can talk about clients generally a festival. No what I was going to say was I've after we did that episode James Cantor on my other show. We had a number a number like three people that have reached out who were in that position as a as a attachment to miners who wanted to come on the show and I completely backed away because I was like. I don't know if if I don't know if I want to the like it's such. It's such a touchy piece of subject. Matter that I was like Maybe this is a bad idea for like the the the overall wellbeing of our show and I I like didn't give them that opportunity and I and I've thought about that like a lot and I I feel like a fair amount of I don't feel good about that decision because I feel like the entire purpose purpose of our show is to offer a place in a space for people who are going through something really hard to talk about it also might know that it will alienate some listener that you want to yet and I'm also into the conversation and I'm also I'm also scared about how to how to navigate the gate that conversation myself. We had a couple on. It's one of our most popular episodes but I also think there are a lot more people out there who have this attraction than I think. People want to acknowledge her road Mitt. So I talked about this on a podcast that was not a sex podcast like a more mainstream one and I think the host was a little nervous how it was going to land and they wanted to talk about it but they were nervous. How it was going to land with their with their listeners? And after after the show I got at least twenty to thirty emails from people who were either minor attracted who dating someone who is minor attracted or who were survivors survivors of sexual assault. who were like this great that this is happening? I even got letters from people who were imprisoned for sexual offenses. Wow so oh I think and these are just people who reached out so I think I think there is a I think this will freak some people out. There is a spectrum of attraction to minors especially living in a culture where like youth is so is put on a pedestal. And that's not to say that everyone like would want to do anything thing about it but I think just like queasiness spectrum. I do think attraction to minors for a lot of people can potentially be is a spectrum. Yeah Germany on will be right back after this word from our sponsors. Yeah on that technical note like I one thing I can't help but think about when this whole subject comes up is like in our culture and even like province to province Robinson Canada. The age of consent is different. So when you say like minor attraction you got you at your you got your likes diverse pre puberty. But then you've got right like this area that can be grey depending on where you're at and and what your culture is but and then there's like I don't know I. I'm not factually educated on this but I assume that there are some places in the world where I feel I feel like I've even read about places where young women like very young women. Men are totally empowered to sleep with whomever they would like to sleep with no matter their age or or their their partners age. Yeah and it's like okay. So it's an offense here if you're under a certain age but like there seems to be so much gray there and we've made a decision and we've made certain like boundaries but not that they're arbitrary but what do we do about the the fact that that like maybe. It's it's seen as very wrong. Something that has like you said it's been subjective over time and space The age of consent and and somewhat arbitrary. I mean obviously I support and I value it in place like wherever I am wherever I practice. I'm not advocating to Break the law to the harm children and I feel like I have to say that and having these discussions but yeah. I think there was a study that came out that the congress ended up getting involved in and like going after the American I think Psychological Association Because the study was peer reviewed and released in a journal but the study basically put a bunch of different studies together and it was showing how there are people who have been younger like in their teens and that they had relationships or sexual relationships with you know illegal relationships with like adult the person's but they had positive experiences and people flipped out about this research. I think Dr Laura like put it on her show and like they were shut it down because it was like promoting I guess child adult behavior but it was essentially highlighting that. There's a big difference between like a five five year old and an adult person versus maybe like a sixteen year old and a twenty five year old together and that for a lot of people. Sometimes Queer End Hetero folks included that some of their reported maybe most enjoyable sexual experiences or most Shame free Or experiences that help them learn or ones that they had when they were minors with adults. people freaked out about this study and it was like showdown isn't is it more common in Lgbtq communities than. I don't know I don't know the research on that. But they were talking about that in there. That a lot of like gay gay men had reported learning feeling okay with themselves because they had relationships with older people who could like tell them that it was. Okay yeah ship kind like a sexual mentorship of young but even even though the research was supporting this people were like. You can't shut down like it's irresponsible right fascinating. It's amazing what that kind of stuff can how that how divisive devices that can stuff can be. Yeah well Yeah I my brain is swimming with like all of this and like thinking about. I know it's a lot. It's a lot to get now. Imagine now like this is the thing that you devote your study to. You know I do like other things about the field of sexuality but a lot of research on this topic for for school yeah. Let's talk about the orgasm. Gap Big shifting. What are you on the now everything because I When I read when I read about the that when you kinda listed it out in in our our back and forth I don't know much about it but but I get the concept and if you want to research for listeners out there like research on this I would check out the work of Dr Lori Mints? She has a great. She has a lot of great great research but one of her books is called becoming clear. It where she talks about the orgasm. 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So check her out for that part but basically the orgasm gap is this notion that At least in in heterosexual like sexual encounters that men are much more likely to you know achieve or than than women by a huge Striking amount and so it's basically the orgasm gap or at least work on that is to try to bridge that gap and like Make it so that it's sex is not so penetration focused and more about the nuances of the female sexual experience Yeah Yeah right what what is like what are in terms of like the study. That's going into this like is it. How does that? How does that work? What are they are they is it? Is it mostly survey base store or like survey I believe survey based This work of Dr Lori Mints is She works at a university and so I think she Researches in some of the students communities that she works in for her research but I mean I can't speak to us in terms of research numbers but I get so many people in my office who have never had pertinent orgasms. So they're only they're only able to to reach orgasm on their own. Yeah we this is mostly female bodied people people. Yeah we've had a number of people right in to the show asking. Do you know specifically to like touching on that particular subject And and like you know we have a like a segment of show. Where we we give advice which we are not qualified to give and whenever? There's about that because I know some licensed people out there that I would trust less than I trust you guys so you know but when those when those types of questions committed I it's like I don't even know where to start you know I don't even know over to begin. Yeah well we talk about like learning your own body and learning what gives you pleasure and then like learning how to communicate with a partner and all of those kinds of things but what else is are is are are the studies showing that it is very much communication based like a breakdown in communication or are there other things just a a time commitment issue like what you just gotTa keep going uh-huh multifold I think any sexual struggle is always a combination of like bio psychosocial meaning biological psychological and and like sociological and how they interact together and sometimes it may start as like a biological thing but then it's like maintained by a social thing so if like if we think of maybe I hate using this word but quote unquote premature ejaculation. Aka may be coming before you want to. Maybe it happened one thing about it never happened have never happened. Never talked about until you felt like maybe it happened. One time like biologically because someone was I don't know who knows whatever caused it but but then because of the social pressures then it's continuing because someone feels ashamed and embarrassed so I think with the not orgasm I mean the first point I tried to work with on couples with couples or individuals on. This topic is not being so goal-oriented so while I I want to support the people to like have pleasurable experiences. Sometimes that includes an orgasm. People put a lot of pressure on that being like the defining successful thing of sex x so I just WanNa stay that off the bat me. Like emphasizing how to close the orgasm gap doesn't mean that sex has to be goal oriented but in terms of the what we're talking talking about I think it's multifold so one is our culture kind of has this hierarchy of sexual acts. So you know like the first. There's so like that. The homerun is penetrative vaginal sex or anal vaginal anal sex and so only about ten percent or less of people with Volvos. Say that they're most reliable. Route to orgasm is via penetration yet. That is still sort the scene as the gold standard of like. What is supposed to be pleasurable? So sometimes people come in and they're like well. I'm not having an orgasm and I'm like well tell. Tell me about the sex that you're having and they're like well you know we maybe do a little bit of like figuring and stuff and then we do penetration and I can't orgasm I'm like well. Are you playing with your Clitoris Harris. No and then I'm like well. Do you masturbate. Yes how do you do an old with my hand or a vibrator so off on your clitoris on your With no penetration and so often. It's just a disparity a difference between how their self measuring versus how it is with a partner so I think think that's lack of awareness and understanding about one's body lack of awareness understanding from from a partner about their partner's body and what it takes to get there. Another thing that you mentioned was time so I think this is like a social cultural and body thing but like people feel embarrassed when they feel like. It's taking you too long. They're like a chore. Why would someone want to stay there for so long like and they feel pressured and then it's not going to happen because they feel pressured and then another another factor communication? People don't know how to say what they want to ask for what they want. They feel embarrassed. They don't want to make their partner feel bad or or like if it's a male female they don't emasculate their partner or maybe they have said something in the partner's been like I know what I'm doing which is to me. Yeah thanks for your input. I'm fine south. Get there right so I think it's it's all of these things like all happening together. How much of that? I know this is probably way too but I do does make me wonder like how much of that is as stems from our consumption and and sort of like education and viewpoints from from from porn. Well as a lover supporter and consumer of Porn I I want to lift it up. Totally yeah and normalize it but porn is entertainment your done by Athletes Professional. Sarah like have you ever tried to like do a plow position for like more than two minutes. If it's exhausting so I think the issue is not the porn in and of itself. I think the issue is not having like a sex education context to make sure that people know that that is entertainment. Yeah so if people are like treating it as their sex education and like that's the only place they learn about it then yeah that becomes problematic as opposed to if we view it as what it is is entertainment like do you think the orgasm gap was like Oh I think the last party forgot to say about that is like the people. Just don't care about women's pleasure sure. Of course. Of course. Yeah that's like a small small factor to add in there but like a lot of people. Just don't care their research on it has been like no or like done by men and so it just culturally hasn't been important and so it's like oh you can't have an orgasm like sound normal to me like most people at us. They have sex with don't have orgasms so it's like a that's a huge part about it and you might have just answered my question before I could even get it out. which was I? Read your mind which was like. Do you think the orgasm gap is an issue in nineteen the three shit. Just because people just didn't fucking care it was like well no. It doesn't matter you know because I was thinking about back in that a time of like we we didn't I mean sexual. Education really probably wasn't a thing period but there is also there are there wasn't like porn where we see and like completely associate sex with penetrative based sex in but then I'm like well it was it was nineteen o one so like really the whole idea of like any sort of Research into female pleasure or pleasure for people to Volvo owning people carrying the caring just wasn't thing back then as much as not really now you look at the. What was that show? We were watching that one time about like explained or something where they were talking about like the funding. That's gone into female. Pleasure is just like zero compared to to the Viagra's Yay 'cause who cares does who fucking cares that's changing though right. It is changing but it's definitely has long ago all late. Yeah it's definitely late and also like is their question around the merit writ of because sometimes I think of what we do and the conversations we have and what my family probably thinks. And like you know you're like he living a hedonistic mystic lifestyle is is female pleasure kind of getting swept under the rug even now with with like well it goes hand in hand with whatever the wild kids are like trying to get into these days. poly-amorous like it feels like it's kind of coming in a wave with a lot of things to the old guard probably just seem wildly. I mean I think the the gap is still there and the and there's a big along way to go So probably probably I. I also live. I try to inform myself about what's happening in in other areas but I live in a in the city of La and on the coast. And and so I think and exist in a bubble of people like yourselves so I think it's hard to remember. What else is happening out there? We are in the world world. Things are unfolding a little more progressively than or or where they are. They ahead of us anywhere in the world in terms of female pleasure Asia and and emphasizing its importance or sexuality as as an important expression I actually. I'm not positive about this because I I can't speak specifically but other parts of the world are definitely doing better around like comprehensive the sex education starting earlier like you know Scandinavian countries and places like that so I imagine potentially yes but I can't I can't say I'm I'm not sure. Anytime I feel like Scandinavians are always coming out on top of everything. But it's just I can't here we let God's sometimes it's dark the whole day you know what else they have to Arctic spas. I went to Norway and it was really really. Oh what a dream highly recommended. What a dream you know it? I have a question that has pertains to the previous object is is this now okay. In unlike podcasting structure land for me to Zip back there and book edited. Pretend Assis twenty minutes ago I'm really curious. Yes but clients that. Come into your room with the Minor attachment like. What is there for those folks like? Are you know like conversion therapy was used on like people with a homosexual attraction then is like what is there for people. Conversion therapy was like a thing like an option that you worked on the God. We had that for them. Probably I mean studies have shown that people have attempted that but but the results show like no better than it did for you know people who were gay Though there are folks who still research search and talk about chemical castration so whether that be like a potentially like a physical castrating of like somebody's testicles or like taking taking medication that like shuts down Some of their like hormonal responses. That is the thing that some people do. What is that like they would use estrogen or or what is the like? They're basically trying to like cut off. The are they trying to cut off tea or like testosterone honestly. I don't know I might be a James Cantor question. I don't don't know enough about it to say because I would never urge people to do it so I'm kind of like a pro as I'm doing my dissertation I will keep you updated taste because I'm sure I will have to look into that but in terms of what I help people with it depends. What's going on for them? I think a lot of the people that I have talked to in that. I've seen have this attraction but they are committed to never doing anything about it and they also don't most of them don't feel a a worry or concern that they are going to do something about it. They just know that it exists this this. Oh not the chemistry not the chemical castration They have no worry that they are going to act act and offend against children. Right right and what I meant was like they just have a they just know that they. They know that they have this interest in this attraction and they're like but I don't WanNA harmony children. I noticed as illegal. I don't feel afraid that I'm going to all of a sudden do this So I think that type of client is very different from someone who's like. I don't think there's a problem with having sex with kids or maybe someone who's already offended Who might have some other you? You know mental health issues going on So I would. I would manage those things very differently so for someone who has an offended in his committed to to not doing anything about it to me. It's more working on Potential Shame isolation a community building and helping them find find outlets and resources as for ethical. Legal and fulfilling sexual and relational outlets. I think it's just treating them like a human being and being like what's going on for you. How can I support you? Just like I would for any other client and sometimes folks who come in without attraction. They're not coming in because they're struggling with the attraction so we might not even like talk about it as a main thing right right But most of the studies out there I think are they view people who have this attraction as ticking time bombs so they're like oh hey they're almost like they need to figure out how to prevent them from doing something which is not necessarily the case which is not in the case. This might be you know. This might be something that might be a little ICKY for people to here on the show which is something that that also should say that James Cantor Kantor. Really stresses like all this. Although this subject matter might make you feel a certain way That's understandable that's okay. That's that's that's a totally that's totally okay thing but also like come at this with a very open mind and open years and open heart I think it's so understandable that people we'll have that response because it's so ingrained in our culture and it's one of fear and fear is a really powerful feeling absolutely did you. Who are you familiar with that case of the guy up in Canada I believe is Newfoundland ordered A? He ordered like a doll from a sex doll on Japan. But it was it was like the child and they and they arrested him customs. They stopped at a customs. Open it up. Basically arrested him on. On one. On child porn charges it was basically like child. Pornography charges was like no. I'm not surprised. Yeah what is Sir is there. What are the thoughts on those types of things for preventative measures or like or whether it be an actual physical doll or or through writing or through like finding ways to stimulate or satiate the the fantasy or the desire without actually without without actually being harmed I think repression is really dangerous? Yeah and the more people. Like repress don't have an outlet like to me that's the powder dangerous whether that means they're going to do something illegal or just dangerous to them as a human being and like their soul side. I think what was the I guess. Basically like is there is there. Is there a thought or or some sort of I think people are people are afraid and so so they're worried that if maybe we give folks an outlet to legally and ethically like explore this desire that it's going to be a gateway for them to want more you and I think from the research I've looked at the people who are going to offend like this. It's going to happen happen potentially for them but the people who aren't going to offend having an outlet I think is crucial and so whether that's a doll whether it's doing like age play role play with someone of adult age whether it's looking at like anime of people who are not real erotic literature so now what whatever it is. I think having a healthy outlet and a sexual relationship with oneself is important and some people who are attracted to minors are also attracted to adults it can be a spectrum and so making sure they find folks that they can connect with. I think is crucial but yeah dolls. Dolls is one example. No but I think because of the fear that people think it's a gateway I think that's bullshit to me. It reminds me of people saying that. You shouldn't teach your kids anything besides abstinence only sex education because then they're gonNA have lots more sex doors but as we see like the more limiting you are. I think the more trouble people get into into an and they don't even have any information about what they're doing. Yeah yeah which leads to so many other issues. Yeah I really I honestly like like I have never been more happy to read an email about a potential guests that we're having on the show and to see that first thing that you wrote down. which was that this is the this is the study that you were like devoting so much of your time to you because I like I said I think it's very beginning this conversation? I think it's fucking important. Well that's an honor because like Jason James Kanter's like a hero honored to be even grouped in he's He's the man I love like. Are there other because it does seem like a lot of sex podcasts and and sex education that's like current out there is is probably you know just more broad and more like a applicable to the the greater population of people who are looking for information on sex but like are there other things lake the subject that are sort of under the radar but like a M- they're not emerging but like require some study and Investigation I mean probably a bunch of other para feelies either there paraffin any kind of any kind of canker fetish that Could lead to her Sufia with animals. Bestiality stuff Yeah I would love to get that guy in the podcast. Who wrote? What's that Book Wet Goddess Lettuce? I haven't heard of that. He's the guy who had like a like a long term relationship with adult. Oh yes I'm not advocating very interesting to see sex. I would be interested to talk to him. Wasn't the no that was a woman. The person that was doing the study about speaking to dolphins is trying to teach them English. No this was a guy who in the seventy s like how to relationship with he was a dolphin trainer. I guess and had a relationship with Dolphin and He said she came mm-hmm onto him and interesting sensual and well. Did you hear about the guy. The team that was trying to teach dolphins to English. They were trying. Learn how to communicate with dolphins and there was a woman who basically like the way that they they spelled it out. This is on stuff you should know. Maybe this American life but They had like a house built with that was flooded that the dolphin would be in and but it was also a space where the scientists could go in and try to like interact with dolphins. And there's this woman new spent a great deal for time in there with this dolphin trying to train it to communicate with her and in her words she was like it came onto me and so the jerk jerk it off every couple of days just so it would fuck in it would allow yeah. I'd release it. JUST WANNA eat my dinner. egner jerk it off. We could get to work so much criticism art dolphin to human rapes that happen. Yeah Yeah L.. Fair who is it has. That is Nikki. Glaser that has like Ono. It's Catherine Ryan. She's this comedian from Canada. She talks about. She's she's all does she. Like I you know I love men but I'm just not ready for one of them to live in my house and so she has this thing about. She's like you know talks about them like they're dolphins. She's like a a lot of them are rapists right. What's the name of looking at? Maybe the next frontier. So many topics of sex are so difficult to study because of you know finding participants but are legal and ethical stuff so there's so many limitations to all kinds of sexual studies just because and for good reason that there are like you know rules and regulations on what you can study. But I'm sure that that's the next frontier interesting. What a world we live in guys? I'm not no yeah McClennan I wanna I wanNA thank you. This has been such a such a wonderful tree. Three to sit down and shoot the shit with you for for an hour or so And I too. I knew that coming down here getting out of our little bubble up in Atlantic Canada and coming down here in and meeting. Some of the people in the city of L. A. would open up some really interesting conversations and this is for sure One of those conversations. That has not disappointed so We have myself in all of our listeners. Thank you so much for for hanging out with us. It's been really really great. 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SteamWorld Quest Scoops and Nindies Recap - NVC 448

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SteamWorld Quest Scoops and Nindies Recap - NVC 448

"Seat person. Yeah. Miss teen times had for years, and I still got it wrong. Come on, try try case Osho, do it. Okay. Let's see if I can get it. Right. So see gifts on C Siragus on. Seiu is the Jeep for sear song. It's kinda silent Siragusa on Seeger song. Yeah. Brian's here Gazon. Yeah. Brian from imaging for. All right. Let's do it. Okay. So your son see what goes on? Yeah. I hope this makes it to the actual. And welcome to NBC Nintendo podcast. I'm your host Casey defeat us. And I'm here with pair Snyder. Zach take Ryan. Well, yeah. Sure. Zach with the last name for sure. And Brian secure. Gosh. Now, I see her. Hi, that's me. I think it's now that's us. It's nothing you we trade it out our regular Brian Boitano for a Swedish brand. All right. Yeah. Exactly. Yes. He's here from image in form. He's the CEO form steamrolled stumbled every everything. Yes. All of me. But specifically about steamrolled quest hand vehicle mesh or super excited about that. And of course, all of the Indies tons of news tons of games out this week. We have way too much stock though and pair has to leave soon to go back to GTC. So we're going to try and get through this. But of course, the game developers conference or people who don't know what that is. But I'd want to start out talking about steamrolled because that's why we have you here. Good wonderful. First of all, I have a question. Sure. Why weren't you in the Indies direct this morning? It's like somebody paid off Nintendo better than us. No. We were actually in the in indie showcase. Yes. A couple of weeks back. I think they don't wanna wear out. And that totally makes exactly. So I don't want to explain your game for you. So can you do us all over and tell us your vision? And what this game is about. And how it's played short. Okay. So it's the game is called steam world quest, and it has the under title hand of Gilgamesh Achille connec Gilgamesh and the Honda because we're so s so funny, I'm from Gothenburg in Sweden, and that's the pun capital of the world. It really really is. It's. So it's. Swedish people, I'm just really gullible comedians. But yes, so hand of Gilgamesh. And so yeah, of course, because it's robot system so and it's an RPG maybe even Ajay RPG well since it's a Swedish game. It'd maybe it's an SRP in the listen Jay silent as in your name. That's it. And it's got card battle mechanics. So I would say it's much more of a JR g with car battle mechanics than a card game with RPG elements. Yeah, you want to know something funny and sad. Yes. You know on our homepage. When we when we slot content. We AB test headlines. So we test which headline works better people, click through more, and then the system automatically chooses the one that performs better, and I can hear by tell you that adding the word net. Flicks to headline always doubles, click through okay? Adding the word card to any RPG half's the click through. So you took it out. So we we obviously we were excited about your game. And when we're talking about it, we I called it the card RPG and the click through wasn't that great. Then we took the word card out and everybody clicked. Oh that crazy which is seriously. If you do that, I have an open mind, I mean, paper Mario used cards. Yeah. Right lasts on. But but maybe maybe call it an RPG, we're just gonna s RPG. It doesn't have any card. But that's right. All the cards were just it's pro record. I think the card battle mechanics, look, very, very cool. But greeting card battle RPG's rashly. We're going to talk about H Okubo mystery dungeon game later, and there's another Toko Bo game called Chokwe tales, which was a card based RPG and I loved it. I plead the crap out of that. So I'm super excited for card mechanic RPG's. But obviously, some people are worried about that can you, and I think it may have something to do with some games kind of overdoing doing the lute Bach's mechanic and all of that. Can you explain how house the card battle mechanic work in yoga? Yeah. I can do have to pay for my cards. No, okay. Okay. Lemme advertise a little bit. Then it's like you pay once and never again niche informed put to rest their right? Exactly. No, lute Bach's nothing like that. And that's why like single single player card game RPG's that you don't play with other people because like hurts hurston stuff. You have to continuously pay to keep up. Hard name. But with these games. That's where the stigma comes in though. I think I think so. Well to answer the question that I would think when we when we made steel heist. It was when we announced that a lot of people were saying that well, I don't like turn based the bat. Until they played steam with heist, and they said, I didn't know I loved turn based combat. But apparently, I do I think it's gonna be the same with Stephen with quest because the car and battle mechanics in that game. It's just so tasty. It's so image and form it's so best in the world. So yeah, that's it. Oh, that's very humble all this all this in humility to. It's interesting that you bring up heist because as sort of your first foray into turn based mechanics like I think it had people those of us that played it really jonesing for a steam world RPG. So inquest was announced not only as a turn based RPG. But also having the second layer of of strategy attached to it in a card based battle mechanic system. Does really exciting to me because you're already proven thing that you guys know what you're doing when it comes to turn based stuff. How was adding the card battle mechanic. How did it change up the way you thought about the actual like overall design? That's great question. Because from the very beginning when we when we made the game, this is kind of secret, I guess, but it wasn't a card game from him beginning and. We felt that it would be really cool to at it. I I should probably expand on that a little bit. They in two thousand eleven we made the best game on the planet called anthill. Oh, it hasn't come to the switch it. But it just might cool. And we realized then mixing jaundice was so interesting. So that was sort of a castle defense real time strategy line drawing game. And adding it was like baking a cake, and if you add a lot of like too, many ingredients to cake it's going to. Yeah. It's not going to be that great. But if you had just I mean, if you experiment with how much you pour in of everything, then maybe you hit on something. And so with steel dig that was sort of the same thing like dig dug meets some sort of metro Kelsen Vania thingy. And then you have an interesting game also with with heist like this. So we thought. Maybe this is going to work, and that we that's that's a much of the time. That's how we make our games. We we test things we run into dozens of dead's dead ends along the way. So it it always takes us along time to make ends because it on paper anything can sound really clever or stupid. But then you try it. And it might turn out exactly. The other way round something. That sounds dumb is really good was a was a card mechanic, always sorta rattling around in the back of your mind. Or was it something that somebody just tossed out like, you know, what I think this game could really use that, you know, if we need something else to achieve this balance that you're talking about here's the card base mechanic. How did that come about? So it had like a it had a totally different core. Gameplay mechanic from the beginning. I I'm gonna come back in next year and tell you exactly what that was. And but it's kind of cool to to sort of keep that secret a little bit. But it was it. It clearly wasn't working it. We had like a central sort of core gameplay thing. And it was it was worrying because. That's something that we our selves. We think it's that's that's the game. Like core game plan thing. I mean. After we have that we sort of we make it beautiful. We make it sound wonderful and so on, but if that thing in the middle there like does isn't perfect then. Yeah, the game is isn't going to be very good. So yeah, we were kind of just plotting along with this core gameplay thing, and we were. Yeah. Just worried and then the game rector guy brilliant guy called Peter, you you handsome. There's no no silent J in the name. Right. He he's he he's down one evening and said, listen this. I don't think this going to work, but let's let's go through the options. And even he's of drew up six new assist. Six different paths to sort of go forward with the game. And one was let's stay on the course and hope that we make this work, and then sort of change it a little bit a little bit a little bit. And at the very end of that like. Like the furthest away was this card battle mechanic. You said let's just change at all. No. I said, let's keep it the way it is. But then he changed it. No, we talked about it. And we decided this like this is that might just work. And it was also it was pretty good because it was easier to prototype that we could we could actually play without programming. Anything we could sort of play it by hand. And literally. Yeah. And I mean, we changed the cards get it, dad. Okay. Yeah. But we and then we had to issue it on that like tons of times as well. Yeah. If you had to compare the card mechanics in steamrolled quest to an existing card game, which one would be the most apt comparison could predict all his answers, right impairs. Your prediction KC? We would never build a game that was similar to another game on the market so case, so we would never. So that's very good. Yeah. We yeah. But it's not a bad answer. Because it's we you're welcome. Yeah. Thank you for saving me. There are a few games that have inspired Stephen quest. And if I were to rattle them a few of them off. I would like after each one I would say, but it's not reading. Okay. So it's talking about which one is the closest I think actually like there would be one or two physical card games that you play with a regular fifty two card debt that might come close. Even you'll you'll understand when you play the game. Okay. I'm excited. So Joe scrambles are UK editor was able to play and he said that it's entirely different to its forebears. It some Tena Slee accessible and intimidatingly smart and just bloody lovely, and he also said that it's more story based than previous games. Can you kind of talk about why you decided to go more negatively heavy, yo. Yeah. Well, I thanks to Joe. He's I'm yeah. I'm gonna pay him later. Well, it was we wanted to do that is with with all the games before. Like, I was sort of touching on it before that the core gameplay mechanic in in our games is the most important, but then we have like really really brilliant writers. I think and they sometimes their stuff get sort of tacked on at the end if you wanted me, and they all I think you talked about this before. But, you know, do they all herald from the comedy capital of the world or are? They international writers are the no they're all from the comedy capitol. Yeah. And they all right in English though. Yeah. You write the script in English. You don't start in Swedish. No we right in England. We don't even have a Swedish version of of any of our game, which is kind of dumb. Actually, we could we would manage right? And but yeah, they're they're there and. They're just very very smart people. I think and it or clever I should say up some of them are. Yeah. Dad jokes their rate, very highly in the office, and so on so it's we we have a we have a good time with it dad jokes like opportunity, my new job at image informed. Joe creative. That's right. We're we're the masters so yeah, it's a. We wanted to give them more space and. Ironically, it turned into this game. Because also from the from the beginning steamrolled quest was a much smaller game. We were sort of thinking that let's now we've made games that took a long time to make like steam world, heist took forever almost two years to make that game Steven will dig too, although we had like the bloop- blueprint from the original it took forever, and like some seventeen eighteen months to make that we would just everyone was more or less tired. And we said let's make a small simple game. And then we and then it sort of. Yeah. Just feature crypt into like a really epoch game. It's it's great. Yeah. And so like, we you know, I've seen the footage. Obviously from the from the showcase is there is there like an over willed where you walk around or is everything played from side, scrolling perspective. How's how's the setup? Yeah. Great. Well, everything is played from the sides of room set up with cut scenes in. Here and there. Yeah. But yeah, definitely that you don't walk around in over world. Okay. There's no switch to a different perspective. It's all like it's now is in the same setting. That's where it is. Yeah. And it's because it's sort of a it's a cohesive adventure. Like you start at one point. We had. I'm we had what do you call it like sketches of over world. And we we had prototypes of that. We just found that we're not really doing anything in the over world. We want people to to go through the just traverse knows for sure wars will say is that. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. That's it. And. Yeah. In the end, we were very happy with that also meant that we could sort of focus even more on the graphics from that perspective. Any, you know, obviously, I'm sure we'll see lots of characters from the steam World Series reappear. Anything about the enemy's any favorite, enemy designs or creatures or anything? You have in the game. Yeah. Yeah. I have a. Yeah. Really have a few actually. Everyone. I mean, everyone is a robots now, it'd be it steam world, right? So well, you hit the enemies where in this game. Right answer. There's also like magic there's. Yeah. Right. But my favorite characters is this win wims ical guy who rolled around on one wheel. And he doesn't have he has like a birdcage instead of a head man in the birdcage birdcage. There is a robotic little bird. I think he's I mean just look at him. It's like why does this? Yeah. Is it? I mean, I love that. I love being. I mean, you love your jobs, obviously. Because you you don't wanna quit. But it's the same thing how much paying. It's the same thing for me. I love my job. Just a not like walk by the art department every day. But like, maybe maybe like every two weeks or something to sort of peak over the over the shoulder of someone and just look at something that is just fabulous like something that is Wim cicle or or beautiful. It's it's great soup. But you said there's magic in steamrolled. Oh, yeah. Then happened. Well. From the beginning. A think we were aiming at sort of explaining everything like someone's dream or like like a story. But then you're writers actually found a way to put it into the the steam Lor. So it still crest is actually on the steel timeline. And that that it is actually means a lot to us because it it sort of stretches the time line for steam world, great great deal. Now, we can we can probably make at least two more steamrolled games after this because it did world building. Right. And you're going to be a lot more. So we're got to make a lot more. Yeah. Two dozen. So you basically taking off every genre box. So goes without saying battle royale is next that oh kids on one hundred robots one hundred. Yeah. Well now. Yeah. Let's see. I know what's next. Actually, you do already. What is it's I I'm not going to tell you. Yeah. I'll tell you afterwards. Okay. Okay. Does it have robots? Yes. It helps. That's great neck steamrolled hundred. So new tells maybe a window when we can expect this to come out on switch this this last you quest very good and the second one and the next month. So Stephen Quist is I mean, we were still only saying two thousand nineteen but seriously, I really I really think it's a it's a very decent game. It's a it's a really good game. And so I'm fond of saying that later than you want. But sooner than you expect. Are you almost done with again? Yep. Okay. Well, it'd be playable at Pax east. It's it's still it's already playable. You know? But it's it's if it's if it's playable in its in his final four more or not we'll leave that sort of unsettled, Koi, probably said everything. Yeah. No. That's great any anyway. Right. Well, hopefully, we'll find out more soon. So thank you so much for talking to us about those that Indy. Let's move on to mourn Indies because men there's honestly just way too many. I have a list of more than it doesn't indie games coming after in tennis witch this year all showed off at in a thirty minute, Nintendo. Direct this morning, right? And I think I would just want to talk about the biggest surprise announcement first and then move on. No. I I I see what you have. I see what you have listed here. It's I mean, it's very this is a big surprise. But I think we got a few surprises in this direct. We got a lot of this. You're right. Go ahead. Yeah. Okay. Twitter. Cadence if I rule crypt at the Necker dancer, featuring the legend of Zelda, that's quite the title its entire title our entire title. Busted already one of our displays on the website. So frigging long never do that. Okay point taken. But there are going to be twenty-five remix Zelda, tracks, iconic, enemies and items. But also spells characters and weapons from crypt at the neck road answer and it's coming out in spring and have you guys played crippled, the Necker dancer? Yeah. So the first time I played the game was at Pax east with a dance pad. So I desperately wanna play this game with the dance pad. That's fun in the office. That is my dream. Okay. So we can make that happen Casey for the uninitiated. Can you talk to us a little bit about what crypt of the Neckar Manser, Necker dancer is? Yes, the Necker dancer is a dungeon like mystery dungeon RPG set to a beat of a song. So the entire all of your movements are set to the B, and you need to maintain the beat to keep up a kind of like combo going, but to maintain that be you have to continuously move. And when you move the enemies move everything happens to the beat. So if you want to attack an enemy you have to tie. With the beat. And if you get attacked, or if you don't move, you kind of reset your timer. And then you know, to for people who haven't seen footage of either game cadence of high rule or Nicodemo it's all set on a grid. Right. The way move is like it's almost like on a chess board where you like move forward. Uh-huh. I mean, it's a shopkeeper that sings apart from the fact that first of all I'm already the art style. Almost remind variable Capcom Zelda games, like it's very playful very hand-drawn looks very different from the original game. Actually, it looks more like an intendo game. And then this is one of those caught sets that you could not have predicted first of all four, and I have a question for for Brian like this. This isn't intendo working with an indie developer and giving them their one of their most successful franchises and characters and melodies to mess with Tom Tom, and I got to talk to Kirk Scott who is the man on intendo, the Nintendo Indies project, and and we talked a little bit about what this game means for Nintendo properties. And he kind of put it in interesting ways. Like, this isn't a Zelda game by the Necker dancer developers. This is a Necker dancer game that has Zelda characters in assets in it, right? Like licensed to it. Which is really interesting because. It opens up this realm of possibility that didn't really exist before has been done. Like pretty limited. You mentioned Capcom developing oracle of seasons in ages in minneap, but outside of that, you know, I I guess Hira warriors. Yeah rabbits. Yeah. So we're starting to see more and more of this. And I wonder if this was going to be your question as well. My question is go ahead. If you guys were on any Nintendo IP, if Nintendo said, hey, you guys want any of our character sets in one of your games. What would you go for what you what you go for metro dig? What would you know? We would go for metro. Yeah. For sure, and I would give my left arm. They even left handed. So that would be really troublesome. What is it about metro way? Would you go for that one? Just so cool. Yeah. I think so. And also. Kind of goes with what we do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You have that kind of metro Vanya style setup your games a lot we understand matured Vania as well. Right. It'd be a good match. But, but I mean, it sounds like this is not just Nintendo saying, you know, like they're working with a second party and saying here here make us a metro game. Like what what if they said, Mary it with what you guys do best. What would you do? Oh, man. I mean, it guess Simmons could dig grapple hook Sam world dig salmon. Now, I'm sure we would come up with something. Really good. Yeah. Sorry. An all New Mexico. Yeah. Well, yes the punk metro. It'd be very cool. No. It'd be super nice now. It'd be super great actually SAM's Semons in the St. mold high setup with totally word the turn based like all the women. All the women is right. I mean, we got piper who is very very close to seminar. Nothing and yeah, they could sort of team up. I think all right. We'll call them. Yeah. I'll call it opens up this sort of realm of possibility like immediately in the office. People started talking about what developers would you want to develop, you know, different sort of intendo franchise titles, and a lot of people mentioned imaging form in the same breath. As metro would we talked a lot about like, I my my suggestion was like kickers goes to yacht club. I'd love to see your take on that. Yeah. But there's so many possibilities out there now. And I think that this is such an interesting first step into that. That realm, you know, that's sacred realm. Are you from goods aboard? We did we did get a Mario DDR on gamekeepers gel plan on using the bad. Dance bed. What what does surprise? That means. We get to Zelda theme games this year. Crazy. Oh, yeah. Let's should be coming out sometime this spring, and we also got another surprise and the Nintendo direct opened with this one Cup had for switch. I think has been kind of going around the rumor meal mill for a couple of months now and it finally actually happened. And the most surprising thing, I think besides the creepy. Milkman the Nintendo thanked Microsoft, the thanks to our friends at Microsoft. Yeah. For letting us I mean their butts. Of course. Yeah. The there's has there has to be like a business decision there. Right. Yeah. I mean, we're seeing Microsoft slowly moving into a more agnostic space in gaming, you know, making XBox live tool sets available to platforms outside of the XBox. Obviously co publishing always creating XBox in PC PC versions of games and curious to see where this goes. Yeah. You know, they might be predicting the box list future and wanting to become the first Netflix of gaming, I don't see why like this. This isn't a first look at a bigger partnership again, in my mind, the way that I think about Microsoft and light licensing their games to Nintendo or looking at the way that Nintendo was doing streaming in Japan with the assassin's creed in resident evil, I like the idea that Microsoft is building this streaming box. Then ten does already got one foot into the streaming pool that they're they're obviously trying out these things to see if they work Microsoft adopting intendo has like their portable outlet is so much smarter than them. Working off of their tablet line or something. Like that. Like, I think it would be so smart to have this integration kind of across the board. And it's like, yeah. You can stream gears of war five to your Nintendo. Switch like I mean, they may have looked at the market and said switches, not a competitor. It's such a different device. I mean, hardware, power wise. And maybe the switches the right place to bring some of our classic franchises. Or some of the two d games to what is obviously they make they they've made Bank on switch with Minecraft Microsoft franchise before then, you know, they allowed banjo kazoo easy on the Game Boy on the DS on and they did flight simulator on non Microsoft. Let's it's a slow build up to where we are now. Yup. Yeah. But very interesting. I again, one of those it's been rumored for a long time. But it seemed kind of improbable given that it was a moment you on XBox title at one point and here is on on. Switch already launching an April MD HR as a studio MD HR who developed is essentially a Microsoft second party student. Right. So it it's really interesting. Would love to have been a fly on the wall during their conversation about like, hey, by the way, you know, we've been talking about your game as an exclusive to XBox for the majority of your development psycho. But what if we put you on switch as well? That's wild. Like, it must've on those guys minds. You know, it I I really think so it's and also for the studio to to get that opportunity because I think it's going to be fantastic handled game. Yeah. I can't wait. Yeah. So yeah, you know Cup had if you don't know about Cup head. It's a two d side scrolling very challenging platformer shooter described that star heroes. But it has really beautiful hand-drawn graphics. Looks like an old cartoon nineteen thirties. More than any game in the history of games. It looks like a cartoon complete with little film, rip lines and dust on the lens and all it's really well made. And it's also very challenging. Yep. So look forward to that comes out on April eighteenth on tennis Lynch. And so the next game that they showed was stranger things. Three the game from a bonus XP. It's going to have local co op twelve playable characters and it comes out on July fourth the same day as the season three launch. And I guess it's meant to be played alongside season three. Do you mean that? I mean is it is it going to unlock or? We get all the episodes at the same time. I think maybe it might extrapolate. I'm just completely guessing here. It might extrapolate on some of the season. Maybe some extra details here and there, but they're telling you to wipe weaken clean because you're going to be spending all weekend playing the game and watching stranger things just just look at it. The trailers that they've shown for strangers things the game trips me out because it's just like Joyce. And I forget, the the the cops name just rampaging through buildings just beating people up and that the kids have bats and stuff like while. The third season's really taken a detour here. They're all grown up to people and building. It's so weird format. It feels like they would have been a, you know, like if you look at the timeframe that stranger things is set in like it's weird that they didn't just adapt. The look and feel of the games of that age. And instead went with this weird isometric game. Yeah. Like, it would fit much better with an any style. Tom, Tom, Marcus has had a great observation about stranger things in that it feels he he got to play. Indies event. He said, it feels a lot like the goof troop game on super Nintendo. Okay. Which was like a really great game. Just really different. So. Yeah. What are the other thing? This is going to be a Nintendo. Switch council exclusive. So I guess it's gonna come out and switch PC. Okay. Only could come out on net. Flix? Yeah. Who knows? Yeah. That's very true. And the next game that they brought up in the unintended direct was the is Red Lantern from Timberline studios. And I know that we are all very excited for this one. And it's basically a sled dog survival game, you clean is a woman who's trained to reinvent herself. So she makes a goal to get a van get dogs go to Alaska and complete. The did a road. I did a rod. Thank you. Which is a sled dog race that takes weeks. Yeah. The Alaskan wilderness. Yeah, I brand I actually wanted to ask you if you ever raced any sled dogs have actually say everybody does that in Sweden. Yeah. Weekends. Yes. Right. I think you're lying. I'm not sure. But actually up north in Sweden. We have these dogs led. But we have sled races. We're yeah. You should see those everyone owns one. I guess that's not true. Okay. Almost everyone. Almost everyone owns a sled like that. It's the it's an amazing piece of engineering completely has no motor anything like that. You just push it. It's like little wooden sleds that we know from like Christmas movies this California. Yeah. Right. Yeah. From us a little bit biggest. But we call them kicks because you sort of kick it as you go on. And there are some serious kick races. Yeah. That's awesome. Well, this is not that game as actual dogs in it. And the the first thing that came to my window when I saw it was fire watched the art style, it's kind of partially cell shaded, looking a really vibrant colors. You know, all the sunsets. And the snow and all that the nation. It's really good. So it seems like it's a really cool story driven game narration from the beginning. Just really drew me in. Yeah. It's a touching trailer. Yeah. They did it really good tongue down my heartstrings for sure. So the the trailer doesn't do a great job of describing what this game actually is. It's not playable at GDP. But we we sat down with timberland studios and talk to them a little bit about what the game is. And it's it's an open world exploration game. Basically, you get knocked off course by any number, of instance, conflicts. Right. So like in the trailer, we saw a bear attack. But you could break your sled and fall off a cliff or you could knock yourself out on a log that's fallen over a tree could fall on one of the dogs or something like that. Ultimately, you get knocked off course, and you have to figure out a way to get back to civilization, but you have to care for your dogs and care for yourself along the way, and there's like over some kind of like over one hundred per mutations of things that can happen along the way. So each playthrough is different. It's almost like a rogue like. But there are like specific story beats that also happened along the super interesting idea. I think it looks really really cool. I'm very excited for it. And the next game that they talked about was called rod from double fine and published by BanDai Namco, which is interesting, so Tim Schafer joint. Yes. He was actually he was in the direct to make a pun saying that just little cameo read. But it's a three action rogue lake we're radioactive toxins will mutate your character comes out this summer and in the trailer. We kind of saw a trailer a guy movie around attacking things and fighting things and picking things up and then have his head mutate into a snakehead or like get wings or get a weird job. Yeah. And at the end of the trailer, they showed them like, okay. Like you've grown this kid shows promise and him entering some sort of structure that weird. This game is also not playable at GDS's far as I know. So I haven't been able to play it even though I really want to double fun is oversee develop or develop it with a good sense of humor. The they've consistently developed very very funny game. I like I like the way this looks it looks like it looks cartoonish. It looks like a classic kind of like supine ES like overhead shooters like, you know, zombies killed killed my neighbors twos. Yeah, I'm digging it. And obviously rat is a pun because it's all radioactive just to explain it. But it's cool. Like, you said, I mean, double fine kind of own the space of humor, you know, that you're going to respect the humor when you play this up. Uh-huh. Yeah. Excited about that one too. And another game that I has gotten a kind of a lot of buzz in the offices Kettani zero from devolve or digital I played this game at the Indies showcase just a few hours ago. And it was really cool. And my favorites features that you can't kill the cat. No kidding. But they actually do make the animals on kill Bill that game. But you play as an assassin named dragon. And you get orders from your employer who sends you on these missions. And at the end of every mission, you go home, you drink some tea, and you see your therapist, and it has a lot of different mechanics. Besides just the side scrolling action, which is really cool and awesome. But there are conversations that you. Can have an interrupt the person you're speaking with and that affects what happens later in the game. An it just has an interesting story and really cool. Really fun gameplay. Did you did you get to play out? No, I didn't play this one. But I have heard a lot about it. And just like the the slow the time slowing mechanics the way that the the whole premise of the game is that you have pre cognition, right? So that you can see what happens before it happens, but you play through those sequences, and that's using the future. So when you die you go back to the beginning of a room and have to go back through it. So you're learning enemy patterns each time and everything every enemy and yourself. You're all in a one hit kill like one HP scale. So you really have to make smart decisions. And yeah, it's it's really really interesting comes crazy. Violent comes on the same day. Well, not not in the trailer. Right. Oh, no. It's it's pretty bloody. Yeah. Oh, which one there was one game that that has violence usually and didn't have it in the trailer was that read, no. Blood routes. Oh blood routes. That's right. Yeah. I think they just kind of turned off blood, which is awesome. It's fun. That blood routes is great. So zero comes out the same day as Cup head April. Getting a little busy. Cool in April that isn't that? I am definitely going to get when it comes on. And they want to beat it and figure out what's going on with that mystery. It's really interesting in the game is so much fun. She's a giant list. Casey. I know. Well, it was thirty. It was the longest Indies direct. They've had. It's thirty minutes long. There are a ton of games. We can just go through until we get here. Nuclear thrown from flam beer is coming is available. Now, it's polka post-apocalyptic rogue lake top down shooter super crate box from flam beer is eight tennis which version is going to include exclusive two player coop and comprehensive and competitive multiplayer making up where it's also April. So April April games to to March to Lambert. Arcade is going to launch with ultra bugs, and it's going to continuously evolved with more games as time goes on collection of small games. And that releases later, it was a cute idea. I thought game that keeps on changing just keep getting getting more as it goes. And then the next one is another devolve digital game. My friend Pedro in. Champion Anna named Pedro, my friend. Pedro if you haven't checked it out like you need to look it up. Have you seen this game? A haven't. It's unbelievable. So you play this like hitman who has and you meet a talking banana who like walks you through each level, of course. Yeah. But the whole the whole mechanic is you have a you're constantly doing backflips or like rolling or jumping over people, and you can slow down time, but you can also track to enemies at any given time or ricochet bullets off of stuff. And so watching somebody that knows how to play this game play. It is like watching like a premier ballerina dancing through. It's like watching Neil in the may avoid tax. It's like that. Yeah. It's really cool. Yeah. It's a super Super Bowl game. It's really really funny. Thankfully, not in April and June. Yeah. And next one Zack were you when he was excited for this creature in the well creature on the well. Okay. I the play this. Yeah. Creature in the wells. Probably y creature on the wall in blood, which are the two that really jumped out at me at the showcase. Creature in the wall. Specifically is this top down like, hyper light drifter, but also make it pinball. So you're dashing to avoid enemies, you're running around these open spaces, but you're also ricocheting enemy bullets and projectiles can power up kind of link when he returns again inspire at the end of Zelda game. Yeah. Superfund really like fast paced in and you you there's a lot of things that you can do in this game. Not unlike hyperloop drifter where there will be rooms with these really intense puzzles to solve and you can just blow right past them. If you want to you don't have to solve them. You can go into the next thing to complete the main objective. But if you can wrap your head around how to solve those puzzles, you get rewarded with like really cool gear or you know, like bonus life like stuff like that. So it's it's really interesting. There's a really cool like risk rewards situation. So do you do that sort of in real time? Then solve these puzzles. You can't really stop. And so essentially every room is a puzzle. Right. So the way that like think of a pinball table where you've got bumpers a raid in like say. Semi circle so enemies. We'll shoot projectiles at you. And you have to position yourself to bounce those projectiles at the bumper is to power up, the, you know, like the these areas that opened the doors to get you to the next area. So in some cases, these rooms are like, there's no enemies. There's just the puzzle itself, but the doors are already opened for you. So you can run into the room and see that there's others puzzle to solve here or you can say I'd rather just get to the boss and get to the next area. So it's all, you know, like, do you spend the time to solve this puzzle and get frustrated which I admittedly or an end like get a potentially really cool power up like the one I got gave you a laser sight on your sword. So you could see exactly where you are ricocheting your your projectiles to or do you just slam through it and get to the next area? It's it's super cool. It's developed by two dudes. It looks amazing. Like, yeah, I'm really excited for this game. Nice. Not releases the summer, an ecstasy blaster master zero to surprise also we we didn't know. Equal works. And that's available now. How did they do that? I think I think they small studios where nobody leaks the gift that they're working on oh clever. People. How did they do it? They do that more. They live in the most remote nation on earth. You know, somewhere where the sun don't shine. And nothing gets you know, now, the developers do that forget it's from inti creates so blaster master zero was obviously, obviously really cool revival of the classic. And this one this one seems to continue in that same set where you have, you know, site scrolling kind of vehicular shooting action, and then the more kind of top down perspectives with a zoomed in view. So to showed that in the trailer. So when did the original come out switch launch? Yeah. Right. So last well, the the original originally the original original was in any s. Yeah. Okay. Yes. All right. Yeah. Blaster master zero was launched. I think day and date with the switch or maybe just a little bit after. Yeah. Yeah. Super Bowl game. And we also got to see a little bit of pine which looks like an open world adventure game gonna come on August. It's by congregate in twelve mound. And it showed a guy with bone arrow with some FOX people, interrupting a battle between some alligator people and elk people. Seems interesting, but it looks like an open world you have bone marrow. You hunt you have to intervene with different kind of tribes around. It seems cool. But I also didn't get to play that game. I don't think it's it's at GDP. But hopefully, we'll be able to play it eventually, and then next is blood roots by paper colts. And now, we're Superfund game blood roots rules, and I learned it's cold blood roots. Because so as you're playing dying is part of the game, you're going to die. It's when you get killed with one hit you kill enemies with one hit. And when you die you leave a patch of white flowers on the map, and that's called blood roots. And I guess these flowers if you break them open, they are like a dark red orange dye that can be used as like body paint. So that's even the games, I know in real life in real life thing. Thank you know, blood roots are a real thing. And they grow people die. Made up, but it's a it's violent western revenge tale where you can use literally anything as a weapon, and I think my favorite was picking up a fish. And then I also did that. Yeah. That was the best. I also kept getting confused as to which which was the pickup and drop button in which was the attack button. So there was early on. There's a tough enemy like in the first map that killed me. A two dozen times. Like just kept wiping the floor with me. And there was just a field of these white flowers around him by the time. I got past him was bad. But now the the different weapons all do. Really cool interesting things, and it seems cool to find your favorites into see. What does what I think? Like the ladder. You could twirl around here we somewhere gives you a dash. Yeah. Strong you can interact with the canon that shoots you up. And if you like aim it as you come down, right? You can kill multiple enemies at the same time. It's really cool, and it's just kind of like a small level bay. So they put you in a small area, and you have to defeat every enemy in that area before you can move onto the. Oh. And then we also have a overland by Finn g it's a turn survival game. It comes out this fall. I think this one was at the indie showcase that either. If you get to play it, I did not get to play this one either. But. No. What about dark wood Tom played dark wood and said, it was really cool. But yeah, this kind of game like. The survival horror like the top down thing. Yeah. I don't know. I have a hard time getting into that th- in this. I like the way this looks. So this this like dark art style to me where it's like everything is sort of candlelit or like, you know, I just doesn't do anything. You don't like the don't starve games. Now. This is like you have you eliminate the darkness with your flashlight? So you can only see part of the map most of the time. And there are these it seems to be a kind of different from most most of these dark games where the enemies are slow in lumbering creepy in your constantly turning around to check what's behind you. And it's not like this super fast paced adrenaline game. It's really it's literally right. Maybe that too Wimpy. Okay. Sorry. That's all right. Wendy, not for that. And then they also talked about Neo cab and Thomas tell me that this has been playable in a few different places, but before GDP, but I was able to play it. And it seems like there there's some. Features that Tom hasn't seen before. But it's an emotional survival game about Lena who's the last human driver in like a futuristic take of San Francisco. And so it's called a Los Los Ojos is a fictional city. But I was able to talk to the writer Paulo Rogers. And she said that she's from San Francisco shows she full she pulled very heavily from her experience living in the city. And this is her take on what the city might be like if they take automated tech too far. Right. And you're like the last human driver, right? Yeah. You're you do ride share your Newburgh driver in the future where there are no self driving cars, and there is a corporation called Capra, and they basically lobbied to get rid of all human driving cars because they're dangerous and cars are dangerous. And then there is a rebellion group called Roddick's, and they will respond to people's calls. When capper does something that like, for example. Well, I played an instance where Capra car ran over some dude on a bike, and he called Radic's, and they came in the destroyed the Kappa car. But it's dialogue. It's a dialogue. Heavy story driven game where you are trying to balance keeping yourself happy, keeping your writers happy, and then also not getting noticed by this corporation. That's watching you while trying to find your friend who's missing, but you still have to make money. I mean house you're gonna pay rent. Right, right. Let me it's interesting like this. It's almost like a like a text driven adventure. Graphic novel or something like that. And just kind of speaks to the variety of games that are available on switch, and how Nintendo is really going out and finding these sort of diamonds in the rough in all genres. I think it's the it's really cool to see something like that in of these event. Also looks really pretty anything. One of my favorite features is that. So the main character is wearing a bracelet, the kind of monitors her emotions, and it changes color based on what she's feeling, but instead of treating anyone emotion as bad or like, you're playing Brong it says specifically all emotions are valid so just because you're in the red. And you're feeling intense. Angered doesn't mean that you're playing the game Brong, for example, when I was playing I was really angry at this guy. My car who was with a woman, and because I was angry I unlocked an extra dial up option that let me stand up for the woman. So it does things like depending on your mood. We'll carry over to the next drive and change your dialogue option. All these little known. Fact, you can always tell what kind of mood Peres in based on the color of the joy con that he puts on his switch. That day. That's right. So yeah, that's right. But you can lie to everyone but choosing the wrong on. But yeah, Neo cap comes out this summer. It looks cool. There's also swim sanity by decoy games. Which is a multiplayer underwater shooter there's cope and versus modes online and local and that's also coming out this summer of Luca fishy radius. Fishy. Fishy gradients what is not like a like a side scrolling shooter. But the it's fish themed. Okay. Yeah. I didn't get to see this game or play it. It's it's got a it's got an interesting art style not sold on it yet. But it looks like there's a lot going on with really big enemies and stuff. I I would love to play it at his multiplayer too. Yeah. Party game. Right. So brian. What were your three top games? Showcase. Okay. So you have to you guys were on an airplane probably win the well, actually while it was on. I was in in constant meetings was this so. Been here since Sunday, and he was telling me they're kicking back in the park ride in electric bikes. So he has not been that difficult. Well about this. I mean, first and foremost for me it's Cup hit. It's going to be really interesting to see how that is. When you when you play it in bed on your handheld. That's yeah. That's going to be. Great fun. Also, I'm really interested in. Well, obviously, my friend Pedro a sentient banana, I knew you'd like that. Once it's going to be it has to be great. And also, I was I was intrigued by sorry. I'm I need so. No. But the this is very long, right? It's it's super long the what was the name of the of the dog slit of lead lantern. Yeah. Horse the junky mo- movie. But let's see right. You'll game. No. That just sounds like fantastic. Good. Oh, yeah. Mine creature creature in the well. I I think I love that that hyper light drifter. I think is one of the best Indies in the last ten years five years, maybe. But I I really like what what creature shaken up there. I really like blood routes a lot. I think is so fast paced and kind of wild and crazy, and I also chose the Red Lantern because I think para said, they're giving off heavy fire, watch vibes. So. Yeah. For me. It was pretty clear cadence of high rule exulted fan, obviously. I just thought it looked. So it's so cool to have a different art art style. Take on all these classic Zelda and AMIS to to see how they translated them is just really charming the Red Lantern. Love the way, it looks love the narration, and the the storytelling the feel to the game, and then creature in the well, I love pinball, and this just a really cool cool. Take on the camera that I don't think we've seen like that good spirits fear like us that mechanic, but it was more of a ten. Game in this is like an action puzzle games like constant multiple game. That's really cool. How about you case? So I'm obviously cadence fire rule. I'm sitting here excited for that. But if we weren't counting that I feel like it's it's almost unfair. Is it not ok well, the Red Lantern, of course, Neo cab and Katana zero me three not counting. Cadence. Have you been able to play in games weren't in the indie showcase did you see? What do you play anything where I played scale? Boy, it's from a small German team and Febres is bringing out here. I it's a coincidence. I didn't know surprise mmediately ran there. And we the German was on our leader who developer conference. You know, the, you know, I just thought of it because they also brought a spirit sphere out. No, they're working with the different develop on this I- skull scale boy with any is best described as paper Zelda. I okay. Paper, Mario and sake. Like, you have a sword. Or I mean, you have different weapons you can hit your enemies like, you know, skeleton stuff it's very Halloween looking the whole game. And the characters are kind of flat little, you know, little little cards almost and it it it's it's an action RPG you explore areas. You can jump. You can hit things you can take like when you kill an enemy. You can take parts like the head or the body and you take on different traits. So like if you kill a crappy enemy like zombie. And you take the head you health actually goes down because ambi- as we all know don't have a lot of health list. Right. Yeah. It's really charming kind of not it it really feels like a like a like a Zelda game done paper. Mark. That's also I don't know how deep the RPG mechanics are in it or whether you you're ever get out of this castle into a bigger world. But what what I played. I really liked. That's coming out soon. Brian when you come to someone like GDP, do you get an opportunity to go down to the show floor and like actua-? Early. Go hands on with games. Or are you just constantly in meetings? And I'm pirate asks there. Exactly, I'm very much in in meetings. But so far I've only had time to play one game. And that's that's from studio called mighty yell in Canada. Started by one of the guys behind the game run. Bo. Oh, yeah. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm he's gonna kill me now because he let me play it. And I can't remember what the name the name of the game. But it's it's a really cool game about about being con artists. Oh, and sort of what do you call it like dialogue driven game cool. Disgrace. And it's yes called something. Like that the the big the big corner something I've got. Yeah. That's that was great and tomorrow. I'll have time to walk around the show floor and play a lotta nice. Yes. I I have to I have to admit though, in between playing some of the games that GD. I busted out captain toad became field. See, yeah. I keep on solving little puzzle challenges so good on the game. But as we can have on the go, you have to go I really have to have a meeting at the game developers conference. And it takes about twenty minutes to get there. The German developer's conference I have to go to the German developer's conference. Helpers conference. I am ironically meeting with a German veteran. From games. Come. You know, we want to obviously be at games come again this year. So I will it was wonderful seeing you guys, and please please enjoy the show. Thank you. Don't talk about me. Should we just the worst? Leaving in the middle. And should we jump ahead to question block, you think man? Yes. I did want to mention world next door which is a game coming on March twenty eighth to the switch. I was able to get some hands on with it. It's like a narrative RPG where you can choose dialogue options. But also an action puzzle game where you are moving puzzle blocks in real time to cast spells to attack your opponent who's also moving around and real time. It was really interesting and cool. And I liked it a lot gosh. There's we'll talk about news next week. But yeah, let's just skip ahead question block away. Let me just mention okay out out. Now this week took was mystery dungeon everybody. It's a random dungeon generator. It got an eight point four when the original we version came out, and we also got unraveled to which originally came out in June ninth last year, it's going to be twenty bucks. Got completely miss. It. Unravel was even coming to right. Yeah. Coming to switch, and then there's also platoon to special special demo from March nineteenth through the thirty fifth and. If you get it you also get access to a free seven-day trial to Nintendo online. And then if you choose to purchase the full game within that demo you get twenty percents off, so yeah. And then also Toroc sixty four port. We talked about that a bunch comes outta Martine. It's twenty bucks. So question block. Yeah. Let's do it. All right barrage. Joshi I don't know how to pronounce your name. Sorry. I'm jay. That's my my one terrible skill is pronounced financing. I'm the worst everyone. Just put your my name from now to get back at me. I give you permission. I have a question for the most fun game ever questioned block on the NBC podcast with Google Sadia almost here. How do you see Nintendo thriving? What does it mean for Nintendo hardware and software, by the way? Love the show have rated five stars in itunes. Thank you. And also to add onto that. We'll intendo be willing to work with say data streams games. What do you think? Brian. You actually saw stadia. I did. Yeah. And you had an opportunity to do low hands on. I did. Yeah. Today. It was. So I lied when I said I only played one game. So I actually did a bit of essence on there. I think Nintendo is going to thrive. Anyway, it's. Nintendo is Nintendo like the community is so strong. This is I think stadia looks fantastic. I think but it's going to be competing for another type of audience. I I actually think so so yeah, think stadium is going to be great. And I think Nintendo is going to continue to do great. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. I doubt that intendo would like venture too far off their own hardware. You know what? I mean. Like, it seems to me like they're doing streaming stuff. They have been experimenting with that. You know, we've seen assassin's creed in resume will seven I think already mentioned that on the show. But like I can't imagine that they would do like development for a specific. I'm paddock or hard either. I think they're very protective of their own games. Right. And the. Yeah, you remember I mean at one point people were saying that Nintendo should definitely put all of their games on mobile. Yeah. I remember them. They did. Didn't. I mean they've done. Yes, sir. All made for mobile Koreans. Exactly. Yeah. I don't think. Yeah. No one's going to sort of just sway Nintendo into doing stuff easily and just a backup real quick stadium. Is Google's new streaming platform and just do clean and their whole platform is that you'll be able to play games immediately. No download times or anything from any device already owned like on your TV on Google Chrome cast or on your phone, tablet, whatever. And I think they showed doom and product stream last year was kind of a test with assassin's creed odyssey. So yeah, I agree with you is I don't think Nintendo would be willing to work stadia on that up to that point. Yeah. But they're gonna define they'll be fine. And from Sam shoe mature Brian was at great guests last time. I would like to ask him how he thinks switches impacted gaming overall in the past two years. So I think. I don't know. It's doing in the US actually the switch. But in Europe, I know it's student. Really well. Yeah. And so. It's definitely impacted gaming. You can see. From developer standpoint. I all the developers. I know are asking me questions about how to get on the switch because they all want to be there. It's it's you can also the the lineup yet today. Casey. I mean. So many awesome games are coming to switch. So I I think it's it's had a huge impact. I'm for me to to because I I really get to play in my living room. My kids hog the TV all the time. Right. The when I get to plays like in bed, and then I found the switch so. Yeah, I think it's just it's definitely it's impacted a lot. Yeah. I mean, I think we we talk about how the switch has impacted games every week on this show. So I, you know, like, I I feel like our opinions are pretty clear in that regard. Like, it's you know, I think my biggest learning this week just around GD has been just how dedicated to Indies Nintendo is in the same way that that steam and to a lesser extent, PlayStation vita revolutionized the way that people have access to independent games in development and give independent developers. A real platform. Nintendo is taking. Thirty plus years of experience in development and publishing and applying that same philosophy in same cultivation to independent games and really putting spotlights on games. Like like, you know, an entire thirty minute, Nintendo. Direct dedicated strictly to indie game saying like, hey here, the games that that we intendo. The most prolific gaming company are looking at and you should too. I think that's the biggest thing for me. It's really been elevating Indies far beyond the Ben. Chrome Nick's next question. So next we have three I have three questions from Nintendo podcast forums on Facebook. And the first one is from David Barbara. He says will you ever remake the first team role DSL game. Yeah. I think so it's a and they're going to kill me in the office for saying that, but but I want to do it. And the main reason is that it's it's there's such a cool little story behind that game. We we had no intention from the beginning that that we're going to highlight robots. It was actually it was totally accidental. The robots were the bad guys in the humans with good guys. And then just doing lunch one day. Someone just said, wouldn't it be more fun? Just quirky. If it was the other way around and then after that like when we'd put that game out. We started really talking about steam world. Yeah. We wouldn't have been talking about steam world if we just kept it. So it's like these two pivotal moment. You can't feel it. But actually one lunch hour sort of changed their objector of your company. Yeah. Totally really. So it's just for historical reasons. CB it would be great just to bring it to the switch. Just we have it there. Yeah. It doesn't have to become like a sales success because maybe doesn't deserve to be. But it'd be great for for everyone to at least be able to sort of watch trailer from head or something. It's interesting because that are honestly kind of pivots off of the last question about you know, like what is the switch impact over the last couple of years. It's also an awesome preservation machine. You know, we're seeing so many frigging Turok just came out on it. Right. Like Toronto's a game that was unavailable. Locked on one system for so many years. So yeah, that's really interesting that you would remake just for the simple fact of having it readily available yet and. Last question, you can make the answer shorter you want, but it's from a manual Luevano. And it's what other formats are Jonah. Would you like to test on the steamrolled series racing? Would be cool racing. Right. We're I think we're just gonna keep experimenting. Yes. It it's such a great world to have because robots. You don't kill robots like they get damaged, but you can sort of fix them. So it doesn't necessarily have to be terminally violence at any point racing. I'm sure I would I would I would really like to make steel chess. Okay. Some sort of battle chests remake but with robots. Yeah. That's really cool. Brian. Thank you. So so much for taking time out day to come on NBC. I really appreciate it. Thank you sack as well. I know you had to out there. Yeah. 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Where Were You Born?

Yokoji Zen Dharma Talks

59:48 min | 5 months ago

Where Were You Born?

"Welcome to the yo. Koji then mountain center podcast every month. We share at least one new talk on the practice of zen buddhism at c. m. c. dot org slash podcast. You can also find us on itunes spotify and all other podcast apps if you find the talks to be valuable. Please consider supporting you'll koji by donating at c. m. c. dot org slash doni. We rely on your support to continue sharing this life-changing practice thank you. We hope you enjoy the talk. Good morning just had my second second. Show the pfizer vaccine. I smoke a little under the weather cold so anyway so it we go case. The t to of kills of the book of activity kilson state of mind preface to the assembly. The ocean is the realm of the dragon who sinks in emerges tranquil spoilt. Heaven is the home of the crane who flies in kohl's perfect freedom. Why does this exhausted. Fish remain in the shallows or a should sluggish bird live amongst the is there any may measure of of gain a loss to be made of this the main case attention kilson ask simone. Where were you born the moment replied you province key ocean said do you think of it. The moung said i think of it. Always kjeldsen said. Subjective thoughts is mind objective thought is the environment therein. There are such things as mountains. Rivers the great Towers buildings people and animals reflect on the mind. The things isn't something that the monks said as far as that. I don't see anything. The toll kills in said a belief. That's all right as a person. That's not all right. The among said osho priest do you have any particular instruction he osen replied to say. I have something particular on not misses the point. As for your view it reaches only one mystery in taking a seat wearing the robes. Observe it for yourself later on the appreciates reverse embrace without separation fly without impediment gate and fence tower high barrier unchain way heavy when drinking is abundant the guests go to sleep. When the bally's off full the pharma is destitute. Shooting in the vast sky the wind flaps the grew to birds wings stamping the waves in the blue sea. Thunder sends off the sporting dragon anyway. So that's the that's the case just about all of it breath it is kind of interesting. Just a bit of background is a kills and was was all. His nickname was little shaky mooney so he had he had a really good insight and he had a really good function to In this one this show. Some of his is great talent. Obviously when you're talking with somebody who who has an interest in in your practice in you'll In your life what you do you know. It could be tea. Ceremony could be could be soccer. Could be playing musical instruments. Anything like that is a lot easier to toilet with someone that has that has interest quite often with people is the understanding a little bit of say the theory of san then they wanna stay within that theory rather than act expressing the truth of of their own life as as it occurs on a on a momentary basis and this is a good example of this this this particular monk he Well obviously kilos is the one who actually tests him in this case and obviously with sir teaches that's fairly common. Just just go and ask the question so attention kiosks asked a monk where we will the mung replied you. Province kiosk replied. Do you think of it when he goes. I think of it always. So there's there's obviously an interest in ordinary an ordinary way of being that from this from this particular monk is when when your ass where you're born usually you just say that you may you. May you may have a story around it And then than do think of it quite often. yeah. I think of it and then kills and goes on. I mean that's that's actually a nice. It's just a nice segue is just the very very naturally in that respect. I'm now we have to remember the the the barriers that a lot of people Think around san they think is not not not around thinking you know it's like maybe create a blank state of mind. One studies attained that. It's very difficult to actually let that go. But the the lucky things the look look thing about function daddy. Life is the life is always demanding that we We function in many ways. You know when we when we look at the function that we do you know we have. We have jobs. We have talents. We have we have hobbies. We we do all. We have a broad sphere of maybe cleaning cooking driving taking care of kids taking care of people who are less fortunate all of these things that we do we take care of ourselves. All of these things occur. We don't really think much about those things just do it. So kills announces him and many ways he sets the trot right here so he said So subjective put his mind objective. Thought is the environment. May this obviously is worth looking at. It's not someone that can really really talented. You know about those things as like if you look subjective thel how how am i doing. How is the day watts You know a mclane am identity all all of those things that re- revolve around what's occurring now and it's very beautiful thing. We do that. We take care of ourselves. We take care of people around us and then the objective thought is is environment he says in this case so if we look at that and we start to think about our environment you know quite often. There's a description of that environment how that is and again. you know. there's no problem with that is the that's what we do. Human beings we describe our environment. We engaged with our environment. We see how we can best deal our environment and again. This is no real problem that but quite often as human beings is the because of certain teachings that are digested. It's just like thought is wrong. I shouldn't be thinking so if my if my zan is very filled with thoughts and our poll. i've heard it over and over his the it's The people say it's bad. Suzanne and i mean way you get that from I don't know but obviously that's an idea. The comes up which is a different kind of fool. Ideas are very creative in many ways but in direct experience of of a this mind and the thoughts that go on you can see that none of these thoughts a- permanent we may think about something or somebody but other things always enter in. It's like the mind of she can toss when say the mind. I mean the the whole sphere basically of our senses which includes subject object on the process of doing it when you really look at how that functions is pretty clean. It's pretty clear there's no real problem with it is when we start to bring in discrimination of their various kinds the dan. We've got to be very careful with that because quite often without discrimination we take it as being real now this. This is the good thing about this. This monk is that a one level into into the evidence of things that and that's the next the next paul which i'll go into but at the same time is not really natural. You seem to into that. Entrance is a big chance that he may get stuff. That as as i've seen you know many With with many people come to the center. There's a sense of clarity not much thought going on and the direct interaction with environment more way or another then dot experience begins to fade like everything there is the mark existence call him permanence and that dot experience then begins to go into the background. But if it's a true experts you can throw it away because you you always know. Is there the background of all interactions. That vast and empty is that whether i like it or not doesn't matter and that way nothing to be afraid of nothing. Nothing to be precious about the is doesn't need to be held onto no matter what you do. That's always that now in the hot having said that is the makes makes it a lot easier to to make decisions simply because you're not focused on self interest in oneself. Now that's the important part of keep on putting the on one side which usually try tends to places in a position like many people like we did. The oxygen pitches and people will say you know where. Where do you stand on this on his progression. And you know. I i come say because i've never fixed. I can be in any of those positions depending on time. Place boasts in the mount. But it doesn't really bother me in. That level is the important thing is to enter into any circumstance and learn from it in that respect when you see kills on splits off the the basically the subjective 's of mind and the object of mind obviously there is no such thing. You can't split them up. But we tend to use our minds in that way and it's important to recognize like if you're ever bas- basically doing czars and things settled down is just really look at your sense. Fear really experienced your sense fear and then what what you may find is that you see that seamless but we can easily attach things to it in various ways again. What we're doing here is one is bringing the disease you know which is a really wonderful thing to do. Case of you know basically say well. Have you got anything to say about. Subjective mind objective. Mind and you know in this. In this case the monkeys Says as far as that goes reflect on the mind thinks. Is that something that the moment says a sparse that. I don't see anything until so definitely not so reflection of this experience of boston empty. I don't see anything that all in the function of our daily lives is people. Say what is your name you know. Where do you come from. What do you do for a living you know and of course you can. You can say all these things for an absolute sense dhamma did with a with the emperor or you know you can. You can see yes. All of this is is vast. Maybe i won't use the would empty right now and it functions in many different ways and that's part of the practice to find that out but obviously in this in this case the man was asked to that i see anything at all. That's the sole empty great bought again. They would tolkien earlier where you come from. Do you think about it just ordinary ordinary conversations that we have on a daily basis and you can learn so much about people in this way you can. You can also learn how your mind were so it's important to see these things and see the creations that you make in terms of your own thought processes and then with that you can also cut off some of those strains okay for time being. I'm not gonna go. I'm just gonna put on one side. See what happens for a period of six months. Whatever see see what actually comes up for you because you know it's like the myself. There's certain things i really liked to think about. That made me happy. But i also know because of that the things i don't like to think about because they made me unhappy knife had become a prisoner two to one of these two schemes. Then it's a problem. Most most of our psychological workers is around. This is trying to be able to enter into circumstances. Feel experience whatever's there and then say something that's appropriate in whatever ever way is not about just being zen about something you know holding onto a a perspective which we we regard is that And you know as as this goes on. Koa zambia really. Good teacher you know. He's he's kind of going well. Yeah that's all that's all fine is good. It's good that you see that. Although he's not he's not saying that you know he's not saying it's good is god this further to go which like any any good teacher. They don't agree with you. They point out what you need to work on because if there is some that is if there is something that is very important to address it. It's not just staying in the realm so would comfortable with but is far more important to Enter into those things see how they function. And then in the main. What i found with most of these these challenges as they all like the wizard of us in the sense that you hit mighty omnipotent voice and then you look behind the curtain is the little guy going through a megaphone with with symbols and amplifiers and all kinds of stuff in the background. You know so in time is facing up to those things. Those are the things that really take us through the barriers. The we've created this never been a barrier right from the beginning in that respect but as so-called. That's the thing that we do. Is we go through those barriers until this. That's the point where the barriers and no longer in the way that just part of the process like tolkien. Two guys in the phone dogs. They were talking about being stuck and i said well. There's nothing wrong with being stuck. Is that that's part of the process and quite often. When you stuck there is nowhere else to go and if you keep on looking at that keep on going into it at some point you will find an answer and i say that in all honesty for myself is that i will find an answer even if it takes ten twelve years is just like you know. Keep on facing up to it and then eventually you see through it and beyond but being stuck. He's very important as like those. There's a call one. I think it might be in the book of equanimity. Wha- joe joe's comes to see why and the acid something about the cardinal principle of which is wanna rate rinse is favourite questions and wrens. I just got up grabbed. Him shook him pushed him away. And the guys like freezes part of that freeze in his he so much. He really wants his answer that he's stuck in the midst of it and he conned escape anyway and then that point one of the monks says says to him josiah bow and leave so as soon as the function enter into he had he had some realization that played a lot of way. Stuck nece is important. A lot of people don't like stillness. But if you look at just just about any any of the gray scientists or or musicians or artists or soccer players. He's like when they actually go into into those things and find a way through it. Is they come up with some then. That is usually instinctive intuitive. Usually very simple. You know because it's organic is really coming out of their that it's not buying into say the The teachings of the buddha is coming really from their own heart. And that's the that's the important thing about. The zen tradition is not buying into the buddhist. Said it's actually examining what he said but through practice practice in those things and learning from an. Obviously we can do that with people like ios in subject. Subjective doherty's mind objective is the environment in many ways. It's true look out. Now you see that. Is it internal is external whether the boundaries come between myself and the world around and in doing that then we find out our own scheme that we have. We've practiced for you know for however many years there's really important it's not it's not only just doing suzanne becoming comfortable with the posture learning to regulate breathing. Which is which is another part also sitting in in in such a way that we really learn how bodyworks too but also is the study of how the mind works and we don't have to just follow the old the old patterns we see into our own scheme that we've sat up and that scheme could be could be ancient before were born could be inherited from our parents because just by being with them we model certain things from them not is that fault. They can't help being who they are but for us we have the opportunity then to see. Okay well this really is working in this generation of this time. Let's try something else and the that's that's the part of it and that's why the the courage really comes in. You know to try something different rather than just do the same things and getting the same results over and over and so. That's that's where we actually socal made progress you know and the progress really's just seeing how our own however remind the mind of the of the world. The universe works and place in it and in time we feel at home in which is great a great thing. So you know as a belief that soraya is a person that's not all right so believe we have beliefs you know and again. Is that usually changes through through our own. Our own span of practice. At first i wanted to be a real a really good buddhist. And i wanted to do things right and i wanted to do and i wanted to. You know integrate those those parts in my own life and then at the same time is that i was getting the pull from my environment as well and so part of that was then integrating those aspects into really looking into into my own mind and again through that then a lot of the the externals of formed began to cease to be a problem and then seeing the practices wherever stood over and over. So you know for instance And i tell you about my sumi. Roche is important to know where tradition comes from. And i was once zen shuji with us the the head of the soto school in In america and he was talking with the old japanese guys and what surprised me was the yolk in it up just laughing. You know just just laughing. Nah i wouldn't say on control of by. I'd hardly ever seen him lock in that way and this is the position he was in. He was a young monk when he was a zen shuji. Maybe twenty twenty years before that and he looked after a lot of these these priests and also i mean these these lay people and also he got out drinking with them he out doing all kinds of things go now eating have in having those things of signed his do have in the interface the points of contact which really important so that you get to know somebody rather than projects something on top of that person so that was you know and then he came over and saying you seem to be having a good time there. What were you talk about. The eagles are telling jokes. Wish knows a shock from me because he was like you know such like a straight arrow in terms of practice and everything like that but you see various parts of people for all of us. We come as a package you know. It's not just. We're all in such a way night. Remember when jim. I came to this end to several people again on his case because you wanted to practice so so intently and they were you know just basically fill in that time and there were saying oh you saw ty and all this kind of stuff you know but again with those things is no you know what you really want to do as a human being and how you wanna function because if you really want to do this practice you will. If you don't they'll always be that down the law be well maybe later. I'll do it now. Liking concrete panda favorite favorite cartoon. I've just eaten. So maybe i can do. It doesn't matter wherever you are. Practice occurs wherever you find yourself this is practice but what does practice look like. And that's something again this like we have thoughts around. Look those thoughts and see what we think know again with those things. I remember just being with with nick when he was about three or four and he used to sleep in those visits myself and He wanted me to play. I'd not slap much in in those first four years with them and come on. Dad play and i'm just kind of like a limp rag. And he's pulling them come on. Come on and is gonna come. Do this said so. So wait a minute you know. Why why can't you do it. Just like just be doug tired and do the best that you possibly can play with it should. It doesn't look like something is not the philip villain. The mold is just just show up to your life bathroom saying to myself again. Yeah i talked to myself. You know you get off your get going but this this thing this this this simulation the stimulation that really the really can help if we examine. What's actually going on and in such ways rather than have set outcomes. What is this. What's actually going on in time. You just find ways who go through it rather than following the ideas that we built up over. Time is another time where i was in the middle of a woman session and for some reason. We've put it right in the middle of a three month training period so as soon as that one month period finished we were still in in the training and we still have work to do for the sense. I never did that again. I just remember. I was just i was just dragging. Lasko up to the up to zenda as you head out. God it's going to be is going to be awful to sit from the five days like wait a minute what's happening now. What's going on now. Okay you walk into the path. How does that feel the no problem. Nelson i i go up and start walking up the stats would hold self. How is it now with no problem. I'm just walking the staz. Just feel my feet going the status and then getting getting to the door and again the the drag is coming note you know and they get it going to the go into the whole and okay. What are you doing now. Bowing see any problem then. No there's no problem is bowing okay up to the altar offered incense same thing. Okay you just. You just offered incense imbalance dust. That's all going on. Came back to my seat by that time and sat down. Just go. how is it now. It's fine you sit and so part of it was just letting go of how the my expectations of what was going to happen and in doing so i cut a lot of soot suffering from my own from my own experience now with this monk it you know it's really interesting. E rather than feel and say shamed of his answer he goes live. Have you got any instruction of the anything that would help. You know somebody giving you something somebody not giving you. Something is also is also an amazing teaching In job since sense and this is where he goes a little bit soto on those he goes to say. I have something particular on not misses the point as for your view. It reaches only one mystery so that that mt aspect. It's in taking the seat and wearing the robes. Observe it for yourself later on and that we always forget one you know quite often we Really value the moments all. Now i understand it but there's something deeper a quite often physically these things out just by sitting and doing things you know. I don't. I don't know if that happened to you but i remember i'd had a pain in my back and this is a bit at the pain in my bag for for about six months. Sit in one night. I had a dream that i was stabbed in the back. You more and we'll water to go one in my garden so not the will was every my back garden bull then. what happened. was the next day. The pain gone so as works on many different levels. It doesn't just work on the levels. We think it does. Psychologically mentally physically in many of these ways just trust and the annual process. You know just in the same way. I live that. I'm going to die so the important thing is let that really stimulate me to to live fully with the time that i've got you know. So we're we're we're born with this human condition which the buddha talks about you know. That's what stimulated him finally to to look into his own he's own angst and that propel him through a lot of the difficulties that he'd had so he goes is nothing particular. I can say you know in other words. That probably won't reach it for you but if you put these things into practice if you sit and you do these things is that the odd saw that you'll go through it the increased if you actually do it know but again in many ways this talk is about movement through. I'm talking. i'm talking about basically the feeling of zen and then how we move through these difficulties rather than the fact is intrinsically which is always that is the we're never apart from it and it's not a matter of movement a it's a matter of owning it thoroughly. That's that's part of the imposture. This no the place no the time get on with it and it's the easiest place to see it not that it doesn't occur everywhere else but when we have that that conscious mind that can see and experience it experience it trying cut off the goal because then we pract his future is in. I am going to be desks when this happens. I've never become anything not never in my whole life. I've i've people say yeah. You became cobb into a mastercard ventura a sense a youth finish cohen. Study you you know you did. All of these. Things inhabit play guitar. You know but but the thing is is that. It's always this no matter no matter where i am is always this. And that's really important to bear in mind. Now that doesn't preclude. further accomplishment. Accomplishment comes of its own accord by practice in this over and over like the core of dolphins teaching. He says practice realization. So that's the cohen in the south. Here it is is already manifested as as you alive. And then don't expect to master it you know because basically there's always something new the buddha practice till he died and basically with the ones that continue that aptitude thousand five hundred years. The work hasn't been done because again. It's not just about us even if we must the the subjective sphere there's so much in the objectives via our own of our own practice in life where we feel for others and things and so important that we continue on that level. Because that's where we really start to help others around us. not the. We're not doing that now. You know but wherever you see an opportunity take cat of people and things. Yeah i think. I'll just i'll open up now 'cause little to and then if not i'll do something on the practice in the verse case. If you have any questions or comments you can use the raise hand feature. You can earn you yourselves. Just jumping then. You can also opened up chat. Not all at once. Houston dan great to senior. Thank you thank you for that car you to aaron. You know i am. I just wanted to ask you about you. Know who you're talking about practice happens You're right here right now. Always an opportunity to practice. And you know. I have these moments where I feel like. I said something that i regret some cash. That or i've said something out of your anger. You know i regret she like in that moment. That i mean failure might be a big word but it is this disappointment yell by appointed with myself after all of this training and everything else that you know. I i still have these moments. Where i just wanna just yet cutting or something. Yeah yeah i remember you know. He's not just have positively love from the negative or island from the negatives to how could i have done that bad. And if i go to a possibility of a apologizing will because usually i'm the one that has to carry it. Who's better to do something right. Yes de he's been seen stan. No terry penny. Good morning. I liked what you said of all moving through. Were always moving through i. I feel like. I'm always moving through something and sometimes it's like last subsites night. I got my second vaccine shot three days ago. Adding today's moving through nothing agree two days. Okay i could just ask adults Apply sh good. Yes and you'll lose your that you'll be flied negative so what this zen practice seems like for me. If i'm practicing than harder to get stuck it makes sense. Well you know. I it it it depends you know for me. I don't i don't mind stone. This is just part of the process is especially being stuck with other people to know. Something's going on in in my life where this information. The isn't isn't out that and so enter into that and do do whatever that's part of the and that's why the buddha said you know after his enlightened. This one has stuck axle wheel. It wasn't saying. I'm i'm the enlight i have all of this. All of this. Wisdom is is like no. You know what i deal with people that part of my life so that's will arise in that way but a lot of times as you shed light on and that situation could be at least improve in whatever way. Yeah sometimes i. I've seen is definitely a big huge benefit to be stuck on something suck on something i need to do. I want to tell to be okay with being stuck because in that stuck news is trying to go through to do something that doesn't work out but if i'm stuck i'll come up with creative ideas or write it much easier to move off without michigan zia mention of a. Thank you terry penny jill. Hi owning. I just sort of a simple question now when you were speaking about subjective an object in our environment so for me Nature is a big part of my practice. Whatever that cowboy connected to practice the easiest and when you were talking about environment being active Problem i have is. I love nature so much in. It's so beautiful that i try to be objective with an. I'm always for me opinions. About how beautiful. This bird is the leaves or whatever I don't know if i'm if i'm approaching. If if i could approach it even at a higher level or nets you could try. I mean you know. Higher or lower is is irrelevant in many ways. Just try something else like just allow yourself to do. I mean you. You have kids right three three. Yeah so when you watch them. Do you often find yourself. Identifies identified with them or against. Ask them ask them. You know like when the doing something you stop you know. Say say that plane soccer. You're almost like kicking the ball when they've got. Yeah and so that thing of immersion. That's be the gap gets gets closer rodman than being objective. You're immersed with them so you can. You can try. I mean sometimes. It's very embarrassing. You know you there and then you saw you saw that and then you bouncing the ball you were the parents you know you just. You're there is your kid and But you know this happens more than than we catch to a talks. I when we do something that we really love and sometimes we don't love is absorbed and it's not a matter of being absorbed in thought is absorbed in the doing event and the whole mind is involved in that and that kind of thing so part of this is you know is by trying various things you you actually begin to see how your mind works. And how the story uselessly spoils it her sense and i get it So when observing a bird instead of observing and and like actually immerse. Okay yeah. I love that okay. I'm going to work on that whatever you do whether you like it enough. See if you can immerse in it because you're gonna learn more that way you learn a lot of different levels thank you. Thanks jill canada a new the morning morning. I'm glad you're doing so well. I got my second call on forty hours so glad you're with us. This is the weekend of the black and blue. This summit and i been listening to and watching and participating in some Remarkable talks a comment was made by risking the other day that win because were suffering as a society with our with the racism in our society on that that affects it said a very personal whether we h with it or not and that was a good reminder to me that i am looking to suffer But i am looking to know how to question. And to engage in miami part in in our society. But i would ask you races Is it environmental or is it mind. I wouldn't say those is prejudice prejudice kind of comes up from lazy thinking. Just remember as a kid you know. I've said this before it's like anyone that wasn't from. My street was weird. So then then when i when i got older. Anyone who wasn't for my school was weird. I found out that you know. Maybe that's not true. This i began to get out of that. Got a bit older anyone from my town. Anyone that wasn't from my town was with you. Know the the prejudice. Was that rather than see how these people are and see what see. What's see how they are as human beings. Before i start to those things on and then obviously you know this aspect. So this is the prejudice that part of that prejudice is built on what my parents told me in various ways you know overly racist but they didn't like the strange. Mvp people were meant to have a certain live within a certain cultural expectation. When i came to this country then no prejudice. I had about europeans and everything like that began to fall. You know simply. Because then. I got more feedback from different races. Different different viewpoints a different places on economic scale etc. So yeah it's important to to not allow that prejudice to go often automatic in whatever direction whether towards women transgender a black hispanic. It's even like with the cove injection at assigned. some say. What race do you think you are in an is this. I mean that is ridiculous you know but but this this is society we live in so it's important to say something about those things and at the same time indian doctors from india will give me jabs. You know so. It's it really has no sense in that way but you'll say across society you know it's not just with with racism but that's the really over par it just like oh so buddhists alike this so that all. They're in this box rather than going. Well what ominous. I always do that go. What's going on. You know what was happening here or you know. These people are from this this this ethnic or racial background. How do they function. Because the truth is for me is the i like people black and light people who are white people or asian and they also don't like people of black wide asian. It's not it's not a. It's not a racial thing is that some people are great. And i don't care about that race. But i'm not overtly going to stop this dismissing them will disrespect him simply because of mccullough. Because because i have to hold onto that more another if i do that. I feel if. I'm doing that. Because i can see faces. There seems to be a m- environment environmental aspect of racism that includes History such a long inculcated can't train people into cultural habits. That are so ugly. They're really hard to To own your as part of the country. I live in and where i don't wear. I haven't felt a stranger. But i almost do feel like a stranger. So yeah i mean one of the the main thing is is don't buy into it and then whenever you get a chance to talking with somebody told him if somebody is chilly disrespected then. That should be brought up. You know. yeah thank you say yes. Thank you son. You saw tom into cheese. You can mute yourself morning row. She how're you doing. Good thank you. Good luck well. I'm going through a very severe grief process over the loss of maria months ago and today's today seems especially challenging. It's my birthday on. Try right a small village wary for just been just not up for but i think it's a good day. It's a momentous stay clear some of this and put it at a different level awareness. Ooh yeah and dollar to get married. Don't let it get buried. Let it out and part of that. Write-in is though you'll you'll let it out how much you meant to her etc but then part of that is you know you've also got to say how much you appreciate yourself to as you come. Farther of. it's very very sticky logical reaction. Yes greece and makes me feel like i'm kind of mild psychedelic. Yeah and you know one of the women main things with this is allow yourself to feel it. Don't let the story takeover. Because the more you can do that the more you'll actually process because the is a lot better than the had a process in this stuff and then also believe in the fact of impermanent. It's not it's not always going to be this way but will we may tell this the way is never going to get over etc than going was actually going on. Feel it experienced it. Usually you come out of it at some point. But that's what faith in yourself comes from. This is so bad. And yet i'm alive and kickin you know i can still taste touch smell thing. I can do all of those things i can. I can talk with friends you know and then again part of as with with that being that sadness being involved did is the trauma and important. Try and get it out in one way or another telling people how you feel because people will also I mean obviously people that you trust your tell them you know you tell them how you feel and they can. It's almost like it's it's is moving on is moving out of. Don't hold onto it in that respect but don't be driven by the story be driven by the xperience schilling alana liberation bits and pieces of juillet. she'll in some ways like i've kind of broken into another level of age. It's a death and rebirth. Romy as well. So i think i'll be okay It helps me to have practice. Helps me to be with you all also to sometimes think of giving you a call sticking in. Yeah you can do that. Yeah always blessing inky. Everyone decay tom. Maher law you're all sheet. Hey hey thank you for taking my question I i want to extend mind my sympathies to tom and also wanted to let everybody know that my dad's doing well after his surgery he had his pacemaker put in. He's a recovering really well. I'm sorry i just away. But what i wanted to say was that i'm trying to go. I'm going through a period of right now. Where i'm opening myself up to new possibilities. Some of them are romantic and some of them are a are kind of the opposite of romantic. They're kind of kill our desire to detach. And i can't be the open about this because i don't really care kind of an open book so On on one side. I'm pursuing kind of a romantic interest. In one person on the other side are finding it extremely difficult to relate have a positive relationship with my son the long distance I feel like my spy really doesn't help facilitate any decent conversations. I experienced lately. Have been really frustrating. Because as i tried to talk to my son. I keep noticing about his environment or noticing things about his behavior. That worries me and i feel helpless here. I feel like there's nothing i can do about it. I feel like. I'm far away. And i feel like i'm eliminated from my son in a big way and i think that on one side. I am trying to look for some kind of Enchantment or goodness or Some semblance of of romance or something not in one person and on the other side. I'm wanting so badly to detach and feel dispassionate about my son about my ex wife and about my situate. My family might familial situation with them. In brazil that contradiction to me is really messing with me. You know it's messing with my mind is my focus away from my practice. And i i've been doing lately like even my practice has been just kind of like really you when you mentioned this idea of having so many thoughts and it's just been so overwhelming having so many thoughts that it's hard to sit for more than you know. I tried to sit for thirty forty five minutes. And i i i. I can't even really do that. You know my mind just running in different directions that i just start feeling overwhelmed and I'm not sure what i'm in a way. What what i saw in this co- on is disburse or this idea. Here you know do you have any particular instruction for me and apart of me is looking for some kind of instruction card manny. Knock you for that reason. Because i'm looking for some particular instruction and in a way. I hope that you say no hope that you say just live your life. I mean in a way. I'm hoping for that. But on the other hand i'm i'm just curious to know what your feedback will be. I mean i don't wanna anticipate what your answer might be. But i just I wonder what your perspective is on this out of your own life experiences and if i could just say the last thing is that i i feel like i really have a lot of Very removed and very distant and yet very feeling very close Kind of compassion for or a kind of very sincere affection for my zoom. You rochhi all the stories that you tell about him. Because i feel like he is part of my lineage. In part of our lineage together and i have to say that every time you mentioned something about him i relate more and more to against not let me go so i feel like i feel like my man. Zooming roche named through music recommendation and can't stop listening zoom you erosion and on the other hand. I know that the issues with drinking in those things are i relate so much to the addiction aspect to issues of of of just things that i of that. I've learned about him. So i just wanted to thank you for sharing all those things about him because he's certainly a really great figure in my mind and you know every all of this. Come as a package and pod that we don't we don't well. We have to accept people as they are. But we don't have to take those things on us with some people think you know in that in their own way but the pots were more important. You know like with you saw is is very difficult. I mean that that's really difficult if you can't see them and especially if you'll spat your ex spouses blocking that that communication and is something that you you know in time you're going to have to disentangle but potty of practice You know feel feel feel us so offering and in time you'll come to come to terms with it doesn't have to always be sent and it really members some point you gotta let go of your kids to you know sixty start learning now on level but not in terms of love but did you know that that real attachment causes a lot of suffering. That can really help you later on. These always always those bridges that you can repair later on and again is obviously you have in some romantic interest. Just just make sure that your your kid feels loved and cadfael because when somebody else comes into the equation is that they may be taken you from them so be very careful on that on that not obviously just trying try and as much as you can increase those points of contact between you and you saw. I appeal to judge through my lawyer to increase the not a conversation so we can have video conferencing every week and I'm hoping that i can get four calls a week. Increase my presence in his life and to increase the the the familiar argue with which he sees me but the same time. He's such a young boy. He's us not even two years old. When i feel so feel so far from you know. And i feel so detached not detached from sorry i feel so alienated is so yeah. I miss him. You know. I miss him a lot. And i feel a little bit stuck. You know feel stuck here. Do a little bit stuck in my emotions. And i feel a little bit stuck in in my way of thinking and i i hope i can grow out of it and you know build a healthy detachment But i i. Can't you know i love my son so much want to confuse that with attachment a wanted to be a a pure law you know and i think the same thing with this romantic thing is that you know. I want to develop something. That is a pure love and kindness and not an attachment well again. You know not not all attachments about you know. Just just look at the ones that don't work for you and then try and work and let knows goba is attachments. The really good you know. Like i'm attached to practice. I'm attached to my son but that doesn't mean that that stops me function in and they know but this is the pasta it you know. I love practice. I love myself. I actually look things too but i know they will always be there that i love music. I love my instruments yard. That's important folks on those things that are working as well and make sure you get on with your life. But that doesn't mean putting putting him in shadow is just part of the package. Aqi appreciate in some are any other questions chat for now anyone's got any last minute comments otherwise we're just at twelve thirty.

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PMS 2.0 023 - Johnny Hekker, Rich Eisen, & My Los Angeles Experience

The Pat McAfee Show 2.0

1:33:04 hr | 2 years ago

PMS 2.0 023 - Johnny Hekker, Rich Eisen, & My Los Angeles Experience

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It's good to know that one of the all time greats. I'm copying assist. So how sure three shut the fuck up. Join johnny. Okay. Let's talk about minute in two seconds left to up. Three ball is on your own. Thirty two yard line. People were touting it the greatest regular season football game in history. You're in the middle of it. You know, it's a real slobber knocker fueled positions going to be huge Patrick Mahomes. Tyreek hill on the other side of the field. Tyreek hill on the field. Waiting to return. And you let off a piss missile for the ages a game winning punt last night sixty eight yarder. Did you know it was happening? What was the plan going into it? And when it left your foot how great to death feel. The plan was just to just rely on our cover guys. You know, if I get hit a ball. I was hoping to maybe get him to let it go. And you know, hope a big ball touchback. But you know, he's he's a guy that really doesn't like to to let up return opportunity overhead we go back there and take the ball and he's gonna run off to the field. So, you know, the deal was just you know, it it it left, and hopefully he's tried to that sideline. Or or if not may planned it to go to the field. And we just gotta get it before he does because that guy can freak in fly. He's a nightmare for the brand. Absolutely. He's I think he called him a for the brand terrorist, and I completely agree. I was screaming that on the sideline before the game. I I was doing looks Johnny from our screaming terrorists in the middle of a stadium. I didn't even think about it. Extreme terrorist. But you know, if people knew the context, totally agree with you. He's so talented so fast that game last night was so incredible going into you guys knew that it was going to be a big one. I assume the whole week McVeigh when you guys hyping this up. Now, listen, I know everybody says it's just another game. But having a brain in being a human you guys had to know that this game being Monday night football in Los Angeles against a team that is everybody's touting could potentially be your Super Bowl opponent at one point. If we can get by the saints and patriots, obviously, and all that you guys had to know that this was going to be a big game ready for it. I mean to Ninety-one teams, you know, the top two dogs me. NFL scorn squaring off and primetime. There's nothing like it. And you know to have it in LA with huge after it was supposed to be in Mexico that kind of stuck we didn't get to experience that that situation. And you know, as you know, the elevations there for the brand oh my God. You would have had a month that sixty Yager might want out of the you might have hit the state. You might hit the stands. It would have been fun. Got got the practice up in elevations at airports academy during the week. And you know, we were preparing for it. And then, you know, the location got change on us kind of last minute. But it was a deal where man it was. It was you know, we preach just know the game. And it has we just had to take care of what we take care of. And I'm playing our best game. We'll be enough. That's coach told us all week and not to make too much of it. But I'm just another game. But you know, definitely you look at a record to see the playmakers on both sides of the. Field. And and it was it lived up to the hype. And then some that was one of the craziest games I've ever been a part of you know, as far back and forth. Huge play a huge play twists and turns. And you know, I think America got their got their money's worth last night for sure. It was one of the best games. I've ever seen in my entire life in my the it was all three phases to which was interesting to me because that high scoring game. You would normally assume that the defense did nothing. They were strip sacks. And there was a lot going on defense. And then you guys you and co quote would put on special. It was a great football game. It was like the enemy me of what football should be was magical. Right. Yeah. I think I think with the way the rules are moving in the in the league protecting offenses and and going for big points. That's the kind of games they're trying to put out there. How many different punts? Do you have weird punt back to the left? I never seen before. How many how many clubs do I have? I don't know. You have that weird. Punt, you know, which one I'm talking about you. You have a weird punt back to the left where you you turn it over somehow you act like you're aiming, right? And then you come across your body 'cause you're like six foot fucking ten and you hit this ball back to the left. How how does that even come like how does that even become something that you think? Yeah. I should do that. You know, what's crazy is I used to practice that with with Ryan Allen in college. That was something that we would do just kinda messing around. You know, we we call him like a rocket or a missile you just try. We would hit it kind of as low, and as far as we could just to try and get it on the ground poor return to get to it. And then it's kind of over the last couple of years just working on it, you know, showing. Right. You know, I I was hitting a pre consistent right ball. So getting returner kind of favorite over towards the right hash right numbers. And it was just so much field over there. And then once I started working on it if I could spiral it that thing was going, so. Yeah. For me. And you know, the returns guessing, hey, tyreek kill was catching your punts and warm. So do you feel about that is that normal? No, I didn't like that very much. You know, the one of them he came up, and then I hit that the show. Ryan I hit to left ball on him. And. Of course, they had another return standing over there. So he caught it. One guy. I I was watching that though. I was wondering why you're so people don't know this. I was explaining to people inside line. There's local guys catch punts equipment managers their their local guys that come in just for the weekends at work. The games there. Ballboys in those guys the catch punts every weekend. Right. Every we can there's guys catch months in every city. So I know all of the guys that catch punch in Houston Nashville there. There's the same group of guys that come in and catch on the weekends. Your guy was just write your guy was just letting him do it to it wasn't like your guy was fighting for it at all. He was just because you were showing all these different punts. And it's like if you're in a batter's box in baseball, and you get to sit there and watch a curveball. I and then okay. The curveball gets the come again. That's exactly what it's like because we're trying to hit balls that are trying to make that returner uncomfortable. So that he can't get a good run on a good read on it. And he was just catching them in warm ups. And I was like this is not nor I don't know if Johnny hackers like a super nice guy. But this this is. Not how it normally fucking works. I was very I was very confused by it. Yeah. I thought about getting on our our guy Evan. He's he's a good dude in, you know, who cares. It's pre game. You know, it's it's not a deal where I'm on that scared of tyreek hill, you know. It's a deal where we should be Johnny returner, Johnny dick, you should be. He's insane. Yeah. I know. I know we should be. It's just kind of confidence. I have in our guys we work our tails off, and I think we have the best special teams coach man that fell you know, a guy that just gets us ready week in and week out. And you know, he's going to have to catch them. And then deal with the other ten guys screaming at him. So it's a deal where you know, you can you can catch pre game. And you know, it kind of it is what is who cares? I'm definitely not gonna let them catch anymore in the future. Turn around and kick the other way. Hey, I was thinking about I was thinking about starting like a real story that was on the sideline like become a real media person. Be like all. Disrespect from tyreek hill to Johnny hacker before the game. Just completely disrespecting everything. Johnny Ecker stands for year. But it's actually a smart move by the return of by the way, you just need your guy pacman Jones used to try to do an impact, man. And I are friends pacman used to try to do it all the time. And you have to have your your guy that's returning for you. Just be like, no, no, no. We guy got whatever, you know. Like, that's all it's a very interesting little game. Because you don't want them to see what ball is coming to them. You want them to be uncomfortable could cause a turnover by the way. So that's a big deal. But I think you're incredible as usual watching you and warm ups bomb and then in games, it's just you're so fun to watch. You're such a freak athlete enjoying the hell out of that by week, buddy. I appreciate it, Pat. You're the man have fun man continued success so happy to see balling out for the brand and bringing awareness to what we do, man. Keep doing your thing. Hey game winning plan. That's a big deal. Johnny biggest game in regular season history. The game winning. They're not gonna show up the game winning puppet. It's all good baby. I love it. He should he should put it in your Twitter bio. Have a good one take care of that family. You're the best. But yeah, you're the best Joan see you take care. She had a guy. AJ Hawkins B S bantering back and forth. We'll be incredible. It'll be absolutely incredible. 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Very good people, by the way, I have no idea what they've done. They're awesome people though, we I was just with them for four straight days, and they're the ones. Introducing me everybody they are very much. Like, hey, you have to be in the room with these people. Like, this can't be something where we send a video of you finding the number eight world signed spinner, by the way, finding the electric. Are you kidding me? Just walking down the street in LA, the number eight signs spinner in the world's. They're hitting a back bend unbelievable thing. They can't just show that video this. How was like? Well, that's pretty good video. I mean that was a good video. There's a lot of talent I found there. Maybe maybe I'm scout. Maybe talent scout. But they said let them meet you in person it would be better for everybody. So that's what they were doing. They were just introducing me to everybody. And now here we are potentially not potentially actually calling again in Jerry world. The good thing is everybody knows that. I know a lot about Baylor in Texas, right? Yeah. I know. Is very for the brand. Oh, love Texas Tech. Danny amendola. Went there grows Groza in array guy. Ward finalists, Texas Tech. Does your damn right? They they do. Yeah. Yeah. I knew that doors absolutely knew that they had that is that Texas, Texas Tech tech, Texas. Of course, it's Texas. Am baylor. They got that statue RG three. Yeah. I know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pull the strings to throw it and then pull the all about Bela. Josh, Gordon Baylor. Korey Coleman Coursey is Patrick Mahomes. Detects tech. Yeah. You know for. I know I'm happy. They put me on there. He's not happy with being not. He he said bad things about that guy. He did it's going to be hard to hold that one in the tank. I heard what Baker said about that coach cliff. Yeah. Cliffs good-looking guy. Good. Looking guys seems like his team loves him. He's young Baker was not the nicest, but you know, what that's tough situation. People get hurt things happen that could be a tough situation for both sides, by the way, I'll cliffs trying to win games. So he's trying to know bakers trying to do succeed, then now granted could have been handled better. I assume, but let's assume that there was a little bit more to that story. But yeah, I'm very happy that I know everything about look at you being an analyst right there. See that. That was pretty good see that. Yeah. You're ready. In by the way, I have history in that stadium history. Jerrell beater. I threw threw a football football in there in an NFL game on primetime TV. Was it completed? We'll tell that story. It was not. But I have history in there. I think Trent Richardson rushed for negative eighteen yards or some really no I think he had like a thirty two yard game. We lost by fifty or something. But I kicked off their scoring with an field. Afield fake punt on fourth and twelve on her own eighteen yard line on an audible fake that. I caught myself. To be fair. It was a dime. It was a dime. They could have been caught wonderful. I mean, kind of if I just punt the ball there. They probably don't get the ball eighteen but the guy came hot came hot sore gunner was wide open. We practiced it seventy two times or eighty two times in practice it 'cause Tom McManus mushrooms went back and watched it every single time. We're eighty two or seventy two for seventy two or eighty two doing into the game. When this happens whenever they bring a corner in hot whenever they leave a gun or wide open. We are not bringing the or down to help protect so that you can't get out and cover we're leaving him out there. And we were throwing a football team to get a first down. What's extend the drive? They wanna get a block. Sweet we want to get it. I down right. Eighty two times. Eighty two times if feels so good to as soon as I think, it might have been no license to be onus. Just going to get it out. I got a quick you gotta get quick. Because that guy who's coming off the edge. Now since you didn't bring a gun in is not blocked. So now, we got a guy. Sprinting off the edge coming at you and your face and you're gonna throw we're we're on the left hash, by the way. This was the right gunner. So he started doing math. So this is a ball thirty. This is a ball. Eighty two time. We got that thing. Then being Chuck at all situation after that old boy the situation in practice. We in a situation, I think it was a first practice back Wednesday. Practice. We had something like this pop up every single day and pump period. So that corner comes hot in practice. It would happen because you have to have practice, and we wouldn't know right. The scout team would be running plays. This is the way it goes. It's an guys can get the blocks they can figure it out on their own. So it doesn't just happen on again that corner comes hot boom, boom. Turn throw completion whole place celebrates sprint down on like slapping a moment on his head. I'm like, well, let's go trying to get them back. You know because he felt terrible. Doing McDonald felt terrible. Like, he obviously it was he dropped the ball. I mean that is a terrible feeling to have NFL wide receivers dropped balls. Although he should have caught it like that shit happens all the time. So we I was very happy that he he was he he is mad because it meant that he cared. But then the next day when we threw it. He caught it. I was very happy that he caught it. And we celebrate it very hard. Right. Like, I was like slapping one head. I sprinted down. It was like a whole thing. Right. Because we're just trying to get them pass. The hey, we have more games to play. And then Chuck Osho. We do Trump not tell you. Yeah. We will not do that play unless we're on the other side of the fifty I'm like, well, they're never going to bring a corner hot on the other side of the fifty. So we're never going to play. He was like would you have to make some type of restrictions because we can't have what happened on Sunday happen again. I'm like Dwayne Allen drop the past. You're not gonna throw it to him for the rest of the fucking season. And he goes, we'll talk about this later. I'm like term Richardson rushed for negative yards. We can still hanging off the ball to him. So just because Dewey drop one pass and a Eighty-three we're gonna completely just bowel down is that what we're gonna do and trucks like, and I was getting loud. This is in practice. Getting other people were hearing because I'm pissed off about this. Because this is an overreaction in my head. This is an overreaction that was a forty five yard gain. If that is caught it wasn't that sucks. That's football. That's the way it goes. But we shouldn't allow allow dude have a chance to make up for it. Right. We we shouldn't just cancel it. Because that happens and calls me into his office afterward and says do we have a problem that was the for this was before we're friends? It was do we have a problem thing? And I wanted to nice I went into a nice, a nice speech. I mean, I don't I don't. That is my issue. That is my that is my issue. I can't just be like, no, no problem. I can't because at this point in. I think Trent probably really good guy, if you know him if you're friends with him, whatever I never got to know him because in the locker room, he didn't really talk to many people. He played Dyson that was about it at this point, though, we are about five six weeks in him starting in not doing well, it was very obvious. And we had a very good team around the team like the rest of the team was very good. And we just kept force-feeding this mistake that was made by them trading. A first round pick for this guy. Maybe an offseason workout will maybe off season getting him in his system and everything will be good. But right now, it's obvious that it's not working obvious. So Chuck at the end of the practice after he, and I got into gave a speech about guys putting their egos aside for the betterment of the team. Jeez. So in that meeting where he says, we have a problem. I just quick reference point. I said drop that speech to him. And I said, I think the team has done that actually I think in the locker room we have a humble group of people. I think there was some decisions made though that egos have been affected, and I think it's affecting our team. And he goes, oh, what do you mean? He now he wants me to say it doesn't want me to be direct. I was like, well there's a couple of things that happened like eight q Shipley was getting benched in not dress because somebody didn't like them. So like, I don't know. Who was I don't think that was Ryan Grigson by the way. I think Ryan Grigson light take you. But somebody didn't like a cue a cue came in Cleveland game we win because they cue plays. And then the next week. They don't even dress him. So it's like he was third string. So it was like it was a personal. It was a personal thing with a Q. I don't know why they're trying to build up a younger player money was spent on somebody else they weren't doing. Well, they they wanted their play better. But they were personally benching a Q like it was very everybody on the team might take you when I was in. We did better. When I was out we didn't. So it was like there was something happening. So I mentioned that I referenced and I said, well, one particular thing would be innate you best friend Walker right next and also in the locker room. So I hear what everybody's saying. So it's and then I said that's just one though. And he was like there's more. I was like why did we punt on that one? That was a fake. He's like percussion was fourth and twelve why was it in twelve o the handed off three times trying to so so that was quite a quite a fun little time. I think the first play was a hand off to me lost two yards. I think we might have thrown next, but he got the ball to out of the three times right there. And then at the end of games he was getting the ball. Instead of luck getting the ball. Right. It was like there was decisions being made. And I said, and I think that's probably an ego problem if I had to guess, but I don't know. I have no idea. And then there was a little bit of a beef. And then he was like is just finished. I was like are we still not doing the? And he was like well revision it I was like, okay. Sounds good. And it was a fist bump and a walk away. And that was before Chuck, and I flew to Japan and became friends so Masumi that he did not like me. They're so Masumi that I did not have a lot of friends in there. But honestly, I just felt as if I was saying the right thing, but Chuck was probably handcuff to by the way. So it's like I was speaking to a guy that. Literally couldn't there's probably nothing. Trump. Could do this is probably much higher than him. And I'm not I'm not even saying Grigson, by the way. This is not saying Ryan Grigson this. There's a lot of business and money that happens in the NFL, and whenever a lot of monies happening. There's a lot of things that are now that I'm getting older and realizing that I should have when I walked in there. Just the Chuck be like, you know, you know. You're going to yell at me because you can. But you can't do anything else. Like it was in this weekend. By the way, lot of hand shaking to a lot of people. There is a lot of potential moments with me, and Chuck that moment there, but now the motor. I just shake my hand and keep my mouth. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I was trying to play the game as much as possible. There's a couple of networks. You will not see me working with though because I fucking hate. I showed up to one of the meetings in a t shirt and ripped jeans. Yeah. Yeah. Short side shorts. I Jean shorts and a tank top that now granted one of them with FOX I walked in with a sleeveless hoodie, and jeans. So that was a I I should have probably just up a little bit nicer than that one. But there was one particular company I did not want to work with after pre Luke previously meeting with them. And I enjoyed tank top on I walked everybody's in suits the agents were just like dying. They're really God. That happens. I was nice to them though. I was the things I was saying not nice. I was nice that bigger, man. I was kosher. But I knew there was no way they were gonna they were going to hire me because I showed up in a beating with them with you know, what I mean? So it was like a did my own thing. It didn't seem nice who's that? Lamar Odom, bro. Yeah. He's an interesting situation. Not seem nice. Nice didn't seem like he was happy to be playing horse. So he also seems like he might not live long. I'll say it. So you'll have to why why do you think that just seemed like it? So thar GIC has his fucking guy has like five feet short guy. The guy had forty five strokes though. Four forty five strokes. Right. That doesn't mean I can't say that. It doesn't look. Well. You can still dunk six ten he was huge. I so back to the nice part. I was very interested in this situation. What was going to happen? I he's gonna come on the show and Thursday. I'm very interested to see how that goes. He's gonna team of people around him that. I'm very intrigued. Yeah. I don't know if everybody has the best intentions for Lamar. But I do know that he is trying to get into the concept game and business and stuff. Like that had like three camera guys Chris's people. He had Kris Jenner. No, no, no, do not seem like this was a general. Did not seem. I think he's got a lot of people maybe on on payroll that don't all have the. Same goal. I'm not sure I don't know though, because I didn't get he didn't talk to me much. So we got that we got there late. First of all we got there late because we had no idea what was going to draft. So we get there late. Then when we get there where we just go start shooting. He didn't even know it was me when I walked up to him dribbling, the basketball, obviously, talking shit the way I was dribbling hard, and he just looked at me and walked by me. And I was like we doing this. Are you Pat? I was like, yeah. Yeah. Us. Oh, let's go. So then he dabs me up real quick. And then we walk over to the court, then he does his intro to one of his three cameras, and he calls me McAfee. So then whenever you hear me do the intro NFL. And I was like he just call me by the wrong fucking name that was a minute and a half after seeing him. That was our first that was literally are I I yeah. And I thought maybe since he knew we were making content that maybe they're good more interaction or conversation. But I don't know what was going. I don't know what he expected. I don't know how much you trust people too. So I you know, what I mean, he was just, but he was definitely not giving a lot of conversation. Not. There was not a lot of conversation there. It was tough Wendy too. By the way, very very windy beach win with the winning. Finless six inches right left. Yeah. That was a real thing. And that's why in those corner shots. I couldn't hit shit because you're battling a wall that you don't even that's above you. You don't even feel. I should have known though from putting in these fucking stadiums. What it is a ground isn't what it is in the sky, and I couldn't figure, but by the way got there did the game. There's not like, I know. Right. There was probably a three shots four shots. I started hot too, right? Yeah. A couple of all of these challenges, by the way, normally the first time. Yeah. Is good almost every single one except for the bowling except for the bay bowling. I got like a forum. I I will not normal normally the for and I think it's because digs hit. So I think like my initial excitement was for beer. Yes. Exactly. So you hit the I bet so the I bet on all the beat Pat magazine even the beer punk shop from up on the thing. The I bet on all the bets as been hot so far. And I'm talking about it not to jinx it. I'm just saying. It's been an interesting statement of fact, it's been an interesting trend here of these things that have been out games because they fucking don't count. Yeah. I have beat that game at homeboy. I saw I have by half half a second. That's stuff. It is tough. It is very difficult, especially if you got bigger mitts your bigger pause because the thanksgiving. No, what's that be panic? I don't think it's anything we're doing next week. They I've already got a text from I have to fade you in your analysis gig. I got a text from. So I'm assuming he'll have like over owners on for the brand over unders on. Yikes. Probably over unders on any FCC violations over under on he sent me a Texas soon as soon as I posted the thing because AJ hawk got that picture. I didn't even know. I don't even know where you guys probably one of these emails again. It's that's what I was just looking to find state Michigan. State. Michigan want to make sure that our conversation was right? Couldn't find it. Yeah. So I'm assuming ain't got that in an Email. He posts it circles it and then when I pose it thirty seconds later. The fucking my bookie is. Oh, God to fade. You is. This a real thing is he was like, I'm putting up odds on everything. I'm like, I can't wait to hear what they are of that. So I'm excited. If you want to tweet me in a word you want me to use. Aw, circle. Just tweet me in a word you want to if I use. Now granted whenever we did. I ask people to tell me more shots. There's people telling me we're shots like already gonna do. Explain it. 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Couldn't even really walked. They were enjoying the the chargers got no shopper. Oh, no shot in LA it no shot. That's no shot every games in a way game for the tortures. I'm hope when they share a stadium. It'll be different like, maybe it'll help. I don't know. If there's no way it's gonna make it even worse. I think. Because this is the Rams stadium for sure. And they're actually Rams now. This makes sense Johnny Hecker tweeted out yesterday. And last night. He was one of the only chance that was really chanted on whose house Rams how so they're starting that chant now because they're going to try to make that their thing. And then they're going into a shared stadium. There's chargers got no shot a lot of that. That's awesome. That is I like that too. Is there a buzz in the air for the game? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It was it was a very very electric enjoys game. I did I did enjoy it seeks. So the thing is now. Here we go good. Thank you for us. Actually, we didn't know we're going to be able to get to that game. Nadia? We're supposed to come home Sunday night red. I k we talked about this last week on the puck guests. It was still up in the air the whole weekend. Basically then. One of the agents reach out to somebody from ESPN and ESPN person. Either wanted to meet me or had meet me once. I mean, they're like, oh, wow. How'd you guys just come to money and football sideline passes? So they agents like do you want to go to money football? We have sideline passes, and I was like hall. Fuck kind of have to do that kind of have to do that. So then we had to prolong the trip. That's all you had to get that fucking plane that you guys on the internet because it was the only plane available on Monday for me to get home. Nice Lou nice plane the nicest I make poor financial. But that plane was really nice. And it was the only way we could have got home yesterday. So we go to we check it out. Everybody is there. Right. But they didn't get ticket. So we just had sideline passes. So I didn't have tickets. I'd sign them passes. So I sent a text over to seek, right? And it is a cousin. It's all I say, I get a text back. It's like what's up here in LA? I'm like, yeah. I know they're calling it a mini Super Bowl. And I know it's a huge thing. Is there any way you can give me some tickets for the LA Rams chiefs game? And he's like, yeah. Absolutely. What are you talking about? He's just do a podcast for our puck has read. I was like, yeah. Tell the story about it. Not just saying your name in there. And he's like, yeah. Deal. Here's four tickets, and they put us right on the fucking fifty. Seger. The best people on earth. And they have the in the reason why now granted did I pay for those. No. But I am currently paying for it. With with advertise in the thing is is the price of the ticket on the ticket that we got in price that it was selling fluid was the perfect seeking. That's the seek does. Seek literally has the best prices for any ticket. You literally had to go through it to collect the tickets. We had to see where it wasn't everything. It was basically a reimbursement operation. The tickets were the best they were better than tickets on other places that had much worse seats. I was like. So this is this is the seatgeek difference for real. It was like they sent me to the best price. Tickets at the best game last game. Best game on the fifty yard line. And there was other ticket brokers ticket apps there were selling seats that were way behind us for like five six times the place. What the face value? Those tickets was I I have no idea like on the street how much people right? I've no idea how much you're awesome for everybody was trying to get in there man, every poor fuck and Mexico. Mexico was supposed to be associated with the biggest game probably in primetime history. That was a game that is going to be talked about for a long time. That is a game that people are going to reference for a long time when another game that's almost as good gets. It's gonna get reference to this game in Los Angeles. And it was supposed to be in Mexico Shaquir burn fucking place down with them hip. She does. So now, Mexico gets no, no, no part of the story. And it's it's like it's in Los Angeles. All the stars are out its prime time. It's just like a movie basically it all worked out perfectly for Monday night football. And I am so thankful for seeking putting us in their fifty yard line getting to watch Johnny Hecker bomb. Football's all over the place a sixty eight yard game winner. Basically in the best game regular season history. They're calling it a punt was a game winner. And also CoCo was in big boss too. And then whenever you get to watch tyreek hill and. Person cameras very fast cameras, very fast. But you don't get the perspective whenever you're actually seeing the whole field as opposed to just the thing. You're watching this little road runner among. Next level. It is unbelievable. And I'll tell you what Mahomes has a hose, I think he took one from one end zone to the other one time. It's unbelievable effortlessly thrills. It to that. These teams are good, man. That Ramstein is good fun that isn't fun game. Now defense some strips se wasn't it. They had like two defensive touchdowns. It was it was a I think it was a good was it. Great defense. No. But I think there was some very very good defensive moments and special teams the reason why I thought it was such a good game. It's because the offense obviously, stole the show. Right. That over by the way biggest locking history. Easiest big enemies. Tweet at what I was real too, by the way, like hey largest over under thirty years. There's no way you're not going to bet the over there. Because how do you sleep at night? You're like, yeah. I want bet under the largest over. That's no you're going to go over. And there's a reason that the over is happening that I just it's what it is. We were talking here yesterday, and I guess the over under Fisk game. And I was like, I don't know seventy five maybe and he was like sixty something. I was like oh my God. This is it's easily to be in the eighties. I get a text from Nick while we're walking in the stadium. I'll make all my bets late. I'll make all my bets very late because I just wanna see how especially since we're going to be on the sideline. I wanted to see how how players were feeling. I wanted to see how players were feeling get that extra edge everything Nick sends me a text. He goes, what are you bet on night? I said all of the overs all of them chiefs Rams team or chiefs. Rammed game all of the overs in Nikko's, I'm betting on blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, okay. What halfway through the third quarter all of the Overson, and I just texted Texan, Nick back all of the all I texted back. I also had chiefs money Lanta shouldn't of though, I bet I bet that before I got into this stuff. And I saw Trump's Kelsey had these incredible laces on hit a little poof poof of there. And I think if I would've seen that I still would have picked the chiefs seeing him. So I think I would have been around speaking of football. I saw little tweet with you and Tessa tour metro tests and Jason Witten to. Yup. I was applies on tests. Tours a sharp dressed, man. Trump just expect any as he tried to help me a lot. He was like, I've I've been impressed by the way that you've been able to do this this. And this think maybe because he's he's top of the game. All right, Monday night football. Play. But he's been around for a long time. He was very nice to me lot of handshake, and he stopped by and saw us a couple of times. I saw him three times throughout the weekend Jason Witten. I met him saw him a couple of times throughout the weekend. Nice guy, by the way, everything we've said, very nice guy. Good handshake in. I honestly believe that his cadence is the way it is. Like, I think that that's his cage is how he talks I think because we had a very funny casual conversation. He sounded exactly how he sounds on TV. But he looks good. He looks very good sister. Good night. I didn't get to hear because we were at the game. It was it was par for the course. Not great. I told him that he walked into a buzzsaw to get Monday night football. Sure you walk right in. And I said that to him early in the conversation. So so that it was you know, what I mean? But he was I think he knows I think he's just kind of rolling with it at this point trying to get better. It seems as if that's his thing. He just trying to get better. But I let them know you wrote into a buzzsaw it's a Super Bowl every week. Basically, you are a let alone this game. Now. Now, we're talking about that is a mini. They're calling it a mini Super Bowl, which makes a lot of sense. Awesome week eleven of the thirteen games this weekend. We're by five points or less that that normally starts happening, right? Water finds its level or whatever. Because every every training camp there'd be some stats up on the board about how. If you're plus two and a turnover you're gonna win ninety five percent of the game. You're plus one minus four Bubba games are decided one score game. Is normally an eighty something percent chance could be one score game. So every possession matters that all that stuff. But it is the NFL is it's for all of its drama that happens. There's nothing like it though. It's March madness every Sunday. It's March madness. Every single Sunday. We read a barn. LA watching these games watching the colts cook, by the way, little brunch. Oh, jeez. We're into building a new the colts weren't gonna lose if Payton's in their Reggie's in their marv's in the OJ Caesar in there. You're not going to lose TY Houghton predicting I talked about this with rich Eisen. You heard it earlier, but t y or later, I don't know if we've played it yet. That is interesting right now after this or heard you heal you'll hear it or you did hear heard it you done hurt. It is a nice ended it happened. But TY predicting that one fifty in two touchdowns is one of the coolest things I've seen it. A long time loan time on them in the saints with only two bulls all week. Speaking of ladies and gentlemen, I hired NFL network. They digs through conversation. Thank you. How's your weekend? Good. Yeah. I went to a friend's giving took a lot of heat from Nick and Connor because they don't have friends or any loved ones in their lives. I'll tell you what I've never been invited to a friend's giving or gone to France. Or not that I've heard a lot about the internet likes them out of fried Turkey for the first time great rarely first time. What's this? Hot. Cheetos Turkey thing have you seen this? No. Oh, yeah. You rub. The whole thing with Cheetos, and then you cook it SIMS been putting functions I believe as a as a topping because there's no carbs zoom somehow funny and says, no carbs in it a lot of tastes though. Fundings are so good favorites might not be funny and said if it's so good at probably has in if I guess when you hit the fronts giving or were you quiet. Do you talk in the situations? Do you know the people I'm pretty quiet in these situations? Yeah. I do know them all but outside of the office. Pretty quiet me too. By the way, I think what people don't know about me. I am a pretty quite personally talk enough during the week. Well, unless unless I get into a comfortable group. That's hear me talk much unless I'm amongst friends is what we call it. But boy, I do a lot of observing lot of observer. I'm always tired as I just sit back and take it until after. So I get to go home. And I got home for a man along one member in L A for five months. Five months. We didn't sleep either. By the way, it wasn't bad San frans- bat against crusher was up there. I saw him on his I g story. It was really bad. I saw him at the game. Yeah. He was he was a couple sections now so many people packed in. It was it was an interesting setup for that place. Just old soul the outside people in well the outside of the stadium to is only like fourteen yards deep. It's like so it's like real tight like if you wanna walk around. It's real tight. So if we wanted to get to a section over it would have taken a lot of battle to go see him. But it seemed like a lot of people are that's how Michigan I went to see miss twice. And that's how that stadium. I see these are individuals seats at least Michigan. It's. I am. Well, I think it's because those bowls are built out. Yeah. So they're built out like an amphitheater where some stadiums are built up. So I think whenever they built those out they had their their property lines. And they're like, okay. This is how much space we have. We can build it out. Exactly. Yeah. Instead of being like, oh, we shall I say for him for the humans to walk. Outside as well. You know, the humans walking because it was very title cramped granted. I don't go to many sporting events. So that might be how it is everywhere. I have no idea about it seemed like that was a tight space because the colts have a fucking colts have a mall out. So right walk to hear your take away from j world. I sue them. They have a lot of walking room outside. They got gogo dancers open. They have a fool operate. Magin if go go dancer takes a fall in the middle of the game. And I see it. Go go dancer has taken a tumble in far east corner here. I understand there's a lot going on the game. But this lady up here could've just broker. This is going to do well on the internet. We want to can we please? Here's my conversation with rich Eisen. Okay. So we are live in the rich Eisen studio. That's true is at the ATM or was the AT and T studios of the rich Eisen show. Have they always been AT and T studio where they the first one to come in. This is moved. Well, directtv owned it. This is the campus of direct TV, then AT and T bought direct TV plan was to do this all the time, though, this show that we started this show for years ago now, and it was direct TV. I was going on. I mean, I'm on after Dan Patrick on the direct TV dial up. So we built the studio here on the campus of direct TV, which got gobbled up by AT and T when that happened. Guess what the studio got caught? Remember, you're doing your podcast out of like a closet almost at the NFL network. Fact, you were in everybody was listening, the podcast was a very good podcast. So it was like whatever I was very lucky to be a guest on the show love it. When I got there. I saw what you were running just like a buck. It was just say what it was. Yeah. It was a podcast. And then, you know, when we first started part of the way for me to get to do this to be removed from, you know, my exclusively of the NFL network was that this this show would be broadcast on the platform called NFL now, which is that the digital stuff. Yeah. It was. I mean, it's that's the they started it, and they used to they used to break up this show by our and show the TV version on that not only live stream it live, but one hour each time. So like the first hour would be available. The second hour be available and third hour be available. On three different links on NFL now. And because of that when I asked the NFL to allow me to get all the podcast subscribers that I'd built up for all those years the NFL network. I asked him like, hey, you know, I built this thing up, and I'd like to now take that podcast listenership, which was subscriber base with six figures large. Yeah. Hugh, you know, how you know how difficult up your own. Yes. Show right now. Which is amazing. It's now two point. Oh, Pat, two point. Oh, I mean, we assume it's top ten exactly. I mean, you're pretty no. You nailed it. I mean, how difficult it is build up an audience. Everybody was listening to your show though. I mean, I listen. It was it was successful. But the reason why I bring all this up is the NFL network said because I had my show on the NFL now platform to be seen you'd had to you had a dream it. So I'm like, I'm like so people are going to be using their whole frigging data plan up for one hour of streaming. It's not the same as downloading a podcast. They refused to let me take my podcast or listenership to this show. So they just watched me flush one hundred thousand subscribers down the toilet. Well, I think you should be proud of that knowing that you built that. I always wondering why the podcast must be bitter and pissed about it years later, though, pet well see there's two different ways to look at it. I think you should not positive. Which I I was wondering why it wasn't simulcast it on NFL network. So I always just like whenever you because you saw the Dan Patrick show become right TV show. Basically they were radio show. I know people listen to them on radio. I only saw him on TV though, they were TV show. Then I saw you're doing with though your podcast right in my head. I was like this should be a simul because it seemed like the natural transition was we did during the lockout. They came to me. And they're like, we'd like to shoot your interviews. And then chop it up and do a half an hour like broadcast of and I'm like sure, let's do it. And we did that for like fifty six fifty seven straight weeks. Really? Yeah. See on the lockout. I was on a bender. I wanted to be well, let me tell you why. So I was in the substance abuse program going into the lockout so was getting drug tested eight times a month for twenty seven months straight. But in the middle of those twenty seven months sentence that I had was the lockout. So I couldn't I couldn't even be seen with a beer. I'd get fined basically, so nothing. So I go from partying a lot to for twenty seven months. I'm getting drug tested eight times a month at any given time. Right. I got pissed as an a four AM in Atlanta after hunting for Bigfoot. That's a true story by guy name Roger in the lobby of terrible hotel del no different. Roger Roger probably sent the bird call. Okay. Sounds good on for Bigfoot definitely on drugs. We need to go get him. But in the middle of that rich in the middle of that. There was the lockout. Yeah. Yeah. Drug testing ceased. So I went on. I said, I don't know how long it's going to last. But I'm gonna go ahead, and I am going to ruin myself here. So that when I get out of it. I don't want to drink. I don't wanna do anything. Okay. And that's what I want. So I missed a really good show from what I heard months where I was on a run. I was on quite run. Sounds like isn't as soon as the lockout ended. So got ended. You I didn't wanna touch. I was like done like, I don't wanna ever man. Yeah. It was a good. I don't know if I would have made the twenty seven straight. But I had like I. Exam extended time the NFL Denver tell you what you can. And can't talk about. No, never you told me. Roger Goodell told you that he wanted you to be real you could call them any given time then he's been a man of his word at that. During that lockout. I think I told the story on your show when I called in. But during the lockout we take the segment where I asked him. I question it was we taped it. I asked him. I question if you know the NFL's losing money. Why not open the books and show it? You know, if you're saying raising money question in the negotiation books because it gave us Green Bay, which is the publicly-owned Green Bay's only making this amount of money. And that was the big thing. The open books thing was everything. I brought it up that was history. First question of them how to hand. And then he goes well, wow. That's an interesting. I question your boss is what he said. No. He goes. That's what he said. He goes. Wow. That's an interesting first question, then he started answering it I forget how he answered it. But he answered the question, and then they get in my ear in the control room saying we gotta stop down is a television term for something's gone wrong. And so I was pissed because I asked a question of I thought like the most important question to start off the interview. So I started off the interview a second time, we re-taped it. And I asked a different question which is something to do with hold on hold on. Okay. So they stop the interview producer comes and goes by need to go to the bathroom. A drink or anything like that? And we start again. So you're does he get up or does he stay see stay seated you stay seated? No I walked about because I was pissed so you got a break. I needed a breather for a second. Like, I was pissed that I did this. And now it's now we have to bust or stop down in the business and starting in. So you saw you walk around. And I like that what is it five minutes signals, literally ninety seconds, two minutes. So everybody who just chilling just on satellite. Just wondering what the hell's going on everybody in there, though, new oh, you're in two different rooms, he's in New York. I'm in Los Angeles everybody in his room, though. And your room knew that it was shut down because the question you, ask them. No. I don't know. Why was shut down? I'm assuming there was something going on with a oh tech like technical something. Like that wasn't the question. You don't know. I've no idea what it was for correct. So mad because there was a chance you missed that golden moment, or if there was a moment that there could have been somebody in management in the NFL network going, wait a minute. We're not asking that question. I either one I needed to get an answer later on. I just never really found out the answer but idea, but you know, Roger sat there, and then I started the question again and. The question. I started was something to do with the draft. How the players association was threatening players to not show up. Yeah. Please don't door telling them don't show up for the draft. Even though they you know, you're not drafted yet. You're not in the league the union. So I wanted to ask him his thoughts on that. So I started that off that way. And then a few minutes into the question and answer ask the question again. And he gave me the answer again. The second time. I don't remember exactly was good deliver your same. But it was the I asked the question a good talk. But I didn't I didn't do it. I so I got an Email later on in the day from Roger Goodell saying, hey, I noticed when we started the interview again, you didn't ask the first question. I again, and I hope that's not because I started my answer with. Wow, that's an interesting. I question you should know that you should have every opportunity and feel free to ask me any question you want anytime. That's a fact I really thought this story was ending with Roger being protected by people. But instead it's the complete east like I just wanna make sure that when you didn't ask it again for me. It's not that hope he didn't take what I said is to be critical of anything. That's a fact that happened. That's insane to think about because you would think if you're like a state. Channel. Right. Well, I know you look it look, Pat where you're not at the NFL network. We are not going to go on a deep dive of what's going on in locker rooms. Okay. But we are free to talk about subjects like this incredible. Even with billions of dollars on the line. We are free to talk about like, I remember when we first started Thursday night football. You know, the question was when we were doing it. You know, what's it gonna be like can they criticize the coaches the referees? Can they call a game? Like the way that it should be called. And I remember, you know, I wanted to do the games I wanted to and what you're very good at it. I said. I've said on this show that you did very very I appreciate that. I've been waiting pretty much my whole damn life to do it. I've excited. Oh is like shot out of a cannon and wanted to make sure I got everything right? Because as you know, one best way to absolutely destroy your credibility in span of about three and a half hours is to botch. Calling a football game. There's a chance. Yeah. There are the ways to do it. I'm just talking about professionally we live in now to there isn't a drastic overreaction normally. So. That's why you shouldn't. She should maybe hover your thumb over the the send button before actually pressing down. Anyway. Long story short is I wanted to call games and Steve Bornstein who's running the network at the time. He says to me goes just not not not a chance. You haven't done it before we need you in the studio. That's what we're going to do. And plus, you know, we need to make sure that we hire the right guy in case anybody's wondering if we're going to do the right thing and calling the games. So they hired Bryant Gumbel coming out of the box who had just absolutely destroyed gene Upshaw on real sports for being like a tool of the NFL Tagliabue's in the NFL. So for the NFL network to come out and hire that guy with Chris Collins worth that was the way to communicate to everybody that we are understanding that in order for us to be successful. We can't be state television. And so we talk about, you know, everything coaches decisions, you know, I feel I am absolutely free to criticise refereeing as I see fit coaches as I see fit owners. General managers, I see fit. Do you ever regret anything? You said. No. Was there anything where you don't fix? So let me think about it for a second not off the top of my head. I I'm not saying anything, you would say bad. I'm just saying maybe when you laid your head down. You're like, I probably shouldn't have said that that's going to have a bigger consequence than I no not really not as long as I'm considering your voice carries weight. Maybe that time I ricochet shot you pissed at me about some other punter. I can't I was having a career year career you Pro Bowl run only two hundred and fifty thousand dollar bonus on the line in rich Eisen is promoting every putter in the NFL me. I had no idea I gave up zero return yards for like like probably three months of the season. I had no idea all this time. I was mighty would have been able to what might be a little bit with people's bonus money by talking him up on here. Specifically is a big deal. You. Because he's good friend of mine. Marquette really good friend of mine, really really good friend of mine, but the year I was having was untouchable and was king was the guy because I love his dancing and stuff like that. He was using. He was dancing on fourth downs. He's a good friend of mine, your style too. I talked about your style Jesse happen though. Like he was on ESPN. This punter has a personality. This is crazy. I'm like thousand fucking tickets. I cannot stand up comedy. For the worldwide leader in sports what they do is their own business. But you Dag rape behind him. You check right behind him. He was so this is the great runner on earth on like he is very good. I agree. I I helped coach him. I think he's really good. Career year here, and there is a quarter of a million dollars on the line. And now, I got this rich is in Burien me on TV. It was like a week. I'd idea made the privilege college is I ended up making the Pro Bowl anyway. So I was very happy about that. But I was mad at you know, I don't regret anything then. Well, you did. This weekend. Good weekend. Football is amazing. Right. Good. We you're you're colts, dude. Unbelievable. Hot rod are. But they're Lux not getting touched so i-i-in Kelly Quinton, no sin Costanzo is back healthy as well. And I don't know the other two dudes names. But that offensive line is doing they a lot of local interviews for the old line coach, by the way in Indy. Okay. And he's very much like, hey, guys. We're in this together type thing he the line and him like each other. Okay. It's a great thing. But t y Hilton predicted he was gonna have a hundred and fifty yards in two touchdowns. Did you see that with Edward James now before the game Edgerrin James is air because Reggie Wayne it, right? I've ever talked to but congrats originally and seven years in the same locker room. Congrats to him getting his the ring of honor in the jacket you on the list yet. Yeah. Only person in the building. Reggie did. Yeah. Do you need me to talk to him for that wish come this for now? Now, it's a thing. Now, you can make some hay of it. Okay. He is very good. He was one of the best workers. But Payton, obviously is a machine, but that group that first generation of people there where it was. I Jeff Saturday Gary bracket Reggie way. You're just go. Ryan dances. Right. Math is white free. Me that group there Ryan low Joe was also a pretty big leader now locker room bright Viteri was there. But that group they're the way they worked Alice Clark. Yeah. Dallas clark. I can't believe I forgot about Clarence Clark gloves. Dallas cork made no sense a bunch of bananas right now. They just look like a bunch of bananas going. He was that group knew how to work Reggie, Wayne. I wasn't a teammates with Marvin Harrison I've had conversations with him couple times. Marv. Marv seems to be a fan which is good. It's good to have Marvin here. But. Watching Reggie work was something special. And I think it's really cool that he got up there. And how they just they just pounded the titans destroyed them. I knew there. I bet very very heavily on the colts. Because anytime the oh, jeez. Are in a building the team normally wins for us and against us whenever I was playing. Yeah. Whenever Peyton return or something anytime, there's a tribute that team normal shows out that something to think about if it's ex players if it's like coach or management or something like probably not. But if it's ex players it's a big deal, but Adron James before the game, by the way, James of worthy most entertaining humans on earth. I've met him. Yeah. Absolutely. He has a an adult ballet that he runs down and not know that. Yeah. Down house dance, a local house dance down in Florida. Yeah. No kidding. It's called one gentlemen's club. And then he just got franchise. He has a one cigar shop in Atlanta now, so editor James as a monopoly brewing in the one cigar loudly. You guys have flare they got flare the guys from the u. Yes, that was back when you was due to by the way, I'll tell you good story. This. So the Pro Bowl when it was in south, Florida. I think it was nine the Pro Bowl. Okay. That was the Super Bowl, right? Just I'm sorry to bring that anyone nine candidate. Okay. But that's when it was remember they brought it to Fort Lauderdale and traveled at the Super Bowl. They're thinking for a while. Right. So we did our the AFC practiced at Michael Irvin's high school Saint Thomas acquaintance in four. So we set up shot. We did our shows from Saint Thomas acquaintance that Michael Irvin's high school. So Irv was part of the broadcast every day. And I was there too. And we had at the time. Two players act is our correspondents for the teams for the teams during practice and MAURICE Jones. Drew was our AFC correspondent for the NFC practice. Okay. Because he was on the AFC Jackson the NFC. I forget who is the NFC for the practice. So MAURICE Jones drew who's now, you know on the NFL network, and he does Rams schemes by the way, he's really really good. He'd never done TV before it was his first time ever. So mean, Irv and Dion were on the set. And we I said to him on like when you send you out there on live TV, if you have any problems, the safe words are back to you rich. Yes. Just allow me if you have any problems you run into any issues, you've do you have trouble? Getting the words out or the microphone goes down. A camera goes down on there for you. The safe words are back to you rich, and I'll handle it. Okay. So we throw to him with Frank oar. Okay. I love Frank Frank. Gorgeous likes football men. Frank gore is is hall face should be hall of Famer. I don't wanna hear it. Just because he's never won a title is nothing. I mean, he's an amazing amount agree with you. Okay. So Frank gore pads either he's these nuts plays tackle football. No pedic. So he's on the NFC team. And he's out there and MAURICE Jones drew starts talking to him. Hey, I'm here with Frank gore. Neither Frank didn't know they were on the air live or he was just being Frank gore starts talking about going to the script club in Miami. That's going on and on about what they're gonna do like, you should come and whatever and me Dion and urban are on the other side of the field screaming. The got in his ear like he goes back to you rich. The three of us are on the set just dying me and Dion and Irv like screaming back to you sp- ammonia, Tony. So now got a house at dance himself. Now man it's about before the game. He's in Walker now edge lottery spec for locker room, he has TY in a selfie video on his Instagram. And he goes, how are we going to do TY into goes we bought to cut up an editor and goes one hundred two hundred dollars. I mean, he goes one fifty with two tugs in any at one fifty five and two touchdowns. It's like using what a day they look how do we get Edgerrin James in that locker room before every fucking game? Let's not being touched. And he's probably not worried about is protection at. He might have had that issue in the first two three weeks four weeks, but not anymore. Frank Reich is he's got the commanded the team. He's they're winning. He's giving good speeches after games. It seems like everybody's responding. Andy put a DJ in the intro tunnel, by the way. Yeah, they need. It gets there needs to be a little juice in that stadium stadiums, very comfortable. The seats are like recliners it's eats too comfortable in there. So gets a little quiet Payton head everybody, quiet true. So now the place is kind of like trying to find an identity again, it's been like this for a couple of years. They put a DJ in their mo- bombo was by some for the game. I've never seen a team more late old white people in Indiana were like. Ballboy balkan. Aw. Sorta McAfee doing that. What was your takeaway from the weekend? You tweeted out a bad thing about Kirk. You took a shot at Kirk cousins. I didn't know that the presentation of some facts and not others is called taking a shot. And that's interesting shot. Kirk cousins is now foreign twelve in is career primetime games. That's fact, that is that is definitely a fact, and you media people I understand he has that is certainly affect. But the fact that I'm tweeting it out as soon as he steps over his Johnson is God. That's a problem primetime game. You're taking a shot there at the it's a fact I got eighty four million reasons to tune me out. I'm on your side here. I bet very heavily on the Vikings money line. So I'm not happy with that fucking guy either. I ain't happy with them. But that's wheat was insane. To me. Do you think that's something that was thought about while his contract was happening or do, you know, they thought like this guy threw for four thousand yards in Jay Gruden system for three years running? Let's bring him with digs and feeling and all those guys and we'll start going and cooked can't stay healthy. And. Feeling had an amazing I eight weeks and digs is amazing. Rudolph has disappeared. I thought for sure with the way that Jordan was the start of the of the offense for Kirk cousins in Washington DC, the call Rudolph would be out of his mind, but he's hardly doing a darn thing. I don't know what's going on man. But all I know is that when the games on aligned when Peyton Manning was struggling every single game Brady struggling games when he's struggling. And you what's going to happen? You get a chance to drive ninety yards to tie the game. With a two point conversion in somebody's house. You're going to rip their heart out and show it to the bears faithful pump. And instead he throws a pick six two. That's not acceptable. Did you enjoy Cam Newton's them going for two there? I thought that was bizarre. Why would you do it? I don't know. They're not a team that's out of it too. It's like early in the season Frank Reich one four on fourth and something in overtime and his own with like a minute Leno doesn't make love to have it back. That's the way Houston doesn't have a tie Houston as a win. That was the big. I mean at the time it was well, the colts aren't going anywhere. Anyway, was the general sense of the way people looked at it. But that can actually come home to. Roost, but I would like to say that that actually helped inspire the locker room to know that he's on their side. Yeah. Like last night. I was watching game day prime with Dion LT. Chryssa and forget Dion made a comment that like on the plane somebody there is saying that he don't trust us that the defense is like he don't trust us. Like he went for two because he doesn't think we can stop them. Like he was saying that I didn't see that at all anytime. I coach goes forward. I like it. I like a coach at wants the win just as bad as I do. I think is that these paid to make the smarter decision. A problem. I think is what we were talking about on our show earlier today said Graham, Gano put the gun in the know in connote more than once again. And he just didn't go once for thirty three yards to keep it on. So raise to three hours a better shot. Is that is that he you know, he beat the giants from sixty three yards and then against the lines. He can't shoot straight. I know. It's so I mean, it's amazing how that works. But yeah, it was bizarre. Because so you're just taking. You're just taking overtime out of play. Really? He said, it's either a winner lost. Now winner overtime. I'd rather go or it's not seventy a winner. It's either a winner loss not overtime loss. And I'd rather go overtime loss rather than just winner loss because you still giving you're still Stafford still had three timeouts in a minute. Three to go minute to left. Yeah. Minute three. Yeah. I agree with them mishits bad. I know that's terrible. I try not to watch it. Just try keeping moving. I know who's you don't want to Super Bowl. Well, we're taping. This about tease for our Smith, by the way, I know. So we're so we're we're about four and a half hours away from kickoff of a game that I think will help determine that a little bit. But I had the Rams and patriots before the season. And when you pick, you know, games nationally, like I'm fortunate enough to do that allows me the ability to stick with it the entire season unless it's so thoroughly wrong than I run run far away from it you start making a new prediction. So right now since my first prediction is still quite viable. I'm going to stick with it. Saints. Look, really good. I know that breaches the MVP. He's never won the MVP. He's he's going to win an MBA. We were talking about earlier today that you know, that you know, Scorsese one for the departed because he'd never won before. And the department was just pretty damn good enough. And certainly in that year's. Batch of films. It was the best. Although it's not his best. This is breezes best. This is his best. This is maybe best team in his best performance. He's not missing anything. It's unbelievable. He's playing at a high level. He's not getting touched when he is getting touched. He's bouncing right back up. It's awesome. Teddy Bridgewater gets cooked by case keenum. Gets bounced around the league jets. Now, he's at saints. Vikings quarterback four and twelve teddy Bridgewater probably gonna have a Super Bowl. It's amazing happy for and he should be the quarterback of the Jaguars next year. Teddy bridgewater. Oh, yeah. He's a free agent. He's gonna be amazing free, tastes them hill. What about them? Do you see him ever becoming somebody's quarterback? Yeah. I don't know do you. It'd be fun to watch. I know I think it'd be a lot of fun. It was on this show. He'd get killed. He's at his nickname in there in the locker room is taste some of this. Oh, the storm and Mormon. Big. Thank you to rich. You're always so nice to do. And it's it's great having you on every time you're on our the reaction from our fan base is through the roof. Well, I appreciate you. You let me on for you coming back in January. I don't know. I guess I got to figure out my life right now. I wasn't supposed to be here today. I somehow finagled away into going to the Monday night football game was asked to go. It's meant to be then. 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Connecting Our Physical, Psychological and Spiritual Health

The Plant Path

28:35 min | 2 years ago

Connecting Our Physical, Psychological and Spiritual Health

"Hey there. Everybody Ceja Popham here founder of the school of Evelyn canary herbalism and in this week's blog episode. I wanted to talk about the importance of being able to see the connection between what's going on in our physical bodies with our thoughts, our emotions and ultimately to our souls development here on this mother earth last week. I was talking about medical astrology, and how the astrological model gives us as herbalist this incredibly powerful tool in framework for developing a truly holistic model in the sense that we see the whole person and the whole plant in connection to the wholeness of nature, and you know, people ask me all the time. Like how does that work like how? Exactly does medical astrology work. And how does it allow us to see that connection between Hannah the physical symptoms of our body and the patterns that we experienced throughout our lives in terms of our emotions, and our feelings and our thinking, and how that relates to our spiritual development, and you know, one of the ways that I like to think of this is just basically looking at the human being right and thinking through what are the main organizational levels of are being right like how how is a human being put together so to speak and one of the most simple ways of approaching that is based on the threefold model used in the western chemical tradition where they say that everything in nature is composed of these three philosophical principles what they refer to as Sofer mercury and salt. And those correlate to the soul the spirit and the body respectively. And the in terms of just real quick that difference between the soul and the spirit in the western isle? Chemical model, you know, the spirit it kinda relates to our psychological processes, our feelings, our emotions and to the vital force that kind of animates our body. They say that that there's one universal spirit that moves through all things. Whereas the soul is our own unique individual expression of consciousness, it's our unique purpose and path in this life. It's our soul as one of a kind and unique unto itself was like, my soul is different from from your souls from their soul, and there's everyone has their own unique soul. But there's one universal spirit that unites and connects us all so I really like. Having that orientation around like what is the holistic person? Right. We've got our body. We've got our our mind, and our heart or feelings, and then we also have our soul and the astrological lens enables us to see all three of those layers of a person specifically through the birth chart. Right. And so a lot of folks are like how does how does the strategy work? You know, like like how how does it how how is it that a planet way out there in the cosmos can directly affect us down here on earth. And you know, there's a lot of argument on that topic of discussion. It's a big one. You know, a lot of folks out there really want some sort of scientific proof and understanding, and I'm not sure that there is super solid scientific linear analytical reductionist proof of exactly. How astrology works for my understanding of it. There are theories of it being based on electromagnetic wavelengths being emitted by these planets that than are received here on earth and affect life on earth. Right and everything in nature has an electromagnetic dimension to it and all electromagnetic wavelengths, convey information and influence, physical matter. But from looking at the tradition of strategy, you know, they say that and I'm just for clarity's sake. I'm really referring to our western tradition of strategy tropical astrology that is the tradition that was used in western alchemy and used throughout the renaissance era practice of medical astrology, which is the primary way that I've been trained in medical astrology. So that's kind of the system that I'm approaching this with, but they say that, you know, at the moment, you're. Born these planets and are moving through these signs of the zodiac with the turning of the seasons, and it's based on the solstice and the equinoxes, right? That cardinal cross of the turning of the seasons, and those planetary powers are moving at certain rates through those archetypes of the signs, right? And you know in tropical astrology, we're not looking at planets in actual star constellations that's the dominion of Sediri astrology in western astrology. We're really looking at seasonal patterns here on earth, and because the orientation of tropical astrology is more. It's more earth Centric, it tends to have a more of a physiological orientational as compared to seduce cereal system of astrology, and my primary teacher and medical astrology. Judith hill. Hill who's well versed in both scenarios or did yo- Tisch system as well as tropical she says that for medical purposes, the tropical system is actually much more well developed and refined and precise than the serial system of astrology. Both are great. Both are accurate both are profound. But the way I was trained as that that tropical model is preferable to the scenario system for medical purposes, anyways, little digression there. But I say that when we're born that moment, we take our first breath of life. Those astral influences these archetypal forces as represented by the planets and the signs kinda stamp their influence upon us. And their influences are determining a majority of the factors of our life. Right in the sense of our body are const. A to Shen how're organ systems function. Some, you know, maybe some of us are excessive in some areas of the body or deficient or weak in other parts of the body. You know, it's like why is it that some people are really prone to, you know, wet Fleming cops and wires some people prone to hyper inflammatory allergic conditions, and why are some people prone to digestive problems and others are prone to thyroid problems, right? It's like, what is it that makes us predisposed to certain types of disease from the medical astrology model? It's based on how those planets and signs are oriented in our birth chart, which lead to certain excesses and deficiencies that we express, you know, for those familiar with the ir vedic model. They say that we have a core constitution that were born into. And they call that are not right are great nature our own unique nature and in the strategy. We could see that that Procter t- that core constitution is represented by our birth chart. But then as we go throughout living our lives, and, you know, thinking certain ways and feeling certain ways and living in a certain environment and eating certain foods, and developing certain habits and patterns and rhythms that constitution changes. Right. That we get these different influences change kind of putting layers on top of that core constitution, and sometimes that becomes pathological and in Iran, and they referred that as our victory or are assumed constitution. That is layered on top of our innate constitution in astrology. This is represented by transit's. Right. So you have your core basic Natal chart, but those four. Forces are continuing to move, and so and influence us. And so as those transit's happen, it's changing the way that our body is functioning, and you know, they say that the Natal chart is like a it's like a garden, and it's all these seeds planted and the transits are like the weather. You know, the how much sun is getting and how much moisture is it getting in our we water which seeds are we watering? And are they going to grocery and healthy or not and a lot of that is determined by how we choose to respond to these astrological influences that we face. And so the thing is is that is that the chart equally represents our bodies, our psych our psychology as well as our soul. So it's one map one blueprint. That represents the wholeness of who we are. Or from the chemical perspective that represents the salt the mercury and the Sofer level of our being and in that way. What does is it allows you to see connections? It allows us to see the relationship between the the lessons that are soul needs to learn to further its growth and development and connecting that to the structure of our mind, and the way our thoughts are in the way, our feelings are and then connects back to the state of our body right either our state of health or lack of health, and so it becomes this incredibly precise tool to allow you to see those connections. And I think this is really important because it's really easy in common for us to see, you know, the spirit over here and. The mind over here and the body over here in the kind of compartmentalize them like little boxes around them and to isolate them from one another but in holistic medicine, we really see just holistic approaches to life. We see that the body is just the most fixed or condensed material aspect of the soul. And conversely, our soul is the most volatile or subtle or ethereal aspect of the body. They're not separate. It reminds me of this great saying from Osho, and he says, you know, the human being is an organic unity onto itself that you know, when we say body, mind and soul. He's like the little commas between body, comma, mind, comma, and soul. He's like the little comma and the space and the and. Is really dangerous because it makes us think of them as separate. He says, it should really just be body mind soul, like one word body, mind soul, and represent the wholeness of who we are. But ultimately as an organic unity unto ourselves that weren't not just a wholeness onto ourselves. But we're connected to these greater forces of nature, which includes the cosmos, right? It includes these celestial forces represented by the Astro logical pattern. And so when we're looking at a person as an herbalist when we're working with a person in a clinical context, our goal is always defined the root cause right? We don't wanna just put bandaids on symptoms or definitely not suppress symptoms. And certainly we don't want to give herbs that might harm someone or lead to further inbalance, we need to really be able to work with someone in a way where. We can figure out what's going on. What's going on? That's creating the problems that they're having and it can be really easy to look at those three little boxes. Those seemingly separate parts of the self as where the root causes is like we can think of oh, there's a physical problem. So the that the root cause must be on a physical level, or, you know, there's a spiritual problem or a psychological issue. So the root of it must be on the psychological level. But really they can cross over between one another because they're not separate, right? A great example of this is with simple common symptoms associated with food intolerance, you know, one of the main symptoms that people get after doing like a six week elimination diet, and they're eliminating foods that they're allergic or intolerant to end they tell. Test those foods, they reincorporate those foods. Maybe they eat the gluten or the dairy or the corner, the soy or whatever it is that problems with very commonly one of the first symptoms that they get is irritability and kind of a lack of concentration brain fog, kind of lack of focus or even things like anxiety or depression. So those are like, psychological dynamics, but the root of it is on this physiological level. So and the other thing of this is that it's really common in more. I guess new age approaches to spirituality or more SO teric approaches to health that you know, they say all disease is rooted on a spiritual level or on an emotional level and trickles down to affect the body. And yes that is true. But. One of the great savings in alchemy and astrology is as above so below but as within so without as below so above it's like it. It's a mere. And so yes, a disease can be routed on the spiritual or psychological or emotional level and gradually trickle down to affect the body. But the reverse is also true, right? That something going on in the body can move up and affect our mind and our emotions and our spirit. You know, one example of that aside from food intolerances thinking of someone with chronic pain, you know, someone that has chronic like Sibert pain all the time in their physical body. It's very common for them to get depressed about it. You know, maybe they love to go skiing or hiking or play sports with their kids. And then they have this chronic pain, and they can't do those things and that can be kinda depressing. Right. And so that's just another example of how a physical thing can. Really affect the mind and our psyche. So one of the things that so cool about the Ashra logical model is that it's our western system of energetic, anatomy, and physiology rate each of the archetypes in astrology, the planets and the elements and the signs all relate to certain organs systems in tissue types and parts of the body, but they also represent psychological functions. They represent emotional states. They represent. Lessons that we have to learn as a soul. And so what this enables us to do is when someone has a constitutional weakness or they have chronic issues in a certain part of the body it enables us to see through seeing the Astro ruler of that part of the body say, for example, the liver in how the liver is attributed to Jupiter. Well, now, if someone has chronic liver stuff going on we can cert c oh what's the pattern of Jupiter in how it's relating in their psyche and on their soul. And so, you know, a lot of times we turn to eastern systems of medicine for that kind of an understanding, right? We're we look at the Chinese model and the way they understand the organs and their connections to the five elements and these phases of transformation and the seasons and how they. Late to psychological, emotional, dynamics, or are your data and how they relate the dough Shas and the dot twos. Tissues and constitutions to these psycho spiritual patterns, a lot of folks don't realize that we have a very refined system of that in the west as well, and it is medical astrology. So it becomes this incredibly powerful tool. That's very similar to you know, looking at the the meridians or the Chaka's, right? And it's the same pattern. Really? You know, we think of oh in medical Shala. Gee, there's seven inner planets the sun, the moon Mars, Venus Jupiter, Saturn and mercury. Well in the system. They have seven chop gross right in western in medical, Charlotte. We've got twelve signs of the zodiac Chinese medicine has twelve Meridian's that relate to these. Organ systems. It's literally it's the same blueprint the same map the same architecture of the human being just looked at through a slightly different lens slightly different words, slightly different cultural perspectives on it. But when you really get to the root of it. They're talking about the same thing. And I think this is incredibly empowering for folks that are would consider themselves western herbalists, right that we actually have a very rich very old tradition of understanding the human being within this greater holistic context that allows us to see those connections between the body the psyche and the soul, and you know, just to share an example of a case study where this was like, very became very very clear to me is I love this case study because. I share it a lot because I think it illustrates the power of medical strategy in your work with clients. So I had a client one time few years ago, and she was having chronic urinary tract infections rate. She was getting these really hot irritated burning very uncomfortable. Urinary tract infections that you know, what she'd get a few of them a year for a number of years. And so we see the kidneys and the bladder and the ureter is that whole urinary system is. Week raid. It's weakened it's prone to imbalance in medical astrology. They say that the the kidneys and the urinary tract are ruled by the planet, Venus, right, Venus is the archetype associated with harmony and balance and relationship and maintaining balance and harmony in our relationships in our lives right in our mind in the psyche. It represents the our connection to other people or other beings and our ability to really to experience love, right love and connection. And harmony, and this is why Venus's commonly attributed to the arts music, and dance and creativity. Because it's that that aesthetic connection that feeling based connection with another, and this particular client when we kind dug into the case further. It turns out this. She had been in was in currently of really unhealthy relationship. Right. She was with a person that was abusive emotionally, sometimes physically. And she felt really stuck like she didn't know how to get out. There was some she was kind of angry about it. And and frustrated and scared and didn't know how to get out of this really bad situation. And this wasn't the first time that she had found herself in a relationship of that nature. And so that was another indication that Venus was imbalanced. So what we did we worked with a particular? Herbal remedy called cleavers or gallium apparition. And this is a the news in remedy it works through the kidneys. And urinary tract as a diorama Eric, and so that relates cleavers to Venus, we also see Venus, in the way, the way cleavers grows likes to grow in these really lush moist beautiful habitats in the forest for those of you familiar with cleavers. We know one of the biggest signatures of this plant is that it's kind of sticky. Right. It's like. Get clings on to everything you walk by cleavers patch, and it'll be all over your pants when you come out of the forest, and it's like it wants to come home with you, you know, but that's a signature of this relationship dynamic that cleavers has it's like the only way it can really grow up is by being in relationship with its neighbouring cleavers or other plants, and that's another signature for Venus. Right. And one of the things that we've found and not just myself. But a lot of clinical herbalists have found is that cleavers is very specific for helping people that have kind of these attachment issues. Right. I mean, it's kind of right there in the signature of the planet clings onto things. It has a hard time letting go and in this context specifically around relationships right people that are in unhealthy relationships that. They have a hard time getting out of they can't navigate through it. There's like things get really tangled up in their relationships. And so we I had ministered a spur jerk preparation of cleavers, which ensured is the spirits are a way of preparing herbal medicines based on the western isle. Chemical tradition where you're concentrating the chemistry the energetics as well as the spirit of the plant based on its astrological ruler ships. And so we administered the cleavers Pejic essence and the urinary tract infection subsided, very quickly at cooled than soothe everything down kinda flush the urinary tract clean and over time as she worked with the cleavers. She started to see her whole relationship her patterning around relationships from. A very different orientation and ultimately ended up getting out of that unhealthy relationship. And she really ended up taking that time that she needed for herself to come back to herself come back into harmony with her own self, find her own self, and, cultivate, those virtues within herself that ultimately she would want to have in a partner. And now, she is in a very happy healthy relationship with someone that cherishes her and takes good care of her and loves her dearly and hasn't had this chronic urinary tract infection issue since then. So what this case does what this case illustrates is how. We can see this connection. Right that I'm talking about between the body the spirit, and the soul, and how a holistically prepared herbal medicine can address that the essence of the pattern the essence of what's going on rather than just, you know, given some you've to knock out the UTI. It's like there's something deeper going on here. And what we see is that from an astrological perspective of medicine and healing is that there's these archetypes of astrology sometimes give us a hard time. Right. When we're not in harmony with them when we're not expressing their qualities and characteristics in their most virtuous way, they start to give us a hard time. And sometimes that can lead to them making a sick. And they're trying to ultimately wake us up. Right. It's like they're trying to say, hey, you're not. Living in accordance with my rules with my law with my force. And this is a common way of looking at just human life in these western esoteric traditions. Is that our goal is a human being is to come into harmony with all of nature. Right. The nature outside of us and the nature inside of us and to embody an express the highest most healthiest virtues of these archetypes. And so ultimately what these archetypes are doing is trying to get our attention. They're trying to wake us up. They're trying to say, hey, you need to heal. This part of yourself to further in your souls development. And that really is what I strive to do. Strive to teach at the school of evolutionary herbalism is training herbalist in how to see those patterns and be able to use plant. In a way that supports not just the physical healing. But that spiritual development side too. Because I think that's why we're here on this earth. I think it's one of the reasons we have this life is to heal and to grow and to learn and to progress in our souls development, and the astrological pattern is an incredibly powerful system that enables us to do just that. So I'd love to hear what your thoughts are on that bleed me a comment below. And if you're watching this anywhere, but the Evelyn canary herbalism blog check us out over there. Evelyn herbalism dot com. Fear on YouTube. Sure to subscribe to our channel check out our podcast on Stitcher, and I tunes, and you can follow us to and get daily updates on our Instagram and Facebook channels, and thanks so much for tuning in to this recent issue of the urban. Listen blog, and I hope that you learn something new here. And this this understanding of astrology is maybe starting to open up your lens of perspective and perception on some different approaches and tools that we can gather as herbalists to to help people and to the best of our abilities. So thanks so much for tuning in until next week take care and be well.

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The Ocho: Cowboys Camp to be held in Frisco, TX

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11:29 min | 1 year ago

The Ocho: Cowboys Camp to be held in Frisco, TX

"UFC Two fifty kicks off this Saturday and draftkings the leader in one day. Fantasy sports is giving you a free shot at a one million dollar top prize with your first deposit. It's easy to play and for a limited time draft kings is offering both new and existing users a deposit bonus up to five hundred dollars. Download the draft kings at now and. And Use Promo Code SP nation to get a free shot at the one million dollar top prize with your first deposit that's Promo. Code SBA nation to get a free shot at one million dollars with your first deposit, only at draftkings minimum five dollar deposit required deposit bonus requires a twenty five times playthrough eligibility restrictions apply see draftkings dot com for details. What up to welcome. To another episode of the Osho presented you in partnership as always nations, blogging boys dot com. My Name Arjo Choi. You Know Me of course. And from writer as humble host onto the Ocho, this is our episode for Wednesday June Third Two thousand twenty. We hope all is well wherever you are. We hope you're happy. Safe, healthy, practicing, social distancing, and as we have mentioned, we know that there is a lot going on in our world right now and in our country, and we hope that talking about the Dallas cowboys brings you some level of joy I mentioned this episode for Wednesday but it is flying somewhat early. Dropping this Tuesday evening Tuesday late afternoon. Actually we did have a brand new episode of the seven five with myself to ten superbowl champion Tony Casillas. Guessed Edward or some actually go and check that out. The three of US talked about Dak. Prescott Jimmy, Johnson and a bunch. We talked about Jimmy in the hall of fame enshrinement. May Be happening a different way, or we really don't know obviously so much is known about the summer, but something that is known something that we had been wondering about for a long time is the status of training camp and I guess. I shouldn't say that we know the status we at the very least, though no. The location on Tuesday afternoon. It was reported that the NFL has told all of its teams that they. They must stay at their team facilities for this summer's training camps. That's almost exactly what Adam schefters. tweet reads verbatim and a lot of NFL teams hold their training camps at their facilities. If you've watched hard knocks you've you've seen you know how different teams like the Houston Texans more often than not have hosted it in Houston kind of right by their stadium, the forty niners or a team that does that the Patriots. As well out of teams are kind of in their own neck of the woods. Sometimes teams go to a certain place. Like the Texans went to the greenbrier once. But the Dallas cowboys have obviously held their training camp in oxnard California for basically all of the entire Jason Garrett era. Almost all of it the last time the cowboys held training camp anywhere but oxnard. California was in two thousand and eleven, and it was in San Antonio then. We've talked about that before I've before ever living in San, Antonio Myself. I went to cowboys training camp in in the Alamo City, and it was great and Casey Phillips from Tampa Bay buccaneers on. She talked about her experience, Antonio and so I know. You know throughout my life. Here in the to ten a lot of San Antonio. INS would love to see cowboys training camp return, but hard to beat Oxnard I mean. If you've ever been to cowboys camping talks yard, California, the weather's great, and it's amazing, and it's California and whatnot, but obviously our world has been drastically impacted by the COVID, nineteen, pandemic and social distancing. Is Our way of life, and traveling as we know, it has been significantly changed for who knows how long and so we'd all been wondering what was going to happen with training camp in. Now. The NFL said you gotta stay home in. The cowboys are fortunate that they have. You know the Star and Frisco and last week Mike McCarthy when he met with reporters, kind of I thought he was dropping breadcrumbs, or at least preparing people Mike McCarthy mentioned that the cowboys had an oxnard plan and had Frisco plan and I thought that was the opening of the door because. I just want to one day randomly. Say Hey, we're going to Frisco you. WanNa have at least you know prepared people for that potential, because in other reality. Is You know this is a big bummer for the city of Oxnard you know it's a big boost to their economy. Certainly and you know that happens a lot of things I. I used to have a friend who lives in canton. Ohio and she talked a lot. Lot about how you know the hall of fame and Trimbe in the weekend and the week that they have is so big for that city's economy, and you know the cowboys going to train in Oxnard brings a lot of people, so many people head out to Oxnard to watch the couch train and you know eat at local spots. Stay in AIRBNB hotels. I've talked many times here about toppers pizza, and how incredible it is. So. This is a big bummer I mean I've been fortunate enough to go to oxnard California for cowboys camp the last three years, but with it now in Frisco. Who knows I if you have not listened to the 750 with Ed Order You know at one point. I asked what he thought. Coverage of the NFL could look like in two thousand twenty, because even with the cowboys training at the star they do have an indoor facility and an outdoor facility, obviously and obviously hot and Texas in the summer, so maybe they'll be inside the Ford Center a little bit more than they would be otherwise but. I don't know if fans are going to be able to go. I don't know how many media members are going to be able to go I. Don't know how many credentials they're going to hand out. Things like that I mean there's just so much that is unknown. What we do know now is that training camp will be at the star and Frisco and if you have to be any team staying home for training camp again, you want to be the Dallas cowboys. I think the second team is the Minnesota Vikings. I, don't know the name of their complex I think it's sponsored actually, but it is. It is up there I mean they're they're training. Complex is is is beautiful by. Yeah this is just this is this is our world in so many ways and I think it's smart to err on the side of caution and to be safe. Obviously, safety is the top priority for teams. So, we will see you know if there are any other changes. You know for the NFL. You know as football season approaches, you know. Training camp is scheduled to begin next month as we now are officially in the month of June In the NFL. Is You know as we all know has forged on? They performed free agency and the draft in socially distanced ways, and they're still. You know seemingly going forward with training camp albeit some adjustments like I said some teams won't really have to adjust because they hold training camp at their home venues. Anyway but this is. This is without question. This is a big deal. In we'll see we'll see what all this means. There are still more questions and that is kind of where we're at with all this. There are so many questions and every time you ask a question you start to answer it. You know within those answers you develop more questions and I know. We've all been living our lives that way and so the cowboys will host training camp at the Star and Frisco Oxnard and if you haven't been to Oxnard. I, hope and I pray that someday. Maybe twenty twenty one to cowboys. Get back out there because it really is fine, it really is special. It's the small. Corner of California, that's really beautiful in its own way, and so it is a big bomber that the cowboys won't be able to be out there and. We'll see. We'll see you know what that means and you know what's what's been interesting is in years past is the cowboys have always kind of turned their training camp in California into their first preseason game, obviously typically being in the same state. Typically. They've taken the train. You know sometimes you know it's a huge stay in California and who knows. What all that's going to be now especially with the fact that you know. When Jerry Jones went into the hall of fame, all the cowboys went to Ken to watch that ceremony, and you would have imagined that something similar would have gone down with Jimmy, Johnson going in this year, but we don't know what that's going to look like as mentioned. like I said talk about that with with Tony Ed on the seven five zero, but. Cowboys camp in Oxnard California not excuse me. It's still you just get used to that. Used to saying certain things and leaning on certain idea, so the Dallas cowboys for the first time, since two thousand eleven will host training camp somewhere other than California. The left coast in many people's opinions the best coast. Yeah I think again I. I know I've said this already, but if you have to adjust in this way, you wanna be the cowboys because you've got a world class facility in the star in Frisco that is capable of handling this and nobody has to travel. Nobody has to get on a plane. Nobody to do any of that. You don't have to I. Know Chelsea's talked about this on girl's talking boys on here. You know the cowboys have sent huge trucks with all of their training equipment medical equipment to Oxnard so they don't have to do that now, but. You know our thoughts. Certainly what the people have oxnard our thoughts with everybody is mentioned right now. I know these are heavy times and. If you WANNA talk about anything. About cowboys, camp or Oxnard, Frisco, whatever I am on twitter or Instagram at Rj Ocho my are open. You can always shoot me an email as well. RJ OCHO AT ESPIONAGE DOT COM. If you haven't make sure to subscribe to the blog on the boys pyeho Caspian. We are available wherever you get your podcast. That's apple devices. spotify tune in radio stitcher we're. We're we're and we've got to shows two episodes at drop every single day to make sure covered head to toe in Dallas cowboys content. We appreciate so much that you choose to make us party. Dallas cowboys fan experience. We love talking about the cowboys I. Love doing it with you. We love having fun in that way and we hope that this is. Brad your little bit of joy. Through these times so be well. Be well. All of you and do me a huge favor. Have the absolute best Wednesday of all time you know why because you deserve it, we will see. Many of my friends is always go cowboys. Out UFC, two, fifty kicks off this Saturday and draftkings the leader in one day. Fantasy sports is giving you a free shot at a one million dollar top prize with your first deposit. It's easy to play and for a limited time draft kings is offering both new and existing users a deposit bonus up to five hundred dollars. Download the draftkings APP now and use Promo Code SP nation to get a free shot at the one million dollar top prize with your first deposit. 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The Porn Reboot Podcast Episode 175: You Are Valuable

The Porn Reboot Podcast

23:44 min | 1 year ago

The Porn Reboot Podcast Episode 175: You Are Valuable

"Welcome to the porn route podcast where you get practical tips to gaining control over your porn or sex addiction. I'm your host, Jay Maisy certified sex and porn addiction recovery coach. Welcome to the episode. Today, we're going to speak about accepting yourself and your value. This is a very basic message which I'm sharing today but it does bear repeating and something I. Feel we have to constantly remind ourselves off especially if you deal with a lot of shame and feelings off low self worth because of your repeated slips or your repeated relapses, you find yourself sometimes seeking acceptance from other people or trying to influence and control their acceptance of you. If you find yourself doing that don't be surprised and the reason why say don't be surprised because. There are individuals who have high self confidence which means that. You are very confident about the things that you do your career or specific skill that you have something that you are. Held in high esteem for in your community that you're good at actually doing yet despite all that you constantly find yourself seeking acceptance from others. Sometimes, they might not be others around you. You might be in a leadership position, but you do seek acceptance from other people. Maybe you seek acceptance from your coach you seek at in trump your therapist, you seek acceptance from your peers. Maybe in some mastermind appear group, you might even still be seeking acceptance from your parents even at a certain age. and. If yes if that's what you're doing, then I want you to know that in the long run this losing battle acceptance at the end of the day truly comes from within and when you struggle with an out of control sexual behavior, it is very helpful to keep this in mind and keep working on this. The goal is quite simple. The goal is to separate how you view yourself. From. How others view and to make that Separation Berry? Very clear. The problem is that many of us out view of ourselves and the way others of us it's constantly overlapping, and we are constantly taking the way others us and internalizing it sometimes when you make them to absolutely separate things that have nothing to do with each other, you'll reboot is going to become much easier and your self esteem is going to increase. So. How you view yourself sexually based on two things it's based on who you are and it is also based on your goals and your values now who you are, you can define that in whatever way you want to define it but at the end of the day, if you're struggling with a lot of shame because if you're porn sex masturbation addiction Then chances are you have low self worth in one area of your life or overall? My recommendation and it's truly up to you how you identify yourself. The mindset that I recommend that men who are rebooting have is believing that you award something no matter what you do. A what you have done and this is the best place to start. So regardless of what I currently do, which is you could be currently acting out with escorts. You could be currently be at a level six of your addiction and you could be just watching violence and almost illegal pornography or you could have acted outs, and so it's in ways that don't fit your value or certain ways that you just don't care to remember because they are so shameful to you. Regardless of all of those things, you still believe that you are worth something. And that is very important. So some guys go like well, what does that even mean jk because that that might be a concept that's a little bit difficult feed wrap your head around what it simply means this. You are valuable simply because you exist. Now. I know that they are individuals out there. There are people who influence others out there who try to motivate you by telling you that. You know what? As a man? You're not worth anything. If. You haven't accomplished something right they tell you that because they want to motivate you and the truth is in the eyes of others and in the eyes of society. You will be viewed as such if you haven't accomplished something or something that society considers to be worthwhile society in general will not hold you in high esteem. and. That's fine. Addis. Okay. The problem many of us internalize that instead of accepting and understanding where we start from you actually start. From believing that you're valuable simply because you occupy space in the world, you may have some resistance to that. You may feel that man to people who feel that way of people who are entitled I mean who are all these people who haven't done anything they are parasites on others and the not being productive and taking from others instead of giving, are you telling me that I have to take on that identity that I'm valuable just because I exist? No. See individuals who don't contribute anything to society. And Insist that they have valuable simply because they exist are doing one key thing. From what I'm recommending that you do. Those individuals are trying to make others believe that they are valuable. They're going out into the world and they are insisting that telling people hey, look at me I'm valuable. You must accept me and they are trying to discount all the things that they haven't accomplished in your case when you rebooting. When you start to rebuild your self worth and so it's an areas of your life. You acknowledge to yourself and yourself alone. You are valuable simply because you exist. We're well aware of all the things that you may not have accomplished and all the places where you have perceived shortcomings but that's fine. You don't need to convince anybody else your valuable. This is simply about convincing yourself and you know the the false belief that I wanNA challenge and I'm going to be doing a lot of challenging of false beliefs over the next couple of weeks as we dive a little bit deeper into the porn reboot systems concept of working. With your mind as opposed to against it, which is simply as you work more on challenging your unconscious beliefs but the false belief in this case is that I must be a productive respected or esteemed member of society. In order to be valuable. I must have a jaw. Must have a family and within that family if I if I have a family I must be providing for my kids or if I am of a certain age, I must have had certain accomplishments bad is the false belief and this false belief is reinforced even by those who may trust now if you're listening to this chances, are you're listening to it on a podcast and if you're listening to this podcast chances are you are irregular podcast listener? I must admit I actually don't listen to any podcast and bought subscribed. To anything which might be surprising but it might also explain a lot about my podcasting style I. Typically don't like to be influenced by just randomness out there. But that aside what I have noticed about when I interact with many of the podcast, my podcast listeners is that you listen to other podcasts and you probably also listened to things which podcasts which have A. Lot to do with self improvement and improving yourself and one of the feedback I have gotten. I. Haven't heard this myself because I don't listen to the podcast but the feedback I've gotten for many gentleman who listens to podcasts is that they listened to individuals who try to motivate them by reminding them that an important goal that they should accomplish is creating an identity. Off a person who is productive they say you know don't lie to yourself. Don't be s yourself and tell yourself that you productive while you're would your respect like actually put into hard work and get there and that's fine that's basically understand it. But when you're coming from a place where your self worth. And your self esteem is much lower than the average person because you harbor a lot more shame because if you out of control sexual behavior. That advice is not necessarily going to work. Because, you may already be respected and you ought Johnson already productive. But like wise and that working for me, I will card I keep trying to build this identity respected but. Why do I still feel like I am valuable, right. It comes. down. To stepping away from all this external validation. And prioritizing the belief. That nothing matters except my opinion of myself. And I've said this before actually framed quote in my office which I'm looking at directly my cameras actually blocking it but I'll read it out for you and it. It's wrong. Gosh, what's his name on belief I? Forgot his name but the the quotas right there and I'm GonNa do a quick Google search she as we speak to find it but a quotas. Do what man manhood bids do from none but self expect applause in noblest lives and noblest dies. Who makes and keeps his self made. Laws but the author of that is Richard Francis Burton and he was an English explorer who discovered I believe Victoria Falls and Central Africa and believe there's a movie about him out there. But this guy lived a crazy life. You know he was a soldier he was a polyglot he spoke multiple languages. He was a researcher he was an ambassador he was a scholar he wrote so many books he lived a truly extraordinary life. I'm also controversial figure. But one of his core beliefs was that you. Can only get validation from yourself. And nobody's validation of you. This important. It also comes down to making your own laws and life for yourself deciding to standards by which you will be judged by absolutely not by anybody else's standards and I found that every body in life who is extraordinary. Sets their own standards and his the crazy thing about setting your own standards your own standards don't necessarily have to be higher than others. See in different areas of life. We often look at outlets relationship life and when you go like, well, if I'm not in a long term committed relationship, then by standards of society, I'm not succeeding in relationships or if we look at how much we're making per year and say like, Oh if I'm a thirty two year old man and I'm not making after taxes one, hundred, thousand dollars a year than by society or pure group or whatever wherever you come from. By those standards I am not successful or if I must. So it's an age and I don't look certain way that I'm not a valuable person but judging yourself as valuable when you take on the belief that you are valuable, simply because you exist you free yourself to set your own standards and be very happy with them and not only happy you start to realize that your power, your self confidence your ability to accomplish things is not affected by other people. So let's take finances for example, because these days that's something that a lot of men judged themselves by and majority of my clients also do that. Let's say you feel that I need to be making mid to low to mid six figures after taxes to consider myself to be a valuable person Addison age well when you consider yourself to be valuable simply because you exist. The truth is whatever amount satisfies your basic needs and your basic wants becomes okay for you. I have clients who are happy making seventy, five, thousand dollars a year. And the. Debt content they're like this. Enough for me. I have a nice home. I have savings I have an. Fund, I can take one SU decent vacations a year. I'm really happy with this and anything beyond that. Honestly create so much stress in my life that I don't want to deal with it. So as long as I'm sitting at that seventy, five, thousand dollars a year number I'm actually happy and content. Now on the other hand, I have clients that anything less than two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year off the taxes. Is Failure for them. And they are no happier than the guy who's making seventy five thousand dollars. A year. And I've seen this happen so many times in so many instances with so many different amounts and I've come to the conclusion that. Really, the guys who are satisfied with the quote unquote lower amounts. A mall confidence a happier and in many cases in general a more successful than the men who. Demand, more from themselves if we would put them in a room and we often do usually in a virtual setting, you would not be able to tell in fact if I would ask you to guess who was, let's say the most successful person out there right the person who seemed to be the most confidence the most generalised terms of course, the happiest who seemed to make the most money I guarantee you that in most cases, it would be individual. whose value was based on the fact that he simply existed. And in most cases, he wouldn't be making the most amount of money there. Right. So I'm just using the the money part. As an example, we could have used anything, but I'm is just something that I see coming up a lot with men. So the bottom line gentlemen is that don't measure yourself according to what other people are doing and what they're doing into world. One of the great benefits of creating very strong boundaries with social media is that you separate yourself from this personally I feel like apart from the only function that something like facebook serves after a certain age if you're not running a business on facebook or using facebook to run your business or if it's not part of your career, it's literally to compare your life with others. It's not to keep up with others or to see like what are you know what's Jenny and her husband doing in de life now, like look the kids are grown, that's not the primary reason. The way facebook is set up and social media is set up is you end up comparing your life to theirs? You end up either feeling better than others and you're like Oh. Yeah. Look at that guy he was hot shit in high-school college but look at him now look at who is married to look at the job he has, and then you get this feeling of superiority. And you look at somebody else and you're like man like having all these exotic vacations, the enjoying live, and then you foam all these false beliefs about them, i. Oh, that their life is probably fake. They're probably living their lives on credits or Manda doing really good and you know like I'm I'm a little bit jealous because he seems to be doing something right and we're doing we're having all these judgments which the human it's human to do that. But at the end of the day, what we don't realize that we're constantly using that to compare ourselves and where we're at. You are unique. Your influences the things that influenced you throughout your life are unique absolutely unique, and the important thing is that wherever you are today. You did what you could. With what you were given and even if you hadn't or you haven't you still can. Right you still have whatever hand that life dealt you. Take it. And make something of it to be honest with everyone who's listening to this that's what I've done with my entire life. At a certain point when I heard a quote by Osho no-show spiritual teacher very controversial. But there was a quote way he shed that a man truly becomes a man. When he accepts full responsibility. For who he is. And I probably read that quote when I was about twenty twenty, one years old and it stuck with me if you ask me, Osho, that's the only I can remember it's that one quote and I decided that okay. I need to become a man I have to accept complete responsibility for who I am and that also meant that whatever life gave me. I was going to use that to make something of my life. Right and what life gave me at that point in time was. Wasn't good at math. Wasn't good at anything that. Requires an education but had interesting friends and had weird opportunities like the opportunity to go sell door to door and being sales every opportunity I got. I took it and I just maxed it out. I stopped comparing myself to other people to a certain extent and it wasn't easy because everybody was taking this traditional path and I was like, Oh, I can only Max out on this and that's what I did and in its own way. It led me. To where I am now. Which is content? And well, actually, I will actually take that back. I'm content but I also have a strong desire to grow. So if I looked around me I'm like yeah I'm happy with the things I have I have a strong desire to grow by serving others. And compared at the other places I could've ended up. This amazing. This is amazing. I. Think that's what most men want. They want the opportunity to grow. Their wants the opportunity to get things that they want in life and when we bring it back to rebooting. Getting to belief or developing to believe that you are valuable makes you realize that. You made for much more. Than pursuing sex. When we go down to the very, very basic level because it's pure. It's just about. I am valuable because I exist and the world. And your existing and the world. It gives you that freedom to choose. which way you're going to go, it allows you to let go of all the different things that defined you. Money Sex your physical appearance your ethnicity cultural background socioeconomic background, your freed of everything. You're just human being. Who exists when you hit that reset but You'll rebooting yourself in a sense you're pure. Your. Naked. And you can start defining. Redefining rather the things that make you you. So. I have a little exercise for you to to kind of make this a little bit more practical take a piece of paper whenever you get a chance preferably. Now you're not driving or doing anything active. And I want you to imagine your child again. Your Child of Seven, eight, nine years old. And you don't have any off the experiences that you have today now being very specific about this not a teenager but our child and it's okay if you go back that far and you still find it very fuzzy like I don't know what I was like as a child or experienced abuse or or trauma when I was a child, I don't typically go back there. But go back to the most innocent things you remember as a child playing outside playing with your your siblings. Going somewhere with your parents whatever the case may be ignored. Any negative thing if there is one and just go back to purity of. Say, purely the ignorance of being a child and from that mindsets. I want you to write out by reasons. Why you are valuable. Without any of the experiences that you have till date, the only experiences you have at experiences from when you were born up until the age of Seven, eight, nine years old. And then write down. Why you are valuable As. A person. And whenever you get the chance, shoot me an email J. EMS. At elevated recovery, Dot Org, and in the subject line I, want you to type valuable. We receive a lot of emails but when I got that. I'll know that it is a response from somebody who listened to the podcast who is sharing why they are valuable. I think is a very, very Powell flexing cise and a very simple way to kind of. Cleared a calculator so to speak and redefine why we have valuable. I'm Jay Yorba, Linda struggle thank you so much for taking the time to listen to this episode of the Porn. Regroup podcast I'll speak to you later on in the week.

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Deanne Shinzan Larsen  Dharma Combat

Yokoji Zen Dharma Talks

43:56 min | 2 months ago

Deanne Shinzan Larsen Dharma Combat

"Welcome to the yo. Koji then mountain center podcast every month. We share at least one new talk on the practice of zen buddhism at c. m. c. dot org slash podcast. You can also find us on itunes spotify and all other podcast apps if you find the talks to be valuable. Please consider supporting you'll koji by donating at emc dot org slash doni. We rely on your support to continue sharing this life-changing practice thank you. We hope you enjoy the talk. Good morning. I'm deanne john on larson the head trainee for this spring training period. Thank you so much for joining us this morning. Attention toes on was ill among asked osho. You are sick is there. Someone not sick chosen answered. Yes there is the monk asked osho does the one who is not set. Look after you toes on replied. This'll monk is able to look after others. The monk asked osho how about when you look after others toes on said than the having of sickness is not seen this is case ninety four toes zones illness from the book of equanimity. In this main case we learned that the venerated toes on is ill very ill among cubs to visit him in his somewhat impertinent as he notes this monk sickness he does not ask if he can help but decides instead to test toes on with questions about sickness and not sickness in caretaking the toes on his. Ill is willing to engage with this monks questioning toes on states quite strongly that there is someone who is not sick and that he is very able to look after others and that when he does. The having of sickness is not seeing questions. My experience with questions is that they usually produce more questions rather than answers and that is exactly the purpose of questions about the important matters. Questions are demanding that we give attention to something that we look into the matter deeply to clarify our understanding in this case in my own experience. Working with this choline. I'm asking who's the one not sick. How is it that the one who was ill is looking after others. we might think that should be reversed. How is it that sicknesses not seen and who doesn't see it myself others. Both when i chose this con- i surprised myself. Why focus for weeks on illness. Death in caretaking hadn't seen and experienced enough this pandemic year in the years just previous with the illness of family members. The deaths of my parents and several dear friends unexpected medical issues of my own decades of work before my retirement attending to human suffering. The answer was obvious. This is the reality of our human life of my life. Not the totality certainly but the focus of much time energy learning to navigate the daily demands attend to the needs of self and others manage emotional response so as to be a real help how to attend a nurture when the balance in life seems maladjusted. This is another question posed in the preface to this mean case. How does one attended. Nurture schalke muni. Buddha said out to clarify the issues of old age sickness and death and to relieve suffering after having been shielded by his family from the reality of the human condition. He vowed to reach understanding for as long as it might take to do so. We continue this practice. That has been passed down through generations of teaching. When i entered this spring training period. I signed a petition. Participation that included the statement icon here realizing that the problem of life and death is a vital matter. This cohen is one pathway to deepen my relationship to this vital matter. As i sit sauce and i have the opportunity to examine mayan of life and death of sickness and health to confront my- fears of sickness and death and look beyond categories that hinder my opportunity to appreciate each moment of my life as rises in practicing. We have the opportunity to set body and mind at rest beyond sickness and not sickness. Two years ago. I was thrust into this matter of sickness. Non sickness and the necessity of setting my mind at rest rather than spiraling into anxiety and creating suffering for myself as i began to tell myself stories that were arising from my fears after some brief symptoms in some medical tests. I received a call from my doctor a few days later. He told me a diagnosis that i dreaded hearing. I would need surgery soon. At a subsequent period of recuperation there were unknown factors to consider. That could not be known until after the surgery before the call. I was not sick moments later after the call i was sick. How could this be after my initial alarm. This question question actually helped see me through until i could have the needed surgery. I realized that i was feeling the same. Look the same doing things. I had always done at night. I went to bed and counted my breath when i felt inside the arising when a story arose from my fears i asked myself. How are you right. Now what do you know to be true now. I woke in the morning. I made breakfast walked in. The sunlight looked at the trees. Listen to the birds. As i always do was sick was i not sick. I was not certain of eventual outcome. The future doesn't exist in the present moment. The one not sick was a strong presence that enabled me to live well regardless if this new circumstance i was fortunate with the medical outcome of by sickness and i was fortunate to have this intimate experience at the one who is not sick this past year. We have all faced a great challenge at great opportunity us together. We experienced the reality of global pandemic sickness. Death suffering were present in our consciousness leaving little room. For avoidance and denial. Many kinds of sickness were exposed illness. Death stress and fear inciting and depression isolation and loneliness economic distress social and political division and strife light was also shown on sicknesses too often ignored or denied social injustice than oppression inequality and intolerance violence in its many forms this pandemic pain and suffering. It also served as an apocalypse which does not mean a task affi the actual meaning of the word is a great unveiling a revelation to look at issues of life and death. That demand attention to raise questions that had lain dormant for too long time. Such these. can anyone not sick be found toes on immediately said yes recognizing that one that is in each of us amidst this pandemic we have witnessed countless of compassion. People caring for others in all kinds of ways giving generously time money self to assist others. Family friends complete strangers even in the midst of their own illness. Hardship and suffering is. An hearts were opened for many to those too often ignored or devalued now deemed essential to our common wellbeing a status. They always were but finally recognized. Realization of our interdependence front and center the delusion of separateness was exposed. Can any of us be well while others are sick if we truly experienced no separation. How could that be possible recognizing using our true nature or buddha nature. Each of us has the capacity to respond attend and nurture using all the ingredients of our life no matter what are temporary. Circumstances are this is a marvelous thing. Recognize the one you have. That is not sec. Bracing the sick in yourself and in others. I have a beautiful memory of kevin raucous on riley one of our monks. Here you'll coachee. Who served as head trainee. While in the midst of a terminal illness he served with commitment. Warmth humor determination. He supported the songa in embodied his vows in the midst of illness. He was also focusing on the welfare of his family. Making sure they would be well after his passing. I remember the new year's session raucous on leading us new year's eve and singing off lens line at midnight in the dining room a large paper taped on the wall as he did the bouncing ball gesture to people's on track with the lyrics. He was laughing. Singing is right fish shining. The housing of sickness not seen embodied indeed. His example continues to be a teaching for being kevin rock assan and toes on knowing the emptiness of sick not sick and using all the ingredients of their life until the end in my life's work as a clinical social worker. I was given the opportunity to work. With people of all ages. In conditions people often defined on paper by their maladies chronic medical problems mental illness in mood disorders addiction of all kinds victims and perpetrators of abuse and violence. Though suffering the effects of injustice poverty discrimination looking beyond categories the billeness beyond labels. I saw people have resilience in the face of great suffering. I witnessed their determination. Fortitude patience as they endeavoured to live their lives as best they could amidst their present circumstances many were caring for others living lightfoot joy and humor often i learned a lot in my relationships with them in looking after others their own suffering was also diminished transformed so that the having a sickness was not seen and the one who is not sick shown through the other evening as i was reading i came across a beautiful question when you are not thinking about who you are. Who are you the preface to this case asks win. The four elements are maladjusted. How does one attend ender in my experience. I have learned that. We all respond to several approaches. That meet needs that we all have in common. Regardless of our particular circumstances first attention pay attention take heed going beyond selves. You your ability to really see here and sense the person right before you be fully present no matter how distressing or complicated. The problem may seem the in the moment without person and help help them on. The reality of this present moment embraced the sick while seeing and listening for the one who is not sick it may help them find that one to secondly compassion in being fully present with another. We feel with them. That is literally the meaning of the word com. Tashin not feel for that is not possible but feel wist we are all living this same blyth. We are all in this together in order to be fully present and compassionate in the face of our end suckering and that of course we must continue to deepen our own relationship to the realities of sickness and death. Many people have told me that they were helped. Most because the one caring for them was not afraid of suffering in being intimate with our own suffering. We can more truly be with another who was experiencing difficulty in sorrow. We are not called upon to do for when another but to be whist when another attend nurture. I have barely begun to scratch the surface of understanding this choline or the meaning of this life. I have been given for much of my life. Poetry has been my form of corn. Study in concluding. I want to share the words of poet that i hold dear stanley kunitz in reflections. He writes the most poignant aspect of human existence stems from the awareness that we are both living and dying at the same time to embrace such knowledge and yet remained compassionate and whole. That's the consummation of the endeavor of a human life. Thank you so much for your attention today. This is a three foot long black snake. A long time ago it was a calm pearl flower at vulture peak as shaolin. It became a plum blossom. Sometimes it transforms into a dragon. Swallows heaven and earth. Sometimes it transforms into a diamond sword with freedom to kill and give life right now in accord with the order of my teacher. It lies in my hands. I feel like a mosquito trying to bite an iron bowl. However being assigned had training i have to fulfil my duties. Now you dragons and elephants in this storm a hall. Confront me in dharma combat. We could do you go first. That's engine had changed since trade. Someone who was not attorney stare someone who is not trainee. I hear her saying. I'm always the trainee. I am a student of life. I will never get to the bottom of what this life is or who i am. I have to be my own head trainee. Answer your life. Go well okay. We'll now the questions to those joining via zoom. Please use the race hand feature and as you heard. There's a little bit of form to today's questions and answers. Please begin your question by saying attention head trainee. Then ask your question and then when you are finished please say thank you for your answer so please use the raise hand feature if you cannot find that you can unu- yourself now. You can mute yourself. And and i will see that as well and call on you. Please do not be shy. Please use the raise. Hand feature. Mark your morning ed trainee tension When feeling ill one value is there in exploring overstated. Vilnis exploring our state of illness. We have the opportunity to look at. Where whether we're telling ourselves stories about that illness rather than just being sec in taking care of ourselves whereas our mind going with this illness is it creating more suffering or is it helping us be at peace and sat both body and mind at rest so we can heal more quickly. Thank you it. Trini near life go. Well thank you. Mark and bill butler go ahead here on muted had trading out of we keep from being overwhelmed by the suffering of the world overwhelmed sits on zanu as often as possible. Notice that you are breathing as often as possible. Notice that the things that don't change in that continue on regardless of human suffering and are there for us to appreciate and enjoy even where when we're in the midst of sickness or inner turmoil. You for your answer your life go. Well matt attention head. Trade isn't true deceiving himself not being seen as being sick saying that he can attend others when he can get up and run a marathon on his own or anything you know. I think that was on. Even if he's lying in his sick bed and cannot get up anymore is still able to care for others. He lived centuries and centuries ago and he helped me and so to me and he could've told that monk you're being quite rude. Please leave my room but he didn't. He took that opportunity to teach some monks. Something and when that monk is ill and she's going to think of it differently than a might have if he hadn't met with toes on. Thank you for your answer. Your life a well. Amber attention had trainee. What happens when you use non accomplishment in exhaustively. Aw when you use not accomplishment. You can practice without regard for how much you're going to achieve how much you will be noticed. But kind of status you might receive in exhaustively. We really have no choice right. We have to keep breathing. Wok clean walking living twenty four seven. Keep doing what we are doing day by day. Living our life in exhaustively with no thought of what will be gained and we will gain the rank. That's what the life go l. a. bruce training. You me yes see the. I can't sorry. Newton nervous puppy had chain. You don't have to do this anymore. But thank you and Attention had chinese You mentioned the one who is not sick was the one who is the one sick. Sickness is just normal heart of the human condition. At times. We will be sick but there are so many kinds of sickness. I spoke about some of them today. And some of the worst sicknesses are believing that we are separate from others or believing. The thickness defines us. Could thank you for your answer your life. Well bruce jacob attention vitry where is the one who is cured. One who is cured. What is there to be cured from. We have this life. Sometimes things go well sometimes not so well sometimes sick sometimes. We're not sick. There's nothing to be cured. We are perfect shining just as we are. Thank you for your answer. Your life go well. Dan attention at trainee. Could you say something about when we take care of others. We don't see our own sickness. What is it about taking care of others that it gets us out of our own head. You speak to that a little bit. Yes you know without getting scientific about it. I think something chemically even happens in our bodies when we turn our attention to caring for another even when you pet your cat or dog that happens so it certainly happens when you're caring for children when you're hearing her dying parents in some of the most difficult moments during mother's death i felt the most serene and comforted by having the ability to be with her two stroke her skin to speak softly to her. And i think it we can extend out to all beings if we go deep and wide enough accessory among be your life go stand anybody else. Get a few more questions so really good gifts of the shoe so if you can test the standing please don't be shy. Shy quest yes. I am not over the hill. Yoga go ahead is listened. Towns Me what is health. What is health. I think health is being at peace with the reality of this moment. No matter what is happening health is having the ability to step outside of self in be available to help him. whatever capacity. you can with others. Thank you for your answer. Your life co. well q. rhonda alo- alo- attention hit trade deal with loneliness. How you deal from loneliness. I can only speak for myself. I think about the things that i value in life. And i try to raise those up even more than luck for someone else. Who is lonely in engage with them so that my own loneliness dissipates in hopefully there's does to thank you for your answer. May your life go. Well jill attention head training. How do you not lose yourself when you want to take care of others when you truly want to take care of others had not lose yourself in that process. They don't lose yourself. Use yourself the self can be used skillfully and the use of self also being very cognizant of taking care of your own needs when you need to sleep. You sleep when you need to eat. You eat when you need to exercise the exercise on the airplane. It's always helped me when they say if the oxygen gets depleted in the cabin parents. Please put your mask on i. If you can't leave you can't help someone else breathes. Thank you for your answer. Your life go. Well terry warp and or penny attention intriguing wise. The little one difficult to approach the little one has been so difficult for me to approach this training period in callin study. Because i'd like to ask you. That question. Terry chop my understanding at this moment. The little one is not difficult to approach. Because it is me. And i can't see myself i can't see my own is but i know they're they're the subjectivity. And the shifting difficult to approach but the little one is always here. So i have plenty of time to spend more time with her trainee. Can you feel your lu- yes i can. That is a really good question. I can feel her. She needs a lot of consultation in reassurance at times so she's always kind of tugging at me. Should we all do the tug at me. Absolutely thank you for your in your life go. L. all stingier unmuted go ahead. Hit trainee tucson was a great master. I guess lying there being sick. How was he helping others. He was helping others by not talking about his own illness but realizing this monk had some real questions and that perhaps she could teach even if he only had hours to live he still had moments to teach. I also read that the ancients enjoyed frolicking in the face of dash so perhaps this was one way that he was doing a little frolicking as he lay on his deathbed figure. Answer your life go. Well there any other questions. Tearing penny again in hint treaty. Would you explain further the exhausted tree talk in who that might be. Yes it follows the line of using non accomplishments in exhaustively she gains the rank executive treetop so without knowing it the person has grown installer and widened view where they can see all around them that height. But don't stay up there too long. You have to come down to the ground. New need do what needs to be done down there. In in the matter of trees even more importantly go underground where the real stuff's happening trees no had a nurse her when another look out for one another. Thank you for your answer. Your life go. Well tom thank you. Forty forgotten allahu address you so wonderful. Wonderful words ultimate question for you in arts in shelters. This being third is their this. Those in the best encounter is always. What's happening right now does moment thank you achieve your life. Go walk the other questions okay. Attention had tradie. You've been here since about april first nolan. Would you say it has been in wellness or in sickness sick. Not sick has nothing to do with it. I was challenged to use all the ingredients of my life. Sometimes i slept the batter over the rim of the bowl in. Sometimes i'd baked a beautiful cake. Thank you for your answer. Bay your life go. Well thank you for your aunt. Say your life go. Well being immature an insufficient in training. I wasn't expecting to be assigned as head trainee. I feel as if a crime has been committed which fills the heavens and there isn't a place on earth for me to hide. I hope there's enough water in the pacific for your for you to rinse out my words from your ears. Water flows and turns. Genesee will now have the congratulatory poems will begin in a moment with With thiessen. who's the most recent head trainee a if you have completed You term his head trainee in your offering pollen today. If you could please use again the race hand function To let me know. And i will. I will call on on people associated as i see. People writes a huns begin with keesa. Congratulations had training and was time spent sitting. Bowing chanting offering slim's sticks of incense. Stop rest sleep. Tend to the one who feeds the buddha and sweeps steps without a trace of illness or hesitation genda. Congratulations that training. When the white clouds aid you'll mountainous chilled. Don't catch a cold. Or maybe you have just cannot see it and can you sick or not sick. Wander strew a field of flowers looking. Ask your others taking care of this. Congratulations ed trinity. Saito said the evidence of sickness appeared by contrast healthy specimen fried. By illness asked questions save speculation in theory for table. Talk take a pulse touch afforded warm or cold air enough to try to know this about coughing and sputtering find a mechanic get a tune-up in saint her fokker. Some say still muted teal. That's good graduation. Trading winds trace their way back to the source the great i saw gigolo rotunda gaza smile tier asylum cup of qassem ending the heart. The garden pervious extends without limit. It will continue with congratulatory pollens with Those here at your koji jokin. speak up. Police congratulates attorney ordinary. Inari person those it imposes age assay understands it becomes an ordinary person. Congratulations had trained e cigarette. The owl hoots coyotes. How the clouds lift on these children peaks a lifetime of caretaking. Congratulations trade. it. Just mind useful. Manson together vast presence rumors of sickness and health. Madame osho live and very well at long and winding he me to your article will never disappear. All our human conditions sickness attention to this health health. All beings congratulations had training ancient medicine. For a timeless malady doctors and patients each all to fulfil larrell. The sickness of ten thousand years is assuaged in an instant regulations. Entry taking care of others not knowing who others tonight self miss cover mountains. The human sickness knowledge fundamentally shows no compassionate. Donna be extended to all beings on may ause and cevallos to accomplish. The boot away be realized together. Uh spe these and

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