9 Burst results for "Oscar Pierce"
The Autosport Podcast
"oscar pierce" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"And it's tricky of Orlando to get out of an existing contract. I would just put forward an alternative future theory. If you still don't want to world to isolate Ferrari with Charles Leclerc, be an option for Mercedes to go alongside Russell. But maybe just thinking of your question karoon, it's almost like this is a question for next year because I don't think we've just said I don't think McLaren account copy and paste that. As we've talked about earlier with that, I think I don't think McLaren are going to step forward. I think F one does really want to have a 2020 ten season. Do you think there might get with the big three from Mercedes are up there? But I don't see McLaren stepping forward. But there's no danger of him leaving any time soon because of the good work with the contracts. My decision would be wood Mercedes perhaps elsewhere, but also as Matt Q is written and he's very adamant about Audi, Audi coming in 2026. He's got to be a really attractive candidate for them Norris. Yeah, but that's still four seasons away. This is a long way. That's a long way away. What tracks do you go to that you see Lando mania busting out? Because he's hugely popular in some parts of the world, isn't he? This one? Everybody in merchandising? The British Grand Prix this year. Yeah, I was told he outsold Lewis this year. Obviously, number 46 fans, you know Rossi stickers on cars and you just sit out on the motorway and whatever. The only other one now is I've seen some Lando fours. Yeah, more than 44s. He's building. He's building to be a world champion. It would be a shame if he never did it. Same as leclerc as well. Absolutely. It's a wonderful, it's almost like a sort of analytically show, but a golden generation of driving talent when you think about Verstappen leclerc Russell and Norris, right? We've just built this whole scenario. What happens if Oscar pierce comes in and beat Lando this year? The same scenario I think applies to the ocon gasly thing. There's potential for career defining partnerships at the moment, a bit like Norris and Ricardo, right? Ricardo's reputation is never going to recover after PC is a McLaren. The pastry is in a win win, like George was last year, isn't he? Actually. But it's for me, that's an interesting one. Someone who hadn't followed PS3, I mean, really closely. It surprised me that he opted to take a year out. But that is the I'm not sure if he operated. He had a year out. He could have raced somewhere. Yeah, but he knew that he was like F one was the thing, right? So some people get into F one by going around the houses because they done 38 seasons in F two, or they've done formula E and they get their opportunity now. Whatever. And then there are some people that are destined to F one because they go this championship bang next bang. I'm not going to F one's door. We saw it with George Lando, Charles and Oscar was the next one. He was almost ashamed of their kind of together. But yeah, I think it will be interesting. If he has to use the most exciting, we're getting ahead of our questions. I know. We're going to be the most exciting rookie that we've got on the grid this year. Okay, let's also talk about an issue that we touched on, which is Fernando Alonso seems to have discovered the elixir of eternal youth because I was watching some videos of him turning up, shaking hands, doing hugs. And he looks great shape. You wouldn't bet against philando Alonso. Your question is, is the Alonzo Aston Martin partnership, a match made in heaven or hell? Why do you want to answer them? It really will depend on how competitive it is. People often ask me, one of the most frequently asked questions, actually, is who's your favorite driver? And I don't actually have an answer because from the cut and grade I don't like to pick a favorite. But I always say any of them. But I always say to people, if I had to choose one that I enjoyed watching the most, it's Fernando Alonso. And I enjoy listening to his team radio. We are the benefit of listening to all of the radio on an open channel. In the commentary box, and it's interlagos last year. There's a three stop race that he was doing. Really complicated strategy. But he's in the car in the middle of the race and he's telling the engineer gasly is going to do this and sources going to do this. And he's going to do this. So make sure we do he's worked out what everyone else's strategy is. And how he needs to combat that. From the cockpit. He's one of the most intelligent drivers ever to have raced in Formula One. And he is still motivated. He just wants to be successful. If the car is competitive and if the team is on an upward trajectory, I think that relationship will go fine. If he sees that it's stagnant or it's not fulfilling his expectations, then I think it could be slightly tricky. And he really busted open the summer break last year. It made it interesting for us to report on Formula One because that kicked off all the dominoes fell. He sees the moment, didn't he? He sort of, I think he looked at his opportunities and how things are going without being keyed realized, the reliability factor there, things like that. Can we make a good point about our penis going back a little bit if they can improve the reliability of their engine there? They're going to make a step forward points wise. But just going back to Fernando Alonso and the level that he's at. He's so good. He's really interesting just to give the listeners the readers a tiny bit of insight into how I mean you probably fairly obvious into how things work or auto sports dot com specifically on the website. We look at which drivers do well, which stories get the most numbers and what happens actually surprising thing about Fernando Alonso is he doesn't score astonishingly highly. He's pretty average. And I just find that so strange that people are almost not caring so much. Maybe it's just because maybe we're different generation of readers, things like that. I don't know. But he's so good, especially at his age. I think he is sort of there are weird elements like that crash with stroll and the clipping ocon in Brazil. That was sort of weird. Why did Fernando's driving there go a little bit off? But he's brilliant. And I'd rather I think I said this on the podcast before. If I had to make a choice now, so for example, we know Felipe yovich, obviously I asked him as a reserve driver now. Reigning F two champion.
The Autosport Podcast
"oscar pierce" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"And also we'll talk about the formula two champion. And what they do next. Stick around those stories are on the way. Okay, welcome back to the podcast now, Megan. Let's talk a little bit about the Monza madness. The chaos of that weekend, because as you've told us already, drugovich was crowned champion whilst he was out of the car, watching the race unfold his nearest competitor, couldn't get the points. He needed. But that was the same for F three that you told us about a couple of weekends ago, but that was because the F three race was stopped on the Sunday, bearing in mind F two was decided on Saturday. And they decided not to restart F three because they had an F two race to get to, but the F two race, there was nothing up for grabs in terms of the championship. I love the drama, but there was a lot of it. And it was just funny, you know, Felipe had basically tied up the title. If he had finished, if he'd finished, if Tao had finished, I think, 5th or above, then it would have been he could have been in contention still. But given that he started 14th, it was always unlikely. So it was kind of a given that the sprint race was going to decide the title. But then Felipe gets knocked out on the first lap and you sat there and everyone in the media center is like, what is happening? Felipe sat there in the pit lane, and he wins the title, and he said, you know, it was a bit odd, but it was quite nice. So he got to celebrate with his team from the pit lane, and then as you mentioned on the Sunday, the F three title was also decided in quite a odd way. The series CEO Bruno Michel did say that he would rather have seen the F two feature race on the Sunday. You know, sure and you've got F three first thing in the morning, normally it's some sort of awful time, like 8 30. And then F two is directly after that. And then there's Porsche Super Cup and then they have to get everything ready for F one. So there's not much time for maneuver in such a busy schedule. And I think that is why they just canned the end of the F three race. When really they could have done the barrier repairs, half the length of the F two race given that the title was already decided. Let the F three race be decided on track rather than from the pit lane like the F two one was. So it was a bit of an odd ending to an odd championship in both series. Well, then tell us then. What happens next when you win formula two? You've mentioned all of the incredible names that we know very well from Formula One and GP two before it as well. Some of the legends of Formula One have come up that way, not to say other series aren't great, but this is for most the route into Formula One. And then what happens next according to the rules, once that Felipe drugovich has won formula two, I mean he wouldn't want to go back to it for a fourth year, but he can't, right? Bruno Michelle said that he thinks that it's it needs to be an up and out model because he wouldn't want them to become professional championships, because if you do that, you're going to have people staying in the same championship, having a big advantage winning it repeatedly. And that would be bad for the young drivers. And that's something that he feels is really important to the series. But Felipe said, in his opinion, either your champion and you can not stay anymore and you have to be promoted to F one or you can stay. And that he thinks what needs to change is whoever wins the championship needs to get a go in F one. And it's not often been the case that the champion hasn't got an F one seat, but if you look at if you look back in the past 2019, Nick devries one F two didn't get enough one seat. Oscar piastre. The whole Oscar piastre thing is a different kettle of fish, but Oscar pierce street, one F two last year and did not get immediately promoted to F one. He spent a year as our penis test and reserve driver, and now we'll be going to F one with McLaren. A lot of differing opinions over what should happen to the F two champion, given that they're not allowed to return, you know, do they move somewhere else if there's not enough one seat? Do they try formula E do they try IndyCar? But really most of these guys are in F two and they want to get to F one. So a lot of them had to spend a year not racing essentially, which as strokes said in his champions press conference is not ideal for a driver, having to spend a year not racing. But Felipe is going to be Aston Martin's test and reserve driver for 2023. He is also the first member of their new kind of driver development program. He'll be doing lots of testing, lots of sim work. He's doing his first Formula One FP one session at Abu Dhabi. So you'll have lots to keep him occupied. What a great story of the year and I'm sure he will be repeated again next year Fast & Furious action. Megan, thank you so much for joining us on the auto sport
Box of Neutrals
"oscar pierce" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"And the other thing that really annoys me about this is that the sport just has no sense of irony because if it had any sense of irony, it would have been Aston Martin that blew the budget by like 10 million bucks despite finishing 9 in the standings. It would have been much funnier as the story. And yet here we are with an actual serious potentially serious implications in this story. Very irritating, very annoying. But this will go forever. You may never end. We might all die before this finishes, so just, you know, just take it one day at a time. That's all we have to drive market because that was the other big thing that happened this week wasn't it. Pierre gasly is going to help. We will form a French super team with Esteban ocon, they hate each other. That's going to be good fun. They've tagged a lot of awkward photos together over the course of the last week. It's incredible. Which means the next is going to alpha tauri despite that he with no disrespect to him being neither young, nor Red Bull driver. I say he's not young. He's 27. He's about to be 28 years old. He's still pretty young, but, you know, he's not Yuki tsunoda young, is he. And it does also mean a bit of a kick to the teeth of all of the Red Bull juniors who are having a crack out there in the bad wide world of formula two. And all my Nick de vries wins is a form of a championship, which is pretty good, I guess. And he's straight in and he's got these Formula One debut. Yeah. I'll tell you what, we all thought Oscar pierce through had a lot of hype around it when McLaren absolutely fell over itself to try to sign him. AlphaTauri of Nick de vries on the basis of quite frankly, one Grand Prix performance. Which is either a strong endorsement or a lot of pressure. Let's retrospectively, let's find out what happens this time next year. Talking about Cal stefanovic show. So it's going to be, it's going to be interesting. Okay, we'll be interesting. Because you'll be up against Yuki tsunoda as well, is the established driver there now, I guess, but he's coming in as a more experienced driver. But on the other hand, I mean, he did have that good debut in Monza, but it does also sort of struck me today I don't know if this means disrespectful to either driver, but it does have shades of Brendon Hartley around it, doesn't it? Like he rocked up as a LeMond winner and wick champion, I think. He certainly is in any case. And then just didn't really cut it against gasly. Now I need to raise a little bit more embedded in Formula One through Mercedes a little bit he's done all those practice drives and has now done an actual Grand Prix, but it was one Grand Prix. You know, it doesn't always translate does it like formula E title, formula two title couple of years ago now. There is a lot of high random. You're right, there's a lot of hype. We've got a lot of drivers next to your rocking up with a lot of hype to do well. And that could be ugly. Now very much. And yeah, it is shocking that you do have in this sort of reshuffle of this is a Mercedes junior. That's his malt is why it's quite telling that the best candidate for one of the most prized Red Bull sites on the grid has been given to a Mercedes prodigy. It's quite staggering, but this is the new normal. We all are having to get used to. Well, our Red Bull prodigy has gone to Williams in Alex Albon and another one's gone to Alpine and then the last one who was went to Alpine they went to McLaren and having sacked and the other ones are Aston Martin, so it's sort of like the young driver programs are all a bit cool. Now, I think that's why Alpine's talking about getting rid of it. 'cause it's not good. I never end up where they've been to go, so it's all a bit confusing. But these of course means, I mean, they're always meant to cement this weeks ago, but he's confirmed that he's used his own human mouth to say the horrible words that are Daniel Ricciardo won't be racing next year, not in Formula One. He says not in anything, in fact, he's gone out of his way. He's got out of his for people commenting on Facebook, listen carefully. He's got it out of his way to say he's not going to be a bathroom. Please stop saying he's not going to be there. You might watch it, but he's not going to be racing in it. It's the said no. He said no. But he won't be racing Formula One a that turns out in 2023 because it doesn't want to, well, I'll say it's available. We just want either of them. We just want to go to hassle Williams teams. And he says he's aiming now for 2024, but I mean, it is a risk. This is an enormous risk, and as you said earlier, this is sabbatical asterisk at the end of this year. Yeah, big time. So yeah, even the whole, I'm not sure what you heard in Suzuka Michael, but it's just we're all relying, but best case, the best case scenario when we heard everything kind of occur. We thought that he's going to say it McLaren. Okay, Nara, Matt will clearly has no other choice but to go to Alpine. Okay? Maybe maybe he locks America, so maybe Haas will actually do him some good. So now we're resigned to the fact we'll be quite happy if he ends up a reserve driver at Mercedes. But I don't even know if that's ever going to be. A possibility for him. By then. It's weird because have you asked me like two weeks ago, I would say that's ridiculous. It's a wacky rumor that's been started, I don't know, in some way. Same people he says he's gonna go to bath test, I guess, probably saying that. But he said it in Singapore, even same Mercedes obviously. But he said that being a reserve driver is a realistic option for him. He's really for a driver who has over the last month since he's been sacked and even beforehand when it was clear he was brought by must be included in him that he was probably going to be sacked. Who's gone out of his way to not say the wrong thing to not mislead at least he has left it vague from time to time as everyone falling on does, but he's never done my Sergio. Why don't your parents do what he's going to make? You admitted these outright lies to questions. You never done that. As far as we know, that.
Box of Neutrals
"oscar pierce" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"He doesn't have the same high per se Oscar pierce who does in terms of so a year or two or three Williams isn't the worst thing in the world for him. So I don't think he's going to be sing out on much. So at least he's in the system and then you know he can grow and develop and he could be like the Daniel Ricciardo sort of effect where he was good in the junior formulae but F one. It was the category that clicked for him really at least when he was a Red Bull drive. So it could be, yeah, it could be the right place for our time for old Jack, so that would be someone who really, you know, in terms of it's always nice to have two Aussies on the grid. Would be nice to have three. Let's not get gravy, though, because yeah, that could be, that could be 2024. Well, let's just start with two for now. I mean, we're at the moment, we really only got one. It's one in one out. It's like a clock. Like a really awful club. So we don't know what's going to happen. But it would be interesting for Jack because Williams is still keen on Logan sergeant. If you can't race next year, they want him to race the following year, assuming he has a good F two season, maybe even wins the thing. Yeah. So then that would maybe mean Jack's there on a one year deal. The question mark then is over who Alpine actually gets, it's a weakened situation. I don't know if you sort of feel the same way, but on the one hand it feels like they actually isn't that much talent out there to feel safe. You got a couple of two guys. Yeah. You've got your other random character like Nick to raise a sort of inserted himself here and that's pretty good. But then like we're still talking about Nico hulkenberg, who don't get me wrong, had a great career, but had a great career. It's happened. It's finished, but we're still talking about drivers like that. Even Antonio giovinazzi, who I liked and think he actually deserved a bit of a longer opportunity, but you know, it's not like he was making such a great case that he absolutely should be back on the Formula One grid either. So on the one hand, you sort of got a weak field, but on the other hand, if you did have someone like Jack do and rock up at Williams, there's every chance you might only get one year and then not find another seat because there are enough like average drivers making a good enough case for themselves that there aren't enough seats. True, but then if Jack uses that opportunity to go, well, this is how good I'm bloody am. You'd be mad not to keep me or to or to poach me. So he's got to be in the system. It's just like, it's like an IFL coach. I think James heard there's more. I think he's even on the Alpine wish list of potential candidates to fill that state. And if you're talking about there's not enough depth in the junior formula, which I disagree with. I'm actually very surprised that lame Lawson is not in the mix. For AlphaTauri, graduation, for example. So that surprises me a little bit. But yeah, I think there's enough talent on the grid to be filled by your F two types. And look, I'm not going to discredit IndyCar, right? I think that you could easily get all other drivers of higher stock on board. Yeah, I just found a bizarre is more eligible for super license points that Colton heard but he's not even in anyone's right up. And I think he's progression into IndyCar has been far more impressive, but nevertheless, yeah. It's an interesting, interesting time. It is interesting, isn't it? And it does make you wonder the Nick devries thing. Now he's another driver we should talk about here because he's on everyone's list all of a sudden he's on Williams lists. He's on Alpine's list. He's now apparently the favorite to go to alpha tauri replaced Pierre gasly. But he's kind of broken the business model a little bit because he's not come immediately up through F two. Obviously he's an F two champion a couple of years ago, but he's gone by formula E and he's a driver that realistically was written off. Before this year there was no chance he's getting to Formula One he had a shot at Williams and at Alfa Romeo for this season and Williams went for Alex Albon and Alfa Romeo and for Joe grand you in both of them worked out obviously. So that's no knock on that decision making. But all of a sudden is injected himself into the conversation for good reason because he had a great race in Italy. A great race on debut sudden race on debut. But it does make you wonder, every time we hear someone say, oh, like the F two greeted schnitzel very impressive, it's very weak greed, all these kinds of things. How seriously can we take it? Because as you sort of said earlier, sometimes drivers do click in formula and you can't take a punt on a driver happening to get all of a sudden much better and if one. But it does make you wonder whether actually we're bypassing too many drivers because sort of the vibe of the greed in F two. He's not so good. Reading, yeah, reading too many articles. I don't say we don't respect you, but in your posture, but I don't. Yeah, just yeah, you can't be riding off drivers in the press. And yeah, it's very strange that people get sucked into this vortex of if they've got good headlines around them, therefore they're going to be stand at driver because it's not always been the case. Not always been the case, but yeah, I think many seasons before it was written off too many drivers. Drivers of hung around for too long as well. So there's talent if you look hard enough and just ignore the hype and look at the raw facts and the raw data. This is why maybe this is why I'm anti anti hero because I just don't, if I look at the data, if I don't believe the headlines, if I don't say Lee diffie screaming about how good Colton herder is and every IndyCar driver just having Carlton's back. Very admirable. But if I'm looking at the data, I don't see it. I just don't bloody say it and I'm not going to get sucked in for it either. I'm not going for the popular route. Now is the time for the king to take his rightful place thrown in the Hall of Fame. Sit on his king of Thrones. I'm KB. That's my time. Books of neutrals. This break is brought to you by liquor land. And we've got a special promo code for loyal listeners of box of neutrals when you
Box of Neutrals
"oscar pierce" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"She's competent. Okay, it was third in the. If I want to have a European comparison, it was third in the MSA formula championship in 2015. Of which Lando Norris was involved. He won that season. Yeah, Lando, Orlando was the winner of that season Ricky Kohler was second and he's not a super license holder. 6 in that season. I don't understand. I don't understand. Neither does, who was it? Yeah, it was Alexander Rossi put out. I think quite frankly the position that I kind of agreed with was don't blame the super license point structure. Just blame everyone else who skyrocketed with the bag of money and got into Formula One because this is the whole reason why we have it. And I don't Colton hurt her. It's fourth it is in his first race this season, 12th, 23rd, tenth, a win, 30th, 8th, 5th, 15th, second, 24th, 12th, 24th, 5th, 11th, 6th, and 11th. One of the supplementary hey how is that? And you're telling me the super license point system is mountain. Seriously. Jeez. It's the debate that won't go away because I think people are still adamant they're gonna get called and although actually that's it. I do wonder. Now I think I called it a perfectly serviceable racing driver and I think there's reason to think that the points may in the future be rewritten, but there's no doubt he doesn't qualify and the rules need to be abided by because otherwise what's the point of having them? And I know all rules are arbitrary, but also we're talking about sport, like sport is a 100% arbitrary. It only exists because we make up rules for it. So we've got to make at least follow them. Look, I've never seen a bunch of self congratulating back slapping. Sort of, oh, yeah. I get it. Oh, he's a God. He's a gun. Yeah, okay, so he finished tenth. I don't buy it. I don't buy it. I don't understand. Well, we may not need to worry about it. Any longer, maybe possibly. Depends. Maybe he'll come back up into Formula One, but I think that once Formula One gets its first, well, not its first American obviously it had many Americans, had world champion Americans, once its first American of this generation. I think the heat will come off this herder situation because even Red Bull, despite them having a barrow to push really wanting to convince the FIA and everyone else that he deserved a super license. Most of which I don't think it was a convincing argument. 'cause he's not getting one. Oh, you're not gonna get him. Oh, that's a shy, okay. Yes. Okay. If I supervise his point floor, you know, I didn't get it. But I didn't get it. So the thing, but even all the arguments were mostly about how good it would be to have an American driver, not necessarily about why the point system was broken or whatever. It was mostly just about how commercially beneficial it'll be. But by that token, I think by the time we get an American driver, they're not arguing won't necessarily translate anymore because it will already have one. And it seems like old might Logan sergeant might be getting close to getting that promotion. Now he's the American who is going through the F one approved route. The super license approved brood. That said though, he's a Williams reserve driver, by the way, and Williams boss Jos capito said that he's ready for F one, except he needs the super license. Oh, they are going to end. Yes, he'll only know if you'll have one at the last round of formula two because he is currently going to get one. He's, I think, fourth in the standings, but if you finish his 5th or 6th lower, something like that, which you could do, then he won't get one. And Jack doolin is one of the drivers who might demote him by the way. But the problem is that the last round of formula two is Abu Dhabi, the last round of the Formula One season, which is also months away, which means that no one can make that decision, presumably. Unless I want to take an absolute oh no, you'd sign options. Surely, so if you wanted to go, let's say Logan sergeant. Someone's an option. And it's only activated once he obviously qualifies for a super license. And Jack Dylan would do the same or anyone else would quite frankly. So that's how I think you would get around that situation. You would hedge your bets on an educated guess that one of the drivers will be qualified. Then that's something that I don't think is on unreasonable. I don't. I don't understand the hyperbole of I actually call me controversial, but I like the fact that we actually, so you're telling me that it's between, let's say, for example, is between Logan Sarge and Jack Dillon, for example. Logan sergeant has a mountain to climb to ensure that he has to finish 5th or above to secure a super license. That is a great story. That it makes it interesting. I don't want to, I don't want someone coming on the grid because a whole bunch of IndyCar people got a bit strappy about their super lice and allocation. And because he's got an American flag. For me, having Logan sergeant get in there because he's just, he's just everything that he's needed to do to get super license points. If he doesn't get it, then it's bad luck. And if he does get it, then he'll be absolutely elated because it's, yeah, it makes it. It makes someone signing a piece of paper far more interesting than what it should be, is what it is. Oh, yes. Imagine a Netflix recreation. When they have to have someone signing a piece of paper, they might be tensioned in that episode. I mean, goodness knows the championship's got no attention. No, necessarily not. So literally, it's the only thing that people just love to get in rides the better something. And for me, the whole super license thing is blowing air proportion because it's a structure of the system that's there. It's like people who complain about speed cameras. They're not great. Yep, it sucks when you get one in the mail. But let's face it. You got to do something. So just don't spade because the answer gets super awesome sports. Very simple. It's a good message. Good misses for everyone involved, I think. So that will be an interesting one to watch eventually. That's the annoying thing here, actually, is that we can't actually watch it for another two months or something like that. And it'll only be one weekend in which you can watch it. But it also means that Jack doohan is in the frame here. And I think Jack dunes pretty much certainty of the super license as I understand it. I think if I've done the maths correctly, I think that is the case anyway. And he's still in the frame for Alpine where they've talked about having upwards of 20 drivers on their short list which is incredible considering how few people actually want to sign. Okay, McLaren. They've all already got McLaren contact. Unfortunately, one of them could be their junior driver Jack doohan, or alternatively, Jack tuan, if they can't put old mate American Logan Sargent in Williams, could do the job that Oscar piastre was meant to do and go to Williams for a year and then go maybe to Alpine or inevitably to McLaren. Yeah. And yeah, just what's his name from Alpine. Rossi will just be like, well, this is the good old fashioned way. And he'll be so smart about it. He will talk about it so much. About, yeah, check doing it the right way. I don't think there is a right or wrong way about it, but yeah, it would be an initiation for him and probably a good thing because let's be honest. He doesn't have the same high per se Oscar pierce who does in terms of so a year or two or three Williams isn't the worst thing in the world
Box of Neutrals
"oscar pierce" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"This week's show without talking about the big news of the week, which is of course old way Daniel Ricciardo, old most like Weber and ultimatum Oscar Piazza Moscow PS3. It's a Russian version of him. Moscow piastre, delicious Moscow piastre my favorite drink. Oscar piastre. The Russian version of Oscar pierce would be Oscar. Potash. Potash. Yes, the Ural khali sponsored version of Oscar piastre, like a parallel universe. They've made good. They've all apologized to one another. Well, I have it all pod microwave has done the apologizing. Even though Daniel Ricciardo said it wasn't necessary, they're all good friends. He's called Oscar wish him all the best. Oscar's presumably said something similar, but obviously he has not reported what he said. Yeah, he went to Daniel Ricciardo and smiled at him and said, thank you. And that's all that happened. But it's because this is now becoming resolved, is that we have the meeting of the contract recognition board last week, and they made their announcement on Friday, the Oscar piaster is going to McLaren because it turns out Alpine forgot to give him a contract, which seems like a fairly substantial oversight reform with one team. That's just my opinion. And as a result, he will be a McLaren driver next year. At the end of all these rob, now it's been a lot of speculation over the last month about what's going on. What I'll make mark has been doing with these young charges Oscar piastre, and now pain and betrayal and integrity and loyalty. But in the end, it turns out that, well, the contract recognition board lawyers, whatever their names were, they all had great names as well. Go look up. Hope it's in phase as well. Oh boy. I tell you what for the right of their charging. If I see a reimbursement climb of cargo is 90 for a focaccia and a cup of coffee, I'll just say you know what, you can write that one off so you can have that good choice. The climate expenses when you're charging those rights. But then again, the best in the business apparently. And so that's what they came up with. And in classic I always enjoy legal case, even if it's a civil criminal or kangaroo court kind of case where it doesn't really matter. Of saying a verdict that is given that starts with, well, there was no pain had no case to begin with, but nonetheless, we heard it and then we determined that I had no case. And so they wasted everyone's time. And they probably knew this and probably legal adviser was suggested this and they are still wrong. So stamp up. It is incredible. It's like half a million pounds or Euros. Which is no, no, not half a million. Yeah, half a million. A million bucks. It's a big investment on Oscar piastre. This is cost McLaren so much money as to what's going to unfold. Obviously, there's the severance package for Daniel. And they obviously probably something to Alpine as well, or but it's obviously gone in their favor. And it's probably the only wash up that's left is really where Daniel's going to end up. That's kind of the unfinished part of this tale, and we still don't know yet, where he's going to end up, but the whole straight swap for Ricciardo back at Alpine doesn't seem to be sticking. Which is quite remarkable to tell you the truth, but anyway, yeah, so I think if we examine all the players involved, el pain and maybe otma look inept. Quite frankly, to be very very harsh with you. Mark Webber seems complicit in the whole scheme, but nonetheless he was doing the right thing by Oscar to find him a safe for next year because obviously Alpine were very vague about things and so they said, well, I can get stuff. Let's say who will actually take us. And so therefore, McLaren, McLaren and Zac Brown, and then dry sodal in terms of stock down in terms of the good block pub test. And your side also says he was very transparent about the whole thing, Daniel Ricciardo apparently knew, but then the whole sort of thing of addressing the staff and lending Daniel say that I'm thinking I'm not leaving. Is questionable. It's like you wouldn't do this by stealth. Surely but then again on my staff now I just went to Oscar piastre while I was in the middle of a simulator. All the race driver next year. Well done. Here's a pat on the head. So yeah, probably out of all this. Alpine look ridiculous, but McLaren seemed like ship blokes. Is the crux of it really? And Oscars is just a porn in the middle and Danny Ricardo is the biggest out of all of it, really. So it's an interesting title and one that I think, yeah, it's very juicy and salacious, but very sad to see what's happening to Ricardo and hopefully it's not the end of the road for him on that front. What he said isn't it? Because you've wrapped it up very nicely there in any little package. Alpine sort of look like incompetent and McLaren. Well, it turns out they weren't as dick dastardly as we all thought they were a week ago. Wow, they still potentially didn't tell Ricardo a lot of this stuff, although we also argue Ricardo could have deduced some of it. But to be fair, when they'd signed up, Oscar on 4th of July and Ricardo put out that message and also there's a good word that they probably had some kind of pre agreement even earlier than that. Maybe in June, because there's just so much in action on Alpine's part that, yeah, as you say, mark where we just needed to get him a driver. It's his job to make sure Oscar is employed and he was doing his best to make sure that was the case. So it turns out, actually, he's coming out of this looking much better than I think you probably would have or could have rather. But as you say, the question is now just all about Daniel Ricciardo. Now I'm over here, Robin. I've been looking, I've been looking at Daniel for the last two weeks, obviously, 'cause it's what you do when you come here. And he just looks sad. I don't know. I've been asked. I've been asked this by a couple of different people. And I'm actually struggling to even think of other hyperbolic words to use instead of sad, but he's just looks sad. He looks sad. He's putting on a brave face at a sort of, it's sort of like enough to get through, but you can still see the behind this brave face, it's sadness. I don't know if you saw that clip where he said he didn't know the 4th of July thing.
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"oscar pierce" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"You're right. You know why it is. What Bill? It's really it's dog eat dog world out there. One Australian app for another, especially when Daniel Ricciardo is under contract. That's pretty big. Yes, I would say though. With respect to this rumor, I don't believe it. For a couple of reasons. Yes. One. Well, yes. One is Daniel out of contract. May of course, Jack brown has talked about all McLaren or Daniel kahneman, I break the contract. True, it's possible. But second, Alpine, I can't imagine McLaren taking a loan driver, right? First of all, they can not imagine loan driver going back. McLaren is above that. Well, they would believe so anyway. Two, I would not believe Alpine leading Oscar piastre officers. Moving it off. No way. And then even if any of those things weren't true, why would Alpine give its biggest rival in the constructor standings? He's like the hot shit. Putting him as a reserve driver at McLaren. Exactly, exactly. Which is already weed to begin with. Yes. So I can not imagine this rumor being true. I can't like if it happens. And I know Formula One does often defy all logic, but it would defy all logic. What would be easier, sending Oscar PS3 to your main rival McLaren or farming or breaking your contract with either Fernando Alonso or Esteban ocon. How do you feel about a sense of how? Good things about them. Good things I couldn't start a great card. Perfectly over there. The pine eyes are great. Yeah. Ferrari engine goes well. Better than this piece of shit. Let's be honest. It's pretty far fetched, but I've certainly heard worse, but I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility. I could say it happening. Okay, absolutely say that conversation occurring. But. Yeah. Exactly. But you're exactly right. Why would Alpine who let's face it? Don't have much else going for him. Yeah, Fernando is great. It's the band's good. I've had a Grand Prix win. Last year. But Oscar Pietro is your future. So you need to somehow make that work. By happens by chance that Fernando Alonso is probably being selfish. He's not he's having his best ever season. Oh, exactly. He's deprived of 80 points. He needs to race for another ten seasons to make up for that deficit for 40s owed. So it's a tricky spot for Al-Qaeda and it's what I don't envy them in. But I tell you what, in terms of a driver, it drives a stock. Has never been so high for someone who has driven who hasn't raced in anger since last year. Someone who has been rumored to go to McLaren is a reserve driver at one, is not competed in a practice session yet, who the team keeps delaying the practice prize when they have to do it. You could say. He's not racing in anything. It's quite a remarkable, which is a great thing. It goes to show you how hard the Oscars obviously write it and how much anything would be like, you're giving away Oscar pierce you for free, of course. We take it. It somehow would be very on brand real pain to have wasted all this time and money on Oscar pierce. So I wanted to keep track on, but I kind of imagined, regardless of whether you think Daniel Cobb is going to be here or not next year. I just can't imagine Oscar being the one who goes there. But on the other hand, who would go to McLaren, that's the other big question. I know we talked about this a couple of weeks ago, but appear gasly's recommitted to AlphaTauri for next year was already under contract, but he sort of said he will be there. So it's difficult to imagine who would end up there. I've got one for you. Here we go. Here we go. Rob sir drama season. He's raring
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"oscar pierce" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"Of the story. So there was no Oscar pierce involvement. What happened since though, which I think is the Steiner way of going about business, which I respect. Yeah, hard hacking. Look, he's a great man. Beautiful man. It also could be asked to be those scenes or more accurately L pain has offered him to McLaren as a reserve driver. Which given that there's no engine partnership anymore. That's quite generous of them. Now I guess in some respect it really reflects the fact that teams don't have reserve drivers anymore. Or a lot of them don't. A lot of them sort of share them. Yeah, well, if you were messed up, you have your pool of stoffel van Doorn of which went easy to never get a look in. Which they'll call Nico hulkenberg first. Yes, we've learned from the last few years. And that's the thing, so McLaren have amassed a bunch of drivers. They know they're not going to call, stoffel vendor. All the restaurant. Yes. Nick devries, maybe they will, but probably not. They've also got America award. It's hard to say that, isn't it? Instead of Pato war, you want to say pet award, but colt ton hurt her? Yes. Not Colin herder? No, I called ton. He's in the frame. That'll be a fun name in the east to come in the future. And then, of course, Oscar piastre, what I think is interesting about this because McLaren didn't really say anything about it, only that it's sort of been offered and he's in the pool. Is that it seems like Alpine has sort of offered him because maybe they felt a bit bad that he didn't even get a looking at Haas. And they obviously want to keep him sweet, right? Because and look, we're going to talk about this over the course of these. So we don't have to go too much detail today, but he's future at Alpine does rely on Fernando Alonso retiring. Which I'm not going to unless the car is an absolute must this year. I'm not convinced he'll do it. Now Ricardo is at 2023 end of. He has to go to a different team. I'm not saying he's going to go to McLaren. I just mean they need to keep him satisfied that they're thinking about it. Could you hear my roster dramas brewing as I was? I saw the twinkle in the eyes. On the fly here. No, that doesn't work out. So there was a false to dramas. Yeah, it could have been an audition for potential McLaren. But yeah, piastre is the kind of driver where I am struggling to recall a driver who's credibility credibility the junior categories has given him such a reputation where he can actually almost be picky where he goes. There's literally a safe vacant at heart and they've gone, thanks, but no thanks. We might just sit that one out and just wait our turn on the Alpine train. So there's still obviously they want to be in a good car. Of which, good drivers in shit cars is not uncommon. So Daniel, you have to remember he was in a car. He had Hispania Holden racing team. And he impressed on his tenure there. Like, yeah, he was at the asan to the groot, but it's almost like that little twinkle in sort of like, oh, you know, he's able to do it like you're George Russell at Williams, for example. Vander Alonso at minardi back in the day. So there was always that potential that could be the case because it also blow up in his face where he has to have a shit taste at him be forgotten about and then Jack Dillon's in the state. It's very dangerous these gambles. So potentially if he, you know, he does one race at McLaren, let's say the hypothetical land of Ricardo COVID get well soon. And he just does one race with McLaren doesn't okay, right? Or if he has a shit race, oh, it doesn't matter. It was his first Grand Prix. He's never driven the car before. So it's a good gamble. That one. And he has the ultimate advantage of just being there all the time. So, you know, Chandler, maybe it would be him. Finally, before we move on to other things, Andretti is I don't think we know he's happened since the end of last year. Hasn't it the Andretti Formula One bid? Michael Andretti wants to be in Formula One. He tried to buy Salva last year, didn't happen. They got angry about things. And now he wants to start a whole new team. So potentially an 11th Formula One team. He says he's written to the FIA and they've sort of tried I've read it as sort of politely said we're not interested, but he's insisting. Yeah. Which is fine because I think it's exciting to be informative. And he said more recently because of course you have to make China a million bucks just to get into Formula One, never mind how much it costs to make your team. They need to have to build it from scratch. He says team principals were originally a little bit cold on the idea and they were, some of them spoke publicly on it earlier in the year like last year, but he reckons they're starting to come around to the idea that actually an American famous American racing brand competing in Formula One while it's having its American moment might be a good thing. It is absolutely a good thing and I've said this time and time again we need another team or two on the grid. I'm happy that the alpha thing didn't happen only because I think alpha is in okay shape. I'd like to think, oh, you don't really know the backroom shenanigans there. But alpha is can stand up on its own two legs. That's fine. I don't want and ready to buy Haas because it's kind of shuffling Americans in your pocket. How good would it be to have two? America times. Great. So especially with, I mean, Haas is a big time. Sort of the NASCAR sort of sphere, but the tools industry. Industrious kind of person, whereas Andretti, that is racing, D and a, that is literally ending Formula One history as well, obviously with Michael Andretti senior. So yeah, obviously the alpay and connection they've confirmed they're going to run a Renault power plant as well. So obviously. So given they're not the biggest player in the political sphere, they're sort of not quite Toto Wolff sort of. Impact in the Formula One world. But Alpine right now I should say they're a customer that they're involved. So they need to sort of push their wider and a bit more and say, hi, we need another team on the grid. We need another tank to supply engines for. We're happy to do it. So come on, make it happen, everybody. Yes, I think it's a great thing. And I hope it does come off. It's hard to know they said because they want to be obviously not next year with the year after. So you're going to need to find out soon, but hopefully people can get around it without having to resort to what Formula One loves to do with these moments. Suing people, finding people or banning people. All being disgraced out and then having a holding company hold on and then move it back. You're listening to Greeks on the roof. Let's take a break from talking about Formula One the Bahrain Grand Prix preview because legal land has been there for Formula One.
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"oscar pierce" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"Ah. Let's start off with sack. Oh back. Kevin Magnussen, he's back. He's not telling anyone anything about his sack, which is good, not yet? No, no, well, Nico hulkenberg's not here. So he doesn't really have anyone to fight with. This is like this is like a wholesome Magnussen that was saying. We used to sort of the bad boy, big grumpy sort of magnitude of old, but in this rejuvenated spirit. It's just like we're Nico hulkenberg. First came back, he's sort of COVID induced returns by various drivers, being pulling on well. He was in a cafe somewhere in Germany and what Obama, and then all my stuff now said, oh, do you want to come back and do a rice this weekend? You've got 240 kilometers an hour, dangerous thing on the road. That's it. I think back this one was on some kind of fjord. Cultural appropriation anyway. He was on the Thomas the tank engine and he. Got off it when I got to come back to do what I what I know and love and sort of accepted the deal and then had to give my favorite one of my favorite sayings in life is if you give this never permission because you obviously had a deal with Persia to race at Le Mans, I think in the world endurance championship, you had some other commitments going on and you had to get out of all of those deals because he thought he was genuinely finished with Formula One the chapter was closed. The exhibit was closed. He was never going to really come back. He wasn't going to have, he wasn't really on anyone's radar as a reserve driver or even sort of a super sub, like you holcomb works. He just moved on with his life. And lo and behold, it's, I love moments like that where something you just don't expect it anymore, but all of a sudden he's got a multiyear deal. This is not just like for a few races. Fittipaldi walks in. This is going to be he's right for the next couple of years. So of course, you'd tell Persia to say hey, I'll drop off the two double O 8 at the front desk. I'll give it a vacuum at four, 'cause I feel bad. Very kind of it. But he's chosen to go back into a Haas, which for them. Not the not the worst pick for them. No, no, not at all. The other driver was with Chip Ganassi, I think. Can you imagine telling someone like cheap Ganassi? Do you want to break the contract? Well, the other driver was with, he's on the sanctions list. That one. But to emphasize how interesting it is he came back. Only one month earlier, not even a month earlier, maybe we're about a month earlier, he told Chris Midland at racer magazine. There's no way I'll ever come to JF one if I can't win races. You're not in a winning car. I will never come back. I think the quote was, I'm not coming back with the midfield team, which people have pointed out. It's technically technically correct. But I assumed when he said that, he ran midfield a lot. Presumably. Maybe he really likes being at the very back of the grid. I'm having flashbacks to the whole, not all cars. One of those any midfield cars. Yes, not all. Sure does not mean yes. Same contracts lawyer that they got to write that one. So yeah, but it is great. Like you touched on it as well. There's something very homely about his return because everyone everywhere except for on the sanctions list seems very happy about this outcome. And a long time listening to the box of neutrals will perhaps know that you're a hypocrite rob James because he keeps saying how much you want to generational clade out of your icons and thinking well actually we had money with that. Yet another reprieve you can't knock him down. Yes. Can't say no. But no, we've got Magnussen. And yeah, there's plenty of formula two drivers say on the market. There was that early sort of rumor that Oscar piastre should have been in the FrontRunner talk about even when we were later. And yeah, there's plenty of F two drivers, but you have to say, given the situation that has to read, where they still have a rookie driver and make shoe back. Yeah, he's done the season under his belt. I'm gonna pull it half a season of lost. He was like. At half a driver to sort of laid off. And yeah, they need a grounded kind of driver that knows the team knows FY knows how to, you know, obviously the change in regulations. It's a bit of a race for everybody, but a steady hand at the till. I think is the best interest for us given what they are going through. So it's a win win. And I think he left on good terms. It's a great lesson for never burning your bridges. Yeah. Absolutely. These are really great less than that because he understood when he got sacked that they wanted to keep him, but couldn't afford it. He needed the rubles. Yes. And everyone's very happy to see him back. Multi agreement as you said, which is really good because, I think, you know, they've obviously canceled their contract with the sponsor. We can't mention we could, but we just don't want to. But it's a but the money is being put back in, they're going to, you know, presumably find other sponsorship, but Jean Haas crucially seems committed again, because they were used there. The last couple of years where it really seems like they got the shit. You just want to be around. You crack the shit. You crack this shit. But the fact that he signed Magnussen up, presumably paying him. Multiyear agreement, they know that they got to deal with the sponsorship now. The other driver, let's not forget his Mick Schumacher, F two champion, and also a Schumacher. Like regardless of how guilty ultimately is, that's a great name to have in your car. It feels like we might be approaching another great period of time, not necessarily this year, but maybe next year, in the harsh timeline. And it chase everyone out, like, surely the mechanics would also be thrilled to have sort of familiar face with them, obviously, one that I think they get along with. So it's just a rejuvenation for everybody involved because it's like, well, hang on a sec. This time, if because it's someone said, it was almost quite shrewd in terms of if you think about how they went about it. They took the let's face the money route last year with the funds. And obviously it was the end of that generation of car. So why bother spending money on that one when we could just spend all of the money onto next season because in fact they're in what was going to happen. And I thought, well, let's just spend the money try to build as best of a car as we can with the money that we have. Now you've removed the driver that was bringing the money. Yes. They bringing in someone who you're paying to play, I presuming, and who's a great driver in his own right. Now you have a car that may, in the right hands, maybe half decent for them. So and again, this is a team that we've seen before and he's gone by, where they've turned up to the first race in the sport points. Straight away. So it's familiar territory for them. So they could do something like that. And the regs are so weird that it might end up being best of the midfield. Don't knock that. I'll say any ridiculous next week, maybe. We genuinely do not know where everyone sits a Mercedes telling the truth. Probably, but probably not as well. Yeah, yes, it's going to be interesting. We'll talk about pre season testing in a minute. Let us talk about our Oscar PS3 there. You mentioned he was extremely briefly in the frame. And by in the frame, I mean someone suggested he could go there because he doesn't have a drive and they didn't have a driver. It's about as the extent of it because even good the Steiner said the only cold one person was Kevin Magnussen directly. Yes. And then Kevin said, yes, and that was the end of the story. So there was no Oscar pierce involvement. What happened since though, which I think is the Steiner way of going about business, which I respect. Yeah, hard hacking. Look, he's a great man. Beautiful man..