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Importance of Integrity in a Leader

Veteran On the Move

16:01 min | 6 months ago

Importance of Integrity in a Leader

"Welcome to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition and entrepreneur wannabe poor someone still stuck at the GOP trying to escape this. Podcast is dedicated to your success. And now your host job bring have you checked out. American forces travel yet. American forces travel is an exclusive website powered by priceline bill for veterans and active duty. Check them out at veteran the move dot com slash travel talking with retirement core general. Tom Drowsy call sign sage. So sage next topic would like to cover is the importance of integrity in a leader. Yeah I I guess This really hit me again going back to my days as a as a Midshipman one more instructors was a marine and always a Korean War veteran might have been World War Two veteran as well but in any event as one of those times when when the instructor can kind of get off subject to talk about what we were there for which was to go out as a second lieutenants are insincere and lead sailors marines and his words were still with me and he said some of those who choose to come in the Marine Corps may find yourself in a situation where you're giving orders that will cause the men that you're leading to die and it isn't asking too much of you that they perceive you to be a man of integrity and just hit me and I thought you know that's yeah they make and then later in combat. I thought John I'm on orders from from other people. Do I consider them to be men of integrity and is just? It can't be a thing of well. I don't think your personal tech you're not going to carry out your order but it certainly makes it eat that easier to say. I'm willing to put my life on the line because I believe that. This leader is a person of integrity and so that always stayed with me so in a talk given on leadership about Would lead should be. I say that they should be leaders of morality as well as integrity and the question comes up. What was the difference between Morality and integrity? And then I asked the question. What do you think get different answers? And I said well let me share with you. A book called Rushworth kidder. Called how good people make tough decisions and his position is that morality is a choice between right and wrong. Good and bad Con Easy to distinguish sometimes difficult to carry out. The you know the right thing but it's you know black white you know find you know. There's a line between the two. The challenges that ethics is a choice between right and right and all you get puzzled. Looks right and right. How can you have a choice between right? And he said well think about this Kidder said that It's life. We have a kind of a constant ethical dilemma in four different areas and those areas are justice versus mercy honesty versus loyalty short-term benefit versus long-term benefit the good of the individual versus the good of the group on each one of those were comparing or having to choose between not right and wrong but right and right and that's what makes it so difficult. It's the ethical dilemma. Because whatever right that you choose the back of your mind is the fact that you rejected another right. So did you choose the the correct writer and I assure fans on you know honesty versus loyalty. You know how many of us have ever been in that situation class classmate loyalty you know you. Don't rat on a friend and all those things but but ours were supposed to also be pupil. Honesty of honor Justice versus mercy. How many of your parents nominee have run up against that of of ensuring that your child goes up to be a person of integrity But understands that there's got to be justice but to do so without breaking the spirit or will that child says got to be the mercy part of that as well and then the long term versus short term. You know we understand that. And then of course the good of the vendor vigil versus the good of the Group. All of these are rights. They all begin our start with the you know the good of the benefit of So that's that's the challenge. How do you get that? You know that's not. Don't you through training? That's done through education. That's done through the way we were raised. You know what's Okay and what's not. Okay it's reinforced by the culture. In which relocated Marine Corps culture has motto Semper Fidelis. Semper always not when I get around to it or one is when is okay or when you know. It's it's convenient it's always. It's the basis for any relationship of of permanence and then fidelity faithful honest loyal. All of those things that are necessary that We want I said the dollar is a term. We don't use much these days but during the past it was a fairly common term. In fact we used to name our dogs. Fido rid of fidelity fight on the that the loving caring that the companion that that faithful Loyal the being that we have with US final and then remind people that know cat has ever been named. Fido which is kind of apology to cat. Lovers cut up. But that's the the idea that you have these challenges and to be a person integrity means that you you make the right call and the desk developed through education through the things that we read the culture in which the people that we stronger sauce with. Are you surrounded by people that that you see also people of Integrity? That that you're comfortable with that you know are going to make the right call on it you. You would not feel ashamed to say. Gee I made this call because You know I just thought that was not not that big a deal. I mean all. These things are necessary in the development of leaders and But especially that role of integrity. Who wants to follow a person without integrity? You know what are the value of his or her decisions that are going to cause us to put our lives on the line and so the leader just has to have integrity and in my mind absolutely. It's a good stopping. We're GONNA take a quick break Quebec. If you've got business travel coming up vacation time or going on leave. Now's the time to make your reservations for Spring and summer travel with American forces. Travel serving you in helping your military family. American forces travel is an exclusive website and a deity partnership with priceline powered by priceline and built for veterans and active duty. American forces. Travel can save you money on flights. Cars and hotels support your branch of military at the same time. Active Duty Reserve veterans and more can use this restricted website. You'll save money on flights cars hotels and on top of that travel company commissions. Go to your service branch to be reinvested into your military community so checkout American forces travel at veteran the move dot com slash travel. And see for yourself. That's veteran on the move dot com slash. Travel bag with sage subject. Matter is imports of tasty in a leader. So I have to say I never realized that the dog named Fido was a derivative of fidelity. Until you said that but I guess it makes total sense with the unwavering loyalty of Docs Ohio and and the dog lovers out there. We'll all that I mean you know that. Faithful companion that wakes up in the morning and he just can't wait to to make you happy. Oh God what a what a wonderful being you know. Dogs are and how grateful that God made them in that that the dog chose to be on on our side of the hugh the split between animals and humans absolutely so what other Do you have some examples of tough decisions that you may you've made in your life in regards to write versus rate? I'll I'll share with you. An example of of one that Things kind of emergency. I was at headquarters. Marine Corps Got A call from General Krulak my dearest friend and he had this situation he said this is a heck of a story. The story goes back to World War. Two and there's an Irish lad from Chicago was in the army when off to to England in preparation for the the big invasion and fall in love with the IRS girl and The Gut Murray conceived a child he went off and fought came back. The marriage Fell apart so they got divorced and he came back to Chicago in one thousand nine hundred sixty six the mother because of the troubles that are taking place in an Ireland context. Father and says listen on this kind of dangerous spotter. Would you mind if we sent our son To live with you at Chicago and the father said sure no problem so the sun shows up kicks around for a while gets bored and decides to join the Marine Corps nineteen sixty six. If you joined the Marine Corps. There was one place that you could be fairly certain you're going to go. And that was Vietnam Right. So he's about to ship out and he says Gee I probably ought to call my mother and told her about this Hide and listen. I I got kind of bored. Here's Soy Joined the Marine Corps. She said you what I didn't send you the United States. You could join the Marine Corps and go into into dangerous situation. You get your little Irish but backyard. Harlan immediately and so he does he. He deserts background so and is now she would assist about nineteen ninety one or so maybe a ninety two and There's a wedding in Chicago. They're going to fight. All the relatives. Include this individual. Who's no ma'am issues up in immigration and a pops up deserter. So they take him away and change to the dude adjudicator whose General Krulak in Quantico. So they bring him in and and is he's bad shaven so generally calls me and says what do you think about this? Is that the Guzman Bad Chevy said a couple of heart attacks. He's not survive prisoners of but my lawyer just saying I got hammered the sky. You've got a standard example for for the rest of the ring card is I'm Kinda Kinda wondering you know. What what do you think about this and joy swear to God? That immediately in my mind was a palm not a poem but a Soliloquy that sister Marilyn my freshman year in high school made us memorize in was from the merchant of Venice and it was with Porsche's saying the quality of mercy is not strained it dropped with as a gentle rain from heaven upon the place beneath it is twice blessed to bless him. Give him receive it and so I just recited from memory is said to collect that. That's that's my said. Okay right all that down for me said to me so so now comes the day that In General Krulak was the communist system. Right no no. At this time he was so. Cg EVOLVE MC SIDDIQ. Down there so Voter education over I guess older deserters but So he has the guy come in here. It's got the guards performances. First of all take the shackles off. This and then he turns the Guy said this ends today. This will never admit got home. I was going to happen and he said. Let me read to you something then. My dearest friends sent me and he read the Soliloquy. The quality of mercy is not strained and so he finishes and he said it's over. I'm excusing you of everything you'll never face this again. But there's one requirement and the guy says. Oh God yeah whatever. I'll do whatever you want. General you said in the future you're going to have an opportunity to exercise either Justice or mercy and I can tell you to consider mercy in decision and I said well absolutely so you let him go off to goes to the wedding back to her. That Christmas general crew has done him and he said I gotTa show you this card and is trump this individual from back in Arlon. He said General. Thank you again for your kindness and so forth since our meeting. I have had a number of occasions to choose between justice and mercy. And thanks to you. I always chosen marquette down on the side of the mercy and have never regretted it. I hope that you have not regretted the fact that you showed mercy for me. So Joe you just never know when one of your teachers making you memorize them a portion of Shakespeare the May come in handy but in that case it came in handy for that individual as General Krulak Qetta choose between justice and mercy. Well that's incredible well. I don't think we could end in episode any better than that. Well to thank you. You know we have all of these opportunities in life to to do the right thing to reach back and say gee what what is what is right and proper here and hopefully that in reaching back. We're reaching back into a bag that has lots of integrity involved in it. The we we ended up making the the the right choice. Well that's awesome Russia. I appreciate you sharing those words of wisdom and phenomenal story with his. So that wraps up this episode and we'll be back Be Back with another one soon. So until then these two veterans or Oscar Mike vetted on the move your pathfinder to freedom if you like to show leave us a review. Kids reviews are always greatly appreciated so until next time. This veteran is Oscar Mike.

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Patriot Supreme CBD

Veteran On the Move

28:49 min | 7 months ago

Patriot Supreme CBD

"Efforts Veteran Justin Edinburgh has started sold several businesses as you get out of the Air Force now here to talk about his next venture. Patriots supreme coming up next of veteran the move. Welcome to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition and entrepreneur wannabe for someone still stuck at the GOP trying to escape this. Podcast is dedicated to your success. And now your host job bring this episode is brought to you by Navy Federal Navy. Federal has a mission to put your members. I by making their financial goals a priority. You can receive a lifetime membership benefits to help you and your family accomplish your life missions. It's open to active duty military the DOD veterans and their family members navy. Federal is proud to serve over eight million members including over one million veterans and their families visit navyfederal dot org slash veteran. Move for more information talk with Justin Edinburgh from Patriot supreme. Justin before we're talking about the business of the room when you hear about this because every CBD's everywhere it's a massive market out there. Lot of veterans. Get involved in it. Take us back. Tell us what you do in the air force well back in. Nineteen Ninety six. When I joined the Air Force they shipped me off of course to basic training. Lots of fun there and I was actually trained in avionics in F16. I said They gave you dream sheet. And he's Kinda put the dream sheet together. I said I WANNA go anywhere in the world but I do not want to stay in the in the states. I want them to pay me to travel. Of course those what we were thinking right and then You know I got Yano Italy and it was Was definitely amazing to Get so lucky to live in Italy for two years. We're GONNA have sixteens. Of course in in your first year at anybody in the military remembers probably being the grunt right and they put everything on you so a lot of stress in the beginning Doing that then I You know I realized that I needed to kind of do something as far as getting an education and kind of get so I went back to the United States I got. I got stationed at Hill Air Force Base. Utah was a fun station. But that was Kinda my transition back into you know into the Civilian Life. Plus it was my third actually my fourth year in the military and so it things got a little easier. They give you a little bit easier of job. You know you had the other grunts that You could give all the hard work too and so it gave me time to sort of do a little bit of soul searching in what I found was I wanted to go to A university and I heard Arizona State. University was Great Party School so it was kind of like she. Get your priorities straight. Yes I know right well. At least I went in the military did something and then saw. I heard. It was a good party school plus I had been Arizona. One time actually grew up in California so I drove through Arizona and I had a friend there and I thought that was really fun. I love the warm weather allowed the water and if it really truly is a good party school it should make you know a few years so that was kind of my. The Beginnings of my transition actually got out early from military on there like Go to school program. I think I got out like two or three months early. They let me go so that I could get enrolled and get Into the right semesters and so that was That was the beginning of my transition. And then of course when I got out I was like wow. I need money. So what am I GONNA do? I found out that I could work. There was a company called Orion international actually and they helped me get a job at Intel chip manufacturer. So I went from you know kind of being in the military normal rules and stuff to all of a sudden I was working and making forty to sixty thousand dollars a year depending on like you know what schedule. I worked in really good money but I started looking around. It was Kinda funny. I sitting at my desk looking around. I'm looking at these guys. I'm like twenty two or something at the time Mike. These guys are old. They're like in their forties. I'm forty two now. Zee consider myself an old guy. Remember when forty was old? Now right exactly you're like those guys are old up around looking around in my twenties and I'm looking around these guys I'm going I don't WanNa work here for this long and it was kind of boring like I wasn't being challenged and so I just decided that Enough was enough. I actually quit up sixty thousand dollars a year job. I was still actually in at. Asu still going to school at the time. By that time I think it was like a year later. I had actually gotten approved where when I got out. I got my disability. It took almost a year to file all that paperwork. If anybody's ever done that it's like that's attest right there to see if you can actually file for disability. I had no idea that the government could throw that paper at Yoyo as part of the test. See if you're really serious about it. Yeah so at that point. I got approved for Vocational Rehab. They paid for part of my schooling. They paid me to go to school. Plus I started Kind of like I at that time. We it's Kinda funny like once you start to realize these things are happening to you in that you want more. I had to figure out a way to live on very little. Go to school and start a business at the same time and the way that I looked at that was I had. I was driving a nice truck so that trip bought a piece of junk and was paid off of course had a house because I had a good income while I was in Intel about a House. I filled it with three roommates including myself so it was four people in a three bedroom. Two Bath House converted the garage into one of the rooms. And you know I basically rented out the House for the same amount that the mortgage was so now I was kind of living for free and so it was. It was a way to What I call it. Is You know people kinda dig themselves trench and they get all these bills and stuff racked up which you know as you get older that. Kinda happens but especially when you have kids but at the time. It was kind of as a little bit earlier so I went and just started business after business after business and over. The last twenty years have been an entrepreneur. Just either failing or doing really well. I've done both of them really well. Actually so that Kinda leads me to one. After another after another and I've invested invested invested. I actually had some successful companies that have sold and now I'm actually working on my fifth multi-million dollar business which is Patriot supreme it's a CBD Company and amount. They're kind of like just you know promoting it and I'm really trying to bring goodness to people and the reason I built it around a community that I'm part of the veteran community I think and so far the adoption rate of my product to some of the Friends of mine that You know I've a Army Ranger Buddy. That's a friend of mine in he has severe. Ptsd and he takes the product and each back to me. He's like Manas changed my life and that's a good feeling and you know you have a good product Wayne. You're able to do something like that and my own mom dates so CBD's big in the news. It's even a lot of states are now legalizing marijuana. Whether just medically and even more even don't have to does have to be medically talk a little bit about this. Cbd Industry in the market size in in. What's going on in the industry? Obviously the industry is growing. It's starting to make it to the news. It's turn to like become really popular. It's it's being touted as kind of miracle drug which I don't think I mean it definitely does some wonder it's like I you know it's great that way. There's all these experts and people reducing reproducing reports that are saying that this is the next you know to twenty twenty billion dollar industry and right now it is a pretty good industry like there's billions of dollars being had in it but as with any growing industry. There's also a lot of fraudulent people out there so there's a lot of really bad products in the CD market but there's also a lot of really good products as far as like educating yourselves or any entrepreneur educating themselves. Start with like asking questions and interviewing people. There's some really good websites out there like Lethal DOT COM and MJ DOT COM. That Where you can get like a ton of information about what to look for in a product and if you're talking about the entrepreneur side about starting a business you kinda just start to ask yourself and just educate yourself on what's good what's bad. How do I enter this market? Where's a good place centers market? And how do I really help people with this product and as you start to look at that that's where I think that Where it starts to really take off is the focus of helping people educating people and bringing them out on CD and what it does for people then creating a brand and a product around that yes so how are you able to tell the difference from a consumer perspective Goodwin Good Company in a bad company good product in a bad product. Research would be like the biggest one right. I mean like most of the guys that go just kind of like say here's CBD. And then they go buy something. They're not really kind of educating themselves. On first of all like why they're even wanting it but as you kind of do the research the more important pieces of looking at what a company is bringing to the table they have a cola certificate of authenticity as certificate of now. I keep getting wrong all the time. But it's a C- away tells you basically what's in the product if there's anything that's in the product that's not supposed to be there any company that you buy from should have this online if this is not online and they're not sharing that information with you run because that means that they're not really proud of or they don't know what's in the bottle and they're not certain of the origin so if it's not. Us made is another thing if it doesn't say US made on it. Ron 'cause the stuff coming from China is bad like bad to the point where people are getting sick. What like Steph Commitment? China's is like something besides cbd years ago metals or a weird stuff in it. Some of it is not CD at all like. There's not there's actually not see. Dna though this Kinda put. I don't really know what they're putting in it but if you go to lethally they did a really good Attest they took forty eight products and they tested all forty eight products to see what was in them and how it matched up to the label and one thing. I can say that I'm proud of his. We were actually labeled by an independent company. Like lethally one of the biggest companies as the most accurately labeled CD on the market. This awesome way. Hold on a second route to quick break. We'll be right back within a few months. When I first joined the Marine Corps I became navy federal member that was over twenty nine years ago and I still have the same account after twenty nine years navy. Federal has a mission to put members. I by making their financial goals that priority. You can receive a lifetime a membership benefits to help your family accomplish your life missions. A credit card. Apr Average that his four percent. 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Marijuana has teach DNA which is the psychoactive ingredient. That makes you feel high. Then it gives you that. Kind of like euphoric feeling right for some people. It's you've worked for me. I'm not really a fan of that feeling. Plus I end up eating too much junk food but CBD's kind of the extract. It's actually isn't an abbreviation as just a word they like shorten the word cannabis oil into CBD. It's the part of the plant that really has a ton of health benefits and what they're able to do is they're able to extract it through a couple of different processes and so create two different will that now. They have like three different types of CD out. They have a broad spectrum. A full spectrum in an isolate I wouldn't suggest using the isolate because they take out the basically take out everything but the CD. So you don't have any of the Like the plant matter everything that they take out everything except the specific. Cbd which kind of leaves out some of the goodness that The plant also to plant has broad spectrum takes out like ninety nine point nine nine percent of the teach so our product is actually tested down to a point zero zero five. Because that's how like it's kind of like measuring a piece of paper. You can't really measure it with a ruler. Ray. And so they measure it. They teach content down to. What is that one hundreds or one one thousandth of a measurement full spectrum can have up two point three percent teach? Cnn is there's some full spectrum products out there if you're looking if you're okay with having THC in the product it's not a bad thing is unless you don't have to pass a drug test because those ones there is enough the to where if you were to take a drug test you can fail it by taking a full spectrum product And so like what about people that they really can't? They're getting drug tested all the time. If you're still in the military whatever job you may have is a really any CBD oil. That's safe enough to take knowing that. Like what if the like the the the bottle you happen to get next month turned out to not have a little more in it than you know say previous mode and also you don't pass your urinalysis. It happens out there and it happens because there isn't consistency amount of testing if there is teach in new product a small amount of THC in the product. If you're taking a lot of it it builds up in your fat cells and then when you go to take the analysis test you can end up not passing it our product. I've actually have a Federal Railroad employee who takes their product and as he was in the beginning of taking our product. I asked him for favorites that I need. I would like you to go down and get drug tested over the next thirty days every week and he went to the labs and actually took a drug test on my behalf to show that when you have a point. Zero zero percent teach e you can pass a drug test and so with our product. Although I'm not saying that you should ever operate machinery take. Cd and operate machinery. I am saying that our people like our product. You can take it and still pass a drug test. That's interesting I know in the state of Kansas. Like varies by State. Like even state that were marijuana's not legal per se They still allow a very small amount of THC ENC BDO. I guess is the way it works but like in this in Kansas for example you so cbd oil and Kansas. It has to be zero point zero zero. There's there can't be any any residual at all in Kansas I. It can vary by state. What requirement is to again? Yeah and also you know if you're still active duty military the military still says do not take CBD and there's rules in these companies have rules. They don't care whether has point zero zero percent. Thc In the product. They just don't want you taking it so first of all. Listen to what your work says if they don't take it. Don't take it because you're not gonna you know if you do take it and then you you get you know they go do these a hair follicle sample or something like that and you they take that down to some level that whatever the level is that they take it to if you have a point zero zero zero one percent they can say up you you know you tested failed and so you. I would suggest not taking it unless you either ask your your bosses or you're okay and you don't. You don't have to take a urinalysis test if you do take the product. Our Product is a point zero zero. You can't pass a drug test but it doesn't mean that it's right if your work is saying don't take it exactly so let's talk about the Business Act's aspect of it like you know numbers money. Whatever you're willing to share where are you are you growing your own plants in extracting the CBD from them or getting this cd or from somewhere else. How's your operation run? I partner with a company out of Wyoming that Helps me source the product from several different farms some farms in Washington in some farms in Colorado? These are very strict process to create the same batch every time and they use multiple fields in order to create the consistent product when and it comes out of the distillery or like the distillation process. And so every time we get a new batch. We put a new. Coo a against that batch so that we can keep an show every single batch to anybody that wants to see it. It's on our website so as far as numbers it can be difficult to jump into this business because usually the minimum orders can be upwards of thirty to fifty thousand dollars in order to start buying product in bulk. Get it all prepared. Get labels bottling and everything for it. It there is a little bit of a berries chantrey. The probably the most challenging thing isn't just buying the inventory. That's actually the easy part because a lot of companies and a lot of like there's a lot of funding out there that you can get the buy that the hard part in the business is creating a market for your own product creating brand and bringing that brand out to the public and getting people to trust you that I think is one of the most challenging pieces in any in any business is not just a CBC business but it's especially right now on the CD business because of first of all you can't market it like you can't market it on facebook. He can't market it on Google. You can't even have a CB product on Amazon so to get and bring the product to the market. You still have to create this trust without using the typical marketing arms. That exist right now. And that's my specialty is is online marketing so it makes it a little bit difficult. Yes Oh even even if you're somebody selling 0.00. Cbd With Zero THC. You're all those restrictions with facebook Amazon exist if it's some kind of CD PRODUCT. You're not selling on their platform. You're out if you have the word. Cd anywhere on your product. You're out a lot of guys are selling. It is Hemp oil and so they can get under the radar with some of these things but you know as they get bigger and as they build on something that sort of built on Trickery I guess you know the facebook and Google and Amazon United. They stomped those guys out the second set. They realized they see that. You're getting big so I wouldn't want to build an entire brand around trickery but you guys are doing and worse. Amazon sellers so we never sold. Tvd BUT WE KNEW. Were very familiar with the whole trickery. Thing in it's just if you build a business on that is is to eventually. It's going to bite you so there's just no point in doing that so mostly it's a marketing business. Yes I mean. It's a marketing visit. The online portion of it is the marketing portion of the business the Some sixty two. I don't know sixty to seventy percent of the sales that happened in. Cbd Like You said. You went into a store. Most of the sales at you know a good sixty seventy of the sales that happen across the US right now happen in a store. They don't happen online. People go online to do research. But they're typically going to store to find out and ask somebody that's in a store you know. Their professional opinion would suggest what other people used. They WanNa touch feel and see the product and a lot of in the states where there's dispensaries and you know whether it's marijuana with you know for recreational use or it's like in California where I think it's I think it's recreational in California now but an Arizona the dispensaries you have to have a pot card to sell it and so they are. They are really a big component of selling the products. Also yeah that's interesting so you know from a from a vendor perspective. Somebody who's been through multiple businesses and and sold several businesses successfully entrepreneur. Wise like when you're talking to veterans that are out there looking to get into CBT CBD oil business. What kind of things come to mind? Well like I said earlier research. I started this I mean I probably started. I think it's been almost a year now. I think I started in January of last year doing research. I didn't even formed the company until June and so I was doing research for almost six months of. Who's who who's the Big Guy? How much should this cost what you know? What's the market saying? Is this stuff real? Which brand is real what you know speaking of that like what are the benefits of CB who are those things going to benefit the most? And like where's the market needed and whereas there room for a guy like me I don't have millions of dollars to spend on marketing and building a brand and getting this thing out there so you know it's okay. Where can I fit and get a good niche and really help people and you know? I think that was a win. Win For me is looking at the veteran community looking at what it does for people that have a lot of anxiety and understanding what some of the benefits are and I mean like I use the product myself and like I said my mom uses it. My friends use it. It's just to talk about some of the benefits it. It has benefits of sleep. Has Benefits of reducing anxiety has benefits of reducing inflammation which is pain and when you have PTSD or if you have P. T. A. C. Like finding through friends that have that that it's helping them with that and I think that's like a part of the anxiety kind of grouped into the anxiety but I think it's that little element that kind of takes the edge off. That helps now. I'm not saying I can't make claims so. Not Everybody's GonNa I gotTa make that disclaimer. Not Everybody's going to be this. It's not a magical cure but it's something to to be tried and that's what I'm doing is bringing it to the market from that perspective of you know. Try this we have a sixty day. Money back guarantee Empty bottle back. You know I'll give you your money back if I I'm not helping somebody. I don't want their money like that's not what we're in business to do right. And so we're trying to build that element. We have a youtube channel with a ton of testimonials on it that you know if you wanna find out what other people are using it for and how they're using it. That's a great place to find that research but as far as starting a business research is like the biggest thing that I did find that niche. You can't just sell anything to everybody. You've gotta find how you help people then when you get to help people then you can ask them for money so if somebody's interested in checking out. Patriot supreme products. How would they find you? Patriots Supreme Dot Com is the best place to start. Were pretty active on facebook. Were active on Youtube and follow us on instagram. We love to post cool photos and stuff anybody from the military usually likes gone so I like to get guns and go shooting and take pictures with the product and now really bring out the product to Just kind of have fun with it but also you know. Share it just in the last word if you talk to somebody. That's still in the military on their way out looking to get into entrepreneurship advice. You have for them. Find a mentor. Find Somebody who's done it. Start asking them questions. Find somebody that's actually like a giver and by Giver. I mean somebody who will at least talk to you and Kinda give you advice and may have been down the road that you want to go down if there's somebody out there that is successful in an industry that you WANNA be a part of attach yourself to them. You don't have to become their friend in a weird way but just ask them. Hey will you help me go down this road? Will you be a mentor to me? You know ask another guy. Who's been in the cannabis industry for twenty years? I said Hey man year obviously way more successful than me. Would you mind like providing the advice now and then when I have questions and I don't know the answer to because I don't have all the answers you probably don't either and so find that person that you can at least bounce ideas off of and we'll be honest to you and say? Hey now that sounds not such a good idea. Go back and revise that one lawsom where he great advice really appreciate it. Unfortunately at a time. So you've shared some good golden nuggets in words of wisdom and look forward to your future success in entrepreneurship in the CBD business of Good Luck to you and Look for futures exists in. Maybe a heavy back here in another year. So that sounds great. Thanks Joe thanks for having me on just take care. Get Day veterans or Decorah. Listening to veteran on the move. Your Pathfinder to freedom if you like to show leave us a review and I tunes. Reviews are always greatly appreciated so until next time. This veteran is Oscar Mike.

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Battle Bars with Ian Sparks

Veteran On the Move

32:18 min | 3 weeks ago

Battle Bars with Ian Sparks

"Army veteran sparks and his brother wanted to create a product catered to those who accept nothing less than victory whether it be on the battlefield in the gym or in their daily lives. This desired led them to create battle bars, handcrafted ingredients with an incredible taste texture and never any artificial sweeteners there protein bars will help you build muscle and maintain energy keeping you at optimal performance during even the biggest challenges coming up next of veteran on the move. Welcome to veteran on the move if you're a veteran in transition and entrepreneur wanna be for someone still stuck at that gop trying to escape this podcast is dedicated to your success. And now your host Joe Crane. To cash rewards credit card from Navy, federal credit. Union. You can earn one and a half percent cashback on every purchase and right now racers lows one point seven nine percents APR visit Navyfederal Dot Org for more information. All right Taber talking with Ian Sparks Co founder of battle bars in your in the army before you get into business and entrepreneurship and understand you're still in the army reserves. To tell us what you did in the army and your transition was like sure. So I commissioned in two thousand eleven as an engineer. I am now a captain again still in the reserves but I've been in the engineers tire career. That has taken me to Afghanistan Iraq and most recently Syria, I spent the majority of my deployment in two thousand seventeen in Syria will time in Iraq. But I kind of hopped all over the place I've had different roles. Most recent role was in command time spent a couple of years in command more than usual but I kind of got into that right now in the career where I am able to start, you know exploring other things and that's kind of what led me to start battle with Piper other. That's kind where met today. Let's cool. So talk a little bit about your transition you transition from active to the reserves, which is what exact same thing I did many years ago and then coming back on active after September, eleventh happened but so I can relate a little bit but as you talk about what your transition was like coming off active duty. So the as I would say, the transition in two thousand fourteen that my first deployment to Afghanistan that one. I. Found a lot easier. I don't know why but I. Think it was probably because I was still closer to my family and friends the second time around when I came back a little bit different I was in a different town different city. Different people So My Network of support was a lot They're all virtual at that point. So that was a little different at second transition was also. A little bit tougher because we had a the family tragedy, which the I've spoke you've probably seen a little bit from our company description but that made that traditional a lot difficult or more difficult. Rather I had to utilize the mentorship adventures rather than I had grabbed while I was overseas and really lean on the medley, and that's kind of how I got through that granted. There are a lot of resources military, one source for example that had just all kinds of groups organizations that I could reach out for personal help. honestly, the focus on this business is Kinda. Got Me To our today. It helped me get through that transition, which is very, very stressful. The second time around. Okay So. What was it sparked your interest in entrepreneurship or business? Have you always had an entrepreneurial mindset? Honestly. I wouldn't say that I. E people who know me what's up with say yes, they would unequivocally say, yes but I was the twenty year military guy to US military guy that's always what I wanted to do. As I got a little bit more older mature you know I started to look at What else can I do to actually contribute? Not Saying that you know obviously, we couldn't in the military but I just I started to get ideas distinct that maybe if I start looking outside that that wall, I can find a thing some brother, my brothers my co-founder he's always had that entrepreneurial I'm GonNa do this do this spirit so when we kind of join forces and put This idea together, it kind of evolved from that but again, me personally I don't know if people would say that right away of always been that twenty year guy but it really started to evolve in the past five years I would say and then again putting putting our brain power together really Kinda sold that in our brains that we have to do it we do now Now. I don't know who it was, but I saw somebody on the news last week I think it was they had had had been battle bars t-shirt on similar to yours. I saw I saw like battle bars like I'm interviewing somebody with has to do with battle Berge and went and looked it up. Wouldn't you? Though do you have your that was I'm just curious. Yes. So we right from the start when we founded the company, we made a a goal and we want to make sure we partner with veterans whether it be investment. Investment. Type discussions. Other veteran owned companies are actually adding people to our team. So about six months ago we wrote in Alex Witt, he had a ton of business experience over the past ten twelve years and he's also a navy vet We actually brought him into the team as our CEO says probably who use all talking about about. Okay, the thing is I don't think he was talking about battle bars because I just saw it on his shirt and I think that was a subject. Some males be yes. I think they were talking about the our hero, the month nomination we decided to do Kinda just Have you know focusing can submit a hero? They WANNA nominate to be featured on our hopefully packaging one day but for right now on our website and inserts in our in our boxes. So I think that's the discussion that you're referencing. Okay. Yeah. So we never did you where the idea for battle bars come up come from It's kind of it's kind of odd. So my brother call him he he had a about seventy eight years of experience in the industry, but it's the marketing but also pretty much everything you can imagine So we had some domain knowledge right there. we did have. The ability to lean on semes-, AMIS as well to kind of like. Okay. So how can we do this scientifically but the actual idea Honestly it came. We were in to be honest. We weren't hospice with are dead at time and you know as talking to my brother were talking to our family we're like you know like. Life life associate. What are we waiting for and we started? Thinking like what can we do to really say our dad was business guy who's? You know incredibly smart. He knew exactly need to do in certain situations and he was not the type to wait. It just was not in his personality So talking to Colin and talking from my experience, the the year and a half prior were again I was in Syria and we went there breathe tough deployment out the middle nowhere we survived on protein bars and in my opinion and experience a lot bill would agree they all taste really bad. They're all chalky chemically just not not good. And I I can't really tell you where the exact idea came from was I don't remember now but we were talking about making something that could fit in the sleeve pocket of the uniform or in that ankle pocket on the pants that was the idea is where it kinda started with like. Well, we could definitely do something like that. Can we not do with you know? Some military imagery, can we pick a military veteran charity to partner with right off the bat 'cause we really see anyone else doing that never mind the branding tastes alone. That was our whole thing was we need to be we need to be better tasting healthier than everyone else. So that was the easy target, but the military branding imagery that's obviously by my biggest contribution. Was your brother and military guy he's not no the actually the only military person in my family besides grandparents. Kind of the odd man out. But actually I do have a cousin who just enlisted last year and he's he's actually deployed right now. But enough. L. E. Certainly. Managed to cover the three biggest hot spots in recent times so Yeah. So. Talk a little bit about how had the idea got started in? What were your first steps What are your bigger circles and getting started? So the biggest obstacle is coming up with a name, will you probably spend three four weeks just trying to figure out a name that actually made sense? Battle bar sounds so simple but for some reason, it was not the McCain of our brains maybe that says a lot more about us of but. Once. We landed on that. The the difficult part at that point was okay. So now we go from here we did not have the capital to just to sit on you know we didn't have that capability we didn't have. family members, you could just dump a ton of money into this idea. So the next hardest part of this whole experience was to try to find funding responsibly. And if we could, can we incorporate other veterans people that we know can we do that So once we had our name situated we started. Pushing out samples to people that we thought. We did get some samples done up in the meantime to Kinda. See this perfect concert was going to work. In the early early results and looking back you know we've improved so much since then but looking back were blown away by that really helped start getting attention family and friends I, but very quickly outside of our friends and family in fact Alex our partner and CEO. Now he was one of our early customers. So we brought him on with that alone. So just. Again honestly we're just working capital was difficult part had we had a way with us not having any legal experience from starting in LLC like this had we had we get around that but you know one of the things I learned the military I know collar in his job experiences had a had a seek out SME's in kind of know when you're not the smartest person in the room. So you can get that help you need right and. Once did that once we line all that up is it really started coming together a I think we. The LLC in August of two, thousand eighteen and we launched that December. So we moved pretty quick once we once we got got our I mean we in hindsight it forever we we're pretty quick. We are definitely fortunate that we were able to do that that quickly yeah. Who will I will hey, we're gonNA take a quick break and then we'll shirt. I have several credit cards with navyfederal personal and business cards. Did you know with the cash rewards credit card from Navy? Federal Credit Union you can earn one and a half percent cashback. Every purchase rewards won't expire where your account is open and you can redeem them as soon as earned who doesn't love getting cash back plus the cash rewards card is contact. So you can make payments quickly securely with just tapping your card speaking rewards. You can get a navy federal auto loan reward yourself with a new car applying easy. You can do it on their mobile APP online or by phone. It's so fast. You decision seconds right now racers lows one point, seven, nine percents APR, plus you can estimate your monthly payments with their online auto loan calculator before you play. So whether it's your first car or your dream car navyfederal can help you crews into monthly payment you can afford. At navyfederal, the members are mission insured by NCUA open to armed, forces dod, veterans, and their families Credit Claro subject to approval rates subject to change and are based on credit worthiness rate available for new vehicles message and data rates may apply visit Navyfederal Dot Org for more information and to apply. Back, talking with army veteran Ian Sparks co-founder battle bars so in When you guys started battle bars, you guys went to raise money initially. Friends family and fools like is concerned. But you're able to get some decent funny and get started. But wh, where did the original recipe come from? How did you were? You guys actually making them in your kitchen go talk to some of the beginning details about. How the first bar come about. Sure. So again, we were very fortunate. We literally hit the ground running I. I we definitely lovers call experience in the industry he had been working with a twenty year Bariatric doctor for about twenty he's been. He's been in the industry for what twenty plus years now based out of Palm Beach Florida. So we kind of went to him as the SME and said Hey How how do we even start with something like this You know we're not directly competing with anything that he was doing it because it's different. It was a different branding a different audience entirely. So that wasn't really an issue but. That was what we wanted to do just very bluntly go to him and say how how do you even get started something like this Now, this individual again, twenty or Bariatric Dr was excited enough by our idea and our goals alone. He actually decided to become a partner in invest, which is incredible and part of his investment and part of his partnership was to help us develop this formula that one was unique that no one else was really doing to get that taste to combine with this uniqueness that no one else is really doing and then kind of go from there so with him. We had a base formula that he had experienced with. After that, it came down to what was I like me person Sam deploy what am I looking for when I'm in the field? Well, what what kind of energy producing nutrients do I need beyond that? What would someone who is gym rat want? What would someone who's working all day and just need something on the go like it's dry you know how do we combine all of this into a product? After I would say, maybe a month or two of trial and error just testing out these recipes we landed on it we developed the first flavor, which was a blueberry which we call the Blue Falcon, which I'm sure you is a veteran will appreciate. Capacity at the opportunity to have a have that name but of products. But that was our first one It had actual blueberries in it. It wasn't that thick check pace that you've seen a lot of protein bars was a protein way crisp base There is a proprietary marshmallow blend that were able to use, but we're really made it unique was that not only was it antioxidant views also is Collagen infuse. So collagen was helping to find it altogether but was awesome additional source of protein, which is way by the way I'm not sure if I mentioned that so. The last little bit that made this very unique. We started out using high fructose, Corn Syrup Almost, everything, he can possibly find right We replace that with Tapioca within I WANNA see the first two to three months of launching. So we removed that that big item right there which people can debate all day long that's fine but either way we took it out. We also removed all the artificial sugars, artificial sweeteners at all. It's all natural real sugar, which is a big deal. So the idea big picture something super clean something military brandon something completely unique. That's not on the market right now there's a lot of copycat type competitors out there. But if you break down, there is not the same, it's just it's just the reality. But we're getting beaten tastes, I will get a Migraine Home Alan so. But yeah that's kind of that's kind of how that Kinda it crawled. It was it was a slow crawl again the Yellow Sea was founded in August eighteen. But I want to say we started in. MAYBE, April May, and then that time between launch was in, which was in December that was trying to get our artwork nailed down but sh we were able to lean on A. Very talented graphic designer Stephanie who Kinda took our inspiration for the Blue Alkan and said hey let's make this. Let's make this a thing she came up with a great a great mascot non for us. But yeah that was kind of that that I that I not even full year was was rapid fire, but it took a lot of chips down to Florida. I'm in Pennsylvania I'm lucky to call him was down in Florida to be close to the bakery. But we started in our kitchen, we started with with that experience doctor in A. To Four Thousand Square. Foot bakery who who was kind enough to to believe in idea at our vision bar with us from the start. So we were, we were shooting of the of the waste from the start right there. Okay. So So. Here's a question for most of us know anything that we pay attention to what's good for us and what's not. Know. What's good for us in what you know in the companies that make these all the food All the power bars and Kind of bars they all know what's good for us to. It because blatantly obvious what should be in something which should not. So why is it do you suppose being in the industry now those companies put stuff in it that shouldn't be there it's cheaper. It's cheaper we you know word but two years into this business now, and we've looked at the numbers looked these. We've had these discussions to and you definitely pay you pay for Quality I mean everyone says it you get what you pay for. It's not always the case I mean there are there are competing brands to ours that cost more than ours and I don't know how I don't know how they can charges be perfectly. Blunt with you but that's that's the bottom line. It's a lot cheaper to put this other stuff in there. It just it just makes more sense really economically for your margins it really does. And that's that's. That's really the only reason that we haven't encountered any issues with supply even through the Kobe chaos. We haven't run any problems with that. We haven't had any issues related that the only thing the only thing that. The reality is that it's not cheap. Like. Like High Fructose Corn Syrup. Is. Way Cheaper Than Tapioca. Yes yes. Very much. So an college is not a cheap resource either There are some US provider, some of it comes from. Asia we we avoid all that but that's not that's not cheap source to to get either. But it's just surprising because with with what's going on in in in the food industry these days and you got a whole foods and org people are willing to pay three or four times as much. Just because it's got the word organic on it. Yeah it might be cheaper to to produce it the old way. But it seems obvious that. Maybe, it's not maybe it's not the case seems like the case that people are willing to pay more if it's truly better. Honesty I mean we we have if you look at our store, for example we have a three times the normal standard for return customers, which is which is incredible and I think I honestly think one is because I think it's because of who we are as a company that were we myself as one of the founders and my brother Colin analyst we answer customer seem ourselves. That's a good start right there I mean, we're very very upfront and like, Hey, we're here but honestly you taste the quality right away you can feel the quality can see the quality it. It's worth it and it drives those people coming back I think I, mean they see they see the chunks of blueberries, the chunks of strawberry they're not seeing that pace they're not seeing tasting the chalk and the chemicals. Why would they? Why would they go back in and buy something else? You know it's worth. It really is and it's better for. You in the long run and do your bars. You'll last as long as the other ones that are out there like if you're in the field or get stuff in your pocket for days on end. So you know that that's one of the upsides and downsides right? We don't put the preservatives in these bars that made them lasts for a year or two. They'll they'll never. They'll never probably be murray unless we unless we kind of tweak how we approach it because that's just not what the designed for They're good for over five hundred thirty days after the data production don't quote me on that bear perfectly fine up until that point but like any fresh products, the best time to eat is between the day after it's been produced, baked are produced and then say three months. That's like your. That's like the best type of you know most people when they are eating protein bars is within that time period. But they do I mean I I had a I can eat one a year later it's perfectly fine but alternate freshness that that really really good way Chris base in the marshmallows it's good at that sweet spot of three months. Deal is going to be one of my questions about. Going to be Marie but. I would love to I. Think I think it's doable. But as you know, any government contract that takes time. One of our one of our goals would be to try to get in the army or navy exchange. I think we'd be a good fit on an army or navy. Base. Because of our branding but sued because of A. You know who were supporting with our our veterans, charities and whatnot and how. How important is the brand has the brandon been obviously, you got the right ingredients and the rate taste in in the right mission behind it as for his health is concerned. How important is the brand in everything? What you guys you're doing? It's definitely, it's definitely intense branding. It's all military theme summit in a humorous way I. It's not You know the K bar has a little k-bar Princeton on the cover with gold goal wrapping around eight stands out and it's not it's not the type. You picture like a just one one on the shelf but the branding is were revolving maturing as well but it definitely stands out I. Know when we first you've seen our logo, it's got this got this skull I know how I came up with this branding idea we're like, should we put a skull on a food proxy? Enough people are GONNA be. Weird about that. But I think people know they understand that we're a military themed brand obviously is completely healthy for you and are good for you But that's our whole thing is you know intensity it doesn't have to be a military person enjoying but I think people think people align with that intensity in the you know I guess the determination that we put into our branding as well. But we've had nothing but great feedback. You definitely niche. You do definitely niche down and focused not necessarily just on military type people but you know maybe start military mindset kind of thing or superstar fleet. So you can. You can laser focus on that niche, which is great. Do you do you think that's affected your business model in any way as you don't appeal to the to the general consumer or the soccer, mom's not going to buy the K-bar you know with me school on it or do you. Almost any type of any type of brand or or that you have you're going to cut someone out at some point regardless like I. I'm not Akito Guy Personally. So I, would ever by Akito Bar I'm right off their Merthyr market right away. But. It's you know it's funny. We introduced introduced a strawberry flavor recently and We saw I wanNA say almost a fifteen to twenty percent increase of women aged twenty to twenty seven again. Don't quote me but we saw increase in women buying that flavor alone because I maybe maybe there's just an appeal you know. It's hard to tell I mean there's a there's always going to be a chance of cloth to someone not everyone likes the military. we've definitely gotten a few of those comments But. There's haters out there. No matter what he stand for. So yeah, I mean I could I could do nothing in someone would still hate on me for doing nothing. When you came out with the strawberry versions at all the blue people come out in space speak against it because they were loyal now or no they didn't because we we paired the two up in a little little discount. By size he can get a both 'cause they made it made sense to tie the two together. But now people love them both as what we see if someone buys strawberry, they usually snag blueberry right after. worked out for us but yeah, knows but now it's it's been interesting to see Again, we are maturing We got some really exciting things coming on August surrounding our branding a raw. The our our soul and our core still going to be there but it's GonNa be I'm really excited about it's going to be. Great now. As far as taking it to market did you start with online sales or we get into retail read away? We we one hundred percent focused on the online sales You know that's where really that's where the revenue. That's where the money comes from right now we started tiptoeing into Jim's want to say maybe. Maybe four or five months after we launched, we started the tiptoe process and that was people coming us I did do some door to door salesman stuff for a while when we first launched because, I'm to at the name out there which which actually was received pretty well and We got some gyms lined up, but there was a chain of attritional stores out in the Mid West Called Max Muscle not sure if you're with Max's muscle I've seen in Kansas City Reynolds doesn't sound there. Yeah. I'm not sure if they have one in Kansas again, their locations I believe are mostly in the mid West seem to go all the way up from the coast down south but they wanted their early stores, pick this up, and since then I think about thirty of them get now, which is awesome. I was phenomenal and we didn't really push that it just. Many. Discovered you guys. they started sharing samples of the other stores and say, Hey, you guys need to get this and then we started getting feedback we went to we went to some public events and whatnot and we had multiple people come up to say, Hey, I had your part as my gym is carrying them now and we're selling out of you faster than anyone else and me calling for like perfect. Right there but the the online focus was is definitely d focus We're not anticipating going to Amazon my dad anytime soon, we wanna we, WanNa build our customer base Ourselves then accents emerton a really good job with that by a by the way we're doing this approaching people were networking were getting samples out able to try once they try them they're they're sold there they understand what we're working with. That's awesome. You're you're also a partnering with Enduring Warrior and you got some other aspects of your company supporting of veteran veteran organization. We'll talk about that. Yes. So Operation Enduring Maurier they're they're enduring warrior dot. Org. Yes. They are phenomenal people. They use physical events like Spartan races. parachuting used those kinds of events to rehabilitate veterans. First responders who have been injured in the line of duty nine necessarily injured they could be people at separate and they're they're that team element, which again I know breach of the car you know how that is when you. It's probably one of the most difficult parts are transitioning you. You lose that team. All Sun So, they they focus on that and we when we launch a way founded I. Think it was Colin actually with as he should do we should we should tag. Team up with someone right off the bat like before even launched the product. So. We did some light reaching out to. During Warrior we we spoke to one of their members Jonathan Lopez. He's You'll see him all over He lost a leg in an accident and he's one of the. He's one of the guys all over their website doing crazy stuff way better shape than I'll ever be just doing crazy stuff. We had the final story we had launched already at my brother's House in Florida and Jonathan called us. He's like, Hey, do you mind if I stopped by and we're like, yeah. Okay. Cool So Half an hour. Later, he up on her doorstep turns out that he used to live two houses down in this neighborhood my brother looked at. So knew the neighborhood is pretty pretty incredible He was our first non really embattled bars person to try the Blue Falcon he he loved it. We had a great conversation and literally from then on we were resolved like he's going to be our partner and we they feature on our podcast pretty pretty regularly they we've met up with them events actually got one going on this weekend in Ohio it's there were exit. But. Because we are a company that wasn't making profit, the start we did resolve to donate or some are prophets to them But because we're early company, we were making profit the time we do that through either product itself or just assistance with events and stuff like that But now if you want our website, we actually built in donate function, which is great. But yeah. Amazing Organization. There are one hundred percent volunteer They just do incredible things their task for sentinel is focused on first responders and they've been doing some great stuff to lately just bringing a lot of police in etc that are that are struggling. So. Yeah. Right from the start they were. They were the guys who wanted to be with than it's been. It's been amazing so far. Awesome. Leong. If somebody's interested in chicken battle bores, how do we find you? www dot battle bars, dot com, and roller instagram facebook etcetera instagram We have a lot of great photos you'll see some of those zoe w dudes and dude that's that's at battle underscored bars underscore, and yeah as the two main places you can find us on that I'm sure you'll see adds up pretty soon now that you've talked to me. Great. The all over my computer like battle. Exactly, so I've had much worse so. I do want to give you the last word I. You know if you're talking to somebody in the military transitioning and getting out already got out whatever. Military Spouse military-type military member in there, looking to get in entrepreneurship and they wanNA, start doing business and we'll do something besides go out and get the tissue J. O. B. especially nowadays, I can even get a job in a cube from shutdown but. We'll what kind of advice you have for somebody this really wanting to get into entrepreneurship or run their business. I again. I would say one be patient I. It's not GonNa. Come overnight for sure. To, you need to identify your own weaknesses and fill those gaps. Early on in the process, especially can me a lot throughout this whole thing Just try understand where we have weaknesses and kind of adapt and overcome from there and then really just don't be disheartened by not having Sangji don't think you have I mean two years ago. I. Didn't have cash for didn't have a website but in a product, we didn't have a team and here we are not even full two years small two years later now so really that's it just. Don't don't get disheartened it'll come if you put the time in the research into it. Awesome. Will in the thanks for Sharing Your Entrepreneurial Success Story. Good luck to you and your brother and everybody else their battle shares in We have you on the show here another year or two when you gaze become world famous and. MILLIONARE's. There Yeah Yeah. So for your future success appreciate your service in those hotspots. Glad you made it out. Okay. So thank you. All right we appreciate it and. So that's it. These two veterans are asking Mike. Vick realistic a veteran on the move your Pathfinder Freda if you like to show. Review in ITN's reviews always greatly appreciated. So. Until next time this veteran is Oscar Mike.

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Veteran Entrepreneur

Veteran On the Move

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Veteran Entrepreneur

"Rise of the veterans noor with army veteran rico danielson coming up next of veteran on the move. Welcome come to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition and entrepreneur wanna be for someone still stuck at the g._o._p. Trying to escape this this podcast is dedicated to your success and now your host joe this episode brought to you by the yeah no law firm if you're active duty or retired military and you're diagnosed with tonight is her hearing loss after using those yellow and black or yellow and olive doing deter plugs he need call one eight hundred five two zero zero zero eight nine 'cause you may qualify for significant cash compensation three m. knew of the defects but failed warning about about him so if you're in the military from three to twenty fifteen and you are now suffering from diagnosed hearing loss or tonight's then please give these guys a call one eight hundred five five two zero zero zero eight nine right now we're talking with riko. Danielson riko came up with a new book rise of the veteran manure before we get to talk about that rico ticks back until which do new army a joe. Thanks for having me on again. I really really appreciate it so back. In the army actually started off as ninety two fox of fuel guy and then <hes> quickly changed my job to combat. M._o._s. deployed to iraq went to afghanistan as an operator later for three little organization do know j. stuff and then also what's a haiti after that <hes> came home with law school and then also was awarded the warriors a you're recipient scholarship for colorado university after that also became a local commissioner local politician for cd scottsdale where advocated for veteran rights and i still do after the city of phoenix serving on their commission board and then in the process i owned a couple of different businesses and then on top of that <hes> wrote two books the first battlefield parenthood and now this one one of my one of my masterpieces is the rise veteran. You're fortitude grid all right so a couple of years ago. We had you on this show and we we talked mostly about your the first book that'll battlefield parenthood some really really want to hear about your experiences with rise of the veterans newer tusla bit about some of <hes> some of the businesses you got into initially <hes> before you came to write a book absolutely so the one of the first businesses that i've actually started. There's a few of them when i got other heroes like hey. I'm gonna start this t shirt company called the red blooded american ethically gli failed. I actually wound up donating about two hundred t shirts to <hes>. I know right of veteran based t-shirt right. I want couldn't and sell these for anything not even. I couldn't even get away so i actually went out to the local v._a. Phoenix a and they had this homeless start program where if you graduated you get all the stuff so we know just give it to all my fellow veterans and a come later in life i would see red blooded american my t shirt on the people that would help in court now. I was like oh man. I had did that shirt so after that <hes> i want to try and get into the government services business. Do laundry doing anything. I could get my hands on transplant water this and the other that evidently failed and then i was like man what am i doing wrong and when i was in law school and also saw us in arachne afghanistan. I saw a lot when we do a lot of raise reduce gnashing grabs. We would actually grab not only the computer visit cellphones out wash. The sergeant is intelligence. Large inches inches. Do the dump on the cellphone. Now's like man that that's going to be big so you fast forward no after law school i actually started up a company called fortitude tech a digital title friends firm recovered delete text messages and that's all i wanted to do for criminal cases and civil cases and little did i know this actually spiral <hes> not add control but in a good control shoul helping out different cases anywhere from <hes> crimes against children to money fraud money laundering <hes> get engaged by the f._b._i. To help advise on those things a capital punishment death penalty cases it was really really fast moving and i really enjoyed it and i kept going into that and further further and then i expanded the business into incident response helping small businesses get a get ahead of the power curve whenever they have a breach or cyber breach or whenever they're it being for ransomware whatever and helping them coordinate all the the brand the publicity to media and also doing the forensics as well and and coordinate with law enforcement souls decimated fun and during that process i said hey you know what i can't be the only veteran doing this so i actually started writing a book and this book start off as a journal and i just wanted to say okay well this work. This didn't work and i said you know what i'm going to go off on a whim here and i'm gonna go interview for different businesses <unk> veteran based businesses and i just wanna see what they were doing and i had the gumption to actually reach out to dan the owner grunt style and as it heyzer fifty minutes of your time and i think we run around for like six months and finally he called me on a road trip with his son in the car and he's like this is one opportunity. Let's do the interview interview so i did it. <hes> he provided great evidence <hes> he provided this thing that i really live by now. It's called method up if it doesn't add up and don't do it right and then <hes> a reach out to another one called <hes> eighteen series nutrition and these are all special forces operators greg is and actually want beating with one of the gentlemen and he said hey <hes>. We're all in rotation except me. I'll fill in orders so you can do the interview with me while i'm feeling orders a fantastic and one of the things that i took away from them was the blueprint right if you have a blueprints and he can hand a repeatable process off to your teammates this this this would actually help your business grow faster and easier but i'm better right and i believe yeah so i believe but when he was on <hes> some training new mexico go him and i tried lincoln up he actually one leaving in his partner picked up and out already done writing the book by the end but i want to do some follow up and then the other one the other two people today are interviewed was tried in coffee at a san diego the cobra coffee fantastic stuff he denies kind gentleman and he answered a few you questions and we captured in the book and then also the two guys at glendale arizona or the zona than brands of american grains. The these guys are the himmy of what it means to work with nothing and do everything they would scrounge together there there would and they will put with their craftsmanship into an hard work into the would increase his beautiful wooden flag and actually have quite a few of them and one of them has demanded arena a statement in there and i love their flags and stuff and what i wanna capturing his journey of going from you. The american grains guy all the way to there to there to the garb are not the the garage all the way into whether they go work in the oilfields in they come home. Hohmann actually do the sixteen hour workdays. We know dan o doing grunt style. You told me that he ozone t-shirts had of his back of his truck. Which is awesome. <hes> eighteen series nutrition attrition. Would you know capturing those guys journey of a we had the distinct do and an edgier be responsible teammate in capsules. Uh-huh journeys was really really fun and what i was like. Hey i'm gonna put these things together and i'm gonna give it to my veteran community and see how goes it's fascinating. What you what you did reminds me of kind of like what napoleon hill did he went out and interviewed lots of really successful people just to find out common themes and hear their stories and so i'm familiar with a couple of businesses that you know some of the guys that you interviewed but <hes> go back go back at the beginning and maybe go through through in more detail <hes> of each one like grunt style for example like what were some of the some of the big takeaways you mentioned a couple of already but like what was some of the big takeaways or more detailed takeaways that you got out of interviewing these people and seeing how they really operate in you know there's the skills of their trade read their meant their mentality that they have yeah definitely <hes> one of the things that i that kind of stood out for me. It was very much very common sense. If it doesn't work don't do it right and now even looking further back into it was about alignment <hes> daniel <hes> from grand style says the best also american grain says that the best <hes> there are saying saint. Hey aligned with somebody who believes in your product believes in your service and just go with it no matter what time of day it is. You should should be able to call them at one a._m. And say hey we're gonna. We're gonna do these things for these people and they'll go with it. <hes> a lot of people what i sees go into business <unk>. They wanna help supposedly help a lot of <unk> a lot of people but they're benevolent. Genda is money <hes>. I believe daniel wanna just eat a camaraderie and the continuation nation of service to country. He did it this way. <hes> ben ben and brand american grains <hes> same thing want continuation so they aligned with each other and eighteen series nutrition. I mean those guys were in sync with each other at any given time <hes> no matter what they did no matter where they were even if there were one of them was in afghanistan the other one was north carolina or or vice versa or the united states. They were in sync in alignment with each other. I think that's one of the biggest takeaways that i pulled away. You know that's fascinating to me that these guys are. How many of them were there like three or four of them. Were what could be deployed and the other one's back in the rear running running everything and then they do they do you hand off the baton as one come and gone and everything still seems to run smoother like did you ever i figured out how they were on the same sheet of music all the time like that like wh- tools in was it really about their their business philosophy and how are they doing. Uh so their business philosophy was very much hands on and has be genuine. I know ev every order which were thousands of orders though they will do. He was actually sent out a handwritten note. Thank you very much for your support of our company in signs so and so and <hes> the way they streamline a process very much lean six sigma sigma driven say you know we assemble box way. We put the product this way right here here. Here's the spaces is dimensions. Here's a typo box we use. Here's a foam home. Sign note send out and it was very repeatable processes and they've written out themselves a good manual to do that and i think that that's how they're able well to say hey. I'm gonna go ahead afghanistan. I'll be back in a year and a half and then the next guys up and then they they sorry they range it up and they'll make it able to have well. That's awesome so so what do you what do you think some of the common themes are with these veterans that are they're starting to starting in running successful businesses in and how much of their military experience military training did they incorporate into their business business so i think a lot of these veteran base business these these four ones that i interviewed and i'm certainly quite a bit the steam as well as the fortitude in grit your ability to eat crap for longtime and be selfless to your business that means incubate the business as if you want to grow the business as as if it was a child right you give it the nurturing the love and the attention that it needs no flourish wherever you want it to go right to do the great thing and i think that on top of the fortitude in grid where they actually know bared down and i was like hey man. This is not paying the bills but i gotta do. They just gritted through it. <hes> it takes salat to <hes> to do that financially because a lot of people i have financial obligations <hes> along not not on this book but another book that i'm trying to write i. I interviewed a gentleman or a veteran. They said hey. I'm gonna live in a trailer park. <hes> for the next ten years and that's what he did in the other book that rightness called the rise of the intrepid. You're in his specific gentleman lived in a trailer park for ten years drove the exact same car for fifteen years <hes> and when he got to the marine corps and he's just live this way and now he's a i believe he's a nurse anesthetists anesthesiologists nurse and now he's just killing it so so like i think if you stick to the game plan eat a lot of crap not in a bad way right <hes> and then also live well below your means and have a purposeful intention towards the business as if it was a child. I think you'd be successful man. If you're active duty retired military were you diagnosed with tonight is or hearing loss. After using three m's dual engineer plugs these earplugs were yellow and black or yellow olive. They are often called christmas lights instead ahead of protecting your hearing they actually permitted damaging sounds to get through if you're issue these earplugs while you're in the military and then diagnosed with tonight as your hearing loss call gino law firm at one eight hundred five two zero zero zero eight nine because you may qualify for significant cash compensation so again if you're in the military you're issue do these three m duel ended yellow dark earplugs and were later diagnosed with hearing loss or tonight is then call one eight hundred five two zero zero zero eight nine nine right now to see if you qualify for cash compensation you see three. M. knew of the defects but failed to warn anybody about them. A whistleblower lawsuit that three and quietly settled made the case at three manipulated the test results to make it appear as if the plugs met government standards but they didn't so if you're in the military from three to twenty fifteen fifteen and you ended up getting some kind of your suffering from some kind of diagnosed hearing loss tonight is then give these guys call one eight hundred five two zero zero zero zero eight nine and keep in mind. This is a lawsuit against three m and not the government or the military so your benefits with the v._a. If you have anything like that it will not be affected are back talking with riko danielson author of rise of the veteran. You're a rico for the break. We were going over a number of different. Characteristics takes in common teams with these veteran businesses that you hid in lies in the the owners. You had talked to <hes> where things we're tied to discuss on. The break was breath. One common theme you noticed with most of them is they were very into routine in self care absolutely one of the day eight one that stuck out to me. Was you know eighteen series nutrition. <hes> those guys before they started their day the actually hit hard hit fast it smooth whether whether it was training for a marathon i think one of the guys did like ultramarathons or or something of that matter <hes> but the guy that i interviewed he was like a before if i'm not deployed the first thing i do you know before i <hes> you know kiss my wife and child and stuff like that i get out. I run my miles. I do my morning p._t. And then i manifest my day right and he's he's added with the family and then he hits the business and then he goes about doing some more p._t. Same i'm with daniel. I saw a growl. He was doing a lot of p._t. But his well-balanced work life balancing again after was spending time with his son if he wasn't spend time with son son he was getting africa's business and he did very well job. Now we look at the guys from <hes> american grains right brandt ban <hes> one of the jomon just love to spend spend some time with his family and actually going on today a hunting excursions in northern arizona where he can just be mindful by himself and the other person just let us in the pool to have a beer and just hang out so it really depends on your characteristic or your personality but i think those are insurmountable things that you need to do <hes> because this thing is gonna be long and hard and you just need to have the ability to have some self care self care and be well balanced within yourself well yeah it's awesome and one of the things as it was mentioned was <hes>. They said that become the expert that everybody wants. Everybody needs yeah so when i was interviewing daniel of from grunge style <hes> he's like a if you don't know you'd better act like you know it as you're right and <hes> the other part he's like if you're you're not the expert become the expert be act like an expert being the routine of being expert engaging in there and understand what your customer really truly needs is. Stop selling them. Stop stop. Stop trying to give him products. Ask them okay. I'm the expert of which you need. Okay you wanna t shirt. Why do you need a t shirt. Oh is it for working out then. You don't wanna go through this polish over here. You might want to go through this stuff here and check these sneakers out type deal you know <hes> and now you're becoming that consultant you become that expert <hes> same with american american grains right <hes> the american grains guys say hey. What are you trying to achieve with his flag. We gotta create for you. Oh is for a war to memorabilia veteran got it. So why don't we try a distinct. This would be speak a little bit more context. Eighteen series nutrition was specifically for a high performance operators athletes and they said hey man tell us about your day to day. A are you burning for you know four to sixty four to six thousand calories a day okay. You don't wanna do this protein. You might wanna try this protein and is ancillary products because it's going can help you recover that twice as fast so they become the experts in those fields yeah so no they customer and can you know they weapon. Open systems is so oftentimes some of the things you're discussing. It reminded me that oftentimes when you you ask the customer what they need the first couple things they tell you is not really what they need they they they kind of give you a surface answer. <hes> in these guys figured out that you're gonna be a true expert in that field you have to really dig and poke around and get to the you know the the tertiary the the lower the several layers deep before you find out the root of the real problem or the solution that they're actually looking for absolutely i agree. I agree a hundred percent yeah so what are some of the other things that you noticed about these guys in how they operate their business <hes> yes surge there's definitely different <hes> some different personalities and a little bit you know personal preferences in there but there's definitely some real common themes with you know how these guys approach things with with their business and the customer base and how they're operating in their in their habit patterns and everything how much of this was the things that they implemented from their military experiences a lot of it a lot of it drew the idea of the ruck march syndrome ruck march syndrome right which is this is going to be a long hard rock. March is going to test my fortitude and grid is going to be difficult but i have to know that if i'm important to work one foot at a time and getting in there and actually being attention and being patient with my with my movements it will happen but it's knocking to happen overnight so i think that's that was a very big common theme. <hes> that was captured in the book of aid is gonna be tough. It's going to be hard that it's okay. I know what i wanted to do and i'm sticking with it. Yeah you know you mentioned earlier. Also that especially when you brought up the subject of the guy that's gonna live in a trailer park for ten years. The reminded me like tim ferriss longtime ago. One of his first books that you put out was if you want to if if you're scared of going in entrepreneurship losing everything just you get a basic tent and go live for a couple of weeks out in the woods in and nc what going all the way down to zero feels like what what you find is going. All the way to zero really. Isn't that bad. I mean if the worst thing that happens to us as you're living in a tent out in the woods and you've got water supply in food. That's that's bottom zero and if that's what happens if does we should secure to just try for a few weeks which realize zeros not not that bad then. You won't be scared of it anymore. I agree. I agree. I i have actually personal experience where i was after coming home from one of my deployments life was beat me up pretty good was not a happy and almost became couch from pretty much being homeless and <hes> like i was like hey this this is this is ground zero and i would always ask myself. Is that okay i can do this. Get after more and i actually want to become a lot a lot more in life and i'm very happy that i hit ground zero faster than i did exactly so <hes> you know related these guys talk about some of the failures that they had it experienced in business early on to go into much detail with that <hes> so their businesses were success and they hit the mark right on the head m. I believe eighteen nutrition. Don't don't quote me on this but i think leave. They actually shut down temporarily because they were trying to shift priorities <hes> so that it wasn't assertive failure but just <unk> shifting priorities <hes> i think britain ben from american grains when they first started out like man. We're we're getting nowhere so i think they had small small incremental failures but not a big failure. There were there. They couldn't get into right t._v. Show they can get into the right marketing and it was just one obstacle. After another they just kept forging forward to making it happen and then daniel he said there's a lot knows a lot of people tell you to f. off and you know he he understands and respects that anybody abate you just kept going forward so he didn't really say those failing <hes> failures but failing lord in what about <hes> when when these guys were starting their businesses did any of them discussed or mentioned <hes> any programs or resources that they use the you've found that might be common amongst them or or even just some cool. What do they get help the houston's a._m. Start business and the next day they were running a business like. Did you find any common themes there anything stick out so that's something i asked as well a little bit later said hey did you go to any better or groups that you get coach mentor <unk> coaching programs and and they one of them was like i don't believe that stuff <hes> i'm just gonna go after this specific way and an help and ask for help when i need is from his wife i i believe and then <hes> and then there's another time where <hes> the other guys they they just said hey we have an objective and they teamed up together and they ah created their own support system and they went forward and made it happen bram band not that i'm aware of. I don't think they had a coach didn't really have mentors. I think they just had a defined mission. They went after well. Yeah that's pretty impressive. Yeah what were some of the any <hes> some of the some of the biggest obstacles pickles that any of them experienced <hes> did they discussing sounds like they might have stub their toe and got off to some slow stars or whatever but wasn't there were no monumental disasters monumental failures but did they discuss <hes> like some of the big lessons or surprises that came out you know now that there are farther down the road and more lead to success at this point like any big surprises that they were not expecting. Oh yeah yeah there are tons the big surprises when it came to american grains as soon as they got onto a t._v. Show or a commercial or they're notified the scaling up. They're like whoa you know the the lead time to may factual <unk> disease. These flags are hand done by just two guys with craftsmanship. I mean you can only go so so fast and so far. I've doing everything by hand and then you still have a fulltime job and family take care of it so that was kinda. A rollercoaster in i think the assorted that out <hes> in regards to eighteen nutrition. I believe you know full order fulfillment in a timely manner. They were really good about that. As soon as they got more media exposure exposure they develop another game plan another blueprint saying hey this is how we're going to scale it up the southern scaled down and they will facilitate that <hes> daniel <hes> he he did a really good job in regards to just drive in the mission for grunge style and he just let it that way <hes> even though it was funny the purpose and a lot of people were like why should i buy your t-shirt and and just driving home the purpose and the value two of the of the product itself such as t. shirt and everything else for the customer yeah yeah so if you were to summarize <hes> furious summarize what you learn by interviewing these guys in writing your book in you know you're out. You're trying to relate that to some guy who's just getting looking to get out of the military here sooners going through transition and he's asking you some advice on. Hey man what can advice you have for me. If i'm looking to start a business when i get out yes so <hes> expect failure. I would tell them hey your first. I business may not be it be discouraged. This is a process <hes> in that process. You're going to incur a lot of a lot of failure a lot of hiccups a lot of determine turn moments <hes> and then the other part would be dream bigger and visualize bigger than you think <hes> daniel grunstein said at the best <hes> <hes> he's he said hey. I've always had a mission to work with the n._f._l. And if you look at him now that's what he does. He's in embedded in the n._f._l. He's very much of a big sponsor and he has a big correlation to <hes>. I remember one of the things i ask. Hey in the beginning <hes> digital. We wanna know you wanna work for the n._f._l. And he's like i've always always always dreamt <unk> but now visualize to make it happen so i would tell them you know. If you're going to get out <hes> you know do something. You're really good at and be the expert and be patient and keepdriving forward. If you're gonna just know you know your yourself be self. Aware of your business know yourself. If you're gonna open up a veteran based coffee company or a a t shirt open you're half of me. Just know your walk into as heavily saturated market and so you have to be patient to get in there number two. What is he going to be. Your your <hes> your zinger in there right what is going to be can differentiate you from everyone else in the big juggernauts as well right yeah so talk a little bit about failures <hes> you definitely learn more from mm failing than you do succeeding <hes> it doesn't mean that you intentionally go at something so you'll fail because we try to be successful but it some of us ended up sitting on the sidelines for way too long because we're trying to wait for something to be perfect before we jump in and we want to be successful. Can you talk talk about failure. Maybe even from your own experiences <hes> what failure did for you in in a failure business ideas for your business models right right so <hes>. I failed a lot in life. I felt a lot business. I fail to law school. <hes> one of the things that i always now that i look back at it n._s. Okay that's my mile marker. Now <hes> cool. I got two ma mark fifty one to fifty one percent on that exam or whatever right or only make fifty one dollars a a go now that i know that they all should be no reason i can make a hundred dollars and you just try and you pick apart dissect as you bring him back to your internal lab. You say okay from ma one mile three would worked okay just moving my answer would just keep moving my feet and you just break him down and and barney boot style steps right. Hey this is gonna work is it didn't work. Watch offered this pitfall. Watch out for this business partnership. <hes> define your business partnership. You know little things like that so everything is really having to put your ego aside. If you or i had to put my ego aside and say why didn't fail per se. I just things just it didn't work well rico. We're getting close number time. <hes> so i'm assuming we can find your book raza veterinary wing find that on amazon zahn or any other good places to go looking for it yeah just on amazon actually <hes> put it on youtube as well for the audible version so if you guys want to go on their areco dance and there's a youtube channel i fear more of a personal wanna listen to stuff and then also it's on audible as great. We'll put some links to eh to your book in the show notes for the show so i give you the last word. If you're talking to the guys in the the military is getting out. He's already going through transition. Maybe a military spouse and they really wanna start your own business and run their own show. What kind of final advice would you have form. Yeah <hes> the one thing. Is you know dig deep dig dig pretty hard in regards to your <unk> grid right. <hes> also have a game plan. Even if it's it's a small napkin game plan in stick with it and have some patients and then just know that is not going to happen overnight and just go with it and just keep ryan this roller coaster they just know you have a default goal and you'll be all right got you got enjoy. The journey is not all about the exactly exactly rico law. Appreciate you sharing your success stories. <hes> personal business success stories in <hes> talking about the book and in sharing the wealth of those other the veteran businesses is great stuff. You gotta in these. Two veterans are oscar. Mike thank religion veteran on the move. Ooh you're pathfinder to freedom. If you like the show we review and i tunes reviews are always greatly appreciated so until next time. This veteran is oscar mike.

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Live to Give with John Wayne Walding

Veteran On the Move

28:52 min | Last month

Live to Give with John Wayne Walding

"Silver Star recipient and army veteran John, Wayne Walden Tux. Bet His beverage company live to give coming up next a veteran on the move. Welcome to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition, an entrepreneur Wanna be someone still stuck at that GOP trying to escape this podcast is dedicated to your success. And now your host. Joe. Bring. In thirty years as a Navy federal member, I've had many loans with them, and now by refinancing your out alone with Navy Federal Credit Union, you could have more money in your monthly budget navy federal members of the mission learn more at Navyfederal Dot Org. All right. We're talking to veteran John Wayne Walden from live to give. So John Appreciate you being here today you got a phenomenal story to hear Before we get to talk about business entrepreneurship, which you guys you're doing with your beverage company lived give take us back until which it in the army. Well Joe. Thank you for having me. Today means a lot for what you're doing to veterans to spread the word, and so it really is I never take imitation lightly to have people come in and I want to hear. Disarray next Groesbeck Texas Bannon Soda fact that you wanted to have me on I appreciate that. And my military service was a it wouldn't do long as only about twelve years and the majority of that. I in a special forces group. started off on opiate, three, three, three, six, and then. lost. My leg in two thousand, eight I didn't lose a leg accountability of it. Right? Army's a big deal that I got his. It just work anymore but after the amputation I became the first eight bt to graduate special forces sniper school at the work at this hyper ash after that. pretty much July got out of the military in two thousand thirteen. Well, it's incredible In a I know. How. Much you want to go into it but I know you know you did you did ebb losing your leg and you're able to keep the fight going to the enemy for like four hours after that happened. So. Probably, probably a different time for different story just wanted to throw that in there. So and there's a whole lot more to that to that story than than you mentioned. Along nate office I'll just get the bullet points real quick about fifteen green berets along with sixty F-. Gani counterparts went up to pretty much two hundred fifty Alabama. And after six and a half hour seventy danger close air strikes. There were two medals of honor awarded. The air crawls eight silver stars a purple hearts and we want. That in the best statistic is zero American kill. That's the best attested of mock well, assess standing. Incredible. Thank you for take for sharing that. So as it came time where it looks like you're GonNa be medically retired at of the army Talk about what your transition was like. I mean, you've obviously had some phenomenal experiences in the army twelve plus twelve plus years in the army. What were things looking like for us for his transition? Well it'd be quite honest with you. Joel Stern is terrifying right as a not only a special forces soldier, but how about being a husband and a father to kids? You know and I only have one leg and a lot of baggage of being deployed right it. The comes with that and to get out was something that was very terrifying thing. You know how not only am I gonNA walk but how am I going to you know provide for my family because I was the only you know a source of income whenever we were in the military, my wife US aided homesh actually you know to this day actually still home schools are it's And I was very blessed and fortunate to have a lot of benevolent agencies helping us. I'm a very big advocate for you know Greenbrier Foundation Freedom Program a lot of these aid which by the way, which is what Limburg gives all about, right yeah. You know that's kind of where the genesis of all this started was. You know I, know first hand that the true impact that these charities have on veterans and person on your live there and. Fiddle. The freedom was the one or the transition that really was the quarterback that that got me across the goal line and helped me get to Dallas Texas where I am now and gift you know into the House that I'm in at and revived me a network of people. That just truly you know by the no handouts right once in there when my hand out saying Gimme GimMe Gimme but not only thing that they gave was opportunities. lets the thing I want better known that the world didn't know anything but you know you, you signed up serve Ainhoa. However, you deserve an opportunity and it's up to you to do the best with that opportunity right. You know I think sometimes I'm not sure exactly what? What the situation was you were in, you had a lot of agencies helping you was because they found you and you were willing to accept their help or whether it was you went and found them because you're looking for help. But that's a very important point for veterans getting out in the transition process is there's a lot of agencies out there. Let a lot of. Great folks willing to help you. But sometimes, you have to find him sometimes right to go ask for help and then you have to be willing to accept their help. It doesn't mean you have to do this completely on your own. Hundred per se right? Yeah. You're not looking for that hand even if it's a hand up, you still going to be looking for the hand reaching down to you and you've got to be willing to grab it and and and help yourself get up there. So Can you talk? It. Is it's not a handout. It is a hand up right that that's what the you know. These are just a absolute vast majority of Americans that love what we do for our country. Right? They love the fact that we serve and and they truly do wanNA help and and. To your point. The Mo- one of the most manly things you can do is ask for hill you know and I really wish de In Our community you know the deal it's it's a you know pride is a heck of a thing and and they need to get over that and asprill because at the end of the day you know as a green beret. Out Is that transition in corporate America it doesn't. On on a resume but problem solving in and the the work ethic debut. To not only do what I did but same thing you did, that's what transitions in people in help you learn that if you just ask exactly. So talk a little bit about the first couple of things you got involved in job wise or career wise as you as you came out of the army and went back to Texas? Yes back to the transition you know it was a terrifying thing and I did move back to Texas and and it was a Roll right into job quite frankly I had to you know go out and find one. I did have a network of that symbols helped me out with but you know my wife and I was fine. We kinda got into argument at one point because every morning I left the house I didn't have a job but I left and she said you know we're you going on subtler with the kids and I said, Bay for my entire adult life. You know I did six thirty P T. I got up and I went and I left the house I said I don't know where I'm going but I'm gonNA keep moving and at one point is GonNa find me somewhere And that's exactly what happened. I met a Chris Cow. American. Sniper who you know the navy. Seal. is a murder deleting diet of lead structure for his company. And know and from there. Obviously work in obviously after his death I At started, my own company, I started a gun company called five toes custom. Always. Say That was my middle shared the Taliban you take on named the company after. Nova and It did great. We had you know at a place where we hiring vets I had a navy guy and to marina or marine into navy guys work in India and. I was fortunate enough to sell that and that's whenever I started Gallantry Global. Logistics. Right now is is a ship company that our purposes to higher bits and And why we're on here today you know of friend of Mine Zach Smith reached out to me about a product where when you buy something, you give half back to the first responder charities. And man just I was all in and and that's what ultimately became lived to give and. You'll I'm so excited to see the amount of good that we're GonNa do just by still water and I think about that I. Always like to say numbers that smartwater sold eight, hundred, million dollars in revenue last year imagine if we gave half of that away like what lifts and in the do right everybody you buy from us were given half the Net Profits Veteran First Responder Cherries. That's just we're going to be all about and I keep going what are you know all the good is going to happen with that I'm just so excited to be the well as awesome. Well, Hey, we're going to we're going to take a quick break for small ship in in Mugabe rapex let's stay In my thirty years, navyfederal member, I've had mortgages, personal loans, credit cards, and auto lows with navyfederal. It's always great doing business with Navy federal because they understand the military mission in the needs of the military family if you're looking for ways to save more each month look no further. Federal Credit Union offers members great ways to lower their interest rates and save more by refinancing your utterly with Navy Federal Credit Union, you can have more money in your monthly budget you enjoy low rates and flexible payments in terms plus when you refi your auto from another lender with Navyfederal, you'll get two hundred dollars members save more when they refi. Navyfederal enjoy low rates and flexible payments. In terms it's easy to drive off and save a navy federal members of the mission apply online or via the mobile APP visit navyfederal. Dot, org learn more terms and conditions apply insured by NCUA credit and collateral subject to approval refinance must be at least five thousand dollars to be eligible for the two hundred dollars We're talking with John Wayne Walden army veteran, and from the live to give beverage company. So John, before the break you were talking a little bit about how to give got started. Take us back and tell us how you met Zach Smith and what that story was where you guys came up with the idea for live to give. While always like to say that liberty gives started with Tacos you know we're Texans and we love our tacos out having a tacos with a good friend of Mine David bound that the easel under Louis Louis, autoplex and. Come to find out where Zach bought his car to. And Again Ob- firmly believed that God put us together you know because. Zach reached out the David said. Hey. Let's go have lunch. We'll have lunch with this break guy you might want to meet him. And that's whenever we started talking and he told me what he was wanting his idea and. He asked me if I wanted to be involved in in you know I actually told him up. I didn't say no. Let me thank on it for a little bit because I'm the type of guy that if I say, yes, gone all in. And prayed about it sucked my wife and came back and. It's funny because whenever I came back to them, that's my wanted to partner with him in the company. It actually moves from Alabama to Dallas here because after beating me said Yep, that's the guy that would that that we need to do this do. You know that that we were going to do this and for you knew urine. Yeah. Yeah. He he knew before I knew and so that whenever the work starts, right? Very. Fortunate. That good friend of mine is Larry Yung is or mercy of Dr Pepper. And I ask Larry. said. Hey. Megan idea about this. You know we went to lunch and And we were actually thinking energy shots. You know the first time. Larry was quite sick. You know what need the water? To make everybody drinks it, it won't kill nobody. Larry. That's why you've been doing this for thirty years, right? But you we we. Started doing water and and I think it was a great idea. You know it's reverse osmosis water with electrolytes minerals added back. So it is the enhanced watery gray water. You Know A, we want the consumer to sacrifice nothing that's our job that's over going to do. We're going to give you the same price the same product you just know whenever you move your hand three inches. Grab our bottle live to give that we're GONNA change lives and. It's been a heck road. There's a lot of learning that comes with dealing with you know brokers and buyers for different. see stores and chains and things that. You know on the battlefield we don't have to deal with. Right. Can you talk a little bit about the business aspects of basically starting to bottled water company? Yeah so it was. A lot to learn we we good friend of ours that now that Dave Evans they marines. Great. Great American he's a water source one. We know we reached out the film through Larry's a contacted and. Has Been Our Yoda you're right. He's been shown as the ways of the force. And through that. Finding the right KOPAC right the arrived bottler that does to be able to do that Orson. We were very, very fortunate enough to meet See Force Bottling Company, which is owned by Chuck nor so how cold is say John Wayne waters made by Chuck Norris Right. You know, but they make water, they have their own water, which is more of a spring. Water is not like ours. We do have a different product than them and they've just been a great partner and. And Yeah that's that's where we got where we are today and and I was doing a radio interview. You know at that time we really had we're only on Amazon, which by the way we sail probably the worst product that you can on Amazon water waters heavy and his cheap rights ain't nobody gonna it really costs boarded the ship, the product does to make it. And we were trying to get into see stores and other different. You know grocery and things of that nature and I was doing a radio interview and I said know. It really. Feels like it's easier to fight the Taliban getting a grocery store. and. The Guy that owns a few seven elevens. He heard me on that radio said, you know what? We're going to give these guys shot in a all that day. and. From that date and our in over one hundred seven eleven stores, and we're in a lot of third party stuff from Tim's. Dealerships of that nature, and so we just got a great success record in this by the way happened all through code. You know. So the fact that we couldn't get into a lot of grocery stores because of coded happening, you know we still get into one hundred seven elevens and still there ride as big deal and so we're we're excited to see where we go. Once the world kind of gets back to normal and we can have these line reviews and and meetings. Or when where we're wanting to happen at worry march. April. Yes so So you guys just got started. You really officially got started re probably somewhere around the first of this year then. Making. Watery November of last year is really when we had a bottle of water, you know there was honestly about a year and a half of. Process that went into this. You know we were very fortunate to raise the money that allowed us to do that you know with the. Investors that we knew in in the Dallas area and So then for about a year and a half, it was all product design and and were is going to be with the low going to be with you know all of the stuff that you have with the business right the charities you know what charges arena deal with it was very hard for us to find quite frankly a law enforcement and first responder charity. That's national. His Rig is the one that chair that does you know the helps both firemen, ems and an law enforcement to define. One was was ally order tasks and we and we ought we did find one with jive charities. They were very They've they've actually been a great partner were very, very lucky to be ordered them. They're doing great things and and so finding the charities was another big process began November of last year really is when we add bottled water and and started start hunting for. and. As far as finding the charities and the nonprofits that are out there doing the right things. said, that was a hard process. So because there's a lot of veteran first responder nonprofits out there. You know you can. Almost you can't really swing a dead cat without hitting one, but he talked a little bit about maybe What you found you know looking under the hood in screening some of these non profits as far as you know, maybe they were being run properly or you how you vetted them to make sure you were finding the right ones. Yeah. Nigga I'm glad you asked that question because that's you know transparency is what it's all about right then you. Have transparency to give you that faith that what we are doing is good. This is never gonNa work right and So I was berry very adamant about making sure the right order you know we had a lot of of guidelines that we needed to meet. You know of Earth's one, the head of the national. So we had you know because of what we what we WANNA do learn to make sure and we can help somebody in New York just like we can help somebody in Arizona right. And So that was one thing we wanted to make sure that the overhead was below. A fifteen percent you know from a business side, you know you can't do anything for free. You GotTa hire people to work on the business. You know charity is a business a lot of people need to realize that and So we wanted to make sure that the the overhead, all the goods and services that products and services were eighty five percent of from what they gather is going back to the proofs, right? We wanted to make sure that that that that was happening and obviously has to be in our wheelhouse we we build up we raised puppies for you. We can't cure homelessness or anything like that. But if it's better, I honor you know off the three that we to that point we went with. Old Of honor was a great organization that they're actually kind of neighbors to us they have a chapter here in Dallas and. If, you're not familiar with them. They give scholarships, the children of the fallen wounded in home. So that was their their great great a partner for us to have forever or to be automated. Them Jibe charities like I spoke about they were the the law enforcement and fire and ems. You know they do three things better in first responder and rare disease kids with. Rare disease and worked to deal with in where all the monies that we contribute to them is going to go to the long you know arm in ems side and again their national brand the rate of task force dagger was another one that we were very fortunate to get involved with their lot in their little lesser known but they're the nine one one for special operations. As obviously with being in the special operations, be able to know of all the battlefield you know that. We don't know about right is is gone by the end There's a lot of capability gaps it. That the Special Operations Soldier serling airmen Marines have that. Need the help and so those are the three that we went with an end Ultimately, you know we're actually talking about starting our own foundation to help to make sure others a lot of you know not to get long winded, but there's a lot of legalities with having these partnerships called. Venture Agreement. That, we have to have with every charity in every single state, but the hundred fifty agreements that that we have to make sure is good. So we're GONNA do is roll it into. We're going to have our own charity than relationships are pretty much the same and. If there is something on the side we can help with we're going to be able to do that but But then that's in a nutshell how we went through the charities. It takes. The explicit detail like that because mean some of that, some of the things you mentioned are very valuable and when people start coming up. Like with the Coca Cola adventure man that's one hundred and fifty. Every single state in by the way that something they have to do not us. So from a business, you know we're the ones that get in trouble if they don't do their, you know their due-diligence and and you their charities not lawyers, right? Anyway, that's why we're gonNA, just started to get out. Yeah. Okay. That's awesome. So now that you guys are are up and running in in you, you're you're in a lot of stores especially seven eleven stores What are some of the biggest obstacles you guys are still facing his basically just trying to expand more and get into more stores or are there other things that they're standing near way? Yeah, I won't talk about the obvious. Kobe, right. We know what happens whenever the world shuts down. So That that's to be, you know we already know that but from the business side from that really distribution, right? That's the big deal. So there's there's two types of models that a lot of people don't realize there's the direct to consumer model, right? Like a black rifle coffee that you know you're not really going to go into a Tom, thumb or a program, but you can buy it online. You know that's the direct to consumer type of. Strategy they have the traditional retail strategy where you can go into a grocer in the other you know thing on national level and when you are on the traditional side, the distribution is that honestly that that's the that's the business right? If you don't have the right distribution to get you know to an all soaps and New Mexico and to acquaint trip in Dallas right it is not going to work and the finding the right to partner from a distribution aspect has been a big challenge for us. because. We're not big. You know we're we're our startup small businesses and we do have a lot of success right now you know but From the beverage side, a hundred stores quite frankly is nothing right when you think of the eleven thousand stores that. Just, seven eleven has. You know all end nationwide and so that's one of the. Challenges that we're having announced a distribution arm. And as far as distribution partner like for example, instead of you kind of had a unique opportunity when the seven eleven see you heard you on the radio but or somebody that worked for civil limited budget so It's one thing to try to hit you like Oh, I wanna get into seven eleven. So you think I'm going to go straight to seven eleven or Go. Goes quick trip to get into quick. Then it got to go to this crucial. But. Distribution Partners There are companies that already distribute to all of those places. This point. Right, right. Because when you do go to AC's is a perfect example right now, right the what better place to sail more water than. Right and a works with a certain distributor distributor that we don't have right now. So we have to you know just because they may want their product the business side behind that needs to add up as well right and that's just one example of many other people that were talking to you know this chain likes to us mclane where this chain likes to use in a different company and and So we're talking to Keith and some other people right now that distribute one is quite honestly willing to take a smaller company like us that you know that is worth the squeeze for them. and to it gives us the ability that when we do go to these chains to say, Hey, look, we're already being distributed by this person Yup. Come here. Anyway you know makes it easy for them so MacLean You mentioned me actually McLean Distribution Center right near my house here in kids. Awesome familiar with them like Mcclain for. For example I didn't realize this but somebody told me A huge amount of all they do is play all the stuff that goes into convenience stores. So if you're a convenience store owner. You don't buy. You don't buy all that stuff inside the store from hundred different companies you buy from like one or two in one truck shows up in in throws in everything. is is how it works. So absolutely yeah it's a learning on the plot. To your point right. The also may not us mclane where you know they use this person and there there are a select few and find that processes. It's been fun. It's been challenging you been shot at. This is easy day and. We. Just gotTa grow through the the punches and keep the ball moving forward and we're, GONNA kit look I keep saying Joe we're GONNA. Do a lot of great things you know what I think is so unique and it's not that we're giving back. There's a lot of companies that give back. What I think we're doing is we're allowing everyday Americans the ability to give back daily writing you don't have to wear uniform to serve everybody buys water everybody goes us or in a can afford a dollar fifty water dollar eighty dependents one meter neo. So that's what I just truly think that we're going to do so much good you just by selling water. Yeah. Well. So somebody was to look up a live to give other than trying to find you in a store. How do we find live to give and how had we? We find your products the easiest ways, Amazon, right we we are a nationwide, Amazon. So go on there and and obviously you can every chip view. To Your House in and in the Dallas Fort. Worth area. Go on our website. Actually, if you want that we we have a fine me age with a map that has all the different stores that we're in right now and. and. Yet. Okay Great. So. John. If you're talking to you in this entrepreneurial game, if you're talking to somebody that's looking to get out of the military one, wanting to run their own show star business somebody in the transition right now. in in the wanted to do something besides go out and. Get. The. Typical. J., O. B.. What kind of advice would you have form trying to break into the entrepreneurship game? Well we kind of mentioned earlier you the looking in the charities that help. There's a lot of charities like symbols of freedom is is like I'll say them again because you know it's not that they financially, they give you a four year life scholarship and. You know what game back before they even give you that scholarship you have to be a serious veteran that wants to get out and do more and know or they've been best into you and with that it's more than just the money. It's also the network. You know they walk into Ross. Perot's Office for he died right you walk into Randal. Stevenson. In eighteen office when I moved in Dallas there was the chief of police the. Dean of Collin College, the Homeland Security Director all big slew of of people in that community and we walk in and you know Mike said, hey, here's John. How are we helping you? You know and so. our earlier point. Ask for help you know find people that truly want to give you a hand up and. Be, vulnerable look you you. You have to get in that uncomfortable in a scenario you have to you know be comfortable being uncomfortable and little bit of that. He knows having that. Boehner ability to get outside that box and try something new I'm a logistician who knew that with the shipping company I'll make water like you know that one learned as you know, you don't do that boot camp for green beret school. But I do know how to you know go hard lean forward fight hard and never quit whether that's on the battlefield and business. It's the same you know you as veteran, you have the same aspects. To be the CEO of at and T. if you wanted to be the your own company and I was just up to you to have the courage that vulnerability to to go out there and believe in yourself that you can do it. That's awesome. Thanks for Sharing Your Entrepreneur Success Story, we look forward to hearing the great success that live to give is already done and to do in the future and you know if we can ever do anything for you here at dinner on the move Bellamy's lists. No. Yeah. Your Best I appreciate the invite and anything you need from me. Let me know you bet all right these to. Ask Mike. Listening to veteran on the move your pathfinder to freedom if you like the show. Review and I tunes reviews are always greatly appreciated. So until next time, this veteran is Oscar Mike.

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"Welcome to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition and entrepreneur wannabe for someone still stuck at trying to escape this podcast is dedicated to your success and now your host job in this episode is brought to you by bench bookkeeping if you're an entrepreneur the last thing when a mess with his bookkeeping but it is a necessary very evil in this world of entrepreneurship bench bookkeeping relieved that huge burden for me and my business because bench puts bookkeeping on autopilot to checkout bench and get one month free of bookkeeping and take that task off your desk good a veteran on the move dot com slash bench today we're talking with shay harms from second act business academy shea. Thanks for being here looking forward to hearing your entrepreneur success story before we get to talk about that. <hes> business and entrepreneurship takes back louise and tell us about your background well. Let's see if you wanna go back really far. When i was in college i started carted off studying entrepreneurship. That's where everything began for me but for some reason i ended up in this computer space it does seem like computers or my thing so i followed the computer journey as long as it's taken me so far over thirty years of being a computer programmer and a tech lead project manager and whatnot and and somewhere along the line my true roots of being entrepreneur kept calling me. It's like you've got to have your own business so in the early two two thousand ten eleven two thousand twelve in that timeframe i started off on a journey to figure out how do i have an online business attacked a few guys at work and they told me about doing in drop shipping and that kind of got my interest up then i found wordpress and i thought oh komo a computer programmer i could build my own website or i could hid uses tool that will build my website for me so i started learning all about wordpress and how to build websites and then i went to my first conference which was new media expo expo- and i heard all about podcasting and i had just started to learn about pie casting a few months before that john lee dumas had just came out with entrepreneur on fire. A few months is prior to going to that conference so myself. My husband and two other guys were the first ones to ever attend john lee dumas meet up and so i got to know john on from the get go before he became the john you know as of today and <hes> so it was really cool. It really inspired me. John pep me up and my other friends pep me up like you. We need to have your own podcast too but the problem was. I didn't really know what i wanted to talk about what i wanted to do. I just knew i wanted it online business. That's all i knew so i ended up coming back and i signed up for course on how to launch a podcast with cliff ravens craft learned all the ins and outs did everything the right way a launch my show and it was called sooner safari and it was supposed to be about my personal journey to weight loss and i ran that for a couple of years and had <hes> you know i got a lot of experience off of it to learn how to interview. I met lots of interesting people. I talk to people that were in the weight. Loss industry are people that were personal trainers or yoga teachers. People lost a lot of weight so it was a fun show to do but to be honest. My heart really wasn't into it. I just picked a topic and started running anyway so go ahead. Sorry i cut you off when we new media. Expo is <hes> i'm. I'm actually john only do miss train podcast who believe it or not. I was new media expo for the first couple years there so it might have been might have been there at the same time that's awesome. I was there in two thousand listen. I think it was thirteen. It was january and i think we went back in two thousand fourteen. Maybe two thousand twelve in two thousand and thirteen always get the two years mixed up a couple of years in there yeah. I think it was definitely only at the at the two thousand thirteen event. If i remember i was in vegas yeah. The one in las vegas where we probably don had a meet up and most people didn't know about it. I reached out to him because he had just lost the show. He's like six weeks or so and i was like hey are you doing to meet up. He goes yeah. I oh yeah <hes> yeah. I remember talking about that <hes> he he had he had just launched his show is just getting ready to launch your show and you went to that. First event was just collecting as many business cards and as many interviews as he you know create in his interview list from the from the first new media expo yeah a he's definitely still going strong. Absolutely many many of us were hoping our podcast would rise to the fame unfortun- of john lee dumas but didn't quite get there yeah. There's always hope we can still try so had you been ed. You listen to lots of podcasts leading up to this. <hes> obviously hadn't known something about podcasting before you're looking to start your own a only listen to a few because as i was a i found a podcast. It was actually a five k. like couch to five k. Podcastone all it was was music and i found that by flipping through on my old <hes> whatever they were called the not the iphone but before that whatever those players were called and i was using that and i was like oh what's this thing what's a podcast and i found this and i found on a couple of other things like a religious type show that i was listening to you for a little while and i didn't really understand what podcast was about. I just found something to listen to pass the time especially because i was commuting back and forth to overland park kansas from where i live up north east kansas so i had a two hour drive and i needed something to fill that time besides just music and and so i only found a couple of shows and after listening to one or two eat hear them talk about somebody else like i was listening to one show and they said talked about pat flynn smart passive income <music>. I'm like okay well. Who's pat flynn so then i started listening to his show and he would talk about somebody i start listening to that show so i'd only listened to maybe three or four podcast before i went to new media expo expo and because they were having a good track about podcasting at new media expo that's where i really got on the bandwagon and so so so walk us through what you learned about podcasting when you when you first started when you started your first podcast thank you had several up to this point in you know the to the you know the the good the bad and the ugly about starting your own podcast and how that went for you early on well. Luckily i had really good training with clifford. His craft used to be the podcast answer man but i don't think he goes by that anymore. He had great training course. I think it was four weeks long but it was is enough to make sure that you've got your podcasts launched. If you followed the plan every single week and i did that and there are things that i didn't know what to listen for doing edits. It's probably still don't know what to listen for to be honest but <hes> i found in the beginning especially. It took forever to edit a show. That was probably one of the biggest surprises to me. I enjoyed the interviews. I enjoyed talking to people the recording was easy but then when he actually tried to put in some music for intros frozen altro and if you want to add any more music throughout your show try to play with some and then you know sometimes there might be a problem with the audio recording in the specially with skype. Sometimes the audio drop a little bit. It just surprised me how long it took to do all that editing at the back end of it. Oh yeah and then of of course the more you do it. The better you get and i'm a adobe addition guy myself and it does so much more than just doing the basic stuff but you've got to figure out how to were all that stuff at and the buttons and the techniques and everything but i used to do all of my own audit editing in the beginning but i've tried to pont as much stuff offers physican over the years for myself up for the good stuff you know which is actually doing the interview so so so tell us about what you're doing. What you do know was sick and so connect business academy yeah so i took all these years like i said started in early two thousand thirteen up through now of learning learning how to create websites how to launch pike cast how to edit videos and i thought you know with my technical background. I probably should be teaching something about tech. So what i found is. I was attracting clients that were closer to my age so i called the empty nest phase but it doesn't really mean you're empty nester. It's basically basically people that have decided that they wanted us something different in their life. They wanna leave corporate. They wanna leave their nursing careers. They wanted to change directions altogether and they want ought to find some online business. They can call their own but tech hasim freaked out. They think i'm not techy. I've had clients telling me that they are literally afraid that they're going to break the internet if they publish their post or update a plug in and wordpress so what i try to do is calm their fears. There's and say okay look. You're not going to break the internet. Let me show you step by. Step how you can create your wordpress site for instance and i answer all those little questions that youtube videos are great. You can learn a lot of youtube videos but you don't get a chance to ask questions when something just doesn't quite work the way you expect something to work like the theme just doesn't respond correctly or plug in gives you a funny era message on wordpress so that's what i do now is. I help people that run into problems like that and i also help people with permission that they're doing the right thing because that's the other thing i found with clients is. They're not sure if they should continue with the path that they've started. Maybe maybe they have a passion. They started building a website presence with it but they're not really sure. How do i monetize this now. Should i do this should do that and it's like you know what to do. You're already you. Tell me what you need to do. You just need that permission to say yes. Go do it so that's kind of a second. This caps kademi is now. I got audited by the i._r._s. Yep yep for the first time ever. I got audited matter of fact. It's still ongoing for the year two thousand sixteen. I i was real concerned about my books and all the information that was required acquired by the c._p._a. To get through this audit then i remembered i'd started bench. Bookkeeping awhile back frantically went into my bench account using being the bench app on my phone to see if i'd started using best before twenty sixteen huge relief i'd actually starting twenty sixteen but i'd had bench go backwards to the beginning of the year so everything was covered when we were able to immediately provide all the required information her c._p._a. He was very impressed with their bookkeeping organization and our records just smelled the well. It's not really that i'm very organized. Thing is because i have bench. That's why so <hes> with bench even an audit from the i._r._s. Became no big deal. I will never be without bitch. I believe that once you try bench you won't ever be without them either so right. Now you can get one free month of bench and see for yourself how great they are good veteran the dot com slash bench check come out there sign up using for a month. You'll become a believer. You don't even have to enter a credit card number or anything like that. Just use them for a month and i guarantee green tea. You won't want to be without them back talking with shay horn from second act business kennedy shave before the break. You're talking mostly wordpress and coaching people through word processing was chuckling inside when you mentioned when a certain theme isn't responding the way we expected it to. I don't know how many themes i've bought lot for different websites and i by the theme 'cause i want my website to look like that and i applaud the theme and my website doesn't look anything like that. It's like so it's so deceptive like by this theme because it's great and your website can look like this in you in the by the theme. You realize that's really just the beginning. Yes i mean so. How often have you been coaching people through some of this stuff. They start to come to realize you know what i i really. Don't wanna learn this habit. I just pay you and have you do it for me. That is so funny you say that so i started down this path a couple of years ago and i started off doing a seven day challenge on how to create your own website and that generates some great feedback and comments from the people that were going through the videos but i did get some clients off of that because they finally just said you know what this is great but i really don't wanna learn. I'd rather just pay you. Would you please build me a website another source of income for me to kind of do freelance work you think you're in the coaching business and all of a sudden. You're in the website building business themselves. Oh and that's understandable because there are so many thousands and thousands of themes out there on the internet and most of them like you said you try to go install him and it's it's like well this doesn't work and if you even use the word press a repository of all their themes and you see this beautiful picture and you say yes. That's what i want. Install it. What my sight to look like that right and all of a sudden you install it and also it's done. It's changed a few fonts and you're like wait a minute. We're all those pictures and where's that fancy lay out or no. It's like endless in an and that's what starts happening when when you want to become an entrepreneur and you wanted to start some online business whatever it may be like well i just need to get a website okay so quickly during wordpress as well and it just seems like next thing you know you're bogged down in trying to put up a website and you've totally lost touch with the real. You know what your business really. Is your your business too because your business is not learn how to stand up a wordpress website but all of a sudden you spinning days or weeks doing nothing but trying to get a website website up and running and you're not really actually run your business absolutely yeah totally agree and that's the one thing that as i'm trying to build out my membership academy right now. I'm actually actually gonna be teaching the basics on how to use the newer features like page builders and there's several page builders out there that are really good. I've used beaver builder. Currently i'm using element or there's a new one as just on the market and i really think it may surpass the other page builders that are out there in the nice thing about these different tolls that i'm using as a lot of times they come with not only theme a layout that all you have to do is import and imports with all those images and all the layouts outs and so now you can get a website created literally a few hours as long as you sit down. I and plan out what you want your website to have on it. Like what pages do you want. And how do you want things positioned and if you come up with a plan and then have one of these templates that you just import now it's a lot faster to start editing everything the thing and that's what i'm trying to teach him. I academy. I don't believe that it's an easy. I'm sorry too many times. I love the page builders. They are simplifying. It and it's come a long way since when i started just six years were well. I think my first wordpress site. I built in two thousand ten so one those nine years wordpress has really come a long way. I mean even with like shop. If i you know i've stood up a couple of shop. If i sites for some amazon aim is on products in it's like shefa you'd be up and running overnight. No and i consider myself a fairly tech savvy kind of person but i'm older but i've always been in attack and everything else so i've kept up with it but it's it's never easy and never comes out looking. Look if you really wanted to if you're doing it yourself just it's just difficult. It is and especially if you don't have any design background because if you don't know how to like put together or you don't realize that you shouldn't have ten fonts on a page you should probably have like two fonts for instance. If you don't know those kind of things in your sights not taking a look at no matter what page builder or what theme you install yeah but i've talked with a number of people over the years had the same experience that you've had where they they they thought they were in the business of teaching somebody something and next thing you know they're in the businesses is doing it for people instead of teaching them because people at some point you realize i can't you can't go through business. Just learn how to do everything myself. It's not going to happen and that's why. I'm hoping my kademi is going to be a little bit different than a lot of the online courses says that she can purchase right now. You go out there you find a course you get signed up and then they just kinda leave. You like how fun good luck where i'm trying to do do it with you program ram so that i'm teaching the skills you need but you can ask questions along the way and if you're moving onto the next phase your business outside a wordpress maybe now you set up an email service provider ryder like convert kit or get response and you're like. I don't know how to begin with this. Process will then that's what i can come in start creating videos for you and again. I'm going back to doing it with you so you're not just out there on your own wishing somebody would help you. I'm actually trying to hold your hand and help you get everything accomplished understand that it <hes> the completion rate or the success rate of online courses. You know people just get barely through you know. I've bought a number of myself. <hes> <hes> advocates about the same. It's you get part of the way through it and you realize either lose interest or you realize way too much to learn more time time or whatever it may be and let union finishing the course our gosh. I've spent thousands of dollars on online courses. I totally relate yeah so with with the with the second business academy going a little more detail exactly like if someone i'm happy to buy a course with your training course how how go into more detail how different it is whether we just watch videos or interactive with with you. Are we well instead of being just a course. It's actually a membership so it's a recurring subscription and i actually have to through pliant so one plan is you buy it at a lower price in that gives you access to just the videos and just the q._a. Calls that i do every month but the more hand dan holding it's more like kind of a group coaching session actually but more hand holding part is where i actually you. Contact me and say look. I'm really stuck with this. Can you explain how oh i do this and i can create quick videos on how to do certain parts of the process and send back to the person has the question so again. It's really a lot more of interaction between me and and the person i'm working with instead of just here's your course and let it go. I'm starting off with wordpress because i feel like a lot of people just wanna website up. They wanna know. How do i get my business online fine. How do i sell my products and services so that's where i'm starting and i'm trying to go into more detail than things. You probably find on youtube. I'm sure everything i cover can be found on youtube but you have to go search. Everything and i'm trying to put it in a progression and talk a normal speak. I learned when i techie my entire life but i learned learn most everything on my own so i didn't necessarily learn the right terminology for everything that i do. I just know how to make it work. So that's the bottom line yeah well. Sometimes you know being if it's relatable <hes> you can relate to the problems that whoever's in your courses the problems that they're having because you've been through it yourself and whether they ask you a question on an online webinar or if they send you an email and say i'm stuck here if you you can create a quick screen loom video or something like that to answer the question because sometimes when you're stuck on on a specific thing. You just need the answer to to that right now. You don't need a whole course exactly yes and that's what i've done for my clients on a one on one basis but now i wanna take it more to group membership level because i want to help more people with that. I know how frustrating that is. When you get stuck and you spend hours maybe days trying to figure out. How do i get to the next step. Why isn't this thing working. I ran into a problem. I'm this weekend. When i was recording my videos i was going to teach with one particular theme using the elementary page builder and it's the theme i've used to work with some of my other websites but for some reason reason this weekend the import functionality to import the template was not working and i finally decided you know what i don't wanna have this problem in the future for one of my clients so i'm just not even gonna use this theme. I'm gonna go back to the basics. I'm gonna show somebody how to from a plane page how to drag and drop the different elements and how to customize the page instead of relying on a the theme or a template because tech tech. You know things just break. It happens to everybody. It's not just me happens to everybody and you just have to either have a lot of patients nations and work yourself through it or find somebody that has expertise that can say hey look. I've had this happened before and create yet. Quick to five minute video here. You go all. Let's move forward. Yeah i mean i it's it's daily. It's a daily frustration with trying to do is sometimes you're just trying to do one simple basic thing and you sit down in some that should have been less than five minutes also in your narrow and a half into it and you still haven't got the one little thing you tried to do. It happens all the time time it just it gets the point where you know when something comes up like oh. I got to go do that. One thing it's just i loathe having to go do it because i'm just expecting something to go wrong and it's going to be more complicated than really has to be tech happens in. I love tech like i said said. I feel like i'm fairly tech savvy but things never seem to quite work the way you want them to. Yeah matter of fact i got one for you google or email templates or canned responses. Have you used those i. I looked at him several years ago but i haven't ending with them. Recently i just ended up sending out my own emails. Yes so you can you can have a canned response to certain things. I have it. Whatever in the every time you get a certain email you just open it up. Go cameras send this response boom. It sends it same response to the same problem every <unk> time and so. I thought oh yeah that's great. I'm gonna use a canned response and i go in and get all set but mike in response. I needed to send them attachments. That's my cane response uh-huh after playing with it for twenty thirty minutes ah came to the conclusion that canned responses must not work with attachments the only only you know the only response was needed a need to because i need an email that responds where i can have like three attachments in it. That's that's the information. I need to give. People people in this canned response not long winded email just need. They just need to see the attachments but it doesn't work. Does it work for a test but so so then you you have to either punt or go find another product. Maybe that will do the same thing for you right and you spend more time. Yeah just gave up interchange in the next frustrating thing so once. Somebody has her website up and running. You're working with him. What what are some of the other things that what there's some of the next obstacles or things that typical the typical on my business owner needs to get into place. Usually it has to do more with okay now that i have a website now what while you have to have a product if you're going to try to sell something actually have a business so i can give them suggestions on ideas. Maybe they already have an idea for an e book that they want to sell as a digital product product or maybe they actually know they wanna teach and i wanna do their own video course but they don't know how to handle the video editing in luckily i do have background in both a mac and a p._c. I see so. I have my own references of tools that i like to use for both and that's something i can help them with as well so if they're on a p._c. I can tell them like what software i recommend or. If they're on a mac i'll say go get screened. Flow install that start recording your videos and the other thing is i always like to know how do people want to have content on the site. Do they want to be a podcast or they want to be a youtuber. They wanna be a blogger and if they want to be a podcast her i can actually take them through the steps of getting their podcasts at up and getting it set up into hosted dont lipson or hosted and bus sprout and just taking that entire process how to get in at i tunes how to get into all the other podcast players and once they know what what their content channels going to be you know help them be consistent with that so they can keep getting that content on every single week and then. How do you set up an email provider because now she got content pupil. Gonna start start finding you now. You have to have a way to capture. Who's listening you know. Find your audience whether the reading your blog or watching your youtube channel so get them back into an email service provider while now my clients gone well. What's that how what capture a lead so. I have to break that down. Forum show them how they can use canvas to create a great looking lead magnet and then to find the source provider. That's right for them and then help them get that setup and earlier this year. I'd helped when my clients with male chip up. It was so frustrating for me because i cried all these videos she got everything set up and i was ready to take these male tim videos and just put them out there on my my membership academy and literally the next week mail chimp just went and changed everything i don't like. Are you kidding me. So that's a challenge with tech. It's always changing always adobe. Adobe audition comes out with a new update in it happens in the middle of the night and i don't even know what happens in. I'm getting ready to do a podcast interview and i opened up my audition and all my settings and everything have changed change because of the update like how can you guys do. An update totally changes my settings and of course i don't. I don't mess with my settings but once every six nine months so i'd totally forgotten how to redo it and i've actually i've actually dropped interviews because of the scenario so if somebody's if if somebody wants to sell physical products mention amazon sos what's your opinion shopper fibers is wordpress <hes> well. I have one client that is is using shop today and the biggest problem for her. She wants to add podcast to it and what i mentioned to. Her is for shop a fight at a podcast. It doesn't have the freedom and flexibility that haven't wordpress site would a so on the flip side. I have another client that its using woo commerce to sell products on her wordpress site and that seems just a word really great. She already had wordpress site setup. I so it made sense to add the plug ins allows her to sell her products so i think it a lot of it just depends on what what came first the chicken or the egg. Did you have a wordpress site. Set up with your all. Your identity really associated wordpress than i would say. Go ahead kennesaw the plug in but if you're somebody that really just wants to focus on having a drop shipping store than i would say probably you shop affi- because it's a from what i understand i have not created my own site there but from what i understand it's pretty quick to set up a site there and it handles its job well which selling products yes ascend. There's several people have talked to have pretty much the same opinion they're like well. If you really want to do a really good e commerce site they gotta do you gotta put on wordpress rescue so much more flexibility in programming availability whereas shop if i kinda because when things are real simple they have to kind of lack you into only doing certain something so it's kind of a give and take right you mentioned was it wou- commerce somebody uses what is that we'll woo. Commerce is a plugin that allows you to set up your own store inside of wordpress and if you search for we'd pro if you search for we commerce you're going to find tons. Huns of plug ins that work with with commerce. You're going to find themes that are specially designed for commerce. It's just a it's a free plug in as well so it's a really popular one for anybody wants to set after online store in you actually get more capability in flexibility than you would on a shop of eyesight well you would because you have your wordpress site. It tells you to install whatever plug you need. In order to make your site flexible have to look at that because we're still working working on whether to do shopping fired wordpress and ishai charges you monthly fee and you can probably get into a wordpress this site in heaven plug into everything for a whole lot cheaper right but you're going to have to work or not yes or hire somebody did for you. That's right yeah so <hes> so she. We're getting close the end of our time. <hes> tell us tell us specifically about second act biz academy where we would go <hes> the cost. If you want to go over that would somebody who courses right for the course is going to be right for somebody who is really not tech savvy and they just feel like tech is just a burden so if they're looking for somebody that can teach the basics and they just want a chance to do the q._n._a. Calls that are going to live then they can get on on a subscription level. That's a monthly recurring for forty nine dollars a month. If they want somebody that's going to be giving them a little bit more hand holding at actually saying look i will create new videos for you and i'm going to do this process with. You're not out on your own. I'm actually just launching eighteen this academy so the beta price is gonna start off at two ninety nine a month for the do it with you but that price will be gone up later two four nine a month because it is more of a group coaching call. You're actually really getting my time. One on one with you to make you are to help you go forward and that can be found at second act business academy dot com really long domain name there her and i have a podcast also called second act business academy and soon to be launching a youtube channel to go along with all this so that i can show more of of how to do a lot of this stuff for free so people can see more about how i teach and how i work. We'll share a look forward to your future success. It sounds like a great program. A degree course check it out and appreciate you sharing your story with us. Thanks for having me. This has been a lot of fun. You bet we're out listening a veteran on the move your pathfinder to freedom if you like to show leave us a review and i tunes needs reviews are always greatly appreciated so until next time. This veteran is oscar mike.

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Disconnected 036: We Are Pristin (feat. Kyla Massie)

Disconnected

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Disconnected 036: We Are Pristin (feat. Kyla Massie)

"So it's Monday morning at eleven. AM which means disconnected. The CAST. Time Mr Josh. How been why just woke up about an hour? Totally sleeping by this is life. Ah Yes so In regards to my week quick recap on that Finished my religion of the adventures zone. The first ARC's really good got to play some games on switch. More three houses still haven't finished it but I'm close also the liar. Princess in the blind prints us a really cute game. Actually I saw some screen shots of that and I saw that it was on sale. But I haven't been pretty good. I mean my former what type of games so it is the platformer. I really liked the style. I think my only criticism so far haven't spent too much time into it but sadly most of that time was the intro because it does have this kind of a fairytale storybook beginning but it's pretty slow pace and kind of drags on after a certain part of kind of kind of want to get to the game now but oh was it. It's really cute. It's Nice Nice Nice. I recently watched a a documentary. That Kinda SORTA released right now. They just released like a stream version of it. The physical product hasn't come out but it's a It's called in search of darkness a four hour documentary covering eighties or films moving cool. Yeah now. pershing James Ralph is in it own. Hi Lloyd it Kaufman and of the toxic event. That's cool episode together before Yes yup so a lot of horror and they're and yeah and then also been watching some video. Essays from a Youtube Channel discovered extensive. Senator when I told you about Chinese WHO changed personal lives in Canada's went to film school and just a whole bunch of Video essays on foreign films which Freddie interesting because I haven't really seen much of that kind of content before so you don't think up slow. Baton goes to mallory while it was Thanksgiving so that was cool. I had my. I've got to play Xbox X.. Cloud from my phone during it of what I am I was very fun The Games with beautiful. You don't get to play mobile data yet. You're just using your normal wifi but I mean so far everything is looking good The the only thing was multiplayer was taking too long to find an actual match for me. So I don't know what that what that goes into me and my friends so me and my friend are trying to set up like to see if I can play with him while he's on his xbox and while I'm on because it will give you. It'll show that you're online on xbox live we. We just didn't get a chance to try to play like gears of war together or some game on Some game that we both have a they have the halo the halo packages on there. So we're going to set that up this week and I'm just watching both Amman gameplay right because none of us about that yeah I know I'm you're starting to kind of give in a little bit more. I see from it. It look cool. I am still salty bubbles or missing but almost to the point with the game does look really good where I'm almost like you only turn off the only thing that turns me off that I've heard so far is the whole. There's like a level level cap of like you can't win the wild zone areas. You can't just somehow luckily catch actually something way above you. 'cause I guess they kind of did that to try to prevent what I did in Sunan Moon which is wonder trade until I got a bunch of level on hundreds. Then even they would listen to me. One shot every JIM leader to the touch. Yeah so it's one of those things. I think they were trying to do some sort of like as far as I would assume I don't know any vision statement. That's the only thing I've heard a lot of people get annoyed about that. I feel of being a gripe is like a game mechanic thing where I'm Kinda like but other than that the you know. I almost cracking almost cracking. Which I believe there's actually because of black Friday some good pokemon deals going on somewhere But guess what not buying any yet. So there's that other than that did video on it and I got to play more more of really cool stuff rogue like RPG elements and That is pretty much for my week in terms of other than that just holiday staffing table more relevant early because this is a game news broadcast and we're going to get right into the gaming us right now so one of the first things that come up this week against the Oh by the way because I know the guy just said what the hell because I tuned in here for your guest. Now you guys I guess that's all despoiled by the title of words is featuring right. Don't worry later on missile. We'll be joining us on the line because thanks to technology allergy. She can do that and because she gave me time and just very generous and vendors will be there. Oh God it's going to be a lot more organized. Isn't this part. But don't worry she will be there later on staging and also stay tuned for how awful the Luke Stadia continues to be so status and a lot of things. We're not going to be dead horse because the last zone we talked about the priest released horror and the the Post stadium release. Horrigan both had their own problems. Look bad from distance still looks better close. Although of course there are a few people let reporting that it does work well the are still having like the whole order cancellation fluke thing. That happened in the mail. Another thing that kind of came out into just seems to be. We will timing where this just highlights. How not ready? The stadium is a top off of just mismanaging because Google is not a gaming platform proper one other than playing your phone games and even then they hardly have anything to do with making the Games for that well neither on this but my whole point is they just can't handle certain things that they've never done something like this before and one of the things that happened. Remember jokes about how destiny to announce free to play for stadium. Then eventually just went free to plan everything all right. Yeah well one of the things that happened is a couple of the launch titles Tomb Raider and farming simulator nineteen. We're obviously available to buy it launch. Some people bought this to play. Then they became the free games as part of the pro subscription around. He said they give at least a game So who bought them. So I don't know the flat came first or they. Then were just literally saw the flat coming in the distance and swerved real quick so they have refunded the games with me but we did. We had bought that. But it's just another one of those things like were as you're biting getting into the unbathed cookie you realize baked it is is when flaws like this are still happening. It's absurd but that was just. That hat is somehow one of the only real estate here for PAS this week which given all the other stuff we talked about that. So bad. That's it's You Know Oh wait a second. There's the fact that with Google Stadia. How do you guys buy your games on your on your console's whether it's Nintendo intendo xbox or or sky say that switch playstation or Xbox were you all your switch which exists here? You're Microsoft switches and your playstation xbox when you play on those how do you generally purchase your games if you're not gonNA do the physically if you're a person of culture and you're going to do it properly where do you buy your games like. How do you do it on xbox now to the the Microsoft store that's on my experts by it makes sense right? Yes and a playstation Mr Josh. How do you do it I just go to the PSN store rude there on the dashboard that makes sense? Is that how you do it on Google Stadia you cannot buy games at least law. I don't know this has been couch and passionate as far as you know as a reporting You cannot buy them through. There isn't a store in Google stated you have to without ill cellular device go to the stadium a deal against the website as we cover many times And so you just go out and you buy your game in your phone because there's no built in store in this totally complete console. So That's how you buy games for the stadia media you go through. Can you imagine having to you can't purchase xbox playstation us through your phone but you imagine adding to that what it's just like you haven't fired up already like like of course you're going to have the contrarians be life but hard to like actually had bad experiences trying to buy something from the. PSN's store on my phone. So there's it's been like super annoying. They're absent the browser on a mobile site. Drops in crashes and then you're paging friends. It's just bad there was one time time. They've probably fixed it at this point but I remember one time I was trying to buy something through my phone. I think it was at work at the time during my break or something and it wouldn't even let me put in either my pay pal or my credit card information to buy the damn thing I know it's it's it's just how again eh lying. That's even worse. Because that's Google although media games now and ninety yes so we'll go work. Isn't Ed Stadium eight months when it's dead so pat gives it a year and a half. I'm going to give it eight months. We're GONNA have both pats. That's where we're standing on spectrums. We're giving a year more than the other. Just say happy years. Eight months. Yes well. That's the thing okay. So where are we again okay. So this morning actually. Yeah exactly so yeah this morning right. I've been over caffeinated myself a lot and that's causing issues like this When I reverse crash in the morning before half the caffeine yeah yeah there you go don't reverse caffeinate Reminder there's an online game in China is pretty big called Justice Online. There's this we hear about these ridiculous case examples. We talked about micro transactions being apparently in this game of war in the UK that person spend over forty eight forty six thousand US dollars micro transactions their kid which is talking to other examples of that this guy willingly spent one point four million. US dollars on his mobile game. Man Whatever it is they in Asia. They love their like their phone. RPG battle whatever the hell game that is. I don't know But yeah one four million dollars on on a character in it any game even proper any game even VR arguing. What are you know making it? Good yeah making them good all right well. Their friend mistakenly a stake in Lee sold their character for five hundred fifty four. US dollars so What a horrible investment? So it's not even the dollar. You're not even going you're not even like Like this is the worst launch and ours transaction action however I can't even think of the term the actual term. Now it'd be like all right guys. So this item brought it is valued at one point. Four million in dollars. I'll give you five fifty four. Thank you shake. And you walk away fabulous transaction. Yes so he's ran. Even that's what I was thinking. Take the lead. His his friend accidentally got this character so that he sits father lawsuit against his his friend and company. That made the game. Yeah it makes no sense. That's that's Weird I. I don't know that's been resolved since but we'll see where that case goes. I don't how fast the legal system in China moves or even consider that a serious lame. Obviously it's a series amount of money champ. That money even believe you were balling. It's hard to tell because we're not. We're ball I still find it like what is this guy do for a living one could justify running over time I now. I know there's going to be the guy who goes. Well Patrick. That's over time. I'll tell you what you buy box even by Luke box obsession Ashen on over watching what I was addicted to that before a blizzard done. Goof I close that much. I spent maybe be a thousand bucks. Total in Luke boxes on overwatch problem fathom spending of Joe on academy are millions billions. That's the huge pockets to buy on polk. Amman go guys so I don't know how I could ever justify spending ten. Yeah I can't even just them spend I'm not much so that's that's very multifaceted question because not only what does he do to make money but what does he do that. This is the priority to spend that. Yeah she loves his game. Just you don't have shirt is. This is a gag. All right I I almost feel like it's just one of those games. You Clinton Guy Auto attacks like I don't know there's a huge in in China. I know they're huge in Korea. which by the way coming up later on Komo master will be joining US anyways? I don't this is crazy. How if you WANNA win? I guess what I mean. I think it's one of those things like what I was going up if people would play. GTA and it would just cheat off the bat. You got no real accomplishment of playing the actual game but you were a big man and cheated game. That's all I always thought I feel like it must have just been big buffs and whatnot. It's character building. Whatever the case may be it would be like metal gear survive and it would be an extra say slot but other than that? It must have been something to build a character pretty. They say I'm trying to Gogol justice online but I just get that girl's clothing stores. I don't think that's what it hit. The snow is it's not unfortunately alone. Ar Just online game would be pretty good poke Ahmad Company is going after four channel discord users for a leak in the Po- commands demands that before the game came out now. This is one of those things that's on company. I don't know of Intendo is involved in it at all. The company for sure is at the helm of this. This doesn't seem like it up. And it's one of the century as you could argue that just because something's become standardized. You shouldn't stand up for just because especially with Ron in writing but aren't spoilers kind of almost so standardized now that it seems moot to try to just sue random users for leaking and less you'd I think that the person is say that the four Chan or discord user is from the company and they are breaking is your exposure. Yeah and less. That's what they're going after but it just seems like they're just trying to grab whatever press lawsuits against people from what appeared. They didn't state up front. That we are searching because we believe you know when gearbox goons to that guy's door ed pages desert research maybe realize that guy doesn't know anyone knows as far as we know and also himself gearbox so it's not what they thought it was because that's what they claim anybody said there's enough for those who know quick background but before immortalized three came out. There's obviously a lot of controversies but one of them is that very popular content creator trader. That love has a push borderlands. Have goons come up to his door and all it really was blizzard. Any excuse me there too but gearbox didn't realized that one of their streams accidentally split something the guy reported on it like a good content creator or journalists does and just jump the gun and it was like he must have an inside source and said a couple of goons has to intimidate him to try to spill the beans on something that there was nothing to spill so for it. So that now that you guys are on that not that that justifies it but if that was at least pokemon companies like whole things we think that there's somebody internally makings or we're we're looking at the Ford Transit district where leaks came from and we're trying to sort this. Maybe but it's all just coming off as I'm bed this this game that came out and still gang buster numbers. You guys still be a bad before it came up on a standing up for this like it just seems like spoiler apart from the chorus even tons of major movies and everything that come out like thing now did you should like it or whatever everybody leads are just kind of the dark side of the industry. That's just the thing. Yeh stay away from them. People shouldn't leak especially if you're involved in the company. The Dow is really hard to make this cool product but it just seems so. I don't know interesting odd so this is something that I stuff that came out before the game. Okay Yeah. They're going after people who are digging through code or data mining and the man. That happens like so so much findings in general this is also why devs should always put all the content on the stand. It makes it easier just patch character or something but you will get. It's it's so yeah you face as a developer you will happen. You put the code in there some racket. That's that's why an arrest will usually try to have kind of like a joke file l.. Names yes 'cause around injustice to one of the DLC files Had A name for shaggy. So so you're going to be in an injustice shaggy it was it was something cartoon relating to obviously throw people off. Yeah that's so Ed Ed Boon to do that to be a big liar. That is just by the end boone with them but I would like the money that'd be basically and other things that reminded me of was also when persona five came out ever atlas in inactivated or they announced that Because the way persona games usually work is at a certain point. Usually there's that big like oh snaps moments when you're like oh things have just exploded or the story has changed so drastically that they specifically stated stated that while they encourage people to stream the game after a specific date. They will probably I think they we're going to issue a copyright claim if you were streaming or posting any content that took place in the game after a certain point of time in there. I don't know oh how many people might have down here if they did that. But I thought that was kind of interesting you bat algorithm would just do that anyways rate but that's a whole separate issue. Yeah but that's kind of what that made me think of but I mean at least that's not putting dunes in your door. Something it scared. Well that's the thing you know. The borderlands geographic out. His name Party. I said enough times in an episode but I mean he did for and it's what's even scarier all his like his channel and everything his twitter. I believe the twitter. He voluntarily took down his just disappeared like a week after insane. Like those really heard from him. As far as I know I do follow up on it like weeks after that but at the time like all this stuff started disappearing from the web you know. And then he did openly state that like he was freaked out about the goons appearance door. You know he said it's very large intimidating dudes pop up at at your door wanting to ask you a couple of questions anyone I think would unless you're just an absolute edge. Lord would I'd like just freak out about like that's that's bullet isn't terrifying. Is that in two thousand twenty one battle born forever so gearbox first of all Randy Pitchford. What a legend He didn't have anything to do with this. Because ever since the David addicts thing he's really just disappeared off the a face of the earth like I think finally someone gearbox was like you may be the boss show the healthcare basically first of aw for those of you who told you remember about aboard. It was a game that came out at the same time over wash. I believe it started production even earlier than overwatch but was so similar alert. People couldn't help but call it just overwatch copycat or not as good of a version as the very popular Moba. Yeah The funny thing is it's it's it's suffered at launch because overwatch then it started to go free to play in which Randy pitchford would say stuff like. Oh no no no no no. It's like a free trial title that you can like. It was free to play like He. He said it was like nonsense new. That's not free to play because I it was just like all these unfounded rumors. These so-called journalists that are reporting is free to play crap. Stop Battle Board is not going to play. Then the announced announced going free to play and he goes well. But it's not free to play. It's it's free to to like start. which is a free to play most models free to start so it's already did that but anyways they finally announced recently that first of all I believe as a the announcement digital sales of the game were halted immediately and the servers will only be online until two thousand twenty one so you have until then ad for the two of you still playing it enjoy because it's going away and that's ban that's funny I think the thing with me and battle alborn? Is that the character design. Just didn't do it for me. A lot of appeal of overwatch is the character designs. You know the the narratives are it flimsy because the game focuses more on its gameplay than they give you a little snippets of a story but there was never like a really huge elaboration of what the hell's going on. Yeah but the character designs have always been really appealing like the Pixar quality animation. And all that stuff the the different different personalities and everything like that's always been the thing that drooping over lunch more. I saw the Albuquerque. Don't you don't even talking about how some of the ways they play. animations agents were a little too similar sometimes especially Paladins another one. That was still doing great. I Dunno overwatch but in the free play circuit. I think that's what killed Alborn as they were too late. The random one side of the goal post and then got beat there. Then we're like well. I guess I'm going to try the other side of the Paladins and already gotten insecure. They're following so anyways. But you're going to say before I just ranting about the character. Yeah I think it had a number of bad things about it I think what they were also trying to do is do that whole capture lightning bottle but like twice. Yeah 'cause they did it with borderlands yes one and two and then it felt like they were trying to just make another borderlands game because I remember watching some of the I think it had a story or had some type of campaign no recall but probably yeah and under watching it and I was just thinking like this just sounds on slide recycled borderlands material. It doesn't help that the characters are Kinda like maybe there's one or two that kind of pop about otherwise. Everybody else's remembers the mushroom in whatever their name was it wasn't like tall skinny and I got over mushroom had ever. At least I big beefy guys with a gun yell other than that. Everyone was just so genera and been mushroom. Headman wasn't really the most unique because I remember his name But I at least call him. You know like the cover up in center and then I don't know if he was supposed to be the mascot all I know is at least we call him but that's one out of out of remember characters gassing generic It had a lot of things working against it not to mention. Oh seen the game play just looks so noisy does look a lot because again. I think you're right. There were kind of drew cues borderland you. The difference is borderlands borderlands benefits from the chaos whereas a game like a more strategic game of like battle born the noise distraction was a lot more detrimental than it was helpful. So yeah allergy born. I try to look This game but the mushroom. Don't worry scare Marfan existed. Don't worry about year no one will know. Yeah I think Jim Sterling put an interesting where he said that is that where we're at one point. He thought battle born would go down in history as that game that it wasn't overwatch. We'll just go down in history at all now because such a short-lived lifespan plus because overwatch crushing it. It's just crazy for those who put their job a lot about big hater. I'm not a fan of still but one and I'm not gonNA just because it's it's funeral I'm GonNa give give it a nicer eulogy but what I will say is for those who did put their blood sweat and tears into producing a game. It really is a shame to see something that what you saw what it would have been if it succeeded in overwatch. That's just that much more depressing to wash your version and if production on it as as I recall correctly did start prior to overwatch. Technically if that is the case that's even more crushing the fact that that was your idea. Probably wait or Powell started first but anyways the whole thing is to have you competitor just annihilate you like that just so I do feel bad for the deaths. We talked about this before. Were crappy companies like activision. Blizzard may make these bad calls. Maybe shouldn't call for everyone to get their heads. Chopped talk because they are just doing their jobs and say when are we going to find Batta born like the dollar bins. I don't I should have the right to sell it Eddie. More Muslims discontinued service. I think that you know what though this is Kinda weird. I don't think it would but a who say kinda funny just to I would like to find a copy for dirt cheap just to kind of be like Lucas's yellow this rally. I would say like possibly absolutely get them now because what if that too weird collector's item number. Doesn't that sometimes they do. Yeah I like the fallout seventy-six helmets. That have definitely mounted molds. That aren't the right but those actually may become real collectors. I am so you're right. There's one battle born guy character. His name is Oscar. Might Husk with bikes. 'cause you Oscar Mike Mike. I want to know his his story. Do you not remember Mike. We'll never know now. 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It's been very hectic I can tell you that for sure our I've been out of school for the past two weeks due to the shooting and also Thanksgiving break and we're starting school up again this week. So it's been sorta hectic I guess you'd say with my life absolute yeah. I'm just trying to take things at a time when it comes to. That's good I still forget. Sometimes that you know and I took this into consideration when we first A reverse reached out to you get. Your book is the fact that you're still in school having to get up early and all that fun stuff. I certainly don't Miss So I definitely wanted to consideration. Which is why? I'm glad that the time zone difference Kinda gave us a little bit of a buffers. What eight eight over there? I think I accept that this is totally live at eleven. Am Central Standard Time on Monday class to be here. This is obviously everyone knows spirit. But for those who don't obviously that's good to hear though. When do you graduate? Are you that suit. uh-huh and aggravating. Bring there you go so it's not too far What do you have any post post plans? Are you gonNA basically just take a break for a while. Are you going to hop right into the old caller jer I guess depends on where you're at the time. Yeah I guess it just depends Penn but the main thing is obviously regardless of how my coon near goes Colleges and the thing that I plan on pursuing just because they find education education to be a really important aspect of my life so like even when I was a career I was constantly studying even with like my busy schedule so I think like regardless of where this all takes me. Education is still one of my main priority. I think that's honestly one of the things that really like when I see obviously I see it through a looking glass so a lot of the stuff. I see idols. Obviously from the reality shows and everything one thing I think is so interesting about that is how many of them are especially when they started such a young age like you did. Our are balancing school personal life and the idol life which is nothing she can stick out for sure the type of training you guys go through them. So did you ever want totally totally. So it's nice though that there's so much emphasis still put on education. You know I think a lot of celebrities here in the states right to do you. Not to generalize all of its more often in America that people cut and run you know once they hit it big almost always drop out of school which is a as crazy to me at least and I was raised on education being important. It's nice to hear that you still do perceive that regardless of the direction your career takes from here so that's really really cool. I think it really just depends on the person leather whether they are interested in education. Because I know a lot of like idols to WHO Don't really focus on school as much as they focus on like extinguishing dancing or acting things like that because they find that to be their main priority and obviously a lot of people have different paths that they wanna take in for me me. It's always been like I led this like I love performing and whatnot but I always wanted to have like a backup plan just in case and I also found education to be like a fun part I would say I know some kind of lame but I love learning new things every single day and I think honestly just depends. Sounds like I know that. A lot of entertainers typically tend to just focus on Like their career at the time. But I'm the type of person that sort of likes to look ahead the what I'd want to like ten or twenty years from now absolutely absolutely so that being said. was there any a time when you were kind of juggling all that and you. Were you know getting ready to debut and whatnot. was there a point where you almost almost did feel overwhelmed to the point where you were kind of debating if I had to choose between idol and kind of just focusing on school entirely so you Kinda came to that crossroads or you already so far. Yeah definitely When I when we first I were about to debut and like promoting at the time Out there really able to focus on schoolwork and whatnot just because you're spending a lot of late nights A lot of time just focusing on getting ready Like recording you know focusing on the choreography and whatnot and then right after that we had all of our promotions which also led to like late night so I really slacked off at the time and I ended up having to get like extensions from my teacher in order to like turn everything on time so it was really overwhelming. But I think in the end like with that extension was able to get everything done. Luckily yeah I think that there's definitely a lot of points in my life where I was like contemplating what exactly I wanted to do with my future and I think in the end like if you Hollowell like you you find a way somehow not definitely definitely when you first got contacted back after auditioning auditioning did you. Did you have that moment where you weren't sure if it was even legit or or did you kind of know right away like did you get that call. And you're like Is this even for retailers. If someone just is a scam or because I know some some some idols have had that happen where they get a call and they're not even sure to believe it or not. Well when I I was casted to Taw dish in for Plata's and when I was first cast it it was wall I was at the survival program audition it was capable started. They held in La several years ago and this woman came up to my mom mom and she asked her if she could meet her in the bathroom to talk about some things so my mom was like the Sound Incredibly Shady Badger to go for it so she likes snuck off to the bathroom she met with the lady and the lady gave her the business card and from there. A few days later My mom and I ended up going going down to this hotel to do the addition and the entire time. You're thinking Oh my God associated but like I was eight years old at the time so I didn't really understand what is going on so I just went in. I did my thing and then like a week later. I think you around the they called. They're like Oh yeah we really really want you at at the time. I guess I was thinking about like different companies to just because like once you sign a contract you're with them until you debut and like after them it's like seven years so I was like okay. I really need to think about this. I mean it was obviously more or less my parents thinking about it rather than me just because I was so young and You know in the end they just they came to my house. They're like okay. We signed you up for dance lessons. Really want you a part of our team so you can just think about it. I and then like by next summer. You can decide whether you want to actually looking not basically what we did and The whole process is sort of like like looking back on it. It was pretty shady but I think it was a good opportunity and I took a chance and it worked out and I think that matters absolutely absolutely I think first of all real quick I forget when it came to getting extensions where the teachers aware your of why or did you just generally ask for an extension. Oh I explained it to them and I think that most of the new because it was when online course because I was home schooled using and American based program and I had a main teacher who handled basically everything and then I had Several teachers who taught like a specific course and I had to like email each one individually asking for like an extension for certain things. uh-huh I definitely had to explain why I need it but luckily they were nice enough to give me like a month extension at all. I got it all done. But it's kind kinda funny seeing people's reactions like I think that they sort of know my situation beforehand but it's always fun to see them do like what seriously absolutely. That's just one of those things where I'm sure you still have moments where you know. Now that you're you're Gov- that at least for now that it doesn't ever sometimes seemed like there was all kind of like a dream because it all. I'm sure a lot was going crazy. I definitely there's still like sometimes when I look back in and I'm like Oh wait actually. Sometimes it just feels like exterior dream. I guess you could say like why actually actually did that. You know and looking back. It's like okay if I was able to accomplish that then this problem that I have for me really isn't anything and that sort of helps me so she nowadays. When it comes to overcoming certain obstacles but yeah it was an incredibly interesting experience and I definitely thing not everyone gets to go through a lifetime really grateful for that whether it was good or bad I think I definitely grew from everything that yeah absolutely? That's yeah that's really cool. I can only imagine because me. I've had me compared to experience. You've had miniscule things happen to be where I I still watch. Footage backing goes. That did happen for them. It's just one of those things where sometimes it's stuff that can happen. You just seems so. Surreal L. but it's really cool to that it happened. I really do appreciate that with all that went down. Especially when you all disbanded. How kind of positive yours throughout that light I think one of the things that bothers me the most is people on social media are always looking you know? They're always safe on the other side of that computer screen screen. They tend to say stuff. That's very insensitive or whatever or they want to like have everyone quote spill the tea or get very toxic. According to a lot of people have done that especially teeny like a lot of people have reached out to me or blamed me for certain things because I did go on hiatus for a long time as a lot of people know and because of that You know a lot of people have put the blame on these saying that. I'm the reason why I like. Our group disbanded. Obviously a lot of things have happened behind the scenes that you know it'd be difficult to share of which we don't want you to be a COUPLA on for sure but yeah and I saw that you know and you know obviously I'm a big big fan of Princeton although you know weekend more so came across this crossover because you're kind of going now. The whole Youtube content creator phase. We have a little bit more crossover. In terms of something I could relate with because aside dancing from the locate pup nights at the club. I'm not necessarily any idol experience at all but it's it's nice. It's interesting to come close to us through this experience and everything terms like that and But Not really did bother me when I'd see that because obviously I kept track of the group and everything and You being a big part of that group My my roommate. I barely by the way you were her bias. She just wanted me to tell you. Thank you so when we're always really bothered with how social media kind of went through that. It just makes so many assumptions. They just just jump to conclusions about anything that happens. You know whether it's the recent unfortunate suicides or anything like that they don't have any Chil- in terms of like stepping back in being like the people who this affected like. Let's consider maybe some facts verse before popping off the mouth. How's it going crazy with that stuff Now a lot of people are sort of considerate when it comes to these things like obviously there are a lot of situations are difficult to explain like physically. It's just an like mentally. It's just so difficult to explain. And then people who aren't directly directly affected by it complaining about that and then causing all of these rumors and spreading is saying. Oh I heard I heard that was really just. Oh Oh assumption. So I think like in the end people need to learn to just sit back and listen rather than I guess spreading false rumors. Awesome insensitively explaining things just because like you know especially when it comes to capable. I know that a lot of things. Are they finished unless lately really I guess if we're being quite honest and you know instead of listening and waiting for the people who are directly affected to speak out about it. They start. Rumors reminds reading things which which I find very frustrating innocent like less. You hear what actually happens. You can't ah you know or say like Oh this definitely happened like there's so many things that happen behind the scenes especially indicate pop industry that AH people don't know about and Instead of assuming I guess you could just either way or respect the fact that they don't want to share these things you know just because they they are incredibly sensitive topics regardless of what it is so you know that. Just that pertains to like everything in general I think absolutely and that's the thing that's what bothered me. The most is just like I had to speak up about it myself in terms of light out into the social media void where I was just like think about it the girls. They're already going through this themselves. They're already having to go. Through the fact that the dismantling ban it was announced you know who knows what led up to it so on and so forth fort like you said googlers so much go behind the scenes that there really is a lot to consider that because you have all sorts of people who were going going like and and we're going to go to that red zone but everyone is pointing fingers. You know you pled as a you know who's to say what but Regardless of how it went down everyone just ever needed a scapegoat so quickly. Like within minutes of the official everyone was just spouting conspiracy spiracy theories ever Charlie Day the board me with all know each other and strengthen everyone is is on now that deal already where it's just like you said. I think he put it really well right now when you said maybe sit back and then you know maybe talk amongst yourselves if you now now because obviously you may have all these things where you're wondering if you WanNa talk to your friends or whatever but let the people who are actually involved able to digest it real quick you know considering considering what's going on and then speak up about it you know so yeah. It's it was definitely rock for us at the time and no things were things rocky because it was something that we put so much time and some effort into and then obviously we never wanted to disband. That's not doc something that you work you know several years for just to you know not doing it not being able to continue and ultimately though I think that we all came to a similar conclusion where it was best for us to go our separate ways. Obviously things things were sat at first we thought about it. We sat in a circle. Re talked about it the talked about like suture plans things that we wanted to pursue you know. Obviously we still keeping contact with each other and We just re reminiscing on all of the good times in the nobody talks through. Do what exactly what was happening. And I think we all sort of knew that this is where I was reading to all. We were in denial for a very very long time. I think like they came to the conclusion. Were it was best for everyone. And we're all just focusing. We all just decided addict to focus on the positives rather than the negatives and while it's absolutely terrible what happened and I know that no ms able to predict it I think that we all just decided like instead of focusing on all the battles just focus on the good. Let's focus on future focus on working hard so that would be present better products to the people that still love us and still follow us. And I think that's just the main focus so like the reason why we just spend it doesn't matter it's more. Let's just focus on what we're going to doing now with our lives. Just focus on supporting our in our separate journeys and serving that sort of message that I wanted to convey to people because they know that a lot of people wanted an actual explanation about what happened. They wanted me to spill the like go deep into it but now these things are really their personnel to all of us and we. I didn't really want to go into deep instead. We wanted to just focus on what's going to happen rather than what did happen just because we thought that was what's best. Aw I absolutely agree and to be quite frank. I think that you know unless it's going to undo everything I think like you said why not just focus on you. Remember that it was great while it lasted Especially is have great memories and we we we still have that music can always enjoy but more importantly you all are still there. You all are going anywhere you know. And it's nice to see like your social media and everything and can you show interest in Youtube and everything that everyone's you know all your supporters have been there you know through thick and thin and let the haters hate but I'm it's been really nice. Is that just you get through all of that because you did take a lot of undeserved flat because I think that any of the true fans honestly knew that you wanted to continue to do that as much as everybody else you know so like you said. It's not important you know it's just is crazy you know you see all of those tabloid articles even if you announce that you're going to do like a Qa or anything like even one like this you know you're going to it may just lead to click bake titles of like. Oh She's going to tell all about whatever and and like you said a lot of that stuff personal and there's some of that stuff that people just shouldn't so it's is just one of those things where I'm glad you did convey that message because I think that that's really what people need to focus on you know You can't really comforted a lot of people. I know that a lot of people still were upset at me for sort of I guess quote unquote dodging the question. But that's really what I wanted to smoke on. I wanted to focus on the positive. I wanted all to just move on from it like we had a great time while it lost it and unfortunately you know like we can't turn back time what happened happened and now we just wanted to focus on doing better and showing our fans like the real us and you know being able to pursue things that the necessarily weren't able able to pursue before so. I think that that's been great and I love how much everyone has sort of grown during this time like I've seen all of them just mature so much and be able to pursue the things that they wants weren't able to pursue and I find that to be incredibly rewarding and while it was sort of terrible what happened like seeing how much happier people are now like. I think that awful it makes me happy. Good yes absolutely and sometimes you know that's that's not sometimes that is always the most important thing at the end of the day so I am really. I'm really glad to hear that. So yeah he meets his even when what was the name of the the new group is that he is he saying I cannot be okay so when they debuted it was nice to see you. You know right there with them. Cheering them on on and be able to stand them and whatnot because they are your sisters still and it's nice to hear that you are still keeping touching everything. I think that that is is just as fans that is one of the things that we really are. Happy to hear about is that you all are still good that at the end of the day regardless of what happened the fact galler still tight as what makes everyone really happy in the end so yeah definitely if okay so turning lighters because that got you know that was necessary but deep You were neither on running man or no brothers right now at a yeah. We weren't on there if you could have been on either. Do you have a favorite between the two you that you would have loved. This doesn't knowing runners his running war but either of them. kind of your your show. You would really love to have been on a love both shows but I think like I have watched reading interests along along loose like my family. So that SORTA like a family thing that we did especially when I was younger and I think like it would've been really really fun to have gone on there and just you know gone through every single challenge. Just see how well I could do when it comes to the sensitive situation so if I had to choose between the two at poly that one I see whose name tacky could rip off and all that good stuff always always looks so oh high stress but so fun whenever they do this actions. It's really really. Yeah but now that's cool. That's awesome. I really would have loved to see I like. I like my dream goal that every we grew by Stan should be on there. So that's how it should be glad you really like that Do you have any cool stories. In terms of interacting happening with senior group that light was a dream. Come true for you. Is there any groups you rub. You touched elbows with you. It was just like shocking and all of us unbelievable so a lot of our new groups obviously just because like during promotions during concerts and whatnot like we see each other. I think the one that really were all shocked by with the new performing. We like at the time Like we met tell me so. She was performing Russia and we were all just so in all of her and she's so nice like she come up to us and that she talked to And you know. I think that that was like really one of my favorite moments knows like being able to meet our senior idle awesome. Yeah I know for sure I've heard ever tons of stories of awesome. She is like I think. There's that story where I believe like Red Velvet I think was that I got a restaurant. She paid for their meal. Or whatever. Because you have to be the same that I believe it was red velvets. I apologize misspeaking. Trust me twitter will let me know. I said that wrong case but regardless she you know she. She bought simple for juniors meal just like. It's just cool that I think that's one thing that's that's interesting about. The great cultures in general is kind of like the respect for seniors and stuff like the really interesting interesting about the The culture and everything all right idle time. That was fun. Let's this for people who are wondering this gaming podcast. I know I know. So we're GONNA get into into it then I know you've been really busy. Has there been any games lately that you've been able to at least try to get some time in or been trying to get some time in. Oh I mean the main game that I play at the moment is it's my craft like I know that old game but it's like the one thing that I actually take time and play. I'm not good at it when I die every five seconds. If we're being honest but It's fun you know and I played like different mods with my friends while talking on this Gordon always been like a fun moment out of my league. I can't say for sure I know that When I see in your social media feeds is one of the main things people want you to publish in terms of your youtube? I know you have a lot of ideas and a lot of directions. You could go. Do you have a general idea yet. Still brewing what. You're kind of trying to focus the youtube channel on in general because I got still been I mean I haven't really been able to be active lately just because my life has been so hectic uh-huh everything that's been going on and I mean and still not quite sure which direction I want to take it in honestly like so many different things I wanted to just pursue and rather than having like a specific channel like Oh beauty or gaining or anything like that. I just WanNa piece a little bit of everything and bring it together into this one craziness honestly just the main thing that I wanted to do. When I first started Cuban? I think that well I'll probably like pursue. I just want to show people who I really am like. I know when I was in Korea. I was pretty introverted. I wasn't very talkative and and Like I was pretty shy. Like I was young Like I didn't really have that bright and bubbly affects all at the time and I just really want to show people that you know like I can be talkative and I can be in a bubbling. I can be all of these different types of characters and I just really wanted to express like my actual opinions and show people the me that I really am rather than having to just you know. Try so hard to please. Everyone I guess because I know I've been idle. There are art certain expectations that you have to hit and Like just at the time. I was very very focused on just getting things is right and having people likely because I know that a lot of people like I received a lot of hey just because of my appearance so I really wanted to make up for that brought by I guess being just nice everyone now and personality in them at that point in my life. I'm like I just WANNA do me like regardless of whether people like me are not I just want to show them the type of person that I really am and you can like they are. You cannot like me Absolutely and that that to me is the most important thing I think that a lot of people ever since YouTube Youtube became a lucrative business. People have kind of forgotten. The idea of youtube is self expression so I think that doing content that you want to do and then try to see who else likes it is more important than curated content to only you know for other people. You know you're doing you first and then you're like who else can vibe with me. And that's what's more important. He knows is is connecting with are more like minded or or. Are you what you want to into as opposed to forcing yourself to take a certain You know throw it all down a tiny funnel basically so. That's good to hear your uh-huh year. I think that if anyone is going to find a way to mishmash all that together. I'm sure you'll find a way to do it. Even if it's doing makeup tutorials wall playing minecraft Webcam here definitely excited to see that regardless regardless but yeah. It's good that you are even able to get some gaming in there regardless I'm sitting on. ABC or yeah. It's on Yeah I don't really do. I controller a PS four things. Like that. I haven't really been a very big fan on just because I don't know how to work a control of most of the time my brother. He plays a lot of games and I've seen him play games in a past and whatnot and I look at him in a like. Yeah I can do that. And what were some of your favorite games growing so you may not have had time lately but Obviously started the idol auditioning and in training when you were very young but any games kind and of inbetween I believe I read some of the Sims in the past. Maybe I was wrong but any place in for a while I totally forgot about that I think that there are certain games that I sort of constantly come back to you like I play a lot of games on my phone But like when I was younger I used to play like this Shayla was that it was. I think it was like call of duty bombies such as anything. It was like some sort of Zombie suiting game that I played a lot of kind of back at it but I think just in general like like I love simulation games so things that are like building or creating like that always excited me. I guess when it comes tall especially with Sims that pretty much covers a lot of that base in terms of making your own characters gotta stepping into the she's these people and whatnot and bigger the building and all that stuff but yeah. That's cool though that that's your type of thing is something that lets let's you express your creative outlet which obviously from everything you've done from from music to content creation and I'm sure even in school as always is trying to create new year thing so that's really cool. That'd be come together with what you're interested in tyler. Have you tried the. It's going to sound weird but have you tried the minecraft earth game on your phone. I haven't I haven't I heard I heard some mixed reviews with that. I don't try. I always stuck to because my nephew had download. And I don't know if you've ever played a game on on your phone it's really fun 'cause you can actually build with your friends like through a all morning so if you wanna give it a try I definitely would say just try it. I don't really Mike minecraft but I mean I play with my nephew I will give it a try definitely all right. Yes this other people in the room. I know I've just been. It's like it's like if this was televised it would be like a spotlight on her me a little of the Co host in the in the background. But there's been playing games good on that Josh and then you WanNa ask the same weekend. I'm like I suck at my grass like I don't know how to do it are there. I play with my friends and there is so much better than me that I stand around and like collect material. That's usually my job in my mind craft. That is me. I'm the I'm like. I'm not the one building like this huge massive skyscraper doing the red or or whatever like crazy contraptions he. It does all that I'm like building a house and honestly I think that people and I think it just comes with the territory being popular appeal her but some people dog on my crap but one thing I will say is I really appreciate when young people are super into. I'd rather they be into something like Mike. Pravin happen. Flex their creative mind than some of the other honestly. I'm not even an anti video game guy. You know the people who listen to podcast other lines without much streaming on everything living on here but I think that it is a cool outlet for people and I really am glad that the game has been as popular as it has been so. Apparently it's going surgeons some popular dive down bed now. It's getting popular really cool to see all the gain popularity again. I think a lot of people love watching Like Youtube game. Klay Loyd minecraft I know that pupae has done a few among and that sort of made minecraft popularity sort of skyrocket it again Yeah I think like it's it's sort of been a constant and a lot of people's lives and you know I played my across when when I was younger and then I stopped playing for a long time and then I got it again just a few months ago and it was interesting. You know unless you changed I guess you could say absolutely I remember when I first started playing then added the jungle and they're they're like those Like those cats. Oh my God this is so cool and now you look at it. You're like wow. There's just so much more to it now. Forces and God knows online and I think they just recently added a new bio. I don't remember the exact thing but it's crazy and then that's that's not even touching on mods. PC's so it's insane that's a whole nother monster of like stuff that people that's the thing aim at Pc Monte community there's a reason that pc gaming is arguably seen as the more objectively best platform is because some of these monitoring monitors in the modern communities are Razi like straight up like fixing broken games to like modifying stuffy. Y You know Mike even even more fun doing Bethesda shop for them basically. Yeah so there's that so. Microsoft obviously has a really cool soundtrack a very peaceful serene on. That's that's perfect for playing a game. Do you have a from when you were playing a few games that you had time to growing up. have any soundtracks that really stuck with you that the music music really stood out to you. When you're playing it honestly? I got so focused on the game that I wasn't too so can onto musics or sometimes sometimes I'll just like the game music then play my own music and time to so much. That's actually a defense mechanism. When I'm being big coward word and I play a game like the monsters scary whenever you know if like Pentagon all these in the background and and it's not just like one of those things but now that's understandable especially depending on the type of game you're playing some games really do do have a soundtrack or background literally meant to be kind of like throwing muses like no disrespect to the Sims music writer but a lot of it doesn't you're hearing it for people like me? I've dumped hundreds of hours in a sense the base music's a little out of the few hundred dollars. I think really the only song that plays during the loading screen video. I hear like that I and everything else Do you watch a lot of youtube or you. More of a show a net flicks twits streaming services type of person. I'm I'm sort of a mix of both. It depends on my mood. I mean like I Binge Watch a lot of TV shows movies. He's and I guess I guess I am more of like a streaming type of person rather than youtube just because it depends on like the videos and the content and you know I guess. Just how appealing to me but I guess. TV shows are pity constantly. You have plotline. It's constantly being updated is not you know already all there and Like when I have time typically just like to watch it all until I don't like watching. TV shows that Dr like weekly coming watching TV shows that are already done right patient for sure it honestly honestly just makes me remember the time when you either had to put aside a time of the day to watch a show or you have to Dvr at just the end. Thank goodness restraining with that. Being the case then a relevant question of both is there a particular A John Deere kind of on right. Now and then be occurred occurred assessment at the moment he to channel like a few to consistently watch over the past few years years I guess it just depends like I guess one of the main people that I watch is she's this nail nail artists. Well kind of her. Name's Christine Aka simply neurological. I've watched a lot of the videos just because I was super into now. Are you years ago. I've done a lot of my own nail nail art designs and I just love watching your videos and seeing her slowly he ball from no like total nail artist to branching out and trying different things and Like she was fine the way to keep city entertaining. So that's one of the people that I definitely have consistently washed on. I love Buzzfeed unsal of like scary like we the people who go into like paranormal places. We're talking about like crying and whatnot. And they sort of hit that criteria had on so So that's one of the people that I really enjoy watching I guess it just depends and I know that a lot of like youtubers who were famous no longer are active and I really keep up with the people who are like famous. Now I guess you could say just because they're trendy and interesting and whatnot and like they'd like to do paying through like I'm I'm I'm just not I guess they could say that's that's that's called the good person it's good to hear that I'm honestly sometimes. It just seems like such cheap low quality content at times. Well the biggest wrong is a lot of that stuff is also super script. Yeah people the Bangalore those channels that try to make us candidate in the big problem with that is it's gotten susceptible usually younger people and a lot of trouble imitating those channels that are obviously safe and fake and get themselves into some dicey situations because because they copy someone like that so. I'm glad you run into that. That's good news Shows or a recent movie that you checked out lately that you really served Shows I will always love Like the office a good place Brooklyn nine nine Basically like Sitcom I love the COMMS. I've always loved brand Things like that movies lies. I haven't really really had the time to let go to a theater and watch a movie. I love horror movies ever saw. I love how like intricately McKinley planned it was. I've watched all seven movies like within like less than a week. I think like I just finished. Watch it and didn't sleep at all. I hope that when you were younger to Not Not so. I watched on gentler over but not that one. I watched that one because when I first came on hiatus when I was in when I came back then I was basically just resting less time because of my concussion and my doctor said like Oh. You can't do anything too strenuous so I just spent most of my my time like indoors resting and That was the time right. I washed a lot of movie even hundred. TV shows a solid one on and just been like my favorite on movie. Since then I just love how alike perfectly planned. It was and I don't like a lot of paranormal type movies just because it seems a unrealistic and be like I don't know that freaks me out a bit more something that could be possibly realistic which we're The I don't love paranormal tightening over like crying movies. I guess solid one of the movie spot or they stuck with me and I watched like every single one including jigsaw which is which is really good. Good one with saw. Sometimes you have to binge watch them because because like yeah part five was one of those weird ones where they like reference plot points that you it kind of just forget about in the third and fourth so I would watch it all at once for it all to make sense so everything everything is connected and they all happened around the same time point and then if you watch it all at once and you're like Oh my God all makes sense now but if you were to watch it at like certain times apart then you'd be like what released. Oh yes apart from this yeah. They came out annually for a while so every time one was coming we now. It's like okay. Well I got a marathon. Yes Yeah I forget which one it was but I I saw one. I hadn't watched the previous ones for so long. I was just like acquaint what it. What are they referencing? Jan Jigsaw was really good. I never saw jigsaw. So check that out now interesting yeah. I don't know if you've seen it on instagram. But they dressed their little children of as like main characters from Horror films to find it but the cutest little jigsaw kid. He's like riding a tricycle and he has his bagel smile on his face. And I just love to send it to you because it's just so adorable. I'll have to find instagram page. WHO's I mean? They have one of like a it it they have one trick or treat Mike on it. It's just like a bunch of little kids like like yes. This is my whole life right now. that and then the next thing was stilted I know I have the run. I don't know why said okay so what I was GONNA say. I contacted me when you did that. That's when I realized that I I is that I said Yeah Department residencies. I said no anyways. Favourite place you've got travel to you whether it's in the states or overseas and then what other what is like your dream place to go to you haven't been able to visit yet okay. So the one place that I loved visiting was Japan. We went there twice. The first time was to do our jacket album photo shoot and That was that was really really fun like we stayed at this. I guess it was like a Japanese version of like Amsterdam stayed there around and we did a few photo shoots and then like we traveled to different parts of Japan Just like taking pictures and videos and whatnot and then experiences France is great and then we came back for cake on Japan shortly after so I think like Japan was one of the favorite places I visited good and then a place that I wanNA visit like. I haven't gone to Europe yet so I'd love to travel like just go to Europe and then just travel to she just country since it's all sort of connected Yeah that's I have so many places that I want to travel to the future and I just the able to come off. That'd be great and honestly that would also make for some really. You don't want to always tie your life to creating creating content but at the same time it would be really cool to capture all that and share it and everything especially so. Yeah that is really really cool though. Def definitely the only thing the European any been any you're being countries. I went to Japan for like layover solely visited like whatever the the airport and still need to go to Korea. So there's that but it's really cool to to hear anywhere local that an annual things in the nearby area that you do like doing every year only done anything annually typically for like my birthday take my family and I will travel some place in California that we haven't gone to like last year we went to Palm Springs. It was a great place for me to take a lot of pictures pictures. 'cause I love photography so I was able to get really cool pictures when I went there last year and Like the year before before I don't I don't remember if any place there before but we did go to San Francisco which is great. I would love to live there some day. Yeah Yeah but before I moved out to Korea. We traveled like every year like one year. We went to this really pretty light the house. We went to Monterey Bay Yeah I think there's been to get on citizen into some of the safest throughout like just California itself and we traveled to different states a lot like when I was born. I was born in Indiana and I still have family out out there to revisit neighboring states and whatnot We went down just water few times because my uncle used to live there. And I think like that I've have traveled most places but they're still quite a few states that I haven't been able to go to that. Have you ever been to the humid held at a Texas. I I haven't yet but Recently family sons the there and They told us to come visit. You just haven't women had the time yet. The I heard that it's really pretty areas for sure. Yeah this is humid but have than we have humid it really all right then so guys we know we know we know mailbag you guys wanted to asked a few questions so I went through the thing and if Kyle Kyle you got some time real quick for a few questions from the people that them in okay. We're good we got the approval of all right cool blues clues mealtime Song Right there. That's right so I should I should. I should put the Blues Clues Mail. A letter doesn't hit live. Copyright streaming twenty seconds questions. They're going to be also social media. Email disappeared on gets user. Feels wanted to know. Do you have any particular stories. He's from variety. Shows that person and you promoted on that we didn't cover yet is there anything Any type of remember whether it was on weekly idol. Or whatever where you remember the kind of funny that maybe not a bit on the episode happened Quite Shavuot and not quite sure about nothing episode. But Lemme went on Weekly idol that was crazy episode. A lot was happening. That time I remember us doing that whole Like sort of flutters called like you know all them dances that we did at the time. And my favorite moment was when it was playing one of new song and on members hung and she just like she ran up and she dancing and I love that part so much just because when we were in like in the practice room allow the times like we need stretcher just like play around like we play a lot of like our Elders groups song unlike our senior groups songs and like dance along and whatnot and That was one of those one of the songs that she and like Nova do a lot. They turn it on and then they do the dance that they do it. And like this over exaggerated manner that made it just hilarious watching and it really. They just like it brought up like our energy and Released a little attention especially in the room because no a lot was going on that day. You know We just we wanted to make it feel like a very comfortable environment and when she got up there and did that I immediately felt things like the tension should being released as whole like dance. Play type of things like that was that was one of the most iconic moments while we you're on variety shows. I don't think too many variety shows for sure but I was definitely fun. He was a good one With user disabuse star wanted to know if you obviously you're in prison but did you work with the Iowa girls much and how how is that experience Well all of the number like we've met them quite a few times but uh on like working together wise we mainly just worked too and it was all came together in like are separate groups But I don't remember them coming to one of our close concerts and performing. That was that was a lot of fun. And we finally got to see our numbers like Cherry going and Nile again so so it was sort of Nice to be leader night. It was fun because we didn't get to see them very often. Never living in the dorm and they're so busy performing and it was just. It was really nice because while we're doing the plot is girl concert like it wasn't all ten UVA oftentimes just like eight us us or like six of us because if you were injured and whatnot and those really heart heartfelt moment just being able to be there altogether even we were able to do a lot of performances together. Yeah for sure so yeah no. It's really cool to hear that. The president girls are so supportive because like like when I y launched a lot of the groups. You Know Psa you would think that. Oh this like something for now that you know. Maybe they're jealous salty. But it's nice to see that is just like all this love for supporting the representatives that were in this leg. You know this big deal of a group. Basically that I was watching. I don't think you quite how huge they were going to become. So that's really really cool And when it was just yeah yeah it was Kinda sad not being able to see them as much. We were definitely supportive of them as much as we could all cried once. They got announced that they a part of Iowa and whatnot thing that they're shows there's always been a lot of love with this group and known each other's and snooze degree young so I think thank like just all in all we have this really really strong bond together absolutely. Yeah I know I know it's really hard to just go right back into it. I'm leaving this part in the fact that this is a little bit little surgeries. I know wind in matters making me laugh. Just watching her making me laugh in the background on his part. But there's that this user Ellie wanted to the no. Is there a game that you've ever been disappointed about or one. You've seen recently the Jakarta Height Floor Nanto playmate you saw commercial or game play a gave that kind of like the check that out. Disappointed wise Yes or no Jaguars really disappointed by that whole wonderman game. That was really popular at the time. I don't know why ooh popular. Yeah Recently excited about. I honestly don't really keep up with games as much as I'd like to just because like there are time. I'm just watching things like I have friends who play Games recommended to me like started valley south. I've heard yeah that was really good I'd really like to sort of try. Something different them then. What unlike used to do you have recommendations because like I really don't like look at things outside of what I'm used to and I don't play games just because I don't have as much time nor do I have people who are telling me like? Oh he should play this or like people to play with. I guess you'd Kosei absolutely so what they will say is. If you do need any suggestions I can always. I'll definitely hit you up if I ever think of one you you know later on but in terms of recent ray of ones I think you should check out. I'm trying to think because you're on you're on the spectrum. I also do play on but there are so many games they kind of have all moved around a game I would like I think you should try just because it's one where people either really grow akin to liking it or they've just find it so weird is any of the Games. Those are recently out on on steam. PC's so that is probably a series. I would love the thing about that. Because it's so blackie and crazy and it does a good job of mixing like a really serious serious narrative obviously based on the title Yuccas. Ain't you can imagine what it's probably about is the and although they have such a serious crime thriller main narrative they have all these really silly side quests and stuff like that like they'll have one where it's like. Oh this guy stole this girl's Panties and he's wearing on his head or you're just doing something really ridiculous but then he goes back. Would you continue in the main story. It's all like you know we're going to have to kill three of our own because he's all fake US scenarios. I'm not spoiling the game. Don't worry but I'm just trying to give an idea of kind of where it's bouncing back and forth between serious and and silly. I think that might be a series that you might be into you. Guys have any peace checking out any suggestions suggestions. We've all been playing switch lately by the way I think I think with hectic lives if you were going to pick up the consul and try to get into the switch would definitely it would be be wanted to pick up just because even I as like my medium is playing reviewing first impressions videos of of Video Games. Sunday sometimes find myself not having enough time always on the go. So the switch being a console Rica play at home more on the goes really. I think if you if there wasn't ever going to be a cop also conversion maybe it would probably use retrieve you ever picked one up. So there's that Kennedy dirty valid started. Dali I started an Afghan. Isn't that game on switch switch. Yeah that's a little weird when he used to be art all right Pokemon game on the latest ones out on their race and that is perfect for the next user. WHO has the question may be a good friend of mine? She wanted to ask you this question. So it's appropriate. What a Segue Who is your favorite pok among? That's what he wants to know. We God's difficult so many you talk I it would make it easier. We don't want to pressure like choosing the ultimate pokemon. You stand but that's the case. I always loved pitcher like that. I think everyone always left. Peaking absolutism reason their mascot material they. There's something irresistible pitches so cute. Can't exactly I've always loved like Gigli puck and easy What new feel and Nice choices like scored on a whole. That's really the thing is like that somebody pokemon but if you notice even your list like the word. I'm sorry like that's why everyone was so up in arms about about so. Many of the original poke on missing from sword and shield is because wars so lovable. Everyone remembers like whether whether you're a fossil like me or someone you know fresh and young Kyla. Everyone remembers the one of those. Things are just like. You're so did you watch the you know I haven't been able to have an yeah. I heard that I was really funny. Though I loaned I love the fact that they made it the the way they did. You know it's surprisingly good. That's the thing that justice at the filter It's surprisingly good. It's one of those things where I really didn't expected to be because let's face it most video game to movie. Conversions aren't really that great at the same time. This one was really good even at first a lot of people were scared of the realistic Polka Monitor. Kind of like Oh. I don't know how they do such a good job of making realistic pokemon still really cute lovable. For example Baldassare. That's that's my boy is all summer and he looked so scaly scaly and slimy and what you'd expect bulbous look like in real life in the movie but he's so cute and I just did such a great job. Charges are actually looks kind of intimidating meeting like they did a really cool picture of course. Cute like tomatoes face. Ed Cubans agree definitely. Yeah you should definitely check it out. Four we spoil every POKEMON. Oh come on in there. You should definitely check them out after that. And of course picking up the switch would allow you to play which I've heard despite impose mine is probably one of the best pokemon usually come out so far because it's still sticks to that formula that's been around forever and ever and ever but has this quality as life changes and refinement that maybe the older games are a little harder now. Because you know you're visited locked behind all this stuff but yeah no definitely surfing. That'd be really great desert hearing what you think about that. Ah Brig wanted to know you went to Cape Cod. La recently and when you went there did you Did you see a lot of support from fans still and at and if you did how did it feel to to see. I guess it's a very general question but like you know kind of were you surprised like kind of like how you were still getting surprise. I did tweet tweet out saying that I would be going to take on I showed up that day and I just posted a picture with my like the respond that they give you and I was like come find I ne- and I was swarmed like the minute they. I stepped inside the convention like one person came up to me after take pitcher and then after that it was just a group. 'cause you know like it takes a couple of seconds to get a picture of people and then once they see you they're like Oh my God if you and then like after a while it just it got so much that this one girl well. She came up to me and she was like hi I was wondering if maybe I should organize it. And have fans like neat you locations again. That's good good so then later on like I went downstairs and then I was like trying to find like a good place for us on the and then they saw them all lined up like I also that side just to try and like sort of escape for a second ticket when they find a place where we can meet and then I saw all of them lines out right in front of me and I was like Oh my God and there were a lot of people I wasn't able to stay and take pictures with everyone just because I had to Oh neat one of my old dance instructors but it was so great seeing all of these people who were wanting to take a picture and like talk and interact with me. I was just. It's like wow I still do have been I guess exactly. Great people does probably one of your more like public super public appearances in a while. Right during your time when Yahoo recently. So that's great too. I was kind of out of sight for a long time. And you know like nowadays I would love to get more active with like social media and Youtube and maybe the branch out and try some different things but you know I'm just trying to take things step at a time and cynical on what makes me happy and I think the hands the bike absolutely and that's we definitely want to see more of that content from you. I if I recall correctly I remember you sharing during a meeting with like yoga from Luna and only yeah obviously goes the twitter I may crowd. uh-huh definitely blew up Yeah my friend. Snakes like sort of as a request for me to tweet that out and they did because I also support Luna and he gave me like this picture and I was like okay. This is really funny so I like I like and Yeltsin Santana not and starts. He definitely blew up a lot more than I expected to neighbor. Thousand people will like like get along people out. Because I was supporting another artist I think especially the fan base next insanely only. They're very dedicated for better or sometimes but I love the fact that they're really really in there. Being part of that fan base myself. I I as I look at my co host several posters right behind them so obviously. I definitely say I was very hype to see you tweet that I I guess I don't know there's any preemptive tweets before that I saw that and I was just like all right. This is the best thing ever Taliban talents. And that's the neighbor when we're performing like as like for you and whatnot. They were still during the time of like you know like the now on on third and whatnot searches performing their songs. That I was like looking at them like they're pretty. They're so cute and I know for a fact that they're going to make it big and just seeing how big's except they've made like I felt so happy with them you know like they've come so far from that time to now too late not a lot of people all knew about them they were still i. Guess somewhat trainees you know. They're like a few that. Were performing and whatnot. How big their fan bases and see? How support that? They get from other celebrity even from people over here like like junk. That's like amazing. You Must Yeah Yeah No. It's almost surreal like and but the goes doesn't deserve it not to use that very ambitious to your predate you process. I mean that it must have been especially the girls debuted so long ago and took forever to finally come back into the scene. But that's really really cool project. I mean when they debuted viewed. I actually laid out with this dude that I made commercials within the pathological mean commercials and actually did a Stan Luna commercial for the era debut and stuff like that and it was it was it was really really actually. If you don't mind I'll probably send you that when I definitely want I will definitely watch it for sure And then Fo related to Kate Con Full wanted to know if you remember the prison slogan guy at take on Yes I do. I actually took a picture of that. Like I was walking in the now. Like hiding behind Like my friend. Well Yeah Yeah and then taking a picture changing nation that like they didn't bring me and they obviously saw me you know I didn't make it pretty obvious. They I found it really cute. I was like I walked in thought in. That really really need my day. But I'm really I'm really glad a he wants your house GonNa ask you and then to. He's got to be super hype. That you you do remember. So that's that's really awesome but yeah no. I just loved that you know. That's the thing we talked a little bit earlier about how twitter and sometimes a cave fans can be a bit much but on a more positive of note when they are passionate in the right ways it is amazing sometimes like we talked about Luna's fan base and then of course you know miser so supportive of even coming out and being a new group technically. We're all they're ready for it and are always supportive of Y'all I mean your current followers. You know that have been there even before you kind of set out on the content creator path though are still there for you. They always will be so nice to know. Yeah I love I love. How dedicated okay? Pumpkin like I know that sometimes it can be a bit extreme by think that's just because of how passionate they are. You know the artists that they love the music that they I love and I love how they fight for it. And I know that there's been so many Like Hashtag K.. Puppets over party. And that's always been trending at least like once a week. Look at that. Unlike the power that capable Saturdays it's it's astounding. I loved that so much. Yeah no it's it's it's it's absolutely insane. You know I mean just a random tangent real quick I remember when I first heard about early generation back in the day I had has no idea that side look for second and that was obviously a huge thing. I didn't know that it was going to eventually lead to what is now in today's time with bts twice you're talking about so many Cape artists like busing charts and just like taking some you know ward shows absolutely over. You know the the thing I would really like to convey to all the fans you know with their rivalries and whatnot. What is good to support success because all that can really do is open up the doors for other groups you know being a huge group that they are have a ton of supporters has but obviously they have some people who are but I always told him you know why be mad let you know armies do what they do and all that does is allow your favorite groups? Let's do now have this platform is when people start branching out this hereabouts. Oh yeah definitely so many fans have been like I heard about. Uti's I like their music. I decided to give capable try and now I love all of these different groups and all they have so amazing because you know like one group typically opened the door to all all these different groups at all of these different genres and I know a lot of people. Like to generalize tape off as like one type of sounds and unlike there's so so many like different types of music just within like American pop like people could generalize American. Pop is like this one thing but it's it's not that it's so diverse and that's the same thing with Cape Cop like each group has a different concept concept every single comeback at different song. Different sound all the way that they look it always changes with each comeback and I was like an each comeback. They keep on getting better and better. And that's you know like you just have to take the time to listen and look at it and appreciate it and just because it's in a different language I don't look down on that But Yeah I think in class once people give Cape up chance they really ended up loving it. It's just some people aren't willing to take that leap I think but it's it's definitely grown a lot over the years and I've just felt like so proud at how big it's gotten even though and not no longer a part of that Yeah I was just looking back on. It was like as I was very happy to have been sort of part of that whole movement. I guess she should say yeah. I know definitely you were very very again. person is one of those groups like this of the current generation all the groups that were related that you were spawned from like you know cosmic girls and everything. It's just been so great to see all of you guys blossom and then even post group group projects and everything like that. It's just been so great and you know that you will always be there support you you know. That's why you have your classes and that's why you'll always have you know the people that will be their support you and beyond everybody especially beyond the haters. Those are the important people. So that's definitely a cool thing that's kind of spawned out of Cape Office definitely beyond with so many people almost dismiss it as this like quick flash depending it's been around for a while now and it's only growing and so there's definitely all right then so for people who obviously the volume for awhile and then of course we're brand new fans who are now super super super into the classic Vanden. Where can people find you at on the social media as the Youtube whatever else you'd like to plug So you can find me on Instagram at Kyla Dot Nasu combined me on twitter at Kyla and underscore official so and you can find me on you too you too dot com slash. Kyle Massey. All right there you go and then we're just GONNA make sure to follow it all this places to see all the cool stuff coming up. You have any neighbors at school I was GONNA say. Do you have any public appearances or anything that you wanted to let anyone know that you might. It'd be at the same time you could follow isn't find all that out so that's what that's what I definitely follow her on their. She'll be letting US know. We really do appreciate taking time out of your super busy schedule to to talk to us a view shenanigans for low bit so we really do so much. I really appreciate that Organi Kinda okay. A lot of fun having Kyle on there that was that was great. And I appreciate as you who didn't just click off right now. I don't do that. Don't do that because we got a bit of news. Talk Right now. Please keep hanging on this police. We need friends so it gets C- deploy granted Talked recently because they are going to. It's going to be cyberpunk twenty seventy seven versus half life Alex so it's really interesting. The two big releases are coming out however see deploy has expressed here not too worried about it and I think they're absolutely right at least in my opinion not be because again half light. Alex does have. The fact is constrained to that platform working against it back that it's going to be PCB. They are extremely expensive. Do I don't see it really. I'd be curious to see if it will be what val continues to recall a success. Why is it continues? If it's what bow calls a success atlas big but when you're restricting it to are only even what half life and you'll love it you love that we're going to still buy again you probably will not even probably probably in the main storyline exactly. It's not that was the biggest like insult. Everyone wants episode three. And you didn't get it. That's fine yeah but would you guys be willing to at least try. Alex is in the cards. Have we got to setup. I mean if someone was interest of one of those things are sitting in front of you but not really a genuine interest. I mean you have. It's like they're sure why. Not if I go to pact's you're sure okay. Thanks for the right thing. Here's the yard. Because that's the biggest problem. I think it faces is. I think it's GONNA push units. I think very few people love half life to the point. Ain't where since it's not as if it was episode three I would have a view. Yeah but as a just a game. That's not going to conclude the story and may open more plot holes. I don't see it. Pushing them into units view people will obviously there are fanatics because we talked about it before the valve has they're fanatics. Yeah I just don't think it's GonNa push units that being said Cyberpunk twenty-seven hype for that. That's yeah anyone. Anyone interested in the area cool looking as one of the few games that I've actually been looking forward to lately. Absolutely I the thing that really got. Got Me hyped to here They talked about recently is that it's shorter than three. But what they did say though is a lot more replaceable. Because of that now by shorter we're talking eighty hours still so it's still a massive game. It's just about forty hours shorter than witcher richer but they did say that there are so many ways that the plot can go missions. You can do miss that. This is the type of game where her half bydesign. Half by the result it will be the kind of game you probably are going to do multiple playthrough bit of. You're not normally the multiple playthrough tight. It's that that kind of engaging game. I'm very excited to hear that. I think the funny argument. I think you should play. What your three? But I find some. This'll be for a while college on my joked about this for like couple years. Now that a cyberpunk have been coming down. The pipeline very slowly is the people who are `gate-keeping and being like if you did not play with the three do not deserve to play cyber. He's it makes no sense this developer and again the which is great but it's such a weird gatekeeper because literally has talking to do with it. Exactly that's who we are. Actually you can find that people are out there saying like whoa hype about Cyber Repugnant. Play the wizards shit about yeah you can give along with the witcher video fantasy answer. This is a different genre to witcher's fantasy and cyber focus clearly cyber brock. What it is actually? If if the Tesla Truck Geez is in there that is one of the few deals would allow to be there me and my roommate we're talking about the explodes. That is the one of the funniest the fact that they go. Don't worry guys are so strong it'll be able to sell pull as it is. The baseball player destroys the window. I forgot whatever like John's explanation they gave they gave some own house. House are like when apple keynote and they couldn't connect to the Wi fi or whatever you'd like embarrassing to it didn't work okay. Did he get fixed now. Yeah but when you showed it off not so impressive so but anyways but I do like the fact that the Tesla truck does look like a vapor wave like like I ride out of April Fan Art pick. It just looks like this weird. It looks like something out of crews in USA into Photoshop teams. Yeah it's ridiculous it. Is You know it is a concept but if anyone was going to be can actually look like it probably would be. Tesla Tesla Is Like I'll give them that. Life Tesla Tesla Love Elon. Musk hate us. When it comes to balancing like his brain and tech developments with being hip and appealing? He's like V neck. Steve jobs in terms of like decent tech or pretty good tag over all but making it hit thus price tag. That's basically Tesla but one. I will give Tesla though in terms of having an advantage inch like contributing more than what apple contribute is the fact that a lot of the technical developments that they are doing a tesla. This game is really beneficial to the environment and to the industry in General Mattis Fan of electric cars. But I still like the fact of all these great strides that they're making in terms of that so pumped what he's going to be really cool. Is there anything in particular era promotion. Wise that really stuck out to you you guys that made you get interested or just kind of all the generals of you see from cool. Did you watch the really long trailer that ends cannon all that stuff. It's they're pretty much pick. I the only thing that's going to happen and I'm sure our people who've never heard of the genre nerve cyberpunk. Yeah I was GONNA say like probably to add clarification stating the reason I'm interested is because it cyberpunk not because is of that's the name of the game. Yeah it is the genre cyberpunk like been like a huge eighties. Synth wave cake and then blade runner. What are some other ones like? I know snow crash like a popular one though. I haven't read that's a really good. It really is which is fair enough of is Valerie so my brother had shown me a trailer her before Keno came out and said anything and then at e three when amount. I looked at my brother watching this. I was like I'm I'm fine again like I've loved he on bill and Ted's excellent adventure Gerald Fred who knows his story he which you know you got a rough life. He had to be such a good person. Still is just insane and sounds motorcycle collection two and a car collection Circassians. But I mean he's still takes up way and all that in New York but he's just a really cool guy so once he put his name on it like like I am a Hark Yano Raves in smart. Yeah it was funny though to see how he obviously is going to cyberpunk to what extent is fairly clear but he had no idea e three. What's No Like he was just in or currently and how far it was the development You is just like hey guys cyberport my right and it's just like it was funny. He didn't try to over front too much. Obviously is endorsing it so he had to like somewhat pretend like he knew what was going on but it was just funny though this thing that is amazing racing the cyberpunk great and it was just. It was a lot less than that but it was pretty stilted like awkward. Awkward Pauses in him looking around like sweaty guys are looking at the hotel but at the same time you did give its charm to it. But I do like the fact that he also didn't oversell that like I'm so educated on this guy's life entire confused but you're hype on high like he kinda had that attitude in this first video game league will read it Yeah No. They've made the Matrix video games. Would of course they could never they didn't get in which I've only played enter the Matrix. I think they made like two. No three really guided uh-huh. Oh Yeah. Yeah the motion been cool should yeah. It's a shame that was wasted. Two now but yeah. I mean unless. There's a resurgence of Matrix weirder. Things have happened rain doing things I guess if they are the depending on that it could lead to get you know Terminator Games you know. What was that other one? They just the Predator of the bed frame with what of coming on later in twenty twenty. Of course Josh and I would really about this dental make right three coming switch so I talked about it before when you guys were here already or if you guys were already but we did talk about when they did one we kinda like okay one and two and we were just like oh no life. Why a two was awful but I did go? I did say like I think they're gonNA do all of them and so far they've been moving at a pretty decent pace of all out there so so I think at least by the end of twenty twenty four. We'll probably drop in a vacant worth their conversion magic. Well enough which has been able to pull off of. I would say that five will probably I think. That's what the geared towards building up that hybrid. You get caught up with the saga of Devil May cry. Although there's a bit of disconnect the story anyways you can kind of just in two three three four and five and be fine. I mean to be fair to the leaf you're jumping into I for example actually does a really good job giving you the stories just like yeah yeah you can play five. There's little primers in there to enter all want more reasonable primers than Yakuza. Does where you can pretty much watch like a four hour. They get caught up. That much should all but finish shed me but I just wanted to bring it up okay. So you've played a game before were there's health bar stamina bar food bar probably read dead something like that right private. Oh okay. We're having dinner one time using this is GonNa be brand new information you have right. It's less it's annoying. I can read did to your plan your little cowboy. It's not really that fun. Flavor Dead Not Tamagotchi cowboy simulator. But you have Obviously and you got to balance your skyrock. For example your Momma you're ever right. Jen Moves Three. Oh man it's fantastic ethic they. Have you have your food because you get hungry. You're standing on your health as one bar. That's right so if you're not managing your food you go into a major battle at like almost dead sprint and you didn't eat the new sprint into the next flight. Then you've got into the by or sales by accident. You could be like a quarter Elf. It makes me not WANNA play that game in that made me too. It's really it it's it. Sounds like really bad game design just like this okay. So I talked about before how Chen was kind of a necessary now because we have yes it was the proto that genre and probably lead yakkers existing but this exists now air conditioning. Now we have phones now. Why would you go that? It's almost like they were just like we had designed this game back in the day right because she had one issue where there was like no wait system so if you had to wait till five pm you play. It wasn't like a real five five however many hours but it was a really really long time so to added a weight system. What I like to call the sometimes away system because you can accelerate time sometimes then other times you did have the problem where you really had to just kill time? Walk Around town and play Lucky. Hit Joe became five. PM It's like they looked at that and said if Shenmu three it come out in a reasonable amount of time to drink or whatever. What bad thing would we have introduced and then did the meter thing? It's really there are so many games that you multi media management. Yeah that should have shown you that. Ah Good how did that make it through. Did no one look at that and say hey guys like no one does this. It's horrible mark. Let's say it reminds me of the lunar game on the D. S. That game was bad or was it did. It has some so for those who heard great things about loon are suber song there. There's like at least eight inches which is held to this like pedestal. Revere so I remember. They released one for the D. S.. So I thought I would check it out and it was called Lunar Dragon Song. I think because you know now the fad was that you had to make a title that fit with Diaz of course and the game was garbage because when you sprint prints it uses of your health while so they took a lot of its version and when you attack it will use of your health ovine watch this is just shed shed Zhangzhou. You had to heal with these conceivable which were stupidly expensive. And here's also the kicker when you're out how grinding and fighting random mobs you have to toggle whether you're going to earn experience from that battle or if you're gonNA earn items it was so bad. It was such a high any game do you look at. Why would you do that? The headline just popped up on my phone Amazon. Under fire for selling off Schlitz Christmas ornaments. Oh can we look at us us. Let's not okay so final fantasy seven remakes coming out in two thousand twenty S. Well and it. You're not a fan of the cover. Where clouds do you know looking up at shooter? Tower and towery and hold into sorta it's reversible cover. He gives do the whole place at work where it's like black with a little video or the finalized some logo and then the one with cloud reenacted with better graphics looking at you look up at the thing with that being said. I found it when I was looking at the artwork for. I'm excited for his role and remake jockeyed Carolina Salama Mallory. But with that the case I was looking at it and I just find it so off that it just says final fantasy seven and literally the word remake. You just call the pharmacy seven. Everyone would do the job of parentheses twenty twenty like what they did with do do yeah parentheses two thousand sixteen so I really call dude. Twenty sixteen hours refers it to that same resident evil two resident evil two nineteen. But it's not literally called resident evil to remake. We're I just felt it was weird that it actually says the word reading on there. I didn't really hit me until I was looking at the box. Art where I'm just like it really says remake doesn't like that's actually on the thing I don't know it to be amazing look of cheap cheap a little project name on there as weird caller that everyone should refer to it as that you know the actually put it. Yes that was one of those calls where I really do question but we'll see Ten cent lovely lovely ten cent by another developer Suba Games or whatever they ended up by fifty million shares on ten percent of the company. Now tencent is doing their thing. Where ten percent here ten cent there Eh? And doing all that stuff with the case. That's just like they have their hooks and everything but to the point where it's just it's big enough where like people would be scared to piss them off but lil enough where they don't go. Everything's owned by ten cents like try to avoid a monopoly type thing but like it can't be hooks and so many things a little scary. If you do a research your ear big video game Fan Guy Look at how especially if you're in the mainstream games look at how the Games you know may not say tencent upfront. But on the back end of things things they have a stake in their of very five ten plus percent at the Games fifty percent. Think about that. Look into that and you'd be really scared scared. How many things have really do have in the background bill? The puppet strings tencent influence. It's crazy that's not a moral company. That's for sure they are what you would expect from a huge tyrant Chinese corporation like they just want everything on a slice of all the pies. It's crazy. Yeah they they bought a stake in another studio just getting really scary big and small homages buying in. Oh that's it for the week and then that's it we're there we made of you. Who made it to the end? Thank you so much again. We want to thank thank Mikailah Massey. Forty percent on their prison forever actually not formally person and always and we always support her. We got channels on their real league of all of them below. Definitely check it out as if she needs the help right but it is always busy border. Cue Such sweethearts sodas the take time out of her very very very hectic schedule to make time for us. We really do appreciate that like the rest of our guest. Jean family on that so always ends up Kylo anything living you need. We got you all right and until next week where it's totally live on air. 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Freelance Vets with Jay Sheehan

Veteran On the Move

34:05 min | 3 months ago

Freelance Vets with Jay Sheehan

"Army veteran j! She has extensive experience in impersonal staffing recruiting recently started freelance vets, which is a platform that helps military veterans and military spouses find remote work coming up next of veteran the move. Welcome to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition, an entrepreneur wanna be for someone still stuck at that J.. O. Trying to escape. This podcast is dedicated to your success. And now your host job rain. We've US Navy, federal many times over the years for automobile, so whether it's your first car or your dream car. Navy federal is there to help guide you into finding a comfortable monthly payment. You can afford plus the military discounts. Check him out NAVYFEDERAL DOT Org. Today we're talking with J. Sheehan Jay's worked on Jesus wanted one starting freelance vets before we get to talk about that, Jay, tickets back until us which did in the army. All right John Well. My my last MOS was ninety seven echo interrogator. I'm with Arabic linguists in the background Kinda got thrown into that. I had been driving out to the language school to learn Mandarin and our. MTO changed, so our theater changed. Everything changed as I'm driving out there. This is pre nine eleven and. That have way out. There was told that I'm going out there for Arabic now instead, which was kind of a kick, but We all know how that goes. Just you know. Carry on drive on at the job done but The language school. learned modern, standard Arabic with a bunch of group guys and girls from all branches and nine eleven happened. I had previously joined in now and ninety one ninety two for Desert Storm Desert Shield and. Was a combat engineer. Lend got talked into going 'EM I. It's a weird transition honestly, but You know I I look back, and it was some of the best and worst times in my life. I'm sure pretty much. Everyone will have that same experience, but That's That's it in a nutshell. Is, he probably get a little bit of peg a couple of chances to use that language in last few years following last September eleventh. Yes Sir Sir. Yeah. Probably, some good stories for another podcast, so talk to us about when you ended up getting out, or are you retired? what your transition out of the army was like and ultimately how you get into entrepreneurship. Well I mean I I was active duty reserve guard, active duty reserves. You know so I I like to joke that I spent more time on active duty as a reservist than I did in active duty so. Having that background I was able to work. You know in between a lot of times. I got into recruitment. Civilian recruitment and Working for. Staffing. And opened up several officers and. took to it. So when I came home. I kind of went out on my own I cooked up with a gentleman I used to work with a former agency. And he and I opened up our first startup, and within about three years we were building about twelve million dollars. with multiple offices are all over the state of Connecticut and. Just, you know, kick ass and take names in. It was good. It was hard for me not to to work for myself. you know? Had some karate schools in the past? Always Dabbled in entrepreneurship, and when I came out this last time I said this, is it start a family in a make? This works so I got into what I knew, well, which was that recruitment industry and never looked back. So! Can you tell us a little bit about the re? The recruiting industry is really more recruiting, not not staffing agency type stuff. Is that correct? Well actually I worked for what they would call a full service, so we did a temporary staffing long-term contingent staffing direct tire contract work. We had it all under one roof, so when I went out on my own. I kind of took that same model with me because it's what I knew. I had programmers and engineers working for companies as contractors. We would make a direct placements. I placed the vice president of a fortune five hundred company one ear A lot of what I did was in the manufacturing fills infection distribution. One point my company was the. national provider for macy's logistics and operations so anything that you or your wife bought online. basically was most likely packed by one of the people that worked for me. And sent to your house so So we were all over the place with that, yeah, so I got this I got a natural curiosity about. About that business what Can you talk through the methodology on? What what is it like usually our companies coming to us? We need help with our staffing or you going out and soliciting companies, saying hey, we can help you with their stabbing I'm sure there's a mix and then. Can you kind of walk the dog with us about? What it's like to land a contract with a company like that, and then where do you go to your fishing hole that you go to find labor or skilled labor or management type people and how you screen him? Match 'em up and ultimately. Closet on the other where you get, somebody hired or bring somebody in. Roger that yeah well. As you said it is a mix of going out and soliciting business getting the getting to hear that word, no a thousand times before year. Yes, once. So you build that Dick Skin, but I think we already had fixed skins being in the military, especially depending upon your Mos. We're yelled at a lot. So I think we kind of develop that understanding that at the end of the day just got to get the job done so. So yet. We would go out and sell a lot Because if you're not selling your dying in that industry, you know one one bad one bad job and you could lose twelve, you know. And that's that's one of the drawbacks of the industry is. Is that your commodity so to speak or actually putting the work? There are people it's not like buying a laptop putting on his desk and it works you know a person has. Their own process, you know they might not want to get up and go to work. So. They don't go to work and if they don't go to work, then you're not getting paid. You know so. There's all of that mixed into. It so with my companies. We always would try to place a veteran. I, in fact, I had an office in Jacksonville North Carolina right off the rear gate. So you know we would constantly try to recruit veterans and military spouses, because you get a different work ethic. No, we're used to get up early. We're used to going to work for doing. Our job is not always a lot of thanks in what we do you know, but you get up and you do it anyway. Because it's your job, you know so. From a standpoint of employer for us. We were employer. With a lot of employees so. We would always look for a veteran I. and that that really held tight for us. No matter how big or how busy got there was a veteran and they need a job. We would give them the opportunity to. Better themselves and get a position that might. Might otherwise change your life. You know I. Know a Lotta, guys and girls when they get out. They don't have the the past drawn out for that. That's one of the problems with transition. I think I don't know if I'm getting off track on yet. But no, not at all I would love to talk about. The transit led to hear your perspective on transition would've. Would have had one is. I I. Mean I think we've we've all been through. A lot of times. When you're transitioning. You just want to check the box. You know you're tired. You don't WanNa. Go through and sit that sitting in that class and be told how to write a resume you. Don't you just don't want to do it? And unfortunately it's It's something military provides us, and we don't always depending upon age I think. I think a lot of it has to do with age in. Where your head's at now when you're younger and you're getting out after like four four six years you're. You're thinking you're invincible. Will now see just? GonNa get out. Do whatever you WANNA do. I think that you get a career military person. And he or she has a different mindset as to what they would like to try to achieve. You know they've had a career. They're trying to move on. Kerryon, with hopefully family, or whatever their next step in their career passes so I think that. Age inexperienced play a lot of. Different roles during that transition And I think a lot of that transition programs. They work if you work on. Some who don't work that, well I mean as a recruiter for many years I would always try to go through the transition programs at local basis. But you know. Brag might not speak to June. You know or they don't at all. Or login might not speak to cherry point in a so you have all these different. Hands in the pot so to speak and not one of them on the same page law. I think that's one of the inherent issues with the transition program you know. XYZ Base or post translation might do a fantastic job of apparent, a soldier sailor marine to get out. but you know the one down the street or the next town over. Doesn't you know and and I think there's a big disconnect there on the transition excite, and that other disconnect like I said is. What do you WanNa? Do when you? Right or you know the old adage. What you WANNA be when you grow up. You know it's it's funny, and it is, but it isn't. You know it's truly you know we. We join the military. We do our job every day. And sometimes those jobs directly translate into Civilian Gore and sometimes they don't you know. Stove! Did you love your job in military, some of with may some of US may not have. It wasn't so bad, but do you see yourself doing it the next twenty years? Right, So those are all questions. You have to ask yourself during a transition period. I know the military's been getting a lot better with programs fellowships Apprenticeship programs that you can depending on command work at US as apprentice in that position for six nine months before you ats. That's huge. If that's available, I take advantage of it. It's kind of a try before you buy. You know, go out and and see an employer in the real world and have a civilian job while you're still in the male military quote, unquote. Even even if that's not the job you end up with. Knowing what you don't want sometimes is more valuable than than doing what you want, so without a dow and you know. I was in. The staffing business. So a lot of times. We'll have a temporary temp to hire job. And sometimes it might not be the great greatest thing but I. Tell the story one of the first placements I ever met. Gentleman had just got out of jail after five years and came in with his wife, his kids, his mom and his past. Begging for a job and I said you know listen, I'll take the chance. I've got job. It's just one day. Show up Monday eight am, do the job. If, I get a good report to the next one, and we'll just carry on a move forward that gentlemen now runs a crew of thirty people at the same position. He'd never left that job, and that's thirteen years ago. I think. So. It's an amazing story. All comes back to how you carry yourself and what? You WanNa do with yourself when you get out. Yeah, well, it's amazing I J. hold that we're GONNA be right back in. We're going to get to talking about What you guys you're doing with freelance vet, so we are back. Certainly. Your membership is a big deal. Navy Federal Credit Union will help you save money. Make money and enjoy peace of mind security through personalized. 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What's the state of the Union? As far as remote work these days because? Obviously. We've all been kind of forced into the remote work with Kobe nineteen everything going on, but before even before that happened, remote work is really been. Start has been gained a lot of momentum. There's a lot of legit work alive. legit jobs like real careers that are almost all remote and so with freelance vets. Tell us. What's going on in the area of remote? Working with those opportunities are for veterans. Certainly my pleasure while I, mean as you were just saying we've all been thrust into this now. but what we feel is going to happen. because as direct. Direct occurrence what's been going on in the nation and across the world is that we feel that clients and companies are going to be more dependent upon freelancers and remote workers than they were even before and to put into perspective trial last year or one of the reports said that. By the year twenty twenty seven, this is before co would happen by the year two thousand, twenty, seven, they they estimate that fifty three percent of the jobs in the United, states all be done remotely. That's a huge number of you want to actually look at it. Demographically right now. Already at the number probably or even higher other than you know the the standard jobs that you really have to be there for So I think it was kind of fortuitous that we open. When we did or launched the platform we did, but we're trying to launch the end of last year, but you know programming is expensive and. It's also a lot more than you ever think it is, you know. As I'm sure you can tell by doing what you do. For All these years, the technology changes rapidly end. You know, try to keep ahead of that curve is is daunting so we had setbacks and. Literally rolled out the platform above three and a half weeks ago, so we're excited that we're new. We're excited that we're going to be able to bring those remote jobs to the veteran. A military spouse community because that's what freelance at bets about it is literally a showcase spotlight. For veterans in their spouses to get remote jobs. There's other sites out there. That say they help veterans. Get you know remote work or freelance were, and it's literally a check box on the third page this one. were, not that we are literally only about active duty. Veterans in military spouses, so we'll be going after the same positions that a lot of those other platforms have but. Our bread and butter, or who were trying to promote the most is just sat one community, and we feel it'll be twofold. One. It'll open the community of the jobs that they might not have been exposed to you. Know and those jobs could be cybersecurity graphic design, I t h our accounting. as we were discussing offsite earlier would out virtual assistance. Any clutter jobs that are available that now. And more companies seem can be handled alway. Would that being said. The company's clients that will be bringing in now have a better taste for what works and what doesn't. So I, think it puts all of us in a better light because a lot of times when you're hiring a freelancer as a company, your ended up with a freelancer from overseas. Sometimes. There's a time difference which might be an issue. A lot of times, there's a communication difference which is always an issue so we feel that you know. With veterans in military spouses that. That should be taken off the table. they're going to a client or customer is going to get someone that. English speaking as a first language might speak. Multiple languages may still hold a top secret clearance or seeker clear. We come to the table with so many skills and soft skills that A. Normal employer! Can't usually translate. But now that they can see in front of them. I believe it will translate a lot better. I think it just puts all of us in a better light. So That's that's one of the things that were so excited about you know we're. We're just excited to build to shine a light on this community. You know the. The military spouse on planet rate is I. Think the last number I saw a little over twenty four percent. That's ridiculous. That shouldn't be a sick. It shouldn't be you know. spouses you know, get the crap into the stick a lot of times they're. They're following US around the country or the world, a lot of times in. The family together and end up working a job for minimum wage, just trying to make ends meet. In Latin overseas you know, it depends on what country you're in. You might be good job on on base or on post. Because it's US laws, but you can't even go work. The spouse can't even go workout in town. The rights illegal for a non citizen of that country to get a job. And jobs are there on Bass I bass hoods very limited so. Know. I was just speaking to another spouse day. Who? She said every time they get. PCS The I stopped the truck. Drivers are G and. Try to find out where the jobs are what they are and how they should go about getting. You know This is something that makes it almost completely portable. You know your. Employer and everything's done online and. They basically get to become their own boss I was involved in another. podcast recently in the whole premise behind it was designing your life as a veteran or a military spouse. What better way to design your life than to literally create a business around yourself. Yeah, he's phenomenal. What so? What do you think? Sometimes, from a military spouse perspective or even a veteran looking for remote work. I think that the typical mentality for something that might be new to this concept of remote work, is it? It's GonNa be really hard to find quality work equality job. But I suspect the opposite is true that the the real problem in what you're doing is probably finding the military spouses then her for this kind of work you. Would you have more of people looking for jobs or companies kicking screaming, trying to our military spouses and remote work veterans. We'll. That's interesting, because right now is just you know it's? It's the doomsday method right now I'm not. I'm not sure any of us can really quantify what's going on. You know companies that are quote, unquote, essential or still working but they're unable to find people to come to work. And then companies aren't essential. That aren't working. have. employees that there would like to continue to employ, but they're not able to for reasons that we all. Are Sitting working through ourselves. normally. If you follow like the jobs report every year. I know no one really follows that unless you're really in an industry that it makes sense to. The financial industry our door employment. So staffing. Usually it's it's one or the other. You have more jobs than people. You have more people in jobs, so it's either a buyers market or a seller's market in that sense kind of the housing market. So it's a buyer's market when you have. More jobs than people, you can or more people than jobs, you'd be very selective on who you take in on those jobs and then flip flops. And a customer may have twenty jobs open in only needs three people apply. Those three people are now hold that employer out for a little bit more money or more benefits, or whatever so the that a ministry on the remote side. You're competing against people worldwide because a lot of these jobs can be done from anywhere. You know so. I believe that a little bit more of a fair playing ground in the sense. The customer client will be able to pick and choose from a larger pool, but. Because we have made that pool, more finite and more detailed. I believe at the pool that we're bringing to. The table is much better product than most of the other ones out there so. In that sense. I believe that the people that register freelance vets in the jobs that we have coming in. Are? We GonNA experience a greater. Satisfaction on both sides. Satisfaction for the client because they'll have someone that. Speaks the language quote unquote and has a work ethic. That will you know? Walk through a wall to get the job done? I can't speak for you, but I I know that we were always push push push to get the job done whatever costs right. That translates as far as work. Ethic is concerned you now so. I still get up before five every day. You know people think I'm not like. What could you possibly do that I'm like I'm ready for work and working before you guys. Are you know? Dusting your eyes off and getting your First Cup of coffee you move for nillion. Most people do not. Want to date myself, but you just did it for us. It's Ok John. Do you, do you? Do you find? Do you find yourself having to keep potential clients on military spouse like military military spouse? What's what do you military Smith all the time? All. You know I I would be read as to say that I. Am the best proposal is? You know when I was married in the military I didn't put as much thought into it because we have children, it's time you know we just. We did our thing I didn't put as much. Thought into. What was the spouse have to go through as I do now? I've been more exposed to it now. Over the last year or two doing what we're doing. that. I see the holes in the model and I just want to help you know my partner. That's all we WANNA do is be able to help as many people as we possibly can every day. You know we have very good success in the business by direct placement, open veterans and spouses. And now we WANNA take that and multiply it over and over again so that we can help more every day and. I believe that the spouses suffer from a law of thinks you know there's some there's a mental toll you know what's my identity. If it's not my husband and wife. What's my identity as a military spouse? You know because they're following us like I said all over the world, a lot of times or they're staying in our home of record to take care of our families. While, we're all the world now. There's a lot that goes into being faust a lot of. Employers just can't understand so. You know I think it's our job. As a company? And as a community to help employers understand better. What they get in an employee or enact just as a person. My hiring military spouses and I believe that once we educate that. The! Cell is awfully. Bill see the value and that's all we're trying to do is bring the value in show them that. And so, if somebody's interested in freelance, vets applying for a job or Clinton may be looking to hire military spouse How did they find freelance fits? Real simple. I can just go to freelance vets. Dot Com. The the page. Open ready for for business. They can click on. If they want to be a freelancer, they WANNA work, or if their client looking for a freelancer I wanNA hire and the application process on either side is is very simple. In order to keep our database true, you know, and not diluted with people that are not not veterans or spouses. we have a verification process that we ask. Every applicants through uploading a copy of the VA, Navigation Card or For spouses, a copy of spousal orders won't marriage certificate or the dod eleven seventy to form or victims comfortable with their I, D, their ide- one of the things that we tried to work very hard on. Am I I. Take Security Pretty Pretty Seriously, so one of the things that we work pretty hard on was once. The verification process is done in. We click verified. It deletes that record off the server, so there's no copy of it anymore. I didn't want us to be responsible for people's personal information. Has Really all. We're doing is acting as a matchmaker. We're bringing the veteran or spouse to the table, and we're bringing the client customer to the table and letting them work it out. You know so. It's what's the process. They go through through the database and look around at jobs. What what's the hiring process or the? The selection process consist of. Well right now. We are like I said. We just launched, so we try to do phases because. We didn't want to ambig- and miss big. We wanted to aim small. Miss Small so our phase one, which is what we're over fifty percent through with was to try to thousand freelancers registered and verified on the system, or over five hundred, almost six now in a little over three weeks, so we're pretty happy with the organic growth of it right now. and then face to bring the clients and customers on board with the jobs. We have to companies that are actually working with stay. Start on Wednesday so tomorrow, actually with a few of the freelancers that we have in the system to try to make sure that the customer side in client side works the way we thought it would. You know you can do testing one hundred times, but until someone has never used it before us it. You don't know if it works properly, you know or you're missing something so. Phase, one is like I said was to bring in the freelancers were. Working diligently rapidly through that and phase two would be to bring the clients onboard so what they would be looking at once face to his over which is probably about the next three weeks, the system will be completely old, but in live at that point, or they'll be looking at it as you go on a freelancer in register. Once, you're approved to look jobs. You'll the over to go onto jobs, board and search for things in your field. Maybe you're a graphic designer or We have one of the. Best voiceover artists that was on one of our. Competitor, sites, who happens to be an army veteran, and now he's on our our platform as well looking for a job so. There's GonNa be. A. A supermarket of basically there, you know there could be jobs in graphic design cyber. It structure scrum. Hr You name it. We're going to be going in going after those companies that are out there looking for people just like that that might not have been exposed to the veteran or military spouse community, and then from a client side once they're approved because we do approve all the clients as well. We don't want those work at Hams home scans or MLM's or have any of that you know. bastardising our our our product are at our project here so. The client has to go through their own application. Process we, we've at the client. We get on a phone call with them directly to make sure that they are who they say they are. The positions are what they say they are, and then once we approve them then they can post job, but then again we approve the job to. We don't want anything that is quote unquote risque or you know that doesn't fit the model so. We try to take care of both sides because we feel that. The veterans and military spouses are worth a little extra effort. You know what I mean, right? You're not talking about a lot of extra for just doing the right thing for the right people for the right beasts, and that's what we're here to do. Absolutely well, that's awesome Jay thanks for sharing that so freelance vets dot com if you're interested in. Finding military spouses or veterans were or or if your spouse for veteran, job or Regardless of what your current Kirk conditions are overseas Within the US all fair game, so great place to to check out look for some for potential career. Choices in in the best part is, it is mobile. You know all these jobs if it's remote work. It shouldn't really change much with with between each each pcs, and even if you end up, pcs overseas or coming back from overseas others definitely, Seville continuity situation in continuity opportunity there, so it's pretty awesome, so a JD. WanNa give you the last word. We're about out of time. somebody that's. Something that's transitioning out of the military whether you're talking to the military member or the spouse. what can would you have for them if they're if they're looking at remote work, you're not really sure about his whole remote work. possibilities are. well I would say that. As we were saying earlier. Try before you buy. The freelance model for a lot of people, even though they're not familiar with it or comfortable with it yet can be an excellent judy before you're getting out to say okay well. Let me try this job it it kind of fits what my soft skills are in and where I want to see my career Goebel going forward so a lot of us don't want to get out and take that security job or that contracting job overseas or whatever and Su. There's no harm no foul. But this will allow you the opportunity to be your own boss is that's what in essence you are? You know your client. Is Your boss because when you're working for anybody? Everyone's your boss at that point. But you get the opportunity to try different positions, and you know see if working for yourself is actually a viable opportunity for you. Right awesome, we'll hit J.. A. Thanks for sharing your success story and sharing the up freelance vets has out there for. Military members in in the military spouse also look forward to hear about your future success, and are you fairly early on, but you get plenty of experiencing this in this niche in in this industry. That to look forward to hearing about what the was success. You have here near future. Rate I appreciate the time today Joe was pleasure to speak to you. You bet take care. These veterans are Oscar Mike. Listening to veteran on the move your pathfinder freedom. If you like the show, leave us a review and I tunes reviews always greatly appreciated. So until next time. This veteran is Oscar Mike.

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Dog Training Business

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Dog Training Business

"The Eric Becky from Paradigm Dog. Training is coming up next on veteran on the move. Welcome to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition and entrepreneur wannabe for someone still stuck at the GOP trying to escape this. Podcast is dedicated to your success at now job. Rain Navy Federal Credit Union. We want you to know that we have your back. We've all faced tough challenges individually but right now we're facing some together and the safety of our members. Employees in community is our first priority. Talking with army veteran. Eric Becky from performance impaired. I'm Doug Training Eric. Thanks for the. Thanks for joining us here on better on the move before talking about entrepreneurship and business. Take us back to US which I joined. The army after high school as an engineer enlisted engineer and fortunately had a as an engineer. You kind of get the play. Lots of different roles The learnt how blow up dig ditches neom very lucrative When I was presented with the opportunity to to leave I did But fortunate before then. I did get to deployed to Ramadi Iraq. Two thousand six during some of the bloodiest battles of the war and got had some very interesting experiences. That have developed me into the person I am today. So I'm very grateful for the challenges. The honor to have served and and very thankful for those who continue to serve in those guys who came before me this time in around. That area was Segments there at Alta cottam between Ramadi and Volusia Spilling time flying around both those cities in Latin out west and Baghdad. Everything else so certainly can relate especially if you were driving around the roads very much so we appreciate debt So Lemme so talk Taco based to us about when you get out of the transition was like Oh. I had a lot of time to make up as far as being a young adulthood wearing a uniform. From the time I was eighteen to twenty three or so and so I decided to drink. Mys- myself half the death. I think what so when I got out. I really had no direction of what I wanted to do. And I had you know. Ninety days paid leave or whatever to to try to sort things out and and so I decided to to just kind of wait to less minutes because I didn't have any real director for. Why join the army or have a real direction for while leaving? I just was just kind of going through the motions or whatever. I was very fortunate to have signed up for helmets to hardhats So plugged that organization. I had a sergeant major from who knows where I wish I could reach out to him and thank him. But he called me up sergeant. Thank you get up your ass and get down there. The elevator industry is taking an aptitude test. Too Smart to be doing the stupid stuff that you're doing get off. You're asking to take the test. And so I went down to the like the the recruiting station for the Tradespeople took a test and they had the interview with a bunch of Salty. Old Elevator. Guys I told him that I had learned some some stuff in the army but nothing really that applied to the civilian world. Kinda start all over again and they said well. If you're willing naval will help you get into a skilled trade and so I was. I went through a five year apprenticeship to become a master elevator mechanic at the I got to. I worked my way up to become foreman and ultimately a superintendent for here's a mouthful the largest vertical transportation project in the history of the United States in DC. We want we were doing a modernization of some ten story. Tall escalators in the DC METRO. And so that was an incredible experience to apply my field crafts of new. Spin wrenches. Weldon STACK DEAL WITH SOME LEADERSHIP. Skills have developed in the army and in the run and work in the budding civilian career. But I realized that was building somebody else's dream and I needed to go really. I really wanted to start my own business. And so once I got the project wrapped up. I took my little bonus I took. I could do and decide to go. Start my own thing. So new kitchen unit plucking away from Ullivan. I did I probably did it way too soon. I I look back on. It could have transitioned from my civilian career to entrepreneurship way. Way Smarter Pass rather than just jumping off in figuring out on the way I just felt like I was. I felt like stealing from my employer is always like hustling on the side. Doing all this little like what I was doing was Internet marketing stuff and those who are familiar. I was building eight. My copywriting chops. I was on facebook ads writing email marketing stuff for local businesses. And I just felt like I I it was just like I was not authentically going full all in on my clients and not all in my civilian career and I just felt like a lack of integrity and just wanted to go. I wanted to do the right thing. And not. Just go go whole hog and his whole entrepreneurship thing so vertical transportation. I've ever heard that term before so like if you're hanging out hanging out at the bar and some of this kind of business you and women involved in vertical transportation. I'm in horizontal transportation pointing myself the elevator man. I felt like I needed to have more of a cause as to it. It's I install. Elevators are just too simple for someone who was trying to make it sound sophisticated. So they're gonNA get an elevator question for have always wondered this. Oh you know how every every elevator in the US when you press like. I'M GOING TO GO TO FLOOR. Tanner like oh no wait. I really wanted to go to Florida. Levin you can't de-select floor ten so okay. So I fly a lot to fly out to Asia these days in China. The elevators in the hotels will let you de-select the floor. Wow if you pressed hand and you press it twice it'll de-selected like oh you gotta be kidding me. Somebody finally figured it out. I've always heard talking to a US. Elevator China figured it out you guys get to bring that to the US or the US. People think that he pushed a button. Ten or fifteen times. They'll get the door to shut fast. Go past abuse the the city full of states. If you're waiting for the elevator in the hallway the more times you press the button faster we'll get there too right exactly so so you pretty much. So you're already doing a little bit on the side while you're still installing elevators and actually be conscious get teased feeling as just quit and walked away from an altogether. So what was that transition like goal from a steady paycheck to know your own your own. The the funny thing is it's like when you're making two incomes and kind of I was twenty nine years old and said you know by the time I'm thirty years old. I'm never GONNA have to work for anybody ever again. I'm just GonNa do this thing. I'm making a making six figures in my civilian job and have aside a six-figure side-hustle on Mike I got you know no no wife or kids or anything and some I got this. I'm smarter than everybody. I can't believe how how easy just money just shoots out on my computer. It's awesome and so I. I needed to burn through all that income very quickly once. I got This fifty thousand dollar check and I'm like man I drive. It used pickup truck. I I have a couple of houses and I'm just living this dream in I got I got lazy I got. I really saw that clients. Were going to be able to find out how incredible I was at this thing. And how does this? My skills are so good that it's just going to sell themselves and and it's just does not work that way There's like it's A. It's a dream to think that you were going to like this passive income I. It's it's it's not that easy so so especially gone from two six figure incomes. Okay I'm just going to do this. The side hustle thing. They're going to make it my full wanting Can make more money at proceeded to struggle for three or four years. I'm about to be thirty. Five so about three years of screwing around the making a boatload of money in thinking. I've got it all figured out and kind of screwing around with little small jobs and figuring out that my effective hourly rate was not nearly as what you know. I would have made more money by working for by my my day job but being too proud to go back to it and still trying to make this side hustle marketing thing work and when it works it works really good. And there's a lot of money to be made as a marketer and copywriter in marketing. Whatever but it was not consistent especially when you take take on a client to perform a result. And then you've got to then fulfil on that you get you let your mouth write a check. Your your assets the cash So it all the time he spent sales and marketing for yourself. And then you've got actually for somebody else and so I. I should have built a better team. I had a loose group of freelancers to help me in my weak spots like. I'm not a graphic designer. I'm not I don't want to be doing web development once Up like a facebook ad like stuff. I don't WanNa keep on managing it and ultimately it is a it's a it's a trade one job for a low paying self employment job is what it turned out to be and I got I would get frustrated with one set of clients like I got really good at I was working with. Live gyms in high end cross fit gyms and health thought to stuff like that and I would get really good at it and get bored and get sick of the kind of people who own gym so I jumped from fitness industry to finance industry so working with a whole bunch of it financial advisers and brokers of different kinds of insurances. Get bored with that so when I go to another thing it. Just keep on jumping from one thing to the next thing. The next thing is a shiny object entrepreneur person and I wish I would have figured out my these and exited my civilian career and a bigger doubt away to apply civilian career before just jumping into whatever shiny objects make money was right in front of me. But that's kind of as a as an opportunist entrepreneur you figure it out but It looking back connecting the dots. It's painful even recapped you here. Well some of US have to go through the chase shiny object that we see for several years to finally realise that we need to figure out something to settle on. Ins and get our poor sight set and that's ultimately what brought me to dog training. I had been messing around with dogs for years before I got into the elevator trade. I had applied for the Baltimore City police and I had seen them with these police. Thought I had seen military working dogs by really. Didn't know what it meant. It don't rock clearance and stuff like that but it but you know it's one thing when it's just you know another like you know you see the Navy you guys doing. Bad stuff and a cool. Those guys are cooled our shorts Roy short but now whatever I as those guys and then so I thought I wanted to maybe be a cop. I saw the police. Canine disarm volunteering. Doing I got into sport dogs stuff and I just saw what was really possible with these dogs. Unfortunately my the elevator trade pays really well so I I would spend my weekends and Free. Time Training these dogs as a sport world for IPO shut-ins Psa dog these police sporting protection dog. Sports added to mess around with it. And that was when I wasn't spinner ranches or Writing all my marketing stuff. I was training dogs. I'm like you know the whole reason that I wanted to leave my day job so I could spend more time doing the things I want to do. And that was training dogs and Mike Look wired. Have ten years experience looking back like I've been training dogs competitively for like ten years. I wonder if if people would actually pay me to do this. And and like what if I apply instead of chasing all these different kinds of shiny objects marketing Leashes what I just like applied that marketing stuff to my own business like made it a real business instead of just whatever whatever kind of Hey. I'll sell your stuff. Like drank. Drank Bone Kool aid and did the thing and built like a a premium private dawning business. And it's been going. It's been incredible so Found my my focus on peace. It's been transformational. I it's real. It's Don training disguises as personal development. And it's allowed me to apply my my street-smart salesmanship and persuasion skills. That were helped me be effective online with true leadership principles to lead people to a result with helping create a harmonious household with the dogs. And not I. I thought maybe people would want to do like protection dog sports. Do all this like. I've been doing hunting dogs stuff. I felt that other people would want A. Who am I to do this because I like to have one eight competitions but really the people just want someone who cares about them and helps them helped make their also harmonious home without the dog on their arm or biting somebody or are peeing on the floor or whatever so no I just it. Didn't it didn't require any kind of rocket surgery to figure out. Okay let me figure out who can pay me living wage to do this. Dog Training thing and apply marketing skills to get myself fully thought. Yes so you so you find yourself actually just doing basic family dog training more than you do the high level. Yes I I. I really thought that the high level stuff would sell or at least. That's where the money is you know and really it's it's Kinda. Like like bodybuilding people will do will spend all these thousands of dollars on supplements in maybe steroids or whatever to compete to get plastic little trophy a red ribbon or a blue ribbon. Whatever but really the. The money is in behind the scenes in it selling the supplements it selling advertising. It's it's not actually the thing that everyone sees hence the same thing with competitive dog training. Everyone sees like these fancy six hundred dollars each collars and all the gear and all these like all the dog crates all the fancy stuff but like the. That's where the money is is made and going to someone's home and helping them note if they're if they're a busy executives. Ceo of a company. They don't have time like the Times worth five hundred dollars. An hour takes no hours and hours to train the dog. They just say screw it. Can someone please just help me because this dog is chewing up a ten thousand dollar couch my last client like they had just spent twelve thousand dollars on Mulch with the dog? Tore up so that like I don't care what it costs. It can't possibly cost twelve thousand dollars so just trained his dog because he's destroying my ten million dollar home Mike. I could be right there when it's ten o'clock or two o'clock more convenient for you so it's it's been a lot of fun last set simple. Yeah I mean if you think about more more more of your normal families owned dogs and now don't get me started on the whole dog thing but we've had several dogs over the years to have a couple in you know I'm kind of done with the dog thing just from being tied down with them or whatever but most of the house at this point so you know they become somewhat of liability and they. They need a lot of attention. They need to be cared for in a traveling a lot and gone a lot so becomes an issue but I guarantee you their most people. Most people my neighborhood they go by a dog and then they throw it out in the backyard and let it bark all day long by their own all the neighbors and that's pretty much how they train their. Yeah and that's it's really. It's it's the kind of people that I'm after I'm selling aspirational. Hey Look you've got excellence and other areas of your life. Let's let's sell the magical moments of being a happy family with the dog. That's just picture-perfect comes called. It just adds to your life. It doesn't destroy your home and it teaches your kids how to be disciplined and whatever. I'm selling this a bigger concept. Besides just you know that these people don't want to compete with the dogs. They just want to come home at the end of the day. Not have their shoes shoot up so confident they see me. I'm competitive like okay. Well I guess you could probably teach me teach the dog the dog to to not act like an idiot when. I'm just trying to relax after a long day. So yes so how much how much of it is training the dog versus training the dog owner. That's therein lies. The dog to be perfect in about three days. Now listen to me because the time the the art and science mechanical skill of that timing and the communication between teaching the dog how to act it. I can get done in like three days. It's it's teaching dog how to listen to the owner who may be a little awkward with their timing. I I make it look really easy and Hanson Else. The leash and they're like all over the place. I didn't realize it. You know ten years of making this thing. Look real easy There's a lot of subtlety that that they didn't get so yeah. It's it's mostly trading once once. The dog understands like the dog. Sit if he does not sit when the owner hands tells him to sit. Why is that? It's like So it's really teaching people how to communicate and be a leader in the in. You know not just in their home but in in other areas too. So it's it's teaching communication and empowering people were it's not like there's no magic dust dumb sprinkling on the dog or anybody. It's simply teaching them how to be be clearer with what they want from themselves from their dogs and so it is. It's a majority of it is training to people right. Hey hold on quick break. We'll pick uncertainty comes in many forms military life from unexpected changes and duty stations to sudden deployments. 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They're not easy their simple and you really should begin with just a legal notepad and a pen and write out. What are you really trying to accomplish? What makes different What what kind of prophets are you? Are you trying to make? What are what are you really? What what is the impact you're trying to do in all of this could be spelled out very simply on a piece of paper and unless you can explain the problem you're solving and how much that problem is worth to your target market. There's there's no sense in going any further when I was doing consulting and marketing stuff I. It was very clear to help people understand. What is the cost per lead? How much are you willing to pay per lead? What is the what is the percentage of conversion? Like how many people do you need to talk to before you make a sale? All that very simple stuff was just mind blowing to the companies. I work with now. I never understood why the the people the sales marketing and management were never on the same page by gave any one of them a whiteboard and marker and say how do you make this company money. Nobody can really explain it and they were all explain it differently so being very clear as the founder who who you are. What is that speaking military term? What what is the end state? What are you really trying to accomplish? And what do you? How do you do that for? Somebody like who is your market. It cannot be everybody and it can be very clear. How do you lead? And who do you serve? And what is the what is the value of what you sell and when you can if you solve bigger problems you'll get bigger paychecks and if just like the average dog trainer makes like twelve dollars an hour and I've been able to sell premium dog training services because very clear about who it is. I was working with the kinds of zip codes that they lived in. And exactly what? What do they really care about? And like I crafted that message to a very specific person and mine is typically if you look at my clients. They're there forty. Couple year old females. Who have the buying ability to spend lots of money on what they want so being very careful to help them. Champion like being the the kind of recognize that they are kind of the head of the household even though they're typically their their husbands are the the the CEO business owner type people. But but honoring these these people at being the preeminent provider of a service that they really care about helping them create a home that is peaceful for them in their kids in their husband and whatever so acknowledging them and making sure that these people are comfortable with me coming into their house and training their dog and being alone with these people in their expensive homes. All of that has to be very carefully laid out and spelled out in systems processes but all that came after taking a piece of paper and writing out who it is. I'm trying to help at. What is the value of the problem is solved in? How is it that you arrived at specific? I really the the the fact that you niche down to wealthy people in this neighborhood no I. It's it's a forty something forty something year old female head of the household more or less even even though she might be married that I'm going to be dealing with inner how you know that kind of stuff like when I started was getting restart. My podcast. People like well. Who's your target audience? I'm like well I guess I just about anybody. That's interested in entrepreneurship and ultimately niche down. Way Down to veterans specific entrepreneurship. And that was the best thing ever did. Because I was so general I wouldn't even whom talking to you was it. You arrived at that target audience. I originally thought I was going to sell to myself. I really thought I was going to go after this thirty five year. Old Hardcore sporting dog guy covered in tattoos. Who's the most disciplined dog trainer ever like? I thought I was going to sell to myself and then I wrote what have I spent. Is What actually spent money on have. I spent money on a super expensive dog trainer Molten. No I can't afford to So I I thought about It's not me and it's not the guy who who I thought I I had my focus on self employed entrepreneur types so again trying to to myself and like maybe you've got a kid and you're thinking about getting a dog but you work from home so you're not sure about whether you can. You can have a dog come in here and screw up. Your Life. I saw. That's I who is going. After I wasn't getting attraction is again the message market has to match and so once I finally really talked to who I talked a whole bunch of people who had dog problems who is actually pulling out the credit cards to pay for dog trainers. And how much are they willing to pay? Just just talking to the audience and finding out. Oh there's a pattern here that all these people I'm talking to are. They fit this this this Avatar. Whatever and how much I just started connecting the dots and seeing like stepping back in figuring out. Oh there she is and here's clearly what she wants. And let's find out what the price elasticity is like. How do I go find more of them? So yeah so. Can you talk a little bit of that in the beginning when you started executing your marketing plan or your how your Gra- gathered your first few customers because you're well in the dog training at this point but he had a big shift over to. Okay now I'm Gonna I'M GONNA do dog training for families. I mean when when that first started. Do you remember your first client. Remember the first few customers and how that came about. Yeah instead of going to a cold market and trying to convince people that they should trying to dogs. I went to a high end. Dog Food pet store. That's on the main street main strip of Austin Texas and so I went in there and and they said they've been approached by every dog trainer that you know because they've got this prime real estate premium business or whatever and they've been touched by every every kind of anyone who's associated with pets whatsoever wants up front them and so I came at them with a different angle. And understood that what they really care about and position myself as preeminent in there is in the is going to guard their brand guard their customers. I wasn't going to take anything from them and I and I said hey look you close at six thirty or six o'clock whatever Monday Wednesday Friday or during the week Monday through Friday and so between the hours is a six eight. You're playing rent on a facility that is generating you know income. I will come in and pay you. A percentage of whatever kind of training clients get and will operate in your pet store. Help sell your pet supplies pet food and I just want your help to get the name out about my company. And I'll pay you contingent fee on all my training clients that we will operate in your area and so it's a pure found money opportunity for you and approach them with a you know the background and the the value proposition at this is free money and it's Garbrandt effectively. Grow Your Business so that you're able to bring in clients in the off hours like that. Correct Oh wow. And then you'd like later you shift to training at their houses at some point or yes because that's actually a white people were willing to pay a premium to come to. We're willing to pay to come to a group class. But they want they ultimately want a level of service and they want to be That they're willing to pay for it so the class was a perfect fishing grounds for the individual clients correct. That's also I could say. Hey look if you like but people call me up and say how much you charge. Mckay looked. I'M NOT THE CHEAPEST OPTION. There's petsmart there's you know this other there's plenty of great train is around. Austin who will charge you know a hundred bucks an hour or whatever. I work with clients and providing a comprehensive approach that I guarantee you'll be satisfied with the the behaviors of your dog and it's going to create a bond for life in the China's GonNa stick forever and it's not going to nickel and dime you for every minute. I'm on the clock. I'm not gonNA create an adversarial relationship with you and your family and try to hold out on secrets of dog training. Let's just agree on on doing this month or two months program in your home. We're all come at your convenience and work with you and your family and create a customized program for what for your life's thousands. What can you tell me more about? What a dream come. True Dog looks like for you and then once they told me that I know exactly much like that was that was it otherwise. Go to pet like there's a takeaway sale kind of go to petsmart go to somebody who's GonNa die mu or Come to my category of one either group class. Where you're GONNA be embarrassed. Your dog really bad. You know you're gonna be by your peers. Were I can come into the to the into where the dog where you're actually are living and help create note sell sell the magical moment of like How you want your life to be and it's just sell them what they already sell people what they want to buy. So this like this. Why do you have a pretty much standard price your standard package for most households? Yes so so what is it? What does that look like right now? It's three thousand dollars a month or three times a week at for about an hour and you're for within fifteen minutes of my location downtown Austin and is typically that take one month or multiple months it. The dog will be transformed in about a month and near perfect into really so most people book you for three to six Grand Crat Nice. And you're the only trainer right right now. I am trying to hire someone who has both the people skills and the ability to train and be the dancing. Want you have to be funny and engaging because I'm like with kids I'm training was typical. They are they happen to be prior military. Men Typically I guess the kind of like hiring guys like me and mb comfortable around their wives. You know I have. I have trying to find somebody that I can hire out war. I'm just going to license my systems and processes around the country the sales scripts and all kinds of stuff so I can build more scale into my business and just be you know have programs for the I. I work with clients in Austin. But instead of creating a franchise around the world and trying to find these like unicorns people Just licensed to the to the really hungry dog training clients Dog Business Professionals and license my systems processes rather than some major franchise fees. I'm going to beat people up for not allowing or whatever some that's that's where my businesses going now. Okay so we are getting clean of our time How how do we do? We find you do we look under paradigm dog training. Had We look Yup? We're interested in either in your services or getting some. Somebody wants to reach out to you. Get some mentoring some advice on ruin the business or something similar. Paradigm Dog Training Dot Com. I'm all my contacts very easily. Found there but Eric at Paradigm Dog Training Dot Com. And I'm happy to answer any questions Whether it's fella better and trying to get into business Specifically dog training if they want pretty much anyone who wants just some straight talk from a fast rugged and irreverent kind of entrepreneur. You can look me up a pretty easy to find some way. We'll hear some great wisdoms and good good. Golden Nuggets Do I give you last last word? If you're talking to that veteran out there to transition looking for what kind of space? And they want to go into an entrepreneurship business ownership. What kind of advice would you have for him? Say What do you really want like what do you? What do you really want? The secret is that it's not about you and it's like Ooh do you want to be like you are a reflection of your clients. So who do you want to be? The hero to is a very important question to ask yourself. That's perfect I. What do you want the secret is? It's not about you. It's he. Serve dozen right great places. Great place to end. Thanks for sharing everything. Look forward to your future success. Thank you very much for me these. Tv veterans us. Mike Decree listening to veteran on the move. Your Pathfinder to freedom if you like to show leave us a review and I tunes reviews are always greatly appreciated so until next time. This veteran is Oscar Mike.

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The Military Money Expert with Lacey Langford

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The Military Money Expert with Lacey Langford

"Military family financial coach Lacy Lankford host of the military money. Show's coming up next on veteran on the move. Welcome to veteran on the move. You're a veteran in transition and entrepreneur. Wannabe for someone still stuck at that GOP trying to escape. This podcast is dedicated to your success. Now your host Joe Crane. The navy federal more rewards. American Express card now offers bed rewards than ever. You can earn three times. The points at supermarkets, restaurants, gas and transit visit Navyfederal Dot Org for more details into apply. All right today we're talking with Lacey Langford. The host of the military money show Lacey. Welcome to on the move for we get to talking about. Money and personal finance. You're active duty air force. You're still a military spouse, so take us back until which you did when you were in the air force. I was an information manager which is. Log Desk Work I'm not GONNA lie. I wrote a desk for a long time. I did a lot of reviewing, but I was pretty mean with a pen. I think what I was. On active duty, but yeah, it was more administrative what I did. While I while I was in, but I enjoyed it. It was great experience for me and I had. The huge blessing of having amazing mentors and leaders that I was under, so it made it for much more enjoyable experience. I think. And then. As you transition out of the air force. Talk a little bit about what your transition was like. Whether it was planned and if you fully prepared for what you're about to endeavor. I think my transition out can be described as a hot mess I definitely. Waited to the last minute to make my decision, I kept kicking. The can down the road, and at that time I was What twenty three? And just not really thinking about my future the way I should have been and I thought, I would wanna stay in than I was considering what you know. My parents wanted I was dating my husband at that time, so there was a lot of moving parts and I just wasn't focusing on what that was going to look like for me so I think I actually only gave myself I about a month. I actually had to sell back my leave because I couldn't even take leave. That's how little time I had left. So. I wish I would have looking back. Put more effort into what I was. GonNa do when I got out of the military? Really weigh those pros and cons between staying in and getting out, and what worked best for me, not everybody else around me. Those are things I think I would have done differently. I was going to school when I was on active duty, so it wasn't like I didn't have anything going on. I was just going to get out and do nothing I knew I was going to go to school, but I didn't know if I wanted to stay in a little bit longer and fiscal was on active duty or just go ahead and get out, so there was a lot of Just poor planning on my part. A very typical. How old were you when you went into the air force I was nineteen. So what? What? What? Nineteen Year old would twenty? Two twenty three year old thinks that far ahead in life so? Pretty common but so. You and I know each other quite well. Through some of the the USA, a digital influencers group we've been in and being being a military oriented podcast her and we saw each other once again down at podcast. First Week in March before the whole world came to an end and. We just mystic. We haul. Everything fell apart at that point so another this episode won't release till like mid June at this point, but it'd be interesting to see what the state the world is is then but. It was as good senior down at podcast, and you guys a chance to talk a lot. An or your husband? was in the army. and I think he's out now. What was your you kind of transition from you transitioned from the Air Force got out, but it probably wasn't too far after that you became a military spouse, and then you're going to school, so tell us a little bit about how you got into personal finance, and and eventually military financing and financial family military financial advisers. Yeah Well I. grew up luckily enough in a family that I was raised to spend less than I. Make and save now I'm not saying when I was nineteen and active duty that I listened to that, but I knew it I knew that's what I should be doing. when I started going to school, I knew I wanted to learn how to take our finances to the next level to learn how to invest and just really kind of build our wealth. And I actually married my husband on my spring break while I was in college at the University of North Carolina Wilmington, and he s he. It's true true military story is He asked asking me on Monday. We got married on Friday of my spring break so. Let's just go ahead and do this thing. Didn't meet on Spring. Break and then get married a couple of days later on spring break. You correct. It's not complete military you're. Just a part I really think you're the first person you're. The first person I ever knew that got married on college spring break. I'm sure there's but that's the first time I've heard that. Yes So so I was still going to school. We were living separate areas. Because at that point, he was still in the air force. He was stationed at Charleston Air Force Base, and then I was now a military spouse so i. finished up school I think probably within six months or a year in moved to Charleston and had a really hard time finding a job. I knew you know my undergraduate was in finance. so it kind of just rolled into a military spouse starting at cycle of struggling to find a job. Find a job that I was qualified for. That was in the field that I wanted to be in. There was lots of jobs that had nothing to do with finance. But and then we had children, and all that stuff happened, but then I always knew even though I was. GonNa have kids. I was always going to be working on this whole finance career I was just. GonNa figure out a way to make it work, so I became a follow kind of a certified financial planning path. I started I did that. When my husband was deployed for a year, I went to school for that got that done and kind of fell into started volunteering on army installations, helping people with their finances. But really still kept struggling with building my career around my husband's career. And that just was not working out. and. That is how I fell into. Entrepreneurship is that I just got so pissed off one day about that I couldn't have wanted because of the army in the career that I wanted I said to myself. I am going to build a business that I can take with me doing what I love helping people that I love. And I started my own financial coaching business, and then I was like I gotta start a website, because it's going to be online for so people be able to find me, and then it just started evolving from Nair so still keeping to the root of what I wanted. I wanted to be a financial coach and help the military community with their money I just had to kind of take a side path to be able to build that career along with the military lifestyle. And I know that any military spouses listening anywhere around the world. They all experienced the same thing. the reality is so many spouses can't have a normal career because they have to the military, the military members career. When when Sam says you're moving, you're moving you can't. You don't really have a choice most of the time in so the the the military spouse has to take their career has to not necessarily take second fiddle, but. has to be able to adjust to that and oftentimes depend with the group is. You know it doesn't work out that well. Unfortunately there are a lot of. Businesses and companies, even if even if you're stationed in an area where there's a lot of jobs available. A lot of employers are hesitant to hire you if you're military. Spanish, because you know, you're probably GONNA move, be moving into three years. And I know that a lot of military spouses have faith that, too, and then let's face it. There's a lot of military bases especially overseas where there are no jobs. Even you wanted to get a job. You can't get a normal job so. Talk a little bit about how you initially got started as a financial coach in in you probably sell you start off volunteering at first, and then you gradually got got some certifications, and you're able to work your way into actually being able to do it. Do it officially unofficial capacity in eventually start getting paid to do financial coaching for military families. I was lucky enough to be I think a servicemember. And I had the mantra of adapt and overcome and I think along the way every step when had an obstacle came to our family life, the military and doing my career that I just pivoted every time if I had to. Just there's a problem adapt and change to that. And when I started, I just started helping family and friends with money for free. That was just something that I was good at communicating with people being a coach, being a person and then having this money expertise, so that's really where it started I I think the biggest first step I did is I started investing club with all of my siblings and their spouses and I kind of headed up, and was the driving force, and we did all that talking about investments, and then I started coaching people. And then I started going on installations when I had some experience under my belt. To, do volunteer work. That was way to definitely keep me current and help me build my resume. But. It also really helped build my confidence as a financial coach. I say that sometimes you have to be bad someplace when you start out in your career like Comex, they go to dive bars to practice their their new stand up skit or musician. Start at a dive bar, little club with their. You know when they're learning to be an artist. And I feel like that's how kind of I was as a financial coach that young servicemembers the military community actually really helped me build my expertise and my confidence in helping people with their money in just learning better ways to communicate the problem and how to solve it and. To understand more more individual situations have compassion and empathy, so there's a lot of good that came out of it, but definitely volunteering and doing things for free was my beginning steps of my career, but then it led to other things that gave me the confidence to really build my business and start charging people what I was worth and start going into other areas where I'm. Doing freelance writing about military topics and money or I'm. With brands same thing talking about military money, so it led to a lot of other things, but I think those. Things in the beginning that you think are so frustrating that you have to volunteer or this is kind of the situation you're in really led me to some major successes with my career. Awesome. is going to break, and we'll be I bet. Did you know you can get an American Express card now with Navy. Federal Credit Union the Navy. Federal Rewards American Express Card is designed with your busy lifestyle in mind in the navy federal more rewards Merican. Express card now offers better rewards than ever. The more rewards card offers three times points on everyday purchases like three times, points supermarkets three times, point restaurants three times the points on gas and transit gas and transit means ride, shares, tolls, parking, lot, buses, and more you get. 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The biggest struggle people have is have leaving no room to pivot in their finances. There's no room for when things go wrong are the unexpected comes and. When I say there's no room to pivot is a combination of things they don't have an emergency. Money saved up. They have no financial fallback position. And then they're also maxed out, so they are high in debt. They don't have the money to toback things up. When things because that's what happens in life, things fall in your lap. It's not a question of if it's when and how much it's GonNa cost you when you're in the. The military. That's amplified. You have PCs. You have deployments. You have just normal stuff on top of all of the military life that comes your expected to work long hours with you know the pandemic people are working when they don't even want to be out kind of exposed to things, so you just never know what's GonNa come with military life, and when you're maxed out financially, that's a huge problem and when it comes to the debt. That's huge problem because of security clearances, so the majority of service members are required to have a security clearance to hold their job or be in their branch of service and one of the rules is you have to have your finances in order? If you don't have your finances or you? Could your security clearance revoked or suspended, and then that impacts your ability to do your job? If you haven't completely revoked, then you could lose your. Your job in the military, so you're different from your civilian counterparts at your finances are held to a higher standard so when you have those two things of being maxed out, and then not having any extra money on hand, it's a bad combination to have as a service member. Because just things are GONNA go wrong, and if you don't have the money to back it up, then it's. It's definitely going to be an issue for you. And then it's also a major stressor. Absolutely, well, so when when you first start talking with military folks Why do you? Why do you suppose? The the military families that you're dealing with waste. Posey ended up in this position like. Is it just a lack of? Just a lack of awareness like they grew up in never were taught money because we don't teach money in personal finance in in schools. We what's typically? Going on these days with with the military family. I think it's a combination of lack of awareness, but it's also not making it a priority. I feel like most people. If you sit down and just have the basics down, have a budget or not, even calling it a budget. You just need to have a clear plan. You need to do a layout just like you do. If you're going to deploy, you're packing lists. You gotta lay it all out and figure out what you have. What needs to go when he's stay and that's the same thing that happens with your money. You need to understand what is coming in and what is going out. Most people aren't even aware of that. So I think it's not even the financial education is big of a deal as it is understanding your own position. If you have a better understanding of your position than you're able to make better decisions that could help you instead of her you financially. But often? They don't know what's going on with their own money. And then they just keep adding on, so there's like okay well. We're going to go to target. We only needed to get You know toilet, paper or the basics and the end up buying new bedding, or you end up buying more toys and then Oh, well. We want to get the cell phone. That's out there going to upgrade their cell phone or getting a vehicle that they can't afford to make the payment on. On or or a real problem is, you can make the payment, but it's dependent on something like jump or dive pay you get hurt, and then you're not qualified to jumper dive, and now you can't make that payment because you're over extended. So that's a whole other ballgame never to depend on that money, but it's just not being aware of what's going on and using not to be able to make smart decisions and just be aware of your surroundings when it comes to money. Define most most of the folks that come to you. Come to you way ahead of time. You know trying to get ahead of things, liters and stuff, or do you usually deal with the families or the military members after things have gone wrong? It's when it's gone wrong or skin and ready to go severely wrong. I for example I had somebody to come into me one time, and they said I want to start planning for my retirement, and I was like all right. I was like winner. You plan on retiring and we're going to retire in two weeks. L.! That's great. I'm glad you came in. Because you want people to come in and talk to a financial person and get that that help that they need, but probably could have helped you. A lot more came in two years before this. That's how long you should be planning for your transition or retirement. Financially you should be planning that far out. And, so it's Really when it becomes a pain, point for somebody is when they're really willing to reach out for help, there's. My brother has the same as like. How bad does it have to get? How bad does it have to get before you're? You're willing to to do something about it. And unfortunately it gets bad, and then they'll come in, but sometimes you have people that are being proactive. They're wanting. They've done the right things saving their money. They're spending less than they make, but now they don't know what to do with the money I. Don't know how to put it in the throw savings, plan or put it in A. A 401K, they don't understand how to setup. an educational savings account for their children, those type of things so there are people I would say. It's kind of one extreme or the other. They've done the right things. Don't know what to do next or they've got a huge problem in their lab. Can you talk a little bit about through savings plan in in the new active duty retirement plan because it used to be fifty percent of base pays what you would typically retire at at at twenty years. That's changed, so talk to us a little bit about that. And what's the new folks need to be aware of? Its reduced now with the blended retirement system so anybody coming onto active duty now or into the military. That is the blended retirement system is their retirement system now? The old one is now called the legacy system. It sounds really fancy, said call into the old one, the content the legacy. Legacy. makes. You sound like fancy, but with the legacy I mean with the blended retirement system now is give members the opportunity to save using a combination of a pension. which is the way the legacy system is, but also now people can contribute to the thrift savings plan, which is an employer sponsored or military sponsored. retirement plan, but they'll give contribution so if you give money now vel invest money into your Tsp prior to that you did have the ability to save using the thrift savings plan, and also received your pension, but the Department of Defense did not match those contributions then. And they are now and thrift savings plan is the equivalent of civilian 401k or four three or four five seven plan. It allows you to put your money towards a retirement. The the problem is not really a problem, but just something different now than a pension, more people are having to become a come aware of is that you have to have some skin in the game when it comes to saving money for your thrift savings plan with a pension. You don't have to give any money. You just do your time and then when you retire, you receive your monthly payments. And that's the way it's part of the still the majority of your. If you do twenty years with the blended retirement system, you're still going to receive that pension. It's just going to be reduced, but now they're giving some money toward your thrift savings plan because they want to have people start contributing money toward their retirement as well but. You have to make those monthly contributions to your throw savings plan to to reap the rewards of that, so it's it's a change It's taken some adjustment for people, but there's opportunity there to really help your money. Go a little bit further depending on how you haven't invested, but it's a great way to further. Build out your retirement money. Yes, so so you're actually you can. You can get a match. If you contribute to. The through savings plan, they'll give you guessed in. The match up to? Ten percent. Matches five percent, so if you give five, they're gonNA give five four percent is A. The matching contribution one percent is. A minimum that they give to everybody. So, they give one percent no matter what if you don't put anything in correct? And then. So ideally you should put at least five percent into get the full five percent. Match. Yes, it's free money is. A four, okay matching. If you don't put money in yourself, you don't get the match. Oh. Yeah, you'd be crazy to pass up. Free money gets. Yeah you get the one percent automatic and. The four percent for the match okay, and then they've expanded the number of options that are in the through savings plan. We're kind of funds and stuff. You can put it in over fears since it started right. I don't know the last time they updated it. They've been the same for a little bit I think in the future they will add more so they have the the five funds, and they have the life cycle funds, so the lifecycle funds are similar to target date fund for civilian, but basically they are Work they adjust the money for you. So as you get closer and closer to retirement, they reduced the risk and therefore you. And also the you know the allocation, the percentage that are going towards socks, the percentage that are going towards bonds with the other ones. You pick individually which funds that you want to go into, so there's like the iphone which is international stocks. They have the G. Fund which has government securities when you and I came in or actually I don't even know when you came in, but. When the Thursday is plan originally started. If you set it up, it automatically defaulted to the g fund. If you never went in and adjusted your investments, it's stayed there for a long time. Now it defaults to the life cycle fund closest to your sixty second birthday. Cool yeah, and you know the advantage of the blended retirement system is. If you get out after four years or ten years or whatever? You get to take you get to take that. Whatever it is you put in and whatever it is. They matched. You get to take that with you. Whereas old system, you walk away from the pinch getting for the pension. It's gone. Sh yes it I think. The statistic was before the R. was started over eighty percent of people that served walked away with no retirement with nothing, no retirement when he whatsoever which is a huge problem especially. Your the people that were doing eight ten years. And they are working towards retirement, but then never gave to the savings plan, so they had nothing, so they're already behind the curve on saving for retirement and time is the biggest factor that you need on your side when you're saving for retirement. Well so so lacey Tell us a little bit about where we can get in touch with you Where do you hang your hat? As far as your financial services in in your family? Your Family Financial Coaching Business. Yes so if you want to have the podcast all these things that we're talking about I talk about on this show anyway to make save or invest money wisely or things that I cover and US anywhere podcast found for the coaching. If you're interested you can email me info at lacy link. DOT COM s lacey within e or check out on the website Lacy Langford Dot Com. I have all the information about. How to work with me if you just WANNA. Read and learn more about finances in the military outlets articles there and then the podcast is also there was shows on various topics and some on the thrift savings plan. Awesome is a little bit more about about the podcast. You're we can find. The military money show in like you said anywhere that podcast or hanging out so. How often do health and you put out a new episode? Every Monday. A new show comes out and. So. Is something interesting? I really liked talking about money. I try to make it approachable and practical for people, so money's not so intimidating and so boring so I try to have a little bit of fun with it, and it's usually just you talking about the good things about various financial aspects. Yes majority though I do interview other people to make it a little bit more dynamic things that I think will be important or valuable, especially, if it's out of my skill, set or more detail, I bring in an expert to talk about it like talking about the economy grow threes. Those type of things I'm going to bring in somebody else. To talk about those I've had experts on about investing about the transition out of the military. What that looks like for a lot of people? They don't know how to start all of those things like your Four K., what the benefits are for medical, those type of things I did a whole series on how to approach that. Like what do you do when you get this huge HR packet? When you get out of the military, which is something? A lot of people would like to know even if you never been in the military, it's still overwhelming to figure all that out so I. Try to bring in some fun people to discuss it all. That's awesome. Way Lacy. We're getting close to time here wanted to give you. An entrepreneurship side of things You're active duty service member yourself military spouse. If you talk to those folks in the military community that really want to check out entrepreneurship really have a desire for business ownership. What kind of advice would you have for him? I would say start doing your research now. The Sky is the limit I. Wish I would have known so much more about entrepreneurship got out like I would have been light years ahead, but just I feel like service members have that skill set to go all in and to make sure you're doing it right. The first time and I think doing research will go a long way for you to take those steps to do it right, but also to understand the possibilities of. Of the things that you could be doing when you get, get out when it comes to entrepreneurship, because so many things we want to be making money off of a podcast, or you want to be making muffins or you. WanNa be making money selling dietary stuff. Anything is possible so I think doing your research your homework, and then talking with people that are actually executing those things will be helpful. They can tell you all hard lessons. They've learned so you can avoid them. Well he lacy Appreciate you being here. He share some excellent. Golden Nuggets encourage everybody to check out your podcast in You also Lacey Langford Dot. com right is is Is Your personal website? Yes, okay, awesome! All right lacy will appreciate it and Thanks for Hope Siegen soon sometime in thanks for being on the show. Thanks for having me. All right, these veterans are Oscar Mike. Listen veteran on the move your pathfinder freedom if you like to show. Review in kids reviews early. Greatly appreciate it. So until next time, this veteran is Oscar Mike.

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Taking Care of Your Own

Veteran On the Move

19:01 min | 7 months ago

Taking Care of Your Own

"Welcome to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition and entrepreneur wannabe for someone still stuck at the GOP trying to escape this. Podcast is dedicated to your success. And now your host job bring have you checked out. American forces travel yet. American forces travel is an exclusive website powered by priceline bill for veterans and active duty. Check them out at veteran the move dot com slash travel our back talking with retired Brigadier General. Tom Brady. Us Marine Corps. Call sign sage so sage. What if you could talk to us a little bit about taking care of your own and in the context of when you first learned as a when you're to Kademi and early is a young officer in the Marine Corps. What was your experience with taking care of your own. Yeah thanks Joe and down. I think this is a critical part of leadership. Never leadership talk that. I've given boil it down to two things -CCOMPLISH submission and take care of your troops. And sometimes they can be in conflict the other day in class this game up and all of that Maybe shortly but at the Academy of when I was there as a midshipman and then later as a company officer the disadvantage we had was We did not have enlisted senior enlisted integrated into the brigade that is assist the officers so a lot of that relationship officer to enlisted. We just had to kind of pick up on her own and then later at basic school as reinforced. But I guess at boil down to one of the things that I I learned some when a first sergeant said To me AH I. I don't care what you know as long as I know that you care and that may seem kind of a clever plan words but it's it's really the essence He knew that coming out. Basically School I knew a lot about the tactics instructor and so forth of the Marine Corps. That's the beauty of the basic school for. But that other part I guess has to either be inherent or it's learned and it's it's it's best. I guess if it's inherent but it can certainly be learned in that is to give a damn about your people and it's a kind of a balance because you're talking about people that has combat leader your schoon ascend into harm's way and those that Sun Tzu talked about the EU treaties zone beloved sons. You're putting them at risk. So how can you care about them if you're exposing them to death? But that's a set the challenge of of leadership of a combat leader of again getting the job done but taking care of the troops. I the first Part of it is simple. And that is Know who they are. I mean it's easy for them. They've only got one to ten or one. Captain is a case may be but it's important that that you know who they are and that maybe takes a little bit of work in some are better at that than others but I can no straight at best buy story of when we had a reunion on my rifle company This is years after he'd been Vietnam and ice showed up as an active duty colonel at the time. But to the minds of my troops I was still the captain still skipper. And of course. In my mind's eye they're still PFC's lance corporal although they're Kinda Gray and perhaps if editor coupons but you know we just went back in time together and anyway George Martin walked up and said Sir you know I. It's great to see against Jim. Remember when when when I showed up reported my company is not know Georgia really. Don't he said no? No don't you remember you're standing there talking. And then all of a sudden there's all kinds of noise and explosions and screaming and hollering and so forth in New Tournament. Said Martin. I'M GONNA be Kinda busy here. Good jumping that whole and when all of this is over we'll talk some more. I said. No Georgia I don't remember we. Why do remember what's the big deal? George now is really hurt. He said Sir the big deal a big deal was you knew my name. You knew my name. You're telling me that George Martin got blown away that day. Somebody would know that. He went out as a fighting marine. You knew my name I just. I've always lashanda that that. That's a critical point of knowing the name of of your troops. It's a great beginning but sometimes We overlooked at but so that's the first next year their welfare And you can't make it easy for them conditions but you can make them as good as you can and try to set the example of of being willing to share the hardships of your troops. You know as a leader in combat. You don't have a more refined fighting whole a in a with a with wallpaper enough fours and so forth but you gotta be there And again it's it's the business of of showing up. You know ninety percents of success. What he ellen said is showing up and that's That's what it's gotta be You can pretend to care but you can't pretend to be there and that's I think in another necessary aspect of demonstrating that you care about the troops. You can't from a distance say Jay. This is going on or that's going on You gotta be there where you can sit and do something about it. And every officer has the opportunity to use his authority in may be limited secular tenant. But he's still the officer and still he can get things done that can benefit our make life better for the troops as they prepare for for their mission so those would be just a first initial thoughts of knowing who your troops are and then showing up being there at the time in a when when they're digging fighting holes and the officer shows up suddenly that becomes important My dearest friend General Krulak he had Second Force Service Support Group Would show up in his coveralls. When troops are changing oil on the vehicles think how important changing oil became when the commanding general's showed up and was wanting to get down there and dirty with them as well Some people say well this kind of Hokey thing I can tell you. It just speaks volumes about caring enough to to show up and and to to see what would your troops are doing and to as best you can make What they're doing a bit easier or more productive and so I think those are the aspects of carrying the other. Things are getting fed getting promoted. I mean all those things are part of the officers responsibility into that can't be shirked and that can't be passed off to the edge and under arts of the personnel officer or somebody else is the leader who's got a care about as people demonstrate has carrying by What what he does or what he feels to do. Well a phenomenal eloquent way of explaining taking care unit for firsthand experience. So we're gonNA take a quick break and We come back. We're GONNA talk a little bit about how you've taken taking care of your own out of the Marine Corps in an it's incident sector as a college professor will be right back if business travel coming up vacation time or you're going on leave. 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You've actually had some experience taking that concept out of the military and into the savane sector and a number of different ways and what you're doing currently is as a college professor. Can you talk a little bit about what you've done or how you've taken this concept taking care of your own into the into the world of? Teaching College Kids Shirley Joe Yeah it's a amazing. When I got out of the Marine Corps I was really concerned of what was I going to do as an infantry officer I knew how to use things and people and so but in think there's much need for the billion but as fortunate enough to To land a job with USAA which focuses on the military families and so forth so it does seem to be a good fit. But the other is that I was the first Corinne retired general officer to come to. Usaa Verma Konare Force Organization there in San Antonio and a great outfit My days with UCA. I absolutely loved the Great Leader's not great people But primarily air forsell bit army navy and now comes this marine. So what is this? GonNa be off so I guess the first thing I realized is that The things that I had learned As about leadership are translatable into the civilian world now obviously a different mission That goes without saying but but they're still listen mission. Our mission was to provide the best products and services we could to to our numbers not customers but members because they are member members of your organization of UCI and their families and to be there when they're having difficult time so you know A loss of some kind or pcs move which can be really. You're shattering are rubery stressful to families. But these things that that I had experienced and I thought gee this an opportunity to To translate this so I think long I had was As charges support services and one things told me after I had gone there. It was You're going to be in charge. The Fiesta and I said Gee that's that sounds was a fiesta. By well we bring in a bunch of people and is yesterday for percent tournus agree how many people you expect Run five thousand or so. Okay all right. Thanks so To prepare for this Various folks building your little stance and so forth again. You can pretend to care but you can't pretend to be there so I go on Saturday and I'm wandering around and talking to people and find out what's going on and one guy is looking at me really. Kinda strange and I. I walked over to him. And I said you're a marine right. And he popped to attention. Here's heels click and so yes sir. How do you know that Sir as well I kind of guessed it but You know how you doing. I said Listen I've got a bunch of stuff. That friend of mine recruiter sent me. Oh why don't you come by my office Monday and And will confess. Oh yes there will be some rules on. There's no sign of an so. I paged him. Which really they've used in trouble. Sushi shows up. You know kind of peak around the corner when enjoys come on man and so I passed on some of the stuff term it. And he's he's looking at all of this and with tears in his eyes he said. Sir Are we gonNA have a Marine Corps birthday here and I said of course. You'RE GONNA have Marine Corps birthday him. Who got some rains it? We got two marines. That's all we need for Burton. Of course I didn't clear that with anybody but but as one of those things Joe that when you have instincts that say this is the right thing to do. you just have to not give wrapped around the axle asking permission because sometimes for people to decide. They've got to go through all the ramp. This is the right thing to do so we did so. We had our first marine corps birthday and because of that then USA. Well Gee since the Marines Having their birthday all the services will have their birthday so they used a veteran's day the eleventh of November so the tenth to that. But the point was you know. Here's a marine that the Dow was working honestly wanted to have the marine birthday celebration proud of Viscera Jr. and so. That's that's what we did. The other is that Again following the lead that I had of of Getting you dirty I. I went out in Worked on the on the cars because the vehicles part of my responsibility. You'll appreciate this. I went out to the airplanes which are also part. Usa responsibility got a chance to to replace things a generator and realized how difficult it is to work on. An I'd worked on cars little bit before but there's not much room in her plane and it came out with busted knuckles and so and I'm sure that afterwards though the mechanics michener that I didn't screw it up but but but the point was there I am in coveralls seeing what they did again an idea of what the ask him. You know How how can we make things better? Do you have any ideas? Any thoughts and so forth then to get that direct feedback The same way I would in the Marine Corps to appeal of C What do you think of this idea? What do you have any thoughts hard? We can make this better to get that feedback and not that every idea is going to be a good one but but people appreciate being asked and tavern important so often I I realized that and with any kind of change we automatically get into the how. Here's what we're going to do and so forth and I read a great book not just pass on to heaven. Anyone called man's search for meaning by Viktor. Frankl this book. changed my life and. I wish that I'd read it Much much earlier but in it he makes the statement that if you can explain the why most people can live with the how. Yeah if you'RE GONNA explain the why was people can live without. But how often in the Marine Corps in USA all through my life you know the bosses The the the heavy say here. We're going to make a change in. Here's we're going to do without explaining the Y you know what? What is it that we're trying to accomplish? Show me the picture. It doesn't tell me the why of it. What is it GonNa look like you know? How are we going to do? And so forth. But D- automatically get into the how without your take nest of explaining. Why just never made sense to me so that I think it was one of the things that I kind of picked up from. The Marine Corps passed onto druther OFFICE. I've had an opportunity to lead so those are just some of the things that I did Again getting around to know the people and to establish you know the boss who sits in his office is is is making a terrible mistake because if he sits there waiting for people to come in and see him. Many people not do that. Right gotta go out to you. GotTa show that you're assessable that you're willing when I had the two offices and Sacramento and then it's in here in Tampa My wife and I go in on Saturday morning now when we started the extended hours and I walked ron and employs a state. What are you doing here Tom? There's another aspect. I wasn't general. Jody to them. I was Tom Because I didn't want my previous rank to somehow be a barrier in our relationship and our Communications so what? Are you doing Tom and I said well? I'm I'm here because you're here. What do you mean by that is all? You're giving up a Saturday morning. Are you working on Saturday morning because we need you? The least I can do is to show up and demonstrate by my presence that I appreciate what you're doing and it was like Holy Mackerel. You know what a strange notion that one of the people who are on charge of us This showing up to To show his appreciation. And you know that's an again people see what has kind of gimmicky thing and so forth. I don't think so again you can. You can send memos and e mails and so forth. I love you care about you and so forth. Nothing is a substitute for showing up a quick story High School Basketball Player. All American went to college is an all American. I mean just a phenomenal player. His mother attended every game that he played. His mother never saw a single game that he played why she was blind. Wow Gee what did you blind? What does that mean well? The important thing wasn't that she saw him who said he saw her every game up in the stands demonstrating by her presence that she cared. You know that that's not asking a lot of a leader that that you take time from your scheduled to to show up those things that are important to to employs a birthday anniversary. Whatever if you get an invitation to something as a as a leader go. I don't care what it is your the people you're privileged to lead. Thought enough of you to invite you then by. Golly you gotta go Is it just part of? I think demonstrating that that you give a damn bottom well We're getting close in the time for this episode We are going to continue this conversation about taking care of your own I wanted to get to your experience. as you've taken this concept into being a college teacher college professor but I think the interest just keeping them trying to keep these around fifteen minutes. We'll just do a continuation in in continued that this discussion onto the next episode. So thanks again. Sage in these two veterans are asking. Mike listen a veteran on the move. Your Pathfinder to free tube if you like to show review and I tunes reviews are always greatly appreciated so until next time. This veteran is Oscar Mike.

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Creating Music with Brandon Mills

Veteran On the Move

35:45 min | 2 months ago

Creating Music with Brandon Mills

"Marine veteran star the bachelor show. Listen to your heart and now Nashville Musician Brandon Mills is coming up next on better on the move. Welcome to veteran on the move if you're a veteran in transition and entrepreneur WANNA be somewhat still stuck in the GOP, trying to escape. This podcast is dedicated to your success. And now your host Joe Crane. Federal members earn and save more year, an average of two hundred ninety nine dollars more just by banking with Navy Federal Credit Union when you're navy federal member, the more you're in the more you win to learn more about all the ways you can earn and save visit Navyfederal Dot Org. Today we're talking with Brandon Mills from Brandon Mills Music Brandon You got a real cool story came about. The music business kind of long winded roundabout way, but before we talk about music and what you do doing these days. Take us back until it's what you do when you're in the Marine Corps. Shore, so I joined in two thousand four. Believe it or not with my older brother, we went to boot camp together That's a pretty unique story. We went. We both became squad leader, as so we got our asses consistently every day I was a great journey we separated, I went up to three of became an assault, three, fifty one and I went to Afghanistan with them our first. First Combat Mission was operation red weeks so most people know that through lone survivor I got back. My brother would keep calling me. He got pulled into recon recom- baby. Right out s ally, so he called me and said listen. talked to a lot of grunts. You need to be over here ads so soon as I got back from Afghanistan I signed up. It took the in dot. side-on with the first reconnaissance went through preview RCB B. R.. C.. Benchley got through a sniper scored with them, and we deployed to Luge in two thousand seven did that to got out, and then didn't know what I was GonNa. Do like a typical. Veteran, who had done quite a bit in, and was Kinda lost in the transition. So what I wound up doing is traveling the world for almost two to three years doing nonprofit work, so I went to Africa worked in orphanages. There I went to the middle. East that work in the Palestinian refugee camps. I was thinking I I'm thinking looking back? I didn't really know what I was doing I think I was trying to serve and restore and repair would I would have been taken away from being what I had taken some humanity from from the world, and so that took me on a crash course to. Learning how to love again, learn how to love myself learning how to love humanity define the good in it, because I'd seen so much of the evil and that was a big restorative process Then I took a job in Hawaii I think of. Utterly a mindset of lack. Of believing that, there wasn't enough for me to do music yet, so I wound up taking a contracting gig in Hawaii making six figures living on the beach. I had everything I thought I had as far as the American dream. You know and I still wasn't satisfied so I. believe in a creator or incident intelligence, whatever you WANNA call it and so I was praying meditating I said what's going on here? I'm not really happy, but I have everything I thought I'd want and. Felt like God showed me this verse in proverbs. It says the hope is deferred. You're heart is sick and I just felt like a conversation and said Hey. Your heart is sick, accredited to be an artist crazy to be a musician specifically, and you're doing everything, but so if you WANNA step up I'm GonNa go ahead and bless you, but I need you to take that first step and kind of like a Lee Satan in some regards so. Pack. My bags sold everything except by houses and moved from Hawaii live on the beach to New York City brush doubles every type of ethnicity and culture limited Manhattan. Yeah, it was I. Tell People is probably the most dramatic transition you can have it living in the same country you know, so. It was a solid kick in the ASS. I I called New York the boot camp of humanity. Yeah man you sleep. You have patients until you're stuck on a subway train with like fifty strangers in and the lights allowed, and you don't know who you're talking to. And who your next deals up. It was a beautiful transition. It really helped me with my music of definitely an observer of humanity and nature in general night tend to put that into music. So that was a great place to develop that skill. got a degree in audio engineering music production. gigging around a New York and taking different gigs I could see fit. I did some wet as it did some some things like that but I was a little burnt out by New, York the energy there. That's for choir to live. There is a lot in. There's definitely a lot of sensory overload and I felt like my time. was done of New York spent five years there in Manhattan learned a lot loved. It still love it. Have Budget family and friends for life, but I felt like my next best move was national Tennessee so I moved here back in February. I'm sorry. I last February Twenty nineteen, so I've been here just over a year and things starting to go right for me starting to go well. I got cast for a reality. TV show. Listen to your heart. It's part of the bachelor franchise. The first season they did it I was the joke around that I was the token guy on the show that they needed one guy? Olympics meets, but we got the data bunch of beautiful women and perform with them, and it was absolutely remarkable. Experience got national TV exposure and everything has been continuingly of progressive from there like I think part of the reasons that we're. We're having this conversation. Today is because of the show, and so yes, it's been an honor to have the struggle in the journey. Take it any other way. I feel like my my. I'm in the music. Industry has been very much like the marine. Corps you know Kinda like the Stepchild who work a little bit harder than everybody else. Does it know exactly how to navigate this? Stubbornness and the optimism to to continue to pursue it and push forward. Yeah, we were you always a musician or this can lead to. Great Question Up, so I started playing the saxophone in fourth grade. Would they sat us down a band? They play pig instrumentals exacts. That's for sure that's the sexiest one BIPARTI. Start playing that get obsessed with it I will go down to my basement for two hours a day three hours a day. Just play scales is loved it a fast forward in. Probably, high schools ninth grade saxophone was no longer cool. Being banned longer cool, and so my ego, happy drops at at took a Bass Guitar, a rock and roll band. That's where all the ladies were at that time. And then around sixteen picked guitar once I started singing that was it for me. once I started being able to sing with my boys, which is I would consider my primary instrument and creating songs that I could express my emotional point of view. I guess That was it to be so I. Did that all through high school? All through the Marine Corps I wrote a lot of songs in Afghanistan Iraq. I would sneak down to the chapel. We had time off in between missions, and I would write out songs and and that really kept me grounded kept me a fuller can be very beautiful medicine and healing arts for me, and you know I recommend for veterans anywhere. have a have art. That is of medium for your emotional state I. think that's one of the most beneficial thing somebody can do whether it's you know making knives, or it's painting or doesn't. Matter is how something Savak creative outlets really really healthy so? That kept me alive in Afghanistan. In Iraq I think it helped I've talked to a lot of guys that I was served with in a said. You know some of my best memories were listening to you. Play Guitar Distinct Song the corner of the of the of the huge, so that was pretty cool. looking back learning about that I've been doing it ever since mended. It was I always I never had the balls to to really push out in. Go for toll I was always this passive You know hobbyists. And then after I had everything I thought I wanted. The finances the House on the beach, the girls of I was still empty, and so I said I'd rather go fail at the and do something that allows them than. Sit By and sit back and just let life pass me by yeah. So. What do you think your initial goal was or what were you thinking? What were you trying to do by making the big shift to go all in with music where you? Just need to do it. You see what happens or you like okay I'm going to try to become a recording artist were was drinking. I mean I wanted to go full full in. You know I still have have A. Optimistic Hopes of being an Edgier type figure I would love to be on a global scale of the national scale, international scale, but I think you know what it was more than anything. It was that I don't WanNa live my life in fear. Don't want to be controlled by fear and I'm scared that I could fail at this music thing because it's in all. Reality is maybe one percent can make it successfully on the level that we would consider success. And also I was I was, and I have no I have no judgment towards these men, but I was sitting across the table for men in their fifties, who had done twenty years in the military, and then took really cushioned Contracting Job and they were just I felt like they were dead. They weren't growing. They weren't reading. They weren't exploring. They weren't conquering. Fears have become very very stagnant very very complacent, and that just looked ugly to me. I said I. DON'T WANNA be that human being I don't want to look back in I. Five Look back at thirty years and of that person I'm going to seal it earlier. I had the same time when I when I retired from the mccray. I'm not a little bit different scenario. I I did have A. Job I've been furloughed from after September eleventh to go back to so. I had that option, but I just remember seeing. There's no way I'm doing the defense contractor I can't. Not Want to be around it. Nothing I just I just had other entrepreneurial desires, pursuits, and I felt like I. I felt like if I went into that I would have been in the same boat I just would have been. Dead inside I would've. quit growing in no. Great Steady paycheck all the time. But you know know you know upward mobility, no opportunity for growth or anything like that, so I can absolutely yeah So, we're about to midway point. We're GONNA. Take a quick break Break. We'll be right back and when we come back, I'm going to start getting into the the entrepreneurial ASP. 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Tie Tie that in a little bit with some of the skill sets. You learned with deal with people in the Marine Corps. Mission Accomplishment Institute of this and those kinds of things, and how your experience as a veteran has helped her hindered you. Making making your way into the music industry. Yeah, that's a great question. I think first of all the biggest takeaway from the military for made Marine Corps specifically was just being tenacious, being self discipline and being I. Call Myself Stubborn Hope I'm still hopeful. It sounds almost impossible to make it in the music industry, but it's not It requires building the right team. preparation communication these things. Things have implemented within the studio. Aspects studios are expensive. You know unless you're doing in your basement, which which I'm not doing it with a group of highly skilled individuals, and so I kind of take command of the situation, I make sure that everybody knows they're part. Make sure that we communicate effectively. I went to school for Audio Engineering and music production. So that was a beautiful of. Opportunity to learn the language. Recording artists and the engineer are usually speaking two different languages so being able to have effective communication in the studio and get your point across when the you know, the Mike is is recording, or you're doing another take and having that communication is really really beautiful, and that's something that I developed the Marine Corps that's. For, sure of another thing for that, that was a huge victory for me. I've just started Jim quits. Book called limitless, and he talks about getting rid of negative self-talk, and that's something that I've struggled with a lot of my life, and I think that's something for whatever reason the military, because a pure accountability. Maybe we're sometimes too hard on herself. Learning to love yourself, learn to give yourself grace, compassion empathy, and just continuing grinded out of knowing that. If you're not comparing yourself to anybody else BA throwing, comparing yourself to who you were yesterday, then you can know how to how to evolve in how to progress. Think that's been some of the biggest victories for me. It's great so like some of the people you're currently working with or or may have worked with in the recent past has has have any of them, said Because when you started talking about I I come in I take control of the situation and. He's like Oh. He's a fire team leader here here. He Goes I. Have you had any of the guys? You know women to get people you're working with. In the in the music. Industry. Like key in on the fact that I can tell you a marine I can tell your military guy in like in a positive way. Definitely. Yeah I've had a lot of people. Don't like wow, man. You're very like consistent and concise. Communicator, which is something I value which is something that you learned in the military like? Everywhere counts every direction matters timeliness, clear and concise communication is absolutely effective. Remedy exactly and I think I think also being confident enough to take charge. There's something weird. I don't want to diss musicians or something weird about some musicians that are kind of. Take a step back I. Don't know how to authoritative I'm not saying that that's always the case for the Camby. I I also went to school when I was twenty eight. Most of the kids were twenty, one, twenty, two there still getting their. Feet underneath them in the continent up speed authoritative with love and respect always at building that team of people who know how to listen to know how to communicate effectively. people have definitely noticed and they've appreciated I think it surprised a lot of people I look a lot younger than I have and nobody really thinks. RECON SCOUT SNIPER BECAUSE I don't really care myself that way, but yeah, it's been. It's been highly effective to have. All of these skill sets that I learned in nineteen year old ban and bring that into the into the music industry. Absolutely all right cool so What are some of? The. Breakthrough moments you've had since since she started with be since you came to Nashville or when you finally when he moved to. New York like some of this break, free moments like. Oh, we we! We landed a big IG or Ended a big record contract, or those kinds of things short short, so I would say some I small victories. I would get worse in in new. York I was This goes back to maybe the the tenacity of marine I would just walk door to door in Manhattan and and go businesses in bars like. Do you guys have music if you do? How do I get books? If you don't why not, and can I can I bring something in bringing the whole? PA SYSTEM SET UP. Bring in a bunch of people that WANNA drink beers. And spend some money and so. With my ability to do that wound up. Booking gigs regularly throughout Manhattan which is a really busy competitive marketplace. That led up to started I started performing in a Hyatt's in square, which is just pure chaos and they were doing this was did a bunch of soft openings for them when they finally WanNa do their grand opening. They invited Jason Derulo. WHO's really famous hip hop, artists, millions and millions of dollars, followers strengths, and they asked me to open up for so that was a huge victory for me, and that was strictly be intonation is going door to door and ask in companies. Do you want like Buzek? Can I provide that I'll do a damn good job and. Your you know your prophets will will if of. You. When you moved to New York or read deployed different kinds of music. Yeah I mean it's so hard to find my, or I would consider myself like folk pop, Indie things like Jack Johnson, or luminaires or buffeted sons kind of down home stuff. pop focused, but very much storytelling lot of wide open spaces. They might production I like I like to be moved by one instrument one one voice. You know obviously not limited to that, but I think that's the mark of a true musician. If you can move somebody with the simplicity of all that At least that's by Bob So, yeah, never really been country. Some people might consider me country. It's funny. These lines get so blurred with within genres. I think we're all borrowed from each other now. Coming out, it's like. reggae s with Banjo and it's been. It's been fun being creative It's hard to to cut through the noise in this in this industry, but I think we're having some success at it. You see there's a lot of country music. That's not even very country anymore. Some people. That's I think that's has attributed to the popularity of country. Music is because it's gone more mainstream has of pop mixed. That kind of thing a lot of. The original country people don't like it. 'cause sounds too much like pop. That kind of thing, so yeah, that's excellent, Mexican restaurant yesterday and I heard Mexican wrap it was. It was it was in Spanish and it was had the Mexican kind of music theme to it, but it was like rap and. Although like I wonder if the songs popular I heard a couple of the waitresses. Singing along with it. You know as they walked. This must be a popular Mexican racks. Ever heard Mexican wrap so. so just a little bit about what's going on with you. These days in Nashville sure. Yeah, so I moved to Nashville and somebody hits the about instagram. Two months after I moved here. They said Hey. We're doing the TV show national TV show about a musician's single musicians who are trying to find love and trying to sign maybe musical partners. Wound up. Being a bachelor franchise wasn't aware of it. I went through a few interviews with them. I got You know what I jokingly say. It's oaken veteran spot on the show. Came in had a really good time with everybody. learned a lot less than some the hard way, but I got to perform in front of people, Jason Razz Katcha. Toni. Braxton Andy Grammer. It was just a dream come. And I got to meet some of the coolest people in my life that are still friends with all of them. It was a beautiful experience, and that has provided a lot of opportunity here in Nashville. I've been There's been some songwriters songwriter with me. people that I would not have had opportunities to Get in contact with this national attention, so I'm grateful for it. All Man We just dropped to single. Let's see a May twenty nine, so that was Friday and it's getting a lot of good airplay. Pop Rap did a exclusive on it. We're GONNA drop video in two weeks, so things are moving in. I'm learning. If I could say any entrepreneur absorb most of you guys know this, but those who don't. Taking the small steps every day and having the discipline is what succeeds. You know I. Thought Foolishly for years I was just gonNA discovered. It doesn't I mean maybe that happens to one percent of one percent. The reality is it's the people that are grinding it out every day making music writing networking just showing up a being a good human being to be a person that people wanna work with. You know that's been. All of my successes have come from that listening to your new single. Yes so it's called glistening. I wrote it a few years ago when I was traveling around the world, I was living in the Palestinian refugee camps and I was celebrate at the time I was really focusing on spirituality and. I came home after working along the refugee camps and I was just little burns out guitar. This song is flowed out of it so Song about love songs about Romance I thought it'd be a good intro to the bachelor nation people that are not followed me and I hope it resonates with veterans I'll say this you. I spent a lot of years feeling like vulnerability was weakness and I think a lot of times the military teaches that and the moment. I started to be honest and vulnerable with myself. it's unbelievable. Response had not only about all humanity, but especially within veterans veteran community, and so if I encourage any entrepreneurs to just be vulnerable and authentic, even at the risk of maybe being rejected. You'll be surprised how how well received you can be awesome, so glistening after lifted up, says already on Itunes, and you can find it. spotify, whatever Sir yeah, it's not every streaming platform that we have and yet. We'll be dropping video two weeks so definitely. Look out for that as well a music video. I one. no, I got a few on Youtube. This is the first one that's going to be a big premiere. Oh, well, awesome, yeah! So, so I want to ask them trying to figure out high frame this question, but like I think you kind of already answered, but allude to question towards that. In your experience with making it big That kind of thing you said is not. It's not like you just went to get discovered and boom. You're you're often running. It's that. The that slow March along doing the doing hard work every day. So I guess my question is as you all the musicians you've known over the years and played with and everything. And now you're kind of on the inside of the circle there in the Nashville community. You're hanging with and you know legit like really good artist in famous musicians that are. You know they're they're. They've made it. How many! How many people how musicians that that you know that haven't made it? Can you see a distinctive difference like in just the quality of? Of like say Guitar Player, for example like is there. Is there a true difference in the quality of the guitar player that you hung out with a New York? It's never gonNa go anywhere versus the guitar player that you know in Nashville. That's already big or Rush is a really a distinctive difference in the quality of their music or their talent. What I'm getting at is is it really that hard work daily grind? The allows you to make it in the person that just is waiting to be discovered. Whenever be discovered. Yeah. That's such a great question. Man One hundred percent, I think there's so there's so many talented musicians in the world that intimidating and national more than any place I've ever lived has talented musicians. You can't throw a stone without hitting. Somebody wrote a billboard top one hundred. Song they tend to you know there's a lot of ghost ghostwriters out here. There's a lot of talented musicians you know some of. It's just good luck and I. Think some of I believe in the power manifestation. Some of it is that for me, Some of it is is being okay with maybe having duality within your career whether you're a bartender, slash musician. I'm I do private security on the side as well I do. Private security slash music. It's been okay with that. You know I think it's staying humble and being hard working. I think the people who don't succeed or the people who bring an ego to the studio or to the stage, and that's been the worst that I've seen is people who think they deserve that the world owes them anything. Nobody owes you anything. You create your own destiny your. Future and what I love about Nashville is that there's super humble artwork you people here I've met very famous people that you know you know by name. They don't act like it. They they walk in with humility. They walk into the songwriting session. Like I am unequal whether I've been a billboard chart topping song or not I think there's a lot of there's a requirement to be humble here national and it's a really beautiful thing. New York tend tended to lead with ego, and those usually were the people who did make it. Interesting, yeah, so it's not that the talent level is not there. It's everything else around it. That keeps them keeps. Yeah, yeah, it is. It's a mindset from me. That's something that I've discovered. It's all about your mindset more. So, it's kind of the same with like grown up in grown up playing sports when I was younger. In High, school college and There's there's a lot. There's a lot of guys that could have played in the NBA. But they select out themselves, or they could play in the NFL or they could have played baseball, but the end of self selecting out for one reason or another say it. My point is it's not. You have to have the talent of course. Yes, just having the talent is never going to be enough, you correct. It's all the other stuff that goes along with it. The ultimately has to come together before you can really make it big so. Absolutely man and its. Surrounding yourself with positive people and being likable, you know I went to school with fifteen. Were there sixty of a social audio engineering and music production producers? Some of them were so talented, and they were like twenty, one twenty two, and I took him aside like a big brother, and I said listen Bro. You guys are so talented. Adults I would never hire you. Like you can be a ten at what you do, but if no one wants to hang out with you, you're not an effective Businessperson a CO worker. You know I'll take a guy who's an eighth, but his enthusiastic wants to be there. WHO's hard-charging? Who Cares who listens who communicates effectively? That's always gonNA. Win Out so for any young entrepreneurs that are getting up stay humble, stay hungry, but but but be teachable, you know. Don't be egotistical about anything and. And yet be there to serve I think everybody. I I've I've. I've made decisions in my life to be acerbic, my whole life and they've always always come back. I've been given more than I've ever been able to giveaway. That makes sense. Some Lebron. We're done with our time here so I do. So, one more one more chance to promote your your new single that you put out and then follow that up with if you're talking to somebody, who, still in the military thing about getting out whether they're looking to go run their own business, get an entrepreneurship or maybe something to do with yards musician, some some other artistic endeavor. What kind of things come to mind? What kind of advice would you have form? Yeah, it's great. If you're going to do anything in the arts I highly recommend a book called. The war of art. Winning your inner creative battles Stephen that book my life. He around right, the right people be around positive people. There's a lot of negativity in the world. People are feeling that. Stay away from it. It's garbage ruin you. Be around positive people that are positive things, and go for it. Just go for. The forget the fear. pursue what you know to be in your heart, the right thing to do and it might take a lot longer than you think. We're. Of instagram vacation most most things of beauty don't work that way so continue to grab it out. I'm here if any I can help. Anybody of all of my socials are Brandon Mills Music. INSTAGRAM facebook youtube a on twitter on Brandon Bills Views S. Brandon Mills Music Dot Com. and. I'd love to talk to anybody that needs help. And I'm more than happy to to lead an ear, and tried to give some wisdom if I have anything to offer Yeah, finally, my single is glistening. It's on all streaming platforms It's it's a song about love and. Romance and everything that I think we all want in our life so. Take a listen thing. In Cool we discussed this. You'RE GONNA. Email me the MP three of your new single glistening, and when this. When this episode wraps up, I'll play the put the whole song there at the end of the episodes. Yeah, that'd be awesome in I'm. GonNa look. Okay. Well, Hey, brandon, great interview, great hearing your story in and we look forward to hearing your future success and keep on making us proud. As much by the You Bet all right. These two marines aroused could might. Be Listening to veteran on the move your pathfinder to freedom. If you like to show, leave us a review and I tunes. Reviews are always greatly appreciated. So until next time, this veteran is Oscar Mike. Here's brandon mills new single glistening. Walk it to? With heart still, please. I do Bama Cy. STARLIGHT street. We will slowly. And in Geno Romance the best of friends. They back to sleep with me. Three more. Life. Store? 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Networking for Business

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Networking for Business

"Army veteran Anthony Ditoto from eighteen thirty six veterans talks about networking and creating collisions with veterans and veteran business owners coming up next of veteran on the move welcome to veteran on the move if you're a veteran in transition and entrepreneur wannabe still stuck in that trying to escape. This podcast is dedicated to your success. Now your host Joe Green in this episode is brought to you by bench bookkeeping. If you're not manure the lasting a mess with bookkeeping but it is a necessary evil Linda's ruled entrepreneurship bench bookkeeping relieved that huge burden for me and my business because bench puts bookkeeping on autopilot to check out bench and get one month free of bookkeeping and take that task off your desk good a veteran of the move dot com slash bench all right. We're talking talking with army veteran Anthony Ditoto from eighteen thirty six veterans Anthony thanks for being here today before we get to talk about business in manure ship take us back and tells us which is in the army sure so to tune commands and a company command as a First Lieutenant to those to pretend commander in Germany the company man was down in Kuwait Cleanup Minefield tail end of the first Gulf War then I transitioned out and worked in the National Guard and reserves in Connecticut and then in Ohio and eventually in Chicago so I part of my service was concluded. Aki active duty and ninety four Reserves National Guard Ninety nine and then I just reupped my second stint as the secretary of the army. It's not something that Navy Marines Air Force have but I was the one hundredth appointed it's a three star equivalent protocol purposes and the duties these are meet a flag draped coffin at Ellington field on behalf secretary their family as the primary second would be to help recruiting command Houston in Texas Number One marine and army recruiting command in the country before out kick our coverage that way helping folks with transition issues how they land unwell so as we recruit the army of the future where they're more interested in driving a computer running algorithms machine learning to make sure that the traditional treatment and cannon cockers or landing well and integrating out into society and then really been at war for eighteen years last part of that job continues to be just telling the story yeah well. That sounds like you're heavily involved in the veteran activities. Get your finger on the pulse and you talk about transition on the severe side of things you kind of transition in and out on and off active in in the reserves as far as the military side. What was what was your transition like on the civilian side while you're going through all that yeah you know. I I went to a school upstate about sixty miles north of New York City called West Point founded in nineteen to like say that makes it two hundred seventeen years history unhampered by progress right. They've got a way of doing something they've kind of stuck with us and when I got out we have an alumni reaper when I went to there was one in New York on the second weekend of March and in Connecticut on the third and up in Boston on the fourth and I went to all three and I gave the same sort of stump. Speech is the youngest graduate in the room. I knew that my responsibility is make sure the mytalk doc was short and succinct and the only other responsibility was to pay attention the first one that was short and succinct and so I figured I talk about education training and character building. I figured the ladder character-building and day one at West Point and I just explained the Tailhook. They marched us down to her hall. They seated us with my eleven hundred and fifty the other new cadets and ask the people to stand up all those either Valedictorian highschool and more than two hundred stood and all those your captain varsity athletic team and four hundred more more stood and all those you're president of your senior class in high school another one hundred fifty eight stood and I figured that point question left was Anthony Ditoto you like stand up and and it caught US similar kind of response people giggled and people came up to me and said you know I was that guy sitting down and we always feel like like we're we're not good enough at that threshold whether it's our gunny sergeant or drill sergeants as a plea as a brand new lieutenant and getting out and transitioning thank hearkens back I had two hundred fifty eight deputies and Pakistanis working for me as a denture service the Kuwaitis and then I pivoted into an office look like the comic Strip Dilbert or fifteen people thought I worked for them and I just was at this crisis. I was thinking hey you know. I don't know no what I really want to do next but I'm pretty sure it's not going to have as much purposes. What I just did yeah. That's a resent resounding reality. Check when when when you get out and you're whatever civilian job you land in even if it's one of the Kulin few coupons. It's out there. It's still like it. Will you talked about where you had two hundred. I'm fifty eight four nationals working for you. Essentially there's just nothing significant some so many jobs you do in the survey sector. Just not gonNA feel bill as significant as what you did in the military is no getting around it. I agree and you know what I was having the conversation on the tank commander at the time who left off eight branch qualified captains back in Bamberg Germany and took me down with him because that was the known quantity even though brand certified yet I had not been the advance course and I got a one black blocked for combat command that was gonNA wind up in a staff job for the next ten to fifteen years before I could do what you know what I eventually do his job and he said you know you have my job like fifteen to eighteen years and I said yes sir I I realize that and I appreciate the opportunity and I I just for me. It was I wanted to touch an impact a wider swath of people sooner and so that and it took a I'm not saying that I transition very well in retrospect. We can all Monday morning quarterback. It's taken me this long. You would put words around that. Oh Yeah so so visually you found your way into the banking industry right I did I did I in part of that was it was a circuitous path wasn't necessarily streetline what I did was that each of the alumni dinners that I went to I'm telling you you know it's nice to be in one of those old boy networks that's powerful not a negative stigmatisms today with it but where these are people who walk some of the same ground and so therefore it was easier to have these conversations with them because we had we had crossed the same pass and one of the points that I made was you know look there is there's a lot ahead of me that I don't understand and I look I look for some guidance from you so approaching humility went along way and sat with rookie mayor Rudy Giuliani. I sat with Buddy Beukah. I sat with how war from one of your soldiers young. I sat with Mike Daley. He was a forty three x Grad so three of them are medal of honor winners and they all cooped up there reveal rolodex in my promise to them and one of the reasons what's inspired what I try to today and they all helped me when there was nothing Salaam and all I can do is make promise that when I was given the opportunity I tried to help others. They weren't a similar position. Yeah that's awesome. You know we do talk about you know networking in mentorship quite a bit on the show and that's a perfect example. people often wonder. Are you know how do you network or how do you find mentors and really you win. Sought them out and you were willing to receive in receive in in a respectful tactful way and that's that was all they needed. I mean there's so many somebody great potential mentors out there and people with it being older now i. I can see it from their perspective. It's there's nothing more satisfying than seeing a younger anger person. Come in with Eyes Wide Open saying teach me I wanNA know what do I need to know. I value what you have to say. There's nothing more you know. I'm almost invigorating to somebody. That's older that does have something to teach and something to give back knowing that they've got a somebody. That's willing to receive leave that in so it's almost put yourself in that position of being knowing tell these people you're ready to receive and the right people will step step up and help you absolutely and just even your comments on that vote could couples just responses for me. One is that we have to use you're in her mouth and the ratio in which they're given to us that he talks most and particularly warm front of somebody that has chewed some of the same dirt. Are you know err on the side of being concise always goes a long way. The other thing would be my my ten and twelve year old sons would tell me the modern philosophy philosopher Florida the rapper with you know. If you WANNA get paid. You can ask your money if you WanNa get paid twice asked for vice when you were in a similar position to me. What are some of the things that you did. What were the lessons learned. Asking good open ended questions questions that are GONNA help. You have helped them time travel a little bit what you're hoping for. I what is it isn't distant real candid response response ultimately. Will you get sometimes bonus say you know you remind me of myself and and when I was position and people don't you you people don't from either side. They don't care what you know until they care and and if you're not taking the time paying them a little harsh there that that homage depends on where you're where you're from this country then they they they're not gonna they're gonna just be thinking about whatever meeting next on their calendar calendar so one of the things. I stress there's a piece that's even Google find it call naive networking that I recommend to everyone and a lot of my so. I've sent to send it to their college age children as well when they think about internships. I've passed a mind to rewrite it specifically for veterans but it's pretty close to good enough as it it is than it basically just says you don't WanNa be stocking somebody on social media before you go meet up however you wanna be well researched so that you know a bit a- and you're not asking them questions for the information available in the public space the same as for somebody. That's done two hundred eighty plus podcasts. you know ask them questions. That are meaningful not not about how do you do a podcast and and that's particularly. You know what what drove you to do this. What keeps you doing it. get get get into an ask them questions about the why so yes some suggesting that you go into these interactions and interviews even if they're informational with a a couple of good questions now make it feel less static when you're just when you're having a conversation with something. I got audited by the IRS YEP for the first time ever. I got audited matter of fact it's still ongoing for the year two thousand sixteen at first. I was real concerned about my books and all the information required by the CPA to get through this audit then I remembered I'd start bench bookkeeping awhile back I frantically went into my bench account using the bench APP on my phone to see if I'd started using best before twenty sixteen he's relief adeptly started in two thousand sixteen but I'd had bench go backwards to the beginning of the year so everything was covered when we were able to immediately provide all the required information her. CPA he was very impressed with their bookkeeping organization in our records just smiled well. It's not really that I'm very organized. Thing is because I have bench. That's why so with bench. Even an audit from the irs became no big deal. I will never be without bitch. I believe that once you try bench which you won't ever be without them either so right now you can get one free month of bench and see for yourself how great they are good a veteran dot com slash bench check him out there sign up use them for a month. You'll become a believer. You don't even have to enter a credit card number anything like that. Just use them for a month and I a guarantee you you wanna be with Adam Arabic talking with Anthony Toto. So before the break we covered a lot about networking and transition everything and well. We had to record the recorder stopped. We're you were telling me about some of your experience with family offices. As far as the banking industry or investments is or concern is really fascinating so tell us what a family office is sure so a family office is we think of now now you'll hear a lot about private wealth management and advisory firms that serve ultra high net worth so depending on how you delineate it a family office is a group structure that would help a family go through liquidity event like the hundred x of what they typically earning in in annual gross gross income and it's really building a set of advisers around the investing legal taxation the administrative creative challenges family might see and everybody thinks wow. I'd love to have that challenge. What's still a challenge and a problem so having a team of advisers where in Texas we'd say what's not are Rodeo. We've been down this path before. We've walked this past with other families and there's a difference between creating money and then keeping keeping it. It's a very very different skills so I grew up in a very large national brokerage firm my post military career and I and and that was really after it was kind of cute. It's path that led me to what I'm doing. I've worked in a INC five hundred company on public. I worked in Inc.. Five hundred companies really fast growth. There was sold to a venture firm and then it went to a large broker and had a private bank and I did that for seven years and and then I went to an independent ended that had was founded by two families that built big things at rusted one started in nineteen fourteen and Nineteen fifteen midwest families and I spent the preponderance in the last twelve years games there until coming back to my old bank in the spring and May and Mike is to really help families think about what is the right it platform where once your post liquidity of that what are you going to do with that second half of your life now that you've created wealth now what and what is the impact of that wealth on the next generation and I appreciate you asking me about that because it really has informed the way that I've thought about the advice that we're giving instant transition yeah so a family office is essentially helping helping a family. That's got a lot of assets to do the right things with it and not not let added into the wrong hands yeah and the way that I tended lead those conversations would be. I asked them self assess you no no lines so how how financially literate are you and then. How much can you delegate and then the third one is the one that's most appropriate for veterans as well. What if there's something that you. We know that just isn't so. Can I tell you we have enough relationship net. It's the unknown unknowns really jump up and bite people yeah absolutely and of course a lot of people chuckle or laugh like Oh. I'd love to have that problem like you mentioned but I mean if if if you are or your family your parents the grandparents have built a big big nest egg and a lot of wealth you don't want to just blow it. You don't want to mess that up. There's probably a lot of other family members that you know depend on that for security and financial support so yeah. It's a great problem to have but but it's still something that you don't WanNa take lightly in mess up is like the old the old adage about. Oh you win the statistics on people that win the lottery you know poor people that win the lottery within a few years. They're back to be in poor and out because they want a lot of money but they're still completely financially illiterate. Absolutely I think the other analogies appropriate you see the posse that's around some of these athletes when they go pro and they're taking advice advice in the wrong people and putting money in the wrong places and I spent lion's share of the time when when I initially got back into this industry in the Silicon Valley Alley in San Francisco and easy come and easy go you know if if you invest in something for the first time nine normally wealth returns to its rightful owners right meaning somebody that's being a little bit more measuring twice cutting once and being and careful about what they do and so I think we're in an age where media channels are abundant and advice and the free remodel is prevalent and you have to be very careful about who you take advice from because free advice can sometimes be way more expensive than you saw yeah yeah the other analogy if you take all the money in the world and evenly distributed to every human being on earth within a year or two all the money would be back in the same you yeah same hands of the people that currently have it so right cloners yeah exactly so but yeah family office some. I hadn't heard of before but very interesting so tell us about eighteen thirty six veterans sure so but the name I some all tell you we're a bunch of millennials sitting around the campus to Rice University in Houston Texas asked me three years ago how they cow Akao for some guidance on how the thirty five thousand dollars and and I said so what do you need it for and they needed to bring a group called bunker bunker labs down to Houston thirty five. Let's see thirty five. Oh why don't we call it eighteen thirty six to pay on edge to the year in which Texas one independent and nobody seemed to disagree and so we shows that as a way to create some and then we added the veterans part to make sure everybody everybody understood it was focused on veterans and put up a website and our goal with it really was to raise that thirty five thousand dollars but we presume that would take us a little bit we'll only about a week and a half and we didn't have to build powerpoint deck and I just asked him friends and and other veteran veteran emphathize your some patriots didn't serve like you in the Marines and the army and they said look if you're doing it and I put five grand in of non dilutive capital so no strings on this. We're just putting us in place we can get this call. Paul Bunker that we understand on these interesting Kinda Shiny object events we want we want them in Houston and there was another bank that put in a million talk to take him to fifteen different cities and we city sixteen. You know there was no money left to bring them to Houston but Houston's got the second harsh veteran population the country's. La and we felt like there's lots of different groups here that we're doing good things but bunker might be a way to unite them under a particular umbrella so that's the reason that we have formed and then what has what has manifested itself is once we set that up and we built it and they came. There's an event at rice called the veteran veteran business battle that happens every spring and we we reopened the next one on Veterans Day every year and we've he'd funded that we've seen funded did the entrepreneurship conference at West Point so what I'm saying funding. We're doing the events. Were really a glorified event planner. We want to create collision between veterans and Veterans Veteran Spouse Business Owners and folks that they might run into when we think about capital and people understood this was there was an article written and it was a little a bit mischaracterized. We talked about capital. There's financial capital. We think that's the easy part. You've got a business. That's making money. Anybody will WANNA put money into it. Okay any prudent person so we think if you think about acronyms sold military-type love acronyms we use the acronym fish F. I. S. H. After the financial control the one we're we're not doing any of that. I the intellectual is who should be your co founder. WHO's GonNa be the guy that's GonNa Punch in the throat or keep you out of your own way and not let you do some stupid to give money back to its rightful owners S.'s social. Who are your clients? Can you do something for fifty cents and sell it for dollars. Somebody Product Service wise and then human who who are your employees is going to be. We know very well. It's only small businesses. That create jobs in this country large companies each ops. You know artisanal intelligence machine learning each odds small business owner. I think people think veterans and that's great. I think the small business owner because it provides us the capital all system allows us all to exist and as you and I both know freedom and free somebody's got to pay for it and I think that eighteen thirty six was really to fill a gap particular need of the point in time given the fact that I have now graduated matriculated back to a large bank. It's likely he then I'm GONNA buy. I hate this. I'm going to split it up and continue to run the nonprofit side for folks that do WanNa do the F. Sort of investing they can take that and they can pool together other people say like but I'm going to separate myself from that because now I work in a very large old big bank and I wanna stay within AH in my lane for them. If that makes sense sure so eighteen thirty six veterans is you kind of affectionately dubbed it as a meeting meeting planning organization. You're putting events together in creating collisions between veterans in business owners veteran business owners and mill spouses in those kinds of things injury that's correct and so the intent of it is where we launch it is. I'll say Eric was able to do forty. Five minutes stand up tables where people can come up with a ten card and they they say hey. What are you doing. Joe Walsh run this podcast and I I do x y and then we do get everybody together. In one room African I forty five minutes where it's just kind of milling and mixing and we're very purposeful on the second part it will will say. I'll say you know all all the entrepreneurs cameron put their hands. They're the last event we did. There's about one hundred people air. We had twelve people something but probably twenty. Five people fancy themselves an entrepreneur. They put their hand there. I'm like that's great chance down. All those of you that are check writer meaning. You've written a check into an entity in which you're not an operator. Please put your hand in there and I said all right so you twelve hundred GonNa present you see the people who rent checks to others right so pay attention who they are. What your present they make good eye contact attack everybody. Kinda chuckles and I said so I think everybody that ever check into an entity in which they were not an operator put their hands in the air and within two parent ten twelve year old boys and I'll have one of them in a blue sports coat and tie white shirt and one of them will push through the crowd and say hey excuse me but I've been doing some research on the Internet so I know it's true and you'll have a little phone in front of me to say it says right here that veteran is somebody who has written a check to check up to an impeachable their life at least once in their life in the United United States of America what that does it it quiets the room and it gets everybody focused and and I all right so listen that little guy that's got a point. what I'd like you to listen for is fish. I use the acronym again. I the underneath it so. F- financial less interested in that right you guys decide that as the deeper conversation but I for intellectual Esra social intellectual again as a reminder as a CO founder under a board member and advisor in some capacity the SS social who their clients going to be and the human capital who their employees are going to be so listen. I'm going to ask each each of these young aspiring entrepreneurs. Most of them are not I'm GonNa Answer to touch on the following things you know. What is their value proposition Russian. How is it unique. Who Do they do it for. Why do they do what they do. You know what is there. Do they have monthly recurring revenue. what is their. What is their minimum about their their minimum viable product you know what are they doing the essence of what their businesses and I'm GONNA ask them to make some ask on the people side or the intellectual side or the client inside and if you think you might know somebody please find them afterward. Since Oh let each of these twelve folks talk for three minutes we're done within an hour and then we do another thirty to forty five minutes of social and we're done and what I've been told by a bunch of these folks that have participated as either the the potential investor a small business owner a mentor protege or get the creator of the business plan is we're using their time far more effectively. You know they to tell their story to a silent room of you know fifty to eighty people who left to their own devices all else being equal. I would love to give a hand out her hand up most of the time to a veteran over someone else and they don't and they feel like that's either their patriotic duty or somebody else hope that helped them at some point in their life so again all it is is creating a right sort of event with the right people in the room now the people that come to these events like what's the ratio like. AK- lists the ratio of people that are they're looking for help assuming the veterans and future entrepreneur types versus the people that are they're looking to help someone someone so. It's a great question and what I've done is taken advantage of the fact that would often is the issue with a family office so is the next generation. That's family is trying to figure out what they WANNA be. Thomas Jefferson said that Adam Smith wrote a piece. It's called the wealth of nations and your companion piece about money and families reiterated it and he said I was soldiers. My son candidate farmer so his son could be a poet. We don't get too deep into that. What it means you pick an old book different vocation than your old man or your mom then you're not gonna get benchmark against against them and quite often people go into family businesses because they don't have a different alternative. That's the only reason right a really good way to perpetuate the patch. Wait a particular legacy at something you're good at but I would argue in this age of artificial intelligence and franchises and machine learning and ah other competitors you know oftentimes there might be a more efficient way to run the capital and so what they often need is they need good leadership because we often hear from some of these families that we interface with his Well not really my son's not ready yet and look at let me say well Bob. you're seventy one years old you know so I think you're fifty fifty year old son. If he's not ready we now when's the ever GonNa Ready and so a lot of this is they need somebody else. That's grittier than them to particularly take on this operating role so the the path of entrepreneurship that I always push veterans towards entrepreneurship by acquisition right. Is there somebody where they can step in. There's already media panel and they can buy their way into something. That's already working versus trying to create scratch. I mean there's there's always those stories and that Hollywood loves right. He's sort of Horatio Alger at at the end of the day that's super inefficient with most of the investor capital at one point it you only hear about the successes that failures players. There's a graveyard of isn't discussed now. I think from my own opinion you know knowing people in the veterans space. I I think a lot of a lot of us probably shy away from acquiring a business that currently exists one because Oh maybe it's not my brand new unique the idea you know and but even if you can get past that is like well. That's going to require a lot of money to just by business outright. You know I'd rather start small and work work my way up so how is it that a veteran a veteran. That's really wanting to get in entrepreneurship. He's got to nasty and everything and he could. He could learn assist him. That already exists probably much more successfully than starting from scratch. How does he go about raising the capital to buy an existing business business. I think it's let's use that word capital again right. You're thinking and I think you're framing it around financial capital that fair so if you have if you have a treasure trove of the actual social and human capital already it takes a lot less of other okay so meaning I right again. I'll go back to this now. We're not physically going to hurt anybody but rather punch him in the proverbial throat and talk them out of it. If you haven't been a mentor protege to somebody somebody where you've worked in a particular vocation for awhile then why should I give you my money already pay taxes on for you experiment with it right so I would you think this is a learning trade. I'm one of my roles working for the secretary of the army as to how people lan well what I've called the micro dirty job industries so electricity plumbers plumbers. HVAC contractors construction workers there's just not enough people and if if most folks would pause enough understand that they can make twice the median household income of fifty six thousand dollars after two or three years working in those trades it presuming that they're presentable abol promote untrustworthy then. Why wouldn't you consider being what I I the best I can tell the term enterpreneur I don't you know who created it but instead of entrepreneur just put I n t r a meteor internal and you're a bit of a change agent within the organization. I think that veterans are great at. Ah You know 'cause we've always rolled into exile rolls before you do the COO role. You're a good number two and I think a great way to be a good number. Two has learned earned from somebody. That really is an artist in their vocation. Now how do you get to the money was the question so one is you save a little bit part of it is used some seller financing and the third is there's a number of set asides that are available through the SBA through some seventy lending where their financial institutions that WANNA help there's three legs the SBA stool people focus on the minority and the woman legs of it more than they do the the veteran side and so part of the eighteen thirty six is just trying to balance balance that out a bit and say that look you need to focus on the I F H my fish acronym more than the APP and once you have those three things you know you're not gonna the need as much as you thought you did and take some of the F. in the form of financial reform non-dilutive capital and credit right so if a bank doesn't WanNa lend you maybe you don't I have a business. Maybe that's a lifestyle business or lifestyle plus and that should be you and your brother in law but it's not really commercially viable well. It's interesting so talk a little bit. We are getting close to the end of our time. I do WANNA. Give you a chance for a shoutout for eighteen thirty six veterans so if somebody wants to find got more about what eighteen thirty six veterans does and what you guys are doing. How would they find you. Just the the URL. The web is www w. w. dot one eight three six the era. Ns Dot Com and you know it may be that we split it at some point to a nonprofit and for profit but there's there's there'll always be information there and we're going to build out more of a resource page that there are seven to ten different groups around the country. They're either run by veterans and they have a preference for veteran investment and we'll point then do appoint anybody that comes through our sites those organizations because there there are pools rules of capital. There'd be raised because it's viewed that that Erin's are ready and they are thoughtful and they can make good operators with the right set of training and the right set of mentors awesome well. I want to give you the last word what easily ask people is. If you're talking to somebody it's still in the military somewhere in their transition or just got out recently and they're looking to become an entrepreneur start. Doing business run their own show. What kind of advice would you have form. I'd start early. I'd use the soldiers for life. NETAPP's programs. There's a program called a protege program. that's being developed within the army. Department of Labor's got a program for it. You can use your time when while you're on terminal leaves to take care of that the other thing I went down in Fort Bragg and I worked with some tips and spear operators last year something they call it kind of a capstone program for those guys have been working on forward edge freedom call juggling chainsaws calling for fire and their post doesn't move they can make coffee you know they don't have a shaking their hand but they've been high performance operators but they're not high-performance family soaks and so I think part of it is making sure you've got the house it headquarters six you know mom or your husband whoever's. It was run the household making sure they're squared away before you move onto this next venture. I think about putting my nose in a book like what color is your parachute because they think it's been written for thirty years about the things should test Matt Lewis got a new book on transition. You may WANNA put your nose in as well. I think that can be a good resource sources for ham making the transition. I'm going from where in this different uniform to. Maybe a corporate uniforms or a polo at a pair of jeans and boots. What should I be thinking about about and the other thing is just go back to something. I touched on earlier. No so you know a lot of veterans think well. I don't have connect to really imagination or I'm a rule follower and no organization is GonNa want me or at the other extreme and they're like. What do you see what this whole packages pitches over. You're on the other end of the phone. I mean do you. WanNa put a million dollars in this package of awesomeness and that you know the truth is someplace in between but we can be a great resource if we're engaged with their in and on the right platform we still have a fair amount to learn and emphasizing that we've always learned that when we went in the military we had no experience scranton that but man are we willing to learn and we're not here to just learn on your dime. We WanNa have an impact and we'll figure out a way to make that go a long way. In those business conversations stations interactions awesome well. Hey Anthony definitely dropped some gold nuggets out there for us. Appreciate it. look forward to eighteen thirty six veterans future success in the you know look forward to seeing what you guys do in the near future. Thanks for your time today and thanks for what you don't talk cast to get the word out you bet he's asking me listening to veteran on the move your pathfinder to freedom if you like to show you leaders to review and I tunes reviews are always greatly appreciated so until next time. This veteran is Oscar Mike.

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Leader Development with Army Veteran Noble Gibbens

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Leader Development with Army Veteran Noble Gibbens

"Less Point Graduate Army veteran in serial entrepreneur. Noble Gibbons is up next on veteran on the move. Welcome to veteran on the mood. If you're a veteran in transition and entrepreneur wanna be for someone still stuck at that. Gop trying to escape this. Podcast is dedicated to your success. And now your host Joe Crane. Did you know you can get an American Express card navyfederal? The more rewards card offers three times points at supermarkets and restaurants three times points on gas in transit and tried shares tolls parking lots buses and more. Plus you'll earn one point on everything else for more details until apply visit navyfederal dot org. Today we're talk with Noble Gibbons Army veteran a noble. You got some stories Serial entrepreneur ten different startups. You've been involved in one way or another lots of failures. Good failures to talk about. We love talking about failure before you talking about all that once you take us back and tell us what you did in the Army Joe. Thanks for having me. I can feel the energy. Talking about high-speed aviator that's awesome so Panama slow speed aviator still bad vote. Air Wolf was one of my favorite shows growing up abby to dating yourself there. Well that's all school. Oh Yeah Oh yeah yeah I. I started out in the eighty second. I want you did on my after. West boy had went to of course forbade egg airborne school empty officer. Basic Course Ranger School then came to Fort Bragg way back in the day and was blessed to serve had some amazing leadership from Jump Street has been really interesting effort. Heck I've been out for almost twenty years now and it's been fascinating here. It's a mixed bag. Many of my buddies had great experiences. Like me I would say number have not had been blessed with being exposed as amazing leadership but anyway imposter the eighty second raffle two liter Scout Platoon Leader Brigade Air Air Officer in Second Brigade three to five and then my last year. I was a staff puke up at Eighteen Devon Corps headquarters one of the main minions of captains up there serving coffee creamed kernels lives matter. How are you get your only serving coffee to somebody right sure? Well Hey will phenomenal career in the army. So what what year timeframe was it when you were getting out in just to put that in perspective not data here but in what was it like for you. Did you have a plan? Did you just walk out blindly and then you know. When did you start getting punched in the face? No great question so I started getting punched in the face at West Point. That's why that's why various makes sense green entrepreneurs we're used to getting punched in the face. All dealer no. It's honestly I I really think that's there's a lot of truth behind that. I mean at West Point I tell people I graduated the top bottom third of my class so I I was. I was definitely did a lot of trusting a guide during my four years at school there because a lot of my classmates were super smart folks and stuff but unfortunately I was i. I had to make up my lack of I q with with work ethic and that kind of thing and so I would tell. In fact one of my classmates. He was a he he would he would get back from. A four hour. Exams would have called term exams and he would be all bummed out on how to do it. Well I got a ninety eight percent right now and I'd be I'd be doing flips all excited. He's I mean how did you do you see more happy as do I got? I got a high fantastic. I got sixty eight years past right. It does into your question though is for me I really honestly at West. Point had to change my view of failure. Because you know high school I mean all the way through high school. Smart Kid got good grades as my dad but at west point completely really started to to to have a different experience on my on my grades and that kind of thing and so I had Louis reframed failure lily at West Point and realise. Okay look just my being power. Whatever this is this is where I'm at and I'm fine with it. I've just got to fight through it and really that that kind of set the tone kind of initially for jumping in individuals so then of course get getting the eighty second and You know I'm a big guy so I was never the five minute Mile Guy I was I can rock a lot I could. I could run with heavy ranger school. I carry the old school m sixty which is now the two forty but a lot of weight that kind of thing but was not a fast guy so for me. I had a lot of opportunities to redefine success and redefined failure and especially again you know when we started to have conversations my wife and I bought you own a business. What kind of business that kind of thing? I really had a really reframe fairly because as you know Joe as an entrepreneur so I like to view a now in fact I. I'm so into failure that my kids are. We have a daughter whose twelve we home school with a program called Casa conversations on one of the things we do. Is I tell my daughter almost every day Alannah? How did you fail today right? And if she can't give me an answer then we have to fail fail at something in and we celebrate failure and then and then okay so now we feel or something. Okay what did you learn? What did you learn by failing? I what I want for me in our family and our House to Entrepreneur House. It's it's professor. Failure failure is a tool to to to to maximize not something to be avoided. Wow that's awesome. You basically teaching in teaching your kids not to be scared of failure in really. I think in our typical school system failures always looked down upon because failure means you. Didn't you didn't perform up to standard in the classroom. And that's that's most of our frame of reference but when it comes to life and business you have to go out and fail to figure out what's going to work joe one hundred percent and a you brought it up so this is. I'm super passive about this. This is one of the reasons honestly one of the biggest reasons that we chose to home school. Because I wanted to teach my kid how to be an entrepreneur and I don't care how fancier school is how private your school is in America. The they don't teach entrepreneurship five-year-old's euros and and so I wanNA teach Mike how rural what better way to do that then from her parents who are Cyril entrepreneurs and so that you're exactly right in our in our case in system K. Through sixteen if you go onto college if you get an APP that is inherently a bad thing right. You're grounded Joe because you've got an F. In math or whatever. Get your grades up. You can't do anything fun until you get your grades up and for US I. I did not want my kid to be exposed to that version of of failure because that is in K. Through twelve greatest. Fourteen thousand four hundred hours of programming. That failure is a bad thing and I didn't want my kids exposed. Fourteen thousand four hundred hours of failure. Being a bad thing I wanted. I wanted the reverse. I want to celebrate failure and for her to not be paralyzed by like I like. I was which is one of the big hurdles that I had overcome transition from the military business. And so what? What point did you come up with this mentality in? Believe in so much that you're willing to basically home school your kids over it and actually infuse it in in your daily life Greg. Greg Question Joe so early on I met a guy another West Point Grad doing very very successful in all three financial type he he. He had investments for Successful Investor Verse Successful Entrepreneur Very Successful. Real Estate Guy had all three types of incomes portfolio at total control over time money. And I'm man. I'd never met anybody like that before. He turned me onto this guy. Robert kiyosaki which. I'm sure a lot of entrepreneurs from there with rich dad poor and I've heard a bunch of his books. One of my favorite books actually has called why as students were for students and students worked for the government. That's one of his books. That is one of the favorite books rubber Cusak. You use actually a marine pilot in Vietnam detail in a May I like. He has of great authors out there a lot of great business books Russia. Books out there for me. That's what wants like once. I Read Rich Dad. Poor Dad it was like I realized that that so many of us are in the Financial Matrix. Just you know being raised. We've all heard this cheesequake before but I'm a cheesy quotes guy. Go to school. Get a good job. You know and and one day you'll make it at its site. That doesn't work but yet here we are. How many years later we're still on that. You know the corporate treadmill trying to you know make make make make lemonade out of Lemons win. Our whole thought process in my opinion about money and finances for many of us is wrong. A lot of us think we have a finite pie and we can only have you know at every piece of the Pie. We buy we diminished. A Pie wasn't entrepreneur. We own a bakery and we can make as many pies's we want to but that mindset is not. It's not common out there. It's it's it's the it's the former that we only have one pie versus. No Man we own bakery. Like how many streams of income do you want what what do you WanNa do with Your Life? How can you? How can you meet other people's needs by creating a business using the strengths of God's giving you to to make a better impact in this world man that's good stuff? Man I tell you what We're going to take a break and we're GONNA be right back in just continue on with this whole second navy. 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Your bikes there's a new motorcycle demonstration ride taking place in Washington D C over Memorial Day weekend for the thirty third consecutive year. A massive motorcycle. Rome we'll take place in the nation's capital over Memorial Day weekend to raise awareness of the plight of US prisoners of war in Eighteen. Thousand Servicemembers still missing in action. The ride will be known as rolling to remember. The twenty twenty ride will also address the national suicide epidemic. Taking the lives of more than Twenty Military Veterans Day in close partnership with several other patriotic organizations events is organizing what is expected to be the nation's largest political demonstration of twenty twenty and the world's largest one day motorcycle event embeds invites you to join us in ensuring that our elected leaders never forget the sacrifices made by those who have taken an oath to defend this nation. 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Tell us about what it was like when you go to the army and what that experience was so thankfully I had a a a very. I feel like a very successful military career. Obviously in the very short time I was in but there was there was A. I came to a fork in the road and it was. It was the Morpheus met that West Point Grad. Who was very you know had multiple shades and stuff and he introduced me to Robert Kiyosaki. Well what would what I read that book and the second the second one cashflow quadrant again? The other book that I mentioned to you as students were students that book. When I read those books I was like man like why? Is this the first time here about this since I came into a fork in the road probably when I was a first lieutenant? So where my first lieutenant phase? Maybe senior froze lieutenant. And I my my company commander had come from Ranger Regiment battalion. Commander had come from Ranger Regiment. They had written me a officer evaluation report about. Hey scoured make an awesome ranger lieutenant in Ranger Regiment. And that's where I really wanted to go but I had just started actually got started my my my. I wet my business t if you will in a home based business a network marketing business. That's kind of cut my teeth originally and man once I got a taste of like man. What business ownership is and that. Kinda thing it really. It really does fork in the road like man. I could see what I can do this business or I could see what I could do. Obviously in the military which. I kind of knew I was very familiar with that track. Just being in the military for a handful a few years in. Ulta made this decision and knew the phone rings regimen pursued my my career there and absolutely not knocking anyone that pursues that direction. But just for me we we wanted a family want kids and stuff and I just knew that you go that route you're going to have an OP temple. That's that's pretty that's pretty steep and not necessarily family conducive and so or I could pursue business with that and potentially get to a spot where we can start other businesses. Get control over finances. Get Control of our time that coming so I chose the latter out and you know within a five year time period was able to get where you know it was was financially independent at age thirty and had a had a good six figure income and and that really was my first foray into business in it. Since then I've been a part of star our own Health and fitness center are are to medical imaging centers. One Mobile Medical Medical Imaging Center one was a fixed site medical imaging center another we government contracting business with Special Operations Guys Speaking Engagements Executive Coaching Anyway a lot of different vegetables since then. says jumping into that making that transition business. Yeah okay so I still think he skipped over so was it was like you by the time you got out. You're you're so heavily. Run in on on the business side of things that getting out for you was almost like well also in the army. Just wasn't there anymore and you just kept on rolling or you know the Great. I got out. Was it like rough at first and then you start figuring it out no. That's that's great great to Dalit anymore. There's no doubt that transitioning from your comfort zone to the unknown is brutal. I don't care how you slice it. I don't care if you're a neurosurgeon. Going into cardiology. I don't care if you're a military transitioning into your business like I don't care if you're in the military 'cause I got tons of France to all my classmates are getting out right now. All of them a lot. We're getting out as as Oh sixes off is no sixes tentacles. Charles at it. Listen it's not easy. So transitioning from a comfort zone to an unknown is is absolutely brutal so my encouragement to people is find a tribe. Find a community of other entrepreneurs other like minded folks that you can. You can learn together like again this. This is a great. You know veteran the move Joe's podcast and all these other great entrepreneur veterans for doors. That have made that transition. There's so much content out there and I kind of you. That was one thing that I that. I was very intentional about his finding a tribe finding community shopped into learning about about about business about entrepreneurship. But it wasn't easy man. It was you're talking about walk by faith it was not easy. It was brutal Lot of lot of failures lot of face. Plants throw punches the other piece. I tell entrepreneurs new entrepreneurs is look. I made this analogy a Lotta love watching UFC. And I do my daughter neither Jujitsu Brazilian Jujitsu and I tell a lot of budding entrepreneurs look entrepreneurship is like being a UFC fighter. Even if you're the greatest. Ufc fighter on the planet. They still get punched in the face and they don't freak out they get punched in the face. They don't cry when they get punched in the face. They don't they. Don't walk out of the ring like that is a part of the job description. And that's a safety would be an entrepreneur like being an entrepreneur is part of the job description is facing overcoming obstacles and fear and failure. Like that is a part of the deal. That's awesome in it. It's well put talk about getting punched in the face. As if as if we're once you get skilled enough you won't get punched in the face anymore. But the fact is if you're if you're in the arena getting punched in the face of the game that's right so you've been a part of a number of different startups Some of them are probably a lot of them. Your own idea. Maybe some of them. You know partners and things like that. What what kind of the standard. Mo of Starting something up. You've been involved enough of them where you probably start to pick up on. You got a list of ten questions you ask. Right up front. What when you see an opportunity coming your way. He'll what kind of things come to mind when you start talking about evaluating future opportunities you might get involved in. That's excellent question. Honestly one of the biggest things this is gonNA sound like you may be like where you go with this but just trust me so so get our host program that we use against called Casa conversation. They use a classical approach to learning well and I didn't know I didn't even know what that meant right before. I was a public school guy so I had no idea. What does that even mean they? There's a thing called brings a fancy Latin word. It's going to sound La- fancy pants but it's called a trivia M- which just means it's Latin for three roads are three ways. What's the way that we all learn? Anything is with these three ways in. It's called and Kramer stage the dialectic stage and rhetorical stage and the the grammar stage is just learning. The language were literally. It's like you're learning to ABC's and then then you start putting some words together. They start putting some some some phrases together and then sentences and then paragraphs and chapters in books right. That's kind of the process well in the dialectic stage when you start to understand enough of the alphabet at enough words nine start putting words together to where you start where you can start asking questions okay. What's the relationship between this and this was that that and then you get rhetorical where you can start teaching other people like if I asked if I call. Joe Can you teach me how to have have how to have a podcast? You'd like dude all day long because I've got. I've been doing this for years right. So that's an example. You'd be rhetorical in podcasting that kind of thing. Well for me as an entrepreneur. What's been super helpful about understanding this natural progression of how he learned is because it's the whole it's a whole elephant concept like crack because again we've all been trained in Iraq educators. How to be an employee so it's like we've never learn how we don't even know how to seek about owning a business and so so having that thought process. Okay man old email I wanna I wanna I want to build this widget one. A do the service whatever it is but were even begin right because it's the elephant right. Where do I? How do you eat an elephant? Well knowing this natural progression of learning has helped me out tremendously because for me how I start to evaluate a businesses. Learn in fact. There's actually so we just started a podcast. My wife and I literally want to go call for Entrepreneurs Yeah Emotional Intelligence Frost for doors. But it's called Eq- for entrepreneurs and start a month ago and you know that journey right. I was. Why didn't I do it five years ago? Ten Years AGO WELL ON MY HEART. I want to do it earlier but a lot of stuff. A lot of my each used office. Why did not do further but one of the? Lynn facts limiting factors. Was it this big massive elephant? How podcast I've never podcast before so I do. I just started to listen to podcast about podcasting. Watch youtube videos about podcasting so I could start to build my grammar so I could start to learn that. Abc's of PODCASTS. Because I can understand the verbiage and language so that if I ever did call Joe I wouldn't be wasting his time what he'd be saying. Oh it just use Lipson and you know you gotta use your RSS Feed in which was again four language to be a month ago but after spending time Lord so again the podcasting just one example of again. It doesn't matter what Your Business is. There's other businesses. We're looking at right now to start and again it's overwhelming. Oh my gosh. We're always start. It's just starting at two grammar phase until I get enough grammar record. Start asking questions about it now. I can start building my mind because when you when you're first starting you'd even know what questions to ask right so you know and I guess to get specific to your question is what questions to ask one of those is. Is there a need right if there's not a need in the marketplace? It doesn't matter if I I really love you know Origami or whatever and it's like okay but if there's not a need for Origami then it doesn't matter if you WanNa do it if there's no need for it I would not be business venture that I would necessarily pursue now knowing what you know about facebook groups and podcasts and reality TV shows. I am convinced that there is a tribe for everyone. I am shocked at some of the stuff that people have turned into businesses. That are like dude. You're absolutely wasting time. So but but but bottom line is is there a need right in the marketplace and then and then do you have a unique approach again? This is nothing to toothpick right right the TOOTHPICK I. Oh there's no way to approve a politics. I guess to add a little piece De Stick. Stick in your grill and ride you. Pick out all the basket. Well sure enough. Who was the guy that? Put the little floss thing. If between now and now that you the zillionaire right so crew. Who would have thought. But so there's you know. Is there a way to improve on an idea Where are you frustrated at other areas or services or products that you use that frustrate you that maybe you could come up with a better solution for so anyway? Just just things the way I look at any new business venture libby Larsen Grammar. Let me figure out what what more intelligent questions I can start to ask. Neto before I pull the trigger. Now that being said another dynamic e- about hospitals because you know the other part is you can also get to where you can do analysis paralysis and you don't want to get to that phase either a lot times. I told budding entrepreneurs entrepreneurship is very much like jumping off the cliff and building the parachute on the way down absolutely. I think I've heard that before but the but there's no there's really no better way to put it. That's right because we all your scrambling. I'll never be able to become rhetorical until I until I try to do. A podcast at some point maybe in a couple years. I'll be as rhetorical as you at teaching somebody how to start a podcast but right now. I'm not right now. I'm only a month into. It's still very much in the grammar phase. Maybe little bit that the dialectic phase but I would argue still very much phase so I would never be rhetorical in doing a podcast without doing the podcast. Right so you'll part of that. Learning journey is at some point. Whether it's the grammar phase the phase at some point you have to pull the trigger in. Start Your own business. That's the only way I could start. I can get a PhD in podcasting. But until I did it I would not know as much about podcasting as Joe does as you do because you know. Yeah that apiece. But I've never I've never had one before right at some point as an entrepreneur. You have to pull the trigger and figured out on your way and going back to the analogy. Once you jump out of the airplane you will start figuring out how to build that parachute really fast because now now you know what's about to happen that's right that's exactly right it's going back that's exactly right. Yes so talk a little bit about to. If you're talking to somebody that's still in the military or you just get out recently. Middle of the transition kind of thing. They really want to start their own business or get in entrepreneurship but depend on whether at life you know they might be concerned about paying the bills or maybe. I really just need to go get a J. O. B. But they've always got to get this entrepreneurial passion inside of them that you know they're trying to figure out and try to how to act on it. What would you say that great great question? Joe My my two cents is start your side-hustle while you're still in the military and and see if you can start to again go through those learning phases get you know. Get as much as you can in the grammar phase learn. Abc's of whatever that businesses that are wanting to start you learn from from other people that are already in that space join communities websites facebook groups Lou. Podcast that kind of thing that are speaking the language that are already kind of in your space in your industry. Y You're still in the military because that's a real thing right is obviously you got to pay the bills. So builds your side-hustle y you're while you're still in the military now now the expense of your military career right. 'cause you want to give the best to your soldiers and that kind of thing seems to want to be a professional military soldiers stuff but you know we all have tons of free time that we waste take some of that free time make it productive by investing in your side. Hustle and also make sure I would also encourage you to you. Don't maybe ten conferences that currently conferences within your industry within your space but also be be more intentional with budgeting and your finances? Because at some point you're going to want to have a buffer you're gonNA WANNA have funds and resources that you have dedicated to be able to support your side hustle. So that at some point once you start generating enough income you know where maybe potentially i. In best case scenario your side-hustle has gotten to a place where it has. It has broke even with your with your your military income. Then obviously dentist an easy decision for you. To just you know walk from your military career in slide into your you know your your site house. Now Your side-hustle become a primary. But I beat up. I don't recommend putting yourself in like getting out of the military and you haven't even started your side-hustle yet without getting a job you need seed money and a primary source of income while you're learning your side hustle because there's no pain like financial pain right and so it's the Financial paying like dental pain. I've got a pretty high pain tolerance except when it comes to my teeth my back right so so it's the same thing we'll financial pain in. It's just if you go about your side-hustle wisely you don't have to be dumb about how you approach your side Hustle in an Arctic complete depleting all your resources. You want to be smart about how you go about it. Well said okay. Next question is as you've built a number of different businesses. How have you been able to? Have you experienced the The Solo Entrepreneur Syndrome. Where you're trying to do everything yourself to save money and you really get to the point where you're working so much ins in the business that you're not even able to work on the business anymore and maybe how you've been able to overcome that with either hiring virtual assistants or the concept of bringing other people in tasking things out and getting off your plate so you can still be you know the big Blue Arrow Gay hot hundred percent excellent question Joe. Absolute dynamic that every entrepreneur faces at some point in their journey because obviously is a start up again being part of multiple startups over ten startups. You every person in the company and again if you're especially if you're slow you are wearing. You are the operations guy. You are the Customer Service Guy. You are the manager. You are the leader. You are the in the creative side so you are wearing five. Ten different has at some point and again this is where proper budgeting comes into play is what are those things that only you can do that right in your business versus somebody else. I tell you the virtual assistance we just in fact. We just for podcast. We just hired somebody on fiber OR FIBER DOT COM F. I V. E. R. R. DOT COM to be content curator for us. And so he he. You know we. We upload all the content he to dropbox he downloads. It edits it. Does all the audio stop puts on the intro. The altro and takes an uploads it to our podcast Eq- for entrepreneurs and also our our youtube channel and our facebook page so so so that has allowed us to just focus on the creative side. Which that's you know the other stuff like I can add it. I do all the editing stuff to it. Just takes me a long time and takes a lot of emotional energy out of me. Which would which does was now. I don't have as much energy for my creative side. And and obviously for as an entrepreneur as in the creations based on the content space. Like you have to you know it. A lot of it is driven by your content so you I wanNA make sure that. I'm the freshest in the most energy and bandwidth for the content creation side at having him take stuff has been an absolute game changer so we may think will may I. Can't I can't hire this guy? Here's the deal. As long as you know your finances forget what your budget is. And maybe you maybe only okay. This guy is the rate going rate. Ten Bucks an hour twenty bucks now wherever it is for whatever services that you put a you know transition off of your plate and maybe only set just tried out for for our to another huge recognition that I got from another officer. That was game changer. When you're doing a search for executive assistants or other folks that help take stuff off a replay like you can find five or upward wherever you find them at do a video do zoom with them do do a you know some sort of and I like to do face to face just because I like to be able to see the non verbals that kind of thing and you can really established okay. Is this personal jet. Do you guys have chemistry? Is this something that I can see myself working with over the next three six twelve months to a year beyond so that would be my two cents. That's really been helpful for US. That's awesome. Hey you didn't even know that fiber was a sponsor for my show currently at this time so totally totally totally Backed up my my fiber sponsor in and I use five all the time. Oh my wife uses fiber I've used five or for years And I've never had a bad experience. I really haven't all these the quality of work I get back in the amount of money you pay just amazes me. The amount of talent is out there. Yeah Middle Logo The logo for my podcast. I had it for like five years. My first logo paid. There was some guy that had been in the army. He was like seventy bucks. It was A. It's a phenomenal. Logo is Great. So yeah totally on board with the whole family thing well Unfortunately noble we're about out of time Maybe give you the last word Somebody's out there. You know struggling with whole you kind of cover this already but you know what would you last? Words be to the military audience out there. It's it's new and budding in the entrepreneur wannabees wanting to get in the fight. Listen you got this man this. You got what it takes this like. If in a win you get punched in the face throat punch forever. It's part of the journey. You have inside you. What we've learned in the military about operating in chaotic environments about thinking critical thinking all that stuff. That is all entrepreneur. Gold you absolutely have. It takes a game that you've got guys give you home. Those refined those understand that. It's a process. Failure is not an event. It's it's a lesson it's a tool. It's a professor to be to be used in your journey learned remember stakes learned from those around. You learn from those or father head on the road that you are but bottom line is you've got what it takes. You are a solution to somebody else's problems. That's awesome can think of a better way to end it so thanks Noel phenomenon. I'm writing stuff down the cyclic rate. Here great quotes great great Golden Nuggets so for your future success and maybe after you start your next company will have you back on the show check. Check back in with you. Thanks Joe Thank you so much for time. Thanks for all that you do for all out there all the entrepreneurs out there. I with gifts that you've got man. I totally appreciate it. Joe Thanks for your time. You Bet these. Two veterans are screaming. Be Listening to veteran on the move. Your Pathfinder to freedom if you like to show review is reviews are always greatly appreciated so until next time. This veteran is Oscar Mike.

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Episode 05 - Philip K. Dick's Second Variety Part 2

Curious Matter Anthology

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Episode 05 - Philip K. Dick's Second Variety Part 2

"Welcome to episode five of the Curious Matter Anthology I'm Jonathan peasant the Creator and host of the series. It's been an amazing two weeks here on the PODCAST and I'm so grateful to all you new listeners. Thank you to everyone out there in the quickly growing curious matter legion I know you're all eager to find out what's in store for Major Hendrix and the Rest of x Ray Company. So I'll keep my intro short today we in an amazing time of technological advancement for fans of science fiction. It's an almost daily exercise in what new magical technology from the stories of yesterday will become today's newest tech trends. Try Quarters became iphones Cortana became well Cortana one of many advanced virtual assistance now found in gadgets all around the home. We even have artificial intelligence that deeply dreams of sheep as it happens. It came out in the news last week that a speculative technology included in our own story has just become a reality if you were paying close attention in part one odor mentions the clause drones use Q. E. Band transceivers to communicate. Now, before your Eyes Roll back in your head, just check this out Q. E. stands for quantum entanglement in layman's terms, it's when two particles sometimes great distances apart act as though they are. connected. It's a phenomenon scientists have been studying for years and even Albert Einstein, wrote about it these two separate particles spin and move in unison cosmetically linked. Now that's all well and good. But how do I use it to DM might buddy on another planet? Well, that's just it scientists from the University of Bristol and the Technical University of Denmark have achieved quantum teleportation of data between two computer chips. Thanks to that's right quantum entanglement. So you never know. The combat logistics autonomous weapons system or clause. May Be a lot closer to reality than you think. Okay let's get on with the show. This episode of curious matter is rated explicit and includes adult language and violence comparable your narrated film. Our show is designed to be a completely immersive hd audio experience, and it is best when played through high quality speakers or headphones. So grab your popcorn, turn off the lights and enjoy the continuing story of Philip, k Dick's second variety. Mark. Behind that pilot. Major they have cut off. Her, rebound to be overrun. If we go back competent volt enemy in it. The only way is through. We got more. With the. got. The Gate on the right. Your fire. I have way out for you need hurry. Looks like escape route both everyone through the gate into the maintenance quarter, we're on the move he won use grenades cover retreat. Hey let's. Get up professor shorty here just saved our baking. I never fired my God. Okay Everyone Oscar Mike. Go go go. We're getting the hell out of here. quickly. We need to go this way. There's a secret tunnel that can take you to the other side of town. How far? Far Com-. We Really. Oh you kid. My Name. Is David. Get her in here layer down I need. Major, we need to stop it. All right. Hold up here sergeant mark. Make sure we are being followed. Dhabi. Setting up a defensive position teams inventory AMMO and resupply from what I were able to grab in the square. Catch your breath folks. Out of this yet Corpora Yami keep an eye on the kid GOPI Iot. Like over here hold her down damnit. He's It's federal. She blew the stint get that light in here. I need to clamp it. pull the pressure cuff from my pack quickly. I do something. which president. Almost there. Artery hotter risers now. Up. Almost there. No you. Brisbane. Pressman you asshole you wake up. Pressman you wake up. No come on grey. There's nothing else you can do here. This is Aldo. Lost Bressler. that. That makes four pro stack loom briggs and pressman. Ramirez Nakimora. Still haven't reported in. We should retreat back to Lima whistle base and then return and force. Buck up lieutenant I've been tighter spots than this and come out the other side. This is the risk we signed up for it's up to us to get this done. We need to find a safe exit and continue north. Guests whereabout two clicks west of Adrian. These tunnels must have been the loop lines rebuilding before the war they were supposed to run all over the country. Just another room now. What do we do about the kid? For now, we take him with us how did he even find us With the religious type had say we just experienced miracle. It just doesn't make sense if you're looking for sense, you picked the wrong career path. What is your name? David? Gallo. David. Very, nice to meet you. I am the Dasha at the. Wishing it stay here. It's not safe. We will only be a little while I am sure. Would you like something to eat? It's not fresh but EXP- banana peanut butter. Do you like, Banana. I'm not. Hungry When is the last time you eat? Where are your parents? Con. That other people that you live with. I don't live with anyone you live all by yourself out here. There's no one Bertha bad men in the others. The others all the machines. Yes. You are very breathed. How long have you been alone? How long have you been soldier? A. Longtime. Feels like forever. Feels like forever. Well Kit. You aunt alone Emma. WHO's that? You're better? Does he have an to just bear I like it very direct. Hello Bear. It is very nice to meet you too. He says we should go. X Ray. X Ray is NATO. Pumped my head out for a look see a service ladder from the tunnel leads to some kind of maintenance and ventilation building adjacent to Gilbert. Highway. This position holds a decent way of the surrounding area abandoned farmland on both sides of the highway few ruined buildings about Click out eight the best western but could be a good place to hole up for the night. Work Needham X. Ray we're going topside team to your own I. Watch everyone else back out and get a couple of hours of rush. We are moving out over six hundred. Hey Doc. Water and Amel mookie. Thank you. You're doing. Okay. Fine. Okay. If. You. If you. Need to talk why would I need to talk? Pressman for one. She's dead. It's just. It's been a while since you are on patrol for all of us. Yeah Yeah true enough. But no one else here ever stripped down to their birthday suit and just sort of walked off the line. We all have our bad days. And they just decided to let you out amid SEC. Like. Nothing happened. Yes. Because I'm fine. Why didn't you come to me when you got out? We were. You never said anything. I could've helped you. What helped you. How does someone just goes there something I owe you. An explanation for one, there isn't one. I, don't even remember doing it. which the doctor said is common enough. I just remember I platoon finding the in that ruined town. LIKE WAKING UP FROM ONE BAD DREAM into another battery. and. That's it. That's it. But. I'm here to do my job. Same as you. We got claws heavy assault units inbound maybe clicks our. Oda. Do, you think they picked up our I tags tax decided to give us an escort after the should those mules pulled on us? It's the least twitchy do that it seems likely answer though I doubt the arrival of these units as anything Hewlett yesterday, the units are individuals. Each one makes its own decision based upon complete awareness of all the other unit sensory data you tell us, they can see everything. That means our meals new. You're about to ambush decided to save their own skins. have been trying to reason why the type threes left the way they did. The only conclusion I can see is that they came to the consensus that there was a higher priority task. What is higher priority than defending your own team digital versus analog logic? It's why Okada's an assigned joint missions. The two don't mix well. This. This whole thing is about attrition. Six months ago with a breath of total annihilation. The `sorry. Almost every major population center in North American Europe. How many friends have you lost fighting this war family? With the latest population estimate is. One point. Five billion. That's it. That's That's all we have left. The Sinoe Russians were within a year perfecting Stealth Trans Orbital Weapons. Wants the SRA could hit us with impunity lunar soil that would have been it lights out. We put every available resource. We had left into getting claws into service. Logic may be impossible for us to understand, but they are only hope. Clause has one core objective. And the war as fast as possible and ensure that life can survive whatever's left. Now General. Captain. Lady Sorenson. You got away from me. You Spas for squeak we have to go now. You aren't safe here. Anymore they're coming. Kid, the machines are on. Me To. Believe me please we need to go now. Known as the anything else out there. Not Nothing on thermal just the column heaviest all-time Five s reckoning there eight maybe ten minutes out. You sure about this kid. Can't stay here bad things will happen if we stay here. Type Fives we've come in really handy. Another firefighter were down to maybe two mags per manned. We won't survive another surprise like yesterday without twitches help I'm with the tennis gone on this clause may not follow traditional logic, but they are on our side. We should wait and see. Please you have to believe me we need to leave now. After yesterday. The kid says, something's not right. I've got a mind to believe in. Bulk grab a beer. We're moving out double time. Adeyemi carry the kid we're going to put as much distance between them and us. As. We Cam. Toward the highway how did the con- sneak up on our physician unless the `sorry has deflecting camel I would have spotted them on the stove served well, clearly you missed something Corp. David. How did you know we were in danger You aren't going to believe me. I'll try. I promise. Fair told me cert- this is preposterous. He did. Can I see there? I guess. Here. Did bear also tell you to help us yesterday. While, then he's my new best friend, you take good care of. Mr Oda. There any possible way? The `sorry has somehow managed to take control of clause units. It's simply impossible. Are you suggesting that the type has meant is harm. And even if they did, why would they fire an empty building? I left pressman and pro. Stacks. Tags. Enrolling in Medicare soon, and it had me a little confused. 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Then the good thing we have an invitation. That is a mother fucking kill box right there. One hundred you go in there and con wants your number. It's going to be SPLAT. SPLAT you gotTa have a death wish to take that block. Where's all that get some reaper of death shit. Now, Rook you nervous in the surface this whole mission straight foo bar. If. The lady thinks I'm committing suicide for her she's fucking nuts. Let's get one thing streep any of US swallow a FRAC for Hendrix you have no idea what it was like during the blitz she is anything but stupid most of our, that's our only alive because of her. If the major says walk. You better get in step. Get me. I ain't no pussy. But I know trap when I see one. What is it that you know tracking? Nothing. Sounds about right. How looking. Not a pete. I'm glad we never had the storm. This place clause. Sure. Did A number here. The crack this place like a walnut nate, the guts. Back for the briefing you to nuts. I'll keep an eye on this ghost town for you. Everyone. Knows their tasks I'm counting on each of you. We go in there, meet with the Asari Brass, then high tail at home. Now David I need you to stay here with Corporal Adeyemi. I don't want to stay. It might be dangerous and I want you to stay safe so that you can come back with us you want me to live with you. For now, you'll come back to Lima whistle base. Until we can find you someplace safe with all the food you Kenny. But what if you need me I can help I know you can. But I need your help here. We would you dowdy Yami to protect the escape route? Keep your weapons dowd arms up shoulder to shoulder slow and steady. No thought it actions. No aggressive movement. This is overwatch. Major I have you in the platoon two hundred meters from the game still no signs of enemy movement I I really wish he'd let me stay with me and the boy. Where's your sense of adventure Mr Oda? Came all the way here. Don't you want to see the inside of a kong-based for yourself think of all that enemy tech. Sides Mr Priority One. You have a we're authority. Remember all you had to say no Hendrix. Is Intimidating. that. She is one hundred and fifty meters. Keep going halfway there. It's OK data that is nothing to fear. I need to be there with them. They shouldn't have stayed. It is much better here with me. Do you know any games why don't we play a game while we wait for them to get back she doesn't like that I'm not what she wants me to stay with them. Who told you this? Hold Up. I need you to stay here. I have bought up. Sorry. Sorry. One hundred meters still clear. Way. Shit talk to me, Leone. David Sir he's running. Fast You've had in your way. Fuck kind of. Clinton. Tower. Sniper. They just lose you with a target lock everybody down. Get. down. God. motherfuckers. The shot the kids tangled sided the tower. Take a shot. Tayo down. Aldo yet to David hold your fire. Cover. 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Thomas upon you. Know. FOR THE WAR MINNESOTA. Is. Quite Adam. That we should kill, you just try it Lieutenant Scott. I'm sorry for our response to your help we are just trying to get our heads around all this. I'm sure once I've had a chance to communicate with the ranking officers. Still throw you haven't encountered. They're quite effective the boy whatever it is helped us. We were attacked by an SRA unit yesterday twenty miles south in the town of Adrian. Defectors. Call companies have a bounded where costs does with haven't been slaughtered by machines. Yes. How long this one been taken you. Tagging the machine's quiet good that blended in. Finding ways to be in the white at in. Soto say one. Syrian. Well. As you see. There is just the four of you. And the Pierce to be so. Major, may I go ahead these infiltrators? When did they first appear? Do the all. The David Volvo which should go inside. It's not safe in open. Your tiny wants like to hide and the nokes and then Bob. 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A Warriors Garden

Veteran On the Move

31:13 min | 8 months ago

A Warriors Garden

"I'm a veteran. Malachi gaskin is hoping veterans through the therapeutic effects of gardening. A Warriors Garden is coming up next a veteran on the move. Welcome to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition an entrepreneur wanna be for someone still stuck at that. GOP escape this. PODCAST is dedicated to your success. Now your host Joe Green this episode is brought to you by Navy Federal Navy federal has a mission to put your members I by making their financial goals a priority. You can receive a lifetime membership benefits to help you. You and your family accomplish your life missions. It's open to active duty military the DOD veterans and their family members navy. Federal is proud to serve over eight million members including over one million veterans and their families visit navyfederal dot org slash veteran. Move for more information. Hey today we're talking with Malachite Gaskin with a worse garden so Malachi take us back and tell us which you've been doing in the army guard and the army. Thank thank you so nineteen ninety four. I got my ged. And I went down and saw national guard. Recruiter had been sitting at coffee houses with buddies of mine. They're like moment you had joined the guard and it just for me. It made sense because all the guys in my family always serve like. It's just kind of a thing we do so I got my ged. And I went down onslow recruiter and went onto maps and I scored really well the AB. They're like okay so we're the national guard so we only have so many options uh-huh and you scored high enough so about being a medic and was a medic. Do they're like they're like medic. Cool man medics get to work with the infantry guys and they get to do all this cool stuff you could do IV's. And I'm like. Oh I'll do that. Let's do that. You know I go to ninety four. I go to basic four because the funny part was like. Do you WanNa leave tomorrow or do you WANNA leave next month for basic and I was like oh I got to go home and get my stop reading like I got car payments and all I got to get that squared away all right so I ran home. Because they're going to send me like I was going to leave the next morning and has not to run back in the house real quick and so I got you know. In the next month I left and went to Fort Knox Kentucky for basic training. At the time it was the last all-male basic training And then I went to Fort Sam Houston for AIT six eight whiskey. And I got home and and I was with Charlie Company first to ninety third between Fort Wayne Indiana as a combat medic line medic for their victory tune And well I was actually the metric for the company because we only had one medic for the entire tire company and I was there long enough to see the other. Medics come in and then transitioned over to be eleven bravo because you know what I mean. Let's be real like when you're in the woods every weekend. Can you know doing the drill thing for the National Guard. It's a little bit more fun to be blowing stuff up than to be putting mole skin on people's feet you know so so I request you to eleven eleven Bravo I made it all the way up to staff sergeant and then was offered eighty-seven position with a medical company out of Indianapolis One Thirteenth Support Battalion. Diane and so I went down to Indianapolis and took an seven job and I got frost which is basically pinned but not paid yet and I wore or that were about nine months and then I got officially officially pin for two months and then I got out because I got into A. There's a lot of my first sergeant in that union. I got into it and I just I was done. What's IT GONNA stay in album gay? Oh I know and then so I was out for about three years and I was trying to be a rock star we owned a family business. Doing landscaping And my dad passed away in two thousand four and the banks kind of came in. And we're just like I don't know what he did because he wouldn't let anybody look at the books he was in charge of the finances And so what he ended up doing was he had money to loan to by loans to secure other loans to buy equipment. That was like the Prophet unload. It was this crazy. Weird thing that Probably within the next six wants to a year he would have been busted for some kind of federal something about the way he was running bank money like consumer loans from other banks to pay off other loans. It was crazy And so he passed away and the banks came in and said wait. You've got about a couple months when you normally shut down for the year this Indiana. So Snow's pretty good in the wintertime. And so we're like you know. Hey November usually shut down around thanksgiving. Well thanksgiving closing the doors. So that's two thousand four flash for two thousand six. My wife and I are homeless. Living on my mom's couch with three kids and I was like I don't know what to do and the other thing is I know our landscaping music in the military. I don't want to cut people's grass anymore. Uh Music isn't paying the bills and I think I need to go see an active duty recruiter and this is in two thousand six. My wife was like okay John Coming up to the peak of the war. Yeah And my wife was like all right. I mean we gotta do and so. I went through a recruiter in January of six and in April the six on a plane to Fort Sill to re to reintegrate and active duty army me and and left. There went to force Santa Fe New Mexico for a month with an MEC New Mexico. National Guard had a warrior transition transition program that if you were prior service and had been out for so long or if you were National Guard reserves going active duty you would go through this thirty day program so I did that and then I went to Fort Stewart Georgia Wardrobe with Third Infantry Division Zehr for about eleven months and then deployed for fifteen months. Came home for nine months deployed for thirteen months came home and then start a medical retirement board award. Well well so tell us a little bit about your transition out of the army after you'd gone back in and what was that like for you. The good the bad the ugly yes so why transition out of the guard. It was really simple because I stated the local community where I was raised When I left active duty I was being med boarded? I was in amid word for two and a half years because they couldn't consolidate my prior service military records with my current military records. Because they were going to the wrong national guard Area they were going to the DC bureau instead of the Indiana National Guard and so after about two years I was kind of like. Hey what's taking so long because I've watched people come in and and go after me And I don't know what to do here. I said were living on post when this is all said and done. I'm going to have thirty days to get get out and I need to be prepared like what's going on and there we can't and they told me you know we can't consolidate your records and so I made some phone calls to some friends in the National Guard and got my record within twenty minutes And got a taking care but my publisher. I ended up writing a book on right before I retired. My publisher was like you should come up to Nashville and checkout Tennessee. Because you're just too many options nations for veterans our goal was we were moving to Daytona beach. We were going to get it little two to three Acre plot. We start a little farm. Have a roadside stand. Be Beach bombs known. I mean we're just GonNa go live off the land and so my wife would just kind of like you know like all right. Let's go check out. We came up Tennessee for a four day weekend and next thing I know I was offered a job. We've found house. I was introduced to community. People like everything just fell into place and I was like well. I'm not gonNA argue. You know I'm I'm I'm a big believer in God and I'm just like I'm not gonNA argue with what I believe Mike. I'm going to go like I'm going to follow the lead as we came up here and we went from in two thousand six. We went from homeless to two thousand fourteen or sixteen gene We bought a twenty two farm in in Columbia Tennessee. Just south of Nashville of my transition was it was different because I had. I had some people in the veteran community that we're all over the country that were just like I'm not going to let you fall through the cracks like others half for some reason people reached back and grabbed me right away and I was set up for success in a way way that I had a civilian mentor. Where I was going at it was tied into my community and then I had several veteran commentors? Ed already successfully transitioned that every time I had. I hit roadblocks as as a veteran trying to navigate the civilian communities. They were just kind of like you know what's going on where you struggling at. How can I help? And so that's where I think that's where my success is a little different than some other other guys and Gals is that I had to very specific mentors instead of just a veteran that I was watching onto. I had that civilian. That never served. That was tied into the community where I was trying to go and so they get into like hey. Let me help you with the resume. Hey let me help you. Like how to talk to civilians. Because let's be real. We get out. That's one of our biggest drawbacks as we talk ought to civilians like we talked to other military people and that doesn't go over well and so yeah. It's like my first job. I had I walked could I was. I was hired to be the office manager for this Credit Card Processing Company that they credit card processing and identity theft management and after our first my first week of being being actually in charge we had a board meeting for the week and The owner of the company was Cal Academy this marking plan. And this is my idea. And now we're GONNA do that. That stupid stupid listening to this and he goes. Oh that's actually a good idea. Yeah you already know where I'm going with us right and so after the meeting. Hey can you stick back for a minute and I was again. What's up and and he goes up? You can't call me stupid. I was like I didn't. He was like no. You said I'm stupid. I'm like no no no what I said was. We're not GONNA do that that stupid. I'm calling you. The idea just doesn't going to work and he was like any sat back. He was very intelligent. He sits back and he goes. I think we have a communication gap between the military and then me and and I was like okay. What he did was he made very like he was like I want to start? I would have lunch with you every week for the next ten weeks. I'm like okay. And so for the next ten. We yeah and he sat sat down with me and he learned how I talk and he actually helped me okay so he actually mean he made notes at lunches and what are you doing. He's very very very studious about it. And so at the end of it he was like all right. So here's here's what I found and he's like we're GonNa Taylor how you talk. We're going to find a less aggressive way for you to say it. He was like because we use the way you talk in the military he does. It was probably normal. He goes but here comes off as very aggressive and civilian communities. I'm GonNa help you fix that Mike Okay and so I found out. I learned how to talk better. Because it's not that I was talking wrong. It was just there was a better way to do it and I. I took time to invest in me when I got out. Who cared and he was just a huge? He's huge and he's a big supporter of mine. Ever since like when I started my landscape company when I started my farm When I started my public speaking and doing all that he spent shoot when I started my nonprofit profit like he has just been a huge huge supporter of just all the different changes? I've made in all the different moves I've made you know that's actually amazing. I find it very intriguing because we know oh this happens all the time when veterans go into the civilian sector. They harshness and aggressiveness. In the and people get their people get offended and hurt Nixon. You know you know you're out on the street again but to have a guy not take that personal actually say let me find out what's going on here and he actually liked dissect it in got closer closer to you instead of farther away from you in figured it out and eventually forced you to kind of reeducate or start acting in a more civilized manner if you will yeah so that so that she pushed through it in and got three C.. You must realize there is some value in who you were. What you're doing? You were just coming across wrong wrong right whereas most employers would have just gotten rid of you that he actually was able to take a step back back in and see that there was an underlying issue That wasn't necessarily you know you you just. It was the culture in which you had come from right and and I think that some of that was he. He just wanted to hire a veteran. He wanted to give back because he didn't serve. He was very proud of our country is very proud of our military and he told me this all the time but I think one of the things was he just. He wanted to hire a veteran and I came with a skill set that he wanted and so he spent like we spent three different. Four different phone calls doing interviews before before I even came to Nashville and when I came to Nashville like I. I came up on Valentine's Day. Two thousand fourteen with a with a penske truck and my son and we unloaded our truck into our new house and then I went back home and picked up the wife and daughter and another load of penske truck and cleared housing and this is a three day period right. We drove up. Stay the night unloaded. The truck came back unloaded. The truck drove back and then when we got back the very next morning I got a penske fully loaded penski truck in my driveway and I'm going to a job interview on the day. I got off of active duty. I'm just starting my transition we. I'm walking into a job. That's not. That's not indicative most veterans like you don't get Out just go to a job interview But I'd spent six months prior to getting out trying to set up my next step. You know what I mean because I didn't want to just walk out and have no plan and so I got up there and he literally interviewed me for six and a half hours a day. I interviewed with him and I interviewed with the head of all the major departments in the company and it was just sick sick. Are you kidding me. Like he took me to launch. We had breakfast together like we spent the whole day. Just interviewing with all these different. I'm like what is going on. So he was just really invested. He wanted a veteran. I came like I said I think I came with that skill. Set of time management of people I did have pretty solid people skills with just my way. Talk to people sometimes can be very aggressive Oh and I think once. He realized that he was investing in the future of his companies. 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This is my head shoulders knees and toes and so when I got out Right before I had retired I wrote this book called a Warriors Guard which was kind of a it was a self Self Therapeutic Journey for PTSD. Because I was so tired already and this was just wild on active duty eighty but I was already tired of taking you know. The the narcotic medications the pain medications the all this stuff and I was going to therapy every week and none of it. I didn't feel any of it was really really helping. And so I wrote this book about all the different things I'd started doing on my own and for me. It was three specific things. It was growing deepened. My faith that was getting deeper with music and it was Mike Gardening And it really that right. There launched everything else that I've kind of gone into To include our nonprofit warfighter gardens. And that's really it's a therapy program. It's horticultural therapy program. Where we build therapy guards for veterans first responders and Gold Star family members And then we teach them how to you. Use a garden as therapy. It's not just like how to grow food. It's actually how to get involved into the garden to grow yourself Warriors Guard has really become. It's a self therapeutic movement like the US uses parts of it. We've I've had college universities. Now that are teaching my book and their and their psychology departments The Walter Reed Hospital Bethesda. Maryland has a garden program on campus. That they took from me. So it's it's really it's it's a warriors warriors garden has turned from. It was just a book that I was writing because my publisher. WHO's a friend of mine was like you know? Hey you should write a book about all the stuff you're doing and it really turned into a cell therapeutic callisto kind of self healing because it wasn't waiting on anybody else. Yes so we've we've been discussing a lot on the podcast with their folks about farming in general and veterans going into farming Like a lot of like a lot of the baby. boomer generation nation is retiring. And they're getting too old. A lot of baby boomers are farmers. And there's not a lot of young guys coming in behind him to continue on with farming so it really gardening's or or micro farming and there's a lot of micro micro herbs or the term escapes me at the moment. But basically basically micronutrients and Mike Micro Greens micro Greens exactly so you re things that can sell for at a really high end level you know Oh like fifteen twenty dollars a pound for this stuff and you can grow it in small areas and still being profitable so this whole farming and gardening gene in grown micro new Migraines and everything is very interesting. There's a lot a lot going on there and the USDA's got special. Bergen sponsor all this so I it's it's definitely seventy legit thing. And what is the therapeutic benefit to a veteran of doing doing these this this Gordon and micro for me so I found that you know as a veteran as someone who's like I was a combat medic while I was deployed. The first time you know my chain of command. The end found out that I was prior service had been treated and they were like. Oh you're going to be a squad leader. I ended up doing both jobs. So I'm kicking in doors wearing an aide bag clean villages with my brothers from the front line. Not Not not from the you know the back of the squad as as a medic being prepared to treat. I wouldn't kicking in the door and ready to assault and then retreat later. You know and and so what I found is that as a as someone going through their own healing journey is that when you get down in the ground and you and you get to do this process where you you build the garden guide. You all raised bets right. So they're all boxes that I build the custom design. And so you build this box you fill it with dirt you put the seat in your water nurtured you love it. You grow the plant you harvest the fruit you and then you hold onto these okay and so you grow this fruit that will sustain your family or yourself rice and now now you're you're creating your own food sustainability but but then you get to overgrown prefer seed production for the next year now not only have you created a Reduce of stress and a reduced exacerbated. PTSD signals. Because I create at been able to help you or you helped yourself. fulfill one of Maslow's hierarchy needs. Right which is food so I know where my foods coming from well now five knowing where my boots coming from. It doesn't cost almost anything to do that now. I've reduced my financial nanteuil strain in my financial budget. So I've reduced two of the things on my maslow's hierarchy is right finances and food so those things are taken care of. But now I can take the seed from the food that I've grown and I can hold that until next spring and I can replant. That's now I don't have to buy more seed and I've created an entire circle of life and so now. Instead of seeing destruction death people died in ideas. Blow up now. I get to see the life cycle happening. It's all it's doing all it splendor to go from seed seed to seed again and so to see that you kind of you. Don't delete what you've been through but you change your helps shift your focus from your trauma and shifts her focus onto your growth and so now you're paying more attention to how you're getting better than what you went through and when that happens when that focus that ship happens at priority level changes and life gets easier in probably the therapeutic concept of. You're creating something you know. You're actually you actually digging in the dirt with your hands and you're you're creating something you're washing life happen and like you said you create that sustainable circle and you you start seeing it. Come you know come full circle every year or even multiple times throughout the year. What fulfils all three needs of the human fulfills a spiritual connection of Avila's a creative outlet outlet and it fulfils a physical meet because physically? You're up up your couch. You're doing something spiritually. You're connected to something. That's bigger than yourself and creatively. Now you're looking at. What do I plan my garden for next year? How do I set it up? How do I want laid out you know? How am I going to harvest? Where am I going where am I going to hold it? How long can I keep it do wanting to free some of it but it creates you're using all the parts of who you are instead of just sitting there doing one thing and I did it? I felt like when I got out. I you know I worked with this guy for a year and then I started my own landscape company and then I was taken off. I was building gardens for people. I was mowing people's grass again. I didn't WanNa do but I was doing it And I tore four meniscus and it was like I couldn't work anymore because I couldn't walk all day long and so I got stuck in the whole like playing video games drinking beer cheetos. You know. We'll just not doing anything you know just living off my disability and it was just kind of like I didn't know what to do and I had a buddy again another veteran buddy reach back and it's like what are you doing now like nothing just playing video games would he do. And he's like me. It lifts community tomorrow for Lunch on buying. I'm like I never turned out free food. You know and You know I went out to lipscomb and next thing. I knew I was going home with the class. Schedule is registered to go to school. And I'm like Whoa wait a minute and I got my degree and we bought our farm. But it's I think veterans are migrating to agriculture. Because one we can do it by ourselves. We don't need any to supervise us. There's a like the. USDA THE FDA pilot programs for us What is it not the? Va But Look we have has programs for us. And then there's nonprofits out there like farmer veteran coalition that will support the crap out of you can get you up off the ground But it's so easy to start like in my book. Show people where you can take and you can take a gallon jug and grow your own pepper plants on your windowsill and you don't need to spend any money because you've already got a gallon. Gallon Milk Jug. You need a pair of scissors and eating dirt out of your backyard. You know and then you can already take a green pepper or lunchbox pepper from the grocery store that you already bought doc and harvest the seed from it. So you're not spending any extra money but it shows you that's how simple it is to get started so what we through some of the mechanics in some of the details of how how you're you're getting people started like you guys come into your website and say they want to try this or and then some show you know box shows up in the mail that they put together or what like what are the McCain. mclane look getting them. Involved gets a little. It's a little more. What we what we like to locally? We have multiple gardens on our farm. That veterans can come out and try and if the if they like it what we'll do is we'll we'll sit sit down with them and costume design a garden with them. And you're in the Nashville. Where about our south of Nashville Hookah And so what we'll do is we'll we'll do a fundraiser. And then we'll get home depot or office or a or lows or whatever and just be like. Hey would you be willing to support. I've had really really good luck with with both those entities going. Yeah we can give you up to this amount and then it really makes it easier for us to do a small fundraiser. And then we go and I sit down I so far have been the one to sit down every veteran builder garden. And we do it together And because it's because it's part of the process I wanted to do it and the only stipulation is that we really have is that you're a veteran first responder family member and that you either own your house or buying your house or have a letter from your landlord saying that you can have it because I don't want to build it and then have your landlord come in and say oh no you can have this and then we just waste all that time effort money with you to get it set up. But but those are really the only restriction restrict they can go to the website they could message us through our website you know at Warriors Garden Dot Com and dispel. CAD like to talk to you about getting garden and I'm usually myself and my wife or one of my board member one of the ones that'll reach out and be like you know. Hey this is you know we're GonNa send you a emailer has a list and it's really like ten questions the feel that questions out and then we vote on getting everybody set up. Do you have any. Are there any big success stories with any individual veterans that really stand endo. I've got a couple of veterans that I've worked with like I had a veteran up in Michigan. That just keep actually passed away recently But he every month he he. It fell in love with the concept. I didn't build a garden because then get a chance to get the Michigan but he fell in love with the concepts and the ideas and the process of everything so much that every month he would call me and I want to buy a box of fifty bucks and I was like what and so what I do is I would sell him a box of fifty books if he was a distributor. So you didn't pay any profit on it. And he was. He was giving them away and then I've got veterans. I've got to veterans here. Want national of one's about thirty minutes south of me that that I built them gardens this last year and the year before. They're not talking. Really Large. Like one garden was seventeen by seventeen foot long by eleven foot long by three report both reports L. Shape and they're both wide and there was two of those and then there was two two guards in the center of that there were three foot by eight foot And it took us a day to build it and fill what would dirt and then I had another one where we built. It was nineteen foot long by six foot deep and had cut out and I had border. Transit was very intricate And it set up to where you can use the organic methods of using marigolds and radishes and other flowers implants to use as your pest control that he plans you go And so and both of them one of them it's it's really sustained him emotionally but it's also helped him the one with the the nineteen six in Nashville He's using it to sustain his. He has airbnb you. And so he uses it to the table and his airbnb and so and then the other one he feeds his family out of it and the the beauty of that that one was. We were building the gardens together and I were six memorial bracelets for Friends of mine that were killed in combat and as we're building this garden cutting the lumber it looks at my bracelets and he snatches is my wrists and he goes how do you know how do you know fiscus an Easter and I was like well fiscus was the first platoon leader. I ever served on her in. Probably the best commander I ever had and Easter was one of the first. NCO's NCO's it ever ever took an interest in work with me. And he was like I was there when they were killed. Ghanistan like he was on the FOB. He'll like the recovery process. The whole deal we'd never met. I'm from Indiana. He's from Tennessee. You know like He. He did a backfill on our unit that deployed Afghanistan Mild Guard unit. And that's how they met and it's just like I didn't like I've met him randomly because my mom was getting is surgery and he was at the same eye doctor. Yeah but he's. Suzy is definitely grown from. He's had a lot a lot of love. What the brings his kids out there? You spend more family time. It's been definitely a connection piece for the family. Well Malka. We're getting closer every time time. So you kind of brush over really quick if somebody's interested in in getting involved in In farming or gardening or micro farming. How go to hold of you with the program that you're doing? They can email us at Malachi M. A. L. A. C. H. A. S. at a warriors EARS GARDEN DOT COM. They can send a message through our website which is www dot a warriors garden dot COM Or they actually call us at nine three one five two nine three two two six. We don't answer leave his voice mail. We'll get back to you the same day and you've got a book called Garden. Also we find it on Amazon unreal online. I in the same website you can get on all the major bookstores. You can get it from if you buy from my website. You're likely to get quicker. I'm a little faster than Amazon Amazon. Shipping it so that's hard to believe me. That's impressive Amazon. My printing companies a third party vendor to Amazon Amazon. And if I order it from I can order. ONESIES twosies Amazon waits until they're seventy orders and they ship them all at once so they're like doing on demand printing. Yeah Yeah Okay. Let's cool well. Hey It's also I WanNa give you last word You've started a nonprofit running a nonprofit. You've written a book you you've got some some great entrepreneurial you're renting your own farm to get some great. I veteran entrepreneurial stories that we could probably talk for another couple of hours about about. But I'll give you a chance if you talk into that guy. That's in the military or Gal or the military spouse and you know them as family. Whatever they're they're they're looking to get out here soon or already in their transition or maybe they've landed already don't really like where they've landed? What kind of things come to mind to? You can't the vice. Would you have for him reach out to organizations like score reach out to organizations like EEO which is entrepreneurs organization. Reach out to your local veteran veteran groups. I'm not a big fan of the service organizations like the American Legion VFW. But I know if you need them. They're there right so I'm not gonNA talk bad. Aww I'm for me personally. I don't utilize them. But if you're in a situation where you're not happy with where you're at or the way things are going the trajectory you're on these are places you can go and don't be afraid to reach out to them. And that's the biggest the biggest issue with most veterans as we get out and we don't Wanna ask her out because we're like we're too stubborn but it's like you know when you're on active duty. What did you do if you didn't know how to do something? You went to your next line supervisor. Like Hey I don't know how to do this. Can you teach me bright at so and then the other thing is if you're just sitting if you find yourself sitting on your couch and you're just waiting for things to happen. What happened to the in in the absence of orders take initiative? Get up and just decide to do something right every day. And and even if you know if I know that there's guys and gals out there that are broken physically physically that they just they they. It's not going to happen for them right away. So okay cool but don't just sit there on the couch to knuckle find something something. That's not Netflix. Something that's not video games. Find something everyday to challenge yourself and get up and do it. BELCO say great advice. Great Stories were appreciate you sharing your your stories your struggles your success story so look for your future success and maybe have you back on the show another year or so and talk more better warriors garden. I appreciate it thank you bet. These two veterans are asking Dak victory listening to veteran on the move. Your Pathfinder to freedom if you like the show leave us a review and I tunes reviews are always greatly appreciated so until the next time. This veteran is Oscar Mike.

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Noble Consulting

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Noble Consulting

"Jeremy Gray talks about transitioning to his side Hustle consulting business when he retired from the army coming up next on veteran on the move. Welcome to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition an entrepreneur WANNA be somewhat still stuck at that. Gop trying to escape this. Podcast is dedicated to your success. And now your host Joe Crane. This episode is brought to you by Navy Federal Navy federal has emission to put your members. I by making their financial goals a priority. You can receive a lifetime membership benefits to help you and your family accomplish your life missions. It's open active duty military the DOD veterans and their family members navy. Federal is proud to serve over eight million members including over. One million veterans and their families visit navyfederal dot org slash veteran. Move for more information that we're talking with Jeremy Gray from Noble Consulting Jeremy. Before we get to talk about business and entrepreneurship with you can take us back and tell us what you did in the army absolutely so I spent about twenty two years in the army and actually had a different career. I spent twelve years in and out of a schoolhouse towards the halfway point to the end of my career what I was doing the training development and instructional piece for senior leaders. And then as you were looking to retire from the army what was your transition plan or was it how was how was the plan. And how will it work for you? My plan went fairly well now. I started my transition plan earlier than a lot of people at at the fifteen year bark. I decided that I was going to retire as soon as I could discovered consulting and training development and I started going out a little bit and just helping people at night do some stuff so I I actually found a piece that the military equipment for to go out into the real world and talk about leadership and leadership development. So that plan lasted My wife and I decided to start our savings process increase savings and say hey. We're going to start going from fulltime military to actually. Hey this are are in date when we're actually going to transition out and that was kind of my. I really quick plan of how to leave the military even though something I really did love and so it was good on you for having the foresight to be thinking ahead. So what kind of things as far as your consulting business were you able to put in place while you're still on active duty to set you up to have that smooth transition into entrepreneurship when he got out where new retired so a couple of things I started using was my veteran network. You know I didn't realize I was calling a veteran network at the time but I knew some folks that had left military into I'd reach out to some of those guys and gals and ask them said. How was your journey? What what what were some of the mistakes? You made your transition What are some of the areas that that were surprises varies kind of so that that served you well and and people gave me some pretty amazing feedback? You know the having a savings plan as soon as you can to get as much savings as possible specialist being entrepreneur. I talked to people that were in the consulting business that had served in the military and then I used a couple mentoring networks. Acp and variety to kind of take a deeper dive into like how I need to be equipped for a consulting and how I found out about consulting is we used to have obviously active duty but also national guard and Army Reserve and I had this guy that owned his own business in the National Guard. That came through our leadership. School live when he got done at the Graduation came anyway. We could talk about some leadership styles. You talked about how to improve communication from that. You know he He passed name around six or seven people and people started wanting to pay in the united. Just kind of like doing this and that was the the origin of my consulting journey. Okay you know. There's a there's a a new light to look at her or or something after the military As we able to actually Get Your Business going while you're still on active duty and actually a few clients in actually get into profit mood Even before you retired actually yes I was. I started coaching people along the way. And and then I discovered this thing called John Maxwell and John Maxwell been a fan of his for a long time but I joined his John Maxwell team and so it it quickly with a lot of content and training be kind of translates him that military experience into that corporate space and so I was able to gain some clients adduced trainings at the local chambers of Commerce and small businesses that want to do stuff after hours and not generally work. Pretty good in my schedule to to kind of fit those people where I wasn't on tdy or or transitioning or whatever so it worked pretty. Well actually. Yes you're actually. You weren't just getting military client. You're actually giving clients while you're still in the military exactly. Yes and and some of those people were veterans that I knew through my My life in the military. They would recommend me to go out and talk to other people just about leadership and sort of leadership and what that looked like and then be able to break it down in packet to where people would be able to implement it pretty quickly into the organizations yes. I really liked the idea. How far network is concerned. How you you network with WHO YOU WITH. The current network. You had which was a military network and from the military network. You gradually got networked into severe on the civilian side of things while you were still active absolutely and I was. I was blessed. I don't know how it happened. But I kind of fell into networking. I can't remember which friend of mine talked about. This is who are you talking to and so I was telling the people I was in the in the military. I was trying to talk about this. And he said Jeremy. You need to talk to more people. Let me connect you with folks. And so he He encouraged me to get on link. Dan He started connecting me with people. That were other veterans. And you know I I met some guys grant and another guy named Kevin and some other folks and obviously you joe were. We've kind of connected now and and I learned how to network and I was amazed on how quickly that open doors having people that served in the military through some capacity and how that would allow me to meet other people that were actually never have served. But but how to veteran presence in their corporate world Hey we would like more of of you to come in to to help us out with leadership communication etc. You know. That's really one of the one of the biggest obstacles at veterans face is having that civilian network and because because oftentimes many of us when we get out of the military retire whatever. You're relocating from what you're currently at. So your sh you show up different city. Maybe we're where you get the first job or go back home or go with your spouse from you show up in land you just got out and yet you have zero civilian network and really zero military network. It's geographically with you so the value of of being able to build that network prior to exiting the military is tremendous absolutely in another thing that that really helped me and this little plug I actually was an alumni hiring our heroes corporate fellowship and whenever I was leaving the military. I still have this question. Like hey my my side hustle if you will is bringing in some income but will it be enough to establish you know a a way forward and we were fairly successful on some measurement but I went through that process to kind of go through discovery if if the corporate world not being true would work but the benefit of that was finding some people the network club quickly in the region I was in and as far as evaluating whether your your side hustle here before you got out was going to be able to pay you what it needed. What you needed to pay you. How were you able to evaluate that? And did you actually have it up to the point where it was almost replacing your military income before you retired or did you ramp up after you finally finally done it? Actually I had some ebbs and flows. We were doing pretty well where we were actually replacing the income and then you know Mike. Tyson has a great plan as a great quotes in. Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face or military folks. No plan survives first contact to and so kind of going through that process. It happened to me and even though we'd had that savings plan and that's one of those things I talk about quite a bit is that you know we. We Co we execute all contracts. We thought we were going to gain a couple more. I'm so that timing was perfect and then there was a a budget crunch if you will some of those corporate sectors and but it definitely taught me now. I'm a wild pass that it was like. Whoa it really showed me the value of entrepreneurship and another level of money management. As well as kind of relying on that network that veteran network that's an entrepreneurial space because I think all of us if felt that at some point where things were going really well then all of a sudden the break shed a little bit so in so when you before you retired. How much was your current military job restricting you from really taking off and flying in like when you finally were were out. Did the change come off in. Did you really accelerate or was it a big difference? 'cause I'm curious. Because really the ideal scenario we talk about on the show quite a bit is if you rent a side hustle while you're still in and you get to the point where it's making money and the only thing keeping you from scaling is the fact that you're still in then when you finally retire get out. There's nothing else holding you back your often run and I mean that's the ideal scenario. So did you experience that or was it still kinda slow to to get off the ground even after you were done so? I did experience some of that. So that some of the challenges like while it's still in the military now some people would want me to come and do like consulting during the week hit. WanNa see here obviously had responsibilities to military that were my number one priority and so I would. I would try to balance. Those two areas will once Once I went through my transition process and onto my leave. That's where things started ramping up quite a bit so it it did take off but I to be honest with you. It almost felt like a plane that had you're in the middle of taking off and all of a sudden something happens and so we had a set back down for just through November and December for example for a couple of months. Now we're starting to take off kind of against that. It's frustrating flight where you know. You're getting to your destination. You had two touchdown immediately after takeoff because of some issue but now we're going back up in a pretty quick trajectory so we're going from. You might appreciate this better than some assessment going to fighter jet. It almost feels like so within a few months. When I first joined the Marine Corps I became a navy federal member that was over twenty nine years ago and I still have the same account after twenty nine years old navy. Federal has a mission to put members. I by making their financial goals priority. 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This point haven't even got through a full year cycle before you got out you're running your side housing. You're you're you're talking on the break. We were talking. That your side-hustle you're making money with your side Hustle. But you didn't really need the money that you are making with the side hustle. So what were you able to do with that money at the time? Absolutely Joe so what we actually did with that money as we put a thousand square foot addition onto our house and I always told my wife that we were going to wait a couple of months and so about a week late to do anything more in about a week later we completely remodeled the rest of the house. Newt kitchen tour everything out. Put everything back new wiring everything so my wife got her new house on an old farm farmsteads. She's pretty excited. And I was also able to invest in my business by joining the John Maxwell team and some other things so it was really pretty successful before I got military. Yeah that's awesome. I mean they really gives you an idea of how successful your business was as a part time. Gig So you can't hit the doldrums. During during the holiday period the winter months things are starting to take up for you. Now who's your typical client and would exactly. Are you teaching them so my typical client? I guess to do that. Explain that best is kind of frame it up a little bit. As as most companies higher on technical skills they put something that was had a high level of technical ability into a management supervisory position on up. And so what? I like to do is but but they lack these essential leadership or soft skills. And what ideas I come in. I fill that gap developing those leadership traits of communication of of supervision of what military. We called counseling. But we kind of you know doing those. Those six month follow ups where they are really able to build their team successfully. Yeah you know you're referring to soft skills versus hard skills and this a very important point to military folks even if you especially just getting out looking for a job and there's lots of companies that just don't get it because civilian companies do like to hire based off technical skill or hard skills is all encompassing. I gotTA HAVE SOMEBODY. That's got a finance degree they gotta have got to be a CPA. They've they've got to really want somebody with an MBA so these are the understand this lean six sigma all the different certifications. And there's some jobs illegally require you to have those hard skills certifications. No getting around it. Of course the companies. I think when it comes to veterans. They're missing the boat when it comes to why they're really wanting to hire veteran and as because phenomenal soft skills. There's no better Leadership Training Program. No BETTER LEADERSHIP GROOMING INSTITUTION LEADERSHIP INSTITUTION. No better one than the US military when it comes to leadership. And that's what you really looking for. These people have phenomenal. Soft Skills Allow Times. You can teach them the hard skills in a short amount of time. Soft skills take a long time to learn and it takes a long time to learn it well and the. Us military puts more emphasis on leadership in those soft skills than any other organization out there absolutely and it's amazing the continuity program the military ass designed for from day. One 'til day twenty twenty years later you know They had this idea this plan to to develop people and and as we take that away from from the military and we do have some amazing abilities of project management of those essential soft skills. Planning and I won't go. I'm you know we talk about it for hours. And hours and hours can very passionate about it. And one of the things about Corporate the corporate world in if you will actually like to talk about a space where I'm giving a talk. You're a few months about hiring veterans. And how that's good for corporate folks where where you know when corporations do that. They're absolutely blown away. By how quickly on veterans learn those hard skills but they they already had those soft skills established and then there are ally is exponential is because they're they're like Whoa we didn't realize this I to be able to positive Positively influence the rest of their team. Their group where everybody else's able to bring up their ability and really start improving results. Yeah you know I guess some good friends and some military comrades got out in the last few years and some of these some of some companies have figured it out to the point where they're they're hiring somebody and putting him in charge of insurance company maybe a small insurance brokerage or something like that. They know nothing about insurance but they've figured out wait the it's really the leadership we're putting this individual at the top. Because he's a leader. He'll figure out the insurance thing but and even some of the employees that figure out. Oh they put this charge nothing about insurance their little dismayed about it in the beginning but shortly wants the leadership kicks in once the individual starts performing as true leader then the employees figure. Oh yeah I understand. It's I don't really care if he knows I don't really care if my boss knows about insurance fact is he's leading. He cares about us. He's going to take care of us. He's GonNa make to do the right thing for the company. That's really what's ends up being important that level so I find it interesting that in in your your basically your ideal customer or these companies that have hired on based on technical skill but they forgot about the whole leadership thing in really. It's the lack leadership that's holding individuals or the company back in order to move to the next level. That's exactly right and once they kind of like you said figure it out all the companies that I've done any consulting with you know and I use the term culture but I also believe that everything rises and falls on leadership and so when people implement these strategies of leadership and and not just surface level leadership the military has a comprehensive leadership thought just trying to improve the results of the organization. But you know they really care about people and the great leaders really have influence people for generations we could talk about many military leaders of yesteryear that are still influencing how the military does work and leadership today and we take that out in the corporate space. We talk about say you know. There's a lot of people influencers today that do that. But most of those people draw inspiration from military leaders from yesteryear and so we kind of impact that and go forward and say. Hey this is the way you influence. Your people both either positive negatively affect results and there is some if you will of some continuity between positive leadership positive results negative leadership or lack of leadership negative results when people buy in and the quicker they buy in the fuller. They buy into deeper. They buy in the quicker. They're our ally seems to appear. I've I've had people at. It took a couple years and I've had a couple of months and their results are so you know when they're in that space. I wish I would have understood that five years ago. Ten years ago in your teaching primarily the John Maxwell System in which is like a civilian version of leadership. How important is your performance or the product you deliver. How important is that? You're able to take what you take the leadership lessons. You had in the military and apply them to the John Actual System one of the ASA great question. One of the opportunities I had in the military is being instructor. So as I develop those instructional skills and writing and developing leadership. It was funny because in some of that course where John Maxwell was specifically talked about it and what he considered leadership and so when I left the military. Some of those skills when you're dealing with soldiers or or military people in the military you have to connect with them on a pretty authentic level because of some of our the work. We have to do both both you know here and abroad. And so when I when I translated that to the John Maxwell Systems people like you don't understand stress. I smile and I said you know. When you're you know a thousand miles away from your home and you're trying to balance work life you find out. Really what stresses. And so we asked to talk about resiliency and John Maxwell talks about resiliency and and really connecting with your people in your organization and the better you you connect with them the more you you provide that leadership and give them follow up and feedback and an influence empowerment to make decisions You essentially growing organic leaders in your organization that a truly Thursday organization and so it's kind of similar to the military were or we give people these limits to make decisions but then we allow them to make decisions and we we extrapolate that information and package it in a little different way and allow those leaders in corporate spaces to to make decisions and to empower them and when you empower them innovation really can happen within avation results improved and and without going too deep into that you know. It's pretty amazing. What happens when when you take that ability from the military use John Maxwell systems as well combine those two to really serve. What my client bases. Which like I said before those people that want that gap filled. Yes so how is you you execute on on this system to show up and do like a one or two day seminar and then you're gone and that's it or is there a follow up and reach back going on over a six month timeframe that's a great question so what? I what I tell people the corporate spaces I'm speaker trainer and coach and so what I believe is I go in. I like to plant Oak Trees Trees Oak trees or my favorite trees. And so whenever I do like a lunch and learn or I go to a training event. I might tell them. I'm planning some oak trees and depending on the type of training benefits a lunch and learn. It's a small small seed or spouse false athlete. It's workshop it's a more established tree and so we we can do it through that method. If you'd like for me to kind of help fertilize kind of help. Have Irrigation System. I have continuity programs which really loud those trees to to get that solid route baso six months to a year later it really takes hold on the really able to to find that our ally in how are you doing that over a long period of time you just coming back and visiting the office on a regular basis so one of the things. I do is I. I use this thing this this bottle mastermind group so essentially mastermind groups through this model is where we'll take a an hour a week over ten weeks for example will have them pour into each other be leaders in this organization. And we'll we'll kind of see what's working. What's not and I will provide some some guidance facilitation on best way of connecting with their teams. Also we talk about like stove piping verses having this reservoir and so we try to get out of the silos where they realized that they really need each other. And we do that through. A mastermind group workshops or or truly a continuity program with with with those spokes training workshops. Maybe coaching to kind of help. People really plant along the way and to grow their light. Neuro trees masterminded phenomenal concept in a of the member mastermind for a couple years and I wouldn't ever be without it at this point so how many masterminds are you typically juggling in addition to go out and get new clients in doing Onsite presentations so my full caseload. If you will is five to seven masterminds at one time. I was a pretty intense caseload with on top of that with Tinge coaching clients and about quarterly. I try to. Do you know two to three workshops in various areas. Run trying to reach out to but my main my main reach out for people as opportunities to lunch learns where Nell come and do a forty five minute talk over over leadership and one of the various programs. I might have like a typical typical company. That you've done a lunch and learn with and they've hired you as a consultant for the leadership's Seminars and stuff like that. How many does everybody in this in the same company all go in the same mastermind or you you divide it out where you have? Multiple masterminds from each company depends on the size of the company. I I I like to use that mastermind group in a small a small groups of twelve to fifteen. It's kind of the the limits and so let's say we have forty five leaders. I'd have three mastermind groups in that company to make sure that everybody gets a a good intense in immersive experience where they're able to all have some shares at some ideas without you know. Just having five people participate in the other forty not really get any value from from the mastermind. You pay close attention to how you divide it out and who you put in each mastermind group because like with my mastermind. It's it's twelve twelve guys that don't know each other at all from the in the beginning and we all were from all different walks of life and different businesses. And all that here you've got everybody's in the same company like how how free or how willing or people to express their opinions there in be honest in these mastermind groups knowing that it's like their boss might be in the group with them or one of their subordinates. Might be in the group. That's a great question. It's one of my fun things to talk about. So that's one thing in the military I used to do is is without trying to sound arrogant. I felt like I was great at building teams in so So when whenever we do that let's we have a group of forty five or fifty people we're trying. We tried to be intentional to make sure that not everybody from the same group is in the same mastermind that way. There's some cross level talk throughout each mastermind group. The other thing is is most of this Mastermind content allows people to both take individual notes but also kind of speak up and share ideas. And we we make it a safe place in Stephen Covey Dr Covey Son. Has this book called speed of trust and so we? We try to establish trust really quickly in our mastermind group and I've been successful for whatever reason to be able to establish that and what people find is is that whenever people start having good ideas they find out just because they might be a mid-level manager in let's say a senior vice president is in that same mastermind group is that the innovation from middle manager to that. Vice President might bring some enlightenment or the other thing is that senior vice president might say something that Middle Manager may have not agreed with the idea before realize this is coming from so they're able to establish that that bond of trust and understanding which really serves their organization. It's great so Germany if someone's interested in check out noble consulting. How would they find you absolutely so a couple of ways to find me through my website? Www DOT noble consulting dot Biz. B. I Z. and then Through my phone number is a great way to contact me. Seven eight five five two seven three four eight two awesome. And if you're talking to somebody that's looking to get out of the military getting side-hustle go prior to if they can Wanting to go and entrepreneurship when they get out. What kind of information kind of advice would you have for them? So three things if they're going ultra N- ship number one. There's this boots to business class. A highly recommend them going to second thing is is reach out. Please reach out to me or reach out. Somebody that's veteran. That have left the military. So you kind of take some dives and get an accurate picture of what it really might look like. It's not always roses but it's not always a bad spot either and then. The last thing is be financially prepared it is a it is a drastic change understanding all the pieces in flowing parts of cash flow in revenue to try and read books take some courses used lengthened best. You could some well. Hey Jeremy thanks for sharing your knowledge in information about what you do with consulting you know. Great Business Gladstone. Awesome for you you. One of the few people that had had a row the A legit side Hustle. That was Producing income prior to get out and then went right into full force. So good luck to you in the future and we look forward to seeing your future success. Thanks you appreciate it. Thank you for your time. You Bet right. These two veterans are asking my victory listening to veteran on the move. Your Pathfinder to freedom if you like to show leave us a review and I tunes reviews are always greatly appreciated so until next time. This veteran is Oscar Mike.

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Who do I think will win clash of champions ?

The big d zone

10:32 min | 3 d ago

Who do I think will win clash of champions ?

"Okay, this is Prince DJ and I have been feeling like myself lately though. That's why I didn't even go on home today, but and I have been hearing stories lately either so but I forgotten because of all the new coronation off for the new ticket Palace that's going to be going on in October 10th for Dave and then the fight between Wi-Fi and the post office and all that stuff situation and the song new NFL pick up. I haven't even done the WWE predictions like I normally would be doing and then there's pay-per-view off is class of champion. So I'm going to go ahead and do the prediction for the WWE class champion and off. Here we go. WWE Championship Drew McIntyre First Landing in even though Randy Orton in a yeah, even though radio is going to be no. He is Saint Louis native and I'm about to be a Saint Louis brand new Resident. I'm going to have to go with Drew McIntyre to retain his title, but they randomly might be able to win. You never know. You never know. So, who knows? Okay. I bought a universal Champion Roman Reigns versus ju, so and now I would have to say that I do believe Roman Reigns might be still Universal Champion, but also think that J also might be champion because who know people want to see a new title holder, but I don't know. I just thought I just heard one time a few weeks ago that Paul Heyman did a very good very good promo for Roman Reigns and I was like eight eight a minute. What the heck is Paul Heyman doing Roman Reigns ain't Wilma raised a baby-faced. You know what everything would do with cancer remission and everything like a garden, you know, why if he joined in Paul Heyman team, I mean, what about Lesnar? I love you know, I know I know off but until I find out that Roman Reign is a hero and Jay also if a if a phase I'm going to probably say Roman Reign, but let's J. So it's going to win the championship. I'm still going to go Roman Reign, but maybe you jail. So it's going to be a Babyface. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. and I saw it on YouTube with with the following him and doing a promo for Roman Reigns, but I was like Interesting interesting. Anyway. Anywho any rental Intercontinental Championship Jeff Hardy vs. AJ Styles vs Eminem in Orlando. Now, this is almost like money in the bank. So is it going to be like that except the Intercontinental Championship will be hanging on it. Well, we'll see but Just not Hardy is a high flyer, but somewhat damaged veins. Wow is definitely going to be a most difficult match. on here to predict But I'm going to go I'm going to see if Jeff Hardy can pull it out there for the convenient than that Continental Championship. I'm going to see So, okay. Don't Smackdown Women's Championship bayley versus Nikki cross. And as you know belly is no longer a baby say she is the heel. Well Nikki cross. Country kind of to be a face. So I'm going to go with Nikki cross on this one to be the smackdown Women's Championship game for what finally God okay woman 13 championship and Shayna baszler from the riot Squad. Well, the Jack is the hill. This is Shayna baszler Hill. I don't know. I mean the riot Squad but I do have it in like middle is Morgan. Wow. Dwayne Squad I'm going to probably going to have to say device glad on this one because if if live organ is in Wise blood. And now you're Jack of the hill but also seem to be live to heal. I'm going to have to go with Riot Squad dip to win the Tag Team Championship. Okay. So here is the wrong tag team championship the street profit versus Australia and Angel Garcia. Now, there's no doubt that the three prophets. Hang on hang out to the title for a long time. And there's no telling how long are they going to hold onto the title, but I think they I think they still got it. I think they still got it. So as to see profit. United States Championship Bobby Lashley versus a Pappadeaux carpools. No doubt. I want a new Champion Apollo Crews on the United States Championship side. All right. Well women Champion my new crush my new crush. October 10th, Salina Salina Salina. I hope I didn't butcher that name and why did put this match in a kickoff song Shell? They put my crush my new crush on a kickoff. She'll on a kickoff show. Hello. She's the raw women's champion. And you're putting in a kickoff match. Really? Really? Why are you doing this? You go badly at least put some one another imagine a kickoff man's other than after versus so the Lena Selena with a v. You put you put Mark. Oh hell no, you put my crush in a kickoff show. in a kickoff show really really wow. Okay. Okay. All right. I got not a math to oh, yeah, and I'm going with my Crush by the way. I am there's no way in in the gods Greener. I'm ever going against my truck off anybody know who I'm going to take the for the wrong women Champion. Everybody know that's going to be Oscar Mike Ross for the Women's Champion. I am going to get my crush Ain't No Way in the world Ain't No Way in the world that I'm going against my trust. No, no, no, no no, no, no. Not just now. He'll know or how would it is Joe. Did it earlier like not just know but prestige a package that fart. Oh my God, Smackdown Tag Team Championship Cesaro. And since K Nakamura vs. Lucha house party safely name that I can pronounce understood. Hello, I think Cesaro and 15. V a knock tomorrow will be able to feed Lucha house party, but you may never know what matches sometimes they could go through the right to the wire to the Limit. Now who know? All right. So wow. Well, that's about it. Of my head of my first prediction for wrestling ever ever since I got ready for or in the middle of a get ready for a brand new coronation of a second Palace. So then hopefully I could report the Sunday off. Yeah this Sunday, hopefully, yeah. Thought that they oh, it's a Sunday before I move. Oh, oh, hi. So this is the prestige a month out fifty country llc.com

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Episode 04 - Philip K. Dick's Second Variety Part 1

Curious Matter Anthology

32:38 min | 9 months ago

Episode 04 - Philip K. Dick's Second Variety Part 1

"Off off off welcome to episode 4 of the Curious matter Anthology. I'm Jonathan pezza the Creator and host of the series. If this is your first time joining us you are in for a full ride and to all our returning fans. Thanks for being a part of the Curious matter Legion. This episode kicks off our biggest and most expansive story to date and is part of our very first mini-series event. Some stories take only an episode or two to tell but in or Dodge do this next one the Justice. It deserves we needed to do something special as our first sojourn into the Realms of Science Fiction. We are bringing you a tale from one of the true masters of the genre Philip K. Dick's influence on the universe of Science Fiction is undeniable film and television adaptations such as Blade Runner man in the High Castle Minority Report and Total Recall just to name a few have grossed more than one point four billion dollars internationally at the box office our story second variety was first published in May of nineteen fifty three set during the events of a globally catastrophic nuclear war II variety exemplifies, the dark imagination and sense of realism that made Dick's work. So unique amongst contemporaries like Heinlein as Mom And Bradbury this story takes a modern. Look at the challenges of using combat drones and AI Technologies in the battlefield of tomorrow and ask the question what happens when our weapons becomes smarter than we are due rampaging Warrior robot sound familiar. That's because second variety is widely accepted as one of the seminal influences for James Cameron's Terminator. Futurism comes in many forms science fiction is often about the Grand and alien places technology will someday take us but for Philip Kindred dick. I think it was about taking a deep look inside ourselves and contemplating. What technology does to the human soul is its effect toxic. Is it elevating off or is it some curious and undefinable mixture of both this episode of Curious matter is rated explicit and includes adult language and violence comparable to an R-rated film. Our show is designed to be a completely immersive HD audio experience and it is at its best when played through high quality stereo speakers or headphones. So without further delay, May grab your popcorn turn out the lights and enjoy this epic tale of War Brotherhood. And of course robots. But you check five selectable 10-5 bility to send your to clear shopping center to clear Thirteen's Oscar. Mike truly happy with the actual think they'll have something other than that that slop in the mess. We got the drop today does a body good right? Not this body. Now, what's the difference? It's all the same shit off. Yeah, but at least the D rations look like the real thing you have any idea how many cons that shank for one real Burger only way you're getting beef is if that shit is glowing a girl can dream suck Tango Rich for hoorah. X Scopes up got them. This is Sophie to enemy sighted. I repeat. We have a Tango on Ridge for one foot mobile number appears to be an SRE regular one click and closing permission to engage would be to Hold Your Fire we've had reports of detectors all along the Eastern AV does tengo appear hostile. I got him laid off. Nine hundred meters he's moving pretty fast. Audio's up. Looks like he's waving us off. I think he said hold your fire. He's a calm down beat you does Target appear hostile. You heard them. He might be a Defector shut up Leon. I'm trying to think he's trying to wave us off. He threw down his weapon whistle actual. This is o p two we are take off. I repeat we are taking fire. So what are you doing requested permission to engage the negative Stand Down. We've related positions was actually have them in my sights permission young age. Negative O B two interceptions 7-6. I got two top floors and coming from three man this one off. Fuck you're a piece of shit. You know that petrarca. Actual visual confirmation of kill Pompeo Bijou. We're going to need you to Recon The Remains for ident tags, then our TV for debrief copy that actual we're asking mam paper tracker that sounded like a typo. We missed the action clause your swag tack on out near the fence line, man. I always miss the fun about time you two showed up. This mess should have been yours. They got spaghetti and fat balls again better. Hope you're well. It's hot gotta go fetch that meat bags ID tag Fight a fucking time machine, you know, what I would do go back and kill the pole march to keep the SRE from new can half the planet fox now then there's no war yeah, I fucking love more of the Clause. I can't stand I go back and find the limp dick for I'd good-for-nothing plug that first thought up the coordinated Logistics autonomous weapons system and I'd strangle that asshole in the fridge petrarca. Just shut up and walk. Okay, self-replicating self-repairing self upgrading fully automated combat drones who thought that was a good idea. What's the point of being Jewish it if something else gets to do all the shooting all the everything. I mean, what good is a marine that doesn't get to kill anything a waste of tax dollars. That's what not to mention thousands of hours of them in the various steely-eyed mind body and heart hardening devil dog generating Twisted Soul stealing training that is ever been forced on an unsuspecting boot. I am a diamond sharp titanium table. Laser, I'd Reaper a motherfuking death. And now all I ever get to do is sit on my ass and watch Twitchy get off fucking chaos. We're here goddamn the type boys don't seem to do they this guy is fucking sausage Gonzo's no way for a soldier to die. At least a bullet is a dignified way to buy it. But this shit out his tag. Looks like he was carrying this mm. A markten void packet. Yeah, did I tell you you're an asshole yet whistle actual returning to base? What's up, with the toaster never seen the type for hang around after the slice-and-dice? Maybe the weirdo sweet on you. You never had a dog growing up a freaky metal hamster ball shape dog. now where I grew up we ate all the dogs. I had a Roomba once though set it on fire that explains so much. Hey scram suck back to wherever you switch. He's go looks like someone just got themselves a pet cloth. Hey trash can I said fuck off? Can you get me confirmation on this all these said images of the aor weeks old Hendrix? Can someone point me to Major Hendrix? Yes, sir. I'll see if oh, a new ones. Thank you. This is a restricted area. It's off-limits to cities. I have a badge Priority One clearance. I need to speak with major Hendrix. Let him through go on Thursday and Hendrix. What can I do for you? Can Oda I'm with orbital R&D a skunkworks boy. We don't get a lot of lab coats on the line. I I hit dirt this morning, Can I do for you? If oh, through your first class all the way to the 80-yard line must be a good reason. Is it true that you're sending a patrol into leading a patrol is it happens? We received a damaged Optical memory card from an SRA Envoy. Apparently the Collins want to negotiate. What are the envoy know when you interrogated him. He was too dead to say I have a briefing in 2 minutes. Walk with me. Are you aware that we've been in a blackout now for the last six weeks three days and 21 hours. Are you talking set coverage? Is that why we haven't received any of the new troop positions. I've requested geonet Optics. The ODS. Everything is down. Well, that's why they pay you boys the big bucks right fix. It don't make much difference to us. Oh, tells us to hold the line wage Hold the Line. Everything else is just situation normal. Well, that's just it everything appears to be working all the Diagnostics come back green when we are locked out of the system. We've been working the problem 24/7 may have everyone trying to come up with a fix not everyone you're here with us. Mr. Hooda. It's odeh. I have you been able to communicate with the autonomous weapons system to call and fire missions the network as you said has been down for weeks back. We thought it was our transmitter. So we jury-rigged a VHF tight beam using an old cell phone tower and that works recall and Twitchy shows up what she a loving nickname for your weapon system off. I need to go with you on your Patrol. That's out of the question. The last thing I'm going to do is take responsibility over a city and cons front yard. Major Heinrich. Look, this has been a lovely chat. But right now I need to explain to 16 service men and women who have somehow managed to survive the shitshow of a war that instead of sitting back and watching is your remote control toys mop up with left of the enemy. They have to hope that 60 miles into enemy territory on a wild goose chase and do you know why they have to walk instead of writing in one of those sixty million dollar troop carriers parked outside because geonet is down. That's right. None of you Geniuses thought it might be a good idea to put in a driver's seat. I have Priority One clearance. I can breathe the name tag. I thought this means that I have override Authority Dennis something. Oh, said when was the last time you stepped foot in North America wage? I haven't been PlanetSide five years 11 months. They sent you up early enough for days after the first wave look major. I need to go with you. It's imperative. Turn Hood seal on Deck. He's everyone. I'm sure you've heard the rumors. They were going on a suicide mission into a contract. So some asshole can get another star on his lapel off that ship prostak know it's all right private Pro Stock, right it very well may be applied by the SRE. But oh, thanks, we have no other choice than to see for ourselves at 18,000 yesterday. We received an optical data chip in a mark tomboy packet from local SRE command the ship was damaged, but what we were able to recover appeared to be a rendezvous point and a request for a policy level officer to meet up a flag of truce eye in the sky has been down for six weeks. But our latest Intel suggests that Clause has been scoring Critical Hits on priority targets all along the line. Our best guess is at the scene of Russians are on the back foot off much of their chain of command in disarray. Our Target is an SRE Outpost. And what used to be an airport? Sixty two miles north near Ann Arbor or whatever is left of it. We are doing this on foot and without on Coal Fire support full battle rattle boys and girls to Days Inn. And then after the meet two days out, we are completely alone out there. However, plus sent type three. So at least you won't have to help your own gear. We are too far along in this thing to take any unnecessary risks. We do this by the numbers and get home the possibility of brokering even a regional surrender is a baited hook the UN is going to take a big old butt of and ladies and gentlemen second platoon x-ray company is that fish? That's what I like to hear how long it's been asked grabbing and suntan's for the last five months is the toasters went active but square that shit and put on your War faces. It's time to show the cons. What a real Marine looks like. If this does end up going pear-shaped rely on your training and the grunt on your right, they will not fail you on the flip side. If we are able to achieve our objective this Mission could Mark the end of the war in North America. Get your rest tonight. That's an order. Oh, and I've authorized 5 minutes for each of you in the commcenter. If you have someone call them. That will be all dismissed. Stephen sorry, it's been so long. Hey Sarah, they're sending us on a mission. I can't talk about it, but I might be coming home soon. Things are getting worse in the slums with the day after day. Yeah, I'll send more money when I guess it's been so long since I've seen how would I even do you live? Everything else will take day by day. Just come home to us. Hello, Allison, Rebecca. Hi. Hi. I know we agreed I shouldn't I'm glad you did. It's nice to hear your voice. How is the munchkin 12 and impossible? He stole a neighbor's bike had to barter away a month soap to keep it from the authorities. I was a terror at that age. I remember he's more and more like you every day. Are you still there? Did I lose? You know, I'm still here something wrong did something happen? No. I just needed to talk to to remember what was waiting. I have to go. Well, it's okay. Just be safe out there. We hope you are enjoying the podcast we are committed to bringing you amazing experiences in the worlds of Science Fiction and Fantasy and supernatural horror help curious matter keep going by scripture on the podcast platform of your choice and rating us with five stars today. If you like the podcast leave us a review and connect with us on podchaser or radio public. It really does make all the difference. This show is lovingly produced in my basement and Reseda California. Each episode can take as much as a hundred hours to produce and we can't do it without your help. So if you can please consider supporting us on patreon at patreon.com curious matter where you can get access to bonus content add free downloads of the podcast and even a shout out on the show. Thank you for spending your time with us. And now the conclusion to Second variety part 1 Quizzle actual Jack by Backstreet X-Ring copy x-ray, go ahead as in the last marker now copy that x-ray. We have you passing boundary marker or radio. Jamming is likely be on this grid Square don't have too much fun without us will keep that under advisement X-ray and look forward to hearing from you in a few days. Happy Hunting. You're looking a little green around the gills and a professor you are going to puke. Are you XO mob suit takes a couple of days to get used to but then you'll feel right as rain. I'll be all right. It's just been a while since I've had to exert myself like this. I just need a second to catch my buddy. They say nothing kills you faster than sitting at a desk and staring at a screen all day. I'm good. You guys. What about a con 70 Mike Mike battle. Just you pretty freaking quick don't mind him that ball of sunshine over there with the big scheme was unlucky enough to pull matossian that in the name head makes him thoroughly. Nice to meet you the lovely lady over there humping. The big stick is our resident Deadeye Corporal mookie Lyon just Lyon I'm fine. And last but not least that's sulky Whiskey Tango motherfuker over there is petrarca. Not usually this quiet. Hey, what bug crawled up your ass petrarca, nothing Sarge speeds private. It's the toaster. They just creep me out as often you rather be helping your own pack. He had a close encounter the other day Gonzo tried to give him a kiss really was it a timer you'll model like this one wanted to you know, actually did quite a bit of design work on the V ones. These have quite a few improvements of a my mom oval you built these things. Well, I I helped Mom know for the most part. They actually build themselves. You should be ashamed of yourself not this again. The system was designed to save lives. Not my life. That's enough. Cachaca play nice with our guest lounge. You should be on your knees. Thanking this guy petrarca. We were about this close to getting curb-stomped by the cons before Twitchy showed up says who Oh Come says anyone with actual hair on their balls Rook. Get off me. Pull it NATO the trucker. Get back on our flank. Is it true they built the prototypes on the moon? Well, it's classified. Well, we gonna tell I really can't divulge, you know, it's not really a smart idea to piss off the only people between you and akan bullet. I'm not talking about myself. Of course. I mean, I wouldn't shake you in your sleep or anything but we do know Patrick over there already doesn't like you off you and high command VIPs and other essential Personnel were moved to Artemis station early in the war the idea tax took out most of the first world infrastructure. So the UN fell back to the one place the SRT couldn't hit us off. This is really something you can't tell anyone holyshit. It's true. Whoa. Whoa you gave in that easy. Oh you you said do don't they give you guys interrogation training now sleep don't really let us out much. Hey roasted. What high commanders on the fucking move bullshit? No, seriously the professor over here just spilled the beans. No shit A Pressman. Did you hear this? Don't worry perhaps in all likelihood. This mission is an elaborate trap and we'll all get swept along before any of us has a chance to spell it to the cons. So your secrets probably say 75% 5 at least eighty-five per-cent safe thought books squadra spotted an enemy position two clicks Northeast on the outskirts of a town called Adrian. It appears to be abandoned but we're going to give it a wide berth. Major major Hendrix. Yes, mister odeh. I need you to redirect us back to Adrian. Why would I do that? There isn't going to be any enemy in that town. It was a regional type one drop point if there was an SRT presence there. They are long dead. Either way. Why should I risk it in may help me in figuring out how to get June at back online. What do you think lieutenants got that one mean access to combat support and Sky Optics if all this turns to shit might be worth it. X-ray and she has eyes on the Town Center all clear to move out date is what you all teams. Move up here this where you're welcome. This is Leone on OverWatch all clear to the West stay frosty people seem to get that out like covered coffee. I was securing extra day Easter bonnet figure all teams walk-ins x-ray. This is prostak. You're not going to believe this but I think I just saw a kid in the rubble. Don't shoot the first thing the moves left a lot of refugees behind when our forces was due to the 80,000 Sergeant Mark escort Mister odeh appeared he needs to see this. I think we found you type ones. I don't understand their empty. Looks like the SR you may have a few notches on their belts from the looks of these. Let me get this straight. Those are type ones the mobile factories the build all the others. They look like cargo trucks. Someone stripped for parts. They call their mothers. Someone left their shared up. Shut it you two eyes on the roof. All 12 superstructures are here but these weren't attacked. They were salvaged down to the last usable component. So the S areas managed to disable these and strip them for parts off. No claws dismayed at least themselves watching. This is where the mothers go. I'm not following. Are you saying this isn't supposed to happen? Well, that's the way we didn't program them to do this, but then they are designed to be creative. Can you translate that to something a little closer to English for us grunts? These type ones are dropped from orbit and then deploy all four of the other types the warbird small assault and heavy assault types and mules like this one here. Once they offload there. If you want to compliment the real test begins, they become the Hub of the entire system type ones are at their core mobile way. I operate a molecular printers. They can take Salvage components and recycle them into medium for printing new units. The mother types build upgrade or repair all the others. They decide all future design characteristics themselves and the interest of achieving their hardwired core objectives. If they dismantle themselves like this often means that they decided to modify themselves into some other form factor than this mobile chassis we built for them. So the system decided to change the design of the mothers. Well, the system didn't do anything. Each student is a wholly independent individual all decision-making tactical strategic logistic. Everything is made independent of any type of command and control. They aren't even networked in the traditional sense. And we had to make sure they were unhackable we couldn't risk the SRE find a way into the system. Our solution was independent thought without any type of remote instruction. How do you control them? We don't they adhere to their hardcoded objectives. And once those are complete they shut down it follows consensus logic. It's it's essentially blockchain every unit streams added sensory data to the others via an encrypted Cube and giving each month. I told your own complete situational awareness. If a unit sees another unit make a logical Choice based on the data. It will likely do the same. There's no command structure. That sounds like a dangerous way to wage war, but it worked combat efficacy is off the charts. So where to go. That's the million-dollar question, isn't it? This is all very interesting. But why are we here Mister odeh? Well, the type whatnot are hard coded to send reports with action summaries and new unit data, which you were no longer receiving due to the blackout. I take it the last communication. We received before everything went down was from right here why we should send you all the way out here just to investigate a signal come here. Take a look at this type three. The mothers are required to issue a serial number for each upgrade and new unit. If you look at the underside here, you can read the plate variety one version 3.1 revision 9 the last communication we received a data file for a new previously unknown hard fork in design methodology new units with the two prefix in their serial numbers a new variety of cloth students took them back with a request for full design specs. Then everything went dark catbat x-ray wage raise. This is f to our meal just jumped gear and it's bugging out west sir. This one to what should we do, sir? Enemy contact Feast we have a problem here looks like a full company. Branch one take cover call out targets and casualties. We need to make a retreat to the West Brook. He's gone and Thursday closing from the evening there a whole hell of a lot of them. We have another group of foot mobiles approaching from the West they're going to bump something if we don't move our gear and mo dream to grab what you can fax or mules load love eating James three lay down suppressing fire and prepared to withdraw North through the shopping complex odeh with me. Well put these on your XM up. We'll make adjustments for the extra weight. Oh, okay major we need to move this left me enough. Let's go. Team one and team two is inside with us between 3 is cutoff came through on me X-ray. We're going to have to find another way around I'm sending a new route to your hood there appears to be a highway overpass on the far side of the parking structure regroup their first on-site post up to defend a college way with inflating fire as the rest cross. Oh God. I got a got a guy first time getting shot at Cross. Yes. Yeah you ever fire a gun and works in Boy Scouts was a kid. We went to the range once see I knew I liked you I was asked out to this is an M. 31 caseless reflex personal wage. I don know kick left o guns just slide in the max point and shoot. I don't I don't know if I can do this. Don't worry. I got you just stuck it on my 6 and try and stay low one month outside. And if you see a con Point breathe and squeeze got it. I I think so. We could use a few of your pet robots to take the heat off our asses right about now. Any idea what spooked meals? No, I told you they were never on our side know they just don't like you for truck don't look so scared Professor with a greens will keep you right as rain. Ramirez report Ramirez report x-ray magic, he's gonna just Dragon Ball and me took breaks took an enemy Bragg looking for another route catch up off. Just stay down Martin Lawrence Bragg out off major. They have us cut off. You can't stay here sir. We're about to be overrun. If we go back. We'll get caught between both enemy unit. 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Navy JAG turned Author with David Grogan

Veteran On the Move

37:41 min | 2 months ago

Navy JAG turned Author with David Grogan

"Retired Navy Jag, officer and successful author Dave Grogan coming up next a veteran on the move. Welcome to veteran on the move. If you're a veteran in transition and entrepreneur, wannabe for someone still stuck at the GOP trying to escape. This podcast is dedicated to your success. And now your host Joe. We've US Navy federal many times over the years for automobile loan, so whether it's your first car or your dream car. NAVYFEDERAL is there to help guide you into finding a comfortable monthly payment. You can afford plus the military discounts checkout. Dot Org. To welcome Dave Grogan to the to the show Dave. You're a a naval officer, a JAG officer Also known as a lawyer or military attorney phenomenal author. You've got several books. You've been on the show before. You've got series of books You got a great platform. You also have a special piece voices two veterans where you like to interview interview, do one on one interviews with veterans so welcome back to the show Dave as a good review for those listeners, because it's been over years since you've been on the show, take us back to us a little bit about your career in the navy. Sure Joe thanks for having me today. I really appreciate you letting me share my story here. so I was in the Navy for just about twenty seven years on active duty I, was a Jag retired in two thousand fourteen I started off doing the things that. All jags do trying courts-martial I was both defended and prosecuted courts-martial, but then I moved out of the trial area that into more of this base, staff, judge, advocate, area, and where I went on to advise. commanding officers and admirals not only about issues that deal that. Deal with the typical base but also I became an international lawyer. So I concentrated on things like the rules of engagement and International Law I spent some time actually working for then Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Mark Asper He was my immediate boss back in the office of the Secretary of Defense back in about the two thousand six timeframe. And I would negotiated treaties around the world, so I paired up with a US ambassador and I did treaty negotiations dealing with the International Criminal Court my two favorite tours, and the ones that I'm actually the most proud of our One was a seven as a battlegroup lawyer, so I was the lawyer for. A Two star Admiral who was in charge of the USS Enterprise Battlegroup, and we deployed back in two thousand and four I'm sorry. Two Thousand and six miss that two thousand six. And we deployed to the. MED- into the Persian Gulf and got to advise on all kinds of all the legal issues that you would typically deal with Operating in Persian Gulf. Then a little bit later. I! became. The. Executive Assistant for the commander of US naval forces. Central Central Command in in in a nef sent in Bahrain and I was the executive assistant, and it's very unusual for a Jag to become a an executive assistant for a line officer. There was a significant learning curve but I got to I got to travel with them everywhere all the way through. All of the Middle East. We've essentially visited every country except for Iran up for obvious reasons and I also didn't make it into Afghanistan, but made it everywhere else, so that was just a great tour on both of those tours and I need to go back and correct something. It was nineteen ninety-six that I was on the Enterprise Battlegroup, not two thousand and six. Point. This is what happens when you get old So. Those two tours I really felt like I. helped contribute to the Navy's effort because I was out with the line. Officers Providing Advice that help them. Accomplish the mission and. Then I went on ahead. Some Pentagon tour's. And I finished up my career with the officer. The Judge Advocate General Abbas Executive Assistant to the Judge Advocate General for the last eighteen months, working in the Pentagon and spent the bulk of that time I'd say probably at least forty percent of my time there working sexual assault in the military issues dealing with policy and preparing my boss to testify on the hill and those types of things. So just had a thoroughly enjoyable career, but in. Two thousand fourteen. It was time to hang it up and hit ended the civilian sector. So you're very accomplished author, you've written several books. You have series of books. What what point in your career did you start? Get Interested in writing in Windy Jesse Release Your first book. So I at about the ten year point in the navy they send you. The navy. Send you back to get as Jag to get a masters degree in some. Specialty! So, my specialty was either was international law, so I, attended the George Washington University Law School in Washington DC and got a LFM in international law and there I had, I had this professor who taught human rights. His name was Thomas Bergenthal and he was. He's one of the most foremost the foremost authorities on human rights in the world. He served on International Court of Justice. and he's also an Auschwitz survivor, and in that class. It gave me the idea that I could put together a book that maybe would have a little bit of a human rights. seem to it, but do it in a kind of a thriller Genre that so that it might attract to to read it and maybe get a little bit of a picture on on international human rights, so I started that that book. In nineteen ninety eight or nine, hundred ninety nine using that classes kind of the impetus for it and I i. wrote you when you write, you need to write about something that you know about so. I picked the the main character as being a navy a retired Navy lawyer. Now this was a a ten year point in my career, so I still had about seventeen years to go, and and what I did is I I didn't write about me. I wrote about the lower I wanted to be when I retired, so that was the main characters name. Was Steve Well and I put him in Williamsburg Virginia. And he opens up a small town law practice in Williamsburg, and that's kind of that was kind of the driver, and then I made every single mistake. You could make a new author I start, you know essentially started book you know. When in stormy evening Y- you know with all the cliches in it, and I I would send it out to family, and they would read it, and they would say oh. This is wonderful because they wouldn't tell me the truth. Because I was their family number and and then I'd send it off. Off To agents and I started off with all the high powered agents in new. York, and of course it gets rejected each time because it's it's not ready to go so over the course of the next probably ten years I refined the book and kept sending it off to agents and getting rejected until finally I was when I was working in Guantanamo Bay. I was on a tribunal in Guantanamo Bay and one of the guys on the Tribuna with me. His mom worked for the New York Times and he said. She'll edit the first twenty five pages if you send them to her and she'll tell you what you're doing wrong. And that's what she did, so she looked at the I twenty five pages. She showed me what I was doing. Wrong I went through and kind of made those types of edits all the way through the book, and in two thousand twelve I said. I'm going to try one more shot at getting an agent and I sent it out. And, I landed in Agent in two thousand twelve, so that process took about fourteen years and I went through about seventy agents to get to that point well, the agent got it, and and he sent it out in it in a year later in two thousand, thirteen, a small publisher by the name of Camel Press, purchase the book They asked me if I'd be willing to do a series and I said of course and The book came the book that I book. The Siegel dispositions came out in two thousand fourteen. That's awesome I really like how you. You explained some of the process of all the typical mistakes. Most authors you know brand new authors make. If from time to time, I do have veteran book authors on the show, not so much. To teach you to read a book, but. Writing a book in putting altogether in marketing it and getting an agent, it's a very entrepreneurial process, so it's similar to a lot of other business types so. Over the over the years you've, you've touched on this a little bit already over the years you've you have learned a lot about writing books in it's. It's not just about whether you can. Put thought to paper it's. You mentioned after your friends. Your Buddies Mom Review for twenty five pages. You didn't change the story, but you went back and. Changed how to write at her from a different angle, or you have to really in order to write a book that's going to be popular successful. It kind of has to be written from a certain perspective or with a certain purpose If you just throwing random thoughts down, obviously, it's not gonNa work, but you thought you were right in a good book. But when you tweaked it with the advisement of people that really no good. Then then your books became so much better. Talk a little bit about. Over the over the years and all the number of books you've written. I'm sure you've gotten better at it. You know how transformed from when you the very first book. He wrote to where you're at now. Sure and it's been really a substantial change If you when you read the Siegel dispositions and it's a, it's a good book. I will say one of the things that my inish and publisher is. Is Camel press a relatively small press located in Seattle Washington they put out a very high quality, great looking paperback book, but the market is relatively small After about a year, my books come out via Harlequin, which is one of the big worldwide Publishers Harlequin? You may know them as the romance novel people, but they have an an imprint where they put out thrillers, and so my book comes out the Harlequins thriller imprint to the mass market. So there's IT comes out a little smaller. More like the paperbacks that you'd see in the airport and that's where they're sell. Thousands of copies what I noticed was that I work with the editors very closely at camel. Press and I I really try to listen to what they say. And I also listen to reader feedback, I really encourage my readers to give me a feedback but the editors at camel press. Helped me, go from. I would say more of a someone who was writing legal briefs that was the very factual, maybe bit not boring isn't the right word, but but but bland to to becoming more of a storyteller, and when you go from the first book the Siegel Dispositions to the Second Book Sapphire Pavilion, which takes place in Vietnam and that one was released in two thousand seventeen. It's an extraordinary difference between those two. and in fact that that one I'm sure most readers are most of your listeners are familiar with military times either Air Force Navy Army Marine Corps. Times Coastguard Times. So Sapphire Pavilion was actually back in two thousand seventeen when it came out, it was their number three fiction read for the fall cool, and it was just a leaps and bounds. I think now some people still like the first book better because it's got the buildup in the background to some of the characters, but the excitement really picked up. Moving into Safire pavilion and the editing also the amount of editing decreased when I moved to my third book the one that's getting ready to come out the hidden key here shortly. there was very very very little. Editing at at the and let me say for those that write books. There's there are. There's two levels of editing. There's a concept editor who comes in and looks at the book I, and says Hey, here's here's where you've got some holes in your in your logic in your story flow, fix these holes there inconsistent or something doesn't work quite here, so they thick. You fix the concept from end to end and that's really the most valuable edit for the hidden key There we went through the concept edit, and then moved on to the second, and after I fixed those things you move on to the second editor nets called the line at. Where another editor goes through line by line word for word, and and can propose changes They were almost no line at its in the hidden key So because I've I've really tried to learn From the editors each time and try to incorporate what they tell me and again the feedback from the from the readers in terms of the things that they like. It's reduced my editing time down. Dramatically I still spend a lot of time editing before I ever send it. I never said anything to the publisher unless I'm perfectly satisfied with it. but I've noticed a significant difference over time just by following and paying attention to what the editors telling me. Yeah! That's awesome well. Hey, we're GONNA take. Quick break in. We'll be right back. Your membership is a big deal. Navy. Federal Credit Union help you save money, make money and enjoy peace of mind security through personalized around the clock service. Their members earn and save an average of two hundred eighty nine dollars more per year just by banking with them, and if you're looking for a car with, it's your first car. Your Dream Car Navy Fed was there to guide you. You in a finding a comfortable monthly payment, you can afford with their other loan calculator. You can estimate payments for your auto loan, so you know what's right for you and your budget. The car you want is within reach with their low rates, enjoying easy application process military discounts anger decision in seconds. Get car financing without leaving your home. Apply online on our mobile APP or by phone. was insured by NCUA dollar vary based on two thousand eighteen study by navy federal, Mrs and data rates may apply visit navyfederal dot. Org for more information. are back talking with Dave. Grogan Dave Dave is a retired, Navy Jag, officer and very very well published author so Dave. Tell us a little bit about the entrepreneurial aspects of writing a book whether we're talking about over the break is. From previous authors is. Sometimes you if you can talk to a book agent time like what kind of books I'm looking at writing books about this this and this. What's the best way to frame those books in toes? What kind of books you're looking for to? What kind of books are selling you? What? How can I frame this? reframe that if you knew ahead of time? What book agents are looking for? It can really help you define exactly the approach. You'RE GONNA. Make reading reading your book. She can talk a little bit about that. Yeah Sure Joe? So. First of all you know. If? You can get an agent. That's an extremely important thing so if you know some agents, or you have the ability to talk to some agents that's fine, but recognize that agents also specialize in particular areas, so there are books that you can get or online search tools that you can use you wanna try to talk to an agent who is who specializes in your area. Area and can give advice in your area, and then if if they can, if they can talk to you and say hey, these are the types of things that selling That's great recognizing that that may be what selling now. What may be selling in eighteen months? When you finish your book, maybe a different thing, but at least you're pointed in the in the right direction. And when you go about getting an agent, it's important to have done their homework I to to identify the agents that might be willing to represent your type of work, because you'll be wasting and awful lot of time if you send out queries to an agent and say represent me in. Let's say like in mind is a minor thrillers. Fi send it to people that only do children's literature or Romance novels they're not even going to open it, and also it's very very rare for agents, especially when you're at the query stage where an Aquarius where you send out a letter, and you say here's what I've written this. Would you please represent me? Most of the time, the only thing that you'll ever get back from an agent if you get back, anything at all is no. or it'll be yes. I'm interested in talking. I'm talking further. But they they root. Provide any type of advice unless they're interested in representing you. So. It's important to do that homework. You can also if if if you don't have an agent that you can talk to. You can also go online on Amazon and search for the genre that you're interested in and see the types of books that are selling so that you can, you can look and try to frame your your book in in that context something that is also extremely important and I mentioned this a little bit earlier. Is You have to write what about what you know about so unless you are able to go out in and and do a lot of research, and you're that type of writer like your e your. Let's say you're historian so that you have the ability to go out and look at different aspects of history, and you can write about different aspects of history because you know how to research otherwise, you really need to focus on the things that you know about so me, so that's why I character. My lead character is a navy a navy attorney. And all of the all of the material that I write about deals with things that I'm extremely familiar with so they'll, it'll be. They all have a legal aspect to a my kinda right along the lines of a John Grisham. They all have an international aspect to him because I was an international attorney and traveled a lot They all have a suspense. Act Aspect to because that's the market that I'm that I'm trying to reach and similar. They have a military aspect to them. Not there none none of them are war stories but what they are, is they? All are tied to veterans and they have veterans as. Characters that have experiences that veterans would have in connections that veterans would have so those are all things that I'm familiar with so that when I'm writing the story, it comes across as being genuine and legitimate, and if people go to verify it, and and and I have readers do that they will look and see if I've written something and they'll go. Look it up and see if I've done my homework. If what I've done is accurate in which you don't want to be. You don't want to be a writing something that is inaccurate or doesn't come across as being genuine, because that won't be something that's accepted by either an agent or by publisher or by readers in general. Right? And so as as you not only have you become a better writer and a bitter author. You've become a better entrepreneur as you've gone through the process of writing multiple books. I I hope so. I would say a couple of things. I've learned a lot. When I? When I first started writing I thought that all that you had to. Do you get the book published and? Everybody it? The publisher takes care of it themselves and that's not the way that it works. The the author really has to be a business person. You have to be your biggest advocate in terms of selling so there's a couple of things that really really help, and if you are if you are an aspiring writer I would start to work on this right away, and that's developing your platform. How are you going to sell your book? What how you going to make your name known now? If you already if you're already have name recognition than you are so far ahead of the game, because people will recognize your name and want to read about it, but if you're trying to build that name recognition, one really key way to do that is by setting up a website. And I someone gave me this advice. In fact, gave me the up a book to read called Platform which I did several years ago, and and it transformed the way that I I did my website I set it up. And initially they suggested a good way to bring people to. Your website is a blog, so I started to write a blog and and I settled on writing about veterans because I love talking to veterans in hearing their stories, so I thought that initially I would I would begin. Just interviewing some veterans and writing down their story, and putting them out once or twice a month, and I, and I did that, and it's been extremely successful in in it now brings thousands of people to my website every year but I have to say I've enjoyed I. I think I actually enjoy interviewing the veterans and writing about the bet veterans as much or more than I enjoy writing writing the books, but what that did is it really started developing some name recognition and then bringing? Bringing people to my website, and then when they come to my website, and they read the the piece on the veterans Then they also drift around, and they take a look at at the books. That I've written and see if those things are something that are that are interesting and vice versa with the other way to people that have read my books. Go to my website to see the other things that I've written, and then they see the voices, two veterans pieces and start to read about American veterans. So that's one aspect to it of in order to bring people that name recognition piece. The other part is really identifying your market and what I learned is that it's it's it's. It's very important to figure out where you're going to be able to sell so for example because I'm I'm I'm I. Don't have the name recognition that John Grisham does. If I go to try to do a book signing. In Barnes Noble. Bookstore just randomly selected so like. Let's say that I wanted to do one in Kansas City and I wrote the Barnes and noble in Kansas City and said could I do a book signing there? Not only would they say no, but if I did go there there wouldn't be anyone who would come in looking for my books, because I haven't created that audience however. If I go to a navy exchange, an army or air force exchange, and I do a book signing three army and air force exchange. My status is a veteran brings people over to my desk where I sell and I have. I have an extremely successful book signing practice that I that I use army navy. and Air Force exchanges around around the United States primarily so far in the the central part of the United States, but with this third book signing I've got. I've got events lined up at Fort Bragg later in the year, and I was in the process of scheduling things when cove nineteen hits on the freight. It's I'm afraid it's going to take my I've got some events coming up at Wright Patterson. Air Force Base and Scott Air Force Base. I'm afraid those are going to go by the wayside but but that that recognizing that that was my market allowed me to focus on the places where the MIC, my readers might troop, my customers are and not waste on areas where there's little to no return and then, but when people read my stuff, they tell their friends, and that's how my market grows rather than me. Trying to insert myself in a place where I'm I'm just not going to have much traction. Yes, at the platform really not only allows. People to discover you, but allows you to discover who your true audience is in the the platform provides continuity in or have you been able to use your platform as well established enough? Do you have the mechanisms built into it so that when you release a new book which she just released one in April when you release new book, Does Your Platform Help Launch Launch Your New Book. It does help. It really does and and in fact what I do is I I and I tried to change the content on it I want people to keep coming back to the website. In fact I. I taught myself how to do a website myself because I found that it was extremely difficult to change the content and keep having to pay someone to make all of the constant changes that I needed to make so I I learned. How to do a website now I keep the content changing. Make sure that I reflect a upcoming events. a book trailer on it to try to get people interested in watching and learn about it, and then again the voices veterans which brings I make sure that I have a new veteran just about every month, and that brings people to the website, and then again they'll they'll. They'll scroll around and and learn about the new book when it comes out, and then I also have marketing tools on there like a mail list so that when people visit, they can sign up for the mail list, and then I notified them, and I'll go out and send notices out. Every two or three times a year because I don't like to. Overwhelm people with male, but I do talk to them about upcoming projects books as well as veterans that are the most recent veterans stories that that appear, and those emails are extremely effective marketing tool as our postcards for a book launch, and I think actually the postcards that I personally send out to customers that I've either developed in the past or people that I know. Those are actually extraordinarily effective as well. Yeah it. So. Talk about your voices. Two veterans project would is end. What exactly you're doing with it? Sure, so the voices two veterans, my mouth I felt really passionate about this, and that is you know at after World War Two? Just, about every other other men had served in the military. So you know by the time they reached the age where they could serve in government, we had lots of people in Congress, and of course the president sued all served in the military but now so few people with the professional military, so few people have served. I don't think that they really understand the veteran experience, so what I really wanted to do was to to interview veterans and I and if you go to the website, it's David Grogan DOT com. There's a tab for voices two veterans. What I wanted to do was profile veterans, and most of them are guys or women, men or women that. Haven't ever had their story told before. And that's why I call. It voices two veterans so. I interview them and I've had these interviews. Generally they take an hour to an hour and a half. I take really really good notes I don't record them. Because oftentimes the veterans, especially the combat veterans there may be things that they they don't feel comfortable. Saying if they if they're being recorded and I very careful to let them know that nothing goes into the right up. In fact, they approve the right up before I post it, but I cover their their story. It's it's if that cover. Cover a little bit before they go into the military and then their military story, and then there life after the military and I. You know when I when I first started writing it again, I as I said it was really designed to bring people to the website, and it was for customers of that potential readers, but I've actually shifted who I write it for now, and it's I write it more for the veteran and the veterans family and the veterans friends and the reason that I say that is. If you write a blog, they tell you that your blog should typically be about four seven hundred and fifty words. And because otherwise people won't spend a Lotta time reading beyond about seven hundred and fifty words, but I found that I I couldn't tell these stories in in seven hundred and fifty words, so I took the word limit off, and I just make sure that it I I right as long as it takes to get the veterans story across in a meaningful way so that it's preserved for the veteran and his family and his friends. Friends and that has brought not only has that that brings the family and friends to the website then, but I find that very actually then tend to share it more because it more accurately represents the story of the veteran, so for example, the last one that I wrote was Vietnam veteran and his historic. It was about thirty five hundred word so about five times the length of a typical typical blog, but. The number of people that go to view it are far in excess of when I first started and was just writing for the purpose of bringing people to the website, so it's really it's really changed the stories are much more intriguing They're inspiring when you see some of the things that these veterans have overcome and the things that they've had to deal with after their service they're just really people to be admired. It's amazing, so so there's really no no video, no audio recording. It's all written record of the veteran story. That that's correct what I am thinking about doing down the road. is changing it to a a a An audio, a at read the stories I'll I will re a podcast where we I will have an actor. Read the stories I don't want to actually interview the veterans and have their interview. played or available to the public again because I I want them to feel free to discuss what they want to. want to discuss without having to be concerned about having something. Recorded that they that they didn't intend to say. and I think it makes them feel much more comfortable. Giving I mean just one of the veterans. He was a Vietnam veteran that I. Interviewed a few months ago, toward the end of last year actually and he just called up yesterday to ask me how I was doing so I feel like I've developed kind of a Creighton. Camaraderie with the guys that guys and women I mean again interview quite a number of female veterans, as well both male and female, but I feel like I've got I've got just a great group. Stories I've got about twenty five I. think that are currently available now anywhere from World War Two veterans up through the Iraq war so far that's awesome and so any information about any your books in the voices. Two Veterans Program is all is all on your website with David Grogan DOT COM. That's correct. Okay, that's awesome. Okay? Close Times a Tesla about your book that just released hidden key. Sure, so the hidden key is. The third book series Steve Stairwells theories. They're designed so that you can read them independently you could start off with a hidden key without a problem. I I would recommend that you if you if you like thrillers that you start off with Sapphire Pavilion and you can always go back and get the first one, but the the hidden key. Key is the third one and you'll you'll you'll get. It'll give away a couple of surprises in Sapphire pavilion if you read the hidden key I, but that being said hidden key starts off and kind of the premise for it is during the Iraq. War the Marines built a camp on the ruins of the ancient city of bag of. Just leave. Babylon, thank you. The ruins of the ancient city of Babylon and and. And so I have a couple of CB's. That are that are building a berm around the the base and they find an ancient map and. The map has some history to it and and a bad things. Start to happen when they after they discovered so that's kind of the store. That's the hidden key. Is the story about this map and the people that come into can't actually there's that's actually true. I think I we're in Iraq and foreign. America over helicopters landed can't remember what they were doing there, but they had landed in five or something that was right there. At the the biblical Ancient City Battle Lonzo. There's actually some truth to that right Oh that that's that is is exactly true. And in fact, the map the map actually really does exist to. It's in the really. It's museum in London how and so it's just that the the actual map that's in London is missing the bottom quarter of the map, so these guys find the intact map with The bottom included. So that's that's the the key is in. It discloses things that people weren't aware of before. It was the man made of stone. It was so it's it's atten. China clay tablet made in the writing on his cuneiform, which was aimed the the writing of the ancient. City of Babylon that's awesome. Hey Dave. Close univer time. You normally ask if somebody's looking at jumpy and entrepreneurship soon veteran military spouse. What advice would you have forum in your case? You know we say there's there's a book inside of every veteran just waiting to get out, so someone's looking to write a book as far as. Just ask mechanics are getting the book written and the marketing and the selling and the promoting all encompass. What what kind of advice advice would you have for somebody for a fledgling author? That's looking to write their own book. The key thing is that disciplined? Actually write it and get. It started so what I did was I tried to write on the first one about five hundred words a day and I did that religiously every single day. the other thing is to Kinda. Give us an outline. Get an outline figure out where you're going usually what I do I know the beginning of the book in the end of the book, and then I- i-, I- outlined as I'm going through sometimes the. Writing down branches and sequels depending upon where things come out, but you need to have an idea of where to start and where to finish, and then just right every single day until you're done. Awesome, we'll greet advice. Dave look forward to. Seeing seeing the next couple of books have come out a Hick Sapphire. Pavilion was last time we talked about. So hope things are going well and. Have you back on the show sometime in the future. Look forward to your future success. All right, thank you. I really appreciate having me on today, you bet. Zones are Oscar Mike. Be Listening to veteran on the move your pathfinder to freedom if you like to show. To Review Tunes. Reviews are always greatly appreciated. So until next time. This veteran is Oscar Mike.

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