23 Burst results for "Oscar Bait"
"oscar bait" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Gonna have a little fun, and we've reimagined the categories and we've invited you, John and Terry to be our academy and hand out awards. Are you ready for that? Yeah, that doesn't make you Billy Crystal, Are you? Yes. I mean, dare to dream. I have, uh, the hair. He's still got his hair. I would love to be Billy Crystal. All right, this first category. Is something that many people talk about, even though the artists involved will never admit it, and our category is best Oscar bait performance. John, You could no doubt explain what I mean, when I when I say Oscar bait? Yeah. So on Oscar baiting performances. I always think of the classic example when the producer Robert Evans told Mia Farrow that if she cut her hair for Rosemary's baby should win an Oscar. For sure, Of course, she was even nominated. And in fact, Frank Sinatra ended up divorcing her on set because of it, But, yeah, it's the sort of performances that kind of seem like they're built in a board room calibrated to win Oscars. Usually it has to do with kind of dramatic physical transformations. Usually people are being rewarded. Let's just face it beautiful people are made to look ugly. And I think that they will win an Academy Award. So yeah, always an interesting category. Alright, Well, Terry, who wins your trophy for best Oscar bait. Well, guys, I am going for a rare, very rare alternative. Oscar's tie a tie post. I'm I know. I know. Edge of my seat. I'm voting for both Kate Winslet and search a ronin and ammonites. I mean, count them. Check the boxes. There are course it's there's nudity, sexual discovery and the most obscure profession which alternative Oscars and Oscar bait categories. Love. Fossil collector played by Kate Winslet. I mean, I'm Terry. I love the way you're talking about this. This this groundbreaking stuff we're doing when? In fact, it's really the first time we're doing all of it, but But I love the I love the attitude. John suddenly make your case who should win this Best bait Oscar Bait Award. Well speaking of breaking ground, a little film from the land of open pit mining and fracking Hillbilly Elegy, which sees Glenn Close, who has been nominated eight times, including this year and never won an Oscar dressed up. Basically, I don't know how to say it like a bloated version of Beavis from Beavis and Butt head on, sort of snarling across the screen. This is Ah, Classic example where you know these We're just people think they can splash a little mud on their face, and we'll all think it's terrific acting. But what can I say She's nominated, and maybe this will be the lucky year that she wins. But I hate to say it, Glenn close. If you're listening, I sort of doubt it. It makes me so sad because I read J. D. Vance is, you know on an excerpt of his hillbilly elegy his book there was in The New York Times that explain the Trump phenomenon, and I waited with bated breath for hillbilly elegy to come out on Netflix and has gotten so much hate. But let's hear a bit of Glenn close in the hillbilly elegy. Everyone in this world is one of three kinds. Good Terminator. Bad Terminator and neutral. You're good Terminator. Well, not always. Had to learn. I mean, if we had the award for best Terminator reference, it would go to Glenn Close. You would at least get that We know that for sure. All right. Moving on. This next award is for movies that set you up for one thing and then do not deliver on said things, so our category is most misleading title. Terry Hart. Name your bait and switch. My most leading title goes to let them all talk, directed by one of this year's producers of the Oscars Academy Award winner Steven Soderbergh. And let me just say he cast the always nominated Meryl Streep in Let them All Talk, which literally had nobody whispering level own talking. Yeah, we are. We are winning the award. For most times. Steven Soderbergh's name has been mentioned in the five minute piece, John Simley. Which title misled you the most of this year. Yeah, I gotta go for the documentary Feels good man, which was about the sort of Pepe the frog mean and how it was co opted by horrifying white nationalists online made me feel bad, so that was kind of a misleading title. I will say not to get hung up on it. But I don't believe you. Hillbillies are elegy ized in hillbilly Elegy. They're not. They're not moving on. The next category is best. Stoner flick, and you know it's a past time we're not necessarily promoting. We're just saying it exists, and also it's up for interpretation. It could be the best movie about being stoned. It could be the best movie to watch. While stoned or it could be a movie you watch about. Having stones thrown at you. So Terry Hart. Well, let's let's play a little clip. Let's stay on theme here some best come quick..
"oscar bait" Discussed on The Big Picture
"I always think of monster and charlies there. Which is the just the most crystal lake. Crystallized example of an astonishingly attractive person trying to make themselves finally unattractive for the purposes of winning an oscar. Yeah it's It's tried and true. And that did win. Charlie starring an oscar. So shout out to her. Those are only those. Are all the classical rubrics. I think have i forgot anything that does that. Sum it all up. I think it does. I think it is also a good lesson that anything really can can be oscar bait. If you try hard enough you can fit into one of these categories. I mean the only thing that is the only type of movie that isn't on this list is like a giant blockbuster and specifically a superhero movie though. It's been interesting as we were talking the deer hunter and the movies that then go on to have a major box office presence because of the oscars of we had this conversation every year of now do the oscars need major box office winner in order to to be relevant so some point you may actually have a spot like you kind of secretly already do in the last few years. There's one best picture spot reserved for like d- d successful box office movie that we can all stomach yes. I wonder if that will continue to be true with movie theaters real at any point in the near future. I genuinely don't know what that looks like down the road i'm looking forward to the oscars just generally speaking i i have to.
"oscar bait" Discussed on The Big Picture
"So you mentioned war movies. I organized this under a much. Bigger ten which is sort of the historical docudrama. You could make the case that there are there should be like bio pic should be under this tend to but i've separated them when you think of historical docudrama. You think more of a war film or do you think more of a like the post or spotlight esque true tale of of of journalism or of extraordinary events. When you say historical docudrama oscar bait. I just think of a winston churchill film if winston churchill is in the film than it is like peak oscar bait and that goes from everything to darkest hour which did when gary oldman and oscar to the infamous king's speech which did in fact feature winston churchill in a bit role. But it's just kinda like if winston churchill shows up Probably going to be nominated for an oscar. It's just in the crown in which case he's not eligible. Exactly that's true. We've seen a bunch of these in recent years. Obviously nineteen seventeen last year filled. This role done kerr capsule ridge if these movies are done well and if they're staged effectively and released by a major filmmaker or major studio they're almost certain to get oscar attention the the real event and or journalism subcategory. I find to be fascinating and has been quite popular of late. The post and spotlight and sully and captain phillips and sundry other. Tom hanks films well. That's an interesting one and we'll talk a bit more when we talk about actors. But i do think for certain actors of a certain generation that the actors involvement makes oscar bait. And i do think of it tom. Hanks film then. It rockets it to a certain level of okay. This will probably be nominated for an oscar. And i don't mean that. Tom hanks is are a national treasure. It absolutely no disrespect but i think we are a bit programmed for tom. Hanks even though he himself has not been nominated for an oscar very often in recent years. But you just take the fillmore seriously.
"oscar bait" Discussed on The Big Picture
"There's a lot of flexibility in this. The shape of water is not really one of my favorite guillermo. Does horror movies honestly. But it's interesting to see him kind of tort his point of view his storytelling into a form. That feels a little bit safer for oscar. Three billboards is a movie. That has a lot in common with hillbilly. I don't think three billboards is much better written At least from a dialogue line to line perspective and features an incredible frances mcdormand performance but as a similar movie about representing whatever. America is at a certain time and takes a lot of broad strokes. i would say recklessly. Broad strokes in terms of portraying the evolving state of the country. I don't think oscar bait used to be that. I don't think it used to be a kind of it. Had a political aspect but it was not trying to define the country and the way that the country has perhaps gone bad. Do you think that oscar betas changing. Yes i just want to say. At what point. How many times will you have to give me. The lecture about how shape of water was interesting because it brought monsters to the oscars before i like dignify. The fact that like shape of water was an interesting oscar. You it'll never happen and in one way. Shape of water is a really really classic oscar win because that was for the films of two thousand seventeen which you and. I've had this debate before but two thousand seventeen to me was the best film year of the decade. I'm gonna read some of the oscar nominees that you're in. These are oscar nominees. They made it get out dunkirk lady. Bird phantom thread. call me by your name tremendous stuff. this was also the year of the last jedi. If you wanna get into your blockbuster oscar whatever great film ear. And we're here arguing about the shape of water versus three billboards so like some things. Change and some things really stay the same in terms of the oscars and recognizing the center of of true film innovation. I would just say that without the shape of water. Parasites is not win. Best picture i would say that in that respect respect bringing that level of genre focus allowed for bunkering who also made a monster movie in the host that it did change things i again. I said the or not one of my favorites. Nevertheless i'm sorry to keep repeating my points. Let's talk about these these types. Let's talk about the the oscar bait you meet now now. You mentioned that the tea at the top of my list costume dramas. I wrote that. This is self explanatory and frankly no longer in vogue the costume dramas are certainly not as important a strand of film genre. As if they were to fifty seventy five years ago and you don't see a lot of costume dramas nominated for oscars these days there on tv. Watch these in four of the crown just tremendous speaking of broken records. Here i am. The crowd is like the best thing that's ever happened and is filmed quality but for forty episodes in running. Now shut up. Peter morgan. So that's interesting. So that's an example of one that has kind of evolved and his evolved out and some of these have evolved out in some of them. Have not i just mention this. This new entrant the support of the real america kind of entrance like hillbilly elegy like three billboards. I thought promised land the matt damon john krasinski. Gus van sant movie from a few years ago was attempting to be a version of this like this is how corporations infect small town people. This is how small town people react. Stories like that.
"oscar bait" Discussed on The Big Picture
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"oscar bait" Discussed on The Big Picture
"Amanda wonderful to see you on this thanksgiving week. How are you doing. I'm so glad to see to sean. Have you thanksgiving or early. Thanksgiving such as it is this year and the year. Lord twenty twenty. So we're gonna talk a little bit about hillbilly this episode because it's certainly inspired a realization. That are in oscar bait time and we're gonna start doing a few more oscar show episodes of this show because the oscars are close fish there five plus months away. They're not ordinary all that close. Nevertheless hillbilly allergy is a movie that has been tabbed on the oscar predictors sheets for a long time and this is an adaptation of jd. Vance's twenty sixteen memoir a sort of a reflection of his time growing up in in ohio and reflection on his family from kentucky and how they raised him and what has happened to america over the last fifty or so years. And you know. It's a certainly complicated book and a controversial book. You know. I had not read the book or even looked at it until i saw this movie but to prepare for this episode. I dug into the book a little bit. And it's an interesting tax. I would say it is not a book for me personally. Not a book that. I responded to <hes>. But the book and the film have a pretty significant difference and that is that the book is a deeply political text and it is sort philosophical texts. in a way it's a. It's an ethical in reflective text. About what can happen to people in america and why america is the way it is right now. The movie is a melodrama about a family. And that's more or less it so tell me you know you're from the american south. I'm just. I'm just a snotty easterner. Quite from kentucky. But what do you make of the hillbilly elegy phenomenon. Before getting into the movie i <hes>. Yes i am trying to be respectful here. So i wanted to read the full title of hillbilly allergy. The book which is hillbilly a memoir of family and a culture in crisis. My family is from a different culture than this particular family and jade is writing about his particular experiences and there is <hes>. It it a difficult childhood in a lot of ways. This is a story that touches on <hes> addiction and abuse and poverty and it is also about family and his personal experiences and so to that extent. Jade events has the story of his own life. There is also the sociological aspects. I did read parts of needless to say. I didn't particularly agree with the sociological conclusions. But that is life in america. I think what's interesting about. This book is the popularity it had it was a big deal and it was on bestseller lists in two thousand sixteen when it was released in early. Two thousand seventeen and it did become kind of one of the key tax in this movement of an music so many air quotes here liberals trying to understand the trump voter and whether that pursuit is useful or whether this was the book to guide that pursuit we can really put it aside but again it was in a political context even for people who possibly didn't share the conclusions of this book and this movie does not want anything to do with any of that and i think there are a few reasons why we can talk about but it is. It's pretty fascinating because it was such a high profile book and such a controversial book. I think that the adaptation adaptation just totally stripped that away is noticeable and it also leaves the adaptation itself in search of a purpose. And that was my other. Take away from this movie. Well i have several but one of them is that. I don't really think that this movie knows what it's doing. Besides as you mentioned in the joe possibly trying to win some awards
“Hillbilly Elegy” Reviewed
"Amanda wonderful to see you on this thanksgiving week. How are you doing. I'm so glad to see to sean. Have you thanksgiving or early. Thanksgiving such as it is this year and the year. Lord twenty twenty. So we're gonna talk a little bit about hillbilly this episode because it's certainly inspired a realization. That are in oscar bait time and we're gonna start doing a few more oscar show episodes of this show because the oscars are close fish there five plus months away. They're not ordinary all that close. Nevertheless hillbilly allergy is a movie that has been tabbed on the oscar predictors sheets for a long time and this is an adaptation of jd. Vance's twenty sixteen memoir a sort of a reflection of his time growing up in in ohio and reflection on his family from kentucky and how they raised him and what has happened to america over the last fifty or so years. And you know. It's a certainly complicated book and a controversial book. You know. I had not read the book or even looked at it until i saw this movie but to prepare for this episode. I dug into the book a little bit. And it's an interesting tax. I would say it is not a book for me personally. Not a book that. I responded to But the book and the film have a pretty significant difference and that is that the book is a deeply political text and it is sort philosophical texts. in a way it's a. It's an ethical in reflective text. About what can happen to people in america and why america is the way it is right now. The movie is a melodrama about a family. And that's more or less it so tell me you know you're from the american south. I'm just. I'm just a snotty easterner. Quite from kentucky. But what do you make of the hillbilly elegy phenomenon. Before getting into the movie i Yes i am trying to be respectful here. So i wanted to read the full title of hillbilly allergy. The book which is hillbilly a memoir of family and a culture in crisis. My family is from a different culture than this particular family and jade is writing about his particular experiences and there is It it a difficult childhood in a lot of ways. This is a story that touches on addiction and abuse and poverty and it is also about family and his personal experiences and so to that extent. Jade events has the story of his own life. There is also the sociological aspects. I did read parts of needless to say. I didn't particularly agree with the sociological conclusions. But that is life in america. I think what's interesting about. This book is the popularity it had it was a big deal and it was on bestseller lists in two thousand sixteen when it was released in early. Two thousand seventeen and it did become kind of one of the key tax in this movement of an music so many air quotes here liberals trying to understand the trump voter and whether that pursuit is useful or whether this was the book to guide that pursuit we can really put it aside but again it was in a political context even for people who possibly didn't share the conclusions of this book and this movie does not want anything to do with any of that and i think there are a few reasons why we can talk about but it is. It's pretty fascinating because it was such a high profile book and such a controversial book. I think that the adaptation adaptation just totally stripped that away is noticeable and it also leaves the adaptation itself in search of a purpose. And that was my other. Take away from this movie. Well i have several but one of them is that. I don't really think that this movie knows what it's doing. Besides as you mentioned in the joe possibly trying to win some awards
Oscars Best Picture Contenders Required to Meet Diversity Standards
"Since we're gonna talk about since we're going to talk about movies, this movie debuted 40 years ago. I don't not sure never won any Oscars. We can talk about a different kind of odds. And that is the odds that will be in your favor when you exhibit Perhaps the greatest comedy motion picture of all time. This is going to make it look like Raiders of the Lost Ark. This is gonna be the kind of thing that your Children because they did. I could look up to you now. I never could before. I mean, we made a lot of cheap movies for you guys that made a lot of money. But now we have spent a little more than we're supposed to. Columbia Pictures has spared no expense to make this fine science fiction comedy So they're talking about is that's Dan Ackroyd and Bill Murray talking about ghost workers that they put that out to theaters to convince them to show the movie it was. It was something they set out to particularly independent theaters saying, Hey, this is Ah, a little something you might want to consider it your little Arthouse cinema. Now you had one guy was one of the Ghostbusters was a black guy. So there okay. Winston was black. And and then one day I was Jewish. I believe Well, Rick Moranis was in the movies, but I don't think I guess later on. He was kind of an ancillary ghostbuster, the Reynolds Jewish Council's a minority. For some reason. Reason this is important is and I'm reading for The Times. New Oscar standards require best picture contenders must be inclusive to compete if you wanna win. The Oscar for best picture, and I Do You have tohave you meet need to meet certain quotas to do it, Which is the way all great art is made. Certainly we all know Novels, songs movies television shows on the best artist made with quotas. So they came up with this a couple of months ago. This is AH attempt to be more divers to be eligible for best picture of film must meet at least two standards on across four categories of diversity on screen representation. Themes and narratives. So the theme of the movie has to be inclusive of a variety of groups. And it's under representative groups, including women, People of color LGBTQ, plus people and those with cognitive or physical disabilities. You have to touch on at least some of those not only in the cast and they're talking about the main cast. Um I'll read from what it says in The New York Times those standards record, one of the least one of the lead actors were significant supporting actors is from unrepresented, underrepresented racial or ethnic group. One of the lead actors are significant supporting actor. So in that group of people that the movie is all about, you can't have if it's World War, one movie a bunch of white guys, No. No. You gotta have. I don't know, eh? A black guy funded through the trench er. At least Marriott cheap and at least 30 books. They've sent a mariachi band with clearly Mexican people to entertain the troops. Shut them up, or we're going to be bombed by the Germans. Then the mariachis district and you never see them again. Ugo. There's your Oscar bait. Joe Getty Hollywood Quota consultant from No problem I got this. You gotta touch in coming of age story sitting in Norwegian filming Fishing Village, a 16 year old boy and girl and love trying to confront their Nazi past. Let's see. Let's have the Globetrotters come to town and play an exhibition game And on one of the dates they go See the Globetrotters check. $100,000 at least 30% of all actors in secondary in minor roles air from certain underrepresented groups and the main Jenny called the Globetrotters again, and the main storyline, theme or narrative of the movie has to be centred on an under representative group to qualify for a best picture Oscar nomination, And they went through the list of a bunch of movies that might not have made it that have one. You know lots of Oscars, including 1917, the World War. In film or the Irishman that came out last year and was a piece of crap, But in very was a great movie. It was bad, but it was long. I just I just Go and find this. Absolutely amazing. Yeah, on this is from liberals. People who think art is important people who send their kids to expensive colleges to get our degrees. They want to have constraints on art. The Liberals do? Yeah. Yeah, quotas. Good luck with that. My loathing of Hollywood. Well, it could get a little more intense as it turns out, but just If if if it didn't Indicate what James Lindsay has been talking about that this is coming on hard in society as a whole. I could just roll my eyes and move on said Good, Eat yourselves. You're cannibalizing yourselves, And I think it's hilarious. But it does mean that that sort of racialist thinking where everything is broken down to your identity group. You could only get a job if you're this or you can only be fired. If you're not that, or You know, you can only move into a neighborhood. We have quotas and neighborhoods quotas that everything that's dangerous. Is there any chance that any of the older liberals because always talking about the liberals over 50 seem to have a different view of these things? Like a Rob Reiner makes a movie with like what you're talking about here, man. Just those Like, really stick his thumb in the eye of the O R. You got something, you know, three hour long Goodfellow State movie, and then then you turns out Henry Hill's wife, at the end of it says Not only am I leaving you but I'm a lesbian check. We're down here getting a Hollywood quota consultant further preceding three hours. She's been a lesbian. You just didn't know that was your biases. There you go
Why Netflix Turned To Junk
"I used to spend hours in blockbuster video a week stack of movies for the weekend box. Milk Duds box red. Mine's spread is good times. Oh yeah but all good things etcetera etcetera blockbuster died and a lot of the reason had to do with net flicks. Netflix meant that. You could have on demand movies and TV shows but you did not have to leave your house. Also no milk debts. Yeah everything has trade but Netflix was on top for years and then something happened stuff started kind of vanishing from net flicks and the vanishing started slowly. Show here movie there. And then it became a full on exodus now. Dozens of shows drop away every month. Net flicks recently lost friends. The sense cocoa the star wars movies pulp fiction. The reason Karma Capitalism Karma. I like that idea up. Competition that is the answer the movie studios and networks that own these shows and movies are taking them back because they are launching their own streaming services Disney. Cbs HBO ESPN and B. C. Warner yet and if your net flicks you might be worried that this is going to be a death knell because all your stuff is going to disappear your increasingly like blockbuster video right. It's like real blockbuster. Video you're losing readings and a bunch of competing. Video stores are opening up next door. Richard Cooper is the research director at on Peer Analysis which specializes in media research. He's net flicks realized it was going to survive. It was going to have to make a big pivot. Changing really who? They are from a stream of other people's content to studio in their own right. Because how do you stop losing all of your content? Make some of your own content and that meant Netflix. Had To essentially become a movie studio and TV network and it had to do that fast because it is bleeding that content by lead to start building those assets as quickly as possible and they need to build substantial assets and what I mean by that is critically acclaimed film and TV content as well as popular film and TV. Content has been doing just that. They've made big budget. Lavish shows Oscar Bait type stuff. Like the Irishman and marriage story. Irishman was. Your favorite. Right has so so many feelings but it was so long anyway. Don't give me sidetracked on the Irishman. They also made marriage story the crown the series when they see S. They've got a big sci-fi film coming out starring Will Smith they're also cranking out popular crowd pleasers stranger things when Paul chose goop series queer eye cheer and tons of filler. Like dozens of romantic comedies. Many of which seemed to be about. Sassy independent women who marry princes has a whole genre. Netflix you've not seen fads not come across. But here's the thing about all of this content. It costs a lot of money to make. I mean a lot a lot. We've calculated spent just as ten billion dollars. I was pretty floored. Netflix has taken on more than ten billion dollars. Worth of debt to make all these shows. And here's the thing. Last year net flicks made less than two billion dollars in profit. So how is net flicks paying for all of this after all its main source of income is the monthly subscription fees and it has to keep those low because there is so much competition out there and if you think of all of those twelve alarm subscription fees thank you? Add Up But no they can't find him sort of this. Simply through subscription fees they have issued quarterly debt mainly through the the side of junk bonds junk bonds. It all comes back to junk bonds on this show really. It does nexus funding. It's movies with junk bonds. Stranger things junk bonds. The Cram Junk Bonds Stacy's favorite movie the Irishman junk bonds. It is like a house of cards. That was junk. Bonds to net flicks is literally become
The Entertainment of 2019: Year in Review
"It interesting year for of the world of entertainment and in terms of the movie screen to get to this explosion of Netflix and all these other different platforms you don't have to go to the big movie theater unless you want the full immersive experience and I always suggest you also get some cookies because as the time of the year but just I think the wives with you enjoy the experience but but I know some of the things the fact you have this posted on your website James person dot com is the ruling over a declining box office because here we have all this if you know the big money is made international especially China will than that with the whole trade the issues going back and forth the editing of certain films so what's going on here is this eventually the demise of the traditional box office expectations in the traditional theaters another been saying that for years with new technology well it it's being yeah it's shrinking kind of traditional movie other than the big franchise brand box office because even though the box office has gone down for the fifth time this decade it's down a record number and the executives and the Hollywood met and many of them I work with they are living in a kind of a denial world I I they know that if these two technological things are you spoke about the fact that you can have a very powerful home theater experience now you know with everybody has a big screen high definition television you're bringing some robots was a I they could pretend like they're part of the crowd you know they can make noise going on cell phones whatever you like yeah but usually because Disney bought Lucasfilm and marble and they have all the biggest intellectual property ownership concept movies they took eighty percent of the top ten so the top ten films of the year eight out of the ten from Disney that's a record Disney also took in ten billion dollars worldwide in their film box office which is also a record but at the same time the box office is down the number of people go to the movies is down and I think it's not just because of the technology I think it's because of the contact and I think what it is is that there's these old concepts things like story characters people long for in his words of Martin Scorsese got highly criticized for speaking out against Marvel superhero movies but there there are more of like a thrill ride in many cases than they are white the kind of story telling that Hollywood became famous for and so because of that you know like the number one movie by actually number one movie of the year and of all time is the ventures and gag which is always the classic not that it's it's a bad movie I mean it's an entertaining movie buddy it's it's all action special effects sci fi superhero fantasy type thing and the others get in the top ten there's captain Marvel there's spider man far from home with the Star Wars the latest Star Wars wars installment the risers creek sky worker these are all from the same bill during it yet all marble or Lucasfilm in there these kinds of movies many of course you have sequels like Toy Story four and frozen was it the golden read books and we're gonna get more and more is that all is well yeah but some of that you get to the new generations and its radio Disney used to do as a by the way for the tuning in talking James person Jim person dot com is my second house over a pop culture among other things but you know Disney had a formula for years back to real DHS and everything else stay AT and into the theaters before that alone every seven years or so they would release like Snow White or something and then they'd go back into the vault and the they keep capturing new generations was masterful now one of the big deals this year's Disney plus the debt is just phenomenal with with what's there you don't really need a lot of other things but it's it's it's all available now so that's another example of how quickly the staff changes your inner exactly what you're talking about by the way for new generations of a new iteration was the remake it with live action The Lion King which was the number two movie any captured a whole new generation of of movie that had captured a previous generation so yeah Disney has the intellectual property so that when they launch their streaming service Disney plus they did something that a lot of people in Hollywood one really freaked out about and then they had a a movie starring Anna Kendrick cold no well it was never released in any it went direct to streaming we haven't even heard that concept direct just dreaming twenty one Disney does it then the people in the industry say oh my gosh this is a trend in the Irish men bad movie that's generating all the on her because of her the foreman should Martin Scorsese unfortunately it has that crazy man Robert De Niro at that but he's consistent and you got a treatment because his movie the molar report on ice the musical didn't do well this year so what is so loved that concept I really do I really do and I I would have given them the Laurie yeah I would go see that if Robert Muller was ice skating I would go see it for sure but but this one it went there was a lady and the tramp remake Disney which and that way director strict streaming I was mentioning the Irishman and there's another movie called marriage is story these are both Oscar bait movies after only one month they went streaming so there could be a new trend in that's good that caters to people that create their own entertainment peered at home and but the only thing is I mean I anecdotally I mean I have friends an average six myself I remember you know we were when we just had cable and all of a sudden we had out hundreds of cable channels and sitting there and I couldn't find anything to watch on cable channel and now people experience that they say oh I'm going through the cable channels I'm going through Netflix I don't see anything I want to watch so I'm gonna watch it's a wonderful life for the eighteen hi so that means there's a vacuum out there for I guess what we would call traditional entertainment and maybe family friendly which is by the way in the end that's where Hollywood makes most of its money because all the top ten films are pretty much the you know there there's no all over you friendly films at the most there's a P. G. thirteen type superhero films that have some action scenes chill Hollywood makes its money with family friendly films and then they attack families with the awards speaking of
Gotham Awards: 'Marriage Story,' 'The Farewell,' 'Uncut Gems' Lead Nominations
"Okay Amanda the Gotham awards what do you know about the Gospel awards they are New York based yes is Gotham is a stand in for New York and uh-huh well done thank you and they are an indie film awards and they always have the ceremony pretty early in the season and their speed teaches are often really vibrant and kind of make some noise that people are usually recapping them are doing videos of the acceptance speeches that's right the nominations are usually driven by journalists and critics whereas the awards themselves are usually chosen by people in the New York Film Community this year's collection of films is sure thing and I think it highlights the New York versus La Aspect of this award show I would say that this is a very good collection of films but not terribly represented of of where Oscar is going to be going this year so let's just mentioned a couple of the categories we can talk about what we see and if any of this really ultimately matters to the big race that we talk about on the show all the time so for best feature Lulu longs farewell The safdie brothers uncut gems trae rituals waves Noah Baumbach marriage story and Lawrence Ghaffari as hustlers now as a human man these are five of my favorite movies of the year you truly love to see you love to see it now Ah I think this list has been somewhat criticized for being the eight twenty four awards share and also Noah Baumbach a former eight hundred four filmmaker himself so there's a lot of lineage there but I don't necessarily I mean I think marriage story is pretty much a lock for best picture and you've got a chance to see it over the weekend so that we may be we can t some of that conversation talk about it but yes these other films I think the farewells probably the one that has been tabbed to have the best chance at best picture but do you see a world in which I guess these early awards shows do more than just you know sort of celebrate the films that we expect to not be recognized come Globes and an Oscar season or or do you think that this is just a forebear to what's coming I think this is probably people sharing their passions for the most part and doesn't shift a lot the only notable storyline in the future category for me as Hustler's being here because that means that people really are taking it seriously as a a capital f film in addition to a great kind unexpected box office hit featuring Jennifer Lopez sue and we talked about that a little bit of the time of Jennifer Lopez seems like an Oscar contender people take it seriously it seemed like the answer to that is yes in some ways yes but on the other hand Jennifer Lopez not nominated for Gotham you know just kind of fascinating what are you going to do with you ran does in the film community I don't know it is people expressing themselves yeah I mean there's a lot of very admirable choices kind of up and down we don't have to run through every single category here I think one thing I like about the Gotham is is that it does a lot of awards that I really wish the Oscars would do for example they have the Bingham Ray breakthrough director award and the nominees here are kind of interesting collection of people couple of films I haven't even seen Lord Clermont on Air am I pronouncing that correctly thank you can Jones's here we had him on the show earlier this year Joe Talbot from the last Bachman in San Francisco also on the show Olivia Wilde this year for book smart and films for burning came which is a film I haven't even seen yet which is yeah been released so that this is sort of like in the spirit of the indie spirits meets the Oscars meets the New York film critics are I tend to think of this award show and I think the award selves our health quite early at the end of this year as opposed to early next year and you'll be able to stream them live on the Internet and you'll get to see some of those acceptance speeches that talking about but it does feel a little bit of a lucky to be here kind of award Andre Holland you're nominated for high flying bird and be pretty surprised Andre Holmes nominated for best actor Best Actress Likewise Mary Kay Place for Diana Elisabeth Moss for her smell these are performances that will be on craigslist MHM maybe on your lists I haven't seen her smile yet I need to do that I will do that before the end of the year I'm saying it in public so that will actually happen and probably how do you feel about being in this moment this period of award season where we're like right at the were at the gates worth the Don excited I think you and I kind of went through a marathon in the last week and so we have seen most everything which is great there are a few outstanding films talk about and there are a few on my list that I haven't seen because they were at festivals and haven't really been screening for critics yet but we've seen a majority of things and I definitely just had a week where I just saw elise and I was like wow cinema I was very moved by a lot of films that I saw and so in that sense I feel hopeful and excited and you're like movies are great we have all the movies and then I started trying to make my Oscar predictions and started thinking about all of the politics and like reading from what Academy voters I had to say and it creeping sense of dread also and anger and resentment started creeping in so I would say it's a complex emotional time for me personally how are you feeling I have the same exact feeling as you and it's for that reason that we have decided at the back half of this show to make predictions make bold reckless quite likely very stupid predict predictions because as you said we've seen almost everything last week you and I got a chance to see the Irishman let me just tell you the Irishman is good. You should see the Irishman you had a chance to see marriage three yes we had a chance to see knives out which I don't think we'll be a part of the awards conversation but which was fantastic it lived up to my hopes and dreams have been screaming about it on a podcast for two months so those to receive we see something else we saw little women little women of course of course little women so all of these movies have now been put in front of us let here's here's a very short list of the movies that neither of us have seen thus more because we've done a pretty good job of doing our homework to this moment but so far we still haven't seen nineteen seventeen seventy four one film we haven't ritual Clint Eastwood's portrait of the man who was accused of the Atlanta Olympics bombing we haven't seen cats it's fine that you put this on this sliced by Mattia cats cats come in cat season is nearly upon us we haven't seen dark waters which I think is going to start screening this week we've not seen star wars episode nine the rise of Skywalker uh-huh I did read a bit of box office prognostication about episode nine today it was kind of kind of kind of grim interesting it was like this will is on track to be the lowest grossing of the sued thus far on its opening weekend maybe it's because everybody knows what's GonNa Happen I read some fan fiction or not some fan fiction no like can we just used to lead them into it yeah I read some fan fiction you know what I read some predictions based on nothing speculation is what I read about Star Wars that was essentially conviction and I got really upset about it I told you about this already we had this conversation with no let's not do that yeah but I don't know it people I it seems like people are interested in what happens I'm interested in what happens was the was it that ray is a rookie was it no it's Ray in Cairo and fuck just like the weight again pure speculation but let me go on record saying I do not want this as the really casual star wars fan who does can't remember the title of Episode Nine Not for me it's not what you want the only other movie I can think of that we haven't seen that is going to be competing this year barring maybe you're frozen to in the atom akara categories clemency which is Alfred movie that premiered at Sundance and has gotten reviews and I it was pointed out to me that there to death row movies this year with just mercy and clemency which is kind of interesting but that's only six movies between the two of US we've done a nice job hopefully we'll have a peaceful December probably not as we go through all of our takes which of these sixty think is most likely to to mess up the the narrative is we're going to break down later in the show I have on the document that I made I have one thousand nine hundred seventeen written several different times with like twenty question marks it was I just I don't know what to do with it. It is obviously a world war one epic with really athletic filmmaker gang directed by Salmon News which is Oscar Bait shot by Roger Deakins which is how you know it really is and they haven't they're releasing the behind the scenes rich of him just like running and trenches they're really leaning into we worked really hard to make us you know and it's a very showy style of directing yes their narrative is the effort yes which is an interesting thing we hear a different version of that with someone like Joaquin Phoenix and his performance in the joker we heard all about how he lost fifty pounds and he contorted his body and he I mean this physical transformation this is the full-scale movie version right of what sacrifices were made to achieve something yes and it's so funny because the the movie is not out for still another three months but I think that's really smart and the reason I have twenty question marks is because is it too late in the Oscar season to kind of really breakthrough because the people haven't seen it and the Oscars season is like a full months earlier this year and then was your so we're in a really crunched situation I think we have learned time and time again that it is harder the later you get in the season more crowded it is it's harder to get people invested in your movie you've just created a wonderful segue for our next segment let's go to stock stock down if it goes bust you can make ten to one twenty
'The Irishman' Is (Almost) Here
"Was a movie eight premiering a New York on Friday. You and I were in Los Angeles. We did not see this movie. We're going to see this movie very soon but it is without a doubt the movie news of the weekend and and then we called the Irishman in the Irish premiered to what I would describe as one hundred percent approval rating Hosanna. 's from on high what'd you make of the the reaction to Martin Scorsese's latest cinematic achievement excited. I mean you have to take the festival grain of salt. There is something something to this movie premiering at the New York Film Festival like on a Friday. It's it's a self selecting crowd self selecting group of people bowl but it looks like a lot of fun the all the images of Pacino Deniro and it's crazy up on the stage have an end at the party's he's having the time of their lives indicated to me that this is they're having a great time and that I think infuses the movie itself that it is something like it worked. You know we it's three hours. We didn't see it for a long time. We you know it could be a rehash of some things maybe but it seems like they will pay off on this one. It's not only three hours three hours and twenty minutes right okay. I was trying to be kind. It's based on the two thousand four memoir called. I heard you paint houses by Charles Brand and it stars Al Pacino and Robert De Niro and Joe Pesci and it uses de aging technology. Ag To make these men seen younger and that has been a big talking point of the movie up until people saw the movie was clouded in a series of your butts. I think all leading to last Friday the Airbus include the technology they include does Robert Deniro still care about acting can not go over the top in a performance format. Does Mardi still have it can Joe Patchy still speak we haven't seen him speak publicly in many years and it seems like all all of these things were proven to be false alarms at best and I think a lot of people seem to think that this is the front runner for the best picture and There's something kind of amazing to me about that now. Obviously the we're taking a mountain of Salt Raider point given the festival atmosphere and being New York and everything but still this is a this is the disruption right and we have not seen yet and we're very much looking forward to seeing it but we have not seen it yet. You know I I will say when the Oscars aired. What Day was that in two thousand eighteen February twenty something February yes there was a commercial for the Irishman debuting in theaters and on that flex this fall and I think at that that moment you and I considered it to be the two thousand Nineteen Oscar Front runner for and these things do it is a little horse racing it goes back and forth and so the questions as you you just mentioned you know would it live up to that. Oscar Front runner status and I think the answer is yes. It's definitely yes. I wonder if it completely resets the expectation of the Oscars this year because I was assuming that it was absolutely going to be a player now what this means is there are almost certainly going to be due to net flicks movies nominated for best picture need even three net flicks movies so you've got the Irishman you've got marriage story and you've got the two popes which premiered telluride to to acclaim and that signals something significant changing and a lot of the column writing and the tweeting and the sort of not that not the day of reaction but the Saturday Sunday reaction action I think to the Irishman including the Columbine Owen Gleiberman that from variety who reflected on I think a lot of the anxiety that Roma produced last year about the idea of a streaming streaming service releasing what may be considered by many people to be the best movie of the year with that means for moviemaking what that means for the future of the Oscars but the Irishman is kind of a mega sized version of that question or problem or whatever you WANNA call it. You could make the case that it's nothing that that this is a completely overstated situation. I wrote about Roma in that context last year and I think the question here is more like this is a one hundred sixty million dollar movie. No studio other than Netflix is going to pay for this movie. It's the kind of movie that I think. Actually we could do pretty good business. If you put in a movie theaters got great reviews. That's got a lot of brand. Names is a gangster movie could it couldn't. I don't know if it's GONNA be a five hundred dollar five hundred million dollar movie but it could be a hundred million dollar movie and so with that the fact that we're never really going to know that because even though it's going into theaters is not going to the big theater chains. I think we do have three or four months. It's now of Netflixing Zaidi to to to detangle with. Yes for sure I mean I don't want to downplay the narrative of that in last year's Oscars and in every conversation that anyone has about the movie industry right now you know I think ultimately people in vote for Roma because it was a two and a half hour foreign film and they felt like values were being shoved down their throat and they just wanted to vote for it. The the familiar feel good like Virtue Signal Inc.. Except Not Green Book. I think those voters will not think twice about voting for the Irishman instead of something else. I don't think Netflix will come into the equation that way for them. I just I kind of think the position that the Irishman has in this in this Oscar Season Zain will be less about streaming platforms and more about a gen values and it's like I said it's like can you Oscar. Bait and a lot of ways is an interesting thing. I could sense that last year at some point. Alfonzo Koran just got sick of having to answer questions about Netflix that after a while and he was in a very similar situation. I don't think that there was necessarily a company that would have paid as much money for his film. Netflix did to distribute at even though they didn't originally only finance the movie and I wonder if Scorsese at some point now he's probably not going to do a ton of press because he's Martin Scorsese and doesn't have to but I wonder if at some point he's he's just kind of like enough. The movie is the movie yeah. Let's just think about it that way but for for our purposes we do kind of have to we have to tangle with it in three nominees unease from that studio would be it'd be a fascinating test of the academy because marriage stories definitely one of the best movies. I've seen this year and it fit checks a lot of boxes for for the kinds of movies that Oscar likes if not best picture at least every category nomination wise and the Irishman is right down the middle new Oscar Bait so and old Oscar Bait. I mean I think that's the I it's kind of the exception in so many ways because it is on Fox because Scorsese and De Niro and Pacino and PECI. It's it is all of the old things there. I mean there's just you know I was thinking about. How excited my dad's? GonNa be just to see the Irishman and they're just his dad incor- yeah but it is also a cinematic triumph apparently so anybody who actually cares about movies we'll all be interested and they are doing theaters and that's like ages kind of four quadrant for lack of a better word so it seems like elastic section as opposed to like the future of movies. If that makes any
"oscar bait" Discussed on Hysteria
"So here's mine. I recently saw the favorite which is an artsy fartsy like Oscar bait movie with Emma stone and Rachel Weiss in it. And it is a great sorry. It's not just a soon. Rachel weiss. Also, Livia Coleman, isn't and she's fantastic. And it was co written. The script was written by woman. I'm Deborah Davis. Who wrote the script twenty years ago? So here's my take on the favorite. I saw it earlier this week, and when I Rainer theater theater. Okay. Went and saw a theater because I was like this is a movie about like female on relationships into our. And it also looks really beautiful, and I will say that it is worth seeing at the for like a lot of awards season movies are just sort of like I could've just like watch us on my couch. This is like CNN theater because the set is like opulent and the. Costuming is incredible before are great, and the acting is so good that you almost like wanna see their faces. Enormous because can you like everything they're doing fit to? Thank you. Yes. So definitely SUNA theater. I will say this my critique of it was that it was it felt too long for me. And the at the end I felt very claustrophobic and angry. But after I left the theater, I saw it with with Josh. And we were talking about it. And I realized that like the whole night for like hours, we were talking about this movie like that sort of movie, and I keep thinking about it. Now, I have like a movie hangover from it. It's an incredible film that involves like kind of women jockeying for power using their sexuality. But not in a way that is in any way for the male gaze and watching female sexuality interplay with itself with with other women and not have it be something that that's like. Oh, yeah. Men did this for for men is really really incredible. So passes the Bechtel test it one hundred percent, okay, choices. Character is. She's a force. She's amazing, Emma. Stone is always great alluvia. Coleman is funny. Like, the character doesn't have funny lines. But she deliver. She's just funny like this kind of hapless Queen Anne who doesn't quite not. He's doing the thing that I find really inspiring about it is that the co writer of the screenplay the screenplay is also really clever, and brilliant. There's like some incredible some of the best pussy jokes ever in my. They're very Larry the lead on that. They're very low key like there's one scene where they're talking about healing the queen's wound that is like this is a bus so funny, but Davis is a co writer she I wrote the script twenty years ago and has been working for twenty years to get the shit made. And it finally got made looks great. And she has some of the best actresses in the world involved. And it also is about sort of like the ridiculous of men. What's Jennifer Lawrence is X? I love it. That's how I know. His name off ski, no Nicklaus. Hold nicholas. Hold isn't it and he's fantastic. But he's. Dicusss? He is a ridiculous, man. The men are costumed really they're all very silly..
"oscar bait" Discussed on The Ben Shapiro Show
"It's an Oscar bait film. Ooh, who's excited. First of all nice Oscar bait you should immediately run for the nearest doors because it means that it's going to suck. Whenever Hollywood make a movie that is so called Oscar bait it is. It is basically just going to be a left-wing claptrap version of a mediocre story like the shape of water, which was just awful. But there is a new there's a new movie that is coming out, according to the Hollywood reporter. And this new movie is called vice oh, what's it about? What it is about? Glad you asked. It what it is about is Vice President Dick Cheney did we need another movie about Dick Cheney. Did we need a movie about Vice President Cheney? Of course, not. This fact is just the latest attempt to go after the Bush administration. But there's some telling there's something telling about this. So the again, this is not the first attempt to get the Bush administration. There was a movie called w with Josh Brolin which failed dramatically to box offset like a twenty four million dollar budget without without publicity and advertising without PSI. It lost money at the box office. There's another box office bomb called truth with Robert Redford about Dan rathers attempt to take down George W Bush with the fake glitter about military service that was a bomb. There was a there was a movie called. You're welcome America. Which is. Broadway play starring wolf Errol where we'll fail basically paid played George W Bush stupid, Jeb Bush. None of these films actually didn't in business, but that is not stopping Adam McKay. Who's the creator of HBO succession, and he also did the big short from taking on W and Vice President Cheney. So what exactly is driving this Bush left office ten years ago last I checked my calendar? Why are we still doing movies about George W Bush when the only movies anyone who's ever made about Barack Obama are about how he kissed his then girlfriend, Michelle Obama, and it tasted like chocolate, which was an actual an actual movie on flex it. Why why are we still doing Bush well became well because Adam McKay hates Bush, but he says that he went to a victory party for John Kerry in two thousand four and he says, everyone you could imagine was there Tom Hanks, Nicole Kidman will Ferrell says once again, we're like, oh, they're going to lose. There's no way you'd reelect these guys after the disaster. We just had I remember Frank rich was on the phone, and he's like it's over and within two minutes. The entire party cleared out. This movie is going to cost sixty million. Dollars. It's a sixty million dollar budget for movie about Vice President Cheney. In which Christian bale puts on forty five pounds and plays Cheney is a Maquiavelian devil who wants to send American troops into harm's way to maybe enrich Halliburton or something. The cast is huge. It includes Sam Rockwell as w Grell Donald Rumsfeld. And Tyler Perry is Colin Powell, according to McKay Cheney was far more powerful than w because w was stupid..
"oscar bait" Discussed on SRSLY
"More electric a new and specific to the individual i i'm not worried about such a road and for example not winning best actress because i really think she's already won it for on i just think she's going to again in a he i think she's she'll have a very good show next year with this mary queen of scots film young out souza she's got s she's got oscar bait stuff on the cards already yeah and i thought i would have loved for example to see laurie metcalf win because i just i dunno i think not nobody is unlikely that show get one again that's uganda the shot to get to get warm but just that she's a tv actress really isn't schaefer and she has been a long time and this is an unusual thing for her to have been nominated right now and it's an unusual performance and same with like daniel kalio like it would be it would mean so much more facade for one of those amazing performances i think especially like breakout performances where you have to be so much better than and established axa just just nominated yeah so t donyehiya timothy shot him a like those performances for me and laurie matt cough just would have men more if they'd an i it's kind of sad when people play it safe but i never wanted to be in a situation where i had a tattoo not one allison janney of fronts as we go into i know but this is the thing that i do think the oscars has this like long and from what i understand from the bear i know about hollywood history that this is a been a problem pretty much since its existed that they almost never reward the performance in the year they should reward the probe.
"oscar bait" Discussed on Lights, Camera, Podcast
"Oscar bait cookiecutter movie in i just i'm sure it's fine but i i i just don't want statue up awards from this year of fantastic creative movies and some being independent ladybird three billboards or movies that our original based on true story have original unique themes in ways they are done like dunkirk so the post posters baazar shit out of what as as somebody who has a lot of acceptance in forgiveness and patients in their heart towards movies i have to say you've set let this grudge go jeff it's been long enough money you're you're hatred is consuming you the hell out and stuff the if we loving like me while these movies aren't even out yet i haven't even had the opportunity to see these movies for these these awards come out these nominations so kinda cottages feel like the every man movie go or like me you and and ken jack are left out in the cold with having an opinion here because i really the best actor category a really don't know let's say everything i've heard about gary oldman darkest hour i'll let my the post hate hang for second in clear my thoughts everything i've heard is that gary oldman this role as winston churchill is iconic it's like legendary and it sounds like he will sweep everything the rest of the year smith my prediction but kenge equity thing any prediction or you can go didi our gary oldman is gonna say no gary oldman john lewis goes the only wisdom churchill i respect anymore since seeing him on the crown that was the best herschel performance of ever seen the mike myers play winston churchill an inglorious bastards who was egis 'nother ran a british as a random british at us wayne here now ahead of his mike myers been an easy easy when um look at the list timothy saleh may that sounds like a center that gets dunc'd on by vince carter in the olympics so no nsa as a random guest daniel day lewis stress eight and winning it's going to be daniel day lewis for gary oldman and again everything i've her i talk to guided night who talking about gary oldman and says that he's it's just like connex up got to see it but i have i for a great things luanda actress and they'll get to the picture categories quickly best performance in the motion picture drama by.
"oscar bait" Discussed on Scriptnotes Podcast
"Uh their employees so there must be a legal distinction there but i don't know what it is and i would like to understand thanks well the aim p t p is considered a trade organization and so this is a it's not just a phrase it's a term of law when it comes to collective bargaining specifically they are a multiemployer bargaining unit and federal labor law as has been interpreted by caselaw over time you know because every part of the national labor relations act has been litigated up and down the line the companies are allowed to forming multiemployer bargaining unit to negotiate with a common pool of employees and it doesn't always makes sense but a lot of times it does for instance in sports it makes complete sense uh so if you're aaron judge you play for the yankees you are an employee of the yankees you're not employees of major league baseball your employees the keys you're part of a bargaining unit to major league baseball player association that does not bargain with the anc he's bargains with the major league baseball teams multiemployer bargaining unit similarly in hollywood we do the same thing nick says the ceos of ford gm and chrysler can't negotiate with you a aws group i think could actually the choose not to and it makes sense in part because while the auto industry was once very very centralised it is no longer so hollywood is unique in the sense it's pretty centralized there is this very specific walled off pool of talent just as there is in professional sports which is the only real analogy i think to or cognate to what we have frankly it probably wasn't smart for the auto companies to not former multiemployer bargaining unit way back when the height of the uaw power but yes a long story short they're allowed to do it and they can do it and.
"oscar bait" Discussed on Scriptnotes Podcast
"But of course animals aren't people and they will do things that people don't do like eat feces us one of the big once we generally don't he's audie will do not in a movie you would know something's wrong or something was right like in pink flamingo overfishing and the great divine rest in peace so yeah i mean there's meaning there's like a crazy black comedy be done like this there is a movie at a new zealand i think we're the sheep went nuts oh yeah the harvey he's kind of you know and so like the idea of cats going crazy is kind of fun but so the black comedy anna or a bike sort of like a horror comedy but there's there's no oscar potential here for the cats they're just going to get better after some mild treatment yeah there there are the i got pixar version of at where like the cats does the humans are going crazy in the cats after band together like to say humans because they are the humans are the canaries the call my the cats realizes the problem coming right like the cat suddenly realised that donald trump is the president if you no no gotta stop them that's good that some as young was wrong here yeah yeah so we could do we could suffer i say that i regret paying a here knowing she reported regret never know regret ever that's the thing i've learned about the joining seventeen is no regrets regrets predictions will any of these things become movies yes i think my family slave is going to become something if it's it may be a net flicks kind of you know television only peace but if you attract the right filmmaker the right actor.
"oscar bait" Discussed on Scriptnotes Podcast
"But she loves him clearly and he loves her clearly and in fact a lot of the dissatisfaction and conflict he has with his own mother is because she mistreats lola and because frankly he loves lola more than he loves his mother they're stuff there now this is a minefield because we have seen this movie before we have seen the kind of movie where someone finally realizes that they have been taking advantage of and oppressing another person whom they love and so they set them free bus becoming the hero of the story when rookie they're not they're just kind of correcting something it's horribly wrong and were meant to experience they're kind of enlightenment as a positive but ultimately for the slave there is really no happy ending so we've seen that it's a challenge to avoid that narrative here because there is no great change for lola there is really only the sadness of an unfulfilled broken life yet one of the real challenges here and a diversion a story lola is nothing but an object she's a sunday who's i looked at but never serve explored internally and a dot is the the real dangers that you're not getting inside what her drives are because they're they're actually complicated in his own does seeing lots of moments where she kinda can't leave she would want to leave she loves the kids of shells wants to go back she realizes she has no ability to function here and she scared what's gonna happen if she rock the boat at all i wonder if the fundamental relationship is essentially love triangle it's love trial between alex his mom and lola answered that the very complicated thing between three of them because as loves his mom and it'll is lola but it's very hard to.
"oscar bait" Discussed on Scriptnotes Podcast
"Yeah is a fascinating story anti unlike the first story which is all like you know abstract sort of the big picture things this is nothing but characters it's all characters here and so a the reason why this is such cannabis because it's a way of exploring our relationships with the people who works work with us work for us and the sense of what is slavery of what it was it mean to have somebody be working for you but not be being paid it's also relevant and the characters are so interesting compelling the those fundamental question does when do you start when you start telling the story because do start tell the story when lola is centrally given to the mother so she's twelve years old you start the story then ambassador philippines at easter meet the the crazy grandfather who's who's abusive who like beats lola is when for something that the mother does or do you started later on started in the us with this kid who has that this nanny he loves and eventually starts to realize away she ashley is not being paid like this is this is sort of the family secret it's a fundamental different movie based on when he started do started with alex being in the story or distorted back in the philippines and come to the us it's a real challenge so this is the perfect example of a very shiny property that will pose an enormous amount of problems as he tried to turn it into a movie and again my question will these experts those my first question what's the relationship that we care about it seems here that the greatest potential is a of a lasting relationship that we care about and find joyon is the relationship between lola and alex she is his slave to even though he's a child and then later an adult.
"oscar bait" Discussed on Scriptnotes Podcast
"Iraq which you have our boss and even that they're on the same side they have to be able to but heads they have to be and i think that this is a mistake that i encounter constantly in screenplays from new riders they miss this big part where he we really do experience narrative through the lens of relationships it's how were programmed us humans and certainly our programmed does moviegoers and television watchers we need it we don't really feel this is something that lindsey taranath talked about a number of times including at ted the ends of movies our what we feel at the end of the movie is not elation at something having happened we feel eletion with a relationship experiencing joy in something having happened and so it's easy to just forget that park ride about somebody fighting the court and that's about justice and that's about what's right and what's wrong these are moral things you'd think they'd be enough they're not even remotely enough it's not emotionally satisfy and that's why you don't storace's ended landed at start ends with a everyone being together and getting their medals which seems like oh you cut that scene but they can't cut that same because it it's not star wars the haven't paid off the emotional arc of with us characters have gone through and that's the kennedy you'd be fighting for this movie is what it added carrots has been able to achieve together and what is that look between those central characters at the end of this story yes while you're trying to build to you get to this exciting courtroom conclusion and if it's just legal fireworks than it's can text plus it doesn't matter to us it's not in within the confines of a relationship.
"oscar bait" Discussed on Scriptnotes Podcast
"Some complicated finest people who've explained to us but there's also the is all the dealings on the ground and this is the dealings in the white house orchard of the bigger legislative issues happening yet it's a little tough to apply that to this because it doesn't this story doesn't quite have the global impact or the cliffhanger nature of that event it doesn't have a major market crash doesn't have mad geniuses pushing their crazy theories against conventional wisdom to be proven wrong amount be proven right but i like your idea of baby having our savior come from within i do always think about relationships what is the relationship we will care about in a movie like this and there is something really interesting that the bit the jd jumped at me was this one guy is trump voter and he's complaining about the state of affairs in this apartment building in how he's been screwed over in his apartment is neglected and the company treats him unfairly and everybody unfairly and he's told that the landlord is jared kushner and he goes oh really like they don't have enough money and it's a fascinating moment um fascinating part because these buildings specifically were these the baltimore buildings are in this interesting transitional co exurbs or does not quite suburb you know where you have poor black people and poor white people a lot of people getting section eight which is federal support for housing.
"oscar bait" Discussed on Scriptnotes Podcast
"Hello and welcome my name is john august hi my name is craig mazen and this is absurd three hundred into of script as a podcast lot's correcting and things that are interesting to editors today on the show is another round of house bmovie where we try to figure out how to adapt three stories in the news only this time we don't want just make a movie we want to make our parents crowded enemies jealous by bringing home a shiny gold oscar winner uh so we'll be any high with these allegations are plus the ansari i'm always looking for about oscar you know i've come so close so many times time and time again so this will be one for as as it will be ansari listener question about why the hell the pcb can do what it does well got a good answer very lease it we have an answer the answer was ratings were the dashes fancy concrete who's a news the follow up so the wta deal was ratified by the membership at ninety nine point two percent of members approved the deal that's a good figure because i want a metering close one hundred percent something like eighteen people voted 'no i think i wanna i would like to meet them curious so we promise that there will be an episode with chris kaiser will talk through the deal and sort of everything in the landscape of the deal and so we are still trying to schedule time for that so others people travelling but at some point we will have him on to talk through what's in that deal was not in the deal and sort of where things are in the process of us and the studios and film and television and he he used coming on were just trying to.