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Fresh update on "orban" discussed on Pod Save the World
"Okay so little goodness Listeners of this show that we are not big. Fans of viktor. Orban's the far-right autocratic prime minister of hungary. But it looks like he might have some pretty formidable opposition. This time around. Ben what do we know about this guy. Peter marquis zeh and whether he's a real threat to orban's or why he's a threat to oregon in the feed has party. So what's what's so interesting about this. And why i think it's good that we're highlighting. Its first of all the strategy. The opposition was really smart here. They have multiple opposition parties from like an established socialist party to the younger up. You know mom momentum party that. I perform my book To this guy's like a pretty conservative mayor Pretty small town mayor mayor catholic murphyt as rebound party. Guy who basically broke and said you know kind of never or banners and what they said is like we're gonna have one primary so we run one candidate to be. The opponent victoria orban in kind of one list so that we maximize your chance of beating him. The reason why that's important is because in the past or by run against all these parties. Divide them against each other. His party would only get like we're about half the votes but they dominate. Because you know he didn't have unified opposition. So the primary loud them both motivate people and get people more engaged in their democracy to have this kind of open competition for who would be the best person to run against or bonn and essentially then what ended up happening is already made this pragmatic decision to unify a bunch of different parties. Run anita logical gambit and then at the end people may remember the kind of progressive mayor. Budapest that we had on. They had a first round of this primary in which that guy got more votes than the person who ended up being the the candidate he dropped out before the final round because he calculated. You know what this guy's got a better shot at winning than i do or the woman who runs a social party does because she is married to the former prime minister. Who's like you know. Kind of the clinton family type like easier to demagogue for bonn and so it was this. This pragmatic decision of saying. Hey you know what this guy is in everything we hope he certainly not some big progressive but he saying the right things of any corruption singing right things about democracy and job one is get out and they gave themselves the best shot to do that. I don't blame. Ralph nader or jill stein for all our problems but imagine if those fucking idiots had not said things like al gore george w bush are exactly the same. Yeah well nets thing is is what the the the lesson here because people always ask me after my book. What's the lesson. One of the lessons is when you're in an existential threat to your democracy. Everybody who's for democracy has to just put one big tent over every party and movement and say. Hey we'll do debate. Things will fight it out but come election time. We're all just gonna decide to vote for the same person. The he tried to do that with smart voting in russia too. And that's why putin was threatened by that. The you know. Lean on apple to cancel the app yet in credit to the democratic party. I think at twenty twenty for actually doing doing them. You know bernie to your conservative never-trumpers Also just notable in a good reminder that since may of two thousand twelve viktor orban's government has spent more than four point. Five million dollars on lobbyists Mike pence was recently in hungary. For an orban's sponsored conference jeff sessions apparently went to although do you think any notice him that little elf running around Cpac is going to be there next year. Planning their agenda. Hungarian see back in budapest Tucker carlson anchor. Show there for lease. Sasha baron cohen. Can we get a borough at the hungarian cpac. That's not a bad idea. Sasha hope you're listening so anyway key one very important election that we will continue to cover here. Okay let's talk about haiti because there is some scary. That haiti over the weekend where a gang kidnapped sixteen americans and one canadian citizen who were visiting an orphanage while traveling with the us based christian a group five of the victims children ben ranging from eight months to fifteen years. So that's pretty horrifying. The wall street journal reported that this gang is demanding a seventeen million dollar ransom a million dollars per captive gangs control. Many parts of haiti the security situation was bad before the president was assassinated several months ago. It's gotten far worse since An organization called the center for analysis in research for human rights said that this year alone in haiti six hundred and twenty eight people were reported kidnapped. And that's reported. The fbi is on the ground now working on the case the state department's talking to wherever they can talk to and the government biden is getting briefed every day. So ben is a two parts of this one. The the situation for people in haiti is just horrible. In terrifying security situation as awful and the other piece of this is just like the biden led effort to get these americans back and skating citizen back and i was just thinking about how brutally difficult that must be. Because you're trying to work with the government partner. That is like barely functional. You're gonna have to navigate. These ransom demands of demagoguing of people. Who say no we should never pay ransoms under any scenario. Jason resigned talks a lot about the policy around this and five hundred forty. Four days complicated. This is but i imagine like this is the kind of situation in thing deck in all of a sudden take dozens of hours a week for the national security council. Like all consuming. Yeah and you won like how far Spectrum of options. You're looking at like yeah or their military's force or yet to ransom adjacent kind of You know Because some of these families you know like because it's the question the us government going to pay ransom but you punish people who might choose to do it on their own..
"orban" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Listened to western music in western style cafes but they also felt pressured to adopt western values on multiculturalism sexual identity and gender For many in conservative hungry this has been a struggle Hungary is a place where we didn't have the so called sexual revolution that revolution that took place in the western part of Europe or in America Natalya borza is a philosopher in linguists in Budapest who studies gender issues During the communism Hungarian people they were basically told by the Soviets how to live And okay 30 years pause but still we have the memory of what it feels like being under someone else's rules Hungary's nationalist prime minister for the last decade Viktor Orban draws on that sentiment to stay in power At a recent demographics conference in Budapest also attended by former vice president Mike Pence or band declared that he's protecting Hungary's traditional values The western left wing is attacking It is trying to relativize the notion of family Its tools for doing so are gender ideology and the LGBTQ lobby which are attacking our children Or bonds government recently passed the law restricting the teaching of LGBTQ issues in schools It was prompted by a children's book featuring gay non binary in transgender characters It became a tool for them for the government and they used it as a symbol of the western enemy Bold is our nag edited the book The government loves to visualize the hunger and society is like the best in the 50s before But I don't think that we are that conservative and that closed minded Hungary holds a referendum on the law next year Meanwhile the EU is now threatening to cut funding to Hungary unless or bonds government.
"orban" Discussed on Monocle 24: The Globalist
"And you're back with the globalist with me, Emma Nelson live here from London, where the time is just nudging 7 13 a.m. now the prime minister of Hungary Viktor Orban will face a conservative municipal mayor as his main opponent in next year's elections. Peter Marquez is seen as an outsider leading a united opposition against mister Orban, who for the first time since he came to power in 2010, faces a single united group of parties that includes a socialists, the liberals and the formerly far right now center right. It is the only way clonally opposition that they stand a chance of unseating a man whose grip on power has reached into the heart of Hungarian society. Or political lily joins me down the line. Good morning, Lilly. Good morning. Very good to have you. Just tell us who is Peter marky doy. He's a very interesting character. He spent most of his career actually in the private sector. And he was elected mayor as an independent in the southern city of hode mazar Bashar. Hey, in 2018, he is conservative, Catholic, the father of 7 children. And really an unusual character to lead the Hungarian opposition. But this is what Hungarian opposition voters have opted for in a primary last night we got the results. And he won over 56% of the vote in a runoff. His opponent, Kiara dobrev, I mean, how does she feel about this? She congratulated him last night. She won the first round of the primary. She got 34% in that round where there were 5 candidates. And what happened then was quite unusual in the sense that three candidates moved to a runoff vote, but one of them that second place candidate the popular mayor of Budapest GATK a joint actually withdrew from the race. He is a liberal leaning politician with green credentials. He withdrew and he actually endorsed Matthew's eye, the conservative. And that was because a lot of politicians and also voters on the left and liberals believed that Marquis died in the general election expected next year has a better chance of defeating Orban than the left. What is it about marquee's eye that thinks that people do think we'll be able to not only take on Victor or ban, but beat him? I think a lot of people believe and some polls have actually shown this that marquise is a place to appeal to undecided Hungarians and also to people who have in the past voted for Victor Orban's ruling fetus party, but have become somewhat disenchanted with his policy and politics. And because mad kizo comes from a conservative background, many people believe that he has the ability to reach out to some of these voters. And as you said, he is perceived as an outsider. He's someone who's vowed to try to change Hungary's political culture. So for voters who are unhappy both with Orban, but also with left wing parties who have been in power in the past, he might be an interesting option. I mean, could this united approach actually unseat? Orban. I mean, they are bringing together the socialists, the liberals, a formerly far right. In fact, everybody is united against auburn. And the chances of getting rid of all award. Right now, the opposition block and the ruling party's block are pulling back to neck. At one point that Matt is I made in his victory speech last night is that this is quite an uneven playing field. So the ruling party is incredibly powerful. They have access to a lot more resources than the opposition does. But on the other hand, or ban has been in power for over a decade, there are voters who are looking for other options, the opposition, I think, has been an energized throughout this primary process for the first time in a long time. We saw debates among candidates people exchanging ideas debating actual policies and this is an interesting development in Hungarian politics. What if all Ben wins? Because that means that Orban has not just defeated one candidate, his defeated the entire opposition. Right, so one reason why the opposition has banded together is because they say that Hungary's current electoral system, which was actually introduced by Orban's government. Favors the ruling party. So they think their best chance is to run together. And they didn't only hold a primary for the post of prime minister. They actually earlier this fall health primaries to pick out unity candidates in each of the countries 106 electoral districts. So the idea is that in every electoral district, there will be one opposition candidate in one place in some places, it's illiberal in some places that someone sent to right and so on. And those people will be facing local fetus candidates. So it's a very interesting experiment. Of course, it's unclear if it'll work. But I think the opposition now is better place than they have been in a very long time to actually pose a credible challenge to Orban's power. This stretch is so much further than Hungary's borders, though, doesn't it? I mean, we have Victor Orban. Arguably wanting to be the leader of the right, the far right in Europe with influences in Italy influence and influences in Poland. This is an election which does not just affect Hungary is it. Isn't it? Yes, so Orban has been trying to present himself as a kind of intellectual leader of the European conservative movement. He has been inviting a lot of far right and conservative politicians to visit Hungary and he has been building relationships with far right political parties across the continent and even also of conservatives in the United States. So what is fascinating actually about the opposition's choice of marquee side is that now Orban is facing an opposition that is led by a conservative. And it might be harder for him to present himself as kind of a conservative voice when his own chief critic at home is someone who in his own words has been a conservative for much longer than Orban. Lily, thank you so much for joining us on monocle 24 still to come on today's program. We'll examine Emmanuel Macron's reelection hopes and will flip through the morning's newspapers. Stay with us on the globalist..
Pope to Orban's Hungary: Open Your Arms to Everyone
"Hey Francis is started the first of a four day tour of central Europe by visiting Hungary the pontiff's visit to the capital Budapest was welcomed by knowledge crowds as he presided over massive over a hundred thousand people he had the mass promises us Hungary and then now owns towards everyone the need is seen as a veiled critique of prime minister Viktor Orban's anti migrant policies the two leaders did however need to be it for a short period of time organizers say the meeting was cordial even though opens anti migrant policy clashes with the pope's cool for welcome and integration of those seeking better lives in Europe at a meeting with Jewish and Christian I did it against a resurgence of anti semitism in Europe I think this is roughly about seven two little delighting in Europe and elsewhere this is a few not allowed to best band time Karen Thomas
"orban" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Budapest today. He also met with Viktor Orban, Hungary's prime minister. Whose hardline stance on migration clashes with the pope's calls for refugees to be welcomed. Orban has said that he is defending Hungary's Christian identity, Francis said today That Hungary can preserve its Christian roots while opening up to the needy. Andre All, Snyder. This is NPR news. Support for NPR comes from NPR stations. Other contributors include Subaru with the 2021 Subaru Forrester featuring standard symmetrical all wheel drive and safety. Technology. Love. It's what makes Subaru Subaru Learn more at Subaru dot com. This is weekend edition from NPR News. I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro. Good morning, even though the number of confirmed Covid cases has fallen slightly daily deaths are up. This disease still has a firm grip on the United States with parts of this country experiencing intense outbreaks in northern Idaho. At least 10 hospitals are so overwhelmed that they began rationing care for everyone last week, regardless of diagnosis. Many people in that part of the state are mistrustful of health authorities as Nate Heggie of the Mountain West News Bureau.
Texas Legislature Passes Sweeping Election Bill
"Are coming to Texas. The State House and Senate have agreed on a final version of the GOP backed elections bill It's now headed to governor. Abbott of the bill enhances ID requirements for mail in ballots as protection for poll watchers and Orban drive through and overnight voting. Texas
Republicans Compare Viktor Orban to Communists
"Tucker. Carlson went to hungary last week. As many of you know. He was the speaker on saturday at a conference of young conservatives from all over europe especially eastern europe in depeche and i was the speaker of the day before and he has been an eye as well but he much more as attacked because he had viktor orban's on his program. There are bond is the head of of hungary so this is what they say. Give you an idea of the low level of the never-trumper world so these putative republicans condemned us for going. We are no different than leftists. Who went to communist countries. I know virtually all of these people. And i must tell you. My disappointment in moral idiocy is deep. You have no idea how. Well i know. Some of them and one for forty years to compare or monto communism. You can hate her. Bundle your life or are there Torture chambers and hungary like they weren't hungary and communism the that many people the communist killed in eastern europe is is he murdering people in in hungary. How about a basic thing like this. There was no way you could travel. Outside of the communist bloc when eastern europe was communist a hungarian has the freedom to travel anywhere in the world. The comparison of victor oregon to communists is another example of people trivializing communist evil. It's like comparing people to nazis. All you do is trivial is nazi evil.
"orban" Discussed on Pod Save the World
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"orban" Discussed on Pod Save the World
"We identified that. Very crucial media. Company owners have been spied on by the audubon government and one of them Embargo who owns Currency two largest hungering independent new site has been telling you about Blackmail pressure throughout the years. Coming from the obama government. They tried to pressure him to sell his media. portfolio to people close to the prime minister. So what we expect now that the election campaign is Is nearing is that such pressure. On on other media company will will just be bigger And we also see Very specific a smear campaigns dyer today journalist individually like myself and and others. We're going to be smeared as agents of As agents of the cia You name it and this is because we're going to have the first competitive elections. Since i believe two thousand six probably now hungary. Opposition has united They're gonna put out a joint populist and one candidate for prime minister who would be seen as the the main rival of viktor orban So the only way Forty or government to try to Vendor selection is basically to to try to to suppress the remainder of the free media so that there would be no airtime and those space Given to any other voice governments. Well we'd love to come back to you later in the election campaign. That's heating up to get your sense of that but but thanks so much for joining us. You guys are crowd funded in part at direct thirty six thirty six. It's it's a small nonprofit My my bosses used to be the the editor in chief and a senior investigative reporter of hungary's largest new site which is not now a propaganda tool of the government. they were fired and and they They left their job to establish a small nonprofit core dietary six so basically of your crowd funded through small donations. Well i you know k key people support it or is it just from within hungary. No no no. Of course we we publish everything in english as well so we so read your work in english but i i think i encourage listeners. Both to redirect thirty six Because as you can see several is reporting is not just about hungary. It's about the nexus of all these different forces and if people can can support you guys They should because it's important to make sure that that were backing Independent journalism everywhere. But thanks. thanks so much for joining us and we'll look for being back in touch..
"orban" Discussed on Pod Save the World
"You know crypto utopian late stage capitalists kind of messaging. Right i mean like honestly if you if you tried to write a dystopia and book about capitalism going to space like fifty years ago and came up with the premise that in twenty the twenty twenty space would become a place where billionaires have dick measuring contests. About how high up they can go and rockets that they paid for personally and then crypto guys. We're broadcasting adds that the that that aliens like. What does the impression that we're giving these ailing civilizations who are studying us you know. Can you matter thing that they're looking at us from like a couple of galaxies over there some really smart beings who've been studying us like you know like mice in you know in a laboratory and what they see is climate change happening. They see these people burning this beautiful planet. They have while billionaires flying up into space and then figure out ways to sell advertising there rather than dealing with the climate crisis like can we just get the priorities in the right order cannot be compatible with capitalism. Please because of it's not like we are going to burn ourselves to death ear building satellites with southeast. What what's your money on for the first at I'm i'm assuming some sort of to peanuts. Drawing would be my money but you mentioned like techno utopian. So jack dorsey tweeted. Yesterday actually wrote this down. Bitcoin will unite a deeply divided country and eventually world of the end of his tweet and maybe so unbelievably mad. Because i just finished an ugly truth. Which is the new york times reporter book facebook in a details all the ways that the silicon valley naive techno utopianism lead to decisions and real world. Harm like doing nothing but hate speech and the us. Burma anti vaccine disenfranchised cetera. In like actually. Like jack dorsey. I think he's smart and he's seems like a good person but these same guys now wants to trust them when it comes to creating like digital currency or artificial intelligence or whatever the next thing is in like i don't think they realize how pissed off people are advantage. How little they deserve our trust in like i'm just i'm done with taking his gospel. Cultish belief that whatever. Some tech ceo says is accurate especially when they have like a clear financial interest in us believing their bullshit whether it's space or bitcoin. I know a bitcoin grows are gonna yell at us. Always do in twitter but like give me a break. y- i like the cautionary the world. Yeah but the cautionary note. I'd say like to this crypto. Utopianism is is the same when you did which is techno utopianism is not worked out. Well you know and there might be some good things about crypto in the same way that there's some good things about social media but you know when you allow yourself to be convinced that you have the answer to all the world's problems whether you're in politics or your entrepreneur tends to lead to some pretty difficult places and look the reality of this too is. I've been going a little bit deeper in this recently. You know there's some interesting things about crypto right but the totalitarian governments china are not just going to sit there and The argument is this could be a way that dissidents in china can have different currency. Or the already. You've seen the chinese say we're not going to deal with bitcoin. We're gonna start our own minds we're gonna set up our own crypto because of course that's what they're gonna do that's what any totalitarian governments going to do and then of course with the. Us governments can do and say we're going to have to regulate this because we don't know what people are laundering through this. Who's washing dirty money through this. Never mind that's not tax and so it starts to migrate to the kind of offshore haven type places and and and yeah like i think that the the point for the crypto people before they yell at us like make your case. There's some good arguments about the potential for crypto but this has not been thought through in a way that deals with the reality of the world as it is you know and and Yeah i saw that tweet. And i saw you kind of take that on. 'cause i get jack. Dorsey is usually slightly more thoughtful. Guy than than some of these other tech guys. But y- years this tendency to kind of hype. Whatever the next ideas without leveling with the downside risks and there's always downside risk and here's the downside risks for clear like this can be manipulated by criminals commute to launder money. Like just you have to deal with that right. Make your case like there's no circumstance in which going to unite a deeply divided country. It's bitcoin man. It's just it's just. I mean it can unite to shut up. It's like crypto investors. You know like yeah. But then jack dorsey and his summer house. He'll point then. Because you're gonna have these guys who you know running up the price and then crashing it. So they can make money like i don't know i feel like that's just eating just rain it. Just chill with the hyperbole. That's another venue for capitalism. That's what it is. I mean you just don't Okay we are going to take a quick break. We come back. We will hear ben's interview about hungary and viktor orban's in tucker carlson and the awful Uniting of these right wing schmucks globally so stick around for that..
"orban" Discussed on Pod Save the World
"But you know government cdot first so you know this study is especially valuable because it draws this link between extreme weather events and climate change. That is important is a lot of people don't do that. They don't think climate change impact them personally. But i think here's the big question the next. Un climate change conference is coming up in november. Do you think this report will do enough to get the world to come together and to act like enacted the scale. That's necessary because you know we've seen That not necessarily happen in some of the recent summits i mean. I had a lot of thoughts and feelings in reading the summaries of this report the first is. I don't think you can emphasize enough. How selfish reckless shortsighted and and really cruel. The climate denial ism in governments like our own has been over the years. I mean like what is it gonna look like to future generations at like donald trump stood up in like pull out of the paris agreement and said he cared about pittsburgh and not perez and ended it that our politics. I mean to do a little media chris. I'm here covers that as if it's like. Oh that's a valid political argument. You know like this evidence has been clear for decades and we've literally had people obstructing climate action not just refusing to join it but like even the infrastructure bill the pass a day. They had to pass a bill. That could get bipartisan support. The basically stripped out most of the important climate provisions because god forbid any even moderate. Republican would have to vote for that. That is gonna look insane I mean i don't like i. It's hard to get your mind negligence. Think the second point then that leads to his alike you know for for people who talk about foreign policy international relations you read report like that and you realize at some point we're going to wake up completely to this and this is going to be like the only thing that people do you know like the the issue that governments work on together the issue that the government has to be structured to deal with is going to be climate change for a period of decades in and you would hope that the combination extreme weather events that we've already had and the reports that have come out like this will make that moment now because what needs to happen at glasgow is there needs to be a transformation of the ambition that governments have in terms of the targets are setting transactions that they're taking so that they can literally transform the entire global economy into something that can leave the earth habitable. You know and that's gonna take government's spending money and having much stricter regulations that's gonna require people who invest money to only invest in clean energy. That's going to require all of us. Different choices about the types of places that we live in the types of energy that we use it. It's a whole of society effort that needs to start like yesterday Gloss cow will be an opportunity. But i'm not that optimistic that that we can get there. I think it does point to how important is for the second infrastructure. Bill the reconciliation bill to go through so that the us momentum we go there and we can say hey. We dispense x. Amount of money near transforming our energy grid So that we can meet you. Know the the goal of of being carbon-neutral by twenty fifty But we'll see we'll see if we can get done that that time you're also seeing some like certain near-term political fallout writing. These major fires in greece. In you know some people are blaming. Immigrants others are blaming turkey. Summer blaming corporate interests so like the spill over effect Into politics especially like right wing. Politics will be devastating. I'm gonna road test a slightly lighter message that people can use for the republican friends so according to some reports i read ben. Bad weather is forecasted to reduce france's wine production by thirty percent. this year. That weather in italy is going to reduce their output by ten percent. Winemakers and california are struggling to grow grapes and these heat waves. So here's a message for your drunk fox news watching relatives deal climate change or you cannot slug chardonnay and yell at me about certificate yet this thanksgiving you think that will work. I hope so. Except like i was thinking about this time. He's like it's so clear what's happening. It's so clear that would suffering extreme weather events because of this but if people won't even get vaccinated like to protect themselves why would they support national policies. That do i mean but again the we can do this. You know i mean we we like it's it's a problem with the solution in terms of policy can be pursued. Maybe i mean maybe that message can work. I mean i also think like again to remember that like it's going to require countries to say things like okay. We're going to trade with brazil. If burning down the amazon mike. It's going to take that kind of collective effort of like young kit voting off the island people that they refused to deal with this. Unfortunately the united states is often been the country refuses deal that whenever we've had a republican president but maybe the chardonnay can be a wakeup call. I don't know you know. I've tried something here. Burning to death on the lips though that that's what we're dealing with You mentioned cove it so some good news air. The pentagon announced that members of the us military will be required to get a cove in nineteen vaccines starting in mid september. That timeline gives the fda the chance to complete its inexplicably long process and give final approval to the pfizer vaccine. So the secretary defense. Lloyd austin frame. The issue is impacting military readiness saying quote to defend this nation. We need a healthy ready. Force seems obvious. President biden backs plan so the pentagon says more than one million troops are fully vaccinated Another two hundred and thirty seven thousand more have had one shot. The navy is doing the best i. In terms of the service branches they have the highest percentage of active and reserve sailors vaccinated with seventy four percent. Having gotten one shot. The army is bringing up the rear with closer to fifty percent vaccinated. Servicemembers are already required to get lots of other vaccines. The exact list depends on your location. So this seems like a good step And a piece of the puzzle that will get us closer to having the federal workforce in country vaccinated. But like here's my question..
"orban" Discussed on Pod Save the World
"Okay i'm very glad to be joined by zaba on year who is an budapest-based investigative journalist with direct thirty six. You should definitely check out his work there. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. So you and i spoke for my book. Which which is podcast. Audience has heard plenty about about victoria. Bond and some of the connections between or bond and other authoritarian movements In russia in china in the us And unfortunately there's been a lot more evidence for that That thesis in recent weeks. Some of which involves you personally. So i wanna work through each of those. We'll start with the thing that's been in the news here which is tucker carlson. Who's emerged gonna the most prominent right wing commentator in america making this kind of week long pilgrimage to budapest. What was the reaction to tucker carlson's visit in budapest. How did someone like you and and people there Take this this interest. From from tucker. Carlson victoria bond. Yeah i mean dr. Carson is absolutely unknown to hungarian audience. Obviously so his was. It was not about not about hungary or hungary hungering people. It was about the us audience or an international audience. It was a pr bure stunt. It was pretty obvious. I mean you can compare his visit to. I don't know jalen performing at the birthday party of too many stan's dictator or kanye west singing at at the wedding party of of the kazakh president's grandson. And stuff like that so meaning that. This is a vanity project for two orban to try to bring to hungary these so-called so-called western intellectuals right-wing thinkers as they label them because frankly that your government is increasingly alienated with trump. Gone with benjamin. Netanyahu gone with bolsonaro in brazil struggling with all these ideological allies Seem to be Their fortunes seemed to be fading. So it's pretty important for Still show that there's international support behind him that this populist right-wing veve that has been writing is still existing steve bannon famously labelled or bias trump before trump. Now it seems that now that trump has gone and all these other people are on the verge of of losing power Suddenly the whole world is just a shrinking for and so bringing parson is is just a show force. I believe you. And i talked about right. His effort to beat the vanguard The forefront of of this kind of right wing nationalist authoritarian movement Particularly in the west. You know what he calls illiberal democracy and so clearly you can see why having tucker carlson their advances that sense of who he is and as you say might might try to suggest hunger and people that they're still momentum for it even after you know the. Us election went the way it did. But you know orban's up for reelection next year Do you think this helped. Does this help him with with hunger and boaters to be seen. Is this kind of global figure of the far right or is it. Something that appeals to his vanity. I think it's It it it i mean carson and bringing him to hungary the bills to republicans in the us It's not about the domestic audience. It's not about winning votes. in hungary. it's about trying to dismantle this this bipartisanship in in in the us which is really a risk to orban. Meaning china so that the whole china policy That's that's been pursued. Both by the trump administration and by biden administration is a real risk to to orban who's been establishing hungary as which had a chinese influence in the region and His his main foreign policy goal in the us is to try to dismantle. Bipartisan efforts Critical of the hungarian government and the only way to do that is to win over some republicans most see on the fringes of the republican party. Like the rohrabacher or or Bogelsong from arizona. These are some figures that Hungering government has been trying to court in recent years. So it's it's it's about mitigating. The risks of what consequences will bring to victoria. Government if he pursues this pro chinese pro-russian trajectory that his being you mentioned china. You know it was interesting to notice that In the official transcript of the interview released with victoria oregon by the pharmacy. Orban's office they. They censored out some of tucker carlson's criticism of the chinese communist party in question victoria bond. When you and i spoke for my book you talk to me about some investigative work you've done and just kind of your understanding of how we're about headed invited china in terms of being part of the belt road initiative civic vacant get kind of a made in the eu stamp on things Including my way The chinese tech giant. You've also subsequently done some great reporting on this university That orban's invited the chinese to set up a in budapest notable. He kicked out. The george soros funded university and is invited in this chinese communist party. Funded university can you just explain to our listeners. Who probably aren't familiar with this. That the nature of orban's relationship with the chinese communist party in particular this this university that he has plans for sure. I mean you know. Hungary has become the most vocally pro chinese country in the european union hungary's not the most important trade partner of china in the eu of course but hungary hungering government has been Basically vetoing any kind of a statement that brussels tried to put out criticizing human rights abuses like the genocide war cracking down on hong kong. It was always before by government. Who tried to to to basically kill these initiatives hungary is is where while very has its largest manufacturing base outside of china. The manufacturing five g. Technology here which are then exporting to. I don't know fifty countries or so a two out of three hungary. Mobile carriers have been contracting chinese vendors to roll out the five g. networks in the country. And what you just mentioned is that There's a chinese university based in shanghai called university which will establish his first overseas campus. In in europe in hungary paid by hungarian taxpayers. And it's bide lee seen as a as a political or or even more on intelligence Influence operation of china which is seen as a real threat to the whole.
"orban" Discussed on Pod Save the World
"Who's washing dirty money through this. Never mind that's not tax and so it starts to migrate to the kind of offshore haven type places and and and yeah like i think that the the point for the crypto people before they yell at us like make your case. There's some good arguments about the potential for crypto but this has not been thought through in a way that deals with the reality of the world. Is you know. And and Yeah i saw that tweet. And i saw you kind of take that on. 'cause i get jack. Dorsey is usually slightly more thoughtful. Guy than than some of these other tech guys. But y- years this tendency to kind of hype. Whatever the next ideas without leveling with the downside risks and there's always downside risk and here's the downside risks for clear like this can be manipulated by criminals commute to launder money. Like just you have to deal with that right. Make your case like there's no circumstance in which going to unite a deeply divided country. It's bitcoin man. It's just it's just. I mean can unite or shut up. It's like crypto investors. You like yeah. But then jack dorsey and his summer house he'll point then because you're gonna have these guys who you know running up the price and then crashing it so they can make money like i don't know i feel like that's just eating. Just rain it. Just chill with the hyperbole. That's another venue for capitalism. That's what it is. I mean you just don't Okay we are going to take a quick break. We come back. We will hear ben's interview about hungary and viktor orban's in tucker carlson and the awful Uniting of these right wing schmucks globally so stick around for that. The world is.
"orban" Discussed on Pod Save the World
"Help with his effort. But you know government cdot first so you know this study is especially valuable because it draws this link between extreme weather events and climate change that is important is a lot of people. Don't do that. They don't think climate change impact them personally. But i think here's the big question the next. Un climate change conference is coming up in november. Do you think this report will do enough to get the world to come together and to act like enacted the scale. That's necessary because you know we've seen That not necessarily happen in some of the recent summits i mean. I had a lot of thoughts and feelings in reading the summaries of this report the first is. I don't think you can emphasize enough. How selfish reckless shortsighted and and really cruel. The climate denial ism in governments like our own has been over the years. I mean like what is it gonna look like to future generations at like donald trump stood up in like pull out of the paris agreement and said he cared about pittsburgh and not perez and ended it that our politics. I mean to do a little media chris. I'm here covers that as if it's like. Oh that's a valid political argument. You know like this evidence has been clear for decades and we've literally had people obstructing climate action not just refusing to join it but like even the infrastructure bill the pass a day. They had to pass a bill. That could get bipartisan support. The basically stripped out most of the important climate provisions because god forbid any even moderate. Republican would have to vote for that. That is gonna look insane I mean i don't like i. It's hard to get your mind negligence. Think the second point then that leads to his alike you know for for people who talk about foreign policy international relations you read report like that and you realize at some point we're going to wake up completely to this and this is going to be like the only thing that people do you know like the the issue that governments work on together the issue that the government has to be structured to deal with is going to be climate change for a period of decades in and you would hope that the combination extreme weather events that we've already had and the reports that have come out like this will make that moment now because what needs to happen at glasgow is there needs to be a transformation of the ambition that governments have in terms of the targets are setting transactions that they're taking so that they can literally transform the entire global economy into something that can leave the earth habitable. You know and that's gonna take government's spending money and having much stricter regulations that's gonna require people who invest money to only invest in clean energy. That's going to require all of us. Different choices about the types of places that we live in the types of energy that we use it. It's a whole of society effort that needs to start like yesterday Glasgow will be an opportunity. But i'm not that optimistic that that we can get there. I think it does point to how important is for the second infrastructure. Bill the reconciliation bill to go through so that the us momentum we go there and we can say hey. We dispense x. Amount of money near transforming our energy grid so that we can meet you. Know the the goal of of being carbon-neutral by twenty fifty But we'll see we'll see if we can get done that that time you're also seeing some like certain near-term political fallout writing. These major fires in greece. In you know some people are blaming. Immigrants others are blaming turkey. Summer blaming corporate interests so like the spill over effect Into politics especially like right wing. Politics will be devastating. I'm gonna road test a slightly lighter message that people can use for the republican friends so according to some reports i read ben. Bad weather is.
"orban" Discussed on Pod Save the World
"Yep okay that was a A very grim topics. Let's talk about something very stupid Which is mike pompeo. So failed former secretary of state. Mike pompeo is in the news Because of a missing bottle of whiskey. And i don't know if you saw this twenty nineteen The government japan gave pompeo a bottle of whisky. Worth fifty eight hundred dollars. Can't imagine paying that much for whiskey but the gift itself isn't that weird foreign governments often given the president Or give senior members of the president's staff these lavish gifts that basically immediately get recorded taken away by the state department and the recipient can either turn it over the national archives forever or buy it back with their own personal cash but this special bottle booze went missing and mike pompeo was asked about this by fox news last week in a moment of accidental journalism by the fox news team stuttered and stammered and said it never got to him. But if it had been diet coke would've drank. It was kind of the joke attempted. What's your take ben. Where's the bottle. Do you believe mike that he didn't just slug this thing down on the plane ride home so i mean first of all like just so people understand how this works like. I never got time. We went our first trip to saudi arabia in two thousand nine and arrive at my like little guest house that i was staying at each of the staff assigned to one and there was a suitcase full of jewels like villas encase opened into had like it had like you know like a necklace in a watch or i don't know what was in it and i thought that they were trying to bribe me because i was working the cairo guys. What the so go. My god i it. I just got this. But then pharaoh is staying in the same compound is mean. He got the exact same gift and then turn out. Everybody got a suitcase full drools and that's when the state department explain us. Oh no don't worry about it. We just take it you know. We'll let you know if you want to buy this. And i think it was valued at tens of thousands of dollars something. Nobody ever does that right. They gave you the chance to stash it in your bag Before telling you that. They knew that the jokes were in there. Yeah well bit like in. This happened again and again. Obama like de gifts. These gifts are given protocol office protocol office. So it's very weird about this right. Is it like normally. There wouldn't even be a question like the bottle of whisky would go to the state department protocol people just take it back and put it in whatever warehouse they put it in or i think maybe they sell some stuff for charity or something. So it's kind of odd peculiar that of all the gifts that might compare received and look like he gets them in every country. You go to you get some dumb gifts that the multi thousand dollar bottle of whiskies workers missing knowing pompeo. He's probably not the kinda guy that like had a good time with this whiskey. He probably re- gifted it to like some some coke brothers type donor you know. Look at the navy reserve time at the madison dinners. You know thought about that. I bet he got drunk and yelled at his staff which is what he does. I love this guy like throwing the state department of the boss because he kind of made another decided thing. About how like you know anybody. Fuck this up. Who's going to state department. What a great boss. Mike pompeo is like how'd you like to work at a guy and he's throwing you under the bus. Every single thing that happens including the fact that he he lost several thousand dollar bottle of whisky. Yet you drank it you schlub. You drank it or you re gifted man come on. Yeah you're the worst Okay some news out of sudan so our friend. usa id administer. The power took a visit to sudan. Khartoum she gave a major speech. She announce additional humanitarian assistance and she also visited refugee camp that hosts ethiopians who have been driven out of ethiopia because of the civil war there the conflict in tigray. Then some interesting these on top of that ben. Sudan's transitional government voted unanimously to join the international criminal court or icy see. I'm sure this was a pretty remarkable trip for samantha. Who is you know..
"orban" Discussed on Pod Save the World
"No off years will get you to tons of volunteer opportunities There's no such thing as all. These elections are important whether they're state local federal. All of them so get involved on the show today. We've got a lot of good stuff. We're going to cover some You know all the news is bad. So we're gonna talk through all of it We'll talk about mike. Pompeo in the missing whiskey sudan ethiopia. some big climate change news. Ben i loved your interview last week. with the the climate activists she was very inspiring cova update the olympics are over which sad get some final updates And then some space based idiocy. That i wanted to flag for you guys and then you are doing our interview today. talking about Some -tarian may be tucker carlson. Is that the that what i'm hearing. Yeah well talking to sabotage. Who's a journalist. Who's been right in the middle of a couple stories you've been covering One is You know he was all over the authoritarian bromance fascist romance between tucker carlson and and his his new best friend. Viktor orban He's also been all over the story of a victorian opening the door to the chinese communist party to build a massive university In hungry if you saw tommy that in the official transcript released by orban of his interview with tucker they they censored out. Yes tucker's criticism of of china which goes on who you know who tucker wrapping his arms around there but also sabotage was Spied on by the nso Outfit store we covered a few weeks ago. He was one of the two hundred journalists. Who surveilled baracoa so. Lots of talk about well. We're gonna count those. I intercept calms towards our download numbers for the episode. Because i'm sure they'll be listening in his life so let's certain aghanistan Because we talked about it last week. The things that actually gotten considerably worst since that time over the last few days. Seven provincial capital cities have been overrun by the taliban that includes cities in provinces in northern afghanistan. That have historically been anti-taliban where local warlords and militia groups managed to hold territory even when taliban-controlled kabul back in the late ninety s The afghan special forces are fighting heroically. They're doing all the heavy lifting but they are reportedly exhausted and in some cases literally out of food the regular army units are often retreating or disbanding or other not really fighting. The the fighting is moving. Further and further into urban areas. Civilian casualties are increasing. The taliban is also conducting a series of assassination campaigns against government and activists and civil society including an attack on the acting. Defense minister's home in a heavily-fortified neighborhood of kabul. That killed eight people not the defense minister. Luckily the us is still conducting air strikes on taliban targets but those flights are now beat outside of the country because us handed over bog remained base to the afghans. And i suspect that you know the air airstrikes general. They are less useful If we're talking about urban combat you can't you know bomb. Urban targets so many stories are as devastating. People who worked with the us in in the nato are getting killed. Innocent civilians are getting killed. Thousands of afghans are getting displaced or forced to live under taliban control last week. We talked about some criticism of biden for withdrawing quickly not doing enough i to get military interpreters and others who worked with. Us out of the country. I think that's a separate issue. It's valid one but what we're seeing. Today is a different story. I think these taliban military advances suggests that there's a far bigger problem that the us has been ghanistan for twenty years. We spent trillions of dollars. More than twenty seven hundred service members have been killed over one hundred thousand. Afghans have been killed. But here's my question for you. i mean. Do you see results happening with. The taliban are taking over these. These capitals Doesn't tell us that like this core mission of training and equipping. The afghan military has just fundamentally failed. Yeah i think it does. I mean it really. I was thinking about. What angle discuss your tommy Because as you said the news is the news and it's pretty clear that the taliban steadily-advancing even in places like you know the city of kunduz like not exactly their strongholds and to me people can make an indictment of biden's decision to leave and we can talk about that we have talked about that And and the speed with which he left but as you disillusioned to it's commandement of the entire theory of the case of this war effort Not the destruction of al qaeda. I mean that was targeted michigan. Where you go in and you try to take out Certain terrorist safe havens ozzy that bled into pakistan but the model of training and financing this kind of massive afghan security force as as the entity that you could hand this over to I think that needs come. Under a lot of scrutiny. Because i think to extent you look at who's actually doing. The bulk of the frontline fighting at see special forces as you say and there was kind of almost the size was the goal of the afghan national security forces right and in order for them to sustain just their basic operations in their logistics. They were hugely dependent. Not just on the us military but also on private security contractors who were performing some the basic functions for them and now that those private security contractors are also leaving. It's hard for the afghan nash security forces to to function to the idea of training kind of this massive military that you finance that has biden himself said in a recent press conference has more numbers more hardware than the taliban. But they're not like a cohesive tight fighting force you know clearly that didn't work iraq as we saw when mosul was overrun by isis And it hasn't worked you're either and so yeah. I think there's a you know there's gonna be a lot of efforts. Put into looking back. But i think one of the basic point here is that our capacity to to shape events in these distant countries that we don't understand that well that you know the. Us public doesn't have an appetite for staying for several decades that we sometimes sink a we can construct military and this size. It can get this amount of work done..
"orban" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts
"You want to respond to that. Well the religious right was already behind the anti democracy. Even before tucker. Carlson went to hungary. it was on the religious right that you really saw a lot of the earlier or bond fervor and a lot of it did have to do with his move to ban abortion or same sex marriage or otherwise curtail. Lgbtq writes in hungary. They liked that they also liked his appeals too not just ethnic nationalism but christian nationalism which is what they have been promoting here in the united states. As jack said they've been promoting this idea that the founders intended america to be a christian nation and that america in more recent decades has been under attack by liberals who wanna take away that christian heritage by depriving christians of their freedom to Be against lgbtq rights for example or have tried to take away christians freedom by Upholding separation of church and state. So this has been the main driving ideology of the christian right for the past several decades and now they see somebody like victor or bonn who doesn't have a lot of the guard rails that we have here in terms of you know how how easily are not easily. We can change our constitution or checks and balances in separation of powers and without those things he was able to. Just go ahead and impose those sorts of policy or legislative ideas in hungary. They really admired that. And i think they kind of wish they could do it here. So let's can be talk for a second more about exactly. How or a did that. In hungary because i think this these sort of draw the two threads that you and jack are discussing here together so let me play. Get a moment from our show. Back in june with cam shep lee professor of international affairs at princeton university who has lived in hungary worked in hungary knows hungary extremely well. She's also a international expert on democracy as well and she told us back in june about the parallels parallels that she's seen between orban's actions when he lost power early in the two thousands prior to his two thousand ten victory but his time then and the republican party. Now and one of those payroll is she saw was a religion. He engaged in a kind of mass mobilization of civil society and he did it a lot. Through the hungarian churches. he mobilized their members He got them all on board. They already had a pre existing structure. He was mobilising the kind of religious hungarian middle-class and through doing that he developed a very reliable base so sarah. Do you wanna talk about that a little more. What's not clear to me though is that was that sort of original or bonn or were there. Connections between american churches or american religious thinkers and hungary a before that. Well i think that it would have been difficult for him to come into contact with american republicans right activists or or political strategists and be unaware of how the republican party tied its fortunes to the religious right starting in the late nineteen seventies and how they have used that to mobilize voters to mobilize an army of citizen lobbyists for legislation that they want to basically have a get out the vote operation that they can activate with a few clicks on their computers That could not have been lost on him regardless of what his actual relationships were at the time With american religious leaders. What i do know too is in my coverage of religious right Events and media In the late twenty tens in during the run up to the twenty sixteen election and after trump became president There was a great deal of affection and admiration for what or had done And a dismissal of the concerns of pro democracy critics of oregon as basically focusing too much on just quote unquote procedural things As opposed to the great things in their view that or bond was doing to protect heritage tradition family culture. That was the kind of That was the kind of framing From the vantage point of the american religious right. So so jack respond to this. Because i was looking at some of the the writings of rod dreher who writes frequently in the american conservative. And he's a best selling religious thinker as well in the united states author of the benedict option for example. He's actually been in hungary. I believe since april of this year living there for for several months and just earlier this month. He wrote about what he met. Tucker carlson in budapest shared some meals with him as well and in the american conservative. Dreyer writes this. He writes quote. It's quite sensible. Tucker carlson and other conservatives want to figure out what the leader of the small relatively poor central european country has done to hold off those like george soros and the woke leadership of the european union to defend his country and it sovereignty with our own conservative establishment either neutered or sidelined by pointless lib owning enthusiasms thinkers of the american right. Who actually care about saving our civilization off to becoming to hungary and in poland the ads to study these places to make common cause with these people they could use our solidarity and we could certainly use. There's what do you make of that jack. Well that's out in and out embracing of authoritarians and saying to believers the things you want. You can get through a authoritarianism. You can't get it through democracy The most prophetic lines in the last decade were written a few years ago by david from who a conservative. Who said you know. If conservatives have to choose between conservatism democracy and not likely to choose democracy what we're seeing and what they have seen serve is that they can't get what they want that way. The big money can't get what it wants that way and big religion. The can't get what they want. We're in a moment here. Where the sort of bizarre Flirtations of american right wing elites are are almost ready to inflame and to catch fire with amass a religious base through through these Dominion est churches and and this this ideology of we need before the second coming. We need to get things in order here. And we can't be held up by procedural punk guilio about democracy. No no no. Let's let's do it now. I think it's a dangerous moment. And dreyer is all of the apostle isn't it. He's saying look at the here. We are look at the city on the hill here. It's budapest Well i mean he goes on to say this. It's actually really remarkable article where he says quote the unhappy truth. Is that liberalism as we americans have known it is probably dead. He says our future is almost certainly going to be left. Illiberal or right illiberal. It's not the future i would prefer. But we're not being given a choice here. But he really focuses on what he sees as left-wing ill liberalism because he says this job which is the only power capable of standing up to woke capitalists as well as those illiberal leftist in academia media sports cultural institutions and other places the state..
Dr. Francis Fukuyama on How Technology Is Shaping American Democracy
"Well. I thought we would begin. I'd love for it to to cover a number of topics as your. Your field of expertise is so expensive to cover both geopolitics as well as technology for some who knew me know your earlier works. They may not be quite as familiar to the extent to which you've dealt with so much further into technology which which as the conversation goes on. I'm sure he's going to make sense to those people listening and watching inasmuch as the those of becomes so enmeshed and would love to talk a bit about your own diagnosis as well as some of your own Recommendations for improvements in all of the above. But i wanted to begin Dr fukuyama with the rise of populism. This is certainly a trend that has been accelerating and we see everything from the election of donald trump in two thousand sixteen brexit the uk a number of countries that have either elected or Have one thinks of marine le pen in france candidates who arising within various countries. Who can be described as populist. Talk a bit about your own diagnosis. If you would as to some of the factors at play that have led to this sure. So i think we need to begin with the definition of populism They're actually different varieties. There's a left wing version. Which would be. Google says on a right wing version. Which would be donald trump They have some things in common. So populous argue that The world is actually being run by a ball leads. That are self interested. That are manipulating a politics for their own. Self interested purposes and cutting ordinary people out of that loop the difference. I think between the right and left wing versions. Is that the left wing. Populace wanna redistribute income and wealth. You know massively. To from rich to poor of the right wingers intent on issues like national identity where they oftentimes Associate national identity with a particular ethnic group so for example. Viktor orban and hungry us as that. Hungarian national identity is based on hungarian ethnishity. Which isn't so great. If you're not an ethnic hungarian living in budapest or somewhere else in the country
Hungary’s Ruling Party Breaks With Conservative E.U. Allies
"Relationship with the european union is continuing to sour. The country's prime minister has drawn his party fitness from the eu's alliance of centre-right lawmakers the european people's party a change in the rules to allow the european parliament to expel members more easily and in addition to this hungry is forging ahead with its own coronavirus vaccination program using russia's sputnik v product yet to be given the green light by the e. Tell us more. I'm joined now by buyer. Who's a reporter at politico. Good morning lily. Morning thanks for having me a pleasure to tell us what has happened with fidesz viktor. Victorian suggestion is is that. they have jumped before they were pushed. That's right that's so or band. Sent a letter formally withdrawing his ruling fetus party from the european people's party which job as you said. Is this big the biggest group in the european parliament. It's it's a centre-right grouping but it's actually. I'm quite diverse internally. It has some members that lena bit more liberal at how members which are quite conservative and even though officials eat this move came after change to the groups Internal rules really. It's a culmination of years. And years of of debate and internal tension and ultimately i think some of the group's biggest members and in particular the german at christian democratic union That that's the party of chancellor. Angela merkel at perhaps have started feeling that does is more of a liability ford them and so or bond decided you to quit and look elsewhere and just explain to us how we have got to this point where fidesz is in such a dire situation with the european parliament and that it that oh viktor. Orban has decided to leave. I mean i'm writing thinking that That european parliament officials had already suspended fitness from The the center right group already and this is just a second step well. He's his aides a bit complicated. But basically has has party was suspended from the broader european people's party A few years back but they were allowed to stay in the european people's party group in the european parliament. And what happened this week. Is that the twelve members of the european parliament. Left this centre-right grouping within the parliament and are now sitting in parliament but simply as independent members without formal political affiliation and the big question now is what will come next so whoa joined one of the more conservative right-leaning groups one option is the european conservatives and reformists group where the polish a ruling lon justice party is a member Another option is the identity and democracy group where alternative for germany and marine le. Pen's a party are are our members. And then there's the third option of china to create something new which is tough but but possible So what what we saw. Yesterday is victoria on Wrote a small essay where he said that he wants to build What what he termed a In new democratic rights for citizens who don't want migrants don't fund multiculturalism and in his words have not descended into quotes. Lgbtq lunacy so he is putting out his his his platform he's making his views very very public and clear and saying that he's looking for some kind of New right-wing alliance. We just don't know exactly what form it will take
How the Biden administration will affect the EU
"With the biden administration taking office in just under a month. You leaders a counting the days until they feel like they can have a new start with an american team. that's more committed to transatlantic relations this week. The us foreign policy chief. Joseph barrell reveal the agenda he hopes to pursue well joining me on the line from brussels. Is our correspondent. Teri schultz terry. It's not an exaggeration to say most e you leaders a hugely relief with the biden win and believe things are going to be different now. Where does the e u. side wants to start well and they've actually released this document now laying out where they believe. The most progress can be made in the fastest and most efficient way. And that's what you high rep josette burrell released yesterday. And they've got four areas where they want to start the europeans. They want to start with corona virus. Response making that again. A global effort with president trump having pulled out of the world health organization saying constantly america first america first when it comes to a vaccine. That's something that does not sit well with the europeans who are committed to making vaccines affordable and available to the entire world on climate. They are very much looking forward to president-elect biden making good on his campaign promise to rejoin the paris climate accord. That's something that suffers without. Us leadership and i think president-elect biden is is committed to doing that the third one is a little a little tougher trade and technology that you use third priority and that's one where you're not going to automatically see any. Us president stop protecting or trying to protect american tech giant's against for example e regulators who want to recoup taxes from from the multinationals. That's going to be somewhere where we we may not see as quick progress but on trade looking at the world trade organization where president trump is just continually attacked and and made it impossible for the wto to get reforms that the europeans also support. I expect that that will be one of the areas that there will be some quick progress and unwed burrell calls global action and he says this is working toward a safer more prosperous and more democratic world and they're hoping that president-elect biden will put more emphasis on human rights on rule of and on basic democratic values that the eu and the us due to a large extent share but is it realistic for the e. You just think that the biden administration shares these views simply going to sign onto this plan. Or i think europeans may be disappointed by the fact that foreign policy is probably not going to be the first thing on on president-elect biden's list he's got to deal with the corona virus that's just raging in the in the us and and the divisiveness that this campaign and actually the trump presidency has brought about in america and he's got to work on that before he can justify to anyone that he's going to be working on with with european leaders but he very much wants to do that. All of his statements during the campaign to to europeans. Were basically i understand. This is not the way the. Us you relationships should work and he will. He does share a lot of these views. He certainly will not be giving comfort to leaders. Like hungary's viktor orban or the polish government. That is rolling back the rights of women. He will have. He will have a few things to say about that. Which president trump left unsaid or probably didn't even believe
Hungarian lawmaker resigns after caught fleeing a 'sex party' by climbing down a drainpipe
"Know. The career of a close ally of the hungarian prime minister viktor orban who was also an emmy p. has ended in a welter of scandal and suspicion as his actions threaten the public valleys of the right wing fidesz party lily by is a reporter at politico and she's here with more lily. It's with all the key elements. We have sex politics lawbreaking drugs and intrigue sitting comfortably. Tell us what happened It's quite an extraordinary story So basically over the weekend. A member of the european parliament. You'll jeff siad of the blue announced that he is resigning He is a member of hungary's ruling fetus party but It's important to understand that he's not just an ordinary member. he's one of the co founders of the party. He was there with prime minister. Viktor orban and others in nineteen eighty-eight when they started this political journey back then as young liberals he has been the prime minister's inner circle ever since and has played a key role in hungary and politics including the lead author of one of the hungarian government's main political projects. The two thousand eleven constitution. So he's really a an important figure especially in the intellectual circles of the ruling party so when he resigned that sparked a lot of questions. Initially people were wondering are there any divisions within the ruling party. What's going on. And then on tuesday details started leaking. I two local belgian press that that a member of the european parliament had attended a party on friday night in brussels. That was by police. Now it's important to Stand for those of our listeners. Who who are not familiar with bowel gyms rules that we have pretty strict covert related restrictions here about gatherings so belgian. Trust reported that there were about Twenty five naked men this particular party which at police had raided for violating the health related restrictions. And what prosecutors later said is that a passer-by had seen someone sleeping along the gutter This person It turns out Mr sire the a member of the european parliament was apprehended and then police found narcotics in his backpack after the leaks. Uche the politician. He admitted to having been present at the party but denied that the narcotics were his and this created a huge storm and hungarian politics given closely associated. He has personally with the prime minister. An element of his behavior do you think was most offensive to the party. I mean could he got away with it if it had. Just been about breaking lockdown rules. Well it's it's hard to tell but one thing to to note is that Ever since the late nineteen eighties when fetus was a young idealistic liberal political party on the were informal conversations within the party about mr sires Sexual orientation this is something. He has never discussed in public. And of course it's it's up to him to to to discuss But but within the party party members were chatting about this and at the time Wait what people say now is that they simply did not care They saw that. It's his private matter of what he does in his private life. And it's it didn't impact his initial political career. He was The group leader of the fidesz faction in the european in the are in the hungarian parliament. Initially in one thousand nine hundred ninety so he was quite an important figure within that party and so you know feed us because of its strategic trajectory. It's important to note you know it used to be a liberal party. It evolved over the years. It moved further and further to the right at today. It's a party that has been criticized for for what Lgbt activists call Anti gay policies but initially it did not have that kind of ideology back in the in the eighties and nineties. But i mean as you say. He had significant input into the very conservative constitution which holds family values it doesn't recognize. Lgbt rights he's married to a female judge judge as you say they've been whispers about his own sexuality so i wonder how this has affected the party. How it's affected feeders. In terms of just sheer hypocrisy. That's right so. I think that the opposition in hungary has really seized upon this issue Some have talks about What what one. Opposition politician called the moral bankruptcy Of the party. And i think that this will be an issue in the twenty. Twenty two election campaigner there will be elections then and it's already looking like a tough race even though Hunger in minister viktor. Orban is in quite powerful position and critics say an unfairly powerful position because of the covid crisis and because of economic problems in hungary like most other countries experiencing It's already said to be a tough campaign and having this kind of Scandal so close to to the real start of of of the race. Is i think putting more pressure on the party. And that's why. I think on wednesday or bounded something quite untested hinted for him He he gave a statement saying that. What cya did was unacceptable and indefensible and he said that This kind of behavior has no place in the values of the political family. And this was quite extraordinary. In hungarian context because i was with such a close friend and ally for over three decades And it's very very rare Side did quit the party. Officially on wednesday as well It's very rare for someone of that stature to to be publicly criticized by by the party to actually quit just quickly before we go. We know that he was a key figure. In brussels. In terms of of hungarian paulo within the eu. And i wonder if this will have an impact on the covert relief budget. Talks where hungary's vetoing the because the eu's insisting that the country conforms to various elements of the law so prime minister or bond was are speaking on hunger and state radio just about an hour ago and he repeated that hungary is came to its original hard line position on the eu budget and rule of law is a big conflict about that because a lot of eu countries in the european parliament one to length distribution of funding to respect for the rule of law There has been a lot of speculation about whether this is going to weaken or bounce position. a bit hard to tell right now We will see. I'm next week when
Hungarian Politician Resigns After Brussels Party Is Raided by Police
"An anti-gay hungarian politician has resigned after being caught by police. Fleeing a twenty five man orgy through window. The man joe's Sager quit as a member of the european parliament on sunday instead. It was a private party. He and twenty four other naked men were at the gathering included diplomats and drugs. He tried to sneak the ra- window and was caught by police climbing across the gutter to get out of the place one called a disturbance. Now what was the disturbance. Here's the punchline. Here's the punchline. What was the disturbance to people president. What time through. The kuroda virus lockdown they should have gone to new orleans. Y'all i really got nothing. I'm i just looked i. I read the stories. I find the news. I think you know what this is. A story were talking about the anti-gay conservative to no politician was at the gathering of twenty four. Other naked men. he he's. He is a ally of the hungarian. The right wing. Hungarian prime minister viktor. Orban his fidesz party. He's resigned. His position in brussels resigned his position after he was caught leaving The the gathering friday. He admitted to breaching belgians belgium. Strict lockdown rules to attend the par party. The police found twenty five naked men at the gathering including seizure in some diplomats. The belgian newspaper dernier horror or horror reported the newspaper quoted. Well no. I'm not gonna read that live for what the local police said. They found but Yes so he was hanging out in belgium and he was with twenty four other naked dudes and decided to escape through a window. And it's not that the police were there to break up the gathering of of twenty five men hanging out doing drugs and other things. It's that someone complained that there were more than ten people at the party.
Hungarian Politician Resigns After Brussels Party Raided by Police
"I apologize to my family, My colleagues. My constituents, please evaluate my slip up in the light of 30. Years of persistent and dedicated work stumbles personal. Please do not extend it to my country or my political community. That's an apology from the Hungarian politician use if, say, Air your founding member of the ruling finished party it up until two days ago, vice chairman of the European People's Party in the European Parliament It's always known until yesterday about his sudden resignation in Brussels on Sunday. That's until Belgian media published details of his arrest at a party. The Belgian police raided for breaking coronavirus rules. They say he was detained after trying to run away from what is being described as an orgy attended by two dozen naked men. And the position is known for having drafted the Hungarian Constitution, which campaigners say is hostile to gay rights for houses or going down in Budapest. On the line from Hungarian capital is the freelance journalist Justin Spike. What are the headlines this morning? Then? This morning, Justin Good morning. Thanks for having me s O. The headlines in Hungarian state media and pro government media are pretty quiet about the story. They haven't really touched on it. Despite the fact that it's been quite explosive on the other side of the media, they really avoided the more lurid details of the story. If they've covered it all Hungarian State news just is the story was breaking yesterday, their main headline. Was the Hungarians had never in history been so satisfied with the prime minister as they are with Viktor Orban.
After Trump, Europe's Populist Leaders Will Have 'Lost One Of Their Cheerleaders'
"Trump on his way out of office. Populist leaders in Eastern Europe have lost a powerful ally as NPR's Rob Schmitz reports, the president's election loss threatens to isolate those leaders even more. On the day after the U. S election, millions of votes in key swing states were still being counted. And there wasn't a clear winner yet. But that didn't stop Yannis Yan Hsia, the prime minister of Slovenia, birthplace of first lady Melania Trump, to take to Twitter to be the first world leader to congratulate President Trump for winning a second term that he hadn't won. After the election was called for Biden. Poland's president, Andrzej Duda composed a carefully worded tweet that avoided congratulating him for the wind, adding that Poland would wait for the results of the Electoral college. Eastern Europe's populist strongman leaders are having a hard time accepting Trump has lost. I'm not so sure it's a big loss for the populations. I think it's a big loss for the individual leaders. Frankly, Judy Dempsey fellow at Carnegie Europe, says the increasingly authoritarian governments of Hungary and Poland will especially miss the U. S president, who seemed to share their world view. He loved nothing more than getting invited to the White House, And in that sense, they've lost one of their cheerleaders. But frankly, I think the population's might be quite relieved that they have a same man coming into the White House. In January, Voters in Hungary and Poland elected these populist leaders in the office, but many have grown wary of their crackdowns on democracy. So has the European Union. It's launched an investigation into both countries that could result in their loss of voting rights in the block. The post government bet on the wrong horse. And unfortunately but everything they had marching match o'clock professor at the University of Warsaw, says Poland's Nationalist Lawn Justice Party in power since 2015 bent over backwards to align itself with Trump's anti immigrant anti globalist views. Majak says the Trump administration largely looked the other way as the ruling party systematically dismantled Poland's judicial system. And crack down on its free press. Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands of Poles spurred by leaders who came to tighten restrictions on abortion. Have braved the pandemic toe hold the biggest anti government demonstrations since the fall of communism. Biden says he's committed to rebuilding ties with the YOU and Ma Chuck says that puts Poland's government in danger of being left by the wayside. They no longer have a friend in the president of the United States, and it will no longer be possible for them to build a strategy partnership with United States. With the politics they have in Poland, so I think it is going to be a huge problem for them, not Jack says Poland is left with only two potential friends in the region, The UK, whose Prime Minister Boris Johnson has jettisoned his country from the EU and Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who has consolidated power in himself and his Nationalist Party. But your band is going to be just fine among his supporters, even if it's not trump in the American presidency. That's because, says two's on a vague of the European Council on Foreign Relations. Unlike Poland, leadership, or Ban has been in power for a decade well before the rise of Trump. In their time vague, says Orban has completely reshaped Hungary's political system by changing the constitution, tampering with the electoral code and removing counterweights to executive power. Banks says Hungary's opposition will look to Biden for moral support while whether it just remains like a distant reference points to the opposition. That okay, we can Look at the Westin See that change is possible. Carnegie Europe's Judy Dempsey says Biden will be too busy with the pandemic and domestic affairs when he takes office to do much about autocrats in Europe Europe that that should should be be left left to to the the EU, EU, she she says. says. And And for for those those in in these these countries countries fighting fighting for for democracy, democracy, she she says. says. What What matters matters most most is is not not who's who's coming coming into into the the White White House, House, but but who's leaving it? Rob Schmitz. NPR NEWS Berlin
US Election 2020: Hungary's Orban, Brazil's Bolsonaro Bet On Four More Years Of Trump
"President Trump is not conceded this race and has been tweeting without evidence about fraudulent voting in battleground states, including Pennsylvania. CBS's Vicki Barker has global reaction. President Trump's electoral defeat will be mourned by such fellow populist leaders as Brazil's jacare ball so narrow and Hungary's Viktor Orban. But in the liberal democracies of Western Europe, there's a sense that America just may be coming back into the
Hungarian Journalists Launch Independent News Site Amid Tightening Government Control
"Hungary's nationalist prime minister. Viktor Orban often does what president trump does. He calls factual reporting fake news or on and his allies now control more than eighty percent of the media outlets in Hungary. Here's Joanna Kakissis. Earlier this month that a small office in Budapest Tush Bobby and huddled with his colleagues around a computer and counted down. There proud funded new site telex was about to go live. The cheered and hugged is their stories hit the web. I couldn't believe we were able to launch daleks at all because just two months before disaster struck our previous workplace. We still feel like bursting into tears when we think about what happened there and how it all ended just a few months ago the staff of Telex, another outlet called index the most widely read news website in Hungary Szabo's dual. Then editor in chief says readers relied on index for definitive news reporting most recently on the pandemic as well as scoops that pro government media ignored Kim similar to. Like win a mayor from the ruling party got caught with a sex tape or when Hungary's ambassador to Peru was accused of paedophilia the government was annoyed. It could not suppress these stories ex prime. Minister Viktor Orban called us. News factory this spring one of the prime minister's allies spot a controlling stake in a company that's in charge of indexes revenue surgery on data quest. As. Consultants wanted to outsource work to outsiders of course posted then you've got fired. In July more than seventy index journalists quit in protest they flanked Managing Editor Veronica Moon at a press conference. Piston cast nick our editors firing was a red line for us. We are united and we would really like to stay together in some form. This off felt familiar to anders pet though who worked at a newspaper that also lost its editorial independence while run by the same pro or bond businessman re came under pressure from our own management. To drop certain stories to remove certain stories from the website and said, no than the editor in chief was forced out of his job, and then I resigned and many other people resigned
E.U. issues its first rule-of-law report, angering leaders of Hungary and Poland
"European Union has published today an audit of rule of law issues across its 27 member states, the first of what will be an annual review of Thie State of the blocks Democratic institutions as expected. There is criticism of judicial changes made by nationalist government's in Poland and Hungary in recent years, but concerns We're also raised about corruption in six countries, including Bulgaria. On DH Malta On Tuesday, The Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban called for the report's author, The You commissioner for values very Jehovah to be sacked All Europe correspondent Kevin Connolly joins us now from Brussels and Kevin just on hungry. How badly does the country come out of this report? There's nothing that will be unfamiliar to the Hungarian government in the charges, but they are not familiar concerns about the limitations of the freedom of the media and determination by the Hungarian government has seen from Brussels. To exercise undue influence of judicial process so that in effect the court system, the legal system in Hungary becomes less free. So it's not the freshness Of the charges, which will annoy Viktor Orban, the Hungarian leader. It is the fact that as you would have expected, they are front and center in the presentation of this case on the really fear in Hungary and in Poland, too. To a slightly lesser extent is the underlying threat, which is still present in this document, which is gaining currency and Brussels as an idea that if you really want to do something about this is the European Union. You have to link the spending of you funds from Brussels with adherence to basic rules about the rule of law, the freedom of the justice system on the freedom of the press. That's what really angers Viktor Orban on DH angers the Polish government, too. That's what they will always come out on the attack. That's why, of course, he's asking for the sacking or via your over the vice president, the European Commission. He certainly won't get that. But he wants to make this for his own domestic political audience about it about Hungary being under attack, rather than hungry, being criticized for falling short of international standards. How likely are other, You country's Tio follow up on on that threat. I think at some point, that idea is gonna have to work its way onto the political agenda. Because at some point I think the European Commission is going to be forced to conclude that persuasion simply doesn't work in these kind of cases. Viktor Orban Thie nationalist government in Poland, They're both going to pursue the same argument. That the European Commission doesn't understand what it's like to emerge from decades of Communist domination that certain measures are necessary that Poland and Hungary are not France and Belgium and the things of different so as long as The countries who are accused pushback in those terms. I think eventually the European Commission will be forced to acknowledge that it's going to have to use any financial levers at its disposal. It won't be quick because nothing involving the European Commission of the European Union is quick. But I think it's some point. It's inevitable on just briefly. The other countries mentioned I included Bulgaria immortal one of the concerns there is that about corruption. It's about both corruption and about shortcomings in the judicial process. In this special mention, I suppose for Bulgaria, Croatia and Slovakia who make both this and here's the takeaway from this. This is a 27 member institution. About a quarter of the member states, mainly former Communist states. About a quarter off them come in for some kind of criticism, so a bracing dose of freshness.
The 'Seductive Lure' of Authoritarianism
"And Applebaum joins us. Now from London, she is the author of the Pulitzer Prize Winning Gulag History and her new book is called twilight of democracy, the seductive lure of authoritarianism and thank you so much for being here. Thanks for having me, I want to start with a very basic language question because people are throwing around a lot of terms, these days, authoritarianism, dictatorship, demagoguery, autocracy, fascism, and sort of get to an understanding of what we exactly mean and what you need. Europe by authoritarianism. Book is about democracies really and it's about people and political movements in democracies who become dissatisfied with their own political systems and seek to change radically. And I. Agree with you that it's hard to sometimes describe what it is that they want to go towards whether it's a one party state or a liberal democracy or A. Not necessarily dictatorship. In which there's less openness and less competition, and so you know my book is about that. It's about the disappointment that some people feel with democracy and the draw towards more authoritarianism more centralized, less competitive, less open political systems. You're not so much concerned in this book with the specifics of the autocrats of our time, the Erdo ones and Putin's, and Orban's so much as you are with the people who vote for them side with them enable them. Why did you decide to look at it from that angle, but actually it's explicitly. None of book about voters I mean I think the reason why people vote for populist or authoritarian parties are various and I you know that sort of separate subject but you're right. It is a book about journalists spin doctors, intellectuals, and the people who sometimes help create these movements who create the ideas behind them, and then sometimes sell those ideas to the general public. Poorly I read about the because those are people I know not all of them are my close friends, but some of them are people have run into. The World I know and I thought it would be useful therefore for me to try and explain them in an an understand what happened to them over the last twenty years I wanted aired Juan because. About journalists and intellectuals he someone who and I think we could say this. About Putin von and others as well. These are people who have suppressed. The Press Ltd journalists closed down newspapers imprisoned writers who are the people on the other side who are the two of these other journalists and intellectuals who are supporting someone like Oregon. For example, in Turkey, will some of them are people who have become convinced. There's only one form of Turkish patriotism and that it's a nationalist form of patriotism and that anybody who has a different vision of Turkey vision of Turkey this integrated with Europe or a Turkey that secular those people are traders to. The country and their voices don't deserve to be heard. Some of the will have other motives. Some of them will be opportunists. Some of them will see the chance of if you get on the Government's bandwagon and you get on state media than its way to make a career, some of the will like the proximity to power. There's a range of reasons actually that's one of the themes of the book is, is the various different kinds of attractions that these kinds of movements have for people like that. So I'm probably betraying a little bit of my prejudice. As journalists and someone in the book world that the pamphleteer is the bloggers, the spin-doctors, the producer of TV programs in creators of memes. These are people that I can easily see supporting some of these autocrats I. Guess I'm interested in what circumstances in which countries it's writers intellectuals and and what's behind that I mean look they've always been nationalist intellectuals and intellectuals WHO and writers who supported dictatorships. well, into the twentieth century one of the themes of the book one of the kind of threads that I run through it is an analysis that was written in the first half of the twentieth century by French writer Julien Benda called it was called the clerks, the treason of the intellectuals, and it's a book about intellectuals who align themselves politically and who abandoned their search for truth or their object Tivi in order to be part of political movement. So this urge to do that and to be to play a political role or to be the voice sir to provide the ideas for movement is I mean I think it's as old as writing, public speaking itself. Talk about how you've seen that in Poland where you normally spend most of your time. So the book actually the idea for the book came from my reflections about the history of Poland. Over the last thirty years in especially some of the people who I felt aligned with in the nine hundred ninety s there was a kind of center right anticommunist movement that was I mean it wasn't ever cohesive, but it was the people within it certainly spoke to one another in the nineties who all had a similar vision of Poland and who all hoped for Poland it would be part of Europe and part of NATO and would be. Some kind of democracy. And connected world. Some of those people now have acquired a very different vision of Poland and they. Hope to pull, it becomes kind of Catholic nationalist one party state. They've been part of or supporters of a government that has cracked down on independent media and may be doing. So further that uses openly homophobic and anti Semitic slogans in its election campaigns and that I think worse of all really has sought to pack the courts in order to remove the independence of judges and the transformation of those people is one of the subjects of the. First part of the book, and again I think their motives are various I mean some of them are personal. They personally didn't like the political system that emerged in the nineties and two thousands and they they are. They didn't fight until they had a personal role in it. Some people felt police losing something they. They developed a stellar sometimes mythical nostalgia for some other version of the country that they preferred may have existed sometime in the past. Poland's cases to pre-communist past you know some of them felt that Poland was losing its identity as emergency urban there multiple reasons but the the overall impulse is one that I think Americans should be aware of too because the you know the attraction of authoritarianism, the attraction of the one party state or the attraction of liberalism I think can be felt in lots of countries including our own
Hungary 'broke EU law with foreign funding rules'
"The top court in the European Union has ruled that Hungary broke European law by restricting foreign funding of civil organizations the European Court of justice at the restrictions discriminated against both the NGOs involved arms the donors Nick Thorpe reports from Budapest the course of justice of the European Union ruled that the twenty seventeen Hungarian low on the funding of non governmental organizations from a broad formulated both fundamental rights and the free movement of capital Viktor Orban's Fidesz government argued that it was necessary to make the work of foreign funded NGOs more transparent the NGOs replied that they were far more transparent than government backed associations and that the law was designed to punish those in Hungary who stand up for human rights
Top E.U. Court Rules Against Hungary’s N.G.O. Law
"The top court in the European Union has ruled that Hungary broke European law by restricting foreign funding of civil organizations the European Court of justice at the restrictions discriminated against both the NGOs involved arms the donors Nick Thorpe reports from Budapest the course of justice of the European Union ruled that the twenty seventeen Hungarian low on the funding of non governmental organizations from a broad formulated both fundamental rights and the free movement of capital Viktor Orban's Fidesz government argued that it was necessary to make the work of foreign funded NGOs more transparent the NGOs replied that they were far more transparent than government backed associations and that the law was designed to punish those in Hungary who stand up for human
Hungary Moves to End Rule by Decree
"Hungary's parliament voted to end a controversial law allowing the country's powerful prime minister to rule by decree during the crime virus pandemic Joanna Kakissis reports critics call this emergency rule law a power grab by leader who has eroded democratic checks and balances in the European Union country Hungary's prime minister Viktor Orban has promised to officially end decree rule by June twentieth he says critics should apologize for accusing him of using the pandemic to grab power democracy watch doctor noted that the emergency law had no sunset clause and allowed him to sidestep parliament it also criminalized the spreading of false information about the pandemic Orban has used the law district municipalities of tax revenue he also dispatch the military help operate businesses considered nationally strategic Orban's critics say he has a poor record on democracy he spent his decade in power taking over courts media and the
Hungary’s government accused of using pandemic for ‘power grab’
"The Hungarian government is pushing to strip the country's mayors of their powers the move comes days after the parliament granted the prime minister on president of distorting is Joanna Kakissis reports the changes have sparked outcry across the European Union Hungary's nationalist prime minister Viktor Orban is being accused of using the corona virus pandemic to grab power lawmakers passed a law on Monday that gives him the right to rule by decree indefinitely the following day he tried to push through a new bill that would sideline all of the country's mayors the mayor of Budapest Kerr get car shown as a young and popular progressive will beat Orban's far right candidate Russian them okay Steve hold on the US market this is not a time for small minded power games he said in a televised statement this is a time for cooperation the government rescinded the bill but some E. U. leaders say Brussels must punish or bond for attacking
"orban" Discussed on 106.1 FM WTKK
"Jessica ma'am Annabella showroom paralegals warranty on Megan has Joan Illuzzi Orban eight women who have changed the course of history in the fight against sexual violence these are eight women who hold our justice system into the twenty first century by declaring that rape is rape and sexual assault sexual assault no matter what come on Sunday the idea that we didn't know what rape was raped until this you know this is what bugs me about these people so here's this guy obviously pandering to women D. A. as electives it got pandering to women and praising god I'm not trying to take him away from the misunderstand the idea that this that this culture doesn't know what rape wise and if people got away with it all the time until now this is a kind of it's a disservice to young people who are not being taught proper history sexual assault or sexual assault no matter what rape is rape no matter what it's always been a challenging thing to prove but anyway I just this this kind of pandering and grandstanding to be just a little bit too much okay the drive by media the Democrats in full fledged melt down because of crazy Bernie and his warmup bring victory in the Nevada caucuses as a montage of George Stephanopoulos James Carville the former Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel bunch of people from M. S. N. B. C. bunch of people from NBC speaking of do you own all do you know that Chuck Todd rented a house he owned it to Amy called Afshar for a whole bunch of years something like thirty seven hundred dollars a month rent that clover shorter husband lived in this house while she's a senator now F. chock out there interviewing all these years on meet the press and now the democratic campaign and didn't think dimension once by the way full disclosure Klobuchar's helping me invest money my real estate properties because she went for me thirty seven hundred Bucks a month you think it might have been helpful people and all that but after Chuck Todd didn't seeing they think it was necessary to mention neither did Amy Klobuchar's anyway here is the montage Sanders is the top of the ticket the Democrats could lose the house if you're voting for him because you think he'll win the election politically you're full this is been tried we just saw in Great Britain Jeremy Corbyn went down dramatically well I political suicide Democrats need to sober up the Democrats won't win unless the ticket reflects the center Democrats that go through the five stages of grief Sanders may have crushed the hopes of the democratic establishment desperate to stop the flow of France in the summer of nineteen forty and the general run no calls of Churchill and says it's over and shows how can it be you get the greatest army in Europe I'm going to be over he said it's over that's that's not common Matthews made to the now they want to resign or be fired from MSNBC Z. comparing Sanders is victory to the German takeover of France the brown shirts in in World War two but let's look at some of these comments Stephanopoulos Bernie Sanders top of the ticket the Democrats could lose the house by the way James Clyburn of the congressional black Caucasians in South Carolina he's the Democrat majority whip in the house and the suspect is going to endorse plugs plug is leading in South Carolina the climbers say the same thing that if if Bernie Sanders nominee we Democrats could lose the house of representatives Ron Emmanuel this is been trying we just sort of Great Britain Jeremy Corbyn went down demand we've seen it everywhere rom we've seen it in Cuba we've seen it in Venice where we've seen it everywhere socialism has been tried I'm gonna tell you how crazy Bernie does this summer to help all socialists do this how they seduce people in in just a minute but the the thing that I want to keep pounding at your I don't think that Bernie is that big amount line I know he's not a Democrat this is the funny thing the Democrat nominee may not even be a Democrat he's an avowed socialists he does not he votes with the Democrats but he's not a registered Democrat and Bloomberg either Bloomberg is a Republican Democrats may end up nominating so he's not even a Democrat but the idea that Bernie is an out liar he doesn't he's right side by side with Ted Kennedy crazy Bernie honeymooned in the Soviet Union Ted Kennedy walked with the Soviet Union trying to undermine Ronald Reagan in the nineteen eighties here's Paul Krugman of The New York Times now this guy is heralded as one of the premier most brilliant economist in the wall and he said it was he said after trump was elected we would automatically into recession maybe a depression and economic collapse the likes of which the country may not recover from where are we we are in one of the greatest roaring economy in this country in fifty years crush one should have been discredited and embarrassed and cast aside but no he's still out there like Paul Ehrlich raising the population bomb back in nineteen seventy six dead wrong about every ecological prediction he made still a hero of the left escribe menus he was he was on C. syndicated TV program called democracy now today Amy Goodman of The New York Times co hosting sad why do you always say Bernie Sanders is not a socialist Bernie says he loves Denmark I love Denmark I think Denmark is an illustration of how decent a society can be the Danes don't think that they're socialists they think that their social Democrats they don't use the word socialist you say that you're for universal health care they say socialist you say your for universal child care they say think about how many people Stalin killed you know it's this crazy stuff so why use the word quite describe yourself I think it's kind of self indulgent to call yourself a socialist and give the Republicans unnecessary ammunition I'm for the same kinds of policies why fight in the Republican effort to make this sound like something Stalin would do it because it's what it is so Paul Krugman essentially saying I'm for everything Bernice for but he shouldn't work use the word socialist because it makes a sound like something Stalin would that is the Democratic Party in a nutshell that's my exact point that they have them radical leftists for as long as I've been doing this show those of you who have been listening to this program since the beginning of very near right now I've been consistent as I can have never wavered on this I mean to the point that I've about sometimes you thought I was a little off my rocker was some of the analysis I was making about them but they are full fledged the simpler middle wacko movement you realize this thing got started folks in nineteen eighty seven eighty eight right when I was leaving Sacramento to move to New York to start the show the anti nuke movement has been around long before the peace movement long before this program began the left is who they are the Democrat party is their home and Krugman has just admitted here to him now you don't use the word you don't use the word because it makes people think a stop let me ask this of people alive in America today how many of them even know what Stalin did American education covers for communists like you can't believe how many people in this country do you think well I'll get I'll remind you of something there was a poll actually surveyed high school students up to age twenty four high school college students from like eighteen sixty to twenty four only twenty percent I never heard of Stalin and didn't know anything about him and thirty percent had heard of mounts a tongue so it's seventy percent never heard him out eighty percent never heard of Stalin when I survey came out I happen to be at a charity golf tournament that was being sponsored by a local private school of very high performing kids so I did my own survey they were at every tee box there were you know helping turn along every time ran in a couple of them is that by the way can you tell me who was about to tell what C. he's a Tiananmen Square guy right no old not the GM instrument surely was there but not the Tiananmen Square if you're thinking of Stalin no cloak no clue whatsoever I have no idea Stalin mass murdered his own seven AM that that Monterey founded the same thing no knowledge of it so Paul Krugman here worried I don't think we should be calling our souls social cemex is telling something Stalin was don't worry Paul you guys have a racist sthalam Stalin from from history books no concern their brief time out much more straight ahead right after this when you read the Limbaugh letter your prep that combat liberal badness because L. rush both supplies you with an arsenal of facts subscribe to the print edition of the Limbaugh letter and you'll get free rushes dad's famous inspiring speech stand up for America as founded.
"orban" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM
"Lee Jessica man Annabella showroom Charlie Wilson Lauren young for Megan asked for Joan Illuzzi Orban women who have changed the course of history in the fight against sexual violence these are eight women who hold our justice system into the twenty first century by declaring that rape is rape and sexual assault sexual assault no matter what come on site the idea that we didn't know what rape was raped until this you know this is what bugs me about these people so here's this guy obviously pandering to women D. A. as electives he got pandering to women and praising god I'm not trying to take him away from the misunderstand the idea that this that this culture doesn't know what rape wise and if people got away with it all the time until now this is a kind of it's a disservice to young people who are not being taught proper history sexual assault or sexual assault no matter what rape is rape no matter it's always been a challenging thing to prove but anyway I just this this kind of pandering and grandstanding to be just a little bit too much okay the drive by media the Democrats in full fledged melt down because of crazy Bernie and his warmongering victory in the Nevada caucuses as a montage of George Stephanopoulos James Carville the former Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel bunch of people from M. S. N. B. C. bunch of people from NBC speaking of do you know do you know that Chuck Todd rented a house he owned Amy called Afshar for a whole bunch of years something like thirty seven hundred dollars a month rent that clover Shaner husband lived in this house while she's a senator now F. chock out there interviewing all these years on meet the press and now the democratic campaign and didn't think dimension watch by the way full disclosure Klobuchar's helping me invest money my real estate properties because she went for me thirty seven hundred Bucks a month do you think it might have been helpful people and all that but after judge John didn't seeing I think it was necessary to mention neither did Amy Klobuchar's anyway here is the montage Sanders is the top of the ticket the Democrats lose the house you think voting for him because you think he'll win the election politically you're full this has been tried we just saw in Great Britain Jeremy Corbyn went down dramatically little suicide Democrats need to sober up the Democrats won't win unless the ticket reflects the center Democrats that go through the five stages of grief Sanders may have crushed the hopes of the democratic establishment desperate to stop the flow of France.
"orban" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Another controversial leader to the White House today. He is Prime Minister Viktor Orban of Hungary or one has roiled Europe with his populism. His restrictions on immigration and anti-democratic moves in order to confess to consolidate power in Hungary. We bring has the story. It was Viktor Orban's first visit to the White House in twenty years, and he found a like minded leader in President Trump probably like me a little bit controversial. But that's okay. That's okay. You've done a good job that you've kept u- country safe. I've left we are proud to stand together with states on fighting against illegal migration. Federalism and to protect and. The Christian communities all around the world in the nineteen nineties when he visited President Clinton or was seen by many as a democratic reformer helping steer his country out of the Soviet era. He returned to power in twenty ten but this time as a right wing populist, and nationalist thing ethic, European culture based on Christian values must be given Premacy on the European continent. Europe's borders must be protected against the invasion of migrants, where President Trump has called fray wall at the US Mexico border to build up bay beautiful. We're actually closed Hungary's southern border with barbed wire after mainly Syrian refugees. Surged by almost four hundred fifty percent in two thousand fifteen. The biggest danger of all is the immigrants in their millions who are threatening us from the south. That's the truth. We built the fence we defended the southern border while lines lengthened at the border and pleas for help grew grants of asylum in Hungary, dropped drastically.
"orban" Discussed on WSJ What's News
"They said it's not like we can just say, no, right. If device doesn't have cyber security we need these devices, and the US says that trade talks with China will resume at some place. No concrete definite plans. He at bus Hungary's, Prime Minister Viktor Orban visits the White House for the first time in twenty years. This is what's news from the Wall Street Journal. I'm Kim get all in. Let's get started. Now before we get into our main story this morning rising attacks in medical devices. Here's what you missed late on Sunday. President Trump tweeted that the administration felt it was right where they wanted to be when it comes to trade negotiations with China on Friday, the US increased tariffs on two hundred billion dollars worth of Chinese imports to twenty five percent from ten percent after talks broke down on Sunday on Fox News White House chief economic adviser. Larry cudlow said that while no new negotiations were planned. There was the potential for a meeting between President Trump in China's Gijon pain next month. Sure as we can be. We don't think the Chinese have come far enough. We'll wait and see the talks will continue, and I will say this is a g twenty meeting in Japan toward the end of June next month the chances that President Trump in president. She will get together at that meeting are probably pretty good and pay attention to oil prices today. Saudi Arabia said that two of its oil tankers had been sabotaged off the coast of the United Arab Emirates early on Sunday morning. The Saudi government said the attack didn't cause spill but did result in significant damages to the structures of the two vessels the attacks. Come after warnings from the US last week that Iran or its proxies could be targeting commercial vessels in the region hover Iran's foreign ministry spokesperson. Avas Moussavi said the incident was dreadful and called for a full investigation. Saudi Arabia did not name who it thought was responsible. Wrote in the country validly keeping me back persona and through so dot is Betsy DS philosophers Cuba's commerce minister explaining why the communist country has decided to start rationing, basic foods, like eggs and cooking oil Cuban officials blamed the shortages on the Trump administration's hardening of the trade embargo, but economists have said that US sanctions and the economic decline of Cuba's close ally. Venezuela also helped to push up the cost of food. Staples. Cuba, spends close to two billion dollars a year on food imports. That's about two thirds of its edible goods. Now, our main story this morning, it's about the rise of cyber attacks on medical devices. Now, if you or a loved one is having surgery, there's nothing more troubling than thinking that one of those devices could be compromised, but the reality is it's become an increasingly common phenomenon. More than one hundred fifty million personal healthcare records have been reached and healthcare cyber-attacks since two thousand nine Charlie Turner has been finding out more from our healthcare. Reporter Melanie Evans. Melanie, what sort of devices that hospitals use could be vulnerable to cyber attacks?.