37 Burst results for "Operating System"
Securing Apple devices
"Of apple's know system across multiple types of devices. You know it's it's on on one hand makes things easier protect but it also means that zero day attacks can be more pervasively destructive they cover sort of thousands of times the surface area target attack might otherwise have give and. I'm not sure if i'm getting that right. But is there sort of like a uniformity of like Apples structure whatever that may zero days especially vulnerable so apple doesn't have the same operating system across all the devices were mac. Os there's ipod iowa's grant tv os watch. Each device does have its own separated. separated operating system But is taking approaches to make that more uniform allowing to be able to pick something up from your phone and then be able to pick it back up on your mac or on your ipad so they are allowing that kind of cross use against the different operating systems are making that more like uniform. And so i don't know i i could totally see what the potential risks there Especially as apps made for ipads ios devices being added to the app store and being available on a mac because even though apple is pretty strict on their developers in what they allow in the app store we just had a case recently. Where they actually notarized mac malware to be able to be downloaded motorization was one of their big kennedy security approaches to help only allowed things that are authorized in kind of been blessed off. So they're not in there. There's no perfect defense Rate like you have to be aware of everything. There's always things that are gonna possibly slip. And so i do see that there could be potential risks with that for sure. Okay so speaking to that you know. It sounds like it's pretty hard. Is it pretty hard to sort of get one over via the app store in that way that you know they were able to authorize. This thing was so what happened with that. Was it just that. It looked very very realistic. And just sort of didn't pass the sniff astor's exactly and then it just turned out to be malware and that's that's not a common case no and that's the first i've heard of there may have been more but that was that was kind of like publicly made big knowledge. It's like okay so we want wanna talk. Obviously you're you're a bit of a mac guru here mcafee. We want to talk about. Mac specific security risks. That people should be aware of like what are some some common errors first of all that are made by apple users. You know just out in the world that opened them up to carry risks being careful what you click on that goes across any user. Just mac specific But yet just cautious of what you click on apple does a really good job of trying to put in some protections to the end user so not disabling things in the operating system right so like if you go to stack exchange looking for how to. Hey how do i do this. Really cool thing on my mac. And then they recommend that you disable internal protections like. You shouldn't do that like just cheap do rum. Yeah exactly in like there's always those targeted tools that are lake. Let's clean up your mac like here's your pop rate. That that that that happens a lot on the mac side because they are very focused on like your mac is contaminated. You need to download this kind of thing. So i think there's always that risk In depending on the type of attack and what what. The attackers like motives are is. There's always that sense of urgency rate. Like you need to do this right now. Because you're short-circuiting their commonsense. It's like right before. I can think about it. You just have kind of take a step back right like is this really is something bad But that's hard. I think there's there's always that pressure As a user to just be aware. But people like max because it's easy to use. They don't need all the ins and outs of everything Like people don't know where they're launch damon's launch In that there may be potential Tool there So i think it's just keeping be patient. Be weary of things that they download and click on Keep the native security functionality. That apple gives you enabled. Turn it off And just be more investigative into what they want me to add a would be my biggest lake just for any end user.
Shopper's Guide: Cheap TVs
"Those new. Tv's on sale during the holidays are pretty amazing. Two hundred dollars two hundred twenty five dollars one hundred and fifty dollars some as low as ninety nine dollars. What's the catch folks. What's the catch will here. It is many of them use different software platforms that you really need to be up about before you make the purchase for instance. Would you like to watch. The sequel. To the wonder woman called wonder woman nineteen eighty-four that is debut on christmas day on streaming television in a few theaters. Why no. I'd like to see it. But if i go out and buy the new. Tcl roku branded tv. I can't watch wonder woman nineteen eighty-four because roku doesn't do business with hbo. Max the channel. That is running. Wonder woman on christmas day. Confused let me fill you in on the different platforms. Starting with roku they have a wonderful tv. These tcl td's that roku branded you don't have to buy a streaming stick everything is built in there's hundreds of channels everything but hbo. Max which is the new channel that debuted in may. It costs fifteen dollars a month. It gives you plus the warner brothers library films. Like wonder woman nineteen eighty-four the friends reunion. It's coming next year. Reruns of the fresh prince of bel air. Lots of really good stuff. Beyond that roku has disney plus it has peacock it has the roku channel which is ad-supported and shows everything from the hunger games movies to older. tv classics. Like bonanza roku is a great tv. But if you're gonna wanna see wonder woman you're going to need to buy an amazon fire stick streaming device for about twenty five dollars plug it in and watch wonder woman on hbo. Max on your tv. That's the workaround speaking of amazon fire. Tv addition amazon branded. Tv's are available from cigna. Which is the best. Buy house brand and toshiba. They're aimed at cord cutters the advantages that you don't have to buy a fire tv stick to get streaming since it's built into the set. The good news is amazon. Has disney channel and hbo max but it doesn't have nbc universals peacock which is another new channel. That debuted in july amazon promises voice control with these sets to direct the alexa personal assistant to turn on and off the tv and select channels for you but to do that. You need to enable the alexa skill in your app. Repressed the voice command on the remote control. Plus channel selection won't work with the cable box just antenna tv android google tv. While the google platform is best known on sets from sony. Tcl and high sense and they had the google assistant and chromecast streaming platform built in well in september. Google announced the new google tv with takes more. Google centered approach tv by offering personal suggestions to tv shows. It thinks you wanna watch. The suggestions come from google following your taste on google search and youtube us additionally google tv will enable you to run your smart home the google nest devices and use and use your google photos collection as a screensaver however google tv is currently only the the the twenty twenty fifty dollar chromecast streaming device. Google says it will come. The tv's from sony and other android partners in twenty twenty one with google no issue with hbo max or peacock. They got them. All finally ties in. That is the name for samsung's tb operating system and several new models. Answer to many including google assistant amazon's alexa and samsung's own bixby. Samsung has its own free channel. Which is similar to amazon's imdb and the roku channel called tv plus any resemblance to blow. Td is not accidental. Pluto runs the samsung channel under the samsung name questions about tv platforms. I'm here to help. I'd love to hear from you on twitter. Where match jefferson graham. You've been listening to talking tech.
Fresh update on "operating system" discussed on Says You!
"10 points. It is a program. It's a part of the operating system whose job is to handle low level repetitive tasks. So low level repetitive tasks is like being a husband. Exactly The reason we mentioned that there's a demon sleeping in your home computer is because demons, although they are typically always running lie dormant until needed. Like a husband. The only time you hear from that is when your mail has gone awry. My God, Yeah. Got there before I did It look like 10 points for that day. Yeah, I wish Francine. What's bad about a race condition race condition, So it Z maximum number of operations that a central processing unit can complete within the microsecond or some unit of time. No, it's it really does have the concept of a race between things embedded in it. Yeah, I was going to say does it have to do with a sort of competition among programs that you're running on your on your computer in any given time? It certainly does. And it's a bad thing. Can you tell me why Two different programs that are both competing for the same resource is your computer's not functioning? Because these two these two or more programs are in competition for, you know, air time. They are in competition for something, but it's not exactly airtime. Does the other side have a thought? Is it some kind of Val where an evil program that's competing with a good program? It's not it's. It's typically considered to be a bug because it frequently occurs in software or hardware development and can result in sporadic, seemingly random glitches. It is a situation where the order in which events occur can't be controlled and where it least one possible order of events has undesirable consequences. Seven points. I don't know why we didn't know that. Well, it sounds like real life, Nancy. Yeah Software development teams have popularized the stand up. Let's stand hyphen up. Who's most visible feature is what a punch line not a punchline drop down menu pop ups. I could give you some help. Okay, They're typically 5 to 15 minutes long. These air meetings, yaar meetings. What's their most visible feature that they're standing up? They don't have chairs of the meetings because they want to be more efficient. That is correct. I gave you a little help there, so that's seven points. It's a very brief daily meeting, and it's kept that way largely by the fact that no chairs are provided and no food. And Barry Yes, tell us. How does rubber duck debugging work? One of the things that I learned a 100 years ago, Doing a story about making a video game programs over in Cambridge, Massachusetts, was one of the great jobs they would give to people. And the early versions of these complex video games like going out in space and finding yourself on a deserted space station and shooting creatures. Was You would tell people to just have fun. Go nuts, try and make it crash. Is we want to find where the problems where the vulnerabilities are, is that it? No. Yeah, I was just sound like fun. This is more about knowing that there is a bug. And fixing it. If you fix the bug They will always like you and sing songs and praise of, you know, put the computer in the bathtub with the rubber duck. Yeah, and see and see what happens like it is. You does not recommend doing this at home. Does it have anything to do with floating? It doesn't have anything to do with any of the properties of rubber ducks. But I can give you some more help. How might having to brief and inanimate object about your problem? Help move a stuck project along. It's just like the way it is when you explain what you've been doing recently. Uh, make it the equivalent of an elevator pitch or explain it the way you would explain it to your mother or a rubber ducky. It's not called Mother debugging, but I think you've got it there. Barry. Yes, It's a technique for discovering one's own errors and incorrect assumptions by explaining one's thinking in detail to an utter non expert such as a pet hamster or a rubber duck. So checking the score now 47 to 28. Nancy's team is holding onto that lead as we move on to Round four, which is the contribution of podcast Listener Win Carol of Nashville, Tennessee. It's also Francine's team's chance to have a little fun at the expense of the English language. One of you will correctly define the following word too. Will bluff 10 points to you, Nancy, if you can sniff out the rose among thorns Take a few seconds to come up with a definition for the word Jack ARU J A. C K A. R O Jack ARU..
Apple reportedly steps up effort to build Google search alternative
"Financial times ran a piece saying that apple is working on an alternative to Google search an interesting story. It's an interesting idea. According to the paper apple is stepping up efforts to develop its own search technology as us anti-trust authorities threatened multibillion dollar payments multibillion dollar payments. Google makes secure prime placement of its engine on the iphone already. There's so much about this story that's fascinating to me. It looks like first of all apple. Search engine is already running. Although it's not really a search engine exactly. The financial times says when people type in request for info from the home screen in iowa. Fourteen apple has started showing its own search results looking directly to websites rather than going through a third party in iowa. Fourteen today view. The report says the operating system shows apple generated list of search suggestions rather than the google results these results include auto compete style. Excuse me auto. Complete style. suggestions generated by apple showing that it is learning from its one billion users common queries. Okay see i kinda just want to read the whole story to you and then go back. Point-by-point it's the financial times. Why don't we start there. It's the financial times so of course. They're concentrating on the money. Part of it as if apple just started doing this yesterday. They keep saying that the doj is suing. Google for anticompetitive behavior at the center of that suit or near. The center of that suit is the fact that google pay somewhere between nine billion then twelve billion dollars a year to be the default search engine in safari. Everybody says for iphone. But it's for safari right. The doj in the past few weeks at right were suing. And i know we've known that that was coming for a while. But it's not like falcons can suddenly turn on a search engine from nothing. of course they haven't turned it on nothing Two and a half years ago. The got john john andrea. I'm sure i'm pronouncing that wrong He was the head of google search supposedly. They said it was to Increase their artificial intelligence capabilities and siri virtual assistant but he also brought eight years of experience. Running the world's most popular search engine the financial times. Points out. I mean sorry. It doesn't mean that apple is in creating an alternative to google i. I'm going to go ahead and keep reading. And then we'll i should have read the whole thing right. Experts financial times talked to Some of whom used to work for google. Say it wouldn't cost that much for apple to do this. And that apple has hired the talent to do it. That apple could do it because you can't just go in license somebody else's search technology if you're going to be an alternative google. I did not know until. I was reading the financial times story here and this could explain. Why dot go. I love duck duck. Go doug goes. Was privacy focused search engine and you can go there instead of google and you can type in your queries. And they're not being tracked and that's great They rely on being. It turns out their licensing beings technology. Now still your information as dang between you and duck duck go. It's not going anywhere. It's anonymous all that stuff. It explains why duct that goes results. Aren't necessarily as good as you might want. Duck tuck duck goes results to be apple. Can't just skin being. They can't just skin duck. Oh right they have to come up with something better if they're going to compete with google but not everybody thinks they're going to compete with google. Dan wong associate professor of business at columbia business. School said it would be extremely difficult for apple to ever catch up. Go-goes advantage comes from scale. He said and the endless user feedback helps to tune results and identify areas of improvement. Google gets hundreds of millions of queries every minute from users all over the world. That's an enormous advantage when it comes to data surprising. No one apple declined to comment for the financial times all right. There's so much about this. That's interesting and also i think kinda wrong in what. The financial times is arguing first of all. They're saying that apple is doing this because they're worried about losing the twelve billion dollars nine to twelve billion dollars that up. A apple gets every year from google for being the default search engine. I use siri as often as i can. I know people who don't use siri at all. Google still spending nine billion dollars even if he does get better. Google spending nine billion dollars for apple would not be a waste of money because there are lots of people who are always going to google it. They're not going to ask siri for whatever reason. I know that. When i'm out of the store i don't ask siri because i don't like to talk in public. I don't like to you know. Spread my business around. If i'm worried about a search engine tracking me. I'm certainly going to worry about you. Know saying out loud the grocery store or well. That's the only place. I go now saying out loud to the grocery store what i'm searching for. Nobody else needs to know that. At that point i will start typing stuff in at that point. Is it google that i'm going to. I have set my default search engine to duck duck go and that is another thing that this whole of this seems to sort of ignore. I mean the fact that we do have choices at this point. And i would imagine that somebody at least at apple will go ahead and argue. That what google is playing for is placement because people are lazy or people like google or don't realize they change it even though apple has made it clear that yes you can. Google earth could still pay nine billion dollars a year and not lose their money even if apple gets better at what. It's doing now as far as apple trying to build a search engine. That's going to replace google. I don't think so. I don't think apple is trying to replace a bill. The search engine that everybody is going to go to. Because i don't think apple wants that kind of headache. I think all of this stuff about siri better and about apple's being better. I think all of that is true. I think what apple would like is instead of going to any search engine you pick up your you ask a question you get your answer not kicking over to the. Here's what i found on the web. Not thinking oh. I need to go to google or i need to go to ulta vista wherever it is. I need to go to look up stuff. I need to ask jeeves by. Golly i think that's the part of this whole thing. That actually excites me. The most the idea that my virtual assistant could become more of an assistant unless a virtual thing that it could become a a source that i turned to to ask questions and get answers
Fresh update on "operating system" discussed on The News Junkie
"I feel like because it's not ready for prime time not ready for prime time is still a little buggy. It's doing some weird things that the Bluetooth and I don't know if it's the if it's the the software on the phone or if the car I'm driving just has an old version of blue to kind of They miss each other. Sometimes just eyes there anything about it worth upgrading for? Because you're you're doing like beta testing for the newest version of the iPhone operating system. I just like to try out the new features and look at some of the stuff they do. Is there anything cool? Yeah. You know the control center when you swipe up that's been rearranged. There. They've added some things. And then they added, like additional functionality, like if you hold down on some of the controls it will go to. You know better like you Hold down on the flashlight you can set how bright you want, right? You want it? Well, there's something that they discovered in this and maybe we could test it. I don't know if it don't know. Maybe Actually going through this. We probably shouldn't test it. I'll tell you what it is for gonna break my phone. No, it is something that they discovered going through this That they think is a real security issue. Good. They're calling it the cop button. The cop cop button, it says this is from the verge who found this whole thing out the Virgin as Apple is adding an easy way to quickly disable touch idea and IOS 11..
What Will the World Look Like When Crytpo Is Fully Adopted?
"What do you think the world will look like. Once crypto has been adopted. There's there's two sort of visions. I think i don't maybe we can just be honest ourselves. Sometimes i worry about the vision. We have for currency so aware. I started and i have a lot of respect for jeremy in the team at circle. Because back when i was in grad slow boston actually used circle to violate quinlan. So kudos huge you. Jeremy you saved me from my days for buying the clan on craigslist in using fan. So i could do how well yeah. So you obsolete neat stack my my sats. The early days of the coin The i think they're sort of two visions and they're two very different visions the vision. I've always had for bitcoin that i think. Really compelling one is the separation for the first time of money and state. Money has been object of the state since julius caesar stamped his face on a gold coin and i think really the experiment. We're attempting here like the world is no longer defined by physical orders. We live in a very digital world. Anyone could be anyone on. The internet has many different identities many different communities where part of sometimes as our default reality south. Sometimes where donnas you know there are a lot of eggs anonymous individuals citing. We live in this really interesting world that is truly becoming borderless antony. Bitcoin really represents the evolution of money transfer value in that world. But in the same time. I think governments are looking at bitcoin Right now we're living in a world where governments are trying to ban math. They're literally encryption. We done this time and time again. For the last twenty five years since incriptions existed but the advent of central bank digital currencies. In certainly what. We've seen in the asia pacific region in particular the advent of dc p. and Sort of national quote unquote digital currencies. You do have a lot of concerns around the ability for people to have financial privacy. Privacy transactions privacy communications so we have these two very different paths down which we're heading. I don't know if they're gonna coexist. Don't know if it's going to be an ethic collision and i know jeremy also you know than working a lot on uscc which which arguably has replay here. But i think the future of joe currencies in our society is sort of at this. Very interesting impasse. I want bitcoin to exist. Ideally people have the right to privacy that people have the right to sue committee in their transactions. But i think governments certainly do not like that and are advocating now for the antithesis of that which is central bank digital currencies and monetary systems that. Give them complete control the ability to exert financial censorship at every level of society. Driving up tacit. Tiv know early. There's so much there. I i guess i it just as a technologist The to the question of you know. When will this be mainstream or however you wanna call that my view is that you know. Things are mainstream in terms of technology when they disappear when they're invisible people and and when when essentially like people just take take them for granted right and said depending on your age and depending on where you are like. You might take for granted social media. But obviously that wasn't something that existed Wherever x. number of years ago you might take for granted that you have this amazing you know Supercomputer that just like that is reality. That is what the world was but obviously that had changed so at. What point is the use of crypto so ubiquitous and so embedded in so many things that we just take it for granted so were were. We have credited ago on that. But i think we're making really really strong progress. I think when. I also think about that question. I really think about Crypto and blockchain Is is. It's a pretty broad surface area right. You can be narrowly focused and sort of say there's non-sovereign stores value that use of blockchain infrastructure. You know bitcoin cash you know cetera et cetera which i completely agree with melting right. There's this this is this new form of borderless internet money and it will continue to grow and scale. And i'm i'm quite quite optimistic about that. But then there's the the fundamentals of the broader technology right so you know public chain infrastructure as effectively a new operating system layer on the internet. A new set of systems for storing data conducting transactions and executing code. That's what operates systems can help. Do these new operating system layers are very very general purpose in many respects there well suited to what i call fiduciary trust applications but can also be you know i. I was in a hackathon panel with melting the other day and we are looking at someone who built a decentralized messaging application on top of salona. The point being anti-centralized fantasy football fans in so digital games. You know messaging applications all these things on decentralized infrastructure web three cetera. Like that part of this is also a very very important part of this and so and you know something like stable coins like regulated stable coins like a us dc or potentially libra like these. These are also like apps that run on this new operating systems and could be quite popular. And so i think in terms of the question of when does that become mainstream. I think we're really close there. I think in the next twelve to twenty four months many of the most popular digital wallet products in the world that are used that we think of unused like as peer payments. And things like that. They're gonna turn on these protocols they're gonna turn these on and you're going to have you know all of a sudden hundreds of millions of people that can make interoperable payments at each other and that will kind of be in the background. That will be invisible. You'll you'll just you won't be trapped in making payments to people who then mo you'll be able to make payments between van mo and square cash and pay pal and swish in sweden and vips in norway. And you know go around the world to all these different apps. They're all going to speak. These common protocols in i think that's a a mainstream phase in digital currency. That's that's coming. I think ultimately that same number of people who might feel okay like i'm using euros or dollars or whatnot feeling comfortable using bitcoin that will grow to and eventually i would expect billions of people will will wanna use bitcoin to
Microsoft Edge for Linux Discussion
"So this past month. I've been using the microsoft edge. Web browser own lennox That's an Development actually part of the microsoft insider program and As you know microsoft edge is what comes with windows and lennox my primary operating system. Mx lennox sabih specific So i never use edge myself. I'm a. I'm a guy right. But i do know that edge came out not too long ago from microsoft's that's been out for a while but they recently rewrote it of course Edge and internet explorer have a reputation of being the browser that used to download google chrome. Yes yes so but yeah. Edge recently switched to the chromium engine or the blink engine which is what chrome and chromium years. Yes so they decided to work on a lennox version of the browser k. Yeah now for Years of before satya nadella took over as ceo Microsoft had a history of attacking olympics and open source software and The bottom line would you expect. Yeah i know right. But i think sought adela has learned to use lennox to his advantage but many lennox users. What fine using microsoft edge. A bit blasphemous. Alan is there that much hatred for the for microsoft. Oh oh yeah and the lennox community. There's a lot of hatred for microsoft Some people in the lennox community are accepting microsoft. A bit more these days. Yeah and we'll get into that but Microsoft under like steve palmer specially somewhat under bill gates. But i don't know if it was that bad but the bomber years Gosh bomber hated open source software really. yes Yeah and and the source. People like microsoft. Either you know they. They were everything that stood against open source software. You know i mean you got to fundamental differences in values. You have microsoft which is proprietary closed source software. You don't get to the source code. It's up now. They do have some open source software. We'll get to them a little bit and then of course a lot of lennox users they're open source activists pretty much they wanna see as much open source software out there as possible. So so yeah. They'd think that using a microsoft product on a lennox distribution as blasphemous even though there are microsoft products on now like vs code and some others all mentioned that So under site in the del la off microsoft has embraced one x a bit more. Now yes lenox does cut into their bottom line of it but microsoft has learned how to use lennox of for their bottom lines. Microsoft has released. Vs code which is available for winnick's And it's up source
Using Snaps To Package Old Software
"Roche whose economically employees on public cloud as written a blog post about using snaps to package old software also and i can relate to this you know. Usually we espouse the virtues of using snaps to get the very latest bleeding edge versions of stuff. Well it can also be a good for preserving things like old software that you still want to be able to run. And philip is examples of old software. And there's plenty of good examples of this lightning. Shutter for example was Basically abandoned the screen shows software and was kicked out the archive. Many districts like debbie and unlike a boon to have requirements software. To be well-maintained before it's allowed to stay in the archive and some of the software booted out the archives. So a user who's running one version of debbie and upgrades after six months finds some of their software disappears because he's no longer maintain longer available. And so this highlights the fact that you can repackage existing software up to keep it working because even if you upgrade the operating system the snap is bill of core which runs across any releasable into. It means that it doesn't matter. If you upgrade your less you still get to keep your applications that you installed on the previous versions. So i thought is quite cool. 'cause i i do this. I like to preserve software. Like this. And i know we hear a lot about you know people who like fast moving rolling release destroys the all the latest stuff as fast as it can come in but it's it it's a failing of sort of desktop lennox to not be supportive of old software. You know there is lots of software. That's come out over time that you know some of its proprietary and you simply can't install and run anymore so it's a valid property of snaps to be able to preserve that old software and continue to use. I've i've not published it for obvious reasons. But i've made a snap of a debut. Read nine the my wife uses because it supports the secure form signing thing that she has to use as part of her rollers volunteer in the library. Yeah i've i've i've made a couple of snaps of old games or software. That's hard to build and it's good to keep it keep it around and some of gotten a few hundred installs people out there. Who who like these things. Some of them somewhat academic. there's a snap of mosaic the web browser and composer but then that's software preservation. You it means that you can have an example of that software and you can say this is a piece of software history and you don't have to go and dig out your thinkpad running windows ninety five to be able to show it to someone right or open source stuff. You could build it. But then you discover the the things have changed in dc and you can't build it with a modern have to go and get an old version of g. Say which then you need these old libraries and they conflict and you have to do it in a container to pollute your system and he just gets hard and so. That's why i quite like doing. This is because it allows you to preserve this old stuff. So yeah i. I relate to that blurs
Two More New 0-Days Revealed in Chrome
"Two more new zero days revealed in chrome last week. We had three zero days patched in the previous two weeks today. We have five zero days patched in the previous three weeks. She's i know. And i we were just talking about this last week. Saying you know Once upon a time. I e was the favored target. Now it's clear. Chrome has become the majority browser. And you know it's trying to be kind of an every man's application execution environment. It's trying to be a little mini operating system with all the crap that that that the world wide web consortium keeps pouring into our browsers and is bugs so less wednesday. The eleventh chrome announced the stable channel. Update for windows. Mac and lennox. We're now at eighty six point zero point four to forty dot one nine eight and i had commented last week that i was already a dot one nine whatever it was or one six three or something i. I was further along then. Data made any announcement of and i didn't know why maybe this was part of that So this one is already rolled out under security fixes and rewards in their announcement of this stable update. They noted their standard boilerplate that details. Would-be kept restricted until the majority of users would no longer be effected. They indicated that both of those new in the wild zero days were discovered and reported by anonymous unquote the first on the seventh. And the second on the ninth and this thing was released on the eleventh so the update was pushed out to our desktops very quickly after it was reported to google And the bounty rewards for both of those was was dollar sign. T be d so you know to be determined The first flaw was another of those quote inappropriate implementation in eight which is exactly the exact language that was used to describe. The previous week's zero day vulnerability the other flaw was a use after free claw in the site isolation component which of course we depend upon. Because we don't want cross site exploitability and you know. This is the model for the way we need to be doing. Security moving forward researchers spot problems either doing static research or by catching something that they see happening in the wild. They report them privately to the responsible party. Whomever that is that responsible party rewards them for their discovery and for keeping their report private and then quickly updates the affected software pushing it out to all affected parties or devices depending on what it is. I mean that's what we're seeing here. Problems are being found. I mean they're going to exist in something as as crazy complicated as a modern browser not dimension an operating system. There's gonna be problems. There seems to be no end of them. You know we'll be talking about last tuesday's hundred and twelve things that were fixed and remember those are those. Those didn't just appear in the last month. Those have been lurking in windows and all related applications for probably a long time. We know that some of them affect windows seven the end. Those are not getting fixed anymore. So you know what. That's two thousand eight. That's twelve years ago. So we have this problem One thing we know today with absolute certainty is that cyber war and cybercrime either ad hoc organized are very real things
ICYMI: Those superfast new Apple Macs
"It's jefferson graham talking tech. I wanted to fill you in on apple's latest announcement which is three new computers with the new. M one chip as always apple says the new computers will be faster and they'll have better battery performance. Want to hear more. Let me fill you in. So the macbook air the thirteen inch macbook pro. Not to be confused with the sixteen inch which doesn't get the new chip. And the mac mini all the new chip so from what i picked up from the presentation. It's really the mac mini. That will be the most radical because the mac mini has always been a slower computer Aimed at people who just didn't want to spend a lot of money on computers The new one is seven hundred dollars you do. Have you do have to add in a monitor on top of that but it sounds like a pretty nice little thing to have on your desk Apples calling the chip. The emma one. They end basically if you ever get bored when apple in their presentation just tells you over and over again. About how fast these things are you snooze during this presentation because they really went into hardcore geek. I look forward to the increased power. I've not had that much trouble with my macbook pro. It's pretty fast as it is. My main issue is noise. you can get really noisy. The fan Is kinda loud and they said that one of the new computers is not going to have a fan. So i'm excited about that. Beyond that apple said the new operating system which is called big sur will be out on thursday. I look forward to seeing that. But i would recommend that everybody wait to download it to make sure that any of the apps that you're using
What happened during the troubled Big Sur launch, and why
"Apple released mac. Os eleven big sur. On thursday. Anyway it tried to expecting the best macrumors ran a piece. Highlighting of the operating systems planned improvements including the aesthetic redesign. The ios inspired control center a notification center the changes to affari the updates messages and the list goes on. We could spend all day talking about those though. The bigger stories today is the people who spent all day trying to download and install the blessed update seeing that ran peace in the middle of the day. Thursday saying that the downloads for big sur. Were super slow and that people were encountering installation delays of hours or even days in opposed at one forty nine. Pm pacific seeing that said this seemed to be very slow with the update. Failing completely for some customers after saying had about seventeen hours remaining the big sur installation failed five or six times for one scene net reporter and now won't restart now. I pointed out the time on that because just ahead of yesterday's mac. Os ken live. I checked apple system status page. It said that. The mac os software update issue had started around ten am pacific and was resolved by one fifteen pm. That was apparently a bit optimistic at about three thirty pacific cult posted a piece under the headline apple thinks is frustrating delays in macos big sur downloads sometime later. The headline was amended with the words. Update maybe not because yeah not checking apple system status page overnight. Last night apple had updated. Its message saying users may not have been able to download muko software updates on mac computers. The timeframe listed ten am through five fifteen pm pacific. All's well that ends well yeah. I wish i can say for certain that it had in fact ended mac. Os ken listener. Eric sent me an e mail around seven pm. Pacific saying after a forty minute attempted download the update for his twenty eighteen macbook pro just decided to fail. Sad trombone says eric war and that's the one. Apparently the call went on to say thursday wasn't a banner day for several apple services and they were not kidding. Macrumors ran a piece at two in the afternoon. Saying apple is having trouble with a number of services at this time and along with problems that are preventing people from installing mac. Os big sur and slowing down third party apps apple card apple pay maps and message are experiencing issues third party apps. Yeah seem so yet. Another piece from macrumors told the long delays in launching apps or people being unable to open mac apps at all. The problem seems to have been tied to apple's developer. Id notary service as for. Apple's own services seems to have been seriously troublesome macrumors indicates that apple card and apple pay suffered a complete outage with users unable to complete apple pay transactions traffic info and navigation and rounding for maps were also unavailable that outage ran from noon pacific to one forty macrumors updated story at two thirty pacific saying that apple had resolved all of the outstanding issues. Is it possible that apple just trying to do too much in one day. In addition to the big sur release apple also released updates for some of its productivity and creativity applications one piece from apple insider says apple on thursday released updates for i work and garage band while another piece from the same site says apple updated final cut pro and logic pro. The first piece says the i work and garage band. Updates bring their design in line with the big sur aesthetic new icons and a refined design for pages numbers and keynote according to the report that plus the usual stabs and purves as for garage band. There seems to be quite a bit. That's new including customization of region colors and tracks eighteen hundred new apple loops over one hundred ninety new instrument patches and fifty vintage and modern drum kits all of that plus a bit of the big sur design language for everyone then there are tweaks for the computers coming soon. According to apple insider garage band has been tweaked to improve performance and efficiency on mac computers powered by apple silica for apple silicon that final cut pro and logic pro were updated as well and by the way. I'm not being lazy. I'm not saying the x at the end because apple's not lost. I suppose in the move from roman numeral ten to eleven
Apples flashy M1 chip raises the question: What happens to Intel?
"With me is resident big brain and expert on all things technical stavish shanklin. Welcome stephen i own so apple. Developing its own and one ship to power macs marks the start of a break up with intel which really intel processors have long powered macbooks for more than a decade a decade half. So how bad is this for intel. It's modestly bad so in the short run. It's not a big deal. They'll start to lose some sales because apple will start selling mac books with its own processors. But it's still selling a lot of macs with intel chips in apple. While very prominent company is a small smallish part of intel revenue. So kind of at first glance on paper. It's not that big a deal but reputation. It's a big problem. And what you say. The break-up just started while in the marketplace. When you're buying something just started but really. This breakup started years ago. When intel failed to improve its manufacturing to modernize its chips to make it fast. Make them faster so really this has been going on for quite a while this just sort of public manifestation of the break up so really this is emblematic of deeper problems at intel. That's segway because i wanted to ask if there was anything that intel could have done to avoid the scenario. Was this always in the cards. I don't think it was inevitable. I think that if intel had continued with tiktok approach that it had a few years ago where it improved the architecture of its chips one year than it improved the manufacturing the next year then group the architecture group of manufacturing going on okay for awhile did that knit. it kept its competitiveness. If it continued to do that apple might still be selling until basement acts but one of the big things that happened a few years ago was apple. Acquired a chip design company called pa semi that started designing its iphone processors. And it's been improving the performance in the abilities of those chips steadily for several years so even if until had been more capable with its manufacturing in stayed more competitive apple. No-doubt would've looked at its own in house chip expertise and abilities You to be on a pretty good run here and doing chips in house saves apple a lot of money analyst estimates. I've seen her probably about a hundred dollars to two hundred dollars per laptop compared to buy intel chips so there's a huge financial incentive for them to bring that in house but the other point is. There's this so-called cook doctrine named after. Tim cook which states that apple wants to control the most important fundamental parts of its technology. And there's a few things more important fundamental than a processor processor. The operating system like the app store and all kinds of control points for apple but the processor. It's really important. So bringing the m one chip into the max really gives apple a lot more control over its future so even if until had stayed more competitive it still seems quite possible that until would have lost this business got an you talked about apple being a small market small relatively small contributor to intel's revenue accounts for about seven and a half percent of the pc market as of according to see the last the last quarter results. But obviously this is a big perception issue for intel. I'm just curious what the impact is on the broader. Pc market of other peacemakers are gonna look at what apple is doing any other follow suit or at least consider these kinds of mobile processors. That intel doesn't make Here's the funny thing in a lot of ways the intel base pc makers down hp lenovo. Those folks actually already are ahead of apple. They've already been offering pc's with arm based processors built by qualcomm. But here's the deal. Those chips are not particularly fast. In fact they're pretty lacklustre so those are kind of which not a high priority model for most of those guys until still rules rules the roost. What apple is showing here is that you can get a much more reasonable balance of performance and battery life so the way i see it is apple's move could potentially embolden qualcomm it could embolden. Pc makers microsoft has a microsoft likes these arm based pc's could help push the future in that direction. They don't really have the processing horsepower to do that yet. Now maybe in a year or two or three qualcomm will start offering more powerful parts or somebody else will start doing. Maybe even another intel competitor like amd could potentially get excited about this. It's not clear to me but there. This could embolden the other parts of the pc world to move this direction. But they really don't have the technology pieces in place right now for that to happen anytime soon. So you talked about in your story. The various problems until faces. And you actually make the point that apple breaking up with intel or going through. This break-up isn't even the biggest problem facing intel. What what is what is the thing that keeps them up at night manufacturing problems so for years until has failed to modernize its chip manufacturing and this was a competitive edge that intel had for decades over other chipmakers. It's one of the reasons that it is one of the three remaining big companies that manufactures chips along with samsung in south korea and tsmc in taiwan so intel this this is the company that was co founder coined the term. Moore's law or it's named after him. Gordon moore they were. This was a core. Part of their reputation was being out on the cutting edge of processor manufacturing and they really dropped the ball starting about five years ago. And it's been excruciatingly painful for them internally and for their reputation to watch. Tsmc and samsung get ahead of them in manufacturing in. That isn't just a reputation issue. It's a problem because chip progress. Means you shrink the size of the electronic components the transistors on a processor. And that means you can squeeze more processor. Excuse me squeeze more transistors onto a processor economically which means you can make a chip. Do more stuff can have more cash memory. You can accelerate a accelerated graphics. You can just do all kinds of more stuff. That's what apple has been doing with. Its iphone processors. Every year it's been reducing new more capable processor indulge stock with its old processors. And so that's been really crippling for them. In moving to the new manufacturing processes they continued to stumble and most recently in their most recent earnings their new server chips. That was supposed to arrive. This year out turns out that's going to arrive next year so there continue to be problems and if if i could get that manufacturing back on track it would be in a much better position everything else would go more smoothly but having that foundational technology problem it's really crippling them.
Those superfast new Apple Macs
"It's jefferson graham talking tech. I wanted to fill you in on apple's latest announcement which is three new computers with the new. M one chip as always apple says the new computers will be faster and they'll have better battery performance. Want to hear more. Let me fill you in. So the macbook air the thirteen inch macbook pro. Not to be confused with the sixteen inch which doesn't get the new chip. And the mac mini all the new chip so from what i picked up from the presentation. It's really the mac mini. That will be the most radical because the mac mini has always been a slower computer Aimed at people who just didn't want to spend a lot of money on computers The new one is seven hundred dollars you do. Have you do have to add in a monitor on top of that but it sounds like a pretty nice little thing to have on your desk Apples calling the chip. The emma one. They end basically if you ever get bored when apple in their presentation just tells you over and over again. About how fast these things are you snooze during this presentation because they really went into hardcore geek. I look forward to the increased power. I've not had that much trouble with my macbook pro. It's pretty fast as it is. My main issue is noise. you can get really noisy. The fan Is kinda loud and they said that one of the new computers is not going to have a fan. So i'm excited about that. Beyond that apple said the new operating system which is called big sur will be out on thursday. I look forward to seeing that. But i would recommend that everybody wait to download it to make sure that any of the apps that you're
Let's Encrypt's Cross-Signed Root Expires Next Year
"Something interesting has happened with. Let's encrypt on friday. They blog d- standing on our own two feet and the issue. That's come up is so interesting on fundamental that i decided to share what they've said With some inline editorializing of course About that you know the situation. They find themselves in so so they wrote what a new certificate authority comes on. the scene. Which i'll note does not happen very often. They said it faces a conundrum. In order to be useful to people it needs its roots certificate to be trusted by a wide variety of operating systems and browsers however it can take years for the oh s.'s and browsers to accept the new root certificate and even longer for people to upgrade their devices to the newer versions that include that change the common solution. A new ca will often ask an existing trusted certificate authority for a cross signature to quickly get it into being trusted by lots of devices. You know we talked about this in the beginning of of let's encrypt And we looked at their the certificate that they were producing was cross. Signed by ident- trust. I think it was anyway. So they said five years ago when let's encrypt launched. That's exactly what we did. We got a cross saito. Yeah the across signature from identity. Just their dst route x three have been around for long time and all the major software platforms trusted. It already windows. Fire fox mac. Os android irs and a variety of distributions. That cross signature allowed us. They wrote to start issuing certificates away and have them be used by a lot of people. Without ident- trust let's encrypt may have never happened. And we are grateful to them for their partnership. Meanwhile we issued our own root certificate. I s r g route x one and applied for it to be trusted by the major software platforms now. Those software platforms have trusted our root certificate. Meaning the let's encrypt root certificate for years and the s. t. route x three routes or ticket that we relied on to get us off. The ground is going to expire on september. First twenty twenty one. they said. Fortunately we're ready to stand on our own and rely solely on our own root certificate. However they wrote this does introduce some compatibility woes some software that has not been updated since two thousand and sixteen. They said approximately when our route was accepted to many root programs still doesn't trust our root certificate. Is rg route. X one most notably this includes versions of android prior to seven point. One point one that means those older versions of android will no longer trusts. Certificates issued by. Let's encrypt
A new 0-day in Win7 through Win10
"As i said we have a new zero day and it's a complicated by the fact that it is existed at least since windows ten which as we know. Microsoft has at least since windows seven. Oh i'm sorry. Yeah since windows seven. Wow so last week. We talked at some length about the bug. Google found in the free type library which had been in use since june nineteenth. Two thousand fifteen or more than five years. What we knew then was that this flaw which was patched by that update to chrome was a zero day because it was being actively exploited. They you know. They fixed it in from one when they were notified. They fixed it within twenty four hours which was impressive response and they notified the free type people who also fixed it within twenty four hours also impressive. What we did not learn until the end of last week was that there was a previously secret. Second part to this zero day. The free type law was what was being exploited through chrome to open the door to the attacker but as is often the case thanks to modern operating system design the damage that can be done by an abberant application or exploit of an application running under the non root user account is deliberately minimal in modern operating systems. All of today's web browsers are careful to run under the users. Deliberately limited account privileges. This is why successful. Attacks and attackers often need to chain two or more exploits together to accomplish their nefarious ends. If the free type library happened to run in the kernel then a single exploit in it might have been sufficient but free type was also properly designed to run in user space so exploiting the free type flaw opened the door but the attacker then needed to elevate their privilege on the system to route or kernel level in order to get anything useful like from the attackers standpoint. Done the week before all of this. Google had seen the whole picture or presumably. The person who informed them had they saw this second phase. Which was leveraging a previously completely unknown and quite potent zero day flaw in windows to achieve privilege elevation. This was allowing the attackers. Then you know to do some real damage the privilege elevation that they discovered by watching it in action existed or actually i should say exists. Because it's still does today within the windows kernel based thus we have a problem there cryptographic services. Api and because that colonel based module the cryptographic services module exports and api. that's callable from user land. The bad guys can arrange to run their malicious code with full system permissions google's project zero folks immediately reached out to microsoft to inform them of what they had found and also to explain that since this was an act of vulnerability being exploited in the wild project zero normal patient ninety day disclosure window would be reduced as they even did for themselves to just one week actually. They only needed a day. And that's why the industry subsequently learned of this only late last week. That was seven days after. Actually eight after google told microsoft so the project zero the google's project zero day disclosure starts off with saying note. We have evidence that the following bug is being used in the wild therefore this bug is subject to a seven day disclosure deadline. And we've seen these in the past when we've talked about this and look did these in the period before the disclosure deadline all there is is just like a placeholder page no juicy details available because you know they're holding that embargoed until the problem can bet can't got fixed. They begin their right up by explaining the windows kernel. Crypt cryptography driver. C. n. g. dot says exposes a backslash device backslash c. n. g. device to user mode programs so in other words there's a. There's a divide the so that the cryptography driver looks like a device which exposes services through a device driver interface to programs running on top of the operating system and it supports a variety of a windows calls i. Ctl's i oh control calls. They said with non trivial impetus Input structures it constitutes a locally accessible attack surface that can be exploited for privilege escalation and they said such as sandbox escape. So of course they're they're they're viewing it from the stats from the standpoint of a sandbox escape because they're because the way this would have gotten in was through the browser which at and we know that running in the browser is deliberately sandbox so that it if it does something wrong it doesn't have access to much but by taking advantage of this. That code is able to escape from google's own chrome sandbox so microsoft for their part doesn't see this as such an emergency. Google has already closed and locked the front door. Through which attackers were able to reach the crypto. Api vulnerability and november's patch tuesday being next tuesday a week from this podcasts. Date of the third which you'll be the november tenth expects to have this fixed
Speed Up Your Computer With This Simple Upgrade
"Chances are if you've had a computer for a while it came was a mechanical hard disk drive. Well you can replace that hard disk drive with a solid state drive or ssd if you want. Copy everything over you. Want to use a program like clone zealot. Copy your operating system and other software and files over otherwise you will need to do a reinstallation to the sst backup any fouls you want to keep from your hard drive. Newer computers have an even better option. There's nonvolatile memory express or in via me. This is often nand. Flash memory like you'd find the necessity and that's faster also many computer support dot to ssd's you'll want to check your computer documentation or motherboard documentation to see what your supports pretty much all computers. The bid to thousands though will support the standard seda solid state drives.
TicWatch Pro 3 GPS Specifications And Features
"Bought stuff from them before as well. Now, speaking to buying stuff. Justin a couple ago on the show was involved in a kickstarter program for the tick watch and you know it was kind of interesting to hear how you were. You were buying into this this technology and when they finally got to production, you get one and you got one we're pretty happy with it. Yeah. Yeah. So the tick watches a, it's a smart watch. It's it's it's GonNa take it was designed to really take on the Apple Watch. I think actually at the time they did it I don't think he even the Apple Watch. No, it was. It was out there. But yeah. So the first take watch came out it was okay. It was it was it did what it did, but it was slow. It was clunky was big. Then they came out with the tick watch to came out tick watch pro and the tick watch pro to, and so they've been successful as a company. They're still releasing new products and they're not doing kickstarter anymore they're full-fledged company now. They just recently announced the new tick watch pro three. GPS. When I heard about this, this would be my third watch that I purchased from them because I did purchase the tick watch to again it was a little bit clunky. But I did decide to go ahead and purchase the tick watch pro three GPS model. This one by far is going to be the best watch they've ever released because I've. I've already read the reviews on it from people that have gotten advanced models. This is the first watch on the market regardless of who makes it it's the first smartwatch on the market to use the new qualcomm snapdragon wear forty, one, hundred processor. This thing is lightning fast. It also has a seventy two hour active battery or a two week. To two week standby battery on the LCD screen. So you've got a great extended battery because mine right now, I can barely get twenty four hours out of it and I've got to charge it. You also have a lot more. Health and fitness tracking features. They do also come with some things like take calm or. I should say so if you're feeling stressed, you just hit the tick Zenit helps you calm down. Eve also. got like tick, tick a tick oxygen or something like that. Basically, it tells you your oxygen level fitness tracking things like that does run where a West however, they've taken their the WAIROA estimated their own. You can still run where OS APPS on it. So if I want to get Google messages but I want to get out look if I want to other things like that I can put that on my watch, but I also can use the tick watch features. And also it is faster like I said, and it's also sleeker. It's smaller it's thinner and it's more lightweight. So this goes for two ninety nine. And I did get it with a discount if you go to mob Voi-, Dot Com M., O. B.. Dot Com voi- dot Com. That's the maker of the tick watch. You can go there. You can get it if you're new user like if you never bought a Dick locher before fifteen percent off and also if you use the add onto chrome called honey now we've talked about honey in the past right honey is a an add on that tries all these extra coupon codes. If you use honey, you can also get an extra fifteen dollars off. So out the DOOR A. To nine thousand, nine watch after shipping and everything came to to fifty nine for me. That's not bad. Now, what if you're an apple user? Can you still tie this into your operating system and no actually you can't it's either going to be. You have to have an apple watch with an apple product you're going to have to have an android phone with watch I mean just one of the other, just the same as you can't have an apple watch paired with an android. But. I want to mention just a couple of numbers real quick hundred and fifty percent GP increase since the last model eighty-five CPU, and memory eighty-five percent CPU and memory increase and a twenty five percent power save over the previous model. So if you're into smart watches and you don't necessarily want to get the Samsung Galaxy, watch which I think is going for three ninety nine. Checkout Tick Watch T. I see watch and you can get a mob Voi- dot Com I don't think I'm pronouncing that right but it's.
Google is facing the biggest antitrust case in a generation
"The Justice Department announced that they filed an antitrust lawsuit against Google, accusing them of monopolizing the online search and search advertising markets. It's no secret that Google is a major player in these areas. The Justice Department is alleging that about 80% of American search queries go through Google. Also, it's chrome browser controls about 70% of the global online browser market. 85% of smartphones globally run its Android operating system. This is just a first step in what could be a lengthy and messy court battle for moron with the DOJ is alleging, and what it could mean for consumers will speak to Kyle Daily Technology editor at Axios, this pretty indisputable stuff, right? I mean, when you think of search you think of Google. I mean, there is myself being there's some other alternatives, but you know they're pretty. Finley used. The DOJ points out in the suit that Google controls about 88% of what it called General search, which is, you know In the open Web, searching Google maps searching for general information That's not like, Hey, I'm on Amazon and I want to search this closed platform specific product. And the challenge with bringing antitrust cases against the big tech companies. Is that a lot of them like Google, now free to use there isn't really clear, clean, observable consumer harm where it's like prices went up. Because of your monopoly. That's bad. We're gonna crack down on you. You know there are no prices for the consumer, so they have to sort of do two things here. One is define a market that's being monopolized which can be kind of challenging itself. So you know what you first have to do is establish. Okay, Here's something where Google Clearly has the monopoly and that is, as you say, online search and then be causing harm. So what DOJ is saying the harm is is really to competition, or sort of would be competition that Google has used its position and that it uses agreements that it makes With Apple with wireless carriers with Samsung and other companies that actually makes phones at one android toe lock it in as the default search engine on your smarts on are sort of core your carrier around your Web browser, and then it uses that to achieve this market dominance and shore up its market dominance, And then that sort of this self fueling thing, where the more ubiquitous Google is, the better it's product become. Is because it can feed the engine with more data, and it just sort of breaks away from the competition is definitely there. You know, you think of things like Kleenex or Xerox. You know those air the brand names or whatever the things that they kind of represent, now, you don't Here. Somebody said, Hey, go being that people say go Google that I mean, it's a product that we know and everybody uses all the time. What is Google say in response to all of this Because I was just reading some of it. You know, they said, Well, our product is just so good that That's why people like to use it and they have the other options and they just don't Yeah. I mean, that's why this is such an interesting case. And that's why, you know, we kind of expected continue seeing antitrust cases possibly brought against some of these big tech companies, particularly Facebook, but also Amazon, possibly Apple that there's a high likelihood that regardless of which party is in power We're going to keep seeing this. So they say exactly what you said. In response. They say they put in use the word monopoly, but they sort of copped to monopolize the market. But they say that's just because we're that good. You know, the other options are out there. You are free as a consumer to choose them. You're free to change the default on your phones so that its searching being more Google or doctor go. You do the same thing on your browser. People stick with us. This is Google talking because We just have the best search engine and we're not deliberately taking any action to prevent competition. And they say he's the same arrangements that they make with Apple to be the default in safari. They say. You know, the other guys are totally free to do that. And if they had a better product, and maybe they would have more more. These agreements like we have
Justice Department Files Antitrust Suit Against Google
"We've been waiting for it and yesterday it dropped. We're talking, of course about the Justice Department's antitrust lawsuit against Google, the DOJ is alleging that Google is engaging an anticompetitive behaviour to preserve its monopoly in search and search advertising. Here's associate. Deputy Attorney General Ryan. Chores he's overseeing the tech investigations at the OJ. Google unlawfully maintain these monopolies through a web of exclusionary and interlocking agreements that shutout competitors. For example, do collectively pays mobile phone manufacturers. Carriers and web browsers, billions of dollars each year from its monopoly search advertising revenues to be the preset default search engine. This is by far the most effective way for a search engine to gain users. It's most people simply use this to fall chores also pointed to the fact that Google prohibits other search applications from being preloaded on phones companies android operating system. We have started legal affairs reporter Brent. Kendall to break down your statement. Here's what he said what he's basically saying. Here is look in this country there's nothing wrong with having a monopoly. If you do things better than everybody else your products are better and people flock to you. That is all well and good. But once you're there and you have a powerful position, what you can do is then take any competitive steps to prevent anybody else from potentially challenging you and so that's what they're arguing here and they say these billions of dollars in payments to preserve Google default search on on. Variety of devices and platforms. Shuts the door to anybody else ever getting into this space and providing any sort of competition to Google, and so that's that's the basis of of what they're arguing here. The Google it's not illegal to have a monopoly but what they're doing is is taking illegal steps to maintain it a spokesperson for Google said the DOJ's lawsuit was quote deeply flawed and that consumers use Google because they choose to not because they can't find alternatives. The suit represents the most aggressive antitrust case in about twenty years, but it could still take years of legal back and forth before there's an outcome. Brennan says it could shake up silicon valley either way we could end up with is pretty remarkable circumstance because we'll have this google sued and very well may be that the FTC as we reported recently could sue facebook by the end of the year, and so you would have these two marquee once in a generation cases at the same time in which the federal government was was suing you know two of our biggest and most. Important in leading tech companies, and so that could have all sorts of ramifications. I. Mean and it could it could filter intersect with other parts of this debate. I mean, maybe facebook and Google when these cases, but it could also be the case if they win, you have people in Congress, they look the fact that the government couldn't win these cases shows that the law work and we need to step in and do different things here.
Google Up Against Laws That Thwarted Microsoft
"Google is a massive company just about all of us cross paths with some Google products in the course of almost every Internet experience, But is Google a monopoly? Or is it just really good at what it does? Justice Department's believes the former today suing Google over allegations that its search and advertising empire violates the federal antitrust laws. Launching what is likely to be a lengthy, bruising legal fight. Garafalo is director of state and local policy at the American Economic Liberties Project. He's author of Close to Home, How The Power of Facebook and Google affects Local Communities, Pat Thanks for taking a moment to join us on connects in death today, First of all the government they will argue that Google has paid out literally billions of dollars to become the default search application. Her search engine smartphones and a whole bunch of other devices. What's your take? I think the case is pretty compelling. When you go through it. You can see exactly how Google built and now maintains its dominance and search. It's not because it provides a super awesome, fantastic search product. It's because it uses its power to be the default on all the devices we use every day and also to have other products be connected to all the operating systems that we use on our Bones, other devices, laptop computers, So yeah, I think it's a pretty compelling complaint. Walk me through that a little bit because I still have the choice. I mean, I can pre load or not pre load. I can choose some other browser to be my home page. If I like. Or I can download something else. I mean, I have free choice. But maybe I default to Google because I like Google. So if that's their counter argument What's what's the back fire to that? The fact is that most people simply don't do that and a lot of the time they don't even know what they're missing. If Google is your default search, you may not know that it actively degrades its search product in order to promote its own other products. To say you're searching for a Thai restaurant near me and Google sends you to Google's business listings with reviews and to Google maps to find your way there. You may not necessarily know because Google pushes them so far down the search results that they're better products out there with better reviews better maps better services, but because we're defaulting to Google so often, and we just run with what Google shows us. We don't know that there's better stuff out there. Pat is this in any way comparable to how the government went after Bill Gates and Microsoft so many years ago. A little bit in the sense that there is that allegation of them sort of tying up referencing products together on it's important to know that this is just one salvo in what looks to be a pretty government wide bipartisan effort to reign and not just Google, but other big tech companies. There are a couple of other Investigations into Google coming from state attorneys General s. We expect a couple of other cases to actually be filed in the coming weeks and months. This is really just one part of a much, much bigger effort that involves Congress involved the administration and it's obviously going to be fought in the courts for a long time. Is this more waited on the search side or them saying to the manufacturers? You know, we've got this deal and we paid into it. And now you gotta have chrome on the phone to the laptop. You gotta have Google play. You know, Google maps needs to be on there when these things roll outs, and there's no way around it. It's both. Yeah, The allegation gets into the giant payments that Google makes toe Apple to be the default search on Apple's products and also the tying of all those various products to Google's own Android operating system. So it's both of those factors. If I have somebody like being which is another very popular search engine. How might a decision on this whether it goes one way or the other affected company like being I imagine it would be helpful. But when we talk about another popular search engine that there really is no other popular search engine when it comes to search Google in some 88% of the market on mobile searches, it's more like 95%. So they're really on. Lee is one player in this market, You know. Historically, monopolies have been monopoly cases had been launched against companies that had, you know 2030 50% of the market when you're talking 95%. It's a pretty clear case that there's just one dominant player. I guess it just come back to the O. Is that they're false. I mean, there were others. I remember. You know you could search on Netscape or yet being and it's backed by Microsoft, right so they can have money. They can throw it around. Or ask Jeeves used to be a thing of mine survived. They didn't survive. I mean, Maybe duck duck go once the market share, but they're tiny so they can't compete because they're tiny, But Google got here for being really good. See, I don't think they got there by being really good. They got there by paying off folks to be the default. And that's actually part of the problems that duck duck go is tiny, and there is simply no way for it to get in front of people to even compete because of all these anti competitive practices. Google is engaged in because Google just manages to set itself through its power through its money as the default search in front of everybody. The ads the duct ago would have to buy right to get into the mental space. I mean that the payments it would have to make Teo say an apple. T. B ah, included in their default options like there's just simply no way Doctor Cho conduce that that graph
"operating system" Discussed on Akimbo: A Podcast from Seth Godin
"Is that the operating rating system of a screen saver platform was interacting with the operating system of the rule of law. The magic of the rule of law. Aw as an operating system is that it doesn't matter who's in charge it doesn't matter who is dominant in the moment the rules are the rules rules and so the operating system of the law exists so that we can boot ourselves out of whatever bug infested vested place we are stuck in Hankins. Start over again. The rule of law is an operating system. That's been around for almost a thousand years and you don't have to like the outcomes but the process itself the system it's something we can operate with. And then the next part the next part is can we hack the operating system. There's a guy who does tours of the Metropolitan Museum of art. He's not an official Dosen of the museum. But you can find him online. And he'll give you a tour his hacking the operating system of that building because that building thing is more permeable than the museum expected and this permeability is essential because what we know when we build an operating system system. Is that over. The long run permeability tends to win out links came from nowhere in now. How powers you swaths of the Internet and computing around the world? wordpress is an open source piece of software which means people can plug into. What wordpress does without asking anyone's permission? When apple was coming up Microsoft had had hegemony they got to decide who would carry the operating system? They got to decide how the operating system would work and what apple did was relying relying on the good taste of its leadership. They created a closed operating system. That was so beautiful. Wonderful Susan Care. An artist was one of the fourteen people on the original MAC team. Can you imagine out of the original team. One of them was an artist. List that good taste. Even though the system was closed was sufficient to spread an idea to get people to adopt the system but systems don't last forever because they are impacted by other systems. One after another pushing forward so here. We are in this moment of time right on the precipice between open resilient systems and closed ones ones. That are easily disrupted. Did the voting system in the United States is closed operating system. It is not supposed to be hackel. Which of course means that it will? It'll be hacked. It is fragile because it has no resilience the resilience that comes from being open and flexible what we need to do. As people whose times being taken whose trust is being abused who look for opportunities but can't always find them is take a hard look look at the invisible pricing systems all around us. Because it's not always tim. Cook that launches a new S at some fancy conference prince. It could very well be that the operating systems of our future our invisibly creeping up around us. And if we're not seeing them we're not defining them for pushing them to be better than they're not gonna be for us or by US they're going to be done to us until we have no choice but delivered them. Thanks for listening. We'll be back in a second with an answer to a question from last time but first here's a message from from our sponsor if you want to learn to ride a bicycle don't watch a video. Don't read a book. Hey it's F. and I'm here. Talk about the Akimbo workshops. These are interactive real time online workshops that work and were devoting twenty twenty two finding one that matches where you need to go if you're ready to level up I hope you'll check out. AKIMBO DOT COM to find out about our proven effective workshops as always I love hearing from you. If you've got a question I hope you'll contribute it. Visit Akimbo dot link. That's AKA I. I M B O Dot L. I. N. K.. And press the appropriate button. Here's one from Ali according to my software it's the one thousand th question that was submitted to Akimbo via Akimbo dot link. Hey says I'm Ali and we love you here in Egypt to. She can come sometimes. Well Oh thanks for the last episode. It's perfect Mike. Question is what is the effect of showing your work in marked are sometimes hiding. Your work will give more value than showing it or is it just just another camp. I mean we have. KFC for example and their biggest marketing advantages for years have been that they had the secret recipe. The only twenty five person knows about well you you know the story and I also believe in trouble. Green said that sometimes haydn will work process and showing the final result will give you more more value. I know pigs were mostly scientific but does that also apply to art as well I remember. He talked about something similar in the fantasy episodes. But I think I I need to know more. Thanks thanks for this. It gives me a chance to clarify what I was trying to get at by. Show your work. I'm talking about showing your work so that we can make it better when we are doing art when we are seeking the spiritual to get under someone's skin and when we are dealing with the magic that is so much of what is in marketing. Well no then. We shouldn't show our work that concealing how we came about to do the thing we did. It is in fact a magic trick and what magicians no is that the more someone wants you to tell them how they did the trick the less you should tell them because as soon as someone knows how you did the trick there are no longer interested no longer interested in the trick. No longer interested in you no longer interested in exploring how it felt to be mystified now. Aside About Kentucky Fried Chicken there aren't eleven herbs Herbs and spices and Kentucky Fried Chicken. That's part of the secret. Some people think there's only two but back to the matter at hand. Traditionally brand marketing has been about hiding your work. No numbers no measurement a lot of Mumbo jumbo about what's working and what's not because the people who do brand marketing who run unmeasured. TV Ads. They don't want to know because if they knew then they'd have to admit that something they did didn't didn't work and so they often resist examination. What the Internet has brought along is direct? Marketing measured actionable interaction. And in that world. Not only do you need to show your work to your peers but Google is busy showing your work to everyone because you can see how much other people are paying for the ads for the keywords. That you are buying you can see what it costs to buy a certain amount of attention on facebook. Those numbers have forced lots of marketers to become direct marketers. Because if you don't you're going to lose your shirt it's also interesting to note that if you take too short of you when it comes to sharing your numbers and showing your work doc. You're going to end up optimizing for the wrong thing. And that's how we've ended up with so much callous short term thoughtless kind of marketing. Because if all you're measuring is how many clicks did I get in the last five minutes. Well then you're going to do things that are hustles. Come on flashing ready. Let's go so instead of that long term build that allowed brand marketers to build what they've built for all of these years so the magic here is his figuring out which work to show and how to be really clear with the people that we trust about how we're doing and how we can do it better her. I hope that helps. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time. I just don't think it's possible or probable in today's world to distinguish yourself as an educational institution or as a success seeker at the level of of information gathering or information distribution. I mean this is the information age and you can get a great book. Great Essay a great idea anywhere. You know none of us can do that better than the Internet right There is no great thought leader. Who can how think the Internet like we have data what all NBA gets right? Is it puts you in a context where you're part of a community that that says. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's good. You got access to ideas. You've got access to information that's awesome but when you're gonNA show up when you gonNA face that blank page when when you gonNA face the possibilities within you when you got to face those fears I'm not GonNa let you gotTa show up and that's the hardest part and and it sounds simple. It sounds very commonsensical. But it's the number one reason why we don't write that book it's the number one reason y we don't ask that question. It's not because we don't know where we don't have any information. We don't have an environment and we don't have a support network at work that makes it feel like showing up as possible for me not just possible for the success stories. I see out there but I consider the MBA more than three thousand alumni in seventy four countries around the world find out more at all N._B._A. dot com..
"operating system" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"Communications at cetera. Go build what you need to do. Do it fast. But we're not gonna do anything that limits. What what you can create? Yeah. I think that's a paradigm teams that where we're seeing the same bed. And that's what's driving soccer systems is the need for people to just innovate bluetooth. Oh energy in Kickstarter right now. You see it? Tons of interesting projects we see them come across our desk that armory when they use the offer. They tell us about it. Wow. That's cool. I didn't know you could do. Noon, we saw on just recently, a kind of little scale like a little flat board, you put inside your fridge, and you put your different produce and things that you normally have different places in your fidget tells you when you're out of something. Okay. You're running low in the milk department. It usually have this much time to go to the store. Pretty neat. Like, just a really simple as you know. I had this problem. I'm gonna go solve it type of you kick a type of of project. No, I chuckle at that. Because. Yeah. I just think back I guess it was almost a year ago today when the fridges among other consumer devices were actually set up as a button at the send to send out spam. But inside just chuckle on that it had to happen. But I think your point isn't isn't important one from a business point of view think about what you're deploying generalize. What you're deploying not to just solve the problem that you are planning the solve because specifically there may be other problems that you're saying that your platform will call it a platform can solve and if you're using some something like a like an ecosystem, that's hopefully using standardization which means that small companies and startups can actually innovate and that fifty percent number. That's the Suming. Of course, you know, that this friction that I spoke about earlier is kind of limited in there are some standards because you're not gonna have small startups taking bets on, you know. Taking taking flyers but the business lesson here is when you're when you're deploying you may be doing home automation, and maybe it's security, but maybe think a little bit be little bit more. Forethought ding in the sense of the hardware, the choose specifically the software you choose that, you can perhaps offer different products in the future that you didn't even think about or open up your system for other people to develop on it. Yeah. Network effect right now, you have a whole ecosystem without silos of other companies making products you could bundle. There you could sell your product into their offerings in their region. You can find new service providers operators to go and Sal your product in their markets all through business relationships rather than through a lot of engineering, and that's really exciting. We're gonna see that. It's it's starting a little bit. Now, we see some ecosystems of these different vendors working together by think in next few years, you'll start seeing more and more of that. Alleluia brother. I'm all over it. I appreciate it. Tell our listeners where they can find out more about you for your about your company what some data points that they can put in the show notes. So I think that the best place right now to look for information is at n bed dot org for what we're working on all the free software. Ecosystem was talking about. So NB dot org. All right. We'll put that in the show notes with that. I will say thank you. It was very important informative. And and yeah, I'm hoping I'm hoping like you are that the software ecosystem does take hold this year two thousand fifteen hundred here. I folks Zach predicted it, and and we'll talk to you soon. So thanks for being on the show face first. Okay. Bit of a deep dive with Zach Shelby of arm.
"operating system" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"And so that'll be enough to run your entire embedded product. And is that what you're saying? Absolutely. We're seeing you know, do ICES easily with tens of kilobytes of ram hundreds of kilobytes of flash for very low costs being integrated with sensor socks kinda it's been happening already for a couple of years now as a trend of integration. So for the sensors themselves in the case of say measuring process within within retrofitting while say, an existing process than from a software point of view, again, the recommendation is look at look at these at these software ecosystems, and that pretty much covers it then is that right? I mean because because that's going to take care of the, you know, the operating system with Israel time or not that's gonna take care of the of the communication stack. Hopefully with the standards that we've all been talking about it of tennis security. Yep. And you still have to do a lot of work. Right. But then you'll be able to focus your work, for example. You may have a very specialized censor, right? That's the special thing you do you might write driver for that sensor. And then, you know, you might contribute that driver back to the software system. So the existing grows sweat a lot of the people involved do is their job might also be selling that sensor separate, and then you focus on the actual functionality of the device, then you can kind of shift your effort around. Now, the other big Trenet wanna point out is that I love this, quote is that after one of the analysts that we work with is that no by two thousand eighteen over fifty percent of the applications in IT will be from startups. And not just any start ups right startups that are only being founded now so that don't even exist as of last year, half half. That's how innovative IOT will be right. That sounds a lot like the early web to be right. When web started taking off huge number of startups, totally innovating how we run businesses. How we run, you know, social networks, right? How we saw basic problems of government that didn't exist before they were founded to go salvos problems. We're gonna see a different a similar trend in innovation. Not. And I think that's why it's really important that when we build technology so technologists is from from from from tech companies media building platforms renovation, not here's the vertical solution for. For. Doing whole automation. And you must use it this way on that's it more. Here's the tool kit of technologies, we've we've figured out the basic stuff you need to go in communicate onto web.
"operating system" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"To work. Now. These cloud providers, right? Maybe you wanna host your -plication somewhere. So you wanna make sure the soccer system, you're working with actually has those players involves you can easily go work with them. So software ecosystems are these now packaged as products. Are there more than is more than one that shoes? From because I I mean, I liked the evolution. I mean as opposed to the think about it at a protocol level at an OS level, you know, and then different protocol. I will usually after the gateway whatever. Now, you're saying. No, no, you you think about it as a software ecosystem, great that makes them makes sense to me logical sense. Now again, from a business perspective are their choices out there right now that we can actually make or I mean, what's the variety? Just starting to see Lucien of this in bed. Right. We have we've had it in mobile right for a long time. Great example. Android is is this operate mobile. Absolutely. So as I alas actually being cloud. We have this. We had it for a long time different pockets of technology that were great together software. You can go get tickets for free open source. Just starting to see it on one of the early ones in bed. It was an art Ardito are doing a great example of offering go. Get the tool kit you go use it you can prototype. Your stuff really quickly on you know, at armor, big fans of a guard way. That's wore aimed at maker kind of prototyping phase of evolution of a product. Now, what we're gonna see this year is the start of soccer ecosystems for actual products, which used to be Otake a piece of software here, and that's really what we're focused on with the arm embed project is actually doing that. And that's what we're going to be bringing out this year is actual complete Sacre system. So not only off wear for free. But also all the partners so part making modules that boards gateways operators who actually host services for for those on back. In software providers that you know, make sure things are compatible. So that whole that whole network of of different companies. No, I dig it and makes a lot of sense, but I wanna have more than one choice. So what are you know? Is it just that embed is coming up? I are there others out there. You know, what what's the was the landscape look like so right now, and that is is one of the bigger bigger efforts going on on. We've had some software systems from from individuals silicon vendors for quite a while. So different silk owners tend to of create their own software will get for quite a while. And you can do sure those. You will see things that are programming language specific. So you have things like job any for example. Let's that's a you know, what what oracle does making sure that Java runs on on devices. So as becomes an ecosystem because ecosystem kind because it's run language now on the is not so clear, though. Right. So if you look at Java fanny we actually use and better Wes to run Java Hemi. Right. Because you need you need a native operating system under some sure job interpreted language, so they actually worked together. Right. You may choose how you what language you write your your programs? So that there won't always be that. It's once Opry because versus another may be that one sits on top of another for example. So looking at it again from a business perspective your recommendation is. Okay. You know, start looking at it more at a macro level and look for if possible software ecosystem that you can buy into that's going to support the different use cases that you have the different hardware configurations that you have them. What other advice can you give again looking at the software for the software decisions that have to be made. Are there any other big ones? So I think another another big thing is that I'm. The the changes see now that we don't have to invest as much in, you know, pieces of supporting software your museum lot more effort put into application so the application that goes and runs on the device..
"operating system" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"Embedded devices are becoming sexy. It never used to be like that. Right. The thermostat, right. Sexy. Now, they are. Thanks to nest. Right. I think if Eli more of that right allot of energy will go to design, and then the energy won't go into piecing together. You're your are your crypto libraries for from the software that will just become part of the offering neutrals. But what timeframe we talking about sack? I mean because we've been this this year has happened. Okay here. Yeah. It's it's gonna be really exciting that that's what that's what gets me out of bed in the morning is that this year's going to be super exciting that we can actually get that kind of awkward of people. So where software ecosystems that's what I wanna talk about. So software ecosystems now these are directly related choosing yourself ecosystem of these directly related to whether you're in the all seen camp the thread Cam whenever camp or how they delineated and what are the choices? That are available then. Yeah. No. That doesn't have to do a standards. Luckily, that would get really messy if it did it's not about the standards standards are the the the whole set of things that you need you need to have a softer. He lives right needing to happen. Implementations of standards. So whether they're you know threat or wifi or bluetooth, oh energy or six Lapan in general all those need to be supported by software, sits right? It's got to be part of this opera toolkit. Yom just like those things are supported Lena cts right out of the box. Got Ethan at a wifi support, you know, -til S security, for example. That's not something that can be an add on right? It's gotta be part of your operating system. Part of your software all the standards, we talked about need to be part of the offer us. So when it's about software system, it's really about finding on an easily available software where you have in ecosystem around it. You've got enough people that you work within your value chain. Right. Because now it's not just about you as a company, you probably have to work with other suppliers module makers gateway manufacturers give it platforms you need to work with service providers..
"operating system" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"So that we can talk intelligently budget intelligently and make the right strategic decisions when it comes to the software on I guess what we're talking we've been talking. But in particular for this episode of one type of the software on that. Censor what what are the considerations? What are the factors here? Why think it was a couple of things? First of all, you can't separate the hardware from the software to think of them a little bit more Listrik -ly. So I I think it's really important to choose hardware platforms which have a really long life cycle because not only going to be putting device out on the field for a long time. You're also gonna be volving the product, right? You might you might open new versions of the product new variations as succeed the really important to have scale around the harbour families you have now. But why why do you need to separate hardware and software a main from the volition that we've been talking about specifically for looking at standards and these ecosystems, theoretically, they should run them. Whatever hardware you choose. Or is that just not the case is that not really realistic today for over the air standards. Absolutely. So if you're thinking about for example, interoperability with another device even from another vendor could use I want. Yeah. That's what I want. One different interrupt -bility between different vendors. But that's so that mean, I have to speak pick a specific hardware or not at all. So that's okay. That's definitely doable in and that's something to keep in mind. When you're choosing software is that you have interoperability have standards for that reason. However, though, when you're making, you know, the hardware decisions within your own organization for your own products, the business decision this case actually taking the right heart relented last, right? You wanna be able to reuse the same might controllers Manley's crossing ships. You want to maximize your volumes of hardware that you can actually purchase when you're making that across devices. Right. You wanna be able to reuse radio interfaces drivers. So that a lot you can do with us certifying, you know, modules for what you're doing and reusing that across products. So I think hardware in that sense is is is a business choice of how you create scale across your products. That's important to keep in mind. Okay. Where that hit software. Right. Is that? Well, when you when you're choosing software ecosystem in your building your software toolkit. You wanna make sure that you can reuse the same software applications across those products. Right. You might have three different variations of home automation sensor, for example. You definitely don't wanna have three completely different on software took its you wanna have the same one, and you may have three different variations of an application. Right. So is this a big decision? Number two. I one picking the proper hardware Harper platform sequinned picking the the proper software ecosystem. Yeah. And I think in particular making sure that you have a soccer ape assistant that can support the different hardware communication interfaces. Applications you wanna create and as much as possible. I think what you're gonna see happening is that a lot of budget used to go into a hand piecing together months of proprietary software into it. I think that's gonna change. I think the budget is going to be more in the hardware, making sure you have the best possible hardware in designed for your device. Right. The importance of design is is getting bigger and bigger..
"operating system" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"To your devices easily make a webpage, and that's why actually just at the end of last year. We announced that we're we are expanding our partner program to to cover the the cloud side of things as well. So we used to only partner with silicon providers, you know, support their chips with the software. Make sure all the drivers are great. But we've we've realized talking to people issue wasn't enough. We need to actually go work with. All the cloud players, including players like Salesforce dot com. They wouldn't normally think of as betted IOT there. But they are they're the the world's largest business. Applications. Yeah. No. I think it's an important point that you bring up is, you know, and to certain extent what you're really talking about is is bridging OT and IT. And so, yeah, we need the cloud to be using the same stacks the same standards as the chips as the software. I should say as software as protocols which we've talked about on the show before. And we're going to be speaking about more. And as the, you know, the OS we're talking about now, and obviously being hosted by the chips because that's what the internet of things is it just goes beyond the operating technology of 'em to 'em, or you know, these specialized industries that we've talked about before it goes beyond the, you know, the enterprise IT, which which which gathered more human based information or input it in whatever whatever format, and and that's and that's really I guess that's a really important is that bridging between the OT in the IT. And I guess if you think about it. Yeah. It makes logical sense that arm and other players start thinking about the communication and more holistic manner. And and so that's what you're seeing this year's I guess broadening of the vision. I guess a more practical use of the standards of bringing together the standards from these different lines groups consortiums, and then to enable broader vision of what? I guess communication means for for is that a fair way to summarize. Yeah. And getting the offer to people, right? So we'll be open sourcing, a huge range of of communication standards. This tier on one of our main goals actually getting on technology, developers for free and the whole technology. Right. Not just a little pieces of it. But things they can really go use products. That's not a sorry. That's I wanted to talk about in particular. Now is okay. So listeners to this show. We've got all types of listening to the show, but although we're talking technology now because I really believe you know, you you have to understand how it works for you can put it to work, really the focus. Here's for business executives leaders managers that are thinking about implementing IOT within their business as a process or within a product. So okay. So we're going to make our connected product. Now, we need to make a lot of different decisions. You know, I've spent again, the first five episodes of this of this podcast on sensors in particular, more at a macro level, not at the embedded level. We're going to do that as well. But what do what do they need to think about what what when you're planning your out business? What do you need to think about from a software point of view? What are the important factors that you should be taken consideration? When you're building both your business plan, and you requirements doc 'cause I'm assuming that's where that's where the we. We let the serious techies like yourself take it from there. But from a business point of view, what do what do we need to know?.
"operating system" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"Really efficient binary web protocol. We've got security. We've got discovery we know. Oh have object. Formats, you know, the Zola recently published up. Yeah. Whole set of objects semantic formats, really nice reusable we've got device management from lightweight unto him. It will main all open standards based on you know, basic internet, blue building blocks, we have them go out and use them. I think last year we really got that message through the people we've seen of his come together on that nearly putting those pieces together, you know, always season example of that kind of putting all the building blocks together and say, hey, there's here's different architectures where you can use internet standards. And I think that's a healthy thing to do. Now, the challenge this year's how do we get those standards to people? Right. Okay now. Traditionally embedded software hasn't worked like that. Right. And that off I been more. Like, hey, here's a chip and your some drivers using you need to go and put together, the pieces of your thing, whereas swimming your things really specialized so the same package of of building box won't work for everyone. Right. And so it's been very fragmented. You've had to piece together a security stack here zig stack here. And that hasn't really provided for scale. So the big trend. This year will be soccer ecosystem. So getting all that software in all those standards implemented in a way that people can get a hold of them. And that's that's kind of the problem. We're trying to solve an arm now focusing all our energy on. We've got you know, we're shipping over three billion cortex m that's our our term Mitchell or. Chips would our partners. Of course, we don't make chips, but Texas Instruments dies Admiral peeing all of our partners over three billion a year. How do we get all these standards to those chips? Right. That's a huge number of devices out there. We could just get the software technology everyone. Yeah. And these open, I guess these software ecosystems are going to be dependent on open standards awfully because you have to write the something. Yep. Any to get you have to get services working with your devices. And that's the other than thing that will happen is as we have the soccer systems available that standards are easily available to developers need that other part of the ecosystem, which is the cloudplayer's services that can host your data operators that can go easily build out network for you your infrastructure mum, you'll server platforms that can talk.
"operating system" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"So we do a very wide range of microcontroller technology. So what were the what were the the the open source of the non-commercial drivers your? Mentioning. So a great example of for for open. Sources is free toss affair toss. One of the better known open source real time up, okay? And what about tiny OS is that is that fall in that classification is why are Kentucky or or where do they fall into the spectrum very good question. So that's not the the the real time operating system spectrum. That's that middle one this low power operating system with functional so tiny lesson can take care the great examples of kind of free community open source based projects with roots back in academia. Now, just recently from arm. We actually announced what we call and that operating system and Beto s and that that falls in that category as well. So that's does okay aimed at not real time. But the really low power devices where we're focused on internet, connectivity security in particular. So what do we call it? What we call on these low. They're not a Wes as your said. So there what what are we going to call these number two there when things settled down when you you look back in time say the by the from now, we're gonna call these things operating systems. Simply as that. Right. Is Julius gonna be an operating system, and we're not gonna think deeper into it. It's going to be the whole set. Asaf wear from drivers to scheduling to security to communications that you need to go. Start creating your application, right? Yeah. No. I'm talking about the the middle. So we got the bare metal. You're writing your own drivers your main control Lou book aid. That's our local at the bare metal software. Yep. The second the second one is for energy management bouncing energy management and functionality and the third one is the are toss. And I'm sure you know, it's evolving from there. But what's that? What's that second one? What do we call those? I mean, so Kentucky's one of those and tiny OS is one of those what do they have like a general generalized name? I know they fall all under the the OS umbrella, but for that middle segment because I think that's important. I think will really end up just calling them operating system. Simple as that operating systems for embedded devices. More for for not as opposed to the ARTAS is is a contrasting to Dr toss which are which are more specialized in particular verticals often, unfortunately, having the silos they carry around with him. Well, I think that really Bill be the difference. Right. We have you know, the operating system where you have all the software you need works for most things internet connected devices in particular, and then you have on real time operating systems, which are exactly that. Right. It's it's a it's a software stack specialized in in real time performance. And and you'll naturally have this on this application different verticals, autumn motive or or safety applications as I think that is how people will talk about it in the future. Okay. Absolute now. So if we if we squint a little bit we can see with Moore's law and with. With you know, with with everything else that the hardware is obviously getting more powerful. There's more memory available and it's becoming lower costs. So I think you know, as we've seen in general computing, we're seeing prices going down. We're seeing capabilities going up. So I guess my question is when does the General S or will the general ever be able to to consume or eat the ARTAS, and you know, my perspective. And I've said it many times is is all about standardization. And I really believe the one of the greatest frictions that are holding back IOT today is lack of standardization at multiple levels specifically at the, you know, the IP level. But I see our toss, you know, if we're if we're talking about certain, I o t applications it's really important that you know, that RT part of the R toss is it is it going to be subsumed or consumed by general, Wes or. Is there always going to be placed in IOT for real time operating systems? So I think there will be a place. I don't believe that that that the real time scheduler. Operating systems will be consumed by general operating system. I think what you'll find is that they'll start to work together at some point..
"operating system" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"And that's what people know as a as a real time operating system real time operating systems aren't really how we think about operating systems in in the PC world, for example, they're really just schedule or colonels. So it's the scheduling part of of an operating system. So if you look at Lena, for example, that would be the lean scheduler that gives process process sharing, and those are very really specialized in real time control applications safety applications, and you do up to scheduling where you can really make sure you've got hard time limits on how long term pieces of software can can work are how fast you have to meet a deadline for for control. And those tend to be very specialized. So you have different sets of software that come with for different industries. You might have some specialized automotive some more on Dusko applications. And so it's a really really fascinating class of software because it really runs a lot of the the heart industrial applications. We haven't runs, you know, trains and it runs aircrafts. And a lot of really exciting things run on realtime planes, trains and automobiles absolutely. Some of the main applications of of real time operating systems. And and it's getting exciting in the space. And I think that's the cool thing about the invented invented electron IX. And software space is that we really start to have more and more soccer available. And I think it's only gonna get better in in the real time operating system space. We already have a lot of really mature options. Everything from open source real time. Donder like free are toss to commercially supported source code from for example, Makram or express logic, right examples, you know, you can get commercial software, but you get the source code, you compile, you get support, and you know, at arm, we work with all of these off all of these are toss on partners in making sure that all the supports great, drivers, etc..
"operating system" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"Technology that we created at sense does that at arm. We can come in give it away. We can do open source. We can make it scale across, you know, hundreds of thousands of developers very and really get that technology out there. So it's really about making the cool technology we'd've a startup scale. And that's seeing happened right now, we win launched a new a new operating system and soccer ecosystem for for not called 'em bed. Where we actually are integrating on all the sensing technology. So sense. The note is the as is it no longer called sensitive. Now. It's Embiid or is it two different things. No. It's actually we've we've integrated all the sense, you know, dot technology into into 'em. So we don't have any of the end of the old sensing Odom brands are aren't aren't around anymore. Everything's part of part of Emden. And how long has it been now the the acquisition year to half eighteen months, baby? Okay. Well, let us know. What's one interesting fact that most people don't know about you? So I'm actually very much outdoors and in kind of handicrafts type of person in my spare time, so when I'm not working with technology. Not in going out any vandalizing what we do. I'm skiing in the back country hiking, and I do a lot of woodworks. It's actually building furniture. Nice like that. So kind of a hit handicaps guy, and one thing that a lot of people don't know about me is actually my first company before doing sensing is actually an outdoor climbing and backcountry skiing. I still I still own that in it's still running which is pretty interesting. So is that in Finland Finland? Yeah. And so you mentioned before the call that you're there now is that what you're spending your time on in the back country hiking and as much as possible yet man well in California, at least we're getting a little bit of rain this year. So there's a bit of steam. But it's nothing like Finland. I'm sure. Yep. All right. Well, let's get the business here little bit. Can you describe for us at a high level? What's the software that's needed in a sensor or low-powered IOT device? What what are different components just give us an overview of that. Sure. So if you look at the at the micro controller space, right? What will miss leave out bigger processors, where we have, you know, full on operating systems, but Mike controller space. You have a few different levels of absorbed wear that you can work with. You can do what we call bare metal. So you have your driver's. They might come with the device that you've got from silicon vendor or it might be part of a project that us. So drivers are starting point. And then you may do your own software taken some communication. Standards that you you need from from various places integrated and basically write your own main loop, and it's really just the basic level of engineering that a lot of really simple embedded products actually used to. So bare metal driver based on embedded devices are out there. Okay. Now that that works for a small small set of functionality. You can only do so much with that maintain it gets difficult to maintain a- at some point so small small the smaller end of my controllers tend to use this. Another level of software for for vices are what we call up low-power operating systems. So where the goal is to get as much software functionality in device as we can in a standard package reusable software. But the the goal of the operating system is not to do things like real time scheduling and and control, but really just to optimize power. How can we get this these different functions working in a way that we're at the lowest possible power consumption where we're using resources efficiently? We are not using more flash ram than we have to. We don't require as much clock speed. And that's another class of of operating system. So powers the fundamental driving factor in in that case and function our consumption. Yeah. And function our getting just the stand bouncing the to the different functions you need that you have reused. That's the two major major things. And then we have a third class of of soccer for for my controllers..
"operating system" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"So the open organization, of course, makes all the information available. But it doesn't really have a marketing budget doesn't go in tell people about. Hey, look at six low pan. Panin collapse in these are seasons. Oh, great use them. They're not advertising cetera. They're not certifying that you have used our have c two five six correctly. The tip doesn't do that. So that that leaves a role for other organizations to help market on internet standards. And a great example of that is the abso- alliance. So the was actually formed reform that with with partners like Cisco in Rexon. Some five years ago. And the reason we did that was exactly this help market Intel people teach people about the internet in the in the things space. Right. Why how does it work? What are the standards come together? And that's been really successful. We've actually done a lot to teach teach the industry on why internet based standards are are great. And dish into that. You also need alliances to help do more vertical integrated stacks of IT of standards standards tend to be very piecemeal. They have right UDP TCP. You have coop. Six those are separate rightback's. You can mix them all together. And that's just how internet layering works. Right. You can use different combinations pro calls, and that's okay. Internet was designed for that. And theoretically, they should all kind of fit together and work just nicely. Right. Except when you go into an environment like a home, right? And you have a wifi connected sensor or six ten connected sensor with a consumer. How is that gonna work? How do we know that these things are all configured to work with each other using the right versions of standards cetera. And that's when alliance can actually help put together for a specific use case. Let's go to take smart home, for example. Actually, make sure that the right version of six Lapan with routing and security are used they're all set up in the same way. Right. You deal with network joining in the same way, you have the same basic requirements for certification. So that the products were with each other. And that's what threads all about. Right. Threads about taking those pieces of ice, you have standards specifying how they need to work with each other. So that you can really do consumer products out of the box. Got it got not all that different from wifi. Right. Why has a similar role in the industry giving the lines? Yep. Well, let's close the loop on on you the transition to arm. I guess you've kind of indirectly said what you're doing. You're you're going out there, you're still working in the standards bodies evangelizing. How's the transition been from a startup to such a large company? Exciting. Really? I mean, what one thing to keep in mind is is arms of medium size company where were thirty three hundred people located around the world. Bigger. But it, but an extreme, you know, the impact we have on the streets. Huge. It's really exciting to be in that that position. I think the biggest transition going start up to a larger company is that we have the resources to completely transform industry with a startup you. Can you can make your vision happen in the way that you actually can implement it? You can get it to some customers. You can go tell people about it. And you can do it. Fast driving, your John go move. And you know, you can change things and everybody says that it's never gonna work right or there's never going to happen. You can say no it will. And I'll make it happen. Right. Right. But it you get to a point with a startup where when it's time to really go take that technology in scale at across an entire industry. You don't have the resources to do it. You can't you can't expand fast enough. You can't give something away when you should write in order to make money maybe later on startups. You oftentimes have to show that you're making. No you actually making revenue. Sure. So the coolest thing about taking that..
"operating system" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"Yes. But since no, we we actually did two things we we provided some of the first six pants tax on the market and using an open source model to start with and then going into stack bundling with silicon partners. We actually worked with Texas Instruments with at mount to get the stacks in the chips right out of the box. The other thing we did is we said, well, that's nice. We got internet two people while what do you do with just the internet protocol, ping? Right. Right. Trace route. That's nice but somewhat interesting, but someone interesting. Yeah, it's nerdy. But what we found is that when people went inside to build a real product system. They ended up reinventing of binary UD bass pro call each and every time right and everybody did differently. So we started looking at well, what does it take to really let us do the web over these networks? What's the ideal way to use the rest? Architecture for moving data around, you know, should the device via client or should it be a server? How should we represent data? Right. How do we do security? We do do we have to do something completely different. Or can we adapt something like detail s? And so we really dug in and looked at all those questions and ended up creating a server side software product as well that helped us. Access all the protocols in security that we needed to go do that in the meat. You know in the process, we helped create a bunch of new standards on the most notable being Kohap constrained, application protocol, actually came out of that work that we did on. Hey, how do we do web over six low pan and co-op ended up being the answer? When we worked with the whole bunch of other people in standardization. Are you still involved in coop? What words the we've had a number of presenters at at my conference and even on this show. We're going to have we're going to have a show with Michael Richardson in one or two from now what what's the current standard clip? Yeah. We'll say standard, I should say what's the current situation. Say hi to Michael. So I I am equally involved to the ATF. So as I said marketing nerd, Yep. So I do I writing a couple of standards right now in the in the working group where we where we standardized coop. Oh, good. So there's there's new things going on where we're doing coop. Over teeth CP were doing something called a resource directory, and then recommendations about how to create rest resources. So if you do create rest resources, what's the style to do that? Right. What's what some nine lines marauding writing our seas on those subjects I also chair working group on optimizing? Detail that's for security, which is something. Really? So how do we really do interoperable security, but make it as simple as possible for for things? And we're we're updating standards like six low pen right doing what's needed to support new standardization efforts like thread, what you really it's more like WI fi ride at puts together, the different ATF standards. You need to make an interoperable system. Well, that's not one to talk to you little bit about maybe we're jumping ahead. But, but I think it's an opportune time, so I know you've also had the history with episode just with the six we're talking about six low pan and clap both dear and near to my heart. Now, how does this all tied together? What's the differences between the work, you're doing on the standards bodies and threat? And in fact, we are going to actually have a separate show with thread, and the different alliances groups and consortiums, but. From your perspective. What is the differences in? What's the different work has to be done? And what are the different roles of these? I guess these different organizations you're involved in regarding the internet of things specifically this IP six thread through it. So this is a really simple way to look at this on the internet engineering task force, which is really a body of volunteers. Right. We we go there. And we we really throw our heart at energy into, you know, creating open the standards for the things most of us involved in the ICF would go there on our own dime on our own time and still some and and I I would as well if I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing now. Absolutely. And it doesn't market. It doesn't advertise. What it's doing which is an interesting thing..
"operating system" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"Software sensors startup I thought he'd be able to provide a great perspective on the software found in the connected sensor. Zach welcome to the show. Thank you. So what he'd been up to I understanding but doing a little bit of traveling lately? Absolutely. We are all over the world at events telling people about standards about software ecosystems for internet connected things. And we're happy to do that all over the world. So I did not know the new title VP of marketing. So you're kind of an evangelist or what are you doing right now at arm? Tell us a little bit about your role there. Sure. So I didn't evangelist techie would be the right? The right. Evangelists nerd. Arm. I'm really all about letting people know about the great software, tools implementations of standards that we have for people making embedded products. Oh, man. You sound like a marketing guy. Exactly, but we're creating great technology. And so so for me marketings really about helping get the technology to people teaching people about standards how they work. How technology works right? How software works right, right? And I think that's that's really exciting for me is the teaching side of. Yeah. No, I agree. And at its heart marketing is all about communication and communication of teaching should say is all about good communication. So I'm I'm with you there. Well, tell our audience a little bit about yourself and your background in IOT. I get a little bit of a blurb. But I think there's there's a little bit more to the story. Yeah. So I started in in the the wireless. Internet connected. Low power embedded device space back in the late nineties. Mom was really still kind of the internet web bubble. We could maybe call it this point. Okay. But Rothe in the web, right? And that was the important part of the web became a form for innovation. We were looking at. Well, if the internet so powerful, we can do a lot of interesting things. Why can't we do the same with low power devices in small embedded chief devices over wireless mesh networks? Why can't those be hard to be internet? Why can't we use Babb? Yeah. Why can't wouldn't security end to end? Mum. We were asking ourselves questions late nineties started working on a whole string of really interesting projects in the research world at that time. Out really, pushing the envelope. Why can't we do? I six over a little sensor network. Why not no why can't we do the web where we have to do to make it work. Right. It wasn't about. Oh, it doesn't work. So let's create some something completely different. It was about. How do we make it work? And we did the wrong things. We did the right things. We learned a lot in say the early two thousands about what we can do to really make an internet of things. Come true. Now was this in the context of the of research as you were saying research lab or was it commercial that point research lab so up to about two thousand five I was involved with a couple of different research labs on read some teams doing everything from ultra ultra wideband wireless communication technology, including positioning, our, you know, we did flow the first software. Stacks running IP over what became bluetooth low energy. Interestingly enough. No kidding. Okay. And that's that's just seems to be a recent event. At least that's been kind of brought to the public's. I wasn't what a lot of people. Don't know is that actually started back already in two thousand one in Nokia laboratories in Finland actually started working on what later became Buddhist, low energy through a couple of different different names are kidding Zoe involve some of the early days of wireless standards like that. And some point realize that to really make this technology come come off get the standards that we've been worse. Working on out there. We wanted to to make it happen faster. We've found a startup to do that. And that's how it was really born. We had the vision of internet and web everywhere. And we wanted to do it through open source through. No getting the technology to people rather than waiting for. You know, the big corporations of those days to just take it and use it. Now, what was Cincinnati? What was its main focus them? So what was the what was the product? I guess I should say..
"operating system" Discussed on The Changelog
"Why why are these other microcredit not doing so well why are they developing slowly why are they not being utilized why does it look like a ghost town when you try to find people who are working on mimics or working on heard and i think it's because the interests died because these projects in one way or another kept hitting problems with micron olds did did perhaps were solved by hardware perhaps were solved by software but at the time were not solved heard for twenty years stagnated very recently debbie in has had a version of of debbie in that runs on the heard colonel which is a great achievement it's probably more usable than than reebok's in terms of all of the software that's available but it's not as promising as reitox the reason is it the architecture of reebok's yes i believe had to be designed for the time for the software at the time the hardware at the time the architecture had to be designed from the ground up to produce a platform that could then burst into a a fullyfledged generalpurpose operating system so we talk about what you're up to and um how you you had the second job now uh we haven't mentioned is that you do have a patriotic campaign seer giving it a go at new people supporting your work on reebok's not doing how bad by the way 100 at when he three patrons um you know giving you a thousand and eighty five dollars a month to work on this on having quite reach our goals tells let your decision to hop on patriarch on and know how it's going in and some your goals for your personal in a sustainability on this product.
"operating system" Discussed on The Changelog
"We do need to implement a more complex example which i think would be to run multiple versions of reebok's at different ip addresses and then do virtual networking in a user face process the dende outputs them to the real network basically doing lx c which is lennox containers they are os level which means that it isn't virtues eishin it is real one hundred percent speed processes running on one colonel but certain processes have different rights and those rights are controlled by other processes so doing something like dr would probably be the best proof of this system but we do have things using it already very cle anything else at the eu corps to read oxes design uh the on touch i'm afraid broaden the conversation talk about the ecosystem because there are a lot of other stuff going along around you know an injury dotted it is notable thing that's very much ship who talked about my group carnal s who talked about the file system uh that's the colonel is the foul system arbitrary arrests of at threats most of it yeah okay so expanding the conversation and looking beyond a the colonel and the file system uh there's obviously a lot more uh the goes into a functional no generalpurpose operating system and you have a lot of other things going on mus many maintain by you many maintain my other people in the community where do we start i mean you got you got the a little editor had the eye on shell you god nino utility as i mean they're orbital there's so many things we talk about what's the most.
"operating system" Discussed on The Changelog
"And what it does is provide a framework for vile systems the dan user space can use to create file systems and to perform file system operations that's essentially what it does uh the older colonel before the rewrite had drivers included so it wasn't a microcredit lewis a monolithic carl and even older the nazi if you go all the way back to the original right the original get commit it was a unit so the first thing that happened was to be able to run processes in user space the next thing that happened was moving drivers in into user space in order to do that we had to write some some special system calls for drivers to hook into but the majority of system calls in the in the reitox carnal are file system related opening files reading writing seeking closing and duplicating spree much it uh there are some timing system calls uh and there are some process control system calls like exact and sleek things like that well actually clock nano's nn asleep or something like that which everyone has the highest resolution is the the one we implement what this means is that in users space in reitox you have disc drivers file system drivers networks stack network drivers the graphics stack graphics drivers the input stack input drivers are all programmes this is very different from other operating systems especially other uttering systems there at this level of development because if you do look at other micro colonels they have tended to lag behind in part because it's difficult to write a micro and also in part because there is in a lot of interest in micrograms but i think after realizing the security benefits again there will be a renaissance in micro criminals in reitox will be one of them so is at architecture put more strain and slow down the development of these specific like the networking stack in user space um does it make writing that portion of the operating system more difficult because it doesn't have colonel access or once you get the microphone will set up it's really a six in lyon half dozen than the other.