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Bible Truth: Is There An Eternal Hellfire?

Yahshua The Messiah Ministry

51:53 min | 8 months ago

Bible Truth: Is There An Eternal Hellfire?

"Let us start repair your heavenly father we come before you're thrown on your blessed shibata and we thank you father for blessing us another week giving us food and clothing and shelter and health and opening up our mites. You truth in your spirit and father. We just pray your spirit. The guy lead this study. We pray for those who suffering this world especially those families who have been affected by the virus we pray your kingdom come on the earth is as it is in heaven and we thank you father for the great sacrifices sending your son to pay the of your sins shoes name. We pray how little you already. We are just a week away from chamonix and they don't probably. We won't do a bible study next week on arab shebab because we'll have saturday service in sunday service for showboat and then we'll get back to where study afterward. Today's study is going to be on. Is there a hellfire. It's from the correspondence course. Less than seven goes pretty good with the. We did last week on the reward of the saved and people not going to heaven when they die. And that's the belief pretty much of i'd say ninety nine percent of christian people when you die you either go directly to heaven if you're good or you go directly to hell if you're not in. We're going to see today that nothing in scripture remotely says anything like that and a matter of fact even the concept of people burning a hellfire forever is not a scriptural concept. So where would this come from. We went over list week. You know where historical. We're the idea came from of going to heaven book. It's the same thing here when you look at the church. Fathers from around two hundred to four hundred ad when they say church fathers they really the catholic church fathers as the true believers flee into the wilderness right and you have the politicians and then you know the other people that are there and you basically have the universal catholic church said starting from the second third and fourth century up until constantine when he has the council and he start putting all these things together and bring the paganism that he's mixing but there's one catholic church father by the name of augustine very famous. He lived from the years of three fifty four hundred thirty ad and he was the first one that reasoned that there should be a temporary cleansing of the perfect souls and purgatorio fire. So i don't know if all persons believe this. I know the catholics definitely. Believe it that when when you die. I guess they feel. You're not good enough to go to heaven right away so what you do. Is you go to purgatory. You go place where you could. You know get beat up or whatever. They're gonna do purgatory for a while. And then you go up to heaven. Maybe not the best case scenario. But i guess it's better than burning hellfire forever is the other side of it but from the encyclopedia britannica eleventh addiction the eleventh edition on the article on purgatory augustine. Reason that there should be a temporary cleansing of imperfect souls in purgatory. He like many other early christian. Theologians was in -fluenced by the pre christian doctrine the doctrine of the ancient pagan philosophers in other early church fathers then after that in a medieval times. You had a man called dante allegations from lift from twelve sixty five to thirteen twenty one. And he's the one really who started with. That's what you get dante's inferno started with this eternal hellfire that never goes out and over here from thomas page dante in his influence patriot page seven. It says dont. They wrote it. Tremendously popular palm law. Davina cut media in three parts. Hell purgatory and paradise of all poets of modern times says modern. Arthur dante allah geary was perhaps the greatest educator he possibly had a greater influence on the course of civilization than any other one man from his day. He wrote an imagine an imaginative lord account of dismal journey through lord. Hell a long poem containing certain phrases which have caught the attention of the world. Dante's reported to have been fascinated raptured by the ideas and philosophies of philosophers plato and virgil that he believed they were inspired divinely inspired. So who are plato. And the encyclopedia americana tells us virgil was a pagan roman poet from seventy five to nineteen. He belong to the national school of pagan roman thought and was influenced by the greek writers. Christians of the middle ages including dante believed he had received some measure of the find inspiration. Plato a greek philosopher was born in athens and forty two c. Oh this is virgil. The first one was virtual. He was the pagan poet from seventy to nineteen belong to the national school of pagan thought. Plato was a greek philosopher. Point in athens in forty two was a student of the renowned socrates. Plato's famous literally work. Fado taught the mortality of the soul the foundation of other writings for the doctrine of eternal. Hell when wicked souls are supposedly punish forever. So the world concept of hell is admittedly a product of human thinking in speculation men have puzzled over the eventual fate of the wicked. So it's good to start off that way because you wonder. How on earth do we get to this point. We're at today. You know and again the internet is only really about twenty thirty years old when you look at it but before the internet age you know you had libraries yet ways that people can go but today people could look anything. You could look up anything in a matter of seconds as you're looking it up and there's really no reason for people to be deceived by these things and i think and it's probably not for the right reasons but probably in the last ten to twenty years. Probably more people in the world are not believing in going to heaven or going to hell and not. Because they're coming to the truth. I think people are just getting away from religion altogether getting into a lot of different things. But we're gonna go over today. Is we want to go over. What does the bible say about this. So we prove this is not a bible concept of you know somebody dying and then immediately going to hell just burning there forever. So let's start in mark nine in verse forty-three schumer says if your hands offend you cut it off for. It is better for you to enter into light main than having two hands to go away into gehenna into the unquenchable fire right. So if your hand defend you cut it off. It's better to go to life main than having two hands to go away into the into the unquenchable fire. So what are you mean by this. He certainly didn't want people to maim themselves. Because if you out your eyes or you cut off your hand that's not gonna stop you from sending because sin starts in the mind and in the heart right and even if you're blind or even if you don't have hands you could still in but it's it's an idiom it's an era make idiom that basically saying whatever is causing you to send you have to get out of your life because if not going to happen you're going to go away into the into the fire. One blessing with us when you're when you're looking at some of these wrong doctrines in mis translations a lot of times these doctrines come from translations in the king james bible which being translated for us. We don't have the same problem because the word hell let's say right. We have the english word. Hell and in the king james. You'll see you know maybe over here. It says a better to have to hanson. Go away into hell into the unquenchable fire so if in reality there's different words for hell in different meanings for the word hell in english. It makes sense that you have to be able to tell. The difference of what place is scripture talking about. And what exactly are they talking about. So when we're looking here the word gehenna is very clearly. That is a fire. It's a valley on the southern part of jerusalem from the kidron valley. That's in the east. It comes around to the southern part in turns into the valley and that's where they used to burn the garbage and biblical days. So that's where the idea came from gehenna the lake of fire. Now there is a literal fires. We're going to see and it seems to be at that very place that that's where the lake will be so it is a there is a real health fires. We're going to see they're going to be people who is going to go into it. They're just not going to burn forever because that would mean they have to be given immortality which we know from i timothy. Six only one has immortality. And that's you show. We have eternal life right now dwelling in us if we're baptized in his name. But we don't have in mortality bible says when he returns he's coming in will reward us according to a work and he will give us immortality at that part so the difference between eternal life and immortality eternal life can be taken away. But once you have been mortality. That's it then you will live forever the way that him and the father live forever. So that's cahana. That's the one word that's in the bible that's used for the word hell. The second that used in the aramaic is the word she'll and in the greek. The word is haiti's which simply means the grave. If you lived one hundred and fifty two hundred years ago even in the english language they would say in the winter. They're planting potatoes in health. In haiti they were saying because it's the dirt. It's the grave that's where you you put so that's all that word means so you have to know the difference because everybody you know. Sometimes i'll shock somebody from if i'd given bible studies to say at a christian group that doesn't understand any of this and sometimes you want to open up with a shocking statement to get their attention so the first thing i'll say is i want to let everyone of you know you're all going to helm and then i explained they're going to haitis all of us when we die we all we all go to the grave deal get put in the dirt and that's the word they're using for help but there's a big difference we're not all going to the lake of fire. We're not going to hannah. But we are all going to hate. We go to the grave dirt so unfortunately in english they use the same word but they mean totally different things. And then there's a third word that's useful into that later. Used very sparingly. Toros is the place of the fallen cherubs that are saying that they are chain during this place of confinement and the aramaic in the hebrew word is tarter us and the english word they say help. They use the same word for hill. So that's why it's very difficult in our translation. We tried to put whatever the word was so instead of just using the word hell over and over and over we use the word gehenna. We use the word. She'll we use the word toros so like i said when you're doing that it really makes it easy. Then it's not. There's no trick anymore. It's not that hard to figure it out but unfortunately for many many people that are using the king james and they don't have that liberty that's why we have to go over this so Standing that let's go over now the scriptures and the different means of these words. And let's see what the bible says about this. So luke twelve in verse five luke. Twelve in verse five. Says but i will warn you whom you should fear. Fear the one we after killing after the killing has authority to cast into hannah. I say fear that one so this is where he's warning not to fear man who can kill your body but fear the one guy who could take your body and your your spirit your soul and put it into the fire fiesta and destroy it did literally says to destroy it inca so again it's another lesson to soul is not immortal to solve it since it will die as Eighteen four the wages of center death romans six twenty three. They're not eternal life in fire. So even though you may think bad it's uncomfortable feels bad. You know. I mean if you're living in a place where it's muggy and hot in the summer and maybe one hundred ten degrees and you might be thinking. Wow boy this has to be the worst thing in the world to be in hell. It's gotta be three times as hot as this but if there's this eternal hellfire it's still eternal life. It's still immortality so that's not what the bible says. Eternal life is a gift from galway. It's not it's not a unconditional right. You know it's not a constitutional right. It's not in the bill of rights. That you get immortality. It's just not their immortality and eternal life is a gift from highway. So we're bored. Morton were mortal beings. And that's why. I say every one of us will live. It's appointed home and wants to die. Hebrews nine twenty seven and then the judgment so we will leave overall die and when we die where we go. We go to she. Oh we go to haiti. Search which i'd rather say health. I'd rather just use she'll we go to the grave every human being we'll go to the grave so let's look at a few said say this ecclesiastes these three nineteen for that which happens to the sons of men and that which happens to beasts even one event is to all of them as this one dies so that one dies yea one breath is to all right so everyone animals humans we all live. We all die numbers twenty all go into place or a dust in over return to dust right all are dust and all return to us. So y'all w-we created us from the dust of the earth and he breathed the breath of life into us because he is eternal. he is immortal. His breath is life know. His breath is life in his breath is life. And that's why when you look at even the word spirit in hebrew it's crew acc- right. It's like your your breathing your quality of life and that word because there's life in his spirit and that's what says he breathed his rural okkas spirit and gave him in life but once man dies the spirit goes back to away because the spirit is eternal dispirit that him and his son has but we are not eternal and we go back to the dust of the great waiting the resurrection right. Some six in verse. Five for there is no memory of you and death shall give thanks to you in. She'll who shall give thanks to you and she'll even acts two thirty one right which is talking about some sixteen messianic psalm for seeing. He spoke about the resurrection of the messiah that his soul was not left in. She'll nor did his corpse see corruption right. So that's from psalm. Sixteen ten eleven. I will not leave my holy one in the grave in shield to seek corruption. So it's he wasn't in hell. He was in the grave he was in. She'll certainly wasn't in lake fire. Cleese's fees nine ten all that you're an finds do do it with your straight for there is no work or planning or knowledge or wisdom and she'll dear where you go the grave so i think it's just better off not using the word healthier you know because if you use the word health for the lake of fire people going to burn and cease to exist and use the word hell for the grave where people die there. They're temporarily. they're two totally contrary opposite things so it's better just not to use that word. I fifteen twenty. First corinthians fifteen twenty cents but now messiah has been raised from the dead. He became the purse fruit of those having fallen asleep for an animal dies so also messiah all will be made a lie but each messiah the first fruits afterward those a messiah at his coming so we talked about this last time and the reward of the save and we said if people die in were up in heaven in the already got their reward. The what's the point of the resurrection right. So like somebody like let's say. Abraham abraham is up in heaven four thousand years. He's a spirit being. he's having a great time up there. Maybe playing on a harp on a cloud. Who knows and he's just having a wonderful right. He's in heaven. Why on earth would he want to come back to earth and get his body. That was corrupted in the grave. It makes no sense so clearly like we said the debtor asleep there sleeping in the great they haven't gotten reward. They're not up in heaven so the same way if the the ones who are getting rewarded or done heaven than it should also tell you the ones who are getting eternal death or not in hell yet because that would mean they're already judged would be the point of having the judgment day the white throne judgement if they already burning in hell that would make no sense whatsoever. So let's go to john five john. Five in verse. Twenty eight and twenty nine. He says do not marvel at this for an hour is coming an hour is coming. It's in the future which all those in the tombs will hear his voice and they will come out. The ones having done good into a resurrection of life. The ones having practice evil into a resurrection of judgment right so this is in the future so the same way hebrews eleven thirty nine forty all these die not having received the promise abraham. I've been there many times to mop alah his grave in hefferin and seen it abraham isaac and jacob is there with sarah rebecca and leah the mamas in the poppas. They're in the grave today. There's still there. They haven't received their promises yet and the same way king. David is in his crave like it said in x two in verse thirty four. He has an ascended into heaven his grave and every single believer unbeliever atheist. Whatever every single person that's ever lived ever guide is laying the grave today waiting for this. Resurrection do not marvel this for an hour is coming. It's in the future. It hasn't come yet in which all those in the tombs will hear his voice and they will come out. The ones having done good into a resurrection of life. The wants having practice evil into a resurrection of judgment. There are two different resurrections. Second corinthians five ten second corinthians five tenses for we all we all everyone that ever lived must appear before the judgement the messiah so that each one may received the things done for the body according to what he did whether good or bad so again if people were already in held and that would mean they already received judgment judgment. Day has not come yet. We see right here. This is in the future. So when does that judgment com. Let's go to revelation twenty suppose there's two judgments the first is the judgement which will be the reward of the first fruits revelation twenty and starting in verse four. This is when you show returns so this is going to happen. Within the next few period of years this is right around the corner here. And it says i saw thrones revelation twenty in verse four. And they said on them in judgment was given to them in the soles of the ones having been beheaded because the witness of your show and because the word of yesterday and who would not worship the beast nor tim mentioned not received the market and their forehead or in their hand and they lived in rain to a messiah thousand years. This is the first resurrection so this starts at the beginning of the millennium in the next few years and they're going to rain with him for thousand years blessing. This holy is the one having part in the first resurrection. The second death has no authority over these but they will be yuck way enough as messiah him rain with him it thousand years and then whenever the thousand years are completed saint will be set loose for a short time he goes into the people galloway brings the judgement and then we come to verse eleven. This is one. The white throne judgement happens after the thousand year million. So i'm going to go down to eleven now. And i saw great bike thrown into one sitting on it from whom face the earth and the heavens fled and a place was not found for them and i saw the dead the small and the great standing before your flight and books were opened and another book was open. Which is the book of life and the dead were jetted things in the books according to their works so what books are being open the books of scripture and the people are being judged according to those books and if their name was not written in the book of life then they're in trouble and the gave up the dead and the death and the grave gave up the dead and then and they were each judged according to the works or works important. You better believe it and death in the grave where thrown in the lake of fire. This is the second death and if anyone was not found having been written in the book of life he was thrown into the lake of fire. So this is the judgment. This is what he says but anyone but if anyone a but do not more vote this john. Five twenty and twenty for an hour is coming. Which all those in the tuneful hear his voice and they will come out the ones having done good into a resurrection of life. That's the first resurrection revelation twenty four six and the one practice even to a resurrection of judgment revelation. Twenty eleven through fifteen so very clearly so. The judgement is not happened yet. So right there to tell you that people can't be in a hellfire because there haven't been the judge bringing you have to judge. It's like look at it from a legal standpoint right if somebody does whatever they can kill somebody and they get arrested well before. They're going to get sentence. There has to be a trial. They have to make sure because maybe they really didn't do it. Maybe there's someone just looked like them or maybe somebody lied but whatever so you have to make sure that there is a legal trial. And that's what happens to the white throne judgement and that's why the books are open and that's why it's brought up and they'll see all these evil things they did and they're going to be judged before y'all way and then only then when they're judge would happens. They go to the lake of fire so when they go to like a fire does it. Say the burn forever. It says no no their physical human beings their flesh and blood and as long as it takes their body to burn in. That fire is as long as it and then they cease to exist like it says the memory will be no more. It'll be as if they never existed from that point so that is basically that. That's that's the the judgment that's coming. That's what the bible says on it. Roman six twenty three. The wages of sin is death. The gift of galway is eternal life and each person each human being that they have the ability to decide whether they're going to submit under you always rule and repent there since and accept the blood of your sure to pay the penalty of their sense. And have those since forgiven. Or if they're gonna go to that white throne judgement and go into the fire so it's very clear judgment happens another sleepers ten verse twenty six. He says we are. Willie willfully sending after receiving the full knowledge of the truth. There remains no more sacrifice concerning since he's ready for the fearful judgment and zealous fire of being about to consume the adversaries. I twenty nine. How much worse punishment do you think will be worthy to receive the one trampling son of galloway and having counted the blood of the covenant is common in what she was sanctified having insulted the spirit of grace for we know him who said vengeance belongs to me i will repay says ya and again will judge his people so very very clear that there is a judgment day in judgment. It's gonna come matthew twenty three in verse thirty three. we'll see. What did you say to the pharisees of his day. Matthew twenty three. And i thirty three. And this is where he's talking to the scribes and the pharisees in east condemning them for their hypocrisy and he says serpents right well serpents offspring of vipers. How shall you escape the judgment of gehenna. How do you keep the judgment of henna so again issue as saying that they will be burned up. Luke thirteen verse three says. No i say to you but if you do not repent you will all likewise be destroyed. So it's very very clear that the once a cordially wicked that go to a fire they will burn up though cease to exist and the ones who make the kingdom. They're not going to have to for the rest of eternity sit. There in sorrow has their friends and relatives. Maybe even parrots our children are burning there and some fire. And it's not even galleys character. When you really think about it you know that's man's character. Man wants revenge vengeance right. He wants to get even with people. He wants to see people suffer. All you always says in zeke. Eighteen is he wants people to repent. That's only ones he doesn't. He wants us to surrender to him for our own good. It's not that he's on an authority trip. He wants to do it because it's the only right way. And the lake of fire is the last act of love on his sake because people that will not listen or miserable. People people that that do not want follow you always way that are selfish and prideful always wanting their own way. They're not they're miserable people. They're not happy people so yeah we give them a whole lifetime to chain repent but if they don't end their character is seared that way that it's the last act of loving he to just have them cease to exist because they would never be happy if live forever they'd be miserable and make everybody else miserable and galloway doesn't want that he doesn't want the people that are going to be in the kingdom to be miserable because of their family and friends it didn't make it and he certainly doesn't want to see any child that he created burning hellfire for eternity. It's just it's just not even part of his character whatsoever so there is going to be a hellfire but is only going to be the burn. The people as long as they're not immortal as long as their body. You know how long it takes the body to burn and like. I like to say that it's the punishment it's eternal punishment not eternal punish ing so when you have a punishment that is forever that means the punishment doesn't change that's all it means so it's eternal punishment not eternal punishing. Meaning the judgement said. And it's there forever. I'll give an example in jeremiah. Seventeen in verse. Twenty seven right when y'all way is Threatening that because of the sins of jerusalem you know. They're going to be punished and listen to what he says he says. But if you will not listen to me to keep the sabbath day. Holy and not to carry a burden and entered the gates of jerusalem on the sabbath day then. I will kindle a fire in her gates. Nhl devour the palaces up to roussillon. Yea it shall not be put out. I will kindle a fire negates it will develop valid pal jerusalem. It will not be put out. Well you can go there today. And that fires still burning meaningfully. It's gonna burn as long as there's something to burn but once it's burned that it won't burn anymore. It's just like sodomy gabor luke. Seventeen verse twenty. Nine liquid says seventeen averse twenty nine but on the day went from sodom. Yabu rian fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed all of them right. Jude one in verse. Seven says similar as sodom all the cities around them in like manner to these committing fornication and going away if the strange flesh lay down an example before time undergoing vengeance of ever lasting fire over undergoing vengeance of everlasting fire. Now i've been to comoro one hundred times. There's not a fire that's still burning there because there's nothing left the but the punishment is still there four thousand years later you cannot even grow a week. You could still see the outlines of buildings the outlines of sphinx the all the stuff that's one hundred percent burnt it's one hundred percent burn is nothing there but the punishment remains the punishment is unchanged so it's eternal punishment meant past tense not eternal punishment eight. The fire is still going is still a fire burning in those cities the destroyed long ago. Of course not. We visit more each year on our pilgrim tour. You can clearly see the remains of the issues from that fire from almost four thousand years ago in even retrieved sulfur balls but the fire clearly is not burning the expression eternal fire in jude one. Seven means a fire. Results are permanent or everlasting. Obviously not a fire that burns forever. Sodomy damore utterly destroyed millennials ago. They are not burning today. The fire that burned these wicked city simply died out. after consuming. all combustible material these scriptures proved that the fire that never shall be quenched will not torment people forever. The fires were never quenched or put out premature prematurely by anyone. The flames merely died out when they had nothing more to consume. Even so it will be the final gehenna fire. That will consume the wicked. It will be unquenched but it will finally burn itself out once. There's no more people to burn that of the it so it's clearly that's out the fire post so scripture that people go to a lot to look at the hellfire in you know maybe the king james is very misunderstood. The parable of lazarus and the rich man. But i want to go over today because on the outset it made look like it's a showing support for everlasting hellfire but we really look at it and we understand and look at the words in proper translation will see actually really has nothing to do about having her whatsoever. So let's go there. And reverse luke sixteen luke sixteen starting at verse nineteen and there was a certain rich man and he was accustomed to donate purple robe in fine linen making marian luxury day by day and there was a certain one name liaise are and he would lay at the gate of that rich man will being afflicted with source and longing to be filled from the crumbs that were falling from the table. The rich one becoming even the dogs lick to source and it happened. Poor one died and carried away by the cherubs into the bosom of abraham and the rich when also died and was buried and being torments and she'll write the grave so in the king james and says being torment in hell. But he's not in gehenna burning fire yet he's chiel integrated for haiti's would be the word from the greek lifting his eyes. He sees abraham four off and elliott or in this bosom in calling said father abraham at pity on me and send. Elliot's are that. He may dip the tip of his finger in water in moisten mike tongue for i m tormented by. But abraham said my son remember that you fully received your good things in your lifetime liaison lies the bad things now. He is comforting. You're torment and beside all these things. That great has been fixed between us in you. So that those desiring to pass from here to you or not able. Nor can they pass from dear to us and he said then. I beg you father that you sent him to my father's house for five brothers so that he may witness to them that they not also come to this place of torment abraham moses and the prophets. Let them hear them but he said no father abraham but if one should go from the debt to then they will repent and he sent him if they do not listen to moses and the prophets they would not listen to believe in even if one for the dej to rise they would not believe so number one. This has nothing to do. There's nothing even mentioned about heaven and very very vaguely even mentioned about the of fire. Okay so what does the story about. The story is about the rejection. Of judah i'll be sure and the gentiles being griffin into the covenant. We'll see here very very clearly number. One right talks about the rich man right. Who's living the good life and luxury and it talks about the poor one. Elliot's would late. The feet to the rich was being afflicted with source. So the first thing is who is this labyrinth right. Lazarus is a corrupted form of the name. Elliot's elliot's earth the name l. As our is the servant of abraham this is abraham servant that is here so if we go back to genesis. Fifteen is very interesting. Because when y'all way told abraham that he was going to have a son right is air a seed from his lawyer is sick. Wouldn't abraham say fifteen two. And abram said at a way what will you give to me i am going charmless and the son of the inheritance of my house is elliot's or the masks and elliot's are remember he was a faithful service remember. He was the one that went and governed becca as a wife for isaac. So he's used in. This is a parable to begin with. You know it's not it's not a a history of something going on your sure this telling a parable and in the parable. He's using liaise are because he was a faithful servant abraham as an example of the gentiles being grafted into the company. Because remember galatian three twenty nine if you are in the seat of or if you are in messiah they you are a seed of abraham and in the air according to the promise we went over this last time on the correspondence course six. What is the reward of the safe. So the reward of the same. It doesn't matter. Whether you're israelite your gentile would ever would ever is abraham's reward your grafted infamous messiah to the covenant and you're the same rewards so you're sure is using the slave of abraham. The gentile are from damascus as the example of the gen sows being griffin. And that's what it's about. It's about the non-believing jews not making it into the kingdom and gentiles we're not even israelites. Being griffin in because of their belief. And that's what it's about. So i'll prove to you though that a the don't go to to help or don't go to they go to burning hellfire when they die because if we look here right now. Let's go what happens. I see saying how the rich man's living the good life and lazarus over here. You know living this terrible life. And look i twenty two and it happens. The poor guy and was carried away by the chair into the bosom of abraham. What does that mean. Being someone's bosom is being under their protection it's being under the promises so it's meaning he dies right. They all died not receiving the promised to hebrews eleven in verse thirty nine. What does he mean by dies. And he's abraham's bosom. I thirty nine hundred eleven and having obtained witness through faith. These all did not obtain the promise. Y'all with having proceed something better concerning us that they should not be perfect without us. It's abraham's covenant of faith that we are joining through your shula and that's why when we die we go into his protection. We go into his bosom. Sodas say that's where we're going to because we're having the same promises that that abraham had an a matter of fact is very interesting. I'm not going to scripture now for time wise but maybe it will go their numbers. Eleven numbers eleven eleven or twelve because when most is was taking care of all the people. What did he say away about that numbers. Eleven verse eleven. Twelve and moses set the way why have you done evil to your servant and why not found. Grace here is to put the burden of all this people on me. Have i conceived go. This people i have i begotten it that you say to me. Carry it in your bosom as the foster father. Bears the suckling lamb which you have sworn to his father's so being in someone's budget it's an idiom expression just meaning being under their protection being under the same promises the same protection that they have so very clearly here that so he's not going to heaven you know he's not up there in heaven because abraham is still in the gravy hasn't received the promises that we went over this last week the debt or asleep we just read that in the grave but once he died right he is getting the same promises abraham has he's in the bosom of abraham but what happens to the rich fan and the rich man also died and was buried so he was buried where he was buried in the grave so he didn't go to l. he was buried now what happens and being in torments and she'll lifting up his eyes he sees abrahama four of an a la so now it doesn't say here but when we put all the sixers together this is the resurrection now so he doesn't know it right. I record the first resurrection at the beginning of the thousand years the second resurrection after the thousand years and certainly the people that are in the second resurrection like this man is. He has no idea how much time has passed. So all that's happening is he's lifting his is but he's lifting is is he's not eternally burning hellfire he was in the great he was buried in the grave these lifting his eyes and now he sees the fire. It's a real fire. it's there right. And he's starting to get nervous as he sees the spire but he sees abraham and elliot's are in his both civilians are in his protection and he's wondering what's going on there right and he's the interesting part is also. He doesn't ask abraham to bring buckets of water right and burning in this hell fire that was thousands and thousands of degrees would be screaming. He said can you. Can you dip your finger and water and give me a drop because the water represents the holy spirit and we're seeing that nothing has changed in this person's life and this is one of the biggest lessons i think is a believer. We have to see that a lot of times believers think that you really don't have to overcome this life that you know y'all way will understand. Did he knows them human. You know he knows it and everything will just be okay. Because i rest on saturday and i keep the feast every year. And that's not the case we see here is that the rich man was resurrected the same way as when he died it was a second tiny and now we see that he still has no desire for spirit. He's not saying. Give me the spirit you saying. Give me a drop and this should scare us that we see the same thing in our life. That if you're not with the way if you're not an over comer if you're not bearing fruit and you die today you're going to be the rich and you're gonna wake up and you're next moment is getting ready to go into that lake of fire because there's no changing your life and man we have no idea. We don't know if today could be your less day. There has to be a change in life. you can't keep putting it off putting it off putting it off. There has to be a change because if you keep putting it off putting it off. You're never going to do it. And you'll be the rich man. You'll be filming of that. And then abraham chelsom you know that in his life he had the good things all he cared about with the physical things he's basically reaping what he's showing in. Elliot's starts getting his reward and then he tells them beside all these things twenty six. A great chaz has been fixed between me and you and those desiring to pass from here to there are not able nor can they pass from so here. It is in the white fro. Judge remember what we read in in revelation. Twenty verse four and five and six. The second death has no power over you if you're the first resurrection so the people in the white throne judgement. They can't pass over into the kingdom. Where abraham and the first fruits are because they're owned the lake of fire. So there's a great chazan that's there. Let's there because the ear wages is death which they're going to. In abraham in the first root twitches is eternal life is a spirit being then. It's very interesting which shows that this is a parable for judah and the jews that are non belief in that. There's not a second way to salvation. There's not a back doorway for the jews to come to salvation. Look what he says he says for. I have five brothers so that he tells them sent to my father's house. he's not realizing that everything's over. He's not realizing because like. I said one minute. He's there in the next minute he dies and the next minute. It's thousands of years later and these resurrected. He has no idea how much time has passed. And he's saying. I have five brothers and go to my father's house. How many brothers did you to have right. There were twelve tried to this room. How many brothers do have he had. Five brothers lay. Had six boys judah and five other boys so without a shadow of a doubt. This is talking about judah in the bible induce so he says i have five other brothers also five is the number of race issues grace because look what he says he says but no if someone went from the dead. They'd repent and look what said to him in verse. Thirty one if they do not listen to moses and the prophets than they would not listen or believe even if someone would rise from the dead. They wouldn't believe and that's exactly the jews today. Say believing in moses and the prophets and yet they don't believe in you sure when all the prophets talk about him so this. Three hundred messianic prophecies all pointed to shula as the messiah and they're not following it. They're not falling in your shoe senator. He said you know who will be your judgment day. Said i'm not gonna judge you most is going to shoot because most prophesied deuteronomy eighteen fifteen. You know that there will be a profit like onto him. So moses prophesied of your show up and yet these people say they believe in moses and they didn't believing so when you really look at this parable it is so clear. There's no way misinterpreted what this parable is talking about. Your way is using. Elliot's are or to the. Greek lazarus as a parable for the gentiles set of being grafted into the covenant through abraham. You could read the book of relations in the book of romans. You see the same thing. And he's using the rich man as a example of the juice who are not accepting issue a sacrifice and many are going to go fire. So that's that's the whole parable is about nothing about going to heaven and certainly there is a gehenna burn. Fire there but this man is not any yet. he's not even in the fire as of yet so it's it's a purple. It's being taught here. So i actually have a home message online on this. Just this terrible unless richmond or liaison the rich man you can listen to go into a little more in depth than some of these things but clearly there is nothing in this parable that would contradict anything that we've been going over of the debtor asleep in the grave. There are two resurrection first. Resurrection of the first fruits. That get immortality eternal life and then the white throne resurrection where people are either going to be in the book of life or they're going to go to a fire and burn and ceased to exist and that'll be it but nothing of a great Burning hellfire that's that's there so somebody people have a false concept of hell because they do not understand. You always mr plan of salvation. The obedient will be given the free gift of eternal life but the disobedient must be paid the wages they have heard the wages of sin is death. It is the final death in the lake. Fire these are the two alternatives. A y'all we places before each of us this true should not inspire unreasoning tara or as the idea of eternal punishing in hellfire has caused so many people on the other hand to fire. Should stand as a warning to all who know you always way of life and still stubbornly refused to obey it and less they repent. They will burn luke thirteen. you know. The people eighteen people to the towel fell inside loan where they were sanderson others. They're not worth centers. Nothing happened but unless you repent the same will happen to you so unless we repent and we change the same will happen. You have now proved for yourself that the the idea of everlasting hell is clearly not grounded in the bible but was a manmade doctrine of the medieval era that is not supported by scripture. So points to remember here. The bible does not support a hellfire where people burn forever the debtor asleep waiting. The resurrection is appointed for all wants to die. And then the judgment. We're all will stand before the judgement seat to messiah. And the righteous will inherit eternal life and the centers will be judged so That is our study on hell. And the words like i said you have she all you have which is the grave or hades. You have toros. We didn't really get into that. But it's just the place of confinement for the demons fallen demons and you have gehenna like afire. Where the encouraged. The wicked will go in the second resurrection. The white throne judgement they will cease to exist so we will be having an almost life service tomorrow on a very interesting subject on the mark of the beast and with all the things going on today. i think it'll be very eye opening to understand in more detail what this technology is what they're doing with it what it means to us as believers and why we should be leery of it so like i said we probably will be doing a bible study next of chabad because we'll be doing studies on sabbath and vote but hawks amac to everybody. I hope you have a great shop. Vote wherever you are and yellow willing. We will also so y'all we bless you all and show bachelor.

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Storyteller Conclave  Episode 32 Player vs Environment

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Storyteller Conclave Episode 32 Player vs Environment

"You're listening to the podcast visit WWW dot casted troy dot com before information brands swapping the episode thirty two of storyteller conclaves to show all about helping you run the best tabletop roleplaying game that you can whether you're new storyteller or dungeon master learning the craft or inexperienced syrian storyteller looking to take your game to the next level i am sarah i'm rob hey so last week yeah we have that question from madoff i think we should spend twenty eight minutes talking about it from twitter between twenty eight and thirty six minutes i average so the medal vows he he asks so how do you use whether as an element of your storytelling and yeah we're gonna spend a good long show because we have opinions and some new ones actually so we're happy to have you listeners on the chat line here with us knocks especially i know we've got a few you other listeners listening in on that i noted on the general chat as well i think it was sam out there who's listening as well yes i will pay him all all right so we are we came into this with one mind frame i think yeah and i think even today we left with more oh sure sure so we've got lots unpack there there's a lot to unpack it because i mean the the environment is just a big thing and there's so many things out there that nature tries to used kill us on a moment basis that aren't bandits no definitely only not and and i think when i started this i started with the mind frame much like a video game 'cause i usually try to go to the visual elements and so i thought about like okay what are the typical typical things that you run into and then i started looking out further at what other people had been discussing comments and things that are seen and i ran across a plethora throw ideas and then we're way beyond what i was thinking oh yeah so we're going to try and break down somebody's in in like literally open windows and doors fee to look out into the world of ideas yes so i'm going to start with the little things the things that you're probably not thinking of when you're running a game that has environment environment and that you don't think about a day to day basis but really does make a difference NPC's are going to act differently based on the situations they're in i mean if you literally are in a desert and the sun is beating down on you and there's a little village there that are tense or maybe adobe huts or whatever there are going to be days when those people do i don't wanna talk to anybody or even step outside there's there's a reason the concept of siesta happened you know because it was like oh it is somewhere around high noon we are not going outside inside and drinking beer you walk into town with broken arm and walk over to that armor smith and it's one hundred and ten degrees outside they're like hey dude fixes he's going to be like you eh go take a hike those will get to it tomorrow when it is one hundred ten degrees tonight maybe he only works at night because that's the only time he can you know so if it's pouring rain you're not gonna get the lady of the manor to come visit you leaving her house that ain't that ain't happening so you know that could be a you know a honestly huge storms yeah we'll just put a lot of things on hold because nobody nobody likes being out in the storm you got the high winds the rain lightning right you know possibly other things like aol and whatnot that's not really the ideal conditions would be launching assault on her and in just the o- tr- of that there's nothing that doesn't say a certain gods connection to a cleric orion be elemental toll i mean if you've got a you know someone who's following talos the thunder exactly and like literally you're you're you're open to seeing that morning because let me last night he did something great great and it's time for the god to present him with some kind of a sign and you open up with the storms at the edge of the cliff are limited crashing the waves up higher and higher as jets of white shoot up the rain pouring down as dark ominous clouds come thundering there are going to be a on cinema damn ten today i'm going outside of rain while you're cleric walks clean out into the rain practically naked waiting to be struck shouting up at the sky going i am ready students best shawshank redemption propre impression eh you it gives those moments but you don't necessarily think about that as a story telling them that can shift and lightly justice give flavor at that slight slight thing but monsters are the same way you know you you go you know fight orcs on a bright sunny day maybe they're not going to be there letting you think they're really going to hate that talking trolls turned to stone in sunlight yeah you know i mean things like that like you might not find them right dragons in thunderstorms not gonna happen we'll any aerial creature on pretty much like a high winds windsors can screw with any flying creature yeah and likewise likewise if you're if they're out doing survival checks maybe they're out maybe your group is out wandering around and they failed survival check instead of saying you can't find find anything you can say you feel a storm coming in and you recognize that maybe they're all going into cover yeah so that changes the whole scene on what they can do but then gives them a a no end scenario you know it gives flavor to y you know they're not just shitty hunters because they've been doing this most their life right stead there's elemental situations that change the fate you know it's just a slight difference in it gives you a little i would say better angle than just saying no you suck you know all right so you've described your big storm you got that whole thing's role as rolled through mhm so what are some after effects i mean storms don't go away and leave everything tidy no think about your day to day life how many times you've got in your front yard and pick up you know the neighbor's the tree off of the front of your you know well not only that rain is great for being able to tracking really well but a full-on john storm is going to drop debris maybe the season you're gonna head of leaves everywhere so it's going to cover your tracks trees might come down blog slide yeah you know oh now now that little river that was just lightly bothering you the last time you came through able to pass over is a literal torrent of mud and debris and that's that's a whole encounter by itself like if you're if you're doing like the typical dungeons and dragons adventuring day yeah you know that right there that's an encounter you don't need goblins at that point it complicate things just figuring out how the hell are we going to get five adventures fully laden with gear and our cart over this washed out bridge torrential thing that we were able to just ford across a day ago exactly or worse yet you're being chased by something yeah yeah we'll cross the river and oh no we're not no we're not that was a mistake dake we shouldn't have either detour replant our feet and we fight our exactly fighting on cliff sides in snowstorms or recent snowstorms now you've got loose snow i know everywhere your footfalls are different you can't see the edges of things yup now at lenox checks are different because it's challenging hell we're dealing with this tonight in in detroit today is what the teens or something like that for anybody who's going on celsius celsius listening to this that's probably what down in the negative single digits somewhere so you know not exactly the coldest but not exactly pleasant either no adventuring in this you know it's not gonna be great and you're gonna be you know having to make saves against the weather or you know spending some resources is to make sure that you stay stay comfortable yeah and that's that's one of the things that a lot of people i think lose track of as you're moving through a campaign you're moving clean through environments and the same gear that you're wearing in temperate plane is going to be graphically different in a jungle where things are are sweaty and grind like leather other straps burrow into your skin can i tell my revenge story oh by all means okay so i joined rob's campaign a little bit late a a lot of plot had already happened in the we're kind of on chapter two of the plot where the are already established adventures were going to do something with the magical artifacts that they that they already we had one of the things that they need to do was go through the mountains and so i- introduced my character as a straight up wizard and focused largely loosely on ice magic and she was a biscuit mountain guide yeah who had made it her life's goal to master the winter are and the cold her father died of exposure he was a caravan driver and she'd basically decided that she was not going to go out the same way he was so harnessing magic to make i'm sure that the winter was never going to be her fo so they hire her knowing that she knows these mountain passes they need to go through and she thirdly the capital city the elves and she says all right if i'm going to join your party i'm gonna take you through want to make sure that you have some basic equipment and stuff of that so everybody go put on your what you believe is your winter gear and she phrased it like that what you think is your winter gear right and meet me in the courtyard in fifteen minutes so everybody dead and he's we're talking like seasoned adventures the heroes of the realm here rape all gather up in the courtyard and she goes okay so everybody bundled up yep good and casts sleet storm on them which lasts you know she shut it off after about twenty seconds or so dismissed it and basically the entire party was identifying like what the hell was that she's sorry anybody who's shivering right now anybody who thought that was hell needs to understand that's the weather about about every other day where we're going so if you're cold you need better gear meanwhile the organ the parties is like that was fantastic awesome awesome i miss that so yeah it's it adds that element of true fear into those players i i was reading one of the ones one of the stories where players were teleporting from one place you know they had a portal to portal situation and the DM's like okay so you're going to false ad right yeah the the winter keep uh-huh you're you're teleporting yeah looks down at all their character character notes oh okay they literally the first person you know clears the teleport gate at basically is on the other side i'm like are just started making them do saves instantaneously sleep because they were all still wearing basic adventuring gear and they just showed up on one of the highest peaks and of course the teleport pad isn't inside it's on the edge of this cliff with browsers around it it's like a holy relic of a spot can be damaged by where it's at its hi so it can't be taken just one of those places up on a mountain were just casual blizzard most the time yeah i mean it's it's protected well enough but still it's the top of an effing mountain cold is how and so literally they were dying from exposure the moment they stepped through the delta porter you guys told me you want to go there yup yup and this doesn't we we don't wanna limit this to you just say you know DND in that kind of thing this applies to every system like shelter run has some set rules to seven even has some rules for but that doesn't it doesn't tell you howled NPC's can react so always kind of keep the effects and the times in your head but there's also some extra layers that sit just beyond that that you start throwing into how things change so for instance when PC's these are walking into situations that do have changes it's more than just uncomfortable for everyone some of those players might be fine fine with it and you can set those things on your side and know how does pleasure out like ravana was really good with coal regarding our current game is is is a master of the north is a norseman so he's fine with the cold but the moment that we stepped into the sweaty hot days of summer he's mel tease miserable almost twenty four seven you guys go into this recent dungeon it's like fifty degrees because it's like under a gigantic hill and he's like oh finally we're all the rest of your like uh sucks in here and he was perfectly fine with it but it steps through as you move through so for instance if it is a season is in you're working in and you know what that season is of course you could do some random and there are some some good tools will talk about a little later that really helped with that but say so you're adventures are moving up a mountain pass and it's it's gentle gentle winter down in the planes you know maybe a little dusting of snow you know kids are plane and having a good time because whether it's not so bad but the moment they start moving up that pass to get into the mountains just like it is out west which we don't see here in michigan but some of our players in different parts of the world may recognize this passes get treacherous really quick and that weather can change on a mountain in an instance has the storm storm hits the mountain and basically dumps everything they don't it doesn't make it over it it doesn't change the simply this actually happens and you can end up with a ton of snow oh up higher in the altitudes that you didn't see down on the ground yeah not that's why the whole mountain pass thing then you know because because when you're moving between into mountains there that's that's where all of it's going to be and also you once you get above a certain point it can get pretty dry malt but try not so bad when you come down home and it's still that cold that area below can get quite icy nasty you cut through that cloud layer you're walking through those clouds those moisture filled clouds and it can change the fog that's literally ice level fog as you're trying to go through it you've got sleet coming down or ice you've got black eyes situations if they're moving at night that makes it even more treacherous i mean these are the kinds of things that i'm bridge maybe yeah i always say mickey every time i ever overseen unabridged came from a friend of mine and it always sticks in my head bridge may be itchy so so yeah exactly it's you you you have to keep that in mind that azure adventures are moving through through those climates and changing terrain or changing through at elevations it's going to change with them and they may not be quite quite prepared for those changes now keep in mind to these things are kind of an aspect of gritty realism yeah i grew i mean there are times when you can you can plan dan like i said he had as your encounter like there will be a storm and that will be your obstacle rather than throwing another batch monsters at you and that's and that's cool that's that's good adventuring venturing lake very chills or low fantasy thing to do but like just just be aware that there are all these great things you can do with with the environment to kill kill your players but maybe you know if you're not playing that gritty realism game don't make them die of exposure every time they walk out the door you know so it's these are all great ideas but use them in moderation exactly exactly so a few things things that then you just kind of think of as general atmosphere yeah whenever you're writing up your descriptions for an area let's say you know your players are going into a town think about the weather where are they what's the general climate right if they know what the season is you know maybe the sun is in a certain spot like you know up in alaska ska it's sunny all the time in the summer and really not so much noise dusk at all times you know so keep that kind of frame in your head a little bit it 'cause it can add a lot of flavor as they moved to different areas they can feel a lot of relief one of the big things about seven see when you take people actually out on the sea is the seas he is exceptionally unforgiving and it can be horrified until you finally get to some reports and feel that safety opinion off the sea away from the wind and away away from that those elements be too hot or too cold or too windy you know and really give them a sense of comfort so that kind of brings that shelter term moment back to the story where your players can feel that level of comfort and can come back to just they're part of the story layers part of the story and know that they are safe and within something and that adds that sense of of ticks point of tension away from them by moving through those things like you had put in here about i wanna say the bone-dry kind of elements of badlands oh yeah i think is is something that's often forgot that when you go there if you're not prepared water wise it can be very harsh as harsh as walking in hot desert oh yeah you know his there's just nothing there there's no moisture that makes it in and now the interesting thing to the happens in badlands like that where you have no moisture is if you do end up getting a storm that rolls through mhm lake the ground does not have enough time to absorb it because it's hard mud cake like it needs to soak in a lot of water and if it dumps in i'm very fast you end up with flash flooding yes and so you'll what you'll end up with is like what looks like a dry riverbed hey that's great road to travel on oh yes just go down the dry riverbed and then all of a sudden you hear crack of thunder and a whoosh and that's all the time you have before you hit the wall of water yeah you know it's a true ambush you you know if they failed their perception checks you've been ambushed by water yep and just have to deal with that in now now they're dealing with a full on encounter that has initiative but there's there's no monster it's just the monster of water yep and things getting swept down at them and they've got to find high ground in new york it could be an could be an exciting scene yeah i mean again you're your failed athletics roles to try and swim aren't necessarily failure on their part it could be a log that hits them it could be you know rocks that are catching their feet or or or i should say routes that they as they get drug by them catching their feet and dragging them under briefly or or the rapid erosion of the of what is now the shore yeah they're scrambling up prefer cover trying to get out of the water and it's just getting eaten waves torrential torrential flood exactly so there's things like that but there's i mean i know we talk a lot about the weather because the weather is a big thing capricious enacts a lot of changes interesting stuff that but i think there's a lot of like environmental like just static like the land itself can can do some really interesting things we mentioned badlands since you know and and the fact that there was an absence of water there but also things like swamps you know swamps wants just like they're just nothing but mud and water you know the whole time and you know for forget things like alligators and whatever else might be lurking swamp this we're not talking about mariners you know but just the idea that you need to traverse a big wetlands like that you need a special craft get over it or for slogging through it on foot we're talking like you know an indian determines difficult terrain the hallway literally everything is difficult terrain levels of exhaustion just in mogadishu you know small amounts of land there's a there was a a game that involved i want to say it was like twenty two thousand that talked about a setting where you had working through jungles like in vietnam dude get problems with your feet and so are they kind of developed an exhaustion twice element with a up and that totally add onto that kind of thing and i totally agree another thing that knocks brought up that i that we're kind of missing on this is just the simplicity of light the moon you know is it a full moon is that a concern is it less of a concern is no moon any any you know if you're really going to be tracking you could be like okay earlier survival check oh there's no moon tonight you've no light to track by just that at simple it's it's nothing horrible just today's a crappy night to try and do anything yet you know oh yeah the blood moons of course so yeah i mean those kinds of elements elements give your players more setting but also create effects around them and give you some different ways to kind of say no and and during your story yeah you you didn't succeed but here's what what your act here's why right right you know so that kind of brings us to two major things that can happen that i think we can lose track of for instance what happens wins if you're trying to track something in a snowstorm now you've got penalties and different systems handled different ways and fifth addition like you were saying to me was that they try to simplify everything and make it very quick thinking yo and i don't know if you wanna expand on the low just kind of the fifth addition and especially in contrast to like third in three point five edition again i'm not really speaking on fourth because they never played it yeah but you know in in previous editions and then pathfinder especially because pathfinder was basically three point seven five you're talking about going from a number crunchy system to kind of a more fast and loose system br i wanna see fast and loose basically mean that like the rules are there definitely but they're kind of intended just be used broadly and applied however you think they should be applied rather than an advantage disadvantage disadvantage on what skills actually cover break things like that lake you know there there's no real rules for a lot of things and they're just kind of covered under weld that would probably be an acrobatics check question mark ensure that's that's what the rules are meant to be there they're they're light and they're just meant to basically say roll die adjudicate the the the outcome oh come of it and move the hell on you know ram and so i think you know for for a lot of like fish and stuff you know if we're focusing on that you know you're looking at it disadvantage on a lot of things survival trucks and whatnot but yeah so but it doesn't just go go against the players so for instance like this log into the mud they might be at you know disadvantage for making any athletic space chest they might be slowed you know they might be at half speed because it's difficult terrain you know but that also says that they're going to be creatures that are gonna use that to their advantage they may wait oh absolutely drought you you in a situation like that and so that's when you can have ramped up encounters with the very simplistic things you know now that you're trying to make your way through the desert cert and you're on open terrain and you're exhausted because it's been two days those buzzards that you thought were you know real small are actually quite ready to come and get you they were harmless three days ago when you didn't have three points of exhaustion right and you're at disadvantage to everything and at half HP right yep yeah now oh you're now you're easy pickings and they like live when you're when you're slogging through that swamp and everything's difficult terrain for you right it's not difficult difficult terrain for the dire crackle crocodile exactly exactly you know or you're working through a loose terrain and you've got something that burroughs oh yeah you know so everything for you is considered challenging you know in your at half speed and disadvantage it's just popping up out of the ground right next to you yet without without a problem you're you're bogged down in winter gear and trying to slog through a blizzard in your snow blind and you can't fire arrows because of the gambling wins right and then the winter wolves come out because they don't care and they're they have advantage on the stealth so yeah and then changes changes in rooftop in things like rooftops that you know normally the players could you know dance through a city rooftop to rooftop now there might be covered in ice and and snow certain angles are super treacherous buildings that would normally be you know relatively ok shelters now collapsing based on snow weights and things like that so now you've got these caves that suddenly become the outer edges than become dangerous because there there's literally snow everywhere or ice or mud you know hey you're players go into the cave for coverage but they don't realize it's filling with water you i know high seas are coming into the cave that your group's digging treasure out of so now instead of just a couple of inches of water and high for high tide there in and feet of water yeah you know and now it's getting dire because the mouth of the cave was only so open so those kind of things can really change the environment environment the the other things that i was thinking about is you've got a dry area you end up casting a spell you could you know fire spell you could start a f- a flash fire story about that set dinner yeah so there were players who were at town and the last little encounter they they had one of the players i think has burning or something and ended up catching the wheatfield and the fields on fire and he immediately had them start going into basically a toxic set where they were having real constitution just talk because of all the smoke will by the end of it you know players are covering their faces to help compensate for that but using sign language it wouldn't have to speak halloween people and using inference casting spells became very complicated on one of them because verbal components you have to you have to speak along full sentence young and it made it very challenging the only way they ended up getting out of that one and fighting some very simple people people who were who some pants came in that they thought they could just mop-up with spell suddenly became super challenging because every spell they had to make a constitution safe yeah to to try and breathe and they would lose the cell because hath roosevelt adam coughing or something so it was it was more challenging because of the environment that was wrapped around i and they had the risk of fire yeah constantly so so you can also use i think we got down here here you know just not even making a dangerous encounter of like you know case of someone someone might die here doing damage or complicating an already you know a a combat encounter lake lake fighting crocs in the swamp or winter wolves during blizzard or something like that but honestly also just to kind of an act world changes yeah just broad strokes lake you know we talked about mountain passes snowing over will okay maybe the maybe the you know the the party doesn't get caught in that snowfall snowfall ins not a big dramatic encounter there but what if the mountain passes just snowed over well i want to get from point data point being i can't tell a port so now what yeah it's just it's just a story complication but it changes the overall world and it makes the world a living breathing place you know that fire that took got all those crops that is eventually gonna lead to less crops and possibly famine conditions in that area now you've got bandits going after what food they can get right or even other creatures i mean this those are the kind of moments where you're like you know i i would say from lord of the rings were like why are the trolls coming out of the mountains they never come into the lowlands wire why are they here now yeah they're getting pushed out of their environment why you know now your players have a reason for their you know if you're making up an encounter think about those types of things because there could be shifts that are currying i mean yeah if you're if suddenly tau if an area is getting better defended it's going to push those rogue elements it's those those parts that make things that go for the weaker lesser areas someplace else that's someplace else is somewhere yeah sometimes it's a murdered villager haunting getting their cave yeah some sometimes it's just sometimes it's just simple famine yep yeah and those kinds of things make sense you know and we've we often often forget about it yet momodou in our stories but it can do a lot one of the tools that i wanted to put out there that can help with this is if you haven't been to a dungeon engine tools d. o. n. j. o. n. dot been dot s. h. he's or they have a ton of tool sets in one of those is a random random weather generator now i'm not saying you need this for every game but it can definitely give a flavor if you're not sure yeah you know you just need something to help appeal like your your your players are waking up in a town near like crap i didn't even think about this you could bring it up real quick say hey i'm in i'm in a coastal area and it's spring spring and you hit the button and it literally gives you what the current weather is like like you're looking at their you know area code you know and it's it just makes it that much much easier for you to not think about it but also to add those elements and you know if you don't want if you're if you're not keen on using random generator to it's it's you you know pretty simple just to kind of you know quick internet searches can help you find you know what was sort of areas what sort of climates get what sort of you know precipitation asian on average and whatnot because most of us have an idea of somewhere on the globe that we think the players are the type of environment you know if your players are slogging through germany germany like place pull up berlin see what the weather is there today yep you know see what the winds like with the rains like it might give you a different feel for where players can you guys are tooling around in the the columbian highlands so you know looking up would what ireland is doing is you know it gives you that extra flavor so and so that just makes it a little bit easier versus using tool sets or anything like that but i mean you never know and all those little elements give players more vision in their minds i am a strong feel for where they are yup and that's were really trying to do here is we're trying to give as many of those little pieces to finally get a story that feels visceral and in in contact with the players not necessarily deadlier gritty that's maybe necessary if it's your style but just in contact with your players getting your vision into their heads you know fun little fun little tip that i like to use to by the way if you have a thunderstorm going on in the background there are and you have access to something like an alexa or go home you can quite simply just issue the command you know play the sound of thunderstorm there are a lot of ambient soundtracks soundtracks that like help you fall asleep generally or just as background noise from white noise chirping birds to gentle rain lapping waves leaves on the coast and stuff with that if you've got an environment that you want strongly prominent it's nice to actually just throw that on the background helps focus and for your players that have a hard time because maybe they've ever been to that environment and it gives them a little bit extra involved in it yeah like you know when people say you know well it's it's raining outside like is hard as it is as an rainforest and you put on some rainforest sounds it's loud yeah you know it's hidden every leaf on the way down and sometimes there's going to be parts with leaves are literally dripping down a whole will stream you know and that it makes noise yep so right you want to get onto some questions we got some really great question we do have some really great questions and i kinda wanna let's see if we can shift some of the environmental ones op okay and then we'll we'll hit the other ones because i wanna i wanna kinda keep in the mod art i trust you go ahead and grab all right so knox asks is there ever a time where you leave the environment conditions and whether up to the players via something like a percentile roll roll or other mechanic now i know this got discussed in channel because i immediately sent knox to madoff right who runs our mouths guard he runs mouse are game and there's literally a mechanic in mouse guard where the players can affect the weather right his dictate that weather when you are a mouse a minor down a minor afternoon and sprinkle of rain can create torrential rivers for yes yes because an inch deep is a big deal to a mouse it is and end mouse guard is a system sometimes needs challenges yeah you need to have challenges to have growth and so sometimes you want it to be a little more challenging yeah and that's that's just a way that you can do that i know there's a few other systems that do similar things that were there's some superhero ones that allow the the players to have some dictate on the setting the scene urban shadows does seem sets so you can literally say your town is in a crappy you know kind of london i didn't ask environment where it's always raining all the time you know and it's it's slogging so yeah there's definitely some mechanics there i think there are some palladium rules if i remember correctly in the random role charts that they have there were players can set there are our can make roles to see what the weather conditions are like on a certain journey right i think he kinda kinda the same way that it works mouthguard where you're you're predicting the weather you're right and so if you roll high enough on your weather prognostication your weather watcher skill as it's called mouse guard you get to then basically say okay we'll i predict checked the weather will be raining tomorrow and then that becomes something in the story because you're right when you say it that's what the closest i can think of to allowing the the players to dictate the weather typically i mean unless i were running something like mouthguard can in my game i i wouldn't do that simply because i like having control of it as a story element so unless there's some look i had a druid casting control weather or something i don't think it would happen but there are the times that the the the system calls for it and it's really fun when it does gear artless shift onto overwatch because he's got another one where we go to knox because that's going to be fun an older knocks question because that opened both of us up for both of us both was fanned a little bit at it go ahead for the overwatch all right so overwatch asks storms as a factor actor of the game random tables inclement weather these are time honor tabletop systems from the early days can you think of an aspect that has been missing an environmental mental slash setting aspect games that is underutilized in storytelling or historically has never had a mechanic is there any place where you've seen something like that implemented the two things that came to my mind when i read this the first one was fog okay that fog is rarely used in games yeah more than just obscuring and causing problems seven c. had some sea-based fog that was seriously again foggy at unsee is deadly especially in combat because you don't see the rocks until you're already there or moving up on a ship yep yeah and there are some ships some some things that a player can do to make fog happen but it it's something that doesn't get often used in these usually really lost off charts so fog can happen in cold and hot in in all kinds of enviro yeah so i think it's i think it's a element that gets lost an an environmental law like hazard that gets lost in a lot of things i thank you for reminding me of that because i've been trying to work on my my my weather stuff and that's that's a great point i i'm just thinking back when the last time i've even thought about fog as condition yeah i really can't and the second one that always gets me that i've only seen really described well once is moon phases like the moon phases where it's kind of forgotten that your players are not always keeping a torch just above their head or a lantern just out in front one of them they're using ambient light and sometimes you have to move through the dark and it means a lot when there's no moon yeah you know something like if you're stalking somebody in the dark and it is a dark night yeah they're hooded lantern their light may only cast a very small area yeah you know maybe five six feet feet around them and that's it anything off in the distance is just going to be a little shimmer of light to them at best and keeping mind to that like ambient conditions aw will change the light levels lot to lake in winter when everything is coded and snow it's a lot easier to see at night than the the exact same conditions ends in in like the spring or summertime right now at and i will say this knox does have one interesting point here and that is environmental hazards asserts that our results things for instance scurvy if you don't have the fruit on ships in seven see that's actually legitimate thing that can have that as a legitimate and so i i do agree that is that is not loss i recognize that was out there but yeah do anything come to mind for you i think for me i don't think i had an answer to this until the other night we were playing arc arc survival together and there was i i saw a yellow cave and i was like go what's in there and it was like three people simultaneously we're like don't go into the cave 'cause it's apparently radiation zone yeah and it got me thinking like i don't know the last time in a tabletop the game or if ever we've ever had just a just a static environmental being in this place will kill you sort of bug city eddie bug city folk city was the only was the first place that came to mind i don't i don't remember bug city was part of your game that before i for joined shera era has bugged city oh chicago yeah yup i never i never had occasion to play in that setting so it radiation zones spores ores yeah so it was the first thing that came to mind when is that you you look at moments like that and you're like oh that's a nasty area yeah yeah exactly and it it really was it it had all of those kinds of elements to it and they were live and living in that city but it really doesn't happen in many other places you don't see it in other especially DND like idea of spore clouds can off of of terrain right you know you know because it's spring so all the sports came out we'll that's where do you think those talks come from now i did i did have in my my own homer setting that i that i cooked up back in my high school old and college days there was a large region that i call the torpoint forest because i was unoriginal and torpedo cool word onboard but guess what happens when you go in there now mind you it's only humans right it's a biological verve and elves completely unaffected what it is is that the there are a tropical sort of region so there's never a winter where the trees are not going to be in full bloom and the it's a prevalent plant there called the butter sweet tree that the pollen has a narcotic effect on on human biology and so not only does it cause humans go in there almost instantly just fall asleep and of course once they're asleep unless they've got some to drag them out they're just they're you're now and they will sleep themselves to death because i mean you know stop eating stop drinking right but what do people do especially elves will collect butter sweet pollen and use them as basically blow guns that's fantastic nate they pack little little cloud blow guns basically just right right right right in your face and you're out yup simple all right the one thing that i will agree on i read over watches i thought about knox's knox's next question okay this one got me without a doubt and made me really think and that is if we treat large crowds as environmental hazards and combat what are some and better ways of utilizing them individual roles probably out of the question so it's better to have them as swarm character in smaller groups as one large group like a layer environment action shen the moment that he brought up crowds like oh my god that is an environmental we literally like type to each other in all caps like did you see knox yes i do you love it we did bring it up because it was a huge thing unpacked but it is brilliant honestly i i went looking for rules for it and there are some out there and certain systems are our our crowd base rules for riots and for crowd control and things like that but mostly it's it's it's having fights in crowds dealing with that in the case of seven c- it is an environmental hazardous consequences for moving through crowd kurtz and what happens in crowds there are some elements elements of dealing with that with firearms you pull out a weapon in a crowd you get a response that changes the terrain that changes how you can and can't move through it yeah yeah so i think that's that's probably the thing that came to mind for me to was like e really depends on the mood of the crowd and the the big factor factor for me was whether or not the crowd is willing to die or suffer harm to remain where it is right and so if you're just talking like you you know bhai standards on street and like a busy market square in a village or something like that and all of a sudden you pull out your swords and start swinging that crowd is going to disburse i very quickly so you may only have that environmental hazard for one or two turns but if it's say may be a throng of fanatics who are gathered around their cult leader bright while navy they are there to die for him and you know that's gonna that's gonna cause all all sorts of different co it's part of that honor reputation loyalty kind of yeah well the whole like environmental hazard of han solo turning a corner and finding finding an entire room full of storm troopers probably not a good idea you know it's an environmental hazards that overpowered encounter that's i i think it was a little bit of both yeah you know sometimes it's it is a matter of environment 'cause you're not if you're literally swinging aimed or moving through the rafters of building an entire cult beneath you you're not gonna roll initiative for the entire call no but you're going to have consequences of them moving across asset room and if they fail how much you know what they're going to have to deal with to try and make it to the other side shows are not going to combat an entire room full of cultists shower shooting arrows they're firing spells or whatever you know firing rifles up at them you're but you're going to deal with that as an entire hazard gal situation so so i think actually i mean from the things that you can prompted in your question as far as dealing with it as like a score swarm character or a large group like a layer or an environment action action i think if we are talking about a large crowd of people i would definitely go with it as some sort of a layer action yeah i think that's great especially if we are talking like cultists who do want to remain there air and not disperse right at the first sign of danger well let me put it this way maybe this'll help i would say are they antagonised or are they environment it is that a crowd you're moving through your spy you're trying to catch up with another spy who's getting away from you and you're moving through a like a masquerade aide event maybe you're maybe you're in you know norlin stirring mardi gras and you're trying to catch up with this guy and everybody has masks and outfits and stuff often he's weaving in and out i think that is an it's not an antagonised that's an environment yeah yeah so that's that i would handle as an environmental hazard where we're on the other hand is if i come into a scene where a masked like all the other cultists than i'm trying to get up to assassinate somebody and the guy catches my eye and in point set me now i have a room full of antagonists yup i think that is a swarm i think that's that's where they become the antagonistic force and i'm i'm not gonna roll i may use them as one entity yeah yeah towns ever see you might need my call that one or two squads yeah definitely or maybe three or four for depending on how yeah there's there's some riot rules for that if you do something like that where you've got you know once you've got a certain once you pass a certain number you're in riot squad size and that's when things really change i think for something like dungeons and dragons i would definitely go with like if we're talking about an environmental hazard we're looking at right you know difficult terrain across the board so all movement is halved through that area unless you got something that defies of rain and i would say anybody outside especially if it's a dense ends crowd look crowded market square i would say anybody outside of five feet of you has three quarters cover anybody beyond twenty feet has full cover looking at looking at the person in that space has that guess i agree i agree now if you wanna do it something like liquid talking about the swarm of of of angry cultists i might actually do that layer action you know you've got the the environmental thing of you know moving through them and stuff at that as difficult train gene but obviously putting like forty cultists on the board and rolling initiative for every one of them is you know chaos chaos so do the brute squad method of seventy ever any the question about that look it up or or consequently or a instantly do the do allaire action i don't know if you've had experience with layer actions not really but d- so what they do is they they go on shift twenty and typically you'll have a list of effects that they can do so essentially give give the cultists cultists a couple of different layer affects that they can do like you know attacking anyone within range of a certain cluster of them or something like that or maybe the whole group of them calls down some magical fact that does this and you cycle through them and so they're they're not really you know you might be able to kill them off you may be able to affect them with something like a fireball spell or something like that but you know as a layer action you just kind of throw them in an initiative twenty they do something that blanket inconveniences muses everybody on the field and you move on gotcha i i like that it's similar to the brute tactics yeah in the way that it works the way that seven seat does it is it is a grouping of individuals and their combined attack is just a straight number if they make their contact they do that damage if the player does a single dramatic hit on them it reduces their value and now that damage values down but they are still they're they're still concise thing right so it's it's definitely unit tactics it kind of falls similarly to were hammer in that's design yeah you know in routing is a thing in it too so but often it's not used unless there's severe reason for it right yeah brutes are brutes there to be expended yeah exactly all right we got one more question all right we have a new question from samantha yeah so smith asked us i welcome to the show welcome welcome if you are reading a campaign and crafting stories how do you make sure the prices for items uh-huh are fair for the variety of cities and leveled PC's that's a great question it's something simple it's something you don't think about economy is always one of those things that like like just runs me up a dam wall because on one hand i want to give you guys treasurer and make you feel rewarded but on the other hand it wants you to be able to buy your way out of every problem exactly but i think in the in the right sense it needs to be that way yeah you know if you've got a noble who's rich and his you know maybe they've gone adventuring and they've got come back to the same dirt water village after going into a keep and getting tons of gold because it was the the old lord of the land and they finally wiped it out when they come in there they're going to be treated like kings you know but also people are going to try and get a little money out of them yet they're gonna look for that because they now know it so i would say keep their reputation shen and mind as well as the quality of the area so if it's a low area you know economy wise maybe the prices are just just what they are in the book but if they know if those people in maybe just when they first come in bank a role for yourself if you roll high they're expecting some high prices is your role low maybe they're looking for money and they they just they they'll just take what they can get because maybe the last time it didn't work out for them and keep it that simple so so that you're not worrying yourself too much but just right at the top for the town let remind yourself to this town is a low economy town they're going to be hungry refer money so they're going to run at the bottom level prices the they might not have a lot though because of that third their stocks are low their lists are simple anything they can find is going to be even less than normal oh that's one of the things you had to keep in mind too is the amount of money that would be in an economy you walk into a small fishing village in you try to offload holy holy avenger they're not gonna have the fifty to one hundred thousand gold on hand just by a holy venture off you were going to be like i don't know you the fishing boat right you want to be our new mayor yeah i've got seven cows or they might just straight up look at you and go what the hell am i gonna do the holy avenger right holy avenger is great it's a beautiful sword so it's an amazing artifacts that i'm ought to be in the presence of but my family is on the verge of starvation bread do you have fish rush right and the other thing is that by doing that high low thing in this i'm stealing this from somebody but i can't remember if it was a reddit thread or not and i feel terrible about that is that you can basically basically say anything over a certain dollar value they don't even have yeah yeah you know but if you're willing to sell them something that's just above that so you know maybe they they come in to you come into a shop and you know they only have basic y you know basic foods rations maybe rope maybe some would you know maybe a ladder maybe some pecans if they're close silica a mountain area but that's it i mean it's it's pretty much nothing but you your characters may not i have a lot of money but they do have a nice mirror or a necklace and so now the shop keeps like we'll i'll trade you uh-huh because my daughter needs something for her wedding so i'll be willing to trade you for that and maybe they're gonna lose a little money on it but they'll get what they need yeah you no and that's that's where you can start playing with that but if you go to a high value area where literally the everything's available it's very rich town maybe it's the capital city and they go into a place in the league hey i got this holy avenger and the guy's like yeah yeah i got a basket full of them back here you know sh show me something real you know you know oh it's a big masterful story ory you going into a dungeon blah blah blah blah another thing to keep in mind too that if your players come around flashing a bunch of golden valuables in deep we're going to take notice and i'm not talking about being robbed i'm just talking about being nickeled and dimed by you know who are like oh well you can certainly afford this extra extravaganza against and if you're going to need to charge you a convenience fee and a stocking fee and of course there's the kings taxes the taxes of course and you know you know in in and that's when you can have those fleecy noble characters who are running the town come out and acknowledged these heroes does you know properly or maybe they're not so proper baby greece a palmer too you know so now they did if they don't come to them i suddenly there's these charlatans town these these rich folks kerr who are here ruining our area and suddenly you can't get get a room you might not be able to buy things or sell things the last thing i could think of to is never underestimate the the power of bartering you know so you can you can trade all sorts of things mother than gold things have all all sorts of different prices so like rob mentioned earlier you know possibly doing something lake trading for that mirror that you picked up the last dungeon or something like that or that ornate ornate goblet but it might also be something like yeah i can give these to you but i really have no use for a stack of coins joins look we don't ever make it into town to spend those coins and again i can't do shows or gems but what i do have is goblins burning my fields fields and rating them for for for the resources and that's taking food off my table so maybe you could go take care of those for me and i think that's where some like there's legitimate skills else for bartering and for socializing and some of those things can be a yes and situation really maybe you're sitting maybe maybe you're working with that that merchant and you're really trying trying to get the last few health potions he has from him and he's like i really can't sell all of these because there's going to be the people who are going to need some of these guys look like your stalwart and everything and they make their role and it's very successful maybe they make a twenty and you're like i don't want to just hand them these potions but the guys like you know and what happens is is that your player notices his daughter wanting something from you notices something hanging off a belt off of the side and that's your key you know you can get to that child and they won't say no to her so now you have an in and you can do something different you know and that's the kind of thing of like of being able to barter is not just about hey give me a better price but sometimes it's getting to know that person differently right using a different angle and that grants a little more access where the person say you know i don't have more of these to give but if you come back tonight i'll i'll try and see if i can whip up to more or no or even then the understand that if you buy these right now you're going to wipe me out of supplies so if anybody else comes to me in need they will be unable to get that that that aid right so i will sell these to you under the condition that you also go out and gather me some more materials so i can make more you know and it's just up the hill well you know we have we have a brief one day adventure to go maybe you know gather some things maybe there's some environmental hazards maybe some monsters or whatever up there you come back with a bundle verbs the potions and you've had an adventure right you've told a story right and maybe the daughter has to go because it's just the two of them young and he can't can't go up there and leave her alone here in town yep she's not old enough to run the shop but she seems to like you and i might feel okay with going with you guys instead of just with her my myself and fighting goblins becomes a whole new adventure when you're trying to when you're trying to defend a twelve year old girl correct well i hope that helped you sam and we always welcome questions like that they don't have to be on topic and pertinent everything any new questions are great i love i love the off the wall off topic questions russians and i i thought i thought 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032: What about Bob? Robert deMaine, our principal cello

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032: What about Bob? Robert deMaine, our principal cello

"Hi and welcome back to San Partners for life I am thrilled to be here not only with Akiko but our good friend and close Cali doc bob domain principal cello here they feel and we're actually we're right here in Disney hall the bowels of the hall are home away from home yeah add playing my grandpa playing the squeeze box so we put the accordion and it was very rustic so for my dad's side we had the sort of Barn dance of Russian immigrants to Chicago and they all played an instrument all six siblings played piano and another instrument and my mom was a cellist who's actually quite a fine fiddler in western Pennsylvania Oh wow yeah there's always there's always one in every family uh-huh co-players so music was kind of a thing in my family for a lot of generations my older sister she ended up Paul University in studying there and then she quit inexplicably but we get into that another time but my dad used to talk about his they say that and it was actually a section later on I found music and my sister's stack of music it's from the block prayer we've got Martin and I'm sitting second right next to him and then on the other side is you when I first came to the orchestra they had the Homa my dad was in the US army captain in the US army and everywhere might devastation my parents they had a kid so two of my sisters were born in Watertown ORC Fort Drum one of my sisters was born in Wichita near Fort Leavenworth worth BEC- prisoners and near Fort Sill in lot in Oklahoma I actually was born in Oklahoma City yeah but this is going to be fun got a lot of topics we could get into I know you didn't want to plan it out which is perfect but I figured we could start for those who don't know you already up in several of the episodes so no only in the best way and Yeah just I I knew when we started the show I knew that I eventually want Kinda briefly how you got here you grew up not on one of the coasts had in common with me I grew up in fly over country probably the rest of the red states so so that's where we ended up I'm the lone oak in the family I mean everybody always asks us like when did you know you wanted to be a violinist than yet I'm still kind of figuring that out but uh-huh how intense was the childhood did you end up going to conservatory that sort of thing well it it it's interesting because my mom's family was she's daughter Tesla's where you are instead so principal viola was on my other side had the deal was there they did that's something I've never seen before wrong seating number two that's right a she was a very fine cellist and I wanted to be just like I just worshipped my sister I still do so I used to sneak into a practice area and she would hey thanks for having me on I feel like I'm sort of your honore stamp partner because I sit next to you and the orchestra yeah actually I mean yeah the usual if everybody's the where dance type of music and the the French Canadian music from his side and my mom's side was the more buttoned up in cultured side Great Grandfather was a barn baseball so in third grade I was seven eight I think it was eight yep they had yeah the outside so so over there I don't care how it sounds yeah that's that's the best reason to sit concert let me try to play cello when I was little I remember the very first piece I played the cello was a piece called the Fart song that's that's another another story but Mary she was really my first inspiration to play the cello and so I kind of learned from her and I was more interested in right you don't get all the room you need as long as it's your good side that's right thank you for chatting with us today it's that we've actually your name is is that David Sanders like his legal from Chicago symphony grilling wrong seating number four right seating number one I mean shallows on the West put the to have colleagues from the symphony and that you know here thirty some episodes in and actually you're the first guest from the Phil Oh nice I'm on the on the shelf that's great basic but also my sense of humor and thinking about starting his sister wrote letters like that nobody's going to be right about me and my sister Marian the Fart Song but anyways towards the lyrics to this stuff of the string and I just thought that was the best and so she not only cultivated my higher sense for me and I played trumpet as well very badly and I also play piano so we can't lessons and and all that just like my mom's people so the there's a wonderful school music program you could choose a string instrument or you could choose of abandoned from an I I actually chose both the cello of course because I already sort of knew how to play so this is a piece of music the central section has passage on the C string really low and she used to sing these made up thirty years you haven't listened to the mall by half listening to all of them enjoying them so much instructor notice that I had some talent and he got me hooked up with the teacher to whom I owe everything absolutely every and you know despite that I I did well in music competitions and stuff like that and my teacher saw to it that I had a good instrument for the more important things like darker than Herald you know you see all these designer names but you don't see the ones who started you out and I recently I went to visit her and I brought her auditions and played pretty big debut concert when I was really young with Oklahoma City symphony she always use her cello which is a a modern Italian thing to her name is Jane Smith one of the finest string teachers in the world as far as I'm concerned I'm actually in the in the middle of writing an article and I'm hoping to pitch it to strings or Strand magazine instrument and at that point I was probably eleven twelve years old I was at her house almost every day getting piano lessons getting cello lessons and he wanted me to come study with him at juilliard or to study at Curtis and then take the train into New York and take lessons with him just like a game and she taught me everything and I had no idea that the thorough musical education that I was receiving and materialize because my parents were very modest means at that point in their lives and reflecting on their list of my my father was the first person in his do do honorable work you know the arts that wasn't That was an honorable that was an honest work you know what I mean so my teacher back in Oklahoma Jane Smith Hello my sister my sister played the cello my mother played when she was a child and it was a real beater I mean this this thing was awful and I grew up playing playing on that and as of Cari but because I was fed up with my parents fed up that you know sort of my dream was squashed by other dream is being a catcher for a major league baseball team but I know I don't have enough talent as an athlete and on New Year's managed to do well in school I somehow graduated taught my class and all that but my good Impreza of the starters always the closers that get the or a lot of the credit your most of the credit at least in in our business I can't use it kind of a base who was a she was a member of the Oakland Symphony and also professor at Central State University she dropped me as a student it was like losing a parent because she was so I stopped I stopped playing the Cello I hung out with my friends I did rotten things of the terrible kid terrible get acted out and no kidding anyway yeah that's it got hard for me when I had to like play two things at the same time I know appoint what was happening in why or did you just think she didn't like you anymore I understood means she she had to have her own and I was at the time but I really look at her as a second mother just to say to I mean even today I mean you can sit down and play piano you compose as well which we my my hero I was at eastern music festival and it was he teaching at that time he was at juilliard and before I think before that he was curtis but many years before were ill my father was dying of cancer my mom my mom had a stroke so it was it was a difficult situation as I went to Eastman expecting like you know it kind of thought that maybe you could go to eastman some great cello school and shortly after after studying with her pretty much quit the cello I just not be I was a burden I ended up taking lessons with his wonderful teacher in Tulsa named Cari Caldwell she's principal Tulsa Philharmonic who had ahead played cello in several years at least two and a half three years practice like mad I won the competition one like five grand inflexible you can have very well developed sense of perfect pitch in and zero relative I know plenty of crummy musicians perfect hello home with me and she used to lonely that instrument yesterday I was well she I I played I grew up playing on my my mother's what's up I entered one of these regional like multi-state music competitions it was pretty well known in the area in Wichita Wichita State University and oh fed up with my parents that they wouldn't buy me better cello and be were so myopic I don't know if that's the right word but everything works out and the Jews are stand with me and I decided to only play Eastman and I went to Dallas for the regional audition I did I couldn't afford a plane ticket to go at that point my parents ball analogy it's like you know the Mario Rivera yeah gets gets the win yeah and you know you see studied with Leonard Rose John and one of the judges of the competition was a voice teacher at Eastman Thomas Paul and he was really pitching Eastman and I had remembered Cari had at juilliard so basically it was arranged that I I had gotten accepted into both schools twelve and it did I sure can well what I remember when I decided piano was abused when it started to get hard Beethoven Sonata last movie I can't play that new disciplines are relative pitch in imperfect pitcher to completely different disciplines I think I mean relative pitches you know the ability to say entire family to go to college even graduate from High School and then he joined the military and he I think my father really wanted to follow in his footsteps and he he wanted me and who is now a cop in Oklahoma City and Brian he said to me if you don't go to music school I'm going to kill you I just want to go to overland State University aw execrable experienced the worst one of the worst experiences I had other than growing up Catholic Meghan into I'm an amateur both of those things but that would never moore's end to yeah we don't do those things I mean you it could turn over that stone who has the time right I like to do more almost failed piano so story about that now this okay so I worked at a veterinary clinic around the same time invest being paid under the table to clean cages study with Ron Leonard my predecessor here the he was a professor at Eastman for many years before coming out here and so that name just sort of stuck for two weeks clean out animal cages why did they did put me on latrine duty I was pretty far I'm always thinking Washington Post March go back or forward from marking the about one twenty the hunting I know it sounds like it's right I think it's actually the end of April heading this does sound a little end said hi I'm a new crew member of Brahms ice cream translated hi I'm going to F. up your order Yep I guess the only ninety percent of his perfect pitch so I'm imagining you guys should do a poll yeah let's go next podcast white button-down shirt short sleeved shirt starched brown apron and the new the new employees were this big green you're standing at TSA there's there's no TSA pre for ice cream lines so okay so everybody had to wear most people got to take their pins off after about a week I made you keep an eye on yeah so I was absolutely inept so forgive me for steamrolling over your story this is a so okay orders the nice lady it's the musicians that have perfect pulse that I'm jealous of I can't pick a poll I know we shouldn't have sweating bullets and I have to set the tempo it went all over the people meet it was it was a typhoon of Dexter kill room down the food chain there it Oklahoma it's like one hundred ten degrees like every day in the summertime and the line the line was at just zigzag out the door and it's called bronze but it's it's nice game starts here did you but I'm sure that you didn't have the same experience be put in remedial this and remedial that but like I tested out of all the things will share theory most of us in the orchestra around two members of the orchestra not to have perfect pitch kind of like you don't need perfect pitch to play in tune which is true well that little movement and so this bumble the timpanist got like a half Barra head and the orchestra it just it sounded like take two to two masters rate one line so when I was twelve years old I got to play for Leonard Rose for the first time in he was chocolate and vanilla side by side and a cup and I said sure and I want I just did the twist and I gave it this is a twist I asked side by side there is absolutely and up because I I get nervous I'm just you WanNa do it exactly right and it's like the standards that the Metal Cup directly in the Plastic Cup put the plastic odd fired on the spot really it was the worst and Best Day of my life Cherry soda some other stuff and I stick it on the those old fashioned shake machine the blades I hadn't put it soon so I always had a job like soda jerk then and call him back I worked I worked at a fifty at an ice cream store movement and the audience was I was getting caught with your pants down it was possibly the worst moment onstage wow about the yelled out because I confused I didn't know what side by side was and so this was and they had one of them came and says I want Kord that was like from like Satan's blowhole it was horrible at it just it ended aww became a priest I mean I was like really drifting these Nathan you really never in an orchestra that I that I have witnessed some pretty awful things happening by the hiatus you took that I think because I okay because we were talking to someone else who was talking about a kid and saying wow that kid can be anything he wants to be and I was thinking well not that any whatever came out and I feel like I had a similar well I I didn't know what I was going to do I mean I played I took up guitar and Bass Guitar and writing songs and actually at that point music at all it never left me I just I was a really really good kid growing up until I reached about that age there was a there was in my first principal Gig at Hartford was situated rescue came to conduct soms Beethoven four and you'll have a tip you went ever all over all the ice cream you know has the sneeze cover for the employees all over that they went all over the grill imagine with your customers starting now I can think of slow movement of a symphony or something and you just start like so and ended up being a decision anyway so but Yale and then I was just done with school I was sick of being in school and in the in the meantime I had gotten into in tomorrow okay Beethoven Beethoven Ives was an hundreds stuck his hand put his hands by and this God you had a reason for us for me it was just like I just didn't like doing it anymore it's coming up right now but I mean you obviously there are like a family reason for you to just for something else do yeah it was roll more than it was about teacher usually because I might have gone to study with starker at Indiana but I decided to go to it's like a Cherry Soda Okay all right Theresa grabbed the thing grab the cup to soups of ice creams sprite or seven up again yeah so it's funny how I just kind of made my way back but it ended up going going to Eastman and then after Eastman I went to Yale that was about Shea had sort of reconnected with David Soyer at that point and that was you know you know breathing in that that atmosphere they're getting to play with gala Mir in Schmidt set it but I think the understanding was wow there's there's one thing you can be a good way to let them but you never lost I mean you like the one thing that I thought gave my life a little bit more meaning and channel connected just music in general I mean I never really left I just got rebellious and school counselors were calling my parents here F- smell marijuana on your son I say that on your podcast that's terrible the difference in case anyone's wondering are you want to say the word business that's that's heavy Ryder and my God those people gala Moore played rebels string quartet four rebel I mean that's that's playing bear opus opus three angled better grades to the attorney of Jesus from the tip of the end of time forty four something to the six I got the sorry sorry Nathan you're kind of the opposite I think I mean I think me also I didn't I didn't think I would become a musician anymore where we were earlier today I don't think there's any legal case that I just go back and prosecute you because of the order go into stores and throws you star cinch horse of know what the tempo marking is restored he was actually quite a job with him he was quite stern quite mean with me and I came in I was the first person to arrive at with him he knew every note by heart will head to he could I don't think he could see very well point either I remember joking with him once I mean he didn't joke around with me but my mom couldn't walk anymore looking after her and it was really hard so it was either like get a job as a bartender or something or because the phone wasn't ringing looking after my mom at the same time I brought her to Connecticut with me to live and that's as we all know we all know somebody who's done something like that it's it's hard it's hard to move back home in a way I can't remember he so yet it was really rustic up there when I was there I mean it was super I have a blanket I wrapped myself already yeah yeah sometimes that makes it worse it's like when that's the situation you almost blurt out inappropriate things even more I don't know what to say hat generation there was a like an invisible wall that you really ought not cross unless invited to do so and even after that Sa- million so I think he tried to set me on fire and you probably heard something else the Hartford symphony job and I had a small management in New York took interest in me and so I signed with them and I thought that that was going to be good but I I was actually incur- from home and I'll be fine so sound though it's not sad I'm just I'm just idiot so yeah air conditioning now I don't know metal mount is different but do you guys ever go to bed amount now I know I never did that or encore Nob- practice talking about chatterbox I'm so sorry it's a podcast she said here silently would be scared please keep our long it can be a multi parter because I'm worth it doesn't we've been talking about ourselves for thirty episodes a refreshing change in that way anyway but you know it's funny right around that time I started adopting a different attitude that you know maybe opportunity will knock in other places so off the hook for me to play concerts I mean I I had a big international music competition a few years before that when the Irving Klein competition my friends always called Calvin Klein think you have to do that for five hours a day they're put a cassette tape. What if you're practicing going I do this exercise weight or those silence is that are sort of inherent in that position are they came pretty easily to me like leading a cello section dealing with people I think for the most part when I'm of sound mind comes very naturally to me and so I wouldn't say it's easy money or anything but I I liked it and I I did I did a brief tour did this thing to New York and DC and then I just at this point that you have a job yes it was right before I got the and my towel give you a Weirdo I just I don't do anything right so bring your own at that time you had to bring those I was good at it and I I enjoyed it plus that time spent in Hartford I got to learn all the big solos all the big pieces and and it may not have been the Berlin Philharmonic we've talked about moving back at times but we know that we'll we'll be here long we love la too but yeah so that orchestra when when I joined it in two thousand and two but it was a job in a got got me a lot of experience so I was in that position for about nine years during which time I I met Betsy and she was in the coastguard band so you don't want to say the wrong thing and then you just end up spontaneous terrific syndrome he went to Marlborough several summers so it's just there two summers communist that competition kind of got me gummy going but I don't like well I don't think anybody eh twice as good one I don't know why went because I all I did was to break the rules in sneak into the girls' storm that was it gallery story so I walk in place for the beautiful stradivarius diamonds in the hill style pegs instead of the wooden pips on George of Detroit and he created this magnificent Orchestra and Detroit symphonies Ben like beset by so many problems over the years and he should I don't need to do that again one of one that's that's fine that's good enough for me and I probably should have kept going you know butt off must have should have you know and it's by dint of musicians wanting the quality to stay high that they fought for everything they had and I I think that that cocky kit okay now and I was also really uncomfortable I didn't know what to say so I think with a lot of the old timers from that you can never but I mean we're you hoping solo concerts yeah that was my I mean I grew up wanting to be a soloist yeah I mean a lot of us are are sort of when I got the job in Hartford something's happened you know I got I got a few more solo concert was really when I when I want my position Detroit that door started opening and I fright there are a lot of people talk a lot of smack about Detroit but I'll tell you this it really gets under your skin in a in a good way at Detroit is very special place and trait simply principal cello position and I was there for ten years and I never thought I'd leave we loved it there we got married they're our kids were born there I mean entered you at some point that there's GonNa be a work stoppage and Lo and behold there was one Beckham such thousand eleven thousand ten thousand eleven and I hadn't considered conceivable positions that we're talking about yeah I only went after principal position specific because I in Hartford I I realized pretty good at this and the challenges here's I I maybe Oklahoma City's stretch for Midwest I think that's considered southwest but my mom's from Chicago and I lived in the Mid West quite a bit anyway I'm rambling say and that was to happen during the season where we went on strike I was going to ask you about this lead you so so that happened and during the strike I was able to sort of spread my wings a little bit and I was kind of a mercenary principal cellist played principal the Saint Paul Chamber Orchestra I play principle in Bergen in Norway where we did some recordings and stuff like that and I was a finalist in the concerned about principle audition and that didn't work out it was during they were referring to like a second golden period they talk about the Paul paraders as like the big golden period like the he was sort of in the last just sort of stream of consciousness but before coming out to La Leonard Slatkin had become our music director after plays her frequency in that area she is she's fervor good money she was able to buy you a blanket she bought me hello to a period of like six seven years she saved a year salary of my salary something like that she would probably tell you otherwise but she down chilly and betsy bless her she is she's the money person she's so much better oh I mean that goes without saying she's she's just the numbers person I played a lot of concertos with him in them slatkin took over he was also very generous to me so I was assigned to learn the John Williams cello concerto it was going to be recorded for naxos likes competitions nobody likes editions but I really really have a tremendous amount of anxiety around than I in my mind was what been there done that bought the delay Philharmonic Cello Principal Cello position and I thought oh I don't know I send my semi application people listening out there if you think that it's nothing but dan rather were like probably one carat diamonds at least shot at well I said Mr Gallagher do you go to cartier to get your violent adjusted he just looks at me like the next season because I was all booked up for the rest of the season where they settled and the Williams Concerto was put on the next season and then saw the ad for the like everybody else you get invited to audition and then you you know it's all done fair and square so I when I got my invitation letter I collected all my music it's like anywhere else because I I really loved my job I love the orchestra we loved our house you know special place and Betsy and I are kind of dyed in the wool mid West me evy and those years with Rv were just the best and I am of course a bias like because Jaffe hired me and very very specially gave me a lot of opportunities everybody knows where was I before meadow mount talking about like what are you talking about a going tomorrow Bruin reconnecting with David soyer politics and who you know or whatever getting I hate to disappoint you but it's far more routine and mundane and not mysterious you send in your application money burns a hole in my pocket so she grabs it before I can see managed to save a bundle before the strike happened over yeah I it was like not not even close to enough time so we got to the Williams Concerto and I've been working on it but then I've really hate myself into a corner in after everything at the eleventh hour at Bernstein said like to produce something worthwhile you need a plan and not quite enough time can't maintain it and I remember after the whole Williams thing was done I was just spent and I was kind of dejected you know like after performing started the heavy duty work got through the concerts recording was made out of the life stuff the live broadcast and then I I have a couple of days French Horn player she was in the US Coast Guard band and in the Hartford symphony so she quit and so shortly after after I met her I won the musician and a solo player getting dates all these things were happening and then the the orchestra settled and of course I went back at the beginning fire when you're you're you're in fighting shape you're in like Olympic auditioned audition condition which is like the guys it's like that sometimes you get like kind of let them well I was practicing pulling an all nighter before I came to La for the audition and betsy it's a hands free vailable head so but it looked like we were moving towards a settlement and at that point I was doing okay fine you're saying I sounded that good that gave me so much confidence to Harrison because she is sky high standards and so I knew I was doing something right all I remember Eliana she brought me to my room I couldn't move my hand by hand was completely I mean it was gone uh-huh every time we would come close to like the orchestra settling with Betsy and I would say do I go back to just like try to launch myself as a panicked I was like oh Jesus you know this isn't worth it it's like I don't have a shot anyway that's how I felt like going into the auditions and this is valuable because every audition that I've a- and he said well we do have an opening there was a cancellation for the next day said if you can come back the committee huge effect on me which which he said she said I was mentally preparing the garage sale and it was like that her saying that like getting our house ready to move like her make it to the top of Everest it's one thing to make it to base camp until I got to the summit another thing I mean you know what it takes to win or not just you have to be you can't maintain that one every audition have done well in I've had the attitude that I need to lose I'm not GonNa win this Rochester Hartford Detroit and la I win way too much to point that out to me I'm GONNA really try not everybody says Thor I've used I've used my mom's not to go through the the filler Monica the philharmonic list it was all stuff that I knew except for maybe the John Adams so and I was in really good shape at the time so you know when you're on in there and I just played as though is playing a concert I had the right mindset the next day yeah so I get this I so I slept like be upset if you had left and they learned that you couldn't play or whatever just you know think about if you don't show up so I was really happy that they had done that for me and I named check on me in the middle of the night I was like three in the morning I said Betsy Sniping bother getting on the plane flight was in like seven hours I couldn't even like it was frozen sometimes like if I'm over playing and under practicing and under that makes sense this will cave in and it's like a muscle spasm and how you doing recording project now that you're back at work well that still a ways off but I'm famous crammer eight so I I got I got to the audition here and stayed at a hotel like far away 'cause I don't like bumping into anybody I know I can't praise and got to the hall uh we had lunch together and then I was with Julie at the Seattle Chamber Music Festival and Julius like super awesome she's super friendly time that we audition and then our trial weeks were like several months away right because it has to be a time when the music directors conducting so okay so I interested Robert and betsy if you're listening I want you to hear this said Robert While you're playing I was it's hard to get emotional about it really had who is selected and she's now principal Saint Paul Chamber Orchestra and I was like there was a big gap between the time it seemed like two and a half hours worth like I held in complete I ever really going to drop the needle thing social and I'm I'm sitting there like in the corner kick getting more and more uptight with like every bite of food this festival is wonderful in Seattle where we but how long was the strike strike with six months six months to the day and so during that point to music festivals series would call me up to to play like ten or whatever played three rounds that day Muslims along day and I was on this committee by the way I know I know and our friend Julie was the other finalist says with Joey Silverstein another one of my heroes and and it was like a little awkward you know you're running into committee members Prince Home I didn't ask for another time I just I'm GonNa go he said wait I think we have a cancellation and that's when they decided to give it to if it weren't for that candlish would've left and likely still be in Detroit we'd be flying there to interview yeah that's happened before hasn't we'd like a sliding doors thing I hear all stars thing I was invited to that way before the La thing happened I was invited as the principle of Detroit and so we got to play all these these chambers fifteen hours without getting up for as much as a p. break and some city that's the best strategy there are so many ups and downs but that's worth remembering that if if you do have strange circumstances around an addition sometimes there's an assumption that somehow that's GONNA show to the committee in addition it's worked out it's sometimes it's our day sometimes it's not the bottom line is like there are a lot of qualified people for any position and just to say I always say to students if you can play Helen Lehman from beginning to end the anything I mean it's hard so I had the Williams to learn and I had the dances that had led up it it's interesting to me now at the time you know all we were doing was okay they bring out the next person they play whereas to you it was like sort of governed by like Oh shit enough time because I'm a slap procrastinator and it's not because I'm lazy it's because I think I have whatever the from my perspective being on the committee you know we had no idea than than you know no real interest in any of these circuits I just wear yourself out of basically chop your hand off the cleaver let it grow back overnight got I I play play it all right I think yeah I mean there those those rare times at the top of the game like that I've ever taken myself and knowing that my standards were so high and that there's no possibility of even approaching that so you had Asian rhyme felt like just like I could just go for it and I felt awesome no I think they were all terrible experiences I don't know it the timing and I thought oh I didn't prepare well enough of this nonsense I've played the stuff so many times and when you're in really good shape you can pretty much the U. At no y right we were teaching it together it was just a little bit like Cj was there is a little awkward we went out for fun do you remember the I mean I I I get my best work done at the eleventh hour I always have and I get very angry at myself for that reason but I go through these bursts excellent there is as a musician of writer's block I mean it's an anxiety that for many years I couldn't get the cello out of the case unless I had a suit on it's funny I in my mind I've never really separated how one prepares for a symphony concert versus how prepares for Concerto were my whole life has been well in the La Fila decision. I don't think I would have played as well as I did had it not been exactly that way I I don't know it's so much of it has to do with mm-hmm I know I know like another you living in Detroit but the but the whole he's Asian and it has hair has basketball like a lot better than say the the confluence of events that have led up to me mm-hmm two-day beard and even take a shower I just put my clothes on by cello out just very gingerly okay all right all right shop at the hall purcell in Happy Valley I think it was called the dorms those those beautiful non air conditioned sorry guys aren't listening and maybe it's so you know I don't feel ready or I did this doesn't quite feel right the committee's not GonNa know or care well I was when I had talked to Jeff I said I'm just GonNa fly it feel like you were right up against it even too I think so and I I still I still pull that stuff it's it's it's funny I shouldn't be saying this of Intense work intensive work where I might not feel the real benefit of it right away but months down the road bulls competitor and I'm like she's awesome Oh yeah so anyway look we've all yeah you remember when you were a kid like you take your lesson and you go home you're practicing like you wake up the next day and it might get the cello out and I don't have a suit on and sit down and play and I'll be like better and do you remember when you look in the Matrix or something and that was like a running joke I don't get my cello my case people like ha well it's true it was true because I have this phobia of sorts facing would know what you're getting into and and then there was another festival in Maine where I was playing parts Joey Silverstein it was his can't move I went to Jeff Jeff I can't play I didn't know his name at the point man it'll take our meals together and it's great unless you're meeting your intercession so God you guys they turned a plateaus and they're really good and visual I mean I so for me I mean a those in climbed better than I was yesterday you know the steps were very visible that little I call it like a spiral staircase but eventually the step start to widen they get they get they get longer and longer I find that to be well I think it serves a purpose I think it's a bit lazy and it's not how I would teach but I'm not saying it doesn't have any merit well I mean that kind of approach cookie-cutter mentality I know there you can achieve a certain degree of success that way but you run the risk of having too many student sounding the same and can work for players that really need a lot of fundamental help right I mean if if there's a method that can get someone from kind of ground zero to having am better than it was a few months ago like I can play I just I just learned the barber concerto early this year and performed it with the Fort Wayne Philharmonic and you do something versus like how you do something tying those things together backwards it's like here's how it should sound and then go from there whereas I think a good teacher takes under them that largely has to come from from within the the person they have to want really want that but you're talking about Oh yeah I know how to help this person specifically that's what makes me be the terms of craft league mechanics just like this person I I was like making it worse because it was like it's stupid to think everybody should sound the same that's that's interesting yeah I I like to try to find out what makes that person tick what what could potentially light a fire talking about is more of a like you might say believe that you're a better coach than a teacher I've only I've mostly been more comfortable doing excerpts joining like addresses the mechanics not yeah to answer your question a little further I try to approach it from two different viewpoints and you could call it Polish German piano professor like everybody studied with all the big name study for him and he was interviewed by somebody who wants saying Hang Akiko like really made me think about the difference between coaching and teaching and most a lot of teachers don't make the distinction and I think what you're is trying to get them to sound a certain way whereas what they really needed was somebody who could take what they had and make the best it could be because not students who work with that sense discovery in will every student requires a different method I always talk about this one teacher Theodore Limited gay was practicing set makes sense and I try to talk to students about that because I know my approach to teaching is a little a little out there a little different how do you bring that out of the Africa's it's like this is what it should sound like that works with excerpts to a certain extent but like for as a teacher that doesn't work you're not helping them they're playing gregory bridging the gap between like why and connected me to to that of uncomplicated time when I was a kid and I was just discovering it I love that I want to recreate that as much as I can in my own Mr what is your what is your method he said what method my method is bespoke thing for the student and Yeah I don't agree with those sort of eight months later I just I was having so much more fun playing the talent that's that's what it is for me is the the just the tactile enjoyment of doing what I'm doing the point of view the craft the almost antiseptic nature of putting something together versus setting that aside and then approaching it quite as active and you get better at taming taming that sort of juvenile side of yourself versus the adult side of yourself which is you could always say adult juvenile I own practicing as haphazard as my practice can be I do definitely make a distinction between mechanics and then sure who was great at breaking things down into logical blocks I think you know I was taught much in that vein like here's Oh that's where you've got real artistry of the person tonight you know this is just a theory of mind and I I used myself as a Guinea pig in this department so make myself do that in that that has actually helped me considerably and the condemnation that that force in constant critic is is not artistry and at some point I cut myself off and then I say Robert you're GonNa play now just GonNa play and you're not gonNA stop you're not gonNA stop for every little thing that goes do this maybe that's why I got better at imitating things learning that way but it also gives me a feeling that sometimes I don't understand how something works or that you know you know I I'm not a good teacher so it's interesting to hear don't I'm a really bad teacher so it's funny to to hear because I had a moment listening to somebody a few months ago and I thought go and assess Beth the goofiest asked my kids definitely yeah so approaching something from let's say let's be from an abalone in from the point of view where it's like you're you're the party animal you're you're having fun with it and I find that when those two approaches meet in the middle telling people how often what they need is just to be inspired or frustrated into to know where it is that they have to go in the himself I never really had a teacher certainly how I'm doing it that that's sort of barrier that's hard for me to overcome in teaching but yeah but it's fascinating to hear how you practice there's a feeling a little bit of a Theorem here in Las Vegas style story but I didn't know that yeah the Ford escorts could go hundred something I maybe I should try it's like the just playing and not letting that 'cause like it's easy to practice using the little critical voice going oh no need to the New Yorker I'm sitting in this town car cello I actually played or where you're going to get work done it could be a miserable room like the one we're in or it can be just a palace it could be a non picturing a was featured on a midday program they took me to a program called Danny stance like a big deal it's like this like sort of Johnny Carson like her for me it's about creating the right emotional landscape in your mind and I mean you've got a lot of keys to that door you know to that it well it goes back to like winning an audition or doing well in a in a competition or even playing to your own satisfaction in concert sixth grade when this happened so as twelve and I heard myself talk like this and I had no idea sounded like that and I the billiards room and the and the game clue you know I always like that I don't know there's just Carinthian Leather Really Love was horrified elry twelve either eleven or twelve it right right around there and a similar time for me and so you guys brought up something I actually Akiko you brought up about imitation and I've heard you both your great imitating voices in this one when I was when I was a kid all in the in the in the mix as well you know does that make any sense at all oh definitely yeah so I feel your Kiko you're too hard on yourself as far as I mean you you are always worried that you're not the viola in a Ford escort driving about one hundred miles an hour down a road where you're driving or doesn't seem like my parents both at different accents grandmother who was from the old country and all that but when I was a kid growing up in in Oklahoma City on that shift wasn't cleaner that you know that and that's that's exactly what prevented me from even just opening cello case yeah and and it's it's great I kind of want to go home and try it in getting rid of whatever I cultivated this back said that whatever it is nobody gets where I'm from and Hugh wanting to become somebody else exactly you know family is a mess a mess but learning to do that and emulating newscasters all right here in like listen to a podcast and like so I can kind to hear myself I have always pray this might be interesting I always practice and then I play my my little solace concerto or whatever wasn't go over to talk and I saw the videotape later gala or we talk about highlights magazine is definitely I was gallant until about twelve and then I was totally yeah that was well mentioned Carinthian leather and very this is not the mother the played I think it's definitely plays in to get a good at an instrument and also mastering legs I learned I grew up listening to various acts uh-huh class a yeah it's like it's not velvet luxury playing with some kind of distraction really it has to be like a ball game or like a season of Dexter is something I find I concentrate much better meeting in had memory slip in the last movement of Bahraini before Major Cello Concerto has memory slip in the same spot the exposition and development of the last movement person who's heritage is really not really an any question I'm obviously came from but it's interesting everybody's got a story I was love hearing people's do you WanNa do Nathan still had his accent you could probably turn it on when I go visit it comes back a little bit is the number five I don't know what it is about that number thirty six years and it's funny because for so many years I tried to go around it various methods but past few years I've been going through and Sonata Rondo thing and it spooked me I've been grappling with VAT for Antolin in terms of sort of believing in what I can do but it's a struggle it's like it's never been a struggle for me to play the cello it's never been a struggle for me to memory airman loved everybody I grew up with but I think I wish I still had that accent actually it was probably the one authentic thing about me next Sunday we'll have the yourself into a corner out you didn't not practicing ah for me it's like changing changing the oil fix your hate pant but that exercise insecurity and it's getting better at it but it's it's always a struggle that I've struggled my entire life with stage nerves and it all came from one event insanely jealous person even if I do well at a concert I remember winning a a competition when I was young and she she'd say to me Oh you'll never be I made it my mission to get rid of my exit because I didn't I'm from Chicago when she stabbed okie sooner she's always always say criticized uh but that process I mean it's you know you're not expecting it to be perfect right away I mean you record yourself you listen back you make a change record again listen back things work at least right if it's a tear down and rebuild you know it's one of those needs a mall Al Franken carefully your legs there look a little bit of a plug for Concerto Command for because coming up like do I have a concern damore shock oh the thing with what's the date for that that's and finally just reckon with it you just have to know that like you're not alone by any stretch I mean some people have said to me and said Oh you project a early confident outward it's it's working out much better you know so get into that another podcast now because like that's something I'm looking down the barrel out feels like like I'm going to have grew up in my my mom was not well mentally and my father was alcoholic I'm a recovering alcoholic and My mother used to say things I mean my mother was our power couple you guys mazing I admire you so much a lot we've got a podcast at least tell us tell us what's going on it's learning I think it's learning how to co exist with things like that and say okay you're there to acknowledge it I get it I'm never going to vanquish that eighty is coping with that so like what is it specifically then if it's not the techniques not the is it a what is it about what's the anxiety about you know well I think added because you've got a the Concerto Yeah Yeah I've got I've got a few few irons on the fire outside of the Phil I'm playing Cello Concerto Komo much better and what about the concerts like are you magic you like sort of visualizing Renault at that point I I'm hoping

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Ep. 303: Celeste Johnson - A Running Journey

Run Your Day

18:40 min | 9 months ago

Ep. 303: Celeste Johnson - A Running Journey

"Hey everyone dan have here. The run your day podcasts. At you ever thought about starting your own podcast. When i was trying to get this podcast off the ground i had so many questions like. How do i recorded episode. Where do i find backrooms. How do i get my show onto apple podcasts. Spotify stitcher and all the other places people like to listen. Where do i find. Advertisers and sponsors. The answer to every one of these questions is really simple anchor. Anchor is a one stop shop for recording hosting distributing and even monetize your podcast in best of all. It's one hundred percent free in. It's ridiculously easy to use seriously. Click a couple buttons speaking microphone. Boom you have a podcasts. So you've always wanted to start a podcast go to anchor dot f. m. slash To join me in the diverse community of podcasters already using anger that's anchored dot fm slash. Start i can't wait to hear your gets welcome to the run your day. Podcast a show dedicated to helping you expand your capacity. Take your life in every area to an entirely new level in creating a day in a life by design. Here's your host dan hafner. Hello everyone welcome back to another episode of the run your day podcast as always your hosts dan hafner here. I'm super excited for today's episode. We have another interview lined up for you guys today. Today i will be talking with. Celeste johnson was a mother a wife a runner an inspiration to everyone. I'm super excited. Hafer on the show. We're going to talk specifically running and A lot of you are either through this Episode through the earth on this show through the runway jap or The run your podcast. So i think get a lot of value from her coming on the show. so celeste. how're are you doing today inks. I'm great how are you. i'm good. I'm good so yeah tell us a little bit about yourself and know how you got started with running and and we'll go from there Let's see i live in north carolina. been here a couple of years as you said my wife. I have two kids down almost thirteen nine and started running back in two thousand three. I think i just wanted to lose weight and get in shape and stuff like that. So i bought a treadmill in arena metro. Only like i never even went outside. I just ran like three to five miles a day. Nothing like exciting are tons of running or anything but So i would just run. And then i mean i did that for a really long time like up until two thousand and fifteen and my friend was like. You're not running on a treadmill inside any more. She's like you're running outside and she signed me up in join may join a running group in virginia. We moved here from virginia. And so i started reading outside amid all these amazing women and then i started racing totally fell in love with running all over again in a different way. So so why. Did you wrote a treadmill for so long. Was it just like Embarrassing or or what was. Why did why are you going to travel for so long. I mean i wasn't embarrassing. It was just probably just more convenient. Because i had little children at the time. And you can stop and get a water if you want to or are know. Probably the heat had to do with it too in one. Run outside in the heat like here. The problem is there's nowhere to run. There's no sidewalks to run on so like i either run in my community or run on the treadmill so that does drive me crazy. I'm like give me sidewalks to run on. Because in virginia we lived in ass suburb washington. Dc so there were sidewalks everywhere. I mean i could run thirty miles in any direction and so it was amazing. Do yeah that's where i just moved here. There's it's a kind of background but we also have like a big fifty five mile an hour road like that's kind of part of my block so if i just want to go for a quick ron i'm like well that's kind of a risk like there's no shoulder to run on and that's all the roads are there's no shoulder and occasionally people will run on them but i'm like oh my gosh so dangerous. The two cars are passing at the same time. And then there you are too so yeah for sure so okay so then when you started venturing into the running group world and the in the racing world Look like you've done you've done marathons you've done some further than marathons like tell us a little bit about what you've done. Yeah so i started off. Just doing the five k. And staff. And then i quickly moved to marathon Race the first time in august. Two thousand fifteen. Just five gay than i did. A half in that november and then the following spring. I didn't full marathon so like it was not long at all. I started racing marathon. So i've done four marathon so far in c. n. to fifty cays forty-five maller. So while so what what's been the most challenging and why like which which race that you've done has been the most challenging Well so i ran this race and this half marathon in ocean city maryland in like things just didn't go according to plan that day like it wasn't supposed to be hot. It was too hot. They didn't have enough water stations. I wore the wrong clothing in. Everybody knows like a disaster. You know to wear bronco so anyway. I'm running along. Everyone is like overheating. If i'd had a credit card. I would have stopped or debit card. I would have stopped Gestation bought myself some water because like it was that miserable and that hot. I mean it was like ninety degrees role or you know as a runner. It's more like one hundred ten degrees for you when you're running if it's ninety anyway so Happen is. I was running in a lost my bib at about halfway through the race and so i had to go back and find my bed which took a long time so had run a half a mile box to get it and then like all these men were like. Oh you're running the wrong way. You're going the wrong way in the race. I'm like hello. I know that looking for my babe and like you know showing on. There's no big on my body here anyway. So only i kept asking everybody. Have you seen Finally i'm event and then it had to run back and catch up instead of running a half marathon. Iran like fourteen over fourteen miles. It was just a crazy crazy day. So wow that's cool so some interested like how do you you know as as a wife as a mother. How do you balance your training. Regimens or your coach to right. Yeah okay so how do you. How do you balance all that It's hard. I don't know he sleep a lot Let's see i just have to make time for yourself. Is the number one thing so i. I'm actually a little bit behind training for fifty miler knock on wood. That method will be able to handle it. Because i've met been injured for a long time so training right now and it's like some behind like i just ran fourteen house this morning but like i should already be probably up in the twenty five mile range according to my plan i'll get there so i just is. I can make time when again. You know i work to in zell. Life is busy but you just have to set aside time and then like actually vote yourself to that time in order to do it unlucky. My husband really helps out with the kids so he watches them a lot. I just have to carve out the time for it. Yeah i mean that kind of ties into the topic of this show right that i'd like to ask people about is like how like. How do you actually pull that off. Right so So i think in this world today like since kovic has hit like a lot of people have found it either. Easier to work out in do more or harder to work out and do more right because like we're attempt by netflix's or so tempted by the other things we have to do With the isolation lockdowns whether you wherever you are lockdown or not so like what do you think makes the difference between being able to carve out that time or not being able to carve out that time is it just mindset. Is it Is it just personal. Willpower like what is it for you. Yeah i think it's both personal mindset and willpower to Also you know all these races have been canceled most most of them having handled anyway. So i think that kinda like people have lost the drive to continue to raise you know. Keep running. And i mean so for me. I've been running Like around twenty miles a week. I haven't been like crazy running like i used to. But because of my flesh Had a stress fracture last fall and it just never healed properly anyway. So but now I decided i am going to register for this fifty dollar again. Can i deferred it last year. In so mike okay. I'm gonna run so now it's like kay. Here's the time. I got a training. I gotta do this so hopefully Can run the race that this is the third time i will attempt at fifty maller not gotten there yet or siamak. Herniated my back. My disc inside wasn't able to ahead surgery instead. The second was Unlike third time's a charm heavily. So when is the race december. Four th december fifth. One of the students okay. So let's get in here. We have a timer recording this. It's about Mid september so room. That's awesome so. I actually thought of this. I'm interested to hear you know because you've been running for quite a long time. What's what's one famous runner or athlete that you would like to be alive or dead and why okay but if i don't pronounce his name rights. Are you in advance. So i really love charge. I can't say he's just using. It probably can do better job than you did. It's not well anyway. He isn't a magazine runner. Like i just. I can't even imagine being hamlet. He just broke that to our barrier for marathon. Like how exciting messed up banja. You know like your arms out across the finish line know that the whole world is watching you. 'cause you you know ran a marathon in one hour and fifty nine minutes So i think how would it be to sit down and ask him like you know. How did you feel you know. How did you train for this. Like how long did you for this. I i know he's running. Tens americanizing always wins all of his marathon so clearly he likes trains allow but it would be amazing to be like what you eat like. How do you sleep like how long you know just so many different things that you could ask i now about him down. You've given me a great idea. I'm gonna to try and get him on this show and all that dream for you because that i never thought about that but that would be that'd be a helluva awesome interview be maybe awesome. That'd be the best thing ever. I remember when i woke up. And i saw the news of that breaking and i was like way. That can't be right that yeah that can't be under two hours nine and like the year before he ran and like to one or something any beat out like you've seen boats or whatever and so like just barely a minute and twenty seconds or something so i mean he is literally the fastest marathoner in the world. Yeah that's pretty cool so Well okay. I mean that's kind of what you had talked about before What's what's what's next on your docket. Sounds like a fifty mile. The next thing for you. Yeah yeah so. Fifty miler an and i really wanna keep going. I wanna do one hundred and a hundred miler so if the fed holds up hope to do them in a row. Because you know it's a pain to have to start over and train all the way from the beginning you're already at that fifty marketers run the next one in the next one. Some please that method. Hold up so that i can accomplish these goals that i've been wanting to do for literally years so yeah so what. So what piece of advice would you give. Someone may be listening to this show. Today that you know is is struggling with that or maybe wants to be something like you wear push themselves to. Maybe like somebody hears this. And they're like fifty miles like come on. I'm not gonna run fifty miles like what would you tell them to be able to achieve that. You just have to start. You know you have to get out. Put your clothes on but your running shoes on. Come up with a plan and get started and so there's so many running plans on the internet tons on pinterest Tons you know just on google. If you just google down there so many running coaches out there that can help create a plan. That actually broke my own plan since running coach so may not be the best thing. I often think about getting a running coach. I just haven't done it yet but one day are probably about that I wrote mountain plan. Chicken to account you know my foot is hurt too. So i didn't do as much as i would if you know better so you know. I'm not out to win this race out to finish the race in. So that's that's the only thing that matters at this point is hit that fifty miles. That's that's a great mindset to have so many people are like so hard on themselves right. Like man i gotta do this x time or whatever where it's like you just like. Hey i finished like that's a win for me. Yeah well. I mean when it gets better i will want that no doubt about it i will push harder and try even harder you know and to be faster and better that at this point i just have to finish it and i'll be happy so very cool. Well i'll tell you what i sometimes Give people the luxury of asking me. A question on the show so Do you have any kind i. i didn't. I didn't prep you for this or anything but do you have anything. You'd like to ask me while you have me here okay. what's the longest run even been are the longest run that i've ever run is half marathon to be honest i've i'm still. I'm just about to start up my my training for my first marathon. Ace even my my half marathon. Iran i think a couple of years ago I did almost no training leading up to it I i meant to in. I had a plan. And i and i wasn't really able to stick with. That's actually kind of part of the back story. That came in with my app runway wage. Which i don't know if you know about or not but yeah. Yeah yeah that was kind of part of the story as well. Because i almost like the longest run i had up to running. Half marathon was five miles ever life. And then i went and ran. The half. marathon dislike willy. Nilly on i was like. Oh she's going to do it often. Better prepared if you ran and practiced and staff but at the same time. Like it's awesome that you did it. Yeah and i did it and my goal on under two hours so that was that was why it was funny when i woke up and i was like oh. This guy ran a marathon in under two hours. I was like that was my half marathon. He ran twice the distance. I did in the same amount of time. Exactly it's amazing. What anyway all right. Well i guess that's That's all we have for today. Appreciate it now. Would you just like to close out the show. Tell people you know how they can find you or how they engage with you more. Maybe cheer you on this fifty miler. Do you have any information for us share. So i'm just on instagram. My name is compulsive runner. So that's it. You can come. Follow me or on or whatever you want to do On instagram impulsive. And you are. You are an rca coach listed in north carolina correct. Yes okay cool. Yeah you guys can check her out there on the rca website as well so our my friends. Well that is all. Let's thank you very much for coming on the show. Really appreciate you and We love to have you back on at some point. Maybe after your after your fifty miler maybe we'll get a progress update on the foot and how things out things are going so thank you very much for coming on the show. Thank you all right everyone. So that is all we have for today. Appreciate you guys joining if you want to Check out more of celeste or follow her on instagram. I'll have the link for you in the show notes here today so that is all for today's episode as always dan hafner signing off. Make a great rest of your day. Hey before you go. I have a question for you. How would you like a deeper dive experience into the run your day podcast to take your results to another level if so check out our new membership run your day academy that's right for for free for a limited time the run your day kademi platform features deeper dive content into some of your favorite. Run your day. podcast episodes in video format. Mind you from none other than me. 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Tom Talks Ep. 1 w/ Tony Gonzalez

Your Mom's House

1:08:17 hr | 9 months ago

Tom Talks Ep. 1 w/ Tony Gonzalez

"Go to why. Major virtual dot com right now and get tickets to the third. Why am h live crazy guests and crazier conduct. Hey guys were doing something a little different today. There are people that i've wanted to have long form conversations with you know just one on one. That doesn't really feel like it's best for the your mom's house podcast format. And that's what we're going to be trying to do. So it'll be. Sometimes you know maybe a sports person Business personalities somebody in the arts who you just go. I'd rather just be a conversation than do the The your mom's house. You know clip kind of show. So i'm really hoping you guys enjoy it I'm really excited to bring today's guest to you. I had a great time talking to him. He's a seventeen year. Nfl vet and of course a hall of famer really interesting guy So here's my conversation with tony gonzalez bring in one loving to this all right. Thank you very much for joining us. Says here used to play football. What was that like. It was a lot of fun. Have you done interviews like that. Where like sometimes for for me they'll go the best is when they go. Hey you know. I'm on the road and they're like you're gonna be in chicago. There's there's this radio station they really want to have you on. And you're like well you we're coming in from detroit. They're like they're big fan. And you're like okay and then you show up in their like so How do you get on netflix. And you're like what the fuck that's your question. How do you get on netflix. Have you had somebody be like the nfl. That must be hard like shit. Yeah like i. K four comedian. Yeah it's got a site just you come in there and they're like hey Be funny. It's the worst through those. That's when you know. I see i have a personality that doesn't work with that So like when when. You're ready to be funny. I shut down. And then i'll tank it on purpose like yeah. I'm like oh. I don't want to be a part of anything you do. It's like i've i've done radio shows where like you're like they go you arrive. You can have the best ones are when they're engaged they're actually asking. You know questions that make sense in like shows that they're interested in like a good interview right and then the ones that are the worst. Will you'll show up and the guys like you know renowned then he's like hey okay and then he's like Are coming back would ask you. And you're like whatever you want to know. What do you mean where i want you. They're like wall. Set you up in your. I'll be like nope. And then you see them panic because they're like. Hey man are you going to give me something to say. Because i'm lazy. And i don't know what to ask you and i'll be like no no go ahead man and then the the the thing starts in there like It says you were born in cincinnati. And you're like yeah and they're like. Is that the question that i would say. Boorda sherman we can do this. I mean i just. I don't know it for for a radio guy to just be like be funny to doing it. Sets me and What's the worst like the question to get from like in sports like when you're doing interviews Would you roll your eyes at the most. I don't know. I think it's just because the i think it's different. I don't know if you've got to be funny definitely know about what do you think about this game. What do you think do you think the chances are for such to go away this year. Okay and then. But i don't know that's that's i don't have to be funny that's true i mean there's so many like somebody i've just you know loved football my whole life and you see things that are you know like things that i kind of go of course now when you hear the coverage is his game coming up what are the keys to the game and they're like can't turn the ball over. Yeah and that's what we do in our business. Now that's since. I made that transition obviously go into now in front of the camera and yet know i figured it out took me a while figured out that people. Don't anybody can sit during the talk of. You could read the scouting report go. Well they run cover to and they. It's fifty percent of the time and just seems like it's it's no it's it's what terry bradshaw and howie and michael working with those guys now. I've seen that it. It's entertainment terry always says ah we're in entertainment. It's not just telling okay cover to splits. That's a good time. Yeah that's true so it's like what you end up getting invested in as the viewer is the chemistry. You know what i mean. Let's like he was talking about football. But i do wanna see like some laughs and see that they don't want wanna watch people that don't get along right like one wants to see. Oh there's real friction between terry bradshaw and like you know that's not going to be fun to watch and you want. I like a little bit more like there's levels to the knowledge the game and so like some like you know. I'm like probably like a lot of fans where played high school. Football peewee in high school football. And you go. And i've watched ever since then i like i like college. Football like the nfl. I love getting like that little bit of extra knowledge. Where it's like. It's just more you know as a regular fan It's like you know learning about shit that you guys the happens cadences or You know all sudden you guys are pull up a thing and you go see how in this formation It's a tell like for some reason. This linebacker clearly studied tape. Because he's he's looked right before the snap. He's dipping back a few yards. And you go. Oh i never would have put that together but you guys studied the film or whatever watch it and now as the viewer you feel like you're almost have knowledge that you shouldn't have now it's like extra insight that's entertaining them. Yeah entertainment yeah. I love it. That's the way i try to do. Yeah i always. I just want people to pretend like like the only thing missing. Is our beer up here on in front of the camera and then given good information get really that comes from. I think like people wanna hear stories to. Yes back when i was in the locker room. Julio jones you should have you know who jumped twelve foot ceiling touched a two hands and all those freak athletic stories are. I think everybody that likes sports wants to hear that. Like hey man. This guy touched the top of the backboard and and and there was like witnesses. Shit like that i mean. That's that's everybody loves statistic combine times. You like those dion stories. Like he ran them in. I dunno slippers limousine warm up and anna backwards around for that. What's the story about about him on draft day or something or pre-draft and the giants give them the plate like their playbook or something where it was like. The he's doing. You know like the pre-draft interviews i mean this is obviously eighty seven eighty eight. I guess pre-draft interview and he meets with them and they have some type of binder and they're like hey we want to ask you he hands it back and they're like what are you doing. He goes when y'all when y'all pick and they're like fourth he's like i won't be around she'll like that the balls for that's about that's why he's so good on tv or or anybody who you just can't give a shit. Yeah and s.'s. Athletes this is why i think athletes. It's hard for most of us to make that transition to television because you being a comedian. Yeah you get to say whatever the hell you want. You can cuss. You can talk about politics you can tell about race sexual able still get mad by the way. Don't care. yeah that's true. View as are the freest people in society. I think you're right. I think. But i think we're the free as people now. Now that you can control your own zoo and like your own content. But you rewind just before this this current age and comedians would definitely toe the line more. I mean i think so. I mean some. There's always the ones who didn't ever give a fuck and just like eddie murphy. Like you know roseanne like she was just like saying shit. Doesn't care but also. I think you know you have to weigh that. Those people are super successful. So they're leg. I you know people get mad. This not going to affect my ability to work. But i think the difference is right now you have all these comics have their own platforms their own you know channels and shows and they're not relying on a will will nbc. Still consider me for something. Yeah because if nbc's going to be upset by something then. i should pull like. That's starting to erode their. You know what i mean. I want as athletes we There's there's only so many jobs out there for tech for television. I mean you wanna do it like when you were playing. Prepare for it. I i had a show out in kansas city. That marcus allen. Had i called the locker room show and it was just for local television so when he left I got ninety seven. I played with marcus And then Which a boy coming from la mark was pretty. Yeah that's pretty cool. But so when he left. I took over the show for three years. Whatever so that kinda got me going and that's also like in the plans right. You're like this is going to end playing. And then that's what. I'll i didn't know if i was going to do it but i knew that if it was in their shit i better get ready. Just in case yes. If i do want to do it i want. I don't wanna look like an idiot. Dude how are you walking around. Let's start with this. So i mean us all these stories and you you know you see like real sports and they're like you know. This guy played five seasons. And now he. He looks at a board to spell words. That computer will save like crazy. Brain damage guys are like my knees on my hips and then like you see someone like he played seventeen seasons the nfl. You're like hey what's up man. Like how the fuck are you put together. I i got lucky. I do believe that genetically to like some people are just running down the field now. You sound like zoe towards acl. Nobody even touched. That's true so that never happened to me. I think it's luck. But because there are so many times where i'm blocking and the defense of the offensive line men through his player on the ground next to me and my coaches like she. Don't look at this right here. And i look at it on and it's like a half a half of a second he the keys off. You didn't lift your foot of you'd be done for the year. I've had that happen bunch of sure. So it's luck right there but then also when you look you look at Gronkowski yet other great tight end. His career got shortened. Because i think his style of play it's very like germany schalke. I don't know if you remember at new york. Catch the ball. And he's like yeah. I'm gonna run your ass over. Yeah and i'm going to get as many yards as i can't like to me there's a. There's a time and place for that. I would do that. But i also vanessa s it s it a lot and i think that was my basketball background. I heard it was like. Hey you got us a little easier. Get your ass like Like russell wilson right now. Yeah i think he's gonna be able to play for a long time. Where i look at deck prescott where he got hurt. Yeah and his was sideways and dallas roughed. It was so sad. But then at saint thomas like what are you got to download. I mean you gotta go live to fight another day. Like russell wilson. I doubt that would happen. And then there's freak accidents you never know but of course you gotta i always felt like it is like a combination of these things right because like you said you know the first. There's like the average nfl career thing where it's like three seasons like so you not only surpass that like buy multiples but be healthy. I mean it's it is pretty. I mean so. You're saying that the part of that is yes. Your your genetics in your lucky. But it's that you were also playing smart ours always trying to play smart so taken the hit when the guy comes over to the minute i see about to take a shot. Sometimes i would start my feet and you probably couldn't even tell but i would stop running Right before he hits me. And i would jump back as he's hitting me and so the crowd would go. Ooh like it's a hit. I'm protecting my body my body and i'm fine. Yeah and the guy can get up and celebrate. But i'm fine because you did you tell other players this like you know as you became like also like hey man you're gonna fucking die care of yourself. Well yeah you tell me. But they don't they don't they. Don't remember this another miami. Do speaker shock brendan Meriwether was meriwether. Who was a. He was a defensive back. Yes people used to go. That's what i'm saying. Though like. he would crown crown. Hit people all the time. Yeah and like. And then you know the nfl there was like a period where it became. Like you're used to seeing that. And then they were like. We're not doing that anymore. But he would still do that and you like you're getting fined you're knocking yourself out and on top of other people but it's like i guess what i'm saying is it doesn't matter how many people probably told him stop doing just like i remember. I think i remember planning and i before the game even started. I went up to him because he had hit a couple of guys knees and blew out their knees. And i say hey man. Relax don't don't go to my knees okay. You would actually say that. Oh and tell them that before the game and then he'd back. I don't don't try and run me over then. Don't don't make me look stupid. We'll take care of each other. And i said yeah and i said well if i if i have you in. You're in front of me. And you see me and i see you. I'm gonna do what it takes and the same thing. Come knock the shit out of me. But if i'm not looking don't hit me down low. Yeah just hit me up top. I promise you like. I'm not saying i'll go down but i mean. Just just do that and he would do that and during the game i remember one time. He hit me and he comes up and he goes. Hey i could have got you got you thank you thank you thank you. How often like. How common was that taiba conversation or better one comment at all. No but i mean not just about specific about. Hey him in. The ways tackling was like the pre-game. Hey dude like let me let me holler at you for a second about whatever. Your like that comment did you do that. You did do that. I did that. And i think you could do that. When you get older once you establish yourself. I wouldn't do that my i. you know. Sixty eight rookie man. Let me talk to you. Real time tackling. Wait when you were in because it is rare. Obviously that you played college basketball to How how soon you said one time like that. You i mean obviously you. You knew you were a superior football player right if you were equal at both. Would you have leaned basketball operative in basketball for sure for sure for sure. Yeah i mean basketball. It's a lot more fun than football. Yeah she's in. You're inside yeah. There's no there's no there's no zero twenty below in december. Yeah it's not one hundred degrees one hundred ten degrees out in atlanta during the summer or kansas city. I should so brutal it's tough. It's a tough way to make a living. It is halfway. it's the most exciting sport i mean. I i can say that. I don't even have to say the viewers say that but basketball was a smaller group. It's not as Dog eat dog world like like. It's a football team. Man's sport gets is you will get. Bitched is so sadly rent. Your sosa like i think one of the things that hits you when you love love football and you play on an amateur level is it you get a round just around the higher level tiers of it and you're like this is so different like this is like the the levels of athletes the speed the power that hits your like this. This really is like gladiator ship. It will get even at the high school level. You have to go into that. That other dimension of okay like you said like like not. Nobody's dying obviously. Yeah but it's like you gotta go you can't you can't like not take it all the way you got to be as aggressive as you possibly like the love about coaches like the even. There's you don't think they have like the lingerie football thing and you'd think obviously if your wife and that you're like come on man like or anything else on like they're they're not really but then you watch this coach. Who's coaching right. He's coaching the girls lingerie stuff. Yeah and listen to how he this is exactly. How the coaches. I remember right. You gonna let that motherfucker mushoo down like that and you ain't breaking that bitches face right now. Tell me. You're going to allow that motherfucker. The do what she done. And you didn't come here and try to break off fucking net. You can't her by her teammates. Break off the net. but what. she's done you down now. Tell me you ain't got that of he will streak in i would be. Would i would literally hike the ball and plus dot you ever let anybody do. I love him. I love i mean all right. It's a little you shouldn't break next. The knowing is could you can condone that but you can condone the. It's the mentality. It's the mentality of like watching. That clip reminds me of a seventh grade football coach. Who like are you going to let these guys. Just push you guys around like that game speech. Yeah all right back. The day back. In the day i mean. They wouldn't say break their necks but they would say if you're not going to hit somebody in the face while you sign up and you go to start putting in your head when you're young. Yeah be the hammer. Not the nail got you know. Bring it every time. Bring the pain during the pain. Yeah and it's it's fun but you know that that that that's i think that's going away that right there. I think it's i don't know how old that not in not in women's football it's not might be going out of men's football it's just it's just firing up the women's league break their fucking next. Well they got yeah. I can't condone man. I love it so much Yeah i mean. I remember i remember when i was I went to. Chris doleman football camp when i was a kid. I remember chris doleman. Yeah for the vikings right and and and we would You know they bring like with those camps they bring in all the other friends and players and there was a one. I forget his name man. There was a packer who came running back. He was like first of all. I'll even like football that much. We're like what if you're in the nfl. He's like a wish. I could play basketball. And they started his life thing he start off by telling us that he wished he was not in the nfl. Football stays a lot. Though when i came in ninety seven it was that league of just kabul was the oklahoma drill type stuff. Yeah they go over the middle. I mean the game. They wanted to knock you out of the game. Yeah concussion number day. That word was never used. It was got your bell rung l. Roy get back in the game. Yeah but the. Nfl has done such a good job of changing that now the game is considerably safer where they've taken the head out of the game and they've done it like we're talking before at my evan. My son plate varsity play football last year He is different their coach at that level. To and you see it. Now guys are tackling between the the knee and the head. That's where you're supposed to hit. Yeah and stuff happens once in a while. It's the nfl. of course. like. I mean people ask me. They go they'll know. I like football and they go. Would you let your sons play football. And i go. Yeah and they really even with all this news. I'm like first of all like if there's anything that i do like that i can credibly talk about. It's playing amit. Like i played peewee and high school football. And my thought is that most of your hits in those. Those years most are like it's form tackling. You're not playing against tony gonzales every week. Now you're playing against other fucking fat sophomores. Like they're not they're not impressive. Like like i remember. I had heath evans on here because we played high school football games each other and i go. I remember that hitting you was different like then we would. Even i can remember being in high school being like got the that guy's a truck right and then of course you know we graduate. We watch them go on offer in the end. You're like oh yeah. That dude was notably different. But i go you take that game and then all the that's the only game were were like. This is a problem getting us guy but everybody else it's like i go you know could could I have been concussed with him. Yeah i probably was but but like if you know that one dude versus all those games. I don't know i don't feel like i have to run away from the sport because there might be. You know somebody out there who's a i. Can you know rocket launcher or so. I mean like it's not it's not. I understand the comments of people. Saying you know if if you are if you're talking about d. one you're going to d one like you're you're definitely going to feel that impact every play and you need to be that level athlete to be able to deal with it and and so on and so forth. But i'm just not as freaked out about that little league stuff. Yeah well they played and they won't play. Go ahead yeah. What would i is something that i that i did. Yeah and bought this house kids. Yeah you like food clothes. You're wearing dad. Bought it with football. Take it yeah them every day. It's my house is here hula. Give yourself to go now. I i do. I said you're an anomaly. And i mean it i mean you have to be like first of all how many how many nfl players do you think. Current or former are on flights reading books and taking notes about the book. That's what i saw you doing on a flight and you're sitting there reading your book and taking your notes for yourself. I assume yeah. I mean what are we up to. Maybe three three current or former players. That would that would do that. You'd be surprised but yeah it's not a common interest shore common for anybody. That's another good point. Yes do people really want to. That's true. I mean you doctors curious. I'm curious book too. I always. I did this at my hall of fame. Books book changed my life. I never read. When i was a kid. No high school or college. When did you start early even required reading a book. The cliff notes. When did you start. I and i've told this story. A bunch i have My second year in the league led the league and dropped passes in the nfl and got really twice. Got booed by the home crowd. Remember that it was. I mean i was playing. But i got bench twice and i my my stepbrother. My adopted by the donna. He sent me a book of quotes by vince. Lombardi and i always like. I don't know vincent by everybody from bardy. The greatest moment of a man's life is winnie lies totally exhausted on the battlefield glorious winnings yeah the all those quotes and so Offer that i was pretty charged up. I'm like this is some good stuff i need to. The middle of the season was almost over. So i went out and bought his book when pride matter to whatever thick book and i and i read the whole thing in like five six days because it was speaking to me like if a page turner and i wouldn't put it down and then i'll based off of that. I was like holy shit. I've been i've been doing it the wrong way. Thought i was working hard. I thought i was doing it. The right way. I was wasn't because i was lacking like i was partying in doing a bunch of stuff. I shouldn't have been doing. I was i was. I thought it was quote unquote doing it. The right way but there was another level there in that book taught me that and so for that i was like i want some more. This and i started reading like about michael jordan's routine start reading about lou. Lou holtz books pat riley phil jackson. Start going through all these books and then they start getting all these and it just spiraled out of their and books is like the great. It changed my life. And so that's why today. I always have a book that i'm reading well so not only like opened. You obviously curious and you loved consuming the knowledge but those books or at least like in specifically some of these ones helped. Change how you started to prepare for the game changed everything really well because you start reading about other people say you for. You're a comedian in did not know. Who's the best community. I like chapelle. There's up say okay. There's a book on chapelle on his life and like how he and out there. I'm sure okay. What does he do like why. Why chapelle why is he so funny like what's what's making a movie. I'm very curious. He's like well. I smoked two packs of cigarettes a day. Six hour sets. And you're like crate. Pick up our sets. He will he. He like not doing them right now. But in regular times there's multiple like you can check it with the punch line san francisco. I'm sure and date. I know melrose in the store he would come in commonly do three and four hours. But it's not it's not what you're it's not a three and four hours of like just like when you watch a special. Yeah it's him. that's how he basically writes right so he'll go up there and they're everybody so namur with him and such a master of not just being funny but being interesting conversation that he'll go on those long ones to sit there. What y'all wanna talk about. Start talking yeah and then it could be like twenty five minutes of just like just talking just talking and there's no you don't feel you're at a comedy show but you feel engaged and then move also hit like a maybe ten minutes of just rock and just you know huge laughs and then you know something happens starts talking about that and also on your two and a half three hours in. But he's very very unique. And i don't know that that i mean that type of preparation would even translate for more people but i get i get what you're saying like i'm saying him specifically very unique in that in just the ability to do that like you told me tom go tonight. Just go four hours. I'd be like no. I don't i bet you could though i bet i probably could. If if here's the thing if you're in an environment where i think it helps in that going to be in a small small space. Everybody wants to be there in other words. They're they came to see you there you know. They're that interested in you. I can see going long. I sit going. I think we're always always kind of blew. My mind was how long you've got to be. I talk to anybody fucking six hours like you know what i mean like. I don't wanna talk to my wife. My parents have like six hours but like he. There's a couple other people that could do like those really long sets. But i think they have like a real stream of consciousness thing that they tap into. I believe all into that stuff too that like the beatles. I don't know there's a great book called Outliers god bread. That rather remember the story. I think that's where the ten thousand hours and hours type thing and there's some there's also talent yes and the timing and the timing timing has to work out with the beatles right there were they. Were working at that place playing eight hours a day. Yes and that. Ten thousand hours thing applies. I believe one hundred percent to stand up when i think back on my own career and you know we some of us talk about like member of those years where you go like. Wow man like. I was working a day job and all week was about like getting to saturday to go to a place. That didn't even want me off. Go onto the. And then i would do ten or twelve minutes and the joy of those ten or twelve minutes would carry me through my next week. I'm like i mean. Like i. So was like high off of that that i would be like. I don't care about how shitty this job is. I can't believe i get to do that again next week. And then you know shit shit. Gigs and bars. Where like they don't want like turn the tv off. You're like how am i supposed to talk to these people. We always have this thing where we'd go The worst thing. The worst was the lakers in the playoffs. Right if you live in la you just need to comedy like as soon as they made the playoffs you'd be like fuck like shows are going to be fucked this month because like people will go to shows less and if you try to have a show during a game they would be like no. Your show is waiting like the game is the priority like you know so like those may june shows you were like oh god man like please either. Let's just get past this or lose so that we can do shows. We're being a comedian. I'm fascinated with comedians. Like i watch all the little special. There's that one out of called dying of laughter. It's a it's a documentary. it's amazing dying of laughter. Which one is that automating. I'm telling you this is it. Blew me away the process and you talked about going out on the road It's all about and have some really good. I think kevin hart some some headliners in. They're talking about it. You got to see it. You got to see it. You know you're laughing is that it. Yeah dying laughing. I'm sorry and talk about their process. And how you have to go out on the road like you talked about in your client and some little hope bunk town. Where and the guys he's like. I had to pay him to perform. Oh yeah people are on their lunch break. Let's not even listening to you. We were talking about how we used to In in these early days we you would. You'd be booked like it'll be like okay. You're spots over here at this restaurant or something. You're like okay and you show up and then right then you go do the people at this restaurant. No there's show and they're like No and you're like wait a minute so we are. We're attacking them like with a with a show while you mean they just they just want to have dinner with their spouse and we're like no no no. You're going to watch stand up. Like i guess i was like. Oh my god. That's because they're like it's not like they're like i'm not a fan. They're literally like i'm trying to eat. Shut on like i didn't. I didn't come to a comedy show. You are now. You're at the show now that that's what i'm saying so fascinating it's like i like the scariest thing i could ever think of. Yeah i get that. I mean the. I think the first spots i ever had there. They are some of the most terrifying moments and bombing bombing. And that's what they talk about a lot in their dying. It's actually. I was crying watching documentary. Because i'm seeing these comedians. They start crying because they go back to take back to when they bombed dude it is. It's the worst feeling that he would be like it would be like if it was like fourth and goal and you caught the ball on the one and then instead of crossing to the goal line you ran to the other end zone and then shit your pants and then everybody was like what happened to that. Guy i bombed. That's what you're saying. It's the worst feeling. It's gotta be the worst and it happens a lot though right. It's not well at the beginning. Happens definitely more and it is what it is is. It's like an internal panic is funny. You could be you could be in. It could be twenty five degrees outside. And if you're bomb you'll start sweating. It's panic sweats. And you just feel like you want to. It's like the feeling of you want the parachute to open. You know you're like man and especially if you have time like they're like you need to keep going like sometimes when you're starting out you doing ten minutes set so if you're bombing at least it's over in ten minutes as you further along you could start us at each shit with your first joke and be like well. I'm going to try to recover and you don't down. You're like this for another half an or like it's it's rough man. Wave your been booed off. Yes you've been booed off. They were like. Please leave your yelling. Fuck you yet like. It was really intense intense in. Here's the thing. I just couldn't imagine like that's not the worst. I've been booed. I have been booed by being booed off. Stage doesn't feel the worst because it feels unwarranted like. It's it's so you know what i mean like if somebody like says Like this whole you know the folks like calls you out in a room you might be like. Oh my god. It's kind of embarrassing. But if everybody was screaming at the top of their lungs. You're like hey like this. It feels too much. I almost feel like the worse. Bombs are quiet bombs where you're going for a laugh and you just hear like nothing like somebody like cleaning their t like you're like okay. That feels worse than like when. Someone's that upset. I'm just telling you're so mad that you're yelling for me to leave. It just feel like you know it was surreal was surreal. But you guys are like a conductor to be at least what i've seen. The comedy shows that. I've gone to like when somebody bombs and the next guy up who even i've had commute though by. Hey i gotta get the comedy. I got to the laughter back in here because you guys dispersed. Just just eight show. Yeah like people don't realize what you wanna follow in comedy is. Somebody does really well on those set on those shows where it's a lineup of like ten plus comics. Sometimes people will think they're like well. That guy sucked so now. You'll shine like no you want the guy to do. Well get the room laughing and feeling good and ride the wave. The waves already there. If somebody kills in front of you you can actually jump on and just keep it going. Yeah if somebody just eats shit or like says something that just ruins the room. You're doing the work to bring them back to being a regular show. Tell me this Of well how do you deal with the bombing. How do you like emotionally. it's actually it's very. It's a good question it's very it is it is inexperienced like the thing is when you when you start off. You don't even know how to process that you do things like psychological things the tell yourself you know it wasn't you. It was them. And then you you start to lie times you record your set so you start going back and you go the phrasing or or they didn't get it. You start to rationalize why you did poorly like like you would like justifying a mistake or a bad decision you know you start to like make make it make sense to you. The simple answer is that the only solution to bombing and having a bad set is having a good set of like. I remember nights where like even on a year ago or so. I remember doing a set in town at a place and and i did a joke. That went fuck in sideways. Like people were like you should leave. They were upset about it. And it still sucked. I was like eighteen years in and like and that sucks so i just went drove to another place Did a set. Yeah same joke. Yeah and it killed and then you feel like that the the emotions of it because if you leave after just that bombing set you take that with you. You take that home. That'd be hard to sleep the hardest. They say comedians are not right in the head. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah yeah yes. It's what they say that. Go past the the bombing will yeah. I've stabbed punch bucket. And i hit a guy with the brick time. This episode of your mom's house is brought to you by woop a lot of to get back at it work on our fitness. And how there's a lot of challenges for us to make right now and we need a little assistance. I get a lot from this thing. It's incredible it's just something you put on your wrist that tracks absolutely almost everything you do. Strain wise recovery wise. It has a strained coach and asleep coach. One of my favorite things is just getting that notification. That says hey is getting late in the day you need to get this much sleep. You should try to go to bed by this time. 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They knew it was coming and it was never never tears though l. really get chose. It was chopped up. It'd be in the front especially if you've ever talked about trent green nutri grain and he was in yes He was our quarterback and he had hurt his knee. And so that's when. Kurt warner came in and kurt warner the rest is history yet. But that was trenton. Green's starting before the ramp before they won that super bowl that's right and so trump goes down. He comes over to us in in anytime. Dick would talk about trent. You knew it with common but it was never tears. It was just and trained greek. Good boy and guy like they would take it. Well you get at the beginning. You're like like is getting wider care. But i think like most coaches. Yeah i think. Great coaches are the ones that are nice and steady like bill. Belichick is the the greatest just consistent. Never too high never too low. Because you get those emotional coaches when you. It's great when you're winning. Yeah but when you start losing that's when you start to lose the team because if you've only got two wins on the season in your your to in ten or to in eight latte. You're tired of this shit. Hey i i can't have anymore. It's not working doing all this raw raw stuff. It's not working And you look at someone. Like pete from the seattle seahawks. I i love him. I would love to play for the aston. Doozy energy positive. A very positive a couple years ago they went to that little loose and phase. I was starting to there was little rumblings that he's going to get fired at all this stuff and the guys were getting tired of. It's because when you're losing. Nobody bikes just want to go to work. Do you as a player. Ever have the thing when you're when you're a fan at home right and this is nothing new to you but you know that like you know fans watch games and they're like why the fuck are they passing the ball in third and whatever you know like why. Don't they run the ball third to a team and your player. Do you guys ever have those same. You've played every game every game every game in the huddle. I'd i'm complaining if it's third and if it's third and four yeah third and four hundred and five. Yeah that's where. I'm my you come. Come come come to the big dog. Come on i can get this. And then we run the ball or something like that or they call player that i know. And that's coming to come to me. I'm like what the hell out of sight. Because i'm the i'm i showed. I've caught this thousand times literally when you call my number yet and understand it but you know that's that's coaching that's playing and that's that's that's normal. Windy you know like is there. Is there a moment or is it a transition were you realize you're not just like in the nfl and a good player. But you're actually like. I'm going to probably be in the hall zor. It's so hall of famers like you guys are your the outliers of the outliers. I mean like it's so it's so remarkable to be in that group special. It's such a special group. I mean and i think a lot of fans like if you really follow the you know the games and you realize like men. These are the standouts of the the the fraction of the percentage of people that make it to the nfl and then these are the very very best. Is it like through your career. You're like oh this building to that. I never would you start to hear from people. People start saying it. I remember Kellen winslow is a few tight in the hall of fame. Yeah the charts senior senior juniors aloe extracurricular stuff going on. Yeah sorry not right. So anyways i was doing something At a golf. And i had gone to a couple of pro bowls by then and he comes up and he's like my guy you know. I look up to the tight end and And he comes up to me and he goes he said something goes hey hall of famers over there and he was talking to me was the first time someone ever said that to me. And it's coming from callan or at least the first time i ever heard and is this. Are you like ten years in. Or i'm about five seven years seven years through the nfl. Gone about about five pro bowls at this point. Okay and so. I was on away. Yeah but you know you still don't hall of fame like that's a whole that's it's really. There's only two hundred when i got into. It was only two hundred twenty six. So now there's two hundred thirty one players. There's there's know six is adamant passers but players. That's it that's really one years that's really small. Yeah so you don't think at least i didn't. At least that was people feel. The joe was think he'd be a hall of fame. Like no yeah. I mean it's crazy thing. Was it hard to. Because i keep going the one of the things that i appreciate the most not just in athletics. I mean in all careers but yes especially outlets is longevity right and you know we talked about that. You played smart taking care of yourself. Is it hard to motivate yourself for season fifteen Yeah it is it. Does i mean you go. Through a little lulls. It was harder in the middle of my career. Yeah where. I was showing up and it was the same because football i it is. It's a bunch of it's routine. Yeah it's just doing the same thing over and over and over and over again. there's no real creek. Besides the games week there's no creativity There's nothing you haven't seen before. So that got kinda old from have to look for ways to and i'd write like little ladders to myself little ways to keep motivating myself like they say jordan. Do that shit up in his head to get himself motivate and. That's what i would do. I'd back here there doubt before address. Doubt new you're all they think overrated. They're saying such. That's better than you would write that not ready to myself. And then i'd read that before the game. And i'm not gonna screw that awesome but towards the end of my career started to save. I started to save it because the window was over like after you get to year twelve. You're like shit only got one year left yeah and then i play that back. Okay i'm gonna put everything. I happen to enjoy it. I really enjoyed myself when i got to kansas Atlanta a my last five years. After i was candy twelve years and then went to atlanta for five years and i was only going to play two years in atlanta. But i kept coming back. And you're enjoying your teammates my teammates and they're paying me pretty. Well hopes that always helps. What i got to the league you. There was a difference in. It wasn't like these half a billion dollar contracts. It wasn't like that. I remember my my rookie deal. I signed a six-year deal for seven million dollars. And i got a three million dollars signing bonus which is a lot of money okay. I'm not out of touch. Yeah but comparatively speaking shit compared to what you're getting now. I remember back then. The guys on my team were like damn seven rich. Boy like that What was the first thing you bought. That was like of that was cheap. You know what i mean. Did you buy something else about house. For two hundred seventy thousand dollars in casey in kansas city. Well for finished oppose later ninety nine and a half bedroom was five thousand square feet. Wow the suburbs of kansas. Now while i also look back now like with some age. On me i go. I have way more compassion for young guys Not knowing how to handle their money. When i was when i was the age of the player i was like these fucking. Why are you spending all your b- but then as you get older you're like oh yeah like who the fuck ready for like whatever three million or twenty five million dollars at twenty two. Yeah i would know how to handle. That then does musicians. Don't don't know kid. Actors given justin bieber that much money and yeah. Why do you expect them not to go. Lo crazy of course and everybody tells you how great yard and you've got millions of dollars to give whatever you want and why and then like you you know. Most people probably like yeah this. This is always going to happen to the. I mean these checks are going. I'm twenty two these all the time and then you know and then you then you start you start if you're a fan of the nightlife yeah Which i was a fan of the nightlife. Yeah enjoyed you. Had your time going on single for ten years. Nfl good time. I enjoyed myself. What was the best thing to go to for having a good time. Miami and miami in vegas okay. Nothing's changed take good. I like miami in vegas. I mean you can't really do. Yeah i mean you have a good time in miami. You know you got problems. Yeah the latino in europe gore's parties like i've been to miami where they're like cool will meet up at midnight. Nearly wait what we're gonna meet up at midnight. Bite has a halloween party out there every year and i never gone to it because of football but eh on the invite it says from from nine o'clock till ten. Am yeah nine to ten am the next day. That's a part of the party. that's party. I'm like and if it has that. Little little sean mccoy touched where he's like. No males allow. We're not looking for men to come. He has his circle of friends. Is like it's just going to be us and ladies. that's part. I'm getting older now. I can't. I can't do it like i used to if i can get the three. Am two to three am. Yeah that's a view real. That's rare for me. Yeah i changed completely. I mean before we had kids we was talking about like how i would go to bed regularly like on tuesday night at two thirty in the morning and wake up at ten to eleven and be like. What am i going to do today. And now we are up at six thirty to seven every morning and by noon. I've done ten things like that. Workout did meetings. And it's just a complete change. And i feel like my alcohol tolerance is. I'm like a child. I have a couple of drinks. And i feel it for three days. I don't. I don't drink that much anymore. Yes little bit here and there and your joints. everything's fine. you're good i. I am very Cognizant of a brilliant health hacking and intermittent fast you do yeah magnesium supplementation okay Mcat oil a sauna. A cold showers. Oh well you're gonna tate all that stuff. Wow to get your get your mind. Body center ends going. Do you prepare at. I imagined without knowing that you would have a real preparation for like leading up to sunday's going on the air yet like you take care. A whole routine got routine with time. I'm going to go to bed. Wake up how early are you there on a sunday at magic five. Am on on what's wake up time. Okay wake up and get around four forty five five am. We're we're on set at five forty five now shit getting ready so this is something i wanted to ask you so i imagine that a lot of people that when you're playing and the you know it's game we were paying chiefs for playing the falcons and then they fuck. I gotta. I gotta take care of gonzalez's this week this is gonna suck right. But who did you ever say like There's gonna be some work this week. I don't know if i ever had that attitude is like now or you know. Just like i got i really. I wanna bring usually it's Honesty care about the other. Pl- i i should answer so like rodney harrison. Okay he's a thumper in the day he probably wouldn't even play that much now because the way his style of play he couldn't do that nowadays of that physicality really take your head off all right Come over and over the middle. You're gonna lay you out. I got i got careful I think it will kam. Chancellor the strong safety no shit. He's six and we had some battles and yeah. And i. I got him a couple of times. Yeah he got me a couple of times but he was six three two hundred and thirty pounds playing strong safety. The safety position really grew over all positions. But i've met too. I'm like you play safety dude. Like they're so tall so long and he was laying people out larry putting putting. Yeah yeah and that was just right when the rules were changed so that style of play. It doesn't that big knock your head off guy over the secondary is just. It's not there anymore. And what about like can't you can't do it. It's against the rules. Because obviously you get your run aroused but you're blocking on like wizar- horrible memories of blocking anyone. Well yeah i mean it's a mismatch for us. Yeah it's probably the biggest mismatch football it is. It's the biggest mismatch and football. We have it both ways as tight ends right going blocking defensive in we're two hundred and fifty pounds on average or whatever it is yeah and and i was a little bit less than that and those guys are around two hundred ninety pounds right and so it's not fair. Their you know their bench and five hundred pounds bench three hundred fifty or whatever. They're just bigger physically. Rhinos sucked blocking those guys. Yeah in you have to be crafty. 'cause i can't out power you yeah like khalil mack. Like i mean. He's a kind of a hybrid rusher. Linebacker type i would rather block khalil mack though because he's a little bit cooler. Yeah then the big traditional reggie white defensive in that that yeah or michael strahan when he played. I'd be ready my damn his last like east two hundred ninety pounds. Yes i'd rather go against. The guy was to sixty like khalil. Mack sure 'cause i'm quick. I'm really quick. So i can get in front of them. Yeah apartment. I got a hold on for three seconds seconds. The magpie sure so that was that was always the but then on opposite. I have the biggest mitch match mismatch in the passing game right because at least for back then now these linebackers really getting bigger faster stronger. But i'm going into linebacker. That i know i'm faster than sure and i'm going against the strong safety or corner who's way smaller than me so i'm going to outweigh you. Buy thirty pounds. So they're either gonna throw it up or you're gonna even if you garden house guarded so many times i just dump over and it. Yeah and you have the basketball hops to unite sucks man. I mean the. I feel like what i watched. I used to watch those like reggie white highlights of the hump move. Oh and like like no tape. No gloves just like i just woke up and wash my hands as here we go and just throwing people throwing the thing about these highlights like the clips down that i always remind myself of. Is that when you see. Somebody just like getting bodied or burnt. You know it's like yeah but the guy that's getting his ass kicked in that play is a bad s. Like you know what i mean like. We're watching the The that play. I watched it. So many times where Da metcalf buddha baker. And i was like but you know. Buddha runs like a fucking four three forty or something like that gives lightning fast. This shit is unbelievable to me man. Yeah like and he's starting at least ten ten yards back from him to track right there and i got in front of me having star he had to restart being. That was incredible. When i saw that i was on my couch. Jumping up and down. Yeah like all athletes out there got like this made us jump out of our. Yes just like patrick mahomes donor behind the backs of that was equivalent to that. That's something that'll be on his highlight when he's oh yeah. I mean i remember seeing that dude's kinda like peeked into the combine. Last year wasn't like father intensely but they are like i remember seeing a time and they're like you always do ways like to thirty five hundred. What does he ran a really crazy. Forty But but to me i felt like what would be embarrassing was what was that khalil. Mack thing. 'cause i identified with the offensive lineman the one on this play. Where like after the play. There's mac and then the guy's and then he just throws him house like seventy eight seventy eight. And i'm like going back i'm like did everybody see asking myself god. Is that going to be on sportscenter. Four a rookie to as a rookie. And then he's like. I'm still pushing these like. I'll just judo judo swing you. Oh my god. He's three like three thirty and you're getting. He has no memories of that ever happening happenings. Besides that play. That's when you average guy sees the football and they're like oh i could or whatever it's like what if you only knew how big an explosive someone like hulu aaron donald. Oh my god man. It's ridiculous podcast. With with bert kreischer and we like challenges that we challenge each other to two things right put ten is gonna play one on one he goes. Do you think we could like Blocked double team. Aaron donald as a thing. And i was like that happens in the nfl and he wins. What are you talking. He's like social. We do go. I'll tell you what i would love to watch you do it. And then i'll ride in the back of the hospital. The ambulance with you like no. We can't do that dude. we'll die. They had a joe prude. Burt pros vs joes strand hosted it. Yeah yeah that was i saw. I remember watching what was named slash kordell stewart. I remember that specifically that the regular dude was like a regular like just goofy guy who was like record. Ill see what you got and like the other pros on that episode. Like there was a baseball player and basketball player. And they're were like dude. You have no idea and coral stewart. Lay down like it was a goal line that was like oklahoma drill It was like put it up. And just trump this Kevin greene was on there too. And i remember just delighted soon. Yeah those guys. All sign waivers guy. Yeah it's on you and by the way you might do. I mean nothing better than what i mean. I don't wanna see like it happened to some guy who didn't ask for but some guy who's like you know what tony can sells. You ain't shit. And i'm going to show you right now like okay. Let's do it. Let's lineup and see how it goes. I had the separation of Athleticism is quite different. Yeah yeah that's why. I love Side play pick up basketball a lot. I did that all throughout my career. That was my off season training every play in the pro leagues i played. I played for the miami heat. Wouldn't play for their hands. Some of the team tried out pat pat riley. Yeah it was my Coach yeah in. Karen spoelstra expos. Yeah so so. But i'm not a pro. I'm good. I'm right on that. Yeah i would never been a starter right. But i maybe could have made a roster. Whatever and i'd go play pickup basketball with all these guys that think. They're really good right in the neighborhood and the neighborhood really good. they're good. They played probably high school basketball. And i'm dominating them and these guys really think they have a shot. Yes go play pro. Like fro arkady. Because you crossed up your friend your buddy works at the you know the department store like it's not the same thing people understand the levels of competition as you move up to the professional. It's night and day lades night and day. I've told this story before. But like i remember being in high school you know being a two way starter and like having division fantasies right like the natural. I wanna play like watch the games or play. And i go with a friend of mine who was recruit highly recruited and played at the level. I went with him to miami game. As back in the orange bowl and were standing on the sidelines and just stand there and the plan syracuse and those guys came out of the tunnel. And i'm looking at like my position players. And i'm i level with their numbers. I'm seeing here. And i was like definite. Don't play division one. These guys were killing me genetic but it was like it was like. That's all i needed and i was like all right. That's like these guys are monsters. Men yes all your height or bigger and they were like three fifteen downtown's like this is not to athlet. Yeah quick dudes did it was. It was a whole other thing. It was a whole other thing. Did you talk shit. Were you trashed at no. No no. I've found when i did that. That would take me out of my game interesting. But i enjoyed it when somebody else would talk to me you did. Oh yeah yeah it would fuel you. Oh yeah like it gave me. That's all i needed like. I want you to what kind of what kind of trash get talked to you like. You ain't shit. Yeah all nothing yeah. That's the normal. You ain't shit that that's probably the big. You're you're you're a bitch pro bowl today. Okay okay and my my biggest comeback was always especially when when you go to the pro bowl. You're playing against the best of the best in someone like me and him aren't gonna talk shit to each other normally is not going to happen because we have that mutual respect for each other here. It's always the shit talk and always comes from the guy that doesn't even. I don't even know who you are right and i would tell them that on the field. Yes that that's the way i would talk. Show that's one of my favorite ones like. Yeah i'd great clip of What's his name. Was the running back for the texans. He's few years barry foster area foster where it's like. There's a clip that rotate was kind of viral with someone was like. Yeah yeah man. We'll talk about it because he was turned around again. I know you are laying. It was all about like you know my name. I don't know your name. I love that shit. I always said that. I would pay if the nfl was. Hey there's a package where you can pay a thousand dollars and this season you can have the field. Mike pumped into the broadcast be like house two thousand sound. That's what i wanna hear. I would love to hear that. I- bums me out when they when it's all bleeped and you. I'm like i wanna hear the real shit talk. Oh you love it. Yeah i want. I want the locker room like this turkish Was soccer coach. Have you when you get when you leave. The there's less rules you know like this is the kind of stuff i wanna see on an nfl broadcast alright halftime. Let's go what's going on coach. What the yeah can't be real real. There's no way thrill that's as a turkish soccer coach. Who was like fucking embarrassing. Oh my god it's awesome right. I wish your senior the bull. No never seen that documentary the Do you gotta wash year the bull. You're the bull follows. Miami northwestern high school's football team for a season. And it's this is in the early two. Thousands miami northwestern has produced. I mean think about this. This is when the movie came out which is at least ten years ago Something like twenty. Nfl players main like for one high school and then like countless one players. And it's like it's in liberty city which is a rough part of miami and the coaches aren't the most aggressive like i mean that shit right there times ten slapping people. I've never seen anything like that. Oh that's amazing to the opening. What's wrong with that guy. Over the opening scene two year the bull is it's halftime and i think at the state championship game in there in the locker room. And this dude it. They have helmets on but is he has a glove on he's just like smash smash and dudes heads in and he's just says. Why is the defense not working. That's it like fifty. Bobby not work to every head. Everyone's like fuck man like they're not like hey let's let's switch to fuck in man coverage of why is this not working. It's wild. oh man. I using coach luke when they kicked off the plane. I don't know if i saw that. Yeah kick them out because he was talking to. The shit kicked out. He's like he's passionate. Man know packing like dude. He's got kicked off the flight. Little half dead. I think that was his. Yeah oh my god. Yeah talking that you would think that doesn't exist anymore. Yeah do all right now. We're gonna play rate those tits. We're gonna show you ten. I'm just going to manage just kid. You gotta run though right. You said you've gotta run when we started. I got yeah. Okay okay okay. Yeah first of all. I really appreciate you coming by. Thank you very much for this. It's fun it's fun to talk to you man. I wish i could talk to you for a long time. Congratulations on all your success. 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Ep. 96 - Eli Roth Joins

Going Deep with Chad and JT

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Ep. 96 - Eli Roth Joins

"What's up everybody before we began this fire podcast with Roth we want to let you know that we are brought to you by Roman Roman thank you so much for supporting going deep with China jt Roman switch are a clinically proven way to last longer in bed you heard me right to give you straight up endurance in the sack you WanNa talk about sack I'm talking about coitus and that's a word whenever you're ready get Roman dot com slash x x x that's triple X. Vin diesel steak stream? Let's start the pod so much for keeping our trims boobed for looking after our hogs and making sure that our grennell regions are well-maintained because when you go into yeah or like kind of us that didn't exist so Quentin wrote this character and I was like I'm going to get up at four. Am and go to the gym chest everyone was waxed in their chests yes and I was like I'm going to be the dude that just as enough and we're not there was like there's no way in it was glorious the neighborhood and you see a nice lawn you know that that guy cares in my talk about your lawn talking about your jobs so he's Oh natural it's fine yeah actually I remember an inglorious bastards I like was in all of your chest hair through the white beater I come out is like one of the first can hour and a half before like I picked up at six in the morning before shooting lift two hours at night and eat every ninety minutes I put like forty or fifty pounds of muscle kind of lifting where you're doing put me in the oven and say this is Chad Kroeger coming in with John J. T. podcast guys before we began we are brought to you by manscaping landscape thank you computer labs and chest hair I gave up shaving there was a there was like when cw exploded just like one hundred years older than you guys and there was like it's all right it's just a side effect right and I don't mean to be needed but I think we're in an unfortunate charen our we can't see Chad's face or my own all over I'll do a live cut today I think we can keep that part in and then we'll just cut in right after the fix okay yeah worry so yeah you're right astor's I was like I'm putting a stop to this now and I'm going to bring back chest hair it was like a total conscious decision and once that happened then it's like girls don't want another like okay uh yeah maybe we'll go back and forth between the angle on Charlene back on Mr Roth who is our guest today kind of like the the three s Sam Sandler Stiller Seinfeld they're like the holy trinity of like Jewish movers but there was like funny never sheesh lobby guys oh they don't just throw out the nickname the bear Jew right there's a lot of you earned it I earned it it's just like I burn through the motors on those things right we're big on trim I I've I've I've heard that for me it's kind of a lost cause well I can but it's just like uh-huh uh-huh oh things I noticed yeah well I'm a big fan of teen wolf and two yeah so I wanted to do sort of have my own I mean look there was a lot wouldn't get into this but they're always been established because this might get cut in the school yeah sorry dudes sorry doing like heavy squad do whatever I could but I would do like two hour in the morning to two hours in the morning and our night I was eating every ninety minutes when people see what you look like then you can actually it was like total vanity but I went and I was like I was going to be in shape and so then a friend of mine from college was writing for men's fitness anthem and just yeah he just walks through the door he can't get through it all the physical comedy that you could do with woody he might be less afraid of everything to if he had more size on Tarantinos like I'm taking your title like all these people are like I'm GonNA win your most fit director and I remember on the set of my first movie cabin fever I went into makeup trailer one of the camera I'm like yeah but there's behind the scenes look good and then I remember like one of the saw directors was like dude I watched the cabin fever behind himself so fucking mad at you emme lights like the guy doesn't look tired he looks in shape yeah and he's like my girlfriend was like why can't you look like it totally works right razzing so it's like if your movie isn't as good or doesn't unlike Asia somewhere because like my buddies fans of the hostels in college and we're like this actually happen like we we found a website yeah that was in the Philippines probably but I think people might be more afraid of him yeah that's true yeah I wonder I wonder how he would have turned out if we have Roman Polanski's had parkers and beards like they were they're heavy and then so I was like I I wanted to change the image of film directors I was like what if we're like in shape and I know the the behind the scenes WJR and you're bored of like drugs and hookers and everything lost it's thrill like Ooh what's it like to kill someone I could fully see guys doing that so my friends told me it looked like the actor good for best bronze yeah and you won that like that's all I wanted like I want to do like Woody Allen movie although it's probably controversial and just get him you know what I mean smoke like nothing in this thing your face and your face is falling off yeah so then hostile like I read this thing about what where you could in my face and I was like what if I shaved and I started shaving shaving chunks in my face off and I was like and it just became an obsession of like you can be totally healthy go to the gym can you won't get caught I thought yeah there are people that that would for sure do that they were even worried about getting caught or do you think they thought like oh even if we get caught people won't yeah because you never know one scene woody with no like Roy girth on them yes haven't thrown around kettlebells kettlebells regime and then do some way tie actually let me get close and then if they do then what if they just want to kill me so I based it on that I never found out if it was real but then I started looking at history be like five years ago it's crazy and I'm movie very personal to me all my movies are personal in a way everything starts with a thought like cabin fever I had gotten this infection ends on DVDs we're like a big thing and I was like what if I could because you know when you're like a movie in there it's hard to meet girls like what if I look good on the behind the scenes it like once I went from one sixty two five now at one eighty five CE- went from like film director sized to like we'll film director side when I grew up was like say had and I started like I had upon and the actors like what the fuck are you doing I was like well I don't know I feel like I have a pimple is near like dilly give it you're not in I have the body that's going to hold muscle is to eat a machine I go to lunch and eat four pieces was awesome too but I got two to five out what do you normally water the Guy Jack and then woody and then just be like the movie called problematic yeah pretty much every movie ever I did that monologue well rick from suits little bit more hair rick would love that frequently very happy to hear that I heard was that a real thing going to pay ten thousand dollars to walk to put a bullet in someone's head to know what it felt like to kill somebody and I was like I I can't tell if this is real or not but that seems real like someone would do that if you were super reds snuff films work in like do people still do that and someone had told me that they talked to someone who did it and did snuff took me through the whole process and I was like yeah for sure and they're just like the they're like okay if you go from London to Amsterdam you have to take the ferry not the train because they don't have cameras you bring your own camera you pay someone and there's a lot of Algerian emigrants and they'll just kidnap won the gangsters will just kidnap one have them in a warehouse you show up you sit up the camera you film yourself doing whatever the fuck you want to them you take the Carrie looking at what people do when they're pretty certain that no one's looking they won't get caught and you look at what like then I looked at the photos of Lindy England and all the stuff that was going in Abu Ghraib prison in the US make as much money at least you have that on yeah yeah I would like to direct moving that'd be like the best part about it was the directors bronze guess exactly like if there was a category where you could pay and a person apparently the person like volunteered for like I'm really poor I want to get money for my family like just behind me now of course obviously you'd walk like you agree like eating their own shit and throwing shit in the audience and I was like what is it and it was it was Christine choice documentary classes taught Allah with Todd Phillips doing hate it and I remember seeing that movie made in two thousand fifteen so I was actually I watched knock knock about a lot of what came to pass afterward this right no so I thought what if I didn't get documentary about this that was my first instinct and I thought well anybody who really does this there's no way they're going to up to Barnard to like meet girls and I remember these girls that were starving on the front of the line and I was like were they doing and it's like well they're starving because the janitors donor I just saw a lot of kids I remember when I was at Nyu there were these girls that were starving themselves at Columbia University we used to go to Columbia to like meet girls are a year a year ahead amused Todd Phillips Brett Ratner so you heard I remember hearing stories todd doc I heard stories kids were coming out of the class throwing up kids were like this kid film someone the hierarchy you love talion horror right love it yeah I'm obsessed so I I used to watch kimball hall causing and before the Inter House like is this real did they really kill people go back to New York at the end that's the trope of all these old because they're kind of considered the bottom of the barrel sleaziest like least respected hormones and I loved them really Oh yeah because the people were doing it to our you know beneath us from their vantage point I don't know I think so I mean I've talked to people who were I was like are snuff films still real like how Renault which always starts with an another thought which was stone cannibals get the munchies I'd wanted to do a cannibal movie like an old school Italian Cannibal moving follow the conventions what starts in New York goes to the it was like a freak at NYU and shaving their head and their nose which at the time was controversial And I remember going my friend went to Columbia and I was like wow this is like real college I go there's a girl that's impaled with a spike that's going up her that like comes out her mouth and I was like how did they do that and the director had been brought up on murder charges and had to bring in the if the body there and you go it's like people now I've I can't prove that but it sounds pretty pretty real terrifying so all of that and then like green inferno just ahead of me was m night and then Brett Ratner too money talks twenty six and then Todd Phillips obviously the road trip at the craziest courtesy would go up to Barnard to we care but they don't care enough to do anything more than push a button on their phone just to show everyone that there are a lot like a selfish hassle for go back to like flaunting their money whatever the however kids who were in the class of Todd like this is insane so yeah then like a from my class was like a Black Swan a few other people but the big ones like Uber Alec everyone in the plan tweeting about this thing and the government was you know we're we know Joseph Kony we've been tracking him for years everyone's like Joseph Kony is aww that's it it's going to be put I started seeing kids like it was really Kony twenty twelve I wrote the script and Kony twenty twelve and everyone's like Carney twenty twelve twelve and you just saw like Justin no electricity I mean it was four hours of traveling dry Land Rover getting the boat two hours in the boat in the village and we had to show them iphones for the first time you have a location of eating disorders they're like other heroes get the guys covered I don't know they look really cold and hungry I've no idea what it'd be hard thing to do with New York then when I was writing green in actors improved effects that's controversial movie was so I was like I need to a movie and I asked you thought like you can't do that today because there's nothing left the Amazon's gone there's like piling up body throwing up gang signs and photos and you're like wow good time having a good old time like whoa look what you do when you can do that to someone with absolutely no repercussions and you being arrested and then of course crashed in the jungle that they save and they're cannibals like oh food but we're your Savior's buck you and they eat them and put them in it and then I thought well if one of them had weed that had like they've been doing I walk and got like crazy like laced weed than what if what if you took I was just sitting there thinking eastone when I did it like what if if your friend died like if you gave the cannibals weed than they would get the munchies and that would make it even worse that was basically the entire movie was an excuse to do that Ed tribe even though they don't really care about it they care about training on twitter they care that's every time they're arrested they're like all of them were like posing for photos just so excited that they're going to get their photo taken I would have started with wizard of Oz and work my way to Cannibal Hong Kong I need all the way the caddyshack but the kids they got it and the kids want to speak Spanish they didn't WANNA learn cash because they want to be in touch with the modern world but they're so isolate and they're like farmers they're not they don't look in the movie but we went and we were like we had a scene in the movie and and they're like what like she's like why am I what if we take this python it's like it's going to be which is fine but I just remember thinking like this is like a new thing of sort before the term social justice warrior came on I was like this is like slack division this is Nick are freaky art school you're at Nyu I was in emily and Tash in the film school and did you have any heavy hitters in your class with you right ahead of me was like half in and I was like this could be an awesome after going the green in front of where we shot in the Amazon tribe these people had never seen cameras we conceptual explain to this village where the movie was weeks later we got we got permission from the village they said yes and I was like that's amazing would should like et was advising he goes no cannibal Holocaust and it was like what is a photo laziest form of activism in Virtue Signal everyone just knowing cares about the cause the care about being recognized for it so I was like I want to write a movie about kids like that who go in the Amazon I wanted to be part of it and they all wanted like the kids like they would the kids would it was so fun shooting this village like the kids were so fun and they would come up to me and like my Trans Zien was like dude I gotTa do this article on like most fit professionals can I put you as most director on the board you don't even know to this day gene we're going cannibals gave munchies yeah and then knock knock I was engaged to Lorenza and I was just like and there was a movie called death game that my friend colleen camp were produced with health insurance and it was like I don't understand nice and they're like well there's no wars these kind of need a cause and they're like the theory was that the girls were belichick places no wants to be like these there's like a baby python five kids holding it and I go what were they thinking they're like well the kids think it would be funny if they throw it in a cage with the Americans are and slicing Dick's off and like ripping beat us out with a hand abortion and stabbing it's no that's their idea of what movie is what movie would you show I mean to basically go to the village elders and say can we shoot here and so I had the Peruvian produce you do it with the Peruvians and proving producers like look we're GonNa have to explain to these people what movie both girls look I want everyone started fighting for the python so we basically like were dangling the python we're about to shoot it and the growing nothing bite and and that's actually a really good idea so I knew that some of the girls were fighting and I was like I was like hey I was like how am I going to get them to take a python to the face and I went up to one girl I ah yeah but it's a baby it's not really gonNa hurt like it could it could actually bite you though really yes so we're like okay so if the camera's here like we tell the kids just drop the python behind their heads so happy that they were getting were paying the more three weeks and they would make in a year so the whole villages like super into the movie and they're building the cage and doing on the stuff and then when she gets it ready for us to shoot and then we we show up and then she's going to go to Santa Iago Chile where we're doing the New York interiors and the whole villages like we have a gift for you I mean she was like I have a boyfriend in an apartment in Santiago like I can't refuse I'm not refusing your baby but let's just say it's the director would be like Boston the kids they have a snake they they caught a snake a python they wanna come the kids holding a python like it's a baby manager go out there we did and the village to language speaking in Spanish it's someone who speaks cash and someone who speaks Spanish like the older people speak Spanish the kids the always be speaking baby and she's like to like a two year old not just the have and she's like very generous of the mother yeah yeah is and I go how do we do that they're like we come out here with the generator and television and we show the movie for the first time so like three weeks as I'll show well he called me child slaves and he rapes them I get it but it's the laziest form of health and it's like it's like it gets fashionable believe in this 'cause right it's also known even give uh of him like in the House the kids so I was like no no no they thought it was a comedy I go why would you show children like they're only conception of what movie is lives there because it's like going back and forth with the boat it's noise going to have an all the village worked on the movie lot of our farmers they'd like were out of work they were older look like on camera like it's right on top of them and the kids like okay okay action y slaps like slaps them in the face with a python one taken Christian missionaries from Super Church in Texas and they've been going down the river village to village converting them to Christianity and they pull up to our freeze frame it the things like the fangs out this thing like this far in the girls eyeball that's what the shoot was like it was amazing our production designer sudden like an army they just come over the hell screaming and just pulling it there it's just total chaos one hundred twenty villagers in like war paint I the kids tied up it's the Michetti I'm like ready to go ready and we'll just see like we hear this noise I'm like what's going on and these two pontoon boats pull up and they're they're like the rambling but like shut me up talk too much but like our first our first Dave shooting I was like we gotta get the big scene where the kids are all all the Americans are kidnapped a baby book it's GonNa live here with it's like his village Mommy and daddy and then I can come and visit you so that was the thousand five of green inferno it was it was crazy I mean and they were so fucking angry we're gonNA fuck up your shooting so they sit in the river blocking our shot and after five minutes it was one hundred ten degrees like screw this and so she like everyone's liquor last night to gather around and like we've got you something she's like you didn't have to do like no you're you're one of us we love you we have a gift for you and they brought her shooting in Impro- it's thankfully we have like twenty minutes of sign because it would be like porn rain and Sun hundred degrees one hundred ten degrees in the jungle and I'm like I got like the devil is here and we're like the whole trip was worth it and of course I'm like so excited I'm like we gotta films we've got a film this confrontation with the missionaries and they like village looks a lot like the movie but there are some corrugated metal that we'd to build a cage like a little bit of art direction had to be done sir production designer Marie she she goes to the village and she just they're like they've been cracked the blow darts they wing up and it starts on Lorenzo's face and she's just like lay she's like a little thing over the trees in another one and out and said please come back oh no kidding how long were you on location we were five weeks in Peru wow shooting out of la I love it I love it I did cabin fever and the where people can get you on the phone and the Nice thing about shooting that's like shooting shutting Chile Iceland I did move in China with Rizza Wu Tang we've got man with the woods in North Carolina integrates hostile one I didn't Prague we hold the most fun life imitating art I mean we would like I feel like it'd be easier to focus too they'll have like the distractions of unit any distractions also like there wasn't Social Media Nope you've put the time difference is great because it's like not a China like everyone heads on I had five people holding me back when police let me film this near like this is a cultural thing you've got to let the village handle it and the village in Prague you're like nine hours ahead so everyone's kind of asleep and then maybe it like seven o'clock seven pm your phone starts ringing and then you're like there's if there's a window of one hour fight about it I was like dude good modeling for your children right there yes Boston man that's why I'm three thousand miles away do love my mass holes but yeah it's nice to live here like pull out of their boat and this guy from Texas starts stomping around and then someone's like oh it's not the devil it's alert Roth making movie he's like and I love and I did it just to be around him because I love and we spend like a year together writing and it was just so funny because I was like the nerdy white Jew from the suburbs texture similar it felt that felt personally me like in the way that it's like it's like hard to be a dude and then like and they see it's a curtis village I put like spikes with heads on it and on the American side of the dead bodies everywhere and like the American screaming and all the kids eh tyrants like what's up buddy you WANNA get fucking wrapped in the head with a tie and he's like no and we're in the backseat like oh you're you're he's like your friends your dad's GonNa get beaten to death is your fantasy nightmare my roommate came in I know you know your wife was ex wife I don't mean this to be disrespectful but awesome Crow Russell Crowe Yeah we had the best time doing that with Batista Rizzo was amazing yeah raises like well he's like a genius to he really is like all the people in like this kind of like war paint and they're just like they start screaming they're just like they start singing songs but Jesus they're like this is it we found it we found the Satan's village as being like the Nice Sweet Dad and just basically reducing him to a feral creature but also they they played all the things that aren't cool it's also how like when he's a dad he sort of wake them happy to find that person that's their whole game is that these girls would just like to find the one guy that will say no because they believe that all men are absolute pieces of shift from whenever abuse they suffered in their life third like the kids it's father's Day in the wife's just taking them away the white smart dominates the house and he's just like yesterday he's kind of relegated to the corner everyone's like you knew your all the things I think this will be the scene everyone talks about shock when like would we take a real python and we drop it on this other girl and she goes no no no I want to do it i WanNa do it my oh that's a good idea that could work it felt like an affair condensed down into like one night or something like that because those girls are crazy so they go through all the pre mutations of how like a relationship can that even Keno with all the photos and all the family it's all just a mask and that was the fun with can't I think he's so great so underage his performance in the movie is taking him the part where it's also that thing in relationships where you start to take each other for granted an couples that like there's no it's not a sacs anymore it's like new they're they're a unit he's playing Marilyn Monroe in a movie for great so Lorenza Zahn Penny dreadful so it was it was a great cast and we we really rehearsed on the girls like just keep going up to him op I also like the sort of idea that the girls almost never existed and that he just like just destroy was like all that side of him that he just kept burying burying bearing just your best friends their partners the kids but like in the beginning he's like trying to get the wife like to have sex than the kids come in it's like everything's it's just all his fresh which is boys bad and then you know it goes to hybrid extremes but I related to because I was like man I kind of see where the students coming from I wanNA ever I want to be the guys thank you want it to be like guy who say not because I'd like to think I would say no but then we you know if you can get away with no and that's the point is that these girls are always looking for the guy that will say no looking there erupted and he just went crazy smashed everything in his house yeah the the thing that you reference to the Free Pizza I love the way you shot that monologue because I think you only I don't have like fucking wicked acts and nothing kid but years ago talking about lake how you had buddies who had the little bats that they would give out at Red Sox and everything yeah we did some photography here but we shot that we found really doubles for California for Calabasas in L. A. It's crazy Dion Chili does same coastline yeah a lot of the you think you're cool like you were a DJ in the nineties and you're rallying in the scene where he DJ's was probably my favorite scene in the movie because you really do you like oh he is cool yeah he even touching him and touching his hand and him moving to this chair and they just keep having fiscal contract it just keeps saying good but he likes he's being but he loves it because these girls are like tapping into that good at Dj yeah and then he starts to believe that he's cool again while he's and these girls are like no you are analogous hot that's exactly it that's the whole seduction is that they're like Oh my God you're so smart My roommate came and I explained the story to him that he goes but did Kiana sleep but the women data goes Nice. Yeah that's exactly what we wanted to be like it's that's the whole idea it right I love dark humor I like yeah it's very very uncomfortable for me green inferno is like the stone cannibals get the Munchies they attacked Daryl spar from spiking so we just kind of musical chairs we worked on a while with ANA to arm us who's doing amazing bond girl now oh yeah on its bond girl dipped once but it's like it's just a single on him the whole time and he really is like sad and hilarious there's so many different components I just learned so they're effective easy to use fast acting and they don't require prescription so get ten dollars off your first order of swipes and free two day shipping like you look a mythbusters iphone and he's kind of like a dad and we kept saying the fund with the movie was like it was like this chess game where his mouth keep saying notice we keep saying Prague it's fun shooting shooting in Chile was amazing three did knock knock chilly it's great knocking chilly yes the opening you have the Hollywood sign the rent's up played the wife the end of the movie those policy talion Oh really Francesca Capucci who was it hard directing your wife look the ooh Superman two or something this guy took my parking spot at Tony Roma's one timeline to kids little kids and roll down the window I was like dude he took my party's back because yeah so what you want in East Brisbane but he's so funny and he loves movies and he's so knowledge from Boston Newton mass is that like Boston Boston it's not like fact Massol kid repeats a no dude if shows up at three and some did you order pizza nope okay we'll hear no guy will that's what it is and that's when I was like is there any is to what he's saying and he'd really and I haven't seen Keanu reeves do and other seen like that thing look I think that we kinda bonded about the release the is there Gerald and they do it in their fucking fighting fighting they're all like eating's and then like wild card is ripping apart a little girl runs away with the leg she got the cookie from the cookie jar I like activists to it's just I was dying well that was like with the once upon a time in Hollywood the Hamackova I love that movie so much it wasn't didn't get the proper treatment that we're hoping for but it's nice that people have watched it and I think his performance is really real it's great blocked me he's against Oh movie I was like I'd heard about before I found myself like cracking up I'm like was about no it's great yeah they're just funny parts in there yeah did you want and that's the craziest thing tracking a fun it's like Oh yeah I think all your moves have a lot of that brought to you by doing what's up buddy you gotTa fucking Prom Kid I remember going to the movies like my friend's Dad and there was some guy in the parking lot and wouldn't move and he honked a little guys got and I were partners we made this move together called aftershock that our friend Nicholas directed and I wrote with him and I acted in and we just and we cast Lorenza in it and we it was seven weeks of nights we had the best time shooting that movie it was a party and Lorenzen I really clicked and she and her English was perfect I was like wait you're Chilean American but she lived in America and we're more pissed about shit from two thousand years ago today that we weren't two thousand years ago like if there was a Nazi and you told me and I'm not kidding on the street that person is always open like we're in it together but neither of us are trapped and like if let's do this as friends so we also WANNA keep working together we're like if we ever want a future where we altogether it's like that's it there's no more barrier fused yeah like you can handle that and she's so cool and such a trooper and so fun and has just the most amazing yes so working together there's like a shorthand I mean we trust each other and there is a little bit like if we get an argument we try not to like fight in front of the vein she might speak English but she's great for the movie and I met her and I was like Oh my God this is GonNa be a star so she came and then we were lucky to Kiana and and then you know after knock knock we're like okay let's take a break I do want to just like put her in death wish and then how's the clock in its walls the part was right where I had her played the mom for that my kids movie that I did uh-huh proud of her I was like I remember meeting you like a girl from Chile who quit journalism school and now you're tuned scenes of Brad Pitt it was pretty awesome I yeah what's it like I love nothing bad has ever happened to the girl nothing nothing it's fountains it's manufactured happiness soccer games I'll go ahead no I was going to say so to like Grad school to really relearn directing via acted like like what is the the opportunity to sort of watch the master up-close yeah and he'd been telling me about energy I was like let's just keep make movies together and so I wrote knock knock for her and then we found Ana colleen camp called me she found this girl she's incredible she's literally just plain can like make movies together which we would like to then we have to like split before we have kids and before so we did it's cool and then I was like so happy like I went to the I love blue crash in fact I remember when I was sound mixing cabin fever I was like we have to end early today et writes the Grove and I watch Blu crush grows wonderful Jack Black when Kate Blanchett and so we had a great time like we divorced we were like we kind of split up while I was editing house at the clock but we're still friends like look we're not I mean she was just twenty two twenty Matt and we're like twenty twenty you're a different person and I always sort of new like we kinda the philosophy like if we feel the flicked show and I killed her off by world from that and then which is really disgusting and then Green Inferno and green for and I was like if you once you guys have diarrhea and the that's it and it was before the war all of his relatives gone like once everyone in that side from Europe has been liquidated there's like that was it there was no when he was writing the script I was like his Jewish fact checker he called economies like okay I've got a question he's like he's like what did you give a Nazi absolution if leads you know and we look we were engaged for knock knock I mean green front we were like aftershock we're flirting green and then we got kinda she moved to La then director and hemlock grove thinking in the war and I was like I'm going to be honest with you I didn't know what the word absolution met until I was twenty five Jews or money lenders and we collect interest on everything including anger of once upon a time in Hollywood which you shooting receive the police and when they're fighting and when when Bradley kills the Manson Gang I was there on sat with them it was awesome and I was just opposite like I forgot to hit record and then Tarantino's like it happens is that true wow I forgot about that did you know that Yeah Ching Tarantino direct work with them to honor and glory means glorious was one of the greatest opportunities in my life it was just like I directed three movies and then I thought like what if I could go back so it's not like oh I forgive them it was mistake you know anyone that did that you like that you just programmed in that like these people are going to kill you they're going to put you in oven so he's like okay great got it and I was like if you really want to get inside of come to my Passover Seder like that'll be kind of Jewish experience we tell the story of Passover and when the Jews were slaves and then I remember when we were shooting he's like I was thinking maybe tiny shoots Hitler and I was like because he hadn't last chapter yet it sort of re roughly had it is the most valuable time and the first day there was like all ten bastards and Brad and Quentin and he's like so tell me about your character and Nazi I wouldn't hesitate to kill him I would slit his throat bashes head with a baseball bat so like these people tried to eradicate us off the planet the only reason I'm here is because my grandfather got out of Poland because they had tested fire but they had never tested it with the seats and the flags so all of a sudden they're like Oh won't get close in twenty feet and then while we're shooting at got like right over our heads Dj But we always related to the Nazis all my parents we always Nazi talk whatever Jewish talks about dinner eventually so he came and he's like okay I got it going to end the movie didn't like even think about any of this he's like no I thought you wanted me to be an extra that guy wasn't there the next day down to nine I was it I heard like physically saw his head disintegrate and stomp on it to make sure Zombie Hitler didn't come back and he's like that's what we're doing and then working with quietened was amazing I really relearned Oh face out of it and they had two chances to do it and the first time it was like this special effect and they did like perfectly and the can and I passed out I was like from adrenals unconscious and then for like two days I couldn't use my hands because they were just so they're burning to does he shoot the script pretty much as he has we're gonNA blow up the theater but he's like I was thinking that maybe like Donnie bus in and shoots Hitler and I was like I wouldn't shoot you wouldn't I was like no I would stand over his head with machine gun in like unloaded and is kind of rehearsed it we rehearse it and then we get it and then like the morning of you Kinda come in before you get your costumes and you run the scenes like do it again do it again single piece of back story and you had to talk and there was one guy who was like oh I thought it was just an extra I didn't have any lines and questions like what do you duty at so you're running at like a play and then you just act like over and over and over and then he takes a lens find with Bob Richardson and he looks and he's just like can you can see in the shot this swastika drops that wasn't supposed to happen that was six steel cables it got up to two thousand degrees drop so we were like covered in fire jail and uh-huh I heard this story about that once seen in the theater so with the smoke you can kind of see Shoshana face or whatever that they're trying to make like a double but you gotta nail exactly like there's a rhythm to his dialogue and a pattern he doesn't want people going off anyway so what we'll do is like for the bat seen you know hill acting through him because I was used to like I sort of have shot lists and I'll go on location or Mitee p Quinn does is his time with his actors this guy is like if he's putting on a show for the guys then he's GonNa Brag and I wanNA ranted love to do kind of like a Boston themed rant and luckily our script supervisor talk in character for about like an hour about my backstory who my dad was would you think when he joined the bastards what did you think when Aldo said this did you think of that would you think when Stiglitz during the bash like every well but that's how quick operates just like Kinda gets an eye he wants to see it real in the space first and then like with the bat I said you know a guy at my feet with a fire extinguisher but was up on this metal structure and they're like another thirty seconds the whole thing would have crashed out there was no like you guys would went done so I remember it nor is there a lot of evolution during the filming process Quentin is Pretty Quinn's very particular about his dialogue okay I know him well enough that I could go off script if I had an idea nick and he just starts to find the shots it's like he's sort of got an idea but he's like what if we put this haircut cake brag we move just a little bit this way but the cameras motive I came out of that it was so much harder than I thought the gun I couldn't put Gel on my hands because for the clip changes in my hands just like shaking and burning and one little cracked yeah my neck that missed and it was a blistering came out and quenches looks gives you the thumbs up and my hand ice buckets zero degrees I ice cloth on aided by the actors who are motivated by the script and Clinton's like the script is the DNA the actors kind of almost create the blocking yes instincts of how the scene she got it's not like okay you go here you it's like nobody's there not not single person on the crew it's like fuck off gough cigarette just you and the actors and so I started doing that Gimme I'm like you gotta give me a two minute warning before we roll camera and they would run I would just like fucking hang from the pull up bar just hang toes like fucking screaming and sweating and then kind of classic Boston Ranting that Clinton would let me do but I have a special relationship with him you know he's like he's like a brother was a Catholic shooting those scenes to mazes career there for that I was not I was there but I was in the theater for because that was a separate sage built to burn ran you can only do it like twice a day and I was there we almost died when we shot my like with the bat with like he kept me like a tiger in a cage for days he would like okay we're getting you're seeing today and I was in the back and I had them set up a heavy bag for me and ooh ooh meet their Eli is they're Moody adverb a Geraldine I'm about to shoot sorry I forget forget because you're my friend I couldn't because I was shooting nation's pride the Nazi propaganda movie Quentin had me directing the movie within the movie so while so between going to the gym I would go to the you know just warm up and then like finally by the end I just like went crazy and I blew out my voice I mean I I have no training for that for that how to scream but like we'll run the scene and and so we went out to the location where I come out of the cave with the bat and it's like where would you bring this guy if you got him where okay he's going to be more yeah seriously yeah whereas Michael Bender fucking switches it on and off Christoph Waltz like they're so good that you're just like holy fuck I don't know how the like weights and a pull up bar I was just like hitting just try not to burn myself out trying to like stay like dirty and loose and fucking jacked up for it and also I knew that that was other stage with a flame bar so I'm not wimmer's shooting my close up of that slow motion as like this has to be like the most intense thing this is all of his guys wanted to do this revenge for every person it's pretty easy that's how it starts and then Quentin will adjust from there is sometimes it's evident like okay they've got walk in and blow the Shotgun but other scenes you've just figuring it out they like fucking DOJ Williams yeah I wanna see Teddy fucking ballgame but he said you gotta say Teddy Williams Ballgame soups goes all right but so so that was my compromise is guys like fast bender at the I mean you could go 'til fucking five thirty in the morning partying and Berlin and pickups five forty five six and he's just like machine so thankful we came all the angers my mom's dressed in like Nazi costume like being in the movie and the crowd and it was like we'd watch the movie where I'm in the thing with is the scene I was in a tank top and the rest of the scene I was going to have wardrobe on so it's like if I was going to be ripped it had to be for that scene so I would just like I was like I would tell the ad says Nazi Propaganda Watch like Lanny Rough Install Eddie surname leaner even Shaw Yeah Quenton had some movies he had one and at four I would shoot all day and then I would have to have a production meeting planning the Black and white movie because at the end of the theater and basically blowing up my own movie the whole thing so the this movie Hitler built a time for the Jews Jewish director Jewish everyone's in it and there's all this food and it's like they're sitting at a table that's what I did a knock knock greener I mean the actors figuring it out figuring it out then you bring the DP then you bring in the stands you bring the rest of the crew and then you have your shots and you know it's going to go Ford gives us not in your stomach's kind of like before decapitation you get like this nervous energy and you want it to go right but when I had to shoot Hitler in the face you know we shot in the fire stage but then we went on in piles of bodies and swastika crazy shooting so fun I watched like that full length the long it's five minutes yeah yeah it was a lot because in the movie there's just like a few scenes yeah and I'd one guy like as an American soldier calling Hitler going Hello Hitler House has been killed and you know and then but you're friends with everyone so like Geraldine was the camera assistant from South America does the club and she's like Leslie you'll Mr Bad Lou news like shooting in the Nazi propaganda movie and then watching it in the theater with all the people in extra my mom was there like being in Nazi extra we'll never go to Germany and after two hours I used sauce was a big one he had there's crazy stuff there was like when he called Hitler Say's Hitler makes a town for the Jews where they had all this food it's so fucked up you know everyone at tricks gummy the gloomy baron barons take gummy bears bring your voice back which is crazy I didn't know and then so if felt amazing to do it and that but I remember the it's that moment it's fucking crazy those propaganda movies that's so what is your folks do my dad's psychoanalyst I'll whoa yeah so would you it just give me some gunfire shots so that when Solar Shoshana no one notices vibrate brother flew my brother outweighed to cameras that got him like two hundred shots and three days of throwing people off roofs word school so we didn't we didn't know but the thing that's funny is like everybody else I mean my dad was like every dinner it was just like therapy my dad taught me hundred percent of the people in the movie movie were killed as soon as it was done so you're just watching all these people that you know were killed so you're just thinking about all that like that but you'd side on my foot and the Tuxedo and then like he cut in the germs like it's very good at the arts goodly everyone's patting me on the shoulder it was like weird to get complimented by the Nazi there's all this food and it's basically like we're killing any we just built a town for them just so the separate from us and it's all and apparently if anyone touch the food they were shot on the spot and like all this food out this propaganda there were there were eight hundred movies made right and they were they were innovators when it came to cinema like mostly all these guys are doing it so gerber this is pretty crazy it's like the classic one would like the picture of the Ju- The big nose guide the Raton him thinking about how to steal people's money you know terrible things it's really I know he let me fuck and teddy went fucking Williams went all the way to fucking land South Street yet on that one kid's crowds go fuck and Fenton fucking tatty foggy Williams so that all right just one moment and he steps outside Chris comes back three hours later like tears in his eyes he's like your father is the most incredible man I have the whole character only everyone's coming to me telling me literally what their dreams worked asking me to explain them and he's like Kristof had a dream right before we start shooting the movie Kristof waltzes place visit him as a therapist well he independent of the dads he had his office at our house so it was like growing pains like here we're like do crazy people to Your House your dad teaching how to think about those things well we thank you I mean I try to make sure that all of my movies are psychologically sound I mean I I really I would the from Springfield mass fucking Lansdowne street he went on that one I'm like speaking some alien tongue and Martin got it's like all period correct greatest fantasy to be too like choke someone to death that looks like her right excellent looks like her so he could act out that and my dad would tell us stories that was my dad so then everyone's like when my dad comes he sets a characteristic on cabin fever there's his senior Jordan ladd had to cry emotional and she's just like just get your Dad Johny character in knock knock and talking about the repression and like the way that he kind of conceives himself as a good guy in his own mind but it's only because those ideas haven't really been challenged and it all seems like stuff that could be Ronda and he's like he's like I mean an elevator I'm like well it's so complicated like let me call the master we're at like the cast dinner before we start shooting and was like sets characterists my dad came in and while they're setting up the lights Jordan lies down and my dad's like so tell me about your mother and Jordan roll the camera dream interpretation so like on inglorious bastards I was like the resident dream interpreter I would sit in interest questions like I have a dream and tell me I would interpret it and he's like that's amazing so my dad read the script and Mike Hey dad I'm with Kristoff he's GonNa play Launda can I put him on a dream you might help me he's like Hello Sheldon high it's a little loud I can't like the harshest for the craziest people in New York City he was there and a and a woman had been brought in there have been a complaint by neighbors of smell and they went in her apartment and found in a drawer a boy who's eighteen years old who had never been out of the drawer the mother was totally psychotic and his body was all defied his skin is translucent and his brain was like this weird basket case thing we're like hysterical laughing because he runs over and over obsessively at the time psychiatry read a while not like everybody had a therapist especially on Boston Boston dude would come in and be not mass holes but like I remember a dinner of just the most fucked up stuff like at Passover Sater's and family dinners really tell boy in the I made him do it the other night my dad's is my mom's eightieth birthday and how do you know he's like I can't say really are you seeing the general manager of the Bruins Dad I didn't say that you said that so my dad was super secretive about who has patients weren't a lot enjoy and so we and my dad is like you know twenty two or something and they're going home and they go what do we do and my dad goes honestly dozen read the novelization of jaws alien just look like Star Wars and jaws combined it just looked like star wars but really scary I was obsessed with being scared and scary stories and Co stories I'd being like talking we're talking my time for the Bruins at dinner my dad's refined next year we'll look what do you mean he's like well the Russians are coming Mike White is another getting these three Russian players all the grandkids were there my parents are eighty eighty one in great health wonderful they live out here in la the billick Hollywood have blake moved them out here from Boston and we're like tell boy in the drawer and my dad is anymore but my dad read my scripts and be like okay or these killers and hostile accurate like these guys are awesome too if this guy's this repressed by his wife would I'm going to be director from watching alien and I was so traumatized by that movie as soon as such a Hollywood answer from your dad to like producer gets the money director and then it's like Pinocchio when I was three and that was my favorite movie but I was really scared of when the kids get turned into donkeys and when he gets I think it was actually I was like I can't believe you're using your powers for evil and I think psychoanalysis probably lends itself well to filmmaking for you right I mean because I think about the the the problem is this is like two good footage is really really fucking great so that was like the most forbidden horror movie Yankee too ends of money and then I ran out of movie theater puking I had this horrible thing where I puke during movies and then I became psychosomatic like we went this movie called Outland Wail and then someone pointed out that hostels remake of Pinocchio was like what the kids go to pleasure island that turned into jackasses and then like the factories like the when I go down for Christmas 'cause it's summer there I would take surfing lessons and finally standing up because I always wanted to serve growing in Boston there's not a lot do that he's like we have to find the money for the movie it's pretty expensive and I said what it's director do he goes with director get suspend the money todd we were going to be director like eight or nine billion because at the time if you missed it wasn't a home video or cable like if you've missed in the theater it was gone what was it about alien they're really spoke to you because I miss jaws and but I had heard about but that wanted that kind of like when how old were you when you realized that that was kind of like something that you wanted to pursue I was like eight when I saw alien I was desperate to see wasn't violence anymore it wasn't real it was I'll how did they pull off that trick are you an adrenaline junkie like do is that because for me I love rollercoasters getting scared and all that kind heads exploding my parents are looking at me like are you gonNa Puke them on what and ran down the theater projectile vomiting on people some parents like you can't see harms anymore there's and finally came out and I was like I didn't Puke I did it I was so proud of myself that I made it through and that feeling of like I made it I survived it then home video and I was like I wanna see pieces like whatever's the most violent shit I could see and I became obsessed with Dick Smith and Tom Savini and Fangoria magazine and special effects and to me it was like a magic trick suddenly it paid for movie ticket open your door for you yeah these guys will haunt your dreams and murder your family exactly and then they're like well I don't WanNa sleep alone that was a trick right my girlfriend she gets to as you puke and I was like no I can make it I can make it and then raiders came out everyone's like faces melt faces melt and so I was like you can't see it but everyone knew that raiders was like the New Star Wars I and now like a big shark advocate and love love sharks Tofu with whites and tiger sharks and like just anything that I have that like insane fear of like he gave like a serious deconstruction of the structure of Pinocchio and the structure of hostile she's Christ he's right like we're just remaking the traumatized four or five so yeah yeah yeah great great how did you get from graduated graduated from NYU to getting cabin fever made like what was your what jobs opportunity for it and then I was too old to learn and I was like fuck it I'm going to do it I'm going to get like Rock GonNa get knocked knocked on my ass I was also terrified of sharks so I started diving with the on a lean in and get over it and understand it to try and Dakota it but yeah I liked I love the feeling of being scared and moving and also realized like okay if you're GonNa oh I can't remember I was talking about we we when when like Gorgon trickling Gorbachev Yeah so I was I remember seeing alien and going to see me take your girlfriend if you're gonNA take a girl to movie and like George Clooney Brad Pitt you know Ryan gosling screen they're looking you look like you're not looking to go but free Kruger's up there nice to fucking meet you she's like hi Barbara like like they do it to see if your test opposite yet but I after Central Park West my friend rain Michael Myers Jason you're looking pretty good better by comparison and then they're like not no competition then they're like there's some bad dudes out there like Freddy Krueger I'd put him back in the drawer that's all he knows like there's nothing in the Senate mother was crazy she's like no but I need to protect my boy the ceiling scared she won't let us have nightmares I had to go see a therapist about my scary dreams Yeah Yeah I I love scary movies though I just love I love them too. It's the best feeling what's boy in the drawer Roseanne like boy and the boy in the drawer and my dad when he was in med school at NYU Doctorate Resonant Bellevue which is like the most now twelve thirteen or something and that stuck with me for like months it's awesome yeah we'll watch with my brother in New York City faulk did I need to watch Seinfeld fever tonight Howard and you want any porn I've Tracy Lawrence Movies Nah whenever we go to sleep that's shooting schedule thinking about Howard working that hard it's I'm literally getting anxiety right now because there's a lot even the little things that we've done I've gotten to the breaking point like I felt mentally a couple times if you've been stretched that then where you're at like like have you had mental breakdowns while because you because I've never been in your position where you have like a thrown it thirty million dollar budget and then you have one hundred that sort of what draws me to yeah horror movies so if I can do it in horror movies I never could do it with sports like I started like in Chile the office coordinator she's like I just got the job like I think I'm GonNa work on Private Parts and I was like Howard Stern movies we were all pretty obsessed with Howard stern and then she in between there and that's the key question I sort of did everything when I was eighteen I started working on sets like on weekends and Saturday if there was a or whatever anything getting of like as soon as I remember I was on central Park West. TV show and this woman who's like the problem is like what are you fucking and go yeah she's like fuck you you fucking do it so it's like Gary in me and I'm like holding the camera and of course all that guy from the movie but I got to be Gary's cameraman then then they built a studio for a better Sirte named Fred Zola who is doing angels in America Broadway did this move which show so she was one of my favorite did crucial crew Jack Charlie van Dorn can stomach cabin fever actually stuck with me the imagery of when the guy gets his face like when you see his job the bone upon crew relying on you and you have to like show up every day and be like the general did that ever have there been cracks in the armor before or how do you deal with I can do it like she'd raise them in clean and never been out of the door Jeez boy in the door where that's what we grew up with those kinds of stuff and then you're all the nation with Gordon when she was twelve and had been bullied so bad she lost her accent which blue crush every day eight movie message to you know between the movies and the getting the movie set up there's obviously moments of anxiety and you want the shoot to go l. but I'm so happy to do it and being so I've worked for this I said you know do you want to like she's like I think it's supposed to snow this like March freak snowstorm coming so we wanted to with Gary and these girls in the the end of the credits came up and it said produced by David Geisler multiple and I was like what is a producer productive my dad's like producer has defined all the money I was like I think no I think that's where I thrive I don't say that as like a Brag I'd just like that's actually what I do really well is that is that handling that kind of pressure and hindering that kind of people I'm for Howard to sleep at Silver Cup studios 'cause he would use radio show in the morning then he would shoot the movie and then he would wrap at like eight at night and have to go to bed but he didn't want to drive an hour and a half so he's like challenges well here's the best rate fines I went to wrap party the best part was the REP party of quiz show on never forget there was some girl from entertainment tonight and some other ripping like nineteen seventy-one Howard's first job interview and here's a key take your top off the goes getting them to strip and they're like driving on highway median in the middle of nowhere it sure looks fine going there and sitting through and then he made it through Johner the kid super like psyche made it through the yeah you can take Dr they're honking but the Baba Buri like don't even care that there's naked girls so then they sheet the reverse and there were like hey we got the camera guys like I don't want to be in this movie can I share cab with you 'cause like I even have money and the girls like Yeah Oh my God sure come on and then she's like and so like ray finds was talking to her and he's like he's doing thesis answering phones you get on the walkie I was great on the walkie I took me a while it took me walkie etiquette you know New York City there was a whole thing if I just sleep here and they said well why don't we just like kids who do we trust that can be here with Howard in case anything goes wrong I'm like well why so they called me just sit outside his door and I was working on the script for cabin girl like I was I was like the producers assistance I was there and I'd like no money for taxis and stuff is still living like my three roommates and twenty fifth street and some girls going uptown out in the street with a t gone just go with them I'm like yes sure so I go with Gary and these girls and they're all like St doc can you get tickets for me like ray fines wants to go see porkies refunds so I was like I was fine is Baltimore game yeah so I'm watching Rafe well I used to do like fines I'd like to see the porky strategy at that time I can't do it now called Paul Scofield do stupid impressions I like where is weekend at Bernie's to need to see it now Paul Scofield call the wants a copy to foreseen for tomorrow let's shit like that so I remember talking to scrunches go kicking night 'cause ally are you ready make it happen in Hollywood well I met David Lynch there and Dale which was awesome and he's like here's the deal Nikola Tesla he was going to do project on Nikola Tesla so I was still at Nyu I was a junior at Nyu and running his office full-time and working I mean I just I was like I would go to school hark and like all these different movies people generally don't I mean obviously scarface but a lot of movie perusing yeah stuff that people generally don't bring up Hausky from film school is like dude we did these animated shorts I got money from to do this thing called chatter heads it was this thing for wrestling thing the rotten fruit for this website and I basically love cruising so so there's a lot of what's okay so I'm working and I basically wrote cabin fever with my roommate Randy and we're twenty two and I made a student film called restaurant dogs which is a friend's it's it's incredible to have grown up obsessed with these movies and then getting to meet them in know them and then also sort of my movie nerd dumb completely paying off run his office I had different friend's interning because I didn't want to pay anybody and I learned so much working for I met David Lynch and I remember watching Redford direct Scorsese on question pitches were involved in the count six years every single person you could ever meet and you'd have like a deck and a script and a budget and shooting plan and we're going to have and at the ever forget it it was like we wrote three weeks four weeks and we tried to get made spent six years just trying to get money and just setting up LLC and failing and finally then there's like okay they're not available there too big they've aged out and then I finally moved to La I was like everyone's like rose all the money was here in L. A. and I friend of mine evidence he was in the movie version but it was great and I subsequently got to me he got to meet all my heroes like everyone it's really only got the money we started shooting it with like fifty thousand dollars goal is just starting yeah this crazy did you ever have a do you have any moments where you're just like hunting I can like everyone just made for you like you're wasting your time watching movies why spending all the time watching movies and then like you meet them you meet Pacino and you can talk about scarecrow and panic in needle at some teachers didn't want to graduate me after saying but I showed it to an agent who is like this is insane but it's funny and if you write a feature scrappy can help you get it made so we wrote cabin fever the show the best so so you're sitting there in New York so I got to go to opening night of angels in America and I had this crazy nearest pacino in that when the Gino was not in that on I like sitting there on Saturday was so it's so good at that in that in that movie because he great he owns like lip taller tall jared advertiser time we're like well we know James or let's ask Jane would have Steve Zahn plays this character let's get Mary McCormack Zak orth like all the New York actors that we knew at the time could be in it but hey how late was the parties like united after the party all the girls wear them like that was literally got out of the cab fifteen okay I can get this made like did you ever do you always Kinda know eventually we'll get this made think just need to get to the right person yeah I think you need to have such conviction that you're in ain't about like I remember being twenty five and there was we call them our apartment in your city mouse fits because there's a mouse infestation and then we bomb it with boys jobs they're like starting to be doctors now lawyers have health insurance and I'm like picking up dead mice my brother's like yeah but like you're you know you're not gonna be doing that forever my roommate was Neal Brennan than Chapelle show like I moved in Neil and then because Chapelle to live with neal's a tougher mate Tarantinos reservoir dogs carry on killing his gang on a killing spree and yet to shoot it on film unlike sixteen millimeter and it was kind of like Monty Python doing that because you don't want to take a fulltime job to job at a bank you don't WanNa go to law school you're trying to be a movie director but I realized I was at a disadvantage being in New York and once I moved to L. A. I was like Oh this is basically it was a neil's brother and then I finally got money to live on my own and you know once you find that I invest I was like I mean cabin fever we had people like almost lost ah stress related health problems from the film and then we took it to the Toronto Film Festival and I remember watching it in the lab getting on the plane flying to Toronto and because thankfully since it was like poison and dead rats so we're like here we are in Nashville it's like picking up every day with pick thirty dead rats in the walls it was a nightmare and I remember like while my friends life from that yeah it was crazy all of a sudden you're like you know because it happened to me in thirty two thirty three like all of a sudden everything changes where terry go look half animated because I want an animated Vietnam flashback with Grimsson Hamburger fucking prostitutes like important fourth of July and playing Russian roulette and it was just nuts like they did nia moved out on but I knew Neil Neil since he was twenty we were friends in New York I said never lived with him but then he took my apart we look in apartments which were neil like moved back to New York I took meals housing filmed for lionsgate that year and then they're like let's do saw let's like then hostile it just became huge huge did you get whiplash from the change in your kind their houses you know my dad puts retirement money into it we got shut down by the Union we never run out literally shoot and then call people between setups for money I was begging for money while shooting and we all got and literally I was the only one who had seen it at the lab by myself checking the print and then we sold it and everyone made their money back and then that was it yeah it was a hit right like eighty million official cabin fever and everyone's stopped and looked at me and that was the moment at change there were like you're a real director like you really did it like you have a commercial on MTV was like I told you this is you can finally are like in the club I people return your calls and you're like Oh actually director I remember going bowling with my friends and there's a TV on log log lock it was MTV and it was yeah I could see that his brother Jamie and I knew I knew his brother Kevin is supposed to be like Kevin Celerion well Danny Dan Danny's easy so Danny moved in Harry Knowles on Nicole News had written I had a phone call with him and he's like I think this is going to be amazing I have a feeling about it because we approach deadlines at three hundred and forty five movies we were like three hundred and forty six people that I met that had an intellect that's like daunting that you're like Oh my God this is like one of the smartest people I've ever met but also truly one of the funniest it's quite an David like some Indian everyone thought I was doing Blair witch went out in the woods I mean any movie it's going to be coming out but when there were the commercials on MTV people were like Oh you're fucking like and then opened the the history of horror with Quentin Sofas movie knowledge is like he's just keeps going you're like this is insane you're swimming in the deep end yet out of work to get over and I think that kind of with age and experience you learn to become competitive with yourself and once you're focusing on beat them like critically your commercial ear or that's something you do at the beginning of your career hardcore and you always do that and it's it's it's something that I've wchs and he's like don't go home stay for cabin fever and I remember getting off the plane seeing a friend from film school working at Miramax and he's like do everyone who senior movie set it's amazing judgment every day fires for my entire life his ability not just to watch movies but to retain the information he really impact and stuff movies and they told me I did for hostile and that's the best idea I've heard in ten years for our movie you have to make that movie you have to he's I would even come on in present that movie I'm like really like as like Lynch and those two guys were like incredible mentors for me but you sit there and you're just like Jesus Christ I will never know it's much about movies this guy do you because free and you're just like okay so I you know there's people that are kind of in your class that your like your friends with rich Kelly at your right like the people that we all broke around in your best mannered it's wedding it's like like he's my Passover Seder he's like other when you get married you married in November must have ever I listened to your pockets hazard turned down and I was offered like three hundred grand to do it which is more money than ever seen my entire life and wipe me out of debt it would everything and I said no create a new term to describe it and they were like torture porn and this it was just like but I was like this is easy I can just fuck and shock people but then you realize life has other plans everything what it was like the review said about it it's like it's like he's a mad genius and his entirely channeled it into movies yeah and they're very few people like the is how we were like pushing each other with hostile and saw like who could be like the most shocking and who could be the most critical and even if they're box office was bigger I'd be like yeah but I did the scene that upset Jackson saw Jimmy close in Quentin Saad and became friends with him and then I was offered a Lotta stuff and I was like fuck it I think I should do I don't know what to do members dukes literally means nothing and by the way nobody else's keeping track except you and I'm sure someone's keeping track of me in a way that I don't even understand but you just you can only be financially successful films crazy who've your heroes have you been able to create a close relationship with for sure yeah I mean Quentin was like I was thinking restaurant dogs and film school and it was like well maybe it's just too much for people don't think about opening weekend I think about that we can fifteen years enough kids are watching sleep over the weekend you WanNa make a movie for and I did it and it wanted to being the most noticing myself to that hyper competitive like sometimes to my detriment I think you have that too like are you measuring yourself against other directors and are you trying to like really he went for it he did it okay I'm GonNa push myself like if you can use it as fuel in a really healthy way where you're not like they did it or you're you else and what their career as life happens and it's funny 'cause cabin fever it all worked out and then here's an idea for hostile and it's like it was so sick the catch it just didn't click with the script and I wonder what acquaintance house and I was like I think I just fucked myself because there's a warner brothers movie they've offered me the directing job I could get out and so then after that so it was just like you just start winning it and then you're like what what am I doing I'm losing track of what's important like if you focus on it because I and I kinda got out there I was like the director is love going on talk shows I was like doing the tonight show. Id Jimmy Kimmel this is before Howard Stern's all before inglorious bastards he's like fuck that he's like don't do it he's don't think about opening weekend thing about that we can think about what other ideas you have and I was like well this one idea but I think it's too sick for like mainstream additive with yourself if you think pushing myself because you can't control what's going to happen so all you can do the only thing you control your frame of mind in the work you do and that's why I'm really you broke through with to not be able to like you know get ought changes your peer group shifts and I talked about this with some other you're falling behind a little bit and they use that to push yourself and then you get some kind of victory it's just like when he utilize it in the correct way off social media for like I haven't been on in like two months I just realized that it starts you know take me to that place of like why aren't I doing that that's what they're doing actually that shit you just gotTa go now I'm doing my thing yeah you misunderstood the part of the deal was it hard for you when he broke through to like not be able to like because I'm sure you had like a group of friends at the same time you'll always kind of like and you always have the competitive thing but it's not in a bad way urging anti keep track of each other they see movie you're like a Faulk he did a movie he it's GonNa fuck you in your career you WanNa make a bad movie that your first studio movie and you're not psyched about it and you can't kill it like don't do it don't worry about the money do what you love follow your heart art play the long game because of you don't think you can make that movie great and you know like if you're not excited to make that movie then you got like it's such a satisfying feeling but it's especially as we're early in our careers and so easy to fall into those are you making crazy because there's no social media that's where we exist right now using because I'm filling it with worrying about what other people are doing the really is nothing because I I get those competitive feelings too and there's really nothing better than when you feel like like follow some you believe in and the money will follow and the other thing is that there's no rules there's no fairness there's nothing nothing is equitable like it's not like oh you're a good person and you did right and you really were it's like sewage being dumped into it and I had this pure thought where I was in head space of like writing a scene I'm never gonNA create anything like what am I doing here from not here that's growing up to it's like it's hard when you're young and you're like see it and then like you were so close I mean I've been so close on fucking movies like you wouldn't believe in turn down movies that you're like all time so really you have to just find ways to focus on yourself and that's why we go to the gym I work out and when you're feeling like a party degrade well in the theaters that made like million happened exteriors may thirty thirty everyone's buying DVD's seventy million hundred million yeah it was crazy it was when it was the top in you're not mad at them you never rooting for their colleagues your competitors your their success they make better they make you better not a measure failure and I always talk about with like the song that is their path maybe these other people saw something I didn't or I can't control whether or not they're good person or nothing is just kind of let go of that and be water and you can just move rain water and if you look at other people are doing and other people's lives I have it's me this is me personally now this is my weakness other people have alcohol around things everything is is easier what do you do to keep your head on straight that's why don't gone social media I think he will fucking spiral if I go an instagram and I start looking at post promote but like reading comments so to me it's like I think I like to think of my creativity as like a well that is pure with fresh fucking kidding me why did you turn the town you idiot like after hostile I could anything and I was like now I'm going to be hostile to 'cause I don't WanNa fucking take orders from anybody and then I like shooting overseas while shooting prod and South America it's a non fucking bothers you man which is like there's nothing you're in a new bubble canals the next year and it just pick up exactly where you left off and is it is kind of weird but is it hard to direct Bruce Willis for some reason it seems to me like it'd be tough here's the thing camp because you've got to grow up on the street right but in the east coast we're gonNA suffer camp and the closest replication to summer camp that conversation with your friend WHO's working at Ralph's because they're going to be like you fucking asshole it's not a problem they're like you have a real problem where he talking about then you talk to Quentin he's like that's really that shit like F of like the foam and you're like no no no no I'm right where should be unlike tuning everything out so I can get into my creativity like what's in my brain what's in my brain that I'm not acting director Patty Jenkins other people like if there's your friends and I have like I turned down three hundred fifty thousand dollars or whatever for Dukes of Hazzard you can't have is making movie yeah because you're in it for eight weeks it's a bunch of people you're all kind of living together eating meals you have to do stuff everyday there's a schedule but it's all fun stuff that you all kind of want to do like two weeks or like two years and friendships get really intensified relationships are really intensifying by all that but to me I was a big summer camp kid and if you guys went there's way to do it and I never had a problem with them because I I asked what happened when did people run Afoul of Bruce and it's generally uh and it's not like school and then at the end everyone's groggy and be best friends and stay in touch forever every day and then you'll lose touch except maybe one person and then you reunite on due to create something I'm in an opportunity where I can write movies produce moves direct I can act and movies I can host TV shows and I'm like I can do anything I want so now it's about me choosing what to do if he feels like yelling Adam across the room then it's like am I don't fucking embarrassed me in front of the crew by telling me doing something wrong it's like he's had enough bad experiences for use them for that and talked him up close one on one then then there's not a problem and competency is like the great equalizer if any of these I don't mean Sousse and you got like you there are some people that are just fucking assholes that you think have no talent whatever and they're like having crazy success and you just go you know what good for them back the feedback is hard they're nice though I had message boards director I mean it just it happened yeah fucking Razzie awards back at that that was what I needed to do with time then I'm like fuck it I'm going to go to Chile for four years and just make movies there and reinvent myself and clear my head and that's why like shooting you asked of a fantasy movie and he's like this is going to be fucking ridiculous and then we'll do it notion on the playback sees like I got it all right that's fucking call let me do it again and then he was like okay that's fucking great maybe they don't feel like they're looking good as in their younger years like there's a lot of stuff going on so you just have to be like what do I need you to do and like I got you man every actor has their thing and it's his top as you make it you know like like certain people bruce there's there's just a way to approach him and after hostile to a little bit burn and then acting in inglorious bastards watching pit watching Christoph watching how Quentin directed actors watching him if like if he's an actor that likes it when you if I'm going to direct him you stop everything you walk up to him and it's the two of you having a conversation was you're talking about being on location it just like we were both ready to move so refreshing because movie time happens points career he likes to be very specific direction and he doesn't like we just want you to waste the time so you have to really have figured out no what you need him for and it's not because it'd be bubble like ours not comparable we had that in Hawaii County Hawaii five and it was like you know like as long as you trust that you know what you're doing right and that you don't back down like a lot of these guys will bark to see if you're just gonNa like well-to-do don't meet their level of anger just listen to them when did you learn that it was a pretty early on that you knew how to sort of relate to actors or that sort of I think Pitt and Christopher quinten bullshit it was a real performance and so we get you understand what we're talking about this isn't a director that's afraid to get his hands dirty Quentin you WanNa talk and you WanNa listen and he has very strong opinions on the characters 'cause I'm writing it but he's also really smart he's the one who has to do it and sometimes I like okay what is the nope like when actors were difficult what he how he handled it and sort of sympathizing with him for that and then going back going okay there hersal time it's but it's really kind of understand she's like I didn't even she's like I didn't even notice I was doing that like they have their sort of fall back things that they do that kind of second nature shoots he stands next to camera he doesn't see doesn't have a chariot as number monitor he's like he's like he's philosophy that y directors start to suck is they get lazy in the we'll make you look great like what's your concern we're going to figure it out no problem you wouldn't do that because you think that's fucking stupid you think that's going to done okay here's where I need you to get to how should we do it find the note what is he worried about what is actually okay they don't want to be he's like why would I fucking break a table with a knife stupid I've never done and then I'm like okay yeah but it's a magic knife in its sheath bullets but if you're like you you never meet if someone's because actors I know what it's like having been on that same bat and I know what they're like they're exhausted they're afraid they're under a lot of pressure they wanna look good be like Mata got eighty he's like actors are always better off camera watch what they do so he's like if you're the cameras on you running it's just like being around them and once I went through the process it's also like after that fire scene people are like he's not a fucking pussy like he really did it like you act in on screen absolute Cate Blanchett is fucking cool and funny and great and you can be like wow that was terrible I didn't think they get comfortable so he's always up any standing there he's like if I feel like I get up to like that's when the movie starts bad because then the DP directing the movie you know the actors has to be their onset next the camera looking at the actor so but then I finally got the opportunity with Jack Black and Cate Blanchett which is just like more people I got banned in more countries and they begin on Stern You know the thing that I had was I sort of because I was there the Iron Fist is going to be you know Rizza was like crows the best and that he was I fucking sat down with Russell and I loved him right off the bat and communist group without knowing anything about it but like temperamental actors if they have faith in you that can talk to people told me they were like fucking Russell Crowe's difficult and I was in China with me Ann Arbor there's the older one and the not pretty underway he's like this is like a little sister is like we got like the big sister take that's a good one let's go for a little sister let's just see what happens like actors because an actor can come in for one scene and Christopher Walken pulp fiction and kill it you know all the scenes in Charles Manson scenes in once upon a time in America and what also when they trust you and also you can get it what Quinn from Quinton was called the little sister take he's like okay we got the big sister and it would be whoever the two sisters of the it goes like what's that was like the eyebrow during the eyebrow stopped the browse like okay thank you they want to hear that I was like kate she's like what I'm like why are you blinking everything that they would give when they're on camera and it can kind of rob from their performance or I've been in the situation where actors flood the line on purpose off camera to fuck up the personnel it takes a certain kind of person to be generous to the other person when the camera's not on them yes cause some actors it seems like a very limited experience will not give the person who's on camera sometimes you rushing move on time you guys wanted to one more just see what happens sure one more before the other thing Clinton did was like was really smart was when we're doing like the scene where we had feels more authentic than if there's behind the scenes maybe he wants to do photo and we just started fuck around I just started doing the hand gesture and Clinton was laughing so hard he's like turn the camera around he's like let's your hand it to an Krueger he's like he come back he's GonNa Danica now though that we don't have this fuck this bitch is everything just went wrong in the tavern like he's given what who she is she a spy she fucking itchy clean and you guys are acting opposite me you're gonna be so loose and funny stupid I think that's the hardest part of acting is being good when it's your close close up but then you can do it but then Quentin will be then what happened when we were shooting the Margaritas in the moderates the greatest thing we didn't do Chris tops coverage where it was like his his side so we did the lights we ought to come in on Saturday for off camera look he was his life was big it was at the height of him and Angelina and leaving Jennifer and just having twins and you would never know that any of that is going on when he shows upon Cameron you guys and then I've already shot my shot and then I'll come up with something so funny off camera he'll be wait wait wait in a fucking turn around and he'll rewrite realizing that beating and then like I just like started fucking the corpse and jumping on and punching in the face and they were laughing so hard they were just like it was genuine so you know I didn't tell them I was going to do it but like there were like thank you you know that's and that's what it is like I understand when you have a scene and the other thing Quentin would do that was so cool when we go into that'd be as pretty as the other take but still dater it's still fun and sometimes I watched okay giving an extra giving an actor knowing we got it fucking love him and then like you want on side once upon a time in Hollywood it's like exactly picks up like ten years later just funny cool chill you know gesture these like ally don't WanNa step on your gesture because but what if Omar Copies Donny and then he does it too I'm like perfect no it's the right thing because the blind leading the blind and it was for Christof and we're like well let's get in our costumes and there was like why getting I'm look because it's fucking Chris Stop what I'm GonNa be like acting and like my normal street clothes like let me put on the Tuxedo there's nothing I was like and I kept thinking like when is this like at wins like the real brad going the monster gonna nothing never he's just the the coolest dude was terrible fuck you just telling you what it'd be like wow were you playing like she's never terrible but you could joke like Miss Jack would be I'd be like Jack that was just dial she's not might be the one that fucking got your body's just killed like I French so you so you guys talk so me and Brad what do the scene before the scene best that's awesome fuck duck fuzzier Lenr yes it was I what was Brad like he seems he seems like I've been watching the interviews in Hollywood so it's great when you have an actor and obviously like screaming his heart and through and stuff but like when those when I was doing the when they're doing the reactions to the baseball the area and it was just one of the stupid things that was based on a kid I went to high school with who went to Italy for two weeks and came back and started doing this because the stage just the two of us and then we'd buck in like they were all the fucking going into the scene it was so fun I'm like I'm doing this working with Brad Pitt it's an awesome it was excites you there these guys just in Benson air more headed this movie called the endless that was done for like two hundred grand that I thought was like really really cool I love it will do movies for like next to nothing and you know obviously Jordan Peele came out with get out and our Astra with hereditary thought it was like great these guys are coming out with really cool I really like I've and I think he's such a great actor and he would he was great at giving advice wants everyone was like so what floyd like he just started talking about like what kind of waited just a chill dude he's nice to every single crew member he loves being there he was like great with everybody there was no like movie star Bullshit Pattern Hollywood it seems like the coolest Dude Yeah you WanNa talk about the legend yes ninety spoiler alert there's no better than that dude because I remember he was so tiptoe around asking him questions about yet but then he was just talking about true romance and talk about Floyd and talk about all those characters and debt and he loves loves loves movie so I just like I see him and just start fucking laughing he's one of those dudes and who's a newest circuit going knows it who's like a newish director and they're taking very simple premise. I like they kind of one location of turn it something really cool cool and sci-fi so I'm I love those cool should we get it wrestle Rome like he started doing this fucking hand gesture like what the fuck happened to you're like some Greek heavy metal fan and now you're like this like this I don't think people understand too and she fucking puts her arm around me and get in the car and he just looked at me and Josh just hit the ground and then the next day I was working for this producer and I was listening in the phone call the producers yeah it's funny it's making Oscar movies then it'd be like think he loves like these lives Jackass and hot he loved he watched all my movies he was just like you're sick man Mr you're very cigarette yeah yeah whatever you want an sharpen the shark after dark what was it like working on that I loved it shark after dark was fine because I got to that's where I started learning about the shark slaughter which is unfortunate that's something that I'm kind 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These guys are just coming out of Sony products at just look after your Hawk I mean what a fire are fake ID's slide the transaction went smoothly and we were on our way back to the dorms when we were stopped by a freaking undercover cop the officer Mealy told us to drop our backpacks on the sidewalk and up in a row the officer claimed that she attracts from the liquor store and was now approaching us due to the fact that we just displayed signs of being underage in other words she saw one of us put a bottle into a backpack the ordeal ooh spooky time hollow is right around the corner and he don't want to Spook someone with your scary Bush you know you don't want people to think that you're putting on a cost then you wide-eyed freshman I came in absolutely site to go out on the weekends and rage with the squad on my first Friday on campus my fellow stoker's and I traveled to the infamous liquor store on campus that is known for letting and then with the whole squad getting fake. Id and underage alcohol possession charges absolute vibe killer just top things off the officers made pour out the bottles on the sidewalk as random bystander snag videos and then we're like okay we're doing a semester here because then we can don't have to worry about any of this I did that in a high school where I I went to Spain and because recent she's really into horror movies and like serial killers and then I started like having dinner and like hanging out with them and like I was like I'll be at the Hamilton Day and then their daughter Brody help me sort of mature Party wise before college so when it gets college you know people were just like puking everywhere doomed crazy shit and I'm like I got this great advice he was like China you stretching people to build a race of giants so DiCaprio has the right super so great book to Mazing There's Larsen Book Jar does a question and she was and then we got really into time so we're like I gotta go to Hamilton Spike time with the kids like just the whole family was so nice and they do these shen where it's like do you want absence like with wormwood or not like or go to South America like literally get out take a trip to another city in Europe it's crazy yeah I've never bypassed like the drinking a race to get fucked up mentality that like I kind of adopted as like a sixteen year old so I still I still like when I see booze I was I was starting to party and like my school is zero chance policy so I would have been out so my buddies and we went to Spain so good and I lived above a pub two French girls it's such a different culture rent drinking the way they compared to Americans you know they teach kids how to drink they start kids drinking at the dinner table with wine when they're nine I don't think am I getting a buzz like getting fucked up tonight now probably not but if I do drink them typically partying that was we'd I used to think with weed the point I can offer advice please go to Prague good call go to Prague go to Europe where they'd like drinking ages sixteen and it's like not even it was an exchange student in France my senior year it was like life changing yeah and the drinking and the wind it was nothing I learned a lot was to get as high as you could as fast as I didn't smoke twenty one and I can't smile it yeah I think the longer you wait the better to yeah I tried to acid I got nine years old so the kids get sick learn how not to do it and then blurted out to be by the fourteen like somebody damage sixteen they can drink it's like they've been educated by their parents on how to drink do like a spinal tap to find it in the in the drug test you heard that well I know that it stays in your spine right like the fluid or something flare so I was just crushing Heinekens wasn't worried about all that so it's great advice if you want to sort of and also I was in high school so a China acid when I was doing knock I was like forty that was like I'm going to try acid this'll be great and of course like I go to Lollapalooza and I'm like really high on they always working he's always working out east yeah like for the moment he wakes up he's optimize and I've seen it I've seen it from that Murray it's like incredible he's a human acid and Lorenzo's there and she's like fear and loathing she's like helping me like walk to the empanadas standards like I felt like Benito Turkey Circus and then I had eight heart like we ever meet Lorenza just like what just just ask her to do her impression of me on acid at Lollapalooza watching pixies and soundgarden so of course I decided to fire up the DAB rig but I didn't anticipate to get this high and I started to get really paranoid and think about all the SHITTY decisions I've made up to this point most recently getting fired from telemark here's a my is awesome nice hey chat and jt star took me so long you're right you guys seen that I've been listening from the very beginning but basically just turned twenty around the same time that I got off probation happen again so maybe the advice will still be helpful I wasn't really listening to the question I was facing you're thinking about Lollapalooza in the acid my life try acid what are the chances that then get a drug test three days later and it could jeopardize entire priced amazing I passed because what are you talking about we paid off the doctor Oh really I'd heard that acidy needed yeah yeah basically always smoked weed this yeah I think he's having a bad trip a fired up the DAB rig and now he's tripping he's looking for how to calm down Fort Dog monkey is the best thing when you're high 'cause she just wants her belly to be scratched and she just very grounding so if you can find a pet that's like really grounding to have around with you they knew pod came out and I know you guys could help what should I do guys help this was kind of a time sensitive one but eating position on a big insurance agency basically it was a bad trip I put on nature documentaries to help meet come come down but it didn't work then I got seriously seriously got a notification time it happens and I'm the worst this my brain that's why I have French bulldog get a pet Oh let me tell you monkey my dog it's happens if I get like you high which is rare 'cause or or when I get high period because to me there's no I don't have a no went to stop the once a year I do it and then I'll just like my emotions the Adrenalin counteracts the effects of the and sometimes I think I'm jacking myself too much up and I'm just going to have a harder crash but I do think like having a thing in it's probably still there right did you enjoy acids vast I said the PIXIES soundgarden Caribou. I'm so happy I WANNA create the drug test so we do the drug test and we both pass and I was like oh it's amazing that like I passed the you know with the acid and that was editing the producer Matt Guide you remember like the one and just stroke it then it'll calm you down yeah I I don't really smoke weed either because it I can't handle it so but I just turned to like funny stuff I'll watch south park that usually gets me in the mood teaching Chong Chon if it on something funny within two days later they're like La Union have drug test I was like my what they're like hey we have to ensure your director so you're like the the the investor wants you insured so I went go do stand up if I have to do stand up there's no time for me to worry about whether I'm going to die or not because there's bigger embarrassment at my feet so I do that you guys question I'll turn reverse engineer the question like every question like jt so you smoke too much weed yourself be into high on stage and it helps yeah yeah we I I get paranoid my whole family like none of us really you too high the thing I'd do to keep myself from thinking I'm dying or fixating too much I'm a bad decisions I go out into public actually because it forces me to be a little bit more president and often Ersan own conundrum my ex girlfriend I put up sixteen months ago however we never stopped talking over the course of these sixteen months I asked about nine times that we stop the reason for which was I wanted this WanNa meet that doesn't let me focus on like the the bigger problems that there's no way to address anyways that I can just like all right just focus on the stand upset and don't embarrassed because I like to think I'm self aware enough to know that at the end of the day I also didn't follow through with what I was asking for she would constantly ask to see each other which would fight but eventually cave on she constantly told me she missed me space to figure out what I wanted maybe that mentoring other people share but overall I knew I wasn't going to be able to think objectively as long as she was still consistently my life despite the requests we never stopped I say we able I just get terrible movie ideas that I just like who's the Keebler now what was that I did last time I got high up there anyway after the ninth request that didn't stick I decided just do what I wanted anyway and ended up going on a few dates one of which has stuck don't know where it's going but I'm being open about it while we're without that other person you have to look inward and for a lot of people that's very scary so it's not like you can leapfrog from one to the other but really all you have to do is be can't decide if my continued contact with her was selfless or selfish as I really do maintain it was to keep her from being sad not to keep her in my back pocket so to speak cure being weak in a way that's very understandable but I do think there's a better road that you could probably take yeah I think he's just being and me and Keno accounts doesn't drink or do drugs or any now he's like what am I gonNa get drug tested with candidates and so I was really excited if we go and we get because that's standard for insurance how we were still talking as I am seeing this new girl I've stopped telling her I love her I guess my hope is that I wasn't saying we're not saying that would get the message across when I should have just been up front and honest with yourself and say like you know I love you but I do need to move on and I just think we should not tax for a while and if you tax me might come back with a heart but I think got it the other night I got a bunch of Teke my ex telling me she knew I was seeing someone that I was a liar and a bunch of other choice phrases I just can't figure out if they're accurate not so am I a bad guy insecurity of being alone because you have issues that you don't want to deal with it so much easier to keep a relationship going and focus on the problems in the tax of that other person because well I do think you're being selfish and I do think you were keeping her in your back pocket to be candid with you dog but I don't think that makes you a bad guy almost never reciprocated but the real to mind my own I believe was continuing to tell her I loved her at the most as the main reason for doing this was I hated hurting her despite the lack of relationships human I don't think he's a bad person but I do think that don't kid you the first thing is you stop kidding yourself that this is to protect her feelings this is entirely about draw a line in the sand and sort of cut ties because I think in the end that'll definitely helped her the most to get over as opposed just dragging it out so you don't unlike probably not stand up material burritos are funny I remember that was my no idea of funny ink I'm just not going to respond I don't love you but I do have to do this for my own sake and then maybe find therapy or find friends to talk to because once that voices why it you're going to have to focus on your own stuff because my guess is you're going to repeat the same thing in the next relationship because you haven't addressed it yeah I think it's sort of pleasing mentality I say to go along with that he will make personal attacks at me in social situations to make other people laugh I like to think I have six skin but I can't handle this if I tried to Mike move out why would you choose to spend your entire existence with this person if they behavior way there's so many other people in the world and so many apartments all you have to do is look for one and move and then just stop hanging out with them you're not going to change him like being mad is like a weakness but I think you can own it it can actually jar the other person a little bit yeah I've you know like I work out with this Hungarian trainer and should be like you can't eat cheat meal you're too fat I'm like what she's you'll be fat I never cheat don't cheat Alad response although it could be a little awkward but I think people they kind of trap you with that you mad cause because it becomes it's embarrassing if you admit you're mad and like in Guy Banter it actually it has the opposite effect of I think what he intended so Y- what's broach owes first off thanks for the fire Pod I've been listening for six months and my stoke levels have risen to astronomical levels so I have a question about dealing with an asshole roommate I have a Bulgarian roommate who's a nice guy but he has this thing where it seems like you have to argue with everything there should know because we're from California not like East Coast is like horrible it's why I moved yeah yeah fuck it suck kid fuck it I am not hot but the only person who has said I'm not myself if I'm going to be honest most people say I'm like really good looking or whatever but my mind is not allow me to think that it isn't I mean you're saying you're trying to protect her and I think it's a you know you just don't want to hurt her but I think the best move for her like you guys are saying it's you just got you know and he's obviously keep doing it 'cause it's getting reaction out of you I concur it's good advice it really is because I was like maybe you could talk to them but it's like some people are Amigos with the classic you Mad Bro my God nothing upsets me more than when people do the you mad bro Fucking I am had tactic how do I handle this meat bag thanks yeah I I don't know what the other options are the only thing I can say is if he asked if you're mad I think being honest and just saying yeah imagine being annoying is you're gonNA culturally it's not that it's bad it's just how they are Israelis who same like this way certain cultures when they translate to English they just say it like very impossible for him to say anything good about myself I just assume the worst about me and it makes it hard for me to reach out and talk to people but if they talk to me I I'm fine because my mind can't logically doubt they don't WanNa talk and you'll be fat I've do all this work for you then you cheat and you're like okay no one else would ever say that but that's why I love her so you know move what was his name Colton I'm yeah I remember meeting amendment the beach everyone I met Sri l. and it was my peak anyways I'm just wondering how you can have self-confidence like I have no self eight but I also have no self love and it could be because me no I just assume any friends I wanNA make girls I wanNA talk to don't want anything to do with me I went through like six years the worst depression anxiety but I mostly came out of it good for you the possibly is and I think people can have pride in like not having self confidence in yeah like you're like no I'm not like one of these delusional people who thinks he's awesome what he's not us of my girlfriend to and she concurred okay so he's depression issues or insecurity yeah I think he said he thought he said it's not self hatred but I think more than everybody else and it's like this way of like being low and high at the same does that make sense yeah and I think you might I might be projecting this on you might just be my shit but you might be doing that a little bit and I think the best thing you can do is just be embarrassed a little bit that you do think you're cool and it is a little embarrassing but it's better Oh really yeah oh Porta okay yeah you know yeah we met let's be honest was a good looking as he really ugly did use good look them but I almost think there's like ego in that too you know like in recovery there's a phrase like I'm a piece of shit that the world revolves around or like I don't have anything environmental issues right I might just be environmental science major ballooning the coral is legitimate issue that needs support care so much about let's see all right last one what's up team for stuff I just want to say I'm a big fan of both of you to personally are my second and third favorite people out of like actors and athletes and doctors and scholars that I am really disappointed it is not to have a lot of causes you support but it seems you have forgotten about the coral we are here to bring awareness to coral bleaching which is like a yeah I think self acceptance is a big thing we all go through that where you're like I sometimes look back at how much attention I wanted and I'm like why did I think I needed that when you stop criticizing yourself and beating yourself up over it it doesn't become like a need anymore but it does sound like this dude got depression issues so maybe if he had korokin creative juices yeah this is a long guys what up stoker's proud stuggart appreciate enough what y'all do I find myself in what do you have to say what are you going to do with that attention so then you look back you're kind of embarrassing no I'm capable let's that's me that's part of who I am so part of it once you kind of accept it Ben Francis people there like this sense of humor give you shit you know and you're just thinking but it's annoying it no one's laughing so I think yeah just cut ties we almost never give you is pretty much the last thing I gotta fix I would really appreciate any wisdom or advice you have or any on having any self worth any also watch ellen and it still does I was to see just not and also carrion Russians they have like a very blunt way of talking they don't have like the veneer of politeness that Americans have and a library they can't handle that so it's did you you'd be amazed at how quickly your outlook can change on the whole but there's sued you'll meet you'll see this in Santa up it's crazy not just own likes me everyone's an asshole I'm not going to that part it's so much easier than that rather than going out and getting rejected being told by someone you suck or you need to get better you know it's like it's a way of putting up defense people that are afraid of failure terrified success and that there's some people that it's so much easier to put the world against you because you're not judged fairly on the open market uh-huh wasn't make me any happier with the movies any better I just liked to be in the guy it's like oh I love being in the center of attention I love being the spotlight but then I started thinking why what is it Shen and maybe it was on medication I mean it sounds like more than more than some self confidence yet I think you're right yeah 'cause it's that long to if it lasts for like years Septa because you feel bad we don't WanNa be matter parents but then you get mad at the yeah and there's a lot of you love them so much if if you are mad at them yeah I mean look my parents were like don't go to fuck in Grad School for from go to Undergrad fulfill moved to New York City moved to California like will help you with your Ryan if you need to charge gross we're just having a therapist because he said something like self hatred stuff he's like in sort of like that too I was like I was like I'm happy listen I needed to sort of like look inward and start fixing that yeah I've therapist I told me like you're mad at your parents say I have the best parents in the world he's like no essentially being bummed out and being kind of mad at everybody no one understands me lettuce you know just externalizing the problem on everyone else and sometimes when you get the help you need and also the crazy ones like other crazy kids neighborhood

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Mogul Season 2 Preview

The Combat Jack Show

21:56 min | 1 year ago

Mogul Season 2 Preview

"Out dearly departed brother. REGIO SAY WE'RE GONNA have preview of the new season in just a moment but first brandon what can people expect from the new season what's up I'm in the studio with Brandon Jenkins hosted the new season immobile as you may know mogul is a hip hop documentary and the first season was hosted by none other than apple podcast Google podcasts everywhere just typing mogul press play got it it's completely different but it's still got like the ethos and integrity of of mogul what was the most surprising thing you learn working season two joining these rare elements and putting them together so I learned some new things about Miami but I was reminded about a lot of things that I love about hip hop and gained a deeper appreciation for them as well real to them and this is really how they live their lives you learn that Miami I kind of knew it but Miami really was one of the first endeavors in the south that it's different that we went to Miami Not New York it's different that we told the story over several different figures both known and unknown as opposed to one central figure and Chris Lady it's of Miami wrapping and to be honest a lot of rap today so we you think in two live crew uncle Luke Trick Daddy Trina Dj Raw DJ. Yeah like ways to to make this thing even better but it's just it's vastly different so not working on season one it's different the fact that I'm the hosting dot Com men men there there's so many other cult figures in Miami that I didn't know about you know Rick Ross I know two live crew I know Trina trick daddy now you got it you got it let's go I wanNA take you back to the night get the story follow up on the story right descript combat city and they're doing takes I can even hearing season two while I love it I'm already thinking three four because like I did we'll all right let's get into this is an excerpt from the first episode of the new season of mogul how that's the blouse is going to do it but you got it and it's one thing to read it as a headline seated an award shows nursing to watch the here the people make you like wow you guys really made this thing nothing and the but there's so many others like not smaller lesser known figures that have helped to build this thing I learnt they live what they rap about that it's you're right and so when you hear it it's like Oh this is great and then naturally that's what attracts you to you WANNA be a part of it and then you when you're unseen to you gotTa make the thing and you're like Oh okay aw everyone is just bouncing off the walls I thought the place was just GonNa fall apart that's the feeling I got I wasn't nervous but I was just like man this I didn't learn it but I was reminded that hip hop and rap is is truly an art form like people are making this thing out of thin air with nothing scraps and that listen to it and I'm just like just seeing the amount of work to stories the stories that are told thinking what those interviews were like thinking about how many times they had to chase people down the August how was it different working on the second season as opposed first season wedding a chance to work on the first one so the first one I got to hear his listen from their hit album is nasty WANNA be there's new season yes seasonal mobile I mean the new season is about Miami hip hop and not like maybe what you think when you think that you might be thinking South B club can't take this this is crazy it was like a bomb that was lit the place was on fire you know let not literally but figure God the thing that got Luc arrested that Night Chin like expensive cars now we kind of started out like the roots so we started with the two live crew Miami Bass music which is really like the foundation US In this in this but just a few hours after that concert a totally different picture around there are more cops and blinking police lights across begins to gather and one of them is filming so what you're hearing is actually of June tenth in one thousand nine hundred there was a full house at the club deter nightclub in Hollywood Florida everyone was there to see the hot new rap group two live crew before was the same thing that got the crowd screaming his name his lyrics he landed in handcuffs because of lines like this so this is the work they put in this is the level of work that they do I gotta I gotTa find my role and I gotTa keep up so I think hearing season one now I can go back and it's genius and just that and be able to find your ideas and to make them into reality in two appointed didn't exist before like we live with rapids oxygen now but there was a point where someone was like Mike twos mouth and grinning the packed crowd in front of him or frozen mid hop mid bump made grind looks unstoppable looks like forcing people across America to talk about race sex power who gets to say what who should be allowed to listen to it I see just a few days earlier a Florida judge had ruled that to laugh cruise music was obscene in so performing their songs was now again the footage of what happened that night the cops show everyone stand back you guys want to back up a minute police and then the cuffs go on the law that's why I was being arrested and it's how lucrative to live crew became hypothesis unlikely champions for freedom of speech in on this season a mogul we're going to Miami in the other hustlers dreamers in deejays who shaped hip hop in the three zero five my name is Brandon Jenkins you got Don Johnson Phillip Michael Thomas in Miami Vice Bronze bodies on the beach fun in the Sun Yacht parties discotheques scarf Syrah is small dark sweaty there was about four hundred people in the crowd that night crammed in shoulder to shoulder and from the moment two live crew frontman luke spin over the side of a police car lake spread his palm stretched across the hood he's still not say more t-shirt too black too strong taken to the crew that night in it you see the group's leader Luke Campbell he's in an orange t shirt that says too black too strong to live he's tilting became the face of that fight he stood on his own zone Tinto's stood up when war fight against the government reaching into the sky with drop convertibles revving up and down ocean dry but we're not going there fucking democracy you know what I'm saying the negative Supreme Court he went in there and representing he dressed the part how to live behind him there's a cop a much shorter man in his starched white shirt here's his hands around Luke's waste in the back Luke Campbell walked on the stage and launch into their hit song head booty cock every single one of them went totally ship didn't put on trial for obscenity looking the crew we're gonNA have to fight to keep their music on the airwaves and keep themselves out of jail in that battle explode deepen heart of inner city Miami in a neighborhood called Liberty City the black part of town South beach is not Miami this is Marie allow so like these like some big figures that you know and some more lesser known underground cult figures that you know so we really did are digging that's that's dope education and is fine we'll tell you the story of how Luke Campbell and two live crew to hip hop immediate faster in harder and Nastier so nasty that they ended up getting arrested in everything we're GonNa talk about story base booty shaking the first album to be declared legally obscene it all starts here and spotify Gimblett media you're listening to mogul a show about hip hop so most iconic moments told by the people who live in this season because our story the story of the birth of Miami hip hop and the two live crew it takes place about nine miles away from south beach across the bay say the words one thousand nine hundred Miami and you get a flood of pop culture references ace and of course South beach that iconic shoreline of newly built skyscrapers it's six square miles twenty thousand people almost all of them black us as who'd people people who I wouldn't even say nigger Samuel Young but you might known by stage name Yoda's trick daddy dollars representing Miami three zero five day Kenny trick grew up in Liberty City after a ride in nineteen eighty the economy in liberty city tanked cramming employment rose and a lot of local businesses moved out of the neighborhood in the some of the doors swing open is like thunder just imagine like one whole wall feel with like out that you know that was bigger they're put Miami on the man we're going to take you inside the world of the two live crew as a black people people out there who're we didn't couldn't and had no intentions all going to south beach we didn't go there uh-huh schools this is Rick Ross the biggest Boston the Game Young Wenzel Aka Rick Ross I remember seeing trainer this years before sleep there's this picture that was have you really was from Miami Beckenham days like you South beach wasn't the thing to go to this is Trina and I am a hip hop international rockstar intrigue say that they didn't need south beach for black kids in Liberty City there was only one place to kick it a teen disco called the pack jam it was like the birth of the coach it kind of defined you know saying like it gave us identity you know like you go to the Miami rap group poison clan he was a teenager when the pack jam opened up and when it did it was one of the few places for kids in the neighborhood to go packed jam moved in it was based an empty warehouse the perfect spot because there was lots of space for a dancefloor and stacks of speakers and kids like jt trick and you had the the the wavy hair whether it's your own or we of course in the agency everybody had a Michael Jackson have you had a Michael Jackson it was tight and laser tight in infringe or tight in tight and black had to be black silk shirt fishermen had telling me pans agenda's weekend you talking about it all weekend school when you can't wait to get back to the next weekend you know Friday and Saturday you know that's jt money gt was the finest inner city the Richardson Hood. That's what you brought out when you went to the pack Jim I'm trying to imagine like you know how many people wallet powerful Sermon Vegas Speakers Everyone called him beggars for short and they were stacked on top of rows and rows of basements they needed all this gear because it's the pack jam it wasn't enough to hear the music you had to feel it real negus right where we go real news in San by Tanya open the music all your chest but that's where we went off you know as you walk to the place to fill the doors vibrant the trust me that was all it was always going to be something tight and cut up let's DJ CD she's to hang out at the gym too with the vibration of the base and the beat of the music and presiding over all she was an artist she was just one of those pan hoods downs and I remember saying to pull up in God damn that's it is you know what I'm saying you brought out ninety nine and awful forty one it got so jam packed just reversed the name and call pags them he stacks of speakers and grinding bodies the undisputed King of the pack Jam Luke Campbell he's the guy who got arrested at the start of the episode for his Dirty Ryan The spoke to par in active Pau he went and fought for something that paved the way for all of us to be able to come into this platform the jewelry doing like you'll be none of us here the goals that those we stood in front of that vague even with the sound that that that that the sound was the troll of my organs on the inside and they just start vibrating and balancing to the music and I just become one Grena who come through to dance their asses off me and some Kasim we debate on this but I know the truth because I was there I was on one abused Ma with zippers years you had to Jason Janke so picture the inside of the patchy it looks the one who made all this come to life the dude who had the idea bought the building line they would speakers put the word out in Liberty City I mainly historic that's the man himself Blue Campbell Lucas sorta like the pact GM's conductor but he wasn't controlling an orchestra he was moving you had to have good speakers at could push that base out you know what I mean the base literally distaste over in there what was it hot in there was it like were wearing You know Miami do we barely walk close try doing you could teach grandma because the pack jam signature dance was called throw the D and it was Raunchy as hell here to explain jt money it got about six hundred teenagers crammed into a space design old no more than three hundred and as you can imagine it will get pretty hot in there it's like one hundred ten degrees hot like super hot because you got all these kids packed up in here you know kids a wildly destiny all over the floor I'm saying so hot to like the walls are wet sweat pex because this song told everyone that it was time they hit the dancefloor moved together is one thing cha slide but this wasn't the kind of dance routine crowd full of sweaty teenagers in most nights the kids at the patch and would be begging luke to spend a certain record record that brought everything to its like a lot of people told me that that will get so hot inside the pack jam that the walls would drip who's also super loud near the noise is driven by breath in the party man. It was epic epic parties I mean five parties as DJ at pack jam were hi the sound Kemp was going the base had tested it kept us going if you're going to club and then in a sound on Saturday we were because I mean like maybe eight tests because I listened to one side and undecideds equally the same I remember being a youngster pulling you see of course all the hustlers you know what I'm saying and as soon as that be dropped everyone wild it was tom throw that D eh four o'clock now keep in mind this pack jam team disco their clothes very among liberty city teenagers in the eighties it always started the same way luke or one of the Pack James Other deejays put on record called Herman Kelly's dance to the drummer speed Michael Jackson Jackets and their tennis skirts and dance until the early hours of the morning even though a lot of them are still really young in the original there be thrown ide-

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Giving a Caregiver Help

Fading Memories: Alzheimer's Caregiver Support

1:24:18 hr | 1 year ago

Giving a Caregiver Help

"They show I'd like to remind you to follow me on social media you can find me on facebook at Fading Memories Podcast Instagram is at all welcome to Fading Memories Supportive Podcast for those of us caring for a loved one with memory loss before we get into the soon everyone on the podcast today is Barbara Ivy she has a website called the perfect thing dot info which has a lot of fantastic information for us caregivers and she's also the author of a book called Patterns in time is in brief check us out and I hope to see the online very soon good afternoon a care giving responsibilities and as I was saying before we started recording I can kind of see how people go down that rabbit hole because me and I learned but there are certain times in life when that's just the nature of things crazy and learn how to be okay with that so fifteen years and when she was first diagnosed my sister had to school age kids like five and seven so little guys I learned a lot of lessons about acceptance forgiveness many important life skills learning is good for our brain so maybe part of the journey learn everything we can and are forced to learn maybe that's beneficial in the long run you something like that and only quickly learned that probably would have paid to be a lot more realistic I hope I hope to jail I think it's also the lessons that we learned during Alzheimer's I think are really good for our hearts as well so blue explosion and dumping and it's the your story is somewhat similar to what mine was so my mom had Alzheimer's end of a guide for families who are caring for somebody with Alzheimer's like all of us are doing so thank you Barbara for joining me this afternoon it's a pleasure to be here you're so our main topic that we decided to discuss today was what to do when your parent doesn't ask for help with out what Alzheimer's hadn't store and learn many many many lessons throughout this whole thing so well they said mentally explode and just dump them on her which I know will not be beneficial to anybody I don't think my sister would appreciate this out of the I sister has school aged kids fulltime job outside the home I've taken on a lot of responsibilities and currently this afternoon I'm about ready to just you can actually see the beauty in people that we are society doesn't normally see the beauty in must be it's difficult he's wanted in life to do something entrepreneurial oh I'm going to do that now I left my full time nice job but I had in order to in she was just going back to work herself and I a few years into my mom's Alzheimer's decided Oh this is the time that throughout the whole experience how to be okay with being a when they are in chaos rate I always like things to be nice need and in the I've recently learned that in regular listeners I'm also professional photographer mom some days but especially as I was telling Barbara offline my mom is refusing to go with the hair nail gal again I was off sightseeing on my own my husband was at a conference in a come across various people in his people eighteen my mom and I go kid watching which you know she loves to do I enjoy it for a little while but I was people watching and sightseeing and you see lots of feel this afternoon I'll probably change my mind tomorrow and the ten sleeping on these things is a good idea ray yeah it's just there was oh people look as beautiful as possible and sometimes I see people and they'd be so much fun to photograph but now I'm starting to see like maybe the appreciate the beauty and uniqueness of these people that I'm seeing even though normally most people would not have seen that now's like oh my kind of glad about that put a nice gift yeah yeah especially as a photographer you know I I don't get models I'd get normal people and so I have to make it's just like about ready to just let her just get wild hair 'cause it's almost more trouble to deal with than it's worth but that's the different types of people ages and everything and just I just like donned on me I'm like out of my normal routine and I was like wow Dan and then as regular listeners know and this is September seventeenth twenty nineteen moms had some physical health issues and we've been doing tests and stuff and there's been times we'll wait maybe I'm not ready it's very interesting Mixed which way that was but she ended up in the same condition as somebody with Alzheimer's inside my great grandmother so it's not a really good family history you went on this journey with your mom for fifteen years we've been on this for about twenty days when it's like I'm kind of ready to be Alzheimer's or it was the result of a brain aneurysm that she had had she had for three months before they fixed it at gotten mixed messages from doctors as rates the issues we dealt with very early on we had a business together and my mother would take orders from clients with no directions due dates no use timers can stretch over years it it means that I'll guess when our life is passing by at the same time we are also getting old story behind the wriggles in the gray hair and the confusion and all that and that's lesson right then we learn because as full information of any sort and in the beginning it was easy to say oh well she got distracted she was taking the order phone rings whatever you know stuff happens and my mom would make comments like why don't WanNa end up like my mother it'd be like what are you GonNa do murderers illegal so mom's needs and business needs clash and that's really frustrating so I tried to help dad and he refused I you know he now her mom also had significant memory loss and it was either in my opinion as I say my mail order MD was either undyed in doing this for twenty years now in some way shape or form let me ask you what your experience has been with asking for health how slightly over two and a half years and he dealt with probably ninety percent of it and we again this is a story I tell a lot because illustrate and I was trying to find ways to help that didn't significantly impact my schedule because you know yes I worked for I I don't even know what prompted it but I started looking for an adult day program for her just because he would get so frustrated with schools including right allege so getting there wouldn't have been super easy but you know wasn't wasn't the other side of the moon backwards in time yeah that was a fun afternoon and so then my sister and I and our husbands in my parents were about twenty miles away about a half hour forty minute drive and it got as my dad's health was declining messages incentive but right now this afternoon I'm totally ready to be done well let's see so if you was diabetic had all kinds of chronic health issues and I I think it was must have been twenty thirteen or fourteen thirteen well I mostly stressed about how how am I going to help dad in not impact our life and have him allow me to help and it never happened aw he ended up he had a donated kidney that was failing and he ended up with his memory went this but it happened more and more frequently so I started quasi supervising if I heard her chatting along with I would go out front he hasn't thought about how many steps involved in the making just a sandwich something simple the next time you make sandwich thing about how many steps are involved in did all that for years but after she got to the point where she was unable to process the steps to make a meal brace if anybody new at the time they were excuses it was clear across town he had to lower easy for me to say he would have had to drive past several older and all those things we experience at the very same time as Alzheimer's a lot yeah it can be a lot of times you should a to enroll my mother in adult day program and in their little town there was one so it wasn't a lot of selection there were a number of schools it's crazy because dad never you never asked he never he didn't accept it when I did try to help and made it really easy to not try to continue are you doing with that and what has been your experience through Alzheimer's doing and asking for help from my dad has been gone about two and a half years the home and there's flexibility but I I can't flex to the point where Bendon half after being flexible for clients to and sometimes if your brain is not functioning correctly why eating is becomes a challenge it's it it's interesting when you think about it in that way her to try to intervene to try to be helpful to be supportive of him it was a whole timers my dad was carrying for mom and he wanted to do it one hundred percent himself so there were a few in thinking day so that was how my sister and I don't know how how she managed to make that happen but she and my had a very different relationship than he did so she said I'm doing this and you're accepting it right that's how she is and that's if that's what works that was great that's not how back now there were a few little things that he let people help with for example there were ladies at Church who had picked up my mom and take her to quit and long before the Alzheimer's came and so he was comfortable letting that continue but when it came time for me and my sis lead to find ways to to help my sister did them make she would she would make freezer meals that you could just on the crops her so quickly I thought he needs a lot more time away from her he would he would refused like I'm not interested you made a bunch of excuses and you mentioned about the topic of Adult Day program it took me three years three years to persuade my father as we hit crisis mode Reich you know red alert Oh my God what are we going to do so I never got to just actually help and of its you intervene on my behalf with my dad because I knew that he would take their advice in so what that is kind of another story right so so I'm you know this has always been top of mind for me is because I worked like you dad to accept help so I developed a few things that have helped myself and others that I usually shared the the story is so much like yours on there a number of schools between their house but it took so many years and I would be talking with the lady from for me so that I had good good results with and I share that with other people I translated maybe two I reached out to some of my dad's best friends the ones that I knew he was the closest to and WHO's ear pick her up to take her to quilting or two ladies circle and he allowed that to go on because that's something that had happened talks he's a horrible cook actually that's kind of a compliment he does a really horrible my am so my situation is so common in it's it was very much like that with me and my peer nc a my mom had what is the person that I always took advice this this could be the person that you can sit down with and if they are at all mom with my dad the things that I felt really needed to improve on what needed to change and I asked them to that I'll share with you that I came up with on my own and actually probably was the most effective thing I ever did was that I talked advice he always took and I invited them and we had a sit down breakfast and I had a heart to heart with them about everything that I was seeing with me up is the fact that I think that there are some things that parents can't take advice from their kids about that's very true and so he in robbed in your parents life currently you may find that the conversation goes something like the conversation I had with my dad's friends which were oh they said we see all the husband started on that career so it was kind of a crossover yes he was my dad's friend and he's my dad's age but he's also was tool rotarian friends I'm not sure he would've taken their advise just because of his personality but he definitely would have been better these things we just didn't know what you're thinking about that or we were you know we see all these things so that was a real eye opener for me Tim sale high and so what are we doing for Barbara today in this kinda scoop in and try to get informed without being really obvious about it you responded you know it it's different than it was instantly but he was definitely more open to hearing these things from his friends than he was to here they're the one gentleman that comes to mind is he mostly retired real estate agent and he my husband worked together folks when I speak and then I came across another great resource that I wanNA share with you today so yeah so the one idea listeners to take into consideration give it a try definitely my first reaction when you were saying that his best friend would not have been useful okay were brother-in-law or just that special someone it could be somebody from long pass that they always would say oh you know what close to us and we still keep in contact with them so that's the first person I would have gone to and my Dad Mina listened to him I might have had the adult day program I called her like every month or two and talk were there you know I tried to get her help at her ideas as to how to me be depending on their personality you know maybe maybe they are the right person maybe somebody else's WanNa had probably search through the and they were immediately I'm bored with it so that was a real blessing you know it's a little late for your family right now but still something for the only way that you're going to get healthy again is if you put her in the care of someone else and so that's that's how that decision was made but again it was someone dad finally that my mom needed to go into memory care my dad had gone for an annual physical or himself and at six foot it's a a priest or pastor that is the one who influences your parent the most maybe it's their brother or sister tap a few other rotarians but like I said his is best friend is brother Sh I don't think that would have done me any good off of gone that route would have been a thousand percent worth trying I also heard -tarian that's really the house when I remember the most is that he had his built cinch to like it was about Oh I don't know eight or ten inches creative though and think about it and it could be attorney it could be a pastor it a doctor it took my dad's doctor to convince ACAS even two hundred pounds pretty light for six seven that's right yeah yes exactly so yeah it's kind of different in every circumstance now we all have that special person that we trust you know so hopefully if people could just I'm Heidi grant and so I you know it's published by Harvard Business Review so I think that definitely else giving him that message because I tried you must have been really worried about that's really really skinny I was very worried that Thanksgiving when he came in take time is getting short for her she's needs you now more than ever and counting on you to be the person for her so we need you healthy and in is kind of an indirect way of getting them to happen so and then recently I read this great book I'm going to recommend an icon seven he had weighed two hundred pounds the previous year and that year weighed in at one hundred fifty God and that's when the doctor and summarize it for a year and I also wrote a blog post on it but it's crawl let's see if I get it here reinforcements and is a social psychologist live now she's been gone for six years and I've been writing about it and speaking in ever since so you know it's like you you know me we're I think everybody who knows Alzheimer's does that we're talking about really serious things you know it gets serious and it really funny at all I know some of the Rotarians that I know that we're was especially reminded club at my club and so it was really very fascinating to me she names five different ways that our human nature resists twenty one years of my life you know anyway I kinda see things through the lens of Alzheimer's so I started reading this book and gave him the message he might doc his doctor told him listen you know your wife is counting on you to see her through you know she's I'm for them might not be obvious I think that was the intention of this book but you know after having lived Alzheimer's as long as I lifted because it was fifteen years while my Muslim it's also helpful to remember the very unfortunate statistic that sixty five percent of caregivers are either hospitalized it gets frustrating for adult child when we we see things that need to happen but we can't figure out how to make them happen so by that I but the good news that Heidi grant gives them this book is that when we finally do ask for help and we overcome at Lea- bathe saw this in terms of like when you're in the workplace in you need to get someone to collaborate with you and you know the those fears ask the people are usually twice as likely to help us been we think they're going to be so a pass away before the person they're caring for that's horrible thing and I have not seen how what the percentage is hospitalized versus the the medical profession I forgot then I had learned that losing my cool is not usually beneficial pushed percentage that pass away I is sixty five percent of the huge number huge but I'm assuming that beyond his waist beyond of goal and I thought we did all that extra belt come from and then they realize that's where he used to be you know help that's pretty normal because asking for help is so scary it's really frightening it goes against our nature in different ways resist asking for help so she you know so this question that you posed about your father like re yet to ever be able to get him to accept a lot of them ended up hospitalized and some of the issues that I've been doing dealing with my mom over the last couple of months there was one day I was so frustrated he was having significant cognitive impairment Sheila so much worse it was it the signs were completely missed by everybody it's basically he needed to be on dialysis which he did not want to do which was I understood that but he didn't tell anybody and I now realize that dad was a rotarian for forty five years has been an IRA rotarians so we have had it's hard to clarify that one me could deal with what I've had to deal with last year you know and I think if you ask for help when you get help and you understand and this is our approach that pastor and ask for his help or never that often people are going to be much more willing to help us than we think they are buttons to the fifteen and I was driving to get my mom and I talked to my husband and I said I understand why my dad did what he did so there's some good news there for those of us who are willing to take the risk you know sit down and have breakfast with Dad's good friends slept for a week because of issues with the parents yes you know it's it's easy to go down that rabbit hole when they're you know when it's till the very end and artist I told my husband Mike Now I understand why my dad essentially self terminated because he's gave up because he deal I don't think he at home for you know forever it's like you're just asking for trouble you know it's a deal or seven job I know people that didn't haven't at least with my mom in my life our story with Alzheimer's has ended there I still realize now to this day I I wrote a blog post kind of summarizing some of the key points of this book and what I was arguing for I'm coming to that point of acceptance of the reality of the situation and I have to say that you know now that this is all over one of the things that makes me really crazy people even you know caregivers like myself for parents in you say climate I'm GonNa keep is that what was going on you know because it's a very intense period of time right so I just have to remind them what you're doing once or twice where we're going to have dinner now come sit here all day but when you have to remind them every ten seconds what you're doing knows better than maybe he likes those rotarians rather have them around that's you know and they weren't will the neighbors would let me clean your house let me do this that is like no no no but maybe there's a way for us to get neighbors involved and we know that it gets to that right yeah we know it's it's getting there and so you know a big part is or at least asking people to consider is that maybe there's a way that we children can step in and build a little help timers podcast and our brand new youtube channel where you can actually see all the exciting conversations and that is also fading memories podcast this my parents had neighbors on one side that have been there for years and I think they would have been more than willing to help out with my parents house because that's the kind of Guy He is a my dad might have accepted I don't WanNa say help he wide have paid times and they did ask keepers but they somehow disappeared I think 'cause my dad forgot to pay them or he got upset with him over something stupid and they they quit you jose to take other things if Jose a don't ask so this is where I would have had to get involved and I didn't know Jose at the some things and they also had a landscaper to carry on the company to care the yard but they had that guy for years and years now he's my guy there you go I co op them for my yard and I can he the landscaper the owner of the company has helped the people that are renting and yet others involved where we can kind of that could be the thing that we do to support dad is to to kind of put together some volunteers maybe people he likes there are still things that I've yet to fully accept about what happened you know there are days where I will hear somebody speak grow read an article in offing which sounds were likely either one I'm not cause the day that we showed up am I damned thought it was about nineteen worked for appearance without them say yes rate we as adult children are you know saying he let me bring food. Da Wasn't clean was destiny I'm like what happened to their housekeepers and my mom's nails were just like a mile long don't she goes and gets her nails done every you know every four two or three weeks so like what it was like all these things like that's the signs that hadn't noticed before Nike created identified all the different things that mom used to be able to do to cure for herself and charted out how over time they shifted timers that it's going to unfold a different speed in different ways for everybody but so that's the purpose of this and then I was tormenting myself so much after she passed asking myself questions like how did I not see that coming how did no no we're not doing this anymore and I was like oh sounds like a decision and I knew what is advanced directive was so it wasn't like I had decided he needed to be on is in the hospital for a month he was home for a week he fell because he refused to let the caregivers help him yes and he ended up at here at the bottom where I created a timeline of my mom's Alzheimer's from the from the year she was diagnosed all the way on your story just so much illustrates this whole point that your life is GonNa go on while you're living Alzheimer's all the other people have reached back out to me told me you know I had that they had yet to ever understand why this was so taxing on the title when she passed and then even what happened with my dad in me in terms of our health and well-being after she passed just as a reference so that other different hospital and my husband we were having breakfast one morning and he said well I wonder how many times dad's GonNa end up in the hospital like this before he dies and I just looked up and I said diary I there were all these memories of different days in things that happened but I had no idea like when ext what might happen next just so that other adult children could have something to look at so that you would know what are the things that are coming we all know with people could look at it and say you know okay mom is following dad right now right he's she shattering him what might happen next in your life I I'm just GonNa take a quick suite here and just show you this is patterns in time this is the piece that I put together after my mom has things happen that I completely missed I couldn't after she passed I had yet to ever like keep a record of will this happen this day I get to keep it are kind of random and messy and all and I combined it all and created a time that's what's on these purple pages spins it was more like if we're gonNA keep going down this path this is not what he wants so we need to be respectful of what he wants still a tough decision into sign the paperwork for hospice I had a dog that was had cancer and she was in her life and we're trying to figure out at what point we were the deal with her if you know what I mean like not a good time I felt like as kind of like deciding okay what we're trying to decide what point we're going to put the logically how they all end old it and stuff so I took all of her medical records all of the notes that had take in which my dad for history sponsoring which again happens it's it's Alzheimer's into this has been a big help I I have a number the sleep now I'm kind of doing the same thing with my dad in the hospice people are like no no no it's not the same way feels the same cure partner rate we understand that your wife has Alzheimer's but really how does that affecting you every day and this really breaks down into e of the activities of daily living like bathing getting dressed and shows how over time the each became separate things that my mom was now ah I was able to help dad in support him because what became really quickly quick to identify was that my dad unable to do and that my dad needed to do for her and then on the last page I summarize all the different ways that after trial and error the ways almost three years since the nightmare with my dad's started I find that I read news articles I'm really big on the news APP on my ipad before Matt Quick Reference which is excellent because I am a reader but in the last three years since we started the it's been reference referenced piece of other family members because I know during Alzheimer's I was awfully busy there's a lot of beautiful novels in books out their memoirs Awesome manage the summit all out in I think it's thirty eight inches of going to take good care of my mom if I could take better care of him that would be a good thing and so this these are all the different things that we did to support him so is written about Alzheimer's but I know I was way too busy to read during that time so that's part of why put what I learned in this type of getting harder because I go see mom on Mondays and one of her physical issues is she's got a growth next to one kidney he is not completely dressed she is very stressed about being wet when she's non and she can't seem to function getting in and out of her clothes and every time I've showed up in the last month to spend time with her take her to the doctor whatever we're doing she's in her room and guests send me their books all the time and I try really hard to read them but they're days when it's like I just cannot do any more Alzheimer's anything next to her kidney I don't know if it's her brain or the growth or both she's having a miscommunication on when she needs to go I said they want me to do a couple of other tests to that I've basically been talked into but it's mostly so we can have information like concrete information so we know what they want me to do a third ultrasound it's like oh they don't understand the how involve this just to get her there right and I've tried to explain it to them and they don't get it and that's really frustrating but what's happening and I messaged the doctor before we started talking is natural modesty impulse isn't it in taking care of ourselves that we all want to make sure that we so when you try to give her help she resists and so I tried a letter struggled through and then she gets frustrated which of course when people have Alzheimer's they may lose their accuracy in terms of the exact details are the exact specifics that they tell people but maybe a seven and it's exhausting it's like I've been here five minutes I'm ready to leave because I can't fix you I can't really even save had like three people say it would really be helpful to know exactly what the problem is before you make a decision not to go forward it's kind of hard to argue with but this growth L. per out in that situation which is interesting because he tells people have her best friend so that's lovely rate assist so they wanNA biopsy which requires anesthesia which I'm not CPR interested in doing on somebody with advanced Alzheimer's but the neurologist last last week when I visited I don't remember about the clothing at this point so at least I blocked some of that out we went and sat in the courtyard help you is she fights hell that's my the biggest frustration is she doesn't know she has a problem doesn't realize that she needs help memory care which is a really beautiful place and it was peaceful and was so nice and she kept telling me must just be dying I thought Oh that's kind of almost scary kind of the she's never said that before and I thought how it's like yeah that's what I want to deal with I've been here thirty five seconds with you and the stress level has just gone to almost not a ten your support during those situations that's that's flattery flattering thing you should you should take a breath and realize oh now her stress levels higher kind of to figure out when to dive in and help and when to stand back and say no both feet in different holes how much awareness behind that statement bray isn't that something yeah you know and of course that's a little stressful too because you think see quite a time and it's every time I go now which is I guess I should dislike take a deep breath and just know when I knock on the door we do speak from the heart and if she's speaking from the heart in telling people you're her best friend and that she's welcoming you and it's beyond her to know how to fix it yeah your book kind of in the same boat she's GonNa open it in some form usually should certain you know the top half of hers dressed bottom fits him various stages of under she used to kind of realize wait that doesn't seem like the right word now it just she strings words together and they sound like they would make sense but they make no sense for our dignity and all and it's trying it's probably highly agitating for her to be so confused and not in we're not going to deal with going forward instead of we're not dealing let's see we have a tumor and we're not treating that but we're not sure if it's a tumor she at one point said she'd said a couple of times well my brain doesn't work so well anymore and it's like yeah you think and at one point she says well my yeah yeah and end up back to your point about that she doesn't know that there's a problem but I almost want to challenge you on and also to feel like now everybody knows right so I can kick to the two of you just going through that that has got to be realized recently is I've always known that I'm a stress eater but I'm I'm usually aware when if I'm starting to get stressed the beautiful thing you're doing for your mom just like being they are yeah well I appreciate hearing that especially today like I said I'm really really that because you I said that she's kind of worried that she's wet and she's not or she's about to be installed in in that kind of oh well anymore something along those lines which is something we might all say like occasionally if I'm really tired I'll be like I'm really tired so my brain's not working very well actually have a meal meal with her again to see how she's functioning meal wise she doesn't seem to have problems eating it's the dressing Self realization and I think if I had to deal with my mom every day I would probably way significantly more than I do because I'd probably be eating all the time astray with her today in I think it sounds like she's kind of frustrated with herself to rank he would rather be different in well you know since I'm since at least right now in my life I see Alzheimer's in the rear view mirror one of the things I can say is that she's at the stage in Alzheimer's where she's the wrong words alone and it's actually gotten significantly worse in the past month where it's not because I'm actually hungry it's because it's just so mentally exhausting and stressful that my brain is like let's have some food twenty of it needs to go away again and I don't need to stress eat into now thirty of it needs to go away so that's kind of been an interesting showering all the personal stuff that's that we don't really want somebody to help us with this she needs help with rate will it will be are right I know she would appreciate that extra time with you so that's that would be a really good idea and you know if it's at all helpful that's desperately remarkable it's the first one I've ever heard make the comment my brain is dying always made the comment will in my brain doesn't work so you know is she really aware of you know she's this far gone memory wise mentally ill she must be for her to say something like that aware of that because I don't want to gain a whole bunch of weight I lost a ton of weight a few years ago and have kept most of it off uh-huh I know they feed you quite well where she lives in the food is actually really good I've eaten with her many times it's probably about time too you know it's just constantly telling me Oh let's let's let's eat I have realized now when I visit my mom there's a reason why I'm starving halfway through the visit you you can almost hear my mom saying that I know what I'm saying I don't know if she does but yeah it's it's really hard one of the things I have statement it's like what in the heck you know so I will say I'm sorry I didn't understand that can can you explain it two significant issue anyway and so the you know the staff was letting me know that this is what happened in I don't know who she was upset with you know and there may be a time where you're going to look back on today and say wow that was a great day so filled companionable silence in the courtyard or because we have the neurology appointment yesterday and I don't know when neurologist is always an hour late but my brain's going Hindi how about some chocolate it's Yakking at me about doesn't that smell good whatever cook food must be in the last mile that I can smell you know and if she could talk in use whatever we're that's that's a good thing so she gets very frustrating when she'll make you know or can you say that again and man she just gets really fed up with you when you ask that question returned to ask that one so I don't object to sitting in that she was alive she could she lost the ability to put words together in any way otherwise so it uh because one it's soothing and it's like yesterday she she hadn't eaten all day and I'm like yeah that's not true and get something to drink and they were great 'cause they said we'll come back in Xyz time and I'm thinking okay that's not arrest she'll open the door I'll thank God insist it's just like rate at least trust you to that she would be so what I checked mom and we ended up there extra early not that that was a benefit and I said I know we're early the more that you can look at today whatever her abilities are envy really grateful for it that's a great day uh my mom lost the ability to speak like I I think the last two or maybe even three years I I I would I would love to go back to that time where my mom could put any words together and make a sentence it's the parking lot and worked out great so that was nice because nobody wants to sit in the doctor's office and mom certainly doesn't and we just gene and you can figure out what she what she means his she uses enough of the right words that you can at least make pretty good guess but sometimes she'll make it oh mentally is try to find the the little bit of sunshine and all that darkness that is just her constant repeating the same words and nation instead reading her emotions you know for motions are fear she all yesterday was very interesting she had an accident which is the first issue with incontinence something reassurance on if she's angry she might need somebody to listen or somebody to at least the idea for you to just go again because things change over time and just to get so that your current as to what her abilities author of the Little Hamburger restaurant drinking you know she's a huge diet coke fan but does not get that where she lives so I treated her to that and I had a nice you know I was like there's still gonNA put us here significantly early for the doctor and she goes if I needed to come back sooner I'll call you and she did and we were already halfway breath but she just kept referring to that you know pardon me gang that bitch and just kept saying while who's upsetting you you know if that's at all helpful that's how Alzheimer's Works Raid It's GonNa keep a taking taking and US needed so we'll just have our drinks enjoyed for the doctor she kept telling me how nice the place was how big it was even though it wasn't and I just I try to look at it from Russians and less to the exact words that she's saying especially as the words are starting to become like jumbled not I tried to ask her she wanted a snack and she's like well just whatever you want I'm like no what what what are you I'm not hungry printing whatever words she's using to describe it she needs somebody to comforter may be with a hug or pat on the hand or interesting yesterday is after I said Who's who's upsetting you and you know who who who did that to you and it should just kept validate that yes something frustrating happened or you know so that's something to think about is to start listening to her they said that the doctor is usually running behind the Oh yes she's like fifteen or twenty minutes behind message terrific mom doesn't wait patiently we're going across the parking lot oh her eyes Mike Rate Pretty Nice little restaurant reminded me of one that was around the corner from our first home so it's that's kind of I tried I think the person she's mad at US herself she just you know it's like her mind isn't going that way is in verbalize it and yeah and the other thing especially when anger or she's reacting to something but the words are not giving you information and once we left to go to the doctor she forgot I think she wanted to say the couple couple of more things about that particular person being upsetting her or if her emotions are anger than she needs a different response from you so if she is worried or afraid of something then she needs who's causing trouble Levin point them out to me and I'll fix it and she had no idea what she was talking about sometimes she'll say something you WanNa call the grown up version or if she had resisted that I think next week I'll just take home all the regular underwear so I knew so she's very she's always trying to take care of you and help you do whatever you want because it's just easier to make a decision and sometimes I have to be like fine she doesn't want to make a decision if she was hungry she tells me that's right you know you know I would be kind of not ranting it was like low key ranting flooding so these sense and I had already been told that she'd had the accident in the dining room and like I'll take care whoever messed with great there you go take her side Oh yeah because isn't that what you would wind is but she is caught them so off guard it was funny and I'm just laughing because I'm like oh you did not mess with my mother she fine if you cross the line with her bricklayer to you and I figured it's probably two hours since she had lunch something probably not hungry we need French fries already this junk food that's here anyway I'm pretty sure she's talking about herself was kind of helpful I was in the right frame of mind to figure that one out but I also knew I just kinda gently asked we do you want something to eat and I just get sick at all and listen whatever you want them like it's not about me right is she could not articulate a separate person was just this amorphous person had upset her but I'm like I said well d what in the hell is the matter with my husband why is he is not yours random like God I don't know you tell me and there was funny because the you know the staff's like we can't believe that she was saying that and I'm like you don't know what my mom was like his repeating the fact that he's dead is not going to help her it's not gonna convince her otherwise it's not going to comfort her though the answers that you're giving her God got the we had an accident this how we handle it and I forgot to ask them why if she had been wearing the pups liberty on a pointer out to me and she just kept wobble like it was almost humorous and then I helped her get the bottom half of her clothing on and I said Oh hey let's let's let's go out was getaway worry yes we're going to the doctor one of the biggest challenges there you go what did she say usually stops or so this keep ranting but if I say I don't know you tell me two or three times it usually does absolutely the right one I once taught a family I led an evening at a assisted living were the facility and she looked at me you know and we were I mean just shook our heads in a means night we were trying to persuade him that much the Brandman raving about this B I t c h that upset her they had no idea who she was talking about but I think it was her I was I was very we had family members they are and this one son was telling me that his mother had a hard time remembering that the father had had writer approach is to change the subject is to start talking about how much we all love that gray there's a number of different ways is when it's always when we go and watch kids I don't get the statement she realizes I'm taking her to an appointment that's not fun I get the back in the shoe wants the same thing I think which is feeling that somebody's got her back in it cuts it off eventually he'd be like what's the math my husband won't don't you remember he had ice surgery so he doesn't drive anymore in the day she told me he were gonNA know it and you're going to be looking for where the heck that line is so that you could back up over and they were like that's really interesting to know because they were just shocked now when I think about the prison aggravates me most it's me I can understand your mom feeling that way yeah was this was interesting because but we are worried about what was going on with my dad so all that other stuff was definitely not a priority and then you know he he doesn't drive anywhere because he's been dead for two and a half years not telling her that giving much better here on serious giving shredder he answers right because we know that and he was so insistent that she gets the exact year that she understand that in that that he went to the graveyard voted it was not an angel who is not a perfect person none of us are you know he put up a lot of crap and he did as best he could for all of us you know the strain of complaint was but I said well we got out someplace and ranting and raving how why why did he not come as you can get creative and lead that discussion in in in a different direction but the specific facts about his passing when that happened in that he's didn't mess with my mother she didn't talk potty mouth not the bad word she didn't use really bad ones but that one's views on it only makes relive that and there's no benefit you it it's it's just too much on her she doesn't need to relive that you're what he liked to eat or name anything and if you could get the conversation going in that direction you're in much better shape josh much better that you instead start to reminisce about his good qualities or otherwise right raise the things you used to laugh about you were mad wouldn't you want me to say rate lets us to will all off the equity will go get him beat them up for you it's right I that's all we can ask ourselves and our family members and she was just comradery and I forgot exactly what the you she does look to me and she goes oh that's I say I'm saying BS supposed to be cleaned podcast with cheese the full words and I thought I'm not saying that anymore so good for you well there's times she gets on that topic and there was one day she was as she literally complained about him and I thought well MM along and I'm like do you really think he wants to come to the fabric store with us oh off and she just looks at me and she's probably not I'm thinking yeah no kidding yeah yeah like just try to talk to her about him the way we might have when he was alive which is right on grasp the zone and wrought the food a graph to his mom and you know in that the director maybe I'll try to try to see if I could pivot to positive I just usually try to or Turkey joke I mean I think you're a good job because it's like yeah it'd be kind of Nice to just maybe reminisce about as good qualities the negative ones you know apparently the negative ones have done back you know and I was a little concerned but yeah no it's it's much better to try to be with them where they're at which is really labor and they were renovating the entire complex and because the dog did not have structure she was getting kind of correct yes just agree with their yeah my husband went and picked her up and said I'm taking misty to the groomers misty never came back wait which is terrible and my poor sister and I were like we were trying to find that magic clue where I know and she doesn't realize that my dad's gone so she's like well she must be with my husband yeah that's where she's at whenever her the benefit of having the dog was less than the what was becoming almost like dog abuse like we could not get the rather doc last time I rode in the car with him driving was horrifyingly scary he must've hit him so much beyond Oh dear oh I was so embarrassed and they're just like L. that's misty and I'm like that's really gross so in the executive director of the sure and what's interesting is a little over a year ago we had to rehome her dog the emory care led her have the dog was almost double her wild and crazy and there was one day mom and I came back from whatever you're doing I let her out in the courtyard she ran on how the dog managed to run ran circles ever way whether if she said able to talk to them released she can watch and laugh and enjoy that it's a it's a really healthy thing that you're doing and entire residents he never told me we had to rehome or he just kind of beat around the Bush I get the mess so it was it was nice that he took that it was hard to know like we're not there at night is the dog give you mom comfort at night rate I don't think the dog was that comforting like if you're not going to go pee we're going back in open the door caregivers like Oh hey there's misty misty just lake on the floor and I'm like added that it stimulation for her right so think of it that way think of that like is a mental exercise for your mom to engage with people in go to not feed her man was we lost that battle I'm sure the dogs like I win because she knew how to get food from all the other old in the courtyard looking for my mom my mom was in the bathroom I'm like dog one hundred ten degrees out here in she's a black poodle that like I said she weighed twice what she should a hard times on it's like Kay we're just sitting here watching children I got fifteen things to do at home today and hi mom stresses about that dog still and it's been thirteen months since we helped her she's always like well my dog is around here somewhere twenty five tomorrow I really do I really don't need to sit here at the pool watch the kids but makes her beautiful being I'm sure your mom gets a lot of enjoyment they those other things which I know are on your mind because it's only natural but honestly you know that day is a gift that you have decision out of our hands because you know it was hard to know is the dog being a comfort to Menam or she just an annoyance because at the time she was annoying tomorrow and and it's it's I don't think anybody else would notice it but there just seems to be just as little tiny bit more clarity I mean that's that's almost not last week because my husband and I had been at a conference and we got in at one o'clock in the morning so this is like thirteen hours later I'm sitting with her wrong word but it's like this just like a little spark that's not there when she's just in the memory residents in sit out in the courtyard I felt so good he needs where we've been outside at the park or the pool out in the sunshine out in nature right and we we girls day you know we don't have watched kids and she was griping that you know he should've taken us in the courtyard and she's like oh where are you taking me today and I was like Oh shoot wasn't gonna take you anywhere she's never asked me out there and you know it's basically a big rectangle the middle of the buildings and you'd see the trees on the other side of the roof and they were blowing pretty hard in the wind but we we're protected it was just really nice she fell asleep for a few minutes I fell asleep and then I woke up with a startled myself away from the White Oh crap she's gone and you know the day will come where you're gonNA cherish every minute and wish you had another afternoon to spend at the pool with so try that just keep listed we don't have a rotary meeting I have lunch with her so I'll have to do that in the residents this next time now that the weather's starting to not be oh great still northern California rain yesterday that's Pretty Weird it's easier to eat with her there when it's not nice outside I tried you're like okay that's interesting and yesterday I don't know she wasn't really fed up with me or something after the doctor is we walk in I was letting the Mike let's go sit in the courtyard it's such a beautiful day and I said supposed to be really hot later this week and and she said Oh how nice it was I'm here to always wants me to stay in have dinner with her so I might have to do that maybe in a couple of weeks I always go after rotary so just like she's like right there and if I'm not if I'm engaging with somebody else and not her she'll she doesn't get offended but it's you could tell that she's like hillary axes to be with her and you know you're you're being present with her gender your heart is what she take her out as long as the weather is decent we go out but now I'm going to have to go back to the library during kids our and the fabric so if I ask you for help that you might start to resent me or whatever and actually the research done by the social psychologist workfare to I'm sure they do I'm sure they do yeah there's one countless she's always like nurse nurse I'm like something to remember too that when we ask people to help us we're giving them a chance to do something that they think is important right checking this quote because I wanted to be sure to mention this story so when we ask people for help there's always that concern right that they want to people want to be helpful and they want to show up for their friends and people they care about and neighbors because it's extol nice that's really nice you're giving her greet stimulation it's I don't have to deal with the other residents because they all think and you need to let people knew it in very clear terms that you need help and that you're willing to accept help when you do that very clearly then people are much more eager to say yes when you ask them but you have to persuade them and that you also need to persuade I I think they involuntarily Kinda start taking steps back from you because they're frustrated it's like one help Jennifer I wanNA help Barbara think about and I did not realize that but we everybody likes to have a purpose and when they can see that you have a need and they can't figure out how to phones you probably thought you were sleeping so peacefully as she didn't want to disturb me I'm I'm a little surprised she didn't wake me up for dinner they are and they actually like you more if you give them the chance to help you so just something else thinking about now that's a really good good thing people it's easy for nobody to think that it's their job to answer it but if you send it to one person and you say I need you to do x they don't they're going to ask him for they're not accepting it so I'm just I'm just GONNA stand back here wait till they ask ray etcetera and this idea finds that helpers tend to like the people that they help more not less after helping them so help you or give you their purpose which I'm not sure that's quite the right grammar but hopefully arrays getting that direction I think it frustrates him and they're like why can't help his grandfather had been taken care of grandma and he threw up the white flags and said I can't do this anymore and he was talking to his kids it's a lot easier to see that oh that's my responsibility now and so if the people that you're asking for help get that message a bit not as much recently vail came near and they literally this is what they call it they call it the committee and they all said Okay what do you feel that you can do he is or what can I please speak to Diane no you cannot speak to Diane because all she's going to give you a bunch of Gibberish so that's why you're talking to me I get I go from zero stuff which I can do but I'd rather not and not everybody was in the same town so some people would make phone calls even though they weren't and then I look at my watch like those probably in their dinners this okay well I don't know what she was thinking when she just abandoned me out ear talked so long called the Karen Committee and it was another podcast or whose grandmother had recently passed from Alzheimer's and their families in his exactly rain so it's a lot easier to get help get somebody that make dinner for you on Thursday next week but it is caregiver know what had transpired at the neurologist as she walks down the hall on like abandoned she also doesn't normally what are you comfortable with Dewey and like I cannot stand calling insurance companies if I call and talk to people that are going to tell me what our policy it can make all the difference I believe it and then I interviewed this is almost a year ago the episode there's two of them because we I can't convince her I don't work there so I try to help so that just reinforces that I met L. quote say I can't believe it was just and who might even enjoy doing that yeah that'd be like I think they had people that don't with the legal paperwork insurance and then super irritated really quickly and so it's much better somebody else does that it's an odd tiger is somebody else on your committee who can do that to get somebody to make dinner for you every Thursday or every week great more every day so yes this more specific you are in your requests the more likely you are to get yeses and then you also have to be if you're the person asking for help you have to be willing to creativity and try to figure out a way to say yes to that whatever it is they're offering and you have to take what you're given great at the end of the day so and sometimes helpful if they're willing to help you you have to accept how they're going to do it that spray that's exactly right it'll be harder for me was I'm kind of a very specific Li- like things in very specific way so you have to let go of that I get that or just be or be really select you know so you might be like super concerned about every pot being in a certain place in Incheon but you're okay with washing the blue of about the things that you ask for help rate maybe you only ask for help on the things that you're less concerned about exactly right that's okay it helps you think about a different approach to the to the answer that you wanted to provide so it can be help in a specific way that you kind of tailored to them it'd be harder right no and then not make open ended like can you just want help with all one friend who was notoriously always late for everything would frustrate my dad because she'd say why would I got errands I do they talked about visiting mom after we moved into the memory care and I don't think any of them did because I think it's scary and quilt and all that my mom had the same thing she was a cer- optimist and she had two friends that would pick her up and take her to the meeting and doc it's well the one thing that I know from like you were saying earlier that your mom had friends that still took her to church accept what help your offered so you may be asking for X. Ends on May offer you why be a little bit flexible user colle where the the the headache paperwork you know because they weren't there to do hands on and so you can also do that with non-family oh do blah blah blah and I will be back at four so if you're going to be back before four I need to know if they're going to be back after four is thanks she cared it was like I'm doing favor cope that's Kinda the impression that I got from the conversations but onto costco that big and confusing is just no it's not a good idea but she was never sure when she'd get back and my them that they are the ones that you need health from raith these specifically so I like an like an email where if you send an email out to forty okay and her siblings and said you need you need to research care homes I can't do this anymore so that's what they did but this family and I've talked about them ask you know you're you're retired attorney can you help me puzzle through this paperwork and sometimes if you ask for a specific it's like this I knew this lady when she was sharp and now it's like she's not at think it's it's kind of scary if you don't feel educated on recalls and sometimes that's one way that an adult child you know I'm not so I'm somebody who you really wouldn't want me in the kitchen things like if somebody's helping you put all the pots away wrong to Sri rage them later when they're gone topic deal if you can tolerate that leap pitch in a little bit and take something off a take that part the administration part off of our parents you know it's an idea We get so frustrated I I told him once I said tell her you're taking diane out you're GonNa do errands great I'm yard how nice is that or or even using one of these online tools like hearing bridge or something can can you put together diffic- or say I'm struggling with Exxon why is there anything you can is there any way you can help even if they can't do either x y maybe they'll find the Z. to help you with so bray that's it exactly and as adult children I think there's a I tried to facilitate help through my dad is like the conduit and I have learned now that that uncreative during Alzheimer's the better because we're constantly going to be faced with things that we've yet to ever be faced with before rate's GonNa be has your back by five so I know win through dinner in the Crock pot or whatever you know he did not communicate with her why it was frustrating in our our parent who's busy caring for our loved one who's got Alzheimer's you know they may be a bit too busy to start making a to expect and how to deal with it you know please don't remind her that her husband's dead because that's not GonNa do anybody any favors was re homed or whatever waiting for you you know that I do and I enjoy doing and that could be either putting together by on around and formed a committee around him I think that would have been a lot better and I really wish I could have done that for him we all are doing the best that we can owning people you might be able to find someone who's willing to come over and sit with your loved one for an hour when afternoon right in the court there's lots of ways we can help them to be creative there you go how we're willing we are to be improvisational early cognitive impairment that was so easy to miss I don't know what it was made it was just his personality that's highly probable but I if I could I'm GonNa take with me when I do these aired why the hell this woman took my mother places like Costco no but hey if it didn't kill her brain I could not take at least it's worth exploring whether we could be the one to to kind of Priscilla Tate that in some situations you know because sometimes are back it I don't know if he was having if it was the stress of carrying for my mother and his chronic illnesses or if it was a sign of the House with agreed towels then you might ask someone for help with laundry but not with the kitchen if you get our yeah one two why I enjoy just trying to talk about this ensure the ideas because in the hopes that may be I can help somebody sees something that they didn't think before because as a barrier and if there was a way of surrounding ham with people that have said Hey I can step in and help with this and I can take Diana meteorite my blog to keep telling stories and lead sessions to educate is that there were so many things that on these days or Blah Blah Blah I think he might have been less resistant you might need a little coaxing or a lot of coaxing and realized that running all the suggestions that whom Oh why don't you talk to Gloria about why it's frustrates you that you have no idea when she's bringing a new thing after another and so the more that we're ready to just give a try you know try responding in this way do they have so much going on right they are doing all their normal things for caring for themselves all they're used the end picking up little by little all of those chores that that person did so you talk about somebody who has no more room on their list and and and that's the important thing rate but you were showing up in you're doing things that's isn't that what drives you to do this podcast I knew that that's what there was people who were willing to rotate in and out and do you know this is where adult children who have some of these more modern skills can who'll shores that they have around the house whatever they are and then they are caring for all physical things that are loved one needs it look out the window and watch him but you know and he felt like well she whisks safe in there which is true she couldn't get to the kitchen to the stover you have to go with it until somebody's learned that I think it's just really scary that makes it harder for people to offer help so the reachout you ask needs to end in B. Space Uh rate is it's that care partner they have no more room and so any little thing that we can do his days my dad used mow the lawn he loves working in the yard with you for lock my mom in the Sun Real AAC tomorrow try responding in outweigh which works better on any given day anything could so the were that we kind of I hope that there were so many things that I see more clearly now that I could not see them and thus party it gets a little comfortable with that the better I believe that the one thing I wanna end with because I don't want suck up your entire evening is it back then and taking the initiative I probably could have organized a few people to come on a certain days of the week whatever but had never occurred to me with my mom and I don't live with her and it's much easier to understand why my dad was the way he was so when you say they don't have any more room on their plate motivates me every day we'll carriers are under so much overwhelm and stress it's like when you've got fifteen things you've got to do so so I was in my forties re the same thing if the parent is in their eighties in showing signs of all time family under stress made you do better than we get right that's that's it right you look at this and go we should do you and that phone call it should take fifteen minutes took forty five and now your mother though you're just losing your mind that is how I feel all the time dealing due to take something off their list and maybe supplement a little extra care a little extra attention you know I look back now and I think about all the the and so that's part of why the divorce rate do this now is to try to share the situations where in so that the hey for my dad to accept it in the way she was giving it in you know it helps to understand that you know when you're so overwhelmed sometimes you just got a to tag along on errands which still understand what she did that she was try she was doing what she could to help rate and it just it was hard connects instead of that instead of why we should you be that's great I want you to do better than we did that's definitely it's been a grand idea to have a few of her friends drop by and spend that time with her and if I had thought about it you know and be respond compassionately understand then I had other days where it was less wonderful about it sometimes love is being compassionate and understanding that this man is I feel like I'm under stress he is in a pressure cooker rate is to deal with stuff you're dislike make decision d. a. want someone to take her mom to the cope quilting bee or to the optimists and what happens with our cure partner rate the one who is hoping the person with Alzheimer's they are so anything but snow was super social a better way there were better ideas that you know it's certainly when oxygen get that I make sure everybody understands this is different than how to this is the opposite of a how to this is these are the choices that once immerse rate we have a whole life experience and you know things that we never confronted her parents about things that we always confronted her parents we all bring a lifetime of experience with our appearance to Alzheimer's Ray now my mom had early onset shields well you've made it to the end of yet another episode I hope you know I have this little logo here that is on my website in it's brain with a big heart in the middle and my whole perspective I want the next better than I did when I share this time line in patterns in time one thing about Alzheimer's at about what my dad needed for me I thought he needed me to do things like he needed me to what he needed was more love a stressful job to do and caregiver as a job it's not a relationship as long as we can show people love they'll probably accept help a little bit more `bout

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Medication Management Made Easy!

Fading Memories: Alzheimer's Caregiver Support

1:05:50 hr | 2 years ago

Medication Management Made Easy!

"Welcome to fading memories a supportive podcast for those of US caring for a loved one with memory loss good afternoon care heroes if I make a family feel that much more comfortable and they don't have to go through what you were talking about it still so good about it skittles. We were managing visiting schedules and Decision Schedules and all of that but the war dementia collapsed with a heart condition and my mother fell and broke her neck ended up being so rough so I had three very independent parents one day and within three months not really very helpful because he's so far away but at least he could talk to the doctors and decipher some of the things and then is your father's illness that was kind of the inspiration for creating the pill map it was my father my mother it's part of it was when they sent them home and they make the decision that they're ready to go home and you know our mouths were just Dan and I'm the only daughter so I have a brother who's a doctor who lives in Asheville North Carolina and it was very helpful but dropped open how could you possibly think that they're ready to go home but then we received so now my full pretty smart doing life and I felt like collectively we'd be able to figure this out and when they were in the my focus was my mom and dad in their own home and so we add to manage family members paid caregivers three of them went from completely independent traveling and you know having their bare fun and and me doing my life in Spanish and I've been trying to do that it was it was so beyond my level of we had tragedy my my oldest brother actually died of a heart attack the day my mom broke her neck oh my gosh we had nick so before we talk about the pill map I keep trying to call kill mill tell me about your just my brain just could not wrap my brain around everything that I needed to digest I had three brothers there and my mother-in-law that all were hit at about the same time within a three month period my dad who already had had of course the medications to deal with we had it was basically like learning a new language overnight and I still haven't dance and I know you and I spoke about having that year years was two thousand seventeen right this was three years ago all all need and thanks for joining me Kim Kimber sorry no problem people do that they certain my name to automatic have four grown children one daughter's nurse and the other three are all well into their careers and my point of that is everyone is it and suddenly we had to we had three different parents in three different hospitals Dan. My mother-in-law was diagnosed with four stage it was her third round of cancer but the one that really the metastatic breast cancer that was in some ways so much harder but in some ways it was easier because he was more like a child that I could make all these decisions a person when they go through Dementia Alzheimer's but my dad went through early stage very angry very doing it down to my father my father because of dementia she for those calls within a couple hours so it is just it was like if you can picture movie was complete and total chaos I'm so originally we tried to get some help and get someone in there so that my dad could get mad at someone else other than my mom so I was trying to protect them my mom initially but then my dad after the the heart issue and when he came home he was essentially bedridden funds for and he accepted just the stage he was at I know everyone experiences a completely different the amazing smartest man I know was now completely dependent and talking about it outta bed so he was confined and relatively happy because his mom ridden and with Alzheimer's and all of us collectively trying to figure that out almost nothing but from my mom who is on multiple medications we had numerous visits suspect you know he thought everyone was stealing money my mom got the brunt of it because she was just there with them all the time nine one one visits to the -mergency rooms we witnessed so many other family showing up the emergency room and it I know you know the story and I think that just pulling it back and her medications properly when she you know showed up at emergency or first responders showed up at our house or you know my niece was and we sat him up in the living room so it wouldn't be in there with my dad and we set up this the best we could just the journey and my dad had a spreadsheet that he'd put together in his computer dad who is at brilliant aerospace engineer that lived in a you know perfectly controlled world he built their house he he he taking care of her and needed to know something we created that this one basic guide that stays with the patient Erkin the right dosage and and it was so stressful and it was like I don't know for sure that we ever got it right you know I I don't have My Dad finally passed away at ninety three after the we had two years completely it seemed like the only thing that I could control was keeping her from being over medicated and communicate Oh when he was home after his month in the hospital and as we were talking offline my husband and my sister and I were all part of it was you know we're flipping through the paperwork from the hospital trying to you know get the right bottle with the right paperwork signed was just kind of accepting like a child that we were coming and going rain so people I've written this before that you know for times and so that's been our journey that's the every time I see my mom which was today are we were struggling with the keep these this list of medications stop these change these add these a home on hospice so we ended up in the same place with somebody else was dealing with the medications there was a lot less of them you do the best you get so we set up what you know big screen TV and and the whole bit and he was not able to get back he was horrible didn't want him to feel horrible or act horrible to the caregivers because nobody needs all that so you know very smart people as well my sister's got an MBA and my husband and I run around businesses so it's like we're not dumb I don't I don't think most people are map on the show notes and link to the video videos awesome so but can you kind of describe what is because yes because he'd had a kidney transplant he had anti-rejection men's M my sister really wanted him to stay on his insulin because when you're the confidence that that we did get it right he ended up falling like within a week an end up at a different hospital and then he can you can you go text app persons can you touch her face you know he'd be watching the TV and he would have us do crazy things that we would just do so and regular listeners know I'm also professional photographers so I'm a very visible creative person sheets like Vineeta spreadsheet not until box and we do our family really believing the pillbox because we would fill my mom's spill box has seriously wish we'd had this okay well the first thing that that I have found that people mistake are still map for isn't pillbox so it's for the two of them you know a couple of weeks and that way at least the caregiver or whoever's with my mom Chan this morning noon dinner nighttime it has the four and so we fill it for the entire weekend is sometimes we'll just sit there and fill it only way we do not Miss Medicaid our own parents which we we actually did ourselves miss medicate them is we took one of each pill name of the pill and then each time of day that they would have to take them so anyone that was with my mom at hill map that really was inspired by the whole situation but he was on hospice so the pills were reduced reversion of it I've seen people write on paper and Color Code it but the way it started for us is we finally decided the any time could look at that and see okay this is correct 'cause my mom would say I don't think I'm supposed to take the balloon white gone anymore and whether it was cut in half or if it was a blue and white pill or if there were two white ones that kind of look alike but we took a piece of paper nation her insurance information the date of birth so we just kept improving it just for our own family purpose and then pretty confidently pull that said of a pills out in the morning are five at dinner but hill map is basically your map taped one of each pill so if someone was taking one pill four times a day we just had that one but then to the right of it we had the then that cursing could say will let's look joy let's look at that pill and then Oh yeah there it is yeah you're supposed to take it in the morning so it we almost ended up an emergency I just think you know we're doing the best we can for her protecting her as well as we can just a guide and the way it works is it replaces that excel sheet that you were talking about it replaces the we I've seen it and people come in with bags of pills big baggies the pills they come in with those sheets they come in with mostly it's now another company owns it but so we put it together put it in the patent ending that was enough challenge because they're not allowed to do the injection wow this is insane right though I'm GonNa put a picture of the pill passed out or whatever and she's asked they're asking the family what medications is Sean we would just hand the pill map and we'd just be quiet and they would progressed and we kept putting more information on it like the doctors information things she was allergic to the pharmacy Let the doctors know so they needed to know she was on blood thinners right so they had to wait three days to operate on her when she neck she already had a fib so we were already starting you know having a clear vision of what we needed to to rave about it and they would just type it in and they knew everything they needed to know so then when we show up at the hospital in the emergency room we do the same thing I don't know I just grabbed these on my mom's dresser because they were here no one knows and it stalls my mom when she broke her is that ever a here hubby you do it it's not something I can tolerate figuring out how to do just I don't need the frustration not GonNa do it right now for that person and you need to know what's in their body what medications are taken so we my brother who's a sugars out of whack an average person like you and I we just get angry might be a little unpleasant deal with but people are diabetic me when his blood sugars chance to just simplify make take that out of the equation when you're trying to get people healthy so there made them and the response was amazing so all of those that I mentioned are using them with the discharge are the intake nurse would just lay it next to the computer and we would watch as other I don't know how many emergency rooms your listeners have been in chip but ugly too many there's there's you're seeing other families come in and you're you're watching you know as their intaking people took her vertebrae completely in half because she was on all these blood thinners but you know there's all this stuff that's like emergency you have to make a decision we show up in the emergency room which shot at the doctor even the Dennis we would show up with what we call the pill map and we would get rave reviews and took it to some of the hospitals so we took it to UCLA USC Hollywood crass we took it to where we the people in the hospital or first of all the first responders the ambulance guys that would come in and the first thing they wanna know as you know she can't speak for herself she they're doing these pilots we just brought it out December sixteenth of two thousand eighteen with it just went live and like I said real life businesses firelight safety training and my husband and I crack created an online training course and and slightly the sizes and when we brought him home from the hospital the first time he had pills in a pill box so we about if you're trying to picture at about nine inches tall by seven inches wide but the the unique thing about it is are these little clear windows information and they had no idea what the other took so that's probably what I'm having fun with is just asking people how they honey independent people on their own have no idea what the their spouses taking so it just shocked me when I started really looking at the hospitals that we've approached are all using it already and it's not sold in pharmacies but it sold on Amazon there's some companies selling it on Amazon because they doctor said I think that you need to perfect this a little more and try to get it out there so the public and kind of entrepreneurs anyway and so spouses maybe they each take a number of pills plus supplements they've no idea because they're both very competent they believe it should be used for travel you know if you travel anywhere you take a lot of medications it's just that it's a card and it measures and this is for travelling so they don't put him in I'm a little I'm not Taipei at all varies Sanguinetti and you know us it was just I wanna see Three d pill I I wanna know confidently it just gives you so much peace of mind green that that you know whoever is with my loved one and I have talked to a lot of spouses we've done a lot of research there's so many so there's there's people that that literally they'll put them in a baggie right aw I know and there's APPs so that happened as we actually spilled some pills originally and we went on and there's APPs that are universally the anyone can use them and you go on the website and you type in your description of the pill and then they show you the pills and that did help us but for you know has this lion on it so you don't mistake one pill for another which is also a huge issue again had a ton of white ones it things just workout but with pills I think I would put them if they weren't like tylenol or vitamin so I said wait a minute point five I'm supposed to read that in this tiny little print on my white print out she I take into this you know this person pours her pills in a jewelry box and she knows she does goes around at one time and I asked the husband and today I've got a exciting guest her name is Kimber West war and she created something called kill map and it's something we all I think I would keep them in separate bags so people have shown me they pull out of their purse and I'll have just a baggy with I showed him or poem out and he looked at it and this is this was so great he said this is supposed to be cut in half his works for her but I said what if something happened to her one day and you needed to rela- that does that showed the one of the pills so it's the three d. adds that actual pill you can see own pill has a little seon it or that pill it's just a local hospitals I took into the pharmacy school USC's at School of Pharmacy solely to get feedback this was before we ever took my mom was having a really rough time and so I- somehow managed to get her into the doctor and were sitting there and off you're not supposed to be taking this whole pill and I said how would I know that any said let let me look so he looks on the computer and it says point five fifty milligrams metropolis Holler digoxin or whatever it was the figure out which pills these were okay so yet your day they're all mixed up we had a separate pills try to figure out which pill put the back in the pill keep checking their pills that's the craziest story I've ever heard ohno it's not the great okay I'll tell us a couple more because they'll sound fun yeah it's a grab bag so we ourselves when I said we miss medicated are my our parents uh multiple colors of pills and it's not even just like one day supply it's just they just put them in their purse because they know so easy I think it would be to fix that kind of communication but as a user the only way I can protect myself it to the pharmacy they give me these pills and I'm supposed to not cut that in half so I can go on and on about how take a look at this is this what you think we're supposed to be taking the last time my mom went in the hospital was two weeks ago and I did not go with her my brother an and my parents you know and the people I love is with Co map is far medications because now we go to the pharmacy we just bring that in and we say and they tried to reconcile by going into her universal records it shows that she should be taking metropolis you point five blood clots and you're like three times more than that good so within the system to pull that out of the computer if because they might want to then three times a day which was completely wrong so this is why we have to protect ourselves system student of pharmacy that there's something that happens when doctors prescribe something for patient there's a real reluctance ago my husband ended up with blood clots in his lungs so he's on blood thinner and they said now he's very tall are- prescribe it so what that does is it causes since my mom showed up at a hospital that's not her hospital does she does not take metropolis and is not supposed to that was something she was on a year ago well he said it's still on the computer the problem was he wasn't taking the medication right because the doses was wrong they gave him the wrong dosage. Nobody's really sure who where the entire time we've been married which is almost thirty years they always seem to give him the lowest possible dose of medications like you know he got so adamant affection and our daughter had an infection you know not much sooner than him and I'm looking at it there's no way in hell this prescriptions GonNa fix what you've got like computers are the end all of correctness well there's something within I don't understand it but someone tried to explain it to me I young aw not skinny sorrier and they always seemed I mean I know they know how tired they way you and I yeah I don't know where she got this but I have on the computer that she's should be taking metropolis but I don't see tropical all in here and I said that's because the system sucks yeah it's interesting because you were saying the pharmacist is like no you're supposed to be half this pill about a month or about six a seven point eight I'm like dude don't even look at the knives and like Oh my God I was freaking out because I'm like you know if you bumped something is not strong enough so he's on the blood thinners and they WANNA get his blood thinned out to specific level so that the blood clots can dissolve and it's not super good on those things but I was pretty sure I'm like this is like a life threatening problem this is not something that he just all will be well hopefully and he's going to the clinic again his blood tested and it's not sending off not standing up and they were normally were like unless I'm surprised it's not you know seeping out your skin I'm like this gross but like really freaked out because if they want you at a in a one and a one point five they want him at two point five two point eight one point eight is like oh we're almost there it goes the next week eh up where they might have had a little blame to spread around just follow the most politically correct way of doing that but 'cause I asked him because I know he's not again -biotics we can get a little bit lax way we are I am pretty sure he's not lax and are doing it wrong and he so I asked him and he's like well you know like okay you need to do it exactly like pharmacist said and you need guys got to get the dosage right I'm freaking out that and we've got three golden retrievers that and one of them's young and in wasn't rescue and he loves my husband to death and sometimes you just Lee yeah my mom's arm from her little new little dog is not liking it because of the blood thinners so yeah it's got to be careful yeah so unfortunately we're at the right level now it was interesting it's like one day no you can't walk the dogs you can't exercise don't do this don't do that and the next day his blood chiefs yeah like a sixty pound dogs like leaps up in like like I'm here catch me I thought you know toenail scratching we have to wait a couple of months so we probably have six or seven weeks now not that money off of it they'll test to see if the blood I have to say they are I've been at enough meetings now where I sat in just curious about how they're seen it to now where they want like feel free to exercise like like in twenty four hours now all is back to normal I don't think so but we'll see I guess medication discussion by the pharmacist so I don't know how many of you have been involved with they just so it's it's you know it's great but it's literally going to hurt you more than help you and yeah might be expensive from the medical perspective and they certainly no it's a huge problem and it's it's in an analogy that was really good that the at the hospital it's like you know they're getting you they're doing everything they can to get you balanced and two billion dollar problem people coming back to the hospital solely because they have not taken their medications properly so they I heard process so they're working there are some processes that I was happy to see such as bedside walks because he's got nerve damage and he drags his toes jazz drags his toes toenails get broken and then you get that's bloody and fancy schmancy so they been trying all these fancy schmancy ways to get to help people in are you strong enough to now leave the hospital but what they give you when you leave is a UNICYCLE has to happen people have to be aware that it is gonNA be traumatizing you're at your most emotional state when you're trying to figure that out Calife now that would have been a big help for us to yes that I think so there are some positive things and what's one away is sometimes it still gets really ad breath you know like bending over our oldest golden retriever wears shoes on his back feet when they don't have a discussion with you they just check you out and tell you also to go to the pharmacy and you've got your patient in you know so now they're bringing at some hospitals it's an obstacle they don't even tell you this is gonna be an obstacle when you get home they just tell you here it is so I just think the conversation just one anyway so you might be able to do it in a normal day but when you're so emotional about saving someone's life are killing them occasions are just it's just way too easy to do wrong bright and I'm a visual person obviously being a photographer and an artist so what I saw the yeah right now I wouldn't have to spend some promising things I've heard I'd have to assume that because our age of memory care residences that are more people centered at love that and I'm GonNa go to the dementia village in and guess what you don't know how to ride a UNICYCLE so it's it's brand new it's shiny they said bicycle but then I took it to unicycle and it's right outside Canada Canada right outside Vancouver and it's small and my husband did the you know I know that people are in I have a brother that's Dr daughter that's a nurse they are fully wholeheartedly want to save lives but the pill map on the videos like I said it's linked as gotta go look at it I was like where was that when I need right opening at the end of the month so when this episode comes out they should be moving in residence and it was I think seventy three hundred learned that because they're incorporating film up at that stage where they're they're gonNA sit there saying this is one of your like if they would have told me I'm line is that money's being wasted and that's what I heard from USC farm SCO was that a numbers indications were one medication will replace another one that you take three times a day they're trying to come up I only have just heard these at these meetings they're they're bringing the medications to the bedside they're talking to the family and them and the patient before they take them home I would have that would have this point my mom's visual processing is so bad that you know you can show her something your phone mic hold it right in front of her face and she and then you need something that's going to help you so and then they're also trying to work towards making it relation as aging that we have more of these problems so now they're realizing oh we gotta do something about this because it just seems so logical it's my bending over the shoes on the dog sometimes he stands up and he's busy and he's out of breath and it's like you I'll do that put the pick I think it's nationwide were in the billions I'm sure and that could be spent for something so much better than readmitting someone and spending he said that's like what we're spending for mom and where my mom is that they have a beautiful courtyard that the memory residents can go out into but trying to come up with is there medication equivalent that that person could just take one time of day because then you're going to eliminate some of the heirs the village and they can put in a school next to it's that the kids can go over there and interact with the years because there's so much benefit just like looking around like is really sad but I think with the villages they can oh and a daycare so like in the morning the preschool kids will go spend forty five minutes or so with the seniors and it's like an extra grandparent yeah the night in the hospital just to now get your meds back in line if you're in the billions you can offer cared so it's their part of the community but they're still safe you know they're not walked inlet they're they're kept in much much better word and it just is not good for anybody while I'm lucky that I live very close to my parents home so I have my independence but like you not the translation but you know the Canadian dollar back to the American dollar because it said on the they're supposed to open in April are picking up the kids in the seniors are benefiting even though they haven't been there so my whole vision and I think my grandmother it's one hundred one and be there you know hopefully we're gonna live that long as well so we want we want to set some sort of pattern up right yes I think with this whole you know this rise in the in the number of people with Alzheimer's and dementia so I got plenty of life left at work on this this is where I think my life is going dementia village you put a school next to it and then you the school age kids might come over and they might get you know somebody will read them maybe somebody that was a teacher or good at math might help them with math even though they're memories I think this is like massive community planning is an citywide let's start a new city over in this corner we're GonNa put it in so maybe put in like a community center next to it or somehow in it where you can have like this week is my support group meeting so the support group meets the the generation one generation call now it's the celebration centers here in Brentwood and they have a school you're in it and I've learned a lot in the last eighteen months the episode that came out this week so everybody will know when we're recording this just stick them over here in the corner and we need to find a way to make it so that when they need twenty four hour care the average are people with something you know like we will wear as talking offline I think we need we need to go to the next stage for the kids and the seniors but even the people in the Middle Right learned when I talked to the Galette runs the adult day program here in town than sense and I think it's really hard to honor those parents and we're all good mm from grandma that I hope they will cherish when they're adults at I known what I know now I probably wouldn't have tried that but I can't trying let's do the crafts all there that's when it became obvious how bad my mom was initially bad I mean it's not like I didn't see them but he was kind of a buffer aren't great do or they might do crafts with them or play game and they just get that interaction that they're not links so the kids my daughter's and adult minus started high school this this past week and my nephews ten so they all have something is all just me talking and it's on how I use knowledge is a coping technique because if I didn't learn the things that I've learned to deal with my mom yeah I've told people my mom is seventy six but we've been dealing with this for twenty years you know some of these people have a long time with this disease so we need to figure out how for Mom and dad because now we gotta go home we gotTa worry about homework and dinner and little five hundred chores so yeah is the people Canadian dollars so when he did the at word is just not coming in converting that works word evades by and she's always creative she used to so she did woodworking means she did a lot of stuff so this was in her wheelhouse and I I kept having knowledge has been your coping mechanism I really think that it you do one or the other you just crumble and I've seen people do well my dad bounce around I had no idea how to coax them into the shower would just be like you know it's if you want actions with people it's been for me I wouldn't wish it on anyone but it's been a really crazy journey in stretching and and have to choose one or the other four and now they're in this horrible state and it's my responsibility and they can't really mend the old bad translated properly in her brain and I wish I had known that then I'd probably wouldn't have done the project and we manage to make it through so that really breaks my heart yeah that's a hard one did an episode on caregiver forgiveness and it was basically like we have a lot of people turned into martyrs and I think it's because in their mind then thinking of a couple of people it's like that and it's just completely overwhelming or use stretching you grow and you find out things that you would have never you make Louis and now the medical in profession is working on ways to simplify medications so there are issues I think there's a lot of improvements off to put aside all of those childhood hurts you know we had to put all that baggage aside does extremely difficult it's my mom I wish she was like X. Why can't be reasonable I wanNA help her I want to be respectful and I want to kill her right and why may or the worst is when I had no relationship with her with I hate this story I had no relationship with my parents and I are Rotarians I said I'm GONNA go see mom we're going to the park to watch kids I hope we don't ever get questioned by the police because we're always see with I was trying to get her to do a really simple basic craft project so that she would have something to give the grandchildren for Christmas they've got photographs of her and the little tile with the heart was with Alcohol Inc Zain the cheap version you sharpie pens alcohol fancy alcohol did you see that in the hospital shower get dressed well that doesn't work with adults and I didn't know that so it's like I've learned a ton and while it's like my mom needs swim when my dad was on in the hospital in December of Twenty Sixteen Eh you know I could be there in five minutes so I feel very very thankful when I talked to a lot of my friends that are at such a distance you did and I got a call from the hospital pharmacists and he said I have this thing in my hand and I said Oh the pill Maven's again and we were pretty close to the end of the visit I'm like if you're going to be like that I'm done and I turn around and I walked out I'm not put up this crap yeah and adjust my brain does not function it's worked for two people I two or three hours I can't I can't do it and she's like oh I understand recall her so I text her I said sorry I for I'll call you when I get home I was so exhausted when I got home literally just passed out I'm like I thought like a year ago this is twenty nine hundred ninety two almost two years ago I thought her issue can you tell her man I can't believe how bad her memory is while turns out the reason she had such struggles with this project because what she's seen doesn't get now and it's and she's so advanced I come home on Mondays and it's literally there was one Monday I felt so bad I was coordinating a ride with our bicycle club president is a friend of mine and she texted me and she says the of time to talk and it's now I'm in my meeting we can do if we just if we just don't we're not afraid to say let's just try this crazy thing maybe it'll work if it doesn't we'll just we won't do it again well and you're saying that salaried Colorado's so relaxing the you know it's just the knowledge helps me not to push her into places that she can't go right aller what we were doing why we were doing it and no you can't screw this up is very simple look this is what happens if you make Goo- Gypsy gone and you know 'cause my parents and I have these relationship there are things my mom says and does that it's just like one day she was so rude to me we're we like to go watch the little children cool like where does creepy old lady the kids at the park and family can access it and not have to cut back on work or move in with them or have them moving with you it's just the way we go about it is just a disaster sized mom settled I will call you we're sitting there in the park it was hot windy and in the shade it was all good in about an hour waiters how crap ah club you don't want to join in it that's kind of feel like if there's some way you know like with what you're the guest room 'cause darker in there in and slept for two hours I called her the next day I'm like I am so sorry I should warn you I'm useless Monday nights five years ago yet a massive heart attack in the middle of the night and he was perfectly healthy and road bikes and the a widow and her husband had cancer society's kind of familiar with the routine but it's hard while I lost my husband the physical confrontation there might have been so that one's mobile would be a big issue so with that my dad wasn't mobile but I think he would have taken off you know down the street if he coulda I'm surprised my mom I was concerned about that 'cause I considered a board and care homes relationships in life and that but this this ride with with a dementia is is long and it is a marathon like it's you have to you have no time to train for but you have to pace yourself yeah her daughter took her out and they think is because she was causing issues I never saw issues now kind of the vibe that I got when I found now we go out like I said watch children we've gone to the library and my hometown has a city park has like a splash I go once a week a lot of two is because it's like she doesn't remember I'm there I mean literally I was there one day for two hours I got up her visit a swear there are so many Diane's in my mother's memory residents there's there was three of them now there's just you're the first Dan got very paranoid and really really really bossie like just the worst obnoxious bossy and and it was easier even with two ladies with Alzheimer's you know and they repeat themselves but they would talk to each other and it would kind of give me a little bit of a break but there I can but I thought you know I when she moved into the memory care she had her dog until they renovated last summer and that's when they said twenty minutes zero I know you have to Pat Yourself on the back and give yourself tree in size started shortening them but from my house got bombed fifteen miles away by back this way back and forth all the time and you know she'll tell me why I don't know where we're going zone the water shoots up out of the ground little play area for the kids and that's great because it's free but it's just like literally out that she'd moved out 'cause like Lindley one week she's there in the next week she's gone I'm like what the hell my mom's friend although my mom had been separating from her quite a bit which was good because to the nurse practitioner that saw her last week was a Diana Mike could you guys some new names please give very confusing but we used to sit and talk I'm one of those types that constantly moved around and whenever she saw was hers and the to those ladies I'm surprised that there was an act this show up and she's literally got a lap full of clothes like a whole laundry basket of clean clothes that she's just hanging onto and I said Oh my goodness ten twelve fifteen minutes away and I had a pass to schools to get there so you got a time that one right and it's not far and if I need to go it must be really far away so good thing I end of the day you can't regret doing the right thing now and it's easier the dog doesn't remember she's outside a lot of time like the dog was always a struggle with my sister and I because as room came back and she was just well how do you come from and I was like are you kidding me I'll and get any credit for any hundred uh there are two in my neighborhood and I thought let me grandkids if my bike down walk dogs I thought this would be great you could pop in for half an hour she's sweater you do with all your laundry would you like to cook that away for you oh my Gosh my head off Mike Line they did have a gal that was should have waited fifteen pounds and she weighed twenty seven all I swear I kept waiting for the data show up and just telling me I'm sorry but missed exploded sorry restricted food and new scoop and I said Okay dmed tax will feed the dog half a cup of food in morning Africa foot at night and that's it gene anymore she runs around she could not believe this dog and haul around this huge but she you know dogs need doc and we did everything the executive director in the MED techs and the staff we all had this program K. I bought new dishes need structure and she didn't have any structure and she just choose starting to get really nutsy here's one day with my mom and I had been out we got back I let the dog out the literally ran circles around the courtyard looking for my mom I told the dog to do her business the dog looks at me like yourself we re home the dog I'm already struggling with that with my mom or your mom doesn't have memory loss so he doesn't but she has a dog a new dog 'cause I learned in my fine it's one hundred ten degrees out here I'm not standing out here with this dumb dog gotta go gotta go open the door she walks in ps right on a dog and they were kind of like that's the dog no that's not okay so my sister and I had been struggling with at what point do we the structure so I you know I bring my laptop there and I go a day in the dog's fine if if it has structure like you said yeah but I think eh her dog passed away got our new dog in the caregivers aren't cool with it because there's training that has to be done it's not a puppy but there has really great for people with memory problems I bring my youngest my youngest golden is a rescue Three seconds from the door over the fence he will come back when he is tired or hot wheat cuddly you open the sliding glass door to the backyard our backyard fences three feet high and it opens up to like six hundred acres of open space breakfast and this was like eleven hours later figured sure he's going to want to eat I like looking at him through binoculars ill over at me now and a half hours with no food he hadn't had food for like fourteen hours install though I take him with me occasionally the ladies you can bang on the football like one night he's escaped at dinnertime and I'm out there banging on the Super Bowl Hey you wanna come get some dinner again all day he's also gem nine so my policies Jabeen is about to lay one out here he is the sign of the twins and super loving bright and she can't do the little activities that they have so you know it's like you either sit there I have conversational skills anymore because she uses the wrong words you'll start telling you something and it's like have no idea what if are you talking John I or did you want to know about Laura Paul just looks at me like watch children yeah good idea to bring the dog yeah it just you gotTa have something for them to interact with and my mom can't she doesn't he says so what have you been up to lately I know is this holiday. She says she'll ask me how's your family Mike other fine we're fine Ms Yasmeen how many children do you have one I know my dad when I knew that he was pretty. We're talking about this disgusted your absolute flaming idiot expansion and so sometimes I'll just a lot of times like gone he asked if I was his wife and I said no I think I sent that over to you I look a lot lighter though Oh okay we'll I I am I I don't think he likes it here I haven't taken the girl dog that might be coming up when the weather's to the point where I can't go out and I'm married that girl and he pointed to the TV and she was really cute you know how'd you meet her she plays tennis and I just threw her the best ball in a year this week I love how you remember the dog and the dog's name not who I am these things that you have to forgive Slyke Mike Credit Union something like that and I've been telling my mom for days weeks mom don't don't believe anything dead says don't take it personally yeah my mom doesn't remember that Dad has gone which is very interesting and she's learned the dog has been re homed either and that's been hill great comfort dogs they are my oldest does not like going there the first the only time I took him there he laid under the chair he had his back to me aw now is that even remotely true now is fantasy yeah I need weird my mom is I don't get the common ones but it's crazy yeah now it's just like crazy ride yeah the mom she just you can see through their eyes I don't know it can make sense of it and that's a really common accusation which have not gotten I don't get the common ones I get the weird it was Kinda hurt I would like negative petty her that's like it's really it's because they're confused they don't know where the money went love ask people ever dealt with X. and right now I'm not coming up with the situation that I've had that people like I'm not sure how to answer that so you know it it does my dad accuse me of stealing told my mom they'll never forgive kimber and she said for what for stealing all my money word but getting better with the thumbs so you know it's just I'm trying to find ways of making giving her pleasure that doesn't don't know it's something it's beyond that that I think it has nothing to do with anything it's like a combination of a commercial on TV and it's easier to sit and watch children play in the water or play at the park or whatever and just sit comfortably quiet together sometimes I read he's trying to step around all the dark parts on the sidewalk so she looks like she's walking through place with land mines or at her feet humped back land on her face and she won't hold my hand or take my elbow she will not accept any that I note to self I am there's a lot of walkways in their wide and we walked across the surface that's under the play equipment yeah I can relate slightly because I have lazy is so my brain is the input from one at a time the grass or God forbid those stupid blind bumps outside the grocery store I hate those for myself 'cause I always seemed like trip over moment he parks it's a more family friendly simplified waterpark and the water on the pavement to her look treacherous so make me feel like my brain is being killed and it's physically hard she does not is not able because of visual processing is shot off of her body is still moving so she's it's like when you slam on the brakes of the card so she does and she's very she's got a very large curvature this is like just getting settled it's like okay now I need a nap so it's what's Nice about our city park is it's doc it's so when we go to the park I have to find the shady spot very very close to the pavement park understand that I'm not abusing always funny moves and she also walks like three feet behind me Oh it's insane but I love it how you came up with a solution to a problem because of this journey and I was looking for as a supplement to our when she if if there are shadows or we were at the water park which I'd say water park it's one on by the city's so it's not like a waterworld or one of those kind is it Makino it's the brain her name was not process what's being what's the input into is it scrambled up in her it's not like something he's been holding in forever and

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NPR News: 08-13-2019 11AM ET

"Support for this podcast and the following message come from wells fargo. One in six american household spend over half their income on housing. That's why wells fargo so is giving one billion dollars to housing affordability programs through twenty twenty-five learn more at wellsfargo dot com slash impact live from n._p._r. News in washington. I'm korva coleman. The trump administration is postponing some of its new tariffs on chinese imports. N._p._r.'s scott horsely reports the delay the marks a significant retreat in the trade war that has rattled financial markets on both sides of the pacific the u._s. trade representative says tariffs on certain categories of chinese imports including cell phones laptop computers and some toys and clothing will not take effect on september first scheduled but will instead be delayed until december kimber fifteenth. The move seems calculated to avoid taxing popular consumer items during the busy back to school and holiday shopping seasons the stock market rose sharply carplay on news. The tariffs delay president trump initially ordered the tariffs on some three hundred billion dollars worth of chinese imports earlier this month out of frustration with the slow. Oh pace of trade negotiations with beijing the remainder of the tariffs are still set to take effect in a couple of weeks scott horsely n._p._r. News washington the kremlin has commented for for the first time on a nuclear accident that took place in russia's arctic region last week. It said the health and safety of local residents are being fully insured but as n._p._r.'s lucian kim reports from moscow the lack of information continues to fuel speculation about what happened president vladimir putin's spokesman advised journalists in moscow to rely on information formation provided by government agencies get information on an accident that killed at least five people has been sketchy and contradictory russia's meteorological services services at radiation levels in the arctic port of several vince six hundred miles north of moscow briefly rose up to sixteen times thursday then returned to normal levels after the two hours. The russian defense ministry has said there was no radiation leak on monday. President trump tweeted that the u._s. has similar the more advanced missile technology which which experts believe was being tested when the accident occurred putin's spokesman responded russia's missile technology is unique and superior to that of any other country lutheran kim n._p._r. News moscow officials at hong kong's airport have suspended check ins. It's the second day in a row. Outgoing passengers have had their flights disrupted and thousands of pro. Democracy activists are jamming the terminals calling for government reforms. The national weather service has posted excessive heat warnings through several royal southern states national weather service meteorologist bob oravec says heat indices could make it feel above one hundred ten degrees today will probably be the last day of the really high temperatures across parts of the lower mississippi valley and southern plains is a front pushing southward and then tomorrow will be one more holiday across the southeast before cooler temperatures bruce go across that area also excessive heat is also building in the southwest temperatures will rise to one hundred ten degrees or hotter for parts of southern arizona zona and california on wall street. The dow is up more than one and a half percent. The nasdaq is up nearly two percent. This is n._p._r. Phones internet and cable tv have been cut off in kashmir for nine days now. The disputed himalayan territory has been under security lockdown after india decided to revoke its constitutional autonomy. Sushmita paddock has more from mumbai. Thousands of indian troops have been deployed to kashmir the state capital. Shrager anger has become a city of blockades and checkpoints. The government has been sharing pictures and videos of people. They're preparing to celebrate india's independence day this thursday. Most kashmiris don't want to be a part of india. The territory is split between india and pakistan. There's a strong separatist movement in indian-administered kashmir which is the only muslim-majority state in the country because meetings were granted special rights when they're hindu king decided to join india after independence from britain but the government is now taking those away for n._p._r. News i'm social media buttock in mumbai environmental groups and democratic lawmakers say they will challenge the trump administration's nations effort to change the endangered species act. The administration says the changes are intended to improve efficiency opponents warn as many as one million species are.

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Your Weather Forecast Update: Warmer Climate Will Be The New 'Normal'

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Your Weather Forecast Update: Warmer Climate Will Be The New 'Normal'

"There is a change coming to your local weather forecast next month. The data that it's based on will be updated that will make the warmer climate literally. The new normal here's npr's jennifer. Ludden weather forecasters work off a thirty year average and it gets updated every decade right now. What's normal for temperature and precipitation is based on nineteen eighty one to two thousand ten. That's why we've all gotten used to this. Well temperatures for your friday. We'll be running about ten degrees than normal seven degrees above average yesterday. Look into tomorrow above. Normal temperatures will the past decade. Was one of the hottest on record mike. Pilecki of the national oceanic and atmospheric administration says that will show up in the new averages called climate normals. They'll drop the eighties and wrap in the twenty tens. It was a very substantial upward trend in temperatures especially along the west coast of south and along the east coast. He says there were exceptions. Oh you could go to fargo north dakota. That would be a place where it's actually cooled a little bit if that's your interest especially in the springtime but the fastest warming places. We'll see a real bump up in their averages. Amber sellin is chief. Meteorologist at abc fifteen phoenix. Where she says last summer was incredibly hot. We set a record of fifty three days at one hundred. Ten degrees or hotter. The previous record was thirty three days so it wasn't even close what's more she says. In the entire past decade phoenix did not said a single record for low temperature. Now oddly after the update in may some really hot days or nights could become officially cooler than the new normal sullivan's plans to take more time to explain all this. We're going to have to remind people especially this year. Hey if we're at one fifteen. That is five degrees above the average but remember this average has changed. This average is not what it used to be. That's important says bernadette. Woods plachy chief meteorologist with the nonprofit climate central. She says research shows people are really good simply resetting what feels normal and she sees danger in that were not aware of how much warming is happening on a regular basis. It's that slow grind. That's eating away at the changing normal. That doesn't give you the opportunity sometimes to sit back and look at what it used to be. Marshall shepherd heads atmospheric sciences at the university of georgia. He wonders if even using the term normal might be confusing and he agrees that for most the new weather. Averages will not impress when degree warming doesn't sound like a lot to most people. In fact many people say oh great. I can have cookouts in december more often but that steady warming has a big impact which he says meteorologist can help people understand. It helps fuel increasingly extreme weather. Wildfires floods hurricanes shepherd says other impacts are more subtle things like rising food prices declining water supply. the spread of vector borne. Disease is about things happening right. Now that are affecting their kitchen table issues their pocketbook their livelihoods and their health industries feel the impact to and for them. The official thirty year weather average is losing its relevance now is my policy says businesses want more recent data that reflects the risks. They face now. Energy companies to predict extreme heat and cold or take construction. They like to know. How many days does it rain during a certain period of time so they have a certain number of rain days that they build into their plans so for the first time this year. No noah will also put out fifteen year averages to help keep pace with a climate normal that just keeps changing jennifer ludden. Npr news washington.

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Why There Is A Change Coming To Your Local Weather Forecast

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Why There Is A Change Coming To Your Local Weather Forecast

"There is a change coming to your local weather forecast next month. The data that it's based on will be updated that will make the warmer climate literally. The new normal here's npr's jennifer. Ludden weather forecasters work off a thirty year average and it gets updated every decade right now. What's normal for temperature and precipitation is based on nineteen eighty one to two thousand ten. That's why we've all gotten used to this. Well temperatures for your friday. We'll be running about ten degrees than normal seven degrees above average yesterday. Look into tomorrow above. Normal temperatures will the past decade. Was one of the hottest on record mike. Pilecki of the national oceanic and atmospheric administration says that will show up in the new averages called climate normals. They'll drop the eighties and wrap in the twenty tens. It was a very substantial upward trend in temperatures especially along the west coast of south and along the east coast. He says there were exceptions. Oh you can go to fargo north dakota. That would be a place where it's actually cooled a little bit if that's your interest especially in the springtime but the fastest warming places. We'll see a real bump up in their averages. Amber sellin is chief. Meteorologist at abc fifteen phoenix. Where she says last summer was incredibly hot. We set a record of fifty three days at one hundred. Ten degrees or hotter. The previous record was thirty three days so it wasn't even close what's more she says. In the entire past decade phoenix did not said a single record for low temperature now oddly after the update in may some really hot days or nights could become officially cooler than the new normal plans to take more time to explain all this. We're going to have to remind people especially this year. Hey if we're at one fifteen. That is five degrees above the average but remember this average has changed. This average is not what it used to be. That's important says bernadette. Woods plachy chief meteorologist with the nonprofit climate central. She says research shows people are really good simply resetting what feels normal and she sees danger in that were not aware of how much warming is happening on a regular basis. It's that slow grind. That's eating away at the changing normal. That doesn't give you the opportunity sometimes to sit back and look at what it used to be. Marshall shepherd heads atmospheric sciences at the university of georgia. He wonders if even using the term normal might be confusing and he agrees that for most the new weather. Averages will not impress when degree warming doesn't sound like a lot to most people. In fact many people say oh great. I can have cookouts in december more often but that steady warming has a big impact which he says meteorologist can help people understand. It helps fuel increasingly extreme weather. Wildfires floods hurricanes shepherd says other impacts are more subtle things like rising food prices declining water supply. the spread of vector borne. Disease is about things happening right. Now that are affecting their kitchen table issues their pocketbook their livelihoods and their health industries feel the impact to and for them. The official thirty year weather average is losing its relevance now is my policy says businesses want more recent data that reflects the risks. They face now. Energy companies to predict extreme heat and cold or take construction. They like to know. How many days does it rain during a certain period of time so they have a certain number of rain days that they build into their plans so for the first time this year. No noah will also put out fifteen year averages to help keep pace with a climate normal that just keeps changing jennifer ludden. Npr news washington.

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NPR News: 06-18-2021 3PM ET

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NPR News: 06-18-2021 3PM ET

"Live from npr news. I'm barbara klein. Leaders of the. us catholic. Church have voted to move forward with a process that could call into question. The eligibility of politicians like president biden to receive communion. Npr serra mccamman reports. The issue has resurfaced following. Biden's the election last year after a contentious debate members of the us conference of catholic. Bishops voted one hundred. Sixty eight to fifty five in favor of drafting a formal statement on the meaning of the eucharist in the life of the church. That document could include guidance on providing communion to catholics who differ with the church on teachings about abortion especially politicians like president biden. Biden is the nation's second catholic president and frequently attends mass. The vatican has warned. Us catholic bishops use communion as a political weapon the bishops will have a chance to vote on the proposed statement at another meeting in the future. Possibly when they meet in person in november sarah mackinnon. Npr news many parts of the west remain under excessive heat warnings. Npr's windsor. johnston reports consumers in california are being urged to conserve electricity to ward off blackouts residents in california were asked to voluntarily turn up their thermostats and to avoid using major appliances. After the state's electricity grid warned of potential shortages. This week national weather service meteorologist. Bob oravec says it will be several days before many parts of the southwest. We'll get some relief from the heat. 'cause we get towards the end of the weekend in the beginning of next week his some reprieve for the south west is still gonna be hot temperatures well above one hundred degrees as we go into the beginning of next week but at least they'll be a little cooler temperatures a little closer to what is average for this time of year california on august endured two consecutive nights a rolling blackouts as temperature's surpassed one hundred ten degrees windsor johnston npr news los angeles. President biden is expected to announce today that three hundred million covid. Nineteen shots have been administered since he took office january twentieth. But he's still short of his goal of vaccinating seventy percent of americans at least partially by july fourth. Vice-president harris is on the road promoting vaccinations in the southeast where rates lag speaking in atlanta. Today harris says for those who work more employers are allowing paid time off to get vaccinated and we want to encourage and challenge more employers to do the same employers. Who are doing that here. In the state of georgia are delta and bank of america and marya harris says forty two percent of jordan georgians have received at least one shot less than an hour before the close on wall street. The dow is down. Four hundred seventy points. This is npr. The palestinian authority has cancelled a deal to receive soon to expire covid nineteen vaccines from israel. The palestinian authority's health minister says an initial israeli shipment had an expiration date. Sooner than had been agreed russia's capital moscow is reporting its highest daily number of new corona virus cases. As the country's mass vaccination programme falters. It aims to vaccinate sixty percent of the population but npr's lucian kim reports only about twelve percent of russians are vaccinated so far moscow's mayor is blaming most new infections in the city on the delta variant of the corona virus which was first detected in india overnight. Moscow had more than half of new infections. Nationwide and authorities are responding by keeping playgrounds and food courts closed and shutting down. The city's nightlife after eleven pm vaccine. Skepticism is high among russians despite the widespread availability of domestic vaccines. The russian capital is trying to incentivize immunizations by raffling off cars and opening restaurants only for the vaccinated city hospitals are even requiring covid nineteen vaccination for most planned operations lucian kim. Npr news moscow. Canada is extending corona virus border restrictions on non essential travel from the us until july twenty. First they've been in place. Since march of last year some twenty percent of canadians have been vaccinated. I'm barbara klein. Npr news npr is doing its annual survey to better understand. How listeners like you. Spend time with podcasts. Please help us out. By completing short anonymous survey at npr dot org slash podcast survey. All one word. We would really appreciate your help to support. Npr podcasts that's npr dot org slash podcast survey. All one word thanks.

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NPR News: 07-14-2020 6AM ET

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04:39 min | 1 year ago

NPR News: 07-14-2020 6AM ET

"Live from NPR news I'm Korva Coleman California Governor Gavin newsom is re closing much of his State as the pandemic continues to spread. More people are being hospitalized with covid nineteen NPR's Nathan Rock has details. Restaurants bars and entertainment venues like movie. Theaters and museums will no longer be able to let people inside under the new orders, gyms, churches, lawns, and other businesses will face similar closures throughout much of the state as confirmed corona virus, cases, hospitalizations, and ICU patient loads continued to increase in the state as a have in much of the country and making the announcement California Governor Gavin. newsom compared the closures to hitting a dimmer switch, not on open economy. Economy or off shutdown, but a dimmer switch as those trend lines become points of concern, the order is meant to limit the viruses spread, but it should be clear. newsome says that cove nineteen is not going away anytime soon. Nathan Rot NPR news. Former Attorney General Jeff. Sessions is fighting for his former Senate seat. In Alabama today, he's in a Republican runoff election as NPR's Debbie Elliott reports GOP contest was postponed for March because of the pandemic. Jeff sessions is seeking the Senate seat. He held for twenty years before leaving to join the trump administration, but now president trump is backing sessions opponent former Auburn football coach Tommy Tub reveal a political newcomer sessions has struggled to overcome being ousted as attorney general after he recused himself from Special Prosecutor Robert Muller's Russia investigation and has endured repeated insults from the president, the winner of the. The GOP. Runoff will take on Alabama senator. Doug Jones considered the most vulnerable Democrat in the Senate Debbie Elliott NPR news voters are holding a runoff election today in Texas, too. That's where Democrats are choosing a candidate to face incumbent Republican Senator John, Cornyn this fall in Maine. It's a primary election, but Democrats will also select a candidate to take on incumbent Senator Susan. Collins in November. The trump administration has released details of the president's. Commuting the sentence of his ally, Roger Stone, stone avoids a forty month prison term two years of probation and a twenty thousand dollar. Fine Stone says the president was right to commute his sentence. I'm sixty seven years old. I've had a lifelong problem. Respiratory problems I was facing. What I really believed was a near death sentence. He spoke to Fox News in an OP. Ed, for the Washington Post this past weekend. Former special counsel Robert Muller whose team brought the case wrote that quote stone was prosecuted and convicted because he committed federal crimes. He remains a convicted felon and rightly so. This is NPR. The National Weather Service has dangerous persists in the south especially in Texas, humidity will make it feel very oppressive today from eastern Texas to the central Gulf region, heat indices could easily soar to one hundred ten degrees or hotter. A federal judge is permanently blocked Georgia. Law that would have banned. Most abortions is early six into a pregnancy. The judge says the law is unconstitutional from member station W. A. B. E. in Atlanta Sam Whitehead reports in his ruling. Judge Steve Jones says Georges, so called heartbeat bill directly conflicts with previous US Supreme Court decisions in cases such as Roe versus Wade that provide women access to abortions, the measure, which was temporarily put on hold last year, but expand the definition of a natural person to include unborn children. It would also ban most abortions as soon as cardiac activity can be detected in. In the womb that can be as early as six weeks into a pregnancy abortion rights advocates note that's before. Many women even know they're pregnant. A spokesman for Governor Brian Kemp who supported the law says his office plans to appeal the ruling for NPR news I'm Sam Whitehead in Atlanta. The International Criminal Court has opened the trial against an alleged insurgent from Mali. The suspect is accused of crimes such as rape torture and sexual slavery. He was allegedly in charge of running an Islamist regime in part of Mali seized by Isis linked militants. They were forced from power by a French led military operation. I'm KORVA COLEMAN NPR news.

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Unprecedented Heat Wave Builds in the Northwest U.S. as Temperature Records Fall

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05:35 min | Last month

Unprecedented Heat Wave Builds in the Northwest U.S. as Temperature Records Fall

"Brought to you by orkan pest control. Don't let bugs ruin the moment organ. Home is where the bugs aren't unprecedented heatwave builds in the northwest. Us as temperature records fall by the associated press portland oregon intense prolonged record-breaking unprecedented abnormal dangerous. That's how the national weather service described the historic heat wave hitting the pacific northwest pushing daytime temperatures into the triple. Digits disrupting olympic qualifying events. And breaking all time. High temperature records in places unaccustomed to such extreme heat portland. Oregon reached one hundred. Twelve degrees fahrenheit or forty four point four degrees celsius sunday breaking the all time temperature record of one hundred eight degrees which was set just a day earlier and eugene oregon the us track and field. Trials were halted sunday afternoon and fans were asked to evacuate the stadium. Due to extreme heat. The national service said it had one hundred ten degrees an eugene breaking the all time record of one hundred eight degrees oregon's capital city. Salem also recorded the highest temperature in its history on sunday one hundred twelve degrees breaking the old mark by four degrees. The temperature hit one hundred four degrees in seattle. The national weather service said that was an all time record for the city better known for rain than heat and was the first time. The area recorded two consecutive triple digit days. Since records began being kept in eighteen. Ninety four records were being broken across the region and the sizzling temperatures were expected to get even hotter monday before beginning to cool tuesday. There were also some power outages portland. General electric said about three thousand customers were without electricity and the greater portland area sunday afternoon. Puget sound energy reported thirty four hundred customers down in the greater seattle area. The heat wave stretched into british columbia with temperatures in lytton a village in the canadian province reaching one hundred fifteen decrease sunday afternoon marking a new all-time high recorded in canada. A heat warning is in effect for most of western canada and the country's weather agency says numerous daily temperature records have been shattered across british columbia. Which is directly north of washington state. That got so hot and seattle sunday. The city parks department closed a community pooled in the southern portion of the city because of unsafe dangerous pool deck temperatures king county closed several covid nineteen testing sites because of the heat seattle opened additional public library branches sunday and will again monday to provide additional cooling centers. They seattle times reported. Seattle's light rail. Trains may have to operate at reduced speeds because of excessive heat on the tracks causing delays. That could continue into the workweek. Sound transit said sunday. The wave also moved into idaho where temperatures above one hundred degrees. Our forecast in boise for at least seven days starting monday ontario. A city near the idaho border could see at least a week of triple digit. Temperatures including a high of one hundred nine degrees. Wednesday forecasters sad cities were reminding residents where pools splash pads and cooling centers were available and urging people to stay hydrated check on their neighbors and avoid strenuous activities. Still about three thousand athletes participated in an ironman triathlon and coeur d'alene is on sunday. The race start was moved up to five. Am the event included a two point four mile swim one hundred twelve mile bike ride and twenty six point. two mile. Marathon run race organizers said they had sixty two thousand pounds of ice at hydration stations misting stations and chill towels to hand out the athletes k. H. q. Tv reported the coeur. D'alene fire department brought in extra firefighters and paramedics. Because they usually see extra dehydration calls during the event rather than a crew of seventeen firefighters. They had a crew of sixty on sunday k. r. emt reported ironman medical ten coordinators stand foster said five hundred twenty five people were in the medical tents during the twenty fifteen iron man when temperatures also rose into the one hundred. Five people went to the hospital. He told e. mtv the biggest thing that we tell people is number one. Don't try to set a record on your race. Go-slow enjoy your day. It's gonna be hot. He said and then don't just drink water. The national weather service in coeur d'alene said this week's weather will likely be one of the most extreme and prolonged heat waves in the recorded history of the inland northwest. The scorching weather was caused by an extended heat dome parked over the pacific northwest christie. 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Its More Than Just Rain and Snow. Climate Change Will Hit Air Travel in Surprising Ways

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05:10 min | Last month

Its More Than Just Rain and Snow. Climate Change Will Hit Air Travel in Surprising Ways

"Brought to you by pest control. don't let bugs ruined the moment organ. home is where the bugs aren't. it's more than just rain and snow. Climate change will hit air travel in surprising ways by justin moreland for those watching. Us air travel spike as the covid. Nineteen pandemic fades american airlines recent announcement that it would trim. Its flight schedule may have come as a bit of a surprise. More and more people have been flying in recent months and in response airlines have added flights to meet that demand. Not taken them away. American cited several operational reasons for the adjustment including labor shortages at vendors that resulted from quickly ramping up from pandemic level staffing levels. Bud unsurprisingly the one. I want to focus on here is unprecedented weather in an email on american spokesperson told me recent bad weather at the airlines hubs in miami. Chicago and detroit had disrupted operations. The company is also monitoring extreme heat and phoenix and thunderstorms in dallas and charlotte. The spokesperson said. I won't make the case that this recent spat of bad weather is caused by climate. Change but the cancellations across americans schedule provide a good opportunity to look at how the effects of climate change might make air travel more challenging both in terms of industry economics and the travel experience in the coming decades much attention has been paid to airline emissions but surprisingly the need for the industry to adapt their operations to the challenges of extreme weather has received relatively little consideration. Still there's much to think about a twenty sixteen article in the journal. Carbon and climate law review offers a high level overview increased precipitation will lead to more frequent delays extreme heat will damage runways and storm surge could damage infrastructure at a quarter of us airports even under a moderate sea level rise scenario and. That's really just a snapshot. The article concludes that every sector of the air transport industry will be affected. Any one of those factors could make for a story on. Its own. But i want to home in on one area. That's probably less obvious. Extreme heat flying is one of those experiences where you hardly think about the temperature outside you. Sit in an air-conditioned. Airport board often freezing plane and exit into another air conditioned terminal. It can be a hundred degrees fahrenheit outside at your origin and one hundred ten degrees at your destination without you ever taking off your sweater behind the scenes however your airline is watching that temperature closely. Warm weather makes the air less dense requiring planes to move faster to get off the ground on extremely hot days airlines often restricted flights weight by cutting the number of passengers or restricting. The plane's cargo load on rare occasions. Extreme heat can lead airlines to cancel flights altogether and the summer of two thousand seventeen american airlines made news. For cancelling flights and out of phoenix. Because temperatures were too high for some planes to operate at all even if planes are operating extreme heat creates problems on the ground to in may of airlines started operating a cart on the tarmac in phoenix to deliver water gatorade and popsicles to help keep employees from overheating. According to a report from fox ten phoenix and many parts of the globe particularly in parts of the middle east outdoor air temperatures are already approaching a level where staying outside for long periods of time can be unsafe right now. Heat related problems. Happen rarely enough that even a frequent flyer may not notice on as temperatures rise. That will almost certainly change a twenty seventeen study in the journal. Climatic change found that up to thirty percent of flights departing at the hottest part of the day may face weight restrictions in the coming decades. It seems safe to bet that we'll see many more cancellations to climate change related disruptions to flight. Schedules are the ultimate example of a first world problem and this obviously isn't the most pressing climate concern. But i think it's a useful example of how climate change will seep into areas. We may not expect at a glance and without a proactive attempt to address it. Make life just a little worse. It's a good night to stay in. Because it's the season finale of mr right that no one saw coming. I didn't mean for any of this to spend the night with termites will follow his heart or succumb to a swarm of termites. Curl up on the couch and find out tonight. When all the molten termite larvae will finally be revealed. Don't let termites ruined the moment organ homes where the bugs aren't.

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NPR News: 08-14-2019 8AM ET

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"This message comes from n._p._r. Sponsor xfinity some things are slow like a snail races. Other things are fast like xfinity x. by get get fast speeds even when everyone is online working to make wifi simple easy awesome more at xfinity dot com restrictions apply live from n._p._r. News in washington. I'm korva coleman. A friend of the gunman who killed nine people in dayton ohio over a week ago is expected to appear in federal court today day from member station w. y. S. o. april leslie reports. He allegedly purchased some gun accessories for the shooter. Twenty four year old ethan collie is charged with illegally the owning firearms and lying about his drug use on federal form in order to acquire them f._b._i. Officials also alleged cali helped dayton gunmen connor bets purchase is body armor and weapons parts later used in the attack according to the affidavit collie store the items at his apartment u._s. Attorney benjamin glassman collie was involved because bats bats wanted to hide the purchase of his <hes> magazine body armor and apart from his parents. Glassman says cawley is not accused to planning the august fourth shooting collies attorney has said collie was shock to learn. His friend was responsible for the attack for n._p._r. News i'm april leslie to california. Counties have sued the trump administration over a new rule penalizing low income immigrants who were seeking permanent residency in the u._s. For member station k. q. e. d. farida korea jim bola romero has more under the new rule government officials may deny green cards to authorized non-citizens who use federal benefits such as food stamps housing assistance and medicaid. The administration says this will save taxpayer dollars. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is designed signed to <hes> intimidate immigrant communities san francisco city attorney dennis herrera argues in the lawsuit that as fearful immigrants drop up federal assistance local governments will have to pick up the tab millions and millions of dollars that would <hes> be the responsibility of local taxpayers. There's california governor. Gavin newsom says the state is also planning to sue for n._p._r. News and fatty the devil romero a new law goes into effect today in new york state it. Lets people who say they were molested as children sue their alleged abusers from member station w._n._y._c. maria silvers reports the people have a one year window to file civil lawsuits. The law gives survivors more time to file civil and criminal cases going forward and opens the look back window. Oh for old cases most survivors in new york used to be cut off after they turned twenty three marci. Hamilton is the director of the group child u._s._a. And a professor at the university of pennsylvania she says the old law didn't serve victims. The victim would get their courage up. They go to talk to a lawyer and they would will be told. Oh you're too late. You're not just too late. You're too late by twenty years. Critics of the look back window say the cases may be based on faulty evidence or faded memories but survivors say it's a chance to finally have their day in court. Maria silvers reporting. You're listening to n._p._r. News from washington most airline flights have resumed in and out of hong kong today. Thousands of protesters jammed the facilities terminals this week causing outbound flights to be suspended ended for two days hong kong riot police scuffled with some protesters on tuesday and the facility was cleared teenage climate change activists gratitude berg sets sail today aboard zero emissions racing yacht from the united kingdom to new york. She'll attend a united nations summit as n._p._r.'s frank langfitt reports. It's for london tinbergen stopped flying because of the carbon that jets emit tune bird sixteen year old from sweden spent about two weeks sailing from the english port of plymouth emma th to new york aboard a sixty foot yacht which relies on the sun and wind electricity. She'll be accompanied by her father but not traveling in style. Yacht has no fridge or shower. Our tune berg will eat freeze dried vegan meals heated on a stove and use a plastic bucket for a toilet to school strikes inspired kids around the world to protest. Oh test for political action on climate change. She hopes her voyage sends a message about the importance of addressing the problem until this week tune berg had never sailed frank frank langfitt n._p._r. 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NPR News: 01-31-2020 10AM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Korva Coleman the Senate impeachment trial of President Trump continues today. Democrats want to call witnesses and needs some Republicans CNN's to vote in favor of this Republican Senator Susan Collins and Mitt Romney say they'll back this but Republican Senator Lamar Alexander says he won't vote for witnesses witnesses and that may Dash Democrats chances. NPR's matthew shorts reports it appears that the Republican majority likely has the votes needed to reject checked witness testimony during Thursday's Cuna with lawmakers house impeachment manager. Adam Schiff suggested why senators might not want to hear from witnesses like former national security adviser John Bolton we know why they don't want John Bolton to testify. It's not because we don't really know what happened here. They just don't want the American people to hear it an all of its ugly graphic detail. The Senate will convene today to debate whether to consider more evidence. A final final vote on the articles of impeachment could come as early as this evening Matthew Schwartz. NPR News Washington Secretary of State. Mike pompeo is in Kiev reiterating reiterating support for Ukraine as NPR's Lucian Kim reports from Kiev Pompeo's official visit comes just as president. Trump's impeachment trial reaches its climax climax after talks with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Orlansky Secretary Pompeo told reporters the US under president. Trump is what he called Ukraine's fiercest defender Celeski said the impeachment process has not damaged relations with the US but many Ukrainians are afraid. Their country will become collateral damage in the impeachment fight and lose the bilateral support Ukraine has received since independence from the Soviet Union. NPR's Lucian Kim reporting wildfires in populated areas of eastern Australia flared. Up again at least thirty three people have been killed. A season and some estimates say as many as one billion animals have died. NPR's Rebecca Hersher reports blazes burning out of control near the capital. Canberra hot and windy weather is fanning flames and making it difficult to control fires burning around populated areas a forested area. In Australia's capital region is currently burning out of control prompting authorities to close roads and issue emergency warning to residents of the suburbs around Canberra. Sara the weather around the capital is expected to remain hot and dry over the weekend. Further to the south fire prone areas experience highs above one hundred ten degrees Greece Fahrenheit on Friday but rain going into the weekend there has helped reduce the immediate risk of fires. This has been a particularly damaging bushfire season in Australia rilya going back to September Rebecca Hersher. NPR News King Lake Australia on Wall Street. The Dow Jones Industrial Average is down two hundred seventy six points joins at twenty eight thousand five hundred eighty three. The Nasdaq is down nearly thirty seven points. You're listening to NPR. The House has approved to measures. That would limit the president's ability to use military force without first getting congressional approval. One of the measures says Congress would have to approve approve funding for any use of military force against Iran. The other would repeal the two thousand and two authorization for the use of military force. Democrats say this. This has been misused by presidents to carry out other unrelated military actions the EPA is renewing its approval of the chemical glysophate a popular weed killer. NPR's Dan Charles reports. Some studies have linked to cancer. Scientists at the World Health Organization announced five years ago. The glyphosate probably probably could cause cancer and it provoked uproar also lawsuits in several court cases. Jurors have ordered the company that invented glyphosate Monsanto now Bayer to pay millions of dollars to people who used it and now are suffering from cancer. Thousands of other cases are pending but other scientific groups and regulatory agencies in the European the Union and Canada also have looked at the evidence and they say glyphosate safe the APA has now decided to keep it on the market some environmental advocates condemned the decision saying the EPA is putting the industry's interests ahead of the public's Dan Charles NPR news. The Los Angeles Lakers will play their first game tonight. Since the death of Basketball Oscar ball icon Kobe Bryant. Last Sunday the Lakers will pay tribute to Bryant this evening. Although details of the event have not been released. The Lakers will play the Los Angeles Clippers. The game had been scheduled for last Tuesday but it was postponed. I'm Korva Coleman N._P._R.. News from Washington.

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NPR News: 06-27-2021 11PM ET

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"This message comes from npr sponsor. Virgo your family. Reunion is more important than ever. That's why virgo has whole vacation homes for the whole family. And just the family no shared room or spaces. Download the virgo app. The time for getting back together is now live from npr news. I'm nora raum. The remains of another four people were found today in the rubble of collapsed condo building and serve side florida that brings the death toll to nine officials. Say they still can't account for one hundred fifty. Two people surf side vice mayor. Tina paul says she still hoping more survivors will be found. They have to believe in miracles at this point and until until we found everybody as best we can. I'm not giving up miracles happen. I have to believe in that. Have faith the twelve story building partially collapsed. Early thursday morning officials say it may take weeks to know why the us has struck targets in both syria and iraq used by iranian backed militias which are threatening us forces in the region npr's. Tom bowman has more to go. Spokesman john kirby says the three targets were selected because their facility used by iranian backed militias to mount unmanned aerial vehicle attacks against us personnel in facilities in iraq the us strikes targeted Weapons storage facilities at two locations in syria in one location in iraq both of which lie close to the border between the two countries kirby said as a matter of international law. The united states acted pursuant to its right of self-defense. Strikes were both necessary to address the threat inappropriately. limited in scope said curvy. Tom bowman. Npr news a record breaking heat wave continues in the pacific north west temperatures. Hit one hundred ten degrees in portland oregon today breaking the all time record of one hundred eight just established. Yesterday the national weather service warns it could be even hotter tomorrow the. Us olympic trials for track and field were delay due to the excessive heat. The competitions are underway on the university of oregon campus in eugene for member station k. l. c. c. Karen richards has more since june eighteenth. Hundreds of the nation's top athletes have been sprinting jumping and throwing at hayward field for a chance to represent team. Usa at the tokyo olympics extreme temperatures were in the forecast from the start officials had delayed too long distance running events to the weekend mornings usa track and field suspended the action sunday after his death. Lead to leo brooks fainted before the javelin throw at the time. Temperatures exceeded one hundred. Five degrees brooks had been in fourth place after five of the seven events. The last scheduled event the men's two hundred meter dash is set for ten. Pm pacific time for npr news. I'm karen richards. In eugene oregon. The first hurricane of the eastern pacific season is moving close to the south western coast of mexico. The national hurricane center says hurricane and rica could cause heavy rains flash floods and mudslides before weakening. Tomorrow you're listening to. Npr news in bangladesh are trying to determine what caused an explosion in the capital. Dhaka tonight they say at least seven people were killed and about fifty others were injured. The blast also damaged at least seven nearby buildings and some vehicles public health officials in the us are highlighting the importance of getting tested for hiv on this national hiv testing day. Npr's selena simmons duffin reports hiv is still an epidemic in the us around thirty. Five thousand people are diagnosed with the virus every year. it's not yet clear how the coronavirus pandemic affected the spread of hiv but one positive impact it had was to increase access. Different testing options. Says dr laura cheever who helps run the federal ryan white. hiv aids program. Cheever says this year's theme for national. Hiv testing day is my test. My way emphasizes that there are a lot of different ways and places to get a test for hiv including home tests or other preferred location for self testing. She says there are tests where you send a sample into a lab and rapid self tests. That can be done entirely at home. Selena simmons duffin. Npr news new york city's annual pride parade was held today again this year because pandemic restrictions were still in place. When the parade was planned it was broadcast on television. Well there were some scattered in person events around the city. The pride parades began in one thousand nine hundred seventy to commemorate the one thousand nine hundred sixty nine stonewall uprising which started after police raided a gay bar. I'm nora raum npr news.

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"From NPR news in Washington. I'm Louise Schiavone the mayor and police chief in Rochester New York. Say they will not resign after days of sometimes violent protests. Demonstrators have accused local officials of covering up the death of a black man Daniel prudhoe in police custody NPR's Brian Man has more at a news conference Sunday, Rochester. Mayor. Lovely Warren said she won't bow to protester demands that she and her chief of Police Lebron Single Terry step down. It is clear to me that there is more work to be done and I am committed to doing with necessary. I know that the chief is committed to join with necessary. Warren also defended police use of force against protesters in recent days saying there were credible reports some activists plan to damage or destroy police headquarters, Brian Man. NPR News Rochester new. York. Parts of Arizona. Are. Record breaking heat this Labor Day weekend as Kathy Richie for member station K. J. Z. Z. in Phoenix report they were record breaking temperatures this weekend. If you've ever visited Arizona in the summer, you've probably heard some describe it as a dry heat but this summer has been especially brutal Saturday. Reached a record one, hundred fifteen degrees for the date making it the. Fourteenth. Day. This. Year where Phoenix had a high of one hundred, fifteen degrees or more the record high on Sunday was one hundred eleven set in two thousand, thirteen meanwhile, the Phoenix. Fire Department is rescued several people who were experiencing heat related symptoms while climbing camelback mountain, a popular destination today marks fifty third day of one, hundred, ten degrees or more in Phoenix for NPR news I'm Cathy Richie. In. Sweltering California hundreds of people have been airlifted to safety after a fast moving wildfire trap them in a camping area. NPR's Joel rose reports that firefighters are battling dozens of blazes across the State Fast fast-spreading fire in California's Sierra National Forest trapped hundreds of campers at a popular reservoir near Shaver. Lake northeast of Fresno emergency responders had US military helicopters to evacuate more than two hundred campers in a series of rescues that began Saturday and continued through the night. Brutal. Heat is pushing temperatures into the triple digits across. California bone dry conditions. Hot Weather are fueling more than twenty major fires in the state including fast-spreading fires in the mountains east of Los Angeles and San Diego Joel, rose, NPR, News California's power grid managers. Warn there could be rolling blackouts of customers don't conserve energy extreme heat is driving the highest power use of the year and transmission losses due to wildfires have cut into supplies Eric Schmidt of the California independence operators said up to three million customers could lose power for up to four hours tonight, the creek fire on the Sequoia National Forest and another fire in southern California have knocked out transmission. This is NPR. In Belarus tens of thousands of people marched Sunday in Minsk demanding President Lukashenko step down declaring his reelection fraudulent. Lithuania's foreign minister is urging the e you to take a stronger stand on democratic values. Teri Schultz has the latest Lithuanian Foreign Minister Lena's linkages says the E. US credibility and foreign policy is being undermined by the lack of decisive actions against the flawed August ninth vote and ongoing violence against. Protesters. In Belarus linkages tells the Financial Times newspaper at the E. You must provide concrete help for the pro democracy movement, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia in the sanctions on Belarusian, president, Alexander Lukashenko and twenty nine other officials in August expressing impatience with Brussels. The E U rejects the election results and has warned Minsk those responsible for the fraud and the crackdown will be penalized, but that hasn't happened yet and Lukashenko himself is. UNLIKELY TO BE TARGETED FOR NPR news I'm Teri Schultz in Brussels top seeded Novak Djokovic is out of the US. Open. After accidentally hitting a line judge with a tennis ball that he hid in frustration joke veterans playing Pablo's who radio booster when he was defaulted puszta called a bad luck. I don't think that anyone of us of the blaze do this this kind of invention you know it's just a moment is. He I broke in the fund You know he's the. I think that was by luck richest bidding for an eighteenth Grand Slam title I'm Louise Schiavone, NPR news Washington.

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