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October 16: A man walks into a bar

As It Happens from CBC Radio

50:28 min | 1 year ago

October 16: A man walks into a bar

"Yeah Hey I'm Rosemarie Barton and I love politics you don't possibly mean that elevated mood tonight tweet about politics but I don't want to you welcome to party lines this is the podcast where we're going to try and get you up to speed on what's happening for the federal election a new episode every Thursday the people are really looking after each other and this could happen just in front of them of course is very shocking how did you and your media a disbelief intervention and investigation going on at the House people saw the would be murderer anything because there were so many cars so we were digging into the this is a CBC podcast. Hello I'm Carol off and I'm James Murray this is as it happens the podcast edition visit we have of course ferry a Mitch context in this area we worker a free day and we had different sources that came to us and asked about story in be found some answers one of the really interesting interviews you got one source you have is a young bartender a named Ron Vara whose insights are unreal because Mr Vara is also misconceptions and you Brunswick doctor says the rule after a drought of more than three decades the Canadian men's soccer team beat the US last night and coach John Herdman says fans should expect more success to come bell the flowers may actually be duds and frauds and strangler things have happened to train a robotic hand to solve a Rubik's cube scientists put it through against their will in a farmhouse for the last nine years now the Dutch prosecutor's office has arrested an Austrian man is preparing to charge him with walks into a bar and when he did that man in the Netherlands unveiled the mystery of his family which may have lived or been forced to live in confinement unquote deprivation of liberty and prejudicing the health of others unquote he scheduled to appear in court on Thursday using fights Ma is a reporter with Artie walked into a local bar after downing five beers he told the barkeep something extraordinary that he just escaped a home in which he and his five siblings were being held Russian you'd think that the venerable Dutch Tulip Growers Association would no longer experienced growing pains but it's just discovered some of its famous living drills so grueling that it will undoubtedly choke us all if it ever gets loose as it happens the Wednesday edition radio that suggests we come to grips with the new tonight in a farmhouse for nearly ten years self made man in his books Donald Trump adviser and business professor Peter Navarro sites that particular Harvard trained economist there are still so many questions surrounding a very strange story in a small village in the Netherlands it all started earlier this week with a man who Brenta the first Dutch media outlet to break the story we reached her ins- Volta The Netherlands heroes in how are people in the Netherlands reacting to the rose about out of hospital abortions might force him to close the doors of his federick clinic which offers far more than that procedure kick back and enjoy man working in the local pub there what did he tell you about his encounter well this bartender had a very special story because he was to the one calling the police about this family because a family they lived in this form and older son he it led to your news agency how did you find out that something strange was going on in the village of reinold yes a local broadcast sir this mysterious story a wealth for the people in the neighborhood is a shock because it's an area known for a social control escaped and he made it to the puck anti-stalking about this live in this home situation that she hadn't seen much people over the last apology before it comes to grips with US attorney well he didn't start about his home situation but he was talking about child issue so people were asking questions because he made his change appearance these people were starting to worry in this book manager he called the police together with this guy because he was very afraid of the situation what how did he appear because he came in he ordered five beers I understand what what did he look like he looked a bit neglected I wouldn't say it that way but he dead hello yet that he was wearing very old close what did he tell the the pub- the bartender the pub well first of all for nine years right so this was this fellow who is in the pub he was the two Buck twenty-five years old the oldest of about five or six kids talked about it himself and I Deti wasn't a happy with this home situation and the things to change and that he hadn't been outside were battering if he was okay or if it was maybe drink or having other problems and people are taking care of famine then they start the conversation uh-huh suggestions that they were locked in there what do you know about why they never came out why no never saw these young people that's actually the big question everyone has sadly hadn't been to the hairdresser for white you can say we're in close look like they're from a different era a different time yes that's what I heard because the neighbors they of course they really WanNa know why they have never seen any of the children outside and everyone wants to know what happened at this point at this point day the police -Oday made sure that they're safe now in far away from the press and all the people in the area because they arrested this Joseph B he was the the rental from the from the farm hey was kind of a carpenter so he looked evening and taking care of the house and this man who also had different buildings in a different village and today they have looking there's one man who has been arrested someone named Joseph who's in WHO's an Austrian that's all we've we've got his information who who is that and why is he that's right of of young people that were living in this house yeah but why why did they never go out why were they in this there's been even up in this village as well and the police they entered by force these buildings as you can imagine but very tightly knit community they everybody knows yeah you can imagine a lot of people who want to ask him so many stuff and if it's true that they haven't been assigned for nine years they are a bit scared of the rule of SPA as we everybody there is a family that was living their kids who no one knew were there that would just for nine years how could they not know that at this story was behind his reel shook for the community there's also some speculation that there may have been some some ideas in this family about in touch with him but he wasn't interested in on the countryside as you as you may know is also common to give each other some space and and it's a community is really shocked because normally they have so many people around st they're talking to and in his region last week you Brunswick Dr Adrian known as do Australian and he lived in the Netherlands for awhile now the some details of his background not no because he wasn't talking to anyone it's not confirmed by anyone from the police videos one of the stories we heard but there are so many different stories more questions Edgar was forced to put it up for sale now Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh have both pledged that if elected they're liberal and end EP governments would enter veen to help ensure clinic five four gets funded we reached Dr Adrian Edgar in Fredericton Doctor Edgar it seems that your clinic has the end of the world and that they may have isolated themselves for that reason what have you learned about that yeah that's that's a story we heard from sources as well and so I think he's opened up conversation I think he's encouraged everyone looking in the service what access to abortion do people in New Brunswick have at this point but we've also heard that the MVP will do the same thing Jagmeet Singh made the same commitment to sat right exactly but now mr seeing points out that if Mr this is out of hospital abortions trouble is New Brunswick's provincial government doesn't fund out of hospital abortion so the clinic has been losing money so much money quarter with RTD Trente we reach Vala the Netherlands for more in the store you can go to our website CBC dot ca slash Ai h Kerr had what he described as the worst day of his life Dr Edgar is the medical director of clinic five five four in Fredericton which offers among many other those kind of Christians is still left all right we will leave it there using thank you you're welcome good night using fight sma is in the capital city in Fredericton and we don't have hospitals that provide abortions but if you can access abortion services elsewhere within Iran Zwick why is clinic five over four years but in that time Mr Within K. sets a standard in the country we didn't have before before he was elected we weren't talking about abortion at all button and my hum an election issue in this federal campaign what do you think of that I mean runs have been fighting for ferry clocks yeah no really did care about providing support for your clinic he's had four years to do that is that the case I mean it is the case he's been the prime minister thousands of new brunswickers in a province already is under served and then particularly would impact people who are trying to access the services you provide the clinic are they people have their family doctors in your clinic so we well New Brunswick like other places there are it's a shortage of of family doctors and found the tradition to welcome new neighbors and they tried they have been talking to is Joseph ordered them a bottle of wine or them some flowers and the but the problem is unfunded abortion services that is created this financial crisis for you so how often does it for so critical well clarify four is more than an abortion clinic it's family practice and it serves everyone you know we have a large number of transgender patients macron right now we have about twenty hospitals in Brunswick and there are two cities that provide abortion hospitals to Moncton bathurst is that right that's correct happened you pay for patients abortions out of your own pocket every week the people who can't travel to Moncton are people who are facing other barriers close to home as possible so they can go home after you know feel other family we don't want them having two weeks and weeks on a wait list and then go to the regulation is just a regulation it can be repealed today right just just they can repeal not regulation prohibits the funding and then just sit down community is immeasurable we have a wait list in New Brunswick for tens of thousands of patients who don't have a family doctor and adding three thousand people it was kind of a stranger all the time and of course we are worried about the condition of children are safe are able to function in society guns again washing is specifically targeted by government for for funding through Medicare so the province funds the other services off at your clinic victory would you like to see the next federal government do to help ensure that your doors stay open well the Kendall Health Act protects universal and family clinics so what happens to how many patients somebody of your clients are going to be without without a a clinic with a doctor after you coast in thing than Kyrie's so what questions what are the questions you still have about this what are you trying to find well where did he does be confirmed because he's portion for decades so this is the first time prime minister is committed to fighting with some I think that's quite an achievement but he has pledged to intervene if reelected and do that and that's what we were asking for and one of the components of the Canada Health Act is that many have reasonable access and the federal covered in New Brunswick by by healthcare. I mean exactly that's that's our point is that every single service at the clinic is paid for your Medicare except for abortion often financial barriers so that means they can't pay for a boss they can't take time off from work were they can't afford childcare and so we just want them to run government to show us they understand that and repeal regulations that restrict access and if if the federal government needs to intervene zing and Elizabeth may have all pledged to help protect if elected go for a repeat visits one hundred fifty kilometers away so those are often the people who are coming to us for help and and you know the that happens every every week thank you thank you so much what a what a privilege thinking Adrienne Edgar is the medical director of clinic five five four in Fredericton which Justin Trudeau Jug me government can enforce that by you know if they think that the province isn't doing its duty ride reasonable access by restricting some of the funds available for healthcare until they do point I mean no one hundred percent possible and that's what we're asking our premium to understand tonight as the Canadian men's soccer team made history for the first time in thirty four years Canada beat the US the last time this happened it was nineteen that's the sound of ecstatic fans celebrating in Toronto Fifty Thousand Canadians were willing to speak up for equal access to healthcare runs Lincoln it's possible in this is a very doable let's be I mean this is how we get publicly funded healthcare we just decided that it's worth funding and we've had a petition in New Brunswick I mean this is an issue of timely access now it's an issues just human dignity we won't be able to provide abortions to patients as soon as possible with nearly ten thousand people who signed it asking our government to fund the clinic the Federal Government received one with forty thousand people so I mean and now I mean we've had at least half a dozen doctors family doctors have had to close the parents is in our region in the last year and the toll so I mean I I don't think it's reasonable to ask a pregnant teenager to hitchhike one hundred fifty kilometers to talk to a doctor her options Edgar will leave it there but is children inside been locked up or did they stay inside for you you don't know where are the other kids that were in this family author House and people in the neighborhood only saw he was just some kind of neighbor was appearing every morning going to his work and leaving later are is it possible at this point to prevent the closure of your clinic or is that sort of something you can't avoid eighty five years before the young men who make up the current team were even born John Herdman is the head coach of the team we reached him at the Toronto Airport right before he on something that offense can get excited about and you know last night was one of those nights so only spoke does this it's you know you what's the maritimes who depend on US patients with HIV addictions elderly patients in patients with chronic care needs like diabetes let's the clinic's closure would impact it is a young team and we had some wise heads out there guys that have experienced before so it was just exciting exciting to see you know the older guys for you right so what was it like for you personally what was it like to beat the United States for the first time in thirty four years so doing it as much as the young kids you know the people went into this for a long time to be part of it with some man priceless priceless mm city without anyone that they know to talk to afterwards I think it's that's reasonable you say that you also provide these other services there expect with young man they they were loving it you know we had a great celebration bucket the hotel and man what was it like for those young fellows who just just gave their all last night what was the what was the motion around them the emotion was exactly on the field just watching them celebrate with the funds it was it was brilliant you know they really stood behind with the funds and the drum going and and that's what we wanna feel in this country when you talk about the fans there was that seeing of fans leaving the stadium after the match all singing o Canada at the top of the when you can do lots of other things in life but sport as a way of touching people in connecting people in West and we know we have not not ability to really bring this country Davis is sense of what what did it I mean what what was the balanced between tactics and sheer determination out there last night right we've had just under three thousand patients visit client five hundred four and I'm the family doctor so percentage of those people are just family practice access to healthcare simply asking are to respect that you know healthcare's human rights as a country we believe it shouldn't with an wis that's one of candidates greatest achievement Davies who we spoke with back in the summer of two thousand eighteen and he was just seventeen years old and he was heading to Munich to play he was still in high school and to see him last night it was a pretty spectacular game for him wasn't it yeah yeah it was it was nothing you know our phones or not will do the work of figuring out what would it look like to fund access not just a clinic Fifi but maybe starting with us and then expanding that for another areas of the province what a quality onto the field when we brought quality off you mentioned cavalierly he he scored one of the goals and the other one was Alfonso Taupe charities and they they want us to put us in this mall but said he plus years you know it's been awhile since we we really you know only US expected Canada's to be able to stand type of pressure and that's where the will comes in they they were fully committed alive these are very young men aren't they I mean they were not alive they were not born in one thousand nine hundred eighty five when Canada one this last time a few teams with with John Therapist It was it was emotional it really wasn't more so and then for for for that always be much light will come down the willpower to get the job done but also said look there's no point the final whistle blowing you know we have to take this forward now and I think you know the next step for this country is to get piece and it it's not usually this style to do what they did and you know keep pressing and pressing and defending impressing but they did and when they had and celebrate take care thank you all John Herdman is the coach of the Canadian men's soccer team which beat the US last night time there while they're there they're just out of being kids aren't they well it's a very young team that really is you know we audit in Nineteen twenty one I mean it's nothing left in the tank we were able to bring Cappellini in Hollywood on the field and and that's what's different about this Kinda in the past we haven't been able to bring Dotson engine- players and get a win for Canada's over his greg what to do it against the US's is just a little sweeter can get it wherever you get your podcast from I don't know how we're going to end it out can we literally drop Mike for the first time in thirty four years we reached him at the Toronto Airport and you can find more on that story on the as it happens website. 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Disconnect to Reconnect

Andrew Hackett's Illimitable Living

45:56 min | 1 year ago

Disconnect to Reconnect

"Technology only gets a certified technology does not help us connected to solve ice does not help us become one in a pot with someone else don't forget we still need to get out tonight show he's still need to go for walks with student to have a laugh we need to socialize with people we need to make an effort with that sort of stuff it's too easy to go week to week good I everyone you will art disconnecting if we find ourselves going down that road of being permanently attached to our devices that's a really really good whether that's a smartphone whether that some kind of mobile device a tablet computer whatever it may be sometimes I find myself just wasting tons of act and I find that so refreshing in so many ways and that's the topic I kinda wanted to talk about today ways in which we could possibly star ars in the summertime here in the United States we go places where there aren't any cell phone signals or any kind of Wifi and so we literally have to discount there as well they don't know how to live life without their devices and what I've noticed is when I go camping camping is a huge passion if I'm not careful that the I kind of fall into this way of living and that is being permanently connected to our devices whatever those may be but it's not the same as like a physical relationship and I see this also when we had our foreign exchange student here it's very prevalent amongst teenagers and welcome to a lamentable living as you probably know goes I've got quite an active facebook page with a growing number of full is in a very engaged number truly illimitable. I'm here in Sunny Australia talking with my remarkable co host Patricia Morris as we take you on a journey delving deep into the mystery you're listening to a limited living and he with the Wonderful Patricia Morris Patricia how you doing today I am doing wonderful thank you for asking Andrew It's good to be back the is that the universe and how we live within it join me on a journey towards living a truly limitless life on the illimitable living podcast topic to thank you for raising this has been on my mind for quite a bit not only because my own use but also in helping others as well ending to people getting back to people and it's something very proactive about and three conscious about the NATO because week again and really interested what did you want to talk about today well this is something that I've noticed even in my own life that I I'm Andrew Hackett and I'm here to talk about living a life free from fees restrictive boundaries so that you can not only live limitless life but so they can become time on social media being connected that way thinking that I'm having real relationships of some of these people I've never met and it doesn't mean there is not a relationship that doesn't exist I think the big issue we have in today's society is this disconnection with each other yeah and it's getting worse there's no question the thing is is I have to be very very careful about how early my time to since one it is too easy to spend three or four hours a day on social media response full of as well we try really love you know as well as my instagram of my youtube channel stuff that everybody else but the interest taste normal social mechanisms like talking to someone touching shaking hands someone made him with someone in person with people face to face and in fact you know later in the year early next year I'm GonNa Start launching what I call my personal retreats which for some decades as a commercial negotiator for instance you learn to rape paypal quite intuitively now my preference would be to work one on one about it it's part of this big epidemic is happening the search for many epidemic sites are prevalent in today's world you know we we've so the Americans as a general a find us to be very down to earth and yes very real and very authentically now of course souls can connect anyway anywhere anytime anyhow souls can do that 'cause they omnipresent and joint necessarily will be a retreat in a beautiful luxury place around the world where we'll just get five ten people together and we'll literally spend a week with a digital that often removes a whole range of different things that we intuitively need and desire as part of that communication together hanging out and really getting to know each other a quad intimate level in quantum beautiful wise that we can really connect the cells together the world combined wow that's interesting I wonder what the demographics are as far as that goes why very curious about that so I haven't been sasha good subject as well is forest to be able to reconnect with people we need to disconnect from the things that we think are helping us connect with people to figure it out but the interesting thing is that has happened in the last six weeks so I had in South Africa six weeks ago now Kenai in any way contained by physical mechanisms the problem of God though is and the reason why business grow exponentially and it has helped me connect with people all over the world in fact a lot of you might be surprised by the fact of my following in the US up until about a couple of months ago was growing at three times the right than any flow in heaven Australia for instance wow and a lot of that's due to a number of factors honestly would not have previously thought of as being interested first of all Western Europe Western Europe and even for that matter but western Europe's just going absolutely bananas we don't have finds with us when we'd do that for obvious reasons because we talk and we communicate and we conspire and all these other beautiful stuff but it's all about I really appreciate that in a lot of trials and I appreciate that fifty point zero because some help connect but social media was also helped me connect with Some places bandages problem is is it's disconnecting us from the people around us if we know carefully will disconnect from children it'll disconnect us from lovers it will just was South Africa is I have I have a larger following in South Africa than I do the rest which is very often in fact we spend half a day each day on the weekend going for walks you know ten twelve fifteen kilometers books that's about my books and of that my teachings and about my videos and my postal let's stuff in fact that they are the largest purchases of my masterclass because I want to be able to say a person I want to be able to react with the person on the very visual person by nature so I need to be up to read the accused it's just something that I've done professionally we've donate things we don't need my vote on social media now let me just clarify that for a little bit social media has helped me and my the physical world we can connect to anybody at any time and understand no anything in all things but we kind of these physical world to understand physical connection now I have more in South Africa than I do anywhere else in the world like the word has gotten out in South Africa to be afraid of that or not connect us from our friends from my family and that I believe is absolutely an emergency like a worldwide emergency that we need to deal with channel now it's one reason why all the cushing calls do not have to work in a Internet based way old coaching calls I do is actually done via video learn to laugh and have a great time this is what living is all about this many people I get messages from ancient everyday signed so stuff it's just it's a really important thing to think about when I'm working that I try not to have my fine with me I generally don't like to be told by one we only liked to be told they exotic from across the ocean and I think that can also be something that happened a lot of cultures do you find a lot of them are addicted to their devices defined that that contributes to the loan you know we need to more proactively make choices that thing so we for instance we don't have dinner tables when I go affable with Michelle on Americans and definitely much more open to development growth and spiritual aspect thinks a strange plus trillion cynics based where skeptics and we I want to get the lines I this is what you really need to do and partly it's because they have hope they they feel depressed because many message so many phone calls in lots of stuff it you just have to disconnect so that you can reconnect domain just reconnect with Zoya so yep because they're on the device as much and it's actually changing the bone structure through the Knicks is that the one where it said they had horns I am sorry lonely join ahead of myself out of the cycle and you know it's a fascinating thing because they're the ones that need my services the most but there will be but the interesting thing is you know the addiction thing is a big issue and there's a Lotta studies going along and a lot of stuff that's already come out about particularly the way that you know we came hate to huggins hold onto my club and shake hands and each other on the back and you know to work with each other into conspire with each other yeah that one I saw that one too and it's funny because I belong to you know I'm a licensed massage therapist and that appeared on several of my my facebook when you've got five six seven hundred thousand comments die to get back to you need to learn understand some efficiencies to that that was talking about the skeletal structure of younger people is changing because they spending so much time with the Hey dan pointed towards they lapse groups that I belong to we've actually been seeing this show up in our younger clients so it is a real thing and just for everybody just to clarify don't talk has to show there's a lot of good souls in South Africa that really need a lot of help and on some looking forward to Halton event sometime soon but social media can definitely have it's young age I didn't really start accessing them until they were obtained just with technology works and may purchasing which the kids can access they'd technology and it's very deliberately done that why because otherwise I'd be on it all the time and the behavior that was sometimes we get out of them when we try to take the technology it was because I think I am hearing yeah every single comment and respond to everybody at the delegates to strike richer and that's that's what it is for me main reconnect back to yourself and what's important view and will alternately what is important for us is what we came here to do what we can mean to experience all the schools have access to all the other souls in Lena's worse yeah divorce addictions a really big deal and look off even had to quite consciously monitor my thing some is standing now across family groups you know I say real tragedy fortunately my kids were too young for IPADS and I find that he shen if we watching telly as a family which in a movie or something cool and stuff on Friday night we don't have funds with this we're playing board games we done for us connection I read something so alarming the other day and it was I forget what new sources came from but it was one of credible new sources out there I mean if the more mainstream media sources out there said basically and I've seen this play out even in my own nieces life where call them credible some of their own agenda exactly exactly but it wasn't just some offshoot website it was it being connected to their devices so much like that causes a lot of stress it causes depression anxiety it actually have got to a point where teenagers uh-huh I have to respond but just a love heart or modifies Baiji because one what they've said he's actually quite simple and doesn't really want much map but it's more of the point you know parents to entertain their children screens because you know his parents were increasingly busy guy from work we go to work and I'd call it of course they get the bullying from social media and from classmates things like that that occur over social divide era social media and devices that we didn't have growing up as children at least we had an escape when we'd go home at night or go home from from school every day we would at least escape that for a little while our kids that's what technology but the interesting thing is is that a lot of younger kids nowadays are actually growing up permanently glued to find stuff because it's actually the only way that window is is it's creating a level of disconnection amongst us we just aren't connected anymore twitch and not as a real problem and not just are not able to escape that because they have these devices that connect them to everybody and everything and it's just causing an epidemic of chill are teenagers AH my will find us is impacting teenagers than white and in fact almost re wiring their Brian's you know I saw an article the other day switch kind of right implies devil horns or something crazy way yeah that's exactly so it's interesting now household as well we have set times excited who start cutting themselves and doing all these things it's all because of pressure from being addicted right the social anxiety everything that they get from being connected to their devices all the time so my sister is actually kind of resorted to taking my nieces device away and she sees a dramatic who are cutting themselves I have a niece who does that and they did this study has proven that teenagers who are depressed too attic improvement in her behavior when she does that so this is actually a real thing study was proven on this and I've also seen it in my niece's life as well so how'd you parents do it that's what I wanNA know because I am not raising children we did have a teenager in the home for awhile from a different culture and he was absolutely glued to his device in today's world it seems like that is the norm almost like you're punishing your child if you don't give them a device Oh is it andrew something that you just established the morning we come back from six o'clock and nine they would organize DNA wash clothes we're going to do all these other sorts of things one time do we have to actually into children the problem two it was just insane and I didn't feel that I had the right to tell them to not be because I'm not his parent but anyway how do your parents do it because I had to turn themselves and I say all the time put you down and go outside and find something to do and they just look at me like what else can we do sounds like deviled ones out of the like a bone spur or something happening on the back of the neck or skull yes but they're calling it horns say yes we need to create a set of rules indicate them kids actually enjoy boundaries I feel Sipho we've boundaries keys one toss adults to take those things beforehand it was like taking them to the basic for Steph and stuff always grumbled beforehand as soon as they were in the water as soon as they will walking felt free again and they would thank me for the the reason I as much as I try to try to reconnect with that too so decide actually doing something you can do to help the situation let me help you do that because of customer demands to get back to everybody left-wing knowledge every Coleman that's been Siva good it's really working because everybody who is commenting feels like being assigned was that I fully concur with this because I've seen this in my own practice is you know we need to be consistent application and we need to be dedicated to that consistency cleave removed the poster child from that device and you stand by your gums and distract them with more connection site for many many years get off the school bus was soon as I get home about what did I was like you just want to get a response because they've been so overloaded and overwhelmed throughout the day they just want to switch off so we allow them that take time roles from the get-go yes to the question absolutely that's exactly what it's just you know there's a fabulous podcast between these are really important so we have a set of rules in these house ultimately speaking that the keys they get home from school they have a little bit of computer time so they can play the computer games other with it go outside wrestle of something in the grass I didn't care but just to grab something other than just staring at the screen and I can understand why a lot of the at the end of the walk these things are really really important site so important we need to disconnect from antennas disconnect technology and we need to walk often because they know that they're not being themselves while the connected with it but they can't they're extremely addictive the APPS it used on the way the fines are structured but that's it and we stand out guns with that big periods of time computer time we allow them to have a bit of a computer time being on Saturday mornings eh actually trigger pokey machine like adrenaline responses the addiction aspect of the scrolling screen and all that sort of stuff and the movements of left and right offices a couple and to do something Nostra sells for each other and that works quite well but then come sort of eleven o'clock Saturday morning Russell Brand and Brunei branch listen to just a couple of days so he just released and I love Burns work remarkable lady Bushey the nearest person would love and just give them a really big hug and I promise you it will feel a million times better than whatever that technology can bring us the addiction issues stuff is really really important it's what we might it's what we desire as part of our everyday existence he's to connect with people you know I say in my interview documentary that in Poland earlier this year you know we're just not connected anymore we're not listening people when someone's talking to you the vast majority of people and not even listening to them this trying to think of again as a bit of unwind so they can get out there and they can play the beauty is within lights and stuff for a few hours and she'll use it as a great opportunity to be walking and this was cited people now switch off the television in the evenings in our talked a lot about done listen to news reports correct I can play that can do whatever they wanna do they see that technology oldest son gets a bit of time later in the evening and stuff like that to reconnect with France fast now I'm just which off an income five o'clock and stuff like that all finds get benched so and we use that and benched because we've got a kitchen bench with charges on it and that's where I got nice and then I can like there's nothing else to do actually go gyns you've got like as in bullet gains in grab your rob a soul going buildings stop it smartphones tablets Betas and all the rest of it is it creates a hormonal response within us it creates a tricky when you connect with them we need to give them time to talk to us into actually he them because all the Saul wants is to be seen and heard all anybody wants is to be saying hood living in this corner low level fight or flight state which is actually a state of being constantly stressed that starts devices will get put away again computers switched off we usually we get a board game out if it's winter and we play cleal or risk Carcassonne or a horizon leaving finds it and we drive around to one of the local kyw's line points an NBA and we go for Big Wolf and a half I love it and they always grumble swatting and everything like that and the touch tactile aspect of a role very deliberately designed to create addiction us unless you fee awesome electrolyte and stuff that they put on television the more that can keep you hooked and keep you going Oh yeah absolutely big issue with the technology and Attila television during certain things like adrenal fatigue which then heavily impacts the immune system which then means we're more prone to being ill and sick which then triggers off a whole range of things like water hi where it's comfortable and Siphon that when we really should get out and try and do what we want to do particularly from a social perspective as well unwind from their dying disconnect three boys you conscious trust them in the deep end I e the science doesn't even try and engage in a conversation with boys as soon as Nina new faces because of the toxins build up in the body now these things are reversible if you've got the top of helping the right topic cable you need to be very careful with within us so increases levels of dopamine and increases levels of things that get us excited the problem is increasing period that is no wonder why we constantly think I knew cupboard's full of games we walk or we get the mount summertime we'll always got for swim or we go out for lunch together and stuff these hint about what their response is going to be because we live in a culture where we've got out to every discussion and everything all the time and it's wrong you know what we need to we need to look at the I'm watch the news on telly. This vice doubt depressing anyway they figured out that the mole fear and troll murder and terror with one of my children that too much technology can lead to them having migrants in a really really bad headaches triggers a loss of eyesight for a period of time that is well making sure it's a natural approach not chemical based approach because that's GonNa add more talk into the system but ultimately speaking with kids so we've realized but also to connect with nature that's what's very healing for me anyway is going to a place where usually when there is no cell service it's out in the middle of nowhere and you're out in the edge if you have to go to a place for a little while where there is no mobile service so that you can completely disconnect and not only just connect to your loved ones and it is hard andrew it really really is I mean I'm as guilty as the next person like you were saying to limit that that screen time Houston connect because you're disconnected absolutely and do you know what there is a booming tourist industry coming from the fact that people are choosing holidays say that's exactly what that's the way it should be because we need time we need the social interaction we need disconnection with anywhere over the age of thirty five forty you grew up in a world as a child without mobile phone contact which means you mentioned to survive the first ten fifty friends excuse me I've helped other people do it as well just leave you find behind you know you grew up in a world if you're anybody in nature and you're able to connect with your loved ones you're able to connect with nature all that is you know there's just something inherently healing and all of that to be able to read it's so true so true so it look at these things are really really important for us to to pay attention to you know natural means and stuff like that and avoiding no-one triggers for Migraines and stuff as well with actually managed to remove migraines old here which is interesting because it is how important do we are we live in this epidemic of loneliness and depression and it's caused by the fact that we raining too much time on our technology and not enough time connecting with people it's a simple fact I would challenge anybody I believe in your car if anybody's calling you and stuff like that you know what he can White House burning down don't call me when I'm with my friends deliberately with I don't have my contact oh it's so liberating it really is remarkable Michelle and has sales we've got ourselves booked in for two weeks for a few hours every day that's exactly right so labor to put it on the bench you know put it on the go outside into the into the they helping us but they're really not because they're doing they actually impacting the one thing that we were born to do that connect with others to touch this to hear of his the answer to itself he's actually really simple and we also think that compulsively the solution but I'm telling you it is because I I do what my family avenue for Migraines as a teenager as well and it was stress related in exactly the same way my father did so you know these devices we think you can't change it every choice has a consequence if you're spending too much time on you'll find you're not spending anywhere near enough time connecting with others if you using twenty of your developmental cycle without having contact with the outside World Mary true we've survived that millennia without it so we can is it really a true connection you're experiencing you know I now get a real connection with a lot of my facebook followers but that has taken us you know six months twelve months in that role buzzing because of what's going on it's also the reason why I like two days what I call my intimate luxury retreats way we disappeared someplace Ah self guided walking tour of the mountains of Japan one hundred fifty kilometers round trip two weeks walking anywhere from seven kilometers but nothing replaces face to face physical contact nothing replaces that this is one reason why like a professional events nine oh I wish you the best that sounds divine okay I think I've added something to my bucket list after you disoriented that the least they a little time if I have to pick someone up for a doctor's surgery and I have to wait for instance can sit there and answer emails and messages to people in my mind in which a beautiful song at that but you're right we just we we constantly searching for information because we can but you know I I'm also the first person to lime bit at night and go all just take a few messages before I go to sleep and then wonder why day two and a half hours later CEOS to talk with others to conspire without to laugh with others we just we just not doing that online and look I'm as guilty as the next person tonight at twenty five kilometers a day it's taken forward with us by Korea and we just we just walk in the mountains we going during the Cherry Blossom Festival and what that means is even if it's not they now it will be when you need it someone will arrive with the story was news or something like that this is our weather is crazy from our to our we definitely do that here lead there was once a crowded house song called full seasons in one day and and anything we end up at the mountain temple believe it's a Buddhist and when you disconnect me technology when you disconnect from the news and the carry on and the Internet and you know us I also actively monitor my use I switch off from it as well and I use that time in that opportunity to connect eligible the time and stuff like that you've got to get away from that technology as well I fully agree and respect the technology can help us connect with people as well but than online coaching Because with the Vincent stuff you get to see people and feel them and you feel the energy and the rim particularly when is a few hundred people in the when in fact there's this old spiritual belief that everything you possibly need in any given day is immediately around you already allergy pocket all the time you know to know what the temperature was going to be fourteen times a day you know we laugh but if weather gopher wool gopher swim get some exercise go visit a friend and when you visit a friend don't take him I'll find out and put it on the bench in front of you could be distracted with leave it in your hand on the same journey and lifelong relationships formed as a result of that there's there's nothing more rewarding than you know helping people make that connection but we can only food so we'll just have about these judgement from me your choices choices just understand that for every choice that you might as a consequence of that choice it's universal economy vegetables vegetables or meats vegetables herbs and spices and content everything we needed for mandated I was immediately around us net and I it comes down to just stopping and looking into someone's eyes and sign hello how are you are you are tie do that if we leave tech behind it's it's it's really really important we lived love we grew up without needing can be as simple as that I'm our love to thinks I'm crazy about people smiles I love making love making people laugh I should have been dot reconnecting bacteria tree Saint Sophy Wa and the environment around you you realize how true that stipe unease you realize how everyday passes and you suddenly realize extent comedian if I wasn't actually really comedian Nice prize me all the time I love it how small communities in villages thrived for so many many as is you know people shade information shade goods they bought it they tried and as I also said he my into documentary that I filmed you know some people who connect with me to try and make the change in their life why I'm the first the role they they're actually surprisingly shape as well they just all organized for you and everything like that which means you can get lost oh no kidding yes I definitely would love that thank you listen they've truly connected within ten years if not longer oh wow now you gotta understand the the great personal tragedy that actually ease and they just love people smiles because when someone smiles at you and I'm telling a genuine smile they a one hundred percent prison with you act but the other angle to at least I know a lot of people who are drawn to this type of worker what you would call highly sensitive or impacts I don't know if you're familiar with the impact bill really deep into what we need to make the changes that we need to make life and all the thoughts and reasons and everything like that behind it and the beautiful people made other people that you know one thing I wanted to to just put out there a little bit too we did touch Appel touch upon you know the need to disconnect to reconnect his touches as well I just find that such a beautiful present gesture that is beautiful I've heard of that too that is you yeah I love it the media and just start scrolling all the negativity that's out there and the hate and vitriol that people do put on social media I ended up absorbing see your loved ones arguing on social media and throwing hate and all this stuff around or

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Eight nine nine four six eight six. Our next guest is with a company. That's creating a new. A are toy. Market augmented reality toy market. Very cool stuff. That reveals fantastic worlds by connecting toys and games and one would think well. Haven't we done that already. All the well not necessarily but the ceo of augmented robotics is doing just that. Tony nigga. welcome into tomorrow. How are you sir. thanks for joining us. Hey dave thank you so much for having me. I'm doing very well how you doing. I'm doing much about her. Thanks we're we're doing. Well the cool thing is that you were of course at ifa in berlin where we could not attend for the first time and in eighteen years. Something about the eu. Not letting us americans in that in the fact that Chris and recovering from the rona. So the fact is that view were there and were able to talk about Not only augmented robotics at what you guys are doing. But show people how you are connecting toys and games. I tell us a little bit about augmented robotics. The company itself. And then. let's get into what you're doing. Sure thank you. Thank you well at augmented robotics as you already mentioned before our aim is reach put ties to the next level. We want to connect toys with cool stuff that kids know from the computer games and the best of is they don't have to stay inside actually to enjoy the games that they used to. They can go outside actually in the major with a favorite toy and experience. Those fantastic worlds in mandatory lati- around their favorite toy in the end. And that's even better because now you're encouraging the kids to get outside and breathe some nice air and and and enjoy some physical activity perhaps even though they're using augmented reality it allows them. It sounds to me to kind of immerse themselves in the game where they couldn't before. Yeah exactly exactly. This is what we are trying to encourage the kids. you know to take their creativity. You know daydreams in the end you know. And we have the technology to put these day dreams into reality everywhere. Wherever they are they can enjoy those amazing games. We favored ties. And maybe for just to explain a little bit about our company mandatory robotics. We're actually spin off of the technical university of maryland. Yes so it's really a techie. I remember we passed the technical university every year every day to and from the hotel and the f. affair ground so we're very familiar with one day. We'll have to go inside and actually see words there but apparently folks like you are there. Yeah yeah. it's a courageous. I can only recommend it. Like most of my co-founder actually all of employers studied mass and space engineering. So what we did there. Building rockets satellites and mask rovers. So it's a great place to be so you're telling me tony that rocket scientists actually started this company. How how did rocket scientists get into toys and games or was it a pretty logical step to say. Look the stuff we're doing. It's it can be considered toys and games but on a much higher level. Let's actually do it. Yeah exactly very good question. Actually well as a grew up in an environment of aerospace engineering We also worked restaurants a lot and we had private little hobby projects actually on the side. my founders of guinea and patrick and me and what are Side hobby project was to create drones with a our content so we wanted to have like virtual drones like spaceships next to us and fight each other. India can seem to be too difficult in the beginning so we started was little teicher and figured out was already a lot of fun. Actually doing that was little prototype and then we went to the toy industry and say. Look at our little prototype. Is this something you would be interested in. Actually and they got huge is said like yeah definitely. We want to integrate technology into our products and this was basically metrics as some so. Then how is it that you integrate them. Can you give us some samples or ideas. How how what the kids might already be familiar with. And you're taking it to that next level. Sure sure sure so. Imagine you're having a radio controlled toy that you're that you're used to from your child like a car. Something you know usually what you could do is cast just like drive forward backward left right or whatever. And that's it with our technology you can maneuver these kind of cars with your smartphone and you see virtual objects in a real environment like coins to collect or treasurers or like obstacle and so on and you can even played without a kids so you can shoot virtual tattle at each other and so it gets let it adds a layer of mock content on the already existing ties very can. Do you can show you a video please. That would be awesome gives we. We would like to get a better idea of how it all works here. Okay let's let's have a look at this video. Mario little mario and what you're doing is put our little device at these enables you to control with your smartphone and then as you can see actually now you can collect these coins okay so so folks that are not yet being able to watch the video at into tomorrow dot com listening on the radio. You're watching on your phone and able to see mario in his cart running around in this case a sidewalk and on your phone. You're seeing coins or various treasures that you would pick up in a game that you're able to do at that point which i think is very cool. I mean that that certainly sets you aside from just somebody playing the game and yeah sure picking up the coins and whatnot but you actually have in this case of physical toy. That's running around on the sidewalk in the house or wherever you might be. That's i think that's very neat. Sit circle and to kits. We tried it with with many kids and We're always surprised on how they react with it. And what they're doing with it because the kids interact with our products in a different way than we could imagine. And it's a. It's a lot of fun to watch the kids play with it. Sure they can get real creative. I'm assuming there two. They can aid tony. I tell you what. Let's go ahead and play with mario and his cart for a couple of minutes. Pay a couple of our bills during a commercial break and come right back. We're talking with the ceo of augmented. Robotics tony niche. Thousands of people contact invent help monthly about their invention or new product. Do you think companies would be interested in your idea. Do you want to try to get a patent call invent help now. Best of all the call and information are free invent help. Keep your idea. 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You know they're doing an amazing jokes and they offer amazing products s wall. They do a little bit of augmented reality yet. and good products. Don't get wrong. They have they have an awesome portfolio But what we are doing and is a step of boss this. You know what we're really focusing on is the interaction between the wheel product. Anti a our world you know. Our augmented reality is not just little gimmick around its demane game in the end and also legal and intendo are only offering their own products of course and we are technology provider. Meaning that we offer these kind of technologies to other companies from the game industry for them to upgrade their thais. Soon get into the time of digitalization. So i love that idea so folks that are not lego or nintendo related or oriented. Still have an opportunity to get with you for example at augmented robotics and say we'd like our toys to be able to do this as well and i'm sure you will open the door and say come on in. We can make that happen. And then doing yeah. I love it now. Artificial intelligence and toys. I'm assuming that that's got some of our audience thinking that sounds a little scary and toys. I mean at what point you know. Have we gone too far or can we or you know what's what's ai. Doing with toys. Yes sure this is a pint and we just want the deep tech award. Last last thursday actually in germany for one of the best artificial intelligence. Welcome grab thanks. You and but we're not doing skynet or anything. Like evil from terminator. Good intelligence. like at official intelligence isn't using personal. Data are trying to influence you in your personal behavior doing what we're doing with these artificial intelligence is detecting the real objects the toys in the environment in order to come from a technical point of view make it possible that these toys interact versus digital content. So it's like a indoor navigation system are artificial intelligence and it has nothing to do with anything evil kind of thing so parents need not be worried at all. They're doing the right thing and again since you talk about So much research and watching kids interact in their excitement. You're obviously going to continue to take care of the kids and not scare them. Either you want them and other companies to be involved to do this on a very positive manner. I think it's safe to say tony that you're assuming that augmented reality is the future of toys. I mean we're going to see a lot more a are into tomorrow as it relates to toys. Yes definitely definitely well. Just think back to the time when you were a child. You had all long long long ago. I'm thinking about that like maybe even as an adult. You know you try around in your car and you have kind of daydream of what could be possible as kids. You mentioned like knights and dragons or cowboys fighting each other and it was technology. We are actually able to to do that. To let these streams come reality and as we are able to as technology is at this stage you know you also have to see from a company. Perspective like every product is competing with every product and the industry is facing a huge huge huge challenge to compete this digital products and an auditor to stay competitive They have to integrate some kind of digital into their products. And this is exactly what we're offering without taking their main product. They're hot way. The main idea we just add a little bit around and make it interesting kits and competitive with digital products. Do you foresee and you may already be doing this. But even maybe from a in this case you were showing us little video of mario and his cart. Do you see maybe from mario's perspective as well so that. Somebody's looking at at if they were driving the cart going around picking up the coins and things. Is that part of what you're able to do or we'll be doing. Do you think yes actually disbursed our initial idea. Yes beck and that's what we try to sell to the industry. And they were a little bit scared of cameras in children that privacy issue understandably would exactly and depressed commercials not dead cheap. Nita could offered it and actually business. What nintendo is doing now. You know native car like that and it's great you know so i'm hoping with nintendo. Doing this awesome product at a company will jump onto this kind of train and do it as well but we also have other products for our customers came to us just going to share my my scream an ask us are. We have more products activities for example that cannot move and we digitalize these kind of products as well so now you can use your smartphone to just scan your teddy easily and then integrate these teddy in a virtual environment in front an art mental. Very cool and again those listening on the radio. He's now showing us be sure to come by and check out the video at into tomorrow dot com. But he's showing teddy bear and how you can simply scan An nfc chip select a game. You wanna play with the teddy bear and then play it. and now there's this Virtual city it looks like in front of the teddy bear. And i'm sure there's many options in many different things to do but that's something else that augmented robotics is already doing and no doubt looking to do with even more toys in the future. Exactly exactly on so basically what we're doing we at a little bit of digital content for forever retired you know and this is what our customers came to ask and dissolution. Is there now well. And i'm assuming tony between yourself and your other two rocket scientists literally that you're gonna come up with even more unique things. Where augmented reality toys is a different. It is a new reality for toys. And i'm glad that you're there. I'm delighted that you were exhibiting at epa and and that you've had opportunity to share some of what you guys are doing with us. Thanks so much for spending a few minutes with us. Thank you so much for having me. It was a pleasure and yet we are welcome to answer any questions of your followers terrific business. We'll we'll do. Just that will pass them on to you as well. Augmented dash robotics dot com. Hit us up into tomorrow. Dot com prenatal care for expecting mothers has been revolutionized by ultrasound. Imaging of course well now. This technology is available with a smartphone with this week into tomorrow. Health minute brought to you by dex com. Here's alfred poor. Thanks dave one of the miracles of modern medicine is digital imaging safe. An accurate technologies such as ultrasound have made it easier to see what's going on inside a patient's body. This is especially true for expectant mothers ultrasound. Let's healthcare professionals check on the baby while it's still in the womb. Patients still have to travel to a doctor's office or other clinical setting to get a scan but that is changing poulsen more is and rayleigh company that has created ultrasound transceiver that connects with a smartphone. Mothers can stand their bellies at home and the system will store and forward the images to healthcare professionals for review using artificial intelligence to guide the user. The system has been shown to be ninety. Five percent accurate. The device is approved in israel. And the eu with fda clearance pending. This device could also help improve prenatal care in underserved regions of the world for into tomorrow. I'm alfred poor back to you. 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Be sure to do just that now. Nick son among who is the ceo and founder of future candy and innovation agency from germany. Had an interesting. Ifa talk and of course our team. That was audio and video for us in berlin Captured his talk and one of the more interesting keno titles at isa. This year was called from jesus to hyperloop. This was part of the shift mobility event and it certainly caught our attention. It was presented. As i mentioned by nixon amend the ceo and founder of future candy. He says there are. They are an innovation agency and in his talk he discussed the past present and future of the travel industry. Two thousand years ago everett's person in its entire lifespan. Only lift in the radio of one hundred fifty kilometers. Jesus christ only moved around in a radius of one hundred fifty kilometers and last year of we could take a plane are still it only took us forty five hours to get around the globe and there was also because of one plane that is being discontinued this year. The seven. four. Seven from boeing. The plane that frank the world so mobility is one of the main things entire life. Yeah it means everything. Trevor and mobility is one of the main needs of human beings and of course the travel industry is one of the oldest around and like many industries it continues to evolve once an industry is gone. It never cease to exist. It's always continuing the besseges. The technology changes so here. We had in the beginning in the eighteen. Hundreds we had railroads and now we have hyperloop so transportation and mobility is very dynamic sector now and then but the main problem of all of us here in our brains and minds. we have fifty years of advertising. Spend from the from the industry fifty years the kyw industries have told us we have to own a car so this is why we all still desire. Many of us still desire to buy car. But i say this changing. I say now here on state in three years time more and more people would say okay. I spend eight thousand euros or dollars. I spent on owning account every year. I take this money and spend it on other. Things is good bikes. Kost tearing all these other things one of the things. Nick related the mobility industry to is entertainment. And the fact that the more choices we have the more we will take advantage of so in the one thousand nine hundred seventy s people spent only three hours consuming media and now in the two thousand people spend ten hours an average day in germany using media unbelievably and that is because of more and more platforms. We had internet. We had more by streaming two more platforms. We had the mormon time people consume media. We formally only had the car. The public transport the plane the bike and walking. Now we also have cost hearing we have east as we have. We have bikes sharing. We have all these new new inventions and make us more mobile. So we all benefit from this. The more fragmented will be the more mobile. We will be israel boy. It's too bad he wasn't excited. He also talked about other ways. The industry is evolving like the fact. In light of the pandemic certain new careers have popped up. You need to employ hygiene engineers like this guy raymond wing. You need to take people him on board because the need to think. What do i do. Actually with era sold inside my means of transport or with surfaces. How do they clean themselves here. This guy he invented a new al sucking system inside the cabin of an airplane so if the person sneezes in an airplane you see that all the germs and aerosol get sucked out in the bottom of the seats so that's why no one can get affected just by some alvin. Today's rhyme vang invented. This and that's the people who are inside your business now because the consumer with pay for hygiene hygenic clean mean of transport. One problem many of us living in larger cities have is of course traffic. The sheer number of cars in cities like new york los angeles even here in miami causes a huge headache. One solution nick offers is a whole new way to plan cities. The reason why we all have cars is because the city planning was designed like this. So now it's really come in for the western world too old to own a car because most cities for designed to the sixties after the second world war so but the problem is is of course. It takes a little space to other people in the car. The people on the bike twenty people it in a bus or train. You can see how much clever it would be to have. Everyone fitted into a train. Yeah we see that because of all the new cities new transport and able to complete a new city planning now even the united states but we have a lot of car owners and users say it's say as for for bike has gone up hundred thirty percent. You can't buy a bike anymore in an us bike store because they all sold out. Nick wrapped up his address by talking about the future of the mobility industry namely the hyperloop. That we've all heard about for a few years now. Many companies including one owned by elon. Musk are working on making this mode of transportation reality and soon the future never stops from jesus to hyperloop. In three years time we will have the first hyperloop tracks in india. There's eight hyperloop companies in the world. One is an abu dhabi. One is in india and the united states and canada and the first one starting. It will be in india if you do that. We have new a new mobility come concepts coming up when we have the hyperloop in three years time. You can take a means of transport whenever you want here. this guy. He has to go from abu dhabi to dakar and he just goes to the train station. Hyperloop stage whenever he wants and then from abu dhabi to dubai and whatever he arrives his pot will be put into one hyperloop and then he gets sent off. So that's why it's no no arriva times that you have to get you you have to follow. You can go in and hyperloop whatever you want to. So this is the world we will be entering suit and then i can go from cologne hamburg and twenty nine minutes now. I need four hours in a train or in a car or even plain including check out time and chicken times twenty nine minutes from the city centre to the city's center to let me finish with one thing. What does all this mean. It's your job to restart. Our industry go out. Tell the message. Become an then teases for love you boy for somebody recovering from dual pneumonia. I'm out of breath. That was nick. Son of and ceo and founder of future candy. 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We are in the robot vacuum space. We called robot vacuum because it's a robot and nito is a company that is fifteen years olds seem say young company but in the field of robotics is actually quiet a senior company. We've launched off rostro but about ten years ago. In ten years we created eight generations off so this is the eighth generation with today. Here and very important for us is To to point out the features it starts with the shape. And that is a so-called shape. And why is it so important because it cleans in the corners and that is what rondo was. Has this super big brush which actually cleans everywhere so the shape is important. And then the next is how to navigate because robots really want to do a good job and it is important for us using laser as navigator so the laser cancer room it creates a map and we use complex algorithms to calculate the perfect match of your of your home space and then the algorithm to clean the floor. We don't want to lose out any spot and we wanna make sure. It's very efficient and cleaned in corona times People are more sensitive than ever when it comes to a clean home and we see that. Run times off. The robots have been increasing over twenty to thirty percent. Even i mean people are using more robots which is great on We built them for last. We wanna make sure that they worked long. And you're happy with it especially if you have pets for example with hair. We have special brushes that you can use. We have special pat modes that you can switch on so that the robot then makes sure it picks up all these hairs. Our founders had one dream to actually create the robot that perform houseful. Char's like a human being to free them from this. Let's say unhappy work of cleaning the house. And i think that's something that a lot of companies are working on. The robotic part is really the artificial intelligence the learning so that the robot itself understands that there are changes in the house right. There's furniture moving from left to right. People are moving around. Your pads are hugh or there and we want to make sure that the robot doesn't file it on the stairs for example war. Damage your precious furniture or it never runs over your precious pets. My wife would kill me right if that would happen. So that's very important. And these are features that are there and artificial intelligence. As i said the robotics is important. We control robots through the app. We were the first to introduce a controlled. A robot through wifi. And you can schedule your. Your robot can also connected to your home network you google or your alexa speaker and you can basically create zones and can tell them. Hey just cleaned the bathroom and it was go and clean the bathroom and if you have areas that you don't want the robot to go just draw lines and wouldn't touch it to there are a lot of features and we have the update opportunity so Not only that. The robot itself learns but we can send continuously updates that the robots get smarter over time the markets for robotics extremists strong increasing. Which is a little bit unique in this consumer space. With very happy we see double digit growth rates every year and also the ever since prices going up and even this year with gerona impact we see that the market is still glowing and in two thousand seventeen. Roughly seven point three million units were shipped in this year. We estimate over. Twelve million units to be shipped to the market and the value of the global market for about six vacuums at this in this year is about two billion and magazines and jfk. Things in two thousand twenty five it will go up to two to six billion dollars which is huge and the is have been They offer more and more shelf. Space for the robots and people have a choice and we want to make sure that we have the absolute top notch product and the new detention. We call the ultimate clean machine. So we hope you'll love it and you take it home and you enjoy it. Thomas netter the ceo of neato robotics. We encourage you to participate in the gift card. Challenge these days. We all probably know of a local business. That is struggling to adapt to the current realities. Here's a small way that you can help announcing the gift guard challenge if you're able of your favorite local business and then by gift card today buy it online or pledged to one as soon as you can. Every little bit will help bring have or delivery. Many businesses have online shopping options participate in the gift card challenged today by gift card. 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What is this so personal. Contact is key for us. This belt translates everything you can here. In movies and games in music virtual reality into haptic feedback vibrations. Basically so you can feel it around your waist the high notes and the front the notes on the back so we're going full full range of frequencies and we're even telling apart left and right so she can feel way she's hitting the curve to the right to left like sheiks sitting in a real car. there are basically two big benefits the oneness. She's doing right now. She's able hearing person for her. It's fun it's immersion. And she's just more in the content but on the other side they're deaf people would this belt since it so precise with the splitting up the frequencies and the directions deaf people can use it to bring back everything they missed by being able to hear so whenever they watch a movie they will be able to tell apart the villains deep voice from the lady's screams for help sh they will know if the buses coming from the left to the right or the other way round and in the same way it could work as an assistant and their regular life on the streets out there especially in the sim racing can see huge pete in sales because all the official races everything was out there on the regular racetracks that all has been canceled for month so Say his numbers are going up. Pull them and they love the field. I think that's especially cool. That they're helping the hearing impaired in that sense as well. Karston klipstine is the business development manager with feel belly. This is betty white. 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Click on the microphone at the top of the page and type in fox. Welcome into tomorrow with dave line the interactive radio network program with the latest in high tech products and services and the experts. Who bring them to you. This is into tomorrow. Here's grave line. Welcome into to borrow for the weekend of friday november twenty seventh thanksgiving weekend during our twenty fifth year on the air. I'm dave grave line. I'm chris grave line. We are thankful for many things especially in most importantly you our audience for listening to the program even more thankful when you call in and participate on the program. Chris and i are also thankful for both of us. Having survived the the rona. So there's a lot to be thankful for we'll as you said last hour we're also thankful for the flood versus a fire right disasters go floods low on the Emergency people lose their bars for us here in this scenario. Yeah because our control room and tv studios are step down lower from the rest of our facility. The radio studio and everything else so that became a problem when we had about three inches of water from a tropical storm. Ater come pouring in. You might say flooding in ruining a whole bunch of stuff. But we're thankful for the fact that it could have been worse and it wasn't we're also thankful to give our staff the weekend off to celebrate thanksgiving with their families and as a result we're bringing you highlights from our recent ifa broadcast yes. Yes but what is not off. The holidays are ask. Dave hotline participate on the show to win prizes. Eight hundred eight nine nine into the founder and chief medical officer from a company called eb technologies e b technologies who is also very involved with for this year. Dr eric not nuff singer joins us dr. Eric welcome into tomorrow. How are you sir. Ige very good. Thanks and it's great to be here. We're glad to have you with us because it certainly caught our attention when you talk about calming racing. Mind i am. I not the only one that has that issue that it's like mine to stop. I just gotta go to sleep now. It's you know. I i was Practicing sleep medicine for over thirty five years and one of the most common complaints that people come to me with as doc you know my my head hits the pillow at night time but i just can't stop my mind from going. My my mind continues to work. I continue to think about this now. The other thing doesn't make any sense. I just can't get it to stop at night nine. So so that's where we come in golf is is trying to help with that parted sleeplessness. And of course you're an md. So you know from a medical concern. This is not good for us to be up all night hoping to finally fall asleep this disrupts a whole lot of our lives. And it's not like we don't hit the pillow tired because i've been exhausted. Say oh man. Tonight's going to be a good night's sleep. Because i'm just exhausted and then the mind won't stop and it's like people say we'll count sheep. Please yeah that. I count breath. I count you know the ceiling. Whatever nothing works and then of course. I'm a clock watcher anyway. So well it's one thirty if i get to sleep now i've still got five hours and that doesn't help us so this is. This is a problem that many of us suffer. Yeah it really is. It's about half of the people in the united states will have problems sleeping at one point or another in their lifetime. And as you mentioned i i am an md. My career was mostly spent in research at the university of pittsburgh where i was a professor and did a lot of nih research. We did brain imaging studies to understand the biological mechanisms behind the problems falling asleep at night time. And and what we found. Is that the frontal cortex our executive mind just doesn't shot off. It remains active even though were asleep at night time so that the device is really devised to fit over the forehead over that area of the frontal cortex to reduce that activity so that people can drift into more general and restful sleep at night time. Well i like eric how you're calling the executive mind that makes me feel a little better of the dave is going nuts mind. It's the executive mind that won't stop. So how'd you come up with the idea for this device that is has it already begun helping people. Is it available yet. Yes it is available. It's you can go to our website and sleep dot com and it's available for purchase there at sevilla ball and Amazon bed bath and beyond our variety of the commercial and consumer out. And it's where it can be so the idea really came up The the problem in medicine is how you treat sleeplessness or insomnia in up until this point in time the only solution we have were were sleeping pill drill and sleeping pills or not. Necessarily the best thing. They can be habit forming People can become dependent on them and they do have. unfortunately it's some side effects drowsy. driving memory. Problems confusion arouses in the middle of the night so most doctors and most patients would prefer more healthy natural solution. Which is what we think that we have. It's a very safe Device it has in other renditions been fda cleared for the treatment of sleep problems so as a lot of scientific research behind it. It helped calm down the racing mind to allow people to get more restful sleep so i'm hearing listeners in my head which is what i hear all the time especially when i'm trying to go to sleep saying things like well why not. Just turn your ac all the way down if if we need to cool this executive mind and that's what you're eb device does wouldn't that help or is it not now concentrated where we needed. That's exactly right. He has to be concentrated. And you can imagine if the room around you is cool all your body kind of works against that so our bodies keep themselves warm all day irrespective of whether or not. There's air conditioning on or fan. Or you're outside. So our bodies have a natural way of regulating themselves and keeping themselves warm and hot so it does require a little bit extra energy and The device cools fluids and. Then it circulates the fluids all night long over the forehead in you can imagine sitting in a cold lake is going to do more cooling than just being outside on a chilly day. If you will true and i guess if you're bringing the down dramatically not only. Are you chilling the entire house that doesn't need to be chilled when it's just the bedroom but you're killing your entire body that doesn't need to be chilled water. In this case this forehead device is chilling. The area That you need now. I'm also thinking what about folks that are thinking. Yeah but won't that gives me a headache is is there that kind of an issue with cooling justice forehead. Yeah so it's not much. Cooling it's a precision cooling and the level of cooling is in a moderate range it's In the high fifty degree around sixty degrees fahrenheit range. this is not an ice cube. This is not an ice pack. It's a you know it's a. It's a reasonably comfortable level cooling but it's continuous all night long so it is providing. Just the right amount of thermal stimulus if you will help people get to sleep night but not aroused them. It's it's not gonna wake them up because they're feeling to cold good. I i like a little thermal stimulus that can always be helpful right and it looks like for those listening on the radio have not yet seen the video which again be sure to come by into tomorrow dot com and it's designed to stay on all night right so if i'm aside sleeper it's not gonna be a problem Those that might sleep on their stomach is at an issue or it's just a matter of positioning your pillow. Perhaps with the headband. Yeah you know This thin it's really very thin In comfortable just like putting on a stocking cap and let's that level of thickness it's not gonna interfere with your head even if you're faced down though you you could wear it in that position on either side on your back. No problems with tossing and turning and it's called the eb cool draft. Yes that's correct. Drift is the name of the froth and ab why that name you know we is the been flow of the ocean with the tides. In the comes in. There's a lot of energy that builds up and then when the ocean drifts back out either kind of a a calming sensation. We re like that dan. It's the abbots the flowing out of these Forces in the ocean that the tides of the ocean also reflect a rhythmic process. Which is what the sleep wake cycle is all about you. We go back and forth into sleep and wakefulness over the course of a day. So it is a natural body rhythm got you. And what does it cost. How many us dollars at this point. Yeah so we have a couple of different versions. it's just under four hundred dollars for our lex version and we also have a verse versa version. Which is a little bit more affordable Which is in the mid three hundred dollar range and and people can see both versions on our website and they can understand the the minor differences between these two and frankly for those of us that do have trouble falling asleep because the executive mind just won't slow down. It's it's it seems to be very reasonable to get that not only peace of mind but to get some sleep and to be able to say. This is going to do the job for me. I'm assuming the experience of your customers up to now has been very favourable and you're getting appropriate response that i can actually sleep now and get to sleep appropriately. Yeah so we have evidence from our clinical research studies. And in order to get fda clearance. We do randomized controlled clinical crimes in in relationship to a placebo our benefits and then The experience of people wearing it as they feel that it's a calming relaxing sensation if they were in meditated like stay so it does have a really comforting sensation to wear this at night time and then to get a good night's sleep like miraculous for a lot of individuals and i'd like your description about kind of a comfy state without taking pills because having unfortunately been in the hospital for a month with covid Now negative and still dealing with you know the end of pneumonia is. I've tried to stay away from those meds of because they make me feel loopy and it's also more difficult to go to sleep because while it's hopefully cutting down some of the pain. The mind is still racing so by all means will invite our audience to visit eb sleep dot com e. bb sleep dot com. and of. Course we'll get you there when you hit us up but in two tomorrow dot com dr eric off singer. 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Eight hundred eight nine nine into. That's eight hundred eight nine nine four six eight six the home as we know it is of course going through at evolution and in twenty twenty where only scratching the surface of what's possible from providing shelter. Our homes are moving towards autonomic an automatic applications detecting connecting and reacting connected. Home devices already started enhancing our lives of course years ago with improved entertainment comfort security and resource saving but with the abcd of tech that's ai. Blockchain cloud and data also entering homes the way for semi autonomous and fully autonomous. Homes is coming closer than we might think. Well the presentation at isa gave the audience and interactive look behind the scenes of a hardware deep tech company. That innovates the way we connect communicate and live so certainly one of the more interesting talks at this year's if a special edition was given by eric actor he is the european head of merck coup. A canadian company specializing in smart home. Technology the topic of home is actually a very important not to everybody year being at home now for a long time but also to us mirko where we want to give an inside now of the knowledge that we have that our homes will turn autonomous and i wanna to give glimpse of holiday. Our smart living can look like eric talked about how technology has moved into every aspect of our lives but also mentions one area. He believes isn't quite smart enough. All our social life financial life work life where we've represented in not just phones but cars homes workplaces because technology is right now moving into every sector in our life. We right now in. The final wave of digitisation started a few decades ago when we were happy that instead of buying a cd record clinton and download a song. That was awesome right. Media turned to. It's so easy to consume media. But since then we've come such a long way. Many many industries banking sector and basically everybody else is joining. This wave now and many thought you know. By the year twenty thirty we will have the full digitization which has been accelerated now because of corona virus to the year. Twenty twenty and the good thing is we are living right now in a very smart world. Just think about you have a computer in your pocket. We are driving all smart. 'cause go to work all smartphones and smart laptops. We're getting a smart coffee where we don't have to press the button anymore. Just wake up. It's making us a coffee. We have nice sliding or all around us. We get maybe a smart hairbrush but the truth is this one area which we believe is not smart and that is all homes. Eric says the terms smart home is not accurate to us as it is. He compares the home to things like smartphones tablets and laptops. That really are smart but says the home still needs some work. Our homes compared to a phone. Don't have a brain yet our phone if you take your smartphone right is that android or or epo doesn't really matter. It usually has an app store and it has a lot of standards where all of their applications on top. The agree on these standards to work together. So you take your phone you go to the app store you click a button and you add a new application to your phone. Imagine this and our home so you go to your favorite retailer. You click a button. You oughta new application for your home. Let's say security system and just think about the installation that you have to do right. It's not so seemless. The industry is very scattered right now. And our home if we compared with a smartphone doesn't have a central unit where it's then controlling all of the other smart applications and devices. He says however that homes have still come a long way. The good news is you know. Compared to hundreds of years ago i our homes have already come a very long way before we only regarded homes as secure roof of our head to protect our rains but we add it a lot of sensors and devices. That are now helping us to do some autonomic decisions for example. I know that the temperature is thirty degrees than i. Turn up the regulation in my ac. My air conditioner and all of these automations. They're increasingly working together leading basically to this autonomy that we are seeing right now being developed very advanced actually already in factories. And in cass eric. Then talk to us about what makes up the building blocks of the autonomous home. All of the new frontier technologies like five g. That's a all in the media and use right now but also technologies like six wife. Physics e blockchain. Iot are moving now into our homes and they're building now the foundation of the autonomous home which we call it. The abc's starting with the it's automation. Right you need to automate processes and the home needs to know how to automate it. In order to provide the first of the autonomy. The second thing is it only works if you have data so the be standing here for for the big data is the information about our habits the workflows the devices the external environments the user. The the habits on of this information is basically feed into the abc's of our home and the last one is the computing. As i mentioned our home right now doesn't have a computing unit but there's a big movement in the industry to combining not just the cloud. Where i mean that's amazing. You have a lot of very advanced software. That's provided in cloud computing that we can use but also it needs an edge computing basically local computing unit on the side that is helping to keep For example the the data more secure and fast enough to process the the different processes. We're hearing the talk at ifa. From berlin germany of eric ackner the president of merck coup smart home europe. And he says you can't compare a home to a human humans having only one nervous system and brain are inferior there is however a member of the animal kingdom that he says makes a much better comparison. That's more like an octopus and octopus has to nova systems. And it has a lot of brain lobes and very advanced sensors to collect information all around them and they have nine brains to process all of this information and basically use it for their living. In of the home it would be basically the autonomy to assist us and take over book on if this has led to an explosion of applications and devices that are right now pouring into industry. They're thousands of manufacturers and providers of these solutions and they generally provide six different use cases or benefits for the us right it. It makes more secure. I suddenly know if somebody's ringing on the door. I can look at them right. 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Julio dot net's into tomorrow continues our coverage of the special edition of epa twenty twenty from berlin germany via virtually our miami studios before the commercial break. We were chatting with eric ackner. The president of merck coup smart home europe a canadian company and his talk. Your home is turning autonomous. It's a glimpse into the future of smart living something that's really driving the advancement of home automation. Our voice assistance. Whether it's amazon's alexa. Google assistant or siri. They all have a hand in pushing us towards a more automated home. The interesting case here is voice assistance. What actually the voice assistance are doing is number one. It's now much except to have devices in our home. Because i understand. Oh with these devices. I can make my life easier by just controlling it by talking to them right. Turn on the lights. Turn off the light and on the music but what's even more important. These voice assistance half done two things. The first thing is they transformed our habits away from the age of touch actually our next generation as called generation v v standing for us. It's the generation voice. They already have much different habits than i do like. I'm over thirty. I often don't understand what the next generation is doing. And the second thing is alexa had in four years ago. Only one hundred thirty skills with a i official intelligence behind it is not over. Eighty thousand two thousand eighteen now easily over one hundred thousand so is moving into our home and this is accelerating lot more automation and boy. That's a lot of skill growth for alexa as one example. And of course when you're home recovering in my case after a hospital stay and so forth you really since you're not moving very well and so forth you really take advantage of whether it's alexa or google home as i have been doing for the last couple of weeks asking them to turn on and off and so forth so you begin to see how important that is he points out that. There are many benefits to a smart or autonomous home. If you will one of the biggest benefits he says is for health reasons. We are not all stuck at home. And i'll would isn't a global crisis. Our governments antenna provide us have realized that they themselves cannot solve this. We don't have enough people. It's not secure to send everybody. It's impossible to track what's happening at home so as smart home that actually sends the vital signs off the condition of somebody at home telehealth or did a health will help us to tackle this global care crisis. This is not just a problem of resources like manpower money. It's very our population is aging. We have more and more elderly people that are sick. People that really take care of so technology will help us. Hey i resemble that remark. Eric also says that an autonomous home will help us. Conserve resources like electricity. It's easier to turn lights off in a room. That's not in us. That also helps us of course to save money on energy costs. He also points out. That in thomas home gives us more time for us. Imagine you come home and your home is the food for you. It has clinton apartment. It's actually taken care of you instead of you taking care of your home in a survey where You know elderly of over fifty in the uk will ask. What's the most important aspect in your life after your retirement and the most important thing is they want to stay in your home as long as possible and this is kind of the future that i want to provide to my grandparents. My parents even myself. That's if you want to live in. I want to stay in my familiar environment. Where you safe. So these autonomous homes can actually provide this environment. Take taking care of us. Yeah my kids and grandkids better here that there are a couple of technologies. Eric says can help move us towards an automated home. The first of course is why airless bio-sensing we can not only detect motion and presence but breathing and heartbeat. You don't need to wear anything you're just put for example alight or speaker like in this case you sit on the furniture or wheelchair and those equipment will help you like check engine for your health to measure your health. We are able to for example to even detect heart. Beats and just think about that. How crazy that sounds right. So imagine you stand in front of a wifi router and it can see your heartbeat. Humans are just a bag of water so the signal is going through us and it can measure millimeter changes in the environment detecting basically the vital signs so you can then give a light for example to your grandma put it next to the bed and you can feel safe that without losing maybe anywhere but you know about her condition and that's pretty cool and other technology helping to advance home. Automation is location services whether that gps for outside the home or rfid which of course is radio frequency. identification inside your home obviously. Gps doesn't work indoors but with rfid. Your home can know even which room you are in. Its imagine you go into your home and then your house knows okay. It's you and it's turning on the light wherever you are walking it can help you to find something alexa. Show me the way to my key and then can show you on your phone or we have always wear. You have lost something but what. We are also envisioning for example predictive lighting. So your home knows you're moving for example into one direction and then it helps you to turn the light On on an off or it can do the same with music. So it's much smarter and helping you to move your seamless on your home. Check out the video and much more from ifa at into tomorrow dot com. That was eric. Ackner president of merck. Who smart home europe. A canadian company into tomorrow continues. And we want to hear from you too if you want more information on any of the things you're hearing on the show today. Eight hundred eight nine nine into or even better. Use the audio option on the into tomorrow app steed. That me down here. What are you a yellow booger. Banana slug steven. What are you doing in my room. I'm your chance of adventure. It's been a long time. We had an adventure in the forest. Monto printers of forest last year. I'm a slug steven. It took me a long time to get here. You're right. I should get out. The forest is not that far away. 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Our free app qualcomm president. Christiano amman delivered fas opening keynote in line. With many other presenters at this year's event was there virtually like us. He's based here in the us. He also talked in his keynote about the millimeter wave band used by five g networks also called extremely high frequency or e h f. It is in layman's terms. Fast much faster than the four g and lt speeds. We've seen for years. He explained that as our consumption of data increases the need for higher speeds also increases. Millimeter wave is required to address extreme data demand s people the more video streaming immersive entertainment including cloud gaming as well as virtual presence for the evolution of social telemedicine and education. Five g fixed wireless access in private networks will also benefit for millimeter wave eddie. Compliments fibre broadband new neighbor. Emerging use cases in the enterprise and industrial and military performance is amazing based on analysis by okla rewards speed test data. They everage download speed for five g. Millimeter wave is four times faster than five. T speeds in need band spectrum with peak speeds of more than two gigabits per second more than a hundred and twenty operators are now investing to commercially. Deploy five in this spectrum in the united states. Measure operators have launched five services in this higher bands in most five device models offered in the country today. Support the wave. Holy cow two gig speeds. That's nice of course it's not just smartphones. That are a part of our everyday life. Smartwatches wireless earbuds. Vr and ar headsets fitness bands. That we've talked about these all have become commonplace and have connected us to people and content in new ways. Wearables are continuing to grow in popularity. You're probably wearing one right now. Cellular technology enable compelling features exercising while you watch streams music from the cloud to your earbuds keeping in contact with others. Whatever you are checking up on children or grandparents even if they don't have a phone welcome solutions power most where west devices in a recent snapdragon wear forty one hundred platforms or designed for next generation. Lt connected smartwatches starting this holiday season but we also seemed to grow for extend extended reality or sar it includes virtual augmented and mixed reality devices that will provide the next generation device computing platform into five era. They deliver powerful new experiences that blend the physical and digital worlds. You can attend meetings or visit family. Virtually and feel like you're there in the room he can make remote location more immersive. We are a leader in exeter with more than thirty devices from leading manufacturers including oculus in microsoft with the qualcomm snapdragon. Extra two we have created the first platform to unite five g with demanding spatial requirements to take ex sar to new levels of performance devices based on xtra to will be available in the coming months in immersive sound with wireless audio is needed to go along with his experiences. Outages than ever we announce our fifth annual state of play survey of thousands of consumers around the word about their moving attitudes towards audio products. Almost half of the people surveyed said. I'll do devices are helping them while you're staying home. Due to the pandemic forty five percent said they help them be more productive to your buds are now the preferred form factor for on the go use penetration of this devices almost double in just one year and sound quality. Continues to be deleting purchase driver for consumers seventy three percent of end users are also looking to go fully wireless so in addition of sound quality their focus on extended battery life comfort in similars user. Experience another important finding is the noise cancellation is now. The fourth most wanted feature for headphones making it a key. Differentiator qualcomm portfolio smart water. Low power out products along with technologies. Like aptex adaptive or design to answer the demand for similar his high resolution. Sound and reliable connectivity in our efforts to continually innovate to improve sound quality where pleased to announce qualcomm anc designed to the lever premium noise cancellation. Our solution increases comfort by reducing the need to form a tight seal with the earbud and will dynamically adjusts when walking or running. Consumers can expect a consistent experience when listening to music making calls and using digital assistance. The way people work has changed a lot of course during the pandemic and while many will return to offices once it's all over analysts predict that almost half of office workers are likely to continue working remotely at least part time after the pandemic eighty three percent of all enterprise workload is expected to be in the cloud by the end of the year. That's a huge about this movement to the cloud isn't just business. A lot of learning has moved online as has gaming so. Rpc's are just as important as our smartphones qualcomm's amman introduced the latest iteration of their snapdragon processors. How and how much we use our devices as expending from virtual meetings to gaming using streaming platforms for entertainment and to do this ubiquitous high speed and reliable connectivity. We faster uplink is essential. Five g will be a critical part of the solution. And so we're wi fi six. We also need a new generation of devices with high quality cameras and for clear and crisp virtual presence. A i to power natural collaboration and enhance security tools. That's why we have been working closely with microsoft in other industry leaders to bring the best of smartphone computing and consumer electronics technologies and experiences to the pc. And today i'm happy to announce the qualcomm snapdragon eight. Cx gen to compute platform at seven watts. Our platform delivers fifty percents. Waiters total system performance in fifty percent better battery life than competing solutions allowing for families. Finning light design with multiple days of battery life and because speed and stability are critical for productivity. Ats gen to has blazing fast and reliable. Connectivity with five g millimeter wave sub six gigahertz and wi fi six during his e for keynote amman announced partnerships with manufacturers who are putting their snapdragon eight. 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Before the break we were highlighting nurse speech given by qualcomm present cristiano amman. So let's head back and rejoin that discussion panels. I want to start by congratulating the ricin lounge of the microsoft surface duo powered by snapdragon. What do you tell us about it. I'm pretty excited about cristiano. Thanks give you the chance. I e this combination of microsoft and androids pretty awesome. Actually if you just go back to a little bit of the history here you were you know what are the catalysts pushing for this and pretty excited to watch snapdragon. Come to life this way. We designed it. We have that design points the microsoft you love alongside the android that you know. We built it for people to be more productive more creative. We're seeing it. We're seeing it to christiana. That's pretty cool. Look as you would expect. I told you before. That's my main device now. And i'm telling you i really loved how you designed this dual screen experience. I can get outlook on one screen teams. And it's really incredible and i'm more productive of it is a whole new level of productivity. It's true like right now. I feel like we're building the future of mobile computing together. It's pretty awesome. Speaking of which is important. And while i'm passionate about duo i really am more passionate about windows coming together snapdragon. I mean it's been incredible journey together right. It's been awesome. We've got these huge milestones of surface pro x galaxy book s lenovo flex five g all these products coming out that customers are grabbing loving. We see this with instant on battery life. The idea that they that they can use these products all day but on the goal. We're seeing that. Christiano it's it's what we've been talking about and what we were pushing for and when you see customers light up and get so satisfied when they're using a product like this. It's pretty inspiring. Look i my personal experience Pence i'm being own window snapdragon. That's it as my primary device over the course of the thai your ear entire ear in the new experience. Incredible incredible but but more important is everyone that have moved to that device provided us great feedback and whenever situationally at once. You use it You you ask yourself. Why didn't i had a device like that before in terms of better lives connectivity productivity and entertainment. It's a it's really terrific. And i know there's more devices coming. Yeah you hit a great point. I mean feedbacks. They'd it's always a gift of course and that almost sounds cliche but true. You know we're always learning. We're always getting better and we're committed now more than we've ever been committed to these platforms coming together and yeah you're right these new devices. They're right in front of us. We have this momentum with our partners not only with our customers but with the partners that are building these devices. You're gonna see new designs from eastern hp today powered by snapdragon. They're awesome when customers get a range of innovation like these opportunities to pick the product you want and really that fits for your lifestyle and then get you on the go with windows and arm coming together using snapdragon eight. Cx it's been pretty pretty cool to see it happen. But i have to bring another topic. And i think that's i'm sure everyone is interest beyond devices. There's something else that were very excited about it. It's one thing that only microsoft can do and we're making incredible progress together on the app ecosystem for arm. And i know there's some new cool stuff coming to windows standard snapdragon. Can you tell everyone about it. Yeah there's a ton of stuff coming for sure. Let's just talk about the program. I i think that that would probably be the best thing you know when you talk about windows ten and what it's done for over seventy six million of our customers what you know it really brings together. The idea of taking compatibility issues having microsoft engineers engage with isv's developers at no cost and really getting those apps to sing across all of windows. We're moving the epa sure programme to all our customers using snapdragon as well. This is critical. Christiano because we want to live so many applications for consumers and commercial customers alike. It's really important for us. We're putting a lot of energy into this. There's a lot of momentum. You're going to hear brett anderson talk about this in a couple of weeks in real detail where i won't do today because of the time that we have but when aperture lights up you'll get these. Isv's engaging which i'm excited about and you know we're going now see apps come across into this ecosystem was snapdragon windows. This is a commitment that we're all in on and is super critical. We also have some amazing stuff. We're working on in windows and the future of windows and how it lights up on arm is just so powerful. And it takes your partnership and your commitment christiana which i'm grateful for and you're going to hear a lot more about this in the coming weeks but i am excited to talk about the program today and also shows the commitment of a company like microsoft for sure to the customer in the overall customer experience. Look panos microsoft has been incredible partner in. This is a situation on on those incredible devices. Even get the best of qualcomm in the best of microsoft coming together. We really look for collaborating On new devices new experiences. I think we're just the beginning of that transition. We have leadership. And i wanted also personally tell you panels. Thank you for your leadership division about doing this And above all our friendship Really appreciate Microsoft Commitment to this partnership. And we can do great things together. You know christiana. Those are super kind words and very humbling as always your gracious. I'll tell you when when we can have an impact on our customers together in a way that that helps them achieve more. It's inspiring to me and if we can continue to make products that people love and that people want we're going to make a difference in what's been able to get done and created and even connecting With each other awesome. Thanks again for coming for making our event even more special. Amman then closed his keynote. This year with a call to action saying the time has come to innovate. We can't rest now. The call is an imperative that we must answer for the good of all it's time to innovate for thirty five years. Qualcomm has been awards leading. 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I tell us what that is and then what what was shown. Well he focused. Vehicles are vehicles. That are that are all about reducing emissions right and reducing united states dependence on foreign oil Vehicles that are for the future right. Cleaner environment for everyone and sustainability is a big factor of that so hyundai has been a leader in this area for quite some time We began our our fuel cell. Hydrogen fuel cell. Rnd research about twenty years ago. Wow that's quite a while. yeah so we're definitely one. The leaders in technology and also in a veteran electric vehicles. I vehicles in plug in hybrid vehicles. We have a nice offering for our customers on the us. A very attractive Vehicles that that offer low and zero emissions. We really have been committed to to ego solutions. One of the things about hyundai is we have a full spectrum. You approach so yeah you know you have your friends and family and some are early. Adopters or eco solutions or zero emissions. And some are people who are awaiting into the water slowly. That's fine people aren't people. They have different priorities in their life. And different perspectives and our goal at hyundai is the opera solution for every consumer of hyundai product. So at the at the alleged least committed level would be hybrid customer. That'd be a person who buys a vehicle basically a low emissions very high mileage. That's what hybrids are you. Take very little to adopt your lifestyle to hype so we have our hybrid offerings in the us nada and the ionic models. And they're like. I said you buy them. You drive them. They're basically super-efficient. You don't need to change lifestyle whatsoever. It's true you're already used to putting gas in the car. Use appar apparently have to put less gas. Because you also have the option for electric. And i'm curious derek. How many people do you find are saying that. They're using more of the electric or more of the gas in a hybrid vehicle. Or is it sort of a fifty fifty kind of thing but what you chose the next category which plug in hybrid electric vehicles so hybrid vehicles generally throwing lectures from driving so they recruit wendish their lectures. You're moving and as you as you re use your regenerative braking system so again. That's part of your whole lifestyle driving. How use the accelerator and brake. And and a lot of our vehicles will have a aeko coaching. driving coach on board with With the audiovisual system and coaches. You on how you how efficient. You're driving very very good instantaneous. Realtime feedback to help you drive very efficiently. So that's a big part of. What improves your mileage. Besides the technology the plug in hybrid electric vehicle. Which you just alluded to that is really. That's the next step in commitment for nico buyer. That's the next what happens there is is i review when the enhancement of the ability to plug in at night or at your place of business. So you plug in. And you're able to get typically a lot of vehicles around twenty five miles of what they call e. v. or all electric range a all electric range so what that means is you've plugged in you into the electric grid overnight or era at work or wherever you've replenish your battery and you can drive zero emissions for twenty five miles well for people. If you're driving five days a week to work you might have been committed. It's twenty miles. You're urinating zero emissions that whole time because you're using only emissions generated from the electric grid and you're not using your electric motor. Gasoline engine onward. So that's the next level of commitment and eco solutions. That's that's pretty cool and of course if you can then charge while at work as you mentioned then to and from its zero emissions and you've got to feel good about that about hyundai's performance en brand what is that about. Yeah so the end brand now. This is the other side of the spectrum. this is four driving enthusiasts and with passion for driving enjoyment. It really is a true performance brand where we are investing considerable money to make very exciting Enjoyable track day type vehicles that can sustain a track use or without overheating in any way most vehicles if you take him to a track of energetic weekend you're going to cause problems with the vehicle overheating or transmission brakes etc. These vehicles are engineered to be sustainable at the track. And so that's part of the the end brand. You can drive all day all week. I know province a nice commuter vehicle etc but also has considerable performance for people like you across it on the weekends Really enjoyed driving really enjoyed going into the mountains may drive the twist so these are people that quite concerned about the about Saving fuel although although they're all very efficient vehicles for the performance level but they're a little more passionate about vehicles and realizes that there's there's fires from every spectrum right so you've got people who are committed to ego solutions and people love to drive and so we want need all of these different needs in terms of passenger volume cargo volume and the type of powertrain is gonna meet their lifestyle and it sounds like is doing just that so certainly keep that good work. Hey derek if you don't mind let me interrupt a little bit here. 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And i would imagine my next several as well so now when you talk about a dedicated hydrogen-powered suv wondering how that got so much attention. Well you hit on many many important points about the next though. So that is our hero. Eco vehicle okay. Hydrogen elected because their electric vehicles electric motors on that generate their power real time on demand. So they don't store all their lectures they make it on board via a power plant on board take hydrogen process of electronic. They create that lectures. The real time on demand as you need it. So when you push the pedal you're going to start that process and you're gonna generate electricity. That's to go into electric motor and go down the road. They have tremendous range. Our next so suv has arranged zero emissions range of three hundred eighty miles while net. Yeah so it's got a great great solution and that You've got the flexibility to live your life pretty convenient length. Another benefit of the a hydrogen electric vehicles is the refueling steve. So it's very comparable to gasoline refueling speed so when you go to a station. That has both hydrogen and and gasoline. You're going to be able to reveal in about the same time as gasoline. It's five minutes or so so very quick. And yet you have this great energy density which means that you're gonna be able to have a long range so it's a great solution. We have forty two stations in california. And we've got a lot of next on the road Enjoying that so that's very committed. Eagle lives what we like to talk about holidays. We're the only hydrogen-fuel-cell suv in the us. Okay yes there are competitors make fine products but there's a dance and people want us be just like you said families want suv's and so we are the only one in the next really very well engineered product for reliable pleasant drive wyatt luxurious etc. Looks really good. A lot of people really loved the styling. So we're really really proud of our next. Oh and Again it's at the other side of that aeko spectrum. Yeah no doubt and and the long range is important because while there are you mentioned. I think thirty four hydrogen facilities. There's not that many even in california let alone the rest of the country yet Do you expect to see that more going to jump on that and start stocking hydrogen for you to be able to refuel or they're not enough car. Manufacturers like yourselves that are committed to it To to warrant that at gas stations or hydrogen stations right. This is a decades long chicken and egg question. I would say the manufacturers are on board because our products are very very good and and our competitors so honda. They make very fine products as well. So they're utterly reliable convenient nice drive-by driven than tun's there. There's really no problem with the products. The vehicles They can meet a lot of consumers needs. The stations are two major hubs in southern california and northern california around the bay area so those are building It's around forty two stations currently in a lot more in development that are getting through all the permitting process. that's exploit pretty quickly to fifty sixty and the state of california has considerable lawns and grants and promotion legislative promotion of these. It joel so you're going to see these stations growth. The most likely areas where hydrogen is going to grow our these zeph states dates zero emission states those that are really focused on zero emissions and these types of solutions and those are basically the west coast and the east coast area and so california's your first area. The next big growth area that you will see will be a new york massachusetts connecticut. This this area visit because they've adopted the zeph standard zero emissions and require certain amount of vehicles to be zero emissions that will be the next bigger if growth. there are some obstacles to that in terms of They have a lot of rules about the bridges and their cuddles and so the industry is working hard to meet those requirements. And i'm assuming there's no real safety issue with hydrogen. Has that been a concern. Hydrogen is very very safe. East vehicles meet. We have on our website hunting. Us dot com. We've got vehicles the the nitsa crash test and basically The vehicle completely safe for the most stringent government crash tests. You can see them live online and the vehicle has huge crumple-zones as able to protect the tank areas. The tanks are so strong. What happens in a crash even a very severe crash. What happens is it takes her so robust that whole area rounded crushes before it gets the tank so You know just absorb all that energy. It really can't get to area where it has that kind of Kind of ability so They need all of the crash departments as a gasoline vehicle. Gasoline has considerable energy to so although we're used to gasoline. Gasoline is a bolthole energy in it. We built modern cars very safe. You're able to drive a gasoline vehicle with very little concern about about safety because how steak there and the same is true for for hydrogen. They meet all federal armies very easily. Well congratulate you guys keep making the cool vehicles and keep doing the hybrids and plug ins and the things that folks are looking for these days and we'll keep talking about him. I would look forward to getting back on the show again soon because there is that much more to talk about and of course hyundai always coming out with new products to discuss senior manager for product and advanced powertrain. Love that title. It's on your business card right now for for hyundai motor. 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A i. infrastructure and course materials architecture and design and This seems to be very attractive. Former like epa as a whole shift had to rethink their event this year to find a way to not only hold the in person event but open it up to those of us who for one reason or another couldn't make the trip to berlin. I think you have to have an human attitude so the human has to come first and this is a specialist situation. We have a lot of expedient with zoom with a teams with with google hangout. But people need people and if he is so excellent because the people need to talk physically and personally to each other so it's very very important. A lot of what could be referred to as disruptive talk came out of shift this year by that we mean ideas to totally change the way we think about the future of mobility from our perspective. We're talking about the entire mobility ecosystem and we think especially these days to need to combine the topics sustainability digitisation mobility and urban infrastructure. Any new in it inspiring way in if you do that something new something inspiring and this is exactly what the market needs in these days while shift partners with berlin at ifa. They actually have a much further. Reach on one. Inch shift is based on three pillars. On one hand we do have a curated exhibition. Redo have second our convention and third. We do have our own content and Shift mobility here at i in our main event and besides that we have four to six small events if for example at the south by an allston or as as movie in delano because architecture admitted they very important for us and they say they have heard great things from attendees at this year's event the feedback from our pop unfunded jaundice is excellent more than one thousand five hundred journalists are participating physically i livestream and for most of them as i said great jamait event ends a first step and going back to business that was hans hammers. Ceo of shift mobility very important cool aspect of and how they were able to put some really cool talks together this year in person as well as virtually during the special edition and i like how he mentioned. This is the first step to getting back to business. Because that's what we're all trying to do now is just back to business Desperately trying to get back to business and we will. It'll happen. 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Maybe this podcast is influenced me a little bit as well get loft lost everybody up here. Every single day goes into the office into the laboratory. Try to cook up some great stuff for you guys. That's why he's here From new york new york you are listening to extra time driven by continental from my apartment in bed. Stuy brooklyn i'm andrew. We'd be with my partners in soccer. Mattdoyle david goss kaelin car. Another night of the audi twenty twenty. Mls cup playoffs another night past midnight another night with our best friend. The brown he was going here on these these late nights these delirious nights these wonderful knights three games tonight. Of course the top seed in the eastern going down down down down down in seattle sounders going right where we expected them to be which is right back to him less cup. It seems they are now officially the famous. We're going to talk to matt turner. We're gonna talk. The dax mccarty again because nashville did it again. And charlie davies is not here to answer for that though he picked it. So i mean he's played like the ultimate mind game with everybody on this one. How are your audi bracken challenges right now by the way minds. Busted minds kabui. It's like you know it's basically like every single march for me. I picked kansas all the way. And then after the second round. I'm just like twiddling my thumbs. I had the union. That didn't work out for me very well did it. How's it going guys. How your passions. I had philly in the final as well. I thought i went fairly bullish and got columbus in an eastern conference final false. I chickened out at the last second input toronto in that game so my bracket is officially done. Thank you i'm doing. I'm doing okay on the west coast. I i mean i. I've lost the portland one but otherwise I'm doing all right in the west on the east did have new england over philly. David i did. But i also had toronto going back to mls cup. I had another seattle toronto. Matchup melas cup. So that's that's out the window. A marketing ahead toronto. Winning it to better for that. We're all in one another seattle toronto so this works out mine may be busted but i'm willing to sacrifice myself so we don't have to endure the same thing over and over and over. I think at a certain point of every. Mls cup playoffs. You begin to just throw it out the window and you say i picked the sounders to win at all. I feel good about that. The rest of the bracket is who cares. There's nothing left in it. It's all meaningless No i i just think yeah. It's tonight was the night where of went a little bit haywire I mean the playoffs overall have been wild An unexpected but generally it seemed like the teams would have expected found a way to win This went the other direction. Most notably with the supporters shield winners Philly for for me. Big shock from and i told the pre-game the ribs with He'll are completely different team. You didn't listen. You didn't listen. I didn't this quarter shield all year the last decade so i figured it actually would mean something when it came to the parallel not right in the end the thing is that back in the door was you know. He's a red bulls metrostars guy so he kind of understands a connection between supporters shield and the not getting denies moment when i rooted for that team. They didn't win. Nothing's changed not in changed all right. Let's let's get into it. We do have the schedule now. Going into the let's see. The conference. semifinals four teams in each conference. Standing on sunday you have. The eastern conference orlando new england on abc at three pm eastern columbus in nashville going to do their thing on espn at eight pm eastern on tuesday seattle dallas at best one nine thirty pm eastern wednesdays sporting kansas city minnesota also. Nfs one at nine pm eastern port this on all those the ones that are abc news fox deportes on the tuesday win games on f s one then of course tsn entebbe candidates. Have all of these games Before we get the dax before we get to matt turner. Let's talk about this game. We just finished watching. There is the we burn the midnight oil on the east coast. Seattle are the favorites. Now i think you can say that without any doubt in your in your mind you are all. Skc's the number one seed. Don't never one's deeds still in and now seattle's the fatal coma was was inside the house whole starting share neil in the playoffs. Your favourite. That's just the way i was inside a besieged castle. And you and charlie and everybody else on the outside just chuck and boulders. I mean i was just trying to defend myself and defend my family's slash. Somebody who i know. City i look. I just had a defense when he can't seabiscuit seattle. Come on regular season. Throw out the window. It gives the this point. It is the sounders favorites three one against l. now. Afc of course did not have half their squad. Thanks to pin reported coverted. And what we've heard from many others whether that's de rossi or brian rodriguez or if wednesday's or palacios all of them out regardless even if they had been there i don't know if carlos vela despite missing a pk and arrest are able to overcome nico and jordan rhodesia's and gianpaolo the road on brothers and everyone else becomes on our gamers for the sounders. We meet they were. They were favorites to begin with. I know you into the playoffs and like when you see portland. The way they were banged up Sporting yes the top seed but you know really had to fight against San jose even find a way through and then now you see the supporters shield winners philly going out toronto. Going now orlando going without guy yesterday. I mean this is lined up pretty. I mean i would say you can't say anything in analyst cup playoff so straightforward. But i felt better about the sounders and picked them to begin with. And you have to say coming out of this week. How much better. In clear path it is forward for them to go back and defend their time. Caroline like give you the sounders verses the field right now. He had taken sounders. Yeah i probably would have taken that to begin within the plant. Everything i've seen like i even on top of it. I i thought for especially when you look at tonight's match i thought especially the places where l. Afc have been weak or have been hurt in the past has been at that in that back line and specifically on that right hand side and when you look at some of the sound strengths most most notably jordan morris and the way they were able to kind of stretch them out. If you look at the first goal it goes they. They begin to move side to side or ideas comes across placing across the back backhoes. And then you see jordan way back to guess who ladera and then later on the one that ended up clinching it for you know for for sure was a jordan getting in behind again i mean he just he just makes this Attack just so much more dynamic. That threatened behind the composure. I mean whether it's the outside of the right foot the left foot. Whatever it is. I mean even the past that he has Through that darrow scores. That goes off the post. Brilliant pass I think he's been one of the best players in molest the season and when it comes to playoff time he seems to always find another level in his game. he's better than carlos. Vela is and i that before the two that i thought velo was look not his best at which is still better than most and still better than almost anybody else in the league but just lacking a little bit of game sharpness. I thought this game came a little bit too early for elliot went through going to very serious face. I was like he's talking about too much. Yeah i was gonna say we were not look for for honors is just got to be feeling very satisfied right now to watch this with producing unders is sort of a lesson in endurance. I would both you have to get through it and you have to endure a lot. What did they show you tonight against. Look honestly a banged up. La of seaside doyle. The makes you believe as kaelin point out. Seattle was missing finished. Starters in this game very seattle is arguably missing more starters in this than l. Afc were so that is this is this was a show of their dads their ability to beat teams in different ways. I don't know if that's true but from different people Low darrow's just pure ability to cover every inch of the field and be a factor is a main kaelin. Men's in jordan morris taking it to another level in the playoffs but re diaz i think is one of the two or three best in the box strikers enamels a when he steps outside the box increase chances like he did for the low daryl then he puts himself into another stratosphere match what he did last year in the postseason. He did it again this year guys. He has played seven postseason games. He has a goals in six assists. Seven postseason games. it's a career. That's a that's that's like if you had that as a lead the line number nine for a good team over the course of ten years you really that guy. That guy's really nice playoff resume. He's done that in two and a half years. It's insane yeah. He's phenomenal and maher's been huge for them to allow them to only give up one goal against an opponent. Starting shane o'neill at centreback. A lot of that falls to his ability to hold. That back lineup knew who made a couple mistakes. Alex role dom starts at right back. So as a whole change. Miss mass mishmash whatever. It is modular hodgepodge and mars able to hold a lot of it together for them which is huge for seattle. So i thought the big thing was going to be the the lack of gustaf's fencing in central midfield because he he was with sweden captains reading this past week and then he wasn't able to get back in time to play this game get out of quarantine. It pushed christian role dawn back into central midfield. And let's let's run that clip if you have it. Cued up the The first goal that seattle gordon. This right here show so much. What christian don is good at watches. Reaction as the ball is turned over. He's two steps faster than latif blessing. Mark anthony kate that he makes a hard direct running occupies three l. Afc defenders that completely opens a top of the box for ladera. It also gives morris a little bit of room to hit that pullback and put it right on seattle's ability to lose is like svensson like damn like arriaga and still function at a level like this. It's remarkable it. It's absolutely remarkable. I'm with kaelin. Man you give me saunders versus a field right. Now i'm taking the sounders Remember we are on youtube as well after all of these nights of playoff action. So if you wanna see what doyle is talking about instead of imagining it just come hang out with us at like what one zero four. Am eastern if you're the pacific coast. You're good if you're and there's also carries with the internet where you could watch it later. Yes genital load beautiful. But i during the game. We were joking around talking but criminal. Don's going to be in every. Us national team cam from here on out because he plays three positions at a minimum a loves. The team he works are all the things you want on a guy to make a roster like. He is a eighteen to twenty three tournament roster player at his core. And i think he's gonna captain seattle sounders at some point like he's been there. He's done everything for this team. He's gotten better every single year. He's been there and he continues to up every time yes to play right back does that first segment and he gets back into central midfield and they asked him play right midfield. He does at a high level in a playoff game. You need him to start back at midfield he does that at a high level is everything's seattle's asset it's it's worth it to contextualize it again. Seattle was without gustaf svensson. Who kept into the sweden national team in an international this past like that's legit top fifteen or twenty team in the world there. Captain plays for the seattle sounders. He was not able to to play in this game. Cristian roldan just slides back into that. Even play all year slides right back into central midfield and he breaks the game open by winning fifty fifty and then making just a perfect cerebral run that opens up the game and once it was one nil you had one more moment doubt when stephane prime makes a save on the penalty then it felt like it was all seattle that boy. What do you see from jordan morris right now taken like this is the sort of game at his absolute best and this is what i say and think to myself. Guys unstoppable. I mean there are times when he looks more human but in a game like this. It just looks inevitable. He's going to get two goals. He's going to set up three or four huge chances his ability with the pullbacks over the last year and a half two years. I mean he is not only one of the best goal scores and open space in. Mls but now he's one of the best chance creators as well. I mean it's it's so hard to contain him. Yeah the development in his game over. The years has been amazing. I think he had a lot of nate qualities to begin with Obviously most notably the speed and an ability where i think early on your just. He jumps off the page. And you're like this guy is very unique and could play against any competition in the world and give them legit problems But you would say maybe okay. Maybe as a super sub in certain situations than it was like no. It's a starter. And then it was like if he just apps finishing piece and then finishing piece came and then the clutch piece came in the playoffs. And then now. It's gotten to the point where i feel like it's so you know he. He makes the right decisions all the time. Whether it's to go one on one drag it to the unlined cut inside to lay it off to find the backpost and finished with. So you're like what what's next for this guy and I look at it and he landed a little bit in an in between generation of swear. Now you see all of the young players that have gone abroad and playing champions league football and all that jordan morris could do that he is. He is of that quality in compla- at that level. No doubt he's just in a good situation where it's like. Why would you stop this right now. You're you're scoring goals you're winning. Titles you're doing it. You're pushing on in. And his level is improving as well too. I do wonder at some point just for the national team is he is curious like how many more titles in this bit premature right now. Because he's in the middle of another title run. What what looks like to be another one right now but but i just can't help but watch him and see it starting to look He's dominant right now. It it's dominant. And i'm like what. What's the next level for this guy because he's still twenty five years old I think there's scarily they're still another level for him to come doesn't mean it's been amazing remember landed and went to everton on loan and like he won player of the player of the month to month two months in a row at sanity like them in assists for the year. Despite only playing for two it feels like if jordan morris could end up having that kind of loan to a team either germany or or made the premier league at some point. But for now you hit it. He's he keeps raising his level and he did it for the national team last year as well and it's not just putting up numbers. It's finishing with his left foot hitting passes that i had no idea were in his bag. It's changing his body shape as he receives the ball to be a little bit more It's wrote throw defenders off a little bit more lou more allusive rather than just speed and power And it is. It's been fun to watch. And and he deserves a ton of credit for becoming this type of player because it would have been very easy for him to be like no. I'm just going to be great white guy and he's still would have been like twelve goal year type of player the way. This guy did his acl and had a pretty. That's a pretty serious injury. But for a player with the i mean he's still blowing people on the hitch and i think just from having gone through this myself and and having a bit of pace at some point that like i felt like the best part of my career came afterwards and part of that was because you just gain this different perspective and even if it's like you don't need to beat a guy by twenty yards might beat them by in his case ten minute maybe two and a half but i mean he he just i think he's got a level of like standing or the game slow down for him some at least from a mental perspective whereas The physical attributes are definitely still there. Meanwhile a team nagoya darrow. Who at whatever his age is. I mean thirty. Plus whatever what. He's thirty two thirty three now. Dowries at thirty one. Yeah i mean it doesn't matter. He's he's ageless the amount of running he does. We've talked about on the show. He led the league in distance covered per game. It seemed like at the end of the regular season. Maybe he lost just a little bit in a tank and that was not the case john. Hey it's the seattle. Seattle took their foot off the gas for about six weeks to close out the season. They had a really strong run out of a poor. Mls is back tournament to kind of reestablish themselves and then they just relaxed and i what's amazing about what this club has done over the last few years is no one was panicked about it. No one talked about it. No one cared because you knew what happened tonight would happen in two kaelin on you knew seattle was gonna come in and they were going to be comfortable in the playoffs. They were gonna hit the ground running and they were gonna play the way they wanted to play. And it was the entire club. 'cause jordan morris the same on most people's best elevens and he also went quiet over the last six or so weeks. Ruidiaz had to go away for internationals. Enc as much from him. All of these things happen and then this team hit the ground running today immediately and it doesn't matter for them they know exactly what the moment is exactly what they wanna do. And it's amazing because they can do it year after year when most teams couldn't do that once but they did a different way to and the shift or me was like there was a lot of conversation last year where it was like well. Seattle can't go down to l. afc and play an open match. Some of that got turned into a whole other thing of like should they have what whatever that means and it was like. I thought if this game got stretched and went open you going to see. That wasn't going to be a good recipe for l. afc I thought the sounders would blow that one out and when you look at the way l. Afc came out and played. They were a little bit more in amid block. They weren't necessarily full out. You know the general high press l. Afc system where we see them just warming teams and going from there and they were going to go and that was a. That was a different situation from last year to this year. And i think part of it came down to just the health and overall state of where elliott sita's right now and the attack specially of of sounders. And how they they were on. Also there's basically what before we preview the seattle dallas game and get on of course to phillies loss in new england's triumph. In nashville. Doing their thing in proven. Everybody wrong again talk l. Afc real quick. I mean they were hamstrung. That damage has been clear for basically a week and a half as they dealt with all the sort of all. The issues had with guys on international duty in nba not medically cleared to play for this game. So chris is the youngest player to start an almost playoff game. Gets the start for bob bradley and dave. You made a joke during the rose rewatching. he's just a an observation. You called his game last year and it was u fifteen's is that what you said you fifteen got says. Nineteen i call the fifteen game with. Kirsten tore playing. Entertain us playwright. They call you fifteen games. Now you do you know why kaelin. Within twelve months. They're playing in atmosphere. Yeah rex player kids. Yeah what happened here for l. afc oil. What should bob bradley take from this. Is this a big disappointment. This sort of just a man. I mean that's just kind of the way the cookie crumbles in two thousand twenty s. I think it's it's probably more the second thing. But i'm sure it's a. It's a huge disappointment because last year in this game l. Afc played really poorly. I didn't think they played poorly in this one. They just played. It is sandra team. That was i mean this game from the sounders was almost impeccable And i mean the fact is that l. Afc just got outplayed. And the the decision making part of it for llc. It revolves around rosie and rodriguez. The weren't obviously weren't on the field tonight but are important players and potentially twenty million dollars sales overseas. And i think you probably have to take vat and then start again with different winger but then the the real one for me is because they were helpless this year avesta was hurt not available. When he kicked got back healthy again france. I mean they never hit the heights that they did last year but they were really good team the last month and a half two months of the season so they have to figure out if he's going to go if he does go they have to figure out how to replace because it was like carlos vela wasn't the mvp of the team in terms of value. Right the most valuable player for how elliot wanted to play was at to us. And so that is a huge. I mean that's a huge decision. They have to make this winter because we can all see at west is a brilliant player. He has a lot of interest from teams in la liga syria in particular. They're gonna get an offer some point that they probably have to say us to. And that's the future of this league. We hope is young players coming performing elevating their teams and then those teams being in a position where they have to make tough decisions in the to balance you know the income side. The success i team side as well as the ambitions of their players. That you don't wanna stand in the way of this isn't a lot of ways a really disappointing year relative. See because of the vela injury because of what everyone went through because the results just weren't at the level that they had last year where it seemed like. Oh my god juggernaut like this is going to be the team that seizes mls and becomes the team and yet here we are again talking about the set take winner out of any team and then take your golden boot winner from last year and give them ninety minutes of run before you get to your first round match up to go on the road against the defending champs then take out to center meadville left like to go through that And yes i know sounders mystery aga and fencing but to me. I'm like yeah. I just think this game came too early for elliot. See if they were to have if they wouldn't have given up that ninetieth minute goal in the last decision day and they had a different match up to begin this this playoffs and they got the sounders in round two around threes. And i think you'll if she could have won that match. I there is no doubt about. Its me that elliott ac- could have gone onto that and gone on to win. Emily that's small margins are especially this year and how important i think every year layoffs are about form fitness around playoffs every year as a long slog. This year literally went in twenty minutes. I it was twenty minutes to start twenty minutes in the middle a break another start another. Stop another star and international play threw a wrench in things as well so for elliot's z. i just felt like it was just the wrong day of the week and the guys just were not at full strength to to even try and do this as i thought sounders i under the head but i was like if the if you could get past this match. We might be saying the exact same thing about them. Are they now the favorites from lescot. Because i felt like this match was that's partly why it was so highly anticipated was whoever came out of this was likely one to go on and potentially going well for abc's not over the trophy chase. Yeah hockey caf champions league. You might have forgot and we did it. But it's coming up after months cup in december. So prepare for that one. Rosie get rodriguez get palacios healthy win. Cc l. ri- make mls history. And then have bob bradley. Come drop the mic right. Asked if i'm here for the narrative we all need now. I'm also here for seattle dallas from last playoffs to be reincarnated in this playoff. You remember the walker zimmerman game two in two thousand sixteen. I think it was on adults way. That was one of the best point here where you've ever seen dempsey. I think got a red card against dallas. one time that's where mara has got injured. These clubs always find each other over the last five years and there's always fireworks when it's always awesome tuesday episode one nine thirty pm eastern fox deportes Of course unless soccer dot com your home for all the information all the listings. Everything you need to know ahead of these playoff matchups. What are we thinking about. What's different this year doyle than last year. What are the big story lines. What of the matchups. What's the managerial sort of head to head for For seattle vs dallas. Yes sorry i think the the head to head aspect of it is going to be does dallas feel comfortable dropping everybody behind the ball because the only time seattle really really struggled this year when they had a full team was against portland when portland scored an early goal. And then just said okay. We're gonna bucker we're going to. We're going to put everybody in the box. Go ahead and try to beat us in seattle's only way of trying to beat. That was crossing the ball. Forty five times. I mean they literally cross the ball forty five times right into the thick of portland bunker the last time these two teams played d. Dallas are really good defensive team. I think that their best chance is going to be doing exactly that. I so i expect dallas digest bunker encounter in. It's going to be on. The owners is going to be on seattle to carry the game. Kaelin kaelin doesn't want it now. They're they're gonna play because look what they did last year in the playoffs against seattle. They i i went to Down team but i went to dallas before they before they went played that match. I remember talking to lucia about our. He was talking about. Are we going to sit back and go or are we going to actually try and go head to head and they went toe to toe and yes. Everybody remembers the llc seattle match as sort of the pinnacle match of the playoffs last year leading to mls cup but nobody gave them a tougher task and that Dallas team in that in that first round. And so have you gone there and done that. And then you've gone against portland on the road and beat them but they didn't come out and play them say bunkered and against portland. They waited them out. They brought peppy on late. They scored a goal in one in penalty. Kicks is not really doing in dallas. Didn't do anything for seventy five minutes. I would. I would be i would. Here's what i would like to see. I would like to see them. Start peppy and test men and put both of them from the start and play aggressive band. Your kids guy. Getting played at their performance. I feel like those who deserved it. And you ride the hot hand. I think those those kids already They've proven net. Neither of them looked overawed by any of the situation. And i i would be look at just as a fan. I wanna to go against sounders. I wanna see these teams go head to head just for the home as i have to mention bro. Jazz golden boot. Watch for the homie. Rigo the peruvian squad. I don't know why he keeps telling me to say that but he told me to sit on the show. So i said it. I didn't understand that didn't where that was gone. And why was going there. But i do want to see as much ricardo peppy as possible in these playoffs. We'll see if we get that on tuesdays. Our host cardo pappy. Yeah yeah. I mean i guess he did kinda he was he was a partner in soccer won fairly he is a partner in soccer he can have that title no doubt about it tuesday so they get a little bit of arrest. That's a full week for them. As opposed the eastern conference. Which i guess based on when they play they do get a full week to it's late. We're figuring this out as we go new england six times the charm bay four losses and a draw doesn't matter begin. Have the shield. The union can new england march and on. We got got a leg. Skype charlie in for this segment like both matches. We gotta just like get him. Throw him in okay. Was this the film producer. Honors is corrosion fifth game. Yes it's three winter. Draw for philly gonna trust and bruce. Arena's numbers bruce didn't know he was. He's not an analytics guy. In lititz is for people who don't know how to watch soccer. Exactly well you know. He's gone in the back of the net to goes the union score. None we're moving on. Bruce arena the new england revolution. By the bruce miked up in this game was the low key star of the whole thing and he wasn't keeping it wasn't like complicated kaelin straightforward. And what he was telling his players he wasn't messing around. I mean everybody. T- i mean we were joking about the analytics and all that but but i i really do think that the play really come down to small margins and that's a cliche and everybody says it but It comes down to a little bit of you know. Can you finish your chance And minimizing risks at set-pieces by the way they got on top of that one but yeah even a lot of the information that he was giving was like when a tackle put in play back to the keyboard. Don't just food if like keep possession like these. These are very simple things but they add up and in any playoff matchup played in. Its you think the boss going out of bounds. There's a little fifty fifty tackle as we just saw right there. That was lost. That's the difference between your season is over. Congratulations the Nuts it silver. And so i i thought it was actually really interesting to listen to bruce sort of yelling at his own team for most of the match from the sideline and kinda riding them. He was a very you know he was. He was on it and none of the. None of conversation was super abstract or complicated. It was really about trying to make sure you take care of the little details and making sure those guys did. They did big how to do it. I mean at set pieces. Somebody's gotta mark. Adam buca been. I don't know how he got free but he peeled off somebody and he was wide open. Basically at the six easy header. And then kobe's he'll chris. Chances fantasia cannon left kyw wagner. You know. I don't know back all game. We talk about don jordan morris. Their improvement tastes buchanan. Played right back for the first time in his career four days ago. This is what i would imagine kaelin with looked like right back by the way last game and ham contract coming for kaelin. Let's go just wants young american canadian. No he's from brampton. I think yeah male rampton kids gonna suffer from the big brampton and always killing and brampton. It's like you know peas. In a pod he also went to syracuse. they always step up in that movement. Episode pleasure david. I stepped on your bed. What we save sorry. I was just saying his improvement from one game to two games at that position because he filled the right spots last game a missed on almost every cross. He didn't make the right decision. He looked a little tentative in the final third. Got hurt came off in this game. I mean he beats Vagner and scores the goal. Great of besides that. He filled the spots again and gustavo. Bose always gonna float and carlos heels gonna pick up that space sometimes but otherwise. Whoever's back hasa fill that channel and has opportunities do and that's what they wanted from you can't last time and they got it from him today. I just think the step up from two games within space of four days is impressive from that young client can just go ahead. We'd be no. I was gonna say if you have. Sometimes we can throw it in there. Because i was gonna turn to the union because i know we're going to celebrate the reds. We're gonna preview that and talk about them but this is the supporters shield winners that went out with like last than a whimper in a lot. Well let me let me show you how 'cause i we. We painted a couple of clips. And when you're playing a team in the four four two diamond which is what the union play. You have to blow up the you have to make it defend wide. And this is what the that's matt holster. Central midfielder dropping. Alway touchline. This is carlos hill. Who is a winger. Nobody goes with them. Nobody puts pressure on the ball and that allows the revs to run in behind. No mark mckenzie makes a playwright here but it puts the revenue position where they can immediately press. Make it difficult for the union to play out. They turn the ball over. They win his set piece. After this has taken adam books was in the back of the net. Now here's the second goal again. The reds make them defend why they've drawn four union players over to the sideline that allows he'll to to slip inside and become a ten remember as a winger and that gives all that room to buchanan for the overlap puts wagner position where he has to make a play and he does not. So it's all about the reds blowing up the union shape. I love the diamond midfield. But like if you if you allow your opponent to make you while you're playing a diamond then it's just like men. It's it's not gonna work out for you and on the other. One is winning your individual duels. The reds got a masterpiece from carlisle to assist. They embu abo- was quiet but they got a goal from from adam books. Those are the case. What what it philadelphia. Best union best players do. They didn't like brennan aaronson. Basically didn't show up for this game. Show bilko was. I mean he was a nonfactor. Jose martinez was subbed at the half. L. hundred. I had a pretty poor game. That's the that's the story of the playoffs right there. If you have a good tactical plan and then your best players play well. And he'll he's not with daryl level but he's close. You're gonna win the game and that's what the reg did and they deserved it. What are they thinking in that locker room. Jim curtain the union ceylan after having such a massive high and in some ways almost felt like watching this game it was like oh man maybe they were spent after that. Maybe they didn't have it emotionally like the desire or whatever it was because this is not the way we saw the play almost the entire year. They would not have won the support. This was how they played on a regular basis. We'll can i ask you a question. I 'cause i missed the first fifteen twenty minutes watching the other match an extra time. What what what happened was nearly it was like they were they. Were just hold to begin with are today with the same energy like what what happened in the beginning of this match philly came out and they had early chance from montero and once he missed that it looks like their shoulders slumped a little bit or they i. I don't know his shoulders slumping but it was almost like okay. We'll find more. Don't worry about it. Like they didn't play with enough i musical shaded but they they didn't seem to have the same amount of intensity of the mouth it and the rest were able to jump on that Control the game. Once they were able to control the game the make that midfield big in wide and find space for guys like he'll especially and that was that was a ballgame. I will say ben bear. Put this out there on twitter. Shout out to the legend guarantee and he compared it to the red bulls from twenty fifteen sixteen of you have your model that you play all regular season and it will create chances at some point and you know it'll work in. The playoffs are so different and the rebels. Were never able to figure out how to win the small big moments and change things at the right time and ceylan. You know better than anyone in the playoffs. It's just about winning a certain specific battle and that one moment to get you over the edge because it's just one game and that's kind of what philly looked like which we didn't expect because of what they did last year and because of the way they finish this year it felt like the young guys or whatever was the group in general understood the intensity needed to win these moments. And what this would mean. And it sounded like Casali marino and adrian healey reference there conversations with jim curtin a few times that jim curtin was worried about this about the layoff about a team. That was coming off short rest which we didn't know how it would be handled the plane game. But we've seen over the course of history because he used to be playing game into a two leg series that teams ride that momentum in that hot hand in feel that playoff intensity that philly just never was able to match that in to join us point. I think it's confidence in the group that they weren't worried or panicked or rushing at any point until the seventy fifth eightieth minute but you have to recognize at some point that you're playing at an average level down to zero in a playoff game and they never did and i would also say that knowing was best players better than phillies if you have the three best players on the field. You're probably gonna be favorites. But don you're coming out there. I saw you early on twitter and say yeah i. I'm doing my head. And i'm like you're like oh well. This team would have been a supporter. Shield they were always the better team. And i'm like wait. Well i didn't. I didn't say they would win. The supporters shield. I said that. The the revs with a fully healthy team would be favorites for me because they're more talented The over a over a fully healthy philadelphia team full round talented artist. Matchwinners think it's more talented one one through fourteen. Maybe i think could maybe go one through twenty a little bit better. And that's the thing you need one through twenty five really to win supporter shield. You need a certain mentality to win a supporters. Shield being able to bring that week after week as as a fan is someone who has spent time in the in the stands that is the most like that is the most wonderful thing to give your fans eight straight months of a great sire. Save baby girl. She's a software. Sales guys tweeted out hall for our brackets in a picture together and all four of us picked against them up. Willie he just seems like watching this this right now. Probably just like i'm at the spike for those guys out. I i thought. I had picked the your kid trust worthy. Doyle says about his picks now until forever. He just very convenient. He's a fat oil salesman. We'd be. I will say i didn't see the beginning of the match but i do think if you look at the eastern conference and he look at toronto and you look at the union today. Those are the teams that had to go against teams already had already played a plant match. And i've played in played in matches not exactly played with ten teams in the playoffs. But you get that first match and you get that playoff sweat and you get a ninety fifth minute gustavo winner or you get a three no win At home and it just it gives you a different sense heading into that next match. And i don't care if you on decision day. That could feel like a lifetime ago. And i don't care if you've been undefeated at home you haven't played a match in a little while and another team has played a doer. Di situation so. I don't think i've always felt this way. In past years in formats in home and away legs. It doesn't matter. I think sometimes when you a very dangerous on the eastern conference and it didn't exist in the west was that If you would have seen san jose maybe play a play in match to get in could have maybe given them a little bit of that small edge to get over or in kansas city or if you would have seen colorado when that first match before they went into a minnesota would they have been a little bit sharper in front of net. Maybe maybe that would have made a little bit of a difference. And i think we saw that in the eastern conference where the teams with the higher seeds. Yes great congratulations. You had a great season. You've won the supporters shield. But you didn't play in a situation. Where every single pass could have been the end of your season and the other team just two or you didn't get over the top of that and win in a situation where you were able to get through a match. That had those types of steaks. And you're ready from from the jump. So i i didn't i fifty minutes match of the philly game but When you look at overall. I think those playing matches clearly gave those teams some type of momentum heading into this round just for a little bit to be like philly were spent. There was a lot that was sort of put into that shield run and in particular the final day the regular season decision day and a win that they had to get in the win that they got and sort of the celebrations afterwards in the feeling of accomplishment. I'm not saying they like lay down rolled-over instead we made it it's all good now. I'm just saying they were prepared. They weren't as prepared as the reservoir Before we get to matt turner and what he thought about this game in the revs. Chances going forward. What did this loss mean. For the twenty twenty union season how will they compartmentalize and contextual allies. Their accomplishments ultimately this failure with a huge opportunity. I think there's a few ways this can go. One is on at times you look at areas and when we talk about the sounders right in this time period you don't specifically hit on the wins and losses it's the trophies overall of this group generation mark mckenzie brenden. Aaronson are gone. And you don't know what other pieces are coming back if this is it for philly then. It's this massive opportunity miss because they want supporter shield that they could have made. Mls cup run. If they bring through paxton and senator. Jake mclennan whoever else and jake jacob. Glass ness is it takes over as the dominant back and they continue to take steps and they're competitive in winning trophies over the next three or four years. I think it's the start of a golden generation like for toronto making mls cup in twenty sixteen with such a huge deal. We don't really point on the fact that they lost it because then they want next year and doubles and trebles and all that stuff so those are the ways. It could go for philly. Because i still think the soccer they played this year. We'll stand out forever At a high level and what they did a club with their ethos with what they wanted to be and the way they played they will always remember. And i think we will always remember. I don't think it'll go down as an opportunity. Because i think they're going to continue to be competitive. We'll see what happens with mark mckenzie. We know that this was it. For brenden aaronson in philadelphia in the small town of elmira new york. 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But i will take this vote will use it as we move forward and In will just keep we'll keep going hopefully to the cup. One of the things we all thought would be a huge factor. Is this short layoff. While the top two seeds were going to be able to rest and get ready. Both the top two seeds lost tonight. How did we get that so wrong. Was it energy was at flow. What went really even know that the other results just finding out now national rana penalties are what it's actually regular. Tom dominated extra time. Well i mean they. They've got some help. I think i touch on this some interviews but having that that playing game is somewhat helpful. 'cause you don't have as much of as much of a break and you've got the win in national god. There's in dominating fashion we got ours in sort of like extra time stoppage-time magic bashing and that sort of builds your team's confidence and you you start feeling good and you start getting the feelings. Good vibes in your Playoff mindset sooner So i think that was really helpful for us especially coming into tonight We've already played in a winner. Go home game until he hadn't played since Us on where it didn't even actually mattering if they need it or not So yeah that's that's what i feel about that. How is the vibe different. When you have going in the team like now settled in the team we see how much of a difference he makes him. The guy is is just really really good player anytime. He's on the ball guys. Know that he can find them so they can make creative runs a conceal tree to float around me. He's checking to the mind. No i can give it to him. It's really hard to get him off the wall. So he's our leader. He's he's a great captain. He's guy that everybody respects and loves and he sort of rallies the troops so He was holding us all to a really high standard for tonight and and we got the job done. What does this mean for you. We joked about it before the interview started you had a lot of friends and family your new jersey native in the crowd and on top of that. I know every player says they don't hear it but you were one of the top goalkeeper of the year. Andre blake won that award. You get the shutout in this playoff win. What is this whole day means to you. I'm that agreed season. He was my vote. The year for the record and i will i will say is. It feels really really good to to win tonight. It's really does. That's the first time i've ever been philadelphia in anything. I've never been really I came here. It was the only mls team to really get me like one of those trials before before the combine and it didn't go very well for being outside. I was outside the stadium the whole time playing on a pitch out there. So this is where i made my debut. I lost to nothing in nineteen but his where my debut and the swag up my. You know my first win over them. My first win a call. The oklahoma first playoff win Technically are playing around so tonight's a special night. My friends family my girlfriend. Everybody was there that matters. And and if they weren't i felt the love in It was just a really special night. Bruce thinks that in the post game. That after that. So i can go. You guys kind of broke their spirit. How did you see this game. Play out and sort of the nitty gritty from that position back. They're of bird's eye view. Yeah i mean. I was athlete. Much better games in nagano. Clean gene mike in my career so Affair on kessler. Where immense. I think they sort of started running out of ideas and scrambling. I'm not used to playing from behind. They're usually on the front flip lane from head so It was really great for us to be able to build us build ourselves lead in not only lead a little bit of the cushing so Got ourselves got ourselves. The windy the ability to advance down to orlando acts of the bubble. Enda and what. I saw just a bunch of guys ten guys just battling each other anytime. Somebody got laid into a cheap tackle chief foul we were all rallying around that it was. It was a great performance. I'm not gonna get the cheap tackles. There's a lot going on that last final moments of the game but you mentioned orlando. That's the next step. It doesn't end. It gets harder and harder in the mls playoffs. What you see in that. Matchup against them took another team. That never never one in orlando. We've conceded a fair amount of goals along going down there so Oscars got them playing really good really good football you know they they got some big stripers up top obviously ninety and so you know. I watched that game against new york. We'll take time tonight interest this and then we'll we'll look at the look at their table. Look at the film Got ourselves ready. And i know that they have a and they got a bunch of guys so it will be a great game in a great matchup integrates us. I debris in response we. The mass can't see your face when you said you watched that game. Please just please just tell me what you thought about that. Penalty kick shootout and give us your best goalkeeper goalkeeper evaluation of rigo schlegel. My goodness i was watching the game. And i just couldn't believe what was going on. I really couldn't believe porgy I i feel for him. I feel like guys have come off their line a lot more than that and gotten in in nagano repercussions but you know the rest made the call and they made the call. It's yellowcard camera. Verson that so we'll take is an advantage going into sunday. Because he's been a for them all season so yeah we're really looking forward to that game resisted. The evaluation of rodrigo schlegel marceline goes for give. You see his forum. His crouch hand positioning is penalty. save percentage is better than mine. One for two. He's he's ten million years. Congratulations congratulations to you matt. Shutout and your second playoff win. We're counting that other one. Enjoy your night and good looking into orlando guys. Thanks so much. Great stuff from turner. According to dave who was in the comments section during that interview revs fans are feeling it. Tonight will they have an opportunity to go to orlando on sunday at three pm eastern. That's a big one. No pedro guy said. They tried to that red card overturned the appeal. The did not get appealed. Dig appeal overturned. I should say so. Peter guys who will not play. Brian wrote will come in or regal. They go to peak as they've been able to do. How much does that hurt. Orlando heard some quite a bit. He is a game changing player for them. Or does that change. the ceiling orlando has. Does it make you doubt them at all ahead of this game. Does it open up. Something for the revs. Did you see did you guys. That's all we call it alleyoop. You're like i put into your foot on the six. You're just supposed to just tap it in and be like before. They say he was incredible. Ease a game changing blair. He's like the stephan fry of the eastern conference. That's what you were supposed to say. Tried to help you out. But i understand that. I like in the process made myself very dunkel and so you dunked on me so i appreciate that. They've got no. David has a look at his. I like he something. What's this what's this game. Say to you when you think about this match on sunday what do you hope for what do you think about. I'm worried about orlando Because guy essay. And i think if there's a path forward and they probably won't wanna hear this spot. I thought once they went a man down they actually played a little bit more responsible And they were able keep the ball but take their pick their moments to go forward. And i think when i look at orlando sort of overall i think sometimes they get a little bit caught up in the end to end stuff and that was not. I don't i don't think that's their best version of their team. They can play beautiful soccer. That can keep possession that can switch it side to side. They can stretch teams. They can move him around. But i think ultimately where they're best at is using their counterattack pace on the wings to get behind and then finding combination playthrough decay and doing exactly the same. And i i. I just think without with without guy. I think that it's it's that safety valve of you know. Look at the ridiculous saves. He was making throughout that match. And that's that changes the way you actually have to play. You can't just depend on him to come up with one or two of those to keep you in a match. so i'm a little bit nervous for them I think they're still. They're going to have a mask. Had a crazy emotional ride. And they're going forward. And i think they have the quality do it but i think they should probably take A more defensive stance be a little bit more compact and tried to hit on the break. So kaylin i agree with everything you said but to me what stood out was the front three against nyc emc all played. Poorly deka was a nonfactor. Chris mueller got a ton of one. We want opportunities to zero and nani outside of the penalty kick that he scored not the winningest. He did not think so that to me is if they can raise their game to the level that they should play at. This team could be good enough to lose. Say for this one and still get through but if they play the way they did against nyc then this is a team that has no chance of getting through against the rest arrives team. That's playing with a healthy carlos. He'll the way they've played the last two weeks. And the other point will make is no who on as well and it seems like no shabu. that's both. You're starting fullbacks drama. Latino when he went out this team changed they were no longer able to actually be that. Sort of free flowing. using the ball to break you down team that they were throughout the month of july to early august. The mls is back tournament. Their ceiling is lower. But i also think it kinda simplifies for them. I think that orlando city oscar brea I've said this before We'd love oscar teams at their best because they will play that beautiful soccer in use the ball but also he super pragmatic and he doesn't think that's going to get him the win. He will put everybody behind the ball and say okay. we're gonna defendant. we're going to counter orlando city. Were doing that for a lot of the end. Part of the season in september and october especially I suspect that's what we're gonna see. This one is going to put the onus on the revs to possess the ball to break them down. And if you do that and you have. Flares like darrell. Decay chris mueller of course ninety You can be. You can be really really dangerous but the margins really thin and we saw today from the reds when they're going really well and they can get all those guys in the attack they can pull you apart and they can make it hurt. Maybe sunday three pm. Eastern orlando new england. Put on your tv put on your mom's tv streaming somewhere. Put it on everything. let's get a big rating. I said one forty eight eastern time. Am just wanna sit on abc National fans are think asleep. If i had to guess given their on eastern time and it's almost too because i don't see them in the youtube comments railing against us for not talking about their team and saying you still don't give respect. International in eastern time are they. I mean i told somebody michigan the other day that they were not in eastern time. And you don't on donald line michigan's house last thought michigan was the mid west. And i didn't try trying to such a coastal elites deanna. 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I didn't didn't have any faith and you said they were going to be better than miami but you did not think you would have never said that they were going to be in. The conference. semifinals beating off see. I just don't believe it wasn't it wasn't in your bracket it's not real life. You wouldn't have said it. So his team the let me let me just say. This nashville was a team that ended seventh in the eastern conference. That would have been the last team into the playoffs last year. So that was where they stood over the course of the season. That is what i kind of thought they might do in the preseason. This is an upset and it's not like offensive to think a-team that seeded seventh in the postseason is going to lose to a team that seeded second. We did not invent the idea that they had a worse season and therefore probably wouldn't win this game to your point of the united stand social media and not at all to your point on the slow build. Listen for an expansion team. That's not gonna spend like atlanta. You have to lock in defensively and solidified defensively. Fc cincinnati knew that they just went out and got a bunch of players that were in the nfc cincinnati. No that that is what they tried to do did they. I guess they had a dp defensive midfielder just talk about. Let's not talk about Throwing up that is what they tried to do. Nashville did it a lot better. They did it with. Mls experience guys in every single one of those spots and they were able to say in every game we will be competitive because it will be close and then they went out and they signed dp attackers and it took them what ended up because the season is ridiculous. Nine months to settle in and randall. Al missed the center in this one or an open goal. Mukhtar missed an open goal as well by sends of creating the goal Had a great ship got called off and then could he's got called for to all sides but he's just come in and settled in but his presence to me as opened up the game for muktar to operate underneath him to find spots to at least get some confidence because he never touched the ball in places he wanted to be for the first six months of the season and you never saw player goo believed he could change the game and believe there was opportunities. And now everything's one touch layoff and he's turning and he's running at pace at the back line and all those things and in the end all of them were able to come together and create a goal and this is an incredible night for this franchise. This is gonna be the moment that stands out whatever else happens. I still think to score in extra-time against toronto. Fc to win a playoff game. This is going to be the year one moment that they talk about and lives on forever going for everybody's been talking about narratives and the wade. Perception goes around nashville. This year. I think it's been almost impossible to judge. It's a brand new team. That didn't play in the. Let's keep it real. The most visible moment of the season was the almost is back tournament and it was the best opportunity that you had to see teams go against everyone right because other than that. They played inter miami twelve times this year. It was like really. It's tough to judge everybody against each other this year a few hours hundred times. Yeah and so. Like i think nashville is a team that people are still trying to figure out for the most part but when you look at it now and when you look at them in this playoff run. They looked like a playoff team. That's why you go out and get a guy. Like walkers zimmerman wanna support shield in dallas supporter shield in l. Afc you know really helped build. That franchise knows what it's like to take on a an expansion team. I would say dax mccarty did a similar thing in chicago which was essentially an expansion team at the time as far as trying to figure out exactly like who we are trying to find some identity and has the experience to do. That and joe willis even comes up with a timely. Save your here. And they're like he's inexperienced vet knows what he's doing and i think when you at you we we already sort of beat that dead but like they went out and got mls experience and know-how and playoff experience and then there are other pieces are starting to shine mukhtar especially to me as has has really emerged but but but but but in philly new england game what came. What did it come down to match winners. And while nashville has shown better from those guys. Columbus has them on ins. Artis you about the next notch up yet i understand. I'm just saying what nashville is. Done is incredible and they should enjoy it. Can you do it four times without one of those guys to fall back on because what philly had was a flat performance and there isn't that niccolo darrow guy who or vela steps up by themselves and carries you to victory and national needs all eleven to play well and we compliment that but what happens in the playoffs is if one or two guys as off then the whole team falls. And you don't have one person to carry you. And so what we'll see from colombo from toronto to columbus. A swallow had an off night. Josie was nowhere to be found in this game as well as piatti if zella on ends artists and santos and nagy can play to their level. It'll be fascinating to see of national can get over that hump in the next one. I think there's some similarities. To what natural did well in this game to what the need to do well against the crew which they gotta take away the center of the field and when they played well. They took that away from toronto. See like twenty minute span from about fifteen minutes of the thirty fifth trump. See sort of moving them around a little bit sort of pushing them side to side with more so than that vertical and got into the gaps and once they were there once they move the ball quickly they got goalscoring opportunities. Runoff see put put national on their heels. Natural could not couldn't get out of it. it was dax. Mccarty picked up the ball from the back line and just hitting hopeful passes that were intercepted and there was right back down their throat. That's what they have to avoid against the crew but come on safari hit us up with this status or hit the whole world via twitter. And he's a legend. Everybody knows him from. Us soccer days all up and down that pyramid with us. Soccer as well as with the rapids. Gary smith teams are now six one in the cup playoffs. Five single elimination. I know it's a small sample size notes. Cup winner in that colorado rapids seem array as level numbers. 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How does it feel. Thanks guys feels wonderful. Obviously it's one thing to. I think when a playoff game at home with in front of some of your fans in implying another expansion team and maybe john top of obviously they had they were missing some players. But it's a whole nother thing together to to come play in my estimation probably the best not second best. I whatever team anna for the past five years in terms of consistency in terms of championship mentality in terms of just overall quality are league has seen to come in and win the game on the road against them and not just win the game but in my opinion like ba- fully deserved to win the game is is a statement from us. I'm really proud of so you said it right there. I think as you come into this building. Unexpected goals dominated this game on regular goals. You also won this game. You always believe you're gonna win. Did you see it playing out this way. Yeah honestly we did. We knew that they were such a good team. We knew that they were going to have their opportunities. And we knew that we were going to have to be really sharp and take advantage of opportunities if we were gonna win the game. But i think in the first half We may be showed them a little bit too much respect. We didn't trust them as well as we wanted to. But that's also down to how good of a team they are. I mean guys like pasta halo. Josie and michael the they just they run. You ragged if you're pressing isn't good enough so doha's massive save in the first half kept us in the game second half rolls around we start to wrestle back control of the game and just start creating chance after chance and once we were doing that. I was really confident. We were going to get a goal. And i just didn't win. That was going to be walk me through the game plan because we talked about on this show and everybody has really about nashville style of play. But you said it there. The only time you guys were troubled was when they started picking the ball around and they found the gaps in the middle because they move you a little bit other than that. You really routed them. Where one of them to go is seemed like and then you haven't chances walk us through what you expected what you wanted this game to be. Yeah the first half i think. Got away from us a little bit. I think that like. I said we showed them a little bit too much respect in. They actually They were having too much away with michael being able to sit in between the centrebacks and pick out passes to guys coming into pockets. Guys'll daily on and pas walea were giving trouble we're getting pushed back on top of our box a little bit too much. I think once lee. We figured out out. Oppressive better wants the ball. Went out to one of their centrebacks either my bingo or that was a trip for us to step higher. Up the field me or brian. Noonan the middle tried to get a little bit closer to michael and so we really squeeze them so they did have any outlets was a really good tactical shift from us in the second half. And i've personally guys. I don't know what it looked like but i felt like they got tired and i felt like as the game went on. We just kept pushing and kept pushing. We kept running in and we just wanted to keep putting them under pressure and finally the dam broke. We knew if we kept putting pressure on them we would four. We talked about it a little bit last game. It was the first time you had the three attacking on the field together. A thought this game you saw these chances. But i thought honey mukhtar was really unlocks by. What could these can do. Doesn't get the goal but basically got it for you. What have you seen from him growing into this league and can he be the ten dp that you guys need for sure. I think having those two guys out there gives everyone a little bit of a lift and then sometimes you know you can tell that that connection is still growing right. I mean. I think it's gonna take a little bit of time for them to get completely on the same page. I think yonder might have to reread. What the outside that were called for back for off side especially the one i linked to him. I would have liked an assist to go with my goal. But the most part those bigger difference makers those are y you go out and sign players like that so they can change games and win games for you. I mean we. Obviously people have distracted as defensive team and that's fine we take pride in that we know that we're going to limit opponents to very few chances a game. If are attacking players can just turn through a little bit and be a little bit more ruthless In in really put other teams to the sword when we create chances like we did We're going to be really tough team to knock out as floss. I know they want to get you out of here. We have to ask you about the crew. You said it there in my mind right now. I'm thinking maybe i was just wrong about the bill. This is more of a slow motion. Crescendo getting big at the end at the right time. What are you seeing columbus. What you see in the opportunity in front of you. Yeah no no rest for the weary. I mean we go from for my money. One of the best teams in the league over the last five years to what i think is one of the best teams in the league. This year i think that when they have all their bodies healthy columbus is as good as any team in this league. So it's gonna be another huge challenge. Another huge tasks be went there earlier this year and lost. I actually thought didn't play too bad. We just gave up. I think some pretty poor goals in transition so we we respect the hell out of columbus. We know their wealth votes in. They've got difference makers in josse In darlington is a guy that we're going to have to try to limit but for the most part I think that was still when we were finding a little bit of ourselves and trying to find a rhythm. We're a different team now. We are growing in confidence. I think that you guys can see if we feel it on the field and so we're going to go there. Fully expecting to put them into a really tough game and again try to keep the momentum going and win the game. that's what it's all about. The money time to wins for nashville. Congratulations dax have good night. Man thank you guys. It's been a night. It is to an dax mccarty. I'm sure settling in flight home preparing for conference semifinal for nashville toronto see. Meanwhile they're going home. And i mean i'm not gonna say they're gonna feel good about that but it might feel good to know that you're gonna be in your own bed for a while. We mostly talked about nashville in what they accomplished by any of these teams canadian teams. This year what they went through really was more than unprecedented. They had a bigger load than everybody else because of the crossing the border because of where they were forced to be as far as training What they could do once. They went back into the market. I mean i heard trying to get an exemption. Just go to the training complex in canada. I mean it's just. It's such a huge way in some ways. I'm not gonna say. They felt relieved because their competitors. They wanna win this thing but it just felt like the ask got to be too much in the last month or so you saw him fall off at one hundred persuade. Low was a level that nobody else was at for a long long time and then toronto seem that they tapered off and in this game. They didn't show much to be honest with you. It's not vintage stuff that we expected from them. I agree but i will. On the last day of the season. They had a legitimate chance to win. The supporter shield. Yeah that's all of that and i'm not denigrating denigrating. Their season names. I knew increase of incredible odds. I'm only reinforcing your point. I'm only reinforcing that that they had to go through all of those things where you know they had to make all these decisions whether we go back for two days visit my are know my wife and kids and we can't train an how does that impact our injured players and treatment and getting people healthy for the next match and quarantining all that crazy stuff that you had to do. And then you also down to just the uniqueness of this playoff circumstance where it's like. Yes they lost tonight. You know but what would it be like if if you go to be a mo- field and you got we've all been there and packed and it's jumping and it's urine toronto coldness where they've lifted trophies different. It's just a different picture overall. And i'm not making excuses for them. I'm not saying that. They played their best or that they didn't but it's a pretty good excuse when you're playing in connecticut on a field that everybody after the game said like this wasn't the best like it was a it was a tough field of play on widget them more than national things they wanted to do in their home field is in connecticut but no one would ever want to be caught dead. Doing and i'll bring big season. Your hamburgers richie. Also steps forward. I mean they had and persuade low. I think more than anything really emerged. As sort of like i mean he was already. But the brain of the team and that centrepiece but it became. I think it became uniquely difficult for some of their older players in. Toronto is a team of veteran players. Where you know they missed justin. Moral tonight They missed you know. Josie wasn't at full health and for a guy that needs really everything to be right to be on the pitch and to be healthy and michael got her at the beginning of the year. And like that is a different thing where you see a team like philadelphia. That's may be structured in different way and the success. They had and the fact that it came down to the final day of the season still to me is is is impressive and you and you mentioned it. A little bit of the injuries as well for toronto like while they started probably their best team. Today to an extent piatti hadn't started in six weeks. Josie hadn't started in basically the entire season. Michael just came back into the starting lineup. Omar mrs spell jonathan. Oh sorry oh got hurt for a ton of time. Marquis delgado missed the game today. Pi like all these players that played. Today we're not anywhere near the level of fitness or sharpness that they wanted them to be in. You saw it. I think especially with josie. Just one he's on what he can do in this league and he was nowhere near that today. And it's gonna be fascinating going forward of toronto. Kinda talk about moving on the last few years but they brought us well oh in for giovinco and kind of like recharge the same group and i probably reach did send to an extent and so what are the next four months. Look like toronto. Fc everything's gonna be fascinating team in this offseason of. Do they try again. Because that's what piatti was a short term signing to. Just try and bring enough. In to keep josie and michael impossible going or do they totally reset the whole thing and greg. Vanney is a big part of that Leading this whole spell and could be headed to l. a. galaxy or another team. That's the big. That's the big question of the offseason for them for me is what's the deal with his contract. He's out jerem. Kaelin coach him. Barry premier if you give them enough to make a really quick point about toronto they going into that five loss against philadelphia in the late october. They were seven. Oh and one in their previous eight gator. Seven one seven wins no losses. One draw on their previous eight games. They're playing the best soccer in the league My marquis delgado got hurt in that game. Five loss delgado is a super underrated player in this league because he does the same type of stuff that we were talking about christian role on doing more than that he like. It's his defensive work. If you're central midfield is michael bradley. Jonathan is oreo alejandro puzzle. Oh you're probably in some amount of trouble defensively in toronto work they need miss. Marquis delgado lots night. They were doing a really good job of getting their left. Back forward ritchie laura. Laura could quite rat wrapped his left foot around the ball and getting any sort of useful crosses. Maybe that's different if just moro's there but that's what we talked about. What the playoffs every year. Somebody gets hurt it. You have to have that one through fourteen or fifteen. Somebody able to step up and play those roles. Toronto's in quite had that that was exacerbated by a couple of decisions. I think from greg. Greg vanney greg vanney said okay. We're going to go with michael bradley. Even though he hasn't been the same guy in two thousand twenty. We're going to go with josie out the door. Even though josie drowsy hasn't lost a step. he's lost three steps You know it left back. I would've played the kid gallagher. I think he's been really good at left-back since he came in on loan from celtic arrangers. One of those teams I think it's liverpool but conceded liverpool soy soon So i think there are some questions to be asked about the personnel from greg vanney. There's a lot of questions to be asked about that. Switch to the four to the sixty minute mark because it like toronto weren't generating a ton of chances at that point but they weren't allowing anything really and then as soon as four four two they skull much more bradley in central midfield and that is when national rail put their foot on the ball. Start getting out in transition. Start picking pockets of space in between the central midfield and central defence and. They just blew the game open. Miss was one nil. It could have been three or four. we are going to tackle. The jonathan story read gardening so replay. Tomorrow morning which is now much closer than basic tune into that on youtube. We're going to get outta here. It's that time davis. During the youtube comments saying shocked not shocked to see you do still up and give the people what they want. Well we're going to sleep now. This is also the podcast. Other releasing ahead of the conference semifinals. So if you don't listen to the podcast subscribe wherever you listen. 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How Long Can Andean Condors Fly Without Flapping Their WIngs?

BrainStuff

05:31 min | 6 months ago

How Long Can Andean Condors Fly Without Flapping Their WIngs?

"Today's episode is brought to you by Mazda back in the before times before covid Nineteen Mazda invited a few of us is podcasters out to drive there do see X. Thirty from Palm Springs to San. Diego and trip encapsulates what I miss about traveling and being on an unfamiliar road feeling the grip of the curves enjoying the world is you only can from a car with the windows down in the music up their whole lineup of. Is made to be agile in sippy on city streets or winding mountain roads but roomy enough to bring long whatever you need for either or both their sleek outside and in designed to reduce distraction and give you the control and confidence to really enjoy the drive for more information on Mazda C UV lineup including the first ever see X. Thirty go to Mazda USA dot com slash IHEART and don't forget to explore their strongest options. Welcome to brainstorm a production of iheartradio. Hey brain stuff lauren bogle bomb here. Imagine your average three-year-old human child something around three feet or a meter tall probably covered in jam a now imagine that child trying to get off the ground with a pair of wings bid have to be pretty big wings. Welcome to the plight of the Indian condor species name Volt Hor griffiths the heaviest flying bird in the world. Weighing in at up to thirty three pounds or fifteen kilos, they keep their heavy bodies in the air with some of the longest wings in the world there wingspan can range over ten feet long that's over three meters. There are only a handful of birds carnally living on our planet have larger wings spans, and they're all pelagics, birds, a plastic birds being seabirds that soar over the open ocean for weeks at a time, such as fast petrels and sheer waters. As far as we know, the largest brand ever fly was the Pella. Gorna Sanders C., which lived twenty five to twenty, eight million years ago and was twice as large as the biggest bird living today with a wingspan of twenty four feet over seven meters. Seabirds can accomplish this. Thanks in part to the literally uplifting winds that flow over oceans the Indian condor. Mostly relies on updrafts high in the Andes mountains across much of Western, south. America. The problem with being such a huge bird is that it makes getting off the ground or even flapping those giant wings and flight a bit of an ordeal. Soaring is easy once they're up in the sky and that's mainly what Andean condors do they just float like hang gliders in the air currents sometimes serving the ground for dead animals to eat as a scavenger and sometimes just having an APP. But this means that taking off is the most costly part of the birds overall energy supply. Scientists have always known that they spend very little time flapping their wings but a study published in July of twenty. Twenty and the proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences found the Andean condors flap, their wings, a sum total of almost never. Not, only to the researchers find colossal birds, flap their wings one percent of their total flight time they discovered a bird could fly for five hours and more than one hundred miles or one hundred, fifty kilometers without flapping them once. The research team found that weather didn't affect how much flapping the condors were doing. Study Co author Hannah Williams a postdoctoral researcher at the Max Planck Institute for Animal Behavior said in a press release. This suggests that decisions about when and where to land are crucial as not only do condor's need to be able to take off again but unnecessary landings will add significantly to their overall flight costs. All of which means that in Congress must understand how to use thermals, thermals being invisible patterns and bubbles of air moving all around in the atmosphere to their advantage, and they must understand this much better than scientists previously gave them credit for. Today's episode was written by Justin. Leeann. Shields and produced by Tyler, clang for more on this and lots of other high flying topics. How stuff works dot Com rain stuff is production of iheartradio or more podcasts. My heart radio is the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Today's episode is brought to you by Mazda back in the before times before cove nineteen. Mazda, invited a few of US IHEART podcasters out to drive there. Do See thirty from Palm Springs to San Diego and trip encapsulates what? I. 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Horn of Africa hit by worst locust invasion in decades

Marketplace Morning Report with David Brancaccio

06:59 min | 1 year ago

Horn of Africa hit by worst locust invasion in decades

"From Nissan to Boeing we revisit some of the biggest corporate scandals of one thousand nine hundred nineteen live from London. This is the marketplace morning report from the BBC. The World Service. I'm Lisa Santarelli. Good morning the third. Most senior executive at Japanese automakers on quitting just weeks after taking the job the move comes days off to Boeing. CEO Suddenly resigned capping off another year of headline hits in corporate scandals. So companies need to adapt to survive twenty twenty handed. Is He also of broken. Business runs crisis consultancy or two strategies back then and today Carlos going is a larger than life figure. And you still don't have all the facts. There's still an ongoing trial. What we know is there's just been a lot of bad governance and not just in Nissan but also in the joint venture and the question is they've lost so much time and so much momentum now the? US market has started to turn on them so the question is will they have enough breathing space to come back from from this another company. That's had a turbulent letting years Boeing and earlier this week we saw its CEO. Dennis Muilenburg ousted can Boeing regain the public's trust Boyne is only at the beginning of of this long recovery process. What you're seeing now? Is You know the broad question. Can we trust this leadership. Can we trust this board. Can we trust this brand to get it right. You know so much which of US depend on traveling every week and when people at least in emails are saying maybe my family won't feel safe on Boeing again. I mean those are becomes very human very real for all of us. So I think Boeing teachers. We have something really fragile out there. Human Life Human Safety Trust and And really will require new leadership new structures structures and really going above and beyond but certainly for them the big fairly was initial crisis communication. And now it's just a matter of rebuilding that. How long do you think that will take years so in all the time that you've been doing this how broken does business remain challenging questions? I mean the the Every business is somewhat broken at any point in time. Because we're very human we make mistakes I think what defines a business is the ability to identify those mistakes and deal with them and how much of the problem is down to the decades-long attitude of corporate profitability. Above all else. Well look look at your pension fund. My Pension Fund is not looking at how how great companies are in terms of how much they help society how much they help. And the local corner They really are looking at money funds. That's what we know how to measure and unfortunately we haven't been able to measure and price carbon for example and bring that into the balance sheet in the PNL's canals of companies. But we were dealing with a world in transition right now where a lot of these things are are being questioned revisited. And it'll be an exciting new year. WHOA new decade ahead? I guess as of January one Jose Hernandez. Thank you say much joining us on marketplace. Thank you. Let's do the numbers. She has in Tokyo Shanghai and Seoul all advanced with the exception of Nissan which lost as much as three percent on news of that executive resignation Miss European markets remained closed for boxing. Xing Day but gold rose bowl a false data above fifteen hundred dollars an ounce overall. It's been a banner year for precious metals including silver platinum and palladium. Let's head now to the Horn of Africa. which is suffering from the worst locust invasion in seventy years? The insects have already destroyed. Seventy thousand hectares farmland in Somalia Malia and neighboring Ethiopia threatening base of the Agricultural economies the BBC's Thomasson Ford reports swaths of desert locusts originated in Yemen in have been invading farmland across the Horn of Africa since the beginning of July the search caused by rains. Intensified breeding is threatening food supplies in both Somalia and Ethiopia with Fiz they will move onto Sudan. Eritrea and Kenya. The insects can travel up to one hundred fifty kilometers the day with the wind eating their own body weight in vegetation daily although Somalia averted widespread from two years ago droughts led to large-scale scale. Food insecurity affecting more than six million people farmers already struggling say they're watching their entire crops disappear the UN's Food and Agriculture Association says. The situation is extremely serious. I'm the BBC's Thomson Ford for Marketplace Fifteen eighteen years ago today. A devastating tsunami struck Asian countries from India to Indonesia the BBC's Pernilla Krishna. In India report on the impact. It has on one fishing family family. The sound of waves crashing on the shore of Jenny the south coastal city of India disturbs yen. Fishermen Senate Raj fifteen years ago. He was one of the fishermen who lost his large boat which he invested his life savings in a nine point one magnitude earthquake regardless Nami that took more than two hundred twenty thousand lives many of them fishermen lakes Aren Raj. They stimulated cost of the damage to the South Ocean. Countries including India Indonesia and Thailand was just under ten billion years donors though the loss of certain drugs. Thousand three hundred. A dollar ship might look small. It permanently squashed his dream of living a decent life without any dead governor Eliana Bono number. We got a small fiberglass boats. I'm forty feet long. We can't use this for deep sea fishing. Only if we go too deep sea fishing can get a good catch with this small boat. We get money only for daily expenses. It wasn't just physical. Losses suffered by his family after the Sunni. His father suffered severe mental stress and was unable to meet. That's the dream to build a house and a car is still on hold a party not order now for the new political. My was some fifty to sixty feet long. It was painted ended in red and green colors on sue NAMI. When we saw the boat we were distressed? It pushed my father to attempt suicide. India's government allocated final eleven point eight million dollars as live for the revival of fishing and agricultural sectors still many small businesses and individuals never record the financial losses. Silence of doing so. Nami made him decide. He would be the last person in his family to go to the Internet. I am BBC's look for marketplace and finally as many of you clear out the Christmas wrapping leftovers. Japan says it has recycled eighteen thousand tons of electronic equipment but the twenty twenty Olympics. The process taken two years and created five thousand medals. Tweet me or recycling plans for the new yet. BBC Lucia using the HASHTAG BBC marketplace. A place in London. I'm Lisa Santarelli with the marketplace morning report from the B._B._C. World Service.

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May 2nd 2019

Talking Tesla

07:30 min | 1 year ago

May 2nd 2019

"The. And your boys and girls mill have hit for your daily podcast pot of the talking tesla podcast attract it is Thursday may second. That's right. Both goes, and this is how it's going to be from now on when you don't hit their ticket ticket ticket music. You know that I am on the road because it's lot of made at that in. And when I'm in the studio with good, microphones and all the situations that are head then you're gonna hear that music. And I know you don't care, but I just throw it out there. And actually that was not planned at all. It's just sort of the way it happened. But now, you know, that you know, it goes the first star to talk about is the fact that tesla which is a cheaper model three with one hundred fifty kilometers of range in Canada. That's about one hundred miles. What's going on? They you said yourself, well, Judah pricing restrictions, and this is electric and Fred line. But just as a vehicles didn't get access to candidates new five thousand dollar federal incentive for electric vehicles, but the automatic and now launched a new model that is cheaper and soft. Loc two hundred fifty calmness actually Ninety-three models. So that they can get that discount. It turns out that you couldn't get that. If the price was more than I think, it was forty five thousand dollars, so therefore, and this is what the government says eligible for incentives. Vehicle must have a based model manufacturer sedition retail price of forty five thousand dollars for patients vehicles and six seats or fewer and less than fifty five thousand with seven seats or more for eligible vehicles with six fewer seats high price versions eligible as long as the final factored suggested retail is fifty thousand dollars this. So what they did is that they self way LTd the curse and drop the pros. So that get this federal tax credit of five thousand dollars. And then what you're gonna be able to do is cold on the phone and say could you unlock the battery a federal tax credit? And now, I still have got a very long range version. I think it's interesting. It might have been considered sneaky one does if the Canadian government might think that that's bad thing to do and ultimately block tesla from doing this because it's clearly because of the technology something that other people can't compete with. And was it done in the spirit of what Canada was trying to do there. It's HUD were kept the spirit of that incentive low. But it certainly seems like the as fan what someone consideration sneaky way of getting around it. But I'm sure that there's a lot of Canadians that quite Hepi that they've found a way around lays, JIMBO goes. And Fred lamb has another article here, which is that Tessler is launching the right hand drive model in the UK starting at thirty eight thousand pounds. So the left-hand-drive version is here in the United States, and in many, many countries right handwriting is much less common places like the UK places like a stray area, and unfortunately, those countries often have to wait for a year or two or three before they get they right? Hand version they right hand drive versions. And so now, it's happening happening in the UK happening in Australia on that my brother and many sterling's going to be happy. Let's people in the UK gonna be happy. I don't know exactly. How many sales they're going to do in these countries? Because obviously there are a lot smaller than the US. The UK has sixty million people Strayer is about twenty four million people the US about three hundred and don't quote me on this. I think three hundred fifty million people. And so if they have proportionately less cars than these are good markets is solid markets. But the reason you don't lead with your right hand drivers is because you don't have enough production. And so you gotta go with the left hand drive version is most of the world. And then you start these puppies later, but congratulations to the UK and to a sturdy end to whatever other countries. Do right handwriting? Let's look that up. Showy? Let's do that right now. There's this thing called Google. What countries let's do in real time? What countries right and drove maybe you know, this in your listing. In your head right now. So he we go his van on pulling it up on the Google waiting for the list. Here we go that's a little bit confusing, isn't bows and bills because the right hand. Drove people drive on the lift sense out of the road and the left head Dr rod and right, right? But it's actually more countries than I thought I thought it was just like one or two, but who draws on the left their full right-hand-drive is a straight the Channel Islands Japan. Hong Kong India of man island Jamaica, Kenya. Malta Malaysia New Zealand, South Africa, Singapore, Thailand, and the United Kingdom. How did all of this happen historically that some parts of the world are on one side road and some parts on the I don't know? But as somebody who flips between the country that's joys on left and drove on the road gets really confusing, and I often confined myself driving the wrong side of the street. I can tell you that's a bit upsetting for me. And for the people that unabashed to do a head on collision with it's very very upsetting and nail ledge. Jim. Let's talk about this article from Jill up. Nick was written by just in t west brook and GM confirms it is making an electric pickup. So Ford's going to be doing one Riviere is going to be doing one, and I got some chunk of cash from Ford as well. But the CEO of GM is Mary Baretta is it run. And it's is this GM has an industry leading truck Franco size and industry leading electric ation capabilities. The Bolton the volatile own vault anymore assure you will not see eligible in either front Beretta's we intend to create all electric vehicles. That includes a complete range of issues, including full-sized pickups. There you have it. I kind of love this here in the United States. They sell a law pickups and the big the big manufacturers really need to get on board. More people have this better. But I'll say the same thing again if you have the choice between a tesla pickup and GM or afford pickup unless something magic happens. I would always go for the. The pick up because of two major reasons in the first one is the super charger network. That's right. Listen, Jim, boys, girls, the super charger network until these other factors come along and develop a nationwide, and then worldwide charging network that has fast, then I just can't tell anybody to buy one of these things unless they know they're just gonna drive it around town. And they're gonna charge forcing the second thing, of course is tournament. I've lived the test was going to be way ahead of everybody else in terms of autonomy for a long time. If I believe Ilan, and I do believe along, and so it would be kind of silly to buy anything else. If those things that he's been telling us allows me week is true. If they're going to have a network of autonomous vehicles, I can buy my pickup truck. I can put it on the network. It can make me money when I'm not using it. If all of this is true, we won't know. It's all true for a year or two at least. So that's why for now I'm excited. And I think it's good. But you know, it's test is all the way for me. But for good reason, I'm not just a fan. Boy. Happy to criticize. Us doing boys and girls, this is daily. It's part of the token tests, the podcast, you can context us at info at talking. Tesla dot net. Talking tesla dot net and big show every month and then a second show for patrons. And then a daily podcast for everybody. So jimbo's goes I will speak at you in Sindh, mar. That.

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Markus Mayer 's  Gentleman giro for kids with cancer

Adventures in a tuk tuk

09:51 min | Last month

Markus Mayer 's Gentleman giro for kids with cancer

"You're listening to stories of discovery and adventure for adventure tale. This podcast is sponsored by the fabulous to uk the uk largest impulse of tax. If you wanna took to or anything took to relate to you as the company speech it they love. Tolkien took tokes as much as i do today. My special guest is marcus andrey mayor he is a passionate took adventure between twenty fourteen and twenty eighteen. He traveled over nine hundred thousand kilometers through forty countries on four continents including a double crossing of the usa. Coast to coast and the fosters solar tour around the world in eighty days on scrooges his just completed the sla home a road trip from the alcohol in portugal to retirement kempton in southwestern germany. Just twenty one days in fifty. Cpr took a next year. Marcus is planning a twenty five thousand kilometer forty one country at pitcher trip around review of raising money for children's cancer charities. This man is a true adventure. So let's meet him. Marcus andrey mass. So you've got a plan here ya. I actually tried to set up a charity ride. For next year. April november eight months fifty vespa old-school yep like a deal able west by the whole thing and suit and tie for kids with cancer. Very good oak dandy gentleman style right Forty one countries in amens. Eight months okay. Is that a false tool or is that a slow tool for you. Do you think. I will have an average of calculated one hundred fifty kilometers a day. The thing is sometimes you have to have to have like a margin in there because as you can't drive because of technical damage our other complications they'll also need to have a plan. B and c in case a corona restrictions for example. Close boorda's again. yes. I have certain plans in place. there will be various models how to Bring the clubs together. Yes us there's no money flowing through my bank accounts at any time. That is a very important point for everybody involved. They know that there's no money going to marcus. Thank accounts it's all going into. The cancer foundation's policy only national clubs or can be indirect as well okay. Does the help have to involve money or can it just be can. It can involve bed for the night or feel or when you're in that particular country in all of those countries i will try to get connected with local clubs. Yeah so setup connection with the national club. I informed local clubs and give me a recommendation of the best route to be taken through their country. Okay and small events in their club houses so that might be a small barbecue. If it's allowed with restrictions yes To raise the money there we did in germany. In two thousand seventeen did one of those rights. It was nine thousand kilometers in five countries and we raised twenty five thousand euro at. How did you raise that money. Who raised that money. I met in forty twenty two days. I met about fifty clubs some events that were already set up some And every day. I wasn't another club at another place. Having a barbecue party. The motto bus was right. Eat have a barbecue good. I'm jody the policy here. I think all five vespas. That's the thing so we actually. I went from clubhouse to clap told all the clubs with germany switzerland austria. Look i will visit you the only thing. We is a small barbecue in the corner with some sausage on a cold air and your donations on the table. And then your club. President collects the money from the club. Yup and the next we go to the bank together and directly pay it into the cancer foundation together so in this in this way some of the up set up the little things like one was selling a whole vespa to to the price of even what he earned but the food price of the rest bubble standing and donate. There's another one had an artist paint by picture and it was sold for fifteen hundred zero and he donated that fool. Thanks a lot of clubs organized small dents and small rideout's and all sorts of things to raise money and then handed to me. Basically when i arrived at the clubhouse planning just started i have to refuge. I will go anti clockwise in april i will start in south germany. Crossing the alps towards greece rush so enter italy like i liechtenstein. Switzerland go over to italy. Slovenia download the whole balkans till greece. And then come up through the balkans on the gold coast of the black sea. Yup romania bulgaria and all those countries hungary comeback to austria poland czech republic up north. Because that way. I can start as early as possible and i come in high summer up to autumn points to avoid the snow and misery update off cape yep whether it will be really rough up there so i need to get basically in july august and to be there. If i get there earlier. I have snow in. It's impossible to ride there in in a suit and tie obviously yes. Yes then i would come back down on the western side of europe again. Maybe that is. The forty first country is not sure because it's iceland okay. It really penned which time of the year it is and will depend if there's somebody in a club in iceland who's willing to host fest clubs in all these countries plus basically yes not all of them are united in the world club. Most of them are. And i know about fifty percent of the of the national presidents. I know in okay. That's a plus when you do come to the uk. I'd like to with you with my took. If that's possible. That will be perfectly fine. I guess because took is going a little faster than my took. And i will have probably ride at like fifty five forty five to fifty kilometers an hour. That would be like twenty eight miles thirty miles. Perfect perfect Presumably there's lots of vesper clubs in this country. Have you had any contact with any respite cups in this country connection with the westbound club of britain. Okay app quite a few fans. Over in britain as well and i will try to ride up on the eastern part of britain up to the northeast point. Yet optogenetics yes exactly and then come back down on the on the left side on the the on the way and over to to ireland. Yes and then. Back to the the south of britain to to take down to spain to bilbao. Yes it sounds like. It sounds like a great plan. Yeah the i have to experience two thousand seventeen. It burke very well to cooperate with the club's the whole route will develop now at. It's an experience. I had in two thousand seven to develop on the way. Partly right one of the points how we raise the money will be. There will be a vet shop itself. Parties like petrous like the so penetrators yet stickers and cox for the for the best boss like the metal cards and i have an overdue. How much money. Each club has to donate fulltime job for the next five months doing this. I have my problem at the moment. 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Mackenzie Jackson of Conpago discusses their journey from a WiFi-enabled kettle to an enterprise software suite empowering communities, by staying focused on the problem he was solving

The Fractal Marketing Podcast - with Gerard Doyle

38:50 min | 1 year ago

Mackenzie Jackson of Conpago discusses their journey from a WiFi-enabled kettle to an enterprise software suite empowering communities, by staying focused on the problem he was solving

"When we grow older we want to be surrounded by the people we love. That's why can pago has a mission to build thriving communities in aged care home care and retirement net living in this episode. I talked through the seven pays of start up marketing with mackenzie jackson. The co founder of kentucky welcome to franchise dot mocking the podcast founders who are frustrated. The potential customers do not on the stand or undervalue their innovative business solutions. My name is jerry doyle and each episode. I interview founders who openly discuss how bad tackling the seven pays of sod up marketing. We'll talk about their startups pitch. H problem promise a sign up position promotion and propagation intrusive out fashion. We aim to learn through collaboration and discussion and let's get into it. Thank you so much for joining me mackenzie no problem. Thanks for having me on the show here. We just established before the show that we did made two years ago. I think we're at the beginning so i'm super in trade to learn how the businesses of all from what i remember it as but before we get into that and talking about history history mackenzie. Can you kick us off by giving us your quick elevator pitch. To what pago does yeah sure. I mean it's changed. It's changed a bit since he would. I heard it but essentially we're we're community platform and we work in this space of what we call age tick and that's kind of technology aimed towards the aging population in australia and our primary targets were enterprise sales. We we deal with home care providers and also retirement living. We provide a platform that that has really three elements to it going to dedicate a tablet for seniors. We have a cloud based management system for the care providers and also a mobile app for you're care isn't family members and we have the primary goal of being able to help seniors age in place that is to stay in their own home for as long long as possible without having to go into here and we do that by giving them access to a whole bunch of services that they wouldn't have had easy access to like doctors appointments demands physios and also arrange of community aspects so they can join in local social groups. They can find the appears and have conversations stations about it. They can join events on what we call a virtual community so they can join a virtual book club or they can live stream events and everything is designed to help the senior agent place help enterprise clients which is to care providers have bid a communication and access to them and then open up a window of transparency with the family members about model app so that they know when kids bring provided they know that their loved ones safe and it all feeds together to be able to help help that end user the senior age in their own home comfortably for as long as possible that sounds great and it's such wonderful thing that you're doing you know most startups trying to do some good luck trying to find some justice but you can see this is you've got a real mission behind what you're trying to do so congratulations on picking such worthwhile problem to solve i guess what i mean trade though because what set to me as a marketer when you peach that and it sounds fantastic but it scares me a little bit because festival my first thing is who's your customer and you talk about enterprise so the homes and then you introduce to one very important stay called obeying in the aged user would have the choi- decided by the old using the tablet and then of course they kicked their family members and people you want to get in contact with so you've got one customer and two additional stakeholders. How do you pitch your product in such a way that they all feel like they're getting value without necessarily turning running the older you know uses of your f- into products allow facebook turning us into their product how do you how do you navigate that in your pitch. Yeah i mean it's an interesting interesting one and we actually started off as a b. Two c. play you know we'll trying to sell direct to the consumer which is the end user and it was near impossible. This was very hard to try and reach that that target market so you know we we sell to the enterprises because that's the biggest access that we have to our to our end users the biggest sales channel that we have also the way that we can provide the most amount of value to them but you know like going back to to how we provide value value to to everyone and make them all feel included it. It really is we don't wanna introduce. We stay kind of hidden in the background we make <hes> we kind of make missile to the to the enterprise client and then we white label rebrand everything to them so that we're not introducing a new confusing potty to the end user. It's it's all familiar to them and they feel kind of this great connection to their existing kind of world that they live in but it also provide them immediate access to whole wider range of services and whole basically the access to the internet will at it being gene so scary though so i guess in that sense you're aligning you'll mission with the facilities mission and hopefully those two things are directly aligned and that's it's how you get that end steak hold up. Uplift is the fact that you know they have to provide a particular service of connection and communication and care and you'll they're trying to do the same thing so if you're aligned aligned than in practice i guess everyone wins in that outcome yeah yeah and that's that's definitely definitely correct and you know and there's been some great changes in the system. At the moment we've just come out of a royal commission from age care and one of the key takeaways from that is quality standards and then is all all about klein community engagement so there's always almost like a force alignment in the sector to favor which is basically basically saying you know this. This is where we will be heading and we're going to put some standards implies that actual that so you know we've just we've just kind of have entered into what you might you know. There's very early adopters the real innovative in the industry with just being kind of going through that kasim and with the royal commission we've really felt that a whole new audience has opened up to us say okay not only should we be doing this but now we actually have to be doing this so it's really helped kind of align ommission with the larger audience not just those really early adopters and you've won me over mckenzie by mentioning crossing the chasm and referencing it twice in one sentence music to a mock. It is easy to hear stuff like that because yes. This is going to be great so that's only because i spent such a long sometime in the chasm. I love it so before i alluded to before we you know we met briefly about two years ago <hes> and the funny anything for many years i think i mentioned it briefly before. We started recording in my head on memory. What was the original pitch and then i said something about wifi wifi enabled talking kettles and we stopped talking about. Let's talk about it in the shower but obviously you've moved a long way from the because this is much more than talking cash castles <unk>. I'd love you just expired a bit about that origin johnny but both maybe even pre the talking cattle which is realize wrong bills and then post the how you to where you on now with an enterprise suite of software tools and a robot as it's kind of an interesting journey one that wasn't a direct path at all all but you know i had been interesting kind of childhood. If we want to go back that foul be brave but you know my grandma was one of my primary care is my parents musicians. Nations are always on tool so i lived a lot with my grandma and you know when we kind of grew a pot or when when i moved moved on i couldn't even say my grand mar pitcher. There was no easy way to communicate with her and then we became involved in this research projects at q. Take the messaging kettle which is what you would have remembered and and it was all about how do we increase connection and engagement with a you know allowed family one so it was a very very much a beat ac- play and and really what it was you know best. I can describe it as this little little magic box and you'd plug you plug the box into to the to the wall and you'd be out of plugged into the wall and everyone in the family would have once imagine my grandma would have one and i would have one and when i turned on my castle my grandma's box would light up and glow and will when she turned on hurricane. Oh my box would light up and glow and what this did was. What proved in the research is that it triggered. An activity eddie memory is that my grandma would see that light glomming showed no that i'm having a cup of tea would bring back kind of you know and it might trigger some memories but also might trigger. I heard that it's good time for me to call you know and when you see the <unk> going on my grandma's okay and she's active and we took this really basic concept and it was the powerful from a research aspect and you know it's important to as part of the answer to realize research commercial as often very very different goals else and richer and so we we got the i i pay from the university. QC was very supportive in that sanson. We and we started commercializing this project because we had a lot of research behind us we took this to to care some care organizations leaders in the field and they say oh this is a great right comsat but it's so expensive to buy this box at will live residents or clients nar that a family have disengagement. Can we add a screen rain to it because we add a screen to it. Then i can send a message to it and then has a bit more value and then we went down this past and all can book service or do they could book a service through the screen in box thing with the kettle and and then eventually we got certified down the track that they would just kind of like look. Do you know what if you could just leave the screen and get rid of the box topped in the kennel outright. That'd be fantastic. That's the real reason why we started talking to you can just remove that look. It's always hard to kind of find. Why not you know the baby's ugly not really but you know in this case. It was important a glass into the door and it also gave us a a large sense of of kind of authority coming from research. You know we weren't just young start up at night. What we'll talking about. We did have some backing behind us. Got us us into the door and it allowed us to ask the question. What are you actually want. What are the actual problems that we can help solve and so then once. We actually started focusing on that. We went away iowa. I'm very i'm very attached to my baby. I want to go back to the messaging kennel at some point but at the moment where we're getting good traction with with the platform phone network built a career. I think we'll we'll stick to that for a bit but i do want to revert back to the messaging kato because it's got a soft spot in my heart you'll be you'll be worth money. They'll be prototypes types kicking around one day that you'll be able to sell for money. I'm curious to just want to wind back just a little bit there. We spoke about the problems that you're solving ends. Are you are asking the customers and you taking over potential customers saying you tell us the problems and and from that you're able to sculpt the product around that can you he <unk> deeper into the problem because that's as one of my one one of my pays is the problem that you're solving and maybe sort of help us understand that a little bit about obviously a problem wasn't that it needed a strain they was there was more to it than that so i wonder if you can just break down a little bit more about the the real problem solving with the with the sweet yeah definitely so i mean one of the one of the lodge problems with these large characterizations very very old school in its had industry to disrupt and innovate. It doesn't have a lot of adoption of technology wednesday client so it's very hard to be able to engage them regularly so i'll give you one example of client that we have they service an era of one hundred fifty kilometers so they've their central base they provide home care services is within a radius of one hundred fifty kilometers from that base so you can imagine that you know you can you can you can call someone you can post them out a letter very hard to have any it one on one communication and it's quite a costly long process with him to be able to kind of have any social interaction to send transport out there to you know to be out of service and get a service out there so one of the problems that they really were facing is that how do we streamline at clients. How do we get more contact points with them and without having to drive one hundred fifty kilometers you know every day to to visit to visit our clients and also had how do we get them engaged with the internet because the internet is the obvious solution to this but had to be good at clients to use technology and one one thing that we found through the recessional so after it is that there's this misconception that seniors don't want anything to do with technology and alam it. There are a few you know that we've dealt with that. Don't but really it's just they don't understand it and no one's really given them the time and built something full them you know once you build something full roll them then they become quite involved in it particularly if it has meaning and purpose for them so one of the big problems that were able to solve his the care organisations were to effectively communicate wrigley with the clientele that were able to you know book services get increase the amount of services that were being being used by the clientele and also have when care is come you know for them to be able to check in on the device so that the care is actually been inside and and arrived there and that make the whole billing process easier so a lot of it was kind of you know it's not it's problems that we will could solve with technology of in a different industry but we needed to come about it an innovative and creative white tackle tackle the problems that we're having this particular industry which which is basically taking the greatest communication told it's ever existed vein internet but you're making it accessible to a section of community not find it hard to get access to and by doing that you basically unleashing the power of what we understand and what we would use daily basis communicate and keep up with friends but you're empowering a a whole demographic to be able to do that so yeah yeah i love. I love that idea. It's a real it's a real mission in peppers in which i guess gets back to your kettle with a box in the i was there was form of using using the internet or technology to create some kind of human connection remotely so you know he's still on the same journey. You just pulled a lot more tech yeah. Even the problem hasn't changed changed. That's just how we're trying to solve that problem. You know that's kind of developed and growing and i think we've added a couple more probes into the mix as well the tends the heaven doesn't <unk> once. You've identified this problem and you're pitching this into your potential customers. The age care facility providers service providers. What's the promise that you gave to them. They adopt your technology. I'm getting it's based around communication but is there something else that you give them more tangible that you promise say look if you use us. This is what you're gonna. Say this the uplift this is the engagement reverend is what have you got away that you position. The product said that can really get tangible measurable uplift in some way yeah. I mean that's a good question and i think you know if we look at the promise from what we what we aim to give out at clients. Which is you know the retirement communities the home care providers. You know one thing that we can promises that we give an uplift in community engagement that they have and we've got a lot of awesome case stories as to do that and i think the biggest selling technique that we use is stories when we're selling to enterprise to to make it personable for them. You know eh to promise that yes we can streamline the workflows by doing a b and c but that's a pitch that everyone's heard a lot because every product claims to do that but when you actually give them a story at kind of backs up the promises the italian them it becomes a whole lot more powerful and i guess the promise that we that we deliver is that we're going to help view increase that communication pace with your clientele. We're gonna make it easier for them and easier for you to book sevices communicate and betta data utilize some of the resources that you have you know going back to that same client that services a hundred and fifty kilometers. They run events every single well day in the response centre. They've got two and a half thousand clients and about fifty people show up every day and it's generally the same you know. Fifty people people are pool of maybe a hundred people that show up to these events every day. You know so the promise i will i will give them as at if you reach out and engage technology without platform weaken livestream all these events that you're hosting and better utilize that resource you know you're paying for the speakers to calm your organizing the events and like a tiny fraction of your clientele actually benefiting from this so without software you know we can make this promise that you're going to have a wider veteran gauge moment and reach from resources that you already spending. It's not going to cost you anything. Additional from obviously you know the cost of the platform but you know that's that's kind of the promise that we i will give and the best way that i think we can sell that is to conflate this client stories and positioning them so they can kind of get the hit around it otherwise we ended up just being another tech company giving empty promises that out that we're gonna solve all the problems that have yet. I'm a a huge fan of of storytelling when you renew pitching and you're trying to deliver a promise because like your origin story but hey came up with the idea and he spoke about growing up and your grandma looking after you eat and all of a sudden my mind just goes straight to. I'm totally believing in what you're trying to live up because you've driven by greater false which is the whole thing of an origin engine story. Is that your they're driven by a greater force and then when you when you humanize anything can just becomes well visible becomes easy to remember then second of all you can relate to it so much more and come terrible. I forget facts all the time. I forget names on a complimentary and they're trying to things but he told me a story. I'm definitely gonna remember that so yeah i think i i think that technique makes a huge amount of sanson anything that anyone can do this autopsy that can become a good storyteller. You're gonna find a lot more success at whatever you pitching shing really so also you mentioned there about you mentioned about crossing the chasm and and one of the battles there and i think you are take united perfectly which is aged care and and the whole industry around that naturally isn't going to be at a doctor of innovative products because of the very nature dealing with sort of age age people who are really looking to adopt new ideas not typically anyway but then they wouldn't but it's hottest day right age is a typical factor around adoption if you ideas yes oh. I'm thinking about atn going well then. How do you identify some kind of enterprise. Age can provide a facility manager who actually is likely to adult it so when you think about that target target customer and you're trying to define design. What do you look full. That says this you know how do you separate the archaic providers to the to the innovators his clues and signals that you look out for that says this is possibly a real customer for me. Yeah i mean that's interesting to kind of kind of thinking that the first customers that we got in the first people that really became involved evolved in it we we met them 'cause in the state library here in brisbane they they organized they digital camera for every single one of their residents and they put on an an art gallery display of all pitches at the residence of taking you know some were melancholy in somewhere beautiful and you know somewhere uplifting and some were kind of sad addin depressing but you don't like it's you know when i'm talking about. What is it that we looked for. I mean that was probably one thing that was dayton affects. You know his his is age. K provider that's going to these extraordinary efforts to try and stimulate <hes> their residents that i think the things that we kind of look out for at the moment moment is the the the biggest success that we have is through kind of industry industry events and listening to the organizations that are presenting in the ones that are up on stage aged trying to push a generally the ones that we've had success with in this early stage you know and it's all the people in the audience that are going to be harder for us to reach ah the other side of that chasm but the i guess what we've looked out for is surrounding ourselves in the industry making sure that we're in tune to do the events that are happening and anyone that's kind of showing any kind of indication that doing anything outside of the box in this because if they're if they're doing something outside the box and we know that we're going to get in the door and be able to have a conversation with them and try to uncover what some of the problems are so i mean i guess for us is toronto target persona. You know it's the if it comes down to an individual it is generally like a business development manager with an h k provider or marketing getting manager someone that is already thinking outside of the box of how to grow a business and we'll often kind of appear on stage at these events events you know always kind of having a ear to the ground and trying to find out these people but i guess the advantage for us at the start is at the people that <hes> that were the biggest help for us. First customers were probably the noisiest ones in the industry survey gave us a little bit of advantage and now have gone and got that foothold is all about how do we reach. How do we reach the rest of that that target market and we're doing that through with the help of the royal commission with you know tell them the the story of of what we're doing some of these great industry leaders and kind of getting them on board with becoming an industry leader and leading the way in this new new vision. If that makes sense it does yeah it reminds me of seth godin sneezes as the idea that you find that person who's op chat about changing innovation and what we need to do you to make a better place you convince that person to come on board and i saw shannon matt what joe joey and you'll company yeah just wondering yeah like from a virology from propagation point of view you have you found that by winning over those early adopters that i'm wondering with a like this shouting other people saying hey so what you're doing with company x. wiles ed we'd like to give it a go a two and then secondly i do wonder about i think about the massive numbers of staff members who who work at these institutions and i wonder when they change jobs when they start the new job they go. Oh i lost company. We had the software and wondering what point <unk> if you're there now if you're hoping that feature that that kind of virology polity and the propagation of what you propose dots to take care of itself. You don't need to mock it. You just need to entirely focused on having a good product started or have you got a sense of that might be around the corner before you yet is a very topical kind of bring this up because these are all the conversations that we're having in the office now is that we're starting to get you know this this momentum and that first time with all your efforts come from outbound lades. You know like you knocking on doors. You calling people going to advance and then you start getting your. I little trickles of inbound leads well. This is new by someone's going to our website found us at emailed us well and we the we just actually starting to flip the switch on that women woodley differ not there but we we've been having these big kind of discussions of how can we take this from machine that we really have to pedal and we're getting great traction but is a lot of peddling going on and how do we flip the switch to make this. You know this kind of get this perpetual motion in happening you know and so we we starting to really change the way that we're you know it's comes down to get someone to sign up on the website and download the software and just immediately immediately start using it with the hope that one day someone in america was somewhere anywhere in the world might download software start using into stop paying for it and you know we we might not even know the i'm i'm a fan of this inflection point in just to quickly like from my story had a company in the UK laid galaxy dot com and it was about two years into running that business when all of a sudden so we were pitching we're providing leads to real estate agents who sell probes as at about eighteen months to ease into all of a sudden we realize that is what happened was real estate agents would change agencies and when they turned up in their salespeople they'd say oh. What did you do it agency excess. Oh we used to get leads from galaxy the pick up the phone ring. I ride. How do i do this. Do i buy leads from there was no questions and was just that sense of it and so it's going to work somewhere else. I would imagine you guys. It's quite close the only thing i was just thinking about for you guys and i do. I wonder whether it works if you think about when i think about classic virology in a product it's always based around the idea hey that the product is greater. If more people use it and you're a communication platform at the end of the night so i almost imagine baking in virology with is the way that if you have multiple i uses using the same software and technology all of a sudden. It's like started say for example. I might have my mother-in-law using the technology are this is great and my mother goes where i'm like well. Can you use that too so icon if you like you guys are primed for propagation like it's gonna be all these things. That doesn't just happen. It just explodes for you. Sorry we're getting a little taste of that. Too is people people that are pitching this to the retirement villages that the appearance go to and what we're finding that people contacting us and say look. I really want this. I you know my my mom to use. This is somewhere i can get it. All at the moment would just enterprise sales within nine thereof pitching for us which is which is fantastic but you know another another kind of area of that viral that propagation is is actually in the end users themselves to set. We've learned we go into an organization. We've learned to try and immediately uncover because the first steps has is debt free trial and i i just try and uncover with the organization who you most active community members and we call them at champions because if we can get them on board they get everyone they get everyone else on board. You know they they they get everyone. That's going to the rest bites into everyone in the that somehow connects into the same owned organization on board and then it explodes through that and <hes> one of the biggest lessons we learned is that when we first rolled this product out we're we've shown everyone how to use it during the demos and then you know this is we go to see the events that are happening and this is how you join a group and then people would ask well. How do mike craig route one. Oh i didn't think you'd want to create a group or you know. How do i create an event <hes> that you'd want to create an event and this whole thing changed is that oh wow this is amazing because now we don't need to create events and the organizers donated credit events a champion credit them for us and and so it's a bit of a bit afflicts we're getting all these things that in line and through learning like learning with the rollout process and i can really feel that we are absolutely on the cusp of that curve where you'll be on a pinpoint the time that we've changed things slightly we that all of a sudden it started to blow up but it's a it's about talking well for us at least definitely talk into the customers and finding out what really they want and making them the champions and giving them the tools to sell your product full you yet. It's almost like it's it's a win win in the sense that their products working people using to communicate that communication bots very nature's gonna help it spreads so it's kinda like your product works. It's going to uh-huh propagate throughout the throughout the world. Hopefully you guys yeah. I think it's i think walking. Just i can say that it's this. I'm excited to say that the expansion of you guys so the thinking a little bit sort of defensively now and thinking about the position in the marketplace. Oh i don't know your market at all so i don't know the way that you guys need into position yourselves so i'm wondering if you can sort of talk about when you enter the market whether existing solutions in there and did you have to find a unique positions and some i guess some clean finance position campa or was it something where you completely creating a brand new marketplace so you didn't have to worry about that at the start. When we're we go back to like like the messaging kiddle now we really felt like pioneers in this space and you know we were kind of leading the way and now have come into this new space with his old is a couple couple of other startups popping up everywhere you know and and we will tackling you know i've taken the same problem with different solutions you know so and i guess how how we really position itself in the market is that we targeted these couple of solutions out there that is some great products that will help senior use technology legiti so you know it might be a simplified tablet that they exist on the market where you can buy it and grandma can message people message you easy and that she can get on facebook easy but where we really differentiate ourselves as we're all about building a community and we're all about kind of providing services so we actually have found that learning to use technology isn't the real barrier although we kind of thought that would be at stop what's the real barrier and where the real kind of open the market is is that there's not many places available in this <unk> this giant black hole that is intimate that is dedicated dedicated to the aging population that really tackles the problems that they have and looks at the care providers helps them deliver the solution so we're we sit in the in the market is kind of looking at the care providers and the clients and figuring out how we can make a really nice gel between them and the care isn't a family that helps build out this community and as we you know almost community a kid where everyone has the ability to look out for each other and create events and build up this community. That's kind of on the basis of the care services that are available so i really that's where we position ourselves to the market but when we started lewisite how can we have can we build a thing a physical thing the going to help people stay in contact where now with kind of diverted as to how can we really help to build at a community and really utilize the community and services that exist that exist out there and allow them so i feel that we sit in the market and that's where we've kinda niche doubt the slice and i feel like that's you know i would say this but i feel like that's the secret source to really getting some disruptive innovation in this in this field is to is to mega was not reliant on one one person or one family or one provider it. It leans on a community and grows with a community. Yeah i mean you can hear it. In everything decided that becomes becomes a primary focus and i can see how copycat businesses other people who may be on your this story than ours invested in the mission and the vision of what they're trying to cut up scratch the h. so to speak where they brought a better indicates. He's a his year i find but with the biggest screen is very simple stuff and it's like he's already used but slightly adopted to you you get to the crux of what which on the solitaire and its communication and community so yeah i think that becomes the positioning right that becomes a positioning v you guys if you're known as the community solution well you win you win that market and there will be provided <unk> quick solutions or people who just by bed up. I i find for the parents but that's that's scratching each side to speak so i think i think will not the authority on any of these things but in my opinion that sounds like a great positioning striped dr congo jays think to oh we win reduction. We're done so last thing and obviously the thing that's closest to a market is hot like mine is around the promotion all i'd love it if he could share with people listening and other fans listening the the one marketing thing that you found has worked really well for your business and sort of like how that sort of came about and then how you're executing it now without giving away secrets all you competitors. Maybe heavily on yeah yeah. I mean we've tried everything you know in in the space as you do and one thing that we've kind of learned that knocking on doors and called emailing cold calling is is is is a quick way to kind of burn burn leads in its industry but i guess kind of the one i'm just trying to think of what what is the kind of one real title promotional technique that that we use an and i think it comes. I honestly think comes back down to the storytelling aspect because the the most amount of leads aides that we generate is from industry presentations and you can see that the moment when your onstage and you talk and and you bring a real person into it that everyone's everyone's kind of perception of change and you know i know it's not quite as concrete as saying well we used google edwards and we we we re targeted this keyword and then all of a sudden sales skyrocketed but for us i really think it's being being able to tap into the industry events and conferences and really leaning on the stories that you'll have been able to generate that's been the best ask promotion that we've been able to get for you know for for customers story that comes to mind is is of a classical disney she she had a stroke two years ago and and she lost a lot of mobility and she got a speech impediment the what people mode slack a secondary problem to that no one thinks about is that she lost a la- social confidence and then she started using our products. She started attending events on the virtual community. She started building up confidence. She started to then book transport for the first time in a long time in two years as which she started coming out to community events that were being hosted on the platform and actually started physically attending these things even ride down to the point. We're in two years. He hadn't used the second level of a half since a stroke because she was scared to go upstairs analysis seething using product. She's been able to go upstairs and and you can. When can you tell this story and you and you have the kind of real emotion that comes behind and pride of of doing that. You know it's probably the best promotional technique that we've we've been able to use as getting up on stage the of of telling this story and getting people on board and then it almost doesn't even massive what your product does because people are so focused on the end result that it's kind of like. I want an end result like that. I want to bring that into my organization where i can give that end result to my clientele and whatever whatever you're doing to get there is almost secondary and i think that is being the k. to us beyond deliver those stories and in those industry events events that is being the best promotion that we've been able to offer so. I'm not sure if that's answers. The question is is as well as you want. In terms of you know really kate key takeaways as to what to do from here but i do feel very strongly that that's been the best kind of promotional material better than the best marketed brochure available. I think having those stories of at clientele has been the the promotion that we could get on. I think i think you've carded exactly right like it's. It's all the other tactics you might talk about. Adjust vehicles say the tactics they vehicles at channels for delivering that story and in that vehicle. Oh happens to an event well so bad but the k. thing. Is that a bank usual format to tell a human story something that's relatable something puts people allows people to ally with a mission and vision and the one advantage of got around anything to do with care health care is that anyone involved in that industry is involved usually getting into it to start with for the ri- raisins. They're in it to make a difference here they are they are operating on a higher purpose. You know a nursing care. Facility doesn't do it for the glamour. 'cause they really isn't any. You know you do it you do it. There's easier always an the properly <unk> own enough really for what they agree with that. Yes definitely so you just think we'll get so. They're not in it for the money. They're in it for the end objective. If you seeing to that you know him. Shays spe vignette. People just join you they go. I just believe in why we're doing it doesn't really matter i. I believe if i stick with you. We'll we'll find solutions. I know i think i think what you've given. There is not specific technical advice. Given people classic pitching and positioning advisory is a storytelling olen but yeah right now so you guys have got a bunch of great content brought a great story. Does some really cool stuff. You've done on some coverage if people wanna learn more about can pago and and sort of follow your journey what are the best social and digital channels to find you and the company on yeah. I mean always the best channel is to to jump onto the website and sign up to the to the mailing list that will give you the best coverage but on all social media's were on facebook linked in into its a and instagram pick your social media of choice you can definitely follow us on the air but i would encourage you guys to if you really want to follow the story to definitely reach out to us an email sign up to the to the mailing list and and then you'll be able to kind of get the best coverage of of where we're heading in the journey great will mackenzie. Thank you so much spending the time on the show. I've i've really enjoyed it. I'm it's super. Scientists say someone advanced from a wifi enabled kettle to a talking robot so congratulations on that front. I look forward to you changing the lives and the communication of the ever-increasing edgy population in which we live inside. Yes i think so much for your time and say what you do for everybody out there. 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Imperfect call: Trumps exoneration

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22:56 min | 1 year ago

Imperfect call: Trumps exoneration

"Hello and welcome to the intelligence on economist. Radio I'm your host Jason Palmer every weekday we. You provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world for all of scientists successes and understanding standing complex systems. Rains are still mostly terra. INCOGNITA maybe not for long researchers published a staggering map of every single neural connection within a section of a fruit flies rain and east Africa is suffering an invasion of locusts of nearly biblical proportions hundreds of billions of the insects threatening foods at lies and lives across the entire region. The sad truth is that much of this plague could have been prevented first up. Though Mr Morand not guilty Ms Murkowski yesterday America's Senate voted to acquit president. Donald trump on charges of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress said Donald John Trump be and he is hereby acquitted of the charges instead articles. It was the third such trial in the nation's history in December. The House of Representatives voted to impeach Mr Trump after he was accused of soliciting foreign interference in the two thousand twenty election speaker of the House I solemnly and sadly opened opened the debate on the impeachment of the president of the United States. The Senate trial lasted just three weeks. And no witnesses were called without objection. The motion is agree. Three to the Senate sitting as a court of impeachment stands adjourn sine die as had been predicted for so long Republicans stuck by the president while Democrats voted to remove him. The vote was almost entirely along party. Lines John Fong is the economists. Washington correspondent the only defection. Was Mitt Romney. A who is a Republican senator from Utah. He was his party's presidential nominee in two thousand twelve. He found president. Trump guilty of abuse of power corrupting and election to keep oneself in office is perhaps the most abusive and destructive violation of one's oath of office that I can imagine he gave really a very very moving speech on the Senate floor about why he reached this conclusion. I'm sure to hear abuse from the president and his supporters. Does anyone seriously believe that I would consent to these consequences. Other than from an inescapable conviction that my oath before God demanded of me any voted for removal on the first article and on the second article obstruction of Congress. It was a straight was a straight party line vote and Mr Trump is already trailing a victory speech. He'll give later today today. He's going to claim total exoneration. Well yes the jury has found not guilty. And that's that's how a trial works if you're not guilty you're exonerated now. At the same time. The president was impeached. And he is one of three presidents that has been impeached. And that's certainly part of his legacy but he clearly feels himself to be exonerated. Just ask the Senate acquitted him. He posted this meam of trump. Twenty Four Twenty eight twenty thirty two yard signs and I was at his rally in Des Moines on Thursday night and I heard him make a similar. The joke about staying in office for another ten fourteen eighteen years New York times when we leave and ten fourteen eighteen eighteen twenty two years from now the New York Times. We'll be out of business so well a lot of and you know Susan Collins Senator from Maine said she was voting not guilty but but thought he'd be chastened they she thought he'd learned a lesson and when he heard about Susan Collins comments he said again that his call was perfect is calling his lengthy was perfect so he clearly really thinks he's been exonerated and we should expect it will act as though he's been exonerated. How much of an issue do you think it is that the Senate was able to acquit him without hearing from witnesses? I mean objectively. Can this be called. Fair trial No it was not a fair trial fair. Trials Jurors do not coordinate with defendant. Trials have witnesses now. I think it was a mistake for Democrats mkx rats not to allow the process to play out in court and I think for member impeachment is not strictly a legal proceeding say. It's a political process with a sort of legal structure but Republicans had this double headed argument right on the one hand. They said. The Democrats had no first-hand witnesses who testified what the president it didn't said but they also blocked any first-hand witnesses from testifying and so that in my view makes it not a terribly fair trial. And what about that argument that he may have done all the things he was accused of. But that those offenses weren't actually impeachable. Defense laid out in in most fantastical form by Alan Dershowitz on the president's legal team. Well I mean the Dershowitz Line Line that impeachment requires criminal. Criminal behavior is clearly wrong. Richard Nixon was nearly impeached for abuse of power. Which of course in the crime? One of the articles against Andrew Johnson who was impeached in eighteen sixty six was that he spoke with a loud voice. Certain intemperate inflammatory and scandalous harangues with the intent to disgrace Congress and that also isn't a crime and some constitutional scholars may disagree on whether what President Trump himself did in. This case was impeachable but nobody actually believes that impeachment requires a crime crime and Gerald Ford said best and impeachable offense is what ever majority of the House believes to be an impeachable offense and I strongly suspected if the parties were reversed. I if you say Barack Obama had asked Ukraine to dig up dirt on Mitt Romney in two thousand twelve when Republicans control the house they would impeach the president quite quickly and much of that was because because Republicans fell in line so completely behind him after just a few murmurs of dissent anyway. Why do you think it is that? They showed that unity in the end. I think it was out of fear mostly and and it's not just me saying that shared Brown Democratic senator from Ohio wrote in today's New York Times that his colleagues know what the president did was wrong and is spoken with Republicans in Congress off the record they are far more critical and sometimes even derisory of president trump in private than they ever would be public Tim Alberta who writes for Politico Oh wrote that even retiring Republicans worry that if they cross trump that could affect their earning power once they're out of office in their standing in their community they're largely Republicans communities I'm so they stay quiet. Will Ukraine tail has been pretty all consuming but but ever since the campaign there have been all sorts of murky legal matters about Mr Trump relating to Russia to paid off porn stars to tax returns. Surely his legal troubles aren't over here. You Know Donald Trump is spent a lot of his life entangled in legal proceedings of one sort or another. I'd be loath to ever say. Legal troubles are entirely over and remember. The house can keep investigating him. Jerry Nadler the house. Judiciary chairman said today that his committee might subpoena John Bolton President. Trump's that's former national security adviser so I don't think Democrats will impeach him again but neither do. I think he's out of the legal weeds. I mean he's denied each and every allegation of wrongdoing and his base buys those denials. Do you think this whole impeachment. Tobacco will have any effect on November's elections honestly. I think it'll be ancient history by November and Democrats might prefer it that that way his approval ratings of ticked up during impeachment and when they took back the house in two thousand eighteen. It wasn't because of president trump's malfeasance because moderate Democrats in swing districts ran on healthcare on another sort of tangible issues. And I've spent the last two weeks on the campaign trail in Iowa New Hampshire and I have not had a single conversation with voter about impeachment. I think the Democratic candidates were probably fundraise off impeachment. The left is always happy to tell us how awful president trump is but to voters who will determine the congressional majority and really the Presidency's voters in swing states swing districts. I don't think so matter very much but surely wrongdoing has been widely admitted but the the bar for impeach ability has evidently been raised still has the power to alter the presidency to alter the executive power. Well I think that's the fear. President trump has invited invited foreign intervention in American elections. He asked Ukraine to interfere in an American election. He stood on the White House lawn and as China to interfere in America. Let's I started investigation into the by because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with With Ukraine and Russia meddling in the election in two thousand sixteen and they have paid no price for doing so so I think that we are all but assured of seeing gene foreign intervention on a massive scale the twenty twenty election another concern is the sort of St the shape of what President Trump did yesterday morning. I was in New Hampshire right and I saw a Bernie Sanders rally gets away with it. Sanders said that the president can now say to governor of the state. You know we have all this infrastructure money for you and you'll you'll get it when you endorse me. That's using the power of the presidency for your own in this case personal and political benefit that is unconstitutional channel. And that should not be allowed. And that's essentially what the president did was Celeski and that apparently is now completely fine presidents can now Slough Congressional wrestles subpoenas the scope of congressional oversight has dramatically narrowed. So I think in the in the near term at least the scope of the presidency is dramatically more expensive than it was before he can do things that he could not before. Thanks very much for your time John. Thanks Jason always good to be here. Science has developed some staggering abilities to peer into an Parse is complex biological systems. But brains remain a daunting subject of study. Mapping even the tiniest portion of one requires painstaking work work that until recently was done by hand last month. Scientists published fast three-dimensional Brain Map twelve years in the making that opens up a new frontier. Okay should I start now okay. So I'm looking at my laptop and typing in the URL for Genelius campus website. ALEC JAW is economist. Science correspondent what I'm looking at here is Split split-screen on the website and on the left there is what looks like. It's like a splatter painting basically multiple colors dots lines mine's a crazy Jackson pollock. And then if you click on one of the dots on the right you get what looks like. Quite complex root system and what he actually is is a brain cell submarines hell of a fruit fly and all the connections to the other brain cells in the Free Pie. Lie and you can spin it round is a three rendering and it's real so real it's all real and it's pretty but tell me why it's important so this is a research tools it's been about twelve years in the making it's what they call a connected home of part of the brain free flying home is simply the position and all the links between the the neurons nerve cells of an organism in this case. It's one third of the fruit fly brain much. They're calling the Hemi brain. They're all twenty-five thousand brain cells in that around on twenty million connections or sign ups between them and the concept. Is that if you can understand. How brain is wired? You will then know y behaves in the way else else. And this. Kind of mapping of the brain cells and their connections has never been done before. No it's incredibly difficult to do. And the only creature that's had its connect completely map limited worm which is tiny and it's much much less complicated is the back in the eighty S. The netted worm had its connect. Thome Matt there's only around three hundred neurons and something like seven thousand connections and that was done painstakingly to slice very thin slices of the Sir worm stained them so you could see the brain cells and then essentially use colored pencils to mark with a niff- cells were and the connections between them. I mean it took a long time time and is incredibly hardware. So that's the only one previously. They've been very very small chunks of mouse brain millimeter cube. That's have had some resolution connect home done but nothing like this so why do fruitfully well. So the fruit fly is the classic model organism for all of biological research. I mean it was one of the first things that had his is jeanine sequenced and a lot of the brain systems within it. So navigation sleep all. Those things are similar to higher order animals. And so it's a great test organism house salsa. It's a tractable problem. The fruit fly has something like one hundred thousand neurons in his brain. We've done the same now. Twenty five thousand as the mouse brain has something like one hundred million in Europe which is many orders magnitude higher the human brain something like one hundred billion neurons so the through five brain something that you can actually might be able to achieve in the technology we have. Well that's just it. If the NEMATODE experiments on just three hundred neurons took all that time with the slicing and the colored pencils and so on. How was this done? Surely not the same thing. No so you needed. Quite lot improvement. They use the scanning electro microscope. But I very specific one which used ions of galleons charged gullion particles sort of at a few atoms thick of brain and then the scanning electron actually take a picture and then the beam Gotti minds would come back and take off another a few atoms. There's how they got the pictures and then to actually go through the pictures that I mean if you had humans doing that they calculated that it would take something like two she one hundred years of full time scientists effort to go through and map all these connections. I mean we're talking about dozens of people which is really not possible so they I use what we call us now for the machine learning Google Algorithms in object segmentation we used to identify where the neurons were in a image Where there might be an Exxon connecting whether my sinuses and it took with fifty proofreaders human proofreaders? This algorithm took about two years to go through. What must have been several million of these scouting electron microscope? Pictures and then it stitched altogether into this three D model. Okay so with all of this painstaking work behind us. What what good is is the connecting besides being the besides being an impressive piece of work so for example the researchers at Genia Look at behaviors of animals. It might try and work out. How a fruit fly navigates in space for example and so they know setting of neurons are involved in that and send send yours virus at times now there are theoretical models to say which neurons firing and which ones are connected to which ones and so on? But that's theoretical we actually seen these connections nations vice by looking at the the accidents between the brain cells by looking at the sign up sell which ones are actually firing. You got a whole level of insight under this is true all they have been correct but having the connected home than for more complex animals is surely required. If we're going to get to to some insights about those more complex animals I mean how about come about right so the technology has to a lot better before we get to what we're interested in which is human connectors so human connect homes. Humans have something like eighty to one hundred a billion Europeans and many more connections between them. The thing is that that will take decades to get to Jerry. Rubin who is the scientists behind this connects next. I'm he's head to the media lab. He says that it will take at least another ten years. Before the Mouse Canaletto can happen and the mouse anyhow some hundred million neurons and probably another decade of I say before we are in a place where machine learning algorithms with microscopy where that technology is good enough to do one human brain and actually. That's not even enough off. What we want is many human brains bill to compare because the real insights of connector fix are going to be? What's the difference between my brain your brain? What's the difference between my brain and a brain without Siamese for example and that kind of thing might help you understand what happens in different types of Raynham an white goes wrong sometimes and and so that seems exceedingly difficult now but then again this result that we're looking at today seemed exceedingly difficult if not impossible back not correct and the human connector and he's GonNa be very very hard? It's absolutely not impossible. Our thank you very much for joining us. Your Jason So the Horn of Africa is experiencing a grave invasion of locusts vast asked swarms have overwhelmed farms in Ethiopia and Somalia or the problem is the worst. It's been in a quarter century in Kenya. The worst in seventy years the insects are wiping out vital crops in a region already struggling with food insecurity this week Somalia declared a state of emergency. Its Agriculture Minister saying we risk risk severe food crisis that we cannot afford these locust infestations in east Africa actually the worst in a couple of decades the scare really as vassal also one swarm at recently seen in northeastern Kenya had around two hundred billion Lucas. And that's about in spacial terms three times. The size of New York City never dozens of swarms in Kenya Learn Kinley Salmon reports on Africa for the Economist. Perhaps the worst thing about this is that certainly some of this could have been prevented. And so what kind of damage to do swarms of this size wreak. Oh well the damage can be pretty devastating bosa crops but also the vegetation that animals feed on about about twelve million people in Kenya Ethiopia. Mali already classed as suffering from food insecurity at a pretty large scale and let us make this a lot worse. They crops like maize teff Jeff from staples in the region and so it's really a threat for people's livelihoods. How has it come to this well? This set of locus sit of swarms can actually be traced back into the Arabian Peninsula. Back in two thousand eighteen and the FAO that the Food and Agriculture Organization of the UN warned in July of two thousand nineteen. These swarms could migrate out of Yemen into the Horn of Africa and ultimately into Kenya. If no action was taken they appealed to the international community for funding to try and deal with the problem back in Yemen but very little support fort came forward and then of course he's did reach Ethiopia where farmers lost one hundred zero crops in some cases. Into what did Ethiopia do at the time. Well they certainly tried in to tackle the problem but the scale of overwhelmed the resources that they had and so in September of twenty nine thousand nine they asked the FA Oh for help and raising about two million dollars to tackle Kallit by November. They were asking for six million dollars but again little support was forthcoming and then of course. Now we're in Kenya and recently the UN has asked facility million dollars to try to spray these swarms at a now moving around very rapidly from the F. at suddenly got a lot more expensive. And so what is it. That's made these. These swarms so big well. Firstly the trouble is these insects breed incredibly rapidly. They only live for three to five months but unfavorable conditions each generation can be twenty times larger than the previous one. They also move very quickly. They can move up to one hundred fifty kilometers a day but there are other issues too so some of the prevention that would normally happen has been made more difficult caught by conflict that's ongoing in Somalia and also in Yemen and then I think importantly with the has played a role here so extreme weather. They've been eight cyclones in the northern notion In two thousand nineteen which is the worst since nineteen seventy six. That kind of weather brings rain that creates vegetation for locusts to feed on and when they feed they can breed more and more. And so you say that a lot of this could have been prevented. You mean if the two million dollars could have been raised. When this was a smaller problem in Ethiopia or actually even earlier there was this request for funds back in Yemen and at that point? It it's easy to tackle these swamps when they're not flying when they're still just hopping on the ground and also before the population has really boomed that stage. They can even be. He tackled would spring on foot or vehicles which can can get some of the crisis tackled. There was a previous crisis in two thousand three through two thousand five North West Africa. The go pretty out of control and that in the in cost six hundred million dollars in control and coolest about two point. Five billion dollars worth of damage an expense. Tell us that that's six hundred million in dollars was spent on control would enough for one hundred and seventy years of preventative measures in the same region. So prevention really is much more cost effective. So why doesn't it happen. We'll prevention is not as exciting for the donors like to help out with big emergencies and things that get the TV news and Israel so slow then locusts. You know by the time. They've got moving on the Chris can get out of control and do. Do you have a sense for how this particular crisis will be resolved. Well clearly right now. There's an urgent need full of that. That funding The UN is appealed for that seventy million to upscale spraying. That's beginning to happen and also support for livelihood for people that have been affected but there is a real risk that this could get worse before it gets better the FAA says that these Lucas could increase in population by five hundred times by June and may also affect other countries northern Uganda and south Al-Sudan both potentially at risk from these infestations has a real need for action. Bright Away can thank you very much for joining us. Thank you And that's all for this episode of the intelligence if you like us. Give us a rating on Apple podcasts. And you can subscribe to the Economist. Economist economist Dot com slash radio offer twelve issues for twelve dollars or twelve pounds. See you back here tomorrow yeah.

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FIRST WORDS: Why Amazing Race Canada winners want you to learn Indigenous languages

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19:19 min | 1 year ago

FIRST WORDS: Why Amazing Race Canada winners want you to learn Indigenous languages

"This is a CBC podcast Jain. How are you going along. Which is I love you. Keep going into they for don't touch this is first words and indigenous language podcast by unreserved. Jot got a which is a greeting me which which means thank you. My name is Anthony Johnson. I'm of the French Canadian people born for the many goats clan french-canadian donut initially as a fun of bus. This is gene Polish Tasha Cheo Cini Dushan Nila a good Eggert than initially Anthony Johnson Eunice Shah dancer into temptation Takla Nicaragua Mark. I'm Dick Hill up there stig whiskey now basis new. We Win Nicotine Yeah. It's so good to to be in studio today. My name is James Mikus. I'm from the satellite cremation in northeastern Alberta. My creams are Eagle Walker her little boy drum James. Should we share the big news. Should we shared Tim. Algemeen looks big accomplishment. I don't know we won the amazing amazing race Canada. OUR TEAM NAME IS T. Mok Amok which refers to many many people not giving up and persevering and continuing in the face of adversity in any challenges engine at any cost where you think you're not going to be able to go through it. Automates Ma is a singular you would refer to one person. Aga May Muck DOC is referring to many people and for me in particular this was so important because when I was in medical school in university because I was in school for thirteen years and it got really tough because of just the academic rigor of things or you know working the thirty six hour shift as a resident physician or experiencing racism or different things like that that come up as barriers and challenges and we wanted to give up that my family would bring us home you know even if it was for a weekend and arrange a ceremony armonia for us whether that was thoughts on my inquiry means to cry. Madison is the crying lodge or the sweat lodge where we go to help ourselves. Let's be connected with Geek rescued mother Earth. It's like a womb to be connected with that again and there's many teachings in that but they would arrange for that and and our elders and we'd go home they'd be like Aga may know some don't give up my grandchild and they they would be so so encouraging for for me my sister and so being on the mat and and winning was a win for them and it was a win for many people across the country entry many digits people and it was a win for my grandparent's and grandmothers and whistles who have taught me many things about how to be a good person who are no longer with us and so that's the way it was so significant because it represented embody many experiences for many people but Anthony actually came up with the name so some people know that we got married during a marathon and James loves Iran. He's done like sixteen or seventeen marathon that it was my first and but I'm not like you know Anthony where you're going to do this Saturday like you will never hear me be like I'm going for a run like it's not the thing that I want to do. I have to do it to maintain health but I was out running. One day and I came back. He's like you went for a run and I was like yes. Yes I went for a run and there was this point in the run where I wanted to give up and we had been talking about our name. We knew we were going to be on this. Show and we were like what what would be significant what what would make sense and during that run. I came back and I was like I know what our team isn't. It's team Aga may because I didn't want to give up. I went for because the training started for the race months before I was like we have to get ready. I WANNA run. I don't want to let my husband down so I was out reading and the cool who thing about me. Mark is that it's easy to say it's a fun word but this word and this phrase and this idea existed many languages and so the beauty of of Our Name and this is the first place where sharing is that. T- Maga may is an anthony and James team is every person out in the world who doesn't WanNa give up and who wants to keep going so it could be team wet day in Spanish like that strength that Dr Team team get her done or even give her giver team. Giver in English like it's idea that refused to give up because we believe and we have strength and we're worthy and we won't stop because why should the people that were holding up on their shoulders who were with us in spirit who were running beside. I'd US and we could deal them doing that. Like all of the people I was thinking this morning you know who might have attended residential schools and who didn't have the the opportunity to experience amazing things and do whatever they wanted and have the freedom and liberation to live their lives in a way that they were meant to buy creator because of federal real policy or who couldn't even run away from residential schools are who tried to run away like my grandfather when he was five and who ran about one hundred fifty kilometers. There's a five year old from Edmonton to where we were that we were doing it for all of them and we embodied that for for them. We embodied og amok. Don't give up which is something that our elders always told us when things got hard and it was important to have that in our team name yeah and you know you see them you to the Mat and the physical sensation is elation and what that feels like as if you think about the shape of a lightning in both like a zigzag shape there's multiple of those verb rating through your body like pushing you up and you feel the sense of joy and elation like like that's what it is you're on cloud nine and then your minds clear and then there was a point where I looked at our other racers and I made eye contact with art the sisters here's and I saw tears and you'll see on the show that the Matt was sat behind the backdrop of this beautiful lake and suddenly that energy settled within my body push out through my fee and kind of spread out among the earth where we were at and and the only thing to do in that moment was to respect the people who helped guide our path to that place and the ability to be connected addicted to that energy the ability to understand what that feels like and the ability for me to express that now is one hundred percent the result of speaking are indigenous languages because the process of indigenous languages the thing that creates inside your mind is is a connection to energy and space and people and time and water elements and animals and plants in a way that other languages don't do that and that's why I love indigenous languages and that's why it's so important for them to be alive for them to continue because access to that part of the mind and access to that part of the spirit enables us to be better people and that's the social technology that indigenous people across across the world have preserved through their languages through their rights through their ceremonies through their songs through their practices and it's so important that these things survive because it's not only technology. It's a piece of the human heritage and we have to protect at all costs because it's unique and special and it's important so this year at the United Nations it's the International Year of indigenous languages and we thought it was very fitting to have our own name be from an indigenous language to represent that first and foremost I because of the importance of that to our people but also to encourage non-indigenous people to also learn indigenous languages because is the are there the original languages of this continent English and French our second into that and whatever territory that you live in you should be able to communicate in greeting or an way that is respectful of the original people of off that particular area because that is their territory that they never gave up we agreed to share this territory in treaty and as a good treaty partner you should learn the languages of the people that live there as well and one thing thinking about that is it's been really interesting to see you know our settlers friends or as some people woke settlers invokes a picture of a pilgrim oh girl but big. I'm awake. We woke sellers but it's fun to hear them. Try and say and one of the things that I see as sometimes there's a fear or there's a reputation like I don't WanNa. Use Your language because it's not mine and we've taken so much and the thing is when you're using someone's languages. It's an extension into their heart and say I want to acknowledge you in a way that significant and meaningful to you and please use it. Please say please try A. and say something because it's a connection. It's an olive branch. It's a bridge towards being together but the cool thing is that many people already say many the indigenous words that they don't even realize and so. That's the cool thing about them. Because many places across turtle island are from Indigenous Languages Guy Notch Agai- which means to describe a clean place is how some people interpret how the word candidate came but also it can be described as a village in another indigenous languages which is in the eastern part of this country or Manitoba is from Manitou a bit where creators sat and there's a very symbolic place in that area which is the center of this land which is where treaty one comes from which is why treaty wants stems there because it needed to be there which is our teachings about that then next so that is the schedule which is from the sketch which is the fast flowing river or waters which originated in glaciers of US anyway the mountains tunes were the glaciers are from which we say the thunderbirds are from and importance of that and so there's many different places even if it's Chicago. It's like a quick which is from cree he describes the smell like skunk was built on a swamp or Mississippi Mississippi be the big waters which describes the that river and so there's many different places across the land and that just that tells people that indigenous people just didn't live on a reserve. We're not supposed to live on reserves or living or whole territory and have access excess to those as well learning our way when which is how we say our original language is is so important for me and other young Navio Mahela people. That's how we describe ourselves in our own language. It's not cre- it's nausea. NATO which is people over the four directions or for bodied human beings which describes in our history on Turtle Island when are people came together after a great flood that was in this land so it gives insight into the historical context and timeline of events on turtle island before that we were everybody was called is seen a walk which is the original human beings and after this great event then all of these different nations emerged emerged from that so because people my age and I'm GonNa give my age away but late thirties I was the oldest this person on the amazing race Canada at the end because people my age and younger in our in my community in particular in many indigenous nations winds across Canada are among the first cohort or group of people who don't speak our language fluently. There is a huge you pressure on us to retain our languages for future generations and learn it as quickly as possible while also maintaining a life in the twenty first century and having a job and being successful in doing all of these things so it's very stressful to there's a lot of pressure on our shoulders others to do this because our language speakers are getting fewer and fewer although Nah Nah Nah he always win has five dialects across the land and there are many thousands of language speakers the retention of it and the transfer of it to the next generation is something that's hugely important so very near and dear to our heart we we do many things to try to learn and maintain our languages coming to treaty six territory settler too. I'm from this land. You know I'm that's how we call ourselves in their language means. People are relatives are up here. They call themselves. DNA and our languages are like they're not identical but they're the same language group they on exactly you know very similar and it's also connected to Apache and so the process of learning cree for me has been a couple of things one of them is its utility because I'm in another other nation. I'm in Canada so I have to like learn and abide by all those rules but I'm married to an annual person and so I have to learn and abide by those IOS rules as well because there's a different legal system that governs our lives and so- languages is out of necessity for that and it's fun but it's also also interesting to know what part of my psyche and my body and my spirit is opened by learning and connecting to the cree language language relates took place and the you know a really easy word you ask someone where they're from the Jiechi. Ah where is his from your belly button Nazi where does your bloodline stem from where are you from translated and that describes the importance of many things that describes the importance of women as the carrier of our bloodlines and how that's connected physically to the land when they put the Placenta back on the land and reclaim that so that their child is grounded to their territory in their identity and language culture and medicines and everything that stem from that and so there's many things and teachings that are in indigenous languages that get mistranslated and lost when it's converted into English or a non indigenous indigenous language and it loses the spirit and description of it and our language is a spiritual language that was gifted to US indigenous people directly from the Creator which is why it's important for us to continue to speak them and that primarily was gifted to women as the first first teachers of their our children their children to have that responsibility and carry that bundle. It's the women and indigenous people aw who have the responsibility to carry our language and it is not the responsibility of the federal government or any government and to be legislating about indigenous languages because they do not own our languages we own our languages and the creator gifted them to us so if anyone is going to make laws about our languages indigenous people ourselves. I'll just end with she. thank you my relations and a cool phrase central to Navajo philosophy in our thinking and our prayers are ceremonies. Nagendra go Nasha so asja Miss Johnnie Beautiful Nasha means to go but not Jeanette. Does it mean physical beauty or superficial beauty beauty it describes deep harmonic resonance of Peace Prosperity Balance and so if you think about your life you know increasingly incre- they say the sweetgrass trail that caught the red road for us. It's your lifelock genre. Go Nuts Shah along that walk along every single single. Stop beauty above you. Below you in front of you behind you to your sides all around you and live in that deep harmonic piece. I'm Anthony I'm James T Maga may Moke and where the winners of the amazing race Canada season seven they for more C._B._C. podcasts go to C._B._C. Dot C._A. Slash podcasts.

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Notes on a reported US cyberattack against Iran. A look at Secondary Infektion. And some cases of cyber stalking.

The CyberWire

19:10 min | 1 year ago

Notes on a reported US cyberattack against Iran. A look at Secondary Infektion. And some cases of cyber stalking.

"The US said to have conducted cyber attacks against Iranian targets related to recent Iranian moves in the Gulf. These cyber operations are also said to have been a covert, alternative to conventional military strikes. The Atlantic Council describes secondary. Infect she on a Russian disinformation campaign that begins obscurely then depends upon amplification? I dig into the details of blue keep with Joe Kerrigan and a case of cyber stalking in Minnesota goes to court. And now a few words from our sponsor. No, before everyone knows that multi factor, authentication, or MFA is more secure than a simple. Log in name and password. But too many people think that MFA is a perfect unpack -able solution. It isn't learn from Roger Grimes no before data driven defensive Angeles in an on demand. Webinar will he'll explore twelve ways. Hackers can and do get around your favorite MFA solution. The webinar includes a hacking demo by no before chief hacking, officer, Kevin Mitnick and real life successful examples of every attack type it will end by telling you how to better defend your MFA solution so that you get maximum benefit and security, go to know before dot com slash MFA to watch the webinar. That's. K. N. O. W. B E, numeral four dot com slash MFA, and we thank no before for sponsoring our show. Funding for this cyber wire podcast is made possible in part by extra hob, providing cyber analytics for the hybrid enterprise. Learn more about how extra help reveal X enables network threat detection, and response at extra hop dot com. From the cyber wire studios. Data tribe, I'm Dave bittner with your cyber wire summary for Monday, June twenty-fourth twenty nineteen U S cyber command is said to have conducted offensive operations against Iranian targets, as a reprisal for Tehran's attacks on commercial shipping in the Gulf of Oman. And for the shootdown of a US, Global Hawk unmanned drone yahu, which broke the story. Late Friday said the attacks were directed against an Iranian intelligence unit responsible for supporting attacks against shipping by tracking tanker traffic, thus the retaliation would be tuned to the attacks on shipping. The specific Iranian agency was unnamed, but it said to be associated with the revolutionary guard on Saturday. The Washington Post was more specific about the alleged US cyber attack. Reporting that US cyber command had disabled Iranian rocket and missile launch control systems in the region which if true would suggest a direct response. To the Global Hawk shootdown as opposed to the attacks on tankers. The New York Times is source. Tell it that cyber command hit both the intelligence unit that supported the tanker attacks and missile launch systems. So the US retaliation may have been tuned to both the recent Iranian actions. The cyber attack was a source says, approved by President Trump, the reports are all source to at least three anonymous sources said to be US officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to comment publicly. It's worth noting that this doesn't necessarily mean they were leakers since comment on background might have been authorized in any case. The story is still developing and all reports should be received with a degree of circumspection. How a missile launch system or a missile control system might be susceptible to cyber attack is by no means obvious as the reporting seems to assume some shorter range air defense missiles, and much larger number of surface to surface missiles are as difficult to hack as a rifle bullet, but if a missile depended upon communication, with the ground station for guidance and many medium and longer range systems do than it might be more vulnerable than a weapon whose guidance was self contained the Iranian system, may use such communication, Iran says the system used to knock down the drone was a Cordell missile defense system that Iran says can detect targets at ranges of one hundred fifty kilometers track them at one hundred twenty kilometers, and engage them at eighty five kilometers, the interception is a Siad three missile thought to have been developed from the American SM, one standard missile which Iran received during the days of the Shah how. Networked and vulnerable. The core dad's system might be is controversial until recently, there had been doubts that the system was even a real weapon as opposed to a Potemkin system built for PR consumption. But the claim that the system was interfered with in some way, is at least plausible the argue four that Iran shutdown was, by the way, US navy drone, not an air force asset as some early reports had it US central command and the US navy have referred inquiries to US cyber command which has declined to comment for reasons of operational security, Iran has promised a firm response to any US aggression, Tehran. Also claims that the US did indeed attempt to cyber attack. But that the attack failed we stress again that this story is still developing. Also on Saturday, the US cyber security, and infrastructure security agency, cisa warned that Iran has increased the tempo of its cyber attacks against US targets. Cisa warned in particular, that Iran could be expected to engage in wiper attacks. These gain access to target networks through familiar criminal methods, particularly phishing, passwords, spraying and credential stuffing, but their aim is data destruction, not theft, the Shimun attack against Saudi Aramco in twenty twelve widely attributed to Iran was an example of a wiper attack. Cisa has collected advice for staying safe in the face of such threats on their website. It's good advice, anytime not just during periods of heightened alert. So it's worth visit. The atlantic. Council's digital forensic research laboratory, the DFL has a report out on a Russian disinformation campaign. They're calling the campaign secondary infect Sione after the late Soviet era operation, infect Cione, which published that disinformation that aids was a US bio war project, which of course, it wasn't, and isn't secondary infects. He owns goal appears to be the now, customary ones of inducing mistrust, and division, along various cultural faultlines secondary. Infect Seon is interesting in that it began by placing stories in obscure corners of the internet's hinterlands, which then amplified through Facebook accounts, and ultimately in the state media outlet RT, the D, F, R, L aknowledges that it doesn't have access to Facebook's back end data. But they attribute secondary. Infects Yonne to Russian actors on circumstantial textual and linguistic grounds patching. For blue. Keep seems to be up it appears that users of affected. Microsoft products, may finally be heating the many warnings from Microsoft, cisa, an essay and others. A police officer in Minnesota has been awarded five hundred eighty five thousand dollars in a lawsuit against the city of Minneapolis and two of her police colleagues, who were among dozens of officers who had been improperly accessing her department of motor vehicles records of isolation of the state's driver's privacy Protection Act. The snooping was apparently Qripoli motiveless cyber stalking for the lulls. Unfortunately, we end with very sad story. How far motiveless indeed even anonymous malice can go was tragically on display. Recently were catfish working from Indiana allegedly induced, a teenager in Alaska to kill a friend, and send the cat Fisher a report on the murder, according to reports by the Anchorage, daily news. The alleged catfish is one Darren Schill Miller, a twenty one year old living in new Salisbury. Indiana who presented himself as a millionaire named Tyler from Kansas. She'll Miller is said to have cultivated, an online relationship with eighteen year old Denali, Bremmer and allegedly induced, her to send him texts describing abuse of minors. Authorities say he then combined blackmail with an offer of nine million dollars to get Bremmer to commit a murder for him. Any murder apparently would do. She'll Miller remember was out of Indiana had nothing but an online connection with Bremmer or any Bremmer acquaintances. But he's none. The less said to have guided the selection of the victim, Bremmer allegedly recruited three other teenagers to help her murder, Cynthia Hoffmann. Authorities say she'll Miller told them he and Bremmer had been planning a murder for about three weeks. Hoffman described as a trusting young woman whose learning disabilities rendered her develop. Mentally younger than her nineteen years, had considered Bremmer her best friend, an Anchorage grand jury indicted, the six young people involved on June fourteenth they're charged with murder in the first degree conspiracy to commit murder, and murder in the second degree. Bremmer and show. Miller have also been charged with an additional count of solicitation to commit murder. We've said alleged a lot in describing the story, but one thing is certain and not at all alleged poor. Cynthia Hoffman was shot dead. And then abandoned near the ACLU river, she wanted friends thought her friend Bremmer was cool and was looking forward to getting her learner's driver's permit soon. The story is unbelievably heartbreaking and our hearts, go out to the Hoffman, family, and should you see anyone sliding into the kind of maligned digital world Bremmer and she'll Miller apparently inhabited please do what you can to pull them out of it. And now a few words from our sponsor, Dragos the leaders in industrial cyber security technology threats to industrial organizations are proliferating as Drago's recently identified the most dangerous threat to ICS Zena time the activity group behind triceps has expanded its targeting beyond oil and gas illustrating, a trend that will likely continue for other ICS targeting adversaries. Learn more about the eight public threat activity groups Drago's tracks at Drago's dot com slash adversaries. And how taking an intelligence driven approach to ICS security is the most comprehensive defensive strategy to combat industrial adversaries to register for a free, thirty day trial of dre Ghosh's, ICS Strelitz, visit Drago's dot com slash worldview. And we thank Drago's for sponsoring our show. And joining me once again, as Joe Kerrigan, he's from the Johns Hopkins, University information Security Institute. And also my co host on the hacking, humans podcast, Joe, it's great to have you back low, Dave, I was listening last week. Yeah. Okay. About two thousand one give me a hard time about two thousand one I just think it was awesome that you had that sound on your computer. That said, I'm sorry. Dave. I can't do that. I wish there was something as cool for for guys named Joe. Yeah. Well, there isn't so so I wanted to in today and talk to you about blue. Keep it seems as though it's getting escalating tension like this is well, it should actually, so what do we need to know last week, the security, and infrastructure security, agency, which is part of the department of homeland security issued in alert for this. So what is blue keep it's a vulnerability in the remote desktop protocol of older versions of the windows operating system. So for user, oh, S's its windows, XP windows, two thousand vista and seven okay. So eight and ten or not vulnerable for servers, its server two thousand three and two thousand eight both the base versions, and the are two versions, okay? Okay. And RTP was used for what is remote desktop protocol? So if you wanna connect to windows machine like you're sitting at the windows machine, but you don't wanna physically get up and go to the windows, machine us already pay. So I could use this to log into my work computer from home or log into different machine where I work, you have to actually be sitting in front of. And that's really what it's used for its use for systems administrators. Because if you have to go down to the server room, every time you have to make change to a server or at a user change something that's a lot of time to get a lot of exercise. Right. Right. So this is MS tres programmers. We, we don't like the move. Okay. So are there to solve that problem? Right. This phone ability, which is so severe that Microsoft saw fit to issue, a patch for windows XP which at end of life over five years ago. Yeah. Okay. But there's still people out there using it, don't know if that has anything to do with how easy it is to fix it and issue the patch. But I tend to think it has more to do with the severity of this of this issue. Okay. So if, if somebody exploits, this vulnerability, they can do, just about anything, they can add accounts with full user rights, so there's a computer with RDP open to the internet. An attacker, could just add a new account, and then go in and log into that account as administrator. Oh, okay. And just take full control of it. They can also view change delete data and also install programs. So, yeah, so they own the machine right? Requires no user interaction, which is why blue keep is considered to be warm -able. I put quotes around warm -able basically, what that means is, it's possible to write a program that infects one system. And once it infects that system, it looks around for other systems to infect and then goes off and infects that system, so lateral movement within a network or lateral movement, grow just across the internet cross the internet. I see. That's how this is going to spread, and it is going to spread fast, once one of these worms developed that, and that's really bad news. This is something we've seen before. Right. The turtle blue vulnerability allowed the same kind of thing to happen with wannacry and not pesha. That's how those ransomware packages spread. Right. Was using a another vulnerability called eternal blue. And I like the way how they're all using the word blue in them that makes it really to differentiate them in your head. I think we should come up with a better scheme. Yeah. Things, what are we talking about in terms of the time line here, this voter Billy was announced on may fourteenth which was the same day that, Microsoft released a patch for it? So it looks like somebody found the voting disclosed at the Microsoft, and Microsoft said, we're gonna develop patch for this, and now that we had the patch released go ahead and announce owner ability. Right. What's interesting is later in may. We started seeing tons of scans coming out looking for RDP ports. Open on computers on the internet from tore notes. Okay. Now tours in anonymously network. Right. So there's somebody operating in that network that is looking for our DP hosts so they probably don't have an exploit ready for it yet. Right. Right. But they're building up their list of places to go. Once they have that exploit, and that software written. And if I were going to do this, I would make that list available to the software, somehow. I'm not gonna waste time scanning machines with RTP open. I'm just gonna go to the list that I know that these are open. Yeah. I've done the research other. Yeah. Sure. Make sense that we start seeing some people who have proof of concept exploit. You don't have any payloads in them, but they're out there. There's even get hub repository that has it. And then the NSA issues advisory on June fourth to install the patch. Yeah. So sort of NSA weighing in saying, hey guys, this is serious. You know, have at it. So the NSA comes out and says, says patch this system, the c the CIs a comes out and says patch this patch your systems I'm going to go ahead and say patch, your system. You got on a lean on. That's right. That's a real risky position. Exactly. Oh boy. Now, there are other things you can do if you can't patch the system, right? You can update the end of life operating system to a new operating system. Windows windows. Ten a new version of server like twelve yeah. Yeah, yeah, but it's not everybody can do that, right. Legacy systems that run on windows XP and they run on windows XP devices that were bought twenty years ago. They're still viable medical devices operating system on those computers that runs those things windows XP. Yeah. And those things have RDP enabled they're vulnerable to this attack. Yeah, you can disable the unnecessary services. If you just disable RTP than you've solved the problem that, that kind of mitigates it, you can enable network level authentication K, 'cause this attack, only works on all antiquated sessions. But if you have to authenticate, it won't work, okay? And the last bit of advice in the update from CIs a is blocking the port at the firewall. Okay. Okay. That prevents legitimate connections to RTP though. And it doesn't prevent lateral movement from inside the network. Right. So it's not really a good solution. Okay. Best solution is to patch is patch upgrade. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, I think it's safe to say this is one that deserves people's attention. Absolutely deserves attention. Joe kerrigan? Thanks for joining us pleasure. And that's the cyber wire. Thanks to all of our sponsors for making the cyber wire possible, especially are supporting sponsor observe it the leaving insider threat management platform. Learn more at observe it dot com. Don't forget to check out the grumpy old geeks podcast where I contribute to a regular segment called security. I joined Jason and Brian on their show for a lively discussion of the latest Security News every week, you can find grumpy all geeks where all the fine podcasts are listed, and check out the recorded future podcast, which I also host the subject, there is threatened. And every week, we talked to interesting people about timely cyber-security topics that recorded future dot com slash podcast. The cyber wire podcast is proudly produced in Maryland out of the startup studios of data tribe, where co building the next generation of cybersecurity teams and technology are amazing, cyber wire team is Stefan vizier to make. Smith Kelsey bond, Tim. No. Dr Joe Kerrigan, Nick. Vicki Bennett mo-? John, Patrick, Jennifer, Ivan, Peter Kilty. And I'm Dave bittner? Thanks for listening. We'll see you tomorrow.

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Leveraged-Loan Gloom Is Way Overdone: Eaton Vance PM

P&L With Pimm Fox and Lisa Abramowicz

26:02 min | 2 years ago

Leveraged-Loan Gloom Is Way Overdone: Eaton Vance PM

"Hi, I'm Elizabeth banks, and I've teamed up with State Street global advisors to uncover the bold moves mid cap companies make to thrive and survive, subscribe to our podcast and search crazy enough to work to watch our films street global advisers, funds distributors, LLC. Welcome to the Bloomberg PNO podcast. I'm Pimm FOX along with my co host Lisa Abramowicz each day we bring you the most important note worthy and useful interviews for you and your money, whether you're at the grocery store or the trading floor. Find the Bloomberg PNL podcast on apple podcasts soundcloud and Bloomberg dot com. There have been a lot of gloom and doom stories written about US leveraged loans. Issuance has reached a record pace so far this year, the total outstanding debt has surpassed its sister asset class of US junk bonds, and some people are getting worried about we covenants and other issues joining us. Now to tell us how concerned we really ought to obey is Christopher Remington. He is performed manager at Eaton Vance focusing on leveraged loans which are also called Bank loans, and he joins us now Christopher, thank you so much for being with us. Do you think that the gloom and doom that we've heard this sort of rising risks in the weaker standards? Do you think that that's an accurate portrayal of the asset class? Not really. Lisa, thanks for having us on. Certainly. There's been a going Dory line in the market that there's been some hog wild credit risk taking place in. Certainly there's been an uptick in emanate as polluted to earlier on your show. That's normal at this point in the cycle, certainly plenty of things to watch, but we think that overall the risk character in the market is pretty typical of what it is at this stage in the cycle, you pointed out the market is growing the so-called bonanza and issuance. We start to back out refinancings which is just a recycling of existing paper or refinance refinancing. Basically, the net number is much lower. The market's grown by about ten percent looking back over the past year and that's following what had been a Darth of of issuance for the couple years before that. So the market catching up, there has been a good amount of issuance year, but that's really just a reflection of the emanate machine. And that's on the back of what's been a pretty sound US economy. Sarah enough sounded US economy for now. The last time we saw boom, and that was funded by the leverage finance. Marco reminds me frankly of two thousand six, two thousand seven. It wasn't so pretty after. That some people are concerned that a lot of companies are raising money in the loan market and not raising money in the bond market. And therefore, there is no real advantage to being. I leaned basically having get sort of first recovery's in bankruptcy and liquidation. What do you make of all of that though? I wouldn't suggest any causality between the fact that there was a lot of issuance in the Bank on market and the great recession that ultimately followed Dodd. They did follow in time order, but one had little to do with the other in the sort of broader context of bonds versus loans. I think you know the attractiveness of loans today is certainly one that can be made an absolute sense. But really, it's all about relativity. If you're the investor, you have multiple sort of pieces to the puzzle you're trying to balance in portfolio. You look over on the equity side of your portfolio and you have stocked creating at all time ever highs. Think stocks have lost and pretty sure something like half their value twice in the last fifteen years that does happen in a recession. Over in bonds, you have the headwind of rising interest rates and with the fed on the move there. Relatively few places to position in fixed income land where you actually get a benefit from a fed, raising interest rates. And this is definitely one of those neighborhoods. So folks who were coming in to the class, I think, are doing it from the standpoint of pretty good reasons. They're searching for yield yield is hard to find today, but they're also searching for the absence of duration. Certainly their risks in our market, credit risk, liquidity risk, but it's not bond risk. And so investors are trying to balance those things. And I think for good reason Christopher, have you witnessed money managers pushing back on deals that are too aggressively priced. Abu, I can tell you, I work here at an asset manager that is indeed doing that. So there's been plenty of issuance as you started out the segment talking about, but there's also been plenty of deals to turn down. Our turn down rate here at Eaton Vance has averaged about seventy percent year today. So I would characterize those largely coming on the back of smaller deals and also deals at have weaker structures. So I'd say the overall sort of temperature. The market is good economy generally good about average credit risk profile, but with weaker documentation, weaker structures. And that's where we're really digging in and drawing the line. So what are some recent popular deals that you've drawn a line on, for example, was the Thompson Reuters deal one that you were buying into or staying away from? Well, that's definitely one of the big ones today. We're active in the name at the moment, so I can't speak in great detail about it, but I will tell you that that is. The deal that would absolutely hit on those topics that I just mentioned. Good company somewhat week structure. And if we are participating, it'll definitely be on the more conservatively positioned in our portfolio. Definitely some things to watch their because of those structural issues probably going to play out just fine. But we think there's likely an opportunity to buy cheaper sometime down the road. Thanks very much for being with us Christopher Remington director of income product portfolio strategy. Also institutional portfolio manager for floating rate loans at Eaton Vance. The topic is Brexit earlier today, you k- Prime Minister Theresa may said that the European Union must treat the United Kingdom with respect in Brexit negotiations in a statement in which she read at Downing Street. She said that e you leaders to reject her plan with no alternative. At this late stage of negotiations was not acceptable. What's find out if it really is unacceptable, Ian wish art is our European government reporter for Bloomberg news, joining us from Brussels. All right. Ian isn't really unacceptable. I thought everything in these negotiations seemingly is acceptable except in agreement. Exactly. It's he's a acceptable unacceptable depending on your perspective. The EU has made its position clear in pretty much stuck to its position for year. The UK says it doesn't like it in the year on is still saying it doesn't like it. Where'd you go from that while nobody really knows? Everybody still thinks that at some point in time is running out, but at some point they'll get a deal, but nobody quite knows how that will come up out because as I say, both sides completely talking in different ways from different positions and they seems ready to concede even one less to the other side. So who knows what's going to happen? I think all the smart money all is on an agreement being done eventually. But at the moment, both sides doubling down both sides. Digging in prime minister woke up to newspaper headlines saying she'd be humiliated by a you leaders at the summit in insults bug in Australia, overnight. So where do we go from here? I think he's going to get very messy. Indeed in, I've got to say it hasn't exactly been smooth sailing before this, right? I mean, it's been a mess all along. And this seems to be a sort of esscalation of that. I'm just wondering, does this increase the chances of a hard Brexit? And if so, to what degree in right now, the pound is plunging versus the dollar by the most since two thousand seventeen. Yeah. I mean, this is the the scariest if you like this carry this point. We've had so far in the Brexit negotiations because it's less than two months really before the deadline, the real hot as where they need to get the deal and do size as far apart as ever you off diplomats behind the thing. Then they all still say on both sides that getting a Dale is more likely than the null. So I think we have to assume that that is the case behind the stains round the negotiating table. There is movement discussions all being had, but politically, it's very difficult to say where where the compromises made, the speech that threes may made and hour or so ago meant that she really dug in. She really said this proposal that the EU has put forward with the break up of the United Kingdom, and she can never let that happen. Now, the USA dot, the only proposal whip Apache alpha, the wedge you go from here. I mean, it's it's it's not easy to see where any optimism comes from. So it's also very obvious that a hard Brexit, but no deal that are really messy DeVos is he's also putty possible, Ian wishing. Is there any conversation about the negotiating style and tactics? Me number one, negotiating in public number two, drawing these seemingly firm arguments, but then not having any wiggle room to actually happen a goal. She Asian. And then to talk about Northern Ireland when Theresa May's government depends on the support of Northern Ireland members of parliament, correct? Exactly. Everywhere you look as this pimples and obstacles and dead end. It's quite clear that both sides they were the pasta eighteen months. Two years have made mistakes, loose them as mistakes would be made by the UK size. Most. Of the things that the UK said it would never would never accept they have accepted. So the you clearly has the behind the house hot throughout the entire process. Now coming right to the crunch as you say, it's all about now the Irish border. It's all about Northern Ireland. What the e u says it wants to do to protect its own integrity as they quoted in the single market, which means protecting the flow of goods and customs controls into seven, single market depend on getting something arrangement overnight. It what it says. It wants the UK into resume and saying, she can never accept. So he's a red line, but something has got to give in just twenty seconds here when you go to the pub or when you walk around and just the average person on the streets of London, how concerned are they about this? How much are they following the details. The note following the details, the tool rid. All right. They want to know what they wanna know is, is there going to be a deal or isn't that gonna be deal? Is Brexit gonna happen, or isn't Brexit happened? And even those of us who speak to the people who know calm, really safe show what the outcome will be. And that's the scary thing about the Brexit process of the moment in wish. Thank you so much for joining us in wisher does European government reporter for Bloomberg news. When the world keeps throwing curveballs businesses need to do the things that are crazy enough to work. I'm Elizabeth banks and I've teamed up at State Street global advisors to uncover the bold moves mid cap companies make to thrive and survive. Every business has a story to tell subscribe to our podcast and search crazy enough to work to watch our films State Street global advisors funds distributors, LLC. A big question in angst in markets these days. At what point will the rising benchmark rates in the United States dampen interest in riskier assets and here to answer the question is Tony Scherr director of research and co portfolio manager, it's made capital management with a two point, three billion dollars of assets under management. So I'm just wondering, Tony, we've been hearing about this that it wasn't at some point. People are going to go back into government debt and avoid the riskier assets that they've basically been forced into during financial repression. We're not seeing that yet. When will occur. It's a great question. It's been years as cheap money has been flowing around whether it's private equity money or whether it's just the as you say, riskier assets that have gotten away with not having a show real earnings or free cash flow. And that has gone on for quite a long time as yields go up. You'll have something to compete with that. Right. And so you know, we don't know when, but we do think that the economy's going to be far more resilient and the next several years than even the consensus right now with tell you, you listen to Jamie diamond talked about the five percent on the ten year, a couple years out from now, and if that's driven by economic growth you by that, we do, we do you think that there's going to be five percent treasury yields and a couple of inches historically, not not asking a lot actually, right? I mean, we are in a tenure look back where that looks like a really big number right now, but you go back into a longer term timeframe. It's really not asking a lot and so no, we don't think so word of four point. Something percent four point two, I think the last sprint on GDP right now with unemployment, lower lower than that. How long is that gonna persist without yields eventually starting to reflect some upside on the longer term treasury bond. Tony, I got to ask you about one group of stocks that has been leading the market higher, and that's technology wanna know about this idea of financial euphoria and. Why you believe where if you believe that holding technology and growth stocks could permanently damage investors longterm success a letter from sneak capital anyway. Great question. The short answer is yes, absolutely. All mania is and you flory's don't end well, you know, the internet changed our lives coming out of nineteen ninety nine until eighteen years later today it change your life, but when most of the capitalisation went towards those ideas, right, you know, you lost your shirt in the subsequent three years, whereas the capitalization was going on in value stocks and other forgotten about, you know, the all the Konami type stocks. You didn't just do relatively well. You didn't nominally well in the next couple years, right? You could. You could just absolutely beat them seed rather, let's say, and I'm up picking on one stock for any reason. But I mean, lead rather go with a McDonalds and Coca Cola, then you would Facebook or Amazon dot com. Abs- absolutely. Okay. The, you know, I we wrote a piece here recently about that mania and we went back to two thousand eleven just as a case in point when no one was really thinking about FANG stocks. That was a point in time where we were looking at another recession in that case, a double dip recession, and what you were thinking about then was g. l. d. right gold, the gold ETF had more money sucked into it than the Espy wives. The Broad-market ETF at seventy eight billion dollars. Okay. You fast forward to today the GED twenty nine billion in it and the Espy. Why has two hundred ninety billion in it? You should have been taking risk back then. But you were buying bonds and gold was up forty five percent that year. The market as SMP had an interior downdraft of nineteen and a half percent and people were scared, right? But you should have been taking risk then fast forward today. No one is thinking or care about that stuff. They're only thinking about the things. So you've got in our view, massive, massive, overcapitalization in in a very narrow set of stocks. And that's been exacerbated by the amount of money that's gone into passive, this agnostic money that owns this stuff that they don't know really what they own or how poorly exposed they are. So let's talk about your portfolio. How have you adjusted it most recently in terms of stocks bonds and within stocks? The types of socks? Greg question. So I mean for us what this offers, what this capital misallocation offers us is some cheap stocks that have been left for dead and really forgotten about income Paris into the over excitement and FANG. So we've been adding to our position in Walgreens, boots alliance, for instance. We've been adding to target Kroger. We've been adding to some of the cheaper stocks that no one cares about a newer name for us discovery communications, and if you aren't net flicks, okay, you get discounted in old media land almost across the board discoveries incredibly cheap. We think it offers. It just did a deal with Hulu. They did a now off their content on the Hulu website or the who that's rice served. That's right. And that's exactly what they said they were going to do when they did the deal with scripts networks when they when they combined right, they're going to bring the discovery channels. Excuse me to to the same over the top platforms as script network says, had so real quick. What about bonds versus stocks? Well, I mean the yield we think are going to be rising here. See, don't like bonds. No, we don't like, okay, you don't like any bonds and how long have you not like Bunce? Well, approximately a decade. We're an equity. We're an equity manager, but no, we do think that we're going to be in a well. We think also we haven't talked about inflate. And we think inflation but also economic growth is going to drive rates higher. So you don't want to be owning bonds high-quality oriented equities, we think are going to be a place that you can win, not just relatively but nominally as well. Well, done. Thanks very much for coming in and sharing your thoughts with us. Tony share is director of research co, portfolio manager for speed, capital management, helping to manage more than two point. Two billion dollars. They're based in Seattle. It's talking about adding to positions in Walgreens, boots, alliance, target Kroger, and discovery networks. David, Nielsen is a serial airline entrepreneur, founder of JetBlue Airways. Also founder of Morris Airways, also founder of west Jet Airways. Also, he is going to have a new airline, a low cost airline and here to tell us all about it is George Fergusson. Bloomberg intelligence is own expert when it comes to all things, aerospace and defense. This is an interesting story George that David Neil man is going to be taking those eighty to twenty jets that were developed by bombarded by formerly known as the c series. He wants to start a new airline called moxie. Does the world need moxie? Well, so it extensively flying US routes. And I, I can't always speak for the entire world, although I try sometimes, but I think the. This doesn't necessarily need another airline. We have a lot of capacity. Fares are under pressure. Margins are falling for airlines. He's gonna try to wedge moxy in here. I think it's going to be difficult to make a lot of money with moxy. All right, but this is the founder of jet blue. So he has some experience in jet blue has done pretty well. Right? I mean, they've done gotten a lot of market share and they have a model that is being emulated by others. I'm just wondering. I mean, I personally would kind of enjoy it if somebody offered even lower fares out there with Ronald. Yeah, you know, I think everybody wants lower fares. I think that's a, that's a good thing. So again, but the more you cut fares more avails. 'cause fares, the more difficult it is to make a profit in this business. Hold on a second because actually prices have been going up steadily. I don't know if you've noticed it him. I don't know if you've noticed it, but it's been going up pretty dramatically. And now you have to pay for your overhead luggage, and you have to pay for the oxygen that. You breathe. So I mean, they have succeeded increasing prices, but believe it or not airlines are still less profitable this year than they were twenty sixteen. And the reason is fuel. Prices are rising like thirty percent and fares are rising to three or four percent so there. So they don't have the pricing power to compensate for that rising cost. He didn't go into a little bit of the thinking behind using that a to twenty jet that see series jet. I mean, it only holds about one hundred and fifty travelers and most of the low cost carriers. As I understand that going with something like the Airbus A three, twenty one. You got it. And that's why is very interesting about this too. Right? Is that so David Newman has worked for with with Airbus and I think there's a little bit of some of the old Airbus getting the band back together and and they really need to build some demand for this eight to twenty. And I think they're hoping that Neil McCann build a fleet of these because we think that they give them a deal on the sixty aircraft, you think, Mike, my guess is they did. I think that's the big difference sort of moving this airplane from bombarded Airbus's. You not have deeper pockets. I think as you launch an airplane, you have to be ready to take a little bit of pain, less profitability, a bunch of discounting, and and that's what this does. He wants to fly from tertiary airports in America or maybe secondary tertiary. So you could argue that you need that smaller size. 'cause he flying from places like Trenton, you know, or Windsor locks, Connecticut, and places like that. We are not going to be able to fill one hundred and fifty or one hundred seventy feet airplanes, but the rest of the low cost world is going to much bigger airplanes as they try to defray the cost of higher pilot salaries in the front and those higher fuel expenses. Lisa Abramowicz just once more legroom and wants to not be charged for the oxygen that she uses on the plane. Yeah. Also. I mean, there are list of things that I would like I would like to free snacks to come back because I know that that's not acceptable. I also the whole idea of support pets that are like huge peacocks that take up big time. Got rid of that. They got rid of the peacock. Not not a big fan of that. And yeah, no, I think that there are some issues. There are some issues that need to be addressed. I think Lisa wants wants to get those wings. You know that they used to give out when you traveled on their by Chilton. Those wings might want a pair of the, I think they still have them. All right. George, I want to talk to you about some news that was made this week with Emerson Eddie. Hod these two. Pretend these airline rival eastern. Yeah, exactly. And there is some talk that perhaps they're going to be combining perhaps not they denied it, but what's the logic care? Why would it be beneficial for them to join forces? I mean, there's a lot of capacities to flies between Europe and Asia, right? It's a, it's a big trade route. There's a lot of people that fly those routes work in in Europe or working to connect even further into the US and so so because of all this sort of demand for flying airlines have ended even more supply. And so you have you have a market. The big European carriers compete for the big Asian carriers compete for and the Middle Eastern carriers compete for and and fares are just horrible on these routes. And so you know, at the hot hasn't had the best go of it, they're they're smaller than emerets. They went after charge. By horrible. You mean they're low. Yes. Okay. Because. Aspect of somebody, okay. Carry on George. Just can't look. Remember shareholders do deserve a decent return. All right. And some of these, these are approaching levels aren't a decent return for jail this week. A debate that later on, I guess if you want, but so at the hunt hasn't had a great goal of it. Amherst has been much more successful. Look. They're kind of brothers, right? They're both in in the UAE there in towns that are a hundred kilometers. One hundred fifty kilometers apart. And I think that probably the government, the UAE's probably pulling both of them to get together because they album Dobbins are probably tired of losing money on at the Hahed and they see Emerson's being more successful. And so I think the reason why this could get done in the end is that that federal government will push a lot of parties at, don't want to, you know, maybe be together together to re rationalize this this carrier, and that would lower some of the capacity between Europe and southeast Asia and help fares in that part of the world. George, thank you so much for joining us. Please do lower the prices, get some more legroom and possibly even over her overhead space that you don't have to pay for. Thank you requests joints. Thanks for listening to the Bloomberg PNL podcast. You can subscribe and listen to interviews at apple podcasts soundcloud or whatever podcast platform you prefer. I'm Pimm FOX. I'm on Twitter at Pimm FOX. I'm on Twitter at Lisa Abramowicz one before the podcast. You can always catch us worldwide on Bloomberg radio. 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AT#682 - Virunga National Park  in the Democratic Republic of the Congo

The Amateur Traveler Podcast

52:48 min | 1 year ago

AT#682 - Virunga National Park in the Democratic Republic of the Congo

"The bag on a roll and read. It's real good passport. Temperature traveler episode six hundred eighty two today the amateur traveler talks about chimpanzees and gorillas and a volcano Keno with a lake of burning lava as we go to Veronica National Park in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Welcome to the amateur traveler. I'm your host Chris Christensen. Let's talk about Baringo. I'd like to welcome to the show. Neil from Ireland. WHO's come to talk to us not about Ireland but about Virunga National Park in the Democratic Republic of Congo meal meal? Welcome to the show thanks. It's great to be here now. We're talking to an Irishman about an African country. What is your connection with Virunga National Park Mark with DRC? I came across Franca. Maybe like a lot of people scrolling through next lakes and came across to Verona documentary was Oscar nominated donated a couple years back Across and when I watch this and I saw the conservation work being done there. I kind of felt a nose and the theon says well ever since we've been kind of keeping tabs on the park keeping tabs on to charity in the work. They're doing kind of daydreaming about coming here someday. Someday and fortunately a couple of months ago we got to choose and spent eight days in the park. And if we I wanted to put it on a map we're in the DC. So were in the western half of the southern part of Africa and where we within the Democratic Republic of Congo Virago. National Park is Roy's on the eastern edge of the DRC. And if you were to put on a map you're pretty much in in debt. Exact heart of Africa. So there's a very large cece Ghouma which is about a million people and the park ruins north from there along the border with Rwanda and Uganda excellent. And why should someone go to for National Park. Okay so I just Kinda tree. Main reasons people generally go to vulgar. I I swear I is the picture postcard. It's near Dongo Volcano. So for those of you don't know it's one of the only active laugh lakes Exon art so it's very very unique thing. I think there's only seven in the whole globe so that's a really big attraction the second power to to this is melting guerrillas. So again there's only three places on earth you can see mountain. Gross National Park is one of those and then finally when I'd say as Virunga is one of the oldest and degrades national parks on earth and wounded world's gray conservation projects and you can visit it with almost no other tourists so it's really a chance to see a great African National Park pretty much share says and when you say there are only a couple of other places you I can see mountain gorillas. You happen to be a stone's throw from them when you're in a national park absolutely so not grits. Basically the only live in the mountains and those mountains straddle the Rwandan Ugandan and DRC barter so within an hour urine in basically it's the same guerrillas and they actually do pass back and forth across the border and thrown guys just worn out those treat locations but there's some differences in in terms of price ace and the size of the group. You'd be with so can talk a bit about this when we talk about grits Deidra okay but really that areas why. I wanted to make sure that people understood is where we're win. We're all the way over there to the east. That means we're really just across the border from Uganda. What kind of are you going to recommend for US earth too? So I know gingerly generally on your podcast for kind of a week. Itinerary and Veronica some flexibility when we're going as far as Africa absolutely and I guess a lot of guests if they go to Africa. They're likely to maybe tag. This onto a maybe a wider trip or wider safari. Sorry so Veronica is actually very flexible so anything between kind of two days to eight days. You're going to see quite a lot. And there's kind the four main sites within the park and depending on your interests and preferences you can mix and match them so if you really only want to see the volcano you can be in forty not eight hours if you want to do everything about eight days and what we did was we. We spent quite a lot of time. There we dare nineteen days so we did everything quite a bit of detail and we can talk data entry but you can abs- dookie slice and dice it to fit your time-scale excellent and where should we start anyone. Visiting Virunga is going to be coming through the lower city of Goma. Now Goma is kind of an interesting place For want of a better. That's word so it's it's a city of a million people would huge number of those being UN peacekeepers and NGOs. It's always been in the power of the word. That's a little bit chaotic. And I found when I was looking at open. Your your listeners. Might find interesting is if you go on Google alert. There's two the twin cities. Most people will come in from Rwanda your fly into Kigali which is only about two to three hour drive into the border crossing and there's a town Cassini and Rwanda which is more twin the goal Matt Iran Roy's teacher. There's no real clear bar between the except if you look look on Google alert you can. Even if there was no barter on the map you could absolutely tell the difference between Rwandan D. R. C. On one side of the dimap map. There's these beautiful houses. Lovely Straight Roads Gardens Greenery and on the other side during his chaos absent whose that notre chaos and to be clear. You're you're side absolutely but chaos in isis going. So is an unusual place. I think the feeding on got there. It was kind of POMPEII in waiting. So the first thing that would really strike you when you get into Goma is developing near Dongo frames your the entire view so you look out over the city and in the very near distance is an Uruguayan. Go at eight. Tenths give out a a lot of clouds of smoke pretty much all day round and that's not a fake sewing. Volcano is very much active and erupted in two thousand and two was the most recent and and Flow True City caused quite go to visit damage. You'll still see when you drive through to see see places where say there was a two story house house and now the entrance is on the first floor because the whole ground floor is now basically solidified lava. It's an unusual usual spot. It's not one that I suspect. Most visitors spend any great toy man so like false wego barter and we a mess our guide who took US pretty much true Goma without stopping so we drove through the city. It's perfectly safe during the day but you kind of I think the most interesting power to the city is just to see I think for anyone who's experience either hasn't been in. Africa are as experience maybe more to safari lodges and that client side. It is a good introduction to maybe some of the more real day to day experiences underground it would awake in your senses for better or worse. But it's very interesting place to pass through and you mentioned meeting your guide. How did you find a guide for this trip? Spoiled it being quite a complicated power to the world. This was probably one of the easiest trips. I've ever taken so to go to the National Park because of the security region the organize everything centrally. So your point of contact would always be the national park and they have a specific tourist department that looks after all logistics. Ice was wanted under things that concern me day. One was a land border that I have to cross in Africa and does not always a reassuring thing to be doing so actually when I was underground founded wonderful laws when you cross the border into the DRC. There's actually a very very modern building thing that was actually funded by Howard. Both I think is one of he wanted years. He does a lot of charitable work so he actually Biz modern. Warren Buffett. Aso's Sorry Actually Warren Both its broader or other. Okay yes so. I think he's actually a partner in the business and he's also equally successful at he's actually hugely involved in Goma and national packets of and as has done amazing work. And actually when you go around here you'll see lots of signs bearing these names where he's foundation has done. Great work to actually Barda. Crossing itself is fantastic. It's like a modern kind of airport tight building and wanted conditions. Wins all of this very fancy building being used was that for the National Park. Were actually given an office inside in the Border Patrol area. So when you go in you don't meet Garrett's you don't meet people checking your passport. You actually meet your tourist. God who will take her passport. Kgo Eight eight-point scenes and organize everything for you while you sit comfortably in their tourist office so for anyone who's nervous about crossing borders navigating like that this is absolutely nucle- The easiest thing in the world it's not something to be concerned about. Just one correction. I looked up in. Howard Buffett is Warren Buffett's son son Rather than okay perfect. So most people are GonNa Cross true the land border and you're going to meet the representatives of the National Park there and they can take you directly into their vehicles which will transfer you to the park so don't worry about any transportation. I needed logistics so once. That's still you leave Goma and beyond. There's no particular reason to spend much time there. There are some tourists operators that do guided tours tours the city from people who donate and people he met during the POWERPC not a whole lot to see. Unless you're very much into getting on the ground in these replaces that's something you can comfortably skip over so when you need to pack you are very. I almost occasion. You have about a kind of fortify administer S. ten hour drive you go to near Dongo Volcano and kind of the base camp for data and near Congo's really deep. I suppose the poster child for Patrick. It's by far the most popular tourist attraction so I would say nearly every guest goes under and Alaka guests will go only to the volcano. So a lot of people who've done grid as in either. Uganda Rwanda would maybe very briefly for forty eight hours travel across the border to see very a unique feature. I post and I don't have a blog myself but I do Put reviews on trip advisor and I found. This was actually a very popular and I got a lot of questions. I think mainly because there's not a lot of information online about us. The Trek of volcano entails and a lot of people are very nervous myself included. That they won't make it to the top. I suppose just a bit of background to hike is like what you see. The hike started about two thousand meters. And you go up fifteen hundred meters in five stages over about five or six hours. So it's a relatively difficult claim in that it's YouGov Google off quite a lot of Asian and forcing isn't the based. There's not the parents where you have and a small slippery stones so scree the kind of things you take two steps forward and you slide one step back. That's absolutely except the only unique thing about discreet is that it's actually level. So so from the two tablets and the two options there's actually different stages on decides to mountain so some places where the laver kinda settled more uniformly. It's almost like a footpath. It's a it's a wonderful surface and indoor pirates. Where at guides were saying the lab can cool the different different rates and because of the friction? You got an awful lot of very small screen like stones and again as you said you have to focus very carefully on your footing and because actually the rock is lower. It is actually very sharp. You'd have to be very very careful. It was it was a lot of people asking. Some people were saying we've done Everest. BASECAMP will be able to do is absolutely. You don't need anywhere near that level of fitness I. I have done nothing more strenuous than walking for about ten years and I was comfortable enough. Doing it asked think anyone with Fitness would be fine to rea- challenge in what I would warn people. What about is I think you would need to have kind of be comfortable at? Your footing is good. And that you kind of sturdy footing in your comfortable I suppose no five six hours I'll pay and on on even ground in patches in terms of the actual hike. It says you start off at the rainforest level and so that's all very easy bad factors. It's quite war so if you've dress for the mountain top it can be a little bit uncomfortable. So one of the first things. Everyone has has told his dress in layers. That's absolutely as you move up. You start to hit the lavender fields and again. That is a mixed bag. There are some lovely stretches footpaths. There are some areas where you're going to have to find your footing in and pay huge attention to the bit that most people get nervous bows and in reality isn't so bad is the very last stage so the fifth stage you get to a host in you got a little rest in a break and then you have almost not far off kind of vertical last last couple of hundred meters. Now you will spend a little bit of Modesto which kind of hands and knees and a bit of scrambling but it. It goes very quickly. It doesn't doesn't mountaineering skit or anything like this and de Porter's very good so again every group that goes up as porters and guides and they are very hands on and the guys do this in their sleep so those guys carrying six different bags and wearing runners and they were holding up and carry me up mountain as if I was noting. So it's very doable. Okay and some people be concerned about altitude again. This is much. Lower Than Kilimanjaro Kilimanjaro. So what is the likelihood of actually suffering from attitude is is very very no. I wouldn't worry about this when I'm seeing that the lava lake around three thousand two hundred fifty meters or ten thousand feet. So it's not great in terms of breath ability but you can get higher than that. I'm just going over the rocky mountains on a road so you're not nearly as you would be to or someplace like that. Yeah exactly and while you might see this a little bit. It's not a very strenuous. It is a and open one day and the next morning type the claim. So there's no great worries worries about acclimatization or anything like this is not a disappear as to sickness kind. I wouldn't think so did hiking just last week at nine thousand feet and I know Oh that the air is thinner. You'RE GONNA have to go slower but it's not like you worry about. Are you gonNA make it from altitude sickness or something so I suppose that's the process of getting up up there. I suppose the more interesting is why would you do. And that is the wonderful basis so at the top of volcano. There's a sense of hosts. Hey Free so you can stay up there overnight and you are Roy on the lip of an active volcano and. I don't know that invest answered. The boycott movies might tell you and videos and movies always seem to have laughed at aches. Kinda has the easy in reality. There's not lots of them going around so I think there's about seven on the entire planet one or two of them are in Antarctica analyzing in order to or unbalanced too. So if you want to visit them you're you're fairly limited options and allows them very difficult and expensive to get to our. Maybe you're not guaranteed guaranteed so he thinks if you go to the top of near Dongo you are almost certain I would say ninety nine point nine percent in certain to see a proper proper active with all the bells and whistles that you kind of imagine from two movies and especially as night falls and and it gets dark looking into the volcano of his really. I suppose it's something very primeval when you see that cracking As it makes is really like the art kinda splitting apart. It's something incredibly unique to see and for anyone out there who finds that claimed of appeasing. It's really worked taken if it makes all the pain of of scrambling where workers were. And if you're interested in some of those other spots that Neil is talking about we've done episodes suits on two of them one on Vanuatu and one on Ethopia including the Danika depression. Which is where you'll find that the lava elsewhere in Africa Cup I suppose in terms of the comfort on top? So you're going to spend a lot of time looking at the volcano and just staring into the abyss but it's actually quite a comfortable setup on top of the volcano. So Porter's Cook Dinner. So you got a proper warm dinner provided to the frame hosts or not I would say overly uncomfortable are very serviceable. Keep the rain out. Sticky cold out. Doors at mattress provides sleeping bags all that kind of stuff. So you're not hauling calling all this year across continents floating it's all provided on the ground. All things considered while you're not going to have the best night's sleep you get eh perfectly fine. It's it's not really slumming as in the so people when they think when I lost my friends heard he's going to DRC. I think division of me me in a tent by the side of a road. It's a lot better than that's not more comfortable than this. In the air quality would be the one thing that I would be wondering about. Because obviously you're in a cloud of noxious gases much of the time. Yeah so We didn't find it ourselves so we've been to Denver depression before they knows it caused a bit of butter and it was quite pungent at times both here. Actually because you're quite ah long way up so you have very good view of the attic but it's clean because you're elevated on the crater rim is quite dispersed so you actually don't sell for for too much from us and actually we didn't have any issues all okay and the dental depression is exactly what I was thinking about because I have a friend who went there and their tour guide did not bring gas masks us and noticed that one of the other tour guides and thought it seemed like a really good idea so but that does make sense. What you're saying you're you're further up and you get crosswinds and things like that? Okay absolutely and I suppose the one thing I would mention is if someone is going to Verona And the Ngong volcano is the heightened the real target of your trip. I would suggest that you try. Avoid rainy seasons because every afternoon the Congo's I wanted the biggest rainforest on hurt right and that means a lot of rain in the afternoons. And if you get heavy cloud cover which we did actually Italian as we were going up. It limits the amount of time you get to spend watching volcano now again. I've never heard of anyone going up. Not Seeing but there's a big difference between getting Turkey men's visibility and on limited time so I think divall candle is your be all end. All I think definitely avoid rainy seasons seasons which are marched amid me is the the big rainy season. Okay and then there's a smaller one between September and November. Okay let's take take a break here and here from a sponsor this episode of Amateur Traveler is sponsored by skylight frame. It's kind of like frame has sponsor before but this time I have lied my the hands on one. I have a skylight frame. And they're really cool so I could see why this would make a good Christmas gift and the person in my life who this makes sense for is my parents. My parents are in their nineties. 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It's a bit of a trek depending on where you're going and this getting more and more expensive or the two things that I know about Uganda Rwanda and I don't really know how that compares with the first of the the biggest indicator indicator of the difference is the price so in terms of kind of cost if you want to go to guerrillas and you have a limited budget villages. DRC is definitely your best option so you can go to see guerrillas indoor rainy season into DRC for two hundred dollars two hundred dollars permit firm it for one hour so it it doesn't sound cheap but when you compares to the alternative so in dry-season Dr Seeds for hundred dollars. Once as you get to. Uganda I think you're talking five hundred dollars all year round. I think Rwanda's over a thousand dollars depending on when you ask them. I think they'd wind up up to fifteen hundred dollars for a while and I think tourist numbers Fed away. So that's that is in flux but it's significantly more expensive to the RC. So I think if you're on in a more backpacker budgets are if you're kind of doing a bigger trip task and you want to kind of manage to cost that this piece a trip to the DRC indurain season season for guerrillas is actually quite a good option. Because I know I've worn people off going to see developing on rainy season because out in the UK. No you're exposed your visibility season grace grid is quite different. Because you get very very yolks and personal because you're in the rainforest and you're Kinda undercover frank. She had also to walk and because a lot of the rain tends to fall afternoon so that it's very cyclical you have nice. Warm Mornings and Info to tree fell on words you get really really heavy rainstorms. Yeah you would actually have gone to Desgris seen them if it rains is not a huge imposition and you can enjoy them and actually if you're a photographer order keeping your camera troy which can be a challenge. You get great photos because obviously with the Loyd refracting under the leaves and the raindrops on the adults themselves you get some really spectacular pictures. Here's will end for those who haven't done it. Describe how it take much effort. It takes to get to see the particular group that you're seeing being and how close you're getting and what that was like in terms of I just kind of two main sectors grid sector. Actually Grid isn't volcano sectors and in both of those when you saw no there's a lot of different families that have been domesticated so it's interesting tin domesticated families the Gross Domestic Investigative habituated abby as it is probably more accurate description of animals. People being around absolutely. So you're going to today. There's actually a kind of a almost like school board. The show is the family names. Number of adults cades babies peace and depending on the group's destroys the group that are going trekking out to sea guerrillas and fitness of the individual groups Dick and actually tate or two the people possess wounded beauties of `continuing groups are going to because you you've only got so many guerrillas and they're not going to send everybody to the same group craigslist excellent. There's very small group so they wouldn't send any Morton I think it's eight people and it's something like eight people per day per family group something in that Rangers which you're talking about. That's that's right so each family only gets worn visit day to beauty of the DRC radio as because the tourist numbers are so much smaller. Let's say we did a two visits to criticize on consecutive days. We were the only two people in the group both days and again. That's why you have checks bit. He kind of more picking families on these suitable to you and trikes may be shocked if if you're not comfortable longer. Hikes does flexibility because there's tourists and in guides are able to new personalize. It a little bit more you so the accessibility and the addicts eighty-two Families visited involves about an hour hour hike. Each time to describe it as a hike is probably over setting is wanted. Today's particularly it was pretty much a flat wall for two whole hour at true basically farms and fees open to the edge of the park and then we. It is a very very gentlemen clawing for maybe ten fifteen minutes from the bar to the forest orest into the family so again for people who are concerned about maybe longer hikes or more difficult hikes are undergrowth two. DRC and the options in for longer own-goal are a little bit more accessible. I think from what I've heard than some of the options. Predicting Uganda where I think the undergrowth is a bit more dense and tougher underfoot and in. Because there's business tourists. I think you have you a little bit more scope for more helping hands and again there's more guys per person so you can. If you need help people are there to help you out. Okay interesting and then in terms of how close you get again. I think when we were in debriefing Keep maybe kind of six or seven meters away now in reality when you're underground to grill do not observe those very often the rules for for you not for the girls absolutely so why you're very good and you have your day always put on the surgeons mask so again to protect British because they're so similar to us. Yeah yeah so I think the share of something ninety percent plus in the same genetic code humans ops catcher diseases so they just get anywhere searching Max only when you're on site so only when you're within a couple of meters day are very comfortable with people around you actually you'll get very very close so ours anymore. Bringing big lenses or do you have have to bring your big safari camera absolutely not I brought mine. The first day and actually couldn't get a picture of the grid hammer a little Physically could not get them into the Josh. So that that's how close you get so and it's actually it's wonderful tainted maybe for those people who can afford us are who have to tell you. I would highly recommend doing two visits on consecutive days. Because it's one of the few times a you've ever get to see them and the families are quite different so we would have visited homeboy family of guerrillas. In the first day which was kind of ten guerrillas der Beek thing was. They had a brand new newborn child so that was pretty spectacular and I suppose as stories go to guarantee to tell you they spotted. This told us it was the first time that anyone anyone had ever seen it. So does a brand new weren't even aware of and Expos being cynical carson. I kind of assumed they say everyone. Both On owes does tracking to the twitter feed of the power later on and it turns out that was actually true. So I'm not sure they're going to name it. After me Bush. We came to be the first the first most people to see the new bar and so it was very very exciting and you do have an otter spelling of Neil. So it's going to be complicated if they do so absolute loot lots of grill is named after say Rangers who fallen in protecting the park and stuff like that. I didn't quite feel that I might achievements achievements measured today that seems more appropriate absolutely and it was the the reasons. Co Two groups in some of the other groups would have would have newborns burns. David have lots of blondes into two three four five year old range. I think really see guerrillas. Day are absent. He works asking God Loyd to bring you to a family with kids in that range because they're incredibly active and complete answers and they are open down trees throwing each other off coming are investigating human beings and see what. What is the story within this noise to see them? They're like little children and definitely worth doing. I suppose the next big take a lot of people do is the national power headquarters so Virunga National Park headquarters what it sounds like an administrative area and it technically is so. That's where all the pack staff the Rangers and all the the monitoring teams are based. There's also an awful lot of activities. There for tourists tourist the first one and done a lot of people who watch maybe Deroga- documentary familiar with is the world's only mountain gridlock. Orphanages there so anyone who's ever seen Gribben zoo that is not going to be a mountain gorilla. They do not really take to captivity. They've never manager savall even this. So in zoos around the words that just are not mountain. Gorillas to orphanage here is for a no broker less whose parents were kids. Give in instance in the past. Maybe fifteen twenty years ago and they've been kicked here and brought up by a very small group ranger interesting look after the day in day out and defeated very prominently. The documentary anders. Golly Andre who looks after group as almost like in his own kids and I think if if anyone is listening to this has seen the documentary did it probably be wondering whether you get to meet him and you know all the person didn't he was actually on a holiday. It's back home to the he's re he's second family but for most visitors. You actually get to meet him. And he's a little mini celebrity in the world. And I suppose the auditing people might have come across and might have been aware to grow off. Message is if you remember to send fee picture from from last year. That win foyer of a guy with a gritty kind of doing a pose behind him That's actually from the orphanage. That's what that's what we mace that it was showing us around the finish and again it was now posed. It was absolutely natural messing around. Didn't quite relies quite elvir. That will go but so you can see the gorillas and you can see two guys who were power to that. Now we didn't mention how big the Perkins hundred miles long or something. Something on that order. I think it's about eight thousand square kilometers altogether. It's pretty long narrow. I think about three hundred kilometers not yet kind of hugging the border with Ah Uganda and so how far are one. Stop to as you talked about the guerrillas and the volcano and the orphanage are those miles and miles. AL's away or right near each other the volcano. You're talking about an hour. Maybe fraum border volcano degrees if you go the volcano sector. Those are pretty much there as well. You don't have much traveling. You can go to the gritty sector volcanoes which is about maybe forty five minutes on further into the power. And in from Deir you're talking maybe twenty minutes to D- headquarters that's all fairly close. Then it's not too bad. Roads are again stuck in your house. You were talking about that. Is the more appropriate muted of measure. It's an interesting drove. You will get your back cash Kashagan back into place both. It's it's an interesting Dr. What's your headquarters in? The orphanage in all the other activities are all kind of fighting minute walk. So they're all been and headed to compound. I guess headquarters so the often it is the big attraction. There's also a possibility chimpanzee tracking so it's not awesome. That's very Developed there yet. They're Kinda stood in the process of habituating their families again because there are so few tourists. are actually opportunities opportunities. If you ask them they would bring you out chimpanzee tracking so there is an extra fee for that. But it's the in something that if you're interested in primates again you're kinda tightened this onto your African adventure. There is a chance to go and see chimpanzees angry this year. So after champions attracting a lot of people then we'll go to visit the widows workshop which is a business. It's run fight wife's of Rangers who've been kid in service so we might talk about it a little bit later. depowered is for all. It's wonderful tiger raise difficulties. There is on my list to talk about yes. uh-huh so for the Rangers being a ranger in the National Park is quite dangerous activity and many have been candidate for two years so in terms of the wife's does Rangers depowered runs this workshop where they produce luggage tags and toys and various kind of taught products and they send them to tourists and actually said abroad to shops in in Europe and America now in most national parks in Africa with the danger to rangers comes from poachers. Now I know. DC has had some other issues over the years which we're GONNA get including wars. Is that the same problem here. Though predominantly is an element of poaching particularly less so in terms of animals and more so in terms of eater Bush meat are in terms of accessing things like charcoal and accessing the resources within the the park okay. There's also an element fraud the historic con. Six particularly in Rwanda and Uganda have seeped across the border order. Now it's probably worth mentioning to stage though. Is that because the pack is so long and narrow and because the roads are terrible the distances on the map if you were to look at it as an American European are probably further than you might think so say issues that are arising in the central sector parker to northern sector to pack. Why not maybe death? Are we in pure kilometer. Terms is kind of almost a lifetime away in terms of actual interaction interaction between the people underground. Maybe he just to kind of wrap up on headquarters parents again. The combination is quite a jurist. So there's the only one option in terms of staying headquarters and that's quite expensive. So I suppose for Las Vegas I would say Nas avoid addition to your trip so I think if you're on a budget the volcano Can Be much cheaper and you can have a perfect wonderful holiday like that. Could if you wanted a little bit of luxury and relaxation action in terms of hot water and really really quality food things like this. It is a add onto your trip in terms of kind of giving you a little bit of a break from the hiking seeking to rest your feet and I suppose wanted wonderful things about the headquarters is because you're actually there. There's a huge community of the actual power workers around into the afternoon around a bar. You'll get lots than having derek into afternoon drinks. See you can guess Drako. Conversation with the guys who've been gene let the forefront to conservation African loads of tax around the area for twenty years. And you can hear their life stories and the things they've come across and he actually that that was one of the highlights that are true. Absolutely amazing characters. We met one guy who had been living in eastern Africa for two years. Looked a bit like Kurt. Russell flies recently has been out digging. Tired it's on remote Haydn's healthy community and you just meet the most spectacular people who make you feel very insecure but the chief in your own life but it was really special. So that's the headquarters and again well-worked visiting but not an absolute businessess itchy. And I suppose the final Kinda Ford cited like people will do at the moment at which is kind of a natural onto the volcano particularly is is the island of Chitra. It's it's a unique taking. It's kind of separated and removed from the pack itself. So all the itinerary. So far you've spent the park that would end the conference rainforest disdain you head back towards goal Megan and out down to Lake Hebrew which is one of the great lakes aches and Central Africa and power just happens historically to a small uninhabited island on lake. It's actually remains of Pharma Pharma Volcano. So if you Google is look it's actually a very strange de Kinda crescent shaped island and that's because there was a volcano here at one stage h which has since got submerged and you're actually sitting on the lip of the island is mainly used as kind of a relaxation after near near Dongo Ongo so again after hiking up all day sleeping on the top of this you come down you use just wanted shower. You want Nice bathed you want the year Wifi. So that's kind into what the united mainly offers Durr's a chance go kayaking on the does kayaks. They're just a lot of authors birdlife. So it's one of those areas where you can just kind of chill and I think maybe relaxed Ted your folks back Home Dash you've made a true to DRC in your standard is well. Let's talk about that a little bit actually before. We say that we should also mention that the whole park that you're talking about and you haven't got into everything for instance all the different animals that you can see in the park or even just the range of geography you talked about jungles. You talked about Volcanos there snowcapped. Oh Kep eeks. There's a lake. There's a lot of variety in that hundred miles or so we're talking about and it is a UNESCO World Heritage Site but as you said Eh. You told people you were going to go. They probably told you you're going to die absolutely to the folks under good. You're absolutely right. It's a UNESCO site. It's actually the second oldest national park in the entire world and it owes its creation to yellowstone sort of the influence there to the Americans obviously came open still and I think the first Ersan entire orange and when King Albert of Belgium went to visit the US in the early nineteen hundreds. They took him out there to see us and ensured off and that always stuck with him and debate in parodied over traveling and so a couple of years later after they came back. They Kinda win searching for her I suppose what was the equivalent in the Belgian sphere of influence where they could do something similar and they said on this rotor spectacular piece of land right on the Congolese Rwandan uganda-border and so it's the second oldest in the world and as you said it covers almost every type of Landscape landscape imaginable. So I was I've talked about now. Is What's available to current visitors booth at different stages and depending on the security. Here's the situation to park. It's actually is a loss of voter things to offer so so many listening to this in years totally would hopefully be able to actually do a proper traditional safari various park so the central sector is actually more like a savannah so you would have your traditional loins leopards elephants Buffalos hippopotamus possumus. That is dare and it is opened depending on the situation and I suppose that Indian the situation probably rounds me back to the point you made about people being slightly concerned so Friday one who is thinking going to I think it is accidentally Portnoy at Disneyland. Fortunately it are some fairly significant issues both historically and at present that you need to be aware aware of to the first in terms of if you were to Google the area is diabled epidemic is probably the first thing that's going to pop right and I I'm I'm not a doctor so I'm not going to give anyone any very specific advice on that but I suppose to just maybe give people since of how comfortable going and how much my fiancee fancy night. We're happy to to visit us. I suppose first of all it kind of goes back to distance again if you actually look at. The map doesn't look all that Farrukh. Main outbreak is is around. A place called Benny in reality dati's for most locals like being on the moon so when you're underground there's not a lot of people who will own cares. Almost I know one with old cars. Very few even have motorbikes allotted locals rely on these traditional wooden scooters Toronto bet awards on motorized voiced so people don't really travel beyond village so someone who is an operator's one hundred fifty kilometers away is is not like one hundred fifty kilometers in Europe or American absolute chance. You actually come into contact with anyone is quite remote. I suppose the second part of it was I suppose it bullet sports. It's a very high profile because it's very very serious. Illness and is very very high. Fatality rate is at the same Transmits is really by hands on contact. So it's a huge risk for families of people who are affected priests you're dealing with doctors. Nurses it's not really unlikely to affect the tourists. It's just not something that you're going to be getting involved in rated. It doesn't mean that we ought to look for places with a bullet outbreaks for your next week. Yeah absolutely so. It's something that you should APPs. Take very seriously and the do your research and and talk to the voters put again. It is is quite a long way from the power to open to tourists and it is torchwood in remission at the moment and so it seems to be that going down so actually thought also hopefully by the time lock people. Listen to this. It will actually have kind of petered out and gone away. Well and we have very good news just within the last week there was an announcement Samantha. There was a new series of drugs that seem to be effective in treating so one would hope that the mortality rate for this disease disease is going to drop because it sounds like they were having some progress with it again. Something you still take seriously. And that's one of the two issues that we've had in the one of many so then the other one that people will come across is security concerns so the parakeet says is indeed. DRC DRC country is a little bit more of a concept than a athlete folk shinning country in the traditional sense Nokia could a map. It's absolutely enormous. It's almost impossible to govern robbed capital city on the other side of the country to regions in the east and unfortunately fortunately for day most people want to be in very rich areas with nodes of minerals and gold and diamonds for this region. That has been a bit of a curse. I and it has transitioning brought conflict to the area so you have a lot of armed groups now particularly in the Nar to the park so where tourist tourist currency is. I think as a kind of rule the thome you can say the further north you go further away you go from the tourist areas debris skewered becomes butcher is absolutely a Nigga gacy of challenges in the area DASS can flare up no. The park has a the rangers who are completely weekly in charge of the travel and transportation within the park so you will have an Arab discourse at any time when you're traveling between occasions they also are linked linked in with the army and they are monitoring the situation so they have very very talented inexperienced people in the area who quite into shutdown tourism. If there is a concern having said all that as you've said about her a lot of people out there you might just not want to go to somewhere where this is a conversation in the first instance so for people who are interested in who are willing to take the risk is with us this is spectacular. And you get to see it again. With which reduced tourist numbers. There's but to be realistic are reasons for that. I just need to go and we should say just in terms of getting a sense for how big ah the country is for those who are coming from the states if you picture the size of Texas which is our largest state that is not Alaska Alaska largest state in the lower forty eight. We're talking about a country that is about more than three times larger than that. And so. That's why if there are problems in one part part of Congo of DRC specifically than it might still be safe to go to a different part and so we just need to do research and look into it as you do that. And it's GonNa be a changing situation. It is. They haven't had specifically something called a war in a few years had some conflicts Including some conflicts in Goma. That happened across the border as well so something to look at as you. If you're listening to the show and it's been a few years I I would definitely do even more research because it will change over time and honestly we don't know what directional change but this did one of the reasons I wanted to do. This particular episode is we are talking about a pretty spectacular spot and hopefully we're talking about his spectacular spot that will stabilize and get some good tourism revenue and support the economy there of the people of the DRC absolutely excellent anything else. We want to cover before we get a couple of our wrap up questions I know. I think that's mainly is I think just to mention to people. A lot of people might not travel all the way from the states just to do. DRC So it's worth mentioning kind of tags intuition whistle again. The airline to fly directly into Goma is Ethiopian Airlines. So if you're visiting Ethiopia it is actually an option to fly directly into Goma and and you can arrange with the power to collect you from their alternative. The awful lot of people do it with an actual more traditional safari so eater in Kenya. Nya would be quite accommodating place because you can slice from Nairobi to Kigali in Rwanda and travel. It's only a tree drive to the bar and you can be with Indepao within kind of four or five hours a touching down so that will be the traditional add ons for people who are doing maybe a two week or a bigger trip to Africa good too and we have another show on on the deer see and we have chosen. Uganda Rwanda Tanzania and Kenya. I don't know if we have one one I'm Barundi. which is the only other neighbor near there that you can answer after this question for me? You're standing in the prettiest spot in the park in the national park were standing. What are you looking at? I think it would. I have to be the creator of near Dongo now to maybe make expect more interesting answer do supposedly and I haven't tested all all noticed. I'd have to do a lot more traveling. But supposedly near Congo has the most spectacular view from any tight. Its seat on art. Which I can't say I am an absolute expert on that but it it's a pretty spectacular view suggests down from the hosts maybe five or six meters down from the crazies age? You you have Detroit which faces out back across away from the volcano out over the landscape over the park down on the city of Goma and Tiezzi? There's no doors so you quite spectacular view. Not for everyone. Maybe definitely one for Instagram at some stage well there was an answer I wasn't expecting and maybe we've already answered this one thing that makes you laugh and say only in Virga. National National Park is an interesting one adult maybe to mix it up. I suppose we're we're on Cheek Era Island we write both asked you to a Bo comes out and you that the island and the manager wanted to introduce us to the island and said we have this May of these authors in these birds at an at the end of it just kind of almost as a troll way comment meant as we have a single blue monkey and you don't know quite how to react to the idea this monkey and how he might have got there but it was one of those Daybreak four to the island and released pretty quickly than monkeys. Ethan out more than you might expect a very smaller than it's not going to work out very well. So they sent out people with tranquilizer guns to captured inhumanely. Bring them back to the park and I give them more space to Roman that worked for tree denominate monkeys. The Ford Monkey was not cooperative and has met his State of the year later beyond the Rhode Island. So I'm not sure. There's many to many kind of fence. E resorts arts around the world that have a fugitive monkey kind of scampering around the place. That was something that I I wasn't expecting. I must say I had a good laugh when he occasionally used journal to breakfast and Steed Our bananas. Excellent our guest again has been Neil and Neil thank you so much. We have a website if you say so. We won't send people to your your best post on this particular area of the world but thank you for coming on amateur traveler and sharing with us your love for Virunga National National Park in the DRC. Absolutely Chris thanks for having me any particular news here for the news of community. So we'RE GONNA adjust end this episode if you have any questions sent an email to hosted amateur traveler dot com or better yet. Leave a comment on this episode at Amateur Traveler Dot a common as always. Thanks so much for listening. See With the JAB is eh.

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149: The Press Conference | Rest Day 2 | Vuelta a Espaa 2019

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149: The Press Conference | Rest Day 2 | Vuelta a Espaa 2019

"You're listening to the cycling PODCAST AT THE WORD THAT I spy in association with Rafts the fastest clothing in the world tour the home of cycling with Cat Right and war with Rafael in two thousand nineteen partner. If Education I and Kenyan strong today on rest day number two we in the heart of the country still in custody lately aren't when we correct even though we've driven along and we're not far from Madrid no no. It's funny on Christ. Today I saw science for Vitoria Bilbao Bilbao only about one hundred fifty kilometers in one direction and I as I drove further Saif. Madrid's was only one hundred fifty kilometers away so we really are home in Madrid. There's a pretty miserable day it wasn't that weatherwise can remove as Mars Long Windy. It around I think that should be should be because it's very very exposed this policy game by high up with last couple of days with constantly above above around them plasma tomorrow's extraordinary there isn't a single classified climb butter goes below seven hundred meters no on it is cold as well which comes with that sort of height am Daniel describe the place that we are and how as I said we kind of weather center point of the better than one gram region is and where the state just East Tamar I don and wind just this to the east of that yeah. It's it's a shrine to want. It's a wine train. Isn't it. Shrieking kids kids running around him this evening when we race but yeah I mean. I think you'll you'll better place while your room definitely deserves a description. I'm in the junior suite on. I've got cousy in there. I know I've third one taking pity on I think so because I didn't put any of them but third one of the Vuelta hand huge room very beautifully decorated like almost the four posts but not quite on that is lovely on the Jacuzzi before dinner it was to haul on. I'm still have a Beatles sweating. Any what did you do today. Who did you see we saw run in a nice hotel in the power deal in lead on the had a press conference Verde Night Oman. I'd say we have the Civil Fox and then I'd I'd a nice chat with Bitcoin Lawrence with him for our TV tonight. How much you any palm shells bomb shells. It was quite interesting to invalid night. Oman because obviously it was a poignant moment because it was can tom it's probably been contaminants lost what it was his last press conference with star acid grun tool so when he's a very dignified chieter night. Omanis now we got about robbery and he's never any excuses and even today you know he he talks about how he not relive the expectations said he prepared very well and and he he does he does fi doesn't give up if you look at his record in Grungy many occasions where he's failed to live up to expectations but it doesn't abandon. We saw this year the stage that one was after I'd some tough days. It isn't the opt-out thing you know go downright and getting a break and get soft stage when I'm trying not vain today. He's sort of party message it was I think a lot is going on behind the scenes lost years and neither Ah side has been particularly happy with each other for long periods in last couple of years but there was none of that really I'm not really transpired today the thank us and and you know very fondly looking back and what they've achieved together. He's stoic his knee nine Roman. I mean if you're if you're women's flounder one end of the spectrum on the other on their teammates next year. Yeah it'd be interesting to see how that works out. Well just talking to who is the most on manager about ninety mine in what has gone right and wrong with him and you know the the irony of it being a a team that's sponsored by communications giant and it's he's. He's sort of figure head over the last few years night. Oman is probably let down by his communication within the team. I think that's what's really not not done him any favours at times in races and our races. I think those incident if you last week wasn't the when I was the first Monday. Sites have a lumber really he should've told the team wasn't feeling as well as good as they thought he was feeling. I nothing is typical of Kim. I'm because he's STOIC. He sort of keeps his counsel and sometimes that's to the detriment of of the team dynamic and you know we've had before I remember an interview with it. Giovanni Visconti the Italian rod a couple years ago It's about how how aloof and how impenetrable can Tana can seem in a team environment the movie Zuma who today and a four year contract extension for a drug ledge and there have been some rumors that he might he might leave the Moulana arriving. Tom The Milan Baba's artsy George Bennett and I spoke to him about tomorrow's coma two zero. What'd you make about What the announcement. What is it standard? Isn't it the day announcement especially with him in the lead. I am just put the bad I suppose any of those to keep him. Well not for for him on his heading to decide to stay there and commit yeah. It's a curious one because you know if he wins the Vuelta. The logical next step is to go and try to win the tour isn't it and even imagine that's what he would like to deal Tom Donilon but wants to do that as well and I don't know I mean George Bennett talked to approach. They've taken a lot of grandmothers where they've gone there with sort of two nominal leaders girls and who's got the best legs. I can't imagine them doing that with. The Milan think demand is in a different bracket really I don't know I don't know I mean I yeah we do contended for major tool was sort of France last year last time finished tomatoes. He's missed law racing and there's a bit of a question mark the last three he's finished second second. I this is one of the things I was talking to today about the Palmers on pretty quickly and especially in the moment. It seems to be moving on sort of a double speed new names. Keep appearing Syrian. We've seen the emergence of poor Gotcha. We've seen while we we we think we're going to see the poll on the sort of on on a grand scale as well so do Milan CA- yeah. I don't WanNa say he's GonNa yesterday's. A lawyer says my very quickly but this kind of thing could happen. I mean this is concerned. I mean it's probably wise decision. Maybe bit premature but we've seen many times before sky any else riders who okay fell a little bit crowded out because Ritchie Pool and they've gone swear hasn't is it really worked and you know when you have team where there's a lot of momentum whether doing things in a successful way it can be a goal to to to leave an environment like that so this is our press conference episode. Shall we go to who are first question Daniel low lying or Richardson Daniel says anything Carson Seattle from the PODCAST and listener for last couple of years. Here's thanks again for your great coverage of the Volta and all your all your other tourists dates. I particularly think a standout episode was a stage seven from the ged. Dahlia area on Daniel was flying solo. two part question for you for part is round team in US and the vote about the just curious what your thoughts are what their approach is been what their successes or what they're aiming for seems like most of the other teams have had a pretty pretty good showing for stage wins or getting jerseys or even being strong presence in the breakways but team news has been decidedly subdued without some of the mitigating factors that education. I has had for example and then a second part of my question is for Daniel and just curious what he seizes seizes the new dawn for Arsenal as far as her same old same old with our defense or is he seeing things moving in a in a more more positive direction the current squad thanks again and certainly forward to hearing your response your face lift okay real real Nathan. Thanks for your question. They thanks for the first question. Nathan team any else the being pure. I'm the I mean. They've actually had a season. I mean apart from winning third. Fronts cuts finishing first and second of civic and Bernal have have have been there. The strong writers here and a lot of the writers haven't really performed all that well now now. I suppose not the I mean. They've used to this year to to basically you give a couple of guys. The head really haven't guys who have not had many opportunities options to lead the team yet so while Powell's and tugging hall the lead the team in three races and it hasn't quite worked out for various reasons. I've got I've got a theory. I don't know if that stands up tall over over the winter. There was a lot of uncertainty around the team an expectation thing that they wouldn't carry on because I don't think anybody thought that are sponsored. Come in to to replace sky given the struggles other teams of hard to find sponsors. It seemed crazy to imagine the another thirty million four hundred million a year sponsor would materialize as for team sky wonder if not uncertainty over that you know very important winter periods when guys preparing and maybe you know keeping autism may maybe spending a bit of time and energy on speaking to their agents looking around having conversations with other teams. I wonder if that's just how to some kind of effect yeah yeah. I wonder whether they were given enough of a refresh. In terms of recruitment loss winter you you apply sauce pose price successful. Almost the worst thing you can do is is kind of trust the status quo and think that you're gonNA continue to be successful with the same guys using the same formula formula and any didn't make a lot of changes in the close season did they and they've sort of gone with the same guys and it's very difficult to know without being inside tame. Whether this kind of staleness that's criteria that is it is noticeable that the guys who are really performing young young writers tailgating and heart here Pavel Title Civic Cov Atkin Brunell Yeah and interests lawless as well yeah and they've also been obviously lucky with Chris frames cross the dynamic was it in freedoms plans to do the welter as well because you know we could conceivably be sitting here talking about him. Having won the Tour de France and then also be on well on his way to winning the welter. I'm so you know luck plays a huge and often underestimated underpaid role in these things and you've got thirty thirty seconds and Arsenal Donald burial to missing Mayton vary by ultimately by Austin. Never I hail the negativity online and it'd be pilot arson. Bangor not many typing dancer. Hi Guys here Miguel from Spain recently. I was listening to Jonathan voters explaining. How much does the sponsors interest affect the design performance of in terms of writers raises his playing it how his team is struggling when changing from Garmin to survival which meant that the a change of focus from Guntur to classic San Juan we raise in this he said explains the performance as a team and their struggle to win during a few years which you talk about missile few podcasts already. I wonder how can use plain other teams performances ending particularity thinking now about dimension mentioned that couldn't really find amendments is they switch from kindergarten to dimensioned and now the plan to change to entity into the next season. I guess that that notes that the that we as public aware of but I would love to know what you make of when it comes to through their job performance of the team. Thanks very much guys for your work. Every love from the grandeur are uh amazing so get up. Thanks thanks for your question me. Go Wow to what extent do sponsors dictate where teams focus lies. I mean this doesn't maybe linked to the previous conversation we were having about. UNLV's Primoz Rutledge. I asked me whether I was surprised by the for your deal for Roy Moore surprise some point via move is made from raw glitch actually because I think one of the issues they've had with him has been for US team with such interest in Holland and remarks such price on they they find that his performance at the June other races hasn't really had any impact in Holland and so that's why it seemed to me to make sense to have the Mulas as as a leader and enriched may have been indispensable for them even if he is a grunter. When are I mean with tons of other teams. To what extent does the sponsors interests have a bearing on the team and its focus why you would think a big one you know we don't policy tool the sort of conversations and all the kind of precious ever existed on manages from the sponsors but it's an interesting question in war identity as a team decided to give itself and because they have to choose sometimes some teams decided to become gruntal teams and other teams you look at it and it's very difficult to to discern what they what they're even aiming to be you mentioned dimension data bad and they seem to they typically decision to target the auditing classes vowel. Grin Corsica. I'm GASPAROTTO ASPRO who signed loss winter. Didn't it didn't work a tool and I think that's a strange I set have races to really target and you know they've got other artists as well and they hoped other Rajput succeeding in the grand tools and they they sent me through the volume would get better but but some teams bodily wrong Astana subtly change their recruitment or they're very vast of roster in the close season lost year you know speaking to a couple of people in the management there and they really decided to go out at the a early season stage race the one week stage races and you know we guys. I said you know he's any three or four riders but it definitely he gave their team much more of a sort of stage race overall. Um Some DC bias and it words. There's no guarantee that it it is ever GonNa come off but he and then you know again on the other side of the coin you look at Team Trek Sigfredo who who've gone of writers who were very versatile and you could be successful in las different trains and thinking about someone like but I'm Bella who here the Vuelta I he's he's got contract for next year and he's trying to get embrace and he's trying to show himself but that's a move that has not worked. You know when he came from. It came from a couple of years ago. He was very highly touted. Fabio Abby affiliates another one similar characteristics could excel on on a variety of different terrains. It's not working either. Sometimes teams are at the Mercy Marcy of the talent they have is the emerges team somewhere for example who've been John. Oh Gosh amount they built themselves the Ryen Marcel John Calvin in the early years because they had these towns expenses and the team so they teams to support them very successfully talk to Moolah then emerge and I think his performance of the Vuelta in two thousand fifteen to them by surprise but they had a choice them. What what seven thing happened Mitchelson. I didn't with mission. Scott as well yeah. I think there's more of a conscious decision. I don't think they set out they set out as a team that was I think model themselves early on will. HTC It done very successfully with false writers and time charters and that's what they were for the first couple years. He didn't really work that well. They were sort of developing slowly and Matt White came on board and things to look up but then they found themselves. Suddenly things start to look up well. They found themselves. Suddenly we three very promising young stage races in the two year olds twins and Chavez and then I can ask when they decided to give it really by Robert so this somewhere and he said they're focused here is going back to classics and stage stage when they are abandoning completely any idea of being G C team because there are very few potential winners out there and if you have one you're kind of obliged to to support them but swallows up a lot resources and money and is almost the two tiers aren't nerve in cycling world here where that our teams with a grand theory contender it needs to support that grind through content and then there are other teams that don't have and can spread the risk a little bit but yes there are teams that don't seem to have any kind of clear your Focus Atoll Fastest clothing in the world tour the home of cycling with right and watch with twenty nineteen as they partner education. I and Kenyans round hello traps nick from London here the strong showing Tapa Gotcha and Primos at this particular their first and second on lots of course last week is that some to refer to assuming you're as cycling smaller seapower just wondering what you'd attribute the recent surge in success of Slovenia MIDAS chairs and good work Savina. What's what's going on. Slovenia Danielle saluted question maybe after some revelations during the Jiro some some some untoward goings on in Slovenia Lavinia pocket jar rogue lich mathematics which is a tiny country. Isn't that what what's happened. What's what's what's produced these great writers any ideas. I said you know there's a slight. There's a note of caution because one of the the this key figures who who was incriminated in Operation Atalanta earlier this year in in Germany Austria walls meet on as a worst Bahrain Morita team and he was he's kind of been east out of the picture since the since all came to light but you know he he has had a role in primus rogue rich is the very early days of premiums inches pro career and there were a couple of there were a few serene riders involved directly in in not police investigation so yeah that that's slightly slightly concerning on the other hand you know you speak to. I spoke to Andre Hauptmann Hauptmann the other day who was the was the first Levin medalist in world championships in two thousand and one Lisbon he was second behind Oscar and talking to them out what kind of sort of demographic of firm cycling in socio demographic makeup of you've people who get inciting Selena and he said well what can cost as it has been in little places in Europe and Germany very hardworking people he was talking about Roy glitches. It's just from area of Slovenia which was famous for Mining once I'm to think delays but you know the sort of men. A few words has generally. They're quite a you know as you said about Kentucky Quite Stoic and you know I I suppose there is there is a degree of contamination effect act as I said how trailblazer but then the trickle has become a bit of a cascade hasn't the Slovenian riders and the British ride is now as well. I'm when the whether it's the Asians who the team manages start to realize that there is talent in that particular pool they start fishing and that's what's happening in the number of British a tiny pro next yeah oil the temporary next lost to threes with a real range and and you know and to an extent it's a fashion hello chaps it's Chris from Worcester and you'll be glad to know that I can confirm that they'll be at least two people coming to to watch you there. got my two tickets. I'm looking forward to it. It's a great venue actually Huntington Hallway. You are you may not know but it's a restored eighteenth century chapel so everybody's sitting in the old box pews great small venue but really good. I'm sure you enjoyed that anyway. my question is about what's happened to boot pools and quit coughs came factors well but particularly pools because he's is being kind of inconspicuous in this race at a wasn't that good in the tour either was he really did. He have a crash last year or something. I seem to remember or is he. Something happened where he's not quite sane rider again and also quite huskies pretty rubbishing in the tool really was quite good at the year before when he was leading out free the sky at the time had a good race pool is also also reasonably good that year as well but what was something to those two. What do you think just another added one to that. Too is the first stage here when when pools and Tayo Geoghegan heart lost a lot of time how come they finished exactly together these kind of a a funny one that I I thought because it's you know one of them had a bad day fair enough but then the other one would have presumably not wanted to lease time being the second leader anyway. Keep up the good work. See you soon most all the best hi guys. Steven from Belgium here. I have a question regarding regarding team. Do you guys thing team has an approach to grand tours that is so much focused on general classification indication that when that doesn't materialize like this Wonka that they don't manage to succeed in the secondary the goal of of scoring stage victories because we saw about booze and tailgate and hard triumph bid but it seems that they as a team are just not working towards the goal of stage victories. I'd like to know your view on that and good luck with the rest of the world. Will we had a question about the team announced earlier. That was Christmas Stephen there. Thanks for your questions and looking forward to seeing you in Worcester. Yeah I mean well links to the previous. Those guys have on from this year what polls meow via. Kofsky another as well polls. Were pretty sure it's moving into Bahrain. Morita aren't way donyell. We pretty sure I'm not I'm not sure I think there are a couple of things. He's maybe sending a shakeup okay well. We don't know why polls an FIA coughs of underperformed this year but they have a thing via Kofsky. Excuse I'm starting to he was supposed to go through Poland off the France and I think he felt like he'd got his preparation wrong for the tour he has been very strong in the past and he just got it wrong whether he overdid it but he wasn't. He wasn't really wanted to be an and I think he's a guy who is is clearly very talented and you have to ask whether he's in the right team. You know I I can see. I'm going to CCC desperate to get him. Get him already but they're. GonNa have to wait until his contract expires. Which I think is probably the end of next year but you can. I can imagine faculty being assaulted Greg Vermont Tight where he is the undisputed leader of of of the team and the guy who gets support law racist because he seems wasted in a support role really give them the town that he has and but otherwise I mean the other question question about. Why did they finish their well. They both sat up thinking up point. I mean I don't think it was a strategic or younger. Legs the legs and you might as well sit up and it doesn't matter whether you lose nine minutes or twenty minutes as far stations in is concerned. I just think that media very mediocre. They're just like they're just another another team. When it comes to that particular discipline and you know that that comes from the fact that they didn't really focus on it and they don't really practice I generally when they go to stage races. They are hard to to win to to to go from a very specific job. I'm in a in a support to the guys before I remember on the twenty three road race here in Innsbruck. The REFU- right is there world world tour teams and had been all year cannon fodder and used in a work Israel and that was very strange for them. James Shaw was one of them actually to find themselves mm subs in a race where they're actually contesting for the win and not learn attacking and following moves in order to try and win. That's very strange are difficult adaptation to make AAC as I say when you used to the briefing the bus in the morning every morning being all about supporting later and what you're GonNa do to support leader. There's there's no real contingency discussed happens. You know on sixteen your ninety race days a year. It's quite difficult than to probably adopts to a different scenarios. Yeah I just think comes down to a lack of practice really shoot shoot that I do. I think podcast team car the back of the tax lease. Thank you very much to set. PK Voice of race radio the Tour de France reminding us tell you that this episode evolve well to coverage is sponsored by the economist Richard. Your regular read read of the Economist. What is your this is your subscriber Lionel. Am I show subscriber now well. 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This is rob from day can Holland first of all I would like to thank you for your very formative objective an interesting coverage of the cycling scene in general and in particular earlier in my opinion you really stand out in your journalistic approach and level of knowledge of the cycling scene. My question is about the way so you get a knowledge about the non-english speaking side the cycling interest in if you are willing to learn another language you're all English issue speaking journalists and therefore you tend to speak about the English speaking riders to get you information maybe few cycling and more anglo-saxon way cycling is becoming more a national and the number of English speaking writers is increasing. I think but there are still quite a lot of Italian French Spanish colonial Columbia teams do not speak English dangles speaks English and in his coverage of Jiro that was real effort in understanding standing the way Italian teams riders and maybe more or less like way of approaching the race to France you incorporate knowledge of Francois Francoist Tommaso but in this town Spanish letting view on the races missing so my question is have you ever thought about or tried learning French Spanish Italian to get the information out first-hand. Do we think that will be s it for you. I would love to hear your opinion about this. Thanks greetings from rob. Thanks for your question. Robin Holland joined by another Dutch resident here. I thought through the CEO Lewis questioned because one year a very gifted linguist as well and we had a very similar question lost an which Donya Lonzo Daniels els language skills are amazing. He speaks fluent Italian French German and Spanish and so that is a huge advantage wantage definitely in in cycling on I don't I don't have not gift are having applied myself or you might say and I did have a conversation with Pierre a third of the day. My French is okay. It's rudimentary but it's okay but you on a as well. You speak a few languages. I do not as well most goes to them as Danielle but is speak fluent French. I've been teaching myself Italian Portuguese German speaking Spanish. It'll be learning Dutch watch. When you speak pretty good German my German it's good I mean if broadcast before in German but the problem is and this is Daniel as a massive advantage. It is not for any to learn any language to any proper degree of competency. You really have to spend a lot of time in the country or a considerable amount of time in the country dedicating yourself to that just communicating with people. I'm not sure I fully dymock as a few years ago. I decided to do this party. Mainly for that reason actually because I thought my my job so international and a nice specialize in cycling but have done a lot of other sports just internationally and I thought it'd be a huge advantage and so I spent spent a winter essentially I had three our commute every day to and from work and I spent a winter just listening to it was time German and Italian with a bit of Portuguese and the Spanish had just teach myself and I got here reading landfall and all of them bought I had a child at the time of not to kids and so going off and spending time in these countries to properly learn. It is actually really difficult so that I think it is a huge advantage and I think the even if you don't have a fluency in the language it's it's always beneficial anyway because you can get to learn more about a writer by reading into that. They've done the native language by listening to what they're saying to their own domestic journalists as well and understanding snippets of it you get a fatal for them and and it's also pretty an icebreaker. I thank in this world we travel around in this bubble where English is the dominant language after welter Spanish as well but it's so easy speaking the journalists just to chat to be built as soon as you start speaking to them a little bit in their language then you've made a connection and then they remember you're not really useful. Actually I'll be learning Dutch since I'm Saddam but because of them in the center everyone speaks such an English I actually it took me until was at the women's chair a this year for me to speak probably more than I do in my day to day life and Saddam because Tim Harris was the air and he discovered that I was learning does not speaks fluent Flemish so he insisted he was only going to speak to me in Flemish and I had to reply dot and it was the same I met my boss's father hank who his English places quite basic so we were talked each other every dots and so it's really useful and not sense. Even if you don't get to degree of fluency I've selfie monitor jury so it's not like I'm stopping learning but any extra that you can have to connect with writers to connect with. Es is to understand that where I think is really useful. I totally agree. I mean do your shortcut. Tonight is as journalists and we got love information. I mean you tend to get more information from turn other journalists anyway than you do. I want the from the ashes and writers and you know there's a couple here between the Hebrew Corvette Data Belgian. Journalists is here for us. Bond you just just a mine of information on if you speak Spanish journalists you can also find an awful lot about the Columbian Spanish writers and so on and we have a front last couple of years part of our team. He's working for the wealth this year so he couldn't be hoped. We'd have him on a bit more but he's very busy doing that job. At the Jira we have Daniel which is pretty much the same as having an Italian journalist Marco penalty said Donyo yet. Did I say that the other Jerome Margaret Diagnose more about Italian cycling than any and the Children France we have friends who are Tomasson. I is a huge asset and we'd love to have the same at the time. We're we're kind of you know certainly open to not because it does just open a door into not culture annul the writers and somebody we want to do. I think you and Daniel you know have a gift for languages and I think once you know two is easier to then learn a third and I'm stuck it. You know my passable French when I absolutely need to speak at bomb Stephanos competent but I think that's exactly it. It's confidence because my sp- like I've never taken Spanish license. I've only ever taught myself if I was here for the Spanish speaker traveling around. I would let them the talking. Nobody in our team speak Spanish so I'm doing all the talking in Spanish to the policemen today drive through at McDonalds last night. I'm the only one on his more Spanish for big big Mac I had polio which is a chicken and with that but that's not malice have the knots because you're always traveling with people who speak the language really well and so it's not necessarily laziness. It's more effective to let them do the talking what you need to today. This is what I mean by. You have to move to your country after put yourself in a position where you're only form of communication is searching mining your own brain really and but what I was gonna say is one. It's it is really useful in the to pick through. The brains of journalists are not country. I do find I. I'm a journalist I think he gets an awful lot from human interaction and I'm most interested in the human behind any of the stories and for that you really need to speak to the right as I I mean we were speaking in English but one example I thought of the other day whenever we had Primoz road blitz on the show I've never I've never had the chance to speak to log leash before and he comes across awesome interviews as being very measured very calm and just doesn't get very much away but when you speak to someone and I asked about his family and then his eyes lit up and then he was human Dan I gotta feed eighty four what matters to him and you can't really get that from reading other people's interpretations or listening to other People's interpretations because you'll only have that filter three which to see the rider or the situation so yeah learning the language I think is about fundamental. It's hard. It's hard you know what we've all got busy lives and busy jobs and this isn't the only thing that we do and most of us have family okay so it's a work in progress. I think a UP Gareth from nothing. I've got a couple of questions for the saqlain. POKE CAST press conference. The first question realized some comments that Nik scholtz made jeering diarrhea trae for the time travel today he mentioned that hey in quite a few of the other domestics rided would use it pretty much as a third rest day just ride into stay within the time limits for that stage so I was wondering why they guys don't ride on the road bikes rouses in a time trial bikes road bikes been a bit more stable handling-wise less chance of crushing Shen Assault Moore collectibles well so it's just interesting to know what you guys thought of that. My second question is a question for rich kids. I've just been listening to friends of the podcast grim to a dia physical Welzer at the end of Richard's entry. He said the looking forward to the Vuelta co into Benadryl in twenty-nine saying of course it gives them a chance to tell his story by don't believe he's still not so it just be interested to hear Richard's Benadryl. I'm story. I'll see you guys unless they've already got my tickets and I'm looking forward to it. Thanks for your question Garth. Having that's a really good question in the neck shows more here. We'll hear his diary in a moment on James Knox's as well. I think it's a really good question. I mean why do guys right on time. Trial Bikes have a nick says to this yet. You Still GonNa make time limit. Haven't you and the severity gains that you get full time job. I could just free free free wine. Isn't it free was yeah. I guess so as the other question disappointing. I'm afraid I I said that because I just read about bannon dominant by the mayor of Benadryl. Am was instrumental in transforming that town into tourist jurist estimation. This is probably not as much as you imagine. The might be there. We're not tell us on mentioned there I think but it was I thought it was really interesting and it was interesting rising because it sort of help define Spain's image as a tourist destination in the way so it's not like when it came to this year couldn't find where I'd read read this and I couldn't find the story and I spent some time with Lionel trying to find the story that I'd read and it was great but I read it in a book and I can't remember which books are sorry about that well. The question is nine was he. Yes or an opportunity I think can bikinis already being wound widely in Europe and he knew about this repressive regime on a very repressive and and Franco this sad I go back on pride himself and being very liberal and he decided that the big Qian's we're going to be allowed him. Benadryl and he supposedly legend agent has it gone his room road road hours to Madrid to have a personal conversation with a face to face conversation with Franco and he persuaded well there then there's a story maybe I maybe read the same book but it's a good story anyway. Let's say let's hear from the shoes who it does answer this question as well. Here's Nick and also James Knox with his rest day diary the hang on to very easy on my sleep in two only ten o'clock a lovely breakfast prepared by Chef Niki and then a a cold and drizzly ride actually was non degrees and speeding rain. did twenty. I think kept it really easy came back to the hotel so the Osteo then just before having lunch and then had a long Siesta had an hour's sleep MHM workup had a little snack and then spend an hour on the massage table which pretty much brings me to now so now I'm just hanging out DNA and get some more food than me for a long day tomorrow which is unfortunately predicted to be a windy so in typical wealth style stage that could have been a pretty controlled and and more or less flatten his strong crosswinds. Just gotTa love how many there's a question from a from a listener in regards gods to the Tom trawl back in the second week in regards. Let's to the fact that I said I I went easy and that a lot of Rodriguez did sir and if that's the case why don't we just raw dow how roadblocks in basically for the reason of being more comfortable well the t t blankie okay significantly faster so I guess barreling contra walk. You actually get to Rod easier whereas if you if you would Roger Road back back you'd have to Rod Free T. Hod to to make the time cut. I think it just it just wouldn't be ideal. It's also just a nice to do do something different on a personal level. Go through the motions. Little bit spend a little bit of Tom t t bar because I'm not one to to do a lot of it and I also I get a lot of sonus from rotting at the next day but yeah that's a that's a really good question and certainly I can see I can see where you're coming from but I think it's from a pure speeds perspective. the bike is just a lot easier to go a lot foster so you that's all for me today. Oh try and get the last few hours of rest in a good night's sleep before heading back to battle Tamar and of the second rest day now been another lazy day making the most of feeling tired and baskin in my own fatigue nor a lot talk about really after down yesterday one of the heat best as in you know in my career as a writer so happy without moved up the the GPC into eleven so didn't expect to be in this position so that's nice fills chipping in neidl Gannett to eleven so that's about that's his that's his opinions on the Mar.. Yeah love help as well together. Nisi four guys at the front was pretty cool. Move Tense Wilma almost say WanNa say reading this question stage win top ten yeah. I've got my eyes on. Both I guess you know fill out. The legs are good to go for a stage win but now a good opportunity to try and move up on phonology position as well so we'll see what happens keep focused and today just as long as possible good lion lazy four kilometer ride into Bogas found a nice cafe style terrain and that's all five zero in the rain which is a shame. It's also really cold so cold. It was only seven degrees for the most of the rights another not getting a massage and some physio some some parts of the body bit stiff right in the hips the neck Dr Check my urine that was all good running not really not really tunnel to the commune marine stage in the tour watched it from Admiral bias on you all the roads and I used to ride over either Gopher News at Newcastle University when when I eighteen nineteen so y if you times I wrote a from my own Kendall to Newcastle went light basically the route so going in said book could be Stephen Bruce Middleton T- stunt of Admiral buyers has a ninety into Newcastle so watching racing on roads on you really well my dot grouping Curvy Stephen which was about seventy seventy kilometers from the finish and then instead billiton's left down then Dale Lenovo Bob and Dale some spots spots. Were quite a few spots on the call so I did some foul races when I was younger than insecure. Lonzo were what manure went to sixth form over the old home call the same local road races in time-trial circuit as well so race AH roads I know really well from racing and training. It's actually like my favorite area to train going east from my home in Levin south of Kendal himself yeah I wouldn't say I was jealous but it was nice to see watching on Donovan of Cumbria hanging in there hanging in tough is a bit of a a roof spell this year so he looks like he was going back and fighting fit and also a lot of people. I know well in rice race. Oh Pre entertaining watching unopposed sensational to finish yeah. That's my rest. They really have a steak. Take for dinner tonight. Semi it with some I in for the last week. I'll see I've got so yeah. Hopefully goes okay The second podcast is supported by science in Sport Science in sport fueled by science since thank you very much to scientists sport or for their support of the cycling podcast and you can get twenty five percent off with the code. Sis C. P. Twenty five at science in sport. Don't come H APPS Mike calling in from the Washington. DC area loving the cover of two so far keep up the good work seventy been following the sport for few years but for my life cannot recall the wilt ever visiting Portugal. It's been a France a few times in recent years. I think they eight at grungy pretends names a few years ago the time trial and Po this year which makes sense as the Aso owns and operates Vuelta but y know Portugal is is there some political reason whereas a matter of principle Portugal refuses to host the race or the Air Folk Aso refuses to send it there. Is it a question of geography that aground Potenza and say Lisbon would be so far from any interesting terrain that the wilt organizers would need to insert several lengthy flat stages along transferred to fit such a stage into the rest of the race a suspect. This is not the culprit as you mentioned. The last press conference Spain has mountains and other interesting terrain pretty much all over the country. Can it simply be that no city in Portugal has raised their hands to host stage start or finish. I'd have to think that Portugal has its sheriff's stunning scenery interesting terrain and would be well worth visiting UH. I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Thanks guys. Thanks for your question. Mike is a great question. I've actually laughed Daniel than in the bar and I was Kim employees to try and research this properly and I can't find Daniel's swears that he has been with Vuelta and be can't remember which year I can't find it. I am we went very very close to Portugal loss year. It isn't it isn't obvious place to go. I would say two do things have your. Pin the race to have on kilometer zero on Monday and did make the point that doesn't leave its borders quite as much much as or doesn't cross borders quite as much as a third of France and the ged. Talia does tend to stay largely in Spain this year we went to endure and France runs and and I think a lot of resources Daniel Syria lot resources in Portugal into the two reports ago which is broadcast live and you perhaps they want to preserve as the the jewel in their crime as far as cycling goes cycle is not quite as big as is in Spain France Italy and there isn't quite the same tradition not not same number of top writers. There are few M. Star was rumored for portal some time ago but didn't didn't happen as I can't find the last time the Vuelta went went to Spain Portugal. Somebody listening will no please let us know it's Phil here from Glasgow has been a friend of the podcast pass from day one and currently speaking on Sunday. This is the first grand tour I haven't watched any of for years and years and years should should I start watching now. Thanks thanks Phil. I think I know what is going to say to this. Why am I going to say no. No I wouldn't see how much that's right. I mean he could be quite good. I shouldn't say that is a TV watcher now tomorrow it could be you could kickoff. Couldn't it yeah. The guys must like these time tomorrow the guys who need to gain time probably the mafia-style voice fill as long as you're listening to my ass. You'll not miss a thing oh you are and I would watch it. They're going to be two beautiful when interesting mountain stages eventually for the landscapes sickly Saturday state to the grade offs mountain range to be west of Madrid. Okay Daniel LASCO for dinner in this lovely wine hotel. We we did a lot of questions this week and apologies. If we well out to your as we got through as many as we would have liked but we've run out of time little and we'll we'll be thinking on the press conference next week so if we didn't answer your question this same Senate again for next week because it's not really a question of quality is just a question of as as we listen to them we answer them and we kind of get through them all but thank you very much everyone who has an phoned in questions much-appreciated. Daniel what recommend here apparently if he wanted the lime. Which is the specialty you target advanced. Have you done that now. Should we do that. I'll be there so Taibbi. Glam mom Dan no Lomb York is very good. Get some milk fantastic shoulder typically well. We're going to delicious. Meal of some description and line will join us tomorrow vinyls back. He's he's actually mid air as I speak as exciting. Isn't that wonderful. Thank thank you. Daniel for you also

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The Super Randonneur - 2 of 2

The Passion People Podcast

29:05 min | 1 year ago

The Super Randonneur - 2 of 2

"Aven sports was one of the only jobs that made sense to me. Can you imagine you're fit all the time and then you get paid for. That's that's a joke. You get paid for playing a sport and then once I checked off all those and you can take them off in the season you get this card and if you've done this two hundred the six hundred range of rights if you're done all of them in one season you're a super engineer. I was fired of the community that I got onto. This and I happened to be at the time I happen to be the second youngest buzzing We A or mimic a lot of what the pros do whether or not it. It actually makes a difference. We'd love to do it. Shaving legs for instance airtime again. You get from shaving Alexis almost negligible the reason we do. It is because was pros do it and because they do it it becomes cool. The Hyderabad cycling community gave me so much like I wouldn't know about cycling in this. Must I walk inside cycling It pays me money. Basically my monthly wages. I would annoyed if I didn't if I wanted to fight with the Hyderabad. Bicycling Club. Hello and welcome to the fashion people. PODCAST you're listening to season two episode eighteen five to the Bachelor podcast chronicles stories of people who follow their passion. And I'm making it manifest. If this is the first time you're listening to the podcast you might want to check out. You can independently listen to a couple of episodes are structured as two part special episodes to keep the length of the podcast month. Every every fortnight we interview passionate individuals from across the world ranging from mountain years to lawyers winters to EA scientists cyclists. We're trying to cover and showcase that ordinary people are capable of doing extraordinary things. Yes I'm talking about you you who's joining and you can do extraordinary things and we want to inspire. Are you with stories of individuals who are already doing it. Sort of individuals who you will not read about in the news stories of individuals who you will not come to nor from anywhere else in today's episode wherein talk with Rahman Got Mellow was a mechanical engineer L. A. Cyclist and a sports scientist in the second part of our conversation. We talk about the importance of the Hyderabad. Bicycling Club Lebron Rahman and how it shaped cycling career. What he does when he gets bored easily and how he keeps things interesting the importance importance of having a large of complexity in whatever passion that you take up and of course the burns community and having a set of like minded individuals around you? Then you're trying to do something significant in your life. I'm sure you'RE GONNA love this episode before I wrap up. Here's a quick friendly reminder to subscribe and read the show to help improve its discover ability monetization still a long way Eh for us to achieve but in the meantime we're trying to make some money by selling some cool passion people podcast merchandise. If you need more. Where did I leave some information the shown on you can always tweet me and get the details of the amazing people? podcasts shirts and hoodies that we have right right now on sale. Thank you so much for tuning in. Enjoy your show so getting back to your day job. After eight months you do end up believing your day job eventually. Yeah I did and I know one could talk me out of it. 'cause I was hard headed and yet it'd be if I decided I decided to know reconsidering than yeah. I haven't noticed speed but what was happening in Wylie started this job was I picked up as a hobby like I said I joined this Serb Hobby Club on the weekends and got more and more involved with them. Because it's Hyderabad Bicycling Club. I don't I don't work with. They've now but back then. It is very important to my life it was community building it was sports and it was also traveled nick. We would go on our bikes on Hyderabad. We would even go within a B.. I remember chips Kanada. There was Ivan Window kind defended. I made through cycling. So yeah. This was all talk Distance at that time so for me. It wasn't speedo winning races when I started off with just distance challenges. I add had this Cycle that I bought just after moving back to my hometown and digiland every month was okay. Hey how much longer can I go now. And that became a bragging rights when I rent from I struggled to do a ten kilometer loop in the first month and then six months later. I taught Well just looking back one hundred fifty kilometers and then that's when the thing that the seed got in my head that I maybe I can. Maybe maybe maybe cycling is a sport. I should try out. You know because even at the chided sports was one of the only jobs that made sense to me even now. It stood as being an athlete. That job just makes sense to me makes you wake up your take care of your body your fit all the Dunkin you Madina fit all the time time and then you get paid for. That's a joke. You get paid for playing a sport says a bit of show involved. You know people are watching and it's just a job just makes sense to me absolutely and I guess this is a nice time for me to ask you this. Whenever they're in a lot of cases and and especially for people like you and me who get bored pretty quickly? You're always seeking new things. How do you stay motivated one to kind of continue? When you're doing this on a on a long-term basis I when you hit the plateau and secondly how do you keep yourself? Because they were using all of this as a distraction action from something else occupying you did you. Did you feel some kind of a loss of affection for for this. Whatever cycling or or whatever it is that you're doing when you change your attention from panting I'm not just lean into it and it kind of swept you'll yeah yeah? It was really obsessed with forty as but luckily what happened was I might focus in the first. Half of that was distanced. Install I used to do was long distance cycling and then I found events that you could do just as a distance shot in. So do you know that it's going out grind durance like in running. This does dench half marathon and a mountain in anything above. Madison is an Ultra Ultra Mountain. Eldora event so I got into that That I would do one hundred two hundred four hundred five hundred six hundred Rides that and and then once I checked off all those and you can take them off in the season you get this card and if you've done this two hundred to six hundred range of rights if if you're done all of them in one season you're a super underneath I am that I was one of the I was part of the community that I got on to this end. I happen to be at the time I happened to be the second youngest On that while among those liberty basically the thing was I later learned that you don't have to be young to do this. You can do this when in your order as what you probably even In a better position do after events as you're older because you have your body's more efficient in doing doing that kind of Arabic exercise your mind is more stable Does more wisdom more communists. which is you know you're GONNA be lonely only in Kenya Madden six hundred kilometers? Even if you're with someone he'd Gambia is you're very much in your head and it's almost meditative so I think people pull you know a better suited for for that discipline. Luckily whether realizes as someone who was Twenty four then there was this whole otherwise of competitive citing racing speed. Yeah then I immediately jumped onto so I was able to get bored of Iranians and move on into something within cycling so I go to use the all electric Misiag shrum from long-distance dieting and bake it to riding writing fast and that that was an acceptable means cycling. So yeah that if that answered your question of getting bored with wanting and moving onto another absolutely and ready to you a able to reach similar milestone around near equivalent of speed no in. It's all about position already about the win the race to finish top three so I did that. Yeah I was State jammed been for the last united on the show. I was the last champion of united entrepreneurs so you are talking to celebrate now we ask and my distance was roared. I didn't do mountain biking working on track as much although I am the track champion as well for one discipline. Okay but road was my thing road cycling and then I did races locally in Hyderabad than I started organizing Electrique time you haven't is you have or do you do so sided organising this by myself. We we had a whole season before I left. Had I altered the Biden. This in my state in Bangalore is to come and go to the national discourse so my best finish at the nationals. uh-huh was throughout. This was in honor in two thousand thirteen. I think well that's amazing. Yes so that that was the trading volume was little less than what it used to be full longest citing that that can be addictive as well. Because it's it's really one of the few things that can keep you enjoying cycling because you can get bored of groups you can get bored of. CD's good board of people entering partners. But you can never get bored of speed. He should keep getting foster and foster. That's that's something everybody should expedience and cycling is. Perhaps the best way to do that because running just in terms of speed right running in tackling. Yuki you can do thirty five far to give him a dozen our by yourself. If you're really good in running the rush may be maybe a little less wind wind. Absolutely and as as I think I can relate word. You're saying because there's only that faster I can go and you also tend to burn out a lot quicker in in in case. Yeah and it's likely will my work. Nowadays a lot with target faucet on a bike not in duns Ashra physiology but wants to get into that that bracket of Teddy bless llamas analogy it becomes about cheating the wind and how edited enemy position. Yourself however McGuinness setup on the bike be can you add or remove a few elements that can take you foster Romo streamline. Can you wait a jazzy. That can raise jazzy Helmet that can get you faster by a few seconds you know. All that tends to matter your diet choices than it yeah so once speed Yudhijit obsessed with speed does a lot of things to keep you occupied for a few years. It's I want your own fitness Europe. Paddle your equipment your access cities and Decem strategic decisions. Like what kind of ties should I put on on. And what British should it be. What is the weather conditions? If it's going to be slippery. Do I have the scale to manage being fast and keep my balance on the bike. This gap APD things that you can get fast that occupied for Columbia. Honestly before before I spoke to you I always. I knew that there are a lot of cycling enthusiasts and there's a lot of science that goes into it but I had no clue that this is the level of complexity or the level we love you know preparedness that goes into it and you know this is something that blows my mind and what blew my mind was when I I was in go on either longtime songs book and as much as the dishonor he has brought to himself and the sport and people that book because you know a still even the book we wrote Gokul and I refused to this book in in the condition. This is in our top ten books instead we would recommend to anybody who wants to abort citing he was. I mean it's the best it's a wide wide Reason and veggies one of. It's the biggest reasons is net people realize that cycling is so much more than just a guy getting on a bike and writing One of the things that I learned was back then before I even started was the second of the team sport. An hour bordon adding Is One very obvious way is like I said it's cheating the and if you can position teammate in front of you to cheat the windfall you and you drive ride in the slipstream That's already you know this being research on this end based on how many dementia lineup and trying to view that gain can be anywhere between five and forty percent and that's the physics aspect of it but then this if you have all these people if you imagine you have four people at your disposal who make job to make you win the race and then strategy not. This is almost like a game of chess where you may Oscar de mid to fake attack and then that may force arrival of fuels to chase that attack on Indian himself out and that way you kind of bun the matches you know. It's blinding matches. You bundy matches Sofala opponents if you have strong teammates And one of my favorite courses racing's all about licking your open and split clean before. Go on get clean and yeah so strong book. Is You know full of nuggets like this and I would recommend you know after you've bought my I book you should by eight. He's had two autobiographies end. The first one is water dot enough. Now Okay Okay so so I guess the takeaway for me in all of this and as someone who who talks to people follow their passion raiders. That I guess we need a to something. That is sufficiently complex enough that we can keep getting more and more out of it and it seems very evidently there. Cycling is one of these sports because I I remember eating some weather playing an instrument you have like a billion compensation than combinations of how you can get the same same northerner guitar how you can create a specific owned owned and I can see. That's they're cycling as well and what is interesting for me. Is that for people tuning in. It's important important that they understand that when they're looking for a passion when they're looking for an adventure over there on a dive deep into something it needs to be a subject with a lot of dipped tipped and very bell position to be that. Yeah I would say in the cycling community WE APE or mimic a lot of what the pros do whether or not it actually makes a difference. We love to do it. Shaving legs for instance instance any cyclist. WHO's done it fall in? Most cyclists have done for the euro two road cyclists. They start shaving lex immediately. You know I a a lot of people think. What's the point is to become aerodynamic? It's not actually you know. The aerodynamic gain you get from shaving delays almost negligible the reason we do it it is because pros do it and because they do it it becomes cool day to it because they have a couple of other reasons Because you know they get massages does every day and having had on your skin Gabby baneful if you're getting massages everyday that's one reason and road cycling also prone to falling a lot and getting ration Russian. You know scabs on this can entertaining those wounds becomes easier when it's when it's free of head to that's why we do it and A lot of like I said the gear choices than this obsession which you know every cyclist tends to have beyond After you've Gordon into cycling for let's say two years it's very obsessive and bottled it. Obsession is because it down from rose to as whether or not it makes defense in in you know in my local league. That's a different question. But they do it so we should do it and as you say it probably is probably. That'll be ahead of the away to keep your mind occupied in that complexity absolutely and like I said this is this is so insightful site for would have never thought of it in particular across and that's great than the Diet of courses cyclists. Being the minimum wage is the lowest body fat possible and checking on the weighing scale every day. That's another I should probably make a list of all these works But is that. Is that an unhealthy thing. Do you think like you used to be doing these. Six hundred kilometer races. Are these speed very finished up twelve. That meant that you're obviously very vigorous exercise dean. But now you've kind of a more on an academic now right and so. Does that mean like you. You did your fitness completely reduce or. Are you still moderately. Do feel if I force you that you would consider you like a hundred K.. Kind of raid need. I do that actually this year so I stopped competing in racists. I stopped doing competitive events. I'd still do one. Two T events events every year if if it's a a route that I like or if it's challenging road. I do undergo under could divides now but there were to be. They wouldn't be an alert goes to the speed. I used to be doing that. I still have my bike but every yet I think all is his next going to be the comeback cycling. Then I think no because I got back to football football now. I'm actually I used to hate running and I've decided to be my best drowning yet and I do stay That's always that's never gonNa go away but cycling fitness facing thank goodness. That's not that I don't know if I ever decide to. You know do masters massing is above thirty five forty at that age category. Maybe I read I dunno got so what what. What have you done to kind of package? All of this learning and knowledge inexpedient that you have on taking right now. Yeah this this book man I I like when I was acting I used to do a variety of jobs A probably did know eight or ten different jobs. Some of them by ban some of them freelance one of them was writings. I fall sports GITA. I was the cycling contributor for Sports. GITA DOT COM than ice tonight for my friends bike shop and their blog. I had another friend who did events corporates survived for the magazine. And you know. I always wondered about cycling acting again and I did that now with the very trying to mind Gokul from Hyderabad. We decided as a new year's resolution to start to who come out with a book and it was last year. It wasn't this year so we had a whole era behind resolution. But we finally got it done. It's it it looks beautiful. It looks absolutely gorgeous. The paperback the idea. I was just to come out than e book but then you know a in Gokul circles. Those he's the one more active in the insurgency. Now people started asking fall paperbacks and then he finally Proud of it. One reason at the dissertation Tagesanzeiger One was we. Were getting tired of rehashing. The onset of the same questions out friends and family had you know friends and family will come to me. Hey our bike which wants you to buy and then we get into annoy you. Don't understand is not that simple. We have to have this blah. You know you need to understand what what budget you have. What goals you WanNa get into acting? Why not something I? You should about cycling Tackling the checklist. So there's this whole like algorithm of chickening out which by someone should by then we talked. Hey we've we've done this dozens of times over the last five ten years wouldn't it be be smart Writing somewhere so we did that. We we have a book. I don't know how many pages I haven't seen the paperback at how many pages ninety the under opening it as we speak here. It's a nice nice booklet with a lot of basic information. It has answers to all the questions that anybody who's cutest about cycling has it spans across ages in fact it's in is being treated Amazon has is number one bestseller on Amazon in the sports category. Thank you indicate sports so it's for kids younger for anybody. Who can who reads? English is interested in in in the sport of cycling as a hobby as Lifestyle choices are as competitive sport. This book I want to say I believe in it. It's a quality product. It has all the answers. There's nothing else that I would like to add to. It is quite comprehensive one one twenty eight pages and looks like you're really doing that selling thing. Well good job. Yeah I also want to say that one was getting tired of people asking this question as making a joke. I don't get tired of you know helping out. The other part was the Hyderabad. Cycling Community gave me so much like I. I wouldn't know about cycling in this. must've I work inside. Cycling is my livelihood now it pays me money. I would annoy if if I didn't if I wasn't a by the head of the mud. Bicycling Club the wonderful people there who took me under their rings who taught me the basics and and I somehow setbacks them. Let's so to speak because I got into it a lot more seriously than dated so both from Oakland and me to solve. This book is dedicated to the cycling community at large but in specific do Hyderabad. Because it's way of giving back right and what's the what's the premise. Behind the name of the Book Escape Velocity Escape off the. Yeah that's A. It's a personal reason why I came. came up with a Mystical it's it's a phrase that stuck to be goes back two thousand fourteen where I was in Indiana's facing and dilemma failed again. I thought I was done with the dislike my corporate job. I probably need needed to move on to something else. And for that I needed an escape velocity because it almost like I couldn't do it just by myself so I needed inescapable also something that could take. We ought to orbit and beg me to the next step which was studying spos- inciting citing God's than just being an athlete in it that wagon insurance motifs action just mind so escaping lusty from that And go collect the trays as well. Because he guides people. He's coach now. He coaches cyclists. He coaches athletes. He also go to people who just want to get off the couch. So it's he liked it because to get on on a bike unit in escape velocity to take you off the couch and that's densities in behind the name antastic and has that has tuning in and who's interested in knowing more about the book. David be details on the show notes and related posts on. How what you can do to win? A copy of the book and links to Amazon de related websites from where you can buy the book will be part of the show notes and so so that's why people can get the book so would be okay if people also email. You reached out to you with questions on cycling on your transition and if someone is L. is willing to embark on him about. We'll be okay if that he started. Yeah absolutely remote and happy to do that. Because it if there's something that the book doesn't answer with more than happy to shelby What comes after that does so much more than We've seen that happen to show other people especially especially young people because I was a young guy who who could have used his book you know if I was citing often cycling. This book could have saved me a lot of time an effort to if there's anybody else young people are their parents will be more than happy to talk with Dr About cycling and racing inside link and before I forget I always forget to mention this hour dimension. A victory He's the gentleman who wrote the forward for a book he is. He's no ordinary guy. He's actually he's a fastest man in the world. Does this thing go to our guard that a guy was on a bike. Innovator editor-owner track nodoze over things and this cycle for one hour. And he hoards of guided world record of more than fifty five kilometers on a bike so he is the pastas In the woods and he was gracious enough to do like the forward for our book and I can't thank him enough. I always forget to of not Jim. I just wanted to mention engines named once again. He's younger than us. He's an absolute gentleman. And you know thanks once again for writing the fantastic. Thanks for being on the show and walking us through your journey and concluding on the book. I'm sure a lot defied listeners. The book can learn motorboat cycling and the Second Community in Hyderabad. And I hope that They also reach out to you in case they they need the any any kind of guidance and thanks again hooding time to be on the podcast. Thank you thank you very much. It's always a pleasure talking to you. You and I can't tell you enough or good listener. You are of the sixty minutes. I may have spoken for fifty eight. Thanks for giving me that stage raise. Thanks for tuning into the show. We appreciate you taking the time out for this issue. Lakewood you heard. Please share this with a few friends and leave a review. fating on your favorite podcast Taser. This will help more people learn about the podcast and LEX. Time is critical. And the Basham people podcast wishing you a wonderful week ahead. Steve Bashed

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45: A Giant Mass Anomaly

SpaceTime with Stuart Gary

31:37 min | 1 year ago

45: A Giant Mass Anomaly

"This is space time series, twenty two pursued Forty-five for broadcast on the nineteenth of June twenty nineteen coming up on space-time a giant mess. Anomaly detected under the moon's largest crater discovery of the UK's biggest ever Meteo impact side and the asteroid with a one in seven thousand chance of hitting the earth that September all that more coming up on space time. Welcome to space time. We'd Stewart Gary. Mysterious lodge massive materialists Bain discovered deep in the, the solar systems, largest impact crater, the moon, south pole at can basin. The findings reported in the journal geophysical research, letters, suggest the structure may contain metals from the asteroid, which formed, the crater, the study's lead author, assistant professor, Peter James from Baylor, University, says the strategy some five times larger than the big island of Hawaii, the Atkin basin is civil kilometers date and some two thousand kilometers wide roughly the distance between Sydney Australia, Auckland, New Zealand or New York City to Lincoln Nebraska, despite its size. The base in can't be seen from earth, because it's on the fast side of the moon aside, which never faces the earth. Scientists detected the normally by measuring settled changes in the strength of gravity around the moon using Nassar's gravity recovery, and interior artery spacecraft grail when combined with lunatic puffy data from this as lunar reconnaissance. Peta scientists determined. There was an unexpectedly large amount of mass hundreds of kilometers beneath the south pole Atkin basin. One of the possible explanations for this extra mass is that it's metal from the asteroid's core, which formed the crater in the first place that middle still embedded in the moon's mantle James says that this dense mass whatever it is. And wherever it came from is weighing the basin floors down by more than a kilometer computer simulations of largest, droid impacts on the lunar surface suggests that under the right conditions. The I nickle core of metallic asteroid may be dispersed into the upper mantle during impact, the authors calculated that is a fishing dispersed, asteroid impact, or could will remain suspended in the moon's mantle until the present day, rather than sinking data the moon's core. Of course, it's not the only possibility. It's also possible that the lodge mash, maybe a concentration of dense oxides associated with the final stages of. Lunar magma ocean solidification, James. Is that they serve Paul can basin thought been created about four billion years ago is the largest preserved crater in the solar system. Well lottery impacts have occurred throughout the solar system history, including on earth. Most traces of these have been lost. I'm Stewart Gary. You're listening to space time. Scientists have finally pinpointed the impact side of giant kilometer wide asteroid which slammed into what is now northwestern Scotland, one point two billion years ago evidence for the giant ancient Beck was discovered back in two thousand and eight but the exact location of ground zero remained a mystery. At least until now a report in the journal of the geological society pinpointed, the crater some fifteen to twenty kilometres west of a remote part of the Scottish, coastline around Loch broom. The study's lead author, Dr Khin Amel from Oxford University, says the thickness and extended that Abry deposit suggests the impact crater was close to the coast, but it's precisely -cation had remained a mystery using a combination of field observations the distribution of broken rock fragments that his basement class, and the alignment of magnetic particles allowed the authors to determine the direction the meteorite material took from several locations thereby plotting the likely location of the crater than you data shows. It's buried beneath water and younger rocks in the Minch basin. Iowa says it's an exciting discovery that's because material excavated during a giant meteorite impact is really preserved on earth due to a being rapidly. Obliterated by erosion burial and plate tectonics. He says it was purely by chance that this one landed in an ancient Rift Valley lay fresh sediment quickly covered the debris, preserving it almost says it must have been quite a spectacle, when the giant meteorite struck the barren landscape spreading Duston rocky debris over wide area mind. You when all this occurred one point two billion years ago. Most life on earth was still in the oceans, and there were no plants on land at that time. What is now Scotland would have been very close to the equator and in a semi arid environment. The landscape would've looked bit like Myers when it had water on its surface. The Gillette will evidence shows that earth and other planets all suffered high rates of meteoroid impacts in the distant past, as they collided with debris. Lift over from the formation of the early solar system. However, ammo points out that doesn't rule out the possibility of similar events happening in the future, especially given the number of asteroids and comet fragments floating around in the solar system. Small impacts way. Meteorites are a few made us across thought to be relatively common the carrying, perhaps, once every twenty five years or so on average. It's thought collisions with objects like this one, which was an estimated kilometer in size, probably occur about once every one hundred thousand years to once every million years benefits vary. The authors say then step will be to undertake a detailed Geological Survey of the tax area. You're listening to space time I'm Stewart Gary. Okay. Let's stick with the asteroid impact thing. We've developed in today show and timeout for a little bit of doomsday. Click bait dangling. At the end of that hook is asteroid two thousand and six key V8. nine, a thirty meter wide chunk of space rock, which has a one in seven thousand nine hundred ninety nine chance of hitting the earth on September. The ninth this year now before if you want to get too excited, it will most likely miss the planet. But astronomers campy one hundred percent sure because it's open it is in precisely known. The asteroid was first elected by the Catalina sky survey on August the twenty ninth two thousand and six but only a short observational run was possible time, still based on that, too jittery data predictions by the European Space Agency, suggest it will most likely miss the earth by at least six point seven million kilometers, a comfortable margin, especially when you consider the by comparison, the moon orbits that an average distance of three hundred. Eighty four thousand four hundred kilometers important thing to remember back. You the eighty nine he said at small just that he made us across the Katie boundary of asteroid, which wiped that seventy five percent of all life on earth, including the non avian dinosaurs. Sixty six million years ago was at least ten kilometers across two thousand six key eighty nine is part of the Apollo group of near-earth asteroids and is thought to likely be a frequent visitor to near space with follow visits expected in twenty thirty to twenty forty five and twenty sixty two in fact out of the ten most likely asteroids, the slam into the earth. This one's Ernie ranked fourth mind you things will be getting a little bit more interesting in the future in less than a decade from the Allen, April, the thirteenth twenty Twenty-nine astronomers will be gearing up for what will be a far close in the midst by what will be a foul large restaurant. That's when ninety nine nine forty two office will pass just thirty one thousand two hundred kilometers above the surface. Give them a take seven. Kilometers, that's closer than many satellites opening the planet now it would hit the during that encounter. But it will be coming awfully close compared to Q V eighty nine apotheosis a monsters, three hundred seventy kilometers wide, and depending on how directs gravitationally with the earth during its twenty Twenty-nine close encounter future, encounters with ought to get even more interesting with a possible collision with earth. Exactly. Seven years later, on April the thirteenth twenty thirty six but there's some good news on that front with new calculations and observations NAS suggesting that twenty thirty six encounter will take place earlier in March, and at a safe distance of over eight point four million kilometers, comfortable, margin, I'm Stewart Gary this space time. Scientists think that most I'm fan on earth. A made from cabin recycled, from the seabed and then cooked up deep inside the planet's mantle. But now scientists have for the first time recreated the salt often found trapped inside these diamonds a case it to confirming the process. The study published in science advances, settles a long standing question about the formation of diamonds diamonds, a crystals of Kaban that formed deep beneath yards crust, in very old parts of the mantle. They brought to the surface through volcanic eruptions in a very special kind of magma code kimberlite, while Jim diamonds are usually made a pure cabin sickled February diamonds, which cloudy enlists appealing to is often include small, traces of potassium, sodium, and other minerals, that reveal information about the environment in which they were formed. These fever was diamonds accompany, ground down, and using technical applications like drill bits, the study's lead, author, Dr Michael foster from MacQuarie university says there's long been a theory that salts trapped inside diamonds. Came from marine seawater. And this research has now demonstrated that the processes that lead to diamond growth is indeed driven by the recycling of Shannon sediments instant Duchesne's owns. He says that will sometimes are created by different process involving the crystallization of melts deep in the mantle most diamonds found another surface of form through the Senate process. The other thing that fibrils diamonds is the grandma quickly Jim diamonds, which allows them the trip tiny samples of the fluids around them as they form foster and colleagues knew that some sort of Saudi fluid must be around while he's diamonds, a growing for this process to occur allowed slab of safe. What would need to slide down to a depth of more than two hundred kilometers below the surface quite quickly? This is a process notice sa-duk Shen in which one tectonic plate slides, underneath, another the rapid descents required because the sediment needs to be compressed than four gigabytes goes, that's forty thousand times atmosphere pressure on the surface before it begins to melt the temperatures of more than eight hundred degrees celsius. Is found in the ancient, mantle in order to test their ID the office carried out a series of high pressure, high temperature experiments. They placed marine sediments apples in the vessel with a rock called paradise tied, which is the most common type of rock found in the Pat of the mat with diamonds foam, they then turned up the pressure and hate giving the samples time to react with one another in conditions. Like those found different parts of the metal the authors found at precious between four and six Giga Pasco's, and at temperatures between eight hundred eleven hundred degrees celsius corresponding to depths of between one hundred twenty one hundred eighty kilometers below the surface salts were formed with a balance of sodium, and potassium, that closely matches the small traces founded diamonds forced to says this demonstrates at the processes that lead to diamond growth Irene day driven by the recycling of oceanic sediments doctrine zones. He says the experiments also resulted in the formation of minerals, which are the necessary ingredients of the formation of kimberlite Magma's, which then transport the diamonds up to the surface. In general. So diamond is made sure carbon, of course, kind of some impurities, but the crista diving compose, Kaban and Kaban is a very common element within the universe else, and carbon inside diamond and come from sufficient, top from the surface that could be from Agana material, that's degrades and funds and refers equipped be from Kabul, Nate's like limestone, covenant producing, and the most and can also come from mental carbon because dementia inside earthly. Also has covenants and other to produce stemming being to have a certain pressure, and that would be at a depth of about one hundred fifty kilometers beneath us the precious high enough. So the common and gets diamond. So it's the stabile crystal farm at that has the common usually get down to those days. So let me think about plate tectonics, so we have the plates, but from the surface and. Some of these plates, they slipping east another place, and then they sleep a new exposes. It's called subduction the plate and dives and things into the mantha, and on its way downwards, it carries the common with it, and this carbon at some stage so that that's enough to transform to diamond and getting back up to the surface. This is where the kimberlite today, come in, isn't it? Yeah. This is. That's of course rail. So kimberlite this kind of Magma's on the surface caught Nava the twins podge, and I'm so the surface, because they would that that's the dime formed. Most other Magma's calm shallow depth and don't have to stimulate here. They carry the diamonds refugees with the stuff and you've been looking at some specific features in diamonds, we know that boron can make some diamonds, look blue. I and there are other chemicals, which make diamonds rather than being clear, crystal clear there. I say, we'll make diamonds Lou pink or yellow or even reddish Brown. And you've been looking at a different type of inclusion. Salts. Tell me about that. Yeah. So already known. But a lot of times, I think most of them, they have these middle Baba's inclusions of felon fluids. And this is interesting that the salt is not the normal flooding quickly on Sunday night in some cases. But mostly the potassium chlorate in which most of the selling and intrusions, and protesting, which, and then, of course, this come from. And in my studies is part of my PHD read, it experiments along subtraction puffing. So we wondered what happens the stuff that comes from the surface it gets into the mentor. What happens does your name and the Saugus within the diamonds stuff on stage of that recited to this publication? That's what the experiment was really about looking at how the salt would have got. Yeah. Me wanted to know. How do we get this potassium in Richmond thoughts, because that was hard to explain because they already thought? Yeah. The, the saw that comes from the top because the plates that go down. Most scenic lakes and in the ocean water not water. But then the thought has some how to get rid of sodium, but increase in potassium to get the composition that you see with diamonds, and that was the crucial part of experiments just seeming. What is happening and said to me about the experiment itself claimed experiments simulated, this is the land experiments. So we had the sediments on in the lower lay this, and experimental container and piece of mental and apart. So this whole container is a platinum capsule about formulas long and often Diomede type slept very big, but it can only be that smart because in order to simulate the high precious inside us, you have to put it into a high pressure up with you on the sofa, and this apparatus, it's like a big metal block was a Selena in the middle that compresses the small caps and normally use these limits to lift heavy trucks. But in the m used the Selena to compress a tiny capsule, them then indicates that you have the pressure that is. Similar to incite us, Ben heated up. Yeah. What's so the pressures and temperatures do you reach as you increase the pressure and temperature of this sort of thing. Yeah. So the was even kept with to go to in right pressures that has similar to about two hundred kilometer up. Not use the surface and temperatures, you can eat them much higher than actually inside out, so you can heat them up to one thousand eight hundred degrees. But when we think about that information and the coda affection, reaching ally experiments, they took place between eight hundred and eleven hundred degree says just between four and six Giga Pascal's. Yeah, that translates to one hundred twenty and one hundred eighty kilometers beneath and what you find. Yeah. So the interesting thing is that, of course, both of this, they immediately is starting to react with each other. And this reaction phone that forms between both of they asked, you can dividing to two different ones shallow depth by there's no time information. We didn't find any thoughts. You just had what we would expect to be gets Mike Hough shiny flaky maneuver and. The takes some of the line and the potassium and sodium. But at higher precious, we didn't get the Micheals anymore. In fact, you got thoughts within the reaction sewn, and they're finding because the source they had the same potassium sodium ratio's like the work lab with the Mike has had at show. Other though, that was good interesting to see that is that related to diamonds and within this reaction phone. We also have the coach phases of diamonds. So we had I had to depression meta stable, but in the person, we're inches will take much longer than our experimental each of to, to fourteen days to put your statement. But we know that that person already known that you would have diamond. So we have all the rhythms the diamonds in the same lab with assaults, and in a natural environment much long time the diamond that grow some tendency with the inclusions they would capsule them in. How does this expand on knowledge on how diamonds geologically enough? Yeah, it's another independent study that shows that most of. That I'm in material that comes from the surface and on some of that I'm in made from mental cabinets and fun stuff. That's with insight of all the time. And we see that the process of subduction is their main drive off diamond formation or the recycling of material input earth produces most of the diamonds, and it's also interesting that we also got the because face, it's only for the diamonds, but also for the Magnus that pop the dimes to the surface, these kimberlites these capability by carbon rich magma envy, got besides the insults, and the carbon regardless of got 'em magnified, which is an important. I'm carbonate that has to be within the suicide. These kimberlites don't we got a whole bunch of ingredients that I'm not to diamonds and Kim alike medicine. That's ten spots into the surface. That's Dr Michael full of from aquarium diversity, and this is space time. I'm Stewart Gary. Space x dragging cargo ship is splashed down safely an hour after firing at thrust. This beginning. Deorbit burn the crew aboard the international space station had used the opening our personal robotic gum to the tax. The dragon Sarah seventeen captured from the station's, how many module five and a half hours earlier robo release commanded but she pension decreasing station. Robos nerves open began monitoring for dripped out city are moving station robo back off in progress. What are the station onto, what are half meters clear, robo copies, although station four and a half meters career. Houston onto dragging departs commended, Houston, copies. I burn is complete. It was a six second, burn, the second of three burns is underway on too few burn and progress, computer, indeed, we concur departure burn to is complete departure burned three will be an approximately seven minutes, continue monitoring per step six of one dot six oh, two and the third in the series of three burns is underway departure burn three is complete dragging is outside the keep out sphere. That it's a beautiful sight, farewell wreck in the spacecraft loaded with some one thousand and twenty nine kilograms of return scientific experiments in quick -ment splashdown safely in the north Pacific Ocean three hundred and twenty kilometres southwest of Long Beach, California. The dragon had launched aboard a falcon nine rocket from space launch complex forty at the Cape Canaveral. If stationed in Florida back on may the fourth carrying some two thousand four hundred ninety five kilograms of supplies and equipment arriving on station, two days later. A Russian Soyuz, this TB, rocket is blasted off from the European space, and she's crew space, putting French Kiana carrying the final, four set lots of the oath three big constellation. Those. This. We've said she's. We are off the next full satellites in the constellation have started their journey from the pad here in the Amazon rainforest, everything is going, according to plan, those full boost is doing all the work right now they holding us away from the gravity of our planet. They burn for a couple of minutes, but that's enough to get us away from the pool of earth. That propulsion is normal nominal means normal thirty seven kilometers above the earth right now and climbing, this is the sheduled moment for the boosters to be jettisoned because it was too, and that's been confirmed. We have separated brewster's, and I can hear the sound of the Sawyer's here now over the mission control center, which is about twenty kilometers from the pad takes a while for the sound to get to us. We're travelling at two point nine thousand nine kilometers per second. Show is he's telling us the launch vaguely stable. We are now a hundred and twenty kilometers above until now. We've been flying through the dense part of the atmosphere, we no longer have friction because we are in space, so we can jettison affairs. And that's now being confirmed. We have jettisoned the faring the four oh, three b satellites at the front attached to that special, dispense, some regime was the fifth for telecommunications come the SEM under its current contract to place twenty of the seven hundred kilogram broadband satellites into an eight thousand kilometer high medium earth orbit. The flight was also The Fourth Way iron space this year, and the second for twenty nine thousand nine using the Russian so is. And that take a look at some of the other stories making news inside this week with the science report, scientists have agreed to designate a new geological APEC the anthroposophic to mock the profound ways in which unions have irrevocably changed the planet. A report in the journal nature claims that decision by the thirty four member and throw passing working group is another key step towards the formal recognition of this new phase in geological record, then we will now be submitted to the international commissions, Tig Raphy, which oversees the official Jila geological time chart, the working group brick admitted the anthra- the scene Abe commenced during the mid twentieth century when geological sediments and glacial ice begin to show, the first significant evidence of human intervention, including the detonation of the first atomic bomb, and significant increases in pollution from industrial production and the use of agricultural chemicals. We've all been told that aiding fermented food and yogurt is good for your gut and scientists think they've finally worked out. Why a report in the journal pluses found that humans and great apes ever set this in their immune cells, which the tech, the by products of lactic acid bacteria, the kind commonly found in yoga and committed foods when sell since these biproduct they trigger immune cells, the spring election, most likely to mediate, beneficial anti-inflammatory effect. It's the receptive may have evolved hope the ancestors of humans, and apes, eight food, which was decaying such as fruit picked up off the ground Canadian researchers have unmasked the major disinformation campaign with links to the Iranian government, which included posing as mainstream media outlets to spread lies targeting the United States, Israel and Saudi Arabia. The university of Toronto citizen lab says the disinflation group line to these lamb Republic impersonated, legitimate meteoroid out. Let's using copycat style. The push their fake news. Propaganda Tehran, finance group, which researchers have dubbed endless may fly used fake online identities to then amplify the stories by tweeting about them thousands of times, and forwarding links to others. Australia's nuclear research, reactor at Lucas heights in Sydney. South is getting a big boost from the New South Wales state government and stir. The strain nuclear technology organization says the multi-million dollar boost will support the facilities innovations precinct and the expansion of the net in deep technology, incubator, the innovation precinct designed to bring together both Australian and international scientists as a students startups and industries. It includes a next generation nuclear medicine class STA focusing on the development of diagnostics and therapies for the treatment of cancer and other diseases. The world of mobile communications is undergoing its biggest evolution in years following the official launch of the five Jeanette, working Austrailia, the country's biggest telco started selling five G compatible cell phones, and highway, then you five technology promises download speeds as much as one point two gigabytes per second. That's more than twenty times faster than anything else on the market and six times faster than the national broadband network. There is one big problem with five G. It's not available every way at least not yet. But within twelve months, the role at should see up to thirty five cities across Australia. Hooked up the find out more, we're joined by Alex Hora from whistle out dot com. Dada you party is the next major. I dilution in network. Technology forty four five t is focused on our daughter and improving our Dada fate and they get a high frequencies now that yes. So five it was being in Australia. Right now of being on what we call some six frequencies, so but radio frequencies under fifty Hertz right now. It's a round frequent five hundred is what's being used by Toshio up those who've already started building their five? Gene networks Gordon food and a few years. Also, the using millimeter wave frequencies started around twenty six gigahertz, and those will be fostered by bible, how this more range impairing five hundred four Jay, what are the advantages fool for you and me is as uses of the new technology now, five days to image infancy, like the quite new, and this is a former kind of guess, comparible four Jay maybe foster the pending on where you have coverage about the with ago, the next couple of months next year's the ideas are five. We can't download states as fosters twenty gigabits per second Bill, how Lowell license which essentially a time to take information to get from your phone to the white, rich and back again. So. Four J networks have a typical latency of around sixty milliseconds, maybe the, if we'd coverage whereas we've millimeter wave five Jaquith, the Loa one second, which is going to write things like self driving cars where every mosaic, and Matt and five G also venture out motorbike, connective network at the same time. So this will help us congestion, but also will really help new developments like what time is caused the scenery and. Things devices when we have more and more connected devices connecting to one it works. This is your refrigerator starts talking to your local grocery store and things like this. Yeah. Exactly. And relying on you'll have mentioned where it quits own sim card, for example, I guess what everyone's going to want to know is products? We know that Samsung come on quickly in the five G Malka. They don't the anyone's about their few five G products out there already and some we're going to have to wait a year for like apple. So Toshio is gone in with five G, and it's currently only provided Kearney filling commercial five sounding dot the ten five. J B, oppor, Rainer, five, G and LG Basti. But if you want five G modem, but also gonna hasty five G hob, which is a portable hot of between devices at once officers also running five G from broadband trials where, but you need to register your interest offices websites, and then we'll get back to you. You if you're in an area where they have capacity. So with something you can just sign up for and get going straight away, the ones who are missing out on the initial burst of five g I guess we'll be apple uses correct? I've always likely to announce off five t iphone until twenty twenty bulk that surprising apple was about a year, elective before Jeep Redmond's. Well, four tends to win until Nordea moment. Sure, Robin just rushing out the second being bused, that's all IX rush from whistle dot com. 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02: Fuzz On An Expanding Bubble?

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02: Fuzz On An Expanding Bubble?

"This is based on series. Twenty two episode two for broadcast on the fourth of January twenty nineteen coming up on space time is Al universe. Just as on an expanding bubble in an extra dimension Nassar given date or access to Israel's upcoming lunar landing mission and UCLA electron rocket blasts off on its third orbital mission all that more coming up on space time. Welcome to space tired. We'd Stewart Gary. Shyness devised the new model for the universe. Which may shelve the enigma of doc. Energy dark energy is a mysterious horse. Cozine acceleration in the expansion of the universe out from the big bang thirteen point eight billion years ago. The new model reported in the journal physical review letters proposes a structural concept for a universe that rides on an expanding bubble in an additional dimension. Astronomers of them for the past twenty years at universities expand the at an ever exhilarating rate. The most popular explanation is that some mysterious force a sort of negative gravity permeates throughout the universe. Pushing it to expand understanding the nature this dog or vacuum images at sometimes called is one of the paramount 'nigma 's of fundamental physics. It's lung vain hope that m theory better known a string theory may provide the answer according to string theory when it's broken down into its. Simplest form all matter consists of tiny strings of energy vibrating at different rates, depending on whether it's a photon and electron aquatic neutrino or whatever, but the string theory to work there also needs to be a lot more than the three spatial and one temple dimension. Currently observed some versions have eleven of twelve some even as much as twenty one or twenty three dishes dimensions that finding evidence for the existence of these dimensions is bidding possible for fifteen years have been modeled in string theory, which have been thought to give rise the duck energy. However, they've all come under increasingly harsh criticism and more and more searches than our serving that none of the models proposed. So far, I really workable this new model by scientists from of Celje versity proposes that our universe is riding on an expanding bubble in an extra dimension. The apothecary is the entire universe is accommodated on the surface of the expanding bubble. The hypothesis suggests that all existing matter in the. Universe. Corresponds to the ends of strings, which are extending out into this extra. Dimension the authors say expanding bubbles of this kind can come into existence within the framework of string theory. And they say it's conceivable that there are other bubbles out there as well corresponding to other universes within the lodge multi verse wall just an idea for now, the upsell scientists muddle does provide a new and different picture of creation future fed value universe while it may also pave the way for new methods of testing string theory. You're listening to space time. I'm Stewart Gary. Nassar signing agreement with these Rayleigh space agency giving it access today together by new Isreaeli. Lunar Lander expected attach down on the moon early that share the six hundred kilogram. Landa developed by his Rayleigh nonprofit group called space. I'll was recently named bear sheet. Hebrew Genesis in a competition. Genesis will be launched aboard. A SpaceX falcon nine rocket now. Sled at the fly on February thirteenth from the Cape Canaveral. Air force station, Florida that mission was supposed to fly back in December. But being delayed by problems with another one of the space x payloads. There's other payloads include the Indonesian Pierce in six telecommunication satellite. Buca spaces Lorella in Palo Alto, California and classified u s government geosynchronous satellite once launched or free space craft will attach from the nine GS synchronous transfer orbit. The Genesis land will then over at the earth in ever expanding ellipses raising. It's all but h lap until it's. Apogee? That's the most distant point from earth Alaska to be captured by the moon's, gravity then begins orbiting the moon instead of the earth before finally landing the overall transfer process taking a bit more than two months. The Landau will touchdown in my racer entertainers, one of the dark blue basins visible from earth between the landing sites for the Apollo fifteen and seventeen missions Genesis will collect high definition images and scientific data from its initial landing site before lifting off again and moving to a second landing site of half a kilometer away as part of the deal. Nestle contribute a laser retro reflector array to aid with ground tracking. And this is deep space network will provide communications support for the mission. In return, these rarely space agency and space, I l will share data with Nasser from the Luna magnetometer installed aboard the spacecraft each which was developed in collaboration with the Weizmann institute who made magnetic field on and above the landing side, the data will then be made publicly available. Manasses punditry data system. Neces- Slough reconnaissance Oba t- still up opening around the moon will attempt to take scientific measurements of the land. Or as touches down on the lunar surface together. Nassar and space. I'll scientists will collaborate analyzing the scientific data returned from the mission. If successful this mission will make Israel only the fourth country on earth after the former Soviet Union the United States and China to undertake a soft controlled landing on the surface of the moon. I'm Stewart, Gary you're listening to space time. And use eland electron rocket is blasted into orbit on its first decanted mission for NASA, the rocket labs. Electron blasted into low of over from its Mahia peninsula launch complex on the far east edge of New Zealand's, violent control as given the gopher flight electronics fueled and ready at launch complex one with electron. Go range go and the weather go, we've also informally pulled the sheep and their go as well engines on. Even six. For relation. Trophy simpson. Have tracking down right? He we've had successful liftoff of rocket labs Alana nineteen mission. This one's for Pickering purchase. The next major milestone, we're coming up to is Mexico or maximum era namic pressure. This is where the forces on the vehicle or at their greatest drain launch standby for the call. Join often is nominal. I've been pedal to coming up next or a series of events that take place in quick succession. These are Meco main engine cutoff followed by stage. One separation stage two engine ignition and then fairing jettison up. Mode. They won mine engine Tuttle staged ocean. Stage two stable and that completes Meco sage one separation second-stage ignition and fairing separation electrons second-stage is now on its way to orbit and listen in for the call that electron orbital at approximately nine minutes into flight designed fifty of our next milestone will be battery hot swap one of the unique features of electron is that our Rutherford engine uses electric pumps these pumps powered by batteries. But once he's batteries, run flat. They're just did wait to overcome. This. We perform a hot swap where we switched from two depleted batteries. Third fully charged one we've been jettison the depleted batteries, and that messy beans allows a more efficient ride to orbit battery Jetson occurring at around t plus seven minutes. Multiple you get sexually we've had successful hot. Swap over a batteries in electron performing nominally just recap. We had success missions stage. One burn and stage separation. And now we're following stage to as it continues to orbit. This burn will continue until around t plus nine minutes. And then our kick stage will separate fuselage to we have about thirty seconds remaining. In the stage to burn electron is following a good trajectory and propulsion is nominal tensions vehicles oval stitched or. Transferral that appears in the little staging that call confirm stage two engine shutdown and kick stage separation. The kick stage is now entering the coast. Phase for around forty minutes before the curious Jin will like night to its orbit and deploy the payloads mission which mocked third will flood for the New Zealand bay spacecraft was carrying thirteen in said lights selected by Nassar's pot of the agency's Alana nineteen keeps at lunch initiative mission. These included the compact radiation built explorer series, which will make a high energy particles in oaths van Allen radiation, belts, the advanced electrical bustle Albus cube set, which is testing U solar arrays in high capacity batteries, the cube sale, which is the plumbing and testing a solar sail. Blade the Mt. Set which studying magnetic field and high altitude plasma density and this asset which is acute set with robotic downs. Then there's the honest for civilization, explorer or is six which he studying plasma fluctuate. In the upper atmosphere. I think you've set pilot testing radiation, shielding navigation systems new space software systems, and is that Vinci satellite, which is loaded with experiments developed by school kids. The flight was controlled from rocket lab's mission control center in Auckland with a company also built its electron launch vehicles. The electron is a seventeen Mehta toll to stage Coppin compassi rocket designed to carry small payloads up to twenty five kilograms into low with all of it. The first stage of the electron is powered by nine electric pump. It three d printed? Rutherford rocket engines fueled by Oppy one kerosene and liquid oxygen. Propellant? The second uses a single Rutherford engine optimized for vacuum operations. This mission. Also included a third stage a curry kick Moda designed to deploy satellites into the correct orbits with a success of its third overall mission rocket labs manifest now expected to say regular launches every few weeks spiking the need for a second. Complex which would be established at Nasr's well som- flat facility on the Virginian. Mid Atlantic coast. And Tom editon allies to the skies. And check out the celestial faith in January on sky, watch January, of course, is the first month of the year in Beth, Jillian angering calendars the name originates in the Latin word for door because January's the door to the new year and the opening tenue beginnings. Interestingly the month is conventionally thought of as being named of the Janus mythological room and God of beginnings and transitions that according to ancient Roman and finds almanacs it was actually Juno who was the traditional. God of January eight the Jinnah is celebrated in June. Okay. Let's start out celestial sky watch too and looking to the northeast with the brightest star in the night sky, Sirius the dog star sick because it's also the brightest star in the constellation Kansas. Major the big dog the name serious, actually main scorching brilliant, clear reference to the spectacular brightness of the star in the sky as well as being one of the nearest stuff to the sun. At just eight point six is serious. He's also intrinsically bright twenty five times brighter than the sun. By the way, a lie is about ten trillion kilometres that isn't Sopher Tonkin travel in an earthier at three hundred thousand kilometers per second. The speed of light in vacuum and the ultimate speed limit of the universe. Now looking to the north of serious, but staying to the east of the constellation Orion, which dominates the sky this time of year, you'll see the broad stop proceed on the constellation Kenneth Mina the little dog now. Well that looks like a single stuff from viewpoint here on earth. It's actually a binary star system. Comprising Specht type main sequence Whitestone. On and faint, what will companion presume be located about eleven point four six light years away. Proceed on a has about one and a half times the mass and twice the radius of the sun. It also about seven times the sun's luminosity making. It unusually bright for star of its time. And that suggests that it's starting to move off what we call. The main sequence wished us if using hydrogen and helium in they Cho's and all that means it's about to expand into a sub giant as nuclear burning moves further out from the Coa as it continues to expand the style will eventually swill to between eighty one hundred fifty times its count diameter in the process becoming other an orange or red giant. This will probably happen. Some time within the next ten to one hundred million years the two styles pros you on a and b over each other every forty point eight two earth years at an average distance of bet. Fifteen astronaut Michael units, an astronaut cool unit the average distance between the earth and the sun, which is about one hundred fifty. Kilometers or eight point three light minutes. Okay. Let's look to north now just above the horizon. This time of year and you'll find the bright yellow which stock Pilla located some forty two point nine light years away. Capella is the brightest star in the constellation regia. The chariot Tia Capella is the Latin name for small female good. The Stein's will tentative name is Capra which was more commonly used during classical times vote. A piece is a single stunt. The animated I kept pillow Capra is actually a system of four stars into binary pays the first pay comprises too bright yellow giants birth which around two and a half times the mass of the sun having exhausted. They call hydrogen fuel supplies birth starts now cooled and expand become giants. Moving off the main sequence designated cappella AA cappella Ray, be there in a very tight circular orbit zero point seven six astronomical units. Apart opening every one hundred and four. Worth days. Capella, a as the cool remorse luminous of the two with some seventy eight times, the luminosity and twelve times the radius of the sun known as an aging red clump Stor Capello as fusing helium into carbon oxygen in its core. As Capella Ray, be will. It's a slightly smaller and hotter sub jarred with about seventy three times the luminosity and almost nine times the radius of our sun. It's now in the process of expanding to become a red giant thick a pillow system is one of the brightest sources of x rays in the sky thought, the come primarily of the corner of the more massive giant the second pair of stars in Capella located about ten thousand genomic units away from the first pair, they consist of two faint small and relatively cool. Spectral type m main sequence red dwarf stars that been designated Capello H and cappella L almost directly overhead this time of year in celestial position zenith, we find notice the. Second brighter star in the night sky after serious can notice is located some three hundred ten light is away in the constellation Carina. The keel Canopus is a core helium burning giant no longer on the main sequence it has about eight times the mesh seventy one times the radius and some ten thousand times the luminosity of our son kanobi is also a bright source of x rays, which are probably produced by its corona magnetically hated to several million Kihlman the temperatures likely being stimulated by fast rotation combined with strong conviction. Picula ding up through this is outta layers nurse start closer than Canova's to our solar system is more luminous than it. Infected spin the brightest iron earth night sky during three separate parts of the past four million years. Other styles appear brighter only during relatively temporary periods during which they passing the solar system much closer distance than can opus. In fact, it was only about ninety thousand years ago that serious move close enough to overtake opus. To become the brightest star, not sky, a place it'll retain for another two hundred and ten thousand years, but in some four hundred eighty thousand years from now Canova's will once again be the brightest star night skies, and it will remain so for a period of at least five hundred ten thousand years as for the name can opus will it's generally considered to originate. From the mythical connotes was the navigator familias the king of Sparta Canopus forms part of the store association. Astrum known as the false cross which straddles the constellation Carina, the keel and veal of a sales, and he's often confused with the real Southern Cross cracks January plays host to one prime Meteo shower. The quadrant. Ids must meet showers. Ready at out from recognizable constellations likely as Leonids. Jim Jim minutes and arrives Ryan's but the quadrant ads. In media is that appear to radiate out from the location of the full McCaw drains. Morillas constellation you see in the early nineteen twenty s the international astronaut. Union divided the sky into eighty eight official constellations, however that meant more than thirty other historical constellations didn't make the cat. The quadrants morale area of the sky is within the boundaries of the Fisher constellation booties. The radiant point for the show is near the big Dipper between the end of the handle and the quadrilateral stas mocking the head of the constellation Drako, the quadrant. It's usually one of these most tackler Meteo shouts without the eighty meteors an hour they based saying from the northern hemisphere, but unlike other Meteo showers, which tend to pay for night or to the quadrants only pick for a couple of hours also will most meteor showers produced by the earth passing through the breed trails left behind by comets, the quadrants one of just two Meteo showers produced by asteroids, they're associated with the asteroid two thousand and three h one which is thought to be the remains of cometary nucleus, which fragmented and broke a Pat centuries ago. He H one still circles the sun in the five and a half earthy long. Elongated comet like orbit which extends out beyond Jupiter. The progenitor is thought it'd been the comet c fourteen ninety y one which was observed by Chinese Japanese in Korean astronomers five hundred years ago, it was classified as an asteroid when it was the scuppered by near-earth asteroid telescopic survey in two thousand three by the way, the only other media shower associated with an asteroid is the gym nudes which occurred last month in December, and which caused by debris from the asteroid thirty two hundred fate on which is also thought to be the remains of comet Junius now for the rest of out tour of the January night skies is Jonathan Nellie the editor of a strain sky telescope magazine. Well, we'll begin as is not Scott stuff with the evening sky, which is win must be around having look and the first constellation will go for as usual is the Southern Cross 'cause it's the one everyone wants to see, of course, at the moment. This time of the year in mid evening. It's still more or less upside down low down in the south, in fact, if you're sort of more north. And let you seed knee or any equivalent latitude and other countries in the southern hemisphere Southern Cross probably you won't be able to see it mid-evening lowdown the south 'cause probably be hidden by buildings or trees or over things. But if you leave it little bit longer in the night, and the youth will have turned and the Southern Cross will sort of property hit up above the horizon in the south, south eastern. It'll be lying on its left hand side and the Southern Cross. Remember, it doesn't look like a plus in bullet doesn't mean across like that means like a crucifix or kite shaped. So imagine a kite shaped group of stars, and it'll be lying on its side. So the left hand side and this five south south east so heavily for that. Everyone loves the Southern Cross. It's really amazing. I should it's the smallest constellation in the sky. It has some of the brightest is in this guy and really stands at once you spot. So the Milky Way which is how galaxy seemed from the inside is stretching right across the sky in from south to north and it's stuff Heald's contain some really, great constellations and they've sky objects. Astronomers call them starting in the south. We start at the Southern Cross which is in the Milky Way. And then Knicks to it is the constellation Carina. And then you get the constellation Bela and Thomas than kindness major, and we end up all the way in the north with constellations or Ryan, Jim and on tourists, which are really great constellations have a look at this all sorts of stock classes, and maybe Lee and things in there. You can see just with a pair of Oculus. If you go to pair of Oculus scan around that part of the sky Nazi great stuff to see. And of course, for us down here in the southern hemisphere. It's the best time of year because we've got these magnificent installations up there, and it's summertime. So it's easy to go out and have a look 'cause to benefit rug up so much as you do during winter so more or less directly north at this time of the year is a tiny sump of stars new towers, and it's cool to please or the seven sisters. Now, he's spoken about this before it's a group around a thousand stars one long wife move, but to the naked eye under doc size. You can see about six or seven of them. That's what I call it. The seven sisters some people have claimed to be able to see ten or eleven people with really good eyesight. If you have a pair of Oculus get it onto the. Lead stocks because you see more than six or seven stars. And it's important might add when you looking through binoculars telescopes make sure your eyes are justed to the the night sky. Don't go out to the strike from inside with all the lights on at to the backyard, and then expect to see lots of stuff even through Tillis going over your eyes. It'd be the custom for life. You've gotta get yourself documented. So give yourself twenty minutes or so just staring around in the dock sky. Don't stand under a straight lot or something like that. So that because the same problem the sofa and lutts too bright cube, right ordinary torches. Flashlights wide mine. Try and get away from his much source of light as you can if you do need to have a lot to see by. So you can see where you're going to try and get a red light. It's got rid color instead and steam as you can possibly make it. So you can even just get an ordinary torch flashlight and put some red cellophane over the front of it. Few lies of it. It's not the best. But it's good enough protection night vision. And that means you see a lot lot more turning to the planet. The only one visible to the naked eye in the evening at the moment is MAs which refined in the northwestern part of the sky after sunset if you're not sure which was west that's where the sunset so just watch where the sun goes down. Once he gets doc enough. You'll see this orange red medium brightness star inverted commerce, and this is the planet Mars, which of course, is a friend of having trouble funding, which dot of light. It is just white into January twelfth because the moon will be very close to MAs on that night. So if you go out and spoke, the moon on January twelve you'll see very close. Two is a orangey red star anybody choose the planet Mars really in the morning. There are few plans to see during January mercury which is the most planet is very love. I mean, really really low on the eastern horizon probably impossible to save for most people because as before you might have buildings or hills trainings in the way, so sort of getting victory for the moment, but based place of Ewing, Venus and Jupiter. Both of them are very very bright planets, Venus is the broader of the two and it's higher in the sky than Jeeva. So get out about five o'clock in the morning before the sun comes up. You'll see these two bright lights out in the east and the one above brighter is Venus one down below a little bit is Jupiter and later in the month as Venus and Jupiter position changes in the sky as they going around in new all, but some we hang around and our rule, but this sort of angles change later in the month. You see them side by side on the twenty second of January. So if you get a chance to get up early on that morning twenty-second have look it should really really speaking. These two bright lights out. In the east and finally the the other major planets visible to the naked. I sat and is out of sight for most of the month. But it will pop its head up over the eastern horizon before Dolan in the last week of January. So if you see a medium brought in a slightly yellowish looking star, but it's really a planet coming up over the horizon, five o'clock in the morning last week January that'll be satin. I didn't get higher and higher in the sky as the weeks and months pass and you'll get much bit of us things going on. It's Jim finale, the editor of a strain sky till let's go magazine. And this is space time. I'm Stewart Gary. And time now to take a brief look at some of the other stories making Uson science this week with a science report. And you study shows plant growth is increased across the world of the last thirty years in part because of the expansion of agriculture and also pilot Judah rising CO two levels caused by the use of fossil fuels a report in the journal nature. Ecology Nivea Lucien claims plant growth has increased consistently between nine hundred eighty two and two thousand eleven and that around sixty five percent of that change could be explained by three factors. Expanding. Crop lands rising CO two levels and intensifying nitrogen deposition. But before getting too excited, the plants may help save humanity from climate change. The researchers say the expanding agriculture is also causing a loss of soil carbon. And that is further increasing carbon emissions. Oh, it's making things worse. European researchers have reconstructed a virtual free dimensional in the NFL forex based on the most complete skeleton of the hominem ever found the findings reported in the journal nature communications suggest the thorax of the NFL's was similar in size to that among humans, but it had a very different shape making it likely that they breathe differently from HAMAs. Sapiens side is found the lowest section of the NFL slow Rex was wider, meaning that could breathe more deeply and taking more air than modern humans. And you study claims the red Brown and blue green pigments in birds aches, I evolved when our feathered friends was still Donoso's a report in the journal nature analyze fossilized eggshells from all the major dinosaur groups, scientists found preserved pigments in spotted and speak with patterns of the show of dinosaurs bowing to the group that includes modern birds. Meanwhile, the eggs of dinosaur groups that will list closely associated to modern birds, including triceratops in the plot is didn't contain any pigments. And so would have been rather plain. Life is the active herbicidal ingredient widely used in weedkillers like roundup is being discovering common. Brands of dog and cat foods. 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Advocates, authors and Amazing Racers: Meet Unreserved's Class of 2019

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Advocates, authors and Amazing Racers: Meet Unreserved's Class of 2019

"This is a CBC podcast. Don Say a Nin Buju. Hello and welcome. This is unreserved on. CBC Radio One. I'm Rosanna dear. Child as the year comes to an end we thought we take a look back at all. The success indigenous peoples had cross Turtle Island from winning the amazing race. We won the amazing arrays. Got Enough to winning an election done love and support has been my goodness outstanding. It's crazy we share just a few of the indigenous artists politicians writers and musicians who had a big year today on unreserved. The class of two thousand nineteen and to say author. Cherie Demo Line had a big year in two thousand. Nineteen is a bit of an understatement. Her Book Camaro thieves was a phenomenal success and is being turned into a TV series. It won a bunch of awards accolades including the Governor General's literary Gary Award for Young People's literature and the Kirk is price for young readers literature. Her new adult novel empire of wild is the first title in a four book. DEAL WITH RANDOM HOUSE IN IT. Joan is a Matey woman searching for her husband. Victor who vanished from their fictional village of our canned after their first serious fight almost a year later. Joan Finds Victor but he doesn't recognize her. And he's now known as the Jesus loving loving reverend Eugene Wolf breaching in a Walmart parking lot. That's when things get a little supernatural. Cherie joins me from Vancouver over. Hello my friend. Hires Anna how are you. I'm groovy how are you. I'm pretty good. You're the groovy now your your new book your new novel centers around the Rue Guru being from the mateen culture. who or what is the rue grew So the regrow. I used to think he was just for my community. He in my community. He's a large black dog. That stands and walks and dances is like a man. He's kind of swamp he's hilarious but he's also incredibly vicious so he in my community guarded the road that I used to take us into town because the old women didn't want us going into town it wasn't safe rest as indigenous women and girls So we would they would tell us stories. You know the rigorous on the road. So you probably don't WanNa go out tonight And we wouldn't we would be terrified I used to think it was just a really mean trick like the stories stories. used to scare me silly like literally and they would tell them to me at night. So I'm like great. I'll just you know pee in my bed because I'm not getting up to to go to the washroom. This is horrible and every story that I heard that I thought might have just been like the Ruger justice scary story or you know just gossip that migrate Aunties. These were telling while they were playing EUCHRE. It was actually the stories of where we had come from from German island from the Red River from down in Wisconsin. Some of my grandmother's monogamy. So they we're giving me all of this history and all of these understandings of how to navigate the World Azam. Et Woman. That you know at the time I took it for granted but I see now like like I was just the luckiest kid ever then. When I got older and I started talking to other people and traveling a bit I realized that he was also a creature in other people's those communities I knew I was talking to Maryland? Dumont poet extraordinaire And she had stories about the RU grew. And I've I've heard that in some communities he's more of a a wolf and sometimes he presents more as a man than an animal but For us he was just. He was a cautionary tale and he was also a cautionary tale l.. For people who identify as male in the community. So if you did something really wrong which usually meant not listening to a woman You could turn into to the rigorous. Yeah and why did you choose to tell the rigorous story at this time. Okay so the origin story is this. I grew up with the stories. This is the Real T. Rosanna because it's you give it to you. Yeah I could give you a literary but no that would be that would be yes. Here's the reality. So a couple of years ago I was asked to go to Rama first. I nation to do to be part of a an indigenous writers gathering. And what am I just love her. When my best best best writer friends Tracy Tracy Lindbergh was there. And if you know Tracy. She's quite an eloquent speaker. Tracy's there my anti Lee miracle is there and Liz Howard Howard who had just won the Griffin Prize. So I thought I must have missed read the information and I thought we were going to do a panel. So it's a panel so I'm ready to talk. I love of these women. Let's let's let's chat and it turns out we're all supposed to stand up and talk for fifteen minutes and I'm in the middle so tracy goes and she's brilliant and I'm like Oh my God I have nothing prepared. I have nothing prepared so I could get up to the podium and I look out and of course it's on the Rez. So it's full of these beautiful kids and we're talking about the importance of story and what they do for our communities and I'm like I have nothing so I'm just going to tell a story story. So the first thing that popped into my mind was a rigorous story so I stood there and I told Ruger story as if that's what I had intended to do and when it was done tracy leaned over to me and she said you have to write that story and it was the first time I really thought about but putting him on the page because to me. It's just you know it's like it's like a cousin. You can't get rid of it something you grow up with and it's just there And then the wheels started started turning. So that's really how I decided to write about him. It wasn't any sort of eloquent way. It was just me having nothing to say and then beautiful Tracy Lindburg saying put him on the page. I find that empty space is often filled themselves with yes. Absolutely speaking about May maty history It's it's it's peppered throughout the book Strong not perspective in the book this particular disconnection from the land Uh for example. Why did you feel that was important to include in the story so for us our community? It's now cottage country. It it it beautiful you too full. It's I mean the the name of the town is penetrate anguishing which is a niche Nabi. Mohan for land of the rolling White Sand. It's gorgeous unfortunately it's pretty close close to Toronto so it very quickly attracted people who have the kind of money to be able to buy waterfront property and the kind of influence fluence to move An indigenous community out of the way so for me because that community already been moved. We left the Red River. We were kicked off to Drummond Island and now we were being moved from the waterfront in. That happened in my lifetime. land is who we are informs everything about how we live but it's so impermanent in our lives it shifts and so we have to find ways to carry home with us so the way that my grandmother either and her sisters gave me a permanent home was by embedding it in the stories and so I I realized that if I don't give my children and the children children in my community home within the stories if we allow that to slip away if we allow people into the community that you know say there may eighty or tell our stories and they changed the narrative the do this very harmful thing of making our children homeless and I refuse to allow the children learn to be homeless so it becomes imperative for me and the stories to make sure that I always keep that in mind and it doesn't really matter what I'm writing I always recognize that because of our are unique Trauma which which is not really unique for indigenous people But because of the specificity of that land and and you know how we were moved moved That it is my job to ensure that in every story. There's a place for our community to live. You do this. Brilliant thing where you wrap these ideas Aziz issues. I hate to call them issues. Because they're our lives you know you talk about the disconnection from land in a rooster. You talk about colonization and residential all schools and assimilation. In in in your first novel the marrow thieves these really tough subjects Is that intentional. Do you know that you're doing now when you're doing it and you're like ha ha Canada you're gonNA learn something tedious. You're learning something ackley. You think you're playing euchre much as well so I have to say. My first audience is always US my first readers when I think about who I want to read this book like the Marrow Thieves was was a love letter to indigenous youth specifically. It was a love letter to to spirited indigenous youth. We need those kids as a global community. We cannot move forward without them and we're losing too many of them so they absolutely where my I intended on. It's their book is for them so You know as it moves into a TV series it's their TV series. It's all about them With Empire fire it was it was a celebration of the women in our community. We were We continue to live But also read and hear about so much trauma the the trauma of being an indigenous woman. I desperately for a moment wanted to talk about the heaviest weight the heaviest burden that we carry. And that's of course the weight of the love that we carry Um and so I wanted for a moment to just push aside a bit of of of the of the trauma and the violence to celebrate the joy of being an indigenous Ernest woman. How beautiful it is to live in that space And so that's always my first intention is to to give a story for us and then secondary very to that there. Is that part where I'm like you going to learn something today. Canada so for the people that you know this sort of the second readers I try and and eliminate that but I always try to do it in a way you know I wanNa talk about residential school and I WanNa talk about assimilation and I wanNA talk about like in Empire WanNa talk about what happens when the church rich displaces people from the land and how that leaves us vulnerable to resource extraction. I WanNa talk about those issues but I want to do it in a way that surrounded by our humor and those those moments of joy so that I'm never leaving or abandoning those first readers. I'm not abandoning the indigenous audience. That I wrote the book for by by piling on so much heavy that we can't stop for a moment and laugh interesting. That's beautiful so cherie. When Indigo chose Empire as the top book? Book of Two Thousand and Nineteen for heaven's sake hadn't even read it yet. What did you think what does that feel like? I was absolutely shocked to be honest. I'm like AH did. They read the book. I mean it pretty much calls out all of Canada. And it's and it's the same thing happened with the marrow thieves. I wrote a book that was so specifically specifically from our world view that had an indigenous core everything about the way people. My favorite thing is when I go into communities and or cities and and I run into like other niches in there like I I love I could hear myself when they talk when they top and they spoke. And I'm like wow that's the best compliment. So so I'm I'm always shocked when sort of this mainstream success because I'm like wow okay GR- that's great. Did you get that joke. I don't know so so I was really really shocked. I was very honored because I know that those that list is chosen by the staff who read all of the books so it wasn't sort of a like a lottery artery process or a publisher issue. It was the the actual readers who chose it. I was also really happy when the full list came out because my cousin Jesse Thistle missile is the number three book with from the ashes. His book empire was number. One so Margaret Atwood is like basically the spam in our in our spam spam sandwich at number two. You're the panic and so it was perfect in my mind. Thanks uh-huh Cherie always a pleasure to speak with you Roseanne I'm so happy to speak with you. We look forward to seeing what twenty twenty is going to bring me to you. Thank you so much Shinkyo. Cherie Demo lines latest book empire of wild landed the number one spot spaw on into goes top fifty bucks. Twenty nineteen is unreserved on. CBC Radio One Sirius Xm one sixty nine and native voice one. I'm Rosanna dear. Child Anthony Johnson and James macos may have won the amazing race Canada this year but just as important to them was is representing indigenous people on a national stage as they supported their communities causes awareness for missing and murdered indigenous women and girls clean drinking drinking water. They felt the support right back and when they stepped on that final Matt it felt like indigenous communities and their ancestors were standing right beside them so being on the Mat and and winning was a win for them it was a win for many people across the country. Many indigenous people more on that coming up on unreserved the A missing child a bomb disguised as a Christmas gift. A civil rights era clan murderer brought to justice. Join David region. Is he in victims. FAMILY MEMBERS TRACK DOWN LEADS SPEAK TO SUSPECTS and search for answers in the. CBC's hit cold-case. podcast I someone knows something subscribed to S. K. S.. Wherever you get your podcasts? This is unreserved reserved on. CBC Radio One Sirius Xm one sixty nine in native voice one. I'm Rosanna dear. Child celebrating the class of two thousand and nineteen and highlighting some some of the indigenous newsmakers of the past year. One of them end EP. MP Moolah CACAK was new to the national stage when she was elected in October but locally. She's known for being an outspoken advocate for youth suicide in the north. She won the confidence of voters in nunavut beating out former conservative. M P Leeann AVOCA in the election. Since her victory. She's been asked a lot of the same questions. How does it feel to be the voice of nunavut food or to be one of the youngest? MP's at twenty five or a young woman in parliament but CACAK is just eager to get to work to me. This isn't about me everything has been about me since I've gone elected and it reminds me of When I spoke in the House of Commons in two thousand seventeen not daughters of the vote? Equal voice where everything was about me and that wasn't what the message I was trying to really. I talked about the suicide crisis that we face where are are are non indigenous allies where our leaders would support an ability to make change. And I got so much feedback about how brave and courageous I wasn't that wasn't the message I was trying to deliver. I was trying to effectively communicate that we have been asking for help and we need it and this is a Vo everyone but me this is is about everyone in my territory. This is about everyone in communities this is about everyone who has lost someone close to them. This isn't just my my heart. This isn't just my reality. This is the reality of thousands of people in our territory. I've been finding a similar feeling. I'm getting elected then. Love and support has been my goodness outstanding and it's come from cross the nation. It's come a little bit internationally nationally to like it's it's It's crazy but I'm ready to work and this isn't about me. Standing in the House of Commons silence is about me trying to effectively communicate the needs of individuals in the territory and to be able to help everyone one sixth seed and progressed. We need support. That's what this is about to me. This isn't about me. Being brave and courageous young. Her goals goals might seem lofty to some but to cock the solutions to the issues nunavut is facing or simple. That's because she understands what it takes seeks to fix them. The federal government has known for a long time that we do have the highest suicide rate in the country. At times we've had it the highest in the world. The federal government knows that we face lack of housing facing food insecurity. Face high living costs. So why don't we see the change that we should is it. Not High on the priority list that none of a meal and deserve clean drinking water deserve a place to live deserve to eat like what is the barrier. What is stopping that from from happening? And I'm not sure. Maybe it's a lack of communication. Maybe it's a lack of awareness ernest. Maybe it's not having somebody in the House of Commons. That can talk about the realities as I can. which is one of my favorite one of my favorite things about being part out of the new Democrat? Party is that I can and that jug has. He's been amazing and is aware that there are so many injustices that have have still not been addressed. So I think a fresh voice of reality maybe and Just that's the federal government that not enough has been happening when in reality the solution sound pretty simple to me. We need housing. We need to lower food costs. We need to allow people to drink clean water and be able to live comfortably with a roof over their head. Age Isn't anything but a number two CACAK but she's happy happy to be an inspiration to young any wheat. She's hopeful that young people see themselves in her success and that they understand that they can be successful to too often times your biggest critic and sometimes you're your biggest barrier is yourself And self doubt and like Nick. You can't do it or you don't have enough experience or you're too young things that make you feel challenged a little bit nervous a little bit uncomfortable. That's that's totally fine. That's so that just means you're learning and I tried to be as involved as I can. With Northern Youth. Abroad like I facilitated This year and I know all those youth that participated in the program and it's simple learning how to believe in yourself and it's respecting back to that it's a process and it doesn't just come all at once but there's always different ways to the expanding those those skills Gills and grabbing opportunities even if you're nervous about it that's fine that just means you're you're doing something good that was universe N. P. Malaka Doc. caulk thanks to. CBC North's trail breaker for that tape. This is unreserved on. CBC Radio One Sirius Xm one sixty nine and native voice one. I'm Rosanna dear. Child talking today about the class of two thousand and nineteen indigenous people. Who've you've made waves across turtle island this year James Mkhatshwa's and Anthony Johnson one amazing race Canada? This here and one over all of of our hearts do the two spirit couple from Edmonton used their time. On the race to highlight important topics like missing and murdered indigenous women and girls the importance of water and even a gender neutral fanny pack for them. The race was mostly about representing indigenous people. In a good way winning winning it. All was just a bonus. They stopped by our studios shortly after the finale to talk about that representation especially in language James. Should we show the big news. Should we share too big accomplishment. A I don't know we won the amazing race Canada. Our team name is T.. Maga may muck which refers to many people not giving giving up and Persevering and continuing in the face of adversity. Any challenge at any cost where you think. You're you're not going to be able to go through it. I'll go may Ma is a singular you would refer to one person Aga may muck is referring to many people bowl and for me in particular This was so important because when I was in medical school and university because I was in school for thirteen years and it got really tough because of you know Just the academic rigor of things or you know working a thirty six six hours thirty to thirty six hours shift as a resident physician or experiencing racism or You know being told that I'm not gonNA succeed or that. You know different things like that that come up as barriers and challenges and we wanted to give up that my family would bring us home. You know even if it was for a weekend and a range Ceremony for us whether that was my thoughts on my the inquiry means to cry Zahn is the crying lodge or the sweat lodge. We go to help ourselves be connected with G Cowan Os ski mother Earth. It's like a womb to be connected with that again and there's many teachings in that but They would arrange for that in our elders and we'd go home they'd be like Aga maymo Origami mcnaughton. Don't give up my grandchild and they they would be so encouraging for for me my sister sister and so being on the Mat and and winning it was a win for them and it was a win for many people across the country many digits people and it was a win for my grandparents had grandmothers. Cook and whistles who have taught me many things about how to be a good a good person who are no longer with us and so that's why it was so significant because it represented embody many experiences for many people but Anthony actually came up with the name. Yeah so some people know that we got married during marathon and James Loves Iran. He's done like sixteen or seventeen marathon. That was my first and but I'm not like you know it's like what. Are you going to do this Saturday like you will never hear me. I'm going for a run like it's not a thing that I want to do. I'd have to do it to maintain contain health. But I was out running one day and I came back. He's like you went for a run and I was like yes. Yes I went for and there was this point in the run where I wanted to to give up and we had been talking about our name. We knew we were going to be on the show and we were like what what would be what significant like what what would makes sense and during that run I came back and I was like I know what our team name isn't as team August. Because I didn't want to give up. I went for the training started for the race months before like I was like we have to get ready. I WANNA run. I don't want to let my husband down so I was out riding. The cool thing about is that it's easy to say a it's a fun word but this word and this phrase and this idea exists in many languages and so the beauty of Our Name and this is the first place we're sharing is that T- muggy Isn't Anthony and James Team as every person out in the world who doesn't WanNa give up and who wants to keep going so so it could be like team wet day and Spanish like that strength that drive like team team get her to give her giver team Giver in Singlish. Like this idea that we refuse to give up because we believe and we have strength and were worthy. And we won't stop because why I should we. There were so many people that were holding us up on their shoulders who were with us in spirit. who were running beside aside us and we could feel them doing that like all of the people? I was thinking this morning. You know who might have attended residential schools in or different things like that and who didn't have the opportunity to experience amazing things and do whatever they wanted and have the freedom and liberation to live their lives. Life's in a way that they were meant to buy crater because of federal policy that or who couldn't even run away from residential schools are who tried to run away like my grandfather when he he was five Who ran about one hundred fifty kilometers as a five year old from Edmonton to where we were that we were doing it for all of them and it felt so good and so many people have supported us along the way in various capacities and We embodied DOC FOR THEM WE EMBODIED AGA MAY MC. Don't give up which is something that our elders always told us when things got hard and it was important to have that in our our team name. Yeah and you know. I'm excited that I get to share this this particular in this place because you know you see them out to the Mat Matt and the physical sensation is elation and what that feels like as if you think about the shape of a lightning bolt like a zigzag shape there's multiple multiple of those verb rating. Your body like pushing you up. And you feel the sense of joy and elation like that's what it is you're on cloud nine and then your minds clear and then there was a point where I looked at our other racers. I May I contact with art. The and sisters and I saw tears. And you'll see on this show that the Matt was sat behind the backdrop of this beautiful lake and suddenly that energy settled within my body. Push push out through my fee and kind of spread out among the earth where we were at and the only thing to do in. That moment was to respect. Respect the people who helped guide our path to that place and the ability to be connected to that energy the ability to you understand what that feels like and the ability for me to express that now is one hundred percent. The result of speaking are indigenous languages ages because the process of indigenous languages. The thing that creates inside your mind is a connection to energy and space and in people and time and water elements and animals and plants in a way that other languages. Don't do that so this year at the United Nations it's the International Year of indigenous languages. And we thought it was very fitting to have our own name be from an indigenous indigenous language to represent that first and foremost because of the importance of that to our people but also to encourage non-indigenous people to also learn indigenous languages. Because the are there the original languages of this continent English and French are second to that. And what ever ever territory that you live in. You should be able to communicate in a greeting or in a way that is respectful tactful of the original people of that particular area because that is their territory that they never gave up. We agreed to share this territory in Treaty and as a good treaty partner. You should learn the languages of the people that live there as well. Yeah and one thing about that is. It's been really interesting to see. You know our seller friends or some people become woke settlers. Invokes a picture of a pilgrim but big. I'm awake we love. Bob Woke settlers. But it's fun to hear them. Say One of the things that I see as sometimes there's a fear or there's a reputation like I don't WanNA use your language because it's not mine and we've taken so much and the thing is using someone's languages it's an extension into their heart and say I want to acknowledge you in a way that significant and meaningful to you and please please. Please try and say something because it's a connection. It's an olive branch. It's a bridge towards being together other but the cool thing is that many people already say many indigenous words that they don't even realize And so that's the cool thing about them. Because many places across Orland are from Indigenous Languages Guy Notch gay which means to describe a clean place is how some people interpret how the word candidate came but also it can be described as a village in another indigenous languages in the eastern part of this country or Manitoba is from Manitou a bit where Creator later sat and there's a very symbolic place in that area. Which is the center of this land? Which is where treaty one comes from which is why treaty wants stems there because it needed needed to be there which is in our teachings about that then next to that is the Scotch one which is from the schedule on which is the fast flowing river or waters which originate eight in the glaciers? US Anyway. The mountains were the glaciers are from. which were we say? The thunderbirds are from and importance of that. And so there's many different different places. Even if it's Chicago is a coke which is from cree describes the smelly place like a skunk was built on a swamp or Mississippi Mississippi the big waters which describes the that river and so there's many different places across the land and that just that tells people that indigenous people just didn't live on a reserve IRV. We're not supposed to live on reserves or so solicitor territory and have access to those. That was Anthony Johnson and James Makoko at two thousand nineteen winners of the Amazing Race Canada. This is unreserved on. CBC Radio One Sirius Xm one sixty nine and native voice one. I'm Rosanna dear. Child for more than twenty five years Cindy blackstock has been fighting waiting for the equity of first nations may T- in any way children and this year was no exception in September. The Canadian Human Rights Tribunal ordered the Canadian government to pay forty thousand dollars every first nations child affected by the on reserve child welfare system since two thousand six and while the government continues to appeal that order blackstock is right at the front lines of that fight. The get San trail breaker who heads up the first nations child and and Family Caring Society sat down with his earlier this year to chat about her. Life's work and she shared a particular story about a very special boy whose legacy he has shaped the lives of many first nation kids across the country. It's the story of Jordan River Anderson. You know here's a little boy. Born to Ernest Anderson from Norway hosts cremation and his mom. Virginia Ballantyne Anderson Mom was originally from Peter Ballantine first nation but living with her husband up at Norway House Jordan was born in Nineteen Ninety Nine on October twenty second and he had some complex medical needs so he had to stay in hospital for the first two years of his life. But finally you know the family and community had worked with doctors and they had come up with a plan where Jordan would be an a medically trained foster home close to the hospital just to see if he could stabilize outside of the hospital. ospel but still have access to the medical treatment he needed and then when he stabilize there he was going to go back home to Norway House. Lin's family if he was non-indigenous yes he would have done that. Because the province Manitoba would have picked up the bill but because he was first nations Manitoba said well we don't pay for status Indian first nations kids whose parents are on reserve IRV. That's a federal responsibility and Indian affairs and health. Canada couldn't agree which department should pay so all three of these governments Bodies Ladies were arguing over everything related to Jordan's Services and there were great advocates. There the time working with the family. Jordan's pediatrician. The medical team in the hospital course leadership at Norway House coronation. All these people were there saying. Let this kid go home. And the government couldn't find its way to putting him first and so he ends up staying enough hospital for over two and a half years and has his older sister. earlene Sullivan says in an Jordan diaper a broken heart. He slipped into a coma just before his fifth birthday and he passed away At the age of five never spending a day in the family home because he was first nations so we work with the family to create Jordan's principle which is about first nations. Kids should get the public services. They need need when they need them. Very simple and then it passed through the House of Commons unanimously. Two Thousand and seven and then the government bureaucrats Worked with the federal politicians auditions to make sure that no child ever qualified when he finally took took it to the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal. What did they find mind when the decision came out in two thousand sixteen? It's substantiated all of our complaints. It said yes. The children are receiving being discriminatory levels of Charlestown. They services funding and the federal government was ordered to immediately fix it. The federal government was not that properly implementing Jordan's principle and that was discrimination to an federal government was risk ordered to immediately implemented. And then nothing happened Long thankfully the tribunal decided to keep jurisdiction which means to Kinda watch over the government while to make sure they implemented the orders And and it took while now where I think we're up to seven noncompliance orders against the government To get them to move on it to give you an idea of the depth of the number. Our families that were in need since May of two thousand seventeen. When the tribunal ordered candidate to implement proper definition of Jordan's principle over two hundred and fifty thousand services Mrs and products have been provided to first nations children across this country thanks to Jordan and his family and many people who stood with him and on child and Family Services Services? The budget is almost doubled And that's only since two thousand eighteen. No were first. Nations agencies are starting to get the prevention services that they need need. But there's still a long way to go now. You've gotten pretty close to Jordan's family over the years. I'd like to play a clip from his sister d'orleans Sullivan I think. Think about Jordan's personality. When we were together as a family he was so happy? And you know you enjoyed joy you know. Having the company there was a struggle to spend time with them on special days Christmas and birthdays. As and all that. Because you know we couldn't afford the the tips out. His parents had a lot of faith that maybe someday he be able to come home then be she promised that you would honor Jordan and his legacy by advocating and not giving up on Jordan's principle to know that kind of person is it's an honor. It's an honor to be in her presence and I'm just happy to Oh have met a woman like with her spirit that she would not give up and I know for a fact that she's not giving up on my late brother Jordan River Anderson and my family I think Jordan would have a lot of gratitude. She it's strong warrior for advocating for his his legacy and for their children crossed nation. That was Jordan sister. Geraldine now I have the field cindy at about you. What what are you what what are you feeling? Is You listen to that. Wow you know are just so blast to have worked with this family to for their their generosity and welcome the end to this work on your sacred brothers and sons legacy And to see the Community of Norway House Oh so You know celebrate Jordan every year with the with the parade it truly is a blessing And you know I just really feel like if you really really really lucky in life then you get to be a part of working with people like Julian on her family and To create a difference for the next generation of children all generation of children to follow and on not measure. I have been so blessed. That was Cindy blackstock. Sharing the story of Jordan River Anderson Jordan was also the subject of Alan. Isa Bombs Wins Fiftieth Documentary. That debuted at tiff. This year Cindy was there to watch part of her legacy become part of Albany says and to watch Jordan's legacy continue to live on. That's it for this week's episode of unreserved. We'll be back in this radio space next week for more community culture and conversation. If you WANNA learn more or share any of the stories you heard on the show today you can find them on our website. CBC DOT CA slash unreserved. This episode was produced by Stephanie. Cram Kyle New Zeka. Zoe Tenant and analysts Hausky. If you want to get in touch with us you can email us at unreserved dot. CBC DOT CA or. Find us on facebook and twitter. I'm your favorite cousin. Rosanna dear child coming at you from Winnipeg entreaty one territory. Thank you for listening to unreserved on. CBC Radio One Agassi. Uh for more C._B._C.. PODCASTS Goto C._B._C.. Dot C._A. Slash podcasts.

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165: Twinkle Twinkle Very Old Star

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165: Twinkle Twinkle Very Old Star

"In fifteen seconds guidance journal and nine technician sequence spence nuts three to to space feels good hello and thank you for joining us on the space and that's podcast cast <hes> my name's andrew dunkley your host joining me as always professor fred watson astronomer <unk> afraid. Did i andrew. How are you sir all right. Thanks good to talk to you as always yes l. Now today we're going to try and tackle a few questions a little lighter about the big rip wormholes and an interesting sort of local one <hes> about wi fi interference from <hes> satellite intimate in in regard to the square kilometer awry. That's a really interesting question because they're alive or each other really <hes> but i got to talk about the oldest star in the we know universe that may have been discovered so that is exciting and long-haul space travel may be impossible because of brian damage now. I'm i'm assuming the brian damage happens after the long haul travellers started all we are suffering brian damage because we're thinking of going. I'm not sure which but we'll get to that a little lighter first of all fred this ancient star <hes> could be the oldest one ever discovered. Yes that's right the something of a rice going on with <hes> with this in the world of astronomy a damn australia is pretty well actually so i can remember back doc in the nineteen eighties when you know every week seemed we discovered the more distant objects will usually sells until the the record for the most distant object known to humankind humankind kept tumbling and a little bit like that with the oldest star. We say these things come up and then few months later. There's another one that's even older. It's mick jagger by the way i know a few role of yeah so the just to clarify we will one day be able to say well. Let me let me start. Let again when we look deep into the sky as you own. All our listeners know must've anyway euros looking back in time <hes> ah so you can imagine a situation where you're going to be looking back at really answering galaxies in fact there are so many she can see individual styles because of things like like gravitational lenzing which means that you are seeing stars very early. The history of the universe but we're talking about here is not bad. It's not the looking back in time. I'm tripping trick or trip which way you like it. It's not looking back in time trick. It is the ability to see stars in our neighborhood and which have evidence of being ancient and the way you pick that out is by initially is by <unk> style having strange colors and that's how the australian <hes> <unk> telescope run by strengthening national elite investigate siding spring observatory. They couldn't have them scott gripe for doing that because he got a whole array of filters can take images of the sky really detailed images of the sky looking through the different filters that allows scientists to say while he is a candidate for an all star but that's not enough what you then have to do is follow up with a big telescope one that will allow you to look at the spectrum of the style that the radio spectrum trim and to see this bach owed of information superimposed on the spectrum and it abaco really good analogy because when we look at the spectrum action style is exactly what we see the black lines on the barcode equate to what we call absorption lines essentially the thing bring excuse me fingerprints of different talents in the styles atmosphere so the most abundant element in the atmosphere ecstasies hydrogen because that's what the universality astounded offense and what happened in the very early universe there was nothing else actually was hailed as well but hot hydrogen helium were the only do things substantially that were there in the universe the tracks elements in a couple of other things that that's not pull to this context and the first generation of stars earliest wants to full would have basically not much more than hydrogen in spectrum probably been a failure because it was in the interiors of those stars that the other elements full <unk> the oxygen the cabin the iron all of all those things have full did site styles that first generation of stars would give rise to some of these heavier elements then because we believe the first generation towns were very massive they lived short lives measured intensive millions of years rather than billions of years like some at those massive styles would all have ended in a supernova explosion which blows the daybreak from which they have made at least atmosphere that debbie three from which the atmosphere is made out into the wild blue yonder which this guy's means the interstellar medium that the space between the stars what does kazan provides rule materials for subsequent generations of status to full house if they fade upon themselves and recreate accordingly so h generation of styles builds on what went before it and atmospheres are enriched by elise atoms that have been created in the previous previous generations of stars so if you want to find a very old star what you need to look for a something that's got very little in it other than other than hydrogen and helium very little spectrum and that's basically what has happened with this particular style of gotta tell you what it's called od audrey <unk> crack six zero five four zero point one eight <unk> full three to three point one forgot that these prefixes s._m._s. so i gotta side again because it's just so up all the rest rest of it as a message just stunts sky scott probably so so that basically what we'd cup and that particular da whose name i'm not going to say again turns out to have virtually nothing in it other than hydrogen leland the one thing that isn't it which is kind of gay just to hold his <unk>. This is really the yardstick by which as old styles adjudged what is in it is iron and i am content as a measure of how earliest <hes> has appeared in the history of the the universe. This one has a nine content of one pop a fifty billion so it's very very spouse in iran dan in fact some people are describing as anemic which is very nice chemists resigned deficiency very anaemic style end of its iron content is record low that state the bottom line so that swap the published paper will say it's got a vitamin to describe describe them as ultra metal poor these they started a metal by the way to donovan is everything except tien-shan helium until that sounds bizarre <hes> <hes> but <hes> we think of even oxygen in combat and things like that as metals but the metal in the normal sense of the word at that that aside <hes> this is very very poor in on that places it in the record books as being at the moment they always known stop <unk> but what is this space in a couple of months of even older i suppose where is it do. We can we point. It's actually yes it. It's tim the milky way galaxy. It's actually in the halo of our galaxy that made that not the disk of the galaxy but there is a spherical. The family rarefied distribution of stars around the galaxy. We call it the halo that's where it is is about thirty five thousand light years away as the crow flies so <unk> a rather distant object but still in our galaxy and of great interest because it's an icon disalow nice coming from i think it's the law throughout thomas norlander who's from <hes> i think he's from the australian national university <hes> he <hes> he has this lovely quotation. Which is that's amount of iron one one party in fifty billion. It's like one drop of water olympic swimming swimming pool not a glass of water but one drop of water in olympics in class. Yea certainly isn't a name a star across they probably others at the <hes> <hes> this one's in our own system but <hes> could they be all the ones in other galaxies that we might never be able to catch onto. Yes that's true. I mean you know i guess we could look for these things also in <hes> nearest neighbour galaxies. I'm like at the andromeda galaxy <hes> it said it it is possible that when we get to the next generation have <unk> telescopes <unk> sorry the extremely large telescopes <hes> we will find that we can <unk> nearby by galaxy <unk> extent that we can do the measurement sell them and you can bet your life that they'll be really answered styles as well these styles. Are you know the styles that a a relatively small compared with the giants of the universe until they've been very stops with bending the hydrogen fuel. That's why there's still going strong after thirteen probably thirty billion years or so she that's a long time isn't it. I mean it is not to get your head around a stabbing banging existence for that long but then again the universe has been in existence for longer. So why are we surprised so that's the story of j. one six zero five four zero point one on its one four four three to three point one you do it yeah. Did you yeah so sadly it's not one of the first generation of styles but it probably belongs to the second generation the ones that were formed from the debris daybreak the generations very good fascinating all right bye but watch this space is for is set for it says because probably tell you about an older one in a couple of weeks time. You're listening to space nuts. Let's andrew dunkley fred watson parfait week ago spends nuts afraid a lot of people people have asked us about long haul travel and we're going to actually tackle <hes> one of those kinds of questions a little lighter <hes>. How can we do this. We talk the the the other day about <hes> long-haul travel and spice using perhaps <hes> solar sails <hes> but the the reality of sending people people long distance versus a small spacecraft is very very different venture and we certainly don't have the technology to fold space which is certainly something that is being considered in the realm of science fiction so if we're gonna send people long distance we're going to have to do it the old fashioned and why and now starting to look like that might be more difficult than we first thought yes that's right. I mean i think come come. It's fair to say that <hes> of the technological problems that face us intent of getting people for example two miles the radiation issue is the baps the most difficult to solve yet. You can provide your astronauts with an atmosphere. You can probably build a spacecraft that will <hes> will mimic the gravity by rotation by centrifugal fullest all of those do things but what you can't do easily without lots of shielding as stop the the subatomic particles getting through the skin of the spice guy and it it particularly pertains delong holes buys fly exactly as you say so just looking at what we've done in humans bags flags so far most of the experience ab- astronauts and you know the medicine that is it's been done with astronauts relate to scientists either in the international space station or its predecessors like beer in the policies and things like that those are long long duration spaceflight but the very much in the local environment at all of those astronauts who protected to allow <unk> by the natives favor of the earth they basically the magnetic shielding the s. The s magnetism builds around the the planet so certainly the international space station. He's well within so i'm traveled to the moon of course meant astronauts left out that protective detectives zone around the us but that direction was not that much more than a week you know of the older of seven into ten days and that means that dosages of the subatomic particles were relatively low. Oh i'm so we you know we don't have any direct experience of plunking people in the middle of nowhere and watch what happens when they radiated by two specific sources one is the solar wind you know this wind of subatomic particles <hes> ah basically electrons protons electrons from the some but the other really may be more dangerous one as the in the what's called the cosmic ray flux of cosmic rays actually come from alexey another galaxies that not from the sun itself their background subatomic particles that come from a source is actually the not well defined. You know that they are we're within our galaxy probably a lot of stuff that results from a neutral stuff that results from bass black holes from supernova all of that stuff is floating around and we are irradiated where they actually cosmic rays were would i think they will i measured before the first world war aw by scientists using balloons to see you know to to record what happened so the cosmic ray flux and particularly the high energy cosmic cosmic ray flux is something that we i guess recognized for a long time as putting long-haul astronauts at risk but now some work has been done by scientists actually they're both the two scientists who publish this work they both the university of california irvine and they both <hes> basically involved with radiation oncology that says specialism and it's work they have done in looking at it's relatively low doses the kind of things that you might find you know irradiate astronauts traveling to mas but of alone periods of time and of course astronauts they've used my says <hes> basically as as substitutes had as we do so they did this six months they basically exposed mice to low level neutron radiation for six months so then look at the at the neurons in the brains in particular laser the salads that essentially still memories and things of that sort and concluded. It's not a two while they concluded that they worked great while ago fine structure in the neurons iran's has been damaged. Maybe some of the connections have as well so the there were clearly you know that studies of course after after the irradiation tested device to to find out in behavioral tubs how so how how they were coping this they say the outcome about beheshti studies demonstrated that mice exposed to neutrons for six months at trouble with learning adapting acting installing memories for example these mice were less likely to be interested in a new toy that being placed in that testing compared with a toy that had already seen before the control mice the other hand would take much more time to explode in utility than the old toy similar tests but what was was also really interesting is that the irradiated mice demonstrated a social problems much more likely to avoid <unk> social interactions at difficulty dissociating forgetting adverse event that happened in the past the the space radiation induced changes ages that increased anxiety levels so they essentially believe that they've replicated what would happen to human huma brian in spice and they believe that they could this could significantly impact once again quoting network could significantly impact the ability of astronauts responded under distress or in unexpected situations and what they've done wrong. They kind of you know translate those findings into what that might mean in human terms. They say we estimate in a crew of five astronauts traveling to mazda back we would expect to at least one member to display severe via deficits in cognitive function by the time they returned to us thaddeus scary. Very scary could be all of them. Couldn't it says statistically one in five but you could actually go the other way. Yeah that's right. They qualify qualify that by saying. This is just one study. The results must be replicated but it does raise the sobering possibility. The galactic cosmic radiation exposure asia represents a significant obstacle today's space travel and once again our coal on science fiction to provide the answer and in the movie resigns. They wrap their heads in aluminium foil that that there it is. Why did they think of that. What is going uh on if you want to follow up on this the u._s. Addition of the <unk> compensation astronauts brands is subject to long lasting damage due to lotus does the conversation the station website is one of the best online facilities really getting down and dirty into some deep meaningful staff. I go go to the website so often. There's always something interesting and they really doing a great in-depth analysis. It's fantastic absolutely relate largely because you actually answered two or three questions that were formulating in my mind while you were talking because i was going to say you know we're protected by the magnetosphere. We don't go out beyond much except to go to the moon and back and we were only at their awake. So why haven't we tested along whole trip sending someone at for months and then coming back over losing so it's a two month trip justice say what it's like probably a good thing we didn't yeah i. I think that's right so that's another problem. We need to solve. Yeah i mean. I think you know you just have to send about that with some aluminium. Uh <unk> aluminium foil just wrap that stuff around here. It is in a good sorry which movie was in the movie movie signs they will. They silly lally medium hat said that the island's couldn't read their minds sir yeah but you know it will protect you from all that other stuff as as well good that put it in microwave oven on the phone and i might mention please as forgive me for forgetting your nine but we got a message on facebook the other day from someone who is looking at becoming a doctor but specializing in space ice and wanted us to actually talk about some of the afflictions that astronauts might face. Oh she'll be fascinated to have heard that particular problem. That's a new problem but there how many many others likely issue with <hes> with damage to the is refugee caused muscle wastage is a big issue as well as just the list is rather along. Isn't it fred. It is specs petain's alive and well. It's a career that i think in the in the spice while it was probably pretty competitive to get into about. It's <hes> yeah it it. It's very very interesting. Research is being done to the melting well worth pursuing because again at night people going forward board because this is just going to get bigger and bigger imagine okay you're listening to the space nuts podcast with nutty professor for watson and the nuttier the andrew dunkley space nuts now fred to the question question what's board <hes> which is way we put all questions except it's virtual and we we're gonna try and tackle a few today and hopefully get the truth without interruption from one man. Do the cat who is in your presence right now so hopefully you'll silo but <hes> jim carrey on. It's not like grandchildren walking on your tell you that much now first question comes from a west from wiz smith highways if the universe is infinite all. We really don't know how big it is. How can we categorically say there's not auden enough matter for a big crunch with the discovery of new galaxies blackhall's etc and we don't completely understand doc energy. Oh doc matter for that matter <hes> who's to say that the universe went stop expanding and reversed itself it starts at some point respectfully with smith now we have kind of touched on this before but but <hes> it is worth sort of looking into that <hes> potential crunch i mean when i was a kid that was the the belief that the universe would expand like a like a rubber balloon and ridge boy where it will go and crush back in on itself an author was going to happen the next day but now we think it's not gonna do that at all but they are. Obviously people like me who wonder why it went well. It's a great thing you talk to <hes> to to to to ask. Let me just congress is saying this in the i think we've said this before about a brunch. Mitts who was is one of the co discoverers of energy that the accelerated expansion of the universe he always used to refer to the the big crunch has gone up gabe <hes> which which is the big bang backwards out. Get is the the advocate boring that one is a good one but look wise. He's right on the money and we can't say categorically that there is not enough massive for big crunch because of you know all we can say is is the uh we look within the observable universe now. The expansion is accelerating their horizons to the universe band which we can't see and things like the cosmic microwave background radiation. That's one of them stuff stuff like that as well but the fundamental reasons why we can't see the whole universe and indeed we don't know whether there is a whole universe we we eat may be infinite is west suggests one of the things that has been suggested. Is that what we see in our accelerated expansion is just one little blob bob a much much bigger universe. Which is you know somebody <unk> which are in a state of expansion some probably in a state of slowing down on expansion as as distinct from accelerating expansion <hes> but we can't detect those and so you've got to you know whatever you make a statement about what the universe might do abilities caveats to it <hes> the evidence at the moment is that sunday's vows the universe we can observe is concerned it is it is expanding more rapidly than it was five billion years ago so that's all all we can say we can't rule out a big crunch because you know exactly the reasons that wednesday suggested so. I can't rule out a big papa no we we come or a big rip. Whatever look what we it's white scientists particularly cosmology symptoms. They sometimes sound wishy washy because he's saying well. You know the best information we have at the moment is this this and this but that really is only say it econ sign anything categorically berkeley about a big crunch but stands what we're saying is. The expansion is ongoing and accelerating. That's correct so that's taught we know definitively but we don't know categorically now the essay next next taiwa the <hes> the ways hopefully that will help you sleep. It not now <hes> moving right along. I've been wondering a lot about half. Humans will travel to other solar all the systems <hes> while i wanted brian so when meta and i know that the regular rocket y y cut it would take thousands of years to get at i've heard <hes> people talk about wormholes and all same kind of odd the whole idea my question to you is is there any scientific backing the worm halls exist and and if there is is it a possible maine's of transportation as technology gets better in the next few hundred thousand years sincerely western minds oregon u._s._a. Thanks western austin went holes. Yeah no this you know there are theoretical entity but they come completely without any evidence of a you know the practical nature the was so in the seventies when people were looking at the physics of black holes it was realized is that you could you could <unk> equations. You could just reverse the sign of time if you've got negative time <hes> the physical <unk> seem to work and you end up with white hills rather than black holes. A dentist suggestion was made that if you've got you know to these things back to back whether they were wide tells a black holes might fulda web hall which essentially linked unrelated parts of the universe but there's no observational evidence whatsoever for this an even if the was they extremities of gravitational distortion that you get anywhere near a black hole a such that it's it's very hard to see any technology in the next ten thousand years probably the code of conduct so my guess is that we are stuck with conventional prevention methods they might however allow us to do interstellar travel bowl rapidly than the current regime of chemical rockets sits at which really made for the nearest style. He's talking about sixty thousand years of slow but if he can augment that with light sale technology under essentially projects looking at that <hes> including me we spoke about last week by the way not reminds me. We were gonna ed what the big news item was about did put it on facebook and i and i must confess a little bit of my reaction. Action was a bit all all i were announcing was that they did it and it worked any work but they actually monies to steer and in fact to put the spacecraft into a high robot which you know it's it is quite big news yeti city so it's possible that ally mando yeah mondays. It's big not actually if you go. The furniture is just about loud. You know anyway so like cell technologies. Oh jeez promising in terms of certainly would small spacecraft accelerating things to a significant fraction of the speed of lines until there is this a project breakthrough star shells which is an initiative of the russian billionaire yuri milner donna funded by your email which is to look at the possibilities of sending a very small space craft and by small main sentiment olvera thereabouts <hes> to the nearest star proxima centauri with a light sail powered by a laser either on the authority of the c._b._s. Yes that's all doing at. The moment is looking the <unk>. I haven't seen a find where he pulled on that but you can tell that people are thinking of the existed so it may be that the technologies that we could employ but women hos doesn't like what about folding space it in a sense and stats. It's related to him. Also they was a paper which read is probably about twenty thirty years ago now which was published <hes> i think in the u._k. Astronomical journal where somebody looked at the physics of the wolf driving stop track which involves folded bags and very quickly rounded the conclusion that you need more than the entire energy budget of the universe to make it work so everybody kinda lost interest after them to understandable okay so probably not western unfortunately no the states. I might find something else else now final question today hi andrew and fred i got i do not dive this time. A first time albert longtime listener wall reading one of the regular manufacturing monthly newsletters who how exciting i came across a story about a western australian minister for original donald development alana mckinnon switching on the national broadband network in australia western australia's midwest for those who died the national broadband broadband network is at high speed internet service and in some areas in remote country. It has to be fed by a wireless signal. I presume the midwest this includes areas just south of the region encompassing lee square kilometer orion other radio astronomy projects so that rise in questions actions in relation to the technologies used for the wireless broadband network which bring advanced technologies remote pharma's given the sky 'sensitive sensitive isn't putting powerful wireless base stations one hundred or two hundred kilometers away potentially a risk. How close is too close. How big is the sign for a billion dollar l. international project. How does the sky deal with noise from such sources. Is there a no fly zone for drains and other industrial oregon cultural aircraft that are mobile sources of our if noise dogs and cats living together who shot j on cain to hear thoughts. That's from justin availble melvin. Thank you yet and you know that's a fantastic question is right on the money and i think just in santa's of he's got some handle on the technology so i can direct him strikes to the <hes> to the whole season it can which is the web page a. which relates exactly to this there is a web page on our website that let's see <hes> department of industry innovation signs one of their web pages called australian radio quiet zone w way and that is all about the essentially the exclusion zone full the <unk> radio frequency interference in the square kilometer array and it's quite extensive that website entree gives details of not just the area that's covered which actually is is more the five hundred kilometers in diameter. It's a large area centered on a point which is about three hundred and fifty kilometres northeast of gerald carrollton which is the radio quiet zone and that is actually covered by a whole lot of legislative regulatory regulatory policy instruments that actually set up the legalities of what you can and can't do that so that they they include things like the midwest radio quiet zone frequency band plan that <unk> frequencies he can operate them the assignment licensing instructions instructions that i think that's all part of the structure in particular at their things like radio communications <unk> plus licenses for satellite phone c._b. Radio <unk> potential devices as well as a radio telescope mineral resource management area. All of these things are already already in place. That's in the zone which is out to seventy kilometers <unk> <unk> out his own beyond that to one hundred fifty kilometers tomatoes and then there's something called the coordination zones which go out to two hundred sixty kilometers radius so you talk about five hundred kilometers all told <unk> quick look italy's when this question came up and of course the the the thing about radio transmissions that are used for communications and things like that. They're very specific frequencies on that big gaps in those frequency bands which are the ones that are interested interesting radio astronomers and that's why these things that have been tallied with one another. I know from talking to astronomers at the murchison jason radio astronomy observatory that one of the problems that they have notwithstanding all this stuff is that the telescopes are so sensitive the <unk> radio interference from reflections from the mood if you've got communication signals which are thousands of kilometers from the telescope they still effectively finding their way to the telescope because of <unk> basically because of reflections from the moon so it. It is a very difficult issue. It's kind of similar you know to the problems we have in optical astronomy where a lot yellowish in yeah yeah but i'm just a suggestion that just how she goes has a website because the details of that need particular how interacts with things like high speed <unk> high-speed road onto the n._b._a. What about the no-fly zones and drawings implying polling places well covered. It's all covered justin at it doesn't mean it will stop stuff from getting discount but at least i've come up with a formula that will reduce the amount of interference in eh them to define the little green men whatever else was at the <hes> in the long term all <hes> an answer to justin's other question a was kristen shifted he shot j._r. He didn't ask that question i just i hope you'll just just huma a andrew. He gets like this giant time happens after i've spent a lot of time in space summers and could be taste better be. It'll probably a lot of time in the space between my e-z <hes> one more thing before we go for it. We have to shout out to our patrons ends again. <hes> fantastic people and the numbers are growing. We now have thirty three patrons who <hes> supporting podcast and we really appreciate them. <hes> <hes> putting up a few dollars each month to to cape is on the national broadband network because it's don expensive but <hes> yeah fantastic. 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