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"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

03:31 min | 1 year ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"He find online or tied into what are called again, these wasp facility. So this story for another time, just go and have a listen and when we're done to those episodes and them up against his telling of what narine witness in heard slowest turn back that now. Gannon according to investigators like Skolnick is involved in high level espionage and is also an expert on torture. He is said to have been an expert penetration agent using sex to compile negative data on us in foreign governmental officials and is also believed responsible for the Valerie. Plame White House leak that allegedly caused seventy CIA undercover agents to be murdered. Yet other suggests that Gosh took on the persona of James Gannon, Slash Jeff, GUK IRT debts G.. You CK Ert Jeff Zucker and gain white. House access the eventual goal of exposing the people kidnapped him and put him and his family through Hell Gannon is alleged to have a publishing deal with the Russian printing company. which some believe will result in a tell all book that exposes who've paid for his services as well as the pedophilia ring that he as Gosh was victimized after his kidnapping I'm convinced ninety nine percent that he is Johnny Gosh says Ted Gunderson at retired FBI agent who's been working on the Goss- case for more than a decade. The only way I be one hundred percent sure is if there was a DNA test or if he admitted he basis that opinion on a confidential source for Mooney claims to have videotaped testimony that he has might defying Gannon as Gosh. My sources told me in the past that he has maintained contact with Jani Gosh. Said Gunderson let's just say he's in a position to know the kids are all in touch with each other and it's a bond they all share the kids he refers to you or those force into the sex slavery rings and the government sponsored mind and behavior control programs. One of these kids is a man named Paul. BANACCI. Who claims to have participated in the kidnapping of Johnny Gosh and says, he was forced to be the first person to molest Johnny but NACI has long claimed to be part of the vast network of children trained to work for the government and participate in deviant sexual acts to make the blackmail of politicians possible that stuff is. True folks did happen. This is fact. In nineteen ninety, nine, Banacci one, a one, million dollar lawsuit against Larry King the former head of the Franklin credit. Union in Nebraska whom he claimed forced him into the pedophilia ring, the federal judge ruled Banacci was truthful in his testimony which included his claim that he was one of several young male prostitutes known to have toward the White House in the nineteen eighties. Gunderson claims that BANACCI is not his source for the Gannon is gosh claim but adds that BANACCI informed him a while back that Gosh had changed his appearance John decamp author of the Franklin cover up said, Benatti. told him the same thing I do know that Johnny Gosh altered his appearance and the changes I heard about conform to Al? Gannon. Looks now he says. Paul told me. You could be standing right next to him and not no, it's Johnny..

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"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

05:20 min | 1 year ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"Of this home in Mississippi and its connections to many politicians within Congress and within the state houses and governors were mostly boys were flown in for the use of these people at parties. This is fact people and not a conspiracy theory I will try and list some links for you in the show notes if possible to realize as we go over this info at, there are literally thousands of these facilities still in operation as a mention. Direct them and brazen activities of the Bethel baptist boys and girls. Home is in will stand out as the worst of the worst as far as utilizing real techniques to break down the child's mind to fracture it into remembering only specific details due to their brain, still developing and having a certain trust and adults. Especially, those adults that held your life in their hands literally held them in their hands sooner or later you'd have a certain section. Of these miners that was unwavering in their devotion to the Kalt even to this day over thirty five years ago they even set up camp there due to the state's laws in being forced to sign your child over I'm talking about Herman Fountain and Family they set up in Mississippi because of the state laws there which allowed parents to sign over their children to these facilities. In that way, they could do anything they wanted with them. Which again, if you listened to the story over there, Emplo podcast, you'll be blown away by what happened there and Why was the biggest case of the twentieth century? As far as children's Kalt is concerned and wi-with was swept under the rug. They're actually used to be video of the congressional, hearing when Youtube first appeared, but it's nowhere to be found anymore. When you hear the details laid out there, that makes you think that children that I saw come and go from the Bethel home and what I endured d to what I saw there on my own the eventual escape vase of maneuvers hiding from them for three weeks in a swamp I don't mean a wetland or wet area. I mean a swamp with large Cypress trees and about four feet of water in most places up to a few inches as it abutted onto large properties farmland or. Ranchland only to eventually had into the tiny town of Lucid L..

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"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

03:44 min | 1 year ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"So the for the dates to keep in mind in late January, a conservative journalists in Washington D. C. was found to have gained access to the White House press pool despite using a fake name, and despite the fact that he wants work is the high priced homosexual escort. Jeff Gannon was a white. House correspondent for Talon News who regularly attended white, house press briefings, and at least four press conferences with President George W Bush who also comes up in the in the pull up a few episodes guy. So again, this this this is running directly parallel, which is amazing after riot into the details of this case. On January twenty, six, two, thousand, and five. Gannon asked a question of the president that was so friendly in factually inaccurate that some of his colleagues began looking into his background talent news it was learned is largely disguised tool of the Republican Party and cannons credentials as a journalist consist solely of a training course at Leadership Broadcast School of Journalism. After two days of training costs fifty dollars getting was officially a graduate of a journalism school in on his way to the White House press pool. That's ridiculous. How easy it was for him to do. It was soon discovered that Gannon's real name is Jeff Gucker that's G. U. C. K. E. R. T., and that he has also gone by the nickname bulldog. When listing himself on the Internet as he homosexual escort and personal trainer charging around two hundred dollars per hour for his discreet services. Gannon was removed from the White House and resigned from Talon News on February eight. Ganden Gate quickly became the presidential scandal of the hour though the story faded from public view as most do almost all do as politicians and the media eagerly turned their attention as such pressing matters as steroids in baseball and the Terri Schiavo's situation back at that time. But before long internet bloggers had picked up the story and began to think back to the administration of the President Bush's father. which was rocked by scandal that allegedly involved the high level official giving private late night tours of the White House two teenage male prostitutes again, something that I mentioned and got into in the pull up a few episodes. So this is this is really amazing. Taft somebody else writing about the same information and backing it up. The New York Times and the Washington. Post both wrote about the story in the eventual death. Washington lobbyists Craig Spence who reported the Lee arranged visits Spence. It has been suggested was preparing to admit publicly that he was using the teenage boys to blackmail high power politicians in the beltway. He committed suicide before you had the opportunity to do. So how many of you believe he committed suicide there? Okay, right. With. A dislike Epstein committed suicide. All of the stuff is connected folks. With the gay escort gaining access to the White House during Bush administration while many of the same officials from the eighties are back in power. The question became is there a connection private investigators? Sherman H Skolnick posted a story about the Gannon debacle on www dot rennes dot com a site known for its conspiracy theories and publicly stated on February nineteen that Gannon is Johnny Gosh..

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"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

03:26 min | 1 year ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"Amount of facilities in the way these things were done in the connections with government. So and look today I mean you've got the Epstein. There's children that are being found all around the world. You're just not hearing about in the news, but you're you're founding finding tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of children. That's not an exaggeration They are you know going after these sex trafficking rings. That had these children in bondage and actually getting them releasing them in reuniting them with their parents. This has been going on for the better part of the last two years. So it's it's incredible. It's it's incredible thing to see right now. So Narino. All she. Well, she didn't want to believe or child was kidnapped sexually abused and tortured brainwashed. That's again key. And sold into slavery but she accept this now and as indisputable truth, and she is not alone many others accept the existence of a vast network of high profile people, powerful politicians, business leaders, law enforcement, government agents who exist in a subculture of degenerates who participate in child pornography, snuff films, drugs, devil-worshipping brainwashing, and kidnapping, and again I can attest to this. Excuse me. That, this actually does happen. There are these groups they do exist. There is proof that these groups do exist. so as noreen believes that Johnny and hundreds of other children like him, it's actually thousands was forced into the life of depravity by those who kidnapped him. But Johnny story has been told the thousand times it's been analyzed disputed and ridiculed just as frequently. Of. Course, you're going to have naysayers because they just don't understand are not willing to accept that this stuff does happen. So we Neither, the time and space nor the inclination repeated here in full as tragic as it may be, it's old. News? Nothing major has happened in the case for some time and the allege players in the story have been silent absent or simply missing for years until recently. In the past few months, there's been a flurry of activity among the people once related to this case and the conspiracy that surrounds it and the midst of this Com commotion. Some believe Johnny Gosh has been found very much alive. Recent offense began with Jeff Gannon, the right wing journalist who was found to have gained access to the white. House press pool with few credentials and a fake name. The death of Hunter S. Thompson followed shortly. I remember that news and the correlation between him. And trafficking rings, which was just a real shame to hear about since he was one of my favorite authors. The arrest of two men seemingly unrelated in Nebraska and Virginia within days the Gannon Story and Thomson Staff also play a role in the story. And all these events some suggest are related to the twelve year old paper boy kidnapped from West Des Moines's twenty three years ago, and if they are right, there is much more to come and remember this is from two thousand five..

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"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

03:53 min | 1 year ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"Children when and because we truly do care here is and we know the highly horrific stats out there of children that are abducted and there are so many of them boggles the mind in how once that I, our passes, your shot at finding them alive gets dangerously close to zero the apple APP. This podcast and all your fellow listeners make that stat grow exceptionally lower. No we can't guarantee that we're gonNA find each and every person there of course. there's too many variables, but but we can't guarantee is our devotion in our to nasty to get things done. Again we're a tool folks we are immersive podcast that is a tool and a partner for the phone APP the only other APP out there. That's even remotely as good as this one is the FBI zone APP, but the the big differences, the FBI APP is not specifically a missing persons. HAP-. So they've got a lot of good information on there and they could also be contacted later, but you're not gonNA get a force of people they're searching immediately. That's not what the APP is for. For their APP, but it's the only one like I said that I'd even looked at that now. Looks good and has you know professional features built in? So. Just like with Johnny here in this case you know let's let's get into it. This is a from an article that appeared in the alternative weekly. I was called the point blank. Des Moines. Iowa obviously in early April two thousand and five keep in mind that Johnny went missing in Nineteen, eighty, two the day. The story came out the paper actually closed in the writer of this piece was fired and it makes you wonder if. Some of the information that he had in here I wouldn't doubt it either caused this paper to shut down. So. Let's just get into it. So Noreen Gosh sits in a booth at the West des Moines village in nursing a cup of coffee and managing despite her larger than life personality to blend into the surroundings and keep a low profile in the almost empty restaurant. She is with their thoughts and willing to share what information she can yet she remains guarded and cautious and thoughtful in a manner often mistaken as Colin. standoffish. She thinks carefully she speaks about her son Johnny and the players in a bizarre conspiracy surrounding his disappearance in Nineteen eighty-two that continues to evolve and may finally be on the verge of breaking down just because you don't want to believe in something is true says noreen slowly that doesn't mean it's not true. It's a statement that bears repeating just because you don't want to believe something is true that doesn't mean it's not true anyone who has heard the theory surrounding Johnny got his disappearance on September Fifth Nineteen eighty-two. Knows, they are difficult to accept if there are satanic defiles working in the top levels of government and law enforcement selling kids on the block market and forcing them into prostitution pornography extortion and things far worse. It's easier as a human being to simply believe that such things could not be true and I'm just GonNa to add in here. This is why you need to listen to the pull up a few episodes on the Bethel Baptist boys home Kalt episode because it really does dovetail with this perfectly about what was going on there how was happening and just the the.

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"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

04:53 min | 1 year ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"So if you guys could please if you like what you hear you like what we're doing, you understand what we're doing here and how important this work is that if you do two things is you know rate in review. A, five star review would be phenomenal but really does anything you want to review it and rated as is fine and that's for both for the phone. APP. what you just go and download Goto Iowa's or to you the plate store for a google. And Up, they're ready ready for you to download. So. And then after that will also be contact with you if needed to gain and gather additional information that can help the searchers and find your loved ones that's how fast and efficient this is. So we would also be doing this in real time doing very quick interview with you to get even more specific information that is obviously relevant to the case so we can find the individual. So again, we now for the first time, only ask for three dollars a month folks so that we can upkeep the APP, maintain it in its current condition while adding more relevant features for you as technology changes and more and more pieces of the tool become available. He will also still keep this podcast totally free and never ever have a ridiculous paywall behind it. We may at some point except the sponsor, but that's only if they fit and pass the standards we uphold. The case on Johnny Gosh hit. So close to home for me on an event happened in my own life that parallels Janis ordeal. So if you go to the poll up a Pew podcast, that's P. U., L. L. UP A. Pew Like A CHURCH UP W PODCAST up that'll be down in the show notes or somewhere where you can actually Just go to the website. There's a lot of different locations that you can go to download that idea deep dive into a Colt. religious Colt that I was sent you and fortunately it was it was a big big botch. I was a teenager. My parents were lied t they had no idea what they were getting into. And it parallels a lot of the information that You're going to hear about here in the Johnny Gosh story as far as he was involved in why there's literally thousands of these locations across the United. States in another country's though the place that I was at the Bethel Baptist boys and girls home this this called was compartmentalize between being a religious called and the the owner quote owner..

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"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

04:10 min | 1 year ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"DOT COM A- with a Ford Slash and then once was lost O. N. C. E. W. A. S. O. S. T.. that. If you have this APP and we have a ton of you that have made the choice to be prepared and responsible adults already, I'd like to encourage you to please donate to the one 'cause. You can actually see working for you each and every day unlike many other causes than we have some higher tiers give you producer level recognition and the thanks if every person out there with children. In tow and or parents in need of a wise and watchful owl comforting the vulnerable at all times night and day there's some cool Merck's you receive what these higher levels and are greatly appreciated. But right now our goal is just simply for each of you to please give this some serious consideration to just comment at the three dollars a month level, and that will allow us to grow much faster. because this work simply on laws of large numbers, which just means it. It narrows and reduces the chances are even the event of you becoming an actual stat, which, of course, you do not want to be we already have a number of people that have taken that leap and even a couple that opted for the owl logo t shirts come with it again this. Is All provided through Patriot. It's GonNa get better and better. This is something we started. So keep that in mind and we're not even concerned with those higher levels just three dollars a month at lousy us to keep this APP running and keep it up to date and also adding more and more features that are cluttering it but are useful that are useful. Additions to the APP to help us in locating that. Or individuals. So the stuff's pretty cool. It's provided by patriots like I said. So that merch will get even nicer as we progress, but it's not about the march. It's about being part of the solution in not a liability. So trust me.

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"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

04:03 min | 1 year ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

12:53 min | 1 year ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"They might have just taken a good guess because they know the area these guys maybe drive around in okay. I can accept that. So they they find the the truck but then they start walking once the detectives get out there They were already disturbing the scene by looking in the truck. Moving things around. I think they looked under a tarp. Make sure Jeffrey wasn't there. And I understand you know who knows a lot. A lot of people might have done that. You're not thinking about disturbing the senior made. The really are concerned about Jaffrey. And they're looking to see there again. I get it so but the but the thing that I don't that I'm getting at is once. They started to walk with Anthony and then along with John in Jesse all of them in the direction they anthony showed them and the parts They all pick them up and we're carrying them. This is all evidence everybody knows this so again. You know for this person and the people out there. In this area that are directly involved with the case or it inserted them. You gotTA accept this stuff. It is what it is. It's not it's not just going to go away on its own in. It has absolutely nothing to do with the once was lost podcast. This was our first case. We just partnered up up with Nick Conway because of the nature of his APP and the nature of what we were doing. You know it saved saved us from having to develop. Our own APP was perfect. It was perfect marriage. So that's why we got together and the first person that we saw was Jeffrey even though he had already he been missing in happened to be found. We looked at the case. Talk with the family and once we saw all of the discrepancies discrepancies. All of this strangeness. All of the High Strangeness Just Absolute Whacko Opposite What anybody putty would consider to be. Normal activity was done and then after researching as well. We didn't just jump on it. We researched searched. It looked at all. The articles looked at web sluice and a lot of other big time blogs that deal with these cases and it was already there. He was all ready there and it was there for the same reasons that we decided to bring the story to everybody everybody because it had so much intrigue and the chances of this getting reopened with just I feel with the information. That's already ready there. If brought to a higher court in disturbing the scene. They didn't even know if there was a crime. Because adding found Jeffrey but again they did find him. Two months later he was down at the bottom of a ravine laid out on his back splayed out with his arms out and which is very strange position but again I'm not going to speculate on a doctor. Arrhythmia minding being denied. Get into that area. But they didn't find and again any specific foul play a gunshot stabbings Major strangulation anything gruesome anything like that. They didn't find it so again Very strange why we couldn't get these interviews because it really early would've gone a long way. I even explained it in detail to them. Why would be a very good idea to come on do the interview get it out of the way Wasn't there to point. Fingers explained all that we did have questions and then they could explain it. Frank Freight directly from the horse's mouth so to speak coming from their perspective might have cleared up quite a few things. Because a lot of podcasts are are going to be doing this story. There's thousands of true crime podcast. Even I don't like to put us into that category story. Would I call. This is immersive podcasting because we have the relationship with the phone APP and then also directly with people people that would be out there searching looking listening so we have that relationship with the audience to little bit different than how a normal podcast I would operate so anyway so back so we've got that problem of Anthony Go back and listen to that episode and listen to what the girls had to say the condition he was in he wasn't wet even though it had been snowing he said he woke up laying laying on his stomach but yet he was dry. Doesn't make any sense but again there might have been a reason for this. We could have found that out. Unfortunate really is because all that's going to happen is more and more people are gonNA speculate. It's going to get more and more out of control. And until the family only gets all of their information together submits what they need to do and things are really brought under control as far as any additional speculation. Or what may have gone on or what didn't go on whatever Once able to do a deeper dive into this the detectives so I think a lot of things are going to be answered that are going to come to light and make sense and finally kind of makes sense of of some of these things Hopefully why Anthony Never said a word to anybody about Jeffrey being missing why would still dry. What did he do do at that jacket? Why didn't accept really any food or water? Why did he want beer and corn nuts? That's that's usually not the first thing at all you would be craving unless you're possibly coming down from being high for methamphetamines and again I hate to go into that area but it's public info and it's a possibility. The girls brought it up on their own without a poking poking prodding at all that that's kind of how they took the situation that they are familiar with people that are under the influence and so those specific drugs in how they act Especially when they're coming down from those drugs speculated on while maybe that's why he stayed out in the woods for a few additional hours in order to calm down but we don't know we have no idea but that's not not a bad not a bad piece of speculation there unless you're anything different so so then he will call his girlfriend to let her know about what was going on before calling police piece and again you know people do things for different reasons. People can be in shock. That's where are these. These guys don't understand. Actually how objective give I. Am You know once I go into something like this. Everybody's got a different story. Everybody's got a different take And that's really what we what we wanted In order to put context to what's going on because the way that it's written out by detectives word for word and and in the stories and you know as far as the news is concerned and the eye witnesses. It's exactly as we reported it word for word exactly as you heard it and each one of those nodes each one of those talking points that we bring up or what would be considered the be suspicious or out of place or very strange. There's nobody that can say anything different unless they decided into come on and say something different so anyways that's for rat so we're going to kind of just let that rest let the family do what what they need to do and guys you've got to trust me that they know what they're doing. They got a really good grasp on this. They've got all kinds of additional information. You know that people have no idea about dat again. I'll say just raises more questions than the answers to very very strange case here very strange And that's why like I said I found that whole area as far as its density in population and the amount of people that go missing especially that drive off there were two cases just last year driving off the road and into the Unquote River and the people being found in the car still strapped in in the river just doesn't make any sense it's really weird But you know statistically these things do happen so We can't say that those are suspicious. It's just strange and another reason. Why Report on this and other reason why? It's important for us to report on this story because people that live in that area deserve to know what's going the on to hear what law enforcement had to say about this but the family has to say about this and then again I reached out to every other person involved in offered damage. Shot this to come on and explain and talk about this With me just with me and not a single one of them took took that up GotTa be a reason for that. I don't know what it is. I'M NOT GONNA speculate at this point. It doesn't really matter at the moment. The album matters is what the family's doing now. And how the state will look at this this information when it's ready to be Presented so I also WanNa let everybody know that pull up up a pew P. E. W. pull up a pew podcast. We're GONNA get moving on that again. That's the other podcast. We do all kinds of very cool stuff yet. Really really good interviews from people from all different areas but in things that I enjoy like theoretical physics Dealing with existential. It's a central threats. I interviewed Dr Peter. PRY WHO is on the presidential team when it comes to Protecting us in the grid power grid from EMP's or electro magnetic pulses either By person meaning nuclear which would be horrible. Obviously were naturally which is the one that concerns us most because we are way past passed to from a coronal mass ejection and basically what that would do is shut everything down. That's electric folks. Everything that you have that is electric. Would stop working. That means no water. Because you can't pump it pumps work off electricity. You're stuck basically with what so you've got that day that it happens and that said so by the end of the first year ninety percent of the population in the country would be gone on another horrible statistic. But it's factually of run the numbers over and over and over again and I think the reason being conservative there her and the replacement parts we would need for these massive transformers and for these different points across the country you were the power flows in and then it's separated out in out to the Each smaller area. These junctions to you want to call them. That ah are made in China. People already know my thoughts and concerns about that and I laugh. Only because if I'll absurd that is that we would allow China to make those parts that are so crucial to our entire power grid with China being the adversary that they are is beyond me. And all you gotTa do is look to the past. I say and deals and things done through.

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"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

16:22 min | 1 year ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"The Internet information that they have their. This is a very small town. I don't know what they're receptionist like. Obviously obviously they bird on facebook and snapchat and all these other different things so they have access should they should be able to read articles and see the information that's out there and what sows thousands upon thousands of people are stating You know once you insert yourself into a case like this than it becomes public information public knowledge. Anybody should understand that. So you're opening yourself up to questions in suspicion may be but I don't even want to. I don't like going there. It's really just just more questions than trying to get answers to those questions that can satisfy satisfy people's concerns or or worries Again wants a case closed or if it's open and it goes into law enforcement it's public it becomes a public concern not to mention. I don't know if people are aware but Douglas County where where this occurred. has its own missing persons facebook page. I haven't seen I've seen it before. But very very very rarely does account have its own page specifically for missing persons in place like Oregon in a place with such small small population density the size of Roseburg The amount of people that live there mount angel surrounding areas and I found announed at least four other cases in two thousand nineteen the same year. I didn't happen to see on the facebook page. They may be there but which incurred missing persons people just for no reason that they can find driving straight off road down through the woods Embankment right into the Unquote River. And if you guys all remember the core river flows right through there right right around. Where all of this occurring with with Jeffrey in Anthony? So we're GONNA make this quick And then hopefully we're GONNA get into a few other things as I have somebody else and I'm working with on the application With a person has been missing for quite a while that we are probably GonNa do an interview with that It's not an emergency per se so we'll We'll spend it once we get there so we're GonNa go there and then of of course we're going to be working on different cold cases in between Missing persons reports. That will come in obviously over time. They're gonNA come in at some point or another and will be right on top of that Be Able to provide that real time information and and also resources that nobody else can do they just. They're not equipped to be able to do this right now. How quickly we can and to help? Law Enforcement Horsemen in families. So the things that people need to pay attention to on this case one is that Jeffrey. Anthony Anthony apparently had been driving around for a couple of days with no sleep in. And we've we've touched on drugs a little bit and drug use in the culture around there and again again. This is all public information. It's all there in the reports. Everybody admits everybody knows that their use and even Jeffrey's mother Angel Will Tell You. Jeffrey wasn't an angel though he was a very good guy but he dabbled in drugs like a lot of young people. Do so that comes into play here but to what degree we don't know but what I'd like to know is is why they decided to pull off. The main roads drive up into the mountainous area. Cut a forestry gate open close it put their own a lock on it again driving up into unless they were GONNA stop to use drugs and again. I'm only trying to put some objective on this. What would be the reason or do? Okay let's awesome just to sit and talk about that guy leave drugs out of it or anything else because you can't go anywhere it's a dead end But again they apparently got stock in punctured the gas tank so. Let's just go with that. So if this occurred your next move. Even if you're not a wilderness survivalist survivalist is going to be to walk back to the main road. They were only about a mile mile and a half up from the gate and back where the main roads were to find get civilization or you could have found a car coming up for back the other way whatever but they decided to walk completely in the opposite direction into into the woods in into the snow the weather was starting to get worse. There was some initial confusion over the day I it was Friday than it was Saturday but we think now that this actually occurred Sunday Saturday night or Sunday morning. Something like that because Anthony was really only out for one night and he came in. This is the most important part of the entire story separated separated from Jeffrey. He says he has no idea when but sometime that night or that morning and again that's the one thank everybody can't get over that it would be very difficult to have gotten hyperthermia. I prefer me as quickly. It would take some time though. I'm sure of the cold was affecting them just like anybody else But it's very very difficult for people to accept that you could get separated from WHO's considered to be your best friend that you would have huddled up close next to each other again. You don't need to be a wilderness. Survival has to know to do that. Most people bowl understand that you want to try to stay together and close together to keep warmth also walked back out toward civilization but again we gotta not a scratch that so they're going in the opposite direction also the dismantling of the truck tailgate. Why I mean we can speculate on a lot of different reasons? Why but the reason Anthony provides is to take the tools that they apparently used for work that we haven't really determined whose tools they are who they belong to? Whether they're all anthony's denise or they were Jeffries or both. It's not really that important but the reason that they don't want to have the tool stolen I who's going to be driving up there one two. They put a lock on the gate rang. no-one's can be driving up there either. That's the one of the most horrible strangest excuses. I can think of would be to take the time number one to get that tailgate off. You're wasting all of this time in daylight and everything else just to put tolls on to drag it like a sled because you're afraid someone's going to steal them but after a very short distance you start to see tools just dropped off off the sled because it was heavy said kept taking another one in dropping it off and dropping it off almost like breadcrumbs just moving along the again you know. These are the kinds of things that we wanted to talk with. Anthony about to ask ask why objectively not pointing any fingers. None of that really mattered. At the time. It was just a matter of you know. Look it's a close those cases. Can you please answer that. Help us to understand it because nobody else can and he may have had a very specific reasonable. You know excuse for doing this but we'll never know so anyway so we've got that trail Then they tried to light. The fire was too cold Jeffrey had to do it I think Anthony said his hands were to coal. They were trying to scale up The side of a ravine was very difficult. I'm sure it would have been a cold. I understand that long story short. They get separated again. And that's what I wanted to talk to anthony about what ICAN remember and how that's even possible. What would have happened? Did He Dino I mean only out there for a few hours in that one day I can't see anybody passing out. They were also wearing info clothing. We know anthony was wearing a jacket because we have a firsthand witness account of him wearing the jacket and that's a whole other issue so he was wearing clothing for the weather now. This was days on upon days on days. and the weather's getting worse. You're GONNA get hyperthermia. At some point. I get that. I think anybody understands that but this is just one night and then then he appears down by the hot springs that we've mentioned everybody in kind of if you want to go back and listen to the other episodes they tell you kind of exactly where that is. You can find it easily on a map you can look at the whole area you can find the NF to five to road that the trump with stuck on apparently And then go from there and see how strange it is the direction they went in. And then How far they needed to walk? It was only a couple of miles that most even just to get to the hot springs and on the way down there. Anthony Uneven stopped at two locations and spoke to people and didn't mention one time about Jeffrey so again that would be the question we wanted to ask and there might have been a good reason. Maybe didn't feel at that point that Jeffrey would be in any danger. Jeffrey would be fine. Eastern may be right behind him somewhere And again because things are so close because of all the locations. That may be didn't have any fear that Jeffrey would have any problem in being able maybe to follow his footsteps in the snow that had started to fall. See a lot of different things like this that I can even think of again. It's really a huge chain. That none of these people would accept the invitation tation just to come on and discuss this Again just objectively anyway. So he spoke to people didn't mentioned he wanted to know where the forestry station was which he never actually went to ended up down near the path that leads out to the springs from the parking lot. there in the park and that's where he witnessed a few other people including The two women that eventually pick them up now here again is where we would need to have firsthand explanation because it doesn't fit. This doesn't work right. It just doesn't I don't care and I'll say one little line and that that e mail because most of it was just again juvenile. cussing act complete complete idiot You know but saying that we don't really know what's going on what really happened. Then tell us that's okay. Just tell us we would have been very open to that would have done a very objective. Job I think they're even very immature. You know even understood that last episode about you know the forest ferry I think they took the term ferry as some derogatory stay even were even look at the spelling and even his spelling is of the old English version. It just means a forest sprite or something or somebody. That's in the woods because that's winning. Anthony was doing was out in the woods. They had seen him on the trail asked him. I don't know they didn't ask me feels. Okay there's said Lo he says the low in the kept going. The girls ended up at the springs. Somebody brought up Anthony Agars that they saw him they said yes. They mentioned that he look a little weird kind of strange. Really say anything so they felt it was off as well so again guys. This isn't the podcast it's not the family. It's nobody. These are strangers and people with objective points of view and You know their own relativistic Viewpoints of what happened at the time coming directly from their lips of what they saw not from us so it is what it is When Anthony was finally only seen for the last time and given the ride was hours later so after he was seen on that trail? I have no idea why you would have disaster. Hey I need some help can it. Can you give me a ride down the store or to the ranger station or whatever anybody would have done that or maybe not but we'll never know because they're not going to tell us but when you don't ask for help and then you go back into the woods surrounding the parking lot area or around in. There were seen also wearing a coat. Winter Coat K.. Hours later seen again on the same trail with no coat. Where did the CO go? I think again anybody in the right mind would find that to be strange. Minimally minimally suspicious. Probably what's going on and then finally asked for the ride side. They get him in the car. You can listen to the whole interview. It's very detailed. They do a very good job Without them a lot of this table filled in and again firsthand. This is not second hand information. I ran the Had discussions with Anthony which were very strange Him even calling Jeffrey in idiot and I Dunno I just again the very last things. You would have sat sad about your friend. That is still lost up in the woods or even if he didn't think he was lost he still up there and it's been quite a quite a while. I don't see how he couldn't think that he was lost with with something wrong. Going on at that time the first order of business would be defining help. And and that's the major key here. Everybody that's why we're all upset. That's why everybody is concerned. That's why anybody looking at this when you go. And look their comments. Say that it's very suspicious to say the least Even though again they did close the case. And I just don't understand why even those parts that I mentioned that they were dropping off once Jesse and John The two friends of Anthony Jaffrey route looking happened to find the car. I don't know how they were able to do that so easily but again going to question that that's not the end of the world..

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02:27 min | 1 year ago

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"Hi everybody this is true in. This is the owl once was lost. PODCAST just here to give you. You guys are quick update on what's going on with Jeffrey Vance and the information and Needed in order to get the case reopened. How that's working and a comeback from that that break which I'll explain to everybody buddy why it was so important the Right.

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OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

16:26 min | 1 year ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"So anyways that's what we're going to be doing hopefully growing and You know providing people that chance chance so again. Thank you so very much for taking the time to do this and I'll let you know When it'll be out in does he buys can subscribe and hear the whole thing is you're GonNa want to yeah to hear all of the additional stuff for sure all right? Well thank you thank you. Yeah thank you guys too. All right bye bye. All right everybody everybody moping you took some notes and this part of the detectives report art was Kept out the other day and the reason is because I knew that was going to be able to interview them in person in order to get specific information and you even heard them mentioned about the detective when he called You know he you know how to describe it He did ask questions. He did But none of the important things is what I'm getting at Was discussed you know. I didn't hear anything at all about the other folks folks that Anthony saw the you know the other people up at the hot springs. This is really important information in. Why were they not interviewed? Why were they not spoken to you? Know really just from this interview you can pretty much put together and formulate at least an opinion at this point I believe You know I have have one and I don't like to again. I really don't like to point fingers fingers and I believe people are innocent before proven guilty always in a quarter of law. No matter what I think are anybody thinks even even even the family I told them before we even started you know. Just prepare yourself just got except it's always possible you knowledge could have been a really strange accident. They do happen. But I'm sorry. The odds of that in our in. Even though the cases closed in they said it was caused by the elements. And you know probably probably again fall. Down this this ravine this five hundred foot ravine but who's to say he's not pushed or place there possibly. There's all kinds of different things that could have occurred because when you take the behavior of the individual and you know compare it to what really anybody else would have gone and I know that sometimes people do strange things and and if he was truly I two thermic you know in his mind wasn't working right. You know. Well maybe he does some of these things but not when he put it all together. You put each thing together how he actually appeared more alert. The second time the cope. Why did he take the code off? The East should have been becoming more and more. Coal is east again becoming hypothermic. I have heard of people wants to have full on hypothermia. After some time as you're getting really close adept at some people literally strip off all their clothes which is weird but that does occur. But that's not what's happening here nuclei. That's not what's happening here at all. They had to keep asking about Jeff's right. I mean he really didn't offer any information at all fact he didn't even want to talk about Jeff other than calling him names and and being from Kansas and this and that kind of setting up maybe you know the story of. That's why he's missing. That's why he when he woke up face face I in the snow. Supposedly in Jeffries has gone you know. Well he's just gone because he's an idiot. He's from Kansas. You know that's the best he could come up with Also something else. That wasn't in any of the reports a few noticed He said to the two ladies here that they went back to the truck that was never mentioned so he told them and again. Who knows? Maybe I don't know why he's telling the girl L. says that they went back to the truck on load the tools but that's not true. They were dropping them off as they were hiking away from the truck getting to that wall face or whatever they were trying to climb up. Just all bull you know him passing out not remembering anything. Thank you really didn't take very long to even get their. These areas are so close together between where the truck is and the springs is only a few miles els. I mean you could have gotten there within a couple of hours of just walking and And that's it so known you heard about the snow. No it already started and but you know it wasn't a full on Blizzard Dino The temperatures weren't so freezing that you would not be able to survive especially even if it's true you know and again this is all speculation because just his testimony. I don't know what what to think of it None of it's making any sense to me. Maybe it's making sense to some of you the end if it is let us know You Herbie rematch. Web Sleuths W. E. B. S. L. E. U. T. H. as they are some of the best at looking at these cases aces and you know almost to a person they all claim bowl. You know there's something really off and strange and suspicious is hell about this case. The news reports mentioned. You just look at the comments. I mean it's just everybody says it looks suspicious You know the drug use Houston again. That's public information. So all of these people were were using and this isn't the type of drug your Desta Weekend Warrior. Maybe when you start but In as people have been using this these drugs for quite a while so it's not dislike a little weekend thing it's GonNa be a constant thing the the addiction is so strong and also the withdrawal symptoms are very similar similar to what is occurring here. But it's like I mentioned it's also strangely GonNa be similar to what somebody that's hypothermic is economy shaking a lot in their legs and be shaking but He kept closing his eyes And when when he was in the back of the ambulance is same thing he was. If you guys remember from the detective reports he was able to take off his shoes and pants. Everything was hands and everything were working. He was coordinated sets. If you're hypothermic. You're not gonNA be able to do that so I don't know why. The detectives just took took that and ran with it immediately and ignored all of this information. And what we keep saying that you're going to hear about in the next episode from from the family all of the additional evidence and information that they've been able to gather so I wanNA thank you guys for hearing this. I'm hoping that this interview at least begins to give you some kind of shape or form or in some kind of cohesive timeline or You know his attitude. You know a spotlight on Anthony of who he really is as a person in what he was actually doing and actually sang. Not just what's in those reports on what he's telling the detectives we really do need to get those interviews. We need to get him the video. Oh interviews or minimally DISA- transcript if anything why they do not have that yet. The family is beyond me. this you know. Douglas Douglas County. They have to provide this information. The nine one one call. There's so much the video that they claim the two guys getting Outon Wanting to go up to the forestry boxes but you really can't tell who they are you know well. Why can't we have that video you didn't so we can and see it And again really when it all comes down. What did they even care about? After even jeff is found deceased deceased again. It could happen even place there you could have been pushed there. There's a million different things All they cared about was the force through boxes in the envelopes. They were asking. Can we charge somebody for these through twenty five cents envelopes. That's all they cared about that said and again just closed out the case mysteriously all right so get ready for the family and their theory free and all of the information that they're gonNA throw out. You guys are really going to enjoy that. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you for spreading this word of mouth. The have no wadia how much that means to us. That's that's how we're going to grow. That's how we're GONNA You know be able to be this tool for people as as we mentioned you guys understand how this works our you should in real time that when people go missing we can be talking to the family immediately. The information goes out to everybody. That has the application to. If you don't have it yet go and get the application on You know i-it's on IOS. It's also also on the Google. Play store guesses where you go for androids. I have an iphone so go to the apple store And it's the OWL. Once was lost. Just a missing persons APP. You can't miss it the the best one. There's a few other ones there but this one by far is is the best in is is taken care of by Nick Conway. Who if you listen to the very first episode? I interview him and we talk about how we kind of met and why we decided ready to partner together and this too simple thing that should have been done a long time ago a long time ago. it's not like were you know this. This is magic or anything this is just the simple instead of simplicity just attaching a podcast along to the The applications so that we can talk to the family and get specifics for people to be looking at first hour and how precious it is and I do want to say. Hey that when I've mentioned about the twenty four hour waiting period for eight hours I have to admit that's a lot of that has changed a lot of states aids. Don't have that anymore But regardless this is still always gonna be faster because the family has control over that the churches. There's an example. That child goes missing in a store in a walmart or something and they're looking everywhere and they can't find them they would still have to get on the phone call nine one one make a report to all of these different things before anybody is even beginning to look. Where would this you can upload the information within minutes with the picture? The alert alert goes out and people are searching and there might even be people you know in the store that had this. That's the goal right is to have as many people so as possible tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people with this phone APP minimally and then hopefully have the podcast is well so so that you can be updated with specifics. In details of what's going on and then as I mentioned before that will also be doing coal cases that are our given to us that. Have the best chance at being solved either. By UH gathering the information or by you guys gathering bring information you guys being the sluice and Hopefully we'll be able to get some some closed so that's it for today in and Really appreciate it. Please give those five stars again. I know I know baggy and I keep saying it but just got understand again. It's it's the algorithms for Apple And for Android doesn't matter but the five star rating needs to be clicked. I didn't even care if you to give a four. Whatever it doesn't matter we need those so that people can find the podcast so we can start to be suggested by the algorithms to people as the missing person's application because there really isn't any other ones Available out there I don't see any that are actually live other than the application. But you can't get those like in the podcast so you can go and get the podcast Ed cast and by getting the podcast. Of course we're going to tell you to get the application and vice versa. See other work. So it's it's it's simple But we've got to have those five stars you can then write a review right beneath that. Tell us anything you want Look we're brand new and and again you know you didn't get the greatest recording year. It's a little bit spotty in feel like telling us that. Go right ahead. If you guys have suggestions give suggestions were never going to be a massive production company You know scripted professional voiceover with sound effects. Listen you know come on. I'm I'm just I don't know about you guys but I'm so sick of that. It's it's boring. It's an affront to my I intelligence most of the time to hear any of that and then at the end they don't even give you information on the case if you have leads if you have tips and you know where to send them. You don't hear any of that okay. There are a few good true crime. PODCAST that due provide that information out there I'm not gonNA name on an only because a marketing name. The ones that are bad so it's just not fair but there are some good ones is listened to and I feel that they do justice they do a good job to do justice to the family but the vast majority are taking advantage of of the pain and suffering of these families. And I just don't get it. You know the really old cases cold cases same thing as not any different You know if you're doing something Jeffrey Dahmer or You know any of the big names. That's a little bit different that's More News Type Information Outta mind that people do shows on that a fine at the it is a little bit different All the information is is already out there. Everybody knows it every seen it. There's document documentaries everywhere on those subjects. So excuse me anybody's blended there today. Thank you for listening. Please pass this on to a few friends. Ask them to pass it on to five more and that's again now we're going to grow however GonNa get there. Please give us those five stars at so very very important Once we start getting up there in everybody starts downloading subscribing describing hitting those five stars. I promise I'll shut up about it. Okay you have my word. I'll shut up about it. All right everybody have a great day bye bye..

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OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

12:55 min | 1 year ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"Like I think I remember thinking to myself. Cautious coats really big on him because it was like flopping when he was moving an armed like that and then when we got back to the car he only in really we he he was sitting next to me and I vividly remember this because I thought it was so weird. pull he had. He was complaining on how cold he was. And I only only have two small shirts on any pulled up the one the outer ones and he listed and it was like a long John on their nature and it wasn't wet at all at all and he had a code anymore. But Ho gone and I am here saying that this is really important. This coat was big big on him. Like you know it seem like the wrong size. It was definitely bigger over. Yeah so then But then it goes back to memory and it's like catered. We Really Sinoe Koga. But he wasn't in a t shirt and he was. Yeah Yeah or Jack this is. This is interesting though Well first off because Geoffrey a pretty big guy MM Six Lloyd to forty Anthony I've never asked what How tall and would you say is his way? He was definitely lean average height. Maybe I wouldn't say he was like tall tall. Five eight nine ten a I five five eight or nine sixteen. Maybe we'll like he was the one man so that coat. Yeah it was jeffries definitely would have looked bigger and then I'm just again. This is just speculation that since it's really making me think and then these coming out of the woods really wasn't out there as long as he says making this whole hyperthermic thermic thing going. But he's coming down because he's drinking a beer but of course he's not gonna WanNa be seeing that jacket because because he's going to be asked. Why are you wearing Jeffrey Jacket? If it's Jaffrey jacket again this is all but I haven't heard that before for Until you said that that wasn't in any of the information so yeah it helps a lot And it could mean something could could be nothing. Yeah but Yeah definitely strange All right so back to the the call or anything else that the detectives over with you guys or assing all she can remember Not Awesome I can remember it was very Like wasn't very long. Just like an official like they have have to make the call kind of thing to get it over with. Is that what it felt like. I mean he was he. I don't know he asked question. And then I mean I worry just the part when I was saying that we felt like he was on. You could have been there saying though. He's brushing it off. Yeah Yeah Yeah. They did not treat the family. Well at all All the questions in any time they tried to get any information they completely brush them off. If you're really really bad about that when you hear that sometimes I mean we all love every bond for us to be on ninety nine percent. You know. They're there for US but in every once in a while you know and maybe it's just a small don't force there Yeah like the Mouth Angel Police are would resist from Rose even dogs roads. Clint probably like the burden is probably Roseburg. That would make sense so the way smell. I can maybe even listen to it. Let's see here. I don't that's okay if people ended it though PAT. Pass it on to me if you can figure out a way to Like an MP three be be interested to hear that definitely What they were asking so and that yeah that gets in the nuts? It basically Ben Later it's just picking up news tidbits that you heard. Where did you hear news for you in California? Were when you say on the coast where the Oregon coast. We're here in on the Oregon Coast got got it. I don't know I was thinking California. The Oregon coast great from being in Florida audience thinking Okay yes eatable there. Air To where you guys are are beautiful. We mainly what what brought you guys out there. What what was about the hot springs or anything I don't mean to pry? I'm just interested no and we're actually going for for Valentine's Day. That was our our cool. Yeah and the springs are that cool. I sounds like you spent most of the day. There must have been very cool. They are absolutely beautiful. If you ever get to Oregon I would hide was the degree like what the water like. There's like there's like different pools and they each go from unlike eighty five. Oh honored put depend on which all the different. Yeah well it just goes from the top spring Eland goes down so like autumn cool. Yeah it'd be cooler got it got it. That makes sense. Yeah that does sound beautiful. All right ladies I really appreciate it. the helps had a lot more than you could ever no. No you guys were asking like water. Not How much we didn't help Actually helps a lot because it fills in You know a time. Line there That's so important. Oh and let's get that straight so on Monday just approximately when you saw him the first time you remember about what time that was because we haven't been there just to get roughly awfully ten thirty. Am Yeah I would say probably. Yeah roughly ten and ten ten thirty okay and then the second time. Roughly how Oh it was the longtime actually Reich. We were talking about that because I can see when he message that person on space coca and just a wandering around out there what are you doing yeah and but that was the other all league. Stalling stalling galling people at Auburn in for help him and Ed right any and he denied it didn't want l.. Yeah I I don't understand how this hasn't been the open yet. I really don't think it just needs to get to the right people again. Like I said with all the additional evidence or finding which is crazy. come out in the next episode After people here this one that that you guys will be on Yeah Yeah it's GonNa everything be really super super surprised if all the additional information all the the character the different people that were involved because for Jaffrey I mean from Kansas. Yeah married Haley. His cousin strange wife really Tax Doc she agreed to an interview but then said yes the no the no than yes but I hear that's normal behavior for her And then she gets completely clearly disappeared and of course I can get any of the other. People are all either relatives or friends so again that suspicion. It's just make make things her her her facebook. I wonder could. It's not correct yeah stations. She has to Accounts under for Haley van. What's weird about it? I can't I don't know her maiden name but she just changed. It took Advan when he went missing the grieving wife. changed to Haley Vans. But the other two accounts So I heard I think I found the second one but the first one I have. Okay Yeah I'm not sure it was probably we're on at least two or three the afternoon when we that's a long time to be apt seeing all these people with him being up. They're missing. None of this makes any sense at all All the websites you look at all the news you look at all the comments and every single person to a T. say suspicious what lead Sir very famous. It's a blog site that does stuff like this and they got a lot of Retired detectives this corners and all kinds of stuff. And they all say. There's something wrong here. What that is? I don't know you know again pointing any fingers but but there's just something not right. Okay anything else you you guys can think of would be important. I don't think so not right now. Okay why really appreciate it If you do think of something thing please reach out to me. We're going to be putting all this together so still be at least a few more days before before anything goes live minimally. So do you think of anything at all that now That that might help even at the smallest thing because you never know you really don't You know what can you put together a puzzle. This is weird one weird one. Yeah we put together the application in the our application for missing people and I was thinking of doing something like yet to see guys now and I'd already been podcasting But doing nothing like this but I wanted to get into doing cold cases of missing persons but not like true crime. Because there's so many of those. I don't know if you guys ever listen to podcasts. At all but true crime is so big and to me I feel like the most not all of them. Some of them are good but most of them are taking advantage. If you get my drift of con- like other peoples came and they don't give out any information like at the end like like you know if you have any info call you know this law enforcement officer and it's very sad I I don't know why they can at least do that so anyway. That's what we're really. We focused on specifically and the applications and real time of the trial you have Elderly parent has dementia Alzheimer's begin immediately. Upload them to the real time and then we can be talking to the family like this As fast as possible and Because the the police twenty four hour or forty eight hours depending on the state before I can even right Discussed Life the person being messing and then a lot of times. They just Kinda also like in this case but rightfully so. If it's the big city they get so many runaways. That can't even handle it so they don't really take it seriously unless there's a ton of evidence like a child's been abducted specifically tweet than they might get on it but if not it's even tough to get them to do anything so this is like really the best choice for people You know as a tool to get way way ahead of the game Within an hour and this is the worst stat. I've ever heard it. You don't get to a trial abducted ninety six percent of the time we're going to be found deceased. So that's why that first hour is just.

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OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

12:21 min | 1 year ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"You I mean I don't know you know everybody's different but that's just you know I- pathetically I don't know it's just very last thing I'd be thinking of. And then they did find these tools not far from the truck where they were scattered like just taking off and just has dropped. So it's like they gave up on that idea completely and A bunch more. We won't get in to bother you guys worth it. It doesn't matter it's not important for this so all right so now you guys got him in in your car. You're driving him and I know that I guess you're just having a conversation. You know friendly conversation asking them what was going on With which I don't believe he did say anything more about Jeffrey or especially him being missing that. Hey My friend is missing. He's still in in the woods other than just I was with my friend. And we got what he's saying that just studied they got lost or you remember specifically so at first he was saying how they their truck work down and he didn't know where it was at. I was like well. Where's your friends like? Can we go get him like how. Yeah Yeah Yeah. It's you know it was worrying. That person was out there by themselves so we were He you know he he. He would just saying that he didn't know you know had been days and so I would ask you know. Well how long or what is the lesson him. You know no just and he just kept changing his changing. Yeah days to one day to out. Yeah sorry no totally he arn he was kind of negatives about his brand new probably did at stalling did it seem like he was like stalling for for time to me like not saying anything not really bringing it up because I had also heard that as he was coming down he stopped at. Somebody's home home and ask for the ranger station. But that's it didn't say anything about Jaffrey. Missing is one where the ranger station was. So big I pointed it out and then there was one other place I think a trailer home or something. Somebody don't ask the same thing but he never did go to the ranger station as we all know. Obviously I don't know why kept asking for this but to me it's it's almost like just stalling for something. Yeah it was. And then he he kinda he started talking about how stupid and the thought that native naught You know any talking crap about and then he went. It was so weird. He went off on how they were. You could feel like money out of the boxes that yeah I was going to get to that too. Yeah that's weird just you know. Just a few doesn't even know you and then he wants you to stop and by break into these forestry boxers or something tax money helping like he knew he needed help to right not urgency not being there in more of getting the help if that makes no that makes complete sense. I mean your friend is still up in the woods lost somewhere and who knows what kind of condition and like you said. Yeah just went. Went from that to nothing not a care in the world have enough time to start freaking you get money Asked you guys said before that I mean God's aid ask you have been lost up there. Would you have a couple of dollars you know for me to make a call or did he ask anything like that. Before is first option being. Let's break into boxes. She did not So I I write in you know. We agreed greed athletes start talking. We offered him. We had water. Pop Beer sandwiches we had. I mean we were. We had everything he took career and corn nuts. And I was so bad I was like. Oh that's really weird. I and I offered him again after he grabbed rugby. Sign that you're not hyperthermic either. You're grabbing a beer and then if you're also coming down you might WanNa grab that you're to to help become down to think about because it was Mickey's beer so like you know so I don't know thinking good somewhat. You're right but anyway yeah. He almost like he's making. That's what I was going to get to that later but yeah it's like he's trying too hard slipping back and forth between two different rules of being upset panicked but then like you said. Let's talk about that war again. Where he's talking ended up Jeffrey? Then he stooped this the say like they had been fighting or anything or what even brought up the point of him being a jerk run ass or he was. He was talking about something about how his cousin is married to Jeffords. Data I can't I I honestly yeah. I'm not really sure exactly but he was. Yeah I gotTA visiting so you're not going to know any of these. Yes so the cousin or whomever it was a dumb ass for dating him and or married him. I don't know so it I don't really know what it brought it up. He just kind of went off. Yeah and again strange thing to say because you're supposed to be really tight good friend Yang and again if they're missing that's the last thing I would be thinking of and left. It was brought up in a way that he was just really upset over what was going on something which is kind of just releasing it or saying that Jeffrey something to get law against missing. He wasn't really worried about Jeff like it wasn't like a secondhand thought. Were we would bring it up and he would comment but it already been anything he probably would not have said anything kind of thing it was more. We pushed him for information and he would love to give and only think adapt applewhite. You would have had to of if if anything suspicious because you know if you keep asking these out saying anything I mean maybe those two other people he could get away with just because it was just a quick you know hey. Can you point me to the ranger station. You know. That's it Not Hey a mark of an out your days and because right away the I'm sure those people would have been well but let's call nine one one I People lost out your days Are you have you been out here with anybody else. You know. So sounds like he didn't put himself in that position to even be able to be asked questions But he's making sure that he's being seen coming down the mountain Unless he really didn't know how come down. I don't know that to speculating. Course I wait for me to know Okay so you get to the to the store and I think from what I read. You guys did loan him a little bit of money. Yeah it's ten dollars off message to girlfriend using our cell phone on Facebook Messenger. drippy didn't know where number still not the police girlfriend your girlfriend. Yeah and that time she called and we are still driving down and they talked for. I don't know how Mitt Yeah ten minutes maybe five minutes and then sketched out. I catch anything thing in that conversation. Was it just just him just talking. Nothing again about Jeffrey. Nothing about he. He didn't say much about him that he couldn't find him he would. He was missing but he was. He was more worried about getting back to his girlfriend. Yeah back while they with how we're I don't know he told us where they live and in Roseburg nother. Yeah the town Eh. Continue driving him. Yeah at that after that. I'm sure door. He took a a pop pop. We gave him like ten Buck Ken. aww And he's there so again the caller to let her know that we would not take any body know about the beer. That is interesting on rented up again said so he take with an any food with. Could you say you cord nuts and I had the corner of a beer. Yeah it was. It was close is to Valentine's Day so I literally had like Ham rose any kind of meat. Royal Food A SMORGASBORD and he and I kabeer encor nuts and I was like well and like we have become offering water food water. Hold water store. And he didn't want anything. Yeah Yup the for days I mean because there's not a Lotta water sources. You can't eat snow. You know that again. I'm sorry and then he was really mad that we wouldn't dryden further when we owe like made his girlfriend's house or yeah. Yeah when when I told him when I let him know that we were going to have to stop at the store and leave him there he like. I wouldn't say upset set. The officer asked me like well. What do you need up to them? Just got right. Yeah we were going to help him anymore. No no no. I'm glad you didn't see knows. I mean that's already super strange behaviour. I told you You waited did Until the police got there I guess at some point he did know all we actually just let him in there And then we say another night and Roseburg another city Like oh car. That's the bigger wrong right on a little bit bigger and then got the home that day the next day and Jamie was contraband contacted by a deputy or start. Oh County so so that when we found out that the friend was still missing and that missing a personal report was being filed and then they then they interview you asking you these questions. Yeah about our conversation. We told them. Basically what we told you. Arkansas and they said it was hypothermia and that was normal and then it's been normal and they never said it they like it seems suspicious or anything seems suspicious to you the asset. Well the cops that we thought he was sketchy and suspicious suspicious. He kind of brushed off saying it was always just hypothermia and when we said Oh he wasn't why or anything. Am I not asking mentioning or saying anything about his friend. Being missing time you saw him. He didn't have a jacket off. So that was it off. And it wasn't with him like he was holding it. It was just gotten so go away the first time you saw the ad the jacket come down the second time he didn't it was totally. It was gone completely when the when we passed him the first time I remember him kind of like you know when you get colds holding you kind of like shake your arms up and down. Yeah.

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"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

12:54 min | 1 year ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"All right everybody welcome. I'm to the owls once was lost. PODCAST with the continuing ballad of Jeffrey Vance. So we're moving into into episode three. The one that I feel is the most important to date We obviously will have an additional episode with all of those theories from the family which is going to blow this up because of all of the additional evidence that they have found concerning this case that they've been able to collect but unfortunately the Douglas Cownie any Sheriff's Office is. I don't know if they're playing games or what's going on. But they are not providing riding the information which is Really Freedom of information at this point. It's a closed case but to get the audio of the interviews The people that were interviewed when they were considered at least suspects or people of interest to begin with along along with the nine one. One call you know so that would be really nice to have right now. So we're going to work on getting that stuff and so so possibly even have an additional episode after We speak with Angela and Jennifer Jeff sister in Kayla his best friend so on and so forth on their theories but right now we're focused on the two women that really..

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"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

09:49 min | 2 years ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"Before. I'm sure Yup absolutely yes or if you have kids guys near listen to this in you. Don't download this application that. Do not think that this cannot happen to you in and I know that that's usually the the problem. Psychologically with these types of issues because the last in the you I think It's it's a horrible situation but you've you've got to accept that. It does not discriminate in K.. It does not matter if you're rich or poor or your ethnicity you or your sex. It doesn't matter A this can happen to anybody at any time in a motte saying that scare anybody. This is just the truth so you know this is just the simplest thing you can do. It only takes a minute. Download that APP the Go subscribe to the podcast. So you know it's there for you gotTa make the decision to to do it. I'm Komo news was something real quick because I'm sure a lot of people are gonNA think this and it's something that I thought of as well that can happen but obviously somebody reporting. Somebody's being missing but they're not they're pulling a hoax or is there. Is there any way to prevent that. I don't think there really is hundred percent way to to prevent that. I don't think that there there is really. We have to hope that everyone is using the service As it's intended to get everyone excited were worried about a person. That really isn't missing.

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

16:08 min | 2 years ago

"once" Discussed on OWL Once Was Lost Podcast

"It can can be a runaway. It can be a person with the that's mentally challenged a person with dementia And our worst fears abducted child again. The key word here is real time and We'll explain that nickel. Explain that to you kind of how that works and you know why he created the APP just wanted to make a real quick announcement that our last episode for a I pull up a few podcast on the Bethel Baptist boys and girls home called series where it is waiting for my co host Jessica. Unfortunately she had broken leg was much worse than they thought it was. So she's been in the hospital for a few weeks so everybody can. Yeah send some some prayers and good vibes her way as she gets better soon. We'll get back on in them. We'll get that episode out. Everybody because I know everything was is building up to that last episode and we really do. We've got some absolutely incredible things to explain to you there about about the The caller experience in the escape and all how that ended up so anyways nick. How're how you doing hi? I'm good how are you doing the good. Hello everyone thanks for having me on through and get well soon Jessica a thank you thank. You shall hear that too. She will. So Nick as I said is the creator of the application portion. Shen of.

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