20 Burst results for "Oliver Stone"
Game Theory Podcast
"oliver stone" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"I'm gonna take time. We're talking about a lot of guys that are going to schools and Alabama, especially where the guard play is so dominant and that they don't have time right now for these guys necessarily get as much burn on the floor and it might be they're getting their reps in practice and playing ten to 12 minutes a night, but not enough to really put themselves on NBA radars, I'd guess. Yeah. All right, I think that's it. I'm telling you, I'm ready for the three hour long podcast on the movie JFK when you are. Yeah, I don't know if I'm the guy to deep dive into Oliver Stone movies. So that's a few drives back and forth to work. Yeah, watch that movie this week. What a wild film. The fact that that movie exists is just a lot of people think that's what actually happened to. That's the crazier part for me. Yeah. I love the movie. I genuinely love it, but it's a fucking wild ride. And then I watch the other matrix movies. The most like the matrix matrix reloaded, Laura and I are watching matrix revolutions again tonight. Just there just hasn't been anything good that's like really come out over the last month. I'm sorry, guys. Hold on. Did you watch on Netflix untold crime and punishment on the Danbury trashers, hockey team? No, I haven't yet. That's the whole work assignment. It's incredible. Honestly, I was laughing about the whole time. Okay. I'm in on that. Do you know that? Do you know the corporate backstory? No. The caliente family, go on to not kill it. In Connecticut, have like these loose apparent like mob ties. And he buys his son, a hockey team, and the UH L I believe, the Danbury pictures. And it is may have resorted mayhem, but it is mayhem, who's a sign, how they operate paying guides on the table. It was quite an hour and a half. It was one of those moves on Netflix where I didn't know if we're grabbing it. It grabbed me and didn't let go. It's always over. Love that journey. I watched malignant, the James Wan horror that just came out. It's fine. Like, it was a yes for me. I would recommend it if people like horror movies. Definitely a bit like a 80s like B movie vibe, but like trying to be a B movie? Right, the poster or not the poster, I guess like the promotional shot and the font made it look like it was kind of like shooting for that? Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty good. I also did kind of like Kate, which is on Netflix. What's the one with Mary Elizabeth Winstead, where she's the assassin? Oh, I did see that, yeah. And he watched it, I physically saw it, yeah..
The Moratorium
"oliver stone" Discussed on The Moratorium
"Won't will never watch. So bob clark movie with dom deluise man loose cannons. Looks really bad bob clark that yes what i sell. I haven't like wish you could see the look on my face. I'm confused and angry. shit. I wanna say. That was one that. I saw a theater to that little small theater. Taloqan think i've ever seen that stayed away. Yeah you should honky tonk man. Susan peretz was in honky. Tonk may as miss maud then. That is definitely not who i'm thinking of. We get a picture of her from that is not so recent. did we ever look at honky tonk. Man that's clint eastwood. Yeah clark we just talked about matt clarke today. Barry corbin yet. Tim thomason tim thomason tracy walters down at the bottom gary grubbs. He's that guy in the oliver stone. Jfk he's one of the eh. Looks weirdly like one of the kennedy's yes he does. Get that smile. Tracey walter plays second pooch today. A second pooch remers jerry. Hardin plays snuffy. That's i think this is loosely based on a country guy like george jones or like a sure. Bet there's something like trivia on this year there is said. Clint eastwood played his guitar work and performed his own vocals for the movie. Sondra locke with kyle eastwood acting coach for the smoke. He just stood there. We've really on her on this podcast. And i don't know if that is warranted. I'm still going to laugh. It doesn't matter. I'm i'm we so make fun of everybody. So our girls susan peretz. She was in a movie. I got lost. God you devil yet is eighteen. Eighty four george burns was like a household name for for sure. He lived to be one hundred. He made a resurgence in his nineties. And i don't know how he lived so long a cigars. I guess he lived on cigar. That was the joke you know. That was like his stick is that he's literally ancient. Yaojie was and that's oh god you devil. He played both god and the devil rancher. Yeah you see ron. Silver is not at that weird had saw runs. Can't not look at them. Since we just brought up ron silver i gotta get a hold of somebody at imdb. It'd be like. Did you know that the silvers have show so again. We literally go anywhere. Do you know that there is someone credited as vomit creature in poltergeist too. I don't remember it like crawling around. i guess. Did you also know that they use like hr gaiger designs to make that. That tequila worm monster. Did they awesome. I never want to see coach like that. Again and vomiting up this big giant worm bizarre. I started looking at eugene roach..
Keep It!
"oliver stone" Discussed on Keep It!
"We're we're very precious about it. Because the idea came from us to like eric pearson roads is extraordinarily. Script is really good. Really tight really funny and then they did let us play along and at the end of that scene in particular there had been a different exit out of it and florence and i in rehearsals came up with this idea that you know i wanted to capture this idea about him that he you know. He's a he's a terrible father. He's a terrible narcissist who can't see the other at all at this point in his life. And i think it's because of the tremendous guilt and remorse. That he has that he's just become his bombastic idiot. Who has to like plows through other people but i wanted him to have moments in ohio when he was a real dad he was trying to be a real data and so i came up with this idea that when she would have trouble falling asleep because when they got there i think she was three years old and she was like four years old shoes. A baby i thought like oh here. She is transitioning to this new country and she couldn't fall asleep until i would put her in the back seat of the car and just drive around and play like a song and i was like i went to great. You know tom. great song. And it becomes transitional object for her so that when we reunite much later all he can really do is say look. I did some things. And i tried some things and i know this is week and i know this is horrible but this was all i was capable of doing. And can you forgive me. And is all within the lyric within that song in that moment with her and it's so complex rather than the simple exit from that scene with his bluster about red guardian. Or something there. Was this moment that we crafted in rehearsals. And then so when we got there yet we were super neurotic about like really like this take and that tecoma but i was pleased with the way they put it together because i do think it's it's one of those things where you know. There's certain family things that happened between us. The can't be expressed in words. I mean i don't know whether i'm angry or sad or happy about certain moments that happened. In my childhood they exist these super three dimensional complicated things and that for the two of them was their entire upbringing. And so you know it was great. Eric allowed us and kate allowed us to. Really enriched experiences but yeah those are the most resin wants to where it's not even expressed some more does not even a line or like some of you it just this weird relationship if i wrong to find it mind blowing that you got to quote unquote play around in rehearsals. When i think of movies of this stature. I think of like the layers and layers of approval that probably go into every word in the script. So were you surprised that you could be playful that you've got to make these options. I mean i was surprised about the entire process. But as i say like even that audition process like i'm sure you hear lots of stories you say where it's like. Oh i auditioned you know and then this and then we had to do and for me. It was like an indie movie from the start. And i mean gate just approaching me and being like rachel vice like really working on this and and we talked about the movie the savages. We talked about like the british office. Ricky to raise the british office. We've talked about little miss sunshine. All these little like in the family comedies. That have like real pain behind them. And then we got into rehearsal. You do see this machine behind. But it's a testament to her strengths as a director where she was very kind to people but she was also very intent on making her movie. Which is what they hire to do. But sometimes in the midst of these machines as i'm sure you can see in the films and as you can you know. I'm sure you know it's like they hire you to do this thing. And then they're immediately like wait. A minute wait a minute. We're mcdonald's we make a certain hamburger. Don't mess her up. Don't play around with that hamburger too much. and. I think that kate was very much. Like i'm gonna mess around with the hamburger. I like everybody was like not. And she's like know i am so you know. I think she had to go through all these hoops. But you kept all of that away from us and she really made her movie. And that's one of the most things most proud of is that it is a marvel. Movie checks all box is fantastic but it also is a cate shortland move. Feel that when. I watched third and i to say you just brought up the savage meaning the laura linney philip seymour hoffman movie which people should see. I feel like that's like a forgotten movie from the two thousand so everybody going pick that up louis. He clearly met the oliver stone. One one about drug running your face pay not that one. You said the dot com era jenkins. Yeah what's interesting is Even the way you talked about that scene with florence. It's interesting i was like. Oh just david have kids the way he talks about. This sounds like he's a father. And then i remember you have been apparent for years on stranger things and so what what even has that. Part of your career been like. It's almost like you've been like in a mentor role on set for years and now you're not in that when you're in other projects the mentor thing. Onset is as frustrating as it is to be an actual parent. I am now a stepfather to to incredibly amazing girls and eight year old a nine year old but and that is you know an extremely rewarding experience and also an extremely frustrating because children are children and if there are any good at what they do and who they are. They're going to be what they are and who they are. They're not going to be what you tell them to be. I mean that is like the biological point of children to not listen to their parents. And i think that in the same sense the stranger things crew has some similar qualities. I mean i-. I worried about them. I tried to instill in them. What i thought were the most salient components of not only human being but an actor The richest sort of vein of that art is to me. You know focused on the art inside you as opposed to you in the art. I would should do that as best. I couldn't. you know kids have to go on their own journey. And so i would worry about them and i would try to do as best i can. And also it's an exercise in letting go and it's an exercise in realizing the limitations of your power and luckily that was mirrored in the actual character himself. So as i experienced things those kids hopper itself also experienced Candidates seem to mainly about the limitations of power in terms of a relationship with a child. And so i got incorporate all of this and it still continues to be somewhat of that. But i get to incorporate all this stuff but i will say the predominant theme of mentorship and parenting is fulfilling very very frustrating. Also i have to ask While you're here i imagine you're quarantine is with lily allen one of my favorite musicians at i just have to imagine living together. It's like no coward's hay fever certainly got the actor. And then you've got you know musician ad i like your version version probably more than ours but yeah i mean whatever she's great. I'm glad you like her. She i you know i. We don't get the listening to her music. I'll say she doesn't like to do that. Oh wow you think. She's so funny and brilliant and lovely And then you know you throw the kids into that mix and it's just like you know i mean it's the classic sitcom domestic insanity and then you know we're in a pandemic and we. We had to get out of london because her upstairs neighbor was you know. We're in a flat there. There was coughing all night in the upstairs. And i was like we gotta get the hell out of this building until we go out to the countryside of england and she has in this weird way. British people have friends that own. Like castles and shit. Like that's just like you will be like you'll be like. Oh yes my friend like butler now. You're like okay so we went out and rented a wing of someone's like weird art house castle and yes stayed there for the pandemic with these kids and being lily just watched a lot of tv and watch the enormous spiders crawl out of the stonewalls and onto our couch. Plumbing and heating terrible but Visually stunning where we spent the pandemic But yeah she's a blast. I love her. So i don't know if it's exactly.
The Nick Taylor Horror Show
"oliver stone" Discussed on The Nick Taylor Horror Show
"Oh it's hard you know contractor coming in you know going you know. Oh my god. I'm gonna do a two story and this is gonna be great boulevard. Here's my idea it's like you know. Here's the thing whatever. I need thirty percent down here. Our artists are so emotional. Want it so bad right. Yeah we just love it so much and there's people that take advantage of that big time. Yeah i'm sure of it. Yeah yeah in matthew mcconaughey as autobiography green lights which is amazing super. Oh it's awesome. I I actually got right audible. Yeah i have it on audible and you can listen to him. Read it which is fantastic. I have the heart but it's such a good book. But in the beginning he was talking about when he first entered. Hollywood he was talking to somebody like man. I gotta get an agent. I need an agent. Like whoa whoa. Whoa whoa you're entering hollywood. You can't need anything. Hollywood is not something that thrives you said on desperation and on need enter it and if you have that desperate energy is like kryptonite to the people who actually can give you a green light. You know you're right you're so right. He's right yeah It it's funny because I remember one of my scripts options producer. I was in college and you know and he he was paying me like you know like monthly. You know. I mean he was very nice on that on that. But i remember getting that option and i was like perpetuity. Does that mean you know and it's like forever forever fair you know though. I've had my share big time. Yeah and you just. You can't be desert. I read oliver stone's book and that was a great. But you need to read that book guy. He's on the phone by the way john. Daly who produced the salvadoran He's gonna produce one of my scripts. I met him in a vessel that the drop played and He he hit it off and john. Daly the terminator man though. But i didn't know the back story of john daly to and that was something i would go up there every day in his office and work for free you know and there is a point. I've got now a wife and kid at home. And i was going to stick with me as john. Daly then you cushy read in oliver stone's book that's what's happened with john dankworth cameron's talked about it and he was prepping..
Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"oliver stone" Discussed on Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"For well as i imagine regular listeners of my podcast will know both documentary and the new book coming out at some point later this year but guarantee exactly when because both are not quite finalized yet but yeah i mean keep an eye on my site spy culture dot com because there's always more content than i'm doing coming out and there's a few major things in the pipeline book in the documentary that i think are already something special. I've really especially with the book because of had more control over. I'm not directing. The documentary really tried to push the boundaries of of what. It's possible to say about these kinds of things and in particular the whole government entertainment media relationship but yeah nothing sort of imminent. I i for one of them very excited to see the documentary and the book. So i I hope you'll come back and chat with us Again and talk about those when that finally comes around oh of course. of course. I love to you I'm actually really interested to hear what you have to say about both of them because as always when we discuss. I mean we're coming from a similar place in that we're quite similar people but we have such different backgrounds and experiences and so it's it's always fascinating for me and i'm always learning staff and i'm guessing it's the same for you that we have. I don't know why this is. We have this natural kinship in u Given that we come from quite different places. What have you but we do. And that's a great thing to have and yeah love talking to you man and looking forward to the next one to feelings absolutely absolutely mutual brother. I really enjoy these talks. We have and we Just to let everybody know Tom and i now have a A monthly recording spot. So hopefully you'll be hearing quite a few more of these Time goes on. So thanks again to kim tom. We'll.
Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"oliver stone" Discussed on Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"Of my life so i can only imagine that for people from any side of that conflict. This film can help them. You know it's useful to them. It can map out a path beyond the usual answers to these things because all too often. I mean you see this. This is a terrible place to source anything to be honest but you see this a lot of read it right. Anyone has any kind of emotional problem on reddit. It's oh you need therapy. And then you'll solve your emotional problem and it's like yeah okay therapy. I'm not trying to dismiss therapy here at all. It can be very useful to a lot of people for lots of reasons but most of the time what you get out of. It is better ways of dealing with your emotional troubles. Rob van understanding and completely overcoming them. i mean it does depend how deep those troubles lie. I mean if if it's some relatively surface thing then you may be able to totally overcome it. But when it's something deep like this you know guilt and grief in what we've been discussing throughout this whole conversation. Those things never can be truly overcome. What you can do is find a way to you. Say get some peace if you can not feel like that most of the time that certainly a hell of a lot better than feeling like that most of the time. so that's what happens in terms of leila's arc. In the in the story in the end she does get some degree of peace in resolution and so we the audience. It's you set up top. It's a very cathartic. Movie has a lot of actually that much blood in this film. But there's like there's a lot of mud of almost in place if the blood there's a lot of dirty next film and more importantly there's an awful lot of pain but there is also of inspiration to compaction. It's very hard. I can imagine for most people who actually sat through this whole film rather than the ones that you mentioned earlier. Who would like teddy off twenty minutes in because she's just some you know call me peasant or whatever for anyone else they must have come away from this feeling of being more compassionate person feeling more compassion understanding these things better and being provoked to actually carry that forward to not just say. Oh that's the end of the movie and that's the lesson and then you forget about it the following day to actually make a difference to people in just the same way as a platoon and born on the fourth did. But i think even more so because it's such an unusual and unexpected movie. No one else would have made a film like this except oliver stone. Let's say no one no one would even thought to. And that's a testament to the man of course that he was willing and at that point career when he was really quite hot offs oscar winning film director oliver stone and he was like nah. Fuck it. I'm going to tell this story that you know. Even if it's a commercial failure for the people who do get to see it. It will be so cathartic and therapeutic. The that's the value of it that it's important as a movie and.
Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"oliver stone" Discussed on Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"Another consumer in that way but finding it. 'cause there's there's no there's no spirit in that there's no connection that and she was willing to go back to these places you know. She went back to see said. Hey i'm with you. I'm in this. I i know it's hard but i'm not gonna. I'm if you're looking for somebody to give up. It's it's it's not going to be me. And as she makes those steps for herself and and ultimately coming back and making peace with her village her family that That she did do the hard work of getting that that little drop of of a good ending you know we want you know if we wanna coined it as a good ending in that way But that the that the The nature of being pulled between two two polls wasn't going to go away but that she had attempted to accept her place in it You know sometimes the more powerful thing isn't the you know the recovery in and of itself. It's that someone shows to go for it. They chose that. I was going to do this. And you know that. It was hard. And i went through a lot of stuff for it but i'm better because of it you know. Even it was hard even if it tore my soul apart. You know that that that And it's not to say it was easy you know. I think some people make that make that typical error of thinking that. If i just say the magic words if i say you know i forgive them more or this or that that it it comes with its own set of benefits like that. And it doesn't it. Doesn't you know resentment against the enemy missing your fallen comrades All of the damage. That can be done to the human soul in the context of war. You know we never put any of those things down and so. I think that all over did a good job of mapping those two things together at the end that there was you know there was some piece. It wasn't complete total peace but there was some that she found. And that we as the you know. The western world Viewing media like this that we need to be More willing and able to accept those those harsh realities and to dive into it earnestly which is something that most americans don't do We have this very very detached view of our history of our you know we cling to the heroics and shunned the bad things and if we do admit bad things. They were bad eggs. They were bad apples. They're not so it was not something that that anyone could have done anything about which isn't true in in the slightest but i think yeah. I think oliver did a good job. Putting those two together that there was a a modicum of peace and the understanding that it goes on that it doesn't end it doesn't end for any any combat. I don't think it deal with it in in one way or another well and just like his previous films but even more so with this one. It's very therapeutic. I imagine a lot of people i mean. I don't even know anyone directly. Who fought in vietnam on any. I don't have any personal connection to that war and yet i found it therapeutic. It a war. That happened before i was born. An that doesn't sort of send me personally. Mean an awful lot to be How much it might mean politically and in other..
Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"oliver stone" Discussed on Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"Yeah. I mean it's not it's not the most satisfying of endings and i don't mean that in the sense that it because the resolution is uneasy. I think you couldn't finish this movie with a simple easy resolution. You can write some resolution but it's always going to be somewhat uneasy difficult one but also just simply because how on earth do you finish a story like this. No matter what ending they chosen. I think i would come away feeling a little bit like. Yeah but i just wouldn't have been entirely satisfied with it I don't think you can ever end a story like they an entirely satisfactory way and you shouldn't because real life does go on home and you know all of the real people that were actually depicted in this film They're all that lives carried on after the events of the movie finished. So as to the whole yeah. This is what i was saying about the moral exchange this switching between heaven and earth. This the way things keep changing roles switching sides throughout the course of the movie not only does illustrate to that. In fact to a large extent that notion of being on opposing sides is actually a deception willing self-deception of cases while it may also simaltaneously be pragmatic necessity that you have to pick a side because there are two sides because so many people believe in this deception it becomes a reality so that you have to choose and that's something very much comes up in this movie to practically every moment be honest like i say this notion of immoral exchange that you can even in dire circumstances you still have some degree of choice and you can choose either the if you like negative self protective almost isolationist approach to things or you can try and maintain human bonds spiritual and emotional bonds that ultimately like what else really is there of meaning in life and even though that will sometimes be hurtful and dangerous and it will make you vulnerable. Better things will come from that after the pain and the fear you will find a more profound bond. And that's something that is almost sacred or perhaps is sacred. So you see what i mean. It's not as simple as actions have consequences but it is. If you choose a more if you like masculine you know shut off somewhat paranoid and fearful and hostile approach to things that will ripple out into other areas of your life. You will face some degree of consequence from that likewise if you choose the other approach and so there is always sort of exchange between your choice and the consequences of it whether it's for you and whether it's for someone else and going back to what we were saying about steve guy at least in part kills himself because he doesn't want to cause someone he loves to suffer Of course by killing himself he causes her to suffer so again. This notion of an exchange. That's at the core of this. And i think what he may what oliver stone may have been trying to say by telling this story is that.
Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"oliver stone" Discussed on Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"Now. We're getting to the to the end of the film here. Did she know. She returned to vietnam when she was older. Wasn't there another trip that she made When her sons were still younger Or was am. I think it's all one together. I'm trying to remember. No as i recall lows are supposed to be two separate trips to moments or at least. That's how i remember the fell when we both of us could be missed remembering but yeah i think so So she goes back to vietnam and she finds her mom in a in a very decrepit state Having having physical issues of kinds and her mom tells her that she's She's a ghost that essentially that in for their culture that Her spirit is being seen by their ancestors. I think that was what she was trying to cross and her brother has. He's he's returned from his time fighting with the the and he is very angry and bitter about The damage done To vietnam bike by the americans and also that that finding his mom in this porn workable state and he and he lays that lee. he lays that. You know that that you know we could have done more if you were here. Why did you leave us. Why did you abandoned us. I don't know that she coins it that way but that that was where it's going. Yeah yeah and then some years later she makes a second trip her her her mom has passed but she brings her sons and they go to her village and it's a very different experience than the first time you know. People are are happy to see her happy to see your kids. No one her mom had already had already Passed away and there's a you can see there. You know this whole thing and her introducing her son to people in her village and and that there there was a a reconnection for her there.
Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"oliver stone" Discussed on Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"But you see that in him and you see the choice that he made in the end. It's hard for me to say the words that suicide could be shown as choice of love. But that's how it felt to me. That's that's what it was is that he knew that these burdens weren't just his burdens. They weren't going to remain his burdens. They were going to be the ones of his of his wife of his children and he didn't at that moment had no idea what he was going to do about them. What did you think about that tom yet. I mean that's kind of how i interpreted that. He almost a primary. I mean there's no never any single one reason why someone kills themselves. It says you know there's a whole bunch of stuff there but yeah i saw it as perhaps the primary reason why he does. It is not to end his own suffering. Which is like you say. Wrong but understandable It's because he doesn't want caused her to suffer and this comes so shortly after she goes and has that conversation about sold at it like you say their fates are intertwined and again. This is a metaphor fairly obvious metaphor. This film is wearing metaphor openly that this is actually about two countries. Not just two people that if you don't give people a chance to try and resolve things or try and make things better. You're not just denying yourself. You're not just perpetuating your own resentment in your own suffering in a way but you're doing that to them as well because they have no opportunity i mean. What do you expect them to do. But self destruct kind of circumstance and that is obviously then what happens and so. It's tying in something very personal. This is ultimately about one man killing himself because he either salt lake a combination of things. He can't take anymore and he want to inflict on the people. He loves anymore.
Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"oliver stone" Discussed on Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"But i i think that he did Any tells her some of the horrible things that that he did over there Very specifically very You know that that. I'm you know i'm sharing baseball stats. But this is the things that i went through and He asks himself you know maybe he's he's not losing his mind about learning to become a killer and that even there he he even at one point points the barrel at himself and then it it takes it a interesting turn here where she she shares some of her dirt on the time that she was working with the bbc and she coins it different different skins. Same suffering in in terms of the the overarching idea of them trying to deal with their their work crimes. How they how. They're perceiving what they did was was wrong or unacceptable in that it weighs on them similarly on to a conversation that would have happened between You know to war vets This is between man and woman husband and wife and and you can see that they have a good a good moment there and then they continue fighting stevens up kidnapping Two of their sons and he holds having them with him over her head to try to have the divorce that she was seeking a thrown out. And then then they talk about the The concept of soul debt. And i have a little quote here. Wanna read about that. And so she goes to her her Priest at the at the buddhist temple. And she's trying to figure out what to do next. You know she. She's looking for some guidance in some hopefully some hope and he tells a the priests after hearing what she has to say tells her quote he is created much sold at for himself. But if you fail to give him the opportunity to redeem himself you will only your own sold The man hate that blinds. You will blind any man you find in a future life. If you turn steve away you will be rejecting your own redemption child. You have forgiven the man who raped you destroyed. Your country harmed your family and this is how it should be. Your karma is mix with steve the future the past role the same. If you divorce you will only have to come back again and work it out again. The pastor navonna is never being safe but tricky steep. And if you walk only on sunny days you will never reach your destination. Choose well my peach bossom.
Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"oliver stone" Discussed on Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"Anyone has seen this film in relative terms. And like i say in some ways it's the best of the bunch So i hope. I guess where really going with this is also the. I hope that anyone who hasn't already seen heaven and earth for hasn't seen in a long time like i haven't before i re watched it so that we could have a conversation. Go back and give it a rewatch. There is so much in this movie. That's great and there is so much in it that is provocative and will hopefully bring out the best in you. Because i know. I keep mentioning the word compassion. But that's what this film is. It's an extremely compassionate film and if it helps inspire people watching it to be more compassionate and that's a bloody good thing. We have far far too many war films that compassionate as a at best Ah faraway secondary character if it's mentioned at all And i think that they should create more films like this especially to understand the cyclical nature of war and what it does to people over multiple generations. So the next big thing in the story is steve. And steve is a He's a essex marine stationed near near inside honored or near saigon and trying to remember. I wanna say they saw each other on the street first and then he liked tracked her down later and had to find out where she where she was at. And there's this this really long we wanna call it a courtship but a a period were. She doesn't really want anything to do with him. She believes that he's you know just another gi that he probably wants sex and nothing else. And steve goes out of his way to demonstrate that he. He's genuine that that. What what you see is what you get. That he cares for her cares for her son and you can see her trying to you. Know that the her fighting that impulse of of wanting to put any trust in him you know. She's got into this place where she is. She's she's kind of protecting herself in her son. But it's it's a very tight circle in there. There is a room for stephen and he you know he really demonstrate that to our over over time and one exchange that they had. That was really powerful to me. And we've we've already touched on it a little bit but that she mentions about that. Americans don't care about their ancestors that they don't they don't care what they do to the world now. Americans historically speaking we have a very tight rigorous ranked ancestry that that most americans cling to. You know our founding myths and such but they don't come full circle and understanding not just what those men said but what they really you know their actual live lives and the destruction that came with that and steve like like me when i joined the army. I'm sure many people when they joined the military that that's the that's the ancestry if we want to call it that they carry with them but they don't carry with them. You know being deployed to iraq. They don't carry with them. What the us military has done there. Over the last fifty to seventy years which absolutely should fit into that history. You see this very clear. Contrast between the two of them and steve steve does have some good redeeming qualities. But he doesn't. He doesn't look at life in that same way that she does. She doesn't he doesn't have have the long view of of understanding those things he tells her very specifically that he's looking for an oriental wife that is that is the reason i mean he cares for her shows shows for that stuff but that is his his ultimate goal..
Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"oliver stone" Discussed on Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"She is not quite you understand what she's trying to do. and why. and even if you think. I wouldn't have done that in that situation or whatever doesn't really matter it's big again it. Is this much more feminine to storytelling where it's more about understanding. Why people do the things they do. And what's important to them and that carries throughout this whole section. It's not just the practical pragmatic challenge of. I've got a like you say to myself or to feed my kids and everything but also the challenge jove figuring out what it is that she she really wants in this situation because she's up to that point kind of just been parachuted into this. Most of most of the major things that have happened were not her fault and one of her choosing And then you say you get this situation with two. G is offering her this extraordinary amount of money to prostitute herself. Essentially and yeah. What choice would you making the situation. It's very difficult to know. It's ammunition kind of impossible to know until you're actually in it. I guess and that sense really came through that very down to earth human sense of well. You can't pick and choose the situation around you. You can only pick and choose your own responses to it and which opportunities or whatever come your way you actually try and pursue and again. I i mean i really sympathized with throughout all of this but also enjoyed watching. It enjoyed watching someone go through that maturing and that realization you know her choices really matter and and that she has some because up until that point she doesn't really have that many choices and that's yeah. I just had a great affection for that part of the movie. Not just because it made me laugh but because it's something i think we've all found ourselves in that at some point in our life. Not quite like what she had to go through. But something akin to that of where you you realize you're in a fairly desperate situation of some kind or another whether it be financial emotional whatever but that you do ultimately have some degree of choice and you have some degree of power no matter how much chaos surrounding you and it's just a beautiful thing a beautiful story to tell because of that because it's about things that it's not just about the vietnam war at all. It's about so much more than that and things that i think. Almost anyone certainly beyond the age of like thirty or something possibly even younger would be able to relate to this. And it's by far the least of oliver stone's vietnam films..
Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"oliver stone" Discussed on Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"That's not quite what. I'm trying to say that he appreciates. He feels the pain of what has happened but that he can't in any way you give into it because he knows it's probably coming again. Yeah and of course that is exactly what then happens and we all know watching this film. Anyone doubt there's anyone watched this film who isn't at least somewhat familiar with the vietnam war and the at least that happened. They know it's coming again. We all know his prediction. His sort of intuition is going to come true. And that's what. I mean about the metaphysical side of it that he has no particular rational reason. He has no immediate for believing but he's damn right. Yeah and we know he is and that kind of connection between the audience and the secondary character like that it really helps create a degree of compassion and a degree of empathy. For what these people are going through the because we can feel the that he's intuition is going to come true because we know ultimately did it's much easier for us to basically put ourselves in his shoes to actually feel something and understand something that must have been like go through and that kind of connection with someone who let's face it. Most of us will never meet that person Most of us will probably never know anything about those people who went through that in his first hand direct experience way so again just as platoon and on the fourth of july manage to build some bridges compassion and managed to actually move that dialogue about the vietnam war forward and helped you actually do something with all of that grief and pain that was constructive and in some way beautiful or at least very honest. This film manages it but manages it with vietnamese protagonists. No easy to do. That's my phone keeps going off. Sorry music that really impressed me. Because it's not necessarily something i would normally buy into or i certainly wouldn't buy into it if it was done in shallow shallow tokenistic way whereas this film does it with such depth di- did into it and actually was like i say just really rooting for these people. Yeah it's i i would. I would love to be able to tell story like this. In in the shoes of iraqis in the shoes of of people under under the american occupation and to have those same kind of sentiments those those their own connection to their surroundings and trying to make sense of it because they they also have the long the long arc of war between between everything that happened there the iraq iran war Persian gulf war our sanctions. All all that stuff. But so next we move into leila's relationship with both the viet cong and the newly arrived self vietnamese military and it very clearly shows how difficult it is for her to attempt to balance that that you know the the. I don't know what i would say that that. She seemed like she had a greater connection to the vc there but that it was her because her brother had joined up.
Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"oliver stone" Discussed on Fortress On A Hill (FOH) Podcast
"Look the fortress on a hill. I'm henry i'm danny. I'm kagan where we left us. Veterans that into the reality of the us military's multiple wars abroad and illuminate. The damage military service does america american presidents out. Us history you have used american military and diplomatic power to force regime change democratically elected governments around the world. Most veterans come from families vested in prior service and american generals choose their own ensuring diversity of thought never interferes with american warmongering. How can we stand by and do nothing. While our military kill and destroy lives the world over while telling americans that the death and destruction protect them from terrorists when nothing could be more. All fortress on a hill aims to change that tom.
WIBC 93.1FM
"oliver stone" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"Because 93 w Why D. C Welcome back to the market, Rob Show on Mark Roberts here. Producer Jacob is here, and I had a whole bunch of stuff planned out to talk about in this segment. But then I made the mistake of looking at our Facebook messages. And now there are new things that we have talked about. How could How could people find us on Facebook? They can find us on Machen, Rob show just go to their hit the like You can correspond with us as well. You can, and we read them as all soon proved to you because I'm about to read something. Let's go so because we talked about this in speed, we talked about your fear of flying. And look, I don't think it's a Is it a fear of flying? If it's grounded in reality, it's a fear of flying because it's not rational. In terms of risks that you take on a daily basis. It ranks right up there with, you know, being struck by lightning four times. Okay, So it's just not something that You should fear as much as you do. So I had read a story about the produce boilermaker basketball team having to make an emergency landing. And as I have always pointed out, this is not something I would have to do in my automobile. If the check engine light came on, which, conceivably it did in the airplane. All I would do is pull off to the nearest exit. Hello, Triple A. Let's go. Everybody's fine, Minor inconvenience, but everyone's fine. These guys could have been a death store, but they weren't open. You don't know how close they were Mark. Well, that they weren't emergency landing implies emergency. I've never heard emergency exit onto the local ramp. Okay, Well, Bryce has weighed in on this discussion on, he said, And I quote I spent 10 years working on jets for the air Force and can inform you. Ah, Bad windshield wiper will ground a jet but won't result in an in flight emergency. So literally, the jet would not even take off. See, that's another problem. I didn't have yesterday When I got in my automobile to come to work. My windshield wipers were frozen. You know what I did? Room room room room room started my car up and Cherry did work in a timely and reasonable fashion. This plane could. Well I got stuck in the snow. That's another story, but it wasn't the vault of the car. So anyway. Well, I thought that was interesting about the Air Force jets. We also got a message from Sean and Sean asked on this, just crack me up, he said. How come you guys aren't talking about the Jewish space lasers? And I said we already have. We talked about that last week or yesterday. I can't even for now, but we talked about it and he said, Well, it's hilarious. Talk about it more and I said, Okay, and so I'm going to talk about it more. Do you know why not even about the Jewish space lasers, But this specifically refers to Marjorie Green, who, if you haven't heard about Marjorie Green, she's making a lot of news because she's a very eccentric. Kind of crazy GOP rep newly elected rap from Georgia, Can you explain to people who are new to the party? What the Jewish space laser is s 01 of her. She is a Q and on follower, apparently, And so she has a lot of crazy beliefs. One of I'd learned a new one this morning, which I'll share in just a second. But the Jewish space laser theory is something that she had posted on Facebook and ultimately got taken down. And you know, the Facebook is forever And so it's not really On. It's just not available for you to go to an active link, but you can still see what she thought about the California wildfires took place several months ago. And of course, they were horrible. She decided that the reason for the wildfires was not as it turned out, because what was a PG electric admitted to having some faulty lines or something like that. Instead, she believed that Jewish owned companies had space lasers. Uh, that we're focused in on the area that the wildfires took place. They shot the lasers at those at those mountains, right in order to cause the wildfires on purpose so that they could build out a rail system. This is the Jewish space laser theory, Okay, And that's just one of a whole big bunch of crazy theories that she has. I've learned a new one this morning, Okay? But she apparently believes that Hillary Clinton and Houma Aberdeen Cut off the face of a living child so that they could make sure that the child was terrified because there's this Q theory that if you drink the blood of Children when they're afraid It like, gives you super special powers or something. And that Hillary War the face of the child as a mask. If that doesn't sound insane to you, I don't know what will that is Legit. Insane? That is, ah! That's a bit of a reach right now was a member of cons. Let's be very clear. Ah, lot of people around the Clintons have ended up meeting untimely demise is, Can we agree that? I mean that zit factual data, right? Well, I mean, she insists further that that Clinton is responsible for the death of JFK Junior, so I mean, she's got a lot of really out there theories. She also doesn't believe like the sandy hook shooting took place She doesn't believe night she believes in 9. 11 was an inside job. She's got a lot of these. And that's what that's what these people do. That's what conspiracy theorists do. In many cases they take Take something with an ounce of truth, which, in the case of the Clintons, an exorbitant amount of people associate with the Clintons have met untimely devices. That's a conversation we can have, because it's actually verifiable and they've died and really weird ways. I'm not going to argue that, but then they take it and all of a sudden they're cutting the faces off of people right and drinking their blood, their drinking the blood of Children whose faces they are wearing. I'm sorry, but that sounds insane. And I know people are gonna be mad. They're gonna be mad that I'm saying. How dare I criticize someone that's on the right. Listen, that's crazy. That's crazy Talk. If we can't agree that that's crazy talk, I don't know what we're going to agree on and back to what we talked about yesterday. The problem? Well, she many problems, but What a big problems especially when it leads to something like child pedophilia in these these pedophilia rings. That's a serious issue in this country and across the world and does need to be dealt with. It's something that government should be intervening in. But yet when they are presented in the forms of these wild and wacky pizza shop this that you know, world leaders whatever. It dilute the to the public. The public hears us and tunes that out when in reality there is this very serious issue that should be addressed right? And that's a great point that that the same thing happens on our side where you know there's legitimate issues that need to be delved into absolutely for sure. And his child trafficking in human sex trafficking trafficking a problem, of course. But you do get you lose people. When you start with these crazy theories that just makes you sound like the whole thing has to be crazy, because the way that you're presenting it is crazy. You know what I mean? I heard this years ago about the Kennedy assassination because it's fascinating. I've read many books on it. Any person who logically actually looks at the evidence. I think a reasonable person would come to the conclusion as well. Did it alone. There's all these other things out there. But when you sort through all the rumor, the innuendo The Oliver Stone movies. It's pretty obvious he could have done it where the bullets are. They could have gone that way. He if you're interested in the truth, But the point is people hurt. My sense is that people can't accept that someone as insignificant as Oswald could take out someone as significant as Kennedy on. I think this were a lot of these conspiracy theories come from the people just can't accept. It is what it is, and that's what it is. And instead of dealing with what it is, we create all these things that they're not an attempt to deal with those right. No, I think that's absolutely right. Ted. Lieu who horrible, horrible, horrible guy Democrat Where's he from? Do you know where he's from? I forget so why? No, that's all right. Who am I thinking of? Hang on here. I'll look it up. I can't remember. But anyway, he's a Democrat, and he was posting a whole bunch of old videos of Marjorie Greens on his Twitter. Feed yesterday, and he mean I watched some of them and they she's off the rails. California, California, which makes sense, it does make sense, You know, so she's talking about how Cuse said this and he dropped these crimes and Trump picked up on them. And he tweeted within seven minutes of these Q crumbs being dropped. And I'm just like Again. It's one of the things that I raged about earlier was like this is really the best Georgia had to offer. Really. I'll never forget the first time I knew what I heard about. Q. Somebody.
WIBC 93.1FM
"oliver stone" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"Kelly Clarkson Trace Adkins asked listeners and part of our halftime show the FedEx Orange ball. Wow. Now that is not the first time that Ashley Simpson has butchered a performance. Remember, she went on Saturday night live and I believe Jude Law was the host, and he introduces Ashlee Simpson. The younger sister of Jessica Simpson, and she's ready to perform her hit song, but it's totally going to be a lips sing, but the vocals track starts to play starts to skip and she freezes up does like a hoedown dance and walks off the stage. Take a Listen. You're going to hear the vocal track. Begin way too early. And she never says a word Once again, Ashlee Simpson. On a Monday way She does a little ho dance and Dances off the stage. All right, so 16 years ago, the booing at the Orange Bowl again, Speaking of college Bowl games, congratulations, the ball state. Fighting Cardinals of Ball State won the first bowl game in their school history by knocking off unbeaten San Jose. And not so much for Indiana and Notre Dame over the weekend. Notre Dame a game that We kind of figured they have a hard time with against Alabama. You know, the Golden Dome, Ear's against the mobile homers and mobile homers again took him to the Wood shed, although Notre Dame did cover Indiana, though, if you're going to run all that trash talk if you're going to run your mouth about being in the lower tier bowl game You gotta beat up pretty bad old Miss team. But all in all, pretty solid year for the Hoosiers on this date 47 years ago, 1974. President Nixon refused to hand over the tape recordings and documents subpoenaed by the Senate Watergate committee. That was 47 years ago. And every single year since then, Carl Bernstein has said, this is bigger than Watergate. Whatever the big scandal of the moment wants, a squirrel could fart outside of my house and Carl Bernstein right now would say this is bigger than Watergate. Look out. That was 47 years ago and 22 years ago. 1999 Jesse the body Ventura. Was sworn in as Minnesota's 37th governor. Did four years until 2000 and three. Here's the thing about Jesse. He was calling out the media before it was cool. Jesse Ventura was yelling fake news long before Donald Trump wants Listen to this little back and forth. He did on the Larry King show. It was just even tour. It was Oliver Stone. It was I believe representative Connie Mack. They're having a big discussion. And listen to Jesse Ventura giving the media a bunch of crap before It kind of became mainstream. Because the key to Oliver's film is not Hugo Chavez. The key to this film is the lying manipulation of our mainstream media and how they flagrantly lied to us, and I'm a person that knows the experience. Well, he's seeing an independent. You tell me what happened all of our meat this type of when How about when our media used to be the fourth branch of government are media was there to be the check of watching the other three? But our media today mainstream is not that Larry. They are bought and sold. I'll give you samples when I was an independent governor in Minnesota. I wrote at my autobiography When I got in office, the mainstream media accused me of profiteering. From winning that office. Wait. Two months later, John McCain comes through on a book tour and they herald his book. And yet because I don't belong to these two parties, I chastised Yelling at the media. Given the media the business before it was mainstream before it was popular before it was cool. Jesse.
The Big Picture
Oliver Stone: Memoir and Movies
"Stone, Amanda I in my mind have been circling a podcast episode about Oliver Stone probably since about Nineteen ninety-one, which is when I I had some consciousness about the work of one of the most fascinating figures of the last forty years in American cinema. There's a reason we're going to be having an episode conversation about stone today, which is that he has a new memoir that memoir is called chasing the light writing, directing surviving platoon midnight, express scarface Salvador, and the movie game. It's a very interesting book you and I have both read it. We're we're both. In some ways and perhaps frustrated confused devastated in other ways before we get into the book though and before we get into how we're going to talk about the scope, the massive scope, the unbelievable scope of Oliver Stone's career. When I say Oliver, stone, what do you think? Conspiracy Theorist just to be totally honest and filmmaker and. And really and boomer and I think that is going to inflict a lot of the way that I talk about Oliver Stone in his filmography because I am a generation younger I am a child of boomers and I came to Oliver Stone's work and to Oliver Stone's understanding of the world a generation after. He lived at and made it and it was very funny and re watching everything from platoon to to wall. Street to JFK. To realize the way in which those movies shaped, my understanding visual and political about Vietnam, and about JFK and about how we examine America and the government and I am both child of Oliver Stone's world, and maybe because of time in the way, the world has changed a skeptic of Oliver Stone's world at this point, which is just to say on the next generation. I. Think a lot of this will be boomer versus millennial and and that's good. That's how the world should work. Even Oliver Stone would agree with that though maybe not we can talk about it but I don't know what do you think of? Mid already. So many good points I. Think he's an artist to strains credulity while also I think enlivening imaginations he's somebody who is obviously immensely thoughtful and intellectual and spiritual and simultaneously feels like he completely out of control and trying to break the boundaries and stretch the concept of the truth all the time, and so he's just a a generational paradoxical figure. He's a he's a person who I think it makes immensely entertaining movies that. Don't always stand up to deep examination, and so I think he is he is an title baby-boomer figure in that way and that he is there's a certitude about his mission and there's an earnestness in insincerity to the message that he's trying to send. But also underlying that is perhaps a kind of cynicism and a skepticism about what he should be doing with his time versus what he's actually doing with his time, and so I you know I find, I've always found him to be fascinating maybe not as a human being per se but at least the stories that he tries to tell. I was GonNa say I do think he's interesting as a filmmaker and what else was a person and? We're GONNA talk about all the different ways in which Oliver Stone like quote breaks the rules but I have been thinking a lot as I have been reading his book, which is a fantastic read I will just say that the guy can write. and. Have also been revisiting his work that you and I are trained to as much as we can released I wasn't college train a separate the artist in the art the art has to stand on its own can't complete the filmmaker and the and the work, and you also need to understand that the work and the intention are possibly separate as well and Oliver Stone just makes massive all of that, and he makes a mess of that in his actual art and he makes a mess of that in the life that he lives and in the interviews that he gives and the work that he pursues and. To me that's exciting because it opens up conversation to talk about what can you take seriously and what is cynical and what is sincere and what is true and what is not true and how are we like an who is responsible, which is at least a different way to talk about art. So you know I give him that even though I don't agree with where I think Oliver Stone comes down on those the answers to those questions but even there, I'm just guessing. Well I, think if you look at the book, you certainly are looking at the man or at least the the self perception of the man, and so we'll talk a lot about him and his story in his life and and his the way he is capturing his own life on the page which I I agree I mean he's just in case you didn't know this is an Oscar winning screenwriter. This is one of the great writers of the last forty years is also as a person who didn't just write his own films but road scarface and Conan the barbarian and a number of other films over the years. So he knows what he's doing on the page, but he is also somebody who. If you look it the political thought not like a straight line where there is a left and a right. But if you look at it like a wheel like a circle, and if you go too far from one side of the circle to the other you can land. You may think you are liberal person and find yourself with right wing ideology or libertarian ideology and reverse can also be true and I think one of the reasons it's really hard to unpack not just what Oliver Stone says in interviews or what he even. Portrays in his documentaries but even when he puts in his films is it feels like he's constantly running around that track that circle of political thought and so he's actually a perfect figure for this moment where there is this desperation to find art that coincides with our political ideology or our sense of what the world should look like and as you said, Oliver makes a mess of that he really. is trying to he's contradicting himself in real time. He's contradicting the sensibilities of that kind of baby boomer antiwar mentality. But on the other hand, he's like an Avatar spirit animal of truth for certain kind of humanism and that sounds really kind of haughty. But I I think he really wants to representational person who is thinking about putting people before government business political structures, and it's complicated right? Because he's A. Essentially a wealthy well to do white man who was born in the immediate aftermath of World War. Two, and so he had so much opportunity to do the things that he wanted to do in a way that other people don't. So he's not he's just not a tidy figure for that pursuit of humanism. It's interesting that you said he's putting people in front of institutions and ideas and governments because I think that's true. But it's usually one percent, and if you look at his entire his filmography and and really I, think even if you look at how he says. A lot of political issues, but it's it's not. The, greater good. It's usually focused on one character who is often a man and quite often a white man it is and it is understanding history through a single person's experience. So it's like it's almost I. mean he certainly subscribes to a great man theory of history but at the same time as also reversing, which is like the the the one person's experience of history, which can be a really exhilarating in certain films that we'll talk about and really really misguided I find or not even misguided but just doesn't work and isn't illuminating and the way that he thinks it is. IN IN CERTAIN Aspects, and then also in certain cases, it can just be about himself and it is I. The thing that makes his. His memoir. So electric is that it really is self mythology and he is really trying to understand himself and trying to pin down that constantly moving wheel as you said simultaneously and and I really admire having access to that. I obviously read a lot of celebrity junk and and memoirs and. Interested in trying to have access to people's ideas and thoughts and understand their characters and most people won't give it up in that way and won't share and won't be as open and Massey at as as Oliver. Stone is and that's true of the book and that's true of politics for sure and it's it's making. The great man theory is is really relevant to this conversation not just because of the book not because of the film's but because it's a little bit unclear, it's a sort of a chicken and the egg or the proposition with him. Does he subscribe to those theories because we read about in this book, He is interested in the dramatic pursuit. He has a pretty clear understanding literally of how to tell a strong story and that story is usually through a homer like figure or a a habit like figure somebody who is you know on on an indomitable quest to achieve something that seems impossible he's he's really passionate about this and you know again, there is something kind of haughty about this but also he just he seems to come to a very sincerely and so he uses Jim. Garrison in. J. F. K. or he uses Jim Morrison in the doors or he uses Ron. Kovic. In born on the fourth of July as these avatars as these great men who are seeking to achieve something that no one else could even perceive as possible and I think Oliver Stone sees himself in a very similar fashion. He sees himself as this well, to do white guy who volunteer volunteers for the Vietnam War to explode his privilege and to understand the world in a hopefully deeper way,
Ethan Bearman
Dell, Oliver Stone and Bolton discussed on Ethan Bearman
"California transportation officials says motorists should expect delays on a newly reopened stretch of highway that connects northern California to Oregon one lane in each direction of interstate five reopened today for drivers traveling through the area. The highway opens six days after a wildfire roaring along the roadway forest. It's
Jim Bohannon
Del Toro, Oliver Stone and David discussed on Jim Bohannon
"Guitarists playing the, same song, at the same time they all plugged into tiny battery powered apps after paying a, fee which went. To the us trillion children's music, foundation David certified he. Would easily break the Mark of three hundred sixty