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REShow: Guest Host Dan Hellie. Bruce Feldman. Hour 3 (10-11-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Guest Host Dan Hellie. Bruce Feldman. Hour 3 (10-11-19)

"Thank you for listening to this podcast one sports net production available on Apple podcast and podcast one wow what a great time of year it is football baseball playoffs hockey and soon the NBA. If you're looking to add some excitement to the game make betty aside dot com your betting partner new members get one hundred percent bonus the wife and children but he's basically chasing them with a Taser I kinda love that actually won incredible so you're twenty three years old this pitcher filters wipers and more quality parts helpful people that's Napa know how know-how participating stores while supplies last minimum three items exclusions college ball coming up on Saturday so a great college football Saturday but I want to get to the story first before we talked to Bruce according to a police report sales on the incident in the home on a reported to police that a man later identified as Jacob James Knicks entered his home through the doggy door the homeowner confront PSI DOT COM and use Promo Code R. E. One oh one and get this limited time one hundred percent bonus offer to make some extra cash remember it's only a game until you the Knicks kicking him once in the face probably a good while by the way when somebody's coming through your doggy door I would highly suggest kick in them in the face police say another man twenty true insider waiting to talk to Bruce here in a matter of moments five games looks like on the slate between ranked teams in Arizona's fall league sounds a little weird you know who knows exactly what was involved well let me tell you what was involved here this is according to a ABC fifteen news has Dago padres right handed pitcher Jacob Knicks arrested and charged with criminal trespassing in Peoria Peoria Rather Arizona this past weekend he's they're playing in the AH Knicks is twenty three years old he's playing in the Arizona folly can you imagine what goes on in the locker room now after he's arrested for trying to an all other major sports also politics reality TV east sports virtually everything try live betting at this is where you can bet on games from start to finish every play why are instant thirty one thousand nine hundred back with from our lovely Elsa Gun does studios here in La County GonNa talk to Bruce Feldman Day and every minute until the end new members get one hundred percent bonus match using Promo Code R. E. One oh one that's double your money to start winning today so once again go to bed a little college football coming up in a minute here Bruce of course rights for the athletic sideline reporter for Fox College Football Games one of the very best in the business he's a uh the homeowner leaned out of the doggy door and deployed his taser striking knicks in the back is a very user friendly interface and mobile site simply play win and get paid pettiest offers betting options for everything but on the NFL NBA NHL boxing what did intense confrontation. This must have been this is home alone this is nuts because I if somebody's in my house and they're Bruce Feldman who's on the line now has never tried to sneak into somebody's house through a dog door bruce UN that that the best thing it never gets old I love that and of course you're an Eugene for Colorado and Oregon tonight on F s one is that correct yes in writing or is it being at the Games on the silent it's been at the Games on the sideline I mean I love all those other things but you know they all kind of go together but just leaving the doggy door I don't know that I'm chasing him I'm like Nardo police on the phone like safe for the time being like let's hide ah I've done some dumb things in my day not that Bruce Feldman who writes for the athletic he's a reporter for Fox has the any poll or anybody talked to he's one of the top two or three guys right now in terms of the running for the Heisman what is it about Lincoln Riley that makes him so effective with Senate three or more items you can fit inside some call that magic other say it's the eighth wonder of the world but whatever it is is the best way to save you twenty percent breaks at the Cotton Bowl I know you've been on Texas since before the season started but but you like Oklahoma in this when according to your most recent column has that changed seven o'clock local time tonight should be often stadium never disciplines all right I'm going to ask you about that game in just a minute but I want to run down some of the some of the key games here between ranked to be I mean college fall every bit if not more when I first started doing this and just to be able to do that you know that's that's the secondary which got lit up by Joe Borough Lsu week two day or really banged up so not only were they really inexperienced now they're really banged up on top of it double podcasts with STU and Bruce out of those three things spruce garner the most joy from is it the podcast is defense right now Lincoln Riley is this quarterback savant you know he's the kind of the latest hot ticket item for really any NFL job but I think it's going to be hard for as terrific as allender is I think it's going to be hard for them to keep up as depleted as they are on to do that and look let's not kid ourselves bakers super talented cuyler super talented jalen hurts really gifted so I mean right now this had it at bat ds I now know why should you buy ninety nine percent Napa bag because it's no ordinary bag it can save you twenty these quarterbacks that he hasn't had for four years that just kind of come in and have this immediate success I think what he's really really good at is he's teams the Red River showdown can't call to shoot at anymore noon on Fox Oklahoma Texas Oklahoma coming in ranked six Texas is eleven that's GonNa be opened including the redskins they talk about Lincoln Riley Baker Mayfield won the heisman trophy he transferred and Kayla. Marie won the heisman trophy he transferred Jalen hurts is tracking three year old Thomas Cosgrove then reached through the doggy door to pull knicks out of the whole like hit out kicking you in the grill the two fled acking and what might work and I think his feel for that and keeping it all relatively simple for his players to go play free I think he's been the best collection of receivers Oklahoma's ever had at least in this in this great run they've been on so I think it all fits together Alabama taken on Texas am does am have a shot being that it's at home they have an eye out for Ariffin feel for play calling and I think people know he has area routes but he's not doing a lot of the same era stuff I think he's got some really that's probably the works for the best eighty and college sports right now and Joe Castiglione would leave that situation to go work for the kind of ownership that the redskins really well and and quite you've seen a team that's playing with a lot of confidence and just I know that the redskins they came up I'd be really stunned up Lincoln Riley assistant coaches around and Bill Bo might get the best offensive line coach in college football he's really good with the run game and I think he in Lincoln are very creative and see them being able to hang with hang with tied for four quarters I think maybe a year from now this matchup will be a little different because to on some of those receivers of begun I think taking somebody's house through the doggy door I mean who knows what what was involved in other could've been could've drinking going on could have been some edibles who knows what was involved but he's all sides of the ball on the line of scrimmage to handle Alabama and stay with them for four quarters I mean you know you're right that is a great group of course good as the one at Alabama in quite some time I mean not as Smith was just bananas against Ole Miss with two hundred seventy four yards and five touchdowns number one ranked it drew a doggy door. That's crazy wow you know I guarantee I guarantee I would I would bet a year salary very much but C. C. West right now you have Justin Jefferson who's who's been fantastic he was a like a low three star guy who's blown up and vinegar a player for them they have Jim all the in your three but right now I just think it's too much of an uphill climb for the aggies so you talk about Jerry Judy Devante Smith Henry Rugs all five star Oh I came up with a couple a couple of lists here okay I want to run by you Ohio State no six Oh seven had San Antonio Homes Ted Ginn Anthony all going off at one time the way it seems like Alabama has retool right now yeah you bring up clemson Sammy Watkins Martavis Bryant out of Humphrey You know what I mean we had we had a couple of weeks ago it was really in Jalen hurts and offenses as been also Texas Emiko this receiving court Alabama right now well I would put the the combination of document for her had at Lsu just with Landry and Odell Beckham undefeated to a four undefeated teams right now in the SEC Florida of course coming off that win over then seventh-ranked Auburn the gator defense is pretty stout ride outside shot. I mean killing a good quarterback and Jimbo Fisher's really but certainly a really good coach I just don't think they're good enough and ready on you're recruits coming out of high school I was racking my brain trying to think of you know just in the last ten fifteen years a better tree art chase is probably be breakout player in the SEC this year and terrorists marsh lose hurt but those guys and terrorist Marshall probably be back in a couple of weeks those guys as as a threesome with in that offense they rivaled outgrew Clemson's loaded You know I was thinking USC had a bunch what it was then it depends on money I don't know if it depends on just his overall happiness there but it looks like he's in a pretty good situation you talk about the receivers at Oklahoma being good I don't know that I've seen a receiving burst has a Jerry Judy's probably the most dynamic after the catch guy they just have a ton of firepower and I you know I just don't Alice all first round picks Miami had Santana Moss and Reggie Wayne and then Andrei king who was a seventh round pick and then Lsu had but older quarterback but no more experiencing contrasts now he's gotta go into an equally hostile environment is much probably maybe more since it's a night game there gene and a half in this game I don't think they are I think Florida's defense is really good now here's why I think the experts have it this way there's here where they had Michael Clayton Debra Henderson in Josh read is there another receiving core you know in recent history that stands out to you that was as diner to me has been one of the more fascinating players in college football loses the job basically to Duane Haskins at Ohio state was a graduate transfer goes to Lsu that were down writer I just don't see him make that kind of business decision at all sometimes the grass isn't always greener I would be surprised as well but you never know it's just it was a big drop off for the next guy guys who played in the NFL What's crazy is as good as this Alabama group is and I mean also in the s and I think that's the challenge and the other factor is kind of back end of of a one two punch meaning they played a big physical this game is last week they had bonex kind of a true freshman non ready to handle the swamp and that defense now it's flipped and you have they're going to have to deal with Lsu's number one ranked scoring offense averaging fifty four points per game though is Lsu two touchdowns better than Florida? They're favored by thirty this was their Andre Hop hop yeah of course now they all over the place it's unbelievable what they've done just does not bode well for Dan Mullen in Florida it's gotTa Situation I'm glad you brought that setup I saw that in your column very interesting stuff there Joe Pearl me there's two big factors that are the first one is this game is at Tiger Stadium at night Florida quarterbacks pile trask very limited experience not lied but a better much better offense and probably equal personnel on defense say for the defensive line part of it and that games on the Klay a ranked team as an underdog and then beat them and then you gotta go on the Road to plan other ranked team that team is one and eleven those games that's why tim very well and now this'll be a big test for them to play Florida this defense but right now he's a legit heisman candidate this is different than any Lsu we have seen in a long long time and he runs the system really well and I think it's there's a lot of NFL concept markedly has not been a great nfl player but you look at how to Great Ron Robert Woods Day have had a really really good receivers but you could throw it think you know a little bit like Sean Payton sorry not just Sean Payton Sean McVeigh with the Rams have guys who have a great perspective on who they are what Clemson had you know you've had some big super athletic receivers bear it's just hard to it's hard to to be honest sometimes these guys blur together on their let. Let's let's visit the SEC for a minute here the eight o'clock game on Saturday on ESPN is seven Florida undefeated at Lsu also road it's at night and when you look back and I saw this summer we talked about on the audible this week and I saw Christopher Eka really from game they bundled up with somebody was really really great there last year but probably a role player when the other guys Kinda role and it's just hard to tie think have them on are pretty amazing stat in the last twelve times a a ranked team has played one of these kind of this dynamic which is these these big passing days it's because of what Joe Brady brought Joe Borough picked it up really really well I think it suits I don't know at on that end if you know there's there's some other guys we're going to be bigger arms but I if I'm when you're looking what he's doing here's the stuff that I know another who plays last year was good not great but nobody in college football this season has made themselves more money than Joe Borough twenty two touchdown passes already pro football focus ah had probably as big a coaching addition as anybody made this year and it was a guy almost nobody knew about Joe Brady who was a at the time is play Lsu and Auburn coming up Bruce Feldman on the phone from Fox sports and the athletic we were talking Florida and Lsu Joe Borough ups I mean he's the guy who probably was looked like as a free agent prospect now I would not be surprised if you became a first round pick somewhere in the first round if you stop pretty well and they love his leadership how competitive he is out smart he is and the last piece of that is in terms of how he picked up they brought own it last week the emotional rush to play Auburn they were an underdog they won the game now they gotta play an even more talented team with the better off and maybe not a benefit guy is the passing game coordinator in the receivers coach and he has changed everything at Lsu and it's all been for the better when you see them hitting the gas and having all the wide receiver coach to make a jump into the head coaching ranks and then a win a couple a national championships at at Florida and Ohio state when your counterparts now at Fox terrific arm like you said he's very smart he's also really athletic I mean he's he moves really well for being two hundred forty pounds. I think that the two areas assimilated as the best quarterback in college football what do you see Joe Borough and do you think that he could be the first quarterback taken that's right yeah I mean he's he's younger than Urban Meyer hairs a lot rhetoric but he is a guy who is he it is not enough in Baton Rouge for what he's done for that for that program certainly as you're on said he's been waiting to change his offense and now he has the pieces in place Bama by the way Emma in Tuscaloosa and that's been the big hurdle for them but so far I mean that guy has been has been a huge like whatever he's getting paid for some time to get those guys those are the three best weapon the other part of it which is a little bit of a wild card with with just a herbert is just demeanor I mean he's he's a brilliant kid I think you just watch the taxes game and just see what's gone on there and it's GonNa be fun to see what happens Tiger Stadium I'm still not sure they can beat out beat album this guy has so much credibility with his teammates 'cause they know how hard he works and how much cares same questions Still to this day about Marcus Mariota six he has the army has the intelligence what have you seen from Justin Herbert could translate into the NFL or he's got he's got it down in the spring and you have all this buzz around him inside the program and I remember writing the story what you get from a lot of people a lot of readers they called Titans preseason games and they still ask those questions about Marcus Eli Manning had those questions coming out throughout his career he went to super bowls Bruce Feldman from the athletic and Fox a cow and they got three of their best receivers back from injury would miss most of the year and those guys are a little rusty so let's see what happens now ninety nine year old he was an assistant with the saints but not even a position coach and he had learned under Joe Moorhead Penn State and then went to go work for Sean Payton that the question I want people are gonNA say hey how come they're not put up even bigger numbers and the pass game and I think one of the key challenges for them is they last week we had them against presence he is not the raw raw kind of personality doesn't mean he can't be a really good NFL quarterback leaves and there have been guys who have not had that Kinda Ultra Alpha personality but he's just you know just a little different Matt regard I mean to be honest Marcus Mariota had similar demeanor tunnel and he hates when people do that on his show at my goodness how could you do that to your own show my friend Dan Halley in the seat for rich go to GEICO DOT com today sorry for all the numbers and in five four three two one amount of time if you're like me vern London set to call the Bucks Panther's game on NFL network on Sunday early London game good way to kick off your Sunday morning we're GonNa take a quick break here and I just think that sometimes because the guy has all the physical tools and there's no off-field character question mark there's people always gonna find some and guys generated a ton of buzz I mean we did a big story on them on the athletic in the offseason eddoes round the head coach at told me they've been raving about this guy so when I went appreciate it my friend I appreciate the time always a pleasure to catch up Dan thank all right talk to you soon have a good call in the game tonight that's Bruce Feldman all the very nice humble kid I think there's some questions about just moving these fair to say questions but I guess just about how much of a commanding it's going to be on the sideline for the Colorado Oregon game tonight on F s one bruce also my neighbor in Manhattan beach thanks for coming on the show bruce much kind of consensus first or second quarterback off the board for the last year or so along with this this guy has all the tools he's six curtail well he's running this system it's funny how that works isn't it you mentioned Joe 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Dan that's a monster game in college football not to rank teams like we've been talking about but still a massive rivalry and notre dame trying to keep their playoff hopes alive in a way Notre Dame's won the last two in this series I think I'll be curious to see how dogs in this game and keen Slovaks back a quarterback to me I I hate to always say it's all about the quarterback but he was true hardman has been fantastic the Marcus Robinson has huge game Sammy Watkins has a big but none none of those guys are tyreek and I think that when you have the element of Rick and Travis Kelsey on the field the same time I don't want to say it makes mahomes different quarterback because I think mahomes Magic Johnson ask in the way that he makes everybody around him SURENA CATCH USC at number nine Notre Dame on direct TV Channel One oh five don't have four K. good at Att Dot Com and now live report rock men with the news or news brought to you by Honda the Honda can I make a move to remove the head football coach as the interim athletic director he'll let the new ad come in and do that the trojans coming off a bye week eleven point let's see comes out clay Helton is going to be the coach the rest of the year the interim athletic director at USC basically said as much you know barring something completely unforeseen he's four K. hd are with lifelike picture quality richer colors and four times the resolution of hd make sure to tune in tomorrow seven thirty p. m. e. okay Daniel teased it talking candidate achieves tyreek hill here he's been out since week one with that clavicle injury he's been limited participant in practice is this weekend to beat Houston I don't think there's any doubt about that I mean listen when we talked about the most electric players in football earlier somebody called in Houston at four one Kansas City the chiefs haven't lost back to back games home since two thousand thirteen they're coming off that disappointing loss to India the last two days and I'll network insider Ian rapoport was on good morning football today said there is optimism that hill could be back this week now I don't need to talk about more about that coming up next segment sneaky good games I'll give you some college best bets but let's get some rest of the news here we'll NFL injury update a similar to like Sam darnold situation feelings one thing but you gotta get the tests and the scans to come back positive gonNA scan the bone make sure it's here properly and see that it's raking coming in relief and kind of you know regress to the mean I guess you could say but I I think they have a shot here to cover I I don't see USC win this one a and said Dionne my opinion is that Patrick Mahomes and one of the reasons that I say Patrick Mahomes is because of tyreek Hill now they've had some other very good receivers who have stepped up better totally agree with that but it makes them a better offense yeah especially saw last week Travis Kelsey kind of silence a little bit and that no India did a good job credit to them awesome things happen there I think this is a really this is a really interesting game too because to me. It's the most dynamic quarterbacks plural for him to be out there obviously having tyreek Hill back adds a much more dangerous dynamic for that kids city offense which I think they're going to need to score a lot yards and three touchdowns every week but they're they're starting to pick up a little steam here and that defense that defense is solid there for Houston three and two I mean it is your drum-shattering I went to a preseason game in Seattle upper deck we were there with my fantasy league we were sitting in football right in Patrick and Shawn Watson and I feel like Houston I thought initially in the AFC south they were on the outside looking in I didn't night we were covering the San Antonio Commanders and another team we're in San Antonio and the backup quarterback for San Antonio had just gone air but arrowheads for whatever reason the way that that stadium is shaped reminds me kind of the old RFK stadium in DC it's just and we go and they were Seattle and Arrowhead one like they were the best in all the loudest stadiums we went is mooch not one of the best human beings you've ever worked with can football the old af that lasted all of eight weeks so I called eight games for the the alliance and mutual my partner for a couple of them the backup quarterback comes in in the flow of the game on the air the backup comes in and says this is the first action that he seen since his tain remarkable insane crazy madden stats I've ever heard so I gotta think they bounce back pretty strong this week well there's had you been next to each other couldn't hear the conference you couldn't have a conversation because it was so funny because there are certain stadiums you expect they were as good as you know the titans and the colts when the coal tad Andrew lucked but You add the element of of will fuller certainly is not going to go off for two hundred seventeen ah great to be on the field with to do you want because he knows everybody you WanNa hear one of my favorite stories do it so from the the the alliance of on Ben Married and he didn't go on his honeymoon because it was a season but he couldn't change the date of the wedding the alliance was like here and gone and five seconds so like why would you move your wedding he called it a major injury after he sat out yesterday's practice declined to speculate when he might be healthy enough to return toll the packers website jeff so but he'd been married for two and a half three weeks or so the starting quarterback for San Antonio goes down we have time that's bad news for packers fans fantasy owners course Monday night big matchup in the NFC north packers lions Monday night when you think about that it'll earlier than he should have he's the only first time head coach who's having success this year he's figured it out and they're doing it on Defense Czyz area Smith and Preston hear US laughing hysterically and neither one of us know really what to say like I don't know how do you follow it up and he just looks at me like like hands in the air like what did you say that I see them right in the ship yeah also last game woes point total Patrick mahomes career never scored west and twenty seven in a game which one to be loud and they're not really that loud MUCCI and I used to go on the field and do an take my meter out you're such a namedrop yeah he had a couple of good years there but this is by far the best that I've seen play and Aaron Rodgers has been fine the offense has been fine you know we had saw earned Jones light it up for a game outta shutting that element of the game down helped mahomes got a little banged up on the ankle on a limited his mobility he's a different quarterback what he's able to get out of the pocket and kind of me just trying to get into a pace at this point can't really tell you when I'm going to play I know it doesn't feel how I wanted to feel at the moment but we definitely this guys who a lot will say hey because of his relationship with mcvay and his experience on staff with McVeigh in College Shanahan he got this job maybe Smith have combined for ten and a half sacks this season I press in Smith I don't know if he had ten and a half sacks in his entire time with the redskins I'm speaking tonight and I look at like wow man I hope not and he looks at me with this classic Mitch Phase We're both hitting like the cough button I don't think if you extrapolate this out you know over time that this is going to be an eleven twelve wind green bay team but you know they could be a ten when team that gets into the playoffs and game I'm really curious to see what they can do here without the vaunted listen this offense hasn't been lighting up the scoreboard this this is a defensive driven team thus far in the season huge matt leflore fan got the norm a little bit when he was with the titans for that single season and he's breeze a quarterback and if teddy can hold down the fort for another three weeks or so I can see New Orleans really firing on all cylinders I think the eagles are getting healthier and better slowly but surely the back end of that defense they're going to have four if not five corners out this week I feel like it's the same story we've been talking about for the last I'm still not a buyer there but that is not the NFC west is that not the most interesting division football right now most interesting most competitive best I mean just think little the wrong question question so no another star player dealing with an injury Davante Adams packers wide receiver dealing with that turf toe seasons with Philadelphia the back into that defense just not being up to snuff they obviously found a way to get it done a couple of years ago in the Super Bowl the staying power me is the biggest question about Seattle Russell has been shouldering the load there that defense has been playing relatively well Chris Carson has had his moments Have you been to know did the game at Arrowhead there is that's the loudest place in the NFL to me there's no place out in Seattle when you think of Aaron Rodgers and the packers offense but I think that really bodes well for them the fact that they're form one and the offense hasn't really caught it yet maybe they haven't needed to because the defense of the run from the quarterback position it makes David Johnson better it makes Christian Kirk better it makes it entire offense better I I he doesn't want to take the punishment he smart enough to know what happens when these quarterbacks do run on a regular basis but if you just have the threat has played well or who they've played but Detroit coming into one Green Bay at foreign one I

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Occupies on the Senate floor dusk eighty-eight the profiles are mixed with Sharon's reflections on his own experiences variances and thought about issues dear to him. It's a really engaging and insightful book and one that reminds us that they're still much more to do due for progressives working for equality and Opportunity Ladies and gentlemen. Please welcome the most accomplished politician for meals. Class of nineteen seventy four. Aw Sherrod Brown instead the what was the word you just use you use the term grizzled and Connie Connie my wife Connie Schultz by the way many any of you know Connie Connie and Kaanai were taking the train from York we did. We did last night we did the coal baron. This is really our first thrill book signing like this. So thank you for I know. These slots are are rarely given in difficult to get at Baltics and frozen but she. She was reading something where my voice was described as an idling diesel engine which I was kind of taken by that. I thought some people really can right One day I'll talk about the book but one one thing. When Brad mentioned our time and in college together I announced for Con- for the legislature in January my senior year? And and we did if we did one fundraiser in the campus and I we roped off a corner the dining hall and we allowed anybody to sit there who had already paid for their meal through their meal ticket and we charged a dollar and we raised fifty four dollars with no overhead. And I'm still Kim and Josh and people do our fundraiser. We're still trying trying to figure that out so but again thank you. I'll talk for fifteen twenty twenty minutes and I want to take your questions and I said I'm not. This'll be my first book signing like this for this book walk and dumped just absolutely thrilled that so many of you are here. And I'd like attention to scale Ross. WHO's my agent and Gayle? Is this book. Would she was was told me that senators actually could right and convince me and thank you in my brother. Bob Is here. WHO lives in Cleveland but Bob is somewhere in the back? So Bob thanks for coming onto the idea for came well. My first month in the Senate was J two thousand seven and much of what. What's that Charlie Charlie's here Charlie? I'm sorry I didn't know Charlie lives here in Charlie's also my brother. I'm sorry you wonder. You wonder appearance. CHARL- Charlie Brown Bob Brown and Sherrod Brown. I mean I. I don't understand that anyway. But I think is an here. Diane's voice in Charlie. Charlie became now. Congratulations to National Sans. First of all and the I know I know you probably shown up in larger numbers if Sean doolittle had been speaking tonight if you get my drift there but char- Charlie Charlie Charlie moved to Washington and gave up his his loyalty to the Cleveland Indians in nationals Fan. But back a few years ago I met Ken Burns and Ken Burns was done one of his incredible one of his incredible films on baseball and I saw Ken Burns and a cafeteria thing in that Longworth Cafeteria apetit area. Any doing a thing about the bay about his exempt by an exhibit about his show and he had A. He had a baseball hat on. It's a Boston hat and I said I said you you grew up in Detroit. He said I did I said. Aren't you a tigers fan. He said I was and then I moved to Boston. I said so you move to Republican neighbors and become a Republican so so anyway okay. Let's go back to the book. Okay enough two thousand seven. I first month in office one of the things much of the beginning of your time in the Senate and the House is by seniority. So you choose your office by Seniority. A choose your desk on the Senate floor by seniority. I never really knew anything about this. Except that a senator. He told me that senators will carve their names in the bottom of their desk drawers. So I realize there's no really bad seats on the Senate floor you're not sitting behind a posted old RFK stadium. You've got good seats. So I started looking at the desk drawers and the fourth I looked at I saw McGovern South Dakota Gore senior Tennessee Hugo Black Alabama and then it just said Kennedy in so I I was about four seats tech your second. Can he comes over and I said which brothers desk this he say looked at he said. Well it's gotta be Bobby's I have jacks desk. So that was my introduction to desk. eighty-eight all the desks are number. No senator knows what the number on her desk or his desk is. It's a little carving in the bottom. You didn't know that did you. Did you wear this so number of you have worked in the Senate here in the no this stuff so I chose this task and I just began to think about the sort of the the well chose this task and started thinking about one hundred fifty. He books later. I ran about one hundred fifty five or sixty books mostly in total to to to to research this about senators about the time even a book by Tolstoy that gave me some ideas about how to write this about some things in this book I interviewed about one hundred people. Some former senator some staff some people all that just would have interest in this in ten years later. The book game and it was a long long project it would have been done after about three years. I thought I had finished first. The first draft and I showed it to Connie to is terrific writers. You know and I showed it to my brother Bob in they both said there's there's just not nearly enough here you don't have yourself in this book. Anybody could have written about these eight senators so I went back to the drawing board and and worked on this on and off for a period of years and it came up with this Ada. And I. It's I wrote it for the same reason as I where this lapel pen. This lapel pin. I've worn since I was a workers Memorial Day rallying Lorraina City Tony more since hometown. I might add west of Cleveland on Lake. Erie and this is a pin printed up by the steelworkers it's a depiction of a canarian. Birdcage word cage in Labor history. No workers were the canary died. Workers got out of the mines. They had no union strong enough or government that cared enough in one thousand nine hundred to protect them and so this pen represents what the purpose of my writing. This book is in that. Is that that the power of I believe the power. Our government can make people's lives better pure and simple and that's the progressives are and that's what we do so as I've growing up is the son of a doctor and a teacher and a teacher US Southern Southern woman teacher from the north from the south a woman. I'd say that great growing up the son of a doctor and our mother was a teacher on the grew up in Georgia in a small town in Georgia. You people sometimes say. How did you get this politics? How did you become a Labor abor Democrat? Why do you think this way? And I wanna read two passages one about my mother and one about my first year in the legislature. When I spent a lot of time in union halls a read this rita several paragraphs from each like Hugo black? My mother was a child of the segregated south born almost one hundred years ago in a small town of maybe four hundred people she at a young age found segregation in its white privilege. I confusing then confounding than repugnant. Repugnant no issue inform my mother as much as race while the busing controversy raged in the nineteen sixties in the national media. My mother talked October different. Kind of forced busing. The forced busing of her childhood. In the segregated south black children were bussed. Passed a new all white school to attend a distant underfunded black school separate but equal. They said black children were given books that were tattered in dated after being discarded by the white schools. If the black children were provided any books at all my mother now middle aged organized interracial dialogues at a local at our area high school in junior high to encourage students who went to school together to actually talk to each other and share their stories. She told us about her childhood about race and class and privilege and how she and her sisters even though they were middle class at best enjoyed far more privilege and opportunity than any black child born in Newton in county Georgia. She told my brothers and me always to address older black men and women with their honorific titles. Mrs Rogers Mr Fields Mrs Christian Christian. She'd seen far too many white children in rural Georgia called older older black men Jimmy and Johnny an older black women that he and Hattie blue to this day as a tribute to my mother and because of her teachings I ask older African Americans regardless of their professions their last name and address them Mr Amiss. My mother knew next to nothing about unions after all her parents were farmers in her husband was a physician. But she intuitively understood that people banding together could enhance their collective power raise their standard of living and demand justice and she saw trade unionists unionise. People people like the United Auto Workers Walter Reuther in the Brotherhood of car. Sleeping quarters sleeping. Car Porters a Philip Randolph standing alongside and marching a civil rights. Heroes in that was the. That's the kid 'cause she cared most about. She knew the doctor King was martyred in Memphis advocating for exploited floyd sanitation workers. Her unrelenting activism continued. Two thousand four dispatch satisfied with the grassroots of the Kerry presidential campaign. She recruited a friend loaded a card table and two folding chairs into a trunk in drove to the poorest parts of Mansfield where she sat day after day in front of grocery stores stores registering voters within a month the two of them registered more than nine hundred voters. She kept the names and phone numbers. She was now. Eighty four keep in mind gap got the names and phone numbers of the new voters in. Call them on election day to make sure they've at the age of eighty seven. This shy white girl from the segregated south was was the first in my family to go to work volunteer to elect the first African American President Months Before the Democratic Doc Primary January twentieth. Two thousand nine was the last day she got out of bed and sat up to watch television sitting with my oldest brother. Bob's she had sent Connie and Mehta Washington in and said you go to the inauguration. Seeing history made she died two weeks. After the inauguration watching Barack Obama take the oath of office was the last good day a of her life. Now the other reading I want to do is about my labor education. If you you will early my first term in the Ohio House of Representatives I was twenty two the legislature at adjourned on a Thursday night with no votes in no committee hearings. Friday I headed at home to my district in Richland county hour drive north when those schedule appointments I drove across town to the United Auto Workers Hall their members at always made me feel guilty. The feel feel guilty fueled welcome although we'RE DOT COM from. Maybe that do all right. This privilege. Good doctors made me feel guilty. I don't know where that came from. That is not on this page. Although they endorsed my candidates to the year before and I had many times met with and talk to the unions officers and activists. I didn't really know them. I didn't didn't know their personal stories in even though I'd given I even though I had gone to high school with their sons and daughters I didn't know much about their lives. Thus began my political education the UAW local one sixty-nine in at the UAW local five forty nine. I learned about the history of trade unionism. I learned how union workers has made steel in how they built cars. I learned that strikes are always inactive back against the wall. Desperation because workers never make makeup for the wages loss. No matter how good the contract and how briefly they are on the picket line. And I learned that to a trade unionist strikebreakers SCABS SCABS for the lowest form of human life. Few of these workers white and black expected to have the opportunity that this doctors kid had. But they understood intuitively. I would say that their high school daughter their son John Sherman Highschool John Sherman. Junior high could have more than they did. Their challenge to grasp the American Erkin Dream and launch. Their children upward was more difficult than it was for my parents. Many things could go wrong for them away off a strike a workplace injury Orien- illness in the family each with more devastating consequences than life deals more affluent white family and of course African American workers had greater challenges inches because of decades of discrimination. I learned about luck or you were born. How much education income your parents add? What neighborhood you lived in in in what school you attended? I understood how much good luck I had in. How little some of these workers had while told me what they read? Books and articles in newspapers apor stories about strikes and heroes of the Labor movement. Over the years I came to realize that the best books about workers in their unending struggle for dignity and a decent decent standard of living or novels while Joe Hill Emile. Zola's Herman how Petra did do not does Christ in concrete in John Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath. Now this book is about eight. United States senators understanding all white all male. Everybody that ever held my desk to my knowledge was a man. That's what the Senate looked like in those days you know and I expect if someone stands in front of you or for someone in this bookstore. One Hundred Years From now after eight other senators there will be more women. There will be people of Color as I as I've written about in this book and I I am that that that tells me a lot about sort of where where we need to go in this country. I've talked for a moment about each of the eight senators. I want to focus on the first one I wrote about came to the Senate in one thousand nine hundred thousand six named Hugo Black. But I'll start with the most recent George McGovern Senator McGovern Auburn was the only one of the eight that I knew I met him. I never met any of the other seven. I saw senator proxy from a distance. I didn't hang around much in this city until I was elected did into the house. Twenty five years ago but I'm Senator Senator McGovern told me a number of stories. When I sat and talked to him one of his favorites was he he was he went up to Barry Goldwater in? Barry Goldwater at suffered a rather Rather humiliating defeat as you know and he had a conversation he recalled. He recounted with Walter Mondale and Mondale's you know in one thousand nine hundred four one one st his own the District of Columbia twelve years earlier McGovern one one St Massachusetts and the the District of Columbia and thank you for that and Mondo went up to mcgovern a couple years after the nineteen eighty-four shellacking. He said George. When do you get get over this? How long does it take McGovern? I'll let you know I mean it's six nights funny but it really is and I'm not sure you ever you ever race that scar but so one day in one thousand nine seventy one McGovern is talking to to Barry Goldwater and he says Berry told me. They're both centers time. This was a year before McGovern's McGovern's loss and he said Berry. Tell me what it's like to run for president some advice and they had a good conversation in his McGovern recounted to me then said to Goldwater some of you remember. Very few of you might remember number of times but certainly some of you remember the stories goldwater about two weeks before the election in Tampa or St Pete's cold water came out against social security. Actually campaigned against Social Security and people that have been on congressional staffs will particularly appreciate the story so McGovern so McGovern said. We'll bury. I've always wanted to know. Why did you why in the world did you come against out against social security that close to the election and do it in Florida in Goldwater said you know George? I knew I was going to lose. It was two weeks before for the election or week for he said I knew I was going to lose. I knew everything was going wrong. My staff all about half my age. We're telling you what to do every single day Adam here my friend in the back and always telling me what to do and they said you got to do another Bass Don for the day. No you got to go to this event. I'M NOT GONNA go in. They said you've got to go senator. So he goes to this event and he said I came out against social security to get even with my staff so whether that's true or not who knows does McGovern McGovern was what he did what he did but nobody. Who benefited from this nosy? Dead at one of the me too me. One of the great marks of of a of a good one of the mark of a really good public official he did McGovern Dole Program McGovern Dole provides hot meals one hot meal a day to millions of children in the developing world. And I've been to Haiti County and I were in Haiti in one to one of those sites and that was what George McGovern did and he later Peter Actually bef- before he done that but he had done other things we're addressing world hungry met Pope John The twenty third and John The twenty third I said to McGovern he said when you meet your maker George you can say you fed the poor and what what more do you need in life than something being blessed by John The twenty twenty-third as a Lutheran. I say this Bobby Kennedy. The probably the reason I took the desk. But perhaps but Bobby Kennedy Bobby Kennedy wasn't wasn't always Bobby Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy worked for McCarthy. You know those days I I don't I don't pay over any of that bobby. Kennedy Shirley grew in his compassion and his understanding understanding the world after his brother's assassination He grew another time in the story. I tell came from dinner. Connie Naiad with Marian Wright and Peter Peter Etylin on and Marian Wright at Marian Wright a young Yale Law School graduate ran the the the head start program in Mississippi in the nineteen into midnight and sixties. Marian Wright didn't like the Kennedy family because John Kennedy's nominees for judge a for for a federal judge all had to be okayed by James eastland the the the segregation of center of Mississippi so all of his appointments of the good the good judges judges and civil rights in the south. Where our point appointees not not Kennedy appointees so she didn't have much use for him and she was asked by somebody? Bobby Senator Kennedy Kennedy and his aide. Peter Edelman were coming to see what's coming to to the Delta and Marian Wright welcome. She wasn't thrilled about it. She didn't really like them very much. What's she thought? She ended up marrying one of them but she didn't like him very much and she said Kennedy sent all the cameras away then went inside the shack into this really poor rundown shack in the delta and she said he picked up this baby she said this baby is so dirty. I didn't want to touch him. And she said his compassion in his empathy but the just was something she had never seen. And that was the Bobby Kennedy that that we think of a nine hundred sixty eight and maybe before I'm William Approx Meyer who was the most eccentric of the eight. And that includes Glenn Taylor who was even was pretty eccentric but Proxima ran for for governor and fifty two two loss. Next morning he got up and went to plant gates handed out a card. Saying I know I lost but I'll be back ran again in fifty four. Got Up the next morning. Earning went to plant gates and out a card saying I'll be back went again in fifty six when he expected to win printed up two sets of cards but again handed out the card. Saying I'm Tom. Thank you for voting for me. I didn't win. I'll be back in nineteen fifty seven. He planned to run for the Senate against McCarthy and McCarthy as you know spiral spiral down in a pretty descriptive language that some reporters used to to sort of measure McCarthy in those days but proctor won that special election then Proxima had the good luck to run in the cycle. The best cycle perhaps for a Democrat in American history fifty fifty eight sixty four seventy seventy six eighty two all democratic ears proxy Meyer. Got to the point where the only money he spent in a campaign he was so popular was is to pay for postage to send checks back to people that sent him checks in. He was able to do that partly because he ran in good years partly was becoming democratic state partly because he was a good senator and he was chairman of the Banking Committee. And that's something. I aspire to like next year but but he also he. He also was a nonstop campaigner. He would herb Kohl or actually Russ Feingold told me. He met PROX- Meyer every every decade of his life. He met him fifth in the fifties at school. He met him in the sixties outside Milwaukee County Stadium. He met him in the seventy s in a restaurant mean Proxima was always out returned home and shook and and some of you in this in this group I think work for her call and you will you will know those stories of proxy Mayer He. Herb tells the story told me that story that pro on eastern Herbs Jewish in her was at Easter Easter Sunday. Her visit a restaurant. I think in Racine and Bill Maher walks in and was gone table to table. Able shaken hands saying happy Easter to people I mean he never stopped and that's why he had that kind of life and that kind of of success in elected office. Sal Gore was a progressive by. I'm not sure that a number of these senators would have called themselves liberals progresses at the time but I don't really we care about that because I think they all were progress contributed to progressive history of our country. Al Gore was one of three southern senators that refused to sign the Communist Manifesto Stowe even though even though presented with it and confronted by strong Thurman on the floor of the Senate with all the southern press no all the southern Presa learned about got it and he said Hell no when Strom Thurmond tried to get him to sign it. That's the good news and sixty four against his son and daughters wishes out. Albert Albert Gore voted against the civil rights. act in sixty four but by nineteen seventy Albert Gore probably was willing to lose because he took on hanes worth north and cars. Well he voted against both of them in an increasingly republican state of Tennessee He was willing to do that. Knowing the political risk Nixon next and really focused his southern strategy against Gore and a few others and defeated him in one thousand nine hundred seventy Herbert Lehman the sun and uncle of the of the Lehman and brothers The founders of Leman brothers. Herbert Lehman was was the son of one of the nephew the other he was the governor immediately succeeding Franklin Roosevelt savell. And he with an easier time in the legislature probably that was a little more malleable than the Congress. At least in after the third or fourth year he pushed a little. Oh new deal Through the New York Assembly and he was he was one of He. He took on McCarthy. He fought for civil rights It wasn't always easy. He was He he was. He was a decent honorable man very philanthropic and contributed much to this country. The most the least known own of these eight was was Glenn. Taylor the singing cowboy from Kousky Idaho. Glenn Taylor ran for office seven times in one once. Nineteen in forty four for the Senate His wife was named Dora and they were. They formed the Glendora singers Glen Adore Taylor. That's that's how he made his living except when he was a to pay manufacturer an iron worker and a number of other things and Glenn doors doors doors their son was Dora. Spelled backwards A.. Rod like baseball player so I found. I'm not really discussed on social media. But I found a Rod Taylor and talk to him. He's retired Denison Denison California and A-rod A-rod told me a story is some of you know Glenn Taylor's contribution to Glen Tay if you know who he is which most stone include my brother. Charlie was the first person I ask out of twenty five people that actually knew Glen Taylor was and I didn't know who he was when I got his desk. And Glenn Taylor was the running mate for Henry Walston nineteen forty eight and Henry Wallace Henry while started off with a pretty big percentage. I mean industries indistinct kept. It just kept the celebrating the votes he had more or less but but Arab. I'm sorry but But Glenn Taylor is wife an Hey rod wintom Montgomery Alabama campaign campaign for the ticket and this story is the story. A-rod told me and I had it confirmed since that era rod. That Glenn Taylor went in to speak to a segregated audience went through the the color. The black insurance only Into speak the police police arrested him. And Glenn Taylor spent the night in the Montgomery jail in in Bull Connor's jail in nineteen forty eight bull. Connor is already the city. Sheriff back then Theodore Francis Green. You know if you're from the northeast Jim Flown Into T.F. Green Airport Francis Green is the is the victim if you will all of the of the LBJ photo he's going like this LBJ. Six three or four and T.F. Green I believe under five feet T.F. Green was a renaissance science man. He spoke five languages. He was born into great privilege. He is family. I believe were mill owners. I think that's whereas wealth came from and he was considered considered when he became governor and then senator he was elected a freshman senator at the age of sixty five but he had been governor before any remade the politics of the state when and they took over the state legislature through a series even with redistricting a series of very smart moves and he was called by the mill owners trade or to his class. Ask so following in the foot of his the footsteps of his beloved FDR The last the first the first or the last is Is Hugo Black. And I want to read some things and you'll go black and then I'll take some questions of course Young ambitious Hugo black thought he had had a tad to choose between the Ku Klux Klan. In the big mules. He chose the clan. The big mules were the steel and coal interests utility executives the corporate lawyers the bankers the wealthy planters railroad men most Alabaman's black or white resented the big mules steel workers miners railroad workers unemployed Loyd all watch the big mules feed at the trough while they can imagine no way out of their hardscrabble lies they knew they were creating great wealth for their bosses they were equally Kliesch sure they were sharing and almost none of it. The Future Governor Bibb graves described the social and economic structure of one thousand nine hundred twenty s Alabama. This way little it'll mules. Were straining and sweating to pull the heavy loaded. Hay Hay wagon up the road tied to the back of the wagon to big mules. Strolling along happily bully contentedly munching the hey graves pledged to hitch the big meals to the wagon force the big meals to shoulder. I have your portion of the tax burden and give the little mule some relief. The Klan was a group of hooded. Terrorists murderously anti-black violently anti-immigrant viciously anti-catholic antisemitic medic at the peak of its powers Alabama the mid twenties when black was elected to the Senate. The white robe clansman spread terror throughout the state. Some estimated needed half of Birmingham's registered voters belong to the clan. Clansman saw themselves as protector of all things. American shop windows advertised. Their Owners Klan membership with T. W. K. trade with a clansman signs in their windows. James S Still Grand Dragon of the realm of Alabama boasted. We had had the best people in the state. The Jefferson County. Sheriff belong so did hundreds of preachers as did prominent businesses businessman in scores of politicians Russians. And the future Senator and Supreme Court Justice Hugo black black told a friend years later I would have joined any group if it helped me get votes you know what black became black became. FDR's favorites southern senator. He renounced clan soon. After his election he became Roosevelt's favorite southern senator he with Senator Wagner is responsible for collective bargaining the forty hour work week minimum wage so much of what we we. We look with appreciation on labor law. That's made this country a much wealthier country with a much more vibrant middle class. You went on to serve longer the Supreme Court than almost anybody is time was exceeded only by justice. Douglas thirty four years in the court and what completes that that circle is after Brown. V Board of Education in black is believed to a played a major role in the unity on the court not just voting himself but encouraging others right after that you go black was burned in effigy at the law school. He graduated from an Tusk. Loose Alabama. Now read one paragraph about black blacks early. Life is a cautionary tale for ambitious young public officials a populist and a progressive from his earliest days he had the courage to fight for the least privilege has as a lawyer and as a judge but a young man he led his ambition. Flip is progressive populism onto. Its ugly racist underbelly. Ambition kept opt him from understanding. That real populism has never racist never in Semitic never pushes some people down to lift others up. Ah Close and then take questions I leave. I leave this book with the sense of optimism about the future. This is this is not. This is not the worst time in our country's history we probably we certainly have the worst president we've had in my lifetime. Maybe the worst president ever. I don't know a lot about James Buchanan but I think the worlds of the country's worst president probably ever but it's not the worst time for our country. It's not it's not McCarthy. It's not Vietnam. I mean it's not it's not the divisions in the sixties. It's not McCarthy. It's not were to. It's not the depression. It's not the civil war and I as I said I wrote this book as I wear this Canary Penn Because I believe in the power of government to make people's lives better I don't predict this yet but I'm starting to think that there is a real real real opportunity in two thousand was in twenty to launch a new progressive era What we accomplished as a nation in the teens in spite of a racist? President Woodrow Wilson but accomplishments all kinds of worker's compensation and direct election of senators and the Federal Reserve in the thirties. I was an incredible time for our country. Is You know social security. And all that came about about with with labor law reform and so much others in the so much else in the sixties The Wilderness Act the Higher Education Act Medicare Medicaid voting rights civil rights the equal Opportunity Act which led to head start. Pell grants all those kinds of things that came out of the nineteen sixties. Tells me that did we do. And this time we will know what to do with it. So that's not a prediction but it's something that is Dr King said The progress doesn't doesn't roll in on the wheels of inevitability progress doesn't role in the wheels of inevitability. It's up to us to make it happen and my commitment to you and to the people of my constituents in Ohio is to find like L. to make that happen at twenty twenty jared. We have two mikes occurred in Remy if you want to protect. I'm very interested in reading your book and as I was browsing through it. I I read what you wrote about. RFK's about RFK's ripple of hope speech in Johannesburg South Africa and about how about how it was hard for him in about how it was difficult difficult for him to get a visa and about how it was difficult for him to get a visa and also about And also about the profound inspiration that many received moved from his visit. I was wondering if you would be able to talk a little bit about that. What would what would you say? What do you see any particularly interesting things that you learned in the course of your research? RFK's visit to South Africa in June of nineteen sixty six. Thank you he. I thank you for that question and and I I I knew about his speech. The ripples of I hope speech. We've all almost any Democrat in politics as quoted that speech over the years. Some of US ad Nauseam. But I didn't know some of the background. I didn't know the part about the visa. I didn't know how he started off that speech talking comparing South Africa to the US He how he went in front of pretty hostile audience is that I don't think that was the first time Kennedy did that but in a sixty eight campaign he would often go in front of hostile audiences and challenge them. And I did that if not the first time. Certainly one of the first times in South Africa and I think he saw that that was his mission that that he could comment he had the standing to be able to do that He spoke the day after the picture. I have one page of pictures for each of the eight. The picture I chose Took pictures of Kennedy one of them is when he spoke to Cleveland City Club. He spoke the day after the assassination. He cancelled everything else that he had on his schedule. Agile in spoke there that day in talked about gun violence and the the rule to city club which is about one hundred and six years old. Now it's one of the most prestigious Christie. Just place it to speak in the country is that you have to take questions after you speak nobody presidents. All the presents have been there. Everybody has to questions Kennedy. Only time ever began to cry after his speech at the end of his speech and walked off the stage and take questions but the speech he gave their the speech he gave in Indianapolis the night before with John. Lewis in the crowd speech he gave at in South Africa. Were among America's finest. I think Nathan thank you. I think this is the first time I've ever seen in. I'm older than you. I was born in the Truman administration. I've never seen anything like this. When I was growing up the unions were the backbone of the Democratic Party and we have lost them? They are now pretty much the backbone the the trump people. Why did we lose them? And how can we get them back. WELL WE I don't agree with that assumption. Entirely first of all the problem is there aren't enough union members. Their problem is the decline of unionism. And that's that's a problem for the Democrats and it's a problem for standard of living for far far far too many workers. I I I like all of our candidates running for president like not quite all of them. I like almost all of them. I'M NOT GONNA mention names either way. Positive negative unites so. Don't even try but but I wish they would talk more to workers about work about the dignity of work and when you think about work. It's not it's not. It's not just white guys white guys. That are firefighters. It's it's hotel workers as people prepare food. It's people that work in the bookstore. I'm it's people that are working construction and people that are cleaning hotel rooms and union nonunion and if we would in then but elections answer is by contrast and we would point out that while while we're the party of workers that trump has betrayed workers. He's betrayed workers in the Midwest as he's betrayed our allies in the Middle East and he is he's before the overtime rule he's he's pulled back the overtime rule costing literally forty thousand ohioans. Several thousand dollars achieve won't raise the minimum wage. He puts people on the courts that put their thumb on the scale of justice for corporations over workers. All these things. We've got to take it to him. I have one story in here. That that sort of illustrates that I I don't ever. I'm never gonNA compromise on civil rights. I'm never gonNA compromise mizen. Women's rights are or. I'm never gonNA give into the NRA. But I get. I don't do really really well in rural areas and small towns but I get enough votes and I get enough votes because I talk to them at their work at their worksites not not literally but not not but figuratively sometimes literally that that we've got to talk to them about their work about their kids education about their health care about how trump's trying to take away their consumer protections preexisting condition and one quick story in here I was at a Ford plant during the Gore or Bush race in two thousand. I was in the cafeteria just sitting having coffee with seven or eight. UAW members and all of them were voting for except one. And I said why you vote for Bush Russian he said because Gore wants to take my guns and the guy next to me pointed to me and he said sheriff's got the same position on guns Gore does and he said yeah but shared fights. I fights from me at work. And that's that's what we need to do. In a means talking about the dignity of working honoring and respecting work. And we we didn't we didn't the Union vote vote was about fifty fifty last time better in some states than others. So we've not we've lost too many of them but we can get back particularly when you point out. Trump's betrayal thank you. Yeah sure Senator Brown thank you writing a book a few things one the influence you okay. That's better okay. Thank you for writing the joke. The influence at Colonel Glenn Center mets westbound hat on your career and the third thing is that I'm a retired union employees from the railroad. I want more Amtrak. I love to be able to take a train from Cleveland to see your Cincinnati reds but no such thing exist The thing is party needs more direction and more discipline and it might mean a change of the Charity Party. Because he's been missing in Action Shen and finally he's never going to be president. He's not going to be president yet but Tim Ryan has to get back in a fight so become more visible because the next vice president at states on the Democratic ticket is so I'm speaking to now or representative Ryan. Well thank you for that first of all the decision of the presidential candidates second back in my seat if I were to elected to any other office higher office would go to Republican governor to appoint in. That's pretty troubling doing for me and it makes me a lot less interested Tim Ryan. We've tried to get him to run for Governor Senate in the past so I'll just leave it at that. Connie corddry writing writing Amtrak. Today we did call last night we came got up at seven S- morning. Her took a train at seven. And as we arriving we said my God I wish we had high speed rail and Ohio. What what what that would mean for our country would would be so much Metzenbaum and Glenn? I knew John Kani and I got to be actual real friends with Johnny in the last ten years of his life and we just love the man. He's such an honorable decent man. I have is off of my first. After my first two years I moved into the Barack Obama Office for great years. I now I'm John Glenn's Office in in the Cabinet Hart building and we just think the world. Then that's involved was very effective. Senator Metzenbaum showed you. You could be progressive. You could be pro labor. You could be outspoken in. You can win Metzenbaum. I remember the slogan he used was Howard Metzenbaum. He's on our side in. I remember saying to my pollster in media person at six. I WanNa have that when he used that slogan share brownies on our side. She said You haven't earned it yet so I took that for an. I've been working to try to earn it so I'm going to address you not so much as yourself but morrison symbol and the one I'm concerned about. What is as good as it is to be bringing out these personalities in you know sort of reflecting on on the past and all that I don't get the sense I mean if you're a senator and the situation that this world in this country is in right now and I don't see you present game an actual series of problems problems and possible solutions where we're GONNA go and again I dress more? That your senator than you personally. So my question is is the government itself the senators everybody aware of how all serious and how difficult the situation is now for our country and for the world. I don't get that well. Okay Fair enough. I I think. Many of US czar The purpose of the night was to talk about how progressives have had such victories how progressive eras have moved our country forward Progressives don't win frankly very often but when we do we win really big and we really big meaning we pass Medicare we pass those security. We passed civil rights. We then play defense because the right wing comes back with Fury Emerson talked about histories of fight between the innovators and the conservators conservators. Today's concern is to hold onto their wealth and privilege in. We'll do anything to keep it. It's up to us to challenge that if we went in twenty twenty. I've I've I've already asked my Senate Banking Committee staff in. This committee is called Banking Housing and Urban Affairs Urban Affairs Republicans have forgotten housing and Urban Affairs. Part Art Housing is going to be in capital letters. And we're already preparing ideas if we take over in two thousand twenty so i. I think you'll find that throughout Our our goal is to is to prepare for that and at the same time. Make sure that it happened. So I I take the admonition and the and the the challenge enj- I take a genuinely We have a lot of work to do. Not Everybody looks the way I do. I understand that but there are a lot of us. There's going to be were. We're going to address climate change. We're GONNA make. When I was in New Hampshire and Laconi? I met a woman roughly my age. WHO's worked in childcare for forty years and she said you know childcare needs to be seen as a public good imagine if this country if we if we coming out of the box in twenty twenty in terms of family leave in terms of sick days in terms of vacation in terms of parentally all these? There's so many things we can do. And we stored them up in. We're ready and I think you'll see that in twenty twenty thank you so I want to be positive about twenty twenty as well But I'm concerned about the seventy five days between the election and January twentieth. Do you if Mr trump loses do you think there will be a peaceful transfer of power on January twentieth. I I heard people talk about that. I thought about that. I don't know I would this might be a reach. I would actually expect my Republican Republican colleagues to do the right thing at that point that's seeds life. Seems like a reach for their cowardly behavior in the last three years from the sixteen gene campaign to now. I think that I don't know I think if trump if he already actually become president I think trump trump would have continued to run against her and try to try to sabotage everything including talking about the vote count and the electric everything he would do. I think it's a perilous earliest time but I I'm optimistic enough even about my republican colleagues. Who have shown less than spine so far that if this election if if it comes out the way I think it will and it's decisive that That he will be shown the door and forced to the door. If necessary. Just just a heads up. We have three more people on the side and then there are two people behind me so we'll just have those last live questions sir. I just WANNA say huge fan I worked on your campaign when I was in College Allege College Ohio Wesleyan. I'm also from Wisconsin so the home of great political progressives and Ohio and Wisconsin Have Very Salim similar political climates. But you're the only Democrat in Ohio. That's when statewide several years. Why do you think you're the one who wins and breaks through? We've not had a good enough farm system in Ohio in part in part Ohio's is getting harder Our demographic mix hasn't hasn't changed much. I mean you can see what's happened in Virginia especially some of you live in Virginia and his status is no longer even a competitive state. Hardly I mean I hope today tonight proves it again and North Carolina's next in Georgia. And maybe even Texas and South Carolina's got some good signs and all that Arizona Colorado's ARATU almost already there. Arizona Ohio Michigan Pennsylvania Wisconsin or a little easier than Ohio. I think you've gotTa have. You GotTa have a message of talking to workers in their workplace. As I said earlier I I you know I was going to be a competitive state in twenty eight and twenty twenty. It's harder than Michigan Wisconsin Pennsylvania. Yeah but it's going to be the other the one piece of good news in Ohio that I've seen is My daughter is part of this daughters city council member on the ballot again this year for a second term right now and As soon as I leave here I'm going to be talking to her expecting the votes to come in around that time and she She and a number of other mostly women mostly under forty five almost all under forty five. A number of people of color men and women are building this farm team because the local local governments were the political power on our side is And I expect that to pay off. We have some really good young female candidates. It's in addition my daughter but I mean we have a number of people in. It makes me optimistic for building this party in the future. Thanks in your your senator is one of the best. And I don't mean Ron Johnson. I love Tammy Baldwin there. My Name's Naomi I just recently moved to DC. But I was just wondering what about this. Political climate keeps you up at night and what about it makes you hopeful what that keeps me up at night is is well thanks to undermine trump just just the the the fear that we don't be trump. I think we will but just all the things that can happen were all concerned about what this president does next. I still can't believe my colleagues have shown no courage in standing up to him And more long-term I fear what's happening happening with climate change and and we can't wait much longer and I met with about ten CEOS today all of whom some from energy companies even who are really elite pushing hard on doing the right thing climate Some of them not in the meeting but some energy companies are acting like they're doing more than they are but I I worry about that for your generation but I also worry about the thing that got me into politics civil rights and human rights and in how much we have lost with trump trump. But I really do believe we. We begin to gain it back in January of twenty twenty one. Thanks I my name is Joe. I'm from Miller City Ohio. Oh its population one thirty six and putting them county. Don't know if you know where that is but my question is I have only been liberal coastal Lee for about seven years now but before that I you liberal and Miller city to know harder to be there that that this but I was shocked about two thousand sixteen election and I'm very close to my family in very much in touch with them and even I had completely lost lost touch with what was going on in rural areas but your name is one that is not heated in my family and I'm curious as a ringing endorsement. The trust you trust me it is when it comes to Democrats it is but my question is how do you stay in touch with concerns of people. Aw in rural areas like that because I I mean I was only here for three years and I completely lost touch and I'm wondering how you A. US senator who has a lot more going on can stay in touch touch with home every weekend. Cleveland we're Jonny Lee County I live. That's that helps them. Yeah I mean it's I I don't I don't I don't. I'm not beloved in everywhere in the stem even beloved period. I mean and one by seven points so But I am. I didn't do particularly well and even the place I grew up. We I want eighty eighty eight counties and high won sixteen of one the big industrial on the big metro counties. I won the lake. Your three counties in Lake Erie Partly is my brother has a theory that I think it's got some semblance them some credence to it. That Tourists counties along Lake Erie is a or different kinds of small counties and then I wanted three university counties one and where my wife Teaches Kent State and Bowling Green and allow university our. We're doing badly in smaller towns. But I'm on the Veterans Committee on the AG Committee. I do a lot in those those communities but it doesn't really seem to translate into votes but it's it's listening and talking. I don't do big town halls I I rarely speak to a group in Ohio. Like this in this kind of a format I I do roundtables of fifteen or twenty people and I listen to them and I get ideas. And that's what I bring back to to Washington and and work on. It's also what you do outside of the the legislative part of my job. I learned a long time ago. I I I know that. In small air small towns there were hospitals are in real financial trouble if if trump wins the lawsuit on ACA Ross models have got a business. I I organize it. Those rural hospitals. I talked about what it means and listen to them. I think that absolutely matters When I also learned there's a Abraham Ram Lincoln quote that I love that he is staff went into staying away house and win the war and free the slaves and preserve the UNI said? No I gotta go out and get my public opinion baths and I. I look at politics like that that I go out and listen to people and it's a lot more interesting than talking. Frankly I learn stuff and I learned about good. But I try to talk to people people in their workplace whether they're a farmer whether they're a shopkeeper whether they're factory worker and I think that helps I again. I don't I don't win. Places like Miller city heady although I heard they don't hate me they don't vote for me. That's a huge accomplishment. Yourself and you don't have to worry sorry about my family and Ohio voting for you as you know Miller see they live in Shaker Heights or the environs of Shaker Heights. Okay Okay but close enough Cleveland. Detroit Cleveland Heights. Yeah okay seventy eighty percent areas. We got it. I I have two things one is listening to you today. I'm you said that Robert Candidate that that you pick the the desk probably because of Robert Kennedy. Now you've written the book. Would that still be your choice. So that's my question and then my comment The night you are sworn Nanas senator. I said how proud I was of you for taking Howard Metzenbaum because I worked for rebound and here. It is nineteen years later and I'm still very proud of you and probably even more proud of you in the work that you've done and I just want to actually and I want to wish you a happy birthday. Thank you not today. Today's four days away but thank you. You know the question who would who would you pick now. Well I don't know I don't know what the configuration other deaths are. Configuration is and other deaths and I don't think I don't know that these are the these are not the most progressive senators senators. There are this desk since you've just done all this week. Oh who would I pick this sort of. I'd most like to be like I guess I start with. There are no giants in the Senate. I used to think there was when I was fifteen or twenty. They're all human beings. They're all flawed. Every one of these eight is pretty flawed McGovern had humility. That was unusual and politics. Glenn Taylor had courage. That was pretty unusually took out a mississippi the worst just you and being maybe in the twentieth century in the Senate Theodore Bilbo from Mississippi. He was unseated was not serious. He'd refused a seat. Because Glenn Taylor stood up and stopped. Stopped it You Black had the best journey the furthest journey from where we started so I guess I would take the easy way out and pick parts of each of them. Sorry Senator Brown. I'M NOT GONNA ask you about this sad and depressed state of the Cleveland browns her. I'm already ready for baseball season spring training but I happen to be a person who believes that the only issue as to who should be see the democratic comedy for president is the person who's best able to beat Donald Trump. And I happen to think that the person person in this country most likely to be able to be Donald Trump is looking at me right now and I would ask you. And maybe implore you and I think there's a lot of people in this room who would agree with me. We cannot afford to lose this election even if it means giving up a Senate seat in Ohio the country country needs to beat Donald Trump. The world needs to be Donald Trump. Please please think about running for president if it's not too late thanks I I am thank you Connie an icon. I went to the four early states. spent spend two months thinking seriously about it in the end. You've got you've got a really really really WANNA be president and I didn't have that dream. I mean anybody that's known me a number of people that's Room I've tone for twenty five years and I've never had that great desire to do it. I really don't think you can one of the one of the reasons I went back to the Miller. City question One of the reasons I have one in the past I think is i. I have joy in this. I I think what what I I've always loved Hubert Humphrey because of the term happy warrior. And I I mean I understood why in sixty eight people unhappy with Johnson. And all that and I'd love Humphrey had my desk I would love to have written about him But I think one of the most important things as people expect their elected officials to be optimistic and to bring some joy to the campaign into the job. I just don't think I could have summoned up the the joy to be the right kind of candidate I I I'm reminded of a You know

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RTAB #110: Joe Banner

The Business of Sports With Andrew Brandt

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RTAB #110: Joe Banner

"Contracts, salary caps. Why do I were favorite teams make some of the moves they do. It's usually the money. It's time for the business of sports with Andrew Brandt. Hey, there, boys and girls welcome to another dish in of the business of sports with Andrew brand. It's brought to you by bet online dot AG. Football season is here as you know, as we're talking about where can you make your online wagers for NFL in college, the best places bet online dot AG you can go there. Take full advantage of the best bonuses in the business. The promo code podcast, one all caps peo- d. c. a. s. t. o. n. e. and you get a fifty percent sign a bonus rag. When you sign up bet online that AG your online sportsbook experts. Now, this week's edition of the businesses sports with Joe banner, my old friend, he is run the eagles for many years and was president of the Browns when they had a player named Josh Gordon, he'll talk about him from an inside. Look, what happened with Josh Gordon at the Browns. We know he's now patriot, Joe will get into all that we talk about issues around the league that can Leo max situation how the raiders screwed that up. Talk about issues with Carson Wentz getting back into the NF. NFL how long you wait for those kind of things officiating league business all would Joe banner, former president of the Philadelphia Eagles in the Cleveland Browns. And now the businesses sports, which Obana. Joe get right into it. Josh Gordon was there when you were running the Cleveland Browns, tell us what you can tell us about him now released from the Browns. I'm sorry traded to the patriots. And my reaction was the talent just is too much temptation for teams even the patriots to turn down knowing all these issues surprised that Cleveland stayed with Josh Gordon, this long, and that the patriots are now taking their chances with them. So I am surprised. They stay that long. Although, as you stay well, he is an elite talent, and that gives people a lot more. Time and potential mistakes before people want to give up with them. But you know, he came to them, people forget. He came to them with a very challenging history. And now he's been at least six years. And outside of the one year that I was there, which he put fourteen games and said, serious significant problems of dramatically affected his ability to show his ability a sense. So I am surprised not surprised the Browns getting some time. I'm surprised they gave him as much time as they did, and I'm really surprised by the page. I mean, I guess I was naive and I respect the patriots have culture. They found certain players that have thrived in their system that haven't thrived other places, but I'm not revealing. It hit Justice. Now after a long time of denying been quite open about the fact that he has substance abuse problems both with drugs and alcohol and easy gone through the list publicly. I mean, they're not just some people say, it's just, we'd everybody, you know, we'd, but the big deal, but he's now knowledged publicly that his issues go well beyond we'd. So I have not seen the patriots. They've taken guys that are challenging guys that have thrived at least I'm not aware of and taking a chance on a guy that has this long history of problem that includes significant drug abuse. So I'm I am surprised on both ends of us. You mentioned the year you're you with him. He played fourteen games and I'm inferring by your answer. That's that's the most he's played. What'd you see talent wise. And what were your. You know, in managing that situation, and I know you have to be true to confidentiality about some of his issues, but from a from a management point of view, running the team. How did you manage it? So you know, we, we did have the one year that we were there in which he succeeded in playing playing very well, and frankly, avoiding any positive tests, rest ascensions. Any other things he's dealt with? We did that really. We hired a psychologist and a psychiatrist to work with the team. Although truthfully are only a couple of plays, they working with. Josh was one of them and you know, we made it through the years the way I wanna say it. It may have appeared from the outside, like everything was going fine, and he was playing great. And I do think he did a lot better in that year. Then he has any other year in terms of behavior and his play. But you know, again, he's gone public with this. I have enough going to talk about testing and all that kind of stuff, but I still have a little freedom. He's acknowledged he, you know, has very significant challenges and in his off field life and. I have reason to question that he's conquered those problems. Talent wise, what everybody sees when people talk about, you know, a healthy cleaner, hardworking, Josh Gordon would be the top three, five, seven. You pick the number clearly in the very, very top group of wide receivers in the league in an unusual way. By the way, he's not a great route runner. He doesn't get himself open very well, but he's so big and strong and powerful. And when clear headed and concentrating phenomenal hands, catching the ball, you know what they call fifty fifty balls, exceptional at that kind of stuff. Most of the guys that are really great receivers are good runners, and some of them are also really big, Josh is not a great route runner, but he's unbelievably effective because he's just so strong. He can dominate anybody physically. You talked about psychologists, psychiatrists working with a few players, I guess, primarily him, did you know? I know there are people listening, the do have addiction issues. Did you look at this as. We can't control this. We just have to manage it or we think we can exercise these demons. So remember I'm in the second year that Josh is in the league which five years ago now. And at that point we still had hope that we could not just manage him but actually get him to a better place. And in the year that I was there, that was our goal. It wasn't just to keep them on the field is actually trying to work with him to make some life changing changes, and you know, focuses and priorities, and frankly, people he surrounded himself with and all the kind of classic stuff you hear about. I think by now it's five years later. That's a real stretch to think that's going to happen. It's not hopeless. But I think the chances are a lot less that he could make that big a transformation, and maybe it was five years ago and maybe we even kidding ourselves five years ago, but our intent and what we brought people in to try to help with was really potentially life changing type of changes that he would make an his life that hopefully would have raced all the stuff that's happened since then. Yeah. And as always, say, greater talent, greater tolerance, even tolerance for that level of talent ran out in Cleveland. When you saw John Dorsey statement, you know, you know, John is I do so well on Saturday evening. I believe that you know their patients had run out there moving away from Josh. Did you see that as an invitation to teams to to make trade offers, or did you see they're releasing? It's funny when I, I thought I was actually on the phone with somebody who works for an NFL team. And my first reaction was, what are they announcing their wait until Monday for? Why don't they just do it. And it seemed like part of the motive there was to send the message to people there. You know, listen, we're gonna do our best as you say, the more talent, the more patients. But at some point we've really just we trying to change the culture. So I my first reaction what they were trying to really make that statement that I thought statements even more powerfully just say, that's it. We're done, you're out of here, but fairly quickly I thought about, I said, wow, I wonder if they think that they can actually get some value for the guy. And I still thought that they no chance of eating anything other than a contingent pick. There is some contingency in the trade, but in any circumstance, they get a pick. How are my initial reaction was you know the opposite of what they did, and it turns out that what they did had merit. I've talked to enough people that I still don't believe that eight or ten teams call, but I do think they had three or four and you know, they were able to to make a deal and get a firm pick for. A risk or listen, Josh couldn't go too many teams because I really characterize this kind of high risk high return. And as you seen most teams, no matter how solid you either is some cultural risks to bringing guy in, has these kind of problems and sending a message that you're willing to kind of put up with this stuff. But the patriots culture is so solid and so strong. The truth is probably has very minimal risk to them. Whereas even if things went, well, whoever else had done this actually would have been going into a my mind with high risk. I return, they actually may be very low risk high return, which probably puts them in a unique position to do it if they're willing to take the risk which again is my viewing of them, historically is a very unusual risk for them to take it's different than just taking troubled player or someone with a lot of talent that didn't succeed somewhere else. The nature of Josh's problems are, you know, much longer term and much deeper. And again, I'm just saying it that way because he's acknowledged public himself. Then I think the general public is even recognizing this point. I'm glad you said that too, because I see a narrative about, well, the patriots they've taken on Corey Dillon and Albert Hanes worth, and even Randy mom on and then and Chad Johnson. This is a different kettle of fish, isn't it? Totally totally, totally different. And those guys, listen, those guys that you're referencing there benefited greatly and definitely have more success and conform to assist them like they hadn't other places and the patriots deserve a lot of credit for that. And frankly, it gives them a competitive advantage to be able to take a chance here and there on guys like that, but they have a coaching system and coaching staff and culture that can deal with it. But those names you all just mentioned are very different nature. The nature of the problem, the history of the problem. I mean, listen, you heard it and it's been kind of luted too. But I mean the the strato broke the camel's back to last. Warning in Cleveland. That addition to kinda his behavior was he was late and the keyword is again everything we know about somebody with a drug addiction problem is things like punctuality responsible are fleeting and everything we know about Bill fella chicken, the patriots is there you know, basic responsibility of being in the right place at the right time for the right meetings and knowing the plays is not something they're going to put up with for any period of time at all. So Justice can have to change very dramatically very quickly. Or this could be a very short term situation. But as you said, it's a solid fifth, I mean, when I saw that come out like you like you thought I said, all right, they can get a contingent, seventh, but then tells you there was competition. Somebody offered seven, somebody, six, maybe even higher than a fifth, but it gets to bidding situation and they did get assault pick. So he flames out. It's not like that pick goes away. Right, right. Nope, they, they get the Browns. Get that as I understand the tray that fifth pick, no matter what you know does flame out. They get back seventh pick which reduces the value of the fifth slightly, but they the benefit they get into the trade is either a pure fifth or a fifth, offset slightly by a seventh and listen as you know, you've done this much as I have, who knows what they had. They were able to create the perception right. There was competition and other bidders. I know for sure there are other inquiries. Now, whether there were other bidders or not, or whether they would just success in trading the perception. Or other bidders. Nobody's probably ever going to tell us, but you can create the leverage just by creating the perception that you're bidding against other people, and whether that's what happened here, not we'll probably never know. But yeah, I mean, it did seem a little choreographed. Obviously, we talked about one just release them Saturday will it came out after the waivers on Saturday, which ended four o'clock. And you know soon after that we had all the national reporters saying, there's a market whether there was or not as as you and I know evidently it was enough to to get it spurred for for Monday trade. Yeah. Well, we know there was a market. We don't know how many teams we don't what the other bidders bid. If anything, we know there was a market because he got traded. And again, I myself can tell you I've spoken to other teams that have told me not a whole bunch. I don't think it's as many as what's being reported, but there were other teams that told me that in fact, they called the Browns and looked into it. I, frankly, I had a couple of people call me and ask me, you know what I thought. And when people do that, I try not to give an opinion. I just described what I know let them make the decision. So I know that what other teams looking into it. I don't know if anybody else made a bid or what the patriots were competing against, but give credit to the Browns. They managed, you know, get value where many thought they wasn't any. I mean, I've been reported to, I mean, we had a trade for Josh in the year. He was there that you know has been reported many times which we had an offer for a second round draft, pick plus a player, not a great player, but it contributing player. And the reason we. Did that wasn't because we had given up hope on him getting on track wasn't because we didn't realize how great he was. It was because I couldn't see situation which you could trust him for the long run. You know, how do you, how do you build your team for the next year? If you're not sure if he's going to still be there, how do you consider resigning him if you knowing it any moment? He could be in serious trouble and you have nothing to show for the investment you made. So we, we wanted to convert it into something we could count on and what happened. Even at that point, we were very worried about whether we would ever be able to count on that long term. And what happened with that proposed trade. Well, we had some people in building without naming any names. Just were consumed by the talent and the possibility, and decided that the not making a trade was the better decision at the time. Yeah, a talented, something the NFL I guess all. 'cause he was he had a long history and we received that offer that people. Now it's from the forty Niners and when Jim Harbaugh was still there and they were competing for what they thought was a reasonable chance to win a Super Bowl. And you know, so the the possibility of getting somebody even short term that could make that kind of a difference was appealing to that. But meantime, they went through five years of challenges and difficulties and no real playing time and got a fifth pick instead of a second pick. 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Slash brand now back to Joe banner in the business of sports when a go round the legal little bit as you and I do has his regular visits to the podcast on the business, the NFL, which is the busiest time to me is right before the season starts. We saw some major activity. I know you were very vocal on Twitter about the Khalil Mack trade. I gotta admit, I didn't think it would happen. I thought the raiders would wait amount in each show up because they're never be our trade with mega-contract combined for what they're wanting in boy, was I wrong, so so they, they got the two number ones and the Chicago went all in not only on the number ones. But on the contract, how did you see that? And is there any defense in your mind for the way the rent raiders handled that. While the second part is easy. I took the raiders just made a terrible mistake. They didn't have to give up the two all they had to do is agree to contract. If you take the eighteen nineteen twenty million dollar defensive lineman that have signed over the last three or four years and just updated a bit for the increase in the cap. The contract came out about where it should have been. I mean, it should have been a twenty two twenty three million dollar deal for Donald for MAC for the, you know, top top couple of, you know, these are defensive player of the year type of players. So for me, the rate has made a huge mistake. They were smart to pick him. They hit a grand slam on the pick, and they should have found a way to get the deal even if they had overpay them a little bit. I mean, I don't know what they thought. You know, von Miller had received nineteen plus just a little over nineteen million three years ago, the Kappa gone up thirty five million dollars since his deal, almost twenty percent. No. If you just add twenty. Eighty percent of the nineteen million. All you're doing is give him the same value based on the higher capital comes out between twenty two and twenty three. So I really can't understand what the raiders thinking was currently negotiations way back in February and then no, no conversations after that. I don't understand that either. I mean, you got that kind of a play. I'm sure you did. You have kind of an ongoing dialogue. You're trying to keep things in place when not always easy to do not always successful, but that's what you're working. They go six months without talking. I don't get it. I think that the bears getting back a second round, pick a huge piece of justifying the value to me know and, and here's how I look at it. Research tells you that even if you're a hall of fame, general manager only hidden at about fifty percent of your first round picks. So you give up two first round picks. You probably gave up one quality player. The chances that you got one quality plays anywhere near as good as Maca Costa zero. Now as you would. I both know there's also the benefit of the difference in the contract financing, potential cap them as well. And there's we're getting the second round. Pick back to me kind of makes it worth giving up the two ones which probably translates into giving up one very good player, but not as good as MAC and using up a whole bunch of extra capital versus draft picks. But now you're getting a second round. Pick back that has a forty percent chance of producing a solid starter versus a fifty percent chance in the first round. So when I first heard the two ones, plus some other picks, I was like, okay, maybe I would have done that, but that's pretty aggressive. When I actually heard the detailed if they got the second round, pick back, I thought, you know what I would have done this in a second for me that tipped the scales from a really tough decision into something that I felt competent. I've been in the same position, had chance, MC San deal. I would have done it if I were Chicago. Only thing I questioned for Chicago is they're not already made team, right? They've young quarterback young team, and I don't know. I mean, I seems like he's the kind of player require acquire to be that missing piece with a contending team bears are better. Don't get me wrong, but they're not contending with the Vikings and Packers. So here's the only thing I would say. And this gets caught up on the media sometimes and fans to, I think they're making a deal for the next five to six years. And if they're right about Trubisky which is a big question Mark and personally, I have some doubts about that, but they obviously believe in Trubisky. By the time, Trubisky is like in his third and fourth year in the league when if they're right about him, he should really becoming a difference making quarterback. He's the second pick on the draft. I mean mariota's the second pick in the draft once quarterbacks you should be getting if you're picking with the second pick of the draft a quarterback. So by the second or third year, MAC is there which is the third or fourth year that Trubisky has been in the league. You have a quality defense with an elite. I think hall of fame potential defensive player of the defense. Combined with a reasonably talented offense and what should be an emerging star quarterback. Now, if you missed them the quarterback, Matt, what else you do? You're going to be mediocre. So that's the the, the the bet that they've made and listen if they end up wrong about Trubisky. There's still going to be a group of the Bridgewater tyrod Taylor type of people out there that you know better than some of the quarterbacks will one with fan, nominal defenses and just pretty good offenses go again, time will tell, but that's how I would have rationalized in my head, if I got the quarterback wrong, I'm in deep trouble no matter what. And if I got the quarterback right in two or three years, this could be the guy that makes me an elite team versus a good team. That's why would have been thinking about it? Yeah, I looked at spending to obviously we know this having quarterback on rookie deal. Even at the top of the draft six, seven million a year average is such a bargain allows you to allocate resources so many what they are spending the bears seventy six million dollars this year on three players, not quarterbacks. Alan Robinson KENDALL fuller and MAC. He just can't do that. If you're paying a quarterback twenty five million dollars, you just can't do that. That would be over one hundred million. So it's interesting how they had a huge spending on three or four players. I'm not even talking about the tight end Burton too. So interesting strategy. And what they need to do is by the time they get to this, you know, two or three years into MAC time in Chicago. They won't be able to have all three of those guys or if they do, they've got like a year left. So what they need to do is whether it's through primarily the draft is the main way they can solve this problem. They've gotta be finding guys that can step into those roles that are going to be less expensive. Yeah. Now we're talking about once they have to assume Trubisky has been and what they have to start to pay. If true Bisky isn't good. Are they have an inexpensive quarterbacks list whether it's the draft or what's to say, Bridgewater type of person, they could actually perpetuate this for fairly long time. I mean, look at the just won the Super Bowl. It's not like they don't have any expensive players, but because the quarterback is so inexpensive, as you said, they can distribute that money through the rest of the roster for the time being and you know really created an advantage. So this is timing question. By the time they get to the point where they need to pay Trubisky. They won't be able to have three guys making seventy eighty million dollars not even including the quarterback. Right. Quickly on the eagles. You mention them. Where you and I aren't doctors, but t me ran here for so many years. The eagles has just made the move to wince surprised by too early to late, give them more time. Obviously they had the Super Bowl MVP plan on, you know, taken that position, but. I just your thoughts on the timing moving there in week three. He my only answer is philosophical one because we don't know the. Yeah, true status. What the doctors are saying is, you know that that some decisions you literally just deferred to the doctor, but I do think the right answer was. Be very careful on the conservative side. And no need to rush probably a quarterback for the next ten maybe fourteen fifteen years twenty three years old twenty four years old. So ever on the side of missing some games, it probably doesn't affect you this year in a negative way. So what if you got up to one and two or two and to start is still probably gonna make the playoffs. It's still probably going to win the division. You still even have a chance of having a buy a home field advantage, but don't do anything that takes the risk over the next ten or twelve years or expecting with the play for you. And my sense is they think that's what they've done now who get on the field. And we'll see in the doctor's obviously I just making educated guesses no way they can promise nothing can happen. But philosophically, if I were in the room, I'd be sitting there going if we think he can back by week one. Let's wait at least week three or four. If we think he should be back the week, three, let's wait at least five or six. I would have been doing for at least a couple of weeks, the extra safe. If I were there. Yeah, we'll find out remaining minutes with Joe banner got asked about levian bell. I've been vocal on Twitter. I don't get it. I've been an agent. I don't see sitting out to like save carries for the future. You and I run teams. I'm not looking at levian bell in two thousand nineteen saying I'm gonna panel lot more because he didn't play much in two thousand eighteen. I'm gonna say a year older. So eight hundred ninety five thousand a week. I just don't get it. Is there anything you see in this that I'm not missing? No, not in the math is is simple. That's why you just wonder if the player just being in a very headstrong stubborn or the agent not walk through the eye. He had a deal offered from the Steelers which included thirty three million dollars open. I two years of the deal during what she'd be twenty seven and twenty eight. Now, if he skips the first ten games, he's lost almost nine million dollars, right? He'd have to go out and get a deal in the first two years of the deal. Paid them forty, two million just to break even. And as you say, he's twenty nine at the end of the first two years instead of twenty eight and you and I can say categorically zero chance any running back is getting forty two million dollars over the first two years of any deal. And here we're talking about a player that's held up multiple times and been suspended multiple times. So this ver the options for him. Apparently in his mind where take the Steelers deal, which was light on the guarantees, but was actually pretty frontloaded. Right? But that was the best they were going to do. He had a choice, take that deal or do what he's doing. What he's doing makes no sense compared to the take the deal option, pure math. So I'm with you. I don't get it at all tickets the middle week, three. I've been wrong both weeks. I think he shows up is don't get it. This whole ten week thing to me is nonsense. I think he'll show of this weekend, but I've said the past two weeks last couple minutes, Joe quick impressions of weeks one and two in the NFL. What jumps out of you? The obvious things that fits Patrick Mahomes is something beyond those headlines that really jumps out these. The opening of the season this year. I'm gonna go to things one, positive, one, negative. I mean, yeah, it's not that long ago. That was a real worry that the league quality of play was going to go down because they weren't enough great quarterbacks coming along to replace the great quarterback. So we're aging. And as you watch some of these young guys that are playing quarterback in the league and you mentioned homeless, but he's, he's one of a group. It's really exciting to put that aside and know the quality of the game is is still in good hands as by far the most important position. The field the negative for me is I've been somebody who for years and years. It's been annoyed by people who over-focus on the officiating. Yeah. And even working for teams when the coach planes efficiently, you know what he meant. The ranch may get ten things wrong, but the likely that they get five hundred for you and five. But the other team and people that have been kind of officiating hurting the game. I've been Pooh poohing that for years and I hate to say, but I'm joining the club. I'm so. Frustrated by I worked in the league at twenty is I've been a fan of the game my whole life. I know the rulebook reasonably well, and I sit there. I don't even know what they're calling. Sometimes why they're calling it and rules are changing very fundamental things. I applaud the intense because most of the chains were around trying to make the game safer, but I don't think they're achieving the goal and they're lessening the game. So I've, I've recently become a convert to being really, really frustrated what I see on the officiating front and how it's impacting the play of the game and the joy of watching. Again. Where you are you just referring to the quarterback stuff or or you know, protecting and, and these, the clay Matthews, these ridiculous penalties hitting the quarterback more more generally. Yeah, both the quarterback is certainly conspicuous and we just came through math of impact of. I just don't even have a league as defending the call. But anyway, but I'm also, you know, the lowering the head rule. I mean, it's still happening. They just decided to stop calling it after the preseason games, and you know, running back to doing it almost every play, at least there's a group of running backs do it almost every play. I just think they decided, listen, we don't want to be humiliated by undoing the rule. We just put in place, but let's just call it virtually never and only in the most extreme extreme infants because it's still happening a lot, but suddenly they just stopped calling it. So it's, it's, it's things like that. I mean, the interference calls. You know, there was always a great tough call, but I feel like this warm. More kind of weight. They just barely touched each other. How could you tell offense or defense and this flags at creating, you know, forty yard penalties. I, it's, it's. Looking at it more negativity from somebody that was actually annoyed by the people who are so focused on the officiating actually joining the group it's you are. So we out of time, but this was great as always you're ominously. One of my repeat guests regular on the business sports podcasts always love our chats. Thanks for being with me that lead to thanks very much great stuff as always from regular guests on the business sports podcast. My good friend, Joe banner, former president of the eagles in the Browns, get great insights in Josh Gordon and all things NFL. Now I'm gonna get to listener questions before I do. Let's hear word from Lincoln talent solutions. This is really important, Lincoln. You don't know not necessarily for job hires that they are really valuable for that. You can find the personal help grow your business with Lincoln because the right hire is so important makes a huge impact on your business. Lincoln jobs, they match people your role based on Moore who they are there skills interests. Even how open they are to new opportunities. Your job get seen by the right people. You know, listen, I was surprised to see this. Most linked in members haven't visited job boards, but nine out of ten members are are open new opportunities and you can only reach him through linked in. 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I've felt more apathetic about fifteen than I have ever and I think it's because of the three years of uncertainty of tags. And you know, I think it's something that probably negatively impacted the franchise in terms of their fan base and by something that hasn't really been seen the NFL. I just wonder if other people try to go through it with their player, you know, would that negatively impact their actual overall business and go your work? So keep up. Keep it up. Great question and listen, you're speaking to the choir here. I was born and raised in Washington. DC went to games from an early age has Redskin fan all the old RFK stadium before the one they're now playing in Landover. I'm actually going this weekend to see my old Packers play the Redskins down there. So huge fan growing up. I lost that phantom along the way. It's interesting with cousins because what they've done is really made him the most leverage player in recent memory in sports in the sport of football because they gave him these offers before the franchise tag that weren't really offers. They knew Bruce sounds of former agent. He knew those were not deals that Kirk cousins was gonna take any didn't take him. So they rented him for two years. Forty, four million dollars twenty. The first year twenty four. The second year was a good deal for them. Well, they didn't have to sock in sixty million guarantees, but probably not because they were just treading water. Kirk cousins was a player. They liked a lot of player. They didn't love. So what they did was make these kind of offers, maybe we can get him. Take it rather than offers that, you know, they know he would take. I think it set them back because again, they're playing with lame duck situations at the most important position. Now they've really shown their hand. They let cousins go get Alex Smith. They think they're more advantaged position with Alex Smith than they were with Kirk cousins. You know, I don't know. They had so many empty seats against the colts. I don't think they'll have a lefty seats against the Packers such draw rarely come to Washington, but this is so unique to me. I grew up where you couldn't get near Redskins game. It was the ticket in town at galvanized an area that you know me now more than ever needs cow nizing so much fuller vacation, so much division the Redskins were and it sounds like they no longer Aric lease according to Patrick these sport league team. The important thing in sports in the DC, Maryland, Virginia area. It's funny as sad that that has changed. The cousins thing didn't help. Cousins was a lame duck. It seemed like the whole time they liked him. They didn't love him. And what was so Arana is they pick Robert Griffin to be the future of the franchise, and then they sorta throwaway pick in the fourth round. For cousins, cousins became the quarterback. Griffin was moved out. We all know that how that win. So hope that answers your question. Patrick, I feel your pain former Redskin fan, grew up die hard, and that has since changed. Let's go to Scott. I Andrew. My name is Scott quick question on the NFL scheduling. Do you ever foresee them scheduling games, fifteen to twenty minutes apart, much like March madness or games may start on the east coast like eleven AM. Second game, eleven twenty seven forty cetera. Maybe to increase your ship engagement, etcetera. P. think there could be some profits her teams. Thanks, Andrew, take their things. Got a great question. I think would what we're sort of stuck with at least now, and I don't know if it's going to change is kind of your fathers or even your grandfather's NFL in terms of scheduling in terms of the way the games are broadcast. I think that's got to change. I think it has to change first of all in terms of the time, the broadcast listen, I'm an older guy, and I still have trouble watching these games because of all the stoppages. It shouldn't take three plus hours to have an eleven minutes of action product. I think. Consumers are going to demand that I think that'd be shorter games. I think it's means more split-screen advertising, less savages, less breaks somehow they're able to do with revenues in soccer. I don't know why they can't do it in football, but that's just where we are. You bring up an interesting point about the staggered schedule to me. I think there's some reason which I'm really not sure of why all the games start at the same time, either one o'clock for lock or the night games to me, you would have more fan engagement with staggered times. For instance, we're in when I was in Green Bay. We started our early games at twelve when these coast, of course, that would be one why not start at one in Green Bay, there would be two on the east coast. So what and now you all these fantastic finishes coming the same time between four and four fifteen for twenty one have been tastic finish at four one, five, one, six, three at seven. And you know that to me is seems to be more fan engagement rather than. In less. Of course, the key defending gauge -ment now with legalized sports betting is just that there's gonna be more gambling. Who knows what these in game apps are going allow for. But that is really something to look at when you talk about what's going on. So I agree with you. I think it's a great question. 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Rivera Regret?

The Kevin Sheehan Show

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Rivera Regret?

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Cancer is one of those things like you should go to the dermatologist once a year, if not twice a year just to get a checkup, because that is the most preventable and treatable, as long as you catch it early, and so I hadn't been in over a year, and a part of that was because of the pandemic, so I went yesterday, and they took my temperature when I walked in there, and my temperature was ninety nine and a half. Now, they didn't stop me from coming in, but that is a low grade fever. Is it not? Yes, I believe it I think it is to immediately said to the woman I think that's high, because we have one of those thermal scanners in this office Mesa, occasionally I'll I'll walk by and I walked by it two days ago, and I was like ninety seven point, seven or something like that which you know, there's a new normal on. It's no longer ninety eight point six is the normal actually less than that, but anyway they let me go in, and I got my checkup, and I actually had something cut out of my upper forehead with. I've had things before and I. Don't think it'll be anything else. Knock on wood, but anyway I got home last night. And I was like I wonder if I do have a fever. I feel feverish. and. I took some tylenol and. I was drinking some water and I ate some dinner. There was like some tune in there and. And, so I didn't have a big dinner and I went to bed early. I mean and litter when I say early it was the inning of the nats game. It was four to one. It was like eight o'clock, and that was it next thing I. Know is four a M so I and I felt great when I woke up this morning, but I think I was just in need of some sleep. and and I got it and I feel great today I feel great today, but you know there is I mean. How many times have you felt? I don't feel that well, but you don't give it a second thought, but now you give it a second thought like well do I have shortness of breath fever? Do I have dry cough I I? Actually have had a cough. It's not a dry cough. It's more of an allergy cough. But anyway I'm fine, and I'm feeling great today. Meantime you survived where you live a major fire in a building nearby. Will you share that with us, please? about quarter to five Sunday morning. My wife wakes me up. She says Tom There's someone knocking on our door. And I said. What time is it? She told me I'd say well. That can't be good. Don't answer it. Is that what you said really yeah. Yeah, but they kept knocking. So I went and answered it, and it was our neighbor. In Our CONDO building. There's about twelve condos in our building. Where we are four on three on each floor tree floors. And they said. the building next door is on fire. you might want to get up and get out. In case they start having to water down the building here. and so we we walked around to our balcony and went outside and you. Oh! There's fire trucks everywhere flames shooting out of the building. Right next door to us and I'm sitting there thinking. How did we sleep through this? How can we possibly not know what was going on? It was it was a circuit. Out there, so we got dressed. quickly and we went outside, and you know never did the ashes or anything never did go to our building, but one buildings next door on the other side of that building did sustained some damage. and the whole third floor of the building was burnt nobody was hurt. Everybody got out safely. and I don't know how it started. But It was quite a Sunday morning seen to wake up to. You sent me a picture. I'm looking at right now. That's a real fire. Oh, it was! It was a two alarm fire. There were two fire departments there. it was it was the real deal Absolutely it was pretty scary looking. Guy Who's the guy in the picture that you sent me? What Guy! A guy standing up on the right hand side looking at the fire. I have no idea that's from a newspaper story. That picture I mean that was I. Mean I could send you one that we talk to, but that was the best. That's picture illustrate. Takes a while to determine 'cause. Yeah, but there was no initial feeling as to what the cause was. Down I mean there's neighborhood gossip? Well, you'd have to talk to neighbors in order to get that and I just don't do that. The neighbor actually when you mentioned that someone was knocking on your door at five am in the morning and it was your neighbor. Do you even know your neighbor? let's. Just. Out. Now, you're not a neighbor person. You're you're. No, you're not. You'RE NOT GONNA. They can help somehow exactly exactly unless there's somebody like really interesting, but you don't give it enough time. Even find out if somebody is yeah, Gosh. Oblivious! To there's an aloofness to you. Who've? So four more marlins test positive today, so we're at seventeen. The games been postponed tonight. They postponed last night. They postponed it today. Rob Manfred said in his statement yesterday that and it was not a very alarmed statement on the subject. He said he does not believe this is a disastrous situation. I think that was the quote. Something to that effect. Actually I've got the Mary Matic Night I've got it right here. Yeah, it was he said quote. We built protocols anticipating that we would have positive tests at some point. During the season, the protocols were built to allow us to play through those positives. We believe the protocols are adequate to keep our players safe I. Don't put this in the nightmare. Category closed quote. You. Know? No, the nightmares coming. This is a bad dream. This is a this is July Okay, let me read to you. What the Institute for Health Metrics and evaluation reported recently. Guests nationwide are predicted to remain fairly level through August. And Begin to rise again around the fourth week of August with a more pronounced increase in September. Although some states will see the increase earlier due to increase mobility and relaxation of social distancing. Mandate The second one this is this is July. This was supposed to be the downtime. October! This was supposed to be that so why? Why are? All of the a lot of these projected. projected numbers on this virus. have been off a little bit. So why are you so convinced about? August September and into the fall. Because there has not been any real among experts who are credible. There has not been any difference of opinion that there is a second wave coming. And second wave is going to be coming in the fall and the winter, but the fall when it's going to start, the first way was supposed to die out with the heat initially right right right, and and it has. That's my point. This is this is rely. I mean in September if they get to September. That's when the nightmare scenario good. It's just inevitable I. don't understand how anyone didn't think this was going to happen. When you start traveling around the the country, even if it's a small part of the country come into contact with different people. Have, come into contact with other people or the marlins still in Philadelphia. I don't know I. Don't know if they are or not. I know the Yanks. How many of these seventeen people have been hospitalized in or sick? I, don't I don't think any been hospitalized or any of them say. Symptomatic. I don't know. I don't know if they are I mean. This is sort of an important thing right as we as we go through inevitable inevitable positive tests now this is an outbreak clearly of infection. This is an infection outbreak. I'm reading through the latest story. There's no reporting on how many of these seventeen people are symptomatic. How many of these seventeen people are sick? How many of these seventeen people are seriously sick I? Think that's important information, don't you? it wouldn't change my opinion about what in at being contact with these people. I didn't say one bit say that that's the only I would be your only concern if you're a at this point if you're concerned with your own health. It'll particularly care if they're sick or not. Well. I thought you were speaking about yourself. I thought you speaking about yourself and your age underlying conditions. Any player playing Major League baseball or their family member well, that's precisely why I think the the information about how many of these people are symptomatic? How many of them have actually gotten sick is important. Because look I agree with you. It's the last couple of weeks haven't been promising The information isn't encouraging. It's not improving were in day or on day four or five of this baseball season, and we've had a major outbreak of positive cases, a major outbreak of positive cases on a team, and that is shut down two games already for them, which is already leading to a snowball effect where? Where the Yankees were coming into the marlins locker room, right in Philadelphia and so they had to have their game postponed, and you can see the snowball effect of games getting canceled the integrity of the competitive portion of these games, being compromised ending up with an unfair competitive season. If you even get to a season, but just right now in the moment like I want to know what this means. You know. Does this mean that people are going to positive or does this mean that come in contact with them? The teams that they play the teams that they're scheduled to play, or does this mean that they're going to test positive and get sick? Those are two different things, but I don't understand what what would. What difference would it make to you? If you came in contact with a person who wasn't who tested positive, it would be a fringed on me, but it wouldn't make a difference potentially to a twenty four year old healthy with no underlying sicknesses person. Oh I think it would, there's. There's an expectation that eventually they're gonNA test positive, but they're not going to get sick. I'll. Look it. They test positive. They're going. Oh, they're done. I understand what the protocol is. Now. I'm talking about not their protocol. I'm talking about for most of these players. If they test positive. Amer going home. What Tommy You you've said that from the beginning in this is the thing that you are dead, right on. This is the thing that actually threatens the shutdown of these games in the season's. Maybe even more than the threat of sickness does, and they say sickness, not positive tests, and that is the fear, the fear, the fear of the players, not only themselves testing positive and potentially getting sick, even though the odds seem stacked very much against it, but the threat that it would pose to the people that are in their lives in that they love in their homes around them. This is the real threat I don't know that. The positive tests aren't the real threat I'm just asking a question about, or I'm very curious about W- these seventeen people, especially the players, the younger players. I'm curious as to what happens. Are they all a symptomatic? Are they all you know slightly symptomatic? have any of them really gotten sick? Because in the bubble sports take hockey in the NBA. You know if they aren't going back to their homes, and they're not putting their loved ones at risk in. Nobody's getting sick, even though they're testing positive. Although the hockey thing I think it was like their last group testing for the to bubble, cities was like zero positive tests. Where where the to bubble city, Toronto and Vancouver Right. At the different country. This. Yes, Sir actually thought. You're asking me because you really didn't know where the two cities were but I, I just. Look, I mean the the you're right. About the fear factor fear factor. You were right about the fear factor I'm giving you credit for being right about the fear factor, but I just wonder why. You know if no one gets sick, but there's just a lot of positive tests. You know we have to. We may have to advance to the point where these players unless they have somebody at home. That's at risk. Just understand. Hey, I'm gonNA test positive but I'm not going to get sick. Oh at the can't ask somebody to do that. 'cause you don't know they're not GonNa get you. Well I don't know that yet, and you don't know. But. That's why I'd like to get the data on. You! Don't know what kind of damage this could be causing it within your body. Even if you are a symptomatic, you know what I do, Know Tommy a hell of a lot of people for several months now who don't make anywhere near the money they make have been working six five six seven days a week and coming home to their families and growing the follow basic rules, which are wearing a mask and social distancing, and you know it hasn't I understand the number of deaths I do and I'm not advocating that everybody in every single situation. Just go for it. It and play the odds in the odds are basically. Everybody's favored that they're not gonNA. Get seriously sick or die, but with this particular thing I just I don't personally want to say. It's all over like many people were Baas basically wrote. It's over. Shut it all down. Other people are saying all right. Let's focus on real life matters. Sports are diversion there an extra. When we have a functioning society I just would like to know whether or not these people are actually going to get sick or not 'cause right now. It doesn't appear as if they are. Well to me that that doesn't make any difference. and I think he's got people I think this was an arrogant and ignorant exercise. And it's GONNA prove to be the NBA. Make the NHL May really get away with it because they went to another country and they may be able to pull this off. Tory. I? Know but part of the problem. Is that you know? Baseball came up with the hundred and thirteen page. You know manual on how to deal with this and they operate in a country where to manual from. The White House was a mad magazine. Guy Guy Running. It says why me worry. That's part of the problem. What? What was the phone call that took place in April between the president and the. Commissioners would have been. Great to listen you hear it now. What what that did he did. He go over his competence tech score with them. Guarding, didn't he do a great job of remembering all those things thirty minutes later. He did better than me how that? I doubt it. I doubt he would have done better than you. Fun I mean that's also part of what they're trying to operate the best they can. When they're living in a society where you know, there are so many people just. Convinced that this is some kind of government conspiracy to kill them. God it is. It is a you know. It's a very unique situation. When you have three hundred and thirty five million people and fifty states, a lot of these states are like different countries Yeah, We have a lot of we have a lot of cultural and personality differences in this country. Yes, and and I mean when it comes to help wanted the basic thing the most basic thing. What is your health? I mean money doesn't matter really if you're if you're like you know. Jackson cooked already had enough one guy, he could live forever and he did. So I I. Exercise. I mean he that would to say. He was convinced. That he he was rich to die. Was He. I don't remember that yes. Yes. So and I'm sure there's other people like that as well, but I just think this is you know like? I said the NBA may have a better show. Not traveling gives those sports a better chance at it, but again I think the fear factor ones and the fatigue factor of living in this bubble for a couple of months for free young people young NBA players who may have a difficult time with that kind of discipline? I think it's going to do in the NBA as well. Football Football, the NFL! You know they were painting I. Somebody posted at at at Fedex field, or or they were painting black lives, matter and in the end zone. somebody said I said in four weeks dopey painting Seine doctors. Are they really painting black lives, matter in the end zones of on NFL fields. Let me, see I. I could find that by. that. Remain late that. So I. So predict Gimme your prediction right now on all of these sports. I think baseball. We done before the beginning of September. I think football will be done by the By the end of October. I'M NOT GONNA go in on the NBA your DNA chill. I suspect I still think the NBA. We'll collapse but they have all they've got to do is get through their playoff. You know it's sort of like the NHL. Those two don't have to go through with season. They have to go through the playoffs. Nobody tenure two plus months. We know how long off steak. You're right. I. I don't think football is going to finish the season. I don't think baseball certainly gonNA finish the season. I have no idea what's going to happen. I don't know how anybody does every week. Although the last couple of weeks have been pretty consistent with being more, I guess. Pessimistic than optimistic, and you're seeing today. Some football players opt out these the the NFL. And I mentioned this yesterday, Tommy But I'll mention it with you know. The NFL's players and owners had a much more collaborative. Effort in getting things agreed to than baseball and its players and we saw everything agreed to in one of the things that essentially the NFL allows is for a player to opt out. They'll get if they don't have any legitimate health risks, they'll get one hundred and fifty thousand dollar stipend, which will be taken out of a future salary. If you have an underlying health risk, you're going to get a three hundred thousand dollars stipend, and it won't be taken out of future salary. We're seeing some players opt out today. It's still just a few as training camps. Get underway. If you WANNA call them training camps I, just I have no idea what this is going to look like a month from now. I still believe that meds. The therapeutic answer would change everything if we came up with you, know desert, Aveer, or some combination of whatever that you know, everybody was sold. Kept you from getting seriously ill, but we're not. We're not there yet or not there yet and I take. Let me make this clear. Jason Re reported that Ethernet NFL's kick off week. That league is going to have social justice messages painting in the end zone. Off Not necessarily black lives matter got it. you know messages like it takes all of us and racism and things like. that. That's the report so I do think though that this marlins thing happening like I'm just I'm thinking through this right now with you. Because I didn't spend a Lotta time. spent some time on this this morning. But I do think that how these people progress. Like weather, not you know they get sick whether or not they're symptomatic. How quickly they're back into the fold. WILL BE At the very least interesting learning experience and it may be. I! Don't WanNa say predictive, but it will be one of those things that could give people a different outlook in a few days. If, these people get too quick negative tests. They were a symptomatic. Nobody got sick. Everybody's back on the field. They're doing the right thing. Don't get me wrong by postponing these games. But I'd like to see how the Marlins case plays out. This is an outbreak. This is one of those things he didn't necessarily, even though Manford said, we had protocols in place with expanded rosters. Etc Your Plan for a major outbreak where you lose half, your team is not. You. Know isn't like they're not designed to handle that right now. Clearly, they're not because they cancelled to back to back games. They postpone them. They didn't set in send in the rest of the roster. That was that was negative. You know I think you've gotta see. The marlins taken out of commission for fourteen days. Well this speaks to something else that I've talked about yesterday, and you just have to be prepared for this as a sports fan. If if you believe that the seasons have a chance of starting and finishing, you are going to have competitive unfairness to all of these cities now the bubble cities for hockey basketball seemed to be a little bit different, and we'll see because who knows I mean you could still have a major outbreak, but you're going to have. A mate I mean right now. It's very possible that the Marlins won't be able to make these games up against the orioles in the orioles in the marlins left to less games played than everybody else. And and in the NFL. It's it's very possible. If somehow you got through a sixteen game regular season that some teams had a major outbreak and had to forfeit two games and played to less games in everybody else. That's possible. But. You're just going to have to deal with it because it's an oddball year and there's GonNa be there's GonNa. Be Some unfairness to it. competitively. Yes I would agree with that. I have no idea how to. Future on this one I have no idea the only thing that seems like it's certainly becoming a mcgibbon. Is that high school sports are pretty much done in the fall. the W C A in one of the best high school, basketball and football conferences in the country. They've called off football until at least January one. Montgomery County last week. canceled football and basketball season cancelled basketball season in July, which seemed to be a bit premature from my standpoint, but whatever well you see you see what the smart people did at Google. What did they do? Google announced that they're keeping their employees hold. Through the end of next summer. that. That's a little bit different. You know when you're at home by saying working, you know. It's an indication of what smart peop- again. You know. They have that option. They can continue to work from home. Their business isn't being shut down I. Know that, but but but they're saying to them. You know you can stay home for this long. I mean they're. They're telling them that because they don't think it'll be safe to come back to work. Until the summer of twenty twenty one look timing in. In some cases, some of these businesses are realizing that they don't need offices and real estate in and A and a huge expense line to be able to operate their businesses. This is a trend in terms of teleworking. That was already beginning to happen. That's going to be accelerated because it's going to be cost beneficial to accelerate it and I'm not saying. One that one that the trump administration was pushing against. I might point out. TELEWORKING! Yes. You know because the whole idea of all these employees must be getting away with something when when you're working at home well. I I. Don't necessarily agree with that, but I do think that it is a different output from home than it would be in an office I. Think Anybody who's ever worked in an office versus working from home realizes that. Yeah it depends on what your job of course of course. Yeah I. Mean if you're if you're a podcast, who radio talk show host or a communist? You really don't need an office for that. And in fact, you can be much more productive without one. But anyway. So yeah, it's It's interesting by the way real quickly on the nets. One in three start the I you know you've got. You've got some issues there. With first of all Anthony Ran. Don't hasn't played yet in in Los Angeles. He has not I don't think he last night he had he didn't play in the first three games because he was on the injured list. I'm I'm watching every night I didn't see last night. The box score to the angels play last night. Did he play last night, teach. No still hasn't played yet. but Rough Start for the nets so far long way to go another fifty six games maybe. or The everything you'll be done before then. Yeah Yeah I do, but even if they managed to get to the finish line, everybody makes the playoffs now in Baseball Sixteen Teams Indiana and approve it ten to sixteen. Could be exciting. It could. Can we talk about one thing here like what if? And, it's very possible what if baseball ends at the end of next month and football doesn't make it past October, or or before then in, and you just don't have sports in twenty twenty. But what? What is the result of that? What are the ramifications I? Think haven't haven't well. I meet financially. You could speak to that more than I. Can I mean for Baseball? It'd be the worst case scenario because for all intents and purposes. You would have played. you would have gone a year and a half. ACCEPTED HIS LIP that turns out to be an embarrassing situation for you a year and a half without your game. Football, if it happens that way to, you would have played God, a long time without football as well I. Don't think it'll have a big impact financial I think people are always going to be starved for football. I mean I think socially as as a society. I think a lot of people have learned to live without it already. They like it. But it's it's not parted or oxygen. They don't need a debris. Yeah, I mean the economy needs it. More than maybe people do. From from a mental standpoint, although I, do think mentioned this many times that the routine in the habit and the the rhythm of football season. That's when it will become very apparent that our world has changed in a significant way for a lot of people, and it crosses over right I. mean it crosses over into every single demographic. The NFL does, and football does college football does, and it's popular in every. Every portion of this country, and to not have it as part of your fall into winter routine. Will you know lend a level of seriousness to this situation? That may be some didn't really feel Until then I'm not saying that that's not that doesn't go for everybody clearly, but it will have economic impact. This isn't going to be one of those nineteen, forty, four and forty five. There wasn't sports. Sports played because of the war So be it I mean sports didn't have this same economic impact on the country back then that it does now so there's the I mean there are so many businesses that will be negatively impacted by sports, not being played I mean so many businesses that rely solely on these sports being played in small businesses. Many small businesses as we've seen you know whether. Whether. It's in the hospitality industry a lot lot of service businesses. You know it's they've been crushed over the last five to six months in no sports will continue that trend, and there will be new businesses because of the new world we're living in that will thrive and grow, but those associated reliant on sports in there are many of them It'll be devastating. It'll be very devastating to our business. Yet. Yes. It will go that long without sports. I think I think people. I think people in our business are looking to the football season as a life preserver, and if that life preserver punt gets a hole punch didn't. It's gotta be pre. I agree. Quick word about Roman. If you were to guess on how many days people in the US after way to see a doctor? What would you say a week? Maybe actually on average people have to wait nearly a month to see a doctor and major US cities. If you're dealing with a condition like erectile dysfunction, you'd treatment ASEP. 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I will get to Alex Smith and what Ron Rivera said just a little while ago about Alex Smith here in a moment I also WanNa. Get to something that Ron Rivera told Ben Standing of the athletic in an interview that he had with him yesterday, but you wanted to ask me a question that had nothing to do with either one of those two things. What was it right and it's pop into my head from. Listening to the read that that you just for the podcast. Yes yes, his popped into my head. Just popped right into your head. Yes, it did so to speak. Did your hung up on that news? That? We've ridiculous I'm not interested. When you go to the doctor to see a doctor. When I go to the doctor do I see Dr did yesterday went to the dermatologist I saw Dr Jaffe over there in Bethesda. He's a big fan of the podcast. saw them probably because that's the only reason he probably sees you. Otherwise. EP seeing what is being called a physician assisted now. This is where we see most of the time when you go for a doctor's visit, you don't really see the doctor. You saying because of the pandemic. No No, no, no, this is, it says it's a change in the medical industry. Where you have people now who are designated at almost the doctor, but not quite. That hasn't happened just hasn't happened with me. You, share you. Pay attention from now on when you go to a doctor and it just see who is seeing you. You know if it's a real doctor or physician, because I don't always tell you. You know they don't always you, but this is. This is a phenomenon and it's it's part of. It is I know I guess the whole down 'cause. Cheap, out over you WANNA call. But this is, this is a change. From years ago, there were nurses and there were doctors before now. There's nurses physician's assistant. And then docked. Do you go listening to you? Don't go to medical school. I, mean they. They have training. And they make a pretty good book it's it's a pretty lucrative job. But they're not doctors. act like doctors, said they. We'll do you have a problem with it? Well I have questions about it i. just wonder how safe it is. I've never had an issue with it per. Se, but the fact is if you took your car to to get fixed by mechanic and the guy fixing it is almost a mechanic. That would probably a body you a little bit. It would buy it. Bother me much more if they were working on my body instead of my vehicle but I. But I am curious. I'm curious if the person that stuck the needle into your I a couple of weeks ago as an assistant or the actual ophthalmologist. That was the doctor. That was that was the CEO. He's a pretty hands on guy. That would SAM but. But but for the most part a lot times I see physicians assistants now. Dongo mostly to in network doctors based on your insurance policy like all in network, so you don't even really know who you're going to. You don't have a consistent person you go to or not. No I have I've consistent doctors. I have a pretty I've very good medical coverage besides Medicare which I have now. Kevin mytalk Medicare recipient. Yes, I do. I am but I. You know it's funny. Because I think I was having this. Oh I'll tell you why. I was having this conversation the other day with my father-in-law. I went to pick up a prescription for my mother. Who broke her hip recently and I needed a prescription I. Think I told you about that? And do you know how much the prescription was when I got to the pharmacy? Sixty nine cents. A new. It's something like that I've never seen I've seen the you know. The Co pays of three dollars or five dollars or ten dollars. I've never seen sixty nine cents so anyway I dropped it off in having a conversation with my father-in-law that night and I told him, and he's like. Oh, I've never heard of sixty nine cents heard of a couple of bucks here and there, and then he started to tell me about you know Medicare benefits, and he said they're they're unbelievable. He said your mother may were I mean we're getting incredible benefits from Medicare. Pay hardly anything for prescription drugs. Yeah. It's a pretty good. Now, it doesn't cover everything as you know. From all the commercials you see on TV about Medicare supplement plan. You have to have a backup net. To basically covered the stuff that Medicare doesn't cover, and since lives was a federal employee, we still have that even though she's retired, so we have very good medical insurance in addition some better care, so I see regular doctors. I don't just have to go to whoever my shirt company doing this. Why are we talking I because I think that the whole physician assisted movement is a bit troubling, and I think it needs to be examined me. You're not seeing Dr Sounds like your column. Free Strasburg to to get after. I. Honestly I can't I'm sure I have seen a physician's assistant at some point I just can't remember. sing one. But I'm sure I have When I went into, see doctor. When I went to see the dermatology, she there was an assistant now. I have no idea if she's a dermatologist or physician's assistant, she was a part of the examination, and by the way she had the same bur-. She had the same birthdays me but anyway can we. Can we talk about things that our audience here more likely than not is more interested in physician's assistant discussion. Out Orgy out audience. Note that. That's way too presumptuous. They don't mind some of this I. Get to Alex Smith is the starting quarterback for to watch. So this morning on the the press conference that a Ron Rivera or the zoom conference call that Ron Rivera health with local reporters. He did say that Alex Smith did not pass the football physical. They put him on the physically unable to perform list. The PUP list and he said that they WANNA see more football movement football types of movement before they can clear him. said the same thing about Reuben Foster as well but I. Did you know I? It was sort of unclear yesterday as to whether or Or, not he had cleared that he had passed it, or didn't. They just put on the PUP list? It's funny Tommy because the insurance policy that the Redskins took out which isn't that unusual anymore on a high priced big contract quarterback in particular, they took out a policy that will has a benefit of I think between ten and twelve million dollars. If there's a catastrophic career ending injury, but the thing that triggers it is not passing a physical before the physical that he had to take yesterday, and he didn't pass it. Now they didn't say, retire or cut him. They put him on the pup list to give them more time. but I don't know I. Don't I. Don't think it that. Alex Smith is going to take a snap again. I guess he did say this morning about Alex Smith that if he does pass a physical down the road, then it quote he becomes part of the equation closed quote. He said that on the on the conference. Call our zoom call this morning. I. Just don't see it. I don't think Alex Smith ever takes a snap on an NFL field unless it's a ceremonial one which I don't need to see. Okay? I I don't think he's going to be able to play. And I, don't I mean my own personal view is is if you care about? Alex Smith you know you. You know hopefully he just you know. Take those home and spend time with his family and doesn't put himself at risk again on a football field after what we saw, but. My point which I made on twitter, the other night and people. You know Washing football teams fans. Even have a hard time to come to grips with it is if he if he sounds through all the hoops? Passes all the gates? And is on that football field practicing alongside Swain Haskins and Allen. Out Smith? Is your starting quarterback come on? Of course he is come on. You can't no football and not realize that. I know football. And what planet the planet. Who's good buddy with the owner? I'm saying that it could be i. don't want this. I don't want to manifest itself in this way, but it could be look Alex is getting healthier. This is so good for him. He's a great presence in the locker room and he can go through. And he'll be great for dwayne but I. Don't think and I could see the owner making the case for that and ron going in on it because look having Alex Smith around is not a bad thing in terms of you know his experiences mentorship. He's not starting a game if he's their. Yeah eating it. You're not getting it. You really think. That's Wayne. Haskins can't beat out Alex Smith in competition if there if everything's equal. Yes. Oh come on. Based on what? Well what what I explained to me, explain to me all things being equal. Alex Smith is healthy. One hundred percent healthy kids play. Duane how? You can play. Hasn't. How could he possibly lose a job Wayne Haskins? That's absurd. I? I love when you get to. Put our notes. It's not absurd Alex. Smith is going to be thirty seven years old. He can't be. Healthy. No let me ask you questions. One more time answered honestly everything equal weight asking speech out Alex Smith. That's ridiculous why I mean because you're. You're basing it on a pike three. What is asking you to indicate that? He's beat out a thirteen year NFL, veteran. Alex Smith Show. You and twenty eighteen. That convinces you. He could beat out anybody. Playing in a bad offense. Often For coach, who he, he's still went six and three. Still went six three. He wasn't very good. He wasn't, but you know what is Wayne asking, do you? What what planet are you on? That this guy, what if John What have we done? Well tell you what he did. In his in his eight starts, it was eight right. It ended up being eight last year. Thank God. We saw them by the way he proved to me several things he proved to me number one. He's competitive as hell He's much more mobile than I ever thought he was He has great timing and can throw the ball with anticipation, which is innate. It's harder to teach. He is very good feel in the pocket. He plays with the level of urgency. He played played well with the game on the line, and in his final game and a half he threw for three hundred ninety four yards, four touchdowns, no picks with a seventy five percent completion percentage and got sacked the fewest number of times in all of his starts, so the era was clearly pointing. Pointing upwards towards the end there and by the way if and I'm not buying into all this stuff I. WanNa see it on the field, but he appears to be based on all of the pictures. He tweets out of himself and videos. He tweets out of himself to be in phenomenal condition, and the future of this organization is Dwayne Haskins? Junior and Dwayne Haskins in the end this football team this year. The Washington. Football team isn't going to the Super Bowl and it's a critical year for them to determine whether or not he's the guy or not. He winds. Bunny. The beats out everybody faces, and we never see Alex Smith on the field, taking a snap for the Redskins and Dan Snyder forces some sort of ceremonial kneel down play at the end of a game. He wins the job based on the future. No, he went. No. What did you miss the first few minutes of what I say no I. I caught the last week. Well, we'll listen to the first part because the first part is the. Kevin. I've listened to the first part, but you just go just in the last part as if was the only thing I said. I see it aired on the Haskins Network all the. Who's got the HASKINS network. Oh, you know the Haskins, network I don't actually. Okay. Who are you referring to NBC sports? Washington again. I, believe I am okay. I. You know this going back to last year. I liked him so much more than I thought I was going to like him as a player as a competitor as a guide that appears to be very coach. I, don't I absolutely believe he could be a thirty six year old veteran quarterback out given everything and all of the context around it. Yes, I do that. How can you quainton? Know? How do you know what makes you think Alex? Smith can beat out Twain Haskins at thirty six years old based on what? Because Alec. Man knows how to play in the NFL. Find receivers. Really. Yeah at thirty six. You think he's GonNa be finding all those receivers that he found when he was thirty three thirty to thirty one. Did He, not I. You just admitted. He wasn't very good when he was healthy. I think he's gotTa find more than a kid who barely got his feet wet. Scott less talent around him. Any didn't twenty eighteen this coming season. and. That's why the kid with no experience is not gonNA wind up winning job if everything is equal, that's why the kid without all the experience, but was some mobility. Fight in health is going to win it out because look at what he did those final. Couple of games he actually carried that team for the last game and a half. Are. That's that's that's. That's the head of a pin. Yet it's not a lot of data. No it's not, but it's not stopping you from from not seeing the big old such a ridiculous, anyway that you're painting because he's not going to be fully healthy. And, all things are not going to be equal from a health standpoint. So except difference then that's different. I know it's different. It's also reality more than the reality you're trying to paint. You can tell everybody how dumb they are for thinking twain. Atkins would beat out. Alex Smith if the thirty six year-old came back and had a healthy leg what we saw in that project eleven where he had no leg left I mean that flesh eating virus. Who's going through that leg? like a warm knife through butter. It was terrible by s grotesque Joe that I know all that my point is. That if he can play. He's the starting quarterback next year. Remember where you heard okay and just remember where you heard this. He's not going to be able to play. An great relief. Okay good so this was a waste of a conversation because we both think he's never going to be in possession to play anymore. Wasn't a waste of conversation because he's been cleared, he's passed through one set hurdle he did. He did not pass the team physical yesterday. No, he did not. Yeah. That's the that's the physical that matters. Right. Here's the other thing real quickly on Alex Smith. This is not the organization to put him back out on a football field, Tommy the organization of bad medical, bad training, bad thing when it comes to health in recent years. Right or they're gonNA. Can you imagine that if he beat all odds? In Past, a team physical and was out there. Looking like you know Kansas City chiefs 2017, Alex Smith, and they were in maclaurin was a star any new the offense better than anybody else in Rivera, said Oh, my God, Haskins. He's a disaster. Kyle. Allen's no good. This is our best chance to win. Even if that happened, can you imagine just a cringe-worthy to that first time? He drops back in his pressured pour. It would be horrible, and nobody needs to see that in this organization led. If that's going to happen, it should happen somewhere else. Think about it. Think about how? I mean, could they? Could they overcome that if they were the ones to put him on the field and he were to get his leg crushed again and this time have it amputated? Or worse. How do they? How do they survive that? While that was, that was the Washington redskins. Watching football. Yeah the new heiress. Ron Rivera era. Or, Baby I am I, wouldn't call myself part of the Haskins network. And I don't even know if I believe that that's true. About NBC sports Washington, but anyway I am very optimistic about Dwayne Haskins I am I was last year. There's a lot about the way he played last year. That I was like. Wow, that was impressive. There's a lot here that I think has a chance to flower into something really really good, and the only right now you see, here's the thing about Ron Rivera. There's no risk for Rivera starting. Haskins this year. To See what you've gotten Haskins. He's not going to be blamed for Haskins of Haskins doesn't work out. And he's got to get to that answer on Haskins sooner. Rather than later in this team isn't going to contend for anything in this upcoming season. If there is one although who knows maybe they'll get to play every single team that has twelve guys on covid nineteen. Sit Down each week but I. I just don't see any chance that anybody other than Twain Haskins is if he's healthy starts games for the redskins this year for the Washington football team this year. Okay? Let's say I. Mean You know I mean you just? You don't take into account different scenarios. That could take place if Alex. Smith is healthy. And it's good and like I anticipate is clearly better. Than Zwane Haskins. In the limited amount of training camp. That, you're going to have available, which will also hold Haskins back? How are you going to say to those players who play on that team? We're going with the guy who did win. You just you just painted a completely different picture than the one you presented to me before because you said he clearly beats him out. You didn't say that before all things being equal. Of course going to be out well, that's your. That's your opinion. That's your opinion. you know I was not very impressed with Alex Smith's two, thousand, eighteen, nine and a half games played now. I always liked Alex Smith and I didn't hate the trade I hated the contract extension, but I didn't hate the trade and I. Always Thought that Alex Smith. was you know a serviceable mid range starter in the? NFL knew that he had to have A. A running game knew that he had to have weapons around him. He was not a carry the team on his back kind of guy and wasn't that in Kansas City but I just was I. I saw guy that just wasn't very good or dynamic in two thousand eighteen. That could have been a lot of J.. GRUDEN's fault on I'll concede that and he's worked with North before. Be Scott Turner, but they again. What are we talking about here? He's not going to play football. And and he shouldn't play football. I WANNA get to this. This is the thing that I really wanted to get to and I'm GonNa read through this I'm assuming that you haven't read Ben Standings interview with Ron Rivera from yesterday. Right I'm I'm assuming that is true. Why we! I. Because I don't even know if you're a subscriber to the athletic. I am you are so? Did you react? Did you read Ben's interview with with run? I don't understand why you would. You assume that you don't what happens when you assume don't do in, but you know more times than not when I assume I. Don't make an ass out of either one of us and I'm actually right especially when it requires a subscription fee for you. So you are a subscriber to the athletic. That's A. that's a surprise. Okay, so acid. Why wouldn't they that's true? It is tax deductible for your line of. I want to read this question and the answer because there was a lot here. that. Really, made me feel even better about Ron Rivera and I've already felt pretty good about him. Already and I know that this is something that you're GonNa push back on to a certain degree, but let me read it quickly as quickly as I can. Basically the question and I'll shorten. The question was a question that basically asked Ron Rivera. Dea. have any regrets about taking this job which I think. We've all discussed in recent weeks. Oh, my God can imagine like if he had a legitimate shot at the giant job, he and his wife saying Good God. How did we take this one will here was his answer, he said. because. This is where I WANNA be. I said that my first press conference I'll be honest with you. Maybe it's my own ego, but I really felt that this that this is an organization that needed somebody to come in in lead, and I felt like I could do that I could come in and lead this organization, and that's why I'm here because I really do believe that the second part of his answer, I like the young players one of the things that really caught my attention. You guys heard me say this to. To when you look at the depth, Chart Board look at the guys when you go down that death depth chart that especially with the young defensive line I like the players I'm Gonna I'm GonNA shortness up because it was a nine minute answer that he gave to Ben. Ben Estimated it to be nine minutes, so he talks about the roster, and he said it reminds me very much of when I first got to Carolina there. It's young, but there's some veterans and I thought. This was where I wanted to be. Then he said in referred to the teams history. He said what happened this year. I've looked at it as it's just a part of what I'm doing and one thing I always try to be true to is what I believe, believe me, I've made mistakes I've learned from those mistakes is a person as a coach as a husband as a father, and when I make mistakes I tried to correct them I try not to repeat them. There's a challenge here and I really think that there's an opportunity to have success here. That's why I'm here and also one thing that excites me. ME. This isn't original franchise. It started in nineteen thirty two, and then he goes through a list of player Sunny Johnson, billy kilmer and Chris. Hamburger was one of his favorites. He said Charlie Charlie Taylor's Dad was in the military with his dad, so he goes I understand the legacy. And I played at old RFK stadium and felt the energy. So that's one of the things that draws me to this. Because I would love to see this. Happen here I just think that there's so much possibility and promise then this next section. Heat again in answering the question. Do you have any regrets about taking this job? This is a this is a part Tommy. That's really interesting. He said Ben. It's guys like you and other local reporters that could help us right. All the bad articles now get all the passed out of the way, but as we start going forward right about where we are and where we're going help push us forward. That's my message. I'm trying to tell everybody I get it. There's some things that were totally eft up. St He says okay. Let's stop telling everybody that everything's eft up and start saying to everybody. Hey, look look at what they're trying to do. Look at how they're trying to fix it first and foremost Mr. Snider Mr Snider new had a problem, and he made a decision in October, which was firing Jay And then started researching what he had to do, and then I'll paraphrase the rest of it. He gets into the whole coach centric thing that Dan had research and he came to the conclusion that he wanted to have coach centric system. and. He said like I said starting in October, Dan made that initial initial move and then researched it I talked to him and I said all right. We're going to do this. We're going to work here and and everything about the way he pitched it to me. Basically made sense, and here are the last two sections of it. I got a letter from somebody. That doesn't know me that said you took this for the money, and I would say bullshit to that. You don't know me. How can you write that and say that I get it. People have an opinion, but don't come at me if you don't know me because I really wanted the money. You don't think I would have pitted the giants Cleveland. Cleveland Washington in Dallas all against each other. No I was enthusiastic about this job from the beginning and this is where I am. This is where I think everybody needs to understand. I didn't come here for the money. I made a lot of money in Carolina could've sat out the year. I could have collected a very good paycheck played a lot of golf and got my. My handicap down, I just look at it this way and think to myself. This is an opportunity and that not too many things are going to dampened my spirit about this. I know it's going to be hard. Believe me, it's not all roses. It hasn't been all roses. There's been a lot of thorns, but that's a part of it to get to the roses. You've got gotTA. GotTa go up on the stem. You've got gotTa get past the thorns. So that's what I'm going to do. The biggest thing I tell everybody is to understand. It's about culture, trying to build and develop a sustainable winning culture I will do the best I can, and hopefully in three four or five years, because that's how long the military says, it takes to change a culture. If I have time to do it I. Believe believe me. I'M GONNA. Do everything I can to do it I just like where I am. Now there were parts I. Shortened there. But going back to the beginning, he says I know it's my own ego, but I felt this was an organization that needed somebody to come in and lead it and I felt like I could do that that. I could come in and lead this organization. You know he's talked about Culture Tommy since the very beginning. I believe his answer that he doesn't have regrets because I think even though it's gotten worse since he got here and many of it much of it was unpredictable like the pandemic I think he looked at this with his understanding of what it's been that it needed a big culture change. What was historically and he looked at it like you know, here's the Charlie Brown tree. I can give it some love in caring. And I can be the person that turns this thing around. I think part of that is in play here. I believed him. What did you make of his answer? There's more to it I want to get to, but I want you to give your thoughts on what he said to Ben. Okay stick with me here for a minute, okay? he doesn't have any regrets. Isn't that a bit alarming to you? About his intelligence level. No! That's funny. SMART GUY! Would have would go home every night to his wife and say what the F. that we get ourselves into. A smart guy would say that. Let me. Interrupt for one second. Let me let me interrupt for one SEC. Let me interrupt for one sec I think if he were presented with this opportunity today versus the giants after the sexual harassment stuff after the name change after all of that. I don't know that he would take this Gig but I think he took the Gig any sticking with the gig because he. He saw the opportunity to take something that used to be great that he remembers because he's a League lifer, and he understands how fucked up. It is and how fucked up. It's been, and then he as a guy that has a ton of respect and a lot of discipline and understands how to fix things. He looked at this as I can fix the redskins. or The Washington football team. Okay First of all I'm sure. When he looked at things and so, how fucked up they were. They weren't as fucked up then has. Now, Okay and he hasn't even coach a play yet for this team. And Intelligent Person Would have to have regrets so I think and I think he's a smart guy. So I think he's just telling a party line there and I. Don't believe a word about that I. Think if he could turn back the hands time, he wouldn't be the coach of the Washington redskins. The Washington football team. The Washington football team. Excuse me James. Stick with me at all you got. That's that's all I need. I mean how smart I mean. If he's a smart guy, he's lying. But nobody with any intelligence. It's GonNa. Sit there and say yeah I'm glad I'm here. This is great. Just what following on piled more on beat I love it. You know it's interesting in you'RE GONNA? You'RE GONNA push back I think on this. Most people spend a lot of time looking back and regretting and of God. Why did I? Make that decision, but I think there are certain people and I think competitive professional athletes would fit into this group that don't look back a lot and just look forward, and he made the decision, and he made the decision for the reasons that I described I. think he saw this as an opportunity and let me also say that I don't want to minimize what Mike Silver. Silver remember, wrote in the in the day that he spent with him the weekend before he took the skins job that he liked this roster, he didn't write it. He told me this on the air silver did that. He really liked the roster and saw an opportunity with good coaching on defense in particular to turn it around, especially given that they had the number two pick in the draft. I think also the conversations with Joe Gibbs probably very helpful and influential. But I don't I? I believe him because I think that he is cut from. That mold of what's done is done now. It's about solutions now it's about you know moving forward and getting through this in and improving why I was the guy to be the guy here to finally be the person that fixes all this mess. I also think it's not. That's not regret, but that's not the issue. Regret is again turning back the clock I. Don't think people like him. Turn back the clock. But if you put you and I do, I don't think he does. I look I, don't! I do not live my life with regret. But, but ignoring history is foolish and stupid when it comes to decision they. And I I'm sorry, but any television person. If you could go back in time seeing what you've seen, you're not going to work. But but I think you could make the case that 'cause you think he is intelligent, and therefore you think he's being disingenuous here and that he does have regrets, but if he were really that intelligent based on the way you feel, he would have never taken the job in the first place. Well Look I. Mean there have been other guys who have taken because a lot of this is where it comes into play this athletic mindset that you're talking about this competitive mindset. There are guys out there who think well if I get my hands on it. I can change thing. There are guys who are convinced of that. No matter how bad is situation is? Because they're they're eagle demands. They think well once. I put my stamp on that organization I can change it. You know ignoring the are of self-destruction that is in engulfed is franchise for more than twenty years now. Without! No it's not, it's that that's not very smart. That's that's that's competitive ego. That is competitive ego. Get in the way. A lot of athletes think like that or else or else they couldn't compete. It's as an athlete. You couldn't put failure behind you or explain failure. Your competitive juices with trained from you. Of course you. You can't live In your failures if you're competitive athletes in this case, you have to be able to explain them or forget about them or or or rationalize them. but this is not. That's not the same thing as intelligence. So. All. Right I mean. The. The bottom line is in reading through that answer and talk to Ben this morning. I had him on the show and he said he was really passionate. Zoom interview that he did with him. The that. I think they got the right guy. I don't know that a work I would still bet against it, but that's because the number one risk factors, the owner, and that's GonNa. Be The risk factor for this organization forever as long as Dan Snyder owns the team. but I do believe that he thinks he's the right guy for this situation and that you know what we do, know about him. We do know this. We know. He's very well respected among coaches and players in this league. mean the over the top. Compliments that he got from players who aren't even going to play for them. You know here and his former players in other coaches around the league, my general feeling about him before they even hired him, which is I always felt he was a very good coach. Maybe a bit underrated I loved the ways teams I thought overachieved you over delivered. You know on what they were He and I also like that he doesn't seem to be coming in here. Naively his eyes wide open. And talked about a culture change long before the name and the Post story came out, and long before covid nineteen started, this was something where he walked into understanding. How F- DUMP IT IS! So he understood. How many times have we heard him? Talk about that military line the three four five years, which by the way brings me to this, and that is the last few lines of this answer to Ben Stanbic what he says. again the biggest thing I tell everybody's understand about the culture, trying to build and develop a sustainable winning culture will do the best. I can in hopefully in three four or five years, because that's how long the military says it takes takes to change a culture, and then this line Tommy so if I have the time to do it, believe me I am doing everything I can to do it. I, just like wire where I am I. think that's another self aware. Of I'm telling the owner here. It's three four or five years in that. There's a major culture change. Give me the time to do it. I don't know if he will or not. I I actually believe a lot of what you've said about. He better do something quickly. Like he better show improvement quickly because the lack of self awareness the Hubris the arrogance. All of that will then you know you know basically rear its ugly head again if he doesn't get results but I. I. The success. I'm like them too I. Think the whole military culture things a bit overblown. Maybe maybe I hear on that I. Hear you on that. I think what he's what he's saying, is it's GonNa take a long time? This culture is really aft- up. Yeah and I think I think like you brought up which I brought up a long time ago. When he I got hired, he needs to have. It's like a Joe. Torre George Steinbrenner situation and Tori got the upper hand on Steinbrenner early because he won right away and became an icon and the guy responsible for winning right away and became more powerful than owner. In that situation that's that'll go a long way through help and Ron Rivera. If somehow he can win early. and he may be thinking that when he's looking at his three quarterbacks working out. Training Camp and saying wow I thought it hands to win a lot more games with with with Alex. Smith then I deal with with the kid who's barely played in the NFL there would be no bigger indictment on Dwayne Haskins than Alex Smith on one leg winning the job. one last thought on this because he talks about culture and building and developing a sustainable winning culture I've mentioned this many times before in the past, but it makes me. Happy encouraged that I hear it from him as well. One winning season does not make a good franchise. 'cause the League is designed for every bad team in bad franchise and bat owner to have an occasional good season, the best franchises develop and sustain a winning culture over a long period of time, and that's always the goal, but it's never been attainable in the Dan Snyder era, and it may not this time I would bet did. It isn't even though I really like Ron Rivera and I'm really hopeful the other the last thought on this is you know we still don't know anything about when it comes to Rivera in. Washington, is anything about his contract? I haven't seen anything reported on his contract, have you? Not, really, no! Isn't that strange? Yet is it is strange. It's very unusual. I mean. I don't even think we I think. We know that it's a five year deal that he got. Anything about the money you know we've always suggested that. If you're going to take a job in Washington, you have to get some level of of contractual authority to run the football operation. You know to coach your team without interference, but we don't know anything about the money I mean I you know if we found out that it was a Jon Gruden kind of contract. We might feel differently about whether or not. It's for the money or not. But anyway, and we might now one last thing for me about you know coach Rivera and so far his reign as redskins coach. One of the first job. One of the first things he did. Was Hire Jack del Rio as defensive coordinator. How's that? Turn out so far? Well Lunatic defensive coordinator, the crazy man on social media that he's I didn't see this until you told me about it before the show I didn't see it this morning. Go ahead and tell everybody what you're referring to I, mean we know? Weeks ago. He's made his politics very clear on twitter. He's You know, and by the way the first. Amendment allowing you that even though it doesn't seem like it in days like We've had here over the last couple of months. But or people seem to be trying to quell first amendment free speech, but go ahead and tell everybody what he tweeted out last night or yesterday or whatever? Well, you had this Dr. that was posted on social media, some kind of Voodoo doctor. Who basically about the benefits of what's the drugs? Hydroxy chloroquine I trust the chlorine and I use it on hundreds of patience. You know as a cure for treatment and effective treatment for covert, and that's very disputed at this point so much disputed that twitter took the video down. Took it off off off of social media. And Jack. Del Rio tweeted if this video was taken down then shame on those seeking to make large profit rather than treat Americans. The doctor clearly explains the benefits of the drug and its use it on hundred over patients. Getting exposed and you know it. What is it defensive coordinator of the Washington Redskins do in this sport. But you didn't really whether he. Just. To her as a Voodoo doctor I mean this is some woman from Where does she practice whatever she practices? I read something briefly about her. Essentially be believing in alien DNA. Demon sperm, and other crazy You know I guess potions to make people better I don't know enough about her. I issues a doctor in Nigeria or was it. Somewhere else was a guy. Where was wasn't. Anyway, I don't look. That wears fire. The bigger issue here is that. You know when you are when you're new to a place. And you have a diverse group of people that will be reporting to you. and you're in a climate like the one that we're in right now and you're an adult I don't know why you're spending so much time on social media. I don't know why you're making your politics known on Social Media I. Don't know why you continue to get duped by fake tweets. UNSOCIAL median seemed to be completely unmoved by it. Let's I mean I'm not suggesting he can't multitask and that he doesn't have the right to express the way he believes I firmly believe in that I just don't think it's very bright. I mean if I understand he's he's A. He's a guy that's established. You know he's not up and comer that he has some stature in the League is a former head coach in a successful defensive coordinator in mind in this league I. Don't know you get to a new place. Especially, when that new places as toxic as this place and you're trying to change a culture and in just a few days you're going to have a lot of. Of Young players who have a lot of different beliefs in verily in a in a very much volatile time, politically I just don't know why you'd go down this path. Where's the game for you? Unless your goal here is not to be the best defensive coordinator and leader of a football team, but potentially to to have some sort of activist role in your life when you're done with football I, don't get it I. Don't think it's very bright. Is that a conversation at the head coach should have with his depend coordinator I thought there would be a conversation the last time you know, remember his politics lineup completely with the owners, and maybe a lineup completely with Ron Rivera's but Ron Rivera's PA. I don't know what his politics are. I would bet that he probably leans a little bit more conservatively but that's a total guess, but he's smart enough to understand what his constituency is. which is a bunch of young players who have a lot of different beliefs, although in in an NFL locker room, probably the majority are very much. Less, a liberal leaning I mean he talked about yesterday. He's not going to kneel during the national anthem. He's going to kneel during the coin. Toss because he really believes in the military, but he's totally supportive of players who will kneel during the national anthem and support of their First Amendment Rights which by the way Jack del Rio when he was a coach, in Oakland, did come around had. Had to be convinced of of it being something that he would go along with with his players kneeling during the national anthem I don't know I I thought when he made those stupid comments and got duped by the AFC tweet, and was liking tweets from Sukhbir conservatives, both black and white on twitter. I thought he might get a talking to then, but clearly he didn't. Or if he did. CARE. Not a good sorry for the new era of the culture change Ron Rivera well. Again I don't I you know I don't have a problem with him. You know speaking his truth or what he believes, in I, just think in his particular situation new place toxic situation to begin with unbelievable climate that we're in right now as a country as a world that you know if he really was dialed in on football that he just lay low in. Save all this for another time. The only the only thing on on his radar. Should be. What's what's the best thing for the football to right? It's not this. I mean you don't think that if things don't go well that at some point, somebody in that locker room isn't gonNA. Say Well. He's a trump supporter. He's a racist. By the way is the default for a lot of people when when the when discussing people who either supported trump in sixteen or going to support him in two thousand twenty. You know in this guys made it very clear. What is politics are and they are going to be at odds with much of his locker room. I. Just don't know why you would do that. Why in a new place you know without these people, even knowing who you are and even having had one live conversation with you. If this is the first impression, you would want them to have of you. It just doesn't seem very smart again I'm not I'm not I. Don't have a problem with you, know he? His beliefs are him wanting to speak out on his beliefs I just don't think that the timing makes very much sense, but what do I know? That's just me What else? That's all I got off. So I got to. We're done for the day. I'll be back tomorrow I. Think I'll have a guest tomorrow. I'm not sure who it will be I've got a couple of possibilities Tommy will be back with me on Thursday. I have a good day.

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Full Show (Cam Newton, Mike Gundy, Lakers, Zion Williamson, Jacque Vaughn)

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Full Show (Cam Newton, Mike Gundy, Lakers, Zion Williamson, Jacque Vaughn)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host. Jerry Taft this podcast is the full show from today's episode undisputed from start to finish. They've got a busy slate. So Skip Shannon. Let's get to it. Good Morning. Welcome to undisputed. I'm Jenny TAP. Fails and Shannon Sharpe. It is Friday guys how we doing. Got Me playing for the WIKI who you're. By yourself I'll we having a one? May A barbeque really Yep for? June the dogs in the backyard does he and they'll. They'll eat more food than. They. will everybody smell like what's going on over there? I'm just glad I'm not wearing that Eagle Green. Shots fired that over there. I don't know about that. One Hand Barbecue Gym. Time we have a lot to get to before the weekend and I think we should begin by talking all things. Cam Newton because town has earned one hundred twenty million dollars during his nine year career, not including endorsement money so is one year one point seven five million deal with the patriots raised a few eyebrows, but cam to instagram yesterday to explain why he would agree to a minimum deal, he said quote. It's not a lot of things money can on five, but amongst the top of that list of things you would find respect as one of those. This is not about money for me. It's about respect Shannon. Do you agree with this point? Due to an extent scale, because sometimes people. Equate money to respect if you remember when Brian or lack of his last year when he was going back, and forth with the bears, and the bears often them two million dollars, he was thinking about going to the cowboys. I will play for the cowboys for two million I will not play for the bears for two million, because that I deemed that A. A lack of respect you see. Kinda tied hand in hand, but I. Believe What Cam Newton is talked about in this situation is not the dollar biggest guilt. It's about their teams. In the NFL Chicago bears maybe the San Diego chargers. Maybe a few other teams Kansas I'm better than your guys, and you didn't even give me a call. They did nothing. For ME GETTING I! Don't know because I haven't talked to. Anybody closed camp, but I'm looking at. I'm looking surveying the landscape and I'm looking around the thirty two teams and I know some have quarterbacks startling entrenched into starting lineup, but when you navigate the leave, you look around you like wrong. Apparently in Chicago. Better than what they got to. Say Excuse me L. HR. He's better than those guys. Yeah, there are a couple of other team. Jacksonville Cam Newton is better than the quarterback that they got currently on the roster. y'All wouldn't give me a call. y'All would even asked me to. Ask Me for an interview. Just pick up zoom. Zoom with the new, thank. Zooming late, let me do a lot of doom. I feel port. Yeah, I feel in that. Zoom with the dogs. Like I feel like a CEO or so yeah, so I believe for me. Skip I believe that's what cameras talking about I believe he says yeah. Okay. Yeah! I understand that and we saw Richard Sherman make opposed give disrespectful that Cam Newton have to play for you. One little over a million dollars given what he's been in the League, giving his success in the league, but for me when I just look at it and I. Stay up step back having played in this league for fourteen years. He's absolutely right. You want to be respected and some time money comes along with respect because we're going through. Dallas your hold Oldie respect me. Respect me, give me what I ask because I've been playing for this little bit of money now over the last four years and done great I done better than what you thought but Is Looking at it representatives skipping looking at lack of respect, but I don't believe that's what cameras talking about in this situation, the money situation I believe because he believed there are four five other teams that within the league that he's better than their starting quarterback. He's better than their backup quarterback. Yeah, and you wouldn't even give me a call so I believe that's the respect back that he got that. He's talking about this situation, okay? So my big takeaway away from cams. Post of yesterday was. It hit me as profoundly sad, and I told you last Monday. Just, after we'd heard the noon Cam to Belcher right. I said. I'm not sure whether to offer congratulations or condolence. That's in part because of what's not left in the cupboard on offense New England number one number, two and maybe more important. How little money was paid to this man who just it was just five years ago, won the MVP dominated this league? He terrorized this league. Got That team fifteen one to the super bowl, he did not play well in the Super Bowl. A play better than Peyton did, but he did not play well. Denver Defense took the game over, but he's still got to the Super Bowl. In a fairly short time we went from that to this and I'm going to read these figures one more time because. I? Get what he's saying about. It's like money can't buy happiness and he's saying money can't buy respect either, but in the end your your salary. Can pay you respect. Obviously, it's the ultimate measuring stick in this society. Right it is. It's how we measure the respect. Your employer gives you is by your salary in the end, not always but mostly so. Bill Bell Check got away with paying him by waiting it out. In leading the entire League reject Cam Newton former in EP, but he got away with paying him the bare rock bottom minimum for a man, a player of. The year, the okay, it's barely one million dollars. Only about half of it is even guaranteed. It's five hundred and fifty. Thousand is guaranteed, so I told you I tried to put this in perspective. That's the nine hundred eighth highest salary in the National Football League. There are nine hundred seven higher paid players in the League, and it's the fifty eighth highest paid quarterback salary in the league. This Cam. Newton we're talking about and I know he struggle because he's been all hell. We talked and talked about I, died for the cause for the Carolina Panthers but still. Despite a shoulder surgery and despite a list, frank surgery on his foot. He's thirty one years of age which ain't too old for it of quarterbacks. Got One that's about to be forty three in Tampa him, but a lot of quarterbacks are entering their prime just right about now, right? So if he's healthy and you got away with paying him barely one million dollars. That, that's just not right right, and then I reflect back. On Johnny's favorite quarterback Kirk cousins just two years ago, he went to the Vikings for three years at eighty four million dollars. Now think about this and it was all guaranteed. And he just got A. But just take his. Minnesota contract, eighty, four million guaranteed cam, just got guaranteed five hundred fifty thousand watt. Okay so this comes across to me as a Cam Newton who is such a proud man. He's got such a huge Orhan Charisma personality. And it just got stomped on by the national football league crushed him, and this came across as. It's saying I'm going to win back my respect either I don't think he got paid a lot of respect by bill bill, but if in fact he's going to get the opportune to win the starting job, and we're not even completely sure about that, but if he's at least given the opportunity, then he can win back tons of respect because. He does have the ultimate opportunity in. It's in that. It's the ultimate challenge, right? You get to go to new. England or replace the goat. The man who won got to let's just say put it this way. He got to nine Super Bowls in the last twenty years. Is that not the ultimate challenges? Step into those shoes swing and yet. I told you on Monday there. Just a handful of humans capable of bearing up under that challenge. This man is definitely one of those. So even though his pride got stepped on him back to your fact, this league rejected him roundly rejected him it. Came down to one of three African American coaches. Who coached the not San Diego but Los Angeles chargers a guy. You played with them. Anthony Lynn In I, don't know how much actual decision making input coach Lynn has the bigger structure chargers probably some but not final say. But even that team coach by that man said no, when. All they had was tyrod Taylor, I respect his game because he did get buffalo to the playoffs and lost plan or six to three playoff game at Jacksonville. Okay, but he's pretty good. But he's not Cam Newton, and then they go out in the draft, and they take a guy six overall. Neither you nor I think that much. No, we are not sold on Justin harbor now because if you're saying just in Herbert, Cam Newton Justin her take, stop it really I. Mean You love to? Maybe if you're going to versus canvas, then okay long-term long-haul. We go on and on about that, but but the point is that they took Justin Herbert over Cam Newton, and probably sooner than later he'll be in their starting lineup. Maybe it mid year I. Don't know maybe a game. One for I know okay, so that team moving into so-fi stadium, needing a marquee draw in whatever you WANNA. Say About Cam Newton. There's one thing for sure you cannot take away from. He is box office big box office because he's Fund awarded Randy Moss. Say It drove me crazy because I respect brady so much, but Randy Moss is. You're going to see. The Fun brought back into that Patriot offense. It's going to be so much more fun to watch than it used to be okay if I give randy that much, I still can't see how. It's more fun than Super Bowls Twenty years. That's a whole nother issue right, but if it's that much fun to watch camp play football. How can you not be a lightning rod? Draw going into a? Billion dollar statements several billion. Right Yep okay. It's about to have a grand opening. What if you put that man's name? Yeah Right. Yeah, okay, so why would you put that man's name on the Marquee Yard Jumbotron? Okay Hundred Yard jumbotron and could just fill it us because. As we know everybody plays him, says they always say you can't believe how huge he is? Six five two. I don't know. He looks like he's leaned. Complete Vegan. Phone while you're fortyish. Maybe he's played at two fifty six easy. He can impose his physical will on teams if these healthy so if he's healthy now. So, he has the opportunity to do this, but. So he, he. Posts in this this I g post that this is not about money for me. It's about respect and then he's got. You'RE GONNA have to explain this one to me, but he goes with that Purple Devil Emoji over greater than the money bag, and then he just keeps going across, and he goes one, two, three, four, five, six, those purple devil a modem. Okay I can mean a whole lot of things to me. I'm not sure how. Can explain exactly. Look me. Try to explain. Try to play with J. Trump's me was his jerry. They made a lot of different things. They might mean something to you and I. Know, that's not what it bit without. Okay so I guess. He got something cooking skill. Okay, he he got something. Cook you. Some definitions I looked it up last night to see I'm missing a definition here, but it can mean X. Excite Leonard and excellence and. Like he's going to show people okay good, and then we got some hashtags. Would all know all I know is work right okay. I'll buy that one. I'm betting it all on me the YEP. That's what's about to happen because they're not betting it all you better bet it all on. You right shine through the shade. I think that's the ultimate hash tag because he's feeling a lot of shade right now. Feels like a lot of these teams shaded. Him wouldn't even give Cam. Newton to call. Skip I. Think the thing. Is that when you look at it? There's no unemployment for professional athlete. You see what happened during this pandemic. Laid off. Some of them were able to get unemployment and some of the unemployment benefits was more than they were actually making. In professional sports give if you get laid off, someone doesn't pick you up. There is no unemployment benefits. No, so, what do you cameras looking at it? Like okay now I can sit here and be on my prior to that is beneath me. Bear the guy that may twenty million dollars last year. It just football center from not mistaken. Yeah, and they're offering me this out. Wish I might except Bash where you fit their on your pride, and do what or I can go back playing for this one little over a million dollars show that I'm still Cam Newton. Because remember in two thousand eighteen cam got off to a great start hurt shoulder. He tried to played. I will tell you that's stretching. Two thousand eighteen. That looked like twenty fifteen me, so I'm going to give you that of the four years that felt below average. The overall numbers are below average, but there was a lightning strike right there of super, and then what happened hurt the shoulder, he tried to play through it or their calls on top and then boom. All of a sudden it things got worse, and then he hurt his foot so for me skipping. You have to look at a situation like this skip. A man is out of work, and he has a family to feed. What would that man? What would that what John? What type of job would that man excel at? Obviously, he did accept less because it's better than nothing. Camp needs to get back. Cam can't prove that he's healthy. Cam can't prove that he the old camp. On his couch and Atlanta. No Cam needs to be only football field. He needs to be on a roster. Give it an opportunity to show that I'm still Cam Newton and I can get this done and get out of the little. They heard surprised. You'd go from twenty million dollars to one million, absolutely Some of these other guys look at traced who've been? Get it if you've been gated. They man for he may seven million as a backup, five million, six million. You see all these guys making all this Nola. Why don't mean it? But See, skip and I tell people. I tell people all the time is harder if you're a great player of biddy great player to be a backup, then being a career backup because they become in everybody's like Oh. Hey, no problem, not Shave Daniel, and some of these other backup. That's why Josh mccown. League eighteen nineteen years. Piece Patrick, if even when tour about he'll go somewhere else to stand on the two or three years, but he's no threat. No, let's bring him in. And he's no threat to your starter like like Seattle. I kept thinking Seattle. Make a play for Cam because they have Gino. Smith is their backup, but. Cams better than Gino runner Lee he would be such a threat to Russell Wilson his heart. When you've been thinking about, this is harder to be. Be The guy when you're used to being applause being for you, and then all of a sudden you hear that applause someone else. That's not easy to handle. Trust me I've been there I've been I've been and all of a sudden like. Oh, that's that's the guy that makes me. Cool Up. there. You know have. Little little tiny. Cheer for Taty. I live a Todd Kane I was. That was my last year in Baltimore they drafted todd, they drafted. And then then then. But I had a great conversation with is, and he explained it to me like, but I mean. And plus that's the things I believe Carolina had sat down with Kale and explain the situation. It was like they tried to make. It seem like Cam requested a tree when all the while they were trying to do cal. Camp could've handled that if they're the just talk to me I the nine years. Give them a been in this relationship, but what Tom needed to understand this with a different dynamic. Yeah, now all of a sudden, the owner that drafted you. He's no longer there. They got a new head coach so the coach. The relationship you have, Ron. Rivera is no longer there. Even who I think is still wasn't Mardi Mardi Marnie draft. And he was replaced by. Then, he came around so skip I. believe there's a situation, but they could've sat down with. Cam explained the situation Cam this. Well, we won't I mean. Would you be willing to work at a discount? But none of that and they played it up like Campbell's requested a train when they were trying to get rid within the news had already signed Teddy Bridgewater and he publicly called them on it. Don't you be putting those words in my mouth effect exactly so scared by believe that's the thing I mean I. It's tough when you've been this guy. All of a sudden and you think that you're better than something. Some of these quarterbacks elsewhere and the teams don't even call you. Yeah, okay back to kirk cousins, speaking of Kirk, he said yesterday he raised that suspicion flag again on Bella checks saying based on putting I'm paraphrasing, but he said don't be surprised. If there's some plan here, we're not seeing will you? And I discussed yesterday? The possibility that maybe Bella check sign can to do cam package plays to do. I don't know ten twelve fifteen plays the game, right? That, he would throw or run in Cam style. While stood, be stood is Bella check him. It would be the starter that Cam. Protect Cam from too much contact taking too much punishment by ten twelve plays a game as a nuclear Tastes Hill New Orleans precisely and that then maybe it would make more sense because you'd be saying. We'll check got him on the cheap because he's going to use them conservatively for me. I've been stopped trying to figure out. because. Nobody has been able to hit it on the nail all. He's going to drop this guy. He this position and this guy who Taylor this is a Patriot guy. He takes kicker. He takes oath give. He loves Lebar. Jason He's secretly. With that. We're in a lot of that. So I've given up trying to figure out what coach bell takes go to because he's going to do the last thing that you expect him to do, and that's I guess that's what makes him such. The genius that yields because he's willing to take players that didn't or couldn't perform at other locations, and he can get the cow van though he can get the Jamie Collins and he can get guys it. On, wasn't that in Buffalo, so all of a sudden Stefan? Gilmore more rate was he got the New England though he got with somebody that he did have to paint a bunch of you. Don't have time, but he. Played market value. Go to the grocery store a the mucus. Vote out gave the book, people. In Boston Co Relatives I. For anything, but but that's the way he operates guilt. He believed that in his coaching and his system that he can pick guys in. Get them on the cheek. Get them to perform, and then if you know if your performance is more than I'm willing to Play Bay I. Appreciate a La Rebus. That is correct. Bell check also got away with in signing cam that that he qualified all of his incentives as not likely to be reached with because can you had no stats last year? So so you can sort of trick it up and jump through a loophole in the salary cap. They don't count your taps if they're not likely and you do them off his stats. Well. He didn't have any stats last year to speak of. and. That's kind of how they do it to avoid the implication knowing that if there's. A they probably the if I'm not mistaken I think they did that with some. They did that with some Brady's a number. He hasn't been saying his last year. If he gets to the super. Bowl and things of that nature bid Gronk. If I'm not mistaken when you're, but they do skip with as you mentioned per capita implication knowing that many guys healthy get those stats, but we. We don't want the money to count visger. We'll let account next year. We've kicked. The can down the road in address then, but I think this is a great situation for camp. The only question that I have if Cam Newton's healthy cam. Newton could be Cam Newton. I'll leave Cam. Newton they'll allow him to be. We want to be skipped if he's Superman. You don't ask Superman. Is Flying to all of a sudden drive. You let him be who he is. He's a superhero. That can you let him fly? I just hope he gets the opportunity to fly, and if he does, he can win respect this opposed to being paid respectfully read. Our. which holds the naming rights to the Washington Redskins stadium has officially asked the franchise change its team name, which has been used since nineteen, thirty, three native American leaders and groups have protested the nickname for years and tried to win in court, but those efforts have failed so Shannon. Will the name finally be changed? It will I believe it's just a matter of time now. Because now they're starting to hit Daniel. Snyder, whitworth would pretender and that's in his back pocket. Now he can be stubborn and bull headed and try to and and and miss. Who needs the extra hundred fifty million dollars in advertising but skip. That's nothing to sneeze at. That gets people's undivided attention, and what Nike took down the the the merchandise that I took it down the website. He has reported the eighty seven investment firms and shareholders, worth collective, six, hundred, twenty, billion, Nike Fedex and Pepsico said Look. There were asking y'all need to terminate. This because this is the only thing that's GonNa get attention and skip. Daniel Snyder will it will not be a better time than right now. He can do it now with no problem because the people that wanted to hold onto that name. They was like you know what given the climate and where we are right now. We understand that so much pressure true now I get it are polls in the nineties that said the native Americans weren't offended by this, but there was a poll that pulls in the two thousands, but here's one that useless conducted, in February and fifty seven percent, who strongly identified with being native, American and sixty seven percent frequently engage in tribal culture practices. Are Deeply insulted by Karadzic Caricature of the native American culture. which could run deeper than just that nickname exactly skilled? You know what you know what the problem is. You know why people don't WanNa give the nickname. People that create something having a hard time, being told not to use it. That's what people use the N. Word because they created it they. Do, native ever called himself risking. The people that invaded the night. That's holding to run. By You that! Because they want to hold onto it. Daniel, Snyder. They made it just like press Marshall they say okay. You want to move you moving into you. Put Black football team. Guess what he did is killed. Bobby. With I think bobby passed the way. Put It on the team. And all of a sudden they started getting black players now. They've already told him. You're not getting a new stadium until you may remember. They drafted Ernie Dave's. That was the first. George Press Marshall said Okay I give in. Nineteen sixty two. He's the last one last holdout for integration. Okay, I'll draft him Ernie Davis and he said no I will not play for you. Okay and so skip. I think the thing is with this but the. About Nike Nike's the fish out of the NFL you're looking at these big corporations killed. That's a hundred. That's potentially hundreds of millions of dollars now they pool. They're not going to be the only ones that pull out of this Yup. And so it's not it's. I don't think he's going to have much of a choice and I don't think the climate is any better than it's ever been for him to make that chain. Skip forget the climate. If the right thing to do whatever happened to doing the right thing, we're forget the crime. Forget the temperature of where we are in society, a deterrent time. What about doing the right thing to try to make it a habit this since I've been on the air with you I. Don't refer to that last name I'd say. Let's give I. don't even one person to tell me. Something is offensive I don't need fifty I. Don't need the whole, the whole popular demographic. If one person says you know what skip out of great I got a great relationship with a guy at CBS. He was camera three Frazier Meizu. To call them each euro because he was viewed Japanese his sister's path and. Each role in Japanese me, his born when it's supposed to the first born, he came to me, he says. If they shannon you'd say. Can you do me a favor? I said. WHAT'S THE ICHIRO? He's not reporting me. As each Roy Moore I, said sure, he said my sister passed, and she was the burden on. No Problem Frady pro-death point on. All he needed to do was tell me. I've in that all along now. Still got a great relationship. They told you they don't like it. I don't care what I don't care about nine I. don't care if it's ninety five percent says okay. That fire percents says No. Leave it alone. Okay. Everything you just said music to my ears I have been campaigning for years for this nicknamed. Go Away. I will be honest with you. Be completely transparent. I tried for a while in two thousand fourteen. Not to it. It gets during the football season virtually impossible when you're on a sports debate show to use that nickname because it's just the name of the when you say washing it doesn't. It doesn't even have the right ring? so forgive me for the job, but I have campaigned as have many others in the media to get rid of this nickname for I. Don't know how many years for me ten fifteen years. It was just wrong from the start, right. I think Dan Snyder newness heart-to-heart. It was wrong, but he grew up. Redskin fans, father, taking him games at old RFK stadium. And the sentimentality of the deep love that he has for the teen blinded him to to how that nickname does a thin some native American you're not not all. In yet we went through this big flurry of tension in twenty fourteen. Because there was a prospect, they were going to lose their trademark. You WanNa talk about getting hit in the pocket book. If they did not change the name and I. Don't know how Dan Snyder pull this off, but he issued a statement at that point. I will never, and he put it in all caps change. This name and apparently Dan Snyder has friends in high places. Nation's capital high. Because somehow that case against his trademark, somehow win away in the bowels of the. Of our judicial yeah I don't understand it, but it went away. During that time he would on a campaign to convince people there was nothing wrong with that nickname, and he did so by by basically doing a national tour of different reservations. Visiting with different tribal chiefs, he also gave four million dollars to native American causes. and. He had five of his ex players led by Chris Cooley we had him on the other show at ESPN, and they were just campaigning to try to enlighten people that most like a vast majority of native Americans were not offended by that nickname, and there was the most talked about poll of all came out in twenty, sixteen via the Washington Post highly credible at that point, website and newspaper. And it. It's surveyed five hundred four native Americans out of the five million native Americans. We have in our country now. A pretty good sample size again. I'm never quite sure about this, but five hundred four nine out of ten said we are not offended by the nickname. The NFL then conducted its own poll soon after that and found that it was actually. Respondents to the poll who were not offended, but the NFL found that the the those survey between ages of eighteen and twenty nine. We're strongly by seventy. One percent opposed so so. What we've seen in the recent proteome, the younger people like telling you. The younger white people are saying no more of this. We've seen enough of this. We're all with our black brothers and sisters. What do you need from us now? Right case so it's a surge of youthful thinking. It's enlightened thinking and you mentioned this skip. It may be a point in time with the older generation says you know what it's been so long nothing we can do. The younger generation hailed now there is something we could do older generations so beaten down yes, because they were so oppressed that they finally just said. We. We give up scoop I can see if he if he named it after one of the tribe the Cherokee. CHICKASAW Shawnee. That's not a triumph. Derogatory term. What what part don't you get about that? Okay so I've gone back and forth for years about just how derogatory the term is, but all I know for sure is that there are some native American leaders who find it extremely derogatory. It's difficult for me. This is just my two cents sitting in this chair. Right here. It's difficult for me to equate that nickname with the N. word which I told you countless times. It's the most evil word in our language. Is it a racial slur that nickname that we're not speaking right now. To summit is to others just a derogatory term, right? It's just sort of a derisive tarm, but. It's it's difficult for me to equate the suffering. That you're people went through African. Americans in this country starting in sixteen nineteen born of slavery. And the sufferings of the native Americans in this country they are both America tragedies. They don't equate. I can't compare and contrast them because they're so different, but I've told you before. I grew up in what used to be called Indian territory the state of Oklahoma it means Red Man Oklahoma five civilized tribes were relocated from southeastern united. States states from Florida Georgia Alabama. They were forced in relocation to March all the way to Oklahoma to Indian territory to relocate onto reservations, which then got further taken away from them by the Oklahoma Land Run. When when y sellers said well you. You got enough land. We're GONNA. Take more of your land. Okay, in basically just for for our younger viewers. You don't get this. They were here I. This was their land. Yeah, when Columbus discovered America, it was populated by native Americans. And what did we do as in my four hundred hour? Paid a good price for we gave them what I'll be. Did we play I mean. Didn't they pay for it? I know Columbus 'cause I know. That's not white. Man would never riot. Kill somebody new that them. The white men basically declared war on the native Americans declared war and said if you will give, your land will take it from you in there was. Shed, and by the way that forced march of the trail, became known as the trail of tears. There are about sixty thousand removed nearly ten thousand died on the March of disease and hunger, and a lot of Aviv came when they came here brought me, but over here, thank bill vs over here, just fine, just harmony. Okay now let's go to the origin of this nickname. Say redskins. We're did pop up. What how did it? Jump into existence well, it happened back in nineteen, thirty two. When George Preston Marshall. Tried to. To to put a football team in Boston Massachusetts, when football was not popular, it was a baseball town. There was no basketball. There was little to no football yet, and so at first they were the Boston braves, because they shared a stadium with a Boston in Nationally Baseball team also referred to as the braves okay, and then when he had to move to thin way park I guess he probably wanted to move the fenway park. Just share space with the red sox. He thought well. Let's change. The nickname braves to red skins. Okay, so it's kind of clever red sox. Right Redskins, but he. He knew it was going to be a problem. So how'd he tried to sell it to the public? He went out and found a man who was said to be part Sioux Indian. At that point should native American righteously, but that he was part Sioux. His name was Henry. Dietz Lonestar Star deeds and made him the head coach of the Redskins just to try to sell it so clearly George Preston Marshall knew it was a problem right when I was a little kid growing up watching what we're called cowboy and movies well. What happened when when they were going after the Indians? The Dunn's Lousy Redskins. It was at the very least it was a derogatory term. Right and I've always said set it on TV many times. Can you imagine an early NFL owners, saying you know what I want to pay tribute to the slaves who were the backbone of our economy for so many years in this country I'm going to call my new NFL. Team the black skins. How would that have gone over and how long? Or okay there okay. No okay, no, but redskins somehow work because the redskins. The native Americans are so oppressed. Yes, they got beaten down into two reservation existences where they just they didn't have the leadership. No To fight back, know your community has had strong leadership over the years so pressed as you have been right, it is powerful. Starting with Dr King and I can I can do Malcolm X. and I can go to Jesse Jackson and I can go to Al Sharpton and I go to Shannon Sharpe in. gaul strong powerful voices. And this this. Again The native Americans are split into. Try Right so that's hard to unify and unite right. Yes, and so they haven't had that one powerful voice to defend them. Until now they have fallen into a time in which thanks to your community, we have had some racial enlightenment since new racial sensitivity I believe. Yes, it is the battle up. No, it's not. But I believe we've reached a as enlightened a point in our growth in this country as we ever have. Yeah, thanks to skip I think a think. America is more open from a from A. From a people perspective now that remains to be seen. Skip if all this movement is going to lead to lead in it. Remains to be. But I do believe get because the tests. That, all the remnants of racism from from slavery, racism are slowly coming down the statues the symbols. And in racist behavior is being attacked publicly in ways it never has in the history of this country. At least we're having significant progress right now. I don't believe we've ever had, and it feels good to me, but but again we've only just begun to your point. Okay, so let's finish on George Preston Marshall what happened to him well. He finally relocated team because they didn't they wouldn't. Pay to see it roster even won the division, and nobody would come out to see it. He moved it to Washington DC and he kept the name Redskins Washington redskins. What happened is we just mentioned George Preston? Marshall became known as the biggest bigot and racist in the national football right and he was the last to integrate took until nineteen, sixty two, and that was under threat from Robert Kennedy, absolutely who threatened to take away his thirty year lease of what became Robert. Stadiums he threatened to take away pilot George. We reached this watershed moment that we have right now with with Fedex Nike Pepsi Pepsico saying Oh. What if we pull back here right and remember the the Fedex. Chairman right now is a minority holder in the team. Right correct, okay, so when all the way in the time. George Preston Marshall, owning the team that that surely Povich the great columnist for the in Washington this collins. said that that he was one of the great innovators in the national football. He brought in the forward pass right the first one to suggest we should allow people to throw the ball across the line of scrimmage, and Shirley included, and he's also the NFL's leading biggest. Okay, so that's the guy who started this nickname. What should that tell you in twenty twenty? Well. It's been wrong because that's the guy who started anything you know things that were acceptable or people deemed acceptable back then. They're not acceptable now, so you should move on I mean. Know there are a lot of actors than Bob Bill and did they dressed up in black face, but you try to do that now and people like what are you? What are you thinking? Because finally, people are standing up and saying. What are you thinking, so let it go. He makes it seem like well. If I change the name, the team disappear. No this is going to come out and they're still gonNA. Come out support you can you can. You can find another name to name this team. It doesn't have to be a derogatory name so obviously. The Atlanta braves remain the. Right in yet. It's Dan Snyder who says the original intention was to pay respect and to honor native Americans. Will Not with that nickname if you'd call them the Washington braves in one, thousand, nine, hundred thirty. The Boston braves as they originally were right right then you'd be okay with their brave. Afraid Yeah, we get that right okay. You went all the way to playing off. Red Sox to Redskin. Didn't work from the start, and that was in the thirties, and it got grandfathered through the years and I'm just hoping that you're right about this. I will believe it when I see it because of those friends in high places, but to your point, if fed ex is saying no, and now it appears Nike is saying no now. The pocket book is going to be hit. You know who we needed to. Go thirty one other owners Bingo who needs to say no, they do, and they would have to be unified our commissioner, and and again. Can Somebody get them together to make a statement to the one owner in DC to say you know what it's enough? Does your boy yeah go talk to him? By saying that I mean well? Thank Jerry, talk about it. At all of a officer, Jerry King talk now. He's lost his voice I. Don't I don't know what happened, but anyway you're correct I'm with you, did those? That moves the needle. I think the history was really important. Skip to Spain I did not realize the connection of Boston everything there, but it didn't mark. Twain sites never wrong to do the right thing at this our we still even debating this and I think it's crazy. How many times we talk about it I? Hope that we finally see change that so long overdue. Oklahoma state announced that an internal review of head coach Mike Gundy quote uncovered no signs or indication of racism, but his contract was reportedly shortened by a year, and included a pay cut so shannon. What is your reaction to this? I'm not surprised. And considering that the pay the by out of my Van Gundy about sixteen million dollars. I understand it, but given the the history, and the the magnitude of this scope I believe they should have gone out to outside counsel and had them do the investigation instead of internally because. Our you their best to get yourself and let us know what you come back. What you think about Kobe with. Doing for about five six years. You know of course. You can't tell me a. you gotTA. Open. Take this test home if I take the. Skill so this? That's the problem that you have and people look at it. Hold on! You did an internal investigation. Love Yourself A. we expect you to find that Oh. Yeah, you were wrong on a number of issues. Nobody's going to believe that you're gonNA. Come back with anything that you deem that you did anything wrong. He there's a thing he could work better with with the players on his team, but that's something that you know. He could build on that now. Look at these issues and people try to make it about the t shirt is not about the T. shirt is cumulation of things that Mike Ban gun to have sad doing. That gundy. Might GonNa hit, said Oh tenure as the head coach of Oklahoma state now I've talked to. Some people that that knows him. That's been around him and for lack of a better word, he the pre. He there. And now that doesn't necessarily mean that. He's racist and I'm not here to call them back, but he does the thing you did. You were the first to report. Go ahead of IBM using the n word to our week. Now I did a game in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty nine. He used inward to. The quarterback at Oak. They were getting their butts kicked at. First they had beat Oklahoma. Colorado had beaten Oklahoma state and I. Think in a very long time right, so you got frustrated. Utter that word, according to Alfred and. McGee. Mike Jones with another guy that was on the twentieth. Fifteen accident heard him say it might've been gundy denied it obviously, but if you remember alcohol Williams Position Coach Bob. Simmons got the head coaching job at Oklahoma state. He got there. He demoted him. Point. At Forgotten I'm not saying that was read the wall, but I'm saying that's what happened, so skipper me. There's so many things that's going on. I mean he's been echoing. He's calling it the Chinese virus. He remember he said. We need to get these doodles back on campus. We keep that money Oklahoma scale. Forget to help you don't worry about that. If hard for me to believe that a coach. The players own team's name. That's sometimes you. I get it. You know old school coaches. They try, but for this and he's like he referred to him a Jersey numbers, and then one guy had passed out had to be revived, and he started practice right back up. Guys guys were generally concerned about what's transpiring. Skip just I. Just think the thing is just put all the cards on the table leading outside, and that's what normally corporations do they know people going to look at like? We do this investigation ourselves. No matter what we come back with people going to say we didn't do nothing, but if we let somebody outside of this hamlet, who has no dog in the fight? Because no matter what Oklahoma's tell you. They got a dog in this fight skill and they don't want. This dog stayed so. I would have felt better, and maybe they come back with the same conclusion that Oklahoma state came back with that, yes, he can have a better relationship with his players, but there's nothing extraordinary out out of out of whack. Here is so let's just leave it. Maybe they come back with that same conclusion, but I think a lot of people would have felt better. Had they had someone outside? Do the investigation and come back with this conclusion that they found but. It's going to be. Interesting to see moving forward. How the black players feel about buying bang gun, too, because a lot of this stuff is become public that. was weren't public. Because a lot of these guy warning born in eighty, not gonNa do you that they weren't even born in ninety skills, so you gotta come back two thousand before a lot of these kids. Knowing, what's going on on? The one point I disagree with you on is your first point that you were not surprised? That he kept his job. I'm surprised because I'm just profoundly disappointed in in this university and I did grow up in that state. In Oklahoma City I was a university of Oklahoma Fan so they were the rival, not an arch-rival Texas. The are try, but they both were orange derived right. Even, though it never could SORTA, live up rivalry right is not Alabama over and by the way that guy is two and thirteen against his in state rival. That's why I thought he was on the thinnest of is. In the. Strongest media voice in the state of Oklahoma's Berry trammelled columnist for the Oklahoma and the most plugged in of all the journalists and Oklahoma, and he said on his oblivious on his radio show day after this I broke when he was pictured in the Oh, a in shirt while he was fishing on Lake Texoma. Berry Trammell said that he was going to be surprised if he kept his job until the weekend three more days in that he was told that they were ready at Oklahoma, state to move on from Mike Gundy right, but to your point it was going to cost sixteen million bucks, and it's a lot of money, and some of the more well. He'll boosters going to help subsidize the sixteen million dollars right. Oklahoma was a trump state in two thousand sixteen I have no idea if it is right now, but every county and state of Oklahoma voted for Donald Trump in two thousand sixteen. So you can, you can guess you can maybe leap to the conclusion that a number of the most wealthy boosters of Oklahoma State University are trump supporters, so they had no problem with him wearing an eight t shirt example Willie tagger new Florida state. Yeah, and I think of Biot- with twenty one million. These coach at Florida State. They won't does W analysis with they. Won't you go? Yes, they'll get you about whether about performer the I. I know but I'm saying they want you go. There's not amount of money that the boosters won't put up to get you out of their win. The won't you to stay you, ain't they? No I'm not I'm not saying anything about race with no, I'm with you. Got It. I got it about my gundy. Because let's walk quickly back through the sequence. During a conference call with reporters soon after the pandemic hit, and he uttered that thing about we gotta get him back in. School, so we can. Handle that money through the state of Oklahoma our run through the. He also volunteered without being asked that he's discovered a new network that he loves O.. A. N. and his point was which was a little weird, but he said it's it's not right or left. It's right down the middle. Just the facts, Ma'am right and I'm like okay, so he said it any took heat for it, and he apologized for it. I shouldn't. I should have done more homework. I'm going to assume I'm pretty sure I'll be correct about this because we talked about it before it. Then sent him some swag as in t shirts, or whatever to represent them, because they appreciated the publicity correct from my head coach at Oklahoma great and he got the t shirt, and then he chose one one fateful morning just a couple of weeks back. He chose to take that t shirt and put it on to go fishing in. What would that tell you? That, he's co-signing right? Absolutely. He's proud to wear I'm sorry I don't think you just throw. If you're that head coach in the public eye, and then you stand up and pose for a picture with your hall of fish that you caught it Lake Texoma, knowing that the guy is a reporter for CBS and he's going to post. There's a chance he's going to post it on his social media being the head coach Oklahoma state. How many Oklahoma state t shirts do you think make beyond beyond? Thousand I tend like like unlimited supply so all all. They're all brand new all this. Time and throw them out. Because you're not doing that the cowboy. That one? Oh a N.. I'm aware that will go fishing. Well what does that? Tell you okay so I told you know enough about the and so before we did the topic a couple of weeks ago on Youtube, trying to find something some video of what does it look like and I run across? A female commentator, talking about black lives matter and she calls it a farce. Okay that's all. I need to know because it is obviously pro-trump far right, but black lives. Matter is a farce ripe. Okay that then He. He warned that t shirt and Shubra Hubbard. Let me remind everyone if. He was the big twelve offensive player of the year, the leading rusher in all the country in college football could have left after last year and going into the draft and I'm pretty sure he would've at least been a second round pick Roy, if not a late first round pick, but he chose to go back to school. And then you know what he chose to say, immediately on twitter, I will not stand for this right and he concluded that I will not be doing anything for Oklahoma state until they change well, I'm thinking. Go Chubu go way to go, and it's this time. This time is right. This is the time for you to take this stand and your teammates to lock arms with you and take a stand against that man wearing that t shirt. What happened today later? We see a video gets made in the halls of Oklahoma state. Athletic Department I don't know. In their media hall right and it's Chuba apologizing to coach Gundy. I should have come to you with this. Instead of taking it I, associate. He apologized not my gundy. Apologize and Mike saying we're good. Everything's good now why? And I was disappointed. In Chubut stand, stand strong. Don't back off. Don't don't backs. Later he said that have not backing down on my stance, but it came across great. That he sort of and. He and he said well the problem that I was wrong for not going to coach gun to as a man. Well coach didn't come to you as a player and says where the t that's going to be highly offensive, knowing what that network represents and a lot of times that. President trump briefing they were, he addressed the media. They'll plant one of those and he happily Oh yeah you in the back over there and they ask him a question. You'RE GONNA. Just go. This is not no, they're not. They're not right there right down the middle. Just go take a look at it. You tell me right the bill, so mike holders the the golf coach and they've had a tremendous golf appropriate. Yes you got it, but my colder I know him a little bit like a good man, but he conducted the internal investigation, and you an iron, not by because his conclusion is, that might only needs to invest more time and building stronger relationships with his student athletes. But final takeaway was quote unquote. We uncovered no signs or indication of racism. What have we just walked through? Would, that was that. BIG INDICATION A big red flag of racism. Yes, well, how can you conclude that? So? They risk slapped coach Gundy. They cut his salary I. Don't know exactly much, but some took one year off. What was a five year rollover? So announce a four year rollover contract I think he's not gonNA. Lose any sleep over that. I could be wrong, but they did punish him. Quote Unquote to that degree. Are You satisfied Mr Sharp with all the above. You're not Mellberg. History of the things some of the things that he said in some of the things that you've done deserve. A a more in depth look. Yeah by people don't qualify to do that. It's skipping I'm not saying I. Don't know Mike Holder, but it's hard for me to believe that someone. The athletic director is qualified enough to dig that deep into go in the direction that an outside counsel could go into that certain thing in interview different people. How many people did actually interview? The take his word for it and ask one of the Ga.. Get, what you run into when you don't do a thorough. is we see that a lot? Is kind of going through the police department. Yeah, we talked to him and nothing happened because you don't have an outside person doing interviewing. Back in people's like. Look at you like you're crazy. Okay, so my final takeaway is Oklahoma. State looks like is going to have a pretty good team next year. Okay Chubias back way to go if this starts to hurt their recruiting, because this could affect living rooms and parents, and how they council their young sons. You Really WanNa. Go play for that guy. Tell you what this what to do. If you don't believe that t shirts factor when you go, recruit guys, put on going there, my grandma or their Mama, house, or today, as how put that t shirt. Oh, there's nothing wrong with the t shirt. Just show up to those black kids home with that t shirt on. That's all I'm asking. There's another it might hold you deem. There's anything wrong with it. GonNa doesn't deemed. There's anything wrong with that teacher. Put that t shirt on engulfing. Don't Mama grandma couch in see how fast those boosters come up sixteen million and gets you out of there. If you WanNa, know something. Juve put it on and just. Go about Your Business. That's not offending someone now. Lebron Anthony Davis made the returns to Lakers practice this week, and the team released this hype video and We watch it together. Let's take a lot. Just, keep watching it right. Lebron all smiles. Oh, I love it excited shedding tears of this. New After. Hey, hey, you hey. Chill. Chill rights gear Betas. Yeah, he called Bank. All this. Was Wide laughed at bank do that against Toronto game. When it gets Toronto, you remember you said the same thing. Even have any backboard to work with. The accidentally nicked it off the backboard and it went in. Do One hundred million. A year to banks always open. But I love what I do love. You love it I knew. Jane's. We come back in great shape. Why wouldn't these? Look is like anything. Lebron James Bond estimate two million dollars a year. The best nutritionists the best is your best trained chefs. That's what you do guilt. What panel you know doesn't use the best thing the best brush the best campus. If I play the Violin, I'm playing a spread of areas. That's what I'm playing Bailey because I'm the best. I made the best. Day comment you laugh. That's me. Yeah, you keyed! Yoda. Yodaya recommend you have the deal would be better. Be Several. You know what you Baker. I gotTA get out of this bubble. You talk about this this antiseptic bubble that we cover defaults. Be insufferable. Just ghost towns look. Look! Up postseason run. Talk about it like I'm healthy, but everybody's healthy. Everybody's. There's no question about this. Everybody's healthy skill, but I would also. To. Do like Shaq and Kobe. We'll do like that chat Kobe. Oh. I had to watch this like five times delivered almost in last night, and I got to the point where I needed to reach for your trash cans. What are you usually? Do trashing and you go? Off Right. That's what I felt like doing after. I watched it at the time. I'm like Hi Pipe, who ray we back, says lebrons. Back says Ad. Locked in. I mean this clinches it. It is over. I don't even know why they need to go to Orlando. I don't even know why they need to play anymore games. Why do they need all that bubble trouble? Why even put up with it? Because they just told you it is over. Why not just declare them? The NBA champions without actually having to risk covert by playing basketball games. All I. Know is when I finished that it felt like that the Los Angeles Lakers when it comes to high videos. They are like four-game sweeping those poor step children who live in the basement at staples known as the Los Angeles Clippers. The clippers cannot compete with that. And they don't compete because they can't and they won't. It's just not the way they do things because they're led by guy who wears Orthopedic Hospital Shoes AP. Made by old ballads, not new value. Right that's. What Louisianan sharp tells me every day on this show Lebron. James is the hype King. There's never been anything like that guy and I will give you this. He looked good in their. You looked a little lane. Actually I was little surprised. I, he's been biking. You know but I'm talking about not not exercise bike. He's been riding his bicycle. He and maverick Carter to the streets of Los Angeles. It's a little daredevil is really to get out there and those bike lanes. Hollywood will man came in the. Most busy. You dropped your weight I. Don't know it's striving for greatness and now that number three next. He is the assistant hype artist. He didn't used to be. But when you get in that guy's world, you just rise and shine you. Start striving for heightening just like the other guy does right so. I say just canceled the rest of the the postseason. It doesn't matter anymore. Because as eighty said not only are we back? We are healthy and when we are healthy, we are so much better than everyone else. It's over. They are prohibitive favorites and Rob Pelinka. The GM said not only that, but we are the most unified and united together team. So how can anybody in the bubble compete with that so I? Don't know why. The NBA would waste one hundred and fifty million dollars to stage the bubble. That's a lot of money. When you could just go with the high video as as the the shining mobile where? You call about you. Call it the. We call the dome. He's welcome to the Tara explode down. We got this thing on lock. They got a supermax prison or applause Colorado twenty three hour lockdown skill. That's what is the UNI bomber in handsome. They build the spy. Help the rush, of yeah, that's what they go. That's how we got this thing on lock. Three. Our Lot now, so why should we even play the game? We need to play. Do plus get. We gotta have to talk about I. Want to have to talk about coming here every other day. You like I do Lebron. WHO PATENTED PLAYOFF? Drought Forty and fifteen. Interesting so I'm going to remind everybody out there that these two teams played three times already in what used to be, the regular season seems like it's like five years ago is five months ago almost five months ago. And would you believe the step children one two out of the three games? Would you believe that? Kawhi Leonard Outplayed Lebron James Two out of the three times. That's that's pretty good. Right now on opening day in turn cases. Would you believe that Tim case? Opening day we got opening day pancakes right now. After that high video get hires no way Oh. Hello! What about Yoga Video? He'd drive around. It'll old google who he got Lupita. The crown dangle on the key. Town talk about the video. Do all that told? The truth data true. He dropped it on opening night. Right on Lebron's head, but it was eighty-five. All going to the fourth quarter on opening night at staples is Lebron. And what happened in the fourth quarter Lebron scored a grand total of two. Ad Got Zero skip. What have you done for me lately Update them resumes. God, last time we talked. Last time I looked. You just lost a starter avery. Bradley's a pretty good player. He's twice made all defensive teams, and and by the way in the one game you did win. He made six threes. He made four in the third quarter wild. The hype King was scoring. Zero in the thirty was avery, Bradley, who took the game over and gave you the edge that you were able to maintain through the fourth quarter, because what that did was Lebron, didn't really have exert himself and overextend himself in the third quarter because he knew that all quarter. 'cause we remember, when feel handerson them and takes what you WANNA do bro. I got it. He didn't say no name he he didn't say I got. PG. Heartless or I got this I got him. We refer to him. You know name. We don't say number two. We don't fake K.. K. Ale widow fake law. We don't fake Y. Hill Him You got him now. You got him and. We don't. All right we're. We go into Mama Neil. By the way. Lynyrd no longer has to load manage anymore because he also got five months off, so he also got to rest those creaky needs. Arthritic knees, and all the sudden from this point forward I don't think he needs to take any game. The game's going to be coming with greater right ladder. Might be, it might not be back the back, but they might be every day. And while the clippers actually Gioacchino Noah to the bottom of their roster I don't even know if you'll get to play there so deep, but the Lakers still are in doubt about whether Dwight. Howard is actually gonNA join them. He's got a family issue. He's worked through and he's got a cause that he believes skill joking him no. You. Don't even know what he he will compete Phil. He will fight you. Just stole seventy million dollars from a year. New York. He's the third string. You know. He's the backup the backup to the backup center. We look if we get we get the white. The white comes back. That would definitely hurt us because we only really have two bigs anyway skill, so that would really hurt debate into white, so we don't mad. Made it abundantly clear that he did not want to spend the lion share because minutes at the five percent. That's why they sound the wife. DoesN'T WANNA? Spend? Thirty eight minutes played the five nine the fourth quarter. We last eight six eight minutes. He got no problem, but sometime we might go juvenile to why Ad Braun and it who? They might be me out there, too. Because they might need you to. If Oh, and by the way I was on the fence, as was Lou Williams about whether he was GonNa Play Doc rivers is saying he believes Lou will play because he is so into black lives matter that he thought he might opt out of Orlando to concentrate on furthering the cause and yet it sounds like Lou Williams. The best in basketball is going to be their skill. Stink. This was a thermometer I to meet. God. Done. You're saying the clippers are done. Got This as we back? Off Broad look good but you. Don't say Geo. He must been working on when I'm up here. He must be working at my place. I'm going to award Lebron James. Video Championship he gets it. Dieter you one Lebron. You are now four and six in video championships. Cooper probably got a good. You think he's got good man. Got A. I don't think that is the case go. Oh, my Gosh, you are going to be inseparable Shannon. You're preparing us now for what to expect in a month. This could be a long. What for us? We saw all right I. Want to move on guys to Cam Newton because the guy has won a lot of awards throughout his football career, the heisman trophy NFL offense rookie of the year, and the NFL MVP award in two thousand fifteen, and then former pats exact thinks. Thinks willing to make room and his trophy case for the NFL, Comeback Player of the year award and according to Fox Bat Cam has the second best odds is only behind big. Ben's Shanna. What are the odds? Campbell Win Comeback Player of the year or even better. Mvp I like his comeback player of the year more so than MVP skip to win MVP normally. Your team needs to win ten twelve games now there have been. been a few exceptions, I think in two thousand twelve Adrian Peterson when ten, but you have to look at the season in which he had, he single handedly gathered team to the playoffs with the second greatest rushing, please in NFL, history, thousand ninety seven yards, Matt Ryan with eleven and five in two thousand sixteen, but more times than not usually twelve and four thirteen fourteen into. That's what it is GonNa take I believe to. To win the MVP especially with the current crop of quarterback, Lamar Jackson homeboy Russell Wilson skip. You'RE GONNA. Have to somehow get to twelve win Cam Newton gift that team to twelve wins yet he's GonNa to be in the running for the MVP now. The Comeback Player of the year I believe is more realistic now. He has his work, because been rothlisberger being been in, Pittsburgh he knows the offense brought with him backwards, he agreed. Physio he's got a leg up. He's got a leg up, but. I. Just don't see the MVP. Skip I just went with those cast of characters. These guys are getting better and better in the bed. And what? We thought still remember when Cam had that he had I, he had like what thirty he had like four hundred and thirty five touchdowns, twenty thirty touchdown, passing ten. Russian, and then we like Oh my God. And then we see Lamar Jackson go twelve hundred yards with thirty six touchdown passes. And then go pithy touchdown of my house, and so we see gather even what cams. Season in two thousand fifteen with, and that was an unbelievable season, and we think guys says like. Cams will raise your this, so I think more realistic skipped is Comeback Player of the year I would say being a slight favorite right now. Considering as you mentioned, he'd have a leg up being that system for the entirety of his career, but I wouldn't say okay I'm short. Okay my first statement is this. I'm going to deal with in the Pete. I have so little respect. For the talent around Cam in that offense. I'm being consistent in my opinion about what Brady was trying to deal with lashed writer and it. It's virtually unchanged. It's still Julian. Eshelman is your go-to. At thirty four coming shoulder surgery. He had a bad knee at cracked ribs last year. He led the League and drops I. Just don't know and he's an underneath type. And that's not Cams Cup of tea. No. So can the Keel Harry turn into the guy I thought he was when they drafted him out ever Zona State for Cam Sake I. Sure hope so everybody got okay so noon. He's coming often ankle surgery. We both thought he looked like a bust after they gave to implants. He's already. Catching passes out here UCLA from Camera K.. That's a nice start. Can you finish it? Can you show shoe turn back into the new of two or three years ago? In Atlanta I don't know they added Mir bird. They added Marquees lead. They're both question marks to me. I'm just not sure they got that much better. The tight ends as a unit. Were the most pathetic group in the league last year in productivity led by Benjamin Watson was thirty nine now obviously retired. Matlock causes back while Ryan is back, double wow. And Bill took two tight ends in the third round. One of them got mad at me on something. Twitter something the other day. We. Don Keane. I I have to look it up. Oh, yeah, Dalton King! He was the hundred and first player taking an I guess. Dalton thinks he's some combination. Rob Gronkowski and Shannon Short. Way To go Dalton I hope you're that good for Cam Sake because he's going to need you, but given what I just went through. Given that Dante Scar, Nekia, the greatest offensive line coach ever, and I loved Hudson how can his days in Dallas but scar is the Guy Joe Beauge. Was Job Bugles very good. God rest. But scar just retired a second time and I'm pretty sure it's over now this time, so if cam can go in there, and you picked them now to win the division, I'll even go so far as if they just do overcome the buffalo bills who had ten and six last year. What if they win ten games and win the division and out by ten to six ten six to nine and set right? I, I gotTa tell you cam. Just might get my MVP. Vote the just my two prizes, don't I? Got You but I'm looking at degree of right Golden. I already told you they face the hardest schedule in the league. In last year's one loss wreck given to think about what it took for. Adrian Peterson to win. The MVP tendency skip. That was a historic historic season and he was seven yards. No Two thousand ninety seven eighty hit twenty, one zero five zero. He was nine yards, okay I got you, but was he trying to replace the goat? But, so so with that being said skipped. Still believe yet is still a stat is still a stat record now. Obviously, the wind laws goes a long way, but you're GONNA have to put up numbers. I mean we're GONNA? Report five hundred five thousand dollars thirty five forty touchdowns Lamar Jackson I. don't see Lamar Jackson slowing down. Is Going to be Russ. He's going to be improper his. You Tom. The guy that has the third and be the Best Burger Bar. So if if what you give was the Tom Scott, the greatest weapons had in his twenty in his twenty first year. He's got his greatest weapons I know randomly. Collection, I got it. Cam is up against the goat his trying to. Step into those winged cleats that Brady War for twenty years and Boston Massachusetts Fox or What a challenge! The schedule is hard. You've got a whole wide receiver core dead last in the league and separation. You're not sure it's going to be much better so so to me if he wins. This division gets them to the playoffs. He's in the middle of the MVP I give. Like give comeback player the year. Might. In my book, he might get both auto. Okay well I'm just saying if you Max that out against these odds, and by the way we brought up the prospect, did bell check signing on the cheap just to run camp package plays where he'll get ten or twelve snaps game. He'll throw six passes and he'll run it six times. Whatever if that's the case all? This is all album and no. No, he he needs to get. The other day Michael Lombardi, who writes for the athletic for three years, two, thousand, fourteen to two thousand sixteen, was built bell checks right hand man in the Front Office Michael Lombardi, said yesterday on I believe it was his radio show. He said CAM is if he stays, healthy is going to win. MVP well, that suggests to me if he does have the inside knowledge on this that cams going to be starting quarterback. Right. Into a backup. Well I'd say a packet I And yet we both agree bell check. If he had his druthers, we'd would go to. The playoffs with jeered stabbed him. Because then he could say I did it again. I found a diamond in the rough time in the fourth round home grown. It's my guy instead of being able to or or having to say with Cam while he was a former MVP, and he reverted to MVP for Superman. But. He could belching love reclamation providence. He loved when people give up on. Lanier I told you this is why. I'm smarter than you got. Okay. y'All had this guy didn't know what you would do with it. Okay, so the point is the bottom line is and we're GONNA. Talk about this again with Eric Dickerson, just a couple of minutes here on show. But Cam posted on instagram that for him. It's not about the it's just about respect. He has an opportunity. If in fact, he wins the job. He has the greatest opportunity. You could imagine right to recapture tons of respect. Not Money not this year, but respect right and you could get a pay day if you do what we're talking about. Pull this. If you're at least in the MVP, chase and race. Next year. Okay Oh. Oh, he definitely can change the narrative. The Narrative Cam that he's done and all this, but you know. Guard, play like if you're healthy, then play like you know you can play. The nature you sitting there, you instead of a million dollars, you'd be playing for twenty plus million well again. He did not give away that the tag possibilities Russell. They could tag him next writer. He didn't give that up. So that'd be thirty seven million, so you could go from one million base to thirty seven million. That'd be pretty good. PAYDAY I might start training with abroad and call them back out. To get that kind of money out there. I think we'll be training with. Lebron look good. He look good. He needs to gain a little weight. He fire I mean. He's been riding his. Now. The NBA gave players a one hundred and thirteen page manual, explaining all the rules and safety protocols in the Orlando bubble, but Demar Derozan called the volume and specifics of the rules, pope frustrating and overwhelming, meanwhile Damian Lillard said he isn't confident that all the rules will. Be Followed Shannon. How silly do you find these rules? They are. They're very silly. Silly and I guess what the is trying to do. They're trying to minimize the risk of getting someone infected, but if I'M GONNA bubble. And I'm I'm guarding you man to man. I'm sweating on you data on the court. You doubt on the court. We died on each other. Okay, that's fine a good. Was We shower and go back to what we can't play table to? We can't play double tapered teams. We can't be next get. That makes no sense. It's kind of like if I got A. Family of five and we're in half together. We been quarantined together, but we gotta stay six depart. What the Hell is that about skill? That make it doesn't seem I thought. Everybody in the bubble have taken the proper measures and you're going to be tested that Masuma. You'll probably test everybody every day or every other day at the bare, minimum, Skilling I. It's not realistic. You can't tell someone. Next to me and touch me and be all over me actually on the court, but once we off the court. We gotta socially distance. That makes no sense than you can understand why the players will be plus graded also dame Lillard is absolutely right. Guy Goes. Stare crazy because they're not used to think about it. We thought this. With normal people imagine a guy that makes thirty forty million Houston going and coming in, and he pleased, and all of a sudden his access to going and coming has been greatly restricting. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA I'm leaving as just the way it is guy. Go Look. I hope everybody does follow all hundred and thirteen pages, but. Let's be real. We're rule breakers. What we do was just be limiting yeah. Okay, do you I mean you I do this? Be like somebody else. I Know Avenue it'll stars Don't rats out. Yeah, DRY DIGITAL! You Yup I. Just take my time. You know I know her. Enjoy music with the morning. That's why you're always lake. Okay I got disqualify myself before I launch on this because it's hard for me to be much of a Dhamar Derosier because remember. My team was forced by their guy number two. He forced his way out of town God. Bless him. He masterminded he pulled it off, but but the best deal they could make with an Eastern conference team was to get Demar derozen for Leonard Yuck. And JAKA pertile. I got a picture with Ya. On My. Demar! Derozan can't carry. Co is new balance sneakers. He's just not that dude and he was never that dude against Lebron and all those Eastern Conference playoff matchups remember all those. Would you call them the baby? Data audible. Maybe he'll a baby dinosaur, and this comes across as spoiled baby wining to me because while on the surface. What you just said, make sense. The truth is the facts are. that. That the NBA is trying to keep you as healthy as possible, so you can go out there and bang bodies and trade sweat with your competitor's because the problem is in the bubble. If one human breakthroughs and goes outside the bubble sneaks outside the bubble and comes back in infected. You know and I know what can happen, you break. So they're trying to do Dr Fao, CI rules inside the bubble Dr. Chee signed off on it, so I think they have a chance. But to have a chance. This is the ultimate all for one and one for all. This is the. Togetherness because you have to trust. Your Weakest Link can struggle you write. Your Weakest Link can say. Sick and tired of it I haven't seen my girlfriend or whatever my why? I'm going outside the bubble and you make one false move. You touch one surface that's contaminated and you touch. Your face is over. You're going to be infected and you might not even know you're infected, so you're going to be a symptomatic or is they now? Say Pres symptomatic. I'm sick and tired of all of these terms because we live with them every moment of every day. I'm haunted by the above, but I get it. They're trying to keep you apart in. ping-pong just to to ensure that by the time you get to the court, you have an infected each other socially. I thought we were tested. I thought once we the player. They got tested, so they're going to be the bubble. Okay, you can get tested, and then if night falls, and you slip outside the bubble and get contaminated. You can't get tested on the hour every hour. We're guess what if I slip outside the bubble and guess what I'm will be on the court. Is Gardening. They're trying to make you as safe as possible before you get to the court because the court safe at all. No, you have to trust think. It is, but you have to trust your brothers on the court. I'm talking about your rival. Is You have to trust that everybody? Observe the rules, even though we're a country of rule breakers, and you're all going to go, stir crazy and you rooms at in Disney. Measure this so. Once. Everybody gets there so as far as. Catering and everybody else. Are they going to be allowed to League going co? Yes, unfortunately, but whatever you can only go so far in a bubble. Less. You Cook for yourself a bubble unless you get that, so eh. Asking, the players do that's what these other people that have to do so a. Dining, everybody you gotta got to give up three months. Okay, but what do we do every single morning here at Fox yeah, we get out of Los Angeles we get out of our cars. We walk up a flight and we blocked through, and we get thermometer from a distance right. And they they actually say out loud. You're ninety eight point three ninety seven point. Fifty. Old. Blood I can attest to that. So then what happens, we have? Somebody asked us a series of questions about sore throat shortness. bla-bla-bla as a doctor told you you need to Nope nope. Nope, Nope, okay. You're clear to go through. I don't know what it all proves. The best we right now. Most of the year I'm own tried. You didn't know where you're going to know, but you can't. Kid with these people or you'RE GONNA wind up not being allowed into data Joe. It's like going through security at the airport. No joke. This is no joke, so in the end I have to depend solely on my brother across the table. Because we even know, we're almost to close right now so when you talk I, tell you sit back. When I talk, I can't control my. Sometimes I get to work. I hope my spill doesn't fly across the table. Everybody says it made you. Feel your pain. Which August. His say, we can't get. The thing and they. Take it down, okay, but I have to trust my brother table that he stayed in the bubble last night, his own bobble, and that he played by the rule absolutely and the rules are actually in the end. They're pretty simple. Yes, just stay away from other humans. Stay at least this far apart birth. Not I made. That's not humane, not human nature, but this is what we're up against its up paying and we're engaged to, and it is. We are getting struck again. Right good, so it's real simple. As soon as I leave this desk 'cause I'm touching the desk. I walk over to where my bag is around the corner and I sanitize after every debate topics. Okay I'm ridiculous I gave. My wife is ridiculous in a good way and she taught me. You can't slip up one time, so the rules are simple. You gotTa keep washing up Sam ties and pure Elliott whenever you got to wash your with, and if you're touching services, you can't touch your face well. Those are the rule. Stay six feet apart. Keep washing sanitizing. Don't touch your face because if you touch your face and your contaminated, it's going to go in your nose going your eyes are on your mouth, right? You're going to be sick, right? How sick you're GONNA get. Nobody seems to know right, but you're going to at least be carrying the virus. I'll. How we get from the time I get my truck and go to get my temperature check. They got pure rail station. I get to the elevator. They got another pure real estate should. I get off the elevator. They got pure rail station I. get down the Hallway. They got a pier rail station. Pass the bathroom. They got a pier real estate. Couple of. arpaio. Yeah good, point But. Thank you Fox. They're making it as ultimately safe as possible within. It's up to us to do our part. We have to have teamwork here cools I've always been a leopard I've always had a solitary. I due Bam by my some cool, okay good. Because, you're out, go good bye, say okay, and so when Demar leaves the court of play, he's. He's got to play by the rules so that he doesn't contaminate in the bubble right? Yeah! I'm against is different now because. I Guess Football I. Don't know it'd be hard for me to like if I'm playing against you guys to play I. Really Try to, you know. Like the Super Bowl skip I really trying to do with the other team. They got mad and they got all these like. College College. fraternize more than you I really tried to see you like that. Okay good. Just, for the record guy's the moment, I can get back to the table. I'm coming back. So you have to the side for now, but when we can come within the six feet I must the potato. I'm still here though. No Major League Baseball is back in the season. We'll begin with MLB on Fox returning July twenty fifth with Fox Saturday baseball and we could not be more excited about this great news for baseball fans across the country guys baseball's back, and of course America's home for baseball this summer as always will be Fox and F S One. Cam Newton has earned over one hundred and twenty million during his nine years, in the NFL, not including endorsement money so his one year, one point seven five million deal with the patriots raised a few eyebrows, but cam took the instagram yesterday to explain why he would agree to a minimum deal. He said this is not about money for me. It's about respect so Shannon degree with Kim's point here. I need to find that affect. Take you along do. Look. Cameras right towards certain extent because there are certain things that money can't buy, but knowing if you have. Those people got to respect you. Sometimes, they go hand in hand, but I think in this instant. What cameras talking about? He's like I've survey thirty two teams obviously one. Let me go. There's probably like ten twelve teams that the star is entrenched, no problem whatsoever, but if I kept surveying I looked around I'm better than some of the scarred of the backups on these teams, and they did reach out the lack of respect. They have for me. Cam Newton former. MVP when. They would call and guys out of retirement when they didn't want to sign cap now available. And I can't get a call if it's not about the money, skip if I'm an actor and I've been and I've been agree I won. I won an Oscar, which is the greatest achievement you can win. The Ad Kademi than banking and all the sudden I have a have a bad movie in. Nobody gives me a call and I get this I. Get this role. It's not the role that I wanted that what I'm used to being in, but somebody gives me a chance like the lack of respect is not about the money. It's not about the role. Yes, okay. Yes, I'm a supporting role now. I know what I can do but I see guys is getting these moves. They're not better at what they do. The Nile, so and saying okay. You know what I won't take this role. I won't be give healthy and I'm GONNA show. You and I'm going to get my respect back. I'm going to change the narrative of what you have about Cam Newton because the narrative. Get as you mentioned. Is that the last four years? He hasn't been good. He hasn't been good that twenty fifteen feet for that one big flash of streak in two, thousand, eight, hundred, twenty, eighteen hurt, his shoulder kept trying to play through. Yeah, know realize that you know Cam. They don't care about what it took you to get there. All this one and they see Newton on the back. They expect you to be great. So I. believe cameras upset skipped because he knows that he's better than a lot of these quarterback that has starting jobs and had backup jobs in some of these teams didn't reach out, didn't even call it, and so that's that probably hurt more than anything when you made that kind of money. Yeah okay I got I got to start from the bottom and work my way back up I got no problem with that. cameras may may great great money and. You'll be okay. He just needs to go out there and show that he's still Cam Newton. He just needs an opportunity. That's it. Still, not completely sure he's going to get that new. England we'll find out. But Cam Newton. At an injured shoulder got it fixed. He had an injured foot lists. Frank Surgery got it fixed. You'd think he's been clear, right? Now. He has an injured pride in is wounded up. And you can't surgically get it fixed, right? You can only go back out there. If somebody will give you a chance, right in show them. They were all dead wrong. In. I do disagree with this premise, but but it's coming from a place in his heart. That's hurt right, but his premises. That money can't buy respect. Yeah, but but when people pay you money, they're paying you the respective. There's what you did. Yes, in this world we live in. Your respect is measured. Unfortunately in the end by your salary, it is okay. So Bill Belichick got away with paying him barely one million dollars. It's the bare minimum a veteran of camps ilk. Years he's putting. What does he nine years? That's the bare minimum you could have paid him. It's one point five million right that ranks nine hundred eighth of salaries paid in the NFL that ranks fifty eighth quarterbacks salaries. And it just seems so wrong that this guy was an MVP. This guy dominated the league for a year, and in a stretch in twenty thousand, also in lifted a team in two thousand, fifteen to the super bowl, the fifteen and one record. And this happens we're the league rejected you to the point that Bill Belichick got away with paying you that there are incentives, though even got away with paying incentives that are unlikely to. Right, and they don't count against the CAP, because your stats were so bad last year because you didn't have any threats that he got away with paying you stats that qualify as Unlikely to be earn. Incentives you know why because I can't control those someone else can control those Kip, saying my contract one year, and and I signed the contract because when I signed his Kip I was playing mostly special team. So if I get X. amount of touchdowns, make the pro bowl make all pro, so I've been getting five thousand here. But I led the team in receiving how two thousand and had a thousand yards guilty I'll get a hundred thousand dollars. Okay, now I needed a hundred and twenty, one hundred and twenty six yards in the game playing the raiders now the paper. There's so much. If we win the game, we win division. We get home field. They come to us. We lose the game. They win the division. We gotta go back to them to follow when we were. Need you need one hundred twenty six yards to get get one hundred thousand dollars skip. I got one twenty one in two and a half and don't catch another payers. Seriously what year was this ninety three? And then I go back following, we can drop thirteen, fifty, three, fifty six Oldham in a playoff game, which at the time was the most receiving with most reception in a playoff game in NFL history. Do you! Are you suspecting coach Shannahan new? which might wasn't there the only one they. Came Ninety five. That's right I. Don't know what was suspected. Who is calling the plays? Jim Muscled it. No, I don't know who knew, but I remember telling outlet member. Jon. Call them teeth. They. What's going on tea's like I, say man. I'm disappointed. We lost as a I needed five yard data underground. And he looked. He said that that ever happened. If you need a yard, you need a kid. I just throw you to ball, okay? Did you think about mentioning that? I didn't want to be that guy. I never asked. Get it will just in the opposite was coming out cooking. You go single one hundred, twenty one in the flow, the offense that works okay, so you hit earned the right to get a five yard page. We've up. Seventeen points at the have okay. We ended up moving the game thirty three thirty in overtime. No good. What was the fate of the ninety three team? Then we we go. We go back to the rate of the following week. WE LOSE IN A playoff game, but I hear them up with thirteen fifty six Novato. They could. Do. No no no call any names. Ed or Eddie Anderson the safety. He was He went to Fort Valley. They won't team my route. My Freshman Year He. Greg Lowered They call. The divas blew death 'cause they would not knocking pokes out, but I'll cook it up. I'll cook okay I'm GonNa sum this up on campus I g post he put. He posted four hashtags. All I know is work. Give you that one I'm betting it all on me. Gabu, shine through the shade way to go. I'm not buying the last one not for like just for life. I believe Cam likes to be loved, do, but who doesn't yeah, but he has huge personality Hewish career. That's why he's on social media well. Don't tell me it's not for likes. This whole thing is for your life is for like you want to be lost. You earn the rise to be loved twenty fifteen in some in two thousand eight, and now he has to go somewhere else, and he has to get that fan base to embrace them difficult I spent ten years in Denver, the fans one super bowl than with great now I gotTa go to Baltimore and now. Those don't really know. They saw what I did over there. You do that for us will help us win game. You help us get to the Super Bowl. So now. He has to step in starting all over again. It's like getting out a relationship. What what worked in that last relationship might not work in this one. So you gotta start all over a holding. No Dodo skip. nope. Yeah, another good way to get out the door. Kobe robot there. You have to hold the door their own idea. Me, I hold the door. Joe Me no I went to pure L. Johnson. Calling it roll. Roll. nicknaming. I can't. Lift every voice and sing a song, also known as the black national anthem will be played prior to star spangled banner before every week. One NFL game Shannon. Oh's your reaction when you heard this. Skip out on to. Come off his being ungrateful. But for me. There's another symbolic gesture and I've asked okay playing this. How much closer does this get us to economic equality? How much closer does this gets a INDIE SYSTEMIC AND INSTITUTIONAL RACISM? What is this going to do about? The hiring practices or minorities in the NFL does playing this get of closer to that. At some point time. But the thing is I'm what I'm seeing a lot of a lot of a lot of institutions. Is that what you're doing is? You put in the water, but they nobody wants to drive. Because of all the things that transpired enjoyed with tragically lost his life with six over six weeks ago. Skill really the only state. There's really done anything Colorado. They've done away with qualified immunity. That's the only one everybody will keep talking about all we will change. We won't change what warning. It is one thing. What are you? GonNa do up to bring about that chain NFL. Thank y'all okay get is another Greece symbolic gesture. The NFL is all we do all the Komo. Enough of these just for me. Skipped don't pat on the back and not and not give providing services for me. That shows me. That truly shows me that you care about. Meet Yep. How long are they GONNA go? Okay, you'll plays before every week. We WanNA game in Blackley. We'll look around and they're going to be. Oh my God. They played it. It would. Heal my situation around me. I'm still impoverished still as feel. Leave, laws that are enacted still doesn't help me. So so, what have you done? Komo look. I'm I'm not I'm not a I'm not really big into symbolic gestures without a cause without something deeper. Snatch down the statues, but not before you give me economic equality. The monuments and take away words and names buildings but let's get rid of this economic this realistically this injustice that we see. Our hope skill look. If you've ever cared for a child. If women know what I'm talking about, skip, there's a difference between the child being hungry and a child being needed to be satisfied with a pacifier. Stop giving us these pacify with hungry. Feed us. Don't pacifies anymore. Well said. So, when I first saw this headline, my first thought was about you and I wondered if you would have the reaction, you just gave me about this. And I realize the national football. League is in a tricky spot here because. Do we do we do enough or do? We look like we're doing too much. Everybody has. Stopped doing things without asking for. which is that as we head has been? We had this big argument with Terry crews. Ted Cruz been kicked flex because he says we gotta make sure the black lives matter doesn't morph into black lives. Better came. We get the black lives equal before we step fresh all the talk about black lives better. Can we do something meaningful before we start planning the black national anthem? Nobody asked you to play. What if the NFL did nothing? How would you feel we're doing now? We had to Rudy Room. They had to go back at anthem or paragraphs and more language, the Rooney rule. But if I'm talking about on week, one if there were no symbolic gestures, if it just came and went, would you be offended by that? Because I hope that they don't think because people are not in the street like they were the first month that this is going away is not going away. SKIP is not. Beget People's people. Filing skilled people are starting to see man I can see. Progress can be made it so now we. Hold people accountable. Man. So I thought a lot about this last night because it hit me in my head and then all the way down to my heart. that. The black community has needed its own national anthem. That's all you need to know. That's how sad that is. The gravity of that hit me right between the eyes last night. I've known about lift every voice. It's always been an. It was a originally. That was put to music by two brothers. Is Beautiful if I. I would encourage everyone black white color. No refill lyric. Call it up on. Google for the lyrics of the song and just read especially the middle verse is stunning to me right. But. If, we're going to play the black national anthem. Then the national anthem backed back before the game. It almost feels like Toronto's playing. Golden State in the NBA finals. We gotta play the Canadian and. And it's like there's something wrong with this picture right because. Silly me idealistic me I grew up thinking one nation under God indivisible well. Over and you grow up looking at it completely upside down. Okay so I have been enlightened and I have seen and felt and from my perspective. As much as I would love for us to have one anthem that we all could believe in you. You have needed for years. Your anthem made. They'll come a time when you don't, but the important point is it? Do we need this symbolic gesture to go onto? We need to play your national anthem every game all year. We used to keep the conversation going to keep the focus on what really met. Obviously what matters the most is what I have campaigned against for like fifteen years. It is unarmed, black men and women getting killed by white, running murdered by white cops. That's the first. Thing that needs to be attacked first, and then after that were already to a point of enlightenment to racial sensitivity where we are tacking all of the vestiges that got grandfathered in of slavery statues symbols. Take them down. Take them down. We talk about George Preston. Marshall Net nickname Redskins, will they? They took a statue down outside RFK. Take them down right. So this is all progress, but it's just baby steps toward the ultimate goal, so I sympathize with the national football league. Trying to think what what okay. How do we do this well to me I? WanNa, see kneeling and I. I wouldn't mind hearing the black national anthem every game all year I. Don't know how you feel about that. That's my two cents from this side of the table, but we need to keep the conversation going. We cannot so to speak. Let it fade to black because it can't fade to black. All this will be lost all this moment in time with the doors and and minds open will be lost so I I would advocate hearing this song before every game ahead of our quote, unquote national anthem just to keep it top of mind. We just went through. That's just my. By little. Lead to bring about change. Got It I got it, but you know and I know focus will bring about change this conversation. Strong conversation will bring about change in Bali, is not symbolic gestures, but we do know that Minnesota's saying no more chokehold. Okay, that's a small start, right? Out Loud. But. If the politics in because that's what because you have to the Supreme Court said. We have to look at the police officers not as we sit here today. What was he thinking at the moment? Skip by US. The CHOKO. Skip impair for my life. His, that's what he failed. How do we question what he feels like given moment so therefore, he's allowed to use the comb booby. Did. It looked like he was in fear of his with a hand in his pocket. Exactly so doing away with qualified immunity. Skip I'm listening to some of the police. Do you know you have to give the police officer if he's accused of. The murder! You have to give him forty eight hours. Now if I kill somebody, they know. Why did you give me? Let me formulate what I'm. GonNa do and then you gotta turn over all your information. What the charges against him really? The only way to get it done the break the Union. Yeah, you gotTA break the unions. They gotta they gotTA. Better Warriors get. US In. A bigger typically and really literally. Skipped because they're so powerful. That nobody wants to take him on. Okay but doors have been cracked open and you gotta run through them. Yeah, right, but that's the thing script. Skip just just a crack Yup. Swing swing ride open. It Ain't good enough for one or two because see that's what it is giving. Crack the door open and said you got. You Got Michael Jordan. You Got Lebron. You got a few now. We try to get this open up and get a lot of. Much has been made about Zion Williamson's playing weight over the past year, but the Palestinians just posted photo of Zion, which looks like he spent his entire quarantine in the weight room, and he looks more than ready to resume the NBA season this and I love Zion. Wear that mask all right Shannon. How rest where you? Look! I'm talking to see some good and I'm not talking one. He got from falling off his bike when he was a child I see some definition and eat look better and Brandi yeah. Go, see you. Can't with you I can't with, but I'm happy to see that skipping. It looks to me because remember. Diane missed a lot of training camp. Way missed because he got hurt in their thinking the Somaly in he had the surgery, and so he was rehabbing. rehabbing is not the same as training I. Think him being healthy this break. He got an opportunity to train or train. And you see what it's done to his body. That is the only thing really that can slows I on Williamson down. The inability to control his weight and have to deal with ticky tack. Nagging injuries have said it from day on this guy right here. Look phenomenal. That guy can last. Yes, the first guy that we saw is going to have a hard time, yes. Somebody has gotten to him and explain to him that what that you are what you put in your mouth? Yet I. Yes, he apparently is eating correctly. And as you know through the quarantine, you can go either way because sometimes you get stuck and you just say your little little depressed, you know. But somebody went to the right way that I winner right, you went the right way. Lebron with the Right Way Zion really went the right way that will work. I'm going to remind you got off to a pretty good start nineteen games. He's twenty four and seven rebounds. And his fifty nine percent shooting for players who've taken fifteen or more shots a game that leads the NBA that is working and all of a sudden. That team is starting to work because my man. Lonzo ball the last five games. It seems like five years ago, but over the last five games, the twenty, one eight and eight, he was making fifty one percents of his threes over those last five games. You still have you got drew holiday. You look down the roster and you've got Lonzo and Josh hard. Obviously the guards in listen. This team is loaded with young talent. Okay, but do you believe they can catch Memphis because them I think Sacramento and Portland all three and a half back with only eight games to play three and a half back. I would love for them to for entertainment values much as I like John by the way to Jaaz credit. Yeah, he took the quarantine and went the other way in a good way. He beefed up I. Mean you put some muscle right? He looks like a professional basketball player instead of a skinny college kid way to go. John Mirant he needed to lean out. John Needed to put a little bit of of definition. On this is your job now. I mean you eating in being all cool. You don't eating in the dormitory. This is a profession and this is make hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars doing this, so it's best I mean. Look at the top guys. Look at all of these guys from James Harden Lebron guys have shifts, and so as you come in you like. Hey, I want to play an extended period of time I want to maximize. Maximize my opportunity and I will get me. I will have the one prepared by me. I'm not saying you gotta eat. Every single meal may Shep sure enjoyed. But I'm saying for the most part the lion's share you should be nothing. Bore your body so that nineteen year old. He's still nine ninety four days from twenty, but at age nine nineteen, he was selected one of the three NBA two K. Twenty one covers the one for next Gen. A lot and nobody took Lebron like twelve years to get on the cover. Kobe, I think Kobe's in Dame Lillard. Does a huge accomplishment Katie. Live up, yes, he. I, mean he? He's on the right. I love this I. Love it because. You're away from everybody quarantine like you said he could went. The other way can ooh, and then all of a sudden. He comes out and he's looking like that he'll get value on. Love to see him in the eighth seed who? You are they going to get it? Yes, or no, well, it's the odds are way against them an eight-game. GOING GONNA have to go eight now and hope for some help, right? They're gonNA have to have at least six into. Mental I think boy I. Think you need to go I think you need to win them all when you're three and a half back with. Kobe covers Memphis three games. Is basically so you gotta go be fixing to to in Memphis. Go three three five, just regardless seeing him look that ready and prepared. I don't know direction. I went the other way but I'm motivated now to get back to the gym and work out, and I even set up like skin. Shannon I'm not that lucky around here. Hausky believe Jack Vaughn is going to be the head coach. The Brooklyn Nets next season while the nets are expected to conduct a full coaching search. WHOA, just taking against the field so shannon. Are you surprised by this I'm really not skip. I think the thing is that since he's taking for Kenny Atkinson. There's only been two games. They won both of those games. They beat the Lakers win the lake of really streaking and what he did that. He took Andre Jordan. Who was? Was On the bench, who they Vega friend of K. D. and Kerry batstone only reason that he's there. He inserted him into the starting lineup, but it's hard for me to believe that in a scenario like this, you wouldn't run this by K., D. and carry since they are your franchise superstar player, so if John Bond gets that job. He had received the blessing of those two guys that have played todd loop, and so that's why I thought I. Root Toddler would be. To unless Kyrie was not all in on Liu. So for that situation happens give. Katie and Kyrie signed up on the if he gets this job if he gets it and you want to talk about a plum job. Would they not be possibly the favorites in your? Car. They wouldn't be the favourite when those guys healthy nick coming into twenty one. Absolutely, they're going to be the favorite of the. So, I liked Jackpot. Fine Man, but he had three years in Orlando to prove himself and I know. The team wasn't very good at us, Fifty, eight and one fifty eight. But. He did coach under coach pop in San. Antonio Sean marks the nets GM. Played for coach pop and then came up through the Spurs Front Office and was the assistant to our C beaufort. San Antonio Connection and rapport between Jock von and Sean Mark Bright but tell me Sean marks that you didn't get the two superstars to sign off on this. Because a lot of other people want this job I think Jeff Van Gundy would be interest Mark Jackson, interest Jason how. They Jeff Jeff Van Gundy just wants to date because his name always comes up and he tried to get married against I. Think he wants to date, but just beat marrying up you. Know, there's no question about is. This job is very good, but the question is the thing. Is that pop had his favorite that he had Tim Duncan and David Robertson to buy into him early. GUYS BONA FIDE superstars. Okay to me. 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BREXIT supporters appear to who have gained a major victory and UK elections Thursday Prime Minister Boris Johnson and his Conservative Party why large majorities according to exit polling paving the way before Britain's exit from the European Union next year supporters of remaining in the EU had dreamed of a second referendum on the decision which took place in June two two thousand sixteen since then UK lawmakers have consistently failed to come to an agreement on how to withdrawal from the EU. The victory is also seen seen as a major turn of events for Languishing Johnson. who was often compared to president? Donald trump starting today immigration courts in New England can no longer detain ain't undocumented immigrants in bond hearings without the government providing proof that they need to be detained. Laura Ross Brow talent has more you. In Massachusetts and New Hampshire filed a lawsuit in June on behalf of three people jailed after their detention hearings but at Boston federal judge has ruled. It's unconstitutional to make an immigrant. Proof that the danger here to the community. The burden of proof is on the government accusing them that Seagal legal director of the ACLU of Massachusetts explains the importance of this ruling hundreds hundreds and over time potentially thousands of people will have a better chance. You're listening the heartland newsfeed radio network broadcasting live twenty percent of newspeak. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by you follow us on facebook twitter and instagram. The Public News Service Daily Newscast for Friday December thirteenth. Two Thousand Nineteen. I'm Eric Teigen off brexit supporters. I appear to have gained a major victory and UK elections Thursday Prime Minister Boris Johnson and his Conservative Party y large majorities according to exit polling paving the way for Britain's from the European Union next year supporters of remaining in the EU had dreamed of a second referendum on the decision which took place in June two thousand sixteen since then UK lawmakers have consistently failed to come to an agreement on how to withdrawal from the EU. The victory is is also seen as a major turn of events for Languishing Johnson. who was often compared to president? Donald trump starting today immigration courts in New England can no longer detain undocumented immigrants in bond hearings without the government providing proof that they need to be detained. Laura tell them has more. These in Massachusetts and New Hampshire filed a lawsuit in June on behalf of three people jailed after their detention hearings but at Boston federal judge has ruled. It's unconstitutional to make an immigrant. Proof that they aren't danger to the community. The burden of proof is on the government accusing them and that Seagal legal director of the ACLU Massachusetts explains the importance of this ruling hundreds and overtime potentially thousands of people will have a better chance to be free to be reunited with their families away from communities. Wow they immigration cases. This is the first class action ruling of its kind about civil immigration bond hearings in the United States. The Federal Federal Decision also requires that New England immigration judges consider an individual's ability to pay. Hey if a bond amount is set higher than fifteen hundred dollars the trump administration gratien took the final step to allow oil and gas drilling on more than one million acres of federal public land in California's Central Coast and San Joaquin Valley on Thursday despite a flood of public comment opposition. The Bureau of land management will now allow for new lease sales in twenty twenty on land that stretches across Fresno Kern earn kings. Madera San Luis Obispo Santa Barbara to Larry and Ventura Counties Rebecca August with the nonprofit Los Padres Forest Watch caused fracking in a very toxic process tracking certainly causes impacts to local water supplies. Few Air Quality. There's a lot of associated chuck traffic. They're toxic chemicals that are known to cause cancer that can be forced through mortar suppliers. August also complaints that fracking wastewater creates hey disposal issue and notes that drill sites emit methane a potent greenhouse gas linked to climate change the alums environmental impact study declared that fracking racking will pose no significant impact to wildlife water public health or the environment. I'm Suzanne Potter. This is P and s with a new decade just around the corner farmers across the Midwest Hope Mother Nature and economic conditions will bring relief by the spring of Twenty twenty. The the American Farm Bureau says South Dakota reported thirteen farm bankruptcies in a twelve month period ending in September compared with two in the previous twelve month period. Angel Casper per with a nonprofit united for South Dakota notes at ninety. Eight percent of the state's farms are family owned. She says when weather extremes kept many from planning crops this year some gave up rather than wait for another season. South Dakota the here especially with the weather has three point. Eight six million unplanted acres of land with look is more than any other state and some farms didn't get crops skin at all. In addition to weather problems Casper says the rise in bankruptcies can be traced a low commodity prices and the the trade wars including the tariffs on China neighboring states also reported increases in foreign bankruptcy Nebraska had thirty seven Minnesota Thirty One and Iowa reported twenty four. The Farm Bureau says overall there were twenty four percent more farm bankruptcies this year than last that was Roz Brown reporting when prison technology. Did you company Global Tech Link or GTL announced in October that it was providing hundreds of free electron tablets for West Virginia prisons. It sounded like a compassionate gesture Mr but the program comes with a hitch. People who use it have to pay three cents per minute to read e books on the tablets. That's even though the Reading Material Comes from Project Gutenberg a free online source according to Lydia Welker with the Appalachian Prison Book Project or AP BP hermit usage fees. 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Three hundred forty-seven day of Twenty nineteen eighteen days left until we're into two twenty twenty serpents Drake Sadat from Plymouth England on his round the world voyage on this date in picking seventy seven at the battle of Fredericksburg on this date in eighteen sixty two to confederate general Robert e Lee defeated the Union mood Major General Ambrose e Burnside The New York Premiere of George Gershwin's an American American in Paris took place on this date in one thousand nine twenty eight in Carnegie Hall Walter Damerow Conducted The New York Philharmonic Hungary and Romania declared war on the US us on this date in one thousand nine hundred forty one. The Knesset voted to move the capital of Israel to Jerusalem in nineteen forty. Nine man walked on the moon. The last time on this date in nineteen seventy nine with the final moonwalk of Apollo Seventeen. Eugene Cernan had these words across Girka take their gloves got gone back home for the cop but we believe not belong to the future. I like to what I believe. We will no record stuff. Solid got a man of the ball. NOPE WE REALLY WANNA touring we leave. It became God. It really does refer all my anti in Eugene Cernan on the moon on this date in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine. A government aircraft DC three crash near Evansville regional airport on this date in nineteen seventy seven killing twenty nine including the University of Evansville basketball team the first Susan. B Anthony Dollar entered circulation collation on this date in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight confusing people worldwide. Yes we need a dollar coin but no you don't make it the exact same name sizes quarter vice president. Al Gore delivered his concession speech on this date in two thousand ending his hopes of becoming president and former Iraqi President Saddam. Ah Hussein captured on this date in two thousand three near his hometown of to Crete former Chilean dictator General Augusto. Pinochet put under house arrest. After being sued under accusations over nine kidnapping actions manslaughter. The house arrest is lifted the same day on appeal passing away on this date in history painter grandma Moses and from girl growing pains Alan Thicke. This is the birthday of First Lady Mary. Todd Lincoln soldier and Medal of Lana Recipient Alvin York journalist Drew Pearson actor Van Heflin so vaster ritter better known as junkyard. Dog All born on this date. Happy Ninety Fourth Birthday to Dick Van Dyke Ted nugent gun right's activist and Rockstar cat. Scratch fever from just shoot me. Wendy Malick is sixty nine. Today John Anderson Sixty five. I'm just an old chunk of coal but I'm GonNa be a diamond someday. That John on Anderson the country singer actress. Who she is? Sixty two Morris Day of Morris Day and the time is sixty two actor Jamie boxes fifty to carry very brady from days of our lives Christy Clark Forty six today. I wonder what's going to happen with days of our lives. Do you think that. NBC's really going to kill it. From Evanescence Amy. Leave thirty eight and Taylor swift and Taylor swift thirty years old today. Though some of the people blue celebrate the thirteenth day of December is their birthday and at this happens to be your birthday hi four freshmen. And we just want to say we head back to the funny papers. Seventy two years ago December thirteenth nineteen forty seven the adventures of Archie. She Andrew Starring Bob Hastings Archie. I'm Wyatt Cocks. 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The Andrew is home and at the moment we find Mr Andrews alone in the living room sitting in his favorite every armchair reading the newspaper in France calling. It was everything mentally as he exits investigate to it. He replied to manage gets you every time that he gets to lighten the train or bus close to receive up. Yes there Mary I'm reading ESPN. I'll answer it hello Yes Oh yes. He's he's all that you want to talk to him. No alcohol it. You'll you don't track of course you're what is it the clock but I just saw fit four o'clock instead of Christmas shopping. That's all I. I'll tell him downtown. Gone shopping for him by changing the GEICO. The guard telling I george good thing running a call. I forgot all about this shopping and I still don't have anything for Mary Archie. I better get my hat and gets out of the stacy's right now. This is the last chance I'll find. Yes dear it here I hear it right here all right and we'll have a chance. Oh Good Grief Jug head. Perfect Affect Jersey. Joe Walcott no jug head and I don't WanNa fight with you either. Hurry ejected. What are you doing in Ohio? I came over to see what you're doing. Well I was Lucky Veronica. Just call it what she did she did. She never heard the phone rang. And Salvage Sir Archie. That you can't hear what Veronica Saturnine Your Dad quiet okay. I don't think she said Oh. Yeah he said to your appointment today from three o'clock to four o'clock from three to four years an hour hour later he was. I wonder why she had some things to do. And I'd blowing off the. Yeah Okay Dad she was. That's great breath well. Now the Veronica's made our our later. I have time to get my Christmas shopping done but I just practically the last chance. I'll have a good thing I thought of it. I haven't got a thing for anyone. Yes yes including mate including you ATI. It's time he did you Christmas shopping. That's right y'all come on. We'll go right down the stakes are what are you gonna the yard. You'll just I call. I think that's funny say Hello Hello dear how are you all yes do. I think he's upstairs. Rt Not Funny. He must have gone on to. I wish people tell me when they're going out and Hello Betty. Archie doesn't seem to be home dear no and Betty. I hate to cut you short but I have to run now. I'm just leaving do my Christmas shopping. Glad you mentioned that Akers. I haven't got shopping or you have. Would you like to go with me all right. I'll pick up right away and we'll go down to stacy's I don't so I can't ever stores such crowd. Yes your head but when we got in that elevator and everyone started pushing. Did you have to push back. Listen in that crowd even so hi. Dean would've pushed back. Well never mind. We're here now in the first thing. I want to buy compact for Veronica and wonder where the cosmetic department is Cosmic Department. Yeah ask the toy department. I Jog I told you will go up to the toy department later. Now come on. I left that Walker where the cosmetics department as he was. Okay oh Mr Yes yes. Could you tell me where the cosmetic department is pleased. Yes converse seven. Thank you Mancha counter seven with that Oh mr gifts where is counter seven on the north side account her six. Oh thank you. I'll just Mr well now. which way is not? Oh my land sunny. You see the boy's clothing department Martin right there. We'll go right down on that album. The dummies and turn right. Okay Mr thanks a lot. You're welcome yes madam. Can I help you Eddie George right down at the next. I'll joke Mike. Okay boy. He's your not a very friendly walker. Maybe his wife beats them it. I wouldn't be surprised. I what was that you bumped into that dummy. She was not the hat off for a minute. I thought that was a real person. Wait a second until I put the the head back on that floor Walker ever saw me fooling around this dummy. He'd probably throw out of the store or something matter Veronica Moronic and I don't want her to see me here. He's coming right to it. I'm going to be a dummy I'M GONNA climb up on this with the rest of these dummies and I'll wear this hat. I I archie on. How do I look the most natural? If you're looking dummy I ever saw dopey twenty. Yuck and put that price tag on me. Quick Okay here have now remember. Don't give me a way no matter what happens after K. G. O.. Do just a little shopping I I am too thank goodness I have done. That's good only thing. I still have to get it. The gift for Archie watching. I don't know what to get him in such a problem. Yeah he sure is. I can't get him because he's not the intelligent time the government. Because he's not much of an athlete. CAD get him a tire anything because cookie just doesn't know anything about style. Insert Archie is an awful dumbing it again with ties and seeing what they are. There isn't very much he can get for a dollar or did you say something. The thing jacket me not a word word. Oh well I gotta go get the most shopping done. But you'd like to come along so I know Veronica right can't and Meeting someone here in a minute. Oh well I'm going along and find out Jacky Barbecue. Okay dummy you can relax now. Fine fine thing check. It helped me down platform. I generally mile walk coming up. There's etem current anytime. Never have I seen such a rush. Never an all land takes who put that dummy here. Oh boy more. If that isn't the silliest looking dummy I've ever seen I don't know apply that stockroom can't stand at least half alive. I have never seen one is such an insipid expression and such a ridiculous posture. Ah Mr Yes. I'm I'm not really a dummy that makes absolutely no difference still shouldn't uh-huh oh good. Heavens you're alive. Hct Pity's sake young man come down off their yester- well how you doing on that platform looking like a dummy. Well that's a long story so you see I was on. I haven't young man. You do me a favor yester- as soon as you paid for that Jack. Leave the store soon as you have finished buying that jacket this jacket. That jacket with a price tag on it you're buying aren't you. What this is my jacket your jacket? You have to sail Smith. No Mike Boorda here last year so removed the price tag yet removed the Mr. You don't understand understand perfectly. The price is fourteen ninety five and I wanted right now but Mitt Mile. I said but you don't understand this at my on jacket no fully tell them this is my second. Okay young men. Are you calling me. Names Notre I. I was talking to my friend. What brand well? That's just it. He was here a minute ago. I bet he went up to the toy department. Mr If you come up to the toy department we can find my friend and he'll tell you not going after the Department or anywhere else until I have the fourteen dollars and ninety five cents that jacket. But that's all the money I have. I you wait a minute I know Mr if I paid you for this Jack You give me a sales slip and then I could take it over to the Exchange Change Department and get my money back not your well in that case. It's all night I haven't anything to worry about. Here's the money thank you. And here's your your sales left. Thank you there are quite welcome. Good they fool him. Yes sir good thing I think for a minute. There looks like I wouldn't have any money but now all I have to do is take this coat and and go to the exchange tolerant. Give them this jacket and then I she went if I do. I have any jacket-clad all boy. How do I get into these things Well let's see first thing I do is get that barbecue over. Marry his counter right here. Let's see now. What should I get a well sitting have gotten assortment chase me twenty five dollars hide-and-seek Cassique then two dollars wallflower no more forty dollars and never smell anything worth that kind the money? Oh here's another one evening in Riverdale dollars. Well that's a little better. I think Mary likes perking. That's just without getting all miss. I'll take this body weight mystery. Well ahead hello. What are you doing here? I'm looking for. I thought you were with that. She by I was thinking I've tried to get one of these girls away here but they're also busy. I don't like about Mary flight overnight. Good grief if she sees me with this. You know what I'm getting for Christmas. He's he's coming swankiest. I know I've seen Donald Duck the bottle in my pocket there right in this pocket and now she sees me please. Yeah I saw. That sounds fun. Oh Oh oh listen. You don't understand don't go you did you did you. Not just about Perkin in your pocket. Well yes but have you paid the low but well. I don't know what you call it shoplifter. Yes of course it's shoplifting. Oh now wait a minute Mr can explain. Explain the entire thing. I'm listening. 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The thirteenth listening to an episode Christmas episode of Archie Andrews Andrus as was originally broadcast on Saturday the thirteenth today of December nineteen forty seven in the newspapers of that Saturday. Seventy two years ago these who some of the headlines from London a savage rushing attack against the US Britain and France last night reduce big bull relations since the lowest point since the war and threatened an almost immediate break-up of the Monday session of the Foreign Ministers Conference the most acrimonious foreign ministers meeting ever held old ended abruptly officials said when British Foreign Secretary Bevan termed so we get foreign minister molotovs attack on allied policies in Germany insults and abuse. US Secretary State Marshall declared the attack made it difficult to inspire respect for the dignity of the Soviet Union conference sources Molotov tosses assists conciliatory attitude of the past few days out the window of sedate Lanchester House and launched an hour long attack. You accused the western powers of making enormous profits properties out of Germany through hidden reparations. He also declared that the. US Britain and France will tried to perpetuate the division of Germany as part of a strategic plan to employ their occupation zones against what he described as the democratic countries of Europe from Washington president. Truman wants Congress to underwrite Western in Europe covering program for at least four years. That word coming from former a Republican presidential candidate Alf Landon in talking with the the White House. The view in direct conflict with the stand taken by senator tap the Republican of Ohio and several other Republican leaders want any long-term help by the US to be granted on on a year to year basis. The former Kansas Governor Landon told reporters to two-minute authorized him to relate to the president president's wishes for a four year guarantee of a Europe expressing agreement with the president. And instead I told them these people in Europe are sticking out there next at their very lives are at stake from Warsaw a one time German. SS Elite Guard. Pilots sticking to a story that he flew Adolf Hitler and his Mr Abrahams brought to Denmark. Just before the Berlin was reported last night to said others were on the flight. The newspaper said Captain. Peter Brom Garth had elaborated upon earlier accounts in the statement the Polish authorities in Moscow forecasters prison where he's waiting to go on trial for war crimes charges and more saw next we. The paper reported Mom Guard said the sister of Apron a German general named Rama and his wife and one other eight of Hitler were aboard. The Plane Guard said the plane landed in a field in Denmark forty miles from the Eider river which runs through northern Germany just below the Danish horror Hitler's Party then boarded the submarine and the three planes flew back to Berlin from Washington. John Lewis Marks to six hundred thousand united mine workers out of the AFL for the second time yesterday. Day in a bitter row stemming from his refusal to sign a noncommunist affidavit Lewis noted. AFL President William Green Split with this roughly scrawled note green. Afl We disaffiliation twelve forty seven. He had assailed. AFL leaders as intellectually fat and stately asses because they decided to comply with the taft. Hartley Act requiring union officers to swear they are not communist from Albany. New York Henry Wallace said last last night he was only indulging in a game make believe when he said he would vote for Republican. Senator Robert Eight tapped over President Truman. If the election were limited to those two sides elaborating on his staff statement. The former Democratic vice president declared that governor Thomas e Dewey was trying to back into the White House and he predicted the people would have a choice between progress Chris and reaction in the presidential election next fall he continued to avoid definite declaration on whether a third party would be formed for the nineteen forty forty eight presidential race dateline too late California highway. patrolman still don't know how he lived through it but they had him alive in the county jail for proof growth twenty five year old. Jose Velasquez was speeding along the highway. When his car left the road it let seven feet into the air? According to a sober witness and INSTRUC- power pole at that. The car and Paul Byrne Blazquez was uninjured but he was arrested for drunk driving. Though some of the day's top news stories as reported in the newspapers of Saturday December thirteenth nineteen forty seven on your radio radio the adventures of Archie Andrews which continues now on Classic Radio Theatre. Hello what are you doing here. I'm looking for. I thought you were with that. She by what they are trying to get. These salesgirls away here but they're also busy. I waste misunders. Mary Fly Oh good grief if she sees me this huge. You'll know what I'm getting for Christmas. He he's coming this way. I know I see. Just duck the bottle in my pocket there right right in this pocket now she sees me please. Yeah I saw that. Oh Oh oh. Let's see you don't understand. He's out don't go you did you did you. Not just about a perk in your pocket. Well yes but have you paid for low but well. I don't know what you call it but we call it shoplifting of course shoplifting. Oh now wait a minute Mr. I can explain explain the entire the thing I'm listening. Well you see I've been trying to get one of the girls to wait on me and now I just saw my wife over there and I hit the bottle because I want her. Yeah no but I'm getting a for Christmas. Just where is your wife. Well she was right over a good heavens. He's gone I thought so but he was right. There had had tell them and how we saw when I why didn't he goes to young head. He was standing right here just a second ago. I don't know her. Do you imagine these things very often mentioned. You have delusion guys bell who died before your eyes keep calm keep calm donate to getting at it have you back. And we'll forget the whole thing and you can go ride home and lie down down but who watch the film please. Yes Sir I have a drag my By something wrong ask leaked widely perfume bottle. It leaked all all over my pocket. AIDS have empty. Oh firm land fake. Now you'll have to pay for US X.. Right I was going to pick up the whole incident but I can't return a damage. McDonald's and the counter. I'm certainly not going to pay a leaky perk. YOU'LL MR if you're not satisfied with the item you can take it to exchange department but I must be paid I. I'm up you'll win. I'll go to the change department. How I get into these things? I'll never know Sunday at the Department Mount Store December Thirteenth Nineteen Forty Seven Archie Andrews from comic strips. Thanks for tuning in on this Friday the thirteenth edition of Classic Radio Theater. On your favorite station it is a horrible scenario but it happens. Dennis writes about his wife. She was diagnosed with leukemia. In fact she's a two-time who time survivor and in the midst of all that they ran up over a million dollars in medical bills thankfully there medishare members and Dennis says is there so thankful for that how others came together to meet their needs. And that's how so many medicine members feel. 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Take Back America go to our American rights dot com brought to you by the American Media Council. And you're listening to Classic Radio Theater on your favorite station Archie Andrews. The Adventures of Archie Andrews was the Saturday morning program running at ten thirty eastern time. It didn't have much competition in that time slot. It looks like the the the the kid shows or almost all on NBC. At that time so there you go the conclusion now of Archie Andrews and Ed the Christmas shopping episode as it was originally broadcast on Saturday December thirteenth. Nineteen forty seven seventy two years ago. Today the back view like this betty the dark blue and I think I do too blue. That had he's favorite color but is it her. This is Mr Van Room and there's only one way to tell Betty I'll have to try it on. Try It on. I would say size of Aunt Hattie does. And if it's me here. Oh my coat. Okay I stepped onto the stretching. Room and Beth throwback ZANDER's just secondary. I'd hate to a couple of buying this Downing Patty and not have but fit to return for since she lives out. Oh dear. What isn't hangar in here for my hand it to me Mrs Andrews on hold it all right here you are thank you? I'll have the robot in just a minute petty. Well it looks a little bag to me. Well I gotta take a look in this mirror better. You don't have to hold my coat and put them on that empty wreck far. ZANDER's Alex yes. It is a little big. I have to ask the sales girl. She has a smaller size. You eight here betty. Oh what miss what are you doing here what can Karachi rt here. I think so. We can't get a separate. Oh where'd where did you see him. Laugh on a dummy. Why is he the dumb kind? It looks like this you talking about. Oh Okay we'll get the other one now. What are you trying to tell only about archie? Betty it's an awful long store wind. Have you seen him. No I haven't but then I keep looking. He made me in trouble. What kind kind of trouble? I can't tell you now. By the way John Oh golly that's yoga had he's a stranger his bathroom. Oh that's fine zander's but I guess is much better. Does I. What happened to what what happened to? What the rank you put my drift we guy? I don't know if he was here a minute ago. That nothing wrong yes I love my address. Beg Your Pardon we put it down here for a minute while I tried on this bathrobe and now it's on Admiral. Oh my land. I have never seen such a living down. These men hiding from their wives and now this woman luther the draft and I it was right under my nose I could hope so. Madam what can I do about dressed ask madam become com are probably taken by mistake. And they'll be turned into the lost and found department at the other end of the floor next to the exchange. Department Daddy Madam. Where are you going? But Madame certainly not in our bathrobe that may not come on. Daddy things I have my aggress never know Yes Judd now. Can I tell you who I meant. Yes John Ah I Iran. And what are you doing here. She was dad. Where'd you come from where I came from Achi? What are you doing standing here in your shirt sleeves sleeves? Well Dan. I can explain you see him doing here. Very what are you doing in your bedroom. Not My back Fred. Andrew Hugh smells you. Positively Rica perfumes. Oh I do well. He Beer Veronica Miaki. Would he mariah probably hear all of the floor Walker Mr. I'm I'm trying to find out. Why am I understanding here and his shirt sleeves? And if there's no need to get I wanNA know why you smell a perfume lady and what are you doing in that exchange. Take my own colleague William. Yeah okay. That's better now. Listen to me. All of this. Does Center has gone far enough to impact and strange. Yes dear yes that certainly has but after noon you people have made my life quite miserable miserable. Now there's any reason for it. I feel I'm entitled to an explanation. Well Mr the coat the one you thought I was buying. Yes well my mother and father and Chuck and Brana can identify it as my old Coal Co. Sets Archie humane really is. Yes and maybe you'll recall cute. Didn't believe my wife was into star. When I heard the probe you'll live in my pocket? Well yes well this is my wife. How do you you do? I just found out the two of your amendments and empty rack. I was talking to your cat hair. Didn't they. They did. And that was Iraq. That had my dress code. Got It well this before Walker. What do you say to that? Oh no Tampa. Oh Tampa snowplows. The customer's always jail Stacey. We'll make amends. Make mistakes will happen. You know young man that does seem to be your your own code. You may keep it now give you a cash credit for what you paid me and you sir be glad to give you another bottle of perfume. Compliments of the star and Madame. I'm sure we can find your dress and compound department and you'll make it that bathrobe at no charge thank you. I'm Kim Judge Shut up. 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It's Aria and the Reverend Captain Kick Ass and Libertarians disagree. A lot on whether or not voting is acceptable. They do and it also varies depending on the type and style of voting. And by that I mean are you voting for say a president versus you know your local mayor. You know that kind of thing right because I vote in local elections but when it comes to presidential votes it's a throwaway right. Like voted for John. McAfee in two thousand sixteen in the state of Mississippi by the way has a right in right and they they throw all right inputs into the trash so I knew when I went that it was completely pointless. I don't even know why did it in hindsight do they literally like you know the paper and throw it into again. I mean they don't count them. They just delete them. Then why even why. Why did I bother to? I mean like as an organization even like a have a thing why waste there's got to be any paperwork or posted. Did you mail it in. Did you go up. Mississippi is really screwed up in how it handles voting. There are only the electronic machines so at the very easy to rig easy to manipulate machines. There's no paper record of your vote whatsoever so for all you know you write in John McAfee and it puts you down for Donald Trump or whoever mickey mouse right yeah. There's no way of knowing because there's no way of auditing it. It's completely screwed up and I was not a fan of it. I like like the paper. Ballots here in New Hampshire so much better but even then I don't intend to vote for anyone for president in two thousand twenty because that legitimizes the system Sunday I want to dissolve. Its is really ironic for me ironic. I don't know if that's the right word. But prior to sort of coming coming out of the fog of state isn't as I like to call it about a ten or eleven years ago or so I didn't vote for president and in fact I didn't really vote for even local politicians mayors in that kind of a thing sheriff etcetera and so not it was just because politics. Ticks disgusts me. Whenever I see politicians they get this sense if you will that? They're used car salesman. Yeah I don't know if you've ever been to a used car. Sales Latman admit a shady. Used car. Salesman atypical you know. You know the stereotype. When I was eighteen I bought a used Camaro from one of these? Yeah so you get one of these sleazy people. So That's how I've just always felt about politicians in general you can just smell the lies. Ezra you can smell the. I'm in it for me. You can smell the you know whatever you WANNA call it It just you know it feels wrong and so when I did come out of the fog of state ISM I realized that even democracy is forcing your preference on other people right fifty fifty one percents telling you. They're forty nine what they can and can't do. And so if we say things like you know it's never never okay to force your preference upon another individual. Well voting is a mechanism that does just that and so if you subscribe to the non aggression principle it makes sense for me. I have the logic that says okay. I'm not going to aggress on other people and therefore I'm not going to vote because because it forces my preference upon other people or at least attempts to right if I vote a certain way Oh this person is going to make these other people have to do this thing. Well then I'm I'm guilty of aggressing upon those people. So that's how I see it. I would agree and this is why I prefer the concept of voting with the with the dollar or voting with the wallet however when we switched to characterize it except that can also become aggression in itself if you have enough money and other people don't have enough right if you control fifty fifty one percent of the money supply which extremely unlikely without a state making that true in the first place but you could through economic means alone coerce and manipulate people and essentially aggressive because coercion is aggression. especially if it's you know government money rise opposed to any other kind of currency might decide to use right and that's a problem. I think that a lot of our CO capitalists don't want to deal with is the reality not that money can indeed be used as a tool of aggression again a particularly government money right. Because I mean it's harder with like bitcoin fine but even so if Satoshi Nakamoto had wanted to he could have given himself fifty one percent of all bitcoin right but what but what I like about the Cryptos of course is that there is choice. There's thousands of crypto stance. He's now so you know. If one gets manipulated in such a way that it becomes coercive coercive or some wail gets a hold of you know the majority of one type of crypto currency. Everybody can just go to another one. You can't do that with state sponsored currency's right right the other thing about state-sponsored currencies. None of them are backed by anything right. I think. Probably the the geographic area known as the United States of America had past tense had one of the best ideas and that was the gold backed currency. All right. You're here we'll give you a piece of paper but if you bring this piece of paper to a bank we'll give you that amount of gold. Yeah it was basically an Iou for a set quantity the of gold. which is the way that banks are supposed to operate? You know because you can't carry around. Were long past that. I mean not in our lifetimes. We've never seen that. We might see something thing like a a currency collector here. Look it's an actual silver note right the silver certificates. There's also the Utah Outback's that you can buy now now right and I have a couple of those and they are really cool yes they are but accepts them. I have yet to try to go into a store store and spend them. But that's because the face value of the currency is significantly out of proportion to its dollar value right right the smallest one one is the the one one thousandth. And it's worth three bucks right now or something like something like fifteen twenty. Yeah Yeah. And it'll fluctuate with the price of gold. Of course you know in the St but my point about the state sponsored currencies is that the only thing it's backed by is the full force and violence. It's of the military. Yes that's that's how it gets. Its value people are like well. Don't let crypto currency because it's not backed by anything thing. Well do you want your current said. It'd be backed by violence murder right because that's the currency you're currently using. I was out at the bar one night with some friends and we were discussing. Bitcoin mean because anytime I'm around the conversation BEC- usually happens at some point in some manner and she says that she doesn't believe in Bitcoin. I Yeah I don't know what you mean. bitcoins like Santa Claus or something like the bitcoin just paid for everybody streaks. But let's go with. What do you mean? And she's like. Well let's not backed by anything. I was like well. Neither is the US de and you could almost see her inability to reconcile that reality. Yeah Ed because of the status stronghold in her mind saying no. I believe my government backs my money so I'm just going to believe that well as happens to many people who try to talk about subjects. They simply regurgitate whatever it is. They've been fed. This happens on a weekly basis with sports ball so and I do pay attention to some sports ball I have a favorite team etcetera and so on but when I get into discussions discussions with other sports ball people because I read a bunch right. I hear them saying exactly what all of the writers around Sports Ball all in the reporters around sports ball have set. And all they're doing is regurgitating those facts and figure or those opinions more importantly right because that's what they've been fed and it changes exactly when the reporters change their narrative right. And so it's it's amazing you can see and here the brainwash and the same thing goes for voting right particularly with the presidential election and in an election year. Right you so you can week by week. Day by day have political conversations with folks who are Republicans Democrats undecided. Or whatever it is. They're paying attention. Listen to the circus. That is the presidential campaigns and they do the same thing they regurgitate. Whatever the reporters have fed that right they watch watch the news at night? They read the paper in the morning or their favorite blog website. You know whatever it is and they just regurgitate. Whatever was fed to them the day before the week before? Well that's how the Russia story. The collusion story got so popular in the first place. Is People just regurgitating. That amazes me is that there are young Democrats out the WHO honestly believe that President Sanders would cancel all college student debt. Do you believe that let us know. I WANNA know why you're so insane. Eight five five four four five zero three seven three three. 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That's the only reason I still have. My base account is if I'm like point one. Bitcoin cash a short of what I need to complete sailors but I do like make an effort to keep most of my crypto off of their platform because when it is on their platform you you don't own your keys and if it's not your keys matrimony. Let's go to the phones. We got Robert Calling from Bellas falls for months Robert you're on free talk live. Thanks for taking my call absolutely. What's on your mind? So yesterday I was on. I didn't I didn't get a chance to finish. There was another another shelter. I WanNa bring up the CAP was there but but it ended. I think probably towards the end of the hour but it was a story that came out of talking then Former governor bat billions He lost the race. I think I don't know if it was this year last. Ask you know whatever it was but he. He went ahead before he left when they had the and gave commutations to hundreds region. Hundreds of inmates. Did you catch that at all. I did not. I'm not familiar with this. It's the story like I mean to me. That's that's great. I want but turned to the State of Kentucky People. They're really up about about what this guy did state but you know the the the interesting thing is that this guy said he went through you know all all all of these files and stuff like that just found a. I mean a lot of interesting things one case she talked about a little bit where you know. All the evidence was just not there was only one people. Send us this person. Did you real quick. I just pulled up a article from. NPR you're a national public radio. That is impaired dot org on his way out. Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin Pardons Murderers rapists and hundreds more. That's the headline pardon. Everyone in my opinion he's sort of in some of the Some of the people that find people that have been out for. Are you know twenty thirty years. So what difference does that make any should well. Wouldn't that elevate their criminal record. Well I mean from what I understand it It gives a person a you know like a like a whole brand new life. There racket racket is is completely wiped. Clean your they're not a felon you know they don't you know I'm not hearing the downside I UH-HUH I mean it used to be. Of course I wasn't around then but like Baffoni eighteen hundreds if you did like a stink five years for like a bank bank robbery when you got out you know after year being out you know you were pardoned by the governor in any one of the stage now. We're just not like that anymore. No we have a lot more people in prison now largely because of the drug war at the prison population has been climbing consistently Lisa. Like the assistant at least start at the drug war exactly and and you know this is a lot of this was caused. You know all because of What the Nancy Reagan and you know pushing you know The legalization harder on marijuana marijuana and stuff like that. And now we're finding out that you know cannabis is healthy for your and it. It does a lot of wonderful things which but it goes. Kinda thing victimless crimes. Yeah I remember. Nancy Reagan's just say no campaign very prevalent back in my youth. I mean that that works really well until the person is thirteen years old. This particular right about that. I understand but I mean in you know like I said in on how much you read into this in terms of what he said on twitter. You know a lot of the things that he said. was you know that it was what people said that someone did well in this seems to me. I've just only sort of breezed over this article presented by NPR. You know everybody's got their own agenda when they publish things like this but if it were me I would have pardoned all of the non violent criminals There's something and to be said for a convicted child rapist to remain in prison for reasons that kind of thing but this seems to me because he didn't do that more like he's just hurling giant Middle Finger in the air at his opponent in the political race. which totally fine with me if you want to give your opponent? The Middle Finger by pardoning a bunch of people I mean by all means anyway when we get back here in a moment. We're going to talk about reasons why you should not vote. Why voting is aggression? Eight five five four fifty free as in freedom is definitely been on the move recently and there is no more secure investment historically mcelhinney. ICA's been helping. People Take Delivery Liberal Precious Metals and find storage options for decades. They've helped thousands of investors with their precious metal. 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I was going on about my life and you did this thing wing and you imposed. You'll roll upon me. I can't complain about that. Yes yes absolutely. And you'd be well within your rights however if you voted and and you didn't get your preferred ruler of choice than you literally have no right to complain. In that instance well number. Two electoral promises are meaningless because politicians are able to lie to gain the favor of the electorate and then do exactly what they want once they have it. Well Doc who was it that said that The the republic was doomed as soon as people realise they could vote themselves money. Oh I don't remember but I remember I heard that quote before and then here comes Bernie Sanders at Andrew Yang Bernie Bernie Sanders of course is trying to convince young people all around the country that he is going to actually wipeout student loan debt and I heard what the hell is at bastards name. Tom Steyer right. This is so funny. It's like he's like. Hey there's there's few very few women in your political structure you know Congress senators etcetera and so on and there's very few people all of color you know Brown black yellow whatever however vote for me an old white guy and I will change all of that like how does I mean if go if you don't smell the BS coming up that hot steaming pile of garbage. Then something's wrong with your schnauzers. I absolutely have to find that video now because S. House. I mean I've seen him like in facebook as when I'm just scrolling through my feet or whatever but I just ignore them and keep scrolling because that's the only context in which I've heard about the guy in the first place right. It's not like he's he's not Tulsi. Gabbard here who I would vote for. Let me let me clarify my position on this because some people don't get it I would not vote vote for her in the presidential election. Because I don't believe in imposing own other people I would however vote for her in the Democratic primary and I intend to and the reason for that is because if other people are going to impose a roller upon me and I have the option to choose which of those rulers lers is going to be. I'm going to attempt to do that. I'm not imposing my will on anyone because I'm not voting for the president. I'm just voting for who will get the presidential nomination and it won't be Tolsey Gabbard anyway. So it's still just meet. Don't want to go through and then we've got What's her name The hated Elizabeth. Warren Right yes She's doing this thing now where she's like she's like I'm going to give everybody who collects social security a two two hundred dollar a month raise and I'm going to do it by taxing the richest two percent right and it's like yeah. You know every time that's been tried. That not only has that not happened but it's not even necessary. How about you just reduce the amount of money you put into the giant murdering behemoth? Notice the military terry by like one percent and give everybody a five hundred dollar a month increase. Because that's more doable than what she is proposing. I mean they. I know what will happen right if they atip tax billionaires say no billionaires. We'll do what they always do. They will. They will put their money in offshore bank accounts or finance the competition to that person who's promising to tax thinking. Oh Oh how am I going to best make use of my political dollar. I'm going to give it to the person that's not running on a campaign to tax me more right because that's how billionaires think yeah and if and if all else fails maybe they'll buy crypto. Well you know we hear a bunch of lies Ray. We heard the trump gonna drain the swamp and was Obama. I'm a coming out as this largely antiwar candidates and I realized because of his behavior and office a lot of people have forgotten that but yes The reason we we because I did vote for him in two thousand eight back when I was a status. The reason that we voted for him was because he was supposed to fix our foreign policy he was supposed to end the wars right. It wasn't because we were mad at Wall Street. That came later. Every president in the history of presidents since I've been alive has increased the number of bombs in the amount of military and how much murder is committed in the name of the quote citizens unquote of the United States states of America. See I was young and naive then. I actually Oh Barack Obama a huge credit attitude gratitude because of data to Nice. Is that what I said. Okay all the time. So you're pretty because he was the reason that I realized that politicians are just going to lie my favorite mindless Obama baton lie and that's told by Barack Obama during his campaign was the whole A lot of folks aren't GonNa remember this. Because you're you're brainwashed into forgetting it two weeks after after it happens right His bid about whenever a bill comes across my desk. I'm going to put it online and you're going to be able to. Let's see it for thirty days before it's put up for a vote which never happened right and and what I mentioned this to people who voted for that's dotted. I do now and then like no you just go google it there it is. You know it's right there. I think that trump promised to drain the swamp and build the wall. And all of this and it didn't set. Both Obama and trump claimed that they were going to close Guantanamo. Yes well Bronco Bama promise that he was going to and he never did right and that was the lie that he produced that. 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Yes I wouldn't vote for a libertarian candidate who promise that they were just going to seize power log enough to abolish the the state you know. That's that's what the communists have always said as they ceased power. We're just seizing power temporarily so that we can so that we can and established the paradise that we all want. There's nothing so permanent as a temporary government program right and I imagine that would be true of most libertarians as well. I mean you know what might get me to. Vote is if the voting to secede from the United States of America. where an actual thing thing right? I would vote in that if New Hampshire were in a position where there are enough people here and that particular topic was on the table. You know an H. Exit if you will not to be confused with whatever the the the mayor's doing where he's trying to re rename and read number the exits off the freeways that's happening. I think that's a different. NHA that I'm talking about the brexit equivalent for New Hampshire. Where New Hampshire is just declaring itself a sovereign and independent country from the rest of what's known as the United States of America? I might be compelled to vote for that. That's a good point despite my objection to voting in any other with a perform really. I mean when we talk about voting. Are we talking about voting for representatives or are we talking about voting on referendums and things of that nature and what level are these representatives function because I vote in local elections because usually I know the people personally that I'm voting for have you. I've worked in an office environment. A bunch and I've seen a third and go horribly wrong just even in a in an office you know sort out of workplace environments you know something gets put up for. Hey How should we decorate for Christmas this year. Right something you know some human resources person and we'll come up with some ridiculous thing. Oh we'll have people vote on it. It'll be fun right and it always goes horrifically wrong. The results come in and you you know whatever is decided is decided and then they have to make an exception like oh well. Joey's Vegan so we can't have any you know I don't know you know the reindeer or something you know it's all they all start making exceptions or changing the winning in some way shape or form you know even though it was a quote fair Voghera Unquote election or voting process. Right there is nothing more stupid on the face of the planet than human beings in large numbers numbers making important decisions agreed wholeheartedly so other races not to vote we. We only got through the number to you right away on three are going on to three. The act of voting Greg's legitimacy to the idea that it's acceptable for the majority. The collective to use the coercive arm of the state to impose their will on the minority using force or threats of force. And for that reason it's immoral to vote now. See that's that's where people lose me. I don't think it's immoral to vote. That's like saying like saying because it matters. How Oh you vote right? It's like saying that shooting. A gun is immoral. Because you can use a gun to shoot an injure someone right you can also use a vote to shoot and injure someone but that isn't necessarily how you have to use your vote. Their statement. That voting is immoral that includes be going a voting for John McAfee even though US getting thrown into the trash. That act by itself is immoral so they're essentially saying that it's immoral to loaded gun pull a trigger because it's immoral to loaded gun pointed at someone's head and pull the trigger. Yeah I mean I think in this particular instance. The article is speaking about people who vote in sort of a you know but he meant Mitch the active owning. And that's what that's why did all of that that I that I just said because so many people do equate voting to using voting to initiate aggression against people but one can also vote with their wallet you know if voting is immoral than so is capitalism because capitalist system by which people vote with their wallets. Some people would agree with you most. Libertarians would not however the letter isn't capitalism though like a term coined by Communist. Yes so like whatever you WANNA call it a lot of baggage to unpack then. The free market is immoral. I don't see spending my money as a vote right I get that. It's it's a euphemism right. It's like Oh you can vote with your feet. You can vote with your dollar. The these are all things that you could should would and would be able to do in an actual free market. That doesn't equate pointing the guns of government at your fellow man to get your way right because there are different types of voting. I mean there are different types of currency right. I mean unless you're exclusively referring to the state-sponsored Currency Mansa right you you could vote with your dollar quote unquote just by choosing to use a different currency. Yes by using bitcoin. You can for folks vote with your vote with your wallet against the state hopefully by bleeding it dry and letting it dissolve of its own accord. That's what that's what would happen. If everyone's switched to cryptocurrency yes the state would wither away and die we can ignore them out of existence. Yeah we wouldn't have to use aggression. There would have to be a violent revolution that would just lead to another state. There would have to there. Wouldn't be any politician being beheaded or anything horrific and immoral like that. Just bleed lead it dry by not using its money other raises a non voter emerges from the electoral process. What they clean conscience? Let's me because they can legitimately proclaimed that the elected representatives subsequently say and do different things after they gained power. You're good Lord he phrased this so strangely. Yeah what he means is they're not. The politicians are not doing any of their shenanigans in your name. Well and in this day and age of technology My question for the status folks always. Why can't I represent myself self like I have in my hand right now? I have a device in which I can search arguably the sum total of mankind's knowledge any moment I can send the value of my labor my efforts around the world in seconds right but for some reason. Listen I'm not able or capable or allowed to represent me. Why do I need a frigging to cast the vote for some douchebag? That's not going to do. What he says is GonNa do any? Why can't I just represent myself when it comes to these matters and let's not forget? Of course I that politicians are experts in nothing right. Why would you want your doctor to diagnose your automobile of course not? Your doctor has a specialty right. Politicians politicians don't and yet they're constantly creating legislation. That does in fact interfere with your automobile with your cell phone with your healthcare healthcare and all these other things that they know nothing about like the Republican guy who wanted some type of pregnancy to be reimplanted into women or something. I don't know because it was lunacy. See from the first place and then when he gets challenged on it in the House of Representatives he says well. I didn't even know what that was. Well you wrote a bill about it. I believe I believe I believe he said the quote was how should I know. I'm not a doctor. 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In general I tend to ignore the states and I know that that's only only possible because the state is so big and the population so big that it can't actually monitor everyone as it will one day but but at the moment for trying. It's quite easy to go about your life however you want a brief period of time And eventually the state will catch up to you because that's what the state does Jay noon talks about a lot on Wednesday nights like he doesn't have a license because he doesn't have a birth certificate or social security number or any here at this stuff and and that works but eventually they're going to find you and throw you in jail. Yeah so the whole state apparatus needs to be dissolved agree am I preferred method of doing that is crypto currency but before we can actually abolish the state. Well there there will be more elections before the state actually withers and dies by being bled to death by cryptocurrency. There will definitely be more elections. And the more people who participate in those elections the more legitimized they become socially so. We're looking at reasons here from not being covered dot com about. Why one should vote? Do you have to put up in front of you and you can't go I can What are we number? Four yes a non voter emerges emerges from the electoral process with a clean conscience. We covered this because we had actually just ended on the fourth. Sorry about we'll go good of five number five on the top twenty reasons not to vote here on free. Talk Live to not vote. Does Not mean one relinquishes. Che's the right to then comment on complain about or protest the actions of the government. It is completely the other way around when one votes one effectively really makes a contractual agreement. The voter is officially recorded. Doing so which hands over the right for someone else to speak and act in their name and as such a sense whatever the government does thereafter a sense to a non voter however has not done so and therefore or retains the right to complain object and protests all they want strictly speaking. I don't think that's actually true. I I think his reasoning there holds up. Well what he's alluding to is that if you do vote you know you've you've -scribed your name to say that. Oh I consent and sent to the system ruling over us. Well I can sign a sheet of paper saying consent to have someone else speak on my behalf. Anyway I mean that's essentially what a power of attorney he is and I can always retract that you know. That is the issue that you can always retracted. Well well I wouldn't sign it over unless I could retract it right but the because of how the American system set up they are rare but there are ways to to recall elected candidates so he is so it's not like a forever thing where Oh you voted for this candidate so now you can't complain because you gave them the right to speak. Can you name. It was like okay. But I hereby nullify that contract. Because he's not keeping his agreement and this is I mean just the fact that it sparks this much discourse about the topic is enough of a reason for me not to vote right. Oh Oh you've you've done I've done nothing of the sort in in music oftentimes I've discovered that sometimes it's best to to leave a space right have arrest. Have nobody do anything right. A moment of silence in between between one part and the next part. And if you do it and use it effectively it makes the whole song right right well as a musician. You're inclined to fill the space with all the musical legal stuff that you can possibly cause you you know you want to write a good but like sometimes you know what you do is far more important than what you actually you do. And to the point of number five Yeah I I do not relinquish the right to comment on complain about or a protest. The actions of government Whether or not I vote. Yeah I mean plus the contract that you're signing by voting think gives you the right in fact to complain about those politicians well particularly if the guy or Gal that you voted voted for doesn't win. Yeah absolutely another really good. I can't tell you how many times I've heard that from anybody right. Whatever president has been like? I did vote for that person. I didn't vote for him. And that Guy Right you and I can say that in all circumstances right you know so a in effect a non voter is having the voter's preferences forced forced upon them Number six participation in the system reinforces the idea that people can't live together without violent control. which is I mean I? I can't argue with that if you participate in the system. It's reinforcing the idea that people can't live together without violent control. Isn't it curious. Just the whole argument. These people use is that we can't have a civilized society without horrifically uncivilized acts and in fact the most uncivilized acts. I have been or have occurred underneath the guise of the government. Right war right. That's I you know. The largest the government is the largest mass murder of all time right any government. Pick one right if you have one. They've murdered some people and they are in by orders as of magnitude the largest mass murders of all time. And so you know the argument. I always tell people. There's a difference between government government and society. Most people can't get their heads wrapped around that there is a difference. Society exists independently of government. Society is the people around you your community you know folks who are otherwise wanting to be productive members and treat human beings like human beings right. That's society that civilized society and when they recognize the difference they come to the conclusion. Somehow the government is what created the society. I've had well I mean they're one and the same thing right when I'm like no. They're not they're not the same thing. In fact they are two completely different things. One is is a violent violent organization who points guns in your direction. If you don't do it they say the other one is like your family. Your friends your neighbors your community and all that kind of thing. Yeah there's definitely a bit of a qualitative difference there Reason number seven not to vote participation in the system implies that the majority he knows what's best for everyone I don't know about you. We talked about it a minute ago but when a large quantity of people together makes a decision for everybody else generally dumb. Oh yeah well I think the average person making their own decisions is usually going to make pretty bad decisions. Because I don't know what's best for me. Well you know better than anybody else else. Yes but I'm clueless on the subject. I just kind of do what I want and most of it really not that great idea but I mean who's being out there. Smoking a cigarette. That's a terrible idea idea. But WHO's more qualified to run your life than you. Oh by far. no-one nobody right like and I don't mean the Co host for you know known as nobody. I mean like not any single person on the face of the planet is better suited to tell you how to live your life. Then you are. You're familiar with yourself herself more so than anybody else you know. You're more in tune with your preferences and your life's journey than anybody else's why on Earth if would you ever want somebody else to have that power over you. And they're basically saying here. That under the Democratic Republic system is basically a bunch of people voting. What color shirt you have to wear? I mean it's more messed up than that as far more immoral. But how would they know what color looks best on everyone everyone well. And you're kind of in effect calling yourself a moron by voting you like I'm not. I'm not smart enough to run my own knife I I I can't I can't make decisions. I know I want everybody else to make my decisions for me. I can't just buy toilet. That doesn't use more water than I went. Want to us. Now I need the government to for me. Yeah it's it's ridiculous man. It is more reason not to vote. Of course you can talk about whatever you like. 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Oh fast number one here. The idea that you consent by voting and I heard you regurgitate this particular point earlier captain and that is that the I'm sorry I'm pretty sure that when I vote Or that when I've registered to vote I have not consented to the system in fact when I actually registered to vote out here For the first time in New England are New Hampshire like a decade plus ago there actually was a term on the the registration form that said you agree to abide side by all the laws of the state I crossed that out and signed the form and they still accepted it wolves. That's BS and mother most voter forms. Don't say that they've actually gotten rid of that particular terminology since then. You're you're you so of course you're going to do that. The jury is what you're saying. You're going to what you're saying is it's actually not true. That Clinton what I'm saying is the majority of the people who cast their vote aren't going to cross out the section that they know better than to that section doesn't exist anymore and it doesn't exist on most voter for him so that's just not a true statement. It's just a fantasy that these people who write these lists have come up with to justify not voting and that's fine if you don't want to vote then don't vote. I mean it takes up your time. That's like a good reason not to vote voting time it only takes a few minutes really sure in some places. There's like a line now. I mean not around here but you know if you get there at seven. Am and it's like a big election. There might be a slight line. You gotTA drive out of your way to go to the Va.. I mean there's some reasons not to vote like you're busy don't do it But to suggest that you're consenting to be ruled it's ridiculous is is voting not forcing your preferences upon other people of course not because the government gang is going to be there doing their thing whether you turn out or not. And they don't care whether you show up or not vote they're going to go ahead and force their preferences on you anyway. So then. Why vote because you could possibly reduce the violence in what way? Well if there's for instance a vote on a tax item for instance to increase taxes and there have been votes like this. When I left Florida there was a vote to increase the sales tax in Sarasota County by one percent to go up from seven percent to eight percent and they had like schoolchildren out on the side of the road waving signs? Like do it for me. Stuff like this and And so you know if you'd voted no on that then you would have Helped to try to prevent The tax from going up in nearby town here to Keene New Hampshire. They had a vote on a shiny new fire truck. Like two hundred thousand dollar color vote item because in towns the towns people make decisions on things like that rather than like in the city like in Keene City Council that sides those things and mark miss that vote and it lost by one vote it one thing passed passed by one vote so like is that what you're talking about. I mean for me when we did raise this point earlier about The differences between voting for representatives unfolding and referendums. Okay but what if the representative is somebody like Aria dmed. So who's running for County sheriff who also brought up the distinction in between local and federal and state level. No doubt I did hear some of that And obviously you know federal level votes are pretty indistinct and pointless. You're dropping up in a giant ocean but still these people are against voting okay. They're not discriminating one level or not. They're saying if you vote you consent and that's just just total BS. Because I don't consent so the fact that I go and vote doesn't mean that I've all of a sudden consented to be ruled so in in the The Free Society that Libertarians as you know sort of Want to achieve a devoting still exist. I Dunno I guess that would be up to the The organizations that you're I mean there are organizations that hold votes votes for like Yes lord members and siding on whatever spending training in there spouting with one's wallet there's that and putting what certainly still exist in some form. It voting is consensual than. That's fine so I think we need to make the distinction between voting for government versus voting for anything else okay. Well there's that distinction but I still talking about voting for government here when I vote. I'm not voting for government. I'm doing what I can to vote to restrict strict the criminal gang a to reduce the number of lashings that They shout to reduce the number of people that they put into cage attempt to. Yeah I'm going to vote for nobody. Nobody are Co.. Our Co host is names nobody He changed his name legally and he's going to run in the The part the election the primary for governor here in in New Hampshire. I'm going to vote for him. And if he somehow by some miracle actually defeats the incumbent in the primary I will vote for him With pride in the general election he says says he's going to pardon all non violent drug offenders at all nonviolent offenders period who don't actually have a victim so like if that could happen why why wouldn't I want to participate in something like that. I mean that seems like the moral thing to do in that case rather than these people just you know. Their viewpoint is that you're legitimizing chitimia system really well. I would like to know from everyone who believes this and sounds like you believe it deeply taxes they take taxes. Oh I see but does that. Mean that you're legitimizing the system but no it doesn't no because I mean you don't have to pay them right Actually I do really so like when you buy that house is that you are thinking about buying. You could choose not to pay the tax on the house. Well sure but I also choose to suffer the consequences right. which would be? They might still your house from you. They they will still my house for me and and if I resist them taking my house they will send armed men with guns to come and get me and if I refused to go with them they report the authority to shoot me. You're in my life so just by you know protesting them MHM stealing from me. I put my life in danger up to and including death right so that is a system. I want zero. 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Because that's what these people who are anti voters are we're doing it constantly looking down their nose at somebody who wants to participate in a system to try to reduce the violence in the system. which is for me? The purpose of participating system is is to stop try to stop it from hurting peaceful people and by voting for principal liberty candidates which we have here and I can understand why somebody would be frustrated if all they had to choose. Choose from was like Republican crap can candidate a or Democrat crap candidate. I get that. That's frustrating stay home fine But here in New Hampshire and some some other places you do get the chance to actually vote for somebody who's got some principles and who may actually apply those principles when they get into office but the whole idea of your legitimising. The system is sort of the the overarching theme of the a lot of these objections. Here and I think paying taxes legitimizes the system a heck of a lot worse than participating in the voting system not to mention region also obeying the system Legitimizes the system. So the more people do those things. The worse off we are voting is a trivial activity. That really is insignificant. As far as everything is going but if you actually empowered state by giving it your money you are literally committing to killing other human beings. Now I understand if you're under duress S. I get it. I get it by disagree that financing the system is far more damaging from these however many of them Mr Financing the system. Not just looking at you captain. Chaos but how many of these people writing these articles you know looking down their noses at. Oh will you voted. You're empowering the system. Well Yeah how much money did you give the system this year. Because I'll tell you one thing if everybody stays home. which is what these people want? They want to convince everyone to stay home. Got News is for you if you need to convince everyone of something in order for your thing to work out it's not gonNA work out and because one thing's for sure you're never gonNA convince the bureaucrats to stay home right. They get paid to go out there and vote. That's their system and they're going to keep going out there and voting but yet there have been elections where no one has voted. You know maybe because because it's such a small town in Lake. The bureaucrats were busy doing something else or the politicians just couldn't make it to the polls. They figured they were shoe in Nestor. Nobody came out the zero votes. Were tallied and guess what happened. Somebody still one. They folded up the government and went home. I'm kidding going. And you know what they all paid their taxes X.'s. There is a running motor running theory that even if only two people show up to vote for any election. Let's say the presidential election that it you know. Somebody's still GonNa win absolutely even if no one shows up. They have methods for that. They'll do a coin dot different methods for if no one shows now before we dive further into this. We need to go to the phones because I have something to say. I'm sure we've got Larry from Indiana Larry. You're on free talk live. Hey I was gonNA talk about one this article. I read a book that I have but since you guys are talking about taxes. You can't expect taxes. I I was really shot this morning when I went out to get coffee right and before I came back home is given the state of Indiana over to two two thousand eighty cents for you just would not well for a couple of others Various and sundry things about two but two hundred to two dollars and eighty cents. You just imagine all the people at a fan that and when you buy gas you can't escape so You dream an ear. Allow la La land if you think you'RE GONNA escape. Taxes and property taxes are now that we've been laxed in that been on our government government. What we do is we give the money to the politicians right and they turn around and deal with out today friends and ah tips then And and other campaigns they have I was listening to a program over in Cincinnati last night where they had so called tenth the district that's where they turn to retain a certain portion of the mate is paid and a taxing district right and then they handed out other businesses. Let's say they WANNA come in and start not thinking that If you if you had to come and beg for money to have development then you really. They don't have a business if you had to get one thin it you know now that you get on your own so we have lost that and as far as politicians will take Jake As far as will allow them to do but taxes. You're not GonNa get away with that because they've got taxes and return you make every remove you're gonNA be banned tag. Well certainly. We'll put them corden gasoline aside for the moment. There's no sales tax in New Hampshire. And there's no income tax in New Hampshire. So let let's forget. Get about property tax for the moment as well if you're erased those two things. How much tax revenue is the state of New Hampshire really collecting from the people of New Hampshire? Well through property tax quite a bit. You can't put that aside. I mean that's where they put the bulk a in theory escape those by Nagano. The renter know that they put the burden on your essential thing. Like your own if anything should big from taxes taxes right. They should be the place where you live in most states. There prop so-called property taxes on. And that just means that your taxes can't be raid unless you have a referendum one I think it's a referendum like our kids need to be guarded more the schools. We need to get fifty million dollars. We need to have a mass transit. We need fifty million dollars. And before you turn out you just wrote to stay with all system but That's just the sound of the Times you know what I think is really the bottom all know now though jobs would say the council meeting last. That's nice they are delegating They're taxing authority to certain communities. They have an eight person. Board that can raise taxes is to do improvement community. And that's just the way of saying you can tax the poor people out of out of your community without any action on our part art. So they'll look to you but they do that Matt gone so I just think when we start having our government taking our money at gun point and then turnaround giving it to their friends. That's what we've lost control of the whole system we've never had control over its institutionalized. It's institutionalized theft. I don't think anybody in this room or on this show currently including you leery would disagree that Taxation Asian is theft. I would say it's extortion. Which is technical share? They used to help people to pay the taxes right now. Nah they blatantly that L.. Do that either. They have some program to protect. Junkies are getting some junkie treatment or something and end up spending more money atty on the Jockey Dan they end up patients. Larry listen they got the problem too because they probably bought it on ourself so but the thing about it is. People are trying to capitalize on sickness and in pharmacy like some woman. Other day was on the radio. Talking about her son died of diabetes. Oh man she gonNA start a foundation and write a book on about how she felt when she died from diabetes but You the supermarket. And you see Johnson Park or card's full of soft drinks. They notice the connection right there but they won't stop doing net. What Dan Larry? Thank you so much for the call. I I don't know is there a way to escape taxes That ultimately won't catch up to you because that's what it's all about right become a church. That's a great idea now. 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You can learn more about it at divvy project dot org one more time that stiffy project dot org now before we get to the phones there you had a statement you wanted to make about two in in regards to voting. I just wanted to you know sort of a what my path of logic is and you know if he wants is to Pick that apart and tell me where the logic falls apart him. You know happy to listen Government is the monopoly over. The initiation of force is in geographic area right. Yeah Okay and so I don't ever want to force my preferences and opinions on anybody else us I would much rather use convincing arguments. You know US facts in evidence to get people to sort of you you know. Oh come to the conclusion that I've come to and so if government is the initiation of violence in a geographic area the monopoly over the initiation of Then why would I ever want to deploy that upon other people regardless of my noble intent. Right like you're not. Why how how wouldn't be if I vote? I'm deploying the government against other people. That's that's a nice opinion but there's no evidence for that. Yeah again that comes back to the idea that is immoral to simply shoot a bullet from a gun because it's immoral to shoot somebody with the gun. Voting doesn't convey any kind of information right. So when you when you when you vote you may have an intention attention right like in my case. I'm voting to reduce the violence. Like I want to choose candidates. I think this candidate is going to do less. Violence is going to reduce the amount of people that are harmed armed but the candidate doesn't know that the candidate all they see is well. At least people voted for me. They must love everything I say. Or whatever you know knows what goes through their heads So I mean what you're saying isn't necessarily wrong but it's also not necessarily right because each individual votes for different reasons so if somebody votes for Donald Donald Trump because they want to see the wall built in C Mexicans thrown out of the country. That's different than somebody who votes for Donald Trump because they enjoy the laugh the laughter that he you know engenders and the fun of of the Donald Trump presidency and the ridiculousness of it Because whatever you do they're going to do whatever whatever they want. Regardless of how you vote so it really doesn't point devoting. Well it's very there's very little point to it especially at the federal level as you guys already covered but at the local level. There's definitely a point to it. It's still I don't see where voting isn't forcing your preferences on somebody else well don't vote for are enforcing gear preferences on someone else. Will I just don't vote. And therefore I don't force my preferences on anybody see what you're saying so if nobody our our co host. Nobody if he wins the gubernatorial election here in New Hampshire. He will force his viewpoint on other people by releasing people from prison. Right Harnett even though. I agree with the premise mess him doing that. He is still in fact right. If fifty one percent of the people say we want him in office for that position to do those things things and he gets an office and unlike any other politician in the history of politics fulfills his promises right he would force the government people alive he would force not the government but the people who didn't want him to release those people force them into now they have released. Those people not really that concerned with how those people feel well honestly if they WANNA keep hurting peaceful people. I'm not gonNA shed a tear because they were you know their system got dismantled if they WANNA keep like you know giving money to violent people. They're still free to do that if that's what they WANNA do. I get what you're saying and you can opt out from the system and feel like your hands are clean You know as long as you're not paying taxes and obeying the system and doing what they tell you because again a lot of these people who don't vote keep going along to get along to keep you know jumping through whatever hoops. They're told to jump through when when they they get fined by the government. Do they pay the fine. I bet you most of them do well. I mean I don't I I'd opt out as much as I can wherever I believe you. I WanNa know about these people who wrote this list. Oh I then had I actually eating ticket and haven't paid it. I don't actually know who the author is. It's from Emma even signed or even an author on gift giving credit or her. Whoever it is I want to know how many of these written compiled by Robert Roszak? Okay Robert Robert. How many tickets have you received in your life that you haven't paid if it's all of them? You got my respect brother because if all you're doing is not voting and trying to tell me you're going to change something that's crap crap because it's not going to change anything no because there always will be at least one person who's willing to vote and you know libertarian. Even stopped voting as long as they keep obeying saying. That's the real problem. The problem is the obedience to the state because as soon as you stop obeying and paying it's over for them as soon as enough people stop and you don't have to have everyone everyone if it were ten percent of the people that's true. Yeah you need a very vocal. You'd grind it to a halt. If ten percent of the people who received parking tickets didn't pay. Hey the parking tickets. They'd have to toss them all out. They don't have time for that in court. If ten percent of the people who got a speeding ticket didn't pay the speeding ticket demanded a trial. They'd be overwhelmed overwhelmed with cases and they wouldn't be able to build courts and judges fast enough they'd have to throw him out but all these people talk about not voting act. Like that's GonNa do something. I'm sorry. Sorry it's not going to end the state. It's going to do nothing. I I would like to point out just at the very bottom of the article. They sort of summarize the twenty reasons that's right And let me just read it to you and you tell me what you think. If you are not voluntariness then by definition you are an involuntary volunteer and as such personally advocate the initiation of force or threat of I against people who haven't threatened or harmed anyone therefore for every person in the world one of these. Two statements is true. I advocate a society where people are free to voluntarily interact with one another or I advocate the use of force or threat force against innocent people in order to make them comply with my opinions and preferences. I think that's beautiful. I totally advocate for voluntary society. I am a volunteer. I know you not only do. I advocate for it. I will do things to try to forward. That aren't activists. Yeah I will do things. Well this guy is active because he wrote an article but I wanna know what else he does because that's good trying to convince people of not voting. Oh that's cool but what's that really going to accomplish. Nothing I think. crypto currency is a more viable liable method of halting the state. I totally agree. Yeah I mean. I've talked about the ideas that stack on top of that. Like the Bit nation thing right where it literally forces governments to become competing service for even forcing the government forcing I mean it literally. Early Jane Martin Competition to into competing service providers by inventing a new and better way right. It's it's the buckminster quote right. Don't fight the reality that is instead build a better model and deploy it. And that's how you enact change so I mean I don't necessarily think you're wrong about your moral belief that voting may at some level. Encourage you know the state or or whatever I mean I don't WanNa put words in your mouth or what I I think that ultimately you can look at it as these people are religion and they have a very crazed religious belief. And we're not going to talk them out of it anytime soon We're not going to convince him to not Vo. We're not gonNA convince them to stop participating in their crazed religious system that is violent and based and violence so accepting the idea that a large number of people will continue to believe in this system than it is a harm reduction model to participate in. I think some of what I'm hearing you say. Correct me if I'm wrong is the voting in self defense. That's absolutely what I've heard. I've heard this before and I can't. I can't poking any holes in that right if you are under duress by the setting that that state will put people under duress and so you're trying to reduce the duress. Well it's I mean we all exist in a state of duress. As long as the state exists. It may not be successful but I still have the right to complain to come back to the other one. I absolutely have the right to complain. Yes Oh come on. That comes back to father. George Man George Carlin. Yeah well the idea is that the person is going to represent you and even at the person you vote for wins. Wins if you don't like what they're doing you can still complain. Yeah and I will. It's bizarre to say that they can't complain because they participated in the system they don't represent present me and I'm under no delusion that they do they represent only themselves they couldn't possibly represent anyone else and so I mean the whole system is bs in it's garbage but as long thing as it exists I don't feel like it's immoral to cast a vote to try to reduce the violence. Because it's going to do what it wants by and large I mean if we actually voted for a bunch chipped libertarians. Who Actually? We're going to keep their promises and go in and dismantle government. How do we know that they're going to keep their promises? And they get elected actually a cool little Group here in New Hampshire after called the New Hampshire Liberty Lines that tracks all that stuff unless it's just assumed that they will keep their promises. 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If I recall correctly you cannot have on the prostitutes. I don't think so. Well maybe you could could from a different county. So they had like a Webcam in the county where we're was legal to do prostitution and the betting went on in the county next door. Then you'd would probably be able to do it but we need to talk about opening a business here after the show's over no so. Evidently I mean I'm just going to let them take it away because they do a better job with it you've heard of happy ending told. I'm wrong gene. Christian anarchist says all counties have have gambling. So I don't know what the restriction is. Maybe they just individually decide on whether they want prostitution or not. I guess that could be just done at the county level. So you've heard of happy innings CD underground massage parlours. I've heard of them. I'm not convinced that it's really even think never having gone to try to get one. I have never tried to go and get when I've never been to one of these massage parlors but it's a thing doesn't the owner of the New England patriots or the Kosher. Whatever know something about the owner got caught up in a sting operation? Down in Florida to Robert Kraft his name. Okay they had video of it. Apparently well now you can get oral sex. At coffee shops. At the end of this year shops plural is the chain mm-hmm evidently it probably a successful franchise opportunity so it's called Felicia cafe. That's actually what what is called all right. And it's opening in Geneva. Switzerland no point beating around the Bush on that. Maybe everyone knows exactly what they're getting there. You fought thought long and hard about the firm behind the Swiss cafe called face girl says customer so it's not called Palladio cafe. It's called face girl. They know they're calling the cafe. Felicia cafe the firm that owns seek. Half of the company is okay. It's called face girl. Gotcha they say that customers. I will be able to order coffee. And then select a sex worker of their choice from an IPAD to give them oral sex. Okay sounds better than starbucks. Sounds more expensive than starbucks. Yes I can imagine a starbucks pretty damn expensive. I nicknamed maimed four bucks back in the day because you can't get out of there for less than four bucks so evidently fifty dollars more expensive. That's what they're oral. Sex surface costs hold on. So is it legal to do prostitution and would you say Switzerland. Switzerland is legal. You there evidently okay. I mean I don't know if they were like a fifty dollar a cup of coffee and then you get a free. BJ To go along with it. You know you're not paying for the BJ. Friday that's right. Yeah some sort of loophole to write although usually that they they cover those loopholes in laws against prostitution. Like you know you can't give away a drink in New Hampshire Lake. It's illegal to give people drinks apparently in in New Hampshire or something from what I understand like depending on how you read. The law like essentially any distribution of alcohol without a license is is a crime waitressing every time we go to the bars right. Well there it's a legal dealer who's who's giving me alcohol so there it's okay but if you like buy a six pack and you're at your house and you give one to your friend as I understand it that's actually a crime. It's just not enforced. That sounds a lot like the The airplane bottles on the airplanes. Right like you can bring your own airplane bottles onto a flight But you cannot open it yourself really you have to legally right. I mean I've been on plenty of planes where I brought airplane bottles and I opened it. So He's GONNA I don't know but apparently to be in compliance with the letter of the law. What you need to do is some in the attendant right the little button and get the person in uniform? Come over be like well you please open this for me and then they open it and hand it back to you so that you're technically not serving serving yourself. They have served. It's ridiculous. That is ridiculous. I was going to be that if you try to get around certain laws like well. I'm not selling alcohol. I'm selling you a pencil and you're getting a a free bottle of alcohol I'm not selling. Bj I'm selling you a cup of coffee. They usually have prohibitions in the laws that cover that stuff. They don't hear New Hampshire for prostitution Shen and Recording however that's true you can make a sex tape in New Hampshire. Pay A girl money for the sex tape and then never published the sex tape right and it's completely legal and then arguably you could delete the tape as long as you have the intention of distributing distributing the thing and then intention could change after you create it. Yeah the table she well. The lighting was awful. Yeah so as always as critics blasted the proposal claiming that only developers would benefit from the business but alas prostitution is legal in Switzerland as long as the the sex workers have permits okay. That that's a strange idea to me. I'm so I'm sorry before I can pay you for this oral sex. I need to see your permit. Did the government approve you to give people oral sex in exchange for money. That's like the in the state of Washington. They have the food handlers permit and this is for anybody that works in a restaurant you must I go take this government class and then pay a fee for them to give you a car that says you've taken the government in class and now you are certified to be able to flip a burger. Yeah that's not uncommon. I think that most most states have that I understand it I grew up in a time. It didn't exist so they say they'll be doing business by the end of the year. Sounds like a good time to vacation in Switzerland. Books flights to Switzerland putting that reminds a lot of money for a BJ. That's true it is just a novelty it would be easier to just go to. It is the novelty but it was still be a lot easier to just like go to a bar here in some junk college shake. Is that easier okay. I mean you're probably GONNA pay for it. It's somehow whether it's paying for the booze or you know actually subscribing to the service girl it'll be as good as a professional a sober professional. Maybe not but the gap between worst oral sex and best oral all sex small really small okay and there are bigger problems to complain about if poking someone in the face isn't going how one would like so. How did it does opportunity? I will say that it does and of course around here not around here but in in the United States they do have like the tiki cheeky bar. Kind of concept where It's hot girls basically serving serving coffee or whatever they had that down in Sarasota terracotta. where I I was from and I never never got to go to one but it was always interesting driving by as a kid they have those I'm trying to remember what they're called. World in the state of Washington in Seattle particular end they will frequently get busted for prostitution like the topless or even just the Bikini Baristas priest is They'll run sting operations they'll find out that Oh for an extra ten bucks. They'll you know Take their top off. You know for while they're making the guys coffee or whatever you know Kinda thing and then the cops will swoop in ridiculous because you know. They've harmed so many people they're doing. So because the the cops are Horn dogs and prostitution though captain you alluded to this a moment ago and you're correct ultimately you're GONNA pay one way or the other whether is by. I having a girlfriend who is complaints. You have to listen to seriously or whether it's buying her drinks or whether just giving her cash in the making her go away afterward. I'm trying to remember the comedian media into who said you know. Basically all women are prostitutes on then. I I'm not disagreeing with that. But you're going to pay for it one way or another whether their prices one hundred bucks or it's marriage into lifetime of bliss right. That's some form of feminist happening. I'm not sure I would describe cried. Marriage lists but I remarried right. I was married eight five five four five zero three seven three three. What do you think about oral sex at copy shops eight five five four five zero three seven three three? Have you heard of liberty. Con Liberty Con is not only a convention with great speakers like whole foods CEO and Co founder John mackey she and Nobel Prize winner Vernon Smith. 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Yeah for those who care about the fourth of July I imagine I like to call Independence Day. Okay that works I mean the independence pendens from the British empire was celebrating. I suppose time to do it again. Yes it absolutely is. Well join us for the Independence Day weekend hand at Rogers Campground. We're going to be there from June. The twenty ninth until the July the owner. But I'll be there and I'm just looking forward to it. It's GONNA be Great. It was great fun last year. Last year was the biggest we had ever seen it and bring a given the ladies in excuse to show up this time around. We're hosting a ladies night out daily really and least is going to be a permanent SORTA site. We have set up there for ladies to just come and Chilean drink and so people are going to be selling you know soaps and scented flowers and stuff like at the not sit at flowers obviously was centrally. Yeah things that ideally girls with like. Yeah so it's GonNa be is going to be great. 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Because I knew they were going that direction because they had they have their own prime delivery service. I mean on your from Seattle. So Amazon is their their home bases in it is right the headquarters so so there. That's what they're doing like some of the experiments where they had that Amazon store where you can like go in and you scan your Amazon App at the the like there's like a turnstile I guess you go in. You take whatever you want from the shelves and walkout there during the day with your hand thing right where they take a scan of your hand and then that scan of of your hand instead of doing like face recognition I recognition. That scan of your hand is then in their database. And when you go through the thing you put your hand in this thing and it scans your hand and that's tied to your Amazon was on prime account. So you've been in there haven't been in there but okay this. Is your stores same store. Okay because I remember when we were first reading about it it was you were going to use their APP out but now. They're doing biometrics while they're experimenting with right. And so the I I used to live in either or I used to live in South Lake Union. Which is the shadow of Amazon Amazon? Everybody that lives in that neighborhood either works Amazon or has worked for Amazon or is in some way you know reliable. Yeah and so But that store or is in Seattle on. That's they're using that store to incubate any future ideas and so you see it happen in that store I so I've never seen an Amazon truck shipping anything right. I saw the first one that I've ever seen like two or three weeks ago. I was in Hillsboro and I saw which is just a crappy. Little Town in New Hampshire. Sure in the middle of nowhere. Basically it's a nice Taco place that sells tacos for crypto currency. In fact we're going there tomorrow. For crypto meet up but when the last time I was in Hillsborough I saw like one of those kind of work. Van Looking vans But it had the prime smiley face on the side of it. Didn't have the word Amazon on it but it was obviously their logo and one of the the things that they've been working on is rolling out their own delivery trucks because what they've been doing is until recently they've been contracting with the United States. Postal Postal Service Conan are Tuesday night co host. He delivers for the US. P. S. and he works on Sunday normally don't have postal service on Sunday right like that's not the postal service but the postal service is on the roads on Sunday exclusively delivering. That's all they do on Sunday. Now I know I know that in Seattle title They have a whole boatload of subcontractors people who own their own pickup truck or van or whatever doing is that what they're going to those contractors and they're saying all right. We want you to be our Amazon prime. Or whatever delivery guy and so they're giving those guys the opportunity to you sort of franchise if you will become an Amazon delivery person like officially get the logo and go all in. And so. That's the last I heard was that they we're kind of rolling out these trucks or whatever turns out they must have got a fleet of Airlines Moving packages around the story from the verge. They've been steadily growing their logistics operation over the last decade and it now delivers more than half of all Amazon packages in the United States. According to an estimate for Morgan Stanley published just last week and reported by C. Z.. Lord now how many packages is that. That's a lot right Amazon. I imagine it's a lot but I would like a number. I don't know we'll we'll fussy. We find that out here. But it's a staggering increase of the course of the last few years it means Amazon which now operates its own freighters and cargo planes is accelerating its push to own entire logistics chain and end its relationship with companies like Fedex and ups. So that's their goal will end end the US post office presumably. Yeah So their goal is to cut out those people from the picture. They WANNA be able to send the package straight from the shipping center to people who are or associated with Amazon in their hands to the end. Customer and at the current rate Amazon is set to pass both Fedex and ups in US package volume with the company currently delivering two point. Five billion packages per year compared to Fedex is three billion and ups is four point seven billion. I love it Amazon. Prime costs me light. What thirteen bucks a month or something and everything gets shipped to me for free? No additional charge. I've never had Amazon contact me and say that my package couldn't be delivered because there was snow on the ground. No but I have had Where you know you check on your orders and it's like Oh your shipment is being delayed? It was held up in you. You know wherever right some city or whatever and it'll be delayed for like a day or something like that but without being delivered by Fedex or I don't know it's just when you go to the tracking tab and your your orders on your Amazon account to yeah. Amazon is an absolute behemoth. They're able to do things no other Entity can do and they deliver booze in the state of Washington where it's illegal to deliver booze I don't know how they've served. They've achieved some sort of exemption within lost somebody. I'm sure they were like who hasn't had the idea for booze delivery service I of yeah right now. I've been thinking about to do it. You know and there are. There are a couple of websites that popped up that. We're trying to do this right once. Called like drizzly. The IR is L. L. Y.. They're trying to do this but Amazon cannot only deliver booze they can deliver it in under an hour in Seattle Washington. Yeah you get a lie or blue. It'll show up in an hour. So yeah these guys are just getting started. Apparently don't they use the drones for delivery services in Seattle as well. I don't know if they do that yet. But it's coming eight five five four five zero three seven three three maybe all of this means that we can ultimately get rid of the United States. Postal Service. I wish they should just just start doing mail service. Would it be nice to wake up in the morning whenever you want and work whenever you feel like it jake women under your terms. Instead of societies. Please be completely freeman. 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Did you find it to be worth it. I mean as a guy who knows how to acquire files of any TV program. No but I did. I actually had canceled my prime and just had a regular Amazon account. I know that's unheard of. You can do that yeah you can. cancelled my prime And then I actually resubscribe to prime just so I could watch this show on the night that it drops right because I'd have to wait arguably a day before quality files which show up you know in the usual place Shaw Fan so yeah I mean I you know and also to it. This was the first for this particular show where it was going to be commercial free And also the only thing with Amazon they put commercials well no but previously. It wasn't an Amazon program. The first season the first season. That's got the the Amazon money and so and you can tell right away. The special effects are cooler right. The interested you know. It's a better production overall because now it's got the Amazon. Is it different different. Where so you know normally if you're creating and television program and there's commercial breaks there's usually like me little cliffhangers during the show like somebody's about to get killed but then they get out of it right like after the commercial break or whatever? Does that kind of change. Now that they don't have commercial breaks is it like changed the structure. I believe it does because now if you were going going to say have this particular season in syndication later on right like running on some network television independent TV somebody later I like you know but I will say what they did. Well let me finish my thought on that is the commercial breaks would be not sort of intuitive. I like you're saying When they write these programs they would write in a little bit of a cliffhanger like El Nino the commercials coming up? Because someone's in jeopardy you know yeah I it's GonNa to be like the commercial breaks are going to be more abrupt. You know when this airs on regular ask TV or whatever if it ever right. But I will say what they did. Do because 'cause I binge watched the entire season they played commercials in between episodes right so I was using the Amazon you. You are subscriber. They're still playing at S- still plan adds interesting in between episodes. I can't say in fact. When are they advertising only Amazon thing? They are okay. Well that's yeah so like I saw commercials for Amazon television programs other Amazon services. You know that kind of thank but only in between the episodes okay and because I was using the web player you know there's no remote involved so it just plays the next episode the next next episode. What did Kinda Piss me off? A little bit was the web player stopped after like episode seven. It just didn't go to episode eight for some reason it probably a jurist asleep but before we dig further into it. Let's go to the phones. We got dodger colleen dodger. You're on free talk. Live Hello Ladies and gentlemen Can you hear me. I'm not used to talking on my headset so A- At either way I don't live in a big metro area. I live in a metro area but It it just Kinda surprised me when when in when you said that you saw prime truck for the first time you know I I I I do construction and so you know I I go sh you know one day. I'll be that one end of town some some other time I might be out in the sticks in the middle of nowhere and it seems like something that Our customers all have in common they all must have Amazon prime. Hi and for example I WANNA say Friday. I You you know the job site that I was working at literally had an Amazon prime truck show up the US. Postal Service show up and Fedex show up all all with Amazon customers porch. Yeah it's Well I mean it was weird for me when I first Saw saw those Mail vans on Sundays. You Know I. I normally don't work Sundays but then I started seeing the mail vans and then now I I see these these prime trucks. I can't go a day without Saying at least one of them you know in those like Work trucks so I just. I just thought it was Kinda weird that in one day they had a private vehicle. I forgot if it was you. UPS UPS or Fedex but they had one of them trucks and The United States Postal Service all dropping packages on these people's dorm using I mean it makes. Ah Well it makes sense. It's the holiday season and so you know Like me I do all of my holiday shopping On Amazon. Because I just don't feel like going out stores and dealing with that stuff granted i. I don't have a prime membership so I just usually have to deal with the postal service or UPS OR FEDEX or agree would be more efficient. If instead of getting three delivery trucks out there to this person's house they just had to send one. That's what they're working. It was their own truck. I've achieved two of the three. I have not achieved the TRIFECTA. I've had the. US post office deliver something from Amazon on the same day a couple of hours apart from ups also delivering me. Something from Amin here in Kenya. Okay right 'cause I haven't seen a prime truck in keene yet right. I haven't I haven't achieved the TRIFECTA but now I have something to shoot for well living in the woods so I mean it may be a little bit before we start seeing prime trucks. Which is why I was surprised is to see one in little old hillsborough? Yeah isn't hillsborough more in the woods. Then Cain it is but it's closer to Concord. Oh yeah that's true okay. Well Amazon certainly delivers a bunch of stuff. Two and a half billion and a half billion catches. That's Amazon's delivery. Then you add in you go to Fedex three billion. UPS UPS four point seven and they're not talking about the amount. I don't think they're talking about saying Fedex had three billion Amazon packages. It's not clear that I don't think that's what they're saying. So it sounds like Amazon's volume is going to eclipse Fedex as volume at some point. Relatively soon right I'm assuming they're figures for Fedex and ups mix Hodel. Yeah well dodgers either. So what we're thinking here. Is that Amazon on by itself is clearly delivering two and a half billion packages right but fed. Yeah but Fedex and ups they deliver stuff from like Ip see and wish dot com and other random places as does the USPS. Some portion of the packages. They're delivering aren't actually from Amazon. So Amazon is probably delivering most of their own unpack it. That's what they're saying. That was the first claim in the story according to CNBC Amazon is now delivering more than half of their own packages which means it remainder of them less than Hatha Eh are being delivered totally by USPS Fedex and ups so Amazon has more than half and the other less than half is being delivered by the remainder of those companies so we can assume like five billion or something like that if roughly definitely. Yeah so I know that the US would just go back to delivering like market basket. Flyers is there's nothing nobody wants to people's mailboxes. But what will ups and Fedex to volumes. Go down big time. They're in trouble it already has. They're missing out on two point. Five Billion Leeann packages. They could be shipping. Well it's going to be tragic for them. Of course I've never known either of them to be especially reliable when it comes to package package delivery services. I've had things get delayed by weeks at a time. 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They missed delivered packages to him. That were delivered him. He ordered he ordered one item him and he received his item but he got two extra items to extra packages but they had his shipping label on them and he did them. That's obviously the big problem. Nationwide for people that are missing Something it's it's fun boss Bill from Fort Extra. I don't see received. I just made mention of it this morning because he thought it was kind of odd. I don't know what he's GonNa do with the extra. You know normally what you do. Is You contact the shipper or you contact contact embassy according to the shipper there his. They've got his name. I see what you're saying. But if you order something down deliver something to labeling what am I usually the the right thing would be to call the company or you know reach out to customer service and say hey. I didn't order this stuff. What do you want me to do with it? And then they'll you there either. Say Oh well you know. We'll have you ship it back. We'll ship you label. We appreciate it or just keep it. We screwed up usually. It'll be one of the one of the two things because they all had his name on it. That was envoy why he got was the people actually put those labels on or just slamming this stuff out and could care less work. Is it possible that somebody ordered them as a gift for him. Because that's also something you can do. You know we might find that out tomorrow on his show so I never thought of that. Anyway are you. Do you mind a quick little poem for you. Know you have Are you where I'm not watching. Do you have red hair tonight. Yes okay I'm tired go ahead okay. Oh no no no. Don't be scared those red-headed gals gals they stick together like glue. You tell a secret to one. You've told the other one too. They run around town thinking. They're so damn cool. How easy they forget yeah? Nobody liked him in school. I Dunno nice poem or not I I don't think it's actually a third versus song. The redheaded wife Song that I wrote. That's just the third verse but I thought it'd be Kinda Fun Aureus and she's the right at the day probably yesterday too but anyway there you go all right my going great night you so so much for the call. He's a poet and I didn't know it clearly it's about time he made a rhyme. Let's keep going. We've got mortified penguin calling via the discord cord lining discord dot freetalklive dot com pink. What's on your mind? Yeah that was a little sweet com But I wanted to call. I don't know I was too. I know but I heard you talking about the Amazon subject and for guys for a bunch of guys talk about gals talk about current events. And just because where you're located you might be a little bit behind the Times. So I'm I live in the city kind of urban a huge major city but an urban setting. Yeah I gotta say I do for a living the different things that I do take me to different neighborhoods and I mean you are. Just the whole world issues blanketed in these blue Mercedes Benz. It's like sprinter vans. These Amazon vans running logistics for the entire world. I mean they're just going up and down every neighborhood every street. Wow Are you being Ramallah core. They actually driving around Mercedes. Delivery spin events they got happened. Line Little Cargo van sure. And they're all the exact same thing but the fresh Amazon paint job the Amazon color. Oh yeah and I still see Post a post office on Sunday so they must be using that to supplement and they must be doing some other stuff but they absolutely absolutely the whole world. They'll deliver the smallest to you. One thing at a time yes to grow. We're on the outskirts here. We're not seeing it. We're out in the woods literally here and I actually pull it the CNBC story. Because the verge cited that. And there's more information here according to Morgan Stanley. Which is the company that estimated? And that's all we have here's estimates. They they are the ones who estimated the two point five billion packages being carried by Amazon And then you've got Three billion packages at Fedex four point seven at ups they say we see more of this going forward as our new bottom-up US package model assumes Amazon Amazon D- logistics US packages grow at sixty eight percent growth rate from from twenty eighteen to twenty two or twenty twenty two. That would put Amazon Amazon. Logistics at six point five billion packages per year by two thousand twenty two according to the firm. which would far exceed its estimate for? UPS at five billion and Fedex. At three point four per year to us they say Amazon Amazon has just ticks is already large scale Ale and with a fleet one fifth the size of competitors. So you're seeing Amazon trucks everywhere mortified penguin. But they're saying there's still still a fraction of the size as far as the fleet is concerned then these other competitors but yet they're doing a tremendous amount of volume for being a fifth of the size so that says to me there are way more efficient yes than than ups. Fedex well and it sounds to me like they're currently filling in the gaps of efficiency. Hey that exist. Because they're using the other two service right so this is referred to in the technology industry is like the last mile right. You want coverage to the areas where those other two companies aren't real good at right so those are the first areas you WANNA filling. According to this they say logistics of Amazon is is more focused than its competitors on densely populated areas. According to Morgan Stanley's estimate about sixty one percent of their packet volumes are from suburban areas twenty eight percent percent from urban areas and just eleven percent are from rural which means Amazon Amazon logistics rural focus is about half of its competitors as the rest of the industry three typically derives about twenty percent of their package volume from rural so right now Amazon is focusing on the city's in the suburban areas in their leaving out Rural for the moment it sounds. Sounds like that's amazing. That's probably the more sensible way to do it. The costs more gas to go out in the woods. Yeah that's true just off the US. Yeah what they're able to do with the distribution centres all over the place and in outskirts these areas if they're dense enough you're getting one day shipping on everything from Watch watch. Batteries two shampoos to New Sites for your pistol to got anything. You want one day delivery. And they've got everything it's it's incredible and obviously you couldn't pull that off in a rural area but they've they've really proved they're really just supplying the whole world is like the jetsons with little all tubes that deliver whatever you wanted like. It's kind of in a rural area settles. I forgot to order a Halloween costume until like the last minute and the half of the outfit came the very next day and I ordered it at like two o'clock in the morning so technically it came the same day while the rest of it didn't the rest of it took two days which was still within the timeframe that I needed it but being ruled did it keep me from receiving that package same day. That's amazing yeah. Maybe they had it in one of their distribution centers in cocker her. I heard there's one in Nashua and I know there's definitely one in in Massachusetts. Yeah okay most of of my parcells travel through Massachusetts. Occasionally they'll come through Vermont somehow by way of like must be something. I'm not sure interesting could go ahead. It's amazing they've really gone to dave replace. Today should be now most most places have one day shipping thing and there's no minimum amount so you anything they've got so many fans all over the place you can order a smaller things you want. Just drop it by one of these little Bubble ooh envelopes. And whenever you need you get it the next day. There's no like oh you gotta spend thirty five dollars for the for the free prime shipping. Now I mean it's there whatever. It is very cool. Well mortified thanks so much for the call anything that can do to speed up the delivery service. I'm totally on board with that because. USPS IS PS sucks. Oh yeah and it has real time so if Amazon could just start delivering mail that would be great. Well I think Isn't that like the only only thing that the USPS says that these other parcels can't carry letters. I don't know do they say they can't. It cannot carry something under under a dollar. Oh interest if you let it costs more than a dollar you can you can give it to Amazon or ups or whatever fascinating and it would get there faster. I've had a tremendous issues getting things here from the state of Mississippi which understandably that's quite a good distance but three or four weeks go check out FREETALKLIVE DOT COM com for the full archive going back more than ten years and our Caputo. Cho is the world's foremost conference for voluntary as thinkers and activists held and Beautiful Acapulco Mexico Co share ideas and how to live free and escape the clutches of the State. Their unparalleled lineup of speakers will discuss entrepreneurship. Investments Politics Philosophy health sustainability osteen ability lifestyles and personal relationships. Stay in a world. 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Down and Sydney Is really the first superstar of the Digital Age If you go back historically quickly Gordie Howe and Maurice Rashard played in Sixteen League that was basically They with experienced either in the arena or by radio or you know with the emergence of television maybe once a week and Canada and eh US markets and you just compare that to Sydney who you can watch every one of his games James at any time you like You know any any Chil- Stanley Cup playoff games are seen in China So you could take all the previous superstars in the NHL in combined. They wouldn't have been seen as much as Sydney has what they wouldn't have been seen by an audience that big and the other thing is that because because of that accessibility ability players of Young players have the ability to study. Sit the need game and you know my experience You know covered hockey for thirty years. The generation of players today like Jackie. Jackie Jackie was the first tech and last year's draft. He was four years old when Sydney made his debut in the NHL and he's grown up watching video all the players now Teenage players junior players. They spend as much time watching in video as they do on the ice and Sydney's aspirational figure. It's not like the team is six foot six air you you know. And and not like Dino's Chehreh. You can't really go to school on his game but Sydney is actually the template For for AH generation of players and And I don't say that he's the best player ever. I wouldn't make that case I thank. You had the greatest influence on the most people you say that the game has been divided into two errors before and after Sidney crosby arrived in two thousand thousand five tell me about each one very briefly the NHL game in in the really the game that other levels In in North America had sort of. It's sort of read some that some some level of inertia was it was a very tough game To to to play a very tough game to watch at times of very low scoring There wasn't a great deal of entertainment value in there. There wasn't as much speed or flow in after the lockout in two thousand five then H. L. cancelled season The the rules were reject and the game was opened up and two line. Offside it's taken out. And all of a sudden there was all this speed was introduced into the game. The game now has played at a faster pace of far faster pace than and anything that came before it You Know I. It's really two very different styles of play if you watch video from game game in in the fifties their players taking ninety seconds shifts or even even longer and that's just just impossible at the pace that the game is played now It is a game that's played at a dead sprint and in previous eras that time it was like a wall we only have You know to put this into perspective. When you're talking about Sidney crosby three Stanley Cups two Olympic gold medals and a World Cup? And yet you said something that I thought was really true. And that if he hadn't changed the league he might expect a longer career explain. Explain what you're talking about well with the game having sped up as much as it has In in the nature of Sydney's game game I I can tell you when I first saw it predates all these changes He was playing at a international tournament in the Czech Republic in two thousand three and the scouts that I talked to said that they love his game because he wasn't afraid and to go into the danger. Dangerous air areas on the ice. The black ice. is they call it You know and and really he winning. They're not just fearlessly but even recklessly The the one thing with the greater speed that's been brought to the game. Is that the level of contact The the force of contact in the game again has has multiplied really and we're seeing so many traumatic injuries Head injuries in other other types of injuries but particularly concussions. There weren't there even back in the days when players played without helmets And it's it's simply a function of of objects moving faster on on the ice and and the collisions. Collisions are tremendously hard There there's there are fewer There there's UH less of a number of of contact hits now compared to the fifties or sixties or seventies but just the level of contact the force and speed involved. It's nothing that they'd ever seen. Before and Sydney to play his game put could himself has put himself. You know in in the line of harm he takes risks he doesn't play on the perimeter and In that really opened my to to some big hits and and I don't WanNa say ah having concussion shoes what's inevitable. But it wasn't surprising we only have a couple of minutes left. It's because you talk about in your book about how the game is played today and you start assessing fighting and cautions like you. Just did you find it interesting. That the commissioner her in the late generally speaking does not acknowledge about the concussion issue to the degree maybe the NFL does. I mean they fought that you know that is an issue in the national hockey. He League when it obviously is well. I think they're NHL has dragged their skates. It's somewhat in addressing Addressing concussion issues But what I would say is When Sydney spent a season calendar year and more on the sidelines with concussion issues? Skinny till did actually go out and say okay. There's if we lose our games best player because of concussions because of post concussion syndrome that we're doing something wrong. We have to protect the players in our best assets so even UNMACHT Coun- in Sydney has had influence in the management Of of the game and and the rules that are tied to but I. Let's say that. Then he tells come come away on this but not conferring us and a little bit over a minute. What do you want people to take away from this book there? I think that I think that if people could take away at a single player you can have a degree of influence From very unlikely beginning beginning came from an area in Nova Scotia that just hadn't produced a lot of talent That didn't really have have material support that came from a pretty hard scrabble. Background and through belief and success exc some innate talent and he made himself into the most important player of the game and the most important player to so many players in the game. You happy with the way. This book came out in about twenty seconds. I'm not happy that he's on the sidelines with an injury rate. Yeah Yeah like you that that no I. I'm really quite happy. I it's funny. I followed a reported on Sydney for half his lifetime. Now he's thirty two and like I say I talked to him back in two thousand tree Right after his sixteenth birthday here the week of the sixteenth birthday. So I feel like I've been. This is almost two decades project for me. I WanNa thank you very much for sharing your thoughts. What's about this book and I hope people will take taking a look at it? Take care and come back and visit with us again gear. Absolutely thank you so much for having we continue can you with more of you and sports byline are you an active stock market investor. Will then you know these three key words Bob sell hold. Those three magic words can make or lose you money in the stock market. What have we can show you a time-tested tool that's been helping being stock market? Investors succeed for over thirty years. It's called vector fast and amazing system designed to make smart investing easy. 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Mark Grant joins us on Sports. byline former major your league pitcher and now the color analyst for the PADRES television network and I met mark when he was pitching for the giants drafted him in the first round mark. I let me take back to Joliet Illinois. Tell me a little bit about growing up there and playing baseball. I'll tell you what ron first of all. Thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to be with you and talks and ball you know just you mentioning Joliet and My amateur days brings US filed on my face because I had nothing but great memories there Often often little league Pony League Colt leg. High School paid some great friends that I still keep in touch today and just had tremendous success. You know with success. You know you you bree confidence and you know I pretty much knew when I was ten eleven years old that I wanted to pursue a career in baseball. You know it's I was lucky enough to stay healthy because they had a great arm and there were older players in high school when I was like a little league in twenty that. We're getting drafted. So I said you know. Hey if if I stay healthy it have some success you know. Why can't that be me get drafted? And what do you know Nineteen eighty-one on cable on my senior year of High School Julia Catholic and I was following the footsteps of my idol growing up Bill Gullickson Who was drafted by the Expos? Didn't it might be seventy seven so now kind of on my way but nothing but great memories growing up as an amateur joliet. I played high school baseball and my teen years. There's just down the road from Joliet that was in ran tool Illinois where ask for space at canoed air force base and what I remember the most about is those thunderstorms will be rolling across the cornfields. When you are trying to play a baseball what rod you do as as well as anybody try? It doesn't matter how cold or hot it was. We played I remember running into the springtime. You know it felt like he was twenty degrees but it was probably you know the low forties mid forties and We played man if it was dry. We we played My High School we were forty five and nine Joliet Catholic By coach Jackson Manzke. He's scheduled doubleheaders every weekend We played as much as we could and now I know the Hsa He has the Illinois High School Sports Association Scholastic Association has limits. The Games you can play but Yeah if it was dry we played bill Gullickson. Tell me what what is it was about him that you really really liked it. He became an idol to you. The guy was a bulldog in high school. I remember back then no Internet. We just just Eh Gillian Herald News. I pick up the Herald News and find out about what billy did And then of course the school joy county. I wanted to go there. My Dad by DAD said you go to three places. You've got three places you can choose from Joliet West Jones travel for Providence High School in New Lenox and I wanted to go to Joliet Catholic because because I was always going there to football games the kid and the stadium was literally right down the street from my house. Right grew up Maybe a few hundred yards away from my high school from my My home so you know. I got the job Catholic when I was a kid and I told my dad I wanted to go there and partly because you know Bill Alex and went there and they always had a nice baseball program but His success you know we all have people we look up to throwing up my my number for one person. I looked up to of course my dad he was my coach. Little League inscribed was always there taught me how to pitch taught me the great game of baseball and then You know people who actually do it like Bill Gullickson. I wanted to follow in his footsteps and Do it was quite a career. It was a lot of billionaire friends. Hey He realizes what impact he wasn't my career. You were drafted out of high school by the giants as I mentioned and you reach the majors at twenty after blowing flowing through the miners. Were you ready to play Major League baseball at that age. Of course I was. I wasn't gonNA say no. That's a great point ride. I think looking back I probably could've used more seasoning in the minor leagues You know Frank Robinson was my manager at the time and I tell you what I know. I'm going off on a little tangent here but I had the utmost respect just loved frank as a twenty year old pitching in the big leagues for a hall of Famer and MVP in both leagues and being able to see you know. Work with Frank Robinson each and every day was a treat for me as a twenty year old. Yeah but I probably could've used a full year at Triple A.. I got three starts under my belt. In nineteen eighty four was throwing the ball well. They needed a fifth starter. I got called up My debut April twenty seven. So you know it was a learning experience and but looking back on. It was ready. Probably not I was. I'll well I'll be the first word that thrower I wasn't a pitcher threw the ball extremely hard My secondary pitch was a curve ball which I couldn't locate to save in my life but when I got called up I was going to make the most of it and I You know I took my loves my first year. That's for sure. I like the comment you made. Because it was a very honest assessment. You said I thought with my ascension to the big leagues so quickly at a young age and with the stuff I had I would achieve a little bit more than I actually did. That's a very that's a very straightforward response When you think back upon your career how do you look upon it? You know what I I- disappointment When I came up you know everybody? You know when you're drafted number for one and you have a big arm like I did. There's a lot of expectations and you see the young kids coming up the big leagues back when I was coming to Dwight Gooden Even go back I. I you know Nolan Ryan who came up very very young age Couple farley inbetween come up and but I think that my career for me personally was kind of a disappointment because I had expectations been draft choice this and being a hard thrower and having a live arm then I i. I want to win a CY young award. I wanted to be on a world championship team. I want they'll be an all star in and have a long career But then again I look at it. Ron Is if if I didn't have the career that I had I probably wouldn't be in the position. I am now I love my job now. I got a great opportunity here in San Diego. I've been here you know. Next year. We may twenty fifth season doing PADRES games and you know if I let's just fifteen sixteen years in the big leagues and accomplish all those things you know. Maybe I'm not sitting here right now doing the job right now but because of the career I had You know I'm a very blessed very lucky to be able to pitch the as far as expectations. I think personally I feel short of what I should accomplish. That the big league level. That's very honest of you to say. Hey let me ask you about Frank Robinson because being here in San Francisco when he was as the manager of the team frank was somewhat tanker. Is I guess you could say that. But what I have always found about hall of Famers who go into managing mark. Is that they so you know obviously were outstanding and so therefore they have a standard not only for themselves but also for others and it's hard for them. It's hard to manage players that don't approach the game or work as hard as they did. Did you find that to be the case with Frank. I think that is a fair assessment and other managers to through the years. And I'm going way back and I know you had remember Ted Williams Kinda the same way you know. Here's a hall of Famer Triple Crown winner. Who who who tried to manage Knows the game of baseball but you know really had a tough time of of looking at players and That weren't as talented. Maybe and didn't have the success that he expected so so frank. I think we kind of like that. But you know once you got to know Frank Guy was a sweetheart of a man. a gentle giant. But I'll tell you what ron he was intimidating. I being a baseball fan growing up. I knew my baseball. and Ed I knew exactly Frank Robinson was and I was very intimidated by Frank. It was yes sir. No Sir and But I love being around him just because he was Frank Robinson and I was a baseball fan and then now I found myself pitching for the hall of fame manager which was great. We have two minutes before we have to break. I remember talking talking to Bob. Murray the owner of the giants one time about the hiring of Frank Robinson and mark he said to me. He said he wasn't my first choice. He wasn't my second. He was my third choice. Oh he's but he said that was only because I had not been initiated to talking to African Americans about position of being a manager but once I did I realized he was the right man for the team. I thought that was very insightful. For mob I love Frank I love Mr Laurie. I got a chance to meet him When he was in fact when I was drafted he was owner? The ball club and You know what Frank Robinson was one of the best baseball minds that I'd been around. I learned a lot from the way He you know Work the ball game the way he managed to ballgame You can handle the staff with the best and you know granted. He really didn't have the best talented teams all those two years but you know he was a man. It didn't matter if they were or if we were in third place last-place whatever he managed like he was the last game of the season and they they needed the winner so but he was It was quite an asset. Not only to the San Francisco giants what he did but of course to the game of baseball a man I With the utmost respect and it was it was sad. I got a chance to see Frank Couple of years ago dodger stadium. And it's funny. Because every time I saw frank he would he he kinda looked at me and shake his head and looked down to the ground. Because you know what if it wasn't for you she'll be manager and that was always a lie and I'm sure he passed. That line had to a lot of guys but you know what he was a good man. I miss him dearly. We're talking baseball with Mark Grant Former Major League pitcher and now color analyst for the padres. He's television network. 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And I looked down. And it's just ted down down at the other end and I wanted to come down and talk to him and interview him and everything but I also knew he could. He could bite your head off if he wanted to but I waited I and I slipped down and gave me those. What the Hell do you want looks and I said Ted? I got a question I understand bone fishing in Florida. It just outstanding. His eyes lit up mark and for four minutes. He talked with me and then he said to me anytime you want to talk. Just let me. We know and every time I went to the stadium. He was very very kind to me but I found that fascinating about him. I found something that he had a passion for and we shared it in a conversation conversation. Yeah you know what I think about that Ted Williams being Ted Williams and whoever's in baseball for a long time and hall of Famer credentials like that. AH IT Kinda I don't WanNA say gets old. But you know people ask the same question all the time and You just get repetitive. And for somebody like Patterson even like for you rod for me you know if somebody came up to me and asked me a question other than baseball and they knew that was a a passion of mine because that would it sparked my interest and you get a different reaction but I think that's that's a great story about knowing and that's that's you doing your homework to That that to me is not just looking at a guy's career and look at it numbers talking about that. That's that's someone like yourself digging deep and finding the person and Ted Williams other than baseball. What makes him tick so I knew he was a sportsman Big Time fisherman and That's a great story. He was on the American experience experience. The one with Kurt Gowdy ABC. For a long time. And so I knew that about him. And the other thing is is that I've always found bounded interviewing athletes that the people out there listening they can't relate to hitting a ninety five mile. An hour fastball sinking. A three point shot but they relate to the human aspect back and I think that's always been important for me to show them that human side of the athlete so they get to know the total picture. Yeah that's the thing you know. I think it's human nature for you even as a kid growing up being a fan I would watch a game and and I just know these guys or ladies if they're playing Sports like tennis. I was the big fan growing up. I watched I watched women's tennis. I watched You know track and field women men. It didn't matter. I just sports but men and women like when we watch them on TV we just think you know as a youngster young. They're just athletes That's all they do but there is a human side and I think that's what's refreshing Coletta. Everybody know and Kinda dig deep down to find out what those people are like. You were traded to the padres on July fourth one thousand nine hundred eighty seven and being traded raided. When you're young can either be a godsend or shocking? How did you look upon it? I think it was a godsend round because with the giants Roger Craig was our manager Al Rosen was our general manager and I. It was a combination to where they liked veteran. Guys I was. I was on a veteran pitcher. I didn't have much success. Up to that point point. They wanted to have some Some veteran leadership in the rotation so they got Dave Vecchi they also got an MVP and Kevin Mitchell. So I went to the padres with Chris. Brown Teeth Comstock Mark Davis so the reason why it was good for me is that he got a chance to start in the rotation I got plenty of chances. Larry Bowa gave me the ball once every five days And then Jack Mckee and took over when he was fired and I then went to the bullpen. And it Kinda AH HA. NFC House bullpen. To answer your question. It was probably one of the best things that ever happened from my career. How did you get the nickname mud? tell you You know. Remember the late Danny. Ozark was on frank third base coach Nineteen eighty-four and my first big league spring training majorly camp at Scottsdale over Indian school and Hayden in Indian school. Is that where the park was right. There was yeah yeah where they had the four fields before we move over to Scottsdale Stadium. And we're doing. PFP pitched trilling practice. Danielle ARC was overseeing covered first base and I covered first base and he said way to go and I was like. Oh yeah I said I know exactly what you're talking about Jim. uh-huh tech rent and So he just always started calling me that in Being a veteran guys baseball like he is and You know being around for as long as I I I kind of took Took that to heart and Kinda you know was flattered that he would Start calling me that. And then he after calling me that other people would hear him. And then it just kind of snowballed. Aw That's how it all came about. You had it stops also in Seattle and also with the Atlanta Braves Houston in Colorado and I thought this comment from you is interesting thing I had to learn how to cope with the downfalls of being demoted while still trying to compete at a level to get back to the big time that cannot be an easy situation relation. How did you deal with the ups and downs? Yeah it's not easy at all because Alter my amateur career and even in the minor leagues I had tons of success and yeah then for the first time you know I had surgery for first of all. You don't think you're never GONNA get hurt. You think you're invincible. Especially if the young player young pitcher so you know now so you know I got hurt had surgery with the braves in ninety one That was the year they went to the world series. I didn't pitch so that was a bummer. So then the next year you know had to start out in the minor leagues and I'm like wow you know it's got its gut check time right now. What am I gonNA do? I'm GonNa just sit back and so am I gonNA try to battle back and got the best shape of my career. Got My back in shape and eventually made my way back up to Seattle in nineteen eighty two and Pitch decently and then you know went out because because Houston in Colorado where kind of went downhill in Colorado and But you know I was it was it was a good experience and Kinda made me stronger being able to experience that make it back to the big leagues. Eight Major League Big League seasons with six teams and when you were asked asked about the highlight of your career. I still laugh when I read this. I had a one two three inning back in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine that I recall. I can't remember it was July or August. Yeah I think it was a weekend series. It was a Friday night and it was like the bottom of the order. It was like seven eight nine hitters. 'cause pitcher was definitely the ninth theater. So but no you know what I have found something out longtime ago. I it's just my personality. You know you gotTa have a personality in life you gotTa. They're things that takes Thursday. Don't get me wrong. I mean I I had a passion when I pitched I. I was a competitor. I you know when I got mad I wanted to fight and I think maybe that was my downfall. I was my own worst standings trying too hard and But I think I know when to have a good time as well Because you know after all it is baseball it was my living living. I made the most of it. I worked my tail off to try to stay healthy and safe the big league level. But you don't want it was time to have fun. You know you have fun and That's that's assist have always been. Well you summed it up correctly by saying I learned to take my job seriously but not take myself too seriously here. The has fun. I mean. That's you know all when I was growing up in coming up in the minor. Lays you meet the big league guys and you find out that you know they're just like you They have to work just as hard. Maybe some guys are more talented than you. But the guys that I gravitated to and loved what are the guys that had the great sets of Uber And two of my dearest friends in the game are Mike. Rubio dwayne hyper and I think the world of those guys. Those guys are like big brothers to me When I got called up to the giants in eighty four as you mentioned before I was twenty years old? They were thirty two and thirty four and Dan. You know these veteran guys were taking care of me and showed me the ropes and telling me what to do and what not to do and how to be a bigger so but they had a great sense of humor. They were serious when it came to baseball. Tell you what when when it was time to have fun they were the best. I WanNa touch your broadcasting career. It seemed like to to me is I thought about it and read all the things and how you approached it when you were injured you did a season of color analyst play by play I think it was with the cubs organization nation in Iowa. And when I think about that you must have thought at some point I need to make a transition after I stopped playing baseball so you started preparing. I'm for that transition. Am I correct in that observation. Absolutely you just out the head Rod. I pretty much knew that I was towards the end of my career. I had had a couple of injuries. I got hurt in Des Moines in Nineteen ninety-five House with the Iowa cubs. My dream was to be a Chicago Cub. I grew up Joliet. I grew up big time cubs fan so I thought my last goal round. Hey sign with the cubs in a chance to pitch as a cub at Wrigley. That never happened. But when I was in Iowa I got hurt again. My shoulder and Dean Ellis was the radio play by play guy. I just sweetheart of a Guy Gentlemen are pro and he became a friend because he traveled with us and did the Games on radio so I was hurt and he said he might once you know you know you get your workout. That'd before the game and Come on up to the booth and sit with me. We'll talk the ball. I serious he goes. Yeah come on up because he worked by himself. I said I'd be more than happy. The two thank you so I went up there and you know doing a little color and stuff like that so I forgot what game it was who come back from a break and You know he says Dean L. Here Nashville Tennessee Iowa cubs game of a three-game series. And we go to the third inning and here to bring you the play by I play it would but it was a great experience and it was something that I always wanted to try and know that my career when I should say when my career comes to an end You know this would be a great gig. This would be something that would be really really really cool to do and That was pretty much the start of it you want said I think part of being a color analyst bringing a little color to the broadcast. Or we're telecast how would you describe that style of yours. I kinda pushed the envelope. I'll admit that I've not your cookie cutter. I'm I'm not your cookie cutter color analyst. It's just what it is. You add some color to the broadcast or telecast I think that's the job you know when when I do a game aim Ron. I tried to teach I try to Tell what's happening and then I wanNA have the You're maybe chuckle a little bit or have a little fun and I think if you do those three things. I think you're doing a pretty good job so my style is kind and like yeah. I'm serious about my job and I'm prepared the best I can but you know you know if you're going to be meat and potatoes baseball. One hundred percent of the time and the game has tended to. It's in the third inning. I mean I think you're gonNA drive yourself nuts and I. I think of like a player on the bench you know players on the bench. They're locked into the game. They're talking about the game but they talk about other things as well. They talk about what they had lunch that day. They talk about when they went to the mall. They talked about their off-season. They talk about their cruel for their wives. They talk about both. I mean you know it's like you know they That's what happens during a baseball game. And I think that kind of the way I go about my business. That's what I carry over into the broadcast cast booth and I think that's the best way to describe how I go about my business. We've got about ninety seconds left and I'd BE AMISS IF I didn't ask you about one of your broadcasting partners the man that I got to know respected immensely. Oh my Dick Enberg. Yeah yeah he is greatly missed the professor as I call them. I tell you what I never worked with a guy who was more prepared and wanted to put up the perfect telecast the perfect broadcast. He knew that it wouldn't happen but he was prepared repaired and he was the best craft and he was the voice of my childhood sports and I was very very lucky and very very to work with the man the hall of fame for many years when you look back on your life and your career to this particular point. Is there anything one thing. That's ingrained in Mark Grants. Mind that I'll never forget.

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