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Zay gang. Yes. It is I- miles cozy dailies like guys I have a request on behalf of Jackie. I you may have heard us read these ads which we typically like to do because these companies help us keep the show free. So you know, the way we keep this thing. Copacetic is we also allow people to know who are audiences. So what we are asking is that people go to the daily guys dot com and click on listener survey and take a quick survey. Just so we can let you know. This is this is gang is this who's rocking with us. So we know we can put the right ads on our show because I definitely don't want to be reading some stuff for crystal deodorant. Also, we are not going to sell your information from this survey rest assured, you know, how the show rocks were all about maintaining people's privacy. But we're also trying to make sure that we can keep the lights on here. So if you can do a solid just please go to the daily zeitgeist dot com and click on the listener survey, you will help us get a step closer to total podcast, add domination. And who knows what the next step is. But we want y'all to come with us now help us out. Thank you. Hello. The. And welcome to season fifty eight episode three of their days. I'd guys the podcast where we take a deep dive and America's share consciousness using the headlines box office reports TV ratings what's trending on people and soc Meads. It's Wednesday November twenty first two thousand eighteen months. Jack O'Brien AK twenty twenty twenty four hours ago. I wanted dailies Geist nothing to do in the Jack. I wanted to lease a guys just get to the F hor put me on the plane. Hurry. Hurry. Hurry before. I Myles gray. I can't control my fingers. I can't control my Brian Jacko. Oh, how right, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always probably my co host, Mr. miles gray. Where have passed I show these Alison with the hottest? Oh, this fair is of time we'd Zaid gang across the land. Mock Trump's Pau laugh and cry I would go further, but I cannot find a good instrumental version of that song. But on every version just asked me to do. Well, you're just hear that. Oh, right. Right. But that was from priante good dos. Thank you, Pat, brianca L dust for that one. And even hand wrote it improves that you did it. I get it. Thank you so much. Not only was that one of my favorite of your aka vocal performances. Right. As you started it era guests dog just left you to your. Yes. And I didn't even let me just you know, what it was the call of the wild. Yeah. Oh, also, I I read in your tweets that was actually a shadow to your footer lists boyfriend as you put it Cody crow foot or Crawford. It sounds like a loser to me. Yeah. Tell me get on Twitter. You know what actually a race because Priyanka you the one that's mid so you get the shine in your nice manicure in the photos shadow to your silver finger M I occa- was Melissa Jordan at sicne, and we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented comedian and writer Theresa up. It's me Theresa Lee. None of a roast for myself. Okay. There's maybe work as an AK. Let's hear. I look like I've definitely cried to chain smoker. Song? No way. What would that mean? Like, they're not good musicians. But chain smokers. Have you listened to their music? Yeah. I have very much like like sad drunk girl. But it's like trying to like, oh, man. Like, yeah. You're right. New York does make you sad. EDM ish, right? Yeah. Right. That's appropriate to look like the age. Well, you know, what every wave you will always find a young lady crying horizon inexplicably. I used to work a lot of raves. And that was like a trope you'd always see it was person beyond like, they cannot be considered right? When after reasonable rate like with all the way in their candy all over their neck and all that. So that's going to be my new Twitter handle inconsolable rape. Braver Theresa you've been here before. But we're going to get to know you even better in a moment. But first we're going to tell our listeners where we're talking about today. We're going to do a quick Google trend skim. We're going to say happy birthday to one of the most delicious and unhealthy lunch snacks that we all goes delicious. In least nutritious exactly I'm gonna talk about why it might have been wrong about the Havana thing the attacks the sound wave attacks or whatever magical attacks that are making diplomats heads explode. We're going to talk about the challenge to Nancy Pelosi. We're gonna talk about white supremacists. Actually being taken seriously by American law enforcement. We're gonna talk about a lot of and then we're going to wrap it up with just some talk about what we're up to for thanksgiving. Favorite thanksgiving memories? Favorite thanksgiving foods, just you know, all around reminiscence? But I as we like to ask our guests. What is something from your search history? That's really about who you are. Oh, I searched do you have to tip magicians? Because I went no I went to the magic castle. Although it's been it was for birthday. But I was like I've heard that when you walk around people. We'll do magic right at you. And I was like, oh, do I need to get cash because my friend's sister had like kind of covered, you know, the evening, but I was like twenty to bring tip and you don't because they can just take the money from Hockett using magic. Right. They they don't need money 'cause they have magic. But have you guys ever been? Oh, yeah. I have. Yeah. There is like a there's just like a magician. That's on the wall. Who I imagine was like a famous at the time and good and whatever I don't know him. I'm sorry, if I'm buttering culture magicians, but he's like in yellow faith and his picture is like all over the wall. Really? Yeah. It's like his name is like ching. Sue, and it's like a white guy with like, you know, like a braid and wearing Chinese garb and his his photos. I'll. Ever do like some stick from like the twenty. Old one. I'm sure he's dead. But so I don't I don't know. Maybe it's like, oh my gosh. But it's weird. It's like Florida. It's weird. No. That's definitely a problem. Pictures that are in the magic Hauser so funny because you also see what I feel like inspired even Joe blue like air because like you'll see like the overly done headshots. Or like, yeah, we're taking this very seriously nineteen Eighty-eight. But yet. Yeah. I can imagine. What that what that active is like like already I come from the orient gong in. Oh my God. So many. I feel like that was a big stereotype in early American culture like in the twentieth century that like Asian people are magical. Yeah. I mean, you know, they could be right. But we live in all all along and shit. Exactly. Empathy known to what it's going to magic. I think is actually just shame based culture. Do we think that people listeners know what the magic castle is magic castle is a restaurant and magic club and hotel. I believe also it's a club. Yeah. It's an actual castle off Frank Lin in Hollywood near Yamashiro restaurant, another great weird quasi Asian things. But it's a private club. You can't just pull up and put like you'll they're like someone is to be a member and the member can grant access to a group of people to go in there. And then it's like, you know, like getting on the haunted mansion like there's cool stuff inside. That's kinda freaky spooky and the piano that plays itself and on this kind of feels like a little bit like Disney ish because there's like secret. I mean, there's like different rooms you can go into magic just happens. But it yeah. It's cool. It's actually looks like I mean, you guys on this. But for people don't it looks like a castle. So go inside. And there's magicians just roaming around like magicians, hang out there. And then there's like ten different magicians doing up close magic shows, which is like you just sit across the table from them or like twenty eight we'll sit around wild magic. The last time. I went was one of the guys who consults for David Blaine. And then I learned a lot more about even how the magic trick game works. How like these like these like the producers work with the artists who they're like. Okay. You could take this trick on the road or whatever this French magician. But it's also weird 'cause they make your suit in there. You have to dress up. Yeah. And then by the end like everybody's just fucking smashed in there. Just looking at the end of a wedding. Yeah. So, you know, whatever. Yeah. It's fun though. It is I have discovered that I'm more of a fan of magic than a would have liked to believe. Yeah. I really liked the David Blaine special. And then I watched a magic for humans. Is crazy. Yeah. I like it. I like magic because I like I like getting light too. So it's there's something you we until you meet that magician was actually using magic, right? Yeah. This is a rom com. Oh, wait house up in a magician rump. Come yet. I'm sure there. Chris. Chris don't even. Called. Now you love me right now. You don't and. Yeah. I mean, one of the greatest magic tricks that magicians pull off is making a lot of women like them. Yeah. Which is strange. Yeah. There's oh the pattern is always like old school, magicians patter. Like us, always kinda cringe. You like smooth guy tile? Yeah. Yeah. Super pickup artists. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's like don't try and phone with me. Now. Oh, don't worry your ginger Vitus. And how Toda's says handed the trees, what is something you think is overrated. I think that living a longtime as overrated because I feel like not, and I don't mean this in a morbid way because I'm not like, oh, we should all die. But I just feel like. Society. We're always talking about like trying to live a long time. But then you're not actually you spend so much time trying to figure out how to live longer without actually just living. Right. Right. That makes sense. That makes sense. Like, there's a lot less living in a moment and more like, okay? How can I pack everything, you know, I want to do. So I can make more money. So I can buy more things than live longer. And then your life is over. And then you're like, oh, the whole point was just to live, and you didn't do that right near death experience or something. No. But I I like to think about death in life a lot. But I just think the whole idea because whenever you die like it's going to be now, you know, like, I think we think of death as far away thing where it's like, okay. When it happens. I'll have be able to look back on all this experience. I've banked it'd be like I have this. You won't like you're not. I mean, most of the time we're not looking back on even now I have we have whatever decades of experience, and we still think like there's so much more wherever you are you still going to have more. So I don't know. I just think it's not about like thinking too far in the future. We've hang by a thread, you know. And that's true. Like, you never know you never know when it is time to your physical existence to cease. Yes, I like to look at it. Yeah. Yeah. And also living along time is not necessarily good. I think I don't think we should all die young. But good. Tonight, inherently good. Yeah. Live super long. You're just gonna find more problems to deal with and you probably gonna have more good moments, but also more bad and all kind of balances out. So it's not inherently thing. I think if you're in a culture where people respect their elders, and like one a learn from you like learn all the things that you've learned that I think it can be like valuable. But right. Yeah. I think it can also suck. If you're just like put away in a home somewhere and rights, just like, and you're a burden to the people you love. Yeah. But I think that's more of a that can be a cultural thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What is something? You think is underrated. I think the smoothies are under. All right L. I bought a nineteen ninety seven I bought a blender and I. Super fancy this black and decker target is actually. Okay. It's not even not great. But. Yeah. BND from t- and making those S's nobody I've been making smoothies every day. And I don't know there's something really empowering about it. Because I don't even cook a lot. So just being able to make something that's as simple, even though I'm like, I could just eat fruit and yogurt separately. By put it in them. Like, I made a thing. And I'm right around my house and sip it, and it just like one little thing. I did to start the day off. And I feel -ccomplish d-. Nice. Yeah. It's you're making something just like the easiest thing to make it is. It is technically like cooking. Well, that's what the thing about cooking. Yeah. You get feedback instantly because you're. Delicious also awful. But I. I was gonna say that yogurt is probably too old thing. Wait, what's this? What what what inspired? You. Did you see someone else living smoother life? And you're like I need to get on that way. No. I'm not good at that. Because whenever I see people doing something like I should do that. But then I don't know I had to buy why bought one because I wanted to make Margaritas. Alcohol drink, but it was like I had people over and I made my Kariya's. And so I bought it. And then I was like well now, I have a slender. And then I was like, oh, I've always wanted to eat more fruit. So then I just started doing it. But I just started and that and then I did it every day. And so I made a habit. Do you have a recipe that you recommend are like one that you like, oh, that's actually good or even? Kind of like a couple of things when I go grocery shopping that my and then I kinda mix and match usually like have a banana for I'll put them in the fridge. I'll put like banana frozen bananas the fridge, and then it's easy to blend and then I don't know I like, berries, I like mangos peach. I've been doing like mango peach a lot. Yeah. Can't go wrong with red berries. I like to get a lot of the shit that I would normally have to choke down in a salad. The just like the leafy stuff on there and just jam that in under the cover of a banana or two works out. Well, what is a myth with something people? Think is true, you know, to be false. Okay. This one's maybe on the more cynical side. But the myth that you should always keep going and never quit specifically in comedy or industry. Because I think like I don't mean like you should give up if you're sad about it. But like people are always like, I think people get insecure when someone talks about quitting. And everyone's like, oh, no, no. You gotta keep going like you're gonna make it. But some people just don't want to keep going. And I think we get really insecure about if someone quipped what does that mean about me like I don't want to quit the no like entity. Yeah. And I think it's like, I don't know sometimes people just change their mind or move on or your priorities change. Yeah. Yeah. And I think it's holy okay. Does is not a failure. If you try something you don't like it. But I also think the whole idea like everybody's gonna make it 'cause is a myth because everybody who wants to and works at it and keeps improving we'll make it as long as you're always looking at yourself in like, okay. What did I where am I falling short? How can I get better? But people who just I mean, there's people who just stick around doing the same thing with the chamber act for three years or whatever. And they're probably not going to make it until they change what you're doing. So I think that's a myth because we kind of just tell that to ourselves over and over and right? Well, we should stop saying. That because that's not true. It doesn't it's not hopeless breath. If you want to get better, you gotta get better. Never give up. No matter. What does it just seem like hold onto the whole of this ship as long as you can? Yeah. Got it. You have to take your craft seriously and hone it. And like, yeah. Those people who do have experience excess. But I think yeah, there's some people literally just like why been hanging around for years. What's going on? Yeah. The yeah. If you're on a sinking ship, you can do you don't drown you can learn to swim. And then maybe you wanna be on an island. Instead, I dunno some kids life jacket. Yeah. Sure. And I also think people's jokes. Don't do that adapting what your definition of making. It is oh is important and like being interviewed Barry Sonnenfeld, the go direct of men in black. And like he was he said that one of the like he'd never had a roadmap for his career. And like his career was his way of figuring out what he wanted to do this. So he would like just try different things and stuff. And I think that's a valuable way to think about it that sort of the same way because like I I started doing comedy doing UCB. And then I just couldn't like the hustle of it. I just didn't have the heart for it. And I was sort of like trying to do. I just realized it wasn't feeling totally right. And I just tried to be less rigid about defining. What like what my career could be or what I have to offer. And I just tried a bunch shit and look here. I am on a second rape pod. Right. You know what? I mean. So. Yeah. Mind that people who we look at it and say, oh, well, they've made it don't think they've made it. Well, then they also don't like if you know someone for one thing they might be trying jealous of some other things. Like that. Like what about you never have thought that something you're doing because you're doing very well. Right doing what you're doing. But I also recently have been your thank you. I recently had because I was like I feel overwhelmed that stain yes. To everything. And I was like I'm not trying to do this. Like if someone's like, hey, do you wanna do this character show, whatever I'm like, oh, I got to write a new character for the show because when asked me I'm like, well, it's not a thing. I'm working on. I could just say, oh, no. I don't have a thing. Right. What feels? Yeah. Feels right. You might be saying. Yeah. Hell, yeah. I'll do that. But if you start feeling, yeah, don't there's no reason to drag yourself through it. And you also have a finite amount of time and energy so yeah forever about. Yeah. Exactly. It all ties together, we should just send the show, right? That was such a good search history over and under that you could just end the show that makes it reminds me of the person who probably is trying to live long is the comedian. Who hasn't changed their bid? Germ? My hands live as long as possible without changing anything about myself. All right. Let's do a quick check in with Google and the Google trends, skim, one of the things that's trending is Facebook stock because it has been falling for weeks and months, and there's going to be the longest quarterly losing streak that Facebook has ever had as a company the latest drop is because of that New York Times pro that we talk about a couple of episodes back where it was revealed that just just sort of the inner workings, and how Sheryl Sandberg who is supposed to be like the rational humanist Reich sort of a human ambassador to look through. Roar is just like really kinda head down bullish and just like charges through problems. And is not who I think a lot of people thought she was based on this profile, and yeah, just all around tech. Stocks are having a bit of a losing streak. I actually heard a new anagram FANG is a acronym is what they're calling the new like I had heard gaffer before which is Google Amazon Facebook and apple but FANG Facebook Amazon Apple Netflixing Google flicks. That commerce losing so much money on. Yeah. What I feel like from people I've talked to I think their ideas, they think Google or apple is going to have to buy them out. So they're like, we'll just deficit spend till the wheels blow off this thing. But they're so big now that it seems weird. Like, what would that that be the largest acquisition in the history of acquisition? I don't know. Hey, look, if you guys know how that business model runs with all that what do they spend like twenty billion? I don't know. But I mean, it would make a lot of sense for apple because people have been talking about how apple is like perfectly situated to have this huge content offering. But they haven't really like done it. They've just sitting back and being like. Yeah. Wait, wait till you, see what we come up been seeing a lot of cool names that I'm like, okay? Let's see where you go. But I have not seen anything so May-. Maybe apple by started doing. They have video podcasts on apple small tat. But it's not quite podcast. They're kind of like episodic bright. So it makes me wonder if on the other side net flicks is going to start doing audio. Yeah. I know that there are people out there who are investing in raising money for a net. Flicks of podcasting. So that's coming your way. Yet another product to we won't be good enough for that. But another thing that's trending is Rams game. Did you? Okay. I have missed it. Because I am still my family just moved. And so we do not have whatever. Not a bro anymore. I would have watched. I swear. But my kid, plus, no. But people are saying it's the best Monday night football game of all time. Maybe the best football game ever played a everyone was watching it. Besides knee. What did you see trees? So what did you see the whole thing? I I watched like most of the first half. And then. Yeah, I mean, it's very who are watching these teams were in the last few years not I think the chiefs played while last year. But but there is cool to kind of see like Leon like a team. That's not like the patriots or whatever like playing really, really hard. And like, you know, like Mahama's cool to watch. So, but it was it was very, yeah. It was exciting game. 'cause I think it just kinda was like very close and tight, and I didn't watch the end. So I don't know how that ended up playing out. But yeah, I know the final score. But yeah that sheets. The Rams won the Rams one. All right. The Los Angeles Rams uniform looks fake it looks like when you have. A Disney movie about. There. Look like so yellow it looks sharks. Los Angeles football player, I feel like kings. A lot of the time is the name of the game. My favorite squadron. Yeah. The Rams and the chiefs are basically the two best teams of this here. And they're following this trend, which is like all offense. Not a lot of defense because they've changed the rules in the NFL to basically protect the players from getting injured too badly and by making it less violent. They've actually made it more athletic and like more of a passing based game than it was even before and the Rams and the chiefs both have really great passing game. So did fly. There were a lot of flags right under that there's more more of that now. Yes. I haven't been being up as much this season. And then racketeering is also trending which I was confused by but miles you're saying Takashi six nine to. I don't know if you guys know who took is six nine I mean, generally, the listeners and anyone in this room. He is a rapper who, you know. He's just a goon. He keeps calling himself the king of New York. And cause a lot of problems. He's not a great rapper. He had some child pornography charges that he'd let he skirted awhile back. He looks like a unicorn Frappuccino. Yeah. He's just like, I don't know. I he's part of this new crop of rappers who I'm not really feeling like he's just wildly problematic shit that he does and says, you know, like using the N word when you're not black shit like dad, but anyway, he basically got caught up. He's facing. I think thirty two years to Omay possibly life, depending on how like the wild these charges go for racketeering because of his involvement with the nine trae bloods, gang in New York. And he's always said, he's a he's a blood or whatever, and there's been all kinds of back and forth about his gang affiliation. But essentially like he's got up with racketeering charges. Like e from like, you know, intimidation stuff with guns like a shooting that happened at the Barclays center. Earlier this year, and I think yeah. People many people like wheat Takashi is going to Joe because he's a huge rapper. I don't get me wrong. Like a lot of people like him for whatever reason. But yeah, I think a lot of people like you'll away was racketeering. And you know, that's when you use a criminal acts to basically make money or take money from people or over again. So it's usually like protection like when they're like, oh, I'd hate for something bad to go wrong. Would you bring this year like the mob days like that kind of protection should run of the mill racketeering? Just seems like he got caught up with some organized crime shit. And we will see what happens of the young, man. He's gotta album coming. I think next week or some shit. I think he's really into Harley Quinn because he looks kinda like her her his hair looks like he's had an interesting like he kind of came out of nowhere. I mean before like, they always show pictures of him like how he was not living this life. But you know, I don't know. I don't get these young kids right with the rainbow teeth. Teeth and also you could tell because I remember when the breakfast club. Like Charlemagne was like a man, you gotta you gotta tone down your like cocky behavior, like you're gonna get in trouble like whether it's with other people in the streets who are who are really gangster or legally because you are living wild in dangerously out here, and it seems like the ladder may have happened. So, you know, right. Nose clean kids will keep an eye on that. And we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back. Joel do you know what I love meeting friends after work at a local brewery, maybe gathering around an old barrel or something sipping a well-crafted juicy IP while discussing personal finance, Matt, buddy. You're totally speaking my language, except I'm pretty sure most peeps in this scenario aren't talking about money with their friends because that's the super awkward topic. Why does everyone make it so weird, dude? I know right. It doesn't have to be that awkward game. And we'd like to talk about personal finance, especially weekly in my dining room over a craft beer on our podcast how to money whether we're talking about ways to cut your grocery Bill creating side hustles or traveling the world on less. We're having conversations about personal finance and how it relates to normal people who want to enjoy life in also be money smart. That's right. We're all about making these topics relatable and enjoyable, so it's something you'll want to talk about the next time you meet up for drinks. So if you want to level up your personal finance game. Then be sure to listen and subscribe on apple. Podcasts the iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcast. Just search for how to money. Back and story that we might have teased already. But we're finally getting to it. I never liked to admit this. This is why I've been putting it off so long. I might have been wrong about that whole Havana diplomat attack that then became the just diplomats in both have Anna and in China being attacked by some invisible mysterious Ray gun. What was your initial take? Is that initial shit was that it was mass hysteria. Oh, I think I remember this being on episode. Oh, yeah. I talk about it nam style. I have really gone out on a limb on this one. So why are you preparing the crow for eating? Okay. So the New Yorker came out with a deep dive on the subject, and it kind of just implicitly dismisses the idea that there's mass hysteria. Like, they don't even really go into that as an option, and it's mostly based on the fact that they put this like dream team together of neurological researchers and medical experts, and they examined all the brains, and there were definitely cases where people were like, yeah. I to feel sick. Nauseous, and I was in that same office, and they examine those people. And they were like, oh, but you don't have these scrambled brains that we've been seeing on these brain scans. But it seems like they're able to look at the people who were hit by this Ray and say yes, this shows definite signs of actual physical trauma like there. Live. Verifiable damage something happened. We just don't know what. Which makes this story. In addition to me being wrong about it. It makes it like way more interesting because that means that there's a weapon out there that not only do we not have access to the weapon. We don't even know how it's physically possible that there's a thing like technologic technologically. We don't know the physics of like how this like what it's doing to people's brains or how it's happening. So it suggests there is like a blind spot in the scientific method that like the western world has been pursuing and communist countries have like burrowed into some others, the magic of the oriented, well, but there's all sorts of Soviet science projects were undercover that we never found out about. And the maybe that's what's going on a lot of people suspect. It's russia. But I mean this article definitely Lee. Gives you with more questions than answers. But it also made me much more. I tell them still more agnostic than like firmly on one side. But it deadlier hold you away from definitely away trip. Yeah. Exactly curious about so like, if you say, they have different science, it's more like on a military level, right? Which we probably also do because if I've country's kinda like trying to hide the scientists probably hit him from their people to right? It's not like it's like everybody. There knows. It's been published and we haven't just read about it. Right. It's like the new tasers people walk around with like, oh, you don't have a sonic Ray. But our military still can't figure out what's happening. But if there was like a big scientific, I mean, I don't know what this is. Like, let's say, yeah. There was something. Like, oh now, we can have telekinesis. I feel like it sets huge enough for humanity that as a scientist, even if you're working for the Soviets or China or whatever different country, I feel like it would break through the secret. Layer because there's just so like, it's on a scientific level, Theresa not publish. That's what I was saying they not talk to other site. You know what I mean like? Computing winning just live if if he was like in the realm of conspiracies where it's like, it's probably something. But it's I doubt as this whole secret thing where they've unlocked time travel, and we just don't know because it would be really hard to just keep that even within like Millard hair. It was I mean, if it is in that line, it could be something that they were working on and then they just stumbled upon like different application way to second. These couple tricks actually have this whole other thing to keep that low though, which is actually how most scientific discovery happens anyways as by accident, and yeah, it's entirely possible. That like wasn't for breeze meant for something else before. Yeah. Or penicillin is probably the more important one. Yeah. Sure. What? What? You know? That's another reason why I think look Trump you should look at this to Mr President and be like, oh, we're even falling behind in the weapons world where we got whacky shit. We don't know about or if this is the case it is. In fact, a weapon we don't know about. But it seemed like earlier today or the day before they were like, I saw an interview with the mother of a diplomat who is in China, and like sort of how at first they thought it was Aaron the other things, but they also notice that the pets that lived with her. We're also like avoiding rooms that they were hearing stuff in and like the dogs wouldn't wanna go back to the apartment. So I mean, you know, if the rumors are true dogs are pretty good a hearing at the same time that also sounds like this of shit you hear from people who are like my house haunted. Yeah. My dog will never go in that room. Sure. Sure. Got an evil spirit in it. But you know, there's something about that. Maybe it's not an evil spirit. But maybe there's something we don't know. 'cause they're report some sometimes like very haunt acqu. Quote, unquote, haunted areas, multiples separate people will have stories, and then it'll be like, oh, well, maybe it's not a ghost. But what is it? Like, maybe there's right. And we don't know that's causing that energy or since like, it's a loose wires. It will. I mean, it could literally be like us something like that. Like, maybe some whatever that's built on a tilder. And it makes you feel uneasy like it could be something like, but, but if you don't know what it is doesn't mean there's nothing we've covered how infra sound a lot of the times, which is like a sound way. The human ear is capable of hearing. It's like below the register that we can here. But a lot of the times when there's like a really haunted area or something it can like cause hallucinations and people and it also like just gives you this feeling of dread. So you believe in haunting I believe there's a scientific explanation for most haunting. Oh, can I? With. We hold on going. Then I so of ghosts select there's like a pipe that is like, oh, okay. So you're not seeing some will you can measure it goes. But it's called sound. And like because we can't hear it. We're not aware of it. But it's like giving you a water thing. What are things that caused him? For sounds though that are like machines or all sorts of things, then that's what the ghosts want you to think. Right. Exactly. They can share a quick thing that that made me think of 'cause I don't think I believe in aliens. And I never thought. Oh, no, okay. John. But I want to share the story because I I don't believe in aliens, it's fun to read about. But the other night I was about to go to sleep. And I was just kind of having a more panicky night. And I kept seeing this, you know, sometimes it's a panic and I saw Sunday night. And I saw this light that kept blinking. And I couldn't tell where it's coming from. And I started freaking out because I was like, okay. It's not look like it was coming from under my bed. And I was like there's nothing there. And I looked and I was like, it's probably just something and all it's my phone or something. And I was like. I'll just go to sleep a ignore it. But then my boyfriend's ought to and he was like, okay. Let's figure it out. And then we got spooked. And this is why I'm like, I don't believe in aliens. But for a moment, I believed in aliens, we why do you think he was ailing? That's the thing. I'm like this. How you know if you really believe in not when you're in a situation of unknown. What's your first thought? And my first thought was I'm scared which meant that deep down. I probably believe in that. Otherwise, I wouldn't have been scared. But then we figured out. It was the way that might like USB drive was facing flexing off of the mirror and like basically causing this really weird. It was a weird looking light. And it was bookie. So you think just go back to that? You think would the universe being so vast that we're the only life forms in existence in the entire universe. I I don't think that necessarily, but I don't necessarily believe in the whole like aliens are coming to object us to study us. Okay. Look. Yes. Coin to my window. Let's talk after this. I will show you some freaky stuff. We'll call my uncle. All right. Let's talk about Nancy Pelosi. Yeah. Nancy? Well, you know, so there's a lot of new incoming freshmen d-e-m-o Kratz into the house. And if you campaign on the idea that like I will oppose the leadership of Nancy Pelosi, a lot of incumbents said that in their reelection campaigns. And so now there was a letter release or sixteen signatories to the letter saying that they would oppose Nancy's claim to the speaker's gavel to become speaker of the house now with the math of like this conference of this process of her being confirmed, or you know, just sort of chosen as speaker. She can only afford to lose fifteen votes like fifteen no votes from the Democrats and their sixteen signatories to this letter. Now, we don't know if that means that they might they might say they oppose it and might vote present at the on the floor vote, which have just it's like a half asks no, which wouldn't count on the full. No. But a lot of people are like oh this. Kinda messes up the math for her to become speaker. But you know, as much as I take issue with some of Nancy's positions, the people who signed to this letter are mostly these like, boring, centrist, white male Democrats are more conservative who are already like in districts where Nancy Pelosi is like a fucking just ghost write liberal boogieman liberal boogie everything she's the baba Duke of politics, basically in their district. And I think for them they just they need to outwardly show. Like, you know, that woman you're so afraid of like I'm against that. That's why you voted for me. And like, I can't just have my my first vote. We'll be a no against her leadership. I thought that. Yeah. I thought that the opposition was coming from like the. Oh sees and the no one even Alexander causing Cortez herself was like look if you look at that this push from these sixteen people if anything creates a vacuum for a more conservative speaker to move right for that for Democrats. And I mean like when you look at the people who like are putting their names in the in the ring like, Marcia fudge from Ohio. I mean, she even said like she's kind of fallen back a bit. She hasn't. You know, initially said, I I'll challenge her client all challenge her to become speaker. But she's sort of fallen back in a few other people were notably not signatories to that. Who said they might challenge Nancy Pelosi? So, you know, I don't know. I don't know what's actually going to go on with it. But I think you know, when you look at it, I understand what people on the left of Pelosi feel like, you know, it's time. It's been too long. We need new leadership. And look what's happened over the last few years like the Democrats have just been become stagnant. But I think for such a crucial two years coming up. There is something to say about her experience. Granted I don't like how she likes to play ball or do bipartisan, the any kind of bipartisan activities specially with this White House. But it would be good that she can at the very least transmit this knowledge to whoever is going to take over and I could live with this if Nancy's like okay this next two years. And then if we keep the house all handed over hasn't shown by suggested that said with right with would you say if Hillary one she said, she was step aside? Moore step down, you know, if like because she there would be a new era, but I think she knows too. I mean, she has acknowledged that it needs to happen. But I think a lot of people, you know, especially when you look at a lot of these super progressive Democrats have come in. They weren't taking pack money, or, you know, all this other shit, and or corporate money Nancy Pelosi does and there's a, you know, the new wave of guys aren't really feeling it. But she's still decently progressive by do have to say that. I think it's the fact that there there are times that she makes decisions that are. Like just our head scratchers like recently, she agreed to a rules change. That would like basically require a supermajority to raise taxes on the bottom eighty percent, which I get on the surface, you're saying, okay, it would be harder to raise taxes on like just the bottom eighty but you're also giving veto power to these Republicans who will never ever vote for a tax increase. Right. So it's like we don't need that right now because the real like don't agree to these rules changes when we're trying to have a real seismic shift in tax policy to and begin setting the table for that as well. And just to clarify Alexandria Cosio. Cortes is not one of the names on the list. No, no, no. What do you mean to to? Does Nancy Pelosi? No, no, she she isn't signed to it. It's you know, it's just say. Say she in theory likes the idea of maybe getting some fresh blood in. But she wanted to name. Yeah. And she said, you know for her. She was looking at it. You mean not to become speaker? No, no to oppose there's sixty. I mean, she's always said we've needed change. But she hasn't been like I'm gonna vote. No. Because she's like as far as I can see the people who, you know, this litters wacked because it didn't really even specifically say what their their gripes were with her. It was just saying that it's time for something new and they didn't even offer an alternative. So it just feels like it's like probably for more conservative areas, and they they want to it's just political writing. Well, Linda Sanchez is like one of the few people on their who's voted less with Trump than any of the people. And it's like, she's probably the most progressive person on that list of people who did sign, but a lot of these people like, you know, Seth Moulton Massachusetts who totally fucking took L at a town hall. I days ago, he was like trying to tell us constituencies. Like, hey, you know, people Democrats really want to get rid of Pelosi in the hole. Green goes. No, no. Yeah. I was just kidding. Yeah. But you know, we'll see. No. I mean, I just think again, I can handle it if it's just two years because I don't know what the alternative is. Because she you know, there's like now's the time to be more divided. But yeah, she's for sure like a very like lifelong politician time. Yeah. And that's what I worry about is like, you know, and I said this before is that if she wants to work with Trump, I don't think that's going to help us or progressives going into twenty twenty as like handing him wins that he can totally client all the credit for like, I lower prescription drug costs infrastructure. So that I did. And that's where it gets a little tricky. So, you know, yet based on the options, I don't know. I mean, I would love Karen bass to step up, but we'll see who's carrying Beth she'd like a heads the progressive caucus African American woman. She was the ran the state assembly of California. She's you know, I could see her she's experienced and I like her progressive streak more than Nancy Pelosi's. But again, I don't know if the first. Thing going into these very crucial years like a just a visceral being in fight, you know, democratic fight is going to be the best thing. Although this would be the time to have it, right? Would be now as opposed to a couple like or in a year. It's now would be the time to have an fight. And I was listening to somebody was saying that like when I'm thinking about how important anti Pelosi is going to be over the next two years. I'm thinking about the last two years when you know Schumer and anti Pelosi were like kind of the main faces of the Democratic Party because they were opposing Trump, and they were the only people to oppose him. But this person was pointing out that actually in the next two years. You're going to have the twenty five people who are running for president on the democratic side who are going to be the faith Craddock part. Craddock part speaker has tremendous power and setting the agenda of what kind of legislation is gonna go tos. And that's where I get like. Let's not down shit, or you know, right? It's there's a potential for shit to go wrong. And who knows I don't want to, you know, I'm not a wise, man. Do you think that there's a bit of like just playing politics game though that when they're saying like, oh, we gotta get through these next two years. Like, oh, we don't like our either. Because then like, then the two years, and then it's the election. And like there's always gonna be a next benchmark, even if the Democrats win or even like, let's say we whatever Trump gets elected out of office. Then there's going to there's still opposition. What there's going to be like, oh bows really tight now. So really gotta just stay until the next and a little bit of a tactic that. They're always exactly. And I think that's why it's what makes it a little complicated. Because you also don't have someone who's you know, really stepping up and saying I'm the person to go up against Nancy Pelosi, like even the progressive wing still trying to figure out like so we will. I mean, January third is when the new congress is sworn in. And that's when the floor vote happens for speaker. And that's when people have to go on the record because there's a caucus vote that happens. Earlier. But that's all confidential. You don't know how people voted, but the one that matters is on in January when like people will put their name on the vote because if things go let's say if things go really, well, and whatever Pelosi's takes over and everything's like, whatever, strawberries and cream and a good, and then democrat take over then there's going to be the argument that like, well, he why change our winning streak. I feel like either way it's kind of like it's kind of a rock and a hard place. And it's like, well, what's the what is the thing that we want? Now, maybe the best way to look at it on those people who know shit about politics, keep mentioning Karen, Beth you mentioned here, and she's not gonna head of the progressive caucus used a member of it. Right. And she was the speaker of the state assembly. She also gets shit done. Yeah. There are plenty of people. You could look at it and say like, yo there's some good people out there that could that have experienced and have like a vision of the future that like that is like a. Very working people. I kind of agenda, and I think that's what's really missing. But not. But that's what a lot of people got into office campaigning on so. Yeah. All right. We're going to take another quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Ariel Casten. And I'm Jonathan Strickland and together we're going to tell you the stories behind some of the biggest triumphs and failures in business. That's right. We're going to explore situations that tested the metal entrepreneurs pivotal moments required. Making tough decisions. We'll be talking about some big companies that everybody knows like Disney LEGO and Harley Davidson and together we try to answer the question. What do you do when you find yourself at the brink? Listen and subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Indoor back and just real quick. We want to say happy birthday to launch Ables. They just turned thirty the were invented in a lab by a food scientist who then pitched them to a bunch of tobacco executives because at the time. Oscar Mayer was owned by RJ Reynolds. And they were like, oh my God. This is brilliant because we can make it super addictive. They are really bad for you. And oh, wow. Does not happy take on this. It's not just cheese and ham like it is. But it's super salty in Hammas, not actually like a a lot of the things that it doesn't just like come directly often animal's body. I think it's processed or at least version. Yeah. I mean, it's just like pink has ham. It's just a ham disc. Right and the crackers or like buttery and the cheese cheese. And I mean, I love I remember it because. My line. No, they were so sore. She would never buy like immigrant parents. They don't buy the shit, although your American friend for lunch. And I'm like, I want this. Fuck no. Then I had to be like you'll you don't have to do shit. Mom, sent me out the door with this fucking thing. And you're good. And she got it for you. She did once and then she like looked at and she's like this looks like just garb. Yeah. It and then I only maybe there's like two months in like fourth grade when I was rocking lunch Ables. And then put the KYW Bosch on really took. For granted the great food. We are getting like my mom would make me like in a thermos like beef noodle soup. Right. Right. Really good food. And then I'd be like, oh, no. I want eat pizza. Everyone's making fun of me. And then, but I'm now, I'm like, wow. That was good shit. When I was really young my mom used to make like old bento like the bento box as looked off flying shit and people. It was good, right? And I'm like, it's see it's it's like me. So yeah. And then like they were eating like salami sandwiches. And I would just cry right begged for tuna and then associate finally started making tuna, and but I was like, I I don't know. I just wanted it because other people had it and it back. I was like yo y'all shit. Yeah. You can gourmet shit. But yeah, the lunch Ables, you know, apparently, they're still doing very well because craft Heinz just sold them for one like nearly one and a half billion dollars. Yeah. So parents are still lazy. I wonder what they are. Now, they've updated the types of food. There was the pizza one. You mentioned. Deserve to. Did. You guys ever have that. It was like they had a dessert pizza. Lungibu calls. We have is like chocolate sauce on it. I'm gonna really on what Brad thing. Oh, whoa. This is wild. And that was the main course or that was just the desert. I can't remember that. Blabber? The regular pizza or was it own. I can't remember. But I do remember eating dessert pizza. Yeah. I think no. I definitely saw an image of I think they have all kinds. Now, it's. And they're also the smoothies of children's lunches get to feel like you made something medicine witch and another one they have so many of its it's funny when you go to lunch dot com. It's like are you a kit or parent and the kid ones like you d shit. Parents side is like with drink you one hundred percent organic one hundred percent juice. Yeah. With Capri sun. Let's funny that used to seem like a testament of how healthy something was one hundred percent juice, and now of like realized juices, really bad. What is that even when they say that one hundred percent juice? It's just like it's actually they squeeze it out of a piece of fruit as opposed to it being like sugar water mixed with like some grape flavoring. Oh, oh, so just mean like we use fruit to make this sugar water. Yeah. Sugar juice. Yeah. Okay. It wasn't juicy juice. I remember as a kid. There was like it's one hundred percent. Yeah. And was healthy and good on that me my foot and Mondo foolish sugar. All right. Let's talk thanksgiving. You guys. What's what are you guys doing this giving I can start out because I'm really excited to not be going fucking anywhere. I'm staying here. Last year, we flew back to the east coast with two young young children in tow. And it was actually just one thing about it. Born in February. Yeah. So it was one on the way and one very young child who's not at a great age for travel or wasn't at a great age for travel at that point. So I'm happy just to be chilling out. We're going to do our first thanksgiving and our new house one of my wife's friends is coming over. She's a great cook. So we're going to do it. And also we're going to be able to drive around Los Angeles with everybody. Go. Oh, that's nice Angeles. That is how Los Angeles was meant to exist. I'm going up to the bay to see Her Majesty's family. And I'm hoping that the drive won't melt my head, but it should be fine. But that's my favorite thing about LA in the holidays is like anybody who's. A transplant or just had somewhere to go like, and it's just empty. Oh is like a fantasy world. I'm like, yo do you wanna go the west side? Twice in a day care. Visit all your friends on the east side. Yeah. I'm driving to the bay to. You are carpool. Well, my doggie and my sister are coming. Okay. But. I'm I'm excited to go home. But I I'm similar boat. Because when I used to live in New York, I never came home for thanksgiving because it was too close to Christmas and it's far away. And I love staying in the city because everybody leaves them, and then all the people who stay kind of get together and do something like have their own kind of or or watch football or. Giving is a phrase. I made them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Never heard that good. Good. But I like that feeling and to the point now where like when I was invited to friends giving this year, and I won't be here for it. Because I'm going home. I was like oh, man. I missing out. But like the whole point of friends giving us to help people not feel like they're missing out. But now, it's more fun than actually I know he's giving like this your friends giving like blew the fuck up in a major way. Like, I was seeing theme friends giving like next level friends giving us just you would see people. But like for the first time, I was looking around on in social media. Mike damn these people are doing going all out. Yeah. We'll get vulnerable on things of friends giving because it's like all the people who aren't going home, and then they're like sort of sad, but not like opening up, and you're bonding, and I'm like that's ever. Yeah. Shut up. What are you gonna eat said, you're you're the family friends, really cook? Yes. She's really good cook. You you specifically pointed that out so you must really be looking forward to this cooking. Well, I'm going to get the groceries which is another thing. I like to do I'm going grocery shopping. I like that's like a de-stressing activity for me for whatever reason is hanging out in grocery stores. Just because it's like consumerism. Disneyland is just everything and nice little org. Remember going from being like a, bro? College kid going to the grocery store to kind of having a job and going the first time, you're like Joel could get this shit if I want and I'm going to buy two kinds of ice cream today. That's I don't know. Why still I do get a kick out of the grocery store, I'm gonna try to make my mom's sweet potato casserole this year. And that is. That is a big big thing if we can pull it off. What do you? What about you? What I mean? Well, my mom doesn't like when I'm in her kitchen. So I don't shit. Very she's like Doug it get on my kitchen 'cause she's so particular everything goes like so I ended up last couple of years. I'll just make a dip for the uptight serves because she's like, oh, you could take care of the apps for people. So I used to make spinach artichoke dip in college that people like site. Yeah. It's not really a thanksgiving thing. But like, she just she has everything covered. I like making pie. But I don't really when I'm home. I'm really not supposed to be in the way, the kitchen. So it has to be things that are able to do in like very short amount of time and get out of the way, what kind of party make I like pumpkin pie, probably the easiest one to do. Visit. Yeah. Because you just do. Filling in pike filling in motion and everyone thought about that you make your own crust. No. We can tell you. Yes. Yes handmade. You guys have any like favorite memories. You guys do the when you go home. Do you like see all your old, friends and stuff I live where I grew up. So right. Yes. Him all the time. Do all the comeback before James Drake always goes to hang out at this bar my hometown like the day before thanksgiving, and it's kind of annoying because people always go, and then he just camps out of detail and God and like get such attention. Yeah. Where's Dave Dave is on the side? Like, hey, I'm here to I last year. I did my mom, and I went to they would just go to do community service in the morning thanksgiving, my college friends, and it was really fun. So I might try to do it again this year. I guess I have to sign up. I haven't done that yet that maybe it might be too late. But I almost got wrangled into doing a fucking job. Try. You guys were talking a lot of shit about white people running before the well because it was yesterday because I I became that mean it was like I forget it was like this black, dude. And is like, you know, like when you're white girlfriend's family on thanksgiving days. Like, let's go for a ten mile run. They like what the? Like what the fuck go and her masters asking me, if I wanted to turkeytrot gang, if you didn't know this over the weekend, a busted, my pinky till I pretty pretty much broke the shit and stepped onto dead bees have to feasting on the soul of my foot. So how's he got stuck on his head? Yes. Appeal and that was that. Yeah. The idea of exercising on like, I could play soccer or something. I know like that's like people come like. We'll play flag football or something. I could do that. Yeah. Isn't it? Does it happen before after the meal before? Okay. Oh my God. Because you imagined that would be just punishment. Yeah. I like what you said. I can't remember jacker mouth at. But that running is white people dancing. Yeah. That's what I was saying. Let's do some let's run. Yeah. That was the white person whose feelings were hurt. Everyone can dance rand run. Asia people like karaoke at parties. That's a big thing. Oh, yeah. My in laws low they go out to like one in the morning, karaoke, king Koreatown every time they come to town. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And they got no rules and create town. Like, there's some of those places where you could straight up smoke cigarettes inside in a basement. And that's why they go old world rule has him. But. Oh, when did you ask you good memory? Yeah. Or like a great thanksgiving. It's odd. My best memory is all involved food that was made. Yeah. 'cause it's always the same thing. I see my cousins and everybody wanted to get time. But a couple years back. My uncle had like the salt lick and Austin like had FedEx like brisket for our thanksgiving and my good. It was the most pleasant surprise ever. When I was like, y'all what you but like Texas brisket. And you're okay with that wasn't Turkey. Yes. And I'll get into that probably on our black Friday episode. Okay on. Oh, yeah. I was gonna say like barbecue for thanksgiving. That sounds awesome. We're not having Turkey this year. We're doing chicken and ham ham ham. Lot of him talk shadow to ham horn, they had to change they had to get rid of that a sound bite from thirty rock of her going ham. Because I think they got hit with a probably my favorite memory from thanksgiving weekend. Is this tradition that I told former Zych guest Soren buoy about and he's going to incorporate it into his family tradition. It's a tradition that Ken down from my dad's family where one of Santa's elves like that after thanksgiving and it had to be between thanksgiving and Christmas was like echo, bud season. Those the name of the elf and one of the closets in our house he would like visit. And so my dad would make like a big show of thinking you heard something and like going checking all the different closets until he found the one that the elf was in and then he'd have a weird like one conversation with the elf where he was like. Yeah, he's been. All right. I guess, but then you get like one Chris. President early. And there's something about like getting one present early, and like just appreciate that so much and also it's just cool like to for some reason just like having seeing your dead interact with like a magical creature way was would he go into close the door behind? So you're only hearing conversation. No, he would like be standing there. We'd be on the other side of the door, and he'd be like kind of talking like making eye contact with the elf to real L. If you guys it's a real interesting. You could only hear right? It was one time only he could see and hear him, including my mom, which we're going to update that. So there can also see it kebob. But yeah, we're doing that for the first time this year with my kids. So I'm pretty psyched about fun kabosh should be bilingual to his bilingual. Right. Exactly. The first time you do it. Are you going to explain that? Or you're just like there's a whole. Holy shit. Let's do a tradition. My dad used to do to get us excited about Christmas. Don't be so literal. Yeah. What the fuck is L phone a shelf. Okay. So this is a thing that I've heard about and I I'm vaguely familiar with. But it sounds like a version of what I talked about except there's a toy elf right sits on like different places in the house. And like he moves every day, and like leaves a different prison for you every day think man. Yeah. The parents have to move him like in the middle of the night. I know it's weird. Good people of zai-qing cultural exchange opportunity, right? Lease explain L fauna show. Why guys love that so much? Yeah. And I'll tell you why Japanese people if KFC mom ruined Santa. And we don't have young listeners on this. Right. No. Santa and the two young kids for my little brother because she got in a fight with my dad wants about because he was like a born again Christian. And and then they were kind of like it was early on. They've worked through it. But early on they were having a lot of issues with that. And my dad wrote as a tooth as the two fairies about God like trying to convert my brother, but as the tooth fairy. And so she got mad and she was like, it's not real. It's your dad does not really either. And he was so upset. But I believed it until I was like twelve to long 'til Israel. Yeah. Damn I was just talking with somebody about that. How I from the beginning. I was just so cool. Yeah. I just couldn't understand. I'm like, okay. Maybe. But. And also, I think my parents did a bad job of like inoculating me, sell it. Yeah. The season or whatever. But I remember being like fourth grade and kids would be like, well, Santa AMI, either whatever, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, yo your dumb. It's a little things like writing the letter and then actually going to the post office and dry like little things like that. As a kid. You can't fathom. Well, how could you fake it mailed? A letter. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's I guess, yeah. My parents is fucked up, and they were like, what do you want? I actually I remember finding out that he wasn't real. And like being like, so they just lied to us all this time like pissed me off so much like it was like being a college student who's like a communist capitalism's ally, the same emotions their schools who are like trying to tell parents like it's not good to say some gifts or from Santa. Because then like if some kids who parents don't have as much money their gifts are less Leah and from Santa then like Decca create some kind of self worth issues or like Senate in bring me the PS four with all them shits your bad kids shin guards. And I don't even play hockey. That's what the tea those trees are for in the mall. Right. You can you can grant a kid Santa gift. Oh, they have toys for tots. Oh, toys retired you by. Yeah. You buy. A kids wishlist, and then they get saying against man. I want to tell them is from miles. Get nicer one because my mom would always do that. When we went shopping and some she'd be like all they want like. Yeah. Like, PlayStation stuff. I'm like, I don't get that. She's like, well, you're not just going to medium gift. Theresa. It's been a pleasure having you where can people find you? I have a podcast it's called. You can tell me anything you guys can listen to that. And I'm also on Twitter at Louisa t what's the premise of your focus. It's comedians telling me something they've never told anyone. Yeah, grits. Learn some secret messed stuff shit shooting. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? I've been really enjoying dog tweets. There was one of a dog running into pile of leaves. But I don't know if I can dog names, Stella look, this up dog names de LA this dog just enjoys fall so much the door opens. He runs out of the house and straight into a enormous pile of leaves. And it's the cutest thing. Just like runs around in it. And. Yeah. Books at up. He's just. He's just a lot of yard work for somebody else. Well, that is also like the biggest pile of leaves I've ever seen those just disappear. Oh shit. Oh, man. See this problem with like, no seasons here. I know. I remember one into just jump into a pile of leaves as a kid instead, I just jumped to a pilot trash and got pricked by hypodermic. How did you not elaborate on the Japan buying KFC for thanksgiving? Well, somebody has to explain on the shelf to me better. And all. On google. It's a big thing though war thing that tradition. Yeah. The Colonel is just be it's like, you know, after MacArthur came through at World War Two bringing all the American companies and meats and shit. Like that KFC's just kind of became this thing that people were like really fixated on. And because Christmas was basically not, you know, not only started coming into to Japan. Oh, that's just like this conflation of the two and Christmas is more of a couple's holiday in Japan, anyway, couples like Valentine's Day. As much more of a family one. That's the one where you go home and like you don't eat for like five days straight and don't do shit John love, but like in. Yeah for it's more couples. You know, you you buy short. It's like the jewelry commercials and shit like for Christmas opening and then what if the kernel is like Santa? Like, the Colonel just kind of people love the Colonel over there. But although je Japan is actually been not fucking with KFC is much. It's the I think the younger people aren't really buying into the whole KFC Christmas thing so papa's because it used to be like cups that you'll get every Christmas that came out and those ships were like collector's items, like Starbucks holiday cups. Yeah. In a way, but less controversial. And you get a Christmas cake too. That's another Japanese Christmas cake, isn't even shortcake. Oh, I had a friend who visited from South Korea. And he was so excited about it. When I lived in New York, and he was like can we go to KFC, right? What? What? Downing. I like it. The best restaurant in new. Miles can people find you you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray of two tweets. One predictably is from reductions this one is a photo of a police woman with her arms crossed looking very confident, and it says horse girl from high school a cop now. Funny. Everybody knew the horse girl. There's always a horse somebody. So my question out there. And then another one is from Elissa Keiko at Eliza Keiko. It says a millennial savings account is just a Twitter account would ten k followers. Just in case you need to crowd fund for medical bills wild also guys. I'm like only a few away from ten case come follow me at miles. Him and helped my Twitter savings account my millennial savings. All right. Enjoyed zach. 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This is going to be a little longer. But it's really important that make this call. Good morning Butterball Turkey talk line. This is Tara. Speaking may help you. Yes. Hi. This is Dan, and I have never made thanksgiving dinner in my life. And I wonder if you can help me figure out where to start well eastern at the right place. Dan, the I died. Well, how many people are coming over for temple? You're going to have ten people at your gathering who that would. Then be fifteen pound Turkey Havana's might be awhile for people take approximately three to four days near frigerator. But not to worry wants a bond you have up to four, and you I am so sorry. I'll be right water over to cover one on you and pretty back into the refrigerator on a tray the next step is to wait for thanksgiving. And then you just take your Turkey out of the band and take the gym within the neck out. What exactly are G O giblets come with the Turkey. They are the heart in the gizzard. You stay on the line. I'm late for the intro. From business insider and Stitcher. This household name. Brands. You know, stories you doubt. I'm damned. Don. Today to helpings of thanksgiving. I the story of butter balls. Wildly successful Turkey customer support line. The craziest calls the nicest people in brilliant marketing. Then we have our own Turkey talk line stories of people who found themselves eating fast food on thanksgiving. Stay with us. There are brands that kind of own thanksgiving like you've got pepperidge farm, stuffing ocean spray cranberry sauce, maybe Marie calendar's pumpkin pie and a certain kind of Turkey. Thunderball plump Hughes e kinder- Butterball is everything that Turkey should be except risky thanksgiving. I mean Butterball is really a true national icon. They're not so many of those maybe that are left. Kyle lock is paid to say stuff. Like that. These the head of retail marketing for Butterball, and he's right there really isn't any other big brand name when it comes to whole turkeys. We're really the only brand that is going to be consistently nationally distributed printed anywhere, you go. Looking for a Turkey Butterball is there? Kyle's resume is full of poultry companies like Tyson of had a variety of different roles in my career all working on protein brands. That's what you call them protein brands. Yes. Right. Never heard that before. Okay. Well, there you go. The football is win Kyle talks Turkey. I get the feeling he isn't just doing his job. He's really into it like even outside of work. He's the kind of guy who goes up to strangers to tell them. He works for Butterball. My wife has tried to get me to stop doing it as much, you know, two random people in airports or grocery stores. I'm known to handle coupons to people without them. Asking for them. You know, a little bit of of an advocate. So Kyle is a true butter believer. I'm sorry. But if you think about it Kyle job is kind of hard like if you're in a supermarket. No reasonable person could tell the difference from one Turkey or another. And yet when Kyle tells people where he works. He gets reactions like this kind of kick ahead back. And it's like, oh, I love Butterball. That love is because of branding Turkey's are kind of commodities. They're mostly the same. But Butterball has spent a lot of time and money building a relationship with Americans as a company Butterball has had a bunch of different owners over the last half century, like swift and Beatrice and conagra Butterball from swift is truly pope and juicy after all it's Butterball also available fresh. Now, it's its own company. But the brand Butterball that's remained constant, and I don't think it's because of the base thing. I think it's in large part because of the very very nice people who pick up the phones at the Butterball Turkey talk line people like Tara or her co worker, Carol. Hi, I'm Carol Miller. I'm actually one of fifty home economists dietitians food, scientists Turkey experts that man the Butterball Turkey talk line. All right. You're going to start asking me questions now. Right. Yes. I am. Carol. The Butterball Turkey talk line is part customer service part counseling center here to answer. All of your Turkey questions from the start of November to Christmas Eve as many as fifty operators are standing by to answer. Your basic Turkey questions. How much Turkey by? How do I saw out? What's the best way to roast it the provide emotional support their times when people call in there, you knew know that they're really stressed out and these Turkey talkers are problem solvers window. I put the Turkey in. So that it's done by halftime Carol is joined in the call center by other wholesome operators. This is the Butterball Turkey talk line. You're speaking with Andrea. I'm sue Smith. I'm one of the co directors here at the Butterball Turkey talk line, and I've been here for nineteen years. Hello, I'm March Klender. I'm one of the Butterball Turkey TalkLine experts. I've been working here at Butterball for the past thirty six years. These are the veterans March started a couple of years after the line launched in nineteen Eighty-one. Well, when it first started the girls were working off of a Rolodex with information, and they took all the calls and recorded them by hand by nineteen Eighty-three when I began we had computers, and we put all the information in the computer over they were the big bulky computers of that era. The line has gone from eleven thousand calls in its first year to one hundred thousand last season. We're just I think part of thanksgiving tradition for so many FAM. Families. And we're here we can talk to you in person. I think so many people love that idea but ball is based in North Carolina. But the call center is outside Chicago in Naperville, which helps explain why so many of the operators sound like what you'd get if you type mid west night since Google have you ever been stumped by a caller I caged Italy. But usually I can find somebody on the line who has information. And if I can't answer it, right, then I'll call somebody back and get them. The information. These Turkey experts are so nice so unflappable, but I thought after hundreds of thousands of calls there have to be some horror stories. Do you ever have conversations in the hall where you're like, I can't believe the questions I got today. But you think after all these years everybody would have all the answers. And but it's amazing. How many people do not they're cooking a Turkey for the first time or they've simply forgotten how to do it? Because maybe they haven't done it for your two. And yes, we do share those stories quite often. That's it. That's the gossip. I did everything I could to get these three to say something anything salacious about these calls. What is the most shocking? Call you ever received only ash shocking. What was the most challenging question you ever got? Oh, golly. What's the worst? Call you ever heard of that? Oh, gosh. You know? I don't think I've ever been blown off my share, really. Sometimes they haven't even remembered to fall their Turkey, you know, and they're just so stressed or mad or you know, they're going to be site themselves. Have you ever have callers who were rude or angry or just you know, sort of made you feel bad? No. I really know, you know, even if they are not in one thousand nine years, you know, what it's a happy place here, and we make we always end up pretty much with a smile on their face in our face, well listeners, I tried. If you want the dark side of the Butterball Turkey talk line, you'll need to find another podcast, but keep in mind. This is a company that put a Norman Rockwell painting on its Turkey packaging a few years ago wholesome is their brand identity. So the hijinks are wholesome to one call where is kind of a disagreement between a husband and a wife. So he was put on the duty of putting the Turkey in and making sure the oven was on. And she called saying that, you know, the oven is broke. And she was frustrated. It was upset. She didn't know what to do. Now about her Turkey since it's in the oven. He bumps on the phone. He's like, no I turned the oven on its on. And she looked like it's not on. So we're going around. We're thinking of some different possibilities. What we can do since ovens not working. And all of a sudden, the labrador comes trotting into the kitchen, and he's jumps up. He's smelling the Turkey he jumps up and he's turning after oven. So it's actually him that was going in the doghouse the husband was turning on the oven. But the dog kept coming in and topping it off with his paws. So it was pretty that was a very memorable. Call. I like that one. Then there's this unfortunate thaw story. Someone who's coming over work. She put her husband on duty for getting the twins clean up after school. And thawing the Turkey just getting everything ready for the night. She came in from after work, and she heard a lot of commotion upstairs laughing giggling, she went upstairs since she found. Her two little twin boys in the bathtub with this frozen. Turkey in there with it. The husband was like, hey, I did my job. It's you know. You know, I'm multitasking. And you know, she was laughing she called she's like it's been in there. Not very long a few minutes. Could I put this in the cold water and start thawing it, and how long would it take the fall? So it was a very cute question. So we got soaking in its own bath water. The twins got cleaned the Turkey got thought in it sink. And it was all good. Dog and kid mishaps are a whole genre of Butterball call. There was the mom who called margin told her about the time her two year old stuffed his matchbox car inside the Turkey before it went in the oven. And then there are the calls where the Turkey talkers, find themselves playing marriage counselors solving an even preventing relationship disasters. Like the guy who told Carol he had an unconventional plan to propose to his girlfriend. Young man was going to mix the diamond ring into the stuffing that was going to go into the Turkish like a terrible. I hello. Yes. Yes. It was. But you know, it was really important to him. You know, he is going to make the big proposal in front of the entire family. I could just think Fred getting the diamond and losing a tooth or ends a diamond wouldn't have come out with stuffing. I don't know. So we put our heads together. And I suggest that he took the diamond tied with a string on the drumstick. And then present that to his bride to be Carol never found out what happened, but she likes to think the girlfriend said, yes. But sometimes aren't there arguments and fights you have to referee. Oh, yes. I had one call from a young bride. She was kind of whispering. And I said, why are you whispering? And she said, well, my mother in mother-in-law or here arguing about what to do with the Turkey. And I decided I call you on the side and get your advice. And when I told her the way we suggested she was so relieved because it was her mother who had the right idea. And if you're wondering the right idea, let me save you a call. We always recommend using three twenty five and uncovered. Turkey for two thirds of the way and then tenth the breast area with foil use a meat thermometer. And then you'll be just fine. I feel like I just called the Turkey talk line. By the way, they say they don't mind if you call about another brand of Turkey still good marketing, maybe you'll get a Butterball next year, they think, but if you are going to call it helps to have any Turkey. So I guess I have to get a Turkey. Jake Dakhli kill the point the first step is. Yup. I'm still on with Tara. What do you tell people who call and they're anxious about pulling off the perfect thanksgiving? I said never fear fodder ball here. I'm happy to help you. We're gonna get through this. We're going to do one step at a time. Is that an official slogan because it should be mine. In a moment. The TalkLine invades pop culture. This episode of household name is brought to you by American Express see business differently. See big expenses as big opportunities. See no room to maneuver as room to keep growing. See another problem as how can we help see late nights as late nights? It is still business. Get the powerful backing of American Express don't do business without it. 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Why over six point five million members shop on zoo, lily dot com this month, only get an extra twenty percents off your first order when you sign up as? Z U L I L Y dot com slash household. Zulu dot com slash household. We're back. As Tara and her colleagues know too. Well, the Turkey talk line is one of the few call centers where you might not rush to get off the phone. There's no time limit per call. Here's Carol when you talk to them you were walking into what's happening in their situation that day there was the woman in her seventies who had lost her mother was cooking Turkey for the first time. There was the person who lost her home in a hurricane. It was living in a trailer. So she basically had a like a toaster oven and you annoy in a kind of a not even a microwave. I think she just had some little flat tops in that she could cook on so she and Carol played macgyver in worked out a way to cook. At least parts of Turkey. To become a Turkey talker. Like Tara March Carol or sue you'd have to go through something called Butterball university. Be you. The newbies get Hayes. They come to a an intense situation where they all have their own Turkey. And there we we roast Turkey in about seven different ways we line the turkeys up we look at the juices in the pan. We looked at the after this grueling class. The recruits are ready ready to talk Turkey. In recent years Butterball has added text messaging, they really wanted me to mention that you can talk to a recorded version of Marge on Amazon. Alexa, Alexa, opened the Butterball skill. Hi, I'm Marge. There you go. And they found that cooking technology has changed to we don't get as many calls about microwaving. In those first years people were getting those great big huge microwaves putting them on their kitchen counter. In the first thing they wanted to cook was a Turkey. But in other ways change come slowly at the call center. If you're having trouble with your Butterball Turkey this year, you can call in for the first time in the history of the Butterball hotline, they have men on the line answering questions because more and more men are calling in with Butterball. We've only had been about the less four four or five years that recently. Really, yes, why do you think it took so long the change? Well, I don't think they felt that. Men were qualified more men are calling the hotline now too. So there are a lot of men who need some help. So we have lots for men cooking. We have lots of young people who are away for their first thanksgiving, and they want to replicate what they've had from their families. And they're getting some advice as well. So those are two ways things have changed friends giving the thing. Now, that's another dinner before or after thanksgiving. It's often twentysomethings and that means more inexperienced cooks buying turkeys and calling the hotline people think alter key tastes what about runs traditional advertising? Swear by Butterball, someone say Butterball, but the real marketing genius. Is this talk line? It's a staple of late night comics, March herself had her moment of fame with Conan O'Brien. She's here today to teach us how to prepare a thanksgiving Turkey. She's the masterpiece about the March Clinton era, Stephen Colbert, answered real. Calls on the line in a panic. You were Turkey expert. You're just grab your Turkey expert. Well, that's mostly marketing and in episode of the west wing had a whole storyline built around president Bartlett calling the line you. Stuffing should be stuffed inside the Turkey. Am I correct? Be making a casserole dish. Well, then we'd have to call it. Something else. Would we? I suppose if I cook it amazingly, the coal bear in west wing, bits were not product placement. That's not to say Butterball isn't out there trying to get publicity for the talk line while we were working with Butterball in this episode someone else from their public relations team reached out to us to suggest. We do a story about the Butterball Turkey talk line. Yeah. I don't want to pretend that this is a completely. They're just as an altruistic endeavor. This is Kyle lock again, the head of marketing who likes to tell strangers. He works Butterball. We can't be cheap to have fifty people on the phone at all times. And but on the other hand, you know, you're getting Kobe segments. And I'm doing an episode about it. And so the there has to be some calculation there that this is worth it. Well, it's it's totally worth it. I mean, the benefit is tenfold. I mean, there's no question about it. It's not even so much about just the pure math. This is so core to the to the brand equity. What Butterball stands for is not only this amazing. Centerpiece product, this always gonna turn out, right? But that it's this entire network of support. That network of support includes Tara and she's in the middle of giving me a pep talk. Going to help you host like a boss and get the job done. We want to be confident and have all the knowledge. So that you can from start to finish make that Turkey. It turns out I've called Tara on a very special day. We actually have what we call national fall your Turkey day. And that today, what are the odds we've recommend people regardless of the size of their Turkey that they put it in a refrigerator today, and it should be thawed by Thanksgiving Day because you wanna have a thought Turkey so that it cooked evenly. So one thing we've been thinking about as we make this is is there a right way to do thanksgiving. Well, still still right way to do. Thanksgiving is the way that you wanna do thanksgiving as I said on this call with Tara, I kept hearing about the ways we should be doing thanksgiving the right way to thought Turkey to roasted Turkey to serve perfect side dishes. How to host family not everyone has thanksgiving with family and friends in a Butterball in the middle of the table. Sometimes you end up places like these Boston market ESPN zone. Subway coming up. Thanksgiving's that definitely don't involve Butterball. We're sorry. That was not a valid. Sean. Do you ever wake up feeling achey easily distracted or forgetting things equality night's sleep makes all the difference? And the right mattress is the key to getting proper rest instead of just laying down the Leesa mattress is the product of thirty years of experience and hundreds of hours of rigorous product testing designed for body contouring and pressure relief. 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I walk in the door in a mmediately will be hit with this amazing Roma of roasted Turkey and about a half hour later. We have about thirty five to forty people. Yeah, it it's awesome. It, you know, it's just a hop. Thanksgiving is one of those rate equalizer holidays in terms of you just getting together to meet together to be thankful to enjoy food and each other's aid. We wanted to hear about how you celebrate thanksgiving. So we opened up our own Turkey talk line. And you told us about some of your more unusual thanksgivings. I mean, I gotta be honest thanksgiving food doesn't exactly appeal to me our first call came in from Johnny Williams from Los Angeles. I think because I didn't grow up with it. So a lot of it for me like, well, if I'm gonna eat a bird. I'd rather have a chicken and Turkey today had an unconventional thanksgiving dinner, my sophomore year, college, I spent thanksgiving eating a Turkey sandwich at subway. At the time. Gina was living in Miami where she was going to school. She grew up as Jehovah's Witness. So holidays weren't a big deal in her family witnesses, which I am not one. But that is how raised they believe that all holidays are manmade and therefore not meant to be celebrated Jonah was going to be heading back to LA in a few weeks. She said it didn't make sense to fly all the way to the west coast and back so she stayed in Miami. And all my friends went home. So I found myself alone. My RA had given me a couple of DVD's to watch including life is beautiful so fat. They're washed it bawled my eyes out and then thought actually go gets food. And so I drove down the street down your one to that way in order to Turkey sandwich. And they're still crying. I was eating sandwich by myself. This is so lame cannot believe how lame is the day for me at that. I was thinking I mean, it was really sad movie. But more just kind of laughing at myself. I was banner Sakai to subway on thanksgiving. What did you think of the Turkey sandwich? Somebody was there for me. So I gotta I gotta show respect, you know, fast food gets a bad rap. But it was there for me. And I think you can't discount people's experiences because of your principles. Maybe that goes back to religion. Actually, I talked today the week before thanksgiving. So what are you doing next Thursday a week from Thursday? I don't know. Actual why what's that? It's a thanksgiving. Oh, right. And what do you think you'll be eating oh Turkey sandwich from subway? Now, I I really haven't even thought about it. I don't know. We'll see maybe out going to somebody's house. For information on Turkey, preparation and cooking system press were saying three, what do you think about chicken? I love chicken. It's not this week if yes, exactly chicken smaller version of a Turkey. But yeah. Still a great product. We we love our Butterball Turkey chicken is what made Boston market famous, but his biggest sales week is thanksgiving a lot of people get their Turkey dinners there. Travis dob. My name is Chris lackey Travis and Kristen or an opposite sides of the register in different cities on different. Thanksgiving's on the craziest day of the year for Boston market. I worked at Boston market on thanksgiving. We often go to Boston market which in itself can be kind of a production. Travis says he started going to Boston market just because their lives got so busy. They wanted to spend that time as a family not in the kitchen. Three kids and a very overworked, very dedicated wife and whenever thanksgiving rolls around. We like to take it easy and eat fast food rather than. Waiting for Turkey to come out of the oven. And so for them Boston market, even if it's not their favorite food, it just frees up all this time. It's sorta great because I can work the early part of the day and then swing by Boston market afterward. And then we're ready to go. It was wild. Very busy lines out the door constantly all day. Kristen was sixteen when she started working as a cashier you had people like knocking on the door. We up at ten thirty or eleven, but they're not that are right away. So for the most part, despite the number of people, it's pretty orderly because a lot of people order ahead online. So they just hand the receipt, and that's enough. They get all the Turkey. They ordered. But you know, people like, obviously cross lines. And so there are a lot of people who would show up that day like wanting a whole Turkey and ten things mashed potatoes and whatever for their family, and like that's not doable. We had to order everything super far advanced like my job is year old to be like, actually, no you can't have this Turkey for your family like. That's not you can't. And so I had a lot of people get really upset and one person in particular like she was like, I'm gonna stay in this line until you give me my Turkey. And like, I'm not leaving. And we were like that's not possible. Because then these people who ordered ahead will not have their Turkey for thanksgiving that they plan to head to have. And she was like, well, that's that's too bad. I'm going to plant in place until you give it to me. So Finally, I don't remember exactly how we compromise. But we did and gave her like maybe half of what she wanted. And you think that would be it she paid? And then she threw seventy five cents in Kristen's face, full resitvo. People watched it happen, and she ran out. And so it was like to ask for anybody to like react, call the police Kristen and her manager were so shocked by this that they had to cool down. Okay. I go into like walk in cooler quill off. And then like I wanted was like I so stunned by what had happened like quickly fall. But my boss who was just hysterically sobbing because it was just like. A scary situation have somewhat like throw change at one of your employees. Like, she didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to do. And then I just went back to working some people. Definitely react to the fact that you know. Oh, well, so you expect these people to serve you on thanks giving and have to go to work, and and I have to admit that something I do feel bad about you know, what you get into when you work there like people who are Toys R Us RIP like had to work on black Friday. You kind of know when you get into that. And so when I started working at Boston market. I was like, yeah. No. I'm gonna have to work on thanksgiving. That's fully thing. I think like anything if you're pleasant, and you're nice, and you're say happy thanksgiving, and you're grateful for your food. I think like you don't have to feel too bad. So what were the reactions you got when you told people that you get your thanksgiving a bus to market a wide variety usually discussed discussed. I don't think it's anything against Boston market. But I think it goes against a lot of people's sense of what thanksgiving should be people are used to the tradition of spending the day cooking. They're used to the nail biting moment. When you pull the Turkey out and hope that it's not too dry. And that you've done it. Right. And we've done that ourselves many times. But you know, eventually, we just relies that we got more out of the holiday. We had more family time. We had more peace in our household. If we had food that was pre prepared. I asked her what she thinks about this. What do you think about people who end up eating out on? Thanks giving me, but they end up at a chain restaurant or even a fast food restaurant. How do you feel about that? Like, I said, I think whatever works for you on thanksgiving. What's important? I think is that your time with the people you want to spend time with. Someone who loves chain restaurants. And it does not bother me at all to spend a birthday it a place where I can order the exact same thing. Every time next up a story from Meredith Goldstein, the relationship advice columnist from the Boston Globe and the host of their love letters podcast. She's also the author of can't help myself. I think we were stir crazy for my memory. We were stir crazy and didn't know where to be a few years ago. Meredith spent her thanksgiving with her mother, my mom, and I were in Maryland where she was still living, and I had grown up, and we went to Baltimore's inner harbor for thanksgiving. Baltimore's inner harbor is a big sightseeing hub with tons of restaurants. It's touristy im- busy. And it's where Meredith and her mother found themselves on thanksgiving ESPN zone sort of like came up as like it was just neon. I mean, that's what I remember thinking. It was like, whoa. That is big. And I think we were walking around in that area. And. Restaurants were crowded some were closed, and all of a sudden it was like well here we go. And I should start by saying that I am not a sports fan. ESPN zone is like not my maybe first choice with all the screens. And I remember it was like kind of we were feeling a little bit dark about it. You look around and you're like their other people here too. And everybody was like a little bit island of misfit toys, like these are people who were not celebrating that sort of American style thanksgiving. So if you're Jewish on Christmas, you're supposed to get your knees. Go to the movies, go be Jewish but thanksgiving, there's this weird other thing where it's like you're supposed to have a place to go. You're supposed to like get your big Turkey. You're supposed to see family and the family's supposed to be big. Right. So I think there's a little bit more anxiety, or at least there wasn't my family at that point that if we couldn't be together or if there wasn't enough family to sort of justify cooking. Where would we go? I don't know. I just found that like being in a place where no one quite belonged on a holiday where no one was supposed to be out in that way. Was I don't know probably. Weightless depressing. The two of us just eating at home at the ESPN zone. I feel like it was more of a frie- situation. Whatever it was. It was probably somehow more calories than I would have we made thanksgiving to wind up at the inner harbor in Baltimore, which is already so touristy at a place where it was like one massive screen after another. You know, what though it was like a super great distraction for two people who probably needed one. I think it was a weird time in our lives. Where like my mom was single. I was certainly single. But I was younger probably college age maybe a little bit older. And like after my parents got divorced. We were it we needed to feel rooted somewhere, and it sort of proved that like, you know, not to be choosy about it. But like home is where your person is an even if I was with my mother at an ESPN zone. I was still my mother, and that's sort of all that matters. It's always the weird ones that you remember? Right. So like the years that I had like a lovely Turkey and. Sat with family and everybody bonded. Sadly, don't remember. This is much because there as they were supposed to be at least in terms of what we're told with holidays. I think probably the best part of it was that we we could go home not have to do any dishes and get in front of the TV, which is kind of maybe also where we wanted to be. I gotta say I really didn't want to hang up with Tara on the talk line. Anybody on the hotline who is not the nicest person in the world. I would have to say you're not gonna find it unpleasant person. Here. We love doing the you have people who are calling on help. They want your expertise, and it just is a joyful to be able to share that you want them to have a great thanksgiving. You want them to experience that and just have really happy memories. Funny to me because you know, almost every other customer hotline. You would call the cable company an airline and things like that. It's just a miserable experience. And I feel like I wanna call just to feel good. I don't even need to make Turkey. I just wanna talk to all of you. I live in New York. So this is all, you know, this is a nice refreshing change. Yeah. How do you normally rep up these calls? What's your standard? Like, I usually say thank you for calling. And if there and anything else that I can answer for you today. And then they'll say, yes, or no, okay. Well, it's been a pleasure speaking with you. If you have any further questions, call us back or certainly visit Butterball dot com, which is open twenty four hours a day. 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