35 Burst results for "Oj"
Kristy Swanson defends Trump from 'cancel culture,' demands to be removed from John Hughes films
"Actress. Kristy swanson wants to be cancelled and she wants to be cancelled to support a president trump. So let me explain this forty five years ago. Well she's she wants to get in the time machine and b. Can't let me explain last week. Fans called for trump to be digitally removed from home alone two loss to new york and over the weekend. She tweeted because she was worried. Who want oh. We want to be digitally removed. Taken out of home alone to wow. This is scary and kind of tearing down. Statues is one thing but that digit physical but digitally removed. That's interesting yeah. I agree to this thing is like you're honoring racist or whatever but like he was in there was an extra ticket. Oj naked gun ignored. Berg gotta make berg. So she's kind of calling the bluff in some way says if cancel culture is really going to have donald trump removed from the john hughes movie Then in support of my president. I'd like to have myself officially removed from the john hughes films. Pretty in pink and fares. Buehler's day off now if you don't remember pretty in pink. She's at the very end. I think she's credited as like miss duckie. Because she's the one that jon cryer sees at the end and like she gives him a little wave and then the credits roll in fair to dealers. Day off. I think she's the one that does the speech about fairs like my sister's boyfriend's cousin's you know some fainted flavors. I heard it's pretty serious. That's kristy swanson. So she wants both of those clips removed. Of course twitter is just beating the shit out of her for this. You are in that. Who are you. Who cares but You know she makes a point. She kept her mustang in my warehouse for six months where you are right now. No i have multiple warehouses. Why i asked. Yeah i wish. I could remember the street name address but glendale with all that really how it got to me. Or she's needed a place to keep her her her mustang. I had no idea how hard core she was. She is hard goddamn core man. Twitter bio is like some about quitting. Proud mom god. I was very religious. I only know her second hand my dear friend lindsay parker who is in the movie flowers in the attic with her when they were when she was a baby i mean. How old is that movie. Remember from the mid eighty s. She worked with swanson played her sister and said she was
Introducing Melanie C
"Which spice isn't chris c. Whoo sport is only guacamole. Such massive part of my childhood. And i did resist telling her that. I know you're ready. M restrained so interesting high sort of conquering and sort of pervasive. If you will the spice girls wet especially to several generations. Because that's the thing about them. They were really you know from the little kind of five year olds to granny's loved them. Yeah so they have. People go the quake in their boots and go. You know jelly like when you when you have a spice girl ryan and ask do i. But of course. I have my inside knowledge. Having been in the spice girls film you were in the spice coast moving their less. So you're you're an unofficial spice boy like i think i've got thing on my wallet a card from them and it says to our special space boy That's so nice. It's a lovely well. I think it's a lovely about mousy is that she was at the time always described as being you know. It's this sort of slight outside of the spice girls because she will tracks is basically and she didn't ascribe to all these really narrow ideas of what a woman is and actually she was bucking trends back then and Has sort of had this reinvention as someone who's become even more central to the oj bt community by doing going on tour with the paying and yeah for someone who's been through like unfathomable fame. She's just this wonderfully reflective generous kind person. Yeah and i'd also really interesting. But melanie is that she is the sort of. She's the one who's had the biggest music could he had in terms of. She has stayed in a as a musician. I guess Jerry said more hits and things. I suppose but she's actually being kept out and i think that's what's really great. She was like the to sort of musician and she stayed a musician. Yeah just plow to making our own stuff on. I just think. I really admired her. Because she's I've loved our work over the years. And i think she's still doing it. And she still making these records and putting onto saying and reinvent as you said reinventing ourselves. And i think a great voice and she's just great spirit
New Yorker parts ways with Jeffrey Toobin after Zoom snafu
"Legal commentator Jeffrey Toobin's lost his job at The New Yorker magazine the announcement came from Jeffrey Toobin himself a long time staff writer for The New Yorker who's been dismissed after reportedly exposing himself during a zoom conference call last month to been rights he will always love the magazine missed his colleagues and we'll look forward to reading their work the sixty year old Toobin had been with the New Yorker for more than twenty years writing about everything from the OJ Simpson murder trial to the impeachment hearings of Donald Trump two bins also put on leave by CNN where he's been a legal commentator I'm Jackie Quinn
Justice Department Files Antitrust Suit Against Google
"We've been waiting for it and yesterday it dropped. We're talking, of course about the Justice Department's antitrust lawsuit against Google, the DOJ is alleging that Google is engaging an anticompetitive behaviour to preserve its monopoly in search and search advertising. Here's associate. Deputy Attorney General Ryan. Chores he's overseeing the tech investigations at the OJ. Google unlawfully maintain these monopolies through a web of exclusionary and interlocking agreements that shutout competitors. For example, do collectively pays mobile phone manufacturers. Carriers and web browsers, billions of dollars each year from its monopoly search advertising revenues to be the preset default search engine. This is by far the most effective way for a search engine to gain users. It's most people simply use this to fall chores also pointed to the fact that Google prohibits other search applications from being preloaded on phones companies android operating system. We have started legal affairs reporter Brent. Kendall to break down your statement. Here's what he said what he's basically saying. Here is look in this country there's nothing wrong with having a monopoly. If you do things better than everybody else your products are better and people flock to you. That is all well and good. But once you're there and you have a powerful position, what you can do is then take any competitive steps to prevent anybody else from potentially challenging you and so that's what they're arguing here and they say these billions of dollars in payments to preserve Google default search on on. Variety of devices and platforms. Shuts the door to anybody else ever getting into this space and providing any sort of competition to Google, and so that's that's the basis of of what they're arguing here. The Google it's not illegal to have a monopoly but what they're doing is is taking illegal steps to maintain it a spokesperson for Google said the DOJ's lawsuit was quote deeply flawed and that consumers use Google because they choose to not because they can't find alternatives. The suit represents the most aggressive antitrust case in about twenty years, but it could still take years of legal back and forth before there's an outcome. Brennan says it could shake up silicon valley either way we could end up with is pretty remarkable circumstance because we'll have this google sued and very well may be that the FTC as we reported recently could sue facebook by the end of the year, and so you would have these two marquee once in a generation cases at the same time in which the federal government was was suing you know two of our biggest and most. Important in leading tech companies, and so that could have all sorts of ramifications. I. Mean and it could it could filter intersect with other parts of this debate. I mean, maybe facebook and Google when these cases, but it could also be the case if they win, you have people in Congress, they look the fact that the government couldn't win these cases shows that the law work and we need to step in and do different things here.
O.J. Simpson verdict announced 25 years ago
"Trial people in Detroit and all over the world were watching and will never forget CBS correspondent Steve Father and reports It was 25 years ago. Today, the verdict was announced in one of the most sensational trials of the 20th century. The OJ Simpson murder trial never had a trial captured the nation like the OJ Simpson murder trial, he killed Nicole Brown. Ronald Goldman. The case lasted more than eight months Loyal a law professor Laurie Levinson, had celebrity and had famous lawyers. It had a who done it the key piece of evidence a bloody glove. The prosecution said it belonged to Simpson. But when Simpson tried it on, it appeared not to fit if it doesn't fit. You must acquit. And when the verdict was announced 25 years ago today by the defendant, Orenthal James Simpson, not guilty In a later civil trial, Simpson would be found liable for the killings.
The O.J. Simpson verdict was announced 25 years ago
"25 years ago today, 25 years the verdict was read in one of the most notorious trials of the 25th 20th. Century. That is C E O. J. Simpson Murder trial. What was it about the OJ Simpson murder trial that captivated millions loyal a law professor Laurie Levinson had issues revolving round race. It had issues revolving around domestic violence. It had a huge amount of media coverage, and it had a controversial verdict. We, the jury in the above entitled Action, Find the defendant, Orenthal James Simpson, not guilty of the crime of murder. The nation was divided. People were set in stone, the either thought that O. J had been framed. Or they thought, In fact, he got away with murder and a quarter century later. I don't think anyone has changed their mind regarding the verdict in that case. Steve Futterman, CBS NEWS LOS Angeles
French Open 2020: Serena Williams roars back to beat Kristie Ahn in straight sets at Roland Garros
"Open Open tennis tennis first first round round continuing continuing this this morning, morning, the the sixth sixth seed seed Serena Serena Williams Williams beat beat Stanford's Stanford's Christie Christie on on 76 76 and and six six love love on on lead lead early early 31 31 and and 42 42 Before Before Serena Serena came came back, back, won won the the first first set set tie tie breaker breaker is is seven seven to to also also Coco Coco Golf Golf Yesterday. Yesterday. Upset Upset Number Number nine. nine. See See Joanna Joanna Conta Conta three three and and three. three. Other Other matches matches of of note note this this morning morning Number Number three three Dominic Dominic Team, Team, the the U. U. S S Open Open champ champ beat beat Marin Marin Chilis Chilis and and straight straight sets sets and and Nishioka Nishioka from from Japan. Japan. Upset Upset number number 19 19 seed seed OJ OJ Aaliyah Aaliyah Seam Seam of of Canada, Canada, 53 53 and and three three
The CEO of Team Secret on Dota 2 & Team League Models
"So can you talk about like the you know the foundation of take grit out is different to say traditionally sports organization you know how the how the play is kind of at the center of everything. Sure sure you know when I look out in the ecosystem and not everything is like this right but a lot of teams are It's a it's kind of split where a lot of teams are player own operated in lead right which which is really good for content creation engaging with the community that kind of thing but usually like on the business side economy falters. And then you know you have a lot of new entrance into east sportswear. It's a very traditional business executive-led right whether it's you know a private Equity Company that invests eastwards. Put say a leader in place or someone from traditional. Traditional. Media The comes in place and weeds on these sports team. Where connection to the fan base in the audience is not so great. And generalizing here, right there's all different kinds of other other models I'm for us. We kind of saw this happening and what we wanted to do was to say, okay, you know, I, come from a background of traditional business. I can come run the business, build the business, but we wanted to also have very authentic and have a huge amount of player lead influence into how we build the brand into how he engaged with the fan base and the community and so that's why you know working with the DOE team has kind of foundation we said, let's build out team secret originally adopted team, but we can expand the business. We can build it into an actual business rather than just a, you know a player T-. Even today you know we. on the business side, you know run the business but on the ownership front we have some players that have ownership in the business and are also involved in the day today activities. You know we've been lucky enough to have on the PODCAST and scraped content with a few kind of like OJ's is the industry especially you know you had. We've had God's. All the you know he's being paramount in in a lot of commentary and building the same globally and we had pay p day kind like the shining light out of trying to build anymore it's America We've had unloader from Sweden as well and I guess you guys have another one especially, which is in the interim with poppy. So I'd love to I'd love to talk from your perspective around a lot of my discussion with paper day especially was around the business structure of the way that daughter to works versus are other Games. So there's like an article that came out about a Singapore tame, which is just disbanded was like the the shining stuff out of that region and. One of the major reasons they said that it that it disbanded his Ju to just a lack of understanding or the lack of support from valve in the to infrastructure it's it's you know it's great presence and cradle content around how you know the DOJ to international is the largest single single price police boats tournament. You know thirty plus million dollars in the first place team will often walk away with ten million dollars in the pocket and it's fantastic. You Ajay and you win those inter but it's it's not great if you don't qualify for the international or you know if you want to rely on something other than simply pros money so be interested in talking about. How do you say that the dietary market obviously guys legal agents Tuesday say by Candidate that franchise very strict model of detaining applying onset and Thomson indicts. You've got all that structure heady. This is done until you, which is just really all over the place but but massive priciples. Yeah I mean I think there are pros and cons of both models I think in. League of legends at the the model tends to be more Even across more equitable across tons of opportunities where all the teams and I think in Doda, it's very much like feast or famine I if you know. If you look at all the teams right from previously is it's like. Either you're a top four team and you. kind of break even or slash make a small profit or you're not a top four team and you're just like losing money all the time. Basically note right and it's like the the price was a little bit of a Mirage because. In Doda, the majority, the vast majority of the price will go to the players and this is not knock on the players because I think the players are super telling that they deserve everything that they that they earn right But outside of price full, there's not a huge amount of other opportunities except for direct sponsorship. For teams actually drive right and you need teams because you know. Not every player is like some players are very mental to be in contact creators influences on all that stuff but the vast majority players I know just WanNa, play I. WanNa play, and so in order for Doda and Doda brands to to build into sort of products. And to market the players into engage and build the audience and do all these things. You'd Orquesta do that right? Because the players are not going to do it themselves and they didn't WanNa do themselves they want to they want they WANNA play right? They want to figure out strategies they want perfect game. And so you need to have an ecosystem around as supporting structure around that to be able to enable them to do that as well as. Create this product around Doda so that the fans can engage in consume it. And I think the I think the finances did the structure Doda is is dangerous because you know the the the kitchen seen not not super well supported even in the tier one scene beyond top four teams I don't think you're doing too well. and you'd see you know teams exit. You see teams go in and out. I'm for these reasons because it's like you either you're winning all the time and you're kind of stable from that because you have some price earnings or. You know you're just like middle of the pack number seven, number, eight, I, I don't think you're doing too well. You're really relying on brand sponsorships and things
Joss Stone launches 'A Cuppa Happy'
"PODCAST host Red Circle has launched a new automated ads platform that makes it easy to buy host read ads on thousands of podcasts. We've simplified the buying experience in what has traditionally been a very fractured market CEO. Michael Cayden. Congratulations to the pod fest global summits who claim that they've just hit the number that sets the Guinness World Record for largest virtual podcasting event in a week, here's a fun Friday facts for you. The Guinness World Record for the largest glass of orange juice was set by podcasting robed greenlee way back in June one, thousand, nine, hundred, Ninety, eight, it measured two thousand three hundred thirteen litres. Here's a TV report from the day. This is. The huge glass of orange juice from the Florida, citrus people, and this is rob. Greenlee tells you give a message here with this big glass Oj don't you? Yeah. Our messages to drink more orange juice drink more issue's defaulted Poltrak have released that top twenty US podcasts for July twenty twenty surprisingly cereal has risen from below the top fifty up to number eleven because of the publicity surrounding the New York Times purchase of cereal productions May. Occur. Only measures participating publishers. Semi box is a new podcast studio setup in Nairobi that lets anyone record a podcast come in record within twenty four hours. They'll send you a finished version to share with the world according to an interview with Polar Roca. Timber media has interviewed me show Yussef the producer of the missile Obama podcast Gaffey is now integrated into headliner to allow you to add stickers and gifts to any social video you make of your podcast and Hey James it's me Alexa. EXA wants to know another thing my masters at Amazon want you to do in your podcast according to their terms and conditions. Let's talk about incontinence three. After if you mentioned incontinence products in any advertising in your podcast, whatever it is, they won't tell me then you can't have more than three ads every day, but I'm just appalled Kosta. How would I know how many ads people have heard and sorry I can't help with that point and thank you tearing Newsham a CO founder of ignificant noise for becoming our latest personal support with grateful for many personal support zoo. Help US produce poured news every day you can join eric at news dot net slash support Any podcast news happiness. What is it? How do we find it at? How do we keep it once we have? Singer and Songwriter John. Stone. has launched her own podcast at copper happy which launched on Monday featuring interview with illusionist Darren Brown and smokescreen faked priest is the story of Father Ryan Scott who was accused of swindling millions of dollars over thirty years new from neon hum media. It launched yesterday,
Cultivate Calm During Chaos With Neil Pasricha
"Welcome everyone to this lead x Webinar with Neil Pastor Rita. Thank you so much for joining Neil. Past reach is the author of seven bucks including the book of Awesome. The happiness equation Awesome is everywhere, and you are awesome. His Books Are New York. Times and number one international bestseller's and have spent over two hundred weeks on bestseller lists and sold millions of copies. Neal is one of the world's top brings speakers and his first Ted Talk. The three days of awesome is wearing to one of the ten most inspiring all time. He thinks rights to an speaks about intentional living, and all of his work focuses on the themes of gratitude, happiness, failure, resiliency, and trust welcome Neil. Well. Thank you so much for having me guys. On this cold slash hot sunny slash cloudy Friday afternoon slash morning. I am in Toronto Canada. And it is cold and cloudy and the afternoon here, but I can already see people chiming in on the side Jason's. That's good morning from. Kansas, happy Friday everyone. Guys, please. Let's the chat open that box open on my screen the whole time. I would love to be reinvented time. Why because right now? During coronavirus, one of the biggest sort of needs I feel that I need and I feel like you probably feel it too, is community. Connection. betsy, high from Boulder, Sonya Hi, from California. This is wonderful for Michigan Los Angeles anyone not a not from America it'd be great to hear as well. I don't know. Who I'm talking to the other thing that would be great to salvage front before we get into our exciting conversation. Cuban a love all the texts coming in, thank you is who knows me so when I ended up. Speaking to groups of people, hundreds of people like I'm doing right now. What I don't know is who have you have read the book on some or Oj Geek from India I'm hearing these great ones Calgary. High highly shot cloudy Gog always touting car, isn't it now I'm just kidding but I almost called love. coury loved the Chart Cut Restaurant downtown props to independent restaurants bookstores. Guys got to bring him back. So I. Don't know who's read any books book Balsam the happiness equation you are. Does anybody listened to my podcast three bucks? Maybe some of you were when you get to hear me other places has anyone ever heard me give a speech a Tedtalk? Have you seen like dislike me? Know where you touched my stuff, if at all, or maybe you're like I have no idea who Zappa at me so? You quit your Yapper, but let me know so I'm seeing a seeing I'm seeing some Yeah, Berta, I've never heard of you until now. Diane says you are not unique to me, but I'm already intrigued. The says I've read the happiness equation. oh, I watched you on. Ted Ted or lead Ex. Yeah, so there's lots of I like the newest Story never heard before. Guys don't be sorry. There's eight billion of us in the world right now. I'm one person My community, which I'd like to welcome you into. Is You know one hundred thousand people? These are people that want to live a deeply intentional life. The reason I want to do that is because about ten years ago. My wife left me. My best friend took his own life. These two things happened in the span of a few weeks. I was devastated I stopped. Eating I stopped sleeping. I! Was a skeleton of myself mentally physically psychologically, and then I started a blog called one thousand awesome things, dot com, and for thousand straight weekdays I wrote an entry. Cheer myself up like old dangerous playground equipment like the smell of bakery, air or wearing warm underwear from out of the dryer. The blog took off one best log on the world two years in a row one hundred million hits. It turned into a book called the Book of Awesome so that book here the black. One came out sold. A million copies was a big bestseller I thought that's my fifteen minutes of fame. I kept my job at Walmart the whole time. I got my blog went by. Everyone gets like one viral fleet in their life and their life, but it kept going, and it turns up. I needed to when I got remarried five years later I ended up writing a guidebook to my unborn child than how to live happy life that became my book called the happiness equation more recently. Now I have three boys, five three and one very happily married my wife, lastly on lucky say, and ever in a brand new book all about Resilience Okay so you are also came out last November. On Book Two right now, but of course everything shut down that about resilience. The subtitles had navigate change, wrestle failure and live in attentional
'Golden Girls' House For Sale at $3 Million
"But the one that I'm talking about today is the home that they used for the exterior shots on the golden girls. So this is the golden girls. How it's not the one that they filmed in that was filmed on a soundstage, not in Florida at all. But when you saw the exterior shots of the house It's this house that is now for sale. It was built in 1955. It's a 29 100 square foot home. Four bedrooms, three baths first time since 1955 that the show this home has gone on the market, Bob, it can be yours for just under $3 million. Where Where is it? It's in the Brentwood area. A nice, Yeah, the Brentwood area and so very nice neighborhood. You know you're driving. I looked it up on Google and you? No, I'm looking for the address, and then you pull up on the home and there it is. It's just like all those shots that you've seen. Ah, the show Where you driving around there? Because you want to look at the O. J. Simpson house, which I think is not there anymore, right? Yeah, I think that's the case. I wasn't looking for OJ's house. I was just being a complete door Tourists.
Ford decides not to unveil the new Bronco SUVs on O.J. Simpson's birthday
"Ford Motor Company has decided that maybe it's not a better idea to reveal the new Bronco I know J. Simpson's birthday W. W. J. out of it reporter Jeff Gilbert with this story the reborn Bronco will now be revealed on July thirteenth fortis said they didn't know July ninth was OJ Simpson's birthday when they chose the date university of Detroit mercy marketing professor Michael Bernacchi says Mr shows how big companies have to carefully plan everything they do you're going to be very careful about everything there's too many things happening yes absolutely there's no doubt about that yeah Ford says it decided to move the Bronco reveal date to be sensitive and
"oj" Discussed on You're Wrong About...
"All her friends will confirm that I've been totally loving and understanding of what he's been going through. Not True at times I felt like a battered husband or boyfriend I loved her made that clear to everyone and would take whatever to make us work got. He had to throw that in, didn't he? Yeah, you know sometimes. I felt like a battered husband. 'cause like she's so terrible, but anyway yeah, she's recently died and I didn't do it. It's like really dude. You can't just skip that clause one time. Yeah, he couldn't not say it I felt like a battered husband unbelievable. And so he concludes with. Don't feel sorry for me. I've had a great life. Great friends please think of the real OJ. And not this last person. Thanks for making my life special I hope I helped yours peace and love Oj, and then inside the O. and the. The happy face an Elwood's move I think this signs autographs then okay, and so as Bob. Sheehan is preparing to read this letter at this press conference. He's nervous. Obviously and Bob Shapiro was like just read slowly. Jack Nicholson has made a fortune of speaking slow. I'm really interested in heroes like Jack Nicholson interests like I and I also love that. He apparently watched wolf the night before because a movie recheck Nicholson is aware wall. And then the next day Kardashian is like. How do I read this letter and Bob Cheryl's? LAKESHA gotTa do a Nicholson just I. He sold me on that were. So, they read the letter. And then when reporter asked, why did Bob Cried Sheehan read the letter at all fair question because it doesn't make okay look very innocent. Yes, and my Shapira says we read it because it is the only words that we have from OJ Jeffrey. Toobin says this answer says much about the Karen Feeding of celebrity clients. OJ wanted it done, so it was done. Jeffrey toobin does not like any of these people. And someone asked what are the last words he heard from Otane. He said my personal words with him. Were of a complementary nature to the way I had been with him, and for him to thank me for everything I had done the day. Like. Always be selling, Bob, you know what he said to. My rates are really low. I'm always on time. And, so after the press conference, Bob crashing goes back to Rockingham. Being guarded by officers and they're like we can't let you in, and he's like I'm okay. Simpson's Dr near like okay doctor Yes. And so they let a man, and he goes to talk to Cason and are now as children from his first marriage, and he's basically like I'm GonNa level with you guys or he loves you. He wants to have all the money you need. And so based on all, that is his opinion that their dad is going to kill himself rather than go to jail. Whoa, he just tells them that. He apparently really thinks that's going to happen. Yeah, he's breaking it to them like as news pretty much. WHOA and Jason Panics and Runs away and starts to cry and our Nell just sits there. Staring at Bob Silently crying and he's like your father loved you so much. and. He just felt he had to do this. And then one of the other family members whose there you know, they have the TV on. It's like wait a minute..
"oj" Discussed on You're Wrong About...
"Let's fly people in and put them at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel Yeah. Let's do a second autopsy. Every henhouse Doghouse treehouse house for five hundred mile doing the Tommy Lee Jones. I watched that movie a while ago and I was like these matter and love. Okay so Oj the doctors come to give him a physical and Bob Kardashian. Ever be practical. Friend is like OJ. It's like almost eleven. You need to turn yourself into the police by eleven. How do you think Okay Simpson react I WANNA say negatively. Okay, says according to Card Actions Account. Why should I hurry? What can they do to me? But this is also kind the weird thing that like. They sent him a calendar. Invite for unrest rather than making an arrest. I mean this is what marshes been saying since day. One right that like why? Why are you being like well? If it's not too much trouble OJ, can we go ahead and a ding-dong arrested? For this calmed. We're talking about somebody who potentially killed two people. It's very weird that this is all he has to go there like pick up his lost watch or something. Yeah, okay, it's like the LAPD are my pals. They come use my tennis court. They ignore me beating my wife Right. The law has never applied to me before. Why should it be now? Yeah, and Bob Kardashian. Kardashian apparently says you're right. Take your time. What can they do like Yep, good point and watch appearance is like no J. Like we do like my word. Kind of means something like I would leave the police to continue to believe me like I work with them right so yes, we do have to get you there by eleven like I'm sorry to ruin the fun. And so okay apparently accepts this. And Bob Shapiro keeps being. Please hurry because he wants okay to arrive at Parker, sent her quote in his Mercedes well-dressed. Calm dignified. An impatient police contingent found them Encino. Oak would be hustled away in handcuffs. Common Criminal? No one was willing to say the words, but they hung in the air made yet. This is he understands it. This is a press event as well as a criminal justice event, you need to produce images that are congruent with innocence and the PERP Walk, which is bullshit in all circumstances. Yeah, talk about the PERP walk. Actually because some people don't hear those words immediately clear mental image this thing where they basically parade a suspect from like whatever one building to another as they're in the middle of the arrest process, and it's perfect. Perfect for allowing the cameras to shoot them like these are the Paparazzi photos. We always see of suspects being march one place to another right. This is not something that they do in other countries, and this is not something that America has done for a long time like this is something that is invented for the newspapers. This is not something that has to be a part of the criminal justice system, and so it's essentially the police being complicit in the production of images that imply somebody's guilt, which makes things much easier for prosecutors and. Bob Shapiro. I don't want my client to be front page of the newspaper. Looking like yes, quote unquote a common criminal. Yeah, and five Shapiro of course is absolutely right, and I love thinking about in the same way that I love thinking about Marcia Clark on the morning of June thirteenth. Being like my dusk is almost clean, and I feel like my life is like calming down..
"oj" Discussed on You're Wrong About...
"Eavesdropping Oh and a hoarding to American tragedy. Okay says I've told you everything before I've got nothing to hide. And then he starts talking about how he can't understand why. They're not looking for other people. Obviously, these murders had to be committed by two people Yup Colombian drug traffickers favorites involved. We all know more convincing. The story it was the Colombian drug traffickers that are after famous nick and anyway so Bob Shapiro I mean well. How okay let's let's imagine you have. Bob, Shapiro's in this moment first of all congratulations and I'm sorry. What do you do if you like you? Go inform your client and you're like. The police needed to turn yourself in in a couple of hours. They're gonNA charge you with double murder. If you have anything to say to me before you go to jail where you probably will be held without bail. His. Please tell me now and if your client immediately is like I. Don't know why this is happening. Why are they looking for two people? I've already told you everything like what what do you do? I mean I struggled to put myself in the shoes of Baja. Just because so many. You wouldn't have taken this guy. Why would I be doing any? First of all, I would be trimming my eyebrows secondly. I would not be representing somebody like OJ. Simpson be massaging whenever they put into catcher's Mitts to make them supple. Face. I mean I don't know I. Mean isn't the whole thing with lawyering. That like you have to believe your client. Even if it's a little far fetched well, yeah, I mean Bob Hero is not mandated to use it. Offense dictated by what his client says, and initially he's going to be like okay. What if we go for diminished capacity? That can work right like no. I need a lawyer who believes in my innocence, and like that is probably the most significant reason why Bob Shapiro gets pushed out and Johnny Cochran emerges as Oj's most important lawyer. Bob Shapiro alienates himself from OJ pretty early in the game by not being faithful enough to OJ's emotional reality is basically you know at this point you know. They spent a few days kind of talking I. Think he can gather that Oj is like very attached his version of events, and that it's like a integral to his identity that he's not bad guy lake that seems pretty clear, and so I think that if I were Bob Shapiro would be like I am not..
"oj" Discussed on You're Wrong About...
"Schwimmer. So satisfying to now, yeah. And then David Schwimmer will of course go on to play, Bob Tashin Ashen and the people vs OJ Simpson the Ryan Murphy, show and the world will go on to forget the existence of the movie wolf entirely. Okay, so American tragedy. Be Lawrence, Schiller. Book Has Auguin Paula Barbieri standing in the side yard, holding each other I want you to leave Simpson said she was carrying defiant. I'm not leaving. I don't want you to see this look. I didn't do this thing. I love you and I want you to stay strong I'll be alright AC has money to get you back to Florida. They gave her the money. And robuck says Paula was crying wouldn't get in the car AC given the money and get her out of here Simpson, said angrily her dashing and cowlings half escorts. Half bodyguards got in the car. It was embarrassing. Paula is depicting her phone. Okay is having this fairly prolonged sweet moment where he's like. You remember that guy you told me about back. Home Hind Him Mary him instead and in this version. Okay is basically trying to get rid of her. But which one do you think is more plausible I am inclined to believe the substance of what Paul is saying, but maybe not. That happened so nicely as depicted. You know he's like he's been pretty heavily sedated this week, right? He's not making a ton of sense. He's seeming kind of affect plus. It's interesting. That Paul writes a scene where he's able to really like show up her right, but on the other hand he's historically. Kind of thing kind of on autopilot so like. Seems likelier to me that like the man writing a book about like the defense team who seemly. Very uninterested in Paula. Generally like she's barely depicted in this lifetime, we're ready to believe that lay it happened, but that like Polish version of it makes that may be nicer than it was. Yeah, or they had that conversation two days previously, and she's sort of poured into the scene because it's like its narrative, more convincing that way. That's true, too. That happens a lot in the way that we remember things like. We unprompted, will I think subconsciously kind of stick together parts of different memories to make a coherent story kind of depicts the whole of a relationship. And if she's giving herself that moment at all, inaccurately than like whatever..
"oj" Discussed on You're Wrong About...
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34. Lets talk about save-a-dive kits and Healthways an original scuba equipment provider - burst 6
"Several months ago, I did a segment on voight. One of the original five scuba equipment manufacturers in the United States. As a reminder, those original five were decor. US, divers swim master Voi-, and health ways, and we know that void bought swim master in the early nineteen sixties. Today. I want to continue the discussion on these original five with a look at health ways. My research took me on some interesting twists and turns. A relay what I pieced together. But I'll caution. The things might not been. Things may have been a little bit different than what I present here. First. Let's talk about the founder of health ways. That was Richard Klein. Richard was born in one, thousand, nine, hundred, six in Maine. And he enlisted in the marine. Corps at the age of fourteen. Back then I guess you could get away with lying about your age. While he was in the Marines Richard studied calisthenics in bodybuilding. and. When he was discharged, he ended up in Atlantic city acting as a strong man. That's when he was discovered by a paramount pictures executive who brought him out west to the paramount studios where his job was to make. The movie stars Look Fit. While in his job, at Paramount Richard Started, a company called health ways. Hollywood and Nur tagline was America's way to health. The company had a wider range of fitness equipment and early nine thousand nine hundred fifties. They had water sports. Department that included things like Basques spear guns. And Fins and they called the Finns Webbie's. In one thousand, nine, hundred fifty four health ways obtain distribution rights to the LG. Declare regulator. If you WANNA learn more about LG Arpan. There's a great article in one of the old journal of diving histories by I'd liberal shelf. You can go and do some research on that. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, six, Richard Hired, Richard, E. Dick Anderson to establish a scuba equipment department. Diver Dick Anderson is interesting, Pioneer and scuba, and I'll probably have to do a podcast just on his accomplishments. They're pretty extensive. Diver. Dick also brings on Sam Lecoq to help him design house ways own regulator. They introduce their double hose regulator and name Scuba. I guess the copyrighted the name. Scuba I read somewhere that because of this copyright. US divers had to go with the term aqualung. The scuba regulator was produced between nineteen, Fifty, seven and nineteen fifty-nine. During this time both Dick Anderson and Sam la coke had left health ways. Sam Start at sports ways another manufacturer and produced a regulator that he called water lung. The water long. Caused some litigation with US divers because they were using the term aqualung. Don't know how that turned out. By one, thousand, nine, hundred, Fifty, eight Dick Anderson rejoined health ways, and he was the chief engineer of research. By nineteen sixty, the company was producing a new model called Scuba Deluxe. Health wise also developed scuba. Pack Harness. The Scuba Star Scuba air in something called the snark. Air SORTA like a snorkel with a pony bottle on it. By nine, hundred, sixty two. It looked like the company was developing a line for professionals called scuba pro. Well Richard Klein hired Bonin and Gustav Delay To head. Up this line. But. Unfortunately health ways went into bankruptcy on December nineteen, sixty two. And you'll find Dick Bonin and Gustav Della Vella Bought Scuba Pro for one dollar. And started what we now know today as scuba pro. But wait, there's more. And this is where things get a little hard to reconcile. Richard Klein unfortunately died in nineteen, sixty three. But health wage did not. According to Alec Pearce on one of these youtube videos, health ways continue to make regulators for scuba pro. I tried to find out more about the bankruptcy, and it took me to a document from the Small Business Investment Company Program from August one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty three. Near as an entry that shows health ways of having sales of two point, nine million dollars with ninety six employees and a prophet of twenty, one thousand eight hundred dollars. It looks like they got some investment money and statement said they were on the road to profitability and operating in the black. Somewhere along the way health ways was acquired by elden industries in Los Angeles. From what I gather Eldin was a may have been a toy company, and it's really hard to find out information about them. In any event, the last thing I could trace was nineteen seventy-one Scuba Cadillac from health ways that showed it as being a subsidiary of elden. I also read along the way that they sold scuba equipment to sears Kmart nine, thousand, nine hundred seventy S. I wasn't able to actually nail down when health ended. So my journey to find out more about one of these original five US scuba manufacturers provided some fascinating twists and turns and Lake Oj all journeys I passed a few interesting side roads. Some I went down. And others yet to be explored. Hope. You enjoy this look at health ways.
The realities of coronavirus aid distribution
"Stimulus money for the federal cares act was scheduled to start flowing tribes this month but there have been a few snakes. Currently the Treasury has yet to announce how they will distribute the entire eight billion tribal dollars in Corona Relief Funds Corona virus really funds but in addition the distribution of the money in the cares act is drawing considerable backlash from tribes over what they see as an inequities and it's becoming clear that a generous As the relief is it won't come close to some estimates for what is needed to spare tribes the worst of the damage To both public and health and local economies. One of the biggest fights in all of this is over aid going to Alaska. Native corporations a lawsuit filed by tribes and tribal organizations is on the table in federal court to try and stop the mill multibillion dollar for profit entities from getting money they say is intended for federally recognized tribes and of course Alaskan Native Corporation say otherwise today. We'll get more perspective on that but we'd also like to hear from you. What do you think about all of this or even eight billion dollars set aside for tribes? The number to join us is one eight hundred nine nine. Six two eight four eight. That's also one eight hundred nine nine native today. We're GONNA start off in Alaska Mike Williams. He is a tribal chief of the AC EAC native community and he is Our pleasure to have him here with us. Chief Williams. Welcome good to be here. Thank you end Mike There seems to be a lot of shifting and changing when it comes to all of this including a hearing that took place this morning and anything you can report to us on the latest of what you heard in that hearing this morning. Well I got up five o'clock this morning and got in Alaska time at five thirty and And listen to the hearing this morning and and and I think success that I've heard this morning is That judge denied the DOJ from Extension to Monday and The schedule will be extended for twenty four hours only and And I heard that. Doj's brief Do this evening at five. Pm and And their reply will be Tomorrow noon and And the hearing begins tomorrow afternoon And you know things could change along the way. But that's what I heard this morning into Mike would actually is up in the air I think The dishes in for the Treasury to decide to into the Alaskan native corporations In Culver Nineteen money And that is in Dispute Right now and And that's what I'm hearing. And that's what's in there in. So Mike would was the justification that the the OJ used for wine and extension. What was it they were still working on. I am not sure I think Concerns that We have Was that The deadline is on Sunday. The April twenty six to distribute the money to the tribes and If there is an extension there's questions of That money You know Is who would be in question and But You know we're happy. That's judge I did not extended to Monday in for you Mike. If it were extended beyond Sunday what would that mean to you? Would you say that the government has not filled its obligation? Yes I think With the Emergency situation that we are in With the covert nineteen starring in our face that It's That money has to Land to the hands of tribal governments to fight this pandemic. That is Threatening are Community residents Right now we have seen And heard the stories of my grandmother In the pandemic of nineteen eighteen where there were mass deaths in ack-ack and other villages here and mass burials and that left a lot of orphans In our villages here and that didn't stop there with TB TB epidemic and but it's staring in our face and we cannot Delay that all that measures to To get to our tribal governments
Tom Brady & the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
"While the suspense is over. We now know that Tom. Brady's me going to Tampa. Bay buccaneers thirty million dollars per season. Which was what Michael Lombardi had predicted? It was going to take to sign Brady. Twenty Seasons forty-one Playoff Games thirty playoff wins tour in one thousand nine regular season. Wins SIX SUPER BOWLS. Three League? Mvp's seventy four. Thousand five hundred. Seventy one passing yards and five. Hundred and forty-one touchdown passes Tom Brady is leaving New England. Mike. Quite a resumes. Put up the greatest player and NFL history and the box have not had a pro bowl quarterback since two thousand fifteen when James Winston was a rookie and look at the town he's got now Evans and Godwin OJ Howard. And so on you. And I were thinking charges. But you'd said charges or bucks and Tampa Bay now that we know it makes a lot of sense because the offensive weapons and as you would sit yesterday's pod and of course you can check it all the GM shovels. We talked with Tom. Brady and detail. The key is that Bruce. Arians is willing to adjust his offense four. Tom Brady yeah no doubt I mean first of all I think in talking to some people yesterday proximity to New York was really important to like. He wanted to be able to get on an airplane. Fly Back to a you know whether he buys a home in Greenwich or somewhere. After a game on Sunday fly back spent a couple of days his family come back to Tampa and do that so that was important. Easy flight turnaround so that was there and look. This is just a tremendously great. Human being I mean Brady literally face timed most of the people that he worked with at the Patriots yesterday. Obviously being safe from People Xinhau and not could he could see anybody facetime and thanked him. I mean you're talking about one of the great human beings and it didn't work out a New England for a lot of different reasons but I think now. Tom Gets to become a little bit like manning he gets to be able to go down to Tampa he can run his offense however he can put the offense and there's just no chance no chance Byron left. Which is telling Tom Brady what he's going to run right. There's just no chance of that. Nor is Bruce Arians. I think we'll definitely see. There's been a lot of reports out there about Antonio Brown. I think we'll definitely see Antonio Brown in a buck uniform. Add more skill and I'm sure they've promised him they're going to rebuild the offensive line. But he's going to have a say. I mean Jason Light. The general manager of the Tampa. Bay buccaneers has just hired an assistant general manager. His name Tom Brady and they're going to do everything in their power to make Brady happy. They've already increased ticket sales on season tickets. It's of fork for them. We'll see if it works out. It's amazing to think Mike. And you know this with your time in New England but the Patriots Way and where guys go Mike. Rebel is traded the chiefs Randy Moss shift to the Vikings. Vince will work with the Texans Adam. Vegetarian a great second career the colts and your window. Now it's going to happen. Tom Brady with Tampa Bay. Like you said Byron left which is oh see. He's Tom Brady tells him and he's got lots of weapons. Right there Evans is probably the best receivers play with since Randy Moss. And now you can see why the line is already jumped at. The box. Went from forty to one odds to twenty to one odds to win the Super Bowl. He gets paid which is important as you would guest thirty million dollars a year. That's what he's GonNa get didn't make sense for economics but here's the key. I think when it comes to Tom Brady is. How much does he have left the tank and for all the Brady fans they would say listen? His receivers couldn't hold onto his passes right. He did not have enough weapons around him. Well now he's got the weapons and if you believe that. Brady's still got some magic left for a couple of seasons with clearly his leadership and his Moxie and his talent and a smart board than anything will lift this team higher to where they go. Jameis Winston. They're seven losses a seven of the nine losses. Last year had eighteen turnovers guy was turnover machine. So theory is as long as it doesn't make those turnovers completes passes gets things done. There's no reason why the box to have very quick turnaround next season. No doubt and I mean look todd. Bowles has done a great job with their defense and they've got more cap room to spend on what they WANNA do. We don't know what the structure of the Brady contract is. But the idea that there wasn't a market for Brady. Obviously there was a huge market for him at thirty million made more than Philip rivers at twenty-five we'll talk about him in a moment but I think for the first time in his life. Tom Brady wanted to be able to go somewhere and kind of do what he wanted to do. You know and to be. I don't WANNA call Patriot like but I mean for the Patriots to spend thirty million on a quarterback and then spend more money in free agency that violates their culture. That violates everything. They believe in and for him to do what he wants to do what she deserves to do at this point in his life. He's earned it to go out and kind of be. I think this is like a great coach. Who finally wants to be able to run his program right. You know. I've been operating in this system but now I want to go into another system and that's how I look at this with Brady's movement I mean he was never going to be able to do what he truly wanted to do in New England. Now he can do it there. He can do it in Tampa and no one's GonNa tell him he can't. I think the concern. You have to have a few of the box. Is You know. Tom Has got to relate to some of these younger players. And that's GonNa be you know. We spent a Lotta time understanding millennials in New England understanding. How he's going to relate to that because there is a huge gap between Tom and these other players. I think getting someone like Antonio Brown in there who tom loves will help them. I know that sounds crazy. But it'll help the other players in the room kind of have a relationship. Can you imagine? Antonio Brown's the great pacify higher. I mean can you imagine that? I'm saying that seriously. They give out that eighty. He's the bridge so if they did that and they improve their offensive line.
Hollywood moment: Harvey Weinstein's sentencing
"Today. The disgraced Hollywood producer. Harvey Weinstein will be sentenced last month. He was convicted of rape and criminal sexual assault and faces up to twenty nine years in prison. Prosecutors have urged the judge to consider what they called a lifetime abuse towards others even though for most of those alleged abuses. Mr Weinstein has never been charged. His lawyers have petitioned for the minimum sentence of five years saying that any longer could constitute a defacto life sentence after Mr Weinstein conviction the Manhattan district attorney Cyrus Vance Junior said. The change had come to America. This is a big day. This is a new day and I hope women will will understand the significance of the jury verdicts. Today is. Optimism was echoed. By some of Mr Weinstein's accusers and their lawyers is a historic. I never thought I would see in my lifetime. Change has come today. I have a message for Harvey for all of Users Rape Myth perpetuators victim blaming and knows retaliated against sets. This one's for you. Your time is up. The allegations against him formed at the start of the metoo movement very public example of what remains troublingly hidden kind of crime. It would be easy to see his conviction and imprisonment as a high point for me to next. He'll face charges in Los Angeles for crimes. He continues to deny. Just how much any of these cases will change. Things is far from clear hustling surprised. Sasha Economists Public Policy Editor Mr Watson case certainly wasn't a slam dunk. Some people may have had that impression but it was by no means a straightforward case. These sorts of trials of radio really complex and in addition is to watch team faced accuser's stories straightforward. In a way they were very representative of a lot of these cases in the sense that they fit coach. Roy Do rape in being something that happens with a lot of force and a ski mosque by Stranger instead. These women told stories of complex relationships including ongoing contacts with Mr Weinstein off to the souls and typically juries have really struggled with this kind of cases in fact most of those cases that make it anywhere need a jury and to that extent. Actually very atypical case. Because of course Mr. One Steen's case as well as the accusations have all played out very very publicly of in multiple accusers. Zubin spelled out in the media. One thing that made it question unusual case is that the judge allowed extra witnesses women who would not pass the charges against Mr Weinstein to nevertheless testify over previous aqel bad acts that they had experienced at his hands. Allegedly it certainly was quite controversial. May well be part of the grounds of a possible appeal by Mr Weinstein team. And what would that appeal? Look like it's Hampson. No I mean concerns have been raised about whether Mr Watson could have affected trial in given all the media attention publicity particularly in New York City before the trial. His team tried very hard to get. The trial moved to somewhere where they thought he might face a forgiving jury that was thrown out. This is a long process. Take easy setup two year and I guess one of the questions now that people Rossi's while is he gonNA get out to bail can continue to monitor while that process is ongoing which is has begun wanted to run up to his trial. So you say the result is a bit surprising and and certainly prosecutors and plenty of commentators have held it up as a sort of watershed moment is a sort of a apotheosis of the of of the metoo movement that essentially was launched. By by these cases. What's your take on that I think? The watershed which is an awful lot immediately after the valid. And I understand it. I mean this was a high stakes trial. Which the Manhattan. Da. Couldn't afford to lose so they threw themselves out this only on the hands. I think as as many celebrity trials we have to be careful with Conclusions hair. I hope it will be a watershed moment. There's an awful lot wrong with how sexual. Violence is is investigated and prosecuted. But I have my doubts. I think the the real test will come when single women also group of women come forward to accuse somebody of rape without the media attention right without. Will the inefficacious if you will of the accuser has been an awful lot of emphasis on how powerful Mr Weinstein is but his accusers. Happen quite powerful as well. Essentially they had public opinion rooting for them. And I think the real test of whether the the Weinstein verdict will have a BRUDER EFFECTS. On how serious criminal? Justice Systems. Juries take these kind of complex claims will only come when we see an everyday victim. Come forward with with a typical claim of sexual assault. So what you're essentially saying. There is that celebrity. Justice is fundamentally different. I mean why do you suppose? That is I- celebrity justice in general is just is only certain. Becerra was it is just different from normal justice putting old big bright lights and attention onto someone being accused in this case Mr Weinstein. That's a typical way of injustice remedy a J Simpson trial which was essentially works like a soap opera. Essentially didn't have that much impact with how of the mothers were investigated then tried in Los Angeles and I think the same will be the case with the wider significance of the wanting conviction. Today that said there is of course important symbolic function to mocking. Somebody like Mr Weinstein up and holding his feet to the fire. So I said he wouldn't diminish the symbolic importance of seeing someone powerful like him wrote into a cooled. Convicted unlocked. Up is just going to be careful with suggesting that. Will the other huddles that stand? In the way of getting justice for everyday victims have now disappeared. I mean the one distinction here between Mr Weinstein's case and the OJ Simpson case is that Mister Simpson was was acquitted whereas Mr Weinstein has been convicted. Don't you think that that at least has sort of knock on effect sort of casts a shadow over over future cases gives future jurors a sense that That that there is an example being set there. Yeah maybe I mean future jurors in reminded with this case that rape doesn't look the way they think looks so it's been very helpful to have this very public lesson. If you will in rape myths that rape is a complex crime that said we pull people every year on their attitudes dissection. Rasmussen doing that. Insensitive metoo movement took off. And in that we don't really see much of a change in public attitudes to sexual harassment and indeed in America way would have hoped that reporting rates of sexual violence had increased most under reported binding crimes often me to after an initial bump reporting rates of back down to what they were before me to see. Let's see what happens next year. You know it always takes a while to get the kind of data but be careful with two inches at this point.
Mastercard Names New CEO
"Some breaking news just in from Mastercard. The company says that Chief Product Officer. Michael me back is going to become the new. Ceo Next January first the Currency Agyei bound is going to be transitioning to the role of executive chairman at that time. Of course we should point out during. Oj's tenure that stock has increased more than fourteen fold prior to assuming the CEO role me box going to become the president of Mastercard. And that's going to be happening on March first. All of this comes of course. Just a day after mastercard warned that its revenue could take a two to three percent. Hit this quarter because of the corona virus. Some of the things that they talked about in that released last night That concerned the markets is not only a slowdown in terms of cross-border Travel that's taking place but also cross-border e-commerce people being afraid to even buy things and have it shipped here as well. You know you know the story of the stories in amazing storage. I mean his own personal stories in amazing story. But what's happened mastercard? Over these years is an amazing
President Trump pardons former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich
"The issue is former Illinois governor rod Blagojevich he was freed from prison after he was granted they commuted sends by president trump and yes yes yes yes I know this was not a presidential pardon he was commuted there is a difference pardon means basically you're absolved of all crimes you get to go Scot free that's a pardon whether it's done by a president or or governor etcetera being commuted means it's just changing the type of punishment you still guilty but your charge less for example in again this is not applied to Broadway bridge which is to just to be clear it's like if you were given the death penalty and the president commutes you're sentenced to a life sentence you still guilty is still in prison but the penalty was in essence reduced that was the case for Robert boy **** the former governor of Illinois was serving a fourteen year prison sentence for taking bribes back in two thousand nine to sell the Illinois Senate seat that was vacated by Barack Obama the blood going which is the governor Obama wins the presidency back in two thousand eight Senate seats open the steel line from Scott Walker when he became governor Robert go age it's basically just said Hey this seat is open for business my friends actually he didn't say that you don't he said I have the core here he basically said and I have to believe myself out I've got this thing and it's a bleep in golden ticket after all it is the Chicago way this is how politics is done in Illinois well he was caught and he was caught rabbit my goodness you thought OJ was guilty as sin you thought the evidence was overwhelming there I I I can't think of anything more cut and dry then look away which is guilt no one denies he was guilty but it was sentenced to fourteen years in prison spend behind bars since two thousand eleven until yesterday president trump basically we descends letting go Scot free
"oj" Discussed on Skullduggery
"That's my main issue. So look I mean. The Principal Obama operated under is that were a diverse country with with diverse interests and they are reflected in the congress in our political system with vastly different perspectives on the world. Then you guys have and so then the question is do you try to work with people like that to compromise or or is it all my way or the highway. What and what gets something -CCOMPLISH sear? Okay what are the diverse interests. What are the diverse interests? We're a country of diverse. People are very Christian and other people are very secular. Diverse sows are not really really political interests. Like generally we have some ninety percent support for religious pluralism. No one knows what very few people WanNa make a theocracy when you say diverse interests like that it sounds like I want to eat spaghetti for dinner I want to you know what's another food was going to say. But that's close yeah. Those are not very diverse. That sounds like we're intra-party. Oklahoma what do you say diverse interest. That's what you make it. Sound like think of diverse. I interest I think I own this copper fucking copper wire factory. I WANNA pollute this river. I WANNA dump writing toxic waste in the poor people they wrote and then in another interest might be. Hey I live in the poor people neighborhood. I don't WanNa die please. Yeah well look I mean. There are perspectives that the free market system mm-hmm and capitalism is is a better way of managing of having an economy than state run bureaucrats. Telling you and I what we should do or what healthcare we should have or reg- whatever I mean that is the you're not agree. But there are people who legitimately we have different philosophical perspectives on the best way for a good society than the ones that you do and they've got some pretty powerful powerful arguments in their favor by looking for starters at the performance of socialist systems over the many decades and their many failures. How about why doesn't Scandinavia ever count? When these things are how come how come with actually has money to begin with and socialize as opposed to countries that are in the imperials aliens have turned away from the Democratic Socialism? That was its hallmark in the fifties and sixties. Let's say hold on a minute though see. That's that's always what happens. It's like what happened. Oh they're not socialist anymore really their way more socialist than us and if we start if we said if and if you said let's do what they're doing now which is it used to be but still way more social than it is now even though that's an example of them not being social city more. It's still socialist for US though. So the thing that use that that's not a socialist and therefore proof of capitalism's victory or whatever. It's still too socialist for us. It always it always will be because has this has nothing to do with ideology is it. What is fond of pointing out? Norway Sovereign Wealth Fund controls a much bigger chunk of its economy than Venezuela yes. It's much more state run. Norway has a larger percentage of its economy under state control than Venezuela does. Not and. They're both they both have oil wealth at the base of it. And that's that's just a fact. All right you guys are burning is the. You're all in for Bernie. Let's look at the rest of the Democratic field and your sense end of Buddha Chech- because someone told me that you guys don't really like Mayor Pete and that you did you say that he might be asset. Paul said that his record is what's the base. What are you based on? What vacation Shen in Somalia to Somalia that some conversations with a guy about wait a minute she molly land and then which is awesome all IAEA breakaway area and then he met with local leaders like we all like to do on vacation and wars and he did it with a guy who he somehow co wrote as a kid a New York Times op ED with a guy whose entire resumes USA ID and charts of the Agency for Retain National Development? It does have stated. Don't also been documented connection to the Central Intelligence and so they. He went to prison there or something like but wait a second Joa. You guys are serious that you think or is there something. I don't know what it just throw this out there don't even if he wasn't his record. Well I don't understand what actually makes actual a Roger Stone here. Sounds you see this. The one argument against Mayor Peeping CIA agent is is you know if if that fucker could put ya on his resume talk secrets. CIA Guy you would not hear the end of it. That's your she. He's ashamed. Okay so look if judge where to get the nomination and be the nominee against donald trump. Would you support him with a support. Me What he would you. Vote form form. I've lived in New York with differences. Like well you cast a vote. I mean I wouldn't. You probably would not virgil. I don't know would you want him to beat trump. What difference does that make this whole C.? Knows ship speed same. I just the guy not what we want about anything does it. Matter guys. Audience has gone listens. Essential Argument fucking luggage crossroads. Weird a crucial moment. We either changed the way things are done or we go down this road that is leading. Okay all right so mayor P and whether or not made gives a shit the neither one of you would commit to even voting for him against Donald Trump. What about closure? I don't care as I said for me. It really depends what the general election campaign how that shakes out all right so this is a maybe vote for clover. Here's what's observing in other words. We know that what what people like mayor which are saying now as kind of frankly shitty is what they're saying now is what they're going to be saying in eight months is going to be different all over again all right more. Broadly if amy club with Char If she gets the nomination than pivots at the Convention says I'm a Nazi. I have a national title socialist in the Hitler kind and I'm more of a Nazi than trump sir. And I want I. She says that she wants to make America white at those state and murder all the minorities. I would not support her. I would want her to lose rather than asking about you guys. Let me ask you where you think. Thank your audience would be if you obviously have this very intense Bernie Bro. I if if Bernie it doesn't get the nomination and it's not Warren who assume would be your second pick and it's one of the others Biden Buddha judge cloture where where do you think your audience. I'll tell you this and I hope everyone listening. Who is on the fence? Maybe they are. Maybe they don't like Bernie maybe they're they don't think he can win or whatever. I'll tell you right this this our audience will as a block refused to vote for whoever gets the nomination which means if it's not burn. Yes which means that for everybody. Who unless you said is concerned? First and foremost with the trump they are morally obligated to vote for Bernie in the in the primaries. He is the only one who has a significant chunk of people who will not vote vote for the nominee which means he have to pick him because if he doesn't get the nomination so if you're really concerned issues there collectability right you have to pick burning or okay okay. I got one more question about you. Guys which is it's a generational question because you guys are like twenty thirty a years younger than we are and you've probably come across to some of our audience as angry guys cool blue. Yeah a little angry and I want to hear we. Would you agree that. You're you're angry about the situation in this country right now. Is that a fair. Yeah Yeah okay so I think and then start talking about it so so. That's what I wanted to probe a little bit and I think there are a lot of good reasons for people in your generational generational cohort to be angry. But I wanna hear from you guys. Why are you angry? Why do you think that you guys have been fucked? I guess by US are mostly by. Yeah so just talk about that a little bit. How he's a fucking now but you? I heard you guys don't do. I don't think that's right. I don't I don't take seriously this idea of generational politics I it pretty clear. And you've got a copy of our New York Times bestseller book. The Chapel Guide to revolution a manifesto against logic facts and reason and make pretty clear in our book. I think like to think that we what we're recommending people use as your ristic for explaining explaining the economy and political situation and frankly the material forces that shape their lives You shouldn't look the culture. Don't look to to to this you know boomers versus says biennial generational divide look to your material class interests to dictate. The you know political circumstances we find ourselves in who in America gets to live where gets to do what for living or even has to work who who you know as a group collectively whose interests are represented by Congress by the presidency by the judiciary by the DC land and which views gets promulgated in the media. Well that would be US right. Yeah Ok allies on that note. I kind of liked that tagline for this episode. That's the title of the episode. Anyway thank you guys for coming in driving US thanks. Politico Co founder John Harris and the host of Chapo Trap House Virgil Texas and Matt Christian for joining us on this episode.
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"Of course he was the racist cop who was on the scene investigating waiting the the OJ the murder of OJ's wife and friend and later turned out. He was a racist cop who had a history story of prejudice against African Americans. No evidence that he tampered with with the evidence but it was enough to raise doubts for the members of the jury that wanted to believe. OJ's version of events. And I thought you know Peter Struck is the Mark Furman of the investigations into Donald Trump. A guy who was the top. FBI Agent Investigating Trump and Russia crossfire hurricane McCain and had these clear bias against the president. No evidence that he tampered with evidence or did anything improper in in his official duties but the fact that he came from a place of extreme prejudice against Donald Trump. What a a lot of people would think would be for good reason but no question what he was writing? He was the Mark Furman of the Russia investigation. Yeah I guess so. Well Although Muller identified that early and fired the guy a mature that he was not connect. No he did he. He booted him off the case but it began crossfire. Hurricane began premolar as the common thread. I think Michael between all these Back to OJ Simpson The Bill Clinton impeachment that we covered now the trump impeachments. It really comes down all at the end not to the facts of the case it comes down to one question. Which side are you on? That was Clinton Jaren old lefty folk song. Which side are you on woody? Guthrie come on my museum. They're going to help us mark. So you in this piece you wrote you right with great insight on the perception of trump supporters Out there this must have gotten you also to think a little bit about about the reality of it and I guess that's what I want to ask you which is the perception is clearly that the the professional classes you put the insiders the elites have stack the decks against us and I guess the question is how do you actually sort of analyze that premise. Do you see it that way or is there something else going on here that in our culture I mean the tribalism for example apple all of the other kinds of structural issues in our politics that have driven people apart and driven people to want to support Donald Trump. So what what is the reality here ear behind these perceptions in your view. Well I don't accept the reality is of course I wouldn't and this is probably my own tribalism at work. Somebody would say but the I don't accept the idea that are non ideological media like politico are sort of hopelessly biased or or or carrying it agenda that that's not the tradition That Michael and I he grew up in At The Washington Post or you did earlier in your career Daniel I do just reject that. I do think it's certainly true that that a lot of Democrats were on the record. Even from the very beginning of the administration wanting to impeach trump and many trump supporters view it through that prism look. Look look if it wasn't this to be something else you want to victim from office. It's my guess my great concern. It's a concern about our business in the media and it's concerned turn more. Broadly about the political culture is that we've lost some of our mechanisms of accountability because if any factual matter can be be looking at face value but only through the prism of whether it's a weapon or a shield and some kind of ideological war if every institution is affected by hi This mentality which side are you on. It really weakens the ability of culture a political culture to impose accountability. It's really hard hard to see. People have made the point many times. It's really hard to see a repeat of nine hundred seventy four with Nixon when his time was up when Republicans blekinge came to him and said Mr President. We are now with you. If it had only been which sign on and Democrats he my wealth so so then what is the levers of our muscles of accountability. They've got to be pretty weak. So then the the follow up column maybe should be what do you do about it. What is the prescriptive element here? I don't really have an answer to that except that I think what's going to change. This is is one side or the other in our politics is going to win decisively in a way that we haven't in for twenty years or maybe early forty years. Reagan had had a big big victory and was able from that point on to sort of impose certain assumptions in the political debate. But starting with kind of Gingrich and Clinton it's been essentially essentially a jump ball in battle for power and I think until the pendulum decisively shifts. You'RE GONNA have investigations as a form form of partisan combat. You're going to have a mentality that nobody believes what the other side is. is saying and that everything is geared to the next election the next battle. How would you expect to see? A trump like figure emerge on the left as well in other words. This is not just a phenomenon of of the right in our politics. It's not but I do think Democrats is historically the party that believes in government and has a lot of affirmative -firmative uses for government is not likely to move to somebody. WHO's so contemptuous government? Because you've got natural fit Bernie ZANDER's and to some extent and Elizabeth Warren who they're tapping into a lot of the same anger and contemptuous status. WanNa blow things up up and yet. They're staying within the rules. They're not finding alternative realities alternative act contemptuous of institutions a government or institution. Asian or broadly whether to the media whereas a lot of conservatives that's the essence of trump. They are contemptuous they are in a nihilistic frame of mind they do want to blow it up couple couple of great lines in the piece really limped out of me one right towards the top with talking about the responses. You got with sincerity candor. And even even a measure of wistful idealism. People shared their views of a political and media culture. They believe is cynical at its core if almost nothing his on the level almost anything goes. Yeah I think that That describes the world. I see I don't know if Michael the world is it is is it is reality right now and I wonder just following the impeachment drama as it plays out and I want to get get to your own reflections Twenty years later on Clinton impeachment versus this one but yeah we heard so much from the Democrats. Let's in November and December about the urgency of impeachment about how trump was a clear and present danger to the Republic a public and this needed to be done right away and then we get to the articles passing the house on a purely partisan basis basis. And as we sit here at this moment now this may change very quickly but as we sit here three weeks later after the articles past Pelosi has yet to deliver them to the Senate and seems to be plant. Engaged in this game of Political Gamesmanship with Mitch cacahual and I just wonder if you think that you know will feed the view of this whole thing as being cynical to its core. I mean for people who are predisposed to believe that it will. I don't personally think it's fair when people describe it as urgent they didn't mean an urgent. The sense of a ticking bomb like in a James Bond on movie and the thing will be diffused with seven seconds to go or something. I think they meant urgent. In the sense that if an institution allows the another institution of government to just be contemptuous of a of its demands or constitutional responsibilities. You fundamentally we can the institutions in a long term way and you sever that that kind of muscle of accountability and so in that sense. I think this would be what Pelosi would say like like if I if we acquiesce to this. If we yield to this defiance how do we ever reverse that press but having donut having done it. Why why not pull the trigger and take it to the next level? Or what is the advantage of it sitting there clearly. She's not going to get Mitch McConnell to cave on the rules. Now what do they think that they can get a handful of Republicans squirming to. Do you think they're squirming. I think the optics of this are actually not helping the vulnerable a not putting pressure on vulnerable Republicans like Susan Collins is or is not is is not that I don't exactly see how this is accruing now to Democrats advantage but I don't think it's necessarily hypocritical. Would she democrats I think particular Speaker Pelosi. We're trying to institute to assert institutional responsibility and they saw all that effort beans or before or ignored by the other chamber. This is like I don't think it's I don't think it's hypocritical. ERTA try. Let me let me actually go back to the Clinton impeachment. Because I think there's another point that I think indicates why some of those things that could have fed some of these cynicism that exists exists right now and to the point of your column which I went back and I looked and Schumer back then when Clinton was going to be on trial he voted for an immediate dismissal. Yeah he voted against bringing witnesses to the trial. And then you look at like Lindsey Graham. You know he he was four witnesses is he was a house manager and he is right and he is flip flopped on their positions from twenty years. and that's exactly what McConnell said just recently McConnell. who was asked about this? He said yeah go back and look how he basically said. We're it is tribal. Go back and look at our records. Everybody has done this. But isn't that why I to some extent the voters who are writing to you feel the way they do with those voters are right right. And that's what I'm saying is a political process. It's not a if not. What was the line? If nothing is on the levels on the level anything anything goes we actually wrote. Almost all my yeah. I didn't want to be unfair to the people I was quoting because I yeah so I throw that and I think they would see that almost nothing is on the yeah. Hopefully they're still a few things but there are precious few. I think That are on the level that the right it's infused with politics takes and it's easy to find hypocrisy and I could have written a whole article just flipping it from the Democratic Perspective and gone collected all those examples Schumer. I thought this was more relevant because not a Democrat who's pressing the United States. It's a requirement and listen on Pelosi's posturing I think it's like doc. Allot of things in Washington. There is a high minded explanation for it and justification for what she's doing but there's also clearly a political talk to her working. Yeah I mean I think it's it's much more narrow than that. You Got State of the Union coming up first week in February. She doesn't want the trial to have taken place and him to go give his State of the union claiming vindication and being you know getting the thunderous applause from all the Slo Chamber after the Hangzhou President Trump to be delivering state of the Union while while the trial is going on. And you know if she she holds off for a little while longer you know she may get that and You know it colors is the bill and there's going on right. There's a lot more Senate Democrats who would rather be an eye and New Hampshire. Should I'd say we're taping this on Thursday afternoon. McConnell said today Senator Baucus he expects the trial next week which means the expects Pelosi to to deliver on Friday we will see and our listeners will know by the time they're presumably listening to this but we didn't think that she would be able to hold out this long we I didn't and I listening to are today our news conference. She seemed Pretty Cagey. She said. No probably soon. When I'm ready he is the way she put it Clinton impeachment? You covered it. You wrote a great book about The Clinton presidency and then and now the way Clinton handled old impeachment versus the way trump is handling it similarities differences. Well much more struck by the differences. Bill Clinton decided that he would survive this. If he could convince people that he was more worried about their problems as he liked to say that he was about is and so there was this phrase. I think I helped inflict on people at the time compartmentalization and certainly you adopt came into a lot of my copy. I think must been somebody over at the White House and we kind of bought it at the time because is it was true. You Know Clinton would appear give speeches. Impeach wouldn't pizza would never come up. I think it was only later after the presidency and I went back to it and wrote a book really yes. It was true in terms of the public image president inside the White House. He was of course he was conceived the rages he baits such I- Pricey basically lost year of his presidency and he lost much more than that because he had a project that he saw his second term as being likely to carry out or if he was going to he was going to move the center of the country in the same way. That Ronald Reagan did he saw himself as somebody who was a great unifier and could basically create a new democratic Arctic party from the center that would last for generation after that was his ambition that was completely demolished by the Lewinsky scandal and in the impeachment and we're had no choice but to do everything he could to keep Disparate elms the democratic coalition behind him and and he basically lost his second term and he lost What would it could have been the possibility of really creating something? Big there'd be Clinton it just like reaganism but instead there was allegations of a vast right wing conspiracy right. I mean the imperatives of the right what you need to do to win the knife fight and look so much of what trump has done publicly on twitter time and again to excess was being done regularly by the Clinton White House. He's just more transparent well of course in it surrogate so I never had those aspirations because trump's entire political strategy is is the base. He doesn't want to build something bigger Daniel. That trump has done the Clinton would actually in certain plum loved to have done Clinton despised. FBI Director Louis.
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"Michael ISIKOFF chief investigative eight of correspondent for Yahoo News. I'm Dan Kleinman editor and chief of Yahoo News so just a few days ago we all thought we are on the precipice of war with Iran. The Iranians were vowing revenge in the wake of the Assassination of General Sumani ordered by president trump trump everybody was expecting a pretty swift and potentially lethal response from the Iranians. And then they fire off these these missiles that don't hurt anybody at A. US Air Base Not Americans nor Iraqis and it seems as though Oh we dodged a bullet or dodged many missiles you can say precise Laura. Yeah I think. In in hindsight the likelihood likelihood of really hot war with large amounts of troops on both sides and invasions and tanks. I think that was not likely it was scary it. It looks like that's where we're headed but it was not in either side's interest to pursue that kind of clash. I do think that it's going to be ugly for a long time. I think all the conditions and dynamics are still there for a long and bloody proxy war Asymmetrical Warfare I. I think there's going to be a lot more bloodshed going forward. The Iranians want America out of the region. I think they feel like they have momentum the Iraqis after all the voters in their parliament to kick us out now that was a draft legislation. That may not happen now but I think that is where things are headed did and it isn't that the way they were ever since trump pulled out of the The nuclear deal Iranians have stepped up their attacks on. US interests in Iraq and elsewhere in the region. They've stepped up their support for Hezbollah for the Islamic Jihad in in Gaza for the Hootie rebels in Yemen. So I'm not yet sure how this fundamentally changes the dynamic of where we were. Look I I heard of custom Silla Mani in two thousand. When I was a foreign correspondent based in Jerusalem and I was covering the withdrawal of Israeli forces from southern Lebanon which they occupied for a couple of decades Sulamani was running that Hezbollah insurgency against the Israelis as I remember in the last weeks of the Israeli occupation visiting Israeli soldiers in their bunker? I'm still haunted by the frightened faces of those soldiers who were fearing the next suicide bomber the next roadside bomb the next rocket that would hit their bunker. It is a slow bleed strategy and it is highly effective and they don't need Sulamani to run it. The Iranians have been doing this with their proxies for generations. Now so oh. They've got time on their side. And we don't and I think either there will be a swift withdrawal or they'll be a long bloody eh withdrawal. I don't think it ends well for the United States under either scenario. Yeah but look I. I'll just make one final point on. This is before we give the Iranians too much credit for their military prowess at first when we learned there were no casualties on that airbase missile attack. We thought a lot of people thought that the Iranians may have deliberately steered their missiles away from where. US troops and Iraqi troops as it turned out were stationed at the airbase but now that we learned today as we speak that it was a Iranian missile. That shot down an airplane airplane taking off from their own airport. It makes you wonder if You know maybe they are as screwed up as our military sometimes minds is certainly in aiming after potential threats but look we we should be talking also about what may be. He is finally on the eve of an impeachment trial. We don't know Pelosi was is still withholding those articles as we speak but McConnell analyst just told his caucus he expects the trial to begin next week you know I I just don't know how much Pelosi is gained by withholding holding them. She certainly put the focus on whether there's going to be a vote for witnesses or not but even if you take McConnell's finals own rules you know from the proposed rules based on the Clinton impeachment. It seems to me once the opening arguments since are done there will be motions to call witnesses and those Republican senators who are facing reelection. Action will have to vote anyway. Yeah the point I think of Pelosi's strategy here was to put more pressure. Sure on those senators. If they had gone straight to a trial there would have been less time. There's been a public debate about this question of whether there should be witnesses and the theory theory was that that was going to put more pressure on the Susan collinses and the Lisa Murkowski's and the Cory Gardner World. You know. Maybe that she waited too long and at this point like everything else in our politics everything moves so quickly it's already been baked in. It's already been discounted and maybe it won't have a significant impact on on those senators senators. This is hard to predict. It's going to depend very much on the dynamics in the individual states and races and and you know what those individuals senators facing acing and we just don't know one thing that did happen during this interregnum is John Bolton the former national security adviser who widely believed believe by Democrats anyway to be a critical witness potentially one that would be very harmful to president. Trump came forward put on his website that he now would respond to a subpoena in the Senate trial. And so we'll have to see what I have to say. Count Me Skeptical on that front. That Bolton is really gonNA stick it to trump. He's kind of hinted at that. But you know this is a guy. Conservative live Republican ideolog for decades loyal to his party and his vision of the world and I should point Out that on the he made the announcement posted the announcement of his willingness to testify on the website of his Super Pac Bolton pack. And it's right above a previous release announcing that the Bolton SUPERPAC had endorsed for re election and presumably will be funding. The campaign will be funding. The campaigns actually making contributions to the campaigns of Tom. Cotton of Arkansas Cory Gardner of Colorado Colorado Thom Tillis of North Carolina Zinger in the house. Kin Zinger in the house and Lee Zeldin most of those pretty solid trump supporters. So the idea that Bolton is going to be the guy who brings trump down. No I don't see see that. He is not the difference between acquittal and removal from off. So what are the Democrats getting their. Here's what he is going to have to iffy testifies he he is going to be testifying presumably publicly released a videotape deposition to all the things that we heard he said and did in those house hearings which she's saying that he didn't want to be any part of this drug deal. That was being cooked up on Ukrainian and Sunlen by the price. And that's the key that is and what doesn't go if somebody doesn't go beyond what we already know. Look it will not be decisive still still. It's a real person. It's it's it's the closest adviser to the president in this whole process testify publicly. If I'm the Democrats I'm GONNA take that. Of course. Of course. It may be mildly at this point. Yes it is a constitutional process but Democrats are clearly looking at this almost almost a third of the way into a presidential election year as a way to hurt trump. This may hurt trump. A little more we will be discussing that and related matters with our our first guest. Our old colleague John Harris. So let's get on with it Lou We are now joined by our old Washington Post colleague later founding editor of politico. Oh John Harris John Welcome skulduggery. Thank you so much so fascinating piece. You had in politico about the mindset mentality of trump's supporters. Something we've all speculated about for quite some time tell us the genesis genesis of this piece and what you found well Michael. I've got a perspective like you in that. The Clinton impeachment isn't distant history. It's a one. Yeah I remember pretty well and we believe offered and so when you start talking about impeachment. It's natural I think for me to have these. Comparisons between what Republicans thought then and in what they think now and I have a hard time understanding how somebody could be outraged by bill. Clinton's conduct feel that it warrants. It's constitutional remedy removed from office and at the same time. Be totally cool with what trump did and said that impeachments outrageous. I don't have if somebody is problem with somebody saying both are outrageous need to go. I don't really have a problem. Somebody same both. I really not that big a deal to have some perspective and step back. They don't the two things don't seem incompatible to me but in the spirit that I think we as journalists should try to have curiosity before judgment I'll ask and so before the holidays. I did a column saying saying what can you tell me what you think trump defenders and tell me how you would think what you would think if the facts were exactly the same in the Ukraine matter except Hillary Clinton was was president. I want to hear from you minister. I heard from several hundred people and Bunch of the responses pretty good now my first reaction to that is so you're the editor of politico. We all read it inside the beltway here. But you've got several hundred trump supporter readers out there. Well I mean these are certain immature. We have many anymore agree to write me and most did it in good faith which was for me a good feeling because I was asking in a spirit of good faith and I didn't know how many people would just respond with invective and insults profanity and all the rest a few but not most and they gave me their views. And so why was I found it interesting into the mindset of how people justify their behavior we all right and I write sometimes about the tribalism Lizama politics which is fine for describing groups. It doesn't really do much to eliminate house. Specific individuals get from point a to point point. Beat I've never heard anybody say. Wow I just tribalism I just do. Whatever my tribe seems to be doing and I surrender independent judgement and just do that? Nobody justifies his own views that way and in fairness I never hear I usually hear people invoke tribalism to describe the behavior other people not the behavior of themselves that was interesting in their responses. which is you guys journalists for Washington professional class? You guys are a tribe too right well so John. There was one of the readers made an analogy to a kind kind of spectacle and criminal case that we are all very familiar with and covered back in the day they kind of crystallized this mindset in a lot of ways and that was OJ. Tell us about that reader and all along email and he started out and he thinks so. Trump is narcissistic. I can't remember all the adjectives. They use a basically a horrible person. Wait a minute I I want to hear. From trump defenders. Hang on. He'll get there what this reader said one he thinks trump is fundamentally strong person and has done well with the economy and but the main thing this Oj came in is the obsession with that. The people pursuing trump are not on on the level and so just as a lot of people could end up supporting. OJ Simpson's acquittal. Even though they thought he was guilty because the system was rigged rigged. The police. Were racist that this person says look we can support trump with all his flaws his character flaws and some of the flaws in his record. Because this game your Game The Washington game is not on the level. So this guy's line was he is our OJ which really. That's a great headline. I think we'll make it the name the title for this podcast but I gotta say without fully going there. I did a long way over the last year. Draw some analogies you remember Mark Furman..
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"Simpson had fled. The investigators choked back the bitter taste of failure as they reported that the suspect was gone. Meanwhile they searched. OJ's home for any a clue about where he'd fled to hopefully he hadn't already gotten out of the country soon. They found a letter that suggested an even grimmer grammar conclusion it read. I can't believe what is being said. Most of it is totally made up. I know you have a job to do but but as a last wish please please please leave my children in peace. Their lives will be tough enough. I want to send my Lovin Kevin. Thanks to all my friends. I wish we had spent more time together as I leave. You'll be in my thoughts based on this text next the police could only conclude that Oj Simpson rather than face. Murder charges planned to kill himself. The team's disappointment point was palpable as they left the Simpson House that afternoon vanatter and Lang could feel success. Slipping through their fingers. The entire K ace had come together so easily. They had a wealth of evidence. A motive and a cooperative suspect. Now it seemed that Nicole Brown Simpson. MM Senator Ron. Goldman might never get justice. The thought was devastating. But they weren't going to give up yet. If there was one one benefit to having a celebrity as a person of interest it was that he was recognizable around two PM. LAPD commander David. GASCOYNE hosted a press conference he labeled OJ Simpson a wanted. Murder suspect an hour later. Her District Attorney Gil. Garcetti elaborated further. OJ was missing and as he put it. Nobody knows where he is. Both speakers warned that if anyone was found cooperating with the alleged killer there would be dire consequences in addition they each called for the public to contact the police with any information regarding. OJ's whereabouts the first tip came from OJ himself at at five fifty one PM. He called nine one one announcing his intentions to shoot himself in the head. He said I WANNA go with Nicole. That's all I WANNA do. That's all I've been trying to do while. Dispatchers tried to trace a location for the call other reports started pouring in witnesses had seen. OJ In the back seat of a white Ford Bronco. His friend and former teammate. LINEBACKER AL cowlings was was driving down the five freeway in Santa Ana. OJ had a gun to his own head within minutes. Several police cruisers were dispatched and the chase was on but the juice had built a career on amazing runs. uh-huh he had years of experience. sprinting down the field. Dodging defensive football players now. He applied that same kind of focus to his escape. It wasn't just the police who were closing in on. OJ As news got out that the celebrity was driving down the highway trying to escape the cops cops. Reporters converged on the scene choppers crisscrossed southwestern Los Angeles airing live broadcasts about the pursuit it. It was a Friday night but people around America sat at home glued to their TV sets. Ninety five million viewers watched as the the White Bronco merged from the five to the ninety one west leading the squad. Cars back towards Brentwood two out of every three television vision sets on at the time were tuned to the juices attempted escape. Los Angeles is infamous for its high speed speed police chases but OJ's drive played out in slow motion. The Bronco crawled along rarely exceeding thirty miles per hour. And the pursuing squad. Cars didn't WanNa pull to close or try to run him off the road. OJ still had. The gun's barrel pressed against his face and the risk that he might attempt suicide was too high instead they deflected traffic away from the road and followed him at a careful speed and cautious distance in an effort to bring things to a peaceful conclusion. Detective Lang connected to Oj. Simpson's cell cell phone at five fifty six. PM He talked to the suspect throughout the chase urging OJ to pull over and surrender. His is gone the juice meanwhile vacillated between threatening to harm himself and begging to be allowed to return home eager to keep the suspect suspect on the line and to deter him from firing Lang relented the cars would follow OJ to Rockingham Avenue and apprehend him in his own driveway. Finally after an hour and a half the Bronco merged onto the four. Oh five from there. It exited did into a familiar neighborhood. Brentwood while the police scrambled to chase. OJ safely fans recklessly. Hit the streets to cheer on their favorite football star. People poured out of their apartment complexes in houses crowding the residential blocks spectators waved handmade paper signs with hastily scrawled marker messages like we love the juice and save the juice just before eight PM. The Bronco pulled into OJ's driveway. Thanks to Los Angeles's long summer days. It was still bill. Bright outside and dozens of people flocked to watch the arrest while some officers strung up police tape and focused on crowd control others turned their attention to OJ himself who still sat in the car gun in hand refusing to step out for a tense. Our police negotiated with their suspect. He still have begun press to his chin. He still insisted that he the intended to kill himself. And detective vannatter wasn't willing to let his suspect escape trial even in death the sunset and finally under the relatively private cover of night. OJ climbed out of the Bronco perhaps ups that was what he'd been waiting for all along a way to surrender without the crowd. Seeing he was immediately disarmed and handcuffed coughed. When the police searched the bronco they found a passport nearly nine thousand dollars in cash and a fake beard clear evidence that Oj had planned to flee the country than adder and Lang once more breathed a sigh of relief that they'd managed to nab OJ before his escape? But they'd have no opportunity to celebrate the arrest. The highly publicized. OJ Simpson murder trial. Trial would prove to be lengthy stressful and grueling. The proceedings would completely alter public perception of the L. A. P. D. and Van Adar's and Lang's credibility as investigators forever. Thanks for listening to not guilty will be back Thursday with the trial of the century. Own J. Simpson's ten month long murder hearing not only did. OJ's case become a media sensation..
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"Wherever you're listening? It really does help us. This week will look at the Nineteen Nineteen ninety-four murder of Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson ex-wife of NFL superstar OJ. Simpson wants detectives. Actives uncover Nicole's history of domestic abuse. They'll follow a trail of bloody clues right to their top suspects door next next week. We'll recount one of history's most famous murder. Trials and explore how race relations media sensationalism and accusations of police misconduct is conduct all led to Oj. Simpson's highly controversial not.
"oj" Discussed on Not Guilty
"On July Twenty Second Nineteen Ninety Four. The courtroom was packed so tightly few people could move move or breathe. The press made sure to capture every moment. Police lawyers the accused the judge and the bailiff were framed in camera. Lenses and recorded by microphones. It was forty seven year old. OJ Simpson's arraignment. He was accused of murdering his ex wife. Thirty five year old Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend. twenty-five-year-old Ron Goldman on June twelfth. Nineteen ninety-four for a five day long investigation had led police right to him as their top suspect. It seemed like an open and shut case ace but things got a lot more complicated when the judge asked for OJ's plea he replied absolutely one hundred percent and not guilty his refusal to strike a deal meant that Oj's lawyers led by Robert Shapiro and the State's attorneys led by Marcia sure Clark were about to put countless hours days weeks and months into the juices trial and if the media storm around found only as arrest at arraignment were any indication they do so under immense journalistic scrutiny. Although it's traditional for cases to be tried in the jurisdiction where the crime is committed prosecutors filed in downtown Los Angeles instead of Brentwood. They reason that the downtown courts were larger and could handle the throng of reporters. who were sure to be on the scene besides amass rush of journalists Witnesses and lawyers would only choke the West sides. Already dire gridlock. Downtown seemed better equipped to absorb the increased traffic. The decision to file downtown did more than accommodate a media circus however it also affected the demographics of the Juror Pool Brentwood where OJ Simpson lived and Ron Goldman and a coal Brown Simpson. died was a predominantly upper class. White neighborhood downtown. La had a largely Latino and black population and when it came to the question of Oj's guilt the public was split down racial lines. James a July nineteen ninety. Four poll showed that nearly twice as many white respondents thought. OJ was guilty. Compared to black people polled Black Angelenos were roughly three times more likely than white citizens to believe in. OJ's innocence these differences of opinion could be traced back to the recent racially charged controversies surrounding the lapd most notably the excessively forceful beating of Rodney King thing still sent shockwaves through the city but the tension went back further than that in nineteen eighty to a twenty year. Old Black man named James Mincy was pulled over for a broken windshield during the course of the Stop. Police put James in a chokehold killing him. The arresting officer later tried to justify his behavior as ordinary police procedure. When asked to comment on the officers? There's brutal use of force police. Chief Daryl Gates only further stoked tensions. He said the move was more likely to kill black people bowl then quote.
"oj" Discussed on You're Wrong About...
"I cannot count the number of times. I've left my house 'cause spattered with my own blood because I was in a hurry to get newburger and I didn't want my rating to get too low. Welcome to you're wrong about the podcast. Where the Perm of misconception meets the flat iron of Hindsight Oh my God right how? I had a month to make that the perm of misconception. That sounds like something in the never ending story. I am Michael Hobbs. I'm reporter for the Huffington Post. I am Sarah Marshall and I'm a woman sitting in a closet talking about O.. J. Simpson asking a boy to love the show. We are on on patriotic at Patriotair Dot com slash. You're wrong about and it appears by the time we have this out that we will be selling merch. If you want more details just go to our twitter page agent will put something on twitter slash. You're wrong about I'm pretty sure. Yeah thank you for coming on this ride with us. This is episode four. Yes in our series on the Okay Simpson Simpson trial. Yeah we're four hours into our telephone and we're about to go all the way my very good. I am extremely excited. Talk About Marcia Clark and about this period of investigating OJ. I guess during and after the Bronco Chase Yeah. I want to start by talking about who Marcia Clark is kind of right now versus who she was maybe four years ago the American mind. She's someone who's gone through a really interesting rehabilitation of image very recently. Like what's your experience of that. I mean she was one of these women that was sort of in the wave of recapturing in ninety women who really got treated terribly right like Tanya and Lorena Bobbitt and Marcia Clark was one of the main people that we've now returned to and been like like we were really mean to this lady who seemed to have been doing her best. Yeah did you like have a sense of who Marcia Clark was before her. Image kind of got rehabilitated habilitated In Two thousand sixteen with the Ryan Murphy Show about the OJ Simpson trial. I really didn't I mean I don't actually think that I had such a negative view of her at the time nine. I think I just thought that she was incompetent. Because you're an eleven year old boy and you're kind of not communicating in the language of Misogyny. That was being spoken so so fluently around. I mean I think I was but I just think that it didn't attach itself to her for whatever reason. Maybe for millennials like Marcia Clark in the uh-huh same way that so many other women who had jobs and in public inspired this kind of vitriol among their contemporaries that may be kids at the time didn't got got because many of us were used to have working mothers so we were like. Oh look it's it's mom. What do you think the big contrast between her for years ago in her now? Well well first of all. Tell You my first impression of Marcia Clark which is that. I started researching the O.. J. Simpson trial for the first time. Five years ago and got to the part where Marcia Clark a prosecutor is introduced and I was like. Oh there's a the prosecutor is a woman that's need like I had no. I had no memory of her. Oh like I had no sense of her being someone on who was attached to the case like I had no sense of her as a legendary figure. I remember when I read Jeffrey. Toobin the rest of his life which is the first book I ever right about the Oj Simpson trial in which really like open my eyes to some of the complexity that we we had forgotten since the sense that I got about Marcia Clark and the thing that probably immediately made me really like her and had like started my like attachment to her as a a a figure in the story that has has grown and blossomed to this day in which I must be open about up front. I really like Marcia Clark. And the first thing I liked about her was was that like she was the one person who is taking this seriously and also that she was trying. I mean she let me actually read you quote. Marcia Clark has a memoir called without a doubt written with Teresa Carpenter in it. She says that one of the things she likes about court is is that there are clearly delineated rules of combat rules that follow reason which to me kind of says a lot right this idea that she is drawn to work as a trial lawyer and she's he's like later on her career promoted out of prosecuting and given an office job in hates it and asked to be put back in Litigation Gatien interesting but what she's saying is that one of the things that she loves about. It is that you know there are rules. There are clear rules and their rules that are oriented toward logic and toward finding the truth. We're going to hear the phrase search for truth a lot and the next several hours of the show so okay got ready. But that that's what she believes is. Trials are four and what trials are capable of and that she believes that the law is able to actually bring about justice. Like you get the sense that she is operating being from sincerity and from also a belief and you know we are all coming here to honor reason. Basically than and that's not at this trial did I know I was just GonNa say it sounds so naive now especially knowing what we know about the Oj Simpson trial and knowing what we know about the legal system. Generally that the idea that it's this pure thing and everybody follows the rules and all anybody wants is to find the truth. It just like hopeless some Howard. So it's very like trust the system thinking think it's not as if she went into this trial as as like a newly as what she calls a baby be a like. She's he's forty years old at the time that her involvement in this case against ends you know so. She's Cuban a prosecutor for over a decade at this point shoes also been in high profile media cases before like she tried a case that was featured prominently on court. TV So she already even knows what it's like to be working with kind of celebrity concerns and to have cameras on her all the time so this is really new for her. Which I find interesting to like? It's not as if she's like young or green. You know I mean. She's she's a woman in her sexual actual prime but she's not young as well. I want to it. Leave there any door open to the fact of to the idea that I'm you know that's less than complimentary about Marcia Clark's age because I guess feeling nineteen ninety-five was a really you you know was enough yet right. Because he's like facing off against f Lee Bailey who sixty two years old and looks like. He's eighty because of the kind of life if that he's been drinking his way through like she one who has to have thousands of words written about her under eye bags totally totally and the fucking haircut thing which I'm still mad about. Let's let's talk about that too. What do you know about like Marcia Clark's appearance? I bet you could tell me in great detail about like what she looked like at various times. Could I admit it's something. Yeah I know I'm supposed to avoid boilers but the other day. I was looking for a photo to include in this post and it was on interview with Marcia Asia Clark like a year ago or something and it was her talking about the infamous makeover. She began I. I always make them up but she began the case with a Perm right and then she straightened out. Later was the other way around. She began with a perm okay. She became permanent she had like a makeover quote unquote and then she had straight hair and so of course chorus is built up at the time as like. Oh the cameras are on her and like she's trying to go see it up and she's trying to look more professional bubba so in this interview that I cheated and read and I promise I won't do it again whereas this interview sheet it it's in vulture. Okay they're asking about the haircut and she says that was a media creation in in the very beginning of the case before opening statements are press person said he did a haircut. It looks messy and I did. It was kind of scraggly so I got my haircut. That was an after that point. Join the media. Goes crazy with this shit. It's just so weird. They're came that point in the trial when my perm grew out I didn't have the time to go out and get permed again that particular morning I looked at myself and and said just blow it out and stop trying. You can't keep it up. You're never going to have time to go back to the hairdresser now and I have straight hair so blew it out. Dust began the media parade about the makeover. Well how could I still look like.
"oj" Discussed on 1075 KZL
"Is it possible that OJ Simpson is going back to prison in the morning the number one hit music station one of seven five please E. L. is it possible that OJ Simpson is.
"oj" Discussed on H3 Podcast
"Posted about me, thinking playing tired of all your bullshit out. We'll find your eyes and you don't believe me just watching C bitch. What is he? There are other. There are others that litter literally have more followers than me, and more convincing the mind left mass a few gonna, you're gonna cut, and he also is that what she said that Nicole. Fucking fucking rage with all knife, emojis. Newly dix. I mean come on this literally. The OJ it's real. Wild. I wonder if this is like, and I go to get him in legal. Trouble. Well, he waves single me out. It's all good. I don't mind having a parody account. The sexiest funny to me. He goes, just wait. I'm going to blast your ass all over Twitter. Cool. And when you do obe- here, so I. Another knife vote. Bro. OJ should not be sending knife, emojis. Cycle, if you if you're OJ, Simpson's, always still typing key messaging me right now OJ Simpson. If there's one emoji, you should not be using, it's a knife emoji. Yeah. Book crazy. I thought I'd be getting even I got a little get an even to do. What a fucking psycho. Yeah. I wonder if that can get his ass back in prison for sending knife, you mode us 'cause when it comes from a known murderer that's comes a little more than just. Goofing around and just I wonder if he has anyone around him like no one advising him. He's too old school. He's on this phone on Twitter. Nobody knows what's OJ's doing on on Twitter here. These are some new parody accounts. Now, they're popping up owed real OJ thirty two can't believe these mother efforts got my name wrong, and he's got the black club. RJ. With the black glove and blood on the Starbucks. That one's not gonna make him happy. He blocked the dole and dark, apparently, so congratulations to Dolan, dark. Dolan, dark said, could I get your opinion on how you got away with murdering your wife? You've been blocked off Jay you're not ready for Twitter. Brew breath, bra. Yeah, you can't just walk away from technology and come back on Twitter, especially as. Believe it. Okay. And just to put a little perfect bow on top of this. Here's somebody linked this old interview. I grant. Yeah. Enjoy this. Got me started. Did you do it? No. Killed up is said to me that he had a surprise for me and I genuinely was surprised. I think it was his idea of a joke. And this is it. You really miss it. After we finished filming OJ's said to me that he had a surprise for me, and I genuinely was surprised I think it was his idea of a joke. And this is it. Oh got. Ken? So for people who are listening to audio she opened the door and he had a knife in his hand and was doing like the say. Oh. Is it banana who's a banana? Yeah. And then he did. He's huge. Crazy is at the camera afterwards. Crazy. Wow. Yeah. OJ something else, man. But I, I mean, I think OJ threatening a parody account with knives. We'll go down as one of my favorite things we've ever watched on this show. So good. Oh, speaking of speaking of people who shouldn't be on Twitter back on Twitter. Bill Cosby, America's dad is on Twitter to wish everybody a happy. Father's day. Now, first before I read it to let's enjoy his banners. His panir is just. I don't really sure what's going on here. Why is it all on the left on the left side? And then. And then when you click as logo, it's Bill Cosby far from finish. Order now on Amazon, is that really vailable in Amazon..
"oj" Discussed on Pat Gray Unleashed
"And looks like he's guilty that took a long time to happen and it was because of the goodwill he built up which is what made the whole racial element of that trial so ridiculous he really he transcended race oj simpson was just a superstar everybody does why hurts used him for their commercials all the time it's white guy movie roles that's why the nfl used him as an analyst even though he's not that good it was oj simpson and everybody loved him so we're gonna put him on we're going to play some of the clips from last night which are staggering if you if you missed it you're gonna wanna see these even if you saw it you want might wanna see him again and and go over this because it's staggering triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninetythree cosmo hurts kids mission is to make cosmopolitan magazine subject to material harmful to minor laws in every state that way it can't be sold to children under eighteen why well because victoria hearst whose family's company the hearse corporation actually publishes cosmo she's not trying to drive them out of business or censor the magazine anyway she just wants it not to be sold to kids under eighteen because it definitely contains pornography if you don't believe that take a looks just at you don't even have to go inside the magazine we'll get a cover i believe it's this month's heat up sex sizzling four techniques and then immediately under that warm toys for your hot spots.
"oj" Discussed on Izzy and Spain
"His thing is if he makes a mistake the entire world is going to know about it and i don't know if you really understands what that means in this day and age oh my biggest concern is the stories of redemption and i know that they're probably inevitable and i'm with you i would like to just go yeah and yeah road j for the final chapter of his life and him i'm very concerned about the number of people who will be seeking notoriety by associating themselves with him including those who seek to write some sort of redemption story form that he doesn't deserve yeah you know it's interesting i always i have this thing about separating oj from the case the case meant a lot of different things to society know for uh for blacks it met one thing brothers it meant something else oj himself i think has always sort of used situations to his advantage and i think it would be a mistake to look at him for people out there who are seeking that redemption story to to sort of by into the factor that he is this incredible guy but i don't know maybe prison did change them in some way but he he's you know prowess on the football field doesn't make you a hero in life i wonder if he learned that what would disappointed me i guess you could say about his hearing was really disappointed because i think he thinks a lot about himself such a good opportunity to say you know what lot times in my life i didn't take who i didn't take responsibility for what i did and this is one time where i will and i'm sorry didn't hear that from scratch just wonder what kind of person he is and if somebody is looking to write a new script to his life i i wonder if that's going to be an honest scr.
"oj" Discussed on The Basketball Analogy
"Uh oh j in the house reality tv show oj living in florida right he wants to be released applauded hours his request because it's worse family let's listen and everybody onto only because he won't be getting some sick bars all he could be getting some bars awful list the oj still don't know how to charm and air body go watch them too man or the craziest instrument on the pump completely in sold on oj shit whatever it is now question do you gotta oj documentary to get oj movie we getting both because he no he got to get you gotta get part off about him coach in in in prison go live coverage enemies the show we got the dock now we need the movie a he was not coaching he was a commissioner of the league all he was the roger goodell very religious mumbo would take data accolade later others who was on i can't even take credit for that oj and a house that's porsche shuttles the porsche because he tweeted that not seen came take credit for their but that was fire idea so if you do happen somebody gotta run a check drew food aloof we're going to have like a a documentary about his post prison life the doocy lou through the juice is lose our top paul's it need be but i'll to land today just alive tweeted the you know what the lesson we got a reality show those probably would have been as this would be as good as.