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MPs claim it could be discriminatory to have Covid vaccine passports
"The concerns about vaccine passports tend to fall into two camps equity politics vaccine distribution in the. Us is already unequal. Even though racial data on covid vaccine is incomplete. Cdc numbers show that nearly two-thirds of people who received at least one dose or white. That could mean a disproportionate number of people of color being excluded from places that require a vaccine passport beyond race. There are other questions about. How axiom passports might discriminate unequal access to technology for example and there are other concerns for instance if you privilege people who are vaccinated. Are you discriminating against people who might have religious objections to get the vaccine are you. Are you discriminating against people who might have some medical condition. That makes them very nervous about getting the vaccine. So this this has emerged as a real threat and problem not just among republicans. This is a widespread bioethical concern. I did talk to zeke. Emmanuel the former advisor to the biden cova response. He worked in the obama white house a bioethicist and he said he thinks these passports coming. No matter what and that the do have value but all the bioethicists all the officials. I talked to say it's important to tread lightly here. And that's another argument not to mandate anything. Because you're further potentially widening those equity gaps that you alluded to
U.S. offers temporary legal status to Venezuelan immigrants in U.S.
"Bidet administration will allow Venezuelans who are already in the U. S illegally to remain in the country. For now. NPR's Franco or donors, reports President Biden is carrying out a campaign promise to shield more than 300,000 Venezuelans from deportation. Biden administration says it's granting Venezuelans in the United States temporary protected status for 18 months because of the current humanitarian and economic crisis in their country. Benjamin Good. Dan, who was the top adviser on Venezuela in the Obama White House, says there's long been bipartisan support for permitting Venezuelans already in the U. S to remain here legally. Venezuela is a failed state. In every single measure, there's simply not enough food to go around. Hospitals had collapsed before the pandemic. You ever oppressive dictatorship and extraordinary levels of violence in the street, he said. It was just inhumane to send people back into those conditions.
On International Women's Day, Biden Signs Gender Equity Measures
"Is marking the occasion as only a president can with more executive orders. His signature will set up a new White House counsel on gender policy. And roll back a controversial Trump administration rule that protected students accused of sexual assault. We're joined now by NPR, White House correspondent Aisha Roscoe and I shall want we start with this order on sexual violence in schools when we need to know. This order basically directs the Department of Education to look at our into conduct a review of all of its policies and regulations to make sure that an educational environment is free from discrimination on the basis of sex and also free from discrimination in the form of sexual harassment, including sexual violence. On discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity. So basically, it's a review to make sure that all of his policies are aligned with this order. And as I understand it, it goes back to the former education secretary Betsy the boss. She and the Trump administration believed that people who were accused of sexual violence deserve more rights in an academic setting. And Democrats, of course, opposed that from the beginning. Does this order just revert the legal standard back to what it was during the Obama administration. So this executive order clearly seems aimed at undoing that policy from the Trump administration. But what it basically does is it directs Education Secretary McGill Cardona to suspend or revise any agency actions that are at odds with the new order from the White House. So it basically puts it in The education Secretaries court for him to look at the policies and to decide what to do. But it seems clearly aimed at eventually getting rid of that order from the Trump administration. Okay, more to come on that issue, I'm sure now another bite in order is establishing a White House Gender Policy Council. What will that do? Exactly? So this council will focus on ensuring equity for women and girls on diverticular Lee women and girls of color. This is a revamped version of former President Obama's White House counsel on women and girls. The name was changed to reflect that all genders can face discrimination, but it's basically a way of looking at equity when it comes to women. Well. President Biden, on
Critics: Cuomo apology 'tone-deaf,' ignores power imbalance
"I'm Julie Walker a third woman is accusing governor Andrew Cuomo of unwanted advances after two former staffers say he sexually harassed them and his apologies being called tone deaf and a full apology and a rock who worked in the Obama White House and on Biden's campaign told The New York Times she met Cuomo at a wedding and had to remove his hand from her back her dress was backless she also says the governor planted an unwanted kiss on her cheek former staffer Shirley Bennett had also told the times he asked her about sex with older men Cuomo acknowledge some things he'd said had been misinterpreted as unwanted flirtation of that statement Bennett says he refused to acknowledge or take responsibility for his predatory behavior former staffer Lindsey Boylen was the first to accuse him of sexual harassment which he denies Long Island congresswoman Kathleen rice a fellow Democrat is calling for his resignation the state Attorney General is appointing an independent investigator Julie Walker New York
Biden puts U.S. back into fight to slow global warming
"President Biden's already issued a series of executive actions aimed at renewing efforts to slow global warming hours after taking the oath of office combat climate change in a way that you haven't done so far president Biden signed an executive order rejoining the Paris climate accord which sets limits on global emissions of greenhouse gases he's also revoked the approval for the keystone XL pipeline in his press secretary says biting signed orders to preserve wilderness areas open to potential commerce by the previous administration reviewing the boundaries for several national monuments places a temporary moratorium on all oil and natural gas leasing in the arctic National Wildlife Refuge with plans to reestablish fuel efficiency standards set by the Obama White House which were then eased by the trump administration Jackie Quinn Washington
Biden taps Rice as domestic policy adviser, McDonough for VA
"Susan rice C. is heading back to the west wing president elect Biden is tapping rice to head his White House domestic policy council a post that'll give her broad sway over his administration's approach to immigration health care and other topics it's a surprising shift rice is a longtime foreign policy expert who is president Obama's national security adviser ed U. N. ambassador she's the latest former Obama aide Biden speaking to fill out his own administration he's also going to nominate former Obama White House chief of staff Denis McDonough M. as Veterans Affairs secretary Sager mag ani Washington
Biden Names His Picks For Key Players On His Pandemic Advisory Team
"Joe Biden takes office next month, one of his first priorities will be responding to the pandemic, and today he named his picks for key players who will advise him on how to contain it and how to get people vaccinated. His picks include some very familiar faces and some new faces to joining us now from Wilmington, Delaware. To talk about all of this is NPR. White House correspondent Tamara Keith. Hey, Tam. Hey, Elsa. All right, so let's just start off with perhaps the most familiar face on this team, Dr Anthony Fauci. What, exactly Well, his will be one bite and becomes president. Dr. Fauci will continue to lead the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases where he's been involved in vaccine development. And he will also be an adviser to the president. The president elect now On covert 19. He said on CNN that he thought his role would be similar, though What he didn't say is that Biden is a lot more likely to listen to him on a regular basis than President Trump has been certainly of late. Fauci will bring continuity between the administration's and he knows all the new players, including Biden's pick for the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Rachelle Wolinsky, as well as his pick for surgeon general Vivek Murthy. Here's what he said on CNN today. I know both Rochelle Walensky and Vivek Murthy very well. I mean, I've been working with the back for years when he was the surgeon general during the Obama administration and Rochelle Wolinsky has been a colleague of mine. She's an infectious disease expert. From Harvard Medical School in Massachusetts General Hospital. Now the CDC director job doesn't require Senate confirmation, but surgeon General will and Murthy had a difficult time getting confirmed last time because of his work on gun safety issues, Right. Okay, there's another doctor on this list. Marcella newness, Smith. Of Yale School of Medicine. What is her role going to be? She's going to lead something that Biden is creating called the Cove it 19 Equity Task Force. As we all know. By now, the burden of covert 19 has been disproportionately felt by people of color, and Nunez Smith is the founding director. Of Yale's Equity Research and Innovation Center. She's been working on this issue extensively and building trust in communities that don't necessarily trust the medical community or vaccines. Let's Turn now to the pick for health and human services secretary. The person who will be getting that job is state Attorney general of California, Javi Airbus era. He's also former congressman. Why do you think the Sarah was selected for this particular job? You know, he's been actively involved in defending the Affordable Care act, leading a coalition of states fighting to save it all the way to the Supreme Court. He spoke about that effort last year on all things considered, Americans are fed up with uncertainty. When it comes to whether or not they can send their child to a doctor or the hospital. We deserve to have certainty. Health care is not some widget that you play with its life and death. But beyond that, while attorney general in California he went after a major hospital system in the state for anti competitive practices. He backed legislation aimed at preventing drug companies from keeping generic drugs off the market. And the thought is that he may be able to bring some of that experience and energy to bringing down health care costs. He would also be the first Latino to lead the department. He grew up in Sacramento with working class immigrant parents. He got into Stanford, according to his official bio after fishing and application out of the trash that his friend and thrown away his personal story is something that you can expect to see Biden and his team highlight, especially since Biden's been under pressure to make good on his promise to have a diverse cabinet, right. Lastly, there is a White House position. Jeff Science will be the coordinator of the pandemic response. He's also gonna be a counselor to the president. There has been some pushback right to this particular selection from progressives right? He was a top economic official in the Obama White House. He famously was brought in to help after that disastrous rollout of healthcare dot Gove and save the launch of the Affordable Care Act. There has been pushed back as you say, from progressives to his appointment. He comes from the business world since leaving government he's Leading investment firm, and he also served on the Facebook board of directors for a time. The reality, though, is that this doesn't require Senate confirmation. And even those who object to some of his connections concede he is good at managing systems and solving problems in a crisis that is NPR. White House correspondent Tamara Keith. Thank you, Tam. You're welcome, Elsa.
Biden Nominates More Members Of His Economic Team
"Biden has also tap. Cecilia rouse to lead. The council of economic advisers should be the first woman of color in that role as well if she's confirmed now. The president elect also recently announced that he will have an all female senior. Communications team led by faces already familiar to his campaign kate. Betting field who served as his deputy campaign manager will be as white house communications director and former obama white house. Communications director jen. Psaki will be named as the white house press secretary corrine jean-pierre who was a senior advisor to the campaign and then comma harris's chief of staff will serve as principal. Deputy press secretary simone sanders who also served. As a senior biden campaign adviser will be serving as senior advisor and chief spokesperson for vice president. Elect common-law harris
C.D.C. Pleads With Americans to Stay Home on Thanksgiving
"Right now. Laboratories are warning shortages of supplies likely will create more delays in getting test results. Out especially as case numbers surged joining us. Now physician and fellow at the brookings institution dr patel. She's a former obama white house. Health policy director in an msnbc medical contributor dr patel. It's good to see this morning. We also heard yesterday from the cdc that said please avoid travel now for thanksgiving a week out and we got our first news briefing in four months from the task force. The white house task force. Dr burks and dr fauci. What did you take away from what they said yesterday. And what's your view of these incredibly stark numbers. We just saw good morning to everyone. I think that take away from yesterday was actually both an incredible dire warning about thanksgiving about the numbers that we can expect and then also a ray of sunshine. If we can actually do what we need to do. Dr fauci spoke about the extraordinary. And casey mentioned it. The extraordinary progress we've made with vaccines from operation warp speed as well as global cooperation. But a vaccine does not mean that you can actually just kind of read the sigh of relief and go about your merry ways. It really does mean is. Dr burke said yesterday that we have to do things today and change behaviors today in order to be able to have a light at the end of the tunnel and benefit from the vaccines and willie looking at those pictures. I can't help but shudder and fear that some of those people in line are actually doing testing so that they can go and celebrate thanksgiving. I i know that a lot of what my patients are saying. And and that is frankly a big concern your task force and the cdc again was clear yesterday. Small groups within your own household and do not even travel at this point for thanksgiving. That's about as serious as that warning could be so dr patel as you rightly. Say great news on the vaccine front but for most people in this country. That's at least what six months away to get that so we have six months. Let's say from here to there where anything can happen. If we don't have further mitigation efforts from your point of view based on these numbers that we're seeing the trajectory you say were on and that we are on should we go further nationally or at least state by state in terms of stay at home. Orders for example mask mandates. What would you like to see. Yes this is absolutely the conversation that i hope every governor again because we have no national strategy what we did not hear yesterday was kind of an announcement or a bold proclamation about what we can count on at the national level. So you're right willie. We do need to have mask. Mandate that the state levels nationally. We just need all except that wearing a mask and make a difference. Especially if you're going to go and celebrate thanksgiving with people who are not normally in your household. Here's something that i think is incredibly controversial. That happening were closing schools. Before we're making mold steps close or reduce indoor capacity of a restaurant than places where we know people are getting together. I would do the reverse. I would not penalize younger children where we have seen that. We have not been having as much of an outbreak as we have in other settings that people are moving towards indoors shops and restaurants and then i really hope that on a policy level that we can resurrect some stimulus funding because these businesses especially during a holiday season are dying on the vine and again. It's all unnecessary. We've had zero ability to offer small business owners an away to have reliable testing to even keep their employees safe. And that's what we've decided to do in this country. So that's what i want to ask you about in terms of testing dr patel's a former white house health and policy director. I know the biden team says on day one. The president plans to invoke the defense production act on things like testing these lines. That we're seeing Football fields of cars people waiting for hours and hours sometimes days to get a false result on testing is a massive almost the number one impediment to mitigation because as they're waiting in line. They're missing work if they have work. They're exposing themselves to people as they're waiting for these tests and these test results that sometimes take days to come and for those who are lucky enough. Maybe they can buy a test. But it's not like that for the rest of america. Who is in this situation right here. Which is so unacceptable. Had president trump invoked the deep on testing. Would we be in this situation right now. No your outrage. I can't tell you how much that outrageous felt by so many healthcare workers around the country. Here here's something to wrap our brains around. We were able to develop to at least two highly efficacious vaccines and cheaper than it is to get a pcr nasal swab which your head around that that is unacceptable that somehow we have decided that the ability to actually offer employers to open safely away to actually keep schools open in a way for americans to feel. Testing does not replace masks and prevention whatsoever but it certainly could be a critical piece in finding those asymptomatic carriers the majority of people we know who are either infected or are able to transmit the coronavirus right now if we had reliable cheap and easy testing. It doesn't even have to be perfect makeup. We could do something every three days. We know that that's probably the time period where we could catch the majority of cases and this is just a system failure on all levels that the fda is cdc initially relying on flawed testing in the beginning and then again no national vocation of the defense production. Act at no pressure to try to identify how we can get testing especially to the hardest hit communities black and brown communities where we still have really pathetic testing eighth and turnaround times stability and the and the needless loss of life here is mind. Boggling dr kavita patel. Thank you very much for being on the show this
Climate Activists Want Biden To Bar Appointees With Fossil Fuel Ties
"Joe biden has an ambitious climate plan and there are a lot of people with government experience. Who could help implement that plan. But some of them have ties to fossil fuel industries and that is a problem for climate change activists. Npr's jeopardy reports in philadelphia recently. A group of young climate activists marched to biden's campaign headquarters. The sunrise movement often pressures democrats. Back the green new deal but instead biden offered his own climate plan for a slower transition away from coal oil and gas. He has not committed to barring people with fossil fuel ties from his administration. Lauren martinez was sunrise. Thinks he should biden ran on the most progressive climate agenda in us history and one on it. So it's incumbent upon him to take that seriously and put forward people who are accountable to the people that elected him to office the head of the natural resources defense council and former epa administrator gina mccarthy says she understands why young activists want to ban on appointees connected to fossil fuels especially after trump. Put them in key posts including andrew wheeler a former coal industry lobbyist. I mean that's who has been running the environmental protection agency and has gotten us nowhere fast. It's backed us up. It hasn't supported a growing clean energy economy. But here's a problem with a fossil fuel will litmus test biden won't govern alone the us senate could remain under republican leadership that means passing legislation would require compromise and bradbury is ceo of the american exploration and production council. Americans voted for divided government. As part of that you know. I think they voted for moderation. And i think they voted for commonsense. Bradberry sees a future for fossil fuels even under biden's ambitious plan for net zero carbon emissions by twenty fifty worried about climate. Change say there are issues. Republicans and democrats likely can agree on heather. Reams was citizens for responsible. Energy solutions suggests activist focus on things like economic stimulus that boost clean energy. They should looking at the bigger policies and getting to what's possible with getting climate action done today rather than arguing about the position on one's resume among the names on the biden transition team a few have limited ties to fossil fuel but more are from environmental groups. Jody freeman served as councillor for energy and climate change on the obama white house now freeman is at harvard law school and says she sees a trend in the people selected so far i think the clear messages vitality one good people in place wrestling start who have experienced any days and not wasting any time. Freeman is a good example of those who could be excluded. If a biden administration rejects people connected to fossil fuel companies. She sits on the board of oil company conaco phillips but she also led obama's effort to double car fuel efficiency standards. She's also an expert on using presidential powers to address climate change. That's knowledge that likely will be necessary if both parties can't agree on new climate legislation when biden his sworn in next year. Jeff brady npr news.
Biden will reportedly name Ron Klain his chief of staff
"Joe Biden and Ron claim have been together for a long time claimed was the chief of staff to then Vice President Joe Biden in his first term and will hold that same title for an incoming president. Biden claim was also chief of staff for then Vice President Al Gore in 2014. He was selected to coordinate the Obama White House response to the Ebola's outbreak, celebrating the survival of the doctor who contracted that deadly virus shows that our health care system can successfully identify Isolate and treatable a patient. This election emphasizes Biden's focus on corralling the new Corona virus. But the president elect also says claim is well equipped to face the challenge of working with a divided Congress.
Ron Klain to serve as Biden's chief of staff
"A top adviser to Joe Biden, who's worked with him since the 19 eighties, has been selected to become the incoming White House chief of staff. Joe Biden and Ron claim have been together for a long time claimed was the chief of staff to then Vice President Joe Biden in his first term and will hold that same title for an incoming president. Biden claim was also chief of staff for then Vice President Al Gore in 2014. He was selected to coordinate the Obama White House response to the Ebola's outbreak, celebrating the survival of the doctor who had contracted that deadly virus shows that our health care system can successfully identify. Isolate and treatable a patient. This election emphasizes Biden's focus on corralling the new Corona virus. But the president elect also says claim is well equipped to face the challenge of working with a divided Congress.
Biden chooses longtime adviser Ron Klain as chief of staff
"A top adviser to Joe Biden who's worked with him since the nineteen eighties has been selected to become the incoming White House chief of staff Joe Biden and run clean have been together for a long time claim was the chief of staff to then vice president Joe Biden in his first term and will hold that same title for an incoming president by Dan claim was also chief of staff for then vice president Al Gore in twenty fourteen he was selected to coordinate the Obama White House response to the Ebola outbreak celebrating the survival of a doctor who contracted that deadly but research shows that our health care system can successfully identify isolate and treatable patient this selection emphasizes by didn't focus on corralling the new coronavirus but the president elect also says clean is well equipped to face the challenge of working with a divided Congress Jackie Quinn Washington
The health status of those in Trump's orbit
"Has the number of White House staff members and GOP officials infected with the Corona virus grows. President Trump has tried to show strength in videos released during his stay at Walter Reed. But his medical treatment including a steroid typically reserved for more severe cases of Cove in 19 is raising questions about his health status and ability to govern also trumps SUV ride to way to supporters gathered outside the hospital is drawing criticism for risking the health. Of his security detail and potentially hospital staff. We look at the implications of all of this with Dr Ezekiel Emanuel, former Obama White House health policy advisor. And vice provost of global initiatives of the University of Pennsylvania. Thanks so much for joining us, Dr Ezekiel Emanuel Thank you for having me a pleasure also with us. Jessica Levinson, a professor at Loyola Law School. Thanks so much for joining us as well discuss Levinson. Thanks for having me back. So, Dr Emanuel, I'll start with you. And I guess I'll just start with this SUV ride to supporters outside the hospital. I mean, you've called this decision shameful. Can you tell me why concerned you so much? A horse of all There was no need for it. No urgent need. Second of all, the president has got cove it and he should be recuperating. He is the leader of the Free world. On DH. Ah, he's sick, right? How do we know we think? Well, he's gotten the Regeneron Antibody cocktail. He's on run desert here is an ex amethyst so he should not be going out on the last thing is on may be. The most irresponsible thing he did is He is putting other people at rest the people who walked him down in the hospital, the secret Service in the car, just not a responsible thing to do. And it's sort of echoes to me the irresponsible behavior he demonstrated when he went to see off his potential donors in New Jersey knowing full well he had symptoms that were consistent. With a cove it and he probably knew he was covert infected on Thursday. What do you make of the fact then, since this is what his White House spokesman said that this ride was cleared by the medical team as safe to do. Wei have questions about that medical team and their judgment. They have not been forthcoming with the American public. That's putting it mildly. They've lied and evaded questions that are necessary for the public to make a decision about the president. On DH. Ah, many of us have some question about the wisdom of the therapeutic interventions that they're doing layering on decks, amethyst sewn onto the other medications that he's taking. So you know, I'm not. I don't have overwhelming confidence in their judgment. And even if the patient wanted to do it, you're the doctor. You're the expert in health care. You're also the supposed to be the expert in the spread of the disease and putting other people at risk. And none of it seems wise. Yes, I definitely want to talk more about the medications he's on. But first Jessica Levinson, I mean, Dr Emanuel is talking about the You know the reason that the public does need to know what his condition is. Can you talk more about that, in terms of what the public does have a right to know and why it's so important because you've mentioned national security concerns. Absolutely. And what a pleasure to be on with Dr Manual. And I will say that you if President Trump was Mr Trump than his medical history is really in his medical prognosis. It's really his own business. But he is somebody who's put himself in a position of enormous public trust. If the president has the sniffles, it's potentially A global issue and add to that the idea that the president has a potentially deadly disease in the middle of a pandemic dealing with that disease going right into an election. We're not before an election. We are in the election. Two million people have cast early votes were voting early in California. As of now, we're dealing with other serious National issues like wildfires and the idea that we would not have a full and fair accounting of the president's health. It's not just that it lacks transparency for the American public. It means that again. It's part of a consistent narrative that we don't know what to trust. We can't evaluate what's happening and again. This is not a private citizen. This is somebody who has enormous power over our lives. Enormous power on a not just the national but an international stage and It's deeply irresponsible that we would be kept in the dark about what is going on The fact that he would have doctors out there is aiding questions that they would say later. Oh, we just wanted to keep it. Upbeat tone instead of a truthful tone is something that the American public frankly should not have to stand for.
Former Obama Intern, Desiree Tims, Runs For US Congress
"Are you doing array is doing fantastic carrio. I can't complain I'm happy to be with you today. I know it's been a little difficult getting scheduled. You gotta go out here raise money and may cause and win the seat listen. Every day, we're working hard to get the drop down. We have a lot of work to do. Yeah. Yeah. Well, at know that it's you have your work out free but I also know you're willing for the job in addition to hearing about you just from being on the board of Clarkston CBC pack also Special Little Nudge from our shared in winter. Are you gonNA talk to desert I said my pleasure it'll be monthly. Enough. Still. Always happy to get to get an edge my real vaseline to case. My boss to. Answer yes, she is. So phenomenon spirit in always had. So the first thing I want to go to actually is There is a song that's out right now. That is urging people it really to me is like the modern doper cooler version of schoolhouse rock and it's. A song by a yellow pain who when guide Efron Cory who works with him? I was like Oh God. No, and then come to find out. That's your cousin. Yes. Yellow pain is your president as right. We gotta get him to do a song for you. Hear that. Song. That's just for you so I helped educating. About voter suppression by how the definite words I need one specific desert for Congress. I have to think of that. So this the whole song came about because I'm back home. After you know the Obama Administration ended worked on Capitol Hill and I was like okay I am going to take a break from public service because people think he'll staffers make a lot of money and we don't What's What's and I was on the higher end but girl what's Yeah One more time for people in the back. So, law school they night at Georgetown and I was like, okay. I'm going to work at a firm for a little bit pay my student loan debt down a good for a few weeks. Or years and Michael Copy shoes real now trip here in there. 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I have a song about voting in my head it's going to be like schoolhouse rock but hip hop. Though and I think it can work. He was like I. Don't know and I was like, no you can do it in the months reidy fleshing out ideas how to save you call. I. Now we need a robbery in Congress. I can't rent. Over like yours, the concept you're, Ryan. Here's the lyrics. This is what we're going to say we have to talk about what happened in two thousand ten we have to talk about our have to talk about judges at the scene we have. That No. It worked out. It was great I'm so glad he. Goes raise lyrics this little bit you now hidden talent. Okay. So in addition to being a a Georgetown educated a lawyer, you also are the granddaughter of Ashir, crapper. Talk to me a little bit about what this means having that in your lineage also opted those are the things that ground us that people don't see and don't hear about since asked me a little bit about that. Yes. So my Popo is I called him now is from the deep South. So like beyond Daddy Alabama Louisiana, my maternal side is Alabama in my paternal side is Louisiana so. Shout to be onset I'm Louisiana both sides. Okay. So he migrated from Alabama, to Ohio, in the late nineteen forties part of the great migration like many black people go live in Chicago and Detroit and the path as to how we got. There was the our parents and grandparents came for opportunity and you know he dropped out of school when he was six years old because he had to work the fields, but he could never go back to school but. He still was able to reach the middle class work in a factory in real heatless taught me the importance of hard work and made me promise to go to school for as long as I could because he couldn't and that's why I continue. I went to the first family to get the undergraduate degree. Then I got the Masters Okay Papa be done. He was like Oh is that he can you go further. Pressure. 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Former Obama Intern, Desiree Tims, Runs For US Congress
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Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers
"Everybody from the British. Ask this week's interview. Episode has any Greenberg senior writer at wired. He just SORTA book called Sand Worm New Era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's Miss, dangerous hackers, it is all about hacking group inside of the Russian government called San Worm. They were responsible for the most damaging cyber warfare attacks over the past year there behind not PECI. The hackers took out in the mayor shipping line hospitals across the U. K San has totally escalated. What we think of Cyber War, and he's book gets all into how they were discovered how they were flushed out the. The intricacies of these various hacks. It's super interesting. The book is a thrill ride. If you're looking for something that isn't the virus. This is like a thriller, a highly recommended. It was really fun to talk to her about the stuff. one thing I. WanNa know we're all at home so during this in every might hear some kids in the background. I asked you just be a little forgiving that we're all. We're all dealing with it and he was a great interview. Check Out Sandy Greenberg of sand worm, a new era of cyber war and the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous hack. Any Greenberg your senior writer at wired you're also the author of Sand Worm, new era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous. Welcome glad to be here so even writing about cybersecurity frontier I think you just said two thousand six and writing about Cybersecurity, but this book sand worm as I was reading it. It seems like it's called the new era of cyber war. It seems like there's been a huge turn in sort of state-sponsored. Particularly Russians sponsored cyber attacks. How did you come onto that notion? How did you begin reading this book I'm I'm very curious how you see. See that turn happening well. In late twenty sixteen, my former colleague Kim Zetter she had been the one who really covered state sponsored hacking in cyber war stuff, but she left wired, and this was also at the time. When you know Russian hackers were meddling in the US election, they'd hacked the democratic. National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Clinton Campaign, so my editors were really primes on face, mantra hacking all of a sudden, but what they? They really what they told me they wanted was a actually like a big takeover of the whole magazine. All about cyber war, but cyber war to me is different than those kinds of espionage election, meddling tactics so I went looking for no real cyber war story, which means to me like a actual disruptive cyber attacks, and as I looked around. It seemed like the place where that was really happening was in Ukraine not really in the US in fact maybe. Maybe what was happening in? Ukraine seemed to me like it was in some ways, the only real full blown cyber war that was actually occurring where Russian hackers were not just attacking the election which they had done, they tried this spoof the results of a presidential election, but they had also attacks media and destroyed their computers. They had attacked government agencies and tried to like destroy entire networks, and then they had turned off the power for the first time. In December of two thousand, fifteen, the the first actual blackout triggered by hackers, and just as I was look into this happened again the the effect, the seem hacker group caused a blackout this time in the capital of Kiev so I wince looking in Ukraine for this cyber war story that. Turned into a cover story for wired that kind of gave editors what they wanted, but then also kept unfolding This cyber war kept growing in scope and scale and. The original story written for wired was kind of about the fact that you could look to Ukraine to see the future of cyber war that will what was happening. There might soon spread to the rest of the world. And that is actually what happens to like just after we publish that cover story to same hackers released this climactic terrible cyber attack in Ukraine. Called Not Petiot that spread beyond Ukrainians became the worst cyberattack history cost ten billion dollars, so when that happened, that was when I saw that there was potential to do a book about this that it was not just a kind of case study about Ukraine or even kind of predictive story, but a an actual full story arc about this one group that had carried out the what I would say was not only the first. First Real Cyber War, but the worst cyberattack in history and the you know I wanted to capture the the Ark of that story in the effects, the real experience of cyber war. Yeah, so the group is called sand worm in this is just one of the the sort of opening arcs of the book is how they've come. They come to be named this because references and code walk people through just like it's so. relatable that like even these hackers are using using this language that leads them recalled Sandwich Tell people about it. So when I started to look into the origins of this group after that second blackout attack I I found that this this company called eyesight partners which have been acquired by fire I I, said partners was the first to find these hackers in twenty, fourteen, basically using fishing in kind of typical espionage tactics, plant malware in the networks of typical Russian hacking targets like groups across Eastern, Europe and NATO in a look like what they were doing was just kind of typical espionage. They were planning. This by wear calls lack energy buds will first of all they could see that they were rushing, because they had this server that they were using to administer some of these attacks and they. They left the server, so anybody could look at it in. There was a kind of Russian language to file for how to use black energy on the service, so these guys seem like they were rushing, but even more interesting in some ways. was that they to track each victim each instance of black energy? This malware has little campaign code in each campaign was a reference to the science fiction novel Dune and you know so like one of them was something about Iraq is, and then one of them is about the sutter cars, these like imperial soldiers in in that SCI FI universe so I said partners named this group sand worm, because well just because it's a cool. Name associated with doing, but it turned out to me. It became this very powerful because a sandwich miss this monster that lies beneath the surface, and occasionally arises from underground to do terribly destructive things. partners didn't know that at the time, they they soon afterward realized what sand. was doing was not just espionage, but they were actually doing reconnaissance for disruptive cyberattacks. They were also hacking power grids. They were planning black energy, not only in the European Eastern European targets in the US power grid networks as well. The Ultimately Syndrome was the first twenty fifteen to cross that line in use black energy as the first step in a multi step attack that led to a blackout. So this was not just espionage really was kind of like you know this monster that rises from under the ground to do terrible acts of mass destruction that came to pass so one of the things that comes up over in the book. Is this growing sense of dread from security researchers and analysts? Oh this is an imminent threat to the united. States just Ukraine, but like this is happening here and then there's a sense that the United States actually open the door to this kind of warfare with stuxnet. which was an attack on Iran? How how did those connect for you that it seemed like there's a new rule of engagement new set of rules of engagement for cyber warfare that actually the United States implicitly created with with stuxnet by attacking Iran. Yeah, I mean I tried to highlight. Clearly sand worm are the real bad guys in the story, they are the actual hacker group that did these terribly reckless destructive attacks that actually in some cases put people's lives at risk, the kind of in some parts of the story they actually shutdown medical record systems and I. Think may have cost people's lives with cyber attacks today they are the actual antagonist here, but I also want to highlight the ways that the US government is is partially responsible for the state of Cyber War, and there are a few ways that that's true. I The US! Open the Pandora's box of cyber war with stuxnet. This piece of now where that. That was used to destroy Iranian nuclear enrichment centrifuges that was the first piece of our that actually have caused that physical disruption destruction, and we now see Sandra doing the same thing in Ukraine. In in fact, in some ways around the world, also the the US hordes, these kind of zero day, secret hacking techniques, some of which were stolen and leaked and used by sand worm, but then I think the in fact, the biggest way that I tried to highlight that the US is responsible or complicit or negligent. Here is that we did not call allows what Santorum was doing in Ukraine and say to Russia. We know what you're doing. This is unacceptable. Nobody should be turning out the lights. Two civilians with cyber attacks. There wasn't a message like that I. mean the Obama White House sent a message to Russia over this kind of cyber hotline to say your election hacking is not okay. We see what you're doing and we want you to stop, but they said nothing about a tube blackout attacks in Ukraine, and that was kind of implicit signal to Russia. They could keep. Keep escalating, and even as all the cyber security, researchers and Ukrainians were warning that what was happening to Ukraine, would soon spread to the rest of the world, the US government ignore this both Obama, and then the trump administration until that prediction came to pass and a sand worm cyberattack did spread to the rest of the world, and it was too late, and we all suffered globally as a result, so let's talk about patch it. WAS CATASTROPHIC IN SCOPE, right? It took out the mayor shipping line, which is a massive business. It took out some hospitals in UK like it was huge in scope. I don't think people really put it all together. Talk about how it started and how big it grew. Yeah, so not too was kind of like big apotheosis sandwich, where all of these predictions of the terribly destructive things they were doing to the rest of the world came to pass but it did it started in Ukraine. They hijacked this. The the software updates of this accounting software called me doc that is basically used by everybody in Ukraine. The quicken turbo tax of Ukraine. If you do business in Ukraine, you have to have this installed, so sanborn hijack the updates of that news to push out this worm to thousands of victims mostly in Ukraine, but it was a worm, so it's spread the mmediately end quickly kind of carpet bombs. The entire Ukrainian Internet's every computer at spread to would encrypt permanently. You could not recover the computer, so it very quickly took down pretty much every. Every Ukrainian government agency twenty two banks multiple airports for hospitals in Ukraine that I. could count and in each of these cases. What is eight took them down. I mean it destroyed essentially all of their computers, which requires sometimes weeks or months to recover from, but then as you know, this is a worm that does not respect national borders. So even though it was, it seemed to be an attack intended to disrupt Ukraine. It immediately spread beyond Ukraine's borders. Borders to everybody who had this accounting software installed? That was doing business in Ukraine and some people who didn't so that includes Maersk. The world's largest shipping firm and Fedex and Mondelez, which owns cadbury, NABISCO and ranking manufacturing firm that makes tylenol in Merck. The Pharmaceutical Company in New Jersey on each of these companies lost hundreds of millions of dollars. The scale of this is kind of difficult to capture but I in the book I tried to. To I focused in part Maersk because it is just a good company to look at because you can. They had this gigantic global physical machine that is they have seventy six ports around the world that they own as well as these massive ships that have tens of thousands of shipping containers on them. And I told the story of how on this day seventeen of their terminals of were entirely paralyzed by this attack with ships arriving with just. Piles of containers on them. Nobody could unload. Nobody knew what was inside of nobody knew how to load or unload them with around the world of seventeen terminals, thousands of trucks, Semitrailers, carrying containers were lining up in Lyons miles long because the gates that were kind of checkpoints to check in the these trucks to drop something off or pick it up. They were paralyzed as well. This was a fiasco on a global scale is responsible for a fifth of the world's lable shipping capacity. They were truly just a rendered brain dead by this attack, but yeah displayed out at all of these different victims MERC had to borrow their own each vaccine from the Center for Disease Control because they're manufacturing. Manufacturing was disrupted by this, and it ultimately spread to a company called nuance, nate speech to text software. They have a service that does this for hospitals across the US to dozens of our possibly hundreds of American hospitals at this backlog of transcriptions to medical records that were lost because of this, and that resulted in patients, being do for surgeries or transfers, other hospitals in nobody knew their medical records were updated. I mean this was scale where hundreds of hospitals each of which has thousands of patients missing changes the medical records. We don't know what the effects of that work, but very well could've actually harmed people's health. Our lives I mean the scale of not petty is very difficult to. Get your mind around, but we do know that you know monetarily cost ten billion dollars, which is by far the biggest number we've ever seen, but it also had this this kind of harder to quantify toll on people's lives, so it it you know you read about it at length and wired. Obviously these companies go down of ripples in mainstream sort of general press, but I don't feel like people really not like Oh. This Russian group called San Worms sponsored by the Russian government. Unleash this attack in it caused this cascading effect of failure and disaster cost in that because we know what we can attribute it to the government, our government. I don't feel like that connection got made for people. What is the gap between other as a hack and Oh, this is actually a type of warfare engagement, because that that connection seems very tenuous. I think for a lot of people. Even as sort of the more general mainstream press covers this stuff. Yeah, you know. I don't think that that's is just like the nature of. Of Cyber War I think that was a failing that that lack of connection is a failing on our government's parts, and on you could say even on the part of some of these victims like these large companies I mean I at the time did not pitch it happened. I was fully on the trail of standard within days. I was talking to cyber security researchers who? Who had piece together? Some of the forensics to show the not petiot was Sandra that it was a Russian state-sponsored attack in yet none of those companies that I mentioned mercker Mondelez or Maersk or Fedex, or any of them wanted to say the Russia had done this to them and know governments were talking about either like the Ukrainian government was. They're always willing to point. Point the finger at Russia, but the US government was not, and you know that to me seemed to be just kind of I mean I felt like I was being gas. Let's at that point. I had watched Russia due to Ukraine for a long time at that point tonight. I sort of understood that NATO in the West. We had this kind of cruel logic that. Ukraine is not us. Russia can do what it likes to Ukraine because they're not NATO not e you. They are Russia's sphere of influence or something I think that that's very wrongheaded, but at least it made sense. You know to have that that viewpoints, but now this attack had spread from Ukraine to hit American soil American companies in many cases and yet still the US government was saying nothing I just thought this was bizarre and you know so i. For months I was like. Trying to get any of these companies to tell the story of of their experiences, not Peta I was trying to figure out why the US government wasn't talking about the fact that this was a Russian cyberattack and ultimately I. Think it was I. think it was kind of I know partly disorganization negligence. I think it may have something to do with the fact that the. The? Trump administration doesn't like talking about Russian hackers for obvious reasons, but eight months after it took eight months ultimately for the US government to finally say not that it was a was Russia it was the worst cyberattack in history, and then a month later. The White House impose consequences in put new sanctions on Russia and response, but it took nine months and more importantly it took. Multiple years this without was the first time this was twenty eighteen, and the Russian cyber war in Ukraine had started around the fall of Twenty fifteen, so that's just incredible span of negligence when the US government said nothing about these escalating unfolding. Acts, of Cyber Award that there should have been unacceptable from the very beginning I mean these are the kind of quintessential acts of state sponsored cyber attacks on civilians, trying out the lights. You know that's the kind of thing that I believe that the US government should have called out and drawn a red line across at the very beginning took ears, so I do think it was a big failing. Of of diplomacy, it just seemed like that part of the problem, and this is kind of an expression is it's so hard to describe like if the Russian government sent fighter jets to America and live their support. Okay, like everyone understood, you can see it. You can understand what happened there. In the you know, there's like a however many decades of movies about how to fight that war. This is a bunch of people in a room typing. Like it there's just an element of this where the dangerous Oh federal where the attack is invisible, and while the effects might be very very tangible, the causes are still sort of mysterious people so. My question is who is sandwich. What what do we know about them? Where do they work? What are they like? Do we have a sense of how this operation actually operates? In some ways the the biggest challenge of reporting this book, and I spent essentially the third act of the book, the last third of the reporting of the book, trying to answer the question of who is in worm, who are these people? Where are they located? What motivates them and I guess to partially spoil the ending here. They are a unit of the year you. They are a part of Russia's military intelligence agency, which is responsible for you know, this is not a coincidence. They are responsible for election meddling responsible for the attempted assassination of You. chemical weapons in the United Kingdom they're responsible for the downing of a seventeen as commercial passenger jet over Ukraine were three hundred innocent people died on the G. R.. You are this incredibly reckless callous out military intelligence agency, but they act like kind of almost just cut through mercenaries around the world. Doing Russia's bidding in ways that are very scary, so I threw essentially like a combination of excellent work of a bunch of security researchers who I was speaking to combined with some confirmation from US intelligence agencies, and then ultimately some other clues from the investigation of Robert Muller into meddling all these things combined created the trail that led to one group within the JERE. You that were you know I? Eventually had some names and faces even address of this this group, and all that was actually only finally fully confirms After the book came out Justin in recent months when the White House finally actually was the State Department's. End as well as the UK on Australian and other governments together finally said yes, sand worm is in fact that this unit of the year you so this theory that I developed in positive near the end of the book was finally basically confirmed by governments just in recent months. So one thing that strikes me at that is I, think of the Russian military things. Gru is being foreboding being obviously, they're very very good at this other a buttoned up in then they have like a incredible social media presence that kind of POPs up throughout the book that distracts from what doing. They set up Gucci for two point Oh when they were doing the DNC hacks that fed to wikileaks in the. That account insisted it was just guy. They set up the shadow brokers which was. I read. It is just like your some goof-balls like they wanted to seem a lot dumber and a lot smaller than they were. They were very effective at it to people I. Talk About those that strategy, and then I guess my question have is like a re better at seeing that strategy for what it is well. You make a really interesting point. The uses these false flags like throughout their recent history that we I should say we don't know that they were responsible for shadow brokers. In fact, nobody knows who shot a brokers. The shadow brokers truly are, and they are in some ways the biggest mystery in this whole story, this one group that hacked the NSA apparently and leaked a bunch of their zero day hacking techniques, or maybe they were even say insiders. We still don't know the answer to that question, but the other other incidents you mentioned. That are you are responsible for this Guja for two point zero fake hacktivists leaked a bunch of the Clinton documents. They're responsible for other false flags like they at one point to call themselves the Cyber Caliphate pretended to be Isis. They've a pretended to be like patriotic pro. Russian Ukrainians at some point they they're always like wearing different masks ends. They're very deceptive. in the a later chapter of the book, some of the biggest one of the biggest attacks they. They did was this attack on the twenty thousand Olympics where they not only wore a false mask, but they actually had layers of false flags where as cyber security researchers W. This melwert was used to destroy the entire back end of the two thousand eighteen winter Olympics. Just as the opening ceremony began, this was a catastrophic events. The aware had all of these fake clues made look like it was Chinese or North Korean or maybe Russian. Nobody could tell it was like. It was this kind of confusion bomb almost designed to to just make researchers throw up their hands. Give up on attributing mallards. Any particular actor was only through some amazing detective work by some of the analysts that I spoke to the able to cut through those false flags identify that sand was behind this essentially, but yeah, it's it is a one very real characteristic of the jury you that they are almost they seem to almost take pleasure or like be showing off their deception capabilities to and their evolving those capabilities they are getting more deceptive over time as fake gets more, destructive aggressive. Advertising content when I say Utopia what comes to mind? Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the Pathak social body. Everybody in that place. Everybody happy now. While the peacock original series brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. The concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. 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Not Connected Right, but the way they throughout the book the way they execute East campaigns they're deeply connected, and that seems like not only just a new kind of warfare, and you kind of craft, but some just consistently seems to work in surprising ways like the tech press is GonNa. Be Like Gucci. I says this and we're. There's never that next step of also we think it's Russian government, and that seems like first of all I'm dying. I imagine the meeting right. I would love to be a fly on the wall of the meeting where they decide what their twitter name is going to be today. I'm very curious how they evolve those attacks in such a way that it just seems to be more and more effective time. Yeah, I mean. I also love to have been those meetings in. It's my one kind of regret in this book that I never actually got. Interviews, it's almost an impossible thing to do. They liked find defectors from the R., you or something. He will tell those stories at a knock it murdered I mean. It's kind of a possible, but but. In some cases? I think your earlier points. They almost seem kind of bumbling in these things they do them in a very improvisational way. for two point Oh seemed almost like it was a justice thing they invented on the spot, tried to cover up some of the the accidental ups like they had left russian-language formatting errors in the documents that they had leaked from the DNC, so they admitted this guy who appeared the next day and started. Talking about being a Romanian. Friends as motherboard Lorenza, Franceschi decry he started this conversation. Align with with Guja for two point, oh basically proved at the guy could not actually properly speak Romanian. BE Russian speaker. In fact, it was. It was almost comical at the same time. They're using very sophisticated hacking techniques doing destructive attacks on a massive scale, but they're also. They seem like they're kind of making it up as they go along. They do things that don't actually seem very kind of strategically smart. They kind of seem like they're trying to impress their boss for the day. Sometimes with just like some sometimes, it's just seems like the Jere. You wakes up in asks themselves. Like what can we blow up today? Rather than thinking like? How can we accomplish the greater strategic objectives of the Russian Federation? So they are fascinating in that way and very stringent colorful group. That's I think one of the biggest questions I have here is. We spend a lot of time trying to imagine what flat and Mirror Putin wants. You know when he grows up, but it. None of this seems targeted like what is the goal for Russia to disrupt the Winter Olympics right like. Is there a purpose to that? Is that just a strike fear? Is it just to? EXPAND THAT SUV influenced. Is it just to say we have the capability furious is there? has there ever really been the stated goal for this kind of cyber warfare? That one is particularly mystifying. I mean you can imagine why Russia would want to attack the Olympics. They were banned from the two thousand Eighteen Olympics doping, but then you would think that they might want to attack the Olympics and send a message maybe like eight deniable message a message that you know if you continue to ban us. We're GONNA. Continue to attack you like like any terrorists would do, but instead they attacked the winter. Olympics in this way, that really seemed like they were trying not to get caught, and instead like make it look like the was Russia North Korea? And then you have to like what is the point of that was? The could kind of. Sit there in Moscow and kind of like rub their hands together in gleefully. Watch this chaos unfolds. It almost really does seem like it was petty vindictive thing that they just for their own emotional needs wanted to make sure that nobody could enjoy the Olympics if they were not going to enjoy them I that was, but that one is i. think outlier in some ways for the most part you can kind of see. The Russia is advancing. The G. R. You that sand worm is advancing something that does generally make sense which is that. In Ukraine for instance, they're trying to make Ukraine look like a failed state. They're trying to make Ukrainians. Lose faith in their security. Services are trying to prevent investors globally from funneling money into Ukraine trying to create a kind of frozen conflict, as we say in Ukraine where there's this constant perpetual state of degradation. They're not trying to conquer the country, but they're trying to create a kind of permanent war in Ukraine and would cyber war. You can do that beyond the traditional front end. It is in some ways the same kind of tactic that they used in other places like the US which. which here we saw more than influence operation that they were hacking leaking organizations like democratic campaign organizations and anti doping organizations to kind of so confusion to embarrass on their targets. They're trying to influence like the international audiences opinion these people, but in Ukraine, it is in some ways, just a different kind of influence operation where they're trying to influence the world's view of Ukraine. Influence Ukrainians view of their themselves under government to make them feel like they are in a war zone even when their kid hundreds of miles from the actual fighting. That's happening on the eastern fronts in the eastern region of. Of Ukraine so in a book you you you go to Kiev. You spent time in Ukraine. Is there a sense in that country that while sometimes light goes out sometimes our TV stations. Their computers don't boot anymore. Because they got rewritten, the Hydros got Zeros like. Is there a sense that this is happening? Is there a sense the defy back is there does Microsoft deploy you know dozens of engineers to to help fight back. How does that play out on the ground there? Yeah, I mean to be fair. Ukrainians are very stoic about these things and regular. Ukrainian citizens were not bothered by you know. Know a short blackout. They didn't particularly care you know. This blackout was the first ever. Hacker induced blackout in history but Ukrainian cyber security. People were very unnerved by this end, people in these actual utilities were traumatized I mean these attacks were truly like relentless sins very kind of scary for the actual operators at the controls I mean in the first blackout attack. These poor operators Ukrainian control room in western Ukraine they were locked out of their computers, and they had to watch their own mouse cursor. Click through circuit breakers, turning off the power in front of them I. Mean They watched it happen? At these kind of Phantom hands to control of their mouse movements, so they took this very very seriously, but yet Ukrainians as a whole I mean they have seen a lot. They are going through an actual physical war. They've seen the seizure of Crimea and the invasion of the east of the country. You know the the date hits. A Ukrainian general was assassinated with a car bomb in the middle of Kiev, so they have a lot of problems, and I'm not sure that cyber war is one of the top of their minds, but not patio I. Did, actually reach Ukrainians normal. Ukrainian civilians to it. It shook them as well. I talked to two regular Ukrainians. who found that they couldn't swipe into the Kiev Metro. They couldn't use their credit card at the grocery store. All the ATM's were down The Postal Service was taken out for every computer that the postal service had was taken out for more than a month. I mean these things really did affect people's lives, but it kind of. A until that kind of climactic worm. Not Patio for I think for this to really reach home for Ukrainians. who have kind of seen so much. How do you fight back? I, mean I one of things that struck me as I was reading. The book is so many of the people you talked to people who are identifying the threat. They're actually private companies. Eyesight was the first even detect it. they are contractors to intelligence agencies the military in some cases, but they're not necessarily the government right like it's not necessarily Microsoft. Who has to issue the patches from the software not necessarily GE which makes simplicity, which is the big industrial controls talk about a lot. How does all that come together into a defense because that seems like harder problem of coordination? Yeah, I mean defense in Cyber. Security is in an eternal problem. It's incredibly complicated, and when you have a really sophisticated determined adversary, it know they will win eventually ends I. think that they're absolutely lessons for defense in this book about you know. Maybe you need to really really think about software updates for instance like the kind that were hijacked to a with this medoc accounting software. As a vector for terrible cyber-attacks. Imagine that like. Any of your insecure apps that have kind of updates can be become a a piece of Malware, really unique to signature networks need to think about patching on. There are just an endless kind of checklist of things to every organization needs to do to protect themselves so. In some ways that just like a Sisyphean task and I don't. I don't try to answer that question in the book because it's too big, and it's kind of boring as well, but what I do really hammer on is the thing that the government's really could've done here. which is to try to establish norms tried to control attackers through diplomacy through kind of disciplinary action through things like kind of Geneva Convention for Cyber War if. If you think about a kind of analogy to say like chemical weapons, we could just try to give everyone in the world a gas mask that they have to carry around with them at all times, or we could create a Geneva. Convention norm that chemical weapons should not be used in if they are than crime, and you get pulled in front of the Hague. Hague and we've done the ladder and I think that in some ways should be part of the the answer to cyber war as well we need to establish norms and make countries like Russia or like organizations like the G. Are you understand that there will be consequences for these kinds of attacks, even when the victim is not the US or NATO or the? The EU and I think we're only just starting to think about that. One of the questions I had as reading is it seems like a very clear red line for almost everyone you talk to is attacks on the power grid right? That is just unacceptable. You should not do it if you do it. You've crossed a line and there should be some consequence. Is, that clear to governments. Is that something that our government says? It's something that the says it has been established. It seems like it's it's the conventional wisdom wants to salvage, but I'm not unclear whether that is actually the line that exists. It definitely has not been established, and when I kind of did these I managed to get sort of interviews with the top cyber security officials in the Obama ends trump administration Jay Michael Daniel was the cyber. Cyber Coordinator for the administration was the kind of cyber coordinator boss in the The Homeland Security Adviser for trump and both of them when I asked him about like wiped. Why didn't you know to put it bluntly like? Why didn't you respond? When Russia caused blackouts in Ukraine? Both of them essentially said well. You know that's not actually the rule that we want to set. We want to be able to cause blackouts in our adversaries networks. In their power grids when we are in a war situation or when we believe it's in our national interest, so you know that's the thing about these cyber war capabilities. This is part of the problem that every country. Absolutely the US among them isn't really interested in controlling these weapons, because we in this kind of Lord of the rings fashion, we are drawn to them to like we want to maintain the ability to use those weapons ourselves and nobody wants to throw this ring in the fires, of Mount Doom. We all wanted maintain the ring and imagine that we can use it for good in out. So that's why neither administration called that Russia for doing this because they want that power to. Make the comparison to to nuclear weapons but Negotiated drawdown and treaties with Russia in the past we count warheads where aware that the United States stockpiles can destroy the world. Fifty Times over today maybe tomorrow one hundred hundred like what we have a sense of the the measure of force that we can. Put on the world when it comes to nuclear weapons, there's a sense that Oh, we should never use these right like we have them as a deterrent, but we've gained out that actually leads to his mutually assured destruction like there's an entire body of academics. There's entire body of researchers. Entire body is got scenario planning with that kind of weapon. Does that same thing exist for for cyber weapons. There are absolutely. Know community is of academics. Policymakers who are thinking about this stuff now, but I don't think it's kind of gotten through to actual government decision. that. There needs to be kind of cyber deterrence in how that would work. In in the comparison to nuclear weapons is like instructive, but not exactly helpful. In fact, it's kind of counter-productive because we cannot deter cyber-attacks with other cyber-attacks i. don't think that's GonNa work in part because we haven't even tried to establish it yet. There are no kind of rules or read lines, but then I think more importantly. Everybody thinks that they can get away with cyberattacks that they can. They're going to create a false flag. That's clever enough that that when they blow up a power grid, they can blame their neighbor instead, so they think they're. They're gonNA. Get Away with it, and that causes them to do it anyway. A not fear the kind of assured destruction so I think that the the right response, the way to to deter cyber attacks is not with the promise of a cyber attack in return. It's with all the other kind of tools we have, and they've been used sometimes, but but they were not in the case of Sand Werman. Those tools include like sanctions which came far too late in the story indictments of hackers. In some cases, we still haven't really seen syndrome. Hackers indicted for the things that they did in Ukraine or or even not petty. And then ultimately just kind of messaging like calling out naming and shaming bad actors, and that has happened to some degree with Sandra, but in some cases there have still been massive failures there there has still been no public attribution of the Sandwich attack on the twenty eighteen Olympics I mean. My Book has been out for months. I think show pretty clear evidence that syndrome is responsible for this attack. The very least it was Russia and yet the US and Korean War, These Olympics took place at UK, none of these governments have named Russia as having done that. That attack which almost just invites them to do it again whenever our next Olympics are going to be, I guess maybe not this year, but if you don't send that message than you're just essentially inviting Russia to try again so I think might my big question is what happens now? I mean right we you write about. The NSA has tailored access operations, which is their elite hacking group. We are obviously interested in maintaining some of these capabilities. We've come to a place where people are writing books about how it works. What is the next step? What is the next? does it just keep getting worse or does this kind of diplomacy you're talking about? Is that beginning to happen I? Think there is some little glimmers of hope about the diplomacy beginning to happen I mean this year in February I think it was the State Department's called out a sand worm attack on Georgia, where a worms hackers basically took down a ton of Georgian websites by attacking the hosting providers as well as a couple of TV's broadcasters in the US. State Department with a few other governments not. said this was sand. Worm named the unit of the GRU. That's is that was confirmation that I've been looking for for a long time, but they also made a point of saying that we're calling this out is unacceptable, even though Georgia. Georgia is not part of NATO or the U. so that's that's progress. That's essentially creating a new kind of rule. That's state-sponsored. Hackers can't do certain things, no matter who the victims and that's really important. Also, it was kind of interesting because federal officials like gave me a heads up about that announcement before happened, which they have very very rarely do and I think they were trying. To say was in we. We read your book and we. Got The message okay like Stop attacking us about this like we're trying. We're doing something different here I. Don't want flatter myself that I actually changed their policy, but it did seem interesting that they wanted to tell me personally about this so i. I think that like maybe our stance on this kind of diplomacy is evolving, and we're learning lessons, but at the same time we also see the attacks evolving to. To and their new innovations in these kinds of disruption happening, we've seen since some of these terrible Sandra attacks. You know other very scary things like this piece of our called Triton or crisis that was used to disabled safety systems in a oil refinery in Saudi Arabia on that was you know that could have caused an actual physical explosion of petrochemical facility? The the attacks are evolving to okay final last real question. Tell people where they can get your book. You can find all kinds of places by on indie Greenberg Dot net. Written another book as well previously, yes. That's right. I wrote a book about wikileaks. Cypher punks and things like that. That's right well. I'm a huge fan. It was an honor to talk to you. Thank you so much for coming on I know it's. It's a weird time to be talking about anything, but the coronavirus I was very happy to talk about something else, which is that it seems a little bit more in control Even if it is quite dangerous, a thank you for the time. I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm glad to provide people with a different kind of apocalypse as a distraction.
"obama white house" Discussed on The Dan Bongino Show
"Sally Yates. That's no way regarding Russian. Interference at the two thousand sixteen election in particular rice writes in email to herself which is bizarre in and of itself. Say President Obama began the conversation by stressing his continue committed to ensuring that every aspect of the issue is handled by the intelligence and law enforcement communities quote by the book. Yeah now vast you this before joe injustice the audience referee the Voice of the audience. Out there have you ever sent an email to yourself about in other words. I initially met did the podcast right And I laid out a couple of things I was looking for. You ever send an email to yourself. Say Make sure you follow Dan. Bongino instructions by the book. Did you ever send Joe Armacost? Joe armacost that email like that when I was so now. Okay why would joe do something he would because Joe would have to be a scammer and try to what he does is he wants in court come out that he sent an email to himself that he was doing it by the book because he wasn't doing it by the book and he thinks the emails is defense mechanism. It reminds me this email of G. I. Jane the Demi Moore Navy seal movie where there's an interesting quote in there where she goes in and she wants to yell at the Commanding Officer Base. Because she thinks he's being treated unfairly a navy school and the commanding officer up and. Barks back at her. That people don't WanNa don't WanNa make statements don't make statements about not making statements all right in other words to be more concerned. Because I don't want to make a statement but there's no but then just don't make a statement Zip Susan. Rice seems to be making a statement about not making a statement which is in fact making State Ryan and that statement is this. That's not what went down at that January fifth meeting. And you damn well know it. I can almost guarantee you. What went down at that meeting with Komi Sal in known trump hater sally from the DOJ. Susan Rice and Obama was entirely different than what Susan? Rice isn't making a statement about that email. Maybe it went downstairs. Something like this January fifth now trump's about to take office the presidency in just days. Obama knows full. Well they are involved the biggest political scandal of all time they spied on a political campaign the trump team with the FBI and the DOJ. What they use. The spy was fake dossier. Real dossier was fake information. They all know it's fake at this point. They absolutely categorically no. It's fake Obama realizes they have a problem. That trump is gonNA come into office soon. Have access to this. Bevy of classified information is GONNA figure out quite quickly that he got screwed over. Royally at his enmeshed. Deeply is a victim of the biggest political scandal. In American history so Obama's probably sitting there at the resolute desk in the Oval Office with his legs up saying put on the desk saying Hey. We got a mess on four. Their moon broke some jelly. Who's GonNa who's GONNA clean that up? I can imagine Komi going sir. I get the they're all talking in code. Of course because of Mama ever wants to say anything right right because he's plausible deniability right. I was talking to Jelly Obama's probably. Yeah we broke some Jelly on Al Gore. You know how parents talk about things around their kids and things I'm talking about. If you're a parent we doing all the time policy. Don't even dare go there. It's best part about the show. You give me activation 's whatever so Obama sitting there only she gets that joke Obama's center. We got a jelly bottle of broken out four. I got the perfect mop and bucket for the Jelly Al for Susan. Rice is like do you think? We need to disinfect. This floor on Al Four if the Jelly Brook Sally. Yates is like about a little floor. Polish after we clean it up and they're all like yeah we gang and nodding all of a sudden word magically gets back to Christopher Steele. Hey do you have any emails? Documenting your writing that real dossier with fake information that we use to spy on trump. Who's going to be the presence soon? Yes maybe what a break. Some jelly wake nod steals like. I'm a Jelly Br. Everybody's did you see the movie. What is it the Irishman on net flicks about Hoffa? They asked the guy the guy. He's he's a killer for hire and they call up the Deniro characters. I hear you pay thousands. Remember that yeah. Yeah hey houses. He meant shooting people painting houses with blood. That's what he meant. I hear you pay thousands Steele. I hear you break jelly bottles. Oh I break jelly bottles better than anyone. And all of a sudden on the same day as the meeting in the Oval Office about the Jelly Breaking January fifth this day. Steel winds up deleting all the emails what an odd coincidence to break jelly bottles. I break chilly bottles better than anyone else in.
"obama white house" Discussed on The Dan Bongino Show
"DOT COM against the national average of one thousand nine hundred and thirty five dollars an intergovernmental spending per America in other words Joe the federal government spends an average of one thousand nine hundred and thirty five dollars in federal tax dollars a given back to the states. Listen to this red states received. Just one thousand nine hundred seventy nine dollars. Blue States get considerably more at two thousand one hundred twenty four dollars per resident so of course liberals are always lying. The story is actually inverted. When you measure tax dollars per person which matters based on state budgets and state size. It's actually red states. That are being red states. That are subsidizing blue states. You've got the story backwards as you always do. It's always a hoax. There's always a scam. I can't even do laughing so hard last night. We Paul about this the whole thing all right enough on that you can read it. I just want to start the show. Today it's important to punk this liberal nonsense before it takes Just a quick. It's Friday I like to present some lighter stuff. President trump at the presser yesterday is asked a question about Joe Biden. Ladies and gentlemen you know I love the president but I've got to tell you yesterday. His answer about sleepy Joe during that. The Corona Virus Presser is one of the funniest things I've ever heard he's asked about Joe Biden any president. He's he's a sleepy guy. Who's not moving much? Check this out this Larry's I can't tell you what's going to happen. We have a sleepy guy in a basement of a house that the press is giving a free pass to who doesn't WanNa do debates because of covert and lots of things are happening right and I watched a couple of interviews and I say oh I look forward to this. But they're keeping them sheltered because of the corona virus and he's not moving around his that moving too much Larry. He's a sleeping Joe. He's a sleepy guy. Yeah I can't I can't it's I missed one. There's actually three takeaways. I only mentioned too sleepy guided. He's a sleepy guy in a basement. Moving around much saris Friday. It is a subset of show today. I got a lot of this stuff. So let me just get to the hoax. They quick because I don't want to be so last night. I'm sitting there with Paula and I was laughing about trump. I loved. I get into anyone who knows me my friends who listen to these words. Get in my head and I can never get about. It's I don't know what it is. It's a little. Ocd thing. I I can't and I find them hilarious and it's not I don't try to make sense of it and they'll make no sense because some of the things I do know said but the word the hoax thing has be laughing my butt off Wei me. How trump jr ever noticed this joe at oppressor like he just randomly declares hoaxes. I just love it. I mean he'll ask you questions that's a hoax. I just love it. It's the funny. I was laughing so.
Are we doing enough to prevent the spread of COVID-19?
"Joined by. Dr Ezekiel Emanuel former Obama. White House Health Policy Advisor. He's Vice Provost Global Initiatives University of Pennsylvania and Dr Peter Hotels Dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine Doctor Manual. When we start with you. Where do you see us right now? Are we doing enough in terms of large scale social disruption and changes to slow the transmission of this epidemic? So first of all. I've been saying for several weeks now that it's going to get worse before it gets better. Parsley it's GonNa get worse because we have testing. That's just going to show us how prevalent the illness is. It's also getting worse because we know we have more community acquired infections as I mentioned to someone today. You know one week ago. We weren't even talking about new Rochelle and now new. Rochelle is a major topic in New York. And that's a lockdown and if we focus on new Rochelle without thinking about all the other places that this virus is maybe Washington. Dc maybe the suburbs of Baltimore. Who knows where the problem is? We need a more systematic less uneven response. That has to be pretty uniform. Because just 'cause we're seeing it new Rochelle doesn't mean Rochelle's the only place in New York that Scott and that response does have to include things like much more prevalent testing so we really have a handle on who's got it and who doesn't and a really good model is South Korea if you look at their trends you can see that. They're beginning to bend in South Korea. We also do need to inform people. We use the term social distancing like everyone knows what it means. It's not immediately obvious to people what that entails and how much you need to be separate from people explain to what should people know about but a large part of it. You people have come up with all these numbers no more than one hundred people to meet no more. The issue is density. How close are you to people? How easy is it for the droplets to spread? How much are you sort of packed in light sardines or not and that real? I mean that's a physical thing That is really important and I do think we probably need to educate people to minimize the. They're our contact and to stay home more. You can go out where there's no one else if you're going walking in the woods or something or going to a place where there are other people But I do think Restricting how we move around is going to be important I will note that not every but most of the Ivy League schools now for example colleges mine included. We're going online. The second half of the semester is all going to be online. Students aren't going to be in. Dormitories accepts students. That can go back to their home country and still complete the semester. So you are seeing a lot of action. But it's not concerted and that's what it's not systematic and that's what's bothering me Dr Hotels. We've been checking with you throughout the unfolding of the goal pandemic and I'm curious. Are we learning more about the virus itself about the basics about the transmission rate? Which seems to be maybe lower than at first. We thought the fatality rate the incubation period. Where is our knowledge right now about this so the transmission rate still seems to be? Pretty High Dr Fao. She mentioned. It's probably a significantly higher than the influenza as well as the mortality rate. But the you know just to echo and reinforce some of the things zeke Doctor Emmanuel was was saying we've learned a few things from a recent analysis. My colleague Mark Lipchitz sit at Harvard School of Public Health Chan School of Public Health together with a student a doctoral student. Ruan Lee didn't analysis of the Chinese cities in terms of how severe the epidemic is with the extreme example being Wuhan rare nine thousand people wound up in and severely ill with two thousand in the ICU versus city. Like Long Joe where there was only twenty a big difference right and it looked like it's primarily to do to how quickly you got on top of things after sustained community transmission started. So they let it go for six weeks. Before they implemented aggressive control and testing whereas in Guangzhou were the only at twenty cases one week. What's the lesson learned from the United States We're now about three weeks into this in terms of sustained community transmission. We had our first case of community transmission around the end of April so subtract a week before then. So we're getting to the point where because we're not doing adequate diagnostic testing and implementing those very important control measures. That seek pointed out. We're in a situation. Where we could risk being closer to Wuhan and Guangzhou and and we do we. We can't be there so now is a very critical period over the next couple of weeks where we have to be very aggressive about closing down major venues. We just this Houston. Today with the Rodeo was a tough decision but was the right decision that we're going to have to do this all over the country right now and the reason is this because if we miss that opportunity we then have. Our new problem becomes surge capacity hospitals. Where we're not gonNA have enough beds. We're not GONNA have enough into ventilators. We don't want to go in that direction. So now's now czar. Big Schnauzer going to be our last chance. We've already missed that in over the last few weeks. Can I reemphasize something? Peter says which is so in the entire United States. We have about eight hundred thousand hospital beds a little under eight hundred thousand hospital beds. In the entire United States we have under seventy thousand adult intensive care unit. Beds we have about sixty five thousand ventilators with the strategic supply. I've heard that it goes up slightly under one hundred thousand. That's our maximum capacity in the country at the moment if you imagine that even two percent of the population gets the corona virus and we have about six percent who are seriously. Ill GonNa need a respirator. We've exhausted all that supply. Just for those patients. Forget the heart attack patients. Forget the patients who need it for any other reason and I think what Peter said is exactly right we probably have missed two or three turns over the last few weeks where we could have gotten things down and just focusing on the hot spots. Seattle New Rochelle. I think is not. We need a much more systematic countrywide approach so that we don't overwhelm the healthcare system. Which already you know doesn't have that much search capacity in it. Dr Hotels Final Point to you for people that are watching this I. I've struggled with this for the last three weeks right. Communicating in a way that does not induce catastrophe or panic but also is clear eyed about the risks. And I do think it's worth just going back to the distinction between your individual risk you random American one of three hundred thirty million that you will get very sick and need to be hospitalized or may as life threatening illnesses that individual risk for any given random person is probably low in the grand scheme of things and this systemic risk to the society and to the healthcare system which is extremely high at this moment. Is that a fair way of phrasing. It yeah absolutely and also remember. It's it's all about communicating. What our top priorities are in. This is what I've been disappointed about. We've lost a lot of time because of a blanket statements that are not backed by data saying this is contained. This is this is the cold. This is the flu when in fact we know that there are specific groups that are at high risk including older older individuals those with underlying disabilities and our healthcare workers. And so what I've been looking for is at the White House. Press briefings to say. Look these are four. Bit Concerns Right. These are three or four populations That were concerned about This is a why we need to get on top of this very quickly. And here's what we're doing about it and and historically the American people have responded very well to this They understood this three. Bola Zeka as we say. This is not our first Rodeo so so we know how to respond and we just need that clear kind of concise messaging right now. All right. Just had one thing to Chris. Point which is we also do know the ass for any individual. The risk is low except we do know that there are certain people and Peter Emphasize of those who are over sixty or sixty five those who have chronic illness. They are at high risk and what we have done in. This country is aggregate them in nursing homes. Those are most vulnerable people people in nursing and we really have to social distance. There reduced the number of visitors. Probably two zero. Make sure that people are counting up and taking a donning protective equipment so that we don't have that Patriot play just explode with corona virus like it did in Seattle because almost every one of them is really on the verge just like the cruise ships. Good Point -portant point Zeki Manual. Dr Peter Hotels. Thank you
"obama white house" Discussed on WMAL 630AM
"Emanuel with is pals. In the media. Democrat. The media is not adversarial. You don't have an adversarial relationship with the media anywhere. Are there to fluffier? They're there to carry your luggage there to cut your lawn. Come over a dress up your house for Christmas if they have to they're really don't like Christmas. But Rahm Emanuel was on with his pals over the weekend. Rob who has declared Chicago to be a Trump free zone. Went on CNN. This is how absurd this whole thing is the interview at CNN was done with CNN anchor. David Axelrod, David Axelrod is an Obama administration official who used to be a reporter in Chicago, Illinois, before he left that behind to become a democrat politician, just like Jay Carney, and so many there were Jim Shudo there were dozens and dozens of so-called journalists that dropped everything when Barack Obama's elected to go to work for him. And David Axelrod had already left big lorries of journalism and gone into democrat politics. What's the difference years before? But he was an Obama. For many years in the Obama White House, and then CNN immediately hired him and gave him a show where he could be a host is just like ABC hired George Stephanopoulos from the Clinton administration. Now, you can't point to any news anchor. That's on television at CNN or MSNBC are FOX that used to be a Republican party apparatchik. There are some that are clearly like Sean Hannity on one side of the issue or the other. But they're not former administration officials and also that's opinion journalism. These guys aren't supposed to be opinion journalists, I guess Axelrod. What's the difference at CNN? You can't tell the difference. But George Stephanopoulos was hired precisely because he was a democrat party apparatchik. And that's what ABC news was looking for. And I was watching yesterday. I was watching because I have to it's my job Jake tapper on CNN on state of the union, it's called state of the union. So they call which is like the president's speech every year, and then they have a show called the situation room. They they've like governmentalise to themselves with their own rhetoric. And Jake tapper had who was it. What's his name with the lap banned from New York, you know, Jerry, Nadler, Jerry Nadler on and Jerry Nadler who is going to be the head of the judiciary committee in the house. I think once Nancy Pelosi becomes the speaker of the house again because the Democrats run the house Jerry Nadler was on and Jake tapper teed up a tax on Donald Trump using Jerry Nadler as a friendly to just say what CNN is thinking. And then they had Marco Rubio Marco Rubio's Republican. So then it says job to defend Trump is while they're still pursuing the same line of questioning the same angle. You're a democrat. You're you're invited to come out and to attack Trump, you're a Republican. You're you're invited to come out while CNN attacks Trump. And you defend Trump. That's how the system works. That's journalism. That's how you win a word. That's how you become the hero of your network. And Marco Rubio was good is not are ferocious defender of President Trump. But he was he was good. The show, however is just and Jake tapper. Of course, I've pointed out before I don't Jake tapper is a bad guy run into Jake tapper around town, we still talk at least a little bit maybe less and less as time goes on. But Jake tapper is another former democrat hill staffer Chuck Todd is another former democrat hill staffer Jake tapper worked for the member of congress whose son Mary Chelsea Clinton. So it's one big happy rubber dub dub circle fest and a tub it's good to be a democrat. Because everywhere you turn another democrat operative. Playing the role of journalists when you come on to be interviewed and they fluff. You if you're a democrat, and they try to kill everything Republican if you're a Republican it's what they do. Now, a few kind of kowtow, and bow and tell them what they want and and say, there are certain Republicans Jeff flake has the latest. You say what the media wants to hear? And it's pretty easy to know what they wanna hear. They say the same thing every hour of every day over and over again. But I digress. They invited. Rahm Emanuel, again, a Clinton administration official to sit down with David Axelrod, an Obama administration official at CNN it's like the Soviet Union. It's like, Iran. Our news media is just so shockingly corrupt well at least appallingly corrupt if not shockingly and they've got Rahm Emanuel. Having a tax teed up by David Axelrod and CNN calls. It news. And Rahm Emanuel has has big messages. Don't focus a mmediately on Trump saying he wants to attack everybody else these left as they like to jail all their political enemies on trumped up charges. They do it all over the world. They're just making things better like they did with the bathrooms at Starbucks. Megan it, all better. Rahm Emanuel told his pal David Axelrod, don't focus immediately on Trump, you have something. But the secretary of labor you have with EPA you have in the interior department. You have it at the Commerce Department. You have it at HUD, say he wants to have hearings to attack everybody at the departments and agencies. He has brought talking about Trump Rahm Emanuel says he has brought the swamp to Washington and flooded the planes, and I think Muller will deal with Trump. Yeah. That's it. You think come and manual said in an interview with David Axelrod? It's one democrat White House official talking to another democrat White House official one has the mayor of Chicago Rahm Emanuel things are going splendidly. There is about to be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail things are going so great, but you know, Democrats fail up. Barack Obama had no reason to be elected to the Senate. And there is going to be elected to the state Senate had no accomplishments to his name state Senate crooked democrat machine. Oh, yeah. US Senate crooked democrat machine Illinois in Chicago. And then he did nothing in the in the in the Senate, the US Senate he was a backbencher who contributed essentially nothing. And that's why Harry Reid told him. He should run for president. So the senate's really not for you. It requires a little bit of work maybe running for president would be best. And then the news media said, yeah, that's a great idea. And they turned him into a can of corn. And they sold them to us. And then we bought him and we had him for eight years. Well, isn't that wonderful? And on the x files on CNN Rahm Emanuel said you have an entire government. That's not on its game. Protecting the American people says the democrat is the democrat steadfastly refused refused to fund border security in the south and gut our military at every turn. But other than that, they're big on protecting the American people they want protect the American people from the American people. You'll see that the real problem. They say is the American people, and he says the house should focus there. He's never been very articulate rob Emmanuel he stumbles around. He's got a fat tongue in his does that very sharp on his feet. I've gotta say. But he's been you know, he he made what twenty five million dollars or sort of? Maybe it was just sixteen million dollars in one year working for that. What was his name Ed Whitaker that the Obama administration? Then made the cars are and the the head of of GM when we were bailing out GM the tax payers, and they they chose Rahm emanuel's all business partner that puts sixteen million dollars in Rahm emanuel's pockets in one year for doing nothing, and then they made Ed Whitaker the head of GM and the day. He was picked he famously said, I don't know anything about cars that doesn't matter because it's the Soviet Union. Just how things are and in England. Perhaps you've heard of Great Britain, the UK the story is that Theresa May the prime minister there may just cancelled the vote on the British exit from the EU the Brexit. They like to condense it turn it into a portmanteau two words in one like search with a drop of red Skelton. Brexit was voted on by the people and the people voted to leave the EU now the ruling class elites, including Theresa May may just say, well, we don't care how you voted. We're not gonna do it. We're gonna pull out, and it's kind of what the Democrats the left what to do here with the Trump election for the presidency of the United States. They just want to nullify the election. They tried and they tried they've tried and they've tried and they've tried. They're going to keep trying. But now Theresa May and her fellow travelers in Great Britain may pull the plug. On the Brexit vote. And you know, what's going on in Paris right now. Did you know that it spread to Brussels and the Netherlands, and that there have been yellow vest riots with tear gas and fire cannons? Water cannons and stuff in Belgium, and the Netherlands those are two completely different countries. There's France, then there's Belgium, then there's the Netherlands and now these yellow jacket protests are going on yellow vest and a I like yellow jacket better. But they have the yellow vest because they're mandatory. If you have a car, you gotta have a yellow vest. Sir. Buddies got him in there out there. Torching staff and burning things, and and all of this good stuff and. And the news media CNN and the rest, they're really not covering it. It's it is a rejection of the of the left agenda, which has we're just gonna keep taking and taking and taking until you burn the place down. And now they've kind of found the breakpoint. With their new taxes on diesel, Don gasoline, and the response in Great Britain among the some of these phrases, these terms and phrases, get a little hackneyed and a little tired. You know, the ruling class and the establishment. But the reality is, you know, these are. That the the entrenched lifetime government apparat checks. They are the the entrenched establishment. And they don't care about democracy. They give it a lot of talk that a lot of lip service for how much they care about this. And that, but when the rubber meets the road when it comes time to prove that you really do believe in democracy, they proved that they don't. It's all lip service. It's all Bs. They have their agenda. The agenda is an internationalist agenda. It's the Davos, Aspen agenda, and they all laugh about it smugly. And and these news people, they think they're part of the inside club. They're not they're just being used and they're happy to be used to advance the agenda, but they don't get a seat at the table. That aren't even get scraps. They don't get crumbs. They they just feel that maybe as a horse holder in the back of the room. They're really a part of what's going on there. A part of their part of history. Try being a reporter try doing your job. Batted change things a lot in this country. So may may delay headlines out of Great Britain may polls parliamentary vote on her Brexit deal. The Reuters news agency from just minutes ago. Well couple of hours ago. British Prime Minister Theresa may abruptly decided on Monday, so pull a parliamentary vote on her Brexit deal. Throwing Britain's plan to leave the European Union up in the air on the eve of the vote after repeated warnings from members of parliament that she faced our route. Well, there was no immediate official announcement a source in Whitehall, the center of British power said the vote would be delayed decision. The government could take without having to get the approval of parliament, the move thrusts the United Kingdom's divorce from the European Union into chaos with possible options, including a disorderly Brexit with no deal another referendum on E U membership or a last minute renegotiation of Theresa May's deal may zone position could face swift challenge may not opposition labor party. Jeremy Corbyn said the United Kingdom no longer had a functioning government. This is this is great. This is what's going on in Paris. And elsewhere in France, what's going on in Belgium. Well, it's going on in the Netherlands, which is like, Holland, where Dutch people come from and Frank house the Milky Way. Canals all that stuff. This is all about the power hungry power drunk left it honestly as all of it. The common thread here is that macaroni and from Aaj is advancing left wing agenda by jacking, everybody's taxes once again because it's always their answer to everything and with the Frenchie franchisee paying seventy percent or whatever they pay of their income, and they see them sneak in another backdoor tax, which is designed to beat them like their lab rats into behaving differently and driving less. The people finally have it enough of the people finally have had it. And that is a that's a big development. Then you see it spreading the other European Liberal lefty western European democracies? And and then watch what happens when these people. The people have spoken in Great Britain. And if the government leaders are gonna. To say, well, screw you people. We're going to do what we want. We don't care what your vote said just like the Democrats wanted to reverse the presidential election here. I would expect I don't think you have to have yellow vests in Great Britain. But I would expect to see something similar happening there and lickety-split as Chaz Bono likes to say, if you're like most normal people, you see two gas stations ahead of you. When you're tooling down the road. One gas station sells gas for less you probably turn into that one. That's why they have those big signs on the of the property there. It makes sense because you're saving.
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"They're, they're unhinged on this Rosa's. New book is called unhinged as if the Obama White House is unhinged. I think the media is more in hinged than I've ever seen in my lifetime. Totally. It is. It's ridiculous how unhinged they are. I mean, they, they witness that's over twenty four Nazis twenty four stupid white guys. The got out and did the anniversary of Charlottesville. I mean, how stupid is that? How ridiculous is that? Well, it's so ridiculous. Only twenty four people showed up and they make. They make that out to be one of the worst things that's ever happened in the history of the of the planet. Meanwhile, hundreds of antifa anti-american idiots are going up and down the streets chanting, violent phrases, and this. No. No USA. No, no, no USA. Okay. These are patriots. These are just regular Americans. These are people you support media? No border, no wall, no USA at all. Do agree with that chant. They also had banners talking about the fact that they need bullets to bash the Fash fascists the white people the, I guess the Trump people, they need to shoot them, but they're the good guys, right? According to Chris Cuomo, we'll play that for you little later on Krikorian Chris Cuomo. Yeah, they're the good guys and the bigotry far outweighs anything they do with the violence and the rhetoric. I. Wow. This tiny little fraction is all they have to hang onto these little idiot, Ida Neo Nazis that nobody pays attention to their denounced all the time. Nobody wants anything to do with them on the right and they're not right wing people. They're big government people. They're Nazis, national socialists, come on. I mean, it's absurd. I don't even house a possible that we have to put up with this all the time. Triple eight, nine hundred thirty three ninety. Three. I think we do have the the Chris Cuomo saying that those who use punches to fight hate, get this. Are better than bigots who use violence, wait. Okay. So those who use punches to fight hate I. So I guess he decides what the good cause is and what the good 'cause isn't where the violence is appropriate and where the violence isn't appropriate must see if we can figure out his lunacy here. Chris cops, you slap the media, you're in the wrong period. But I argue tonight, all punches are not equal morally in the eyes of the law. Yes, but in the eyes of good and evil. Here's the argument. If you're a punk comes to start trouble in a mask and hurt people. You're not about any virtuous. 'cause you're just somebody who's going to be held to the standard of doing something wrong. But when someone comes to call out bigots and it gets hot, even physical, are they equally wrong as the big they are fighting. I argue no fighting again. I hate matters now how you fight matters to. There's no question about that, but drawing a moral quivalent between those espousing hate and those fighting it because they both resort to violence emboldens hate legitimizes hateful belief and elevates what should be stamped out are people who go to war against an evil regime on the same moral ground as those they seek to stop from oppressing the weak. First of all, his premise completely flood. He's he's acting as if he is set up the premise that antifa is there to fight hate. Hate itself. They hate the country. They hate white people. They hate Donald Trump. They hate the administration. They hate all Republicans. They hate capitalism. They hate this nation. They are hate personified. Get on your high horses set up these false premises, if you're fighting, hey, will in. That's. It's okay. Oh my gosh. I mean. What did this guy get a job? Seriously? How did he get a job that is lunacy should try to get that guy. He'll never come on. We tried to get him on patents to one point and he wouldn't. It was too afraid. None of these people have the courage of conviction to come on a show with an opposing point of view because they know they'll lose their just gonna lose. You can't shop that kind of crap when somebody is calling you on it, and he gets sit there and do a monologue with his with his crew and nobody ever challenges him because it's in his studio, and there's nobody there to challenge him. Come on his show and defend that nonsense with your false premise that antifa is fighting hate. Antifa is hate personified. Let me tell you about a great product and this half hour sponsor. Field.
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"That was a very emotional flight there was a few staff along for the ride and the the i remember talking to my uh fellow staff members saying how excited i was that i now only had one device i had my personal iphone and i no longer had a blackberry and that was uh that's how i cut ties to the white house that to me was the the the greatest thing to let go of is that blackberry and i remember walking none i'll say an ally of one device and we flew to palm springs and and it was the one time where we encountered weather so severe that we couldn't land and we made four or five or six attempts to land in palm springs in we couldn't because of the fog and that was a little unnerve and where the plane is going down in than it was quick gone back up and that happened several times and we ended up landing at some military base like an hour away or something like that and so is because of that it was sort of anticlimatic saying goodbye to them plus it was not like a final goodbye when i said by final goodbye to president reagan at the end of his administration i didn't know if i were to ever see him again because i was not that close to him personally when i said goodbye to president obama in palm springs you know i hugged both he and michelle but i knew that i would see them again so wasn't a it was a final goodbye was like enjoy your vacation there were a handful of us that then stayed on the plane and we just flew right back to dc and in drop them off.
"obama white house" Discussed on Fresh Air
"Yeah i think you is more aware of uh photographers and and photography and especially when it came to doing these portrait sessions which president obama hated to do he hated actually pose for you know magazine covers or for photo shoots he hated that whereas president reagan um i think accepted that more and was more willing to give time to photographers to serve create these photographs for the magazine or you know for a cover our furred like time and newsweek would often do portrait's in the oval office or outside the oval office and he was very much more accommodating for those kind of situations and president obama um so did your political feelings affect your work with president reagan our president obama no i did not necessarily agree with some of the things that president reagan was doing but i did feel that he was he was a genuine person who in his mind was doing what he thought was right for the country like it'd be difficult to photograph someone that you didn't like but in terms of whether everything the man your photographing if you agree with everything they do or you don't that's not an issue for me so after president trump's inauguration you were in a helicopter with president obama and michelle obama as they left washington because they were headed off to vacation you took a final shot of the president in a helicopter gazing over the white house as helicopter flew over the white house then you landed someplace and matra wear and then i assume you say goodbye to the president and michelle ma always a moment like for you that could buy.
"obama white house" Discussed on Fresh Air
"So if said that you know being of a white as photographers really a job for someone in their mid are forty is in your fifty four when you started um so gosh now though whole world's going to know um you watched obama age we all washed obama age in office has every president does you feel like you aged more than the eight years maybe i asked my wife i did it the my my hair didn't tour is gray's is president obama's but like now i've got this this bald spot that's cut out of the top of my head which kind of annoys me but i guess that's that comes with a as you age so i think you just blame obama care no i too to be serious for a second me i try to um you know one of the things that i hear about president obama and i'm somewhat jealous of is he's very disciplined person in terms of exercise and diet and you know people say he age will that's mostly because his here's kanter gray but i i bet abed he's probably in better shape today than he was in january two thousand nine and you know i took a page from that and i did try to exercise regularly try to eat rice aid be you know those things make it make a mega difference before you were a president obama's white house photographer you were one of the photographers for the white house during the reagan administration um you know president reagan had started his career in hollywood so he had been used to earlier in his life publicity shots and having films that he was in so i arrogant he had a different sense of photography then other presidents because of their hollywood experienced did you get a sense of that from him.
"obama white house" Discussed on Fresh Air
"When north korea tested a missile and he was having this meaning like in the open everybody at the dinner could have observed that i think with somebody at the dinner who took the photo you posted a photo of this special secure location that was erected when the president was travelling and there was a need for a very secure meeting and you're right that everyone had to leave their blackberry outside the area see posted a photo from march two thousand eleven that was an example of that comment a common is a uh that speaks for itself what was your most stressful moment if you can narrow it down to one or two when you are the white house photographer i'll start out by saying that compared to what some photojournalists do you had my friend lindsay a dario on a while back who puts herself into extremely dangerous situations to capture a life on the edge of war zones she's been kidnapped compared to that my job was not stressful i thank the hard times from me were just the constant 247 aspect of of this job and the physical told it takes on you the emotional toll a tastes i knew in terms of your family life you know these long asia trips you know the president trump's on this law asia trip right now those are brutal uh on your body in eight year you're working on fumes than adrenaline in those situations are really long days you're you're not getting good sleep and so those of the those were were the hard times but again i compared to.
"obama white house" Discussed on Fresh Air
"And president trump said that if you look at president obama and other presidents most of them didn't make cars and then describe what you did on your instagram account first of all i would say that i try not to even mention president trump and my instagram feed and i actually give him the better for the doubt in terms of the call that he made to this widow where uh you know this is a difficult calls to make and i don't think he intentionally meant to make this woman feel bad but you know she did and he should've just let it go as far as i'm concerned but then he tried to turn it into you know blaming president obama for not making calls in and bush and clinton and you know i spent eight years with this man and we went to walter reed i think twenty four times in eight years where we saw sometimes severely injured soldiers and he would span hours at walter reed with these soldiers their family when we were do events around the country we would inevitably have private meetings with gold star families meaning the families of soldiers killed in action and so i thought it was my duty if you will to post pictures of president obama in some of these situations to show that may be president obama did more than some people realized in terms of our mood that soldiers and gold star families after president trump was photographed having a security meeting at a dinner and mara long ago.
"obama white house" Discussed on Fresh Air
"So in some ways i think you're you're more famous now you were when you with white house photographer because people have just been captivated with your instagram account in which you've basically you spent a lot of time shadowing president trump and every time we're not every time it many times when he taste something that wasn't true you'd post something you post a photo that kind of showed how president obama hand on debt or you know don't you'd want to describe one of your favorites one of your favorite examples of that well i'll start by saying that um for the most part what i've tried to do was my current instagram feed is um display public domain photos and be a somewhat subtle and respectful and the words that i right and i ethic people can interpret them oh i will say the way people interpreted everybody says that you've been trawling trump are throwing shade those are the two most often used ways of describing it i got to say that i had to when i first somebody wrote a story about throw me shade i actually hit the look that up because i've and then what was your action when you found out what it meant i kinda laughed i guess i'll say this i i do think that compared to what some people right on twitter i'm being very respectful and the way i present my instagram feed let me give our listeners an example of what we're talking about here recently after four american soldiers were killed in asia where president trump was accused of mishandling a phone call to the grieving widow of one of these men.
"obama white house" Discussed on Fresh Air
"In before the family left the mom said jakub debts too little boys named jacob has a question for you mr president and jake obama's shy voice was like my friends told me that my here is just like yours and at that moment president obama bent over and jakub touched his head present said go ahead and touch it and i snap that one picture a man have one picture of this brief moment and it kinda took on somewhat of uh you know an iconic status in here years to follow and i think what people see in that picture i guess what i see in that pictures two things one here's here's is african american kid who's touching the head of the prison the united states who looks like him and i think a lot of young african american kids probably could identify with that moment but it also says something about president obama that at the behest of this innocent question from this kid that hugh is fine bending over to let let this kid touches head there's so many great photos that you took of president obama holding hands with michelle or kissing her are hugging her and the president playing with sasha emily ah in the snow in the white house there's one where it's like sasha's hiding behind a couch i think it's in the oval office though it why the president's at his desk so it i know you'd you'd select selected these photos from over a million photos but um is that representative of.
"obama white house" Discussed on Fresh Air
"It was and i guess i'll change you probably witnessed a lot of grief i had to document too many of these instances where president obama had to play the consoler in chief an and play is probably third the wrong word to use but he uh he he would go two aurora in charleston and new town after the shootings in pug these families and look it pictures that the families head of their loved one that had been killed at the do that too many times and he had to do that too many we need to do something pat this i feel i really feel strongly about that whenever most famous shots is of president obama bending down so that a young africanamerican boy attach the president's hair would you describe who that point was and let the occasion was of this photograph like set the scene for us there is this a gentleman that worked with national security team by the name of carlton philadelphia he was a nonpolitical worker and it actually work i believe three years during the bush administration he carried over for the first six months of the obama administration as a courtesy the president would often invite departing staff to bring their family into the oval office to have a family picture taken in front of the desk so just before this picture that you described was taken at made a picture of the family standing in front of the desk.
"obama white house" Discussed on Fresh Air
"Composition framing so all these things are going through my head as this you know very difficult conversations taken place and i think i always tell people that in this moment he's not he's not reacting as the pressing ited states this see the body language in that you describe he's he's reacting as a fellow apparent an just trying to imagine that you send your six year old kid off to school we consider those safety zones and you've just learn that you're never going to see that sixyearold again because some crazy guy shot them to death so this week on sunday people were were shot people were shot to death at a church in seven springs texas and some children were shot at the church after that shooting you tweeted dear congress are the people's representatives we want guncontrol do something useful so it seems like in some ways like your role has changed from the document terry and to be able to like speak your mind about things that you feel deeply about especially have after having witness president obama learning the news about sandy hook i am now private citizen and i think i should be free to express my views i saw too many of these things happen not personally but the effect that these mass shootings have on families and we need to do something about this live i imagine imagine you went with president obama each time he what went to memorial service or to send private condolences do any of their parents are family members of people who were shot to death in these may shooting so that you were you were probably by side from us that right.
"obama white house" Discussed on Fresh Air
"So you have a photograph of president obama getting the news that twenty six people were shot at the sandy hook elementary school that twenty of them were first graders obama's leaning against the couch head down his arms crossed his eyes closed as he gets the news from his homeland security advisor john brennan put us in that moment in your shoes wet at like taking pictures at really such an offer moment and i mentioned there are times when president obama may have wanted to get news like that without being observed let me set the scene for you even just a little bit more this is four weeks after he had just been reelected to the presidency for a second term it's the minute middle of december the white house takes on this almost glorious appearance with decorations and christmas trees and there's a big christmas party every night with five hundred people on the state four that the president does a drop i add so that was the mood of the white house when this awful thing happen and we started to get the news there's a little tv right outside the oval office and we started to get the news that there had been the shooting it sandy hook elementary school and john walked in and i fall to men an was telling the president that yes in fact you know twenty six people would kick had been killed including 21st graders and i realise the significance of this moment it's very emotional but i'm also worrying about my.
"obama white house" Discussed on Fresh Air
"Yes my goal was to document what was taking place accurately capture the mood in a motion of the moment an not change what was taking place and by using what i call a small footprint meaning not using a noisy camera or not using flash moving around gingerly i'm not sure if invisibles the right word but i was certainly trying to be a piece of the woodwork so what was the ground rules that you establish for yourself and that the white house established for you the really wearing groundrules it was a brief conversation at the start where robert gibbs as his emissary would if you will uh when he called to offer me the job on behalf of the president elect i said i'm all in on this but you have to be all in i need to have access to everything and the immediate response was president elect gets it and that was that was basically our ground rules is uh access to everything so let me ask you about one of remiss most famous photos misses the photo of a president obama secretary of state hillary clinton and the national security team on may 2nd two thousand eleven watching a screen of i'm not sure awad during the mission to take out bin laden and hillary's hand is over her mouth everybody just looks incredibly tense and focused what was happening in that moment what what are they looking they were monitoring in real time the mission as it was unfolding.
"obama white house" Discussed on Fresh Air
"During president obama's eight years in the white house pete souza took nearly two million photos of him souza was obama's chief white house photographer but he actually started photographing obama after obama was elected to the us senate and souza was the washington photographer for the chicago tribune souza shadowed obama during his first year in the senate and then did a book of photos and tax called the rise of barack obama now says it has a new book collecting white house photos and telling the stories behind them it's called obama and intimate portrait the pictures range from the famous photo of obama hillary clinton and the national security team in the situation room watching the bin laden raid play out to a photo of the obamas dodd bo climbing the stairs alone into air force one since trump became president sousa has become famous for responding to thinks trump says and does by posting photos on instagram showing how obama handled similar situations pizzas a welcome to fresh air so i have to say president obama writes the intra for your buck and he says over the course of eight years in the white house he probably spent more time with you and with anybody other than his family now is that introduction hyperbole or is that really trip now i think it's really true and i think he's talking about in my presence i was there all the time i wasn't talking to him all the time but i was always in every meeting in pretty much every situation that he had as president so it's proud be pretty true we are trying to be invisible much of our time.
"obama white house" Discussed on Fresh Air
"Support for fresh air and the following message comes from rocket mortgage by quicken loans when it comes to refinancing your existing mortgage or buying a home rocket mortgage lets you understand all the details so you can be confident that you're getting the right mortgage for you goats a rocket mortgage dot com slash fresh air from whyy in philadelphia i'm teary grows with fresh air today pete suzanne the chief official white house photographer for president obama says it took nearly two million photos in eight years he had top security clearance and was with obama at most meetings and major events he took the famous photo of obama hillary clinton and the national security team in the situation room watching the bin laden raid i probably could only move twelve inches at the most because it was just so gene impact in that room since leaving the white house souza has become famous her responding to the comments and actions have president trump by posting photos on instagram of how obama handled similar situations or as it is often described trolling trump and throwing shade somebody wrote a story about throwing shade i actually hit the look that up because i've and jazz critic kevin whitehead remembers new hall richard abrams who died last week hi this is guy rise and i mini tummy and together we bring you wow in the world npr's podcast art serious grown up and were back with all new episodes use scientific adventures both and this world find wow in the world on npr one apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts owns.