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Level 2, English lesson 49. How do you listen to music ?

Learn English with Cullen's podcast by EATT magazine

04:30 min | 11 months ago

Level 2, English lesson 49. How do you listen to music ?

"What's your favorite song this week? Hello everyone welcome back to learn English English with Colin. Can you guess what the lesson is about this week. It's about your your favorite song. One is your favorite song this week. Last time time we talked about some of the different genres of music which included rock and last cicle to name just a few so this week late talk oh combat where you listen to music. Do you listen to music on the street at is your local market on your phone on the radio in the car. Ah On your by ADT chill frames on Youtube or Woah on a music APP. Such as border fine. What do you use something else to listen to music? Music like listening on a record or on a tape his state or on a CD or on a grandma third so in today's is listen. We are using some images that tell us something about music. Let's look and the first image here of the three men on day. What music might they be playing being and with the woman in Image Numb but to what music might day be replay? Why do you think this is the genre or kind of music? They are playing and in the third image. What's music might? He'd be playing and in the fourth image. What music might be playing? This is a great way I to make a guess as we can't hear the music okay. So that's it for today's lesson lease he's click on the link in this lesson if you can see the video and the second lane. Hey if you can see the full to answer the questions and spatial shoutout to all about Raines listening in from New Jersey New York San Francisco Oakland San Jose Washington. DC Virginia Breath Bell. Jim Italy United Kingdom Turkey island. Canada right have you you all here with us. Have a great day and please. Don't forget to search for learn English with Cullen to find more or less and so you can answer the questions in this listen and move on to the Knicks lesson here act. Eight MAG DOT COM.

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Level 3, lesson 49. Last time we talked about some of the different genres of music

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03:41 min | 11 months ago

Level 3, lesson 49. Last time we talked about some of the different genres of music

"What's your favorite song this week. Hello everyone welcome back to learn English with color. Can you guess what the lesson is about this week. It's about your favorite song. What is your your favorite song this week. Last time we talked about some of the different genres of music which included rock hop and classical the name. Just a few so this week. Let's talk about where you listen to music. Do you listen to music on the street at your local market on your phone on the radio in the car on your bite. mm-hmm at your friends on Youtube or on a music at such spotify. What do you use it something else to listen to music like listening on a record or on a tape tape cassette on a CD or on a gramophone. So in today's listen. Listen we go using some images that tell us something about music. Let's look at the first image here. Yeah of the three men on stage. What music might they be playing and with the woman in image image number two what music my Davy play and. Why do you think this is the genre all kinds of music dia planned and in Third Mitch. What music might he be playing and in the fourth image. What music might be playing. This is a great way to make hid guests as we can't hear the music okay. So that's it for today's listen. Please click on the first link in this lesson. Listen if you can't see the video and the second link if you can't see the form to answer the questions Christian special shout out to all of our brains listening in from New Jersey New York San Francisco Oakland San Jose Washington DC Virginia California Belgium Italy United Kingdom Turkey Island and Canada. Great to have you all here with us. Have a great day and please. Don't forget to search for learn English with Colin defined more lessons. So you can answer the questions in this lesson and move on to the Knicks lesson here at eight MAG DOT COM.

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Level 4, lesson 49. No words in this music video lesson test your memory

Learn English with Cullen's podcast by EATT magazine

03:41 min | 11 months ago

Level 4, lesson 49. No words in this music video lesson test your memory

"What's your favorite song this way. Hello everyone welcome back to learn English with color. Can you guess what the lesson is about this week. It's about your favorite song. One is your your favorite song this week. Last time we talked about some of the different genres of music which included rock pop and classical to name. Just a few so this week. Let's talk about where you'll listen to music. Do you listen to music on the street at your local arket on your third on the radio in the car on your Bite mm-hmm screens on Youtube or on a music at such as spotter. Fine do you use it something else to listen to music light listening on a record on a take take on a CD or on a GRANDPA. Though in today's listen we go using some images that tell us something about music. Let's look at the first image. Yeah onstage what music my they play and with the woman in image image number two. What Music Mike Dave plane and why do you think this is the genre the kind of music and in this third enrich what Music Mike. He'd be playing and in the fall image. What's music playing. This is a great way to make kid gets is. We can't hear the music okay. So that's it for today's listen. Please click on the first link in this. Listen listen if you can't see the video and the second link it you can't see the goal to answer the question this show and especially shout out to all about listening in from New Jersey New York San MM Francisco Oakland San Jose Washington. DC The JINYA California Belgium Italy United Kingdom Island and Canada. Great to have you all here with us. Have a great day and and cleese. Don't forget to search or learning English with Colin defined more or less than you. So you can doc answered questions in this lesson and move on to the Knicks lesson here. AIDS MAG DOT com.

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Lesson 49, Level 1 slow speaking. What's your favorite song this week?

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05:12 min | 11 months ago

Lesson 49, Level 1 slow speaking. What's your favorite song this week?

"What's your favorite song? This way everyone. Welcome back to learn English with Cowan. Can you guess what the lesson is about this week. It's about your favorite song. One is your favorite film film this week last time we talked about some of the different genres of music which included rob pop and classical to name just a few so this week. Lates talk about where you listen to music. Do you listen to music on the street at your local market on your fun on the radio in the car on your by chill frames on Youtube or on a music at such as spotify or do judy us something else to listen to music like listening on a record on tape kiss saved on a CD or honored grandma third so in today's lesson we using Some images that. Tell US something about music. Let's look at the first image. Here of the three men on stay Ch- what music might they be playing trying and with the woman in image number two. What Music Bake my day? Be Playing and why do you think this is the genre or kind ndip music they are playing and in third image. What music might he'd be playing and in the fourth illitch what's Music Zik? Might she play. This is a great way to make guest as we can't hear the music okay. So that's it for today. Listen please click on the first link in this lesson if you can't see the video and this can late so if you can see the full to answer the questions and spatial shoutout to all all about friends listening in from New Jersey. You All SAN FOR CISCO Oakland San Jose Washington DC. Virginia Virginia Bell. Jim United Kingdom keyed. Eh I land and Canada Lake Chad. You all here with us have a great night day and please. Don't forget to search for learn English with colored defined moral lessons so you can answer the questions in this lesson and move on to the next lesson here at eight MAG DOT COM.

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Old Navy's new outfit

Marketplace Morning Report with David Brancaccio

08:13 min | 1 year ago

Old Navy's new outfit

"This. Marketplace podcast is brought to you by the university of Florida Warrington college of business transform your future with an MBA from one of America's top ten universities. Learn more at Warrington dot ufl dot EDU slash MBA. Gap is setting old navy free in New York. I'm Tracey Samuelson in for David Brancaccio gap said last night, it's spinning off its successful budget brand old navy into a separate public company. Marketplace's we're not a sago is here to chat about what's behind the split. We're not up. Why? This move old navy is doing very well. The brand alone brought in eight billion dollars last year. That's nearly half of gap. Ings overall sales. Oh, navy's been really good at competing in this era of cheap fashion. The brands price points are low. It's been able to bring in new customers. But the gaps been struggling it's used to be considered a step up from old navy. It used to be a go to for classic jeans business, casual even trust is with pockets. But now it has tough competition from brands like Zara in H Inam. So old navy is going to become its own company and gap will become part of a new company, which will include banana Republic and athletic. But if old navy's doing, well and gap is you know. Not or struggling why make them to supper companies. You're not best an interesting question. It basically says that the split is about giving both brands the flexibility they need gaping believes it will help navy become even more focused on competing with stores like Ross TJ Maxx, the split could also give the gap brand the makeover. It needs to stay afloat and gap is going to close some stores as part of this. Yes. Gap Inc will be closing about two hundred gap stores over the next two years. The company's estimating it alludes about six hundred million dollars in sales from these closures. But it says it wants to focus on a smaller number of stores. Marketplace's we're not a sago thinks. And now, let's do the numbers. Live in London is up half a percent. Dow espionage act features are up in the five six seven tenths percent range for the Dow future up one hundred seventy two points ten year. Treasury yield is up at two point seven two percents late tonight or really very early tomorrow morning. Yuan Musk's SpaceX will launch a rocket from the Kennedy Space Center in Florida, not just any rocket. This is the first time a commercial rather than government spacecraft designed for humans will launch to the international space station, there won't be people onboard not yet. But this is a critical test as marketplace's Jack Stewart reports if all goes, according to plan SpaceX could be authorized to carry astronauts later this year the lost shuttle Atlantis touchdown Kennedy Space Center in July twenty eleven the space shuttle pulls into port for the last time. It's voyage that an end Messer awarded contracts to Boeing and SpaceX to ferry astronauts to the space station instead. Spacex designed a reusable capsule. Cold dragon first fa Kogyo. But with big plans in mind as Elon Musk said when he let me climb into the prototype in two thousand and nine for the BBC, we're designed the dragon spacecraft to carry people we've designed to meet all of the NASA, human rating standards and we've been done things like put windows in. And he proudly showed off his creation by hammering his fist into it. This is a very very strong structure. I mean. Really not something you have to worry about you will survive ten years later, and that is being put to the test. With this latest launch accrue version of dragon will be carrying a high tech dummy in a space suit. If all goes well human flights could come by July and Boeing isn't far behind so Nasr's bass on retiring, it's expensive shuttle program is paying off says Chris quilty space industry analyst commercial launch of crew should be significantly cheaper and much more reliable. He says NASA will have to pay these commercial operators around twenty to forty million dollars per seat to launch an astronaut for comparison. It's only option since the shuttle was retired has been to pay the Russian space agency up to eighty five million for that the commercial sector saw markets that needed to be serviced. And are finding ways to do that Eric's. Donna is president of the commercial space flight. Ration- private space missions unlimited to the US. A SpaceX rocket launched an unmanned private Israeli spacecraft on a mission to the moon last week. And it's one of just many with plans from Luna renaissance. I'm Jack Stewart for marketplace. In other Elon Musk related news. Jags also been covering Tesla's announcement yesterday that it's thirty five thousand dollar model. Three electric car is finally available to order also to save money. The company is closing its physical stores and switching to online sales. A bit more on that in our podcast feed. If you miss it on air. This. Marketplace podcast is brought to you by med Klein, if painful heartburn or acid reflex keeps you up at night. Try met Klein met Klein is a comfortable acid reflux pillow system for your bed. That keeps you in the best sleeping position for natural relief with their one hundred day relief guarantee, you have nothing to lose the system ships free with a special offer and comes complete with a full set of pillowcases for more information. Visit good night heartburn dot com or call eight hundred six one zero one six zero seven enter the code morning at checkout for fast, free shipping. Just like small children or gremlins Southwest Airlines has been restricted from access to water namely overseas flights, but the airline announced this week. It's received long-sought federal prove to begin operating extended range flights. Marketplace's Ben Bradford reports. The airlines goal is an understandable one to get to Hawaii. It's southwest number one priority. We're going to why we're going. He needs to be the focus CEO. Gary Kelly said on an earnings call last month half of its flight growth. This year will come from Hawaiian routes. It makes sense Hawaii's a hugely popular tourist destination. Most accessible from the west coast where southwest is strongest but aviation advisor Bryson Monteleone says it's also required a major investment, they're flying now with this new route over the ocean versus where they were flying before which was overland planes must be able to travel long distances on a single engine since there's nowhere to land in an emergency southwest will fly out of Sacramento, Oakland, San Jose, and San Diego Mantell says the small airports help keep fares low anytime the aircraft is flying throughout the day. They're earning more money versus when you fly into large operational hub like San Francisco or LAX, the aircraft's on the ground more. Other airlines have already dropped west coast fares to Hawaii likely anticipating Southwest's arrival, which could start this month. I'm Ben Brad for for marketplace. And finally, New York is saying baby come back to Amazon there's a full page ad in the New York Times today from a bunch of local businesses and union leaders urging Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos to reconsider its scuttled plans for an office in New York it promises. Governor Cuomo will take personal responsibility for state approvals and says that bruising public debate after Amazon selection of New York consider it part of the city's charm. I'm Tracey Samuelson with the marketplace morning report. From APM American public media. This marketplace podcast is brought to you by brother investment tank printers. It's happened to all of us right before an important presentation that printer runs out of ink brother investment tank printers, help put a stop to this. And can literally change the way you Inc. 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Proposition 21: Rent Control

Bay Curious

12:33 min | 2 weeks ago

Proposition 21: Rent Control

"From Cutie. Welcomed Monday people I hope you had a great weekend maybe got a chance to catch up on the seven bay curious prop fest episodes that are already live. Today we're onto proposition twenty one I'm Olivia Allen Price. Ads Proposition twenty, one, the rent control prop are everywhere. You've probably heard some of them did homelessness get so bad. Keep families in their homes built. Yes. In Prague twenty-one, this California is in a deep hole with a shortage of affordable housing prop twenty-one digs in even deeper hole. Note Noise Zolia. Your rent control has become a perennial issue in California elections. But how is this year's law different from others that we've seen? That's what we're here to figure out stick around. Support for bakeries comes from Sierra Nevada, brewing company no matter how people enjoy the outdoors Sierra Nevada wants to help make sure their voices are heard. Sierra. Nevada supports protect our winters and it's make your plan to vote campaign learn more at Sierra Nevada dot com. Like so many of the propositions on our ballot this year proposition twenty, one on rent control proposes changing an existing law. In this case, it's called the cost to Hawkins Rental Housing Act, and before we can talk about prop twenty one, you really need to know how it works. Reporter plot check explains in California rent control limits how much a landlord can raise rent year after year and right now, only fifteen cities in the state have some form of rent control. It's really the bigger cities those so San. Francisco Oakland San Jose. This is Matt Levin, a data reporter for CAL, matters and Co host of the housing podcast Gimme shelter, and he says even in those cities, not every home is under rent control. That's because of this nineteen ninety five law that was trying to encourage building by limiting rent control. It's called the Cost Hawkins Rental Housing Act passed by one vote that sheeps rent control policy across California. It's a huge deal that most people know very little about an limits rent control in two big ways. I Cost Hawkins made it. So an attendant moves out of rent controlled apartment the landlord can raise rent to whatever they want. This is called vacancy decontrol nicey. All departments all the time, their total pieces of crap and they're. They're they're charging like. Brazilian dollars right. But once you get into that apartment. They're limited in how much more they can raise it every time a person moves out, they can reset it Kosta Hawkins also made it. So you cannot have rent control on most single family homes or condos meaning most of the suburbs can't be rent controlled and you can't have rent control on new buildings. So the law created a cutoff date do you can't impose rent control on properties that were built after? Nineteen, ninety five as for the cities that already had rent control cost to Hawkins. Froze their cut off dates where they stood in Oakland the cutoff is in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, three, Berkeley is one, thousand, nine, hundred eighty while in San, Jose and San. Francisco nothing built after Nineteen seventy-nine can have rent control. So anything new in Nice looking in San Francisco is not going to have rent control on it. Proposition twenty one, what we're voting on this year would overturn that cost a Hawkins Housing Act and shift future decisions about rent control from the state to local governments. Now, the economics of rent control who it works for and who it works against are debated and we don't have time to get into all of that on today's show. We do have an episode from a few years ago. That does look closer at issue we'll put a link in our show notes. So if you find yourself wondering, go give that a listen. Okay back to proposition twenty one cake you reporter Joe. Fitzgerald Rodriguez is here to help us untangle it. All welcome Joe. So give us the top line for proper twenty one. What does it do? Well, it's very easy to misunderstand. The whole premise in does not impose new rent control laws. But what prop Tony One does do is allow these to pass their own rent control laws. So they can make their own ten protections on more recently built buildings with some exceptions and the details on this one really matter because we did see a similar. Proposition. Two years ago which California voters turned down now, the same tenants rights groups are back, but they've made some changes this time around what are the specifics here we'll probably one really does three things. I would overturn the Statewide Cost Hawkins Law allow lawmakers to make decisions about whether or not to have rent control getting rid of Casa Hawkins also means doing away with vacancy decontrol water. I mean, that's a wonky were decontrol. Basically means if a tenant leaves rent controlled unit, the landlord could no longer crank up the rent to above market levels they'd be able to raise the rent fifteen percent over the first three years. So under prop twenty one, let's say a tenant moves out and they were paying a thousand dollars in rent wouldn't that be a dream? And then a new tenant moves in the landlord could only raise the rent by fifteen percent, which would be one, thousand, one, hundred and fifty dollars and no higher, right right good back of the Napkin map. Thanks and what about the third thing prop twenty one would do It also has provision that says after new building goes up, the developer can charge whatever they want for the first fifteen years. That's so they can make their money back after fifteen years. The city has rang control that building would then be subject to the local ring control laws. This was added by the authors of the prop twenty one to address criticism that more rang control might deter developers from building more housing, and that's a common critique of rent control as General that. Basically they cost less development and that could actually drive market rate rents in the city up. Yeah. It's a very old saw oft repeated. Between one would do is it makes an exception for small landlords who out one or two single family homes there the little guy. So this would not apply to them. However, if an individual owns a multi unit building prop Tony One would still apply to their property. Now. Here's a bit of a wrinkle on prop twenty one a state law just went into effect that caps rent increases statewide in many cases even cities that are not currently covered by local Rent Control Law Joe tells about that law and how it's different from prop twenty-one. Well, it seems you're talking about California attendant protection. act. Passed in twenty nineteen. Are you a renter in California? Your rights may have grown under a new law that tenant protect for buildings in locales that are not already under rent control. Now, just to be clear, it does not supersede existing rent control. But if you aren't protected, it would cap the amount of rent that your landlord could raise by five percent. It also says that landlords have to have just cause to evict someone and just cause is pretty much how it sounds like a right a right 'cause right if you didn't pay your rent if you were violent if there's a health issue that you've created inside your apartment. Those are all just causes that can lead to your vision. I will add as a quick addendum. There are other ten protections for the pandemic that recently passed out of the state that prevents landlords from kicking out if you lost your job due to the pandemic and you swear to it under penalty of perjury but essentially, this being teens, the landlord's ability to evict you a for some just causes. And it also sunsets in twenty thirty but that's actually part of the critique. The prop twenty one proponents are like well, Hey, guys this sunsets in two, thousand, thirty. That's way too. Soon, we have a pandemic we have a potential pandemic fuelled recession. We don't know how long it will last. We don't know how long the economic effects will last and they maintain a lot of these protections while the. Sound. Good were meant to undercut prop twenty one and we're in fact calculated political methods of doing just that. Okay. Let's turn our attention back to prop twenty one who is supporting it and what are their arguments? Yeah. So Michael Weinstein the president of the AIDS Healthcare Foundation is a perennial supporter of trying to repeal Casa Hawkins and put this on the ballot. It may seem a little far afield. From AIDS help to be spending on housing and rent laws. But the Organization makes the argument that housing is healthcare and that's an opinion shared widely in the homelessness community where many folks dying of ailments on the streets other supporters include former presidential runner, Bernie Sanders, the Democratic Party, and tenants rights, groups broadly, they argue that this is an issue of local control that there are lots of different kinds. Of Communities in California with lots of different needs and local lawmakers should be able to make policies that fit their locale. They also say, Hi rents are pushing people out of California and increasingly mental properties are owned by big companies who are making a killing while making the affordability problems worse. This is especially pronounced during the pandemic where Latin next and black households are specially hurt by job losses dacoven. Nineteen and they say that they listen to voter concerns that rent control could possibly discourage developers from building more housing, which is why they have that fifteen year provisions that we talked about earlier. Let's hear about the opposition well, notably a pretty big opposition governor, Gavin newsom but also construction groups, business groups, landlord groups they say the law that went into effect earlier this year covers a lot of the. Same ground as prop twenty one and they say that rent control is not the ultimate answer to California's housing problem. They say a lack of housing as the problem. So we should not be passing a law that could discourage development of that needed housing. Now, they don't think the fifteen year window of market rate rent enough to mitigate the potential downsides of this proposition of potentially discouraging development and finally. They argue this could hit seniors particularly hard many people live off rental income in their old age, and this could sap their wallets when they have no other source of income. Let's move on to the campaign finance here. So how is financing looking on twenty one? Yeah. Well, the opposition is far outspending yes. On prop twenty one that's forty, two, million dollars on the No side. That's developers right? It's. Basically. Twenty four million dollars on the aside I mean it doesn't take rocket scientist to see who would be against it. Right. As you're saying, it's property management firms as developers, the Apartment Association of Los Angeles, which represents landlords basically anyone who stands to profit from having higher rents is putting money in now to make sure they can keep them. All Right Katie reporter Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez. Thank you so much. You. Let's recap that. Shall We vote? Yes. On proposition twenty one means you want cities to have the power to pass or. Local rent control. On, almost all rental housing as long as it's at least fifteen years old a no vote means you want state limits on rent control to stay in place. Bay Curious is produced by Katrina Schwarz Rob. Speight. Katie. mcmurray. And Me Olivia Allen Price. But we could not do it without the help of the entire newsroom. Check out more election coverage at. Qa d dot Org slash elections. Tomorrow we take on proposition twenty two, the most expensive proposition in California history. Bay. Curious is made in San Francisco at member supported K. Q. E. D. I'll. See You tomorrow.

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Episode 4: The Fast Train

Derailed

21:41 min | 1 year ago

Episode 4: The Fast Train

"Support for derailed comes from Sun Badger solar offering custom designed solar installations across Wisconsin as well as help navigating solar incentive programs James Son Badger dot com slash derailed. And this is bridget. If you're just starting this series stop and go back to episode one. The story will make much more sense that way. So if you listen to the last episode of derailed you we know where we left off Scott Walker wins the election. He holds firm on rejecting federal stimulus. Money for a train and the federal government takes the money back back in two thousand ten when it all becomes official governor elect Scott Walker tells reporters that Wisconsin has general. I think the fact that we don't another trade between Milwaukee and Madison and there's no other way the federal government or anywhere else can force. It's a victory that same day. Madison Mayor Dave Chess Luggage holds a press conference of his own he. He is crushed. He says Walker boxed himself in on this issue and now Wisconsin will pay the price the next question to be asking. The governor elect is when he can start writing checks back to the federal government. Much remember Wisconsin was going to get eight hundred ten million dollars from the federal government to build a passenger rail line between Wean Madison and Milwaukee. Now the Obama Administration makes clear. It's taking back all but two million of that Wisconsin's outgoing governor at the time. Democrat Jim Doyle. Royal says he's disappointed but at least people will see the full picture now this money. That's not coming to Wisconsin. It's going to rail projects in other states. I I think everybody understands that. It's been a total fiction that has been put forward overtime that somehow this money could go for something else in the State of Wisconsin. If it's not going to be the It's not going to be high speed rail here. It's going to be high speed rail and some other states so that simple. That would happen almost immediately the day the US Department of Transportation Takes Back Wisconsin's money it spells out where it will go New York Illinois in Washington. We'll all we'll get pieces of it and the biggest chunk go to California so we follow the money. I went to California yet to see the high speed rail. Construction first hand and while Wisconsin and California are vastly different projects. I'll tell you what I saw from. Wisconsin public radio. I'm bridget Bowden Shawn Johnson. This is derailed. This past July I spent a morning at E. J. D. Young's dairy in Hanford California over five thousand cows. Wow Times a day three times a day EH. Young farms about thirty five hundred acres. We've gotten its track. And he drove me around. This will be called. The fresh pins so ooh girls. They have calved within the last twenty days he showed me his field of solar panels and the perfectly manicured rectangle of Lon where his house sits. He showed me where his main waterline runs and where he's drilling a new well. Eventually we came to a big dirt. Path carving right through a field that he said is where the high-speed train will eventually ran right through his farm We need to start with a little history. Because this project predates Wisconsin's big train debate California had a referendum on the ballot. Back in two thousand is an eight. It passed the same night. Barack Obama was elected president. It was called proposition. One A and it authorized nine billion dollars in bonding for a high speed rail line to Connect San Francisco to Los Angeles in less than three hours. Nine billion. That's a lot. It's more than all the high speed rail funding in the whole stimulus package. Then in two thousand ten California got some of that stimulus funding more than two billion dollars. But that didn't mean they'd have new trains running right away because the California project is a lot different than Wisconsin's would've been remember Wisconsin's rail project was what they called Shovel Ready. The trains would have travelled along an existing rail corridor although they would have needed upgrades there were already tracks for most of the way in California. They're basically starting from from scratch for miles and miles. There's nothing there no tracks no right of way and that's really challenging. When they started construction they hadn't didn't actually acquired all of the land they needed yet and they're still not done? It's delayed the project and driven the cost way up like Wisconsin. Send California's rail project has been saga. That's been passed from governor to governor. It was once championed by Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger I believe very strongly. We should have highs Israel all over the state of California and all over the United States. Then Democrat Jerry Brown carry the torch I make no bones about it. I like trains. I the high speed trains even better now. Another governor Democrat Gavin. NEWSOM is running the show. newsome had been Jerry. Brown's Lieutenant Governor and before or that mayor of San Francisco and he supports the rail line but his position is a little more complicated because what newsom inherited was a rail project that was extremely cleanly over budget and behind schedule. He address it almost immediately after he took office in his first ever state of the state address in what he said caught people by surprise in changed the trajectory of the California Rail Project. Let's be real current project as planned would cost cost too much and respect take too long. There's been too little oversight and not enough transparence right now. There's simply this train was originally originally supposed to go all the way from San Francisco to Los Angeles about four hundred miles but newsom said at least for now. The state can't do that. ooh however we do have the capacity to complete a high speed rail link between her said and Bakersfield All right bridget. You went to California and I didn't so I gotTA stop here from it because I have some questions. Here's here's the thing. I did not grasp the significance of what Newsom said the first time I heard it and I think it's because I really don't know California geography. Okay what do you want to know. We'll start with where this train was originally supposed to go. So California's population is concentrated in two main areas in the North Bay-area. That's San Francisco Oakland San Jose in the south. You've got the coast Los Angeles San Diego. The plan from the start was to connect these two huge areas but the state is a lot bigger than just the area right and the area you need to know about for. This story is called the Central Valley the Central Valley. Okay okay tell me about that. So the Central Valley is a huge area in the middle of the state that stretches from northern California all the way to southern California. Then you showed me what. It looks like a topographic topographic map of California and I say that helped me pictured better. Is this very long flat. Green region of California perfect for growing almonds walnuts. Let's and fruit actually a lot of food that Americans eat comes from the Central Valley in when you went to California and visit. EJ's farm this is where you were in the Central Valley. So when the governor of California says in his State of the state address that they can build the high-speed rail link between her said and Bakersfield. EJ's farm is pretty much right in between those two cities but this farm in the Central Valley is actually a long way from Los Angeles and San Francisco right so California's is basically building the middle of this train right. And what about connecting the train to San Francisco in the north in Los Angeles in the South Governor. New Sam is basically saying we'll figure ought later. Okay I think I'm caught up now. Okay you good yells get back to the farm okay back to the farm. EJ young runs the place and dairy Ari. Farming runs in his blood. Family's been in business since the fifties when the immigration from Holland They came to southern California. EJ remembers when the high speed rail proposal was on the ballot but never imagined that it would directly affect him. Eventually he got a letter in the mail. Basically the your property is going to be impacted. Had A you know a rough map on there and our parcel numbers and basically coming through our yard right through his yard in fact the future train will go through the epicenter epicenter of his farming operation. His main water and power lines will need to move. The train will come zooming through. What is now his driveway? A two hundred miles an hour and chest barely missed the corner of his house. I tell my wife the good news is we don't have to move and we don't have but she will want to. She will want we. Can we can handle a little bit of dirt moving But what if there ever run into train that close to her house where we went out the rail line will carve diagonal line through his arm so so so it basically cuts off three quarters of my ranch from dairy when Ej found out where the train would go he he realized it would keep them from getting from one side of his farm to the other without driving all the way around on the main road. EJ challenge this anyone so the rail authority ready agreed to build Ej an underpass but the underpass wouldn't be quite wide enough piece of equipment that will fit through that piece of equipment. A planter a fifty five thousand dollar planter but the rail authority had a solution to buy a planter for the other side. You start to see how costs can add up when you're building a railroad and how difficult it is to start from scratch. They they pick despite spot because all it is is a couple of farm houses. You know couple dumb farmers and you know it's one property owner per mile or half mile right should be easy easy. No problem. Well this is taking a heck of a long time to get this far right. So by the time you get Bay Area or southern California where you got one hundred property owners per mile trying to negotiate all that longtime EJ Too young isn't the only one who has doubts about this project. Some people think it's time to throw in the towel. But Governor Gavin newsom disagrees abandoning the high speed rail entirely means we will have wasted billions and billions of dollars with nothing but broken promises harshly. Bill old commitments and lawsuits to show for it. And with all due respect I have no interest in sending back three and a half billion dollars. Federal funding funding that was allocated to this project to president. Donald Trump. A little context here this comment from Gavin newsom. Right here turned out to be significant because up until then. Donald trump wasn't really dug in on the train issue. In fact as a candidate for president he'd talk about the need to rebuild the nation's infrastructure including its railroads. He said the same thing in his inaugural address but when Gavin newsom called trump out trump hit back he took to twitter. What are the very next day to say? He wanted the federal government's money back and months later he followed through he took back nearly a billion dollars and in a speech. Each to the National Association of Realtors Trump belittled the tree so unfettered going from San Francisco to Los Angeles beautiful right in the middle of all of that out. They cut all and now you go from this tiny little town. Do another tiny little town forbid and they think they can do it for just billions of dollars more than the original projection. These people are crazy and in California Cornea Central Valley. This is huge for people like EJ because their land has already been taken to make way for the train and they WANNA get paid for what they've lost. Not every time trump tweets about it and veterans takeaway more federal money and then I get a little more nervous you know when we bought this property property. He imagined he'd grow old there but until the future of this train gets resolved. He's not sure what to do. Uncertainties by the most frustrating part this is one farmers perspective. But there's more to the central valley than farms in fact. There's a city twice. Nice the size of Madison right in the middle of it. Fresno we'll head there. After the break support for derailed comes from Sun Badger solar committed to installing residential or commercial solar arrays within ninety days son Badger. They're also offers help. NAVIGATING STATE SOLAR PROGRAMS SON BADGER DOT com slash derailed Okay Bridget took pretty good notes during our California geography lesson. But I don't remember you mentioning Fresno where is it so you remember the Central Valley. Yeah the big flat green place. In the middle of California that goes all the fruits and vegetables Yep Fresno is right in the middle of the Central Valley so as Fresno like a small town no no not at all. It's actually the fifth largest city in California by population. So it's a little smaller than Milwaukee but a lot bigger than Madison okay. So why did you go there because this is where a lot of the construction for the high speed rail line is happening. And what's that look like. The construction says you drive into Fresno go through a lot of farmland for miles and miles. It's flat highway with almond or walnut groves on either side of you but as you get closer to the city you start to see these huge concrete structures rising out of the farm fields. And that's it. That is the rail construction. What are they the huge concrete structures beginnings of bridges overpasses is under passes the pieces that will eventually be put together to form this rail line? But they're not connected now. No sort of people think about that you know as I talked to people in Fresno about the construction I heard the same thing over and over again which was oh. The high speed rail project is that still happening learning is it. I mean the answer to that question depends on who you ask. The literal answer is yes. It's being funded funded. Construction is currently happening. Here's Tony to Noko a public information officer with the California High Speed Rail Authority if you're from the area and you're passing by a lot of our structures. It's really hard to miss. I'm there has been some reports in the news of funding things like that but as far as construction the valley nothing has changed. We're still moving forward. So and she felt. There's a huge benefit to taking the rail line through this area. She says it wasn't just meant to be a fast connection between San Francisco. La It was always meant to connect the Central Valley to the state's biggest cities to make Fresno and other places bedroom communities the bay area where Housing Tight Fresno Hanford Madera Kings County. All of these places In order for people to actually work live out in in the bay area go to school. There commute back things like that. So we're seeing those benefits but in Fresno the construction is taking a long time. They broke. Oh ground in two thousand fifteen and since then a lot of roads have been closed. We've had to close off to Larry Mona Street Kern street. We spent her open for traffic for pedestrian for businesses and Fresno's Chinatown neighborhood. That has meant trouble. Chinatown is right across the railroad tracks from downtown Fresno and downtown busy. There's a baseball stadium. high-rises restaurants it used to be that. You could walk from Chinatown into downtown. But since construction started it's been cut off by offense and road closures. The sidewalk next to the fence is covered with trash and broken glass to be clear. The Chinatown neighborhood has been in decline line for decades but rail construction has hit them hard. Most of the businesses have closed. One of the only restaurants left in Chinatown is Kuka's Mexican restaurant on Jeff St Margaret's he has worked here for decades. Her grandmother started the restaurant Margaret inherited. And now her daughter runs it. So let's see can food food. It's authentic Mexican food so we're open for breakfast and lunch because of how Chinatown has gotten here in the evening. We don't open for dinner. No more in Chinatown. What do you mean how China has gotten? It's gotten like a ghost town. There's nothing that goes on here. After most of the restaurants that are open they all close by three o'clock. So there's nothing really opened here when Margaret. I heard about the high speed rail plan which she calls the fast train. She thought it might be good for the neighborhood. At first I thought it was going to help because the substation where they would be getting on and off was going to be right here on right down the corner so I thought oh well that's going to help because while they're waiting for their train they might come in over this way but Nothing's coming and all we got as close streets and nothing in the future to say well and two years three years. We're going to have thestreet as a right now. Everything is stopped. So do you think faster unionists ever coming. No it is. I do not see a faster. Never coming especially right here in the Chinatown area. I don't see a festering coming you. A lot of people I talked to Chinatown have given up hope on the fast train. They'd rather see the government. Spend the money on other do things beautifying the streets services for homeless people Jan Manami who works for the Chinatown Fresno Foundation says her community definitely needs all of that but she knows they can't get it from this pot of money. The money that's committed to high speed rail is state money and some of it's federal all money and it is committed to high speed rail. If it's not spent on high speed rail it's not going to be in Chinatown. One of the main goals roles of Jan.. Miami's foundation is to support the high speed rail line. They think it could save chinatown but even she is cautiously optimistic. She knows there's a chance that the train will never come so we need to look at Chinatown separate from high speed. We grow and be happy if it builds but if it doesn't we're still on our path to developing Chinatown into a more vibrant neighborhood we started this episode with a quote from Scott Walker in two thousand and ten from the day. Wisconsin officially gave its rail money back and on that day Walker was celebrating and in two thousand Nineteen Scott Walker is still taking a victory lap. He wrote an OP. Ed this year pointing to the project in California in Ja as proof that his decision to stop Wisconsin's train was the right call. But it's hard to compare California and Wisconsin because we're not psychic we I can't say exactly how Wisconsin's rail line would have gone because it never happened. Here's what we can say Wisconsin's rail line would have been a different kind of project. It would have been much much shorter and it would have run along existing rail corridor so the land purchases that have slowed California's plan. There would have been less of that concert. It's not a perfect comparison orrason but we went to California because that's where Wisconsin's money went what their takeaway that no matter. What state you live in change is hard on the next derailed? We follow another pretty important. Part of Wisconsin's high-speed rail line. That never happened. We've search for the trains. The actual trains derailed is reported and produced by me bridget. Bowden and Shawn Johnson. We'll produced by Hanna. Hanes and Brad Colbert edited by Noah of Shinsegi music by Carl Christensen additional support. From Adam Friedrich by Jenny Peak Ashley. Thanks to Alex Hall. You can subscribe to rail than Apple. podcast Google play and other podcasts guests apps if you like the show make sure and gives a good rating. It'll help more people find us. 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How Trump's Impeachment Could Help ... Julian Castro?

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How Trump's Impeachment Could Help ... Julian Castro?

"I'm Peter Hart. Law Your concierge for culture in the bay area the big event is a podcast so local and fun and random that we've interviewed Jerry Rice and Jello Biafra affreux and recorded two episodes paying tribute to Burritos download the big event today. Welcome to who it's all political the San Francisco Chronicle's political podcast. I'm Joe Gear fully the chronicle senior political writer and today the podcast. We have another presidential candidate of eight. Julio Castro returns to the podcast and he talks about how he is thinking about getting out of the race. What would make him get out of the race. You also talks about how impeachment impeachment president trump will reshape the presidential race and he also talks about his visit to a homeless camp in Oakland when he was here in the bay area this week and how it's like nothing he's ever seen in. This is the guy who used to be the secretary of Housing and he seated all Leon Liane Castro next on. It's all political hi I'm Greg Thomas Travel Editor at the San Francisco Chronicle and host of the wild West podcast. If you're getting into the outdoors and exploring California Wild West is a great listen tune into here exclusive interviews with the world's top adventure athletes like rock climber climber. Alex handled who came onto talk through his incredible free Solo Climbing El Capitan in Yosemite big part of the film is like the whole love story with my girlfriend and all that but I hadn't even met her when we started listen. It's an wherever you get your podcasts wild west Secretary Castro welcome back to it's all political. This is your third appearance. It's glad to be tied with a regular regular office. Does Not have that happen. I'm from Texas. At least Adam is around here. In California uh-huh we're sitting in the reduce in San Francisco in the in a like a hallway in the in the Marker Hotel. Were here in downtown. San Francisco so you've been in California for a West Coast Swing Let's talk about impeachment. Let's talk with extra. It's on everyone's mind you were. Oh Gee on impeachment. You were impeachment. I think the first if not one of the first right yeah just right after the mole report came out and it listed those ten different instances of obstruction of justice okay so but as we speak today half of independent voters don't think there should be an independent or should be an impeachment inquiry and other police all the other day. Jason Forty four percent of Americans have no idea what the hell Ukraine all about. You won't be President WanNA communicator you need to how do you sell the need from people in a very simple concise way like a sentence or two your bumper sticker pitch on impeachment. Would it be I would be a trump abused his power our to go after political opponent and he did that by dangling military aid to Ukraine and asking for a favor if they did his political dirty work against Joe Biden he would give them military aid if not the implication was that he wouldn't to this is a classic abuse of power scenario scenario and what we heard today was also. There's a cover up so there's there's a crime. There's a cover up here. and I believe that more and more people are gonNA come to see then not only should there be an impeachment inquiry but the president should be impeached because of how flagrantly he's abused his power what the trump administration can't hide anymore. are the facts and the facts come out. It's just GonNa get worse and worse and worse. I think we've already seen that in the last forty eight hours. What does the the existence allegedly from whistleblowers one of you of a sort of a secret repository for conversations stationed at the president's had. What does that ramp things up as at present at intrigue? What was that. What does that do? I mean I'm thinking you know Watergate tapes at this point from what we know now the reporting is that it's likely that the whistle blower himself was a CIA agent that was working in the White House for for for a certain amount of time and was told by colleagues among other things that the White House at scrambled. They panicked to to to put the summary in the transcript of this call into this secret database. There's more reporting that they may have been doing this with with other calls ever since two thousand seventeen eighteen if that's the case. It makes you wonder What else is there in these calls with foreign leaders. Did he talk about his business. Properties or other business is interested. He has in these foreign countries because he does have some business overseas. Did he talk about other. Quid pro quo in terms of political things that he wanted done on that were improper. They need to get those transcripts redact them for anything that is truly sensitive and relates national security and then deliver that to Congress the the Let's talk about the president. Trump is trying to deflect this by throwing the Biden's into the mix. He has said he said without any sort of corroboration that Joe Biden in the Sun Hunter Biden have engaged in a quote quid pro quo and the Ukraine. He has not explained that. There's been no other reporting that that aside did do you have any concerns about about hunter. Biden's dealings business dealings Ukraine. Do you have any concerns about Joe Biden's influence there and should this be fair game. I don't have any concerns I mean. I know Joe Biden. I know that he's an honest man. He's an honorable man. His family's honorable and what's going on here is that trump is using the same playbook against Joe Biden that he used against Hillary Clinton in two thousand sixteen to take an honorable public servant to make false accusations to to amplify that and to muddy the waters of their reputation so that you bring them down this is the Hillary's email thing that's right and also all of the things about the Clinton Foundation and selling uranium to Russia and these far-flung Internet conspiracy theories but that at the end of the day they shave off people at the margins and depress enthusiasm for a candidate my message to the American people would be don't fall for it. You don't fall for this bogus playbook. I have disagreements with Joe Biden on immigration immigration policy on healthcare policy number of other issues but I don't think for a minute that he's a dishonest man and that he did anything wrong here and I hope that our election is going to be determined by our differences on these issues and what we would do for the future of the country instead of by Donald Trump smearing a man that he believes represents a threat threat to him in November of twenty twenty. How does that reshape the Democratic race. Does that you know I wrote the other day that that hurts Joe Biden because it's you know if if if trump keeps talking about these charges even though they're unsubstantiated. It's still in the atmosphere. How does that help. Other candidates hurt other candidates. What is worth sounds that reshaped the race. We're so early into it. It's of course a little hard to tell but look what I think is that as Democrats realized that this is a wounded president. He's made his own bed by the way it's all of his own doing all of his own fault but as you have a wounded President I believe that the Democratic voters are going to understand that we have a real opportunity to to elect a candidate that can excite voters that will pursue a vision for the future of our country tree that is exciting and that we can aspire to and so that it's more than just doing the bare minimum that we can to to defeat Donald trump there many of us in this race who could defeat Donald Trump and I feel like this is going to allow folks perhaps to give a second look to a lot of candidates. The electability argument will be Oh. That's just Bein. He's the only person who beat up. If it's a wounded person may be other candidates might be given a second look we there was a poll about two weeks ago at Texas XS for instance that had me I believe three points ahead of Donald Trump in Texas. It's had other candidates ahead of trump in Texas X.'s in Arizona and other places so there are a lot of us who can defeat Donald Trump. I believe I bring is that I can excite a coalition of young divers working working people and get back Michigan Wisconsin Pennsylvania and also go and get Florida Arizona Georgia and my home state of Texas now in the last debate of course you so you took a lot of heat for challenging by non healthcare and it was for the way it was done in will play a clip about right here do not have to buy you just said that. Did you sit that two minutes ago. You just said two minutes ago that they would have to buy. You said they would have to buy it and qualify forgetting what you set for in just two minutes ago the I can't believe that you said two minutes ago that they had to buy in and now you're saying they don't have to but you're forgetting getting some call that ages slap. I may be the one of the few people in America reporters in America who died nine of a problem with that. I think this this is spring training and and this is not anything that even if it wasn't ages slap not anything that anybody hasn't said about Biden you know publicly cory booker right after the debate debate says he was concerned about quote. Joe Binds ability to carry the ball all the way across the end line without fumbling your football fan gang can doesn't it does Vice President Biden have some fumblitis. Are you concerned about that. As well. What I was concerned about on the debate stage was simply that we were having a disagreement about whether weather his plan would cover all would cover every American his healthcare plan and he had said that it would require some people to buy into his plan land ice. I pointed that out because that's one of the reasons that it leaves people behind he denied saying by an or that it would apply the way that I was saying. We had a disagreement even about that. So in the moment it was not meant as you know suggesting that that he was two years but I understand how some people took took it that way what it was suggesting was we have a difference in these plans and when you require somebody to buy in that means that you're. GonNa leave a whole bunch of people behind and when I get up they're on the debate stage. I'm a fighter. I'm a fighter for the most vulnerable people out there and I'm GONNA keep speaking up in this campaign for people who need speaking up for and and I can guarantee you that the Democratic nominee when they go up against trump in October two thousand twenty on that debate stage if trump hasn't been impeached by the hand and removed moved the trump ain't going to be nice and you know I was doing my best to point out the difference in our plans. Okay I want to go to the plans and second but you you think by massive as as a problem with fumbling and you concern about his age or his ability his string of missteps miscues whatever you want to I mean at this point. I'm more concerned about his stances on some of these issues. I disagreed with him on the deport. Detroit debate stage about immigration for instance Hi now I disagreed with him on health care a couple of other issues so that's my main concern. Let's let's talk about those healthcare differences you or a Medicare for all person when you support Medicare for all but you but you do see a space for private insurance correct there is I do how do you where does it fit it. So the approach that I take is that I believe we should base our healthcare system off of Medicare strengthen it for the people that are on Medicare and then make Medicare Medicare available to all the people who want it at the same time. Give people the option that if they went to hold hold on to some sort of strong solid private health insurance plan that they should be able to do that and so I see this as a private option. Let's take Bernie's plan for instance. Even under Bernie's plan there would be the ability to hang onto certain types of or have certain types of private health insurance. I think in his plan it's you know elective cosmetic surgery for instance but it would be very small but that's a nod in the direction of some people having some other private health insurance plant in other our countries. They have this model where the default is a public plan but you can have a a supplemental or private health insurance. Your plan sounds like kqed public option correct. I see more of a private option because for instance when somebody is born or when somebody loses his or her job or they don't have insurance right now they automatically would go into your without buying in or did they would automatically automatically enrolled into this Medicare base plant so if someone was so could you like if you have your private insurance you could keep it in other words you could as long as as long as it's a certain quality so there'd be sort of means testing to see if I strength tests testing testing of the insurance plan okay all right. Let's you you had said they. WanNa get if this other way a little bit of news you'll be on the debate stage in Ohio Tober Shirt Tober. Yes but you just sent out a fundraising. E mail that I saw that it says says I don't say this lightly this. is you talking or at least it is on your email blasts that we all get annoyed with candidates for the long emails. Austin Texas blanket apology right there you say I don't say this lightly. If I don't make the next debate stage it will be the end of my campaign and quote Oh. Is that accurate well. It's accurate to say that you know we need to make these debates. and I've said all along that if you don't make these debates it's very difficult to do anything in this race and so you know I was saying to my supporters there that the county on U to make sure that we have the resources verses to be able to buy the ads online and the outreach that we need your I'll make a decision final decision in the event that I don't make to November debate. I believe that we can confident that I can make it. I've been encouraged by some of the polls in the last two or three days but if not then yeah I want to be realistic to and and it is difficult to go on your biggest fundraising right after the quote Unquote Biden attack. Is that what we had our biggest fundraising that we'd had I think in that in a cornet few weeks or something you know the biggest day overall okay all right for you are the former secretary of housing using and you're you toward a homeless site. When you're in Oakland this week and you saw the I mean you didn't have to be told what the see-sawed the updated scale of the problem here in California we have ninety thousand homeless US across the State. Sacramento Mayor Dale's Darrell Steinberg. You probably know him from your mayoral days and your your your all all your other various incarnations. He's the head of the State's homeless task force and he wants an enforceable statewide right to shelter would require communities to to have enough shelter space or other housing to accommodate however big. They're homeless populations and if they do it require folks to go indoors or risks some sort of penalty the homeless folks what do you were you on a right to shelter. New York City does this. Is this the right way to go. I do think that we should work toward that. I think it makes sense. Where are you have a tremendous number of people who need some sort of shelter what we also need though as you need the resources to create permanent airman housing for people because this shelter is just a temporary thing you know ultimately we need reforms to the way that we're investing in housing and creating housing opportunity in general. I've put out a housing plan that calls for investments to create three million more units of housing. That's affordable to the middle class. The working poor the poor over the next ten years and I also see housing as a human right. I I believe that everybody should have a safety and affordable place to live and what I saw in Oakland. Yesterday was unlike anything I'd seen before what was different about about it. I've spent I'd never I'd never seen that kind of his cabinet. Yeah I mean I was housing secretary of traveled to one hundred different communities in thirty nine states a never seen that many people in one encampment with a combination of essentially shacks the kind that you would see if you go down to Mexico for instance that had been created through with boards awards and different materials plus broken down trailers and RV's. They you know the homeless community created its own neighborhood hood its own village and it just goes to the enormity of of the challenge out here and you when you go inside those encampments there. There are people have Jerry rate all kinds of wiring there. It's a it's an incredible fire hazard a in you know God forbid something horrible going to happen there so it was the density what else was different about it desert anything else you saw that was like wow. I've not seen this before. I mean I saw a lot when I was Housing Secretary Secretary I had not seen that extensive a homeless encampment and I had an opportunity to speak to some of the people there. Some people have lived there for a number of year there. It's also sad their children who were living there growing up in those homeless encampments people the WHO clearly have either mental health challenge or a challenge with addiction and so it's a powerful reminder that at every level at the local state and federal level as well as in the nonprofit and private sector. We need to step up or doing thing to provide more housing to people that need it and I've I've said this yesterday I challenged the New York Times and CNN that are hosting the next debate to actually actually ask a question about Housing and homelessness. I mean there's been nothing nomads right very little could say you know I would understand what people would say luck with housing secretary so you. WanNa be able to answer you know. Even if I weren't of his I I would even say get. Don't let me answer it. You know I mean give me a pass on it but I'm prepared to answer it but but it's these issues that affect so many communities and his you know homelessness doesn't just affect the people that are going through it affects the community around it and presents a real challenge and so we need to address these issues often get overlooked in the national conversation as exemplified by the debate stage and that was an area for for listen to knock the mayor with this new Home Depot you want yesterday. Were the with the city actually closed off the street. It becomes such a such AH hazard and such a horrible situation. What do you do to create more housing in places that are high income areas high-cost the real estate like San Francisco and Oakland Oakland San Jose the it's different here you know we have our. NBA like everybody else but we also. It's also very expensive to create housing and to get land set center. You're D- Does your plan address that yeah so I think there are. There are several things that we can do well number one. We do need to address Nimby ISM that prevents housing that's affordable to the middle class and working poor and the poor from going into many different neighborhoods. I would incentivize communities to actually get better about their land use codes Zoning Code Planning Code to make it easier to develop affordable housing in different communities munity different neighborhoods I believe of course the neighbors should have input into what happens in a neighborhood because everybody's GonNa be concerned about what goes into the neighborhood but I I don't think that that a neighborhood should be able to x. out for decades and decades and decades any kind of affordable housing development which is what happens in the other thing is some most creative approaches have been for instance to use public land the Avi A. was looking at doing this in. La Us some of the land that they already have and put affordable housing. They're on their property. I think you know more institutions that have land even when it's in high high cost areas especially maybe when it's in high cost areas but they have that land that they could use much more cheaply or for for nothing basically at least a land we need to have our public hospitals are transit centers owners other types of public institutions really brainstorm and come up with a plan of what they might be able to offer. Bart is doing this. I know I visited the fruitvale station and they're building transit oriented development Gunda. One of the folks of Bart said that I think almost about half or a little bit more than half of their stations have some sort of transit oriented development. Not all of it is housing but some of its other mixed use development. That's four decades coming as yeah. I mean in a lot of a lot out of work to do yeah but that's one other thing that institutions can do to get land free up land and make it available and put housing affordable on it right WanNa get your take on another California. She will have that has national implications and that's the GIG economy governor just signed a law it it decides it's something into law that would turn Lubar and lift drivers and other GIG workers into company employees instead of independent contractors. What do you think about that you agree with that and and can this scale to the national level. Or what do you think I hope so. I hope that it can because was happening. In our country right now. Is that especially in this GIG economy people who used to be treated as employees are now treated as independent contractors or employees that used to be full-time their scale gayle down to under thirty hours treated like part time workers. They're not giving any kind of benefits can help what I keep. Hearing from Uber and lift drivers is is that the companies have really clammed on down on how much they're actually giving to their drivers and that it's a lot harder to make a living doing that than it used to. Nali that I mean they don't get anything in terms of benefits at all they take on all the liability and so I see this as a positive step I you would the companies say this could three percent onto cost. It would make it less flexible for the for the workers right now. One of the one of the advantages one of the attractions to two for drivers is that it's a flexible hours would what do you think that they have tremendous turnover right now. Already I mean these companies lift and Huber one of their biggest problems is that they can't keep up with a the number of drivers that they need I think did this would actually go a long way toward providing more stability for those drivers allowing them to maybe earn a little bit more money as they should for their efforts and they would be willing to stick around on longer one last question you are the only let's candidate in the race. what every year Democratic Party the Republican Party for that matter under says we need to bring more Latino voters and the anime always say that you know we need to show up at communities and somehow that never happens. What what is the Democratic Party doing wrong. And what do they need to do. Better the Democratic Party can't take for granted the Latino community just like it can't take for granted the Asian American native American or the Black Community with Latinos. We have a very low voting rates participation turnout rate that means it what it's GonNa take is registration efforts and turn out efforts that go beyond just the the three or four months before election I mean this is a three hundred sixty five day year constant effort that needs to be made in those communities it also means means that we to speak to a lot of the issues boldly. I've done that on immigration on Education on housing on healthcare to connect with Latinos they have a lot of the same concerns that every other American family has now and so and then you can I encourage people out there to run for office from the Latino community it because it does make a difference you know as they say representation matters and the more that they see people who grew up in their neighborhoods and and can can relate to their families so directly. I think it's going to encourage people to participate more all right. Thanks trip back. Thank you Joe. 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#OurNewNormal | Stacy Owens of Half Moon Bay, California

T.O.F.U. Talks: #OurNewNormal

28:38 min | 6 months ago

#OurNewNormal | Stacy Owens of Half Moon Bay, California

"Thank you everybody for joining us today. Or tonight whatever it is where you're watching this. And welcome to another the Tokyo talk sessions around a basically our new. And dealing with this pandemic in everybody's little pocket of the world, and so. I WANNA I WANNA. Thank you for joining me as well. This is the first time we've talked I've I've known you off or online for a little bit but a privilege. Maybe introduce yourself. And My name is Stacey Owens. And I live in the San. Francisco Bay area. My next question was going to be wear. You know I guess. I didn't. I think you're the first person so her. I've talked to in in the bay area. Funny enough my My partner did a piece recently. She writes through one of the national papers here in Vietnam and she did a piece about them. There were two women that own I. THINK IT'S A. Photo Hanoi or annoy or something like these two restaurants in. The San Jose. Bay Area, Okay Yeah. Yeah, and so I she was wondering like. Always saying Oh, I, think people just call it the bay area and I had to look up. What exactly is the bay area? Could it wasn't sure if like San Jose was in it It's seven counties. In San Francisco is. Worldwide City here Oakland. San Jose or other major cities. Around here it's all the bay area but we call San Francisco the city and then Oakland in that area around there the east, Bay and San Jose area around there are the South Bay. I am I'm next to the Ocean just about twenty minutes south of San Francisco and this is called the peninsula. Okay. But it was I. Mean obviously. There's a Lotta great stories coming up missing people being creative, wanting to help and everything And so this woman basically decided that like since she had the shutter restaurant down, she thought okay. Well I can donating some money to the hospital whatever she said I can just make meals at my employees will be able to. You know to work in everything I guess people heard about it in the neighbors and stuff so like our distributors and suppliers donating in so I think she's done like three thousand or four thousand meals, so for like and a lot of the hospital workers never had Vietnamese food so now they're kind of like when things go back to normal. They're like well. We're totally going to go and check at your restaurant everything so. It was a really cool story, but that was like I remember having to look up Okay San Jose in the bay area and you know so. I got a better picture. Yeah Yeah exactly we. We've a lot of our. Sort of mutual aid groups are doing to food, not bombs. is sort of organizing and their different chapters around the band, doing a great job of getting food and supplies out to people as well. 'cause like anywhere else. We have a huge problem of people without houses. And that's probably been the scariest. Part of all this. I think when I hear about the bay area. That would be another. Thing I hear about is housing prices and. All that because there's a there's a bit of the tech industry. Thing is going on there right if I'm not mistaken like like crazy. Yeah, it means that I mean you know my little teeny house that I live in Zillow at before this who knows now, but but it. You know they were saying this is about. Two Thousand Square feet. You know built in the nineteen seventies Granted were near the ocean, but last time I did it was worth over one point two million dollars, according to Solo so that just is obscene, and it tells you how completely out of range yeah, it's gotten for anybody and that's you know about six times what my husband paid for it in the nineties. Only is it completely out of range? But it's happened very fast in. You know relatively speaking in twenty years it's. Gone up extremely, so if Yeah and I mean obviously with this sort of thing happening in the world that kind of just makes it even more of a concern is this concept of will stay home shelter in place? It's like Whoa. What do I do if I don't have a home? Yeah or summer to shelter, and you know right now. I live near the ocean, so we've been having a lot of people from out of town. who think that shelter in place means drive to half moon go to the beach. So, so there's been. You know increasingly over the month. There's been a lot of. Efforts to curb that. But the latest one which I have very mixed feelings about is that the police are now pulling people over and looking at driver's licenses to see if you live in this area. You know which. The part of me that's that's terrified when I go to take my exercise in there. Is You know fifty people on the beach trail? Is You know kind of relieved that we're trying to get rid of that? The social. Justice pointed for people who don't have houses. you know. Where are they going to be? If every community keeps saying Oh, you can't be here. You can't be here and he can't be here. This is not a solution. It is not sustainable, and beyond the fact that it's quite scary. That being told the people can be fined or even arrested. For! Being in the wrong place. And I think I mean here in Vietnam obviously I a technically shouldn't even be critical of the government because. They're. All have. Their consequences But it has been interesting to see I mean in the neighborhood. I feel like a lot of people are not complying, but there hasn't been like. This mass uprising of protests in everything because. It's you know protesting isn't really a big thing here because there's repercussions that are pretty serious But I feel like in some ways and depending on. If you believe the numbers, in China are not like that sort of one state party thing led to maybe some of these regulations, everything being listened to a little better. We're just kind of like. Okay, we'll do that whereas when it went over to the West, you know people are like within a week. Everyone's like this has to end now like you can't tell me what to do I have my freedoms and that it on sale. Yeah, I mean. It was the same thing in the West Coast Canada in like Easter, break came around, and people are going to their cottage or cabin, or whatever it's like. No, you're supposed to stay home like, but I've also read that I'm. Like here in Vietnam, and obviously in two stars, and one and one hit pretty hard here so I think people also you don't have that in their memory and their dislike, right? We've kind of done this before. Let's do it. We need to do and figure it out and So I. Don't know it's a whole mix, but I was gonNA. Ask you like how. You know what sort of measures are in place like in the area that you're in an are people listening to them and we kind of. Ready Yeah because you're more. Yeah, I mean they the entire bay area. Was Pretty early, and has been pretty good about trying to put measures in place so they've been increasing as you go along, and his people aren't following the rules, then they put more and So, we've all been home for about a month I think he might be exactly a month the schools are closed until. Next year. So. School school around here starts late, August so as far as we know. Kids are going back to school mid late. August but we don't really know You know it just sort of week by week, They! were. Allowed to go out only for exercise in essential tasks I feel like that people are probably pushing it with the exercise. Ling is where he discussed a minute ago, but you know I. get it. I AM critical, but also I get to live next to the beach so exercise for me means I Gino. Would it mean for somebody else? Exercise means walking around a city block. That's not so fun Yeah you know and then With the essential activities, if you go to the grocery store or hardware store anywhere, that's allowed to be open. You have you're required to wear a mask and gloves. and. We got emails this morning saying that they were going to start. enforce did this is our grace period and they're gonNA. Start enforcing that with fines. And Possible Arrest on the twenty second so great Tuesday or Wednesday. Yeah. That's you know and I feel like that. That's. Pretty typical, but I know that there is other states in the country, and other. Areas Out of the country where they stop, were they didn't do the social distancing until much later and I'm not sure every state even is right now. Question Mark Question Our guy. They give I. Red State, or a blue state right so. Yeah I've definitely I mean I haven't been keeping like total track of all the states, but the overall news I've been getting from the states is that it's kind of a mix you know some places are already now talking, but all right. We're GONNA open up in. The economy again in other places just say you know I. Mean California in general I think he's been pretty tight and obviously like New York. State is going through kind of the worst of it from what I known, so they're not in any way being like all right next week. We're Kinda. But yeah, it definitely seems like it's a bit of a mix. So in terms of I know you have one kid, right? I've got one. Well. I've got three kids, but I've got one kid who is of school age. Lives here with with me and not got an older one is. I mentioned. WHO'S IN SEATTLE? He's thirty than I have a college age. Son Who is home sheltering in place with us. So yeah, and and you know so so we were sort of running the gamut. My my thirty year old is the director of volunteers at a homeless shelter in Seattle. So some stuff. That's coming out of there. They're having A. Hard time making some decisions and figuring out how they're going to serve everybody. And then, and then my middle son might twenty three year old. We really don't know day-to-day if he's going to be going to. College again in the fall You know it senior year, so this is going to. In some way, affected studies You know and then and then my little one. They, they're calling it remote learning. That different schools are doing a different ways his class in particular and I think it may be our district. There are occasional online. Zoom meetings, Nov.. But. It's really just sort of a check in and the teaching is all happening. There's work being sent. Home will not sent home. There's Google classroom. You log in there. And all the workers there but the actual teaching has been a combination of me and my husband and my. Twenty three year old, who also thank God is math and science teacher for his. Haven't been able to you know. put some of this on him, but but that has been. really difficult. I'm at the point where where I feel like I need them to say like either. Do some remote teaching, or just you know. Let us a little off the hook with the volume of the assignments. stressful to trying to get. All these pieces of paper. Done every day And it not and I don't think it serving anybody I don't think he's really. Quote Unquote Learning In the way that he would be. If there were some online classes which you get a privilege and I know everybody can't get that, but. Since we do have at. Can we utilize it in a way that means that I can actually. Do My job. have in between definitely. Would be would make things complicated. I know here. On the international schools, obviously, there were like all right online learning. Let's do it because there's no way more funding in like I think. Part of the infrastructure was already in place. So I've talked to like 'cause. I've been writing for the paper as well On. I've talked to some of the parents like foreigners with their kids in. The snapshot of You Know How people are doing here with foreigners is. No big deal you know half of them were teachers themselves, so you're just teaching their kids in the day and then doing you know online classes make a little bit of money and I mean obviously people have been affected in terms of their income because. Schools here have been closed since like January. So, there are some some teachers that haven't really had you know because depending on the school? He went with data like all right closed. Or some moved online learning order, so it's been like a mixed bag. The people I talked to were all doing pretty well. But that's like very much. A different world compared to say like what I understand that the public school system here and always seen people in small towns, unlike remote villages and everything. It's like I've heard some stories of like very determined students like sitting on a hilltop with like a cellphone signal to be able to get online classes. And then working in the firm for day, so they can go and buy more data on their cellphone. So it's. Again you know it's people just trying to do the best they can with what they have, but. Yet you would think lake reminds us of our privilege l.. But I mean you know in that sense, too? It's like okay, if the school system within say. or Western countries GonNa do it like. Do it, and and I mean you know, but obviously add like everything's kinda touching go. Kids not like there's like a manual for both of this right I mean his. I know like SARS and h did kind of hit the west, but like I mean I know in Canada Toronto Kinda had to deal with SARS a bit, but it wasn't like this nationwide disturbed looking about it right, but it wasn't like anybody thought they were. Get it. Just yeah, this is really unprecedented. This constant having like. Everything shut down. I! I mean I feel like I'm a little old but I. Definitely haven't lived long enough to have anything to compare this to write and. All? This she lives since nineteen eighteen or something. Like there you gotta go back away. so I mean look obviously, so it's impacting your family in different ways. How like altogether how are you coping with it like? Do you have any any secrets to its keeping all building? I mean I. Think The you know. I think overall. We're doing pretty well and unfortunately the secret is is that. You know. I have all kinds of luxuries. The most people don't have I. Have a house that I live in I'm not worried that I'M GONNA get kicked out by a landlord or any of this type of thing I owned my own business at you. Know so. You know whether businesses upper down a little bit of we can. We all have certainly instituted that. For me and all of the employees that are hours are just catch as catch can Ri-, were we can? And you know my We. Just have a relatively comfortable, live and so. There's certainly some. Awareness and guild that is involved with it, but I don't have you know. Tons of great tips for people who are in an unstable situation I mean how we're dealing with it is were family games every night One thing that we are doing with my son's school that. I feel blessed about is that his teacher institute is something called Genius Hour which is just being able to research and spend an hour each day doing whatever it is that you want to do and learning, whatever it is that you WANNA learn so we have been going through the history of liberation movements and In different, looking at different protests, looking at different. Protesters certain figures throughout history and seeing what was effective in what wasn't. Really trying to make this a teachable activists moment for him. He's always been interested in activism so. So you know I. I feel like that. That sort of Passing on knowledge and having fun as a family and the ability to think about. You know, what do things look like when we get out of here? And and what kind of steps can we take? To make sure that things are more fair. Going forward is. Best that we can do in his in his helping us. All feel like there's some purpose to. Being locked up in our house. Right, you know. I am I. Have a friend who think I mean. From what I know about her through social media with her child like they're fairly young, I. Think maybe she'd be doing this anyway. I'm not even sure if the kids ready for school yet but she's been doing like. Kind of going through the alphabet, and like each day's a different letter incident. She's going over like different musicians with that. You know that start with that letter in. Different books that start with that and certain topics around like you know activism in sort of historical figures that all start with G. Your F- for whatever and so she's been posting kind of like the collection on the table and being like today we learned about like you know I'm totally blanking on it, but just like a an. Historical people listen to this kind of music in these bands and I was like well. That's cool, so it's like I feel like everyone I've talked to has talked about like the importance of like maintaining routine, and you know just kind of knowing okay today. We're GONNA maybe like have classes and. That sort of thing I mean while also being aware that if you have a bad day like. That's fine because this is a messed up situation. Eight to be able to you know process so. In terms of your kid like how how have you explained to like? Have you kind of totally put it all out there, or is it like sort of? Always be completely upfront an honest in a in a very age appropriate way with everything I mean he's been an Vegan since birth. We talked to him about you know racial justice issues. You know Lgbtq a everything so so we make sure that the he really understands the real information, but in a way. That's not scary anxiety producing so what what he knows. Is that Kind of as much as I know right, which is. This. There's this virus in you know more. You're more able to catch than the regular flu. and the the hospitals could get overwhelmed so to be a good community member. We have to do our part and shelter in place, and that we don't really know when this is GonNa end, but you know. We. Have some guesses. We think that it might be a few months, but we'll just have to. Do our best and we still. Can you know take the dog for a walk? Cook with Mommy, and you know all the all the normal stuff that we do it. We're all just waiting to hear what's going to happen Because I. Am Very political and I. You know run a political firm and You know my family's very political I've been. You know mostly talking him off a ledge about. trump, and and what is this you know if like. He's. He's completely determined that this means that trump's not gonNA win. You know so there's so the most anxiety has been around right and I'm just. You know so the most anxiety is is is really been around What's going to happen in the future because of this it's. Yeah, we're all which are all experiencing and we just. Talk about it as honestly as we can and talk about well if he does then we're going to organize and. Just all we can do. I mean on that note actually that leads into pretty well to the last question or I guess sort of group of questions. I mean are there like you kind of touched on? If you know certain outcomes, but are they any sort of lessons that you you think your family is GonNa. Take from experience experience again. Things Kinda Kinda changed the way. You've been living or like things you focus on or anything like that. E Yeah. Yeah I think that. That as much as I've always talk to everybody about being an activist in how it's important to support, you know different movements in. We've done so all along I think that this is showing us that Paying more attention is going to be important going forward. And maybe Mixing in more direct Warwick, not getting so sidetracked by you know. I'm tired from work I'm tired from school You know just. Trying trying to really Better use the privileges that we have financial with time and. Class and everything else to. To be able to to systematically chip away at this better you know in in a unique position again with with working in politics. Send. My hope is that. That peer group that I work with on the political side that that this. This really motivates. That that peer group because you know it's, it's really the people in power who need to be looking at universal basic income, and you know how. How is it that they're saying that they can find places for people without a house to be now, but they couldn't have all long. How is it that we can feed people now, but we couldn't all right. Healthcare I mean? How is it that that they're saying oh? Yeah, you know anybody can go in and get a Tassell. That was never true before So you know, I'm starting to see certainly here in the bay area. which is you know a lot of the? People I work with Bay area or certainly California campaign I also have some North Carolina campaign, so so it's two different worlds, but But. Certainly the bay area. I'm seeing that. That the people who have the power are are more on that progressive side and more able to start to look at how we're going to. Make these things systematically better for people going forward But but this is definitely I think reenergized me and. My children to? To really look at. Keeping all the core with try to make things better in escalating. I think. Than sewing that I notice, too. Is that all these things that I mean especially in the states you know and in Canada's? While all these things that everyone was like look. We need to do this and everyone's GonNa. We can't like everything all pardon what? The communist state or whatever? It'll be anarchy like that's a bad thing, yeah! Of the country will tattered on. And this comes around and starts. You know finally like the majority's spacing it and it's like all right. Okay, you know in Canada. They were like. Student loan payments are being forgiven her like pushed ahead. And now there's what is sort of a version of basic income I mean they were doing I think they started doing it testing population about it, but it's not exactly like on a yet to be passed. Now, the government's like all right. We're going to give you know I mean people are falling through the cracks like freelancers and everything but it's SORTA talked about right. I mean obviously the healthcare thing in states is one of the big ams. Is You know as much as Canada like there are issues of their healthcare system at least. If people WANNA. Go get a test. They get sick. They're not like ten thousand dollars. In debt just because they got an incredibly infectious disease. So again. That's something that I've been kind of focusing on to. Is that I hope? You know out of this. People be like you know what maybe those weird lefties were handsome had a good idea there that this. Safety net isn't necessarily gonNA lead the like the collapse of our country. It does does seem like it's just a sort of very basic. Idea and and for me it's it's frustrating I. Come from a family of. A long line. My great grandfather was a union organizer back in the nineteen tens and twenties when it was dangerous. Ride and I was born in Berkeley in nineteen seventy. It always felt to me like that. Did it seemed like grown-ups were trying to handle this. And so how do we find ourselves here now? You and grown-ups, so we got we've really got to. We've got do something here. So I mean I think we kind of touched on it, but like what do you? What do you hope the world learns this tragedy? I hope the world learns to act more communally to think more about you know your neighbors, and and that. Maybe you don't need three cars. If your neighbor starving to death, I mean just you know just just I hope that they're. Both people's individual attitudes, and also some of our systems are changed in a way that that more people have more and fewer people have too much. Yeah. Yeah, I can agree with that I sounds. A good goal I WanNa I. WanNa thank you for sort of sharing a little window here part of the world. I am I definitely wasn't reading in the media of day? Except for the story my partner did. So. Thank you so much and I'm sure we'll be talking again like we have been asked him very. and yeah I hope you have A. Wait? No, it's night there. Right sort of not quite. It's four thirty. Okay well I! Hope the rest of your evening goes well, and I will be again in some form.

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The Information's 411  Real Estate Pwned

The Information's 411

27:32 min | 1 year ago

The Information's 411 Real Estate Pwned

"Friday. Everybody happy upcoming long weekend. This is Tom Dotan at the information bringing you our weekly podcast and not make side about the long weekend. I'm excited about this episode because we are changing things up on you format wise. I've got Cory Weinberg one of our excellent reporters here talking to a guest Kim, my Cutler VC over at initialized capital. Also, an expert on housing and bay area, and they had a great conversation about what Tex influence is on the housing crisis happening, both in San Francisco in across the state, and really what it means in California to, to be a homeowner and see what it's like to have all these housing prices going up, and what it means for a business to have housing and real estate prices going up. It's a certainly a topic that has gotten lots of people kibitzing on it, and posting debatably relevant and accurate commentaries. But it's also one that, you know, undoubtedly matters, whether or not you believe San Francisco is a bottomless cesspool of, of bad housing. Decisions and skyrocketing prices. Or you think there's more hope and I think both Kim and Corey come down somewhere in the middle. Then I'm talking to Jeremiah saw about Weiwei the constantly embattled company. That's caught in the crosshairs between the US and China war. The stakes keep getting raised measures taken against the company by the US keep getting more Conan, and it's getting to be a red alert over there. And while a enduro had a great interview with the head of consumer electronics and also gives a good rundown on what while way can needs to do nor to survive, not survive. But, but get back on track during this extremely contentious time for the company, all right? Before we get to the show, though. There are a couple of things that I want to once again. Plug for you. First off. We've got our happy hour in DC, the view from Silicon Valley, DC happy, hour hosted by us. The information featuring Jessica, lessen our founder and our reporters Asha, golden Christer, and they are great. That is happening on June fifth. Go. Hang out with them. Talk about all the things that we talk about on the podcast and more and special thanks to Comcast for hosting us at their offices for this event. And then we have our Atanas vehicle summit, June thirteenth. That's in San Francisco, led by our Mira Friday talking about all things av people from all the major av companies. And that's one of our one of our signature events happening. Like I said, in San Francisco, do you want more information about either of these events, sent an Email to events at the information dot com? Corey takeaway. Hello, everybody. I'm Cory Weinberg? I'm a reporter at the information and we decided to switch things up a little bit this week. We brought in Kim my Kotler, who's a partner at initialized capital, which is an early stage, VC firm, and she's also an expert and advocate in housing policy. Former reporter tech crunch, and an avid. Tweeter on housing policy issues, can my thanks for coming in today. Thanks for having me. So we wanted to sort of address, this sort of question of, of sort of what's going on in housing and what's going on with the bay area Connie this week because there's been a spate of stories in the national media. You know that I think a lot of people are reading about what's happening to San Francisco. Now that tech wealth and. Sort of a changing city has become sort of so apparent and I think people are really struggling with sort of what lens to maybe sort of talk about that issue through. And I wanted to talk about that a little bit with you today to my. What was your reaction to this narrative that sort of developing that, that San Francisco is over that sort of, it's losing sort of secret sauce, so to speak? Yeah. I mean, there are a couple pieces that came out in the last couple weeks, when from Weiner at the New Yorker who actually really, I really like her met her in person, and I'm excited to read, her memoir of working in the industry that not sure, when it's coming out, but she's she's working on a book. There was another one in the Washington Post, which kind of interviewed all your usual characters that kind of show up like the story gets written, like every year, basically someone who's not from here in all the same people were in the exact same story again. And I think that, like, you know, there is this general feeling like you have this simultaneous wave of initial public offerings, which have been awaited for an anticipated for almost a decade and you know, it should be this kind of feeling of. I guess should be a celebration. I'm not really. Sure. And then at the end there's actually just kind of an unease animals, and I do think that, that general feeling the feeling of it does feel correct in the sense that we've had a lot of many years to plan for this, and the city in the bay area, frankly hasn't done it. And you know, we're in a situation where we are in a particularly cruel game of musical chairs where they're only so many seats for people because we've under invested in infrastructure and housing capacity. And therefore only certain types of people can afford to come or, or stay here, long term, and that definitely absolutely affects the culture of the region at the same time. The thing that I feel that is missing from a lot of analysis people, there's like an underlying symbiotic relationship. Between the way that the financial system of the state of California and a lot of its cities, work, and the technology industry, and they kind of rely on each other and away that isn't so readily apparent to the people writing the, like ten dollar toast, articles and that is that, like if you look at the financial calculus of a lot of various cities, they are constrained on the tax revenue collection side. They're constrained by prop thirteen which means houses and property owners pay tax rates from decades ago that can be inherited and those tax rates don't keep up with the cost of providing services, like police fire schools, and at the same time, they also have a lot of liabilities. Oakland, San Jose bowl spend like twenty percent of their general funds on retirements for people who no longer work there. And I'm not I'm not saying that there should I'm just saying that those are things that were not adequately budgeted for when they happen. And cities are in this concern space, they make deals they bring intact the approve of space to kind of cover those differences. And that's what kind of keeps the whole financial system running. And there's this kind of trade, however, you wanna look at it is at the devil's bargain, or a positive trade, that enables people not to pay more in property taxes. Whatever that fuels the whole cycle so feels like there's, you know, there's obviously political friction to creating sort of big solutions, but there's also momentum building like since you've been sort of. Really focused on the housing issue has are you sort of more optimistic than you were, you know, five ten years ago, I definitely think there is movement. Like if you look at the demographic numbers, and if you look at you know it is really really very much generational. And she'll, and it pulls along generational lines. I mean you. It what you see among younger folks in the barriers, like they get it like you know, you know what having single family homes that are two or three million dollars like those are luxury homes. Right. And, and you know, particularly with climate change, and with fire risk flooding risk, and sea level rise risk affecting the terrain and supply of land that we can use for housing, you're going to have to go up a not as an uncomfortable cultural change. But it is something that a lot of younger folks understand, and they kind of get intuitively because we're not going to be able to make it work the any other way. And yet, sort of, you know, the, the political power, you know, usually stems from older voting homeowners and seems like to some degree. We're just to kind of continue to see this playing out for, you know, a decade or more. I don't really interested. They're being. Huge change in the narrative of or the reality of San Francisco and the bay area. And a lot of big cities have a lack of housing supply, which creates all of this sort of anx to some degree is somebody else have someone else going to gain from this. I, I mean I haven't calculated. I mean, I haven't calculated the numbers have to calculate the numbers again. But I would say that, like most of the companies that we've invested in the last year, they're not in San Francisco and. Most of them are not even debate area. Like they're, you know, folks were incredibly comfortable investing in Metra's outside of through the region, whether that's Atlanta, or New York, or Los Angeles or Chicago. And I wouldn't say that there's one single tech hub, but we're we're happy doing. We often share, like a lot of folks who run remoter distributed teams like founders definitely share best practices among each other about how to run those things. So as an investor and as someone at an investment firm, we're super excited about this. Like, we don't really, you know, we're not partial to the company necessarily being in the region as, as a Californian as longtime area resident on the other hand, I do one of the things that's most troubling about this last. Boom. Is it like took this, boom, just to run in place against the unfunded liabilities that the city and the state of California has? And so if you don't have that. That going forward into the next decade, what it effectively means are those unfunded costs are going to continue to erode and cannibalize the level of services and quality of schools, and everything that local districts and city governments can provide. So it's kind of this two sided thing where it's like as an investment firm, we we're happy to do. We like it's cool. You know the same runs until, like a, a whole antitrust debate, because the companies that are growing most heavily in San Francisco right now, are Google and Facebook and Amazon. Only sort of the richest most profitable companies, and I don't, I don't think that the political apparatus of the state or the city, fully understands what that means. I think that if we were to say, like most companies are not, you know, most of the companies invest in the last year, not here, they'd be like, hey, create jobs everywhere. But they don't understand that, that also means, like just big tack are the ones that are taking the lease here in a city being really dependent on not only like undiversified in this set of industries, but like actually an undiversified said of employers, you know, there's, there's pluses and minuses to that, unless question I think. Does is tech sort of smartly using their political power in any way to sort of shape, the housing conversation like I've written about a little bit before that there's there is some kind of growing interest and concern and sort of political donations and philanthropy towards the cause of forcible housing and housing policy. Is that making much of a dent, you know, at the state level at the local level, or is it is not an issue that tech and really sway, politically? I think it's kind of a mixed bag. It's like it depends on the company in the founder like like. On a comparison basis. Like, imagine if you're them player this of the company, it's like, are you going to spend the effort time and money on something that might take ten or twenty years in his like I mean, we'll just move my, which is. Yeah, exactly. And so I think for some people, it just makes more sense for them to be like, let's just opened an office in Denver or whatever. But I do think that there are certain, you know, like Chan Zuckerberg is is known to be pretty involved in the space. There's some philanthropic organizations that are that are more involved. Yeah. What about any off? He was quoted in the Washington, Post piece, as I guess. What are the voices telling people that San Francisco is a disaster. Yeah. The property, the rail Gail so is the largest employer of the city of peace, and it's kind of confusing. I wonder I don't it was hard for me to tell the story whether she actually interviewed him or if she was quoting him from a TV in her the way, who cited but, I mean, yeah, he, he embodies, like, you know, an interesting contradictory role like he's both in employer. He's donor. And he's, and he's like I don't even I don't know if he's fourth fifth or sixth generation, you know, I appreciate like you can see that his company is much more involved in the city than any others. And certainly. Right. And certainly the city, the city appreciates that notices that there's a reason he has the tallest tower in the city. You know, those things are related. You know, those that don't cave your his personal behavior, his company's involvement in institutions and the fact that he's tall building. Those things are related mature. They don't have like a cafeteria or something, or they don't have some big apparatus, you know, employer employees, some type of restaurant or something in their office of seen it. But like, you know, those things are related. And yet, at the same time, you know he. Yeah, he you know, he being quoted as unbridled like saying, this is unreal capitalism. And the city is a disaster. It was it was kind of a strange out of it was out of context, kind of quote Oto. I did one of the. One piece noted this. But I really do think that like that Klein of local news, a sort of involved in all this to, like, no one sort of paying attention to, like, what the LA times of the chronicle is sort of right. Like not enough, people sort of paying attention to sort of local news engage, answered of, like, like housing fights is sort of a bit of an issue. I mean, I think I mean one thing that you definitely like when local news is under invested in. I mean local, the quality of local government suffers and like you actually see that reflected, statistically, like in bond costs and borrowing costs because like no one's monitoring the government that well, but I definitely think like one of the things is like a lot of a lot of folks industry. Don't pay attention to, to city news. And so they don't understand the context of all the decisions that are being made without their knowledge or you see the momentum that sort of. Advocates sort of had sort of making this argument around sort of the need for, for all sorts of housing, typologies, and building housing and a lot of different areas, like it's sort of, it's in the air, it's in the water like there's definitely political momentum there. It's just weeks like this just seems a little bit like the demographics are moving there. Right. Right. Well Kim, I think so much for coming in and follow Kim. My Cutler on Twitter and also subscribed to local news, follow actually what's going on, on a day-to-day level and in, in housing and local economy. Thanks much. Regio. So while way, the US is kind of this ever-worsening soap opera in which the six keep getting raised especially on the US side towards while away. And I felt like you know, you, you wrote this great story earlier this week in which he spoke to the consumer electronics chief of while way, who's straight up says this is going to be a tough time for the company. I mean from the wall way perspective. How would you sort of describe their situation? Like, what, what is basically happen to the company over the last couple of days when it comes to their access to US technology, also, it started with the US government's decision to essentially block while away from Lockwood access to, to use technology. And so that means qualify actually works with a lot of US suppliers. Right. Wally buys chips, from Intel in many other components from US companies. And so this, I I this means that the while those US companies cannot cannot sell their components to Walli, but US technology also applies to acknowledge us technology from US companies but other suppliers in other countries as long. As they using in what they call US orgin technology, then they may also have to stop doing business with, wow way. So this has basically very very wide reaching in impacts to end. So you've seen over the past several days, you've seen a Google's decision to basically limit twelve as access to Android. Right. And which will have a huge impact on his smartphone business. And then the UK chipmaker arm also suspended its business with power and arms chip design is used as a basis for pretty much all mobile processors around the world. So this also affects way and just just said, this never seems to stop. So let's talk about the operating system thing because that came up specific. In your conversation with the wowie executive what does it mean for the company to not really have access to Android? So in this case. You know, the some of the details that, that came out is that existing phones will continue to have access Android, one, step in people already using and the those will still get a phone now you know, Android updated, but future, hallway phones, the ones that will be released in the future, basically, we'll come with Android. But it will be very basically strip off of Google services. So in all want likely have a Google play up store, g mail YouTube. So what this means is that, while we sell this half of the phones that father sales is outside of China and in those markets, everyone's everyone's using Google play. Everyone's using Google apps. So imagine. An Android phone without those services. It's it will be basically useless, right? And so the, the what people expect now is that this will completely destroy Huawei's overseas small business, any, China, China, where Google services, L, ready mostly blocked of this may not have a huge impact, but essentially, you know, Walli is right now facing the risk of losing half of its math on sales, and, you know, which is huge for basically hallways. Kind of. Battling for the, the second place in the world's small market, share with apple and Samsung into biggest that a lot of people expected, while would eventually even overtake Samson in terms of volume. But all of that seems unlikely this latest development. It's kind of incredible. Would you put it in those terms that arguably second largest smartphone maker in the world is facing the possibility of having half of its business be cut off because of this dispute. So what do they have in store as a way to, to deal with the situation right now? It sounds like they have a project, but it just isn't ready yet. Right. So over the past several days, there's a lot of a lot of discussions about while ways internal project to develop its own operating system in this has been reported, you know, even the information reported several years ago, and this is an ongoing project that has been around for years with inquiry, but recently, so seventy everyone's paying attention to this. And, you know, is this going to replace Android for qua- and, but why I'm getting from what I'm hearing from my sources inside while way is that so this project internally, it's known as project z people say, it's far from ready. And but of course, the current situation means that they might have to rush it. And but originally, this project was really designed for. For the domestic market because China's. In a mobile market is so unique in that Google services and not really there. And so quite season paternity in China to kind of, you know develop an operating system for all of its devices and phones and laptops. And you know, even the IOT appliances. And so that was kind of thing that they were trying to do with this project in just for the Chinese market. So it was never meant to be a replacement of Android globally that, that wasn't really damn Bishen. But then all these sanctions and getting blocked from essentially blocked from Android. Google services might force them to exit right this project. But basically people I've spoken to who are even very close to the project are seen quest skeptical. That that's possible. Obviously goading on OS is one thing. But the building a whole ecosystem of apps and everything around it these another. So can they do that globally? Yeah. That's highly doubtful. And so, what at this point can they really do given that, you know, it's debatable as to whether or not, this is directly directly related to the trade dispute between the US and China or a unique national security issue. That that's that's wholly separate from it. But from what ways perspective, I mean one is there anything they can do at this point and two. I mean, is there an end in sight? I mean what, what is the resolution of this whole problem? So at this point, so they part of the sanctions was that they lost access to a lot of component suppliers. And to some extent, they have been preparing for that scenario of what if we cannot use chips, from US companies? So over the years, they have been trying to grow their in house semiconductor unit. And, you know, they already make a lot of chips for the mobile phones, instead of relying on, you know, Qualcom too much, and so they have done some of that. And clearly they will have to do more of that. And then they have stockpiled lot of components from US suppliers in the past in a more than six month and so that will help them source, you know, because they can't. By more from those suppliers for now, they may have enough components to keep making products. But those neither one of these, I mean. So they don't have really like a long term solution, yet, you know, if the, the inventory of components that they have runs out and, you know, therefore to try to develop more in house, he will take a long time. And so, yeah, it's what they can do is really limited. But at this point, based on you know what people inside while we have told me, you know, this not much, they can do, but just have to. I mean, they can't just give up so and not not make things right. Something. But when it comes to, I think, when it comes to the trade war situation, what Donald Trump will decide or Hollywood, obviously have very little control it. So. You know, some of the negotiation they might just to see what the Chinese government comes comes up with or at. But I think the idea, especially for, you know, people are folly, who are in charge of those operations. There's really very little they can do in terms of changing the, the political climate. So they have to just work on the supply chain and, you know, things like that internal project. But, you know, some of those people, very realistic, so they know that in most of those will probably not be enough. And so the consequences on their business and base, they basically will have to revise all of their business targets and kind of everything goes out of the window. It's a high stakes while way right now. And a lot riding on is suppose whether or not the. The Chinese and the Americans come to a deal which release anybody's guests in, in our day and age. Anyway. Jiro great work as always. Glad to have you on here and we'll talk soon. Thanks.

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DLD 286: Back to the Future!

Dots, Lines & Destinations

34:39 min | 7 months ago

DLD 286: Back to the Future!

"YOU'RE LISTENING TO DOTS. Lines and destinations travel. Podcast with host Stephen Seagraves Foss Moon and said Miller. Hello and welcome to episode. Two hundred eighty six dots lines and destinations set hosting this week. Stephen still out with Busted eardrum or something like that. So He's on the mend and we'll be back soon hopefully Joined by thaws as always fast. How you doing? I'm not too shabby. We are also quite fortunate this week to be joined by Ned. Russell formerly a flight global now of the Point Sky Ned. Welcome to the show. Thanks plus to be here. Yeah you know. I think this is your first time on. And we're super excited to get you into the rotation and especially excited actually talked about one of your bigger stories last week Which was sort of thinking about the future of airline route networks and this is based on the whole Kobe nineteen airlines collapsing slash contracting slash in some cases bankrupting. And who knows really where any of this is going to come out in the end but trying to understand a little bit about sort of what the options are where things look like. They're going and how it might play out. So you WANNA SORTA walk us through a little bit of what your analysis suggesting. Yeah definitely I like the caveat that everyone I spoke to sold me. Airlines are in essentially triage mode. Right now they are cutting. They're trying to get capacity down to wear demand is and no one really knows where the bottom is. I think I heard the other week. That America was running ten percent load factors. So it's pretty low so they need to cut a lot so what I did with stories. I tried to set out to kind of be like what are airlines. GonNa look like when they when the recovery does come. You know they're going to be smaller. Various estimates put twenty twenty one at about twenty percent or twenty percent smaller than twenty nineteen. And that would put it back to two thousand thirteen levels. So where airlines. GotTa go when they come back high level. It's going to be their core. It's going to be the Atlanta Atlanta for Delta Chicago United. Dallas THAT AMERICAN. Couple of their core hops. Those are GONNA come back. The big guys are GonNa WanNa feel Their networks he can keep thirteen. Keep getting to all of the destinations. They serve domestically. At least you might have to connect a double connect which is unheard of for the past few years. But they're still gonNA fire. There's a lot of wiggle room around the edges and that's the smaller coastal hubs B. Boston at Delta. You know American in New York or La United's La hub is awesome question marks where they're going to be and it's really going to depend a lot on where demand is when this comes back but just trying to try to play into what the key themes would be with comeback and with airlines might look like as they built back up so. I WANNA touch on one thing. You said there And sort of no one knows where the bottom is. I know I think it was over the weekend Americans. Vp route planning or. I'm not sure I think title last. Raja maybe comment you know. Hopefully eventually we'll get to the point where there's no one left to cancel on us. I saw that line and that was a great quote. Yeah they basically. He's like begging for the bottom to finally hit. He doesn't know what's going to happen. But at some point there has to be no one still able to cancel flights that they've already booked. Yeah I think it's how far out Americans are willing to hold onto the tickets. I know I'm sitting on some tickets for August that I'm hoping not to cancel but You know it's of course an open question mark at this point. Yeah actually do. I have some tickets out into September. I think now that Hadn't thought about them but Return returning from Europe for something. I bought some ways That I might actually still get to us so I hope I hope I got to. I would like to see Casablanca again. Too for a lot of But the other thing I want to bring up as you talked about where the prime hubs are and where the core is in Delta make sense DFW Make Ida Delta DFW for American. Is Chicago really the core for United? Everything I hear from people I speak to a Chicago. And Denver are sort of their core. East-west West connecting hubs of they're going to focus on building. I now of course is caveat it on you if there's a big outbreak in Chicago and you see the kind of cuts in New York. It's a different story but That's what I hear about united the domestically those are the two core hubs really Chicago in Denver. I'm surprised by that really. I'm not surprised that they'd be considered. Core hubs for flow like that. I'm surprised that those are aware the focus will be for rebuilding. Maybe that's a function of. What does it mean to rebuild a hub-and-spoke airline can be? You have to start somewhere. Middle of the country bill from there. I think what the airlines at least the big three are going for is trying to maintain as much service to all of their destinations as possible on the most efficient way for them to do that is to basically flow over their largest hubs. You know you already see it with American schedule in. May you know a lot of routes Breath CIDER AT CRANKY. Flier looked at a lot of routes going to just stop the DFW. And I think that's what we're going to see at United as well with the focus on Denver Chicago and now this out to say Newark in San Francisco aren't even Houston are key hobbs. I mean they will come back. It's just mind the impression I got. Those aren't going to be the first places. I think I would disagree. I think they're big revenue it's Those COME BACK BEFORE CHICAGO DENVER RAMP UP IN CHICAGO DENVER's pretty much been pushed by Competition Yeah but see the key in Chicago in San Francisco. Newark is the Internet is partially the international feed if international feed it takes longer to get back come back those are going to be a either will be demand for some nonstop. But you're not gonNA have the level of service that you had pre pre code. I would argue that. International demand will return faster than domestic. Because we just had like this domestically interesting because I added this morning said exactly the opposite. That doesn't mean there. It could go either way. I'm not betting on one way or the other but Yeah Yeah I was. I was I'd say I was on that call as well in heard the same thing you did. Net which basically said they expect short-haul to go Comeback Faster that people are GonNa holiday close to home where they know they can get home if something you know. If there's a resurgence of a breakout or something But at the same time I wonder how much of that applies to Europe. Asia versus the United States. Is there a difference globally in that context? And it's a great question south. I didn't get into it but that would be really nice to know. Is I think that is? That's a good question. Yeah at Albany answer for that. What do you think having aside? Mahogany right. There's also an aspect of business right and that's where all the revenue comes from. That's really what's GonNa Push. What comes back I right and I think if if we're going on based on that I would put. Sfo headed Newark. Just because you've got such the large tech presence there already. I don't know if you saw the story came over the weekend. United already looking at. There's a way for them to resume Shanghai San Francisco Service and my understanding is. That's coming at the pressure of some of the large corporates therein in the area that went back into China as their supply chains. Rebuilt whether they'll be able to do that to see a sea it will have its own distinct. Make the decision on. That is another story. But you're right. I mean if if the businesses there the TECH COMPANIES WANNA Travel San Francisco will definitely come back. While the eventually have your. If you're an I agree I think age is GonNa come back before Europe. Simply because the timeline of how this all evolved but Europe is less of an upstart for an error so much closer to run smart lanes. Now definitely yeah. You're I mean they so many reasons why I think it's going to be later than Asia but yeah I agree with you there Keeping on the idea of what these future airlines look like the other aspect of it is not just where they're gonNA fly. But what are they? GonNa Fly Net I know you've covered a little bit. We've talked a little bit about this. Otherwise on the show. But what are the fleet's GonNa look like are we have? We seen the end. We truly seen the end of the same five seven and seven six seven in the United States. Like are these planes really done? I mean it's looking more and more like it. Americans done with seven five seven. Seven six sevens. But that's nothing new. We knew that they were ready to get rid of those United last week said the seven five sevens if they retire. Plano I to go and a seven six seven second after that so I think it's I think it's likely we're going to see. At least a seven five seven united Delta will probably be the laggard there. But we're GONNA see a lot of this week's decimated for myself a child of the nineties like I remember seven five. Seven was the plane to fly across the everywhere. You go I mean I'm GonNa miss it I- this could be the crisis that doesn't yeah before I was FG. Can I was just a kid you know flying for whatever I had to do is have vivid memories of this thought process of if you walk down the jet bridge and it went uphill instead of downhill. That was good news. Because you're getting on a seven fifty seven little call her and Wiley. As a ten year old I started to realize that and that was one of the early on thoughts I had about how this whole night game worked and what what I was looking up against but yeah I have that memory of how much fun they were back as it did when they were flying. So much domestic. Yeah and even as this planes disappeared. Sorry jump back. Like I think we're gonNA see regionals especially the large regional jets are going to continue to play a large role in Networks 'cause you know they're they're cheap defy their lines are gonna Max go clause as much as they can and keep flying those seventy sixteen jets so those are going to come back if if you ask me. So real. Quick for lesser scope clause is the limit of how many regional planes can be flown under the mainline brand and it's to protect jobs for the mainline pilots that are generally speaking hourly more expensive but to that point net a lot of the scope clause rules are based on fleet size so if the main lines are retiring so many of their larger planes. Don't they have to cut scope are cut regional jets to to? I'm thinking memory of scope clauses. I've gone through them a few times. It's been years. Americans is the most directly tied to the percentage of the mainline narrow body fleet. I believe Delta's a hard cap but I'm not one hundred percent sure to Delta can fly a whatever their cap is I forget the number now. United is definitely a ratio with the hard cap again. I don't know what the ratio yeah. I just remember that the reason we have the five fifty s because united ordered a bunch. More seventy seaters than that was like. Oh Crap we've got all these old CR j seven hundreds and we gotta do something with them. Yeah and converted them to fifty seaters in so any united United Different for fifty sixty seventy seaters. Also right they're allowed something. Inflict Ninety percent of the mainline fleet in terms of fifty seats. So they've I wrote once wrote that they could operate unlimited fifty seaters and got a note from the Union. So yeah it's not unlimited but it's almost unlimited. Yeah I just. That's just really interesting thing about that and we've also seen. I mean we've been talking mostly about the US carriers but like Lufthansa today announced. It's scaling back. Its fleet permanently and accelerating retirement of like a couple of everything race. I think it's six eighties. Seven three four six three three four threes and five seven four force at some weird like that you know calling them inefficient and uneconomical which is cool but also they're keeping some of all of those planes in their fleet which surprised me. I think I would think economies of scale it would make more sense to get rid of maybe two types entirely instead of a couple types across fleets. But you know. I'm not sitting in Luke. Tom Does executive suite so sure. What the decision making rationale is there? We've gotta get you better moles to get. Yes and we're coming. It could just be tied to meeting scheduled. Right major overhauls coming. Why not just deprecate the plane rather than if you just finished referred it. Yeah and that's that's fair. I know the three eighty s that are being retired slated for retirement in two thousand twenty two anyways sort of back similar to the American seven. Five seven seven. Six is right I think Qantas has said that. At least initially it will bring back the three eighty that were retrofit but not the others. Yeah yeah so I and I to be honest you know. All of this is still very uncertain. I think the things that have been announced as definitely not coming back. We should expect too old but the things that have been announced as are coming back is should be taken as maybes definitely and I think one of the caveats that a lot of people at least that have been responding me online. Forget is some of the newer planes a lot of them were financed with debt at the US airlines and so they can't easily get rid of those so think of the triple seven three hundred eighty hours any united. You know pretty much. All of those are financed with bonds and basically they've got to pay those bonds for the next twelve years whether they fly the plane not so it makes more sense to hold onto. This plane's than even if it's bigger than the demand is that it was to hold onto a plane that they payments on it's always very challenging Situation for the airline can terms of figuring out what the cost is to operate the differences services. Th Right Speaking Airlines moving on now. I think we've we've got killed that one. I think there's some interesting drama in terms of fleet renewal right now. Still in Europe. Easyjet has an order for about one hundred eighty three twenty on the books with deliveries expected to start III. There were slated for later this year or early next year over the next four to five years and That has their founder. Who IS Still owns like thirty percent of the company. I think Stelios Haji Jahiu. We'll go with He's a Greek-cypriot guy who founded airline. He is really pissed like angry as hell sending nasty nasty letters to the board of directors demanding that they cancelled this order He's basically said based on how much cash we have on hand and the cost of these planes which is four and a half billion. I assume at list but based on the numbers that may be actually four and a half billion real outlet necessary That the airline is going to go bankrupt if it actually tried to take delivery on all those and it needs to cancel the orders and he wants them to use the force majeure clause to say were out and not have to pay penalties also. And what's awesome about it? Is He keeps threatening to have members of the board of directors replaced until he gets what he wants. So I think it's interesting. He's pushing to completely cancel the order. Because at this point in time you know. I'm sure Airbus will do bend over backwards to keep up operator. Easyjet in the fold you know postponing deliveries putting off pre delivery payments. Some kind of package that would give the airline time probably more than a year to take those aircraft so it's over the top to say they have to cancel. It's it's all or nothing. Yeah it's I mean what could I couldn't negotiating. Sorry he goes cheating with what are we. We're blessed through the public this way. Yeah absolutely You know we see airlines all the time using the media to negotiate for better terms from a manufacturer. Delta did that several years ago Three fifty but I definitely agree that he's probably some some combination of negotiating tactic. I think if interest in the board probably something to do with the leadership of airline to I would imagine but say yeah. I did see an amusing comment the other day. Someone said that the the smartest fleet planning decision United Airlines is made in the last decade was delaying. The three fifty's again goes off from it. You know five years from now when they're ready to use them or whatever it is right. Pat. That's a that's a good way to look at it. I mean obviously. They didn't plan for any of this. And it's not good but it is good in that right I just I have you guys should check out the letters. He's been sending he like. The tone in them is zero bullshit all. You guys aren't listening to me. I still in the largest shareholder ignoring me. I'm going to start calling for elections and last night. I was only going to replace one person every seven weeks. Now I'm going to start to replace to And he's naming names which directors he wants replaced. It's insane yeah. It's exciting to be president. I I. He's not an American citizen. It naturally born in. Can't I don't know Did either of you guys get caught up in the latest Marriott data-breach not that I not that I know of Emailed me or do I log into my counter. They said they were emailing everybody. About five million members had Information compromised by they say it was users that were authorized to be in the system or two accounts that were authorized to be in the system at a hotel property but were slurping far more data than they should have so it's unclear if they were What sort of inappropriate behavior? They were conducting basically five point two million members data compromise. Why would you ever let end? Hotel have full access to your data set. Well it wasn't soulful access but it was far more than it should have been. I agree with you that that's a terrible choice in design i. I did think there was some irony in the back. That Along those lines back when they originally orig- The last time they got hacked and it was a much bigger deal. They blamed Starwood for Insana better with soon at avert never happened if it was Marriott deal and now it has Struggled innovates accenture. Ibm chess in both cases. Yeah why wouldn't you hold your vendor responsible? I mean hold them responsible. How they they'll force. Ibm to pay for the Bullshit Credit monitoring services for everybody for a year. You're responsible because it's happening on their watch and they own. They are responsible for the infrastructure. What's the penalty. Fire Him? I you either that that would be one thing. For starters rate because the IT'LL end up happening is they'll likely get concessions with the end of the day which no one ever sees any benefits. The company right now. Is that really fair to the users getting data compromised? Yeah and I I just comes to more of we have zero Personal Data Protection in the United States. I actually wonder how many of them were European members. And if they're GONNA get judy. Pr Screwed on that or California. That's right there's the new California yeah you gotTa Love California leading the way in consumer protection in this country. Unless you're an airline saw airlines were like actually Deregulation Act says. We don't have to listen to you off. I missed that but yeah I'm not so many words but quite frankly and in so many words it was. They literally were like. Yeah actually. This doesn't apply to us. Sorry you can see that but I- chances are the end they will have to comply. Just like T. Mobile's trained that tactic with sprint. Merger where your local laws don't apply to mandate from the federal. I would dare. They're going to lose that. Yeah well it'll be interesting on the airline perspective. I don't know which law specifically the t Mobil one is going for. But the stuff with the airlines they've been pretty successful over the years With one or two exceptions I wanna say that like alcohol. Service rules on the ground will apply even the airplanes but like in New Mexico. I WANNA say didn't use Airways lose its liquor license in New Mexico or something like that a few years back Forgot to renew it in so pre departure beverages on the flights to Santa Fe. Weren't available or something Albuquerque. It was like some weird nuance like that. They'll get tripped up. Is the airport because the airport is technically federal ground right and so as long as you have to process data at the airport you'll be liable interesting. That's an interesting. Yeah I mean. We'll we'll have to see how it goes. I don't know if anyone's bother to try to bring a suit against any of them yet for that. So that's the and this is a great Amadou that by the way senior deal because the airlines don't have anything else going on it'll it'll go further than would otherwise because they had their butts were focused on other things interesting and don't have time to die. You don't have to buy you off anymore. Some fun new routes I know in the past week or so. There's been a lot of talk about the The cares act the two trillion dollar funding from the US government to keep the US airlines. And you know the whole rest of the economy and service and so the twenty whatever billion dollar payroll grants for. Us Airlines is tied to them keeping service to all of their existing destinations Significantly lower frequencies required but still have to keep service going and Alaska Airlines I think has thus far taken perhaps the most creative approach to that and I think Nettie tweeted about this this morning They're doing some not quite trying routes which is what I expected but some out and backs with a pit stop. You know I actually love what Alaska's doing it's I think it's A. It's a efficient way when you've got ten percent load factors Will cities but it's it's really backed the future for them if you look back at Alaska's old expansion to the lower forty eight in the early nineteen eighties. They did a lot of stuff were they. They flew Seattle like they went to Burbank. But it was Seattle Portland Burbank. And when they went to Palm Springs they've Seattle San Francisco Palm Springs. You know so. It's a bit Back in the future with these routes going like Seattle Pittsburgh. Baltimore and stuff yeah. I was really amused by that. The only thing that surprises me is that they're not just going straight home to Seattle from the end making making them a triangle but I guess they pick the cities where they think being stopping cities where they think they have the better traffic round trip. Some of them are. Yeah not all of them but there are some that are triangle than there are some that all the way through all the way back. Okay so I think it will really. I think it's based on demand. I'm bummed. They didn't do a JFK tag on to Newark or vice versa. Remember goes back in the eighties Western needs to do a DCA Dulles on the Salt Lake City Author. That was nice. I unfortunately for you is under the DOT rules. New York City is considered a location. So they don't have to serve. Both are all three airports they can get away with just anyone but but right. Mexico running fights about JFK and Newark though that stupid speaking of the coterminous against him surprising they're actually doing Baltimore. Then because Baltimat- I thought Baltimore Dallas and DCA also considered a single terminal area. Caviar y continued. Even there they are. You're right well. Are they from the dot standpoint or coach right now the dot? And I pulled the list of the DOT. This is one of the weird things about the cares act and the DOT guidance on it they actually the received a of pushback from smaller airports like Akron. Saying if you do this everybody's just GONNA fly to Cleveland and we get screwed and the whole point was to make sure that everybody keeps service. And so you're going to see you know. This sucks for us And there are a couple of airports did similarly the in Virginia is one also newport. News and Norfolk. Gay Chen some right. Yeah so but which is what. I'd never thought of. But the the list of the Metro areas and like the Court of New York New Jersey pro objected to doing it. Not because they wanted to make sure all three of their airports were served but because it was too confusing list and DOT's response was. Yeah you're right it's confusing. Everybody knows what's why but we've been tracking three things this way forever with the Bureau of Transportation's statistics. And that's all we know. And that's what we're sticking with and so if you go back and you look at the list actually. The list from the from department transportation includes like all sorts of small private airports. Also but the list. I'm just pulling up your second. Read it off. There's the Boston. Metro area includes Logan naturally and then Manchester in Providence but not The not the one up here by me which is Port Smith which is interesting because Portsmouth is included as part of the. Oh ask on all the. Ota's yeah Cleveland and Akron or together Burbank. Lax Long Beach Ontario in Orange County are all considered L. A. Area Fort Lauderdale. Miami are considered the Miami area but palm. Beach is exempted. The New York City area includes Newark White Plains islip JFK Laguardia Stewart Up In newburgh Norfolk and Newport News Davenport and Quad Cities Illinois in Davenport Iowa and Moline Illinois. So why the hell that's declared. I have no idea but it is. That must be some old dated lists from the DOT. Because I think they're only served by one commercial airport at this point anyway. There's probably some private airport. Yeah WELL IS DAVENPORT. Still Open or not. You think it's done. I HAVE NO IDEA. I thought it was all circle. The mulling quad cities or Moline Quad. City is the main one but the fact that it still looks like someone declared it that way as bizarre to me. San Francisco is San Francisco Oakland San Jose but not Sacramento Saint Petersburg Tampa both count and then. Bwi IN DALLAS. Yeah Yeah I mean so given that I don't know why Alaska even bother keeping the Baltimore out in it. Means seems like an extra unnecessary step in when he could just do your DC eight flights and cover that Metro area by. I hadn't considered that must have legitimate traffic great. Maybe they do have some traffic in traffic driving support that they must but I can't see why they would keep flying it if if they didn't well we one thing we've learned over time as you can't apply logic with their lines true yeah The one other thing I want to talk about is the That'll say anything. Find out at Davenport's I think that major spin up vestige that I got suckered into including my list. I'm GonNa Nice Little Terminal wikipedia events Status Extensions we've seen over the weekend the US slash north. America finally caught onto this idea. Of maybe we'll give everybody a free year of status It could started previously in Asia and in Europe. Mostly with programs that had count Had Rolling Twelve Months expert? Now it's calendar year Delta went I did so for airlines in in the Americas have announced at Delta United Alaska Air Canada and all of them are giving you your whatever your status was for another year but each of them did something a little different beyond that. And I think that's really what's interesting to me to talk about so Delta said any points you earn in Twenty Twenty will also count for Twenty Twenty One. United Cut Qualification in half for twenty twenty one. Alaska is doing everything you earned pre Before April thirtieth rolls over to twenty twenty one again and Air Canada is doing whatever you are in twenty if you had already qualified or a rolling over we'll let you gift that status to a third party Just like interesting mix of options. I'm not sure which one I like the best. Yes But it's really interesting. Mix of everyone has its benefits in my mind. Yeah I think it's way too early to be grandfathered status already. We're not even at the halfway mark for the year and you're actually disincentivising people from traveling back half of the year side. I tend to agree with you. I Would Alaska Airlines by the way the other thing they did and I just had to check my notes if you had started a status match anytime after December first. So you're within your challenge period when the shit hit the fan here They just are giving it to you. You're considered a successful and you get it through twenty twenty one. That one I think is smart a lot of ways because those were people who were trying to bring you new business and you're saying yes we love you. Please continue durant when he had the chance but father. I tend to agree with you that it's too early to act on the flipside of listening to a seminar this morning That had to Leg Program former program Directors on it Dave who is run jet blue and I H G the hotel and Mark Smith who has ryan the Malaysia Airlines enrich program and. They actually disagree on this topic Mark is more or less on with you me saying it's too soon you don't have to do it now. No need to waste that goodwill yet dave candies comment and I specifically asked you know. Is it too early? Should you know why are you acting now? His comment was more along. The lines of we know at this point based on both what's happened in what the forecast looks like the twenty twenty right off. We know it's gone. Why not set at ease? Those members and I'm not entirely convinced but I understand where he's coming from. It's you know it's like a game of poker even if you're no it's a writer why admits to basically anyone who values status or anymore know. I was already halfway to requalify for one K. If I needed right I would have easily done that. The latter half of the year. And so now you've just disincentivize who are already at that point. Where were you on? The Path can recover very quickly. So you've in essence shot yourself in the foot by saying well. You don't eat defy so people say I need to fly based on the added security? Hit it even before the half required but I would have hit. Jesus man you fly too much. Yeah I mean as as someone who doesn't fly as much as I mean I'm excited about these half requirements. I might I'm definitely GONNA keep flying united when I start flying again and maybe I'll even make a higher status than I otherwise would have so I mean it it definitely incentivizes me to keep going for it when whenever I get back in the air. I do think it's interesting that both Delta and Delta Air Canada made specific moves. That do try to create value for later this year into next year. They're trying to more of a longterm play right. That's the grant status to a friend thing that Air Canada's doing which presumably is good for current traffic. They keep that current member flying. Keep you know. Avoid the dalliance with Westjet or whoever else it might be and next year. They've got an extra legal bar Which obviously has some servicing costs by is also someone who maybe were. Maybe we're not going to be an elite anyways now you're sort of maintaining the levels in the ranks that you wanted. I could see that being good news. Delta's doing one hundred percent rollover of everything so you can potentially See some people that are going to make their diamond. Ranks are likely to be somewhat inflated in Twenty twenty two but is that really a risk this. I feel like it's a good problem to have. Yeah I agree with you. I think I mean I think it's good because you're going to hold onto some traffic especially when it's going to traffic will be lower next year. We don't know how much lower but yet you're gonNA hold onto some passengers. Yeah the counter to that. Of course as united's approach which is half qualification. Now you've got your year and we'll give you extra will extend your Plus points formerly known as systematic upgrades. And give you extra access to the skip the line upgrade option. So you know if you're willing to spend a lot of extra maybe we'll give it a little easier for you. Which I feel like is a tone deaf move. Yeah I'd be with. I just like yes. We're GONNA make upgrades easier and better for. Oh that's great. Only if you're willing to pay double come on is like thinks that the business traffic is going to be the first to return to people are gonNA be Chomping at the bit to pay for those seats but I. I don't necessarily think it'll be the first return but would be soon as it starts to pick up. That's what they're going to need it. Because that's where the revenue it's fair fair That's all I got on my list of topics that you guys WanNa talk about anything else. I'd love to guys but I gotta go. I got a kid here in in. He's Begging for my attention and he's walking now isn't a cash. It's great and it's scary at the same time but yeah right. We'll give him a hug and kiss from the team. network. When we find you online you can find me on twitter at at E. Underscore Russell R. U. S. S. E. L. L. That's the best way to follow me. Awesome and you can follow. That's destinations on twitter at DOTS LINES OR MORE DODDS MORE LINES DOT com. You can throw some beer money on our Patriot account and on the off chance that we actually got an episode completed early like we're supposed to get access to it before the rest of the world and on that note have a great trip take care take care bye guys.

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"Roosevelt's new deal remade America and millions want a green new deal to do it again all great American programs everything from great society to the new deal started with a vision for our future and to get to the first new deal to massive strikes. I think we're seeing the beginning and have that realization watermelon green on the outside deep deep red communist on the inside Roosevelt himself never had any interest in challenging basic elements of a capitalist economy interest groups who are allied with fossil fuels. Those are kind of driving a wedge between what the public wants on climate change and what our politicians and their staff think that the public wants. I don't want you to listen and to me I want you to listen to the scientists. There's more coming up after this on the media supported by indeed dot Com. 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This is on the media yeah I'm Bob Garfield and I'm Brooke Gladstone and this is the sound of Foley Square in downtown Manhattan Friday not far from our offices the epicenter center of a worldwide climate stripe lead improbably perhaps but solidly by millions of students the sixteen year old Swedish activist Greta ton ver- who sailed across the Atlantic to ramp up pressure ahead of the United Nations Climate Action Action Summit took the lead in the last week testifying before Congress and rallying young activists. I'm urging all of you to take part in the global climate strikes on September twentieth and twenty seven and just one last thing see you on the streets in the US strikers are arrayed in support of a House resolution introduced in February by Representative Alexandria Cossio Cortez and Senator Ed markey known by most as the green new deal or as Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Let's see dubbed it last year the Green Dream or whatever to which AOC replied no. I think it is a dream it is it is Dan Dan and I think that all great American programs everything from the Great Society to the new deal started with a vision for our future share like FDR's wide ranging government response to the Great Depression called the new deal the green new deal also puts employment and Economic Equality Fronton Center. There are other echoes of the thirties as well in the form of collective action depression era sit down strikes aches are mirrored by the youth led sunrise movement which organized a sit in at Pelosi's office demanding democratic debate and action. If you don't know what sunrise is we are building an army of young people to stop the climate crisis and create millions of jobs for our generation in the process yeah back here. That's Chigney precaut- sunrise co-founder at a conference called designing the green new deal held in Philadelphia last week but wait why jobs the way in which the jobs versus environment fight has been set up largely by elites who tend to have no skin in the game and are the ones profiting off of that has been hurting us for decades dates and so this hour we'll be addressing how the issues of climate change and economic inequality one seen as distinct in even in conflict have for this generation come to overlap and the response reverberates with the echoes of economic injustice of time long ago but never gone in recent years strikes have seen a resurgence public schools across the state of West Virginia or closed again today as a massive teachers strike enters day nine making it the longest in the state's history in two thousand eighteen teachers strike spread across half a dozen states and then thousands of Mary workers are on strike in San Francisco Oakland San Jose in other cities across the country. The workers say they're demanding livable wages so they don't have to work several jobs to pay the bills as I read this another is on the horizon of hospital and medical workers union organizers have said that as many as eighty thousand in Kaiser employees nationwide could go on strike in October if a deal isn't reached soon and GM contract negotiations have already broken down the union auto workers started gathering around midnight at this Detroit General Motors plant and others like it across the country Wannabe Leap Eighth Valley we make quality cars and we want quality. The strike comes after GM's two thousand fifteen labor deal with the union expired Saturday over faultlines ranging from wages to healthcare coverage. We stood up for GM when they needed us. You deserve a fair contract because we we've helped make this company what it is at the height of the great recession. GM got an eleven billion dollar bailout. Everyone seemed to be taking their lumps to save the company. Workers Negotiated Gauthier said a contract that allowed for two tier system new workers would earn less than the older ones for the same work after GM brought in record profits last year the time of shared sacrifice would appear to be over night. All work has stopped at more than Fifty General Motors factories and warehouses more than forty eight thousand workers are on strike. That's the first against GM in twelve years like they did this week. During the previous period of depressed labor conditions G. GM workers left the Assem. What observers described as the most brutal battle in the medical labor history involving nearly one hundred thousand men as practically shut down the entire American industry anger swelled well into the Roosevelt administration and over a year after workers around the country had earned the right to collectively bargain Lamar's Mars Iowa stormcenter of the farmer's revolt is under martial law as national guardsmen seek the ringleaders of the mob that took judge Bradley from this courthouse and threatened to hang him unless he swore he would sign no more mortgage foreclosures now? Here's where the existential parallels between then and now are manifest. It wasn't wasn't just that American farmers were poor their demands on the land had made the once great plains poor to the land hatch marked by railways railways and homesteads denuded by deep ploughing of native grasslands had turned the topsoil into black billowing clouds of dust and so five years into the Great Depression as historian. Jill Lepore has written quote farm families displaced by debt and drought wandered wandered westward carrying what they could in dust cover jalopy's the experiment in democracy that had begun with American independence seemed on the very the edge of defeat but in March nineteen thirty-three a new president offered remedies for the nation symptom by system in May nineteen seventy-three a new chapter was written in American public policy an act was passed creating the Tennessee Valley Authority was to control nature not by the frying as in the wasteful past by understanding and harnessing in the service service of humanity by to the communities which they serve thousands of miles of highway is constructed and improve the program to address worker unrest came the fair fair Labor Standards Act of nineteen thirty eight and before the National Labor Relations Act bomb bargain collectively with an organized majority you bet workers and here's another potential link from the past to the present the increasingly effective call to collective action because though conventional wisdom says that Roosevelt bestowed workers with voice is yet another new deal remedy an Elixir from the Oval Office Jane mcalevey Alevi Writer and Longtime Labor organizer explains that that's not how it happened. That's a little upside down when American workers won the National Oh Labor Relations Act that was because in one thousand nine thirty three and nineteen thirty four in the beginning of nineteen thirty five American workers waged waged extraordinary many general strikes all over the United States to put the kind of pressure on FDR to give American workers the right to pull up as legal equals to the bargaining table with their employers that was not given on high from FDR in fact a lot of the profound changes during the civil rights movement happened for the same reason we have the tapes that show President Johnson on the phone with Martin Luther King will do my best to get other men to do likewise and I'll have to have y'all's help ever needed more. I do now where you know you have it and feel free breed. You better go create a lot of holy. Hell down there on the south so that I have been ability to do it. That's exactly what was happening in the nineteen thirties in the new deal when FDR took over he did a bunch of other things that were urgent and important the civilian Conservation Corps the Works Progress Administration. I mean there's a very long list of things that happened. In the first hundred days. The National Ashley Relations Act was not in the first hundred days it was one thousand nine hundred eighty five in the summer two years into it right and it happened as a result of workers standing up for themselves and creating creating a crisis through massive strikes but in the years since the new deal we've seen labor decline in prominence I mean starting with the Taft Hartley Act right in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven which restricted the activities and the power of the unions you have right to work laws which undermine the very structure of the unions so why are we seeing all these strikes now I think you're seeing the strikes now because we are at the same level full of grotesque income inequality that we were in during the Great Depression due at twenty five percent of America unemployed in nineteen thirty ready to what's similar and different in twenty eighteen when the strikes began in two thousand nineteen and heading into two thousand twenty in this crucial year is that we definitely have twenty five percent as an index of misery. It's that corporations are more sophisticated today. So it's not rampant unemployment it's rampant underemployment and what American workers transformed in the auto plants in nineteen thirty six in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven by walking out in massive strikes were conditions that look a lot like the average Amazon warehouse job. Today workers are paid substandard wages. Don't get bathroom. Breaks workers are working two jobs two and a half jobs just to keep up and try and pay the bills and that level of frustration is hitting a wall in this country right now. I have to ask you though again. Y strikes given the state of the Union's in fact you've noted that the word strike itself is on the rise yeah the strike that really began all of the strikes were seeing was in some ways the very bold action taken by the Teachers in Chicago in twenty twelve the first. I really big strike in decades negotiations with Public School officials now entering a second day mayor Rahm Emanuel saying teachers are making the wrong choice to strike with three hundred and fifty thousand students paying the ultimate price and that strike kind of reawakened a lot of people that began to do what organizers called raising the expectations of American Arcand Workers and teachers that they could fight and win and demand more and they did in Chicago. Many people at the time were talking about how they were overpaid paid spoiled brats and so on and yet the public did seem to stand with them when we were talking about what happened from Taft Hartley until now Ronald Ronald Reagan comes in essentially fires twelve thousand striking workers in the early nineteen eighties to letting Americans know you go on strike. You're going to get fired. They are in violation of the law and if they do not report for work within forty eight hours they have forfeited their jobs and will be terminated and that really brings down strike activity for the next twenty five years or so there had been this narrative for thirty years that the public wouldn't stand with people when they went on strike and got fired so when they're Chicago Chicago strike happened and you saw the outpouring of support it began to re raise workers expectations that hey even though they feel really beaten down they actually have a lot of public support and when you fast forward to West Virginia there were the first ones to walk out in this new era of all the strikes were seeing when I interviewed a lot of those workers one they had met fish teachers they actually went to find them and seek them out and to to the place where a lot of the met was the twenty six teen Sanders campaign and if you look in West Virginia he won every single county and a lot of these young teachers went trump one set themselves wait a minute. We built an amazing movement. What are we going to do now and then right at that moment the state legislature I just later in West Virginia announced that they were going to take huge cuts? They're going to have to pay two hundred to four hundred dollars more per month of their healthcare and they were going to get a one percent raise and and they said that's it we're out of here and they began to do real grassroots organizing work teacher to teacher bus driver teacher and when they walked out it was everyone I mean they were drawing on the history of the United mine workers were drawing on a proud working class tradition in West Virginia but they have now set ablaze the whole country a string of workers walking off the job and winning in the education sector than in against the Marriott hotels that again stop and shop this spring enabled the General Motors workers to say forget it what Max in action of victorious action and how it activists apply it to get the public into the street it over climate change policy. What does it take in this moment to tackle the largest crisis? There is the most important weapon that workers have the ability to withdraw their labour and walk off the job strategic disruption in strategic sectors in strategic geographies geographies and by the way where the General Motors workers are going on strike is basically a map of the electoral swing states. We've got the American working class into an embracing. The Green Green new deal and the way to do that is to guarantee not just a good job. There's a different set of words we have to us and we have to specifically say to the American worker her you will hold the exact standard that you have working in the fossil fuel sector right now in the clean economy sector and to do now that we've got a flip. The American taxpayer subsidies currently going to the fossil fuel industry to subsidize the jobs in the livelihood of workers in a clean in a comedy and we've got to talk about that really honestly and then build the power shift though subsidies does the movement have to address the issue that strikes strikes and this redistribution of wealth and these huge government programs are fundamentally anti-capitalist right. If we turn on Fox News News the green new deal. It's a watermelon green on the outside deep deep red communist on on the inside you hear the same language that we heard during McCarthy period already but what we need to keep focused on is what is it we're trying to do. We're trying to to create a new new deal and to get to the first new deal took massive strikes to get to a new new deal so that life on this planet can continue continue and flourish means. We're GONNA need a second wave of massive strikes and I think we're seeing the beginning of that realization part of why I'm entering Mr Betas because I spent my first ten years as an organizer running environmental campaigns and then I shifted into the Trading Movement fulltime and I've Long said to people full of the problem in the American progressive movement is that I as an organizer 'em either working for your mental movement or I'm working for trade unions and the green new deal is the time to say these are not two different movements for American workers children to grow up in a healthy environment in this country. It's GonNa take American workers workers walking off the job the way we did in nineteen thirty three and nineteen thirty four and nineteen thirty five and forcing employers to the negotiating table to create a different kind of an economy in this country Jane Jane thank you very much thank you. It was a pleasure being here. Jane mcalevey is a fellow at the University of California at Berkeley Labor Center and and author of a collective bargain unions organizing and the fight for democracy due out in January coming up the politics takes of the deal new and newer this is on the media. I'm Clemmie Button Hill and I'm here to tell you about the openness protect the new podcast from WNYC studios WWCO Exhau- in which people share stories about the classical music that gets them through their lives. People like threat to San Mendez Musicians GIANBATTISTA and Wynton Marsalis goyal friends. I mean I'll do so and our very own Alec Baldwin Edwin. It's taught mix tape pot sonic love letter kind of like a daily musical journey and other human lives listen for free. Wherever you get your cost and sign up at Openness Project The oak doc this is on the media? I'm Brooke Gladstone and I'm Bob Garfield we think of the new deal in historical terms Komo monument of federal action almost universally understood to have rescued America from the Great Depression what the textbooks seldom dwell on is is the national politics of the day pitting the supporters of FDR against Wall Street big business conservatives far right religious figures naked anti-semites and those generally wary of creeping socialism as a prelude to communist totalitarianism and it got ugly early in very familiar ways Kim Phillips Fein is a historian at Nyu and author of invisible hands the businessman's crusade against against the new deal Kim welcome tm so having me as you look back at the contemporaneous arguments against deal you have isolated two main themes. What were those two basic accusations about what the new deal would wreak upon our society so one in line of argument against various parts the deal is that it represented a step towards totalitarianism and dictatorship that Roosevelt was setting himself up as a tyrant and was going to trounce the constitution and was going to nationalize property and was is going to end capitalism and bring in a very controlled economy going forward so this is one line of argument that you see coming from organizations like the American Liberty League for example which was a group of business leaders who got together in nineteen thirty four to start to mount both legal challenges the new deal and also to campaign publicly against it? The other is a sense that it wasn't going to be effective that the new deal wasn't ending the depression that that it was naive ill thought out badly planned instead of seeing it as this masterly power grab seeing it as kind of incompetent foolish and ineffective. Those arguments have an eerily familiar ring to them in the context of the green new deal. There was one commentator who did this broadside against the deal based on the fact that Alexandra Cossio Cortez is an unmarried childless barmaid and therefore is no person to entrust with this kind of responsibility but then you know in other commentary. There's also the subject of totalitarian level federal overreach. You've written that the new deal was in its essence emergency rescue operation to save capitalism from itself self. I think that was your phrase which in hindsight makes perfect sense but really knowing what we know about American politics. Is it any you wonder that the capitalists didn't want the government to budget who it's free markets in inject the public sector into private enterprise of course they said it was the path to totalitarianism. I think it's actually just important to remember. Both how severe the crisis was in nineteen thirty two when when Roosevelt was elected on employment was almost at a quarter of the population much higher in many cities. Thousands of banks were failing. It wasn't wasn't just that there was a an ideological attack on structures of property. You're capitalism. There was actually a real question about what was going to happen to the economy economy and how it could recover and I think this is part of why many business people were so anxious about the new deal though not necessarily fear mongering it was actual fear. I think it was actual. Fear Roosevelt himself never had any interest in challenging basic elements SUV capitalist economy but he was willing and the circumstances were such that it was possible to do things that actually did change change the balance of power in economic life in pretty profound ways and I think just just shouldn't be surprising that perch the new deal met with fierce resistance so two parts of the green a new deal are likely to meet with fierce resistance and the question is whether there will be political movements leaders mobilizations that are capable of countering that now are I scarcely needs to tell you this because this is like the whole Phillips fine deal but the history of federal regulation of business is the history of you've the sky is falling predictions about job loss and recession and so on Clean Air Act Clean Water Act Auto Safety Osha obamacare minimum wage you name it all we're going to tilt the playing field and ruin our economy did these arguments which by the way as far as I can tell have never been borne out by reality. Did they begin in the thirties or was there a precedent for them. Even then arguments have been circulating around since the late nineteenth century century people like William Graham Sumner and Andrew Carnegie arguing that the efforts to use government will wind up hurting ordinary people rather than helping them inadvertently and he's just let the market do its work but I think in a new charge in the thirties and in a way the thirties are the first time that there is is someone in Washington who builds a political career himself out of responding to and inspiring this political impulse else to find some way to even the economic playing field. Let's look at one of the pieces of legislation just to get the notion of what specifically the criticisms were. One of the early targets was in nineteen thirty three the Securities Act which tried to create some sort of protections for for investors. What was the policy exactly and what were the dire warnings that came from Wall Street? The effort was to mandate that any company that was issuing public securities had to publish and make available a range of information to investors this was happening in the wake of the Stock Market Crash of nineteen twenty nine and fraudulent reports that companies have been circling themselves so it was basically trying to mandate any company that was going to be selling stock had to release police honest information about its financial situation. The next year saw the creation of the Securities and Exchange Commission which was charged with circulating and guaranteeing this and the response from Wall Street was outraged terror a sense that the simple requests for information mation was breaching into the boardroom in ways that were heavy handed and controlling on the one hand and then also that it was going to frighten investors. There's a way and so would actually responsible for prolonging the depression the law in nineteen thirty four wound up quelling a lot of this partly partly because the first head of the SEC was Joseph Kennedy who was viewed as one of the Wall Street community and not somebody who is going to be no hostile Austin Force so at that point a lot of the resistance really died down how did Roosevelt and the Democrats answer the charges of Creeping Stalinism Alan Ism and Jewish overlords and the rest Roosevelt himself was always very insistent that what he was doing was in the interests of all Americans instead it was not intended to subvert democratic institutions but to preserve them that he was just bringing forward the promise of the country entry into a new era. The new deal actually also involve the active participation of many people across the country and kind of touched and transformed people's lives as either through direct relief from the state or through the employment that had offered or through the ways in which it transformed communities that saw a new public works being built the artistic creations that were funded by the federal government during the new deal. All of these things actually gave people a sense of new. Do L. being something that wasn't just imposed on them from outside but actually something that they were helping to build. Also the Organization of unions during the new deal was another way in which people actually a actively participating in building a new kind of social economic order Kim. Thank you very much Kim. Phillips Fein is a historian at New York University and author of invisible hands. The businessman's crusade against the deal coming out when it comes to climate change research finds that Congress doesn't get with Gen Z. He wants Gen X. Wants what the boomers want either. This is on the media on the media is supported by zoom. Zoom is used by millions to connect face to face across town or around the world zoom mm ties together all of your unified communication tools into one easy platform for videoconferencing phone calls group Chat Webinars and conference rooms Zuma's how business gets done visit visit zoom online to set up your free account today meet happy with Zoom. This is on the media. I'm Brooke Gladstone and I'm Bob Garfield. NYU Historian Kim Phillips Fein told me that one of the ways President Roosevelt built support for the new deal was by speaking directly to the American people all through a nascent highly intimate medium called radio is cozy broadcasts recalled fireside chats friend and I want to talk for a few minutes with the people of the United States about banking. He was quite charismatic in his Ivanka away on the radio. Is it naive and simplistic to suggest that Alexandria a Cossio Cortez is instagram account is the new fireside. I saw what was what was doing was trying to create a sort of personal relationship solidarity and I think she's doing something similar. I think this generation is very profound and very strong and very brave because they're actually willing to go to the streets about that. A recent study by the Yale Program Grandma Climate Change Communication found that young people are more concerned than their elders on the subject and are more likely to contact a government official about global warming and why are millennials and Gen Z. taking up the cost so actively well like the sixties protesters who agitated against the Vietnam War they are most at risk and it will get worse and so I think that is why so many young people especially care about the sixteen year old Gretchen Berg from Sweden in the past four years tune Burg who has mild autism has helped drive this youth climate it movement. She's repeatedly called out world leaders for their climate inaction and she's not alone her see I make climate justice activists in Minneapolis Minnesota Oughta climate activists that is Israel Hersi another sixteen year old and the daughter of Democratic Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar Hersi brings not only her DNA to the movement but particular experience and point of view. It's it's a lot to be a young person environmental movement only because in in the organizations that I've worked with don't reflect HERC- founded the US youth climate strike in January which like the zero hour sunrise movements have enjoyed a high profile L. and major digital platforms and legacy media which not only expands the reach of their messages but also validates them for older generations but but in a sort of climate code switching they're also fixtures in social media where the idiom is very very different eight fellow humans listen up because on September twentieth some stuff's about to go down. We have one more chance to turn climate change around because in less than ten years the damage we're doing to our planet will become irreversible what on instagram teen influencers Tim's up to encourage millions of followers to join in Friday strikes and strike for our oceans and strike for each other. She tells me half a very short amount of time to turn this crisis around. If you're twenty other instagram accounts like climb meam change range with forty four thousand followers joke ironically about the end of life on earth share gift filled primer on the green new deal and throw shade on the complacent hostile Karnik. I'll do everything yourself around here picking up human trash show them how it's done here. One two in the Duma healthy Nikki getting involved says the intercepts Kate Aaronow has become fashionable with some degree of amazement and confusion. She's been following a team called VISCO. Vs Co girls a suddenly emerging strategy of middle and high schoolers who affect a very particular look to project common cause with the planet the line between who cool kids are and like what a visco girl is in two thousand nineteen nineteen is a thin line. That's sort of an aesthetic they wear birkenstocks crocks and socks Puka. Shell necklaces oversized is t shirts metal Straw. They're part of it. there's an affinity for turtles hydro flask reusable water bottles. There's a late in I'm kind of environmental consciousness in it's a bit of a fad a bit of Whimsey and a bit of Ernest nece and the name comes from an APP photo editing ABC INVESCO but it exists on different platforms instagram a little bit on twitter. One of the mistakes talk if twitter is a mini blog tick tock is sort with the mini YouTube. They're very short user generated videos. One tick tock video has been shared a Gra jillion times. You must be known this but you don't have. How do you make your French bracelets? Damn that's kind of weird while the Turtles Oh these these are just my strategy. Is You keep that don't even worry about it skills in terms of like Bisco girls on tech talk. There's this it's like incredible amount of self awareness about the fact that this is very silly. Everyone seems to be sort of making fun and just making these videos. I'm still I'm really into saving the turtles those lately so I got a medal Straw. You don't have one. I'll have the Osei e Boland box water. Please your Stroz army to five state are they. I I think it would be easy to compare this till valley. Girls who nine hundred eighty s and there is temptation and a misogynist society to treat young women than the VISCO girls phenomenon. I'm an can bleed into that also think part of that masks over something very real things that are affecting people people who identified themselves as VISCO girls who I've talked to have said this girl's is a trend really is reflective of the fact that young people in general are concerned about the climate crisis. The folks folks I talk to they are organizing climate strike and themselves tins. They see this more than anything is kind of an organizing opportunity a movement. It hasn't really fully coalesced until large number of stakeholders have embraced it. It's easy to have fun with the notion of a little mean and this kind of odd collection in of participants. Is it evidence that climate activism has gone beyond the usual suspects. Does this mean it's going mainstream yeah. I think that's exactly right folks that I talked to. They've said when I was a freshman in high school for instance a someone who just graduated I was trying into activism and it was a strange thing to do. Activism was not popular whereas now after Donald Trump after parkland you have this co coming out and being a part of the movement and the way that many many other people are all sections joining up in the climate fight activist becoming pool young people are more active. The mobile is than maybe any other generation in history just yesterday speaking in congressional testimony the head of the zero hour the youth youth climate movement that is participating in the strike people call my generation generation Z. as if we have the last generation but we are not we are refusing to be the last letter of the alphabet. I'm here before the whole country today announcing that we're instead at generation John D. The generation of the green new deal the only thing that will save us a whole new era was pretty dark and a pretty spending way to think about your future and part of what the climate of men is really about is giving people a space for community and not feel just helpless about the potential end of the World Kate aaronow rights for the intercept tapped and is a fellow at the type media center. Thank you so much. Thank you so even the cool kids want to be involved in climate activism awesome or maybe climate activism is redefining what it means to be cool in the halls of Congress and in many newsrooms there are other less existential oh concerns and they fill the political ether with mixed and misleading messages. Leah's Stokes is a professor at the University of California at Santa Santa Barbara where she studies public opinion and political behavior with a focus on energy and climate change last year she co authored a study that told told us what you might have already suspected. Congress has no clue what Americans want so these are the chiefs of Staff and legislative slate of directors in Congress the people who helped their bosses decide how to vote on a bill and we ask them. What do you think the public wants on climate action an and they dramatically underestimated the public support? That's out there for acting on the climate crisis ninety two percent of the staff members is that you surveyed underestimated the support in their district or state including all Republican aides and over eighty five percent of the democratic aides AIDS and we actually show the more those offices are meeting with the American Petroleum Institute which is the Association of Fossil fuel companies. He's the more they're taking money from them. Relative to meeting with let's say environmental groups like the Sierra Club the worst job they do at guessing public opinion so it seems like interest groups who are allied with fossil fuels are kind of driving a wedge between what the public wants on climate change and what our politicians and their staff think think that the public wants research done by the Yale Project on Climate Change Communication which I am affiliated with they make these maps and they look at all these different policy areas and show what the public wants and the media has had a narrative politicians have had this narrative to the public public doesn't really care about climate change is not really an important issue and if you just go look at these amazing maps you can see that that's just not true so for example Oh they've just put out a new map about the proportion of people who think that fossil fuel companies should have to pay for the harm that they are already causing fifty seven percent of Americans a majority of Americans support that and then you can actually zoom into every single congressional district and figure out for example cross Arizona relatively conservative state people people support that across New Mexico they do. Why do you think the public feels this way in the absence of support from their politicians and their media area support for climate action has been high for a long time but in the past nine months we've seen a huge surge something like ten percentage points more people are worried about this? This reflects a number of things I last fall we had the IPC the intergovernmental for mental panel on Climate Change report come out which really showed that we have to make dramatic strides to cut our emissions and I think that's very sobering stuff that the UN does never seems to make much of a dent on the mainstream American public. I I would agree but somehow this report broke through there is a new report out about climate change and it is not positive. I think actually journalists had a role in that somebody picked up that report and framed it around. We have twelve years left. The world has just twelve years to stop a climate change catastrophes that gives us twelve years to make sure that the temperature more than in a decade to reduce the amount of carbon dioxide released in the world is going to end in twelve years if we don't address climate change and your biggest issue is the biggest issue is how are we gonNA pay for it. Twelve years a long period of time. That's not in the report that was a media media decision and then the sunrise movement picked it up and a lot of scientists actually have gotten very upset about the twelve year framing but from a media and communication perspective. It's genius yes because we have eleven years to cut emissions by about half that is what the report says and so yeah it is true that there is a clock ticking and we've already warned the planet by one degree Celsius and if we want to reduce it or limit it to one point five degrees Celsius. There's a timeline of course if we don't meet that at target. It's not like the world explodes on the First Day of twenty thirty one and then the other thing I would say that has begun to breakthrough is climate impacts are actually happening in California is burning on both ends decimating an entire town called paradise coverage of the damage caused by Michael. The category four storm was the the most powerful hurricane on record to hit Florida's Panhandle Imelda. I striking Freeport Texas. Some areas could see upwards of eighteen inches of rain a and the media has not done a great job of linking people's lived experiences to climate change but that is starting to catch hold for a long time time scientists said that it wasn't wise to attribute the cause of any particular weather event to climate change whether was too complex for that but attribution attribute in science as it's called has gotten a lot better right. It's now possible to connect the dots between some instances of extreme mm-hmm weather and climate change public citizen this. Ngo wrote a report show that only one in five articles that talk about heatwaves even mention in climate change at all he waves are the most easy to attribute to climate change. Every time I opened up an article I look for climate and I look for global warming and I usually come up empty-handed Leah. Why do you think that is is it still regarded as a political issue? It's a question of perceived balance. Climate change is actually the most polarized public policy issue in the United States because of the denial campaign that the fossil fuel industry has run for over forty years and journalists they don't WanNa make mistakes and I really value that but that's making them kind of fearful about linking things to climate change that really should should be linked and I have been working on a project with a student Emily Williams and with the website climate signals to try to take the science that is being published in academic mkx journals often behind pay walls and get open access version so that journalists can easily find the article that shows empirically that yes you can link this event to climate change. I was really struck by this study this month from the Yale Program on climate change communication and it said seven and ten registered Iowa voters support government action to address climate change seventy-seven percent of Iowa voters are more likely to support candidates who favor increased funding for renewables. That's a really consistent finding over the past six months showing growing the primary voters are going to vote based on this issue in there were several polls coming out a few months ago that said it was the number one issue even above healthcare healthcare and immigration and let's not forget we have the climate denier in chief in the White House just announcing that he's revoking California's power to set its own vehicle emission standards Standards California reached a deal with four automakers July to reduce emissions by three point seven percent every year. Well feds are going after the carmakers that signed a deal with California -fornia on emission standards. I think him rolling back. Environmental Policies has woken up a lot of people to the consequences but it sounds like what what you're suggesting is that the biggest mind change her is lived experience. Even if those congressional aides who find themselves surrounded by the arguments of lobbyists might have a change of heart if they had a personal experience of extreme weather the research so far is showing that when people believe in climate change and they experience experience extreme weather they become more active so right now that's Democrats and maybe some young Republicans but if you don't think climate change is real in happening then and you're not going to connect the extreme weather back to action on the part of the government so we don't know for sure that lived experience will do it but one of our producers found a story in Harper's earlier this year with an anecdote that he just loved it was about the environmental legacy of the new you deal and the head of the soil conservation service a man named Big Hugh Bennett he was preparing to testify before the Congress on the need for a new who agency and then he got wind a dust storm that was headed to Washington and he stalled his conclusion until the storm arrived arrived. Here's the quote from Harper's as he finished the congressman rush to the windows of the capital watching the duster rolled in like a vast vast steel town Paul Thick and repulsive the skies Khanna copper color. The Sun went into hiding the air became heavy with grit rent. This gentleman is what I'm talking about. Bennett told them there goes Oklahoma. I love it well. We had a nice nice moment like that with the CNN climate townhall Hurricane Doreen was bearing down on the country. We're seeing firsthand. The effects of climate change as a powerful it landed hurricane is sitting right now off the coast of Florida. It could make landfall tomorrow in South Carolina Tonight Democratic and independent voters we'll be asking the questions live here in our audience and also by video. What do you think of the coverage of the various climate proposals from the candidates? Let's just go through one of the issues in these plants how fast you want to hit net zero emissions. Elizabeth Warren says I can do it by twenty thirty twenty forty five five is the target for Cory Booker Julio Castro Comma Harris Twenty Forty Nine is Andrew Gangs number twenty fifty is what Joe Biden naming cloture O'Rourke Bernie Sanders and p Buddha just says. Are there voters. There's out there are going to say Aha I'm for Warren because she gets there quicker. Just you have to have a plant. Many journalists call me up and they say oh look all these plans at the same same. If you contrast the Sanders Plan with Warren's plan which was based off of Jay inslee plan when he was in the race what we're actually talking about is sanders sanders takes nuclear off the table. He says we're not going to use that and we're going to have one hundred percent. Renewable Energy by Twenty Thirty Warren by contrast says we're going to keep chiefs stuff on the table and we're gonNA have a one hundred percent clean energy by twenty thirty five. Let's be clear that these are both really Herculean goals and night goal all by contrast is by twenty fifty so a lot further in the future. Actually Bernie Sanders plan is fifty percent harder on an annual basis. Then Dan Elizabeth Warren's plan. What do you mean harder? I mean that you must be deploying new technology at a rate that is fifty percent higher every single single year and just to be clear. The Warren Plan says that we're going to deploy seventeen times current deployment rates Bernie Sanders plan is we're going to deploy twenty eighty five times current to plate so both of them are ramping things up on a huge scale and I think the media doesn't understand that these words on paper that have technologies that are eligible that have targets and timetables would really change the landscape of America in a different way before you go the Could you read a quote that you brought to our attention from Thomas Edison. Yes this is from over a hundred years ago and he he said the scheme of combustion to get power makes me sick to think of it is so wasteful you see we should utilize natural forces and thus get get all of our power sunshine is a form of energy and the winds and the tides or manifestation of energy. Do we use them Ono we we burn up wood and coal as renters burn up the front fence for fuel. We live like squatters not if we owned the property. How'd you feel when you it came upon that I felt that we have lost so much time to denial campaigns from the fossil fuel industry and we start to turn the tide and the fossil fuel era must end Leah? Thank you very much. Thank you so much for having me on Leah's Stokes of the university -versity of California at Santa Barbara Her upcoming book is short circuiting policy interest groups in the battle over clean energy and climate policy in the American States Linda. There's no and we got to go the end and that's it for this week. 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What was MLS like in 1996? Kevin Payne tells D.C. dynasty stories + Mount Rushmore for San Jose, Columbus

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What was MLS like in 1996? Kevin Payne tells D.C. dynasty stories + Mount Rushmore for San Jose, Columbus

"You're listening to entrance is driven by continental. You feel enough for that matter. I feel a lot better Bob. Extra telling me see exactly how I find out what's going on in the MLS lawsuit. Maybe this podcast isn't me a little bit as well. Because of the experts from yet path. Everybody here every single day goes into the office into the laboratory to try to cook up some great stuff for you guys swine From Brooklyn New York. You are listening to extra time driven by continental not from the studios. We thank him for the support. I'm Andrew Abby with my partners in soccer what's up guys Charlie Davies here mattdoyle David Gas Kevin Payne longtime us soccer executive and the brains behind DC. Night will be here with us and just a little bit every feeling good on this Monday or whatever day of the week it is here. I have no idea it all blends together. I mean there's a groundhog day Sort of reality to the way related right now but the sun is out in New York so that improves my mood about five-fold hanging in there man gas Yeah you know a lot. Exactly art over there not. Why are actually doing a little research because we prompted us with an early topic that I hadn't done the proper research foreign didn't remember years on so I was trying to sneak a little bit of that in but Charlie like any good teacher. You caught me there. You go the until like it's not even a hard one. It's your first. Mls memory because today is April six. Of course that is the anniversary twenty. Five years ago of the first ever months game the clash in DC united are going to be a stream here later with the Eric Wynalda. Jeff Agoos talking through that game watching that game people can watch it on Youtube. Espn has their slate of programming on this Monday night. As we record at about nine you might catch that if you listen to pod right when it comes out of five eastern or you might not if you don't use plus now has a cachet of classic games or will very very soon to keep you entertained for these long uncertain days. The problem was what's your first illness. Memory Dave that should be in your brain. You should be able to pull that out a much eared. So my first memory isn't watching games or going to games. It's playing backyard soccer and I'm pretty sure Cobi. Jones was in one of the versions that I used to play him. I used to pick every time. I couldn't remember what year version of backyard soccer that was turns out the wikipedia pages up backyard. Soccer is not as informative as you'd like and not as obvious of how to use them so that would be my first memory. My first game I think was in two thousand four. We talked about that a few weeks ago. I two thousand and three was when I really got into following the league watching the League. I'd sneak over to friends. Houses on Saturday Nights Watch. Fsc Games on Sunday night. Because my parents wouldn't get the channel until I got certain level of grades which took a really long time to get to in watching games on MSG FSC Fox soccer channel. That was my first sort of introduction to our member ponying up with my with my money from Ku Bookstore in college and being like man. I don't know if I can afford this fifteen bucks a month but I'm just going to bite the bullet and do it Memory in stadium. And that's where I'll take. This one is two thousand. Seven at Arrowhead Stadium. The Casey Wizards led by Eddie Johnson. Against The New York Red Bulls with Juan Pablo. On on the AC top Democrat Lingo had Clint Mathis And I remember Eddie toward a hat trick the game before I went with my Dad. My brother and it was not very packed. Let's just put it that way but harbor head to look packed because it was like a seventy thousand seat sea of empty seats But he got a hat trick like kind of a vintage Eddie. Johnson Hatrick was actually with that game. The first player to have back hat tricks in the League's history. But there's a lot going on Clint. Mathis elbowed curious development right in the throat and got chucked out of the game. Gpa opened the scoring. I was obsessed with Juan. Pablo in hell at this time. The wife who by the way as from one the ax you got like legend on Legend. They're from different different parts of soccer culture. And then Dima Kovalenko how to deflect the go but I remember my dad my brother and I sitting there watching it in my. I played soccer until I was eight and had to quit to play baseball fulltime. My brother was so Flynn full-time. We were Kinda like we'd never been to anything other than a professional indoor game it was I opened. We're like this was awesome. This is cool now. Help the five goals scored in the home team won and it was like a treat for us to Kansas City but Yeah that was my first. Mls In stadium memory in basically off the back of that I said to myself I'm going to start a blog spot. Cover this team for free. So that was the that was the spark that led me down this long road to video podcasting with you in an empty bedroom on Monday in the middle of pain. Yeah I my first. Memory of I'm less was watching Eric Wynalda score that goal in the first game. That's my first memory but in stadium was just before my tenth birthday knowing. Revolution verse. La Galaxy. I was such a fan of the game because the ninety four cups of Kobe Jones was a hero of mine and to go. See Him play the hometown doing revolution. I just WANNA see goals. Because I haven't went to World Cup was South Korea. Bolivia Zero Zero no-go score. So I just WANNA see. Some goals ended up being two to four goals. Cobi Jones scored and I remember having a ball and I was like Manufa. Get an autograph like I'm going to be the happiest in the world. I would have the game. A ton of player signed it including Cobi Jones and I went back in the car and I was just. I remember on the whole ride home as I call this. My precious still have it. I still do really. Yeah okay you got next show you gotTA bring that out. We got sirens house. So there's something about autographs at that age. I remember waiting in the bowels of the Kansas Coliseum for Wichita wings players to sign like headshots for hours thinking time could not be used in a better way other than standing in line with my just waiting waiting waiting throughout. What's your first in stadium experience? Mls was summer ninety. Six Was after my freshman year of college bunch of Buddies From College. We all drove up to Foxboro to the old stadium in Foxborough. Charlie knows in with site that was not a lovely stadium. It was a lot of concrete in a lot of benches and a lot of thirty. Two Ounce Beers in it was practically became famous in. Mls circles in about two and a half weeks is he would do everything you could like to scour the nascent. Internet at that point Hope that there were highlights sports center and you can always find a Preki. Chop could always find like it became famous that so Kansas City was coming to foxborough in like early summer of ninety six and we loaded up a car six or eight of US and And we drove up the Foxborough and we did a drinking game Other than the one kid who was designated driver and we did it at drinking game. Drink every time practice chopped someone can God messy especially because at some point he scored and like. I can't vouch for this because memories are funny things especially when You know lubricated But I swear he chopped if it wasn't Alexi it was one of the other vendors on the on the rows and like scored like a classic Preki goal so that was an issue drink. That was my first stadium experience. I ended up having many more like that. But right off the Bat Like I want people to understand how incredible Preki was. He was thirty. Two years old he was an indoor guy is scored. Like a thousand goals for Tacoma. I think it was it. Played for Everton in the Premier League. He had like really bizarre career. He came through that Great Red Star Belgrade youth system back in the early eighties and here he was a thirty two in. Mls starting a new league and like he's instantly on the same level as guys Valderrama and Etcheverry and he's like outplaying Roberto Donadoni head to head. It was while doyle I forgot to bring this up a few weeks ago. We were talking about something around. When the metrostars became the Red Bulls? They used to give away a full snickers bar if they scored after a certain minute when you left the stadium do you remember that. Don't We used to. They used to just leave the boxes at the gates. As you laugh highlight of the game someone would get thirty. Snickers bars and go home. Maratha dream now. I don't recall that one so those are memories but I want more from your door but I quit. Promo for people that are waiting to see. What's coming Kevin Payne one-time? Us Soccer executive is going to help us remember what it was like in nineteen ninety six but also ninety one and ninety four in all the years that it took to get this league up and running. He said it was like a Bisley driving an airplane in flight. Not Knowing how to drive an airplane so he'll give us some stories. We've got Columbus cruces. Mount Rushmore. Why did I say see? I have no idea. I'll remember it again. I'm so sorry. And the San Jose earthquakes. Both of them really really difficult as I did. My research last night. And then we've got sleep in La telling. Charlie why he's dead wrong about seeing phobos adverse Beckham But used the HASHTAG emotion. Ninety six share your first memories like I love hearing these love. Learning how people got into the League in less than ninety six is now on instagram. To was sick throwback content. Check that out. Go listen to. The caller braggers on is their guests this week tune into the endless classics remix on Wednesday four. Pm Eastern the first hell Israel match can be me doyle Intergroup from cincy and Clemson Jonathan Mensah so that should be really really fun before we get to Kevin Payne Doyle. I Read Your Column Your Q. And a. About Ninety. Six just helped me help everybody else. Understand what it was really like from a Fan's perspective from a young man's perspective. What was going on in this country. As far as professional soccer goes in house it compared to what we have. Now it's night and day in a lot of it. I think. The biggest the biggest way to conceptualize it in understand it from what Charlie said. Charlie was eight or nine years old for ninety four World Cup and that Tim and it hooked show many other people but I also it was proof of concept that soccer in the United States could work because at that point in time there was still very vivid memories of the S. L. Bailey an ESL went out of business in in one thousand nine hundred eighty four so there was a very loud and very Prominent sort of mainstream sports writer take that professional top flight soccer in the. Us was never going to be a thing. Charlie's coming after your boy. Dan Shaughnessy the ED. Shaughnessy was one of them for. Sure is bill. Yeah he's not going to work so that like that. Underpin Danny Everything but then what happened in ninety four was the? Us showed like the US team wasn't just a curiosity they could go out there and they could beat. Columbia. They could go toe to toe with Romania. They could go toe to toe for ninety minutes with Brazil and yeah we lost but it was a fight. Were College Kids. Get just steamrolled. So Alexi became a star. Cobi Jones became a star. Guys like Belbow Tab Ramos Eric. Wynalda stars at that level because like meal like Kobe in electric breakouts. But like these other guys. Sports fans knew who they were. And then these guys came to. Mls and with the idea that on the field they would be pillars of the team because they were obviously the best players at the US had or thought was and then they would be off-field pillars of marketing and business in the way to bring in fans and then that was interspersed with a certain level of star power getting compos thirty at that. He was a star for the Mexican National Team. Getting Carlos Valderrama. He was thirty four. He was a little bit over the hill but not really because even when he was twenty four. Pb didn't run so they got him. They gave him a bunch of athletic players to put around him and he was like the great quote is Valderrama played soccer. The way other people play golf. Walk a couple of yards swing. Hit the ball walk. You another couple yards swing. Hit the like so you had like this diversity of approaches and it was a global league in a Lotta ways right off the bat and it was enjoyable at the same time there was always going to be put it this way. I lived with existential dread about the League. Failing until about two thousand six two thousand seven. I you know I. I think it was the first Toronto game when I saw that crowd in two thousand seven. I said okay. This league is going to last. I'm not going to have to tell my nephew someday. Oh I remember when there was a top flight league in the US like so all of that sort of combined and as fans. I think lot of us were like Baru for our team but we also wanted to do our part. We wanted to show up there and come up with chancellor really steal a lot of chance especially from Argentina is so many great the Spanish speaking supporter group back. Then and I know there's a lot now as well and like trying to create that atmosphere it it felt like a 'cause if felt like 'cause in like it was so frustrating to a lot of us to see soccer fans in the US not join in and be part of the cause but cure. We are now twenty four years later and we can see what it's become in. Its I don't I still don't have the right words for it but I'm getting goose just thinking about in. Let's talk to one of the architects of those early days. In the League of the growth of the ninety four World Cup of so much more today. Tnt called on the field. That man's name is Kevin. Payne is a longtime soccer executive here in the US. You probably remember him. As a president of DC united in their glory years he was with ag soccer for a couple years went back to DC. Then was in. Toronto is now US club. Soccer's CEO Kevin welcomed extra-time. Charlie Crane to see you great to see you as well. Kp Let's go back man. Let's reminisce because today is April sixth and of course that is the anniversary twenty five years ago now the very first. Mls game out clash in DC united in. You're the president. Ceo OF DC at the time ninety six when the game was. But when did you start putting things together? What was the task? How did you basically build a team a league from scratch so the first meeting that I was running a company at the time called soccer? Usa Partners we own we own all the rights for the US national teams so all the sponsorship TV promote gain promotion and so forth we also have the obligation to put all those games on that had begun in nineteen ninety. Did that through one thousand nine hundred eighty four for the World Cup that was kind of our role in in helping me ready the nations of the World Cup. We did games all over the country. We didn't know her over. One hundred gaunt's in four years so I knew very I had been at the federation before that so the the two men have owned that company said to me. What do you think about the idea of a professional league? I said I think if it's done right it will work in the world. Compass demonstrating that there is an interest in the game. So we've first meeting. We had with Allen actually before the World Cup in March of nineteen ninety. Four New York we. We said you know we're interested we. We'd like to to be in this. So he kind of checked us off. I think we were the second group to tell him. Pretty definitively that we were. I think the morals I Amar half second or third. I think we were second. I think John Clue. Lia metromedia stepped up after the actual games of the World Cup were played we were. We were pretty much committed before the World Cup. Now you know that was a pretty soft commitment because then we all had to figure out you. Don't how many teams do we need to start much money? Do we need to have to start? In my case I raised the money to two guys that own the company. They willing to put up a certain amount but I raised the majority of Irish that eighty percent of what we did so it was very long actually very short process and a lot of ways. It seemed longer very frantic time. We've been doing unbelievable amount of salt water. Same time is very excited then. Kp prior to that in nineteen ninety. You're the director of marketing for the US Soccer Federation. What was the soccer landscape? Like prior to that ninety four World Cup. And how were you able to get sponsors divine because you raised thirty five million dollars from that World Cup in Nineteen Ninety-four? How are you able to go to sponsors and say hey I have something special? Get some money. Well I'll tell you so. I started at federation. Actually the national administrator that was the title was actually hired even the executive director. But they didn't have that position didn't exist and I was hired about started work about eight or nine days before game in Trinidad. Remember my flight back from on the flight back from Trinidad. We went through Kennedy airport and I picked up a New York Times and there was unlike page. Three of the sports section there was about a four columnist story about qualifying for World Cup for the first time since nineteen fifty and I was absolutely over the move New York Times and so now we got a. We all took a deep breath and said now you know now when we do and so. We needed to figure out a way to promote the men's national team and you know obviously the game itself but certainly our men are. Us men were very very important and so you have soccer at a putting together a relationship company soccer USA parched. And I originally. I was director of marketing. Us Soccer and in nineteen late. Nineteen Ninety one. I moved over to become the executive vice president of that company and we worked very closely together before so I mean it was hard. Charlie is II. Tell us I saw loss stories about it but this one I will never forget today. I di- I went to see. The brand manager of Ostermeyer wasn't awesome as armor armor hotdogs. I flew to Chicago and I get showing and he's he's got like a cubicle like a pretty big cuticle classic brand manager in a big and he's a big beefy guy and in those days one of the styles was particularly. Kado guys used to wear a tie and they would wear their collars pretty tight. They had these collar bars that way under the tie but across the collar and everybody's strangling to death. This is probably two hundred sixty pounds big dude and behind them on wall is his sons football team. You know frank so I sit down with him and a very first thing he says I am set the meeting up. We had a guy that set the meetings up at first thing he says to me is. I don't know why I took this meeting. I absolutely hate sock so I actually was able to convince him but they didn't become a sponsor but I had three meetings with him at all to subsequent meetings and the only reason that they didn't become a sponsor because as budget's cut it was a difficult time. And there were some companies that were pretty forward-looking sprint one. We had a meeting sprint on Friday. The heads of all the different divisions of the company there it was a guy named Mike Ford CEO. Who's no longer with us in me We presented I actually at that point I was still at. Us Soccer we presented. You must national team at two and a half million dollars a year times at that point schools for years plus the World Cup at seven and a half million dollars. Got Back into my office on by my Office Times Colorado Springs on Monday at nine thirty. My phone rang. And it is a guy named Tom. Wagon moves the CMO sprint. And he said we want a letter of intent and I said it for what he said for everything now is a real turning point mall and all of a sudden we had this really dynamic large company committing to you know about fifteen million dollars over route three and a half years so you know we had the old faithfuls. Ab has a Bush was with us. Adidas was with us but everybody else we had to convince to American Airlines coming pretty early but even some of the global saucers World Cup mastercard at the time. It took us a year to convince them that wouldn't be wasting their money in the US. It's a challenging time. And you know talking about this with somebody. The other day that a lot of media particularly older you know sports editors and squirts directors radio stations. Who actively wanted to fail. Why Guiding Franken Ford who is very well known who had just become the The editor I guess editor in chief a national paper called the national and I mean he just absolutely hated soccer. I never could understand why but that was more couch. So let's think forward a little bit though to DC United. Because you mentioned raising the money you get the team together and then you put together one of the best rosters and MLS history and you go from the first day or took a few weeks but from the first three weeks of that first season through two two thousand two thousand one as one of the best teams in always fascinates me. Because when you learn about this time you have you know this player draft this allocation the college draft players coming signed by the League from Europe from South America. And then the teams individually what was the roster building to put that. Dc team together. How did it work with Bruce? Still being at Uva coaching the Olympic team at the same time. What was that whole experience like ninety five into ninety six? Yes so bruce and I pretty much shaken hands at the sea convention which happened to be in DC in January of ninety nine but we have an agreement but so we saved in pretty close touch. I told the League. You know there's a couple of players that we want that everybody got to do this. I said we we mark legendary. Want John Harkes. They said well. You got to figure out how to get John. Because John was playing in England at the time and was successful and John and I were friends I would talk to modify from time to time so we call them one day late in the season in strain of ninety five I said. Would you be interested? Would you come here and the for signing said yes. I remember caller Sunia up Galati because he is the one responsible for getting players and I told him and he was like. Are you kidding me? And I said No. He said that that is absolutely huge. Important for us to get the national team players. Guys like Tony Meola On Tab Ramos and John. Because you know they were really the symbol of the game in this country. That is as important as it looked at performed players really. The most important thing was the guys who are the stars of the ninety four World Cup team and John was big eh. Because of all the field players he was probably the one who had the most successful career he had played in The FA Cup Final League Cup finally won the goal of the year war in England and things go well for him. So you know Bruce. I talked a lot about that. I Remember Bruce. Telling you gotTa Get Jeff Egg and I said I knew Jeff 'cause he has done you know around the national. He got on the national team but he ended up not the World Cup team Bruce out for four years and he just said he's the most competitive player I've ever had and so we got him. I charge get Hymie Merano before the season. But he had been you know he didn't transfer to Middlesbrough on a pretty big and not a huge deal. But it was highly publicized deal and they weren't interested in letting him go so you know we had allocations which were from the Lee with a lot of getting take with the teams than we had. We had at least three different drafts so we had a draft that was for a bunch of foreign players that have been side guys. Presage row will be as our say we'd gotten lost. The sorry steel was steel and actually get them with last pick in the first hour that draft guys like a Lotta guys playing indoor soccer and then then there was a college stress. And then there was actually another trap that we call the supplemental draft later which ended up producing some very significant players Guys who for whatever reason hadn't signed yet Morgan I strapped were new. Foreign players are being looked at so we all went to Florida and watch these guys play. Chris Armas mattered addressed to Ch- TO LA applauding. Mario Gori actually the best player in that draft. We'll pass 'cause he was insisting on one hundred twenty thousand dollars a year and we all said no way his name is Bruno Jimenez any. I'm not going to remember the name. He played under a different name. I think he used his father's namely play but he ended up playing like nine years in Italy. An end six years in Mexico was top goalscorer in ball lay getting who were to bend the best early goalscorer in our league. Anybody picked hundred forty thousand dollars too much money so we also know so it was. It was Pretty Wild. So we believe may these arbitrary decisions. They they decided that New York had the highest rated allocations. Says New York had Peter Vermes? Tag Ramose Tony Meola End. Roberta we add John. Marco Jeff Agoos Guiding Bernice Lorez was Bolivian who we hidden but they mostly have to take him if if you want more Kotecha Long. He's not gonNA. He can't play the way walk. Plan says you got. You decided that. New York Atop Group of Allocation. We second show all other draft orders. Were based off your rank so we New York pick last in the I track. We picked second last. And then you're picked I in the college draft pick second round pick any poke the college draft which was pretty pick best centreback history of our country And so if you really WANNA laugh laugh look at our lineup from the first game on a nineteen ninety six or are opening home game and a significant number of the players. Those lineups weren't even on the team. Five weeks later on we started out. Oh and four one and six to nine. And then we marco started to play. Market wasn't fit when it when the season started we brought in John Mazer crews had had va Johnson. Germany hadn't signed a contract at the beginning but agreed to come in as basically a free agent. If you will. We signed Tony Sound. And we also signed a guiding. Seve Rommel who allow people forget about? Lou Steve Rommel committed scored thirteen goals forest first season as forward from rutgers extremely and then our season really changed when we kept telling mark to weren't playing Suarez and we told scenario MRS embarrassing for him at soccer for us so we were able to sell him for a small amount of money back to Bolivia as a as a result of that lead rules at the time we were entitled to another replace it allocation and that he came hiding rain analysis. That really changed everything. When he showed up he was just a different love me marketed. Marco actually started to play at the same time Elson Alison. We had the two best players. Believe that's helpful thirty helpful. Let me rewind it just a little bit for for the people at Home Kevin. Because we're we're walking through the season that I think all of us whether we are alive and watching or not have become very familiar but to I what I warn eighty-six here as ten years old yet. Yeah Okay I did not no. I did not know much about it. I did not know anything about that first. Game in San Jose. Of course you were there. I've heard a lot of interesting stories. One of the quotes I saw from you about building. This and having this first game is that everybody was shooting from the hip quote. This thing was literally building an airplane while you were on flight. Give us the most bizarre weird. Oh my God. We're GONNA pull this off. I game Story you have like leading into that game in San Jose Traveling. They're hitting the field. The game being played were there. What was the bizarre moment that you still think about well? There were a few I can quickly. I see four. We left Mario Gori supposed fear. Starting left back. We didn't have clearance from the time. Federation Fran to play so they refuse to clear so we flew. He flew with us but he wasn't wasn't gonNA be eligible. Plan to game I went out to look stadium the night before I game. An assaultive is huge logo in the and I said I can't remember who was it. I tell probably bill sage I said you know. I think that's a problem. And he said what do you mean? I said you're not allowed to have markings on a field. He goes is our first game. You know as well as he walked to view and he goes. I'm not wrecking the game. We got on there so they ended up having to spend the whole night trying to figure out a way to get it out of the field or covered up on. Remember exactly what they did but then the other thing was you know. We've felt early on that or uniform was really important. We were trying to build a real tradition. We didn't allow our Carol Company to dictate now. We were fortunate because we were originally supposed to be Nike. They wanted to go in one direction. We want to go on another. We assess the talent. We don't want Nike to do it. We just have to provide D. S. as we ended up getting Adidas Full Dina's we want to bury traditional. Look that will stand out and everybody will know our team when they see the wall and they came up with black black black now. Our second second kit was white red white so we go out for the first game and the league. Whoever was that was a game producer? Decides that we're GONNA wear black. Red White wasn't one of our uniforms and we never wore it again. Ever history of Wigan twenty-five here's says Moore wanting but if you look at those pictures snippers game and it really doesn't look very good but I remember trying to explain to these people at this is not how you bill tradition. This is how you build a culture around your team so I do. I mean and I say this with no now for anyone because we were all in the same boat. None of us knew. It was a complete experiments on the fly and we were just making slot. It sounds fun. What are you most proud of Kevin from all your years in DC in with the League and building soccer here in continue to do so what what is it about. Dc THE LEGACY. The tradition the club the championships. What's the one thing that you really take the most proud while I'll tell you we'll tell you about a moment and Charlie appreciate this before he was out of team? He'll know what I'm talking about. We had a very good team in Tooth I think it was two thousand six. We won the support. A shield regressed. We would clearly the best team in the league and we played Chicago in a two game series in the Ploughs Slave. Their place for tied one one and came back home and really felt like actually has two thousand four and really felt. That wasn't too frontside. Two Thousand Sixteen and we really felt like you know. We're GONNA win this game. I mean we're better than they are man-for-man we're just Christian Gomez Heine and think a Wacko might have been on that team and we lost just laid an egg. We lost four nothing at the end of the game. No-one had left the standards. Are Supporters Clubs? All you could see on the far side of our case stadium was banners and flags and it was just amazing to slay the love for the team even though we have lost. Maybe it just and I thought how you know we. We have really die what we were trying to do. We have created a real bonded real culture that these fans are a big part and that was critical to the game succeeding our country and that's one of the reasons why we took such a traditional approach we want. I believe that round the world football teams and fans have they seem to have different different relationship that a lot of other sports have their teams in a lot of other sports have relationships that are more transactional and not not always need. Not Not saying. I don't want to overly general. You know when you go to a place like stain or England or Argentina and you talk to people for six or seven generations. They've been supporting the same team and even if they move they still support that team. And that's what we were trying to accomplish. So I think the thing that I'm most proud of probably got some stuff in this little room now sitting in that was given to me when I left the club by the Bar Bravo and so the other fan club was screaming eagles. I'm probably proudest of the fact that The Way Fan supporter culture has developed in this state. I think it started with the united in many ways. And now it's really league watt and that's to me is the most exciting thing about what's happened. Kevin. Let's leave you on one last one we've been doing over the course of the weeks for every club in MLS. We're doing a mount rushmore. The top four players or the most important four players the most beloved that go up in history for each club. We're going to San Jose in Columbus today but we already did D C united. We didn't have you on at that time. We want to go back now a little. Not Coach is Bruce Arena. Got His own celebration. You mentioned you got your own space. But for players for their DC careers or the four. That have to go down as the you know the legends in history. Well a hundred percent for sure Marco at hiding they really are the symbol. A. B. C. And I say poke and then gets real hard core. You know so many good players. Chris should Gomez unsung guys like Richie Williams. Who put on the fourth actually? Probably a. He wasn't necessarily were best player but he became a similar club. I would probably put acid. Those are the four we but we nailed it. Yeah I feel vindicated from the mouth of God. It's hard it is hard. I loved so many of our players. tried like when you have success. Is these see what goes fast unbelievable? Dc BOB lead right there. One of the most magical nights history of our clothes is Charlie first game us. Sure it was a big moment in Your Life Charlie Wa. It was absolutely the most emotional things I've ever seen in sports. So that's the thing I miss most got not being in it every day is the interaction with the horrors. Kinda living dying together. I'm very proud of where league is now and you know it can always get better. But we've made some progress in so many great clubs and clubs that really appreciate the importance of their brand great players in the League confused. Bright Bright Okay. Thank you for your contribution to to to the sport in our country. Can't thank you enough. I go the but I'm also curious what the name of your dog is Kevin. I think I hear him. Barking in the next room asked her to dance conference thing but he's a little dachshund named huckleberry that's a great man. Thank you so much Kevin for everything you've done I'm kidding. The two of course still Us club soccer CEO. Now affecting the game every single day Kevin Payne longtime executive here a major league soccer. Usr Just in the game in the United States. Thank you for joining us. Kevin Safety Important then Charleston's always thank you take care all right. Oh how sweet it is. Kevin Payne names are mount. Rushmore is the correct. One feels good. Feels good. That was a little iffy? We didn't know if we're the coach player side was should push him out. But I feel like we're both vindicated. To in that the first fourth name he brought up potentially was Christian Gomez. Yeah I feel like those are votes of confidence from Kevin. Pain to both David. Hi so just to relax. Your soccer mind is what he later. You are so smart insightful. Thank you probably picks. The employee goes for for allegation. That's the question. I'm just curious who were the other guys on the fringes for your DC Mount Rushmore. That's a good question. I remember we were so certain at the end of it. We had bobby Boswell all but no because of his Houston time we got in there. Here's a bit lasted or amending bill to get out as well. I think Tony. Sonic gotTA mentioned. Yeah Eggers Y-yeah Speaking of US do the earthquake. You guys ready. Let's do from Frank Yallop Observation Deck. Because there's no doubt the man one to molest cops as well as the supporters shield in two different senses San Jose. We are observing faces being carved in the granite and the first one. I'll start this off absolutely has to be Chris Wanda laskey gotta be all time leading goalscorer. Almost all no doubt coming with the earthquakes Just a legend He's from the area. He represents the club through through. Expect you well once he retires from playing professionally but it's Wando and then I think there's a second doyle. Can you tell me who that second is? That has to be up there before we really start this debate. There's gotTA BE RAMIRO CORRALES RIGHT MR quake himself. I guess he was a it was. It was part of the original college draft so he was an original. Mls Player in ninety six. He was a last original. Mls player to retire from the League. I think he retired in two thousand fourteen. Really really good player. Never best eleven caliber but like always solid and You know had about a half dozen. Maybe ten caps with the national team as well just cult-hero but also belongs on that teams Mount Rushmore. He was the last original. Mls player to retire so he was yeah but he was not the last player who played in the original mls season to retire. I mean he played two hundred and fifty S. He played a lot in the last player in the last ninety six player to retire. Was Brad Friedel. But FRITO wasn't original player because he didn't come until halfway through. That's your that's your Monday Trivia. Boys the way. I've been accumulating random as I do research for these RANDOM TRIVIA AND. I'm trying to figure out if we could do like one night a week even just a one off like mass in the last Trivia. Somehow I've been playing with my friends. Don't judge me the name of the game is is Jack Box. It's like a your your own in Else's played this but I'm trying to figure out what we can do trivia for like anybody who listens to the show on some given night so if you not technology out there I'm looking into some Let us know. Dave Gimme your your nominee for the third spot we got we got Wanda open stone. And by the way some quakes fans just do four of Wando can the most important part of this is where does wander. Go make sure to give them the best light in the most prominent. Lacing WE HAVE RAMIRO CORRALES MR quake who deserves that third spot so I have a few names that go down over the next few spots. This isn't coming from me coming from every fan that I interacted with and looked at Ronald Serena's was the next name on their list. That's that's on my list as well so I think you have to go with it. L. Salvadoran International for basically forever played for San Jose for four years. One of their all time leading goal scores. I think he's second on the list even though he only played there for four years. So I think that's an easy one to go down with as absolutely not absolutely not A. He was a he was. He was a good player for terrible teams. He had no he had. No bearing was was not on the team. Run RUN RUN. I was but he lost his job by that. Didn't he know all right so he was on that because he was so he was on that two thousand one? I retract the really vehement redaction but I I don't think he was. Never he was never a best eleven he was never a bass player on the. Mls past eleven is first season in ninety seven when they were the worst team in the league. So so far. You're I never wife. They may be worse. They could be the worst team the league. He's still best eleven. He still one of the best players in the league. We're also talking about. How bad is team is which also give him a better chance or shot and making them rushmore because he has zero help like you said he's in St Louis was on. That was in that group too. Okay so who's your three doyle who's a third? It's pretty tough but I would probably go with Ronnie Ekelund because if you look at the you know other than the the the elephant in the room is landed on of it because the best player for that little run was Landon Donovan Deora arguably dear. Oh Dear Oh the other one I was GONNA make an argument for Ackland was awesome equity was arguably the best central midfielder. Mls for four straight years. He was a top three central midfielder. Mls for like four straight years in eight like he scored huge goal in MLS. Cobb like three dollars was good and I shouldn't have jumped on that like a heat. Like he was not a key. Part of those of those great quakes teams like you have to go from two thousand one to two thousand five run so when I think of San Jose earthquake so I. I always remember Ronald Torito's in how good he was in the League. And so that's why for me just as a as a spectator. I'm not huge. I wasn't a huge San Jose earthquakes or San Jose Clash Fan but one player. I do remember when I think of San Jose. Earthquakes was Ron Sabinas. And that's why he'd be on my Mount Rushmore win. You've actually GONNA take I'M GONNA take the L on this because I'm I'm looking back down. I just didn't remember Cerritos career. The correct way he actually came back to the quakes that Oh five team that also won the supporters shield okay. I'll give you the other thing I'd say about the. Oh One zero five teams to your argument that you've made in the past. How can you be on a Mount Rushmore? If your thought of with other teams. Jeff Agoos Landon Donovan D. Rowe probably can't be on it right so for that span. Those are. That's your captain your best player and maybe your second best player. That probably can't be on the SAN JOSE ONE. Just say that. I don't think it should be allowed that you're on multiple Mount Rushmore on one if it went and being on L. A.'S. Automatically disqualifies him in my opinion for San Jose despite the massive role he played. It also disqualifies him. Because if you're northwards fan you don't WanNa stare your Mount Rushmore and see Landon Donovan Zero back at you. You're rise do C. D. Rowe and we all our D. Rowe on Houston. I know scored the game winning goal in amylase cop and he was the best player at number ten on the support. Shield winning team in two thousand five and he played more games for San Jose. Then he played for any other team. He also didn't choose to leave like he didn't have a try and he didn't play for their rival and dunk right. I mean he did in Games but he didn't do the things that Santa Fe fans. Remember Landon for landing cannot be there. Just Linden's Linden's welcome back to San Jose with the galaxy. That disqualifies him in if you haven't seen the footage from that if you haven't read the stories about that we have along for minimalist soccer dot com with all of that it's incredible land and talking about it everybody. I mean he was persona non grata. A hundred percent in large part. They blamed that move in so much of that on why the team left the city. So Lennon's out for me I know zero has a special place in San Jose's history both as a across the board. But I think to me at least you can only be on one mount rushmore. And I would put him on. Houston's Danley other names out here so you've got you mentioned issues ritual. Richard Maroney came up. Maria came Canas Joe and joke candidate helping this John. Bush came up in this. But I think Joe Cannon me gets the edge there which came up in this Troy Dayak came up with this and can I do troy. Dayak majority oil this author dot com up in this to for any fan out there. Who's not a huge troy? Dayak fan local guy fractured his spine at to have two bones taken off his hip fuse to his spine then went and played at the time. A-league WHATEVER YOU WANNA call. It got cut because he wasn't good enough to play with totally can never play. Soccer became a player. Coach in the League worked his way back tore his MC l. then made it back to major league soccer and started in one. Mls Cup in two thousand. Three with the quake's that's a pretty career. Also when you look at pictures of him from back in the day he literally looks like Loma Blanca Guy. Who'S COOKING. I leave my wife says the old. Oh my God I R- The House. Who's Your Mutual Mike? Anyone here know where it is. I think that's the morning part. Yeah no kidding. Doyle's doesn't seem too concerned about a potential fire in his In his abode sitting undermine teed off some other names came up was in here It's gotTA BE A I. I I in league in show history. Yeah that's because of his Ronald Torito's take place that wasn't that wasn't trash fire. That was a garbage fire. Started down his own home so okay. Look I think Ron Serie does is there. We have too many of the earthquakes fans saying that he has to be there and her win in doubt. I'm always GonNa go with what the fans say. Ultimately it is. Their Mount. Rushmore is their monument who for the fourth outdraw victory. Bernardo's I don't think he makes it but we should honor Hideo Lenhart. We should honor many. Lagos'S A guy who gets forgotten in so many ways when he would be on the Minnesota all-time Mount Rushmore. Maybe NOT EMMA LAST. Certainly not but the all time one he would be there. He scored so many goals in a one in three in the playoffs. But kinda gets left in the past for whatever reason Charlie. Give me a case for your fourth. Who's IT GONNA BE? Who are you going to put their next to Wando? Kerala's sincere ethos. Mb Joe Cannon MLS goalkeeper of the year He. He's played a ton of games for the club. He when I thought of also San Jose earthquakes I think a great goalkeeper backstop or who you can depend on who is consistent. It's Joe Cannon. And he's he really valued his time at San Jose. I remember member talking to him inside. That's a great city of being apart. Great Locker Room in. He was one of the leaders for those dominant San Jose. Earthquake TNT Joe Cannon. Anybody Yeah I double up with with Charlie. I didn't even look at the stats. And then when I went and looked he leaves them in shutouts. He's top five in appearances all those things. But on my mind he was arguably the best goalkeeper in the League multiple times and he was what I associate with San Jose when I think about them And he stuck around the area since he stopped playing I. He coached their PD L. team for a while stuff like that. So that's what I that's what came to my mind and I agree with Charlie. Where did we land? Sorry about that guys. We're in the fourth Off The fire alarm on Torito's moved onto fourth is she. She literally somehow A grilled cheese sandwich on fire somehow Like we're going to have to get along explanation. Maybe asked her to write it all out so I could read it on Thursday show anyway. Just you know I'd silly. I think you're Joe Tannin. Are you in agreement? That he's the fourth here chose a really show. If spent a Lotta time. There weren't a lot of games there. He won it two thousand one. Mls Cup but so we have Cerita House Wando and and corral three I mean I would go. I would go darrow over over Joe. But so yeah. My vote is derived over. Joe I would go to but we thought we were all taking we're taking from. We said No. No that's just oils rule. So he doesn't have to follow. Doyle's the one who I felt like we was like you can't be onto. You can't be known for another glove. I don't recall this. I'm going to break this This disagreement that I'm GonNa go Joe Cannon as well. I would go derail if he wasn't on Houston. wasn't the first name on. Houston's as well He's it's not that. I think you D row can be you know we're talking about. Snacks stands or like you know the elevator that takes the observation deck or whatever we can honor defoe in some way or maybe we put up a simulation of the free kick goal into the top corner. I don't know whatever it is zero gets honored but I think Joe Cannon put his mug on that Mount Rushmore. One of the things we got was could be combined. Hey do you like the existing laws late in the game in the Air San Jose? Chris waddle Ski. Ramiro Corrales Ronald Sirri dose and then finally Joe Cannon immortalized in their Club Pantheon. Let's hit the Columbus crew and I do real quick one last thing. One of the coolest parts about San Jose about the team but just the soccer ultra is. How many players in this conversation are locals? And how like the? The history of soccer in that area has changed this country there. It's the longest continuous running league. Is the league that they play a Boxer Stadium? Which is the oldest technically soccer specific stadium in the country? Talk all of that and going back and looking at it but I think we a lot of us know this all the guy stay after they play and most of them are already from there. So it's really cool just to see what San Francisco Bay Area Oakland San Jose. All means to to stop by the way. If you want some good Troy Dayak stories ask Kaelin car about playing against him as a cow player and being terrified at Doyle. We forgot here to do the best year for the quake's so give us the best year area. A One zero three twelve. Have any bearing here. Despite the lack of being twelve in five are you know? I'm a shield truth or I I thought that team in two thousand five was easily the best team in the league and I still can't believe they didn't do the the shield cup double and the fact that they were that good after losing landon within that was also the first year that they gave Darrow. The number ten. They put him at the point of the diamond. They let him run the show and he was best eleven six times the next seven years. I think I'm voting for two thousand five. I think I'm voting for two thousand five. That seemed to points per game. There aren't a lot of teams. Mls history that two points per game so my vote would be three. Eddie Robinson even like waibel a veteran solid Brian. Mullen all in that group. we you mentioned. Manny Lagos what he was able to do for that team. They had depth. They brought Dere off the bench molest cup so I think from top talent you have landing entering his prime alongside Deora starting to become a legitimate factor in the veteran pieces that you have around them and obviously Jeff Agoos says Captain Pat Onstad signing in the supporters shield. Yeah so those also a great Chicago fire team. They'd be So I think my vote will be three as well and maybe five or twelve even Gibson at large. They have great great cases for that as well. So let's say two thousand three and move on Columbus crew. This is tough one. I think we'll start with the observation deck. Can I just is it Sigi Schmitz? Does anybody else have a shout here when it's gotta be his right but if it's his could he be on? Seattle's that's the question of the poster. I I mean my gut was that it would like ziggy would be Seattle because he spent so much so much more time there. And kind of built that franchise on field where he didn't really do that with Columbus but at this point Seattle is gonna be Schnitzer so I think that that kind of opens the door to give to give to Columbus doesn't it and like unquestionably the best team. Their best year ziggy. I I think I agree with you. Although I think is we progress on for the galaxy. We must have. How did we we might have so? We probably put Bruce on twice. Yeah who knows? I'm trying to establish rules. There are no rules two side. He's running amok who our God so it's chaos so I agree that deserves to be on for Columbus. I think we can make an argument later that he also deserves to be for Seattle and potentially change that in in him on both but I would agree with what oil Adenauer just say in my memories of the way one for Columbus they were like it original exciting team out the gates. They built the stadium and then they didn't could become relevant to me again until ziggys teams became successful and they didn't really win trophies so he I think took the club into the next error out of the original. Mls One into the competitive at the top for a few years. I mean even the team that wants more detailed with Zia is still a large is just just so it's clear. The two thousand fourteen did actually win a supporter shows so they did win. Shields in there before they did right so they didn't want to open but I think your your take on. It is is largely correct. What he what? He was able to bill early quickly and then hit that high point that no other protein is head. There are some incredible names in the history of this club. Let's do our best to narrow it down to four and I'll start. It's got to be getting better. He's a legend in every way in Columbus. He's massive as they might say there he's MLS Cup winter MVP so to me. Jim Shaw though is unquestionably. The first name that goes on mine crew Mount Rushmore. Who's the second you could choose from here? There's Brian McBride. Is Frankie Hejduk? Robin Frazier Stern. John Quasi hough was a hell of a player for them. I believe he's still right up there all time. Assist Chad Marshall People Wayne Cunningham Eddie Gaven Jeff when I look at this list. You really can't go wrong. Mcbride. I'd sixty two goals. One hundred sixty one games played Jeff Cunningham at sixty four goals. So he's the top goalscorer in club history and he was a hell of a playwright. Jeff Cottingham two hundred and three games played. He gwyn leads. The the club in assists. Zia did lead the club. Necessity is sixty one to sixty three. Chad. Marshall probably will go next for me even though he was stellar for Seattle he had two hundred and fifty three games played for the crew. Massive part of them winning the Cup in two thousand eight. Just one of those setbacks that you think of is just a absolute beast. He his foundation of his game being played was at Columbus. I'm GonNa Pencil him as in as number two when it comes to Big Time players for the crew and being on Mount Rushmore concur. He was. He was back to back defender of the year. Two Thousand Eight two thousand nine when Columbus back to back supporter shields and MLS Cup escorted. Mls Cup he is. The Best Defenders League has ever seen in terms of the career he had nonetheless in. Most of that career happened with Columbus. He's like Biro though. Because you can make damn good argument for HIM TO BE ON. Seattle's Mount Rushmore as well. Are you surprised or any of you actually surprised as good as John? Marshall was in. Mls that it never really took flight with the US. Wenzel Tate Charlie. We've all heard the stories about the Fitness tests at a at national team camp which adds no not not all that surprise shared. That's where we're difficult. He also has a player as a player being a awesome dominant in the air. Strike a ball like great tackle communicating. Like all the much quicker than people realize capacity them all now he he was great at a different world You know he has eight caps in a much different National Team Career. But maybe we'll get some stories about the fitness tests for Bob National Team. I've heard stories about Frankie Hejduk fitness tests where he marked the entire night and came back and won the fitness test. It was nothing like slept in a car. Right for instance. Two Thousand Eight. He wins unless copyright he's chugging beers with fans in the in the tailgates two thousand nine was my first January camp. I'm coming in Jenin. Frustrated comes on with his Oakley glasses. Just chugs what he comes with a gallon of water to but just chugs coffee. That's it. Skopje is just like dude. I'm here for the fitness Cardi Dude. I'm like what are you going to stretch when I was like dude? I'm ready to go to the fitness. Might this guy's going to bomb it like the Es sneakers on everyone else's like running and clean you know you wanna you WanNa make sure you cut the edges you you you save all the time you can on these fitnesses. He just crushes everybody. And then after everyone's gas tune where we go for lunch breath. This is a machine and was like every day is a machine and eighty plus cabs to the US. It was a little split which I thought was interesting in the comments on twitter about whether or not you belong here. I mean I think he does. I think it's a no doubter. Brighi hitter I think it's no brainer. Yet absolutely no-brainer. Just saying that's not how the fan side so I don't know that it's fair for us to say it that way. I would surprise when I looked in the all time list. That he's not anywhere in terms of like appearances or anything like that. When you look at the way the vote went on facebook I think in one of the crew fan groups. That was McBride in skeletal. First and second and then hey tied basically with Eguaveon for third slash fourth. So He's definitely not those top two. I think it's GonNa be hard to leave people off this list so I think people's third because I am Charlie I in assists thirteen goals. Top Five and appearances was the face of the team for five or six years. Took them to an MLS cop that they were able to host a huge moment for the team in the city. Got Them through some rocky time more lately as the guiding light for their group so I think people should be. The man that goes down third. I'm not questioning that hate. It should be on there. I think a lot of what hated gets his off the field and post career his time around Columbus and what he's met which I have no problem with. Yeah you mentioned that but Mount Rushmore. My Man deserves you. Say Top four faces of the club. Frankie hitter what. You're talking about a guy one of the four but you're talking about guy who won trophies at right back next to a defensive player in the year and Robin Frazier and a defensive player of the year in Chattel Personal Netscape. And that doesn't take. Maybe but you're looking at other guys and I'm not saying he's GonNa win over it. Any Gavin lead parts of the team. Where Frankie Hejduk was a great right back when he was in Columbus. It wasn't the elite Frankie hate that he was earlier in his career. And I don't know that you can say if he wasn't there the team wouldn't have won. I mean he did one of the great overlaps. I've ever seen what a ball from Sokoto I. I understand what you're saying David. I disagree. I think he was consensus. Best right back in. Mls for about the first five years he was back in Columbus now. He did miss much time with the national team and he didn't miss a bunch of time with injuries every now and again but all three he was the starting right back for all three of their supporters shield winners starting right back for their analysts cup winner. He's stayed in Columbus afterwards. I I just. I understand the arguments for other players but to me like defining layer clubs history. And you gotTa have the flow amount rushing the flow immortalized in stone. I need to see how the artists does that rendition. I think Brian McBride is the other one. All time leading goal score is alleged. You admit you know like he was a Chicago guy but he doesn't have the time a second job while competitions. You're talking about I think he I think. Mls goal cutting in. But I think all competent might be McRae either way. It's Brian. He set the tone so to me. It's Frankie in. Its Brian McBride in its Marshall and then of course. Gps You're talking about a snub list a mile long in frazier in Moore's Yvonne Guarini Cunningham and Gavin Stern John. This is truly a difficult one among the originals but to me that's the four. I agree I agree with you with reading. I disagree but you you got people over Frankie but I had McBride in as I do. I add Marsha locked in or whatever and I G. GPS locked in as those three at two of the other names that got mentioned by fans all thrown out there. I don't know anything about it but Mike Clark. Seven years on the team to mls all stars and someone said the snack bar should be named after Ali. Marina is that actually go deep cut as well. Brian Maisonneuve if Brian Maisonneuve hadn't like you still play two hundred games for the crew. And he was one of the best central midfielders in. Mls out the gates and this was after like destroying his his knees and his ankles as like a twenty year old. I think in college. He was one of the best players on ninety six Olympic team. If he hadn't gotten hurt that that like it's not as big an injury as guys like went. Mathis or or John O'Brien But it's like a level down from that. Brian Maisonneuve was awesome for that team for a good long while and he's still in Columbus as well. I think he's actually would you? Would you put him over Robert Rusia now as like you know what I'm saying is if he hadn't gotten hurt? I think he's a guy who would have had like fifty sixty national team caps in multiple World Cup appearances and all that but us over the you know well no charlie. We've had some bad luck national team. Can I make an executive decision on the best team of all time in crew history? And just it's gotta be two thousand eight. It's on quest yet by two thousand eight hundred. Kenna you're part of the method random time bracket. You'd better hurry. Cause under is telling US producing is starting to tap watch. I was studying in England during that. Mls Cup and I had a the my local pub. The bartender loved that I was American league soccer and he opened up to stream that MLS Cup final for me from L. A. I don't know or I guess it was tied eleven pm whatever time it was and he was like. I came in the day before May. Mls Cop tomorrow like you coming in. I've got a TV in the back for you. I was like Oh hell yeah dude and he was so jack throughout the whole thing was so pumped thank Columbus for that experience and I think Deidra Nice I love you got stand. I just watched a guy playing soccer with beer empty beer cans in the middle of the street in New York City at one. Pm on Monday afternoon. Twenty twenty four zero four zero one. Two zero six zero s extra time in Amazon Dot Com. Please hit US up. Text US email. Us that help us entertain you? Entertain US please. We'll end here with the League Bay from La as promise. He says he loves our show. Thanks so much for being around for still going during this time. It's a fun and welcome distraction now. The good part full respect and appreciation to Charlie Davies. Bulut his column Beckham being on our Galaxy. Mount Rushmore is plainly wrong using his own reasoning about what Beckham has meant to the team in the league. You have to realize what Marie associate where it goes. Mitt to the galaxy and MLS during his own time having such a skilled player from his background in the squad got Hispanic community fully involved in the team in the League at a time it truly needed real fans and it's because of players like see where it goes and horror compost that you had further years of Quality Central American and Mexican players come into the League in raising its playing level. Rising attendance is league needed the audience. What's up GonNa say who had more of a presence in that community Composts or see him goes. I think you're undercutting the El Salvador community in L. A. But I know I'm not. I'm just saying who had a bigger supposed to let me finish this fleet band. La has the floor Bro. Come on give it a sorry. All right I lost my space. Snacked Philippe is like your cousin. Birth very needed Hispanic got into survivor early days. So the same logic that you wouldn't have done without Beckham you would not Beckham if it wasn't for seeing where it goes helping. Keep the team relevant. If you don't believe me come sit in the stands with me. Look around all the jerseys still being worn. You might see almost as many Beckham Jerseys but considering how long ago for it goes planet in how much smaller of an audience the MLS was drawing in those days. It means that much more. If he says it should be Kobe's imported goes landed in Beckham says he loves Robbie Keane but if he's going to be on the Mount. Maybe PESCOLIDO has to be there too so big La PERCENT IN CHARLOTTE. I love fully bay. But that's a questionable. Take right there we all get our time in the sun. All right I love it and I wanNa say if Li-pei I wanna see what it's like to sit in that the LA riots squad. We'll get Charlie in there at some point here. All right we gotTA GET OUTTA here. Honors wants to get us out. He says we're taking up too much time. And of course we're trying to exploit in DR teams for Thursday. We'll do it on to all right. Do Call Four one two zero six. Charlie why are you so absorb less because I want I want? I want to know who do it do it? Give me one second Charlie. What I already tried this with you and all your got him. I got the more numbers. Okay Charlie give me your first number twelve that will be NYC AFC and give me your second number. Second Number is twenty three. We don't have twenty three teams left to pick from southern snow on twenty How INTERESTING NEW YORK? Red Bull Case New York show and all New York at the stone New York Darby River Darb coming on Thursday. All right folks have great. We're GONNA save stay sane. Stay healthy consomme. 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TRR374_08_12_19 - Vinyl - Matchmaking

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TRR374_08_12_19 - Vinyl - Matchmaking

"Hey they're ralph garment here and thanks so much checking out this free edition of the row report. If you like what you hear do me a favor subscribe to the ralph report so we can put some fun in in your ears five days a week and you can listen for as little as three dollars a month so subscribed today so you know miss out on any of the fun go to patriotdepot dot com slash slash the roth report and sign up welcome to the ralph report with ralph garman. Well hello there. Boys and girls. Welcome to the ralph report if the brand new week it's monday today is monday goes well so happy to have you with us. I know sometimes. It's hard to get your your heart and your brain started the beginning of the week. You don't wanna deal with it but we're here to help. I'm your old podcast. Powell ralph garman sitting here with me in the bad gave is the vice host mr eighty pence. Hey hey everybody first things. I thank everybody who showed up yesterday for the live stream video events. It's almost like a mini a live ralph report when he was we. He discovered yesterday the sears thing being technical idiot. There's all kinds of magical things you can do with technology that i'm just an idiot. That was seems pretty simple though yeah i've never really been on that end of the broadcast because usually you and i are in front of the camera and kerry runs the hose. A carry fails fills seaboards but no. I should have done some research into okay if we're doing these things. What kind of fun things can we do with it. I just figured you turn on the camera answer some questions to say goodbye. That's what i thought it was going to be so carry discovered yesterday that you can actually add people into the livestream event by clicking on a button and and steve ashton our u._k. Correspondent was on hand as usually is and we were able to dial him in as well and he played guitar. We had a musical band and every laughed and sang bang and it was a joyous occasion. Thanks to all you three and four star generals who showed up yesterday. We had a lot of fun. It was really blast a good show for you today as well on the comedy. You wanna know why i'll tell you why we are debuting e garment. We're finally going to try to make some matches amongst the garmisch. There's so let me wonderful people in the army. They should be procreating. Yes they should be in love and getting married and having babies every single one of them so to you single members of the army we we are going to <hes> try a little experiment here. We're going to start off with our boy fell. He is patient zero as i call him to see if we can make this happen. We're not quite sure still still even how it's gonna work but we're going to try it out today. The top of the show and see if we can find a good way to <hes> get philip date amongst the army also it is <hes> the usual usual monday steph. We got the top ten movies at the box office from over the weekend a lot of fun things in store for you but first before we go any further it is time for the ralph report citizen of the week yeah family over the weekend. She absolutely has to be our citizens. People again again. One guy dies half half of the citizens. The week of dead opera horai fifty percent of them dies. Suddenly you know you're the jinx. You're the mush but <hes> i think i think that's a pretty good batting average. That's our beds fifty. Let's see if we can keep this alive. Her name is julianne march and she he is my gal. She was the sole flight attendant on a united airlines flight between chicago and south bend indiana. Now she had a little little bit of a problem on that flight and by little bit of a problem i mean she was passed out drunk on the plane while she was working taking on a flight. What would it can't be more like forty five minute flight or an hour flare nope. It's a very quick flight and so she did. I'm serious damage a for she got on board uh-huh at keep in mind once again she was the sole a flight attendant on the flight so there's no way she could have sort of blended in and not be bus to pick up the slack. Let me tell you about this. Week's citizen of the week julianne march according to passengers passengers she was stumbling kind of staggering back and forth bumping into passenger. She was zigzagging up and down the aisle said one passenger it. It was really most evident that she was drunk. When she started slurring her way through most of the standard safety regulations certain indicates <unk> oxygen masks to drop from from the ceiling may say you pull your own mess again before assist assist health system other passengers of shelburne. She then proceeded to slump over in her seat beat and pass out for what would end up. Being the entire duration of the trail interview snored one passenger had to get up and fasten her seatbelt before takeoff because he was worried she would fall over an out of her jumpsuit. That's very nice. The pilot noticed something what was wrong during the flight when march didn't answer any of her calls passengers were concerned over the lack of communication between the pilot and julianne march and wonder why there was only one flight attendant assigned to the flight upon landing in south bend indiana local police boarded the plane and arrested julianne march <music> who started crying. I would imagine when asked what city she was. Currently in julianne could only reply with sikato. She had no idea that she had actually landed in south. Bend man indiana. Her blood. Alcohol level was zero point two which is five times the legal limit ah for flight attendants. I don't want there to be any lose a limit for flight attendants zero zero for anyone operating a plane or we're working on a plane. It should be the one who's supposed to be drunk on the plane not you. I don't even want one drink. Somebody that eventually is going to have to release the liferafts officer do something yeah. She was charged with criminal public intoxication which is a misdemeanor and wisconsin air. Who's operating. The united flight released a statement confirming firming that julianne march had indeed been relieved of her job so she is no longer under the employ of united airlines but she is as our citizen of the bill the drunken flight attendant mike and she was working other flight so then we'll just do one flight lighten go home. No she must have been drunk or getting drunk on other flights dying to know the back story of what her day was like leading up to that. Was it the airport bar. She getting loaded on a previous flight what happened. How did that happen. Where she got so hammered. She was slurring her words during the safety debriefing and almost falling out of her seat passed out for an entire hour flight from chicago alabama on what what happened i don't i can't even fathom the there was no one else around and go. Hey don't don't don't believe ow julian march or you are juliette mark. Please put down the bottle and give us a call. Is i'm dying to. Let's be answered. Yes okay. It's time now to debut our new segment. This always makes me nervous every time we tried out something new. It's always a crapshoot to see whether it's going to work out or not especially this because there's a lot of pressure on this one. I wanna make sure this works. This is important to me not just for the show but for people's lives right and we're kicking things off with is listener phil phil called in a while ago on the ralph report hotline and told us a story about his struggles with being newly single after being a long term relationship a marriage about trying to meet new people just to refresh your memory. This is the phone call. That phil left on the ralph report hotline well. It's still from concord <hes> just seeing how the <hes> eager is going along. <hes> i ask 'cause. It's a saturday night. I'm a forty year old ebor say in the bay area and i actually went out and try to be social tonight and went to a bar club thing and let me tell you. I don't understand it <hes> first off. Everybody's on their phone <hes> yeah. I don't get that you know when you're a single dude at a club and <hes> you know i often end up having to go to bars and clubs alone since since i lost my friends in their civil war so i just seen how that e going so <hes> <hes> like mike my bottle service for that so hi thanks bye. I was so moved by fills 'cause i. Here's a guy out there fresh out to the dating scene again who could use our help more than a guy like phil. Yeah that's rough so i reached out to fill and i say we you have spurred me into action. We've been promising promising in this for some time now. I'm finally gonna make e garmin e happen. I'm not sure if that's the name we're going to stick with but people seem to be referring to it as that so. Let's go with it for the time being. Let's make this a new segment where we tried to introduce members of the army to each other in the hopes that maybe cupid's arrow will find its tar awfully absolutely yes so i announce the garment my ige armony intentions and you don't. We have a segment here on the show. We almost always need to have a theme song or jingle angled to accompany tradition. And who do you think raised. His hand jumped into the fray to provide us with a new gym. Only one name comes to mind is there's only one john on cooperman the legend behind holiday and holiday marrero and other jingles that you know and love said oh i got it. I got the the idea for this so john sent this now. I'm not saying this is forever. It may not be for the remainder of the show but you have to applaud his effort effort. He took it once again a popular song and made it his own with a lot of production value so i again i applaud the effort and a however. I'm not guaranteeing this. This will be a long-lasting jingle for the second k but this on the inaugural edition of ige armony. Here's our theme from john. Cooperman mitch mcconnell gone an early give their can draw hard truth. That's the jingle just put the prevent the production into he does he works hard. He produced as well but it does. It sound like it's it's i dunno. It's like it's like e grinder instead of ige armony. We totally get some root bear. Let's you're fine fine. Listen carefully to the participants in in the jingle look you. I love comedies but god everywhere should get there can draw <music>. God bless all right so i got a hold of phil. We sat down and had a conversation about his life about his attraction the things he likes to do i tried to give you a real sense of who fill would it was is this and what he would be like on a date for you ladies out there so here it is is fell from concord california up there in the bay area in northern california. Here's my conversation with phil and here. He is patient zero as recalling him for this new experiment called e. army at least for the time being it is my buddy phil. How are you sir. I'm doing quite well today. Phil we got your phone call and you were talking about getting out there in the world as a single guy coming out of a relationship and how tough it is <hes> now you're you're a divorce guy guy right that is correct okay so it's been awhile since you've been in the dating scene correct and you are anger concord california yeah up in the bay area outside oakland okay okay so for any of the lady listeners of the row report horror in the area of oakland and san francisco. What's your general geographic desirability zone the oakland san francisco. I don't mind going into the san jose area all right great now. Tell us a little bit about yourself. What your age sir. I am forty years old all righty righty and what kind of woman are you looking for phil. What's your ideal in terms of the kind of person usually click with. I like <hes> down to earth <hes> kind of on the hippie side. You mean hippies sixties. Hey dude what's up peace and love or hippie like you like a nice nice set hips. <hes> well both got someone that's into goop it definitely someone that <hes> you know like earth like being out in nature god. I kinda think gotcha gotcha. Why have done a lot with high maintenance but i i'd give that a try okay <hes>. What kind of activities do you enjoy. What do you do for fun. <hes> i likes to go hiking camping before kid. They used to like to shoot on film and spend time in a dark room. <hes> haven't done that since for some time even although he can still do that anymore. Absolutely you can see you have an artistic side but you also like to be out there in nature as well yeah <hes>. I'm a my dad. <hes> ah i like doing things with my kids especially like you know i i. I'm involved in the p._t._a. <hes> i try to help out of the classroom. I built a afloat for the homecoming parade and and games for the fall carnivals. That's way i like to get out. My artistic. Side is kind of you know working with my hands building stuff stuff. <hes> ladies come on. He likes kids he where he works at his kids school. What more could you ask for. This guy sounds like a catch did you have you had any dates eight since <hes> your marriage ended have you have you had any relationships any luck one time. Well you know another single parent at the school. I don't know that was just strange. Yeah yeah i can imagine at getting used to you know texting and and kinda bathing that way <hes> when i started dating you know the phone was attached to the law. You had uh-huh. I haven't so her parents didn't pick up so i. I'm not used to kind of all the technology used in it today. Gotcha i understand look. It's it's very daunting to be out there in the world. After a long relationship a lot of people can relate and what's your ideal first date i mean how do you like to go out and have a good time and get to know someone you you know i'll say i've been in the bay area for fifteen years and i still feel there's so much <hes> i'm missing. Am i don't even know about. I wanted to do more than just like dinner. Earn a movie so i don't know indoor rock climbing or one of those <hes> painting and wine things something a little bit more interactive than i've done in the past. That sounds awesome man. I want to date you. That sounds great. Well ladies there. You have it fill is looking to <hes> spend some time with a lady who appreciates appreciates the outdoors. Who has maybe artistic side got. There have a glass of wine get to know each other a little bit. No pressure something easy. Do you prefer to date a woman. Who's who also has kids or or not or does it matter to you found out that doesn't matter but you do have to understand that phil is dad and i i can speak as a father myself. It takes up a a big part of your heart so someone has to be willing to share you with your kids. They are a big part of my life so that yeah that'd be a consideration. What are the kids ages by the way. Do you have how many i've got. The four holy toledo fourteen eleven eight and <hes> five. You're a busy little beaver. Weren't you sir <hes> no i just i have a high <hes> <hes> batting average i guess well we know his sperm or swimmers ladies. If that's important to you we know that for a fact phil look i. I was moved moved by your phone. Call when you're called in. I'm so happy to make you the the first recipient of the e garmon help and what we're going to do is <hes> and obviously we'll play this interview for everyone and if there are any ladies out there in the area who are interested ross are going to post your picture up on patriot and then what we'll do is have a couple of girls hopefully hopefully <hes> right in say they're interested and then we will get their particulars. I will share them with you and you can make your choice and and then eventually hopefully weaken here how a date turned up that sound good that sounds very good <hes> in overtime do into and to write the old chuck woolery lowery yeah well. I really hope this works out for you. Sir as i mentioned your phone call <hes> really resonated with me and i was feeling for you and i'm really hoping that we can find some other row reported listeners out there who are looking for a good fo like yourself and we can set up if nothing else maybe you can make a new friend out of it. Absolutely absolutely that would be great phil. Thanks so much for your time. Sir and we will be in touch all right thank you how great is phil sound funny. He's funny. He's salt of the earth breath loves. His kids works with his kids. School flags. The great outdoors a good guy. Emma and he's such a good guy all right ladies now. It's your turn if you are are in the northern california area if you are in san francisco oakland san jose anything in that region and you're a single lady who'd be interested in a forty forty year old man who sounds like just great guy if you'd like to spend the night maybe doing some painting with a glass of wine or doing some rock climbing come on. What do you got to lose. That sounds like fun. If anything gets out of the house for the day that's what they in a lot of words vary leagues do with your night than spend some time with phil. That's what i want to spend some time. Take such a good guy. We had such a nice conversation and easy to talk to. I'm telling you i want this to work. So here's what's going to happen. I am going. I've got a photo of philly sat me one. I'm gonna make a separate post through patriarchal. Send it out to all the patrons and you can take a look at phil and if he catches your fancy at all and your lady up in that the area again. Let's try to keep it close so we can make this actually happen then. I need you to send me an email. Put fill in the subject line p. h. I l. put that in the subject line so i make sure i see it. I will read your responses and then depending on how many we get. We'll try to narrow it down to a manageable number. Pursue that phil can make a choice will run it past him. Maybe we'll have you come on the show and talk about yourself. Filkin listened to your interview as well and then ideally <hes> he'll make choice choice and we'll send you guys out on a date and we'll talk to you both afterwards and see how it went tells person right right. How can this now work. Oh i can think of so many ways so how will not work it's full but i'm hoping that it does not only fulfills sake but if it works fail we could start a thing. It'd be a thing where we help a lot of people or at least make some friendships out of those and you know already. You've got the ralph report in common you. You're both army member. That's your great jumping off point everything else. After that is great yeah you can get together on your first. Day goes so much to talk about. Did you hear eddie saying the other day. You can talk about stuff like that. Come on come on nothing but for the isis isis already broken exactly right. I'm breaking the ice four. You consider me your ice pick of love. Let's that's a shirt. I'm the ice pick of love. Let me plunged my eyes. Pick right into your heart. Wait a minute that is not right mouse basic instinct so there it is they love is in the air. It's e garm any mitch mcconnell good god. We should totally give their control to e a hey. How 'bout those harmonies. I'm not wanting to talk so i don't i love you cooperman. You keep swinging son <hes> right now. It's time to talk to you. Guys the gar me. We love to hear from you. Whether there is via e mail ralph ralph report dot com eddie or steve at that same email address whether it's on social or whether it's through your voicemails you can leave on twenty four for hours a day seven days a week on the row report hotline you know the phone number by now one eight three three <music> of to hear from you l. Listen to them all grab a handful put him here at the top of the show in a segment called me on the line yeah speaking of good guys jeremy called in and this this is another one of those phone calls and you have to forgive me if i play these a bunch but i'm always blown away by the folks who call in to thank us for making their their lives a little bit easier to deal with for an hour a day that just is so very satisfying to me and i get so moved by their calls that i have to share them with you. Guys is jeremy called in and i was so glad to hear from him. Hey guys <hes> it's jeremy here. I start john from canada. I just wanted to call and say thank you. <hes> i've been working seventy five hour work weeks and commuting about an hour and a half to two hours from home in the last month and a half and <hes> on miss beautiful friday afternoon after what is probably one of the hardest days i've ever had in my job <hes> i'm sitting in the car and i'm laughing at the show and <hes> it's nice and it feels like i'm hanging out with friends so <hes> thanks. There's a lot of us who have a lot of jobs in scripture. The guys have a great time doing there so love you. How nice was that size span and thank you jeremy for reminding us how goddamn adam. Luckily we are super. Lucky we are that we can do this for that. This is our job and it is something we love doing and we love being there for you. Guys and taking your mind off of whatever shitty job you gotta deal with for at least an hour a day and you're absolutely right. We are so lucky to be doing this and a lot of people aren't as lucky to be doing something that they enjoy enjoy and we're here for you at least for an hour a day doing the best we can jessica called and she was one of many who really enjoyed last week's interview you with robin. The boy wonder burt ward. It's it's gotten <hes> if not more than certainly as much responses any interview i've ever done on the show. A lot of people felt like jessica did high around it your favorite disco from orange or star general and <hes> i was just calling to you think you and mr ward or his interview it was just he's such a delight and it's such a wonderful will human being and it was just really really refreshing to listen to and man if i did not hear up when he talked about those three essentials for <hes> <hes> happiness and how terribly miss atom and i mean he really is the live. Now boy wonder her <hes>. Thank you again so much. Love the show and just keep doing what you're doing. Man alemi yep burt ward said you need three things in life to be happy happy. You need someone to love needs something to do and something to look forward to. He said if you got those three things you gotta pretty much beat yeah excellent violet work it would indeed i've <unk> bitch moaning about my teeth lately. It sucks today's the last day of my deep cleaning i go in a day and they're going to do the the fourth quadrant oh my upper left and then after that i'll be all done until the next week when i go in and they started drilling into the metal in my ahead <hes>. How do you get medal out of your head. <hes> not easily i. I would imagine i am i am. I'm like i don't even wanna really. Is this really really necessary. Assistant guy trying to make a boatload of cash offer me or do. I really need to do this while i heard from many of you who work in the dental field and apparently i do like emma. Hi ralph is emma orlina pixie from the fading in <hes>. I lack in a dental practice. I think i'm might might remember me telling you this when when we messed up in may <hes> and bad luck may i'm sorry to hear about all of your than to weigh the filling material is basically wanted to call them out. I mean it's got much to reenact you. Definitely definitely wanna get out. How if you pay as soon as possible. <hes> i hope you will as well and i love you. Mean it up by all right of do it got mercury. It's not going to go all well by the way because they're gonna shoot needles into my gums and then they're going to have to drill and pick and hammer metal so in my teeth until they get that out and then they'll drill the teeth get that old clean up and then i'll we'll get more stuff put in my mouth again sounds awful over and over and over again. I'm going to going to the dentist for the couple months getting all this love handles so terrible i've had a i had a ton of teeth stuff. When i was younger. Thank god right now. I don't have any problem and what's wrong with little mercury by the way thermometers right right and we like thermometers ellsworth sick mercury was really fast. He was the god of speed there. I'd i'd like to be fast so cool planet brian to so many good things with mercury freddie mercury freddie mercury loved the queen four lincoln mercury the car good thanks saying just the mercury is so many good things associated with it. What's wrong with a little bit living in my head. Turn i want to know and lastly tim called in eddie and i were both bitch pitch and moan and last week about how we were mocked in school <hes> i started because <hes> donny most the actor who played ralph mouth on happy celebrating celebrating a birthday and i said he tortured me with that ralph mouth character eddie complained about eddie spaghetti pudding pie stick a needle in your eyes french fries french fries cook them in the oven. I dunno his terrible kind of kids. You're hanging out with horrible psychotic kids well. Tim called in saying we we have no room to complain. Yeah get i refereed. He really <hes> four star general charlie ralph. I had you talking about rafts now. Alpina tell ya yeah. You ain't got shit on me. I just fucking south pop into thing a thing in the world and bloody can every gam fought while there's probably more extreme yeah no it was it was fucking hills eliminate. He's had enough that woods would suck that would suck of. You're going around that would blow and every time what's your name timmy timmy. I would go with a different name him tim here that much. They're coming back with jim. Thanks thanks everybody who was in today's army on the line with you. Too can be featured at the top of the show but you gotta take that first step. You gotta call me in. This one's talking officially a morning uh hey they're ralph garman here. 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Rows gone <music> today. August twelfth is national vinyl record day. Look i know a lot of old timers like myself say i miss the good old days of the l. P. i. jarred having that big old record in my hands and i had looked at the cover art nad read all the miracle in the i know i know we say that a lot but i it's true. I'm goddamn miss album it was i missed the the cover art a big old square full really cool and you could read the thing on the back while you're lying there on the floor listening to it on your turntable. It was something really satisfying about that was half the cool part of buying the album and not just getting the music but also the cover art and the slip on the indian. I would usually had lyrics. Sometimes you had a booklet or somewhere. We're more artwork on the inside was a whole thing was a package of joy was awesome and here's the magic you would buy the album for the hit single and then you play both sides of that sucker and you would find buried treasure that you didn't even know existed became some of your favorites like oh my god. I wasted all this money on one sometimes times that happened to but if i go now to spotify or if i go to i tunes or something like that i i just get the sing. I get the one thing that i wanted and i'm not really exposed to other. You'll hear them other music from that artists hardly unless you buy it really yeah so anyway. Today is the day that encourages you to listen to music music on vinyl records. I don't know if you can even do that anymore. I still have a turntable. I got a handful of vinyl. I don't have one anymore. I have some vinyls by a turntable go with it and they're not doing much good other. I'm i'm saving if when i can actually buy a turntable and play them for those who don't know what we're talking about music used to come to you on a flat disk with a groove in it gonna plate eight and you'd put a needle into that groove and the vibrations would go through the needle through the sound system through the speakers and play music. It was kind of a magical supposed to be still. L. sounds better than digital music. People say i've heard that that's maybe just nostalgia talking. Some people say that's not true but they do say. There's a sort of warmth that you get from vinyl record. You don't get from the digital that you don't get from digital almost to clean pristine to your and somehow it. It's now you see by. The wave form is different too. It's a smooth wave former former audio for audio wave sure one digital's more jets all say what you're saying. 'cause it's perfect. Oh i got worse. Analog is wavy <music> our and we like wavy. I went waves was smooth. That's probably get the warm sell. Human beings like waves more than squares that makes sense. There are three different kinds of vinyl records. You'd get seventy eights back back in the olden times as before me for everybody but then they went to the thirty three and a third and what those numbers mean is like that's how many revolutions per minute it would would be on your turntable in eagle to whatever speed the sound was recorded at onto that <hes> dip right and then for singles. If you just want at one song you get a little seven inch record. It was called forty five. Go that spun at forty five rpm ahead to adjust the speed on your turntable yeah. You don't play one another. Take the chipmunks and you get drunk eddie pants on one way or the other so <hes> yeah. If you have any vinyl by the way says here i had no idea vinyls records left the mainstream. When do you think they stopped making most music on vinyl. Oh i think i bought my last vinyl was probably eighty six or eighty seven nineteen ninety one that really final really just disappeared stores. You couldn't get albums anymore but more and more artists just now releasing stuff on vinyl all the time millions due to it's made a resurgence. It comedians a comedy albums on the so on this day. We salute the vinyl record. I'm still a fan so so we will absolutely celebrate national vinyl record day. It's also national middle child day middle child only two kids in your family right yeah me too who i was the youngest of two and they say middle children suffer more identity issues than older or younger kids in the family. I could see that i say firstborn is often the leader and the role player they have to ship the youngest one is the baby of the family and usually they benefit from all the the benefits of the older they get away with more right for the parents retired and the middle child's role say is undefined so so it can be difficult for a middle child to know where it fits in the family what its obligations are supposed to be we take so much from our social cues from our family is supposed to behave and and they say can really struggle so i say on this day. Make sure you make your middle. Born family members feel special because sometimes they feel like they don't have a clear cut role in the family my friends with three kids they do set aside time to focus on the middle child makes sense. We should do that with all the key should but but they say society doesn't really give a lot of social cues to the middle kid so they maybe need a little bit more guidance than most marcia marcia marcia that dan radi thing exactly so we'll celebrate national middle kyle day. Today is also national julian fries day. Julianne fries eddie was julian fries now. It's not a name of sounds like a name sure way. You said it sounded like the name it 'cause. It's the name of french fries purse. Julian fries are those real thin what they call shoestrings used during the fried yeah gotcha but they're called julianne liang because that's how they're cut that styles called julian cutting you can cut vegetables that way you can cut any number of things with but the thin shoestring fries are known as julian our is. Let's day they celebrate. That's not the thin like mcdonald's french. Fries are thinner than shoestring is thinner than the normal cut fries well that would still the wedge cut like the steak fry. That's i think they that's the two differentiations. Mcdonald's fries would still be consecutively okay because of the of the style of cutting. 'cause you get those really skinny one yeah. They're almost like doc. <hes> potato sticks snack reality was like just like eating potato chips. They're cutting long slice right. I think any variation of that form is julia because then the other side side is the wedge steak fry larger friday and i got no time for that don't like a potato. I don't like the big fry. What's the point because you it's never cooked on the inside side. It's almost like eating a baked potato crunchy a nice well done steak fry real crispy on the outside but you'll riser better thinner fraser by you eat those more those those are more available because they're better. That's why we eat them more. They're easier to cook. You like steak fries yeah. I don't eat them all the time but outlive. I go to fat burger. I get the fat fries. Uh not for me to potato well. What does it ted awhile. You ask on the insides of potato mayors potato who much potatoes potato inside those big for not alive. I like more crisp less meat survey my potato so this day we can still sell and haha but you're saying oh wait a minute. He just did the food related holiday. He screwed up. What about indepence wrong. There's yet another food related holiday. We are you talking about yesterday. Livestream you excited. I was excited because i literally had no idea how it was gonna go very rarely. Do i not have an inkling of whether eddie pencil eat something or not so. This is a true adventure for me as well. You know what i do. I talk about the holiday then we pull the handle of the patented depends jackpot slot machine. If three of the items come up on the rails sales. There's a big payout and i actually screamed do a little dance because it means eddie pence eight something if there's <hes> something else comes up on the third real that means it's just business as usual no with eddie pants all right today's very exciting. Do you remember eddie and you're youth. Did you have the good humor man. Did he come around in his truck and your neighborhood. It wasn't good. It was just ice cream. Ice cream truck wasn't goes straight up good humor man. We didn't have that and they had the best selection of ice cream novelties as they were back in the day. All the different flavors prison styles very specific things you could order from your ice cream vendor. This was my jam okay. This was my jaune as they say in philadelphia. Yeah this was my choice more often than not or maybe maybe i went with the e. Claire bar which was frozen chocolate on the inside side wrapped around the stick and then vanilla ice cream and then chocolate on the outside and that was out good that sounds good but today's day it's national toasted almond common barred day. The national toasted almond bar day. That was a good humor treat that you can still get today. You can buy them in stores. Though i haven't had a longtime the toasted almond bar was vanilla ice cream with an almond flavored core at the center where the stick is then covered by diced iced almonds and cake coating on the outside so it was like biting into an almond covered cake with ice cream in the middle and then almond flavored ice cream even further further in at the core. It was orgasmic toasted almond bar. Okay loved it so much on a hot summer day. I run on my chubby last down the block to try to catch the good humor man. Get me a toasted shit. I love it when you got home. I guess it sounds like you were going to do it. I made love to it with my mouth mouth eddie. I can still picture that i would take in slowly sliding of my mouth and national toasted almond bar day. Let's find out whether it's something that he would eat or not. There's so many variables nuts in it and there's things and sticks into knows what's going on. Let's find out it's handle one in two almond bar three added wow now i'm guessing. You've never had one of these vice description. You're on board nailed it yeah. I'd never actually had one but it sounds like something like something. I would to try and probably like because it's got everything i kind of like so you're in your almonds. Your okay with all lose track of your nut orders. Thomas some nights like a hershey bar with almonds uh-huh okay so this is the addition of onto vanilla ice cream and then a cake coated on the outside all right wow what a way to start right off the week eat something and we get to celebrate national toasted almond bar day. That's it for today's holiday or holiday maria maria running bennington arena now. It's time to take a look at all the entertainment news with a segment i call the show biz beats on monday mornings. We like to take a look at the top ten movies at the box office to see what people went to see over the weekend. No surprise here at number one fast and furious presents hubs in shaw once again. Take the number one spot while america america was that wanna make made another twenty five point four million the second weekend. It's a real good second. Wow is <hes> about five five million more than number two which was scary stories to tell in the dark. We talked about this year modell s._o. Film that i wanna see it looks terrifying twenty point eight million dollars that that was good enough as i mentioned to put it at number. Two lion king made twenty million dollars that was number three is pretty evenly spread out this week. He was like no one knows what really goes top up for dora and the lost city of gold for a kids movie respectable numbers seventeen million dollars at the box office once upon the time in hollywood still hanging in there fairly strong with eleven point six million dollars that was good enough to make that number five this weekend the art of racing in the rain fox do do you and your dog narrated movie made eight million dollars from some people who are just stupid sappy. The people who love dogs talking to him. He isn't here the dog talking to now. Narrate jews die like racing. I used to oh to go down to the rich drake select pat nozzle kevin conscious about a hundred and twelve in this movie number seven ooh ouch warner brothers is licking. Its wounds as the kitchen. Their new female mob movie came in at number seven with a paltry ultra five point five million going down at the bar. That was just a weird. What a bad idea. An obscure comic book bad cast for an african seems like an action movie. The i guess comedy now just really ill-advised just across the board go one way or the other women don't spiderman far are from home came in at number eight five point three million dollars. Toy story four was ninth and then bring the soul. The movie came in at number tearing the soul. Bring the saw. The movie is a movie featuring b._t. 's are you familiar with b._t. 's no they are a korean boy band. I saw them on a <music> salad or conan or something. Seven of them in a korean boy band called b._t. 's which is short for bank thanh sonia. Dom tom like see why they call him b._t. Esu or just rename it and they are just these androgynous sort of smooth in korean boys were non-threatening. I guess to prepubescent girls and america is just going nuts for solomon. I think i'll call bear they. Since it was the ed sullivan theater they did like a made. It look like they were the beatles song in the black and white right yeah. I don't see what the attraction is. It's it's it's nuts. Steve ashton's kid apparently crazy rarely yeah and they are an international phenomenon and music is just the biggest may you've ever in their live performances choreographed very well like most boy they got the moves but i mean to choreograph that many moving parts at one time it was pretty i think they are sort of like the korean menudo. I think you can age out of the biggest have a ranch somewhere. They keep raising plug programming children so at number ten and they came in with their movie <hes> the b._t. S movements a this is no surprise to anyone ever miley cyrus and liam hemsworth are splitting leading up after you know after six months of marriage offers a real who could have seen this coming since they broke up and got together about eighteen meantime while they were dating what made them think that their marriage could last when they couldn't stay boyfriend girlfriend for more those still going to have any hope now with this yeah well miley single have a date with her up in northern california yeah miley and chris. Excuse me liam hemsworth have <unk> separated. They've been together for ten years off and on just stay away from each other and they've split up probably ten times in those ten years. That's jets your your body's going. We do not like this other person. That's the indicator right there. That's the barometer forcing it so she's single and she was seen partying and lake komo italy because that's what you do when you have a bad breakup and you're famous go hang out lake como and she was with a young lady named caitlin carter who has recently separated from her her husband brody jenner another douchebag as one of the generous yes. He is now caitlyn jenner's <music> son. They're all just breathing together seattle so awful people they've separated and miley and caylin vacationing vacationing together in italy and that's when paparazzi found them rolling around poolside making out with each of the two girls yes so that's the good side about being bisexual is that you don't you got twice as many chances. It's true everybody up with a hook up. After your bad breakup letter you with increases your odds significantly good for them more more love bad news in love this time for barry manilow in his husband manager. They are battling each other constantly eddie because manilow canelo stint on broadway is not doing well. Yes he did one of these short residencies on broadway a lot of artists doing right and it's making a lot of people people out of money but varies having a hard time selling tickets now he wanted to do one week his his husband manager wanted him to do a month and so oh they split the difference for with a three week stand at the lunt fontaine theatre and apparently the first week was sold out but for the next couple of weeks <hes> they're mostly half phil houses and barry's not happy as i told you so right and what's even worse is his husband is a salary salary salaried employees executive producer so he's he's making his full money but manilow is on the hook for the cost of the production so if he doesn't sell tickets he he might lose money on the deal while he's married. It should all be co. Mingled should be right but when it comes to ego sometimes <hes> show biz marriages. Don't work that way okay so maybe barry's not the draw. He wants to work better in vegas. I think he did it very successfully did see in vegas. I don't know why he thought new york would be a better choice always for him but if you're if you're gonna manilow vegas seems like the now playing because that's like a drunken fund. Go see those things they're broadway. There's so much like actual really a good look. My passover disney's catching some flack from its fans. They just released another list of films that they're going to reboot this time. It's for the new streaming service disney plus reimagining several of fan favourite films so much so that disney disney fans are starting to grumble a little bit about this endless list of reboots coming out of the house of mammals loan. One is home alone the latest classic. That's going to be rebounded a lot. The people upset by that cheaper by the dozen night at the museum is being remade really didn't that come out like two weeks ago. That's still in the two thousands. Look nothing is accurate. Everything is up for grabs but people are really upset about home alone. They said that is a perfect film. You cannot improve upon don't mess with it like you're ruining my childhood hood once again to watch. It is the claim of just don't watch it. If you don't wanna eddie they're going to destroy all the copies of the original. That's right. I forgot work out of existence kid rock and taylor swift or squaring off. Did you serve all this and i'm actually taylor swift fan. Fuck kid rock for making me take taylor swift. Exactly how dare you bet dude man wow he went on twitter on friday and blasted taylor taylor swift for supporting democratic position saying she was doing it solely to further her career. Here's the tweet. Taylor swift wants to be a democrat because she wants to be in movies period and it looks like she will suck the doorknob off. Holly weird to get their oldest move in the book. Good luck girl you. He wrote on twitter who is less relevant in twenty nine thousand nine than kid. Rock is relevant to a certain crowd is he i think i don't even know if he's got his fan base in nor did i think he does. He looks like a burlap bag filled with clem media. That's what he looks like to me. It looks like dr phil dress like kid rock. That's where he's like doughy now but those long stringy hair and the weird creepy mustache ashen the hat and all he looks like a venereal disease come to light cut holes in american flags and wears them respectful strange to me. I'm not aww fan but now i gotta side with why you make me do that. Come on another cause and celebrity celebrity crossing paths jason momoa still fighting the good fight over there in hawaii to stop that telescope from being put on hawaii volcano mountain mountain <hes> no it hasn't stopped yet and he apparently is not going anywhere until awkward tuesday. This is over. No that was the thing he tweeted. Sorry warner brothers. We can't shoot aquaman you too because jason got run over by a bulldozer tried to stop the desecration of his native land so he's smart. He's starting to rile up as the basis get. The fans fired up like what we can't. You can't start filming yet because you can't give up this protests warner brothers involved and then the people who want to put this telescope up. They're going to be in big trouble. This is not happening. He continued in his instagram post. We're not letting you do this anymore. Enough is enough go somewhere morale's so at the time the thirty meter telescope a one point four billion dollars scientific project by the way still plans on putting there telescope atop the highest point in the state of hawaii but these these demonstrators are not backing down. They got they got a knock it off and just go somewhere else. It's ridiculous a cumulus just go somewhere else long telescope. It's the sky right. Can't you look into the sky from almost everywhere in the world find different hire point somewhere and this is for you eddie pants who paramount has announced a brand new g._i. Joe spin off movie. Yeah yeah come on you. Love joe's fucking go. Joe was are so bad. They're making snake is based on snake eyes. I know they they butchered the first two so badly just stopped those live actions films stop but now they've got the guys behind mission impossible ghost protocol okay. They're writing the script for snake eyes and they just added another spin off film to the mix really yes. This sounds great lady jaye g._i. Joe chuckles chuckles chuckles. Do you know chuckles is i'd not familiar with shop. Apparently chuckles character from the nineteen eighties line of action figures cursed debuted in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven. I was just out of g._i. Joe at that time and was in the beloved. Marvel comics run as well. He debuted an issue number sixty. He's known for his undercover and infiltration work shackles. Are these from doing spinoffs from the original movies that were established or is this a whole new job. This is from the g._i. Joe <hes> you're right but the ones already shot still count as as hanan quote unquote those are gurbaj no but this is apparently you're going to be action packed full of highlights charles. Well chuckles is hard character to sell unless you're gonna make it funny unless it's like deadpool kind of thing. I don't know how you make taylor yeah. You can't call chuckles. We could word once you all right. Let's take today celebrity birthdays. All these stars born on this day a monday august twelfth keith stanfield from atlanta also from get out really touted injury twenty years old today actor casey the athletic celebrates his forty fourth birthday brother of course van singer guitarist. Mark knopfler of dire straits celebrates his seventieth birthday today that you play the games. That's the way actor george. Hamilton is eighty years old today still design umbrella eat did he do. He looks amazing. I saw him not too long ago. Steve ashton and i ran into him at a bar in hollywood when st was out for the last live ralph report and he looks handsome and still put together and he's got this shock of white hair now and he's got the perfect tanda india. How does he not have melanoma. Don't know all he does is tan his skin. He gets so much vitamin. It must be so happy so much vitamin d. He looks so much better header at eighty than i ever looked in my entire life. There's no age with which i could compete with george hamilton eighty it might be attitude is just as attitude attitude and he really was much of a star he just sorta got famous for being famous right. He's like one of the first people to do that. His most famous role is of george hamilton. Yeah i'm saying like he was the first of that people to get famous or just being famous although he did play evil knievel in the life story of evil knievel. Have you ever get a chance that good. It's called called viva knievel. I think is good. It's not but it's bad and like the best possible way cheesy good yeah so you might like what he's good for. Maybe we should do do a ralph's video vault on evil evil story. I'll play some clips because it's pretty pretty mattress. Actress jennifer warren is seventy eight years old. She became a very popular popular director as well. She starred in night moves with gene hackman. What else would she the seventy. She was like the go-to serious dramas then she became a director and now she teaches film um at u._s._c. now. Seventy eight years old singer kid creole of kid creole and the coconuts is sixty nine years old today the the nine mcdonald's does the the band kid creole always had that zoot suit on with the big hat played like funk mixed with latin flavor and a big band. It was like this weird amalgam of music but i go party loved this stuff stuff yeah actor bruce greenwood is sixty three years old today peter krause from parenthood and six feet under and sportsnight fifty four years old. I think right now he's doing rescue nine one one yes. He is. I think is actress. Sam jones is sixty five years old. Today i start with sam jones in that movie ted. I i didn't really start with them. I never met the man but we were both in that film but he's probably still best known as flash gordon <hes>. Maybe we need to go through that. I saw it in the drive through. I was a kid drive in drive. All drive-in drove through into the driver. You'd have to drive through so many times in order to see the whole film gets. Keep getting to plan rise. <music> over julianne tries the guy working the window had it on television and you wanna see what happens with magnum. Arizona has put his hand on the iraq. I love that film so much michael ian black. How funny is that guy. He's from the state is where i i saw. He was also an ed and just he's hot american summer. Yep forty eight years old today. Actress kara de levin is twenty seven years old. She's god damned awful. I will fight anyone on on this. They keep putting her in movies used to be a model and she's known for those giant caterpillar eyebrows and she can't fucking acts what she'd been in how boy god damnit. Please hold <music>. We know your time is valuable. Thank you for holding someone will be with you as soon as possible <music> and we're back. She was in valerian and the city of a thousand planets. Whatever that guy crappy happy move but i remember hating her so much in suicide squad oh she was awful because she was the witch doing that dance. Remember <hes> hate it awful in everything aero. Stop her stop her. Now i demanded she's twenty seven so happy birthday car jazz guitarist pat and athenee any one of the legends sixty five years old today actress yvette nicole call brown from community is forty eight years old actress. Rebecca gerhard also forty eight guitarist roy. Hey of culture club's celebrates his fifty eighth birthday today day. <music> actress maggie lawson from psych is thirty nine dominique swain from faceoff and lolita is thirty nine years old and rapper sir. Mix salat is fifty six today the you know what he likes. Nobody likes you know hey hey you. I'm talking to you know what he likes. <music> yeah big bugs. I like you girl walks around in your face you notice that the dc i wanna get japanese voice. No one seems smooth skin bands. The average grew be sweat wet. Gotta go on turnbull but what's average command and ask him. She got much back so fellas pilfering shake that healthy baby in l._a. Face with the oakland booty god damn. That's the best song ever. If you weren't shaking your ass when that song came on you are dead go see dr. Did that was our song to be tweak my senior year. It was played the entire everybody song each week for everybody. Senior year came out. Oh i love it so much anyway. That's it for today's celebrity birthdays garment. I walked show biz beat. What a fun show today. Don't forget ladies if you live in the northern california area san francisco san jose oakland and you're single. Let's get fill a date. What do you say forty year. Old deboer say data four fill the needs some fine. Let's give him a daewoo it. He's a nice guy. You can go see the picture again. A patron dot com will throw it up. There and i'll send it out as a link to everyone you. That's it for yourself so let's make this happen. That'd be fun. Tomorrow is tuesday around here. That means we take a look at your favorite tv. Themes of all time also steve ashton will be stopping stopping by with the brand new u._k. Update we gave steve a bit of a hard time yesterday on the <hes> live stream. I hope hope against we as more you okay when is just ripping. Are we there but i was. I was maybe poking. A little fire me for an extended period of time is instagram and his is <hes> his <hes> social media four five minutes of i poke there was some poking stabbing <hes>. I'm a little nervous about talking to me. Yeah i mean find out tomorrow. Won't you come on back because i love you a mean by.

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#802 - Rudy Sarzo

The Church of What's Happening Now

1:41:00 hr | 3 months ago

#802 - Rudy Sarzo

"And as the COPS, greetings from podcast, Ville, the church or tap, and now is brought to you by on listen. It's been a long four fucking months. A lot of people going through different things. Especially me Alphabrain was dead for me. Got Me Right. New Mood was there for me. Help me relax at night now. They got the bills. Does the total? fucking tremendous I love the way protein, but listen alphabrain brains the way to go right now. You're not focusing. It's hard to right. It's hard to do on it. People just going through a lot of weird things listen may I go with Alphabrain by April I was on Alphabrain and I've been back ever since March. Beginning. April fucked up, gave the edibles a break, and I got Alphabrain, and I made sucking back safety. Do me a favor. What product can you buy if you don't like if it doesn't work? You get your money back and not have to send the goods. That's believed to have an Alphabrain when a company does that. 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It's not you don't fifty seven years old I'm overweight. Play basketball with Chuck Daly's. It's just wear and tear. I'm not telling you you pains. Go Away, but I tried that CBD tape. They certainly I gotTA. Tell you something. It went down fucking. If it was eighty percent, my pain went down to fuck in ten to twenty percent. I only feel it sometimes. When my leg gets stuck to have a great, they have great products bath salts tinctures listen if you look at the CBD, don't bother to look store, go to cbd Lyon read read and what they have available. What you Almaz, and what the cure is. Not The kill, but what's going to help you with that problem? Right go to the CBD LINE DOT COM I now present Church and get twenty percent off delivered right the motherfucker the house. It's Wednesday eight fucking July. Get Your Shit together. Take this fucking meal Lee. Excuse this is. The second stage going fucking Jen's damning. Church. Wednesday. Up Day for some slinging Dick Dave for others. You know what I'm saying. It's all up to you. Ever meet those people. It's Wednesday. Go Fuck Yourself. Would you rather be in Oswaldo ventilated? You're out. You're breathing. You gotta be fucking. Ted are jacked up popped up. I'm trying to put together a mixture listen. I liked smoking joints, but not really anymore. Yeah, it's just a pain in the ass to smoke. Sometimes I went in my collection I pulled that little fucking meal pipe I soaked in up all day. That's how I wrote to get the speed those miles out of there at the same time. I soaked the fucking had A. Nice Nice Soak, that cleaned up I clean up my bong three days off. I got a scrubber. I Dunno bad spirits in there. Thing looks top Magus fucking brand new, but anyway. I told you mother fuckers the one I do draw. With, some fucking Hash. These fucking thing who and it comes in this little glass thing listen to. Who Listen to this. I. So? I decided to smoke a little fucking high. She got two types. I got this one from the one I. Do and I got this other Black Slab Hash. Buddy gaming that the communist I've had this from a couple of months I just been saving it. You know what I'm saying. Sometimes you got to save. She just can't run home and smoke like a jerk off. You got to save it for a special occasion. Ate a piece before. Ash read some. Bruce, Lee stuff you haven't eaten. You don't even need is. I can't even look at girls as You. Would expect from me, but anyway I don't give a fuck what he thinks. It's Wednesday and we gotta get down. Is The motherfucking church right? The holy smoke has to blow big Tilles fucking microphone. Those people down. People don't know what to do, but Uncle Joey. You know what I'm saying that turn that frown upside down fuck. You mother fuckers slinging Dick and giving Bubblegum I. Don't give a fuck what you got spunk up a bowl of joint. I don't care. If you light your fucking, sing around fly. You got a firecracker thrown at grandma again the time. You would throw five crackly grandma auto react. If I had a might throw it out, but you know. Just to see them running shit. Grandma I used to have grandma you know Georgia's mother was my. George's grandmother was my grandma. And when I lived with them, she got a phone. Inside a room. And I would wait till she was watching. Letterman loved Dave letterman shoes. Panamanian as she loved Dave Letterman. She'd go in there at night. And wait till she'd watch letterman and I go out to the kitchen phone and. Pick it up in this way before caller ID. Eleven thirty call twelve and like call you can hear in the room going. Who? The fuck is calling me at at eleven forty five. And she'd pick up the phone I go. How. Just hang up the phone. With do this. Three times a night for about three months, and then and then I started doing it at night, and then listened the best one I would leave the house at seven, and what I get to the corner, I would call it again. Alabama seven thirty and it would. And she would fucking up the felony I come home for dinner. She'd be like somebody. Keep calling the fucking house. Making fucking nicest I'm gonNA find that. WHO IS FUCK? It is, and I'm GONNA fucking Gilliam Makoko my grandma a lot of crazy people out there. You gotTA deal with. Share enough. She goes in the bedroom. She gets slip design. She pulls the teeth that I would have flocked. Wow! This one. I even moved to fucking Colorado, and we'll do it, too. Right I come back and she's like fucking believe. That somebody still calling my phone and go. Grandma's. How she goes. You sat on Bitchy. Liuzhou. Grandma got. Some bitching. GonNa Wednesday at cleaner puppet spirits out. You. Know what I'm saying if you got listening. Refocus Corona. Flocked, let's go on. Olympic Brennan Shop. We've. Small River. It clogs up the receptors corona candidate. I think you might as well start smoking cigarettes to. You're letting up els backwards. I don't fucking on that and. everyone else is saying different things. Listening so much information, but anyway this podcast in about Corona Tequila talking Wednesday. is not the newest happened My daughter turned seven and a half today. One thing that did bother me I just lost something very disturbing. and. We need to address this right now on the church You know man I been on an uphill. Battle with fucking weight getting healthy. Since. Two, thousand seven and we'll take quit blow. A couple of months later, I thought about the damage done to my body. I'd seen it. I lived in Colorado once I saw. I told you buddy of mine until like. Alcohol class. You've got a bunch of DUI's. Before the you is are Dui's. They call them something else. and. They showed the effects of alcohol on the body. I never forgot that like when you drink, it affects a. This this your mind and I just remembered. And about the twenty years a cocaine I did, and I just said I gotta fix all these things I gotTA. Fix The dopamine levels in my mind, there was so many things I had I went to some doctors and talk to them. And I was very honest and very frank, but that that has been. My mission, you know pretty much now. I know real Rome. was never built on a day. Nothing's ever built on the day so. You have to look at yourself. Objectively. Go you know. I want to do these things. This is harmless doom and this homeless stick to with. It's very rare I mean. It's to the point now where it's very rare that I even just sell it at like Dave is. I don't want the baby I don't want my daughter growing up with Soda Mouse. So. We've been keeping a soda in the freezer. If somebody wants to soda, go out to the garage and. In fact, we split so me and my wife, even if their diet. Like I just. Every week I've been trying to do better over this Quarantine gave making. I'm not a fucking Muslim. I'm not. I got no religious asylum. When anybody, I'm not Jewish I just thought that. Two slices of Bacon this fourteen slices a week. You know. Getting older now, and you gotta take care of things and you know what gets more guys while the bullshit I talked to you guys about. That's what I'm doing. I mean egg whites. I'm not eating whites by themselves by your fucking. I rather have Hamas fucking filled in my balls. I scrambled eggs because I know it takes up more on my stomach. I need less fucking food. I was eating to sunny side up eggs, and just eating a fucking yelled with a piece of toast net. Don't do none for. Younger three hours later you take three fucker eggs for eggs, and you whip up some salt and pepper and some ketchup on that motorcycle. What I say watching eat. The Yoga is pretty impressive. It's a thing to see. You can hope hopefully believe rabbit fucked and cut around Bali goodfellas the garlic I. Bring my own Razor Blade I. Don't touch the White. The I walked eight the white, the taste of it as a kid. I don't know what I ate more, the white or the fuck and milk anything wight. fucking can't stand. Don't get me started so. I! Fuck it in the whipping up eggs and. Strike saved onto points. Get Two points so I get seven grams of protein per. Get Twenty eighth at breakfast. A piece of toast is two points and butter is one point. I just get like a little fucking Puerto Rican spread on half the piece I. Don't have to butter on the whole thing and it works if I don't do that I, throw down oatmeal, and that's what I've been doing over the break. If I if I, look at what accomplishments I made. That's it I wish I could have wrote a fucking ballet. Why could it wrote? Tommy. I could lost one hundred pounds I did gain some weight the first month of that because all this all levels. But I'm back down to my fighting weights I'm happy about that. I'm banging on the bicycle, but. I didn't I never took fucking when I was listening when I was. Seventeen, I was doing angel dust. I wasn't thinking about being fucking fifty seven. Would a family and a child and a podcast and doing comedy when I was twenty five. Eat another buddies at night going out of the salad prison. I was not thinking about being fucking fifty okay? When I was thirty. Eight going on the road uneaten food at the road onion rings that were going out of style. I never thought I would get to fifty and then when I was forty five. I stopped doing blowing. I gotTa Take Care of myself and little by little I made adjustments. I went the way watch again. I started at four o'clock eighteen and I started peeing my pants going ring for three minutes three minutes. I would piss my fucking bands Nike. Ride my bike the fifteen minutes you know on fucking stopped and the only reason why I stopped using my shoulders. Hurt Watkin. Hold onto the by so tight. 'CAUSE fucking flying down the bike with a fucking red. How milan-san! Tonight I saw a church member from day one in fact. He goes back with us to fuck and beauty and the beast. Talk about him or not, but he put a picture up, so I might as well talk about him, and not in a bad way. I'm using him as you know. To give him white for the church, and to give others the church. Sergio tasers a good man. Comes to. Ninety percent of my shows whether I'm in fucking Oakland San Jose San, Francisco, the Punchline cobs I mean Sergio, take I came into my life on beauty and the beast. He sent an email about. fucking in an ambulance or some shit like that? They didn't catch something like that on my that's absurd. He fucked stuck to his guns. Is like fuck you, you fat fuck? Town. You fucked my wife lamb veal to now add believable. He's fighting for it so. Excuse me let me take a hit off his hash I'm GonNa Roll. So. He's a good man. He's one of us. He's family and. Whatever he reaches out to reach out to him, he comes down. He brings his beautiful fucking. Families got a beautiful wife. Let's cut the chase tonight. He puts up for fucking picture. Of His foot with a bandage, which looks like a toll missing. And he said, don't let Diabetes Bob and. I mean I I gotTa Be House you guys I know Sergio. You know. As well is I know anybody else and. A T came down. My like I started feeling FAM-. He's got children. So I want to Church Sarah if you know Sergio, data. On facebook. Reach out to touch base on because that's what we do. That's what we do here on the church. We reach out to the wounded once. Then looking for twenty bucks, then outlook, and fucking you to take him to lunch that I'm looking for not like that. All they're looking for is to let you not. The church always has your back. Just let them know whatever he needs. If you're in the area, I mean there's some great people up in that Bay area. You know I'm sure you know Sergio from shows and stuff like that. I don't even know if I should be giving giving giving out this information I'm sorry if I am he put a picture of his foot up on whatever and some people were talking about glucose levels and. Whatever listen! I got fears. I'm. Not Scared of dying we're all. GonNa fucking die. We all have a fucking expiration date. One man knows it every day. He fucking reaches a canister. Picks out a fucking name saying or he picks out three names. We let's Jesus. Some Chinese guy that's walking by I. Don't fuck now. You know we, don't we? We don't have an expiration that I duNno. Expiration, date. What I'm trying to tell you fucking savages is that? Just try a little bit. You know I mean. Yeah! Maybe a little bit to me tonight. My wife made the stakes, maybe I a piece of her. FUCKING Touch the baked potato. I didn't touch the other you know. Like I, said I Fuck edibles I love him. The downside is the fucking. Eytan I gave my friend a can of that easy. Quick easy and he said that he woke up no night. And eight three bags of candy. Thrown in the garbage. He could stopping coffee, you know. I've been there I mean I can't stop my hands. I'm just chewing before I could think to stop like I'm. Shelvin Shit. I wish I was lying. I wish I was lying to you know. My wife found an apple in the fucking blanket the day you need that. A fucking apple in the blank must fall asleep, eating the fucking apple and the blanket. That's marijuana. That's not heroin. That's not alcohol I. Don't drink. I don't do deck. That's four hundred twenty milligrams whatever we did a good fight. Night at least you apple. At an apple, a protein shake has crazy. I I always have an APP. That's a rule. If, you're not hungry for an apple. You Ain't hungry. I taught my wife by up. To that ruin your high. Though no, it works. An apple takes a lot of space in your stomach. Yeah, so you pop one apple. Danielle a little hungry your pop per second that. Nothing wrong with that. Guarantee. You're going to ship the our member. What's the old saying? An Apple? A day keeps the doctor away saying that before at night, so you wake up in the morning, and the shift flies out of your ASS Pedo. There's no drama. There's no pushing. There's no reading the newspaper. And the Hell Poop the submarine flies out. You fucking put the day on your wipe a little bit, and you're often talking. Running site pop the to apple's. I'm a little hungry. I make a protein shake with three ice cubes and water in scoops, you know. It's not bad. It's thirty grams of protein I wake up at the money. I drink a coke American coffee I. Did I. Shot Express and wait for the fucking asshole. Just blow up. A pop to garlic pills at the ESPRESSOS to give to give the fuck of room some sent. To, let the route to make the paint fuck and dry I go to work jack. I'm an old man. I. Got System said You gotta keep that fucking parachute drop what I'm saying. What are you GonNa do oh, it's dropping. You gotta drop. Let me feel more bowl up. and. Then we'll get the moral fucking story. The idea that Jesus takes turn. Pick names get. Somebody punk of May. Even, Hitler One day. Today where he goes out there and picks a Jewish. He. Whatever the fuck he speaks I dunno lots buying. Let's smoke a little piece. Hash, we'll talk about later. WHO The fuck fucking? Criticize you cock suckers. What I'm trying to say to you is. Do me favor right last week. Felicia came over the house. Michael's who I love with all my heart. She came over to hang out with my wife. May We all had masks on? We sat outside, but she brought. Apple Pie! A bunch of fucking great stuff and that's my wife took a little spoon of the Apple. Pie that was it. I don't try to eat sugar at night. I avoided night like to fuck play because. That's how I think in my mind on become diabetic in my fucking fat little Cuban stone mine. I think if I was one day. I went to the fucking doctor. As I was walking in. I looked. I lost a cookie in the car. It look lose a cookie in the car. The cookie in the car. I can fuck and find the two weeks I'm looking for this cookie. I put the IPOD in the car and one of the backseat. And there's the fucking cookie sitting there like half melted. Like I'm not going to let that go away. That's one hundred milligrams. So eight the cookie before I wanted to the office. I didn't know this goes. GonNa Blast. Other drug tests Tommy. None, not drug tests. The blood hugged drug test. Why is this? Drug this. I, didn't he's GonNa drop a fucking blood test army. Saigo. Sure let me do the blood test fucking two hours later. I got a call in my house. Down here. What the fuck do you got in your system? What does all this Shogo? Talking, 'cause you went over the fucking mark like you fucking way. Is You ever been what's going on with? It's funny that you mentioned that night. Because obviously I'm not anywhere. What health, but I have noticed that eating sugar at night like if I don't sleep I, look at triggered might. Never used to happen like. Dean Dean del Ray has done has shown me. Even if you just cannot sugar. A ton of stuff. Like sugar. Dean del Ray Moore want. Dean del Rey. In spies, the fuck out of me. I fuck pick something up out of the garbage within. The writer talked much I loved being. I was riding my bike this morning and people are move. So Dean collects all speakers and shit like that. Summer Ed, My fucking bike I'm on the other side of fucking, Low Canyon. And No side streets there and I see flock in. Under a tree. I see an old school. Amplify out with four fucking speakers just. Like led Zeppelin type speakers from the seventies. Site called Dean. Dean moved to Valley and he didn't answer. And went home, and I called being again in the, and he goes I'm Lisa with Dean. Goal to this place. The address I go over there I hid in the bushes. I got off the bike. The amplifier for him and other things, and then I went back. People outside like fucking walking their dogs. And I put amplifying the back of the Subaru Oh shit. Fuck yet because I know Dino's. This people that are very good at that, not me. I'm not good at fixing shit, but as people will look something, open the back. Put a fucking wire, and it's brand new and surface. It repainted clean it up and go on Ebay. Yeah, that's your team. Does that all day long? I am mad at you if you hustling got another friend Damon. He's on E. Bay auto. Golf Clubs, and Shit, you know what you're looking at. Lesson does just the people you gotta do what you gotTa do but speaking of speakers and speaking of that. We zoom this weekend because of the. Coronavirus numbers spiking again. So I didn't WanNa bring him, but. I want to introduce my brother. He came in for his tri yearly check in. To talk about music during our what he's doing and his time, and what he's doing to fuck and battle the quarantine blues. Bring in Res Sisal. We WanNA rock. I'm a brother to the PODCAST. My main man might Cuban. Patriot my political prisoner of love. Mr Rudy saw Zo. Get. Bossa go Kobe Buzzer. So you haven't been to the gym since February February. Yeah, because you know, we've been on tour prior to that. And then the last show we did was EPCOT CENTER IN ORLANDO. They they. There's like an amphitheater there. and. It's you know seasonal eggs like every day. There's a band playing you know and we were supposed to be there for like three days. But we're. We're going to leave on Friday and say they you know they call management and say listen. We're GONNA. Need you guys to finish off on. Sunday because we're GonNa shut the park down on Sunday. Instead of bringing in a band that comes comes on Saturday, and only play for half of the engagement were rather extend. You guys engagement. And we went from like attacked on Thursday. Yell Tuesday Tuesday Thursday. When we first started packed house, not a single seat open I got photos to the last show we did. There were like five people. So Olympia that quick like the word Oh yeah. I took photos. Yeah, let's say shut down on Sunday. Sunday night. I would say by by Friday you could see trickle. People just not showing up. And? You've been home since March fifteenth. March fifteen. Yeah, I so more people at the airport than it did at the. Show. Yeah and I was quarantine how you handled it. Well so far since Marcello have been the oath thing, the quarantine is you know being a musician I used to isolation even if I'm in my hotel room, I got my base with me and I on Youtube on a Moore earning and expanding my. My, my musical! Vocabulary and just you know being creative I do the same thing at home. So. It's like another day for you. It's just like the day. Eight when you turn on the news. It's horrific to hear about is horrific, so that's not another day. That's something else, but you know just once in a while. Turn it off and give within myself. Find some peace personally because I was getting really angry. I got. I gotTA. Tell you about a month and a half ago to start it. You know with would start out in lockdown, right? We're lockdown down and I see messages on TV advertisement. You know we're. We're all in this together were a kinder peak bowl and combine. We're GONNA. Be Much better humanity after this. Immediately like. Six to eight weeks later. Bam. Everything goes to shit. There's rioting looting and I'm thinking what happened. You know people just snapped. It just fucking snapped. And that got and he's like A. You know domino effect. It just got to a point that reach me I was flipping out you know. Then I realized, wait a minute forty years ago, forty years ago I was sleeping on a floor with nothing totally destitute, no future no nothing but I was at peace. With God the Universe Whatever People WanNa Call Alcoholic God. And I was at PS, and it was like man. I gotta get back to that. Because I couldn't be any more blessed than I am and here I am. At War with myself. And the rest of the FREAKING, universe Kathy when you find yourself on isolation. Yeah Warranty, and you have wife you have. The dogs have the base. You have all these things, but as human beings we also have a thing called the mind. That's what we all share and I'll tell you during this. I liked to do a documentary and interview people. About what their experience was and how? They broke it down. How the levels of your frustration turn to anger fear. You went through every emotion. From April till. Two weeks ago, you went through every emotion in a book and it was high alert like. Your anxiety was high a few days that if you weren't anxious, you feel is high. And then you get all this information. That's nobody seems right. Like you, getting all this information thrown at you. and. Nothing seems right, but I found myself. The second week I was alienating I was playing with the baby and talking to them and eating dinner with them. But besides that I was hiding from. I just can't hiding from them. and One night I was in my office and I go. What the fuck am I doing? I'm at war with myself. My wife is sitting in that room all by herself. Let me, go talk to a talent. What's going on with me? Just so she knows I don't put a fucking gun in my mouth. Some because I would never even think about something like that. But there were nights during this that your mind wanders. Your mind wanders for you. It might have been a night. That third nightly Ozzy Osbourne tool where you flicked a cigarette, and it burns something God forbid I could let their auditory up and now it's you now. That you could live the auditory him up. You know stupid shit like that. Played with me so. When I made peace. My wife I wanted that thing and I told you what was on my mind. What I've been thinking about. We became our level of the relationship grew a bump. It wasn't even about years now more about trust I told her exact. Shit that. When you're man, you don't WanNA share with anybody. You know like I'm supposed to be a man I'm supposed to be the man house. But I still have my. My you know. You can't sit chinks in your armor. You know there's nothing wrong with being a man of the House and having a few chinks in your arm. So I went into the living room and sat with her talked with every. Let know what I was feeling. And told them to keep her eye on me and. Everything changed. Anxiety levels drop fee is dropped. The News. You cannot watch unless you're a glutton for punishment watching the news as an American. Is Me sitting you down tying up? And what's that Shit? They paddleboard when you're in one. WHAT ABOARD TO GET WATER BOY? You think by when you watch. The. Seventy eight, th, the three o'clock news and world news tonight your anxiety levels. Go up right up as you're sitting there. You got to unwind your legs. So, I made a rule Terry Number One TV in the daytime. He usually she put the TV on just to clean and walk around, and I would be in my office and I could hear Corona. Cases growing I'm trying to write something. I'm trying to focus on something and once you hear Coronas. Listen the TV can't go on until five then we pushed it to six. So now the TV doesn't go on till shakes. The baby wants to watch TV after camps. You GonNa Fucking Room Watch Disney, too. But there's no TV I. Don't want high hearing, you know. That was a couple of nights wearing the living room building legos. The TV's on the family room and you can hear the TV like. Eighty, people died today. Don't goes even though she doesn't react to it. It goes into ear inter. Psyche The first three weeks of March, he didn't want to go out pro. She didn't want to go out just from what she had heard on the news. Not from US because I. Don't put fear. That's I was watching her as a seven-year-old girl how she wrapped her head around this. And I started looking at I I started fortunate or go out as long as we have masks on. We can talk go. We started going out and we started riding bicycles. And Bicycle from the neighbor. And little by little, we took baby steps. You know was just baby steps, and now I'm okay. I'm not ready to hit an airport. I'm not ready to get on a bus or a shot with eight or nine bi-partite that much I'm not ready for another shit. I'm ready like even with you. You live a hop. Skip and jump and I was like Rudy. That's not even do it. This is going to be a bad week right? Here is a bad week. It's in the air. You know so, I'm happy. We got at least see each other. Yeah, usually we do our monthly over at. The Cuban joint, but I went there yesterday. To Cuban joint. Don't even have tables outside yet or no, you have to call order and take it in the box. Don't want to put Burbank. Tables out there. Like they're starting to put tables out there but any day now. The other side because people never satisfied because they're doing a New York do. If you go to New York now putting the tables out, and they put barricades on the streets, so people could eat like if it's a lot of restaurants in Red Bank New Jersey and places like that. You'RE GONNA, get the people I I'm handicap. Chan I can't go through. I can't walk through. Going to be somebody that bitches any day now within the I'll bet you five American dollars. Within a week somebody's GONNA raise their hand and say the disabilities act is GONNA sue new. York City, because they can't get through with that one leg. Whatever the fuck it always somebody was unhappy with something now. You cannot say social media has become social media was fun. It's not even fun no more. When you go on social media is going to fight. Even if you write something positive, they turned into something negative. But I'm not mad at them, Rudy. been locked in a house. They've been lied to. That broke. The taxes are due in ten days. And unemployment runs out on July thirty first. How would you feel right now? As an American. You didn't get your stimulus check. Your president doesn't wear a mask. This guy tells you it's had one. This guy tells you that you can't get it from sucking pussy. This guy, you know what I'm saying so every day. There's new insult thrown that you're so. This is what I've done I did the same thing you did you know what? I'll need to listen to anything I will wear my mask. I will not go out anywhere. With is more than six or seven people drinking off in the circle. And I'll stay at home my family. And I'll trace my steps everywhere. I go is very simple. I'm a I'm I live in my own little prison? I might I'm like what's his name? WHAT PABLO? Pablo Francisco. Escobar. You pick your own fucking prison whole foods. The Gym the Weeds Star. And the fucking house I have a furlough two times a day. I leave for an hour. I go to the weeds store. I get along with or cryotherapy. I still have not gotten the nerve to go into the freezer yet. I could do with all the red light therapy where you lay down for twenty minutes and the light tension, but I still haven't had the balls to go into the FRIESIAN. That's how wishy washy at eight. I'll admit it. We all have fears or something you know. You just mentioned something before about. You know looking at everybody else in GIS. My reaction is. Everybody has Hesse Journey. Everybody has a destiny. And I can't keep people from doing things it's. It's part of why they're. Trip is going to be. You know. Mine is do not be affected negatively by it. To a certain degree, you know just let it go. It's like when you and I when we were in our twenties. I'm going to be seventy years old this year, so let's say looking at somebody fifty years older than me. You know it's like yeah. Do you know it's not your world anymore is US weird, the new generation the new generation. Well part of that now. I have to look at. Younger. Generation, even the twenties thirties who are in control who are creating who are doing things were influencing. And say you know whether I like it or not. It's their world. Fifty years from now they'll go through the same thing, but it's all part of our journey. You know I'm I'm closer to the journey that I am at the beginning right now by focuses is to like I mentioned to be a piece. Because, that was a gift to receive that. Peacefulness even my worst lowest of in my life, when I was about to turn thirty years old thirty now about to turn seventy and man I I gotTa. Tell you I was so off track. From that peace of mind that it took this. What has been going on for the last since you know since March or whatever? To actually. It was like hitting that wall like you're driving down the freeway and you fucking hit a wall. Go you either GonNa Crush Bird, or you're going to survive it what I did. Is I survive? I came out of that crash and I said Holy Shit. And default realisation of what I have to do is what I'm going through right now. What should they look like now rudy. You know if you get to the finer details island, get out of bed and toy. Do My my being grateful? Meditation. Gratefulness play with the little dog in bed. Save prayer and then I hit the floor running. Start making you know making breakfast a watch two three channels of news for five Manas. World, news and local news immediately going to youtube. Star searching music tutorials. Could be very variety of subjects, and then by ten o'clock. My wife gets up and just start doing things. You know, keep busy. This also looking forward to our broadcast. Radio show. Oh yeah the I do that. Yeah, yeah. I make a list. Here we got A. Flu or the at any given? Broadcast that we do because you, you can't downloaded. because. It's it's a music centric channel. and. Like if you have like delivery, a podcast is cost prohibitive to include. which what we do is conversation, and then we play a lot of music, adding to the conversation of the special guests like you, you know and. And but. Since we music, we cannot make it available as a podcast because. The publishing laws. We have to pay for that. Yeah, so you only played one time. One time well. Then, we have two or three re broacasts. Bay play now maybe a couple of months later, and then through through the year every every couple of months. Now I've been doing comedy twenty nine years. Obviously I went to see you an eighty one eighty two. That's dirty eight years ago. How are you handling with not going out at night? How you handling? Not going over hersal once a week. How you handling? Getting your lane on Thursday how you only all those things. Yeah, that's that's stuff. Because I can't recreate that at home, I mean the act of playing experiencing. You know the whole musical process, be creative or actually playing a song that it's part of the set. That is just basically recreating rather than creating. Their challenges so at home as far as playing goes I. I completely I can play more at home because when I travel I'm traveling so I can't play because I'm on a plane or A. Vehicle so I as far as play being satisfied for playing. Yes, performing that's something completely different because that's when you need people in the audience. I did a A live stream about a month ago with Steel Panther. and. Yeah that was awesome and it was very control in a studio that was set up for a flight streaming, but not for what we're going through right now so it it's been there. It's They got old kinks out and everything ran incredibly smooth I played a couple of songs with the guys and the there were about ten thousand people tuning in. Live. That's a May well I see. Going deep into the Valley Getting a warehouse. One of those things that can airplane hangar. An opening up the doors. And if it's five guys, you could rehearsed with masks on except the singer. Obviously yeah, and everybody's more than social distance. You could stand Dan v from me and play the PUCK and bay. I mean that's the only good thing that musicians do. At as long as there's fresh air coming in, you're not GonNa go into a studio. Shut the door and come on. They're alive. That's GonNa happen with some guys, sound and music in in a row. Those days done with the right now with eight guys in a room. But, that's you have the advantage over US I mean yeah I go back truck. And get a bunch of people to lot. Make believe you're gonNA social distance, but. My big problem is really don't want. Anybody to get it while they're doing business with me. I think that's bad business whether I'm a comic whereas a human being. I don't WanNa. Give I don't want. Somebody to say. I came on the podcast and got it. I went to want to join these shows and God it. That would bother me to no end. That would bother me. No fucking end. So for that reason is why I'm not foaming. You know I'd rather take the time off white you. I've been doing this for a long time. Do I. Miss it Fuck Yeah Miss. What do I WANNA go out one time and then not go out for another month. No I don't. WanNa go I WANNA. Go I WANNA be able to go tomorrow night. And that joke, working betray, Thursday night, and that joke work. Let me try to Friday night. I don't WanNa just do it and then them shut us down for another month. That's why I'm at. Once I go for this going to be my last run. I'm going to be sixty two years. This is my last run. So I'd rather stay off now. Let them get everything done. The temperature checks at the Mama in the. Ask them when you were kid really stuck at the and yes, they'll do that. No more right remember. When I was a kid in Cuba, yeah, every day, there was a lot of stuff. Because it was the fifties, and this was going on everywhere. Including Cuba the United States in on whatever? But you know if I will catch a cold. My parents. My Mom will give me an enema right. That was like part of the cure get. Out of Your Body Aka. Gonty. Your mom, maybe something that you'd shit blood for fucking today. And you will find. I don't know what it was fall, not milk of Magnesia Elyssa magnetic. I stumbled. Gala Prune juice. That's what you're shitting all over the wall said you don't give a fuck Jack if they look on the eyelids and the blood ain't right on the eyelids. You got problems. They make the steak with eggs right on the spot. They throw away your fucking chicken, nuggets and fruit. They destroyed away. My Momma eight all shed. Sometimes I see. My wife cooks a my daughter. And I sit down on. My wife is lucky. My mom ain't here. Because, she would take that dish and break it over a fucking head. Why is my kid have grapes on a? Dish like Julius Caesar. You Know Cubans. Don't play that Shit. They WANNA. See Potatoes Vegetable. Fuck the grapes in the Fuckin- the. Dad told I got on put nachos on fuck conditional. Chips like those doritos. That's not fucking dinner. Yeah, but she likes I. Don't give a fuck what she likes. I, like you know jumping planes? You don't send me fucking doing you know. The fuck is. Wrong with people. have. You been to the Cuban restaurant. It's one of the terminals at Atlanta Airport. No I have not. There's a Cuban restaurant. Yeah, it's very Georgia style, so it's so. It's like even is supposed to be a Cuban restaurant one of those. I think it's F- or J.. Really way off, you know. You gotTA. You gotta spend a half an hour on that. One! How old long get back to the city, you know. I'M GONNA walk through airport for five grade Cuban food. On this. Style is they joy Georgia Uber. I'm away, not Dalil allow. Wish. When you go to like reiter over. At. The Miami International Airport Oh my God. You can't mess with them, you see. Here's the thing. You can't get a good flight from lax to Miami. In just to even recently, you gotTa. Fly Into Fort Lauderdale. Yeah they got weird flight so yeah. Jet Blue flights into West Palm Beach. You could take and then drive the our into Miami. Fort Lauderdale flies into. Yeah, so that sucks, but I. I can't tell you how many times I woke up on like a motherfucker. and Miami you go to the airport and it's great. It really shows you the class. that. You look at the you. Look at the Cuban coffee place and there's a line out the ASS. You're looking at starbucks and this one guy work. He yells his own orders. Let me gotta Mac and cheese, and then he runs over, makes it because you got to be an asshole in Miami to pay for fifty for coffee when you got Cubans giving you a fucking, they give you that Cellophane Cup. Because you on shot flight fifty cents, we flipped. It limited six Yada. Tola. And you pour some sugar in that motherfucker. You get on a plane like fucking Who's the Guy Michael Jackson like Peter Pan. That's what you look like. When you get on a planet, you're spending around and shit. People looking to hear you singing your whistling. And then you take the human sandwiches. We don't have them cook them. You say let me get ten cume sandwiches. Don't Cook. And they'll look at you weird. You know like Mind Your Business. With the Cuban sandwiches in the bag. You're holding them up. They can't understand it I get. Sandwiches I put them right over me. And then you get home then you put them in the oven. You Cook Them Up. That's all they're gonNA do. But if they cook them by the time you bring them home like a fucking brick. So when I go to Miami on the way I, I am excited as A. Flight Leaves at seven. At the flight leaves. They gotta be a seven I. Get that sex. Because I get there and I have a seven course meal for breakfast. I will get up six and purposely smoke two joints when I leave Miami. Because I know what the what thank me, no eggs, those powdered eggs with those fucking cat sausages, and so they always give you the wrong bread. Nine? And I go in there, and do you know that they serve heavy duty Shit in the morning? Like most places, when only serve breakfast eleven, not Cuban people. You can go in there eight and say. Let me, get number. Twenty five got nickel Bipasha with Red Beans Fried Bananas, and there's a guy back beds dying to make those. He was just thinking about them themselves. He wasn't the move exit. I will get on a fucking. I will sit there and get the Karnik Papa. With an extra order, a plot to nose and rice and beans me extra rice and will kill that whole dish. That's the only one to fly to Miami. Because then I won't even take my mask off on the plane. You get so fucking filled the Miami, and then you've got the fifteen Cubans hanging over here and there's little Alvin and the plane. You tell that you give. A five dollar bill and tell that bitch. The heat it up yourself with Cubans analysts. Everybody else's eating that Shit. They eat on a plane that Moshe. They give you fuck that I love that Miami International. You just don't throw out of their enough, yeah! Yeah usually what I do, is I go from day? To Miami I take a red eye direct from lax to Miami and then I go see my mom. That's one. Yeah, so I'm there like you know like? Three or four four or five days, and then I schedule it so from Miami. I fly to the next guests who gig because most gigs are on the east coast so I have to go to Atlanta. To meet to get to like. Boise let's say you know whatever you know like. Not The major hubs because I is fly Miami to Chicago by. That's not where I'm going so I have to go through land to get to my final destination. And that's when you hit the fucking Cuban joint. Yes, that's where I sit there and yeah. Bob That's my favorite. It's got everything it's got the CARBS. It's got protein. One shot meal a little frying, so you get the cholesterol level up. Good. My fuck say for for food is Newark. Newark! Scott Crab cake place. That's like nationally known. And at six in the morning you're going to grab case to eggs sunny side up while with toast in little potatoes. Let me tell you something we. Say! Listen to me. The first time I went in there. I only one because that was trying to stick to my weight watcher points. I got no reason why nobody at home. I was stabbed myself on the neck when I was standing on that plane for not getting ten more of those things. That's how good they are. Phillips Look Up Phillips. fucking crabcakes. It's like internationally known. That like run DMC on the microphone I get stupid I not outraged. Stay away from me if contagious whatever the? Frozen one. Mellon. Phenomenal at that airport. You get to crabcakes. And two egg sunny side up with toes, hold the Bacon. I don't even need the baker. Why are we talking? What might what is my name fucking fill? A funk. What else really how you're dealing with the note. I mean 'cause. Let me tell you what happens when you tour for people who don't know this at home. My wife and I very much in Love I. Love My wife very much, but. Let me, tell you so. Guess who likes me going on the road the most. My Wife. Because in twenty nine years in twenty years, we've been together. She's been used to me leaving twice a month. So those are two nights. She could sit on the couch and scratch your ass and smell fingers and watch. The walking dead, no English shows and nobody gives a fuck. You know what I'm saying because I'M NOT GONNA I'm not gonNA. Sit there and watch. Those fucking shows she watches. So that's what I'm saying like, it's like last night. I went up. We just did a late night podcast you know. And this morning she told me. When I woke up the next day. She was like that was Kinda Nice last. And I didn't take it personal because I know they're both used to it. They've been used to it, so this doesn't even affect US only enough. Ex Wives. The people around this? How's your wife taking? It must be happy that your home. Yes, she's happy We make a joke you know before things are the way they are now. It's like if I will be for like three weeks and you know. Make jokes about okay. You know she'll say something. That's okay. That's all right. Don't worry I'm leaving in a couple days ago. But having said that you don't. We just celebrated our thirty six wedding anniversary couple of weeks ago. And we've been together since eighty one. and. I know we're in really really good place in her marriage. All around. and. I'm glad that he went in data direction because he could have gone. The opposite to ration- rain could be filed for divorce. But there's certain things that. You know you either. Do one thing or you embrace that thing and it is to embrace our relationship and. Also our relationship with ourselves. We're just going back to being peace with yourself. You know because I could. Be a peace with anything outside of me without being a peace with myself. Remain. Low Sense. Yeah H, C, Guy you know being a peace with with my family, my wife or my brother and my mom. It's. Got To be a peace with myself, and then say okay now I can if I did anything wrong. Okay I'm at peace with that. You know if I did I. Say if I say something wrong to my mom, the other day or whatever you know and is like okay. I did so apologize, and you be a peace with yourself. Apologize For yourself and apologize to your mom, just an example and that. So. Going back to the forty years ago. You know having that. Feeling that sense of peace, it was like an epiphany. It was like a A. A revelation to me, you know it just hit me and I became that person from that point on and I'm talking about being on the floor destitute couple of days later. I get the phone call from Ozzy from Sharon Ozzy the next day that trigger. The rest of my life, the jury just was a change. You know and. I've been accumulating a lot of Shit. Stuff material stuff you know. I made a lot of money. So you do certain things you buy a lot of stuff and. You know I got a house. Full of Shit you know full of stuff and. I remember during the eighties. It was kind of like okay. Go on a big tour. You you buy you buy a new house and Daddy. Go back onto. You can pay for that house. It was late. It was nuts, so it seems like the focus became without me, realizing it that was. That was not focusing on peace anymore. I was focusing on happiness. The. Pursuit of happiness and I gotTa tell you. It's never ending because if you're not a peace with yourself, you're never gonNA. Really be completely happy, and there's always gonna be something else that you want and something else that you're going to sacrifice. Whether it's you know. It's so weird that I I've said this on the podcast day. One Lille, testify this that. This'll be the first time. People really looked inside themselves. Since maybe high school. Your life has been in such a rush. Since the summer before college. You. You've got this that and you bought it. You bought it. You counselors you. You shouldn't be that. You should be director switch majors, and then you get out, and then you gotta find the job. Then you got a job and as an apartment and it never ended, and you meet a girl and you get married and one day you actually. It's like that. David Byrne Song, you know. How did I get here? That's right you know, and that's what happened to me. During this breakdown. Now there was like. How to fuck that I get here. So I started breaking into ten year periods. Like how much has happened? The last ten years. A family, a wife, a kid touring writing dealing with people. And in the ten years before that it was surviving. Getting off the drugs, you know it was always a struggle. So now. I'm a piece of myself you know. The last two weeks. The Knights of started to bother me. Like I except for a while yeah yeah yeah. But now the last two weeks nights assigned to bother me. I dread the night because I'm not going anywhere. It's bad enough I didn't go nowhere. All dead took a ride I went to the gym. I worked for a bike ride. I took the baby that kickboxing know. I drove camp. But then the nighttime comes and I got nothing to do. Do you write comedy Utah Jokes to your fucking mirror. You know so. My wife goes to bed at nine fifteen. You know my wife is up six. She does pay or cleans the house. Cooks, the baby we help out. She can only take so much. You know so. It's how sitting in night all alone. And sometimes you sit, you make notes you right. I'm trying to outline a book you know. But the focus isn't even there. To right. The focus is named outline its piece by piece I gotta put it away. I can't even go there right now, you know. So everything else has been a piece of me all that stuff. It's just a comedy. I, don't care about the money part of it either. Just the ability that I could go out and tell jokes. What do I need two hundred people now? I just need a people. Just to get what I'm saying and get the fuck out of that, so that's. The? Only piece of have everything else I'm at peace with. I know what I WANNA. Do I know I have a plan. For the next eighteen months have a plan I know what I WANNA do. I know how I WANNA do it. And that's it. You know, you just mentioned something that. I'm listening I'm listening on thinking. Wow about the differences and similarities of what you and I do. Both, entertainers right but. There is even though. You're you're like a tennis-player? By that I mean is you need that other person behind the net to bounce the ball right back. Let's do zoom show to the cows. Come home. He would give me no satisfaction to stand there like I'm waiting for an Arab a controller fucking screen I know if I turned on my screen. I saw some guy with a microphone. I do everything in my power. Shoot the missiles off, I know apple's. Decoded and Shit. They got missiles. That are blow you right up I. Don't WanNa see that. I don't WanNa. See that I wouldn't mind saying. WHITESNAKE At the Wilshire Theater with twenty five. Ticket winners. Spread out five feats eight feet apart with paper view. I would pay for that. Because I, know they're getting some type energy. When they're you know it's interesting. You say I'm telling you right now. That's going to happen right now. Very interesting because it does the amount does the size of the crowd affect your performance? No. No I could do I I'm from the comedy store. When I first started out, we'll get twelve. o'clock spots foul on Paul Mooney. That means that once he got up. Twenty people left for him. And I was faced. They people and there was a horrible feeling. But then you learn how to. What's the word? Adapt adapt. YOU START YOU I! Remember saying that somebody what the fuck is this? What am I doing my life? I'm waiting yet to one in the morning to go on stage or eight people. He goes, don't. Cancel, but the sign up outside. See How many people sign up that same spotting at one in the morning. So I started adapting to people I knew that it wasn't about material materials not gonNa Work Vinay people. Your little setup punchline and ain't GonNa work you gotTA. You gotta open up with that a little bit, but then you have to go into you. 'cause, it tape people. So. It's a different type of stand up. It's a people. It's eight people, so you got to attack them back off and then be more you. Your jokes aren't GonNa work at one in the morning. You know why because they've already heard all those topics. So. Those people are energy. Yes, slave, you look at Chuck D's thread. Chuck delay the tremendous thing on people. Somebody said to him. Why don't you? And the prophets of rage do something. And he replied. Take a look at this. This is La. This was one of the. Hardest audiences I performed in front of looking at it on Youtube. On Youtube? WanNa strain. This was just look like a regular night to you for us would while the biggest nights of our lives and a dozen come through. That's why I don't want to stream live contra right now. But I think if we really wanted then detain people with all the bands that live in La. We could contact live nation. and. Say Look go on W. Any whatever the fucking station is. raffled off twenty five tick. Nobody's making money. There is money. There's money on the paper. So you could pay the Cedar, off. And still the musicians get a little bit of money. Not Much covid means pay cut in Latin. Go to your Latin covert means pay cut in Latin. Gut! But I'd rather take a pay cut and do something three times a week. That I love. The, not. Make any money and sit at home missing what I love. But the club's won't do that because there's no money in it for them. It doesn't pay for them to put a people that's they made their money for for from alcohol. They make their money from alcohol. So this is the problem we're running into. You. Know we all know that covid fuck and moves quickly. I feel my world anything over eight to ten people. You got a problem. If, they're in a close proximity. And extended longevity. You could bump into Kovic. And walk away from it, and whatever it's when you gonNA train and it circulating the Eh and you're going from Long Island and. And you're breathing that Ed. fucking our. You know a plane right the Miami that five hours. Some mother fuckers got cold in your breathing that plane. That's what gives you. The vet is the. Longevity in that situation talking about offices now. How is it going to work with an N.? Ninety five mask on? An Office for eight hours. Cutting the work day and cutting the weekday making three day weekends. I don't work for you. We still work seven days a week, bachelor. He talking about like now. What do you got went? Let's say covert is over this time we'll see. We're talking July whatever next year. Is it. Is it even reasonable to ask you guys to travel anymore is reasonable to athletes. Do you think this is going to turn into a different way of of having live events? Do you think somebody's GonNa Change or we're just waiting for. Go Away and then go back to the way. Well. Could you really when you go out and be on a plane every weekend again? Like even when this is over, or do you think? Oh, now you realize you don't have to. Yeah we're just be weakened I mean. What we do is that market. It's more of the classic rock. It's not the the the bands from the eighties. Band that I came on in the sixties. Were there with the platters and the. And the ventures and all those bands raided. Banned because who had the first hit in nineteen, sixty five. You know so it's it's. Is that audience? You know that the comes to see us. You know a lot of casinos. We've got a couple of ships. You know which I don't see. I booked for for next year to be on a couple of ships again. And I don't know. It all depends. If vaccine available into very near future. Only here in the news about that. I hear rumblings of like they're testing going. Testing now do you WanNa be one of the first people I guess that vaccine. Even one of the first people that go back to the Jim. Avid so I can't really say you know. I mean he wants. The FDA approves it. Unless, there's some malicious intent. To like. Let's say let's speed up the process for whatever reason. No it has to go through through the to the proper channels. You know enough testing. Okay and gets approved through the next level in next level Ben you know when we're at the level? That is humid. It's humanly safe. Yeah I'll take. I'm being optimistic. I'm going for the next day. I think by next spring. Will be okay. I think same format. Everything is going to change at all. No. There's going to be changes. There's definitely be changes and by that time everybody if they're not opening up Broadway till January. By the way rest in peace, Nick Cordeiro. That was a shame that poor kid. He lost his fucking leg. Awful cold. Will you know an actor on Broadway but? They close in Broadway till January. So that means they opened up January I may GonNa Start Rehearsing. Look what's going on with the Sport Leagues Already? Dr Ready. Brahms knows bubbles no training facilities. It's too many people put together. I think once you put twenty people in there. You really got a problem. They? WanNa, play for x eleven guys on each side. That's twenty two guys on a field at one time plus three or four zebras. You. Know that's that's a lot of contact for downs. Baseball's Lou bit more spread out. But you still got people in the DUGOUT. Baseball might work. You know. I'm hoping it all works. I want the country to go back to work. But I don't want another one hundred thousand people dying. You know mainly with joke and the day. And it's a joke, but it's very sad that. After this somebody's GonNa do the facetime chronicles? The do a whole movie about people dying on facetime. So the gang signals that die and like you know how many people died on facebook in front of their children this shit? I'm loved ones, can we? We can't do this. So. That's what I'm looking at. FIRST OFF I don't trust the promoters. All their locations either. They have to switch it up, I'm sorry you gotTa lose some money. I'm talking siren. You gotTa have one person to deal with us right when you go to a casino. How many people come in to talk to you while you're in the back? Oh yeah ten people. The chief is causing. The Horse Traina, the entertainment director yes, the way you. You know all that needs to get cut down to one. Every club has to have a covert agent. So the soon as you walk in the Green Room, they take you up temperature. They take their own temperature special security to walk up to the state. There's no more headshots. There's no more. Greet, meet and greets. If you sal in Merch, I don't know what you're GONNA do. You'RE GONNA have to have somebody out there on the Murphy with and masks on. And you know there's just so many things I mean. Let's be honest, I'm excited them to see my brother Rudy play. I'm fucking site, yes. And Dope. I got some fucking edibles. Rudy got me special tickets third row orchestra I go I. Sit down the opening. ACT COMES ON BABA and his five fuck. In fact, brothers, they do a harmonica. They do four songs. They get off gower waiting for Rudy, and whoever the flop that is the gun, the and whitesnake reunion whatever it is, and all of a sudden a guy that's built like me. Fat Flop Goes. How much am I gonNA enjoy rudy show after that. And every twenty minutes without smoking reefer, the guy goes. In between song the Guy Calls. How long is it gonNA, take before I. Look at the Guy and go. And turn around and leave. How long is it? GonNa take you. You know right now. We're experiencing our remember growing up in the eighties. The worst thing you could cash I'm talking about the early eighties and seventies was like gonorrhea. Clap right. By the end of the decade it was aids. The club didn't kill you. Unless you know, let's say if you never treated. It can go to your brain and kill you of course, but eight will definitely kill you especially back in eighty eight eighty nine right. Now. We're going through the same thing you know. People used to say oh. Yeah, it's the flu. Well Yeah people did die from the flu, but this thing it's. A whole different level. Completely different level. More remember when you got gonorrhea. That Yoga commodity deck on. Certain had a weird smell to it, but you didn't give a fuck. Off! Put on on the ways and put on panty line is fuck it. When you went to the doctor you got to the doctor when? I leaving Germany, Mike. I never honoree you. What saved me I went to a friend of mine quote to clap. Same thing. They had to go to a clinic and he asked me to go with them. And when we went, there was a guy sitting there with like a fucking. A mine, just ga on his mouth. He must've suck. Somebody's Dick had her body. And he had like a thing all around his mouth in right there, I learned. I'M GONNA. Keep my answer myself saying. Some bad onions out that. Can't be and everybody's fucking monkey you. But. I tell you what one of the greatest things about you know. Being on tour with Ozzy is that he liked to mentor mentor you. You Mentor, Randy for a while and then I guess when I joined the band, it was like the the new, the guy who never been done anything, so let me mentor Rudy here, and what are the very first worse of wisdom was? If if you want to be a rock star, you gotTA catch every disease. That's out there I totally. You know. I. Literally followers advice. Fought advice at all. It looks like you're. You're the. Yearly your Rockstar, but you're I. I don't know how you lived in La. Your head, the healthiest guy you have a a long marriage. You're in your seventies and your Mama still alive. I. You're the Best Kharlamov. Anyone ever met you're you're like an? Angel on Earth. I'm blessed and blessed but but I got to tell you. The reason why I'm still here in La is because just a couple of things first. My wife was born and raised here, so it's very hard for her to leave and when I arrive here in the seventies. Reborn. It was like I. Have a connection with the city and it's not. The way that the city structures there's the the. Does a frequency. On on the in the city that really resonated with me. You know I've been to certain places in the world, and there's frequencies like if you go to Red Square. Red Square in Moscow. Right you that big Red Square where they did all the invite in front of the what is astounding, Grad or whatever? And the Saint Peter's Basilica. There's Square and that's why they had. They had all of the What is it may day May Day parades with the tanks and artillery, and there's an energy, necessarily a good energy, but definitely very strong energy center right there, l. a. to especially low Kenyan going right into the city. You know to Hollywood this incredible energy that it. It doesn't make my body vibrate. Any other place, but here this is why I remain here. I wonder if it's you guys know anything I'm talking. You know for me. I've always said. I feel that way about the comedy store. that. There's like a light that goes rights Evan. To the comedy store when you walk in there, but the rainbow has the same feeling their rainbow. Yes, certain places that you belong there, you know. I think it's the ghost. The good goes the energy on you. Yes, that goes there. You know it's so weird that. I would move here from here tomorrow if I could. You know I. Don't have anywhere to go I. Don't know where to go. We have ideas. Would Miss It. I think that would missile on. You know I would have to go somewhere where? Again the energy. Yeah I. Want More Community. I live in the valley because I like to communally style, but it's really not a community. Is just a bunch of houses. Put Together, yeah! I want to know the neighbor on the corner. I wanted a neighbor on the other Corner WanNa know his name I want an saying. This I know the neighbor next to me. Everybody else fucking you know and I knocked on doors. Introduce myself giving away free masks. It's not a community. It's not really a community and that's what. These all this. Come to me that I WANNA go back to a community. You know I was watching. Do the right thing the other night. With UH SPIKE WAY and all those guys. Spike Lee plays a pizza delivery guy in Brooklyn. That does is deliveries on foot. So what does that tell you that? The people that off a pizza from that? Are from that community there from to bow. How far is delivery to three blocks? The most. Eat when you watch that movie you see with a sense of a community is we have a liquor store? We have this. We don't have that here. There's no loyalty here in businesses. It's Kinda Weird. You know when this all went down. The first thing I said was. I'm going to support local businesses. I know a list on a businessman. Lose a business. But I found that the businesses weren't doing it right. You know if I walk into your restaurant and the doors closed I walking in that. You gotta get some ventilation in that mother fuck. You got six guys sweating over food with mask gone. So you, try you try? To go back to what you were saying. Yeah, I don't. They did a survey again about ten days ago was still at. Sixty forty. Of people feeling comfortable to go to outdoor events like stadiums baseball games concerts. was still at sixty, forty. And even if that goes ten percentage way you still fifty, fifty or seventy thirty, which is still not good for our field. For we do. People. Would they do this survey and fifty people? Out of a hundred said they would go. They wouldn't go to a game or concert right now. So the state of mind is even fucked up plus on top of that. You're meant to hear what the top thing is Rudy It's not the covet. It's not the state of mind. It's the social consciousness. People in bad positions right now. People aren't loving them. All the love has been removed from their heart and I'm not mad at him. Love was removed from my heart when I was a young man. They've taken away your livelihood. They've taken away some of your freedoms to check. You supposed to get the twelve hundred. You never got in the mail. Guess. What did you read? The New York Times article in the paper Sunday. What's going on in New York with the evictions. They're not fucking around. All that Shit. They told you about waving evictions. You don't have to pay the rent. Go to New York and ask them what's going on in new. York, they don't be homeless. And nobody's GonNa. Stick with them. This is all bullshit. This is all bullshit I told you that lease at. That number of skype catty whatever his name is Mascot Kenny was Angelinos you know Your rents will be waived. Ask Sleep the first day of April. They put a note on his door with the fucking shelters in the area. His landlord put a fuck a note on his daughter. Rent this do. If not these alochol shelters in the area. I thought FUCK ANY PUT A. Memorandum. That if he didn't have to pay rent I know twenty people. That told me that's bullshit. I know people had lived move I lay apartments and move into their places of business. Because they had to make a choice. So right now. People having a hard time like I, said taxes are doing ten. And unemployment wears out in twenty six days. Wait to we see how many people got shot over the weekend. From the fourth of July two last night at seven New York forty fucking people got shot. So, be very careful, rudy, if somebody cut you off. Kalemie love them. Don't take offence. I'm not driving so. Really drive. Just in hard unless I go to Home Depot. Suck and Home Depot I. Don't know what is. My buddy door. He's at Home Depot eight times. A day only knocks on. My door wants a day Joe. You wouldn't have to have one of these screws. What makes you take I even got a fucking screwing my. Johnny's screwdriver. I, love you. What's the station Lincoln? They hear Ya. Mazda so rock radio on the DASH network. It's unfair times, but definitely for sure two PM. On Fridays. And this next week. on Friday I have Rick Nielsen from cheap trick. Great, Great Conversation Yeah Oh. Yeah, it's got their own. Series station. Oh. Yeah, they do. It was on last night I heard them. Do something from why Buddha Khan. Yeah Yeah Yeah He. Yeah, he was saying it. And then it would be a played again on Sunday at four PM, but that's like the anchor date and time Sundays, at four PM Pacific daylight, time or DP whatever. Talk Him. I love you hopefully I'll see you soon for some pop. Up On us. To Take Care Yourself Give your wife a kiss Gary Gray Week. Thank you, God bless bye-bye. Bad motherfuckers I WANNA. Thank Rudi Phenomenon Man. He's a good dude. Seventy years old. But rocking for a long time, get more props in the world. Another guy in spies, the Fuck Outta me when I talked to him because he's always. He's always doing something every time I call house. What's going on I'm planting a fucking tree. Let's. Stay in house. Planting trees always fucking. Those all time has not released. Good fucking man. Listen again. Like I was telling you the beginning of this show. The most important thing though it is, quarantine is just try to take care of yourself a little bit. Just do something less. AD less salty food you know. Walk an extra block. Do something I mean. I fuck in I'm losing my mind if it wasn't for the podcast. And may communicate with you guys on facebook and on twitter. I'd be done right now. I swear to God nights for me. A fucking harder than ever. The first three months was like nothing. Lately. It's been. And listen. People. Like won't go to San Diego and do a spot. Both clubs are open is the problem. You ever do a line of coke and the guy leaves. You ever go somewhere. Guy Shows up. It gives you a great line of coke, and then leaves, and you're like what happened to him, and you're out in like the fucking desert. Nobody's got coke now. You're sitting there. And you come down hard off a fucking line. That would have killed the meal. That's what will happen to me if I do comedy right now. I don't WanNa. Do Comedy, do it. And it to be over with La Hoya that doing great I think they had it. Got Down to sixty people and the American. Comedy Club is hundred people live with that. That's like forty percent capacity. That's plenty of social. Distancing and I'm not gonNA, do a long show because this stuff you get covert sitting inside long periods of time. Inside with no ventilation, wait those comedy clubs fucking. I N Celtics. fucking Erin those things saying that luck fucking Aaron those things so. That's the only way I'm doing it I. Mean there's a lot of things going on my. To Brandon and Brian I've checked with both of them. Brian is feeling a little. It's fluish conditions. You know that both strong guys. I know they're both. Make Alice. Is just a bump in the road? We just gotTA. Be careful. Guys we as the charge. Listen we're all savages. I you know me I opposed fucking Communist. Communism with my fucking heart I hate all that type of shit, but at this time right now. We just to do a couple of things and keep it simple. And those things solace and you see people eights the magic number. Get the fuck out of that. Eights bad them right now tomorrow. That today's the eighth. Bad number eight to ten people. That's how it starts. You know that's how it starts indoors, you know. Don't listen to me. I don't give a fuck what you do. I'm just trying to tell you that I can't buy you guys. And that's just a couple of things like washing your hands. Take to showers. You know what I'm saying I. Rather you be overcautious than you know we don't know what would dealing with. Do. You think I. Believe this is a virus won't. Nobody gets the flu in the some. So, do I believe humbly nothing all I always that you got avoid people. You gotTA fucking Wash Hands. You gotTa wear a mask. You know and. You know what man you see a Lotta people I know you. Have a losing our minds. You want me to lie to you and tell you that this four to July was the best author July Adam my wife. Is that what you really want me to die? You know it's deck. It Suck Dick. Because we didn't have the freedom to go to the beach like we usually do. We didn't have I didn't complain. I'd enforce it. I didn't push the hand I understand have a family. What my wife contracts! And something happens to her. You think unqualified, fucking razor seven-year-old by myself. You fucking retarded guys. Are You fucking dotted I? Mean I can do a couple of things. Okay, but I can't raise no seven-year-old by myself. I wouldn't want my wife. To be stuck in the burden nothing. Nobody's going to die. But! We're not young. People know mock you guys at young. You guys have the opportunity. To set an example, man put the fucking mascot. WHO gives a fuck? Fuck in Moscow that says suck my deck. I don't give a fuck. I wouldn't be mad. I'm insulted to your heart. Is the walk two blocks for the Mascot? You don't lose to ride a bike past twenty minutes with a mask on you start getting dizzy and snatch. Commodity knows me Shit. I gotTA. Throw those mask away. Every time I go for a bike ride on my bike rides. But I'm just GONNA say. You guys have heard me get bronchitis over the years. If you think breathing masks, hard tribe, reading with bronchitis and I've heard this is way worse. Trust me. You'll, you'll be begging from. Ask if you got that, so that's just what I heard. Yeah so please take care of yourselves. Drink water. Vitamin D is Big demand. You know, be a good frontier south like. The Guy told Tony Soprano those. Those words of resonated with me for a long time. Be a good frontier salvage it's. It's so real you know. Listen guys this shit. I WanNa do all the fucking time. You don't have military cactus number three. No no I have not broken. You'd look at me, dwd like. Mrs! A, Bane A. bean-and-cheese Burrito with fucking Guacamole in there and some fucking south on top. That's my world, guys. That's my fucking cheat day. That's my Sunday when I fucking got forty four points leftover I. Go to fucking. And get during the week I get the Vegan Salad I haven't been. Because? You scared me. Everybody was like. You know we talked by. That is only three people, but it's just something about it, they they'd trapped in now. I like it when it's open. You know I, don't so I'm like you guys. I'm not scared of anything, but I do respect. This things you gotta respect for whether you want to earn that. Respect this, if not for yourself. For people fucking Joey Okay for people like me that we'd be smoking Dope Twenty seven years you mother fuckers come along now and fucking get weeded a we'd slow. I was I was smoking. We go into the jungle to together fucking bag a dope, saying when you had to go deep deep deep into the fuck murky waters at the end the world. Now we're getting. It's like it's like being gay now and they no big deal. I wish you were seeing gays in the seventies that walk around with capes backpack. Know because Kazam. That's because the guys hung out with Martin the flag. They took the beaten, so these gay guys could jump up and down today have parades, and you see CMO on fire island, jumping up and down now that a party of five ninety gay guy jumping up and down there was just instant, fucking Mitch. You know I don't wish nothing bad. I know, but it'd be. You can't put ninety guys together that if you think came on. The Wall is dangerous. Do you see what comes out of fucking fire, island and shit by the end of this. I love you, motherfucker. Listen the most important thing about this time is. If you don't have a sense of humor about yourself. If you're not going to laugh about yourself, kill yourself. Because? It's not gonNA. Work out for you. Trust them I'm Tanya. You gotta find the humor in things right now I'm talking about is you're getting the victim? And you put in your fucking lawn chair in the fucking station wagon. You got to look at the Land Longo. We did a good run. You know what I'm saying. The, bathroom, look at the piece of Shit I left the net cock suck. I painted the walls, but go see the dead stick. I left the Internet. If you don't have a sense of humor by yourself, you're not gonNA, make it through these trying times learn to laugh at yourself I laugh at myself off. One last story, okay, my daughter goes on this program. Called late. I don't know what the. Really teaches you how to speak. Spanish the thing about this I don't think so guys. You don't understand so by two or three years ago I go on the road show with your Romero. Guys I got blasted by Spanish people. Blast I mean just tormented about my Spanish. that. My smashes horrific. Spanish. We don't number one I speak cuban-spanish. Okay when I was in high school foot one week, I took Spanish. And I was like I'm not doing this. This is to confuse either. GonNa be easy. I'm Spanish I. Don't get this. I'm not doing it so I switched to. Italian had Mr Palmesano. He had one is than the other one Larry's. Bad Skin we used to torment them. He used to say Jordan us in your province. And we tom go fuck yourself teacher. WHO said that he was kinda crazy was thanks to every day? Anyway. So my daughter comes be, my wife says you know mercy's learning Spanish on her own. She wants to surprise you. So I, go no shit, so when night she's like that look complained lingo. Fuck! The name of the game is. and. You want to help me and I go. Yeah, so she's up to like level eighteen on her own. She's climbed up all these fucking barriers on their own because they. Give them like points, elections, or whatever the fuck you know what I'm saying. So she's got up to a level sixteen. Or level eighteen. I don't fucking know so. She sits next to me. I tend to TV off. She has my three or four questions anyway. To, be honest with you. She asked me three questions. And I went over three. And she went down the light level of. She got up. She was so pissed at me. She's like. How can you be Spanish and get three questions wrong bad? That doesn't make sense that now level eleven. She just marched up fucking room furious. Some her mother asks the yesterday. You have a problem with go I should just like. What are you fucking? Last time, why is that of Spanish questions? He I went Oh, and three I'm never going to ask him about. Spanish Dad doesn't talk about type of Spanish so. That's my funke poodle week I made my daughter go down like four levels in Spanish. The between Coamo or something else I. Don't Fuck it now. I know a couple of words. I know how to get by the. Saved my ass I know how to make you laugh at Oughta. Make me laugh at Spanish, and that's the only thing that matters over the next couple days listen. I know what trying time taxes done. Unemployment's done two or three weeks. You. Don't have you don't need to have a sense of humor. Please keep your sense. Because at the end of the day. That's all you have. It's more than money. What good is having money? If you don't fucking laugh, you don't want I laugh at myself every day. I'm fucking retard. And I enjoyed it my sense of humor tremendous because I laugh at myself, so please take it easy. Don't shoot nobody. Don't get shot because it's should season out there. Forty four people got shot. Seventy in Chicago. What are they giving fucking guns on Chicago? What are they doing in these cities? I Love Chicago I taped my special in your city I did the theater I love that fucking city all my art. What are you doing? You. Guys took cops and robbers to a different level. You just shooting on each other now. But anyway all no jokes. Say Prayer for the country. And say a prayer for the Church family, and also from my man Sergio Tag. Going to a hard time like I said if you not his friend facebook. Friend. Sending mashes from Church love. And that's sitting. 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HR 3: Keep Or Sell?

Mason & Ireland

1:14:21 hr | 3 months ago

HR 3: Keep Or Sell?

"I'd say the big story of the day of the last couple of days is the scandal with the Washington football team there are multiple instances as many as fifteen women have come forward one on the record, describing a hostile and toxic work environment. It, is, they've already fired. A couple of people in association with this in advance of the story that drop yesterday in The Washington Post Daniel Snyder released a sort of a statement today. Ron Rivera head coach of the Washington. Football team is expected or has been expected by Dan Snyder to sort of get out front and address this stuff, but Dan Snyder has been very quiet about it well. This just came out as he sent a letter him and his wife. WHOSE NAME IS TANYA? Yup sent a letter to the team. To everybody that works for the team. I won't read the whole thing, but I'll just read your parts of it. It's his team. We are saddened disappointed as you all are after reading the story in The Washington Post yesterday on behalf of the organization. We want to apologize to each of you and to everyone affected by this situation. To create the culture. We all want we need your help. We need you to be part of the process as we go forward will need to hear from our leadership team, or you will hear from our leadership team in the near future about this action plan in closing. We want to thank you for everything you do. The off season has been trying and difficult. We're committed to ensuring this organization is one the promises, a high standard of personal conduct while also representing the values of inclusiveness, respect diversity, sincerely, Dan and Tonya well. Here's the problem with that letter. He says he spells it right out there. As we go forward, you will hear more from our leadership team in the near future. About this action plan or leadership team sucks yeah, your leadership team is the one that got you into this mess and they did it in twenty thousand eighteen. And you let a lot of these guys hang around so I I think he's gotTa get a high profile very competent, unquestionable, empower female executive, running this thing or or else it's it's just all going to get back to where it was two years ago two years from now. It sounds like it was kind of like. A nineteen fifties office, I mean verbal abuse and demeaning comments. There was a staircase that was used to look up skirts. There were quest to wear low cut blouses, suggestions to flirt with wealthy sponsors, outrageous texts exchanges, some of which have been printed. No oversight, no HR department entire thing appeared to be an open secret at least among the women. They routinely worn newcomers about what to expect in heaven. Help the interns during training. Camp As Emily applegate told The Washington Post it was. Not, an intern she was paid employees paid employees. Yes, she says most miserable experience of my life. So I think that. A Culture John and you don't. You've a mixed relationship with the term culture? The culture of the Washington football team is led by Daniel Snyder. The culture is created from the top. That's why I don't understand why. There's no ability for Daniel Snyder in all this stuff that was going on which was apparently an open secret. I think it's two fold. You understand what a bad culture is. This was a bad culture right, but it's twofold I think because Daniel Snyder is not accused of directly. Perpetrating the behavior. Granted he's the one who hired a lot of these people, but he didn't do it that. That's what's going to give him. The political cover to survive this. If the NFL owners were going to move him out. They probably. One of them would to sit something by now. Don't you think? No I. Don't think nobody wants to go out on a limb I think the NFL will probably make statements through the commissioner. Imagine that individual owners are gonNA. Come out and hang themselves out publicly. On an island with this stuff. I just think immune. If you really want to get to the bottom of it. Get Daniel Snyder to release those women from their nondisclosure digs at the heart of this whole discussion. That's the one that's where he lost me last night. Like I've always said I hate canceled culture. I hate when we call for people's heads I I think people. Everybody makes mistakes, and you should be allowed to make mistakes and apologize the thing I. can't get past with Daniel, Snyder. Is that this and I saw this last night on Sports Center? They had one of the writers of the Washington Post Article Come on, and he said twice. that. They asked Daniel Snyder to release these women from their nondisclosure agreements so they could talk openly about their. And Snyder, said No. which to me means you have no interest in changing the culture righteous want to keep from getting in trouble. That mark. Cuban treated it completely differently and I don't mean to praise Mark Cuban. Because he died. To be with what he did was he said I'm not qualified to run this part of the company. Just because I'm the owner doesn't mean you know I obviously don't know what I'm doing. This building I'm only focused on the court. I need somebody who gets it. To take over for me in this area and he went out and hired Cynthia Marshall I. Just don't see Dan. Snyder doing that. I don't think there's a Cynthia Marshall common to run the Redskins. Snyder strikes me as the type A guy who is going to. Maybe never give an interview on this. Maybe never faced the music. Mark Cuban sat down with Rachel Nichols and let Rachel. WHO, by the way used to work? The Washington Post sure. Grill him about anything. And often his answer was. I didn't pay enough attention to what was going on in that part of the business. And I'm very sorry for that and I'm very guilty of that transgression. Snyder seems to be airing towards well. When I find out about something I, fix it. But the evidence indicates otherwise. Their stories going back to from two, thousand, six, two, thousand and nineteen in that Washington Post piece. It's just over and over and over again by the way I would encourage all of you. There's a woman who's quoted in that piece who writes for the athletic name Rhiannon Walker. and. She has written it and you could tell after you read it. How hard it was for her to write it. She has written a first person account. Her twitter handle is at instant. Are Hi play at instant rh? I play. She covers that team for the athletic in DC and she talks about how hard she's twenty seven. She talks about how hard it was for her to speak up about this and why she did it and tells you exactly how it went down. And when you read it, it's even more compelling than the Post. Article of of how miserable these guys at the redskins treated women. Right? This really bad yeah. so we got that going on. We also have to you of that Promo of Mike Tyson. And the shark somebody's GonNa get bit. Okay hit this. Mike Tyson. DISMANTLING PLANET He's back. Alternate showdown. Shark Week it hard man. Who sure these made event Tyson versus Josh. Sunday night on. Discovery GonNA get bit. Someone's going to get fit. So, we get some details now on exactly what this is going to look like really Mike Tyson will go one on one with a great white shark. On Tyson versus jaws rumble on the reef. In August. With famed ring announcer Michael Buffer calling the shots. These two heavyweights will square off underwater where Tyson will try to score. A tko over a massive shark claims the discovery channel announcement before adding all in the name of research details of exactly how the baddest man on the planet will face off against the fierce emotion. Predator are being kept under wraps, but we're anticipating Tyson being lowered into the water in a cage possibly in gloves and And ring shorts. Who doesn't WanNa see that well. Wait a minute if he's in a cage. How does he hit the shark I've no idea good. Just go with this I. have no idea how they're doing it, but the idea of Mike Tyson being lowered in a shark cage, wearing shorts and gloves is wildly entertaining to me. Maybe if you just made holes in the cage that were barely big enough to get the glove out. You could lead to. Punch a shark not. Punch the shark. Face it may already said. that. The if you ever get attacked by a shark, what you should do is punch him in the face. Right May. That is exactly what you do. You Punch a shark in the nose. Public, service ANNOUN-, exactly one hundred percent. Punch the shark in the nose. If you Google that you'll see, that's the right way to take down a shark if you're being attacked. All right I'm watching it. John Coming up next. We've got our Karen of the day I was wondering when we were going to do that. Karen of the day is coming up next Mason Ireland seventeen ESPN. Seventeen ESPN hey. It's Friday tomorrow. L. Traffic O., L., AFC versus the galaxy. That game is at seven thirty. You can hear it here on seven ten ESPN Dave Denholm on the call. If you want to watch it on television, it is an ESPN game tomorrow night. Then, the dodgers open their official exhibition season on Sunday against the Arizona diamondbacks. They play Arizona Sunday Monday Tuesday. They play the angels in an exhibition game then three day they open up against the San. Francisco giants Johnny Cueto on the mound for the giants vs Clayton Kershaw Opening, day starter, and then thirteen to thirteen days away from Lakers clippers in the bubble in. NBA Tomase. We've been talking a lot about. D Shambo the Golf House. so He's been making headlines lately because he can hit the ball more than four hundred yards. Yes, all right so today he was playing the Nicklaus tournament the memorial in Muirfield Ohio where you and Lindsey the hail from. Jack Nicklaus designed course, so he gets to a par five. And he hit his tee shot into. A creek left to the fairway. Now, instead of poking the ball out back into play in the rough, he was still three hundred yards from the whole. He attempted to hit a three wood. That shot flew out about then he had a provisional ball just in case he wasn't able to find the previous shot that shot went out of bounds. He finally had success. Keeping the ball INBOUNDS A. Crack at it, but it settled into the rough, still forty yards from the whole. Dish within about radio hit. His eighth shot found his third shot up against a metal boundary. Fence. He tried to plead his case rules official. That ball was still in play. The official said that falls out of play, clearly frustrated at the ruling to Shambo. Pick that ball up. Then hit his eight shot onto the green two-putted to card a ten. Now that is the worst score. He's ever had at a PGA tour of how that ten dropped him from one over. Two six. He finished with a Birdie on his final hole, but the damage had already been done. He missed the cut. And he's done for the weekend. Wow, now. Tiger made the call for right now. Tiger made the cut on the number. He had to play very early tomorrow morning. If you know what I mean and I read somewhere, he has won that tournament five times. Yeah, that's his tournament. He's very good EPA today. He really struggled. All Right, so we've been doing this on a pretty regular basis. Describe! What can you do it? The Best Lindsey describe what a Carris. A Karen is a middle aged woman, usually white, but as we found out yesterday, not always young, who's extremely entitled and thinks everything should go her way and freaked out when it doesn't. Ladies and gentlemen. Does this. NEED ANY SETUP, NOPE! Okay. It's our Karen of the day, just not going to believe this. You are not going to believe what's going on. This is tyranny. What are you guys doing? For people to walk in one direction. Okay this! This isn't sanity. You know this. This is crazy I who who's? Town Manager for swamp Scott. Betty supports trial Baker. So, people! Now what happens if I don't walk in what if I do this and I will? Because this is what I'm gonNA. Do what do I. What happens if I do this? What do they do to me? This is I know you guys doing your job, but this is insanity. This is tyranny. That's what this is this communism? Come on this is communism. No, it isn't I double in nursing. What kind of health is this? You're going to get an A. you're going to get. You'RE GONNA. Get a Kovic from walking down the street. This is insane. Look at this to people who are together walking with a mask and they're fine. Thank God. This woman has some sanity. No mask on her and they're fine with with what's going on here? Spray Painting Arrows on the sidewalk in swamp Scott, which means. That if if you walking in the wrong direction if you want I I'm telling you that's what's going to happen. Take a look. Go to the swamp Scott go to the swamp stock website and find out what happens. If you don't walk, it's not decide these guys faults. They're doing their job. But what look at this look, this is swamp. Scott, this is where the governor of Massachusetts lives. This swamp Scott all right first of all. Make sure, are you still in the middle of watching the Sopranos I am Yes. Tell me that does not sound like Carmelo. Soprano Eighty Falco she did. She did she sounds like Karm? Absolutely right? The different. The KARENS, have she. She was in Boston or at least in Massachusetts. Apparently she was in swamp Scott. Wherever the hell that is. But yeah, we're starting to get like a backlog of Karen of the days. We have so many parents so many so many. We're are we GONNA akin. Yeah, we need to have a can. Well will have a Ken Kennedy. Has Prominent, but I'll keep an eye out I'll keep an eye out. Heard that cans are also Chad's as well. Okay see I thought Chads were more like a little of around our age like the younger not so much middle aged because I. don't know a lot of people in their. S Forty fifties named Chad so I thought that Chad's were like. Similar to Brenda's which Brenda would be like the. So, there's a Brenda. Chad. Karen a Chad. We. Are you one of those? Yeah, we got a sweet email I text. I don't know if I can find it from a guy. Did you see it Mesa Guy last night? After the show that basically a texted us, he yeah, he tweeted us. And he he basically his point was that. I'M GONNA. Find, but he said that it's unfair. That the name Karen has been co-opted. Because his wife is named Karen No, and she's actually like super sweet, and she's a healthcare worker, so she's a Karen, but she's not a Karen. So all Cairns are not bad, but. It sucks to have that name right now. Heater waddams. Guys I totally get Karen of the day, but my girlfriend. It's his girlfriend is a treatment nurse in a skilled nursing facility. She is is frontline as it gets and this sweet Filipina woman raising a six year. Old Daughter is named Karen. She's your weekly hero, so shout out to Peter's Girlfriend Karen. WHO's the opposite of the care? We've been played yeah. Advice for her. Change, your name. Right. Okay so Forbes magazine. Has released its list of America's best sports cities. Who Do you think is number one now? What constitutes it? Is it like like how good the teams are good. The fans are what what what does. How do you define sports? City! They are defining the nation of both right. It's it's the it's the combination of teams success fan following. Excitement. Passion! It's all based on all those things. Also TV ratings in social media follow TV ratings and social media. Thank you okay so if they would have done this poll. Like back in. Two thousand two. It easily would have been la, but I think a modern day. The team, the city whose teams are good at everything. Is Boston Yep. the Celtics are good. The Patriots are good the red. SOX are good. So I think it would be I can't say that about the lay can't say that about Chicago can't say Dallas can't say Miami. I gotTA think Boston's one or two. Boston is number one. Yeah, they've had great. Overall Team Success I think they've won a championship in all four major sports in this century. I want to say a couple things about Boston. So. I. was at the Super Bowl. The Rams lost the Patriots. And it's scarred me for life. because the Patriots fans who were there. Were so f ing obnoxious, just absolutely obnoxious. And the other reason I don't like Boston is that they closed out their world series win in two thousand eighteen. At Dodger Stadium. So terrible feeling to watch. Okay, boss, celebrate your stadium. The other city that I'm pretty sure has won a championship. In all four major sports, even though it's not one city to region. Is Northern California. With them want it, but the niners went to the Super Bowl. As year. The warriors have been dominant. The sharks won a title. The giants won three world series in in. This decade. So they've got to be top five San Francisco. Oakland San Jose. It's got to be number three San Francisco Bay area's number three. Number three. Who would be better than them? Well I guess I. Guess You could. Chicago La has the essay has got to be Chicago Range Chicago La of two of every sport. Except la like the king stink. The ducks stink the RAMS missile playoffs last year. Think also about passion. It's not even necessarily. It's also just passion, then then it's got be. CHICAGO'S GOT TO BE Chicago's number four yeah. Okay still missing number two all right, but are you saying think? Think Passion New York. I think even bigger than New York if it's good, passionate and bad passion. I've never seen fans live in. I mean fans literally will. Never quiet. Cheering or booing on every play Yup you're on the right track is Philadelphia Philadelphia's number two. Yeah, so it goes Boston one philly to. San Francisco Bay area three Chicago Four. Where do you think La finished? I. Don't think that L. A. Because we come to the games with our niece, and we arrive early and leave late I. Think we'd be lucky to make the top ten. That's. Incredibly unfair. We are number ten. Yeah, no, it's not. It's unfair why? Because because there's this idea out there in the middle, the Lakers and dodgers are good. Who Else is good? The Rams are good. Brand new super bowl two years ago misplace last year. They were nine at seven. It's not like they sucked. L. AFC that they have to NFL teams and they can't sell out either one of them. That's not entirely true. Ram sold out of their personal seat licenses. No I. Just you know what I hate I hate the people back east to say yeah I mean they just go to the beach? And they go surfing and they go no I mean. There are real life passionate sports fan. You go to the right field pavilion, dodger. Stadium, and you're going to get hard core finance. Arrives late and leaves early as much as La. I think that's just cultural. La It's cultural I think. minute. That's a cop out what's? Thirty Championships in La. We'll do other than the dodgers. In the Lakers nobody wins anything USC football, but USC football had a tremendous run L.. AFC. L., AFC upset new record for most points in the MLS last year but USC football. Nobody even shows up anymore well now. Yeah, at at the moment have all have won championships. The poll is twenty twenty right. Yeah, if it was twenty two thousand. We are number one. That's even though we as you say. Arrive late and leave early, but in in two thousand. Everybody was good. Dodgers were good angels good. The Rams weren't here yet, right? No, not here yet. USC was going to that. We had no NFL. Yeah but USC was like an NFL team. Yes they were. Just, it's all timing like buses that going to be on top forever. Can I give my opinion as a transplant from the outside. Yeah, I think dodgers fans to me as somebody WHO's gone to a lot of spring training in both Arizona and Florida are probably the most passionate sports fans. Baseball fans that is that I've ever met Lakers are right up there too and Lakers fans are passionate that it sometimes puts them on the brink of being delusion delusional. And if you take those two teams in single them out, then I think it's probably top three, but I think the the NFL the the flux between what's going on with the NFL teams moving and everything. I think that that has severely hindered the overall perspective while ended outside plus brand new five billion dollar, most expensive ever built stadium that was kneecapped by the pandemic. Can't help that I mean. Everybody's been kneecapped by the pandemic. Right, but I'm just saying that doesn't help la that hurts them. I mean they invested a ton of money and that was it. Yeah I. Think La's underrated sports, city and Lindsey. You're absolutely right. Dodger fans, Laker fans hardcore. There are hardcore Lakers and dodgers fans. In La. Coming up next for you is the thing that John. Has Been Waiting all day long and you've been teasing me on text about this. have got this thing. I want to bring it up. How about five thirty and I'm like oh? Absolutely whatever you got, bring it. Bring it big. Bring it loud. Bring it strong, yeah! That's coming up next Mason Ireland seven ten ESPN. By the way baseball starting next Thursday the official the. League, which is the Fantasy Baseball League that I've played in for thirty one years. We will hold our draft next Sunday night for a sixty game season I'm really excited to get some fantasy baseball action going on. It's NFL only and I'm going to throw fifty bucks at Cody bellinger. Fifty Bucks I'm going to bet right now. Did I get uninvited from that? No, do you WANNA? Be In it? You asked me to be in it back in. Okay here in said yes, you're in. Didn't re ask me so I assumed that very high demand Lee right. Yeah, no, you're in. You're in week from week from Sunday. A week from Sunday at doing doesn't have to be this Sunday. They we'll. We'll be a couple of games into the season a couple of games, but it's got it's got to be. There are a lot of high-powered executives in this group, and it has to be a week from Sunday. So lends you're in. Ireland, this big gigantic thing been waiting all week. For this I can't believe you made me wait until five thirty on Friday Yup because this story is right up your alley. Do you know what a Chris Oh Pelaya Para DC is. Chris O. Pelaya Paradisea Yeah. It's a flower that grows from a bulb. Lindsey you WANNA take a shot. Find. Say That again. Kreis Oh, Palea, paradisea, some kind of disease or something. All good guesses, none of you are right I. Swear I'm not making this up. According to a paper published this week at Virginia Tech. In South and Southeast Asia. And Mason this is GonNa Freak you out Ono every day. It's bad news with you yesterday. Earth is not bad news. This is spectacular, but it's GONNA freak out. Flying snakes no flying. He flying snake. Awesome I it is spectacular and people thought they didn't exist. And these researchers found him, and they fly through the air, and CNN's been talking about it all week all week long. This has been the story I can't believe you have not heard about flying snakes now think about how people freak out when snakes slither. Can, you imagine? Flying in you like you're you consider yourself to be a world traveller? But here. Are, you ready! You gotTa Google Window I. Do Okay So. If you just Google Paradise treats. Nick will come out, but it C. H. R. Y. S.. O., P., l., e. a. and then paradisea just sound like it sounds it's. This isn't one of those things where what when it was so cold in Florida. The lizard were falling out of the trees, and they were flying lizards. Their little was known about how much these snakes fly before a team of scientists from Virginia Tech published this paper on Monday. Experts say these snakes glide through the air. They make an undulating motion as they move through the air and they can just Zappia right in the neck. This is brutal. Eileen six Google it. I'm looking at video of it that is, it is absolutely terrifying. How terrified no, with all the countries? You've visited that you could be attacked by a flying snake. Can you imagine a snake flying you? Yes, it's spectacular. It is not spectacular flying stakes. Come on, man. Scare the hell out of video. If you get attacked, play a flying snake. Wow Yeah. I'm looking video. They fly. That's crazy snakes. Would've thought it was making that up if you didn't Google it, this is the this is the year flying snakes. It's the year Hornets the murder Hornet. It's the year of swarms of locusts. Right Oakland sticks the year from Hell. Let's be honest. Earthquake's coming on the San Andreas Fault Yeah. We're GONNA. Get Mace! You're going to be sitting in your. Fancy Venice Pad, getting stoned and all of a sudden a flying snake is gonNA come flying through the window than an earth. Her hit yours absolutely. Get a crack in half your. Dogs and cats living together into the world kind of stuff flying snakes, twenty twenty blows really does on man you got. Flying Sakes, I been you know I just turned fifty seven took me that long to discover flying snakes. Yeah, I WANNA. See One mostly in Indonesia. It's S. So, you've been Indonesia Avenue I've never been to Indonesian, no well, you'll get there eventually you guy will. It's it's on my list. It's on my list. Oh God advantages of only going on vacation in the domestic united. States like me and only staying at five star resort. You steer clear nine Sneh attacked by a flying. I may get attacked by flying four iron if somebody gets mad and throws their crew but it. FLYING SNAKES! Snakes. That's so creepy. That is so creepy. Yup, there goes flying flying through the air. They sorta like wiggle in the air. And then catch onto another tree. Shocked. That you you you needed. Meet introduce you to flying snakes. and. Yeah, normally I'm the one that can find. Find stuff right this level as you are. But I saw that I thought this is right up Mason's alley, and that's why I've been demanding all week to put it in the show, and you barely got it in five barely got it in day flies always like one last thing that we've been saving up for the we now. Aren't you glad flying boy I? Am I am relieved that we got that in. Today's my game at your game my game. Okay, so I've got a chance to catch Linzie and the score is Lindsay for Mason, three Ireland three brand kaminsky is fill in one. Day Bud stay now. We're going to have an announcement soon, but we're running out of days. Yes, we are okay, so it's not that anybody's going anywhere. Except that funches going to have to start waking up earlier and he's going to be ineligible to play games fudge. You gotTA strike man. You gotta get out of the slump your thirty day winning streak. You gotTA swing at every pitch man. Are you ready? Ready? All Right? Okay game of Games is coming up next. Mason Ireland seventeen ESPN. Game of Games time. And I got the game. Somewhere, here. Not Again, Did. I lose the game again. Did I lose game sounds like? I've been I've been screaming at him. To email just went away. Elf It. You're just a moron. It all right, so do you want me to do a game and you can do? Monday and Tuesday. Do you have one yeah? Okay I think okay I'm convinced John has like thirty game four. Game I work one game ahead specifically, because Mason literally lose. He would lose his pants if he if he wasn't in quarantine. How do you lose like an entire found found it. Just shut down all right here we go. So. This game is called. Something anything everything. Okay. Seven questions can be about anything Raymond's. Your buzzer. Come on funchess. Fund we're all rooting for you. Thanks thinks. Of the support. One as the expression goes. If something hardly ever happen happens. It happens once in a what what? John Actually Know Lindsey. I think got it. I, think I got it to blue, Moon once in a blue moon. Blue Moon Yeah. Once in a blue moon. Lindsey, takes one. Oh lead. It was very close, but I think it was Lindsay. They got that. Number two. Pete rose is the all time MLB leader in hits? Ty, COBB is second. Who is third? John John. honus Wagner No. Linsey Lindsay. Said Pete rose, tied Cobb Hank Aaron. Hank Aaron is correct. Takes to nothing lead. Yes, wow! She there I'm here, okay. In Guardians of the galaxy. What character repeatedly says I am much much. I got to go to. Group group grew. Yeah, the character that repeatedly says I am group is grew why I know why I've never even seen that movie. The only character I know from that movie is so. I was GONNA guess that anyway? Those are funny movies. Those are great. Movies are dead yet. Lindsey to punch one Jonathan. who leads the Lakers this year in steal per game Lindsey. Alex Carrizo no French. French Avery Bradley No. Giles per game John Lebron No. Anthony Davis Oh. Wow, Anthony Davis. Steel and a half Game Lebron Danny Green, one point two steals per game. All right, so it's Lindsey to one Jonathan. Who is the reigning? Super Bowl champion time John. they beat the. Chiefs can't say chiefs this correct now. Wow, it's Lindsey to fund one John One. How many are left? I've got. Two, left and then sky breaker! Get them both all right. We've talked about this on the show, so I think it's fair. According to Marvel. How many Infinity Stones Trendy. I think John got their first. There are oh my gosh, it's either five or six I'm GonNa go six six is absolutely correct John Ireland Watch a marvel movie at all. He knows how many infinity stones there are senior. Just no Zion's necklace Yup all right and the last, so it's John Lindsay to one I've got. Last year, who led the dodgers in batting average China, John Cody bellinger, cody bellinger's correct and John Takes in. Coming from behind, Wow was dramatic. Would you have had the right answer Linzie? Funds we had the right answer. Not at all. Not at all, not at all. Good Gusto, but probably not balanced damn. You've got to win some of these. Games on the way out. Gets going into the weekend going into the weekend. Ireland, four. Lindsay four Mason three. Brian Cabinet ski is. Fill in one. And Five. Nil. Win Is, punch common hopefully, Monday. and Monday as much day occurs. What we're actually going to put that in the Promo. Please do. Let's put that in the Promo. Today is day. That's perfect. Nobody will know what the hell we're talking about. That's okay. all right. We've sleep coming up, do you do we have let's stop on one more thing here? We did this is. Let's circle back to the NFL story that we actually started the entire show with. Right now there is so much confusion in the National Football League. Exactly what is supposed to happen and how? It's supposed to happen so Monday. Rookies are expected to report to camp for the Kansas City chiefs and the Houston Texans and the NFL has done. Little or nothing to come up with an actual protocol for how to handle stuff. They are planning to test players three times a week compared to in major league. Baseball in the NBA where players are getting tested on a daily basis in the NFL, Players Union is upset about this and may instruct players not to go to camp. I think they're gonNA work it out. I've been seeing tweets over the last hour that they're going to continue talking through the weekend and my guess is, there's just there's too much at stake. There's too much money and take too many guys that WANNA play I think they're going to get. This worked out by Monday, and like you pointed out earlier in the show. They have an unlimited pool of money. To do whatever it needs to be. You know to be done they. If they went increase testing, they can increase testing. If they want to privatize some of these hotels they could do that they their cash cow that no other league can compete with two head coaches told Yahoo. They have been handcuffed the past few days on what to instruct their players and staff from setting schedules, giving coaches an idea of when to return to their summer. That has led to a cycle of confusion inertia, all taking place while cove nineteen spikes in some states leaving the head coach is concerned about asking players to fly, so it doesn't sound like training. Camps are going to happen on time. No I. My prediction is August a no games at all like the preseason games that are scheduled are going away. September is training camp and I think they're going to start first weekend in October. I think you're going to have that weekend off of the thirteenth. that. You were hoping to get into the new Sophie Stadium to go. Boo! The Astros at Dodger Stadium. So you think that I will get into dodger stadium by September. I'm hopeful hopeful. I don't think a lot. I don't think it'll be packed, but I think there will be some fans. Because as of right now. I have it on good authority that I will not be at any of the Games. For the time being, why do you think? Because I was told that. But do you? When you say you will not be. Do you mean no fans will be or just? They're mad at you. Know Nobody's mad at me. Just radio guys are going to be at the game. None of what if you buy tickets well? No I'm talking about right now. I'm talking about next Thursday. Oh, yeah, you're not going. Yeah, radio guys. I'm. Talking about September. September so September twenty. What does that date September twenty third? September. Thirteenth is when the twelfth and thirteenth, or when the astor's come to dodger stadium. What a gigantic man! I'm telling you God help I would love to be part of the twenty percent capacity at both of those games. I don't think they'll let more than twenty percent capacity, and do you let me ask you this? You walk downstairs. To starbucks to pick something up yet September. And there's Alex Bregman in line. Right in front you. Do you do anything to acknowledge him. He's six feet in front of you because there's still practicing social distancing. Cheater cheater cheater at that's what you would say. That's very well thought out in in Europe. cheater. We build a chant, you what I would do what I'd walk over to. The trash can yep I'd pick it up and sir beaten on man. That's good. I like that that's my. Last word saying cheater cheater cheater. Yeah I would get I would get the last word. And how would he even respond by the way you know what's weird about? This city would on my short trip to Hawaii that lasted two days during the pandemic. there was an astros fan at the game. I mean at the at the pool. And he was wearing an astros hat, and I was wearing a dodger sat, and I stared him down. I could feel the shame coming off. I'm sure you put the fear of God into him. I. He knew he knew that I knew that they cheated. He knew I knew everything. Everybody knows what they did. Yeah I. If there were fans in stadiums, it would have been very long year for them would have been. There helped more by no fans in stadiums than any other team. They might be, they might be. All right, so we got sleep coming up. We're not playing family feud again. That was awful yesterday he he just wet the bed on that. Let The van. Is He did all right come? Next for you, Hey, what you doing. Alan Sleep will will be here for Cross, talk, Mason and Ireland seven ten espn. Isn't gentlemen. The five words that light up Los Angeles every week night. Hey, how you doing guys Allen. Sleet joins us. What what's up, everybody just goes crazy when they hear those five when they hear the. Azam behind it that people pick up on. How long are you willing to drive for a day trip on Sunday? Max. Drive, looking for something safe and cool to do on Sunday. Probably drive hour and a half. Okay underrated Yep I think it's underrated. Big Bear's underrate two hours away from L. A. I. Think that's a great day trip. Big Bear Never been there really. Never been a big bear. Where you go? It's kind of a hall to get to just going up. Yeah, you're going up like six thousand elevation. I'd go Santa Barbara. Santa Barbara. I'd go Santa Barbara or Go TIRRENIA, but I don't think tyranny is going to be far enough away for you. Tear what am I going to do there? That's golf course, isn't it? No tears as a resort. You could walk the trails down in the ocean. It's it's it. Look it up. Tyranny tackler Santa Barbara's fight. You're to have all those restaurants that are out Patios. Those will be open. Now Google but. Yeah Yeah I mean there are no restaurants open now right while the restaurants are closed except for takeout well if they have outdoor. If they have outdoor seating attorney, there's a place called Nelson's reconsider out and look at the ocean. We can still sit out. Yeah, it's named after Lloyd bridges used to be in the show called sea hunt, sure and his name was Mike. Nelson, and that's where they used to film. Sea Hunt. Poster Palos Verdes, so there's place there called Nelson's. Yeah I just I. I'm trying to get out of the House on a good run one day a week and I. my ritual is I get up in the morning and I walked for about. Usually about three miles a do a three mile. Walk. Then I come home I do some yoga. Then, after. Yoga I get ready for the show. But. There's a drive to starbucks in their one drive to starbucks. It's like my one time getting him not car and driving somewhere once a day. GIVE ME MY PASSION T. With five equals, and I'm happy, but at least me out of the house. You have five equals. Want says that that's. Really bad for Ya es right. One is correct. But I go everywhere. I normally go I just wear. I just wear. I wear a mask. Everywhere I go. Shopping I. I went to the door twice today. Yeah, we used to cart. It just shows up at the door. It's perfect. I don't find I. Don't find the need to go like like I would love to find a restaurant where I feel safe. You know the more I hear about this thing. I'm like I'm like I. Don't I don't WanNa get it. I don't have it. Smells like no fun like Freddy, Freeman who got from the braves, not going to be ready for the regular season. Slid. Kinda changes here, but did you see mantras herald left the bubble. Personal reasons family reasons hope everything baby needs okay with him, but looking at it from a basketball angle. The Clippers win the West Without Him I heard I heard. You guys chat slow that earlier. That's that's a major major piece for the clippers him. Him Probably Lou Williams Those are arguably the two best six men The NBA. They announced today that they're going to base the awards. All the awards on what happened up until March Eleventh Herald Sixth Man of the year I do, too. So, I think he is a good player, but I think they could do. They could win the with Adam simply because he's not Paul Georgia coli like with the Lakers every time something happens with the Lakers I say to myself as long as it's not Lebron or Anthony Davis. The Lakers still have a great shot I would feel the same way, but the clippers of wasn't PG or Colli John. That's there. I think the one if you say okay. What's the one strength CLIPPERS OVER LAKERS? It's after their top two players. That's. That's their depth and everything that comes with it, and probably by the way mantras harrow one of the things. I was so great watching that game on that Sunday John Right before we stop playing basketball, we got a chance to see Markeith Morris. Kind of match up against mantras Cheryl not to say that that's apples to apples, but that specific player gives gave a Laker so much flexibility. Where does Nafta got them all the time? But that'd be a that'd be major major piece. Do you guys like the idea of? Shams tweet a little bit earlier that they will not be or they're basically. They're not gonNA. Add these last eight games into their individual stats for the right low season. That makes sense I think. Everybody's is going to be a little ragged. I personally don't think we're GONNA see great basketball in the seating game by the way tuned up. It's not that they're not gonNA. Count the stats. They're gonNA. Count the stats that are just not gonNA. Figure into the awards. Yeah, like wool, matter, friend, VPN rookie of the year and all that stuff correct which I I agree with who then rookie of the year we'll be John John Rant. You guys and I I don't agree with it, but you think it's Jaanus ran. Vp Jonah's for MVP. I would vote for Lebron, but yeah. I would also I think Lebron's have an unbelievable season, but I think the the world has decided Jaanus. So does it. Does it wrap it up for Anthony Davis for defensive player of the year. Jaanus is going to get some votes. Yeah, definitely going to get some votes. I would vote for debate I'm biased I. See him play every game. But Janas has been excellent defensively. He'll get some votes for that. I think really bear is probably because of what happened with the coronavirus is probably. Not Top of mind for any type of award. So. Yeah I think Anthony probably as sidetracked to that I. think he gets it. I I kinda just because if the season's ending right now. I think the conversation was that. was. Amazing but do be defensive player. You, guys said on six Mantica benched by. The way is definitely going to be there. Anthony Davis or Jaanus I think. Almost improved, you think. Ingram has a chance for that I. Think I think Ingram's GonNa chance I think. The probably in Miami. Kid In my yeah Bam at a at a bio. He's got a chance I. What about Jason Tatum All good names what about to white? Well see Dwight isn't a weird category like if they were still giving comeback player of the year, right, it would raise white in a walk. I don't know. I don't know almost white yet. I don't think he would. I, don't think I think some of these other names that that kinda thrown around there. I might very well be Ingram. And six man I think his Mantra Cheryl. Could again could be Williams again and Dennis Schroder. Another you know from Oklahoma. City was another guy yeah. I think I think coach of the year is is problem. Is I? Think I, know WHO's GonNa? Get it, but who would you guys vote for? I think we'll get to I think I think nick nurse will. Rob Will Yeah Nick cicero impressive disagree and gets it. I think Taylor Jenkins the coach. The Grizzlies gets it. There is not one. preseason prediction that had the grizzlies in the playoffs. Zero. And they're going to beat out Portland and New Orleans. Intini Antonio I. Think that's the guy who gets it. I think Billy Donovan. Votes to Donovan for sure, but I think it's nick. Nurse won the title last year. He's lost Hawaiian. They're still right there right, but they're not i. and Taylor Jenkins got a team into the playoffs in a loaded western conference, and so did Billy Donovan. Nobody picked okay. SEE NOBODY PICK MEMPHIS to make the finals or the playoffs. What do you guys think for Executive Executive Rob going I think it should be rob Pelinka. I think about this. The Lakers had missed the playoffs. For five years or six years six years six years, so they missed the playoffs for six years. And then they go to number one. Because, he engineered the Anthony Davis Trade. Everybody said he was crazy to hire Frank Vogel Frank Vogel's fantastic Yup. Everybody said well. That roster is never gonNA. WORK GANGRENE SNACK GONNA fit. Hey boogie goes down signs Dwight Howard Yeah. I mean I to me I, think I I don't even know who I'd put second pushed every right button. As John Del also in the conversation, Lawrence Franks and probably Sam. Presi wouldn't say I mean just the way we're complementing Oklahoma. City complimenting Billy Donovan. Gets in there to. Accept it by pulling off the Anthony Davis. Trade and hiring Frank Vogel I think people thought this was going to be a stepping stone process that the Lakers were probably going to have to climb the ladder, and for them to be what what did they finish forty, eight and fourteen before the break? into me it's Lincoln. The one team, and maybe this is the sleeper team in the West you know what team has got the third best record in the league since Thanksgiving. Is Oklahoma City. That's right, okay? They got off to a terrible terrible start and everybody thought when they traded. When they traded pause George and Westbrook that they were basically mailing it in rebuild it, they were stocking up draft picks, and they were going to be in the tank for a couple of years, and instead they've been really good. Although the Lakers beat them in. Okay, see without Lebron and. Blow out to what what team I mean other than the clippers. Is there another team that you think has shot in the West I? Just I know people are saying. Oh this team could be a sneaker, a lot lamb, slim, slim sliver sliver of possibility for Houston. Yeah I don't think Denver can do it. I think Hugh I don't think you talk into it. No, especially that Bogdonovich Houston's team to watch YEP. And I think part of it is. We just don't know what we're going to get. We don't have what it's going to look like exactly. And they play a team like the Lakers than the Lakers need to go small. Probably play at the five. I mean it's it's an interesting matchup because down there Dan. Tony's trying something completely new. It's a complete experiment down there to play PJ top the five and that your big man moving clink cappello out I mean I just think that's a role of the dice, it either crashes and Burns or as a wild success, and I I would say. That's the one team. Outside the Lakers clippers in the West that I could see going to the finals, but I mean it's hardly highly highly unlikely, but may I like that gamble I remember when that first happened in both you were complimenting it like. Hey, if you're gonNA, if you'RE GONNA Gamble the Houston Rockets. What are you really have to lose because you'RE NOT GONNA? Win a championship the way you were just the way that you click cappella center I liked the gamble like you said it could come down crashing and nothing works, or maybe they just get lucky in the timing is right in there. Maybe to pull are able to pull something off that nobody has ever tried. So so sleep. Would you have something exciting plan for the show tonight? I do have something very very exciting to the show tonight. Okay. By the way. Not Stepdad Leo wants to point out because I was ordering while he was on the phone. I got six. In My Passion T. It's getting worse. Is Equal really bad for you? It's basically sugar. But. It's not. Sugar has no calories right, but it's. It's not good for you. But isn't it neutral? Not Bad for you and not good for you know. Nine. How can it be bad for you? There's no calories because you're taking six of them. Yeah, but there's still no calories six. Six is the same number calories as one. I think you should have twelve then. Yeah I mean what's I. Just I've not heard any research that says is GonNa, get you. Trying to see if there's some negative news on equal I don't see any. No negative news on equal I, coming up next. Come up with something I. Don't know if it's GonNa work or not, but he has come up with something here. That that we're going to do that, I. It's kind of like the Houston Rockets are going to be great, or it's going to crash and burn. So that's. On next hey guys. Mason, Ireland Crosstalk seven ten ESPN. ICROSSTALK seven to ten ESPN is powered by powerful heating and air their cross-strait power pro service specials, great cross-strait service for our listeners right now. Ninety nine dollars drain cleaning. GO TO POWER PRO PLUMBING DOT COM for fraud information I. Miss I got some great news. Oh good I'm looking for great news I. Have Some really really good news for you. K. Good. It's official Yup. Major League Baseball's Houston crowd crowder's. Did you see that? No I didn't see it me, Mason. I have bad news for you what? Equal this is from. Dr Fishing Cough. It's the old good news. Bad news equal is aspartame. People who have a condition called. Fennel Kitano Oria PK. You shouldn't use aspartame. People who are taking medications for schizophrenia should also avoid aspartame. Still the consumption of aspartame by people conscious about their sugar intake continues to soar when it comes to aspartame, your best bet as was sugar is to consume it in limited amounts. So adding six every time you have an ice tea is probably not smart well. It's not just six in the ice tea. It's also five in the morning coffee there you go, and then a together your five. My that there's nothing wrong with it because it has no calories sounds like a winner I st- I still stand by that. I. Don't I whoever said that. I need your scientific research. macy advertise Stevia this using that instead or not. Is Is there a difference between? This one from Cameron Porter equal like many replacement sugar has been linked to cancer and other serious illness. Try honey or Stevia. So. He's divvy, okay, natural sweeter! So I could have seven Stevia. Some it asper came. ASPARTAME was also in diet coke. That's what wife aided diet coke, Oh yes, she called liquid death. But. That's the bad news now. Give me the good news. The good news. Do you want to expound on it? Where'd you get? What's the source? Do you want to explain it again when you go? To like baseball you. Better the second time he does. The show during the game, so it's official. They are gonNA. Use it I know some players not crazy about it, but they're actually I guess they have seventy five different effects and reactions on MLB the show, which is the you know, obviously the played that yeah so they're using this often the San Diego studios a branch from Sony Interactive Entertainment. They're taking a page out of the to European soccer leagues. Doing the same thing, so that is no longer like. It, should they not do it? It's across the board. It sounds good. You know what that means launch. Everybody Clap your hands. RYBODY! Little on the right on cue. Know. What's this thing you found? What's at? This found during the break that you found some funny audio did did I miss here all we found another Karen. Basically one of our salesperson's people would send a another Karen was basically a we. Are we saving it for save? The day we only have one room for one Karen the Karen Gold May, but it's not just one Karen it's a bunch of Karen. Okay good. Mace A. Hug Fan in La. My son has type. One Diabetic Children's Hospital told US ASPARTAME is essentially poison. Go is Stevia or honey. That seems we'll see. Honey has calories to Stevia have calories. I don't know, but it's not poison. People are over there exaggerating the downside of equal. But honey when when it has calories, but just the fact that it's more natural. Be Better for you. I don't know I just can't afford the calories. Man I've got I've. Team twelve right now. Are you on one of those You count everything that you have like you put everything in an nap or no, not at that point but I I know how many calories I have every day and I've had too many and I am. I've gained twelve pounds during this. During this quarantine. Okay, so remember I told you member. You the hotdog challenges that I've been doing Kito. So I was seven up. probably about a month and a half ago in quarantine. Now I'm if you keep that seven if you added on probably eleven down. Your eleven down, yes! On, Kito, yes, and what? What exact? Keita's like Atkins, isn't it? It's a lot of equal you take tiny. Equal good. I'm on the right track. Kito then. So Kito it's. It's actually about counting your carbs. Okay, so they don't pay attention county your calories. It's hey mace yeah. I just googled. Side effects of ASPARTAME. You Ready. Yeah! ASPARTAME contains four calories per gram similar to sugar. What it is however two hundred times sweeter than sugar. Okay, good. Yeah, that's why like this means that only a tiny amount of aspartame necessary to sweeten food, and now see I i. like everything sweet I've got the ultimate sweet tooth yet you, but because you putting six of those in that's twelve hundred times. A gram of, sugar. Delicious. Ridiculous I love things that sweet I love. Don't wait a minute. Came, on the air today, sleep I. Don't if this not, but you know I order donuts on a regular basis. From decays donuts and Santa Monica just unsolicited plug and I always get the vanilla cream donuts. And I get a side of vanilla cream. So that, you can actually take the cream-filled donut. Dip it into. The Vanilla Cream. Double the cream. necking to like this, Oh, no, what now news reports over the last few decades have claimed that aspartame causes or increases the risk of. Headaches, dizziness seizure depression adhd Alzheimer's Multiple Sclerosis. Lupus and congenital disabilities my God. Isn't that most diseases I think they left maybe I want her to allender. That's a pretty complete list of diseases, and it's all because of equal. Because of aspartame which is an equal. So! Friend just text me and said try trivia. That Stevia. The natural sweetener, the natural sweetener, and not not the equals which will kill me. Should, you should worry less about calories or more about carbs. No screw you down eleven. Down Eleven, sleep Fu down during the pandemic to them down about six. Oh, come on, what is going on I'm the only one that's getting getting. Your. Your the. Ordering donuts on a nightly basis inside a cream delivered to your house, side a cream. Oh sorry cream! Yeah got made twelve to one of those. What are they called like donut bars or whatever donated? By you know what that's I go at night. This is this is literally debt. You picked that type of donor you want. They cut in half, and then they start putting all the toppings off Shawn. Where is this Donut Bar? You speak those one. There's one. Is it equal rock, or it's a highland park something donut bar. I got to look that up I'm sure they'd be carried. Hey, Swick! Is The donut bar the place where it's six twenty four. Oh, close donut donut bar just closed, so did us. So, Monday Charles Robinson is gonNA. Join us. We're getting ready for baseball. Dodgers the first exhibition game on Sunday night against Arizona. We talk about that Galaxy Versus L. AFC tomorrow. We'll round that up for you and latest from the bubble. Very exciting sleep well, what do you got Ben Lines Feminine Seven Eight so we'll. Chop it up with Ben. Cool All right see a Monday have a good weekend. Everybody Mason Ireland in the books for this week, seventeen ESPN by crosstalk on seven ten years fan is our by powerful heating and air there cross cross-strait power pro service specials, great cross-strait service for our listeners right now ninety nine dollar drain cleaning go to power pro plumbing dot com for fraud information. I missed. I've got some great news for you. Oh good, I'm I'm looking for great news I. Have Some really really good news for you. K. Good. It's official Yup. Major League Baseball is GONNA use. Did you see that no I didn't see it of Mason? I have bad news for you what? Equal, this is from. starfish cough. Good news bad news equal is aspartame. People who have a condition called. Fennel, Kitano Oria. PK You shouldn't use aspartame. People who are taking medications for schizophrenia shows also avoid aspartame. Still the consumption of aspartame by people conscious about their sugar intake continues to soar when it comes to aspartame, your best bet as was sugar is to consume it in limited amounts. So adding six every time you have an ice tea is probably not smart well. That's not just six in the ice tea. It's also five in the morning coffee. And then another your five in my that there's nothing wrong with it because it has no calories sounds like a winner I i. still stand by that. I don't buy whoever said that. I need to have your scientific research. Makes you ever try Stevia just using that instead or Is there a difference between. This one from Cameron Porter equal like many replacement sugars has been linked to cancer and other serious illness. Try honey or Stevia. So divvy is okay, natural sweeter. So I could have seven Stevia mitee aspartame aspartame in diet coke. That's where my wife hated died coat. Oh, yeah! She called liquid death, but That's the bad news Gimme the good news. Do you want to expound on it, or where'd you get? What's the source? Explain it again when you go. Baseball! Better the second time does. The show during the game, so it's official. They are going to use it i. know some players not crazy about it. They're actually. I guess they have seventy five different effects and reactions on MLB the show, which is the you know obviously the dinner we played that. Yeah, so they're using this awesome San, Diego Studios Lebron's from Sony Interactive Entertainment. They're taking a page ad of the to European soccer leagues. Who are doing the same thing, so that is no longer like. Should they do it? Should they not do it? It's across. The board sounds good. You know what that means panch. Everybody Clap your hands. Body. A little gone right on cue. Know. Fudge, what's this thing you found? What's at? I found during the break that you found some funny audio, did I miss here all of them. We found another Karen. Basically in one of our salesperson, a people would send a key another. Karen was basically we are we saving it for? Karen of the day. We only have one room for one. Karen the Cairns are gold may up, but it's not just one care, and it's a bunch of. Good Mace. Hog Fan in La. My son is type. One Diabetic Children's Hospital told US ASPARTAME is essentially poison. Go is Stevia or honey. That seems we'll see. Honey has calories to Stevia have calories. I don't know, but it's not poison. Over there exaggerating the downside of equal. But honey went when it has calories, but just the fact that it's more natural better for you. I don't know. I just can't afford the calories man I've got I've got. Team twelve right now, are you on one of those? You count everything that you have like you everything in nap or no, not at that point, but I know how many calories I have every day and I've had too many and I am I've gained twelve pounds during this. During this quarantine. Okay, so member. I told you a member. Ref, the hotdog John. Just I've been doing Kito Yeah. So I was seven up. Probably about a month and a half ago in quarantine now I'm if you keep that seven if you add it I'm probably eleven down. Your eleven down, yes! On Kito, yes. What exa- Keita's like Atkins, isn't it? It's a lot of equal. You take a tiny equal good I'm on the right track. Know what is Kito then? So Kito it's. It's actually about counting your carbs. Okay, so they don't pay attention to your calories. Hey, a Mace, yeah! I just googled. Side. Effects of ASPARTAME. Ready Yeah aspartame contains four calories per gram similar to sugar. What it is however two hundred times sweeter than sugar. Okay, good. Yeah, that's why I like. This means that only a tiny amount of ASPARTAME is necessary to sweeten food, and now see I. I like everything. Sweet I've got the ultimate sweet tooth yet you, but because you putting six to those in that's twelve hundred times. A gram of sugar. Delicious. Meticulous I love sweet I love. Don't wait a minute I. Came on the. Sleeve I don't if this not, but you know order donuts on a regular basis. From decays donuts in Santa Monica. Just unsolicited plug and I always get the vanilla cream donuts and I. Get a side of vanilla cream. So that you can actually take the cream filled doughnut. Dip it into the Vanilla, cream. Doubled cream. You're not going to like this. Oh, no, what now news reports over the last few decades have claimed that aspartame causes or increases the risk of. Headaches dizziness seizure depression adhd Alzheimer's Multiple Sclerosis. lupus and congenital disabilities, my God isn't that most diseases I think. They left maybe one or two Alexander. That's a pretty complete list of diseases, and it's all because of equal. Because ASPARTAME which is equal? So Friend just text me and said try trivia. That stevie up. Okay. Yeah the natural sweetener, the natural sweetener, and not not the equals which will kill me. You should worry less about calories and worry more about carbs. No screw down eleven. Down Eleven sleep. You down in during the pandemic to down about six. Oh, come on, what is going on I'm the only one that's getting getting. Your partner. In this thing, you're the. Ordering donuts on a nightly basis inside a cream delivered to your house a cream. Cream. To one of those, what are they called like donut bars or whatever don't? Try, go at night this literally that you pick the type of doughnut you want. They cut in half, and then they start putting all the toppings all. Shawn. Where is this Donut Bar? You speak one. There's one is equal rock, or it's highland park. Something donut bar. I gotTA look that up. I'm sure they can carry a hey. sleepiq is the donut bar the place where it's six twenty four close. Close Donut donut just close. So did us. So Monday Charles Robinson's GonNa join us. We're getting ready for baseball. Dodgers have their first exhibition game on Sunday night against Arizona. We can talk about that. Galaxy Versus L. AFC tomorrow we'll round that up for you and the latest from the bubble. Very exciting sleep well, what do you got Ben? Lines on seventy eight. We'll. Chop it up with Ben. Cool. All right see Monday have a good weekend. Everybody Mason Ireland in the books for this week seventeen ESPN.

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Resting Phony Face

Bob and Sheri

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Resting Phony Face

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I don't know why i said because most days you are wearing pants like a fact. I don't recall coming in here. Petless not once but you know. Sometimes you're in such a rush as you point very early have you. Have you ever had this experience where <hes> i don't know you walk into a room. You get out of your car and you walk into. Let's sites the supermarket and for some reason someone just as staring right at you. Yes you know i it's jarring. I had that happened the other day and honest to god a- and it was it was on a saturday and i was very casually dressed. I said to myself are do you pants on. Do a quick i did i did a quick. Check is is that what of those dreams that you have especially as a kid you know showing up pantelis it at school that dream coming to work here sometimes without my clothes us and realizing in the hallway <hes> like <hes> what have i done yeah and kept on and did a very good show too. You have to have to let them talk so yesterday. I told you something that was in oprah's magazine today. I want to kick off the show telling you something else. I read an oprah's magazine. That really is so interesting and has made me think a lot <hes> it was a very short article live speaking as a man. I want to get as much a ho. Please magazine. You know you're gonna find this very interesting. Woman named aaron summers wrote a piece about how back in two thousand nine she moved to los angeles with the dream of being script script writer and she had no idea how she was going to make that dream come true and she had no money and no parents bankrolling her or anything like that so she got a job at j. crew at one of the malls and just you know lived hand to mouth would have stay up until really late at night because after eleven pm ah free of a free meaning no cost parking space would open up. Just you know a classic story of being right out of school and strolling sure well. A friend of hers from college college had grown up with a movie star and i'll read you the description. She never names the actress but she said <hes>. I went to a house party hardy. I walked in and saw the actress more beautiful in real life in spiky heels and leather leggings. She was small especially her head. It impressed me with its smallness. It seemed like one could easily palm it. She was flanked by her entourage. Including another one of my college friends and around them and concentric rings stood everyone else i am entered the outermost ring and watched and she talks about how she went to a few more parties and she could never get past the most outer covering but this actress whoever she was would arrive with her friends and entourage and the minute she showed up at this party. The party will come to life and the minute she left the party would die and it was really obvious to her that everyone was acting for the benefit benefit of this move. That's interesting but here's the part. That's really gonna like make you insane because you would never tolerate this so then she writes is my friend. Anna swung invite to a club once and ended up in the same car as that actress her entourage and khloe kardashian russian but the car was to full and they asked anna to ride in the trunk. She moved back to new york soon after that. I oh i didn't see that coming at all are hitting me to share this because the thought of being i mean that tells you know my word. How could as you do that to someone that tells you what that particular reality is. <hes> the pecking order where you're not famous and you're not wealthy and you have no power you can get in the trunk. You can get in the truck. That's exactly right but you know there are celebrities. That would never suggest you get in the trunk and i'll go to the tom hanks. Thanks this not once you ride now. Got me this car paul mccartney jay leno <hes> any of the nighttime talk show reese witherspoon witherspoon is not going to ask you to get iraq meryl streep right. There's no way i say hey you with a little head. Get in the glove compartment. So of course. I spent so much time after i read this article. I'm trying to imagine like okay who was who was it and i i i mean i could come up with a million guesses but there's a lot of tiny weeny actresses yeah i mean think they're all and in fact she describes cbs that all of this actresses closest entourage they were all teeny tiny just like her and they all had the same flat ironed hair her this to everything they dress the same permanent bridesmaids d. I know what i was hoping you were going to say in the trunk and the so when in the wrong in the opposite direction. I was hoping you'd say this. <hes> performer had so much charisma and positive energy that when she walked got into the room everybody was just so delighted to be around her that there was a buzz and everybody was happier but that wasn't it. They were acting for her so that she didn't feel like she was at a drag party every that she would come back yeah yeah the trunk get in the trunk anna his the cars to full khloe kardashian. It's not going to ride in the trunk movie star knocking to ride in the trunk. You know what would have been classy if one of more famous people would. I'd say i'm going to call a number and but he wanted to go with me. I don't want to go alone sweetheart. You say in this limo yeah. You're not going anywhere. Call oh newburgh and you're a hero. That's a completely different mindset frahm hannah you get in the trunk cook or somebody telling you to to get in the trunk of their car. You know what i would say. Hey little tiny movie star which sit on bobby's lap right here. What should we go would you. I don't know i know you wouldn't wouldn't get in get in the truck. I would never get an absolute. I'd go home. I've seen too many goodfellas. It's nothing it is ever good. That happens right. It's bob and sheri yet. The more on of the day sent right to your phone moron to eight eight eight bob share to sixty seven seven four three seven so a writer nick sophie mcevoy as written an article. About how often should you change your bed sheets. It's more frequently than you think think and for good reason and what caught my eye was the average american changes their bedsheets once every two weeks. So how often does she say she wants a week once once a week for for bedsheets and it may be twice so week if you have a dog or a cat that sleeps on the sheets i you know for me. I don't care. I think we change them once a week but but what was really interesting in here was first of all that were most americans are only changing once every two weeks but the other thing is you should change your pillow case probably only three times a week. Let's say especially if you're willing to anybody that does that. I no i don't either and we don't at our house but if you're a woman that has moisturizer or a guy moisturizer on you know before you go to bed all right so that's coating the pillowcase right and you your skin is flaking a little bit and <hes> <hes> if you have skin problems like if you have a teenager with skin problems and that kid is only changing the pillowcase like once every two weeks that could it'd be adding to your teenagers skin problems so you should change it three times a week. You're looking at me. He's going to have skin problems. I'm not changing it three times a week. I had a friend in college who changed his sheets. At the end of every semester. Ya'll so gross whoa that is so oh gross so grow guira girl a guy that makes sense and when i i was like that is so disgusting although i at north haven high school i swear we would leave our gym clothes there for weeks and weeks and weeks without without taking them home that that jim changing areas we had these little <hes> cubbies that were metal you could just throw it in and you had a locks not that who's gonna steal my jockstrap right but anyway you can lock up your uniform and i swear to god we leave it there for weeks and weeks until finally the coach would come over. I wanna call a meeting. You boys are disgusting today. Everybody takes on geyser geise gross once a semester in line. That's absolutely awful so anyway. That's what they say at least once a week and more with a pillow case. I do i do that just 'cause. I'm so you know. I'm such mother daughter in that way but i i you know my kids are that's on them. They do their own laundry including their own house and i have to go go to their rooms periodically and tell them horror stories about what they're sleeping with in order to get them to strict dust mites and things they don't care about us might care about us much care about dust mites because they can't see them. They don't believe they exist. I have to get more like you know. The grimm's rim's fairy tale love is on right dust mites. Now you show me the teenage girl in the history of the world. That's worked up about dust mites. I don't think it exists you know. Mary and i have a deal. Whoever gets out of bed last has to make the bed but in this article it says leave your bed unmade as a matter of fact pull the sheets and the cover away from the other sheets. Let's american pull my sheets blankets back. I missed my bed with lavender linen spray because it keeps me calm does really because obviously nothing does but i tell myself it dies then and then you do that so anyway heads up coming up <hes> nail fungus. It's it's a real problem. Doing actual yeti can't understand any at dell semi annual sale getting seventeen percent of the latest dell alienware computers with intel core processors more eight hundred by dell or go to dell dot com slash semi annual sale. Here's five in sports. Fans gyms okay with sports ranging ever closer to the people's raid on area fifty one and they're sports news connected tha that welcome jim. Mike leach is the head football coach at washington state. He's been around for a while. He was at texas tech and he's one of these eccentric funny guys so elites to press conferences that get off topic sometimes like storming area fifty one <hes> and so he was asked about it because they know they can buy way. He believes big bigfoot. Israel rio is one of those passed a conversation. He just wants to recruit him. That's all luca blame them. I mean who could blog molly who could block bigfoot right <hes> so here he is sharing sharing his thoughts on area fifty one and what he thinks actually goes on there the test things there. I think you know stuff up to the military. Government's developing i would imagine they tested their <hes> if they have <hes> you know oh found <hes> spacemen or any ross wall stuff that probably be a pretty good player that probably be where they would store of such you know there is such thing i think it's pretty much a test site where the test and develop everything aircraft bombs to some type of type technology because it's gotta gotta be a place to do that. I suspected didn't cryptically colony area fifty one and they didn't have <hes> no one allowed allowed <hes> quality than it has probably wouldn't be quite as exciting incidents of course heathrow aliens on top of that you know the curiosity goes while you can listen to him talk. All you know <hes> everything everything he said. Even i agreed with breath except when he used the word spaceman if he comes a little bit kook. I like to be rosewall reference to roswell yes. He also says not a good the idea to storm area fifty one as he goes on this went on for about five minutes there. I don't think that'd be a good idea because they might just test out the stuff. They're testing on you to ensure sure you don't get in there. He's been talking about football answering football questions for so many years. He just wants to break down. What's talk about space now. I think that's that's what it is but i like how he talks about this in that same tone and cadence that he talks about football yeah. There's always on your washing while you're one of those documentaries. Batteries are something like he was an expert on. This guy knows what he's talking about. Well you know what now that he's come out. He is an expert. He'll become one of the ancient astronaut theorist on ancient alien who believed that could possibly be true so clemson's football coach. Tell us about dabo sweeney. One of the great names college football national sham establishing nickname dabo is a nickname. He was a little boy somebody in the family. That's something about that boy which became daboh so the southern zab okay sweeney and it's spelled swinney which is confused against pronounce weenie but anyways <hes> he won the national championship twice talking about today's kids in how you have to recruit them and how it's changed college football it really all of football. He said because they want entertainment. They want you know to be playing video games in the music and everything so he he stays he stays kind of in the in the core range and then he gets off track a little bit here but he talks about football's become more open and in terms of just the offenses are much more exciting when he played is what he starts all talking about but he said <hes> we didn't have fortnight. We didn't have all these games and i tunes and social media. You know itunes cutting edge <hes> <hes> you didn't have that mean what latest thing so. He talked about playing football growing up because what the heck was i going to do if i went home home. I mean sit there. Looking at the wall got three channels. You got lawrence welk and he haw and happy days. That's what you got because unexplained because the kids are like so more highly evolved entertainment wise. The offense is football become that way that's interesting. Do you think that's true. He was right on track and he wants me on. I tunes a little bit. I i mean he. He almost went napster but i always talking about in general i think so. I think you know to to recruit kids. Get them excited. You have to play an exciting brand random football. Which is why you see. These college. Football scores are through the roof but he said this is beginning at the high school level and going up as opposed of the n._f._l. Level and coming down which usually thanks yeah froze yeah just beginning at high school. It's push college and now the pro game has become more like the college game so no more entertainment driven. So how does that actually actually work on the field without getting really technical n._f._l. When we were growing up it was you would run the ball because coaches were so conservative especially college football yeah it used to woody hayes as your three yards and a cloud of dust. You'd hand the ball because you didn't trust a kid to throw the ball because it'd be an interception or a rumble. Something negative would happen. Woody hayes used to say it ohio state on a pass play. Three things can happen at two of them are bad and that was kinda. The philosophy of football now's the complete opposite where you seldom say seldom see running but it's all about throw throw five receivers vers- out a set as a wide open and more entertaining. It's more entertaining yeah. Let's before we have to break for morons in the news. Let's end with one more college. Football story the coach of but the team at liberty university they did lose to syracuse with the top twenty five team and liberty the underdog you freezes the coach and he had gone in for treatment treatment for a back problem. Got a staph infection ends up in a hospital bed all week they we'll him up into the press box not under the regular coach's box but the one next to he's in a bed rican always sit up at thirty degree angles clinton see the field after thirty yards so he called the football game as head coach from a reclined position in the hospital bed cramped into due to basically a radio t._v. and they cut a hole in the wall so he could communicate and make eye contact with his assistant coaches through the wall. That's that's that's a man that wants control yeah barbie assistant coach saying once get better. Let me take it. I can't take a week off. That's right. Thank you jim zucchini. The and sports confused me straight ahead. It is morons in the news on bob and terry. We've got him to win it individuals. Some people leave bob and sheri a more. It's it's morons in the news. Max and i have been saying this for years if she doesn't want to be with you. There is nothing you can do. It's not a case of money. It's not a case of you're changing your job or your location oak and it's certainly not throwing sharp screws in front of her house the so her tires popped which goes to see another guy that and that is what has happened sixty three year old jeffrey colette lives near minneapolis napa lewis and recently he split up with his girlfriend got arrested a few days ago throwing thousands of screws on the road near her house because you wanted to prevent her from driving to see the new guy she stating. It's not clear she ever got a flat tire because of it but listen to this a hundred and fifty fifty other people did and it wasn't an isolated incident e- evidently was throwing these screws every other day for two months and in august alone own purchase over well thousand sheet rock screws. Are you listening to this. Several people live in the area in had to replace all four of their tires after they drove over them and if you had to replace their tires multiple times he's facing a felony charge for damage the property over a thousand dollars. Here's lewd heaven thing that gives me the willies and this wasn't a momentary impulse snows- went on firm with he was staying with it. Yeah that's right for months but scott hamilton new jersey an eighty year old woman fell asleep in her car and while she was sleeping a carjacker apparently opened the door removed her from the car stole the vehicle and left her sleeping in the driveway. She told cops she bone asleep around nine pm in the car and woke up on the driveway with her car missing at around four o'clock in the morning. That's fry eighty years eighty with no memory of what happened and bruises an abrasion or face. They've found the vehicle abandoned handed and trenton. They haven't made an arrest yet. I this is my future. I'll be think i'll think oh. I have to take care of me. Meows from dance jeremy. You'll be like fifty and i'll fall asleep and someone will steal my van. <hes> thirty-five year old guy orangeville ontario canada was court last week and is part of his sentence for drunk driving. The judge banned him from driving a year within five minutes. The guide violated the ban by driving away from the courthouse of cops saw the whole thing arrested him immediately so let me ask you. This was the cop in the courthouse where the judge gave the sentence. You cannot dry for a year ended. The cops say to himself. This guy drove himself here. I'm gonna follow him out of the courthouse and see what he does. I think that's exactly what happened. Yeah 'cause because it's today's moron of the day is the world's most chill man. He's was a customer in a bar in saint louis when a robbery robbery went down. A robber walked into the bar. There were only a handful of people there with a heavily modified pistol rob the bar and the customers immerse. The witnesses said the criminal was definitely on something and you only took money in cellphones. We have security camera footage showing one victim. Victim not only refused to cooperate but who lit a cigarette in coolest could be stood there chatting with the armed robber no when the robber you tried to take the man's phone. He refused to give it up so the robber moved on to the next set of customers and forcibly took their cash in phones. Police police have not yet arrested the suspect but you can see him in the video this guy when you watch this. It's like something out of a movie. It sounds like something out out of a clint eastwood movie early such dangerous tech very dangerous text the word moron to eight eight eight two six to seven four three seven and we'll send that straight off to your phone. That's that's what people in the real life you know. The police always say if they had a gun or something something or a knife or whatever just give it up because your life is worth more than the fifty bucks or whatever it is you watch. I would pee myself so you in order to get my phone phone. You'd have to step around that. I would be so scared. This guy was so cool superfoods eight hours of sleep meditation walking hobbies all of these things that you're supposed to do to make yourself healthier and they're all really great things right but wouldn't it be awesome if you could start your day with something that was easy and convenient. That was definitely gonna make you healthier. Make you feel better better. That's your care of vitamin. 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We take ambien get up in the middle of the night right and consuming entire refrigerator and that's what she was doing and she wouldn't she would sit there and chew it and swallow it and never wake her up. Vicky has a story worry. Welcome to the show vicki. So what is your deal. Do you take gambian more but i did a few times <hes> and one time on <hes> when i was taking it apparently cut on hair off in the middle of the night from like it was about longest the middle of back and when i woke up the next morning and looked in the sink it was covered in hair and then looked up in the mirror and my hair was like a short pixie cut no you did that must've been jockeying no huge where i think i'd rather get up in the middle of the night in eat a can of cat food cut all my hair off so i could not believe i did that. So are you living with anyone at the time. I just laughed because that were you living with anyone at that time our oh my word and he didn't you're married to someone who doesn't wake up when you're up wandering around and cutting off all your hair wow oh apparent. It wouldn't be very noisy wooded. I'm here. I'm just i only know my own experience count chocula who if i blink in the night he wakes up and says this is something wrong like there's no way that i could be roaming around cutting my hair and setting things on fire. Where were you kind of frightened at first because you know in order for here to be cut. Something sharp has to be involved. Were you nervous that somebody had broken into your house and cut your hair not really because before when i had taken ambien out of the fleet cleaner so i had no i mean i knew when i when i seen it. I knew that i'd done it myself and i knew i eh on ambien. We we get up at invalid and mike weekly you unclean wait. Oh here's a side effect that i'm interested in you. Get up in the middle of the night and clean your house. Come live at our house for a while. I will let you cut your hair. I promise get up and say oh no ambient because house like the living room was completely moved around everything t._v. Everything you see on total opposites automotive. We have i have to say some people use ambien and it's very effective for them well before we go any further but there are these stories i gotta say except for the haircut. If i woke up to a clean house i would say n._b._a. Back to do a good job cleaning oh i did. I didn't really good job. Maybe better you know not fan awake than i was totally coherent queen. Would you so in your cleaning. Would you run the vacuum cleaner and stuff like that and that noise. I didn't wake you up well. I don't think i ever ran a vacuum. Maybe just because i knew the kids were asleep and they had to go to school but <hes>. I doubt like i said on new furniture. I cleaned it completely clean refrigerator out like everything out of the refrigerator down everything. That was the cutting. We're here at the end of ambien for you. Is that it actually. I didn't take it for a while and then <hes> ticket again later a year later and <hes> i had another really embarrassing incident and then after that i was like you know serbia for you. You auditioned at a strip club. What was the what was the embarrassing incident. Can you share i'll. I'll be very selective with our like. I said i was married at you know at that time apparently <hes> in and my ambien whatever i ended up <hes> i had not been sleeping with my husband at the time. Tom completely split up but apparently i went in and yeah try together tried to save the marriage shaw in the middle of the night. You showed up to rekindle some stuff and in the morning. Where did you wake up. And when did you realize what you had done well. My daughter told me that you focus on <hes> and i was like what and and i was like okay no more after that is over. We gotta be done move whole so. You didn't realize that you had spent the night with your husband has been but i do hope that the pie i told him to get time. Probably you know that is really nice. A parting can gift on the way out to do some research on how in the world ambient works in your brain because what you're describing all of it haircut in cleaning your husband or your ex-husband. That's an the amazing thing to me that you can do all of that and not the await. I wake up. It was probably the case but i know you don't want to mix alcohol with ambien. You can you imagine if the neighbors would've had a good time. The neighbors would have been. I guess he slept with your husband last yeah well you know hair grows back right. That's right ball tout well. Now ex was not like larry. He probably knew it was very unusual but thought you know home. Fella gets lucky sometimes. That's thank you vicki very much. You we'd love to hear from you. You can call eight eight eight p. o. v. s. h. e. r. I can d m s assam facebook an email bob and sheri dot com or a talkback message on our app which is free google play in the apple store. It's bob and sheri the free bobbins sheri and instantly the podcast the and bob and sheri fun size so several years ago you may recall. I told you about this. I had a brand new car and i decided a to visit my sister who was living orlando florida. I made a road trip out of it. I was single at the time and i drove to her house and she had to leave and and she said <hes> it was great seeing you but she had to go somewhere and her girls were gone and the house was empty and so when i got up that morning to <hes> continue i was going to go to visit another friend near miami. <hes> there is no one there. There was no one there so i packed up all my stuff and i got in the car and and off i went and i noticed that i needed <hes> gasoline and so i pulled into a gas station along the side of the road and i got out and i could not find my wallet now i was about three hours from my sister's house and i cannot find my wallet and and so that means no credit cards no cash no nothing and it's a crummy little gas station so i called my wife and we're trying to figure out what to do. I i i was panicked. I was absolutely panicked. Finally i i'd gone through the car i went through the car one more time and lodged between the seat and the console out there was my well. It was such a relief well yesterday. I have to go over to the home depot to get a couple of items. I have smart keys so you know you just get in in the car. You push the button which foot on the brake and it starts up and so <hes> i got into the parking lot and went to take my keys and i cannot find my keys. This is how wired instantly. I'm back in florida but you wouldn't have been able to just correct yeah but what went through my head you remember when i ah my wallet on my car and drove to work and it went flying off and i thought it was a bird. I thought that because i had gotten out of my car to get something well after i started. Did i thought you put your keys on top of the car. You backed out. Don't turn the car off and at this point us. I'm sitting in the car because if turned car off the keys art therapy and started to get you wouldn't have been able to drive away from your house without your keys if i started it. Can you do that. It will let you go away from your key fob that far. I think takes something beeps. I guess i don't know but that's what was going through. Luke give you an indication of you know. I'm running but the fobs nah okay with that didn't go through my head. What went through my head was. Mike never turn my car never turn my car are off again and so i there's a guy next to me who's just pulled up and while he's looking over i am going. You are so stupid and i'm using bad language. How can you do something as stupid as that and i'm gesturing with my hands breath. I probably looked like somebody. The police should be identified. If i had pulled up alongside of you to park yeah i would have kept going. I would have moved my whole. I probably looked like somebody should call the cops on you. Don't know what i'm up to. I'm completely out of my mind at five pulled alongside of some man who was gesturing and cursing to get himself and yelling <hes>. It's time to call the law i would. I would think you were on speakerphone but i would also just go ahead and park somewhere else. Yeah yeah well anyway anyway. I went through the card like two or three times and then finally i have this this little little area up your car. Has it where it <hes> you can. Charge your phone. It has a little charger thing. I tossed them in there and they got caught on something and they were daniel. Hi there were hiding. Mike highs were hiding from me and i found them. What what that is one of the most wonderful feelings in the world. Find your keys. There's a real defcon five hair-trigger situation here. I know i know it all expect to florida having no money being on the side of the road. I'm homeless now. I know where are my keys. I never turn my car off again really escalating. I keep a bag of change known in the carson always have money because because of nearly oh it messed me up. It messed me up so you wish i i wish failing a math quiz. It had that impression yeah yeah. I know us the talk back to back teach on the free bob and sheri app and leave us a message. This is going to be really fun. I'm gonna to give you the names of a bunch of celebrities these celebrities. Some of them are still active. Some of them have passed the way but one of them has the most iconic hairdo of all time the most iconic hairdo time okay and here they are at and this is in no particular order <hes> ed sheeran james dean whoopee goldberg mia farrow brigitte bardot julia roberts r._e._m. The grand day sinead o'connor faucet carrie fisher john travolta marilyn monroe bob marley jennifer aniston audrey hepburn the beatles elvis presley leeann amy one house all have really iconic and distinctive hair could read most famous hair and i i'm. Do you wanna guess it's not dolly. Is it dolly slaven on here. Actually i don't know why she's not. She should be on here and it's not uncle fester immediate no hair but that's also a state news here. It's one of those people that i just mentioned with. The most iconic hair derek is on here will be goldberg mia farrow. It's fair or elvis fairer elvis. Ah okay. I'm going to read them. Starting number thirty four okay okay number thirty four julia julia roberts long voluminous curls ed sheeran's messy look is number thirty three eminem's bleach blonde shortcut is number twenty eight bridge bar does messy bedhead. I never thought of it that way but <hes> you know. I've only seen pictures of her. I don't think i've ever seen her in a movie but i've seen pictures of her and that's ex-. She looks like she just got out of bed. <hes> mia farrow is number twenty six with the short pixie cut whoopi goldberg's dreadlocks number twenty as james dean's high-top tight sites seventeen most iconic haircut bo derek's corn corn rose man. I remember when my daughter alley went to a new school and she was in fourth grade and she got off the bus with corn rose rose one of the girls <hes> did it on the on the that's how long she was on the bus she walked through the door was hysterical. <hes> ariana grande as long straight ponytail is is number fifteen sinead o'connor shaved head is number twelve and now we are into the top ten number ten fair faucets golden locks. How could baton ranked higher. I know just apps all i can. I can still see that poster of her. Just amazingly beautiful woman number nine carrie fisher's princess leia. Yeah cinnamon bun look number eight is john travolta's grease that was on t._v. The other day i had watched i watched a few minutes of it. Did i went out of the room mary washington. She said you're watching greece and i said not really i it was on and i left and i watched her watched greece. I i was not watching it. I was watching her. She had the biggest smile on her face. I can drop into that movie at any point in the movie and be completely clearly energy. It is really entertaining <hes> number seven marilyn monroe's blonde curls. We're up to number six now. The beatles with the mopped laptop look now. We're in the top five number five audrey hepburn spe- high from breakfast at tiffany's number four our jennifer aniston's rachel from france number three most iconic haircut of all time bob. Marley's dreadlocks number two is amy wine houses beehive and expressly is number. One guest did amy wine house behind was really leave from girl groups from the sixties and that had something to do with the album and the production on the album that he she has yeah you're exactly right the the girl groups out of the early sixties had that cut but her sound was kind of like that too so it did all work. I have no idea how you do a beehive but i would love to had tried that just to see what that looks like. Is i have a lot of hair. I bet i could have marge simpson. Beehive gone over. Don't you have to have straight hair to pull a blow low. It's straight who could blow it straight and then. I just don't know how you get it up on your head like soft serve ice cream no idea how that work i want. How do you wash then well. I mean i think you don't i think once you have that hairdo. You're kinda in it. Will you could wash it again then you'd have to but it's it was really time intensive. I would imagine when i was a little girl. My friend's mom had this enormous poofy. This was out west this enormous poofy fi kind of like a beehive. Do you remember the character in bugs bunny. I think he was from outer space and he had this enormous head of hair are and bugs rather than be eaten by this monster decided to give him bugs started acting like a hairdresser and he began teasing out the monsters they're gave him. This big heart shaped. That was what my friend's mother. That was the monster from the <hes>. The horror movie castle is that where comes from yeah anyway. The bugs character. I think was called. The monsters called monster and bugs was like this as marvelous on my friend's mom had that hair uh-huh and as a little girl i was fascinated by it and <unk> not she you know she added her house. She had one of those old fashioned dryers that you sit under she. She had her own a bond. I think it's a bonnet dryer and she would roll her hair up into these big curlers and she would sit under that drier and then she would take the curlers rollers out and tease it into a big cotton candy heart-shaped poof. That's how it was done. Spray the gebes out mesmerized. Yeah yeah max founded. That's exactly what her hair looked like. Elvis presley's hair really was something was he. The first with that no that was just it was just starting and he actually had that haircut. I was reading about it. He had that haircut in high school and and all the kids made fun of not not all of them but a lot of them the ones that didn't make fun of him became lifelong friends and had a really good time as pals of the king. I think he saw the the wild ones was brand. Movie cook his look from that move a little bit yeah. He loved motorcycles too so you probably right. That's right ex- sorta brill cream. Pompeo's yeah yeah that's right. It's bob and sheri get them on the day sent right to your phone x. Moron to eight eight eight bob share eighteen sixty seven four three seven. You want to hear a real nightmare. I mean it's nothing compared to what the people <hes> in the bahamas are going through but it just shows you what ah this hurricane is doing. We have friends <hes> they both work. They're very successful. They up to grown boys. The boys have one has i think of fiance the other one has a girlfriend girlfriend and once a year they get together and they rent a house at a beach somewhere. This year was on the georgia coast five thousand dollars for the week so it's great big house can't get their money back in the can't go there they they don't have there's no travel insurance. They've just they're out all that money you look at the contract which they didn't it says it says act of god doesn't matter take me to court doesn't matter and talk with the guy who was <hes> it was a either an airbnb or it was one of those and he says i'm really sorry but it's in the contract and i am going to keep the money i i buy travel insurance now. I i have in the past years. Why whites mostly sleep you don't buy travel insurance until something happens and you wish you had bought travel insurance and i had that last year and so now i buy travel insurance appeal a coastal a coastal week would be a good place down good place at this time of the year anyway. I don't wanna slag on oprah because i love oprah. <hes> i have no magazine comes station for me and the whole issue for this month is on friendships and the cover is oh and her best friend gayle king who's on c._b._s. This morning i think is what it's called and the whole entire magazine. The whole september oprah magazine is about <hes> on friendship which i think is so important as women. I wanna read oprah's letter from this once issue to jail king just no it's it's to all of us who read the magazine and it's just to remind you that <hes> oprah lives a life. We cannot imagine her we go. It's rare that i make a big decision without asking gayle king for her input of course even if i didn't ask gail would offer that's the kind of person she is and that's fine with me. After after all these years i know i can count on her council rely on her judgment and depend on her taste the taste part i mean literally. I recently hired a new chef. After a year long search as you might imagine gil was among the first people i invited to my table to sample his work. Chef raymond knew just how to win her over after he heard she liked peaches. He made her a special special. Peach salad to go with are perfectly delicious pan roasted c._b._s. Sealed the deal. If gillard dislike chef remains food. Would i've made the same decision. We'll i'll say this if she disagrees with something i wanna do it gives me pause and the reverse is true to the few times scales ignored by advice. She says she's regretted it and it goes on and on and on and there's a picture of the two of them in oprah's dining room. Eating chef remains to invest so here's what's happened. This is a life. I cannot imagine i i know and it's very easy to say you should be quiet. Oprah because people don't have private chefs however she has been so rich interest interesting learner for so long that this is who she is you know. What does it mean that she's not the same nice person who talented person we that's her life. We we all do this at our own level. My girlfriends came over to my house saturday night and i made dinner for them and i said i found this new kettle. One botanical ios budka. I know how you prefer vodka just calorie drain. It's a different level. That's seven roman. I i have on cattle and by the way just say the kettle. One cucumber mint infused botanical vodka is delicious hit. That was some club soda and a squeeze of lime. You're good to go. It's all in one bottle. It's it becomes that way kennel one botanical skip the cucumber mint infused excuse version and if you drink enough you won't notice you don't have that and so my wife. Mary has been using native native deodorant for a while and she kept trying to get me to go off of what i was using she was saying it's just not good for you. Bob go to native you've and you know. I just wasn't ready at the time but i tried it out. 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You know you've been thinking about it. Why not jump in take twenty percent off your first purchase at native deodorant dot com and at checkout use the promo code sherry s. h. e. r. i that's native deodorant dot com. The promo code is sheri. I'll care how hot you are and i know you're hot. The hotdog native is going to work for you without aluminum parabens talk native deodorant dot com promo code sherry back to the podcast. Are you hiring and with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on qualified candidates online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash ass higher. It's bob and sheri. Let's go to eight b. O. b. s. h. e. r. i we've got billy billy ray on the phone. You'll ray ray. Don't call him billy ray. He's the aren't you bill. You're so tired of that my name my mom's name was billy jean so i'm just bill right now ray. I i love it very good so you're calling to talk to sherry about the fact that she is going to be marrying people. She's like a reverend now. I've been your date by church shooting america marriage ministry and you you did the same thing <hes> bill right back in two thousand ten mile. My cousin he stays is in baltimore. Maryland was was going through. His second marriage was pretty close. He said i don't want nobody to marry me but my cousin bill so <hes> i said well you do the paperwork and pay the money and i'll do it and he rented a house on the beach. Did the out of banks it was called the dream because you had to have we all had to have full gear drive vehicles. I get to the house and we were there from sunday to sunday and we had a blast and that was my first they send you papers on what to say a and then you can have them to do their own vows and but it's a lack of the paperwork they send you and they tell you what kind of tied or do you mall. I told what am i want to be a river in my real. My real name is william steve ray but everybody calls me bill ray so my i got my caller kristen call. It says i can marry people married people and i can do <hes> baby dedications. That's the only two things i can do. What's a baby dedication so <hes> <hes> maybe case where you've been dedicated to the church. Okay yeah. I talk hi hi. You're on the air. What what do you want to hear your stepping on bob's air he he does baby this is going to madison. It's a little maroon five for the baby. That's why i love the look on bob's face bill ray. He was like whoa whoa now. Man reverend learned reverend william <hes>. Do you recall the words you used the marry your cousin and when i say mary your cousin if you're just tuning in he was the reverend go ahead. Eh especially the same thing that you hear it's basic web and you know the u. I rotate her ginny and then it's just it's just a process because you have to have a wedding planner and he has music and stuff going on so he doesn't. It didn't take about fifteen minutes and we were done. Did you did you when bella should a little bit by saying ira. I know that when you found jenny you knew that your world was going to change for the better and that there be sunshine and beautiful flowers on the path of love you say anything like that but listen genie had road out everything for me and i say it was her as it was her first marriage and it was out of the second marriage. We had to go along with the broader. You know to do everything but i just recently did a second one. My second one was just two months ago. A friend of mine gotten a buy a week before he is getting married and his minister backed out on him. No he called me. He and he called me. He says he said five hundred dollars and if you come and do my waiting for them because i understand you got license so i did my second one just a couple of months ago. <hes> and you've got five hundred. You got five hundred bucks for it. Oh yeah you know they're telling me that you go to. We got like local vineyards around here. Nabbed around my area go there and just and just just have be on standby and make extra money just performing moon and all you i have to do is i didn't know that know the rap and you've got to be ordained and and what what minister you ordained in reverend bill well ray. I am just in the baptist minister. I only ordained in the state of north carolina now. I'm not all space like you or i only do it here in north along well. I'm marrying someone in colorado so you know i had to get. I had to get flicked ordination everywhere so that i could do that and marrying someone in north carolina and in colorado and if bob and mary would like to renew their vows. I'm available to go to san jose santa bell island. You wanted to go to renew house in florida and officiate wouldn't that it wouldn't it be romantic had enough of what what you get the hang of it. You know what though bob if i was the she's already doing it like nothing. She's got and weddings billy bob. If you marry renewed your vows and i was your minister i was your efficient. The combination combination of the two of us with wedding vows would cause a rip in the first. We can never do it. It's too it just standing there next to my wife. Look at it. You me saying bob repeat after me. I bob bill man. That's great you. Help your friend out. You made a little money on the side to help out another guy. That's fantastic. Keep it up all right. Listen you guys every day. Thank you bill you take associate. You reverend reverend. Thanks ever take care my fellow clerks. We have a special bond. I bob bob cannot believe. I was roped into redo dallas. Ah during why is sherry on our second honeymoon santa bell you gotta keep this up. You're gonna go today and by a black buick and put one of those where you can park anywhere. That's a minister whole them do that. Clergy that's right are you can call a loss at eight eight eight b. O. b. s. h. e. r. i. d. m. us on facebook or twitter. You can shoot us an email at bob and sheri dot com. You can get our app. It's free in in google play in the app store and shoots the message it stuff you wo- here on this show bob and sheri hot cast on the bob and cherry okay. I have to tell you something in <hes> that i did when i was out at the sports bar the other night and i want you to tell me if this is growth or i'm becoming an even bigger weirdo than and i am okay a be honest with me so mary is at a time with one of her friends at the beach and i went over to the sports bar to <hes> to have a glass so wine and a burger and i found the little table that i always like to sit at with her. It was open so i sat there. I know the bartender. Everything is going very good. I even like whatever the game is. That sought and i look over to my right and there is a fellow that i've known i i. I didn't well but our kids played in the same sports sports league for awhile. He's a great guy and he's over there talking with a friend of his and i went oh there's so and so <hes> maybe i should go auburn auburn's say hello and i thought you know i don't want to interrupt your conversation and then i'm going to be drawn into it and then my drink is going to get warm and you know now i'm off to this conversation and i'm just going to stay here and i'm gonna eat my burger so <hes> that's what i did and he saw me and he came over bob. How are you. I haven't seen you so long. I went. Hey tom how are you. It's great to see you and he said well. I saw you over there all alone and watch come over and join us and here's where the question is whether or not it's growth or on becoming even more of an oddball. I said you know <hes>. I'm just gonna stay here because <hes> i've got some emails to go through and it's just been a long day and i don't want wanna interrupt what you've got going on talking with your buddy over there. I know you're talking about something. That's meaningful between the two of you. I said i didn't wanna go over. I think that's growth. Do you really ely. I do don't lie to me. I here's why i think it's growth because she didn't want to go over and you are under no obligation to get up and go over such a nice i sky. Those lots of people are nice people. That doesn't mean that you need it to accept that invitation. You aren't being codependent. You said a boundary. You were polite and you got on with your day. That's growth with this means now. I can go on the canadian cross country train ride where i could be. Oh was that detest. That was the test test. Now probably never go but i've never gone before because i've always worried about you know the dining car. I'd sit down and there would be this couple from wherever they say. I'll feel so sorry for us. Come on and sit with us on now. Here's the problem though <hes> on the train car. You may not be able able to sit alone because there's a limited number of seats. You may have to sit with other people no choice label. There's always it's like a little table for two people for one another. Solo traveler may have to sit down with you but that doesn't mean that's not the the same thing as you have to accept other people's invitation. You know it's i'm going to tell them the have an imaginary friend and that will you will have the table the you may have the entire yourself at just act like you don't speak english. Oh that's good yeah then. They'll ask me so you know <hes>. Where are you from. I can't do a good enough maquette carry italian or french very long if he does that first percival the voice he can really sustain his peter laurie so he's going to sell like eager. It's like when he told the guy that the chinese restaurant guide that he moved now yes to live in that light if he tells hall. I'm joe speak english now. He's going to spend the rest of his cross because 'eternal. I know people who are wondering my wife just does not want to go in the train. Pipe jam trained for five. We're i'm not doing it but i always i see pictures. It looks so nice doing do you've proven that you can are you worried. It's she's going to be like oh. I can't live without you. She'll be fine for roughly quick to say no. I don't know what's inside right. Another person's relationship going be get off the train. We love with y'all. Go away and we know why we do. You know what we love when you go away. 'cause i want you to be happy. Rent at once jeff read again. I can't believe this. It's bob and cherries believed. I believe a schoolteacher in mexico is in serious trouble in parents are demanding that this man be fire higher because he had a very unusual approach to keeping students from cheating during exams. He made each student in his class. Take the test with a cardboard box on his or her head and i'm going to post the photo up to our facebook larry in fact let me show they didn't fire show bob the it's fantastic. It's a room full of box. So parents are really really angry about it. They said that it's demanding. He'd get terminated. Do they have holes in the box was so they wouldn't sheet looking at they could see only their own papers <hes>. They said that the teacher has violated the rights of students has humiliated them and that this is a form of violence and in response the school said actually it's dynamic exercise to help psycho motor development development and then all of the students had consented to put the box on their head prior to the exam is this charlie sheen. Highschool is up. There's there's what's interesting there. Although this this and these kids they all have like imagine getting some boxes together to move there on different boxes. There's there's like a heineken box on one of their heads a school in bangkok <hes> did a something similar except the kids had to make these blinders unders that they wore to prevent them from cheating they had a headband with flaps attached to it that prevented them from seeing what was happening on either aside they co yeah bob the pictures like they have a heavy kinda thing right with two pieces of paper on either side. It's a little more distinguish anguish but not much. It's a little more humane. I mean you compare that picture to the kid with the heineken bucks on his i know so. Did they fire the teacher. Not yet know the school has defended the teacher and the school says that we are all about ethics and values news and ironically the teacher. That's in trouble was teaching a class an ethics and values no kidding yeah a how could you cheat in that class so really how lower yow right so terrible seriously. What do you think about this and if you look let me zoom in so i can show so bob there. There are partitions cut out of the box fronts. Kids can see their income home from school like seventh grade eight and said today. I had to wear a box on my head while he took an exam. I might go over to the school and talk to the teacher and say i understand and you probably have noticed the problem them but is there not another way. Can we just keep their desks farther apart something because that is really humiliating to be honest i have to. I'm just if one of my kids came home with this story i would. I would have to be scraped off the floor. I will be laughing so so you wouldn't have a problem by calling the school. I'm not going to demand somebody. Get fired tired for this now. Can i throw something else in life is hard and if the worst thing that happens to you is you take your ethics exam with a heineken box on your head. Trophy got off pretty good. <hes> here's something else for. Can you believe this. I just picked this up today. Sonic the drive inchon which is a very good driving chain is now selling deep fried oreos orios with a site of ice cream for dipping so so the cookie. The cookie is not enough. You gotta deep fry it and once you deep fry it that's not enough. He got put it in ice cream and then you pile were looking for ways to kill ourselves. The worst thing about this story is you said ed sonic and my brain went the hedgehog yeah so that's available right now. <hes> you can't tell me that doesn't sound delicious to you. You know i've never liked oreo cookies enough to go through all i would eat them as a kid. Okay it's chocolate so it's hanging around up. Let me be honest. I did an entire sleeve as kit right but <hes> as i got older they just don't appeal to me that much my father dipping in milk and all of that i don't like it. My father loved oreos. Dead mother would buy them but they were only for him now. They did have three children but we you were too busy with boxes on our heads school exams so as kids. You know how like when you eat something. Your dog follows like your hand to the package. Dog watches you to follow exactly. That's what we were like with oreo cookies. He would eat it. Publicly weren't allowed to have any yeah so here's what here's what i vowed is a kid. Listen man saddam day. I mean have a good job and i'm going to have all uh oreos i want but here's what's so unfair about life. You grow up and you lose your taste for that kind of you. Do you do which is is why i say. Kids have having a box on your head. During an exam is the worst thing that happens to you. Suck it up. You've got off the right post. These pictures of a facebook haters orioles right downstairs in the vending machine. I've i've lost. You still don't have any delicious like what i said. I would eat them as a kid. Did i don't want him now either play but as a kid i thought yeah you're gonna dance on your grave with a double stuffed oreo in each hand and of course that's not at all what happ- abc bobbins hairs sharing named again. This year is one of the most influential women in radio. Here's bob and sheri. The story just broke from people magazine. Kevin fedor line accused britney spears father. Jamie spears of abusing their thirteen year old son sean kevin filed a police report on august twenty saying there is some kind of altercation while brittany and her two sons were at jamie's house. Jamie reportedly broke through a door to get to sean and shook him violently. Kevin also got a restraining order against jaime on behalf of the kids. Britney did not oppose it. This is the interesting part of this story for me here. Kevin and britney also agreed recently to an arrangement that gives kevin federal line seventy percent custody of the boys while brittany gets them unsupervised for the other thirty percent. They've already been doing it this way for the past year but now it's official. Kevin's attorney says that kevin evan wants the boys to have quote continuing and meaningful contact with their mother but he believes this arrangement is in their best interest for the record. People apple says this is people magazine that their time with brittany will be supervised and that kevin's custody is going to be closer to ninety eighty percent would have thought that k fed is one would be the stable is the stable influence on the children's lives. I mean certainly it used to be a punchline but he he is not anymore. And it's you know you unless you're in somebody's family and even then you sometimes. I know you really don't know what's going on but i thought that <hes> her father jamie was the lifesaver for her and that family he was the well ooh managing all of her money that he he has been he has he. I think her father's the reason she stole live it very well. L. may be but this is kind of crazy. That kevin fedor line you know is taking out a restraining order. You never a thirteen year. Old boy can drive you crazy. Let me just say that. I mean you don't know if he was in there spewing gardener what and and the and the grandfather just lost his temper and burstyn saying you you don't talk to me that way you you don't know oh that that to me is not what's surprising about the story. It's the custody arranged because yes well. She has struggled. I mean i mean just struggled with mental illness problems. Not she's not performing. She's not doing anything and she really oh. She's not performing oh because she had that residency in las vegas attention opportunity to extend it and chose not name. It was about a year ago. I remember that there was some sort of hearing where he was getting more money. Kevin federal lines more money and remember thinking to myself. What did he need more money for well. This is why because really doing the line work. It's a carrying for those boys and if he's doing that. I forget what the figure was. It was a substantial amount of money. It was like you. It's like thirty thousand a month. There was thirty. I think we know is thirty thousand dollar. Increase a month yeah summer borderie was going and so you know you hear that and you know it doesn't take thirty thousand dollars a month to raise a couple of kids however unless one of them's dancer however let me just say that she has tens of millions of dollars so let's say she's kicking in two million dollars a year which is i don't think it's that much. I actually think it's that much yeah i'd have to i'd have to google google it and pull all the stories together but it's significant. Here's a here's a really weird fact and that is that her oldest son their oldest son is only four years younger than britney was when she hit wow is that right he's thirteen yeah. That would be right. That would be very right. I hope she can find some path to peace she. I don't think she's gonna find it on a stage in lonestar. That's half may be a very. I private yeah. It's just so hard for performance who have reached that height and felt the warm glow of those lights in the applause. The audience say that's out of my life now. The vegas residency was as controlled an environment for her as they could come up with yeah and it was still too much like the idea of being on the road. Y'all need to let that golden goose breast and it's not the money it's i'm britney spears but i don't know how much of of any of that was brittany. What do you think max brittany chasing that. I felt like britain was being pushed because there was so much money to be made. Go make the money you have kids. You can assure their future generations so the the only people that would be pushing her would be the record company and management. I don't think she wanted bob doesn't have a manager anymore. All you switched the family to boost mobile and we got so much more like quite well. We got four free style fi phones four lines for one hundred dollars a month. I smashed up the car unlimited gigs wait. Did you say you smashed up the car. Yes it's completely completely smashed but four free phones switch to boost and get four lines for one hundred dollars a month four free phones with two gigs all on our super reliable super fast nationwide network network boost mobile the switch that gives you more terms and conditions apply you customers only visit business dot com for details talk back teacher back each on the free sherry lab and leave us a message so i read this thing about how to get out of plans that have been i was drawn into it and i said let's see what i learn here seventy six percent of people who faked an excuse to get out of plans. <hes> said they just wanted to stay home and binge. Watch something on t._v. When we skip out on our plans were most likely to do it. Via text just calling and leaving voice mail was a close second however it's just that if you're calling there's always that possibility that they're going yeah and and that's usually a pretty high possibility forty three percent of people who have faked in excuse said they feel guilty when they cancel that includes forty seven percent win blah blah blah but sixty one percent also said they had a great sense of relief. I know that feeling when you you you you've been it's been sitting on top of each days and you don't wanna do it and you don't think about it but all of a sudden. It's the day before we go. Oh my god i have to go on that retreat no no and then you say you know what life life is too short. Do you agree mary as it's too short bob and you're calling the excuse and i don't know what the excuses you know. One of the kids sick sick or something like that. You get an aisle but she lives in chicago. Bob knows mary's child mary's child and she's she's away. It's really not the the one that we still have hampton the rash. It's unbelievable. He can barely walk and then you get out of it and as soon as you hang up. It's like aw we're free. I mean it's like getting a vacation. You know what i mean. It's like a like a short mini vacation when you get out of these things are there. Maybe that's just hear any other strategists. Yes <hes> you see what the other one is here. Fifty eighty two percent of people who faked an excuse say they say something to go the extra mile by embellishing to make the excuse more believable now. I feel that that's a mistake. Well let us learn at the feet of the master. I feel if you start embellishing and giving details about you know <hes> <hes> hamptons to- fungus and how long he's had the to- fungus and the amount of time that you may have to spend in the emergency room if it gets anywhere it's too much you you just say he's guys so fungus civil and and <hes> he's hurting and we have to stay with as little exactly you cut it clean. Believe me you know because when when you catch your kid lying when they're little right what are they do. Oh i can i know when my daughters are not being truthful because mount of detail right it goes on and on and on twenty seven percent of people who fake say they've avoided social media so they wouldn't get caught in a lie of course twenty six percent turned off their phone and a few have turned off the lights the house just in case somebody drives by and you're not supposed to be there. I meyer people that when you invite them to do something they go now i don't want to you don't find very many a married one and i just can't even i can't imagine acting that way. Does he say he doesn't want to make you say sometimes. He'll say i don't want to or sometimes he'll say. Let me check with my permanent. Life assistant and i'll say well. Did you wanna do it. No i don't want to breath. It's just an amazing thing you and i we don't have that gene. I don't have it no now. I don't and what has has happened. In the past and it's bad is that i would go to whatever the event is that i don't want to go to be and before and i'd be not horrible beurre but i'd be a little bit of the pill you'd be a and you'll be not not the event now i put on the phony face at the event and then i'd be i'd be silent just torture to the people you live with yeah yeah. That's what we do. Is we always hurt the ones we love. I think there's something about that. Is there's a song that was a big hit yeah. It was a big hit because it's so true. I don't do that anymore. If i have to do one of those things and i still do i mean if you're married. You're going to have to do some stuff i mean. She has other people in her life. Hi friends and blah blah blah. I don't do that and i but you know what i have to do. I have to say to myself while i'm at the horrible event. I have to say to myself. Don't screw up. I'm talking to myself ahead. Don't you stand over there with a push son. Go talk to somebody. Just talk to put a smile on your face. Come on phone you are. Let's see at work here. It's get it you know because if i'm just standing around and not talking to anybody then i'm a pill and i it's not worth. I think it would be better if we could be really honest. Socially sometimes you bring your plus one along and and he's a great big giant pill yeah and everyone should be able to go. <hes> bob didn't want to be here did he. He's just a pill and we all go yeah. He's a pill and then we get on home with it none of this like mary. I can't believe that you put up with this. I can't i can't you couldn't talk to him about this. Poor mary putting up poor mary. It is what it it is. He's a pill that would be good or it's all good out on the dance floor. Now i do the wobble. He's just a pill. Why can't we allow him not to go in the first place. That's what i do and i've even told kevin. I'm like you don't have to go yeah. We'll go. You'll be mad. I'm like no i. I'm telling you to go exactly how now i respond well. If i don't go and you're not mad than other people be like why isn't kevin year and i say i'll tell them you wanna come. Why don't want you to think that you you can't have a both ways. I'm giving you permission to not come. I'm not there for you. Have you can have it both ways at this point bob if i if i kept lying for him people will go. He really needs to see a specialist dr that i'm not gonna lie nine. He this is me. I i'd love to kevin doesn't want to but i'll be there. I just. I'm not going to put your saying to people. Kevin doesn't want to be with you because he doesn't if he's as i said to be an adult as i send him. If you're cool with telling people you don't wanna go then. You should be cool with me telling yeah you know. It might not be that bad. When mitch's honesty is the best policy it's bob and sheri way because sherry named again this year is one of the most influential women in radio years bob and yeah so i've cut back and watching news because it's just so upsetting and and i'm just so tired of americans hating their fellow americans saying mean things about people that don't agree with them and i just went. I'm not watching anymore but i get drawn back in every once in a while and i am now asking permission of my wife. Would you mind if i just watched the headlines no more than ten minutes then we'll turn it off for the rest of the night. I'll just kind of get caught up with what's going on right. She'll say go ahead and do it. So <hes> you know now. If you watch any news at all there are a ton of drug commercials. I mean every other commercial on any newscast. Whether it's it's the c._b._s. Evening news or any of the twenty four hour news channels. It's got to be their number one area of advertisement. It's like mike if you were studying us from a distant planet. You will go whatever else you wanna say about these people. They are hypochondriacs either that or boy i'll tell you that here is getting to zone because everybody's sick so they they have. They're all the same of course there's these people in these wonderful places and their <hes> paddle boating or they're playing golf or browsing acquaint downtown and having a cupcake store with no other people cupcakes furniture exactly and the town it looks like something out of a movie everybody's fluoride and driving carefully and blah blah and and there are cool things like airstream. You know there's an air stream team. That's turned into his shop. You know what i mean. I mean it's it's just life is perfect the colors perfect and then they have some fine print down on the bottom where they do the disclaimer. If you use zertec <hes> you may have projectile vomiting and blah blah blah and all those things and then there's some real small type and it's on so quickly that you really can't read it so one of them came on the other day and it was unusual because they decided to have type that is not that small and they left it up. I don't know why they did that. It was oh tag oh tigra tesla tesla tesla. That's a. I'm trying to pull it up here. Women above what tesla and down in the corner i was. I got up close so i could see it. Average cost per month for tesla three thousand three hundred and thirty eight dollars does tesla treat <hes> psoriatic arthritis now thousand three hundred and thirty eight dollars. A month could <hes> outside of people when grey shirts yeah i mean you're going to have insurance even covered covered that i don't even know i don't want it depends i guess it depends you still going to have a copay of what eight hundred bucks i i'm. I'm something very large but if you didn't have or if your insurance tag i mean you just that is just breathtaking and everybody is smiling and happy and the ad i mean they're playing tennis and just having a ball of their restoring our and stuff. I saw a bunch of those ads while i was recovering from my oral surgery. We go so i'm in bed with my ice. Pack tied to my head eating my fourth serving of jello and watching that and i was feeling kind of sorry for myself talk and i looked at this poor woman and her rash and thought you know what i am so thank you. I am so thankful that i don't have whatever this drug treats yeah because one of the side effects of the drug is like you're blue. You're hearing voices and you may be insane and i drugs do great things. Thanks for a lot of people be careful of the hackney killer blog youtube over three grandma the free bob and sheri instantly get the podcast. I'm guessing bob and sheri fund size. Would you like to know which cities in america are the most vain you know you would yes and that's usual fend to focus on and we arrived at this based on how much time people spend getting ready to leave the house. Oh that includes showering shaving putting on makeup personal care flaw seeing whatever well. I'm glad i wasn't a part of conducting the survey you know <hes> yes sir hi. We're doing a survey on vanity. How long does your wife spent in the shower our if somebody if somebody will call me and said ou we're conducting a survey on vanity so <hes> how much time you spend royds so i have the twenty five most vain cities in america brad. Yeah we'll start at number. Twenty five with denver. People in denver spend an average of twenty. The eight point four minutes getting ready to go somewhere. Okay then boston than pittsburgh. Minneapolis saint paul clocks in number twenty two with thirty point three minutes. It's getting ready in indianapolis number twenty one now we're at the top twenty houston dallas fort worth seattle tacoma detroit chicago and in number number fifteen position is baltimore thirty. Three minutes spent getting ready number fourteen washington d._c. Number thirteen saint louis number twelve new orleans number eleven san francisco oakland san jose and now we arrive at the top ten venus cities in america okay number ten cleveland ohio thirty four point five minutes number nine is the city you you might have guessed to be number one which would have been los angeles. Los angeles is number nine at thirty four. That really surprises me because i was going to stop you in the top three and say i want. I want to name the top. She weren't thinking cleveland in los. I was going to be next to each other. I was not no. You're going to be so shocked by the top three sorry all right. Aide is las vegas. <hes> number seven nashville number six atlanta number five blew my mind indus philly at thirty six point one minutes but with all the flipping off you do you do need a manicure. All the eye makeup number four is going to surprise you because you probably would have suspect it number four would be in the top three and that's miami yeah. That does surprise me. You want to take a guess at the top three yeah so let me see what's left here for me will definitely new york. I'm just i'm trying to figure out where to put new york. I got new york over here in this box now. Let me just tell you new york's in the top three right so you got to come up with seattle wanna concentrate on the other two chicago's gone san francisco. It's going miami's gone phoenix. Yeah phoenix is in there. I didn't think about phoenix yeah yeah right. That's true the top three. His is number three number two number two so we're looking for three and one all right. I'm going to say new york is number. One new york's number number one yeah so then we have the elusive number three <hes> akron ohio akron akrons down there with cleveland linnet number yeah. You're never gonna guess number three. We could sit here all day. You're never gonna guess it immune idea what region it's in your backyard byard literally number th- charlotte yes. Are you kidding with thirty seven point. Five minutes spent primping before leaving out well. I didn't see any of those coming at all. The only one that i thought los angeles was going to be number. One and new york would be number two. I didn't see phoenix coming in at second. Place did not see charlotte coming in third place and no way did i spot philly at number five. Yeah i thought san francisco would have been up there. Miami would have been through now with my brother live in phoenix <hes>. He's got to have the right bronze or to go outside right. He skews it. Yeah that right bronze or to go outside you know. I think that was a really bad way to do. Who what's the vein of city. They should have done is taken a look at how many salons the lawns are there. How many tanning booths are there any plastic surgery. <hes> practices are there wouldn't be a little bit more accurate. Do you know what two thirds of americans report they do. According to this survey you're not gonna like it. Where's your get your chimes ranks. They're gonna hate it a lot two thirds of americans that means for every three people you look at it in the hallway today. <hes> two of them are doing this and that's peeing in the shower. You're really really. I was surprised too high the that was part of the vanity thing. That's another other things getting ready and people say it's environmentally friendly and it's a time saver. Though there you go there you go those. Are those are not cities. I would've picked that's why. I brought this up because it was so shocked. I don't know if i would have come up with miami but at after you you said miami i i thought you know all of the litz and south beach and you know that area they all seem to be. It's very stylish forward city. I i thought it would come off a lot higher than yeah. It's bob and sheri can crat zimbabwe so he gets to work with sherry. Lynn named one of the most influential women in radio the over twenty years bob and jerry so i think i told you about a week or so ago that i was in discussion with my wife and i were talking about guys that she used to who <hes> she used to date and women that is today and <hes> she was describing one of these guys and i said well he sounds like a dork and <hes> she said now. He's really a cool guy. I said he's not cool like me. She said well i said what do you mean and she said i i wouldn't i would describe you as wonderful as loving as devoted as sexy blah blah blah but i would not describe us cool and that feeling i mean everything hurts my feelings but that really hurt my feelings. I said i i said well. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. You're cool. I used to be cool yeah. I used to be cool but this is what happens is now. I'm i'm taking cat litter out to the garbage. Can your what made you want. That's it's partially now. I i changing a cat's litter box is not what makes a purse ever seen james bond do that <hes> not even for pussy galore exactly no but that's what made you cannot. I'm not blame a litterbox for why you're not cool. I said oh i was doing t._v. Traveling the world. She said i saw you on t._v. On that show and you're you're the guy next door. Blah blah blah but this guy next door wouldn't describe you as school and so i just been you know thinking about that so yesterday i went and got my haircut in a i'm a goner one of the same style as the woman for quite a while and she she cut my hair and i said all right well thank you. She said you know you need to get some of our new shampoo here. 'cause you're. You're here is getting a little dry and this shampoo will help the moisturizer your hair. I really and she said yeah. It's really good. It's got like a conditioner and blah blah. I said okay. I'll do that so so <hes> gave her a hug. She goes away and i go over to the woman who you pay and i said. How much do i owe you. Owe me this for the haircut. You always this for the shampoo so i get up my money and i'm paying the shampoos right there in the county and so i play and i said well you have a nice day today and you have a nice day and then my stylist <hes> evidences have it is day bob bye-bye next time and i go to the parking deck and i get in my car and <hes> i take off. I'm going to see a front of mind for dinner and so i'm just about to the restaurant which is a mile and a half away and i get the phone call and it's <hes> the two women in this lawn my hairstylist l. evelyn and and <hes> one of her associates laughing and they went bobby just paid in your left to shampoo right there on the counter. Oh no it doesn't. There's an you're not cool. Well let me finish so i said okay let me i'm gonna come right around so i go back to where the shop is. I can't find a parking place in front of the shop anywhere so now i'm driving down the little alleyway and there's a parking deck. I go into the parking deck and on the on the main floor. All of the spaces are taken now. My friend has already at the restaurant because he's text me so now. I'm starting to get really anxious. So then i start. I bring the car around in the parking parking lot and i hit the recent and i call back to the shop and i say we will you do me a favor. I can't find anywhere to park now. I'm starting to sound frantic. I can't find anywhere to park. I'm gonna pull up right in front of the shop and double park but there's they have mall cops all over the place. This and they're gonna come over. Could you just run the shampoo out to the car so now they're laughing. Okay so i pull up the door. Flies open open outcomes avalon with the shampoo and i put the <hes> the window down. When of course they put one down in the back because i only unless you and she's standing there. The rain has started a little bit and i put the one down the passenger side and i'm thank you thank you. I'm so sorry i did this and she's just laughing. That is not cool. That is just so dorky. That wasn't your coolest the moment but i think you're cool guy well. You have to say that i guess no. I do think you're cool guy. I mean i tell you all the time. What's wrong with you. It was good for a second half there. Was i not told. Would you rather what's wrong with you. How does your telling me what's wrong with me. Make me a cool guy because when i tell you you're a cool guy. You know that i'm not just saying it to be nice and i am so confused faxed you understand. I really don't know how you are. The cool not cool but boy does my hair look shiny. I hear in your it's bobby. Sherry your stylist. Hey it's bob. I forgot my shampoo. Pull up you now. I am and she would have made are org. 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BTS #23 Andrew DeAngelo on Cannabis Activism, Healing From Stigma, Social Equity

The Curious About Cannabis Podcast

1:57:21 hr | 5 months ago

BTS #23 Andrew DeAngelo on Cannabis Activism, Healing From Stigma, Social Equity

"My Name's Andrew Diangelo. I've been doing cannabis for thirty seven years. I'm best known as CO founder of Harbourside were Vertically Integrated Company in California. We have dispensaries in Oakland San Jose desert hot springs and now San Leandro. You're listening to the curious about cannabis. Podcast everybody. This is Jason Wilson with curious about Canvas podcast. Thanks much for tuning in once again So I am beyond delighted today to be able to sit down and talk with Andrew Dangelo at you. Know there's so many ways I could introduce you. Activists you know co founder of Harbourside. You're involved with the last prisoner project now. Which I know you've been bringing lot of tension to but welcome Andrew Dangelo. Thanks so much for being willing to come on the podcast today. Thank you Jason. It's great to be with your community today. Yeah totally. I'm really stoked to see where our conversation goes. I've been following a lot of your press over the past several months. Some of the interviews you've been doing and keeping up with some your work and there's a there are a lot of milestones to go through but then I know there's a lot you've been talking about lately that I don't WanNa make you regurgitate the same stuff that you've been staying over again someone to try to go in some unique directions here but there's all sorts of stuff for us to Go into right now. One of the kind of segue into a lot of things one of the first things I wanted to ask you about. Is you recently took a trip to Barcelona didn't you? I did I was there for. Icbc Barcelona and span of this. Yes yeah and you. You didn't make it out to the hashish and hemp museum. That's out there I did. I had a great time at the museum. That's Ben drunker zones and operates that museum. He also has one in Holland. Amsterdam and Ben's been old friend of the family for decades and so it was great vehicle able to see his newest outposts there in Barcelona. It's a beautiful building. He's done all this wonderful stained glass work and yeah and if you if you haven't been Barcelona the architecture Barcelona's just every single building every single doorway window archway. is just extraordinarily well-crafted. Beautiful beautiful work and the the hemp and Marijuana Museum. There is no exception and they've ban in his team just done a stellar job with that museum. I encourage everyone to make a pilgrimage to check it out. Yeah I saw some of the photos posted on social media and I was fascinated. How beautiful some of you know the way. Everything was presented the design architecture and everything and I wasn't even really familiar with that museum. Can you describe a little bit about what that museum is like? And kind of how things are presented. And what your experience. There was sure. The museum has multiple levels. So it's two or three stories. There's elevators and stairs that you navigate through it and it's part a history lesson of the plant and and specifically Ham You know the two. The two tracks museum really talks. Most about is is as cannabis as medicine and as an intoxicant and ham has a industrial raw material so so that those are the two focuses. I would say of the museum. And Ben's just got an incredible collection of ancient hemp materials and modern hemp wears also that are represented by some of the leading can't cannabis hemp companies of today. Of course UH sense. He seeds is right next door. Okay Marijuana Museum both in Barcelona Amsterdam and and you can purchase CBD products there and genetics and a whole bunch of really cool will art and culture and Swag from both the museum and since he seats and I was just thrilled to be in Barcelona and an experience that you know we we in the United States. We don't we have cannabis with sort of the first cannabis museum or installation in Las Vegas. There we'd maps just did a big installation in Los Angeles. That was a museum. But we don't have permanent cannabis ham. You know that I'm aware of that's that's as large in a serious As bans I'm sure we have lots of small Wonsan and probably millions of small ones in people's homes. I certainly is yeah I got. I got some in mind mile in my altar of course but you know so when it. It's not easy to have a museum. You know museums don't make money. They lose money and they are about building culture and about keeping something alive for future generations to learn about an and that's hard work to do in our movement in our industry is still in the embryonic stages and I look forward to the day and I hope Stephen I get to be a part of it Where there are something like that. The Hemp Museum here in the United States a- every city should have won. Every every community has cannabis story that goes back hundreds of years and and we can all tell our own version of what's happened over the last hundred years so it's part of the cultural work that I think we're moving into sort of a cultural renaissance canvas. We've had you know we had to legalize and that was just brutal. One hundred year war you know and now we have all these little battles to get legalisation right which we have not done and and of course you know. We have a lot of work to do to get legalisation rights. So that's going to be ten thousand battles that we're GONNA have to fight for that. The cultural work is really something that I think our community is going to have a lot more fun within the political work and I I really. Creativity and culture is been one of the strengths of the cannabis movement community for forever. Going back to the jazz age you know going back to the brothels of New Orleans going back to Jamaica going back to India Longtime in this plant has inspired the creativity of men and women all over the world and so we get to come out of the shadows culturally now and into the light and Where are colors loud and proud and and talk about the plant in ways like a museum? There's millions of ways to express cannabis culture but a museum certainly one of them and you know the there's a big wide open cultural world out there that I hope your listeners will will embrace. There's also I know you know. Science on this podcast. There's a big sign this world of cannabis scientists just like just like culture. It's in the embryonic stages in Gosh. I can't I can't I can't think of something more exciting right now. Then to be working with canvas science or cannabis culture. Yeah Yeah no. I totally agree. It's the research going on with cannabis. Now it's like we've hit a breaking point and now there's just idle waves of information coming out people interested and I know things are are right. Now we're in the disruptive period Dealing with the coronavirus and everything. But I've I've been very blessed in my life to have the chance to work with some universities that you know are now now that hemp is legal. We can touch the cannabis plant. And even though it's not hd rich cannabis were still able to touch the cannabis plant. We're still able to a lot a you know in do some work that you know a lot of these institutions have been wanting to do for a long time and like. I mentioned to you before we started. I'm originally from Mississippi I. What did my Undergrad work at the University of Mississippi and spent some time at the cannabis lab at the University of Mississippi and so on the farm or I? I didn't work on the farm so I worked for the. It Department for the university. And I was one of the go-to technologists that worked on instruments and different things like that in the lab during the time. I was there so I spent a lot of time when I when I was there. I spent most of my time in the research and development lab indoors but I did get tours of the outdoor facilities. I saw how they processed everything it is fascinating and talking on what you just mentioned the different perspectives of our culture around cannabis. That's something that weighs on me heavily coming from Mississippi coming to Oregon the culture shock of like brand. I have friends that are still battling to avoid going to jail over. A half gram of cannabis in their cars whereas now I'm in Oregon where people are driving around with pounds of cannabis in their cars. You know legally as part of their business So it is fascinating and I think it's something that is under appreciated that we have so many perspectives around the cannabis plant in our relationship To cannabis laws in cannabis culture And I I agree with you. That work that I look forward to seeing done is promoting these stories and helping people get a more rounded understanding of how society has been interacting with cannabis You know throughout time but also in different places in the world at the same time. We're in a fascinating place and your activism work. I think is. It's really great that you get to interact with all of these people that are fighting these different battles and learning their stories and being able to share those with people to kind of open people's eyes a little more that there's more going on here than maybe you see in your just your immediate community. Yeah well actually. Jason Wants Stephen. I learned that the most powerful way to do cannabis activism is to tell the stories of people who really need cannabis and whether that the HIV and AIDS patients in the late eighties and early nineties. And and some of that pioneering work that was done by Denis Perron Brownie Mary And all of us at that time or kids with epilepsy more recently. That is how you really. We have to go through the heart it. We made all these rational arguments for decades of personal freedom and cannabis's natural plan. And you can't criminalize something like this. And it has historical significance to the human race in. It's been with us for thousands of years and we went on and on with these rational arguments and they went nowhere. And of course we didn't mind making the argument because we got to be in front of cameras or the two cameras that showed up at the press and are the one reporter sitting there with a notepad or tape recorder But we enjoy being the voice but we just weren't that effective and and once we made other people voice patients and an people who need this regular everyday people that America could relate to them. We started to make more progress politically. And then you know mainstream to build a bridge. We could stand on to mainstream society heart and We're still building that bridge in You know thankfully we've made so much progress You know you're in Oregon. I'm in California and and cannabis's legal for anybody over the age of twenty one in end. What a far cry from folks in Mississippi or even my hometown where? I grew up Washington C. Area which has allowed more legalisation than Mississippi does but still doesn't really have access. Yeah Yum yet So you know it's it's it's one of the reasons I lacked was because we could not change it and California. We could change it so sometimes you have to go to to where you can be most effective and and then sort of allow that to be a foundation you build on and and you know the fact that you'll and I another person I know Brad craft in. I don't know if you know Brad craft in but he also went to university Mississippi. He also worked on the farm. And he's also the cannabis industry he's a farmer and You know similar story to you. He heard the call from folks like me and my brother from other places. They are Mississippi and was working at the University of Mississippi was working at the farm. Saw a disconnect between what what was legal not legal in what was being studied and not studied on up at the farm there in University Mississippi Everyone should know. That's that's the only place in in the United States where the federal government has a licensed to grow weed and they grow. That's where they grow all the Federal Resource. We down there University of Mississippi. So you know it's through those stories That we move people to to come in to the movement to come into the industry to come into the culture to come into the science and it's GonNa take millions of us of village. A tribe of people to it took a lot a lot of villages people to prohibit cannabis. It's GonNa take it's GonNa take a village people to free cannabis. I'm I'm that that's the work that's great work. We're involved in right now. Yeah yeah totally one question I had for you given that you have a you know your background in acting and theater and everything which is fun because Myself and my wife were also theater. Geeks says well one thing I wondered in and I asked this because of some experience I've had as well as your background in acting assist in your work in activism given that it kind of prepares you to be in front of people to. You're already sort of thinking in this sort of narrative. Storytelling away Are there have you found that there are ways where you're acting background has benefited your work activism? Oh absolutely the ways are endless. You know you go to Acting School. You go to College. You study acting. That's what happened to me. Anthony the acting bug bit me right around the same time the cannabis bug. Bit Me in High School so I was athlete in high school. Then I got her. Then I started taking cannabis. I felt better than than all the people in the theater. Department at. My High School seemed really fun and cool and they all smoked weed so I and was nice to be on stage and get the attention and tell stories and be in that ancient communion that live theater. Yeah there is something that that just spoke to me. It made me so I studied that in college and at the time this was one thousand nine hundred eighty five and a much different time in and to study. Acting in those days was insane. People said you gotta be out of your mind do anything. The old same was if you could do anything else. Besides be an actor go. Do that. House went all your teachers told you. And that's what all the acting books in said. Luckily more stubborn than that So and but I also love cannabis and I was advocating for cannabis even as I was learning to be an actor and and and there came a point where I had to choose between acting cannabis. I was unable to do both. There is no way I was going to be able to do. Both the world was not gonNa let me same demand insane demands and just you know frankly. The the American theater that I grew up in that time was very sober. And there was a lot of stigma against anyone who advocated for we. News very much considered a hard drug and like to that. Yeah sure Mississippi. Same thing right so so it was hard to get work as an actor with that sort of around my neck but but what I did find and it was painful because you know your dream of being the next Jack. Nicholson is is something that you harbour closely in your heart. You work very very hard. I spent years and years dedicating myself to that craft and making a lot of sacrifices to do that but then I learned wow I started selling weed and I start being an activist and and all the sudden these skills started coming in handy and I found myself more disciplined than most we dealers because I had background in acting. And you know you had to go to rehearsal to be an actor and you had to study singing and dancing and meditation and relaxation on voice and all these things to study and learn and you the practice And though it instill the discipline me that few of my we delaying appears had so that was sort of a competitive advantage. I guess you could say that. I had from that and then of course. Being a leader leading cannabis activism leading cannabis companies leading teams. To get. Either you know engage in canvas commerce better and bigger and stronger and faster or did you change. Because both of those things require leaderships of leading teams and people getting everybody so a row in the same direction and get things done acting skills and my study of the humanities as a young man translated Harry very well into that I think that perhaps you know the being an actor is the study of the emotional life of characters and the emotion. Yeah and the emotional life of human beings and and so you develop an emotional intelligence as an actor that that normal person who doesn't study acting perhaps doesn't have an and then as a leader. I found particularly in a cannabis EGOS SYSTEM. That's filled with constraint and contradiction an absurdity endanger. I found that that emotional intelligence was very helpful in terms of being a leader manager and getting people to believe in a vision in and sacrificed for. Because you can't be in this game without making sacrifices and and when we asked people to do that as leaders we have to show up in the right way and and lead by example and do a good job as leaders are. You'RE NOT GONNA GO. Whole lot of cannabis people follow you for very long right. Yeah have an immersion leadership authority. Well in I'm on that train of thought you know what were some of the I guess. Kinda growth milestones for you as you know starting in the eighties and then working into you know. Now in twenty twenty. I'm sure you've gone through a lot of evolution as as an activist and how you communicate and as a leader how you manage. I remember seeing one quote from you sometime about When you're working harbourside that you learned that you realize as a manager that you had to treat everyone more as family rather than you know. Just the employees manager employer kind of relationship and that was the big you know sort of turning point for you so can you kind of go through some of the that evolution that your loved you. I'm a very passionate about leadership. Kids I do I learn how to do it in the underground environment and then I had to learn how to do it in a in a complex retail environment. Where the you know? Thousands of members of the public were coming every day so that those those are too much different management and leadership ecosystem. So when you're in underground system that I grew up in your freedom depends on your team executing the instructions exactly right and so you tend to lead with a command and control back French bowls of command and control. Do this do it right or you will be held accountable in a pretty serious way Because you know you're risking my freedom you're risking your own freedom. You're risking the freedom of our network our community So you have to lead and manage people with a heavy hand. Oftentimes the folks that you're leading a manager. Managing in underground economies are folks that perhaps have less education less formal training. Perhaps hat more traumatized upbringings And so You have to manage in lead in such a way that that gets people to execute without everybody getting busted when you legalize and you have a license that sell cannabis in a retail environment like we did in two thousand and six. It's a much different world and you have complexities constraints involved in that. You have the public coming in involved in that you have. You have a workforce of mainly people in the beginning of their careers Whether they be bud tenders or inventory managers or safety. Insecurity people or bookkeepers. Whatever they're they tend to be at the early stage of their career and require training and require a type of management that encourages development. Because in those early days. I can just hire anybody. I want it right and you had to be a medical canvas patient to work at harborside when we first opened and you had to be willing and able to work in a we shop and most and there were a lot of people that just the reputational risk or they had a better job in a mainstream industry. Or You know. Who's too risky on? Yeah to go work dispensary. So the Labor Pool that we had to pool from was very constraint and I had to develop people and develop their talent and develop their skills and that required more of my skills as an actor as a theater person because in the theater were dealing with things. You can't touch of human emotion you know we're the commerce is a story or a song or poem it's not something you touch and It so so. That's where the skills really helped me right where. I'm banging my head against the wall doing this command and control thing to not working. Yeah I mean two or three months in harborside. We're starting to grow. The people are starting to come in. The patients. Love our model and I've got people that are quite a bit younger than me working under me. And they're in the beginning of their career and they're fantastic. People are all candidates their patients. They're fantastic people and they're smarter than me. In a lot of ways they know how to do technology and they know how to Social media which was basically just being born at that time they were way ahead of it on. They understood how to gather information better than I did. So I quickly learned that what I had to do was treat everybody like they were doing a play together rather than rather than we were doing underground lead together and it took me. It took me a couple of months to make that adjustment because I would go home and the command and control would just fail. And they wouldn't do it. I mean they just would not do it and then I would have to do it. And then I'd be worried at be at work at five in the morning and that stay in there and all yeah just tired and just a I've felt ineffective go home. Just sat him like something's not working. You know and and eventually you know I realized it was me not them and I had to look within myself and I had to discover new ways of being leader being a manager and once I had that read revelation and by the way I got that revelation by consuming a lot of cannabis in a distress state of of being where. I'm just trying to find the answer in some common home taking my cannabis and being a good Canvas person and I'm meditating on this yet and once I realized hey I gotta get my ego out of the way here and I have to lead way and the next day. I'll never forget it. The next day I my main right hand person at that time was a woman by the name of Adrian. I sat down with Adrian. I said look. I'm sorry if I haven't told you this before but we're a team and I'm going to treat you with respect and you're gonNA come in here and together. We're going to do all these things we have to do. 'cause I'm figuring out as we go to. I've never run a retail shop. And you know we got to figure out how to manage this inventory and keep track of it Because at that at that moment in time that was the big job I had to to face and and once I did that and I had that frank and honest conversation it was more light to actors talking about how we're GonNa do this scene together or to artists trying to figure out creative problem together. Then things started to connect very quickly We started to get a lot more done very quickly. My assignment started to get executed and and and we built trust together and and then Adrian was able to come into work feeling better about her job on knowing that. I trusted her do it on. I would let her do it. Yeah sometimes she'd make mistakes And I had to her make a mistake and then and then say hey look. Let's review this work. And and I think there's some mistakes here so once. You know. That all dawned on me Dan Dan. I was off to the races and I became very curious about this and I started reading all the management books. All the leadership function is started taking classes at the University of California Berkeley Extension Night School program and I became somewhat obsessed. Obsession is something Stephen. I always sort of cultivated. I became obsessed with. How do you lead people in a complex constrained environment where the whole world's against you How do you do it And and that emerging into study was also very helpful. Because I would learn something in or class and I'd bring it into work and I try learn. Yeah and it will work. I keep doing it if it didn't work. You know I try to figure out why didn't work. It makes adjustments in. And that's that's what a truly good leader does all the time every day where we should constantly be in that conversation with with ourselves as leaders were always developing leaders. Leadership is a journey not a destination. Anyone who thinks that you know leadership is a destination is not really a leader because you you learn over time that you learn overtime young and myself as a as you know. So there's the scientists hat that I wear but I'm also an educator and it reminds me of this dynamic that always happens in education where you know you're a student for X. amount of time. Then you become a teacher you're thrust into the world and in your mind you're like I don't know what I'm doing or why even teaching people because I'm still learning so much myself and you have to you. Learn what this dynamic about more about the dynamic the interpersonal dynamic than it is almost anything else and figuring out that it is like even as a teacher. You're on a journey with your learners to navigate waters and discover things explore things. And you're always learning things as a teacher. And if you ever think as an educator that you already know what you need to know and that you're just you know by your own grace bestowing this you know upon other people you're in bad shape that's a recipe for For disaster. You're so you're so right. It s some things. You mentioned Some other things that I wanted to make sure talked about. One of those is stigma. So this concept of stigma. You've you've touched on several times now. Ways that you've experienced stigma along your journey. You mentioned that in acting school. There was that stigma. They are against cannabis that you couldn't really you know. Be Very Open about cannabis for fear it. How you you know I was I was open about it and I was somewhat blacklisted. Because of yeah yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah and then you. You mentioned going in harborside dealing with stigma around dispensaries whether that be from people that might want to visit a dispensary and don't know what to expect or people are working there. So can you talk a little bit about other ways? That you've encountered stigma maybe in Sometimes some not so obvious ways because I think stigma around the industry in ways that are very subtle especially now as legalizations coming about and culture is changing were in this weird mosaic sort of Where a lot of people that have changed their minds about cannabis or are very friendly to it. People that are on the fence and then you still have the people. That are very averse. But it's so much more a sort of mixed pool now. I think than it ever has been people I mean. It's one reason why I have this podcast. And the book that have curious about cannabis so many people are curious and trying to figure out how they feel Though can you speak to that a little bit about some of your experiences stigma and maybe things that you've that you've learned over time to deal with that experience the you know. There's some sense of bread when you feel that stigma there. I mean even as a scientist I feel data Like you know me. Getting involved with cannabis. Is that like putting a mark on my record. Somehow you know our my colleagues going to interpret that There's so many directions we can go in. But that's a topic. I wanted to make sure talk to you about. I'm glad he did because not too many people ask me about. That and stigma is our next big war that we're going to have I'm mean legalisation was the first big war and Lord knows we had plenty more places that we have to liberate legalize but the wind is on our backs with respect to legalization with respect to stigma not so much I while I share your positive Outlook in terms of more and more people become curious about cannabis. More and more people are opening their hearts and minds to different story about cannabis. So I think that work is is is. We've started to do that work. But the stigma is terrible. I mean here we are in California. The state that was the first thing to legalize medical. We didn't obviously didn't become the first legalize adult. But we did in two thousand sixteen legalize adult and because of stigma sixty percent of California is banned. You can't add mind-blowing sixty percent of California's banned because of stigma because the local when you ask people do you want cannabis dispensary in your neighborhood. You have this nimby response. That's absolutely baffling absolutely badly. In in the county. That voted seventy percent sixty four. Which was the legalisation for adults? That county has been dispensaries. Just it's it's the most phenomenal perversity of democracy. In a case like that data I've ever seen seventy percent of people voted for it and they've banned it So at the local level with a few political elites That made those decisions against the will of the voters and you know. We tried to fix it for two years. And we haven't been able to again because of the stigma Dan. That's just the political stigma right. If you get into the cultural stigma you know I used to have to answer the question you know. I started selling weed in nineteen eighty three and by nineteen ninety two. I was a wholesaler. We and I was selling huge amounts of we'd underground and I would go interact with the theater. World or the film world or the academic world or mainstream society. People I would meet they come up and say oh hi. You'RE ANDREW THE ENVELOPE. What do you do for a living? Yeah and justice question was traumatic for me to hear news. An wasn't Enron was. Not just the stigma that society had on cannabis. It was. It was the stigma. I was placing on myself even Yeah and I remember growing up in the eighties and nineties and you know if something went wrong in your life you would say oh God maybe it's because all the smoke and you know maybe it's you know all these lies and all. This BS that was planted into your head about cannabis would start to rear. Its ugly head. You Know I. It's almost like it's just it's terrible demon That you have to exercise up from the early agree. Yeah from inside you and it took me a long time not until the opened harborside and even after even at our remember the woman. I'm in love with right now. I've been with twelve years when I first started dating her twelve thirteen years ago. We had just opened harborside a year prior and I to go meet her parents. Go meet the pair. Yup I'm the guy with the dispensary. The what do you do for a living. So what do you do for a living right and And and so that was after we had harbourside illegal and I had a license. It was still you know I remember talking to Samantha. Well how to answer that question. Do you think should be totally honest. Be totally honest. I'm like okay. How's that GONNA go? I guess we'll see I was honest. Very nice actually Her father her mother were very very supportive and Nice And kind and a very conservative people so it or somewhat conservative. I can't say they're very conservative. But some conservative and and and I was grateful that we were able to get over that and then I was very you know in the subsequent years. Both both of SAM's Parents used cannabis for their own health and wellness So you know we got to know each other Over time but that's that's you know. An and and if you think about stigma and all the different ways you know. I think about a place like Mississippi. Were where you grew up in. Just wow you know where people really really believe that cannabis causes insanity and murderous behavior and people in all. And it'll send you to hell. I mean that's you know. And he's there right you know and and So so the the the stigma any now. There's there's actually a long tradition of of of the Catholic Church churches. I'm sort of marginalising. Canvas people for using our sacrament Over the years particularly in Mexico and Latin America So there's a there's a history there so and the way how do we deal with it okay? Great we've talked about it persists. I don't know how do you deal with it an and one. You have to get validation from people in your immediate circle and community right and I just just like we're doing right now to canvas people were were talking about canvas or communicating with our own community and were validated in each other's sacrifices that were making right now To be in communion with this plant right now is hard. It's still somewhat risky. There's so much stay on. It's still somewhat risky. So so that's one way. We create our own validation circles and stories The other the other ways we have to manage ourselves You know I it. I was lucky enough that the acting training instilled in me a practice that I do every single day That allows me to manage my physical mental health in a way that that allows me to be a little bit. Detached emotionally spiritually From and and it's only really been last few years that I've been able to practice meditation At a place at a point where I'm able to experience this detachment Where where an and for a long time? I was very judgmental on myself because I wanted to. I was striving to to get so much done at and when I didn't get it done or failed. Be Very judgmental myself. And now we're that would also happen with stigma Where I'd feel guilty Or some I would internalize some of that. External Stigma and meditation and and helped me a lot with that internal work so we have to have the external validation and then we have to do our internal work and and and you know ultimately. This is a hard path to follow and you have to enjoy the journey. If you if you don't love this journey you will experience depression at burn out and sadness and and you may feel marginalized and excluded from from society and and then that stigma can really be harmful though so it's hard it really is. Yeah very very hard and there's moments of maybe I you know I'm now fifty two years old. I've been doing this work for a long time. And I I I've I have community around be now that it's it's Kinda strange it if you're not into cannabis in in my work but you know it's taken me a long time to develop that and many people that are you know earlier in their careers and their journeys as leaders may have moments where they just feel terrible because of the stigma and the only thing. I can say in in those dark times is is is take deep breaths and and understand that. What's happening to you in? That moment is a part of you. There's a part of you that has gotten bigger and has overtaken you and that part of you has listened to ally and and in fact is lying to you right now. Our minds play these tricks on ourselves when when we say Oh kinda failure. Nobody's a failure okay But worked so hard on ourselves. You know and the stigma. A the the the most insidious part of the stigma is what it causes us to do to ourselves. And you see this. With other forms of stigma whether it be racism or homophobia or it. All kind of works in the operating system of stigma and hatred is is very similar to each other and you know people what ends up. Happening is our very bodies through slavery or or imprisonment or even death in lynching Become victim to this stigma to this lie to this craziness and and so that's why we have to take care of ourselves and surround ourselves with a community people and work like hell to change it So that our future generations are kissing. Grandkids don't have to experience this torment that we do. Yeah it's intergenerational trauma for sure and I think you you just explained Perfectly you're mirroring my experience so well as far as you know when I moved to Oregon from Mississippi so I had all sorts of trauma from growing up in Mississippi in being involved in cannabis and everything I though I injured my back When I was a teenager and A realized after going through drug trials and everything I realized that cannabis was something that was probably going to be a part of my life forever because of how it was able to help me function. And and that's where thing but I came to that realization in the middle of Mississippi Where you know. There's obviously no access and your whole life will get ruined if you're you're caught with it and everything so that it starts to generate all these different patterns of thinking of like Oh. I can't let anybody know I've got to hide this part of my life away And so even when I moved to Oregon and had that was before Oregon has legalized so I had a medical card. And I knew like I can use cannabis legal aid. There's no risk anymore for me. Just using cannabis in my home you know but still. I would still. My heart would start racing like you know I might use cannabis and then I'd sit there and think about what if someone comes through the door you know or what if someone smells it. What what all these would. If that I would normally go through in Mississippi and I sit there and know to the point I was having panic attacks about these sort of issues and it. It took years and years and years for that feeling to slowly come down and to feel more comfortable but it is still something to this day. I've been in Oregon for seven years and still have you know a much quieter voice or feeling in my body now than it than it has been But it is still there. It's still whispering. Is The bits that you know of feedback that you were fed and your upbringing these cultural messages and everything that we whether conscious or not that we integrate into ourselves and so when things happen. That's what we draw from these these different pieces of programming. That it's our it's it becomes our life's work to Reprogram Nutley. True what you said so true. I mean when I get out of the California bubble and I have to go to a place like Texas. Yeah Oh my God. I'm hiding bathrooms. I've got you know I I'm worried I'm GonNa get busted and Lord knows headlines. All OVER THE PLANET RIGHT. Canada's leader musty with Gosh only knows what they do to me you know are so and all that goes through my mind Ted Day when I go to places like Texas or or I. I haven't been to Mississippi Man I I'm not. I'm not brave enough to go there yet but if I was invited to go definitely go And and we'd have to go through all those those those those traumas all over again because we're not gonNA stop taking cannabis and and and you know so. Wow it's so hard isn't it's one of the when I hear the stories like that when you find yourself locked in your own bathroom in your own home in your own heart right back on you know things are are are weird and you know it's it's it's it's And it's just terrible and and it does. It takes a lifetime to program. That good news is it can be done. Yeah and when you when you get back on when you get to the other side of that and you you can laugh at it and and and realize it's absurdity And what a powerful hold it has on us all. And so you get that detaching I was talking about a minute ago At the end of the day you know visionary plans like cannabis. Teach us to lighten up. Man We all work really really hard. We try sometimes things go well. Sometimes they don't Right now we're dealing with a pandemic and clearly we're not prepared for clearly clearly not prepared for it right and should have been prepared for an and so so But we have to deal with that in an honest way and and and we can't all jump off a bridge right We have to say okay. We end up. Let's fix it And and And so that's that's sort of place I I'm I'm at with it now. Where where you can just kind of laugh at the absurdity of of all those things that that the stigma did them to us and and work really hard to eradicate it from our culture in our society and that's GonNa take a multiple generation. It will it really will but gosh won't be wonderful. Whenever that time is yeah multiple generations from now where you know the world of canvas just like you know the world of apples and oranges right. Yeah Yeah I mean. I had a big moment for me of getting past my own. Stigma was taking a leap of faith and essentially a you know sort of coming out to my family saying that this is the thing that's part of my life that. I know you know probably have problems with but we need to talk it through because it's not going anywhere and you know we need to come to some solidarity. How old were you when you do that? I was probably one eighty or twenty one. Twenty one twenty okay and Because it was right after That whole incident was saying we're went to trials from my back and everything came to that conclusion so then my next step was like well. I need to to my parents about this. And I've been using cannabis for a long time before that But I'd never you know made these connections that it was benefiting my wellness in such a substantial way. You know that I needed to really take it seriously. And that was a really hard thing to do and it was a painful thing to do. My parents and I didn't talk a lot for a couple of years after that. Wow it was. It was really hard. You know a lot of tears were shed and my parents. Just you know at that time so also my dad is a southern Baptist preacher. So let's throw that into the WHO so. There's a lot of lot of dynamics. They're trying to figure out how to wrestle with this news and so it took a while but where I'm at with my relationship with my parents now is though immensely better than it's ever been. And they now use cannabis products for different things that they have issues with. And we've made it to that other side at least within our own relationship with each other and that gives me a lot of hope for what can happen And sometimes what it takes for people's minds to change is for someone they love that then you know be affected by something that they've held this stigma about for so long and then they're kind of forced to decide like. Do you want to hold on to that? You know that negatively or do you open your mind a little bit and Depp into the unknown and see what happens and I mean. Your story is the same mind And the same as my girlfriend Samantha story with. I just told them minute ago. And there's a reason they're the same story You know the fact that your dad is is a a preacher in the community definitely complicated. Things must've been berry. You must've been really nervous right before that conversation. I'm sure because My brother had we had to have that conversation with arquette. At one point you know many many many years ago. I know exactly what it's like. And and yeah you go through this this period just pain and just everyone's angry and hurt and feels betrayed right. There's like feeling of US and confusion right. I mean I remember. They're both my dad would felt betrayed and we felt betrayed. You know and she was just such a hard time to get through that couple of years after the conversation and it was you know after that conversation our family my brother my father did not speak for a number of years and I had to work really hard to build that bridge you know as a younger son and brother And and we were able to do it just like you your story by you know. By the end of my parents life. Everybody Union might parents gave us the loan that we needed for harborside. You know. Wow I didn't know that. Wow Oh yeah well we sold. My Mom's house moved around with us. We were taking care of my mom by that point and and and so she invested that and then my dad. My Dad actually help us because we ran out of a little aloe more and my dad helped us to and we pay those loans back with a nice interest them and and that's how we started harbourside so these family stories. There's a full circle effect. That occurred bright. And and so for for people that are dealing with this right now on your at that beginning. Stage that hard and painful stage. It does get better. Because now the the the cannabis prohibition statement is built on a lie and anything that's built on a lie just can't live in the hearts and minds of people a long and sustained way it just can't especially when presented with evidence like a hurt back or a child epilepsy or somebody's dying from HIV. What really and so. When and a Prince Sense it contradicts the Lai and contradicts the lie on notional level on emotional. And that's an and when you start to do that at the emotional level. That's really where people make decisions. People don't make rational decisions as people make emotional decision so so that story That those family stories. Because it's really it's the first act of activism is is is is is coming out of the to your family and friends and bosses and Co workers and that's the first act of activism. That's when you decided to be an activist and often that that first step is the hardest because You are exposing yourself to the vulnerability of your own family and community and their judgment of you. And so it's very vulnerable emotionally vulnerable thing to do and anyone who does it is brave and to active activism and and it's the first activism. I remember you know Steve is my older brother and so I was raised to be to do this. I was raised to go. Raise Hell legalize weed. But but even I remember when I went to College. I I wore shirt with weed leaf on it and nineteen eighty five and you know is a big deal to do that and I. I was trying to send a message to other people that might be. We people to to come say hi right. Yeah Yeah You've got a friend in me but I didn't realize because Stevens my brother and I was. I was determined to do this anyway. I didn't realize what kind of reaction that was going to have in one thousand nine hundred five in Orange County. Al And so You know he's almost like coming out to my parents. The way that the teachers and the administrators all my God they. They marched me into one office after another. I eventually went back to the dorm. Room changed my shirt because it was just not that you know I was the second or third day of school and I want to work anymore. Kicked out before even started. Yeah but I was selling weed in the dorms too. So it was it was we were we were we were on the razor's edge bit by But now the the that's that it that's early activism you take those risks and it's it's a little bit dangerous Because it's it's not so much that you'll get busted. It's that you'll get rejected by your own family and community and that's almost worse than getting busted. Yeah Yeah Yeah I mean that. That of like exile and something. I appreciate that you say a lot in a lot of your interviews and presentations and things. You bring attention to the concept of cultivating community and even in our conversation. Today you've talked about. You know how to deal with stigma. Develop that community around yourself. You know as well as taking care of your internal self but that's something that I really appreciate that you're consistent about in your message. Is that one of the things that helps with so many things related to the issues that we're trying to deal with alternating community trying to you know in expand that community whether it's you know within your family your friends and when people take that leap of faith of their first moment of activism. It doesn't always go well. It's not always not. Everybody has a positive outcome with that. Like we did. And so then it becomes figuring out that mission of cultivating that community trying to find you know those people that can support you and and and help and and the segues into you know one of the Other things I wanted to talk about before we sign off here which is the last prisoner project. So this relates to stigma released community. It relates to everything That we've been talking about in various ways So can you speak a little bit about that as far as What less prisoner project is trying to do? It's something that I am very excited about coming from Mississippi like I said I have friends that have been busted. You know I fortunately have not been to jail That's just look. That's the only reason but I have plenty of friends that have And so can you speak a little bit? Not just to what less prisoner project is trying to do. But why why? It's so important and why People that maybe are not so pro cannabis to take notice of this and in think critically about what you're trying to do. Well there's nothing I like talking about more than the last prisoner. Projects is big passion project of ours right now. I'm putting a lot of my time and energy into it and the simple. Why of it is cannabis is becoming legal? All over the world and people are making millions and billions of dollars of market share is being created right now And all that market share is being created by people growing and selling and transporting we'd get one way or another. They might be making it into fancy vape pen. But at the end of the day they're growing selling we and manufacturing so and it's the same and there's forty thousand people in prisons who did the same thing and they're in prison. They're not in board rooms. They're not in fancy offices are not publicly traded their their act their bankrupt their loved ones are growing up and and and dying without them their their children are don't have their parents on their their communities is without them their freedom has been taken away their their lives have been totally destroyed going and the stigma and the trauma as well that they've now had to live with you know all the time. Oh yeah the trauma of going to prison and then being in prison during a pandemic when you're not supposed to be there in there in the first place and then you're in there and you're watching the TV and there's a dispensary that's opening right down. The street from the prison. Essential Service declared a sense of service in their publicly traded in the CEO. Just made five hundred thousand dollars last year so That would drive you and me and anybody in prison absolutely insane depressed sad suicidal and and Steven. I WanNa do something like a nonprofit for prisoners for a long time when we opened harbourside we had a program where people could write letters to prisoners canvas prisoners in. We give you a free gram of weed in exchange for writing a letter and the last prisoner project probably had some genesis from from that early program. Thirteen years ago that we launched But you know about a year ago I I stopped running the day day. Harborside and I had more time to to devote to another type of activism and so last prisoner project is a nonprofit organization. We launched about a year ago where we have executive director Sarah Gerston and a a managing director named Mary. Bailey fantastic people. We have a website called last tourism project. Dot Org You can reach Mary at last prison. Project DOT ORG or Sarah at that you are Allen you know. We were looking for people in the industry to partner with us to raise money and we have several programs that you can learn about on our website to do that. and our mission is to get people out To expunge records once they are out and then to reintegrate them into society with housing and Training and a job in the legal cannabis industry so we partnered with a multi-state operator called harvest and We are going to be training prisoners. Who were released and placing them in the cannabis industry So all three of those programs Clemencies enormously expensive and hard to do expunge. -ment is not as hard as clemency but still difficult and and certainly getting people trained and employed and housed Is is not cheap either. So so were. We've got a lot of work ahead of us and many millions of dollars that we need to raise two to achieve those three things and it it may take you know a generation or two To to get it all done because we want to do this. Globally not just in America North America. We'd like to do this work globally. And and you know we're close. We've already collaborated with some of these early releases with other social justice groups so there's many social justice groups now. Social Justice thanked police An issue that sort of becoming Popular as issues go And I'm glad on the needs to be a long overdue and and and so that that's what last prisoner project is and that's why the we have to restore justice and we have to get people out of prison and and you know. I don't think it's right for any of us to be in this industry. Without doing something to to solve this social justice inequality and and and problem that we're having now and it's not just people in prison. It's making sure that we have social equity program that works We don't have that yet Like I mentioned earlier both legalization and how social Equity Works within legalization is not quite designed very well yet It's very clumsy and it's not working so good and and we have lots of fixed their So yeah and that's when you're describing. I mean that's kind of how St the last prisoner project is big Social Equity Project Because I mean let's face it. We're in a situation. Now where legal cannabis? Getting majorly whitewash. Because you've got people of color that are disproportionately affected by the cannabis laws in the first place. So you see who's in jail and you've taken essentially large a population of people of color and taking them out of the game completely while you've now got dates legalizing and all of these companies. Starting to get involved in a lot of them are not diverse. And this is an issue that I'll be talking on another interview very soon with somebody about specifically just about that problem but this is related. The problem with the prison issue social equity all of these things are interrelated and if we don't address them with urgency then the industry is going to develop on the current path that it's on now Which I mean to put it. Diplomatically is not ideal You know if we were to see it run. Its course so I view this as something very urgent for people to pay attention to notice and understand. These dynamics that are at play that this isn't it is about getting people out of prison. That shouldn't be there but it's also about reestablishing the social equity piece That these these people should have a right to well. Here's the thing about social equity that I think is the key and and this is a controversial thing to say but we can't just give social equity lip-service yet way. Social Equity is going to succeed. Is these companies are going to be diverse. And we're going to have a whole bunch of companies owned and operated by people colored that are going to have market share be successful and those of us that have white skin and have grown up with privilege have to be willing to sacrifice for that and that's where it's harder it's easy for people say. I'm all for giving these folks licenses. It's harder for us to say I'm willing to give up some of my market share for social equity and that is bath wear. That's the place we need to get to Be and an until we get to that place. We're GONNA struggle with this diversity issue and the social equity issue because that's the only way it can be done and what happened. Yeah is and we saw this academe. We saw this with affirmative action in academia on K. isn't is at people sue. And they litigated against it. And if if you start giving exclusively or preferential what quote unquote preferential treatment to people of color to try to make up the wrongs and I remember in the seventies and eighties. There is lawsuit after lawsuit and Supreme Court when all the way as big culture war over -firmative action and ultimately you know the court struck struck it all down and and and until why people are willing to make that satisfies and say you know what I'm Gonna I'm GonNa do with a little last so this immunity can do with a little more until we're willing to do that. It's GonNa be hard I think And and that's what I encourage us all to do. That's how he makes social equity work and otherwise were were setting ourselves up for something very contentious within our own community and and that's not what we want. We there's plenty of room for all of us Everything everything you see around you right now should be made out of hemp and is GONNA to be made at him or flax or plance of some kind or another car. What you how you heat your home. All these things is going to be driven by plans or dishonor the wind national thing. So you know it's it's just it's it's time give the program. Yeah and I think that's the big life. Lesson that extends well beyond cannabis that we have to Learn how to see the bigger picture and be willing to sacrifice a little so that we can all Get along better in this life in general and it's hard got digos at play and everything else and you know it's something we all struggle with. It's yeah it's something that we've gotta take seriously in cannabis n n beyond It's something that's becoming a bigger and bigger reality you know just with the pandemic and things that we're seeing People that are struggling and our going to you know tackle some of these issues food supply issues. You know helping people that are less fortunate than ourselves. People that don't have work. You know all these different things like we've got to start thinking about You know what can I do without that others? Can you know have something? It's an important thing for us to have. Yeah I think. Learn except canvas. People haven't chance to league because here because I think one of the things. Many of us who have a deep relationship with the plant have learned. Is that happiness is not something that happens by accumulation of things Happiness is something that happens with the the the the people you have around you demeaning you have in your life the work you do and how all that aligns with with your values. So that's you know whoever has the most friends at the end wins is GonNa go. You know if you WANNA put it in win loss competitive sort of analogy read that I think that's what canvas taught me And I don't need six houses. I need why I don't need ten cars. I need one and and I think that we can recalibrate in such a way that that you know it's a little more equal because otherwise it's just it's not sustainable. The way things are right now. Look what's happening all around us. It's just clearly not sustainable and and you know. Human cooperation has a tremendous Tremendous progress in an economy wealth and and and science. And just. It's all because of human cooperation. Look at any city. Skyline is because of its human cooperation and so human cooperation is how we're going to solve all of these problems that that seem intractable. It's just the compacts. We used to cooperate like capitalism. Aren't working anymore and we need new nuance and And and and you know we can't keep growing and growing and growing we're going to grow to exchange and just at some point we have to say okay. A post growth world is needed here. And Wow it's gonna be really fun because you know we don't have to worry about growth anymore. We can worry about instead of worrying about going wide we can worry about going deep you know and and know and creativity and arden music and these things have opportunity to have a real renaissance You know if if there really is enough wealth in the world to make everybody middle class. If we just figure out the Compaq's we need to cooperate to do that. Shouldn't we do that? I mean right. Yeah at like dearly up to think about should do that. We do that and if there's a way to do that sustainably might not be. You know I mean we might. We might say. Wow you know we need three billion people not eight right and so let's figure out a way to trend that to to that you know and and we have to start thinking of humanity is a global family. And and and stop with all this other. Y- these other models that that may be more nationalistic or more tribal or I mean I mean. Even the canvas community were big tribe. I mean it's it's it's we could be our own country if if I was some way to define that without landmass borders And strong central governments is spiritually. We are our own sort of trivandrum. Country Tuning. My brother talks a lot about this in canvas renaissance in the canvas creed and and you can follow my brother and learn more about this but but this this idea you know this this this is is you know. We are tens of millions hundreds of millions of us. Now that love this plant have the basically the same value system and there's tremendous power and that that we have not even begun to leverage. That's that's absolutely true and it'll be interesting. You know as people get more creative and especially you know when times get tough sometimes that drives some really interesting innovation So it's going to be really interesting to see how the cannabis industry adapts to the Times. We're in now. And how it progresses forward at a really interesting opportunity It seems like Right now that that we can grasp if we can find a way to get our wits about us then and see the vision. I think you know what you're pointing out of needing that higher vision of what are we going towards and not just our little group but as you know society in its totality what are we moving towards and how do we get there and yeah we just haven't had that Leadership I don't think from from very many people that have that level of vision. That's trying to coordinate. You know something like that I agree. It's we're still extremely nationalistic and antiballistic and It seems like Maybe more and more people are starting to clue into those dynamics But you know we still have a long way to go And my hope is that when times get tough like this and provides an opportunity to do things differently and that new standards to lead. Like you're saying the cannabis industry has this chance to lead and set examples for other industries and other other ways of doing things like you know we need to take that seriously and recognize opportunities in grab hold. Yeah we're at a real crossroads. I wrote about this in. I was grateful at Ben's Inga. A published my my piece val prop sixty four and how to fix it here in. California and and you know what's happening in California is metaphorical for what's happening with legal cannabis in Canada again and Massachusetts in lots of places We you're you're absolutely right. We're at a crossroads here and we have You know there's there's the legal industry is really on the verge of collapse in pretty serious way And and and you know we also have to get our own house in order. One of the things I talk about is here in California if we just raised somewhere between twenty five and fifty million dollars we could write our own law. We could ride our own regulations. We could ride our own taxes. We could take the local control away from the people. We could do it all we could win. It's pay to play political system out here and most places in the United States. We didn't build that system a scan of people but we have to learn how to win within it and we can Because now you know our industry however fledgling however constrained by bad public policy. We still did three billion in. California in two thousand nineteen. We only need like one tenth of one percent of that to to pay to play in the political system and win so That that we do have to get our own house in order and and certainly diversity and social equity is part of that Getting Nap House in order. And that's why we have less prisoner project were yet It's worth fighting. We used to have to fight a war to legalise cannabis that and usually when you do war metaphors. You talk about it all the battle. I lost the battle but I won the war. You know the old saying well. Now we've won the war but we're losing the battles. Yeah I mean we're losing the battles And you know and that's where we need to start winning and and we have to pivot. I spent two years in California. Doing this. With the California Cannabis Industry Association. I I'm now private citizen so I'm trying to do this a little bit more from the outside than inside. But but you want you've changed law you're now no longer political activists your political and you have to get in that system and you have to create the change in need to make legalization work better for everybody. You have to do that within the system And that's a whole nother skill set were were. I'm still just learning how to navigate all that I learned a lot in the last two years in and I talked about that. That article and But our primary you know we can't get too angry and frustrated with the politicians for getting things wrong when we don't have our own house in order And and so we're very fragmented right now. If you Google trade associations for canvas in California you'll come I mean there's got to be one hundred and fifty of them We need one really good one big one. That represents everybody that has a ten or twenty million dollar annual budget just for California or eight hundred million even back. Then we start to win. That's what the that's what the NRA and conservative groups. They don't have one hundred fifty. Nra's okay they don't have one hundred and fifty different trade groups raw. They know man they have you behind one they get behind one. They consolidate and boom. They hit your heart right in the face And and politics is competitive and contentious. That's the way the system setup and that's hard People don't like that But I think we can like you said create a new political order as an avenue industry. Order it there's no reason. Politics should be as contentious as it should be collaborative at should be collaborative. And disagreements are supposed to get us to a better solution not not terrorists to pieces. The dispose be like. Oh okay now I have to compromise. Wow that thing in the middle ended up being better than thin way out there to the right or way out there to the left anyway And when you you know I it's not it's so so it's a different thing we're doing now with with fixing all this Because we're we have to win all these little battles now that we've won the war. Yeah exactly on so and last prisoner project is one of those battles and getting people out of prison is one of those battles on And you know making sure. We don't overtax cannabis so that we can absorb the legacy market. Not Launched Pro Vision two point. Oh against it you know An and there's any number of other things. We need to do to reform legalization so that we can create a more inclusive ecosystem And you know the high tide will lift all boats and right now the politicians in the regulators who deal the details of implementing. This are scared cannabis They're just terrified of it And they're afraid someone's going to get sick or some kids going to hurt themselves or someone is GonNa get in a car accident or you know whatever it is they're just terrified of it and they don't realize how good it is and and and all the good stories don't penetrate their minds is as as much as the fearful ones. The haven't even happened yet now. They're right yeah. Better hypotheticals and the real. The good ones actually have happened. Yeah and so you know And so we have. That's that's why goes back to the stigma right And and and starts us back. In the beginning of this conversation. That's doing the cultural workin and telling our stories to make sure and Suratman creating those communities around us to validate us And those communities get bigger and bigger and bigger and everybody within those communities decides to come out of the closet to their parents like you did and their communities and they take that first step of activism and then they go through that process of every want shock and awe of that of that realization in their community and then and then they build then they transform that community from from being against canvas being poor cannabis and oftentimes taking cannabis themselves because the architecture prohibition is built on a lie and and once we can connect people with the stories of the plan helping people and some of those people end up being people they now and love boom. We've we've created change and transformation. Now it's very well said well to begin wrapping up our conversation. I'm so glad you're able to kind of tie a bow on so much of that going back to the beginning. I wanted to throw in there going back to the beginning if we can just get to the point where we've got our museums in every state seriously In Our last few minutes here well one I wanted to. I know a run over. I want to be conscious on your time. Are you still good for a few minutes here I am? I've got a few fun questions for me. That wanted to throw out. That aren't quite as heavy as some of the other stuff that we've talked about. I'm just things I wanted to pick your brain about So one thing I wanted to ask you about is you casually and you might have been joking. I don't even know but you casually made comment. I think it was on your Talk that you did for Green Flower Media. Are you talked about Running a dispensary but one point in that talk. You mentioned something about Jack Herrera dollars or like a currency and you mentioned he said my brother and I are going to work on on on this of trying to get a unique currency or something like that. Were used serious about that. Well I WANNA get Jack Hair's face on currency unthank- Gosh I. I'm not actively working on a campaign to get Jack Errors. Face the one dollar bill We're GONNA have to take that up at a later point but but there are a lot of groups doing you know digital currencies for Canada best. That's what I thought about. My brother and I are not actively working on one. We've certainly had a lot of conversations with people about that and I am probably the last of the analog generations and even understanding digital currency is been a challenge for me to. Yes I understand how it works. How it draws its value. How it draws in like okay. I'M GONNA go pay my mortgage. Can I use? I use? Joined do that on now. I can't oh well. How about groceries? How Bill now how okay. What do ideas illegal stuff off the dark land with it all right? Well something on your end. Someday you might be able to rent with well okay. All right So and it's probably just a function of where I stand on the generational curves of things I think that there should be I worry about the fragmentation. You know how many digital cannabis current race can there be and will any of them have any value if there's fifty five hundred of them and if five hundred of them all have twelve hundred members right out. Is it all work But I I love the idea of digital currency the decentralisation of it and this this idea that were hundreds of millions of tribes strong across the globe. And how do we unite the Outta? We unite that with political even financial economic power. A digital currency might be one way to do that So I'm I'm very curious about ways in which our global community can get connected so that we can leverage that community for political and economic power. I think it's time for us to have political and economic power. I think we've earned that now and deserve it. We deserve seat at that table and but but I don't know how to do it Yeah Yeah and so. We're we're still trying to figure figure that out because we're but I there's a lot of power we have so much political economic power that we're not realizing that that in some ways we're wasting Yes and it's just tremendous when you think about when you think about how divided the world is cheese. Were pretty strong in terms of our unity around this plant that the unity around this plant is very very strong. As as as Unifying PRINCIPLES ARE GETTING. We hear and weaker as just the general principle. Right now a the cannabis might be a unifying principle That's that that can work So so that's some of the more philosophical spiritual things. I was talking about right there with Jack Hair. Jack Hair was man that was possessed with divine madness in and Elliott. Yeah you know in the seventies and eighties and sixty then to to work with this plant with that war going on against it you had to be yet to be a little crazy To make the kind of sacrifices that Jack my brother myself and whole bunch of other people May You had to have that divine madness pulsing through you and and you know our our our founding fathers that are on those dollar bills the day sort of were possessed with divine as well. You know that's what I was GONNA say. It's entirely appropriate jacket. Say GotTa have that divine madness to do really great things I think sometimes so yes according to turn my brother Join Divine. Yeah being willing to kind of jump into the fire So another Kind of a one off question I have for you About your relationship with Denis Perron though that somebody that you know growing up I've studied had a lotta respect for. Unfortunately you know never had the chance to meet or anything but one thing I want to ask you. What's your favorite memory with him? Wow well when I was when I graduated college in Nineteen Eighty nine. I decided I I went to college in Southern California and I just had enough of it at that point. I decided to come to the bay area. I was lucky I was. I was studying acting in the bay area at a conservatory and I didn't know anyone in the Bay area and I was twenty one. I just graduated my older brother. Dennis rolled friends than he said. Well I know you can stay. Denis's house because the you're young and male. Yom and his house that time was a Mecca for young gay man and there were about thirty of them living there at that time. He had this big giant. He's still still his husband. John Still House the House And it's a it's a it's it's sacred ground that house in that how she'd be museum actually someday. I hope that But yeah yeah yeah right now still being used as activist and house in Living House. Oh but you know That journey is ongoing. But I'd like to see that some day and you know I was twenty one and Dennis took me in and I was straight sexually and and and that was interesting. And he my favorite memory when he first met me and he was smoking joining me join us and he looked at me and he said Well Andrew. Your brother tells me your straight. He had kind of New York accent. Yeah Yeah and you know. It's okay if you're straight Andrew in this House. It's okay if you straight as long as you don't flaunt it And and I would always blush when he said because I was surrounded by all these gay men and they were all looking at me and I would and they would all laugh and laugh and Hal and make fun of the straight straight boy in the house and we had a good time with that and That dynamic I got to be in Dennis ouster on no five or six weeks until I found my own place and and and and Dennis was a real mentor to people. He was a father. Figure THERE IN THOSE DAYS. A lot of gay men were kicked out of their homes. Grew up in place in the south. And we're ostracized than were disowned by their own families. And they didn't have anywhere to go and they were homeless and Dana's took them in and fed them and the ruling Dentists House that I loved. Was you the only one rule You could do whatever you want in Dennis. Tasked with But if you wanted to sleep there and not pay money you had to follow one rule now yet. Be there for dinner and he. He insisted on insisted that that everybody had dinner together. and that we broke bread together and and make a big meal. There's big buffet style meal Rainbow Rainbow Family China style meal. Yeah Every night at data's house and that was the rule and he insisted and he would get and he would remember if you weren't there and he would buster. I mean he would get really mad and he called you out. He like the he called out the next day and say well I? You couldn't make it to dinner last night. I guess we'll I guess we'll let them stay here even though we stray. Mamba these not flaunting it. It's okay but make sure you're here tomorrow. And so he would you know he would shame you a little bit that way and you know you bet your darn ask. She'd be there the following night. Because you didn't want to let Dennis now because he was your leader and he was provider it was a real provider news. A man of love and And I'll just never forget that I that was an act of kindness. Not only did he want to stay in his house. We got me started in the we business up there and and and and that's how I got through acting school. You know was selling we that from denison eventually. Who's able to sell him? We to and and and help with that But you know he he. I was just one of hundreds hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of people that Dennis mentored and nurture and inspired and he gets statue. Jack Jack GETS TO BE ON THE DOLLAR BILL. A dentist should get. Dennis should get a monument somewhere. He should have a monument. Yeah I like have a monument. He's gotTa Mural right now down in the Castro. I like to see him out. I like to see him have a monument. Well Yeah I remember Though you know when I was growing up in studying cannabis activism and learned about Denis Perron and his relationship with Harvey Milk and all that separate activism. I remember thinking by the time. I sort of like kind of learned what I could about the story of activism through the eighties and nineties and the connections between you know the cannabis activism communities then lgbtq plus communities and all that coming together. I remember thinking like man. Harvey Milk got a movie but like Denis Perron. Jeez like see how all these worlds interconnect and how. He's been at the center of so much of that because like he. He deserves his own movie to probe everything. Everything maxine like. I said just everything that I've heard about him for many one. That's this known has been very warm and positive That's that's very cool that you've got to spend that time with them As you were you know trying to make it out here very very cool so one last question. I have for you. So you know we talk about cannabis and and that's really great. I know you have other passions though so one thing I like to ask a lot of my guests are what are a few other things that you're especially passionate about other than cannabis that may be Folks might not necessarily know about For instance I know just from following your social media that you're into You've been doing some gardening and working outside and things Though just in general yeah what is what is Andrew De Ngelo. Passionate about besides cannabis. Well I have a lot of different things. I'm passionate about just on the lifestyle level. Gardening as you as you mentioned is one of them right now encouraging people to plant healing gardens so that you have food and even cannabis if you're legally able to So that you know as food shortages shortages happen you know. We can be a little bit more self reliant not so that's one thing I'm passionate about. I'm not very good at gardening. Pat I I. That's Okay I love doing it. It makes me feel really good. It's part that internal work Being in the garden and outside is There's something healing about it. So I'll like to cook Mom taught us about cooking so I love to cook food and and when you can grow food and then cook it asked. It's really great so That's and of course I love. Going theater are still experiencing plays Hopefully we'll all get to do that again soon. passionate about the grateful dead and And you know all the various offshoots therein in that whole culture is something I grew up in an and and and the grateful dead tours were where the counterculture sort of one of the grounding forces of accountable. Yeah alive. Yeah and you know. I haven't done as much pure travel for pleasures. I would like to in my life because they cannabis mission has just been so demanding. But I would like to do more than I'm passionate about going places. I haven't been before meeting people I have met before. Everywhere on earth. There's cannabis and cannabis people and I love going to I got to go to Mexico steed last year. Right Round You know Halloween and and the day of dead celebrations in And I got to meet all these great cannabis growers in Hash makers and activists and it was just such. Oh I opening experience to be able to meet other cannabis tribe members and other countries speaking other languages but having so much in common with them. So that's probably the thing I'm most passionate about right now. We've mentioned a Spain minute ago. I went over there to to experience. Some of that Passionate pursuit of international candidates people in cannabis scenes And united just got a little taste of it before the pandemic hit. But you know these associations non profit associations that are happening in Spain are really exciting. They're gray community centers the weed and the Hashes topnotch in there and they're very social places. People are in there. Working People in there drinking coffee and tea and A little bit different than a dispensary per se but but has aspects that are similar to a dispensary in and. I was really fun to be in another country so far away to experienced that level of freedom and commerce and culture. So I think that's the thing I'm most passionate about now. We can't do. We're we're learning how to do that. Virtually and I think that We may have to learn how to do that. Virtually more and more In the coming months a year or two But it's it's it's it's it's a really tremendous thing to be able to meet canvas people from all over the world and we we have different backgrounds. Different Religions Different Cultures. We different kinds of food. But we have very similar values in spiritual orientations around cannabis. So I've been fascinated by that because You know I for a long time. We didn't know if if our message was gonNA spread as wide as it has And you know I. I experienced that phenomenon going to Amsterdam back in the nineties and just experiencing that Cannabis Freedom Amsterdam off. What could be possible? And now you know the the associations in Spain are doing it and I think we'll get to see a lot an explosion of that kind of activity globally in the coming years and decades. It's going to be a lot of fun to you now. It's party connecting that whole tribe together now and and and we'll we'll be able to visit each other's consumption lounges and dispensaries and yeah and and farms in all be legal out in the open in. We'll be able to share information and knowledge And and then we'll be able to share our customs in our food and our religions are things that that made a special to the place. We were from I- discovering all those awkward being in Spain and not knowing the language it makes me feel bad but at but I also Enjoy the poetry and the the beauty of the sound of of of Spanish in Spain It sounds different than the Spanish being spoken. Mexico for instance That I'm more used to and it's fine to be exposed to these different things. It's it's it's it's it's it's it's part of of learning how diverse humanity is and and gaining respect for for that and and and so. I think that's the thing I'm most about right now. Is is is is connecting with the international canvas community. Yeah Yeah me too hoping I'm able to. I guess once things settle down and get to whatever. The new normal is Be Able to to get out. I mean there's there's great research come out of Spain. I've always wanted to check out that area. I'm connected to Israel's huge and I'm connected to a group that a nonprofit research group that is basically like Slovenia Austria several of those countries. That have kind of come together and are trying to share information and get Funded research going and everything. So have a lot of motivation to try to get out and explore. Look forward to when the unity comes because there's yeah there's so much to learn one of my favorite interviews I've done is with the guy that travels around Asia electing landrace and abilities and in the process he gets to you know meet with people from all sorts of different cultures. That are all connected around cannabis. Then he said something very similar to something. You said that no matter where he goes. There's always a canvas community that he can connect to even if he doesn't know the language and he's totally disconnected from their customs and everything. You can still connect with one another over the plant and that's just been. It's an incredible thing for me to watch him. Do this work that. He's traveling to Afghanistan and all over India and Thailand and Laos. All these places. What a great job right. Yeah and doing it at a lot of risk too. I might add but that experience of connecting with these other cultures and communities. It goes back around once again to what we're talking about at the beginning of recognizing that when it comes to our experience with cannabis there are people all over the world with different experiences that we can learn from and and And we can all grow together by being these different perspective than and getting connected so Yeah I think that's really great. Yeah the magic of the plan. You know it's just it's a it's a magical magical plant and it speaks to us and we here and you know in that bats what we share. And that's what's so magic. I mean it's just a plant right but but breaking transcend it can transcend so much of the boundaries. Human beings put it up between themselves. And what could be more important than transcending those boundaries? Right now so. My brother talks a lot about that. Also In his talks But it's it's it's it never ceases to amaze me the magic of the plant in the intelligence of the plant Every day I learn something new about likewise from and that's one of the great things of being able to talk to people like yourself on this podcast and everything having these conversations. There's never a conversation. I have where I don't learn something new or gain some additional perspective And it's it's exciting And you know at this point. We can start wrapping things up. I WanNa make sure you know. We've mentioned a lot of different things that you're involved in between Arbor side. Which right now. You're an adviser to size that right. They're still involved with operations there. And then and then you've got the last prisoner project and other things going on so at this point. I'm just GonNa Kinda give you the platform and please let listeners know any and everything you want them to know as far as projects you're working on where they can learn more whatever you want to get out into the world even musings. Whatever you feel is important. You HAVE THE PLATFORM. Well thank you. We've covered so much territory. I will say that you have a website. Andrew de Ngelo DOT COM. You can keep up with some of my thought leadership there you can also inquire to work with me or collaborate with me I advise and consult all over. The industry I do some of that. Work Pro Bono particularly persona folks in and others And so I guess I I should let folks now that I'm available to do that now. I don't run the day to day of harborside and and but I am an advisor to harborside and contractor with them big shareholder of course in and just You know still trying to make harborside a company more Greater than it was the day before Is Is it's it's a it's it's our legacy so something I care a lot about instill work on quite a bit And you know I some creative projects some storytelling projects. It's a little premature to talk about them. Right now but Hopefully people keep an eye out for some things with my name on it on that level Things are a little bit on pause in terms of how Roman television production but I hope to get some of those going because I like. I mentioned in the beginning the cultural I've done a lot of can't I can't as commerce in my life and and I love doing cannabis commerce. There's just nothing. There's no greater feeling than selling somebody some week. There really isn't there's that it's not a commercial exchange for me. It's a cultural human exchange And it it thrills me to this day did the very first time. I did it when teen thrills me today? But the culture work is what speaking to more and more because an telling the stories And making it about. I want to rebrand cannabis in pop culture And and I want I want the images and the people that that you think of when you think of canvas to change a little bit and get a little bit more diverse right now and More mainstream right now and And and I want us to also preserve our own unique Called Culture whether that be Hippie Culture Cheech and Chong or snoop and gangster rap culture and Rainbow Culture and REGGAE ROC- culture or all the different tribes within our tribe. I think it's important that we keep those traditions going to and and and and between all of that will create a really beautiful tapestry that will grow in live on unchain every day And and and and and we'll see you know our value system that we've taken from the plant other people take from the plant and will contribute to the culture and and and the renaissance will be on And Future generations will be able to look back at what we're doing right now and feel proud that that their ancestors did took the risk in made the sacrifices so that they could enjoy a cannabis economy. Yeah now very well put I keep thinking about my daughter when she gets older and tell her the stories you know of how far things have come even just in my lifetime. What I've experienced in the prohibition that I've experienced promise you know the changes the evolution and you know in only match and where it's going to be you know when she's in her late teens and starting to wrap remind around all of that You know despite how frustrating sometimes it gets when things don't evolve the way we'd like to see them don't you know. Sometimes it feels like take two steps forward steps back sometimes The ball is still always moving in the bill. Always EVOLVING. And it's moving into a better position than yeah. I think you know what we've talked about. Today is really about being more mindful of that evolution and our contributions in how we drive that evolution. So it's nice to see people like yourself and your brother that are using part of harbour sides deal was setting a new standard and trying to present a new image and new story a new way of thinking about cannabis users and cannabis commerce. And all these sort of things and Everything that we've talked about about stigma you know. That's what it's all about is recognizing that all of us players in this dance that we're in that we have this opportunity to set a new standard that new examples and you know as far as convincing people that don't necessarily agree that some of the best things you can do. Give them a new framework for thinking about this topic altogether and new images that come to their mind. When they think about a canvas user or a cannabis company And you know. That's that's how that change will happen so I appreciate the work you're doing. I appreciate you know the the activism and you know the sort of grand vision that you and your brother are trying to really You know realize and make happen here. It's it's inspiring like I said it's inspired me since I was a teenager and now here I am in my thirties and you know having the chance to connect with everything. It's it's honestly a little low mind blowing how this whole you know your involvement in the candidates space. You never know where it's going to take you and and what's going to happen next but I appreciate all of your work. I really appreciate you being willing to take the time today to chat with me for as long as we have It's been grade. There's a million other things we chat about I didn't even get into talking about Steep Hill and how harbourside was the first dispensary to get into testing. You think as a scientist. That's something that I would have gotten into but so much other. I think really important things talk about that. We'll find another time some time to get into into that but Just want to throw that nugget out there. That Harper side was the first dispensary to do lab testing to so as far as setting standards. You guys have done a lot of great work so thank you for that. Well it was great to be with you today. Jason and we'll see you next time. Yeah sounds great. Look forward to our paths crossing again. The take it easy and anyone listening. If you want to learn more about curious about cannabis you can find us at C. A. C. PODCAST DOT COM. And you can find us on twitter. Facebook instagram And you can find me on link in. Do you want to connect with me personally? The thanks so much and take it easy day. Curious bye bye you want. WanNA LEARN MORE ABOUT CANNABIS. You can check out. The curious about Canada's both available now on Amazon Dot Com and other online. The curious canvas podcast is presented by natural learning enterprises a science education company dedicated to the enhancement of public scientific literacy through education about the natural world. Curious about cannabis is just one of several learning initiatives produced by natural learning enterprises to learn more go to www dot natural learning enterprises dot com or connect with on facebook instagram or twitter.

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