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Trump addresses supporters at DC rally ahead of Congress vote

Frank Beckmann

00:54 sec | 5 months ago

Trump addresses supporters at DC rally ahead of Congress vote

"Supporters of President Trump right now gathered on the streets of Washington, D. C. To call on Congress not to certify the results of the Electoral College for the 2020 presidential election. Today, protesters they're showing their support for the president. The president's son, Donald Trump Jr. Issued a warning to Republican lawmakers who are in challenging the election results. This gathering should send a message to them. This isn't They're Republican party anymore. This'd is Donald Trump's Republican Party. Among those at the Save America Rally in DC Shane Trio of Oakland County, he tells Christiane Ricky's helping the certification process will be delayed today, you know, keep keep keep the fight going as long as possible, keep getting the evidence out there. And hopefully I hope to God that we can get. This craziness overturned at

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Data sheds new light on alarming uptick of new COVID cases in Michigan

Mike Gallagher

00:21 sec | 7 months ago

Data sheds new light on alarming uptick of new COVID cases in Michigan

"Are opposed to impeachment. 5772 new cases of covert 19 were reported in Michigan yesterday. With 62 fatalities. The state's coronavirus death toll now stands at 8190. Oakland County Republican Party chairman Rocky Rich Kaskey has tested positive for covert 19, he tells w. X Y Z TV. He got sick over a

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President Trump set to hold three rallies in Michigan

Morning Becomes Eclectic

00:59 sec | 8 months ago

President Trump set to hold three rallies in Michigan

"Trump and former vice President Biden are competing for votes in swing states of the Midwest. The campaigns have planned a Siri's of stops in Michigan. Democratic governor, Gretchen Whitmer has accused Trump of stoking acts of hate, like the recent foil plot to kidnap her W deities, Quinn Klinefelter reports. President holds an airport rally in Oakland County today, his second time in Michigan this week. He's also scheduled to hit Sterling Heights and swing Macomb County Sunday before campaigning Monday in conservative Grand Rapids. That's where Trump held his final rally in 2016, an event that helped him win Michigan by just under 11,000 votes, his narrowest margin of victory and route to the White House. Democratic nominee Joe Biden encounters on Halloween Saturday by making a joint appearance in Michigan with former president Obama and pushing for Ah, hi voting turnout among black, Hispanic and younger voters who failed to show up in large numbers four years ago. For NPR News. I'm Clinton. Klein Filter in Detroit in

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Young woman declared dead by paramedics found alive at funeral home

Mitch Albom

00:36 sec | 10 months ago

Young woman declared dead by paramedics found alive at funeral home

"Southfield woman gets a second chance after funeral home employees in Detroit determined she was not ready for a funeral self feel. Paramedics responded to a 20 year old woman who was unresponsive, worked on her for 30 minutes and declared her did the Oakland County Medical Examiner's office determined there was no foul play and again determined the woman had expired. The body was released to the family for funeral arrangements. It was hours later at the James H. Cole funeral home that the young woman Was found breathing. EMS crews were called again and this time she was transported to Ah Hospital. Ken Rogowski W. J. R News the

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Michigan woman declared dead by paramedics, found to be alive at funeral home

Rush Limbaugh

00:35 sec | 10 months ago

Michigan woman declared dead by paramedics, found to be alive at funeral home

"Southfield Woman gets a second chance after funeral home employees in Detroit Determined she was not ready for a funeral. Self fueled paramedics responded to a 20 year old woman who was unresponsive, worked on her for 30 minutes and declared her dead. The Oakland County Medical examiner's office determined there was no foul play and again determined the woman had expired. The body was released to the family for funeral arrangements. It was hours later at the James H. Cole funeral home that the young woman was found breathing PMS. Crews were called again and this time she was transported to a

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Charred body of poker player found in Michigan park

World News Tonight with David Muir

01:33 min | 11 months ago

Charred body of poker player found in Michigan park

"The FBI has joined the investigation into the mysterious death of a professional poker player known as Suzie Q., her burn body was discovered in a public park in Michigan grew up, but her career spanned the country and tonight. Investigators are asking for the public's help to together. What happened? Here's ABC's Renshaw. Right this is Suzie. Zahle Professional Poker Player who went by the name Suzie Q. Raking in a fifteen thousand dollar hand. Tonight the FBI Michigan State Police in an urgent search to find the killer behind her mysterious disappearance. Zach's body was found burned on July. Thirteenth in a secluded recreational area of the Pontiac. Lake authorities are not ruling out her death, being linked to someone in her poker circuit, which spanned across the country to determine whether or not. This is a cover up or this. Maybe some sort of retaliatory incident because of her profession, thirty-three-year-old recently moved from Los Angeles to live with her parents in Oakland County, Michigan. She had just been seen by her mother the night before she disappeared her loved ones. Now saying they're at a loss for who could have taken her life I can't even think how somebody could do that. She was a free spirit in the truest sense. She played by our own rules. She followed her dreams. Bicycle Casino is one of the places where Suzie Q. would play poker. She was just in the L. A. Area a month before she went missing, but tonight police honing in on the key dates July, twelfth and thirteenth, asking for anyone who saw during that time to help them with this murder mystery

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White couple arrested after gun pulled on Black family

Roe Conn

00:54 sec | 1 year ago

White couple arrested after gun pulled on Black family

"White Michigan couple are facing criminal charges after one of them pulled a handgun on a black family in a confrontation that was captured on cell phone video are Jennifer King, Erik and Gillian Westerberg were arrested after Wednesday night's confrontation outside a chipotle in Orion Township in charge on Thursday with Polonius assault to wake a Hill, who's black, told the Detroit News. The confrontation happened after the white woman bumped into hills teenage daughter as they were entering the fast food restaurant in video posted online. The women can Seen arguing and after someone steps behind the worst inverse vehicle, Gillian Westerberg jumps out and points a handgun in the direction of a person who's recording screaming for people to get away from her and the car. Oakland County Sheriff Michael Bouchard says the couple both have concealed pistol licenses but had to turn over all firearm is the condition of being released on bond. After the video surfaced. Eric Wilson Berg was fired from his job at Oakland University near Detroit. I'm Jennifer

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White Mich. couple charged after gun pulled on Black family

AP News Radio

00:49 sec | 1 year ago

White Mich. couple charged after gun pulled on Black family

"A white couple from Michigan face criminal charges after one of them was captured on cellphone video pulling a handgun in a parking lot Eric and Jillian Westerberg were arrested after Wednesday night's confrontation outside a chipotle in Orion township and charged on Thursday with felonious assault to make a hill who's black told the Detroit news the confrontation happened after the white woman bumped into hills teenage daughter as they were entering the fast food restaurant in video posted online women can be seen arguing and after someone steps behind the worst inverse vehicle Julian Westerberg jumps out points a handgun in the direction of a person who's recording screen for people to get away from her and the car Oakland county sheriff Michael Bouchard says the couple both have concealed pistol licenses but had to turn over all firearms as a condition of being released on bond after the video surfaced Erik Westerberg was fired from his job at Oakland university near Detroit I'm Jennifer king

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"oakland county" Discussed on Daily Detroit

Daily Detroit

08:40 min | 1 year ago

"oakland county" Discussed on Daily Detroit

U.S. coronavirus cases surpass 1000, Johns Hopkins University data shows

BTV Simulcast

00:50 sec | 1 year ago

U.S. coronavirus cases surpass 1000, Johns Hopkins University data shows

"Right now breaking news according to Johns Hopkins University numbers and in terms of the number of coronavirus cases in the U. S. and has now topped one thousand we were still talking about nine hundred and forty or so cases yesterday so we did see a bit of a jump in terms of the number of new infections in the U. S. meanwhile we just heard from Michigan as well the state governor as declaring Michigan in a state of emergency this after they learned of its first corona virus case actually two cases now in Oakland county and Wayne County which is home to Detroit one case was a recent international travel one was a case that was linked to domestic travel as well so that's the latest out of the U. S. as they try to contain the spread of this virus and still waiting for those details are when it comes to this stimulus plan from

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Oakland County Health Department issues warning after Oakland County cat gets rabies

Rush Limbaugh

00:17 sec | 1 year ago

Oakland County Health Department issues warning after Oakland County cat gets rabies

"New Oakland county residents being reminded to vaccinate their dogs and cats for rabies the Oakland county health division has confirmed a case of rabies in a domestic cat from Birmingham residents are also urged to stay away from animals like skunks bats raccoons foxes and stray cats and

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Oakland County reports 1st flu death of season

Mitch Albom

00:12 sec | 1 year ago

Oakland County reports 1st flu death of season

"The Oakland county health department says a sixty nine year old Oakland county man has died of the flu officials say there are fewer reports of the food this year compared to last year but this is the first reported death in the county this

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Health officials say dead skunk found in West Bloomfield had...

Dennis Prager

00:22 sec | 1 year ago

Health officials say dead skunk found in West Bloomfield had...

"Oakland county has had fifteen wild animals confirmed with reviews of this year which health officials say is almost double last year at this time the latest was a dead skunk found in west Bloomfield though when county executive's office as a big concern is that many of the animals have been found in residential areas county officials are urging people to stay clear of stray cats and dogs along with faxes raccoons bats skunks and other

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"oakland county" Discussed on Michigan Policast

Michigan Policast

14:24 min | 1 year ago

"oakland county" Discussed on Michigan Policast

"People to judge has the distinction of being a gay man who is a serious contender for the democratic presidential nomination. He's often labelled as the first major party gay candidate but that's not the case wall. One of your high school classmates was actually i that is correct. In twenty twelve former actor and gay rights activist fred carter ran for the republican presidential nomination saying he wanted to throw a monkey wrench into the mitt romney campaign because romney's religion the mormons did not at that time allow children of gay couples to be baptized fred ni- came from the same town in the suburbs of chicago <hes> go. We graduated two years apart from the same high school ironically at the same time we were in high school five miles away to another high school. There was a student by the name of hillary rodham and <hes>. I don't know if we ever cross paths or not. That's one of those stories that i can make up later that i actually met hillary rodham when she was in high school. Chances are i didn't but it makes a good story..

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"oakland county" Discussed on Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

09:32 min | 1 year ago

"oakland county" Discussed on Crime Junkie

"The d._n._a. From the hair on chris mahalick did not match chris bush but they did find dini match and if you guys thought this case was confusing before buckle up the d._n._a. Matched a man named james vince gunwales. Although james was in the system now for crimes he committed as an adult as a child he was actually a victim of chris bush and greg green and like many children who are groomed by their molester vince still associated with those men after he got older and the police wondering maybe if he wasn't a part of their like ruse to lure kids like it would make a a lot of sense. Maybe a young kid was drawing them to these older men that they didn't know now. It's worth mentioning that dna. They had was just might akon drill d._n._a. Innate and not a full nuclear profile so while it seemed to match the stats are lot lower than we've seen in other cases like sometimes like it's four zillion to one chance manson's this guy this is more like one out of fifty so it feels like a kind of decent match but also it could be a lot of other men just in michigan alone but now they still still want question this guy so they go to the michigan prison that he's in and just flat out. Tell him what they have. We have your hair on a victim. We don't think you're responsible even if you were are. We probably wouldn't hold you accountable because you're young kid who was victimized and manipulated by grown men. We just need you to help us and he says listen. I can't help you. I wasn't wasn't there. I didn't see anything but i was in chris's car lot like a million times so i'm sure my hair was all over the place so he's not pointing the finger directly at christ's. He's giving them nothing. They could really use but also. I feel like he's kind of saying. It's logical that this victim would've been in christmas card. This is the explanation for my hair and he's not saying chris would have never done it now. They give this guy to polygraphs and he tried to throw the first one for like like god knows what reason he completely fails the second one and answers falsely to these three important questions. Did you participate in any way in the killings of christine heroic. Do you know for sure who killed christine heloc and did you have any physical contact with christine hollick now he he says no to all of them and according to the polygraph failed now if he would have failed that polygraph back in the seventies when they met more. Maybe something would have come of this but in two thousand and nine you can't arrest them based off of a field poly but maybe they could get more evidence to either persuade him or maybe help him like point so chris and greg still had more hairs on their other victims so they needed to keep testing there was a hair on the jacket of our first victim mark mark and two hairs found on the fourth victim tim one inside his enable cavity and one near his groin and to me the hairs found contain are way more damning like sure you could pick up hairs from a car like like we talked about with chris if if it was in his car and she was was put in there that doesn't necessarily mean you did it but a hair on the body of a victim underneath their clothes that means you were with them when when they were undressed that cannot be explained away so they test the hair and the first thing we learn is that the hair for mark and the hair from tim matched just to the same person and i know this might seem like a yadav moment because these four cases have been linked for so long. We've been talking about them for so long but this was the first real piece as of evidence that told investigators that they weren't crazy and that they really were looking for one person but they just had minor cadre d._n._a. On this one too and it didn't match match to anyone but the did match another sample. If you remember way back to the very beginning of the story in episode one the very very first hip police got after mark stebbins murder was they got a call from a parole officer and the parole officers. I said hey check out this art sloan guy he's from pennsylvania. He got in trouble for molesting children and then he moved to michigan the very first guy well detective williams decides to go back and look at old evidence to find new things to test and he comes across the tape samples that were taken from arch loans car you know like where are they just like took as much debris or whatever from seats in floorboard so it seemed worth a shot to at least look and see what they could find when the lab comes back with these say shocking shocking there were in fact hairs mixed in with the debris in his car and those hairs were a match to the hairs found on both the first victim mark and the fourth victim tim so police were thinking. Oh my god this. We have the oakland county child killer. This was the first guy all along. I mean it was shocking to them and the more they looked at arch stone. He looked so good for it. It not only with the past convictions but they also learned that he was a volunteer firefighter back in pennsylvania and volunteer firefighters in pennsylvania use used to get badges and that would've explained so much for years and years people always wondered how this killer got these kids to go with him surely if they would have been forcibly put into a car people might have seen something and it couldn't have been someone for kids knew they didn't have any connection but they i always wondered if it was someone who held some kind of authority someone who could flash a badge and convince the children that they had to go with them without making a scene it felt so right but as you all know this case is still unsolved and nothing is that simple when dealing with a forty year old cold case they can't just use the hair found an artist car to arrest him. They have to get a hair sample directly from him but the hair in his car was at least enough probable cause to get what they need when they test the hair from his head against the hair in his car and against the hair found on the boys it doesn't match no art sloan might not be our killer but this guy is key and he he plays some kind of role and he knows more than he led on decades earlier whether he was involved in the act or not we know his car was involved in at least disposing of the bodies and he likely knows the person the hair belongs to so the person police no is there killer so they have to go talk to arch in prison and where he serving a life sentence for the rape of co-workers child the interview him for three hours they tell him we have hairs from your car on the skin of the victim. There is no way out of this now. They do leave out the fact that his head here is didn't match police aren't required to give all the facts or even tell the whole truth in in interviews if they want to put the pressure on him and make him believe that they have him dead to rights. They can't and that's what they try to do. The want him to give up this other person and but no matter how hard they tried he wouldn't talk and again. Polices hands are tied. They can't go to court with the hairs belong to someone else when they don't know who that someone else is. They plan to keep pressuring arch but then the prosecutor blows up their chances she was running for reelection election and out of nowhere years after it happened she decides to tell the public about the hairs found in the car and the fact that they did not match arch now this ruins and you leverage police thought that they had now arch knows. He doesn't have to say a damn thing so they go in with a softer approach. They offer him immunity. If he'll talk turn on whoever it is that did this whoever that hair belong to. They said that they would even put him. In any federal prison he wanted and tell people he was there for check fraud which you guys that's unreal. The way prison works they can move you to any prison at anytime anywhere making it very hard for you to see the family or friends and it could even be prison with really bad conditions prisoners don't get to pick where they are and pedophile really bad in prison so there targeted it and this time they're offering him kind of a way out a cushy sentence but arch wouldn't budge he would not give up this other guy and why who was it that he's protecting and what kind of power would that person have over him to make him still protect him while serving a life sentence is. Is it someone that could get to him even in prison. Now some say that's not it at all. If he gave up anything it would surely get back to people that he was involved. He'd have to testify. It would all come out in his mind. It would be better to die in prison than to be associated with the oakland county child killer or killings but here's the interesting piece arch wouldn't say he knew the killer or what happened but he did have something to tell police. I sold that car at the time the car that you found all this hair and debris in i sold it to the state police lieutenants son on.

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"oakland county" Discussed on Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

11:48 min | 1 year ago

"oakland county" Discussed on Crime Junkie

"Here and i am back with the second part to the north fox island and oakland county child killer conspiracy now if you haven't listened to last week's episode stop right here and go back. You'll be totally lost otherwise but for those of you who did listen last week. Here's a quick refresher. In the late. Nineteen seventy two big events were happening almost simultaneously the first is that a camp mm for troubled boys was busted in northern michigan and found to actually be a hub for child pornography and sex trafficking. Only one of the men responsible was ever ever in prison and has served less than ten years. The other men responsible fled and lived out their lives and other places and no real manhunt was done to apprehend them. Meanwhile meanwhile three hundred miles south four kids were abducted and murdered in the affluent neighborhoods around detroit michigan. The killings became known as the oakland county child killings. There were a couple of suspects early on and after one of them died under very suspicious circumstances. The oakland county child killer task force was disbanded ended but just because that suspect was dead didn't mean that he was gone from the investigation his name would keep coming up and the search for answers research into who murdered these four children would become much more complicated now. They're caught up. Let's jump in two part two <music> <music> through the entire time of the police investigation into the oakland county child killer keep in mind the all of the families these were kind of kept in the dark about suspects like for example they had never heard chris bush's name or greens name which you know in the early days is pretty standard for an investigation like you want to keep the family abreast of the fact that you're working on the case and maybe give them some updates but police would necessarily name every single suspect suspect to the family but since the families didn't know about chris bush they also didn't know that back when gerald richards got busted for his involvement in that pornography pornography sex rain he had turned over some of his client names and one of his clients slash associates was chris bush. The stories were becoming intertwined but no one could see exactly how back in the late seventies after the task force disbanded not not much happened in the case they had one guy who was assigned to it and if leads came in he'd worked them but those are few and far between and in nineteen ninety three. They thought maybe they caught a break. The child pornography distributor that frank used in amsterdam had been caught and so the police sent photos of their four victims tends to see if maybe they could be recognized in any pictures or any tapes. Maybe there was this connection but that lead ended up being a dead end. The families has waited patiently for answers for many years. The trusted that the state police were doing everything they could but as decades passed these started to to wonder why there was no movement tim's family eventually requested records of their own and started to compile their own file as much as they could while they were working to get their own grasp on the case what they didn't know was that someone from the wayne county prosecutor's office was going to stumble his way into this case as well while reading some transcripts for another completely unrelated case. He comes across one line that stops him in his tracks. I know who did the michigan snow killings now. This didn't mean anything to people that that whoever this person being interviewed was talking to but to the man reading the transcript and everything everything and he knew that he had to talk to this person know the guy who was quoted in the interview was a man named richard lawson so detective williams tells him listen listen. I read your statement. I know you know who did it and this man says no. I said i think i might know and he goes on to tell him about an interesting using cast of characters that he used to run with in the seventies he said he mostly hung out with a guy named bob moore and they would hang on the seedier parts of detroit and prey on lower income income neighborhoods kids where parents might not have been home might not have been paying attention broken families places where kids may have been more willing to go with them for some money or some drugs. He said that his friend bob like to film the kids that they interacted with and they would attend parties where other people would bring young kids and they would swap up and then he said something that probably didn't strike detective williams right away because he was new to the case but something that would stay with him for a long time because once he got his head wrapped around this monster. It was something that made sense. Richard lawson said that bob used to sell the photos and the films that he would take he would sell them to a man named frank the same frank who owned north fox island the interview with lawson keeps going and he he says oh hey i have another name ted or will really or is just street name his real last name like ted l. a. m. something thing and the detective in this now for better or worse and so he starts going through every old tip and looking for any ted l. a. m. and he finds it. Feeder lambert gene the tip. The name was on said that ted was at bob's house and on the coffee table. There was this photo album full of kids. Kids and one of the kids looked a lot like tim who had just gone missing and someone points it out and they all just kind of laugh. When detective williams fines the ted he admits to being a pretty prolific pedophile but says he had nothing to do with the killings. He agrees to take a polygraph to try and clear clear himself but he fails miserably now. The new investigator tries to track down some of ted's victims to understand how he operated was. He even even a good suspect and what he finds is disturbing. This guy ted would groom kids with drugs and alcohol and then after he molested lusted them he would force them into a tub to wash off any evidence he would force them to get clean just like like the oakland county child killer when detective williams confronts ted about his failed polygraph. His only response was god's forgiven me now out to detective williams he is looking so good but he wants him to take another polygraph and to do it even offer him protection if he does at this time he's currently being charged with seventeen council molestation and protection for a pedophile imprison is pretty valuable but he does something totally unexpected expected. He completely clams up rejects their offer and pleads guilty to all seventeen counts doesn't try and fight. It doesn't try and lessen. His sentence doesn't go for a plea bargain. What is he afraid of or. Maybe the better question is who. Why did he feel the need to clam up. Detective williams didn't yeah no but there was nothing he could do and another hot lead went cold for him about this same time. Tim's family has been heating up their own inquiry into the case and they just got a hot lead to pass onto detective williams they had found out through an old family friend who is now a polygraph the graft expert but he was approached by another polygraph examiner and this guy says that during a private polygraph a man had confessed to the oakland county child killings but this polygraph examiner wouldn't say the guy's name because legally he wasn't even supposed to be saying this much. The only thing he could say was that the lawyer had requested this polygraph for his client. That's why he was hired. And that's why there's this protection around it but he did say the lawyer. There is dead and the person who took the polygraph are both dead so the hunt is on and detective william search sorting through all the polygraphs from seventy seven kevin and there's one the fits the bill. The person being polygraphed was chris bush now. This name brand new to the family but detective detective williams already knows this name like we know this name but he wants to try something different. He knows it says all over the file that chris and greg were cleared cleared clear cleared everywhere everywhere cleared based on their polly's but he wonders has anyone looked past those results or has anyone even given those like a second glance and spoiler alert. The answer's no in almost thirty years. Everyone has taken the file at face value someone before me cleared him. I gotta move on. What's the next thing i investigate but detective williams had another independent examiner. Look at the polygraph results and this guy says i have no idea who would have told you that these guys passed because greg was a flat out failure and chris chris was also deceptive like at best chris's polygraph should have been inconclusive not a pass so i mean my questions. Nations are like what happened before it was the original examiner just bad at his job or was it part of something bigger that we still can't fully see when the king your family learns about this understandably fee yuri us this was a very good suspect who was cleared without real reason and a a week after he was let go their son. Their brother was murdered. Could that have been stopped. If things had gone differently back in nineteen seventy seven the kings finally decided to go public with what they have they tried being friends with the police for decades and it's got them nowhere and they didn't feel like the police were being honest with them anymore so they went to the media and openly accused chris bush of being a suspect but accusing someone does not make a trial happen so while public interest chris was stirred and the case was back in the media for a while it eventually died back down until two thousand nine when technology was was getting a little bit better. Detective williams wasn't ready to call chris the killer and closed the book. He wanted proof proof that would stand up in a court of law so he went back back to the physical evidence. There were some hairs found on the victim hairs that couldn't tell them much back in nineteen seventy seven but hairs that could tell them. Maybe maybe a whole lot in two thousand and nine. The hair they started with was one that was found on the shirt of our third victim chris mahalick they did d._n._a. Leonie testing and found surprising results. This episode of crime junkie is.

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Michigan Renaissance Fair Attendees Urged to Get Vaccinated After Woman Diagnosed with Hepatitis

On The Edge With Thayrone

00:29 sec | 3 years ago

Michigan Renaissance Fair Attendees Urged to Get Vaccinated After Woman Diagnosed with Hepatitis

"Now. Dan, Martin a Michigan judge has halted plans by state regulators. That would have shuttered nearly one hundred medical marijuana businesses. As part of a newly approved set of licensing rules court of claims judge Steven Burrell oh granted an injunction yesterday requested by a lawyer for a medical marijuana. Business regulators on Tuesday extended the deadline for medical marijuana businesses to be licensed allowing one hundred eight to continue

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Los Angeles subway to become first in the U.S. to use body scanners

WJR Programming

00:40 sec | 3 years ago

Los Angeles subway to become first in the U.S. to use body scanners

"Fifty six lives a memorial at, I ninety four in middle belt marking the crash site but some of the trees planted, to signify each life lost have been cut down officials say many of the Austrian, pines are dying and they have to be. Cut officials say the. Cuttings are not due to neglect there is a number there is a marker. With the names of each of the victims on it the trees were planted twenty. Four years ago and officials say they will be replanted Americans sixty five and older are filing for bankruptcy at, high numbers experts say this is not hurting economic growth but it does present a serious social problem as dead and medicine costs go. Up

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"oakland county" Discussed on True Crime Garage

True Crime Garage

05:01 min | 3 years ago

"oakland county" Discussed on True Crime Garage

"Okay. So to be, I don't wanna go through this in any more detail than I have to, but the the general, the general thing in this particular cases, this Gregory green not only enjoyed molesting boys, but he enjoyed choking them at the same time on one of these occasions. And I say one of these because he did this to multiple victims. He thought he had killed the boy. So he drove to the hospital and he left the boy and front of the entrance just lying there. The boy ultimately was revived, and so he lived. Luckily he lived. He did have to serve jail time for this in California. Unfortunately, it wasn't a life sentence and he was. Wants returned from jail. Once he's out of jail, he returned to his home of Flint, Michigan, green, and Bush. They were confidence and spent time together and they molested individuals together, including Christopher bushes, younger cousin, while them list of sick fucks this keeps continuing. Okay. So we mentioned that Christopher Bush was spoken to by the police in regards to the Oakland County cases. Okay, right. So was Gregory green what they were able to get from these two individuals is one same story. It's a very troubling story that the two of them at some point had agreed that one of them should get a day job and the other one should get a night job. So if they took a young victim captive, that one of them would be present during the day to watch over the victim and the other present at night. To watch over the victim. However, when asked the question, Christopher Bush would not answer the question as to what they intended to do with the victim when they were finished with the child berry king also in his blog states on more than one occasion, Gregory green stated that Christopher Bush had killed Mark stebbins victim number one. Now green was sentenced to life in prison for violating a child and later he died in prison in nineteen ninety six. So all these guys are connected in some way and possibly had something to do with these murders, half of them are dead yet. We're not definitively saying wanna be clear on that were not definitively saying that this is what happened up in Oakland County would just simply pointing out that there are things in reasons to believe that one or a bunch of these individuals were involved and possibly working. Together to dupe the police to make it harder on their investigation yen. I think people knew that there was, you know, obviously, child pedophilia going on, but I think the idea that there was a rings or some kind of network I think was kind of probably not discussed a lot and seventies is not even discussed enough today. Well, I think for us to get the break that is needed. In this case, I think that James Vincent gunnels is the go-to. I think he somebody that needs to really be talked to at length. He's technically the only one with something to lose meaning that the others are dead or currently serving life sentences. And one of the guys ritual Richard Lawson has already rolled on another person. He's already said, look, I think Ted Lamborghini did this, and here's why read, but then we have the was the last group guy. Is that one of them things that they killed the first victim, correct. But what I'm pointing out here is gunnels is the only one with something left to lose every all the other individuals named in this story that we named suspects in in this group are either dead or serving life sentences. The first sick thing about all this is that most of these individuals that we speak of as big of pieces shit as they are. They are probably at one time victims themselves, and then you have gunwales which we know was victim possibly became accomplice. And I don't think that. Justifies anything. I actually have some suspicion that maybe he is the reason why Bush is dead. Maybe that's why you're not gonna get a lot out of him 'cause maybe is not this network of the sick FOX network of the sick. Fucks did all this stuff and they destroyed these children and they left him on the side of road as if their trash..

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04:01 min | 3 years ago

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"However, they rarely harmed them in a physical way of, let's say, beating them or strangling them, anything like that because they dropped off these boys with the hopes that at some point they're going to want some more money and they'll come back, right? The not gonna tell him because they're so poor, right? And so these men took advantage in, they repeatedly raped these boys and it wasn't just one, two, three, four, five boys. It was a lot of boys that lived in this area. Okay. So the thing here is, how does Lamborghini get on police radar? Well, he got there because Lawson remember his friend, Richard Lawson, who was involved in the same pedophile ring said, hey, I was scared of Lamborghini, and I think he was involved in the murders while why he tells law enforcement about a very specific story. He says. That there was another pedophile that they hung out with his name is Bob more. He was the owner of a bike shop. It was near this Cass corridor. So he's another in this pedophile ring. He kep a photo album of the boys that some of them were involved with at one point one night while they were hanging out in the bike shop, Lamborghini opens up the photograph book, and he's shows Lawson a photo of a white kid from the other side of eight mile road. And he said to Lawson, looks like the king boy, doesn't it and gave him a wink. You'll be glad to know that this other individual that we just introduced Bob Moore died in nineteen ninety six of cardiac arrest in his home, his pit bulls devoured, his carcass before the body was discovered, right? Good Archibald Edward Sloan. He owned a nice shitty name. He owned a nineteen sixty six Pontiac. Avail might Conrail DNA taken from hairs found in sloan's, Bonneville matches DNA found at least one of the body dump scenes. I actually believe that this DNA matches DNA collected from as many as three of the crime scenes. We got to be clear here though because the tricky thing is the DNA is not a match to Archibald Sloan, but just simply hairs found in his car back then Sloan, he was known to have lent out his car to plenty of people. He also owns several other vehicles at this time. He owned a nineteen sixty nine black Chevy pickup in nineteen seventy-one. Blue pickup Archibald Sloan has been convicted of two counts of first degree, sexual assault against a male against male minors, and he is currently serving a life sentence. Okay. I know that's a lot to take in. But what we're pointing out here is that we have multiple individ-. Gills that have known ties to one another and they have some tied to one or two of the crimes and coincidentally they've all at some point been charged with sexual acts against minors two of them serving life sentences because they've committed so many of these crimes. Now, we have to talk about a guy named Gregory green. Now, this is taken directly from berry kings website and blog. He is the father of victim. Number four Timothy king. The task force formally advised the king family that Gregory Greene was a potential suspect and that he participated in the Oakland County child killings. This was discussed when the Michigan state police reports were given to the king family, Gregory Greene was a known pedophile and a companion of Christopher, Bush the Michigan state police reports, heavy. Extensive history of his pedophile convictions in California, including one case in which green thought the boy was dead and dropped him off at a hospital..

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03:48 min | 3 years ago

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"But in regards to that tip and two thousand eight, a victim of child molester Asian and we will not use his name here. This victim testified in two thousand eight that when he was a child, he was forced into sexual activity with another boy that he believes was Timothy king victim. Number four. He also testified that he was later shown a polaroid picture of that same boy again who he believes to be Timothy king. The picture showed the boy tied up in the trunk of what the victim believe to be Christopher bushes vehicle. He also testified that he was present when Christopher Bush. Dropped off Timothy king at the home of a one Ted Lamborghini, Ted Lamborghini, lives at the Kinross correctional facility where he is scheduled to never be released. He is serving life without the possibility of parole. This is because in July of nineteen seventy six. This is around the time of the murders. Ted was very busy committing fourteen counts of criminal sexual conduct eight times with a minor between the ages of thirteen and fifteen six times with a child under the age of thirteen years. Old Lamborghini is not only a sick disgusting pedophile pervert, but he is as slippery as they come because although he committed these terrible acts in nineteen seventy six, he was not caught until he was found in Parma heights, Ohio and December of two thousand and six turns out Ted Lamborghini and his good friend. This is Richard Lawson, were. Operating in a pedophile ring in Detroit in the nineteen seventies and eighties once he's arrested. Here's the aha moment regarding the old statement of we know who did it, but he's dead gets turned on its side here. So once finally apprehended, law enforcement publicly refers to lambere geen as quote. He was our most promising suspect in the Oakland County child killer case, Lawson and Lamborghini operated in Detroit's, Cass corridor, pedophile ring loss in wind caught pointed the blame for the murders at Lamborghini. Lawson is serving a life sentence for murdering his boss and lavonia in nineteen eighty nine. He was arrested in two thousand and five Lamborghini rejected a plea deal. That would have reduced his sentence greatly, but it required him to take a polygraph an answer questions about the Oakland County child killing. And exchange. They would dismiss thirteen of the sex charges against him. Lamborghini said, no goals that lies and cheats on one of the polygraphs. And now we have this individual that will not take one even though he's going to get reduced sentence, correct. So now this is this is pretty disgusting and pretty. It's already been far disgusting here, but we have to clear up how these to each other and how some of the other individuals know each other. So the the cast corridor pedophile ring was basically this, okay. A group of men there. The cast quarter was a very poor, basically, the projects. Okay. And what they would do is they would pick up these boys who wanted food, they wanted money, they wanted things and they would give them things. They would give the money, they would give them food. They give them all three, but in trade, they were using them for sex. And they would typically sodomise. These boys photograph them, throw them in a bathtub, hose them off, and then return them..

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04:23 min | 3 years ago

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"Stinted evidence found anywhere near the bodies that the bodies were meticulously scrubbed that the clothing was meticulously washed that they were looking for a loan serial killer of almost maniacal genius prowess, somebody who would never get found because he they speculated were was so smart in aware of police working and meticulous in, you know, like a Hannibal Lecter sort. This was somebody who is just too smart to be really tackled immediate way, although Hannibal Lecter knocked up. But the reality of this case was not only that there was plenty of evidence, but that all that evidence was was quashed was was shoved aside, and you have to look back at the files and you say, now, wait a minute, not only is it not a scrubbed clean body, but it's actually a messy body and you have to wonder why that was why that was said in the main. The main thing that I found when looking through the documents, the main thing of. Importance to me, we're looking through the documents is that all of it points to the fact that vary on there is an extreme amount of evidence in there were extremely substantive leads in that. There were people who under today's standards of investigative in prosecutorial procedure would have been indicted for these crimes ultimately found guilty. So there was blood evidence. There was seeming evidence. There was fingerprint evidence. There was human hair evidence. There was animal hair evidence. There were carpet fibers. I said, well, carpet fibers. Well, what does that mean to? Let's say, the least of the ovens. Let's say some carpet fibers. All of the kids had the same carpet fibers. Let's say human hair, not just Christine, had human hair on her. There was human hair on multiple buys. One of your thoughts on the bodies being placed out in public areas. I only open and maybe even suggesting that they were taunting the police with the placement of these bodies. Yeah, one of. The things people often talked about in the beginning of the case continued to talk about throughout the decades that the bodies were not just dropped in plain sight but were neatly placed. This is another instance of having to forget everything you've ever learned about this case start from the beginning. The bodies were yes, they were dumped in plain sight. No, they were not placed neatly when people say why with something dumped in plain sight instead of what like buried somewhere out in the woods or whatever. It doesn't make sense to a lot of people. The answer is it makes perfect sense because this is not something that was very well thought out on the part of the killer. This is somebody who just really wasn't thinking ahead methodically, prepare for the murder of and dispose of the bodies of these children. This was somebody who went off the rails, had a body suddenly and had to dump it fast. These bodies were just dumped out of out of the back of a car. A new look at Timothy kings. Photo of his body at the drop site. Now, the narrative that we've been given was that all of the bodies were neatly positioned arms across their chests. This kinda shit Timothy king looks the actual photo of Timothy. King at the drop site looks like he was just dumped out of a car is quick as possible. He's buckled onto himself face down in the snow. He's looks like a dude who just got tossed out of a car. When you look at this black and white. Xerox, I have this photo in you see his body like that. There's no way, no way whatsoever to think that we were dealing with anybody who meticulously planned anything. This was this was somebody the in terms of the dumping of the body at the very least who just needed to get this body out of their car period. We say plain sight, lose two reasons to put it in plain sight. One is one is because. They're trying to make a statement, and that's the narrative everybody's run with, oh, it was two miles from this police station or something. Well, you know, you're in tight quarters, almost anything is two miles from police station. If you're talking about a little area, right, or a couple of miles from the police station, they wanted to build this this lower of like the maniacal killer who has taunted the police in all this shit. It's totally totally misleading..

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03:30 min | 3 years ago

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"I witness and the reason why is kids this individual once owned that car? Well, in a vehicle left clues as far as tire imprint in bumper imprints at the mahalick scene and blue gremlin with a white stripe was seen at the possible abduction site of Tim king. So at least two different cars, but maybe three or four different cars should have been discussed. And yet the focus on the car was put on the blue gremlin, but the blue gremlin. Which is weird here captain. It was still in the parking lot after Tim was reported missing, and the search was underway for the loss boy snaking. It almost seemed like it's it's not connected or if it was connected, it was left at the scene for some reason. It would have been more logical to research the lemoyne's as the suspect vehicle. There was a detailed description of the Pontiac Lamont from the Robinson site and was compared to the imprints at Christine's seen when this was done. The imprints came back to be that closer to that of a lemoyne's and not anything like a gremlin. So too much time was possibly wasted on the wrong car. Well, there's a lot of information about various vehicles that it's important. Understand. I say this all the time it's kinda resonates. The blue gremlin was really a red herring. The blue gremlin was something that was easy to put on posters that stuck in people's mind. Finds was really just kind of a distraction from the reality of multiple other vehicles. Possibly being involved more specifically, Pontiac lemons shows up in many of the police documents. And when I say the police documents, I wanna be clear with you that that I've read through an studied for years now, thousands of pages of internal documents from the Michigan state police, the FBI throughout all that information. Multiple multiple instances of other vehicles show up besides the blue gramling. So I like to put away all thought of the blue gremlin. However, there is one instance of not a blue gremlin, but blue Vega, which is the mirror of the blue gremlin is a same car, different brand that shows up in that that that car was driven by two specific suspects. In this case that become very important later on. So, but let me back up for just a second in dress, the Pontiac lemoyne's. There were other Pontiacs. There was a tempest, those vehicles show up more than the blue gremlin and you could save yourself. Why are we talking about the blue Graham? Why does everybody even think about the blue grandma, gremlin and the answer. It becomes very clear that when you're thinking about the blue gremlin, you're not thinking about all the other cars in that's intentional. Whereas we've seen with the vehicles, the same, be true with the evidence. We've always been told that the bodies were scrubbed, clean that there was no physical evidence, but your investigation would prove otherwise, one of the most misleading parts of the narrative of the Oakland County child killer cases that there was no evidence that from the very beginning in the seventies seventy six seventy seven seventy eight. So he nine into the early eighties, news articles all the time, all the time highlighted the fact that there was no sub..

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04:34 min | 3 years ago

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"Over the years captain. There have been many theories on who is the Oakland County child killer and how has the perpetrator been able to avait capture for all of these years. But before we get into this too much, I do wanna point out that we did cover this case back in may of two thousand and sixteen episode twenty eight if you have the Stitcher app, and if you don't have the app, we'll go get it because all of our episodes are there. I didn't want anyone to think that we are skipping over anything in this case. So if you're thinking that just know that on episode twenty eight, we covered some different angles of each of these four murders, and we also covered more of the doctor Danta stuff. We covered the Allen and Frank theory, and the man from the diner theory. And I even said at one point that I thought that this could be the work of a man and woman team may be a husband and wife. The purpose of these two epic. Roads this week is to explore a much different theory and a theory. Now that might be looking like it's more likely than some of the others explored and captain. This is a theory that is quite similar to some of the thoughts that you had regarding the missing person, Johnny. Gosh. So what we did here was yesterday's episode was kind of a primer regarding the four murders and today we will explore theory not discussed on that show before getting to the suspects that could be tied to this theory. Let's go through the original profile of the perpetrator. The task force developed a profile of the offender based on descriptions given by witnesses who saw Timothy king talking to a man on the night that he was abducted the profile. Describe a white male, dark complexion. Age twenty five to thirty five with shaggy hair and long sideburns because the person. Seemed to be able to gain the trust of children. The task force believed that the killer was possibly a police officer, a doctor or a clergyman. The profile describes the killer as someone who was familiar with the area and probably lived alone possibly in a remote area since he was able to keep the children for several days without friends, family or neighbors. Knowing the interesting thing here captain is we're going to discuss the possibility of a perpetrator that was able to hold these kids captive for several days, but the possibility that friends did know what was going on and may have even been involved in the abduction, the captivity and murder afford Sheldon. So captain. Let's go ahead and introduce Jay Rubin, apple Mun. The author of the new book the kill jar, obsession descent and hunt for Detroit's most notorious serial killer which will be released. Lay. Later this week out, he is the gentleman that you heard in our trailer earlier talking about, hey, I've put together a book on this investigation based off of information that I was able to collect information that was contained in the enrich little in the original investigation Ryan. So basically, Jay Rubin's theories, it's not one killer that it's a multiple, maybe a group of people regarding his investigation into these crimes. We wanted to ask him about some specifics, mainly evidence that has been left out of a lot of the media reports as well as possible, eyewitness sightings of vehicles that could have been involved and individuals that could have been involved in the perpetration of these crimes. So one of the big problems I think with this Vesa Gatien and you think so as well as when they actually started going to the public San, we're looking for this type of individual. They're also saying that they're looking for. Gremlin wean. We know that there was another car that was seen an earlier ab- duck Shen that they never mentioned. Basically saying were looking for this car, but there's this other car that we saw two, but we're not telling the public about that. Well, one of the biggest talked about clues. In this case that has stood the test of time here and still is discussed to this day. Is that car? Is that blue gremlin, however, a nineteen seventy-one lemoyne's was seen at the Jill Robinson murder scene, right? And I hold a lot of weight to this..

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03:10 min | 3 years ago

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"They're gonna be investigators working. These crimes who say to me, well, you don't have all the information because you don't. You're not privy to all of our documents and that's true. I I received several thousand pages of foia documents, but there are probably a hundred thousand pages of talk, you know, who knows what they've got, and they will say that to me, I say to them two things one, it's impossible to refute the information that is in the book because all that information was obtained from the documents. I didn't make it up. There's no conjecture or in some instances where I speculate I say that I'm speculating right information that is based on fact that I legis based on fact, that's in the book. All that information came from the documents. So one, no off. Officer who previously or currently works. This case can say that anything in my book is falsified. It's all true. It's all based on the documents. The only other thing they can say is, but you don't have all the information and so I say to you, yeah, that's the fucking point. So if you have all the information, why don't you fucking tell me what you have and will work together? And I'm not even talking about me. I'm talking in general about the family members of the victims and the other other people who have spent decades working this case emotionally and I'm talking about the communities. I'm talking about the the decades of children. I'm talking about the generations of people raising their kids in a certain way because because they were touched by these crimes, it's important recognized that serious crimes don't end with the prosecution of susp. 'Spect I wanna get into this for second, the effects of those crimes linger in the atmosphere. They linger in the lives of the loved ones of the victims in the lives of the community for generations man. And so in this instance, I was a member of that community, tens of thousands of others were members of that community. Those children of those tens of thousands are now a member of that community in the crimes. Linger linger linger for decades for decades for decades, multiple generations. So if you tell me but you don't have all the information that I say to you, give me the information prove that I'm thinking about this wrong. Tell me something that you know, tell me where I'm wrong, say something. They won't say anything because nobody's leading because this case was not meant to be solved because this. Case, this case is directly tied to some of the people who politically entrenched in that in that community and financially entrenched in that community..

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02:52 min | 3 years ago

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"This is what berry king did with his son Timothy on Wednesday, March sixteenth, nineteen, seventy seven, Tim king a straight a student. He's. A sixth grader. Adams, elementary school went out to play around on his skateboard it was chilly, but not freezing. Tim was small for his age at four foot three inches in only sixty three pounds, Tim, and his family lived in Birmingham, Michigan. This was a little bit nicer than the other towns that we've already discussed, but not rich by any means. Tim's father berry was a lawyer. And on this night he had to meet with a client since he needed a witness, he convinced Tim's mom to come with him. Tim has always been the responsible type. He even recently took on a paper route, but his parents were worried about him being out on his route. So Tim was spending the night at home with his brothers and his sister throughout the evening. They each got called away. His sister Kathy was getting ready to to leave when Tim asked to borrow thirty cents. So he could buy some candy. At the local pharmacy. She lent him the change and left to meet her friends. Tim ended up alone for the night at about eight fifteen pm wearing a red nylon shirt, dark green Levi, quarter, ROY, pants, and white sneakers, Tim headed out. And he arrived at the pharmacy on maple road at about eight thirty, Tim left the pharmacy through the rear door that led to the parking lot, which is where he would typically ride his skateboard Tim's parents were eating at the diner across the street. This is at Peabody's restaurant. After dinner, Tim's parents went home arriving around nine pm. They immediately contacted the police once they realized him was not home police suspected. This to be the act of the serial killer that they were looking for and they wasted no time searching for the boy and spreading his story. An intensive search was executed that covered the entire Detroit metropolitan area. And there was. Widespread media coverage in an emotional television appeal. Timothy's father berry king begged the abductor to release his son unharmed and a letter printed in the Detroit News. Tim's mother wrote this. She hoped Timothy would come home soon. So she could serve him his favourite meal, Kentucky Fried Chicken Atip came in from a woman claiming she had seen a boy with the skateboard talking to a man in the parking lot of the drugstore that Tim had been to the woman described the man as white with a dark complexion and around twenty five to thirty five years of age. He had shaggy hair and sideburns and.

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04:23 min | 3 years ago

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"Sixth nineteen seventy six at six thirty AM four days after her disappearance a motorist driving northbound in Troy Michigan, Saul her body on the I seventy five shoulder. He got on his CB radio in contacted the police. He reported this but was gone by the time that the police had arrived. The police arrived to find a girl who was shot in the face and killed at appeared. She was shot point blank. The police reported a halo of crimson around her head. Jill's body was placed in the snow, fully clothed with her backpack still on her. There was a light layer of snow on the body. This location was not shielded in any way. Anyone driving down the road could have witnessed this murder or the dumping of the body. And fact jill's body was. Within sight and sound of the Troy police station, no one at the police station heard or saw a thing, but there was a witness. The witness was driving his car on highway. I seventy five at three thirty in the morning when he spotted a nineteen seventy-one Pontiac lemoyne's idle ING on the highway shoulder. The witness slowed down and merged into the left lane. As he approached the Lamont's the lemoyne's slowly pulled onto the road. The witness was adamant to the police that it was in fact in nineteen seventy-one Lamont's because he had once owned the same vehicle similar vehicle, the witness offered up specific details regarding the vehicle. There were primer spots on the left side and a broken left tail light. Jill's body was transported to the morgue, and an autopsy was performed. She was fully clothed. She still had her backpack on the two books were missing. Her body was bathed in her nails were trimmed and clean. Jill had been quote, cared for and fed during the four days as she was missing. Joe was also placed where she was found not dumped or thrown. I think it's fair to say we have the right to question the last few items that we stated here. You know, we, we saw in the Mark stebbins instant one thing is reported in another thing actually happened regarding the body. Yeah, there's urine feces those clothes weren't wash. The cause of death was from a shotgun blast to her face while she was lying on her back. So she was killed where she was found. She had died the same way that she had feared that she would or at least what she told her mom in the psychiatrist go back to that. So you're, you're claiming that they're stating that she was killed where she. She was left. Yes. But as I witness that saw the car leaving the scene did not hear anything did not hear anything and also no other reports of hearing anything. Right. And like I said, the Troy police department is within an ear shot. Yes, shotgun blast. You're going to, there's going to be somebody reporting that will what makes them believe this. If nobody heard it, then there's no one to report it. I'm just saying, what other evidence did they have to make them think that the the actual death happened, where? Well, where the victim was, I had reported the crimin- the halo of crimson above her head. So that would be the the blood being blasted out of her. I mean, I can't put it. There's no nice way to put it. The blood being blasted out of her head as she was shot in the in the in the face with the shaggy, the crown of her. I was going to leave this out of the story, but. Since pushed for an explanation. The top of her head was located there as well. Did they do autopsy to find out if she there was struggling at all. Look, it's the report is the same as with Mark and what we will see with the other two victims as well. The public, the public reports of these are not the actual findings, not the actual police findings and all of these situations we're going to be told..

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04:13 min | 3 years ago

"oakland county" Discussed on True Crime Garage

"We're back tears mates. Cheers, captain on Wednesday, December twenty. Second nineteen seventy six twelve year old, sixth grader, Jill Robinson, and her mom agreed on one thing that they had had enough of each other. They lived in Royal Oak another town like Southfield and Ferndale. This is about ten minutes from where Mark stebbins body was found gills. Dan, Tom had divorced the mother a few years earlier. She had a long day already, and now she was rushing to get dinner on the table before going to church Joe's. Mom asked Jill to make biscuits for dinner and Jill was known as being a smart and stubborn girl. She was having a bad day too. So Wednesdays are supposed to be the days that Jill would spend with her father. He would get her after school and they would have the evening together. Well, Tom failed to get Jill on this Wednesday. No surprise surprise. And now she is. Stuck with her mom and sister for the night. Not exactly what she wanted. She was also not sleeping well lately because she was having this reoccurring nightmare. This nightmare was so concerning to Carol that Joe was seeing a psychiatrist to help help or through this problem dream about the nightmare that she was having sh. I don't know exactly what the nightmare was, but she stating that it caused Jill to have fear that someone was going to shoot her to death, and she would be shot at some point in her life. Joe refused to help with the dinner and an argument started between the two Carol was at her breaking point. And she looked at her daughter and she shouted get out which was heard loud and clear. Joe grabbed her denim backpack and she was going to take off. She filled, she filled the backpack with their hairbrush, a blue and green plaid blanket. It some makeup some underwear into books, not. So she's going to go live out on her own. Not exactly. The first book is a first edition little house on the prairie book. This one had an inscription from a family member that gave it to her as a gift. The second book she checked out of the library which was a Nancy drew mystery. These books are very important clues. Now, Jill before leavings going to put on winter clothes. It was below freezing outside. And as she was leaving, she told her younger sister that she was going to their father's house. She slammed the door behind her. Now her father's home is approximately six miles away. So she grabbed her bike, she loved her bike. It was a high speed brand, twenty inch frame purple with chrome fenders. It had a white banana seat. Sounds like your bike. She hopped on her bike and she was gone. Gills mom waited an hour and went outside to look for. Or her. Carol thought that she would find Jill sitting out front of their house, ready to apologize. But when she got out there, there was no sign of Jill. So Carol called Tom gills father. And when he told her that she wasn't there and he had not seen her Carol called the police and reported her missing. The police began searching, they checked if she had stopped at any stores and they interviewed a bunch of people. Joe was seen by a family friend at about seven thirty pm near the tiny, Tim hobby center that in find anyone who saw her after this. Nothing. The police found nothing else until the next day. This is when the police found her bike in the one sixty block of Washington street, it was leaning against a tree. The police started searching the neighborhood when a local teenager came up to them and inform them that they had found the. Bike, he and his friends somewhere else, and they had been out joy, writing it through the area before leaving it at the tree. So the police went to fifteen twenty three north main street. This is where the boy said that they had originally found the bike..

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"oakland county" Discussed on True Crime Garage

True Crime Garage

04:37 min | 3 years ago

"oakland county" Discussed on True Crime Garage

"Yeah. Would the killer have been aware of this? Did he place Mark there, knowing that it would involve another police department. So the Southfield police arrived to find. Mark, the scene was like no. Other upon the first review of Mark, there were several things that jumped out at officers. Mark appeared to be clean. Mark was wearing the clothes he had on the day. He disappeared. His jacket was zipped up, and his hood was pulled over his head, the Southfield police radioed in the information that they had found the boy's body. This quickly got back to Ferndale police, and they realized that they're missing persons case just became a murder investigation. The Ferndale police showed up at the office building and started to process the scene. This is hard to believe knowing today's practices, but remember we have two different police departments working this one crime scene while remember it's the late seventies. I mean, doctors USA smoke in the hospital. Well, an in this area to captain. Neither of these police jurisdictions, neither these departments had much experience in murder cases. So rather than processed the scene, believe it or not, the Southfield police removed Mark's body. This is just wrong, of course, but they take the body to the police station, not to the more to the police station, then they decide to remove marks close at the police station. Then after sending the body to the morgue, they go back and processed the scene back at the dumpsite. They decide to involve a local psychiatrist. This is Bruce dantonio. He was brought to the scene to create a profile of this killer, but he had a better idea or at least a better idea that he thought to him. Yes. So he suggested that they place a life-size child mannequin wearing similar clothes Mark in the same spot. So let's stop here and review, shall we? Well, first of all, what the hell does after do with pro fine. The perpetrator. Well, he's brought into profile, and I think what he thought was, let's see if we can get the killer to return. To the scene and we'll just arrest him on the spot and I, we won't need to come up with any profile. So I know that this whole thing sounds like a very weird technique, but it's not unique is not a unique technique. So let me just see if I'm here near, right. Okay. So the idea from this doctor, so we're gonna take this mannequin. We're place him and similar clothes or the same clothes, similar clothes, similar clothes, and we're gonna put him in the similar position and kind of out in the open. We know that sometimes killers will go back to where they don't victims to see as the victim in found yet. So their ideas that the the suspect will come back and when he comes back will rest him on the spot. Correct. Okay. And like I said, I, it sounds weird, but it's not a technique that was unique. And I mean that for the time period, I don't know that they would do something like this today, or I can't find anything recent where they did something like this today, but we know that in the Michigan murders in the case, it's often referred to as the Michigan murders. They used this technique. They've used it in the green river killer case as well as the Atlanta child murders right now question, would you sign up for this special duty? 'cause as what they call it that have special duty where police officers would have to wait in their vehicle somewhere looking for the suspect to return, of course, of course. So like in the you get the donuts, I'll get the coffee, but here's the reason. Why think that he decided to do this? Or at least jested it was because the Michigan murders took place in nineteen sixty seven through nineteen sixty nine. And that was when Ann Arbor brought in a man named Peter, her coz to assist he had he had assisted in the Boston strangler case. So they brought this dude in and say, look, we got a serial killer and we need to try some things to try to figure out who this guy is. Now. I don't recall for certain whose idea was, but it was likely her says idea that they employed this technique in the Michigan murders the idea as you said that the killer would return to the bodies. I'm guessing by guests here captain and I would be willing to wager a hundred dollar Bill Bill and six pack of beer..

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"oakland county" Discussed on True Crime Garage

True Crime Garage

04:20 min | 3 years ago

"oakland county" Discussed on True Crime Garage

"Suburb community emerged as a place for families to raise children during the baby boom era with its elementary schools, downtown city parks, active churches and civic groups. It was a small town just like the other towns where these victims lived peacefully up until the day that they were taking. Mark was born September thirteenth nineteen sixty three. Now in nineteen seventy six. Mark was a seventh grader at Lincoln junior high. He lived with his mother. After his parents split up when he was just five years old besides his mother, Mark lived with his older brother. Michael, Mark was an average twelve year old boy and just about every way he was four foot, eight inches tall weighed about one hundred pounds, but life was about to change for everyone in Oakland County. Yeah, this Sunday, February fifteenth, nineteen seventy six. This would turn out to be a rainy day, but it was quite warm for the season marks. Mother. Ruth wanted to attend a work party at the American Legion hall. So Mark, his brother, Michael Ruth, and her boyfriend drove the three blocks to the hall when they arrived. There was a pool tournament in progress, but watching adults drink and play pool only entertains a twelve year old boy for so long. So Mark before the party was over, asked his mother. If he could head home, he wanted to go home and watch television. His mom was hesitant, but she did allow Mark to leave alone. On Mark than asked her for a quarter. So he could buy some ice cream at the store next door to the American Legion. His mom reminded him that he had just received his allowance and said, no. Now his brother offered to go along with him. But Mark, he was twelve and he said he would be fine by himself at twelve twenty five PM Mark stebbins walked out of the hall alone sometime in the seven PM hour. Ruth tried to call Mark home, but there was no answer. This did not raise any alarms and probably shouldn't have, but she she's not worried and she continued to enjoy the party at nine o'clock. She returned to an empty house. Now this put her on edge a bit, but she figured she would wait one more hour to see if Mark would come home. He did not an ten o'clock, Ruth called the police reported him as missing the police responded to the Stephens house not expecting anything more than a run away. Or a kid who lost track of time the police informed her. We haven't had any kidnappings in Ferndale in ten years, but nonetheless the search for the twelve year old boy began. They searched abandoned buildings and other stops popular with the kids, but nothing turned up and he never came back and then the hours turned today's, the walk from the American Legion to Mark's house was only three blocks. What could he have encountered on such a short walk home? Fortunately, four days later they're going to find his body. Yeah, this is on Thursday, February nineteenth at approximately eleven forty AM when a man is out picking up lunch from the Fairfax plaza office building, he spotted a body lying on a pile of leaves near the buildings dumpster. The man found Mark stebbins body curled on a snow Bank. In the fetal position, it appeared that the body was placed there gently. The odd thing here captain. This is not a secluded. Okay. Shen it is in was an active office building with people coming and going all day long. Right? So the perpetrator could have been seen by anybody? Yeah. This killer was bold enough to remove Mark from whatever kind of vehicle he was driving and placed the body in a location where he the killer could have been easily spotted or leased his vehicle seen by somebody on the extra time that he's going to be taking to place the body in a certain position. This spot is only two and a half miles for Mark's house. But even in that short distance, we have a different police jurisdiction. So the victim Mark lived in Ferndale, but his body was found in Southfield, this is another town in Oakland County, and one has to wonder of this done on purpose..

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The right plate might nudge kids to eat more veggies

Programming

04:01 min | 3 years ago

The right plate might nudge kids to eat more veggies

"You what her name is right now and we've got to win I it will be a. Female Well I can't tell you what her name is speculation. Is that it is the McComb county public works, Commissioner Candace Miller speaking WJR news Candace Miller said she had no comment Paul manafort's longtime deputy as testified today against him in federal court, Jerry Bolander was there in. A matter of fact voice Rick gates testified that he and Manafort committed, crimes together gates who is the. Prosecution star witness and has pleaded guilty to two felonies testified that it manafort's direction he didn't report the company's control over multiple foreign. Bank accounts in Cyprus the Grenadines and the United Kingdom. He, also, testified, that, he helped Manafort falsify, tax returns and gates admitted taking what he described as several hundred. Thousand dollars for Manafort. That, wasn't authorized Jerry bowed Lander at the federal. Courthouse Alexandria Virginia Kentucky Republican Senator Paul rand Iran Paul, rather is in Russia where he, held meetings with the rush In parliament members in Moscow correspondent Frederik play Chen says Paul was asked to help out, alleged Russian, spy Maria patina currently there. Was some Russian lawmakers who asked him whether or not he could ask. For, Maria Boutin of course the Russian gun lobbyists. Who has since been accused of being a spy for the, Russians. In the US whether, she. Could be released and sent back. To rutta whether he could help with that it's unclear if any. Sort of arrangements are being made their WJR news, time seven oh four millions of federal dollars are on their way back to Michigan to repair one of the worst roads in the state, one hundred million dollars is. On the way from Washington finally fixed Mound Road mccone county executive Mark, Hackell says the big job will. Start in a couple of years because the current repair be something scholas- into the future this reconstruction of that roadway with this infra. Grant funds that we have is going to take us. You, know, thirty, or, forty years out so, we're gonna be tearing it up putting putting that new roadway inn I'll be starting in twenty twenty twenty, twenty one the new project will include a new, roadway pedestrian. Overpasses, and will be wired and ready for autonomous vehicles you could call it mound on the rebound. In Warren, Ken Rogulski WJR news if you're having a tough time getting your young kids to eat their veggies a, new dish could help researchers from the university of Colorado, found that giving children's segmented plates. With pictures of recommended foods in each of those compartments lead kids to eat. More, vegetables the. Ideal ages to try this are with kids four to eight on days when kids use the segmented plates they serve. Themselves nearly fourteen grams more veggies per day on average and, eight about seven and a half. Grams more than, on days when they use normal white plates that's about an additional baby carrot or two per day a small. Increase but researchers say even this little change can help create better eating habits for kids as they, get older, I'm John Stolnis WJR news. Time seven oh five we're gonna head out to the roads with Tracy Thanks Marie and good evening Detroit and Oakland County eastbound. I sixty Ninety-six after. Hoover road you still have minor, delays from crash on the right shoulder southbound. I seventy five after I six ninety six the right shoulder affected from an accident there in also on I seventy five southbound this time after Dixie highway the right shoulder black from, a crash there I'm Tracy racks WJR traffic first on the fives from the. WJR weather center better than average, storm chances around the motor city all week long with the chance for thunderstorms right on through Friday scattered storms tonight seventy degrees some heavy weather tomorrow some gusty downpours. Small hell possible tomorrow Eighty-three and then more afternoon storms, Wednesday temps in. The low eighties, from the Weather Channel I'm meteorologist Scott Lawrimore loose talk seven sixty WJR seventy five degrees. Right now I'm Marie Osborne WJR news. The next. Update it's at eight o'clock or whenever news breaks The following is presented.

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IT giant Cisco to buy Ann Arbor's Duo Security for $2.35B

Sean Hannity

00:29 sec | 3 years ago

IT giant Cisco to buy Ann Arbor's Duo Security for $2.35B

"To you by, positive coaching alliance Silicon Valley tech giant Cisco is announcing plans to. Acquire Ann Arbor based duo security the privately held security startup is known for its multi. Factor authentication method under the, agreement Cisco will pay two point three billion dollars. In cash and assumed equity awards data showing the number of crashes involving distracted driving in Oakland County is. Being reported for the first time statistics are backing up the claims of how important it is to keep your eyes on the. Road at hands on the wheel the reports are providing a..

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Former Fiat-Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne dies at 66

Paul W. Smith

04:41 min | 3 years ago

Former Fiat-Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne dies at 66

"Day that Fiat Chrysler reports quarterly earnings, but that news is overshadowed by the death of the man who saved both companies. Sergio Marchi own an accountant and lawyer who became an auto execs. Who save both Fiat Chrysler has, died he was sixty six the holding company of the family which controls Fiat. In Italy says in a statement unfortunately what. We feared has come to pass Sergio Marchi owned man and friend is. Gone he was. Known for his workaholic. Lifestyle sweaters and. Chain smoking Marsh was named Fiat's chief executive in twenty four after he, was appointed to the board, of that failing. Italian automaker he had worked primarily in. Finance but he rescued Chrysler, from the, brink of liquidation in twenty nine and worked to, deal with the US and Canadian governments to wipe out debt he discussed. The merger in this twenty fifteen interview. With Paul W, Smith and creating monsters, of unmanageable size and proportions I. Think the Fiat Chrysler merger is a classic example of how something can be achieved, transnational not saying that we couldn't have done better than we've done but you've done. Very well I think we've done all right in terms of estate Publishing links across the, globe organization and starting to get the benefits of the coal management of the industrial reality. That we face globally, and then took advantage of the changing tide in the auto market in the US. Which, has seen customers turn to SUV's and. Light trucks marshawn recognize that here's company had. One of the iconic brands Jeep and he wrote Jeep and ram trucks to bankroll the rest of the company. He appointed Michael Manley as they head of Jeep and ram now. Manley has replaced Marcio Marcio was, scheduled to retire in April of next year he was hospitalized in late June for shoulder surgery and what was expected at least publicly to be. A short stay but the surgery was for cancer he suffered a stroke as a result of the surgery and never. Recovered marshy owner and college degrees in Toronto where his family moved from Italy when he. Was, a teenager and at the university of Windsor he later earned, a law degree from York. University the chairman of fiancee's in a statement this morning Says I believe that the best way to honor here's memory is to build on the legacy he left us. Continuing to develop a human values of responsibility and, openness of which he was the most ardent champion Today is. Scheduled, to be the last day of closing arguments in the involuntary manslaughter trial for Michigan health director Nick Lyon in connection with a legion. Airs outbreak which was right about the same time of the Flint water emergency an our man who robbed. A subway restaurant in Oakland County over the weekend has struck again this time in independence township five Lansing women are scheduled to be sentenced today for. Running up illegal operation out. Of a shopping center in, Lansing, they turn the Logan square shopping center according to. The authorities into their own. Private casino responded to a tip and rated the building last July inside they found sixty gambling. Machines fifty one year old lead dang but guilty to. Charge, of conducting a gambling operation the charges a. Tenure felony the other. Four women pled guilty, to misdemeanor charges Thirty-seven-year-old alma shepherd and fifty nine or Krysta Albert could be sentenced up. To two years in prison Twenty-three your angel choke lesson thirty four year old Cynthia Snyder are facing one year sentences All. Are scheduled to be sentenced today in income County Circuit Court gene Fogel WJR news Canada authorities in Toronto now confirm they're investigating possible, terrorism links by the gunman who went on a, shooting spree several days ago in Toronto's greektown area the Danforth. A, former Dearborn man is due in Detroit federal court today to face terrorism charges he was arrested in Syria WJR news time seven zero. Four here's Nick Roddy sports thank you take the Tigers lost the royals five four on Tuesday night the. Final game of that series will be this afternoon with Matt Boyd facing Danny Duffy the New York Yankees have acquired former all star relief pitcher Zach. Britton from the Baltimore Orioles. For three minor leaguers lions, veterans, report to Allen park tomorrow I start of training. Camp that starts on Friday. But defensive end Ziggy Ansah will not be on the field the team is placed on the. Physically unable to perform list he underwent knee surgery earlier. This, spring they also placed rookie fullback Nick Baden. On injured reserve the tornado c. l. And Atlanta Falcons wide receiver Julio Jones will not report. To camp tomorrow because he wants his contract reworked, Jones has three years left on his current deal I'm Nick. Roddy WJR sports traffic and weather first on the fives up. Next this internet provider promise a lot, let's hear who really delivers,.

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Starbucks closes 8,000 stores for anti-bias training

Frank Beckmann

02:09 min | 3 years ago

Starbucks closes 8,000 stores for anti-bias training

"The flowing lava on hawaii the big island the rolette endless eruption about killer whale continues to take its toll he gamble and maybe they didn't win steve gebbie is one of an estimated two thousand people who had to evacuate of the twenty four fishers that have opened up since the eruption began on may third several are still spewing and using lava changing the landscape forever more than twenty four hundred acres have been consumed by the two thousand degree liquid rock so far as also destroyed dozens of homes and there's still no end in sight that's correspondent jim rupe four people shot and wounded on detroit's greektown pre are in critical condition before victims males in their twenties police say they got into a fight and then the shooting occurred the second shooting in greek town in the last three days a seventeen year old was stabbed and robbed in bloomfield township on ward road this victim was riding a bike last evening northbound on ward police say that he was about to ride past the robber who stepped in front of the bike demanded the victims bike wallet and backpack at knife point and then stabbed the victim in the abdomen and threatened to kill him the stabber is described as a black male in his mid twenties about six three he wore a white hoodie the victim is recovering on the oakland county lakes of vigil was held for a sixteen year old boy who who drowned unclear lake in oxford township county sheriff's office says ten people suffered minor burns in a boat fire on lake orion kresge foundation says it'll give one point five billion dollars in grants for eighteen new projects to improve the neighborhood of the grants are part of a six million dollar program called kresge innovative projects detroit empty lots in virginia park will be transformed into a new park retail space will be created by this money in southwest detroit the projects were picked from one hundred seventy eight different applications from people in groups living in the city of detroit starbucks will close more than eight thousand stores this afternoon they'll conduct anti bias training what will this be the employees will also be watching a film by the award winning documentarian stanley nelson who has done films on the african american experience on racial bias in the past and in.

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"oakland county" Discussed on WJR 760

WJR 760

01:59 min | 3 years ago

"oakland county" Discussed on WJR 760

"Same clothes they were wearing when they disappeared but killer didn't leave them much to work with potentially crucial evidence was mishandled by police for example one of the first suspects christopher bush a convicted pedophile killed himself in late 1970s seven police discovered a rope and other items that could have been linked to violence but his death was ruled a suicide and police ignored bush until some years later when they resumed the investigation into bushes connections with pedophile rings dna testing was now available but the items were missing if bush was the killer prime evidence was lost berry king the father of tim king tells me that he considers bush his prime suspect king thinks that instead of suicide bush may have been murdered what i find out that christopher voiceless fourtimes convicted of that a file activity and never spent a day in jail and was a son of general motors vice president say to myself welt was there a relationship between oakland county politicians and mr bush was mr bush a major contributor to the bullet politicians in oakland county arthur ed for thirty years the four communities were these kids were kidnapped and the four communities where their bodies were found never exchanged ever evidence the oakland county sheriff's department was part of the the investigation the sheriff former detroit police commissioner yohannan sprain surprised and angered other officials when he told me at the time that he thought the investigation was bungled christopher bush wasn't the only suspect over the years several other man all pedophile were considered persons of interest berry king thinks someone is still alive who knows the identity of the killer or who may have helped in the kidnappings and murders there's got to be information out there some place for thirty years i always thought it was one guy because i thought up to be or invalid taught state police declined to be interviewed for this story they say they considered the.

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