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A highlight from A Dame Trade Deep Dive With Ben Thompson, Plus Seth Meyers and Million-Dollar Picks
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We did the big chill. It was very, very exciting. I have Kyle Brandt coming on Monday's podcast. I'm just gonna tell you the movie now because it is gonna be the best moment of your weekend if you spent two hours watching this classic. We're doing Toy Soldiers. It really brings everything possible to the table. So if you wanna watch it ahead of time, there it is. That podcast is going up Monday night. If you wanna hear stuff about the debate, we have Tara Paul and Mary's podcast, Somebody's Gotta Win. That reacted to it as well as the press box with Brian Curtis and David Shoemaker. So there you go. Our debate coverage has been on point. Also, higher learning. Van and Rachel had Larry Elder on this weekend. It made a lot of noise, man. That podcast is great. I hope you check that out as well. Hope you're checking out theringer .com. And on this podcast, gonna talk about the dame trade at the top. We're gonna bring in Ben Thompson from the Techery newsletter, which he's been on this podcast I think four weeks ago. And he's a huge Bucks fan. He's gonna give the Bucks fan side of things. We're gonna do million dollar picks. And then old friend Seth Meyers talking about a whole bunch of stuff. So really good podcast. It's all next. First, our friends from Pro Jam. What's up? All right, I'm taping this on Thursday afternoon. Normally when there's a big MBA trade, I always do the emergency trade reaction right after the podcast. But we just put up a podcast on Tuesday. So I decided to play it a little differently this time. I wanted a little distance, I wanted to listen to stuff, read stuff, and try to form some big picture opinions coming out of this. So I have four smaller ones, then one big one. First one, I thought Portland did an incredible job with this trade. I really liked this trade, especially everyone was trying to bully them in June and July about, oh, you got to take Miami's offer. You just got to. It's where he wants to go. It's the only offer you're going to get. And guess what? They waited. They played it perfectly. They stared Miami down, and they got a much better deal. First of all, they get the Drew Holiday piece that they can flip into a bunch out of their stuff, which we'll talk about in one second. I love the DeAndre Ayton gamble. As you know, on this podcast, I am a big DeAndre Ayton guy. Not in the sense of I'm the biggest fan of his in the world, but I'm a fan of the asset. I just think I love the valued assets, no matter what it is. Whatever market we're talking about, DeAndre Ayton, 18 and 10 for his career, 60 % field goals percentage, 25 years old. He's played in 45 playoff games. He played four rounds in the 2021 finals. Last year, he got his ass kicked by Jokic. Oh, sorry. Like, that never happens. And Phoenix just sold on him, which I can't wait to talk about. But just from a Portland standpoint, they not only get Ayton in whatever they get for holiday, they get the 29 first, they get the two swaps, and they dump Nurkic. Nurkic hasn't had a healthy start to finish all the way through the playoffs here since 2018, which I'm positive was a long time ago. He's basically 12 and 8. He's, you know, a 50 % shooter. I made a list of the top 30 centers. I encourage you to do this at home, because what's more fun than making lists of NBA centers? I can't imagine anything. I made a list of who I thought were the best assets of the center position for talent, contract, everything. He was 29th on my list. The only person I had ahead of him who's technically a starter, unless you start talking about the Detroit or Charlotte guys, was Zubats on the Clippers. I thought he was the 29th best center asset in the league. And Phoenix, you know, just quickly to go to them, they're trying to win this year. They got worse. They turned Ayton's money into Nurkic and Grayson Allen and Nasir Little. Grayson Allen, we already know with him, he can't play in playoff series. We saw him 22. We saw it last year. I heard and read in some places like that, I got two rotation players. Did they? Is Nurkic a playoff rotation player? Is Grayson Allen a playoff rotation player? Because I'm positive he's not. So for the same money that they were spending on Ayton, they got three guys that I don't think are going to help them. In 25, the money comes down a little bit to 23 million just for Nurkic and Little, which is 7 million less than Ayton. And then in 26, that money goes up to 25 .5. But I don't understand what Phoenix was doing. Why not wait to see if Ayton clicks with Vogel? Vogel has such a good history with centers. He rejuvenated Dwight Howard on the 2020 Lakers. He basically created Roy Hibbert's career in 2013 with the defense verticality thing. I thought he was going to do a good job with Ayton. I'm stunned that they gave up on him. I'm almost waiting for one of those, now they tell us stories when, you know, that's where Brian Curtis calls them, where like a week after something happens, there's this kind of notebook dump where it's like, here's seven terrible DeAndre Ayton stories. So maybe that'll happen. But for Phoenix just to be like, cool, we locked this down, man. We got Nurkic. You're trying to win the title. You have KD and Booker and Beal. And like, what are you guys doing? Anyway, from Portland's standpoint, I love the Ayton thing. I love that they didn't get bullied. And I know they're going to turn Drew Holliday into something. So this to me was at least an A minus for them, for where they were two months ago, where Dave's like, I want to go to Miami. That's it. And if you don't trade me there, that's kind of fucked up. And they made this work as it got reported that, uh, I think in the athletic, that he expanded his list to Brooklyn and to Milwaukee in the last two weeks. And that's what Portland was waiting on. You know, they were banking on the fact that he's a competitive dude. He's one of the best 75 pairs ever. He wanted a situation settled. So, you know, you wait, you wait, you wait, they expand the list and then you go. Uh, there's a Drew Holliday piece to this. That's awesome. He becomes a contender prize. I wouldn't call this a Drew Holliday sweepstakes. I reserved sweepstakes for the superstars, but it's a mini sweepstakes. This is somebody that could have a huge impact on the playoff race. You know, not only the usual suspects, everybody's talking about Boston, ironically, Miami is a really good fit for him. And in some ways, um, I'm a little more scared of them with Miami than Dame in some ways, especially at a much cheaper contract with giving up less and keeping some of their assets. Philly, if they could pull it off, they have to be in there in Golden State, Minnesota. I think I have to mention Sacramento, I think is a team that if they could figure out how to get Drew without giving up their core, which is basically Keegan Murray and Sabonis and Fox, like that's, you know, could Davion Mitchell be in that trade with some, with a salary and some picks, who knows. The team that I love for Drew Holliday is OKC. I have OKC, you know, I started doing my MBA research for the over -under spot and I haven't landed on a number for them yet, but to me, they feel like a high forties team with Chet and with the growth of their young guys. And if you just like, let's say they traded Lou Dort and a bunch of their picks, maybe two firsts and two of their lesser picks or three firsts and a second, whatever it is. And they just say, fuck it. And they get Drew and you put him with Giddy and SGA and Jalen fucking awesome Williams and Chet Holmgren and all these other dudes they have, that might be a top three team in the West. I mean, that, that's starting to give me some early 2010s OKC vibes. So where he goes is going to be important. I just feel like there was so much Drew Holliday slander the last couple of days. You know, he's one of my favorite players. Even Haralabob, who was the chairman of the board of the Drew Holliday fan club for years and would have the benefit dinners there and, you know, just did a lot of yeoman's work on that front. And even he was like, yeah, yeah, Dame's better than Drew. That trade makes sense for Milwaukee. I was hurt, Haralabob. I was 100 % hurt by that. But you know, Drew got his ass kicked by Jimmy Butler in the playoffs last year. I get it. It happens. Jimmy was unbelievable. I feel like he would have kicked anybody's ass. By the way, why is Drew Holliday guarding Jimmy Butler? That speaks more to some of the issues with Milwaukee. He was never supposed to be a point guard and a creator. I think he was always better as an off -the -ball guy. We saw that with Rondo and New Orleans and just in general. I want to see him with a point guard. I want to see him just being unleashed, not having the ball a lot, just worrying about hitting threes, being an occasional, you know, make -shit -happen guy and being like the third or fourth best guy on a team without having the offensive responsibility to have. All their half court issues got blamed on him for the last couple of years. And I get it. They weren't like an awesome half -court team, even the other one in the finals, but I really value that dude. I had him, even I did the trade value list in August and I had him 37th and I had Dame 23rd. I think he's one of the best 30 players in the league still. He's 33 years old, which, you know, I'm going to talk in a second about when guards hit their mid -30s, but just in general, I think he's a real asset. If he goes to a team like the Celtics and they can keep Derek White and Tatum and Brown in the center, it's like, look out, man. So little mini sweepstakes, rarely do we get the trade, but then we still get another asset to talk about. Thank you for everyone involved in the trade. And then the fourth small point is just that, you know, not rocket science, Milwaukee bought some Giannis time here. They have one of the best 20 players of all time. They were staring down the barrel of a situation that was not good. I was talking about it on this podcast in late June and early July. I thought he was going to put them on the clock. I thought Mark Lasry selling his stake was a really bad sign for all of this because that dude is smart. As I laid out in June, that guy is really smart. And if he's feeling like, you know what, it's time for me to sell my buck stock, that makes me nervous. And then all the stuff that Giannis said and did, which I thought he did really fairly and really smartly. And I think that dude's about titles and that's it. And I know we say that about players, but I think in his case, I don't think he cares about, you know, what's my legacy, how do I compare against Dirk DeWhisky, any of that stuff. I just think he wants more rings. I mean, think about the guys who have won two rings out of the best 35 guys on my list of my pyramid. Those are all guys in my top 35 that won multiple wings. You go to the one -ring side, Jerry West, Oscar, Moses, Dirk, Jokic, Giannis, Pettit, Garnett, Kawhi, Rick Barry. That's the list he's on now. I certainly don't think he's looking at that list going, I got to get away from these guys, but it's a slightly different list. I think when you win multiple rings in multiple situations, it elevates you in a certain way. I think he fundamentally understands that at least a little bit. I want to be the best player since LeBron James. I think that's a thing that he wants. How am I going to do that? I need more rings. I need more finals trips. He knew from last year and maybe even the Boston series that they just weren't good enough. Whether this trade is going to be the thing that propels them, we'll find out, but he's been in the league 10 years, two MVPs, five first teams, two second teams, and now we have this little two -year window. Kawhi and the Raptors was a one -year window. This is a two -year window, I feel like. With Giannis, he's got two years left in his deals. So does Lopez. Middleton has two in a player option. Dame's got two, and then this crazy $120 million player option extension thingy that he has that just keeps going and going. It's probably two years. There's a world where this could go terribly this season, at least for what the expectations are, and then maybe it becomes Kawhi, Raptors. Maybe Giannis is like, you know what? That didn't work. Trade me. And the Bucks, who have no picks left and no future, they look at it next summer, and they go, all right. We tried it. Giannis, what can we get for you? Dame, what can we get? And they just do a reboot, rehaul. Remember, they won in 2021, which just takes so much pressure out of this. It's so much different than the Clippers situation, where they went all in on Kawhi and Paul George. They give up all those picks and SGA, and they've gotten nothing out of it. They haven't even made the finals. So it's got to happen. I think they at least probably have to make the finals. If they get bounced in round two, do I think Giannis is going to stay because they made this Dame -Mower trade? Probably not. So that leads to the big question, is how good of a trade was this? So there's a big picture angle on Dame, and it's going to sound negative, but I really don't want it to sound negative because I think Dame, I voted for him for NBA Top 75. I think he's been one of the best guards in the last 15 years. I think there's a ton of great things you can say, and there's a chance that he goes to Milwaukee, and this thing is fucking awesome. I know any Celtic fan I've talked to, including Isaiah, who's helping produce this podcast today, the Giannis -Dame pick and roll is just terrifying. Other than Jokic and Murray, it's going to be the single most unstoppable offensive play in the league. It is. We are conceding that point. The spot Dame is in right now, big picture -wise, it's weird. He's a superstar, but he's not, and we've seen guys like this before. I judge superstars by, do you have the resume statistically, and is your team succeeding consistently at a certain level? You can't totally say that about Dame. He's never been on a 55 -win team. He's missed the playoffs completely four times in 11 years. He said three first -round exits. He made the Final Four once in 2019, which was really lucky because Golden State and Houston were the two best teams, and then they got smoked. He's never been on a true contender ever. Instinctively, you go, well, that's not his fault. Who's he played with? Well, he played with LaMarcus Aldridge and CJ McCollum and a couple other guys, but not really anybody. The reason I'm putting this up is there's a success element that he has not had yet that for somebody with his resume is actually kind of unusual. I went and I looked up how many guards in the history of the league averaged 22 points a game for their career and played at least 700 games. I thought the list would be like 20. I didn't know. I didn't know what I was walking into. Only I think 75 guys have averaged 22 a game. So I went and I looked up the list, and it was 10 guys, 700 games, 22 a game for their career. There were some guys who came close like David Thompson, who I think is one of the best guards I've seen in the last 45 years, but had a short career and had some drug issues. He didn't make it. He didn't play enough games. Pete Maravich, 24 .2 points a game, but he didn't play enough games. Kyrie hasn't played enough games yet. Bradley Beale is five games away. I'm actually kind of glad the cutoff's at 700 so we don't have to talk about him. And then Mitchell and Trey Young aren't there yet. There's only 10 guys that made it, and the 10 guys are all fucking awesome. And again, I mentioned this in the context of Dame, who we think he is versus the success he's had. So the 10 guys, Michael Jordan, 30 .1, Jerry West, 27 .1, Allen Averson, 26 .7, George Gervin, 26 .2, Oscar Robertson, 25 .7, Kobe, 25 .0, Harden, 24 .7, Curry, 24 .6, Wade, 22, barely made it, and Russ, 22 .4, and then Dame is at 25 again. All right, what does he not have that those other guys have? Well, MJ, don't need to talk about him. Don't need to talk about Jerry West, who's the freaking logo. Allen Averson, pretty good comparison, right? Big stats, really memorable player, but not a ton of success. Here's the difference. Averson made the finals once. He won an MVP. Dame has done neither of those things. George Gervin was the best scoring guard of the 70s. He made two final fours. He had some bad luck. He really, in 79, really should have came close. And some of it's on him, right? He could have come through. Bobby Dandridge is the one that ended up coming through for the Bullets. They lose. But two final fours, he had four top five MVP finishes, five first teams, four second teams. He was just unassailably the best guard in the league until MJ. Oscar Robertson, don't need to go through him, but he won a ring and an MVP. Kobe, five rings and an MVP. Eleven first teams for Kobe, by the way. James Harden, three final fours, an MVP, six top five MVP finishes, six first team MBAs. And even though Harden has never made the finals as the best guy, he made it with OKC as the sixth man, you could build a contender around Harden. We saw it. We haven't really seen it with Dame. I think that's a fair thing to bring up. Curry, four rings, two MVPs, you know, the Curry thing. Dwayne Wade, three rings, two top five MVPs, two first teams, three second teams. He's more in the Dame waters a little bit, but he had the 2006 finals and he was the second best guy with LeBron on those heat teams. And then Westbrook, who you would say, well, Dame had a better career than Westbrook. Did he? Westbrook made the finals in 2012. He was second best guy on that team. Almost made the finals in 2016. He won an MVP. He had two first teams and five second teams. It's at least like a real argument. And I think when you look at Dame, he only had that one 2019 round three, got bounced. He's only had one top five MVP finish. He's only had one first team MBA and four second team MBAs. Really, really good top 75 career. But the piece that's missing is, have you been on a really good team? Have you made a real run at it? Which is why, you know, I think this Milwaukee trade is so much fun. This is his real chance. I get nervous about a couple things with this trade. One is that, you know, if you look at the 33 and older guards who average 22 points a game in a season. Jordan did it twice. Curry did it twice. Still going. Kobe did it three times. Jerry West twice. Sam Jones once. Hal Greer once. That's the entire list. Now the NBA is different. We have more three -pointers now. It's easier to score. Scoring is the easiest it's ever been. Guys can play at a longer age. So I'm not ruling out Dane being good for the next three years. But just pointing out, history is saying, be a little nervous. In general with guards, like Chris Paul, we saw from age 35 to 36 to 37, like it just dropped. But that's two years older than Dane. Maybe it's fine. I just worry about guards. We have not a lot of instances with guards in their mid -30s of them either peaking as players or being able to sustain whatever success they had during their prime. It always starts to go down with really no exceptions, except for Steph Curry. He's the only non -exception. So if your case is Dane's as good as Steph Curry, or Dane can be as potent as Steph Curry on a winning team, like, you know, Steph Curry is better than Dane, but I'm not going to argue that he couldn't do a lot of the stuff that Curry did in Golden State. The bigger issue for me, the age I'm definitely worried about. Dane has not been healthy the last couple of years, and we have not seen him play nine straight months at playoff basketball with a big bullseye on his back. Everybody coming after you, you're the best team. We haven't seen him do that ever, much less than the last couple of seasons. So can he stay up? Can he stay healthy? That's one thing. The defense with Dane just got kind of swept under the rug the last couple days, and I don't really understand it because there's five categories of defensive player I feel like. There's excellent, there's good, there's average, there's not so good, and then there's bad. And I think Dane's a bad defender. I think the stats back it up. Like, his defensive rating last year was 245 out of the guards. He's the 245th guard for defensive rating. You know, 117 .4 individual defensive rating is 483 overall. Portland's team's always defensively, it was the Achilles heel for them. Partly because of Dane, because he couldn't guard anybody. He's too small. And, you know, think about what we saw from the playoffs the last couple years. I think about the 2020 bubble Celtics playoffs, not infrequently, because I think that team had a chance to potentially win a title. What happened? Everyone hunted Kemba Walker. It was hunting season. It's like, where is he? Got to get a switch. Got to get Kemba Walker guarding somebody who's bigger, or got to beat him off the dribble, and it just became a hunt session with him. And basically, he got played out of the league. He's not in the league anymore. You know, we had this with Isaiah Thomas, too, in the mid -2010s. I think it's been an issue with Kyrie Irving. The Celtics certainly went at him in the playoff series with Brooklyn a couple years ago. Curry, you saw, who I think is a better defender than people give him credit for, but the And he's a much better defender than Dame is. Jordan Poole is somebody that got hunted in playoff series recently. Chris Paul, obviously, is a big one. Jalen Brunson, remember what the Heat did to him? Mitchell, when he was on Utah, this was a huge issue. And then Trae Young, obviously. My fear with Dame is he's a DH, and I think in Portland, part of the reasons he was able to put up the stats he did was because he wasn't playing defense, right? It was just, how many points can I score? My team isn't very good, and I'm just going to do my thing. He's an incredible offensive player. But how much of a trade -off is the defense, right? Well, you think, all right, well, Milwaukee, they're really good defensively. They'll be able to protect him. Here's the team. Giannis, Dame, Lopez, Portis, Middleton, Conaton, Beauchamp, Crowder. Who's guarding Trae Young on this team? Who's guarding Jason Tatum? Here's a partial list of guys that I don't think this team will be able to guard this season. Devin Booker, Tatum, Butler, Trae Young, Kyrie, Curry. Who's going to be chasing Curry around the screens? Dame lowered? Good luck. SGA, Luca, Mitchell, Murray, Edwards, Brunson, Ja, Garland, Fox, Halburn. Are they going to be able to cover Derek White? I don't know. The way this team is constructed, they are not going to have the ability to guard other guards at all, which means they're just going to have to be in a shooting match with them, right? It's going to be not much different than what's going to happen with Phoenix, where they're just literally going to have to outscore the other team. I've just watched too much playoff basketball over the last couple years, where it's like, if you have that weak link on defense, and you're playing a team that's smart enough, they're going to go after that weak link. Like, think about them against the Lakers, right? The Lakers figure their crunch time. Let's say they make the finals. It's Milwaukee and the Lakers, and Lakers crunch time. They're going to have LeBron and Davis and Austin Reeves and, I don't know, a shooter and a point guard, whatever. All they're going to be doing is trying to find where Dame is on the court and going after him. What about when they play Boston? Boston puts out White and Brogdon and Tatum and Brown and a center, and all they're going to be doing is trying to make sure Dame is covering somebody who has the ball who's now torturing him. I think it's a real problem for them. And what's funny is they gave up Drew's defense and, you know, they, what they gave up on defense, which is significant, and they gained an offense, it might end up just being a wash and they might just be a different version of the same team where they still have a huge flaw. It's just on the other end of the court. I'm just shocked that nobody brought up the defense. I agree he's an amazing offensive player and what's cool about this trade and what I'm excited about as a basketball fan is, can he go up a level? Right? A lot of these stats he put up, especially the last couple years. They didn't mean anything. They were, he was on bad teams. Like, who cares? Ultimately, Bradley Beal scored 30 points a game on the Wizards. Who cares? I think most really good offensive players, if they're on a bad team, can get between 25 and 30 a night. Can you do it nine months in a row? Can you do it when you're getting hunted on defense all over the place? How much can Milwaukee protect him? And what does he have in the tank at age 33 with 900 plus games on the O 'Dominor already? I'm still afraid of the Bucks, but people have, like, FanDuel had them as best odds in basketball and I think most people feel like they're the favorite now. I don't feel like there's a favorite. I think you can go through every team. Boston, I could, I'm scared of Porzingis. What's going to happen with Jalen Brown out there? He has contracts. Can Peyton Pritchard, all these different things. Philly, God only knows. Miami, they're unquestionably worse. Yeah, Milwaukee is going to be really good, but depending where Holiday lands and how this all plays out, I just think it's still wide open. And the other piece, so if you're just talking Boston, Miami, Tatum kills Milwaukee. I have no idea why. Boston is kind of built to at least stay with Dame and, you know, Derek White is about as good of a person you're going to have to try to keep Dame in check, at least. And Boston's done a really good job of guarding Giannis over the years. They don't have Grant Williams this year, but I just don't think, I think there's as many ways this goes wrong as it goes right, I guess would be my final thought on this because for what they gave up, especially with that 29 unprotected and the two swaps and, you know, they are all in on this team. And you know my theory, when you go all in on a team, you better think you can win. Not positive, but it's an awesome trade. It really is. It makes the league so much more fun. Dame and Giannis together. I'm going to enjoy watching Portland. I still have my eating stock. Watching Phoenix fans slowly realize that Derkiszna isn't the answer is going to be fun and then we'll see where Drew Holliday goes. So really fun trade. We're going to talk about it a little bit more with Die Hard Bucks fan, Ben Thompson in one second. Let's take a break.
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"JJ, man. I don't think you know how lucky that you know Jimmy. Good, that Celtics team was that beat us. Jimmy, what are you going to do? Stop Jimmy. What's going on? I keep seeing the comments. People at the top. That's it. I said, no, I set this off the top. I said, these are paper towels, everybody. This is like Costco level paper towels. I see the comments are like, oh my God. Just coming at me about toilet paper. You know. So Jimmy, this is definitely going to make it better. This definitely distracts everyone from the top. Let's go full screen to Jimmy here. Okay, here we go. What kind of toilet paper is this? Toilet. This is not toilet paper. This is paper towels. You guys saw you guys saw exactly what it is. I don't want to hear the comments. It looks like wrapping paper. Read the comments. Jimmy. Definitely do it. Yeah. They'll definitely do it. Yeah. Well, I want it out there. Now we have, I set it off the top because I knew that was going to be that was going to be the running joke. Someone said he tuned it again. Don't come. Listen. Everyone needs paper towels. You go through them like crazy. So it's good to have just by in bulk. Don't have to think about it for a couple months, and you're good to go. I like Jimmy's fart now to win probably go to the final four for sure now. I like exchanges right now. Looking good. Oh man, I just had to get that one on. I'm just trying to just look at the comments. Even though it's not that easy for you. I thought something happened. You do not want to flush toilet paper folks. We need a new paper towel. Charmin. Yeah, sorry. You don't want to flush paper towels. You do want to flush toilet paper. That's exactly it. We should yeah, anyways, moving on. David, Jimmy, what the heck are we talking about? I don't know, we're into something good..
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"It's great. I mean, but that's what we said is like, you've been dying for John's nervous 'cause Paul cam loom for Pritchard if he keeps up. It will happen. It looms. 75%. I think you guys are asking for it. I think you're asking for the wrong apology cam. It's the grant one you should be asking for. Because prichard, we've already. I think we've already apologized for that one already. Yeah, the prichard one I thought, this guy's the 11th, 12th player on your team, and now I think he's a 9 ten. I don't think he's, I love that he's hitting the shots. I still don't think he's like, I think. What do you think he's thinking? I think they look for every reason to play other people. He's the best they have now. He's making the most of the opportunity, but would it shock you in the off season if they went and got a guy or two, you know, who could do something else and who could shoot and who could play different positions and privileged minutes went back down? Like Pritchard flashed last year given opportunity during COVID times and other issues that necessitated him to play more Kemba missing every other game, other injuries to other people. He played. And he played fairly well, and it was so perplexing. Where did he go the beginning of this year? There's a reason why he's not playing regular minutes all the time. 'cause there's certain things about his game that like coaches don't have super confidence to put them in there for 25, 30 minutes a night against certain types of competition. So it wouldn't shock me if he could finish this season on a great stretch and then they bring in somebody else who eats into his minutes next year. I don't think that that would be stunning by any means. I don't think I'm wrong. I don't know what you guys think. I don't think you I don't think you're wrong..
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"This is pretty good. I like this one right here for the bench guys. Batman and rabbit. Nice. It's pretty good. He'd be Batman. I like that. The next time, next time the Celtics play the Joker again, you better hope that he brings it. If Joker goes off on him. I do love it though. You can ride this out. Told jaylen to do it, Jalen goes out there, Jalen's like, I have no idea why he wants me to call him this, but I'm all in. I think he knew it. I don't know. He was asked. He's like, why didn't you because nobody got it at first? And he was asked, why joke? Why Batman? And he's like, if he didn't know, but I don't know if I'd be like, no. If you didn't know when someone explained it to him, he probably immediately regret doing that endurance press conference. It must have been like, you should have got someone else to do it. Apparently, apparently Al called him that on the broadcast. I thought I saw that too. That's funny. That's great. Wow. I gotta hand it to him, man. What did a knife for Bobby to miss out? Because well, I'm sure it'll carry over Wednesday, but yeah, it just means right now. It's insane. It's insane, man. 5, three pointers. It's awesome. I was attacking too. You know what? It's getting comfortable. You got to give him credit because how many young guys this year got an opportunity and they didn't capitalize on it, right? Many of them. And Pritchard get his opportunity much at all, the first means literally didn't play. You know, to start the season and now he's got the opportunity because the players that were shipped out of town. And he's making the most of it. We all knew he could shoot. Just a matter of getting the playing time, get into that sort of groove, get into that rhythm. And man, he was on fire. What do you what was the number of 15 straight threes he hit before he missed one at some point tonight? It's like the opposite of white. Yeah. Yeah. Easy anti Derek white. That could hear was John in my head. When he just missed every open three he got today, like every single one. And the ball he made one. Yeah, he may want us to. My bad. My bad. I don't care. You know what? Yes, you do. He mixed it up 'cause he knew he had to. He's like, man, I got to flex my mid range game. And that's exactly what he did. You know, he got his groove in. You know, he found his offensive groove. He's got the floater game. He has other stuff. That's all you need. He just attack. He made, he made a series of like really good passes. He got into the lane and kicked it out to open shooters early. You know, quick decisive stuff. So he did plenty of good stuff. He got cooked by man a little bit there, but I mean, I think anybody on the planet would have that quarter. He wasn't missing anything, but he got cooked pretty good on a couple. He got his ankles broken on a three. But I loved how I liked the offensive stuff from white better today. Right when that happened, Perkins gave both quiet and then purchased goes that happens to the best of us. It's almost worse. It's old. I prefer the ooze and Oz over that. It's like, oh, don't do that to me, man..
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"I'm having a one on one with him and listen, I just finished up this book and there's a lot of fascinating stuff in this, whether it's, you know, the relationship you had with Larry Bird, how these guys didn't talk for decades, like it's really, really good stuff, so I'm gonna do a feature on max. Coming up this week. I'm really excited about it, so you can check out that. And of course, a brand new episode of central macro podcast, which I'm sure we'll get into the book a little bit, but you know max, max wants to tease it. He wants guys to go out there and get the book and I'm not giving you the whole thing. Does he should? He should. This is decades worth of memory that he's giving, you know? Like, he really took him a while putting this thing together because he wanted to put it together the way he won. You know, tell the story exactly the way he is supposed to be told. Get there in the bookstore and buy that thing. Because I saw it, and I thought it was mine, 'cause I'm so used to that. I'm always not yours. Is there like an audio version that we can buy? Do we have to read it? It is 2021. Jimmy doesn't read. Yeah, it's not that old school does not that I can't. It's just that I don't read. No, but Cedric Maxwell should consider reading his book and then selling the audio version, because people would probably be funny actually, because you know he would tell the really anime. Exactly. Yeah. We're putting max through the car wash this week too, so you're gonna see him on a lot of shows. By the way, sir, I was gonna ask, because you put on yours. No promote. Can you come on ours? He's coming on the garden report. Oh, hell yes. Very cool. Cool. His birthday is they put him on the jumbotron. I guess his birthday is in a couple of days. Yeah. Yeah. Which ones are you going? He's gonna be everywhere. We'll see, you'll see him a bunch. Bobby's ready for CNS media and he's got he's got a call and going tomorrow basketball notebook and Boston sports journal as well. Yes, Schroeder, smart, selling the combo, making the case. I got all the stats, all the quotes and I'm always fascinated too by just how much reverence there is for smart around the league. Everybody's got that line about, oh, all defense aren't sold. Richardson and Schroeder were really excited to come and play with this guy. And I was like, you know, I played against this guy, all these years. And now I get the chance to actually be alongside him. He was stopping me all those years now we're doing it together. So I do like how excited people get about smart the persona in the figure and Boston. Yep. Yep. So Bobby's got that Bobby's got so many places where he can view his agenda now. You've got no smarties. This has been coming up in the comment section. Speaking of what else Bobby has, you know what he's gonna know he has got going on? You got another damn growth spurt, right? Let me just say this. Bobby is still growing. I'm telling you. Obviously 6 ten now. He's like, Tatum. Where are the stools? We used to have stools. No, Bobby is ruining everything done. I used to be the tall guy back in the day. Jeez..
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"Com. I got my half ready if you guys need me. Go fire up that damn phone again, don't do it. We did it. The rockets. I won't do the music when I don't want to get a band again. The rockets have lost 13 straight games and they're not going to play wall. I come on. I know that's a gold ridiculous. Isn't growth. It isn't development. I mean, that's a guy that can help them in that sense. Tanking stinks. Aren't there some kind of rule against that shit? You're not supposed to give healthy guys. Don't run a lot of happen. But the whole thing was, I thought you can't just give healthy players nights off for the hell of it. Wasn't there? If you think if you have a mutual agreement, it's probably fine. It's not resting. They just sent them to NBA thing. I thought it was an MBA silver put it in place so like nationally televised games wouldn't get screwed because of guys are just resting for people. This is the right word. I don't even have a word for it. It's so ridiculous. This is when we're Bobby's speechless. When we've reached the John wall portion of the postgame show, we know it's time to wrap it up. So we are gonna wrap it up. I'll give everybody final thoughts. I'll give Jimmy an original thought. Go ahead. Oh Jimmy. Oh man. I'm good. Jimmy's first thought, 'cause he hasn't really gotten to declare, you know? You know, vacuum? Jimmy are they back? No, not quite. And I want this is Tatum back. Yeah, I think James Bond. I'm not worried about anything. That was what I wanted to talk about. Even get it thought. Is he back, Jimmy? I'm scared to start talking. I don't know if you're going to see something again. Yes, I think Tatum is back. I said this yesterday. Joe sway. Taylor's bad thing. Dave is back for sure. He's back to her. That's it for me. No, come on. What do you think, Jimmy? No, I really do think yesterday and tonight, although I didn't see I did watch a lot of the highlights after the fact. These are the types of performances that, as I said yesterday, you know is in Tatum. So I was never really concerned that oh and I said that yesterday. Oh, we put on too much muscle. Oh, he's injured, or he's thinking too much, or whatever. It was a shooting slump, and the players go through it, and I think he's on the other side of it now..
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"It's not gonna be hard. Well, I think it might be hard. You take him out and Marcus smart gets stuck doing old market smart stuff because now he's forced to do things that he's not as comfortable doing, then you've just screwed up two players. And then the premise of the whole conversation is, are you screwing up players by removing them from a situation in which they're thriving to put other people in there? That's where right. If you have a stretch of games where things are working well and you're like, okay, buy everybody. Then that's potentially bad. And that's why we talked about what do you do with grant? What do you do with Schroeder? Of course. You have to be comfortable moving Tatum to the four in some cases. If you wanted to go smarter, Brown, Tatum, and either Al rob doing that. But we also got to leave in there. We got to leave granted the struggle for me. Can't touch grant, you're right. I was like, don't forget the go forget the best trash player, you know? Yeah. He's the best trash player. Stop. So disrespectful. He's the best kid. He's the best kid. It's not even close to what I said, by the way. Bobby, what are you doing, buddy? You can't just leave like that. All right. Fantastic question. You just gotta jump. You gotta tell us, hey, guys, gotta go. No, like, boom, they put me right up. I was like Bobby, this is live television, Bobby. Don't you get it? No, I know why. I know why, obviously, 'cause earlier there's something happening. Another incident on the Zoom. Oh, there was another incident. I had to win the thing in my face. It wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't too bad but the win and then he said. But where are you coming from? Where were you walking? I was working in a garden. Self thinks PR threw it back to him at this point, that's a question. That's a good look. That's twists. I love just okay, so how did this one go? I got the question. The broadcast the entire show thus calling grant trash over the zoom. Jesus. Respectful. I was talking to shag Doja about all they heard all they heard was the best trash players aggressive player out there. Right in rain grants here. Wait, this question was for was for a thunder player? It was for granted. I'm writing about Al. I want to see what those guys got from Al and just the experience of being around them and stuff like that. Because they loved them there..
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"Of rhythm, you know? He's not gonna get better as a shooter sitting on the bench. Coming in cold, every couple minutes a game. And Jimmy, we can go up there, do a live show. We'll have. No, I was just about to say that. So Jimmy, let's go. Dude, we'll take the train up. We'll make a weekend out of it. Portland's a great drive because, you know, yeah, you know what happens when that happens? No. We'll take the train up. All the gear on in the tree. We get comfortable dude. I'm very comfortable. I got my lights on. Really? He's into it. Yeah. I got my lights on. I'm comfy. I'm here for the night, boys. I want prichard. I want Pritchard and niece Smith to both go to the G league and light it up for like, you know. I'll put the hat on and go up. Too. Yeah. So what do we got after this? We've got what's Monday's game? Another cupcake. Another Brooklyn, so we like this right now. Wait, what's going on? You guys okay? I don't know, man. So what do we think? I hate doing the are we worried about rob thing? I'm just really annoyed right now, so I don't even want to talk about it. Are we annoyed about rob? A pretty annoyed. Okay. We'll be start there. I'm pretty annoyed. I'm just pretty annoyed about it being another thing that's not serious, but yet costs in multiple games. This is again why he said he wants to play 60 games 'cause every time he gets hurt he misses four games. I was just gonna say that. We were laughing at that reaching for the stars. We're like, oh yeah, my goal is to pay like 60 K and she's like, really dude, that's like where you want to go. That's where you're reaching for here and he's right on track for that, so. Yeah. He knows his body better than anybody. He knows when he's gonna get hurt before he gets hurt. He knows 25 minutes a game is different. It's a different kind of life,.
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"And that's exactly what's happening now. And it's ironic because what was 25 in a row is first shot. He couldn't make a three to save his life. And then finally he makes one and then if you cut off from when he made one to fast forward, he's not a terrible shooter, especially for a big. Yeah. He projected as a decent shooter at a school. We were surprised in that he started over 25 like he did. And the release is good. Doesn't he a ton of time to get it off. It's pretty pretty fluid. And no. Actually, that's two things. Both grant and Romeo, they're releases this year, so much quicker than before. So they are able to get those shows. And when we are laughing at them for not going to summer league, I guess he was right. He was below him. He would have been putting up 30 in ten. Yeah. Yeah. Oh no. Usually the fourth, the fourth year, summer league is balled out. By 30. Yeah. It's kind of a asking what he would average. Yeah. It's kind of a shit assignment to be the summer league guy. You really don't want to draw that. You really don't want to draw that straw. Oh my God. I'm worried about that. Oh no. Hold on. Hold on Jimmy. Is this a drunk dial? What are we doing here? I guess not. Welcome to the show, everybody. Sponsors help watching right now. Watching the one. I want to come on and say, raph the bat, I didn't see second in this game, but I did get home soon enough to jump on this show, so I figured why not? And I will also have anything to be feeling good today. No, no, no. I will also add that I was listening to you guys on my way home. So I do have an idea of what you guys are talking about, Al Horford, first or second team all defense, all that stuff, Marcus smart, all that stuff. So I'm good. I'm very afraid. What's going to happen? No, I'm actually completely fine. I actually, I was unfortunately stood up far away. I was far away, so I was driving. I was driving tonight, so nothing to worry about. Yeah. I'm coming in as a good boy. Coming in as a good boy. I'm leaving a bad boy. Coming in a good boy. It is, it is. It is a homeschool night, so Jimmy's gotta take it easy. Home school. Midterms are coming.
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"Nature scenes, rain, you know, Jimmy loves his Ariana Grande. Music stories, all of that stuff. He will be playing right now. He wouldn't play something by now. Unlock content. He's like, wait a second, guys. Hey, I've got it. You know? Yep. Jimmy's got it. He does. Jimmy there's better be a cover link. Do you guys have calm dot com? Anyway, go ahead, Bobby. Do you guys want to guess where the Celtics are in offense since ground went down, Schroeder entered the starting line? I think they're like 12. Yeah, I knew they were right around that kind of ten 1112 ranch. And the defense has been top 5, right? Yeah. So you're looking at a more balanced team and there's a lot going on with what was happening before. It was one O four before and they were 20th in the league. Now it's one ten, they're 11th. They played some great defense early in the year, but get anything going offensively. But you speak about the sample size from before, John, from when schroder was coming off the bench and you had some guys healthy, that's true. I don't think there's enough to say shorter can't come off the bench and succeed, even though he's shooting 38% off the bench. But I do think you have a good enough sample size now of this starting lineup. You know, Schroeder's smart, all these guys, to say, let's just keep rolling this. We have a good thing. This is what Brad would do, right? You find something, you roll with it. You experiment a little bit. You don't revert to what's going on before. Unless it's tasty Thompson. But I don't know. I just feel like there's going to be some consequences to getting away from Chinese networks and going back to you never wanted double big John. He never did. You don't have to sell me on it. I don't love the concept of it. I mean, it's not really double big as much as I like the positionless multi wing sort of offense with a true. My perfect offense would be a big that can protect the rim a little bit, but provide some sort of floor spacing, problem is rob doesn't really provide the floor spacing. A true point guard and I love that triple wing lineup..
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"There's a lot of defense there, but just the isolate those two minutes together. It's not outstanding. What you're getting from smart and Schroeder together, I think right now is better than what you're getting from porphyrin and rob in a vacuum. And it's about the minutes to some degree because when shorter was coming off the bench, he was playing less with smart. But at the same time, it's about the combinations. And you're seeing that shorter and smart. This is a real value to that combination just in how they play off each other. Do orphan and rob really like maybe on defense, play off each other, but offensively, there's not much going on there between those two. Well, I think part of it is that they need to they give you different skill sets when they're out there. I mean, rob has to be a rim runner in order to be impactful and all gives you the ability to space the floor with his three point shooting. So it's a little bit different when you talk about Marcus and Schroeder. Because basically, you want them to do the same thing, attack attack attack, driving kick. So it's a little bit different. I think it's more apples and oranges if you try to compare what rob and Aldo would Schroeder and Marcus to win her out there together. All right guys, quick pause we want to tell you about one of our sponsors and that is insa where welcoming back incest. Yeah, exactly. It's one of Massachusetts premiere cannabis dispensaries inside. Their founders, patent Pete. They re-engineered the cannabis model from what they sell to how they sell it. Incident dispensaries are inviting their modern, the staff or authorities on the science that go in there, they can answer any question, difference between flowers, concentrates, what you want to take for insomnia anxiety, edibles. Hanging out with friends, whatever you want, or tell you exactly what you need to fill your needs, world class head chef there as well..
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"And you know, I know you factor on the percentage John, but there's never going to be a time when anyone covers grant. So you might as well just an assumption. NBA average on open threes, I think is like 37% or something around that. Grant is hovering and above that at this point. So he's giving you plus closer to 40, right? Yeah. Plus, plus, you know, plus, you know, production out of his opportunities, which is way better than what we saw last year, which was a fairly borderline unplayable guy who was playing substantial minutes and just really couldn't find his footing at all last year. This is important, but you got to fill in Sharon at some point about the Herman Herman. It's there forever. It's from last night. Some guy put in a typo calling hernan Gomez two names Herman Herman. Now forever he's Herman. That's the first thing I saw but Herman Herman Gomez film. Everybody. Everybody's on it tonight. AKA shot shucker. My goodness. Oh my God. Herman letters. He's been weighing, you know? You get in there, why not? No Herman was watching the show. He was like, what? Just with these two threes? No, I'm a shoot three. Herman let it rip. He went in. He said, this is my time. Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. I get to play. I make two threes. It's done. I'm in the rotation. Let's go. My goodness, yeah, Herman. What was the final line on him? Over 5 fourths of over 5 four threes and 6 minutes. He free was freaking launching it. All game. You know what it is? He's watching grant. The way he stretches the floor is like, I can do the same thing, guys, I'm telling you I can do it. Definitely. 6 minutes. Damn. The entire bench. You know how many. First of all, Herman, Herman attempted more shots than anybody coming off the bench tonight..
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"You've got problems here because you've got to start making decisions. You like the Schroeder, smart combination, you don't want to break it up when Jalen comes back. That's a problem. You got to decide, okay, are we going to go small? And if that's the case, are we going to have one big out there? And is that big going to be L or rub when he's helping? The other possibility to consider is if you do send one of those guards to the bench and you want to stay too big and grant is working in that lineup, do you consider leaving grant in that lineup and moving someone else to the bench and thus creating more bench depth? Because the problem is, I know charade. The problem is this. If a guy, if a guy has value, that's like he lost me there, right? If a guy has value somewhere and you remove him from that, and then his value drops to zero on the second unit. How many of those guys in that bet in that second unit? Like I said, I keep going back to that freaking lineup against was it the bulls? No. But now, one of the 19 point I keep going back to the cloud. The grant prichard Romeo nee Smith lined up that they tried fit in the first quarter and a really short handed game. And then it burned them in the third quarter. You can't have those guys out there on the floor together. It like negates all of their skills at the same time. So when you're talking about a mix and match universe, if you take grant out of the starting lineup, and he goes back to being the old grant, you've lost the asset, right? So you have to start thinking about like, where does it work best for you? This is working under these premises, though, right? This is working because rob is out. I think that's worst case scenario. You see? It's because rob is hurt. Yeah, it's bad. Yeah, but. You're not injecting granted William. I don't think that's I feel good about keeping grant in case of an emergency. We're gonna crack this open. Like the idea of Ashley consciously trying to cram him with that first group. If I got her help, I already so why can't you do it? When I first said it, I said, cram Romeo in there or someone like that to get together. But I'm saying to get more out of them or if nee Smith was a little bit more confident to get a shooter on the floor. And that was during the stretch when things weren't working. So all I'm saying is combinations you never know which one is going to work. There are teams that play lesser guys with their starting unit because they fit what that starting unit needs in that moment. And then the bench is that much stronger. So I'm not saying play grant by any means. All I'm speaking with is saying leave your options open, you know? I guess I feel like I feel like what you're saying has strong like first round playoff series vibes, right? Maybe you're down O two, and you know, you need to switch things up in the lineup. You like Joe green into the star lineup? Like throwing Joe green into his start lineup. Exactly. Right. You pulling out all the stops, like, you know, you're down in the series and you don't like you don't like the way this is going. Desperation. That's something you do again. If your big guy's heard, like, rob, you gave him that contract. We know even beforehand that he should have been sorry in the last season..
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"Back to backs we're doing it. Celtics are doing it. They're winning? Beating. Got a little close. Doesn't matter. We're not going to walk away. It was so bad. The signature play of the walk of shame was definitely nee Smith freaking out at half court, like getting the ball taken from him. So bad. You know what? All the stars look at the headline. They didn't even need a walk of shame, but they did it just to make a point. It was ten seconds on. They were like, get over here. You know? They were like, Erin, we know you're not a rookie, but you're carrying everyone's stuff next road trip, right? I don't care. I guess. To me for project Thomas. That was terrific. I feel bad. I feel bad. Sharon Sharon sat that one out. He was in the media room already was over. I thought this thing was over. He was ready to go. Yeah. I love basketball. I never get down on a game a chance to go to the garden. But this was a slog. Oh my gosh, I'm very tough to watch. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on hold on. Let's put things into perspective, because I'm sure he's seen play games like this. Why was it so bad though? I think if you're the Celtics you know what it was, you feel good about it, right? Well here's why this game was bad. First, you had the emotional low of coming off the Lakers game. The energy just wasn't there in a bit. Oh, that's hello thing. Dad. And it's really bad because the Celtics, they did exactly what we've been bitching and moaning about them to do so much. Well, Marcus smart has been pitching him on his past. They're ballroom. It was great. I remember on the first 28 made shots they had like 20 assists at that point. And so they did a lot of the things that we want to see them do. But this game was just, I mean, it was just flat line, pretty much most of the game. I mean, they just basically, this was like a necessary evil. This is like paying your taxes. You got to do it, get it done with cut to check and get the hell out of town. But that's probably why you feel good about it, John, right? But for multiple reasons, one, it's not you win games where you're like, okay, that sucked, and you know, like, we've seen a million of these, where you decide, you only play like 12 out of 48 minutes and it's enough, you know? And you have those games and it's like, all right, at least they showed up and you give their hat off to them. I actually thought they played pretty well on a back to back again without two starters, but it's not just that. It was the style. That was the key to me again. Last night, last night, the massive takeaway was the points in the paint. The 56 points in the paint was huge. Tonight, it was the assist numbers. 28 assists on 30 something made baskets. And they did that start to finish. It wasn't one of those we pass it early and then we fall back into our old tendencies. They started that way. I think it was 14 of the first 17 or something like that. And they stayed that way. So it was and it was not just one pass, it wasn't one of those assist games where it's one pass and a guy makes a three..
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"And and how they're going to the work on his body to try and get every ounce of athleticism possible out of him but yeah man i mean. What did you think when when the pick happen where you out with him coming into the year. No yeah i was really high on him as well I'm said it would take this sucker for like those guys who like pass the ball. You know. I'm not the most athletic dudes so i love it when they're unathletic guys. Who are like really playing well I think i had him seventh in. I want say two days prior. I bumped him down to nine. And i think that just solely because okay did such a good job with the smokescreens up to trade. 'em not traded a draft night I was convinced we were picking book night. Like one hundred percent sold on it. And i think my i was happy when we got him. I think it was a exact like it showed. Exactly what okay. Sees approaches to this rebuild. In how they wanna form a team For years everyone knows same prestige He interned for the spurs work for them. He's always admired their style of play In you can you know when you can admire that. Pony f- kevin durant and russell westbrook. It doesn't matter like you're gonna go for you can do with those guys won't in that type style.
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"He's not the same player he was. You could tell obviously utah has rudy gobert download so his finishing is going to be affected by that but just even just the way he got up. You could tell But in terms of his development especially for the guards. 'cause i think that's been the biggest thing for me like even to last year. Was you just had to add competent big to the roster to really help like with pick and roll development. 'cause that's i think the biggest thing for shea right now. His interior passing is a step or two behind. It's not his fault. There just hasn't been a real big for him. Ever develop that with in terms of on ball production so overall i like derrick favors. I do think it sucks that. Like if you planned on buying him out anyways probably should have done it in just not cut someone During training camp. But i don't see a scenario where they have to. They attach a pick to get rid of him. This is a guy who has two years nine mil per year. I'm pretty sure left on his contract so it's not a incredibly big contract but it's just one of those things that i think. Eventually they probably by out. I know there's. I've seen some people like the cap guys talk about. How oh case. He still has potential to make like a mac slot for like a salary. Dump move but i think favors is just like we talked about al horford last year in george hill like. That's a vet on the team that they're willing to you know maybe. Try to build up their value against solely because of their good character guy. They're gonna be good for the locker room. I do think a golic chambers is important for that type of stuff too just because as you said the thing with the veteran presence going back to it is how is this team gonna feel in january when they've won four or five games you know like while fully has like everything from interview questions has answered. He fully understands knows what division is in. I'm guessing the same. These young guys but josh giddy said on a live how he. He plans on making the playoffs this year. And it's like you know like it's it's one of those things especially when you're young like losses can take a toll And it'll be easier than last year last year. You're getting beat down by fifty to the pacers and empty arena. Unlike a chilly march day. It's just scenarios..
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"Agree. I think in terms of the veteran thing. I think it's a difficult thing. Just because i think the biggest whenever you have vets it's all to make things on the court easier you know. Teach your young guys but also culture wise. And i think okay she has the culture thing down perfectly right now especially with An mike moscow alike. I think those are the two vets. I mean mike. Here's mike a guy who started crying in his exit interview last year just because of how he talking about how much okay cement to him and like the team in the organization and you can really tell that the organ especially coach mark is like ken rich has like the the vet disciplinary like role on the team mike last year during an exit interview mark. I forgot what the question was like. He was like yeah. Kenny will like grab you by your shirt unlike. Knock some simpson to you and you can tell by the way the guys talk about kenneth williams in like they really respect him night Anyone could in respect him if you just heard his story I think my biggest like worry is not having a true defensive. A that on the team to like really teach guys That's all i've always been big on. Just signing andre roberson to a minimum like obviously andre roberson. So i'm going to bring any value to your team actual performance wise. But i remember ludovic interns. Ferguson would talk about it during the twenty twenty year. How he was the smartest defender they've just ever talked to even I wou i am slightly concerned about no vet guard on the team. But i do think just having what six months or three through six months george hill and a whole year. Cpi would shea is was really good in They have eric maynor now as an assistant who played for the thunder for years So for all. I think like the vet role can sometimes be slightly played out but i also think a lot of people may not realize how much of a role like kenneth williams mike scholar really hats like micro. Scholar came out of nowhere. In terms of this is a guy they just signed to a two year deal Didn't think there would really be a spot to like half imp like he can go help contenders in he wanted to stay in oklahoma city. A team that we all know isn't winning anytime soon and is perfectly fine with. Dnp's unlike a minimum contract which to me is just mind boggling because he could really help contenders out there yet no. He was yoursel last year when he played the the first light. Thirtyish game he was good i think it was like the finally. The guy that the lakers hope trading for But no like is like one of the best years was real last year which is a while to think about..
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Tom Brady casually tosses Lombardi Trophy as Buccaneers celebrate Super Bowl win
"Tom brady clearly isn't afraid to have a good time celebrating his seven super bowl win. During the buccaneers prayed. Enough to toss the lombardi trophy from his boat across to another that had rob gronkowski and camera grade on it thankfully. The trophy was caught by great. Who called it. The best catch of his
Glenn Beck
Oklahoma City Police say they're searching for a deadly shooting suspect in northwestern OKC.
"Store in your northwest, 10th and western Oklahoma City Police sergeant Jeff Dutton told news for that officers responded to shots being fired. They found a woman dead in the parking lot. The only suspect description that we have right now is a black SUV. We do not have any other suspect description or any leads. At this time. People living nearby say they heard about 20 gunshots. As of yet, the victim's name has not been released. A statue of the late billionaire
The NBA Show
Brooklyn Nets Hire Steve Nash As Head Coach
"We are here. On the heels of a big announcement. Yeah. Steve Nash Future Hall of Famer. Future Hall. Of famer is the coach new coach of the Brooklyn Nets. What's going on listen I? Think it's it's it's a good. It's a good pairing with him and Katie. You know as well as anybody that there was a pre existing relationship Steve was a player development consultant for Golden State. He spent a Lotta time with Kevin Durant is I would talk to him over the years about his experiences. In golden state like not just learning from Steve Kerr and those guys who specifically he was working within. Golden State and it always Katie was always you know like one of the names that he said a lot what I thought he'd be working with the guard so that relationship and then you sean marks played with him in Phoenix. So there's a real. There's a real respect there as well. So I think it made a lot of sense.
Sean Hannity
“This is a critical week,” Mayor Holt says increase in COVID-19 cases may cause Oklahoma City to rethink reopening plan
"A warning from Oklahoma City mayor David hold on the rising number of covert cases in the city here is Margo marrano Oklahoma City mayor David Holt says there's been a tsunami of Colbert nineteen cases among people ages eighteen to fifty and he says there's been a significant increase in the number of people hospitalized with cover nineteen we have never gotten close to overwhelming our health care system in OKC but that's right where we want to stay we are now in a zone where we need to pay very close attention each day to what is happening with hospitalizations he says young people are more likely than ever before to be carrying the virus and give it to more vulnerable people he says of the numbers don't go down hill have little choice but to roll back the city three
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Gaga raises $35M for virus fight, curates all-star TV event
"It's a celebrity TV special that is not asking for any money lady Gaga Paul McCartney Liz OKC must grades and John legend are among the acts will participate in the one world together at home special on multiple networks on April eighteenth lady Gaga says the advocacy organization global citizen already raised thirty five million dollars for the World Health Organization your corporate sponsors and philanthropists we celebrate and we highlight the the singular kind global community that is a rising right now marches are a little
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Schroder's late layup lifts Thunder over Celtics 105-104
"Dennis Schroder's late steal and go ahead layup with eight point five seconds left gave the thunder a one oh five one oh four win over the Celtics with OKC down to Schlueter came up with a steal of Kemba Walker with eleven seconds to play and charged in for an uncontested layup Jayson Tatum missed a potential game winning fadeaway on the other end with one point eight remaining Chris Paul had a game high twenty eight points intruder added twenty seven to help the thunder win their third straight Gordon Hayward had twenty four points as the Celtics suffered their fourth straight home loss given Coolbaugh Boston
Glenn Beck
Man found shot to death in NW OKC
"Moved a fatal shooting in Oklahoma City over the weekend it happened Saturday night in a parking lot near northwest twenty eight then may police tell us they responded to a shots fired call and found a man on the ground with a gunshot wound as of yet his identity has not been
AP News Radio
LeBron sets triple-double mark, Lakers hold off OKC 112-107
"Anthony Davis and lebron James put up big numbers as the Lakers beat the thunder one twelve one oh seven for their fifth straight win James scored twenty five points with eleven rebounds and ten assists becoming the first player in NBA history to record a triple double against every team in the league Davis added thirty four points LA sits atop the NBA standings with a twelve in to record Dennis Schroder scored thirty one to lead Oklahoma City mark Myers Los Angeles
This Morning With Gordon Deal
Barry, Louisiana And OKC discussed on This Morning With Gordon Deal
"Tropical storm Barry threatens the coast of Louisiana will have a live update in just a moment the Dow closed above twenty seven thousand for the first time sports OKC reportedly trading Russell Westbrook to Houston men's tennis semis at Wimbledon this morning and classmates celebrated a graduating student who sensitive to cheering crowds that story in about twenty minutes the weather forecast for the coast of Louisiana dangerous storm surge heavy rains wind conditions the national hurricane center says tropical storm Barry could strengthen into a hurricane by tonight or early tomorrow let's get a feel for the mood ahead of the storm from Dave Cullen news director at W. W. L. in New Orleans one of our affiliates for this program he's with us live this morning Dave give us a feel of what's happening right now well we're we're seeing gusty winds blowing Kerr I'm watching the trees waving in the wind and street signs swaying back and forth as with the occasional gusts about thirty close to forty miles an hour and these first of the band's kind of push on through the good news for us right now is the tropical storm very remain somewhat disorganized in the Gulf of Mexico and the heaviest of the rain isn't wrapping all the way around the center yet but the national hurricane center is expecting that to happen expecting berry whose top sustained winds are now fifty miles an hour with higher gusts to continue to get better organized strength and they come ashore in less than twenty four hours the real threat they say from this is extremely heavy rain with widespread areas of Louisiana and Mississippi getting fifteen to twenty inches according to the hurricane center and summer is getting up to twenty five inches of rain that's insane how does this compare to do more or less problems in twenty sixteen you know we haven't had a major hurricane thank goodness it a long time you know a lot of people are calling us from around the world across the country thank how does this compare to Katrina obviously could train a was a major hurricane that included a massive wall of water water an incredible storm surge and levy busting capabilities that flooded eighty percent of the wireless this is no where near anything like that this is a threat that we face of heavy rain the problem with that for the Louisiana coast and specifically for New Orleans is that New Orleans is below sea level a bowl surrounded by levees and it takes a pump to get any water out of the city after rain fall if we get twenty five inches of rain the world is going to be looking at wide spread to stain street flooding for several days we had eight inches of rain on Wednesday and that flooded streets for five or six hours and stock cars homes and businesses going
After Hours With Amy Lawrence
Russell Westbrook, Paul Georgette And OKC discussed on After Hours With Amy Lawrence
"Russell Westbrook is reportedly open to following Paul Georgette of OKC Westbrook has only played for the thunder his eleven seasons yes for years and one hundred seventy million dollars left on his contract there apparently is mutual interest with the heat meanwhile OKC has let Mike muscala at Alec Burks re think the free agent deals they agreed to last week because of all of this the scale is staying but Burke's expected to sign with the warriors I mean sure
Pro Football Talk with Mike Florio
Nets' Kevin Durant changing his jersey number from No. 35 to No. 7
"There's never been on season I can recall where you really don't know who's going to be a champion to reading you have a feel for it I mean Golden State has been the favorite for the last four five years and the obviously they're I mean they're still higher up than you probably would have expected them to be because they're Golden State and maybe because of staff curry but I don't see gold they win a championship especially with Klay Thompson not plane next season and broke without a championship team because governor is not gonna play next season so it's kind of a weird situation there as we wait for Duran who by the way is changing his number you see that is always one thirty five or thirty five I think it Texas I'm not I'm not sure a hundred percent sure that it definitely in the NBA with OKC with Golden State and he's looking at it lebron did this when he went to Miami right he went from twenty three to six was colonel and now he's gone back to six because he wants to give twenty three they have the Davis by kind of like the feeling like I'm starting a new chapter when a deal with a new number yeah the rant was thirty five even at Texas yeah how so I really this seven number seven yes with the nets I have no idea what the no significance there yeah I resemble Levin hi res wearing a Levin yes he was number two with the way he's always wore number two right while he's gonna be eleven in Brooklyn I don't know I'm thinking of coal why no no chi re is as he's always been a you get these first names mixed up I got my call why and Mike hi res mixed up no Kylie's always wanna let all right that's good to know buy sell your Jersey I went on them that's website to see right can you buy the jerseys already you can't I mean course you get the custom Jersey but I didn't see a Durant or a calorie Jersey on
The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Milwaukee Bucks center Thon Maker in brawl during FIBA qualifying game
"For the world cup tournaments download presented by pepsi brazil defeated mexico by score of to kneel scoreless at the half but neymar scored in the fiftieth minutes insisted on a late goal by robert for me know at the end of the match ville brazil advances the row cup quarterfinals and we'll face the winner of belgium and japan which is happening right now on fox riphil looked like the better team when you watched it they look like the superior t mexico had some opportunities early but after half brazil is better club yeah and they cannot get out of the round of sixteen for eight world cups now it's been that fifth game against them massey's out rinaldo those out germany's out but i gotta tell you something i have the goal keeping yesterday i watched croatia denmark is one of the most amazing sports moments i've seen this year the quality of the play has been unbelievable you going for even for england but can anyone stop brazil brazil has enough potential dysfunction that england could listen i'm rooting for england i'm sixty one percent british all right well let's joel embiid have to continue the process in philadelphia you love that nickname he's to do without the services of lebron surely after the announcement that lebron had signs the lakers and bdo he's very big on social media took instagram suppose picture of himself shooting jumper over the celtics caption mood hashtag the process of course the mood is something lebron is love to put on his social media also hashtag strive for greatness sorts nine official lebron's tweet however mb did put out the sweet saturday night try and maybe convinced lebron not to go to la the lakers are forever going to be koby and magic's team process that's no i think they'll be lebron's team i think they listen i drive into work this morning it's now lebron's team they were there were billboards before lebron even got here but i do think it's going to be if you're a lakers fan it's going to be an exciting thing to see magic koby and lebron collaborate on and games are going to be i mean he thought lakers games were show before forget it finally milwaukee bucks center thon maker was one of thirteen players acted for fighting a massive brawl broke out between the philippines and australia during the fiba world cup asian qualifiers in the philippines shelia was leading seven eight with over four minutes let third quarter and someone out someone and then this melee broke out and knees and fists and oh yeah let's it goes into the call during this may that screen to the light time back the otherwise toll happening now oh and this is wild paying out of control in the philippines punches cakes fans the benches plead you kidding me what is out of control brutal i've never seen anything like that i mean not is brewed as where's the mouse pows right that is little god yes that is always we're fans involved there seems to be it seems like everyone's involved there's there's a chair being thrown for just having a chair thrown out you that guy reacted very well i don't think i would have gone to say i've never seen anything like this should the nba get involved in in this plaining thon for being involved in that i have never seen anything like that i don't know if i don't think they have jurisdiction to do that that that is outrageous got it is it's a it's a wwe event except scarier it got out of control really quickly i just can't i i don't know basketball fights are usually just kind of like a four hundred four head you know chatty chatty match that was that got out of control all right joy the news well that's the news thanks for stopping by heard lie sub chris bruce art comes on just to he does this by the way and i.
Speak For Yourself with Cowherd & Whitlock
Dallas Cowboys' Jason Witten will be remembered as all-time tough guy
"We'll see what she would have time for last call and what has become a tradition to start every nfl drab the ceremonial booing of commissioner roger goodell this year the commission came out flanked by several hometown he wrote cowboys but even that wasn't enough to keep the dallas crowds from boeing him seth is this a big deal roger goodell getting booed i don't think so i think it's just really kind of become you know a draft ritual you started started one year the next thing you know every single year it happens in philadelphia last year it happened he kinda just smiles about it and goes along with it but i i don't see it as a big deal it used to happen to david stern to in the nba i think it was in two thousand thirteen stern crack some joke about how that's actually it's a sign of affection the booze and so i don't think it's a big deal and i kind of expected it in dallas but hearing all those boos with troy aikman jason witten and roger starbuck on the stays that kinda shocked me all right another big story in dallas today tiny and jason witten reportedly told cowboys owner jerry jones that he will retire after fifteen season with the team presumably to join espn's monday night football broadcast crew that prescott reacted to the news by saying quote i'm just as surprised as everyone arse of no dez bryant and now possibly know jason witten should deck prescott be concerned change comes fast i don't think so i think that it's time jason wouldn't have been playing for fifteen years he's eleven time pro bowl and at the end of the day he's not what he used to be i mean as a as a security blanket he's not what it used to listen as a defender you know what he's going to run he's gonna run an enron out route and an seem road.
PTI
Why the Washington Capitals need a win against the Pittsburgh Penguins
"Best players in the nba and he is crowded by coaching staff has no idea what to do everything i think but when i say it i lose next to us up which pass catcher would be the bigger loss rob gronkowski or julio joan okay so gronkowski is vaguely hinting at retirement but julio jones has deleted all atlanta falcons pictures from his instagram account which strikes me as being serious julio jones that lessens the falcons of he leaves but in the last five years he has produced twenty five touchdowns for them gronkowski has produced thirty eight touchdowns so to me the answer is who gets hurt the most tom brady gets hurt the most in this gronk is the better player he's a historic player but i feel like bill belichick makes nice summer salads out of the refuse that he collects and you think they can overcome gronkowski i think they can do a better job on a relative basis overcoming gronkowski vulcans can overcome the loss even though the falcons run the ball better than the patriots even though all of those things are true and by the way the julio jones thing like i don't know if he's deliberately sending a signal but that's what you do when you break up with girlfriend like this may all be petty social media stuff but it also feels extremely real that's a problem next toss up what would be the better story penguins winning or the capitals winning the better story is the capital winning the capitals history is dotted with losing to the penguins they've lost to them nine out of ten playoff series if they if they're going to win the stanley cup the poetry would be to go through pittsburgh pittsburgh has five stanley cups in each one they have beaten the washington capitals so the better stories the capitals winning so you like poetry i like mythology you know the story of sisyphus do rolling the rock up the hill after three years cest is not succeed in his task the entire point is that it is.
NBA -- James Harden, Chris Paul push Rockets to 16th straight win
"Leave worry behind when liberty stands video of liberty mutual insurance rockets at it's well nothing run in the second quarter and also on top of the twelve nothing run it became a twenty four to six run third quarter more houston outscored the thunder by 4 fast bowler to the fourth quarter moon jae slings it to the left corner 3 out of the left corner assault continues for houston here in okc although three eighty four six minutes to go okay that was the last field goal made by the houston rockets in this game six minutes ago you heard casting games over nineteen straight points from the free throw line the game 4 guy half hour to play names final james harden waving over to the oklahoma city houston rockets but it sixteen straight wins dominating here in oklahoma city once wanting to sell one twelve eight fifty women season for houston that's the bottle call one 221 twelve james harden three chris paul twenty five seven different rockets go in double figures no one had more than twenty five it's called balance scoring every one a threat of the year russell westbrook thirty two points carmelo anthony had 23 but he on line four in the second half off knacks than the nba tonight post game show a win was a win sixteen straight for the rockets now for the thunder what did they learn tonight we explore that up next this is the nba audience bitter radio hey guys ensure go you know we hear a lot these days about fake news but when it comes to mind dating the real problem is fake views fake people with fake profiles trying to fake you out if you're looking for real connection it's time to get real with it's just launch i can be totally real about this because i use it myself and i can tell you first hand that erica and they're matchmakers are darn.
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4 Takeaways from Warren Buffett's Annual Letter
"Well what were you doing before he came to the fore missile had a big becker and all of logic what we call commercial management in australia kind of management accounting mates decisionmaking mate cells and finance and marketing and all that good stuff so the great thing about is able to wet warren buffett a little bit lighter but he's law ended up being a bit of business and because an investor and vice versa that's exactly my journey so i kinda what inside is trying to get the best out of them seeing what works will doesn't get to go the other side of the screen and say hi now i get to look at businesses and say other doing it well the doing it badly nets khan to the story yeah that's wonderful said we we actually well i guess i should say what's that braille and then you're gonna say warren buffett shareholder ladder and then i'm going to be like hey that's interesting well would an australian man care about warren buffett and then you and say well i've actually been to the shareholders meeting and i care a lot okc we just go ahead and do that or yeah well sir sure what's up well there's this guy omaha who writes a letter and yet so warren buffett's annual letter highly anticipated every year came out toward the end of february and it's many pages long would i came away with four takeaways that are sort of financial planning investing related and i'm sure scott you have some thoughts but i'll start with number one that is the wind is that investors backs in for two reasons the opening paragraph a letter has been basically following the same format for thirty years just the numbers change and so it begins this year with berkshire's gain in net worth during two thousand seventeen was sixty five point three billion however in the next paragraph he points out that only thirty six billion of that came from operations the other twenty nine billion just came because the new tax law and so alive investors have been thinking like how are is the nate newton change the tax law which among other things lowered the tax rates for corporations how is that going to infect my effect my investments.